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moquistogra pointed me to one of the ltsp.*standalone packages to use as an example.12:52
moquistI can't work on this right this very minute, BTW.12:52
moquistLaserJock: OK, and then somehow I probably have to tell dpkg-buildpackage which package source I'm building. Or something.12:53
moquistOr I have to tell pbuilder which binary package to build from the source package...this seems more likely.12:53
LaserJocknope12:54
LaserJockit'll build all the .debs from one pbuilder run12:54
moquistOh - if I add another stanza in debian/control, I'll probably get another .dsc out of dpkg-buildpackage -S.12:54
LaserJocknope12:54
moquistOh.12:55
LaserJockthe source package is the same12:55
=== moquist should just try it and find out. :)
LaserJockit's just that when you build the source package, via pbuilder or whatever, you'll get 2 .debs instead of 112:55
=== moquist nods
moquistthis sounds easy, then.12:55
moquistLast night my projector bulb burned out, so I don't have the possibility of watching a movie to distract me from stuff like this, tonight. :-)12:56
LaserJockheh12:56
LaserJockthe only thing will be to make sure that the file go to the right package12:56
LaserJockso you might have to do some small tweaking12:56
moquistI don't follow that.12:56
moquist"the file" ?12:56
moquistwhich file?12:56
LaserJocksorry, that should be files12:57
LaserJockyou might have to tell it that all the moodle stuff goes to the moodle package12:57
LaserJockand not to the moodle-standalone12:57
moquistAlso, I've rolled some other packages that I'm testing (as you know), and one user found that 'apt-get remove' left some of the package files around. Do I have to do anything special to remove files, the opposite of adding dh_install to the install: target in debian/rules?12:57
LaserJockmoquist: where were the files?12:58
moquistMy xterminator package installs this file: /etc/X11/Xsession.d/10-xterminator. But apt-get remove left that file in place.12:58
LaserJockah yeah12:58
LaserJockfiles in /etc/ are different12:58
LaserJockbecause they are configuration files12:59
moquist...and then all X logins failed, because the /usr/bin/xterminator line in that file couldn't execute properly. (I've since changed it to /usr/bin/xterminator || true ;)12:59
LaserJockdoing a --purge should remove that file12:59
moquistRight. Sounds good; sounds like addint || true was the right thing to do.12:59
LaserJockbut you can also tell dpkg that that file is not to be considered a conf file, I believe12:59
moquistI should look at other packages that drop files in Xsession.d to see what's right.01:00
moquistLaserJock: gotta run, thanks for your help01:00
LaserJockk01:00
sbalneavHey LaserJock01:14
LaserJockhi sbalneav01:19
sbalneavHey, you know a thing or two about CHEMISTRY, right?01:20
LaserJockwell, supposedly01:21
LaserJock;-)01:21
sbalneavBug #9503201:21
ubotuLaunchpad bug 95032 in rasmol "Rasmol displays incorrect distances" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9503201:21
sbalneavInteratomic distances shown by the Rasmol 'monitor' command are incorrect!01:21
sbalneavSo...01:21
LaserJockoh right, I've seen that bug01:21
sbalneavWanna help me sqwash a buuug01:21
LaserJockok, I've got his .pdb loaded01:23
LaserJocksbalneav: ok, I can't reproduce it on Feisty, I get the correct number01:26
sbalneavhmm01:30
sbalneavin gutsy, it crashes rasmol01:30
LaserJockhah01:30
LaserJockwe really should probably ditch rasmol01:31
sbalneavwait, I don't have the c1601:32
sbalneavI can't tell01:34
sbalneavI've got a whacky thing on the screen01:34
LaserJockheh01:35
LaserJocka long caterpillar looking thing?01:35
sbalneavlooks like it say 11252A01:35
sbalneavyeah01:35
sbalneavhydrocarbon chain?01:35
LaserJockyep01:36
LaserJockhexadecane I guess01:36
sbalneavSo if gasoline's like, 8 carbons long, this stuff's gotta be either axle grease, or plastic01:36
LaserJockhehe, something like that01:37
sbalneavhow can we tell if the numbers are right?01:37
LaserJockit should be about 1.54 angstroms01:39
sbalneavok, I thing this is saying 1.5201:39
LaserJockmy reading was 1.52 angstroms, which makes sense since it's not exactly ethane01:40
LaserJockit's got the other C-C bond on the other side01:40
LaserJockwhich should make it a tad smaller I should think01:40
sbalneavRight, right, yeah.  I picked up on that right away.  Absolutely.01:40
sbalneavI agree with your analysis :)01:40
LaserJockit's certainly not the 2.04 the guy reported01:41
sbalneavSo, what's the verdict?01:41
sbalneavBug = Close?01:41
LaserJockI'll do it01:43
sbalneavWhoohoo01:44
sbalneavbug #12437601:46
ubotuLaunchpad bug 124376 in atomix "package atomix-data 2.14.0-1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script killed by signal (Interrupt)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12437601:46
sbalneavI'm figuring that one was just a fluke01:46
sbalneavHow much you want to be he was running something like easyubuntu, and it killed the package manager, or something?01:47
sbalneav^be^bet01:47
LaserJocksbalneav: I decided to run a semi-empirical MOPAC7/PM3 geometry optimization calculation, just to check that C-C distance ;-)01:56
LaserJockgotta love linux01:57
sbalneavHey, can you still see me?02:00
LaserJockyeah02:04
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sbalneavCool, I'm signed on upstairs now, on the laptop02:16
sbalneavStill on downstairs too.02:16
sbalneavthis bip irc proxy is cool.02:16
sbalneavKids kicked me off.  I managed to get the old game "fallout" going under wine02:16
sbalneavso they wanted to play that.02:16
sbalneavWine's really something else.02:17
sbalneavIt's really quite amazing just how many programs do work under it.02:17
LaserJockyeah, unfortunately the couple apps for my wife I've tried didn't work02:17
LaserJockbut a guy at work asked me about games in Ubuntu02:18
LaserJockas I've got him converted02:18
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LaserJocksbalneav: hehe, my calculations gave 1.51 angstroms for the bond length02:19
LaserJockFree computational chemistry programs FTW!!02:20
sbalneavWell, with my detailed quantum-spectral analysis I did by putting A C16 molecule, Einsteins flashlight, and schrodingers cat in a box, and passing them through a slow Fourier analysis program I wrote (really, who needs the Fast Fourier, when clockspeeds are so high these days?) I cam out with 1.515 angstoms, so I'd say you came pretty close.  Good job!02:22
johnny_is there a nice way to get all the users in a group?02:24
johnny_closest thing i've found is getent02:24
johnny_or maybe somebody here already has a script for this kinda thing02:24
johnny_basically i'm trying to write a script to prep all the terminals every night02:24
johnny_like clearing their home directory, adding stuff, that kinda thing02:25
sbalneavGetent's the right way/02:25
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johnny_except you can't pick and chose the fields :)02:31
johnny_cut to the rescue i guess02:31
johnny_sbalneav, so, dnsmasq works great here now :)02:31
johnny_if anybody else is interested in using dnsmasq with ltsp, let me know02:31
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jkb973Hello all,,,03:01
jkb973Question about installing Edubuntu 7.04. Basically, works on some machines, not others. Is there anyplace I can get a list of compatibility issues?03:05
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sbalneavogra: You around there, dude?04:27
kgoetzsbalneav: hi mate04:28
sbalneavHello04:28
kgoetz:)04:29
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shriphaniright. I am fixing an appointment for a meeting with a computer teacher here.05:25
shriphaniBTW is there anyone from kerala here ?05:26
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dan_test08:04
dan_hello08:04
dan_radio check08:05
shriphaniradio check ?08:09
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