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halcyonCorsairi have an HP quad port server adapter that i'm using the intel e1000 driver for, but i want to try the HP driver, which only comes for RHEL3, 4, 5, or SLES9, or 10, would I be able to use any of those?03:33
kgoetzdoubtfull03:34
kgoetzcan you get source and build it yourself?03:34
halcyonCorsairi don't know....i don't think so, but i'm investigating that03:34
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fujin_anyone here using Puppet?04:59
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nealmcbfujin_: Not me.  But a more specific question might elicit a response.  Seriously good guide to asking questions on IRC: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html05:50
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ivoksgrrr01:57
ivoks /etc/network/interfaces is bad concept :/01:57
kgoetz:(01:58
ivoksif you have 3-4 interfaces set up there, and if you missconfigure one, none of them will start01:58
sorenivoks: Yeah.. Who needs network configuratino?01:58
kgoetzivoks: automatically01:58
sorenivoks: You'd have to *really* misconfigure it to make that happen, surely?01:59
kgoetzthey still start if yyou ifup them dont they?01:59
ivokssoren something like iface static lo:100 (instead of iface inet static lo:100)01:59
ivoksthat will crash whole network01:59
ivoksand servers are 2000-3000km away :/02:00
sorenYeah. Maybe we could provide a wrapper around it like with sudoers or passwd to avoid that sort of thing.02:00
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kgoetzsoren: what sort of wrapper?02:00
ivokswe should disect it to files02:01
kgoetzthat knows the syntax of every config files in the archive/?02:01
sorenkgoetz: You familiar with visudo ?02:01
ivoksinclude files from conf.d02:01
kgoetzsoren: yes02:01
sorenkgoetz: Nono, just interfaces.02:01
kgoetzhm.02:02
sorenkgoetz: Just a wrapper script you call that opens an editor and checks that you haven't b0rken your /e/n/interfaces file.02:02
kgoetzmmm.02:03
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ivokswe shall create blueprint for that02:08
ivokslol, shall... should02:08
sorenAh...02:09
sorenI'm not sure it's possible, actually.02:09
ivoksi think that separate files for interfaces would be easier02:10
sorenOh, please no.02:11
ivoks:)02:11
kgoetzhow redhat02:11
ivoksi'm so frustrated right now, since i can't get to those servers...02:11
ivokskgoetz: all distributions have single file for single interface02:11
ivoksiirc02:12
sorenhttp://bugs.debian.org/15988402:12
kgoetzivoks: not sure i follow02:13
ivoksyou have one file with IP, interface etc...02:13
ivoksthen you have another file with another IP, interface, etc..02:13
sorenivoks: I don't think the syntax check would be feasible. The way the parser figures out that a new interfaces is being described is by recognising the iface lines. If it doesn't match a set list of patterns, it's considered an option to the previous interface.02:14
ivoksthen, if there is an error in second file, that error doesn't effect first file02:14
ivokswhy not?02:14
ivoksfor every file include file02:15
ivoksifconfig $IFACE up $ADDRR netmask $NETMASK02:15
ivoksetc..02:15
kgoetzwouldnt it be better to make ifupdown support not bailing on errors?02:17
kgoetzor reverting to last good config?02:17
sorenThat's not the issue.02:17
sorenThe issue is that it's impossible to tell if it's been misconfigured or it's something else that's not working properly.02:17
sorenThe the syntax for interfaces is very forgiving, so it's practically impossible to detect errors in it (since it might just be someone doing something "interesting").02:18
kgoetzagree02:19
ivoksi would say that much bigger problem is that mistake on one interface destroys all other02:22
sorenivoks: That shouldn't be the case.02:23
ivoksbut it is02:23
ivoksmake a mistake in interfaces and try02:24
kgoetzivoks: sure it is? or have you stufffed up worse then you think02:24
ivoksi'm sure02:26
ivoksthat already happend to me once02:26
kgoetzi'd test it, but i dont want to loose my connectivity ;)02:26
ivoksjust add false lines02:31
ivoksand try ifdown lo02:31
ivoksit won't work, even if you don't do mistake with lo02:32
ivoks$ sudo ifdown lo02:33
ivoks/etc/network/interfaces:23: too few parameters for iface line02:33
ivoksit works if you add:02:34
ivokssdgfsagr rg rg tedfrgb02:34
ivoksbut it doesn't if you add:02:34
ivoksiface ath6 static02:34
ivoksfunny, isn't it? :)02:35
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sorenivoks: Ah... *That* we could check.02:55
sorenivoks: But in the real world, a more sensible solution would probably be to make vi hilight it in bright red.02:56
ivoks_eh, wasn't here the whole time :D02:56
ivoks_we should check that02:57
ivoks_and bring interfaces which aren't cripeld02:57
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sorenomg... Have you ever actually looked at the ifupdown code?03:03
sorenIf you haven't.. don't!03:03
kgoetzlol.03:03
kgoetzi wont03:03
sorenI wish I hadn't.03:04
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ivoks_:)03:08
ivoks_i will :)03:08
ivoks_i don't want this to happen again :/03:08
ivoks_so lame :(03:08
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m11hello all04:19
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DustWolfwhere in04:27
DustWolfubuntu settings04:27
DustWolfe.g. what file04:27
DustWolfdo I find the setting that makes04:27
DustWolfubuntu not start mysql with the --skip-networking flag?04:27
sorenDustWolf: Which version of Ubuntu?04:28
DustWolf6.06 LTS I think04:28
sorenYou think? :)04:29
sorenCould you find out?04:29
soren"lsb_release -cs" will tell you04:29
DustWolfI'm quite sure04:29
DustWolfit says edgy04:29
DustWolfso.. ? :P04:30
DustWolf:)04:30
soren...so it's probably Edgy (i.e. 6.10).04:30
mralphabetedgy is not 6.06 LTS ;)04:30
DustWolfsorry ;P04:30
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sorenI'll just fire up my edgy vm. Hang on.04:31
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sorenDustWolf: And you claim it's started with --skip-networking?04:34
sorenDustWolf: As in it has "--skip-networking" on the command line?04:34
mralphabetI think he _wants_ the --skip-networking flag, IE to find the place to put it in04:35
mralphabetI could be wrong04:35
DustWolfyeah04:35
DustWolfwell04:35
DustWolfI want to remove it04:35
mralphabetahh04:35
DustWolfit got in durring a software upgrade I guess04:35
DustWolfmysql     6329  0.0  1.7 127904 18000 pts/0    Sl   16:17   0:00 /usr/sbin/mysqld --basedir=/usr --datadir=/var/lib/mysql --user=mysql --pid-file=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid --skip-networking --skip-locking --port=3306 --socket=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock04:35
DustWolfthis is why04:35
DustWolfI assume it's there ;P04:36
DustWolfthat's output from ps aux04:36
mralphabetDustWolf: do you need mysql networking?04:37
DustWolfyes04:37
DustWolfI can configure it securely.. trust me :P04:37
DustWolfbut my php aren't very happy without being able to connect04:37
mralphabetphp on another machine?04:38
DustWolf(and I just want to fix this... because it's downtime until I do)04:38
DustWolfphp on the same machine04:38
mralphabetumm, okay04:38
DustWolfand the mysql backuping apps on other machines :P04:38
mralphabetahh04:39
sorenDustWolf: What does 'dpkg -l mysql-server-5.0' say?04:39
DustWolfDesired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold04:39
DustWolf| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed04:39
DustWolf|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)04:39
DustWolf||/ Name                                   Version                                Description04:39
DustWolf+++-======================================-======================================-============================================================================================04:39
DustWolfii  mysql-server-5.0                       5.0.24a-9ubuntu2                       mysql database server binaries04:39
sorenDoes 'grep -l -- --skip-networking /etc/init.d/mysql /etc/default/mysql* /usr/bin/mysqld_safe' give any result?04:41
DustWolf# grep -l -- --skip-networking /etc/init.d/mysql /etc/default/mysql* /usr/bin/mysqld_safe04:41
DustWolfgrep: /etc/default/mysql*: No such file or directory04:41
DustWolferm04:41
sorenApart from that?04:41
DustWolf/usr/bin/mysqld_safe04:41
DustWolfthis is missing ;P04:41
DustWolfirc stripped it04:41
sorenMissing? The file is not there?04:42
DustWolfno04:42
DustWolfit's there04:42
DustWolfjust got removed when I pasted ;P04:42
DustWolfor rather.. parsed04:42
DustWolfe.g. I got this:04:42
DustWolf# grep -l -- --skip-networking /etc/init.d/mysql /etc/default/mysql* /usr/bin/mysqld_safe04:42
DustWolfgrep: /etc/default/mysql*: No such file or directory04:42
DustWolf/usr/bin/mysqld_safe04:42
sorenIn that case, you've edited that file. It's not a conffile and the stock one does not contain '--skip-networking'04:43
DustWolfok04:44
DustWolfI'll fix it then04:44
DustWolfand it might have been my co-admin playing smart again04:44
sorenYou can find the original one at http://warma.dk/mysqld_safe04:45
DustWolfnah I'll just let it be04:46
sorenAlright. I'll remove it from there again, then.04:48
DustWolf:)04:49
DustWolfthanks for the help :)04:49
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roadkillman why dose digg.com make my system jump to max cpu usage09:08
roadkillconstant,09:09
mralphabetall the ajax?09:11
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roadkilli dunno it work fine this morning i havnt installed anything since09:19
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roadkill_anyone here know electronics stuff, i have a part i've got a question about09:38
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mathiazlamont: about bug 135393, what is the security view of it ?10:12
ubotuLaunchpad bug 135393 in bind9 "init.d-script uses control channel instead of signals" [Wishlist,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13539310:12
mathiazlamont: is the control interface opened to anyone by default ?10:13
lamontmathiaz: root and/or the user bind, depending10:13
mathiazlamont: the reporter said that most of the user disable rndc by default.10:14
lamontyeah, well.  if you choose to modify your config away from doing it the right way, then you can modify init.d too.10:14
mathiazlamont: I was wondering if the control channel would only listen to localhost10:15
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lamontand I doubt that 'most' is anywhere near accurate10:15
mathiazlamont: agreed.10:15
lamontmathiaz: well...10:17
lamontanyone on localhost can talk to the control port.  and if you have read access to /etc/bind/rndc.key (or can otherwise get the key), then you can tell it to do stuff10:18
lamontdefault is to listen on lo only10:18
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mathiazlamont: ok I see.. Thanks.10:19
lamont(and yes, I had to go looking...)10:20
lamontbug 82178: I 'm inclined to just not deliver *idn*10:21
ubotuLaunchpad bug 82178 in bind9 "idnconv manual page exists, but no binary" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8217810:21
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lamontmanpages that is, we already don't deliver the binary10:21
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