[12:38] <zgmf-x20a> ii  nvidia-glx                                 1.0.9631+2.6.20.5-16.29                NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver
[12:38] <zgmf-x20a> ii  nvidia-glx-dev                             1.0.9631+2.6.20.5-16.29                NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver devel
[12:38] <zgmf-x20a> rc  nvidia-glx-new                             1.0.9755+2.6.20.5-16.29                NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'new' driver
[12:38] <zgmf-x20a> ii  nvidia-kernel-common                       20051028+1ubuntu7                      NVIDIA binary kernel module common files
[12:38] <zgmf-x20a> ic  nvidia-settings                            1.0+20060516-3ubuntu1                  Tool of configuring the NVIDIA graphics driv
[12:38] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: these were installed
[12:38] <mattperry1976> yes I rebooted after the updates
[12:38] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  if you follow those instructions, you should be able to install manually, but you need to make sure you have all the build-essential things and you need to be sure that you always tell the system to compile the interface from scratch (dont download)
[12:39] <BluesKaj> !pastebin | zgmf-x20a
[12:39] <ubotu> zgmf-x20a: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:39] <the-erm> Has anyone ever had a problem with a usb device hanging?  If so what /etc/init.d/<scriptname> restart would you run to restart it?
[12:39] <the-erm> I had to reboot
[12:39] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: ic... and yes that would be the problem, i dont know how install things like that manually
[12:41] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: so with those files that are installed, do i have all the necessary items?
[12:41] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  well on that nVidia page it gives you the detailed directions, just be sure you have the build-essential package (i.e. compile tools) installed, then when asked during the install, DONT download, have the system compile your interface
[12:41] <BluesKaj> kkathman, he can download the .run file , but then he must cd to the directory where it downloaded and do: ./filename.run in the konsole to install it
[12:41] <Schuenemann> hey, anyone heard anything about AMD announcing they'll open ATI specification?
[12:41] <dudeicles> is it just me or does this channel never have ops?
[12:41] <kkathman> BluesKaj:  yeah I think thats mentioned on that page
[12:42] <emilsedgh> Schuenemann: maybe they will be included in 8.04
[12:42] <dthacker-lt> dudeicles: they morph into ops when they need to
[12:42] <dudeicles> lol ok
[12:42] <kkathman> no,zgmf-x20a you dont have the nvidia kernel generic interface file
[12:42] <Schuenemann> emilsedgh, but it was proprietary before, right?
[12:43] <BluesKaj> Schuenemann, yes it was anounced a few days ago that ATI is doing a rewrite of most of the linux drivers for thair graphics cards
[12:43] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: well, what i did was download it, and then in console typed in sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.09-pkg1.run and it did nothing
[12:43] <Schuenemann> that's nice
[12:43] <emilsedgh> Schuenemann: there is a propertiary driver and a Free Driver
[12:43] <mattperry1976> kkathman: yes I rebooted after the updates
[12:43] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: ok, so how do i get the nvidia kernal generic interface?
[12:43] <Schuenemann> emilsedgh, I'm talking abotu the specification
[12:43] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  well it certainly should have done SOMETHING :)
[12:43] <dudeicles> too bad you can't use mIRC on ubuntu
[12:43] <jonny> Hi guys.  I'm completely new to kubuntu and was wondering if somebody could tell me where I can configure a startup script?  Gnome has that nice System > Preference > Sessions.  What's the KDE equivalent?
[12:44] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  you have to install it or compile it
[12:44] <Schuenemann> dudeicles, wiine works
[12:44] <emilsedgh> Schuenemann: ah not it wasnt
[12:44] <dudeicles> Schuenemann: Does mIRC work in wine?
[12:44] <emilsedgh> jonny: systemSettings->Advanced
[12:44] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: well it says "sh: Can't open NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.09-pkg1.run" when i type that in to konsle
[12:44] <Schuenemann> dudeicles, yeah, but remember it's paid :-p
[12:44] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  for my box it is:  nvidia-kernel-2.6.20-16-generic
[12:44] <emilsedgh> jonny: the, goto Session Manager :)
[12:45] <zgmf-x20a> ca i install that file from adept?
[12:45] <escuter> excuse me, I want to set skim up to be able to type in a couple languages
[12:45] <BluesKaj> zgmf-x20a,try ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.09-pkg1.run
[12:45] <jonny> Thanks emilsedgh.  Can I configure startup scripts in there?  How do I do that?
[12:45] <escuter> can anybody give me a hand?
[12:45] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  sounds like you a) are not in the directory you downloaded the file or b) the permissions arent set
[12:45] <emilsedgh> jonny: scripts? if thats a script, place it in !/.kde/Autostart
[12:46] <emilsedgh> ~/.kde/Autostart jonny
[12:46] <escuter> my /etc/environment looks like this
[12:46] <escuter> PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games"
[12:46] <escuter> LANG="es_AR.UTF-8"
[12:46] <zgmf-x20a> BluesKaj: it said "bash: ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.09-pkg1.run: No such file or directory" when i put that
[12:46] <Biovore> zgmf-x20a: sh ./nvida...
[12:46] <zgmf-x20a> BluesKaj: and kkathman fyi, it is on my desktop
[12:46] <escuter> and I read that I need to add LC_CTYPE="ja_JA.UTF-8" to be able to type japanese
[12:46] <jonny> Brilliant emilsedgh.  Thanks a lot.
[12:46] <emilsedgh> jonny: np
[12:46] <escuter> but I also want to be able to type Yiddish
[12:47] <escuter> and I don't know how to add more than one string to that variable..
[12:47] <escuter> separated by :?
[12:48] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  then go to your console and cd to ~/Desktop   then execute your sh command
[12:49] <BluesKaj> zgmf-x20a, cd to your desktop or move the file to /home/yourname , cuz the konsole assumes /home/yourname as the default directory
[12:49] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: actually, i just moved the file into home and yah the command works now.  but now i am meet with the error message that i must run it as root
[12:49] <Schuenemann> Where can I find qsocket.h, qvbox.h, qhbox.h, qhttp.h, qdom.h and other QT libraries?
[12:49] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: and BluesKaj how do i do that as root?
[12:49] <Biovore> Schuenemann: got libqt4-dev?
[12:50] <BluesKaj> sudo ./filename
[12:50] <Schuenemann> Biovore, yes
[12:50] <zgmf-x20a> BluesKaj: ahhhh ic ic, ok let me try that
[12:50] <NickPresta> Schuenemann, /usr/include/qt3
[12:50] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  use sudo
[12:51] <Schuenemann> NickPresta, actually I'm trying to compile something with 'make' and it complains those libraries are missing
[12:51] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: and BluesKaj ok, new error comes up.  it says i appear to be running an x server and cannot proceed.  what x server could this possibly be?????
[12:51] <Schuenemann> and there is no qt3 directory, only qt4. Do I need qt3 package too?
[12:52] <NickPresta> Schuenemann, you have all the various -dev packages?
[12:52] <Schuenemann> NickPresta, I don't know, I installed libqt4-dev only
[12:52] <BluesKaj> !X
[12:52] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:53] <jesus18_> hola
[12:53] <jesus18_> a t dos como estan
[12:53] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  sorry Im assuming too much - you must exit your gui session and stop X before you install the nvidia device
[12:53] <NickPresta> !es | jesus18_
[12:53] <ubotu> jesus18_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:53] <hd> #denmark
[12:53] <jesus18_> hola
[12:53] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: then how am i supposed to still be able to talk with you guys?  i have to exit everything???
[12:54] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  the install process has to be dong wholly in the shell (konsole)
[12:54] <NickPresta> Schuenemann, it's possible you need the qt3 packages. I did a `locate qsocket.h` and it returned /usr/include/qt3. The the other files are there too.
[12:54] <BluesKaj> stdin, are you around ?
[12:54] <Schuenemann> NickPresta, is it libqt3-mt-dev ?
[12:55] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a: do you have the build-essentials installed?
[12:55] <NickPresta> Schuenemann, I believe so. You might also need the libqt3-headers
[12:55] <BluesKaj> err build-essential
[12:55] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: i think so, pretty sure, sudo build-essential right?
[12:56] <kkathman> !compile
[12:56] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:56] <Schuenemann> NickPresta, ok, I'll install them
[12:56] <NickPresta> Schuenemann, it is also possible that you need to specific the --with-qt-includes/libraries flag. Check out ./configure --help
[12:56] <NickPresta> s/specific/specify
[12:56] <BluesKaj> zgmf-x20a, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:56] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  go through that and be sure
[12:56] <Schuenemann> NickPresta, there is no configure
[12:56] <Schuenemann> I ran qmake first
[12:56] <NickPresta> Schuenemann, oh. Then I suppose you don't need to do that :)
[12:57] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: and BluesKaj ok its going thru it now, there is some installing being done
[12:58] <BluesKaj> yes kkathman, zgmf-x20a ...hang on , there is something else he needs too ...looking it up
[12:58] <Schuenemann> NickPresta, it still says I don't have those libraries... can I run this 'locate file' anywhere?
[12:59] <NickPresta> Schuenemann, you can run `locate filename` to try and find the files, to see if you do, indeed, have them.
[12:59] <mattperry1976> I'm thinking that I'm having some kind of 'permission' issues...as if I try to modify anything that saves to my home folder I get messages that start "Unable to save bookmarks in /home/mattperry/... Reported error was: Permission denied."
[12:59] <Schuenemann> NickPresta, anywhere? or at a specific directory (sub ones, for ex) ?
[01:00] <NickPresta> Schuenemann, anywhere.
[01:00] <NickPresta> Schuenemann, `man locate` for more information
[01:00] <mattperry1976> can anyone help with making sure that my permissions are set to the default etc?
[01:00] <kkathman> mattperry1976:  so you said you did reboot after you installed the updates?
[01:01] <BluesKaj> zgmf-x20a, sudo apt-get install  module-assistant then sudo apt-get module-assistant update
[01:01] <Schuenemann> NickPresta, k... well, I don't have them yet
[01:01] <Schuenemann> weird thing is that I see a libqt3-dev package but can't install it
[01:02] <Schuenemann> says it's unavailable and might be missing or is obsolete
[01:02] <zgmf-x20a> ok so kkathman and BluesKaj i have built essential and that is now done.  so, i will type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" into terminal and then the screen will go blank and i will have my normal prompt.  at that point i will type in "sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.09-pkg1.run" and the drivers will install correct????
[01:02] <BluesKaj>  zgmf-x20a ,then do the sudo ./filename.run again
[01:02] <zgmf-x20a> BluesKaj: ok ill install those first
[01:03] <mattperry1976> kkathman: yes I did
[01:03] <BluesKaj> brb,,, gotta set up the lawn sprinllers
[01:03] <NickPresta> Schuenemann, using `dpkg -l | grep qt`, I have: libqt3-mt-dev, and ibqt3-headers, as far as dev. packages go.
[01:03] <Schuenemann> how about libqt3-dev ?
[01:03] <kkathman> mattperry1976:  ok lets open konqueror and navigate to /home/mattperry/.kde/share/apps/
[01:03] <NickPresta> Schuenemann, nope.
[01:04] <Schuenemann> hmm
[01:04] <kkathman> mattperry1976:  you may have to go to the VIEW tab in Konq and check to view hidden files
[01:04] <zgmf-x20a> BluesKaj: ok, just so you know, the first command worked, but the second, the update did not, and it came back with this error "E: Invalid operation module-assistant"
[01:04] <NickPresta> Schuenemann, apparently, libqt3-mt-dev and libqt3-headers replace libqt3-dev
[01:04] <Schuenemann> damn
[01:05] <NickPresta> Schuenemann, which application is this, specifically?
[01:05] <Schuenemann> sopcast
[01:05] <Schuenemann> http://www.google.com.br/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=3&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sopcast.org%2F&ei=xm7kRt2HHZuOeebp8I0K&usg=AFQjCNE_qmI2CkyFvez7K3Sa_mPaurc1LA&sig2=LqTV16kKTqra4WsiuOxHqQ
[01:05] <Schuenemann> sorry
[01:05] <mattperry1976> kkathman
[01:05] <Schuenemann> http://www.sopcast.org/
[01:05] <mattperry1976> kkathman: ok I'm there
[01:05] <NickPresta> Schuenemann, I have sopcast installed from the repos.
[01:05] <outspan> hi everybody, i have a question
[01:06] <thomas_> does anyone know how to setup "wine"?
[01:06] <Schuenemann> NickPresta, really? does it work fine?
[01:06] <Schuenemann> which repo was it?
[01:06] <NickPresta> Schuenemann, yeah. I watched a couple of NBA games on it.
[01:06] <Schuenemann> please, tell me the repository
[01:06] <outspan> i have kubuntu 7.04 amd64, it will shut down suddenly about every half an hour, any idea why?
[01:06] <kkathman> mattperry1976:  ok, right click on the konqueror directory, choose properties, then click on the permissions tab
[01:07] <emilsedgh> thomas_: sudo apt-get install wine :)
[01:07] <NickPresta> Schuenemann, I installed 'sopcast' from the repos (I'll get the link in a minute) and then I compile 'qsopcast' myself (it's a QT frontend to sopcast).
[01:07] <thomas_> emilsedgh: i think I have it installed but it doesn't work
[01:07] <kkathman> mattperry1976:  the the ownership and user should be mattperry
[01:07] <emilsedgh> thomas_: whats the problem?
[01:07] <outspan> i also had some problems installing, had to install text mode
[01:08] <thomas_> emilsedgh: I wanna be able to run some windows applications, so wine opens .exe's
[01:08] <Schuenemann> NickPresta, well, I guess that won't help me... my problem is exacly the qt frontend
[01:08] <mattperry1976> kkathman: it is
[01:08] <BluesKaj> zgmf-x20a, well the update after the istall was a bit of overkill, but now the invidia driver install should work
[01:08] <emilsedgh> thomas_: go to konsole and type wine /path/to/your/file.exe
[01:08] <kkathman> mattperry1976:  then at the top the owner should have "Can view and Modify"  the others should be "Forbidden"
[01:08] <MekApelsin> is the extra repos on kubuntu.org gone?
[01:08] <NickPresta> Schuenemann, I'll show you all the qt related packages I have installed. You can install them one-by-one and see if it solves your problem.
[01:08] <mattperry1976> kkathman: they are
[01:08] <zgmf-x20a> BluesKaj: lol, ok, so i am going to do those steps as i said above and give it a go
[01:08] <Schuenemann> ok, thanks
[01:09] <thomas_> emilsedgh: is that the best way to run windows applications?
[01:09] <zgmf-x20a> BluesKaj: so i guess everything will shut down and ill brb
[01:09] <kkathman> mattperry1976:  ok then thats correct and permissions are ok it seems
[01:09] <NickPresta> Schuenemann, http://nickpresta.ath.cx/temp/qtpackages
[01:09] <BluesKaj> don't zgmf-x20a not necessary!\
[01:09] <Schuenemann> NickPresta, I found a .deb on a blog on google
[01:09] <emilsedgh> thomas_: maybe they will be opened when you double-click on them, i dunno, but why do you want to run a win application?
[01:09] <zgmf-x20a> BluesKaj: huh?  why???
[01:10] <kkathman> mattperry1976:  if you want you can click on the konq subdirectory and look at the permissions of the bookmarks.xml file to be sure they are the same
[01:10] <zgmf-x20a> BluesKaj: i thought i had to stop all x applications
[01:10] <NickPresta> Schuenemann, okay, try that. Alternately, try installing qt3-dev-tools and see if that helps.
[01:10] <Schuenemann> ok
[01:10] <BluesKaj> zgmf-x20a, you don't need to shut X down
[01:10] <zgmf-x20a> BluesKaj: i see so that package i just installed gives me that freedom to not shut down x??
[01:10] <Schuenemann> NickPresta, I already have it
[01:10] <mattperry1976> kkathman: bookmarks.xml is root...ah ha...
[01:11] <BluesKaj> where do the instructions say to shut X down, zgmf-x20a
[01:11] <erichj> emilsedgh: i would imagine he/she wants to run windows apps because there are either no linux alternatives or none that work as well as whatever they need
[01:11] <kkathman> mattperry1976:  hmm thats a problem yeah
[01:11] <solarwaver> is anyone knows how i run script files?
[01:12] <thomas_> emilsedgh: so I can play games :D
[01:12] <erichj> ./<script name>
[01:12] <emilsedgh> erichj: maybe, but most of the times people do not know about Linux programs
[01:12] <mattperry1976> kkathman: how does that get that way?..and how do I fix it? lol
[01:12] <zgmf-x20a> BluesKaj: as soon as i type in "sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.09-pkg1.run" it will unpack, etc etc, then brings me to the nvidia installer screen and says error, you appear to be running an x server, please exit x before installing
[01:12] <GoodHabit> Hello! How to define the application to view *.flv files?
[01:13] <kkathman> mattperry1976:  hard to say, but maybe you copied those bookmarks from some other system maybe?
[01:13] <Schuenemann> GoodHabit, Configurations > Configure Konqueror
[01:13] <outspan> I've just installed kubuntu 7.04 amd64 but it will suddenly shut down every half an hour, i have no idea why. Any hints?
[01:13] <erichj> emilsedgh: i suppose. although i still run ms office because there are no one note alternatives.
[01:13] <emilsedgh> GoodHabit: konqueror->settings->configure
[01:13] <BluesKaj> zgmf-x20a, don't use the "sh" .use  sudo ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.09-pkg1.run
[01:14] <GoodHabit> But i am using krusader...
[01:14] <zgmf-x20a> BluesKaj: ok ill give that a go
[01:14] <emilsedgh> GoodHabit: then go to File Associations
[01:14] <outspan> I've just installed kubuntu 7.04 amd64 but it will suddenly shut down every half an hour, i have no idea why. Any hints?
[01:14] <GoodHabit> emilsedgh: Where i can find File Associations?
[01:15] <emilsedgh> GoodHabit: konqueror->settings->configure
[01:15] <mattperry1976> kkathman: ok so now do you have any idea how to fix it?
[01:15] <kkathman> mattperry1976:  if there's anything in /home/mattperry  that doesnt have the ownership and user = mattperry, then you wont be able to save anything
[01:15] <zgmf-x20a> BluesKaj: ok, and then i get this error when doing that "sudo: NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.09-pkg1.run: command not found"
[01:15] <solarwaver> goodhabit download amadis converter so u convert them in to avi/Divx'
[01:15] <solarwaver> is anyone knows how i run script files?
[01:16] <emilsedgh> GoodHabit: also, you could right click on a .flv file and go to open with... place and choose the application you want and check the ;make it default' checkbox
[01:16] <thomas_> I can'topen Program files
[01:16] <erichj> solarwaver: in konsole type 'sudo ./scriptnamehere' no '
[01:16] <GoodHabit> I have another problem - kaffeine @ menu seems like "affeine" and it cannot be fixed with menu editor.
[01:16] <thomas_> I think linux doesn't allow to have spaces in folder names?
[01:16] <BluesKaj> zgmf-x20a, copy and paste this exactly:  sudo ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.09-pkg1.run
[01:17] <zgmf-x20a> BluesKaj: i did try that as well, same error, but slightly different, it says "sudo: ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.09-pkg1.run: command not found"
[01:17] <Schuenemann> NickPresta, I installed the .deb and I'm running a GUI... should I see anything on the list?
[01:17] <dudeicles> has anyone here ever used GXMame?
[01:18] <zgmf-x20a> BluesKaj: the sh seems to be needed?
[01:18] <solarwaver> erichj sudo what?
[01:18] <mattperry1976> kkathman: so is there a way to reset everything in my home folder to my ownership etc?
[01:18] <thomas_> how do you navigate to folders with spaces in the names
[01:19] <Schuenemann> thomas_, use quotes
[01:19] <kkathman> mattperry1976:  yep, but it may not need it
[01:19] <solarwaver> erichj sudo what?
[01:19] <zgmf-x20a> BluesKaj: lol ... ummm nooo, just in the home directory, havent changed the prompt at all
[01:19] <thomas_> ok ry
[01:19] <newsense> thomas_: tab does autocomplete
[01:20] <mattperry1976> kkathman: should everything in that folder by default be owned by me if I'm the only user?
[01:21] <solarwaver> erichj sudo what?
[01:21] <BluesKaj> ok, zgmf-x20a try from the TTY prompt , ctrl+alt+F2 and type the commands there , then when your done , ctrl+alt+F7 to turn X back on
[01:21] <kkathman> mattperry1976:  you could launch konqueror under admin mode (i.e. kdesu konqueror) and then open the the directory /home/mattperry/.kde/share/apps and then check that little box that says "Apply changes to all subfolders and contents"  but Im not 100% sure thats necessary,  but about 98.9%
[01:22] <mattperry1976> right on
[01:22] <mattperry1976> kkathman: right on...thanks
[01:22] <kkathman> it makes sense to me that everything under /home/mattperry should have those settings, but you might want to ask a super guru around here
[01:22] <solarwaver> is anyone knows how i run script files?
[01:22] <zgmf-x20a> BluesKaj: ok sounds good, ill give it a whirl.  here goes nothing.  brb
[01:23] <thomas_> can anyone help me with this? I'm trying to run an .exe http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36962/
[01:23] <Schuenemann> solarwaver, ./scriptName
[01:24] <BluesKaj> is there a conflict with older nvidia drivers when trying to install new ones?...never encountered that with fglrx
[01:24] <emilsedgh> thomas_: looks like that wine just 'cannot' run it, go to appdb.winehq.org and see if thats supported or no
[01:25] <zgmf-x20a> BluesKaj: well that was i8nteresting...  EXACT same error message!!  ARGH!  lol
[01:25] <thomas_> emilsedgh: ok t y
[01:25] <solarwaver> is anyone knows how i run script files?
[01:25] <GoodHabit> Help! Annoing trouble -  kaffeine @ menu seems like "affeine" and it cannot be fixed with menu editor.
[01:25] <emilsedgh> !repeat | GoodHabit
[01:25] <ubotu> GoodHabit: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[01:26] <BluesKaj> zgmf-x20a, I think you might have to uninstall the old nvidia driver first: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[01:26] <GoodHabit> !patience
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[01:26] <GoodHabit> ^)
[01:27] <kkathman> solarwaver:  in general you just +e the file and run it  but it depends
[01:27] <zgmf-x20a> BluesKaj: really?  argh.  and i have that web posting... ive been thru it a few times already trying to get this tow work, so i will unistall what i installed and go from there.
[01:28] <solarwaver> kkathman i do it abd it said permision denied
[01:29] <BluesKaj> zgmf-x20a, yeah possibly your best bet ...sorry i couldn't help ...think I'll stay out of nvidia prob situ's from now on :(
[01:29] <kkathman> solarwaver:  sudo :)
[01:29] <zgmf-x20a> BluesKaj: lol....  aight well i uninstalled those, and i will try again with ctrl alt f2, brb
[01:30] <solarwaver> when i put sudo it return me comand not found
[01:30] <kkathman> solarwaver:  sorry I was in err -    sudo chmod +x filename
[01:31] <zgmf-x20a> BluesKaj: ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH  same error!!!!
[01:31] <zgmf-x20a> BluesKaj: man o man... i wonder how other ppl get these things to work sometimes.
[01:32] <BluesKaj> zgmf-x20a, what nvidia card is it ?
[01:32] <zgmf-x20a> BluesKaj: it is the nvidia geforce 8600m gs on my laptop, which is the asus f3sv-a1 model
[01:33] <solarwaver> it does not work
[01:33] <kkathman> BluesKaj:  I think he needs to make sure he's got the build stuff, exit to console (ctrl-alt-f1), stop X (sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop) then execute the sh NVIDIA file and be sure to answer to compile the interface and NOT download it
[01:33] <tes_> hi 2 all
[01:34] <solarwaver> any good converter for mkv files?
[01:34] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: ok, should i give that a go and let you know what happens?
[01:35] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  be sure you do one thing first :  back up your xorg.conf file in /etc/X11
[01:35] <tes_> can somebody help me: music from amarok etc sounds great, but in linux games it hisses
[01:35] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: i dont know how to do that, how do i do that?
[01:35] <tes_> i choosed ALSA in sound controls
[01:36] <izzyb_> I just installed Gutsy Tribe 5.  overall it seems very responsive, but the adapt installer is really slow and unresponsive.  is this a known issue?
[01:36] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  at a console  1) cd /etc/X11     2) cp xorg.conf  xorg.conf.backup
[01:37] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: i had an error.  "cp: cannot create regular file `xorg.conf.backup': Permission denied"
[01:37] <Biovore> zgmf-x20a: try sudo
[01:38] <BluesKaj> ok zgmf-x20a :  sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.09-pkg1.run -x
[01:38] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  then if you experience problems after the other stuff, remove the xorg.conf and copy the backup back:  1) cd /etc/X11  2) rm -f xorg.conf   3) cp xorg.conf,backup  xorg.conf
[01:38] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  when you get those messages you need to always preface with sudo
[01:38] <xp_killer> stdin: i have like 1000 file exe how can i decompres them all together?
[01:39] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  in general outside your home directory you'll need sudo to execute things
[01:39] <Level15> hey
[01:39] <Biovore> xp_killer: you make it with winzip?
[01:39] <Level15> i need a hand on setting my bluetooth headset on my box...
[01:39] <Level15> ssup
[01:40] <xp_killer> dont have winzip or winwar
[01:40] <Schuenemann> what can I do so everytime I hit Ctrl + Alt + D it actually minimises all windows?
[01:41] <zgmf-x20a> ok so kkathman i did that, and returned me back to the prompt zgmf-x20a@zgmf-x20a:/etc/X11$ immediately after.
[01:41] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  ok if you are still there- do an    ls     and you'll see the file that you hopefully created
[01:41] <zgmf-x20a> BluesKaj: now as for the command you gave me, i tried it from home, and it does the exact same thing, uncompresses the files, but this time, it does not even bring me to the installation screen at all, it simply returns to the prompt
[01:42] <xp_killer> Schuenemann: u want the shortcut to minimize all windows?
[01:42] <Schuenemann> xp_killer, exacly
[01:42] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: i see a file "xorg.conf.backup " is there, thats it correct?
[01:42] <Schuenemann> it's boring to have them restored after I run something
[01:42] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  good  thats correct
[01:42] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: awesome
[01:43] <BluesKaj> yeah there are some libs missing from the downloaded driver ..just saw something aboutit ..i think kkathman is on the right path here ...maybe his advice will do the trick :)
[01:43] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  I'll tell you what a very wise fella once told me - you cant operate linux without knowing the command line (so learn those basic commands - they will save you) :)
[01:44] <Schuenemann> xp_killer, how's it?
[01:44] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: so now, do the ctrl alt f1 command, then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop command to stop x, then from prompt the sh command to get the installer going correct????
[01:44] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: lol, i am im coming along, ive got some things down, just have to practise more often
[01:45] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  well Im hoping that you have all the compile tools
[01:45] <zgmf-x20a> lol
[01:45] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  did you see my post that said what to do if this doesnt work?
[01:45] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: how would i check if i have them or not?
[01:45] <BluesKaj> kkathman, i just read that there are some libs missing in the downloaded driver
[01:45] <kkathman> BluesKaj:  were you able to figure out if he has all the stuff?
[01:46] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: 1) cd /etc/X11  2) rm -f xorg.conf   3) cp xorg.conf,backup  xorg.conf correct?
[01:46] <d347hm4n> ok whats the deal, how do i get compiz and flash working
[01:46] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  correct
[01:46] <xp_killer> Schuenemann: im still looking for the shortcut in keyboard & mouse.my own is working allready to minimize all windows it was by default
[01:46] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: cool.  so, what about the comile tools you were speaking about?
[01:46] <kkathman> so go give it a try, and follow the prompts normally but be sure you tell it you want to COMPILE your interface NOT download it
[01:46] <Schuenemann> xp_killer, the default behavior isn't minimise all windows, it's show desktop
[01:47] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  worst case it will abort and you'll reboot and come back (probably wont need those other things I told you about)
[01:48] <xp_killer> Schuenemann: well i havent add a short cup to none of my thing and the ctrl alt d works
[01:48] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: ok sounds good, hopefully it asks if i want o compile or download... lol.
[01:48] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: ok, here goes nothing, brb
[01:48] <Schuenemann> xp_killer, if you hit ctrl alt d and then run an icon on your desktop, does it restore any window?
[01:49] <xp_killer> Schuenemann: yes it does
[01:50] <Schuenemann> xp_killer, so, it doesn't actually minimise the windows... :-/
[01:50] <xp_killer> Schuenemann: u dont want it to restore them ?is that it?
[01:50] <Schuenemann> yes
[01:52] <bitlost> is it true i don't need an antivirus in linux?
[01:52] <izzyb_> yes
[01:52] <xp_killer> Schuenemann: so why u dont have 2 desktop?
[01:52] <GoodHabit> How to install restricted extras on amd64 platform?
[01:53] <xp_killer> virus
[01:53] <xp_killer> !virus
[01:53] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[01:53] <bitlost> absolutely 100% safe? even with no antivirus?
[01:53] <xp_killer> bitlost: ^^
[01:53] <Schuenemann> xp_killer, I don't need 2
[01:54] <hitmanWilly> bitlost, viruses are basically non-existant for nix
[01:54] <Schuenemann> bitlost, safeness isn't exacly related to viruses
[01:54] <bitlost> thanks.. will now read
[01:54] <xp_killer> Schuenemann: 2desktop is faster
[01:55] <izzyb_> no thoughts on why adept installer would be slow and unresponsive in gutsy 5?
[01:55] <Schuenemann> I don't like having 2
[01:55] <xp_killer> Schuenemann: insted of ctrl+alt+d
[01:55] <xp_killer> Schuenemann: just role the mouse and u clear to go
[01:55] <d347hm4n> is there a reference anywhere for 64-bit flash in kubuntu?
[01:55] <xp_killer> Schuenemann: lol so have 3 then
[01:55] <Schuenemann> I don't want my windows on 2 desktops... it becomes harder to manage
[01:56] <hitmanWilly> !64
[01:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 64 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:56] <hitmanWilly> !amd
[01:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:56] <hitmanWilly> !amd64
[01:56] <ubotu> AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[01:56] <stdin> !flash64
[01:56] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[01:56] <xp_killer> Schuenemann: i dont see wa is hard in it
[01:56] <hitmanWilly> that's what i was looking for :)
[01:56] <d347hm4n> yea
[01:57] <xp_killer> stdin: do u understand french?
[01:57] <stdin> xp_killer: no
[01:58] <d347hm4n> thanks
[01:58] <d347hm4n> hope it werks
[01:59] <xp_killer> stdin: k.i havent problem understandin the search for files thing
[02:00] <xp_killer> stdin: like for example i lookin for a video name "sean paul" and i type sean it doesnt find the video do i have to rite the complet name?
[02:00] <stdin> xp_killer: you know there is a #kubuntu-fr and a #ubuntu-fr yes?
[02:01] <xp_killer> stdin: i know.i ask no answer so i came here
[02:02] <stdin> anyway, I don't use kfind, so I can't help with that
[02:02] <bitlost> so basically if im careful with root access a virus cant live here... right?
[02:02] <xp_killer> yes
[02:03] <xp_killer> but cant do nothing
[02:03] <xp_killer> :)
[02:03] <hitmanWilly> bitlost, worst case scenario, it eats your home folder
[02:03] <stdin> bitlost: there really aren't any viruses for linux anyway, and if you did actually manage to get one, it could only damage your files, not the systems
[02:04] <bitlost> yay... goodbye hors and hours cleaning virus infection to finally have to reinstall xp :D
[02:04] <bitlost> that's hours not hors
[02:04] <hitmanWilly> bitlost, welcome to the beauty of linux :)
[02:05] <stdin> bitlost: no need to de-fragment in linux either :)
[02:05] <bitlost> reallly??? no defrag???
[02:05] <hitmanWilly> stdin, at least not with journaled fs's :)
[02:05] <stdin> yep, not with ext3
[02:05] <bitlost> double yay
[02:06] <Cannoli> can someone please help me, my kubuntu display is completley messed up.
[02:06] <Cannoli> here is a screenie
[02:06] <Cannoli> http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e331/TMD-Cannoli/snapshot4.jpg
[02:06] <hitmanWilly> bitlost, basically, a journaled file system, like most on linux are, keeps it from getting fragmented in the first place
[02:07] <Cannoli> i recently installed the ati driver
[02:07] <bitlost> what is journaled file system?
[02:07] <Cannoli> i think thats whts causeing it to mess up
[02:07] <BluesKaj>  a caution , if you plan on dual booting window/linux then windows will still need anti virus
[02:08] <hitmanWilly> bitlost, its sort of like having a secretary for your filesystem, vice how a non-journaled system, like windows uses, just throws the files anywhere
[02:09] <stdin> hitmanWilly: nice explanation :)
[02:09] <bitlost> will install an av on the old window$
[02:09] <hitmanWilly> stdin, best i could come up with on short notice
[02:09] <bitlost> love my journaled thingie :D
[02:09] <stdin> hitmanWilly: no, it's actually very good, I'm going to steel it :p
[02:09] <BluesKaj> the filesystem is like a tree with branches , not with notes on the branches telling where to find the files :)
[02:10] <Cannoli> stdin can u please help m
[02:10] <Cannoli> me*
[02:10] <hitmanWilly> stdin, its under creative commons, so go for it :P
[02:10] <stdin> Cannoli: I looked, I have no clue why that would happen. does it happen with the free driver?
[02:10] <Cannoli> iunno
[02:10] <Cannoli> i just foloowed the !ati instructions
[02:11] <Cannoli> and it worked for a bit
[02:11] <Cannoli> but i just loaded lkubuntu and its like this
[02:11] <Cannoli> kubuntu*
[02:11] <Cannoli> is there any way i can go back to the default generic driver?
[02:12] <xp_killer> Cannoli: did u restart to see?
[02:12] <dwidmann|terra> Cannoli: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:12] <Cannoli> yes xp
[02:12] <stdin> Cannoli: or, press Alt-F2 and type in "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and change the "Driver "fglrx"" to "Driver "ati""
[02:14] <zgmf-x20a> ok so kkathman and BluesKaj you guys still here?
[02:14] <kkathman> yep
[02:14] <zgmf-x20a> cool... so the saga continues... lol
[02:14] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  so what was the result
[02:16] <BluesKaj> zgmf-x20a, that depends ....   :)
[02:17] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: so now im met with a new error.  the installation went find, everything worked properly.  and yes it does ask you if you want to download, and first time around i selected no, second time i selected yes, but it didnt find anything anyways.  in either scenario however, it came up with the same error message when trying to start x after rebooting.  it said "Error: API mismatch: this nvidia driver
[02:17] <zgmf-x20a> component is version 100.14.09, but the nvidia kernal modules version does not match.  please make sure that the kernal module and all nvidia driver components have the same version"
[02:18] <Cannoli> stdin: then wht?
[02:18] <Cannoli> i saved and closed it
[02:18] <stdin> Cannoli: then logout and choose "Restart X server" from the login menu
[02:18] <Cannoli> kk
[02:19] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  edit your xorg.conf and see if in t changed your driver designation from "nv" to "nvivdia"
[02:19] <thomas_> OK i got Wine installed but when I try to run Warcraft III it runs, but is very slow and has no sound
[02:20] <soulrider> !partitions
[02:20] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[02:20] <thomas_> also I get many errors when I do it through console
[02:20] <soulrider> what command cna i use to see all partitions on all drives ?
[02:20] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  it will be in the device section under your monitor
[02:21] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: sorry what?  how do i do that?  also, o get my display back i used the reconfigure xorg command so i could get back in here and reset everything, just so you guys know.  i had no other ideqas of how else to get my display back
[02:21] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  hehe well that works (but copying that xorg back would have too
[02:21] <soulrider> !grub
[02:22] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:22] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: lol... but i wouldnt know how to copy it back without having a display
[02:22] <thomas_> OK i got Wine installed but when I try to run Warcraft III it runs, but is very slow and has no sound
[02:22] <zgmf-x20a> kk ok so anyways, what do i have to do to make it work?
[02:22] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  go to konqeror file management, navigate to /etc/X11  and right click on xorg.conf and look under the device section just below the monitor section
[02:22] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  you did have a console tho right?
[02:23] <ehc> how do I make portable media (cds, flash drives etc.) show up on the desktop?
[02:23] <BluesKaj> soulrider, df -h
[02:24] <soulrider> BluesKaj, wont that list the size of the mounted ones?
[02:24] <kkathman> ehc I think you can go to kcontrol- appeance and themes- icons?
[02:25] <BluesKaj> yeah soulrider
[02:25] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: yes, i had console when i went thru that whole thing, thats how i got that message about the error and would try typing start x and that error came up.  also, for this right click on the xorg.conf file, it doesnt bring up anything likt that, its just the usual copy, paste, etc
[02:25] <kkathman> ehc no no - sorry - kcontrol - desktop - behavior - device icons
[02:26] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  right click and should be an option "open with"   just open with kate or kword to view
[02:26] <soulrider> BluesKaj, i forgot to add an ONLY at the end
[02:26] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman:
[02:26] <zgmf-x20a> Section "Device"
[02:26] <zgmf-x20a> 	Identifier	"Generic Video Card"
[02:26] <zgmf-x20a> 	Driver		"vesa"
[02:26] <zgmf-x20a> 	BusID		"PCI:1:0:0"
[02:27] <Jucato> !paste | zgmf-x20a
[02:27] <ubotu> zgmf-x20a: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:27] <zgmf-x20a> Jucato: omg its only a few lines, relax
[02:27] <ehc> kkathman, thanks
[02:27] <kkathman> sure :)
[02:28] <hitmanWilly> zgmf-x20a, anything over three needs to go in a pastebin
[02:28] <zgmf-x20a> really?  ok, ill just type it out next time
[02:28] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  well ok thats the prob I reckon... see its not recognizing that you have nvidia
[02:29] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: yes exactly, but if i cant start x after installing the driver, what am i to do?
[02:29] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  are you in X  and kde now?
[02:29] <zgmf-x20a> yes
[02:29] <ehc> kkathman, can I show only device icons and not files or programs?
[02:29] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: i reconfiged xorg to get my display back
[02:30] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  ok,   kcontrol - Peripherals- Monitor & Display then tell me when you get there
[02:30] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: without it i would be lost.. lol
[02:30] <BluesKaj> zgmf-x20a, kkathman , at least there's no conflict with old nvidia drivers ...that can be a prob
[02:30] <kkathman> BluesKaj:  hes on a generic tho
[02:30] <kkathman> so yeah
[02:31] <BluesKaj> so no drivers in the repos for the card ?
[02:31] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: where is k control?  do you just mean system settings and monitors and displays?
[02:31] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  alt-f2 and type kcontrol
[02:32] <osky> hola hay alguien por aqui?
[02:32] <zgmf-x20a> which section would you like information from kkathman?
[02:32] <stdin> !es | osky
[02:32] <ubotu> osky: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:32] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  ok now in the lower left corner - click on administrator mode and type in your password
[02:33] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: yup, and go to hardware im assuming?
[02:33] <kkathman> yep
[02:33] <zgmf-x20a> ok, and what here?
[02:33] <kkathman> click on the configue button zgmf-x20a
[02:33] <kkathman> next to the graphics card of course
[02:33] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: ok, done
[02:34] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  now look in the list and see if you find your card
[02:34] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  under nvidia of course
[02:35] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: yup i went to manufactuer, hten nvidia, but there is nothing beyond the 7 series
[02:35] <kkathman> rats
[02:35] <kkathman> ok
[02:35] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  try choosing the generic nvidia then
[02:35] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: yah, bc mine is the 8600m gs make
[02:36] <BluesKaj> wonder if you need the NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'new' driver
[02:36] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: which generic nvidia? there are a few to choose from here
[02:36] <hitmanWilly> yeah, the 8000's need the -new driver
[02:37] <kkathman> hitmanWilly:  yah  hes got that
[02:37] <d347hm4n> hell the 7300 needs the new driver
[02:37] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  not the legacy
[02:37] <BluesKaj> zgmf-x20a, is yours a quadro series
[02:37] <hitmanWilly> no it doesn't, it just suggests you use it :)
[02:37] <kkathman> you should always use the latest drivers tho IMHO
[02:37] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: yes i installled those earlier, and posted the ls on those items.  and no, i di not use legacy
[02:38] <kkathman> right you dont want to choose legacy :)
[02:38] <zgmf-x20a> cool.  and as for the quatro.... im honestly not sure
[02:39] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: so if i were to choose a generic driver, then go thru the shutting down x, trying to install the driver, etc, it wil work??
[02:39] <zgmf-x20a> a generic nvidia card that is
[02:40] <zgmf-x20a> erm driver
[02:40] <zgmf-x20a> lol
[02:41] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  well if could be worth a try - see right now your xorg.conf has generic in it and it should at the very least have "nv"
[02:41] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  did you say you got the thing to compile??
[02:41] <hitmanWilly> the nv driver doesn't work with 8000 cards
[02:41] <kkathman> hitmanWilly:  oh crap yer right
[02:41] <kkathman> forgot that
[02:41] <BluesKaj> kkathman, what about using synaptic or adept to install the driver ?
[02:42] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: well right now its on vesa, nv messes the screen up.  and yes it did compile and install absolutely fine.  BUT when trying to start x it gave me that error message that i posted when i got back
[02:42] <hitmanWilly> apt-get install nvidia-glx-new should work
[02:42] <kkathman> BluesKaj:  well he said he went through the regular ubuntu setup in the wiki
[02:42] <kkathman> thats worth a try too zgmf-x20a
[02:42] <zgmf-x20a> hitmanWilly: no that doesnt work, i tried that already
[02:42] <hydrogen>  the 8000's require nvidia drivers 100. ?
[02:42] <hydrogen> probably
[02:42] <kkathman> try the apt-get that hitmanWilly just posted
[02:43] <kkathman> cant hurt
[02:43] <hydrogen> and the 100 series drivers are only in gutsy
[02:43] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: i have done that in the beggining with the walk thur, but i will do it again
[02:44] <hitmanWilly> zgmf-x20a, once that's done, try running sudo nvidia-xconfig
[02:44] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[02:44] <kkathman> hitmanWilly:  you see any reason he should uninstall what he's got first?
[02:45] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: and BluesKaj ok, i have tried that .. again.. and ok, i will try that command now hitmanWilly.  last time i did it deselected the proper installation packages...
[02:45] <kkathman> hitmanWilly:  he has 4 of the 5 files just not the nvidia-kernel thing
[02:45] <zgmf-x20a> hitmanWilly: ok i typed that and got this message
[02:45] <zgmf-x20a> Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf".
[02:45] <zgmf-x20a> Backed up file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' as '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'
[02:45] <zgmf-x20a> New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.con
[02:46] <hitmanWilly> kkathman, ok, how about he installs linux-restricted-modules?
[02:46] <zgmf-x20a> that was only 3 lines so i didnt need paste bin!  haha
[02:46] <BluesKaj> NVIDIA binary 'new' kernel module source
[02:46] <flaccid> blob
[02:46] <zgmf-x20a> hitmanWilly: i did that too early, i checked to see if it was installed in adept, it says it is
[02:46] <kkathman> hitmanWilly:  I think he did
[02:47] <hitmanWilly> yeah, that should come automatically with the driver
[02:47] <kkathman> I used envy when I installed mine
[02:47] <zgmf-x20a> i followed that guide to the word and didnt work whatsoever
[02:47] <hitmanWilly> well, im still running 7000 cards here, so I don't really know all the 8000 quirks
[02:47] <BluesKaj> envy usually doesn't work on feisty
[02:48] <kkathman> well I guess it worked for me :)
[02:49] <kkathman> BluesKaj:  but its mixed signals on my system cuz xorg says I have nvidia, and I can verify 3d acceleration, but kcontol says I have nv so who knows?
[02:49] <BluesKaj> yeah, didn't work on ati
[02:49] <christopher> could someone help me with my grub bootloader, if refuses to boot vista now
[02:50] <zgmf-x20a> so kkathman BluesKaj hitmanWilly should i try going with a generic driver from nvidia, and then trying to install the proper driver again, and hopefully i can start x?
[02:50] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  well you've got X started if yer in kde :)
[02:50] <kkathman> and its the generic driver too
[02:50] <BluesKaj> christopher , pastebin your  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:51] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: yes, i have x up and running right now, but remember that is becasue i reconfig xorg to get it back, and the proper drievs did not install b/c:
[02:51] <zgmf-x20a> "Error: API mismatch: this nvidia driver
[02:51] <zgmf-x20a> [20:17]  <zgmf-x20a> component is version 100.14.09, but the nvidia kernal modules version does not match.  please make sure that the kernal module and all nvidia driver components have the same version"
[02:52] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a: yep thats because you didnt have the nvidia kernel module that I mentioned
[02:53] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: yup, and isnt that what we were looking for in the list?  and so if its not there should i go with a generic one that is listed and retry, or is there a place i can get this module?
[02:53] <BluesKaj> zgmf-x20a, sudo apt-get install nvidia-new-kernel-source
[02:53] <zgmf-x20a> BluesKaj: ok one moment
[02:53] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  do this real quick -  go to a konsole and type uname -a and tell me what kernel you have
[02:54] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: it says"Linux zgmf-x20a 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Fri Aug 31 00:55:27 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux"
[02:54] <christopher> title		Windows vista
[02:54] <christopher> rootnoverify (hd0,0)
[02:54] <christopher> makeactive
[02:54] <christopher> chainloader +1
[02:54] <christopher> boot
[02:54] <kkathman> ok kewl
[02:54] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  do this then    sudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-2.6.20-16-generic
[02:55] <zgmf-x20a> E: Couldn't find package nvidia-kernel-2.6.20-16-generic    kkathman
[02:55] <kkathman> aha
[02:55] <kkathman> you dont have the repositories enabled
[02:55] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: !!?!?!?!  huh!?  it says they are in adept!
[02:55] <BluesKaj> !pastebin | christopher ... want to see the whole file
[02:55] <ubotu> christopher ... want to see the whole file: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:56] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: are you serious..... i cant believe that was the issue all along....
[02:57] <christopher> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36966/
[02:57] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  do this ---  open your sources manually - kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.lst
[02:58] <christopher> BluesKaj, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36966/
[02:58] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: ok it is open, but the document is blank????
[02:58] <kkathman> huh??
[02:58] <zgmf-x20a> seriously i kid you not, its blank
[02:58] <kkathman> ohh oops typo
[02:58] <kkathman> my bad
[02:59] <kkathman> sources.list
[02:59] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: lol
[02:59] <hitmanWilly> zgmf-x20a, that's a l, not a 1
[02:59] <kkathman> lol
[02:59] <kkathman> gah
[02:59] <hitmanWilly> oh, nm, too much grub lately lol
[02:59] <kkathman> you'll need to look in there and see if you see lines with "restricted" on the end
[03:00] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  like this:  deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-updates main restricted
[03:01] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: im actually having an issue now getting that command to work... it freezes and does not bring me back to prompt
[03:01] <christopher> BluesKaj, i'm sorry, did I post it correctly
[03:02] <kkathman> hmm very odd
[03:02] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: yahhhh very i think i broke my terminal!!!
[03:02] <BluesKaj> yes christopher , but it looks fine to me ...dunno why it's not giving you the vista option
[03:02] <zgmf-x20a> lol
[03:02] <kkathman> probably not
[03:03] <christopher> it gives me the vista option but does not boot, in fact it reboots
[03:03] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: ok yah still works, just did sudo apt-getupdate to see if it was ok
[03:04] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: so what command should i try to get the sources list up?
[03:04] <BluesKaj> christopher, comment out the 'boot' below chainloader
[03:04] <christopher> BluesKaj, ok
[03:04] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  well, goto your alt-f2  and  type    kdesu kate
[03:05] <christopher> BluesKaj, now, vista is on partition one, is that what i have in grub?
[03:05] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  then let that come up, and then OPEN  /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:05] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: wait, can i type this in?  kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:05] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  you should be able to yes
[03:06] <BluesKaj> christopher , there was an article about vista not using the MBR like XP does ...perhaps you could check with the ppl at #Vista
[03:06] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: what the heck!?  thats the command i used before for doing this and now doesnt work either!!  uh oh...
[03:06] <christopher> BluesKaj, ok
[03:07] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a: ok just alt-f2 and do   kdesu kate
[03:08] <zgmf-x20a> there we go, ok im there
[03:08] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: would you like me to pastebin the contents?
[03:09] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  well first, look in there and see if you have any of those lines that have "restricted" on the end of them
[03:09] <kingrayray> is there a quick and easy way to get rid of all the gnome/gtk crap from my k-menu?
[03:10] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: yes i do have lines with restricted on them
[03:11] <john> hello all
[03:11] <xp_killer> update
[03:11] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  ok then please pastebin the contents and let me see :)
[03:11] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: sounds good, one moment
[03:11] <john> i want to intall 3d beryl desktop.....where can i get this?
[03:12] <darksandman> jel ima neko iz hrvatske ili srbije???????????????????????///
[03:12] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36967/
[03:12] <ch40s> !beryl
[03:12] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:13] <xp_killer> john: install it from adept manager
[03:13] <john> ubuntu, im not uses to it......how can i find it on adept/
[03:14] <xp_killer> john: u on ubuntu or kubuntu?
[03:14] <john> kubuntu
[03:14] <xp_killer> john: go to K-menu>system>adept manager
[03:15] <john> ok
[03:16] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  ok found the prob
[03:16] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: whats up?
[03:16] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  add these two lines to your sources.list, then save:
[03:16] <kkathman> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-updates main restricted
[03:16] <kkathman> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-updates main restricted
[03:16] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: at the end??
[03:16] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  yeah thats fine
[03:17] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  save and do another sudo apt-get update
[03:17] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  then retry your sudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-2.6.20-16-generic
[03:17] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: ok, here goes
[03:18] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: same error... "E: Couldn't find package nvidia-kernel-2.6.20-16-generic"
[03:19] <kkathman> ok let me look some more in your sources...you must be missing something else
[03:19] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: ok, should i repaste?
[03:19] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  nah I got it
[03:19] <john> xp_killer: i search beryl on adept manager...how do i install it?
[03:19] <kkathman> give me a few
[03:20] <MadDog011> how do you enable desktop sharing in kubuntu?!
[03:20] <xp_killer> stdin: wen i the pc starts reach to the grub it has 4kernel on 2 of the same the 2 that has show up has an option saying recovery mode or something how do i get rid of them?
[03:21] <stdin> xp_killer: you don't, you want the recovery mode options
[03:21] <xp_killer> john: if u see beryl clic on the names it will scrool down clic on install when u done choosen what u need press aply that is next to preview change
[03:22] <xp_killer> stdin: it has 2 recovery options do i need them?
[03:23] <xp_killer> stdin: how can i show u what shows on the grub boot page?
[03:23] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  uhm... go ahead and paste that file again please
[03:23] <stdin> xp_killer: you want at least 2 kernels installed at any one time, one that you are using and one older one in case the the newer one breaks
[03:24] <stdin> xp_killer: for each kernel installed there will be 2 entries, one normal and one recovery mode
[03:24] <xp_killer> oh ok
[03:24] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: cool sounds good
[03:24] <zgmf-x20a> lol
[03:24] <xp_killer> stdin: so whats the difference betwen 2 kernel?the old and new?
[03:25] <stdin> xp_killer: one is older than the other...
[03:25] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36968/
[03:25] <xp_killer> stdin: one day it just show up like that
[03:25] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  man yer sources are just like mine otherwise except I have awn and compiz added
[03:25] <kkathman> lemme check this dump
[03:25] <xp_killer> !kernel
[03:25] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[03:25] <stdin> xp_killer: that's because there was an update and it installed a newer kernel version
[03:26] <xp_killer> ok
[03:26] <tekstacy> can I run something that says it is GTK based? A package that was ment for ubuntu
[03:26] <Jucato> tekstacy: yes. no problems with that.
[03:26] <stdin> tekstacy: GTK/Gnome apps run fine on Kubuntu, and Qt/KDE apps run fine on Ubuntu
[03:26] <Jucato> it will just install the necessary GTK+/GNOME packages
[03:27] <tekstacy> cool, thanks guys
[03:27] <xp_killer> stdin: can i put my xp to be second?after linux?because its a long way down to choose xp
[03:27] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  so strange - they look just fine yet you arent getting that particular package and I bet you arent getting the libs either
[03:28] <stdin> xp_killer: no, you can have it 1st or last, but not in the middle. you can make it the default option selected if you want too
[03:28] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: probably not, and i have nooooooo idea how to fix such a thing
[03:28] <tekstacy> oic, it installed the program, and like 100 other things
[03:28] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  I cant seem to tell what repo that package is supposed to be in
[03:29] <xp_killer> stdin: so if i put xp first linux that i choose will go last?
[03:29] <kkathman> its in the x11/non-free section but dont know which repo :)
[03:29] <stdin> xp_killer: if you put the entry for xp before the line "### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST" then it will be first
[03:29] <zgmf-x20a> how many repos are there?? kkathman
[03:30] <john> xp_killer: what do i do next? after press aply that is next to preview change
[03:30] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  well there are alot, but only a certain number are supported
[03:30] <xp_killer> stdin: if i upgrade to 7.10 will it add another kernel?
[03:30] <xp_killer> john: did it install?
[03:31] <stdin> xp_killer: yeah
[03:31] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: hmmm that def does not help then, cant add the non supported ones and just see what happens.. lol
[03:31] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  I thought that adept would tell me what repos a package was in, but it doesnt
[03:31] <kkathman> lemme try something else
[03:31] <xp_killer> john: so witch mean i could be going back in fort to 7.10 to 7.04?
[03:32] <EightiesK> !VMware
[03:32] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[03:32] <zgmf-x20a> i as just trying that out right now aw well
[03:32] <john> xp_killer: it shows that it is installed on the adept manager list
[03:32] <xp_killer> john: check in the K-menu to see if u got a red crystal in system
[03:33] <john> no
[03:33] <john> xp_killer: on
[03:33] <john> xp_killer: no*
[03:33] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: what about nvidia new kernal source?
[03:34] <xp_killer> john: install in adept manager beryl for kubuntu,beryl manager,
[03:35] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  lemme go eat and i'll be back..  in the meantime - try going into your kmenu - system and launch the synaptic package manager and search for nvidia and see what comes up - I'll be back in 30 or so
[03:36] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: ok that sounds good, and im going to grab a bite as well, this issue has made me hungry... lol
[03:42] <kgx> hey. is there a software license that desribes a software as being free to districbute, but restricts it being modified or decompiled?
[03:43] <hydrogen> mm
[03:43] <hydrogen> pick almost any freeware project out there
[03:43] <hydrogen> and theres your license
[03:44] <Jucato> yeah... that would be probably called a "proprietary license" :)
[03:45] <kgx> most random ones i can think of can be modified and those that can't have their own little license agreement that says it can't be be modified...i guess i should just write something similar :)
[03:45] <xp_killer> john: alors?
[03:45] <hydrogen> or just open it up to the public
[03:46] <hydrogen> public domain++
[03:46] <Jucato> freeware is not the same as free software
[03:47] <hydrogen> one might think of freeware as freebeer(tm)
[03:47] <Jucato> hydrogen: public domain won't restrict modification and decompiling right? it has no restrictions at all?
[03:47] <Jucato> hm.. anyway offtopic hehehe
[03:47] <hydrogen> Jucato: yea
[03:48] <hydrogen> public domain is "I claim no rights over this what soever"
[03:48] <hydrogen> maybe thats one word
[03:48] <Jucato> yeah, it is :P
[03:53] <john> xp_killer: i install beryl for kubuntu, how do i get the cube?
[03:54] <EightiesK> middle click and drag
[03:55] <bobleny> Hi!
[03:57] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: when you get back, i am trying out a theory if im not here when you get back, but ill brb... hopefully i dont mangle up my system trying this...
[03:58] <bobleny> I have a question, I just installed Ubuntu on a laptop, and pluged in my ethernet cable... I went to network setting to set up the network. Problem is though, there is no Network interfaces.... I don't know what to do?
[03:59] <john> i need help with beryl?
[03:59] <bobleny> Do you john?
[03:59] <hitmanWilly> bobleny, what does ifconfig show?
[03:59] <EightiesK> !ntfs-g3
[03:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs-g3 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:59] <xp_killer> john: u didnt install all?
[04:00] <EightiesK> !ntfs-3g
[04:00] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[04:00] <Jucato> !beryl | john
[04:00] <ubotu> john: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:00] <john> bobleny: yes.... i install beryl for kubuntu
[04:01] <bobleny> hitmanwilly, what info should I get from ifconfig?
[04:02] <hitmanWilly> bobleny, it should show you all your network interfaces, up or down
[04:03] <xp_killer> stdin: where can i paste a pic to show someone?
[04:03] <hitmanWilly> bobleny, could you pastebin the output of ifconfig?
[04:03] <hitmanWilly> !paste | bobleny
[04:03] <ubotu> bobleny: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:03] <Jucato> xp_killer: http://imageshack.us perhaps
[04:03] <bobleny> Yeah, I'm working on it....
[04:04] <hitmanWilly> ok :)
[04:04] <josue> good evening, how to prevent ubuntu automatically mount the windows partitions at startup?
[04:07] <stdin> josue: edit /etc/fstab and remove the "auto" option from the line(s) describing the windows partition(s)
[04:08] <xp_killer> josue: this is all what i install to get beryl working: clic --------> http://img458.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot3cl9.png
[04:08] <josue> stdin: there is no "auto" option in the lines of the ntfs volumes
[04:09] <bobleny> Sigh... I forgot how to mount my flash drive...
[04:09] <stdin> josue: then they won't mount at boot...
[04:09] <xp_killer> john:  : this is all what i install to get beryl working: clic --------> http://img458.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot3cl9.png
[04:10] <josue> stdin: they are mounting each time ubuntu starts
[04:10] <bobleny> sda!
[04:10] <stdin> bobleny: use pmount: "pmount /dev/sda1 flash-drive" for instance, will mount /dev/sda1 as /media/flash-drive
[04:10] <hydrogen> stdin: err, you have it backwards
[04:10] <hydrogen> you need to explicitly add 'noauto'
[04:10] <hydrogen> for it not to mount at boot
[04:11] <josue> this the /etc/fstab for those partitions: http://rafb.net/p/eIZwth42.html
[04:11] <hydrogen> after the locale=blah add ,noauto
[04:11] <stdin> hydrogen: that's only if one uses the "defaults" option
[04:11] <hydrogen> or ,noauto,user
[04:11] <hydrogen> to mount as user
[04:12] <hydrogen> to be able to mount as user
[04:12] <hydrogen> stdin: which most everyone does..
[04:12] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: ok... no more theories... that was a scary moment...
[04:13] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  ok yeah Im back
[04:13] <bobleny> No wonder it wouldnt mount, it wasn't pluged in all the way....
[04:13] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: did you read my posts... had a theory... was a BAD theory... made bad things happen
[04:14] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  did you happen to open up synaptic and search nvidia?
[04:14] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: actually wait, its still installed and i booted this time... hmm, let me see soemthing then,,,
[04:14] <john> xp_killer: ok, i think i need to install alittle bit more then
[04:17] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: no i didnt get to do that,  i had a theory that i could install that nvidia new kernal source package, which i did, and it did change the hardware to nvidia on its own after doing so, but then i wanted to try and install the driver, but trying to shut down x came with a series of errors, and then it would auto restart everytime at the splash screen.  so i went into safe mode, areconfig xorg again,
[04:17] <zgmf-x20a> and now it is vesa hardware, but the package is still installed
[04:18] <bobleny> Ok hitmanwilly, sorry it took me so long... :'(    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36971/plain/
[04:18] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  lol, well good thinking tho
[04:18] <kkathman> we have to get the kernel module installed
[04:19] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: yah thought i would give a go, see if it worked, but i giess that module is not part of that package
[04:19] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  open up the synaptic package manager under the kmenu system
[04:19] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: i have adept though, i dont have synapetic
[04:19] <tekstacy> does k monitor temp and control fan speed in my laptop as good as xp?
[04:20] <hitmanWilly> bobleny, ok, it looks like the driver for your ethernet card isn't loading, all that's listed is the loopback
[04:20] <xp_killer> synatic is not that good
[04:20] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  you should have synaptic too I think...check under kmenu  then system
[04:20] <bobleny> Hitmanwilly, ok, what can I do?
[04:21] <hitmanWilly> bobleny, do you know the brand/model of the laptop?
[04:21] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: nope, just adept on this one
[04:21] <bobleny> IBM thinkpad...
[04:21] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  ok... well start the adept package manager then (not the updater)
[04:22] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: however, i do now have the nvidia x server settings
[04:22] <hitmanWilly> bobleny, ok, i would suggest googling for the exact make/model of ethernet card, and installing the driver module for it
[04:22] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  ok lets just take a peek at the adept settings
[04:22] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  open adept package manager
[04:23] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: yup im in the package manager
[04:23] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  ok - click on Adept on the menu and then mange repositories
[04:23] <hitmanWilly> bobleny, it may even be already installed, just not loading
[04:23] <kkathman> cleverly enough this is the same gnome screen in synaptic :)
[04:23] <bobleny> How do I know?
[04:24] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: yup
[04:24] <kkathman> ok got that?
[04:24] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: yes im there
[04:24] <hitmanWilly> bobleny, heh, try modprobing the module and see if it loads
[04:24] <john> xp_killer: ok i have a red crystal in system
[04:24] <kkathman> ok double check that  the third option down is checked - in fact they ALL should be marked
[04:25] <hitmanWilly> bobleny, actually, can you pastebin the output of lspci
[04:25] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: there are only 3 listings there.  2 are for cdrom and the third is for skype
[04:25] <xp_killer> john: it's the red one u have to clic on
[04:26] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  ok you have the wrong tab
[04:26] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: im in the "third party software" tab
[04:26] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a: ckick on the Kubuntu Software Tab
[04:27] <zgmf-x20a> ooo kkathman sorry.  yes they are all checked off
[04:27] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a: ok kewl
[04:27] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a: back to the main screen
[04:28] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: ok im there
[04:28] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  search   nvidia
[04:28] <zgmf-x20a> yup, have that open
[04:29] <kkathman> ok
[04:29] <kkathman> how many things do you see?
[04:30] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: 16 items
[04:30] <kkathman> ok kewl... now... in that list do you see an item that starts "nvidia-kernel..."
[04:31] <kkathman> actually should be 3 items
[04:31] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: i only see 2, they are source and common
[04:31] <kkathman> hmm
[04:32] <kkathman> Im so much at a loss
[04:32] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: of which common is installed
[04:32] <kkathman> I cant figure out why you arent seeing the kernel module and thats what you need
[04:32] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[04:32] <zgmf-x20a> dang
[04:33] <kkathman> sigh
[04:33] <kkathman> its crazy - you have the same repos as me
[04:33] <zgmf-x20a> there is also, "nvidia-legacy-kernal-source" and "nvidia-new-kernal-source"
[04:34] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: those are the only others with the word kernal
[04:35] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  you installed nvidia-glx right?
[04:35] <hitmanWilly> i think he installed the -new ones
[04:36] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: i did that beofre, when following the tutorial, but it will get to a point, that install another package, but it will make me remove that package.... its messed up, but would you like me to do it again?
[04:36] <kkathman> hitmanWilly:  man I cant figure out why he doesnt have the kernel specific module
[04:37] <hitmanWilly> got me...
[04:37] <zgmf-x20a> lol.....  oi vey....
[04:37] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  you didnt try to install nvidia-settings or nvidia-xconfig did you?
[04:38] <john23> xp_killer: beryl just messed up on me, it gave me a white screen
[04:38] <bobleny> Hitmanwilly: Sorry it so long again... It wouldn't copy over, then it wouldn't let me post it... :'(    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36973/plain/
[04:39] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: yup, i tried that before.  first time around, it said i would break packages.  so it didnt.  second time around, following the walk thru i did and i think doing that would make the glx uninstall if i remeber correctly
[04:39] <hitmanWilly> bobleny, well, I see a winmodem, but no ethernet card...
[04:39] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  yep it does
[04:39] <hitmanWilly> bobleny, ok, try lshw and pastebin that...sorry
[04:39] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  one more thing you might try
[04:39] <zgmf-x20a> yah it exaclty, but it says if you are using kubuntu to do that
[04:39] <zgmf-x20a> argh
[04:40] <xp_killer> john23: lol did u try it 2 times?
[04:40] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: ok, whats that?
[04:40] <john23> xp_killer: yes
[04:40] <xp_killer> john23: is your graph card good enought?
[04:40] <hitmanWilly> bobleny, this is an ethernet card, not a regular modem, right?
[04:41] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  do your sudo dpkg -l | grep bvidia, write down those items and then do a sudo apt-get --purge remove  on each one of them, then do that install of the new nvidia-glx thing
[04:41] <kkathman> nvidia not bvidia
[04:42] <bobleny> Right, it has both...
[04:42] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  in other words, get rid of anything in your system thats nvidia and reinstall the new nvidia thing
[04:42] <sqlcoder> what would you consider the "best" ERP software for linux , OSS or comercial??
[04:42] <bobleny> It is plugged into my router right now...
[04:42] <hitmanWilly> bobleny, ok, is it a pcmcia card?
[04:42] <hitmanWilly> bobleny, or built into the laptop
[04:43] <bobleny> Built in...
[04:43] <hitmanWilly> bobleny, ok, do the lshw cmd then
[04:43] <zgmf-x20a> so let me get this straight, i purge all these files, and then install the driver from the package i downloaded before direct from their website, or, from the repos
[04:43] <zgmf-x20a> ?
[04:43] <john23> xp_killer: NVIDIA GeForce Go 7600 Graphics chipset, PCI Express x16
[04:44] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: so let me get this straight, i purge all these files, and then install the driver from the package i downloaded before direct from their website, or, from the repos?
[04:45] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  well the driver you downloaded from the nvidia website isnt really a driver, its a script that tries to install/build a kernel interface
[04:45] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: oh.  so do i use that or install from repos?
[04:45] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  the nvidia things that you need have to be intimately tied to the kernel
[04:46] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  so you can compile it yourself using the nvidia thing but that does you no good if the kernel doesnt recognize
[04:46] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  so  theoretically you dont even need that file from the nvidia site
[04:46] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: right.  sooo i purge all these things, and use the repos then?
[04:47] <zgmf-x20a> and dont bother with the file i downloaded
[04:47] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  so, purge/remove all nvidia things, then do that nvidia-glx thing that hitmanWilly suggested
[04:47] <john23> xp_killer: can you send me that screen shot again?
[04:48] <bobleny> Hitmanwilly: Had fewer problems this time :')    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36974/plain/
[04:48] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  i.e. sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[04:49] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: um issue.  i tried to purge and got this error:
[04:49] <zgmf-x20a> Package rc is not installed, so not removed
[04:49] <zgmf-x20a> Package nvidia-glx is not installed, so not removed
[04:49] <xp_killer> john23: http://img458.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot3cl9.png
[04:49] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: not sure if im doing it right...
[04:50] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: sudo apt-get --purge remove rc  nvidia-glx                                 1.0.9631+2.6.20.5-16.29                NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver
[04:50] <zgmf-x20a> kk is that correct?
[04:50] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  whats the rc ?
[04:50] <hitmanWilly> bobleny, ok, for some reason your ethernet card isn't registering at all...at least not that I can see.  I would suggest going to google and searching to see if there are any known issues with this model of laptop
[04:51] <droach> i plugged my cell phone into my pc (via usb) how do i know what device it is
[04:51] <bobleny> Guh..
[04:51] <vers> how do i get .ogg files to play on my box
[04:51] <bobleny> No!
[04:51] <bobleny> Ok..... Thanks for the help!
[04:51] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: not sure.. it says it at the beggning of the file after i used the ls command.  the first 2 say rc, the second 2 say ii and the last says ic
[04:52] <kkathman> ohhh
[04:52] <kkathman> lol
[04:52] <vers> i DLed a discography and all of the files r .ogg and ive never seen this before
[04:52] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  just use the package name like nvidia-glx
[04:52] <droach> i plugged my cell phone into my pc (via usb) how do i know what device it is
[04:52] <kkathman> and you can put them all on one line
[04:52] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: oh ok, ill try that
[04:53] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: really? not sure how though so ill go one by obe
[04:53] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  like this:  sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common  etc etc
[04:54] <vers> what is .ogg files
[04:54] <vers> can anyone help
[04:54] <Rasbrev> X11!
[04:54] <kkathman> vers: ogg is an audio format
[04:54] <hitmanWilly> vers, its another way to store audio, like .mp3
[04:55] <Rasbrev> !x11
[04:55] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:55] <vers> how do i play them thi
[04:55] <vers> tho*
[04:55] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: ok cool, its doing its thin
[04:55] <kkathman> good
[04:55] <hitmanWilly> vers, should be built in to any linux audio player
[04:55] <zgmf-x20a> kk ok they are all removed
[04:55] <kkathman> hitmanWilly:  so is it nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new ??
[04:55] <vers> it brings up kate when i try to play them
[04:55] <hitmanWilly> kkathman, for the 8000's, -new
[04:56] <kkathman> ok
[04:56] <kkathman> thanks
[04:56] <hitmanWilly> vers, right click, open with
[04:56] <john> xp_killer: again it gave me the white screen....what do you think of this?
[04:56] <vers> k
[04:56] <vers> thanks
[04:57] <vers> hitmanwilly: it say that the file type is not supported trought Amarok
[04:58] <vers> is there any others i can use
[04:58] <hitmanWilly> vers, vlc, xmms, juk, kaffeine, xine...
[04:59] <vers> thanks
[04:59] <john> did anyone have a problem with beryl, i keep on getting a white screen
[05:01] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: hey sry was afk for a second had to move my car
[05:02] <zgmf-x20a> so, from adept, install the nvidia glx new?
[05:03] <Cannoli> why does kubuntu only let u use one version of adept or program like it at  a time?
[05:04] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman:  you still around?
[05:04] <kkathman> sure
[05:06] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: o ok, so JUST the glx new, there are currently no others installed
[05:07] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a: hold a sec lemme check something
[05:07] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: ok sounds good
[05:08] <saizai> I've got an issue... my KDE won't start, and the best lead I have is this error: No database available when running kbuildsycoca. Any help please? (I'm running from tty, so light on links please since it'll have to open in lynx...)
[05:08] <Cannoli> !mount
[05:08] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[05:09] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  ok go for it
[05:09] <Cannoli> how do i mount other drives?
[05:09] <Cannoli> !diskmounter
[05:09] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[05:09] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: ok here goes
[05:10] <Cannoli> !fstab
[05:10] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[05:10] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  lemme know how it goes
[05:11] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: currently.... a big download... lol
[05:11] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  you did the nvidia-glx-new right?
[05:11] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: yup
[05:12] <kkathman> ok kewl
[05:12] <neptunepink> is there a way to pass arguments to the kernel from grub to specify a custom init/upstart/script?
[05:12] <Cannoli> zgmf-x20a: do u know the ! command for mounting drives
[05:12] <Cannoli> >?
[05:12] <Cannoli> ?
[05:12] <Cannoli> !drives
[05:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drives - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:13] <neptunepink> !mount
[05:13] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[05:13] <squallleon> greetings, somebody who could help me with a soundcard matter in kubuntu 7.0.4
[05:13] <Cannoli> srry ntfs mounting
[05:13] <Cannoli> !ntfs
[05:13] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:13] <Cannoli> !ntfs-3g
[05:13] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:14] <john> need help with beryl?
[05:15] <squallleon> somebody who could help me?
[05:15] <zgmf-x20a> Cannoli: actually no, but it is VERY simple to do using gparted, which you can download and install from the repos
[05:16] <saizai> also, mv .kde .kdebackup did not fix the problem
[05:16] <saizai> I just get booted into a konsole and default desktop background and nothing else
[05:16] <saizai> no kdesktop, no kicker, nothin
[05:16] <squallleon> anyone can help me with a soundcard matter?
[05:17] <Cannoli> zgmf-x20a: thanx
[05:18] <zgmf-x20a> Cannoli: no worries.  ive only been thru the mounting proceedure once before when i used to have multiple drives, but anyways, long story short, gparted is the gui way of mounting
[05:18] <john> can anyone help with beryl?
[05:18] <kkathman> john:  what problems are you having?
[05:18] <Cannoli> yea but i just need to mount 2 ntfs drives
[05:19] <Cannoli> so imma use ntfs-config
[05:19] <Cannoli> it easily reads/writes
[05:19] <Cannoli> :D
[05:19] <squallleon> anyone can help with a soundcard?
[05:20] <john> kkathman: i dl beryl package, when i click on the breyl manager, nuthin happens
[05:21] <kkathman> john:  please explain what you did ??  did you follow a guide?
[05:23] <kkathman> !beryl | john
[05:23] <ubotu> john: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:24] <john> kkathman: how can i send you a screen shot?
[05:26] <squallleon> will nobody help me? =(
[05:26] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: ok, its all up and running, what should i do now?
[05:26] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: well installed is what i mean
[05:27] <xp_killer> john:/me tanks
[05:27] <xp_killer> lol
[05:27] <Cannoli> XD
[05:27] <xp_killer> john: hey
[05:27] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  ok kewl  sudo nvidia-xconfig
[05:27] <john> xp_killer: yes
[05:27] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman:
[05:27] <zgmf-x20a> Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf".
[05:27] <zgmf-x20a> Backed up file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' as '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'
[05:27] <zgmf-x20a> New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[05:27] <xp_killer> does the white screen stays on long?
[05:28] <prak> does anyone here know of any good laptop review sites?
[05:28] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  excellent - now try a ctrl-alt-backspace and hope for the nvidia spashscreen
[05:34] <squallleon> anyone can help me with a soundcard matter? or at least tell me about a channel where i can find help...
[05:34] <enjoi1216> hey i have a crazy question does anybody know how to get myspace to workwith Kubuntu
[05:35] <savetheWorld> should just work (ugh)
[05:35] <kkathman> enjoi1216:  myspace.com ??
[05:36] <jhutchins> enjoi1216: Um, myspace is a web service.  Browser dependent.  If konq doesn't work, try firefox or opera.
[05:36] <kkathman> lol
[05:36] <kkathman> yeah
[05:36] <jhutchins> enjoi1216: Nothing kubuntu specific about it.
[05:36] <kkathman> konq works, ff works and opera works
[05:36] <logixoul> I have a package installed from a repo. I wanna substitute it with another version of the package, which I have compiled. Lots of stuff depends on this package. What's the recommended procedure?
[05:37] <kkathman> logixoul:  if you've compiled successfully, just run the new program
[05:37] <logixoul> kkathman: it's a library.
[05:38] <kkathman> logixoul:  but you've compiled?
[05:38] <john> xp_killer: i can run beryl manager, but for some reason i can get the cube to work
[05:38] <logixoul> kkathman: yep
[05:38] <kkathman> logixoul:  then that means everything is ok
[05:38] <enjoi1216> there needs to be some hot looking chicks in this room
[05:38] <prak> does anyone here know of any good laptop review sites?
[05:38] <kkathman> logixoul:  if there were compatibility probs you wouldnt have been able to compile
[05:39] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: nope...  but i have a new message for you!  lol.  let me type it out.
[05:39] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  ok
[05:39] <enjoi1216> are there any females in this room
[05:39] <logixoul> kkathman: well, no. I have compiled it, but I haven't installed it, because I don't wanna mess up the already installed version (which is tracked by the package database)
[05:39] <kkathman> enjoi1216:  this isnt a cyber room, its a support channel
[05:39] <enjoi1216> well yeah i know that
[05:40] <enjoi1216> just because you are looking for a chick doesn't mean you are trying to cyber
[05:40] <kkathman> enjoi1216:  this isnt the place to ask those kinds of questions
[05:40] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  whats the new message?
[05:40] <enjoi1216> kkathman needs to sit in the freezer and take a chill
[05:41] <logixoul> kkathman: well, since I only need the compiled version for development, I guess I'll install it in some separate prefix. thanks anyway ;)
[05:41] <kkathman> enjoi1216:  er James, what are you 13?  please follow the channel guidelines that can be found in the channel topic, thanks
[05:41] <kkathman> logixoul:  I thin you should be fine
[05:42] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libglx.so.  (next line = NL)  NL failed to load module"glx" (loader failed,7)  NL  Failed to intialize the GLX module.  please check in your x log file that the GLX module has been loaded in your x server, and that the module is the nvidia GLX module.  if you continue to encounter problems please try to reinstall the nvidia driver.  NL  Fatal: Error running
[05:42] <zgmf-x20a> install command for nvidia.  NL  failed to load nvidia kernal module.
[05:42] <john> kkathman: i can run beryl manager, but for some reason i can get the cube to work
[05:42] <enjoi1216> ok i didn't know chill out
[05:42] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: ps, i reconfig  xorg again to get my screen back
[05:43] <squallleon> SOMEBODY! HELP!!! I have a Soundblaster Live! 5.1, and it doesn't work in kubuntu!!!
[05:43] <enjoi1216> well how exactly do i go about downloading firefox for kubuntu
[05:44] <zgmf-x20a> enjoi1216: the repos, just type it in to adept
[05:44] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a: darn I think maybe we just needed to reboot X
[05:44] <kkathman> enjoi1216:  if you successfully installed kubuntu, firefox is already there
[05:45] <enjoi1216> buyt couldn't i go there through konquerer and download it direct
[05:45] <Doctor_Nick> squallleon: good thing you used all those exclamation points, otherwise we wouldn't have seen your plea for help
[05:45] <kkathman> enjoi1216:  kubuntu comes with firefox you need not install it
[05:45] <enjoi1216> i don't see it on my start programs list
[05:45] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: really!?  aww.  so wait does that mean i have to get rid of those files again,and redownload again?
[05:45] <squallleon> Doctor_Nick: thank you!! can you help me?
[05:46] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  I think maybe we need to try to do the nvidia-xconfig again, then log out and reboot ... that way the x server will be shut down and restarted with the new xorg
[05:46] <jhutchins> squallleon: we would need to know what is happening. "Doesn't work' just doesn't mean anything.
[05:46] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  if that doesnt work then Im out of ideas my friend :)
[05:46] <zgmf-x20a> ok so lets get it open again, one sec
[05:46] <zgmf-x20a> uh oh...
[05:46] <zgmf-x20a> lol
[05:47] <xp_killer> john: ctrl+alt+mouse
[05:47] <enjoi1216> kkathman it's not in my programs list i am going to have to download it
[05:47] <kkathman> enjoi1216:  are you in kde right now?
[05:47] <john> nuthin happens
[05:47] <enjoi1216> how to i go about doing it i'm not sure
[05:47] <enjoi1216> ??
[05:47] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: ok, so i did sudo nvidia-xconfig, now what should i do?
[05:47] <squallleon> jhutchins: Ok! It is recognized by kubuntu, as a SB Live! 5.1, but it doesn't works... I have the same problem in another distribution(Mandriva), it says my card uses the emu-snd101k driver, but it just doesn't work...
[05:48] <john> xp_killer: nuthin happens
[05:48] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  try just logging off, and reboot the computer
[05:48] <enjoi1216> tell me how i do it step by step hands on kkathman
[05:48] <zgmf-x20a> so log off, then ctrl alt del to restart im guessing?  not full restart
[05:48] <kkathman> enjoi1216:  press alt-f2   then in the box type   firefox    and hit return
[05:49] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: so log off, then ctrl alt del to restart im guessing?  not full restart
[05:49] <enjoi1216> kkathman it's not in my programs list
[05:49] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  yea thats fine
[05:49] <xp_killer> john: ctrl+alt+left buttin mouse
[05:49] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: ok, brb
[05:49] <enjoi1216> i promise man i'm not kidding you at all about this
[05:49] <kkathman> enjoi1216:  what happens when you hit alt-f2
[05:50] <enjoi1216> it wants me to run a command
[05:50] <kkathman> enjoi1216:  ok  type    firefox
[05:50] <kkathman> then hit return
[05:50] <enjoi1216> and it tells me could not run the specified command
[05:51] <kkathman> enjoi1216:  hmm ok well you must not have completely finished your installation
[05:51] <prak> does anyone here know of any good laptop review sites?
[05:51] <xp_killer> john: right clic the crystal in the bar choos select window *** beryl
[05:51] <enjoi1216> i did completely finish my installation
[05:51] <kkathman> prak:  try google
[05:51] <enjoi1216> because i did a fresh install last night
[05:51] <enjoi1216> i'm not that stupid
[05:52] <kkathman> enjoi1216:  well, really something odd then because every kubuntu install comes with firefox :)
[05:52] <xp_killer> my pc just slow down tramendisly why is that?
[05:52] <prak> kkathman: i already tried, but they haven't returned any sites that are accurate for the particular laptop that i'm trying to review
[05:52] <hitmanWilly> kkathman, uhhh....
[05:52] <kkathman> prak what laptop?
[05:52] <kkathman> hitmanWilly:  ??
[05:52] <enjoi1216> then how do i go about downloading it
[05:52] <hitmanWilly> kkathman, the ff comment...
[05:53] <kkathman> enjoi1216:  well I suppose you could install from the repositories then
[05:53] <jhutchins> squallleon: I'm out of time, but if you tell us what does happen, that will make it possible for us to help.  "Doesn't help" == "Can't get to moon".
[05:53] <kkathman> hitmanWilly:  what firefox comment?
[05:53] <prak> Satellite A200-AH6, kkathman
[05:53] <prak> by toshiba
[05:53] <hitmanWilly> sorry, my sarcasm detector is a little off tonight
[05:54] <enjoi1216> kkathman i went to the website directly
[05:54] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: .................. no dice........ :(
[05:55] <squallleon> I already told it... It is recognized well by kubuntu, as a SB Live! 5.1, it says it is using the emu-snd101k driver, but no sound can be heard...
[05:55] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: i think im out of luck on this one arent i?
[05:55] <john> xp_killer: window management icon?
[05:55] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  wow Im stumped
[05:56] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: yah... it was the same error msg btw
[05:56] <kkathman> sigh
[05:56] <xp_killer> john: choose beryl
[05:56] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  maybe someone else will be able to solve the problem - we've been all around it
[05:57] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: trust me im sighing more... this resolution is the pitsssss
[05:57] <kkathman> hitmanWilly:  did I say something wrong about firefox??
[05:57] <john> xp_killer: i got the white screen again
[05:57] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: i dunno man, it seems that we have been tackling it from every angle
[05:57] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  Im sorry man...really bites that the 8000 wont work with the generic
[05:58] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: im thinking the last resort is now i have those glx installed, i could try that downloaded package and see if it works this time around?
[05:58] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: but i also think that wont work
[05:58] <xp_killer> john: lol can u show me your white screen?
[05:58] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  at this point its worth a shot - you might also hit the forums and see if you find something there
[05:58] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: yahh...  you maybe have any idea when they will have some good support??
[05:59] <j1solutions> hello
[05:59] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  like I said - hit the forums - maybe someone else has solved it
[05:59] <john> the whole screen goes white
[05:59] <john> xp_killer: the whole screen goes white
[05:59] <enjoi1216> kkathman i went and downloaded the program and it downloaded now i don't know how to get it to run on my system
[05:59] <enjoi1216> i don't know if i need to redownload firefox again
[05:59] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: yah ill give that a surf.  actually i do have another major hardware issue though that you might be able to help out with, but if youve had enought thats cool too
[06:00] <kkathman> enjoi1216:  well, I think maybe you should try to install via the repositories first
[06:00] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  I'll try :)
[06:00] <enjoi1216> ok well how do i go about doing that
[06:00] <xp_killer> john: so if everything goes white how u getting tru to see what u rite?
[06:00] <kkathman> enjoi1216:  go to your adept package manager (its on your kmenu under system
[06:01] <kkathman> enjoi1216:  or you can go to the add/remove packages
[06:01] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: lol awesome.  well, its actually the cd rom drive.  no support whatsoever.  i put any media in and it does not register.  but keep in mind, it is a laptop and i installed this distro via the cd rom driove.  any idea how i can get it up and running?
[06:01] <xp_killer> john: when i activat beryl some parts of the screen goes white then come back good and there i can play with the cube
[06:02] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  hmm let me think about that a sec
[06:02] <kkathman> enjoi1216:  best to go to the add/remove packages
[06:02] <john> xp_killer: everything goes white....then i boot wyself out of x-windows.....then i log back in
[06:02] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: cool.  yah its a weird issue.  i remebr checking to see if it was in my hardware and i think it wasent
[06:03] <kkathman> enjoi1216:  then click on the internet on the left side - scroll on the right and select Firefox
[06:03] <enjoi1216> i have add remove prgrams not packages
[06:03] <xp_killer> kkathman: for the past 5days everytime i download something the pc slows down.do u know why is that?
[06:03] <john> xp_killer: *myself
[06:03] <enjoi1216> programs
[06:03] <kkathman> enjoi1216:  that'll work :)
[06:03] <enjoi1216> ok now what i'm there
[06:04] <kkathman> enjoi1216:  look up and I spelled it out for you :)
[06:04] <zgmf-x20a> actually also, while kkathman gives that a think, anyone here using skype at all???
[06:04] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  can you go to konq file manager and look under /media   and see if you have cdrom ??
[06:05] <xp_killer> john: did u give it a chance to see if it come back normal?because mine does bug out to when i lunch it then it comes back normal.it does bug untill 6second
[06:05] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: it says cdrom0 yes.  but i can put media in, double click that icon, and i get nothing
[06:05] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: ill try it again right now
[06:05] <john> xp_killer: ill see, but it is out from then 6sec
[06:06] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: yup, nothing, no response
[06:06] <xp_killer> stdin:  for the past 5days everytime i download something the pc slows down.do u know why is that?
[06:06] <Cannoli> how do i naviate in konsole?
[06:06] <Cannoli> like whts the cd.. or dir?
[06:06] <Cannoli> navigate*
[06:06] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  take a gander at this post and see if it gives you any ideas on the nvidia thing   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=524913&highlight=nvidia+8000
[06:06] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  oooo thats bad if the system doesnt recognize it at all
[06:06] <j1solutions> anyone running hairy beaver on an IBM thinkpad?
[06:06] <kkathman> oh wait
[06:07] <kkathman> you said that it had cdrom thats good
[06:07] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  when you click on the cdrom0  does anything happen - like does it bring up a blank directory?
[06:08] <Cannoli> ?
[06:08] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: yes it does.  also, get this.  when going the other route, pulling up the storage media way, in the left hand column i click vidoe dvd browser, which is the drive, it gives this error "could not start process.  unable to create io-slave"
[06:09] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: yes it brings up a blank directory
[06:09] <Cannoli> !konsole
[06:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konsole - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:09] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  ok
[06:09] <Cannoli> !terminal
[06:09] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[06:09] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  actually I've never really used my cd on my system so Im not going to be much help :)
[06:10] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  lets try this -   alt-f2  type  kinfocenter and click on the CD ROM Information on the left
[06:10] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: lol.... crap.  haha.  ok.  well the thing to keep in mind is the device works absoultely fine, tried it over on my 27gb vista partian and works totally fine.
[06:11] <enjoi1216> you know kkathman i don't know why microsoft couldn't make their new windows that they are coming out with like linux
[06:11] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: it says no information available about cd-ron info
[06:11] <kkathman> enjoi1216:  well I think they tried with vista but failed :)
[06:11] <john> xp_killer: what hardware do need need to run beryl?
[06:12] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  hmm theres something not quite right there :) one sec
[06:12] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: also, fyi, vista is just for games... if only i could get wc3 to work with wine... no need for vista
[06:12] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: ok, let me know if you know
[06:12] <enjoi1216> well i don't see why microsoft doesn't merge with Linus Torvalds or merge with apple
[06:13] <convulsia> zgmf-x20a : you might try cedega
[06:13] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  kcontrol - peropherals - storage media and lets see if you get any CD related things
[06:14] <enjoi1216> does anyone in here own an apple computer
[06:15] <Cannoli> how would i use this command "./ipodpatcher --scan"
[06:15] <Cannoli> ?
[06:15] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: yup the usual is there.  amarok, digicam, k3b options
[06:16] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  ok  lets make sure its mounted - kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[06:16] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  see if you have a line in there that looks like:   /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[06:18] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: i have:  /dev/hda        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[06:18] <john> xp_killer: my screen goes completely white, but when i CTRL + ALT + LEFT MOUSE i can see the cube turning, but it it only white and blue screen and very poor video graphics...i can only see the cube backside lines
[06:18] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  nope thats your hard disk
[06:18] <kkathman> oh waiat
[06:18] <kkathman> weird
[06:18] <xp_killer> for the past 5days everytime i download something the pc slows down.do u know why is that?
[06:19] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: lol
[06:19] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  paste your fstab in a pastebin please
[06:19] <Cannoli> xp_killer: how would i use this command "./ipodpatcher --scan"?
[06:19] <kkathman> that looks strange to have a cdrom as the first thing
[06:19] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: just going to say that, ok one sec
[06:19] <kkathman> mine is hdc
[06:19] <kkathman> i mean I guess it could be ok
[06:20] <xp_killer> Cannoli: i dont know
[06:20] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36977/
[06:20] <Cannoli> kk
[06:20] <Cannoli> thanx anywayz
[06:21] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  ok thats fine
[06:21] <kkathman> you have sata drives
[06:22] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  so you put a cd in your drive and basically nothing happens?
[06:22] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: yes exactly, so that wasent the issue, i was thinking maybe sata support?  not sure
[06:23] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: yes thats exactl what happens
[06:23] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: and once in, i cannot access the information of any type of media
[06:23] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  its a cd/dvd or just a cd ?
[06:23] <zgmf-x20a> cd dvd burner
[06:24] <xp_killer> john: i tink your nvidea might be config bad
[06:24] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a: what happens if you put a cd in there and then you try to access it via, say k3b ??
[06:24] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: not sure let me try
[06:25] <xp_killer> john: try befor running beryl deactivit every graph option in defaul for kubuntu even animations
[06:25] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  you dont really even need to put a cd in, just launch k3b
[06:26] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: yah you are right, it says no cd/dvd burner found anyways
[06:27] <Cannoli> !chmod
[06:27] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[06:27] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  yeah ok...not sure what gives there then
[06:27] <Cannoli> how do i chmod something?
[06:28] <Cannoli> Linux users may have to chmod +x (man chmod) ipodpatcher first
[06:28] <kkathman> Cannoli: man chmod    in a konsole
[06:28] <Cannoli> thts it?
[06:28] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: awww.... crappy
[06:28] <zgmf-x20a> lol
[06:28] <kkathman> Cannoli:  yes typically its    sudo chmod +x  filename
[06:28] <zgmf-x20a> hey kkathman what is envy?
[06:28] <kkathman> !envy
[06:28] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[06:28] <Cannoli> ah ic
[06:29] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  I used it actually to install my drivers
[06:29] <kkathman> lol
[06:29] <Cannoli> awesome
[06:29] <Cannoli> ty :)
[06:29] <hilarion> I am very glad
[06:29] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: yah thats what im reading now.  it may work.  bc im not sure if that other  procedure will.
[06:30] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  you reading that forum link?
[06:30] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: yup, its actually very helpful.  that looks like a good way to get at it,  but envy also may work
[06:31] <john> xp_killer: nop, it did the same thing
[06:32] <john> xp_killer: g2g....but thank you for helping me
[06:32] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: uestion though, i am on kubuntu, still supported or no?
[06:32] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  well you have to install it, and when you do, it should install any necessary dependencies I reckon
[06:33] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: ok looking it up now
[06:33] <kkathman> when I installed, I went ubuntu first, then I installed kubuntu-desktop so I have everything pretty much
[06:33] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: ooooh ic.  annnd wth?  its not in the repos?
[06:33] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  should be sudo apt-get install envy
[06:35] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  I know this is repetitive, but I wonder if you could paste your sources.list again (its in /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:35] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: no way... E: Couldn't find package envy... this video card just does not want me to install its drivers.... lol
[06:36] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: naw thats cool, one second
[06:38] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36979/
[06:38] <Daisuke_Laptop> goooood morning, Kubuntu!
[06:39] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  ok now  at konsole:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:39] <kkathman> hi Daisuke_Laptop :)
[06:40] <Daisuke_Laptop> upgrading to gutsy?
[06:40] <kkathman> no he's having problems with getting an nvidia 8000 card installed
[06:40] <Daisuke_Laptop> nvidia-glx-new?
[06:40] <kkathman> and his sources look just like mine but he doesnt have some packages
[06:40] <kkathman> yeah we tried all that :(
[06:40] <Daisuke_Laptop> ooh
[06:41] <kkathman> for instance... no envy
[06:41] <Daisuke_Laptop> best of luck then :)
[06:41] <Daisuke_Laptop> envy isn't recommended, but sometimes it's all that works.
[06:41] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[06:41] <kkathman> and no nvidia-kernel things
[06:41] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  well ok
[06:41] <zgmf-x20a> Daisuke_Laptop: yahhh.... its been a pain in the butt
[06:41] <Daisuke_Laptop> lemme see something real quick...
[06:42] <Daisuke_Laptop> might want to uncomment the feisty-backports
[06:42] <zgmf-x20a> in my sources?
[06:42] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  you can get it from alberto milones page  http://lunapark6.com/?p=2717
[06:43] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: ok,  ill try that.  but after reading about it, it says that every upgrade you have to redo the whole process?
[06:44] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  better page here:  http://tuxicity.wordpress.com/2006/12/22/install-the-latest-nvidia-driver-with-envy-in-kubuntu/
[06:44] <zgmf-x20a> well now that i thin about it... i think i might have to anyways bc modules wont match
[06:44] <Daisuke_Laptop> yep
[06:44] <Daisuke_Laptop> originally, i did the nvidia drivers witht he versions from the site
[06:44] <kkathman> ahh ok - i didnt but maybe that will work
[06:45] <kkathman> yeah me too
[06:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> but that was when i was beta testing feisty
[06:45] <kkathman> he has that 8000
[06:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> and i got tired of x not starting every few days
[06:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> every time there was a kernel update
[06:45] <zgmf-x20a> yah thast what i was just thinkign.... hmmm
[06:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> and having to re-run the installer to recompile the kernel module
[06:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> zgmf-x20a: the kernel for feisty is pretty much set in stone by this point.
[06:46] <Daisuke_Laptop> so you should be alright on that part of it
[06:46] <Daisuke_Laptop> if you go to gutsy once it hits general release, you might have to do that a couple times
[06:48] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: and Daisuke_Laptop sounds good,  i think i will give envy a shot.  now how do i get it exactly.  the last walkthru yu gave me kkathman looks great
[06:48] <zgmf-x20a> just need to get it though
[06:48] <kkathman> im not sure what you decided?
[06:49] <kkathman> you gonna open the backports?
[06:49] <zgmf-x20a> lol, to get envy and try it out to make this thing work
[06:49] <kkathman> oj
[06:49] <kkathman> look at that last post
[06:49] <kkathman> http://tuxicity.wordpress.com/2006/12/22/install-the-latest-nvidia-driver-with-envy-in-kubuntu/
[06:49] <kkathman> this one
[06:50] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: yes thats the one i am on, but how do i install it?
[06:52] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: wait, 7.06 is feisty?
[06:52] <kkathman> yes
[06:52] <kkathman> http://lunapark6.com/?p=2717
[06:52] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: crap.... not supported :(
[06:52] <kkathman> 7.04 I thought
[06:52] <kkathman> I used it
[06:53] <zgmf-x20a> i mean 7.04, it says here:  its not supportedhttp://tuxicity.wordpress.com/2007/03/09/envy-a-great-installer-for-the-latest-ati-and-nvidia-graphic-drivers-in-ubuntu/
[06:53] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: o really, ok i guess its ok then
[06:54] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman:
[06:54] <zgmf-x20a> Connecting to albertomilone.com|68.178.232.90|:80... connected.
[06:54] <zgmf-x20a> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 403 Forbidden
[06:54] <zgmf-x20a> 00:54:41 ERROR 403: Forbidden
[06:55] <kkathman> argh
[06:56] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: sorry...
[06:57] <kkathman> I guess he killed his access
[06:58] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: awwwwwww mannn....  seriosuly.... this laptop just does not want to be happy and working...
[06:58] <kkathman> aha!!!
[06:58] <kkathman> I found it
[06:58] <kkathman> http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[06:59] <kkathman> bottom of the page is the deb file
[06:59] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  download that and install with dpkg -i
[07:00] <Cannoli> !kate
[07:00] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[07:00] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: yo mean this one:  envy_0.9.7-0ubuntu8_all.deb
[07:01] <kkathman> yep
[07:02] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  then follow the instructions on that other page I mentioned
[07:02] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: actually when you select it it doesnt download, it opens in kate.  should i save as, or open with ark????
[07:03] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  right click and save as I guess
[07:04] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: actuallt, yu can right click and install package right then and there, BUT it comes up with an error
[07:04] <zgmf-x20a> again, cannot connect to host, etc
[07:04] <kkathman> what?
[07:05] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: you can right click, go to package menu, then install package.  but it doesnt work.  would have been cool if it did though
[07:05] <kkathman> just right click and save as
[07:05] <kkathman> no no
[07:05] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: ok saved it to my desktop
[07:05] <zgmf-x20a> home folder actuallt
[07:06] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  fyi - at some time - create a directory in your ~ called downloads :)
[07:06] <kkathman> save all of them there in case you need them ever again
[07:06] <zgmf-x20a> yah im going to do that now
[07:07] <zgmf-x20a> actually not as easy as i thought apparentyl
[07:07] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a: in a konsole cd to that directory where the file is and do  a sudo dpkg -i  full-file-name
[07:08] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  at konsole,  cd <return>  will always take you to your home directory
[07:08] <kkathman> then sudo mkdir downloads
[07:09] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  then mv ~/envy_0.9.7-0ubuntu8_all.deb  ~/downloads
[07:10] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: ok ill make that file another time...  ok, so hw do i cd to a new directory i created in my home folder?
[07:11] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  to change directory -  is cd :)
[07:11] <kkathman> easy to remember
[07:11] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: yes i get that part, but how do i get into the folder?
[07:11] <kkathman> thats how
[07:12] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  where did you save the deb file?
[07:12] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: i dont understand.  im at zgmf-x20a@zgmf-x20a:~$  and the folder in my home folder i just called dlz, so how do i cd to that folder?
[07:13] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  so you have a directory called dlz  in your home folder?
[07:13] <zgmf-x20a> yes, which the file is currently in
[07:13] <kkathman> ok
[07:13] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  type cd ~/dlz
[07:14] <zgmf-x20a> .... its also case sensetive apparently.  ok, so im in the folder now though
[07:15] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  if you want to know what folder you are in.... type pwd
[07:15] <kkathman> pwd - print working directory
[07:15] <ubuntu_> !commands | zgmf-x20a
[07:15] <ubotu> zgmf-x20a: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[07:15] <zgmf-x20a> ah ic , cool.
[07:16] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  ls -l  and see if you see your deb file
[07:16] <zgmf-x20a> ok so now dpkg -i envy_0.9.7-0ubuntu8_all.deb
[07:16] <zgmf-x20a> ok one second
[07:16] <kkathman> sudo
[07:17] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: yes it is there, and i will run the command now
[07:17] <kkathman> okie doke
[07:18] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: ... dependancy problems... uite a few...
[07:18] <kkathman> hmm
[07:18] <kkathman> well poo
[07:18] <kkathman> lol
[07:19] <zgmf-x20a> lol.... trust me i know
[07:19] <zgmf-x20a> haha
[07:19] <kkathman> zgmf-x20a:  I think yer snakebit man :)
[07:19] <zgmf-x20a> lol.... yah im thinking so as well.... man o man... this has been the most frustrating process i have ever had to go thru thus far
[07:20] <zgmf-x20a> im dreeding the cd rom drive issue.....
[07:20] <mortici_> is there an easy way to upgrade from edgy to feisty
[07:21] <zgmf-x20a> im also pooped from the evening, i think i have to hit the sack.  got an ealry morning tomorrow as well with doctors and needles....
[07:21] <zgmf-x20a> not looking forward to that
[07:21] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: thanks a millllllllllion for all this help though.  going to keep the pc on and try it out again tomorrow ith all the pointers and such
[07:22] <kkathman> ok kewl man
[07:23] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: cool, see you again around here probably.  have a good night and ttys.
[07:23] <kkathman> mortici:  its pretty easy, you change your sources, and do a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:23] <zgmf-x20a> thanks again!  ^_^
[07:23] <kkathman> np
[07:35] <mortici_> kkathman: change sources to what?
[07:37] <kkathman> mortici: well your current sources.list will have edgy in them, and typically you just need to change those to feisty
[07:37] <kkathman> !upgrade
[07:37] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[07:37] <kkathman> try that mortici
[07:37] <kkathman> that link should help you
[07:41] <mortici_> ok
[07:41] <mortici_> im upgrading now
[07:42] <mortici_> 1gb of files yay!
[07:42] <mortici_> god i hope it doesn't bork my configs
[07:54] <mortici_> if i a raid setup on my pc, and i upgrade to feisty its not gonna mess it up is it?
[07:55] <DaSkreech> mortici_: It's already installed?
[07:55] <mortici_> yes
[07:55] <mortici_> the raid config/setup
[07:56] <mortici_> dmraid to be exact
[07:56] <DaSkreech> if it works now it should work then
[07:56] <mortici_> k just making sure
[07:56] <DaSkreech> cross your fingers and toes :)
[07:58] <mortici_> and legs and arms
[07:58] <mortici_> :)
[07:59] <mortici_> It should be fine, i "trust" linux lol
[07:59] <Mr_Sonoma> i usually back up my /home directory on a pen drive just in case
[07:59] <DaSkreech> Mr_Sonoma: are you serious?
[07:59] <jbbarnes> I have mounted a FAT32 partition, but cannot write to it unless I'm root. Can someone give me some ideas. Change fstab options?
[08:00] <jbbarnes> I have set the mount point to 777, but still can't write to it as a regular user.
[08:00] <Mr_Sonoma> yup, havent ever had a problem but there's always that one in a billion chance that im gonna be the lucky one to have something go wrong LOL
[08:02] <jbbarnes> Nobody has any ideas?
[08:02] <mortici_> jbbarnes: hold on a sec
[08:02] <jbbarnes> Thanks.
[08:02] <jussi01> !patience
[08:02] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:03] <mortici_> jbbarnes: set the options in fstab to rw,user OR defaults
[08:03] <mortici_> are you using: mount -t ... etc method or through fstab is what i should of asked
[08:03] <jbbarnes> Okay, let me see how they are set at the moment. Checking...
[08:04] <mortici_> make sure the Type is also vfat afaik
[08:04] <Mr_Sonoma> i dont keep a lot in my /home so a 2 gig flash drive (pen drive) works good for back up
[08:04] <jbbarnes> Last time I started up, I used the mount command. Then I added it to fstab for this restart. No luck either time.
[08:04] <mortici_> ok your fstab entry should look something like this:
[08:05] <DaSkreech> Mr_Sonoma: Wow I have a 120 GB drive and a 6 GB / and I have no space left on the drive
[08:05] <mortici_>  /dev/<foo> /media/<foo> auto defaults 0 0
[08:05] <Mr_Sonoma> DaSkreech, i have a 20 gig hard disk so
[08:05] <jbbarnes> The line isn my fstab says:
[08:05] <mortici_> the foo you replace with appropriate names
[08:05] <jbbarnes> __  /dev/sda4       /mnt/common     vfat    user    0       1
[08:05] <mortici_> what is your fstab entry
[08:06] <jbbarnes> I had to add the underscore ;-)
[08:06] <jbbarnes> I am mounting in /mnt/common and have set both /mnt and /mnt/common to 777 access
[08:06] <mortici_> replace user with defaults or add rw like so: ... vfat rw,user 0 0
[08:06] <jbbarnes> Okay, changing...
[08:06] <mortici_> that doesn't matter, cause fstab is gonna overwrite those settings
[08:06] <mortici_> with the options you set
[08:07] <mortici_> make sure its a comma between rw and user
[08:07] <mortici_> and set the dump/pass to 0 0
[08:07] <mortici_> thats zero zero
[08:07] <jbbarnes> Like this: /dev/sda4       /mnt/common     vfat    rw,user 0       1
[08:08] <mortici_> the last two change the 1 to a 0
[08:08] <mortici_> besides that it looks right
[08:08] <jbbarnes> Oka
[08:08] <jbbarnes> okay
[08:08] <mortici_> ok
[08:08] <mortici_> save the file and type: sudo mount -a
[08:09] <jbbarnes> It now says: /dev/sda4       /mnt/common     vfat    rw,user 0       0
[08:09] <mortici_> perfect
[08:09] <mortici_> now type: sudo mount -a
[08:09] <mortici_> it should remount the items
[08:09] <mortici_> if anything do: sudo umount /mnt/common && sudo mount -a
[08:10] <DaSkreech> g
[08:10] <mortici_> g
[08:10] <mortici_> 922 gets so far
[08:10] <mortici_> still going :D
[08:11] <mortici_> talk about and upgrade lolz
[08:11] <jbbarnes> okay, I executed sudo mount -a   When I go to the newly mounted common directory (as non-root) the files appear as
[08:11] <jbbarnes> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  74885706 2007-08-23 11:58 file.txt
[08:11] <jbbarnes> So it still seems to think that I have no write access.
[08:11] <jbbarnes> Thanks for your help so far. I"m appreciating it.
[08:12] <mortici_> jbbarnes: type: sudo umount /mnt/common && sudo mount -a
[08:12] <mortici_> or highlight what i wrote and middle click in your shell
[08:14] <jbbarnes> Okay, I just executed that command. Still won't let me write. The same permissions show up when I ls-l
[08:15] <mortici_> technically from what you pasted the permissions seem right, so you should have write access
[08:15] <jbbarnes> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 729128960 2006-12-01 01:41 Lady in the Water 1.avi
[08:16] <jbbarnes> Shouldn't that disallow me from writing?
[08:16] <jbbarnes> I'm not root and I don't have a w in the other columns.
[08:16] <mortici_> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  48 Mar  7  2007 windows <--------- thats the folder (d is for directory)
[08:16] <mortici_> same permissions and i have read/write access
[08:17] <jbbarnes> The one I just sent is one of the media files in the folder. They all have the same permissions.
[08:17] <mortici_> and you can read them but not write to them?
[08:17] <jbbarnes> rwx r-x r-w
[08:17] <jbbarnes> So no writing for group or others, just for the owner, which is root.
[08:18] <jbbarnes> I guess I'm wondering if ther is a mount option to make it read/write to everyone. That would solve it.
[08:18] <mortici_> the do this: sudo chown /mnt/common <username>:users
[08:20] <jbbarnes> chown: `/mnt/common': invalid user
[08:20] <mortici_> gah
[08:20] <jbbarnes> I put my user id (jbbarnes) where you had <username
[08:20] <mortici_> i think this is a udev issue lemme see
[08:20] <jbbarnes> Thanks.
[08:23] <jbbarnes> chown [OPTION] ... [OWNER] [:[GROUP] ]  FILE...
[08:24] <Jucato> chown [user_name] :[group_name]  [file_or_folder] 
[08:24] <mortici_> jbbarnes: your fstab is correct, its udev thats messed up
[08:25] <jbbarnes> That's a new one to me. I'm not familiar with udev.
[08:25] <jbbarnes> Looking it up.
[08:27] <jbbarnes> Okay, read wikipedia. So I kind of see what udev is about. But I'm not sure what to do differently.
[08:28] <jbbarnes> Sounds like you're saying the problem is at a lower level than mount or fstab. With the way the device is handled.
[08:29] <mortici_> yep
[08:29] <mortici_> wrong group/user is assigned to device when created
[08:29] <jbbarnes> Is it possible to change it?
[08:30] <mortici_> yeah
[08:30] <mortici_> you have to edit /etc/udev/rules.d/ files to set the proper group/user
[08:30] <mortici_> or just group
[08:31] <jbbarnes> Okay, looking up that file...
[08:33] <jbbarnes> I see about 30 files in that directory. Looking for something that seems right...
[08:34] <jbbarnes> maybe 25-iftab.rules?
[08:35] <mortici_> 40-permissions.rules would be most logical
[08:35] <jbbarnes> yep. Got it. Looking at it now...
[08:35] <Mr_Sonoma> !network shares
[08:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about network shares - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:36] <melomane> can someone help me with establishing a local repository source?
[08:37] <DaSkreech> !samba
[08:37] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[08:37] <DaSkreech> melomane: What are you trying to do?
[08:39] <melomane> DaSkreech: thanks, i dowlnloaded some packages before, and now i installed kubuntu on my other harddisk, i copied the packages, and i have these apckages, i want to install them on my new kubuntu
[08:39] <melomane> DaSkreech: i did what i read in a article about that
[08:40] <melomane> DaSkreech: but when i i try to: sudo apt-get update , to update the list of my repositores, i recived this error for that new line i entered in dile sources.list
[08:41] <jbbarnes> mortici: I found a Linux Format article on udev. It will probably guide me further, so I'm going to read it. Thanks for your help.
[08:42] <melomane> DaSkreech: Failed to fetch file:/home/mahdi/packages/dists/debs///binary-amd64/Packages.gz File not found
[08:42] <DaSkreech> melomane: ha ha :-)
[08:42] <melomane> DaSkreech: ?
[08:42] <DaSkreech> melomane: copy them to the directory /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:43] <DaSkreech> no sources.list entry required
[08:43] <mortici_> jbbarnes: no problem
[08:43] <DaSkreech> please take that one out
[08:43] <melomane> DaSkreech: let me test that
[08:45] <melomane> DaSkreech: but i dont have the permission to copy anything in this direcotry
[08:45] <melomane> DaSkreech: i forgot the command to run konqueror in root privilage
[08:46] <DaSkreech> melomane: alt+f2 -> kdesu konqueror
[08:46] <melomane> kdesu , i used ksudo :D
[08:47] <Daisuke_Laptop> why
[08:47] <DaSkreech> melomane: You can press ctrl+shift+L when it's open
[08:47] <DaSkreech> to get two places side by side
[08:47] <DaSkreech> melomane: that should work in gutsy :)
[08:47] <DaSkreech> Well kdesudo
[08:47] <Daisuke_Laptop> oh, wait a second, konqueror as a file manager, not konqueror as a web browser.
[08:47] <melomane> DaSkreech: i c
[08:48] <DaSkreech> Daisuke_Laptop: trying to browse the treasury's site as root?
[08:48] <melomane> DaScreech: wow, thats really nice, i use linux for 2 years , and knew that about konquror but never tried that :D
[08:49] <DaSkreech> it super delish
[08:49] <DaSkreech> it is
[08:49] <DaSkreech> Ctrl+Shift+T if you like horizontal
[08:49] <DaSkreech> Ctrl+Shift+R to close which ever one is currently highlighted
[08:49] <Daisuke_Laptop> ...and who doesn't *wink wink nudge nudge*
[08:50] <Daisuke_Laptop> and i'm so going to bed now, it's late and i can't believe i just made that joke >_<
[08:50] <Daisuke_Laptop> goodnight
[08:51] <DaSkreech> night!
[08:52] <melomane> DaSkreech: wow, thanks. it works
[08:52] <melomane> DaSkreech: thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaank u
[08:52] <DaSkreech> btw melomane am I allowed to think it funny that you will apt-get from the command line but won't copy things on there? :)
[08:52] <DaSkreech> melomane: Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeellllllllllllllllllllllll>K<ooooooooooomeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[08:53] <Jucato> okaaaaay.... stop that... nowwww
[08:53] <DaSkreech> oooooooooo
[08:53] <DaSkreech> kkkkkkkkkkkkk
[08:54] <melomane> DaSkreech: yes u r right, u know i always have prblems with cp , mv, rm commands ;)
[08:54] <DaSkreech> want help with that?
[08:54] <melomane> DaSkreech :sure
[08:54] <DaSkreech> melomane: ok press alt+f2 and use konqueror
[08:54] <Jucato> O.o
[08:55] <DaSkreech> naw I'm joking. What problems do you have?
[08:55] <DaSkreech> what normally happens?
[08:55] <DaSkreech> it ism
[08:55] <melomane> DaSkreech: sometimes with directoues
[08:56] <DaSkreech> is;t by default?
[08:56] <DaSkreech> melomane: I hate directions to. How do you know when you have passed the "last left turn"?
[08:56] <DaSkreech> too
[08:56] <melomane> ?
[08:57] <DaSkreech> melomane: Sorry very very late jokes don't flow as easily
[08:57] <DaSkreech> melomane: what happens with directories?
[08:57] <DaSkreech> TECKBW: ask in #winehq
[08:57] <melomane> DaSkreech: for example i want to copy some files, but i c the diroctory is copied
[08:57] <TECKBW> thanks
[08:58] <DaSkreech> melomane: Woah You copied a directory by *accident* ?
[08:58] <DaSkreech> what did you type?
[08:59] <melomane> DaSkreech: i know thats because i dont know much about these commands, maybe i must read man ...
[08:59] <DaSkreech> melomane: Maybe that helps :) but what did you type if you remember
[08:59] <melomane> DaSkreech : i cant remember exacltly
[09:00] <melomane> DaSkreech: the problem is that i learned linux by experience
[09:00] <DaSkreech> melomane: ok do you remember the situation?
[09:00] <DaSkreech> you wanted to copy one file or some files or all the files?
[09:00] <melomane> DaSkreech: yes
[09:01] <melomane> DDaSkreech:: iwa ntet to copy some files in a direcotry to another direcotry
[09:01] <melomane> DaSkreech: but the directory itself was copieed
[09:01] <mortici_> whats the command to update grub after a kernel update?
[09:01] <DaSkreech> !grub | mortici_
[09:01] <ubotu> mortici_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:01] <DaSkreech> melomane: was there anything similar about the file names?
[09:02] <melomane> DaSkreech: id ont think so, but i am not sure
[09:02] <Daisuke_Laptop> mortici_: sudo update-grub
[09:02] <DaSkreech> ok so you named them out one by one?
[09:03] <melomane> DaSkreech: u mean copying one by one?
[09:03] <DaSkreech> melomane: no like cp mydir/file1 mydir/file3 mydir/anotherfile placeidumpstuff/
[09:04] <melomane> DaSkreech: no, not that way
[09:04] <DaSkreech> Thats copying three files (file1, file3, anotherfile) to a dir (placeidumpstuff)
[09:04] <melomane> i didnt knew that
[09:04] <melomane> *know
[09:04] <DaSkreech> melomane: ok what did it kinda look like?
[09:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> what happened to file2?
[09:05] <melomane> DaSkreech: i am not still much familiar with these commands, i will try more
[09:05] <DaSkreech> Daisuke_Laptop: realise the truth there is no file2
[09:05] <DaSkreech> melomane: ok well here is the qquick version
[09:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> so you just can't count?
[09:06] <DaSkreech> cp and mv work the same way
[09:06] <melomane> DaSkreech: oh i remembered another problem, with VCDs, my VCDs r not mounted. i mean i cant play VCDs
[09:06] <DaSkreech> they move [from]  [to] 
[09:06] <melomane> DaSkreech: dont u have anyproblem with VCD?
[09:06] <DaSkreech> Daisuke_Laptop: no melomane said that he didn't want to copy files that were in a pattern
[09:06] <DaSkreech> assuming that melomane is a he :)
[09:06] <DaSkreech> !vcd
[09:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vcd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:07] <melomane> yes "he"
[09:07] <melomane> ;)
[09:07] <DaSkreech> !codecs | melomane
[09:07] <ubotu> melomane: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:07] <DaSkreech> Short answer is you probably have to install libxine-extracodecs
[09:07] <melomane> i think the codec is installed
[09:07] <DaSkreech> ok
[09:07] <DaSkreech> Well let me finsh my first thingg so I can sleep :)
[09:08] <DaSkreech> cp and mv work the same way
[09:08] <DaSkreech> they move [from]  [to] 
[09:08] <DaSkreech> so simple is cp file filecopy
[09:08] <melomane> DaSkreech: anyway, u helped a lot
[09:08] <DaSkreech> which will copy one file to a new file called filecopy
[09:08] <melomane> DaDkreech: thanks a million
[09:09] <DaSkreech> if the [to]  is a directory then it copies/moves to the directory without renaming
[09:09] <DaSkreech> you can have multiple [froms]  but then [to]  HAS to be a directory
[09:10] <DaSkreech> so mv file1 file3 anotherfile .trash/
[09:10] <DaSkreech> moves those three into a .trash directory
[09:11] <melomane> DaSkreech: i'd better go to install the packages by that way u tought me
[09:11] <melomane> DaSkreech: thanks, and bye
[09:11] <DaSkreech> melomane: You can dump all of them in that folder and install them all in one go
[09:11] <DaSkreech> melomane: one last thing
[09:11] <melomane> DaSkreech: ok
[09:11] <DaSkreech> melomane: if you are copying or moving all the folders in directory then you use directoryname/*
[09:12] <DaSkreech> so cp pics/* backup/
[09:12] <DaSkreech> not cp pics/ backup/
[09:12] <melomane> DaSkreech: haaaaaaaaa, thats exactly what i should have done
[09:12] <DaSkreech> that might help your problem
[09:12] <melomane> DaSkreech: yes, u ru rught, i didnt type that *
[09:12] <DaSkreech> melomane: if you are copying a directory you have to use cp -r
[09:13] <DaSkreech> which is why it's a wonder that you pulled that off by accident
[09:13] <melomane> DaSkreech: yeah i c, i learned many thing today
[09:13] <melomane> DaSkreech: thanks,
[09:13] <DaSkreech> melomane: in anycase you can open konqueror and type man:/cp then press F4 to launch a Konsole and practice
[09:14] <DaSkreech> use the GUI while you can :)
[09:14] <melomane> DaSkreech: ;) thanks
[09:14] <DaSkreech> F4 in konqueror launces a konsolea whatever directory you are in
[09:14] <melomane> DaSkreech: good luck,bye
[09:14] <DaSkreech> useful :)
[09:14] <DaSkreech> byyyyyyyeeeeeee
[09:17] <DaSkreech> Jucato: may not see you tomorrow I have a road trip
[09:17] <DaSkreech> Jucato: all the best in your cooling efforts
[09:17] <Jucato> 33.0 C...
[09:17] <Jucato> thanks
[09:17] <DaSkreech> Head -> freezer :)
[09:38] <TECKBW> hi all....looking for a howto to set firefox as default web browser under kubuntu
[09:40] <jussi01> TECKBW: system settings -> default apps-> web browser
[09:41] <TECKBW> thanks...much appreciated for the quick reply
[09:42] <jussi01> :)
[09:52] <combinio> how to configure wine ??
[09:52] <Jucato> !wine
[09:52] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:52] <Jucato> and #winehq
[09:53] <combinio> Jucato: thx
[10:07] <dotz> hi.. i mount a nfs server as read write, but when i try to access it.. it keep saying its a read-only file system..why is it so?
[10:16] <waylandbill> dotz: permissions perhaps? you need to have write access to the remote files as if they were local ones. that could be one possibility
[10:18] <combinio> how can i compile binary files ?e.g. i downloaded stratagus and don't know how to install :}
[10:18] <Jucato> !compile | combinio
[10:18] <ubotu> combinio: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:18] <combinio> Jucato: thx once again :)
[10:18] <Jucato> and you don't "compile binary files", you compile source code *into* binary format :)
[10:19] <combinio> Jucato: yeap - my mistake... i mean how to compile SRC files :)
[10:19] <combinio> right
[10:19] <dotz> hi.. i mount a nfs server as read write, but when i try to access it.. it keep saying its a read-only file system..why is it so?
[10:23] <waylandbill> !repeat | dotz
[10:23] <ubotu> dotz: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:24] <waylandbill> combinio: you do know that stratagus is in the repositories already right?
[10:24] <waylandbill> !info stratagus
[10:24] <ubotu> stratagus: realtime strategy game for Unix and X. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1-9.1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 563 kB, installed size 1328 kB
[10:25] <combinio> so i can install it with apt-get ? :] 
[10:25] <waylandbill> yes
[10:25] <Jucato> combinio: when looking for software to install, first look in our repositories because that will be the easiest way to install things
[10:25] <combinio> waylandbill: thanks the Lord... cuz this compilation was going to be SOOO hard ;P
[10:26] <Jucato> second would be a .deb (Debian) package, and third and only last resort would be to compile from source code
[10:26] <combinio> and how to look in repositories ?
[10:26] <waylandbill> apt-cache
[10:26] <combinio> where is some kind if list of availble program
[10:26] <combinio> ok
[10:26] <Jucato> combinio: either Add/Remove Programs or System -> Adept Manager
[10:26] <Jucato> (you might find Adept Manager to give you a fuller list)
[10:26] <waylandbill> or even apt:/ in konqueror.
[10:27] <Jucato> yeah that...
[10:27] <combinio> Jucato: but R U sure is this comaptiblewith OS ?? i mean is that automatic installation of different programms won't crash kubuntu ?
[10:28] <waylandbill> the repos are probably the safest option. (that doesn't imply completely safe)
[10:28] <Jucato> combinio: software in the repositories is compiled and packaged specificially for Kubuntu. so yes it is compatible
[10:28] <Jucato> !repeat
[10:28] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:28] <Jucato> there. better :)
[10:29] <combinio> Jucato: ok then :)
[10:29] <Jucato> !install
[10:29] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[10:29] <Jucato> er wrong one
[10:29] <waylandbill> :)
[10:29] <combinio> crap! doesn't work :/   ' ./stratagus: error while loading shared libraries: libmikmod.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory '
[10:29] <combinio> still same error
[10:30] <Jucato> combinio: this is after you installed from apt-get?
[10:30] <combinio> yeap
[10:30] <waylandbill> !info libmikmod2
[10:30] <ubotu> libmikmod2: A portable sound library. In component main, is optional. Version 3.1.11-a-6ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 141 kB, installed size 352 kB
[10:30] <the-erm> I just came in ... what's the problem.
[10:30] <the-erm> Maybe I've had it.
[10:30] <combinio> oh wait a sec... i downloaded version of Warcraft 2 that has been compiled without sound
[10:30] <waylandbill> whoever packaged it forgot a dependency.
[10:30] <combinio> so maybe because of this it doesn't work :] 
[10:30] <the-erm> libsnd ?
[10:31] <Jucato> O.o
[10:31] <combinio> :: "" the game has not an oryginal music but ripped music from WAGUS ""
[10:32] <combinio> he prefers turn off the music at all :/ but writes it works as well :] 
[10:32] <mecannotread> guys how can i start the wizardprog of kppp cause i want to connect the internet
[10:32] <combinio> this dude copmiled WC2 game that has 33.71 mb :D and probably works under linux :D
[10:33] <combinio> :: it is avaible on torrent
[10:34] <combinio> nevermind then... i'll get WC2 under WinXP and run it with WINE :D
[10:35] <combinio> i guess it would be working :)
[10:35] <combinio> linux is not game-playing OS
[10:35] <combinio> btw. do u use CEDEGA ?
[10:35] <combinio> i've heard it's little better than wine for games, huh ?
[10:36] <combinio> !cedega
[10:36] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[10:36] <Jucato> the only reason why "linux is not game-playing OS" is because those games were not made to run on Linux. that isn't Linux's fault
[10:37] <combinio> Jucato: actually that's right :)
[10:37] <Jucato> !wow
[10:37] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[10:37] <combinio> do u use some emulators like wine or cedega ?
[10:37] <Jucato> no
[10:38] <combinio> Jucato: ok then...........
[10:38] <combinio> so what are u doing on you kubuntu all the time ? :D
[10:38] <combinio> cuz i can see u're always being on-line :] 
[10:39] <Jucato> studying programming, but getting distracted in here all the time
[10:39] <combinio> Jucato: programming... that's cool :)
[10:40] <combinio> ok so i'm gonna disturb u anymore :)
[10:40] <combinio> Jucato: :: also thanks for help :)
[10:40] <Jucato> heh it's ok
[10:40] <Jucato> it's part of my job to get distracted in here
[10:45] <ghostov> heyy can any one plz tell me how can i get my drive  partition  in these system ???
[10:46] <_Shade_> how do i mount fat32 partition with read write access
[10:47] <ghostov> i guess we all here don't know anything about that  system
[10:48] <Jucato> combinio: btw, stratagus works fine here. "sudo apt-get install stratagus" and then plain "stratagus" runs fine
[10:49] <combinio> so probably this WC2 is crashed ;}
[10:49] <combinio> thanks for answer anyway :)
[10:50] <idaga> hey any one feelin like answering some q's from a n3wbie?
[10:50] <Jucato> !anyone
[10:50] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:50] <idaga> haha i suppose
[10:51] <idaga> alright
[10:51] <idaga> i'm trying to get my wireless lan working
[10:51] <idaga> i can't even get ndiswrapper installed
[10:51] <Jucato> hm..
[10:51] <idaga> i get like 2 page list of error messages
[10:51] <Jucato> !ndiswrapper
[10:51] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:51] <hangthedj> kflickr is neat
[10:52] <idaga> i've tried like all day it even tapped into my nfl watching
[10:52] <idaga> no dice on the install after almost every tutorial and multiple os re-installs
[10:52] <idaga> i feel like i'm missing something easy
[10:53] <idaga> i don't think i'll ever figure it out and i'm gonna go back to win xp ;\
[10:53] <rulea_>   !
[10:54] <rulea_>    .
[10:54] <rulea_> !!! :)
[10:54] <hangthedj> idaga, what wireless card do you have?
[10:55] <idaga> its an integrated broadcom
[10:56] <idaga> in a HP ze4500
[10:56] <hangthedj> is it a laptop or desktop?
[10:56] <emilsedgh> idaga: you want help with broadcom?
[10:56] <idaga> laptop
[10:56] <idaga> yeah i do
[10:56] <emilsedgh> idaga: it works easily
[10:57] <emilsedgh> idaga: just install ndiswrapper
[10:57] <idaga> thats whats messed up
[10:57] <idaga> i can't get that do install
[10:57] <emilsedgh> idaga: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-common
[10:57] <emilsedgh> could you please copy the errors?
[10:58] <idaga> yeah just a sec
[10:59] <hangthedj> idaga, pastebin preferably
[10:59] <hangthedj> !paste
[10:59] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:59] <august> I have a dvd drive that is not working on an ibm machine anyone that can help?
[11:00] <august> When I sett in a cd the drive does not read it....  just wanted to know if anyone knew what was going on?
[11:00] <august> I have put in a new burned for the old one that I have had on this computer before.
[11:02] <idaga> http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/index.php?/component/option,com_fireboard/Itemid,34/func,view/id,66/catid,2/
[11:02] <idaga> if u goto that url thats the similar message i'm getting
[11:03] <vistakiller> august you see the cd in your /etc/fstab?
[11:03] <idaga> sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-com
[11:04] <idaga> when ido that it says E: coldn't find package ndiswrapper-common
[11:05] <vistakiller> idaga
[11:05] <vistakiller> give in terminal
[11:05] <hangthedj> idaga: those errors are missing required libraries.  do you have build-essentials installed?
[11:05] <vistakiller> apt-cache search ndiswrapper
[11:05] <kdxx> where are my man source files for the tar command?
[11:05] <hangthedj> and linux-headers?
[11:05] <august> -/dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[11:05] <vistakiller> you will see that this pagage exist in ubuntu repos
[11:06] <idaga> well i've never installed anything else succesfully maybe i need those files
[11:06] <idaga> its called 'build-essentials'?
[11:06] <vistakiller> sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-common
[11:07] <vistakiller> august only this you have?
[11:07] <august> yes
[11:07] <august> that is all i got
[11:07] <vistakiller> ok wait to check it
[11:07] <hangthedj> do sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[11:07] <vistakiller> august is ok
[11:07] <august> It does not find the cd i put in, in amarok either
[11:08] <vistakiller> what problem you have exactly?
[11:08] <august> that my cd dvd driver does not read anything
[11:08] <emilsedgh> why you want to compile ndiswrapper? you dont need to...
[11:08] <august> when i put it in it does not even read the cd
[11:08] <vistakiller> is working?
[11:08] <emilsedgh> idaga: ^
[11:08] <vistakiller> the cd driver working?
[11:08] <august> no
[11:08] <august> not working at all
[11:09] <august> i think i need a driver but i dont know how to do it...
[11:09] <idaga> it says couldn't find package build-essentials
[11:09] <vistakiller> what driver you have?
[11:09] <august> let me look
[11:09] <hangthedj> idaga: do build-essential without the s
[11:09] <august> dvd multi + IBM
[11:10] <august> dvd + rewritible
[11:10] <vistakiller> is very strang that is not working
[11:10] <august> yeah i know.....i dont have a clue
[11:10] <idaga> same thing
[11:10] <vistakiller> give to the terminal kcontrol
[11:10] <idaga> the laptop isn't connected to the internet at all does that make a difference?
[11:11] <idaga> is that where the apt-get taps?
[11:11] <august> i am in the terminal now
[11:11] <vistakiller> kcontrol now
[11:11] <vistakiller> without now :P
[11:11] <hangthedj> idaga: what version are you running 'lsb_release -d' and do you have all the repositories marked
[11:11] <vistakiller> you open it?
[11:11] <august> yeah i am in the terminal
[11:11] <vistakiller> ok
[11:11] <august> and wrote kcontrol
[11:12] <august> it is open
[11:12] <vistakiller> ok find something in menu about disk and system..
[11:12] <vistakiller> i think is in the third from the top
[11:13] <august> ok
[11:13] <vistakiller> you find it
[11:13] <vistakiller> ?
[11:13] <august> yeah
[11:13] <vistakiller> in the right you must see your hard disk
[11:13] <august> yeah
[11:13] <vistakiller> and to the top your cd burner?
[11:14] <vistakiller> you see your dvd player?
[11:14] <idaga> ubuntuo 7.04
[11:14] <august> nope
[11:14] <Raspberry> is the kubuntu 7.10 cd any different than the ubuntu 7.10 cd?
[11:14] <idaga> man... i don't what repositories are
[11:15] <vistakiller> what it said?
[11:15] <hangthedj> idaga, ndiswrapper-common is in the main repository so you should be able to install it using sudo apt-get ndiswrapper-common
[11:15] <hangthedj> !repository
[11:15] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:15] <august> nothing
[11:15] <_4strO> Raspberry: ubuntu come with gnome and kubuntu with kde ..
[11:15] <Raspberry> i konw
[11:15] <vistakiller> you see your hard disk?
[11:15] <august> yeah
[11:16] <hangthedj> idaga, repositories are where the packages come from.  us.archive.ubuntu.com
[11:16] <Raspberry> i know -- but I already have the ubuntu Cd downloaded -- but I'd rather run KDE -- is it cleaner to install from the Kubuntu disc?
[11:16] <vistakiller> ok the system cant see your drive
[11:16] <_4strO> Raspberry: you will have both wm
[11:16] <hangthedj> the k/x/ed/ubuntu default repositories are main restricted multiverse and universe in /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:16] <vistakiller> i dont know wha you can do
[11:17] <SlimeyPete> Raspberry: there's no problem with installing kubuntu-desktop after installing ubuntu
[11:17] <SlimeyPete> works fine
[11:17] <idaga> everythim i try to do an apt-get it gives me this message "E: Couldn't find package xxxxx"
[11:17] <august> hmmmmmmmmmm
[11:17] <idaga> what is the E: thing
[11:17] <murlidhar> i have ubuntu installed and i want to install kde desktop in it. how do i do it?  i have kubuntu feisty fawn cd.
[11:17] <Raspberry> I tried the Gutsy tribe5 on my desktop and it is mangled :)  IT works fine on my dedicated MythTV box though :)
[11:17] <vistakiller> try to search ubuntu forum
[11:17] <hangthedj> idaga, try 'sudo apt-get update' then try installing things.
[11:17] <vistakiller> with the name of your laptop
[11:17] <_4strO> SlimeyPete: u'm not agree, if he will only use KDE, many things will be unusefull on his installation
[11:17] <Jucato> idaga: E: means error. W: means warning
[11:18] <SlimeyPete> _4strO: so? Disk space is cheap.
[11:18] <august> ibm thinkpad
[11:18] <_4strO> SlimeyPete: yep but not so clean in the K menu ...
[11:18] <vistakiller> try to see if can find a solution is very strange prob
[11:18] <Raspberry> i only have a 30gb partition for the OS :)  Disk space is much more expensive :P
[11:18] <SlimeyPete> _4strO: the K menu's never clean ;)
[11:18] <august> i cant even find the hard drive in k control
[11:18] <_4strO> ...
[11:19] <vistakiller> you havent go to the right menu then
[11:19] <Raspberry> can I run Compiz Fusion on KDE (aka with Kubuntu?)
[11:19] <august> what do i type in consol?
[11:19] <august> kcontrol?
[11:19] <Jucato> Raspberry: yes
[11:19] <august> i did that and it came up
[11:19] <vistakiller> try to find the disks and file system
[11:19] <_4strO> SlimeyPete: i think download the right version is better
[11:19] <murlidhar> and i do not want to download kde-desktop from internet but i do have  a kubuntu cd.
[11:19] <Jucato> !compiz | Raspberry
[11:19] <ubotu> Raspberry: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:19] <vistakiller> from the kcontrol
[11:19] <august> ok
[11:19] <_4strO> SlimeyPete: you can buy a white car and paint it black ..
[11:20] <august> what to do when i get to the kcontrol?
[11:20] <_4strO> SlimeyPete: but why do this ?
[11:20] <idaga> like i was saying the laptop has no internet connection right now
[11:20] <SlimeyPete> _4strO: because you already have a white car?
[11:20] <idaga> so i don't think i can use the apt-get function
[11:20] <SlimeyPete> no point spending ages downloading a new ISO.
[11:20] <vistakiller> you have a menu in kcontrol
[11:20] <vistakiller> in the left window
[11:21] <august> yes i have with lots of different things on it....
[11:21] <vistakiller> ok
[11:21] <_4strO> SlimeyPete: a CD is cheaper than Freespace on HD
[11:21] <_4strO> ;)
[11:21] <idaga> oh well i gotta goto bed i appreciate your help a lot
[11:21] <august> appearence and themes, desktop, etc. etc
[11:21] <idaga> pz
[11:21] <vistakiller> try to find something that it say disk and file systems
[11:21] <hangthedj> idaga, yeah, you won't be able to get anything without an internet connection.
[11:21] <idaga> ;\
[11:21] <august> periphials???
[11:21] <th3sn0wbr4in> heLLow all :P
[11:22] <august> it has mouse, keyboard etc....but it does not have anything about a cd player or dvd player
[11:22] <SlimeyPete> _4strO: not much cheaper, and you can clear and re-use HD space later on ;)
[11:22] <vistakiller> no cd player
[11:22] <hangthedj> hi! | th3sn0wbr4in
[11:22] <vistakiller> not in this part
[11:22] <august> oh ok....
[11:22] <august> what should i look for then?
[11:22] <august> found it
[11:22] <august> disk and file systems
[11:23] <vistakiller> yeah :)
[11:23] <hangthedj> august, yes
[11:23] <august> found burner
[11:23] <vistakiller> what it say in the right?
[11:23] <august> it says disabled
[11:23] <august> ????
[11:23] <august> not enabled
[11:23] <th3sn0wbr4in> :D
[11:23] <vistakiller> ok because you dont have a cd in the player
[11:23] <murlidhar> help me please somebody. i have kubuntu cd and i only want to install kde-desktop in my existing ubuntu. When i give command sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop it goes to internet instead of going to cd.
[11:23] <vistakiller> tell me all the line
[11:24] <murlidhar> i have added the cd in the repositeries
[11:24] <th3sn0wbr4in> :-?
[11:24] <august> ok
[11:24] <th3sn0wbr4in> may i know talkin bout what ?
[11:24] <th3sn0wbr4in> :D
[11:24] <th3sn0wbr4in> sudo apt-cdrom add
[11:24] <august> burner dvd-ram uj-830s /media/cdfrom0 auto  /dev/scd0 disabled
[11:24] <th3sn0wbr4in> and then insert ur cd
[11:25] <th3sn0wbr4in> may be u have kubuntu cd, murlidhar
[11:25] <th3sn0wbr4in> :D
[11:25] <murlidhar> yes i hve kubuntu cd
[11:25] <vistakiller> ok we find that the dvd is working
[11:25] <th3sn0wbr4in> yeah
[11:25] <th3sn0wbr4in> just run apt-cdrom add
[11:25] <th3sn0wbr4in> insert cd
[11:25] <august> --- when i try to enable it it says /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[11:25] <th3sn0wbr4in> enter
[11:25] <th3sn0wbr4in> and then
[11:25] <th3sn0wbr4in> sudo apt-get update
[11:25] <th3sn0wbr4in> :D
[11:25] <th3sn0wbr4in> simple ;)
[11:26] <vistakiller> august
[11:26] <august> yes
[11:27] <vistakiller> put a cd in your system
[11:27] <august> ok
[11:27] <vistakiller> close kcontrol
[11:27] <august> its in
[11:27] <vistakiller> and open it again
[11:27] <august> closed
[11:27] <august> ok opened
[11:27] <vistakiller> and see the cd is enable
[11:27] <th3sn0wbr4in> murlidhar: solved ?
[11:27] <vistakiller> is active now?
[11:27] <murlidhar> i am at sudo pat-get update
[11:27] <august> no disabled
[11:28] <murlidhar> apt-get*
[11:28] <murlidhar> after that how do i install kde-desktop ?
[11:28] <th3sn0wbr4in> :-?
[11:28] <august> when i try to mount it says
[11:28] <august> The system reported: mount: block device /dev/scd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[11:28] <august> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[11:29] <th3sn0wbr4in> wait, disable the internet repositories
[11:29] <th3sn0wbr4in> sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:29] <th3sn0wbr4in> just leave the cd as source
[11:30] <murlidhar> how to disable internet repositories?
[11:30] <th3sn0wbr4in> by add '#' character in the begin
[11:30] <vistakiller> i dont august what happen
[11:30] <vistakiller> but i am sure that the system see your driver
[11:30] <vistakiller> is not this problem
[11:31] <murlidhar> is there any gui method?
[11:31] <th3sn0wbr4in> i.e : deb http://kambing.ui.edu/ubuntu feisty main restricted universe multiverse
[11:31] <august> yeah it sees my driver
[11:31] <th3sn0wbr4in> that's mine
[11:31] <august> but it just doesnt work
[11:31] <th3sn0wbr4in> owh...
[11:31] <th3sn0wbr4in> guid metho
[11:31] <vistakiller> something with the mount
[11:31] <hangthedj> august, thats because you can't write to a dvd unless its blank
[11:31] <august> yeah but i cant play a cd either
[11:31] <th3sn0wbr4in> use adept manager for kubuntu
[11:31] <august> it is a cd in there now with music on it
[11:31] <th3sn0wbr4in> or synaptic for ubuntu
[11:31] <th3sn0wbr4in> august, may i know ur prob ? :D
[11:32] <august> yeah??
[11:32] <murlidhar> now what? i have entered into synaptic manager.
[11:32] <mark105> hello
[11:32] <august> cant find my dvd cd driver
[11:32] <august> it has found it but it is disabled
[11:32] <august> and i cant get it enabled
[11:32] <august> The system reported: mount: block device /dev/scd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[11:32] <august> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[11:33] <th3sn0wbr4in> :-? ....
[11:33] <mark105> whats best way to use samba shares in kubuntu as can browse them n so on with konquerer but when it comes to playin movies i need to mount them some how
[11:33] <th3sn0wbr4in> block device /dev/scd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[11:34] <th3sn0wbr4in> it said that ur cd detected
[11:34] <th3sn0wbr4in> try mount with '-t auto' option ?
[11:34] <august> how do i do that?
[11:35] <Raspberry> So I've got KDE installed with Compiz now... but my title bars are gone off of all the aps
[11:35] <Raspberry> apps
[11:35] <th3sn0wbr4in> murlidhar: in menut bar
[11:35] <th3sn0wbr4in> in menu bar
[11:36] <th3sn0wbr4in> try to get manager repositories option
[11:36] <th3sn0wbr4in> in adept is, Adept -> Manage Repositories
[11:36] <murlidhar> yes there is
[11:36] <hangthedj> Raspberry, try Alt+F2 >> emerald --replace
[11:37] <august> dont have a clue
[11:37] <th3sn0wbr4in> august: sudo mount /dev/scd0 /media/cd -t auto
[11:37] <Raspberry> it can't find the command emerald
[11:37] <Raspberry> :)
[11:37] <th3sn0wbr4in> it must be iso9660 fs
[11:38] <hangthedj> sudo apt-get emerald
[11:38] <Raspberry> :)
[11:38] <Raspberry> yeah I just did
[11:38] <Raspberry> strange that you could install compiz w/o that
[11:38] <th3sn0wbr4in> murlidhar: you can un-check the internet sources
[11:38] <th3sn0wbr4in> :D
[11:38] <murlidhar> i have done it
[11:38] <_4strO> Raspberry: you should have emerald-themes too
[11:38] <murlidhar> now what?
[11:38] <Raspberry> _4strO, says there's no package for emerald themes -- although it's suggested
[11:38] <th3sn0wbr4in> click, fetch updates
[11:38] <th3sn0wbr4in> :D
[11:39] <hangthedj> Raspberry, running gutsy?
[11:39] <th3sn0wbr4in> if exist ;), or something like that :D
[11:39] <Raspberry> hangthedj, yeah
[11:39] <Raspberry> yay -- now I have titlebars again :P
[11:39] <th3sn0wbr4in> august: dmesg|grep scd
[11:39] <th3sn0wbr4in> and, paste here :D
[11:39] <hangthedj> it will just default to a ugly theme, but you can edit and change it.
[11:39] <_4strO> Raspberry: you try with emerald-themes ??
[11:39] <Raspberry> _4strO, yes... there's no package for it in Gutsy
[11:39] <_4strO> ha !
[11:39] <hangthedj> gutsy doesn't have an emerald themes package.
[11:40] <hangthedj> ??
[11:40] <hangthedj> weird right
[11:40] <th3sn0wbr4in> :D
[11:40] <Raspberry> _4strO, Package emerald-themes has no installation candidate
[11:40] <Raspberry> :)
[11:40] <august> where should i write that?
[11:40] <murlidhar> k searched the updates it shows nothing
[11:41] <_4strO> Raspberry: that's very weird that you can have emerald but not the thmes with it
[11:41] <murlidhar> there is an option to add a cd-rom in repositories i have added the cd-rom
[11:42] <th3sn0wbr4in> murlidhar: is ur cd desktop version ?
[11:42] <murlidhar> but i can't still install kubuntu-desktop
[11:42] <murlidhar> yes
[11:42] <Jucato> yay finally someone asked the relevant question
[11:42] <th3sn0wbr4in> yeah
[11:42] <th3sn0wbr4in> if ur cd is desktop
[11:42] <th3sn0wbr4in> may be u cann't
[11:42] <Jucato> you can't use the Desktop/Live CD as a repository
[11:42] <th3sn0wbr4in> u should get the alternate version
[11:42] <murlidhar> ok
[11:43] <Jucato> meaning, you can't use it to install kubuntu-desktop
[11:43] <th3sn0wbr4in> yeah, Jucato right
[11:43] <th3sn0wbr4in> :D
[11:43] <hangthedj> you can use the Live CD as a repository, but it only has main with it.
[11:43] <th3sn0wbr4in> august: in konsole
[11:43] <th3sn0wbr4in> or terminal
[11:43] <Jucato> hangthedj: no you absolutely can't
[11:43] <august> ok what should i write again?
[11:43] <august> dp
[11:43] <august> ???
[11:43] <hangthedj> i've done it with feisty, don't know about gusty
[11:43] <Jucato> hangthedj: desktop cd? maybe you mean the alternate install cd
[11:44] <Jucato> because the desktop cd doesn't have .deb packages to use as a repository
[11:44] <hangthedj> nope, all i've ever downloaded are the desktop cds since edgy. and apt-cdrom add with the feisty cd worked.
[11:44] <Jucato> unless you added the cd as a repository while connected to the internet
[11:44] <august> mount: mount point /media/cd does not exist
[11:44] <Jucato> in which case it will ignore the cd and use the online repositories
[11:44] <th3sn0wbr4in> lol
[11:44] <th3sn0wbr4in> u must create /media/cd
[11:44] <hangthedj> but it was only the main repository
[11:44] <th3sn0wbr4in> sudo mkdir /media/cd
[11:44] <Raspberry> hmm -- so KDE on Gutsy seems to be working alright
[11:45] <Raspberry> Gnome won't load at all anymore :p
[11:45] <Raspberry> I think I'll purge all the gnome packages and see if that cleans things up a bit
[11:46] <th3sn0wbr4in> Jucato: u can use it for repositories
[11:46] <Jucato> last time I tried to install ubuntu-desktop, I couldn't login in to either KDE or GNOME... as if I was being punished...
[11:46] <stdin> Jucato: it does have a few packages, mostly for network, http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/7.04/kubuntu-7.04-desktop-amd64.list
[11:46] <Jucato> (on gutsy)
[11:46] <th3sn0wbr4in> but, not m,any packet can be installed with it
[11:46] <Jucato> must have been changed then
[11:46] <Raspberry> I can't log into Gnome now :)
[11:46] <th3sn0wbr4in> ianis@th3sn0wbr4in:/media/cdrom$ apt-cdrom add
[11:46] <th3sn0wbr4in> Using CD-ROM mount point /cdrom/
[11:46] <th3sn0wbr4in> Unmounting CD-ROM
[11:46] <th3sn0wbr4in> Waiting for disc...
[11:46] <th3sn0wbr4in> Please insert a Disc in the drive and press enter
[11:46] <th3sn0wbr4in> Mounting CD-ROM...
[11:46] <th3sn0wbr4in> Identifying.. [1cfbb2778c6fde3aed5caf08923bf2e9-2] 
[11:46] <Jucato> !paste | th3sn0wbr4in
[11:46] <ubotu> th3sn0wbr4in: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:46] <th3sn0wbr4in> This disc is called:
[11:46] <th3sn0wbr4in> 'Kubuntu 7.04 _Feisty Fawn_ - Release i386 (20070417)'
[11:47] <th3sn0wbr4in> Copying package lists...gpgv: Signature made Tue 17 Apr 2007 12:55:04 PM WIT using DSA key ID FBB75451
[11:47] <Jucato> tsk tsk
[11:47] <th3sn0wbr4in> Found 2 package indexes, 0 source indexes, 0 translation indexes and 1 signatures     -->>> just 2 packets found :)
[11:47] <th3sn0wbr4in> all of 'tem, CMIIW :D
[11:47] <murlidhar> hangthedj: when i first put the cd  in. I got a message if i wanted to add it in repositories.
[11:47] <stdin> Jucato: it has done since atleast dapper :p
[11:47] <Jucato> hm... perhaps not for the kubuntu-desktop package
[11:47] <th3sn0wbr4in> yeah
[11:47] <th3sn0wbr4in> that's i mean
[11:48] <Jucato> which is the point of the exercise
[11:48] <th3sn0wbr4in> so, murlidhar
[11:48] <th3sn0wbr4in> to install it, u must have alternate version
[11:48] <th3sn0wbr4in> or use the internet as repo. source ;)
[11:48] <mm_202> Hey guys, KUbuntu 7.10, KDE 3.5.7, and Im having a problem with /dev/dsp.  Ive tried the usual 'fuser /dev/dsp' ,etc.  But nothing seems to be using it.  But all my KDE / X sounds work just fine.
[11:49] <mm_202> play test.wav :   sox: Can't open output file '/dev/dsp': Device or resource busy
[11:49] <murlidhar> i guess it is better to download alternative cd
[11:50] <th3sn0wbr4in> yeah
[11:50] <th3sn0wbr4in> and then, mount the iso file
[11:50] <th3sn0wbr4in> :D
[11:50] <th3sn0wbr4in> not need to burn the iso file to cd
[11:50] <th3sn0wbr4in> :D
[11:50] <murlidhar> how to mount the iso file?
[11:51] <Jucato> !iso
[11:51] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[11:51] <murlidhar> k thnks jucato
[11:51] <th3sn0wbr4in> :D
[11:52] <Jucato> stdin: your shift starts now
[11:52] <murlidhar> thnks th3sn0wbr4in
[11:52] <Jucato> finally temp drops to 31.0 C :P
[11:52] <th3sn0wbr4in> you'we welcome
[11:52] <th3sn0wbr4in> :D
[11:52] <Jucato> stdin: thanks. bbl :P
[11:53] <th3sn0wbr4in> anyone have blog ?! :D
[11:53] <th3sn0wbr4in> my blog : www.ianis.blogspot.com
[11:53] <th3sn0wbr4in> may be i can put in blogroll :D
[11:54] <th3sn0wbr4in> but,,,my blog still indonesian lang. :-s
[11:54] <th3sn0wbr4in> :D
[11:54] <stdin> !planet
[11:54] <ubotu> Planet Ubuntu (blogs of Ubuntu developers and members) can be found at http://planet.ubuntu.com
[11:54] <th3sn0wbr4in> :D
[11:55] <stdin> btw...
[11:55] <stdin> !id
[11:55] <ubotu> join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[11:55] <th3sn0wbr4in> ianis@th3sn0wbr4in:/media/sda/music$ mplayer * (i'm dancing...)
[11:55] <th3sn0wbr4in> :D
[11:55] <th3sn0wbr4in> owh,,,thanks
[11:55] <th3sn0wbr4in> just a few people :-s
[11:55] <th3sn0wbr4in> :D
[11:55] <murlidhar> do bots work very good
[11:55] <murlidhar> ?
[11:55] <murlidhar> :)
[11:55] <stdin> th3sn0wbr4in: it's probably a LoCo team, and if there's a LoCo they will probably have a planet too ;)
[11:56] <murlidhar> !porn :)
[11:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about porn :) - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:56] <stdin> murlidhar: don't mess with the bot in the channel, use /msg ubotu something
[11:56] <th3sn0wbr4in> owh...
[11:56] <th3sn0wbr4in> :D
[11:57] <th3sn0wbr4in> LOL
[11:57] <murlidhar> i am sorry i was just joking
[11:57] <th3sn0wbr4in> porn will make u waste time
[11:57] <th3sn0wbr4in> :D
[11:57] <murlidhar> i don't watch porn
[11:57] <murlidhar> :/
[11:57] <th3sn0wbr4in> :D
[11:58] <th3sn0wbr4in> mplayer -loop 0 *  <-- the loop will work fine
[11:58] <neosix> hello everybody!!!
[11:58] <th3sn0wbr4in> but mplayer * -loop 0 won't play the music infinitive :D
[11:58] <th3sn0wbr4in> hello neosix
[11:58] <th3sn0wbr4in> :D
[11:59] <neosix> I've just install Kubuntu and I'm  :-D
[11:59] <MaTiAz> neosix: yeah, Kubuntu is the best:)
[11:59] <neosix> yeeeee
[12:00] <th3sn0wbr4in> :D
[12:00] <th3sn0wbr4in> but,,,,
[12:00] <neosix>  :-D
[12:00] <hangthedj> kde is neat-o
[12:00] <th3sn0wbr4in> why can't get repositories with free
[12:01] <th3sn0wbr4in> i used kubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso as repositories in my feisty :-s
[12:01] <th3sn0wbr4in> :D
[12:01] <murlidhar> bye th3sn0wbr4in
[12:02] <th3sn0wbr4in> bye
[12:02] <th3sn0wbr4in> :D
[12:02] <neosix> Does anybody know some good download manager like getright?
[12:03] <hangthedj> kget
[12:03] <th3sn0wbr4in> anyone know the setting for autologging for kopete ? chat log i mean :D
[12:03] <th3sn0wbr4in> hangthedj: know it ?
[12:03] <hangthedj> th3sn0wbr4in, i thought logs were on by default for kopete?
[12:04] <neosix> hangthedj: can I use getright on Kubuntu
[12:04] <hangthedj> omg 3am
[12:04] <hangthedj> neosix, not sure. never heard of it.
[12:04] <th3sn0wbr4in> hangthedj: i didn't see anyoption like that
[12:04] <th3sn0wbr4in> :D
[12:04] <neosix> hangthedj: OK thanks
[12:05] <hangthedj> neosix, is getright for windows?
[12:05] <neosix> yes, but there is some version for Linux
[12:06] <hangthedj> neosix, go to http://www.google.com/linux and search for getright
[12:06] <combo> after installing wine and some MSfonts default system font has changed... :S how to restore it ?
[12:06] <neosix> OK I'll try
[12:07] <hangthedj> combo, sytem settings >> fonts
[12:07] <combo> and what should be the name of default fonts ??
[12:07] <combo> i have San Serif 9
[12:07] <hangthedj> combo, you could try hitting the default button, or choose the fonts you want.
[12:08] <combo> it looks this stupid MS-font is default now... cuz after clicking DEFAULT nothing happen ?
[12:09] <hangthedj> wheres stdin and intelikey, i don't know what i'm talking about :p
[12:09] <combo> maybe it is something about anti-aliasing?
[12:09] <combo> ot Force fonts DPI ? :?
[12:09] <hangthedj> i mean i think i do, but maybe idont.
[12:09] <hangthedj> go to system settings >> fonts and choose your default fonts.
[12:10] <hangthedj> whatever you want.
[12:10] <combo> hangthedj: there is same font as it used to be... called 'Sans Serif 9'
[12:10] <combo> but it is changed definately
[12:10] <combo> it seems little different than before
[12:11] <combo> and what is this option anti-aliasing ?
[12:11] <hangthedj> combo, change it to Sans Serif 10, and back to Sans Serif 9
[12:11] <combo> hangthedj: ok
[12:11] <combo> hangthedj: actually it lookes like san serif but like WINDOWS-sans-serif
[12:12] <combo> wait what the hell i'm talking about!? it has been changeed only at opera browser
[12:12] <combo> nowhere else
[12:12] <hangthedj> san-serif is ugly change it to ubuntu-title :p
[12:13] <hangthedj> combo, then go into the opera settings and change it :D
[12:14] <combo> crap! it changed all fonts on arial/times new roman/courier :////////////// NOOOOOOOOOO
[12:14] <combo> this stupid winXP stuff :(((
[12:14] <combo> and now i have to change it... such many fonts...
[12:14] <combo> it will take ages :(
[12:15] <hangthedj> combo, but it will be well worth it.
[12:15] <combo> can someone tell me what is default font in OPERA ?:)
[12:15] <combo> hangthedj: yeap, i know :D
[12:16] <combo> i have to know what font should i set, i don't wanna make any mess :/
[12:16] <combo> does any of u use OPERA browser??
[12:17] <sander_> Does someone here actually use the KDE4 Beta 2 release?
[12:18] <sander_> cause over here it's quite crippeled
[12:18] <hangthedj> th3sn0wbr4in, open the main kopete window, to show your contacts, right click on the contact you want to view a log, then click on history.
[12:18] <hangthedj> sander_, nope
[12:18] <hangthedj> combo, a little, not much
[12:21] <hangthedj> combo, what about opera are you wondering about?
[12:21] <Raspberry> how do I reapply an emerald theme?  I want to change from one engine to another ?
[12:21] <th3sn0wbr4in> hangthedj: there isn't history option bro
[12:22] <hangthedj> th3sn0wbr4in, if i right click on a contact it has view history towards the bottom.
[12:22] <th3sn0wbr4in> nope
[12:22] <th3sn0wbr4in> there isn't something like that
[12:22] <hangthedj> Raspberry, what do you mean from one engine to another?  you mean theme?
[12:22] <th3sn0wbr4in> that's why i'm asking
[12:23] <Jucato> th3sn0wbr4in: Settings -> COnfigure Plugins -> History plugin
[12:23] <th3sn0wbr4in> been explore
[12:23] <Jucato> it's enabled by default, but isn't really enabled
[12:23] <Jucato> you have to disable, click apply, then enable again
[12:24] <hangthedj> i forgot about the plugin section :D
[12:24] <hangthedj> theres lots of neat stuff there.
[12:25] <th3sn0wbr4in> Setting -> Configure..., Configure Toolbars, Configure Shortcuts
[12:25] <th3sn0wbr4in> :D
[12:25] <Jucato> th3sn0wbr4in: you should be in the main Kopete window
[12:25] <th3sn0wbr4in> nothin' somethin like plug-ins :D
[12:25] <Jucato> main kopete/contacts window, not  in a chat window
[12:27] <hangthedj> right click on the kopete icon then click on settings >> configure plugins >> history.  hmm can anybody tell me what language i've been programming in lately
[12:28] <hangthedj> << endl;
[12:28] <Raspberry> yeah I meant themes
[12:28] <Raspberry> i just did an emerald --replace
[12:28] <Raspberry> and that did it
[12:29] <hangthedj> Raspberry, you should do a search for fusion-icon and download and install it.
[12:29] <th3sn0wbr4in> owh.....
[12:29] <th3sn0wbr4in> oke, thanks
[12:29] <hangthedj> unfortunatly the gusty repositories don't hold that either.
[12:30] <th3sn0wbr4in> trial n' error <<-- still low on me :D
[12:30] <th3sn0wbr4in> sorry ;)
[12:31] <hangthedj> maybe this will work
[12:31] <hangthedj> #include <stdin>
[12:32] <Jucato> error: stdin not found
[12:32] <stdin> ...
[12:32] <th3sn0wbr4in> #include <stdin.h>
[12:32] <th3sn0wbr4in> :D
[12:33] <th3sn0wbr4in> #kubuntu - 347 nicks (0 ops)
[12:33] <th3sn0wbr4in> but, just some ppl are talkin here
[12:33] <th3sn0wbr4in> :D
[12:33] <hangthedj> that'll give an error unless stdin.h is in the directory your using. <include> = global <include.h> = local
[12:33] <stdin> hangthedj: other way round
[12:34] <stdin> hangthedj: <file> = global, "file" = local
[12:34] <Jucato> exactly :P
[12:34] <th3sn0wbr4in> ianis@th3sn0wbr4in:~$ sudo mount th3sn0wbr4in/Linux\ Distro/grep: Trailing backslash
[12:34] <th3sn0wbr4in> i type sudo mount th3sn0wbr4in/Linux\ Distro/(TAB)
[12:34] <hangthedj> but <file.h> will give error "file.h" will not
[12:35] <combo> how to uninstall msttfonts-something ? ?
[12:35] <hangthedj> at least for me.
[12:35] <th3sn0wbr4in> but, Trailing backslash
[12:35] <th3sn0wbr4in> :D
[12:35] <Jucato> ok, offtopic-break is over :P
[12:35] <Jucato> oh... ambiguous meaning heheh :)
[12:36] <Jucato> you caught me. where's the exception handler?
[12:36] <hangthedj> yay, Jucato, and stdin, 3:35am, going to sleep for me.
[12:36] <combo> can someone tell me how to remove MS fonts ??
[12:36] <Jucato> night stdin
[12:37] <stdin> Jucato: what? you're going to bed?
[12:37] <Jucato> er. sorry
[12:37] <stdin> hehe
[12:37] <Jucato> night hangthedj :P
[12:37] <Jucato> combo: um.. uninstall msttcorefonts
[12:37] <combo> Jucato: exatcly that - thx :)
[12:37] <Jucato> the way you installed them. apt-get or adept
[12:43] <Raspberry> how do I setup my modifier keys ... "Super" is set to the Windows (start) key which is bound to X server's mod4 key  -- but mod4 bound to the Windows key in KDE...
[12:46] <stdin> Raspberry: what's there to setup then? you just said "win = super = mod4 = win"
[12:50] <XONAUQA> good morning
[12:51] <sander_> morning...
[12:51] <XONAUQA> does anyone know if there is a FREE application to edit/modify pdf files?
[12:52] <XONAUQA> it would already be enough to put multiple pdf files into a single file
[12:53] <th3sn0wbr4in> LOL
[12:53] <th3sn0wbr4in> evening here...:D
[12:53] <XONAUQA> hehe.... yeah, a common problem in international chats ;)
[12:54] <th3sn0wbr4in> hahahaha,,,LOL :D
[12:54] <XONAUQA> has anyone a solution for my problem?
[12:55] <XONAUQA> i've been searching the web already but i only can find commercial software packages froom $49 up per license
[12:55] <stdin> have a look on sf.net
[12:57] <stdin> !de
[12:57] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:03] <Raspberry> stdin, i'm saying that's what it SHOULD equal
[01:17] <sk1llet> hello to the all!
[01:18] <d347hm4n> hi
[01:18] <sk1llet> i`m now install kubuntu
[01:18] <th3sn0wbr4in> halloe sk1llet
[01:18] <sk1llet> its cool)
[01:18] <sk1llet> i`m from russia!
[01:18] <sk1llet> maby some body too?
[01:19] <d347hm4n> when i start adept manager it say that another process is already open, how do i kill that process?
[01:19] <th3sn0wbr4in> i'm from indonesia
[01:19] <stdin> !aptfix | d347hm4n
[01:19] <ubotu> d347hm4n: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[01:19] <sk1llet> th3sn0wbr4in, cool)))
[01:20] <th3sn0wbr4in> :P
[01:20] <sk1llet> amaroke is bugged...
[01:20] <d347hm4n> thanks stdin
[01:22] <alper> hello
[01:22] <sk1llet> hello
[01:22] <neosix> hello
[01:22] <sk1llet> alper, where are you from...
[01:22] <sk1llet> ?
[01:23] <alper> from turkey
[01:23] <alper> you ?
[01:23] <sk1llet> russia
[01:24] <alper> i know litle russian
[01:24] <sk1llet> realy?
[01:24] <alper> kak dela?
[01:24] <neosix> Mother Russia, cool I'm from Serbia  :-)
[01:24] <sk1llet> horosho
[01:24] <sk1llet> neosix, klassno
[01:25] <sk1llet> a... cool)))
[01:25] <neosix>  :-)
[01:25] <alper> :)
[01:26] <d347hm4n> when i try and remove firefox through adept manager it say it has encountered an error
[01:26] <th3sn0wbr4in> what it said ?
[01:26] <d347hm4n> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36992/
[01:26] <alper> this is my firs instalation of ubuntu
[01:26] <d347hm4n> alper:me too :D
[01:27] <d347hm4n> i want to remove the 64bit version of firefox
[01:27] <d347hm4n> i have the 32bit installed
[01:27] <stdin> d347hm4n: try with apt, open konsole and put in "sudo apt-get remove firefox"
[01:27] <alper> did you tried from Add/remove
[01:28] <d347hm4n> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36993/
[01:29] <th3sn0wbr4in> yeah
[01:29] <th3sn0wbr4in> try to run via konsole
[01:29] <d347hm4n> the lastpaste bin is the konsole output
[01:29] <stdin> d347hm4n: ahh, you tried to install java in adept and didn't accept the licence... run "sudo apt-get -f install"
[01:30] <sk1llet_> what age all of you?
[01:30] <d347hm4n> stdin: thanks, you know your stuff man :D
[01:30] <d347hm4n> and now firefox has been removed
[01:30] <harsimran> hi
[01:31] <Lynoure> sk1llet_: hmm, ask on #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[01:31] <sk1llet_> thanx :)
[01:31] <d347hm4n> how do i find where i installed 32bit firefox
[01:32] <d347hm4n> search for firefox32.bin?
[01:32] <harsimran> Anybody knows a good and safe P2P for ubuntu....... :)
[01:33] <aaron> Bittorrent
[01:33] <stdin> !p2p
[01:33] <d347hm4n> bittorrent
[01:33] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[01:33] <aaron> !torrent
[01:33] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt), rTorrent (C++) -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[01:34] <pparker> hi here
[01:34] <aaron> hello
[01:34] <pparker> anyone get kde4b2 running with feisty ?
[01:35] <aaron> ooh Me ME
[01:35] <aaron> yea i do
[01:35] <pparker> for me startkde is missing
[01:35] <aaron> hmm
[01:35] <d347hm4n> is there a compiz guide anywhere?
[01:35] <stdin> pparker: read the instructions
[01:36] <aaron> !startkde
[01:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about startkde - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:36] <d347hm4n> !compiz
[01:36] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:36] <JuJuBee> Something is wrong with adept.  I just installed the vmware-server-kernet-modules and when I type vm<tab> all that shows as a comand is vmstat.  It's like vmware never installed.
[01:36] <pparker> i've already read it
[01:36] <pparker> beta1 was working
[01:36] <stdin> pparker: read the instructions, there's another package you need
[01:37] <stdin> JuJuBee: you didn't install vmware-server, just the kernel modules
[01:37] <JuJuBee> So what do I  install then?
[01:38] <pparker> stdin:thanks kdebase-workspace was missing
[01:38] <stdin> !vmware | JuJuBee
[01:38] <ubotu> JuJuBee: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[01:39] <sk1llet__> people from RUSSIA go on kubuntu-offtopic
[01:39] <stdin> !ru
[01:39] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[01:39] <JuJuBee> stdin : you versed in vmware ?
[01:39] <stdin> JuJuBee: not much, I hardly ever use it
[01:41] <aaron> i never use mine even though i paid $40 for it in 2005
[01:41] <JuJuBee> I installed it and after I installed nis and configured it, vmware-server stopped working.  SO I uninstalled and am trying to reinstall.  The first time all I did was to install vmware-server-kernel-modules and vmware-tools-kernel-modules.  THen I ran vmware-config.pl and all was happy. Now vmware-config.pl does not exist.
[01:42] <JuJuBee> I don't have much power in my computers and a super fast network, so I was going to install vmware-server on the workstations in my room and load the vm locally rather than using vmserver on a "server" and player on the clients.
[01:42] <stdin> JuJuBee: there is a .deb for it, use that instead
[01:43] <JuJuBee> From teh vmware site?
[01:43] <stdin> JuJuBee: no, read the link ubotu gave you
[01:43] <JuJuBee> I am reading now.
[01:44] <aaron> http://www.vmware.com/download/
[01:45] <aaron> JujuBee:Free server and player
[01:45] <stdin> player is in the repos
[01:47] <aaron> maybe this will help?
[01:48] <aaron> http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_feisty_fawn_vmware_server_howto
[01:48] <stdin> the instructions on the ubuntu help pages are to be more trusted
[01:56] <teguh> hi everyone
[02:00] <SoulChild> hey all ,... i can't use the vga boot parameter in grub ,... there are only modes avaialbe like 80x45 ,... any ideas ???
[02:07] <combinio> how to make my usb disc (mp3, system files: FAT) make write-able under linux ??
[02:07] <SoulChild__> HELP.The highest available framebuffer resouloution at boot is 80x45, if i set it to 1024x768 ,... i have a blank screen while booting ,.. can somebody help me please?
[02:08] <ScorpKing> !wireless
[02:08] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:08] <ScorpKing> :)
[02:10] <combinio> !usb
[02:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:10] <combinio> !fat
[02:10] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[02:10] <combinio> !crap
[02:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crap - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:10] <combinio> ** i mean 'crap!'
[02:10] <ScorpKing> combinio: having fun?
[02:11] <combinio> just trying to find solution
[02:11] <ScorpKing> for?
[02:11] <combinio> can't make my USB disc ( FAT ) writ-able
[02:11] <combinio> and can't save on it mp3 :/
[02:11] <ScorpKing> where is it mounted?
[02:12] <Eshat> Hey i have no frambuffer device like "/dev/fb0" any ideas ???
[02:12] <ubuntu> Does anyone know howto disable ipv6 in konqueror
[02:13] <combinio> ScorpKing: what u mean ?
[02:13] <ScorpKing> combinio: is it mounted now? run mount
[02:13] <combinio> it is mounted now cuz i can see what is saved on it
[02:14] <ScorpKing> combinio: mount will show you where it's mounted and what options it was mounted with
[02:14] <Eshat> How do i update my /dev/ folder ?
[02:14] <combinio> ScorpKing: eeeee......... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36994/
[02:15] <ScorpKing> ok
[02:15] <combinio> can't understand that :] 
[02:15] <combinio> oh i know - this USB is last
[02:15] <combinio>  /media/disk
[02:15] <ScorpKing> correct
[02:16] <combinio> and is this write-able ?
[02:16] <ScorpKing> adn it's mounted rw and with your user id which mean you can write to it
[02:17] <combinio> ScorpKing: so something must be wrong cuz i still can't write anything on my USB :|
[02:17] <ScorpKing> combinio: rw is for read/write and uid=1000 is for user with id 1000 can write to it which is you
[02:17] <ScorpKing> combinio: try to copy something with sudo
[02:18] <combinio> oups... i insert another USB disc and it looks it works :/
[02:18] <combinio> so it means my mp3 might be crashed.. but under winXP it works as well :] 
[02:18] <ScorpKing> combinio: some of them have a switch on the side to make it write protected
[02:19] <sk1llet> !ru
[02:19] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[02:19] <combinio> it hasn't cuz it is mp4 with a display
[02:19] <combinio> hmm......
[02:19] <ScorpKing> combinio: ls /media/disk/ will show the files
[02:19] <combinio> all files has been shown - but i can see them with Konqueror
[02:20] <ScorpKing> combinio: ls -l /media/disk/
[02:20] <combinio> probably i found the problem with that command
[02:20] <ScorpKing> :)
[02:21] <ScorpKing> not owned by you?
[02:21] <combinio> ScorpKing: cuz there is some EXTRA folder i made it long time ago... that is not shown in Konquror but in console... and it has no rights
[02:21] <combinio> if there are some rights like drwxr-xr-r etc. there is only '?------------?'
[02:21] <ScorpKing> combinio: sudo chown 1000:1000 -R /media/disk/
[02:21] <combinio> and it is red-colored
[02:22] <ScorpKing> run the command and see if it works in konqueror
[02:22] <combinio> it is written that it is 'Read-only file system'
[02:22] <combinio> didn't work
[02:22] <combinio> still can't see
[02:22] <_4strO> think there is an option in system settings to correct this
[02:22] <combinio> i'll try remove that folder
[02:22] <ScorpKing> even if u use sudo?
[02:23] <combinio> ScorpKing: even with sudo... and even can't delete that, cuz there is no such folder :[
[02:23] <combinio> this folder crashed my USB - have to remove it away
[02:23] <ScorpKing> :(
[02:23] <ScorpKing> ok then
[02:25] <ScorpKing> i have a wireless problem :( dmesg | tail "[ 1670.316000]  bcm43xx: Error: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available or load failed."
[02:26] <stdin> ScorpKing: see this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty
[02:26] <llutz> ScorpKing: you need something called bcm43xx-fwcutter to get the firmware extracted from the win-driver (afaik)
[02:26] <ScorpKing> thanks guys
[02:31] <ScorpKing> how do i recover if the installation failed? dpkg --something ?
[02:32] <stdin> ScorpKing: you mean: dpkg --configure -a ?
[02:32] <ScorpKing> something reconfigure
[02:33] <stdin> ScorpKing: or dpkg-reconfigure <package>
[02:33] <ScorpKing> thats it. thanks
[02:34] <ScorpKing> it keeps on saying host not found when downloading firmware.
[02:35] <ScorpKing> wget doesn't work either. back to google...
[02:35] <SoulChild> Hey all ,... i want a higher resoloution during boot ,.... how do i do this ,... is there another way than the vga parameter ???
[02:35] <ScorpKing> SoulChild: i think - man grub - will help
[02:36] <stdin> ScorpKing: you do have a net connection on that machine?
[02:36] <ScorpKing> 3G with vodacom
[02:37] <ScorpKing> i found something. will ask again if i get stuck.
[02:39] <sysko> hola
[02:39] <sysko> hola me lee alguien?
[02:39] <stdin> !es
[02:39] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:41] <ScorpKing> stdin and llutz thanks. wireless is working. :-D
[02:42] <BadRobot> is there any to try KDE4 out?
[02:42] <SlimeyPete> !kde4
[02:42] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at <http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule>. Beta 1 packages can be found at <http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php>.
[02:42] <BadRobot> if i install it via adapt manager will it work side by side kubuntu or it will replace it?
[02:43] <SlimeyPete> I hear it will work side by side but I haven't tried it myself
[02:43] <stdin> it won't overwrite kde3
[02:44] <BadRobot> ok
[02:44] <BadRobot> thx
[02:44] <BadRobot> i guess it is stable
[02:44] <stdin> no, it's not stable :p
[02:45] <BadRobot> if isn't stable it won't be beta then alpha
[02:45] <SlimeyPete> one man's beta is another man's alpha
[02:45] <SlimeyPete> the terms
[02:45] <SlimeyPete>  are pretty vague these days
[02:45] <stdin> no, beta's aren't stable, just more stable than alphas
[02:47] <ScorpKing> if i enable the wireless it overwrites my /etc/resolve.conf and the i have no dns. is there a way to disable that?
[02:48] <ScorpKing> then*
[02:49] <stdin> ScorpKing: edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf and put the dns-servers in the part with "prepend domain-name-servers" (and remove the '#' from the line)
[02:50] <ScorpKing> stdin: :) will do.
[02:51] <ScorpKing> stdin: so i cat just put my own dns in there seperated with , ?
[02:51] <stdin> ScorpKing: yeah, at least I think :p if commas don't work, try just spaces
[02:52] <ScorpKing> stdin: is there something in init.d/ that i must restart?
[02:53] <ScorpKing> lol
[02:53] <gabby> how do I get the panel to appear at the top and the bottom of the screen, just like in gnome?
[02:54] <stdin> ScorpKing: this should work (it'll disconnect you tho): sudo ifdown ethX ; sudo ifup ethX     (change ethX to your network interface name)
[02:54] <genii> Jucato: :)
[02:54] <Jucato> gabby: just add a new panel, position it at the top, and add whatever you want to it
[02:54] <ScorpKing> stdin: lets  see... brb
[02:55] <teguh> i want move my app to /var/www but raise warning "Access denied"  please help me....sorry .....
[02:55] <stdin> !sudo
[02:55] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:56] <DarkED> hi... i'm running ubuntu 7.04 but i've installed amarok. i'm having major issues here
[02:56] <teguh> i know it simple in windows but it look difficult to me in my new linux
[02:57] <DarkED> anytime i try to add a track from my collection to the playlist amarok essentially locks up
[02:57] <khaije1> what you talking bout teguh!?!
[02:57] <DarkED> it also tries to ask me if i want to install mp3 support but the window is glitched and there's no button
[02:57] <gabby> Jucato: ahh..... i see!
[02:58] <stdin> DarkED: try installing mp3 support in adept/synaptic, install the package libxine1-ffmpeg and restart amarok
[02:59] <khaije1> DarkED: did you try libxine1-plugins ?
[02:59] <teguh> he he he  so i want move my php file to /var/www but i can't
[02:59] <DarkED> stdin, doing now, thanks
[02:59] <DarkED> khaije1, not yet :)
[03:00] <teguh> khaije1 please help me
[03:00] <teguh> i want run my php doc
[03:00] <teguh> but i don't know how
[03:00] <ScorpKing> !apache
[03:00] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[03:00] <khaije1> teguh: i might not be able to, are you talking about a partic program?
[03:00] <DarkED> stdin, yep, that seems to have worked, thanks a bunch
[03:01] <DarkED> also, one more question
[03:01] <stdin> DarkED: :)
[03:01] <DarkED> half my albums have the same icon
[03:01] <DarkED> how can i fix that
[03:01] <rihards> Umm guys, can i  install LAMP on a Desktop CD isntalled Ubuntu ( 7.04 Fewy )?
[03:01] <SoulChild> this is strange ,... my video card does not work with the vesa driver anymore ,.. could this be the reason why i can#t change my resouloution with the vga boot parameter in grub ???
[03:01] <sPiTeFuLL> Umm guys, can i  install LAMP on a Desktop CD isntalled Ubuntu ( 7.04 Fewy )?
[03:01] <DarkED> eh, and going into cover manager also locks amarok =/
[03:02] <DarkED> man what is going on
[03:02] <stdin> !lamp | sPiTeFuLL
[03:02] <ubotu> sPiTeFuLL: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[03:03] <khaije1> teguh: what happened to ya buddy?
[03:03] <teguh> how to run my application use Php doc....so ...in window im just put in c:\inetpub\wwwroot\(use IIS) but how in my kubuntu (Use Apache)
[03:03] <teguh> im totaly blind in LINUX
[03:04] <sPiTeFuLL> teguh not so bad
[03:04] <sPiTeFuLL> im using it for about 3days :D
[03:04] <d347hm4n> just needs getting used too teguh
[03:05] <teguh> im put in /var/www not work "access denied"
[03:05] <stdin> teguh: use sudo
[03:05] <stdin> teguh: it needs to be executable too
[03:06] <poison--> morning
[03:06] <DarkED> what would cause amarok to run unbearably slow?
[03:06] <DarkED> for example, cover manager loads my albums about 1% per minute
[03:06] <DarkED> there's only 3000 songs and only a few hundred albums, why would it take that long?
[03:06] <khaije1> ah, i'm glad you know stdin, having never played with apache i would have had to guess
[03:07] <teguh> how to use sudo he he he he he like this "sudo /var/www/"
[03:07] <stdin> khaije1: that's about the extent of my knowledge there
[03:07] <DarkED> also, it's not using more than 50% cpu for some reason
[03:08] <broc93> hi all
[03:08] <broc93> I'm new here, but I ahve a question
[03:08] <SlimeyPete> DarkED: dual-core?
[03:08] <pag> !ask | broc93
[03:08] <ubotu> broc93: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:09] <broc93> I want to install kubuntu, but I want to keep my windows xp on the hard disk. How can I do it?
[03:09] <DarkED> broc93, repartition your hard drive during the install, it's easy
[03:09] <sPiTeFuLL> Any1 Know how to isntall xWindows on Ubuntu Desktop :D] 
[03:09] <khaije1> teguh: did that do the trick?
[03:09] <omar> hi
[03:09] <DarkED> broc93, then kubuntu will automatically set up what's called a 'dual-boot' meaning you can select which OS to boot when you turn your system on
[03:10] <broc93> DarkED, ok, but will I lose my files? I have 4 partitions on the hard disk
[03:10] <poison--> no
[03:10] <broc93> but no one is empty
[03:10] <sPiTeFuLL> Any1 Know how to isntall xWindows on Ubuntu Desktop :D] 
[03:10] <DarkED> broc93, um, you'll have to delete at least one of them
[03:10] <Chousuke> sPiTeFuLL: it's installed by default
[03:10] <DarkED> broc93, and possibly two
[03:10] <stdin> sPiTeFuLL: you have it already
[03:10] <d347hm4n> broc: just make sure you have one empty partition
[03:11] <broc93> DarkED, So, I have to keep only two partitions? why?
[03:11] <sPiTeFuLL> stdin ?! i dont get it ?
[03:11] <d347hm4n> broc93: one for / and one for swap space
[03:11] <sPiTeFuLL> im realy using ubuntu for like 3 days :D already managed to make some progress :D
[03:11] <stdin> sPiTeFuLL: you see the desktop? that's X windows
[03:11] <sPiTeFuLL> ohh..damm i though an
[03:11] <DarkED> broc93, because you need a root partition and a swap partition for linux
[03:11] <sPiTeFuLL> windows emulator
[03:11] <SlimeyPete> broc93: Linux won't install onto your Windows partitions; it requires its own partitions.
[03:11] <Chousuke> sPiTeFuLL: windows emulator?
[03:12] <sPiTeFuLL> smthing like that
[03:12] <stdin> sPiTeFuLL: there's wine to run some apps
[03:12] <Chousuke> there's no such thing
[03:12] <broc93> DarkED, but can I keep my 4 partitions on the hard drive?
[03:12] <Chousuke> wine works for some apps though
[03:12] <DarkED> broc93, not the existing ones, no
[03:12] <sPiTeFuLL> stdin , ok what kinda...
[03:12] <stdin> sPiTeFuLL: or vmware to run windows in
[03:12] <Chousuke> but it's not easy to use, so be prepared to read some documentation
[03:12] <DarkED> broc93, chances are they are primary partitions, you can only have 4 primary partitions on any one drive
[03:12] <sPiTeFuLL> stdin do you know any good guide ?
[03:12] <stdin> !virtualizers | sPiTeFuLL
[03:12] <ubotu> sPiTeFuLL: There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[03:13] <stdin> sPiTeFuLL: pick one of those :p
[03:13] <DarkED> broc93, you need to delete one to make an extended partition, which you can make as many logical partitions in as you like
[03:13] <broc93> DarkED, how can I delete two partitions?
[03:13] <d347hm4n> !compiz
[03:13] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:13] <sPiTeFuLL> stdin but is it possible to run a game ?
[03:13] <poison--> im getting a error with smb while trying to axx a win share
[03:13] <DarkED> broc93, kubuntu's install has a partitioner
[03:13] <teguh> no ehm i want just run my php file so i can run in browser but i dont know how
[03:13] <Chousuke> sPiTeFuLL: wine runs some games
[03:13] <poison--> it says i need smbmnt installed
[03:13] <Chousuke> sPiTeFuLL: www.winehq.org
[03:13] <stdin> sPiTeFuLL: some games run in wine, yeah
[03:13] <sPiTeFuLL> Guys real thanx :)
[03:13] <teguh> im trying to put my file in /var/www/
[03:13] <broc93> DarkED, so, I need to empty two artitions and to erase them, then I install kubuntu, isn't it?
[03:13] <sPiTeFuLL> im getting anoyed to see films
[03:14] <sPiTeFuLL> * boored
[03:14] <sPiTeFuLL> !WINE
[03:14] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:14] <stdin> poison--: so install it
[03:14] <DarkED> broc93, yes, two is the minimum, your swap partition is the same as a windows virtual memory file so make it like 2x your ram
[03:14] <poison--> stdin, cant find the package... guess im too stupid
[03:14] <Chousuke> DarkED: 2x RAM is usually too much nowadays
[03:14] <stdin> poison--: smbfs
[03:14] <poison--> humm
[03:15] <broc93> DarkED, ok, thank you a lot!
[03:15] <poison--> apt should do it then
[03:15] <DarkED> broc93, ask Chousuke about your ram
[03:15] <Chousuke> depending on how much RAM broc93 has.
[03:15] <Chousuke> and whether it's a laptop or not
[03:15] <broc93> 784 MB or something like that
[03:15] <llutz> and depending if suspend-to-disk is wanted
[03:15] <Chousuke> hmm
[03:15] <DarkED> Chousuke, yeah, sorry, i have 512meg and i didnt think about his being higher :)
[03:15] <broc93> and I have a desktop pc, not a laptop
[03:16] <Chousuke> then I'd go with 1GB of swap I suppose. 512MB would probably be enough too, but at least 1 GB is more than enough :)
[03:16] <d347hm4n> the swap should be double you ram
[03:16] <Chousuke> nah
[03:16] <Chousuke> that's for machines with less than 512MB of RAM
[03:17] <ScorpKing> stdin: the wireless still kick me off the net but my dns servers are on top of the list in resolve.conf. anywhere else i should be looking?
[03:17] <Chousuke> with modern machines that generally have 1GB+, having double that for swap is just a waste of disk space.
[03:17] <AmyRose> Chousuke: But what if you have a 60+ GB hard drive?
[03:18] <Chousuke> AmyRose: well, it's still a waste of disk space :P
[03:18] <stdin> ScorpKing: so the dns server aren't going in resolv.conf?
[03:18] <Chousuke> and 60GB is small, I'd definitely not want to waste any of it :P
[03:18] <llutz> AmyRose: you always can add a temporary swapfile if needed
[03:18] <sPiTeFuLL> Chousuke: but if you have 500gb of space ?
[03:18] <ScorpKing> stdin: the one from the wireless is at the bottom of the list now.
[03:18] <Chousuke> sPiTeFuLL: well, then you can waste the space I suppose. :P
[03:19] <sPiTeFuLL> just bought for 110$ 500gb SATAII :)
[03:19] <stdin> ScorpKing: try changing "prepend" to "supersede"
[03:19] <poison--> seems i just had to allow sudo axx within
[03:19] <poison--> workin now
[03:19] <sPiTeFuLL> Chousuke: well but how to exactly use this swap ?
[03:19] <poison--> wooot
[03:19] <ScorpKing> stdin: ok
[03:19] <Chousuke> sPiTeFuLL: the OS uses it automatically when it's needed
[03:19] <sPiTeFuLL> hmm..
[03:19] <Chousuke> sPiTeFuLL: it's used when you're low on free RAM
[03:20] <sPiTeFuLL> but can i virtualy add more ram ?
[03:20] <sPiTeFuLL> liek on Win32 ?
[03:20] <Chousuke> swap is "virtual RAM"
[03:20] <Chousuke> so if you have more RAM -> less swap needed
[03:20] <sPiTeFuLL> ya but is there a cap to start taking ?
[03:20] <AmyRose> llutz: I guess so
[03:20] <Chousuke> cap?
[03:20] <sPiTeFuLL> ohh.. its pure automaticly ?
[03:20] <maverick> guys guys, can someone tell me why does K pepole say that Kopete is the best ?
[03:20] <maverick> or is the most likely to be used ?!
[03:20] <Chousuke> sPiTeFuLL: the OS takes care of it.
[03:21] <sPiTeFuLL> Chousuke: youre a life saver :D btw still trrying to get WINE ;D
[03:21] <llutz> !best
[03:21] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[03:21] <Chousuke> sPiTeFuLL: it tries to avoid swapping if possible, since swapping is slow.
[03:21] <maverick> llutz: i know
[03:21] <maverick> yet ppl say kopete is the best and i see that no...aMSN is the best
[03:21] <Chousuke> the best would be to have ~64GB of RAM so you just won't run out ;P
[03:21] <sPiTeFuLL> Lol :D
[03:21] <Jucato> maverick: so keep on using amsn if you think so
[03:21] <ScorpKing> stdin: i see supersede is next to domain names. should i replace prepend with it anyway?
[03:22] <sPiTeFuLL> then could but Quadr Core 3.8, Sata II 1TB of HDD and 2gb of ram ?! for home needs ?
[03:22] <sPiTeFuLL> :D
[03:22] <Chousuke> though I suppose in a few years there will be apps that will gobble that 64GB and ask for more
[03:22] <sPiTeFuLL> *buy
[03:22] <stdin> ScorpKing: yeah, supersede just behaves a bit differently
[03:22] <llutz> maverick: opinions  diverge
[03:22] <sPiTeFuLL> in my country this kinda pc costs ummm 500$
[03:22] <sPiTeFuLL> :D
[03:22] <ScorpKing> stdin: ok then
[03:22] <Chousuke> ignoring current scientific calculations software and whatever.
[03:23] <BadRobot> enlightenment
[03:23] <genii> sPiTeFuLL: The quad core is still listing over $1000 US$ so I dunno how the entire box with it could be < $500
[03:23] <llutz> duke nukem forever
[03:23] <sPiTeFuLL> genii believe me ;)
[03:23] <ScorpKing> stdin: the router is down now. will check later. thanks for the help. :)
[03:24] <sPiTeFuLL> 1$ = 0.40 LVL :)
[03:24] <sPiTeFuLL> or lesss. :D
[03:25] <sPiTeFuLL> Chousuke: well i have a question... about WINE...
[03:25] <llutz> genii: Q6600 (quad 2.4GHz) is about 320 USD
[03:25] <Chousuke> sPiTeFuLL: yes?
[03:25] <sPiTeFuLL> Chousuke: well in the WiKi
[03:25] <sPiTeFuLL> is said
[03:25] <sPiTeFuLL> terminal by running 'sudo apt-get update' to update APT's package information and then 'sudo apt-get install wine'.
[03:25] <genii> llutz: Ah, forgot about the lower end quads LOL I keep looging at the qx6850 as reference
[03:25] <genii> *looking
[03:25] <Chousuke> sPiTeFuLL: yes?
[03:25] <sPiTeFuLL> Chousuke: i wanted to ask what i need to after the isnatall is done ?
[03:26] <Chousuke> that's the tricky part
[03:26] <sPiTeFuLL> ok here it goes
[03:26] <sPiTeFuLL> :D
[03:26] <Chousuke> it depends on the app you want to run.
[03:26] <Chousuke> some apps are as easy as "wine app.exe"
[03:26] <Chousuke> but some need to be configured
[03:26] <Chousuke> and some just won't run at all :)
[03:27] <Chousuke> winehq.org has some info about that
[03:27] <sPiTeFuLL> Chousuke:  aight... but is there any %tage if CS1.6 could run on Ubuntu ?
[03:27] <sPiTeFuLL> :D
[03:27] <sPiTeFuLL> stupid question.. :D
[03:27] <Chousuke> you mean steam?
[03:27] <llutz> genii: about 875 ~ US$ 1160 in .de
[03:27] <Chousuke> I think it runs
[03:28] <sPiTeFuLL> Chousuke: OMG..  oo em Ge :D
[03:28] <bart_> Some programs have an icon in the K menu editor but I don' t see them in the menu How can I fix that?
[03:28] <sPiTeFuLL> im gona pee :D
[03:28] <Chousuke> but you'll have to see winehq.org for details
[03:28] <Jucato> sPiTeFuLL: http://appdb.winehq.org you can check there
[03:28] <sPiTeFuLL> thx.. guys.. yer the best.. :D
[03:28] <sPiTeFuLL> :* luw ya all  ill be soon back..
[03:28] <genii> llutz: Here in Canada the qx6850 is about $1300, no OEM available yet but will list likely around $900 CDN
[03:29] <sPiTeFuLL> pf.. :D ganii :D
[03:29] <sPiTeFuLL> *genii 1300$ ?
[03:29] <genii> sPiTeFuLL: Yeah, Canadian $
[03:29] <bart_> Some programs have an icon in the K menu editor but I don' t see them in the menu How can I fix that?
[03:30] <kdxx> can i redefine $1 in a script? like $1=hd ?
[03:31] <eagles0513875> !aptfix
[03:31] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[03:31] <eagles0513875> !aptfix
[03:31] <bart_> ?
[03:35] <sPiTeFuLL> Chousuke:  question, is there a MountingProgramm for Ubuntu or Wine does this trcik too ?
[03:35] <sPiTeFuLL> like daemon tools for windows
[03:35] <SlimeyPete> !iso
[03:35] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[03:35] <mimi> i have a question 4 u
[03:35] <SlimeyPete> sPiTeFuLL: ^^
[03:35] <mimi> who can help me??
[03:35] <SlimeyPete> !ask | mimi
[03:35] <ubotu> mimi: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:36] <mimi> i just downloded a deb package from net
[03:36] <mimi> tell me how do i install it
[03:36] <mimi> ??
[03:36] <bart_> Nobody knows how to get the icons visible
[03:36] <mimi> pls
[03:37] <mimi> please
[03:37] <SlimeyPete> run "sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb" in a terminal, mimi (make sure you are in the right directory first)
[03:37] <mimi> thanks
[03:37] <mimi> 10x
[03:37] <mimi> k
[03:37] <pag> !deb | mimi
[03:37] <ubotu> mimi: deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[03:37] <SlimeyPete> yeah, or do that ;)
[03:44] <FSHero> Hi all; if I have a computer, B, which exports Windows (Samba) shares, then computer A running Kubuntu can access these shares by going to Konqueror, then clicking "Samba shares". Correct?
[03:45] <SMP_ca> hi?
[03:46] <Iradigalesc> Don't say hi? Simply ask your problem SMP_ca! :)
[03:46] <poison--> hero, yes
[03:47] <ScorpKing>  FSHero: or you could just in konquoror type smb://ip.of.windows.machine/
[03:47] <FSHero> poison--: thx. So... I was wondering if there was a similar way of doing this with NFS?
[03:47] <FSHero> Because, although I know how to mount NFS shares, I think a graphical method would make it a little bit easier.
[03:48] <poison--> smb can do it
[03:48] <poison--> luv smb more than my wife
[03:48] <ScorpKing> shame on u. lol
[03:48] <poison--> lmao
[03:48] <poison--> crap, K3b just hanged on me opening MCE ISO
[03:48] <ScorpKing> there is also smb4k i think
[03:48] <poison--> crap
[03:49] <poison--> anyone using Linux MCE there
[03:49] <ksivaji> what is mce
[03:50] <poison--> Media Center
[03:50] <poison--> great stuff
[03:52] <SMP_ca> Hello, I have been traveling for a month and now that I am back home I cannot hear any sound
[03:52] <ksivaji> !alsa
[03:52] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:52] <poison--> did u check yer doctor
[03:53] <sPiTeFuLL> Where can i find this ?~/.wine/drive_c/
[03:53] <SMP_ca> the speaker icon in my taskbar has a red X on it and when I stand my mouse over it says: no mixer found
[03:53] <sPiTeFuLL> @ home/username/ ?
[03:53] <lnx> how i can make applications auto start in empty session ?
[03:53] <stdin> !autostart
[03:53] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[03:53] <ScorpKing> sPiTeFuLL: yes
[03:54] <stdin> sPiTeFuLL: ~/ means your homedir
[03:55] <sPiTeFuLL> stdin but i dont have .wine folder
[03:55] <sPiTeFuLL> ic ant see it. if even its there
[03:55] <lnx> stdin , i have installed kcontrol-autostart what now ?
[03:55] <sPiTeFuLL> or do i runa command  to make a drive_c ?
[03:55] <BluesKaj> SMP_ca,  sudo apt-get install kmix
[03:55] <stdin> sPiTeFuLL: it's made when you run any apps in wine or winecfg
[03:56] <sPiTeFuLL> ok for steaminstall
[03:56] <sPiTeFuLL> i need tahoma.ttf
[03:56] <sPiTeFuLL> but.. its said ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/fonts
[03:56] <stdin> lnx: open kcontrol, press Alt-F2 and put in kcontrol
[03:56] <sPiTeFuLL> ot smthing like that.. but i cant  find anything =[
[03:56] <SMP_ca> no, I have kmix installed
[03:57] <sPiTeFuLL> any thoughts ?
[03:57] <stdin> sPiTeFuLL: press Alt-F2 and put in wineconfig to make the wine dir
[03:57] <SMP_ca> if I click the speaker icon a KMix window asks me for a mixer but the list is empty
[03:57] <lnx> stdin , thanks ihave found
[03:58] <sPiTeFuLL> stdin umm..
[03:59] <ksivaji> stdin
[03:59] <ksivaji> sivaji@sivaji-desktop:~$ free -m
[03:59] <ksivaji>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[03:59] <ksivaji> Mem:           440        428         11          0         78        151
[03:59] <stdin> !paste | ksivaji
[03:59] <ubotu> ksivaji: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:59] <lnx> how i can change default kubuntu console font color ?
[03:59] <BluesKaj> SMP_ca, check for your soundcard , lspci | grep audio
[03:59] <ksivaji> i have 512Mb ram but it show only 440 why ?
[03:59] <ksivaji> ok
[03:59] <sPiTeFuLL> stdin :  press Alt-F2 and put in wineconfig to make the wine dir
[03:59] <sPiTeFuLL> explain this to me
[03:59] <stdin> ksivaji: because the rest is taken by the kernel
[03:59] <sPiTeFuLL> ...   using 4first time wine =[
[04:00] <stdin> sPiTeFuLL: press Alt-F2 and put in wineconfig      that will make the wine dir
[04:00] <sPiTeFuLL> ohh. :D
[04:00] <sPiTeFuLL> still noobing arround =] 
[04:00] <ksivaji> stdin how
[04:00] <stdin> ksivaji: how what?
[04:00] <ksivaji> stdin how much ram you have and how much it show for you ?
[04:01] <ScorpKing> stdin: lol.
[04:01] <sPiTeFuLL> stdin : Cant find the path to (Nevar atvrt atraans vietu) 'file:///wineconfig'
[04:02] <sPiTeFuLL> stdin im running under ubntu dekstop btw ;)
[04:02] <ScorpKing> sPiTeFuLL: do you have wine installed?
[04:02] <sPiTeFuLL> ya...
[04:02] <stdin> sPiTeFuLL: then open a terminal and run winecfg
[04:03] <ScorpKing> ksivaji: open konsole and run top
[04:03] <ilde> hola???
[04:03] <sPiTeFuLL> stdin : wine: creating configuration directory '/home/rihards/.wine'... :)
[04:04] <ilde> join #jerez
[04:04] <PhinnFort> why?
[04:04] <ScorpKing> haha
[04:04] <stdin> !spam | ilde
[04:04] <ubotu> ilde: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[04:04] <stdin> !es | ilde
[04:04] <ubotu> ilde: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:05] <ksivaji> ScorpKing ya
[04:05] <ilde> hi
[04:05] <sPiTeFuLL> !Language
[04:05] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:05] <sPiTeFuLL> =] 
[04:05] <ilde> where are you all came from?
[04:05] <ScorpKing> ksivaji: it will show how much you have and what's free
[04:05] <stdin> !ot
[04:05] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[04:06] <ksivaji> ScorpKing http://pastebin.com/d15d71dce
[04:06] <ScorpKing> ok
[04:07] <ksivaji> stdin have a look
[04:07] <ilde> anyone alive?
[04:08] <ScorpKing> i see one zombie process there
[04:08] <stdin> ksivaji: that's only if you have an on-board graphics
[04:08] <ksivaji> stdin on-board graphics means
[04:08] <stdin> ksivaji: built-in to the motherboard, not PCI or AGP
[04:09] <BluesKaj> !ask | ilde
[04:09] <ubotu> ilde: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:09] <ksivaji> stdin i dont know what you are saying ? what is built-in to the motherboard
[04:10] <ScorpKing> hi BluesKaj
[04:10] <BluesKaj> hi ScorpKing
[04:10] <ScorpKing> welcome back
[04:10] <stdin> ksivaji: if it's not a separate card, it's a chip on the motherboard
[04:10] <BluesKaj> thx ,...it's morning here
[04:10] <ScorpKing> stdin: should there not be more free ram on that box?
[04:11] <ksivaji> ScorpKing i have 512 Mb RAM
[04:12] <stdin> ScorpKing, ksivaji: there is 199MB free
[04:12] <stdin> ScorpKing, ksivaji: actually 210MB
[04:12] <ksivaji>     stdin     only 11 MB free    http://pastebin.com/d15d71dce
[04:13] <ScorpKing> ksivaji: check in the bios for shared ram to the graphics card. maybe that's where the rest it.
[04:13] <stdin> ksivaji: that's not taking in to account cached and buffers, you have 210MB usable RAM left
[04:14] <ScorpKing> i'm being educated. :D lol
[04:14] <ksivaji> ScorpKing stdin can i change that
[04:14] <hydrogen> yea
[04:14] <hydrogen> add more ram
[04:14] <hydrogen> :)
[04:14] <hydrogen> or take some away
[04:15] <ScorpKing> lol
[04:15] <ksivaji> hydrogen poor idea
[04:15] <ksivaji> :P
[04:15] <ScorpKing> then you better add some.lol
[04:15] <BluesKaj> ksivaji, has 151m cached
[04:16] <ksivaji> BluesKaj  so
[04:16] <mimi> how can i update my kubuntu depository?
[04:16] <ScorpKing> ksivaji: it looks like you have about 64MB shared in your BIOS
[04:16] <BluesKaj> it's available
[04:16] <FSHero> poison-- or anyone else: so, despite NFS being Unix's native network file sharing system, I should use NFS?
[04:17] <FSHero> sorry, I should use SMB?
[04:17] <ksivaji> ScorpKing 72Mb
[04:17] <ksivaji> 512 - 440 =72
[04:17] <stdin> mimi: depository?
[04:17] <mimi> who can send me a msg with an /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:17] <mimi> i tried to install some packages
[04:17] <ksivaji> !source-o-matic
[04:17] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:18] <mimi> and not woked
[04:18] <stdin> !repos
[04:18] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:18] <ScorpKing> ksivaji: that's not standard on mainboards. it will be 64MB. go check
[04:18] <ksivaji> ok i will check and come
[04:20] <BluesKaj> FSHero, smb works ok ...if you know how to setup NFS , go ahead
[04:20] <mimi> 10x any way
[04:21] <ScorpKing> FSHero: i suggest NFS if it's possible.
[04:21] <FSHero> BluesKaj: thanks. I know that it seems to be easier to access SMB shares, as well as to set it up (in Kubuntu). It is easy to set up NFS shares too, but accessing them requires some command-line mounting.
[04:24] <BluesKaj> FSHero, yes, and I've never attempted NFS , altho I considered it . It depends on your situation ...I'm on a home network and wife and I are the only users so other users and security isn't a biggie since we're behind arouter
[04:24] <sPiTeFuLL> How to Re-Isntall Wine ?
[04:25] <BluesKaj> <---no kids at home
[04:26] <stdin> sPiTeFuLL: just delete the ~/.wine directory and start again
[04:26] <BluesKaj> genii, ?
[04:27] <sPiTeFuLL> stdin hwo to acces throught wine to c:/program files/ ?
[04:27] <genii> BluesKaj ?
[04:27] <BluesKaj> FSHero, genii and some other heavy hitters here are the office network experts
[04:27] <stdin> sPiTeFuLL: run like: wine "c:/program files/....."
[04:28] <BluesKaj> genii, FSHero has needs an opinion of samb vs NFS
[04:28] <BluesKaj> errsmb
[04:29] <genii> FSHero: If you have a mixed OS network then samba is the best option. If you are on a linux/unix only network nfs is preferred
[04:30] <Daisuke_Laptop> if you have the time to download Windows Services For Unix, then NFS is the best option no matter what your network makeup
[04:30] <PhinnFort> FSHero: or if you won't bother with it, just use OpenSSH on the server, and FISH on the clients
[04:30] <PhinnFort> (in kde, fish://username@server)
[04:31] <PhinnFort> then you don't need another service running on the server -> better security
[04:31] <genii> Daisuke_Laptop: Unfortunately I've found the NFS client for windows has been extremely buggy to set up. However this is only my personal experience.
[04:31] <sPiTeFuLL> stdin
[04:31] <sPiTeFuLL> [17:26]  <stdin> sPiTeFuLL: just delete the ~/.wine directory and start again
[04:31] <sPiTeFuLL> hwo to do that ?
[04:32] <Daisuke_Laptop> i found it to be pretty smooth, myself, and it's much smoother than samba was.  samba gave me such a headache that i eventually went out looking for *any* way to read nfs shares on windows.
[04:32] <stdin> sPiTeFuLL: in konqueror go to View > Show Hidden Files, then you can see it. or in a terminal "rm -r ~/.wine"
[04:32] <FSHero> genii: thanks. I do use a mixed OS network. I was just wondering, as I might make all my computers use Kubntu.
[04:33] <FSHero> Problem with NFS: you have to match the UID on the client with the UID on the server, or something similar, right?
[04:33] <Daisuke_Laptop> if they all go to kubuntu, then nfs is a great option
[04:34] <genii> FSHero: There are many options you can set for the NFS.
[04:34] <Daisuke_Laptop> FSHero: solution, grab the passwd and groups file (delete sensitive data, the client just needs usernames/groupnames)
[04:35] <FSHero> Daisuke_Laptop: forgive me for my ignorance... By "grab", you mean take the passwd and groups files from the server and put them on the client?
[04:35] <FSHero> Also: I read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo?highlight=%28NFS%29
[04:35] <Daisuke_Laptop> FSHero: portions of them , yes
[04:35] <FSHero> Which helped. I have got file-sharing functionality, but I have only ever used one user to log on (i.e. myself).
[04:36] <FSHero> By "log on", I mean, log on as a client to access the server.
[04:36] <FSHero> Daisuke_Laptop: so, is it okay to manually change the UIDs on each client computer to match the UIDs on each server?
[04:37] <Daisuke_Laptop> each server i don't know, i only have one
[04:37] <aguitel> anyone work with Lexmark x1100 series ?
[04:37] <FSHero> e.g. my_username: 1001, my_brother: 1002, my_sister: 1003, consistent on all clients and servers, for example?
[04:37] <Daisuke_Laptop> and i'm talking about connecting a windows computer to an nfs share
[04:37] <FSHero> (I want share three computers' files with each other.)
[04:37] <bjwebb> how do i restart kdm?
[04:37] <Daisuke_Laptop> for most things NFS, i'm useless
[04:38] <FSHero> bjwebb: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[04:38] <FSHero> bjwebb: I think
[04:38] <bjwebb> thanx
[04:38] <Daisuke_Laptop> bjwebb: either sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[04:38] <Daisuke_Laptop> or ctrl+alt+backspace
[04:38] <bjwebb> hmm it froze though
[04:38] <genii> FSHero: For something like that I would normally have a common directory on one system that is shared to the other 2 or 3 boxes. Where their nfs login to the server is mapped to a common name in the /etc/exports file
[04:38] <bjwebb> Daisuke_Laptop: would that work from cli?
[04:39] <Daisuke_Laptop> that would work from within x
[04:39] <bjwebb> the ctrl+alt+backspace ?
[04:39] <sPiTeFuLL> stdin ok i see teh hidden files, but i cant Delete .wine foldes, Permission Denied
[04:40] <FSHero> genii: True. But I was hoping for a kind-of ad-hoc setup, so that it is more like a Windows home network (gasp!).
[04:40] <sPiTeFuLL> im loged in as user x and .wine is under  Ownership  of Root
[04:40] <sPiTeFuLL> what to do /
[04:40] <sPiTeFuLL> ?
[04:40] <FSHero> i mean, I do have a Netgear DG834 router (I don't know if it is secure or not though).
[04:40] <stdin> sPiTeFuLL: go in to a terminal type in "sudo rm -r ~/wine"
[04:40] <FSHero> I might stick to SMB.
[04:41] <FSHero> stdin: don't you mean...:
[04:41] <sPiTeFuLL> stdin allrighty :)
[04:41] <FSHero> sudo rm -r /home/x/wine?
[04:41] <stdin> FSHero: nope, ~ = $HOME
[04:42] <stdin> sPiTeFuLL: it's "sudo rm -r ~/.wine" actually, forgot the '.'
[04:43] <FSHero> stdin: ok. I thought that ~ would refer to /root when logged in as root.
[04:43] <FSHero> ... but sudo doesn't use a root user.
[04:43] <FSHero> I'll stop thinking now. :P
[04:44] <hydrogen> well
[04:44] <stdin> FSHero: try "sudo echo $USER" :)
[04:44] <hydrogen> yea
[04:44] <genii> work, AFK a few minutes
[04:44] <hydrogen> and thats why running gui apps under sudo can mess things up
[04:44] <hydrogen> because it uses your env
[04:44] <FSHero> hydrogen: o i c
[04:44] <FSHero> (kind-of)
[04:45] <FSHero> hydrogen: out of interest, what does kdesu do differently to sudo? And why would a GUI app mess up your environment?
[04:45] <ScorpKing> FSHero: sorry, i've been away. i'm using NFS if you need some help..
[04:47] <FSHero> ScorpKing: Yeah, I was wondering... must I match the UID on my client to the UID of the server? Should I do that manually (K-menu --> System Settings --> User management)
[04:48] <FSHero> (by UID on server, I mean that say I use UID 1001 on the client. the files I want to access on the server must be owned by 1001 on the server.)
[04:49] <ScorpKing> FSHero: i use dnsmasq to give my box the same ip everytime and then set the nfs-server to only export to my ip but i'm sure there is another way.
[04:49] <froud> can anyone recomend a GSM modem that they have had success with on (k)ubuntu
[04:50] <ScorpKing> froud: i'm using a vodafone E220 usb modem
[04:50] <froud> ScorpKing: I am looking for an internal PCI solution
[04:51] <ScorpKing> FSHero: it will depend on the ownership of the files on the server. all the files on the server is owned by me but i also have a guest smb account on it that's read-only.
[04:51] <jorgy> hey folks, does anyone have any experience in compiling kopete svn ?
[04:51] <FSHero> ScorpKing: that sounds like a good idea! use IP addresses. Is there some documentation?
[04:52] <jorgy> or does anyone know a kubuntu repository for the latest kopete build?
[04:52] <ScorpKing> FSHero: i can pastebin my exportfs file for you.
[04:54] <ScorpKing> FSHero: the dhcp on my server will kick me off the net. i'll be back soon. :) still have to fix that.
[04:54] <froud> Has anyone tried the Teltonika T-ModemPCI GSM/GPRS/SMS PCI-bus Modem
[04:55] <froud> Already has Linux drivers
[04:56] <ScorpKing> froud: sudo wvdialconf - it will setup /etc/wvdail.conf for you
[04:56] <froud> ScorpKing: yah my question is not the setup, it's the hardware, I need hardware that is reliable these boxes must be shipped of into Africa
[04:57] <froud> ScorpKing: no time to go into the bush to change a PCI card
[04:57] <ScorpKing> i see. lol
[04:57] <froud> and the fewer dangle bits the better
[04:57] <hcbox> Is it possible to use two computers to make a cluster under ubuntu (hd compression) ?
[04:59] <BluesKaj> jorgy, kopete already is part of kubuntu-desktop as a default IM client, therefore it's in the repos , but if you must here the dev page : http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper-backports/kde/kopete-dev
[05:00] <jorgy> thanks BluesKaj, i was jst trying to install the latest version (0.12.6) the available one is (still) 0.12.5
[05:01] <BluesKaj> it's kinda old , jorgy ...i shouldna jumped the gun there
[05:02] <jorgy> BluesKaj: it's cool :) appreciate any response. i'm sudo apt-getting all kopete dependencies and hopefully it'll compile then.
[05:03] <JuJuBee> Anybody know if there is a problem running vmware-server with nis?
[05:03] <FSHero> d'oh, g2g
[05:03] <FSHero> thanks everyone for the help!
[05:05] <merle> Ich such einen netten JUNGEN, mit dem man privat gut chatten kann??? Bin auch m...^^
[05:05] <Jucato> !de | merle
[05:05] <ubotu> merle: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:05] <BluesKaj> !de | merle
[05:06] <ScorpKing> and i'm back. :)
[05:06] <linenoise> howdy chan.  How do you maximize a window in kubuntu using the keyboard? Under windows it's windows up (or it is on mine).
[05:06] <BluesKaj> Jucato, don't think that german person was here for kubuntu advice
[05:06] <PhinnFort> linenoise: you can set it yourself
[05:06] <PhinnFort> linenoise: I have it mapped to ctrl+space
[05:06] <stdin> BluesKaj: google translate tells me that too :p
[05:06] <linenoise> where do I set it myself?
[05:06] <PhinnFort> linenoise: alt+f2, "kcontrol"
[05:07] <Jucato> BluesKaj:  don't really know. don't really care. let the guys at -de handle that :P
[05:07] <PhinnFort> search for shortcut
[05:07] <linenoise> PhinnFort: wow.  Thanks :)
[05:07] <PhinnFort> np;)
[05:08] <ScorpKing> what happend to FSHero?
[05:08] <merle> Sind deutsche Jungs hier?
[05:08] <PhinnFort> linenoise: there's voice control too somewhere
[05:08] <PhinnFort> linenoise: under input actions
[05:08] <linenoise> PhinnFort: hahaha, one day at a time
[05:08] <PhinnFort> :P
[05:09] <llutz> merle: du bist hier falsch, such dir n partner-chat. dies ist ein support-kanal fr eine Linux-Distribution.
[05:09] <stdin> !de | merle
[05:09] <ubotu> merle: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:09] <sPiTeFuLL> !permissions
[05:09] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[05:10] <BluesKaj> no young germans here , except llutz ....I'm just an old grumpy canuck :)
[05:10] <llutz> BluesKaj: me, young? not really
[05:11] <BluesKaj> well younger, then :)
[05:12] <llutz> BluesKaj: too old to die young :)
[05:12] <BluesKaj> :)
[05:13] <kelvie_> Anyone know how to fix the cursor in dual-head mode with FGLRX?
[05:14] <kelvie_> it shows up as a large square blob on the second screen
[05:17] <BluesKaj> trying to find a capslock defeat setting
[05:19] <llutz> BluesKaj: echo "clear Lock" >>~/.Xmodmap
[05:19] <ScorpKing> FSHero: i'm back
[05:20] <ScorpKing> FSHero: see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37009/
[05:20] <FSHero> ScorpKing: hi again :)
[05:22] <ScorpKing> FSHero: only a computer with that ip can nfs-mount the /home/guest/ direcory as another example.
[05:23] <ScorpKing> FSHero: man exports will give you a good idea of all the options.
[05:24] <FSHero> ScorpKing: mine looks similar: (see next link)
[05:24] <FSHero> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37010/
[05:24] <ch40s> whats a good image upload website i can get an account with? (free)
[05:25] <ScorpKing> FSHero: that will do.
[05:26] <FSHero> Okay, I'll get to work on it :)
[05:26] <SlimeyPete> genii: what happened last was that you made coffee.
[05:27] <powr> wich packages do i need to have instaled in feitsy 7 to be able to install from source?
[05:27] <genii> SlimeyPete: Heh :) True. But something about nfs also I think. Tho ScorpKing and FSHero semed to have it worked out etc
[05:28] <ScorpKing> FSHero: this is from my fstab - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37011/
[05:28] <ScorpKing> FSHero: make sure you have portmap installed. if not it will take forever to mount.
[05:29] <powr> is anybody here who can help me?
[05:29] <FSHero> ScorpKing: yeah, I think i installed portmap. I followed the instructions on the Ubuntu community help page
[05:29] <ScorpKing> FSHero: well, then ur set. :) have fun.
[05:30] <FSHero> I wish there was a more user-friendly way of adding the lines to fstab. I mean, what if a newbie rushes to install Ubuntu on two of his/her PCs...
[05:30] <FSHero> ... then stumbles on one of Linux's greatest strengths: networking?
[05:32] <ScorpKing> linux networking sure is powerfull. :)
[05:36] <PhinnFort> !java
[05:36] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[05:37] <FSHero> Kind-of off topic... but because now Java is under the GPL, will Java be included in Main/Universe of Gutsy Gibbon / the release-after-Gutsy?
[05:37] <fulat2k> are the kde4 b2 packages ready for feisty?
[05:37] <PhinnFort> FSHero: I thought sun even had a deal with canonical regarding that?
[05:37] <PhinnFort> fulat2k: I think so
[05:37] <FSHero> Cool!
[05:38] <fulat2k> PhinnFort: strange.. i tried updating it on both fiesty and gutsy.  the entire desktop looks broken.  no taskbase, k bar, etc.
[05:39] <PhinnFort> fulat2k: it's broken;)
[05:39] <fulat2k> PhinnFort: doh :P
[05:39] <fulat2k> PhinnFort: anywhere i can check on its status?
[05:39] <PhinnFort> fulat2k: #kde
[05:40] <fulat2k> PhinnFort: cool.  will chk it out. thx
[05:40] <fulat2k> PhinnFort: i can see u're asking the same question i wanted to :)
[05:41] <henrik_> hey gauys, anyone can help a complete kubuntu newbie with a problem concerning adept/manager/installer dont wanting to start?
[05:41] <PhinnFort> ;)
[05:41] <henrik_> guys*
[05:41] <PhinnFort> !adeptfix  | henrik_
[05:41] <ubotu> henrik_: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[05:44] <henrik_> PhinnFort: Thanks a lot!
[05:44] <PhinnFort> you're welcome
[05:57] <davidubi> hi everyone
[05:57] <davidubi> need help getting KDE4 beta 2 to run in my kubuntu installation
[05:57] <davidubi> followed the kubuntu website instrutions
[05:58] <davidubi> but the entry KDE4 does not appear in the KDM options menu
[06:01] <davidubi> To run it as a full session copy /usr/lib/kde4/share/apps/kdm/sessions/kde.desktop to /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop,
[06:01] <davidubi> Ok this is what i did wrong
[06:01] <davidubi> I did copy  /usr/lib/kde4/share/apps/kdm/sessions/kde.desktop
[06:01] <davidubi> to /usr/lib/kde4/share/apps/kdm/sessions/kde4.desktop
[06:02] <davidubi> when I should have carefully read the instructions and copy it to:
[06:02] <davidubi> /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop,
[06:02] <davidubi> im going to try it right now
[06:02] <ksivaji> davidubi #ubuntu
[06:03] <Lacrymology> I have the feeling that kde is running in a lower resolution that my computer supports, where can I check this?
[06:04] <Jucato> System Settings -> Monitor & Display
[06:05] <JuJuBee> I made some changes to my iptables using webmin.  I started with a shell script to set  it up initially.  How can I export the current settings as a script that can be run from cli?
[06:05] <Lacrymology> hmm
[06:05] <poison--> any idea why i cant axx my USB NTFS HDD
[06:05] <Lacrymology> the resolution's fine
[06:05] <poison--> cant mount it
[06:05] <Jucato> !ntfs
[06:05] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:06] <Lacrymology> but it says "graphics card: vesa. Driver: vesa"
[06:06] <Lacrymology> that kinda doesn't sound good
[06:06] <poison--> ty
[06:06] <Jucato> it's the generic fee software video driver
[06:07] <llutz> JuJuBee: iptables-save/restore
[06:08] <JuJuBee> Thanks llutz.
[06:08] <ksivaji> is there any way to find my mother mode name
[06:09] <ksivaji> board*
[06:09] <llutz> ksivaji: open the case, look
[06:09] <ksivaji> llutz   through  OS
[06:10] <tioan> hi
[06:11] <llutz> ksivaji: try: sudo dmidecode |grep -A 6 "Base Board"
[06:12] <poison--> jucato, didnt work
[06:12] <poison--> its an external usb 120GB disk
[06:12] <poison--> it appears here, but cant axx it
[06:18] <Malik_____> hi ppl.. i re installed windows after it crashed and now grub is gone and i cant start into linux..any suggestions?
[06:18] <llutz> !grub
[06:18] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:24] <tes_> hi all
[06:24] <clars> hi
[06:25] <tes_> how can i return console's language to english? it's in russian cuz i installed my system in this language :(
[06:25] <jhutchins> tes_: There may be a changer in the system tray.
[06:26] <tes_> no, not layout
[06:26] <tes_> messages' language
[06:26] <tes_> inside the shell
[06:26] <tes_> they are translated to russian O_o
[06:27] <jhutchins> tes_: I know i can enable a language/codepage switcher for my system tray, let me see what it's called.
[06:28] <jhutchins> Must be something configured from kdesu kcontrol.
[06:28] <jhutchins> Oh, I'm on a slightly different distro too.  I would say just go through the control panel menus.
[06:28] <stdin> jhutchins: from system settings > regional & language
[06:29] <Fyodor> hello....how can I initialize iptables if It'snt at /etc/init.d/ ?
[06:29] <stdin> !firewall | Fyodor
[06:29] <ubotu> Fyodor: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[06:30] <gerath> anyone know how do i put icon or short cuts on to the desk top like my home directory
[06:31] <Fyodor> stdin ubotu Thanks very much
[06:31] <stdin> gerath: right click the desktop > New > Link to URL
[06:31] <Jucato> gerath: right-click -> Create New -> Folder?
[06:31] <Jucato> er sorry
[06:31] <Jucato> follow stdin
[06:32] <gerath> i have a duo boot with win XP how do i see my windows directory or Cd/dvd to put on my desktop
[06:34] <charlie_> gerath: navigate to /media. whats there
[06:34] <gerath> ok thanks will do
[06:36] <BluesKaj> !ntfs | gerath
[06:36] <ubotu> gerath: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:38] <maverick> i remove katpult 3.1 and then install katapult 3.2 from source
[06:38] <maverick> when i check the version i find it 3.1 again
[06:38] <maverick> whta the hell/
[06:38] <maverick> ?
[06:52] <snowdonkey> Hey guys, I'm having trouble runnnig Compiz for the first time in Feisty.  I did "sudo apt-get install compiz", "sudo apt-get install metacity" and "gtk-clearlooks-gperfection2-theme".  I replaced kwin with metacity with "metacity --replace".  when I try typing "compiz" I get the message "/usr/bin/compiz.real: Screen 0 on display ":0.0" already has a window manager; try using the --replace option to replace the current window
[06:53] <snowdonkey> Rather, I installed "gtk-clearlooks-gperfection2-theme" package
[06:54] <stdin> snowdonkey: do what it says, use "compiz --replace"
[06:57] <snowdonkey> stdin: Sorry, forgot to mention that when I type "compiz --replace" I get a message like: "no manageable screens found".  The window decorations disappear and the windows freeze up.  I can't type anything and I have to restart X server.
[06:58] <stdin> snowdonkey: hmm, try asking in #ubuntu-effects they know more than me
[06:59] <snowdonkey> stdin: Ok, thanks!
[07:02] <BluesKaj> I'd like to implement a command to defeat the caps lock , so far it works only for the session but i'd like to make it permanent ,similar to the numbers-lock auto- turn-on in system settings. Where would i add the command or one that has the same function ?
[07:03] <llutz> BluesKaj: systemwide xmodmap
[07:03] <BluesKaj> llutz, /etc/xmodmap?
[07:04] <llutz> BluesKaj: /etc/X11/Xsession.d/80ubuntu-xmodmap
[07:04] <BluesKaj> oh that one ,yeah saw that in my xmodmap locate earlier ..thx llutz :)
[07:05] <llutz> BluesKaj: but, as the name says, it only switches off caps in X not on tty
[07:06] <BluesKaj> that's fine llutz
[07:07] <BluesKaj> i find the caps lock annoying mostly when on irc, webpages , email etc  , anyway
[07:08] <llutz> BluesKaj: it's mostly useless here too, i'm not that choleric type :)
[07:13] <Synteth> j java
[07:15] <ScorpKing> hi
[07:15] <BluesKaj> hi garfield
[07:15] <BluesKaj> :)
[07:15] <ScorpKing> lol
[07:16] <ScorpKing> he might call u tweety just now. :)
[07:16] <BluesKaj> ScorpKing, I didn't call hin sylvester  :)
[07:17] <BluesKaj> him
[07:17] <ScorpKing> lmao!
[07:18] <sylvester> i am getting crazy by trying to get compiz runnin on kubuntu
[07:18] <BluesKaj> not "puddy tat" eh
[07:18] <xp_killer> !offtopic | BluesKaj  ScorpKing
[07:18] <ubotu> BluesKaj  ScorpKing: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:19] <Tm_T> xp_killer: ?
[07:19] <Tm_T> xp_killer: er?
[07:20] <BluesKaj> boohoo xp
[07:20] <larry_> hey lookin 4 myouldwan?
[07:21] <BluesKaj> gonna check the caps lock defeat ...bbiab
[07:22] <_Shade_> i cannot save anything from the web... i get an error that there is not enough space in tmp. It has 25kb though
[07:22] <_Shade_> *it is
[07:22] <ScorpKing> run df
[07:22] <grul> 25 kb? that's not very much you know
[07:23] <_Shade_> grul: i know and that's why i am just wondering why i get this error
[07:25] <snowdonkey> stdin: Hey, I got Compiz working.  I had forgetten about a bug where if you don't have desktop icons enabled in Kubuntu then Compiz and Beryl won't work with a message about "no manageable screens".  :)
[07:26] <stdin> heh, I didn't even know about that bug :p
[07:29] <spark_> hi! i got a problem with my compiz-fusion installation(no i dont want to get a tutorial on HOW to install it) the installation its self is no problem. but everytime i restart x compiz-fusion won't work untill i reinstall it
[07:30] <Tm_T> !compiz | spark_
[07:30] <ubotu> spark_: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:31] <spark_> aaa thx didn'T know the ubuntu-effects channel... i thougt its a general problemm cause its the same matter with vmware-player
[07:32] <ross1101> hey guys
[07:33] <ScorpKing> hi
[07:33] <ross1101> im having a problem with konsole in kubuntu, i try to "su" and it tells me wrong password, when i run a GUI tool like wlanassistant it says enter the password and i put it in, and it works...
[07:33] <ross1101> i have the password written down, it always worked just untill up yesterday i just cant seem to su
[07:33] <stdin> !sudo
[07:33] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:34] <ross1101> oh yes
[07:34] <ross1101> my mistake
[07:34] <ross1101> i have stopped using this for a month
[07:34] <ross1101> hehe thanks
[07:34] <stdin> ross1101: sudo -i, is the same as su -
[07:34] <ross1101> ok thanks
[07:34] <ross1101> bye
[07:35] <christoffernors> Hi. All of a sudden i have no sound on my ubuntu. Anyone that can help me figure out why?
[07:35] <hcbox_> Rear speakers don't give sound as the center speaker, only the two front speakers & subwoofer are working. I got Audigy SE and seems to be detected, but named CA0106, is it normal ?
[07:39] <christoffernors> Hi. All of a sudden i have no sound on my ubuntu. Anyone that can help me figure out why?
[07:40] <fkm> Did someone of you manage to get Eclipse GCJ working with the PHP extention?
[07:41] <fkm> Or just Ecplise without the GCJ ;)
[07:44] <larry_> hey Murchadh im not registed
[07:45] <murchadh> larry_: Go into #kubuntu-offtopic.
[07:46] <larry_> cheers
[07:46] <wycked> hi all, I've a trouble with dpkg or apt-get, I don't really know, but when I try to install anything, it says "Failed to write cache" after ttf-opensymbole
[07:47] <wycked> how can I do to fix it ? :(
[07:52] <emilsedgh> wycked: I suggest you to search it on google
[07:53] <wycked> emilsedgh: huum .. okay I'll
[07:56] <kelvie_> Anyone know how to connect to a windows SMB share under a domain?
[07:56] <kelvie_> konqueror doesn't ask me for the domain
[07:56] <kelvie_> just username and password
[07:56] <kelvie_> whereas nautilus does and I can log on
[07:58] <bigleon1> Hello, is there currently a line for help?
[07:58] <poison--> !help
[07:58] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:59] <bigleon1> Well, I've done some research, it's a bit of an uncommon problem, i'm trying to get a device with MTP protrcal to work on my linux machine. I'm at a lost installing these Libmtp packages.
[08:02] <ks3> kelvie_, use DOMAIN\username for the username?
[08:04] <bigleon1> !help
[08:04] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:04] <bigleon1> !commands
[08:04] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[08:04] <bigleon1> !mtp
[08:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mtp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:05] <bigleon1> !Microsoft Transfer Protocol
[08:05] <bigleon1> gah
[08:05] <stdin> !msgthebot | bigleon1
[08:05] <ubotu> bigleon1: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[08:05] <bigleon1> Gotcha.
[08:05] <ScorpKing> bigleon1: seems like it's back to google for you... lol
[08:06] <bigleon1> Yeah... I was back at google
[08:06] <bigleon1> I keep going in circles
[08:06] <bigleon1> Trying to get my Gigabeat to work on my Kubuntu, and it says install Gomad , but to use it ineed libmtp libaries....
[08:07] <funkyfrog> dont talk to me about circles
[08:07] <genii> kelvie_: Have you tried joining the domain with something similar to:   sudo net join -U <domain-username>
[08:07] <ScorpKing> bigleon1: the only package i see for that is libmtp5
[08:07] <bigleon1> I've seen libmtp0 and 1 so it seems most the sites i've been to is infact outdated...
[08:08] <genii>  sudo net join -U <domain-username> -S <server-name>                even
[08:09] <ScorpKing> bigleon1: sudo aptitude search mtp - it will show you what's available.
[08:09] <stdin> bigleon1: are you compiling gomad?
[08:10] <bigleon1> Well it says i need to get the lib before compile, and to be honest i'm not sure how to compile
[08:10] <ScorpKing> its' libmtp5-dev then
[08:10] <stdin> bigleon1: install libmtp-dev
[08:10] <ScorpKing> sorry, its' libmtp-dev then
[08:10] <ScorpKing> lol
[08:11] <stdin> bigleon1: not libmtp5-dev (it doesn't exist)
[08:11] <bigleon1> Alright, well i found and download libmtp5_0.1.3XXXX.deb
[08:12] <stdin> it's in the ubuntu repos
[08:12] <stdin> !info libmtp-dev
[08:12] <ubotu> libmtp-dev: Implementation of Microsoft's MTP. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1.3-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 174 kB, installed size 1124 kB
[08:12] <stdin> !info libmtp5
[08:12] <ubotu> libmtp5: Implementation of Microsoft's MTP. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1.3-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 90 kB, installed size 312 kB
[08:13] <bigleon1> I got error missing destinational file, when i tried install XXXX.deb
[08:13] <spark_> how can i deinstall a programm COMPLETELY on kubuntu. if i deinstall firefox for e.g the config and all add ons sty saved...
[08:13] <poison--> adept= purge
[08:13] <stdin> bigleon1: install it with adept or apt-get
[08:13] <hangthedj> if it uses the Gigabeat uses mtp, you should just use amarok
[08:14] <bigleon1> Amarok?
[08:14] <bigleon1> Ahh, it says it's already installed in Adept Manager
[08:14] <stdin> bigleon1: KMenu > Multimedia > Amarok
[08:14] <hangthedj> i think since feisty mtp support is built in by default
[08:14] <bigleon1> But when i plug in my device it's not even reconized.
[08:15] <bigleon1> I'm using old verison like 6.06
[08:15] <hangthedj> ahh
[08:15] <poison--> u shold consider upin to latest
[08:15] <poison--> should even
[08:15] <bigleon1> I got the new one in mail 4-6 weeks though
[08:15] <stdin> !info libmtp-dev dapper
[08:15] <ubotu> Package libmtp-dev does not exist in dapper
[08:15] <stdin> libmtp's not in dapper
[08:16] <don> hello
[08:17] <stdin> bigleon1: you know you can't upgrade from the liveCD, and that you have to go dapper > edgy > feisty, you can't go straight to feisty?
[08:17] <ubuntu>  
[08:18] <bigleon1> No I didn't know, so how do i go through that process Stdin?
[08:19] <stdin> bigleon1: have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[08:19] <bigleon1> Alright
[08:20] <bigleon1> oh just a question, not sure how to word it, but isn't it possible to use num pad as a directional pad for the mouse?
[08:21] <bigleon1> I was running upgrade stuff and gksu command does not exist.
[08:22] <stdin> bigleon1: yeah, system settings > keyboard & mouse > mouse > mouse navigation
[08:22] <stdin> bigleon1: look at the Kubuntu instructions, not Ubuntu
[08:23] <stdin> ie: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades#head-d8c4cd1dd987e54723fef2760b37f9279487551f
[08:23] <bigleon1> okay i was trying other cause it said it was "less reliable."
[08:24] <bigleon1> I got an error, unable to lock the admin directory.
[08:27] <hangthedj> bigleon1, that usually means your not using sudo or kdesu
[08:28] <bigleon1> I would think i'm using it. it telling me anothr process is using it or something.
[08:30] <murchadh> !fixadept
[08:30] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[08:30] <bigleon1> Ahh ty
[08:30] <murchadh> bigleon1: NP
[08:32] <bigleon1> Trying to learn this and be profficent in it. I wana put linux on my laptop, but i'm afraid i can't play my Silkroad online... i hear wine is okay but not so great.
[08:33] <bigleon1> Woah as i was doing that instlation i got a slew of "bad device" errors
[08:34] <stdin> bigleon1: ignore those
[08:34] <murchadh> bigleon1: If you've got the processing power, look at running win in a vmware session (virtual machine).
[08:35] <bigleon1> well my pc just died the other day so i'm still in process of getting it online.
[08:35] <bigleon1> but i don't have a jump and got no way to get my nic working, and i'm at a lost cause dell only gave me vista drivers with an xp disk...
[08:35] <bigleon1> gotta love'em
[08:35] <hcbox_> Rear speakers don't give sound as the center speaker, only the two front speakers & subwoofer are working. I got Audigy SE and seems to be detected, but named CA0106, is it normal ?
[08:36] <wiseoldowl> I have a system that I installed Kubuntu on and have a weird audio problem - if I am using Firefox and have streaming audio playing (from a radio station web site) and I switch to a different Firefox tab (never mind another application) the audio stops playing.  This was not a problem when Windows was installed - anyone know what the solution might be?
[08:37] <elien> hi everyone
[08:37] <elien> I got a question
[08:37] <elien> maybe you can help
[08:37] <Faderhval> Evening people :) i have a question! im consedring install kubuntu and stepping away from linux the only thing holding me back is that i play World of warcraft i've heard it's possible to run WoW from a linux machine using wine is that true if so won't you get banned by blizz for 3rd part software? anyone know og got some experince in that field?
[08:37] <bigleon1> Alright I'll be right back. got to restart. Hopefully nothing messed up.
[08:38] <Faderhval> stepping away from windows* doh!
[08:39] <elien> I had a hard disk failure on /dev/sda1 where kubuntu is installed. I ran fsck and everything was fixed. but unfortunately rebooting linux it detects this hd as /dev/sdc, so boot fails. when I boot kubuntu live cd, hd is recognized as /dev/sda again. what can I do?
[08:39] <kristjan_> is it ok to install 32-bit kubuntu on 64-bit pc?
[08:39] <genii> Why always this big fascination with rebooting to fix things, i wonder
[08:39] <stdin> kristjan_: yep :)
[08:39] <cosmin> i whant to install  a web cam and when i click yes to agree to licens agreament it show "Cannot find Z\media\cdrom0\Drivers\Bin\WIN9XLST
[08:39] <kristjan_> stdin: will something perform worse or it's absolutely ok?
[08:40] <stdin> kristjan_: it'll be absolutely ok
[08:40] <kristjan_> genii: this is a bad habit of ex-windows users
[08:40] <genii> kristjan_: I tend to agree
[08:42] <kristjan_> stdin: do you happen to know what do I loose if I choose not to install 64-bit iso? is it mainly about memory usage?
[08:42] <stdin> kristjan_: if you have more 4GB+ RAM, it won't use it all
[08:43] <cosmin> whant to chat
[08:43] <cosmin> cosmin> i whant to install  a web cam and when i click yes to agree to licens agreament it show "Cannot find Z\media\cdrom0\Drivers\Bin\WIN9XLST
[08:43] <bigleon1> How can I conforim the upgrade?
[08:43] <bigleon1> confirm*
[08:44] <synteth> aply changes?
[08:44] <synteth> xD
[08:44] <stdin> !version | bigleon1
[08:44] <ubotu> bigleon1: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[08:44] <kristjan_> cosmin: you want to install it how? using drivers cd?
[08:44] <stdin> cosmin: you can't use the windows drivers
[08:44] <bigleon1> Alright I did that install thing from 6.06 to 6.10 or w/e and it didn't work.
[08:44] <stdin> !webcam | cosmin
[08:44] <ubotu> cosmin: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[08:45] <RivaeAerya> Where do i find themes for KDE, other than kde-look.org?
[08:45] <kristjan_> RivaeAerya: a few are available in package manager (adept)
[08:45] <merlino> where can I find help with xorg gutsy on geode lx?
[08:45] <RivaeAerya> kristjan_: where?
[08:46] <hangthedj> RivaeAerya, i think there is kubuntu-artwork.org, but there isn't much there
[08:46] <merlino> I updated and Xorg stops before the end of startup using 97% CPU
[08:46] <cosmin> what shoud i do?
[08:46] <kristjan_> RivaeAerya: huh, what language is your kubuntu
[08:46] <stdin> bigleon1: make sure you followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades#head-d8c4cd1dd987e54723fef2760b37f9279487551f
[08:46] <RivaeAerya> kristjan_: Dutch
[08:47] <stdin> cosmin: see the link ubotu gave you
[08:47] <kristjan_> RivaeAerya: use adept (orange thing in menu)
[08:47] <cosmin> k
[08:47] <RivaeAerya> "Add/remove programs"?
[08:48] <kristjan_> RivaeAerya: no, under "system" submenu
[08:48] <synteth> hey, one easy lame question, how do i write at the konsole a folder named Program Files
[08:48] <synteth> it seems not to accept the "space"
[08:48] <RivaeAerya> kristjan_: and then where to find the themes?
[08:48] <kristjan_> cosmin: no you know where is probability that your webcam allready works
[08:48] <kristjan_> RivaeAerya: did you find the adept?
[08:48] <RivaeAerya> kristjan_: ys
[08:48] <RivaeAerya> yes
[08:48] <elien> hi, can anyone help?
[08:49] <elien> I had a hard disk failure on /dev/sda1 where kubuntu is installed. I ran fsck and everything was fixed. but unfortunately rebooting linux it detects this hd as /dev/sdc, so boot fails. when I boot kubuntu live cd, hd is recognized as /dev/sda again. what can I do?
[08:49] <kristjan_> !netherlands
[08:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about netherlands - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:49] <bigleon1> stdin: Alright I noticed a step i missed. It tells me to edit the Sources.list but it says i don't have the rights to save the changes...
[08:49] <kristjan_> RivaeAerya: open it and search for "kde-style"
[08:49] <stdin> synteth: use tab to complete the name, or put the path in quotes, or put a '\' before the space: cd "Program Files" or cd Program\ Files
[08:49] <RivaeAerya> kristjan_: thanks :)
[08:49] <synteth> stdin Thanks
[08:50] <stdin> bigleon1: it tells you the command to run
[08:50] <mordeto> #ubuntu-pl
[08:50] <vlt> I've received a gpg encrypted mail but kmail refuses to decrypt it: "Reason: Crypto plug-in "openpgp" could not decrypt the data." When I save the plain text and run `gpg textfile` (as the same user) I can decrypt it. What's wrong here?
[08:51] <bigleon1> Ahh gotcha
[08:51] <bigleon1> Good i'm idiot when it comes to linux. XD
[08:52] <kristjan_> RivaeAerya: go here #ubuntu-nl - you can get help here in your native language
[08:52] <clars> what WM is best to run?
[08:52] <kristjan_> kwin?
[08:52] <pulaski> hello, has anyone complained about a recently brokekn NFS client?
[08:52] <kristjan_> clars: you mean wm - windowmanager?
[08:53] <RivaeAerya> kristjan_: hmm ok
[08:53] <RivaeAerya> kristjan_: oh and, the thing i was actually looking for: icons
[08:53] <kristjan_> cosmin: try to plug in your webcam see if it works
[08:53] <cosmin> :))))))))))))))))))
[08:54] <kristjan_> RivaeAerya: search for "kde-icons"
[08:54] <bigleon1> When I get up to Fiesty release, everything should be a bit more stremaline eh?
[08:54] <cosmin> You need to add the following repository to you source list [WWW]  Adding Repositories
[08:54] <RivaeAerya> kristjan_: thanks again
[08:54] <cosmin> what is that?
[08:54] <stdin> vlt: ask in #kde maybe?
[08:54] <cosmin> what it means?
[08:54] <kristjan_> cosmin: well? plug in your webcam and open kopete
[08:55] <RivaeAerya> kristjan_: any sites with icons?
[08:55] <kristjan_> RivaeAerya: kde-look.org
[08:56] <cosmin> kristjian.......camon..............
[08:56] <kristjan_> RivaeAerya: here is one example http://tinyurl.com/ynm26o
[08:57] <kristjan_> cosmin: what? did you test if it maybe allready works?
[08:57] <kristjan_> cosmin: where is high probability that linux has already drivers for your webcam
[08:57] <kristjan_> cosmin: what
[08:58] <kristjan_> cosmin: oops, ignore that last message :-)
[08:58] <cosmin> ofcourse i did that my friend
[08:58] <cosmin> yap...........i will ignore it :))))
[08:58] <stephen_> hi all...does anyone know where I can download a theme that will make my box look more like osx...I like the look, and all I can find are themes for gnome
[08:59] <stdin> stephen_: kde-look.org
[08:59] <stephen_> i am there now...have not seen any for kde...only for gnome
[09:00] <stdin> stephen_: it's kde-look.org, they're all for kde
[09:00] <cosmin> You need to add the following repository to you source list [WWW]  Adding Repositories
[09:00] <cosmin> what is that?
[09:00] <cosmin> what shoud i do?
[09:00] <kristjan_> cosmin: what is your native language?
[09:00] <cosmin> i from roumania
[09:01] <kristjan_> stephen_: sudo apt-get install kwin-baghira
[09:01] <stephen_> sorry was looking on the wrong tab...it was another site....have not really looked on kde-look.org yet...will browse through the themes...thx
[09:01] <stephen_> kristjan_-->is that a osx theme?
[09:01] <kristjan_> cosmin:  #ubuntu-ro
[09:03] <kristjan_> stephen_: it's this http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Baghira?content=8692 -prepackaged for you
[09:03] <pulaski> I run kubuntu feisty fawn 7.04. and my nfs shares are no logger automatically mounting on my client.  Has anyone here recently experienced this?
[09:03] <pulaski> I run kubuntu feisty fawn 7.04. and my nfs shares are no logger automatically mounting on my client.  Has anyone here recently experienced this?
[09:05] <cosmin> i whant to install easycam 2...and when i am on the site i must do this :You need to add the following repository to you source list [WWW]  Adding Repositories        but i don't know  what in the god name that means
[09:06] <|FrOstiE|> u got link ^^
[09:06] <kristjan_> cosmin: I think you have trouble with english language go here: #ubuntu-ro
[09:06] <cosmin> deb http://blognux.free.fr/debian unstable main
[09:07] <|FrOstiE|> ok ill read it ty
[09:07] <guru__> hi
[09:07] <cosmin> where i must to write this?
[09:07] <|FrOstiE|> see if i can make heads or tails of it :)
[09:07] <|FrOstiE|> here cosmin
[09:07] <|FrOstiE|> type /join #unbuntu-ro
[09:07] <|FrOstiE|> type /join #ubuntu-ro
[09:08] <guru__> anybody has luck running yahoo messenger using wine on feisty fawn?
[09:09] <stdin> cosmin: or just open konsole and do: echo "deb http://blognux.free.fr/debian unstable main" | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/easycam.list
[09:09] <cosmin> THERE IS NOBODY ON UBUNTU-RO      what is with you guys?!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
[09:09] <stdin> guru__: 1) there is a linux version, 2) kopete will work with yahoo
[09:09] <|FrOstiE|> romania
[09:09] <|FrOstiE|> lol
[09:09] <stdin> !caps | cosmin
[09:09] <ubotu> cosmin: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[09:09] <|FrOstiE|> type /join #ubuntu-romania
[09:10] <|FrOstiE|> no there aint :(
[09:10] <guru__> ok thanks mine is amd64 so didnt find a linux version for it
[09:10] <|FrOstiE|> maybe wrong channel he gave
[09:10] <stephen_> stdin--->much appreciated....almost exactly what i was looking for ... will have to tweak a little.
[09:10] <stephen_> thnx
[09:11] <stdin> guru__: kopete will work anyway, and it'll probably work better than ymessenger under wine
[09:11] <|FrOstiE|> nopes there is people on #ubuntu-ro
[09:11] <|FrOstiE|> :)
[09:13] <bigleon1> I tried to run google talk on wine, and it failed once, and then i can't even find where to open up the file any more on wine
[09:13] <bigleon1> like it booted and had i guess a runtime error, and i can't find where to start program again
[09:13] <stdin> bigleon1: kopete also works with google talk
[09:13] <bigleon1> I wanted Google talk for the Email alerts
[09:14] <bigleon1> i don't even have anyone on my msger, i just like the alert system.
[09:14] <stdin> !info gmail-notify | bigleon1
[09:14] <ubotu> bigleon1: gmail-notify: A Gmail Notifier. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.1-3 (feisty), package size 23 kB, installed size 184 kB
[09:14] <bigleon1> Alright, well i'm currently working my way up to Fesity so i'll get that when i get there. Thank you
[09:14] <kristjan_> cosmin: take your webcam in your hands and insert it gently into your USB port of your computer; then see if it works
[09:14] <stdin> bigleon1: there's also kcheckgmail
[09:15] <cosmin> frostie you know my language or just u whant to see if i'm on the channel
[09:15] <|FrOstiE|> lol
[09:15] <bigleon1> The closest thing i got right now is that plugin with firefox.
[09:15] <|FrOstiE|> was looking sorry
[09:15] <cosmin> kristian.....go .........somewhere
[09:15] <kristjan_> cosmin: did you even try it; did you plug it in?
[09:16] <|FrOstiE|> lol
[09:16] <guru__> thanks stdin - kopete works fine
[09:16] <bigleon1> Gah, did you plug it in." Oh your suppose to plug it in?"
[09:16] <bigleon1> thats why i no longer do windows on call tech support
[09:17] <kristjan_> cosmin: where is an easy way to check if your webcam works with kopete
[09:18] <vlt> Hello. I have installed "gnupg2", "gnupg-agent" and "pinentry-qt" but kmail refuses to decrypt a gpg encryptet message. What's missing here?
[09:18] <rihards> !sound
[09:18] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[09:18] <kristjan_> bigleon1: that's not the case, I think cosmin is just sure that this particular webcam won't work immediately
[09:18] <stdin> kristjan_: open kopete and go to Settings > configure > devices
[09:18] <kristjan_> stdin: you mean cosmin :-)
[09:19] <stdin> kristjan_: no, you asked :p
[09:19] <kristjan_> stdin: err, then?
[09:19] <bigleon1> My webcam didn't even reconize, i said screw it so people won't see me
[09:20] <bigleon1> I'll trya gain once i get fiesty up. it's just a lil logi quick cam
[09:20] <cosmin> stdin.....and then?
[09:21] <kristjan_> cosmin: did you test your webcam or not? don't be so stubborn
[09:21] <stdin> cosmin: if you see a picture in a box then it works
[09:22] <cosmin> is blue
[09:22] <cosmin> just blue
[09:23] <kristjan_> cosmin: great, then it doesn't work yet. follow the instructions on the ubuntu wiki page to make it work. you had trouble understanding what is repository?
[09:24] <acemo> could anyone guide me trough a vmWare workstation setup? after doing a setup it says its either not configured either not configured correctly
[09:24] <vlt> How do I start gpg-agent?
[09:25] <jhutchins> Today's musical theme is: "Loud!"
[09:25] <rihards> How do i reinstaal soundriver
[09:25] <rihards>  ?
[09:26] <stdin> vlt: see man gpg-agent or man:/gpg-agent   you have to start it a specific way
[09:26] <tcleval> how can i have both gnome and kde on kubuntu?
[09:26] <stdin> tcleval: install "ubuntu-desktop"
[09:26] <milian_> tcleval: install both ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop
[09:26] <ceg23349> Magic!
[09:26] <ceg23349> or that
[09:26] <rrazpo> salut tout le monde =)
[09:26] <rrazpo> erf tromp de chan >_>
[09:26] <stdin> !fr
[09:27] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:27] <walkover> installing them both gives a lot of redundant functions
[09:27] <vlt> stdin: "No manual entry for gpg-agent"
[09:27] <clars> is WMplayer or WMserver best to run?
[09:27] <tcleval> and if i have both installed, how can the user chose kde or gnome ?
[09:27] <stdin> vlt: you need to install it then
[09:28] <vlt> stdin: install what?
[09:28] <stdin> tcleval: the login manager will have the options in it's menu
[09:28] <vlt> I have installed the pkg gnupg-agent.
[09:28] <bigleon1> if i wanted to set up a FTP on my Kubuntu machine, why would probbaly least headache invigorating to go about it?
[09:29] <stdin> vlt: then "man gnupg-agent" should work
[09:29] <acemo> could anyone guide me trough a vmWare workstation setup? after doing a setup it says its either not configured either not configured correctly
[09:30] <stdin> bigleon1: have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ProFTPD
[09:30] <vlt> stdin: "No manual entry for gnupg-agent" (Thanks, btw, for your help with "runlevel UNKNOWN" problem.)
[09:31] <stdin> vlt: ahh, it's "man gpg-agent" :p
[09:31] <stdin> vlt: if you don't have that, make _sure_ you installed gnupg-agent
[09:31] <stdin> vlt: as there is a manpage in there
[09:32] <stoffer_> hi i need some help with envy. i cannot get my nvidia drivers to work
[09:32] <stoffer_> with vesa i can have 1280x1024 wiyhout problems but with nvidia only 640x480 as max :S
[09:33] <stdin> !envy
[09:33] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[09:33] <stoffer_> oh
[09:33] <stoffer_> so i should uninstall it?
[09:34] <stoffer_> someone recomended it to me previous
[09:34] <ceg23349> Hey... is there any distro or application in Linux that can read NTFS drives?
[09:34] <stoffer_> !envy
[09:34] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[09:35] <stoffer_> what is the restricted manager?
[09:36] <vlt> stdin: `aptitude show gnupg-agent` => Package: gnupg-agent  State: installed
[09:36] <vlt> stdin: `man gpg-agent` => No manual entry for gpg-agent
[09:36] <stdin> vlt: do you have /usr/share/man/man1/gpg-agent.1.gz ?
[09:37] <vlt> stdin: No such file
[09:38] <stdin> vlt: hmm, try reinstalling it, it is supposed to be there
[09:38] <stdin> vlt: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=gnupg-agent&version=feisty&arch=i386
[09:39] <stdin> vlt: unless you're on dapper ?
[09:40] <stdin> vlt: or edgy for that matter
[09:40] <vlt> stdin: This is Kubuntu Dapper LTS
[09:41] <stdin> ahh
[09:41] <djdarkman> does someone know how to remove a file from a kdevelop project?
[09:42] <vlt> stdin: "ahh"? Something I you should tell em now? ;-)
[09:43] <vlt> s/I// s/em/me/
[09:44] <spark_> hi
[09:44] <stdin> vlt: this may help then http://stdin.110mb.com/gpg-agent.html
[09:47] <acemo> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "linux-headers2.6.20-16-generic"
[09:47] <acemo> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "build-essentials
[09:47] <acemo> arent these 2 in the default debs?
[09:49] <hangthedj> acemo, linux-headers-2.6.20-16-generic and build-essential
[09:49] <NickPresta> !info build-essential
[09:49] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3 (feisty), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[09:49] <NickPresta> hangthedj, :)
[09:49] <hangthedj> your missing the dash on linux headers and you have an extra s
[09:49] <acemo> ahh nice tutorial then ^^
[09:55] <poison--> is there a way to "ghost" my system and move it to other laptop with the same specs
[09:56] <poison--> so i dont have to update all the stuff again
[09:56] <acemo> poison--: norton ghost? not sure if it can handle linux partitions...
[09:57] <poison--> cant use norton in kubuntu.. rite
[09:57] <acemo> norton ghost 8 (not sure bout the version) works from a boot disk
[09:58] <elzbal> poison--: Use "dd".
[09:59] <poison--> seems G4U works
[09:59] <elzbal> poison--: See also this (first hit from google for "dd filesystem backup")  http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-do-i-make-linux-filesystem-backup-with-dd.html
[09:59] <poison--> sweet
[09:59] <poison--> ty
[10:02] <mintsoup> I'm getting a sort of really strange bug using firefox in kubuntu.  When I go to digg.com, there is more often than not an ad for Sony HDNA that appears on the main page.  When I click on a link firefox will freeze and not load anything till I remove focus from the window.  It doesn't happen on any digg pages that don't have the HDNA ad--am i crazy or is that hdna ad fucked up?
[10:03] <stdin> !language
[10:03] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:03] <mintsoup> my apologies
[10:04] <poison--> flash issues
[10:04] <poison--> had dat before
[10:04] <arash_> sorry guys I feel completely retarded, but I have issues with my sound and a guy helped me in this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3340848#post3340848 , but I still dont understand what he says, anyone know what he means by 'media control applet' ?
[10:06] <hangthedj> arash_, kmix will let you choose i think
[10:07] <stdin> arash_: it's an applet (think plugin) for kicker, (the app that makes that bar with the KMenu and taskbar on it)
[10:07] <arash_> stdin , seems i should reinstall, how do I do that?
[10:07] <arash_> hangthedj ; hmmm I tried alot with it, what exactly should I do?
[10:08] <hangthedj> arash_, right click on the speaker icon, then open mixer window, and there should be a dropdown list
[10:08] <bbeck__> join #kde
[10:10] <arash_> hangthedj:  none of that works
[10:10] <bbeck__> I was wondering if anyone has gotten KDE4 to work even reasonably well on their systems?  Yes I know it's in Beta, but trying to open even things like kpat lead to segmentation faults.
[10:10] <hangthedj> do you have a speaker icon in the taskbar?
[10:10] <arash_> hangthedj:  yea
[10:10] <hangthedj> what happens when you rightclick on it?
[10:11] <arash_> hangthedj: it says Kmix on top of it, and there are 4 options
[10:11] <bbeck__> Konsole works awesome unless you select View on the file bar, then it crashes, but I assume that's just a bug.
[10:11] <stdin> bbeck__: it's full of bugs, there's nothing we can do about them however
[10:11] <hangthedj> arash_, does one of the options say open mixer window or something?
[10:11] <hangthedj> show mixer window?
[10:12] <arash_> hangthedj:  yea, I can do that with left click too :)
[10:12] <hangthedj> what happens when you show the mixer window?
[10:13] <arash_> hangthedj: there are several options, the drop list has 'EasyCall' (the annoying keyboard,mouse, loudspeaker and everything) and 'SAA7134
[10:13] <arash_> doesnt matter how I activate deactivate the bars, I cant get the other speakers to make sound
[10:13] <NickPresta> !hardware
[10:13] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[10:14] <bbeck__> stdin: I expected that, but I've seen screenshots of some of the applications I tried, so I assume that somewhere someone must have gotten them to compile, and run.
[10:14] <idagas> so i got a laptop with no wired inet connection capabilities... the wireless (broadcom) works in xp, not in kubuntu 7... i can't seem to get anything working (ndiswrapper)... etc without packages i need to get through the repositories any thoughts?
[10:15] <hangthedj> arash_, hmm not sure, it seems its detecting them.
[10:15] <hangthedj> !sound | arash_
[10:15] <ubotu> arash_: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[10:15] <arash_> anyway, seems like the guy in the forum helped me, just I need to know what the whhole 'media control applet' is
[10:16] <bbeck__> stdin: Ah, it was my fault, I had a mix of different versions of kde4 apps.
[10:17] <poison--> idagas, wich brand the laptop
[10:17] <idagas> hp ze4500
[10:17] <poison--> lan card brand
[10:18] <poison--> can u make a lspci and show me
[10:18] <idagas> i got xp running right now
[10:18] <idagas> poison - the wlan is a broadcom
[10:19] <idagas> poison - i've seen many tutorials on wiki's about getting the specific wlan to work with ndiswrapper
[10:20] <idagas> poison - i can't seem to get the packages to work with out a lot of the linux headers and i'm stuck trying to figure out HOW to get them w/ no wired lan
[10:20] <idagas> the lan is - nat. semi-conductors - its fried though so all i have to work with is the wireless
[10:20] <idagas> which only works w/ xp
[10:21] <idagas> i have come close to throwing this laptop acrossed the room ;x
[10:22] <poison--> eheheh
[10:23] <poison--> ok, its a broadcom, but can u get me the specific model
[10:23] <poison--> i was able to make too laptops work here with broadcom wlan
[10:23] <idagas> broadcom 802.11b/g WLAN
[10:24] <idagas> i have drivers which i planned on using ndiswrapper for but  can't get ndiswrapper to work
[10:24] <ScorpKing> poison--: i have a broadcom in my laptop.
[10:24] <poison--> wich version of ndiswrapper u usin
[10:24] <poison--> i used 1.47
[10:24] <poison--> and u need a few other packages to make the damn thing to work
[10:24] <poison--> once i even had to blacklist a driver for it to work
[10:25] <ScorpKing> poison--: not sure. how do i check. also run dmsg | tail and pastebin in for me.
[10:25] <ScorpKing> it*
[10:25] <poison--> try:  ndiswrapper -v
[10:25] <poison--> should tell ya the version
[10:26] <ScorpKing> poison--: i don't even have it. looks like ur taking the long way.
[10:26] <poison--> ohh
[10:26] <poison--> lmao
[10:26] <poison--> wait a sec
[10:26] <idagas> well what i'm thinking i have to do is download all the packages i'll need first, i think build-essential and another package so ndiswrapper functions properly
[10:27] <poison--> have a nice how 2 here
[10:27] <poison--> yes idagas
[10:27] <ScorpKing> i fixed mine this morning
[10:27] <idagas> i just wish i knew all those packages
[10:28] <ScorpKing> poison--: what does dmsg | tail say? any errors?
[10:29] <poison--> but i had to install a few crap first
[10:30] <poison--> errors.. where
[10:30] <poison--> ca
[10:30] <poison--> the only thing i was unable to put to work is the damn question mark
[10:30] <poison--> lol
[10:30] <poison--> hell
[10:31] <ScorpKing> poison--: dmesg | tail will show if there are missing drivers and which ones you need. mb :)
[10:32] <poison--> everitin workin here buddie
[10:32] <poison--> eheheh
[10:32] <poison--> even wireless
[10:32] <poison--> just the damn keyboard kindof weird
[10:32] <ScorpKing> lol. i see. have fun
[10:33] <poison--> idagas, justa  sec
[10:33] <ScorpKing> check in the BIOS if usb support is what it should be
[10:34] <ScorpKing> mmm. i'm talking to the wrong guy. funny..
[10:34] <ScorpKing> idagas: i was talking to you. lol
[10:34] <poison--> ahahhahahaha
[10:35] <ScorpKing> lmao! yeah.
[10:35] <vlt> stdin: Thank you. Evil eval did it. But now the variable GPG_AGENT_INFO seems to be available only on the shell I started gpg-agent from. How can I "export" it globally?
[10:35] <idagas> haha
[10:35] <idagas> oh let me scroll up and see what you had to say
[10:35] <poison--> check pm idagas
[10:35] <ScorpKing> idagas: i'm here. lol
[10:36] <ScorpKing> i'm blond, if that explains it. :)
[10:36] <stdin> vlt: put that code in ~/.bashrc I guess
[10:37] <idagas> poison - i see ur pm, what do u wanna say in it
[10:37] <GIn> any one know how to add the little bar on the top in this screenshot? http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=62864&file1=62864-1.jpg&file2=&file3=&name=%E2%98%85+Simple+%26+Nice
[10:37] <poison--> the packages u need
[10:37] <idagas> scorpking- my problem is i can't get my wired connection to work so i can't download anything
[10:37] <idagas> k
[10:38] <ScorpKing> that suck. how u on irc then?
[10:38] <idagas> it runs on xp
[10:38] <idagas> so i had to reinstall xp after a sunday of computer frustration hell
[10:39] <ScorpKing> that's gonna be a mission. let me get a link so you can identify the card.
[10:39] <poison--> lmao
[10:40] <login_> blin
[10:40] <idagas> i've look at a lot of tutorials, i think i need build packages to get ndiswrapper to work properly
[10:40] <ScorpKing> idagas: download aida32 - http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/System-Info/AIDA.shtml
[10:41] <ScorpKing> it will show the model of the card.
[10:41] <vivia> hello. I just plugged a usb printer and I go to system settings -> printers -> add printer, but all options are greyed out apart from SMB printers... i can't get it working with http://localhost:631 either... any ideas?
[10:41] <ScorpKing> vivia: enable administrator mode
[10:41] <idagas> well i have drivers ya know, i know the card model
[10:41] <vivia> ScorpKing: i did, same thing.... `sudo lpinfo -v` seems to know nothing about usb...
[10:42] <ScorpKing> vivia: sudo lsha | less? maybe it will show up there.
[10:42] <ScorpKing> vivia: sudo lshw | less? maybe it will show up there.
[10:43] <ScorpKing> lshw not lsha
[10:43] <vivia> it does, and in lsusb too...
[10:44] <vivia> i have a /dev/usblp0 fwiw...
[10:45] <ScorpKing> you can always configure cups by hand but thats a mission. :(
[10:45] <bjwebb> hi
[10:46] <vivia> anything but connecting my printer to the windows machine and printing from there... the desktop is too noisy so i just thought i'd avoid turning it on...
[10:46] <bjwebb> i think my pc might be using an overly large amount of RAM
[10:46] <vivia> ah, i had the same problem on dapper on the desktop, but don't ask me how i solved it!
[10:47] <ScorpKing> i think it's bedtime for me. hope u'll sort it out. later...
[10:47] <vivia> ok... gn!
[10:48] <poison--> vivia, whats the printer brand
[10:48] <poison--> and model
[10:48] <vivia> lexmark e321
[10:49] <vivia> if i add a "print to file" and select /dev/usblp0 as the file?...
[10:50] <poison--> no
[10:50] <Flatfender> Can I apt-get the Doom 3 Demo?
[10:50] <JuJuBee> What is a simple way to print a list of all installed packages?
[10:51] <stdin> JuJuBee: dpkg --get-selections
[10:51] <JuJuBee> Thanks.
[10:51] <vivia> if you go to "add printer", first screen is the welcome screen, the second one should be giving you a bunch of options. on me, all of them are greyed out apart from SMB, other, and printer class
[10:51] <stdin> !clone
[10:51] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[10:53] <ndr> If I wanted to install all of the *-dev files (so I don't have to chase dependencies when compiling) would it break my system?
[10:53] <poison--> vivia, did u get the latest drivers for it
[10:54] <vivia> poison--: it's not a matter of drivers, the system cannot see the device
[10:54] <vivia> i mean, i have a /dev/usblp0, but how can i tell the system that one printer is there? once i do this, i can worry about rivers
[10:54] <vivia> drivers*
[10:54] <poison--> easy buddie
[10:55] <poison-->   print-drivers-linux-glibc2-x86.deb
[10:55] <poison--> grab those
[10:55] <poison--> http://downloads.lexmark.com/cgi-perl/downloads.cgi?category=Drivers&ccs=229:1:0:365:0:0&searchLang=en&os_group=Debian%20GNU
[10:55] <JuJuBee> stdin : that's cool.  Can you suggest a good (fast/simple) way to clone a HD?  I am setting up a computer lab in school with 15 computers.
[10:56] <poison--> vivia, than: dpkg -i print-drivers- linux-glibc2-x86.deb
[10:56] <JuJuBee> I have used dd, but it takes a very long time on a 160GB HD (bout 4 hrs)
[10:56] <stdin> JuJuBee: maybe https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html will help
[10:56] <poison--> and: /usr/local/lexmark/setup.lexprint
[10:56] <Flatfender> What is the apt-get command for the doom 3 demo, if there is one?
[10:56] <stdin> JuJuBee: having an automated install and probably a local repo will help
[10:57] <stdin> !find doom
[10:57] <ubotu> Found: deutex, freedoom, kdoomsday, lxdoom, lxdoom-sndserv (and 4 others)
[10:57] <JuJuBee> I'll have a look, thanks.
[10:57] <poison--> got it vivia
[10:58] <vivia> wait a sec....
[10:58] <poison--> :D
[10:58] <vivia> yeah, my connection is slow
[10:58] <vivia> but on the desktop it works as hp laserjet 4 series
[10:59] <powr> i have fresh instal of feitsy 7
[10:59] <powr> wich packets do i ieed to install to be able to install from source?
[10:59] <poison--> wtf
[11:00] <vivia> yes, i just want to go to "add printer" and have the usb option enabled, is this so hard? :(
[11:00] <stdin> powr: build-essential is, essential :)
[11:00] <powr> where do i get it?
[11:00] <stdin> powr: apt-get/adept
[11:00] <powr> do i need some extra repozitories installed?
[11:00] <stdin> powr: no, it's in main
[11:00] <powr> it doesnt find it
[11:00] <stdin> !info build-essential
[11:00] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3 (feisty), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[11:01] <stdin> powr: see ^ it's in main
[11:01] <powr> oh
[11:01] <powr> its working
[11:01] <stdin> ;)
[11:01] <bigleon1> stdin: When i install patches off net, are those minimal installations or full ones?
[11:01] <powr> i must misspelled it last time :)
[11:01] <powr> tnx
[11:02] <stdin> bigleon1: huh?
[11:02] <bigleon1> going from derb to fiesty
[11:02] <stdin> bigleon1: it will update all your installed packages
[11:02] <bigleon1> like when i do installation you told me to do, to upgrade from verisions, are those full installations or does it only install basics
[11:02] <bigleon1> oh okay, i gotcha so it just does a full update of what i previous have.
[11:03] <stdin> yep
[11:04] <bigleon1> so if i wanted to get new software that came with later stock packages, I'd have to install them manually?>
[11:06] <stdin> it's not recommended to install packages from newer distributions on older ones
[11:06] <bigleon1> well i'm updating to newest package
[11:06] <bigleon1> or distrib or w/e XD
[11:07] <stdin> ahh, lets just call it a version :p
[11:07] <Flatfender> How do I make the boot tell me the other 4 selections for doom?
[11:07] <vsudilov> hmmm anyone know why my sound suddenly stopped working? (I've tried stopping/restarting system sound, rebooting machine, and making sure everything didn't suddenly get unplugged)
[11:08] <bigleon1> Did you make sure speakers them selves are working?
[11:08] <bigleon1> like plug them into mp3 player or something?
[11:09] <vsudilov> yes, they work -- this is an operating system
[11:09] <vsudilov> problem
[11:09] <stdin> !sound
[11:09] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:09] <Flatfender> !doom3
[11:09] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[11:09] <vsudilov> ok Ill look, thanks stdin
[11:10] <bigleon1> stdin you got this down to an artform eh?
[11:10] <stdin> bigleon1: I've been using it for a while, so yeah :)
[11:11] <bigleon1> stdin: last time i messed with it was back when i was in college getting my A+ cert
[11:12] <bigleon1> stdin: I think i'm going to start running my laptop on kubuntu too.
[11:12] <bigleon1> only if i can get my media player to transfer my files lmao
[11:12] <bigleon1> i'm got my lil gigabeat v30, and it's got all my homework on it
[11:13] <bigleon1> i'm 18
[11:13] <vivia> what is the uri for /dev/usblp0 ?
[11:13] <bigleon1> i've got about a year of linux experince under my belt
[11:13] <bigleon1> i've done more work doing servers than personal use
[11:13] <bigleon1> Xp is HORRRRIble for webservers and ftp etc. althoug easy, not great quality or security
[11:14] <stdin> vivia: uri, hmm, usb:/dev/usblp0
[11:14] <elpez> hello... how can i get rgb output for a separate tv screen...?
[11:14] <bigleon1> lol
[11:15] <stdin> !tvout
[11:15] <ubotu> For help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)
[11:15] <bigleon1> Elpez, you'll have to use S-video or buy a special video card
[11:15] <bigleon1> i don't thnk i've seen RGB in ages on a vid card
[11:15] <elpez> even for a videobeam ?
[11:15] <bigleon1> I use S-vid for my stuff and it works fine
[11:16] <bigleon1> to be honest i'm not sure what videobeam is
[11:16] <Daisuke_Laptop> :(  you people with your working s-video out :\
[11:16] <vivia> stdin: thanx!!! that seems to work! (Y) :)
[11:16] <Daisuke_Laptop> wow, i'm actually up to date with software updates
[11:17] <Daisuke_Laptop> for an hour or two, anyway
[11:17] <vivia> :'( no, it says sth like "unable to complete the requested operation"
[11:18] <vsudilov> stdin: seems that I had a motherboard sound chip that I had to mod blacklist. Sound works now ;)
[11:18] <elpez> but nvidia-settings seems to detect it...
[11:18] <stdin> Daisuke_Laptop: I got tired with typing "sudo apt-get update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade", so I make a wrapper and I can just do "ag du" now :P
[11:18] <elpez> (the rgb output i connect)
[11:19] <bigleon1> Daisuke_laptop Whats wrong with my S-vid out
[11:21] <bigleon1>    I'm going to run out and get dinner, i'll be back in like 30mins - hour
[11:23] <vivia> Alright, I did it.
[11:23] <vivia> I went to the CUPS web interface, added one "Epson Parallel Printer" with the ljet4 module, the URI was epson:/dev/lp0 . I went to the KDE interface to change that to usblp0 and it works
[11:25] <Yendor> Why is my Knetworkmanager telling me Knetworkmanager not working?! all my drivers are installed correctly...what is the problem, how can I solve it please?
[11:29] <ALX82> somebody have a beryl guide?
[11:29] <Yendor> Why is my Knetworkmanager telling me Knetworkmanager not working?! all my drivers are installed correctly...what is the problem, how can I solve it please?
[11:29] <SlimeyPete> !beryl
[11:29] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:30] <ALX82> ubotu:is the same for kubuntu
[11:31] <Jack333> hey konqueror isn't loading pages anymore
[11:31] <Jack333> i just get,
[11:31] <Jack333> An error occurred while loading http://google.com:
[11:31] <Jack333> Could not connect to host http://google.com/.
[11:31] <Jack333> but firefox/ every other app that uses internet works fine
[11:33] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: you here?
[11:34] <powr> when i install vmware workstation i get error:
[11:34] <powr> Configuring fallback GTK+ 2.4 libraries.
[11:34] <powr> Unable to open /usr/lib/vmware/libconf/etc/pango/pangorc
[11:34] <powr> Execution aborted.
[11:34] <powr> what to do?
[11:35] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: well anyways, driver problem... SOLVED!  did some surfing around... tried things out, nothing worked, then our good old friend envy solved everything....
[11:35] <zgmf-x20a> now on to the cd rom drive.... oi vey
[11:35] <kkathman> hey thats great!
[11:35] <ninhobomba> !tv-out
[11:35] <ubotu> For help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)
[11:35] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: trust me its AMAZING!  i got resolution again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:35] <zgmf-x20a> lol
[11:35] <kkathman> very good!
[11:36] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: and get this, it IS a problem with the GLX driver
[11:36] <kkathman> well see I wondered if that was the case
[11:36] <zgmf-x20a> i actually read thru the code of the envy install,w ehn it was doing its thing and i needed a whole wack of things for the 8000 series to work properly
[11:37] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: it was actually rather interesting to give it a read and see whats involved in that program, very well done
[11:37] <zgmf-x20a> im no pro, but i mean, its pretty easy to see it is quite thorough
[11:37] <kkathman> well Im glad it all worked out!!
[11:39] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: me 2, thats for sure.  now i just have to test out the triple monior support see if that works, then im golden.  well sorta.  have the cd rom to fix, and actually, you know anything about webcams and getting them up and running by any chance?  its a logitech quickcam fusion.  just asking
[11:40] <kkathman> hmm well I dont know much about webcams... they can be a little problematic I hear for some
[11:40] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: yah i figured.  all i need is the image for skype, etc, b/c i leave for japan in 2 weeks and will be using it as my primary means of communication
[11:41] <kkathman> Im sure we can find some support somewhere
[11:41] <kkathman> sometimes it just takes digging as you have experienced :)
[11:42] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: yah thats for sure.  i think im going to go hit the forums about the cd rom and the webcam for abit, see if that brings up anything.  maybe have a nap, got my tetnus shot today... that sucked.  but need to get right again before i head out to japan
[11:43] <zgmf-x20a> kkathman: ill catch you later though, and thanks again for the help yesterday
[11:46] <nightwatch> hi there... I've got a problem.. I need to enable the s-video or vga output in my laptop in order to view the screen with datashow... the problem is.. my card is i810 and my system is ubuntu 64bits.. any advice to make it work? I got no message when I connect the vga datashow cable.
[11:48] <El_Felixo_Berlin> would anyone be so kind to look through some xorg.conf files with me? I am trying to set up dualhead view. All my HowTos did not help me.
[11:52] <mauri> hi i've a problem with the caracters of amsn. They are illegibly
[11:53] <billytwowilly> anyone own a samsung clp-300? is it any good in linux?
[11:55] <vivia> mauri: which amsn version?
[11:55] <Daisuke_Laptop> and what is the clp-3000
[11:55] <Daisuke_Laptop> 300, even
[11:55] <Daisuke_Laptop> samsung makes a lot of different things
[11:55] <Daisuke_Laptop> is it a phone, a camera, a tv?
[12:00] <digitalhead> can anybody help me disable a dead sound card?
[12:02] <vivia> mauri: there?
[12:02] <Daisuke_Laptop> hrmm, no trevino repo for gutsy yet :)
[12:02] <mauri> vivia: sorry i didn't understand
[12:02] <Yendor> Why is my Knetworkmanager telling me Knetworkmanager not working?! all my drivers are installed correctly...what is the problem, how can I solve it please?
[12:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> you're online, what's the issue?
[12:03] <vivia> mauri: while on amsn's main screen, press ctrl+p for preferences and go to the second tab
[12:04] <vivia> then on the right side, press the second button from top, it is the "change font" button. choose another font and/or size ;)
[12:04] <vivia> hi [GuS]  :D
[12:05] <[GuS] > lol vivia!hi!
[12:05] <mauri> vivia: done, but it still continuing to be illegibly
[12:05] <[GuS] > :)
[12:05] <[GuS] > what are you doing here! jeje ;)
[12:05] <vivia> [GuS] : trying to get my CUPS that i just might have a printer on the usb port :D
[12:05] <vivia> [GuS] : you? doing kubuntu artwork?
[12:05] <vivia> mauri: can you post a screenshot so i can see an example?
[12:06] <vivia> mauri: upload it somewhere (imageshack?) and paste the link
[12:07] <[GuS] > vivia: that too :P
[12:07] <Yendor> Why is my Knetworkmanager telling me Knetworkmanager not working?! all my drivers are installed correctly...what is the problem, how can I solve it please?
[12:07] <[GuS] > but i support users too here.
[12:07] <digitalhead> I have a dead integrated VIA 8237 and a functional USB sound card that Kubuntu doesn't seem to want me to use anymore. I had it working before, but I just reinstalled and can't remember how I did it before
[12:08] <cody> Hello all
[12:08] <vivia> [GuS] : so... lpinfo -v gives me much less options than it was supposed to... no options for serial, parallel, usb, ipp, http, lpd... any ideas?
[12:08] <cody> Could someone help me?
[12:08] <millasiano> hola alguien de arica
[12:08] <cody> Please ^_^
[12:08] <Yendor> ATTENTION: Why is my Knetworkmanager telling me Knetworkmanager not working?! all my drivers are installed correctly...what is the problem, how can I solve it please?
[12:09] <Daisuke_Laptop> ATTENTION: caps are annoying.  i already asked you a question in response, answer that first.
[12:09] <[GuS] > mmm , but which is your problem vivia?
[12:09] <drewcipher> cody:  please state your question and if someone can help they will
[12:09] <Daisuke_Laptop> Yendor: what's the problem?
[12:10] <Daisuke_Laptop> have you tried restarting knetworkmanager?
[12:10] <vivia> [GuS] : that i have a usb printer connected, i go to "add printer" (or localhost:631) and i can't find an option for usb :'(
[12:10] <[GuS] > thats weird
[12:10] <Daisuke_Laptop> you're obviously online, so if it's telling you it isn't working, something has to be working, because you're here.
[12:10] <[GuS] > cause when you have the printer on, and plugued in the usb
[12:10] <cody> I get this error "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables" when trying to ./configure
[12:10] <[GuS] > should appear there
[12:10] <Daisuke_Laptop> cody: install build-essential
[12:11] <Yendor> Oh sorry if it was so I didnt see it... ok now knetworkmanager was working fine... I tried something in its menu and then instead of the wireless & wired connection list it started showing me knetworkmanager no working....I tried restarting with no avail... everything seeems normal as I saw with the iwconfig... andI  apologise again
[12:11] <[GuS] > if lsusb indicates the printer connected, then should be there... thats weird
[12:11] <Daisuke_Laptop> cody: ubuntu doesn't ship by default with a c compiler installed, that package takes care of that
[12:11] <Daisuke_Laptop> hrmm
[12:11] <cody> Thankyou Dasisuke
[12:11] <Daisuke_Laptop> knetworkmanager is notoriously buggy, from what i've seen and heard
[12:12] <vivia> [GuS] : what i did after all was to install it with a detected device : direct epson:/dev/lp0 and then change lp0 to usblp0 :@ now i am printing but i want to find a decent way to do it
[12:12] <mauri> vivia: give me a link where to send the image
[12:12] <vivia> mauri: http://imageshack.us/
[12:12] <[GuS] > yeah
[12:12] <Yendor> it does seem so dasisuke... alternatives do exist am I correct?
[12:12] <Daisuke_Laptop> i would recommend upgrading knetworkmanager if you can
[12:13] <Yendor> I am in possesion of the Kubuntu DVD so it shouldnt be a problem to install an alternative..
[12:13] <[GuS] > I do not use Epson and non other printer but HP cause of lack of support for lnx world :S
[12:13] <cody> My knetwork manager lets me connect if i disable it and reenable it but at the moment mine is bugged aswell
[12:13] <Yendor> Daisuke..well.. no connection! LOL
[12:13] <Yendor> well let me check it out.. cause its on my laptop :)
[12:14] <Daisuke_Laptop> Yendor: like cody said, you might try disabling/reenabling it...
[12:14] <Yendor> you mean the device?
[12:14] <Daisuke_Laptop> that's one of the few area's the gnome side has the kde side beat :)
[12:14] <Daisuke_Laptop> knetworkmanager
[12:14] <cody> Mine says i have no connection X_x but im still here
[12:14] <Yendor> ok lemme see what I can do
[12:14] <Daisuke_Laptop> areas*
[12:14] <Yendor> cody so its THAT buggy...tsk tsk
[12:14] <Daisuke_Laptop> it's pretty terrible
[12:14] <vivia> [GuS] : it's not epson, it's lexmark! and lexmark provides drivers, but it's not at the level of the drivers, something is wrong with cups or hplip
[12:15] <Daisuke_Laptop> lex....mark?
[12:15] <[GuS] > worst :P
[12:15] <[GuS] > yeah.. maybe
[12:15] <[GuS] > but i have not good experience with epson and lexmark on lnx...
[12:15] <[GuS] > vivia: did you check cups logs?
[12:16] <cody> Is there an alternative to knetwork manager that i might be able to use?
[12:16] <mauri> vivia: http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot2ci4.png
[12:16] <Yendor> I'm sure there is cody.. I think I saw something... let me load my kubuntu and check adept
[12:16] <cody> K thanks
[12:16] <hydrogen> theres not anything as useful
[12:16] <hydrogen> as knetworkmanager
[12:17] <hydrogen> you can use iw* on the command line
[12:17] <vivia> mauri: first, increase font size the way i told you...
[12:17] <mauri> vivia: i din't see anything
[12:17] <vivia> make it bigger
[12:18] <Yendor> well hydrogen, its not as useful if its stalled by some bug
[12:18] <cody> Ok so i tried the ./configure again and got this "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!"
[12:18] <[GuS] > damn.. thats really small fonts
[12:18] <cody> what is it talking about?
[12:18] <hydrogen> *install libx11-devel
[12:18] <vivia> mauri: select a bigger font , press OK, press Save on the preferences window, and restart amsn
[12:18] <Daisuke_Laptop> xorg-dev
[12:18] <cody> hydrogen was that directed at me?
[12:18] <hydrogen> cody: yea
[12:18] <Daisuke_Laptop> cody ^^
[12:18] <hydrogen> or xorg-dev
[12:19] <hydrogen> whatever the proper name is
[12:19] <mauri> vivia: i din't see the font mennu
[12:19] <vivia> mauri: from the login window press ctrl+p , you should see the preferences
[12:19] <Yendor> when you say disablew knetworkmanager...in which way specifically please?
[12:19] <vivia> the second tab is called appearance... on the top right there is a button to change encoding, and right below this the button to change font... second from the top
[12:19] <mauri> vivia: yes a new form is opened but i'm not able to see what is wrote in
[12:20] <vivia> mauri: it's ok, blindly go to the second tab and press the second button, trust me, it's the good one
[12:20] <Yendor> how do I connect with iwconfig please?
[12:21] <vivia> [GuS] : brb - can you help mauri?
[12:21] <[GuS] > yes
[12:21] <[GuS] > mauri:
[12:21] <Yendor> help me :'(
[12:21] <[GuS] > mauri: Go to second tab
[12:21] <mauri> [GuS] : ok
[12:21] <[GuS] > press second buttom
[12:21] <[GuS] > which is change font
[12:21] <cody> so any news on the knetworkmanager alternative
[12:22] <[GuS] > and there, change your font size
[12:22] <Daisuke_Laptop> unless yo uuse network-manager
[12:23] <Yendor> thats it!
[12:23] <Yendor> network-manager
[12:23] <Daisuke_Laptop> the thing about network-manager (and therefore knetworkmanager) is that it will only handle devices *NOT* listed in /etc/network/interfaces
[12:23] <Daisuke_Laptop> which seems a little counterintuitive to me...
[12:24] <cody> I use a wireless g linksys card soo....
[12:24] <cody> and last but not least i got this error on the ./config "
[12:24] <cody> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[12:24] <cody> For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.
[12:24] <Yendor> hmm that could be useful..hang on
[12:25] <[GuS] > mauri: do did it?
[12:26] <Daisuke_Laptop> cody: just use adept to search for the proper -dev packages
[12:26] <cody> how do i know what packages i need? Im kind of new to linux.
[12:26] <Daisuke_Laptop> that, i think, is qt3.3-dev perhaps
[12:26] <Daisuke_Laptop> headers are the -dev packages
[12:26] <cody> ok
[12:26] <Daisuke_Laptop> xorg-dev, etc
[12:27] <mauri> [GuS] : and vivia thank you very much...now it works
[12:27] <[GuS] > :)
[12:27] <vivia> np :)
[12:27] <vivia> [GuS] : good idea, i get this:  cupsdAuthorize: Local authentication certificate not found!
[12:27] <cody> Ok soo that didnt work so i tried Qt4.0-dev and still no luck
[12:28] <Yendor> how do I connect to wireless using iwconfig please?
[12:28] <cody> i tried just qt and i got alot of qt stuff
[12:29] <vivia> |GuS|: wb :)
[12:29] <cody> im going to try the one that says qt4-dev-tools
[12:29] <vivia> [GuS] : good idea, i get this:  cupsdAuthorize: Local authentication certificate not found!
[12:29] <Daisuke_Laptop> cody: no can do
[12:29] <Daisuke_Laptop> it'll end in -dev
[12:30] <cody> hmm
[12:30] <cody> then there is none
[12:30] <Daisuke_Laptop> and as ./configure said, it has to be >= 3.3 and < 4
[12:30] <|GuS|> damn
[12:30] <|GuS|> mmm
[12:30] <|GuS|> i think that is not releated of your problem
[12:30] <|GuS|> anyway, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/111038
[12:31] <|GuS|> i will check a little too
[12:31] <mauri> [GuS] : do you know also acetoneiso
[12:31] <|GuS|> mauri: never used it
[12:31] <cody> found one qt3-apps-dev
[12:31] <Daisuke_Laptop> ah ha
[12:31] <Daisuke_Laptop> libqt
[12:32] <Daisuke_Laptop> and this is one that breaks the rule, hopefully gutsy will remedy this: libqt3-headers
[12:32] <cody> already installed
[12:33] <|GuS|> brb
[12:34] <cody> ok new error
[12:34] <cody> checking for KDE... configure: error:
[12:34] <cody> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[12:34] <cody> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[12:34] <Daisuke_Laptop> same concept
[12:35] <cody> do i need to find KDE headers?
[12:35] <Daisuke_Laptop> kde*-dev
[12:35] <hydrogen> yes
[12:35] <Biovore> cody: apt-get install kde-dev
[12:35] <cody> k
[12:35] <Biovore> I think
[12:35] <hydrogen> is the package your trying to build in debian? (but juyst an older version)
[12:35] <hydrogen> err
[12:35] <Biovore> kde-devel <-- thats it..
[12:35] <hydrogen> in the repo
[12:37] <cody> got iot
[12:37] <mauri> |GuS|: ok thanks
[12:37] <cody> it