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| Jucato | ryanakca: did you find the service menu? | 02:35 |
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| LaserJock | anybody know if there's a good gpg agent for KDE? | 02:40 |
| LaserJock | I use seahorse in Gnome and for some reason it keeps wanting to show up in KDE too | 02:41 |
| Jucato | kgpg? | 02:41 |
| ScottK | LaserJock: I just use gpg-agent and pinentry-qt. | 02:43 |
| LaserJock | ScottK: doh, I always thought pinentry-qt had something to do with a qt frontend for pine | 02:45 |
| ScottK | Nope. | 02:45 |
| ScottK | Heh. | 02:45 |
| LaserJock | that's what I get for not looking at the description | 02:45 |
| LaserJock | pin-entry not pine-entry ;-) | 02:45 |
| ScottK | Yeah. | 02:46 |
| LaserJock | ScottK: does that work for ssh keys as well? | 02:46 |
| ScottK | No. There's ssh-agent for that, IIRC. | 02:46 |
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| LaserJock | has anybody been experiencing hard lockups in gutsy KDE? | 03:50 |
| === Jucato hasn't.. yet... | ||
| ScottK | No. | 03:52 |
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| LaserJock | hmm, I had two nasty ones last night | 03:58 |
| LaserJock | required some fsck on reboot | 03:58 |
| Hobbsee | greetings LaserJock! | 03:59 |
| Jucato | greetings Hobbsee! | 03:59 |
| LaserJock | hi Hobbsee | 03:59 |
| Hobbsee | hi Jucato! | 03:59 |
| Jucato | live long and prosper! | 03:59 |
| Jucato | :) | 03:59 |
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| Hobbsee | wow, g-p-m is screwy | 04:29 |
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| LaserJock | argg, gutsy KDE is quite unstable for me :( | 04:46 |
| LaserJock | maybe I need a reinstall | 04:46 |
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| viviersf | Riddell ping | 09:30 |
| Jucato | he's gone for 2 weeks afaik | 09:31 |
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| jeroenvrp | how can I close bugs in launchpad!? | 09:50 |
| jeroenvrp | or is that not possible | 09:50 |
| Jucato | fix released, fix committed, or invalid I think | 09:51 |
| jeroenvrp | Jucato: ok thanks | 09:52 |
| Jucato | #ubuntu-bugs might have more definite answers | 09:52 |
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| _StefanS_ | morning | 10:44 |
| Jucato | moin _StefanS_ | 10:44 |
| _StefanS_ | hey Jucato | 10:45 |
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| Jucato | oooh pgquiles is in here :) | 10:46 |
| pgquiles | Jucato: hi | 10:47 |
| pgquiles | Jucato: am I so famous? | 10:47 |
| pgquiles | s/so/that | 10:47 |
| Tm_T | bah | 10:47 |
| Jucato | hahah! I wouldn't know. but I do remember you. :P | 10:47 |
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| tseliot | hi, can anybody tell me how to embed Adept in my application, please? | 12:10 |
| tseliot | I know I can use this command with Synaptic: | 12:10 |
| tseliot | /usr/sbin/synaptic --hide-main-window --non-interactive --parent-window-id | 12:10 |
| tseliot | I would like to use Synaptic for GNOME and Adept for KDE | 12:10 |
| mhb | tseliot: adept-batch is the tool you seek | 12:11 |
| mhb | tseliot: IIRC adept-batch takes a apt-get like syntax -- adept-batch install, adept-batch remove and so on | 12:11 |
| tseliot | mhb: very interesting. Thanks! | 12:12 |
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| larsivi | siretart: you sounded like you have some knowledge about the m1330 .. seems like I have no sound with gutsy? | 12:21 |
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| larsivi | siretart: forget that, it's working just now at least | 12:29 |
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| larsivi | hmm, but there seems to be hanging/latency involved when using sound ... | 12:38 |
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| siretart | we noticed that there might be problems with sound after suspend | 12:49 |
| larsivi | hmm, I haven't used suspend yet | 12:50 |
| larsivi | siretart: all the sound control buttons at the top works with amarok, except the mute button (I get the message on screen though) | 12:57 |
| Lure | hi all | 01:11 |
| Lure | I have two new packages to test in my ppa: | 01:11 |
| Lure | 1. new kdepim snapshot (if no regression, we would upload it before StringFreeze) | 01:12 |
| kwwii | anyone here tried to update from feisty to gutsy? | 01:12 |
| Lure | 2. new libgphoto2 merged from debian (will go for UVF if it works for people) | 01:12 |
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| Lure | if you are kdepim user of using digital camera programs to download photos, test would be appretiated | 01:13 |
| Lure | allee: ^^^ | 01:13 |
| Lure | my ppa is here: https://launchpad.net/~lure/+archive | 01:14 |
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| Jucato | am I the only one not being able to use any kde-guidance module in System Settings? I can only use them if I run them individually with kdesu | 01:46 |
| Jucato | I always get "Library files for "libpython2.5.so" not found in paths." | 01:47 |
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| Lure | Jucato: works for me | 01:52 |
| === Jucato sobs | ||
| Jucato | hm.. ok this is funny. if I start an individual module from the mini-CLI, I also get the python error. but if I start it from Konsole, it runs normally | 01:53 |
| stdin | Jucato: seems it needs python2.5-dev installed, you have that? | 01:54 |
| === Jucato will try | ||
| Jucato | but why? | 01:55 |
| stdin | I have no clue, but when i mv's the symlink it gave the error you got | 01:55 |
| Jucato | which symlink? | 01:56 |
| stdin | libpython2.5.so | 01:56 |
| stdin | /usr/lib/libpython2.5.so -> /usr/lib/libpython2.5.so.1 -> /usr/lib/libpython2.5.so.1.0 | 01:57 |
| Jucato | ok now it works. thanks stdin | 01:57 |
| Jucato | but the bigger question now is why would it need a -dev package just to run it? :( | 01:57 |
| stdin | don't know, it really shouldn't | 01:58 |
| Jucato | yeah... I know it shouldn't either :( | 01:58 |
| === Jucato wonders if Lure has any idea... | ||
| Lure | stdin: you need to check with doko in #ubuntu-devel, he was changing this recently | 01:59 |
| Lure | stdin: some stuff was moved between regular and -dev package, maybe this is still not complete | 01:59 |
| === Jucato wonders if that's for me too | ||
| Jucato | ah so it seems that /usr/lib/libpython2.5.so is the missing symlink, if python2.5-dev is not installed... | 02:00 |
| stdin | yep | 02:01 |
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| Jucato | stdin: oh you asked already? | 02:04 |
| stdin | Jucato: yeah | 02:04 |
| Jucato | oh ok... | 02:04 |
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| bobesponja | hey | 03:12 |
| bobesponja | is there a torrent for tribe5? can't find it | 03:12 |
| bobesponja | oopd ok, found it :) | 03:12 |
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| Tonio_ | hi all :) | 03:22 |
| Jucato | hi Tonio_! | 03:23 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_! | 03:23 |
| Lure | hi Tonio_, Hobbsee! | 03:24 |
| Jucato | hi Lure, hi Hobbsee | 03:24 |
| Lure | can you test new kdepim snapshot and libgphoto2 new upstream release? | 03:24 |
| Lure | both are cnadidates for gutsy | 03:24 |
| Lure | they are in mmy ppa | 03:24 |
| nixternal | good morning kubuntuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu | 03:30 |
| Jucato | gooooooooood morning vista! | 03:30 |
| Jucato | er... I meant nixternal | 03:30 |
| nixternal | don't make me hack you with my vista box! | 03:30 |
| nixternal | it is 1337 | 03:30 |
| Jucato | ugh! that would be terrible indeed :P | 03:31 |
| ScottK | nixternal: I heard you were working on a Vista pbuilder how-to. | 03:32 |
| manchicken | Re bug #109700, is Marco Maini troubleshooting or just fixing? It looks like he's troubleshooting it, but he's assigning them to himself... Strange. | 03:33 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 109700 in adept "Adept Manager and Adept Updater don't use PROXY SETTINGS when checking for distro updates" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109700 | 03:33 |
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| Hobbsee | manchicken: usually troubleshooting | 03:33 |
| Hobbsee | it's a habit of the bugsquad to say "i'm assigning to myself, as i'm troubleshooting this one" | 03:33 |
| Hobbsee | of course, you're welcome to hijack, to fix the thing | 03:33 |
| manchicken | Well I don't think we ever decided how we wanted to fix this one. We've slated it for discussion before, but I don't recall ever actually sorting out a fix. | 03:34 |
| nixternal | hahah, vista pbuilder how-to..that is funny right there, I don't care who you are | 03:34 |
| Jucato | lol | 03:35 |
| manchicken | nixternal: For someone who hates vista so much, you seem to talk about it a lot :P | 03:35 |
| Jucato | the more you hate, the more you love :) | 03:35 |
| manchicken | Hobbsee: My solution to this problem would be a little python feller who popped up and changed your apt proxy settings :) | 03:35 |
| Hobbsee | manchicken: :) | 03:35 |
| manchicken | Hobbsee: But I'm not sure if the way we want to solve it is through apt or not. | 03:36 |
| manchicken | I can't think of a better way to fix it though. | 03:36 |
| Hobbsee | hmmm | 03:36 |
| Jucato | btw, the env/ and share/ are back, but the home/ is gone? | 03:37 |
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| bddebian | Heya | 04:27 |
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| DaSkreech | Hobbsee, Jucato: Hiya | 06:31 |
| Hobbsee | hi DaSkreech | 06:32 |
| DaSkreech | how are you? | 06:32 |
| DaSkreech | I know Jucato is hot | 06:32 |
| Jucato | O.o | 06:32 |
| DaSkreech | all the young ladies are checking him out :) | 06:32 |
| Jucato | -_- | 06:32 |
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| === Jucato waves good night | ||
| claydoh | night Jucato! | 06:41 |
| DaSkreech | Night | 06:45 |
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| allee | Lure: bad news about libgphoto2 2.4.0 (with cannon powershot A40). gphoto2 --auto-detect -L works once, next try hangs after autodetecting :( 2 x Ctrl-c to hard abort. Then it works again, 2nd hangs. etc. I see same in digikam :( | 07:43 |
| allee | Lure: Downgrading libgphoto to 2.3.1-5ubuntu1 and hang on 2nd try is gone and works as expected again | 07:46 |
| manchicken | Would anybody be opposed to my fix for the proxy settings issue in Adept be a Python proggy that manipulates the apt settings? | 07:53 |
| === DaSkreech raises hand | ||
| manchicken | DaSkreech: Any reason why? | 07:55 |
| manchicken | :) | 07:55 |
| manchicken | I think it should be a program that is accessible outside of adept, too, so that people could manage their apt settings outside of adept. And if there's already such a program, I vote for using that instead of writing a new one :) | 07:56 |
| DaSkreech | I don't like snakes or Comedy shows? | 07:56 |
| manchicken | DaSkreech: But snakes love you, and comedy shows love everybody. | 07:56 |
| ScottK | manchicken: Are the setting Adept settings or apt settings? | 07:57 |
| manchicken | ScottK: Well, the way that libapt works, I'm thinking that the only real solution would be to modify apt settings. | 07:57 |
| manchicken | ScottK: If you've got other ideas, however, I'm all ears. | 07:57 |
| manchicken | Wow, I apologize... that was a very poorly constructed sentence. | 07:58 |
| ScottK | Then I think that whatever you do would have to be part of the apt package as one package may not modify settings of another package. | 07:58 |
| manchicken | ScottK: Even if they're system settings? | 07:58 |
| ScottK | I guess that's the real question is where do the settings live? | 07:58 |
| manchicken | I suppose that makes sense :) | 07:58 |
| manchicken | ScottK: It'd be the apt configs for sure. | 07:59 |
| manchicken | ScottK: I'm wondering if we could make it a package like apt-settings or something like that. | 07:59 |
| manchicken | Because we have several instances where a directly-related package modifies the settings of another program. | 08:00 |
| ScottK | AFAIK by policy they aren't supposed to do that. | 08:00 |
| manchicken | Such as compiz, KDE, etc. | 08:00 |
| ScottK | There is a way aroung it ... | 08:00 |
| ScottK | Make a command line script (let's call it apt-proxyconf) that changes the apt proxy setting. | 08:01 |
| ScottK | Make that script part of the apt package. | 08:01 |
| ScottK | Then the adept postinst or whatever you want can take input from the user and call that script to change the actual setting. | 08:02 |
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| ScottK | Essentially the apt-proxyconf script serves as a public API to other packages for the setting that can be documented and stable. | 08:02 |
| ScottK | Does that make sense? | 08:03 |
| manchicken | Would a python package be enough on that you think? | 08:04 |
| manchicken | BTW, we just got the baby's kubuntu body-suit thingy via UPS :) | 08:04 |
| manchicken | It's cute. | 08:04 |
| ScottK | A python script could certainly do it, but it'd have to be part of the apt package. | 08:04 |
| manchicken | Who would I have to lobby for that? | 08:05 |
| manchicken | Because IIRC, Synaptic has this same problem... or does it? | 08:05 |
| ScottK | mvo I think. I'd look at the apt debian/changelog and see who's been uploading it. | 08:05 |
| manchicken | If libapt were documented.... :) | 08:05 |
| ScottK | Dunno. I've never used Gnome. | 08:05 |
| ScottK | python-apt is documented though ... | 08:05 |
| ScottK | Or whatever it's called. | 08:05 |
| manchicken | Oooh, python-apt already has config interfaces. | 08:08 |
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| Lure | allee: then probably not worth the pain to upgrade | 09:34 |
| Lure | allee: thanks for testing | 09:34 |
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| marseillai | hi | 10:32 |
| marseillai | i've just download this svn : https://movida.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/movida/trunk/tmp/ it's a qt4 apps and i don't know how to build it... anyone could help me ? | 10:32 |
| marseillai | oki found | 10:34 |
| marseillai | sorry for the stupid question | 10:35 |
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| allee | Lure: kdepim in ubuntu repo shows same prob with the huge imap folder. So no regression in your pkgs | 11:19 |
| Lure | allee: good to know & thanks for testing | 11:20 |
| allee | Lure: np. | 11:20 |
| Lure | allee: will probably push new kdepim tommorow through Tonio_/Hobbsee | 11:20 |
| allee | argl. Strigi back at 100% cpu without disk io :( | 11:20 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: ping me no pb | 11:27 |
| Lure | allee: I think strigi has some infinite loop bug | 11:27 |
| Lure | Tonio_: kdepim from my ppa is candidate for upload (UVFe given by Riddell) | 11:27 |
| allee | Lure: mhmm, but it strigi finished on my D600 3 hour ago | 11:30 |
| Lure | allee: some claim that strigi is also indexing ~/.strigi (own index), which I doubt | 11:31 |
| Lure | allee: it crashes regularly here, but I did not have time to look into details yet | 11:32 |
| allee | Lure: ahh, D600 has 12 G home and stripi used ~ 50 min cpu time. D830 has 91 G home, so I should be patient until several cpu hours are consumed ;) | 11:33 |
| Lure | allee: crossing fingers that it does not crash on you ;-) | 11:34 |
| allee | :) | 11:36 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: oki I'll have a look tomorrow at work, please ping me, I may forget... | 11:58 |
| Lure | Tonio_: thanks, will do | 11:58 |
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| DaSkreech | I cant get strigi to index :-( | 12:19 |
| DaSkreech | but then I'm on a live cd so I shouldn't count .) | 12:19 |
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| mhb | oh yeah, who's the BAD ass | 12:20 |
| mhb | :o) | 12:20 |
| mhb | excuse me, I am really happy about a bug that is close to be fixed | 12:21 |
| mhb | ScottK: around? | 12:21 |
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