[01:15] <allee> uhh, 11 kblueplugd running  (n-1 restart by session management :( )
[01:16] <allee> if app.isSessionRestored(): quit()   # dirty fix
[01:17] <allee> if I would know how to get the qsessionmanager instance, I could use qsm.setRestartHint(RestartNever).  Anyone know how to get qsm of a QApplication?
[01:24] <mhb> allee: I'm not really experienced with qsessionmanager, but the API docs seem to indicate that you get the qsm instance as a parameter of e.g. qapp.commitData()
[01:35] <mhb> hey nixternal
[01:35] <nixternal> howdy
[01:36] <mhb> nixternal: are you going to uds?
[01:36] <nixternal> checking to see if my connection has stablized yet
[01:36] <nixternal> I am trying to go to UDS..I have put in my request for days off so now I just have to wait
[01:37] <mhb> nixternal: do you know what the first part (sat/sun) is about? I've overheard some upstream devs are invited for that but I happen not to be, so I wondered
[01:38] <nixternal> what I have heard is it will be for upstream devs only...JR wasn't even sure what it was all about
[01:38] <mhb> ah
[01:38] <nixternal> probably sabdfl talking about trying to get everyone on the same dev cycle or such
[01:39] <mhb> nixternal: do you remember Kuhrsher's request about separate downstream and upstream translator info in the kaboutdata?
[01:40] <nixternal> yes
[01:40] <mhb> nixternal: did you happen to do work on it in the meantime?
[01:40] <nixternal> I haven't been able to because of my internet connection...I still can't download anything yet
[01:40] <nixternal> supposedly they are doing work in our area now for like a week
[01:42] <mhb> nixternal: no problem, I just wanted to know
[01:42] <mhb> I hope your connection gets better soon
[01:42] <nixternal> ya same here
[01:42] <nixternal> this is the longest I have been online in quite a few days
[01:49] <mhb> nixternal: by the way, what are your plans for hardy?
[01:51] <nixternal> dunno yet
[02:07] <mhb> why does apport need a root privileges?
[02:08] <mhb> is it collecting some information not accessible to the current user?
[03:21] <ryanakca> Hmm... anybody want to take over bug 136560 ?
[03:21] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 136560 in kdebase "kde-base update install env and share folder at wrong place" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136560
[09:50] <allee> Lure: strigidaemon is rock solid 639 min with hard 100% cpu work and no crash! :)
[09:50] <Lure> allee: not sure if crash would not be better option here ;-)
[09:50] <Jucato> hehe
[09:52] <Lure> allee: this is how second gphoto2 works here: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=200709110939.08299.lure%40ubuntu.com&forum_name=gphoto-devel
[10:02] <_StefanS_> morning
[10:03] <Lure> allee: will you work on new libkdcraw and libkexiv2 for debian or should we just do ubuntu UVF?
[10:03] <Jucato> moin _StefanS_
[10:03] <Lure> _StefanS_: morning
[10:04] <Hobbsee> hiya
[10:04] <_StefanS_> hi all :)
[10:05] <Jucato> hi Hobbsee
[10:05] <Jucato> hi Lure, hi allee, hi *
[10:08] <Lure> morning Hobbseeand Jucato (better afternoon, for you two, right ;-) )
[10:08] <Jucato> evening for Hobbsee, afternoon for me :)
[10:08] <Hobbsee> Lure: :)
[10:09] <Hobbsee> oh, i guess i'm the one approving kde release stuff
[10:09] <Jucato> heheh :)
[10:09] <Hobbsee> as in, all of it, instead of co-doing it with Riddell
[10:09] <Jucato> think of it as sharpening and extending your long pointy stick :)
[10:11] <Lure> Hobbsee: exactly - let's break something!
[10:12] <Hobbsee> mmm....breakage...
[10:12] <Hobbsee> Lure: speaking of which, i requested a sync for libexiv2 ages ago, but never checked if all of the rdepends used the new version - i seem to recall running out of tiem
[10:15] <Lure> Hobbsee: did ABI change?
[10:15] <Lure> Hobbsee: otherwise allee is expert for these photo libraries
[10:16] <Hobbsee> unsure.
[10:26] <Lure> Hobbsee: is there a bug in LP?
[10:27] <Hobbsee> for?
[11:02] <allee> Lure: new libkdcraw (is it released?) will be blocked by the changed license of draw :(   libkexiv2 (and exiv2) will need a library transition and by digikam for KDE4.  AFAIR it will be optional for digikam 0.9.3 released after gusty
[11:03] <allee> Lure: so IMHO that's gutsy++.  I'll keep an eye on the libgphoto bugs and will cherry pick some patches from 0.9.3
[11:06] <allee> 'The' blocker: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dcraw/+bug/86480
[11:06] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 86480 in dcraw "UVF exception : dcraw 8.39 -> 8.61" [Wishlist,Incomplete] 
[11:10] <allee> Hobbsee: what the problemw with libexiv2?  Both, debian and kubuntu have 0.1.5.  Upcoming 0.1.6 will break ABI
[11:12] <Hobbsee> allee: i requested a sync for 0.1.5, but didnt get around to testing the rest of the rdeps
[11:15] <allee> Hobbsee: nothing depends on libexiv2-0.12 anymore.  So looks like lib transition is done.  Mhmm, then could be removed from the gutsy archive
[11:16] <allee> oh, apt-cache show libexiv2-0.12  return nothing, so it's already removed
[11:17] <Hobbsee> nice :)
[11:21] <allee> Lure: about your G3 prob. if it goes away after 2.4.0 -> 2.3.1 as in my case, we can blame ubuntu CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND=y IMHO as Paul suggests
[12:11] <Lure> allee: ok, regarding libkexiv2/libkdcraw - too late to go in license discussions and library transitions at this point
[12:11] <Lure> will test my issue with older gphoto2 - I tried to reproduce your problem, but got this one ;-)
[12:14] <Jucato> hm... I can't see to launch KPPP from the kmenu. ls -l /usr/bin/kppp says that it has +s (is that suid?). Is that correct?
[12:17] <Tonio_> hi thre
[12:17] <Tonio_> there
[12:17] <Jucato> hello :)
[12:19] <Hobbsee> hi  Tonio_!
[12:24] <Tonio_> plan for the day, fix the kdebluetooth segfault :/
[01:13] <ryanakca> Jucato: Yep, I found it :)
[01:14] <ryanakca> Hmm... anybody want to take over bug 136560 ?
[01:14] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 136560 in kdebase "kde-base update install env and share folder at wrong place" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/136560
[01:26] <allee> Hi Tonio_
[01:27] <allee> kblueplugd after  app =  can you add as next line:     if app.isSessionRestored(): exit()  # get rid of processes started via session management
[01:27] <allee> it's a workaround until I've found out how to disable session management
[01:30] <Tonio_> allee: session management is restored in kdebluetooth itself, that's in the code
[01:33] <Tonio_> allee: ./kdebluetooth/kbluetooth/application.cpp:    disableSessionManagement();
[01:33] <Tonio_> allee: should I still add this ?
[01:33] <allee> Tonio_: yeah, it does it automaticly.  But as we use the autostart mechanism it's not needed.  I had 13 kblueplugd --session ... running and the one started by autostart.  Every logout/in would add one more.  Therefore the, argl. shit: it's quit() not exit() :(
[01:34] <allee> if app.isSessionRestored(): quit()
[01:34] <Tonio_> allee: ho kblueplug is restored itself ?
[01:35] <Tonio_> allee: okay I'll commit a fix toonight
[01:35] <Tonio_> Lure: wanted me to upload something ?
[01:35] <Tonio_> allee: I'm also working on the segfault bug in the kcm_btpaired
[01:35] <Tonio_> trying to trace this one
[01:35] <Tonio_> allee: noticed the share and env folders in the $HOME are back ?
[01:35] <Tonio_> or is it just me ?
[01:37] <allee> Tonio_:  mhhm, $KDEHOME/env worked always for me.  I've the a ssh-ask wrapper
[01:37] <allee> in env
[01:38] <Tonio_> allee: yeah but the gtk-qt thing shouldn't be there btw
[01:38] <Tonio_> same as the kwalletrc
[01:38] <Tonio_> allee: so quit and not exit right ?
[01:39] <allee> Tonio_: yes,  quit() is the right method
[01:39] <Tonio_> allee: oki
[01:39] <Tonio_> well then I have to figure out why did Riddell-awa change that for the wallet and other things
[02:03] <Lure> Tonio_: kdepim from my ppa - just need to remove ~ppa~lureX from version
[02:07] <vprints> did d3lphin translations from upstream source got included to kubuntu ?
[02:09] <Tonio_> Lure: got a url ? never playd with ppa yet and no time to search ;)
[02:09] <Tonio_> Lure: is that on your launchpad page ?
[02:10] <Lure> Tonio_: https://launchpad.net/~lure/+archive
[02:10] <Lure> Tonio_: just add deb-src and apt-get source
[02:10] <Tonio_> Lure: uploading
[02:17] <Lure> Tonio_: thanks
[04:07] <bddebian> Heya
[04:35] <hunger> Hmm.... I have two strigidaemons running eating 100% CPU plus two trackerds... is that supposed to happen?
[04:36] <ScottK> Only if you are doing some kind of twisted stress test.
[04:36] <hunger> ScottK: Nope. I am trying to surf the web, but obviously I can't really do that properly:-(
[04:36] <Jucato> with strigi, are we ever sure of what supposed to or not supposed to happen? :)
[04:36] <Jucato> (at least on KDE 3?)
[04:37] <hunger> ScottK: Maybe it is just two threads.
[04:37] <hunger> ScottK: Hard to tell in top..
[04:37] <ScottK> Maybe.  I'd see if it persists.  If it's threads, they'll drop or change PID.
[05:03] <mhb> hi folks
[05:04] <mhb> ScottK: here?
[05:04] <ScottK> Sort of.
[05:04] <nixternal> yay, some internet...only wish it was at home though :(
[05:05] <mhb> ScottK: hmm, could you rebuild kdebase with a patch and tell me if the python konsole kpart out of memory bug disappears?
[05:05] <ScottK> I can try.
[05:06] <ScottK> Can you put it in a PPA and rebuild it there?
[05:06] <mhb> people are getting lazier all the time :o)
[05:06] <mhb> I am talking about me being lazy to learn PPA, of course :o)
[05:07] <mhb> yeah, I can try
[05:07] <mhb> ScottK: I have narrowed the bug to about 15 lines, now all it takes is to find it
[05:11] <ScottK> mhb: The laptop I have Gutsy on is affected by Bug 127772 and so building stuff like kdepim is problematic.
[11:54] <manchicken> xgl's keybindings suck.
[11:54] <vprints> did the upstream translations of dolphin for kde3 also got uploaded to *ubuntu ?
[11:54] <manchicken> The Win key doesn't seem to be visible to KDE under xgl.