[12:57] <alex_mayorga> Hello, anyone can tell me how can I add packages on Debian pool to my PPA?
[01:00] <mpt> Gooooooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!
[01:26] <ubotu> New bug: #138489 in launchpad "In project "Name", Launchpad lets me type characters that it knows aren't allowed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138489
[01:31] <ubotu> New bug: #138490 in launchpad "approximateduration shouldn't spell out numbers <10" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138490
[01:40] <ubotu> New bug: #138492 in malone "Bug page says "Filed here by" when it was actually filed elsewhere" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138492
[01:42] <mpt> Anywone here speak Turkish?
[02:04] <mpt> https://launchpad.net/deisy
[02:40] <ubotu> New bug: #138500 in malone "Warn if assigning a bug to someone not involved with the project" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138500
[03:32] <poolie> mpt, i agree with you about bug 138490
[03:32] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 138490 in launchpad "approximateduration shouldn't spell out numbers <10" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138490
[03:33] <poolie> i got an oops timeout trying to file a new bug, OOPS-618D79
[03:33] <ubotu> https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/618D79
[03:34] <poolie> and again.
[03:45] <ubotu> New bug: #138504 in launchpad "confirmation before assigning bugs to unlikely people" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138504
[03:55] <mpt> poolie, I'm sorry, I reported that bug an hour earlier :-] 
[03:56] <mpt> ah, you've seen it
[03:57] <mpt> so I guess it depends on whether you think they're the same bug
[04:07] <MFen> i don't suppose there are any migration tools from e.g. berlios/sourceforget to launchpad?
[04:10] <poolie> MFen, i don't know if there's a tool but I think people in this channel can help
[04:10] <poolie> or send mail to launchpad-users 
[04:10] <poolie> mpt, you already filed a dupe of bug138504?
[04:10] <MFen> it's not a very big project.  there's probably about 10 bugs in it and an svn tree
[04:10] <MFen> it's probably just the bugs i want to migrate
[04:10] <jamesh> MFen: we can migrate sourceforge.net bugs
[04:11] <jamesh> I don't know about berlios
[04:11] <MFen> same cms type thing
[04:11] <jamesh> s/same/similar/
[04:11] <MFen> (when it's up.. sheesh)
[04:13] <jamesh> MFen: if you are willing to do a bit of work to convert the bug reports to our interchange format, I can probably do the import
[04:14] <jamesh> I can provide you details of the interchange format if  you are interested
[04:14] <MFen> jamesh: it'll be faster to do it by hand, i'm sure
[04:14] <jamesh> MFen: as for the Subversion tree, there are a few options here
[04:15] <MFen> actually, i was misremembering when i said that (too many projects in my head).. i've already migrated the svn to mercurial
[04:16] <jamesh> MFen: okay.  If you are interested in switching to bazaar (the only VCS Launchpad provides hosting for), https://launchpad.net/bzr-hg might be useful
[04:16] <MFen> i'm not. i'm extremely happy with mercurial
[04:17] <MFen> the integration with the bug tracking/history whatevers is frankly not interesting to me
[04:18] <jamesh> fair enough.
[04:22] <MFen> jamesh: i would like to know, though how you make a super-project
[04:22] <jamesh> MFen: at the moment you need to ask an administrator (asking a question at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad should do).
[04:23] <jamesh> MFen: if you need one, they'll create it for you
[04:24] <MFen> jamesh: ok, sounds good
[04:25] <jamesh> MFen: previously we had lots of people creating super-projects where it wasn't appropriate, which just confused matters
[04:25] <MFen> ah
[04:25] <jamesh> (in most cases, a simple project did everything they needed)
[04:25] <MFen> well i've already got two and in the process of creating a third project
[04:26] <jamesh> so it sounds like you have a valid use for one
[04:26] <jamesh> there should be no problem getting it added
[04:27] <MFen> unless there's a better way to organize things? one of the projects is actually an application framework
[04:28] <MFen> i'd like applications built with it, if they appear on launchpad, to be able to connect to it or cobrand somehow
[04:28] <MFen> the other two are basically applications of that one
[04:28] <MFen> but.. i don't really know what you *use* super-projects for :)
[04:29] <poolie> for example, bazaar is a superproject 
[04:30] <poolie> containing the tool itself, and all the plugins as subprojects
[04:30] <poolie> https://launchpad.net/bazaar
[04:30] <MFen> ok, but what functionality does the container get you?
[04:35] <mpt> poolie, you linked to it in your subsequent comment on your bug report. :-)
[04:36] <poolie> uh
[04:36] <poolie> i thought i filed that one
[04:36] <poolie> i filed 138504
[04:37] <jamesh> MFen: (a) you can view bugs across all projects in the group, (b) there is a group +filebug form, (c) there are some translation access controls that work based on the project group
[04:37] <jamesh> there are a few others
[04:37] <MFen> hmm
[04:38] <MFen> view bugs across all projects would be useful
[04:38] <MFen> the rest not so much
[04:43] <MFen> argh
[04:43] <MFen> how do you delete a series? :)
[05:15] <thumper> MFen: delete?
[05:16] <thumper> MFen: LP has historically been bad at allowing people to undo mistakes
[05:16] <thumper> but it is getting better
[05:16] <thumper> MFen: seriously though, I'm not sure you can
[05:32] <mpt> poolie, into 138504 you pasted this text from me: "...For fixing the problem when it does occur, Launchpad could warn you on the resulting page but *not* require you to confirm it. Then if it's not what you meant, you can fix it. <http://launchpad.net/bugs/138500>..."
[05:32] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 138500 in malone "Warn if assigning a bug to someone not involved with the project" [Undecided,New]  
[05:36] <poolie> mpt, we could do something similar when marking duplicates
[05:36] <poolie> if we don't already
[05:36] <mpt> Well, sure, we need more "Undo" buttons all over Launchpad
[05:38] <mpt> I'm not sure how to solve the "people will think they've caused spam already" problem, but I don't think that's a reason to interrupt them with a confirmation instead
[05:38] <mpt> http://alistapart.com/articles/neveruseawarning
[05:40] <poolie> heh
[05:40] <poolie> i agree with the principle
[05:40] <mpt> bzr commit && bzr undo -> bzr uncommit
[05:40] <mpt> bzr merge && bzr undo -> bzr revert
[05:40] <mpt> bzr push && bzr undo -> ??
[05:51] <jamesh> mpt: gets tricky if you perform operations on a branch from multiple terminals
[05:51] <jamesh> mpt: e.g. Terminal 1: bzr merge, Terminal 2: bzr commit, Terminal 1: bzr undo
[05:52] <mpt> yeah
[05:53] <jamesh> mpt: or "bzr something; cd some-other-branch; bzr undo"
[05:53] <jamesh> does the undo track the session or the branch?
[05:54] <mpt> "bzr undo" would track the branch", "undo" by itself would track the session :->
[05:54] <MFen> thumper: crud.
[05:54] <mpt> (the latter being even less possible than the former)
[05:54] <jamesh> mpt: rewindable desktops!
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[05:58] <mpt> I've read that name before somewhere
[06:04] <mpt> ah, http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2002-December/msg00269.html
[06:06] <mpt> cf. http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/features/timemachine.html
[06:10] <jamesh> I'm not sure why "remembers how your system looked on any given day" makes it different from any other software that provides daily incremental backups ...
[06:13] <mpt> It's the UI, the UI, the UI.
[06:14] <jamesh> I am sure it has a nice UI, but the text seems to imply that other backup software can't let you restore files as they existed on particular days in the past
[06:15] <mpt> By now I must have seen half a dozen attempts by developers to design an Ubuntu equivalent of Time Machine, and they're all, "We'll add an item to Nautilus's context menu for files" ...
[06:15] <mpt> missing the point entirely
[06:15] <jamesh> yep.
[06:16] <jamesh> for a start, what do you right click on to recover a file you accidentally deleted? :)
[06:16] <mpt> exactly
[06:16] <mpt> and how do you know which is the last version of the file/folder that contains the stuff you want?
[06:16] <mpt> without actually seeing it?
[06:17] <jamesh> yeah
[06:17] <jamesh> what you really want is a big rewind button on the panel
[06:17] <jamesh> :)
[06:18] <mpt> That would be one way of presenting it, though perhaps over-prominent given how rarely it would be used.
[06:19] <jamesh> mpt: if you're wondering about the response to Bowie's suggestion in the mailing list archives, note that this wasn't his first correspondence
[06:19] <mpt> I guessed as much :-)
[06:20] <mpt> I don't think Apple's design is particularly good, though, because it means there are three different ways of going back to previous versions: Edit > Undo, File > Revert, and Time Machine.
[06:20] <jamesh> This is related to the first idea he brought forward: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/3039
[06:21] <mpt> oh!
[06:21] <mpt> *That*'s where I know his name from
[06:21] <jamesh> we actually implemented it in the platform libraries before finding it useless
[06:21] <mpt> I remember that article being linked to from Slashdot
[06:40] <jimmacdonald> where is the shipit status page?
[06:40] <jamesh> https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ ?
[06:47] <jimmacdonald> yeah thanks.
[07:29] <wfarr> about how long does it take on average for uploaded packages to show in "currently building" for PPA's?
[07:30] <jamesh> wfarr: it'd be highly dependent on how many other packages are queued
[07:31] <wfarr> jamesh, but after about 5 minutes, shouldn't it at least show under "Needs building"?
[07:33] <wfarr> I got the "Accepted" email from Launchpad PPA nearly 10 minutes ago
[07:33] <jamesh> wfarr: you'll probably need to wait for some of the soyuz guys to wake up
[07:33] <wfarr> k
[07:34] <jamesh> https://launchpad.net/+builds/samarium <- looks like the x86 builder is idle
[07:34] <wfarr> interesting
[07:35] <wfarr> might be for routine maintenance or something though - last build ended only 12 minutes back
[07:42] <Fujitsu> wfarr: It should start building within a few minutes. The source will be accepted on the 5-minutely job after you upload it, then published on the next 20-minutely job (ie. about 2 minutes), then given builds a few minutes after that.
[07:42] <Fujitsu> Erm, about 2 minutes ago, that should be.
[07:42] <wfarr> ok - thanks Fujitsu 
[07:43] <Fujitsu> The binaries won't be available until the */20 after they finish building.
[07:44] <wfarr> and there she goes
[07:44] <Fujitsu> Once the builds are listed, buildds should pick them up within a couple of minutes.
[07:44] <wfarr> k
[07:44] <wfarr> now to wait for the binaries
[07:46] <wfarr> the PPA's make my life easy since my laptop cannot realistically compile large projects like Emacs
[07:46] <wfarr> so having the PPA's let me build packages I otherwise couldn't
[07:49] <jamesh> wfarr: and you don't need to manage chroots for each architecture/distro :)
[07:49] <wfarr> that was the easy part ;)
[07:49] <wfarr> having a laptop that overheats on any compile besides smaller projects
[07:49] <wfarr> was the real pain
[07:49] <jamesh> or worry that your builds will end up depending on some quirk of your development system
[07:50] <wfarr> jamesh, that's what pbuilder was for ;)
[08:02] <wfarr> blah
[08:02] <wfarr> my packages failed to build =(
[08:03] <Fujitsu> wfarr: Wow, your clock is rather fast, but that doesn't look like what broke it.
[08:04] <wfarr> no
[08:04] <wfarr> patches didn't apply cleanly it seems
[08:04] <wfarr> which means another half hour uploading a fixed package :X
[08:05] <Fujitsu> No, you won't have to upload the .orig.tar.gz again.
[08:06] <wfarr> even if I change debian folder to not apply some patches?
[08:06] <Fujitsu> That's in the .diff.gz.
[08:06] <superm1> wfarr, the debian folder is in the .diff.gz
[08:06] <wfarr> kk =0
[08:06] <wfarr> =) **
[08:06] <superm1> so unless its debian native
[08:06] <superm1> you won't need to 
[08:07] <superm1> just remember to build the source package with 'debuild -S' rather than 'debuild -S -sa' to not include the .orig.tar.gz in the upload
[08:07] <wfarr> kk
[08:07] <superm1> also note you'll need to bump the ppa version number when you re-upload, so probably ~ppa2 now
[08:07] <superm1> its a good idea to try the builds locally first generally, to make sure that things will build right when you put it on the ppa
[08:07] <superm1> rather than having to reupload, and bump version numbers over and over
[10:00] <ubotu> New bug: #138545 in malone "Option for project bug listing to include bugs in project's packages" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138545
[10:27] <AlinuxOS> hello all, danilos is it normal that https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/nautilus/+imports nautilus(ka.po) isn't still imported ? :)
[10:29] <danilos> AlinuxOS: yes, if you look at https://translations.launchpad.net/+imports/+index?field.filter_target=ubuntu/gutsy&field.filter_status=APPROVED&field.filter_extension=all you can see we've got ~1911 entries to import for Gutsy
[10:29] <danilos> AlinuxOS: and we are currently processing those from September 4th, so your entry should probably get in today or tomorrow
[10:30] <AlinuxOS> :)
[10:30] <AlinuxOS> danilos, why so long time?
[10:31] <AlinuxOS> why not improve this ? :)
[10:32] <danilos> AlinuxOS: well, we are improving it all the times, but there are other things to improve as well...
[10:32] <AlinuxOS> ah... ok :)
[10:33] <AlinuxOS> because some imports need really loong time..sometimes weeks :)
[10:35] <danilos> AlinuxOS: yeah, we are aware of that, but that happens only when we get a lot of Ubuntu packages at the same time (like GNOME and OpenOffice.org update at the same time)
[10:35] <danilos> AlinuxOS: but, we'll fix it soon enough, I hope... and the easier fix is to actually just prioritise human uploads
[10:36] <AlinuxOS> danilos, I understand.
[11:45] <YokoZar_> When I file a bug I can only select what package it affects at the time of file - I can't specify it after I file the bug :(
[11:45] <YokoZar_> So I know my bug affects gnome-chess but it's stuck at "Ubuntu" (no package specified)
[11:46] <pochu> YokoZar_: click on the arrow near Importance or Status, and then change the package.
[11:47] <YokoZar_> pochu: That's an arrow?  Hmm... that part is a little too hidden
[11:48] <YokoZar_> pochu: still, thanks
[11:51] <pochu> YokoZar_: it's been changed recently... if you think it's not clear, file a bug :-)
[11:51] <YokoZar_> So, where do I file a bug in launchpad itself?
[11:51] <YokoZar_> pochu: I went to the top page and clicked report bug but couldn't find a launchpad in there.
[11:52] <pochu> YokoZar_: launchpad.net/launchpad for the general launchpad, and launchpad.net/malone for the bugtracker
[11:52] <YokoZar_> ty
[11:59] <AlinuxOS> danilos, sorry for disturbing, I was thinking about "confirmed terms" dictionary integration with launchpad...
[11:59] <AlinuxOS> is it in program enywhere?
[11:59] <AlinuxOS> teminology dictionary... or something similar.
[12:01] <jtv> AlinuxOS: we have one somewhere, just a moment
[12:03] <jtv> AlinuxOS: oh wait, do you mean for translation?  Or as documentation for Launchpad itself?
[12:04] <AlinuxOS> jtv, something that terms list.
[12:05] <AlinuxOS> or translation memory, transformed in a standard term list.
[12:06] <jtv> AlinuxOS: so, for translation...  Many people have proposed that, and we are working on some things to make that easier.  But for now, it's something that should be agreed with other translators, maybe on a wiki somewhere.
[12:10] <jtv> AlinuxOS: if you look at the blueprints for rosetta, you'll see several proposals.
[12:46] <ubotu> New bug: #138592 in malone "Bug notifications have personal To: header but aren't personal" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138592
[12:51] <kiko> dupe!
[12:53] <AlinuxOS> jtv, thank you!
[12:53] <AlinuxOS> It's really useful feature.
[12:53] <AlinuxOS> jtv, implement something similar & dynamic, will improve translation quality.
[01:01] <jtv> AlinuxOS: we know, but there's so much work to do first!  :)
[01:01] <AlinuxOS> :)
[01:05] <mpt> kiko, do you really think bug 44 is Medium?
[01:05] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 44 in rosetta "Translations should be searchable" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/44 - Assigned to   (danilo)
[01:05] <kiko> mpt, hmmmmm.
[01:05] <kiko> mpt, well, we do have half a workaround
[01:07] <danilos> well, I'll probably just go with stub's proposal to use table partitioning, because his major concern is growing database size with adding a FT index
[01:08] <danilos> (of course, provided LIKE performs as well on those subtables as it does on pomsgid table in my experiments)
[01:08] <mpt> kiko, how important something is is independent of what other work it depends on, IMO
[01:09] <mpt> What would be cool, if/when we get bug dependencies, is Launchpad saying "hey, this is marked Critical but it depends on something else that is only Medium"
[01:09] <mpt> "That ain't right"
[01:09] <mpt> I suppose Blueprint could do that sort of thing right now
[01:13] <jamesh> detecting priority inversion
[01:19] <Kuhrscher> carlos, danilos: Hi, for the new introduced app (Tribe5?) "kdesudo" there is no translation template in Rosetta. 
[01:19] <Kuhrscher> carlos, danilos: Do I have to file a bug agains Rosetta for this issue?
[01:20] <danilos> Kuhrscher: more likely a bug in kdesudo package
[01:21] <danilos> Kuhrscher: (I see nothing in https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/kdesudo/+imports)
[01:21] <Kuhrscher> Hmm, the source inlcudes a pot file and a french translation...
[01:22] <danilos> Kuhrscher: ah, it probably just changed from universe to main, or something like that, right?
[01:22] <carlos> danilos: yeah, that's it
[01:22] <carlos> I just checked it
[01:22] <danilos> Kuhrscher: if that's the case, we require a package rebuild
[01:22] <carlos> Kuhrscher: a new package build will introduce those translations
[01:22] <carlos> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdesudo/
[01:23] <Kuhrscher> carlos, Thanks. Do I have to ask someone for this?
[01:23] <carlos> Kuhrscher: anyway, if you request such rebuild, note that the .pot file must be regenerated on build time to be sure that we get latest messages to translate
[01:24] <carlos> Kuhrscher: package maintainers or wait for next package update
[01:24] <carlos> I guess we should add such procedure to package movement from universe to main as a policy
[01:24] <Kuhrscher> carlos: thanks, btw. Kmplayer still doesn't get translated by the langpacks although it is back in main for some month...
[01:25] <Kuhrscher> Same issue?
[01:25] <carlos> Kuhrscher: not sure, language packs didn't get an update since start of this month so maybe is just that
[01:26] <Kuhrscher> carlos: it came back to main August 4th...
[01:27] <Kuhrscher> Btw. shpuld not there be daily langpacks? I though I read something like that...
[01:28] <carlos> yeah, but the build infrastructure had some problems and Martin Pitt was out to fix it
[01:29] <carlos> he came back today, so I hope it will be fixed this week
[01:30] <carlos> Kuhrscher: seems like is not trivial to rebuild the package when it's moved to main
[01:30] <carlos> so that procedure will have a small delay until that's fixed
[01:30] <carlos> it just means that will take some extra days until you can translate it with launchpad
[01:30] <Kuhrscher> carlos: Nothing for a fix it friday? :)
[01:31] <carlos> well, that's outside the scope of Launchpad Translations
[01:31] <carlos> so no idea :-)
[01:31] <Kuhrscher> carlos: I checked mplayer again. There are 2 templates for it in Rosetta, but no *.mo file in the langpack
[01:32] <Kuhrscher> carlos: Ok, the langpack is from August 3rd
[01:32] <carlos> that's it then.
[01:32] <Kuhrscher> probably ;-)
[01:34] <Kuhrscher> You don't know when we will get a newer langpack?
[01:34] <carlos> talking with Martin pitt about that
[01:35] <carlos> Kuhrscher: Martin did an upload today
[01:36] <Kuhrscher> Ah, great.
[01:36] <Kuhrscher> :)
[01:36] <carlos> Kuhrscher: and seems like it will be updated every Wednesday from now
[01:36] <Kuhrscher> Good news.
[01:37] <carlos> Kuhrscher: although the data is from last Wednesday (seems like I broke something :-P) next Wednesday will have a more up to date version
[01:37] <Kuhrscher> ok ;-)
[01:43] <Kuhrscher> ok, bye
[01:53] <Kuhrscher> carlos, danilos: One last question. Are there any issues with the import queue atm?
[01:54] <Kuhrscher> My last upload took about 11 days?
[01:54] <carlos> Kuhrscher: we are finishing catching up with a huge queue
[01:54] <carlos> we have a performance problem with OO.org imports
[01:54] <carlos> and we got three different versions
[01:54] <carlos> our backlog now is 5 days
[01:55] <carlos> and I expect it will catch up before the end of this week
[01:55] <carlos> maybe earlier
[01:55] <Kuhrscher> carlos: Ah, ok. And how could I avoid a review of an uploaded po file?
[01:55] <Kuhrscher> Thanks
[01:55] <carlos> Kuhrscher: for ubuntu, you should not need such review
[01:55] <carlos> it's done automatically
[01:55] <carlos> even if its initial status is 'Needs review'
[01:56] <Kuhrscher> Ah, ok.
[01:56] <carlos> it will change automatically to Approved and then imported
[01:56] <Kuhrscher> Ok, thank you. No more questions for now ;-)
[01:57] <carlos> ok :-)
[02:11] <stone-unix> where should i report a bug of launchpad itself? occur when i doing english to chinese translation online
[02:12] <Fujitsu> stone-unix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/rosetta/+filebug
[02:13] <stone-unix> Fujitsu: ok, great. i will go there and report. thanks
[02:13] <intellectronica> stone-unix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/rosetta/
[02:26] <ubotu> New bug: #138618 in launchpad "Unexpected form data" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138618
[02:31] <ubotu> New bug: #138620 in soyuz "change-override.py -S doesn't move binaries with different names from source" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138620
[02:31] <stone-unix> ok, i just reported the bug, 138618
[02:40] <ubotu> New bug: #138623 in rosetta "Unexpected form data" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138623
[03:23] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Hi all
[03:24] <Le-Chuck_ITA> mrevell: I am looking forward to join the launchpad-beta-testers team, ahem :)
[03:32] <Le-Chuck_ITA> I will have to wait a little more it seems :) 
[03:37] <mrevell> Le-Chuck_ITA: Sorry, was on a call. I'll post this for anyone else who's reading, even though you've left the channel: we're making a change to the beta team later today, so that beta testers get redirected to our edge server .I'm waiting for that to happen, so I can tell new beta testers, before I approve anyone else. Thanks.
[03:41] <Hobbsee> he's still online, so i wonder why he left...
[04:06] <ignas> hi
[04:07] <ignas> where do i submit bug reports/ feature requests for launchpad / bzr branch handling (namely mailing list support)
[04:10] <kiko> ignas, what sort of mailing list support?
[04:10] <ignas> simple small things
[04:11] <ignas> like - would it be possible ot have a revision number/id in the subject
[04:11] <ignas> so that emails would not be threaded
[04:11] <kiko> ah
[04:11] <ignas> and have a name like "Launchpad checkins" instead of noreply@...
[04:11] <kiko> launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar
[04:12] <ignas> thanks
[04:44] <pgquiles> what's the fqdn to use the PPA in edge? upload.edge.launchpad.net and upload.launchpad.net do not work, and dogfood seems not to build anymore :-?
[04:44] <laga> fqdn = ppa.launchpad.net
[04:45] <kiko-fud> as the docs state. :)
[04:47] <pgquiles> laga: thank you
[04:48] <pgquiles> kiko-fud: where are the docs for edge.launchpad.net?
[04:48] <kiko-fud> pgquiles, I'm not sure I understand. edge has no specific documentation. I was referring to the PPA docs!
[04:49] <pgquiles> kiko-fud: let's hope uploading to ppa.launchpad.net makes my stuff show on edge.launchpad.net
[04:50] <kiko-fud> pgquiles, it will. edge uses the same database as launchpad.
[04:50] <pgquiles> kiko-fud: ok
[05:23] <ignas> i have just accidentally subscribed some poor soul to my branch
[05:23] <ignas> how do i unsubscribe him?
[05:24] <ignas> i can only see edit buttons near subscriptions i have permission to change
[05:24] <ignas> so apparently i can subscribe anyone, but i can't unsubscribe them after that
[06:00] <LaserJock> cprov-lunch: can you be available at 15:00 or 16:00 UTC on Wednesday
[06:09] <AlinuxOS> danilos, 
[06:12] <AlinuxOS> msgfmt -cv ka.po -o /dev/null 
[06:12] <AlinuxOS> ka.po:3347: end-of-line within string
[06:12] <AlinuxOS> msgfmt: found 1 fatal error
[06:12] <AlinuxOS> I got this error every time
[06:12] <AlinuxOS> even I have no strange things on that line
[06:12] <AlinuxOS> can anyone help me ?
[06:14] <AlinuxOS> ops
[06:15] <AlinuxOS> stragely fixed!
[06:28] <ignas> is it possible to assign some email for a team in launchpad?
[06:29] <Hobbsee> yes
[06:29] <Hobbsee> as in, you want to set a team contact address, or get some bugmail, etc, sent to all members of the team?
[06:29] <ignas> i want bzr checkins sent to the checkin mailing list of my team
[06:30] <ignas> so we could reply to them, and every team member would see the comments
[06:30] <Hobbsee> ie, subscribing to a branch?  or a whole project, maybe...
[06:30] <ignas> at least a branch
[06:31] <ignas> at the moment it seems that every member gets an email if a team is subscribed (i hope, as i am testing that at the moment)
[06:31] <Hobbsee> yes
[06:31] <ignas> but the from email is noreply, and to email is my personal email
[06:31] <Hobbsee> you can set the team email to be the ML though
[06:31] <ignas> so i have no easy way to comment on that change so other team members would see it
[06:32] <Hobbsee> which presumably everyone subscribes to
[06:32] <ignas> ok, i'll ask the team leader to do that
[06:32] <ignas> will i get a bounce if i will accidentally reply to the checkin email with "reply to all"?
[06:33] <Hobbsee> unsure
[06:35] <ignas> it would be kind of nice to have that email set to "whoami" data of the checkin
[06:35] <ignas> instead of noreply@launchpad.net
[06:36] <bdmurray> I was submitting a new bug report and was shown bug 86701 as a "my bug" candidate, yet while 86701 is new it is a duplicate of bug 3797 which is Fix Released.  Does anyone know if either issue has been reported?
[06:36] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 86701 in malone "the X-launchpad-bug header is missing information, why I got the mail (dup-of: 3797)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86701
[06:36] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 3797 in malone "Bug mails should explain why the person is getting emailed." [High,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/3797 - Assigned to Christian Reis (kiko)
[06:40] <ubotu> New bug: #138696 in malone "bug tags do not appear in e-mail headers" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138696
[06:46] <ignas> if only someone would add a mailing list for every single branch registered in launchpad, so emails comming from branches would be not from noreply, but from the mailing list for the branch.
[06:46] <ignas> And any emails sent to the branch would get sent to all subscribers of the branch.
[06:47] <ignas> Should not be too difficult as there already is something like a mailing list for every bug in launchpad.
[06:47] <ignas> So you'd only need unique id's for every branch in launchpad ...
[06:50] <ianm1> what's the best way to do an anonymous checkout from launchpad bzr?
[06:58] <ignas> bzr get "http://code.launchpad.net/..." --lightweight
[06:58] <ignas> if you only need the code
[07:05] <charlieg> how do i register a team?
[07:05] <charlieg> it's really, really not very obvious
[07:05] <synic> where can I see a list of changes for Edge?
[07:05] <ubotu> New bug: #138701 in malone "Help text for /bugs/+filebug" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138701
[07:07] <LaserJock> charlieg: go to https://launchpad.net/people/
[07:07] <LaserJock> charlieg: there is a link on the left for "Register a new team"
[07:08] <LaserJock> synic: you mean edge.launchpad.net?
[07:08] <synic> yeah
[07:08] <LaserJock> I don't think there is a specific list, but https://edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-project/+milestone/1.1.9 might give you an idea
[07:09] <synic> k
[07:09] <LaserJock> I think stuff that's "Fix Released" and "Fix Committed" would be on edge
[07:18] <Ng> can beta testers elect to not necessarily be redirected to edge all the time?
[07:19] <LaserJock> you can change it temporarily
[07:19] <LaserJock> if you go to the main Launchpad page
[07:19] <LaserJock> there is a "Disable for 2 hrs" button
[07:19] <Ng> I'm looking at edge.lp.net and I don't have that (I remember that being there the last time this was done)
[07:20] <soren> Ng: nono, launchpad.net
[07:20] <Ng> aha, good point
[07:20] <soren> It's the "real" launchpad that has to not redirect you :)
[07:20] <Ng> yeah
[07:20] <Ng> I'd like to be able to disable my inverted ducky more indefinitely, but this'll do :)
[07:21] <Ng> ooh, it's a rocketship now
[07:22] <charlieg> thanks!
[07:28] <Odd_Bloke> mrevell: 'Am I on a list of beta test applicants somewhere?'-related ping.
[07:30] <`23meg> is it impossible to remove an accidentally added affected distro/package from a bug?
[07:30] <LaserJock> pretty much
[07:30] <LaserJock> you can retarget
[07:31] <LaserJock> I think
[07:32] <`23meg> doesn't seem possible
[07:33] <LaserJock> what's the bug #?
[07:33] <`23meg> https://bugs.launchpad.net/baltix/+source/nautilus/+bug/13199
[07:33] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 13199 in file-roller "Drag n' Drop directories from File-Roller is somewhat tricky" [High,Confirmed]   - Assigned to Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs)
[07:33] <LaserJock> which one are you trying to remove?
[07:33] <`23meg> baltix
[07:35] <LaserJock> hmm, I'd rather baltix people messed around with their tasks, but you could mark it as "Invalid" to sort of get rid of it
[07:35] <AlinuxOS> when I get to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/gnome-control-center/+imports , I got OOPS-618B1426
[07:35] <ubotu> https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/618B1426
[07:35] <`23meg> I think I'll have to do so
[07:36] <LaserJock> LP bug for what?
[07:36] <`23meg> no way to remove affected packages
[07:37] <LaserJock> I *think* that is by design, but I'm not sure
[07:37] <`23meg> me neither :)
[08:47] <geser> is https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/91426/+activity for others also to wide for layout?
[08:47] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 91426 in human-icon-theme "human-icon-theme missing gnome-dev-media-sdmmc.png" [Undecided,Fix committed]  
[08:48] <LaserJock> I gotta scroll a little bit, but it's not bad
[08:49] <geser> scroll only vertically or also horizontally?
[08:50] <geser> for me the message column is off-screen
[08:52] <LaserJock> horizontally
[08:52] <LaserJock> if I maximize the window it all fits in horizontally
[08:55] <geser> http://members.ping.de/~mb/Screenshot.png and firefox is already maximized
[08:56] <LaserJock> mines a bit better than that, but it is pretty wide
[08:58] <geser> the other activity logs I checked all fit into the window
[08:58] <geser> so I wonder if I should a bug report it or not
[09:11] <dcm_> how does one make a new project a "super-project"?
[09:12] <dcm_> or "project group" - whatever its called
[09:12] <zzorn> email the admins, I think
[09:12] <dcm_> oh - really? hmmm
[09:15] <Odd_Bloke> dcm_: I think asking a Question in the Launchpad project is the way to go.
[09:16] <dcm_> Odd_Bloke: ah - right, OK thanks
[10:30] <pochu> danilos, carlos: tracker isn't actually translatable, but it seems the templates are waiting in the queue: https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/tracker/+imports . Is that Ok, or is there any problem? It seems they have been there for a month.
[10:31] <danilos> pochu: that means we need to manually approve them: we'll slowly get to it
[10:31] <carlos> pochu: the source package needs to be updated to generate the .pot file
[10:31] <carlos> danilos: it lacks the .pot file
[10:32] <danilos> carlos: ah, indeed
[10:32] <carlos> pochu: you can read more about it on https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/beagle/+bug/104219
[10:33] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 104219 in beagle "Translation template was not imported to Feisty" [Undecided,Confirmed]   - Assigned to Kevin Kubasik (kkubasik)
[10:33] <carlos> beagle has the same problem
[10:33] <LaserJock> kiko-afk: ping me when you have a minute
[10:33] <pochu> carlos: cool, thanks a lot
[10:33] <kiko-afk> LaserJock, I have physio in a minute. what's up? :)
[10:35] <carlos> np
[10:58] <carlos> good night!
[10:58] <pwnguin> which product does one report bugs against ppas on?
[10:58] <salgado> pwnguin, soyuz
[10:59] <pwnguin> thanks
[11:00] <mpt> Goooooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!
[11:01] <mpt> The sun never sets on the Launchpad Empire
[11:02] <pwnguin> guess someone else already filed it =/ six months ago =(
[11:03] <LaserJock> pwnguin: what's the problem?
[11:17] <pwnguin> LaserJock: just a strange default with the build records
[11:17] <pwnguin> maybe i just dont package big things, but ive never actually caught a packing "building"
[11:18] <pwnguin> i'd personally prefer a "all states" view of package builds, but if that's too costly then at least something like finished
[11:20] <LaserJock> pwnguin: ah, yeah
[11:20] <pwnguin> its just annoying to click twice because "currently building" was the alphabetically first in the drop down menu
[11:25] <ubotu> New bug: #138758 in malone ""If you wish report it..., you must log in first"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138758
[11:34] <bdmurray> What is being testing on on edge now?
[11:35] <Kmos> bdmurray: the next LP version.. 1.1.9
[11:36] <bdmurray> Kmos: Do you know where the list of new features is?
[11:39] <Kmos> bdmurray: i don't think they're available before the release.. ask on launchpad-users ML.
[11:39] <Kmos> http://news.launchpad.net/
[11:39] <Kmos> the blog doesn't have anything
[11:39] <LaserJock> bdmurray: https://launchpad.net/launchpad-project/+milestone/1.1.9 ?
[11:40] <Kmos> that's it
[11:45] <bdmurray> Hmm, that isn't as helpful as I would have hoped
[11:51] <yml> Hello goodevening launchpaders,
[11:52] <yml> Is there a way to force launchpad to "refresh" after a bzr push?
[12:10] <mdke> danilos: i need your help with something; you're not around by any chance?
[12:21] <mdke> danilos: emailed :)