alleeuhh, 11 kblueplugd running  (n-1 restart by session management :( )01:15
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alleeif app.isSessionRestored(): quit()   # dirty fix01:16
alleeif I would know how to get the qsessionmanager instance, I could use qsm.setRestartHint(RestartNever).  Anyone know how to get qsm of a QApplication?01:17
mhballee: I'm not really experienced with qsessionmanager, but the API docs seem to indicate that you get the qsm instance as a parameter of e.g. qapp.commitData()01:24
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mhbhey nixternal01:35
mhbnixternal: are you going to uds?01:36
nixternalchecking to see if my connection has stablized yet01:36
nixternalI am trying to go to UDS..I have put in my request for days off so now I just have to wait01:36
mhbnixternal: do you know what the first part (sat/sun) is about? I've overheard some upstream devs are invited for that but I happen not to be, so I wondered01:37
nixternalwhat I have heard is it will be for upstream devs only...JR wasn't even sure what it was all about01:38
nixternalprobably sabdfl talking about trying to get everyone on the same dev cycle or such01:38
mhbnixternal: do you remember Kuhrsher's request about separate downstream and upstream translator info in the kaboutdata?01:39
mhbnixternal: did you happen to do work on it in the meantime?01:40
nixternalI haven't been able to because of my internet connection...I still can't download anything yet01:40
nixternalsupposedly they are doing work in our area now for like a week01:40
mhbnixternal: no problem, I just wanted to know01:42
mhbI hope your connection gets better soon01:42
nixternalya same here01:42
nixternalthis is the longest I have been online in quite a few days01:42
mhbnixternal: by the way, what are your plans for hardy?01:49
nixternaldunno yet01:51
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mhbwhy does apport need a root privileges?02:07
mhbis it collecting some information not accessible to the current user?02:08
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ryanakcaHmm... anybody want to take over bug 136560 ?03:21
ubotuLaunchpad bug 136560 in kdebase "kde-base update install env and share folder at wrong place" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13656003:21
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alleeLure: strigidaemon is rock solid 639 min with hard 100% cpu work and no crash! :)09:50
Lureallee: not sure if crash would not be better option here ;-)09:50
Lureallee: this is how second gphoto2 works here: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=200709110939.08299.lure%40ubuntu.com&forum_name=gphoto-devel09:52
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Lureallee: will you work on new libkdcraw and libkexiv2 for debian or should we just do ubuntu UVF?10:03
Jucatomoin _StefanS_10:03
Lure_StefanS_: morning10:03
_StefanS_hi all :)10:04
Jucatohi Hobbsee10:05
Jucatohi Lure, hi allee, hi *10:05
Luremorning Hobbseeand Jucato (better afternoon, for you two, right ;-) )10:08
Jucatoevening for Hobbsee, afternoon for me :)10:08
HobbseeLure: :)10:08
Hobbseeoh, i guess i'm the one approving kde release stuff10:09
Jucatoheheh :)10:09
Hobbseeas in, all of it, instead of co-doing it with Riddell10:09
Jucatothink of it as sharpening and extending your long pointy stick :)10:09
LureHobbsee: exactly - let's break something!10:11
HobbseeLure: speaking of which, i requested a sync for libexiv2 ages ago, but never checked if all of the rdepends used the new version - i seem to recall running out of tiem10:12
LureHobbsee: did ABI change?10:15
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LureHobbsee: otherwise allee is expert for these photo libraries10:15
LureHobbsee: is there a bug in LP?10:26
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alleeLure: new libkdcraw (is it released?) will be blocked by the changed license of draw :(   libkexiv2 (and exiv2) will need a library transition and by digikam for KDE4.  AFAIR it will be optional for digikam 0.9.3 released after gusty11:02
alleeLure: so IMHO that's gutsy++.  I'll keep an eye on the libgphoto bugs and will cherry pick some patches from 0.9.311:03
allee'The' blocker: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dcraw/+bug/8648011:06
ubotuLaunchpad bug 86480 in dcraw "UVF exception : dcraw 8.39 -> 8.61" [Wishlist,Incomplete] 11:06
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alleeHobbsee: what the problemw with libexiv2?  Both, debian and kubuntu have 0.1.5.  Upcoming 0.1.6 will break ABI11:10
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Hobbseeallee: i requested a sync for 0.1.5, but didnt get around to testing the rest of the rdeps11:12
alleeHobbsee: nothing depends on libexiv2-0.12 anymore.  So looks like lib transition is done.  Mhmm, then could be removed from the gutsy archive11:15
alleeoh, apt-cache show libexiv2-0.12  return nothing, so it's already removed11:16
Hobbseenice :)11:17
alleeLure: about your G3 prob. if it goes away after 2.4.0 -> 2.3.1 as in my case, we can blame ubuntu CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND=y IMHO as Paul suggests11:21
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Lureallee: ok, regarding libkexiv2/libkdcraw - too late to go in license discussions and library transitions at this point12:11
Lurewill test my issue with older gphoto2 - I tried to reproduce your problem, but got this one ;-)12:11
Jucatohm... I can't see to launch KPPP from the kmenu. ls -l /usr/bin/kppp says that it has +s (is that suid?). Is that correct?12:14
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Tonio_hi thre12:17
Jucatohello :)12:17
Hobbseehi  Tonio_!12:19
Tonio_plan for the day, fix the kdebluetooth segfault :/12:24
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ryanakcaJucato: Yep, I found it :)01:13
ryanakcaHmm... anybody want to take over bug 136560 ?01:14
ubotuLaunchpad bug 136560 in kdebase "kde-base update install env and share folder at wrong place" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13656001:14
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alleeHi Tonio_01:26
alleekblueplugd after  app =  can you add as next line:     if app.isSessionRestored(): exit()  # get rid of processes started via session management01:27
alleeit's a workaround until I've found out how to disable session management01:27
Tonio_allee: session management is restored in kdebluetooth itself, that's in the code01:30
Tonio_allee: ./kdebluetooth/kbluetooth/application.cpp:    disableSessionManagement();01:33
Tonio_allee: should I still add this ?01:33
alleeTonio_: yeah, it does it automaticly.  But as we use the autostart mechanism it's not needed.  I had 13 kblueplugd --session ... running and the one started by autostart.  Every logout/in would add one more.  Therefore the, argl. shit: it's quit() not exit() :(01:33
alleeif app.isSessionRestored(): quit()01:34
Tonio_allee: ho kblueplug is restored itself ?01:34
Tonio_allee: okay I'll commit a fix toonight01:35
Tonio_Lure: wanted me to upload something ?01:35
Tonio_allee: I'm also working on the segfault bug in the kcm_btpaired01:35
Tonio_trying to trace this one01:35
Tonio_allee: noticed the share and env folders in the $HOME are back ?01:35
Tonio_or is it just me ?01:35
alleeTonio_:  mhhm, $KDEHOME/env worked always for me.  I've the a ssh-ask wrapper01:37
alleein env01:37
Tonio_allee: yeah but the gtk-qt thing shouldn't be there btw01:38
Tonio_same as the kwalletrc01:38
Tonio_allee: so quit and not exit right ?01:38
alleeTonio_: yes,  quit() is the right method01:39
Tonio_allee: oki01:39
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Tonio_well then I have to figure out why did Riddell-awa change that for the wallet and other things01:39
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LureTonio_: kdepim from my ppa - just need to remove ~ppa~lureX from version02:03
vprintsdid d3lphin translations from upstream source got included to kubuntu ?02:07
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Tonio_Lure: got a url ? never playd with ppa yet and no time to search ;)02:09
Tonio_Lure: is that on your launchpad page ?02:09
LureTonio_: https://launchpad.net/~lure/+archive02:10
LureTonio_: just add deb-src and apt-get source02:10
Tonio_Lure: uploading02:10
LureTonio_: thanks02:17
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hungerHmm.... I have two strigidaemons running eating 100% CPU plus two trackerds... is that supposed to happen?04:35
ScottKOnly if you are doing some kind of twisted stress test.04:36
hungerScottK: Nope. I am trying to surf the web, but obviously I can't really do that properly:-(04:36
Jucatowith strigi, are we ever sure of what supposed to or not supposed to happen? :)04:36
Jucato(at least on KDE 3?)04:36
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hungerScottK: Maybe it is just two threads.04:37
hungerScottK: Hard to tell in top..04:37
ScottKMaybe.  I'd see if it persists.  If it's threads, they'll drop or change PID.04:37
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mhbhi folks05:03
mhbScottK: here?05:04
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ScottKSort of.05:04
nixternalyay, some internet...only wish it was at home though :(05:04
mhbScottK: hmm, could you rebuild kdebase with a patch and tell me if the python konsole kpart out of memory bug disappears?05:05
ScottKI can try.05:05
ScottKCan you put it in a PPA and rebuild it there?05:06
mhbpeople are getting lazier all the time :o)05:06
mhbI am talking about me being lazy to learn PPA, of course :o)05:06
mhbyeah, I can try05:07
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mhbScottK: I have narrowed the bug to about 15 lines, now all it takes is to find it05:07
ScottKmhb: The laptop I have Gutsy on is affected by Bug 127772 and so building stuff like kdepim is problematic.05:11
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manchickenxgl's keybindings suck.11:54
vprintsdid the upstream translations of dolphin for kde3 also got uploaded to *ubuntu ?11:54
manchickenThe Win key doesn't seem to be visible to KDE under xgl.11:54
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