=== zaius [n=zaius@60-241-41-69.static.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === unggnu [n=unggnu@ip79.134.1511H-CUD12K-03.ish.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:42] hi all [12:43] Today was a new acpi-support version release for Gutsy but the sonybright.sh issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/136380 hasn't been fixed. Is something wrong with the patch? [12:43] Launchpad bug 136380 in acpi-support "[Gutsy] sonybright.sh doesn't use the correct value range" [Undecided,New] [12:45] No, it was simply uploaded for other issues [12:46] I am afraid that this bug make it into final. Ok, it is no debian package patch but at least it should be clear what is wrong. === milli [n=milli@famfrit.acmeps.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:50] Is there any how to what is the best way to post patches? === calc [n=ccheney@conr-adsl-209-169-124-200.consolidated.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:00] If I post a bug in Launchpad it tries to find similar bugs which is great but it often shown duplicates. Isn't it better to show the main bug an not the duplicate? It should use the duplicate to find a similar one but then only show the main bug imho. === jml [n=jml@ppp121-44-221-92.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:06] unggnu: sounds like a good suggestion, could you file a bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/malone/+filebug ? [01:06] pochu: For Launchpad? [01:07] yeah, the dups thing [01:07] Ok, thanks. === Pici [n=Pici@ool-4355be00.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-101-002.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:16] pochu: There was already a bug report for this issue. https://bugs.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/130526 [01:16] Launchpad bug 130526 in malone "Improve list of duplicates when reporting a bug (order by number of dupes, mark dupes)" [Undecided,New] [01:16] ciao === unggnu [n=unggnu@ip79.134.1511H-CUD12K-03.ish.de] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:23] ls === bigon [i=bigon@213.219.161.188.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tehk [n=tehk@c-69-249-157-157.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gouki_ [n=gouki@ubuntu/member/gouki] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ScottLij [n=scott@24-180-196-49.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jml [n=jml@ppp121-44-221-92.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Pici [n=Pici@ool-4355be00.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === roostishaw [n=roostish@cpe-76-168-220-232.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === roostishaw [n=roostish@cpe-76-168-220-232.socal.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === marcreichelt [n=marc@P6115.pallas.wh.tu-darmstadt.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === marcreichelt [n=marc@P6115.pallas.wh.tu-darmstadt.de] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === kgoetz [n=kgoetz@gnewsense/friend/kgoetz] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === jml [n=jml@ppp121-44-221-92.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:20] https://launchpad.net/apt-mark-sync in case anyone is interested. [02:21] ion_, what is debfoster? :P [02:21] and people are sleeping :D [02:21] pygi: apt-cache show debfoster [02:22] ion_, at this time of day? xD === jamesh [n=james@canonical/launchpad/jamesh] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:22] right [02:22] good night =) === tehk [n=tehk@c-69-249-157-157.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ionstorm [n=ion@71-36-164-32.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:23] Night [02:24] anyone have an idea why with my macbook and the latest madwifi drivers under feisty i see my AP but when i enter the key, no dhcp response... [02:24] ? === albert23 [n=albert@86.81.99.204] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === mantha [n=mantha@adsl-75-0-0-49.dsl.renocs.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === no0tic [i=no0tic@unaffiliated/no0tic] has joined #ubuntu-devel === no0tic [i=no0tic@unaffiliated/no0tic] has left #ubuntu-devel ["No] === ionstorm [n=ion@71-36-164-32.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jwendell [n=wendell@ubuntu/member/wendell] has joined #ubuntu-devel === xhaker [n=xhaker@a81-84-26-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@79.210.227.137] has joined #ubuntu-devel === geser [i=mb@2002:5361:2a04:0:0:0:0:1] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mayeco [n=mayeco@201.218.109.25] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:11] 21:13 -!- geser [i=mb@2002:5361:2a04:0:0:0:0:1] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:11] cool is that IPv6? [03:11] yes, ipv6-over-ipv4 [03:12] cool [03:12] it really is :) [03:13] Speaking of IPv6, i hacked IPv6 reverses to all machines in my LAN. They advertise their addresses using Avahi, and the DNS box queries the addresses and updates the DNS records on demand. [03:14] Thus, this box is seen by the outside world as luotain.lan.heh.fi === jack_wyt [n=jack@124.64.107.9] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdong_ [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Pici [n=Pici@ool-4355be00.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === infinity [n=adconrad@cerberus.0c3.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jml_ [n=jml@203-113-250-169-static.TAS.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === PawpawYoung [n=young@218.240.129.197] has joined #ubuntu-devel === PawpawYoung [n=young@218.240.129.197] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@211.94.35.200] has joined #ubuntu-devel === DShepherd [n=dwight@72.252.133.113] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stuart_ [n=stuart@203-97-179-200.reserved.telstraclear.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:29] hi everyone, does this udev rule look correct? ACTION=="add", BUS=="usb", SYSFS{model}=="MHT2020AT*", RUN+="/usr/local/bin/fht_backup", SYMLINK+="usb_backup_disk" === mthaddon [n=mthaddon@canonical/launchpad/mthaddon] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tehk [n=tehk@c-69-249-157-157.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === josh_whitney [n=josh@cpe-76-179-48-235.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:59] hi, someone on my localnet got this ip address banned from #ubuntu. how do I resolve it? [05:00] go to #ubuntu-ops === josh_whitney [n=josh@cpe-76-179-48-235.maine.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === rodarvus [i=rodarvus@ubuntu/member/rodarvus] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === Shely [n=Sea@60.20.52.47] has joined #ubuntu-devel === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jml_ [n=jml@ppp121-44-221-92.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ionstorm [n=ion@71-223-103-74.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === asisak [n=conp@ubuntu/member/coNP] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:05] Good morning! [07:06] morning pitti [07:08] Morning pitti! [07:08] pitti: How was your holiday? [07:09] hey StevenK, hi pygi [07:09] StevenK: we truly enjoyed it, Paris is great [07:10] pitti: Now that you're back at work, can you do a bunch of NBS stuff? :-) [07:11] pitti: I *think* -10 of the kernel can be NBS'd out, along with a whole bunch of everything else - my suggestion is kill everything that is zero sized and then regenerate the list. [07:12] StevenK: right, I'll do that === ScottLij [n=scott@24-180-196-49.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:14] pitti: NBS'ing out everything zero-sized will also make another five or six also hit zero-size after the list is regenerated. === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-1-87.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:18] hey thekorn [07:19] hey pitti === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:19] how was your vacation? === porthose [n=charliej@24-119-101-247.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jetscreamer [n=jetscrea@unaffiliated/jetscreamer] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ArneGoetje [n=arne@flat.iis.sinica.edu.tw] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:19] thekorn: thanks for the apport porting to the new p-lp-bugs; however, the retracers now throw some exceptions, can I bother you with some questions today? [07:19] thekorn: we loved it, Paris is great [07:20] pitti: yes, sure === nags [n=nags@125.16.129.16] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:25] StevenK: slaughtery committed [07:26] pitti: Yay! You need to wait for the publisher to run/finish before re-generating? [07:28] StevenK: yep === porthose [n=charliej@24-119-101-247.cpe.cableone.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [07:31] pitti, do you know how mvo builds the big .tar.gz that contains all the .desktop and and icons files that go into app-install-data? It appears his update script for it grabs them from a big .tar.gz sitting in his people.ubuntu.com directory [07:31] superm1: unfortunately I don't know this; this is a special upload magic method [07:32] okay i'll just shoot him a mail then, thx :) [07:39] StevenK: Maybe while he's in a slaughtering mood, he'll process some removal bugs ... [07:42] ScottK: Heh, maybe. [07:46] pitti (aka The Grim Reaper) ;-) [07:50] ScottK: if you need something urgently, I can do it now; otherwise, Friday is my archive day [07:50] pitti: No, no rush. Friday will be fine. [07:50] Just having fun with the slaughtering motif. [07:51] Good night all. I'm off to sleep. [07:51] g'night Scott [07:52] night ScottK === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:08] I guess that means the new PAM works. [08:08] StevenK: so far it does fine :) === Gasten [n=Gasten@h52n9c1o1095.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === StevenK idly wonders who he can beg to accept the new virtualbox-ose upload. === Nicke [n=niclasa@ua-83-227-140-135.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel === kagou [n=Patrice@86.68.56.120] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:13] good morning === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F73EED.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:15] good morning [08:18] morning dholbach [08:19] hey pygi === jetscreamer [n=jetscrea@unaffiliated/jetscreamer] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Lure_ [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Zic [n=Zic@ubuntu/member/zic] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:28] dholbach: why did you make bluez-utils build-dep on gstreamer-tools rather than libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-dev? [08:29] (and libgstreamer0.10-dev) [08:29] Mithrandir: gstreamer-tools is required for dh_gstscancodecs [08:29] ah, ok [08:29] Mithrandir: I guess I forgot to add the other build-dep [08:29] and didn't run the build in pbuilder, so I did not notice that the build-dep was missing === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-1-87.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:44] pitti: You should be able to regenerate the NBS list now, right? === ant30 [n=aperezar@19.Red-80-59-20.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-1-87.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:45] StevenK: right, doing now [08:52] Hum. [08:52] Maintainer: Peter Zhu , Ubuntu MOTU Developers tu@lists.ubuntu.com> [08:52] I don't even think that's legal. [08:56] StevenK: http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS/ is updated [08:56] pitti: Yay, thank you. [08:56] StevenK: maintainer> right, there should only be one; but I guess few programs actually rely on that [08:57] StevenK: I kill the two without remaining rdeps [08:57] pitti: Way cool. [08:57] pitti: maybe you can double-check the fstack-protector/nostdlib thing, planned to upload 4.1 with this one as well === MacSlow [n=mirco@unaffiliated/macslow] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:58] doko: yep, I can, once it's built and in the archive [08:58] Greetings everybody! [08:58] infinity: Ping, libnss-db some more. === StevenK works on getting missioncontrol{0,-dev} killed. === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-1-87.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === marcheu [n=marcheu@lattice.u-strasbg.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:16] pitti: are you fixing the ftbfs in libcgi? [09:16] Mithrandir: I got a lot of FTBFS from the maintainer: rebuilds, I probably won't fix them all [09:16] ok [09:16] Mithrandir: if this one is particularly important, I can look into it, of course [09:16] nah, I'm just looking at my lp-buildd-admins mbox [09:17] but since most of these packages haven't been touched for ages, I won't waste much time on them in general === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-1-87.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:18] hm, I wonder if there's a good mechanism I can add to packages maintained in revision control to tell people to submit patches properly rather than just uploading new versions of them. [09:18] (apart from X-VCS) [09:19] X-Commit-Do-Not-Upload: True ? :-P [09:20] We need the bit of NoMoreSourcePackages where Soyuz rejects non-VCSed uploads for VCSed source packages. [09:20] Fujitsu: something like that, yes. [09:20] I'm wondering if I can get it done in the package, though === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-85-27-68-188.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Company [n=Company@e176104149.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === DktrKranz [n=irc@ubuntu/member/dktrkranz] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:40] dholbach, do you have time to review a segfault fix for bluez-libs in bug 126068 ? [09:40] Launchpad bug 126068 in bluez-libs "Pybluez segfaults if bluez not running" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/126068 [09:41] thekorn: ah, p-lp-bugs 0.2.10 might actually resolve one of the crashes [09:43] pitti: ah, ok, do you have any tracebacks or error messages I can check? [09:43] thekorn: I'll look into it in a bit, once the updated deb is in the archive, I'll restart the retracers and watch the logs [09:44] ok, ping me if you need some help with py-lp-bugs === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jml [n=jml@ppp121-44-221-92.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Zdra [n=zdra@91.177.27.126] has joined #ubuntu-devel === raphink [i=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:47] pitti: hi === calc decided not to sleep tonight [09:48] hey calc [09:48] calc: why not? === rulus [n=rulus_|@d54C1A033.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:48] my wife can't sleep and she won't shut up [09:48] so i am working instead of sleeping :\ [09:49] i need another bed for situations like this ;) [09:49] ...So your wife decided youll not sleep tonight? [09:49] pitti: oh did you get my message about suitesparse? [09:49] ion_: more or less, not her fault she has insomnia, we are taking her to the doctor tomorrow to have it checked [09:50] calc: I did; I didn't check for an MIR yet, though [09:50] pitti: it was in main until Sept 5 [09:50] calc: why upload rc1, if rc2 is released? [09:50] pitti: i can do a MIR if needed [09:50] doko: why upload at all when 2.3.0 will be out ~ thursday... [09:51] doko: i had rc1 done already and tested i didn't have rc2 tested [09:51] and yes 2.3.0 should be out around wed/thu this week aiui [09:52] ahh, ok. please don't upload the -l10n package immediately, but loosen the deps instead, and include the updated translations from launchpad === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:55] calc: hmm, debian changelog not in the changes file === chand [n=rsamson@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === calc needs to make a script that kicks him when he doesn't use -v === calc wishes dpkg-buildpackage was smart enough to do it on its own as well :\ [09:59] either part the including the entries or kicking me when i don't use -v, either would suffice ;) === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AlinuxOS [n=vsichi@host57-130-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:06] calc: it does print out a warning about it already [10:07] hello pitti, nice to re-see you ;) [10:07] bonjour AlinuxOS! [10:08] pitti, one fast question, is there daily lang-packages for gutsy ? === cjwatson [n=cjwatson@82-69-40-219.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:09] AlinuxOS: it was disabled for a while due to some bad circumstances, but I just uploaded fresh ones and re-enabled the cronjobs === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.100.141] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:10] asac, good morning, how is going https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mozilla-firefox-locale-all/+bug/88677 fixing?Sorry for refreshing you via IRC :) [10:10] Launchpad bug 88677 in mozilla-firefox-locale-all "Georgian Language support." [Undecided,Confirmed] [10:11] pitti, ah, so it's usable now right ? [10:11] AlinuxOS: they are not built yet, but will be soon [10:11] pitti, ah ok ;) [10:11] nice too hear. thank you. [10:12] pitti: oh, hmm i missed that somehow, i'll look to see if i can find the warning === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:12] pitti, I suppose this is a rep right? deb http://ppa.dogfood.launchpad.net/ubuntu-langpack/ubuntu gutsy main [10:12] AlinuxOS: nope, gutsy updates are uploaded straight into gutsy proper [10:13] pitti: i don't see the warning though i may be blind [10:13] pitti: at least not in my build log === Watersevenub [n=Watersev@242-153.dial.nortenet.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:13] pitti, I was talking about daily langpack updates. [10:13] AlinuxOS: so was I [10:14] pitti, ;) ok thanks [10:15] WARNING generated by debuild: [10:15] Ubuntu merge policy: when merging Ubuntu packages with Debian, -v must be used [10:15] calc: ^ [10:15] calc: I get this (from debuild) [10:18] <\sh> uh...what happened to the mouse under gnome? [10:19] pitti: cool i wonder why mine doesn't say that [10:20] pitti: i built with debuild -sa -S -us -uc [10:20] pitti: would that cause the problem of not seeing the message maybe? === dholbach_ [n=daniel@i59F728F9.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === glledo [n=gellevi@208.72.153.130] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [10:20] calc: no, that shuold work [10:21] calc: however, it's only shown if $DEBEMAIL =~ /ubuntu/ [10:21] pitti: hmm does that show up in the debuild *.build log? [10:21] DktrKranz: ok [10:21] pitti: oh doh [10:21] i should set my DEBEMAIL var then so it reminds me [10:21] i build in a chroot and don't have that set at all [10:21] DktrKranz: I'll triage the sponsoring queue in a bit [10:22] dholbach: thanks === ivoks [n=ivoks@16-54.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mvo [n=egon@p54A67B46.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Zdra [n=zdra@91.177.27.48] has joined #ubuntu-devel === angel25_ [n=knight54@CBL212-235-2-65.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:27] i installed ubuntu server 7.04 on Intel Core 1.83 with 2 GB RAM (1 stick) and everyting working good , when i increase my memory to 4 GB the system got stuck and move very slowly, on the start i get an error under : loading hardware drivers - e1000: eth0: e1000_request irq unable to allocate msi interrupt error -22 someone please can help me ? === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:31] pitti: hi martin, welcome back! have you some time have a look at plr SRUs proposals in bug 130059 ? [10:31] Launchpad bug 130059 in plr "[SRU] R_HOME environmental variable not set" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130059 === pochu [n=emilio@84.Red-83-57-218.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:33] pitti: hmm i still don't get the warning even with it set, eg [10:33] dpkg-genchanges: including full source code in upload [10:33] ver: 1:2.3.0~rc1-1ubuntu1 since: debemail:ccheney@ubuntu.com [10:33] dpkg-buildpackage (debuild emulation): source only upload (original source is included) [10:33] very odd :-\ [10:33] debuild is out to get me, heh [10:34] calc: Does your DEBEMAIL have "ubuntu" in it somewhere? [10:34] soren: notice debuild output says debemail = ccheney@ubuntu.com [10:35] calc: erk, there's still some debugging output there, I should remove that [10:35] heh [10:35] calc: debuild itself generates the warning, btw [10:35] calc: Oh, right :) === vicktor [n=knight54@CBL212-235-2-65.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:35] calc: and the changelog entry has to =~ /merge.*Debian/i [10:36] calc: I know, it's a weird heuristics, that's why it doesn't live in dpkg itself [10:36] oh gr i used different wording in my changelog [10:36] * Resynchronise with Debian. Remaining changes [10:36] calc: ah [10:36] so it doesn't like my changelog entry i guess [10:36] calc: I'll change the regex for that [10:36] calc: along with removing that debugging stuff === rbrunhuber [n=Miranda@highway.mvi.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:36] thanks [10:39] DktrKranz: reviewed, I updated the bug [10:41] pitti: thanks. === greeneggsnospam [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-1-87.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:53] jdstrand: yes. the control actually works properly at the moment, but the brightness indicator on-screen is borked === mc44 [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has joined #ubuntu-devel === albert23 [n=albert@86.81.99.204] has joined #ubuntu-devel === greeneggsnospam [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti celebrates his 1000th apport commit === soren hugs pitt === soren hugs pitti, too [11:07] hi pitti [11:07] \o/ [11:07] hey mhb [11:09] pitti: zasf had some bug fixes for r-m, before you upload them, I would like to have a look if those bugs don't appear in KDE frontend, too [11:10] by "upload" I meant merge with the main branch, not uploading itself [11:10] mhb: alright, thanks for the notice === dholbach hugs pitti [11:16] siretart: ping [11:18] pitti: have 5 minutes to discuss libgphoto2? [11:18] Lure: doing some other things, but just ask [11:19] pitti: I did merge to try libgphoto2 2.4.0 (new upstream release), but have found one issue with debian/libgphoto2-2.postinst [11:19] Lure: did you get UVFE for that? [11:19] pitti: it looks like one condition (version check) is in reverse and I am concerned if it is ok at all in current package [11:20] pitti: not yet, as I would like to have wider testing through ppa and then ask you what do you feel about it [11:20] Lure: looking [11:20] pitti: good thing that api stays (just new functions added) [11:20] Hrm. Who's archive day is it today? [11:20] pitti: [11:20] if which udevinfo >/dev/null && udevinfo -V | awk '{if ($3 >= 98) e [11:20] xit 1}'; then [11:20] This exit 1 seems to be wrong, based on what is executed afterwards [11:21] Lure: I think it's correct [11:21] pitti: on current gutsy, "else" part print usage of print-camera-list into udev rule file [11:21] Lure: the problem is that udev-rules-0.98 has a weird semantics [11:22] pitti: but exit 1, makes condition false [11:22] Lure: oh, I guess they removed the pre-0.98 syntax in 2.4? [11:22] pitti: looks like, but I still think condition is wrong in current package [11:22] pitti: I can fix 2.4 properly (remove 0.98 case) [11:22] Lure: for a new gutsy merge the entire if should just be removed, and replaced with a single p-c-l call [11:23] pitti: exactly [11:23] Lure: this was mainly introduced to keep the feisty package backportable to edgy [11:23] pitti: ok, that was the reason [11:24] morning [11:24] hey geser [11:24] pitti: will complete the merge then and will upload to my PPA and ask for review/UVF later (when confirmed with some users it still works fine with most apps) [11:25] Lure: great, thanks; I did the last merge IIRC, so I'd be interested in reviewing it [11:26] pitti: that is why I waited for you to come back from vacation to check it at all makes sense to ask for UVF ;-) [11:27] does somebody know why the gnuradio source is in universe but all the binaries in multiverse? [11:28] geser: probably just an oversight when NEWing it [11:29] geser: hm, do you see a reason why it should be in multiverse? [11:30] pitti: libmissioncontrol{0,-dev} is ready to NBS out at your leisure. [11:30] geser: I moved it to universe for now (debian/copyright is GPL and it's in Debian main) [11:31] pitti: thanks, I don't know a reason why it should be in multiverse. [11:31] StevenK: done, thanks! === boggle [n=spindler@modemcable045.37-82-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:41] pitti: Thanks! === jonibo [n=jonas@193.12.106.2] has joined #ubuntu-devel === carlos [n=carlos@canonical/launchpad/carlos] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mfolnovich [n=mfolnovi@34-83.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mfolnovich [n=mfolnovi@34-83.dsl.iskon.hr] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === MagnusR [n=magru@d31192.smhi.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lucky_lucas [n=lucas@192.83.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu-devel === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:55] pitti: do you also handle UVFe for packages in main? [11:56] geser: yes, I can do that [11:56] I've started to look on boost (bug #134684) [11:56] Launchpad bug 134684 in boost "Upgrade to Version 1.34.1" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134684 [11:56] the linked list of fixed problems looks interesting [11:57] I've uploaded a merged boost to my PPA and started to check if packages build-depending on it still build [11:57] I didn't get far as my PPA is nearly full [11:58] I checked the 3 packages from main depending on boost and some from universe [11:59] 57 packages from universe are still to be checked :( [12:00] geser: hm, which applications would actually benefit from that? [12:01] in main kdepim, kdeedu and libwibble build-depend on it [12:01] geser: I mean benefit from the bug fixes to fix visible bugs [12:02] I don't know if there are any filed bugs === allee [n=ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Watersevenub [n=Watersev@242-39.dial.nortenet.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rraphink [i=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tseliot [n=tseliot@host249-16-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:08] pitti: so no upgrade of boost for gutsy? and the bug asking for it can be closed? [12:08] geser: currently looking === jetscreamer [n=jetscrea@unaffiliated/jetscreamer] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:08] geser: it's only a microversion upgrade [12:09] geser: however, I'd like to see the upstream changelog, and a quick review of the diff [12:09] yes, a bugfix release from 1.34.0 to 1.34.1 [12:09] geser: browsing the diff should give an idea about API breakage and whether things look bugfix-ish, or like major new features [12:09] the problem is that the packages names contain the version and all depending packages need rebuilding [12:10] pitti: ok, will prepare the diff [12:10] geser: merci [12:17] iwj: is bug 134358 ok to upload? [12:17] Launchpad bug 134358 in hexter "Please merge hexter (0.6.1-2) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134358 === tseliot [n=tseliot@host249-16-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:21] geser: can you confirm that bug 131591 is fixed? it's for me [12:21] Launchpad bug 131591 in poppler "pdftops from poppler-utils 0.5.9-0ubuntu1 produces broken postscript" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131591 [12:25] pitti: yes, it's fixed [12:26] geser: thanks, closed [12:27] iwj: also... does the patch in bug 131858 make sense? shall I assign it to you or do you think there's somebody else who can review it? [12:27] Launchpad bug 131858 in grub "Update-grub does not add savedefault anymore" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131858 [12:27] pitti: re boost: there is no changelog, only the ticket list which got fixed in 1.34.1 (which is also linked from the homepage): http://svn.boost.org/trac/boost/query?status=closed&milestone=Boost+1.34.1 [12:27] geser: ok, so we need to take a look at the diff [12:28] pitti: a diffstat and a diff between 1.34.0 and 1.34.1 is at http://members.ping.de/~mb/boost/ === rraphink [i=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:30] geser: filterdiff -x "*.html" boost.diff |grep -v ^diff is much better to read :-) reviewing now [12:34] geser: why was the python2.5-dev b-dep changed to python2.4-dev? that looks wrong [12:38] pitti: it's a change made by Debian [12:38] geser: bug updated [12:38] I diff the old Ubuntu packages with the new one [12:39] pitti: all the python-*-dev build-depends look a little bit duplicate for me === Robot101 [n=robot101@light.bluelinux.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=jack@124.64.107.9] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:40] geser: right, python-dev already pulls in 2.5-dev, but 2.4-dev seems to be wrong, unless we reintroduce the elementtree dep with sth. like "Depends: python2.5 | python-elementtree" === Keybuk [n=scott@quest.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:45] looking at the Debian bug it was done as python2.4 is still default in Debian, so it should be safe to change it back [12:46] pitti: build logs for boost, kdepim, kdeedu and libwibble at https://launchpad.net/~geser/+archive/+builds?build_text=&build_state=all [12:47] geser: ah, cool; if everything builds, I'm fine with it [12:47] the miro FTBFS dies at linking with boost as it tries the old lib name === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:50] asac: pong [12:50] siretart: hi ... about wpasupplicant .) [12:51] siretart: some operations take ages some times ... e.g. terminate [12:51] siretart: any idea what wpasupplicant might be doing? === xhaker [n=xhaker@a81-84-26-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:53] huh? I never noticed that [12:53] asac: is it perhaps in state 'D' while hanging? [12:53] that would indicate it was waiting for a system call to finish [12:55] siretart: how can i see that state? [12:55] siretart: my guts feeling suggests that its some system call ... however i am not sure how to best track that === jrib [n=jrib@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:56] siretart: you can easily see that when you use the latest opennet branch ... i increased timeout for some operations in nm ... but still sometimes it just fails. [12:56] siretart: would be really great if you could help a bit ;) === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:57] siretart: if you don't want to compile nm ... just wait a few hours, I will upload that branch now anyways. === mvo [n=egon@p54A67B46.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:57] asac: you can see the process state with tools like 'top' or 'ps' [12:58] ah ... let me see [12:58] asac: other 'normal' states are 'S' for sleeping, or 'R' for running. 'D' is 'I'm hanging during some system call' [12:58] asac: is there a bug number for this issue? [12:58] I'm happy to take a look at it, but first I need to be able to reproduce that [12:58] siretart: no ... i asked you because i am not sure if that is a known issue ;) [12:59] siretart: sure ... should be rather simple [12:59] siretart: i will ping you once new nm is rolled [12:59] siretart: you can see it now in nm as well ... there are often "couldn't connect to supplicant errors" when you switch networks for instance [12:59] if it is indeed a system call which blocks it, there isn't much we can do on the supplicant side. it's a(nother) driver problem then [12:59] asac: ipw3945 loves me again === agoliveira [n=adilson@200.146.45.11.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:59] Thanks! [01:00] mjg59: yeah ;) ... i am happy that it appears to have cured most :) [01:00] mjg59: thanks for the feedback === siretart hugs asac [01:00] :) === siretart lunch, cu later! [01:01] siretart: the intersting thing is that i see the same timeout issues even though i am using a different driver [01:01] asac: network-manager is fine for me now after updating to the latest version. when the interface is manually managed it does not longer thinks its not configured, but correctly keeps its hands away [01:02] mvo: strange ;) [01:02] mvo: there wasn't really a change related to something like that ;) [01:02] but happy that it works now :) [01:03] asac: I only infrequently upgrade my notebook, its quite possilbe that the change is already ~4 weeks old :) [01:07] ah ok [01:07] let me know when it reappears === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@ubuntu/member/rodarvus] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:08] mvo: its pretty important that users are not offlin if they use /e/n/i ;) [01:08] sure [01:08] I keep a eye open === bigon [i=bigon@213.219.161.188.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === glatzor [n=renate@p57AEDA65.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === DktrKranz [n=Luca@ubuntu/member/dktrkranz] has joined #ubuntu-devel === raphink [i=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ryu [n=chris@unaffiliated/ryu] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:16] mvo: do you already know about the ImportError crash on livecd start from update-app-install? === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:19] pitti: is this still a issue with 0.4.8-0ubuntu2 ? this version was meant to fix it [01:21] mvo: I just tested the current i386 live === cprov [n=cprov@canonical/launchpad/cprov] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:21] pitti: could you please check the version of gnome-app-install on it? I sync a new image now, but it will take a bit until I have it [01:21] mvo: which package is that? [01:22] 0.4.8-0ubuntu1 [01:22] ok [01:22] -ubuntu2 should fix it [01:22] mvo: ah, ok, so I'll check tomorrow's; thanks! [01:22] cheers [01:23] -ubuntu2 was uploaded a couple of days ago, before the weekend - I wonder why its not there yet [01:23] today's live CD build broke, which was my fault [01:23] should be fixed shortly [01:23] mvo: see above :) [01:23] I'll poke through a new live CD build now === ivoks [n=ivoks@8-101.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:24] :) [01:24] ok [01:24] np === Kopfgeldjaeger [n=nicolai@p54AD4876.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:25] cjwatson, mdz: hi, around? [01:25] carlos: on the phone. what's up? [01:26] cjwatson, mdz: I wonder whether we could add a policy to force a package rebuild when we move it from universe to main if it has translations [01:26] otherwise, the application cannot be translated in Launchpad neither appears in language packs [01:26] it would be rather inconvenient to force it [01:26] until a new version is rebuilt [01:27] carlos: I think that rather we should ensure (when we do a global rebuild test) that no cases like this exist, and force rebuilds where necessary at that time [01:27] is there a huge problem with just waiting until it's uploaded again in the normal course of development? [01:27] (or reporting on it, as mdz suggests) [01:27] at string freeze, say, we could do any needed rebuilds then [01:27] cjwatson: well, the only problem is that users asks us to fix it, and we redirect them again to package maintainers [01:27] carlos: the workflow for packages being moved from universe to main is not geared to let us easily do this sort of thing immediately [01:27] other than that... nothing [01:28] ok [01:28] if we had the facility for central binary-only rebuilds, it would be trivial, but as it is it requires a source upload [01:29] carlos: is it possible for you to produce a list of packages in main for which you do not have translation tarballs? === shiyee [n=Shiyee@homer.appl.cs.aau.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:29] cjwatson: we have a spec to produce such report, although is not yet implemented [01:30] that would seem like the most straightforward answer [01:32] anyway, that would include also packages that cannot be translated as false positives (still need to think on a way to remove them from the report) [01:32] Mithrandir: to get a workaround for bug #131976, I'd like to create a casper hook which disables the AppArmor profile for cups on the live cd; would I ship that in the cupsys package, or in casper proper? [01:32] Launchpad bug 131976 in cupsys "fails to start: cannot apply additional memory protection after relocation" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131976 [01:33] pitti: traditionally, I've shipped all those hacks in casper itself. [01:33] Mithrandir: right, by the looks of it it has all sorts of package specific hacks, but I wanted to get a second opinion [01:33] BenC: do you think I should assign review bugs for the kernel team to canonical-kernel-team instead of ubuntu-kernel-team? === ionstorm [n=ion@71-223-67-22.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _MMA_ [n=_MMA_@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:37] pitti: if you want a third opinion, I agree with Mithrandir - ship it in casper [01:37] cjwatson: thanks; I'll do that === AlienX [n=theanswr@unaffiliated/alienx] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jwendell [n=wendell@ubuntu/member/wendell] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:39] pitti: I see cryptsetup is on the approved-for-main list now. Should we promote that and all the d-i bits for it too? I know we're past feature freeze ... [01:41] cjwatson: promotion is fine for me if it works properly now [01:41] cjwatson: I'd rather apply the FF to the package itself [01:41] cjwatson: the d-i bits might fall under FF once they get installed by default, I figure? [01:41] they won't be used by default, merely provided as options [01:42] cjwatson: is that the module which allows you to create LUKS encrypted partitions in partman? [01:42] right [01:42] default> right, that's why I'm not too concerned about it [01:42] in the unlikely case that it breaks the default install, the breakage should be at a level we immediately notice on install tests [01:43] indeed so, and we won't be including it in ubiquity anyway [01:43] ok, I have to go to buy milk now but will look at that when I get back [01:43] (which is a pity... :-) ) [01:43] the ubiquity code would *definitely* fall under feature freeze. :-) === chmj [n=nik0n@138.188.109.13] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TeTeT [n=spindler@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pedro [n=pedro@pc-13-217-44-190.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:00] doko: you about? [02:00] stdin: ? === hoora [i=hoora@gateway/tor/x-f7cdba38ea851f6a] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:01] doko: Lure mentioned you were working on kde-systemsettings, it seems it now need python2.5-dev to work now [02:02] did I mention to work on this? [02:02] doko: recent cleanup of python-qt that you did [02:03] benc: Btw, have you had the chance to apply the patch to nvidia_supported in l-r-m? The newest l-r-m package still contains no modaliases for nvidia_new. [02:03] doko: well, yeah, seems kde-systemsettings tries to access /usr/lib/libpython2.5.so [02:03] Lure, stdin: bug number? === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:04] shouldn't it do that? [02:04] doko: your vectormath package looks odd, libvectormath1 seems to be missing (the -dev package depends on it) and the -dev package includes only headers. Is this intended? [02:04] doko: it is provided by python2.5-dev and not regular package [02:05] geser: yes, working on that ... [02:05] here we go https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-systemsettings/+bug/138189 [02:05] Launchpad bug 138189 in kde-systemsettings "[gutsy] libpython2.5.so is missing" [Undecided,New] [02:05] geser, do you have ubuntu running on the ps3? [02:05] thanks stdin :) [02:06] benc: Btw2, in case you ever need a small program that indicates whether given hardware (by modaliases or a module name) is connected to the system, . It should be useful when making the nvidia stuff automatically make symlinks to different versions of the nvidia drivers based on connected hardware. [02:08] doko: I don't even own a ps3 === cr3 [n=cr3@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:31] siretart: Are you serious with cryptsetup breaking whith /usr being in a separate encrypted filesystem not being a serious problem? === agoliveira is now known as agoliveira_brb === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === deadwill [n=deadwill@146037.fln.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === agoliveira_brb is now known as agoliveira === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-252-237-96.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel === eggauah [n=daniel@20845101.cps.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel === illovae [n=illovae@82.253.175.155] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thingy [n=Jinesh@host217-35-127-237.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ivoks_ [n=ivoks@34-143.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:55] pitti: can you please give-back libglade-java on sparc and libgnome-java on ia64. Thanks. [02:56] geser: done [02:56] hunger: do you think it is? what's the use case? [02:56] hunger: after all, wouldn't it make much more sense, if you have a separate /usr, to have it be the only partition which is *not* encrypted? === thingy [n=Jinesh@host217-35-127-237.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] [02:58]