[12:38] <christoffernors> #ubuntu
[12:38] <winbond> mauri, i think u gonna have to buy a different webcam if u want to use it with linux
[12:39] <vlt> stdin: wanna see the whole file?
[12:39] <mauri> winbond: i hope it's will be enough, thanks
[12:40] <rdvon> Hello, I've tried mutliple programs to try and play radio streams but *NONE* of them work. I've tried songbird, amaroK, and rhythmbox. Nothing is working.
[12:40] <RichardBH> stdin: are you still here?
[12:40] <vlt> rdvon: Can you play sound from afile?
[12:40] <vlt> a file*
[12:40] <winbond> mauri, pick one of the ones i gave you the link to , pick one which has 5 or 6 stars for quality
[12:41] <stdin> vlt: hmm, post the output of "ls -l /etc/rc2.d" to pastebin
[12:41] <mauri> winbond: ok thanks again...
[12:41] <stdin> RichardBH: yep
[12:41] <dnd> hell,im having problems with my wifi on my laptop
[12:41] <dnd> hello*
[12:41] <rdvon> vlt: Hmm.. No, But I thought songbird came with all the necessary codecs to play audio.. :\
[12:42] <RichardBH> stdin - after upgrading to KDE 3.5.7, i still dont have the 'edit' button for emoticon themes - can you confirm which kopete package you have installed?
[12:42] <RichardBH> !wifi | dnd
[12:42] <ubotu> dnd: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:42] <vlt> stdin: it's the same as in rc3, except for "Only in /etc/rc2.d: S10powernowd.early" and "Only in /etc/rc2.d: S99stop-readahead"
[12:43] <vlt> stdin: The problem is: It doesn't let me enter runlevel 2.
[12:43] <rdvon> vlt: what is the apt-get line to get all the necessary codecs?
[12:44] <vlt> rdvon: Try an ordinary wav file please
[12:44] <winbond> so who got the kde4 beta2 running on gutsy?  or feisty
[12:44] <rdvon> ok.
[12:44] <vlt> rdvon: no mp3
[12:44] <stdin> RichardBH: ahh, I have 0.12.5, you have 0.12.4 (I'm on gutsy)
[12:46] <rdvon> vlt: wav file isnt working.
[12:46] <RichardBH> stdin: if i go help>about kopete it says im on 0.12.5
[12:46] <stdin> vlt: what happens when you boot in to recovery mode and do "telinit 2" (or just type "exit" ) ?
[12:47] <RichardBH> stdin: although i am on 7.04 (feisty?)
[12:47] <stdin> RichardBH: may be a difference in the package
[12:47] <rdvon> vlt: I neeeeeeeed help :)
[12:48] <RichardBH> stdin: 4:3.5.7-0ubuntu1~feisty1
[12:48] <RichardBH> presumably you have ~gutsy1
[12:48] <vlt> stdin: I'll try ... Here's rc2.d: http://suez.musketa.de/rc2.ls
[12:51] <vlt> rdvon: What's the error msg?
[12:54] <Dave132> the link in the top for the known feisty problems comes up with"The IP address of the host wiki.kubuntu.com does not match the one the certificate was issued to."is this a problem?
[12:57] <NickPresta> Dave132, no. It should be fine. We can trust kubuntu.com :)
[12:57] <Dave132> ok
[12:57] <NickPresta> however, in the future, if the certificate is issued to crackers.com/ and the website you're trying to visit is paypal.com, that could be a problem :P
[12:58] <Dave132> got ya
[12:58] <Dave132> :)
[12:58] <stdin> hmm, that shouldn't actually be .com...
[12:58] <RichardBH> if i want to upgrade to gutsy, will following the ubuntu instructions work?
[12:58] <Dave132> uh  oh
[12:59] <winbond> can i move a virtual machine from vmware server to vmware workstation ?
[01:00] <vlt> stdin: Booting to single and running `telinit 2` => init: rcS-sulogin main process (4583) killed by TERM signal
[01:00] <stdin> vlt: anything else happen?
[01:00] <dnd> !wifi
[01:00] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:01] <vlt> stdin: No, that's the problem. `telinit 3` works but not 2 ... weird
[01:01] <stdin> odd..
[01:01] <hitmanWilly> vlt iirc, runlevel 2 is what kubuntu starts default
[01:01] <vlt> stdin: Even after the latest kernel update (31/8) and initrd rebuild ...
[01:02] <kelsi> hi there.. i have a basic question about installing a program.. is there anyone here who has a minute or two to help me out?
[01:02] <vlt> hitmanWilly: Yes, but it doesn't work from "single"  even.
[01:02] <hitmanWilly> hmmm, that is weird
[01:02] <vlt> hitmanWilly: ... and the current runlevel is shown as "UNKNONW"
[01:02] <vlt> UNKNOWN even
[01:03] <sveden> can someone tell me how to mount a raid server share to my
[01:03] <hitmanWilly> does the recovery mode even load inittab?
[01:03] <sveden> system?
[01:03] <vlt> sveden: It shouldN#t matter if it's rais
[01:03] <vlt> raid
[01:03] <sveden> k
[01:04] <hitmanWilly> the unknown runlevel makes me wonder...
[01:04] <vlt> hitmanWilly: There's no inittab. This is f**** upstart
[01:04] <sveden> well I hve a server in my house and I would like to know how to log into it
[01:04] <sveden> I um <cough> know how to do it in windows but not kuduntu
[01:04] <vlt> sveden: If we knew this it this would be pretty unsecure :)
[01:05] <hitmanWilly> vlt actually, yes there is an inittab, but there's nothing in it by default, my guess is that whatever process handles runlevels in upstart doesn't load in the recovery console
[01:06] <vlt> hitmanWilly: I wouldn't care if it only did in normal boot!
[01:06] <sezky> hey
[01:06] <vlt> sveden: To be ...
[01:06] <vlt> ok
[01:06] <hitmanWilly> vlt so telinit cmds don't work even in normal mode?
[01:06] <sezky> im trying to install kdm theme manager and when i run configure i get compiler c cannot create executables
[01:06] <sezky> any ideas?
[01:07] <hitmanWilly> sezky install build-essential
[01:07] <vlt> hitmanWilly: `telinit 3` works, `telinit 2` not
[01:07] <Dudeicles> ScorpKing: ok this HD should work fine. lol
[01:07] <sezky> i tried that
[01:07] <stdin> sezky: why are you compiling it?
[01:07] <sezky> i found that command on a forum
[01:07] <Dudeicles> this one is only 40 gig though
[01:07] <hitmanWilly> vlt well, since you're already in runlevel 2 on a normal boot, that's probably why
[01:07] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: sweet
[01:07] <sezky> so i can install it right?
[01:07] <Dudeicles> ScorpKing: Should I do the same formatting?
[01:08] <winbond> sezky, isnt there a theme manager installed by default?
[01:08] <stdin> !info kdmtheme | sezky
[01:08] <Dudeicles> 5 for root, 34 for /home and 1 for swap?
[01:08] <ubotu> sezky: kdmtheme: theme manager for KDM. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.2-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 103 kB, installed size 268 kB
[01:08] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: yes
[01:08] <Dudeicles> k lets see how that works
[01:08] <Dudeicles> talk to you soon if it doesn't let me stay in the chat
[01:09] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: that way if something goes wrong you dont loose stuf in your home dir.
[01:09] <sezky> does that say i already have it installed ?
[01:09] <vlt> hitmanWilly: When I do normal boot nothing is started. I just get a shell prompt. `runlevel` returns "UNKNOWN" and I have to run `telinit 3` everytime to run all the daemons from rc3
[01:09] <Dudeicles> oh ok
[01:09] <vlt> hitmanWilly: rc2 looks the same btw
[01:09] <Dudeicles> makes sense
[01:09] <hitmanWilly> vlt ok, making more sense now...
[01:09] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: saved me a lot of work.
[01:10] <Dudeicles> cool
[01:10] <Dudeicles> crap dude
[01:10] <Dudeicles> install crashed again
[01:10] <hitmanWilly> vlt is this new or has it always done this?
[01:10] <ScorpKing> :(
[01:10] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: gimme a sec
[01:10] <rdvon> vlt: sorry I havent responded in a while, It gives no error, it just refuse to play.
[01:11] <vlt> hitmanWilly: This is since upgrade from Edgy (which was a fresh install using upstart right from the start) to Feisty (using adept).
[01:11] <hitmanWilly> vlt sounds like the upgrade got borked...
[01:11] <vlt> rdvon: You don't hear it play ... but can you see a timer counting or similar?
[01:11] <hitmanWilly> vlt you may try reconfiging upstart
[01:12] <vlt> hitmanWilly: I must have run dpkg-reconf... upstart a 1000 times ...
[01:12] <hitmanWilly> vlt also, you may want to check the contents of rc.d
[01:12] <stdin> vlt: and make sure /etc/event.d/rc2 looks like http://stdin.pastebin.us/39429
[01:15] <sezky> i dont understand do i have the theme manager installed already ?
[01:15] <rdvon> vlt: I can see the name, but no counter. nothing.
[01:15] <stdin> !changethemes | sezky
[01:15] <ubotu> sezky: To change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.
[01:15] <sezky> k thanks
[01:16] <sezky> that kde-look.org is where i downloaded one of my themes
[01:16] <sezky> that wont install in usuing the theme manager i have installed already
[01:17] <sezky> i thought i needed kdm theme manager
[01:18] <vlt> rdvon: What player are you trying?
[01:19] <vlt> rdvon: Can you please test `aplay -v <wavfile>` or if installed `mplayer <wavfile>`?
[01:19] <winbond> so who got the kde4 beta2 running on gutsy?  or feisty
[01:19] <sezky> this file has the extention theme.rc
[01:20] <sezky> is that a part of a KSplash Theme ?
[01:20] <winbond> !stupid | winbond
[01:22] <rdvon> vlt: i'm trying songbird.
[01:22] <rdvon> vlt: i'll try amarok..
[01:23] <vlt> rdvon: aplay -v
[01:23] <rdvon> vlt: it's working...
[01:23] <winbond> rdvon, songbird is not open source , is it?
[01:24] <rdvon> I guess not :(
[01:24] <rdvon> I had it in ubuntu, worked fine.
[01:24] <Random832> yes it is
[01:24] <Random832> it's based on mozilla
[01:24] <rdvon> hmm.. it did have a license agreement stating some thigns were proprietary.
[01:25] <Random832> it's little more than a firefox fork at the moment
[01:25] <rdvon> when does it come out?
[01:25] <winbond> i used it for a while on windows, i liked it but it was too sluggish
[01:25] <stdin> the mozilla licence allows for some proprietary things
[01:26] <Random832> ok, it's apparently more complex - http://www.songbirdnest.com/roblord/blog/songbird_license
[01:30] <vlt> rdvon: aplay works. What about amarok?
[01:31] <deathguppie> hey, has anyone succesfully installed a game under wine in kubuntu??
[01:31] <Dudeicles> game I installed din't work right
[01:31] <Dudeicles> but it's my understanding that they can work
[01:31] <deathguppie> I cannot seem to  because the cd player gets locked
[01:31] <Dudeicles> not sure if you need Crossover though
[01:31] <Dudeicles> my cd player worked ok
[01:32] <Dudeicles> could be different brands though
[01:32] <deathguppie> I can't seem to get disk one out during install..
[01:32] <Dudeicles> deathguppie: try #winehq
[01:32] <deathguppie> device or resource busy..
[01:32] <Dudeicles> they may be able to help you
[01:32] <deathguppie> thnks..
[01:33] <Dudeicles> not trying to get rid of you, just think they'd be of more help
[01:33] <Dudeicles> deathguppie: np bud
[01:33] <vlt> stdin: BTW you Mozilla client still tries to load my favicon.ico ;-)
[01:33] <vlt> your*
[01:34] <Dudeicles> vlt: cache maybe?
[01:34] <Seek_Therapy> Can someone tell me if there is software that Linux provides comparable to Dreamweaver ?
[01:34] <Dudeicles> Seek_Therapy: google ubuntu WYSIWYG
[01:35] <Dudeicles> may find something just as good
[01:35] <vlt> Dudeicles: No, it's alright. Just info for stdi.n
[01:35] <Seek_Therapy> that is nothing compared to dreamweaver
[01:35] <Dudeicles> or google Ubuntu dreamweaver
[01:35] <Dudeicles> may tell you how to install it
[01:35] <Dudeicles> wine is a way not sure which version work though
[01:38] <kcg> hello there, i typed ooffice in konsole to open openoffice, but i saw the following error, seems to be related to my xorg settings, has anyone got an idea?
[01:38] <kcg> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36841/
[01:38] <Seek_Therapy> I was looking for something FREE
[01:39] <vlt> stdin: I can't access the "runlevel machine" anymore (the person who runs `telinit 3` after each of my reboots seems to be asleep now, it's 01:39 am over there). I'll ask again tomorrow. Thank you for your help.
[01:40] <stdin> ok, no problem :)
[01:41] <Seek_Therapy> Isn't there a way to just pirate it !
[01:42] <Seek_Therapy> and how can i get passed the damn security crap
[01:42] <stdin> !piracy | Seek_Therapy
[01:42] <ubotu> Seek_Therapy: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[01:43] <hitmanWilly> kcg is this feisty or gutsy?
[01:43] <kcg> hitmanWilly, it is feisty
[01:43] <hitmanWilly> kcg ok, that seems strange...
[01:43] <hitmanWilly> kcg you could try a reinstall
[01:44] <kcg> reinstall of openoffice?
[01:44] <msoini> ok, i need some help
[01:44] <Seek_Therapy> oh get your panties out of a wad, i was just kidding. Figured why beat around the bush
[01:45] <kcg> hitmanWilly, apt-get --purge remove?
[01:45] <vlt> What does !o4o mean?
[01:45] <msoini> k3b kills my dvdr, i have to reboot to get it to work again, other burning apps don't do this
[01:45] <sezky> hey how do i open up the file browser with root privledge ?
[01:45] <sezky> heh
[01:46] <msoini> i think it's something to do with detecting empty dvd-r media
[01:46] <vlt> sezky: That's not a very good idea. Maybe xou could use "mc" as root
[01:46] <hitmanWilly> kcg or apt-get --reinstall
[01:46] <msoini> because it doesn't happen when i start k3b with the drive empty or with a burned/bought dvd in it
[01:47] <sumguy231> sezky: kdesu konqueror
[01:47] <sezky> it's cause i need to copy a file in a location that required root privledge
[01:47] <vlt> sezky: stillnot a good idea ;-)
[01:47] <sezky> why not ?
[01:47] <Seek_Therapy> Linux is so frustrating ...I mean it takes forever just to learn one damn thing
[01:47] <vlt> sezky: use `sudo cp` on a shell
[01:47] <ardchoille> sezky: Better to use: sudo cp /path/file /path/location
[01:48] <sezky> oh alright
[01:48] <Seek_Therapy> no wonder women don't use it
[01:48] <sezky> lol seek_therapy
[01:48] <ardchoille> Seek_Therapy: My 8 year old niece uses Linux on a daily basis
[01:48] <sumguy231> msoini: Does it detect the brand and such of your drive OK in Settings -> Configure K3B -> Devices?
[01:48] <msoini> yes
[01:48] <msoini> until i insert the media, then that goes blank
[01:49] <Seek_Therapy> easier to point and click and not have to apt_ efgrhowe;sjgap;wfjup['aqes
[01:49] <kcg> himanWilly, thx, im reinstall the whole openoffice
[01:49] <sumguy231> Seek_Therapy: Your ranting is kinda getting in the way here. Take it to #kubuntu-offtopic or /dev/null, please.
[01:49] <kcg> hitmanWilly, thx, im reinstall the whole openoffice
[01:49] <msoini> and the Disk & Filesystems window tells me the drive is disabled
[01:49] <vlt> My 3 yr old daughter knows how to use konqueror and my ibm trackpoint to watch photos from digicam..
[01:49] <Seek_Therapy> whatever, i doubt she installs anything !!!!!!!!1
[01:50] <stdin> !ot
[01:50] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[01:50] <vlt> Seek_Therapy: ;)
[01:50] <acrobat> hello
[01:51] <hitmanWilly> kcg that may or may not work
[01:51] <ubuntu> Hi again
[01:52] <Seek_Therapy> sumguy231: no it's not getting in the way.....maybe u guys need to take note...so take note. Its not user friendly AT ALL unless you want to learn commmmmmmmd PROMPTTTTTS
[01:52] <ubuntu> Still trying to sort out how to map my multimedia keys to the Volume
[01:52] <Seek_Therapy> stupid
[01:52] <ubuntu> Seek_Therapy: Hmm?
[01:52] <stdin> stop that or take it to -offtopic
[01:52] <ardchoille> Seek_Therapy: Please take that to ot, thanks.
[01:53] <sumguy231> msoini: Never mind, I have no idea. Sorry.
[01:53] <msoini> ok
[01:53] <Seek_Therapy> all of you are just sensitive and weird....don't read it...its not like i am yelling over everyone
[01:54] <sezky> cp: omitting directory `/home/sezky/kde-tux/'
[01:54] <sezky> what does that mean?
[01:54] <ubuntu> Seek_Therapy: Yes but if it's not a support problem then it detracts from people who want help
[01:54] <sezky> i thought cp was for copy
[01:54] <stdin> Seek_Therapy: consider this your last warning
[01:54] <ubuntu> offtopic has no problems with discussions
[01:54] <ubuntu> sezky: Yes it copies files
[01:55] <vlt> sezky: cp -r includes subdirs too, cp -a prevents time and privileges
[01:55] <ubuntu> cp -r copies directories
[01:55] <kcg> hitmanWilly, ok, well i will give it a shot, hopefully it won't mess up my distro
[01:55] <Seek_Therapy> weird!!!!!! bye
[01:55] <sezky> oh okay i was just missing the -r
[01:55] <winbond> Seek_Therapy, u know, for people like u there is windows
[01:55] <ubuntu> winbond: no need to start that
[01:56] <vlt> 7lastlog vlt
[01:56] <vlt> sorry
[01:56] <ardchoille> I mean, jeez.. if my 8 year old niece can happily use kubuntu daily, then..
[01:57] <ubuntu> ardchoille: 8 yo do everything happily all day
[01:57] <ardchoille> lol
[01:57] <dudeicles> ardchoille: don't compare your computer knowledge to an 8 year olds
[01:57] <dudeicles> LOL
[01:57] <sstchur> how would I go about setting up kde4 beta in kubuntu?  I ran sudo aptitude kde4base, but that's as far as I got, and I still seem to be using kde 3.5.x
[01:58] <dudeicles> we're nothing compared to our kids. LOL
[01:58] <ubuntu> sstchur: there is a tutorial on http://kubuntu.org
[01:58] <dudeicles> sometimes I think my 3 year old knows more.
[01:58] <sstchur> err, sudo aptitude install kde4base i meant
[01:58] <stdin> sstchur: see the /topic
[01:58] <sstchur> ok, I will check
[01:58] <ubuntu> Or that :)
[01:58] <RichardBH> hi - is there any easy way to find out whether im using feisty or gutsy?
[01:59] <ardchoille> RichardBH: lsb_release -a
[01:59] <dudeicles> ardchoille: how do you folks rmember this stuff?
[01:59] <dudeicles> LOL
[02:00] <ardchoille> dudeicles: I've been using Linux since 2001
[02:00] <hitmanWilly> RichardBH probably feisty unless you deliberately installed/upgraded to gutsy
[02:00] <ubuntu> dudeicles: He asks his 8 yo :)
[02:00] <ardchoille> ubuntu: lol
[02:00] <RichardBH> ardchoille: thanks
[02:00] <ardchoille> RichardBH: yw
[02:00] <dudeicles> ubuntu: LOL
[02:00] <dudeicles> yeah i'm going on full week tomorrow
[02:00] <RichardBH> hitmanWilly: i ran the python script to upgrade in the ubuntu forum howto, i just wanted to see whether it did or not
[02:00] <dudeicles> that's how long i've been using Linux
[02:00] <ubuntu> Anyone knows how I can map my multimedia keys to my speakers?
[02:00] <ardchoille> dudeicles: The more you use the cli, the more you memorise and the faster you get. It's the folks who don't like the cli that complain about it being too hard.
[02:01] <ubuntu> RichardBH: Check if you have Dolphin
[02:01] <RichardBH> hitmanWilly: and thats a no :(
[02:01] <ubuntu> RichardBH: are you sure you want to be on Gutsy?
[02:01] <dudeicles> ardchoille: I understand. I guess you're right. I realized today that I know how to install more software than I though. LOL
[02:01] <hitmanWilly> RichardBH you may have to reboot for the upgrade to take effect
[02:01] <RichardBH> hitmanWilly: i did
[02:01] <hitmanWilly> oh, ok then
[02:02] <ardchoille> RichardBH: Gutsy is still in beta, problems should be expected and you might wanna join #ubuntu+1
[02:02] <RichardBH> ubuntu - this is a really old pc, so i only use it for IM/browsing
[02:02] <dudeicles> do you have to reboot after installing KDE on to Ubuntu?
[02:02] <ubuntu> RichardBH: ok then join #ubuntu+1
[02:02] <ubuntu> they will help you
[02:02] <hitmanWilly> dudeicles no
[02:02] <RichardBH> stdin has managed to get a newer version of kopete on gutsy - thats basically all i want :P
[02:02] <RichardBH> ok, thanks
[02:02] <ubuntu> dudeicles: No You only reboot for a new kernel
[02:02] <ardchoille> dudeicles: no. You can choose a new de or wm from the kdm screen
[02:02] <ubuntu>  and technically libc6
[02:02] <dudeicles> oh ok
[02:03] <hitmanWilly> dudeicles the only time you should really need to reboot are for kernel upgrades
[02:03] <dudeicles> then I just need to log off
[02:03] <ubuntu> dudeicles: Yes just choose it at the login screen
[02:03] <dudeicles> got ya
[02:03] <dudeicles> wasn't sure if it required a reboot
[02:04] <sumguy231> ubuntu: About your multimedia keys, maybe you could look at the hotkeys package. I've never successfully used it, though I've tried. It depends on your keyboard.
[02:04] <RichardBH> ubuntu - unless...is there a way to access the gutsy repositories, and if i installed something from them is there -any- chance it would work on feisty?
[02:04] <ubuntu> sumguy231: here is the thing
[02:04] <ubuntu> It's already mapped to my sound
[02:05] <ubuntu>  just to my headphone port instead of my speaker
[02:05] <ardchoille> RichardBH: Mixing repos like that is almost sure to cause you problems. Please refrain from mixing.
[02:05] <ubuntu> RichardBH: Yes
[02:05] <RichardBH> ardchoille: lol, ok
[02:05] <ubuntu> RichardBH: Second part. No
[02:05] <dudeicles> brb
[02:05] <RichardBH> lol
[02:05] <sumguy231> Oh, I misunderstood the question then. You have a separate headphone port?
[02:05] <RichardBH> ill stick custom-emoticon less until gutsy is properly release then :P
[02:06] <ubuntu> sumguy231: Yeah
[02:06] <ubuntu> sumguy231: Which of course I don't use
[02:06] <ubuntu> RichardBH: Just install the emoticons
[02:06] <sumguy231> What's so special about it that prevents you from connecting a speaker?
[02:07] <sumguy231> I'm just really confused about that.
[02:07] <Seek_Therapy> Stop booting me and grow the hell up..all you did was screw up my damn irc client as i was about to lease....there needs to be an age limit on who can be an Op. Now leave me alone, I am frustrated enough
[02:07] <ubuntu> Settings -> configure -> Appearance -> Get New Themes
[02:07] <ubuntu> RichardBH: ^^^
[02:07] <ubuntu> sumguy231: laptop
[02:07] <ubuntu> sumguy231: Built in speakers
[02:07] <RichardBH> ubuntu- ah, but i cant add my own ones there - only ones peolpe have packaged into themes
[02:07] <ardchoille> stdin: ty :)
[02:07] <sumguy231> Oh, got it. I knew it was something obvious like that.
[02:08] <ubuntu> RichardBH: Oh you can make up your own on Gutsy?
[02:08] <ubuntu> Oh right of course you can I'm on Gutsy
[02:08] <ubuntu> duuuh
[02:08] <RichardBH> ubuntu - apparently the 0.12.5 version of kopete on gutsy has a theme editor thing, so you can, whereas the same version on feisty doesnt appear to
[02:09] <marco> =
[02:09] <ubuntu> Yeah I'm looking at it now
[02:10] <Dhraakellian> hmm...
[02:12] <suberman98> hi
[02:12] <Dhraakellian> installing kdebase-workspace only installs a very minimal amount, I take it?
[02:12] <ardchoille> Dhraakellian: What did you intend to install? The desktop?
[02:14] <ardchoille> Dhraakellian: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop    <-- that will install the kde desktop environment if that's what you wanted
[02:14] <Dhraakellian> nononono... trying to play around with the KDE4 beta
[02:15] <ardchoille> Ah, ok
[02:15] <Dhraakellian> hmm...
[02:15] <dudeicles> woohoo
[02:15] <dudeicles> i'm back
[02:16] <dudeicles> no no please nobody get up. LOL
[02:21] <Dhraakellian> think I'll just go in with synaptic and install every non-dev KDE package that has a version number of 3.93
[02:23] <hitmanWilly> Dhraakellian ok, see you in a couple of days...
[02:24] <Dhraakellian> hehheh...
[02:24] <Dhraakellian> I can see freenode from both computers
[02:24] <Dhraakellian> only the laptop is getting the KDE4 installation
[02:25] <Dhraakellian> irssi-proxy++
[02:25] <hitmanWilly> ok, still, that'll take awhile
[02:26] <hitmanWilly> Dhraakellian it could be worse, you could be doing this on a gentoo box :P
[02:26] <Dhraakellian> heh
[02:26] <Dhraakellian> been there
[02:26] <Dhraakellian> done that
[02:26] <hitmanWilly> Dhraakellian well, i still like mine :)
[02:26] <Dhraakellian> if the pattern holds, I'll be doing it again by the end of february
[02:26] <hitmanWilly> Dhraakellian run gentoo on the desk, kubu on the lappy :)
[02:26] <Dhraakellian> (year and a half of Gentoo, six months or so of something else, then back to gentoo
[02:26] <Dhraakellian> )
[02:26] <Dhraakellian> yeah, probably
[02:27] <hitmanWilly> Dhraakellian that's what I do anyway
[02:27] <Dhraakellian> although it'll probably be more like primary distro on the desktop, testing distro on the laptop
[02:27] <Dhraakellian> I have kubuntu on both currently, but only the laptop is getting KDE4
[02:28] <tinin> Hi, will kubuntu gutsy support compiz?
[02:28] <hitmanWilly> well, i built my desktop piece by piece, so i figured why not the os too :)
[02:28] <hitmanWilly> tinin it should, at least to some extent
[02:28] <hitmanWilly> tinin it supports it now, but compiz is still very beta
[02:29] <Dhraakellian> and KWin can already do the basic transparency stuff
[02:29] <hitmanWilly> its fake transparency, tho
[02:29] <Dhraakellian> no idea how much better compiz does it, but kwin's works for me?
[02:29] <Dhraakellian> really?
[02:30] <tinin> compiz will be oficially supported in ubuntu, but on kde it still sucks, I was just wondering if they were going to fix all those bugs on kde
[02:30] <Dhraakellian> actually, kwin does do true transparency
[02:30] <hitmanWilly> Dhraakellian yeah, put a transparent window over top of another one and see if the underlying window shows up or the desktop
[02:30] <Dhraakellian> no idea if it's doing it the 'proper' way with composite, but it *is* true transparency
[02:30] <tinin> the pager and the taskbar do not work well by now
[02:31] <hitmanWilly> if its the desktop and not the underlying window, then its fake
[02:31] <Dhraakellian> hitmanWilly: kcontrol > desktop > window behavior > translucency
[02:31] <Dhraakellian> hitmanWilly: it's true transparency, man
[02:32] <Dhraakellian> Konsole's built-in transparency is fake
[02:32] <tinin> and konsole, yakuake or katapult should look ok with real transparency
[02:32] <tinin> now sux
[02:32] <Dhraakellian> as is xchat's (not that it's a KDE app, of course)
[02:32] <Dhraakellian> but yes, KWin does offer true transparency
[02:33] <tinin> Dhraakellian, are you able to run konsole or katapult with transparency under kde'
[02:33] <tinin> ?
[02:34] <Dhraakellian> yes
[02:34] <tinin> could you tell me how?
[02:34] <Dhraakellian> granted it's full window transparency instead of just in the text area
[02:34] <Dhraakellian> if you want just the text area transparent, I think you have to go with konsole's own pseudotransparency
[02:35] <Dhraakellian> tinin: kcontrol > desktop > window behavior > translucency
[02:35] <tinin> I found gnome-terminal looks much better than konsole with compiz
[02:35] <Dhraakellian> tinin: using kwin
[02:35] <tinin> mmm, I must confess I'm using gnome these days, because of that problems
[02:36] <tinin> I'd like to go back, but I like how compiz runs much better for now on gnome
[02:36] <tinin> I readed kwin will get it's own effects too on kde45
[02:36] <tinin> kde4
[02:37] <Dhraakellian> well, it's not much for effects
[02:37] <Dhraakellian> but the basic transparency and shadows are already available in KDE3
 and how de you do to get the taskbar to show the windows from the current workspace only with compiz?
[02:38] <Dhraakellian> no idea
[02:38] <Dhraakellian> I don't use compiz
[02:38] <tinin> ok
[02:38] <Dhraakellian> I just use kwin
[02:38] <stdin> tinin: you can't
[02:38] <tinin> you should have said
[02:38] <Dhraakellian> tinin: I've been talking all along about how to get transparency and such with *kwin*
[02:38] <tinin> ok
[02:39] <tinin> you use weird words sometimes for an spanish, sorry XD
[02:39] <Dhraakellian> heh
[02:40] <Dhraakellian> your english is certainly better than my spanish
[02:41] <lufis> The kde packages in gutsy's repos are kde4 beta packages, right?
[02:42] <tinin> I've been trying to use compiz, beryl or compiz fusion under kde since the begining. I now those errors are gone on kde4, but there's still too much time left to use it
[02:42] <Dhraakellian> with KDE4, from what I understand, KWin does most/all of it itself anyway
[02:43] <Dhraakellian> in KDE3 (on kubuntu, at leastI haven't checked with other distros) it just does translucency and shadows
[02:46] <tinin> yeah, translucency and shadows work good, ok. But there are lots of bugs on how some things should be shown, small but very uncomfortable bugs. And you realize that it is much more polished for gnome
[02:47] <bobbyyu> I have a Ubuntu problem
[02:47] <bobbyyu> Should I type it here?
[02:48] <stdin> yeah :)
[02:48] <Dhraakellian> tinin: I can take a little lack of polish on the shinies as long as the rest of my features still work and are included
[02:48] <bobbyyu> WHen I print through the network printer, it says "paused: job-hold-until-specified"
[02:48] <winbond> how good is that free flash, cause the piece of crap adobe crash is really pissing me off
[02:48] <Dhraakellian> ...but that's straying into an area where we don't really want to go in this channel
[02:49] <Dhraakellian> gnash?
[02:49] <stdin> winbond: not as good as adobe's, only about flash7 level now
[02:49] <stdin> but making progress
[02:50] <winbond> that adobe crap keeps crashing everything
[02:50] <winbond> whats the name of it?
[02:51] <stdin> bobbyyu: that's normally means that it can't communicate with the server/printer
[02:51] <stdin> winbond: gnash
[02:51] <tinin> Dhraakellian, what i like the most of compiz is not the shini, is the usability, it is very easy to switch and eek the apps and all the windows
[02:51] <winbond> thansk
[02:52] <Dhraakellian> tinin: I still like being able to maximize vertically or horizontally with a single click on the titlebar
[02:52] <bobbyyu> What's the cause?
[02:52] <Dhraakellian> and various other niceties that kwin has
[02:53] <stdin> bobbyyu: can be a few things, like the printer being off, or just that the printer isn't setup right on your system
 that is able to do in compiz, and much more nicely btw
[02:53] <tinin> look at this
[02:53] <tinin> http://fearlexworld.com/2007/06/02/kde-4-kwin-retando-a-berylcompiz/
[02:53] <tinin> those are some things they were working on for kwin in kde4
[02:53] <Dhraakellian> middle-click and right-click (respectively) on the maximize button
[02:54] <tinin> all customizable
[02:54] <bobbyyu> Isn't set up right? I installed the drivers
[02:55] <dudeicles> anyone here use MAME?
[02:55] <dudeicles> or know of a good replacement for MAME32?
[02:57] <coreymon77> dudeicles: apt-cache search is your best fried
[02:57] <Dhraakellian> nice
[02:57] <dudeicles> but what am I looking for?
[02:58] <bobbyyu> What should I do?
[02:58] <coreymon77> dudeicles: its called a keyword
[02:58] <coreymon77> dudeicles: try searching for mame
[02:58] <dudeicles> got ya
[02:58] <dudeicles> wasn't sure what that was
[02:59] <dudeicles> i apologize for sounding like a complete idiot
[03:00] <bobbyyu> stdin: What should I do?
[03:00] <sven__> Hi there, Im using kubuntu 7.04, and Im trying to do a full upgrade with adept manager, it downloads, installs, and then says it could not install because of some conflicts.. then it crashes.. any idea on how to fix this?
[03:00] <stdin> bobbyyu: go through the setup again, and print a test page too see if it's working
[03:00] <bobbyyu> I've setup the device drivers
[03:00] <bobbyyu> I've done a thousand times.
[03:01] <stdin> bobbyyu: have you tried printing a test page to see if they are working?
[03:01] <bobbyyu> That's where the error came in
[03:02] <bobbyyu> Sorry if I sound impatient
[03:04] <bobbyyu> I'm using a Lexmark Z600 driver
[03:05] <bobbyyu> I've been able to print before
[03:05] <bobbyyu> But I formatted my Ubuntu space and had to install 180 MB worth of updates after reinstalling Ubuntu
[03:06] <bobbyyu> Is there something in the printers.conf that I should edit?
[03:07] <sven__> anyone on how I can do a full upgrade with adept manager without it running into conflicts?
[03:07] <stdin> bobbyyu: try having a look at http://www.stat.tamu.edu/~henrik/GSPSprinter/GSPSprinter.html
[03:09] <bobbyyu> What is a Postscript?
[03:09] <andresj> bobbyyu: postscript is a document format, like pdf; but it is used for printing
[03:10] <bobbyyu> OK, thank you stdin and andresj, I'll try it
[03:11] <andresj> sven_, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading talks about upgrading ubuntu; it should not be too different doing it in kubuntu
[03:11] <Dhraakellian> okay, my kde4 desktop looks... crappy
[03:12] <stdin> Dhraakellian: no launcher bar?
[03:12] <Dhraakellian> there's a bar at the bottom
[03:12] <stdin> Dhraakellian: but it has 2 boxes with something like "object not found" ?
[03:13] <Dhraakellian> "This object could not be created."
[03:13] <Dhraakellian> yeah
[03:13] <_2> i'm looking for a good way to make a disk bootable.    can i just copy the mbr from a bootable disk... no that wont work cause the kernel may be at a different address.      thoughts ?
[03:13] <stdin> Dhraakellian:  yeah, sorry, but that's KDE beta2 right there
[03:13] <Dhraakellian> aha
[03:14] <Dhraakellian> so...
[03:14] <stdin> so that's it, enjoy beta2 :)
[03:14] <hitmanWilly> _2 i think there's a bootdisk util somewhere
[03:14] <_2> box will not boot from CD  will boot from floppys,  but not grub.  all grub will do is reset it.     so maybe floppy with loadlin and a kernel initramfs pair that will fit on floppies...
[03:15] <stdin> Dhraakellian: you can still start apps from krunner (alt-f2)
[03:15] <andresj> _2: http://www.linux-live.org/ http://reconstructor.aperantis.com/ and there is also a page in the ubuntu wiki
[03:16] <Dhraakellian> shortcut isn't working
[03:16] <Dhraakellian> context menu entry is
[03:16] <andresj> _2, or maybe you are looking for isolinux (http://syslinux.zytor.com/iso.php)
[03:16] <_2> andresj no mention of floppy boot on first link
[03:17] <_2> syslinux   yes maybe.   but how to make the hd bootable is the Q
[03:17] <hitmanWilly> _2 you may be able to install lilo on the bootdisk and have it reference the cd img...
[03:17] <hitmanWilly> or the hdd
[03:17] <christopher> I just installed Kubuntu, how do I get compiz-fusion
[03:18] <_2> hitmanWilly hmmm maybe...  that sounds convoluted enough it just might work.
[03:18] <hitmanWilly> heh
[03:18] <stdin> christopher: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[03:18] <manikfox> anyone know an easy way to get all the dev packages... perl, gtk, base, etc?
[03:18] <hitmanWilly> i think lilo should be able to do that, or grub should fit on a fd
[03:18] <Zaelore> anyone here good with powerppc?
[03:18] <christopher> stdin, thank you
[03:18] <Zaelore> *powerpc
[03:19] <Zaelore> kubuntu won't see all the memory in my computer, ibook g4
[03:19] <_2> hitmanWilly but grub just resets the box
[03:19] <hitmanWilly> _2, ok, then lilo then :)
[03:19] <stdin> !anyone | Zaelore
[03:19] <ubotu> Zaelore: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:20] <_2> it boots the bios and grub loading stage 1.5 boots the bios and grub loading stage 1.5 and boots the bios...
[03:20] <manikfox> anyone know an easy way to get all the dev packages... perl, gtk, base, etc?
[03:20] <Zaelore> open adept search for perl dev, gtk dev, base dev?
[03:21] <hitmanWilly> manikfox well, apt-get install *-dev, but that would take forever and a day to install
[03:21] <manikfox> yeah, but I'm not sure which ones to install... I just want them all
[03:21] <_2> hitmanWilly and to make matters worse i also formated the drive (not a partition) so now grub would be useless if it could load.
[03:21] <manikfox> hitmanWilly: how much space? less than a few GBs?
[03:22] <Zaelore> how can I test my memory in ubuntu?
[03:22] <hitmanWilly> manikfox a lot, since that installs the source for everything on ubuntu that's available, which is A LOT
[03:22] <_2> Zaelore tell us the first time you saw ubuntu   what did you eat that day ????
[03:23] <_2> Zaelore or you can test the computers memory with   memtest-86 at boot time
[03:23] <hitmanWilly> Zaelore hit esc while grub is booting, then select memtest86 from the boot options
[03:23] <Zaelore> i'm not running on an x86 processer
[03:23] <Zaelore> would it still work?
[03:23] <_2> ppc ?
[03:23] <Zaelore> yes
[03:23] <_2> don't think so
[03:24] <Zaelore> yeah >_X
[03:24] <BluesKaj> what's the command for unpacking wavpack files ?
[03:24] <_2> you can try it...   it "shouldn't" explode if it doesn't work
[03:24] <Zaelore> I tried $ sudo nvsetenv
[03:25] <Zaelore> and got ram-size=0x48000000
[03:25] <Zaelore> which translates to roughtly the right amount of memory
[03:26] <Zaelore> I will try reboot + esc and see if I can find anything
[03:26] <BluesKaj> nowhere in the man pages does wavpack say what the decompress command is .
[03:27] <BluesKaj> even on the wavpack site there's nothing
[03:27] <Dhraakellian> stdin: you sure this is how it's supposed to be?
[03:28] <stdin> Dhraakellian: yep
[03:28] <binvij> Hi .. i am getting the following error while changing date - su returned with an error, on my new install of kubuntu
[03:28] <andresj> I am trying to install Compiz Fusion as described in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion . but it says that compiz-kde depends on a package that does not exist (libcompizconfig-backend-kconfig)... anyone know if there is another repository I have to add, or otherwise how can I install compiz fusion?
[03:28] <Dhraakellian> hmm... shortcuts don't appear to be working
[03:28] <rixxon> I did a "chmod 600 ~" and now it's all fucked. Help? :P
[03:28] <rixxon> Sorry for the bad language there.
[03:29] <binvij> previously i got an error - conversation with su failed
[03:30] <Zaelore> h'mm didn't help, esc would not quit the booting process
[03:30] <andresj> rixxon: sudo chmod u+rw ~; sudo chmod a+r ~
[03:30] <hitmanWilly> binvij are you using su or sudo?
[03:30] <rixxon> andresj: I want to lock my home from other users
[03:31] <stdin> Zaelore: looked at http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/utils/memtester ?
[03:31] <hitmanWilly> rixxon it is by default
[03:31] <binvij> i am just right clicking on my time display and saying adjust date & time
[03:31] <hitmanWilly> rixxon except for root
[03:31] <rixxon> hitmanWilly: my newly added guest could read my real users directory, and the contents of the files.
[03:31] <andresj> rixxon, then: sudo chmod -R a-rw; sudo chmod -R u+rw
[03:31] <rixxon> chmod 700 ~ solved it anyway
[03:31] <hitmanWilly> rixxon that's weird
[03:31] <rixxon> Why does home need to be executable?
[03:31] <binvij> is this a bug...
[03:32] <binvij> its my new install
[03:32] <hitmanWilly> rixxon in case you have any personal apps in there
[03:32] <andresj> when the executable bit is set to a directory, it means that it can be listed
[03:32] <rixxon> hitmanWilly: but when I had it as 600, no files could be even read!
[03:33] <hitmanWilly> rixxon yeah, it needs it to list files as well
[03:33] <rixxon> oh, +x is list for dirs?
[03:33] <rixxon> thought +r would do that
[03:33] <hitmanWilly> rixxon yes, when you cd to a dir, you are executing that dir
[03:33] <rixxon> okies. thanks then.
[03:33] <binvij> any suggestions ?
[03:33] <francisco> uy
[03:34] <binvij> i see the following bug -Bug #88257 in kdebase:
[03:35] <hokatichenci> I just did a fresh kubuntu install on a laptop, and I'm trying to edit the login manager but no matter what settings I change I always get the default kubuntu kdm, which is incredibly annoying
[03:35] <_2> what's the syntax for xmessage buttons ?    is it  >>>xmessage -buttons yes:2,no:255 "text here"<<<  anyone ?
[03:35] <francisco__> 
[03:35] <andresj> _2. man xmessage
[03:36] <Dhraakellian> how would I get to KDE settings in KDE4?
[03:36] <hitmanWilly> _2 hold on, lemme check right quick...
[03:36] <andresj> Dhraakellian: KDE 4's settings are in the program 'systemsettings'
[03:37] <_2> andresj  are you always this debian minded ?
[03:38] <hitmanWilly> _2, ok, all the number is is the exit value when the button is clicked, just like the exit bash cmd
[03:38] <andresj> haha, I don't know what exactly do you mean by debian minded, but I just figured it was simple to just look in the man page...
[03:38] <_2> hitmanWilly yes and that is the syntax   correct   you dont add the  []    ?
[03:38] <hitmanWilly> not that i can tell
[03:39] <_2> hitmanWilly k thanks.
[03:39] <hitmanWilly> i think the : handles that
[03:39] <binvij> is there a known issue with kubuntu fresh install for the error "su returned with an error"- there seems to be no solution
[03:40] <hitmanWilly> binvij you might try setting an actual root passwd
[03:40] <hokatichenci> Anyone? Is KDM just totally forced to theme to kubuntu?
[03:40] <binvij> hmm
[03:40] <binvij> thanks. let me check that
[03:41] <hitmanWilly> binvij honestly, sounds like /etc/sudoers is messed up
[03:41] <hitmanWilly> binvij or your current acct isn't in the admin group
[03:42] <binvij> yes ...but how to add that now since even in the User Management, i get  the same error when i try to switch to Administrator Modee
[03:43] <hitmanWilly> binvij type groups in a konsole window and see if admin pops up
[03:45] <_2> binvij you are not trying to use "su" are you ?   try sudo.  kdesu,  or gksudo
[03:46] <_2> oh disreguard.
[03:46] <hitmanWilly> _2, no, its when he tries to go into administrator mode (kdesu)
[03:46] <_2> i'm slow
[03:46] <_2> yeah group issue.    boot failsafe mode and add the user to the "admin" group
[03:46] <binvij> yes
[03:47] <binvij>  i tried using "groups" .. that shows me "root
[03:48] <binvij> and i also tried adding myself /etc/sudoers like -> username ALL=(ALL) ALL
[03:48] <binvij> this has not changed anything
[03:49] <binvij> do i need to reboot my box ?
[03:49] <hitmanWilly> binvij logout and log back in
[03:49] <binvij> sure.. let me do that ... brb
[03:51] <_2> and how did you edit /etc/* without root perms ???
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[03:53] <hitmanWilly> well, when he did groups, i just noticed he said something about being in the root group....
[03:57] <christopher> ok, i've got everything installed for compiz-fusion but I cant get compiz-kde installed
[03:58] <christopher> compiz-kde:
[03:58] <christopher>  Depends: libcompizconfig-backend-kconfig  but it is not installable
[03:59] <christopher> in other words i'm using compiz but no decorations
[04:00] <vsudilov> can anyone help me set up OpenGL on my system that uses nvidia-legacy drivers?
[04:00] <binvij> hitmanWilly- Got it fixed . Thanks :-)
[04:01] <andresj> christopher, I have the same problem ;)
[04:01] <christopher> hmmm
[04:02] <christopher> the instructions I have says to add to repositories, the first one works, the second says it's out of date or no longer exists
[04:02] <hitmanWilly> binvij ok\
[04:04] <christopher> andresj, I take it, you haven't gotten anywhere with it then?
[04:05] <andresj> christopher, in adept manager, I selected the packages the guide tells me to install, but when I select compiz-kde, it says Broken
[04:05] <andresj> so I am still using beryl :)
[04:05] <christopher> right, me too
[04:05] <christopher> so to just use beryl, do I need to uninstal anything?
[04:06] <andresj> I don't think so, I have compiz fusion installed partially; and I am running beryl...
[04:06] <_aaa> Which printer is best to use with Ubuntu7.04?
[04:06] <christopher> alright, I will give it a shot, so is compiz fusion still in beta then or what?
[04:07] <andresj> no idea
[04:07] <stdin> if you have emerald still installed you can use that with fusion by running "emerald --replace"
[04:08] <christopher> oh
[04:08] <christopher> then I will try that
[04:08] <christopher> that works, thanks
[04:09] <christopher> how do I get all that to startup when starting kde, or do i have too
[04:09] <Psycoshot> Hey,
[04:10] <Psycoshot> chris, whats your question?
[04:10] <stdin> christopher:  if you want it to start with kde, put that command in a file and make it executable, then put it in ~/.kde/Autostart
[04:10] <Psycoshot> I might have the same
[04:10] <_2> is there a way to change the font face of an xmessage   the text is so tiny it doesn't look important...   ?
[04:10] <_2> stdin  ^   ?
[04:11] <christopher> ok thank you stdin
[04:11] <christopher> you have been very helpful, hopefully I can return the favor
[04:11] <stdin> _2: don't think so, I think it's a compiled in choice
[04:11] <hitmanWilly> _2 not that i see...
[04:11] <_2> k    thanks guys
[04:12] <Psycoshot> Who here is good with scripts?? I need one that starts: cairo-clock, emerald --replace, compiz --replace and kiba-dock
[04:12] <Psycoshot> when I boot up.
[04:13] <_2> Psycoshot just put those things one per line  in a plain text file   and make it executable
[04:13] <_2> Psycoshot just like you would type them in a console
[04:13] <Psycoshot> how do I make it an executable
[04:14] <_2> konqueror right click it.
[04:14] <manikfox> properties
[04:14] <manikfox> executable
[04:14] <andresj> Psycoshot, and put the script in ~/.kde/Autostart
[04:14] <Psycoshot> Yay ill try
[04:14] <stdin> Psycoshot: you may want to put a " &" after those commands too
[04:14] <_2> Psycoshot or   chmod 755 filename   from the konsole
[04:15] <_2> stdin only if they tie up the konsole when typed there   (said for Psycoshot's benifit)
[04:15] <stdin> well I know compiz and emerald will
[04:16] <Psycoshot> How do I put like pauses inbetween commands
[04:16] <_2> sleep #
[04:16] <Psycoshot> ah right
[04:17] <stdin> eg: sleep 2
[04:17] <_2> where # is the number of seconds
[04:17] <Psycoshot> so eg
[04:17] <andresj> you can also use float numbers (0.5)
[04:17] <Psycoshot> emerald --replace
[04:17] <Psycoshot> sleep 5 &
[04:17] <Psycoshot> compiz --replace
[04:18] <Psycoshot> Not sure on the &
[04:18] <stdin> not quite
[04:18] <_2> yeah i didn't specify "whole" numbers andresj
[04:18] <andresj> Pyscoshot, put & on the other lines. do not put it on sleep
[04:18] <_2> Psycoshot the  ampersand is on the wrong command.
[04:18] <andresj> _2, haha all right. just adding information :)
[04:18] <Psycoshot> emerald --replace &
[04:18] <Psycoshot> sleep 5
[04:18] <Psycoshot> compiz --replace
[04:18] <Psycoshot> ?
[04:19] <_2> yes
[04:19] <Psycoshot> ok
[04:19] <stdin> Psycoshot: yeah, and another & after compiz --replace if you want to put more commands after it
[04:19] <andresj> & makes the script to not wait for the program to finish, so if you put it on sleep, it won't have any effect
[04:19] <Psycoshot> Ok thanks
[04:20] <_2> and if there is anything after compiz background it too.   that is end the line with &    that will drop the process to the background and move to the next line, as opposed to waiting for the exit of the command.
[04:20] <hitmanWilly> _2, just had a thought, does xmessage accept utf codes?
[04:20] <Psycoshot> brb gonna test
[04:20] <_2> idk...  but not on the buttons i'm sure.
[04:20] <hitmanWilly> oh well, worth a try...
[04:21] <_2> i guess i could resize the desktop to 640x480 then message it...  that would work....  :)
[04:23] <kitsunepaws> hihi
[04:23] <hitmanWilly> _2, lol
[04:23] <kitsunepaws> How
[04:23] <kitsunepaws> are you?
[04:24] <kitsunepaws> grr
[04:25] <hitmanWilly> kitsunepaws do you have an issue?
[04:25] <kitsunepaws> yeah
[04:25] <hitmanWilly> well, ask away
[04:25] <kitsunepaws> I hoping perhaps somebody can help
[04:25] <kitsunepaws> I'm using onboard 6100 video
[04:26] <kitsunepaws> with a CTX
[04:26] <kitsunepaws> monitor
[04:26] <kitsunepaws> I want 1600x1200
[04:26] <kitsunepaws> but cant get kubuntu to co-operate
[04:26] <hitmanWilly> kitsunepaws does the card/monitor support it?
[04:26] <kitsunepaws> yup
[04:27] <hitmanWilly> kitsunepaws ok, pastebin the contents of /etc/X11/xorg.conf please
[04:27] <kitsunepaws> sure
[04:27] <hitmanWilly> !pastebin | kitsunepaws
[04:27] <ubotu> kitsunepaws: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:27] <_2> hitmanWilly stdin i was working on a way to flag a remote user with a question over ssh before affecting their box   this i what i have developed.   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39432
[04:27] <kitsunepaws> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36850/
[04:29] <hitmanWilly> kitsunepaws hmmm, should be working...
[04:29] <kitsunepaws> yeah.. i wish it would..
[04:29] <hitmanWilly> kitsunepaws did you try changing the res via control center?
[04:29] <kitsunepaws> yeah
[04:29] <stdin> _2: nice, I've played with something like that before
[04:30] <kitsunepaws> 1024 is as high as i can get
[04:30] <kitsunepaws> @54 HZ
[04:30] <hitmanWilly> hmmm, definately strange
[04:30] <stdin> _2: you just have to make sure they have the right xhost command somewhere in their startup
[04:30] <mark105> man i have the weirdest problem, i booted of live cd to install, sweet had X goin n all, installed it, X dont work, reconfigure X still dont work, bugger it ill verify my cd, its sweet, ok ill reinstall, now X on install dont work either, now i dunno wat to do
[04:31] <_2> stdin yes that's taken care of
[04:32] <vsudilov> could anyone help with my attempts to install OpenGL support on my system? Shouldn't it come with the nvidia-legacy drivers ???
[04:32] <kitsunepaws> Can somebody please show me how I can tell X11 what resolution I wish to use?
[04:32] <mark105> all i get is a black screen, no cursor, cant even alt+F key back to console or alt+ctrl+F key, weird
[04:32] <BorisYaltsin> Hi, how do I resize a reiserfs partition?
[04:32] <kitsunepaws> gparted
[04:32] <kitsunepaws> :)
[04:33] <BorisYaltsin> from the command line..
[04:33] <BorisYaltsin> from the text installer actually.
[04:34] <_2> mark105 kernel args   noacpi nosplash quiet              and see what happens
[04:35] <_2> mark105 might through in a vga=0x0f05   for good measure
[04:36] <_2> throw
[04:36] <_2> pitch   toss   chuck    fling ....
[04:37] <hydrogen> boring.
[04:45] <BluesKaj> interesting , K3B converts various audio formats , if the plugins are configured to decode them
[04:48] <_2> hmmmm i don't know if i am going to be able to build a router out of that 486 or not....    i know i can if i can ever get a bootable linux installed...   it's the installing on a system that can't boot a cd and has only 32m ram   that is giving me fits.
[04:49] <_2> ummm   i got it.     pull the hd install on another box and replace it.....
[04:50] <aaron> hello can someone please PM me i need help installing programs on Kubuntu!!
[04:51] <aaron> hello can someone please PM me i need help installing programs on Kubuntu!!
[04:51] <savetheWorld> no
[04:51] <aaron> hello can someone please PM me i need help installing programs on Kubuntu!!
[04:51] <_2> aaron    adept.  aptitude  and apt-get  are package management tools.
[04:51] <savetheWorld> aaron: generally the way to go is to ask your question right here in the channel.
[04:51] <aaron> oh k
[04:51] <aaron> thx
[04:52] <Flatfender> I'm trying to play MP3's from an external hard drive, but when I open one it doesn't play regardless of what media player I use.
[04:52] <savetheWorld> taht way everyone can help or learn from it.
[04:52] <aaron> ok
[04:52] <savetheWorld> Flatfender: what happens when you open an MP3 thats on the internal drive?
[04:52] <_2> Flatfender do the work locally ?
[04:53] <thomas> does anyone know the best way to access windows folders on another disk on my computer? Should I use Samba?
[04:53] <aaron> i am running KDE on ubuntu and i need help installing Firefox thanks
[04:53] <savetheWorld> thomas: no.  Samba is network only
[04:53] <_2> thomas not for a local mount.
[04:53] <_2> !ntfs | thomas
[04:53] <ubotu> thomas: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:53] <savetheWorld> aaron: apt-get instal firefox?
[04:53] <aaron> ok ill try
[04:54] <Flatfender> savetheWorld, it does the same thing
[04:54] <thomas> _2: I already have ntfs-3g0 installed
[04:54] <lascar> (and i need internet access)
[04:54] <_2> aaron in a konsole issue this command.    sudo apt-get install firefox
[04:54] <savetheWorld> thomas: mount that file system as NTFS
[04:54] <savetheWorld> Flatfender: get any error messages?
[04:55] <will_> can someone reccomend a good video player?
[04:55] <aaron> ok i get this message
[04:55] <aaron> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[04:55] <aaron> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[04:55] <will_> I'm very use to windows media player
[04:55] <savetheWorld> will_:  vlc
[04:55] <will_> thanks
[04:55] <savetheWorld> aaron: did you sue sudo?
[04:55] <savetheWorld> err "use sudo"
[04:56] <aaron> oh forgot srry
[04:56] <aaron> lol
[04:56] <_2> aaron ok close other package managers and in a konsole issue this command.    sudo apt-get install firefox
[04:56] <Flatfender> Not that I see, it just opens up lets say in the audio program and doesn't play, it just stops savetheWorld
[04:56] <will_> it says that is a video conferencing tool ?
[04:56] <savetheWorld> weiird
[04:56] <will_> vic listing on repository
[04:57] <_2> will_ vic != vlc
[04:58] <will_> so what am I typing into the repository?
[04:58] <savetheWorld> Flatfender: I have no idea.  At least we have determined it has nothing to do with the external drive
[04:58] <will_> I got some pr0n to watch !
[04:58] <will_> lol
[04:58] <aaron> kool
[04:59] <aaron> ok i cant find a firefox package
[04:59] <_2> !mp3 | Flatfender i don't know what version of ubuntu you have but this might help
[04:59] <ubotu> Flatfender i don't know what version of ubuntu you have but this might help: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:59] <will_> aaron the easiest way is to goto add remove programs
[04:59] <will_> its in there
[04:59] <aaron> ive searched 'firefox mozillafirefox and mozilla
[04:59] <aaron> ok\
[04:59] <jhutchins> will_: vlc or mplayer are the most capable and best working.
[05:00] <jhutchins> will_: Actually, after a little mental training, the command line is easier.
[05:00] <Biovore> mencoder rules all :-p
[05:00] <mahdi> it seems that qtparted doesn't want to let me do anything, even though i'm not booted onto the partition that i'm trying to manipulate, is there some magic dance i need to do first?
[05:00] <jhutchins> aaron: mozilla-firefox
[05:00] <aaron> ok
[05:00] <_2> !info firefox
[05:00] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.0.6+1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 9045 kB, installed size 28668 kB
[05:01] <daskreech> !mp3
[05:01] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:02] <aaron> i ran sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox but all went well, then oop DOH Broken Package
[05:03] <aaron> well for some stupid reason my Add\Remove Programs is not loading
[05:03] <aaron> but my Adept Manager is working !!
[05:03] <thomas> _2: thank you I got it working
[05:03] <thomas> _2: as read only though
[05:04] <thomas> Is there a way to log in as root without issuing the "kdesu konqueror" command in run?
[05:05] <aaron> hmm well i went to getfirefox.com and downloaded a gzipped tar file of version 2.0.0.6 and now what do i do??
[05:05] <aaron> i really hate Konqueror
[05:05] <aaron> lol
[05:06] <_2> thomas sudo -i    in  a console/konsole/terminal  gui root login is rejected by default.  and by default the root password is locked   so "login as root" requires some fixinf
[05:06] <_2> fixing even
[05:07] <_2> thomas also root gui is not worth it.  many things wont work right for root
[05:08] <thomas> _2: essentially though sudo is basically root because you enter root's password to access "root" rights, which doesn't fully make sense to me
[05:08] <_2> sudo switches to the root account yes
[05:08] <_2> but you do "NOT" use the root password for sudo
[05:08] <thomas> _2: well for example I'm the system administrator and want to be able to access all other users files, and the only way is through root correct?
[05:09] <_2> thomas correct
[05:09] <aaron>  hmm well i went to getfirefox.com and downloaded a gzipped tar file of version 2.0.0.6 and now what do i do??
[05:09] <thomas> _2: how would you recommend I go about doing this?
[05:09] <Jucato> !info firefox
[05:09] <_2> delete it and install the .deb package in the repos aaron
[05:09] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.0.6+1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 9045 kB, installed size 28668 kB
[05:10] <stdin> aaron, it's be in the repositories
[05:10] <thomas> aaron: I think you should use adept, isn't it much easier that way
[05:10] <will_> man these players are not playing the mpegs
[05:10] <_2> thomas alt+f2 kdesu konqueror
[05:10] <Bebege> wassup ya'll...
[05:10] <hismajesty> hi
[05:10] <Jucato> !hi
[05:11] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[05:11] <Bebege> anyone here knos how to map a drive for network purposes?
[05:11] <hismajesty> thank u
[05:11] <will_> Um getting a XINE PLAYER NOT RUNNING error with kmplayer
[05:11] <thomas> _2: yes exactly :D, that was my original question, theres no other way to do it but through "run". I want to for example to go and click "home folder" and then be able to either access users files or enter a password....I just figure there should be an easier way
[05:12] <Jucato> thomas: what are you looking for?
[05:12] <_2> thomas you could put a shortcut on the desktop or taskbar
[05:12] <jhutchins> will_: I'm not completely up on these things, the restricted-formats page is better, but kmplayer is crap.  Use mplayer/mplayer-gui instead.
[05:13] <jhutchins> !mp3 | will
[05:13] <ubotu> will: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:13] <Jucato> thomas: there's an Actions -> Edit as Root service menu in Konqueror
[05:13] <thomas> hmm I guess....but I can't allow my username to have root priveleges over other users accounts somehow? wihtout password?
[05:13] <jhutchins> !kdesu
[05:13] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[05:13] <Jucato> jhutchins: hm.. you do know that kmplayer just uses mplayer or xine as backends, right?
[05:13] <_2> drag and drop your little house icon there and right click it in the properties section prepend kdesu to the konqueror file manager string
[05:13] <Jucato> er.. sorry, kmplayer uses mplayer only
[05:13] <jhutchins> Jucato: Yes, and badly.
[05:13] <Jucato> hm.. never had problems with it except one time with .sub's
[05:14] <jhutchins> Jucato: It's not the back end that's the problem, it's the restricted interface.
[05:14] <hismajesty> i'm tired so good night ;D
[05:14] <Jucato> jhutchins: how about kplayer then?
[05:14] <Jucato> I heard kplayer exposes more of mplayer's stuff than kmplayer
[05:14] <thomas> Jucato: no there isn't for me
[05:14] <_2> thomas why are you trying to be a tirant on that box anyway ???    just because you own it, doesn't mean other users want you to play god
[05:15] <thomas> _2: i'm sure system admins would like full control , just like I like to :D
[05:15] <aaron> ok i keep getting a Su returned an error box whenever i try to open Adept
[05:15] <Flatfender> how do I make the bot tell me about the MP3 again?
[05:16] <stdin> !mp3
[05:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:16] <thomas> aaron: whats the error?
[05:16] <Jucato> thomas: you right-click on a text file to get that Actions -> Edit as Root of course
[05:16] <aaron> Su returned an error
[05:16] <serginho> Hi. I'm new in Linux. I have a simple question about rename files, can anyone help me?
[05:16] <stdin> !ask | serginho
[05:16] <ubotu> serginho: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:17] <thomas> Jucato: no but it has a big lock on the folder :S
[05:17] <_2> thomas full control != big brother looking over your shoulder all the time.       i have full control on several boxes,    and for the most part i stay out of other users accounts/homes
[05:17] <aaron> Su returned an error
[05:17] <aaron> Su returned an error
[05:17] <aaron> Su returned an error
[05:17] <aaron> Su returned an error
[05:17] <aaron> Su returned an error
[05:17] <aaron> thats the error
[05:17] <aaron> really
[05:17] <serginho> i have a subdir with lot of sequencial files (foto1.jpg foto2.jpg foto3.jpg...) and need to rename they to foto1p.jpg foto2p.jpg foto3p.jpg...
[05:17] <serginho> but I did now how to do it!
[05:18] <Jucato> !info krename | serginho
[05:18] <ubotu> serginho: krename: Powerful batch renamer for KDE 3.x. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.13-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 330 kB, installed size 1288 kB
[05:18] <aaron> !adept
[05:18] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[05:18] <thomas> _2: well another big reason why i'm trying to do this _2 is because I'm learning linux and am curious
[05:18] <aaron> kool
[05:18] <jhutchins> aaron: You have encountered the fatal weakness in kubuntu's sudo system.
[05:18] <aaron> oh
[05:18] <aaron> how do i fix it
[05:18] <aaron> restart??
[05:18] <serginho> but I was writen a shell script, krename works in shell mode?
[05:19] <Jucato> no, it's a GUI
[05:19] <Jucato> BASH scripts in ##bash please, or directed at _2
[05:19] <jhutchins> aaron: Well, I know a clean install will fix it, but there's something less drastic.  Something has caused a file to be incorrectly timestamped.
[05:19] <thomas> aaron: just curious? does that account have full admin rights?
[05:19] <aaron> oh
[05:19] <aaron> dunno
[05:20] <thomas> jhutchins: maybe he doesn't have su rights?
[05:20] <jhutchins> serginho: It's really easy, #bash is probably a good try.
[05:20] <jhutchins> thomas: No, it's a glitch.  Something essentially got corrupted.
[05:20] <serginho> ok Thank you
[05:20] <jhutchins> thomas: Remember that the GUI package manager will ask for your password.
[05:21] <thomas> jhutchins: yes i know
[05:21] <_2> thomas well like i said eariler,  you can set the box up with any configuration you want.  if you want to login to the gui as root that can be arranged,  but some things wont work right if you do that.   and this "but i don't want to have to type a password" to access root things is a simple edit of one file...   but i hope you to realize that one of the reasons that linux doesn't have virii is it's inhearent security, which you wi
[05:21] <thomas> jhutchins: i just figured that it returned an error because hes not allowed to even enter a password but I think your right
[05:22] <jhutchins> We see this about once a week, I wish I'd paid more attention to how to fix it...
[05:22] <aaron> well i restarted su and now it says enter password and i enterd it
[05:22] <thomas> _2: did that last line finish?
[05:22] <_2> it's inhearent security, which you will be eliminating...
[05:22] <aaron> now says Commucation with SU failed
[05:22] <_2> last line ^
[05:23] <cash> Hello , im so sorry for stupid question .May be some people know ,where I can download themes for emerald ?
[05:23] <vsudilov> hmmm could anyone help with the GL error: (EE) GLX is not supported with the Composite extension
[05:23] <aaron> well now it logon to su and says Authentcation error
[05:23] <thomas> _2: I understand. I think the reason why I'm asking aswell was that I might not remember the kdesu konqueror command in the future and wondering if there was an easier GUI way :S
[05:23] <Flatfender> I got the music to work but I have no volume now..
[05:23] <jhutchins> cash: Emerald and suchlike are supported in #ubuntu-effects
[05:24] <cash> jhutchins thx a loTT
[05:24] <jhutchins> aaron: all I can suggest is searching the forums, this problem does come up regularly.
[05:24] <aaron> ok
[05:25] <thomas> _2: I still have to read up on ubuntu security because I dont fully understand it. I think it also differs from other linux versions
[05:26] <stdin> vsudilov: you have to add this to the bottom of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39433
[05:26] <_2> yeah it definitely differs from what i run
[05:26] <_2> !virus
[05:26] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[05:26] <thomas> ty sir
[05:26] <vsudilov> stdin: I found that solution on google, and I've tried it. Problem is, my Xserver doesn't load !!
[05:26] <_2> thomas   http://librenix.com/?inode=21  <<<  that's a pretty good read.
[05:27] <Jucato> _2, thomas: but not too much. Ubuntu still follows the *nix access rules (rwxrwxrwx)...
[05:27] <stdin> vsudilov: there's no reason that adding that will stop X from starting
[05:27] <Flatfender> Does anyone know how to set my Audigy 2 as my main sound output
[05:27] <vsudilov> stdin: Perhaps my nvidia card doesn't have a composite option? It is a legacy card
[05:27] <thomas> Jucato: yea soooooooo?
[05:27] <Jucato> [11:25]  <thomas> _2: I still have to read up on ubuntu security because I dont fully understand it. I think it also differs from other linux versions
[05:28] <stdin> vsudilov: with all nvidia card that need to be added
[05:28] <thomas> yea like -rwwrwrw is root -----rwwrwrwrwww is sudo and ------------------------rwrwrw is su?
[05:28] <encom> #ubuntu-es
[05:28] <_2> Jucato indeed,   but i think he meant; and know i did, the sudo root jr. approach to administeration access
[05:28] <vsudilov> stdin: Ok, I'll give it another shot. Do you have any ideas if that doesn't work?
[05:28] <thomas> Jucato: oh ok makes sense now :S
[05:28] <aaron> hello again what is default root password??
[05:28] <ubuntu> !root | aaron
[05:28] <ubotu> aaron: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[05:28] <_2> my system differs greatly in that reguard.
[05:28] <Jucato> yes, the sudo way is very much the Ubuntu way
[05:29] <stdin> vsudilov: not really, that is the fix for that problem
[05:29] <aaron> thx
[05:29] <sstchur> So I managed to get KDE4 running, but where the taskbar would normally be I get two blocks that say "This object could not be created."  What is that, and how might I resolve it?
[05:29] <aaron> oh goodie i got Adept to work
[05:29] <thomas> _2: yea the jr approach basically what all windows users would think
[05:29] <Flatfender> Oi, now it wont let me open my external hard disk... I'm having one of those nights
[05:29] <Jucato> sstchur: What is that? it's called "beta quality software" :)
[05:29] <_2> even on boxes that i do setup sudo on i use it to allow special apps to be ran by special people not make anyone a root jr.
[05:30] <ubuntu> aaron: Gret help me to connect to a wireless without Knetworkmanager
[05:30] <thomas> aaron: i'm so happy for you lol
[05:30] <ubuntu> which is an idiot :)
[05:30] <sstchur> Jucato: well, sure i expected as much... but I'm wondering what is supposed to be there, and if there is anything I can do to "help it" be there?
[05:30] <thomas> _2: how do you do that??
[05:30] <will_> can anyone reccomend a good cd burning software ?
[05:30] <_2> thomas you edit the sudoesr file
[05:30] <vsudilov> stdin: thanks, I'll try it now ;)
[05:31] <thomas> _2: run differnet apps for different people and modify other seciruty settings....Its definetely not in the user management thing
[05:31] <_2> thomas you should read up on that,  man sudoers
[05:31] <stdin> sstchur: no, nothing you can do
[05:31] <sstchur> stdin: ok... do you know what objects it's talking about?
[05:31] <Jucato> sstchur: well, practically, what's there is the non-functional k menu icon and a clock, which you can't really get unless you compile some more plasmoids from SVN, which you wouldn't be really able to do unless you compile all of KDE 4 from svn
[05:31] <sstchur> Jucato: ah ok, that's what I was wondering, thanks
[05:31] <stdin> sstchur: (unless you download and compile trunk/playground/base from kde's svn repo)
[05:32] <_2> thomas and   man sudo    for the basic concepts   then it's a simple as specifying the  user and the things you want to let them do.
[05:32] <sstchur> stdin: no problem, that's all i wanted to know... thanks guys
[05:32] <stdin> Jucato: but notice how  concise i was :P
[05:32] <ubuntu> !wireless
[05:32] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:32] <thomas> man sudo
[05:32] <thomas> _2: ok i have some reading to do then
[05:33] <thomas> thank you all for now
[05:33] <ubuntu> doesn't look so appetizing now does he?
[05:33] <ubuntu> Bye thomas!
[05:33] <Jucato> stdin: you have the room. out for lunch :)
[05:33] <ubuntu> stdin: Help :)
[05:33] <stdin> Jucato: man, you just got here :p
[05:33] <manikfox> anyone get a good desktop affect working with nvidia?
[05:34] <Jucato> stdin: woke up late. I'm sick. so give me a break, ok? :P
[05:34] <_2> such as letting some users mount and umount a special device, without prompting for a password while not allowing others to mount it at all.
[05:34] <stdin> Jucato: fine, but you owe me one :)
[05:34] <Flatfender> What would cause my Ext. hard disk to work before and not now? I can see it but can't access it
[05:34] <Jucato> hm... I thought I owe you a whole month? :)
[05:34] <stdin> ubuntu: why can't you use knetworkmanager?
[05:35] <ubuntu> stdin: it reaches to configure device and fails
[05:35] <ubuntu> I've had this before
[05:35] <cash> How I can remove VMware if I was setup software by the ./conf... I didnt see packages in adept manager and synapticks ....And when I try to use aptitude -remove ,aptitude trying to remove all K-applications =( what I should doing ?
[05:35] <stdin> Jucato: thanks for reminding me ;)
[05:35] <ubuntu>  it will only connect to networks with a Key
[05:35] <ubuntu>  this one is open
[05:36] <stdin> ubuntu: it should work without a key, it'll only use one if it detects it's encrypted
[05:36] <ubuntu> stdin: yes I realise that but It's not connected
[05:37] <ubuntu> Though it must have been since I logged into IM
[05:37] <ubuntu> In anycase right clicking and choosing the AP starts the dialog which stops at configuring device
[05:38] <cash> why no one answer to me =((  ?
[05:38] <_2> Jucato and what's wrong with seeing me when you come in to the channel ?     or was that just a "gouge" ?
[05:38] <ubuntu> cash: How did you install
[05:39] <cash> I was download archive ,untar it and the next write ./configure... in the directrory
[05:40] <cash> and was follow the steps - means was choose directories for modules,libs,docs and etc ...
[05:40] <ubuntu> _2: hi Sir Binary
[05:40] <ubuntu> stdin: in anycase how do I connect from the command line?
[05:40] <ubuntu> stdin: in anycase how do I connect from the command line?
[05:41] <cash> Now when I try to check and type "locate vmware" I see that I have server and player... But I cant to remove that =(((
[05:42] <stdin> ubuntu: like "sudo iwconfig eth1 essid Name mode managed ap XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX" then "sudo dhclient eth1"
[05:42] <_2> ubuntu  :)
[05:43] <Flatfender> OK, it reads it, but I think its not mounting here is the error I get hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[05:45] <ubuntu_> Hello?
[05:45] <ubuntu_> Good evening Admiral_Chicago!!
[05:46] <ubuntu_> Great to be here!
[05:46] <cash> ubuntu_may be U help me ?
[05:46] <ubuntu_> cash: Sure what with?
[05:46] <cash> ubuntu_How I can remove VMware if I was setup software by the ./conf... I didnt see packages in adept manager and synapticks ....And when I try to use aptitude -remove ,aptitude trying to remove all K-applications =( what I should doing ?
[05:46] <cash> ubuntu_Now when I try to check and type "locate vmware" I see that I have server and player... But I cant to remove that =(((
[05:46] <ubuntu_> cash: what is the ./conf ?
[05:47] <_2> cash if you didn't delete the source dir  cd into it and    sudo make uninstall
[05:47] <cash> For Vmware server it was vmware-install.pl fro example
[05:48] <cash> _2 it is not working .I try but it is says that no one applications exist with name vmware
[05:48] <ubuntu_> cash: umm
[05:48] <ubuntu_> did you compile it?
[05:49] <cash> ubuntu_yes I do that )
[05:50] <ubuntu_> cash: Ok well then in the folder type sudo make uninstall
[05:50] <Flatfender> OK, I give up, what do I need to do to use this drive again?
[05:50] <cash> sec .I recheck again
[05:51] <ubuntu_> Flatfender: Whats up?
[05:51] <cash> ubuntu_sudo apt-get remove vmware ///E: Couldn't find package vmware
[05:52] <Flatfender> Not even 15 minutes ago my external drive worked great, now when I plug it in hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000 is the error that it gives me
[05:52] <DaSkreech> cash: you compiled it to install it apt-get doesn't know that it exosts
[05:52] <DaSkreech> Flatfender: Umm USB?
[05:52] <_2> i'm having a thought,   and it's very painful
[05:52] <Flatfender> Yes, USB DaSkreech
[05:52] <cash> DaSkreech but How I can remove that ?
[05:53] <DaSkreech> cash: do you still have the folder that you compiled it in?
[05:53] <_2> cash if you didn't delete the source dir  cd into it and      sudo make uninstall
[05:53] <cash> lmc
[05:53] <cash> _2DaSkreechmake: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'.  Stop.
[05:54] <_2> cash well check the scripts in that dir and see if any provide an uninstall / remove  option
[05:55] <cash> _2 looking
[05:55] <_2> cash   grep 'uninstall' *
[05:55] <Flatfender> Would an apt-get install update help?
[05:56] <Flatfender> Or maybe without the install..
[05:57] <cash> _2  I have many messages
[06:00] <DaSkreech> Flatfender: apt-get update &7 sudo apt-get upgrade :)
[06:01] <stdin> &7 ? :p
[06:01] <Flatfender> Just finished that and still get the same problem :/
[06:03] <DaSkreech> Flatfender: sorry && not &7
[06:04] <DaSkreech> !vm
[06:04] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[06:04] <AmyRose> !virtualbox
[06:04] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[06:06] <inaety> hello for some reason the Server list from Konversation isnt closing even after i hit close.  it seems to be not responding since the actualy close button in the right hand corner is mising
[06:10] <_2> inaety xkill
[06:10] <_2> alt+esc ?
[06:10] <_2> ctrl+esc ?
[06:12] <inaety> _2: oddly enough File > Server List made it respond
[06:13] <_2> i can't immagine why...
[06:20] <Jucato> inaety: are you using compiz or beryl?
[06:23] <_2> mkboot    Fatal: No images have been defined.
[06:25] <DaSkreech> ok how do I connect my multimedia keys to the speaker?
[06:25] <_2> duct tape ?
[06:26] <_2> khotkeys ?
[06:26] <DaSkreech> I don't get khotkeys
[06:26] <DaSkreech> and the wiki says it's in regional and accesibilty
[06:26] <DaSkreech> which
[06:26] <DaSkreech> is
[06:26] <DaSkreech> strange
[06:26] <DaSkreech> !enter | DaSkreech
[06:35] <sanst_>   
[06:35] <Jucato> !ru | sanst_
[06:35] <stdin> !ru
[06:35] <ubotu> sanst_:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[06:36] <Jucato> beat yah :P
[06:36] <stdin> bah
[06:36] <stdin> :p
[06:38] <sanst_>  :-P
[06:38] <inaety> Jucato: compiz-fusion
[06:39] <Jucato> inaety: that's a known bug in Konversation I think
[06:39] <Jucato> when used with compiz
[06:39] <inaety> Jucato: oh okay whatever
[06:39] <inaety> i found a fix for it
[06:39] <inaety> well kinda
[06:39] <Jucato> oh ok whatever...
[06:40] <DaSkreech> !gr
[06:40] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[06:47] <DaSkreech> !kmultimedia
[06:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kmultimedia - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:47] <DaSkreech> Dumb bot
[06:47] <eagles0513875> !aptfix
[06:47] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[06:47] <Jucato> GIGO...
[06:47] <eagles0513875> !aptfix |ubotu
[06:47] <ubotu> ubotu: please see above
[06:47] <DaSkreech> Jucato: I set a !kmultimedia factoid
[06:48] <DaSkreech> but seeing as how everything I teach it gets deleted...
[06:48] <Jucato> DaSkreech: are you an editor?
[06:48] <stdin> DaSkreech: you talked about it in -ops
[06:48] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Nope :) but I've only had one change stick
[06:49] <Jucato> if you're not an ubotu editor, then your factoids really won't get in
[06:49] <DaSkreech> aren't they submitted?
[06:49] <Jucato> for review? yes. but I haven't seen yours since I logged in. might have done it earlier
[06:50] <stdin> DaSkreech: they get sent to -ops, then they decide (helps if you join after submitting)
[06:50] <DaSkreech> stdin: I do that sometimes
[06:50] <stdin> Jucato: was yesterday (Sep 08 03:25:58 GMT+1)
[06:50] <Jucato> ah ok. wasn't here
[06:51] <DaSkreech> stdin: Oh neat it's logged shoudl I still join?
[06:51] <fisktank> hi
[06:52] <stdin> DaSkreech: send it again, then join (i got that from my logs)
[06:52] <DaSkreech> I was wondering about that
[06:52] <fishtank> yeah
[06:52] <DaSkreech> stdin: I don't recall what I put :)
[06:52] <DaSkreech> I know it was helpful
[06:52] <stdin> Sep 08 03:25:58 <ubotu> In #kubuntu, DaSkreech said: !kmultimedia is Trying to get your Multimedia keyboard working in KDE? No Problem take a look at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys
[06:52] <DaSkreech> Right
[06:52] <Jucato> hm...
[06:52] <Jucato> might not be the best trigger for the factoid...
[06:53] <Jucato> thinking
[06:53] <Jucato> multimedia keys or keys probably...
[06:53] <stdin> DaSkreech: you'll want to use <reply> too, or it will show as "<ubotu> kmultimedia is Trying to get...."
[06:54] <Jucato> if you don't mind, just !keys and only to be seen in #kubuntu?
[06:54] <DaSkreech> so it's !factoid <reply> instead of !factoid is ?
[06:54] <DaSkreech> !keys
[06:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about keys - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:54] <stdin> yep
[06:54] <DaSkreech> Is there an gnomie one already
[06:54] <DaSkreech> ?
[06:54] <Jucato> nope. but I doubt they'd need that in #ubuntu :)
[06:55] <DaSkreech> there is a gnomie page as well I could just build a dual factoid and be done with it
[06:55] <Jucato> so !keys would be ok?
[06:55] <stdin> DaSkreech: they can make it so it says one thing in here and another in #ubuntu
[06:56] <stdin> all hail the power of ubotu
[06:56] <DaSkreech> stdin: I know. I just like to raise the KDE profile a bit if I can :)
[06:56] <DaSkreech> KDE? what's that
[06:56] <Jucato> if no one objects?
[06:56] <stdin> ahh, they have !kde !kubuntu and !k3b :)
[06:57] <DaSkreech> stdin: Yeah I know but someone looking to fix  problem sees a KDE mention and starts asking questions
[06:57] <DaSkreech> Jucato: I can live with keys
[06:57] <Jucato> !keys
[06:57] <ubotu> Trying to get your Multimedia keyboard working in KDE? No Problem take a look at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys
[06:57] <DaSkreech> !multimedia
[06:57] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[06:57] <DaSkreech> already taken
[06:58] <Jucato> hm... I made a boo-boo...
[06:59] <Jucato> there, !keys only in #kubuntu
[07:01] <DaSkreech> Now if only that page helped me :-(
[07:03] <manikfox> anyone know how to fix the slow motion sound bug???
[07:10] <ironfroggy> is there anyway to install an image directly to a drive from windows?
[07:10] <DaSkreech> ironfroggy: say that again in different owrds
[07:11] <DaSkreech> words
[07:11] <Perseid> OK. Problems getting the nvidia driver to work. I'm paraphrasing this: "API Mismatch: Nvidia kernel module has version 1.0-7184 but X module has 1.0-9755"
[07:11] <holycow> he wants to effectivelly dd an iso to a partition from windows
[07:11] <Jucato> !iso
[07:11] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[07:11] <ardchoille> Perseid: Did you install the nvidia drivers via the wiki page?
[07:11] <holycow> ironfroggy: the answer is no
[07:11] <holycow> install it properly
[07:12] <ironfroggy> i cant get my cd burner to work properly
[07:12] <DaSkreech> ironfroggy: yes there is
[07:12] <DaSkreech> http://instantfundas.blogspot.com/2007/08/install-any-linux-distro-directly-from.html
[07:12] <ironfroggy> i think a windows installer for kubuntu would be great
[07:12] <Jucato> !wubi
[07:12] <ubotu> wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html
[07:12] <ironfroggy> just dump an image to the drive
[07:12] <holycow> it would highly depend on your partition layout
[07:12] <Jucato> warning on the "unofficial"...
[07:12] <holycow> you will need to replace your bootloader with grub
[07:12] <ironfroggy> its a different drive
[07:13] <ironfroggy> i hate grub
[07:13] <ironfroggy> never works for me
[07:13] <holycow> and you would need to then have a partitioned drive to dump an image to ...
[07:13] <Perseid> ardchoille: You mean the binarydrivershowto? Yes, and restricted-manager installs the wrong package. It says I need nvidia-glx when I am pretty sure that with a 7900Gt I need nvidia-glx-new
[07:14] <holycow> DaSkreech: thats an interesting article, thanks
[07:14] <holycow> grub always works for me, but then i can go in and fix anything necessary
[07:15] <DaSkreech> Jucato: can we add that link into Wubi ?
[07:20] <ardchoille> Perseid: Restricted manager? Isn't that a gnome app?
[07:21] <Perseid> I don't know. Someone here recommended I install it last time I was here.
[07:21] <Jucato> ardchoille: we'll have that in Kubuntu in Gutsy
[07:21] <ardchoille> Perseid: I recommend you follow the nvidia how to and don't install anything unless it tells you to
[07:21] <ardchoille> !nvidia
[07:21] <Jucato> but on feisty it's GNOME/Ubuntu, but you can still use it
[07:22] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:22] <ironfroggy> wubi's progress bar is broken
[07:22] <ironfroggy> it gets to about 90% and then starts downloading the ISO
[07:23] <ardchoille> Perseid: Disregard my last.. it seems the instructions have changed since I last installed nvidia. It only takes me two commands and about 20 secs to get it installed. I can't see why anyone would use a gui for that.
[07:24] <Perseid> I don't seem to have this System/Administration/Restricted Devices Manager the wiki page talks about
[07:25] <ardchoille> Perseid: Which card do you have?
[07:25] <Perseid> 7900gt
[07:25] <ardchoille> GeForce 7900 GT/GTO is supported
[07:26] <ardchoille> Perseid: All I did was  "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"  and edit xorg, then restart x and I was in business.
[07:27] <ardchoille> That'll likely change, tho
[07:27] <Perseid> Yes, and when I do that X doesn't start.
[07:27] <ardchoille> Sounds like you installed the wrong module
[07:28] <Perseid> When you say edit xorg you mean change nv to nvidia, right?
[07:29] <ardchoille> yes, but I do it with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and let that do the work.
[07:29] <ardchoille> Takes care of nvidia and screen res all in one shot
[07:29] <Perseid> The drop down selected nv. Pick nvidia instead?
[07:30] <ardchoille> yes
[07:30] <ardchoille> IF you have already installed the nvidia drives, that is
[07:31] <ardchoille> s/drives/drivers/
[07:31] <Perseid> To double check a 7900GT uses nvidia-glx-new right?
[07:31] <ardchoille> I have no idea but I don't see why it can't use nvidia-glx. the -new is just for a newer version of the driver.
[07:32] <ardchoille> Perseid:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#troubleshooting
[07:33] <Perseid> ok
[07:33] <ardchoille> Perseid: You also need to read the section on "Install and activate drivers" on the nvidia page to make sure you have the correct kernel modules installed.
[07:34] <ardchoille> Hmm.. that page has changed quite a bit since I started using nvisi whenDapper came out.
[07:34] <ardchoille> *nvidia
[07:37] <tarntow_> Always having sound suddenly gone...is there a way of fixing this apart from rebooting everytime but still can happen again?
[07:38] <ardchoille> tarntow_: Are you turning your sound up full?
[07:38] <ardchoille> !sound
[07:38] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:38] <tarntow_> yes...it usually happens when the volume is full or high
[07:38] <ardchoille> Same thing happens with me too.
[07:39] <tarntow_> ubotu: what would be the equivalent to 'enable the sound system' in ubuntu? cheers
[07:39] <Perseid> OK. Reboot time. :)
[07:39] <ardchoille> Perseid: Wait
[07:39] <Perseid> ok
[07:39] <ardchoille> !bot | tarntow_
[07:40] <ubotu> tarntow_: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:40] <ardchoille> Perseid: You're rebooting for what? nvidia drivers?
[07:40] <Perseid> Yeah.
[07:41] <ardchoille> No need to reboot.. Just open a term and "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"  but be aware that will kill all kde apps because xorg is being restarted.
[07:41] <Perseid> ok. Thanks.
[07:41] <ardchoille> Perseid: Really don't need to reboot for much at all unless you're doing kernel work
[07:42] <tarntow_> ubotu: ok i'll have a good read with these links....thx
[07:49] <Perseid> OK. I'm back. Same error.
[07:49] <Perseid> API mismatch - nvidia kernel module has v 1.0-7184 but x module has 1.0.9755
[07:50] <djdarkman> hy, what program is in the background that misconfigures my network all the time?
[07:50] <ardchoille> !automatix
[07:50] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[07:54] <sousl> Hello, how can i run konqueror as root?
[07:54] <ardchoille> !info libdvdcss2
[07:54] <ubotu> libdvdcss2: Simple foundation for reading DVDs - runtime libraries. In component extras, is optional. Version 1.2.9-0.0ubuntu6 (feisty-seveas), package size 33 kB, installed size 112 kB
[07:55] <brendonjt> hey ya all
[07:55] <Perseid> How do you check what kernel you're running?
[07:56] <brendonjt> using gutsy here on my main computer in fact it is my main computer and I haven't had a problem yet
[07:56] <stdin> Perseid: uname -r
[07:57] <Perseid> OK. I uninstalled all the nvidia and restricted drivers then installed just nvidia-new-glx. It installed restricted modules for 2.6.20-15 even though I'm on 2.6.20.16.
[07:57] <holycow> would anyone know if konqueror is multithreded?
[07:59] <Biovore> holycow: I don't think it is..
[07:59] <brendonjt> holycow: hmm not sure there
[07:59] <holycow> k
[07:59] <Perseid> OK. Never mind that last bit.
[08:05] <Perseid> Still no love on the nvidia drivers.
[08:06] <brendonjt> ok try ubuntuguide they have alot of good stuff on there
[08:12] <Kein> !adeptfix > Kein
[08:22] <Seek_Therapy> ok...i need help my internet is running really really slow and i have cable
[08:23] <holycow> too many people in your neighbourhood sharing your connection
[08:23] <holycow> wait a few hours
[08:24] <Seek_Therapy> whatever i paid extra for higher speed
[08:24] <holycow> google up bandwidth testers and check out your connection
[08:24] <Seek_Therapy> can i boot the others
[08:24] <holycow> you do understand that high speed is a scam right?
[08:24] <holycow> you can pay whatever you want, they have still oversubscribed your connection
[08:24] <Seek_Therapy> nope! I fell for it
[08:24] <holycow> you aren't guaranteed disk on cable
[08:24] <holycow> dick
[08:24] <holycow> lol
[08:25] <Seek_Therapy> no dick here
[08:25] <Seek_Therapy> let me check...Nope
[08:31] <Seek_Therapy> what happens if i ping 127.0.0.1
[08:34] <digitalrao> whats sup
[08:34] <NickPresta> !hi | digitalrao
[08:34] <ubotu> digitalrao: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[08:34] <digitalrao> anyone know whats going on with Yahoo Chat?
[08:34] <ksivaji> ping will request the 127.0.0.1 to retransmit bytes as send by source
[08:34] <NickPresta> digitalrao, what do you mean?
[08:34] <Seek_Therapy>  also their socks2http
[08:35] <digitalrao> one of my friends i cant get into Yaho chat
[08:35] <digitalrao> you sent a ping?
[08:35] <NickPresta> Is thisa Kubuntu problem?
[08:35] <digitalrao> its yahoo
[08:35] <digitalrao> im just trying to find info that is it
[08:36] <NickPresta> which IM Client?
[08:36] <Perseid> Woot! I have 3-D now. If any of you are curious, this was my problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20/+bug/106217
[08:36] <Seek_Therapy> someone in physics told me thats the governments ip
[08:36] <Seek_Therapy> I think he is treasing
[08:37] <Perseid> Thanks for the help. I'll probably be back again eventually for something or other.
[08:37] <ksivaji> !firefox3
[08:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about firefox3 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:38] <ksivaji> anyone know when firefox 3 wil be available for download
[08:39] <stdin> ksivaji: it's only at 2.0.0.6 now
[08:40] <hangthedj_server> i think right now firefox 3 is gran parisma...something
[08:40] <ksivaji> stdin firefox 3 is going to be released soon with sophisticated features
[08:41] <ksivaji> stdin i got the error report for game the hangs my system
[08:42] <stdin> link?
[08:42] <maverick> could someone please remind with the command to uninstall application from source
[08:42] <ksivaji> stdin http://pastebin.com/d2e4a9c47
[08:42] <stdin> maverick: normally "sudo make uninstall"
[08:43] <maverick> stdin: thnx
[08:43] <maverick> stdin: didn't find it in make --help
[08:43] <ksivaji> maverick need not thank him he is our saviour
[08:44] <maverick> indeed
[08:44] <ksivaji> stdin : any idea
[08:44] <stdin> hmm, last error before segfault was "ealsa_blitbuffer: Could not write audio data to sound device: Input/output error"
[08:44] <stdin> something to do with alsa maybe..
[08:45] <stdin> ksivaji: what's in /home/sivaji/.vdrift/logs/ ?
[08:45] <ksivaji>  5 empty fils
[08:45] <ksivaji> files*
[08:46] <stdin> hmm
[08:46] <elzbal> Quick question about apt... My partly-downloaded feisty-backports/universe Packages.gz seems corrupt. gzip throws errors during apt-get/aptitude update. I'm guessing I should delete the file so I can get a full download. Where is it?
[08:47] <stdin> elzbal: it'll be in /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ probably
[08:48] <ksivaji> elzbal /var/cache/apt/archives/partial
[08:48] <elzbal> stdin: Thanks, it was there. Deleted, and updated like a champ.
[08:48] <stdin> ksivaji: if you don't mind another crash, try running "vdrift -verbose" to get more info
[08:48] <elzbal> And thanks to you too, ksivaji.  :)
[08:49] <Perseid> The drives in my /dev keep chaging. /dev/sdd1 and /dev/sdc2 keep flipping to /dev/sdc1 and /dev/sdd2. They work if I change the fstab but they keep changing and I have to edit the fstab again
[08:50] <stdin> Perseid: that's why we use UUIDs now
[08:50] <mikedomo> lets go brothers Kubuntu power :D
[08:51] <Perseid> How do I get it to generate them? It did for some of them when I upgraded but not all.
[08:51] <elzbal> Perseid: My fstab has entries like this:    UUID=9a4d5ac7-e21e-4cf4-895a-07be002437b4 /boot ....
[08:51] <ksivaji> stdin it goes beyond the console memory
[08:51] <stdin> ksivaji: you can use: ' script -c "vdrift -verbose" output ' to save it to a file
[08:52] <elzbal> Perseid: google tells me you can do this:   sudo vol_id -u device
[08:52] <Perseid> elzbal: Cool. Thanks.
[08:53] <elzbal> No problem. (It looks odd to me too.  :)
[08:53] <stdin> !uuid
[08:53] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  sudo blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[08:54] <Perseid> stdin: That didn't list my ntfs devices
[08:54] <vovkav> hi! Is there anyone who had managed to get his ali1535 (AC'97-like) softmodem working with alsa?
[08:55] <stdin> Perseid: should do
[08:58] <ksivaji> stdin :
[09:02] <paulc87> have any of you installed kde4 beta 2?
[09:02] <stdin> yep
[09:02] <elzbal> paulc87: I tried. It didn't do much.
[09:02] <elzbal> paulc87: I couldn't get plasma to work, nor could I log into a session.
[09:03] <paulc87> i see
[09:03] <paulc87> i was just wanting to play around with it
[09:03] <paulc87> didnt know if it was worth installing
[09:03] <elzbal> (But I'm on amd64, so that might be a different story than what most people experience)
[09:03] <stdin> probably not
[09:03] <paulc87> i installed the i386 version
[09:04] <paulc87> amd64 seemed to be very slow
[09:04] <elzbal> I wouldn't trust kde4b2 for, well, much, but it's probably worth installing and checking out.  :)
[09:08] <kaminix2> How would I make this line not give me any ugly output? (it's complaining about the scriptfile not being a directory etc...) for i in * ; do md5sum "$i"/*flac >> "$i"/checksum.md5sum ; done
[09:08] <stdin> ksivaji: yeah, seems to be something to do with alsa. the game was probably compiled against a version that's too old now
[09:08] <ksivaji> stdin what is alsa
[09:09] <stdin> kaminix2: you're not quoting the variables right, use ${VAR} not "$VAR"
[09:09] <hangthedj_server> !alsa | ksivaji
[09:09] <ubotu> ksivaji: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[09:10] <stdin> ksivaji: it's the sound system
[09:10] <hangthedj_server> ksivaji: advanced linux sound architecture
[09:10] <kaminix2> stdin: Would that remove the output about spawn_checksums (script in the same directory) not being a directory? Everything else works fine.
[09:10] <ksivaji> stdin see line 50 in pastebin  "Upgrade your graphics card!"  what does it meas
[09:11] <ksivaji> means*
[09:11] <ksivaji> hangthedj_server : thanx
[09:11] <ksivaji> stdin  thanx
[09:12] <stdin> kaminix2: well md5sum "$i"/*flac >> "$i"/checksum.md5sum would translate to (if i was foo) md5sum "foo"/*flac >> "foo"/checksum.md5sum
[09:14] <elzbal> Prelinking on Feisty: Good idea or no? (I've always prelinked before, but I saw one resource indicating it might not do much for Feisty)
[09:15] <Perseid> Wow. This is very confusing. All of the NTFS UUIDs are smaller, like CC30CD4730CD38EA. Is ff98cdfa-d0a9-4527-aa04-544a6868ba3c the linux partition?
[09:15] <stdin> kaminix2: it may be better to do: for i in $(find . -maxdepth 0 -type d) ; do md5sum "$i"/*flac >> "$i"/checksum.md5sum ; done too
[09:15] <kaminix2> stdin: That's what I want. :) The thing is that in the folder I run the script I have all my folders that are going to be md5summed plus the scriptfile, meaning it will try to do <scriptfile>/*flac >> <scriptfile>/checksum.md5sum and md5sum -c <scriptfile>/checksum.md5sum, both which give an ugly error output. Can I somehow turn the output off?
[09:15] <kaminix2> What will for i in $(find . -maxdepth 0 -type d) do?
[09:16] <stdin> kaminix2: "find . -maxdepth 0 -type d" will print a list off all the directories in the current directory :)
[09:17] <stdin> kaminix2: (and only directories)
[09:17] <kaminix2> Nice, will try that. Thanks. :)
[09:18] <ksivaji> stdin  sound system works fine
[09:18] <stdin> ksivaji: but the game was probably compiled against a version that's too old now
[09:18] <kaminix2> stdin: Gives the output: md5sum: ./*flac: No such file or directory
[09:19] <Perseid> Wow. When I upgraded to feisty it detected CC30CD4730CD38EA as my linux /, which is wrong. CC30CD4730CD38EA is actually the second partition which is NTFS. So now I have CC30CD4730CD38EA listed twice in fstab. Once for / and once for the NTFS drive.
[09:19] <stdin> kaminix2: ahh, well it counts the current directory
[09:19] <Perseid> It works ine like this.
[09:19] <Perseid> *fine
[09:20] <kaminix2> stdin: But it does not make checksums for the other dir either. :s
[09:20] <stdin> kaminix2: try "find . -maxdepth 1 -type d"
[09:21] <Perseid> But now I'm afraid that when I reboot and it goes to mount / things are going to blow up.
[09:21] <prak> does anyone know how to figure out which version of Linux kernel used?
[09:21] <ksivaji> prak uname -a
[09:22] <ksivaji> cat /proc/version
[09:22] <ksivaji>  lsb_release -a
[09:22] <ksivaji> prak :
[09:23] <kaminix2> stdin: It takes every word in the folder name as a dir now. If the folder name was "A B - C D"  it would see A, B, -, C and D as five different directories
[09:23] <hangthedj_server> uname -r will give you only the kernel release instead of all the other stuff
[09:23] <prak> thanks, ksivaji
[09:23] <stdin> kaminix2: ahh, well spaces are evil for scripts
[09:23] <dmbkiwi> is anyone else having trouble getting a kde4 beta2 session working?
[09:23] <dmbkiwi> seems that /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde is missing from the beta 2 packages
[09:24] <elzbal> dmbkiwi: It didnt work for me either.
[09:24] <kaminix2> stdin: If I don't have the spaces there it will be useless or I will have to ugglifie my entire music collection. :s
[09:24] <stdin> dmbkiwi: _read_ the release announcement
[09:24] <elzbal> dmbkiwi: I *do* have a startkde though.
[09:26] <kaminix2> stdin: Is there no way to just tell the script that I don't want to see any output from my original line?
[09:27] <stdin> kaminix2: you see there's a special variable called IFS, it contains a list of "field separators", they tell commands what to interpret as separators (between commands and arguments), and one of those is a space
[09:27] <dmbkiwi> elzbal: I've read the announcement.  Had it working fine for beta1.  Did you upgrade from beta1?
[09:27] <stdin> kaminix2: slap a &>/dev/null on the end of the md5sum command to hide all errors tho
[09:28] <elzbal> dmbkiwi: No. New install on a fairly new Feisty box. I'm on amd64, so my situation may be different from yours
[09:28] <stdin> dmbkiwi: if you read it, it tells you what new package you need to install
[09:28] <kaminix2> stdin: I tried the &>/dev/null at the end, but then it didn't create the md5sum files at all. :s
[09:29] <stdin> kaminix2: ok, put 2>/dev/null then
[09:29] <kaminix2> stdin: What does 2> mean?
[09:30] <stdin> kaminix2: it's a file descriptor number, 0 = stdin, 1 = stdout, 2 = stderr
[09:30] <stdin> all errors go to stderr (standard error)
[09:31] <kaminix2> It worked! I love you! ^^
[09:31] <kaminix2> Thanks :)
[09:31] <ardchoille> stdin: http://ardchoille.pastebin.us/39435
[09:32] <stdin> heh, nice :)
[09:33] <ardchoille> I wrote that because I couldn't find a decent gui/cli app that does it.
[09:34] <dmbkiwi> stdin: ah - good point. Missed that :)  Thanks
[09:36] <stdin> ardchoille: I'm tempted to make that in to a c++ app now, just so I can practice
[09:37] <ardchoille> stdin: Really? Cool :)
[09:37] <ardchoille> stdin: Would probably be nice to have a gui for those who don't like cli apps. Someone should write a decent md5sum/sha1sum gui app and put it in the repos.
[09:38] <stdin> ardchoille: someone should, but that won't be me :p I'm still on my 1st book of c++
[09:38] <ardchoille> stdin: ghasher and awesum are gnome apps but they aren't in the repos.
[09:38] <ardchoille> stdin: lol
[09:39] <kaminix2> Can the lame encoder read .flac? /me's mp3-player is bad with ogg
[09:40] <emja> for some unknown reason my knetworkmanager applet can no longer see any wireless networks, yet iwlist shows them fine. I've uninstalled and reinstalled knetworkmanager, but no joy. any pointers?
[09:40] <emja> is there a better GUI network manager I should be using? others I've tried don't seem to support WPA, only WEP
[09:41] <ardchoille> stdin: One thing I just noticed about my sum script.. there's no check for the existence of the sum report prior to asking the use of they want to save it.
[09:41] <stdin> kaminix2: I think lame can only read wav/raw audio
[09:41] <kaminix2> Well that's lame. :(
[09:41] <ardchoille> lol
[09:41] <ardchoille> kaminix2: nice pun
[09:41] <kaminix2> ^^
[09:52] <titanix88> hello!
[09:55] <titanix88> hola!
[09:55] <titanix88> Everyone silent?
[09:56] <ubunturos> well, hello titanix88 :)
[09:56] <hangthedj_server> !hi | titanix88
[09:56] <ubotu> titanix88: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[09:56] <ubunturos> !date
[09:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about date - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:57] <titanix88> ubunturos:)
[09:59] <titanix88> idle.....:)
[09:59] <titanix88> bye
[09:59] <Lynoure> hmm
[10:01] <mauri> I have a problem with acetoneiso
[10:02] <BadRobot> hi there does anyone knows which distro has disk rescue?
[10:02] <BadRobot>  and what is the iso burn for winxp?
[10:02] <holycow> nero
[10:02] <holycow> disk rescue? you mean dd?
[10:03] <BadRobot> free ones
[10:03] <holycow> every distro
[10:03] <BadRobot> open source
[10:03] <holycow> nero
[10:03] <BadRobot> kubuntu doesn't have one
[10:03] <holycow> lol
[10:03] <BadRobot> i've the original cd from conical
[10:03] <holycow> *ummm*
[10:03] <holycow> what SPECIFICALLY do you mean disc rescue?
[10:04] <holycow> sounds like you expect ubuntu to have some whizbang gui like on windows that you warezd?
[10:04] <BadRobot> my system is broken and i don't to go back to winxp
[10:04] <holycow> allright
[10:04] <BadRobot> i mean i don't want
[10:04] <holycow> so mount the hd/partition and copy files over
[10:04] <BadRobot> pls smart friendly people ,i am crying out for help
[10:04] <holycow> i'm giving you the answers
[10:05] <holycow> your not even showing interest
[10:05] <ubunturos> BadRobot: what caused the breakdown and what is broken exacvtly?
[10:05] <holycow> i would recommend you set aside the xp hd first and install ubuntu onto another hd
[10:05] <ubunturos> exactly*
[10:05] <holycow> then what you can do is mount the xp hd, copy your media and doc files over
[10:05] <holycow> and toast the rest
[10:06] <BadRobot> but i've a laptop
[10:06] <holycow> okay sounds like your most important function is to backup all your data
[10:06] <holycow> #1 yo uwon't be repairing a winxp install with a linux distro
[10:06] <holycow> it just doesn't work that way
[10:07] <holycow> #2 you can however use a live cd to backup your data first before doing anything
[10:07] <holycow> i would recommend that highly before trying anything else
[10:07] <holycow> once you have your data backed up you have tons of options
[10:07] <holycow> #3 would be to reinstall xp over top of it self, that is the best way to rescue your system
[10:07] <BadRobot> i have all backup already onto a external HDD
[10:08] <holycow> okay so whats the problem then?
[10:08] <BadRobot> is it there any to install it via external HDD
[10:08] <BadRobot> ?
[10:08] <holycow> you then have easy choices
[10:08] <holycow> reinstall xp over top of it self
[10:08] <holycow> install ubuntu
[10:08] <holycow> since you don't haveto worry about data loss, which of those steps are you tripping up on?
[10:09] <holycow> install what via external hdd?
[10:09] <holycow> you mean your backed up copy of xp?
[10:09] <holycow> that would depend on the software that backed up your xp
[10:09] <holycow> if it made an image of a known good working xp partition scheme, perhaps. but that is rather complicated.
[10:10] <holycow> why arent you just reinstalling xp over top of it self?
[10:10] <holycow> and using that software to reconstitute the data from external hdd?
[10:10] <holycow> you did everything correct so far
[10:11] <holycow> if you reinstall xp over top of it self, you don't even haveto format,  you have options to keep the data or just 'fix' xp
[10:11] <holycow> yes no maybe?
[10:12] <holycow> i'm doing all the typing here so i'm going to stop trying to help.
[10:12] <hangthedj_server> are we trouble shooting windows in #kubuntu?
[10:13] <holycow> no, having a hard time with a noob not wanting to listen to solid advice about how to fix his box
[10:13] <stdin> !noob
[10:13] <ubotu> Acronyms or statements like  noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[10:13] <bloody_> hi all, i have an nvidia gforce 7300/7200 graphic card, how do i install the driver?
[10:13] <jussi01> Hmmm, where is the menu file for grub kept again?
[10:13] <ardchoille> !nvidia | bloody_
[10:13] <ubotu> bloody_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:13] <bloody_> thanks
[10:13] <ardchoille> yw
[10:14] <stdin> jussi01: /boot/grub
[10:14] <BadRobot> i am waiting
[10:14] <holycow> ah jesus not again
[10:14] <BadRobot> sorry i just have a screaming child over here
[10:14] <holycow> oh thats okay
[10:14] <ardchoille> BadRobot: That's ok.. we get those in here too, lol
[10:14] <holycow> :)
[10:14] <BadRobot> and it is burning my neurons off
[10:15] <holycow> BadRobot: why not just reinstall xp over top of it self tho?
[10:15] <holycow> and use that backup app to bring back your data in worst case scenario
[10:15] <BadRobot> yep,i  could try it,i've the winxp sp2 cd
[10:15] <holycow> that will save you all the headache
[10:15] <BadRobot> but i have tried the original disk rescue and it didn't work
[10:15] <holycow> then you can either wipe the xp install with a kubuntu install or do a dual boot
[10:15] <jussi01> thanks stdin
[10:16] <holycow> BadRobot: linux typically can fix very specific technical issues
[10:16] <holycow> however
[10:16] <holycow> system wide issues where there are systems withing systems and co dependencies ...
[10:16] <hangthedj_server> !windows
[10:16] <BadRobot> the problem is that it fails/stops to install after 60%
[10:16] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[10:16] <holycow> you would be using the wrong tool for the job
[10:16] <holycow> reinstall than we will help you install kubuntu
[10:16] <holycow> hangthedj_server: they aren't asking for help with windows
[10:17] <BadRobot> i mean the Kubuntu,and it is a origanal Kubuntu cd form cononical
[10:17] <holycow> i'm offering it as a diplomatic hand so they don't end up blaming kubuntu community for the error
[10:17] <BadRobot> i mean I have got it from the shipit
[10:17] <holycow> what does the kubuntu cd haveto do with xp?
[10:17] <hangthedj_server> mostly i just like what ubotu has to say about windows
[10:17] <holycow> you said you were trying to get that running
[10:18] <holycow> explain once again what you are trying to do?
[10:18] <BadRobot> i don't think it is kubuntu's fault
[10:18] <BadRobot> i've had it on this laptop before
[10:18] <holycow> i really have no clue what you are trying to fix
[10:18] <BadRobot> *BSD
[10:18] <holycow> BadRobot: i really don't mean to be a jerk
[10:18] <holycow> i've typed like a thousand lines here already
[10:18] <BadRobot> i am trying to put kubuntu back'
[10:18] <holycow> so help me please
[10:18] <BadRobot> to the laptop
[10:18] <holycow> definewhat you want
[10:19] <holycow> just reinstall
[10:19] <holycow> why fix?
[10:19] <stdin> BadRobot: are you saying the kubuntu install fails/stops after 60% ?
[10:20] <BadRobot> but i have had other distro after kubuntu.first i had Kubuntu ,then fedora , pcbsd and now i would to go back to kubuntu
[10:20] <BadRobot> Yep i am saying the install fails/stop after 60% of the isntall
[10:20] <BadRobot> install
[10:21] <ardchoille> Anyone know why Tasty Menu isn't in the repos? It's a nice menu app I think: http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/5171/tastymenugv6.jpg
[10:21] <mauri> I have a problem with acetoneiso
[10:22] <holycow> stdin: you continue, clearly you have a better knack for this particular item
[10:23] <swanfl> hi all. How do I download gutsy to see kde 4.0 beta 2? or should I install feisty and then upgrade the repository list?
[10:23] <stdin> swanfl: see the topic
[10:23] <stdin> holycow: can't I need to go to seep :p
[10:23] <ardchoille> swanfl: Mixing repos isn't a good idea.
[10:25] <swanfl> it's ok, ardchoille, I'm testing it in vmware
[10:25] <ardchoille> ok
[10:25] <swanfl> I normally run gentoo but considering a switch
[10:26] <ardchoille> swanfl: I'd try gentoo but I can't find libpatience, lol
[10:26] <holycow> hehe :)
[10:26] <holycow>  i completely understand
[10:26] <swanfl> ROFLMAO
[10:27] <bloody_> is any way to change my default internet manager?, i'm having problems with konqueror and kopete
[10:27] <bloody_> i'm not using ethernet or wifi, i'm using an usb modem to have internet
[10:27] <swanfl> do you remember the joke that says it always take 3days to install gentoo? it's not so bad now. It only takes 2 and a half days :)
[10:28] <ardchoille> bloody_: Open kcontrol, then go to KDE Components -> Default Applications  and have a look at that list.
[10:28] <ardchoille> swanfl: hahaha
[10:28] <bloody_> thanks
[10:28] <combinio> i have installed many programms via AUTOMATIX, will they be working if i remove automatix ?? :}
[10:28] <mauri> I have a problem with acetoneiso
[10:28] <ardchoille> bloody_: Not sure if that's what you want but you can try and see.
[10:28] <holycow> combinio: yes BUT
[10:28] <holycow> they won't work after you upgrade
[10:29] <holycow> you should NEVER use automatix
[10:29] <combinio> holycow: but what ?? ;>
[10:29] <holycow> !automatix
[10:29] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[10:29] <combinio> holycow: way?
[10:29] <ardchoille> combinio: If you've used automatix, your system may already be broken or waiting to
[10:29] <holycow> way
[10:29] <combinio> thanks autom. i have lot of programms that i should never have without it ;P
[10:29] <combinio> for example non-free codec and archive tool (winrar, unzip, etc.)
[10:30] <ardchoille> rubbish, anything automatix can do, you can do if you read a bit
[10:30] <holycow> bs
[10:30] <holycow> automatix does nothing for you
[10:30] <combinio> ardchoille: so how u installed codecs and archive tools ? ;>
[10:30] <radek> hello, please how can I restart my PCMCIA wlan0 card?
[10:30] <holycow> you can do everything with standard repos
[10:30] <holycow> ifdown wlan0
[10:30] <holycow> ifup wlan0
[10:30] <ardchoille> !seveas | combinio
[10:30] <ubotu> combinio: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[10:30] <bloody_> well, it looks like it can help, just that i can't change my default internet connection
[10:30] <combinio> holycow: sure i can but where can i get names of those programms from ?
[10:30] <bloody_> is just a little usb modem attached to one of my usb ports
[10:30] <Mr_Sonoma> combinio, how do you figure? i have non free codecs
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[10:31] <holycow> combinio: *sigh*
[10:31] <holycow> combinio: let me put it this way
[10:31] <combinio> Mr_Sonoma: there is lot of these codecs... how can i know their names
[10:31] <bloody_> so how can i make that connection my default, because i can't use konqueror or kopete
[10:31] <holycow> expereiienced users are giving you advice
[10:31] <holycow> look at the number of people in this channel
[10:31] <combinio> but now - even if i remove automatix my system still might broke
[10:31] <mauri> how can I mount a dvd iso image
[10:31] <bloody_> let die automatix
[10:31] <holycow> if the data on the bot says not to use automatix
[10:31] <swanfl> ok folks, I'll probably be back later for help in upgrading to try kde4
[10:31] <bloody_> i had problems once
[10:31] <holycow> don't you think its there for a good reason?
[10:31] <combinio> 'so none of u use automatix ?!
[10:32] <combinio> crap
[10:32] <Mr_Sonoma> combinio, ask around or google. people in here are 99% of the time more than willing to help
[10:32] <bloody_> a lot of libraries where destroyed or missing
[10:32] <bloody_> and some of them depended from others and i had to reinstall all kubuntu
[10:32] <combinio> and they says it works well :/ it is recommended on many ubuntu sites :/
[10:32] <ardchoille> combinio: I used it once, a year ago.. it trashed my system, haven't used it since and I can still do everything automatix can.
[10:32] <holycow> bloody_: after using it  you haveto reinstall
[10:32] <holycow> thats the problem with automatix
[10:32] <combinio> i feel cheated :/
[10:32] <Mr_Sonoma> combinio, no i do not and will not
[10:32] <holycow> you don't know what it broke and there is no way of fixing it
[10:33] <holycow> combinio: absolutely
[10:33] <holycow> combinio: all they had to do was create a repo
[10:33] <holycow> and provide some metapackages for all that stuff
[10:33] <holycow> combinio: not only did they hose you
[10:33] <combinio> so if it so dangerous for OS why they let people to download that shit ?
[10:33] <bloody_> oh i see, well, i'm not using it anymore, the way of linux is awesome, if you can't from one way there's always a lot of ways
[10:33] <holycow> they made their job VERY hard
[10:33] <bloody_> to install what you want, that's the good part
[10:33] <holycow> combinio: thats the cost of freedom
[10:33] <jussi01> !!restricted
[10:33] <combinio> so i'm going back to window$ ;P
[10:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:33] <bloody_> why combinio
[10:33] <holycow> for example, i am pretty much an opinionated asshole
[10:34] <bloody_> believe me, here in mexico, all uses windows
 one question please, do you know command for restart PCMCIA bus?
[10:34] <combinio> jussi01: thanks for that bt just a little to late :] 
[10:34] <holycow> you REALLY don't want me to be telling you what you can or can't install on your box :)
[10:34] <bloody_> but i discovered the power
[10:34] <Mr_Sonoma> ewwwwwwwwww someone said windows!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! get it off my screen!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *grin*
[10:34] <jussi01> combinio: probably, i only just looked at the discussion
[10:34] <combinio> actually no... cuz soon there is comming Gutsy
[10:34] <bloody_> to have an open source OS it's amazing
[10:34] <jussi01> !offtopic
[10:34] <combinio> so if i reinstall my system...
[10:34] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[10:35] <combinio> wait a sec... i have one question
[10:35] <ardchoille> combinio: whether or not you reinstall, always come here for help. This is the best channel for *buntu support that I've ever seen.
[10:35] <holycow> ubuntu is good too
[10:35] <holycow> this is a kubuntu channel specifically
[10:36] <bloody_> if i put in proxy settings autodetec proxy, maybe i can connect from my usb modem? or that's not a good idea?
[10:36] <holycow> google your usb modem, i don't know if your particular one will be supported
[10:36] <holycow> but
[10:36] <combinio> now i have Feisty - "/" and "/home" - on different partitions. how can i install gutsy so my home folder will stay untouched ??
[10:36] <holycow> what would a proxy setting haveto do with a modem?
[10:37] <combinio> is this possible ?
[10:37] <holycow> your modem will simply connect you to your isps network and hand you a dhcp address
[10:37] <holycow> proxying usually has nothing to do with it
[10:37] <holycow> combinio: during install just leave the home partition alone
[10:37] <ardchoille> combinio: Keep in mind that Gutsy is beta and problems should be expected. Also join #ubuntu+1 for Gusty help.
[10:37] <Seek_Therapy> Ok how do i editing /etc/hosts by adding the host name to 127.0.0.1
[10:37] <bloody_> thanks
[10:37] <holycow> i would just recommend you back it up
[10:37] <bloody_> well, back to firefox again xD
[10:38] <bloody_> or can i uninstall konqueror and reinstall it?
[10:38] <combinio> ardchoille: not now... just in December...
[10:38] <holycow> Seek_Therapy: sudo nano /etc/hosts ... is that what you are looking for?
[10:38] <BadRobot> Yep Automatix is evil
[10:38] <ardchoille> combinio: Oh, you should be ok by then
[10:38] <combinio> and how to check out is my system crashed ??
[10:38] <Seek_Therapy> no
[10:38] <BadRobot> it has destroied my laptop
[10:39] <combinio> holycow: thanks for answer... i just dont want to lose all my data saved in /home folder :] 
[10:39] <Seek_Therapy> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/94048
[10:39] <Seek_Therapy> thats what i am trying to do
[10:40] <holycow> combinio: well what you REALLY want to do ...
[10:40] <holycow> is load up a live cd and copy your home dir to external storage device
[10:40] <combinio> holycow: i don't know what u mean :P
[10:40] <combinio> what is this external storage device ?
[10:41] <combinio> i just want to have a Gutsy in december with my /home foder ;P
[10:43] <holycow> combinio: usb disk
[10:43] <holycow> external hard drive
[10:43] <combinio> oh that way
[10:43] <holycow> well its the easiest
[10:43] <bloody_> is there any way to configure a multimedia keyboard?
[10:43] <holycow> there are lots of other ways
[10:43] <combinio> but... my home folder is about 60 GB so i'm not sure where i can get such big USB disc :D
[10:44] <holycow> i DID say external hard drive
[10:44] <holycow> man you know, i'm getting too old to do tech support
[10:44] <holycow> i fricking hate repeating my self
[10:44] <holycow> dude no offense i mean this in the nicest way possible
[10:44] <bloody_> i have volume control keys, but when y push the up volume only goes to 10% it doesn't past to 20% xD
[10:44] <holycow> i KNOW you speak spanish primarily
[10:44] <holycow> but i am going to stop helping right now, your pissing me off
[10:45] <mikedomo> gnu/linux power
[10:45] <mikedomo> :D
[10:46] <bloody_> holycow, is it better to have kubuntu in a notebook that in a desktop?
[10:46] <mikedomo> well i have kubuntu in a desktop
[10:47] <bloody_> yeah?
[10:47] <mikedomo> run me very fast
[10:47] <bloody_> cuz i have a new desktop man
[10:47] <bloody_> and well you know, linux lover xD
[10:47] <holycow> bloody_: well it doesn't matter really
[10:47] <bloody_> o i see
[10:47] <holycow> typically laptops have a bit more specialized hardware
[10:47] <holycow> so there are more components that won't work
[10:47] <mikedomo> linux is very fast in the aplications amazing
[10:48] <holycow> things like finger scanners, i don't know if those ar supported
[10:48] <bloody_> i thought that the chipsets and all that's stuff can make an easy way for drivers
[10:48] <phra> hi - running kubuntu on some newer laptops can be painfull
[10:48] <holycow> bloody_: if you stick with intel right now, yes you will have most things work out of the box
[10:48] <holycow> but
[10:48] <phra> ex. Acer laptops of a friend: no sound, no wifi :-/
[10:48] <holycow> finger scanner is not controlled by chipset
[10:48] <holycow> neither are onboard laptop cameras
[10:48] <mikedomo> you have the reason in the laptops the software is more specialicism and some times the kernle dont have some drivers
[10:48] <holycow> nor are touch screen, or keyboard lights and things like that
[10:48] <bloody_> or the port to conect a projector :(
[10:49] <holycow> so you haveto just be aware, it WILL work but a few bits and pieces will either require a bit of work or wont work
[10:49] <holycow> and thats okay
[10:49] <mikedomo> periphericals
[10:49] <holycow> no port projectors work
[10:49] <bloody_> i had to expose at class, but i couldn't install the that port
[10:49] <phra> i can recommend using linux-distros on older but high-quality laptops, like IBM T41
[10:49] <holycow> if you have a supported video chipset, say nvidia or intel
[10:49] <holycow> you just haveto configure your xorg.conf file
[10:49] <holycow> i've made it work on many laptops
[10:49] <bloody_> yeah, i saw something about layout in my laptop right?
[10:50] <holycow> peripherals will typically work provided you reserached ahead of purchasing
[10:50] <holycow> bloody_: roughly yes
[10:50] <holycow> bloody_: we can do basically anything windows can and then some
[10:50] <holycow> BUT
[10:50] <holycow> we just don't have tons of nice guis for everything
[10:50] <holycow> so it can be done but until we get a gui for xorg (in gutsy i hear) you will haveto do it by hand
[10:51] <bloody_> yeah you're right, as you can imagine, is weird here in mexico to find someone using linux
[10:51] <holycow> what phra says is good advice although i just bought this:
[10:51] <Mr_Sonoma> xorg is going to have a gui in Gutsy?
[10:51] <bloody_> yeah, i found i guide, and it tolds me to copy exactly my screen configuration
[10:51] <holycow> http://geekstuff4u.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=&products_id=582
[10:51] <bloody_> and just modifiy the screenlayout
[10:52] <holycow> the only things that don't work on that are the keyboard light (yet, working on it) and finger scanner (working on it)
[10:52] <holycow> other than that it works perfect
[10:52] <holycow> i just had to find a utility that calibrates the touchscreen and that works too
[10:52] <holycow> of course xrandr lets us re-orient the display too
[10:52] <bloody_> yeah, well, in my laptop(dell inspiron 9400) kubuntu works amazing
[10:52] <mauri> how can I mount a dvd iso image
[10:53] <holycow> an di have button shortcuts programmed to run shell scripts that do this automatically
[10:53] <holycow> so its not like you can't get new laptops to work
[10:53] <holycow> stick with intel and you should be fine on laptops
[10:53] <ardchoille> !mount
[10:53] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[10:53] <ardchoille> !dvd
[10:53] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[10:53] <bloody_> well that's true, yeah, like dell works with intel, i don't have any windows xp or vista
[10:54] <phra> @holycow: your little machine, looks amazing - unfortunately $1600 is a lot of money compared to a used IBM T40 for EUR400 :-)
[10:54] <holycow> phra: sure, but this is also the size of my hand
[10:54] <holycow> i carry it everywhere
[10:54] <bloody_> and like i'm studying computer's system engineer, well i can program with netbeans or eclipse and anjuta
[10:55] <holycow> i can sit and eat dinner with it and code without having to move my dinner aside :)
[10:55] <holycow> there is a trade off
[10:55] <holycow> bloody_: cool
[10:55] <bloody_> i really love kubuntu, thanks for the informative talk holycow
[10:55] <ardchoille> holycow: When I get into a computer project, food takes a back seat.
[10:56] <phra> holycow: as always, it seems that these nice devices are for the japanese market :-/
[10:57] <bloody_> how can i change from root to my user
[10:57] <phra> su?
[10:57] <hangthedj_server> mauri: make a dir like /home/*/iso then sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop /path/to/iso /home/*/iso
[10:57] <bloody_> no no wait
[10:57] <bloody_> the correct question is
[10:57] <bloody_> how can i uninstall an aplication
[10:58] <ardchoille> bloody_: sudo apt-get remove app_name
[10:58] <phra> bloody: have you checked the Ubuntu/Kubuntu FAQs?
[10:58] <bloody_> thanks
[10:58] <ardchoille> bloody_: If you want to completely remove it and its deps: sudo apt-get remove --purge --auto-remove app_name
[10:58] <bloody_> i screwed my yakuake installation using sudo yakuake
[10:59] <Seek_Therapy> Is mexico fixing their corrupted government
[10:59] <bloody_> and all of my command lines appears as root
[10:59] <bloody_> nee
[10:59] <bloody_> all of us are gonna die that way
[10:59] <mauri> hangthedj_server: cosi dici che parte in automatico kaffeine
[10:59] <Seek_Therapy> or is it still ran by the cartel
[10:59] <phra> regarding fingerprint-readers, I would always suggest to encrypt the data on the harddrive (ENCFS, Truecrypt) since the data will be available, when the harddrive is attached to another computer
[10:59] <hangthedj_server> mauri: ?
[10:59] <holycow> phra: no. thats incorrect
[11:00] <holycow> all this stuff comes out in japan first
[11:00] <holycow> then it makes its way here
[11:00] <holycow> those will be available in north america next year
[11:00] <Seek_Therapy> just curious
[11:00] <phra> yeah - but I live in good old germany :-) all these nice Sharp devices that were able to run linux never made it to germany.
[11:00] <bloody_> i really don't pay a lot of attention to the goverment here
[11:00] <bloody_> but i guess yes
[11:01] <holycow> phra: i'm actually thinking of striking a deal with these folks
[11:01] <holycow> and offering a linux preinstalled version with everything working
[11:01] <mauri> hangthedj_server: sorry,....by your suggestion, do you think that kaffeine will play automatically?
[11:02] <hangthedj> mauri: i don't think so.  if you don't have anything in your cd/dvd drive you can always mount the iso at /media/cdrom0 and it might open automatically or at least give you an option
[11:03] <Seek_Therapy> I hear the mexican cartel is making HUGE money on crystal meth
[11:03] <mauri> hangthedj: thanks
[11:03] <mauri> i will try
[11:03] <Seek_Therapy> thats great !
[11:03] <bloody_> holycow, i have an amd 64 bits dual core processor, and i installed kubuntu ff 64bits, do you know if it really take advantage of all?
[11:04] <holycow> well depends what you mean
[11:04] <phra> holycow: would be cool - but for most people it would be enough to preinstalled linux on laptops like the T40s.
[11:04] <holycow> for compiling and rendering 3d animation yes
[11:04] <holycow> maybe for doing 2d compositing too
[11:04] <bloody_> yeah?
[11:04] <holycow> but for almostnothing else, no
[11:04] <bloody_> oo thanks holycow, xD
[11:04] <holycow> most apps aren't capable of using 64 bit'ness
[11:04] <holycow> infact
[11:04] <holycow> most apps arent even multithreaded!
[11:05] <holycow> firefox for example is single threaded, and they intend on keeping it that way
[11:05] <holycow> despite the fact that we are having multicore cpus now standard
[11:05] <holycow> that goes for windows world too btw
[11:05] <holycow> and all other oses
[11:05] <holycow> for regular users, they just don't do things that can use 64 bit cpus offer
[11:05] <bloody_> lol xD, well i used ubuntu 32bits for a while but i have a problem, i had to choose from 2 ways
[11:05] <bloody_> 1.- to watch videos
[11:05] <holycow> unless they compile, do 3d rendering, 2d compositing or something specialized like that
[11:06] <bloody_> or 2.- to have compiz-fusion
[11:06] <holycow> i use only 32 bit, i have absolutely no need for 64 bit
[11:06] <bloody_> =O
[11:06] <holycow> 64 bit won't really help you in either of those situations
[11:06] <holycow> first
[11:06] <holycow> compiz is mostly handled by your video card
[11:06] <Seek_Therapy> maybe you can try crystal meth too bloody_....I hear is wonderful for people
[11:06] <holycow> your cpu does dick to handle compiz
[11:06] <bloody_> thanks seek
[11:07] <holycow> second watching videos, your video players are not coded to use 64 bit cpus i'm almost certain of it
[11:07] <Seek_Therapy> anytime
[11:07] <holycow> there simply is no need for them to do so to begin with
[11:07] <Seek_Therapy> do what ?
[11:07] <bloody_> o thanks holy, so i have to have a better graphic card on my notebook? :P
[11:07] <bloody_> cuz it's from the chipset what i have now
[11:10] <Seek_Therapy> f13gma ..I bet you know libor<giggles>
[11:11] <bloody_> why i don't have administration in my system folder
[11:17] <bloody_> holycow, if my video card it's and Nvidia GeForce 7300 GS/ 7200 TC what driver should i use, cuz, i can't see my video card on the list
[11:18] <llutz> bloody_: 7300GS works fine with nvidia-glx-new here
[11:18] <holycow> i don't know the answer to that, i have only bought intel stuff for about a year now
[11:18] <bloody_> a ok thanks
[11:18] <Pinky> hello
[11:18] <bloody_> llutz but in the box
[11:18] <bloody_> of my video card it says 7200
[11:18] <bloody_> so there's no problem? it has a red dragon and says zogis xd
[11:19] <llutz> bloody_: no idea, sorry. ask "lspci" which chipset you really have. but i guess -glx-new should be fine for 7300 and 7200
[11:20] <Pinky> having trouble with sound
[11:20] <bloody_> that's wath appeared
[11:20] <bloody_> 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 01d3 (rev a1)
[11:20] <holycow> either that or wait until gutsy, that should have latest nvidia drivers
[11:22] <Pinky> anyone know how to fix sound issues
[11:22] <bloody_> llutz how can i enter to administration, cuz in system doesn't appear
[11:22] <Pinky> i have no sound
[11:23] <llutz> bloody_: kdesu kcontrol
[11:24] <bloody_> thanks
[11:24] <Pinky> i have 2 sound cards, 1 is unsupported and the other is a HD audio card
[11:25] <Pinky> a lspci finds them, but using the sound controller gui can't find any devices
[11:26] <bloody_> llutz once installed the driver what should i do?
[11:27] <bloody_> should i reboot the x?
[11:27] <llutz> bloody_: change "driver" in xorg.conf to nvidia and keep your fingers crossed, that it works
[11:27] <bloody_> haha thanks man
[11:28] <bsd007vash> Hi, anyone here know how to install this http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=65767&forumpage=0
[11:28] <llutz> bloody_: i heard a lot guys had trouble with it, i haven't had any.
[11:29] <bloody_> well, let's see how it works for me, i hope it don't crash xD
[11:29] <llutz> bloody_: keep a backup of your working xorg.conf
[11:29] <bloody_> what was the command? :P
[11:30] <llutz> bloody_: sudo cp /etc/X11xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[11:31] <xp_killer> llutz: wa is the xorg file for?what info it shows?
[11:31] <bloody_> hey llutz
[11:32] <bloody_> so then i have to change this?
[11:32] <bloody_> driver "nv to driver "nvidia"?
[11:32] <llutz> xp_killer: xorg.conf is the configuration-file for xorg, surprise
[11:32] <llutz> bloody_: yes
[11:32] <bloody_> thanks man
[11:32] <bloody_> wish me luck xD
[11:33] <xp_killer> xorg surprise?
[11:33] <bloody_> no, he said surprise cuz it's all of your devices configurations
[11:34] <alloosh> hi, how do I allow shh services
[11:35] <emilsedgh> alloosh: sudo apt-get install openssh
[11:36] <Pinky> no one know how to fix sound with two sound cards?
[11:36] <bloody_> llutz, how can i know if it worked?
[11:36] <llutz> bloody_: restart X
[11:37] <bloody_> i did it :P
[11:37] <llutz> bloody_: glxinfo |grep render
[11:37] <bloody_> but i don't know how much resolution can i use with this video card
[11:37] <bloody_> direct rendering: Yes
[11:37] <bloody_> OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 7300 SE/PCI/SSE2
[11:37] <bloody_>     GL_NVX_conditional_render, GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap, GL_SGIS_texture_lod,
[11:37] <bloody_> check dude, that appeared
[11:37] <Seek_Therapy> pinky what version of linux are you running
[11:38] <Pinky> fiesty fawn
[11:38] <bloody_> is that correct llutz?
[11:38] <llutz> bloody_: so it worked.
[11:38] <Seek_Therapy> what brand sound card
[11:38] <alloosh> I want to be able to connect to my kubuntu machine from other machines, what do i need to install?
[11:39] <Pinky> one is Creative X-Fi, the other is one that came with my p5n32-e motherboard
[11:39] <Pinky> i know x-fi isn't supported, so i'm trying to use the motherboard one
[11:40] <mimagyc> Link for the french support ?
[11:41] <llutz> bloody_: to change resolution, you have to edit xorg.conf, "section Screen", Subsection Display", there the "Modes" line
[11:41] <llutz> !fr | mimagyc
[11:41] <ubotu> mimagyc: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:41] <bloody_> thanks llutz
[11:41] <bloody_> now the compiz-fusion part xD
[11:41] <bloody_> thanks llutz
[11:41] <llutz> bloody_: forget about that useless stuff :)
[11:41] <alloosh> hi, how do I activate the ssh?
[11:42] <bloody_> xD
[11:42] <bloody_> about compiz-fusion?:P
[11:42] <llutz> bloody_: yes
[11:42] <bloody_> it looks nice man xD
[11:42] <llutz> bloody_: it's like playboy-models: nice to see but without any use
[11:43] <Seek_Therapy> have you checked your drivers
[11:43] <mimagyc> ce ou pour le francais ?
[11:43] <Seek_Therapy> Bonjour
[11:43] <Seek_Therapy> no
[11:43] <mimagyc> bonjour ^^
[11:44] <bloody_> hahaha xD
[11:44] <mimagyc> je n'ai aps le lien pour le support en francais ...?
[11:44] <pag> !fr | mimagyc
[11:44] <ubotu> mimagyc: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:44] <mimagyc> !fr
[11:45] <llutz> mimagyc: type "/j #kubuntu-fr"  to join
[11:45] <Seek_Therapy> why not stick around and learn english
[11:47] <xp_killer> alloosh: check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto and choose your option,but i tink wat u looking for is how to
[11:47] <xp_killer> lol
[11:52] <bloody_> how do i install mp3 codecs?, with libxine1-ffmpeg?
[11:53] <llutz> bloody_: sudo aptitude install libxine-extracodecs
[11:53] <yu_aider> can anybody help me with my usb ports refusing to work after a random period of time?
[11:53] <bloody_> thanks, and the other command i gave you, what is it for man?
[11:54] <llutz> bloody_: what command?
[11:54] <Seek_Therapy> pinky
[11:54] <bloody_> sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg
[11:54] <llutz> bloody_: nearly the same
[11:54] <Seek_Therapy> do you have your drivers installed? stupid question but
[11:54] <bloody_> what from both is better man
[11:54] <llutz> bloody_: libxine-extracodecs installs a few more needed codecs
[11:55] <yu_aider> damnit
[11:55] <yu_aider> nobody can help me about my usb issues :(
[11:56] <bloody_> thanks man
[11:59] <xp_killer> yu_aider: i dont know your problem with your usb port.u can try this link
[11:59] <xp_killer> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=usb&titlesearch=Titles
[11:59] <yu_aider> tnx...
[12:05] <vprints> does anyone know why the daily langpacks don't work ?
[12:05] <vprints> (for gutsy)
[12:11] <Black_Monkey> hi, I just installed beta 2 on feisty, but I don't seem to have the kde4 versions of apps like kopete, konversation (even after installing kde4network) and kicker
[12:13] <bloody_> hi i have just installed beryl xD but i can't see my windows borders xD
[12:13] <bloody_> what should i do? O_o
[12:14] <bloody_> i can't see my windows borders xD
[12:16] <dereine> hi all
[12:18] <xp_killer> bloody_: your what?
[12:18] <xp_killer> hi
[12:18] <emilsedgh> !hi | dereine
[12:18] <ubotu> dereine: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[12:18] <dereine> it is possible to have 2 kontrol-panels with different size?
[12:18] <xp_killer> dereine: yes
[12:18] <dereine> how
[12:19] <jussi01> !compiz | bloody_
[12:19] <ubotu> bloody_: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:19] <xp_killer> dereine: right click your panel then add the type of panel u want
[12:19] <walkover> hey! does anyone know how to make kde use double click instead of single click when using icons
[12:20] <dereine> @walkover
[12:20] <walkover> ?
[12:20] <dereine> kcontrol -> mouse
[12:21] <dereine> and there the first tab
[12:21] <dereine> so i added one kontrol-panel
[12:21] <dereine> but how can i change the height
[12:22] <walkover> thanks! dont know why i did'nt see it the first time
[12:22] <dereine> another question when i active the KDE-Decorator with Compiz-Fusion the window-decoration is displayed wrong
[12:23] <xp_killer> dereine: right clic panel config choos the leingt u want
[12:23] <djdarkman> hy, I have a serious problem, kde`s network configuration panel doesn`t do things right, what should I use?
[12:24] <dereine> perhaps restart the network with : sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[12:24] <xp_killer> dereine: i dont use compiz check #ubuntu-effects for help
[12:25] <dereine> i have 2 kontrolpanels but i can only change the first one
[12:25] <Alloosh> asking again, I have ssh installed, but I cant connect to my machine from other machines using vnc, what should I so ?
[12:26] <Alloosh> I also dont see the ssh in the services.
[12:28] <emilsedgh> Alloosh: do you want to setup e remote desktop? why you need ssh? for vnc?
[12:30] <xp_killer> Alloosh: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=ssh&titlesearch=Titles ssh https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=vnc&titlesearch=Titles vnc check it out to see if it helps
[12:30] <tobias_> anyone can tell me why I cant compile pingus? I extracted the files but when I want to ./configure it says there is no such file or directory - but I am in the right directory - so what gives ?
[12:30] <Alloosh> emilsedgh: I want to be able to reach my computer from other machines, so vnc is fine
[12:31] <emilsedgh> Alloosh: vnc needs ssh? i dont think so...?
[12:31] <llutz> Alloosh: to use vnc remote you need a running vnc-server locally
[12:32] <Alloosh> well, let me put it like that, I want to be able to reach my desktop while iam not here:)
[12:32] <tobias_> okay, problem fixed, I need to use "scons" - but wtf is that? ._.
[12:33] <Sergemine> Guys, Dear Ubuntu/Linux GURUs, what is your favourite KDE download manager? or best KDE/Gnome download manager. 'Cause the symple yet good KGET takes 120% of my CPU !! PLS suggest a good one
[12:37] <emilsedgh> Sergemine: I think there is a new one in kde-apps
[12:38] <Sergemine> emilsedgh, would that one be compiled for Ubuntu?
[12:39] <emilsedgh> Sergemine: I dont know, let me find it first, if it was good i will try to compile and make a package for feisty
[12:40] <Sergemine> emilsedgh, WOW! thank you so much!!!
[12:43] <tobias_> mhm I tried to compile scons 0.97 - and scons worked fine but when I want to install it via "sudo scons install" it just says:
[12:43] <tobias_> scons: *** Do not know how to make target `install'.  Stop.
[12:44] <mimagyc> Bonjour
[12:44] <mimagyc> je cherhce a pouvoir lire un dvd sous kubuntu
[12:44] <mimagyc> comment procd, il me fait une erreur
[12:44] <mimagyc> il me mank un module
[12:45] <llutz> !fr | mimagyc
[12:45] <ubotu> mimagyc: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:48] <emilsedgh_> Sergemine: thats Doka
[12:49] <emilsedgh_> Sergemine: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/doKa?content=51747
[12:52] <Sergemine> emilsedgh_ , thank you very much! I don't see it in Ubuntu repos. will search for a deb
[12:54] <kcg> !grub
[12:54] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:54] <madre> hola
[12:55] <hola> hola
[01:01] <emilsedgh___> Sergemine: i tried to compile doka, its current version is not clean, many problems...I suggest you to use d4x (Downloader4X) and wait for kde4
[01:02] <Sergemine> emilsedgh_ , =) thank again. And I am waiting for KDE4 already!
[01:02] <emilsedgh> Sergemine: everybody is :)
[01:27] <Ace2016> Hi all
[01:27] <Ace2016> does anyone else have a folder called: /dev/.static/dev/
[01:30] <waylandbill> Ace2016: yup
[01:30] <Ryiel> guys, I've got a new philips mp3 player (portable flash drive), and ubuntu does not recognize it or does not mount it. Any idea?
[01:30] <Ace2016> ok just wondering because rkhunter found them
[01:32] <Snoopotic> hi
[01:32] <Ace2016> hi
[01:42] <deviance> Ryi
[01:42] <deviance> Ryiel: Search the name of it and linux in google and you will find some forums of people who have had the same problem, then see what their answer was
[01:43] <Ryiel> thanks
[01:52] <jussi01> Hei all, can someone tell me how to figure out where in /dev a usb device is?
[01:57] <Ace2016> jussi01: it should be /dev/sd* e.g mine are /dev/sda1, but if you have sata hard drives they'll show up as sd* too so it might be sdb or sdc
[01:58] <jussi01> Ace2016: no, just a usb device
[02:03] <Ace2016> yea they show up as sd* even my camera shows up like that
[02:04] <jussi01> Ace2016: its not a starge device. its a modem
[02:06] <tatters> anyone sync 2 machines with koffice data ??
[02:07] <llutz> jussi01: look for /dev/usb/ttyACM*
[02:16] <Ace2016> jussi01: sorry i seem to have confused you the person asking about the mp3 player
[02:16] <jussi01> hehe, ok
[02:18] <Ace2016> what modem is it? sometimes you have to compile and install driver modules
[02:21] <ubunturos> would Kubuntu 7.10 be shipped using shipit?
[02:23] <jussi01> Ace2016: yes, I do have to. Ineed the information for that.
[02:23] <ironfroggy> has anyone else used the wubi installer?
[02:23] <jussi01> ubunturos: I would say so, yes. when it comes out
[02:23] <ubunturos> jussi01: umm, hope so.
[02:24] <Ace2016> well you could drist upgrade to it
[02:28] <ubuntu_> Buenas necesito ayuda con kubuntu fesity fawm
[02:29] <eddjc3> hi all
[02:29] <aaron> hello guys
[02:30] <aaron> anyone on
[02:30] <aaron> dang
[02:30] <eddjc3> is there a way of getting kubuntu to start without loading kubuntu desktop (i.e. in command line only?)
[02:30] <jussi01> !es | ubuntu_
[02:30] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:30] <aaron> lol
[02:31] <aaron> !kubuntu
[02:31] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[02:31] <ubunturos> eddjc3: you mean just the console?
[02:31] <ubuntu_> ok gracias
[02:31] <ubuntu_> ok thanks
[02:31] <eddjc3> ubunturos: yep
[02:32] <ubunturos> eddjc3: when you get the login screen, you'll see "Menu" button. Click on it and choose console login
[02:32] <aaron> eddjc3: check out the FAQs on kubuntu.com
[02:32] <eddjc3> won't that still have loaded the graphic interface though
[02:32] <ubunturos> eddjc3: or you could press CTRL + ALT + F1
[02:32] <ubunturos> eddjc3: only on tty7
[02:32] <eddjc3> tty7?
[02:33] <aaron> serial port 7
[02:34] <eddjc3> I'm not sure I understand...
[02:34] <hismajesty> hello
[02:34] <aaron> hi
[02:34] <eddjc3> I'll try those things though
[02:34] <eddjc3> cheers!
[02:34] <hismajesty> how could we kill a bloqued window
[02:34] <hismajesty> ?
[02:35] <llutz> hismajesty: xkill, ctrl-alt-exc
[02:35] <llutz> esc
[02:35] <hismajesty> thanks
[02:35] <harmental80> hey guys...how can i change mu login face in kubuntu?
[02:35] <harmental80> "about me" seems not to be working properly
[02:35] <aaron> Settings>Identites
[02:36] <coder_newbie> hi togehter
[02:36] <aaron> harmental: oh sorry i thought u meant Konversation
[02:37] <hismajesty> i have some pb with the visual effect
[02:37] <hismajesty> and my beryl does'nt work
[02:37] <hismajesty> what should i do?
[02:37] <llutz> hismajesty: uninstall that useless crap
[02:38] <aaron> harmental80: Go to the start menu> System Settings> About Me> and click the button next to your name for pictures
[02:38] <harmental80> aaron:
[02:38] <harmental80> i've already tried that...
[02:38] <aaron> ok
[02:38] <harmental80> but my login image does not change...
[02:38] <hismajesty> what is the crap?
[02:38] <aaron> huh
[02:40] <coder_newbie> I have a question where could I search for other IRC Server ? could anybody help me pls ... sorry for my bad english :-(
[02:40] <eddjc3> hey all
[02:40] <eddjc3> bnack again
[02:40] <eddjc3> CTRL + ALT + F1 is an interseting one - how do you return to the KDE desktop when after you've used it?
[02:41] <llutz>  CTRL + ALT + F7
[02:41] <eddjc3> (sorry re: spelling)
[02:41] <eddjc3> ahh
[02:41] <eddjc3> cheers
[02:42] <llutz> and no, tty7 is NO serial port :)
[02:43] <aaron> tty7 is a VIRTUAL CONSOLE port, or if u have actually 8 serial ports on your comp, its a serial COM port
[02:43] <dummzeuch> Can anybody help me with a dual monitor setup on an ATI Radeon 9200 SE?
[02:44] <aaron> dummzeuch whats wrong with it
[02:44] <llutz> aaron: tht would be ttyS7, not tty7
[02:44] <dummzeuch> I have one monitor connected to the VGA the other connected to the DVI port of the card.
[02:44] <aaron> hmm seems like my 1 day linux experience is failing me, lol
[02:45] <aaron> i just got Kubuntu yesturday
[02:45] <dummzeuch> I only get the same picture on both monitors but want to extend the desktop over both.
[02:45] <aaron> hmm let me look it up
[02:45] <llutz> dummzeuch: enable xinerama
[02:45] <dummzeuch> llutz: Any hint on how to do that? Link?
[02:46] <dummzeuch> (I already tried Google)
[02:46] <eddjc3> i see aaron - thanks
[02:46] <llutz> dummzeuch: Option "xinerama" "true" in "Serverflags" or maybe read the manpage for your graphicsdriver, it might have an own Option for it
[02:47] <dummzeuch> llutz: Already tried that.
[02:47] <dummzeuch> Is it even possible with that card?
[02:48] <aaron> new color
[02:48] <dummzeuch> Trying to define two devices always gets me an error regarding PCI-1:0:1
[02:49] <eddjc3> hey all - anyone know anything about vsftpd? on trying to run it I get '500 OOPS: could not bind listening IPv4 socket'
[02:49] <aaron> dummzeuch: did you set up your bios to have both the intergrated card and the external card to be on??
[02:50] <llutz> dummzeuch: already read http://tonywhitmore.co.uk/blog/2006/02/07/dual-head-on-ati-radeon-9200-se-under-ubuntu/ ?
[02:50] <dummzeuch> aaron: There is only one card.
[02:50] <aaron> oh
[02:50] <aaron> didnt know that
[02:50] <aaron> ok
[02:50] <dummzeuch> aaron: That's why I asked whether it is even possible
[02:51] <dummzeuch> llutz: Yes, I tried that yesterday. Got the error re PCI:1:0:1
[02:51] <aaron> did you set the video output on your bios to that card?
[02:52] <aaron> not to the Intergrated, that is what messed mine up
[02:52] <dummzeuch> aaron: I don't have an on board card. I get a picture on both monitors, but it's the same picture.
[02:53] <llutz> dummzeuch: tried "clone "off""
[02:53] <dummzeuch> llutz: where?
[02:53] <llutz> dummzeuch: Section ServerLayout
[02:55] <dummzeuch> llutz: I'll try that, thanks
[02:56] <eddjc3> hey all - anyone know anything about vsftpd? on trying to run it I get '500 OOPS: could not bind listening IPv4 socket'
[02:57] <tatters> maybe it already running?
[02:58] <eddjc3> i don't think so - how can I check?
[02:59] <tatters>  /etc/init.d/vsftpd restart  probably
[02:59] <llutz> eddjc3: ps -e
[03:00] <tatters> im a noob   soooo only little help
[03:01] <eddjc3> thanks llutz
[03:01] <eddjc3> no - it's not already running
[03:03] <llutz> eddjc3: you try vstfpd via xinetd?
[03:04] <tatters> I set up unison and ssh to try to sync my laptop and desktop which both have kofice installed,finding it difficult to know what to filter out and what to include, anyone synca a laptop n desktop?
[03:06] <llutz> tatters: i only sync documents etc. not configs. they are in an own directory-tree, so it's easy to sync them
[03:06] <tatters> I actually wouuld have thought this would be a common scenario contacts,scheules,e-mail etc but seems its not
[03:07] <eddjc3> tatters: that one worked thanks!
[03:07] <eddjc3> llutz: how do you do that?
[03:07] <BluesKaj> Howdy All
[03:07] <tatters> hey my first triumph happy to have        helped
[03:07] <llutz> eddjc3: i'm using rsnyc
[03:09] <eddjc3> llutz:eh? I mean how do you use vsftpd with xinetd?
[03:09] <llutz> eddjc3: that was only a question, but if you don't know how, you don't use it :)
[03:10] <eddjc3> fair enough:-)
[03:10] <eddjc3> What would be the benefit?
[03:11] <llutz> eddjc3: it's just a different way to handle services and maybe a source of your error-message
[03:12] <eddjc3> I see
[03:14] <mordeto> witam
[03:14] <mordeto> jest ktos kto sie zna na linuxie bardzo dobrze??
[03:14] <mordeto> i moze mi pomuc??
[03:14] <llutz> !pl | mordeto
[03:15] <ubotu> mordeto: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[03:15] <mordeto> thx llutz :)
[03:16] <StoneNewt> I'm going insane, I remember there's a whole section dealing with the use of  restrictedformats specifically for kubuntu/kde rather than ubuntu/gnome but I'll be damned ifI can find it! Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[03:23] <tom_> hi all, ive got a few questions about usb automounting
[03:23] <tom_> 1st- how do i get a luks encrypted usb stick to automount?
[03:26] <tom_> ??
[03:31] <tom_> 2nd, how can i get it to run a command when it is mounted?
[03:33] <StoneNewt> !restricted
[03:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:34] <StoneNewt> where the hell are the kubuntu specific instructionscause those things don't work :S
[03:37] <eddjc3> hey all - anyonw know where apache's log files are kept?
[03:38] <drif> eddjc3: check /var/log/apache
[03:39] <BluesKaj> StoneNewt, accessing restricted formats is done by editing the sources.list and adding the repositories containing the restricted format pkgs ...it's best done at source-o-matic :http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[03:40] <eddjc3> ahah - thanks drif!
[03:41] <drif> eddjc3: np
[03:42] <owner> Ho =)
[03:42] <owner> Ho*
[03:42] <owner> Hi*
[03:42] <khaije1> what the kde developers channel?
[03:42] <Jawalt> I have a quick question....How do I edit .list files?
[03:43] <Jawalt> Im trying to install java ,but I need to add entries to a .list file to apt-get it
[03:43] <emilsedgh_> #kde-devel #kde4-devel, khaije1
[03:43] <khaije1> thx emilsedgh_
[03:43] <khaije1> Jawalt: are you talking about adding repo's to your source.list file?
[03:43] <Jawalt> Ya
[03:43] <BluesKaj> Jawalt, which .list file ?
[03:44] <Jawalt> source
[03:44] <khaije1> Jawalt: it's a normal text file so you can use whatever you prefer, are you aware of your options?
[03:44] <BluesKaj> altkdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:44] <Jawalt> Atm Im trying to use Kate ,but it opens as an empty file
[03:45] <BluesKaj> alt+f2
[03:45] <Jawalt> Ahh I got it
[03:45] <Jawalt> Opened from terminal instead of GUI
[03:46] <khaije1> Jawalt: if you're using adept you can edit your source.list file from in there also
[03:46] <khaije1> only thing is it's an important file, so pay attention to detail when you work with it
[03:48] <BluesKaj> one can always re-edit sources.list file , rather than trying to foll with adept which can be abit clunky
[03:49] <Jawalt> It says I cant save sources.list
[03:51] <BluesKaj> Jawalt, you have to use' kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list 'command to open it , it asks for your password then you can save changes
[03:51] <Jawalt> Oh thanks
[03:51] <BluesKaj> alt+F2 , kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:53] <bjwebb> hi
[03:53] <Jawalt> Anyone know a good guide on installing java that one didn't work
[03:54] <j1solutions> helllo all
[03:55] <drif> Jawalt: try 'sudo update-alternatives --configure java' and set correct version
[03:55] <j1solutions> comment: I used kubuntu as my main desktop system about 2 years ago, it looks much better now.  I bought a Vista box about 6 months ago, i'm thinking to wipe vista and install kubuntu
[03:55] <drif> Jawalt: also javac if you need to compile
[03:56] <bjwebb> can i do anything with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key other than reboot more nicely?
[03:57] <Jawalt> Drif the first command did not work
[03:57] <Jawalt> It didn't recognize --configure java
[03:57] <j1solutions> vista is horrid
[03:57] <drif> Jawalt: sorry --config
[03:58] <bomber> j1solutions, is that surprising... another fine microsoft release
[03:59] <j1solutions> it is, honestly.  I'm a big supporter of FOSS, but WindowsXP has become a mature product on the desktop
[03:59] <j1solutions> and worked just fine for me
[03:59] <Jawalt> I liked 98 ,and XP microsoft versions ,but lately everything they do is crap
[03:59] <j1solutions> vista was a huge step backwards
[04:00] <j1solutions> performance is even horrid
[04:00] <j1solutions> i'm MS trained and certified-  no more of that
[04:00] <j1solutions> vista is the first step to the long slide down for MS
[04:00] <j1solutions> so i guess that is a good thing
[04:01] <Jawalt> That didnt do much drif
[04:01] <bomber> no doubt
[04:02] <Jawalt> Drif that brought up 2 selections neither of which worked
[04:02] <drif> Jawalt: did it give you alternatives to choose from?
[04:02] <drif> Jawalt: and furthermore, you never explained 'how' your java isn't working..
[04:02] <Jawalt> Yes 2
[04:02] <Jawalt> Its just not working it says its uninstaleld after the installation
[04:03] <bjwebb> Jawalt: java needs you to agree to something iirc
[04:03] <Jawalt> Hmm?
[04:03] <bjwebb> or maybe that was the old version
[04:04] <Jawalt> I wish this was as simple as firefox install
[04:04] <Jawalt> i just 'apt-get firefox' or similar ,and it got it
[04:05] <bjwebb> if my graphics freeze, is there anything i can do with "Magic SysRq key" other than a nice reboot?
[04:05] <BluesKaj> Jawalt, after editing the sources lis and adding repositories that contain the packages , you do a 'sudo apt-get update in the konsole , then you can use adept or apt to install the java pkg
[04:05] <Jawalt> Wahh?
[04:05] <BluesKaj> yes the sources.list is not the file that contains the pkgs
[04:06] <BluesKaj> it only has the addresses to the repositories that contain the pkges
[04:06] <Jawalt> Ahh I don't think the repositories I got work
[04:06] <BluesKaj> e you ehow did you try to install java
[04:06] <BluesKaj> err
[04:07] <Jawalt> I went to the java website downloaded and followed the instructions
[04:09] <Jawalt> Blueskaj?
[04:09] <tom_> howcan i get kde to run a command whenever i insert my usb stick?
[04:10] <khaije1> when i try to './configure' kmymoney2 to build from source, it says it can't find the kde headers...  on ubuntu how do i get this?
[04:11] <BluesKaj> well, what's the state of your java apps then ?
[04:11] <Jawalt> I don't know how do i tell?
[04:12] <Jawalt> Sorry Im a total nub to Linux
[04:12] <BluesKaj> relogin and open adept , then enter java , to see which versions are installed
[04:12] <BluesKaj> enter java in the searchbox
[04:12] <llutz> khaije1:  you need kde-devel
[04:13] <khaije1> llutz: this tell's me i have about 8 different unmet dependencies...
[04:14] <Jawalt> Ok well it says Java GJC compat dec for one
[04:14] <llutz> khaije1: then you will have to install them too
[04:14] <Jawalt> and java gjc compat for another
[04:14] <Jawalt> brb
[04:16] <shok> hello all..i have a problem..im trying to install something and in the log file i get that the c compiler cannot create executable files..how can i fix this?
[04:16] <Jawalt> Was ending the current session enough or shoukd I reboot?
[04:16] <llutz> shok: install build-essential
[04:16] <shok> tanks llutz
[04:17] <SlimG> How do I find out how much free space I have left the gui way? (instead of: df -h)
[04:17] <Jawalt> Blueskaj
[04:17] <emilsedgh> SlimG: right click on your partition from /media and go ro ptoperties->Meta Info
[04:18] <BluesKaj> here
[04:18] <Jawalt> I ended the current session and relogged
[04:19] <SlimG> emilsedgh: Isn't there a quicker/"more integrated" way to do it?
[04:19] <llutz> SlimG: df -h :)
[04:19] <emilsedgh> SlimG: there are a few programs, I think the namw kdiskfree and kwikdisk is something like this, let me find
[04:19] <BluesKaj> Jawalt, open adept, and type java in the searchbar..it will generate a list and show what java related pkgs are installed , particularly look for java-common and j2re1.4
[04:20] <emilsedgh> SlimG: install kdf from adept
[04:20] <Jawalt> Java common appeared ,but not j2re1.4
[04:20] <SlimG> emilsedgh: I've used the app you speak of, but I don't want to start a separate app just to tell me how much diskspace I have left
[04:21] <gdzhljw> 
[04:21] <BluesKaj> Jawalt, find j2re1.4 and  choose it to install , then click on apply
[04:21] <Jucato> !cn | gdzhljw
[04:21] <ubotu> gdzhljw: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[04:21] <gdzhljw> 
[04:21] <llutz> SlimG: i guess this is a "historical" Problem. user don't need to know that, disk-quotas etc. are admins job
[04:22] <emilsedgh> SlimG: so use the first method!
[04:22] <giovanni> salve
[04:22] <gdzhljw> sorry!
[04:22] <Jucato> Topic: FAQ: Free Disk Space http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3086353.0
[04:22] <unclephreak> ehhh
[04:22] <giovanni> list!
[04:22] <unclephreak>    this place again
[04:22] <khaije1> llutz: i'm guessing that the problem is that the latest version 'kdelibs4c2a' doesn't have a compatible '-dev' version
[04:22] <Jucato> khaije1: kdelibs-dev
[04:23] <LeeJunFan> wow, that sucks. I upgraded to gutsy and apparently debmirror is broke and wiped out my mirror of feisty and gutsy.
[04:23] <Jawalt> BluesKaj its not there
[04:23] <kalorin`> why does USB copies from a flash reader eat like 200% of my CPU ?
[04:24] <kalorin`> lame
[04:24] <lnx> i have installed some Gstream codecs , and now i can see MMS only in konq ( work well ) but in firefox i see grey screen what i can do ?
[04:24] <kalorin`> on a dual core system even!
[04:24] <khaije1> Jucato: no love there, it tells me to install kdelibs4-dev instead, which is fine but then that one depends on a older version of kdelibs4c2a than what i have
[04:25] <unclephreak> you know the most stable kubuntu ive ever installed was to install ubuntu on my computer then the kde window manager cos i dont think they have the kubuntu package as set as they want it. and it runs faster
[04:25] <BluesKaj> Jawalt, close adept and open the konsole , in the konsole type , sudo apt-get update
[04:25] <eddjc3> hey all - what's a good command line for renaming all files that have .JPG on the end to .jpg?
[04:25] <Jucato> khaije1: this is on feisty?
[04:25] <khaije1> ya
[04:25] <Jawalt> BluesKaj maybe the places I got for the downloads are out of date or soemthing?
[04:25] <Jucato> khaije1: what version of KDE?
[04:26] <unclephreak> 704
[04:26] <BluesKaj> Jawalt, the last command i just gave you will update for you
[04:26] <Jawalt> Ok done
[04:26] <unclephreak> ubuntu rocks if you dont like the user friendly stuff
[04:27] <kalorin`> OMG you ain't got slow and CPU hog like copying via usb on this system
[04:27] <kalorin`> no idea why
[04:27] <unclephreak> kde is great for geting used to the linux/unix interface
[04:27] <eddjc3> hey all - what's a good command line for renaming all files that have .JPG on the end to .jpg?
[04:27] <BluesKaj> Jawalt, we need to open your sources.list ... alt+f2 , then type, kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:28] <Jucato> khaije1: can you please use pastebin to show the output of these commands (please use pastebin): "apt-cache policy kdelibs4c2a" and "apt-cache policy kdelibs4-dev"
[04:28] <BluesKaj> Jawalt, copy and paste is easier than typing :)
[04:28] <eddjc3> hey all - what's a good command line for renaming all files that have .JPG on the end to .jpg?
[04:28] <Jucato> !patience | eddjc3
[04:28] <ubotu> eddjc3: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:29] <unclephreak> use the window manager
[04:29] <Jawalt> Got it BluesKaj
[04:29] <unclephreak> use dolphin
[04:29] <Jucato> eddjc3: if you're interested in a GUI app for that, you can use krename
[04:29] <eddjc3> sorry abou that - I thought my Konversation had seazed up - I reposted on the thought that it didn't send first time
[04:29] <llutz> eddjc3: rename 'y/A-Z/a-z/' *.JPG
[04:29] <lnx> why i cant see MMS in firefox ? ( its wmv movie and i can see it in konq ) ?
[04:29] <kalorin`> for x in `find . -name *.JPG`; do mv ${x} ${x/.JPG/.jpg}; done
[04:29] <kalorin`> so long as youd on'th ave files with spaces in the names
[04:29] <kalorin`> then it gets moret ricky
[04:29] <Jucato> unclephreak: he did specify command line
[04:30] <eddjc3> ok cool thanks:-)
[04:30] <kalorin`> he just said he wanted the extnesions uppered
[04:30] <kalorin`> :)
[04:30] <BluesKaj> ok Jawalt , now scroll down the sources list till you fins a # in front of repos begiining with 'deb'..take out the #
[04:31] <unclephreak> i had it specified on my business card that i dont work well with windows systems
[04:31] <Jucato> kalorin`: yes. but at least krename will deal with spaces in the filename...
[04:31] <BluesKaj> Jawalt, there will prolly be just 2 or 3
[04:31] <Jawalt> Theres lots that begind with deb
[04:32] <BluesKaj> yes Jawalt , but I mean the one's with #sign
[04:32] <ariane> hi. i'm having some problems booting kubuntu. i boot my computer, i see the grub thing, i choose kubuntu, it starts loading and then i get this error message " Buffer I/O error on device hda1, logical block and a couple of numbers. after, it tells me "/dev/hda1 contains a file system with errors, check forced and it gives me the same buffer thing again. does anyone know how to fix this and could help me please?
[04:32] <Jucato> Jawalt: are you on Kubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn?
[04:32] <Jawalt> No Im on LTS for some reason the 7.04 didn't feel like working
[04:32] <BluesKaj> # prevents the rpository from being used ...it's called commenting out
[04:33] <Jucato> oh
[04:33] <unclephreak> unix scripting language
[04:33] <BluesKaj> Jucato, any suggestions would be welcome :)
[04:34] <Jawalt> Ok got it
[04:34] <Jawalt> I uncommented them
[04:34] <Jucato> I don't even know what the problem is... but I'm guessing it has to do with Java and multiverse? :)
[04:34] <BluesKaj> cool , now save the file close it
[04:34] <unclephreak> 32+
[04:34] <Jawalt> Done
[04:34] <BluesKaj> Jucato, java
[04:35] <Jawalt> Blues now what?
[04:36] <Jucato> BluesKaj: wouldn't the package name be sun-java-something?
[04:36] <BluesKaj> ok, Jawalt now open the console again and do the, sudo apt-get update , again
[04:37] <BluesKaj> Jucato, I've found that java common and j2re1.4 are sufficient to make java work
[04:37] <Jucato> according to packages.ubuntu.com, Dapper has sun-java5
[04:38] <Jawalt> I play an online game (not runescape) requiring java
[04:38] <BluesKaj> well, one can always install sun-java5 or 6 depending on the distro
[04:38] <Jucato> hm.. blackdown java? I'm not sure that would work...
[04:38] <BluesKaj> Jawalt, ok did you sudo apt-get update in the konsole ?
[04:39] <Jawalt> Ya and Im in adept now
[04:40] <BluesKaj> which kubuntu distro are on , Jawalt ?
[04:40] <Jawalt> 6.04 I think
[04:40] <Jucato> [22:32]  <Jawalt> No Im on LTS for some reason the 7.04 didn't feel like working
[04:40] <bjwebb> Jawalt: 6.06 :D
[04:40] <Jucato> 6.06(.1)
[04:40] <combinio> !ati
[04:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:41] <BluesKaj> Jawalt, in the konsole type, lsb_release -a
[04:43] <Jawalt> 6.06.1 Im installing Jr2e now
[04:45] <mordeto> #ubuntu-pl
[04:45] <xst> After an upgrade two days ago I can no longer boot any kernel. Grub returns "Error 15: File not found". Pretty critical What to do?
[04:46] <ksivaji> !Motif
[04:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about motif - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:46] <Jawalt> I think I got the same thing the other day I fixed it by popping in the install cd and pressing boot form first harddisk
[04:46] <lnx> why i cant see MMS in firefox ? ( its wmv movie and i can see it in konq ) ?
[04:46] <ksivaji> !Xfree86
[04:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xfree86 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:49] <Jawalt> Adept refuses to start...
[04:50] <bjwebb> dpkg lock?
[04:50] <Jucato> !adeptfix
[04:50] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[04:52] <Jawalt> Adept will not start whatsoever
[04:52] <Jawalt> Ill end the session and log back in and try
[04:52] <Jucato> !adeptfix | Jawalt
[04:52] <ubotu> Jawalt: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[04:53] <Jawalt> I did...
[04:53] <Jucato> what error messages are you getting when you try to start it from Konsole?
[04:54] <combinio> !codecs
[04:54] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:55] <Jawalt> Ahh ok I can boot through console
[04:55] <combinio> how can i install package manager ?
[04:56] <combinio> ... called adept
[04:56] <Jucato> combinio: you don't need to.  it's already installed.
[04:56] <combinio> ( i mean adept-manager :D )
[04:56] <combinio> Jucato: but i removed it :] 
[04:56] <Jucato> O.o
[04:56] <Jucato> sudo apt-get install adept
[04:56] <combinio> some man adviced me to do that and update my system manually :D
[04:56] <combinio> Jucato: thx
[04:57] <combinio> Jucato: do u use automatix ? ;>
[04:58] <Jucato> !automatix
[04:58] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[04:58] <j1solutions> anyone know how to enable 3d in kubuntu on an ATI equipped laptop?
[04:58] <Jucato> !ati | j1solutions
[04:58] <ubotu> j1solutions: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:58] <j1solutions> !ati
[04:58] <Jawalt> Does that thing know everything?
[04:58] <Jucato> !ubotu
[04:58] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:59] <combinio> Jucato: u didn't understand my question... do u use automatix ? ;P
[04:59] <Jucato> combinio: that's my answer for you :)
[04:59] <Jucato> the answer is implied :)
[04:59] <combinio> Jucato: so it means u don't ? [;
[04:59] <j1solutions> thanks ubtou
[04:59] <Jucato> !thanks | j1solutions
[04:59] <ubotu> j1solutions: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[05:00] <Jucato> combinio: I don't.
[05:00] <combinio> Jucato: thanks the Lord then! cuz i used it all the day since today... and i can't handle with some things.. e.g. how to install archive tools like autom.'s ??
[05:01] <Jucato> archive tools?
[05:01] <BluesKaj> Jawalt, can you open adept ?
[05:01] <combinio> * i mean i used automatix for all my life :D
[05:01] <combinio> Jucato: yeap
[05:01] <combinio> winrar, unzip, etc. :)
[05:01] <Jawalt> Ya Blue
[05:01] <combinio> in A-matix it is veeery simple
[05:01] <Jucato> sudo apt-get install unrar rar
[05:01] <combinio> but without it... no exactly
[05:01] <Jucato> not sure about zip, I think that's already included by default
[05:01] <combinio> Jucato: oh.... as u can see... it's not everything...
[05:02] <BluesKaj> automatix isn't necessary ...it's less work but very dangerous
[05:02] <combinio> there is something more that automatix gave u...
[05:02] <blablabla> Please help me: http://tinyurl.com/2yu2te
[05:02] <combinio> and i don't remember what else should i install to have all archive tools :/
[05:02] <Jucato> combinio: next release, Automatix and EasyUbuntu will practically be obsolete with kubuntu-restricted-extras and restricted-manager-kde
[05:02] <combinio> BluesKaj: i made format today because of Automatix :] 
[05:02] <jhutchins> !info rar
[05:02] <Jucato> combinio: sudo apt-get install unrar rar zip unzip
[05:02] <ubotu> rar: Archiver for .rar files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.7b1-2 (feisty), package size 494 kB, installed size 1012 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[05:03] <BluesKaj> Jawalt, look for sun-java5 in adept and install it for your games
[05:03] <Jawalt> Java 6 is there
[05:03] <combinio> Jucato: ok, thx :)
[05:03] <BluesKaj> ok Jawalt , go for it :)
[05:03] <Jucato> BluesKaj: I had a feeling blackdown java wouldn't be enough :)
[05:03] <Jawalt> So Im installing that instead ,because I think the other week it stopped supporting 5
[05:04] <Jucato> Jawalt: once you install sun-java5 or 6, run the command "sudo update-alternatives --config java" to choose the default java that the system will use, in this case, the sun version
[05:04] <Jawalt> At first I thought it was really hard to install flash and java on linux ,but actually the solution was easy
[05:04] <BluesKaj> dunno Jucato , i didn't realize Jawalt needed java for gaming ...i don't think in terms of game requit=rements much ...guess I'm just too old :)
[05:05] <Jucato> BluesKaj: hm.. he did mention it...
[05:05] <BluesKaj> yeah , much later tho
[05:05] <Jucato> [22:38]  <Jawalt> I play an online game (not runescape) requiring java
[05:05] <Jucato> 30 minutes ago :P
[05:05] <BluesKaj> yeah
[05:05] <Jucato> anyway, really need to get some rest... or else all you guys are going to pay for my meds :P
[05:06] <BluesKaj> i have no excuses , I was in and out of the pc room a lot this morning due to some neighbour hoods stuff going on
[05:07] <BluesKaj> nite Jucato
[05:07] <j1solutions> oh well, my radeon is a 7500, not supported
[05:07] <Jawalt> Im hoping that Ive installed java correctly so the game will run.
[05:08] <BluesKaj> lets hope your graphics drivers arte up to it as well , Jawalt
[05:08] <Jawalt> Somone I know told me Im lucky I have an nvidia card they said ati are a pain for linux
[05:08] <BluesKaj> yup, true
[05:09] <BluesKaj> j1solutions, yeah , there's a problem with linux support for the radeon 7000 series cards
[05:09] <Jawalt> Adept gets an error when installing java
[05:10] <BluesKaj> Jawalt, open the details tab in adept
[05:10] <Jawalt> Is there a task manager for linux?
[05:11] <jhutchins> Jawalt: Ctrl-Esc
[05:11] <BluesKaj> Jawalt, you have to type Y to the java licence agreement
[05:12] <Jawalt> How?
[05:12] <Jawalt> Ill try to just apt-get the pack without adept
[05:12] <BluesKaj>  open the details tab in adept
[05:12] <BluesKaj> while installing java
[05:14] <BluesKaj> yup, now yer becoming a real linux user ...the commandline is usually the way to go
[05:14] <Jawalt> Ok well both dont work
[05:15] <Jawalt> Brb
[05:16] <sanuanand> Hi
[05:16] <pag> !hi | sanuanand
[05:16] <ubotu> sanuanand: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[05:17] <BluesKaj> hi sanuanand
[05:17] <sanuanand> Hi
[05:17] <sanuanand> can you help out wih my soundcard?
[05:18] <Lynoure> sanuanand: probably someone here can, if you tell them about your problem
[05:18] <sanuanand> The sound comes only from the right speaker
[05:18] <kaminix|benkyou> By testing it seems like it, but is "sudo mv LinearTransformation.nb /dev/null" really nothing but a fun way to write "rm LinearTransformation.nb"? :D
[05:19] <sanuanand> Can I perform some kind of troubleshooting?
[05:20] <lnx> why i cant see MMS in firefox ? ( its wmv movie and i can see it in konq ) ?
[05:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> kmix has a balance control you can check
[05:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> as does alsamixer
[05:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> lnx: mplayer firefox plugin's needed
[05:20] <sanuanand> let me check
[05:20] <Lynoure> sanuanand: first steps would be to unplug and replug the speakers, then verify with some other audio source that the second speaker is not broken. Because often that happens, too.
[05:21] <sanuanand> I have cross checked the spaekers. they are fine
[05:22] <sanuanand> the sound card is onboard.
[05:22] <combinio> how can i install LIBFAAD2-0 so i can gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse which require libfaad2-0 ?? :}
[05:22] <sanuanand> Motherbaord model M2NMX
[05:23] <combinio> ** how can i install LIBFAAD2-0 so i can install gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse which requires libfaad2-0 ?? :}
[05:23] <llutz> combinio: sudo aptitude install libfaad2-0
[05:23] <sanuanand> how do I open Kmix? I am new to Ubuntu
[05:23] <llutz> combinio: next step: learn to use "aptitude search"
[05:24] <owner> Well a reboot fixed the adept problem
[05:24] <combinio> llutz: thanks a lot! :) i had a problem with that ! :]  and what is different between aptitude and apt-get ? :}
[05:24] <combinio> !aptitude
[05:24] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[05:24] <lnx> Daisuke_Laptop i need to install it from firefox plugins or from adept ?
[05:24] <llutz> combinio: aptitude is the recommended tool for debian, a bit more powerfull in tracking installed packages
[05:25] <Jawalt> I try purging a broken download and it cant be done
[05:25] <Daisuke_Laptop> lnx: adept would be easiest
[05:26] <Daisuke_Laptop> although i would recommend taking llutz's advice on that, aptitude is certainly more powerful
[05:27] <lnx> Daisuke_Laptop what is the pakage name ?
[05:28] <Daisuke_Laptop> erm...
[05:29] <Daisuke_Laptop> search for firefox in adept
[05:30] <lnx> Daisuke_Laptop , i have foudn this : MPlayer-Plugin  , it is what i need ?
[05:30] <Jawalt> Adept got a broken download and I cant instakll java 6 =9
[05:31] <Jawalt> =(
[05:34] <sanuanand> Daisuke_Laptop, I have checked Kmix
[05:35] <sanuanand> The settings are correct
[05:35] <sanuanand> The intial startup sound also comes only on right speaker.
[05:36] <sanuanand> Is this something related to drivers?
[05:36] <Jawalt> !adept
[05:36] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[05:36] <Jawalt> What was that help[ fikle that guy did earlier
[05:40] <eudemus> Hi. I'm having trouble getting Kontact to synchronise with my WindowsMobile PDA. I have Opensync installed and appearing to work, just that nothign gets updated on either the PC or the PDA. Is there any special config required for the plugins, especially the KDEPIM plugin? Anyone know? Sorry if this is not the right place to ask this (I'm floundering somewhat).
[05:42] <Cyynic> g'morning
[05:43] <Flatfender> Is there anything special I am susposed to be doing to use an external hard drive? It was working ok last night, but this morning I can't get it to let me open it.
[05:45] <Cyynic> I'm trying to install a game from source, ./configure works. but make returns an error. I've looking in the forums but I can't find an answer that isn't "Install build-essential", which i've already done... can anyone help me?
[05:46] <emilsedgh> Cyynic: if ./configure is passed, look at that games forums, this should be its problem and others asked this...
[05:48] <Flatfender> hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000 Thats the error, I don't understand what would have changed to keep it from mounting.
[05:48] <Cyynic> emilsedgh: ok, i'll try that, but i've run into it before with pidgin (which i just gave up on for the time being and stuck with gaim) so i'm wonderingg if the problem is on my end
[05:48] <emilsedgh> if ./configure is passed, there shouldnt be a problem
[05:52] <Cyynic> emilsedgh: when i type 'make' in the directory, i get the error "make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop."
[05:54] <lnx> when i use mplayer for firefox plugin i get message "contect to server" and the video doesnt start until i refrash the page , what i can do ?
[06:00] <soccermike1337> Is there any way to install the newest gtk with apt-get?
[06:03] <Jawalt> I need help
[06:03] <Black_Monkey> hi, I'm running kde4 beta 2 on feisty, but plasma isn't working properly - at the bottom, I see "This object could not be created" twice where the panel should be :/
[06:03] <Jawalt> I cant apt-get it says this:
[06:03] <Jawalt> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:03] <Jawalt> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[06:05] <Black_Monkey> Jawalt: ah, you need to type a certain command, I'll just try to find it. An instance of apt-get, adept, or something crashed?
[06:05] <Jawalt> adept crashed
[06:07] <Black_Monkey> >_< konqueror keeps crashing as I try to google it
[06:07] <Black_Monkey> Jawalt: run ps x, if adept's still running, kill it
[06:08] <Jawalt> Insuffitiont Permissions
[06:09] <Black_Monkey> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:09] <Black_Monkey> that's it I think
[06:09] <pag> !aptfix | Jawalt
[06:09] <ubotu> Jawalt: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[06:10] <shanky> hi
[06:10] <shanky> I have a usb-modem
[06:10] <Black_Monkey> ah ok, well I got half of it :-P
[06:10] <Aondo> Black_Monkey  i've got the same thing with my plasma :P not sure why
[06:10] <Jawalt> XD
[06:10] <shanky> but when I plug it in, I can't see any device using lsusb
[06:11] <Black_Monkey> Aondo: yeah... would a "killall plasma" be ok to do, and run the kde3 kicker, or is plasma needed?
[06:11] <Black_Monkey> I'm not using any widgets
[06:11] <Flatfender> Is there a program that I have to have installed that I may have deleted that would let me use an external harddrive?
[06:11] <b0uncer> Flatfender: no, except for your kernel, or "mount" command?
[06:11] <Aondo> Black_Monkey  well, plasma is part of the fun
[06:11] <Aondo> hehe
[06:11] <shanky> in /var/log/messages I get a lot of messages like this: usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 35
[06:12] <Black_Monkey> Aondo: but I'm not really getting any use out of it, as the panels aren't working...
[06:12] <Flatfender> hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000 It gives me that error, It didn't last night
[06:12] <Aondo> Black_Monkey  ye, well you can start kde4 apps without plasma running
[06:13] <Black_Monkey> Aondo: does plasma do anything other than the panels and widgets?
[06:13] <Aondo> not that i can think of
[06:15] <Jawalt> Hmm I get this while trying to install
[06:15] <Jawalt> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:15] <Jawalt>   sun-java5-jre: Depends: sun-java5-bin (= 1.5.0-06-1) but it is not going to be installed or
[06:15] <Jawalt>                           ia32-sun-java5-bin (= 1.5.0-06-1) but it is not installable
[06:15] <Jawalt>   sun-java6-jre: Depends: sun-java6-bin (= 6-00-0ubuntu1~dapper1) but it is not going to be installed or
[06:15] <Jawalt>                           ia32-sun-java6-bin (= 6-00-0ubuntu1~dapper1) but it is not installable
[06:15] <Jawalt> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[06:15] <Jawalt> owner@ubuntu:~$
[06:17] <pag> Jawalt, do you have backports enabled?
[06:17] <Black_Monkey> does anyone know how I can get the kde4 versions of kopete and konversation? I installed kde4network, but they're not there...
[06:17] <ahuillet> hello - I am the project leader of freedroidRPG, an isometric 3D RPG
[06:17] <Jawalt> What are backports?
[06:17] <b0uncer> programs from newer releases
[06:17] <infbliss> my external hard disk is recognized in ubuntu. But the capacity is shown as 30 GB while the HDD is 120 GB HDD
[06:17] <ahuillet> I wondered if anyone would be interested in packaging fdRPG for kubuntu
[06:18] <infbliss> can someone help me
[06:18] <b0uncer> infbliss: could it be that your machine's IDE connector is too old?
[06:18] <b0uncer> it's possible that unless you have an EIDE connector, only about 30 gigs are recognized
[06:18] <infbliss> no it is a USB disk
[06:18] <b0uncer> ok then
[06:19] <ahuillet> we've been included in many major distros - mandriva, gentoo, debian notably, and think it would be interesting to be in ubuntu as well
[06:19] <b0uncer> infbliss: what filesystem does it have?
[06:19] <b0uncer> I just bought a 500*10^9t disk, usb connected, and it's working just fine
[06:20] <infbliss> i dont even know. most probably ntfs. seagate 160 GB
[06:20] <b0uncer> I mean 500*10^9 bytes, sorry..equals to 465 gigabytes or so
[06:20] <stepz_> 500*10^9 bytes is 500 gigabytes
[06:20] <b0uncer> cause it's also possible there's a restriction on the partition size for the filesystem..but that would nowadays seem odd
[06:21] <b0uncer> stepz_: no it's not..500*10^9 bytes is 465 gigabytes, because 1k=1024b
[06:21] <b0uncer> 1024B
[06:21] <infbliss> is there a way i can repartition it. The problem is even windows does not recognize it
[06:21] <stepz_> no kilo is 1000
[06:21] <stepz_> kibi is 1024
[06:21] <b0uncer> no, kilo is 1024 in computers
[06:21] <b0uncer> I'm talking about computer kilobytes, not SI-kilos
[06:21] <infbliss> gparted shows the size as 35 Gb
[06:21] <b0uncer> like we all do when talking about computer disk sizes :)
[06:21] <b0uncer> there's no sense in talking about SI-kilos with disk spaces
[06:22] <stepz_> why not?
[06:22] <hsatera> how do i see previous conversations with xchat?
[06:22] <b0uncer> because of the disk geometries and binary calculations
[06:22] <b0uncer> computers calculate in binaries which results in having 1k=1024B rather than 1000B
[06:22] <stepz_> hdd sizes are given in SI units
[06:22] <b0uncer> the physical sizes matter, not the commercial ones
[06:22] <b0uncer> to me at least
[06:22] <stepz_> bandwidth is calculated in SI units and so on
[06:22] <b0uncer> I don't like boasting I'm having a 500G disk when it's really 465
[06:23] <Kein> My headphones aren't working on Feisty...
[06:23] <b0uncer> that's the whole problem; marketing makes things look bigger than they are, and just cause problems when you want to know how something really works, fits, goes
[06:23] <Biovore> Kein: laptop?
[06:23] <stepz_> it's not a marketing problem, it's a problem of using units correctly
[06:23] <infbliss> b0uncer: is there any other way
[06:23] <stepz_> calling 1024 a kilo is a bad bad habit
[06:23] <b0uncer> it was ok back in the days when harddisks were 20MB..nowadays the difference between 1000 and 1024 is so big that people should really forget about the 1000-calculations
[06:24] <Kein> yes
[06:24] <b0uncer> stepz_: talking about kibi is bad habit; we should stick to simple terms, or we'll end up having millions of terms for the same matter with slight changes
[06:24] <Kein> It was working yesterday, but when I booted into Kubuntu today the options in KMix had changed.
[06:24] <b0uncer> nobody needs to think 1k would be 1000B, so it's useless
[06:25] <stepz_> I think most of the time 1kB = 1000B is quite natural and useful
[06:25] <stepz_> only programmers need to know what the those binary sizes are
[06:25] <b0uncer> the only people I know who talk about kibis are the nerds at schools...everybody who knows anything about computers does understand that 1k stands for 1024B and that's it, no need to talk about mysterious kibis
[06:25] <Biovore> Kein: probably screwed then.. It because your sound card uses a signal from the HP jack to switch where it sends the sound probably.  Some of the sound drivers don't look for it.. :-(
[06:25] <Kein> ...God dammit.
[06:25] <Kein> >_<
[06:26] <jhutchins> Kein: No, I won't.
[06:26] <Biovore> Kein: Or there probably some magic voodoo you have to pass to the module it's self to make it works..
[06:26] <stepz_> b0uncer: so tell me, how much time does it take to transfer 1 megabyte over a 1 megabit network connection?
[06:26] <b0uncer> stepz_: that's the whole problem: I wouldn't have to think about that if there were no people like you who were asking it because they want to stick to the base 10 calculations :)
[06:27] <jhutchins> stepz_: theoretically, ~1,000 seconds, depending on the exact units, and not allowing for overhead.
[06:27] <Flatfender> Does anyone have any insight as to why my external drive doesn't allow me to access it? I'm at a total loss. I have the permissions set so I can use it. I can see the drive is connected but can't access it
[06:27] <josephdecock> is incremental search (find as you type) available in konqueror?
[06:28] <jhutchins> Flatfender: It's formatted for Windows and the system is mounting it root-only.
[06:28] <Flatfender> It worked before. Is there a way I can fix that?
[06:29] <jhutchins> Flatfender: modify fstab so that it mounts rw/all or rw/<user>
[06:29] <jhutchins> !floppy
[06:29] <ubotu> To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[06:29] <jhutchins> see also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[06:29] <stepz_> jhutchins: 1000 seconds is completely wrong
[06:30] <stepz_> possible answers are 8 seconds and ~8.4 seconds
[06:30] <jhutchins> stepz_: If you know the answer why are you bothering to ask?  Just to show off?
[06:31] <stepz_> to show that confusing binary and decimal prefixes has consequences
[06:31] <Flatfender> jhutchins, how exactly do I modify it to do that? I'm reasonably new to linux
[06:31] <jhutchins> Flatfender: most use something like kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[06:31] <jhutchins> kate being a GUI text editor
[06:32] <llutz> stepz_: bulls...t, your question was targeting the difference between bit and byte
[06:32] <mrmagoo_> italiano
[06:33] <stepz_> no it wasn't, it was targeting the fact that bandwidth is almost always measured in decimal prefixes, and people like to measure disk space in binary prefixes
[06:33] <mrmagoo_> how to control error on kubuntu boot?
[06:33] <Flatfender> Jhutchins: I know how to get into the file to edit it from the console but my question is what to add to fix my problems. Last time I started screwing around in one of the files it crashed my system pretty good
[06:34] <jhutchins> Flatfender: Only change the line for the external drive.  Comment it out, copy it, make changes according to the URL's above
[06:35] <stepz_> it's a counter rant to those who rant about marketing specifying hard drive sizes in real standardised units supposedly to make drives look larger
[06:35] <x-demon> Please help me
[06:35] <Flatfender> Jhutchins, I don't even see the external drive listed there
[06:35] <x-demon> I cant install it
[06:36] <x-demon> Kubuntu
[06:36] <x-demon> I make all installation steps
[06:36] <jhutchins> Flatfender: Ah, well, we may have a more basic problem then.  You'll need to look at the end of dmesg or /var/log/messages just after connecting the drive and see what's going on.
[06:36] <xp_killer> how to add people so they can view tru my webcam on kotepe
[06:36] <xp_killer> ?
[06:37] <x-demon> But after clicking 'reboot' i got blinking screen
[06:37] <x-demon> What i must do
[06:37] <Biovore> x-demon: It does take a bit for the reboot to happen....
[06:38] <x-demon> How long
[06:39] <Biovore> Well if you can't see the console after kde dies.. (could just be a graphics card glitch) It could take 2 mins depending on your machine..
[06:39] <x-demon> No
[06:39] <x-demon> I try to shutdown livecd
[06:39] <x-demon> After installing it on hdd
[06:40] <x-demon> And then reboot
[06:40] <Flatfender> Jhutchins: it says: sd 9:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sda then it is followed by sd 9:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
[06:40] <x-demon> Or i can shutdown it via reset? :)
[06:41] <Minnozz> Hi, what is the difference between the generic headers and the 386 headers?
[06:41] <Biovore> x-demon: That might work.. Depending if grub is installed already..  Might complain when you boot that the disk needs to be checked..
[06:41] <jhutchins> Flatfender: More info.  What's it doing with it?
[06:42] <x-demon> Oh
[06:42] <x-demon> It can be disk check?
[06:42] <Biovore> well when you boot, ubuntu should see the disk in a unclean state and start a fschk automaticly..
[06:42] <Flatfender> http://pastebin.com/mf38fa6c Nothing that looks abnormal to me jhutchins
[06:43] <jhutchins> x-demon: You can force a disk check with shutdown -F -r now
[06:44] <x-demon> It livecd
[06:45] <x-demon> I install kubuntu from livecd
[06:45] <jhutchins> Flatfender: I would look at that url then - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[06:45] <x-demon> It ask me for reboot
[06:45] <x-demon> I confirm
[06:45] <x-demon> And it doesnt reboot
[06:46] <x-demon> I got blinking screen with kubuntu logo
[06:47] <x-demon> What i must do?
[06:47] <bjwebb> what packages (on ubuntu) do i need to compile a program that whats kde dev files?
[06:47] <Minnozz> could anyone tell me the difference between the generic linux headers and the 386 headers?
[06:48] <x-demon> Generic works on all architectures i think
[06:48] <deviance> How stable is 7.10?
[06:48] <Biovore> x-demon: If it shutting down, you should get a screen with the kubuntu logo on it, and the bar the should move slowly..
[06:48] <x-demon> It not move
[06:49] <Biovore> x-demon: what system you got?
[06:49] <Flatfender> jhutchins, thanks a million, that was the problem.
[06:49] <x-demon> Kubuntu 7.04 with shipit
[06:50] <jhutchins> Flatfender: Great!  Glad to help!
[06:52] <lnx> i change my keyboard layout from global to application and its auto return to global when i close kcontrol what i can do ?
[06:52] <soc> hi
[06:52] <soc> is there fix for these plasma errors in gutsy?
[06:53] <Jawalt> How do I run a .run file?
[06:54] <soc> Jawalt: make it executable
[06:54] <soc> and them from the terminal ./foobar.run
[06:54] <soc> ^then
[06:55] <Flatfender> Is there a package that allows me to play wma files?
[06:56] <soc> install the ffmpeg packages ...
[06:56] <ksivaji> !wma
[06:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:56] <soc> if your using gnome: install the gstreamer packages too
[06:56] <soc> i your using kde install the libxine packages
[06:56] <ubuntu> I have ubuntu fesity fawn.  My system is hanging on bootup. It hangs after "Setting up preliminary keymap".
[06:59] <tzanger> morning... what is the package kcdrecord needs to convert mp3s to audio cds
[06:59] <tzanger> er k3b rather
[07:00] <llutz> tzanger: aptitude search k3b mp3, install what it gives you
[07:01] <Cannoli> what driver should i use for an ati card?
[07:01] <Cannoli> cause the one i have right now is messing up my graphics
[07:01] <Cannoli> !ati
[07:01] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:02] <llutz> tzanger:    libk3b2-mp3
[07:06] <Cannoli> my display is completley messed up
[07:06] <Cannoli> can someone help me please?
[07:07] <Cannoli> if u want i can takea  screenie of it and send it to anyone willing to help
[07:08] <BluesKaj> Cannoli, messed up in what manner ..resolution or ?
[07:08] <Cannoli> here i'll send u a screenie
[07:09] <Cannoli> http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e331/TMD-Cannoli/snapshot4.jpghttp://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e331/TMD-Cannoli/snapshot4.jpgv
[07:09] <Cannoli> shoot
[07:09] <Cannoli> srry
[07:09] <Cannoli> here i just uploaded it
[07:09] <Cannoli> http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e331/TMD-Cannoli/snapshot4.jpg
[07:09] <arash> hmmm.... this beryl seem to badly **** up my windows, so there are no 'close/minimize/maximize' buttons. ANy ideas?
[07:09] <hydrogen> !xeffects
[07:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xeffects - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:10] <hydrogen> !compiz
[07:10] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:11] <Cannoli> any ideas?
[07:11] <arash> How do I turn beryl off ? It starts every time session starts, so I can't just restart X
[07:12] <Cannoli> ok so my konversation screen is gone
[07:12] <Cannoli> i cant see wht anyone types
[07:12] <Cannoli> can you please om me if you can help
[07:13] <BluesKaj> Cannoli, seems you need to reconfig the panel
[07:14] <combinio> !gksu
[07:14] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application>  See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo for more info
[07:14] <Black_Monkey> does anyone know how I can get the kde4 version of kopete for feisty?
[07:14] <Cannoli> oh god
[07:14] <Cannoli> i cant see anything
[07:15] <Cannoli> :(
[07:19] <jussi01> Black_Monkey: you could install kde4...
[07:19] <Jawalt> How do I Set the version of java Im using?
[07:19] <Black_Monkey> jussi01: I have, installed beta2
[07:19] <llutz> Jawalt:  sudo update-alternatives --config java
[07:19] <Black_Monkey> but it doesn't include a new version of kopete, even with kde4network
[07:19] <jussi01> Black_Monkey: ok, if its not included in that, go grab yourself the surce and compile it...
[07:19] <Cannoli> k
[07:19] <Cannoli> i have no idea what to do
[07:20] <Cannoli> :(
[07:20] <Black_Monkey> jussi01: kk, was just wondering if there were debs around...
[07:20] <Cannoli> my kubuntu display is completley messed up
[07:20] <jussi01> Black_Monkey: I havent seen any, but then again i havent been looking
[07:21] <jussi01> Black_Monkey: have you looked on getadeb?
[07:21] <Black_Monkey> jussi01: hm, no, never heard of it. I'll look, thanks
[07:21] <BluesKaj> Cannoli, right click on the panel , choose configure panel
[07:22] <Cannoli> k then
[07:22] <Cannoli> ?
[07:23] <llutz> !ati | Cannoli
[07:23] <ubotu> Cannoli: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:23] <Cannoli> i did that
[07:24] <llutz> Cannoli: are you using beryl/compiz-fusion?
[07:24] <BluesKaj> Cannoli, sorry i just use the default settings  so i don 't know how to fix it
[07:24] <Cannoli> no llutz
[07:24] <Cannoli> kk BluesKaj
[07:24] <Cannoli> thanx anywayz
[07:24] <BluesKaj> llutz  prolly knows
[07:24] <Cannoli> http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e331/TMD-Cannoli/snapshot4.jpg
[07:24] <Cannoli> thts wht my screen looks like
[07:26] <newsense>  !hi | xp_killer
[07:26] <ubotu> xp_killer: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[07:26] <BluesKaj> xp_killer, i liked it better when you were known as garfield :)
[07:27] <dudeicles> lol BluesKaj, garfield was a nicer name. :P
[07:28] <BluesKaj> yeah, we don't hate XP , we just don't use it ....much :)
[07:28] <dudeicles> hate is a harsh word. I prefer dis-like
[07:28] <dudeicles> or "could live without"
[07:28] <dudeicles> from this weeks testing that is.
[07:29] <BluesKaj> or tolerate when needed
[07:29] <dudeicles> lol right
[07:29] <dudeicles> I like it alright, but it's expensive if you want to stay up to date on it's builds
[07:29] <BluesKaj> cuz i do need it , while linux works on a better scanner application
[07:30] <BluesKaj> kooka and sane aren't very good I'm afreaid
[07:32] <BluesKaj> <---building a family album from old pics inherited from the old folks
[07:33] <arash> !me |BluesKaj
[07:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about me - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:33] <Jawalt> Ahh I fixed java
[07:33] <Jawalt> I had to install the bin before the jre
[07:33] <Cannoli> how would i "Open the restricted drivers manager included in 7.04 "System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager""
[07:33] <BluesKaj> kooka and sane don't do a good job on contrast and brightness
[07:33] <Cannoli> where is system>administration>restricred drivers manager?
[07:33] <arash> Cannoli , are you using Kubuntu or Ubuntu?
[07:33] <Cannoli> kubuntu
[07:36] <Cannoli> i dont see a system>administration :(
[07:37] <Cannoli> nvm
[07:37] <Cannoli> got it
[07:37] <Cannoli> :)
[07:38] <vistakiller> this tool exist only in ubuntu
[07:38] <Black_Monkey> I thought the restricted devices manager wasn't coming to kubuntu until 7.10?
[07:38] <vistakiller> yes
[07:38] <Black_Monkey> kk. well Cannoli, you'll have to wait until gutsy
[07:38] <xp_killer> BluesKaj: lol
[07:39] <Cannoli> kk
[07:39] <vistakiller> xp_killer i find my brother :P
[07:39] <xp_killer> vistakiller: where was he?
[07:39] <vistakiller> you are we have the same name :)
[07:40] <newsense> how cute :P
[07:40] <Cannoli> XD
[07:40] <xp_killer> vistakiller: ok lol
[07:41] <xp_killer> hahahah
[07:41] <lnx> what is the command to run ntfs-3g config ?
[07:42] <hydrogen> ntfs-config
[07:42] <hydrogen> iirc
[07:43] <lnx> i change my keyboard layout from global to application and its auto return to global when i close kcontrol what i can do ?
[07:43] <xp_killer> inx: alt+F2  and type kdesu ntfs-config
[07:44] <vistakiller> sudo ntfs-config
[07:44] <xp_killer> no
[07:45] <xp_killer> that way cause problems
[07:45] <eudemus> 1
[07:46] <hydrogen> you can do it either way
[07:46] <hydrogen> really
[07:48] <arash> vistakiller, xp_killer, you seem pro, I was wondering, before I get killed by you (stop using Kubuntu since several things doens't work :p), I have several problems with my sound , I posted one in this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3297318#post3297318 , any ideas?
[07:48] <vistakiller> you have sound?
[07:48] <vistakiller> and what audio card you have?
[07:49] <arash> Yea, but it doenst come out form the loud speaker I want
[07:50] <xp_killer> !sound
[07:50] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:50] <arash> hmmm, SAA7134 is what 'Default Sound Card' application teels me
[07:50] <vistakiller> open terminal ang give this
[07:50] <vistakiller> asoundconf list
[07:50] <vistakiller> and paste here
[07:51] <arash> Names of available sound cards:
[07:51] <arash> SAA7134
[07:51] <arash> default
[07:51] <arash> on my parition Vista lies on, there is a folder named DRIVERS'
[07:52] <vistakiller> ok give this sudo asoundconf set-default-card SAA7134
[07:52] <Jawalt> Where can I find info on where to get ubuntu drivers?
[07:52] <vistakiller> and restart
[07:52] <vistakiller> jawalt what driver you need?
[07:52] <arash> restart X or Ubuntu?
[07:52] <vistakiller> ubuntu
[07:53] <vistakiller> is better
[07:53] <xp_killer> arash: the sound comes from the wrong place?lol so i dont tink its linux it's maybe how u set up your speakers.but u do get sound right?
[07:53] <arash> Kubuntu *
[07:53] <Jawalt> I need video drivers for a Nvidia card
[07:53] <newsense> !nvidia
[07:53] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:54] <arash> xp_killer , I have several loudspeakers, but it only comes from one, that's ok, but I want it to come from another
[07:54] <npurciful> hello, got a question is tribe 6 going to be released
[07:54] <vistakiller> give alsamixer then
[07:54] <vistakiller> in terminal
[07:55] <jhutchins> npurciful: Gutsy info in #ubuntu+1
[07:55] <arash> vistakiller, should I start alsamixer? isn't Kmix working ? (I use kubuntu)
[07:55] <vistakiller> try to use alsamixer
[07:55] <jhutchins> vistakiller: alsa mixer in console is a diagnostic tetst.
[07:56] <vistakiller> i think you can change your settings there
[07:56] <vistakiller> i am wrong?
[07:56] <arash> ok typed alsamixer, seems to be some 'GUI' in the terminal
[07:56] <Cannoli> ok so i just redid the !ati instructions
[07:57] <kkathman> alsmixer is pretty much like kmix really
[07:57] <Cannoli> still my screen is messed up
[07:57] <Cannoli> :(
[07:57] <kkathman> you can run alsamixer at the cli tho
[07:57] <vistakiller> cannonili what card you have?
[07:57] <vistakiller> :)
[07:58] <vistakiller> cannili
[07:58] <kkathman> lol
[07:59] <jhutchins> arash: What we basically needed to know was if alsamixer would run.  If it does, then the sound system is working and it's just a matter of finding what's set wrong.
[07:59] <jhutchins> Turn off SPDIF or digital output.
[07:59] <jhutchins> Try moving the ballance off center and see if that fixes it.
[07:59] <arash> well my sound is working, definetly,
[07:59] <jhutchins> arash: sorry, I thought you had no sound.
[08:00] <arash> jhutchins , :), the problem is that It doesn't come out from the loud speaker I want
[08:00] <arash> jhutchins: did you see the link i posted before, I asked at the forums and they said a solution, but I have no idea how to perform it...
[08:00] <vistakiller> arash try alsamixer or kmix
[08:01] <Cannoli> is there any way i can set all the settings back to defult
[08:01] <Cannoli> all the video card settings?
[08:01] <vistakiller> ok cannili what card you have?
[08:01] <arash> vistakiller: nah, nothing I can do from there, I tested everything from the gui
[08:01] <jhutchins> arash: I dunno, I would just go into my kmix mixer panel, turn the headphones up and the speakers down, but what options you have depends on the card.
[08:01] <Cannoli> ati radeon 1650
[08:01] <Cannoli> it was working fine before
[08:01] <vistakiller> you need to set the driver?
[08:02] <jhutchins> The sound card builders don't offer the full information on how to control them to OS developers, so sometimes not all features work.
[08:02] <vistakiller> give in condole fglrxinfo and paste here
[08:03] <Cannoli> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[08:03] <Cannoli> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[08:03] <Cannoli> OpenGL renderer string: Radeon X1650 Series
[08:03] <Cannoli> OpenGL version string: 2.0.6334 (8.34.8)
[08:03] <arash> jhutchins:  well, even at my Vista only one is active at the time, thats fine, but by 'a random' the priority is different, so it's better on Vista
[08:03] <vistakiller> you have already the ati driver
[08:03] <vistakiller> what is the problem?
[08:03] <arash> jhutchins, yea, and the new computer my dad bought is probably badly entangled to only work on vista :p
[08:03] <Cannoli> my screen is totally messed up
[08:03] <Cannoli> here i'll bgive u a link to a screenie
[08:03] <vistakiller> resolution?
[08:04] <vistakiller> or refresh rate?
[08:04] <Cannoli> http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e331/TMD-Cannoli/snapshot4.jpg
[08:04] <arash> oh dear god...
[08:06] <Cannoli> srry abt tht
[08:06] <vistakiller> cannoli
[08:06] <Cannoli> did u get the link
[08:06] <Cannoli> ?
[08:07] <vistakiller> have you try to open the glass windows?
[08:07] <Cannoli> wht glass windows?
[08:07] <kkathman> looks like he's got overlapping panels and over lapping applets :)
[08:07] <vistakiller> i think you not
[08:08] <vistakiller> you have restart you pc after the problem?
[08:08] <Cannoli> yep
[08:08] <Cannoli> still same thing
[08:08] <vistakiller> go to the sysstem settings
[08:08] <Cannoli> ok
[08:09] <vistakiller> and go to windows preference
[08:09] <Cannoli> window behaviouir?
[08:09] <Cannoli> behavior*
[08:09] <vistakiller> yes i think i dont use englsh ubuntu
[08:09] <Cannoli> kk
[08:10] <vistakiller> ok there in your right exist some tabs
[08:10] <Cannoli> yep
[08:11] <vistakiller> what is the name of the last tab?
[08:11] <dan_> test
[08:11] <Cannoli> translucency
[08:11] <dan_> radio check
[08:12] <vistakiller> go there and see if you have mark it
[08:12] <Dr_willis> CQ CQ CQ....
[08:12] <Dr_willis> :)
[08:12] <Cannoli> no
[08:12] <Cannoli> its unchecked
[08:12] <vistakiller> ok
[08:13] <vistakiller> strange problem you have
[08:13] <dan_> any body here familiar with edubuntu
[08:13] <Cannoli> yea
[08:13] <Dr_willis> !edubuntu
[08:13] <ubotu> Edubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org
[08:13] <Cannoli> it came outta no where
[08:13] <Dr_willis> :) other then that.. not used it.
[08:13] <vistakiller> whith which guide you have install ati driver?
[08:13] <Dr_willis> Its ubuntu + extra packagages. Whats to know.
[08:13] <vistakiller> with*
[08:14] <dan_> i have kubuntu and ubuntu installed...i just did a apt-get install for edubuntu...
[08:14] <dan_> and it does not show up under sessions under login
[08:14] <dan_> install went well and everything...just can't figure out how to launch the session
[08:14] <Cannoli> the !ati one
[08:14] <vistakiller> edubuntu is gnome session
[08:15] <Mr_Sonoma> edubuntu i thought was a software package list like mediaubuntu is just the educational software
[08:15] <Cannoli> not the fiesty one
[08:15] <Cannoli> the other one
[08:15] <Cannoli> i forget wht its caleld
[08:15] <Cannoli> the guide said if i have kubuntu i should use the one thts not fiesty
[08:15] <vistakiller> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide
[08:15] <vistakiller> this?
[08:15] <dan_> yes, when i try to launch the gnome session it just launches my ubuntu desktop
[08:16] <vistakiller> dan edubuntu is the ubuntu desktop with some education programmes
[08:16] <Cannoli> no
[08:16] <Cannoli> !ati
[08:16] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:16] <Dr_willis> edubuntu = a set of educational software packages. Not a 'desktop' it may have some new default themes/wallpaper however. :)
[08:17] <dan_> yes, i gather that much, but i don't see any of the eductional apps that are supposed to come w/ edubuntu when i'm in ubuntu/kubuntu...
[08:17] <Dr_willis> at least thats how it was last i looked
[08:17] <Cannoli> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:17] <dan_> they should appear under either session right?
[08:17] <Cannoli> this one
[08:17] <Dr_willis> could be the menus need to get refreshed.
[08:17] <Dr_willis> log out/back in perhaps?
[08:17] <Cannoli> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-d8c6fd05bce340dfc3ad483abf0e18997868540b
[08:17] <Cannoli> the exact tht
[08:18] <Cannoli> exact one*
[08:18] <ubuntu> hi
[08:18] <dan_> tried that logging out/restart....it shows the edubuntu logo at the login screen and splash...but no new apps
[08:18] <ubuntu> anybody can tellme
[08:18] <ubuntu> something _
[08:18] <vistakiller> xm give this in
[08:18] <vistakiller> glxinfo|grepdirect
[08:18] <vistakiller> and tell us what happen
[08:18] <ubuntu> how can i made that my keyboard work before system is load _
[08:18] <Cannoli> should i do that in konsole?
[08:18] <vistakiller> yes
[08:19] <ubuntu> ????????????????????????
[08:19] <ubuntu> bye bye
[08:19] <Cannoli> direct rendering: Yes
[08:19] <vistakiller> you are ok with you driver
[08:20] <Cannoli> so wht else could it be
[08:20] <Cannoli> ok how do i restart my xserver?
[08:20] <vistakiller> open terminal
[08:20] <vistakiller> and type
[08:21] <Cannoli> !xerver
[08:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xerver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:22] <Cannoli> !xserver
[08:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:22] <vistakiller> gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:22] <newsense> !xorg
[08:22] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:22] <vistakiller> try to find this
[08:22] <vistakiller> Section "Extensions"         Option  "Composite" "Disable" EndSection  Section "ServerFlags"         Option  "AIGLX" "off" EndSection
[08:22] <vistakiller> or go there and try to find this in the file
[08:22] <vistakiller> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide
[08:23] <vistakiller> if you havent add it
[08:24] <dan_> any more suggestions on how to get edubuntu apps to show under applications?
[08:28] <Mr_Sonoma> dan_, have you looked under the science & math and edutainment options under your "K" menu or what ever Gnome calls it.
[08:28] <Mr_Sonoma> depending on what DE you are using
[08:29] <newsense> kubuntu is pretty nice, i started on redhat, moved to debian very soon after, tried suse, i think for personal use ill stick with kubuntu, but debian is nice for server
[08:29] <newsense> everything worked out the box with generic kernel
[08:30] <dan_> Mr_Sononma, yes there is nothing new there, under the education category of applications in GNOME nor under edutainment in KDE
[08:30] <Cannoli> Section "Extensions"
[08:30] <Cannoli>         Option      "Composite" "disable"
[08:30] <Cannoli> EndSection
[08:30] <Cannoli> thts wht i have in my xorg
[08:30] <Cannoli> thts the last 3 lines
[08:30] <dan_> or any of the categories for that matter...
[08:32] <Mr_Sonoma> dan_, not sure where/what else to tell you, if it installed software with gui front ends, witch i would imagine it would have, then they should be showing. all my software shows in all 4 DE's
[08:32] <vistakiller> ok put and the other if you dont have it
[08:32] <dan_> the #about Edubuntu about the only new thing that is in my applications..
[08:32] <vistakiller> Section "ServerFlags"
[08:32] <vistakiller>    Option  "AIGLX" "off"
[08:32] <vistakiller> EndSection
[08:33] <christopher> Is the shadow around the kmenu normal in kubuntu?
[08:33] <vistakiller> and restart your xserver after
[08:33] <lnx> i change my keyboard layout from global to application and its auto return to global when i close kcontrol what i can do ?
[08:33] <Cannoli> k
[08:33] <Cannoli> just  asec
[08:33] <vistakiller> yes you can change it from the settings christopher
[08:33] <christopher> ok thank you
[08:33] <BluesKaj> lnx, save your changes before exiting
[08:34] <dan_> thanks Mr S, -- by the way i just did the sudo apt-get install edubuntu-desktop method to install...should i have used another method ?
[08:34] <lnx> BluesKaj , i have save ( click on apply ) more things that i need to do ?
[08:34] <BluesKaj> appy yes, but then click on the save icon
[08:35] <BluesKaj> er apply
[08:35] <Mr_Sonoma> dan_, edubuntu-desktop is a meta package like the ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop should have installed all the software associated with that desktop package
[08:35] <lnx> where ? ( how it looks ?)
[08:35] <dan_> actually I guess I do have one application from the install--Diagram Editor, that's an edubuntu package right?
[08:36] <Mr_Sonoma> !edubuntu
[08:36] <ubotu> Edubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org
[08:36] <newsense> anyove here use konversation?
[08:36] <dan_> yea, that's what i figured, i'm just not seeing anything new besides the mentioned...
[08:36] <dan_> using konversation here...
[08:37] <Mr_Sonoma> dan_, i dont know if thats part of that package or not. im gonna look at the website and see if i cant find a software list
[08:37] <christopher> vistakiller, ok sorry where do i change this?
[08:37] <newsense> dan_: do you know why the icons fo some operators are a green O and some look like a person ?
[08:37] <dan_> i had no problem doing the kde install...but just not really seeing any of these advertised apps on the edubuntu site
[08:37] <christopher> vistakiller, sorry i found it thanks
[08:38] <dan_> icons for operators?
[08:38] <vistakiller> there are too many setting in kde :P
[08:38] <newsense> dan_: yes
[08:38] <BluesKaj> lnx , sorry i thought you were using kcontrol
[08:39] <kaminix|benkyou> How can I easily make a textfile with an index of an entire harddrive? "ls -R /media/device >> textfile"? Will that include subfolders? If I do that from a live CD on a Windows PC, will I need SU?
[08:39] <dan_> well, honestly this is my first time using konversation, so i'm not really in a postion to answer any technical questions...
[08:39] <lnx> BluesKaj i am . .. ( i run : sudo kcontrol )
[08:39] <BluesKaj> lnx, i think you may have relog in for the changes to take
[08:39] <newsense> dan_: nm i feel like an idiot those are users with voice that have a human icon
[08:39] <BluesKaj> ok lnx , the save icon looks like floppy disk
[08:39] <newsense> dan_: thanks for hearing me though
[08:40] <dan_> ahh ok...
[08:41] <mahdi> I mounted a spare fat32 partition to use as data storage shared between windows/ubuntu, but it always ends up requiring root permissions to use it, how would I change that?
[08:42] <Mr_Sonoma> dan_, wish i could have been more help, sorry but i gotta run
[08:43] <dan_> ok thanks anyways Mr S
[08:44] <intelikey> i've never seen so many 'segfault and core dump' s in all my life...
[08:44] <lnx> i dont see here any save botton ? ( kcontrol keyboard layout menu ) only apply botton ?
[08:45] <intelikey> apply is save
[08:45] <tekstacy> 'lo all
[08:45] <lnx> intelikey, ok so why it doesnt save ?
[08:45] <tekstacy> How do I remove a program not found on the add/remove list?
[08:45] <intelikey> inx a bug maybe ?
[08:46] <intelikey> tekstacy how was it installed ?
[08:46] <tekstacy> crap, don't recall. It's google-earth. I followed some short instructions.
[08:47] <lnx> intelikey , how i can know if its bug ? ( i want to change the keyboard layout from "global" to "application" ) ?
[08:47] <newsense> tekstacy: believe google earth comes with an uninstall script
[08:47] <intelikey> tekstacy i think a .run file ?   in such case you either need the file list that such installer installed, or the makers removal tool
[08:48] <tekstacy> cool, I shall look. Thanks
[08:49] <intelikey> lnx any change made to your kde session should be reapplied on the next login,  if they aren't then either you have chosen to start with an empty session or it's a bug
[08:49] <xst> After upgrading, "update-grub" creates a buggy "menu.lst" file where the root partition is wrong. How can I fix this?
[08:50] <lnx> intelikey , i start with empty session , but even when i click apply and then exit from kcontrol and then enter again to it this autoreturn to "global" ?
[08:50] <intelikey> fix the fstab ?    manually edit the menu.lst  ??
[08:50] <intelikey> inx that sounds like a bug to me.
[08:51] <intelikey> check the launchpad
[08:51] <intelikey> !bug
[08:51] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[08:51] <intelikey> or actually bugs.ubuntu.com  i guess
[08:52] <xst> intelikey: The fstab is correct. And manually fixing the menu.lst file just fixes it temporarily until update-grub is run next time
[08:53] <intelikey> xst put  " exit 0 "  on the first line of the update-grub script  ?
[08:53] <intelikey> and keep track of the bug until it's fixed
[08:54] <xst> intelikey: Is the bug registered? Do you know the bug #?
[08:55] <intelikey> i don't have the # no.  but if you look it up it is known
[08:55] <intelikey> there may be a fix on the bug report   but i don't use grub so haven't looked
[08:55] <intelikey> can't use grub
[08:59] <christopher> when kaffeine plays a video, a small window opens up also but it doesn't really exist because when i click on it, i can't do anything with it
[09:01] <intelikey> heh  doesn't exist...  :)
[09:01] <christopher> if i right click on the window, it gives me my desktop options
[09:01] <christopher> i can't move them, click on them or anything, it's like they really aren't there
[09:02] <newsense> or are they?
[09:02] <Ace2016> did your kwin crash?
[09:02] <christopher> nope
[09:02] <Ace2016> try mplayer
[09:02] <christopher> allright
[09:02] <Ace2016> or kmplayer
[09:03] <d347hm4n> run it the alt+f2 killall kaffeine
[09:03] <d347hm4n> sorry * then
[09:03] <d347hm4n> then run it again, might fix the prob
[09:03] <Ace2016> killall -9 kaffeine, it might be stuck
[09:03] <christopher> no the windows are still there
[09:04] <christopher> maybe it's something with compiz?
[09:04] <Ace2016> unlikely but possible
[09:05] <d347hm4n> is there a nice config guide for kubuntu or is there just the documentation in the wiki?
[09:06] <d347hm4n> not that the documentation is bad, it just isn't sequential
[09:06] <msoini> another player problem: Kaffeine refuses to display subtitles, and VLC insists on rendering them large enough to cover the screen when i switch to fullscreen
[09:06] <intelikey> sequential d347hm4n ?
[09:06] <d347hm4n> man vlc, there may be a flag for forcing the subs to be smaller msoini
[09:06] <d347hm4n> yea like this then that then that
[09:07] <d347hm4n> for fedora there is the guide provided by mjwired
[09:08] <intelikey> you mean config wireless then sound then...  ?
[09:08] <msoini> d347hm4n: tried that already, the VLC man page is just 64 lines
[09:08] <d347hm4n> msoini: have you had a look on the vlc website and forums?
[09:09] <msoini> d347hm4n: yep
[09:09] <d347hm4n> msoini: damn
[09:09] <bbrinkman> hey, anyone here with widescreen trouble experience?
[09:10] <anthraxter> hello
[09:10] <anthraxter> need some help?
[09:10] <anthraxter> !
[09:10] <intelikey> msoini looked at file:///usr/share/vlc/http/index.html  ?
[09:10] <Minnozz> what's wrong when I get this output while untarbz2-ing linux-source? http://paster.dazjorz.com/?a=showpaste&paste=958
[09:11] <anthraxter> I am on windows right now.I reboot with the Kubuntu Installation DVD, i press the Start Or Install Kubuntu, it loads the kernel everything OK and then it freezes up.
[09:12] <intelikey> Minnozz tunrcated file
[09:12] <intelikey> md5 the tarball
[09:12] <msoini> intelikey: just says "" />"
[09:12] <Minnozz> intelikey: ty, i'll do
[09:13] <intelikey> msoini they could have moved them      dpkg -L vlc | grep .html
[09:13] <bbrinkman> alright.. I have a 1440x900 flatscreen, and I have a Radeon X1600 using the generic vesa driver (the fglrx doesn't work at all)... somehow, the resolution can't go beyond 1024x786
[09:14] <bbrinkman> whatever i try... i have copied a lot of xorg.conf from a working backup now
[09:15] <msoini> intelikey: what should I be seeing?
[09:15] <tuxi> hi, anyone here has the uvesafb thing running?
[09:15] <BluesKaj> bbrinkman, have you tried setting up a driver in system settings for the monitor ?
[09:16] <christopher> ok, i think it was a config problem, i cannot find the win32 codecs anywhere in synaptic
[09:16] <bigleon> Hello
[09:16] <Minnozz> intelikey: dab809175b4be700e39caf7a9b3b2bff        linux-source-2.6.20.tar.bz2
[09:17] <intelikey> Minnozz and the md5 from the website said ???
[09:17] <anthraxter> hm
[09:17] <Minnozz> intelikey: adept gives another md5, but i'm not sure if that's the md5 of the file
[09:17] <anthraxter> any solutions on my problem?
[09:17] <bbrinkman> @bleuskaj: yeah, i've tried the standard vesa, fbdev and the latest fglrx, both the ati ones caused a 'out of range' error on my display... even though a set a maximum refresh rate of 60
[09:17] <intelikey> Minnozz oh this is a deb source package ?
[09:19] <Minnozz> intelikey: yes it is
[09:19] <Minnozz> (i think)
[09:19] <_Bart_> Hi,  I have a problem. I activated the kde transparantacy and now only see black
[09:19] <bbrinkman> i think it's more of a xorg.conf issue; i tried this with slackware as well, but without the handy kde system configuration utility
[09:19] <intelikey> anthraxter boot with    noacpi nosplash vga=normal   appended to the kernel line ?
[09:20] <intelikey> Minnozz then i don't know.  i'll defer you to someone in charge
[09:20] <BluesKaj> bbrinkman, the graphics card isn't always the culprit in resolution settings , sometimes the screen monitor settings are out of range cuz the plugnplay settings...check for the monitor drivers as well as the graphics card
[09:20] <intelikey> but the error indicates the archive is a partial archive not the full tarball.
[09:21] <bbrinkman> yeah, hence the safe vesa setting; even detailed modelines in xorg.conf wouldn't work
[09:21] <anthraxter> hm
[09:21] <anthraxter> i shall try that intelikey
[09:21] <anthraxter> bb
[09:21] <Minnozz> intelikey: ok, will it work when I re-install the package?
[09:21] <anthraxter> intelikey, what is the difference? :)
[09:22] <intelikey> Minnozz should.  might do an    apt-get clean   to flush the download cache first
[09:22] <BluesKaj> bbrinkman, have you looked the monitor drivers in system settings/ monitor & display
[09:23] <intelikey> anthraxter differance is you are switching off acpi support and the kernel frame buffer  (aka boot splash)   so that xorg doesn't have those to contend with
[09:23] <black_raven2525> every time I install a package or "apt-get upgrade", apt give this error message Setting up unreal-ircd (3.2.7-2) ...
[09:23] <black_raven2525> dpkg: error processing unreal-ircd (--configure):
[09:23] <black_raven2525>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127
[09:23] <black_raven2525> Setting up libkrb53 (1.4.4-5ubuntu3.3) ...
[09:23] <black_raven2525> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:23] <black_raven2525>  unreal-ircd
[09:23] <black_raven2525> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:23] <black_raven2525> how do i flush that?
[09:23] <intelikey> and that's a flood
[09:23] <newsense> !postbin
[09:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about postbin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:24] <Minnozz> !pastebin
[09:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:24] <newsense> thats it, lol
[09:24] <Minnozz> =)
[09:24] <newsense> thinking post for some reason
[09:25] <bbrinkman> bleuskaj, yeah, tried plug&play (which in turn cause my monitor to display a few stripes), and the standard setting for flatscreens.. but the resolution won't go beyond 1024x768
[09:25] <intelikey> black_raven2525  sudo dpkg -P --force-all unreal-ircd ;sudo apt-get install -f
[09:25] <bbrinkman> unfortunately, i have some cheap german one, so no drivers... but this should work with generic 1440x900@60... windows and my imac do it right with this monitor
[09:26] <black_raven2525> now it says dpkg - warning: while removing unreal-ircd, directory `/usr/share/unreal-ircd' not empty so not removed.
[09:26] <_Bart_> Hi,  I have a problem. I activated the kde transparantacy and now only see black
[09:27] <BluesKaj> bbrinkman, look in the monitor/configure for a monitor driver
[09:27] <intelikey> black_raven2525 you're welcome.
[09:27] <BluesKaj> not the the std plugnplay variety, bbrinkman
[09:27] <black_raven2525> it didnt work, now it says dpkg - warning: while removing unreal-ircd, directory `/usr/share/unreal-ircd' not empty so not removed.
[09:27] <intelikey> black_raven2525 you're welcome.
[09:28] <intelikey> meaning yes it did work.
[09:28] <mordeto> #ubuntu-pl
[09:28] <black_raven2525> o, that did fix it
[09:28] <black_raven2525> thanls
[09:28] <black_raven2525> thanks*
[09:29] <bbrinkman> blueskaj, what am i looking for then... i have this one: http://www.nu-global.com/1_english/3_products/01_ide.php?pID=85
[09:29] <bbrinkman> strangely enough, mine does indeed do 1440x900.. strange website
[09:30] <bbrinkman> but it's not in the list
[09:30] <bbrinkman> so i have no other option then a generic/default display driver
[09:32] <BluesKaj> ok bbrinkman , now we need a workaround for that
[09:34] <bbrinkman> blueskaj, love to hear it :D
[09:36] <shifty-> how do i install the package for kde4?
[09:36] <newsense> !kde4
[09:36] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at <http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule>. Beta 1 packages can be found at <http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php>.
[09:37] <shifty-> well i read theres beta 2 now
[09:37] <vlt> stdin: Hello. It's me, "runlevel UNKNOWN". I checked the contents of /etc/event.d/rc{2,3} and found differences to your version. rc3 looks fine but rc2: http://stdin.pastebin.us/39439
[09:37] <BluesKaj> bbrinkman , try this tutorial ...it may work for your setup , if not you can always reconfig xorg : http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty
[09:37] <intelikey> hd is filling up with core dumps......
[09:37] <newsense> shifty-: read the topic
[09:37] <bbrinkman> shify, use adept manager, and select unsupported updates in file > manage repositories
[09:38] <bbrinkman> blueskaj, alright, i'll try
[09:38] <intelikey> ah man it's rpm that's core dumping....
[09:39] <jhutchins> intelikey: rpm?
[09:39] <intelikey> yeah
[09:40] <intelikey> so i can't install lilo  so i can't make the hd bootable   so i'm stuck with a boot floopy   for the life of that install
[09:41] <intelikey> which may be about one day !
[09:41] <intelikey> can't install networking tools either....
[09:41] <jhutchins> intelikey: well, you could try grub.
[09:41] <jhutchins> what distro?
[09:41] <intelikey> wont work
[09:41] <intelikey> mdk10
[09:42] <intelikey> grub can't boot a partitionless hd
[09:46] <Minnozz> intelikey: I reinstalled the package (source) but I still get the error
[09:46] <intelikey> jhutchins what i've got,   an old 486 i thought i would convert into a gateway router    had a mdk10 live CD i made back when.   the box can't boot from cd and ubuntu can't boot from floppy (initrd too big)     i also have "BasicLinux"  a two floppy distro     i booted that copied the cd to the hd    copied the kernel to another box and made a boot floppy using it.   that got me a running mdk10 on the 486  but rpm is hosed..
[09:47] <intelikey> Minnozz oh.   you have  "build-essential"  installed ?
[09:48] <Minnozz> intelikey: oops, I haven't...
[09:48] <Minnozz> installing now
[09:50] <Minnozz> intelikey: Omg, I found the error...
[09:51] <Minnozz> intelikey: just 4 letters
[09:51] <Minnozz> 'sudo'
[09:51] <intelikey> :)
[09:58] <BluesKaj> intelikey, there's some of both in most of us :)
[09:59] <intelikey> BluesKaj the higher percentage of us seem the be the older brother in that list...   ;/
[10:00] <newsense> anyone know how to make kdm show users names as clickable links rather than typing in username ? (girlfriend just started using this computer and likes the way she clicks her username at home in xp)
[10:01] <intelikey> kcontrol      i think the actual selection says  display users     in the login section...
[10:02] <BluesKaj> newsense, i beleive you can setup more users in system settings/user management
[10:04] <Dr_willis> Im old-skool i just edit the kdm config file :)
[10:04] <Dr_willis> !find kdm
[10:04] <ubotu> Found: kde-kdm-themes, kdmtheme, kdm
[10:04] <Doctor_Nick> How do I start the kde bar at the bottom when it crashes?
[10:04] <intelikey> hmmm interesting   i just mounted the live CD   chroot'd into it   and rpm is segfalting there too  so it wasn't my copying that bombed it was the live CD i made back when...
[10:05] <Doctor_Nick> !find kpanel
[10:05] <d347hm4n> hi, i screwed the nvidia driver install, i have new 7300gt and i installed the nvdia-glx, not the nvidia-glx-new, easy to fix
[10:05] <intelikey> Dr_willis yeah.    or gdm    seeing that i don't like kdm
[10:05] <ubotu> Package/file kpanel does not exist in feisty
[10:05] <Doctor_Nick> anyone?
[10:05] <Dr_willis> Doctor_Nick,  the program name is 'kicker' i do belive
[10:05] <Doctor_Nick> yeah, that was it
[10:05] <Doctor_Nick> thanks
[10:06] <d347hm4n> i still think i have to change the nv in the xorg.conf to nvidia, however when i do this step it doesn't work when i restart kde?
[10:06] <Dr_willis> d347hm4n,  you did a apt-get remove nvidia-glx, and apt-get install nvidia-glx-new ?
[10:06] <Dr_willis> then i think a reboot is needed.
[10:06] <d347hm4n> yea but i did it through the package manager
[10:07] <Dr_willis> I always do it with the restricted-manager utility. :)
[10:07] <d347hm4n> i have done a few reboots
[10:07] <Dr_willis> !info restricted-manager
[10:07] <ubotu> restricted-manager: manage non-free hardware drivers. In component main, is optional. Version 0.20 (feisty), package size 32 kB, installed size 300 kB
[10:07] <d347hm4n> when i do sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[10:07] <intelikey> d347hm4n yeah.  the kernel module has to be loaded.   for what ever ungodly reason  they seem to recommend reboot for that
[10:07] <d347hm4n> Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[10:08] <d347hm4n> This script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this
[10:08] <d347hm4n> not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following
[10:08] <d347hm4n> command:
[10:08] <d347hm4n> md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum
[10:08] <d347hm4n> otherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section
[10:08] <d347hm4n> from nv to nvidia.
[10:08] <NickPresta> !pastebin | d347hm4n
[10:08] <ubotu> d347hm4n: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:08] <d347hm4n> my bad
[10:08] <d347hm4n> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36934/
[10:09] <intelikey> d347hm4n also you need to    sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf ;sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg     then run it.
[10:10] <d347hm4n> ok that worked
[10:10] <d347hm4n> now a reboot yea?
[10:10] <intelikey> that's what they say
[10:10] <d347hm4n> well at least it isn't winblows
[10:10] <d347hm4n> brb
[10:13] <d347hm4n> and how do i know it has worked?
[10:14] <d347hm4n> cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[10:14] <dudeicles> what is the problem you were having making you have to install an update?
[10:14] <intelikey> grep nv /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:15] <d347hm4n> ok thx
[10:15] <tioan> hi
[10:16] <dudeicles> hi
[10:16] <Dr_willis> Hmm. odd.. My Mouse has a side-to-side scroll wheel. and under Kde it adjusts the volume up/down when i go side to side.. heh..
[10:16] <d347hm4n> lol
[10:16] <tioan> did, suspend2ram or disk works with / on lvm ?
[10:16] <intelikey> Dr_willis handy.
[10:17] <dudeicles> Dr_willis: seems like an added option.
[10:17] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  :) or else its getting confused with my multmedia keyboard also.
[10:17] <dudeicles> Dr_willis: A very nice added option. :)
[10:17] <Dr_willis> I dident even realize the wheel HAD a side to side scroll
[10:18] <intelikey> is it the pressed down wheel ?
[10:18] <Dr_willis> Wowsers.. the Calculator Utton on this Multimedia keyboard.... Launches a Calculator!
[10:18] <intelikey> had a mouse that would scroll or pressed scroll was side scroll
[10:18] <dudeicles> how did you do that.
[10:19] <Dr_willis> this mouse has an actual side to side motion. . im just wondering how kde knows what multi-media-keys are what on these new keyboards
[10:19] <Dr_willis> I just now noticed i HAD the buttons on this new keyboard.
[10:19] <NickPresta> My E-Mail button on my keyboard opens up the Composer window in KMail. Quite nice. :)
[10:19] <Dr_willis> NickPresta,  this one does also.  just noticed that l
[10:19] <dudeicles> KDE didn't find my buttons on my keyboard.
[10:20] <dudeicles> oh wait
[10:20] <dappermuis> im running gutsy tribe 5 :D
[10:20] <dudeicles> I spoke too soon
[10:20] <dudeicles> some of the buttons do work
[10:20] <dudeicles> now how would I alter them?
[10:20] <dudeicles> I use Thunderbird not kmail
[10:21] <BluesKaj> only about half of the special buttons work on this compaq KB...thank goodness the mute and vol work :)
[10:21] <dudeicles> BluesKaj: I feell ya my volume and mut work also
[10:21] <BluesKaj> the mail button launches t-bird compose
[10:22] <marek_> why automatix displays no connecting to internet even I have
[10:22] <NickPresta> !automatix | marek_
[10:22] <ubotu> marek_: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[10:22] <dudeicles> BluesKaj: Any idea how to alter the buttons?
[10:23] <jhutchins> intelikey: Ja, I wouldn't recommend mandriva, really.  <2006 has too many problems, >10 is too big.
[10:24] <jhutchins> Definitely not ubloatu.
[10:24] <jhutchins> intelikey: possibly a pre-fedora RH; or DSL/Puppy.
[10:24] <Dr_willis> Puppylinux is fun. :)
[10:25] <billie0w> hello
[10:25] <BluesKaj> dudeicles, in system settings / regional & language/keyboard layout/keyboard model
[10:26] <rojanu> i have just installed kubuntu-desktop over ubuntu and my Kmenu is empty
[10:28] <dudeicles> BluesKaj: When I set up KDe I used the dumb redmond setup. How do I change everything to plainn KDE.
[10:28] <dudeicles> like when you first install it asks you settings in a wizard. How can I run that again?
[10:28] <intelikey> anyone know of a way to boot the ubuntu hoary install CD from a floppy disk ?
[10:28] <Dr_willis> the kpersonalizer tool?
[10:28] <Dr_willis> or is it kpersonalize
[10:28] <Dr_willis> somthing like that i think
[10:29] <dudeicles> Dr_willis: Is taht to me?
[10:29] <intelikey> well never mind.  i don't think the installer will run in 32m rem
[10:29] <BluesKaj> dudeicles, system settings/appearance
[10:29] <Dr_willis> kpersonalizer  kpersonalizer - installation personalizer for KDE
[10:30] <Dr_willis> :) if thats what you are refering to.. i guess its for you.
[10:30] <Dr_willis> I cant think of any other wizard thing.
[10:31] <bobbyyu> Does anyone know what "job-hold-until-specified" means?
[10:31] <dudeicles> Dr_willis: That was perfect.
[10:31] <Dr_willis> dudeicles,  thats a neat app.. and annoying in ways. :)
[10:32] <dudeicles> well I'm a windows guy so it's native to me.
[10:32] <Dr_willis> if you install it.. then all users will see it the next time they log in. Even if they have been logged in befor...
[10:32] <intelikey> sounds like don't  run this until something else calls for it                 bobbyyu
[10:33] <bobbyyu> Well it appeared when I made a test print on my Ubuntu OS
[10:33] <intelikey> ah a cups switch
[10:33] <bobbyyu> What should I do?
[10:33] <bobbyyu> What should I do?
[10:33] <intelikey> flush cups ?   maybe...
[10:34] <intelikey> flush cups ?   maybe...
[10:34] <bobbyyu> How do I flush cups?
[10:34] <intelikey> printmanager   look for stopped jobs      i'm just guessing about the message you described
[10:35] <bobbyyu> No one so far can tell me what it means...
[10:35] <bobbyyu> So sorry if I sound desperate
[10:35] <bobbyyu> My printer can print before, until I formatted my hard drive
[10:37] <rdvon> I just got super karamba with a whole bunch of cool little gadgets, but whenever i turn off the pc, super karamba doesnt load at startup, and when I do load super karamba up it doesnt show any of the stuff I've installed.
[10:37] <intelikey> well it means   "hi i'm a flag telling something to wait until called"   but why you are seeing it is the real question.     maybe the printer is paused ?   maybe cups is on hold.     idk.
[10:37] <darksandman> hehe hi dudes :)
[10:38] <dudeicles> bobbyyu: What type of printer?
[10:38] <bobbyyu> Lexmark Z600
[10:38] <rdvon> hp's are best because their easy to isntall in linux. :)
[10:39] <intelikey> epson   print raw.
[10:39] <rdvon> How do I make all my super karamba apps *stay* on my desktop.
[10:40] <rdvon> because they always disappear when I close super karamba and open it back up >:O
[10:40] <rdvon> And then I can never find them again.
[10:40] <rdvon> quite annoying.
[10:41] <dudeicles> rdvon: what is Karamba?
[10:41] <dudeicles> !karamba | dudeicles
[10:41] <intelikey> spam http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39442
[10:45] <bobbyyu> Where can I go for Linux printer help?
[10:45] <NickPresta> !printer | bobbyyu
[10:45] <ubotu> bobbyyu: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[10:45] <NickPresta> bobbyyu, what seems to be the problem? Which printer?
[10:45] <rdvon> dudeicles: it's only the coolest widget like manager ever made for kubuntu
[10:45] <bobbyyu> Lexmark Z600
[10:45] <rdvon> you *need* to get it dudeicles.
[10:45] <rdvon> sudo apt-get install karamba
[10:45] <rdvon> er..
[10:45] <jbesiee> hi, is the kde4 beta2 read for feisty or not ?
[10:45] <bobbyyu> It's a network printer
[10:45] <rdvon> sudo apt-get install superkarmba
[10:45] <NickPresta> bobbyyu, I believe I have that printer (I know it's a Lexmark Z something). Let me check.
[10:45] <dudeicles> rdvon: will try it.
[10:46] <rdvon> I can show you a screenshot of it :)
[10:46] <bobbyyu> When I print through the printer, it says "job-hold-until-specified"
[10:46] <bobbyyu> And it doesn't print
[10:46] <dudeicles> it's installed how do I run it?
[10:47] <mauri> i have a problem with kubuntu
[10:47] <dudeicles> would this be comparable to Yahoo widgets?
[10:47] <Crell> Hi folks.  I've an odd case.  I have an SD reader in a laptop that was working fine with Feisty.  In order to get other hardware working I upgraded to the kernel out of gutsy (2.6.22-10).  I just tried the SD reader again and, lo, it doesn't seem to be automounting properly.  dmesg reports that it finds mmcblk0, but does not create a device file for it.  Any idea what I need to poke at?
[10:47] <mauri> sometimes the screen become with vertical rows e nothing is possible to do
[10:48] <bobbyyu> Should I have edited something on printers.conf or smb.conf?
[10:48] <christopher> I saw in the Kubuntu forum, to install ivtv firmware from synaptic but i cannot locate it, any suggestions?
[10:48] <rdvon> dudeicles: screenshot of superkaramba (to the right of the desktop) http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s70/rdvon/snapshot5.png
[10:48] <NickPresta> bobbyyu, my printer is a Z615. Are you sure that the printer is "enabled", idle and accepting jobs?
[10:48] <rdvon> dudeicles: it's better than yahoo widgets in my opinion.
[10:49] <dudeicles> i've been looking for somethign like that.
[10:49] <dudeicles> now how do I run it?
[10:49] <bobbyyu> How do I check?
[10:49] <dudeicles> type superkaramba?
[10:49] <rdvon> dudeicles: yeah.
[10:49] <rdvon> press alt f2
[10:49] <rdvon> than type.
[10:49] <rdvon> you can download all the widgets directly from the program
[10:49] <NickPresta> bobbyyu, System Settings > Printers > Click on your printer to see it's information. It should be idle (accepting jobs). Otherwise, right click on the printer name and "enable" it.
[10:49] <rdvon> it gets them from kde-look.org
[10:50] <dudeicles> only shows me theems
[10:50] <rdvon> click get new stuff
[10:50] <christopher> I saw in the Kubuntu forum, to install ivtv firmware from synaptic but i cannot locate it, any suggestions?
[10:50] <rdvon> at the top
[10:50] <intelikey> mauri test   alt+SysRQ+r  then alt+ctrl+f2 when that happens   that should tell you if the xserver is the problem or if it's vidio card issue (i.e. kernel side)   if you get to a login prompt you can login and do   sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[10:50] <bobbyyu> This is Ubuntu though
[10:51] <NickPresta> bobbyyu, oh. Perhaps #ubuntu would be more help? I don't know my way around it's GUI tools.
[10:51] <bobbyyu> Did you have to edit something in printers.conf or smb.conf
[10:52] <NickPresta> bobbyyu, nope. All was done via GUI tools in my system settings.
[10:53] <dudeicles> rdvon: Looks good to me.
[10:54] <mauri> intelikey: sorry what is SysRQ
[10:54] <rdvon> dudeicles: http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=38&PHPSESSID=fafabf019edc64e24051f508a2d44b5d you can also get the desklets (I just figured out the name, yay!) from here
[10:54] <NickPresta> mauri, it's the print screen button (it should say SysRq under Print Screen)
[10:55] <intelikey> mauri normally shared with "print screen"
[10:55] <jbesiee> hi, is the kde4 beta2 read for feisty or not ? the package seems ready but it don't work in my pc
[10:57] <intelikey> now how can this be    umount: /mnt/cdrom: device is busy
[10:57] <intelikey> no gui running
[10:58] <intelikey> no console cd'd to it.
[10:58] <zipper> i would guess the device is busy
[10:58] <intelikey> no apps reading it
[10:58] <intelikey> zipper so how can it be busy ?
[10:58] <zipper> hard to tell. You might just have to wait for a timeout to occur
[10:59] <zipper> give it 5 mins, try to umount again
[10:59] <zipper> otherwise there must be some process that is still using it
[10:59] <intelikey> zipper for what to time out ?    there is nothing running
[10:59] <zipper> an instruction to the cdrom drive given by a now-closed application or something, what do i know? =P
[11:00] <intelikey> i found it.  kernel module "loop" is what's hanging it
[11:01] <intelikey> looks like a bug
[11:01] <intelikey> can't rm the module can't umount the drive
[11:02] <mauri> intelikey: please are you still there?
[11:02] <intelikey> mauri not for long
[11:03] <mauri> intelikey: i tried but kde logged me out
[11:03] <mauri> intelikey: and i did know how to rstert kde
[11:04] <intelikey> mauri i told you how     sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[11:04] <intelikey> it was all in one post.
[11:04] <intelikey> mauri test   alt+SysRQ+r  then alt+ctrl+f2 when that happens   that should tell you if the xserver is the problem or if it's vidio card issue (i.e. kernel side)   if you get to a login prompt you can login and do   sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[11:05] <intelikey> mauri you should do that ^   when the vidio crashes on you.
[11:05] <mauri> intelikey: you are right but i didn't see your messenger because kde has been closed
[11:05] <mauri> intelikey: in windows i never had this problem
[11:06] <intelikey> mauri i have seen it a couple of times with different hardware.   normally  "ati" junk
[11:07] <christopher> any idea how i get the ivtv firmware? in the forum it says its in the synaptic but i cant find it
[11:07] <intelikey> not running ati radeon  are you?
[11:07] <zipper> mauri, no offense, but why exactly should we care that you did not have that problem in windows? I mean, you never played around with X in windows now did you?
[11:08] <intelikey> christopher probably in "restricted"  make sure that's enabled and updated then look
[11:08] <christopher> ok, i'll take a look
[11:08] <BluesKaj> zipper, windows users say that all the time ... we should be used to it by now :)
[11:09] <intelikey> i'm going to kill init now.
[11:09] <kooky> hello, what is the command to specify the JRE (Java Runtime Environement) by defect under kubuntu?
[11:09] <mauri> zipper: sorry, i 'm beginner in linux... i supposed that if it eas a hardware problem, also in windows something like that should be accour....but again, i'm beginner i don't know exactly what is x server...i'm here in order to know that
[11:09] <christopher> nope not there either
[11:09] <zipper> BluesKaj, i know. Just trying to beat some sense into them when i can i guess
[11:10] <zipper> mauri, no reason to be sorry, but what windows does and does not do isn't really relevant
[11:10] <mauri> zipper: ok
[11:10] <BluesKaj> kooky, there is no command to specify java over any other ...you have make sure it's installed
[11:10] <vlt> stdin: Solved. I replaced my rc2 file with yours and it works now. Thank you!!! I think rc2 had to be changed after Edgy install to make cryptsetup work and now the upgrade didn't touch the customized file.
[11:11] <zipper> mauri, although hardware issues are always nice to be aware of when trying to debug something
[11:11] <mauri> zipper: when it happens, the mouse cursor is able to move but nothing is posibile to do a part restart the system
[11:11] <zipper> mauri, i have no idea what you're having trouble with and i'm going to bed. Sorry
[11:12] <mauri> zipper: ok thanks goodnight
[11:12] <kooky> BluesKaj, yes it is
[11:13] <zipper> mauri, thanks, you too
[11:13] <zipper> and best of luck
[11:13] <kooky> BluesKaj, when i install a JRE it become the new defect JRE?
[11:13] <christopher> any idea how i get the ivtv firmware? in the forum it says its in the synaptic but i cant find it
[11:21] <yurimxpxman> I just installed mldonkey, and there aren't any servers listed to connect to.. what should I add?
[11:25] <newsense>  yurimxpxman: google ed2k server list ?
[11:26] <yurimxpxman> newsense: I found a list as a .met file.. does that work with mldonkey?
[11:27] <yurimxpxman> newsense: I can't even find a place to add servers :/
[11:28] <newsense> yurimxpxman: sorry, dont use the aplication it was more of a suggestion than an answer
[11:28] <christopher> any suggestions on getting a pvr-150 working
[11:30] <newsense> !pvr
[11:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pvr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:30] <newsense> !dvr
[11:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:34] <newsense> christopher: using the pvr for mythtv or such?
[11:34] <Kenichi_nl> hello does someone know a avi23gp converter for kubuntu?
[11:34] <emilsedgh> Kenichi_nl: maybe you wanna try ffmpeg, (CommandLine, no gui)
[11:35] <Kenichi_nl> i fail at command line
[11:35] <christopher> yes or just tvtime
[11:36] <Kenichi_nl> can you convert avi 2 3gp with tvtime?
[11:36] <emilsedgh> Kenichi_nl: thats so easy, should be just ffmpeg -i inputfile.avi outputfile.3gp (I think)
[11:36] <newsense> christopher: i googled it and seen a few howtos for mythtv and breezy
[11:37] <christopher> ok i'll look at that
[11:37] <Kenichi_nl> but i need to set the dir good?
[11:48] <zgmf-x20a> drif: hey drif you around today man???
[11:50] <zgmf-x20a> hmmm guess not.  well, anyone here today who may be abe to help me with the installation of drivers for my video card?
[11:50] <soulrider> !wireless
[11:50] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:51] <zgmf-x20a> wow ghost town in here today
[11:51] <d347hm4n> is it ati or nvidia
[11:52] <zgmf-x20a> d347hm4n: it is the nvidia geforce 8600m gs on my laptop, which is the asus f3sv-a1 model
[11:52] <d347hm4n> zgmf-x20a: i will find the link just a sec
[11:53] <d347hm4n> zgmf-x20a:http://kubuntuguide.org/Feisty#Install_Latest_nvidia.2FATI_driver
[11:53] <zgmf-x20a> d347hm4n: i found this link: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_100.14.09.html
[11:53] <zgmf-x20a> but have NO idea how to actually install it
[11:53] <d347hm4n> you must install nvidia-glx-new
[11:53] <d347hm4n> zgmf-x20a:what is it that you do not understand?
[11:54] <zgmf-x20a> d347hm4n: o, how? from adeot?
[11:54] <zgmf-x20a> erm adept i mean
[11:54] <d347hm4n> yes or you can
[11:54] <d347hm4n> sudo apt-get nvidia-glx-new
[11:55] <d347hm4n> you can do this in a terminal for any package
[11:55] <d347hm4n> a konsole that is
[11:55] <d347hm4n> just alt+f2 for the run command
[11:55] <zgmf-x20a> d347hm4n: ok so if i do that the drivers will automatically install?  or is that just a basic drover package for all nvidia based hardware?
[11:56] <d347hm4n> yes
[11:56] <zgmf-x20a> btw thanks for that link, it looks really helpful
[11:56] <d347hm4n> np, there is alot there so make sure you have a read
[11:56] <zgmf-x20a> ok, ill try that sudo line first, one second.  cause yah the current resolution SUCKS!
[11:57] <d347hm4n> for instance if you want to start a gui program from the konsole with root privileges you must use kdesu not sudo
[11:57] <d347hm4n> lol
[12:00] <d347hm4n> brb
[12:02] <zgmf-x20a> argh... anyone else in here understand how to get display drivers up and running, having an issue....
[12:02] <jussi01> zgmf-x20a: which card?
[12:03] <zgmf-x20a> jussi01: it is the nvidia geforce 8600m gs on my laptop, which is the asus f3sv-a1 model
[12:03] <jussi01> so did you install nvidia-glx-new?
[12:03] <zgmf-x20a> i have just installed the nvidia-glx-new from adept, but still not able to actually manipulate window size etc, properly
[12:04] <zgmf-x20a> nor is there any gui for working with the card directly
[12:04] <jussi01> IIRC, you need to run the config
[12:04] <zgmf-x20a> then i tried to insatall, nvidia-settings, and nvidia-xconfig, and it wont let me
[12:04] <jussi01> !ati
[12:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:05] <jussi01> have you read that link?
[12:05] <lopane> hi all ^^
[12:05] <zgmf-x20a> jussi01: im reading thru it now
[12:06] <jussi01> zgmf-x20a: ok, good luck. Im heading to bed. nite
[12:11] <zgmf-x20a> jussi01: issue... when following this walk thru, when i select i want nviida-dev, it automatically tries to uninstall nvidia-glx-new
[12:12] <zgmf-x20a> jussi01: erm sorry, when i select to install nvidia-glx, it automatically treis to uninstall nvidia-glx-new
[12:12] <atrain> Has prism2 been properly implemented with iwconfig/iwlist, or do you still need seperate custom apps to handle it?
[12:13] <zgmf-x20a> jussi01: what should i do?
[12:15] <zgmf-x20a> ok... so jussi01is gone... anyone else have a minute to help me get this display card up and running?
[12:15] <atrain> i'll give it a shot
[12:16] <zgmf-x20a> hey atrainsounds good.  do you know how to get video cards up and running?  it is the nvidia geforce 8600m gs on my laptop, which is the asus f3sv-a1 model
[12:16] <atrain> should be generic nvidia drivers
[12:17] <zgmf-x20a> atrain: ok, so what should i do?  also, i found this, but NO idea how to install it http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_100.14.09.html
[12:17] <atrain> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[12:17] <atrain> apt should have the drivers, just go through it
[12:18] <zgmf-x20a> atrain: yah i read that, and am stuck at a certain point going that rout
[12:19] <atrain> which point
[12:20] <atrain> acoring to the wiki, nvidia-glx-new is all that is requried...
[12:20] <atrain> *required
[12:28] <mattperry1976> I am getting a 'unable to save...' message all over the place in kubuntu all of a sudden...anyone know how to fix this?
[12:30] <zgmf-x20a> ARGH!!!!!!!!!! none of these drivers are working!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:30] <zgmf-x20a> grrr..........
[12:31] <kkathman> mattperry1976:  in your applications?
[12:31] <zgmf-x20a> ok anyone know... at some sort of guru level, how to install display drivers/
[12:31] <zgmf-x20a> lol
[12:31] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  which one?
[12:31] <zgmf-x20a> hey kkathman, it it is the nvidia geforce 8600m gs on my laptop, which is the asus f3sv-a1 model
[12:32] <dudeicles> what irc client does everyone here suggest for kubuntu users? I'm using xchat-gnome right now.
[12:32] <mattperry1976> like if I open a simple window in dolphin, and do nothing and then close it, I get this message...if I try to make changes to the k menu and try to save, I get this kind of message...any ideas?
[12:32] <kkathman> !nvidia | zgmf-x20a
[12:32] <ubotu> zgmf-x20a: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:33] <kkathman> mattperry1976:  sounds odd - did you change log ins or something?
[12:33] <mattperry1976> nope
[12:33] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: so i have followed the guide on how to go about doing it, but get to the point of installing nivida-config, and nvidia settings, but when i select them it will deselect nvivdia glx and nvidia glx dev
[12:33] <Sanne> dudeicles: konversation is also nice, default irc client for KDE
[12:33] <dudeicles> Sanne: Is it easy to use?
[12:33] <mattperry1976> just restarted today after the standard adept updates etc
[12:33] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: fyi, i am running kubuntu 7.04
[12:34] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  so you didnt enable the restricted modules perhaps ?
[12:34] <kkathman> mattperry1976:  hmm did you reboot after the updates?
[12:34] <Sanne> dudeicles: I find it pretty easy also, with some better features like tab ordering, but it doesn't come with a server list (as of Kubuntu 6.06) like xchat.
[12:35] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: they are enabled from what i can tell.  i did the "Search button and search for "linux-restricted-modules"" and it says they are enabled
[12:36] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  do a dpkg -l | grep nvidia and see if everything got installed
[12:36] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: also, fyi, i found this, but NO idea how to install it.  http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_100.14.09.html
[12:37] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: ok ill do that, one moment