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| monteslu | "OOXML is a superb standard and yet" - Miguel de Icaza | 05:27 |
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| monteslu | edubuntu should consider switching to kde :) | 05:28 |
| lameiro | hi. is edubuntu-users ML ok for release announcements? | 05:28 |
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| LaserJock | lameiro: release of what? | 05:39 |
| lameiro | LaserJock: hi. I participated in Summer of Code for Ubuntu, and have been developing a GTK+ gradebook application with Tom Hoffman mentoring. i was wondering if edubuntu-users is an appropriate list for the annoucement or if I should go somewhere else. | 05:41 |
| LaserJock | oh, please do and CC edubuntu-devel | 05:43 |
| lameiro | LaserJock: ok, thank you. :) | 05:44 |
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| sbalneav | Evening all | 05:45 |
| LaserJock | hi sbalneav | 05:55 |
| sbalneav | Hey LaserJock! | 05:56 |
| sbalneav | How's it going? | 05:56 |
| LaserJock | pretty decent | 05:56 |
| LaserJock | working on some data analysis for tomorrow | 05:56 |
| sbalneav | I'm just working on manual stuff. I got the multi-server docs from Francis, so I'm editing them. I'll get them into the tree and a new doco package pushed tonight. | 05:57 |
| LaserJock | awesome | 06:00 |
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| sbalneav | Back | 06:52 |
| LaserJock | sbalneav: so do you think it's about time for a full upload? | 07:11 |
| sbalneav | Which, of the docs? | 07:17 |
| sbalneav | Nah, gimme till tomorrow night. | 07:17 |
| sbalneav | I want to document the X ram settings a bit | 07:18 |
| sbalneav | then we should be good. | 07:18 |
| sbalneav | I just shipped it off to the ppa | 07:18 |
| sbalneav | I closed a couple of bugs in edubuntu-docs as well. | 07:19 |
| sbalneav | ok, late here. | 07:20 |
| sbalneav | Heading to bed. I'll let the ppa do it's thing | 07:20 |
| sbalneav | cheers | 07:20 |
| LaserJock | sbalneav: cya | 07:21 |
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| RichEd | hello LaserJock if you are still around | 08:10 |
| RichEd | and mr jsgotangco as well | 08:10 |
| LaserJock | hi RichEd | 08:10 |
| RichEd | how is the us of a ? chilling down towards winter ? | 08:11 |
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| jsgotangco | hi | 08:27 |
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| ogra | time for a break ... | 03:55 |
| shriphani | yeh. tomorrow the cs teacher is gonna talk on phone. | 03:58 |
| shriphani | I mailed a local lug here for assistance. | 03:58 |
| shriphani | they already have a program for colleges. | 03:58 |
| shriphani | and woohoooo recieved mail... they will support my endavour to convert schools !! | 04:02 |
| shriphani | endeavor ^ | 04:02 |
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| bddebian | Heya | 04:07 |
| shriphani | hello. | 04:07 |
| shriphani | yeah where do I get to contribute to some coding involving packaging ? | 04:08 |
| bddebian | #ubuntu-motu would probably be the best place to start | 04:08 |
| kgoetz | hi bddebian | 04:13 |
| bddebian | Heya kgoetz | 04:14 |
| kgoetz | :) | 04:15 |
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| ^Migs^ | How do I find out what software is planned on being included in Edubuntu for future releases, but isn't in there yet? | 04:20 |
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| sbalneav | Morning all | 04:20 |
| ^Migs^ | Greetings! | 04:20 |
| ^Migs^ | I'm trying to get some software ideas for a new school I'm helping set up | 04:21 |
| kgoetz | hi both | 04:22 |
| ogra | hey sbalneav i fixed ltsp-update-image finally | 04:22 |
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| sbalneav | Did you? Excellent! | 04:24 |
| ogra | well, not in the branch yet | 04:24 |
| ogra | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37114/ | 04:24 |
| ogra | but it seems to wark alricght | 04:24 |
| sbalneav | Have you merged from me? We made a couple of changes yesterday. Nothing major. | 04:25 |
| ogra | not yet, but according to the commit mails you only worked on the screed.d and session scripts | 04:25 |
| ogra | i fixed all base functionallity of TCM | 04:26 |
| ogra | listing, killing procs and killing users now works properly again | 04:26 |
| ogra | i'd love a sane screenshooter app | 04:26 |
| ogra | but waht i wrote so far is based on xwd ... and makes the users cursor flash all the time | 04:27 |
| ogra | (it puts on nearly no load on server client or network though ... and te screenshots are only 5k) | 04:28 |
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| RichEd | hi ogra, Kamping_Kaiser, sbalneav | 04:31 |
| RichEd | how's things ? | 04:31 |
| ogra | busy | 04:31 |
| ogra | huntig bugs like mad | 04:31 |
| === RichEd thought so ... | ||
| Kamping_Kaiser | RichEd, just so. thinking putting som ework into getting ready for SFD would be a good idea | 04:32 |
| moquist | Has anybody in here tried out iTALC? | 04:35 |
| ogra | moquist, planned for possible inclusion in hardy | 04:36 |
| moquist | So it must be good, then. | 04:36 |
| ogra | it has some bad security holes | 04:36 |
| === moquist nods | ||
| ogra | and it links against libssl | 04:36 |
| ogra | if these two are fixed i'd like it at least on the addon CD and in main | 04:36 |
| moquist | I'm thinking about recommending it on a statewide mailing list, and I wanted to be sure I wasn't recommending something crap. | 04:37 |
| moquist | ogra: makes sense. | 04:37 |
| ogra | it even seems to work properly with ltsp5 | 04:38 |
| ogra | stgraber made some tests | 04:38 |
| === moquist nods -- makes sense | ||
| ogra | for small setups i'd still rather recommend TCM though | 04:39 |
| ogra | and as long as we have TCM i wont put italc in the default install | 04:39 |
| moquist | Sure. Our problem with teachertool & TCM is that we don't have small setups, and those tools aren't useful when you have hundreds of TCs spread throughout a school. | 04:39 |
| ogra | right | 04:40 |
| ogra | thats why i want italc easily available | 04:40 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | TC? | 04:40 |
| ogra | but i dont want to cannicalize TCM :) | 04:40 |
| moquist | Kamping_Kaiser: Thin Client | 04:40 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | oh, duh :$ | 04:40 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ty | 04:40 |
| moquist | :) | 04:41 |
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| cliebow_ | ok ok igive up..what? | 04:43 |
| cliebow_ | ok ok igive up..Hardy what? | 04:44 |
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| pygi | hello | 04:45 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | hi | 04:47 |
| RichEd | moquist: they use it for guadalinex (italc) | 04:47 |
| ogra | cliebow_, heron | 04:47 |
| cliebow_ | Cool!! | 04:47 |
| RichEd | moquist: and i have this comment as well from intel | 04:47 |
| RichEd | > The closest possible open source software is | 04:47 |
| RichEd | > "ControlAula": | 04:47 |
| RichEd | > | 04:47 |
| RichEd | > http://www.itais.net/controlaula_english/ | 04:47 |
| RichEd | > | 04:47 |
| RichEd | > It works, but is not perfect and could do with | 04:47 |
| cliebow_ | goes with Great Blue Heron.. | 04:48 |
| RichEd | > an interface lift and some logic improvements. | 04:48 |
| RichEd | > Also has debian package. | 04:48 |
| ogra | and is freaky gambas code | 04:48 |
| === ogra is no fan of controlaula ... | ||
| moquist | "closest possible" to what? | 04:49 |
| RichEd | moquist: their windows application :) | 04:49 |
| moquist | ahhhh! :) | 04:49 |
| moquist | I think dtrask just started with iTALC this semester, so I've asked him for comments, too. | 04:50 |
| ogra | i think stgraber ad probs with locking/unlocking screens but thats about it | 04:50 |
| moquist | I'm sure the people who were asking on this statewide educators mailing list are only looking at Windows. | 04:51 |
| moquist | Unless...they might have some Macs, in which case iTALC won't cut it for them. | 04:51 |
| RichEd | moquist: I have a comparative doc I can mail you (unofficially) | 04:52 |
| moquist | RichEd: Would you mind if I unofficially send it on to a mailing list? | 04:53 |
| moquist | RichEd: Well, go ahead and send it in any case, please. :) But may I also send it on? | 04:53 |
| RichEd | moquist: it is the windows options comparisons ... not open source | 04:53 |
| RichEd | let me sanitise | 04:53 |
| moquist | k; thanks | 04:53 |
| RichEd | moquist: it compares features for LanSchool | 04:58 |
| RichEd | SychronEyes | 04:58 |
| RichEd | Net Support School | 04:58 |
| RichEd | Geneva Vision 6 | 04:58 |
| moquist | Yep, SychronEyes and Geneva Vision 6 are the two they asked about. Is iTALC a reasonable alternative? | 04:59 |
| moquist | I was conservative in my response ("I've never tried this but I've heard good things"), but I just hate pointing people to Free Software that is also crap software. | 05:00 |
| RichEd | italc is not on the comparison yet | 05:02 |
| RichEd | mailing it to you now | 05:02 |
| RichEd | (Net Support School supports linux, but i think it is commercial) | 05:02 |
| RichEd | ping highvoltage | 05:02 |
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| ^Migs^ | http://www.skreemr.com | 05:26 |
| ^Migs^ | nice | 05:26 |
| sbalneav | ogra: Pushed your stuff yet? | 05:35 |
| stgraber | ogra: locking/unlocking worked fine, demo, shutdown and logout didn't | 05:49 |
| sbalneav | Holy crumb! | 05:50 |
| sbalneav | I just printed out the edubuntu handbook. | 05:50 |
| stgraber | moquist: here we are switching from Vision6 to Italc, so I think iTalc is considered as a reasonable alternative | 05:50 |
| sbalneav | Guess how many pages it is? | 05:50 |
| sbalneav | Just guess | 05:50 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | few hundred? | 05:51 |
| sbalneav | Not quite that long, no :) | 05:52 |
| sbalneav | but 50. | 05:52 |
| sbalneav | Not bad, | 05:52 |
| sbalneav | It's getting sizable. | 05:52 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | not bad. | 05:53 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | how long until string freeze? | 05:53 |
| sbalneav | Tomorrow | 05:53 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | gah. | 05:53 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | cant proofread it tonight >.< | 05:53 |
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| sbalneav | Tonight, I have to go through the handbook, add one small section, and then make sure that all the info's up to date, and in line with changes we've made. | 05:54 |
| stgraber | sorry, irssi crash | 05:54 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i was hoping you'd say a week :\ | 05:54 |
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| moquist | stgraber: Thanks for the feedback. I'll be surprised if they take such an enormous risk as to go with Free Software. All the other responses have been "We use (Vision6|SynchronEyes) here and it works great!!" | 06:46 |
| moquist | Well, there's nothing for it but to keep pushing this boulder [back] up the hill. | 06:47 |
| moquist | stgraber: Really? I've never gotten irssi to crash. :) | 06:47 |
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| stgraber | moquist: well, Vision6 doesn't work correctly here :) | 07:22 |
| stgraber | moquist: that's the main reason for them to switch to iTALC | 07:23 |
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| moquist | stgraber: where's "here", and why doesn't it work correctly? | 07:29 |
| === moquist quickly emails the list: "Another reason to use iTALC -- Vision 6 doesn't work where stgraber is!" | ||
| moquist | :-) | 07:29 |
| stgraber | here is switzerland (french part) | 07:30 |
| stgraber | they are having some problem with the teacher computer unable to find any student computer | 07:30 |
| stgraber | and things like that, as I understood they also have some kind of licencing issue | 07:30 |
| === moquist too...it's not GPL, or even OSI | ||
| stgraber | they had to order the correct amount of licence but use the same licence number on all the computers | 07:30 |
| moquist | ha ha! We had something similar happen with Symantec Ghost. | 07:31 |
| stgraber | as otherwise they wouldn't be able to manage all the computers or something like that | 07:31 |
| moquist | We said "5000 computers, 10 different sites" and then they told us to use the same key everywhere. So I think we got 5k computers PER site. | 07:31 |
| jessejazza | HI is there a forum for edubuntu | 07:31 |
| ^Migs^ | A forum!? Hogwash! Poppycock! | 07:33 |
| stgraber | not sure, if yes you'll find it on www.ubuntuforums.org | 07:34 |
| jessejazza | I think there is the main Ubuntu forum - it's getting so large now. I was wondering that's all - i'm a teacher and about to start using it. | 07:41 |
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| sbalneav | jessejazza: Probably the best would be to sign up to the edubuntu-users mailing list | 07:47 |
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| sbalneav | Back | 09:27 |
| thedman | I have a newbie question. | 09:28 |
| thedman | I have set up a edubuntu lab, everythings working great. | 09:28 |
| thedman | But I'm confused about the update process. | 09:28 |
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| thedman | If I update as a sudo user from one of the workstations, does that update the entire edubuntu system. | 09:28 |
| thedman | Or just the ltsp sessions? | 09:29 |
| ^Migs^ | he sure didn't wait very long for an answer | 10:03 |
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| sbalneav | Nope | 10:31 |
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| shemmy | my daughter wants the wallpaper with the chalk world map, from version 6. does anyone have or know where to get it? | 10:41 |
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