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| nickrud | ok, livingdaylight | 12:11 |
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| livingdaylight | nickrud, ^^ | 12:11 |
| nickrud | put the contents of /etc/fstab, on a pastebin | 12:12 |
| livingdaylight | nickrud, /etc/fstab output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36961/ | 12:14 |
| nickrud | livingdaylight: looks good; do you see all of your files in /home/you ? | 12:16 |
| nalioth | nickrud! howdy! | 12:16 |
| livingdaylight | yes, but i don't see my external hard drive... but the lights are constantly flickering | 12:16 |
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| livingdaylight | nickrud, and when i tried to run Amarok it did an 'update' and it seemed it was drawing the music from the external | 12:17 |
| nickrud | nalioth: ho you doin | 12:17 |
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| nalioth | nickrud: mind if if chip in? | 12:17 |
| nickrud | nalioth: please do, I've got three things going at once | 12:17 |
| nalioth | livingdaylight: can you open a terminal, please? | 12:18 |
| nickrud | nalioth: livingdaylight moved his home to his external, he's about to investigate if it was done properly | 12:18 |
| livingdaylight | nalioth, sure | 12:18 |
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| nalioth | oh, hi jrib :) i was just warming up the audience for ya | 12:19 |
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| nalioth | nickrud: nah, it's all good | 12:19 |
| nickrud | lol, a joke :) | 12:19 |
| livingdaylight | :/ | 12:19 |
| nalioth | livingdaylight: type 'ls /media' and see if you see anything | 12:19 |
| livingdaylight | nalioth, cdrom cdrom0 cdrom1 floppy floppy0 | 12:20 |
| nalioth | livingdaylight: gnome or kde ? | 12:20 |
| livingdaylight | gnome | 12:20 |
| nalioth | livingdaylight: in nautilus, hit "go > computer" and see what's there | 12:21 |
| livingdaylight | nalioth, i got an external 2.5 usb hard drive. I wanted to convert it for storage/backup | 12:21 |
| livingdaylight | i followed this psychocats howto: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome | 12:22 |
| livingdaylight | i adapted that and got to the bit at the end after rebooting but havent removedbackup: sudo rm -rf /home_backup | 12:23 |
| livingdaylight | nalioth, i see 6 there: floppy; cdrom1; cdrom2; cd-rw drive; cd-rw/ dvd+/-rw drive; filesystem | 12:25 |
| livingdaylight | nalioth, i feel like adding that final line: sudo rm -rf /home_backup | 12:27 |
| livingdaylight | to complete the process | 12:27 |
| nickrud | livingdaylight: ok, it looks like you are using the external for home, since you see it all there and when you use amarok you're writing to the external | 12:28 |
| livingdaylight | nickrud, the external wasn't meant to replace my ubuntu... but as storage only to write to | 12:28 |
| nickrud | livingdaylight: then why did you say you wanted to use it for home? heh. Pelo(?) and I both heard that | 12:29 |
| livingdaylight | nickrud, how to i make my Desktop primary as it were, again? | 12:29 |
| nickrud | livingdaylight: remove the /home line in /etc/fstab, and cp the stuff back from /home_backup back to /home/<you>. | 12:30 |
| livingdaylight | no, that is just it... i said that i wanted to put things from my /home in there! | 12:30 |
| livingdaylight | not to replace or use it as /home | 12:30 |
| livingdaylight | that is why i was happy just to be able to drag and drop things in it... but you guys kept telling me i would lose the settings and it wasn't the right way to go about it | 12:30 |
| nickrud | oh, then just plug it in, and drag & drop. Thats why we kept talking about keeping your settings :) | 12:30 |
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| livingdaylight | i kept asking why i had to follow that guide... coz i was happy to just copy and paste and use the external for data storage... i was very resitant to following the guide if you recall | 12:32 |
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| livingdaylight | so, what now? if i remove external will everything still be in my /home (that is the main thing first of all) | 12:32 |
| livingdaylight | because i also said i didn't want to save 'everything' in my /home but wanted to pick and choose | 12:33 |
| nickrud | livingdaylight: sorry was away for a sec. If you haven't deleted it, its' still there, in /home_backup | 12:35 |
| livingdaylight | ok | 12:35 |
| livingdaylight | that is why i held back on that last one: sudo rm -rf /home_backup | 12:35 |
| nickrud | livingdaylight: looking back, Jordan_U and I definitely weren't listening :) | 12:35 |
| nickrud | livingdaylight: sorry is all I can say, and I am | 12:36 |
| livingdaylight | everyone was telling me to follow that guide. He initially told me to adapt it to my situation... i didn't see how it was what i needed. I just wnated to be able to have 'write' rights in it.. and as you recall i had issues with formatting the thing coz nautilus would jump in and i had to get out of x in the end... but after i managed that and chown user:user /media/sdb1 i was happy | 12:38 |
| livingdaylight | nickrud, np :D | 12:38 |
| nickrud | livingdaylight: damn, well, to cover my butt I'll claim that you learned a lot ;) | 12:38 |
| livingdaylight | LoL...if you can just help me revert things back... | 12:38 |
| livingdaylight | lol | 12:38 |
| livingdaylight | i did a bit... so, it wasn't hours totally wasted | 12:39 |
| nickrud | livingdaylight: sure. first, do sudo -i | 12:39 |
| livingdaylight | nickrud, ok, i'm root | 12:40 |
| nickrud | livingdaylight: now, umount /home | 12:40 |
| livingdaylight | umount: /home: device is busy | 12:40 |
| nickrud | argh. boot into the live cd, it'll be easier all round | 12:41 |
| livingdaylight | hrmmm... have to find my ubuntu live cd then... (its somewhere) | 12:41 |
| jrib | recovery mode will work too | 12:41 |
| nickrud | jrib: true | 12:41 |
| nickrud | assume I've muttered something about root | 12:42 |
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| livingdaylight | nickrud, will any live cd do? can't find feisty | 12:49 |
| nickrud | livingdaylight: you can reboot into recovery mode as well | 12:49 |
| livingdaylight | ok, lets do that | 12:49 |
| livingdaylight | nickrud, what am i doing there? | 12:52 |
| nickrud | ok, umount /home | 12:53 |
| nickrud | we're gonna make sure the /home/<you> directory is good, then set up the external to mount normally when plugged in | 12:53 |
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| livingdaylight | nickrud: ok, umount /home? | 01:02 |
| nickrud | yes | 01:02 |
| livingdaylight | ok | 01:02 |
| livingdaylight | and now? | 01:02 |
| nickrud | now ls /home/<you> , are the files visible? | 01:03 |
| livingdaylight | no | 01:03 |
| nickrud | livingdaylight: ok, does the directory /home/you exist? | 01:04 |
| nickrud | livingdaylight: if not, mkdir /home/you <-- your username | 01:05 |
| livingdaylight | nickrud: sorry, it is there after all... somereason when i first did ls /home/conrad it said there was no such directoryor something.... but i do see it now | 01:06 |
| nickrud | is it empty? | 01:06 |
| livingdaylight | there's also home_backup | 01:06 |
| nickrud | livingdaylight: type mount , and make sure that /home is not mounted | 01:07 |
| livingdaylight | no, its got all my stuff as far asi can tell...yes | 01:07 |
| nickrud | livingdaylight: ok, then nano /etc/fstab , and delete the line mounting home | 01:08 |
| livingdaylight | nickrud: wait... how do i make sure that /home is not mounted? | 01:08 |
| livingdaylight | that was the last line wasn't it? | 01:09 |
| nickrud | livingdaylight: type mount , that will list everything that's mounted. /home and /dev/sdb1 should be no where in that output | 01:09 |
| livingdaylight | the one i added yesterday from that psychocat howto | 01:09 |
| nickrud | livingdaylight: yes | 01:09 |
| livingdaylight | hrmmm.../dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb1 are both mounted | 01:10 |
| livingdaylight | but i don't see /home as such | 01:10 |
| livingdaylight | ahh... | 01:11 |
| nickrud | livingdaylight: what does it say /dev/sbd1 is mounted as? | 01:11 |
| livingdaylight | /dev/sdb1 on /home type ext3 (rw, nosuid, nodev) | 01:11 |
| nickrud | umount /home , check again with mount | 01:11 |
| livingdaylight | thats better | 01:12 |
| nickrud | ok, now check again, are your files in /home/conrad | 01:12 |
| livingdaylight | ok, now nano... | 01:12 |
| nickrud | nano's ok also :) | 01:12 |
| livingdaylight | nickrud: ok | 01:14 |
| livingdaylight | reboot? | 01:14 |
| nickrud | ok, how's /home/conrad looking? | 01:14 |
| livingdaylight | nickrud: there is /home but no /home/conrad :o | 01:16 |
| nickrud | ok mkdir /home/conrad | 01:16 |
| livingdaylight | from where? | 01:17 |
| nickrud | in a terminal | 01:17 |
| nickrud | :) | 01:17 |
| livingdaylight | i'm in a terminal ^^ | 01:17 |
| nickrud | type: mkdir /home/conrad | 01:17 |
| livingdaylight | from /home ? | 01:18 |
| nickrud | anywhere, since that's an absolute path (starts with /) it'll work anywhere | 01:18 |
| livingdaylight | or cd back out of /home where i am justnow | 01:18 |
| livingdaylight | ok | 01:18 |
| livingdaylight | nickrud: done | 01:19 |
| nickrud | argh, lets do this a bit differently that I first intended; rmdir /home/conrad | 01:19 |
| livingdaylight | ok | 01:20 |
| nickrud | now, mv /home_backup /home/conrad | 01:22 |
| livingdaylight | ok | 01:23 |
| nickrud | done? | 01:24 |
| livingdaylight | nickrud: now it looks like /home/conrad/conrad | 01:24 |
| livingdaylight | yes | 01:24 |
| nickrud | livingdaylight: you didn't rmdir /home/conrad :) do mv /home/conrad/conrad /home_backup | 01:25 |
| livingdaylight | nickrud: ok, that's better :D | 01:28 |
| livingdaylight | reboot? | 01:28 |
| nickrud | livingdaylight: ok, you have /home/conrad, with all the files in it? | 01:29 |
| livingdaylight | or i could cfdisk while i'm here | 01:29 |
| livingdaylight | yes | 01:29 |
| nickrud | no1 | 01:29 |
| nickrud | !NO! lol | 01:29 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about no! lol - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi | 01:29 |
| nickrud | run mount one more time, just for fun, check that we really aren't seeing the external | 01:29 |
| livingdaylight | ? | 01:29 |
| nickrud | cfdisk, no! | 01:29 |
| livingdaylight | ok, just that from graphical mode, remember, nautilus always interrupted the process | 01:30 |
| livingdaylight | mount from /home/conrad# works? | 01:30 |
| livingdaylight | or cd out of there? | 01:30 |
| nickrud | first things first | 01:30 |
| nickrud | make sure the external is not mounted | 01:30 |
| nickrud | then ls -l /home/conrad , make sure that everything is conrad:conrad | 01:31 |
| livingdaylight | i only see /dev/sda1 on /type ext3 | 01:31 |
| livingdaylight | proc on /proc tpe proc | 01:31 |
| nickrud | then -ls -l /home , make sure conrad is conrad:conrad | 01:32 |
| livingdaylight | nickrud: yup | 01:32 |
| nickrud | if thats all true, reboot, unplug the external during bios boot, and ping me | 01:33 |
| livingdaylight | well there is no : in between but that is not what ou mean | 01:33 |
| livingdaylight | ok :D | 01:33 |
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| livingdaylight | nickrud: ping | 01:38 |
| nickrud | all good? | 01:38 |
| livingdaylight | yup : ) | 01:39 |
| nickrud | ok, sorry about this again. | 01:39 |
| livingdaylight | no, worries... good learning curve for me | 01:39 |
| nickrud | it's one thing to muck up my own machine, but someone else's, well. Thanks | 01:40 |
| livingdaylight | so, we had the external all setup good yesterday.... get out of X, use cfdisk to reformat and mkfs3 then the chown command and i'm good i think | 01:40 |
| nalioth | nickrud: go have a drink :) | 01:40 |
| nickrud | nalioth: ah, I need to go shoot something up. How about flying out? | 01:41 |
| nickrud | livingdaylight: no need to reformat, just delete the stuff you don't want to keep | 01:41 |
| nalioth | i think it'd work better if you flew here :| | 01:42 |
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| nickrud | maybe next spring, before it gets hot | 01:42 |
| livingdaylight | nickrud: yes, i've just plugged it back in.... its all there in conrad... you're right... i can juset go in and manage it from there as is.... no need to redo it all | 01:43 |
| livingdaylight | nickrud: only thing i suppose is that all the 'setting's are in place taking up extra space? | 01:44 |
| livingdaylight | all the /. files? | 01:44 |
| livingdaylight | or . files whatever they're called the hhidden ones | 01:44 |
| nickrud | livingdaylight: yes, you can open it in nautilus, and use view->show hidden files to find them | 01:45 |
| nalioth | livingdaylight: you'd be surprised how little space they take up | 01:45 |
| livingdaylight | ok.. sweet | 01:45 |
| livingdaylight | nickrud: Well, that is a result ... Thanks for bearing with me... i appreciate it | 01:46 |
| livingdaylight | we got there in the end LoL | 01:46 |
| nickrud | livingdaylight: thanks for not getting angry. And, very true | 01:46 |
| nickrud | see you about | 01:46 |
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| livingdaylight | ok, cu :D | 01:46 |
| jrib | 1.5G .Tracker wow | 01:47 |
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| nalioth | tonyyarusso: cat got your tongue? | 04:15 |
| tonyyarusso | nalioth: nah - gerbil | 04:16 |
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| emerzh | RE all ;) | 08:49 |
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| niluge | bonjour | 10:48 |
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