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alex_mayorgaHello, anyone can tell me how can I add packages on Debian pool to my PPA?12:57
mptGooooooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!01:00
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ubotuNew bug: #138489 in launchpad "In project "Name", Launchpad lets me type characters that it knows aren't allowed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13848901:26
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ubotuNew bug: #138490 in launchpad "approximateduration shouldn't spell out numbers <10" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13849001:31
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ubotuNew bug: #138492 in malone "Bug page says "Filed here by" when it was actually filed elsewhere" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13849201:40
mptAnywone here speak Turkish?01:42
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mpthttps://launchpad.net/deisy02:04
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ubotuNew bug: #138500 in malone "Warn if assigning a bug to someone not involved with the project" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13850002:40
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pooliempt, i agree with you about bug 13849003:32
ubotuLaunchpad bug 138490 in launchpad "approximateduration shouldn't spell out numbers <10" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13849003:32
pooliei got an oops timeout trying to file a new bug, OOPS-618D7903:33
ubotuhttps://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/618D7903:33
poolieand again.03:34
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ubotuNew bug: #138504 in launchpad "confirmation before assigning bugs to unlikely people" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13850403:45
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mptpoolie, I'm sorry, I reported that bug an hour earlier :-] 03:55
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mptah, you've seen it03:56
mptso I guess it depends on whether you think they're the same bug03:57
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MFeni don't suppose there are any migration tools from e.g. berlios/sourceforget to launchpad?04:07
poolieMFen, i don't know if there's a tool but I think people in this channel can help04:10
poolieor send mail to launchpad-users 04:10
pooliempt, you already filed a dupe of bug138504?04:10
MFenit's not a very big project.  there's probably about 10 bugs in it and an svn tree04:10
MFenit's probably just the bugs i want to migrate04:10
jameshMFen: we can migrate sourceforge.net bugs04:10
jameshI don't know about berlios04:11
MFensame cms type thing04:11
jameshs/same/similar/04:11
MFen(when it's up.. sheesh)04:11
jameshMFen: if you are willing to do a bit of work to convert the bug reports to our interchange format, I can probably do the import04:13
jameshI can provide you details of the interchange format if  you are interested04:14
MFenjamesh: it'll be faster to do it by hand, i'm sure04:14
jameshMFen: as for the Subversion tree, there are a few options here04:14
MFenactually, i was misremembering when i said that (too many projects in my head).. i've already migrated the svn to mercurial04:15
jameshMFen: okay.  If you are interested in switching to bazaar (the only VCS Launchpad provides hosting for), https://launchpad.net/bzr-hg might be useful04:16
MFeni'm not. i'm extremely happy with mercurial04:16
MFenthe integration with the bug tracking/history whatevers is frankly not interesting to me04:17
jameshfair enough.04:18
MFenjamesh: i would like to know, though how you make a super-project04:22
jameshMFen: at the moment you need to ask an administrator (asking a question at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad should do).04:22
jameshMFen: if you need one, they'll create it for you04:23
MFenjamesh: ok, sounds good04:24
jameshMFen: previously we had lots of people creating super-projects where it wasn't appropriate, which just confused matters04:25
MFenah04:25
jamesh(in most cases, a simple project did everything they needed)04:25
MFenwell i've already got two and in the process of creating a third project04:25
jameshso it sounds like you have a valid use for one04:26
jameshthere should be no problem getting it added04:26
MFenunless there's a better way to organize things? one of the projects is actually an application framework04:27
MFeni'd like applications built with it, if they appear on launchpad, to be able to connect to it or cobrand somehow04:28
MFenthe other two are basically applications of that one04:28
MFenbut.. i don't really know what you *use* super-projects for :)04:28
pooliefor example, bazaar is a superproject 04:29
pooliecontaining the tool itself, and all the plugins as subprojects04:30
pooliehttps://launchpad.net/bazaar04:30
MFenok, but what functionality does the container get you?04:30
mptpoolie, you linked to it in your subsequent comment on your bug report. :-)04:35
poolieuh04:36
pooliei thought i filed that one04:36
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pooliei filed 13850404:36
jameshMFen: (a) you can view bugs across all projects in the group, (b) there is a group +filebug form, (c) there are some translation access controls that work based on the project group04:37
jameshthere are a few others04:37
MFenhmm04:37
MFenview bugs across all projects would be useful04:38
MFenthe rest not so much04:38
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MFenargh04:43
MFenhow do you delete a series? :)04:43
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thumperMFen: delete?05:15
thumperMFen: LP has historically been bad at allowing people to undo mistakes05:16
thumperbut it is getting better05:16
thumperMFen: seriously though, I'm not sure you can05:16
mptpoolie, into 138504 you pasted this text from me: "...For fixing the problem when it does occur, Launchpad could warn you on the resulting page but *not* require you to confirm it. Then if it's not what you meant, you can fix it. <http://launchpad.net/bugs/138500>..."05:32
ubotuLaunchpad bug 138500 in malone "Warn if assigning a bug to someone not involved with the project" [Undecided,New]  05:32
pooliempt, we could do something similar when marking duplicates05:36
poolieif we don't already05:36
mptWell, sure, we need more "Undo" buttons all over Launchpad05:36
mptI'm not sure how to solve the "people will think they've caused spam already" problem, but I don't think that's a reason to interrupt them with a confirmation instead05:38
mpthttp://alistapart.com/articles/neveruseawarning05:38
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poolieheh05:40
pooliei agree with the principle05:40
mptbzr commit && bzr undo -> bzr uncommit05:40
mptbzr merge && bzr undo -> bzr revert05:40
mptbzr push && bzr undo -> ??05:40
jameshmpt: gets tricky if you perform operations on a branch from multiple terminals05:51
jameshmpt: e.g. Terminal 1: bzr merge, Terminal 2: bzr commit, Terminal 1: bzr undo05:51
mptyeah05:52
jameshmpt: or "bzr something; cd some-other-branch; bzr undo"05:53
jameshdoes the undo track the session or the branch?05:53
mpt"bzr undo" would track the branch", "undo" by itself would track the session :->05:54
MFenthumper: crud.05:54
mpt(the latter being even less possible than the former)05:54
jameshmpt: rewindable desktops!05:54
jamesh</bowie-j-poag>05:55
mptI've read that name before somewhere05:58
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mptah, http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2002-December/msg00269.html06:04
mptcf. http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/features/timemachine.html06:06
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jameshI'm not sure why "remembers how your system looked on any given day" makes it different from any other software that provides daily incremental backups ...06:10
mptIt's the UI, the UI, the UI.06:13
jameshI am sure it has a nice UI, but the text seems to imply that other backup software can't let you restore files as they existed on particular days in the past06:14
mptBy now I must have seen half a dozen attempts by developers to design an Ubuntu equivalent of Time Machine, and they're all, "We'll add an item to Nautilus's context menu for files" ...06:15
mptmissing the point entirely06:15
jameshyep.06:15
jameshfor a start, what do you right click on to recover a file you accidentally deleted? :)06:16
mptexactly06:16
mptand how do you know which is the last version of the file/folder that contains the stuff you want?06:16
mptwithout actually seeing it?06:16
jameshyeah06:17
jameshwhat you really want is a big rewind button on the panel06:17
jamesh:)06:17
mptThat would be one way of presenting it, though perhaps over-prominent given how rarely it would be used.06:18
jameshmpt: if you're wondering about the response to Bowie's suggestion in the mailing list archives, note that this wasn't his first correspondence06:19
mptI guessed as much :-)06:19
mptI don't think Apple's design is particularly good, though, because it means there are three different ways of going back to previous versions: Edit > Undo, File > Revert, and Time Machine.06:20
jameshThis is related to the first idea he brought forward: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/303906:20
mptoh!06:21
mpt*That*'s where I know his name from06:21
jameshwe actually implemented it in the platform libraries before finding it useless06:21
mptI remember that article being linked to from Slashdot06:21
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jimmacdonaldwhere is the shipit status page?06:40
jameshhttps://shipit.ubuntu.com/ ?06:40
jimmacdonaldyeah thanks.06:47
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wfarrabout how long does it take on average for uploaded packages to show in "currently building" for PPA's?07:29
jameshwfarr: it'd be highly dependent on how many other packages are queued07:30
wfarrjamesh, but after about 5 minutes, shouldn't it at least show under "Needs building"?07:31
wfarrI got the "Accepted" email from Launchpad PPA nearly 10 minutes ago07:33
jameshwfarr: you'll probably need to wait for some of the soyuz guys to wake up07:33
wfarrk07:33
jameshhttps://launchpad.net/+builds/samarium <- looks like the x86 builder is idle07:34
wfarrinteresting07:34
wfarrmight be for routine maintenance or something though - last build ended only 12 minutes back07:35
Fujitsuwfarr: It should start building within a few minutes. The source will be accepted on the 5-minutely job after you upload it, then published on the next 20-minutely job (ie. about 2 minutes), then given builds a few minutes after that.07:42
FujitsuErm, about 2 minutes ago, that should be.07:42
wfarrok - thanks Fujitsu 07:42
FujitsuThe binaries won't be available until the */20 after they finish building.07:43
wfarrand there she goes07:44
FujitsuOnce the builds are listed, buildds should pick them up within a couple of minutes.07:44
wfarrk07:44
wfarrnow to wait for the binaries07:44
wfarrthe PPA's make my life easy since my laptop cannot realistically compile large projects like Emacs07:46
wfarrso having the PPA's let me build packages I otherwise couldn't07:46
jameshwfarr: and you don't need to manage chroots for each architecture/distro :)07:49
wfarrthat was the easy part ;)07:49
wfarrhaving a laptop that overheats on any compile besides smaller projects07:49
wfarrwas the real pain07:49
jameshor worry that your builds will end up depending on some quirk of your development system07:49
wfarrjamesh, that's what pbuilder was for ;)07:50
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wfarrblah08:02
wfarrmy packages failed to build =(08:02
Fujitsuwfarr: Wow, your clock is rather fast, but that doesn't look like what broke it.08:03
wfarrno08:04
wfarrpatches didn't apply cleanly it seems08:04
wfarrwhich means another half hour uploading a fixed package :X08:04
FujitsuNo, you won't have to upload the .orig.tar.gz again.08:05
wfarreven if I change debian folder to not apply some patches?08:06
FujitsuThat's in the .diff.gz.08:06
superm1wfarr, the debian folder is in the .diff.gz08:06
wfarrkk =008:06
wfarr=) **08:06
superm1so unless its debian native08:06
superm1you won't need to 08:06
superm1just remember to build the source package with 'debuild -S' rather than 'debuild -S -sa' to not include the .orig.tar.gz in the upload08:07
wfarrkk08:07
superm1also note you'll need to bump the ppa version number when you re-upload, so probably ~ppa2 now08:07
superm1its a good idea to try the builds locally first generally, to make sure that things will build right when you put it on the ppa08:07
superm1rather than having to reupload, and bump version numbers over and over08:07
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ubotuNew bug: #138545 in malone "Option for project bug listing to include bugs in project's packages" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13854510:00
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AlinuxOShello all, danilos is it normal that https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/nautilus/+imports nautilus(ka.po) isn't still imported ? :)10:27
danilosAlinuxOS: yes, if you look at https://translations.launchpad.net/+imports/+index?field.filter_target=ubuntu/gutsy&field.filter_status=APPROVED&field.filter_extension=all you can see we've got ~1911 entries to import for Gutsy10:29
danilosAlinuxOS: and we are currently processing those from September 4th, so your entry should probably get in today or tomorrow10:29
AlinuxOS:)10:30
AlinuxOSdanilos, why so long time?10:30
AlinuxOSwhy not improve this ? :)10:31
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danilosAlinuxOS: well, we are improving it all the times, but there are other things to improve as well...10:32
AlinuxOSah... ok :)10:32
AlinuxOSbecause some imports need really loong time..sometimes weeks :)10:33
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danilosAlinuxOS: yeah, we are aware of that, but that happens only when we get a lot of Ubuntu packages at the same time (like GNOME and OpenOffice.org update at the same time)10:35
danilosAlinuxOS: but, we'll fix it soon enough, I hope... and the easier fix is to actually just prioritise human uploads10:35
AlinuxOSdanilos, I understand.10:36
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YokoZar_When I file a bug I can only select what package it affects at the time of file - I can't specify it after I file the bug :(11:45
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YokoZar_So I know my bug affects gnome-chess but it's stuck at "Ubuntu" (no package specified)11:45
pochuYokoZar_: click on the arrow near Importance or Status, and then change the package.11:46
YokoZar_pochu: That's an arrow?  Hmm... that part is a little too hidden11:47
YokoZar_pochu: still, thanks11:48
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pochuYokoZar_: it's been changed recently... if you think it's not clear, file a bug :-)11:51
YokoZar_So, where do I file a bug in launchpad itself?11:51
YokoZar_pochu: I went to the top page and clicked report bug but couldn't find a launchpad in there.11:51
pochuYokoZar_: launchpad.net/launchpad for the general launchpad, and launchpad.net/malone for the bugtracker11:52
YokoZar_ty11:52
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AlinuxOSdanilos, sorry for disturbing, I was thinking about "confirmed terms" dictionary integration with launchpad...11:59
AlinuxOSis it in program enywhere?11:59
AlinuxOSteminology dictionary... or something similar.11:59
jtvAlinuxOS: we have one somewhere, just a moment12:01
jtvAlinuxOS: oh wait, do you mean for translation?  Or as documentation for Launchpad itself?12:03
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AlinuxOSjtv, something that terms list.12:04
AlinuxOSor translation memory, transformed in a standard term list.12:05
jtvAlinuxOS: so, for translation...  Many people have proposed that, and we are working on some things to make that easier.  But for now, it's something that should be agreed with other translators, maybe on a wiki somewhere.12:06
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jtvAlinuxOS: if you look at the blueprints for rosetta, you'll see several proposals.12:10
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ubotuNew bug: #138592 in malone "Bug notifications have personal To: header but aren't personal" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13859212:46
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kikodupe!12:51
AlinuxOSjtv, thank you!12:53
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AlinuxOSIt's really useful feature.12:53
AlinuxOSjtv, implement something similar & dynamic, will improve translation quality.12:53
jtvAlinuxOS: we know, but there's so much work to do first!  :)01:01
AlinuxOS:)01:01
mptkiko, do you really think bug 44 is Medium?01:05
ubotuLaunchpad bug 44 in rosetta "Translations should be searchable" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/44 - Assigned to   (danilo)01:05
kikompt, hmmmmm.01:05
kikompt, well, we do have half a workaround01:05
daniloswell, I'll probably just go with stub's proposal to use table partitioning, because his major concern is growing database size with adding a FT index01:07
danilos(of course, provided LIKE performs as well on those subtables as it does on pomsgid table in my experiments)01:08
mptkiko, how important something is is independent of what other work it depends on, IMO01:08
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mptWhat would be cool, if/when we get bug dependencies, is Launchpad saying "hey, this is marked Critical but it depends on something else that is only Medium"01:09
mpt"That ain't right"01:09
mptI suppose Blueprint could do that sort of thing right now01:09
jameshdetecting priority inversion01:13
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Kuhrschercarlos, danilos: Hi, for the new introduced app (Tribe5?) "kdesudo" there is no translation template in Rosetta. 01:19
Kuhrschercarlos, danilos: Do I have to file a bug agains Rosetta for this issue?01:19
danilosKuhrscher: more likely a bug in kdesudo package01:20
danilosKuhrscher: (I see nothing in https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/kdesudo/+imports)01:21
KuhrscherHmm, the source inlcudes a pot file and a french translation...01:21
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danilosKuhrscher: ah, it probably just changed from universe to main, or something like that, right?01:22
carlosdanilos: yeah, that's it01:22
carlosI just checked it01:22
danilosKuhrscher: if that's the case, we require a package rebuild01:22
carlosKuhrscher: a new package build will introduce those translations01:22
carloshttps://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdesudo/01:22
Kuhrschercarlos, Thanks. Do I have to ask someone for this?01:23
carlosKuhrscher: anyway, if you request such rebuild, note that the .pot file must be regenerated on build time to be sure that we get latest messages to translate01:23
carlosKuhrscher: package maintainers or wait for next package update01:24
carlosI guess we should add such procedure to package movement from universe to main as a policy01:24
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Kuhrschercarlos: thanks, btw. Kmplayer still doesn't get translated by the langpacks although it is back in main for some month...01:24
KuhrscherSame issue?01:25
carlosKuhrscher: not sure, language packs didn't get an update since start of this month so maybe is just that01:25
Kuhrschercarlos: it came back to main August 4th...01:26
KuhrscherBtw. shpuld not there be daily langpacks? I though I read something like that...01:27
carlosyeah, but the build infrastructure had some problems and Martin Pitt was out to fix it01:28
carloshe came back today, so I hope it will be fixed this week01:29
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carlosKuhrscher: seems like is not trivial to rebuild the package when it's moved to main01:30
carlosso that procedure will have a small delay until that's fixed01:30
carlosit just means that will take some extra days until you can translate it with launchpad01:30
Kuhrschercarlos: Nothing for a fix it friday? :)01:30
carloswell, that's outside the scope of Launchpad Translations01:31
carlosso no idea :-)01:31
Kuhrschercarlos: I checked mplayer again. There are 2 templates for it in Rosetta, but no *.mo file in the langpack01:31
Kuhrschercarlos: Ok, the langpack is from August 3rd01:32
carlosthat's it then.01:32
Kuhrscherprobably ;-)01:32
KuhrscherYou don't know when we will get a newer langpack?01:34
carlostalking with Martin pitt about that01:34
carlosKuhrscher: Martin did an upload today01:35
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KuhrscherAh, great.01:36
Kuhrscher:)01:36
carlosKuhrscher: and seems like it will be updated every Wednesday from now01:36
KuhrscherGood news.01:36
carlosKuhrscher: although the data is from last Wednesday (seems like I broke something :-P) next Wednesday will have a more up to date version01:37
Kuhrscherok ;-)01:37
Kuhrscherok, bye01:43
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Kuhrschercarlos, danilos: One last question. Are there any issues with the import queue atm?01:53
KuhrscherMy last upload took about 11 days?01:54
carlosKuhrscher: we are finishing catching up with a huge queue01:54
carloswe have a performance problem with OO.org imports01:54
carlosand we got three different versions01:54
carlosour backlog now is 5 days01:54
carlosand I expect it will catch up before the end of this week01:55
carlosmaybe earlier01:55
Kuhrschercarlos: Ah, ok. And how could I avoid a review of an uploaded po file?01:55
KuhrscherThanks01:55
carlosKuhrscher: for ubuntu, you should not need such review01:55
carlosit's done automatically01:55
carloseven if its initial status is 'Needs review'01:55
KuhrscherAh, ok.01:56
carlosit will change automatically to Approved and then imported01:56
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KuhrscherOk, thank you. No more questions for now ;-)01:56
carlosok :-)01:57
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stone-unixwhere should i report a bug of launchpad itself? occur when i doing english to chinese translation online02:11
Fujitsustone-unix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/rosetta/+filebug02:12
stone-unixFujitsu: ok, great. i will go there and report. thanks02:13
intellectronicastone-unix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/rosetta/02:13
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ubotuNew bug: #138618 in launchpad "Unexpected form data" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13861802:26
ubotuNew bug: #138620 in soyuz "change-override.py -S doesn't move binaries with different names from source" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13862002:31
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stone-unixok, i just reported the bug, 13861802:31
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ubotuNew bug: #138623 in rosetta "Unexpected form data" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13862302:40
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Le-Chuck_ITAHi all03:23
Le-Chuck_ITAmrevell: I am looking forward to join the launchpad-beta-testers team, ahem :)03:24
Le-Chuck_ITAI will have to wait a little more it seems :) 03:32
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mrevellLe-Chuck_ITA: Sorry, was on a call. I'll post this for anyone else who's reading, even though you've left the channel: we're making a change to the beta team later today, so that beta testers get redirected to our edge server .I'm waiting for that to happen, so I can tell new beta testers, before I approve anyone else. Thanks.03:37
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Hobbseehe's still online, so i wonder why he left...03:41
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ignashi04:06
ignaswhere do i submit bug reports/ feature requests for launchpad / bzr branch handling (namely mailing list support)04:07
kikoignas, what sort of mailing list support?04:10
ignassimple small things04:10
ignaslike - would it be possible ot have a revision number/id in the subject04:11
ignasso that emails would not be threaded04:11
kikoah04:11
ignasand have a name like "Launchpad checkins" instead of noreply@...04:11
kikolaunchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar04:11
ignasthanks04:12
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pgquileswhat's the fqdn to use the PPA in edge? upload.edge.launchpad.net and upload.launchpad.net do not work, and dogfood seems not to build anymore :-?04:44
lagafqdn = ppa.launchpad.net04:44
kiko-fudas the docs state. :)04:45
pgquileslaga: thank you04:47
pgquileskiko-fud: where are the docs for edge.launchpad.net?04:48
kiko-fudpgquiles, I'm not sure I understand. edge has no specific documentation. I was referring to the PPA docs!04:48
pgquileskiko-fud: let's hope uploading to ppa.launchpad.net makes my stuff show on edge.launchpad.net04:49
kiko-fudpgquiles, it will. edge uses the same database as launchpad.04:50
pgquileskiko-fud: ok04:50
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ignasi have just accidentally subscribed some poor soul to my branch05:23
ignashow do i unsubscribe him?05:23
ignasi can only see edit buttons near subscriptions i have permission to change05:24
ignasso apparently i can subscribe anyone, but i can't unsubscribe them after that05:24
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LaserJockcprov-lunch: can you be available at 15:00 or 16:00 UTC on Wednesday06:00
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AlinuxOSdanilos, 06:09
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AlinuxOSmsgfmt -cv ka.po -o /dev/null 06:12
AlinuxOSka.po:3347: end-of-line within string06:12
AlinuxOSmsgfmt: found 1 fatal error06:12
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AlinuxOSI got this error every time06:12
AlinuxOSeven I have no strange things on that line06:12
AlinuxOScan anyone help me ?06:12
AlinuxOSops06:14
AlinuxOSstragely fixed!06:15
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ignasis it possible to assign some email for a team in launchpad?06:28
Hobbseeyes06:29
Hobbseeas in, you want to set a team contact address, or get some bugmail, etc, sent to all members of the team?06:29
ignasi want bzr checkins sent to the checkin mailing list of my team06:29
ignasso we could reply to them, and every team member would see the comments06:30
Hobbseeie, subscribing to a branch?  or a whole project, maybe...06:30
ignasat least a branch06:30
ignasat the moment it seems that every member gets an email if a team is subscribed (i hope, as i am testing that at the moment)06:31
Hobbseeyes06:31
ignasbut the from email is noreply, and to email is my personal email06:31
Hobbseeyou can set the team email to be the ML though06:31
ignasso i have no easy way to comment on that change so other team members would see it06:31
Hobbseewhich presumably everyone subscribes to06:32
ignasok, i'll ask the team leader to do that06:32
ignaswill i get a bounce if i will accidentally reply to the checkin email with "reply to all"?06:32
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Hobbseeunsure06:33
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ignasit would be kind of nice to have that email set to "whoami" data of the checkin06:35
ignasinstead of noreply@launchpad.net06:35
bdmurrayI was submitting a new bug report and was shown bug 86701 as a "my bug" candidate, yet while 86701 is new it is a duplicate of bug 3797 which is Fix Released.  Does anyone know if either issue has been reported?06:36
ubotuLaunchpad bug 86701 in malone "the X-launchpad-bug header is missing information, why I got the mail (dup-of: 3797)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8670106:36
ubotuLaunchpad bug 3797 in malone "Bug mails should explain why the person is getting emailed." [High,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/3797 - Assigned to Christian Reis (kiko)06:36
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ubotuNew bug: #138696 in malone "bug tags do not appear in e-mail headers" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13869606:40
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ignasif only someone would add a mailing list for every single branch registered in launchpad, so emails comming from branches would be not from noreply, but from the mailing list for the branch.06:46
ignasAnd any emails sent to the branch would get sent to all subscribers of the branch.06:46
ignasShould not be too difficult as there already is something like a mailing list for every bug in launchpad.06:47
ignasSo you'd only need unique id's for every branch in launchpad ...06:47
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ianm1what's the best way to do an anonymous checkout from launchpad bzr?06:50
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ignasbzr get "http://code.launchpad.net/..." --lightweight06:58
ignasif you only need the code06:58
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charlieghow do i register a team?07:05
charliegit's really, really not very obvious07:05
synicwhere can I see a list of changes for Edge?07:05
ubotuNew bug: #138701 in malone "Help text for /bugs/+filebug" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13870107:05
LaserJockcharlieg: go to https://launchpad.net/people/07:07
LaserJockcharlieg: there is a link on the left for "Register a new team"07:07
LaserJocksynic: you mean edge.launchpad.net?07:08
synicyeah07:08
LaserJockI don't think there is a specific list, but https://edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-project/+milestone/1.1.9 might give you an idea07:08
synick07:09
LaserJockI think stuff that's "Fix Released" and "Fix Committed" would be on edge07:09
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Ngcan beta testers elect to not necessarily be redirected to edge all the time?07:18
LaserJockyou can change it temporarily07:19
LaserJockif you go to the main Launchpad page07:19
LaserJockthere is a "Disable for 2 hrs" button07:19
NgI'm looking at edge.lp.net and I don't have that (I remember that being there the last time this was done)07:19
sorenNg: nono, launchpad.net07:20
Ngaha, good point07:20
sorenIt's the "real" launchpad that has to not redirect you :)07:20
Ngyeah07:20
NgI'd like to be able to disable my inverted ducky more indefinitely, but this'll do :)07:20
Ngooh, it's a rocketship now07:21
charliegthanks!07:22
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Odd_Blokemrevell: 'Am I on a list of beta test applicants somewhere?'-related ping.07:28
`23megis it impossible to remove an accidentally added affected distro/package from a bug?07:30
LaserJockpretty much07:30
LaserJockyou can retarget07:30
LaserJockI think07:31
`23megdoesn't seem possible07:32
LaserJockwhat's the bug #?07:33
`23meghttps://bugs.launchpad.net/baltix/+source/nautilus/+bug/1319907:33
ubotuLaunchpad bug 13199 in file-roller "Drag n' Drop directories from File-Roller is somewhat tricky" [High,Confirmed]   - Assigned to Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs)07:33
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LaserJockwhich one are you trying to remove?07:33
`23megbaltix07:33
LaserJockhmm, I'd rather baltix people messed around with their tasks, but you could mark it as "Invalid" to sort of get rid of it07:35
AlinuxOSwhen I get to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/gnome-control-center/+imports , I got OOPS-618B142607:35
ubotuhttps://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/618B142607:35
`23megI think I'll have to do so07:35
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LaserJockLP bug for what?07:36
`23megno way to remove affected packages07:36
LaserJockI *think* that is by design, but I'm not sure07:37
`23megme neither :)07:37
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geseris https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/91426/+activity for others also to wide for layout?08:47
ubotuLaunchpad bug 91426 in human-icon-theme "human-icon-theme missing gnome-dev-media-sdmmc.png" [Undecided,Fix committed]  08:47
LaserJockI gotta scroll a little bit, but it's not bad08:48
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geserscroll only vertically or also horizontally?08:49
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geserfor me the message column is off-screen08:50
LaserJockhorizontally08:52
LaserJockif I maximize the window it all fits in horizontally08:52
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geserhttp://members.ping.de/~mb/Screenshot.png and firefox is already maximized08:55
LaserJockmines a bit better than that, but it is pretty wide08:56
geserthe other activity logs I checked all fit into the window08:58
geserso I wonder if I should a bug report it or not08:58
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dcm_how does one make a new project a "super-project"?09:11
dcm_or "project group" - whatever its called09:12
zzornemail the admins, I think09:12
dcm_oh - really? hmmm09:12
Odd_Blokedcm_: I think asking a Question in the Launchpad project is the way to go.09:15
dcm_Odd_Bloke: ah - right, OK thanks09:16
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pochudanilos, carlos: tracker isn't actually translatable, but it seems the templates are waiting in the queue: https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/tracker/+imports . Is that Ok, or is there any problem? It seems they have been there for a month.10:30
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danilospochu: that means we need to manually approve them: we'll slowly get to it10:31
carlospochu: the source package needs to be updated to generate the .pot file10:31
carlosdanilos: it lacks the .pot file10:31
daniloscarlos: ah, indeed10:32
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carlospochu: you can read more about it on https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/beagle/+bug/10421910:32
ubotuLaunchpad bug 104219 in beagle "Translation template was not imported to Feisty" [Undecided,Confirmed]   - Assigned to Kevin Kubasik (kkubasik)10:33
carlosbeagle has the same problem10:33
LaserJockkiko-afk: ping me when you have a minute10:33
pochucarlos: cool, thanks a lot10:33
kiko-afkLaserJock, I have physio in a minute. what's up? :)10:33
carlosnp10:35
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carlosgood night!10:58
pwnguinwhich product does one report bugs against ppas on?10:58
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salgadopwnguin, soyuz10:58
pwnguinthanks10:59
mptGoooooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!11:00
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mptThe sun never sets on the Launchpad Empire11:01
pwnguinguess someone else already filed it =/ six months ago =(11:02
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LaserJockpwnguin: what's the problem?11:03
pwnguinLaserJock: just a strange default with the build records11:17
pwnguinmaybe i just dont package big things, but ive never actually caught a packing "building"11:17
pwnguini'd personally prefer a "all states" view of package builds, but if that's too costly then at least something like finished11:18
LaserJockpwnguin: ah, yeah11:20
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pwnguinits just annoying to click twice because "currently building" was the alphabetically first in the drop down menu11:20
ubotuNew bug: #138758 in malone ""If you wish report it..., you must log in first"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13875811:25
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bdmurrayWhat is being testing on on edge now?11:34
Kmosbdmurray: the next LP version.. 1.1.911:35
bdmurrayKmos: Do you know where the list of new features is?11:36
Kmosbdmurray: i don't think they're available before the release.. ask on launchpad-users ML.11:39
Kmoshttp://news.launchpad.net/11:39
Kmosthe blog doesn't have anything11:39
LaserJockbdmurray: https://launchpad.net/launchpad-project/+milestone/1.1.9 ?11:39
Kmosthat's it11:40
bdmurrayHmm, that isn't as helpful as I would have hoped11:45
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ymlHello goodevening launchpaders,11:51
ymlIs there a way to force launchpad to "refresh" after a bzr push?11:52
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mdkedanilos: i need your help with something; you're not around by any chance?12:10
mdkedanilos: emailed :)12:21
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