=== nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:23] jml: hadn't really noticed that. fonts seemed ok to me === bigon [i=bigon@213.219.161.188.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:24] Different fonts are used in gusty [01:27] Which is the source of my problem in freenx! :o === Frogzoo [n=Frogzoo@202.155.165.25] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:27] Thanks for your question lol === tehk [n=tehk@c-69-249-157-157.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Kir [n=Sh3rry@c-71-200-21-140.hsd1.de.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Tsukasa [n=Tsukasa@75.111.128.37] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:39] hey guys... is it possible to install gutsy with reiser4 filesystem? === Pici [n=Pici@ool-4355be00.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === MrKeuner [n=kudo@unaffiliated/mrkeuner] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:45] Ya [01:46] Filesystems do not affect distros unless the kernel included does not support them. [01:46] does gutsy have a kernel which supports reiser4 [01:46] Yes. [01:47] Unless I've been running reiser3 this whole time.. *laughs* [01:47] sweet === MrKeuner [n=kudo@unaffiliated/mrkeuner] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Ex-Chat"] [01:47] is it just an install option on the livecd? [01:47] reiserfs ya; it doesn't specify if it's 3 or 4 though [01:48] that would make me think its 3 then >_> [01:48] I wonder if there's a reiserfs for FUSE. [01:48] Yeah, 3.6.19 [01:49] hmm no plans in including reiser 4 gui install support before release of gutsy? [01:49] It'd be wise to put / on reiser3 anyways... you can always make /home reiser4 later. [01:49] yeah i guess === n0yd [n=n0yd@pdpc/active/archlinux.user.n0yd] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:50] resier4 looks pretty stable though [01:50] Yeah, I used it on my gentoo box for quite some time. [01:50] mm [01:50] it isn't [01:50] Tsukasa: Heh, you are asking the same question I was about to ask I suppose? :-P [01:50] It's stable here, running Crux. [01:50] and furthermore [01:50] its not going anywhere [01:50] Oh lawd.. crux.. [01:50] 1.5TB Raid5 [01:50] so its a dead end [01:50] I haven't used that in forever xD [01:51] Hmm, just noticed the name. ./hack//SIGN -- I didn't care for the show that greatly, but the music is good. === pwuertz [n=pwuertz@ares.inter2.wohnheim.uni-mainz.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:51] hydrogen: Dvelopment hasn't ceased just because hans is locked up. [01:51] sounds like reiser4 ;) [01:51] n0yd: no, but your relying on a third party company (rather than the general linux community) to develop a driver [01:51] DanaG, its fitting for an internet handle though and its obscure enough that i can sometimes get it [01:51] There is more than just Hans to namesys. [01:52] which is not really your best bet [01:52] Plus, it can be used for either gender, if you consider the story. [01:52] hydrogen: And the general community doesn't help with Reiser4? I doubt that one, it's an FOSS project, the community is free to work on it as they see fit. [01:52] n0yd: no, it doesn' [01:53] t [01:53] and doesn't want to [01:53] based on the amount of times it has been rejected from mainline [01:53] well its actually feminine in connotation so not really... the fact that he was a guy in the game would be a little weird to a native japanese speaker [01:53] hydrogen: Maybe the majority on the LKML doesn't want to. But I'd disagree that no one in the community helps with development. [01:54] got any proof to back that up? [01:54] but its like a car being a feminine connotation, it doesnt have the societal stigma of a gender attached to it [01:54] anyways [01:55] hydrogen: You got any proof to back up your claims? My claim comes from the fact that there are people that use Reiser4, and people still commiting bug fixes. [01:55] hydrogen, reiser4 is much faster then ext3, why not use it [01:55] and technically superior as well [01:56] n0yd: I already gave you my proof. Its been rejected from mainline repeatedly. Your proof that there are people using reiser4 has nothing to do with the community developing it, nor does people at namesys committing [01:56] Tsukasa: theres where you go wrong [01:56] To say no one in the community cares for Reiser4 enough to help with its development is preposterous [01:56] ext3 is just as fast as a general purpose filesystem, reiser4's speed is grossly exagerated [01:56] No.. [01:57] hydrogen: Just because it's been rejected from the main kernel tree means nothing as for saying there isn't a community behind Reiser4. [01:57] Reiser4 is blazing fast in comparison. [01:57] lmao [01:57] hydrogen, for general system use maybe, but for specific usecases involving numerous small files it is indeed superior [01:57] You haven't backed up youir claim one bit, all ytour doing is making good flame bait. [01:57] Tsukasa: and there are not all that many specific usecases where one has numberous small files [01:57] hydrogen, usenet. [01:57] wow [01:57] loss [01:57] I can't spell tonight [01:57] :/ [01:57] usenet died out about 10 years ago [01:57] wayy before reiser4 did [01:57] hahahahahahaha === n0yd still uses usenet on a daily basis [01:58] wow you know nothing === Tsukasa does too [01:58] okay [01:58] we've got two people [01:58] And you realize with the invention of the NZB, usenet is actually becoming more popular. === hydrogen wanders off to be productive... continue your zealotry [01:58] hydrogen: go into ##linux and ask how many people use usenet. [01:58] lmao === n0yd smells a troll. Oh wait, it's hydrogen [01:59] n0yd, hes going to get pelted with rocks if he asks that question in # linux [01:59] metaphorically. [01:59] Tsukasa: I'm still waiting for him to give some proof as to his "Reiser4 has no community support" claim. [02:00] There are more developers than just the zealots that troll the LKML all day long. === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === n0yd goes off to download some "goodies" from usenet/ === Xero [n=xero9364@c-24-126-30-244.hsd1.wv.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === pwuertz [n=pwuertz@ares.inter2.wohnheim.uni-mainz.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:22] how much disk do I need to compile linux-source? 3gig so far isn't enough === tehk [n=tehk@c-69-249-157-157.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ionstorm [n=ion@71-36-164-32.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === xopher [n=xopher@unaffiliated/xopher] has joined #ubuntu+1 === szf [n=sean@c-24-60-10-245.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === albert23 [n=albert@86.81.99.204] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [02:29] Anyone have a working wacom tablet in Gutsy? Mine is having issues. === buttercups [n=me@adsl-70-224-40-235.dsl.sbndin.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === roe [n=roe___@216-164-160-36.c3-0.eas-ubr10.atw-eas.pa.static.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === emet [n=emet@unaffiliated/emet] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ionstorm [n=ion@71-36-164-32.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === buttercups [n=me@adsl-70-224-40-235.dsl.sbndin.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Tsukasa_ [i=Tsukasa@75.111.131.238] has joined #ubuntu+1 === osmosis [n=steven@cpe-76-80-127-252.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === d4rkmonkey [n=Jared@74.103.45.55] has joined #ubuntu+1 === _4strO [n=cedric@AStrasbourg-253-1-77-206.w90-26.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu+1 === _4strO [n=cedric@AStrasbourg-253-1-77-206.w90-26.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu+1 === geser [i=mb@2002:5361:2a04:0:0:0:0:1] has joined #ubuntu+1 === chrissturm [n=chris@85.127.250.23] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:13] hey guys! I have set the model to generic 1920x1200 in "screens and graphics", but in the available resolutions i get 1920x1440 instead. === DanaG [n=dana@71-9-52-25.static.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mloki_ [n=mloki@75.80.5.221] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:17] maybe someone in here can help me.. how do i make the nvidia-new kernel module the default loaded module? === beg1689 [n=beg1689@ip68-228-159-130.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:18] sup [03:19] snadge add it to /etc/modules ? [03:20] im just wondering if anyone else is having the same issue as me, opengl apps fail completely with compiz running, they either have a black screen or just crash X completely [03:20] are opengl apps supposed to be working or do i have it screwed up? [03:22] beg1689 happens sometimes to me too... [03:22] beg1689 only some though. [03:22] not sometimes, always [03:22] most things are blank, some things just crash X instantly [03:22] beg1689 what video card do you have? [03:22] gf7600 [03:22] Company? [03:22] nvidia? [03:23] geforce 7600 [03:23] oh gf == geforce... [03:23] id imagine its a driver issue [03:23] i have to stop gdm, manually unload the kernel module.. modprobe nvidia-new.. restart gdm, then X works again.. otherwise i get black screen [03:23] yeah, nvidia's aren't the best supported video cards. [03:23] i just wanted to know if it was a common problem or if it was just me === Pici [n=Pici@ool-4355be00.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:23] even though i have nvidia-new in /etc/modules [03:23] im not using the new one, just the regular [03:24] beg1689 you could always try nvidia-new [03:24] if i make an SDL program that just creates an opengl context and then exits, it just crashes X [03:24] yea i guess i will [03:24] im tempted to just dist-upgrade to gutsy, but then i might break other things which are working fine [03:24] compiz works beautifully other then that though [03:24] i just made a .xsession soley for compiz, and i load gnome when i want a regular desktop [03:24] i use avant window navigator and stuff, its nice [03:24] and Expo is pretty sweet [03:24] snadge It shouldn't break anything... also why ask for help in here if you aren't using gutsy now? [03:25] d4rkmonkey: unfortunately nobody could help me in #ubuntu :( [03:25] i never tryed doing a dist upgrade, i figure it might be messy, and id want to have all the new default settings for gnome and stuff that a new distro might have changed [03:25] snadge yeah... but this is for gutsy help, and generally if people are in here, they are in #ubuntu too. [03:25] i just rename my home and reinstall [03:26] i guess ill look at nvidia-new, i assumed it was for 8 series cards [03:26] how do i "ban" nvidia and nvidia-legacy module.. perhaps then nvidia-new will be chosen by default? [03:27] ban? [03:27] you mean prevent from installing? [03:27] yes... for some retarded reason, even though nvidia-new is installed.. it chooses the nvidia.ko kernel module, instead of nvidia-new.ko [03:27] and consequently X fails to start [03:27] uninstall the old one then [03:28] how do i remove the nvidia driver but keep the nvidia new one installed? [03:28] it doesnt let you? [03:28] snadge how did you install them? [03:28] im gonna try that right now [03:28] so ill let you know ;) [03:28] d4rkmonkey: im not actually sure now ;) [03:28] snadge [03:28] snadge well, that sucks. [03:28] i dont know what your problem is but... [03:28] i used apt-get [03:28] i _think_ [03:28] when i choose to install nvidia-glx-new it removes nvidia-glx for me [03:29] snadge then apt-get remove it? I don't know..? [03:29] i *cant* have them both [03:29] nvidia-glx is not installed.. its the restricted drivers that are causing the problem [03:29] all 3 drivers are installed with that [03:29] you cant just install the new one, or the legacy one.. you get them all [03:30] hm? [03:30] i see each one as its own package [03:30] i just installed only the new one [03:30] ill restart X and see where that gets me === beg1689 [n=beg1689@ip68-228-159-130.ri.ri.cox.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === beg1689 [n=beg1689@ip68-228-159-130.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:33] ok... [03:33] well that didnt go well [03:33] but apparently theres another feature of gutsy i didnt know about [03:34] whats that? [03:34] X didnt start but instead of a disgusting blue screen it started X in really low res and presented the new X config tool [03:34] so now im in e17 [03:34] at what seems to be 640x480 [03:34] i just reinstalled linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-16-generic (feisty) === beg1689 [n=beg1689@ip68-228-159-130.ri.ri.cox.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [03:44] ok.. i've found that if i reinstall nvidia-glx-new, then X will start [03:44] but if i restart X.. i just get a black screen [03:45] so installing nvidia-glx-new does something to fix the problem.. once === TreMobyl is now known as Solarion === h1st0 [n=histo@h156.112.29.71.ip.alltel.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === vlowther [n=vlowther@adsl-75-55-115-198.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:51] So how exactly do I found out if a bug has been reported? It appears if yout ry to run warsow fullscreen with desktop effects enabled it restarts X [03:52] !bug [03:52] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/ - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots === RxDx [i=Rodrigo@201-74-138-43-sj.cpe.vivax.com.br] has joined #ubuntu+1 === beg1689 [n=beg1689@ip68-228-159-130.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:55] sup === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:55] nvidia-glx failed miserably [03:56] so i installed the newest driver from nvidias installer, works great now [03:56] which is strange because its the same version [03:56] using identical xorg.conf [03:57] now to try an opengl app... [03:57] bah, blank screen === beg1689 [n=beg1689@ip68-228-159-130.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:00] glxgears crashes X... [04:00] (same as before) === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === allbert [n=allberto@124.82.118.149] has joined #ubuntu+1 === beg1689 [n=beg1689@ip68-228-159-130.ri.ri.cox.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === fiveiron [n=fiveiron@74-137-162-129.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === vlowther [n=vlowther@adsl-75-55-115-198.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === xopher [n=xopher@unaffiliated/xopher] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DShepherd [n=dwight@72.252.133.113] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DigitalNinja [n=dhull@157-157-237-24-mvl.ewc.gci.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Andre [n=csnemesi@20158171162.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:24] oi [04:25] tem alguem aiii [04:25] kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk [04:25] que sala de bate papo mais doida [04:26] art [04:26] !br [04:26] Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado. === Toma- [n=e17@203-59-151-120.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:26] o que [04:26] ??????????? [04:27] :| === Andre [n=csnemesi@20158171162.user.veloxzone.com.br] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === Andre [n=csnemesi@20158171162.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Andre [n=csnemesi@20158171162.user.veloxzone.com.br] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === h1st0 [n=histo@h156.112.29.71.ip.alltel.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:28] I have little faith those bugs will ever be fixed. [04:29] Whatever they recently did to Xorg is causing all sorts of weird bugs with desktop-effects enabled. [04:29] d-e changes a lot as well. but hopefully they will be [04:30] well people on launchpad are telling the bug reporters to ask nvidia for a fix. When nvidia didn't create the problem. [04:30] The nvidia drivers haven't changed jsut the X [04:30] which bug is this? [04:31] let me find it hold up [04:31] bug #130325 [04:31] Launchpad bug 130325 in xorg "[nvidia-glx] 3D GL apps crash X when using compiz due to unmaked ABI change (gutsy)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130325 [04:32] There are several clones the other thing that was messed up was the other bug I reported #13508 [04:33] err the other bug I reported was bug #130508 [04:33] Launchpad bug 130508 in ubuntu "[sync request] sync ttf-sil-yi from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130508 === osito [n=osito@189.156.196.251] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:33] wait thats not it. [04:33] bug #138508 [04:33] Launchpad bug 138508 in desktop-effects "(gusty) gnome panel displayed running wine apps full screen with desktop effects enabled" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138508 [04:33] there ya go [04:34] Those are two new issues [04:34] anyone can help me figure out why even if I seem to join my wifi network I can't ping my router or browse the internet? [04:34] osito: what type of card do you have? [04:35] osito: lspci | grep Ethernet [04:36] hlst0, I'm actually trying to figure out this bugger Bug #92088 [04:36] Launchpad bug 92088 in bcm43xx-fwcutter "this does not work with dell 1390" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92088 [04:36] Its Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card (rev 01) [04:37] I've now figured out the missing firmware bit, but even if it now receives DHCP offers just fine, I can't ping the router or other boxes [04:37] nor access the web [04:38] h1st0: it reads like a sad state of affairs. this is how it goes -> GFX card -> nvidiadriver -> Xorg.... and if nvidia is crashing X, then I dare say its an nvidia problem. === tehk [n=tehk@c-69-249-157-157.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:41] ahh theres an MS troll on this thread [04:42] Anyone here compiling their own kernel with mactel stuff in it? [04:44] hlst0, any suggestion? [04:45] anyone missing the icon on Xchat GNOME? === osito [n=osito@189.156.196.251] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:49] Anyone know how to make sure gutsy starts with the applesmc module? === skinnypuppy1334_ [n=user@66-168-108-106.dhcp.mdvl.ga.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bullgard4 [n=detlef@p54BF21C9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:00] can you confirm bug 135197 [05:00] Launchpad bug 135197 in xchat-gnome "Icon missing" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135197 === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:00] h1st0, any idea on my wifi woes? [05:01] Toma-: nvidia driver hasn't change [05:02] osito: you just need to install the firmware in /lib/firmware/`uname -r` [05:03] the firmware is not missing anymore, but when I attach to the wifi routher I can't surf the web [05:15] h1st0, any output you might need? === Carny [i=Carny@81-179-70-230.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Carny [i=Carny@81-179-70-230.dsl.pipex.com] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [05:20] osito: where did you get the firmware? [05:21] http://downloads.openwrt.org/sources/wl_apsta-3.130.20.0.o [05:21] osito: and you extrqacted from there. [05:21] yep [05:22] you can see my exact commands at the bug 92088 [05:22] Launchpad bug 92088 in bcm43xx-fwcutter "this does not work with dell 1390" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92088 [05:22] how many bcm files do you ahve in /lib/firmware [05:23] 16 === vlowther [n=vlowther@adsl-75-55-115-198.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:25] osito: k hold up reading the bug [05:25] osito: so you are just getting the errors that the firmware isn't loaded in dmesg? [05:26] no, these are gone, now [05:26] I can now use nm-applet and join the wireless network just fine [05:26] osito: okay did you rmmod and modprobe since then or restart? [05:26] k [05:27] I get an IP and all, but if I ping the router I get host unreachable [05:27] is your ip one inside of the range of the router? [05:30] it is === cdm10 [n=caleb@unaffiliated/cdm10] has joined #ubuntu+1 === cdm10 [n=caleb@unaffiliated/cdm10] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === dfgas [n=dfgas@adsl-68-77-195-193.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:32] I actually did a dhclient and it went fine [05:32] but after the IP assignment I can only pong the laptop itself, not the router [05:33] osito: you had to manually use dhclient? [05:33] no I did it as a test [05:34] osito: have you tried bringing the interface down and back up? [05:34] no [05:34] osito: well try that do ifconfig find out which interface it is then sudo ifdown eth(x) [05:34] any other ideas so I can test in a batch [05:34] osito: sudo ifup eth(X) [05:35] then ifconfig again see if its getting an ip [05:35] if it isn't then sudo dhclient [05:36] then make sure the ip is something along the lines of the router i.e. if router is 192.168.0.XXX then net interface should be 192.168.0.XXX and it should be pointed at the router with a gateway matching the ip of the router. [05:37] anything else? [05:37] osito: maybe a restart if all that isn't working. [05:37] I'll lost connection while I try [05:38] thanks anyhow === nickrud [n=nickrud_@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/nickrud] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:38] k === Frost^ [n=sweiss@85-250-70-116.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu+1 === BentJ [n=BentJ@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === cld2 [n=cliff@ip65-44-219-34.z219-44-65.customer.algx.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:05] does bcm43xx-firmwarecutter work on gutsy yet? [06:06] I know this is a bit out of line but... Im running 2.6.22-11 server on my laptop and when I do aptitude install nvidia-glx-new it trying to install 2.6.22-10 kernel-* pkgs, I also tried desktop and with the 2.6.22-11 kernel and the restriced drivers tool for gnome it installed the 2.6.22-11 kernel-* bits. any ideas or should I just stfu. thanks. === Tomcat_` [n=Tomcat@p54A1CBBC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:08] cld2: you mean that its the wrong kernel name? [06:08] cld2: I am using the nvidia-glx-new at home without problems.....its other things that is not working correct on the system I have [06:09] scizzo-: are you using desktop or server? === buttercups [n=me@adsl-70-224-50-188.dsl.sbndin.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:11] both [06:12] scizzo-: on server when you did an aptitude install nvidia-glx-new did it install the current linux-image pkg? [06:13] nope === malnilion [n=malnilio@129.244.177.157] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:13] its a lamp server so [06:13] oh [06:13] ok [06:13] nm [06:14] I am running nvidia-glx-new on desktop sp [06:14] when i installed desktop it worked fine, which is strange. oh well. === valles [n=valles@190.37.168.189] has joined #ubuntu+1 === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #ubuntu+1 === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@64.140.73.93] has joined #ubuntu+1 === randy026 [n=randy026@70-58-159-66.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === MaxLogic [n=maxlogic@pool-71-112-14-130.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:26] hey my virutal desktops are in two rows, and I need to get them back onto one row so cube will work properly [06:26] how do I do that? I can't seem to find the options anywhere [06:26] like right now it's on 2x2 but I need 1x4. [06:27] set desktop to 1, horizontal viewports to 4 [06:27] in ccsm [06:27] sudo aptitude install compizconfigsettings-manager if you dont have it [06:28] I have it, I just can't find the setting [06:29] I found it === Toma- [n=e17@203-59-151-120.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ionstorm [n=ion@71-223-103-74.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DarkX [n=DarkX@ip70-181-154-127.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === buttercups [n=me@c-68-54-116-100.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === MaxLogic [n=maxlogic@pool-71-112-14-130.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === asisak [n=conp@ubuntu/member/coNP] has joined #ubuntu+1 === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Ahadiel [n=ahadiel@S010600131042857c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-41.auto.rp80.se] has joined #ubuntu+1 === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-1-87.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === databuddy [n=starz@75.80.5.221] has joined #ubuntu+1 === crd1b [n=crdlb@unaffiliated/crdlb] has joined #ubuntu+1 === MaxLogic [n=maxlogic@pool-71-112-14-130.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === MaxLogic [n=maxlogic@pool-71-112-14-130.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === rockets [n=rockets@pool-71-247-28-40.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === underwatercow [n=keith@c-67-185-21-230.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:44] Is there a reason to install Gnash over Flash? [07:46] Or would you only install Gnash if you couldn't install Flash? [07:48] if you care about having only open-source on your computer then get gnash [07:48] otherwise flash itself is much better === rockets [n=rockets@pool-71-247-28-40.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Agrajag` [n=Agrajag@pool-71-182-234-247.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #Ubuntu+1 === jussi01 [n=jussi@oul088-gw3.netplaza.fi] has joined #ubuntu+1 === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DanaG [n=dana@71-9-52-25.static.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === buttercups [n=me@c-68-54-116-100.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Nicke [n=niclasa@ua-83-227-140-135.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jsomers [n=jsomers@d51A50113.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === AnRkey [n=AnRkey@87-194-62-131.bethere.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === AnRkey [n=AnRkey@87-194-62-131.bethere.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === fuoco [n=gad@87.69.68.130.cable.012.net.il] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:27] anyone running gutsy on powerpc? [08:31] Hmm, anybody here have Netgear WGR614? I had one, but got sick of its bugginess and replaced it with something with DD-WRT. However, now I can't remember: does the Netgear have an option to act as a wireless client bridge? === h1st0 [n=histo@h156.112.29.71.ip.alltel.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === h1st0 [n=histo@h156.112.29.71.ip.alltel.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-1-87.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-1-87.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === KenSentMe [n=jeroen@kensentme.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:47] I don't get any startup sounds when running Gutsy, is that normal? [08:47] Sound works in other places like Banshee === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@c-76-17-194-130.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:52] what needs to be the size of the livecd? can i burn a 707MB image these days? [08:53] 707mb, heh [08:53] that ought to be a mistake for a livecd [08:53] KenSentMe: yeah they don't ahve any [08:54] hylje: hrm.. yeah that doesn't sound right. [08:54] ile a bug [08:54] f [08:54] ? === rockets [n=rockets@pool-71-247-28-40.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:55] the livecd should fit in a 700mb cd === jscinoz [n=jscinoz@203-158-48-19.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:55] yes [08:55] hylje: have you tried burning it? [08:55] no [08:56] Then how do you know it doesn't fit with overburn or something? [08:56] ah you're right - it's just the daily ones [08:56] hrrm [08:56] i thought the tribes too [08:56] h1st0, ok, thanks [08:56] one should not depend on overburn [08:57] its a bug [08:57] Has anyone managed to get multimedia keys to work with songbird? [08:57] !bug [08:57] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/ - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots [08:59] actually the i386 is 701MB === allbert [n=allberto@124.82.118.149] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:59] and there's a file .OVERSIZED to show it's wrong i suppose === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-1-87.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === databuddy [n=starz@75.80.5.221] has joined #ubuntu+1 === necronekostar [n=starz@75.80.5.221] has joined #ubuntu+1 === masterloki [n=mloki@75.80.5.221] has joined #ubuntu+1 === matysek [n=matysek@22.Red-88-14-182.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:07] lol === mzuverink [n=mzuverin@adsl-75-40-241-186.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:16] Getting ready to plug in a new hard drive oin my laptop, and install a fresh Ubuntu. Is Gusty stable enough at this point for usage being we are about a month out of release? Laptop will be used for amorok, k3b, openoffice.org and browsing. Teah, yeah, I know, its testing, but I hate installing and would like to just install gusty now instead of feisty then gusty in a month, I really hate installing. [09:16] then upgrade ;) [09:17] mzuverink: you could just upgrade in a month no need to reinstall everytime. [09:17] and no its not very stable. [09:17] atleast for me it isn't === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-1-87.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:17] Thats my gut response too, I was just wondering if many things were broke at this point and not worth trying to use it [09:19] h1st0, I have had terrible luck with upgrading and prefer fresh installs. Ill take your word for it and go the feisty route though. We school starting today and such I dont have a bunch of time to troubleshoot [09:19] thanks [09:20] mzuverink: yeah I'm just havning a lot of random freezing [09:21] h1st0, Itried herd 4, and it was really a poor experience [09:21] though it was very pretty === jsomers [n=jsomers@d5152D0CE.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === sjefen6 [n=webmaste@s1035-0078.dsl.start.no] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jjchico [n=jjchico@valhalla.dte.us.es] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jjchico [n=jjchico@valhalla.dte.us.es] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === DanaG [n=dana@71-9-52-25.static.snlo.ca.charter.com] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Leaving."] [09:31] who knows when Hardy will be available for testing? [09:31] :P [09:32] jscinoz: wow you're quick :) [09:33] :P [09:33] cutting edge ftw :) [09:33] right now? [09:33] really? where? [09:33] jscinoz: After Gutsy is released. [09:33] ah [09:33] alrigthy [09:34] oh [09:34] man [09:34] total brain fart [09:35] for some reason i thought hardy was the current testing [09:36] do you guys still have this data-quota BS where you live? [09:37] afk, shower :P got some questions regarding custom built packages when i get back, until then have fun :) === grumpymole [n=warren@c211-28-135-80.lowrp2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Zdra [n=zdra@91.177.27.126] has joined #ubuntu+1 === LinAsH [n=missmagu@193.54.76.57] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bbwa [n=chatzill@213.219.170.193.adsl.static.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:48] hello I have a strange effect and do not know what is caused, perhaps the last update (gutsy) ... [09:48] I have to choose a network to connect (xdmcp) [09:49] but I fail on all [09:49] any idea how to solve it? I try to reboot in the x.10 kernel again but it does not matter === jeroenvrp [n=jeroenvr@wikipedia/jeroenvrp] has joined #ubuntu+1 === arooni__ [n=arooni__@c-67-183-138-62.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:55] i have two 19 LCDs capable of 1280x1024. i have an nvidia graphics card and twinview up and running...... question: when i maximize movie player ... it does it only for one screen. can i maximize the window such that it is maximized across both lcds? === chand [n=rsamson@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === h1st0 [n=histo@h156.112.29.71.ip.alltel.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:57] I noticed this too that full screen uses only one of the 2 screens === jsomers [n=jsomers@d5152D0CE.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:59] arooni__: i have the exact opposite problem =/ [09:59] i can hook my tv up to twinview [10:00] totem maximizes to both screens [10:00] when set side by side [10:00] pwnguin, can we trade [10:00] ? [10:00] p [10:00] (for reasons unknown, clone doesnt work right on the tv) === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:01] I like to switch to Gutsy, but can someone please confirm me if the issues mentioned in Bug #131995 and Bug #132053 are resolved!? [10:01] Launchpad bug 131995 in xorg "playing a video in various players crashes X or KDE in Gutsy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131995 [10:01] Launchpad bug 132053 in firefox "Typing in text form in Firefox becomes very slow in Gutsy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132053 [10:02] why are those bugs not even touched === AlinuxOS [n=vsichi@host57-130-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:05] because theres 10 times as many people submitting bugs as looking at them, id guess [10:06] most people look at them, too, they just are not or do not feel authorized to change them. [10:06] but i havent experienced the firefox bug personally [10:07] pwnguin: well maybe its related to the video card cq driver, but it works good in feisty and older ubuntu versions [10:08] plus i dont use kubuntu =( === AnRkey [n=AnRkey@host-83-146-42-229.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:11] pwnguin: nothin to do with it [10:11] proberly [10:11] you can duplicate in gnome? [10:12] wel its firefox [10:12] cant duplicate anything right now, because I reinstalled feisty [10:12] I need firefox for daily usage [10:13] and also video is very important [10:13] oh come on you don't need pr0n that bad [10:13] off course not [10:13] :-) [10:15] lol [10:15] between intel, nvidia and ati, i think theres not many people left to use via graphics [10:16] pwnguin: not really. intel is even losing they are only around because of people stuck with onboard. [10:16] jeroenvrp: does that firefox bug happen in all text windows, or only ones with a lot of text already in them? [10:17] h1st0: the gma950s looked like a promising start [10:17] pwnguin: with a lot of text in them [10:17] I working very much on wikipedia, that kind of texts [10:18] jeroenvrp: and im guessing a lot of english text [10:18] pwnguin: that doesnt matter [10:18] au contraire [10:18] does it happen in large texts in your native language? [10:19] also [10:19] both [10:19] hmm [10:19] you think its a spellcheck issue? [10:19] i was thinking it might be due to spellchecking [10:20] When gdm starts i get a window to choose a remote host (xdmcp) in gdm.conf xdmcp is disabled. How does this happen and how do I disable it? [10:20] heh [10:20] jinx [10:20] I checked that also === Pyro-Child [n=Pyro-Chi@220-245-171-164.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Pyro-Child [n=Pyro-Chi@220-245-171-164.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === borg_ [n=olaf@80.149.17.21] has joined #ubuntu+1 === AnRkey_ [n=AnRkey@host-83-146-42-229.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:21] jeroenvrp: its possible the kde font rendering is screwy [10:22] it on a (Dell d620) laptop if that helps\ [10:22] pwnguin: well no problems in feisty and before [10:22] but maybe its already resolved === compwiz18 [n=adam18@221.223.239.123] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:23] I still get random lock ups in gusty though. [10:23] have to update again for that [10:23] jeroenvrp: it might be a case of "works for me on my awesome machine" [10:23] 2ghz core duo [10:24] might be not as fast as whatever that via's got on it [10:24] err [10:24] i might not notice the slow performance because my hardware's a lot faster, is what i mean === Zdra [n=zdra@91.177.27.48] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jscinoz [n=jscinoz@203-158-53-181.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === angel25_ [n=knight54@CBL212-235-2-65.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:27] i installed ubuntu server 7.04 on Intel Core 1.83 with 2 GB RAM (1 stick) and everyting working good , when i increase my memory to 4 GB the system got stuck and move very slowly, on the start i get an error under : loading hardware drivers - e1000: eth0: e1000_request irq unable to allocate msi interrupt error -22 someone please can help me ? [10:28] pwnguin: proberly [10:28] how can i fix that problem ? [10:29]