winbondmauri, i think u gonna have to buy a different webcam if u want to use it with linux12:38
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vltstdin: wanna see the whole file?12:39
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mauriwinbond: i hope it's will be enough, thanks12:39
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rdvonHello, I've tried mutliple programs to try and play radio streams but *NONE* of them work. I've tried songbird, amaroK, and rhythmbox. Nothing is working.12:40
RichardBHstdin: are you still here?12:40
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vltrdvon: Can you play sound from afile?12:40
vlta file*12:40
winbondmauri, pick one of the ones i gave you the link to , pick one which has 5 or 6 stars for quality12:40
stdinvlt: hmm, post the output of "ls -l /etc/rc2.d" to pastebin12:41
mauriwinbond: ok thanks again...12:41
stdinRichardBH: yep12:41
dndhell,im having problems with my wifi on my laptop12:41
rdvonvlt: Hmm.. No, But I thought songbird came with all the necessary codecs to play audio.. :\12:41
RichardBHstdin - after upgrading to KDE 3.5.7, i still dont have the 'edit' button for emoticon themes - can you confirm which kopete package you have installed?12:42
RichardBH!wifi | dnd12:42
ubotudnd: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:42
vltstdin: it's the same as in rc3, except for "Only in /etc/rc2.d: S10powernowd.early" and "Only in /etc/rc2.d: S99stop-readahead"12:42
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vltstdin: The problem is: It doesn't let me enter runlevel 2.12:43
rdvonvlt: what is the apt-get line to get all the necessary codecs?12:43
vltrdvon: Try an ordinary wav file please12:44
winbondso who got the kde4 beta2 running on gutsy?  or feisty12:44
vltrdvon: no mp312:44
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stdinRichardBH: ahh, I have 0.12.5, you have 0.12.4 (I'm on gutsy)12:44
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rdvonvlt: wav file isnt working.12:46
RichardBHstdin: if i go help>about kopete it says im on 0.12.512:46
stdinvlt: what happens when you boot in to recovery mode and do "telinit 2" (or just type "exit" ) ?12:46
RichardBHstdin: although i am on 7.04 (feisty?)12:47
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stdinRichardBH: may be a difference in the package12:47
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rdvonvlt: I neeeeeeeed help :)12:47
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RichardBHstdin: 4:3.5.7-0ubuntu1~feisty112:48
RichardBHpresumably you have ~gutsy112:48
vltstdin: I'll try ... Here's rc2.d: http://suez.musketa.de/rc2.ls12:48
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vltrdvon: What's the error msg?12:51
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Dave132the link in the top for the known feisty problems comes up with"The IP address of the host wiki.kubuntu.com does not match the one the certificate was issued to."is this a problem?12:54
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NickPrestaDave132, no. It should be fine. We can trust kubuntu.com :)12:57
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NickPrestahowever, in the future, if the certificate is issued to crackers.com/ and the website you're trying to visit is paypal.com, that could be a problem :P12:57
Dave132got ya12:58
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stdinhmm, that shouldn't actually be .com...12:58
RichardBHif i want to upgrade to gutsy, will following the ubuntu instructions work?12:58
Dave132uh  oh12:58
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winbondcan i move a virtual machine from vmware server to vmware workstation ?12:59
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vltstdin: Booting to single and running `telinit 2` => init: rcS-sulogin main process (4583) killed by TERM signal01:00
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stdinvlt: anything else happen?01:00
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:00
vltstdin: No, that's the problem. `telinit 3` works but not 2 ... weird01:01
hitmanWillyvlt iirc, runlevel 2 is what kubuntu starts default01:01
vltstdin: Even after the latest kernel update (31/8) and initrd rebuild ...01:01
kelsihi there.. i have a basic question about installing a program.. is there anyone here who has a minute or two to help me out?01:02
vlthitmanWilly: Yes, but it doesn't work from "single"  even.01:02
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hitmanWillyhmmm, that is weird01:02
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vlthitmanWilly: ... and the current runlevel is shown as "UNKNONW"01:02
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vltUNKNOWN even01:02
svedencan someone tell me how to mount a raid server share to my01:03
hitmanWillydoes the recovery mode even load inittab?01:03
vltsveden: It shouldN#t matter if it's rais01:03
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hitmanWillythe unknown runlevel makes me wonder...01:04
vlthitmanWilly: There's no inittab. This is f**** upstart01:04
svedenwell I hve a server in my house and I would like to know how to log into it01:04
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svedenI um <cough> know how to do it in windows but not kuduntu01:04
vltsveden: If we knew this it this would be pretty unsecure :)01:04
hitmanWillyvlt actually, yes there is an inittab, but there's nothing in it by default, my guess is that whatever process handles runlevels in upstart doesn't load in the recovery console01:05
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vlthitmanWilly: I wouldn't care if it only did in normal boot!01:06
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vltsveden: To be ...01:06
hitmanWillyvlt so telinit cmds don't work even in normal mode?01:06
sezkyim trying to install kdm theme manager and when i run configure i get compiler c cannot create executables01:06
sezkyany ideas?01:06
hitmanWillysezky install build-essential01:07
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vlthitmanWilly: `telinit 3` works, `telinit 2` not01:07
DudeiclesScorpKing: ok this HD should work fine. lol01:07
sezkyi tried that01:07
stdinsezky: why are you compiling it?01:07
sezkyi found that command on a forum01:07
Dudeiclesthis one is only 40 gig though01:07
hitmanWillyvlt well, since you're already in runlevel 2 on a normal boot, that's probably why01:07
ScorpKingDudeicles: sweet01:07
sezkyso i can install it right?01:07
DudeiclesScorpKing: Should I do the same formatting?01:07
winbondsezky, isnt there a theme manager installed by default?01:08
stdin!info kdmtheme | sezky01:08
Dudeicles5 for root, 34 for /home and 1 for swap?01:08
ubotusezky: kdmtheme: theme manager for KDM. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.2-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 103 kB, installed size 268 kB01:08
ScorpKingDudeicles: yes01:08
Dudeiclesk lets see how that works01:08
Dudeiclestalk to you soon if it doesn't let me stay in the chat01:08
ScorpKingDudeicles: that way if something goes wrong you dont loose stuf in your home dir.01:09
sezkydoes that say i already have it installed ?01:09
vlthitmanWilly: When I do normal boot nothing is started. I just get a shell prompt. `runlevel` returns "UNKNOWN" and I have to run `telinit 3` everytime to run all the daemons from rc301:09
Dudeiclesoh ok01:09
vlthitmanWilly: rc2 looks the same btw01:09
Dudeiclesmakes sense01:09
hitmanWillyvlt ok, making more sense now...01:09
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ScorpKingDudeicles: saved me a lot of work.01:09
Dudeiclescrap dude01:10
Dudeiclesinstall crashed again01:10
hitmanWillyvlt is this new or has it always done this?01:10
ScorpKingDudeicles: gimme a sec01:10
rdvonvlt: sorry I havent responded in a while, It gives no error, it just refuse to play.01:10
vlthitmanWilly: This is since upgrade from Edgy (which was a fresh install using upstart right from the start) to Feisty (using adept).01:11
hitmanWillyvlt sounds like the upgrade got borked...01:11
vltrdvon: You don't hear it play ... but can you see a timer counting or similar?01:11
hitmanWillyvlt you may try reconfiging upstart01:11
vlthitmanWilly: I must have run dpkg-reconf... upstart a 1000 times ...01:12
hitmanWillyvlt also, you may want to check the contents of rc.d01:12
stdinvlt: and make sure /etc/event.d/rc2 looks like http://stdin.pastebin.us/3942901:12
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sezkyi dont understand do i have the theme manager installed already ?01:15
rdvonvlt: I can see the name, but no counter. nothing.01:15
stdin!changethemes | sezky01:15
ubotusezky: To change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.01:15
sezkyk thanks01:15
sezkythat kde-look.org is where i downloaded one of my themes01:16
sezkythat wont install in usuing the theme manager i have installed already01:16
sezkyi thought i needed kdm theme manager01:17
vltrdvon: What player are you trying?01:18
vltrdvon: Can you please test `aplay -v <wavfile>` or if installed `mplayer <wavfile>`?01:19
winbondso who got the kde4 beta2 running on gutsy?  or feisty01:19
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sezkythis file has the extention theme.rc01:19
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sezkyis that a part of a KSplash Theme ?01:20
winbond!stupid | winbond01:20
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rdvonvlt: i'm trying songbird.01:22
rdvonvlt: i'll try amarok..01:22
vltrdvon: aplay -v01:23
rdvonvlt: it's working...01:23
winbondrdvon, songbird is not open source , is it?01:23
rdvonI guess not :(01:24
rdvonI had it in ubuntu, worked fine.01:24
Random832yes it is01:24
Random832it's based on mozilla01:24
rdvonhmm.. it did have a license agreement stating some thigns were proprietary.01:24
Random832it's little more than a firefox fork at the moment01:25
rdvonwhen does it come out?01:25
winbondi used it for a while on windows, i liked it but it was too sluggish01:25
stdinthe mozilla licence allows for some proprietary things01:25
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Random832ok, it's apparently more complex - http://www.songbirdnest.com/roblord/blog/songbird_license01:26
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vltrdvon: aplay works. What about amarok?01:30
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deathguppiehey, has anyone succesfully installed a game under wine in kubuntu??01:31
Dudeiclesgame I installed din't work right01:31
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Dudeiclesbut it's my understanding that they can work01:31
deathguppieI cannot seem to  because the cd player gets locked01:31
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Dudeiclesnot sure if you need Crossover though01:31
Dudeiclesmy cd player worked ok01:31
Dudeiclescould be different brands though01:32
deathguppieI can't seem to get disk one out during install..01:32
Dudeiclesdeathguppie: try #winehq01:32
deathguppiedevice or resource busy..01:32
Dudeiclesthey may be able to help you01:32
Dudeiclesnot trying to get rid of you, just think they'd be of more help01:33
Dudeiclesdeathguppie: np bud01:33
vltstdin: BTW you Mozilla client still tries to load my favicon.ico ;-)01:33
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Dudeiclesvlt: cache maybe?01:34
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Seek_TherapyCan someone tell me if there is software that Linux provides comparable to Dreamweaver ?01:34
DudeiclesSeek_Therapy: google ubuntu WYSIWYG01:34
Dudeiclesmay find something just as good01:35
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vltDudeicles: No, it's alright. Just info for stdi.n01:35
Seek_Therapythat is nothing compared to dreamweaver01:35
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Dudeiclesor google Ubuntu dreamweaver01:35
Dudeiclesmay tell you how to install it01:35
Dudeicleswine is a way not sure which version work though01:35
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kcghello there, i typed ooffice in konsole to open openoffice, but i saw the following error, seems to be related to my xorg settings, has anyone got an idea?01:38
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Seek_TherapyI was looking for something FREE01:38
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vltstdin: I can't access the "runlevel machine" anymore (the person who runs `telinit 3` after each of my reboots seems to be asleep now, it's 01:39 am over there). I'll ask again tomorrow. Thank you for your help.01:39
stdinok, no problem :)01:40
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Seek_TherapyIsn't there a way to just pirate it !01:41
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Seek_Therapyand how can i get passed the damn security crap01:42
stdin!piracy | Seek_Therapy01:42
ubotuSeek_Therapy: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o01:42
hitmanWillykcg is this feisty or gutsy?01:43
kcghitmanWilly, it is feisty01:43
hitmanWillykcg ok, that seems strange...01:43
hitmanWillykcg you could try a reinstall01:43
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kcgreinstall of openoffice?01:44
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msoiniok, i need some help01:44
Seek_Therapyoh get your panties out of a wad, i was just kidding. Figured why beat around the bush01:44
kcghitmanWilly, apt-get --purge remove?01:45
vltWhat does !o4o mean?01:45
msoinik3b kills my dvdr, i have to reboot to get it to work again, other burning apps don't do this01:45
sezkyhey how do i open up the file browser with root privledge ?01:45
msoinii think it's something to do with detecting empty dvd-r media01:46
vltsezky: That's not a very good idea. Maybe xou could use "mc" as root01:46
hitmanWillykcg or apt-get --reinstall01:46
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msoinibecause it doesn't happen when i start k3b with the drive empty or with a burned/bought dvd in it01:46
sumguy231sezky: kdesu konqueror01:47
sezkyit's cause i need to copy a file in a location that required root privledge01:47
vltsezky: stillnot a good idea ;-)01:47
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sezkywhy not ?01:47
Seek_TherapyLinux is so frustrating ...I mean it takes forever just to learn one damn thing01:47
vltsezky: use `sudo cp` on a shell01:47
ardchoillesezky: Better to use: sudo cp /path/file /path/location01:47
sezkyoh alright01:48
Seek_Therapyno wonder women don't use it01:48
sezkylol seek_therapy01:48
ardchoilleSeek_Therapy: My 8 year old niece uses Linux on a daily basis01:48
sumguy231msoini: Does it detect the brand and such of your drive OK in Settings -> Configure K3B -> Devices?01:48
msoiniuntil i insert the media, then that goes blank01:48
Seek_Therapyeasier to point and click and not have to apt_ efgrhowe;sjgap;wfjup['aqes01:49
kcghimanWilly, thx, im reinstall the whole openoffice01:49
sumguy231Seek_Therapy: Your ranting is kinda getting in the way here. Take it to #kubuntu-offtopic or /dev/null, please.01:49
kcghitmanWilly, thx, im reinstall the whole openoffice01:49
msoiniand the Disk & Filesystems window tells me the drive is disabled01:49
vltMy 3 yr old daughter knows how to use konqueror and my ibm trackpoint to watch photos from digicam..01:49
Seek_Therapywhatever, i doubt she installs anything !!!!!!!!101:49
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ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!01:50
vltSeek_Therapy: ;)01:50
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hitmanWillykcg that may or may not work01:51
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ubuntuHi again01:51
Seek_Therapysumguy231: no it's not getting in the way.....maybe u guys need to take note...so take note. Its not user friendly AT ALL unless you want to learn commmmmmmmd PROMPTTTTTS01:52
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ubuntuStill trying to sort out how to map my multimedia keys to the Volume01:52
ubuntuSeek_Therapy: Hmm?01:52
stdinstop that or take it to -offtopic01:52
ardchoilleSeek_Therapy: Please take that to ot, thanks.01:52
sumguy231msoini: Never mind, I have no idea. Sorry.01:53
Seek_Therapyall of you are just sensitive and weird....don't read it...its not like i am yelling over everyone01:53
sezkycp: omitting directory `/home/sezky/kde-tux/'01:54
sezkywhat does that mean?01:54
ubuntuSeek_Therapy: Yes but if it's not a support problem then it detracts from people who want help01:54
sezkyi thought cp was for copy01:54
stdinSeek_Therapy: consider this your last warning01:54
ubuntuofftopic has no problems with discussions01:54
ubuntusezky: Yes it copies files01:54
vltsezky: cp -r includes subdirs too, cp -a prevents time and privileges01:55
ubuntucp -r copies directories01:55
kcghitmanWilly, ok, well i will give it a shot, hopefully it won't mess up my distro01:55
Seek_Therapyweird!!!!!! bye01:55
sezkyoh okay i was just missing the -r01:55
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winbondSeek_Therapy, u know, for people like u there is windows01:55
ubuntuwinbond: no need to start that01:55
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vlt7lastlog vlt01:56
ardchoilleI mean, jeez.. if my 8 year old niece can happily use kubuntu daily, then..01:56
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ubuntuardchoille: 8 yo do everything happily all day01:57
dudeiclesardchoille: don't compare your computer knowledge to an 8 year olds01:57
sstchurhow would I go about setting up kde4 beta in kubuntu?  I ran sudo aptitude kde4base, but that's as far as I got, and I still seem to be using kde 3.5.x01:57
dudeicleswe're nothing compared to our kids. LOL01:58
ubuntusstchur: there is a tutorial on http://kubuntu.org01:58
dudeiclessometimes I think my 3 year old knows more.01:58
sstchurerr, sudo aptitude install kde4base i meant01:58
stdinsstchur: see the /topic01:58
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sstchurok, I will check01:58
ubuntuOr that :)01:58
RichardBHhi - is there any easy way to find out whether im using feisty or gutsy?01:58
ardchoilleRichardBH: lsb_release -a01:59
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dudeiclesardchoille: how do you folks rmember this stuff?01:59
ardchoilledudeicles: I've been using Linux since 200102:00
hitmanWillyRichardBH probably feisty unless you deliberately installed/upgraded to gutsy02:00
ubuntududeicles: He asks his 8 yo :)02:00
ardchoilleubuntu: lol02:00
RichardBHardchoille: thanks02:00
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ardchoilleRichardBH: yw02:00
dudeiclesubuntu: LOL02:00
dudeiclesyeah i'm going on full week tomorrow02:00
RichardBHhitmanWilly: i ran the python script to upgrade in the ubuntu forum howto, i just wanted to see whether it did or not02:00
dudeiclesthat's how long i've been using Linux02:00
ubuntuAnyone knows how I can map my multimedia keys to my speakers?02:00
ardchoilledudeicles: The more you use the cli, the more you memorise and the faster you get. It's the folks who don't like the cli that complain about it being too hard.02:00
ubuntuRichardBH: Check if you have Dolphin02:01
RichardBHhitmanWilly: and thats a no :(02:01
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ubuntuRichardBH: are you sure you want to be on Gutsy?02:01
dudeiclesardchoille: I understand. I guess you're right. I realized today that I know how to install more software than I though. LOL02:01
hitmanWillyRichardBH you may have to reboot for the upgrade to take effect02:01
RichardBHhitmanWilly: i did02:01
hitmanWillyoh, ok then02:01
ardchoilleRichardBH: Gutsy is still in beta, problems should be expected and you might wanna join #ubuntu+102:02
RichardBHubuntu - this is a really old pc, so i only use it for IM/browsing02:02
dudeiclesdo you have to reboot after installing KDE on to Ubuntu?02:02
ubuntuRichardBH: ok then join #ubuntu+102:02
ubuntuthey will help you02:02
hitmanWillydudeicles no02:02
RichardBHstdin has managed to get a newer version of kopete on gutsy - thats basically all i want :P02:02
RichardBHok, thanks02:02
ubuntududeicles: No You only reboot for a new kernel02:02
ardchoilledudeicles: no. You can choose a new de or wm from the kdm screen02:02
ubuntu and technically libc602:02
dudeiclesoh ok02:02
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hitmanWillydudeicles the only time you should really need to reboot are for kernel upgrades02:03
dudeiclesthen I just need to log off02:03
ubuntududeicles: Yes just choose it at the login screen02:03
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dudeiclesgot ya02:03
dudeicleswasn't sure if it required a reboot02:03
sumguy231ubuntu: About your multimedia keys, maybe you could look at the hotkeys package. I've never successfully used it, though I've tried. It depends on your keyboard.02:04
RichardBHubuntu - unless...is there a way to access the gutsy repositories, and if i installed something from them is there -any- chance it would work on feisty?02:04
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ubuntusumguy231: here is the thing02:04
ubuntuIt's already mapped to my sound02:04
ubuntu just to my headphone port instead of my speaker02:05
ardchoilleRichardBH: Mixing repos like that is almost sure to cause you problems. Please refrain from mixing.02:05
ubuntuRichardBH: Yes02:05
RichardBHardchoille: lol, ok02:05
ubuntuRichardBH: Second part. No02:05
sumguy231Oh, I misunderstood the question then. You have a separate headphone port?02:05
RichardBHill stick custom-emoticon less until gutsy is properly release then :P02:05
ubuntusumguy231: Yeah02:06
ubuntusumguy231: Which of course I don't use02:06
ubuntuRichardBH: Just install the emoticons02:06
sumguy231What's so special about it that prevents you from connecting a speaker?02:06
sumguy231I'm just really confused about that.02:07
Seek_TherapyStop booting me and grow the hell up..all you did was screw up my damn irc client as i was about to lease....there needs to be an age limit on who can be an Op. Now leave me alone, I am frustrated enough02:07
ubuntuSettings -> configure -> Appearance -> Get New Themes02:07
ubuntuRichardBH: ^^^02:07
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ubuntusumguy231: laptop02:07
ubuntusumguy231: Built in speakers02:07
RichardBHubuntu- ah, but i cant add my own ones there - only ones peolpe have packaged into themes02:07
ardchoillestdin: ty :)02:07
sumguy231Oh, got it. I knew it was something obvious like that.02:07
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ubuntuRichardBH: Oh you can make up your own on Gutsy?02:08
ubuntuOh right of course you can I'm on Gutsy02:08
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RichardBHubuntu - apparently the 0.12.5 version of kopete on gutsy has a theme editor thing, so you can, whereas the same version on feisty doesnt appear to02:08
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ubuntuYeah I'm looking at it now02:09
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Dhraakellianinstalling kdebase-workspace only installs a very minimal amount, I take it?02:12
ardchoilleDhraakellian: What did you intend to install? The desktop?02:12
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ardchoilleDhraakellian: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop    <-- that will install the kde desktop environment if that's what you wanted02:14
Dhraakelliannononono... trying to play around with the KDE4 beta02:14
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ardchoilleAh, ok02:15
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dudeiclesi'm back02:15
dudeiclesno no please nobody get up. LOL02:16
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Dhraakellianthink I'll just go in with synaptic and install every non-dev KDE package that has a version number of 3.9302:21
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hitmanWillyDhraakellian ok, see you in a couple of days...02:23
DhraakellianI can see freenode from both computers02:24
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Dhraakellianonly the laptop is getting the KDE4 installation02:24
hitmanWillyok, still, that'll take awhile02:25
hitmanWillyDhraakellian it could be worse, you could be doing this on a gentoo box :P02:26
Dhraakellianbeen there02:26
Dhraakelliandone that02:26
hitmanWillyDhraakellian well, i still like mine :)02:26
Dhraakellianif the pattern holds, I'll be doing it again by the end of february02:26
hitmanWillyDhraakellian run gentoo on the desk, kubu on the lappy :)02:26
Dhraakellian(year and a half of Gentoo, six months or so of something else, then back to gentoo02:26
Dhraakellianyeah, probably02:26
hitmanWillyDhraakellian that's what I do anyway02:27
Dhraakellianalthough it'll probably be more like primary distro on the desktop, testing distro on the laptop02:27
DhraakellianI have kubuntu on both currently, but only the laptop is getting KDE402:27
tininHi, will kubuntu gutsy support compiz?02:28
hitmanWillywell, i built my desktop piece by piece, so i figured why not the os too :)02:28
hitmanWillytinin it should, at least to some extent02:28
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hitmanWillytinin it supports it now, but compiz is still very beta02:28
Dhraakellianand KWin can already do the basic transparency stuff02:29
hitmanWillyits fake transparency, tho02:29
Dhraakellianno idea how much better compiz does it, but kwin's works for me?02:29
tinincompiz will be oficially supported in ubuntu, but on kde it still sucks, I was just wondering if they were going to fix all those bugs on kde02:30
Dhraakellianactually, kwin does do true transparency02:30
hitmanWillyDhraakellian yeah, put a transparent window over top of another one and see if the underlying window shows up or the desktop02:30
Dhraakellianno idea if it's doing it the 'proper' way with composite, but it *is* true transparency02:30
tininthe pager and the taskbar do not work well by now02:30
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hitmanWillyif its the desktop and not the underlying window, then its fake02:31
DhraakellianhitmanWilly: kcontrol > desktop > window behavior > translucency02:31
DhraakellianhitmanWilly: it's true transparency, man02:31
DhraakellianKonsole's built-in transparency is fake02:32
tininand konsole, yakuake or katapult should look ok with real transparency02:32
tininnow sux02:32
Dhraakellianas is xchat's (not that it's a KDE app, of course)02:32
Dhraakellianbut yes, KWin does offer true transparency02:32
tininDhraakellian, are you able to run konsole or katapult with transparency under kde'02:33
tinincould you tell me how?02:34
Dhraakelliangranted it's full window transparency instead of just in the text area02:34
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Dhraakellianif you want just the text area transparent, I think you have to go with konsole's own pseudotransparency02:34
Dhraakelliantinin: kcontrol > desktop > window behavior > translucency02:35
tininI found gnome-terminal looks much better than konsole with compiz02:35
Dhraakelliantinin: using kwin02:35
tininmmm, I must confess I'm using gnome these days, because of that problems02:35
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tininI'd like to go back, but I like how compiz runs much better for now on gnome02:36
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tininI readed kwin will get it's own effects too on kde4502:36
Dhraakellianwell, it's not much for effects02:37
Dhraakellianbut the basic transparency and shadows are already available in KDE302:37
tinin<Dhraakellian> and how de you do to get the taskbar to show the windows from the current workspace only with compiz?02:37
Dhraakellianno idea02:38
DhraakellianI don't use compiz02:38
DhraakellianI just use kwin02:38
stdintinin: you can't02:38
tininyou should have said02:38
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Dhraakelliantinin: I've been talking all along about how to get transparency and such with *kwin*02:38
tininyou use weird words sometimes for an spanish, sorry XD02:39
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Dhraakellianyour english is certainly better than my spanish02:40
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lufisThe kde packages in gutsy's repos are kde4 beta packages, right?02:41
tininI've been trying to use compiz, beryl or compiz fusion under kde since the begining. I now those errors are gone on kde4, but there's still too much time left to use it02:42
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Dhraakellianwith KDE4, from what I understand, KWin does most/all of it itself anyway02:42
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Dhraakellianin KDE3 (on kubuntu, at leastI haven't checked with other distros) it just does translucency and shadows02:43
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tininyeah, translucency and shadows work good, ok. But there are lots of bugs on how some things should be shown, small but very uncomfortable bugs. And you realize that it is much more polished for gnome02:46
bobbyyuI have a Ubuntu problem02:47
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bobbyyuShould I type it here?02:47
stdinyeah :)02:48
Dhraakelliantinin: I can take a little lack of polish on the shinies as long as the rest of my features still work and are included02:48
bobbyyuWHen I print through the network printer, it says "paused: job-hold-until-specified"02:48
winbondhow good is that free flash, cause the piece of crap adobe crash is really pissing me off02:48
Dhraakellian...but that's straying into an area where we don't really want to go in this channel02:48
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stdinwinbond: not as good as adobe's, only about flash7 level now02:49
stdinbut making progress02:49
winbondthat adobe crap keeps crashing everything02:50
winbondwhats the name of it?02:50
stdinbobbyyu: that's normally means that it can't communicate with the server/printer02:51
stdinwinbond: gnash02:51
tininDhraakellian, what i like the most of compiz is not the shini, is the usability, it is very easy to switch and eek the apps and all the windows02:51
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Dhraakelliantinin: I still like being able to maximize vertically or horizontally with a single click on the titlebar02:52
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bobbyyuWhat's the cause?02:52
Dhraakellianand various other niceties that kwin has02:52
stdinbobbyyu: can be a few things, like the printer being off, or just that the printer isn't setup right on your system02:53
tinin<Dhraakellian> that is able to do in compiz, and much more nicely btw02:53
tininlook at this02:53
tininthose are some things they were working on for kwin in kde402:53
Dhraakellianmiddle-click and right-click (respectively) on the maximize button02:53
tininall customizable02:54
bobbyyuIsn't set up right? I installed the drivers02:54
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dudeiclesanyone here use MAME?02:55
dudeiclesor know of a good replacement for MAME32?02:55
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coreymon77dudeicles: apt-cache search is your best fried02:57
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dudeiclesbut what am I looking for?02:57
bobbyyuWhat should I do?02:58
coreymon77dudeicles: its called a keyword02:58
coreymon77dudeicles: try searching for mame02:58
dudeiclesgot ya02:58
dudeicleswasn't sure what that was02:58
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dudeiclesi apologize for sounding like a complete idiot02:59
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bobbyyustdin: What should I do?03:00
sven__Hi there, Im using kubuntu 7.04, and Im trying to do a full upgrade with adept manager, it downloads, installs, and then says it could not install because of some conflicts.. then it crashes.. any idea on how to fix this?03:00
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stdinbobbyyu: go through the setup again, and print a test page too see if it's working03:00
bobbyyuI've setup the device drivers03:00
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bobbyyuI've done a thousand times.03:00
stdinbobbyyu: have you tried printing a test page to see if they are working?03:01
bobbyyuThat's where the error came in03:01
bobbyyuSorry if I sound impatient03:02
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bobbyyuI'm using a Lexmark Z600 driver03:04
bobbyyuI've been able to print before03:05
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bobbyyuBut I formatted my Ubuntu space and had to install 180 MB worth of updates after reinstalling Ubuntu03:05
bobbyyuIs there something in the printers.conf that I should edit?03:06
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sven__anyone on how I can do a full upgrade with adept manager without it running into conflicts?03:07
stdinbobbyyu: try having a look at http://www.stat.tamu.edu/~henrik/GSPSprinter/GSPSprinter.html03:07
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bobbyyuWhat is a Postscript?03:09
andresjbobbyyu: postscript is a document format, like pdf; but it is used for printing03:09
bobbyyuOK, thank you stdin and andresj, I'll try it03:10
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andresjsven_, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading talks about upgrading ubuntu; it should not be too different doing it in kubuntu03:11
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Dhraakellianokay, my kde4 desktop looks... crappy03:11
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stdinDhraakellian: no launcher bar?03:12
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Dhraakellianthere's a bar at the bottom03:12
stdinDhraakellian: but it has 2 boxes with something like "object not found" ?03:12
Dhraakellian"This object could not be created."03:13
_2i'm looking for a good way to make a disk bootable.    can i just copy the mbr from a bootable disk... no that wont work cause the kernel may be at a different address.      thoughts ?03:13
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stdinDhraakellian:  yeah, sorry, but that's KDE beta2 right there03:13
stdinso that's it, enjoy beta2 :)03:14
hitmanWilly_2 i think there's a bootdisk util somewhere03:14
_2box will not boot from CD  will boot from floppys,  but not grub.  all grub will do is reset it.     so maybe floppy with loadlin and a kernel initramfs pair that will fit on floppies...03:14
stdinDhraakellian: you can still start apps from krunner (alt-f2)03:15
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andresj_2: http://www.linux-live.org/ http://reconstructor.aperantis.com/ and there is also a page in the ubuntu wiki03:15
Dhraakellianshortcut isn't working03:16
Dhraakelliancontext menu entry is03:16
andresj_2, or maybe you are looking for isolinux (http://syslinux.zytor.com/iso.php)03:16
_2andresj no mention of floppy boot on first link03:16
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_2syslinux   yes maybe.   but how to make the hd bootable is the Q03:17
hitmanWilly_2 you may be able to install lilo on the bootdisk and have it reference the cd img...03:17
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hitmanWillyor the hdd03:17
christopherI just installed Kubuntu, how do I get compiz-fusion03:17
_2hitmanWilly hmmm maybe...  that sounds convoluted enough it just might work.03:18
stdinchristopher: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion03:18
manikfoxanyone know an easy way to get all the dev packages... perl, gtk, base, etc?03:18
hitmanWillyi think lilo should be able to do that, or grub should fit on a fd03:18
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Zaeloreanyone here good with powerppc?03:18
christopherstdin, thank you03:18
Zaelorekubuntu won't see all the memory in my computer, ibook g403:19
_2hitmanWilly but grub just resets the box03:19
hitmanWilly_2, ok, then lilo then :)03:19
stdin!anyone | Zaelore03:19
ubotuZaelore: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?03:19
_2it boots the bios and grub loading stage 1.5 boots the bios and grub loading stage 1.5 and boots the bios...03:20
manikfoxanyone know an easy way to get all the dev packages... perl, gtk, base, etc?03:20
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Zaeloreopen adept search for perl dev, gtk dev, base dev?03:20
hitmanWillymanikfox well, apt-get install *-dev, but that would take forever and a day to install03:21
manikfoxyeah, but I'm not sure which ones to install... I just want them all03:21
_2hitmanWilly and to make matters worse i also formated the drive (not a partition) so now grub would be useless if it could load.03:21
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manikfoxhitmanWilly: how much space? less than a few GBs?03:21
Zaelorehow can I test my memory in ubuntu?03:22
hitmanWillymanikfox a lot, since that installs the source for everything on ubuntu that's available, which is A LOT03:22
_2Zaelore tell us the first time you saw ubuntu   what did you eat that day ????03:22
_2Zaelore or you can test the computers memory with   memtest-86 at boot time03:23
hitmanWillyZaelore hit esc while grub is booting, then select memtest86 from the boot options03:23
Zaelorei'm not running on an x86 processer03:23
Zaelorewould it still work?03:23
_2ppc ?03:23
_2don't think so03:23
Zaeloreyeah >_X03:24
BluesKajwhat's the command for unpacking wavpack files ?03:24
_2you can try it...   it "shouldn't" explode if it doesn't work03:24
ZaeloreI tried $ sudo nvsetenv03:24
Zaeloreand got ram-size=0x4800000003:25
Zaelorewhich translates to roughtly the right amount of memory03:25
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ZaeloreI will try reboot + esc and see if I can find anything03:26
BluesKajnowhere in the man pages does wavpack say what the decompress command is .03:26
BluesKajeven on the wavpack site there's nothing03:27
Dhraakellianstdin: you sure this is how it's supposed to be?03:27
stdinDhraakellian: yep03:28
binvijHi .. i am getting the following error while changing date - su returned with an error, on my new install of kubuntu03:28
andresjI am trying to install Compiz Fusion as described in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion . but it says that compiz-kde depends on a package that does not exist (libcompizconfig-backend-kconfig)... anyone know if there is another repository I have to add, or otherwise how can I install compiz fusion?03:28
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Dhraakellianhmm... shortcuts don't appear to be working03:28
rixxonI did a "chmod 600 ~" and now it's all fucked. Help? :P03:28
rixxonSorry for the bad language there.03:28
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binvijpreviously i got an error - conversation with su failed03:29
Zaeloreh'mm didn't help, esc would not quit the booting process03:30
andresjrixxon: sudo chmod u+rw ~; sudo chmod a+r ~03:30
hitmanWillybinvij are you using su or sudo?03:30
rixxonandresj: I want to lock my home from other users03:30
stdinZaelore: looked at http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/utils/memtester ?03:31
hitmanWillyrixxon it is by default03:31
binviji am just right clicking on my time display and saying adjust date & time03:31
hitmanWillyrixxon except for root03:31
rixxonhitmanWilly: my newly added guest could read my real users directory, and the contents of the files.03:31
andresjrixxon, then: sudo chmod -R a-rw; sudo chmod -R u+rw03:31
rixxonchmod 700 ~ solved it anyway03:31
hitmanWillyrixxon that's weird03:31
rixxonWhy does home need to be executable?03:31
binvijis this a bug...03:31
binvijits my new install03:32
hitmanWillyrixxon in case you have any personal apps in there03:32
andresjwhen the executable bit is set to a directory, it means that it can be listed03:32
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rixxonhitmanWilly: but when I had it as 600, no files could be even read!03:32
hitmanWillyrixxon yeah, it needs it to list files as well03:33
rixxonoh, +x is list for dirs?03:33
rixxonthought +r would do that03:33
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hitmanWillyrixxon yes, when you cd to a dir, you are executing that dir03:33
rixxonokies. thanks then.03:33
binvijany suggestions ?03:33
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binviji see the following bug -Bug #88257 in kdebase:03:34
hokatichenciI just did a fresh kubuntu install on a laptop, and I'm trying to edit the login manager but no matter what settings I change I always get the default kubuntu kdm, which is incredibly annoying03:35
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_2what's the syntax for xmessage buttons ?    is it  >>>xmessage -buttons yes:2,no:255 "text here"<<<  anyone ?03:35
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andresj_2. man xmessage03:35
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Dhraakellianhow would I get to KDE settings in KDE4?03:36
hitmanWilly_2 hold on, lemme check right quick...03:36
andresjDhraakellian: KDE 4's settings are in the program 'systemsettings'03:36
_2andresj  are you always this debian minded ?03:37
hitmanWilly_2, ok, all the number is is the exit value when the button is clicked, just like the exit bash cmd03:38
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andresjhaha, I don't know what exactly do you mean by debian minded, but I just figured it was simple to just look in the man page...03:38
_2hitmanWilly yes and that is the syntax   correct   you dont add the  []    ?03:38
hitmanWillynot that i can tell03:38
_2hitmanWilly k thanks.03:39
hitmanWillyi think the : handles that03:39
binvijis there a known issue with kubuntu fresh install for the error "su returned with an error"- there seems to be no solution03:39
hitmanWillybinvij you might try setting an actual root passwd03:40
hokatichenciAnyone? Is KDM just totally forced to theme to kubuntu?03:40
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binvijthanks. let me check that03:40
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hitmanWillybinvij honestly, sounds like /etc/sudoers is messed up03:41
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hitmanWillybinvij or your current acct isn't in the admin group03:41
binvijyes ...but how to add that now since even in the User Management, i get  the same error when i try to switch to Administrator Modee03:42
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hitmanWillybinvij type groups in a konsole window and see if admin pops up03:43
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_2binvij you are not trying to use "su" are you ?   try sudo.  kdesu,  or gksudo03:45
_2oh disreguard.03:46
hitmanWilly_2, no, its when he tries to go into administrator mode (kdesu)03:46
_2i'm slow03:46
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_2yeah group issue.    boot failsafe mode and add the user to the "admin" group03:46
binvij i tried using "groups" .. that shows me "root03:47
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binvijand i also tried adding myself /etc/sudoers like -> username ALL=(ALL) ALL03:48
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binvijthis has not changed anything03:48
binvijdo i need to reboot my box ?03:49
hitmanWillybinvij logout and log back in03:49
binvijsure.. let me do that ... brb03:49
_2and how did you edit /etc/* without root perms ???03:51
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hitmanWillywell, when he did groups, i just noticed he said something about being in the root group....03:53
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christopherok, i've got everything installed for compiz-fusion but I cant get compiz-kde installed03:57
christopher Depends: libcompizconfig-backend-kconfig  but it is not installable03:58
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christopherin other words i'm using compiz but no decorations03:59
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vsudilovcan anyone help me set up OpenGL on my system that uses nvidia-legacy drivers?04:00
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binvijhitmanWilly- Got it fixed . Thanks :-)04:00
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andresjchristopher, I have the same problem ;)04:01
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christopherthe instructions I have says to add to repositories, the first one works, the second says it's out of date or no longer exists04:02
hitmanWillybinvij ok\04:02
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christopherandresj, I take it, you haven't gotten anywhere with it then?04:04
andresjchristopher, in adept manager, I selected the packages the guide tells me to install, but when I select compiz-kde, it says Broken04:05
andresjso I am still using beryl :)04:05
christopherright, me too04:05
christopherso to just use beryl, do I need to uninstal anything?04:05
andresjI don't think so, I have compiz fusion installed partially; and I am running beryl...04:06
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_aaaWhich printer is best to use with Ubuntu7.04?04:06
christopheralright, I will give it a shot, so is compiz fusion still in beta then or what?04:06
andresjno idea04:07
stdinif you have emerald still installed you can use that with fusion by running "emerald --replace"04:07
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christopherthen I will try that04:08
christopherthat works, thanks04:08
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christopherhow do I get all that to startup when starting kde, or do i have too04:09
Psycoshotchris, whats your question?04:10
stdinchristopher:  if you want it to start with kde, put that command in a file and make it executable, then put it in ~/.kde/Autostart04:10
PsycoshotI might have the same04:10
_2is there a way to change the font face of an xmessage   the text is so tiny it doesn't look important...   ?04:10
_2stdin  ^   ?04:10
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christopherok thank you stdin04:11
christopheryou have been very helpful, hopefully I can return the favor04:11
stdin_2: don't think so, I think it's a compiled in choice04:11
hitmanWilly_2 not that i see...04:11
_2k    thanks guys04:11
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PsycoshotWho here is good with scripts?? I need one that starts: cairo-clock, emerald --replace, compiz --replace and kiba-dock04:12
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Psycoshotwhen I boot up.04:12
_2Psycoshot just put those things one per line  in a plain text file   and make it executable04:13
_2Psycoshot just like you would type them in a console04:13
Psycoshothow do I make it an executable04:13
_2konqueror right click it.04:14
andresjPsycoshot, and put the script in ~/.kde/Autostart04:14
PsycoshotYay ill try04:14
stdinPsycoshot: you may want to put a " &" after those commands too04:14
_2Psycoshot or   chmod 755 filename   from the konsole04:14
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_2stdin only if they tie up the konsole when typed there   (said for Psycoshot's benifit)04:15
stdinwell I know compiz and emerald will04:15
PsycoshotHow do I put like pauses inbetween commands04:16
_2sleep #04:16
Psycoshotah right04:16
stdineg: sleep 204:17
_2where # is the number of seconds04:17
Psycoshotso eg04:17
andresjyou can also use float numbers (0.5)04:17
Psycoshotemerald --replace04:17
Psycoshotsleep 5 &04:17
Psycoshotcompiz --replace04:17
PsycoshotNot sure on the &04:18
stdinnot quite04:18
_2yeah i didn't specify "whole" numbers andresj04:18
andresjPyscoshot, put & on the other lines. do not put it on sleep04:18
_2Psycoshot the  ampersand is on the wrong command.04:18
andresj_2, haha all right. just adding information :)04:18
Psycoshotemerald --replace &04:18
Psycoshotsleep 504:18
Psycoshotcompiz --replace04:18
stdinPsycoshot: yeah, and another & after compiz --replace if you want to put more commands after it04:19
andresj& makes the script to not wait for the program to finish, so if you put it on sleep, it won't have any effect04:19
PsycoshotOk thanks04:19
_2and if there is anything after compiz background it too.   that is end the line with &    that will drop the process to the background and move to the next line, as opposed to waiting for the exit of the command.04:20
hitmanWilly_2, just had a thought, does xmessage accept utf codes?04:20
Psycoshotbrb gonna test04:20
_2idk...  but not on the buttons i'm sure.04:20
hitmanWillyoh well, worth a try...04:20
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_2i guess i could resize the desktop to 640x480 then message it...  that would work....  :)04:21
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hitmanWilly_2, lol04:23
kitsunepawsare you?04:23
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hitmanWillykitsunepaws do you have an issue?04:25
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hitmanWillywell, ask away04:25
kitsunepawsI hoping perhaps somebody can help04:25
kitsunepawsI'm using onboard 6100 video04:25
kitsunepawswith a CTX04:26
kitsunepawsI want 1600x120004:26
kitsunepawsbut cant get kubuntu to co-operate04:26
hitmanWillykitsunepaws does the card/monitor support it?04:26
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hitmanWillykitsunepaws ok, pastebin the contents of /etc/X11/xorg.conf please04:27
hitmanWilly!pastebin | kitsunepaws04:27
ubotukitsunepaws: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:27
_2hitmanWilly stdin i was working on a way to flag a remote user with a question over ssh before affecting their box   this i what i have developed.   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3943204:27
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hitmanWillykitsunepaws hmmm, should be working...04:29
kitsunepawsyeah.. i wish it would..04:29
hitmanWillykitsunepaws did you try changing the res via control center?04:29
stdin_2: nice, I've played with something like that before04:29
kitsunepaws1024 is as high as i can get04:30
kitsunepaws@54 HZ04:30
hitmanWillyhmmm, definately strange04:30
stdin_2: you just have to make sure they have the right xhost command somewhere in their startup04:30
mark105man i have the weirdest problem, i booted of live cd to install, sweet had X goin n all, installed it, X dont work, reconfigure X still dont work, bugger it ill verify my cd, its sweet, ok ill reinstall, now X on install dont work either, now i dunno wat to do04:30
_2stdin yes that's taken care of04:31
vsudilovcould anyone help with my attempts to install OpenGL support on my system? Shouldn't it come with the nvidia-legacy drivers ???04:32
kitsunepawsCan somebody please show me how I can tell X11 what resolution I wish to use?04:32
mark105all i get is a black screen, no cursor, cant even alt+F key back to console or alt+ctrl+F key, weird04:32
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BorisYaltsinHi, how do I resize a reiserfs partition?04:32
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BorisYaltsinfrom the command line..04:33
BorisYaltsinfrom the text installer actually.04:33
_2mark105 kernel args   noacpi nosplash quiet              and see what happens04:34
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_2mark105 might through in a vga=0x0f05   for good measure04:35
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_2pitch   toss   chuck    fling ....04:36
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BluesKajinteresting , K3B converts various audio formats , if the plugins are configured to decode them04:45
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_2hmmmm i don't know if i am going to be able to build a router out of that 486 or not....    i know i can if i can ever get a bootable linux installed...   it's the installing on a system that can't boot a cd and has only 32m ram   that is giving me fits.04:48
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_2ummm   i got it.     pull the hd install on another box and replace it.....04:49
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aaronhello can someone please PM me i need help installing programs on Kubuntu!!04:50
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aaronhello can someone please PM me i need help installing programs on Kubuntu!!04:51
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aaronhello can someone please PM me i need help installing programs on Kubuntu!!04:51
_2aaron    adept.  aptitude  and apt-get  are package management tools.04:51
savetheWorldaaron: generally the way to go is to ask your question right here in the channel.04:51
aaronoh k04:51
FlatfenderI'm trying to play MP3's from an external hard drive, but when I open one it doesn't play regardless of what media player I use.04:52
savetheWorldtaht way everyone can help or learn from it.04:52
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savetheWorldFlatfender: what happens when you open an MP3 thats on the internal drive?04:52
_2Flatfender do the work locally ?04:52
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thomasdoes anyone know the best way to access windows folders on another disk on my computer? Should I use Samba?04:53
aaroni am running KDE on ubuntu and i need help installing Firefox thanks04:53
savetheWorldthomas: no.  Samba is network only04:53
_2thomas not for a local mount.04:53
_2!ntfs | thomas04:53
ubotuthomas: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse04:53
savetheWorldaaron: apt-get instal firefox?04:53
aaronok ill try04:53
FlatfendersavetheWorld, it does the same thing04:54
thomas_2: I already have ntfs-3g0 installed04:54
lascar(and i need internet access)04:54
_2aaron in a konsole issue this command.    sudo apt-get install firefox04:54
savetheWorldthomas: mount that file system as NTFS04:54
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savetheWorldFlatfender: get any error messages?04:54
will_can someone reccomend a good video player?04:55
aaronok i get this message04:55
aaronE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)04:55
aaronE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?04:55
will_I'm very use to windows media player04:55
savetheWorldwill_:  vlc04:55
savetheWorldaaron: did you sue sudo?04:55
savetheWorlderr "use sudo"04:55
aaronoh forgot srry04:56
_2aaron ok close other package managers and in a konsole issue this command.    sudo apt-get install firefox04:56
FlatfenderNot that I see, it just opens up lets say in the audio program and doesn't play, it just stops savetheWorld04:56
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will_it says that is a video conferencing tool ?04:56
will_vic listing on repository04:56
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_2will_ vic != vlc04:57
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will_so what am I typing into the repository?04:58
savetheWorldFlatfender: I have no idea.  At least we have determined it has nothing to do with the external drive04:58
will_I got some pr0n to watch !04:58
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aaronok i cant find a firefox package04:59
_2!mp3 | Flatfender i don't know what version of ubuntu you have but this might help04:59
ubotuFlatfender i don't know what version of ubuntu you have but this might help: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:59
will_aaron the easiest way is to goto add remove programs04:59
will_its in there04:59
aaronive searched 'firefox mozillafirefox and mozilla04:59
jhutchinswill_: vlc or mplayer are the most capable and best working.04:59
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jhutchinswill_: Actually, after a little mental training, the command line is easier.05:00
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Biovoremencoder rules all :-p05:00
mahdiit seems that qtparted doesn't want to let me do anything, even though i'm not booted onto the partition that i'm trying to manipulate, is there some magic dance i need to do first?05:00
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jhutchinsaaron: mozilla-firefox05:00
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_2!info firefox05:00
ubotufirefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version (feisty), package size 9045 kB, installed size 28668 kB05:00
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ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:01
aaroni ran sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox but all went well, then oop DOH Broken Package05:02
aaronwell for some stupid reason my Add\Remove Programs is not loading05:03
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aaronbut my Adept Manager is working !!05:03
thomas_2: thank you I got it working05:03
thomas_2: as read only though05:03
thomasIs there a way to log in as root without issuing the "kdesu konqueror" command in run?05:04
aaronhmm well i went to getfirefox.com and downloaded a gzipped tar file of version and now what do i do??05:05
aaroni really hate Konqueror05:05
_2thomas sudo -i    in  a console/konsole/terminal  gui root login is rejected by default.  and by default the root password is locked   so "login as root" requires some fixinf05:06
_2fixing even05:06
_2thomas also root gui is not worth it.  many things wont work right for root05:07
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thomas_2: essentially though sudo is basically root because you enter root's password to access "root" rights, which doesn't fully make sense to me05:08
_2sudo switches to the root account yes05:08
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_2but you do "NOT" use the root password for sudo05:08
thomas_2: well for example I'm the system administrator and want to be able to access all other users files, and the only way is through root correct?05:08
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_2thomas correct05:09
aaron hmm well i went to getfirefox.com and downloaded a gzipped tar file of version and now what do i do??05:09
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thomas_2: how would you recommend I go about doing this?05:09
Jucato!info firefox05:09
_2delete it and install the .deb package in the repos aaron05:09
ubotufirefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version (feisty), package size 9045 kB, installed size 28668 kB05:09
stdinaaron, it's be in the repositories05:10
thomasaaron: I think you should use adept, isn't it much easier that way05:10
will_man these players are not playing the mpegs05:10
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_2thomas alt+f2 kdesu konqueror05:10
Bebegewassup ya'll...05:10
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!05:11
Bebegeanyone here knos how to map a drive for network purposes?05:11
hismajestythank u05:11
will_Um getting a XINE PLAYER NOT RUNNING error with kmplayer05:11
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thomas_2: yes exactly :D, that was my original question, theres no other way to do it but through "run". I want to for example to go and click "home folder" and then be able to either access users files or enter a password....I just figure there should be an easier way05:11
Jucatothomas: what are you looking for?05:12
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_2thomas you could put a shortcut on the desktop or taskbar05:12
jhutchinswill_: I'm not completely up on these things, the restricted-formats page is better, but kmplayer is crap.  Use mplayer/mplayer-gui instead.05:12
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jhutchins!mp3 | will05:13
ubotuwill: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:13
Jucatothomas: there's an Actions -> Edit as Root service menu in Konqueror05:13
thomashmm I guess....but I can't allow my username to have root priveleges over other users accounts somehow? wihtout password?05:13
ubotuIn KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo05:13
Jucatojhutchins: hm.. you do know that kmplayer just uses mplayer or xine as backends, right?05:13
_2drag and drop your little house icon there and right click it in the properties section prepend kdesu to the konqueror file manager string05:13
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Jucatoer.. sorry, kmplayer uses mplayer only05:13
jhutchinsJucato: Yes, and badly.05:13
Jucatohm.. never had problems with it except one time with .sub's05:13
jhutchinsJucato: It's not the back end that's the problem, it's the restricted interface.05:14
hismajestyi'm tired so good night ;D05:14
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Jucatojhutchins: how about kplayer then?05:14
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JucatoI heard kplayer exposes more of mplayer's stuff than kmplayer05:14
thomasJucato: no there isn't for me05:14
_2thomas why are you trying to be a tirant on that box anyway ???    just because you own it, doesn't mean other users want you to play god05:14
thomas_2: i'm sure system admins would like full control , just like I like to :D05:15
aaronok i keep getting a Su returned an error box whenever i try to open Adept05:15
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Flatfenderhow do I make the bot tell me about the MP3 again?05:15
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ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:16
thomasaaron: whats the error?05:16
Jucatothomas: you right-click on a text file to get that Actions -> Edit as Root of course05:16
aaronSu returned an error05:16
serginhoHi. I'm new in Linux. I have a simple question about rename files, can anyone help me?05:16
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stdin!ask | serginho05:16
ubotuserginho: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:16
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thomasJucato: no but it has a big lock on the folder :S05:17
_2thomas full control != big brother looking over your shoulder all the time.       i have full control on several boxes,    and for the most part i stay out of other users accounts/homes05:17
aaronSu returned an error05:17
aaronSu returned an error05:17
aaronSu returned an error05:17
aaronSu returned an error05:17
aaronSu returned an error05:17
aaronthats the error05:17
serginhoi have a subdir with lot of sequencial files (foto1.jpg foto2.jpg foto3.jpg...) and need to rename they to foto1p.jpg foto2p.jpg foto3p.jpg...05:17
serginhobut I did now how to do it!05:17
Jucato!info krename | serginho05:18
ubotuserginho: krename: Powerful batch renamer for KDE 3.x. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.13-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 330 kB, installed size 1288 kB05:18
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto05:18
thomas_2: well another big reason why i'm trying to do this _2 is because I'm learning linux and am curious05:18
jhutchinsaaron: You have encountered the fatal weakness in kubuntu's sudo system.05:18
aaronhow do i fix it05:18
serginhobut I was writen a shell script, krename works in shell mode?05:18
Jucatono, it's a GUI05:19
JucatoBASH scripts in ##bash please, or directed at _205:19
jhutchinsaaron: Well, I know a clean install will fix it, but there's something less drastic.  Something has caused a file to be incorrectly timestamped.05:19
thomasaaron: just curious? does that account have full admin rights?05:19
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thomasjhutchins: maybe he doesn't have su rights?05:20
jhutchinsserginho: It's really easy, #bash is probably a good try.05:20
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jhutchinsthomas: No, it's a glitch.  Something essentially got corrupted.05:20
serginhook Thank you05:20
jhutchinsthomas: Remember that the GUI package manager will ask for your password.05:20
thomasjhutchins: yes i know05:21
_2thomas well like i said eariler,  you can set the box up with any configuration you want.  if you want to login to the gui as root that can be arranged,  but some things wont work right if you do that.   and this "but i don't want to have to type a password" to access root things is a simple edit of one file...   but i hope you to realize that one of the reasons that linux doesn't have virii is it's inhearent security, which you wi05:21
thomasjhutchins: i just figured that it returned an error because hes not allowed to even enter a password but I think your right05:21
jhutchinsWe see this about once a week, I wish I'd paid more attention to how to fix it...05:22
aaronwell i restarted su and now it says enter password and i enterd it05:22
thomas_2: did that last line finish?05:22
_2it's inhearent security, which you will be eliminating...05:22
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aaronnow says Commucation with SU failed05:22
_2last line ^05:22
cashHello , im so sorry for stupid question .May be some people know ,where I can download themes for emerald ?05:23
vsudilovhmmm could anyone help with the GL error: (EE) GLX is not supported with the Composite extension05:23
aaronwell now it logon to su and says Authentcation error05:23
thomas_2: I understand. I think the reason why I'm asking aswell was that I might not remember the kdesu konqueror command in the future and wondering if there was an easier GUI way :S05:23
FlatfenderI got the music to work but I have no volume now..05:23
jhutchinscash: Emerald and suchlike are supported in #ubuntu-effects05:23
cashjhutchins thx a loTT05:24
jhutchinsaaron: all I can suggest is searching the forums, this problem does come up regularly.05:24
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thomas_2: I still have to read up on ubuntu security because I dont fully understand it. I think it also differs from other linux versions05:25
stdinvsudilov: you have to add this to the bottom of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3943305:26
_2yeah it definitely differs from what i run05:26
ubotuA/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2105:26
thomasty sir05:26
vsudilovstdin: I found that solution on google, and I've tried it. Problem is, my Xserver doesn't load !!05:26
_2thomas   http://librenix.com/?inode=21  <<<  that's a pretty good read.05:26
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Jucato_2, thomas: but not too much. Ubuntu still follows the *nix access rules (rwxrwxrwx)...05:27
stdinvsudilov: there's no reason that adding that will stop X from starting05:27
FlatfenderDoes anyone know how to set my Audigy 2 as my main sound output05:27
vsudilovstdin: Perhaps my nvidia card doesn't have a composite option? It is a legacy card05:27
thomasJucato: yea soooooooo?05:27
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Jucato[11:25]  <thomas> _2: I still have to read up on ubuntu security because I dont fully understand it. I think it also differs from other linux versions05:27
stdinvsudilov: with all nvidia card that need to be added05:28
thomasyea like -rwwrwrw is root -----rwwrwrwrwww is sudo and ------------------------rwrwrw is su?05:28
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_2Jucato indeed,   but i think he meant; and know i did, the sudo root jr. approach to administeration access05:28
vsudilovstdin: Ok, I'll give it another shot. Do you have any ideas if that doesn't work?05:28
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thomasJucato: oh ok makes sense now :S05:28
aaronhello again what is default root password??05:28
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ubuntu!root | aaron05:28
ubotuaaron: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo05:28
_2my system differs greatly in that reguard.05:28
Jucatoyes, the sudo way is very much the Ubuntu way05:28
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stdinvsudilov: not really, that is the fix for that problem05:29
sstchurSo I managed to get KDE4 running, but where the taskbar would normally be I get two blocks that say "This object could not be created."  What is that, and how might I resolve it?05:29
aaronoh goodie i got Adept to work05:29
thomas_2: yea the jr approach basically what all windows users would think05:29
FlatfenderOi, now it wont let me open my external hard disk... I'm having one of those nights05:29
Jucatosstchur: What is that? it's called "beta quality software" :)05:29
_2even on boxes that i do setup sudo on i use it to allow special apps to be ran by special people not make anyone a root jr.05:29
ubuntuaaron: Gret help me to connect to a wireless without Knetworkmanager05:30
thomasaaron: i'm so happy for you lol05:30
ubuntuwhich is an idiot :)05:30
sstchurJucato: well, sure i expected as much... but I'm wondering what is supposed to be there, and if there is anything I can do to "help it" be there?05:30
thomas_2: how do you do that??05:30
will_can anyone reccomend a good cd burning software ?05:30
_2thomas you edit the sudoesr file05:30
vsudilovstdin: thanks, I'll try it now ;)05:30
thomas_2: run differnet apps for different people and modify other seciruty settings....Its definetely not in the user management thing05:31
_2thomas you should read up on that,  man sudoers05:31
stdinsstchur: no, nothing you can do05:31
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sstchurstdin: ok... do you know what objects it's talking about?05:31
Jucatosstchur: well, practically, what's there is the non-functional k menu icon and a clock, which you can't really get unless you compile some more plasmoids from SVN, which you wouldn't be really able to do unless you compile all of KDE 4 from svn05:31
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sstchurJucato: ah ok, that's what I was wondering, thanks05:31
stdinsstchur: (unless you download and compile trunk/playground/base from kde's svn repo)05:31
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_2thomas and   man sudo    for the basic concepts   then it's a simple as specifying the  user and the things you want to let them do.05:32
sstchurstdin: no problem, that's all i wanted to know... thanks guys05:32
stdinJucato: but notice how  concise i was :P05:32
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:32
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thomasman sudo05:32
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thomas_2: ok i have some reading to do then05:32
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thomasthank you all for now05:33
ubuntudoesn't look so appetizing now does he?05:33
ubuntuBye thomas!05:33
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Jucatostdin: you have the room. out for lunch :)05:33
ubuntustdin: Help :)05:33
stdinJucato: man, you just got here :p05:33
manikfoxanyone get a good desktop affect working with nvidia?05:33
Jucatostdin: woke up late. I'm sick. so give me a break, ok? :P05:34
_2such as letting some users mount and umount a special device, without prompting for a password while not allowing others to mount it at all.05:34
stdinJucato: fine, but you owe me one :)05:34
FlatfenderWhat would cause my Ext. hard disk to work before and not now? I can see it but can't access it05:34
Jucatohm... I thought I owe you a whole month? :)05:34
stdinubuntu: why can't you use knetworkmanager?05:34
ubuntustdin: it reaches to configure device and fails05:35
ubuntuI've had this before05:35
cashHow I can remove VMware if I was setup software by the ./conf... I didnt see packages in adept manager and synapticks ....And when I try to use aptitude -remove ,aptitude trying to remove all K-applications =( what I should doing ?05:35
stdinJucato: thanks for reminding me ;)05:35
ubuntu it will only connect to networks with a Key05:35
ubuntu this one is open05:35
stdinubuntu: it should work without a key, it'll only use one if it detects it's encrypted05:36
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ubuntustdin: yes I realise that but It's not connected05:36
ubuntuThough it must have been since I logged into IM05:37
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ubuntuIn anycase right clicking and choosing the AP starts the dialog which stops at configuring device05:37
cashwhy no one answer to me =((  ?05:38
_2Jucato and what's wrong with seeing me when you come in to the channel ?     or was that just a "gouge" ?05:38
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ubuntucash: How did you install05:38
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cashI was download archive ,untar it and the next write ./configure... in the directrory05:39
cashand was follow the steps - means was choose directories for modules,libs,docs and etc ...05:40
ubuntu_2: hi Sir Binary05:40
ubuntustdin: in anycase how do I connect from the command line?05:40
ubuntustdin: in anycase how do I connect from the command line?05:40
cashNow when I try to check and type "locate vmware" I see that I have server and player... But I cant to remove that =(((05:41
stdinubuntu: like "sudo iwconfig eth1 essid Name mode managed ap XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX" then "sudo dhclient eth1"05:42
_2ubuntu  :)05:42
FlatfenderOK, it reads it, but I think its not mounting here is the error I get hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 100005:43
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ubuntu_Good evening Admiral_Chicago!!05:45
ubuntu_Great to be here!05:46
cashubuntu_may be U help me ?05:46
ubuntu_cash: Sure what with?05:46
cashubuntu_How I can remove VMware if I was setup software by the ./conf... I didnt see packages in adept manager and synapticks ....And when I try to use aptitude -remove ,aptitude trying to remove all K-applications =( what I should doing ?05:46
cashubuntu_Now when I try to check and type "locate vmware" I see that I have server and player... But I cant to remove that =(((05:46
ubuntu_cash: what is the ./conf ?05:46
_2cash if you didn't delete the source dir  cd into it and    sudo make uninstall05:47
cashFor Vmware server it was vmware-install.pl fro example05:47
cash_2 it is not working .I try but it is says that no one applications exist with name vmware05:48
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ubuntu_cash: umm05:48
ubuntu_did you compile it?05:48
cashubuntu_yes I do that )05:49
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ubuntu_cash: Ok well then in the folder type sudo make uninstall05:50
FlatfenderOK, I give up, what do I need to do to use this drive again?05:50
cashsec .I recheck again05:50
ubuntu_Flatfender: Whats up?05:51
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cashubuntu_sudo apt-get remove vmware ///E: Couldn't find package vmware05:51
FlatfenderNot even 15 minutes ago my external drive worked great, now when I plug it in hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000 is the error that it gives me05:52
DaSkreechcash: you compiled it to install it apt-get doesn't know that it exosts05:52
DaSkreechFlatfender: Umm USB?05:52
_2i'm having a thought,   and it's very painful05:52
FlatfenderYes, USB DaSkreech05:52
cashDaSkreech but How I can remove that ?05:52
DaSkreechcash: do you still have the folder that you compiled it in?05:53
_2cash if you didn't delete the source dir  cd into it and      sudo make uninstall05:53
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cash_2DaSkreechmake: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'.  Stop.05:53
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_2cash well check the scripts in that dir and see if any provide an uninstall / remove  option05:54
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cash_2 looking05:55
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_2cash   grep 'uninstall' *05:55
FlatfenderWould an apt-get install update help?05:55
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FlatfenderOr maybe without the install..05:56
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cash_2  I have many messages05:57
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DaSkreechFlatfender: apt-get update &7 sudo apt-get upgrade :)06:00
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stdin&7 ? :p06:01
FlatfenderJust finished that and still get the same problem :/06:01
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DaSkreechFlatfender: sorry && not &706:03
ubotuThere are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications06:04
ubotuVirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox06:04
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inaetyhello for some reason the Server list from Konversation isnt closing even after i hit close.  it seems to be not responding since the actualy close button in the right hand corner is mising06:06
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_2inaety xkill06:10
_2alt+esc ?06:10
_2ctrl+esc ?06:10
inaety_2: oddly enough File > Server List made it respond06:12
_2i can't immagine why...06:13
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Jucatoinaety: are you using compiz or beryl?06:20
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_2mkboot    Fatal: No images have been defined.06:23
DaSkreechok how do I connect my multimedia keys to the speaker?06:25
_2duct tape ?06:25
_2khotkeys ?06:26
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DaSkreechI don't get khotkeys06:26
DaSkreechand the wiki says it's in regional and accesibilty06:26
DaSkreech!enter | DaSkreech06:26
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sanst_  06:35
Jucato!ru | sanst_06:35
ubotusanst_:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke06:35
Jucatobeat yah :P06:36
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sanst_ :-P06:38
inaetyJucato: compiz-fusion06:38
Jucatoinaety: that's a known bug in Konversation I think06:39
Jucatowhen used with compiz06:39
inaetyJucato: oh okay whatever06:39
inaetyi found a fix for it06:39
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inaetywell kinda06:39
Jucatooh ok whatever...06:39
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ubotu#ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes06:40
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kmultimedia - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:47
DaSkreechDumb bot06:47
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 06:47
eagles0513875!aptfix |ubotu06:47
ubotuubotu: please see above06:47
DaSkreechJucato: I set a !kmultimedia factoid06:47
DaSkreechbut seeing as how everything I teach it gets deleted...06:48
JucatoDaSkreech: are you an editor?06:48
stdinDaSkreech: you talked about it in -ops06:48
DaSkreechJucato: Nope :) but I've only had one change stick06:48
Jucatoif you're not an ubotu editor, then your factoids really won't get in06:49
DaSkreecharen't they submitted?06:49
Jucatofor review? yes. but I haven't seen yours since I logged in. might have done it earlier06:49
stdinDaSkreech: they get sent to -ops, then they decide (helps if you join after submitting)06:50
DaSkreechstdin: I do that sometimes06:50
stdinJucato: was yesterday (Sep 08 03:25:58 GMT+1)06:50
Jucatoah ok. wasn't here06:50
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DaSkreechstdin: Oh neat it's logged shoudl I still join?06:51
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stdinDaSkreech: send it again, then join (i got that from my logs)06:52
DaSkreechI was wondering about that06:52
DaSkreechstdin: I don't recall what I put :)06:52
DaSkreechI know it was helpful06:52
stdinSep 08 03:25:58 <ubotu> In #kubuntu, DaSkreech said: !kmultimedia is Trying to get your Multimedia keyboard working in KDE? No Problem take a look at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys06:52
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Jucatomight not be the best trigger for the factoid...06:52
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Jucatomultimedia keys or keys probably...06:53
stdinDaSkreech: you'll want to use <reply> too, or it will show as "<ubotu> kmultimedia is Trying to get...."06:53
Jucatoif you don't mind, just !keys and only to be seen in #kubuntu?06:54
DaSkreechso it's !factoid <reply> instead of !factoid is ?06:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about keys - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:54
DaSkreechIs there an gnomie one already06:54
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Jucatonope. but I doubt they'd need that in #ubuntu :)06:54
DaSkreechthere is a gnomie page as well I could just build a dual factoid and be done with it06:55
Jucatoso !keys would be ok?06:55
stdinDaSkreech: they can make it so it says one thing in here and another in #ubuntu06:55
stdinall hail the power of ubotu06:56
DaSkreechstdin: I know. I just like to raise the KDE profile a bit if I can :)06:56
DaSkreechKDE? what's that06:56
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Jucatoif no one objects?06:56
stdinahh, they have !kde !kubuntu and !k3b :)06:56
DaSkreechstdin: Yeah I know but someone looking to fix  problem sees a KDE mention and starts asking questions06:57
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DaSkreechJucato: I can live with keys06:57
ubotuTrying to get your Multimedia keyboard working in KDE? No Problem take a look at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys06:57
ubotuUbuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications06:57
DaSkreechalready taken06:57
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Jucatohm... I made a boo-boo...06:58
Jucatothere, !keys only in #kubuntu06:59
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DaSkreechNow if only that page helped me :-(07:01
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manikfoxanyone know how to fix the slow motion sound bug???07:03
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ironfroggyis there anyway to install an image directly to a drive from windows?07:10
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DaSkreechironfroggy: say that again in different owrds07:10
PerseidOK. Problems getting the nvidia driver to work. I'm paraphrasing this: "API Mismatch: Nvidia kernel module has version 1.0-7184 but X module has 1.0-9755"07:11
holycowhe wants to effectivelly dd an iso to a partition from windows07:11
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.07:11
ardchoillePerseid: Did you install the nvidia drivers via the wiki page?07:11
holycowironfroggy: the answer is no07:11
holycowinstall it properly07:11
ironfroggyi cant get my cd burner to work properly07:12
DaSkreechironfroggy: yes there is07:12
ironfroggyi think a windows installer for kubuntu would be great07:12
ubotuwubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html07:12
ironfroggyjust dump an image to the drive07:12
holycowit would highly depend on your partition layout07:12
Jucatowarning on the "unofficial"...07:12
holycowyou will need to replace your bootloader with grub07:12
ironfroggyits a different drive07:12
ironfroggyi hate grub07:13
ironfroggynever works for me07:13
holycowand you would need to then have a partitioned drive to dump an image to ...07:13
Perseidardchoille: You mean the binarydrivershowto? Yes, and restricted-manager installs the wrong package. It says I need nvidia-glx when I am pretty sure that with a 7900Gt I need nvidia-glx-new07:13
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holycowDaSkreech: thats an interesting article, thanks07:14
holycowgrub always works for me, but then i can go in and fix anything necessary07:14
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DaSkreechJucato: can we add that link into Wubi ?07:15
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ardchoillePerseid: Restricted manager? Isn't that a gnome app?07:20
PerseidI don't know. Someone here recommended I install it last time I was here.07:21
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Jucatoardchoille: we'll have that in Kubuntu in Gutsy07:21
ardchoillePerseid: I recommend you follow the nvidia how to and don't install anything unless it tells you to07:21
Jucatobut on feisty it's GNOME/Ubuntu, but you can still use it07:21
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:22
ironfroggywubi's progress bar is broken07:22
ironfroggyit gets to about 90% and then starts downloading the ISO07:22
ardchoillePerseid: Disregard my last.. it seems the instructions have changed since I last installed nvidia. It only takes me two commands and about 20 secs to get it installed. I can't see why anyone would use a gui for that.07:23
PerseidI don't seem to have this System/Administration/Restricted Devices Manager the wiki page talks about07:24
ardchoillePerseid: Which card do you have?07:25
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ardchoilleGeForce 7900 GT/GTO is supported07:25
ardchoillePerseid: All I did was  "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"  and edit xorg, then restart x and I was in business.07:26
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ardchoilleThat'll likely change, tho07:27
PerseidYes, and when I do that X doesn't start.07:27
ardchoilleSounds like you installed the wrong module07:27
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PerseidWhen you say edit xorg you mean change nv to nvidia, right?07:28
ardchoilleyes, but I do it with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and let that do the work.07:29
ardchoilleTakes care of nvidia and screen res all in one shot07:29
PerseidThe drop down selected nv. Pick nvidia instead?07:29
ardchoilleIF you have already installed the nvidia drives, that is07:30
PerseidTo double check a 7900GT uses nvidia-glx-new right?07:31
ardchoilleI have no idea but I don't see why it can't use nvidia-glx. the -new is just for a newer version of the driver.07:31
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ardchoillePerseid:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#troubleshooting07:32
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ardchoillePerseid: You also need to read the section on "Install and activate drivers" on the nvidia page to make sure you have the correct kernel modules installed.07:33
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ardchoilleHmm.. that page has changed quite a bit since I started using nvisi whenDapper came out.07:34
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tarntow_Always having sound suddenly gone...is there a way of fixing this apart from rebooting everytime but still can happen again?07:37
ardchoilletarntow_: Are you turning your sound up full?07:38
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP307:38
tarntow_yes...it usually happens when the volume is full or high07:38
ardchoilleSame thing happens with me too.07:38
tarntow_ubotu: what would be the equivalent to 'enable the sound system' in ubuntu? cheers07:39
PerseidOK. Reboot time. :)07:39
ardchoillePerseid: Wait07:39
ardchoille!bot | tarntow_07:39
ubotutarntow_: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots07:40
ardchoillePerseid: You're rebooting for what? nvidia drivers?07:40
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ardchoilleNo need to reboot.. Just open a term and "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"  but be aware that will kill all kde apps because xorg is being restarted.07:41
Perseidok. Thanks.07:41
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ardchoillePerseid: Really don't need to reboot for much at all unless you're doing kernel work07:41
tarntow_ubotu: ok i'll have a good read with these links....thx07:42
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PerseidOK. I'm back. Same error.07:49
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PerseidAPI mismatch - nvidia kernel module has v 1.0-7184 but x module has 1.0.975507:49
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djdarkmanhy, what program is in the background that misconfigures my network all the time?07:50
ubotuAutomatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)07:50
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souslHello, how can i run konqueror as root?07:54
ardchoille!info libdvdcss207:54
ubotulibdvdcss2: Simple foundation for reading DVDs - runtime libraries. In component extras, is optional. Version 1.2.9-0.0ubuntu6 (feisty-seveas), package size 33 kB, installed size 112 kB07:54
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brendonjthey ya all07:55
PerseidHow do you check what kernel you're running?07:55
brendonjtusing gutsy here on my main computer in fact it is my main computer and I haven't had a problem yet07:56
stdinPerseid: uname -r07:56
PerseidOK. I uninstalled all the nvidia and restricted drivers then installed just nvidia-new-glx. It installed restricted modules for 2.6.20-15 even though I'm on
holycowwould anyone know if konqueror is multithreded?07:57
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Biovoreholycow: I don't think it is..07:59
brendonjtholycow: hmm not sure there07:59
PerseidOK. Never mind that last bit.07:59
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PerseidStill no love on the nvidia drivers.08:05
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brendonjtok try ubuntuguide they have alot of good stuff on there08:06
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Kein!adeptfix > Kein08:12
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Seek_Therapyok...i need help my internet is running really really slow and i have cable08:22
holycowtoo many people in your neighbourhood sharing your connection08:23
holycowwait a few hours08:23
Seek_Therapywhatever i paid extra for higher speed08:24
holycowgoogle up bandwidth testers and check out your connection08:24
Seek_Therapycan i boot the others08:24
holycowyou do understand that high speed is a scam right?08:24
holycowyou can pay whatever you want, they have still oversubscribed your connection08:24
Seek_Therapynope! I fell for it08:24
holycowyou aren't guaranteed disk on cable08:24
Seek_Therapyno dick here08:25
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Seek_Therapylet me check...Nope08:25
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Seek_Therapywhat happens if i ping
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digitalraowhats sup08:34
NickPresta!hi | digitalrao08:34
ubotudigitalrao: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!08:34
digitalraoanyone know whats going on with Yahoo Chat?08:34
ksivajiping will request the to retransmit bytes as send by source08:34
NickPrestadigitalrao, what do you mean?08:34
Seek_Therapy also their socks2http08:34
digitalraoone of my friends i cant get into Yaho chat08:35
digitalraoyou sent a ping?08:35
NickPrestaIs thisa Kubuntu problem?08:35
digitalraoits yahoo08:35
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digitalraoim just trying to find info that is it08:35
NickPrestawhich IM Client?08:36
PerseidWoot! I have 3-D now. If any of you are curious, this was my problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20/+bug/10621708:36
Seek_Therapysomeone in physics told me thats the governments ip08:36
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Seek_TherapyI think he is treasing08:36
PerseidThanks for the help. I'll probably be back again eventually for something or other.08:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about firefox3 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:37
ksivajianyone know when firefox 3 wil be available for download08:38
stdinksivaji: it's only at now08:39
hangthedj_serveri think right now firefox 3 is gran parisma...something08:40
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ksivajistdin firefox 3 is going to be released soon with sophisticated features08:40
ksivajistdin i got the error report for game the hangs my system08:41
maverickcould someone please remind with the command to uninstall application from source08:42
ksivajistdin http://pastebin.com/d2e4a9c4708:42
stdinmaverick: normally "sudo make uninstall"08:42
maverickstdin: thnx08:43
maverickstdin: didn't find it in make --help08:43
ksivajimaverick need not thank him he is our saviour08:43
ksivajistdin : any idea08:44
stdinhmm, last error before segfault was "ealsa_blitbuffer: Could not write audio data to sound device: Input/output error"08:44
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stdinsomething to do with alsa maybe..08:44
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stdinksivaji: what's in /home/sivaji/.vdrift/logs/ ?08:45
ksivaji 5 empty fils08:45
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elzbalQuick question about apt... My partly-downloaded feisty-backports/universe Packages.gz seems corrupt. gzip throws errors during apt-get/aptitude update. I'm guessing I should delete the file so I can get a full download. Where is it?08:46
stdinelzbal: it'll be in /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ probably08:47
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ksivajielzbal /var/cache/apt/archives/partial08:48
elzbalstdin: Thanks, it was there. Deleted, and updated like a champ.08:48
stdinksivaji: if you don't mind another crash, try running "vdrift -verbose" to get more info08:48
elzbalAnd thanks to you too, ksivaji.  :)08:48
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PerseidThe drives in my /dev keep chaging. /dev/sdd1 and /dev/sdc2 keep flipping to /dev/sdc1 and /dev/sdd2. They work if I change the fstab but they keep changing and I have to edit the fstab again08:49
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stdinPerseid: that's why we use UUIDs now08:50
mikedomolets go brothers Kubuntu power :D08:50
PerseidHow do I get it to generate them? It did for some of them when I upgraded but not all.08:51
elzbalPerseid: My fstab has entries like this:    UUID=9a4d5ac7-e21e-4cf4-895a-07be002437b4 /boot ....08:51
ksivajistdin it goes beyond the console memory08:51
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stdinksivaji: you can use: ' script -c "vdrift -verbose" output ' to save it to a file08:51
elzbalPerseid: google tells me you can do this:   sudo vol_id -u device08:52
Perseidelzbal: Cool. Thanks.08:52
elzbalNo problem. (It looks odd to me too.  :)08:53
ubotuTo see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  sudo blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)08:53
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Perseidstdin: That didn't list my ntfs devices08:54
vovkavhi! Is there anyone who had managed to get his ali1535 (AC'97-like) softmodem working with alsa?08:54
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stdinPerseid: should do08:55
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ksivajistdin :08:58
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paulc87have any of you installed kde4 beta 2?09:02
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elzbalpaulc87: I tried. It didn't do much.09:02
elzbalpaulc87: I couldn't get plasma to work, nor could I log into a session.09:02
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paulc87i see09:03
paulc87i was just wanting to play around with it09:03
paulc87didnt know if it was worth installing09:03
elzbal(But I'm on amd64, so that might be a different story than what most people experience)09:03
stdinprobably not09:03
paulc87i installed the i386 version09:03
paulc87amd64 seemed to be very slow09:04
elzbalI wouldn't trust kde4b2 for, well, much, but it's probably worth installing and checking out.  :)09:04
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kaminix2How would I make this line not give me any ugly output? (it's complaining about the scriptfile not being a directory etc...) for i in * ; do md5sum "$i"/*flac >> "$i"/checksum.md5sum ; done09:08
stdinksivaji: yeah, seems to be something to do with alsa. the game was probably compiled against a version that's too old now09:08
ksivajistdin what is alsa09:08
stdinkaminix2: you're not quoting the variables right, use ${VAR} not "$VAR"09:09
hangthedj_server!alsa | ksivaji09:09
ubotuksivaji: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP309:09
stdinksivaji: it's the sound system09:10
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hangthedj_serverksivaji: advanced linux sound architecture09:10
kaminix2stdin: Would that remove the output about spawn_checksums (script in the same directory) not being a directory? Everything else works fine.09:10
ksivajistdin see line 50 in pastebin  "Upgrade your graphics card!"  what does it meas09:10
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ksivajihangthedj_server : thanx09:11
ksivajistdin  thanx09:11
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stdinkaminix2: well md5sum "$i"/*flac >> "$i"/checksum.md5sum would translate to (if i was foo) md5sum "foo"/*flac >> "foo"/checksum.md5sum09:12
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elzbalPrelinking on Feisty: Good idea or no? (I've always prelinked before, but I saw one resource indicating it might not do much for Feisty)09:14
PerseidWow. This is very confusing. All of the NTFS UUIDs are smaller, like CC30CD4730CD38EA. Is ff98cdfa-d0a9-4527-aa04-544a6868ba3c the linux partition?09:15
stdinkaminix2: it may be better to do: for i in $(find . -maxdepth 0 -type d) ; do md5sum "$i"/*flac >> "$i"/checksum.md5sum ; done too09:15
kaminix2stdin: That's what I want. :) The thing is that in the folder I run the script I have all my folders that are going to be md5summed plus the scriptfile, meaning it will try to do <scriptfile>/*flac >> <scriptfile>/checksum.md5sum and md5sum -c <scriptfile>/checksum.md5sum, both which give an ugly error output. Can I somehow turn the output off?09:15
kaminix2What will for i in $(find . -maxdepth 0 -type d) do?09:15
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stdinkaminix2: "find . -maxdepth 0 -type d" will print a list off all the directories in the current directory :)09:16
stdinkaminix2: (and only directories)09:17
kaminix2Nice, will try that. Thanks. :)09:17
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ksivajistdin  sound system works fine09:18
stdinksivaji: but the game was probably compiled against a version that's too old now09:18
kaminix2stdin: Gives the output: md5sum: ./*flac: No such file or directory09:18
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PerseidWow. When I upgraded to feisty it detected CC30CD4730CD38EA as my linux /, which is wrong. CC30CD4730CD38EA is actually the second partition which is NTFS. So now I have CC30CD4730CD38EA listed twice in fstab. Once for / and once for the NTFS drive.09:19
stdinkaminix2: ahh, well it counts the current directory09:19
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PerseidIt works ine like this.09:19
kaminix2stdin: But it does not make checksums for the other dir either. :s09:20
stdinkaminix2: try "find . -maxdepth 1 -type d"09:20
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PerseidBut now I'm afraid that when I reboot and it goes to mount / things are going to blow up.09:21
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prakdoes anyone know how to figure out which version of Linux kernel used?09:21
ksivajiprak uname -a09:21
ksivajicat /proc/version09:22
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ksivaji lsb_release -a09:22
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ksivajiprak :09:22
kaminix2stdin: It takes every word in the folder name as a dir now. If the folder name was "A B - C D"  it would see A, B, -, C and D as five different directories09:23
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hangthedj_serveruname -r will give you only the kernel release instead of all the other stuff09:23
prakthanks, ksivaji09:23
stdinkaminix2: ahh, well spaces are evil for scripts09:23
dmbkiwiis anyone else having trouble getting a kde4 beta2 session working?09:23
dmbkiwiseems that /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde is missing from the beta 2 packages09:23
elzbaldmbkiwi: It didnt work for me either.09:24
kaminix2stdin: If I don't have the spaces there it will be useless or I will have to ugglifie my entire music collection. :s09:24
stdindmbkiwi: _read_ the release announcement09:24
elzbaldmbkiwi: I *do* have a startkde though.09:24
kaminix2stdin: Is there no way to just tell the script that I don't want to see any output from my original line?09:26
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stdinkaminix2: you see there's a special variable called IFS, it contains a list of "field separators", they tell commands what to interpret as separators (between commands and arguments), and one of those is a space09:27
dmbkiwielzbal: I've read the announcement.  Had it working fine for beta1.  Did you upgrade from beta1?09:27
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stdinkaminix2: slap a &>/dev/null on the end of the md5sum command to hide all errors tho09:27
elzbaldmbkiwi: No. New install on a fairly new Feisty box. I'm on amd64, so my situation may be different from yours09:28
stdindmbkiwi: if you read it, it tells you what new package you need to install09:28
kaminix2stdin: I tried the &>/dev/null at the end, but then it didn't create the md5sum files at all. :s09:28
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stdinkaminix2: ok, put 2>/dev/null then09:29
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kaminix2stdin: What does 2> mean?09:29
stdinkaminix2: it's a file descriptor number, 0 = stdin, 1 = stdout, 2 = stderr09:30
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stdinall errors go to stderr (standard error)09:30
kaminix2It worked! I love you! ^^09:31
kaminix2Thanks :)09:31
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ardchoillestdin: http://ardchoille.pastebin.us/3943509:31
stdinheh, nice :)09:32
ardchoilleI wrote that because I couldn't find a decent gui/cli app that does it.09:33
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dmbkiwistdin: ah - good point. Missed that :)  Thanks09:34
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stdinardchoille: I'm tempted to make that in to a c++ app now, just so I can practice09:36
ardchoillestdin: Really? Cool :)09:37
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ardchoillestdin: Would probably be nice to have a gui for those who don't like cli apps. Someone should write a decent md5sum/sha1sum gui app and put it in the repos.09:37
stdinardchoille: someone should, but that won't be me :p I'm still on my 1st book of c++09:38
ardchoillestdin: ghasher and awesum are gnome apps but they aren't in the repos.09:38
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ardchoillestdin: lol09:38
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kaminix2Can the lame encoder read .flac? /me's mp3-player is bad with ogg09:39
emjafor some unknown reason my knetworkmanager applet can no longer see any wireless networks, yet iwlist shows them fine. I've uninstalled and reinstalled knetworkmanager, but no joy. any pointers?09:40
emjais there a better GUI network manager I should be using? others I've tried don't seem to support WPA, only WEP09:40
ardchoillestdin: One thing I just noticed about my sum script.. there's no check for the existence of the sum report prior to asking the use of they want to save it.09:41
stdinkaminix2: I think lame can only read wav/raw audio09:41
kaminix2Well that's lame. :(09:41
ardchoillekaminix2: nice pun09:41
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titanix88Everyone silent?09:55
ubunturoswell, hello titanix88 :)09:56
hangthedj_server!hi | titanix8809:56
ubotutitanix88: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!09:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about date - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:56
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mauriI have a problem with acetoneiso10:01
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BadRobothi there does anyone knows which distro has disk rescue?10:02
BadRobot and what is the iso burn for winxp?10:02
holycowdisk rescue? you mean dd?10:02
BadRobotfree ones10:03
holycowevery distro10:03
BadRobotopen source10:03
BadRobotkubuntu doesn't have one10:03
BadRoboti've the original cd from conical10:03
holycowwhat SPECIFICALLY do you mean disc rescue?10:03
holycowsounds like you expect ubuntu to have some whizbang gui like on windows that you warezd?10:04
BadRobotmy system is broken and i don't to go back to winxp10:04
BadRoboti mean i don't want10:04
holycowso mount the hd/partition and copy files over10:04
BadRobotpls smart friendly people ,i am crying out for help10:04
holycowi'm giving you the answers10:04
holycowyour not even showing interest10:05
ubunturosBadRobot: what caused the breakdown and what is broken exacvtly?10:05
holycowi would recommend you set aside the xp hd first and install ubuntu onto another hd10:05
holycowthen what you can do is mount the xp hd, copy your media and doc files over10:05
holycowand toast the rest10:05
BadRobotbut i've a laptop10:06
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holycowokay sounds like your most important function is to backup all your data10:06
holycow#1 yo uwon't be repairing a winxp install with a linux distro10:06
holycowit just doesn't work that way10:06
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holycow#2 you can however use a live cd to backup your data first before doing anything10:07
holycowi would recommend that highly before trying anything else10:07
holycowonce you have your data backed up you have tons of options10:07
holycow#3 would be to reinstall xp over top of it self, that is the best way to rescue your system10:07
BadRoboti have all backup already onto a external HDD10:07
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holycowokay so whats the problem then?10:08
BadRobotis it there any to install it via external HDD10:08
holycowyou then have easy choices10:08
holycowreinstall xp over top of it self10:08
holycowinstall ubuntu10:08
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holycowsince you don't haveto worry about data loss, which of those steps are you tripping up on?10:08
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holycowinstall what via external hdd?10:09
holycowyou mean your backed up copy of xp?10:09
holycowthat would depend on the software that backed up your xp10:09
holycowif it made an image of a known good working xp partition scheme, perhaps. but that is rather complicated.10:09
holycowwhy arent you just reinstalling xp over top of it self?10:10
holycowand using that software to reconstitute the data from external hdd?10:10
holycowyou did everything correct so far10:10
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holycowif you reinstall xp over top of it self, you don't even haveto format,  you have options to keep the data or just 'fix' xp10:11
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holycowyes no maybe?10:11
holycowi'm doing all the typing here so i'm going to stop trying to help.10:12
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hangthedj_serverare we trouble shooting windows in #kubuntu?10:12
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holycowno, having a hard time with a noob not wanting to listen to solid advice about how to fix his box10:13
ubotuAcronyms or statements like  noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.10:13
bloody_hi all, i have an nvidia gforce 7300/7200 graphic card, how do i install the driver?10:13
jussi01Hmmm, where is the menu file for grub kept again?10:13
ardchoille!nvidia | bloody_10:13
ubotubloody_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:13
stdinjussi01: /boot/grub10:14
BadRoboti am waiting10:14
holycowah jesus not again10:14
BadRobotsorry i just have a screaming child over here10:14
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holycowoh thats okay10:14
ardchoilleBadRobot: That's ok.. we get those in here too, lol10:14
BadRobotand it is burning my neurons off10:14
holycowBadRobot: why not just reinstall xp over top of it self tho?10:15
holycowand use that backup app to bring back your data in worst case scenario10:15
BadRobotyep,i  could try it,i've the winxp sp2 cd10:15
holycowthat will save you all the headache10:15
BadRobotbut i have tried the original disk rescue and it didn't work10:15
holycowthen you can either wipe the xp install with a kubuntu install or do a dual boot10:15
jussi01thanks stdin10:15
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holycowBadRobot: linux typically can fix very specific technical issues10:16
holycowsystem wide issues where there are systems withing systems and co dependencies ...10:16
BadRobotthe problem is that it fails/stops to install after 60%10:16
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents10:16
holycowyou would be using the wrong tool for the job10:16
holycowreinstall than we will help you install kubuntu10:16
holycowhangthedj_server: they aren't asking for help with windows10:16
BadRoboti mean the Kubuntu,and it is a origanal Kubuntu cd form cononical10:17
holycowi'm offering it as a diplomatic hand so they don't end up blaming kubuntu community for the error10:17
BadRoboti mean I have got it from the shipit10:17
holycowwhat does the kubuntu cd haveto do with xp?10:17
hangthedj_servermostly i just like what ubotu has to say about windows10:17
holycowyou said you were trying to get that running10:17
holycowexplain once again what you are trying to do?10:18
BadRoboti don't think it is kubuntu's fault10:18
BadRoboti've had it on this laptop before10:18
holycowi really have no clue what you are trying to fix10:18
holycowBadRobot: i really don't mean to be a jerk10:18
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holycowi've typed like a thousand lines here already10:18
BadRoboti am trying to put kubuntu back'10:18
holycowso help me please10:18
BadRobotto the laptop10:18
holycowdefinewhat you want10:18
holycowjust reinstall10:19
holycowwhy fix?10:19
stdinBadRobot: are you saying the kubuntu install fails/stops after 60% ?10:19
BadRobotbut i have had other distro after kubuntu.first i had Kubuntu ,then fedora , pcbsd and now i would to go back to kubuntu10:20
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BadRobotYep i am saying the install fails/stop after 60% of the isntall10:20
ardchoilleAnyone know why Tasty Menu isn't in the repos? It's a nice menu app I think: http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/5171/tastymenugv6.jpg10:21
mauriI have a problem with acetoneiso10:21
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holycowstdin: you continue, clearly you have a better knack for this particular item10:22
swanflhi all. How do I download gutsy to see kde 4.0 beta 2? or should I install feisty and then upgrade the repository list?10:23
stdinswanfl: see the topic10:23
stdinholycow: can't I need to go to seep :p10:23
ardchoilleswanfl: Mixing repos isn't a good idea.10:23
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swanflit's ok, ardchoille, I'm testing it in vmware10:25
swanflI normally run gentoo but considering a switch10:25
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ardchoilleswanfl: I'd try gentoo but I can't find libpatience, lol10:26
holycowhehe :)10:26
holycow i completely understand10:26
bloody_is any way to change my default internet manager?, i'm having problems with konqueror and kopete10:27
bloody_i'm not using ethernet or wifi, i'm using an usb modem to have internet10:27
swanfldo you remember the joke that says it always take 3days to install gentoo? it's not so bad now. It only takes 2 and a half days :)10:27
ardchoillebloody_: Open kcontrol, then go to KDE Components -> Default Applications  and have a look at that list.10:28
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ardchoilleswanfl: hahaha10:28
combinioi have installed many programms via AUTOMATIX, will they be working if i remove automatix ?? :}10:28
mauriI have a problem with acetoneiso10:28
ardchoillebloody_: Not sure if that's what you want but you can try and see.10:28
holycowcombinio: yes BUT10:28
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holycowthey won't work after you upgrade10:28
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holycowyou should NEVER use automatix10:29
combinioholycow: but what ?? ;>10:29
ubotuAutomatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)10:29
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combinioholycow: way?10:29
ardchoillecombinio: If you've used automatix, your system may already be broken or waiting to10:29
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combiniothanks autom. i have lot of programms that i should never have without it ;P10:29
combiniofor example non-free codec and archive tool (winrar, unzip, etc.)10:29
ardchoillerubbish, anything automatix can do, you can do if you read a bit10:30
holycowautomatix does nothing for you10:30
combinioardchoille: so how u installed codecs and archive tools ? ;>10:30
radekhello, please how can I restart my PCMCIA wlan0 card?10:30
holycowyou can do everything with standard repos10:30
holycowifdown wlan010:30
holycowifup wlan010:30
ardchoille!seveas | combinio10:30
ubotucombinio: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages10:30
bloody_well, it looks like it can help, just that i can't change my default internet connection10:30
combinioholycow: sure i can but where can i get names of those programms from ?10:30
bloody_is just a little usb modem attached to one of my usb ports10:30
Mr_Sonomacombinio, how do you figure? i have non free codecs10:30
radek<holycow> thanx10:30
holycowcombinio: *sigh*10:31
holycowcombinio: let me put it this way10:31
combinioMr_Sonoma: there is lot of these codecs... how can i know their names10:31
bloody_so how can i make that connection my default, because i can't use konqueror or kopete10:31
holycowexpereiienced users are giving you advice10:31
holycowlook at the number of people in this channel10:31
combiniobut now - even if i remove automatix my system still might broke10:31
maurihow can I mount a dvd iso image10:31
bloody_let die automatix10:31
holycowif the data on the bot says not to use automatix10:31
swanflok folks, I'll probably be back later for help in upgrading to try kde410:31
bloody_i had problems once10:31
holycowdon't you think its there for a good reason?10:31
combinio'so none of u use automatix ?!10:31
Mr_Sonomacombinio, ask around or google. people in here are 99% of the time more than willing to help10:32
bloody_a lot of libraries where destroyed or missing10:32
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bloody_and some of them depended from others and i had to reinstall all kubuntu10:32
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combinioand they says it works well :/ it is recommended on many ubuntu sites :/10:32
ardchoillecombinio: I used it once, a year ago.. it trashed my system, haven't used it since and I can still do everything automatix can.10:32
holycowbloody_: after using it  you haveto reinstall10:32
holycowthats the problem with automatix10:32
combinioi feel cheated :/10:32
Mr_Sonomacombinio, no i do not and will not10:32
holycowyou don't know what it broke and there is no way of fixing it10:32
holycowcombinio: absolutely10:33
holycowcombinio: all they had to do was create a repo10:33
holycowand provide some metapackages for all that stuff10:33
holycowcombinio: not only did they hose you10:33
combinioso if it so dangerous for OS why they let people to download that shit ?10:33
bloody_oh i see, well, i'm not using it anymore, the way of linux is awesome, if you can't from one way there's always a lot of ways10:33
holycowthey made their job VERY hard10:33
bloody_to install what you want, that's the good part10:33
holycowcombinio: thats the cost of freedom10:33
combinioso i'm going back to window$ ;P10:33
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:33
bloody_why combinio10:33
holycowfor example, i am pretty much an opinionated asshole10:33
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bloody_believe me, here in mexico, all uses windows10:34
radek<holycow> one question please, do you know command for restart PCMCIA bus?10:34
combiniojussi01: thanks for that bt just a little to late :] 10:34
holycowyou REALLY don't want me to be telling you what you can or can't install on your box :)10:34
bloody_but i discovered the power10:34
Mr_Sonomaewwwwwwwwww someone said windows!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! get it off my screen!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *grin*10:34
jussi01combinio: probably, i only just looked at the discussion10:34
combinioactually no... cuz soon there is comming Gutsy10:34
bloody_to have an open source OS it's amazing10:34
combinioso if i reinstall my system...10:34
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!10:34
combiniowait a sec... i have one question10:35
ardchoillecombinio: whether or not you reinstall, always come here for help. This is the best channel for *buntu support that I've ever seen.10:35
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holycowubuntu is good too10:35
holycowthis is a kubuntu channel specifically10:35
bloody_if i put in proxy settings autodetec proxy, maybe i can connect from my usb modem? or that's not a good idea?10:36
holycowgoogle your usb modem, i don't know if your particular one will be supported10:36
combinionow i have Feisty - "/" and "/home" - on different partitions. how can i install gutsy so my home folder will stay untouched ??10:36
holycowwhat would a proxy setting haveto do with a modem?10:36
combiniois this possible ?10:37
holycowyour modem will simply connect you to your isps network and hand you a dhcp address10:37
holycowproxying usually has nothing to do with it10:37
holycowcombinio: during install just leave the home partition alone10:37
ardchoillecombinio: Keep in mind that Gutsy is beta and problems should be expected. Also join #ubuntu+1 for Gusty help.10:37
Seek_TherapyOk how do i editing /etc/hosts by adding the host name to
holycowi would just recommend you back it up10:37
bloody_well, back to firefox again xD10:37
bloody_or can i uninstall konqueror and reinstall it?10:38
combinioardchoille: not now... just in December...10:38
holycowSeek_Therapy: sudo nano /etc/hosts ... is that what you are looking for?10:38
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BadRobotYep Automatix is evil10:38
ardchoillecombinio: Oh, you should be ok by then10:38
combinioand how to check out is my system crashed ??10:38
BadRobotit has destroied my laptop10:38
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combinioholycow: thanks for answer... i just dont want to lose all my data saved in /home folder :] 10:39
Seek_Therapythats what i am trying to do10:39
holycowcombinio: well what you REALLY want to do ...10:40
holycowis load up a live cd and copy your home dir to external storage device10:40
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combinioholycow: i don't know what u mean :P10:40
combiniowhat is this external storage device ?10:40
combinioi just want to have a Gutsy in december with my /home foder ;P10:41
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holycowcombinio: usb disk10:43
holycowexternal hard drive10:43
combiniooh that way10:43
holycowwell its the easiest10:43
bloody_is there any way to configure a multimedia keyboard?10:43
holycowthere are lots of other ways10:43
combiniobut... my home folder is about 60 GB so i'm not sure where i can get such big USB disc :D10:43
holycowi DID say external hard drive10:44
holycowman you know, i'm getting too old to do tech support10:44
holycowi fricking hate repeating my self10:44
holycowdude no offense i mean this in the nicest way possible10:44
bloody_i have volume control keys, but when y push the up volume only goes to 10% it doesn't past to 20% xD10:44
holycowi KNOW you speak spanish primarily10:44
holycowbut i am going to stop helping right now, your pissing me off10:44
mikedomognu/linux power10:45
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bloody_holycow, is it better to have kubuntu in a notebook that in a desktop?10:46
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mikedomowell i have kubuntu in a desktop10:46
mikedomorun me very fast10:47
bloody_cuz i have a new desktop man10:47
bloody_and well you know, linux lover xD10:47
holycowbloody_: well it doesn't matter really10:47
bloody_o i see10:47
holycowtypically laptops have a bit more specialized hardware10:47
holycowso there are more components that won't work10:47
mikedomolinux is very fast in the aplications amazing10:47
holycowthings like finger scanners, i don't know if those ar supported10:48
bloody_i thought that the chipsets and all that's stuff can make an easy way for drivers10:48
phrahi - running kubuntu on some newer laptops can be painfull10:48
holycowbloody_: if you stick with intel right now, yes you will have most things work out of the box10:48
phraex. Acer laptops of a friend: no sound, no wifi :-/10:48
holycowfinger scanner is not controlled by chipset10:48
holycowneither are onboard laptop cameras10:48
mikedomoyou have the reason in the laptops the software is more specialicism and some times the kernle dont have some drivers10:48
holycownor are touch screen, or keyboard lights and things like that10:48
bloody_or the port to conect a projector :(10:48
holycowso you haveto just be aware, it WILL work but a few bits and pieces will either require a bit of work or wont work10:49
holycowand thats okay10:49
holycowno port projectors work10:49
bloody_i had to expose at class, but i couldn't install the that port10:49
phrai can recommend using linux-distros on older but high-quality laptops, like IBM T4110:49
holycowif you have a supported video chipset, say nvidia or intel10:49
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holycowyou just haveto configure your xorg.conf file10:49
holycowi've made it work on many laptops10:49
bloody_yeah, i saw something about layout in my laptop right?10:49
holycowperipherals will typically work provided you reserached ahead of purchasing10:50
holycowbloody_: roughly yes10:50
holycowbloody_: we can do basically anything windows can and then some10:50
holycowwe just don't have tons of nice guis for everything10:50
holycowso it can be done but until we get a gui for xorg (in gutsy i hear) you will haveto do it by hand10:50
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bloody_yeah you're right, as you can imagine, is weird here in mexico to find someone using linux10:51
holycowwhat phra says is good advice although i just bought this:10:51
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Mr_Sonomaxorg is going to have a gui in Gutsy?10:51
bloody_yeah, i found i guide, and it tolds me to copy exactly my screen configuration10:51
bloody_and just modifiy the screenlayout10:51
holycowthe only things that don't work on that are the keyboard light (yet, working on it) and finger scanner (working on it)10:52
holycowother than that it works perfect10:52
holycowi just had to find a utility that calibrates the touchscreen and that works too10:52
holycowof course xrandr lets us re-orient the display too10:52
bloody_yeah, well, in my laptop(dell inspiron 9400) kubuntu works amazing10:52
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maurihow can I mount a dvd iso image10:52
holycowan di have button shortcuts programmed to run shell scripts that do this automatically10:53
holycowso its not like you can't get new laptops to work10:53
holycowstick with intel and you should be fine on laptops10:53
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter10:53
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bloody_well that's true, yeah, like dell works with intel, i don't have any windows xp or vista10:53
phra@holycow: your little machine, looks amazing - unfortunately $1600 is a lot of money compared to a used IBM T40 for EUR400 :-)10:54
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holycowphra: sure, but this is also the size of my hand10:54
holycowi carry it everywhere10:54
bloody_and like i'm studying computer's system engineer, well i can program with netbeans or eclipse and anjuta10:54
holycowi can sit and eat dinner with it and code without having to move my dinner aside :)10:55
holycowthere is a trade off10:55
holycowbloody_: cool10:55
bloody_i really love kubuntu, thanks for the informative talk holycow10:55
ardchoilleholycow: When I get into a computer project, food takes a back seat.10:55
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phraholycow: as always, it seems that these nice devices are for the japanese market :-/10:56
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bloody_how can i change from root to my user10:57
hangthedj_servermauri: make a dir like /home/*/iso then sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop /path/to/iso /home/*/iso10:57
bloody_no no wait10:57
bloody_the correct question is10:57
bloody_how can i uninstall an aplication10:57
ardchoillebloody_: sudo apt-get remove app_name10:58
phrabloody: have you checked the Ubuntu/Kubuntu FAQs?10:58
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ardchoillebloody_: If you want to completely remove it and its deps: sudo apt-get remove --purge --auto-remove app_name10:58
bloody_i screwed my yakuake installation using sudo yakuake10:58
Seek_TherapyIs mexico fixing their corrupted government10:59
bloody_and all of my command lines appears as root10:59
bloody_all of us are gonna die that way10:59
maurihangthedj_server: cosi dici che parte in automatico kaffeine10:59
Seek_Therapyor is it still ran by the cartel10:59
phraregarding fingerprint-readers, I would always suggest to encrypt the data on the harddrive (ENCFS, Truecrypt) since the data will be available, when the harddrive is attached to another computer10:59
hangthedj_servermauri: ?10:59
holycowphra: no. thats incorrect10:59
holycowall this stuff comes out in japan first11:00
holycowthen it makes its way here11:00
holycowthose will be available in north america next year11:00
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Seek_Therapyjust curious11:00
phrayeah - but I live in good old germany :-) all these nice Sharp devices that were able to run linux never made it to germany.11:00
bloody_i really don't pay a lot of attention to the goverment here11:00
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bloody_but i guess yes11:00
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holycowphra: i'm actually thinking of striking a deal with these folks11:01
holycowand offering a linux preinstalled version with everything working11:01
maurihangthedj_server: sorry,....by your suggestion, do you think that kaffeine will play automatically?11:01
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hangthedjmauri: i don't think so.  if you don't have anything in your cd/dvd drive you can always mount the iso at /media/cdrom0 and it might open automatically or at least give you an option11:02
Seek_TherapyI hear the mexican cartel is making HUGE money on crystal meth11:03
maurihangthedj: thanks11:03
maurii will try11:03
Seek_Therapythats great !11:03
bloody_holycow, i have an amd 64 bits dual core processor, and i installed kubuntu ff 64bits, do you know if it really take advantage of all?11:03
holycowwell depends what you mean11:04
phraholycow: would be cool - but for most people it would be enough to preinstalled linux on laptops like the T40s.11:04
holycowfor compiling and rendering 3d animation yes11:04
holycowmaybe for doing 2d compositing too11:04
holycowbut for almostnothing else, no11:04
bloody_oo thanks holycow, xD11:04
holycowmost apps aren't capable of using 64 bit'ness11:04
holycowmost apps arent even multithreaded!11:04
holycowfirefox for example is single threaded, and they intend on keeping it that way11:05
holycowdespite the fact that we are having multicore cpus now standard11:05
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holycowthat goes for windows world too btw11:05
holycowand all other oses11:05
holycowfor regular users, they just don't do things that can use 64 bit cpus offer11:05
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bloody_lol xD, well i used ubuntu 32bits for a while but i have a problem, i had to choose from 2 ways11:05
bloody_1.- to watch videos11:05
holycowunless they compile, do 3d rendering, 2d compositing or something specialized like that11:05
bloody_or 2.- to have compiz-fusion11:06
holycowi use only 32 bit, i have absolutely no need for 64 bit11:06
holycow64 bit won't really help you in either of those situations11:06
holycowcompiz is mostly handled by your video card11:06
Seek_Therapymaybe you can try crystal meth too bloody_....I hear is wonderful for people11:06
holycowyour cpu does dick to handle compiz11:06
bloody_thanks seek11:06
holycowsecond watching videos, your video players are not coded to use 64 bit cpus i'm almost certain of it11:07
holycowthere simply is no need for them to do so to begin with11:07
Seek_Therapydo what ?11:07
bloody_o thanks holy, so i have to have a better graphic card on my notebook? :P11:07
bloody_cuz it's from the chipset what i have now11:07
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Seek_Therapyf13gma ..I bet you know libor<giggles>11:10
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bloody_why i don't have administration in my system folder11:11
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bloody_holycow, if my video card it's and Nvidia GeForce 7300 GS/ 7200 TC what driver should i use, cuz, i can't see my video card on the list11:17
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llutzbloody_: 7300GS works fine with nvidia-glx-new here11:18
holycowi don't know the answer to that, i have only bought intel stuff for about a year now11:18
bloody_a ok thanks11:18
bloody_llutz but in the box11:18
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bloody_of my video card it says 720011:18
bloody_so there's no problem? it has a red dragon and says zogis xd11:18
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llutzbloody_: no idea, sorry. ask "lspci" which chipset you really have. but i guess -glx-new should be fine for 7300 and 720011:19
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Pinkyhaving trouble with sound11:20
bloody_that's wath appeared11:20
bloody_02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 01d3 (rev a1)11:20
holycoweither that or wait until gutsy, that should have latest nvidia drivers11:20
Pinkyanyone know how to fix sound issues11:22
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bloody_llutz how can i enter to administration, cuz in system doesn't appear11:22
Pinkyi have no sound11:22
llutzbloody_: kdesu kcontrol11:23
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Pinkyi have 2 sound cards, 1 is unsupported and the other is a HD audio card11:24
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Pinkya lspci finds them, but using the sound controller gui can't find any devices11:25
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bloody_llutz once installed the driver what should i do?11:26
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bloody_should i reboot the x?11:27
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llutzbloody_: change "driver" in xorg.conf to nvidia and keep your fingers crossed, that it works11:27
bloody_haha thanks man11:27
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bsd007vashHi, anyone here know how to install this http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=65767&forumpage=011:28
llutzbloody_: i heard a lot guys had trouble with it, i haven't had any.11:28
bloody_well, let's see how it works for me, i hope it don't crash xD11:29
llutzbloody_: keep a backup of your working xorg.conf11:29
bloody_what was the command? :P11:29
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llutzbloody_: sudo cp /etc/X11xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup11:30
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=== xp_killer i just had a nightmare :/
xp_killerllutz: wa is the xorg file for?what info it shows?11:31
bloody_hey llutz11:31
bloody_so then i have to change this?11:32
bloody_driver "nv to driver "nvidia"?11:32
llutzxp_killer: xorg.conf is the configuration-file for xorg, surprise11:32
llutzbloody_: yes11:32
bloody_thanks man11:32
bloody_wish me luck xD11:32
xp_killerxorg surprise?11:33
bloody_no, he said surprise cuz it's all of your devices configurations11:33
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allooshhi, how do I allow shh services11:34
emilsedghalloosh: sudo apt-get install openssh11:35
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Pinkyno one know how to fix sound with two sound cards?11:36
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bloody_llutz, how can i know if it worked?11:36
llutzbloody_: restart X11:36
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bloody_i did it :P11:37
llutzbloody_: glxinfo |grep render11:37
bloody_but i don't know how much resolution can i use with this video card11:37
bloody_direct rendering: Yes11:37
bloody_OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 7300 SE/PCI/SSE211:37
bloody_    GL_NVX_conditional_render, GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap, GL_SGIS_texture_lod,11:37
bloody_check dude, that appeared11:37
Seek_Therapypinky what version of linux are you running11:37
Pinkyfiesty fawn11:38
bloody_is that correct llutz?11:38
llutzbloody_: so it worked.11:38
Seek_Therapywhat brand sound card11:38
allooshI want to be able to connect to my kubuntu machine from other machines, what do i need to install?11:38
Pinkyone is Creative X-Fi, the other is one that came with my p5n32-e motherboard11:39
Pinkyi know x-fi isn't supported, so i'm trying to use the motherboard one11:39
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mimagycLink for the french support ?11:40
llutzbloody_: to change resolution, you have to edit xorg.conf, "section Screen", Subsection Display", there the "Modes" line11:41
llutz!fr | mimagyc11:41
ubotumimagyc: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.11:41
bloody_thanks llutz11:41
bloody_now the compiz-fusion part xD11:41
bloody_thanks llutz11:41
llutzbloody_: forget about that useless stuff :)11:41
allooshhi, how do I activate the ssh?11:41
bloody_about compiz-fusion?:P11:42
llutzbloody_: yes11:42
bloody_it looks nice man xD11:42
llutzbloody_: it's like playboy-models: nice to see but without any use11:42
Seek_Therapyhave you checked your drivers11:43
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mimagycce ou pour le francais ?11:43
mimagycbonjour ^^11:43
bloody_hahaha xD11:44
mimagycje n'ai aps le lien pour le support en francais ...?11:44
pag!fr | mimagyc11:44
ubotumimagyc: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.11:44
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llutzmimagyc: type "/j #kubuntu-fr"  to join11:45
Seek_Therapywhy not stick around and learn english11:45
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xp_killeralloosh: check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto and choose your option,but i tink wat u looking for is how to11:47
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bloody_how do i install mp3 codecs?, with libxine1-ffmpeg?11:52
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llutzbloody_: sudo aptitude install libxine-extracodecs11:53
yu_aidercan anybody help me with my usb ports refusing to work after a random period of time?11:53
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bloody_thanks, and the other command i gave you, what is it for man?11:53
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llutzbloody_: what command?11:54
bloody_sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg11:54
llutzbloody_: nearly the same11:54
Seek_Therapydo you have your drivers installed? stupid question but11:54
bloody_what from both is better man11:54
llutzbloody_: libxine-extracodecs installs a few more needed codecs11:54
yu_aidernobody can help me about my usb issues :(11:55
bloody_thanks man11:56
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xp_killeryu_aider: i dont know your problem with your usb port.u can try this link11:59
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vprintsdoes anyone know why the daily langpacks don't work ?12:05
vprints(for gutsy)12:05
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Black_Monkeyhi, I just installed beta 2 on feisty, but I don't seem to have the kde4 versions of apps like kopete, konversation (even after installing kde4network) and kicker12:11
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bloody_hi i have just installed beryl xD but i can't see my windows borders xD12:13
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bloody_what should i do? O_o12:13
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bloody_i can't see my windows borders xD12:14
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dereinehi all12:16
xp_killerbloody_: your what?12:18
emilsedgh!hi | dereine12:18
ubotudereine: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!12:18
dereineit is possible to have 2 kontrol-panels with different size?12:18
xp_killerdereine: yes12:18
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jussi01!compiz | bloody_12:19
ubotubloody_: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects12:19
xp_killerdereine: right click your panel then add the type of panel u want12:19
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walkoverhey! does anyone know how to make kde use double click instead of single click when using icons12:19
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dereinekcontrol -> mouse12:20
dereineand there the first tab12:21
dereineso i added one kontrol-panel12:21
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dereinebut how can i change the height12:21
walkoverthanks! dont know why i did'nt see it the first time12:22
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dereineanother question when i active the KDE-Decorator with Compiz-Fusion the window-decoration is displayed wrong12:22
xp_killerdereine: right clic panel config choos the leingt u want12:23
djdarkmanhy, I have a serious problem, kde`s network configuration panel doesn`t do things right, what should I use?12:23
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dereineperhaps restart the network with : sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart12:24
xp_killerdereine: i dont use compiz check #ubuntu-effects for help12:24
dereinei have 2 kontrolpanels but i can only change the first one12:25
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Allooshasking again, I have ssh installed, but I cant connect to my machine from other machines using vnc, what should I so ?12:25
AllooshI also dont see the ssh in the services.12:26
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emilsedghAlloosh: do you want to setup e remote desktop? why you need ssh? for vnc?12:28
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xp_killerAlloosh: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=ssh&titlesearch=Titles ssh https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=vnc&titlesearch=Titles vnc check it out to see if it helps12:30
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tobias_anyone can tell me why I cant compile pingus? I extracted the files but when I want to ./configure it says there is no such file or directory - but I am in the right directory - so what gives ?12:30
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Allooshemilsedgh: I want to be able to reach my computer from other machines, so vnc is fine12:30
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emilsedghAlloosh: vnc needs ssh? i dont think so...?12:31
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llutzAlloosh: to use vnc remote you need a running vnc-server locally12:31
Allooshwell, let me put it like that, I want to be able to reach my desktop while iam not here:)12:32
tobias_okay, problem fixed, I need to use "scons" - but wtf is that? ._.12:32
SergemineGuys, Dear Ubuntu/Linux GURUs, what is your favourite KDE download manager? or best KDE/Gnome download manager. 'Cause the symple yet good KGET takes 120% of my CPU !! PLS suggest a good one12:33
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emilsedghSergemine: I think there is a new one in kde-apps12:37
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Sergemineemilsedgh, would that one be compiled for Ubuntu?12:38
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emilsedghSergemine: I dont know, let me find it first, if it was good i will try to compile and make a package for feisty12:39
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Sergemineemilsedgh, WOW! thank you so much!!!12:40
tobias_mhm I tried to compile scons 0.97 - and scons worked fine but when I want to install it via "sudo scons install" it just says:12:43
tobias_scons: *** Do not know how to make target `install'.  Stop.12:43
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mimagycje cherhce a pouvoir lire un dvd sous kubuntu12:44
mimagyccomment procd, il me fait une erreur12:44
mimagycil me mank un module12:44
llutz!fr | mimagyc12:45
ubotumimagyc: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:45
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emilsedgh_Sergemine: thats Doka12:48
emilsedgh_Sergemine: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/doKa?content=5174712:49
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Sergemineemilsedgh_ , thank you very much! I don't see it in Ubuntu repos. will search for a deb12:52
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ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto12:54
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emilsedgh___Sergemine: i tried to compile doka, its current version is not clean, many problems...I suggest you to use d4x (Downloader4X) and wait for kde401:01
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Sergemineemilsedgh_ , =) thank again. And I am waiting for KDE4 already!01:02
emilsedghSergemine: everybody is :)01:02
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Ace2016Hi all01:27
Ace2016does anyone else have a folder called: /dev/.static/dev/01:27
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waylandbillAce2016: yup01:30
Ryielguys, I've got a new philips mp3 player (portable flash drive), and ubuntu does not recognize it or does not mount it. Any idea?01:30
Ace2016ok just wondering because rkhunter found them01:30
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devianceRyiel: Search the name of it and linux in google and you will find some forums of people who have had the same problem, then see what their answer was01:42
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jussi01Hei all, can someone tell me how to figure out where in /dev a usb device is?01:52
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Ace2016jussi01: it should be /dev/sd* e.g mine are /dev/sda1, but if you have sata hard drives they'll show up as sd* too so it might be sdb or sdc01:57
jussi01Ace2016: no, just a usb device01:58
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Ace2016yea they show up as sd* even my camera shows up like that02:03
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jussi01Ace2016: its not a starge device. its a modem02:04
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tattersanyone sync 2 machines with koffice data ??02:06
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llutzjussi01: look for /dev/usb/ttyACM*02:07
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Ace2016jussi01: sorry i seem to have confused you the person asking about the mp3 player02:16
jussi01hehe, ok02:16
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Ace2016what modem is it? sometimes you have to compile and install driver modules02:18
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ubunturoswould Kubuntu 7.10 be shipped using shipit?02:21
jussi01Ace2016: yes, I do have to. Ineed the information for that.02:23
ironfroggyhas anyone else used the wubi installer?02:23
jussi01ubunturos: I would say so, yes. when it comes out02:23
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ubunturosjussi01: umm, hope so.02:23
Ace2016well you could drist upgrade to it02:24
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ubuntu_Buenas necesito ayuda con kubuntu fesity fawm02:28
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eddjc3hi all02:29
aaronhello guys02:29
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aaronanyone on02:30
eddjc3is there a way of getting kubuntu to start without loading kubuntu desktop (i.e. in command line only?)02:30
jussi01!es | ubuntu_02:30
ubotuubuntu_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.02:30
ubotuKubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE02:31
ubunturoseddjc3: you mean just the console?02:31
ubuntu_ok gracias02:31
ubuntu_ok thanks02:31
eddjc3ubunturos: yep02:31
ubunturoseddjc3: when you get the login screen, you'll see "Menu" button. Click on it and choose console login02:32
aaroneddjc3: check out the FAQs on kubuntu.com02:32
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eddjc3won't that still have loaded the graphic interface though02:32
ubunturoseddjc3: or you could press CTRL + ALT + F102:32
ubunturoseddjc3: only on tty702:32
aaronserial port 702:33
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eddjc3I'm not sure I understand...02:34
eddjc3I'll try those things though02:34
hismajestyhow could we kill a bloqued window02:34
llutzhismajesty: xkill, ctrl-alt-exc02:35
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harmental80hey guys...how can i change mu login face in kubuntu?02:35
harmental80"about me" seems not to be working properly02:35
coder_newbiehi togehter02:36
aaronharmental: oh sorry i thought u meant Konversation02:36
hismajestyi have some pb with the visual effect02:37
hismajestyand my beryl does'nt work02:37
hismajestywhat should i do?02:37
llutzhismajesty: uninstall that useless crap02:37
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aaronharmental80: Go to the start menu> System Settings> About Me> and click the button next to your name for pictures02:38
harmental80i've already tried that...02:38
harmental80but my login image does not change...02:38
hismajestywhat is the crap?02:38
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coder_newbieI have a question where could I search for other IRC Server ? could anybody help me pls ... sorry for my bad english :-(02:40
eddjc3hey all02:40
eddjc3bnack again02:40
eddjc3CTRL + ALT + F1 is an interseting one - how do you return to the KDE desktop when after you've used it?02:40
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llutz CTRL + ALT + F702:41
eddjc3(sorry re: spelling)02:41
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llutzand no, tty7 is NO serial port :)02:42
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aarontty7 is a VIRTUAL CONSOLE port, or if u have actually 8 serial ports on your comp, its a serial COM port02:43
dummzeuchCan anybody help me with a dual monitor setup on an ATI Radeon 9200 SE?02:43
aarondummzeuch whats wrong with it02:44
llutzaaron: tht would be ttyS7, not tty702:44
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dummzeuchI have one monitor connected to the VGA the other connected to the DVI port of the card.02:44
aaronhmm seems like my 1 day linux experience is failing me, lol02:44
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aaroni just got Kubuntu yesturday02:45
dummzeuchI only get the same picture on both monitors but want to extend the desktop over both.02:45
aaronhmm let me look it up02:45
llutzdummzeuch: enable xinerama02:45
dummzeuchllutz: Any hint on how to do that? Link?02:45
dummzeuch(I already tried Google)02:46
eddjc3i see aaron - thanks02:46
llutzdummzeuch: Option "xinerama" "true" in "Serverflags" or maybe read the manpage for your graphicsdriver, it might have an own Option for it02:46
dummzeuchllutz: Already tried that.02:47
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dummzeuchIs it even possible with that card?02:47
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aaronnew color02:48
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dummzeuchTrying to define two devices always gets me an error regarding PCI-1:0:102:48
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eddjc3hey all - anyone know anything about vsftpd? on trying to run it I get '500 OOPS: could not bind listening IPv4 socket'02:49
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aarondummzeuch: did you set up your bios to have both the intergrated card and the external card to be on??02:49
llutzdummzeuch: already read http://tonywhitmore.co.uk/blog/2006/02/07/dual-head-on-ati-radeon-9200-se-under-ubuntu/ ?02:50
dummzeuchaaron: There is only one card.02:50
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aarondidnt know that02:50
dummzeuchaaron: That's why I asked whether it is even possible02:50
dummzeuchllutz: Yes, I tried that yesterday. Got the error re PCI:1:0:102:51
aarondid you set the video output on your bios to that card?02:51
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aaronnot to the Intergrated, that is what messed mine up02:52
dummzeuchaaron: I don't have an on board card. I get a picture on both monitors, but it's the same picture.02:52
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llutzdummzeuch: tried "clone "off""02:53
dummzeuchllutz: where?02:53
llutzdummzeuch: Section ServerLayout02:53
dummzeuchllutz: I'll try that, thanks02:55
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eddjc3hey all - anyone know anything about vsftpd? on trying to run it I get '500 OOPS: could not bind listening IPv4 socket'02:56
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tattersmaybe it already running?02:57
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eddjc3i don't think so - how can I check?02:58
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tatters /etc/init.d/vsftpd restart  probably02:59
llutzeddjc3: ps -e02:59
tattersim a noob   soooo only little help03:00
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eddjc3thanks llutz03:01
eddjc3no - it's not already running03:01
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llutzeddjc3: you try vstfpd via xinetd?03:03
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tattersI set up unison and ssh to try to sync my laptop and desktop which both have kofice installed,finding it difficult to know what to filter out and what to include, anyone synca a laptop n desktop?03:04
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llutztatters: i only sync documents etc. not configs. they are in an own directory-tree, so it's easy to sync them03:06
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tattersI actually wouuld have thought this would be a common scenario contacts,scheules,e-mail etc but seems its not03:06
eddjc3tatters: that one worked thanks!03:07
eddjc3llutz: how do you do that?03:07
BluesKajHowdy All03:07
tattershey my first triumph happy to have        helped03:07
llutzeddjc3: i'm using rsnyc03:07
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eddjc3llutz:eh? I mean how do you use vsftpd with xinetd?03:09
llutzeddjc3: that was only a question, but if you don't know how, you don't use it :)03:09
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eddjc3fair enough:-)03:10
eddjc3What would be the benefit?03:10
llutzeddjc3: it's just a different way to handle services and maybe a source of your error-message03:11
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eddjc3I see03:12
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mordetojest ktos kto sie zna na linuxie bardzo dobrze??03:14
mordetoi moze mi pomuc??03:14
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llutz!pl | mordeto03:14
ubotumordeto: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl03:15
mordetothx llutz :)03:15
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StoneNewtI'm going insane, I remember there's a whole section dealing with the use of  restrictedformats specifically for kubuntu/kde rather than ubuntu/gnome but I'll be damned ifI can find it! Can anyone point me in the right direction?03:16
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tom_hi all, ive got a few questions about usb automounting03:23
tom_1st- how do i get a luks encrypted usb stick to automount?03:23
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tom_2nd, how can i get it to run a command when it is mounted?03:31
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:33
StoneNewtwhere the hell are the kubuntu specific instructionscause those things don't work :S03:34
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eddjc3hey all - anyonw know where apache's log files are kept?03:37
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drifeddjc3: check /var/log/apache03:38
BluesKajStoneNewt, accessing restricted formats is done by editing the sources.list and adding the repositories containing the restricted format pkgs ...it's best done at source-o-matic :http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/03:39
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eddjc3ahah - thanks drif!03:40
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drifeddjc3: np03:41
ownerHo =)03:42
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khaije1what the kde developers channel?03:42
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JawaltI have a quick question....How do I edit .list files?03:42
JawaltIm trying to install java ,but I need to add entries to a .list file to apt-get it03:43
emilsedgh_#kde-devel #kde4-devel, khaije103:43
khaije1thx emilsedgh_03:43
khaije1Jawalt: are you talking about adding repo's to your source.list file?03:43
BluesKajJawalt, which .list file ?03:43
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khaije1Jawalt: it's a normal text file so you can use whatever you prefer, are you aware of your options?03:44
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BluesKajaltkdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list03:44
JawaltAtm Im trying to use Kate ,but it opens as an empty file03:44
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JawaltAhh I got it03:45
JawaltOpened from terminal instead of GUI03:45
khaije1Jawalt: if you're using adept you can edit your source.list file from in there also03:46
khaije1only thing is it's an important file, so pay attention to detail when you work with it03:46
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BluesKajone can always re-edit sources.list file , rather than trying to foll with adept which can be abit clunky03:48
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JawaltIt says I cant save sources.list03:49
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BluesKajJawalt, you have to use' kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list 'command to open it , it asks for your password then you can save changes03:51
JawaltOh thanks03:51
BluesKajalt+F2 , kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list03:51
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JawaltAnyone know a good guide on installing java that one didn't work03:53
j1solutionshelllo all03:54
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drifJawalt: try 'sudo update-alternatives --configure java' and set correct version03:55
j1solutionscomment: I used kubuntu as my main desktop system about 2 years ago, it looks much better now.  I bought a Vista box about 6 months ago, i'm thinking to wipe vista and install kubuntu03:55
drifJawalt: also javac if you need to compile03:55
bjwebbcan i do anything with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key other than reboot more nicely?03:56
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JawaltDrif the first command did not work03:57
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JawaltIt didn't recognize --configure java03:57
j1solutionsvista is horrid03:57
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drifJawalt: sorry --config03:57
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bomberj1solutions, is that surprising... another fine microsoft release03:58
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j1solutionsit is, honestly.  I'm a big supporter of FOSS, but WindowsXP has become a mature product on the desktop03:59
j1solutionsand worked just fine for me03:59
JawaltI liked 98 ,and XP microsoft versions ,but lately everything they do is crap03:59
j1solutionsvista was a huge step backwards03:59
j1solutionsperformance is even horrid04:00
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j1solutionsi'm MS trained and certified-  no more of that04:00
j1solutionsvista is the first step to the long slide down for MS04:00
j1solutionsso i guess that is a good thing04:00
JawaltThat didnt do much drif04:01
bomberno doubt04:01
JawaltDrif that brought up 2 selections neither of which worked04:02
drifJawalt: did it give you alternatives to choose from?04:02
drifJawalt: and furthermore, you never explained 'how' your java isn't working..04:02
JawaltYes 204:02
JawaltIts just not working it says its uninstaleld after the installation04:02
bjwebbJawalt: java needs you to agree to something iirc04:03
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bjwebbor maybe that was the old version04:03
JawaltI wish this was as simple as firefox install04:04
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Jawalti just 'apt-get firefox' or similar ,and it got it04:04
bjwebbif my graphics freeze, is there anything i can do with "Magic SysRq key" other than a nice reboot?04:05
BluesKajJawalt, after editing the sources lis and adding repositories that contain the packages , you do a 'sudo apt-get update in the konsole , then you can use adept or apt to install the java pkg04:05
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BluesKajyes the sources.list is not the file that contains the pkgs04:05
BluesKajit only has the addresses to the repositories that contain the pkges04:06
JawaltAhh I don't think the repositories I got work04:06
BluesKaje you ehow did you try to install java04:06
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JawaltI went to the java website downloaded and followed the instructions04:07
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tom_howcan i get kde to run a command whenever i insert my usb stick?04:09
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khaije1when i try to './configure' kmymoney2 to build from source, it says it can't find the kde headers...  on ubuntu how do i get this?04:10
BluesKajwell, what's the state of your java apps then ?04:11
JawaltI don't know how do i tell?04:11
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JawaltSorry Im a total nub to Linux04:12
BluesKajrelogin and open adept , then enter java , to see which versions are installed04:12
BluesKajenter java in the searchbox04:12
llutzkhaije1:  you need kde-devel04:12
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khaije1llutz: this tell's me i have about 8 different unmet dependencies...04:13
JawaltOk well it says Java GJC compat dec for one04:14
llutzkhaije1: then you will have to install them too04:14
Jawaltand java gjc compat for another04:14
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shokhello all..i have a problem..im trying to install something and in the log file i get that the c compiler cannot create executable files..how can i fix this?04:16
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JawaltWas ending the current session enough or shoukd I reboot?04:16
llutzshok: install build-essential04:16
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shoktanks llutz04:16
SlimGHow do I find out how much free space I have left the gui way? (instead of: df -h)04:17
emilsedghSlimG: right click on your partition from /media and go ro ptoperties->Meta Info04:17
JawaltI ended the current session and relogged04:18
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SlimGemilsedgh: Isn't there a quicker/"more integrated" way to do it?04:19
llutzSlimG: df -h :)04:19
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emilsedghSlimG: there are a few programs, I think the namw kdiskfree and kwikdisk is something like this, let me find04:19
BluesKajJawalt, open adept, and type java in the searchbar..it will generate a list and show what java related pkgs are installed , particularly look for java-common and j2re1.404:19
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emilsedghSlimG: install kdf from adept04:20
JawaltJava common appeared ,but not j2re1.404:20
SlimGemilsedgh: I've used the app you speak of, but I don't want to start a separate app just to tell me how much diskspace I have left04:20
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BluesKajJawalt, find j2re1.4 and  choose it to install , then click on apply04:21
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Jucato!cn | gdzhljw04:21
ubotugdzhljw: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk04:21
llutzSlimG: i guess this is a "historical" Problem. user don't need to know that, disk-quotas etc. are admins job04:21
emilsedghSlimG: so use the first method!04:22
JucatoTopic: FAQ: Free Disk Space http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3086353.004:22
unclephreak   this place again04:22
khaije1llutz: i'm guessing that the problem is that the latest version 'kdelibs4c2a' doesn't have a compatible '-dev' version04:22
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Jucatokhaije1: kdelibs-dev04:22
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LeeJunFanwow, that sucks. I upgraded to gutsy and apparently debmirror is broke and wiped out my mirror of feisty and gutsy.04:23
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JawaltBluesKaj its not there04:23
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kalorin`why does USB copies from a flash reader eat like 200% of my CPU ?04:23
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lnxi have installed some Gstream codecs , and now i can see MMS only in konq ( work well ) but in firefox i see grey screen what i can do ?04:24
kalorin`on a dual core system even!04:24
khaije1Jucato: no love there, it tells me to install kdelibs4-dev instead, which is fine but then that one depends on a older version of kdelibs4c2a than what i have04:24
unclephreakyou know the most stable kubuntu ive ever installed was to install ubuntu on my computer then the kde window manager cos i dont think they have the kubuntu package as set as they want it. and it runs faster04:25
BluesKajJawalt, close adept and open the konsole , in the konsole type , sudo apt-get update04:25
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eddjc3hey all - what's a good command line for renaming all files that have .JPG on the end to .jpg?04:25
Jucatokhaije1: this is on feisty?04:25
JawaltBluesKaj maybe the places I got for the downloads are out of date or soemthing?04:25
Jucatokhaije1: what version of KDE?04:25
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BluesKajJawalt, the last command i just gave you will update for you04:26
JawaltOk done04:26
unclephreakubuntu rocks if you dont like the user friendly stuff04:26
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kalorin`OMG you ain't got slow and CPU hog like copying via usb on this system04:27
kalorin`no idea why04:27
unclephreakkde is great for geting used to the linux/unix interface04:27
eddjc3hey all - what's a good command line for renaming all files that have .JPG on the end to .jpg?04:27
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BluesKajJawalt, we need to open your sources.list ... alt+f2 , then type, kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list04:27
Jucatokhaije1: can you please use pastebin to show the output of these commands (please use pastebin): "apt-cache policy kdelibs4c2a" and "apt-cache policy kdelibs4-dev"04:28
BluesKajJawalt, copy and paste is easier than typing :)04:28
eddjc3hey all - what's a good command line for renaming all files that have .JPG on the end to .jpg?04:28
Jucato!patience | eddjc304:28
ubotueddjc3: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines04:28
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unclephreakuse the window manager04:29
JawaltGot it BluesKaj04:29
unclephreakuse dolphin04:29
Jucatoeddjc3: if you're interested in a GUI app for that, you can use krename04:29
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eddjc3sorry abou that - I thought my Konversation had seazed up - I reposted on the thought that it didn't send first time04:29
llutzeddjc3: rename 'y/A-Z/a-z/' *.JPG04:29
lnxwhy i cant see MMS in firefox ? ( its wmv movie and i can see it in konq ) ?04:29
kalorin`for x in `find . -name *.JPG`; do mv ${x} ${x/.JPG/.jpg}; done04:29
kalorin`so long as youd on'th ave files with spaces in the names04:29
kalorin`then it gets moret ricky04:29
Jucatounclephreak: he did specify command line04:29
eddjc3ok cool thanks:-)04:30
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kalorin`he just said he wanted the extnesions uppered04:30
BluesKajok Jawalt , now scroll down the sources list till you fins a # in front of repos begiining with 'deb'..take out the #04:30
unclephreaki had it specified on my business card that i dont work well with windows systems04:31
Jucatokalorin`: yes. but at least krename will deal with spaces in the filename...04:31
BluesKajJawalt, there will prolly be just 2 or 304:31
JawaltTheres lots that begind with deb04:31
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BluesKajyes Jawalt , but I mean the one's with #sign04:32
arianehi. i'm having some problems booting kubuntu. i boot my computer, i see the grub thing, i choose kubuntu, it starts loading and then i get this error message " Buffer I/O error on device hda1, logical block and a couple of numbers. after, it tells me "/dev/hda1 contains a file system with errors, check forced and it gives me the same buffer thing again. does anyone know how to fix this and could help me please?04:32
JucatoJawalt: are you on Kubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn?04:32
JawaltNo Im on LTS for some reason the 7.04 didn't feel like working04:32
BluesKaj# prevents the rpository from being used ...it's called commenting out04:32
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unclephreakunix scripting language04:33
BluesKajJucato, any suggestions would be welcome :)04:33
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JawaltOk got it04:34
JawaltI uncommented them04:34
JucatoI don't even know what the problem is... but I'm guessing it has to do with Java and multiverse? :)04:34
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BluesKajcool , now save the file close it04:34
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BluesKajJucato, java04:34
JawaltBlues now what?04:35
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JucatoBluesKaj: wouldn't the package name be sun-java-something?04:36
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BluesKajok, Jawalt now open the console again and do the, sudo apt-get update , again04:36
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BluesKajJucato, I've found that java common and j2re1.4 are sufficient to make java work04:37
Jucatoaccording to packages.ubuntu.com, Dapper has sun-java504:37
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JawaltI play an online game (not runescape) requiring java04:38
BluesKajwell, one can always install sun-java5 or 6 depending on the distro04:38
Jucatohm.. blackdown java? I'm not sure that would work...04:38
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BluesKajJawalt, ok did you sudo apt-get update in the konsole ?04:38
JawaltYa and Im in adept now04:39
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BluesKajwhich kubuntu distro are on , Jawalt ?04:40
Jawalt6.04 I think04:40
Jucato[22:32]  <Jawalt> No Im on LTS for some reason the 7.04 didn't feel like working04:40
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bjwebbJawalt: 6.06 :D04:40
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:40
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BluesKajJawalt, in the konsole type, lsb_release -a04:41
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Jawalt6.06.1 Im installing Jr2e now04:43
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xstAfter an upgrade two days ago I can no longer boot any kernel. Grub returns "Error 15: File not found". Pretty critical What to do?04:45
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about motif - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:46
JawaltI think I got the same thing the other day I fixed it by popping in the install cd and pressing boot form first harddisk04:46
lnxwhy i cant see MMS in firefox ? ( its wmv movie and i can see it in konq ) ?04:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xfree86 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:46
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JawaltAdept refuses to start...04:49
bjwebbdpkg lock?04:50
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 04:50
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JawaltAdept will not start whatsoever04:52
JawaltIll end the session and log back in and try04:52
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Jucato!adeptfix | Jawalt04:52
ubotuJawalt: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 04:52
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JawaltI did...04:53
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Jucatowhat error messages are you getting when you try to start it from Konsole?04:53
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:54
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JawaltAhh ok I can boot through console04:55
combiniohow can i install package manager ?04:55
combinio... called adept04:56
Jucatocombinio: you don't need to.  it's already installed.04:56
combinio( i mean adept-manager :D )04:56
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combinioJucato: but i removed it :] 04:56
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Jucatosudo apt-get install adept04:56
combiniosome man adviced me to do that and update my system manually :D04:56
combinioJucato: thx04:56
combinioJucato: do u use automatix ? ;>04:57
ubotuAutomatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)04:58
j1solutionsanyone know how to enable 3d in kubuntu on an ATI equipped laptop?04:58
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Jucato!ati | j1solutions04:58
ubotuj1solutions: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:58
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JawaltDoes that thing know everything?04:58
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots04:58
combinioJucato: u didn't understand my question... do u use automatix ? ;P04:59
Jucatocombinio: that's my answer for you :)04:59
Jucatothe answer is implied :)04:59
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combinioJucato: so it means u don't ? [;04:59
j1solutionsthanks ubtou04:59
Jucato!thanks | j1solutions04:59
ubotuj1solutions: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)04:59
Jucatocombinio: I don't.05:00
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combinioJucato: thanks the Lord then! cuz i used it all the day since today... and i can't handle with some things.. e.g. how to install archive tools like autom.'s ??05:00
Jucatoarchive tools?05:01
BluesKajJawalt, can you open adept ?05:01
combinio* i mean i used automatix for all my life :D05:01
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combinioJucato: yeap05:01
combiniowinrar, unzip, etc. :)05:01
JawaltYa Blue05:01
combinioin A-matix it is veeery simple05:01
Jucatosudo apt-get install unrar rar05:01
combiniobut without it... no exactly05:01
Jucatonot sure about zip, I think that's already included by default05:01
combinioJucato: oh.... as u can see... it's not everything...05:01
BluesKajautomatix isn't necessary ...it's less work but very dangerous05:02
combiniothere is something more that automatix gave u...05:02
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blablablaPlease help me: http://tinyurl.com/2yu2te05:02
combinioand i don't remember what else should i install to have all archive tools :/05:02
Jucatocombinio: next release, Automatix and EasyUbuntu will practically be obsolete with kubuntu-restricted-extras and restricted-manager-kde05:02
combinioBluesKaj: i made format today because of Automatix :] 05:02
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jhutchins!info rar05:02
Jucatocombinio: sudo apt-get install unrar rar zip unzip05:02
uboturar: Archiver for .rar files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.7b1-2 (feisty), package size 494 kB, installed size 1012 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)05:02
BluesKajJawalt, look for sun-java5 in adept and install it for your games05:03
JawaltJava 6 is there05:03
combinioJucato: ok, thx :)05:03
BluesKajok Jawalt , go for it :)05:03
JucatoBluesKaj: I had a feeling blackdown java wouldn't be enough :)05:03
JawaltSo Im installing that instead ,because I think the other week it stopped supporting 505:03
JucatoJawalt: once you install sun-java5 or 6, run the command "sudo update-alternatives --config java" to choose the default java that the system will use, in this case, the sun version05:04
JawaltAt first I thought it was really hard to install flash and java on linux ,but actually the solution was easy05:04
BluesKajdunno Jucato , i didn't realize Jawalt needed java for gaming ...i don't think in terms of game requit=rements much ...guess I'm just too old :)05:04
JucatoBluesKaj: hm.. he did mention it...05:05
BluesKajyeah , much later tho05:05
Jucato[22:38]  <Jawalt> I play an online game (not runescape) requiring java05:05
Jucato30 minutes ago :P05:05
Jucatoanyway, really need to get some rest... or else all you guys are going to pay for my meds :P05:05
BluesKaji have no excuses , I was in and out of the pc room a lot this morning due to some neighbour hoods stuff going on05:06
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BluesKajnite Jucato05:07
j1solutionsoh well, my radeon is a 7500, not supported05:07
JawaltIm hoping that Ive installed java correctly so the game will run.05:07
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BluesKajlets hope your graphics drivers arte up to it as well , Jawalt05:08
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JawaltSomone I know told me Im lucky I have an nvidia card they said ati are a pain for linux05:08
BluesKajyup, true05:08
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BluesKajj1solutions, yeah , there's a problem with linux support for the radeon 7000 series cards05:09
JawaltAdept gets an error when installing java05:09
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BluesKajJawalt, open the details tab in adept05:10
JawaltIs there a task manager for linux?05:10
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jhutchinsJawalt: Ctrl-Esc05:11
BluesKajJawalt, you have to type Y to the java licence agreement05:11
JawaltIll try to just apt-get the pack without adept05:12
BluesKaj open the details tab in adept05:12
BluesKajwhile installing java05:12
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BluesKajyup, now yer becoming a real linux user ...the commandline is usually the way to go05:14
JawaltOk well both dont work05:14
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pag!hi | sanuanand05:16
ubotusanuanand: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!05:16
BluesKajhi sanuanand05:17
sanuanandcan you help out wih my soundcard?05:17
Lynouresanuanand: probably someone here can, if you tell them about your problem05:18
sanuanandThe sound comes only from the right speaker05:18
kaminix|benkyouBy testing it seems like it, but is "sudo mv LinearTransformation.nb /dev/null" really nothing but a fun way to write "rm LinearTransformation.nb"? :D05:18
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sanuanandCan I perform some kind of troubleshooting?05:19
lnxwhy i cant see MMS in firefox ? ( its wmv movie and i can see it in konq ) ?05:20
Daisuke_Laptopkmix has a balance control you can check05:20
Daisuke_Laptopas does alsamixer05:20
Daisuke_Laptoplnx: mplayer firefox plugin's needed05:20
sanuanandlet me check05:20
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Lynouresanuanand: first steps would be to unplug and replug the speakers, then verify with some other audio source that the second speaker is not broken. Because often that happens, too.05:20
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sanuanandI have cross checked the spaekers. they are fine05:21
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sanuanandthe sound card is onboard.05:22
combiniohow can i install LIBFAAD2-0 so i can gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse which require libfaad2-0 ?? :}05:22
sanuanandMotherbaord model M2NMX05:22
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combinio** how can i install LIBFAAD2-0 so i can install gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse which requires libfaad2-0 ?? :}05:23
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llutzcombinio: sudo aptitude install libfaad2-005:23
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sanuanandhow do I open Kmix? I am new to Ubuntu05:23
llutzcombinio: next step: learn to use "aptitude search"05:23
ownerWell a reboot fixed the adept problem05:24
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combiniollutz: thanks a lot! :) i had a problem with that ! :]  and what is different between aptitude and apt-get ? :}05:24
ubotuaptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide05:24
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lnxDaisuke_Laptop i need to install it from firefox plugins or from adept ?05:24
llutzcombinio: aptitude is the recommended tool for debian, a bit more powerfull in tracking installed packages05:24
JawaltI try purging a broken download and it cant be done05:25
Daisuke_Laptoplnx: adept would be easiest05:25
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Daisuke_Laptopalthough i would recommend taking llutz's advice on that, aptitude is certainly more powerful05:26
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lnxDaisuke_Laptop what is the pakage name ?05:27
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Daisuke_Laptopsearch for firefox in adept05:29
lnxDaisuke_Laptop , i have foudn this : MPlayer-Plugin  , it is what i need ?05:30
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JawaltAdept got a broken download and I cant instakll java 6 =905:30
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sanuanandDaisuke_Laptop, I have checked Kmix05:34
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sanuanandThe settings are correct05:35
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sanuanandThe intial startup sound also comes only on right speaker.05:35
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sanuanandIs this something related to drivers?05:36
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto05:36
JawaltWhat was that help[ fikle that guy did earlier05:36
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eudemusHi. I'm having trouble getting Kontact to synchronise with my WindowsMobile PDA. I have Opensync installed and appearing to work, just that nothign gets updated on either the PC or the PDA. Is there any special config required for the plugins, especially the KDEPIM plugin? Anyone know? Sorry if this is not the right place to ask this (I'm floundering somewhat).05:40
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FlatfenderIs there anything special I am susposed to be doing to use an external hard drive? It was working ok last night, but this morning I can't get it to let me open it.05:43
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CyynicI'm trying to install a game from source, ./configure works. but make returns an error. I've looking in the forums but I can't find an answer that isn't "Install build-essential", which i've already done... can anyone help me?05:45
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emilsedghCyynic: if ./configure is passed, look at that games forums, this should be its problem and others asked this...05:46
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Flatfenderhal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000 Thats the error, I don't understand what would have changed to keep it from mounting.05:48
Cyynicemilsedgh: ok, i'll try that, but i've run into it before with pidgin (which i just gave up on for the time being and stuck with gaim) so i'm wonderingg if the problem is on my end05:48
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emilsedghif ./configure is passed, there shouldnt be a problem05:48
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Cyynicemilsedgh: when i type 'make' in the directory, i get the error "make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop."05:52
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lnxwhen i use mplayer for firefox plugin i get message "contect to server" and the video doesnt start until i refrash the page , what i can do ?05:54
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soccermike1337Is there any way to install the newest gtk with apt-get?06:00
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JawaltI need help06:03
Black_Monkeyhi, I'm running kde4 beta 2 on feisty, but plasma isn't working properly - at the bottom, I see "This object could not be created" twice where the panel should be :/06:03
JawaltI cant apt-get it says this:06:03
JawaltE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)06:03
JawaltE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?06:03
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Black_MonkeyJawalt: ah, you need to type a certain command, I'll just try to find it. An instance of apt-get, adept, or something crashed?06:05
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Jawaltadept crashed06:05
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Black_Monkey>_< konqueror keeps crashing as I try to google it06:07
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Black_MonkeyJawalt: run ps x, if adept's still running, kill it06:07
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JawaltInsuffitiont Permissions06:08
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Black_Monkeysudo dpkg --configure -a06:09
Black_Monkeythat's it I think06:09
pag!aptfix | Jawalt06:09
ubotuJawalt: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 06:09
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shankyI have a usb-modem06:10
Black_Monkeyah ok, well I got half of it :-P06:10
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AondoBlack_Monkey  i've got the same thing with my plasma :P not sure why06:10
shankybut when I plug it in, I can't see any device using lsusb06:10
Black_MonkeyAondo: yeah... would a "killall plasma" be ok to do, and run the kde3 kicker, or is plasma needed?06:11
Black_MonkeyI'm not using any widgets06:11
FlatfenderIs there a program that I have to have installed that I may have deleted that would let me use an external harddrive?06:11
b0uncerFlatfender: no, except for your kernel, or "mount" command?06:11
AondoBlack_Monkey  well, plasma is part of the fun06:11
shankyin /var/log/messages I get a lot of messages like this: usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3506:11
Black_MonkeyAondo: but I'm not really getting any use out of it, as the panels aren't working...06:12
Flatfenderhal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000 It gives me that error, It didn't last night06:12
AondoBlack_Monkey  ye, well you can start kde4 apps without plasma running06:12
Black_MonkeyAondo: does plasma do anything other than the panels and widgets?06:13
Aondonot that i can think of06:13
JawaltHmm I get this while trying to install06:15
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JawaltThe following packages have unmet dependencies:06:15
Jawalt  sun-java5-jre: Depends: sun-java5-bin (= 1.5.0-06-1) but it is not going to be installed or06:15
Jawalt                          ia32-sun-java5-bin (= 1.5.0-06-1) but it is not installable06:15
Jawalt  sun-java6-jre: Depends: sun-java6-bin (= 6-00-0ubuntu1~dapper1) but it is not going to be installed or06:15
Jawalt                          ia32-sun-java6-bin (= 6-00-0ubuntu1~dapper1) but it is not installable06:15
JawaltE: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).06:15
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pagJawalt, do you have backports enabled?06:17
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Black_Monkeydoes anyone know how I can get the kde4 versions of kopete and konversation? I installed kde4network, but they're not there...06:17
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ahuillethello - I am the project leader of freedroidRPG, an isometric 3D RPG06:17
JawaltWhat are backports?06:17
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b0uncerprograms from newer releases06:17
infblissmy external hard disk is recognized in ubuntu. But the capacity is shown as 30 GB while the HDD is 120 GB HDD06:17
ahuilletI wondered if anyone would be interested in packaging fdRPG for kubuntu06:17
infblisscan someone help me06:18
b0uncerinfbliss: could it be that your machine's IDE connector is too old?06:18
b0uncerit's possible that unless you have an EIDE connector, only about 30 gigs are recognized06:18
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infblissno it is a USB disk06:18
b0uncerok then06:18
ahuilletwe've been included in many major distros - mandriva, gentoo, debian notably, and think it would be interesting to be in ubuntu as well06:19
b0uncerinfbliss: what filesystem does it have?06:19
b0uncerI just bought a 500*10^9t disk, usb connected, and it's working just fine06:19
infblissi dont even know. most probably ntfs. seagate 160 GB06:20
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b0uncerI mean 500*10^9 bytes, sorry..equals to 465 gigabytes or so06:20
stepz_500*10^9 bytes is 500 gigabytes06:20
b0uncercause it's also possible there's a restriction on the partition size for the filesystem..but that would nowadays seem odd06:20
b0uncerstepz_: no it's not..500*10^9 bytes is 465 gigabytes, because 1k=1024b06:21
infblissis there a way i can repartition it. The problem is even windows does not recognize it06:21
stepz_no kilo is 100006:21
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stepz_kibi is 102406:21
b0uncerno, kilo is 1024 in computers06:21
b0uncerI'm talking about computer kilobytes, not SI-kilos06:21
infblissgparted shows the size as 35 Gb06:21
b0uncerlike we all do when talking about computer disk sizes :)06:21
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b0uncerthere's no sense in talking about SI-kilos with disk spaces06:21
stepz_why not?06:22
hsaterahow do i see previous conversations with xchat?06:22
b0uncerbecause of the disk geometries and binary calculations06:22
b0uncercomputers calculate in binaries which results in having 1k=1024B rather than 1000B06:22
stepz_hdd sizes are given in SI units06:22
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b0uncerthe physical sizes matter, not the commercial ones06:22
b0uncerto me at least06:22
stepz_bandwidth is calculated in SI units and so on06:22
b0uncerI don't like boasting I'm having a 500G disk when it's really 46506:22
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KeinMy headphones aren't working on Feisty...06:23
b0uncerthat's the whole problem; marketing makes things look bigger than they are, and just cause problems when you want to know how something really works, fits, goes06:23
BiovoreKein: laptop?06:23
stepz_it's not a marketing problem, it's a problem of using units correctly06:23
infblissb0uncer: is there any other way06:23
stepz_calling 1024 a kilo is a bad bad habit06:23
b0uncerit was ok back in the days when harddisks were 20MB..nowadays the difference between 1000 and 1024 is so big that people should really forget about the 1000-calculations06:23
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b0uncerstepz_: talking about kibi is bad habit; we should stick to simple terms, or we'll end up having millions of terms for the same matter with slight changes06:24
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KeinIt was working yesterday, but when I booted into Kubuntu today the options in KMix had changed.06:24
b0uncernobody needs to think 1k would be 1000B, so it's useless06:24
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stepz_I think most of the time 1kB = 1000B is quite natural and useful06:25
stepz_only programmers need to know what the those binary sizes are06:25
b0uncerthe only people I know who talk about kibis are the nerds at schools...everybody who knows anything about computers does understand that 1k stands for 1024B and that's it, no need to talk about mysterious kibis06:25
BiovoreKein: probably screwed then.. It because your sound card uses a signal from the HP jack to switch where it sends the sound probably.  Some of the sound drivers don't look for it.. :-(06:25
Kein...God dammit.06:25
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jhutchinsKein: No, I won't.06:26
BiovoreKein: Or there probably some magic voodoo you have to pass to the module it's self to make it works..06:26
stepz_b0uncer: so tell me, how much time does it take to transfer 1 megabyte over a 1 megabit network connection?06:26
b0uncerstepz_: that's the whole problem: I wouldn't have to think about that if there were no people like you who were asking it because they want to stick to the base 10 calculations :)06:26
jhutchinsstepz_: theoretically, ~1,000 seconds, depending on the exact units, and not allowing for overhead.06:27
FlatfenderDoes anyone have any insight as to why my external drive doesn't allow me to access it? I'm at a total loss. I have the permissions set so I can use it. I can see the drive is connected but can't access it06:27
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josephdecockis incremental search (find as you type) available in konqueror?06:27
jhutchinsFlatfender: It's formatted for Windows and the system is mounting it root-only.06:28
FlatfenderIt worked before. Is there a way I can fix that?06:28
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jhutchinsFlatfender: modify fstab so that it mounts rw/all or rw/<user>06:29
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ubotuTo mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone06:29
jhutchinssee also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions06:29
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stepz_jhutchins: 1000 seconds is completely wrong06:29
stepz_possible answers are 8 seconds and ~8.4 seconds06:30
jhutchinsstepz_: If you know the answer why are you bothering to ask?  Just to show off?06:30
stepz_to show that confusing binary and decimal prefixes has consequences06:31
Flatfenderjhutchins, how exactly do I modify it to do that? I'm reasonably new to linux06:31
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jhutchinsFlatfender: most use something like kdesu kate /etc/fstab06:31
jhutchinskate being a GUI text editor06:31
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llutzstepz_: bulls...t, your question was targeting the difference between bit and byte06:32
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stepz_no it wasn't, it was targeting the fact that bandwidth is almost always measured in decimal prefixes, and people like to measure disk space in binary prefixes06:33
mrmagoo_how to control error on kubuntu boot?06:33
FlatfenderJhutchins: I know how to get into the file to edit it from the console but my question is what to add to fix my problems. Last time I started screwing around in one of the files it crashed my system pretty good06:33
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jhutchinsFlatfender: Only change the line for the external drive.  Comment it out, copy it, make changes according to the URL's above06:34
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stepz_it's a counter rant to those who rant about marketing specifying hard drive sizes in real standardised units supposedly to make drives look larger06:35
x-demonPlease help me06:35
FlatfenderJhutchins, I don't even see the external drive listed there06:35
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x-demonI cant install it06:35
x-demonI make all installation steps06:36
jhutchinsFlatfender: Ah, well, we may have a more basic problem then.  You'll need to look at the end of dmesg or /var/log/messages just after connecting the drive and see what's going on.06:36
xp_killerhow to add people so they can view tru my webcam on kotepe06:36
x-demonBut after clicking 'reboot' i got blinking screen06:37
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x-demonWhat i must do06:37
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Biovorex-demon: It does take a bit for the reboot to happen....06:37
x-demonHow long06:38
BiovoreWell if you can't see the console after kde dies.. (could just be a graphics card glitch) It could take 2 mins depending on your machine..06:39
x-demonI try to shutdown livecd06:39
x-demonAfter installing it on hdd06:39
x-demonAnd then reboot06:40
FlatfenderJhutchins: it says: sd 9:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sda then it is followed by sd 9:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 006:40
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x-demonOr i can shutdown it via reset? :)06:40
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MinnozzHi, what is the difference between the generic headers and the 386 headers?06:41
Biovorex-demon: That might work.. Depending if grub is installed already..  Might complain when you boot that the disk needs to be checked..06:41
jhutchinsFlatfender: More info.  What's it doing with it?06:41
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x-demonIt can be disk check?06:42
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Biovorewell when you boot, ubuntu should see the disk in a unclean state and start a fschk automaticly..06:42
Flatfenderhttp://pastebin.com/mf38fa6c Nothing that looks abnormal to me jhutchins06:42
jhutchinsx-demon: You can force a disk check with shutdown -F -r now06:43
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x-demonIt livecd06:44
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x-demonI install kubuntu from livecd06:45
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jhutchinsFlatfender: I would look at that url then - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions06:45
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x-demonIt ask me for reboot06:45
x-demonI confirm06:45
x-demonAnd it doesnt reboot06:45
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x-demonI got blinking screen with kubuntu logo06:46
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x-demonWhat i must do?06:47
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bjwebbwhat packages (on ubuntu) do i need to compile a program that whats kde dev files?06:47
Minnozzcould anyone tell me the difference between the generic linux headers and the 386 headers?06:47
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x-demonGeneric works on all architectures i think06:48
devianceHow stable is 7.10?06:48
Biovorex-demon: If it shutting down, you should get a screen with the kubuntu logo on it, and the bar the should move slowly..06:48
x-demonIt not move06:48
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Biovorex-demon: what system you got?06:49
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Flatfenderjhutchins, thanks a million, that was the problem.06:49
x-demonKubuntu 7.04 with shipit06:49
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jhutchinsFlatfender: Great!  Glad to help!06:50
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lnxi change my keyboard layout from global to application and its auto return to global when i close kcontrol what i can do ?06:52
socis there fix for these plasma errors in gutsy?06:52
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JawaltHow do I run a .run file?06:53
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socJawalt: make it executable06:54
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socand them from the terminal ./foobar.run06:54
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FlatfenderIs there a package that allows me to play wma files?06:55
socinstall the ffmpeg packages ...06:56
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:56
socif your using gnome: install the gstreamer packages too06:56
soci your using kde install the libxine packages06:56
ubuntuI have ubuntu fesity fawn.  My system is hanging on bootup. It hangs after "Setting up preliminary keymap".06:56
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tzangermorning... what is the package kcdrecord needs to convert mp3s to audio cds06:59
tzangerer k3b rather06:59
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llutztzanger: aptitude search k3b mp3, install what it gives you07:00
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Cannoliwhat driver should i use for an ati card?07:01
Cannolicause the one i have right now is messing up my graphics07:01
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:01
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llutztzanger:    libk3b2-mp307:02
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Cannolimy display is completley messed up07:06
Cannolican someone help me please?07:06
Cannoliif u want i can takea  screenie of it and send it to anyone willing to help07:07
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BluesKajCannoli, messed up in what manner ..resolution or ?07:08
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Cannolihere i'll send u a screenie07:08
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Cannolihere i just uploaded it07:09
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arashhmmm.... this beryl seem to badly **** up my windows, so there are no 'close/minimize/maximize' buttons. ANy ideas?07:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xeffects - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:09
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ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects07:10
Cannoliany ideas?07:11
arashHow do I turn beryl off ? It starts every time session starts, so I can't just restart X07:11
Cannoliok so my konversation screen is gone07:12
Cannolii cant see wht anyone types07:12
Cannolican you please om me if you can help07:12
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BluesKajCannoli, seems you need to reconfig the panel07:13
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ubotuIf you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application>  See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo for more info07:14
Black_Monkeydoes anyone know how I can get the kde4 version of kopete for feisty?07:14
Cannolioh god07:14
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Cannolii cant see anything07:14
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jussi01Black_Monkey: you could install kde4...07:19
JawaltHow do I Set the version of java Im using?07:19
Black_Monkeyjussi01: I have, installed beta207:19
llutzJawalt:  sudo update-alternatives --config java07:19
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Black_Monkeybut it doesn't include a new version of kopete, even with kde4network07:19
jussi01Black_Monkey: ok, if its not included in that, go grab yourself the surce and compile it...07:19
Cannolii have no idea what to do07:19
Black_Monkeyjussi01: kk, was just wondering if there were debs around...07:20
Cannolimy kubuntu display is completley messed up07:20
jussi01Black_Monkey: I havent seen any, but then again i havent been looking07:20
jussi01Black_Monkey: have you looked on getadeb?07:21
Black_Monkeyjussi01: hm, no, never heard of it. I'll look, thanks07:21
BluesKajCannoli, right click on the panel , choose configure panel07:21
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Cannolik then07:22
llutz!ati | Cannoli07:23
ubotuCannoli: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:23
Cannolii did that07:23
llutzCannoli: are you using beryl/compiz-fusion?07:24
BluesKajCannoli, sorry i just use the default settings  so i don 't know how to fix it07:24
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Cannolino llutz07:24
Cannolikk BluesKaj07:24
Cannolithanx anywayz07:24
BluesKajllutz  prolly knows07:24
Cannolithts wht my screen looks like07:24
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=== xp_killer hi
newsense !hi | xp_killer07:26
ubotuxp_killer: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!07:26
BluesKajxp_killer, i liked it better when you were known as garfield :)07:26
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dudeicleslol BluesKaj, garfield was a nicer name. :P07:27
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BluesKajyeah, we don't hate XP , we just don't use it ....much :)07:28
dudeicleshate is a harsh word. I prefer dis-like07:28
dudeiclesor "could live without"07:28
dudeiclesfrom this weeks testing that is.07:28
BluesKajor tolerate when needed07:29
dudeicleslol right07:29
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dudeiclesI like it alright, but it's expensive if you want to stay up to date on it's builds07:29
BluesKajcuz i do need it , while linux works on a better scanner application07:29
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BluesKajkooka and sane aren't very good I'm afreaid07:30
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BluesKaj<---building a family album from old pics inherited from the old folks07:32
arash!me |BluesKaj07:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about me - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:33
JawaltAhh I fixed java07:33
JawaltI had to install the bin before the jre07:33
Cannolihow would i "Open the restricted drivers manager included in 7.04 "System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager""07:33
BluesKajkooka and sane don't do a good job on contrast and brightness07:33
Cannoliwhere is system>administration>restricred drivers manager?07:33
arashCannoli , are you using Kubuntu or Ubuntu?07:33
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Cannolii dont see a system>administration :(07:36
Cannoligot it07:37
vistakillerthis tool exist only in ubuntu07:38
Black_MonkeyI thought the restricted devices manager wasn't coming to kubuntu until 7.10?07:38
Black_Monkeykk. well Cannoli, you'll have to wait until gutsy07:38
xp_killerBluesKaj: lol07:38
vistakillerxp_killer i find my brother :P07:39
xp_killervistakiller: where was he?07:39
vistakilleryou are we have the same name :)07:39
newsensehow cute :P07:40
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xp_killervistakiller: ok lol07:40
lnxwhat is the command to run ntfs-3g config ?07:41
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lnxi change my keyboard layout from global to application and its auto return to global when i close kcontrol what i can do ?07:43
xp_killerinx: alt+F2  and type kdesu ntfs-config07:43
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vistakillersudo ntfs-config07:44
xp_killerthat way cause problems07:45
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hydrogenyou can do it either way07:46
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arashvistakiller, xp_killer, you seem pro, I was wondering, before I get killed by you (stop using Kubuntu since several things doens't work :p), I have several problems with my sound , I posted one in this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3297318#post3297318 , any ideas?07:48
vistakilleryou have sound?07:48
vistakillerand what audio card you have?07:48
arashYea, but it doenst come out form the loud speaker I want07:49
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP307:50
arashhmmm, SAA7134 is what 'Default Sound Card' application teels me07:50
vistakilleropen terminal ang give this07:50
vistakillerasoundconf list07:50
vistakillerand paste here07:50
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arashNames of available sound cards:07:51
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arashon my parition Vista lies on, there is a folder named DRIVERS'07:51
vistakillerok give this sudo asoundconf set-default-card SAA713407:52
JawaltWhere can I find info on where to get ubuntu drivers?07:52
vistakillerand restart07:52
vistakillerjawalt what driver you need?07:52
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arashrestart X or Ubuntu?07:52
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vistakilleris better07:53
xp_killerarash: the sound comes from the wrong place?lol so i dont tink its linux it's maybe how u set up your speakers.but u do get sound right?07:53
arashKubuntu *07:53
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JawaltI need video drivers for a Nvidia card07:53
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:53
arashxp_killer , I have several loudspeakers, but it only comes from one, that's ok, but I want it to come from another07:54
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npurcifulhello, got a question is tribe 6 going to be released07:54
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vistakillergive alsamixer then07:54
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vistakillerin terminal07:54
jhutchinsnpurciful: Gutsy info in #ubuntu+107:55
=== jhutchins would expect the next month or so though.
arashvistakiller, should I start alsamixer? isn't Kmix working ? (I use kubuntu)07:55
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vistakillertry to use alsamixer07:55
jhutchinsvistakiller: alsa mixer in console is a diagnostic tetst.07:55
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vistakilleri think you can change your settings there07:56
vistakilleri am wrong?07:56
arashok typed alsamixer, seems to be some 'GUI' in the terminal07:56
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Cannoliok so i just redid the !ati instructions07:56
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kkathmanalsmixer is pretty much like kmix really07:57
Cannolistill my screen is messed up07:57
kkathmanyou can run alsamixer at the cli tho07:57
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vistakillercannonili what card you have?07:57
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jhutchinsarash: What we basically needed to know was if alsamixer would run.  If it does, then the sound system is working and it's just a matter of finding what's set wrong.07:59
jhutchinsTurn off SPDIF or digital output.07:59
jhutchinsTry moving the ballance off center and see if that fixes it.07:59
arashwell my sound is working, definetly,07:59
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jhutchinsarash: sorry, I thought you had no sound.07:59
arashjhutchins , :), the problem is that It doesn't come out from the loud speaker I want08:00
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arashjhutchins: did you see the link i posted before, I asked at the forums and they said a solution, but I have no idea how to perform it...08:00
vistakillerarash try alsamixer or kmix08:00
Cannoliis there any way i can set all the settings back to defult08:01
Cannoliall the video card settings?08:01
vistakillerok cannili what card you have?08:01
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arashvistakiller: nah, nothing I can do from there, I tested everything from the gui08:01
jhutchinsarash: I dunno, I would just go into my kmix mixer panel, turn the headphones up and the speakers down, but what options you have depends on the card.08:01
Cannoliati radeon 165008:01
Cannoliit was working fine before08:01
vistakilleryou need to set the driver?08:01
jhutchinsThe sound card builders don't offer the full information on how to control them to OS developers, so sometimes not all features work.08:02
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vistakillergive in condole fglrxinfo and paste here08:02
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Cannolidisplay: :0.0  screen: 008:03
CannoliOpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.08:03
CannoliOpenGL renderer string: Radeon X1650 Series08:03
CannoliOpenGL version string: 2.0.6334 (8.34.8)08:03
arashjhutchins:  well, even at my Vista only one is active at the time, thats fine, but by 'a random' the priority is different, so it's better on Vista08:03
vistakilleryou have already the ati driver08:03
vistakillerwhat is the problem?08:03
arashjhutchins, yea, and the new computer my dad bought is probably badly entangled to only work on vista :p08:03
Cannolimy screen is totally messed up08:03
Cannolihere i'll bgive u a link to a screenie08:03
vistakilleror refresh rate?08:04
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arashoh dear god...08:04
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Cannolisrry abt tht08:06
Cannolidid u get the link08:06
vistakillerhave you try to open the glass windows?08:07
Cannoliwht glass windows?08:07
kkathmanlooks like he's got overlapping panels and over lapping applets :)08:07
vistakilleri think you not08:07
vistakilleryou have restart you pc after the problem?08:08
Cannolistill same thing08:08
vistakillergo to the sysstem settings08:08
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vistakillerand go to windows preference08:09
Cannoliwindow behaviouir?08:09
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vistakilleryes i think i dont use englsh ubuntu08:09
vistakillerok there in your right exist some tabs08:10
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vistakillerwhat is the name of the last tab?08:11
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dan_radio check08:11
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vistakillergo there and see if you have mark it08:12
Dr_willisCQ CQ CQ....08:12
Cannoliits unchecked08:12
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vistakillerstrange problem you have08:13
dan_any body here familiar with edubuntu08:13
ubotuEdubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org08:13
Cannoliit came outta no where08:13
Dr_willis:) other then that.. not used it.08:13
vistakillerwhith which guide you have install ati driver?08:13
Dr_willisIts ubuntu + extra packagages. Whats to know.08:13
dan_i have kubuntu and ubuntu installed...i just did a apt-get install for edubuntu...08:14
dan_and it does not show up under sessions under login08:14
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dan_install went well and everything...just can't figure out how to launch the session08:14
Cannolithe !ati one08:14
vistakilleredubuntu is gnome session08:14
Mr_Sonomaedubuntu i thought was a software package list like mediaubuntu is just the educational software08:15
Cannolinot the fiesty one08:15
Cannolithe other one08:15
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Cannolii forget wht its caleld08:15
Cannolithe guide said if i have kubuntu i should use the one thts not fiesty08:15
dan_yes, when i try to launch the gnome session it just launches my ubuntu desktop08:15
vistakillerdan edubuntu is the ubuntu desktop with some education programmes08:16
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:16
Dr_willisedubuntu = a set of educational software packages. Not a 'desktop' it may have some new default themes/wallpaper however. :)08:16
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dan_yes, i gather that much, but i don't see any of the eductional apps that are supposed to come w/ edubuntu when i'm in ubuntu/kubuntu...08:17
Dr_willisat least thats how it was last i looked08:17
dan_they should appear under either session right?08:17
Cannolithis one08:17
Dr_williscould be the menus need to get refreshed.08:17
Dr_willislog out/back in perhaps?08:17
Cannolithe exact tht08:17
Cannoliexact one*08:18
dan_tried that logging out/restart....it shows the edubuntu logo at the login screen and splash...but no new apps08:18
ubuntuanybody can tellme08:18
ubuntusomething _08:18
vistakillerxm give this in08:18
vistakillerand tell us what happen08:18
ubuntuhow can i made that my keyboard work before system is load _08:18
Cannolishould i do that in konsole?08:18
ubuntubye bye08:19
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Cannolidirect rendering: Yes08:19
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vistakilleryou are ok with you driver08:19
Cannoliso wht else could it be08:20
Cannoliok how do i restart my xserver?08:20
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vistakilleropen terminal08:20
vistakillerand type08:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xerver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:22
vistakillergksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:22
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:22
vistakillertry to find this08:22
vistakillerSection "Extensions"         Option  "Composite" "Disable" EndSection  Section "ServerFlags"         Option  "AIGLX" "off" EndSection08:22
vistakilleror go there and try to find this in the file08:22
vistakillerif you havent add it08:23
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dan_any more suggestions on how to get edubuntu apps to show under applications?08:24
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Mr_Sonomadan_, have you looked under the science & math and edutainment options under your "K" menu or what ever Gnome calls it.08:28
Mr_Sonomadepending on what DE you are using08:28
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newsensekubuntu is pretty nice, i started on redhat, moved to debian very soon after, tried suse, i think for personal use ill stick with kubuntu, but debian is nice for server08:29
newsenseeverything worked out the box with generic kernel08:29
dan_Mr_Sononma, yes there is nothing new there, under the education category of applications in GNOME nor under edutainment in KDE08:30
CannoliSection "Extensions"08:30
Cannoli        Option      "Composite" "disable"08:30
Cannolithts wht i have in my xorg08:30
Cannolithts the last 3 lines08:30
dan_or any of the categories for that matter...08:30
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Mr_Sonomadan_, not sure where/what else to tell you, if it installed software with gui front ends, witch i would imagine it would have, then they should be showing. all my software shows in all 4 DE's08:32
vistakillerok put and the other if you dont have it08:32
dan_the #about Edubuntu about the only new thing that is in my applications..08:32
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vistakillerSection "ServerFlags"08:32
vistakiller   Option  "AIGLX" "off"08:32
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christopherIs the shadow around the kmenu normal in kubuntu?08:33
vistakillerand restart your xserver after08:33
lnxi change my keyboard layout from global to application and its auto return to global when i close kcontrol what i can do ?08:33
Cannolijust  asec08:33
vistakilleryes you can change it from the settings christopher08:33
christopherok thank you08:33
BluesKajlnx, save your changes before exiting08:33
dan_thanks Mr S, -- by the way i just did the sudo apt-get install edubuntu-desktop method to install...should i have used another method ?08:34
lnxBluesKaj , i have save ( click on apply ) more things that i need to do ?08:34
BluesKajappy yes, but then click on the save icon08:34
BluesKajer apply08:35
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Mr_Sonomadan_, edubuntu-desktop is a meta package like the ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop should have installed all the software associated with that desktop package08:35
lnxwhere ? ( how it looks ?)08:35
dan_actually I guess I do have one application from the install--Diagram Editor, that's an edubuntu package right?08:35
ubotuEdubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org08:36
newsenseanyove here use konversation?08:36
dan_yea, that's what i figured, i'm just not seeing anything new besides the mentioned...08:36
dan_using konversation here...08:36
Mr_Sonomadan_, i dont know if thats part of that package or not. im gonna look at the website and see if i cant find a software list08:37
christophervistakiller, ok sorry where do i change this?08:37
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newsensedan_: do you know why the icons fo some operators are a green O and some look like a person ?08:37
dan_i had no problem doing the kde install...but just not really seeing any of these advertised apps on the edubuntu site08:37
christophervistakiller, sorry i found it thanks08:37
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dan_icons for operators?08:38
vistakillerthere are too many setting in kde :P08:38
newsensedan_: yes08:38
BluesKajlnx , sorry i thought you were using kcontrol08:38
kaminix|benkyouHow can I easily make a textfile with an index of an entire harddrive? "ls -R /media/device >> textfile"? Will that include subfolders? If I do that from a live CD on a Windows PC, will I need SU?08:39
dan_well, honestly this is my first time using konversation, so i'm not really in a postion to answer any technical questions...08:39
lnxBluesKaj i am . .. ( i run : sudo kcontrol )08:39
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BluesKajlnx, i think you may have relog in for the changes to take08:39
newsensedan_: nm i feel like an idiot those are users with voice that have a human icon08:39
BluesKajok lnx , the save icon looks like floppy disk08:39
newsensedan_: thanks for hearing me though08:39
dan_ahh ok...08:40
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mahdiI mounted a spare fat32 partition to use as data storage shared between windows/ubuntu, but it always ends up requiring root permissions to use it, how would I change that?08:41
Mr_Sonomadan_, wish i could have been more help, sorry but i gotta run08:42
dan_ok thanks anyways Mr S08:43
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intelikeyi've never seen so many 'segfault and core dump' s in all my life...08:44
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lnxi dont see here any save botton ? ( kcontrol keyboard layout menu ) only apply botton ?08:44
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intelikeyapply is save08:45
tekstacy'lo all08:45
lnxintelikey, ok so why it doesnt save ?08:45
tekstacyHow do I remove a program not found on the add/remove list?08:45
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intelikeyinx a bug maybe ?08:45
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intelikeytekstacy how was it installed ?08:46
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tekstacycrap, don't recall. It's google-earth. I followed some short instructions.08:46
lnxintelikey , how i can know if its bug ? ( i want to change the keyboard layout from "global" to "application" ) ?08:47
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newsensetekstacy: believe google earth comes with an uninstall script08:47
intelikeytekstacy i think a .run file ?   in such case you either need the file list that such installer installed, or the makers removal tool08:47
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tekstacycool, I shall look. Thanks08:48
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intelikeylnx any change made to your kde session should be reapplied on the next login,  if they aren't then either you have chosen to start with an empty session or it's a bug08:49
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xstAfter upgrading, "update-grub" creates a buggy "menu.lst" file where the root partition is wrong. How can I fix this?08:49
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lnxintelikey , i start with empty session , but even when i click apply and then exit from kcontrol and then enter again to it this autoreturn to "global" ?08:50
intelikeyfix the fstab ?    manually edit the menu.lst  ??08:50
intelikeyinx that sounds like a bug to me.08:50
intelikeycheck the launchpad08:51
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots08:51
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intelikeyor actually bugs.ubuntu.com  i guess08:51
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xstintelikey: The fstab is correct. And manually fixing the menu.lst file just fixes it temporarily until update-grub is run next time08:52
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intelikeyxst put  " exit 0 "  on the first line of the update-grub script  ?08:53
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intelikeyand keep track of the bug until it's fixed08:53
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xstintelikey: Is the bug registered? Do you know the bug #?08:54
intelikeyi don't have the # no.  but if you look it up it is known08:55
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intelikeythere may be a fix on the bug report   but i don't use grub so haven't looked08:55
intelikeycan't use grub08:55
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christopherwhen kaffeine plays a video, a small window opens up also but it doesn't really exist because when i click on it, i can't do anything with it08:59
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intelikeyheh  doesn't exist...  :)09:01
christopherif i right click on the window, it gives me my desktop options09:01
christopheri can't move them, click on them or anything, it's like they really aren't there09:01
newsenseor are they?09:02
Ace2016did your kwin crash?09:02
Ace2016try mplayer09:02
Ace2016or kmplayer09:02
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d347hm4nrun it the alt+f2 killall kaffeine09:03
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d347hm4nsorry * then09:03
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d347hm4nthen run it again, might fix the prob09:03
Ace2016killall -9 kaffeine, it might be stuck09:03
christopherno the windows are still there09:03
christophermaybe it's something with compiz?09:04
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Ace2016unlikely but possible09:04
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d347hm4nis there a nice config guide for kubuntu or is there just the documentation in the wiki?09:05
d347hm4nnot that the documentation is bad, it just isn't sequential09:06
msoinianother player problem: Kaffeine refuses to display subtitles, and VLC insists on rendering them large enough to cover the screen when i switch to fullscreen09:06
intelikeysequential d347hm4n ?09:06
d347hm4nman vlc, there may be a flag for forcing the subs to be smaller msoini09:06
d347hm4nyea like this then that then that09:06
d347hm4nfor fedora there is the guide provided by mjwired09:07
intelikeyyou mean config wireless then sound then...  ?09:08
msoinid347hm4n: tried that already, the VLC man page is just 64 lines09:08
d347hm4nmsoini: have you had a look on the vlc website and forums?09:08
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msoinid347hm4n: yep09:09
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d347hm4nmsoini: damn09:09
bbrinkmanhey, anyone here with widescreen trouble experience?09:09
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anthraxterneed some help?09:10
intelikeymsoini looked at file:///usr/share/vlc/http/index.html  ?09:10
Minnozzwhat's wrong when I get this output while untarbz2-ing linux-source? http://paster.dazjorz.com/?a=showpaste&paste=95809:10
anthraxterI am on windows right now.I reboot with the Kubuntu Installation DVD, i press the Start Or Install Kubuntu, it loads the kernel everything OK and then it freezes up.09:11
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intelikeyMinnozz tunrcated file09:12
intelikeymd5 the tarball09:12
msoiniintelikey: just says "" />"09:12
Minnozzintelikey: ty, i'll do09:12
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intelikeymsoini they could have moved them      dpkg -L vlc | grep .html09:13
bbrinkmanalright.. I have a 1440x900 flatscreen, and I have a Radeon X1600 using the generic vesa driver (the fglrx doesn't work at all)... somehow, the resolution can't go beyond 1024x78609:13
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bbrinkmanwhatever i try... i have copied a lot of xorg.conf from a working backup now09:14
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msoiniintelikey: what should I be seeing?09:15
tuxihi, anyone here has the uvesafb thing running?09:15
BluesKajbbrinkman, have you tried setting up a driver in system settings for the monitor ?09:15
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christopherok, i think it was a config problem, i cannot find the win32 codecs anywhere in synaptic09:16
Minnozzintelikey: dab809175b4be700e39caf7a9b3b2bff        linux-source-2.6.20.tar.bz209:16
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intelikeyMinnozz and the md5 from the website said ???09:17
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Minnozzintelikey: adept gives another md5, but i'm not sure if that's the md5 of the file09:17
anthraxterany solutions on my problem?09:17
bbrinkman@bleuskaj: yeah, i've tried the standard vesa, fbdev and the latest fglrx, both the ati ones caused a 'out of range' error on my display... even though a set a maximum refresh rate of 6009:17
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intelikeyMinnozz oh this is a deb source package ?09:17
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Minnozzintelikey: yes it is09:19
Minnozz(i think)09:19
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_Bart_Hi,  I have a problem. I activated the kde transparantacy and now only see black09:19
bbrinkmani think it's more of a xorg.conf issue; i tried this with slackware as well, but without the handy kde system configuration utility09:19
intelikeyanthraxter boot with    noacpi nosplash vga=normal   appended to the kernel line ?09:19
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intelikeyMinnozz then i don't know.  i'll defer you to someone in charge09:20
BluesKajbbrinkman, the graphics card isn't always the culprit in resolution settings , sometimes the screen monitor settings are out of range cuz the plugnplay settings...check for the monitor drivers as well as the graphics card09:20
intelikeybut the error indicates the archive is a partial archive not the full tarball.09:20
bbrinkmanyeah, hence the safe vesa setting; even detailed modelines in xorg.conf wouldn't work09:21
anthraxteri shall try that intelikey09:21
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Minnozzintelikey: ok, will it work when I re-install the package?09:21
anthraxterintelikey, what is the difference? :)09:21
intelikeyMinnozz should.  might do an    apt-get clean   to flush the download cache first09:22
BluesKajbbrinkman, have you looked the monitor drivers in system settings/ monitor & display09:22
intelikeyanthraxter differance is you are switching off acpi support and the kernel frame buffer  (aka boot splash)   so that xorg doesn't have those to contend with09:23
black_raven2525every time I install a package or "apt-get upgrade", apt give this error message Setting up unreal-ircd (3.2.7-2) ...09:23
black_raven2525dpkg: error processing unreal-ircd (--configure):09:23
black_raven2525 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 12709:23
black_raven2525Setting up libkrb53 (1.4.4-5ubuntu3.3) ...09:23
black_raven2525Errors were encountered while processing:09:23
black_raven2525 unreal-ircd09:23
black_raven2525E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)09:23
black_raven2525how do i flush that?09:23
intelikeyand that's a flood09:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about postbin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:23
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)09:24
newsensethats it, lol09:24
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newsensethinking post for some reason09:24
bbrinkmanbleuskaj, yeah, tried plug&play (which in turn cause my monitor to display a few stripes), and the standard setting for flatscreens.. but the resolution won't go beyond 1024x76809:25
intelikeyblack_raven2525  sudo dpkg -P --force-all unreal-ircd ;sudo apt-get install -f09:25
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bbrinkmanunfortunately, i have some cheap german one, so no drivers... but this should work with generic 1440x900@60... windows and my imac do it right with this monitor09:25
black_raven2525now it says dpkg - warning: while removing unreal-ircd, directory `/usr/share/unreal-ircd' not empty so not removed.09:26
_Bart_Hi,  I have a problem. I activated the kde transparantacy and now only see black09:26
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BluesKajbbrinkman, look in the monitor/configure for a monitor driver09:27
intelikeyblack_raven2525 you're welcome.09:27
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BluesKajnot the the std plugnplay variety, bbrinkman09:27
black_raven2525it didnt work, now it says dpkg - warning: while removing unreal-ircd, directory `/usr/share/unreal-ircd' not empty so not removed.09:27
intelikeyblack_raven2525 you're welcome.09:27
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intelikeymeaning yes it did work.09:28
black_raven2525o, that did fix it09:28
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bbrinkmanblueskaj, what am i looking for then... i have this one: http://www.nu-global.com/1_english/3_products/01_ide.php?pID=8509:29
bbrinkmanstrangely enough, mine does indeed do 1440x900.. strange website09:29
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bbrinkmanbut it's not in the list09:30
bbrinkmanso i have no other option then a generic/default display driver09:30
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BluesKajok bbrinkman , now we need a workaround for that09:32
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bbrinkmanblueskaj, love to hear it :D09:34
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shifty-how do i install the package for kde4?09:36
ubotuKDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at <http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule>. Beta 1 packages can be found at <http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php>.09:36
shifty-well i read theres beta 2 now09:37
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vltstdin: Hello. It's me, "runlevel UNKNOWN". I checked the contents of /etc/event.d/rc{2,3} and found differences to your version. rc3 looks fine but rc2: http://stdin.pastebin.us/3943909:37
BluesKajbbrinkman , try this tutorial ...it may work for your setup , if not you can always reconfig xorg : http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty09:37
intelikeyhd is filling up with core dumps......09:37
newsenseshifty-: read the topic09:37
bbrinkmanshify, use adept manager, and select unsupported updates in file > manage repositories09:37
bbrinkmanblueskaj, alright, i'll try09:38
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intelikeyah man it's rpm that's core dumping....09:38
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jhutchinsintelikey: rpm?09:39
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intelikeyso i can't install lilo  so i can't make the hd bootable   so i'm stuck with a boot floopy   for the life of that install09:40
intelikeywhich may be about one day !09:41
intelikeycan't install networking tools either....09:41
jhutchinsintelikey: well, you could try grub.09:41
jhutchinswhat distro?09:41
intelikeywont work09:41
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intelikeygrub can't boot a partitionless hd09:42
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Minnozzintelikey: I reinstalled the package (source) but I still get the error09:46
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intelikeyjhutchins what i've got,   an old 486 i thought i would convert into a gateway router    had a mdk10 live CD i made back when.   the box can't boot from cd and ubuntu can't boot from floppy (initrd too big)     i also have "BasicLinux"  a two floppy distro     i booted that copied the cd to the hd    copied the kernel to another box and made a boot floppy using it.   that got me a running mdk10 on the 486  but rpm is hosed..09:46
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intelikeyMinnozz oh.   you have  "build-essential"  installed ?09:47
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Minnozzintelikey: oops, I haven't...09:48
Minnozzinstalling now09:48
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Minnozzintelikey: Omg, I found the error...09:50
Minnozzintelikey: just 4 letters09:51
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BluesKajintelikey, there's some of both in most of us :)09:58
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intelikeyBluesKaj the higher percentage of us seem the be the older brother in that list...   ;/09:59
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newsenseanyone know how to make kdm show users names as clickable links rather than typing in username ? (girlfriend just started using this computer and likes the way she clicks her username at home in xp)10:00
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intelikeykcontrol      i think the actual selection says  display users     in the login section...10:01
BluesKajnewsense, i beleive you can setup more users in system settings/user management10:02
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Dr_willisIm old-skool i just edit the kdm config file :)10:04
Dr_willis!find kdm10:04
ubotuFound: kde-kdm-themes, kdmtheme, kdm10:04
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Doctor_NickHow do I start the kde bar at the bottom when it crashes?10:04
intelikeyhmmm interesting   i just mounted the live CD   chroot'd into it   and rpm is segfalting there too  so it wasn't my copying that bombed it was the live CD i made back when...10:04
Doctor_Nick!find kpanel10:05
d347hm4nhi, i screwed the nvidia driver install, i have new 7300gt and i installed the nvdia-glx, not the nvidia-glx-new, easy to fix10:05
intelikeyDr_willis yeah.    or gdm    seeing that i don't like kdm10:05
ubotuPackage/file kpanel does not exist in feisty10:05
Dr_willisDoctor_Nick,  the program name is 'kicker' i do belive10:05
Doctor_Nickyeah, that was it10:05
d347hm4ni still think i have to change the nv in the xorg.conf to nvidia, however when i do this step it doesn't work when i restart kde?10:06
Dr_willisd347hm4n,  you did a apt-get remove nvidia-glx, and apt-get install nvidia-glx-new ?10:06
Dr_willisthen i think a reboot is needed.10:06
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d347hm4nyea but i did it through the package manager10:06
Dr_willisI always do it with the restricted-manager utility. :)10:07
d347hm4ni have done a few reboots10:07
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Dr_willis!info restricted-manager10:07
uboturestricted-manager: manage non-free hardware drivers. In component main, is optional. Version 0.20 (feisty), package size 32 kB, installed size 300 kB10:07
d347hm4nwhen i do sudo nvidia-glx-config enable10:07
intelikeyd347hm4n yeah.  the kernel module has to be loaded.   for what ever ungodly reason  they seem to recommend reboot for that10:07
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d347hm4nError: your X configuration has been altered.10:07
d347hm4nThis script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this10:08
d347hm4nnot correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following10:08
d347hm4nmd5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum10:08
d347hm4notherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section10:08
d347hm4nfrom nv to nvidia.10:08
NickPresta!pastebin | d347hm4n10:08
ubotud347hm4n: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)10:08
d347hm4nmy bad10:08
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intelikeyd347hm4n also you need to    sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf ;sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg     then run it.10:09
d347hm4nok that worked10:10
d347hm4nnow a reboot yea?10:10
intelikeythat's what they say10:10
d347hm4nwell at least it isn't winblows10:10
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d347hm4nand how do i know it has worked?10:13
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d347hm4ncat /etc/X11/xorg.conf?10:14
dudeicleswhat is the problem you were having making you have to install an update?10:14
intelikeygrep nv /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:14
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d347hm4nok thx10:15
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Dr_willisHmm. odd.. My Mouse has a side-to-side scroll wheel. and under Kde it adjusts the volume up/down when i go side to side.. heh..10:16
tioandid, suspend2ram or disk works with / on lvm ?10:16
intelikeyDr_willis handy.10:16
dudeiclesDr_willis: seems like an added option.10:17
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Dr_willisintelikey,  :) or else its getting confused with my multmedia keyboard also.10:17
dudeiclesDr_willis: A very nice added option. :)10:17
Dr_willisI dident even realize the wheel HAD a side to side scroll10:17
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intelikeyis it the pressed down wheel ?10:18
Dr_willisWowsers.. the Calculator Utton on this Multimedia keyboard.... Launches a Calculator!10:18
intelikeyhad a mouse that would scroll or pressed scroll was side scroll10:18
dudeicleshow did you do that.10:18
Dr_willisthis mouse has an actual side to side motion. . im just wondering how kde knows what multi-media-keys are what on these new keyboards10:19
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Dr_willisI just now noticed i HAD the buttons on this new keyboard.10:19
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NickPrestaMy E-Mail button on my keyboard opens up the Composer window in KMail. Quite nice. :)10:19
Dr_willisNickPresta,  this one does also.  just noticed that l10:19
dudeiclesKDE didn't find my buttons on my keyboard.10:19
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dudeiclesoh wait10:20
dappermuisim running gutsy tribe 5 :D10:20
dudeiclesI spoke too soon10:20
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dudeiclessome of the buttons do work10:20
dudeiclesnow how would I alter them?10:20
dudeiclesI use Thunderbird not kmail10:20
BluesKajonly about half of the special buttons work on this compaq KB...thank goodness the mute and vol work :)10:21
dudeiclesBluesKaj: I feell ya my volume and mut work also10:21
BluesKajthe mail button launches t-bird compose10:21
marek_why automatix displays no connecting to internet even I have10:22
NickPresta!automatix | marek_10:22
ubotumarek_: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)10:22
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dudeiclesBluesKaj: Any idea how to alter the buttons?10:22
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jhutchinsintelikey: Ja, I wouldn't recommend mandriva, really.  <2006 has too many problems, >10 is too big.10:23
jhutchinsDefinitely not ubloatu.10:24
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jhutchinsintelikey: possibly a pre-fedora RH; or DSL/Puppy.10:24
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Dr_willisPuppylinux is fun. :)10:24
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BluesKajdudeicles, in system settings / regional & language/keyboard layout/keyboard model10:25
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rojanui have just installed kubuntu-desktop over ubuntu and my Kmenu is empty10:26
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dudeiclesBluesKaj: When I set up KDe I used the dumb redmond setup. How do I change everything to plainn KDE.10:28
dudeicleslike when you first install it asks you settings in a wizard. How can I run that again?10:28
intelikeyanyone know of a way to boot the ubuntu hoary install CD from a floppy disk ?10:28
Dr_willisthe kpersonalizer tool?10:28
Dr_willisor is it kpersonalize10:28
Dr_willissomthing like that i think10:28
dudeiclesDr_willis: Is taht to me?10:29
intelikeywell never mind.  i don't think the installer will run in 32m rem10:29
BluesKajdudeicles, system settings/appearance10:29
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Dr_williskpersonalizer  kpersonalizer - installation personalizer for KDE10:29
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Dr_willis:) if thats what you are refering to.. i guess its for you.10:30
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Dr_willisI cant think of any other wizard thing.10:30
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bobbyyuDoes anyone know what "job-hold-until-specified" means?10:31
dudeiclesDr_willis: That was perfect.10:31
Dr_willisdudeicles,  thats a neat app.. and annoying in ways. :)10:31
dudeicleswell I'm a windows guy so it's native to me.10:32
Dr_willisif you install it.. then all users will see it the next time they log in. Even if they have been logged in befor...10:32
intelikeysounds like don't  run this until something else calls for it                 bobbyyu10:32
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bobbyyuWell it appeared when I made a test print on my Ubuntu OS10:33
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intelikeyah a cups switch10:33
bobbyyuWhat should I do?10:33
bobbyyuWhat should I do?10:33
intelikeyflush cups ?   maybe...10:33
intelikeyflush cups ?   maybe...10:34
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bobbyyuHow do I flush cups?10:34
intelikeyprintmanager   look for stopped jobs      i'm just guessing about the message you described10:34
bobbyyuNo one so far can tell me what it means...10:35
bobbyyuSo sorry if I sound desperate10:35
bobbyyuMy printer can print before, until I formatted my hard drive10:35
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rdvonI just got super karamba with a whole bunch of cool little gadgets, but whenever i turn off the pc, super karamba doesnt load at startup, and when I do load super karamba up it doesnt show any of the stuff I've installed.10:37
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intelikeywell it means   "hi i'm a flag telling something to wait until called"   but why you are seeing it is the real question.     maybe the printer is paused ?   maybe cups is on hold.     idk.10:37
darksandmanhehe hi dudes :)10:37
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dudeiclesbobbyyu: What type of printer?10:38
bobbyyuLexmark Z60010:38
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rdvonhp's are best because their easy to isntall in linux. :)10:38
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intelikeyepson   print raw.10:39
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rdvonHow do I make all my super karamba apps *stay* on my desktop.10:39
rdvonbecause they always disappear when I close super karamba and open it back up >:O10:40
rdvonAnd then I can never find them again.10:40
rdvonquite annoying.10:40
dudeiclesrdvon: what is Karamba?10:41
dudeicles!karamba | dudeicles10:41
intelikeyspam http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3944210:41
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bobbyyuWhere can I go for Linux printer help?10:45
NickPresta!printer | bobbyyu10:45
ubotubobbyyu: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows10:45
NickPrestabobbyyu, what seems to be the problem? Which printer?10:45
rdvondudeicles: it's only the coolest widget like manager ever made for kubuntu10:45
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bobbyyuLexmark Z60010:45
rdvonyou *need* to get it dudeicles.10:45
rdvonsudo apt-get install karamba10:45
jbesieehi, is the kde4 beta2 read for feisty or not ?10:45
bobbyyuIt's a network printer10:45
rdvonsudo apt-get install superkarmba10:45
NickPrestabobbyyu, I believe I have that printer (I know it's a Lexmark Z something). Let me check.10:45
dudeiclesrdvon: will try it.10:45
rdvonI can show you a screenshot of it :)10:46
bobbyyuWhen I print through the printer, it says "job-hold-until-specified"10:46
bobbyyuAnd it doesn't print10:46
dudeiclesit's installed how do I run it?10:46
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maurii have a problem with kubuntu10:47
dudeicleswould this be comparable to Yahoo widgets?10:47
CrellHi folks.  I've an odd case.  I have an SD reader in a laptop that was working fine with Feisty.  In order to get other hardware working I upgraded to the kernel out of gutsy (2.6.22-10).  I just tried the SD reader again and, lo, it doesn't seem to be automounting properly.  dmesg reports that it finds mmcblk0, but does not create a device file for it.  Any idea what I need to poke at?10:47
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maurisometimes the screen become with vertical rows e nothing is possible to do10:47
bobbyyuShould I have edited something on printers.conf or smb.conf?10:48
christopherI saw in the Kubuntu forum, to install ivtv firmware from synaptic but i cannot locate it, any suggestions?10:48
rdvondudeicles: screenshot of superkaramba (to the right of the desktop) http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s70/rdvon/snapshot5.png10:48
NickPrestabobbyyu, my printer is a Z615. Are you sure that the printer is "enabled", idle and accepting jobs?10:48
rdvondudeicles: it's better than yahoo widgets in my opinion.10:48
dudeiclesi've been looking for somethign like that.10:49
dudeiclesnow how do I run it?10:49
bobbyyuHow do I check?10:49
dudeiclestype superkaramba?10:49
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rdvondudeicles: yeah.10:49
rdvonpress alt f210:49
rdvonthan type.10:49
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rdvonyou can download all the widgets directly from the program10:49
NickPrestabobbyyu, System Settings > Printers > Click on your printer to see it's information. It should be idle (accepting jobs). Otherwise, right click on the printer name and "enable" it.10:49
rdvonit gets them from kde-look.org10:49
dudeiclesonly shows me theems10:50
rdvonclick get new stuff10:50
christopherI saw in the Kubuntu forum, to install ivtv firmware from synaptic but i cannot locate it, any suggestions?10:50
rdvonat the top10:50
intelikeymauri test   alt+SysRQ+r  then alt+ctrl+f2 when that happens   that should tell you if the xserver is the problem or if it's vidio card issue (i.e. kernel side)   if you get to a login prompt you can login and do   sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart10:50
bobbyyuThis is Ubuntu though10:50
NickPrestabobbyyu, oh. Perhaps #ubuntu would be more help? I don't know my way around it's GUI tools.10:51
bobbyyuDid you have to edit something in printers.conf or smb.conf10:51
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NickPrestabobbyyu, nope. All was done via GUI tools in my system settings.10:52
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dudeiclesrdvon: Looks good to me.10:53
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mauriintelikey: sorry what is SysRQ10:54
rdvondudeicles: http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=38&PHPSESSID=fafabf019edc64e24051f508a2d44b5d you can also get the desklets (I just figured out the name, yay!) from here10:54
NickPrestamauri, it's the print screen button (it should say SysRq under Print Screen)10:54
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intelikeymauri normally shared with "print screen"10:55
jbesieehi, is the kde4 beta2 read for feisty or not ? the package seems ready but it don't work in my pc10:55
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intelikeynow how can this be    umount: /mnt/cdrom: device is busy10:57
intelikeyno gui running10:57
intelikeyno console cd'd to it.10:58
zipperi would guess the device is busy10:58
intelikeyno apps reading it10:58
intelikeyzipper so how can it be busy ?10:58
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zipperhard to tell. You might just have to wait for a timeout to occur10:58
zippergive it 5 mins, try to umount again10:59
zipperotherwise there must be some process that is still using it10:59
intelikeyzipper for what to time out ?    there is nothing running10:59
zipperan instruction to the cdrom drive given by a now-closed application or something, what do i know? =P10:59
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intelikeyi found it.  kernel module "loop" is what's hanging it11:00
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intelikeylooks like a bug11:01
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intelikeycan't rm the module can't umount the drive11:01
mauriintelikey: please are you still there?11:02
intelikeymauri not for long11:02
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mauriintelikey: i tried but kde logged me out11:03
mauriintelikey: and i did know how to rstert kde11:03
intelikeymauri i told you how     sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart11:04
intelikeyit was all in one post.11:04
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intelikeymauri test   alt+SysRQ+r  then alt+ctrl+f2 when that happens   that should tell you if the xserver is the problem or if it's vidio card issue (i.e. kernel side)   if you get to a login prompt you can login and do   sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart11:04
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intelikeymauri you should do that ^   when the vidio crashes on you.11:05
mauriintelikey: you are right but i didn't see your messenger because kde has been closed11:05
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mauriintelikey: in windows i never had this problem11:05
intelikeymauri i have seen it a couple of times with different hardware.   normally  "ati" junk11:06
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christopherany idea how i get the ivtv firmware? in the forum it says its in the synaptic but i cant find it11:07
intelikeynot running ati radeon  are you?11:07
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zippermauri, no offense, but why exactly should we care that you did not have that problem in windows? I mean, you never played around with X in windows now did you?11:07
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intelikeychristopher probably in "restricted"  make sure that's enabled and updated then look11:08
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christopherok, i'll take a look11:08
BluesKajzipper, windows users say that all the time ... we should be used to it by now :)11:08
intelikeyi'm going to kill init now.11:09
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kookyhello, what is the command to specify the JRE (Java Runtime Environement) by defect under kubuntu?11:09
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maurizipper: sorry, i 'm beginner in linux... i supposed that if it eas a hardware problem, also in windows something like that should be accour....but again, i'm beginner i don't know exactly what is x server...i'm here in order to know that11:09
christophernope not there either11:09
zipperBluesKaj, i know. Just trying to beat some sense into them when i can i guess11:09
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zippermauri, no reason to be sorry, but what windows does and does not do isn't really relevant11:10
maurizipper: ok11:10
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BluesKajkooky, there is no command to specify java over any other ...you have make sure it's installed11:10
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vltstdin: Solved. I replaced my rc2 file with yours and it works now. Thank you!!! I think rc2 had to be changed after Edgy install to make cryptsetup work and now the upgrade didn't touch the customized file.11:10
zippermauri, although hardware issues are always nice to be aware of when trying to debug something11:11
maurizipper: when it happens, the mouse cursor is able to move but nothing is posibile to do a part restart the system11:11
zippermauri, i have no idea what you're having trouble with and i'm going to bed. Sorry11:11
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maurizipper: ok thanks goodnight11:12
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kookyBluesKaj, yes it is11:12
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zippermauri, thanks, you too11:13
zipperand best of luck11:13
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kookyBluesKaj, when i install a JRE it become the new defect JRE?11:13
christopherany idea how i get the ivtv firmware? in the forum it says its in the synaptic but i cant find it11:13
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yurimxpxmanI just installed mldonkey, and there aren't any servers listed to connect to.. what should I add?11:21
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newsense yurimxpxman: google ed2k server list ?11:25
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yurimxpxmannewsense: I found a list as a .met file.. does that work with mldonkey?11:26
yurimxpxmannewsense: I can't even find a place to add servers :/11:27
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newsenseyurimxpxman: sorry, dont use the aplication it was more of a suggestion than an answer11:28
christopherany suggestions on getting a pvr-150 working11:28
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pvr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dvr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:30
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newsensechristopher: using the pvr for mythtv or such?11:34
Kenichi_nlhello does someone know a avi23gp converter for kubuntu?11:34
emilsedghKenichi_nl: maybe you wanna try ffmpeg, (CommandLine, no gui)11:34
Kenichi_nli fail at command line11:35
christopheryes or just tvtime11:35
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Kenichi_nlcan you convert avi 2 3gp with tvtime?11:36
emilsedghKenichi_nl: thats so easy, should be just ffmpeg -i inputfile.avi outputfile.3gp (I think)11:36
newsensechristopher: i googled it and seen a few howtos for mythtv and breezy11:36
christopherok i'll look at that11:37
Kenichi_nlbut i need to set the dir good?11:37
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zgmf-x20adrif: hey drif you around today man???11:48
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zgmf-x20ahmmm guess not.  well, anyone here today who may be abe to help me with the installation of drivers for my video card?11:50
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs11:50
zgmf-x20awow ghost town in here today11:51
d347hm4nis it ati or nvidia11:51
zgmf-x20ad347hm4n: it is the nvidia geforce 8600m gs on my laptop, which is the asus f3sv-a1 model11:52
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d347hm4nzgmf-x20a: i will find the link just a sec11:52
zgmf-x20ad347hm4n: i found this link: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_100.14.09.html11:53
zgmf-x20abut have NO idea how to actually install it11:53
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d347hm4nyou must install nvidia-glx-new11:53
d347hm4nzgmf-x20a:what is it that you do not understand?11:53
zgmf-x20ad347hm4n: o, how? from adeot?11:54
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zgmf-x20aerm adept i mean11:54
d347hm4nyes or you can11:54
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d347hm4nsudo apt-get nvidia-glx-new11:54
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d347hm4nyou can do this in a terminal for any package11:55
d347hm4na konsole that is11:55
d347hm4njust alt+f2 for the run command11:55
zgmf-x20ad347hm4n: ok so if i do that the drivers will automatically install?  or is that just a basic drover package for all nvidia based hardware?11:55
zgmf-x20abtw thanks for that link, it looks really helpful11:56
d347hm4nnp, there is alot there so make sure you have a read11:56
zgmf-x20aok, ill try that sudo line first, one second.  cause yah the current resolution SUCKS!11:56
d347hm4nfor instance if you want to start a gui program from the konsole with root privileges you must use kdesu not sudo11:57
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zgmf-x20aargh... anyone else in here understand how to get display drivers up and running, having an issue....12:02
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jussi01zgmf-x20a: which card?12:02
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zgmf-x20ajussi01: it is the nvidia geforce 8600m gs on my laptop, which is the asus f3sv-a1 model12:03
jussi01so did you install nvidia-glx-new?12:03
zgmf-x20ai have just installed the nvidia-glx-new from adept, but still not able to actually manipulate window size etc, properly12:03
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zgmf-x20anor is there any gui for working with the card directly12:04
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jussi01IIRC, you need to run the config12:04
zgmf-x20athen i tried to insatall, nvidia-settings, and nvidia-xconfig, and it wont let me12:04
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:04
jussi01have you read that link?12:05
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lopanehi all ^^12:05
zgmf-x20ajussi01: im reading thru it now12:05
jussi01zgmf-x20a: ok, good luck. Im heading to bed. nite12:06
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zgmf-x20ajussi01: issue... when following this walk thru, when i select i want nviida-dev, it automatically tries to uninstall nvidia-glx-new12:11
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zgmf-x20ajussi01: erm sorry, when i select to install nvidia-glx, it automatically treis to uninstall nvidia-glx-new12:12
atrainHas prism2 been properly implemented with iwconfig/iwlist, or do you still need seperate custom apps to handle it?12:12
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zgmf-x20ajussi01: what should i do?12:13
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zgmf-x20aok... so jussi01is gone... anyone else have a minute to help me get this display card up and running?12:15
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atraini'll give it a shot12:15
zgmf-x20ahey atrainsounds good.  do you know how to get video cards up and running?  it is the nvidia geforce 8600m gs on my laptop, which is the asus f3sv-a1 model12:16
atrainshould be generic nvidia drivers12:16
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zgmf-x20aatrain: ok, so what should i do?  also, i found this, but NO idea how to install it http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_100.14.09.html12:17
atrainapt should have the drivers, just go through it12:17
zgmf-x20aatrain: yah i read that, and am stuck at a certain point going that rout12:18
atrainwhich point12:19
atrainacoring to the wiki, nvidia-glx-new is all that is requried...12:20
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mattperry1976I am getting a 'unable to save...' message all over the place in kubuntu all of a sudden...anyone know how to fix this?12:28
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zgmf-x20aARGH!!!!!!!!!! none of these drivers are working!!!!!!!!!!!!12:30
kkathmanmattperry1976:  in your applications?12:31
zgmf-x20aok anyone know... at some sort of guru level, how to install display drivers/12:31
kkathmanzgmf-x20a:  which one?12:31
zgmf-x20ahey kkathman, it it is the nvidia geforce 8600m gs on my laptop, which is the asus f3sv-a1 model12:31
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dudeicleswhat irc client does everyone here suggest for kubuntu users? I'm using xchat-gnome right now.12:32
mattperry1976like if I open a simple window in dolphin, and do nothing and then close it, I get this message...if I try to make changes to the k menu and try to save, I get this kind of message...any ideas?12:32
kkathman!nvidia | zgmf-x20a12:32
ubotuzgmf-x20a: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:32
kkathmanmattperry1976:  sounds odd - did you change log ins or something?12:33
zgmf-x20akkathman: so i have followed the guide on how to go about doing it, but get to the point of installing nivida-config, and nvidia settings, but when i select them it will deselect nvivdia glx and nvidia glx dev12:33
Sannedudeicles: konversation is also nice, default irc client for KDE12:33