=== xstasi [n=xstasi@85-18-14-24.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bluekuja [n=and@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Nightrose [n=lydia@amarok/rokymotion/nightrose] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:47] 5~5~5~5~/c [12:47] ugh [12:47] heh [12:51] TheMuso: You have ppc, right? [12:52] The reason I'm asking is that Eclipse FTBFS on ppc for what looks like some kind of arch specific bug/issue/something and I was wondering if you could take a look at it? [12:53] ScottK: Sure thing. I have been working with the firefox guys to get gran-paradiso working on ppc, so I'd be happy to fix more ppc stuff. === TheMuso has pondered starting a MOTU ppc team. === calc [n=ccheney@conr-adsl-209-169-124-200.consolidated.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xstasi [n=xstasi@85-18-14-24.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mattva01 [n=matthew@c-69-143-122-78.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Paddy_EIRE [n=patrick@78.144.25.19] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jml [n=jml@ppp121-44-221-92.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Pici [n=Pici@ool-4355be00.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-101-002.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:18] ScottK: Off the top of your head, what package provides libjawt? [01:19] If you don't know, don't worry, I'll look it up. === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bigon [i=bigon@213.219.161.188.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Frogzoo [n=Frogzoo@202.155.165.25] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-024-012.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gouki_ [n=gouki@ubuntu/member/gouki] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ScottLij [n=scott@24-180-196-49.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _MMA_ [n=_MMA_@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jml [n=jml@ppp121-44-221-92.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:36] <_MMA_> Hi guys. I have a Ardour bug that the devs want reported upstream. How should I mark the bug on LP? bug 138350 [01:36] Launchpad bug 138350 in ardour "[Gutsy] drawing automation in ardour 2.0.5 is broken" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138350 [01:37] _MMA_, mark "also affects project" [01:37] and then you can link it to the upstream bug tracker's bug [01:38] <_MMA_> Hmm... I dont know if I can set that. :-/ === _MMA_ looks around. [01:38] <_MMA_> ahh... [01:38] _MMA_, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ardour/+bug/138350/+choose-affected-product [01:38] Launchpad bug 138350 in ardour "[Gutsy] drawing automation in ardour 2.0.5 is broken" [Undecided,New] [01:39] <_MMA_> superm1: So why would I set this? [01:39] well once its reported upstream, you link the ubuntu bug to the upstream bug [01:39] <_MMA_> And what "project" would it effect? [01:39] and then this is automatically updated as the status changes upstream [01:41] well it might make more sense to link here though https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ardour/+bug/138350/+distrotask [01:41] Launchpad bug 138350 in ardour "[Gutsy] drawing automation in ardour 2.0.5 is broken" [Undecided,New] [01:41] because then you can just paste the url you get from upstream's tracker [01:41] <_MMA_> Ahh... That does look better. [01:42] <_MMA_> I wonder if its better to set the "Distribution" to Ubuntu or Debian? === Pici [n=Pici@ool-4355be00.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:42] <_MMA_> We sync the package from them. [01:44] <_MMA_> TheMuso: Any ideas? ^^^ [01:46] the bug was found in Ubuntu, but exists in the package upstream, then you just need to use upstream's tracker, no need to list debian in the affects as well [01:46] so just copy the URL from mantis after its listed upstream into that box in the second link i pasted, and you will be set [01:47] <_MMA_> Well there's no way to leave that field blank. [01:47] <_MMA_> Wants to set Baltix by default. :) [01:48] <_MMA_> Ill just set it to Ubuntu and be done with it. [01:48] <_MMA_> gahhh. I cant. [01:48] actaully: https://help.launchpad.net/Mantis [01:49] you can link their tracker more directly with that [01:50] <_MMA_> k [01:51] hmm. the default ubuntu install uses debconf priority default, right/ [01:52] im thinking about writing a debconf to enroll user's fingerprints at install, but if nobody ever sees the dialog, that's sorta pointless =( [01:54] pwnguin, are you working on thinkfinger or something similar? [01:55] yes [01:55] if you db_input high the dialog should still be seen [01:55] im putting thinkfinger in my ppa [01:55] <_MMA_> superm1: Ahh... That page says "_ If_ the bug has been reported". It hasnt yet. [01:55] ooo fingerprints [01:55] i've pulled from experimental, and it's still a bit rough [01:55] _MMA_, oh i was under the impression you did report it already upstream :) [01:55] testers welcome [01:55] neat. a buddy of mine just setup fingerprint stuff on his t60p (under feisty though) [01:56] ive been thinkng about backporting [01:56] i'm quite envious of it and now wish my my r50p had a scanner, i would love to test [01:56] it's a bit buggy [01:56] gksu is sorta crap [01:56] <_MMA_> superm1: No. They want it reported. Ill let the user report it. I was just wanting to know how to mark it on LP. [01:57] <_MMA_> superm1: Since _we're_ not fixing it. [01:57] well i'm not sure whether it was thinkfinger my buddy set up or something else. does thinkfinger pop up a little dialog at the time that pam would be asking for the password, soemthing you can X out of? [01:57] thinkfinger just has a pam module afaict [01:58] so you just add to pam's common-auth and let the tools work it out [01:58] unfortunately, GNOME doesn't actually use pam often it seems [01:59] so thinkfinger doesn't provide any interaction for the user to see then [01:59] oh wrong finger [01:59] denied etc [01:59] correct [01:59] let me link you to what he setup, maybe you'll want to package up the additional stuff he has, and make it a suggests/recommends for thinkfinger [02:00] there's a bioapi thing, but im not sure how it works yet [02:00] yea that sounds right [02:00] its different than thinkfinger === khermans [i=khermans@nat/cisco/x-b5be5c7acd3c9822] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:01] pwnguin, http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Ubuntu_6.10_(Edgy_Eft)_on_a_ThinkPad_T60 see that, scroll down to the fingerprint scanner section [02:01] that's exactly what he had followed [02:02] TheMuso: I was afk, but even if I'd been here, I wouldn't have known. [02:02] of course, i have a toshiba [02:02] superm1: theres' a similar guide on the ubuntu wiki [02:03] its probably a bit late to get bioapi into gutsy now, but if no one else ends up taking this up for hardy, i might opt to [02:03] maybe just go and pick up a usb scanner to use to get things testing and such [02:04] like i said, ive already got a ppa of thinkfinger ;) [02:05] well if thinkfinger works with this nice little gui portion that bioapi uses, perhaps best of both worlds is needed [02:06] it doesn't [02:06] its a shame that you didn't get thinkfinger in before the NEW package freeze a little over a week ago [02:06] but it has the advantage of already being in debian-experimental [02:06] a week ago, i was still trying to package helloworld [02:07] i know that Admiral_Chicago was trying to package it some time back, saw someone else had started, and then decided to stop. looks like whoever was working on it didn't get it through either [02:07] pwnguin, well we all have to start at hello world :) [02:07] also, bioapi may be nonfree [02:08] well there is always multiverse for items like that [02:08] hmm [02:08] theres a file called "REDISTRIBUTABLES.TXT" [02:08] It does have to be legally distributable to go into multiverse though. [02:08] this sounds not good [02:10] the eula is 5 pages long [02:10] for source code [02:10] indeed, licensing will have to be queried, and it does worry me that i dont see bioapi sources or a license listed directly here. [02:11] everyone just says install this deb, but without a source package, it's not very helpful === jml [n=jml@ppp121-44-221-92.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:23] TheMuso: I reported the FTBFS on Eclipse as Bug #138498. The other FTBFS on LPIA is Bug #138497. LPIA looks relatively straightforward to deal with, so I'd appreciate it if you would look at that if you look at PPC. Ecplise is a pretty huge package, so I'd rather not upload it to many times. [02:23] Launchpad bug 138498 in eclipse "Eclipse FTBFS on PPC" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138498 [02:23] Launchpad bug 138497 in eclipse "Eclipse FTBFS on LPIA" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138497 === xopher [n=xopher@unaffiliated/xopher] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:27] ScottK: Sure. [02:37] TheMuso: Great. Thanks. 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[03:57] We should start greeting people with anagrams of their nicks and see how long it takes them to reply. === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:57] that's no fun === TheMuso thinks of an anagram plugin for irssi. :p [03:57] ajmitch! [03:58] bseHebo, tgcojasno! === peanutb downloads wordplay [03:58] Hi Hobbsee [03:58] hi geser [03:59] hey yaysunroost === geser goes to bed now, it's 4 am here [03:59] night all [03:59] hey unebpta [04:00] g'night serge === zakame [i=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-052-008.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === porthose [n=charliej@24-119-101-247.cpe.cableone.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [04:09] ouch, just doing a feisty install - 640x480 on the live cd [04:10] which means that I can't even click on the buttons in ubiquity [04:10] :( === freeflying [n=freeflyi@211.94.35.200] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xopher [n=xopher@unaffiliated/xopher] has joined #ubuntu-motu === porthose [n=charliej@24-119-101-247.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === javier_galicia [n=Javier@189.130.233.106] has joined #ubuntu-motu === porthose [n=charliej@24-119-101-247.cpe.cableone.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [04:49] ajmitch: they should have a GtkScolledWindow as the main child widget and put everything in it [04:50] sounds ugly === damir_1105 [n=root@91.191.27.102] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bszmyd [n=bszmyd@c-24-8-191-72.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Whoopie_ [n=Whoopie@unaffiliated/whoopie] has joined #ubuntu-motu === czessi_ [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-041-170.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Whoopie_ is now known as Whoopie === apachelogger_ [n=me@N948P022.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-058-196.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:49] can trackerd kill a system? [05:49] it can make it *really* slow [05:50] well, I keep getting hard freezes [05:50] this last time it was absolutely hard [05:50] the mouse moved around [05:50] and music played [05:50] so not a hard freeze [05:51] but the screen froze otherwise and I couldn't get to console [05:51] sorry I meant *not* absolutley hard [05:51] so I ssh'd in from my laptop [05:51] and trackerd was taking most of the CPU [05:51] sounds like you'd have a few processes in D state, too [05:51] I wondered if that was just coincidence [05:52] unlikely [05:52] I found it just killed speed on my system [05:52] the two hard drives I had last night were really not nice [05:52] and had to reindex every night [05:52] grr, hard freezes [05:53] the only hard freezes I get are generally related to the nvidia binary driver :) [05:53] I had to hit the reset button and had fscks when it came back up [05:53] hmm, really? [05:53] that's when I can't ssh in or ping it :) [05:53] I do have nvidia [05:53] I can ping, no ssh though [05:53] if it freezes, it does it with style [05:53] yea the nvidia drivers lock me up too on gutsy once a week or so [05:53] imbrandon: not quite that often for me [05:54] hmm, well this is 3 times in two nights [05:54] LaserJock: purge tracker & see if it helps :) [05:54] but mine are 100% hardlocks [05:54] imbrandon: that's more common with nvidia, when it can take down the kernel [05:54] my first 2 were hard as a rock [05:55] true [05:55] this last one the mouse worked, but I had to ssh in and restart gdm to do anything [05:55] LaserJock's problem sounds more like an I/O problem, like when I use more than 4GB RAM & everything starts to thrash about === TheMuso has purged tracker from all his gutsy installs. [05:56] TheMuso: so have I === RAOF wishes tracker didnt segfault on start. [05:56] ok, I think I'll get rid of nvidia and tracker [05:56] RAOF: if only I were so lucky! [05:56] heh [05:57] i thought we'd learned from beagle [05:57] why do we not just use beagle [05:57] imbrandon: cause beagle sucks? [05:57] imbrandon: Who knows? [05:58] jmg: but tracker is revolutionary & many times better [05:59] it has !! [05:59] I'm interested in stringi [05:59] there's quite a bit of work WRT chemistry for stringi [06:00] LaserJock: what does that actually mean? [06:00] ahh yea the kde favs come out ;) [06:01] RAOF: means indexing chemical information === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:05] ajmitch: hows aveau [sic] comming ? [06:05] nouveau? :) [06:06] yea heh [06:06] 2d mostly works... === TheMuso thinks that auto indexing of files is another way to say CPU time wastage. === ajmitch has far too many files to be reindexed nightly [06:06] everyone should just use slocate and updatedb ;) [06:06] well, if it's done smartly I think it's useful [06:07] imbrandon: that doesn't index contents [06:07] like in OS X I use QuickSilver/Spotlight a lot === jml_ [n=jml@ppp121-44-221-92.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:07] when I get so much stuff, it's nice to be able to quickly do a search [06:07] okies i'm off to sleep fellas, gnight all [06:07] cya imbrandon [06:07] googledesktop ftw ;) [06:08] but if it's gonna freeze my computer [06:08] i have used it for months now, no freezes i've noticed [06:08] and do stupid stuff then it's usefullness is pretty much 0 [06:08] loce it, even indexes my gmail [06:09] ;) [06:09] night imbrandon [06:09] maybe my computer is just too old [06:09] I was all happy when I bumped it up to 1GB of RAM [06:09] now it's like dang, I need 2GB at least [06:09] and a new proc [06:09] pent-d dual 3ghz with 4 gb ram, same computer for months now [06:10] new hdd's but same basic setup [06:10] anyhow i'm out , gnight [06:10] I'm on a AMD 1800+ and 1GB of RAM [06:10] I think one feels it the most on machines with 2.5/less than 7200rpm drives. [06:10] and it was killing me [06:10] oh yeah, it'll totally kill my laptop [06:11] that poor thing doesn't even handle pbuilder very well === Frogzoo [n=Frogzoo@202.155.165.25] has joined #ubuntu-motu === valles [n=valles@190.37.168.189] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:22] ajmitch: argg, how did you get rid of tracker? synaptic wants to take out nautilus too [06:22] can I just turn it off somewhere? === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:23] LaserJock: use apt-get [06:23] tracker is a Recommends [06:24] (of ubuntu-desktop) [06:24] I don't think it's mandatory for nautilus yet [06:24] oh dear, I may be wrong [06:25] ajmitch: Well I don't have it installed here, and I'm running latest updates. [06:26] libtrackerclient0 looks to be a dependency of nautilus [06:27] yep, here it is [06:27] yea you can still take out these though: libdeskbar-tracker tracker tracker-search-tool [06:27] yeah, but that won't stop trackerd I don't think [06:28] trackerd is part of the tracker package [06:28] hmm, you're right [06:29] ok, well I guess maybe that'll work [06:30] Ah I see its not there. Never mind. [06:32] hmm, I wonder if it's a problem that I have 2 different nvidia binary drivers installed [06:33] or maybe I don't, grr [06:33] restricted-manager shows 2 [06:35] see, this is what I get when I actually use my computer for something other than packaging [06:37] LaserJock: How did you manage to do that? [06:38] I have no idea [06:38] but Restriced Manager has two lines [06:38] one is just plain nvidia [06:38] the other has (latest driver) [06:39] when I diabled one it didn't disable the other [06:39] so I have no idea [06:40] Hm === RAOF checks his own restricted manager [06:40] Heh, only one there... === ScottK checks his and finds no restricted video driver at all... [06:42] grrr, why is compiz.real still around, I thought I killd that bugger [06:43] ScottK: good deal, next time around I'll try to get some better hardware [06:44] With laptops it's really tough to get hardware that has decent free video support. [06:44] my little CMPC will do compiz ok [06:45] I think it's got a Intel 915 [06:45] or is that 951 [06:46] Bah, Riddell is in Spain. [06:47] no, it's 915 [06:47] he is? that must be nice [06:47] the only real sucky part of this ClassmatePC is that they don't use intel wireless [06:47] Well, his away message says so. === asisak [n=conp@ubuntu/member/coNP] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Frogzoo [n=Frogzoo@202.155.165.25] has joined #ubuntu-motu === czessi_ [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-035-175.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:04] does anyone know how applications end up listed as available to install in Add/Remove programs? [07:07] By being available to install? [07:08] well it appears to scrub for .desktop files possibly to me [07:08] but i'm not sure how that database for it would have been built [07:09] because an app that was accepted a week or so ago still doesn't show up in that list === ScottK really doesn't know it just seemed like a good smartass answer. === asisak thought they were added manually [07:09] superm1, perhaps by app-install-data, app-install-data-commercial, app-install-data-edubuntu ? === _czessi_ [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-047-188.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:09] I'd really think that's the case === superm1 apt-get sources [07:10] Yeah, it has a lot of .desktop files [07:10] And a nice README file :) [07:11] well that will sure explain things, once the source finally grabs for me [07:11] thanks guys === ScottLij [n=scott@24-180-196-49.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:12] :) [07:13] ah this is quite useful. so i can actually go and hide apps that shouldnt show their .desktop files there [07:14] seems kind of odd that it would a core dev bzr branch though if it contains icons for stuff in universe and multiverse however [07:15] superm1: it's a Main package === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-41.auto.rp80.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:16] superm1: we could split out a -data-universe package I suppose [07:16] well i should have qualified my statement a little better, it would make sense to have a main source package that produces a main binary and a universe binary === superm1 is too slow :) [07:16] well [07:16] it needs all the data [07:16] so it can present Universe apps === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-1-87.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === porthose [n=charliej@24-119-101-247.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:17] there wouldn't be a reason to split the data out except to allow MOTUs to manage the data [07:17] LaserJock, do you know how mvo builds menu-data-full-gutsy.tar.gz then? [07:17] because it looks like his update script just grabs that from his people.ubuntu.com/~mvo directory [07:18] I think he has a script that grabs them out of the packages [07:18] okay, so it would more so be a matter of updating the package's icons appropriately, and asking him to rerun his script then === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:19] well, I think you have to add app-install info to the .desktop [07:19] superm1: It's rerun fairly regularly, AFAIK. [07:19] LaserJock: I didn't, and my two packages appear. [07:19] it appears that you need a X-AppInstall-Package= [07:19] hmm [07:19] if you want it to install something other than the one that the .desktop is included in [07:20] yeah, that may be [07:20] I've got to go through and do a bunch of those [07:20] although I get to put them in my own data package [07:20] so I do it manually [07:20] doesn't make it clear how to hide them from the Add/Remove applications installer though [07:21] just ask mvo [07:21] yea guess that's the best solution :) [07:21] or read the code [07:21] it's kinda fun [07:21] I can't find the code that generates the tar.gz. [07:21] probably in a bzr branch that mvo is managing if anything [07:22] since it ends up in his p.u.c dir [07:22] or a Canonical-special like MoM ;-) [07:22] Mhm. [07:27] pitti might know perhaps [07:28] finally, feisty is installed, now I need to get windows XP back [07:28] *cough* [07:28] it's only a work computer, nothing critical === porthose [n=charliej@24-119-101-247.cpe.cableone.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [07:31] I think it'd be fun to write a April 1st blog post about how I figured out how to run pbuilder from Vista [07:33] superm1: I'd be interested in knowing the result of your email to mvo [07:33] i'll bounce the response to the motu mailing list when he writes me back [07:33] cool [07:34] what e-mail would this be? [07:35] tonyyarusso: how the g-a-i data gets collected [07:35] LaserJock: you mean popularity-contest? [07:35] LaserJock, if you have any apps that need the updated data put in, i'd guess tonight is probably a good time to do that [07:36] because if its a manual procedure, mvo will probably run it after being reminded :) [07:36] superm1: no, I have my own data package for that [07:36] tonyyarusso: no, what apps show up in g-a-i [07:36] oh [07:37] tonyyarusso, the "Add/Remove" option that shows up in the GNOME menus [07:37] the data for that === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-032-083.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu is confused... [07:47] Wasn't glchess incorporated into gnome-games? [07:47] hmm, let me think [07:47] does gnome-games spit out a glchess .deb? [07:48] I don't believe so. [07:48] But we now have a new glchess package from Debian.. [07:48] grr [07:48] And it doesn't conflict properly. [07:49] I kow I had to do some work on gcompris because of it [07:49] but we dep on gnome-games [07:50] Well, I think I've done enough UUS to go to bed with a clear conscience. Good night all. === Fujitsu sighs at Debian. [07:50] LaserJock, was there any more update as to when we were going to do the PPA/Packaging 101? the thread was lost in a bunch of broken filters that i need to fix yet === superm1 shakes a fist at his t-bird [07:50] oh, no, other than cprov said that any time would be fine for him [07:51] Fujitsu: my guess is that somebody did a package for glchess not knowing that it's in gome-games [07:51] well when is ideal for you? [07:51] hmm [07:52] LaserJock: why would we need glchess? [07:52] asisak: hmm? [07:52] Sorry. I guess I understood the thread now. [07:53] superm1: how about like 15:00 or 16:00 UTC on thursday? [07:53] 16:00 UTC, hm that's looking at what 4am central? [07:53] oh wait woah i cant think [07:53] yea that works for me [07:54] ok, let me email launchpad-users proposing that time [07:54] and we'll go from there [07:54] sounds good. hopefully i fix my filters before that arrives [07:55] Oooh, yay, lots of tags! Tags tags tags! let's put every conceivable tag on our bugs! [07:55] Tags: cpu cpufrequtils frequency resume scaling suspend === jussi01 [n=jussi@oul088-gw3.netplaza.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === khermans [i=khermans@nat/cisco/x-dd2a4e6efaf717e1] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:01] Fujitsu: heah, tags are the new summary, you get one for each bug ;-) === Gasten [n=Gasten@h52n9c1o1095.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu gets annoyed at people setting Ubuntu tasks to Fix Committed if it's fixed upstream. === Nicke [n=niclasa@ua-83-227-140-135.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F73EED.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:15] good morning [08:16] hey dholbach === tonyyarusso tries to pretend it's not as late as it is [08:18] Hi dholbach. [08:18] tonyyarusso, it's morning :) [08:19] pygi: Technically, yes. 1:19 AM [08:19] hey tonyyarusso, hey Fujitsu [08:19] (here) === Lure_ [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:24] lc [08:24] ugh === Zic [n=Zic@ubuntu/member/zic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:26] booo [08:27] Liferea crashes too much for me to use it. [08:33] and Brief can't handle Craigslist's format - grrrr [08:37] hi dholbach [08:37] hey LaserJock [08:37] Fujitsu: do you find that the upstream vs Ubuntu tasks are not well understood? [08:37] mornin dholbach [08:41] hey superm1 [08:41] dholbach, you going to be out for all of UDS? === vil [n=lada@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pgquiles [n=pgquiles@62.43.226.52.static.user.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-1-87.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ant30 [n=aperezar@19.Red-80-59-20.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:44] superm1: I'll be at UDS for the entire duration === Le-Chuck_ITA [n=Le-Chuck@dhcp-131-114-3-71.di.unipi.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:45] Hi there === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-1-87.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:45] dholbach, cool. i'm still trying to determine how much of it i'll be able to make it out for. I'll have to be taking off from courses for the week and all. [08:46] it'd be awesome to have you there :) [08:47] I have a bug in xournal, which is present both in 0.3.3 and in 0.4.0.1, and a patch has been found. I want to package 0.4.0.1 for ubuntu, and include the patch (which is due to different pdftoppm behavior in new version in gutsy) but how should I include the patch, while waiting for upstream to apply that in CVS? [08:47] I mean how should I include the patch in the ubuntu package? [08:47] superm1, can't you do some arrangements with your college? If I go, I'll do that hopefully [08:48] pygi, well i'm undergrad so I dont need to let the school know directly, but rather my professors [08:48] superm1, well, same here [08:48] pygi, my worry is that i believe I have an exam and possibly a lab practical that week. so we'll see [08:49] superm1, I think I also have an exam on saturday (math), but perhaps something can be done [08:49] Le-Chuck_ITA, the patch applies cleanly to 0.3.3? [08:49] the fix is known, and the patch will apply cleanly to both [08:49] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xournal/+bug/137944 [08:49] Launchpad bug 137944 in xournal "[gutsy] [regression] pdf rendering not working" [Undecided,New] === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@c-76-17-194-130.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:50] Le-Chuck_ITA, ideally at this point it should be applied to 0.3.3, because getting 0.4.0.1 will require a UVFe [08:50] since we are past the upstream version freeze as of 10 days ago or so [08:50] also for universe? [08:51] superm1, well, hopefully see you there =) [08:51] yes that applies to all the sections (main, universe, multiverse, restricted) [08:51] that's ok, I will put it on my PPA (as soon as I have one) and then go for gutsy+1 [08:51] indeed pygi likewise to you :) [08:51] well, and how does one include a patch specific to gutsy in a source package? [08:51] Le-Chuck_ITA, does xournal already have support for gdk-pixbuf? [08:51] or does that add a new dependency? [08:51] ? [08:52] I think it has [08:52] oh nvm, i was reading your bug report wrong [08:52] yes it must [08:52] superm1, you're where? Italy? [08:52] pygi, i'm in the US, IA atm [08:52] superm1, ah, oki :P [08:52] then you are closer then me :D [08:52] pygi: are you italian? [08:52] but i've been spotted in IL, MN, and NC for extended periods of time the past year or two [08:53] Le-Chuck_ITA, no, Croatia :P [08:53] Le-Chuck_ITA, have you made a debdiff before ever? [08:53] ah ok [08:53] yes [08:53] or used dpatch at all? [08:53] superm1, well, enjoy =) [08:53] Le-Chuck_ITA, okay well what you will want to do is create a dpatch that replaces your logic in that file [08:53] yes I am still a newbie with debian tools but I think I can do that [08:54] Le-Chuck_ITA, and then do a test build locally with your changes [08:54] and this should be inserted in "debian/" [08:54] ? [08:54] yes, [08:54] when using dpatch you'll use it like this [08:54] dpatch-edit-patch 01_patchname.dpatch [08:54] and that will bring you into a dpatch editing mode to generate the patch [08:54] as soon as you type exit, it will create the patch for you in debian/patches/01_patchname.dpatch [08:55] ok, but, ehm [08:55] you'll need to create a file called debian/patches/00list that contains this patch name [08:55] so that its applied [08:55] and then add a build dependency of dpatch [08:55] ok [08:55] and make sure that it is applied in debian/rules as well [08:55] depending on whether debhelper or cdbs is used depends on how that is done [08:56] hmm I think I will first fix the problem and then get back here :) [08:56] when you've got all that together, create the debdiff between the two revisions (the one in the archive right now and the one you made) and attach it to the bug [08:57] if your quick and i'm still awake i'll look over your debdiff tonight, otherwise, subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors, and a MOTU will grab it from the queue [08:57] superm1: I don't know if I can do that today, I am very busy till the 13, but thanks for the offer [08:58] Le-Chuck_ITA, no prob. well feel free to poke me if i'm around and you need some help, or just ask in the room. most of us are pretty friendly [08:58] :) [08:58] thanks a lot :) [09:00] ajmitch, ping === czessi_ [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-024-233.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:01] viviersf: yes? [09:01] ajmitch, which version of authtool is currently of gutsy ? Who's branch ? [09:02] mine, why? [09:02] talk to the powers that be if you need it updated === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-1-87.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:03] ajmitch, its just that version does not work at all. It doesnt even start so its kinda pointless :( [09:04] superm1: how does one go about creating a diff for such patches? [09:04] ajmitch, and that powers be who ? [09:04] i used diff -Naur and I'm not sure it applied correctly =( [09:05]