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[01:18] <hwMoD> Hello friends - I'm trying to convert my brother in law's Acer TravelMate 220 to xubuntu - and after loading the live cd there's nothing on the screen, both in normal mode and in safe graphics mode
[01:18] <hwMoD> any ideas?
[01:21] <JoseArcadio> no one's been responding to questions
[01:21] <hwMoD> :(
[01:21] <JoseArcadio> i'd just go to #ubuntu and ask
[01:21] <hwMoD> one down for xubuntu I guess
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[01:21] <JoseArcadio> or even #kubuntu
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[01:36] <sjefen6> If someone desides to look at it... an image of it is at http://www.flickr.com/photos/sjefen6/1352886250/ . feel free to /msg me if you have a solution. good night :D
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[01:52] <nikolam> sjefen6: If you are testing Xubuntu Gutsy tribe5, go to channel #ubuntu+1 and also file a bug. Try using vesa server or some other for your card or just go to the console fith Ctrl+Alt+F2 log in to console,, kill gdm with ps -A | grep gdm , kill process_name o directly to xfce with "startx". Then Update
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[04:54] <cherrybomb> nube here
[04:54] <cherrybomb> how do you know what version of xubuntu I am running
[04:54] <cherrybomb> I go to the home page it says 7.04
[04:56] <cherrybomb> Does that make it what code name
[04:57] <cherrybomb> Gutsy Tribe or what
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[04:57] <cherrybomb> Does anyone know
[04:57] <Pumpernickel> 7.04 is Feisty.
[04:57] <cherrybomb> ok thanks
[05:00] <cherrybomb> do you know where I could find the code names for all o?f the versions past and present
[05:02] <Pumpernickel> Warty Warthog; Hoary Hedgehog; Breezy Badger; Dapper Drake; Edgy Eft; Feisty Fawn; Gutsy Gibbon (unstable); Hardy Heron (only a name - no development yet).
[05:03] <Pumpernickel> That's in chronological order, btw.
[05:11] <cherrybomb> Are these chacters from some cartoon show
[05:29] <tonyyarusso> nope
[05:29] <tonyyarusso> just Mark's little mind at work
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[05:31] <googlegoogle> !seen ellioTB
[05:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen elliotb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
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[05:35] <rici> !codenames
[05:35] <ubotu> Ubuntu has awesome release codenames. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames for more
[05:40] <Jester45> so.... there is going to be 2 H's
[05:40] <Jester45> i figured they would skip to I but ii guess he couldnt think of a good name
[05:42] <rici> itchy iguana
[05:43] <Jester45> Itchy (to take a bite of debian's server base) Iguana
[05:43] <rici> Jester45: snap
[05:43] <Jester45> make it a LTS pointed to servers more than desktops
[05:44] <Jester45> i know a lot of poeple use ubuntu for desktop because of the nice repo but debian for is stableness for servers
[05:45] <Jester45> but i dont think they would like that idea
[05:46] <Jester45> i my self like cli some times better than a gui
[05:46] <Jester45> mv+cp+dd > thunar
[05:46] <Jester45> *+mount
[05:47] <Jester45> mpd+mpc > anything else for music
[05:48] <Jester45> mplayer with ASCII out put :0 good for video over ssh :)
[05:49] <Kr4t05|Lap> I still wish I could mount NFS shares from my desktop. :<
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[05:53] <Jester45> !es
[05:53] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
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[06:12] <cellofellow> Kr4t05|Lap: use ntfs-3g.
[06:12] <cellofellow> Kr4t05|Lap: I think you need to set it up in fstab for that, but that's a ten-minute job.
[06:16] <Kr4t05|Lap> cellofellow, I said NFS, not NTFS. :/
[06:17] <cellofellow> oh, NFS.
[06:17] <cellofellow> Yeah, it would be nice to have those (optionally) appear on the desktop.
[06:17] <cellofellow> (Sometimes I have too many things showing on my desktop I don't want there.)
[06:17] <Kr4t05|Lap> Um... I think you misunderstood me.
[06:17] <Kr4t05|Lap> I'm talking about my desktop computer.
[06:17] <cellofellow> oh, or a LinNeighborhood-style tool.
[06:18] <cellofellow> um, ok I do missunderstand. What are you talking about?
[06:18] <Kr4t05|Lap> Two PCs.
[06:18] <Kr4t05|Lap> One desktop, one laptop.
[06:18] <Kr4t05|Lap> I have nfs-kernel-server installed on the desktop (Running Kubuntu Fiesty) and two shares set up.
[06:19] <Kr4t05|Lap> When I try to mount these shares in my laptop (running Xubuntu Fiesty) it won't work.
[06:19] <Kr4t05|Lap> Nor can I SSH into the desktop from the laptop.
[06:19] <Kr4t05|Lap> The connection times out.
[06:19] <cellofellow> You have a firewall set up?
[06:19] <Kr4t05|Lap> Not to my knowledge.
[06:20] <cellofellow> `iptables -L`
[06:20] <Kr4t05|Lap> I used Firestarter a couple times, but I don't have it on.
[06:20] <Kr4t05|Lap> One moment.
[06:21] <Kr4t05|Lap> Hrm, how can I change that?
[06:22] <cellofellow> did it show something?
[06:22] <Kr4t05|Lap> I originally heard that it was a bug in the Linksys router I had, but I couldn't find a way to fix it.
[06:22] <cellofellow> what about aptitude search firestarter?
[06:22] <Kr4t05|Lap> One second, let me get on IRC with the desktop.
[06:23] <cellofellow> ok
[06:23] <Kr4t05|Lap> cellofellow, I have firestarter installed on the desktop, yeah.
[06:23] <cellofellow> is it behind another firewall? A router or proxy?
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[06:25] <Kr4t05> cellofellow: Okay.
[06:25] <cellofellow> If you are already using a firewall, on another computer, then purge (sudo aptitude purge firestarter) the firewall.
[06:25] <cellofellow> firestarter is really only needed if you are sitting directly on the internet.
[06:26] <Kr4t05> cellofellow: Nope, only computer running a firewall.
[06:26] <Kr4t05> But... Well, I don't think I really need it.
[06:26] <cellofellow> router is included in "computer" sorry, wasn't clear.
[06:26] <Kr4t05> I have a router and a DSL modem sitting between this machine and the net.
[06:26] <cellofellow> removing it won't work, you have to purge.
[06:26] <cellofellow> ok, blast firestarter then.
[06:27] <cellofellow> oh, and just to make sure the iptables stuff gets cleaned, run `sudo iptables -F`.
[06:28] <cellofellow> after you purge.
[06:29] <cellofellow> getting it?
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[06:35] <Kr4t05> Oh drat...
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[06:56] <Kr4t05|Lap> Okay, how can I start up graphical apps from a ssh session?
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[07:00] <wolfwalker>  Request opinions about xubuntu. Pros and cons of Xubuntu versus Ubuntu.
[07:01] <wolfwalker>  I have an old desktop. I gather Xubuntu runs lighter on ram than Ubuntu. What's the downside?
[07:10] <Pumpernickel> Kr4t05|Lap: ssh -X
[07:10] <Pumpernickel> wolfwalker: A bunch of little conveniences are missing.
[07:11] <Pumpernickel> Integrated SMB in the file browser and simple menu editing come to mind.
[07:11] <Pumpernickel> The default application set is, of course, different, but mostly comparable re: features.
[07:14] <wolfwalker>  Okay, thanks
[07:14] <wolfwalker>  Downloading now
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[11:03] <nikolam> Hello
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[11:17] <v1k1ng> hello
[11:21] <nikolam> hi
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[12:23] <wers> is it just my desktop or does xfapplet really is a resource hog?
[12:23] <wers> I mean, is xapplet really is a resource hog?
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[01:05] <srr> Anyone got problem with xfburn and iso's?
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[02:00] <SoulChild> hey all ,... i can't use the vga boot parameter in grub ,... there are only modes avaialbe like 80x45 ,... any ideas ???
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[02:07] <SoulChild__> HELP.The highest available framebuffer resouloution at boot is 80x45, if i set it to 1024x768 ,... i have a blank screen while booting ,.. can somebody help me please?
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[02:12] <Eshat> Hey i have no frambuffer device like "/dev/fb0" any ideas ???
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[02:14] <Eshat> How do i update my /dev/ folder ?
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[02:35] <SoulChild> Hey all ,... i want a higher resoloution during boot ,.... how do i do this ,... is there another way than the vga parameter ???
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[02:38] <rm130> hey, what is that codec pack name that has ike vp3.1 vp6.1 vp6.2 and h264 codecs in it?
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[03:01] <SoulChild> this is strange ,... my video card does not work with the vesa driver anymore ,.. could this be the reason why i can#t change my resouloution with the vga boot parameter in grub ???
[03:09] <maxamillion> SoulChild: no, the vga boot parameter has to do with the kernel frame buffer (irrc) and shouldn't depend on vesa working
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[05:13] <tripte1> I kinda went "rm -r /var/cache/*" what to do?
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[05:15] <Eldred> Excuse me, how do I execute a program in Xubuntu Terminal?
[05:16] <Ramla> launch Terminal and write the command to execute desired program in there
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[05:43] <Snoopotic> hi... what was the command to load all depencies/dev files to build a programm I silently remember sthing like "apt-get build-dep <toolname>" but it wont work it must be similar :D
[05:43] <Snoopotic> ups was just a typo :D
[05:44] <Snoopotic> its build- dep :D
[05:45] <tuna-fish> I'm trying to set up vnc server for xubuntu. So far, the x sever starts but I get no gdm or other kind of login server. How can I make it work?
[05:46] <zoredache_> tuna-fish: what vnc server are you using?
[05:46] <tuna-fish> I used this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122402 so vnc4server
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[05:47] <zoredache> ah
[05:47] <tuna-fish> there seems to be no way to set up xdmcp
[05:47] <zoredache> I generally prefer 'x11vnc'
[05:47] <tuna-fish> do you have a quide for that?
[05:47] <zoredache> it lets me see the console of the computer
[05:47] <zoredache> I haven't looked for one tuna-fish...
[05:48] <zoredache> it shouldn't be too hard though
[05:48] <tuna-fish> ok...
[05:48] <tuna-fish> I'll look
[05:48] <zoredache> just install the package
[05:48] <zoredache> when I want to connect via vnc. I just ssh into my box and run the command 'x11vnc  -display :0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -loop'
[05:49] <zoredache> here is a page that google returned
[05:49] <zoredache> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/x11vnc
[05:49] <tuna-fish> I need to use this on a windows box where I'm restricted to one preinstall proprietary vnc client
[05:50] <tuna-fish> I hope this works with that...
[05:50] <zoredache> I have connected to this server from the realvnc, and tightvnc
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[06:30] <MatBoy> is it true that the HP tools are not diplayed oin the menu by default ?
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[06:58] <gnuskool> allo allo
[06:59] <gnuskool> anyone awake
[06:59] <gnuskool> ??
[06:59] <DuClare> who knows..
[07:00] <gnuskool> Maybe you can help....the option to launch applications on my panel has gone, do you know how I can get it back?
[07:00] <DuClare> right-click on it and see what Add New Item gives..
[07:04] <gnuskool> all sorts of options, but nothing to put the settings and applications menu
[07:05] <DuClare> applications menu...
[07:05] <DuClare> try Xfce Menu
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[07:06] <gnuskool> that did the trick, thx mate
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[07:15] <tripte1> where does apt keep all its files???
[07:17] <Merchelo> what files exactly are you looking for?
[07:18] <tripte1> the one that have the information about what pkgs are installed and versions
[07:22] <Merchelo> you could use synaptic package manager in xubuntu to tell you that
[07:22] <tripte1> yeah, but I went all "rm -r /var/cache/*"
[07:22] <tripte1> so I cant open synaptic
[07:22] <Merchelo> hmm
[07:24] <tripte1> oh, now it works, I just hade to create folder atp in cache
[07:24] <tripte1> apt
[07:25] <tripte1> but still, where is it?
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[07:53] <eli_> hola
[07:53] <eli_> hi
[07:53] <eli_> alguien me puede ayudar?
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[07:53] <eli_> hello
[07:54] <eli_> can somebody helps me?
[07:54] <eli_> i need help with remote desktop
[07:54] <eli_> i dont know what i need to do for allow others computers conect to me
[07:56] <hyper__ch> eli_: well, what kind of computer do you have?
[07:56] <cruocitae> After booting feisty (the cd), and checking Start or install, my screen goes black. (actually, it displays a message: "Out of range") I tried graphics safe mode, same thing happens.
[07:56] <eli_> i have one laptop, compaq evo N1020v
[07:57] <eli_> and xubuntu
[07:57] <hyper__ch> eli_: well, I use krfb / krdc to do that... they are KDE appz and not lightweight but it's "idiot proof"
[07:57] <hyper__ch> eli_: that's why I asked ;)
[07:58] <eli_> yes i know krfb and krdc, but i dont know if there is some easy configuartion like gnome for xubuntu
[07:59] <eli_> it's, system, preferences remote desktop
[07:59] <eli_> in ubuntu
[07:59] <eli_> i need to install kde apps?
[07:59] <hyper__ch> eli_: never tried it... first I used ubuntu, then kubuntu and now xubuntu.... and in kubuntu I used it... it was just install and go... never tried to configure a vlc server on xubunztu
[07:59] <hyper__ch> !vlc | eli_
[07:59] <ubotu> eli_: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[07:59] <hyper__ch> !vnc | eli_
[07:59] <ubotu> eli_: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[07:59] <hyper__ch> vnc... not vlc ;)
[08:00] <eli_> err ok i see this link and i tell u
[08:01] <hyper__ch> !freenx
[08:01] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
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[08:01] <eli_> wich is more easy, freenx or vnc
[08:01] <eli_> ??
[08:01] <cruocitae> hyper__ch, can you also help me? (looks like there's not much activity in this chan)
[08:01] <hyper__ch> eli_: no clue... as said, I used krfb / krdc
[08:02] <hyper__ch> cruocitae: tried the noacpi settings?
[08:02] <eli_> yes, in other computer i use it too, but it have one password and im triyng conect withouth pass
[08:02] <cruocitae> ACPI is related to turning off, and stuff, no?
[08:03] <hyper__ch> cruocitae: acpi sometimes gives trouble... don't ask me why but it does
[08:03] <hyper__ch> !acpi
[08:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acpi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:03] <hyper__ch> !apci
[08:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apci - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:03] <cruocitae> It's acpi.
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[08:04] <cruocitae> And I don't understand what it has to do with screens, though I'm going to try it.
[08:04] <cruocitae> It also made a lot of trouble with FreeBSD 6.1 a few months ago.
[08:08] <test3r> Does ne1 have exp using Hydrogen or Ardour in *buntu? What kind of specs of a box should I be looking at for running the apps by themselfs  / or with running together thru jack. On xubuntu?
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[08:37] <Miteto> Hello people, I'm using Feisty, but X gives me headache. I'm trying hard to kill X by Ctrl+Alt+Bksp but the combo won't work. Any ideas how to make it work ?
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[08:47] <hyper__ch> Miteto: open a terminal and enter:  xkill
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[09:00] <Miteto> That's Ok but I need the combo to work because Xserver has something against Alsa - when a sound is played (mp3, cda, wav etc.) the system freezes and I want to know if Xserver has crashed or the entire system.
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[09:14] <darrend> is there an event fired somewhere when connection to a network is established that I can respond to with a script?
[09:14] <darrend> ideally one that passes the interface and the IP address or essid or whatever as params
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[09:38] <jessejazza> Be grateful if someone could tell me how to install XFCE. Currently got Ubuntu and wanted to see what XFCE was like. Newbie in case you hadn't guessed!
[09:39] <jessejazza> ... currently running Gnome is what i meant to say
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[09:51] <R[a] ndom> jessejazza,    sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop    should do it
[09:52] <R[a] ndom> if you want a gui solution you'll have to keep waiting ;)
[10:05] <jessejazza> Thanks - but i installed Ubuntu 6.10.
[10:05] <jessejazza> I assume it wasn't xubuntu wasn't installed onto HDD. So i need to download it from XFCE ?
[10:07] <Pumpernickel> !info xubuntu-desktop edgy
[10:07] <ubotu> xubuntu-desktop: Xubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 2.23 (edgy), package size 10 kB, installed size 36 kB
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[10:09] <jessejazza> so can i put the CD in again and get it from there?
[10:09] <Pumpernickel> If you have the Xubuntu install cd, sure.
[10:10] <jessejazza> No i have the Ubuntu - i thought XFCE was on there somewhere
[10:10] <Pumpernickel> Nope.
[10:13] <jessejazza> ok at present i'm using windoze to chat [loaded Ubu on a spare PC so i could learn about it before changing over completely] . So i need to download XFCE from www.xfce.org or can i use the synaptic?
[10:15] <Pumpernickel> You should use Synaptic.  That's what it's there for.
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[10:20] <jessejazza> So if i download XFCE where do i place it so that synaptic finds it
[10:22] <Pumpernickel> Synaptic downloads it for you, when you use it to install it.
[10:22] <Pumpernickel> Ubuntu uses a completely different system for installing/managing/uninstalling applications and packages, compared to what you're used to on Windows.
[10:23] <Pumpernickel> You should probably research it a bit, just so you understand what you're dealing with.
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[10:27] <nonlocal> hi what is the command to reconfigure my x settings (namely resolution)?
[10:27] <jessejazza> But what i can't see from reading the intro and Ubuntu Hacks is how you point the synaptic manager to whatever you want to download. I thought synaptic was a list of all packages and one clicks or whatever on a package and it finds it or downloads it.
[10:28] <Miteto> nonlocal:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:30] <nonlocal> Miteto:  thanks.
[10:30] <nonlocal> Miteto:  Is this going to blow away any changes I have made to xorg.conf?
[10:31] <zoredache> !automatix
[10:31] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[10:31] <Miteto> ...made so far. However It will backup your current xorg,conf
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[10:33] <Pumpernickel> jessejazza: The Ubuntu devs maintain a repository of packages, which are specified in /etc/apt/sources.list.  It fetches packages from those repositories.
[10:36] <mindframe> what file should i backup to keep all my xfce settings?
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[10:37] <zoredache> mindframe: the .config directory in ~/
[10:37] <Pumpernickel> ~/.config/, although most applications maintain their own config files and directories.
[10:38] <mindframe> im just curious about xfce and plugin settings
[10:38] <mindframe> thanks
[10:38] <zoredache> backing up everything in ~/ would let you be certain you have everything
[10:38] <mindframe> this is true
[10:39] <mindframe> automatix has brought hell to my system
[10:39] <mindframe> gonna wipe and reinstall
[10:39] <mindframe> also gonna do full disk encryption this time (laptop)
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[10:47] <mindframe> oh funny, automatix was just discussed in here
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[12:21] <soberon> Hi... Please Main differences between Xubuntu 6.06 and 6.06.1?... Wich one is better for an old laptop?
[12:21] <soberon> Or maybe the 7 series in better?
[12:27] <soberon> No advices for newbies??
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[12:55] <nikolam> I would put 7.04 anyway
[12:55] <cellofellow> nikolam: too bad he's gone now.
[12:55] <nikolam> ups didnt saw hin leaving
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[12:56] <cellofellow> Funny how people think that it's Version 6.1 or 7.04, and they don't realize it just means Released 2006 10 or 2007 4.
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[12:59] <nikolam> Hm, sure but I wouldnt consider Gutsy for instance for anything important. Tried it and reinstalled 7.04. I prefer Talking in versions then in Release name, dough
[12:59] <cellofellow> I say either use LTS or Latest, which rules out Edgy.
[01:00] <nikolam> That is definitely safest bet. But too drastic for me :) I like stable new releases, like 7.04
[01:02] <cellofellow> Gutsy isn't "Latest", it's Development.
[01:02] <cellofellow> Feisty is still Latest.
[01:02] <nikolam> Did you tried compiz&things? I Installed and my picture becomes blurry. And what is true use of Woobly windows, anyway? :)
[01:02] <nikolam> Yeah, i know. 7.04 is laest :))
[01:03] <cellofellow> I haven't tried Compiz. My computer is old but I'm getting a new one. ;)
[01:06] <nikolam> Me to. I was using P3-733/384MB Ram with Xubuntu. I upgraded to Amd X2 3600+@2.5ghz, 2Gig ram (beacouse of Vt instructions)
[01:07] <nikolam> But Intel 2160/2180 dc is definetly better for overclock on budget
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[01:08] <nikolam> I practically got MoBo with integrated GPU (690g) and dc cpu from Amd for the same price of i4300
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