[01:15] <TheMuso> Ubulette: Thanks.
[01:15] <Ubulette> I'll merge in xul.trunk before we do a new ppa update
[01:15] <Ubulette> and in gp a8 when it's released
[01:16] <Ubulette> well... no ppa for ppc
[01:16] <Ubulette> hmm
[01:20] <TheMuso> You know, I've been thinking about that. They could set up a mol instance. :) (mol = mac on linux, which can run linux)
[01:21] <Ubulette> who ?
[01:21] <Ubulette> ppa guys ?
[01:21] <TheMuso> For powerpc, there is a program like vmware/kvm for x87, that allows you to run OS X/Linux inside Linux.
[01:21] <TheMuso> Yes, the ppa guys.,
[01:21] <TheMuso> THey use xen for amd64/i386, and mol could provide a similar closed environment for building...
[01:22] <Ubulette> yep. would be nice
[01:22] <TheMuso> Yeah.
[01:23] <TheMuso> But theres also the chance that they only want supported arches for PPAs.
[01:47] <Ubulette> TheMuso, i pushed to gp too. rev 63. At least we're sure it will not be forgotten ;)
[01:49] <TheMuso> Ok.
[02:51] <TheMuso> Ubulette: All seems fine here. Just finished building a patched alpha7 on ppc, and am using it successfully.
[02:51] <Ubulette> good
[04:30] <wfarr> anyone know why the I can't install the packages from the mozillateam PPA? it says there's no installation candidate available =/
[04:31] <wfarr> why I can't**
[04:39] <tonyyarusso> wfarr: which one?
[04:39] <wfarr> never mind - I just saw that (for whatever reason), the PPA repository doesn't build firefox-trunk binaries
[04:40] <wfarr> so I'll just grab the dsc and build my own package I suppose
[10:41] <TheMuso> 88887777999~7999999~7999/c
[10:41] <TheMuso> ugh
[10:44] <asac> TheMuso: is that a pass?
[10:44] <asac> :)
[10:44] <TheMuso> asac: Its called my screen reader playing funky behavior with me. :)
[10:45] <TheMuso> asac: But I told Ubulette that my patch worked locally. I was able to run a patched alpha7 ubuntu deb.
[11:04] <asac> ok fine ... i guess he already added that to trunk, right?
[11:20] <TheMuso> I think so.
[11:54] <Ubulette> hi
[11:54] <Bernardo> hi
[11:54] <Ubulette> asac, i've applied the ppc patch to xul.dev and gp
[11:55] <Ubulette> asac, i'm running dev with the additional extensions, seems fine but no different from before
[11:56] <Ubulette> asac, and I get some errors: http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/Error-Console.png
[12:40] <asac> Ubulette: did those pop up because of the new extensions?
[05:11] <asac> hjmf: hey ... do you have a few examples at hand users could properly retrace, while we/apport couldn't do that?
[07:53] <Ubulette> hi back
[07:54] <Ubulette> asac, i expected at least to see venkman in ff3, nothing
[07:55] <asac> Ubulette: in? why in? its an extension i guess.
[07:55] <Ubulette> i think it could either be bundled in, or out as an addon
[07:56] <Ubulette> well, it's not clear
[08:52] <Ubulette> asac, it's seems venkman is properly installed in xul now. what's missing is the ui link in ff3 calling the proper .js
[09:35] <asac> ui link?
[09:35] <asac> hmm
[09:36] <asac> maybe the extension is not properly registered in firefox at all when you have a xul extension?
[09:51] <Ubulette> asac, no link, i just read the code and checked my newly installed xul
[10:04] <asac> Ubulette: is the venkman extension in /usr/lib/xulrunner/extensions ?
[10:06] <Ubulette> asac, /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9a8pre/extensions/{f13b157f-b174-47e7-a34d-4815ddfdfeb8}/chrome/venkman.jar
[10:06] <asac> ok
[10:06] <asac> is firefox listed as a compatible app in install.rdf?
[10:07] <asac>  /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9a8pre/extensions/{f13b157f-b174-47e7-a34d-4815ddfdfeb8}/install.rdf
[10:08] <Ubulette> yep
[10:08] <Ubulette>                 <!-- target: Mozilla Firefox, version 0.9 to 3.0 -->
[10:08] <Ubulette>                 <!-- target: Mozilla Thunderbird, version 0.9 to 3.0 -->
[10:08] <Ubulette>                 <!-- target: Flock, version 1.0 -->
[10:08] <Ubulette>                 <!-- target: Mozilla Sunbird version 0.3 -->
[10:08] <Ubulette>                 <!-- target: SeaMonkey version 2.0 -->
[10:08] <Ubulette>                 <!-- target: Gecko Toolkit version 1.9 -->
 hmmm is 3.0 > 3.0a8pre ?
[10:10] <asac> ok then try to link the extension to the paradiso/extensions dir
[10:10] <asac> Ubulette: no idea how they match version
[10:10] <asac> but give it a try
[10:10] <asac> could be true ;)
[10:13] <shirish> hey guys anybody up?
[10:13] <Ubulette> yop
[10:13] <shirish> hi Ubulette :)
[10:14] <shirish> Ubulette: how can one know that one script is python or not? Is there anyway to find out?
[10:14] <shirish> Ubulette: apart from the name something.py, is there any other way to know the difference?
[10:15] <Ubulette> file
[10:15] <shirish> Ubulette: what do you mean by file?
[10:16] <Ubulette> forget it. doesn't work if the py has been "unshebanged"
[10:17] <Ubulette> well, try "file foo.py"
[10:17] <shirish> Ubulette: what's "unshebanged"
[10:17] <Ubulette> shebang stripped off
[10:18] <Ubulette> shirish, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shebang_(Unix)
[10:20] <asac> Ubulette: did it help?`
[10:20] <Ubulette> ?
[10:20] <asac> extensions ;)
[10:20] <Ubulette> linking ? no
[10:21] <Ubulette> it should be registered
[10:21] <asac> he?
[10:21] <asac> and fixing maxVersion?
[10:26] <Ubulette> asac, i meant http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/Chrome-Registration-Failed.png
[10:30] <shirish> Ubulette: what's the url for gstreamer that you were saying yestererday, the repository you have
[10:30] <Ubulette> there's a mini repo called gstreamer0.10
[10:31] <shirish> ok got it
[10:40] <asac> looks a bit like ffox cannot register because it doesn't have write permissions?
[10:41] <asac> you see anything in strace?
[10:44] <Ubulette> it fails to open .../chrome/icons/default/*.xpm
[10:46] <asac> hmmm looks for icons in xulrunner chrome?
[10:46] <asac> or paradiso chrome
[10:46] <asac> ?
[10:46] <asac> i doubt that this is the problem
[10:47] <asac> maybe it just probes for icons in xul dir first
[10:47] <Ubulette> 16404 open("/usr/lib/firefox-trunk/extensions/{f13b157f-b174-47e7-a34d-4815ddfdfeb8}/chrome.manifest", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_EXCL|O_TRUNC|O_LARGEFILE, 0644) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
[10:47] <asac> looks like a bug
[10:47] <asac> it should do the same in the profile dir ... not the APPDIR
[10:48] <asac> but maybe its just a probe again?
[10:48] <Ubulette> that when the popup 1st appear
[10:48] <Ubulette> that's
[10:49] <asac> Ubulette: is that with or without link?
[10:49] <Ubulette> with
[10:49] <asac> without link ... what happens?
[10:49] <asac> no pop-up at all?
[10:50] <Ubulette> without, nothing
[10:50] <Ubulette> 16404 open("/usr/lib/firefox-trunk/update.test", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_EXCL|O_TRUNC|O_LARGEFILE, 0644) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
[10:50] <Ubulette> 16404 open("/usr/lib/firefox-trunk/extensions/{f13b157f-b174-47e7-a34d-4815ddfdfeb8}/chrome.manifest", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_EXCL|O_TRUNC|O_LARGEFILE, 0644) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
[10:50] <Ubulette> 16404 open("/usr/lib/firefox-trunk/extensions/{f13b157f-b174-47e7-a34d-4815ddfdfeb8}/chrome.manifest", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_EXCL|O_TRUNC|O_LARGEFILE, 0644) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
[10:51] <Ubulette> that's grep EACCES
[10:51] <asac> hmmm ... i think you tested but what happens without link and fixed maxVersion?
[10:51] <asac> (just to be sure before moving ahead ;))
[10:52] <Ubulette> hmm, is our ff trunk recognized as id ec8030f7-c20a-464f-9b0e-13a3a9e97384 ?
[10:52] <asac> look into application.ini
[10:53] <asac> i think thats the place were its defined
[10:53] <Ubulette> yep, it is
[10:54] <asac> well i really think its a bug then
[10:54] <Ubulette> I bumped max to 4.0
[10:54] <Ubulette> 16556 open("/usr/lib/firefox-trunk/update.test", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_EXCL|O_TRUNC|O_LARGEFILE, 0644) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
[10:54] <Ubulette> 16556 open("/usr/lib/firefox-trunk/extensions/{f13b157f-b174-47e7-a34d-4815ddfdfeb8}/chrome.manifest", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_EXCL|O_TRUNC|O_LARGEFILE, 0644) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
[10:54] <Ubulette> 16556 open("/usr/lib/firefox-trunk/extensions/{f13b157f-b174-47e7-a34d-4815ddfdfeb8}/chrome.manifest", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_EXCL|O_TRUNC|O_LARGEFILE, 0644) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
[10:54] <Ubulette> 16556 open("/usr/lib/firefox-trunk/update.test", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_EXCL|O_TRUNC|O_LARGEFILE, 0644) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
[10:54] <Ubulette> 16556 mkdir("/usr/lib/firefox-trunk/extensions/{f13b157f-b174-47e7-a34d-4815ddfdfeb8}-trash", 0755) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
[10:54] <asac> maybe try to move the extension to the trunk dir (instaed of linking)
[10:54] <Ubulette> 16556 open("/usr/lib/firefox-trunk/update.test", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_EXCL|O_TRUNC|O_LARGEFILE, 0644) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
[10:55] <Ubulette> well, putting it in xul is supposed to allow sharing between all xul apps
[10:56] <Ubulette> seems we need to chromereg it
[10:59] <asac> oh no
[10:59] <asac> please no chrome reg
[10:59] <asac> i think its a bug
[10:59] <asac> at least i hope it is
[11:12] <Ubulette> mozilla bug 392475
[11:12] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 392475 in JavaScript Debugger "Build Venkman as an extension for XUL (toolkit) based apps" [Normal,Reopened]  http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=392475
[11:13] <Ubulette> mozilla bug 371671
[11:13] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 371671 in JavaScript Debugger "Use manifests in Venkman when building with Suiterunner" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]  http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=371671
[11:14] <Ubulette> lol, patch landed today
[11:15] <Ubulette> hmm, did my bot build before of after the commit... good question
[11:21] <Ubulette> hmm, fix not committed yet
[11:51] <asac> so it was not landed (even though comment claims it is?)
[11:51] <Ubulette> just committed as Bug 371671: prebuild chrome.manifest on compile; r=gijs
[11:51] <asac> k
[11:52] <Ubulette> was supposed to be committed hours ago
[11:54] <Ubulette> basically, this all seems to be a wip
[11:54] <Ubulette> http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/weirdal/archives/018483.html
[11:54] <Ubulette> http://www.gijsk.com/blog/2007/09/venkman-rescue-meeting/
[11:55] <Ubulette> bot rebuilding....
[12:00] <Ubulette> asac, no news of gnomefreak ?
[12:00] <asac> no :(
[12:10] <Ubulette> asac, btw, in xul, we only have venkman and inspector installed, not the other ones
[12:12] <asac> Ubulette: you mean make install doesn't install the other extensions in the extensions/ folder?
[12:14] <Ubulette> yes. only those two in mozilla/dist/xulrunner/extensions
[12:26] <Ubulette> asac, those other ones didnt pass the xpi-stage
[12:34] <mertiki> asac : are-you there?
[01:07] <Ubulette> asac, yeaaaaahhh, i've got venkman working :)