[12:52] <moquist> ogra pointed me to one of the ltsp.*standalone packages to use as an example.
[12:52] <moquist> I can't work on this right this very minute, BTW.
[12:53] <moquist> LaserJock: OK, and then somehow I probably have to tell dpkg-buildpackage which package source I'm building. Or something.
[12:53] <moquist> Or I have to tell pbuilder which binary package to build from the source package...this seems more likely.
[12:54] <LaserJock> nope
[12:54] <LaserJock> it'll build all the .debs from one pbuilder run
[12:54] <moquist> Oh - if I add another stanza in debian/control, I'll probably get another .dsc out of dpkg-buildpackage -S.
[12:54] <LaserJock> nope
[12:55] <moquist> Oh.
[12:55] <LaserJock> the source package is the same
[12:55] <LaserJock> it's just that when you build the source package, via pbuilder or whatever, you'll get 2 .debs instead of 1
[12:55] <moquist> this sounds easy, then.
[12:56] <moquist> Last night my projector bulb burned out, so I don't have the possibility of watching a movie to distract me from stuff like this, tonight. :-)
[12:56] <LaserJock> heh
[12:56] <LaserJock> the only thing will be to make sure that the file go to the right package
[12:56] <LaserJock> so you might have to do some small tweaking
[12:56] <moquist> I don't follow that.
[12:56] <moquist> "the file" ?
[12:56] <moquist> which file?
[12:57] <LaserJock> sorry, that should be files
[12:57] <LaserJock> you might have to tell it that all the moodle stuff goes to the moodle package
[12:57] <LaserJock> and not to the moodle-standalone
[12:57] <moquist> Also, I've rolled some other packages that I'm testing (as you know), and one user found that 'apt-get remove' left some of the package files around. Do I have to do anything special to remove files, the opposite of adding dh_install to the install: target in debian/rules?
[12:58] <LaserJock> moquist: where were the files?
[12:58] <moquist> My xterminator package installs this file: /etc/X11/Xsession.d/10-xterminator. But apt-get remove left that file in place.
[12:58] <LaserJock> ah yeah
[12:58] <LaserJock> files in /etc/ are different
[12:59] <LaserJock> because they are configuration files
[12:59] <moquist> ...and then all X logins failed, because the /usr/bin/xterminator line in that file couldn't execute properly. (I've since changed it to /usr/bin/xterminator || true ;)
[12:59] <LaserJock> doing a --purge should remove that file
[12:59] <moquist> Right. Sounds good; sounds like addint || true was the right thing to do.
[12:59] <LaserJock> but you can also tell dpkg that that file is not to be considered a conf file, I believe
[01:00] <moquist> I should look at other packages that drop files in Xsession.d to see what's right.
[01:00] <moquist> LaserJock: gotta run, thanks for your help
[01:00] <LaserJock> k
[01:14] <sbalneav> Hey LaserJock
[01:19] <LaserJock> hi sbalneav
[01:20] <sbalneav> Hey, you know a thing or two about CHEMISTRY, right?
[01:21] <LaserJock> well, supposedly
[01:21] <LaserJock> ;-)
[01:21] <sbalneav> Bug #95032
[01:21] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 95032 in rasmol "Rasmol displays incorrect distances" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/95032
[01:21] <sbalneav> Interatomic distances shown by the Rasmol 'monitor' command are incorrect!
[01:21] <sbalneav> So...
[01:21] <LaserJock> oh right, I've seen that bug
[01:21] <sbalneav> Wanna help me sqwash a buuug
[01:23] <LaserJock> ok, I've got his .pdb loaded
[01:26] <LaserJock> sbalneav: ok, I can't reproduce it on Feisty, I get the correct number
[01:30] <sbalneav> hmm
[01:30] <sbalneav> in gutsy, it crashes rasmol
[01:30] <LaserJock> hah
[01:31] <LaserJock> we really should probably ditch rasmol
[01:32] <sbalneav> wait, I don't have the c16
[01:34] <sbalneav> I can't tell
[01:34] <sbalneav> I've got a whacky thing on the screen
[01:35] <LaserJock> heh
[01:35] <LaserJock> a long caterpillar looking thing?
[01:35] <sbalneav> looks like it say 11252A
[01:35] <sbalneav> yeah
[01:35] <sbalneav> hydrocarbon chain?
[01:36] <LaserJock> yep
[01:36] <LaserJock> hexadecane I guess
[01:36] <sbalneav> So if gasoline's like, 8 carbons long, this stuff's gotta be either axle grease, or plastic
[01:37] <LaserJock> hehe, something like that
[01:37] <sbalneav> how can we tell if the numbers are right?
[01:39] <LaserJock> it should be about 1.54 angstroms
[01:39] <sbalneav> ok, I thing this is saying 1.52
[01:40] <LaserJock> my reading was 1.52 angstroms, which makes sense since it's not exactly ethane
[01:40] <LaserJock> it's got the other C-C bond on the other side
[01:40] <LaserJock> which should make it a tad smaller I should think
[01:40] <sbalneav> Right, right, yeah.  I picked up on that right away.  Absolutely.
[01:40] <sbalneav> I agree with your analysis :)
[01:41] <LaserJock> it's certainly not the 2.04 the guy reported
[01:41] <sbalneav> So, what's the verdict?
[01:41] <sbalneav> Bug = Close?
[01:43] <LaserJock> I'll do it
[01:44] <sbalneav> Whoohoo
[01:46] <sbalneav> bug #124376
[01:46] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 124376 in atomix "package atomix-data 2.14.0-1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script killed by signal (Interrupt)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/124376
[01:46] <sbalneav> I'm figuring that one was just a fluke
[01:47] <sbalneav> How much you want to be he was running something like easyubuntu, and it killed the package manager, or something?
[01:47] <sbalneav> ^be^bet
[01:56] <LaserJock> sbalneav: I decided to run a semi-empirical MOPAC7/PM3 geometry optimization calculation, just to check that C-C distance ;-)
[01:57] <LaserJock> gotta love linux
[02:00] <sbalneav> Hey, can you still see me?
[02:04] <LaserJock> yeah
[02:16] <sbalneav> Cool, I'm signed on upstairs now, on the laptop
[02:16] <sbalneav> Still on downstairs too.
[02:16] <sbalneav> this bip irc proxy is cool.
[02:16] <sbalneav> Kids kicked me off.  I managed to get the old game "fallout" going under wine
[02:16] <sbalneav> so they wanted to play that.
[02:17] <sbalneav> Wine's really something else.
[02:17] <sbalneav> It's really quite amazing just how many programs do work under it.
[02:17] <LaserJock> yeah, unfortunately the couple apps for my wife I've tried didn't work
[02:18] <LaserJock> but a guy at work asked me about games in Ubuntu
[02:18] <LaserJock> as I've got him converted
[02:19] <LaserJock> sbalneav: hehe, my calculations gave 1.51 angstroms for the bond length
[02:20] <LaserJock> Free computational chemistry programs FTW!!
[02:22] <sbalneav> Well, with my detailed quantum-spectral analysis I did by putting A C16 molecule, Einsteins flashlight, and schrodingers cat in a box, and passing them through a slow Fourier analysis program I wrote (really, who needs the Fast Fourier, when clockspeeds are so high these days?) I cam out with 1.515 angstoms, so I'd say you came pretty close.  Good job!
[02:24] <johnny_> is there a nice way to get all the users in a group?
[02:24] <johnny_> closest thing i've found is getent
[02:24] <johnny_> or maybe somebody here already has a script for this kinda thing
[02:24] <johnny_> basically i'm trying to write a script to prep all the terminals every night
[02:25] <johnny_> like clearing their home directory, adding stuff, that kinda thing
[02:25] <sbalneav> Getent's the right way/
[02:31] <johnny_> except you can't pick and chose the fields :)
[02:31] <johnny_> cut to the rescue i guess
[02:31] <johnny_> sbalneav, so, dnsmasq works great here now :)
[02:31] <johnny_> if anybody else is interested in using dnsmasq with ltsp, let me know
[03:01] <jkb973> Hello all,,,
[03:05] <jkb973> Question about installing Edubuntu 7.04. Basically, works on some machines, not others. Is there anyplace I can get a list of compatibility issues?
[04:27] <sbalneav> ogra: You around there, dude?
[04:28] <kgoetz> sbalneav: hi mate
[04:28] <sbalneav> Hello
[04:29] <kgoetz> :)
[05:25] <shriphani> right. I am fixing an appointment for a meeting with a computer teacher here.
[05:26] <shriphani> BTW is there anyone from kerala here ?
[08:04] <dan_> test
[08:04] <dan_> hello
[08:05] <dan_> radio check
[08:09] <shriphani> radio check ?