[01:41] <Asshat> fds
[01:41] <Asshat> sdf
[01:41] <Asshat> s
[01:41] <Asshat> df
[01:41] <Asshat> sfd
[01:41] <Asshat> sdf
[01:41] <Asshat> fsd
[01:41] <Asshat> fds
[01:42] <Asshat> fds
[01:42] <Asshat> fsd
[01:42] <Asshat> fd
[01:42] <Asshat> fh
[01:42] <Asshat> df
[01:42] <Asshat> hhds
[01:42] <Asshat> gdg
[01:42] <Asshat> g
[01:42] <Asshat> ghs
[01:42] <Asshat> gh
[01:42] <Asshat> gh
[01:42] <Asshat> ss
[01:42] <Asshat> gh
[01:42] <Asshat> dsf
[01:42] <Asshat> \sdf
[02:36] <Catoptromancy> that guys name fit him well
[02:38] <nikolam> who`s?
[02:39] <nikolam> Hat? :)
[02:52] <figmentj13> hi room
[02:52] <nikolam> hi
[02:53] <figmentj13> i could really use some help
 i coud ....  help
[02:53] <figmentj13> really
[02:53] <figmentj13> ?
[02:53] <nikolam> I am just echo :)
[02:53] <nikolam> shoot
[02:54] <figmentj13> well um i just trying to get my win mobile 5 phone to sync with evo
[02:54] <figmentj13> i can't seem to get it to work
[02:55] <figmentj13> i get stuck at synce-start-config
[02:56] <figmentj13> i dont know if its drivers or what
[02:58] <figmentj13> hello?
[03:02] <figmentj13> hi everyone
[03:14] <nikolam> I know that Open Office have some add-on that could be installed throughout Synaptic on ubuntu, that connects Evolution contacts with OpenOffice
[03:15] <nikolam> In what format you can export win mobile 5 contacts?
[03:15] <nikolam> Do you want to export/import or synchronize?
[03:16] <nikolam> openoffice.org-evolution
[03:34] <figmentj13> oh
[03:34] <figmentj13> are you taking to me?
[03:35] <figmentj13> ill look up Synaptic
[03:36] <figmentj13> but all i am really trying to do is get the config properly done so i can use multisync and synce
[03:36] <figmentj13> to evo will skip the open office step
[03:43] <nikolam> Good luck never used it, just a thought.
[03:48] <Kr4t05|Lap> So... I can't seem to be able to SSH into my remote box. Even from within the network.
[03:52] <Kr4t05|Lap> openssh-server is installed onto the server, and I can SSH into it with localhost.
[03:52] <Kr4t05|Lap> However, when I try to SSH in to it from the laptop, the connection times out.
[04:04] <Kr4t05|Lap> nixternal, You busy?
[04:05] <nixternal> yo?
[04:22] <numus> anyone install ndiswrapper to get a wpc11 v4 to run and now how to get ndiswrapper to work on startup
[04:56] <Yuzzy> CanMt get my Xubuntu LiveCD to boot on an old 200 mmx 64ram.. process stops after a while...anyone?
[05:35] <tonyyarusso> Yuzzy: define "stops"
[05:37] <tonyyarusso> (btw, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems)
[05:37] <tonyyarusso> Yuzzy: It may appear to hang for a significant period.  Try just leaving it for a good long while.  Have plenty of swap space set aside as well.
[05:46] <aztec13> ?connect #xubuntu-espanol
[06:01] <xork> i am regged & identified.. why is it saying otherwise?
[06:10] <The-Kernel> xork: /msg nickserv identify <password>
[06:11] <xork> The-Kernel: thanks.. something got messed up in an #ubuntu flood
[06:11] <xork> The-Kernel: i just restarted my client.. seem to be good now
[06:15] <Ben_Cs> The-Kernel: didn't see where i can add "eject" in gtkpod. (i made a button for it on the pannel but still....)
[06:17] <Bausch> In Thunar, is it possible to zoom out even farther than what's allowed? Icons/rows still feel too big when in "detailed list" view
[06:20] <Ghostvirus> Bausch: other than making the system font smaller, i don't think so
[06:21] <Bausch> Ghostvirus: I have tried making fonts smaller but the icon sizes stayed the same, http://i2.tinypic.com/4r7s9q9.png
[06:22] <Ben_Cs> Bausch: you can always rize the resolution
[06:23] <Bausch> Ben_Cs: What do you mean? Change the value of my DPI setting?
[06:23] <Ben_Cs> Bausch: yes
[06:24] <Ben_Cs> like lets say 1280x1024 or higher
[06:24] <Bausch> Ben_Cs: It's set to 96 at the moment and I have a 1280x1024  17" display
[06:25] <Ben_Cs> hmmm. why do you want the icons in thunar to be microscopic then?
[06:26] <Bausch> I just want to be able to see more files in Thunar when viewing in list view
[06:26] <Bausch> Setting my font size to 6 was just an exageration of what's going on, heh
[06:27] <Ghostvirus> sounds like you need a way to hide the icons
[06:27] <Bausch> But yeah, ideally I want the sizes of icons to be the same height as text at 9pt font
[06:28] <Bausch> Ghostvirus: Is that easy to toggle?
[06:29] <Ghostvirus> Bausch: No. It's not in Thunar's options. I imagine you'd have to patch it or something.
[06:30] <Bausch> Ah well maybe I'll just try to live with it for now.
[06:32] <Ghostvirus> Bausch: is there a particular reason you want to view so many files all at once?
[06:32] <Bausch> Yeah, mostly to browse my mp3 directories because there is no real "good" media player with a media library function
[06:33] <Ghostvirus> what apps have you tried?
[06:33] <Bausch> I have tried Amarok but it didn't feel "right" in gtk/xfce. So I also installed Meta Tracker hoping it can index all my files so I can search for mp3s easily
[06:33] <Bausch> But I can't figure out how to use wildcards, and there's no documentation about wildcards anywhere on the web
[06:34] <Ghostvirus> if you haven't already, you should try quod libet
[06:34] <Ghostvirus> i used to use it and it was really nice
[06:35] <Bausch> Does it allow itself to be controlled from the command line?
[06:35] <Bausch> I'm used to winamp's global hotkeys and to do the same thing in audacious i can bind a key to "audtool seekrelative +20" etc
[06:36] <Ghostvirus> hm, i don't know. i never tried.
[06:37] <Bausch> hm, well perhaps you can help me with one other question I have
[06:38] <Ghostvirus> i use audacious now, mostly because i don't have enough music to warrant using a library-based player
[06:38] <Bausch> When browsing in detailed list view, is it possible to use the keyboard to change what order to sort things by?
[06:38] <Bausch> I can edit the menu accelerator in icon view to bind key combos, but those keycombos only work in icon view, not detailed list
[06:39] <Bausch> If I can make thunar save the view setting for each directory, that would work as well
[06:40] <Ghostvirus> i'm not sure thunar can save different view settings for different directories
[06:41] <Bausch> I think i read the same thing somewhere on the xfce mailing list, that's why I was hoping the other thign I was trying to do was possible
[06:41] <Bausch> lol
[06:42] <Ghostvirus> yeah, thunar's pretty minimal, but then again it's meant to be
[06:42] <Bausch> Yeah but things like integrated search would be really useful
[06:43] <Bausch> I hate having to start up nautilus --no-desktop every time I want to do something a little more complicated
[06:43] <Ghostvirus> well, the whole philosophy behind it is "it's a file manager, and only a file manager"
[06:44] <Ghostvirus> if you want a gui for searching, catfish is pretty handy
[06:45] <Bausch> Yeah it works pretty well. My only complaint is it still doesn't allow me to use wildcards on metatracker or beagle
[06:45] <Bausch> (and strangely beagle does allow wildcards now, but catfish refuses and it says that wildcards are not supported for that backend)
[06:45] <Bausch> Maybe I should see if there's a newer version now
[06:46] <Bausch> Ghostvirus: Do you have any experience customizing the tasks list panel?
[06:47] <Ghostvirus> a little
[06:47] <Bausch> I want to be able to right click on a task and use the keyboard to send a task to a certain workspace
[06:47] <Bausch> Like if you right click on a task and press X it will maximize
[06:47] <Bausch> But "send to.." does not have this
[06:48] <Ghostvirus> hm, you like keyboard shortcuts, you're asking the wrong guy! i pretty much use point and click for everything except for text editors and some graphics apps
[06:49] <Ghostvirus> so i'm not really knowledgeable about shortcuts
[06:49] <Bausch> haha yeah I like having one hand on the keyboard and one hand on the mouse, but I can live without being able to do ^^^^^
[06:50] <Bausch> Other than the things I just mentioned I think xfce is perfect
[06:50] <Bausch> Still some glitches with mounting my ipod but that's no biggie
[06:50] <Ghostvirus> yeah, i'm very gui-oriented for interacting with the desktop in general, specific apps might be a different story
[06:52] <Ghostvirus> what's wrong with the ipod?
[06:53] <Bausch> It just makes thunar hang, usually I use xkill to kill it then try opening thunar again
[06:53] <Bausch> This would repeat for a few times until I can finally browse my files
[06:53] <aztec13> baush i use xfce religiously and never had any problems mounting it's UN mounting ive had trouble
[06:54] <Bausch> I use rockbox btw
[06:54] <Bausch> I thikn what's going on is the ipod's firmware gets mounted as a separate device
[06:54] <Bausch> Because whatn it finally gets mounted I see two devices and there's some reports of the same bug happening
[06:54] <aztec13> i cant get it to properly unmount that the player's screen returns to useable view
[06:55] <aztec13> like it did under Xp
[06:55] <Bausch> aztec13: does the ipod show up as two devices when you mount it? are you using apple's firmware?
[06:56] <aztec13> ive read that it can be done by clicking on the icon and sure it says unmount but it still never does return the player to unmounted
[06:56] <aztec13> actually sorry not a real ipod mines a Chipod :)
[06:57] <aztec13> but no double  no
[06:58] <aztec13> as a matter of fact my player is on the fritz right now
[06:58] <Bausch> I should really update my rockbox too, the software i'm using is almost a year old
[06:58] <aztec13> its reading format error and i lost half my files
[06:58] <Bausch> Maybe that's the problem lol
[06:58] <Bausch> regarding me
[06:58] <aztec13>  and i cand find how to reformat under ubuntu?
[06:58] <Ghostvirus> Bausch: yeah, upgrade your firmware!
[06:59] <aztec13> i do have a couple of commands to get me started from someone
[06:59] <aztec13> but thats it
[07:00] <aztec13> i went and checked them out in manpages and it said one of them wasnt for mountable discs so i dont know why i was given it
[07:00] <aztec13> it made me think twice about the advice all together
[07:00] <Ghostvirus> aztec13: you mean reformat your ipod?
[07:00] <aztec13> chipod yes reformat my chipod?
[07:00] <Bausch> is it fat32?
[07:01] <Bausch> Don't most chipods just behave like an ordinary usb drive?
[07:01] <aztec13> that would be widows
[07:01] <Ghostvirus> most usb devices are formatted for fat32
[07:02] <aztec13>  and actually i took it down the mountain to the internet cafe and did it with xp and it said it worked but just as qik a box popped upen saying it was done
[07:02] <Bausch> I think that's normal for doing "quick format"
[07:02] <aztec13> i have done it before so i know what it looks like when it really is done and this wasnt it
[07:02] <Bausch> Maybe you should try the thorough (?) mode
[07:03] <aztec13> so i really want to try under linux somehow since xp didnt do anything
[07:04] <aztec13> i think possibly it coulld be due to the fact i forget to unplug my player when i turn my system off and start it up.i know thats not good for it
[07:04] <aztec13> whats the thorough mode?
[07:05] <Bausch> try "fdisk -l" as root
[07:05] <Bausch> it will tell you the file systems of your drives
[07:05] <Bausch> aztec13: iirc windows let you format things in two ways the fast one just creates a new file system and the other one does something more, i'm not too experienced with this
[07:06] <Ghostvirus> i found this link. seems a little in-depth: http://www.3till7.net/2007/04/19/how-to-reformat-your-pen-drive/
[07:06] <Bausch> But I suggest checking what file system your chipod uses, if it's fat32 then format it as if it's an ordinary fat32 drive
[07:07] <Bausch> I hope he didn't crash lol
[07:07] <Ghostvirus> hrm
[07:13] <Ghostvirus> well, i'm off
[08:08] <figmentj13> hello
[09:01] <v1k1ng> hey, does bitchx have a gui interface or does it only run graphically?
[09:02] <v1k1ng> er, i mean in text?
[09:07] <kdchapman1776> I need some help with connecting wirelessly.  I am a noob but I think have things configured close to right.  I have a linksys WPC54G card configured to use ndiswrapper.  I can see the wlan0 adapter and had trouble with dhcp so decided to go static IP.  I am still having trouble connecting to my router.  I need some help.
[09:10] <v1k1ng> hey kd
[09:10] <v1k1ng> it's pretty quiet in here
[09:10] <kdchapman1776> Hi vl....yes it is quiet...
[09:11] <v1k1ng> you might wanna try #ubuntu
[09:11] <kdchapman1776> I was just thinking of that.  I will do that.  Thanks.
[01:31] <nikolam> Hello
[01:32] <nikolam> Thunar/gam_server is killing my machine
[01:32] <nikolam> it uses 99% of cpu time
[01:32] <nikolam> And making directories takes 10 minutes
[01:33] <Snoopotic> hi
[01:34] <nikolam> hi
[01:35] <Ramla> nikolam: kill it, and try again
[01:35] <nikolam> I am killing it every day, 5 times a day
[01:36] <nikolam> Same behavior on P3-700 and Athlon64 x2-4000+
[01:36] <Ramla> I've found especially showing/hiding hidden files&folders makes thunar very unstable
[01:36] <nikolam> I also
[01:37] <nikolam> if i turn of showing hidden directories, everything goes to h**** beacouse of gam_server I suppose
[01:38] <nikolam> Same goes if I view even single directory with dot in its name (~/.gaim for instance)
[01:38] <Snoopotic> i have a problem :D in the desktop-settings (my german version calls it "arbeitsplatz-Einstellungen") I have "let xfce handle setup" enabled (the upper checkbox)... errm the prblem is the scond tab: symbols on desktop: I have "symbols for files/starter" checked. and ONLY the checkboxes "Show icons for:" --> home & trash checked. BUT on desktop are still symbols for all partitions (filesystem) and the removable devices. :/
[01:38] <Ramla> http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2502
[01:38] <ubotu> XFCE bug 2502 in core "Crashes & Freezes if "show hidden files" is switched on/off" [Critical,Assigned] 
[01:39] <nikolam> Snooptic: logoff and logon after adjusting icons on desktop.
[01:39] <Snoopotic> hmm ok
[01:40] <Snoopotic> and... what is the common device for a wlan.adapter ?
[01:40] <Snoopotic> forgot it :D
[01:40] <Snoopotic> r* sth
[01:41] <Snoopotic> rtc ?
[02:01] <Alver> Hello there. What is the advisable way to force xubuntu to use proper refresh rates on a monitor?
[02:02] <Alver> The gui tool lists a load of ridiculous modes (up to 320x200 or something), and none of them have a refresh rate over 60
[02:02] <Alver> I tried using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and set the monitor type to 1024x768 at 75Hz but to no effect apparently.
[02:04] <nikolam> Alver: Check what graphics driver you are using
[02:04] <nikolam> And what is your graphics card
[02:05] <nikolam> Section "Device"
[02:05] <nikolam> 	Driver		"???"
[02:06] <nikolam> Before you change driver you can try "vesa" for start
[02:06] <nikolam> Then install driver and after that go again to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select it
[02:07] <nikolam> Also check your monitor frequency ranges during that
[02:12] <nikolam> hi
[02:13] <nikolam> My evince (Document viewer) and Open office stoped working
[02:14] <nikolam> How do I check if and what libraries are/are not ok and why thet do not start?
[02:16] <Snoopotic> is there a gui-tool for wlanb-administration?
[02:16] <Snoopotic> I have several wlan-networks and liek to switch easily :D
[02:39] <Alver> Snoopotic: there's NetworkManager
[02:39] <Alver> It's supposed to be able to do that
[02:39] <Alver> I can't say I've used it much, by the time they supposedly got it working properly I had already written my own set of scripts to do that
[02:40] <Alver> By the way, how do I add applications to the top menu bar thingy?
[02:41] <Alver> There's already firefox and 'home' there, I'd like some others to be there too
[04:17] <Snoopotic> hehe Alver yes Im also still trying it out ^^ :D just dragn drop wont work :D
[04:33] <TheSheep> right, click, select 'add item', select launcher
[04:35] <shirish> hi all, any people who are into xarchiver?
[04:39] <gerro> shirish: what about it?
[04:39] <shirish> gerro: oh, nothing just I put up a bug report about it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xarchiver/+bug/138420
[04:39] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 138420 in xarchiver "Have an option to recursively add files & folder to archive" [Undecided,New] 
[04:40] <Kilroo> Hmm.
[04:40] <shirish> dunno if this should be tagged as a wishlist or what?
[04:40] <Kilroo> What's the search utility (the one that can search for files containing specified text) that comes in Xubuntu?
[04:41] <Kilroo> I've somehow gotten rid of it, apparently.
[04:41] <gerro> Kilroo: open xfce4-terminal and do updatedb as root then use locate
[04:41] <gerro> kilroo: that works on nearly every distro
[04:42] <Kilroo> I was looking for the gui I was using before, though...
[04:42] <shirish> Kilroo: tracker perhaps?
[04:42] <gerro> if you go through command prompt can probably specify seach parameters in better detail too
[04:43] <gerro> oh wait you mean that desk applet you can enter stuff in?
[04:43] <gerro> don't know about that
[04:44] <Kilroo> Yeah, I think that's the one I mean.
[04:46] <Kilroo> I'm using xffm-find as a pseudo-replacement, but it's a pain in the nether regions to open the files once it's found them. The one that was in Xubuntu when I installed it, I'm sorry to admit, I liked because it worked pretty much like the Windows search utility, which is the kind of ease of use I was looking for.
[04:47] <Kilroo> I wasn't under the impression that it was doing this indexing business...I gave it a directory and a string to match and said "go." But I suppose it might have been.
[04:48] <Kilroo> Far as I can tell, it disappeared when I did a sudo aptitude -f install due to having misunderstood part of a guide for accomplishing something or other.
[05:00] <Kilroo> I had kind of hoped that at least finding out what it IS would be fairly simple if anyone had a fresh enough install of Xubuntu that the utility was still there.
[05:03] <TheSheep> Kilroo: metatracker?
[05:04] <TheSheep> Kilroo: or the catfish?
[05:07] <Kilroo> I suppose my best guess so far is that it was Catfish, I think. The screenshots seem the closest. I just really hadn't thought it was using an indexing thing (don't know WHY I assumed that, really) and I haven't come across any way to make Catfish do a full-text search without some sort of indexing thing. If Catfish would use fgr that'd be just about perfect for my purposes.
[05:10] <wlfwhiterabbit> hi! how can i see how much ram is being used?
[05:12] <TheSheep> wlfwhiterabbit: linux always uses all the ram available
[05:13] <wlfwhiterabbit> if i write "free" in a shell and then press "enter" i have the answer i'm searching for
[05:13] <Kilroo> There's the system load monitor for the xfce toolbars...
[05:13] <TheSheep> Kilroo: I think that catfish can use metatracker under the hood, which in yurn uses index
[05:13] <Ben_Cs> TheSheep: eventually yes
[05:13] <TheSheep> Ben_Cs: no, it always uses all the ram
[05:14] <Kilroo> But for some reason it can only show these little graphical representations. I kinda miss xLabel and xStatsClass.
[05:14] <TheSheep> s/yurn/turn
[05:14] <Ben_Cs> TheSheep: it doesn't cache all the MEM at once. When you use apps, then it casches. no?
[05:14] <TheSheep> Ben_Cs: "cache"?
[05:15] <TheSheep> Ben_Cs: linux doesn't cache the memory, it caches *into* the memory
[05:15] <Ben_Cs> TheSheep: that's what i ment
[05:15] <TheSheep> Ben_Cs: it uses all the memory for buffers and cache
[05:16] <TheSheep> Ben_Cs: always
[05:16] <TheSheep> Ben_Cs: when you run a new application that needs additional memory, the buffers and cache are made smaller
[05:17] <Ben_Cs> TheSheep: but sometimes i look at the memory usage and i see that some of it used by apps, some by cache and some buffered, but some is free aswell
[05:18] <TheSheep> Ben_Cs: the free part is very small
[05:19] <TheSheep> Ben_Cs: it's left there to have some margin, so that the system doesn't have to change the cache size all the time
[05:19] <Ben_Cs> TheSheep: that's what i said: at the beginning it's very big. "eventually" it's small :)
[05:22] <Ben_Cs> BBL
[06:05] <skarevoluti> hi
[06:06] <skarevoluti> I've a problem mounting a usb drive
[06:06] <skarevoluti> can someone help me?
[06:08] <skarevoluti> /jion #xubuntu-es
[06:08] <skarevoluti> oops
[06:08] <skarevoluti> jeje
[06:10] <nikolam> what drive
[06:12] <skarevoluti> an usb disk
[06:12] <skarevoluti> of a mp4 player
[06:16] <nikolam> try lsusb
[06:17] <skarevoluti> nothing appears
[06:18] <nikolam> you dont have any other usb device on computer?
[06:19] <skarevoluti> yeah
[06:19] <nikolam> do you have listed usb controller when you enter lspci?
[06:19] <skarevoluti> but in the lsusb doesn't appears
[06:20] <nikolam> lspci | grep USB
[06:27] <skarevoluti> nikolam: 00:01.2 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  USB 1.0 Controller (rev 07)
[06:27] <skarevoluti> 00:01.3 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  USB 1.0 Controller (rev 07)
[06:28] <nikolam> try lsmod | grep usb
[06:30] <skarevoluti> usb_storage            72256  0
[06:30] <skarevoluti> libusual               17936  1 usb_storage
[06:30] <skarevoluti> scsi_mod              142348  4 sg,sd_mod,usb_storage,libata
[06:30] <skarevoluti> usbcore               134280  4 usb_storage,libusual,ohci_hcd
[06:33] <skarevoluti> nikolam: ?
[06:33] <nikolam> searching
[06:33] <skarevoluti> ok, thanks!
[06:41] <Snoopotic> is there some better tool than xscreensaver?
[06:46] <skarevoluti> Snoopotic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Screensavers
[06:46] <Snoopotic> I want that at a certain time my laptop does monitor/tft off and after longer time does what windows does in "suspend": it writes the ram onto hdd and shuts down. after rebooting it starts where it suspendet. I think on linux its also possible :D
[06:46] <skarevoluti> gnome-screensaver
[06:48] <skarevoluti> Snoopotic: in the tab advanced of screensaver settings
[06:49] <skarevoluti> you can configure that
[06:52] <emdash_> when's the next release due?
[06:53] <Jester45> and suspend put everything in ram and shutdown the rest of the computer only using power to keep the ram refreshed hibernate sends all data to the hardrive and shuts down completely
[06:54] <Jester45> !release
[06:54] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[06:54] <Snoopotic> hmm so something doesnt really work :D
[06:58] <skarevoluti> xscreensaver should works
[07:13] <Jester45> Deluge is now at 0.5.5-1
[07:14] <triptec> is there anyone who know any command to for differeces between files, I've fucked up something cuz X won't start properly, need to check for diff between working and none working install
[07:14] <Snoopotic> hmmm-- if I klick on "hibernate" it stops at --> [ 2373.320098]  Power down.
[07:15] <triptec> I've used diff but I'd like to compaire dir
[07:20] <DuClare> triptec, diff
[07:20] <TheSheep> Snoopotic: old computer?
[07:21] <Snoopotic> yeah veery old .D
[07:21] <Snoopotic> celeron 450 mhz 128mb ram
[07:21] <TheSheep> look at top of your dmesg
[07:21] <TheSheep> dmesg | less
[07:22] <DuClare> oh
[07:22] <DuClare> sorry
[07:23] <Snoopotic> TheSheep you mnean this? : "ACPI: BIOS age (1999) fails cutoff (2000), acpi=force is required to enable ACPI"
[07:23] <TheSheep> Snoopotic: yes
[07:23] <Snoopotic> so where to set acpi-force ?
[07:23] <DuClare> triptec, you can compare directories with diff
[07:24] <TheSheep> Snoopotic: in your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:24] <TheSheep> Snoopotic: add it to the kernel options, where 'quiet' and 'splash' are
[07:24] <Jester45> make sure you put acpi=force not the - like you typed above
[07:25] <Snoopotic> ok
[07:27] <Snoopotic> then update-grub ?
[07:29] <TheSheep> Snoopotic: no need for that
[07:36] <triptec> DuClare: thx..
[07:37] <DuClare> glad if it helped.
[07:37] <Snoopotic> lol :D update-grub deletes the option :D
[07:38] <triptec> is there anyone who has any idea why X starts but puts my monitors to sleep, it used to work and there is no difference between xorg.conf on my working and not working system...
[07:39] <triptec> I use the fglrx driver
[07:40] <Snoopotic> ati card? errm... i silently remember: try searching for "x freezes"
[07:41] <TheSheep> Snoopotic: yes, you have to put it in 'kernel options' or somethingl ike that in the comments a dozen lines up
[07:48] <MatBoy> Hey guys ! I'm planning to migrate from Debian Lenny to Xubuntu at the moment... are the tribe version really too unstable for a workstation ?
[07:51] <limbert65> Is there a good LOGO programming app for kids to run under Xubuntu?
[07:51] <DuClare> triptec, workind and not working system.. but do they have the same screen / video adapter?
[07:52] <DuClare> triptec, you should check that hsync and vsync and correctly in xorg.conf... then make sure the resolutions are valid
[08:59] <triptec> if I make my own menu.lst for grub how do I install it in MBR?
[09:00] <triptec> anyone?
[09:04] <TheSheep> triptec: you don't
[09:04] <TheSheep> triptec: menu.lst is not installed in mbr, that's not lilo
[09:45] <darrend> anything I can do to debug a laptop that won't resume after suspend to RAM?  Requires hard reboot when resume fails so I seem to lose whatever logs there may have been
[09:53] <steve___> darrend: i have this same problem with a dell c400, but I haven't dug into it yet  :-/
[10:10] <Snoopotic> hehe _._
[10:10] <Snoopotic> me too :P
[10:18] <Snoopotic> you may try this: http://www.linuxscrew.com/2007/09/06/get-suspendhibernate-working-fast-in-ubuntu-feisty-fawn-704/
[11:09] <nikolam> lala
[11:09] <nikolam> hello
[11:09] <nikolam> Do anyone of you actually use some form of /home directory encryption ?
[11:15] <Jester45> i dont but it would be easy
[11:17] <zoredache> nikolam: I do
[11:17] <nikolam> What method do you use?
[11:18] <zoredache> crtypsetup with luks, and pammount
[11:19] <zoredache> basically I have a 8gb file which gets mounted through a loopback filesystem whenever I login
[11:22] <nikolam> As I see there is no way on linux to make encryption work throught file system, like ntfs on win
[11:22] <nikolam> If we dont have Raiser4 unstable on mind
[11:22] <zoredache> so you want total encryption?
[11:22] <nikolam> Whole partition or file and then mount
[11:23] <nikolam> I would like ntfs behavior. only for some files
[11:23] <zoredache> you can get total encryption, it is a pain though
[11:23] <nikolam> zoredache: Do you have ability to make that file which is encrypted dinamically sized?
[11:23] <zoredache> the ntfs way isn't partiuclarly secure... There are many ways that it leaves unecrypted fragments of files around where it can be seen
[11:24] <zoredache> no, but resizing it wouldn't be that painful...
[11:24] <nikolam> Could resizing be done?
[11:24] <nikolam> Dinamically
[11:25] <zoredache> I don't know about dynamically...
[11:25] <zoredache> it would take a little work
[11:25] <zoredache> I suspect it probably can be done, I just don't know how
[11:26] <nikolam> I suppose that it could be: make new file with encryption, copy data, delete old one.
[11:26] <zoredache> yeah, that is what I was thinking...
[11:26] <nikolam> Does anyone use LVM, I setup software raid without lvm
[11:26] <zoredache> it should be possible to just make the file bigger, then do a ext3 resize
[11:27] <zoredache> but if you do the commands wrong you loose everything
[11:27] <zoredache> I use lvm on a couple servers
[11:27] <nikolam> "ext3 resize"? hmmm
[11:27] <zoredache> it is really nice to be able to make filesystem snapshots
[11:27] <nikolam> Hmm snapshots nice
[11:28] <zoredache> nikolam: resize2fs
[11:28] <nikolam> but lvm+raid+encryption
[11:28] <nikolam> But could win run on same disks where is lvm?
[11:29] <zoredache> sure, but windows, couldn't be on the lvm partition
[11:29] <nikolam> I thought to run win in kvm akyway but just a thougth
[11:29] <zoredache> so you need your windows partition, your boot partition, and then lvm
[11:30] <zoredache> oh, and if you do use lvm, that will let you resize things pretty easy
[11:30] <nikolam> I currently have raid without lvm
[11:32] <nikolam> someone was saying that if lvm broke i could lose all
[11:32] <nikolam> so i stayed away
[11:33] <zoredache> yes, it is possible that if lvm broke you could loose everything
[11:33] <zoredache> but then if software raid broke you could loose everything, if ext3 broke you could loose everything
[11:34] <zoredache> the answer to it all iis to simply make backups of important data because things can break
[11:34] <zoredache> If you don't have a good backup system in place, then playing around with partiitioning and encryption isn't wise
[11:38] <nikolam> Ok, let me say I thought to use UDF formated DVD+RW disks for backups, like on Win with nero Incd
[11:39] <nikolam> But I think that Linux now supports only 2.0 version of UDF and many my disks are formated on 2.6 or 2.5
[11:40] <zoredache> I don't know much about that...  I make my backups to hard drives these days.
[11:40] <zoredache> Usb drives are so much easier to deal with
[11:40] <nikolam> Yes. One nice external hd on usb 2.0
[11:42] <nikolam> Some people even use sata cable externally (without eSata cabling)
[11:43] <nikolam> So to conclude, Use encrypted file for home. ;)
[11:44] <zoredache> sure...  I use it on my laptop at least.  I don't on my home desktop system though.
[11:51] <uptownben> I've been trying to figure out why my system locks up after a few minutes of network idle. Anyone seen this before?
[12:06] <triptec> is there any program that could make system backups?
[12:08] <Ramla> I wish there was one that would automatically backup everything you want to backup
[12:10] <Ramla> I think the easiest way is to use dd to read a partition into a partition image. The problem is it saves a lot of empty space and you need a partition of the exact same size to restore it.
[12:10] <Ramla> Well, a bigger one might work. I'm not sure.
[12:14] <zoredache> what kind of backups triptec?
[12:15] <zoredache> I use both amanda, and dirvish for backups
[12:15] <zoredache> bacula is also pretty highly rated
[12:20] <Jester45> you could dd a partition to a diffrent partition or... to save some space you could pass the input to gzip or something else and save it o even pipe that to an offsite backup
[12:23] <nikolam> Have a small problem with OpenOffice and Document viewer (evince) both of them dont work (I tryed to make skype 32bit work on xubuntu 64bit and messed something up)
[12:24] <nikolam> Strange thing is when I start fglrx+xgl+compiz, Ooo work and under normal xfce it does not :)
[12:26] <nikolam> Is there any tool to show what ooo/evince are doing when not starting etc (like looking what process is doing and where stops)
[12:27] <Jester45> running it from a Terminal
[12:27] <Jester45> that should show the errrors
[12:28] <nikolam> shows nothing
[12:28] <nikolam> is there any tool to *watch it*
[12:29] <nikolam> evince actualy starts but not showing pdf`s :)
[12:30] <nikolam> I dont want to run compiz all the time beacouse picture is blurry then
[12:30] <nikolam> And fonts are strange
[12:31] <nikolam> evince displays:
[12:31] <nikolam> (evince:7627): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_tree_model_foreach: assertion `GTK_IS_TREE_MODEL (model)' failed
[12:31] <nikolam> (evince:7627): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_list_store_clear: assertion `GTK_IS_LIST_STORE (list_store)' failed
[12:41] <sjefen6> Hi. I have a old computer with a Intel 82810 onboard graphic controller. When I run Windows on it I can get up to 1280x1024 rez, but now when i run xubuntu the higest I can get is Default witch my monitor says is 1024x768. How can I get 1280x1024?
[12:42] <sjefen6> I am running tribe 5... If that might have someting to say...
[12:44] <JoseArcadio> how do i safely turn off compiz?
[12:44] <JoseArcadio> hey matboy, did you decide to run xubuntu after all?
[12:46] <MatBoy> JoseArcadio, yeah, I installed it, working on it now... that was the idea for months... time time time :)
[12:46] <MatBoy> JoseArcadio, it's nice, I have to get familair with Sudo every time
[12:52] <JoseArcadio> i loved xubuntu on my PIII
[12:52] <nikolam> Are you using it now? :)
[12:53] <nikolam> I used to use it on my p3 also and now switched to 64bit Athlon and continue using it :)
[12:54] <nikolam> I continue using it on new machine :)
[01:04] <sjefen6> is a horisontal black line covering 1/3 of the screen a known bug?
[01:06] <JoseArcadio> hrm
[01:08] <skarevoluti> Hello
[01:08] <skarevoluti> I've mounting problems in xubuntu
[01:09] <skarevoluti> can someone help me?
[01:10] <sjefen6> I think I get it after I run software update (I dont remeber what it is called in xubuntu) or install synergy... It's the second time I get this bug, and last time I just reinstalled xubuntu. (have just bin testing ubuntu for 2 days)
[01:11] <skarevoluti> the volume don't mount