[01:20] <DaveMorri1> superm1: you know where I can get a copy of admin_session from without loading up the livecd, as the one on the disk I made is empty for some reason
[01:20] <superm1> DaveMorri1, its in mythbuntu-default-settings
[01:20] <DaveMorri1> cheers
[01:35] <DaveMorri1> superm1: what VM do you use for mythbuntu testing?
[01:36] <superm1> virtual box
[01:36] <DaveMorri1> is it easy to setup?
[01:36] <superm1> oh ya
[01:36] <superm1> very easy
[01:38] <DaveMorri1> I cna't see it in the repo's
[01:38] <superm1> www.virtualbox.org
[01:57] <yotux> superm1: would you recommend a hd install of the alpha or virtual?
[01:57] <MythbuntuGuest22> ho to all
[01:57] <MythbuntuGuest22> hi
[01:57] <superm1> depends on what you want to do with it yotux
[01:57] <superm1> hi MythbuntuGuest22
[01:58] <MythbuntuGuest22> hi
[01:58] <MythbuntuGuest22> i have only a question to setup mythtvbuntu
[01:59] <yotux> I'll try the hd install get full hardware advantage
[01:59] <MythbuntuGuest22> cani ask?
[01:59] <superm1> k
[01:59] <superm1> sure
[01:59] <superm1> shoot
[01:59] <MythbuntuGuest22> i have connected a TV
[02:00] <MythbuntuGuest22> but how i can change the resolution ?
[02:00] <MythbuntuGuest22> because i no have a monitor
[02:00] <MythbuntuGuest22> connected
[02:00] <MythbuntuGuest22> from command line
[02:00] <superm1> you mean switch it over to use the tv instead?
[02:00] <MythbuntuGuest22> i can do it ?
[02:00] <superm1> or just switch the resolution the tv is useing
[02:01] <MythbuntuGuest22> on TV i can see only command line
[02:01] <MythbuntuGuest22> if i start
[02:01] <MythbuntuGuest22> X
[02:01] <MythbuntuGuest22> i cant see correctly
[02:01] <superm1> well how are you starting X?
[02:01] <superm1> gdm should come up by itself
[02:01] <superm1> right into myth
[02:02] <MythbuntuGuest22> yes gdm start
[02:02] <MythbuntuGuest22> but on tv
[02:02] <MythbuntuGuest22> i see only
[02:02] <MythbuntuGuest22> disturbs
[02:03] <superm1> disturbs?
[02:03] <MythbuntuGuest22> lines
[02:03] <MythbuntuGuest22> colored lines
[02:03] <MythbuntuGuest22> the freq is not ok
[02:03] <superm1> ah i see
[02:04] <superm1> well what you will want to modify is /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:04] <superm1> and you can adjust the resolutions listed in there
[02:04] <MythbuntuGuest22> yes
[02:04] <superm1> followed by issuing a
[02:04] <superm1> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[02:04] <MythbuntuGuest22> yes
[02:05] <MythbuntuGuest22> but i don't know and what change
[02:05] <superm1> well there will be a line that lists a whole bunch of resolutions
[02:05] <MythbuntuGuest22> yes
[02:06] <MythbuntuGuest22> i see
[02:06] <MythbuntuGuest22> many lines are listed
[02:07] <MythbuntuGuest22> how i can do one of this line the default setting when x start ?
[02:08] <MythbuntuGuest22> excuse my english
[02:08] <superm1> huh?
[02:08] <superm1> you mean how do you make a resolution the default resolution?
[02:08] <superm1> just take out any bigger than what you want
[02:08] <MythbuntuGuest22> yes
[02:08] <MythbuntuGuest22> ahh
[02:08] <MythbuntuGuest22> ok
[02:09] <MythbuntuGuest22> i make a copy of xorg.conf
[02:09] <MythbuntuGuest22> and i try to modify
[02:09] <superm1> k
[02:09] <MythbuntuGuest22> ok
[02:09] <MythbuntuGuest22> tomorrow i try
[02:10] <MythbuntuGuest22> thanks
[02:10] <MythbuntuGuest22> bye bye and good night
[02:11] <superm1> okay cya
[02:12] <MythbuntuGuest22> ciao
[02:14] <yotux> is there a place  that I can read about install issues?
[02:14] <superm1> yotux, there are two known issues with the installer
[02:15] <superm1> posted on the front page of mythbuntu.org
[02:15] <superm1> regarding VNC with a language other than english and with proprietary drivers
[02:15] <yotux> thankz I am just about to moive over the other box to start the install went to lunch and now its time to play
[02:18] <yotux> does mythbuntu allow the public to register on your site?
[02:19] <yotux> I looks like a joomla install aka CMS client
[02:19] <superm1> its a drupal install
[02:19] <superm1> we dont do public reg on it
[02:19] <superm1> that's just for all of us that manage it
[02:21] <yotux> How can I help you guys out
[02:21] <superm1> if you can mirror, that'd be awesome:  but testing it and catching things wrong
[02:21] <superm1> is what we need
[02:27] <yotux> have a q about partitioning
[02:28] <yotux> try to get the most bang for the buck,  shous I have /, /home, and /var?
[02:28] <superm1> one drive?
[02:28] <superm1> or two
[02:28] <yotux> shous = should
[02:28] <yotux> 1 right now
[02:29] <yotux> Will have a 2 - 4 by end of the year
[02:29] <yotux> SATA possible 2TB system
[02:29] <superm1> i'd go for ~10g for / for now, and then /var on the rest
[02:29] <yotux> so there isn't a need for a /home?
[02:30] <yotux> Sorry right know my desktop is / 10g /swap 2gb /home rest
[02:31] <yotux> is all of the media going to be stored in /var?
[02:31] <superm1> yes
[02:31] <superm1>  /home won't be more than 100mb
[02:31] <superm1> or so
[02:31] <yotux> ok so home will be mirco
[02:31] <yotux> currently have 300 SATA it will last a couple of days I hope
[02:33] <superm1> should be
[02:36] <yotux> var as ext3 or something like reisfs / xfs
[02:38] <superm1> xfs
[02:38] <yotux> thankz for helping the newbie
[02:46] <MythbuntuGuest70> what version of mythtv is alpha 4 using?
[02:47] <superm1> 0.20.2
[02:48] <MythbuntuGuest70> thx much :)
[02:59] <yotux> I think I found a bug where do I report it
[03:05] <superm1> what'd you find?
[03:05] <superm1> http://launchpad.net/mythbuntu
[03:05] <superm1> is where reports should be filed
[03:08] <yotux> partition setup
[03:09] <superm1> well that is an upstream ubiquity item
[03:09] <superm1> so that may be more appropriate to file against ubiquity then
[03:10] <yotux> ok, drive geometry is off and can't select mount point from menu
[03:10] <superm1> yea file it directly against ubiquity then
[03:20] <keescook> superm1: heya, have you seen this before?
[03:20] <keescook> 2007-09-08 18:13:14.043 DataDirect, Error: UpdateProgramViewTable no dd_state!
[03:20] <superm1> keescook, No can't say i have.
[03:21] <keescook> dmandell has run into this on his update.
[03:21] <dmandell> I'm seeing it after updating.
[03:21] <superm1> that's from mythfilldatabase?
[03:21] <keescook> superm1: yeah
[03:21] <dmandell> I didn't delete my input sources, I just changed them to Schedules Direct and entered the new username/password
[03:22] <superm1> yea usually that's all you need to do
[03:22] <keescook> dmandell: that's correct; I did it that way too
[03:22] <superm1> is the data intact?
[03:22] <superm1> and functional?
[03:22] <dmandell> how would I check?
[03:22] <superm1> well open up mythweb or mythfrontend
[03:22] <superm1> and see if you've got guide data
[03:23] <dmandell> Ah, I see, no guide data except for that which I had previously
[03:23] <superm1> that's how mine was too.  i didn't get data for 1-2 days
[03:24] <keescook> dmandell: did you do a "retrieve lineups" when you entered your SD info?
[03:24] <dmandell> yes, as I have two different lineups I use (standard def and hi def).
[03:25] <dmandell> Made sure I retreived lineups and had selected the right ones.
[03:26] <dmandell> "Data Direct Lineup" shows both of the lineups I'd set up from SchedulesDirect, they're obviously different than the old ones.
[03:27] <dmandell> Here's what I see when I run mythfilldatabase
[03:27] <dmandell> 2007-09-08 18:13:41.303 Checking day @ offset 10, date: Tue Sep 18 2007
[03:27] <dmandell> 2007-09-08 18:13:41.303 Data Refresh needed because of --refresh-all
[03:27] <dmandell> 2007-09-08 18:13:41.303 Refreshing data for Tue Sep 18 2007
[03:27] <dmandell> 2007-09-08 18:13:41.303 This DataDirect listings source is shared by 2 MythTV lineups
[03:27] <dmandell> 2007-09-08 18:13:41.303 We should use cached data for this one
[03:27] <dmandell> 2007-09-08 18:13:41.303 Retrieving datadirect data.
[03:27] <dmandell> 2007-09-08 18:13:41.303 Grabbing data for Sat Sep 8 2007 offset 10
[03:27] <dmandell> 2007-09-08 18:13:41.303 From Tue Sep 18 07:00:00 2007 to Wed Sep 19 07:00:00 2007 (UTC)
[03:27] <dmandell> 2007-09-08 18:13:41.303 Grabbing listing data
[03:27] <dmandell> 2007-09-08 18:13:41.303 DataDirect: Copying from DD cache
[03:27] <dmandell> 2007-09-08 18:13:41.340 DataDirect: Your subscription expires on 09/15/2007 05:24:59 PM
[03:27] <dmandell> 2007-09-08 18:13:42.811 Grab complete.  Actual data from Tue Sep 18 07:00:00 2007 to Wed Sep 19 07:00:00 2007 (UTC)
[03:27] <dmandell> 2007-09-08 18:13:42.811 Main temp tables populated.
[03:27] <dmandell> 2007-09-08 18:13:42.812 DataDirect, Error: UpdateProgramViewTable no dd_state!
[03:27] <dmandell> 2007-09-08 18:13:42.812 Did not find any new program data.
[03:27] <superm1> !pastebin | dmandell
[03:28] <ubotu> dmandell: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:28] <dmandell> Thanks.
[03:28] <dmandell> (and sorry)
[03:29] <keescook> hm
[03:29] <superm1> dmandell, you might need to bring this into #mythtv-users or to the mythtv mailing list, i'm really not too sure myself.
[03:29] <keescook> stupid question: did you shutdown your backend before running this?
[03:30] <dmandell> I'm pretty sure you have to shut down the backend before running mythtv-setup
[03:30] <keescook> you do; but was just checking.  Did you see any errors during the apt-get ?
[03:32] <dmandell> none
[03:32] <keescook> http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2007-September/192357.html   has the same error...
[03:33] <keescook> dmandell: can you pastebin your entire mythfill output?
[03:33] <dmandell> sure
[03:33] <dmandell> sure
[03:37] <keescook> dmandell: this might go away after a few days -- the "dd_state" table seems to be a temporary table that gets built during the new data download
[03:41] <keescook> dmandell: http://forums.schedulesdirect.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=285
[03:41] <keescook> looks like a temporary glitch with some lineups.
[03:42] <keescook> it seems you're just "lucky" :P
[03:42] <dmandell> Oh good!
[03:43] <keescook> yeah, no worries; it sounds like this will go away (and you've still got data from pre-SD for a few more days...)
[03:54] <dmandell> thanks for your help superm1, if this continues to be a problem I'll ask the mythtv mailing list.
[03:54] <superm1> no prob dmandell, sorry i couldnt be more helpful myself
[04:06] <keescook> superm1: are you going to be at UDS?  I need to buy you lots of beers.  :)
[04:07] <superm1> keescook, I got the invite, but i need to make sure i can take off courses that week
[04:07] <superm1> i believe i have a test on Monday at least
[04:07] <keescook> eek
[04:07] <superm1> so i'll know in a week or so
[04:07] <keescook> well, maybe come for a portion of it if not the whole thing?
[04:07] <superm1> yea that was what i was thinking
[04:07] <superm1> i want to at least be able to come for some of the installer discussion
[04:08] <keescook> cool.  well, regardless, whenever I see you again, beer's on me.  :)
[04:08] <superm1> awesome
[04:08] <superm1> :)
[04:08] <keescook> :)
[04:09] <superm1> night
[05:40] <MythbuntuGuest50> hello hello?
[05:41] <MythbuntuGuest50> anyone active here?
[05:42] <MythbuntuGuest50> Hmmph.  Unfortunate.
[05:43] <superm1> hey
[05:43] <superm1> what's going on?
[05:43] <MythbuntuGuest50> ah hah
[05:43] <MythbuntuGuest50> nothing much quick question
[05:43] <MythbuntuGuest50> does the newest build of mythbuntu handle schedule direct natively?
[05:43] <superm1> yes
[05:43] <MythbuntuGuest50> fantastic
[05:43] <MythbuntuGuest50> my mythbox has been crapping out on me and I look forward to reinstalling with mythbuntu
[05:44] <superm1> hopefully things go smoothly :)
[05:44] <superm1> watch out, there are a few known issues with the build fyi, they are on the front page of mythbuntu.or
[05:44] <MythbuntuGuest50> yeah.  Before the listings died I was wrestling with lirc and almost got it...
[05:44] <superm1> mythbuntu.org
[05:44] <MythbuntuGuest50> does the non-alpha build also support schedule direct?
[05:44] <superm1> non alpha?
[05:44] <superm1> we dont have a release yet :)
[05:44] <MythbuntuGuest50> um non gutsy
[05:45] <superm1> first release is in oct/nov
[05:45] <MythbuntuGuest50> *looks more carefully*
[05:45] <MythbuntuGuest50> doh.
[05:45] <MythbuntuGuest50> well, heck, thanks anyway.  I'd imagine that mythbuntu will still probably be easier than reinstalling with vanilla ubuntu
[05:45] <superm1> you can get schedules direct/0.20.2 support with straight feisty too though, see the post in the topic
[05:45] <superm1> it is much easier than vanilla ubuntu
[05:46] <superm1> that's the goal for it
[05:46] <MythbuntuGuest50> hmm.
[05:46] <MythbuntuGuest50> I had tried a few techniques for getting SD to work, and they all failed.
[05:46] <MythbuntuGuest50> but
[05:46] <MythbuntuGuest50> several other things were going wrong at the same time
[05:46] <MythbuntuGuest50> GDM was crashing on startup, and once I installed kubuntu-desktop it broke mythtv
[05:46] <MythbuntuGuest50> so I'll start afresh
[05:47] <MythbuntuGuest50> but thank you for the response.  Adios, friend.
[05:47] <superm1> night
[06:27] <batrix> hello anyone alive in here?
[09:40] <mactenchi> i hate to ask, but what's going on with 0.20.2?  i see the bug is marked fixed, but it's not available on updates
[09:52] <superm1> mactenchi, the way the policy works it has to be incubating for 7 days
[09:52] <superm1> in -proposed
[09:52] <superm1> there was some stuff that was changed after the initial upload
[09:52] <superm1> a few days ago
[09:52] <superm1> so the 7 day counter started over
[09:52] <mactenchi> ah, i see
[10:55] <denbeiren> good morning
[10:58] <denbeiren> i'm having some problems with vnc and amdcclr,.. could anyone help out?
[12:30] <denbeiren> anyone home?
[02:14] <laga> re
[03:14] <laga> superm1: i'm adding support for the themes packages to the weekly build script (they, get fixes, too!).
[03:14] <laga> superm1: it'll be disabled by default for -fixes, though.
[03:42] <laga> superm1: just committed the changes, so watch out for borkage :) should be good, though
[06:58] <superm1> laga, so does it build a themes package too then?
[06:58] <superm1> and submit it to PPA now?
[07:15] <juliux> hi all
[07:15] <juliux> i have a major problem, if i trun scan on a terminal it founds 28 channels in around a minute, if i run the channel scan in mythtv-setup it need more then 10mins and found no channels
[07:16] <superm1> mornin
[07:16] <juliux> no channels is not right mythtv founds sometime one or two
[07:16] <juliux> any hints?
[07:20] <juliux> the status is also allways no lock and the led on the stick is always orange, if i run scan it change to green
[07:26] <Daviey> superm1: Have i lost access to mythbuntu.org?
[07:26] <superm1> access?
[07:26] <Daviey> yep
[07:26] <superm1> as in the site is timing out?
[07:26] <Daviey> $ ssh mythbuntu@mythbuntu.org  <----- ASKING ME FOR PASSWORD
[07:26] <superm1> or you can't login?
[07:26] <Daviey> Sorry for caps
[07:28] <superm1> well its going fairly slow for me, but your public key is tstill there
[07:28] <superm1> for dave@dave-laptop
[07:28] <Daviey> Hmm
[07:28] <Daviey> still asking for password
[07:28] <Daviey> hmm
[07:28] <superm1> did your ssh key change?
[07:29] <Daviey> don't think so...
[07:29] <Daviey> oh... maybe
[07:30] <Daviey> superm1: doh.. i accidently dropped my pub/private key
[07:30] <superm1> that'dc do it
[07:31] <Daviey> Can you add a new one please?
[07:31] <Daviey> I need to remove ubuntu-uuk temp as a mirror
[07:32] <Daviey> $ cat /home/dave/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
[07:32] <Daviey> ssh-rsa AAAAB3NzaC1yc2EAAAABIwAAAQEA1GHCKZagc+ocgbv9IQR8aUONhCE37sHDNsv3fMVbcFWF7O6TvtWwX2CY+BBACTq4h8Uazmz+CraOW4lNxS+4D6G528g6NWxnB9bCAm0inw9+bDRHSqEeo29pD7o17Ti+8XZ9esqYwQe65KNLn3LJ6raI1rqYyQPfeStGCzvODen1pSA1X20x4/fTWfxPEOHkYps0BXi2T9AAVmMhNQnOJNR3Yqunm5TLxyXqyHpjtatoS5CbICsU0Xcm7AJcFoRkn/NOokZ8MQQxWsxB3VXy2NgvwwfKJcUtXBpTzC9g65XhS/1QMcgIKfSUZB66yEQe1kgyrY6r1GtG9GKOBeB8kQ== dave@dave-desktop
[07:33] <juliux> fuck i get an segmentation fault from mythtv
[07:34] <superm1> Daviey, okay should be added
[07:34] <Daviey> superm1: tahnks
[07:34] <Daviey> works
[07:34] <superm1> juliux, what are you scanning with?
[07:34] <juliux> superm1, with mythtv and scan
[07:34] <juliux> tu18hh
[07:34] <superm1> i mean hardware
[07:35] <juliux> a freecome usb dvb-t stick
[07:35] <superm1> can you try scanning outside myth and figure out whether the thing is picking up anything outside?
[07:36] <juliux> if i use scan /usr/share/doc/dvb-utils/examples/scan/dvb-t/de-Hannover everything is working well
[07:36] <juliux> also if i use kaffeine
[07:38] <superm1> perhaps you will just want to import a channels.conf then
[07:38] <juliux> hm that was not working last time
[07:40] <juliux> superm1, i will test the stick on an other computer
[07:40] <superm1> k
[07:41] <juliux> http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/14762/ i get this errors during the scan with scan on the terminal
[07:43] <superm1> oooh pretty
[07:51] <juliux> http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/14763/ that is from dmesg
[08:08] <tgm4883> wtf is this https://answers.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+question/13070
[08:08] <superm1> yea i saw that too
[08:08] <superm1> i dunno
[08:08] <tgm4883> I just rejected it
[08:10] <Daviey> :`(
[08:10] <superm1> Daviey, how much was put out bw wise from it?
[08:11] <troy_s> superm1: If you see foxbuntu tell him to check his email for me would you?
[08:11] <Daviey> 37Gb ijsut under 3 days
[08:11] <superm1> sure
[08:11] <Daviey> in just under
[08:11] <superm1> whew
[08:12] <tgm4883> superm1, did you see this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/137878
[08:12] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 137878 in mythbuntu "Limited maximum partition size at installation" [Undecided,New] 
[08:12] <Daviey> Seems the bw throttling didn't work on their box
[08:12] <tgm4883> I seem to remember having that same problem when I was installing feisty alpha
[08:13] <superm1> its something wrong with upstream ubiquity i believe
[08:13] <superm1> because we're not changing anything in the partitioner
[08:15] <tgm4883> i agree
[08:58] <laga> superm1: it does build a theme package, but i haven't added the dput parts yet. that's not hard, though
[09:01] <laga>  tgm4883 heh, your reply to the "is very fast" question just made me laugh out loud
[09:02] <tgm4883> heh, well I thought that the question didn't have much content, so the answer shouldn't have much content either.
[09:03] <laga> i'd have gone for "lol kthx", but yours works as well
[09:03] <tgm4883> I should have signed their email address up for some porn sites
[09:05] <laga> i need to make the GF get a faster net connection.
[09:09] <juliux_> superm1, i have played around a bit with my freecome stick, on my feisty systems i get always a WARNING: filter timeout pid 0x0010 during a scan, on my feisty with v4l-experimental build from source i haven t seen this error until now
[09:33] <MythbuntuGuest64> I installed Mythbuntu 7.10 Public Alpha 4, and it appears that there is no pre-built ivtv-fb module included
[09:33] <MythbuntuGuest64> Is ivtv-fb going away?
[09:40] <laga> MythbuntuGuest64: was it included in feisty?
[09:54] <MythbuntuGuest64> it is part of the linux image 2.6.20-15-generic from feisty
[09:55] <MythbuntuGuest64> baked right into linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic
[09:57] <MythbuntuGuest64> I believe it is part of the normal ivtv (0.10.x) build
[09:58] <MythbuntuGuest64> So I was surprised it didn't get into the gutsy linux image packages... I guess maybe it's time to file a bug against the gutsy linux image package
[10:47] <elmargol> Hi. I have one of those usb dongles included with Technisat SkyStar2. How do I configure the remote? Someone on the forums says that this is detected as a keyboard and I don't need lirc
[12:04] <DaveMorris> superm1: evening
[12:05] <DaveMorris> my latest builds are having problems with initializing GTK, is that something I've done ?
[12:05] <DaveMorris> basically /usr/bin/displayconfig-restore isn't found
[12:09] <superm1> evenin
[12:09] <superm1> DaveMorris, i'd anticipate no
[12:09] <superm1> more likely think its because of bulletproofx
[12:09] <superm1> and needing to install displayconfig-gtk
[12:10] <superm1> looks like we need to depend on that now
[12:13] <superm1> DaveMorris, try to install kde-guidance
[12:14] <DaveMorris> ok I'll have a look
[12:14] <superm1> when exactly do you get that error?
[12:14] <superm1> during boot?
[12:31] <DaveMorris> no, when it tries to load into X, my X session lasts less than 10 secs and thats what the error message is moaning about
[12:31] <superm1> hm odd
[12:33] <DaveMorris> Gtk_WARNING ** This process is currently running setuid or setgid.  This is not supported use of GTK+.  You must create a helper program instead.  Refusing to initialise GTK+
[12:33] <superm1> what program is it trying to launch?
[12:33] <superm1> where its doing that
[12:41] <DaveMorris> it's trying to log into my X session, I've tried various session types, but it always does that
[12:42] <superm1> hmm weird.