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codyok here itgoes again :D. my fingets are crossed12:39
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cody-_- now i need to find Python livbrary/headers12:40
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hydrogencody: is the package you are trying to install in the repo?12:40
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codyprolly not,12:41
codysuperkaramba12:41
hydrogen!info superkaramba12:41
ubotusuperkaramba: a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 533 kB, installed size 1428 kB12:41
hydrogenso12:41
hydrogenyes12:41
hydrogenbut if you still feel like installing manually for whatever reason12:41
hydrogensudo apt-get build-dep superkaramba12:42
idagasi can't figure out a damn thing for kubuntu, i have no wired connection and can't seem to get any packages to install...12:42
codyheh12:42
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idagasis it possible to download all the files you need prior to having intalled kubuntu 7 to get ndiswrapper to work?12:43
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Biovoreidagas: yup... just got to know what deb packages you need..  and save them on a cd or something..12:43
codyyes12:43
idagasit just seems like you have to have an internet connection to get started12:44
idagasi'm tryin to do that12:44
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zgmf-x20a!register12:44
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration12:44
idagasi got a number of kernal modules and build-essential etc...12:44
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idagascan't get them to install12:44
idagasall the .debs have 'errors can't find...'12:45
BluesKaj!sources.list12:46
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu12:46
codywow 388meg worth of dependancies12:46
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codyso... how do i run superkaramba?12:47
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Biovorecody: alt-f2 and type superkaramba12:49
Biovoreits in the menu's somewhere as well12:49
codyyou rock12:50
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jago_can some one tell me if there is an equalizer for Kaffeine12:52
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bigleon1Is it possible on kubuntu to seemesly switch between US keyboard and Ger board?12:53
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BeyerUsing kubuntu, and cant get sounds working. Mixer cannot be found, how to fix this?12:53
bigleon1LIke XP there is like this button on app bar i can hit to change them12:53
codyThankyouguys soo much12:54
codyyouv been a big help12:54
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BeyerUsing kubuntu, and cant get sounds working. Mixer cannot be found,  lspci says Multimedia audio controller ALi12:56
codySo anyy news on the knetworkmanager alternative12:56
Biovorecody: the alternitive is not to use it..  (Thats what I do..)12:57
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codyBiovore: How do I connect then?12:59
Beyertail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat says MIXERS NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG12:59
mauriit's possibile t resize a partition without to lose data12:59
codyIm using linksys and knetwork dosnt like linksys01:00
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elzbalmauri: Yes it is, but it's a bit dangerous. You can do a google search for "ubuntu resize partition". The first link looks promising, but I've never done it, so I don't know to suggest any particular method to you.01:04
codyTrying to install a new mouse theme and there is a make.sh but all it does is opens in kate01:04
maurielzbal: ok i supposed01:06
maurielzbal: thanks01:06
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codycan anyonepoint me in the correct direction01:06
elzbalmauri: Like I said, it's a bit dangerous. I'd back up anything you care about first.01:06
maurielzbal: sorry i didn't understan01:07
elzbalmauri: Well, you have the possibility of losing all the data on your machine. So if you want to keep any of it, I'd make a backup first.01:08
maurielzbal: ok now it's clear01:08
BluesKajmauri check out GParted , a live cd partition editor , which i have used sucessfully several times to resize and move partitions , both linux and windows > I f you are resizng a windows partition however , be sure to defrag it first.01:09
maurielzbal: sorry my english is not so good01:09
maurielzbal: thank however01:09
elzbalmauri: No problem.  :)01:09
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mauriBluesKaj: thank you very much01:12
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henrik_hey folks! I think i\ve messed up pretty badly, I have somehow removed my graphic drivers, so my x server didnt want to start.. i mangaged to rewrite xorg.conf into getting kde up again, but things looks like hell, no menu, no clock etc.. first day with kubuntu trying to get my nvidiadrivers to work. Anyone got any suggestions?01:14
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scheater5this may not be the perfect place for this, but I couldn't find a channel on hardware.  Does anyone know anything about the Archos 605 WiFi?01:19
powrwhere to look for epson stylus 1270 driver?01:20
scheater5Or even the Archos brand in general - I have a couple of questions not specific to the 60501:20
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powrscheater5: we dont seem to be lucky01:21
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paolohi01:22
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bigleon1You guys can always start looking at google01:22
scheater5powr: so it would seem.  epson stylus...that's a printer?  I don't know where to go for that particullar printer, but in the past I've had luck with the driver the next version up from the printer I have, if it exists.01:22
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scheater5bigleon1:  I've got a couple questions I can't find on google - or maybe I just need some direction on something I don't understand.  Would anyone have a suggestion as to a channel where I might have better luck with a peripheral (it's an internet tablet) question?01:23
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ritohi01:24
ritosomething01:24
ritoknow how start kopete01:24
bigleon1scheater5: To be honest man, My keys to starting a search is make sure you include ubuntu, somethign doesn't have to be for kubuntu to work on it. then also check forums, to make sure it isn't a spoof hardware, for example on the Dell 720 Photo Printer, there is an HP printer, that is exact samething with linux drivers out on net. It takes some time man, but just gotta keep your eye open01:26
BeyerUsing kubuntu, and cant get sounds working. Mixer cannot be found,  lspci says Multimedia audio controller ALi01:27
Beyertail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat says MIXERS NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG01:27
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zgmf-x20a_hey guys having an issue registering here, not sure why, can anyone help me out?01:34
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codyis there a quick and easy way to restart X in kde without restarting thw whole comp?01:35
zgmf-x20ahmmm ok.... wth?01:35
Daisuke_Laptopcody: either sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart01:36
Daisuke_Laptopor just hit ctrl-alt-backspace01:36
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codyback01:39
codyand kde ran some wierd wizard that i have never seen b4 and changed all my old settings01:39
BluesKaj!register01:41
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration01:41
codyhow do i install a new mouse theme01:42
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_Angelus_cody: its because you installed the kde metapackage01:43
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_Angelus_that weird wizer is kpersonalizer01:43
_Angelus_or something01:43
felipe_hi01:43
BluesKaj!hi01:43
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!01:43
_Angelus_if you want everything back cody  "sudo dpkg --reconfigure kubuntu-default-settings" if im not wrong01:44
felipe_someone know how configure kubuntu feisty to use usb mass storage drivers?01:44
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level1hi, I installed kubuntu with the alternate install cd about a month ago, and I gave it my wireless info and wep key so it could log into my internet... anyway, it must of written it down somewhere and now knetworkmanager won't manager my connections, it just shows the ethernet icon no matter what my connection status is.  wlanassist still works, but I want knetworkmanager in commission again01:44
codynope but can anyone help me install a mouse theme?01:46
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level1felipe_: usually that should "just work"  so either the file format on the disk (ntfs) doesn't work or you have very unusual hard ware01:47
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level1felipe_: if your using ntfs, htfs+, or some unusual file system, there are special things you have to do to get it working01:47
BluesKajcody, system settings/keyboard&mouse01:48
felipe_it dont recognizes any pendrive that i connect01:48
codyi tried01:48
codyim installing a new one01:48
codyits extracted to my deskto01:48
codyp01:48
level1felipe_: what file format is it?  do you know?01:48
felipe_its...01:49
felipe_amm...01:49
felipe_ntfs01:49
felipe_but kubuntu reads my another partitions01:49
level1felipe_: ah, you have to install a package and do some other stuff01:49
level1!ntfs | felipe_01:49
ubotufelipe_: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse01:49
felipe_i can see them01:49
level1!ntfs-3g | felipe_01:49
ubotufelipe_: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions01:49
felipe_i cant see my pendrives or my ipod01:50
level1what do you mean you can't see them... where are you looking?01:50
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felipe_am looking at /dev/01:50
felipe_and...01:50
felipe_media:/01:51
level1well, kubuntu probably sees your drives and attempts to mount them, but if they are ntfs then it will not mount them unless you follow the instructions ubotu gave you01:52
bigleon1!anyone know how to find my current verison of kubuntu in my terminal?01:52
BluesKajmost pen drives are FAT32 , they shouldbe recognized01:52
level1bigleo01:52
level1oh, he left01:53
BluesKajlotta patience there :)01:53
level1lol, guess it wasn't that important01:53
felipe_ok01:54
felipe_but i write "sudo fdisk -l" should be listed my pendrive?01:54
level1BluesKaj: will they have ntfs by default in gutsy?  it seems like it would be ommision otherwise01:54
felipe_but if i write...*01:54
level1felipe_: yeah, it should01:54
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felipe_ok i'll do it01:54
level1felipe_: if it doesn't maybe there is a problem01:55
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BluesKajlevel1, dunno for sure but most USB sticks come preformatted in FAT32 to the best of my knowledge01:55
level1ntfs on usb stick isn't impossible01:55
felipe_level1: it doesn't show my pendrive D:01:56
BluesKajof course not , one can format to linux as well01:56
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felipe_what i can do?01:57
level1felipe_: really?  hmmm...  I don't think I know enough to solve that01:57
felipe_:(01:58
level1felipe_: could you "sudo lspci" and see if there is anything that looks like your pen drive?01:58
YendorHOW do I switch Knetworkmanager back to roaming mode please!?!?!01:58
felipe_ok01:58
level1Yendor: what do you mean roaming mode?01:58
YendorLevel1: I mean all I'm seeing on Knetworkmanager is Manual configuration!01:59
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level1oh, yeah I have that issue too01:59
YendorAnd I cannot join wi-fi like this...all this when I have my wifi card installed correctly01:59
Yendorso how do you connect?01:59
level1Yendor: did you install with the alternative install cd?01:59
level1Yendor: I use wlanassist02:00
Yendorno I used the normal edition02:00
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YendorOh damn I havent that installed :(02:00
level1Yendor: you can find it under KMenu>Internet if you have it installed02:00
level1catch 2202:00
YendorI dont have it installed :(02:01
level1well, you can manually install it by downloading the .deb and all its dependencies... I don't really know how to do that02:01
level1if you can get online by any method, you can use apt to install it02:01
Yendorwell... let try manual wired connection02:01
felipe_level1: i don't see any pendrive or ipod when i did sudo lspci02:02
level1felipe_: could you try lsusb?  it should be a similar output, but maybe theres some hope02:02
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felipe_i did it yerterday when i read a tutorial02:03
felipe_but02:03
felipe_it doesnt return any line02:03
felipe_it "hang" the system but witout stopping it02:04
felipe_i speak spanish sorry xD02:04
felipe_felipe@localhost:~$ sudo lsusb02:04
felipe_and it stays there02:04
zgmf-x20ahey guys quick question about registering.  when trying to setup the alternate account, do i have to create it with its own different password and THEN lnik it to my primary account???02:04
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felipe_level1: it just write a blank line and after it doesnt ask for another command :(02:05
zgmf-x20aanyone?02:05
level1hmmm... thats weird02:05
level1zgmf-x20a: do you mean adding a user?02:06
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zgmf-x20asort of.  i have already registered the one account, just trying to add the second, alternate02:06
zgmf-x20afollowing the walk thru02:06
Sannezgmf-x20a: do you mean here on freenode?02:06
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zgmf-x20aSanne: yup.  i have registered this account with pw succesfully, but having an issue with the alternate account part of the walthru.  so for the second account, do i first register that second account and then link to my primary account, is that what its saying?02:08
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Sannezgmf-x20a: do you follow this? http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration02:08
felipe_level1: and if i start kernel modules?02:08
felipe_what are the modules tu use usb mass?02:09
zgmf-x20aSanne: yes, im at step 4/502:09
Sannezgmf-x20a: I'm reading, trying to refresh my memory of what I did02:09
BluesKajwhich IRC client are you using zgmf-x20a02:09
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zgmf-x20aSanne: because basically, i change my nick thru the box to the left of this place im typing, and then try out that alternate register command and it doesnt work, it says i have to register??? so i am confused02:10
JuJuBeeShould I download and install netbeans from the sun site or use apt-get?02:10
zgmf-x20aBluesKaj: im using konversation02:10
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zgmf-x20aso my question is, do i first have to register that alternate nick with a diff password and then tie the wtwo together?02:11
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zgmf-x20awith the step 5 command?02:12
niciohhi02:12
Sannezgmf-x20a: I understand (and think I remember doing it that way) as you said, register the alternate nick with the same password.02:12
zgmf-x20aSanne: ooooo really, ok ill try that02:12
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bongfrogHere is a strange one I need some advice with...   I can install kubuntu on my dell just fine when it is connected to a normal monitor.   But when I move it to my LCD tv that should display in 1360 796 the fonts are so big it is unusable.02:13
niciowhy is konqueror so buggi?right now im updaten and i went to this webside http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/gamecube/list_x.html and the words are stick on together how do i regulate this?02:14
BluesKajzgmf-x20a, yes the instructions tell you to use your primary nick password02:14
bongfrogany ideas where I should look??   Google is not my friend on this one.....02:14
zgmf-x20a_ /msg nickserv link zgmf-x20a skill_002:14
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zgmf-x20a_lol.... crap02:15
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Azzconicio: Looks fine to me02:15
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Sannenicio: might not necessarily be konquis fault... there are many many websites with broken HTML, and that one you mentioned has a lot of errors.02:15
fungosanyone having problem to connect psp in kubuntu?02:15
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rdvonI'm trying to get my frets on fire game to rip all the songs off of guitar hero II, but I cant figure out where the cd is mounted... :\02:16
zgmf-x20aok, so now how do i change a password cause the silly thing doesnt work ... :@02:16
nicioSanne: i left xp to install kubuntu on explorer the site show good02:16
Azzcordvon: open konqueror and type in /media as the address, most likely it'll help ;)02:16
rdvonAzzco: frets on fire says it cant find it when I type in /media! I'm not stupid xD02:17
rdvonmedia/cdrom0 that is.02:17
rdvon:)02:17
Sannenicio: hmmm, looks quite usable to me in my Konqueror.02:17
nicioAzzco: u check it with konqueror?can u show me your settings for your fonts?02:17
JuJuBeeI just installed sun java 6, netbeans in repo's uses v. 5, is that a big deal?  apt-get is now trying to install sun java 502:18
nicioSanne: it might be my fonts that need to be change02:18
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BluesKajnicio, that page looks the same in FF and konq02:18
begertif i want to compile my own stuff, where should I have the source code?02:18
Azzconicio: The only thing I can think of is in setting appearance and I think that's only for the filemanager part not the web browsing02:18
nicioBluesKaj: are the words coupt up for u because i can hardly see some words?02:19
zgmf-x20ahow do i join more channels?02:19
zgmf-x20a#ubuntu02:19
begertfile -> join channel02:19
Sannezgmf-x20a: type /join #channel02:19
BluesKajno nicio . it looks fine02:20
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zgmf-x20aic ic, now that i am registered here, does that automatically apply to every channel i join???02:20
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Sannenicio: play with Settings->Configure Konqueror->TT Fonts02:20
nicioBluesKaj: i launch kotepe it keep login in and out why?is it because im putting linux up to date?02:20
Sannezgmf-x20a: yes, I think the registering applies to the whole freenode network02:21
nicioSanne: i was playing with the fonts it didnt change nada02:21
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Sannenicio: weird02:21
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Sannenicio: how about view->enlarge/shrink font?02:21
zgmf-x20aSanne: sweet.  ok, so one more thing, how do i perm add these different networks, so when i log in again they all come back up02:21
nicioSanne: it saparate a little but if i go any smaller i wont be able to see nada02:22
Sannezgmf-x20a: you mean the different channels on freenode?02:22
zgmf-x20aSanne: yes02:22
nicioSanne: view->enlarge/shrink font dont work02:22
Sannezgmf-x20a: (for Konversation) File->Server List->Edit, you can put channel names in the autojoin field02:23
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niciozgmf-x20a: i tink u add them in bookmarks if its memorize the channel u want02:23
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Sannenicio: works fine here... I suspect there's something else amiss with your settings, I'm running out of ideas unfortunately... anybody has a better idea for nicio?02:24
zgmf-x20aSanne: yup thats what im looking for autojoin.  sweeeeeeeeeet02:24
Sannezgmf-x20a: :)02:24
zgmf-x20awhere can i find a list of channels?02:25
rixxonI configure network manager for static nameservers but they change seemingly randomly. It's even more wierd because the router is set to use these nameservers too, and yet Kubuntu changes back to the ISP DNS all the time.02:25
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rixxonI don't want those nameservers, they are wrongly configured and suck badly.02:25
niciozgmf-x20a:  type /list02:26
Sannezgmf-x20a: there's a channel list command, but use it sparingly, it uses lots of bandwidth for the server. It's under window->channel list (F5 by default)02:26
zgmf-x20acool, thanks sanne02:26
Sanne:)02:27
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nicioSanne: what do i have to install to view videos on youtube with konqueror?02:28
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NickPresta!flash | nicio02:29
ubotunicio: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash02:29
Sannenicio: I don't knwo, sorry. I use a manually installed Firefox with a manually installed flash player...02:29
Sannethere yougo :)02:29
nicioSanne: player?in real player?02:30
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nicioSanne: i cant send no msg to none of my contacts in kotepe.how do i solve this?02:31
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kranshi:D02:32
kranshihi02:32
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kranshihola02:32
kranshiquienes aqui?02:33
BluesKaj!es | kranshi02:33
ubotukranshi: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.02:33
nicioSanne: i cant send no msg to none of my contacts in kotepe.how do i solve this? NickPresta02:33
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nicioBluesKaj: kotepe keep login in and out,why?02:34
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BluesKajdunno , nicio sorry :(02:35
Biovorenicio: using kopete for what?  aim?02:35
nicioBluesKaj: does it have anybody can help me?02:35
nicioBiovore: msn02:35
nicioBiovore: whats is aim?02:36
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Biovoremsn keeps changing there login scheme.. I don't know if msn works with kopete02:36
Biovorenicio: Aol Instant Messanger02:36
Biovorenicio: try amsn02:36
DragnslcrI haven't had any trouble with MSN in Kopete02:37
nicioBiovore: it does work with msn befor i reinstall kubuntu it was working02:37
DragnslcrNot that I use it much, but I can connect fine02:37
Biovorewell I don't use MSN..02:37
nicioBiovore: amsn is very ugl**02:37
Biovorewon't argue there02:37
BluesKajBiovore, msn works in kopete02:38
Biovoreok.. cool.. I wasn't sure it did or not..02:38
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niciolinux driven me crazy tonight q_p :(02:38
level1_nicio: did you try pidgin (aka gaim)?  I prefer kopete myself, but you might have more luck with pidgin02:39
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niciolevel1_: didnt like piding either to simple dont have enought to satify.i like kotepe kotepe does everythingxcept a little problem with the cam and to add my friends smileys02:41
fungosWhen I try to plug PSP:  [ 1489.620604]  usb 2-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4 [ 1501.154848]  usb 2-2: device not accepting address 4, error -11002:41
fungoswhat is that?02:41
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level1_yeah, the only thing i can't figure out with kopete is how to send and recive pictures through a direct connection... there just doesn't seem to be an interface for that, has it just not been implemented?02:42
niciofungos: i never had problem with my psp once plug in it shows as an ipod02:42
fungosthat error rerpeats 7 times with different address ... :S  is anyway to force it?02:43
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killermachI had some smbmounts on /media and now it's just hosed.. I can mount them somewhere else in the filesystem, what governs the /media folder? how do I unbreak this?02:44
level1_killermach: well, /media is really for external devices like usb drives...02:46
killermachok.. but now I need to remove the folders I made.. and I cannot even do an ls -al /media, it hangs02:47
level1_wow, thats weird02:47
level1_have you rebooted since then?02:47
niciolevel1_: my updates is about to finish can i just log ou an in insted of restartin to apply the updates?02:48
flaccidkillermach: hald does, but you can do what you want in there too02:48
nicioout*02:48
level1_nicio: you mean adept updater?02:48
nicioyes02:48
level1_nicio: you really don't have to do anything02:48
niciooh02:49
level1_nicio: but at somepoint, you may consider rebooting just to "flush the cache" if you will02:49
level1_some things like kernel updates need a reboot, but usually its not urgent02:49
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killermachflaccid: well it hosed my /etc/fstab smbmounts, worked last night and all last month, but now I have to mount them in /smbmounts folder02:50
flaccidkillermach: define hosed and show me the error when trying to mount them02:50
killermachI'm mounting filesystems from a centos5, I don't really need smb for that, does anyone have suggestions on a better way?02:51
fungosnice, psp working, just needed to do a "sudo rmmod ehci_hcd"02:51
flaccidkillermach: what is the fileystem type02:51
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killermachflaccid: I get this error->02:54
killermach22077: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)02:54
killermachSMB connection failed02:54
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purpleposeidonSo I was at school, yo, and I had connected home with NX, and one of my friends sits down and logs into the computer next to me. He notices what I'm doing, and connects to his computer with RDP.. and mine's like 5 times faster. >:-)02:55
flaccidkillermach: samba is misconfigured02:57
niciolevel1_: i have one hdd separat in 2 one is xp ntfs the next is data fat32.i install ntfs-config then run kdesu ntfs-config to enable rite etc it mount my xp automat but it didnt say nothing for the data or mount it.do i have to mount it in a way manualy?02:57
flaccidkillermach: is this share local or on the network?02:57
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killermachshare is on the network on the LAN02:58
flaccid!samba | killermach02:59
ubotukillermach: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT02:59
niciokillermach: 02:59
flaccidread that guide and learn samba. problem is your samba config.02:59
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niciokillermach: ^^03:00
level1_nicio: well, theres a command... It would be something like pmount -t ntfs-3g /dev/yourdevice03:00
level1_does that do anything03:00
killermachsamba works.. I moved the mount points from /media/mountpoint to /samba/mountpoint, then did mount -a and all mounts mounted03:00
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zgmf-x20a#mame03:01
niciolevel1_: error03:01
flaccidkillermach: then why did you paste me an access denied error03:01
killermachno windows on my network any more.. so samba was there for that.. but if there is a better way to setup with nfs or the like maybe I should use it instead03:01
level1_nicio: what error?03:01
niciolevel1_: i'll do it from system settings03:02
flaccidkillermach: so does samba work or not...03:02
flaccidno need to use nfs03:02
level1_what was the error?!?03:02
killermachsamba works. all mounts are mounted , but not in /media03:02
killermach /media is broken/hosed/bjorked03:02
flaccidkillermach: i don't think you are listening at all.03:02
killermachyou asked is samba working.. samba is on the remote machine and works03:03
flaccidsamba client and samba server..03:03
killermachthis local machine can even mount smbfs shares from that remote machine03:03
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zgmf-x20a#amarok03:03
flaccidkillermach: so you have no problem?03:03
niciolevel1_: pmount -t ntfs-3g /dev/yourdevice03:03
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flaccidi think i give up on users like this03:04
level1_nicio: but what was the error?!?03:04
killermachthey both work fine, I just cannot put shares in /media which is where they have been for the last few months03:04
niciolevel1_: sorry Error: device /dev/yourdevice does not exist03:04
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johnficcawhat is a good open source driver for the ATI Radeon Mobility X1400?03:04
flaccidkillermach: well you can put shares in media and you gave me an access denied to share error so. you can either believe me and the error or believe yourself..03:04
niciolevel1_: dos dont ctrl+c lol03:04
level1_nicio: I didn't mean "yourdevice" literally, I mean't the name of you device03:04
johnficcamy friend is having a hard time getting it to work03:04
flaccidkillermach: /mnt is the more appropriate place to mount smb anyway03:05
level1_johnficca: vesa03:05
BluesKajmy samba works well when i connect to my wifes pc ..I can read/write to the shared files there but when i try to use samba from her pc to read/write on the linux pc , the permissions are impossible to setup .03:05
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johnficcalevel1_: doesn't work for beyle03:05
level1_johnficca: I have that exact card, and I find I only have two options: vesa and fglrx03:05
johnficcalevel1_: ok03:05
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level1_johnficca: there is no single driver in the world that will run beryl on that card that is also open source03:05
codyI just rebooted my comp and now its a bit laggy03:05
codyany ideas03:05
level1_johnficca: sorry03:05
johnficcalevel1_: does the fglrx work good for you03:05
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level1_johnficca: no, I don't use03:06
level1_johnficca: I have used it, but it caused too many issues03:06
killermachflaccid: thanks /mnt is is then03:06
level1_johnficca: you might be able to get nv to work (I can't) but that won't give you beryl or compiz03:07
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niciolevel1_: adept crash on me while installing updates at 60% what should i do?03:07
flaccidkillermach: i would advise putting the share in fstab correctly...03:07
zgmf-x20a!webcam03:07
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras03:07
level1_johnficca: btw, most people are using compiz fusion now03:07
level1_nicio: hmmm... well, I don't know, thats not good, lol... how much disk space do you have?03:07
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niciolevel1_: by watch the detail it look like it still running the install but it has a msg in frot of it03:08
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level1_whats the error?03:08
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niciolevel1_: i have enought disk space 20gigs03:09
level1_whats the error?03:09
johnficcalevel1_: nv is for nvidia cards no?03:09
niciolevel1_: its a new install im doing03:09
level1_john03:09
zgmf-x20ahmm... anyone a webcam expert by any chance?  just wondering if my fusion would be similar to any other webcams and could install those drivers and it would then work03:10
level1_johnficca: sorry, my mistake03:10
johnficcalevel1_: its ok03:10
level1_johnficca: I mean radeon or ati... I'm not sure if they're different03:10
level1_johnficca: I couldn't get those to work on my card in my lappy, but you might have more luck03:10
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level1_johnficca: you might be in luck... they're coming out with a new driver called r500 avivo, which will work on our cards, but they are not done yet... also, amd annouced they would release some of the specs just a few days ago, so here's hoping03:12
level1_(fingers crossed)03:13
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niciolevel1_: whats the poin in installin a new kernel?03:16
level1_nicio: new things are always better03:17
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niciolevel1_: like vista to xp?03:17
niciolol*03:17
level1_nicio: seriously though, new kernels are usually faster and more reliable, and have better features03:17
level1_more hardware support03:18
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level1_nicio: oh, you noticed I was sarcastic03:18
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tekstacy'lo all03:18
level1_hi03:18
niciohey03:18
tekstacyIs there a utility to see how my physical memory is set up? ie: how many sticks, speed, etc..03:19
level1_ideally, they wouldn't write new things if they weren't "better" in some way, but you know how that works03:19
tekstacyI want to upgrade, but don't know if I have 1 gb stick, or 2 halves03:20
NickPrestatekstacy, why not open up the case? If you're careful, you won't damage anything...03:20
level1_tekstacy: if you use "free" it will tell you how much usuable ram you have03:20
level1_tekstacy: you ram is probably evenly destributed around your sticks, so each stick has the same amount, so you just devide03:21
tekstacyI guess I'll have to crack it, but it's a real pia,03:21
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BluesKajtekstacy, dunno if this meets your requirements but htop gives a list of running processes including memory03:21
level1_hey, its like top, but with colors!03:22
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level1_BluesKaj: why is it possible for me to have many programs running at the same time which collectively use more than 100% cpu?03:23
tekstacyhey, thanks. That was cool. Didn't help, but I learned something    :)03:23
niciolevel1_: what is "free"?03:24
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level1_nicio: is a program that tells you how much memory is "free" and some other stuff03:24
niciolevel1_: so? sudo apt-get install free?03:25
level1_if you want03:25
level1_it should be included, I don't think you ineed to install it03:25
BluesKajlevel1_, good question ... cpu overhead capacity maybe ?03:25
level1_BluesKaj: is it possible, since I have a quadcore, that the real capacity of my cpu is not 100% but 400%?03:26
niciolevel1_: the reson i reinstall linux because everytime i download a anime from a website it slows down my pc a lot03:26
tekstacyI had to install htop, but it was painless03:26
BluesKajfree -m03:26
level1_nicio: are you filling up you hard drive?03:26
niciolevel1_: and sometimes it freeze after a while03:26
level1_nicio: because otherwise I don't believe that downloading anime is the source of the problem03:27
niciolevel1_: no it had only 28%use03:27
level1_yeah, not the problem03:27
niciolevel1_: so its linux problem then?03:27
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level1_your doing something else that causing it... what, is a mystery03:27
level1_well, of course its a linux problem03:28
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Biovorenicio: I watch anime all the time on linux..  you pulling over a wifi connection?03:28
niciolevel1_: lol i try closin everything befor i download it still was slowin down the pc it didnt stop buggin untill i log out an in03:28
level1_oh, you mean the download itself... you must have a weird connection03:29
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nicioBiovore: i got wifi but why hurt my head when i can just plug the router on the pc?03:29
BluesKajlevel1_, perhaps cpu-utils isn't able to read quad core03:29
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nicioBluesKaj: quad core???03:29
tekstacyIs k able to monitor temp and control fans as good as xp?03:30
Fusion^hi. how do i restart just my kde panel?03:30
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level1_BluesKaj: where can I find statistic on my cpu temp?03:30
niciopause i try to finish a race in mario kart03:30
level1_tekstacy: its nice... probably a bit unnessary, but its plenty fast and works just fine03:30
tekstacyit it like the C2, w/ multiple cores on one cache?03:31
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level1_tekstacy: well, I'm told intel just sandwiched (literally) two core 2 duos on top of eachother03:32
BluesKajlevel1_, theres some cpu monitor tools available but I've never bothered , so i dunno the appnames03:32
level1_tekstacy: as you might expect, thats causes some thermal issues, but I haven't had a problem03:32
tekstacytry "cpu temp" in Adept, I saw something there last night, but forgot the name03:32
level1_maybe I'm better off not know that my cpu is topping 7003:32
nicioi got one name everest on xp i maybe can work on linux with wine :p lol03:32
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nicioit tells u everything even the websites where to update your hardware etc03:33
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NickPrestatekstacy, I like using 'sensors' to mointor my voltage, fan speed and temp.03:34
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tekstacyIf I took a windows system hdd and pluged it in as an external hdd, would k shit itself?03:35
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tekstacyI think that may be what I was looking at03:35
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tekstacyI was thinking of setting up a spare drive with xp, just in case I ever need it, but using it as an external drive when I don't.03:37
NickPresta!language | tekstacy03:37
ubotutekstacy: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.03:37
niciotekstacy: no it wont03:37
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NickPrestaand it should be fine, provided you're using FAT or some ntfs driver03:37
tekstacy:(   sorry03:37
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tekstacyAnyone here try a virtual xp setup?03:39
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hydrogenyes03:39
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tekstacydoes it work well?, stable, practical?03:40
niciotekstacy: wat is it?03:40
tekstacyLike VirtualPC Or Virtual Box, to make a virtual XP system within linux03:41
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hydrogentekstacy: yea03:41
tekstacywhat do you use for virtual?03:42
Fusion^what's the command line for restarting the kde panel/kicker? thanks03:42
hydrogenvirtualbox03:42
tekstacycool, I will try it tonight03:43
nicioFusion^: what is the panel/kicker03:43
nicio?03:43
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flaccidthe command is kicker. kicker is the main panel03:44
hydrogenFusion^: dcop kicker kicker restart03:44
inaety_how could i set up a remote login so i could remote into from just a website (no software needed) on a windows computer03:44
nicioim confus?03:44
Fusion^hydrogen: thanks03:44
hydrogeninaety_: you really couldn't..03:45
hydrogenhowever03:45
hydrogenputty is really lightweight03:45
hydrogenand allows you to ssh in from windows03:45
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inaety_hydrogen: thanks ill look into it03:46
Fusion^hydrogen: my other systray icons disappeared when i did dcop kicker kicker restart03:46
flaccidjust goto alt+f2 and run kicker03:47
flaccidif it crashes again, you have a problem03:47
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tekstacyhydrogen, any advice before I try this?03:49
hydrogennope03:50
hydrogenjust install virtualbox03:50
hydrogenand put your cd in03:50
hydrogenand start it03:50
tekstacyI guess it will take a few hours?03:50
hydrogennot really03:51
hydrogenit only took me like 30 minutes to install03:51
hydrogenbut my computers a beast03:51
tekstacy:)   I'm on a laptop03:51
tekstacyBut it's a beast for a laptop03:51
hydrogenme too03:52
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inaety_hydrogen: how would i set it up on my ubuntu computer to have it "be open for remoting"03:52
hydrogeninaety_: do you mean a remote desktop or just remote access to the console?03:53
tekstacyI've only been using linux a couple weeks, I'm still amazed at it's common-sense simplicity mixed with maddening complexity, makes me feel like a kid with these things again03:53
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inaety_hydrogen: remote desktop so i can look at X and stuff03:53
hatter_everytime i reboot my kubuntu box, the desktop icons are bundled on top of each other in the corner03:53
hydrogeninaety_: no clue :)03:53
hydrogeninaety_: I've never had a need to do it so I'm not sure03:53
inaety_hydrogen: really just fun and so i can go on it from school...03:54
inaety_impress my teacher03:54
hydrogenyea03:55
hydrogenI'm not sure03:55
hydrogensomeone else should know03:55
hydrogen!rdc03:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rdc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:55
hydrogen!rdcp03:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rdcp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:55
hydrogen!remote03:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about remote - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:55
niciohatter_: try placin all good then log out then restart it work for me hope it would for u03:55
hydrogenI think you want to use something called krdc03:55
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nicio!flood | hydrogen03:55
ubotuhydrogen: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:55
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hydrogenerr03:56
hatter_nicio, thats the thing, on reboot, the all move to corner on top of each other03:56
hydrogenthats not really that helpful....03:56
hydrogennicio: unless you want me to type answers to everyones question and pastebin them03:56
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niciohatter_: have u try log out befor rebooting03:56
hydrogenyou probably wanted...03:56
hydrogen!enter03:56
ubotuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!03:56
hydrogenbut thats a silly rule03:56
hatter_nicio, i see, i will try this03:56
EightiesKif i update from dapper to feisty will i need to reinstall all my drivers and what not?03:57
hatter_i think rebooting logs out first though ?03:57
niciohydrogen: i dont understand that rule about enter03:57
soulrider!mp303:57
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:57
hitmanWillynicio: don't03:57
hitmanWillyuse03:57
hitmanWillyenter03:57
hitmanWillyas03:57
EightiesKif i update from dapper to feisty will i need to reinstall all my drivers and what not?03:57
hitmanWillypunctuation :)03:57
niciohatter_: log out is log out reboot is reboot(restart)03:57
killermachstill cannot manage to delete /media/sharedirectories03:57
hitmanWillynicio, it gets really annoying03:58
evan__hi all, total KDE noob here. i looked at kubuntu forums and couldnt really find the info i need. what is the synaptic equivilant on KDE? i need the repos to install third party support. any straight up answers would help or just point me to some good late night reading03:58
BluesKajEightiesK, kinda difficult to update directly to feisty from dapper ...update to edgy first, then from edgy to feisty..and yes you wil need to upgrade some hardware drivers03:59
Azzcoevan__: adept03:59
hitmanWillyevan__, you can either install synaptic itself, or use adept03:59
niciohitmanWilly: i still dont understand im from a french country.what do u mean by puntuation?u mean when i want to tell someone something i have to press send insted of pressing enter?03:59
evan__well i am fairly familar with GNOME, but adept better?04:00
hitmanWillynicio, don't split up messages between lines04:00
killermachls04:00
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hitmanWillynicio, for example, use a . instead of starting a new line04:00
hydrogen!fr | nicio04:00
ubotunicio: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.04:00
hydrogenyou may find that channel nicer as well04:00
hydrogenthough at 2 in the morning its probably pretty dead04:00
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hitmanWillyevan__, that depends, personally i use the cmd line04:02
niciohydrogen: no fr its dead down there q_p04:02
niciohydrogen: it's allways dead04:03
evan__hitmanwilly: ok, is there a simialr easyubuntu for mutlimedia codecs?04:03
hitmanWillyevan__, look into medibuntu04:03
evan__ok04:04
hitmanWilly!medibuntu | evan04:04
ubotuevan: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org04:04
evan__tyvm04:04
hitmanWillyevan__, its just a set of repos that can be included in any *buntu variant04:04
Jucato!ubuntustudio04:04
ubotuUbuntuStudio is a site for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best parts of Audio/Graphical/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories, and extra! Available at http://ubuntustudio.tv Or visit #ubuntustudio.04:04
Jucatohm... nvm04:04
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Fusion^i installed compiz fusion, how would i know if im on xgl or aiglx?04:07
tekstacyBye all, thanks for the help04:08
niciowo can tell ma what to install for firefox to see flash?04:09
niciowa*04:09
hydrogennsplugin04:09
hydrogenI believe04:09
Jucatonicio: flashplugin-nonfree04:09
hydrogen!info nsplugin04:09
ubotuPackage nsplugin does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas04:09
hydrogenor that04:09
Jucato:)04:09
hydrogensounds a bit more likely04:09
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hydrogenI think I'll go get food.04:09
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Jucatowhat's for lunch/dinner? :)04:09
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aliriohello i have  a question04:10
Jucato!ask04:10
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:10
hydrogenits for midnight snack04:10
hydrogenand I'm not sure04:10
Jucatooh midnight hehe :)04:10
aliriois there small display in amarok as windows media player 10 or 1104:10
alirio???04:10
hydrogenyea04:10
hydrogenbut its ugly04:11
hydrogenand won't be there in 2.004:11
aliriowhy?04:11
niciohydrogen: how can they say nsplugin dont exist and im seing it.but its install allready04:11
niciononfree too04:11
hydrogennicio: install flashplugin-nonfree04:11
Jucatoalirio: see for yourself: Settings -> Show Player Window04:11
niciohydrogen:  done04:11
hitmanWillynicio, its a way to use firefox/mozilla plugins in konq04:11
Jucatonicio: by nonfree it doesn't mean you have to pay for it04:11
hydrogenalirio: because no one has maintained it in Amarok for a long time...04:11
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niciolol ok04:11
aliriommmm, but it isn't in amarok yet???04:12
Jucatononfree = not free/open source software04:12
hydrogenalirio: no, its there04:12
Jucato[10:11]  <Jucato> alirio: see for yourself: Settings -> Show Player Window04:12
aliriook04:12
hydrogenyou may be happier with kirocker though04:13
alirioand?04:13
hydrogenits a really kool kicker app04:13
niciohydrogen: kirocker???04:13
hydrogenhttp://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=5286904:13
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scripI've  installed libqt4 and libqt4-dev but my config script is still broken, says it can't find the headers and libraries04:15
Jucatoscrip: maybe it needs Qt3 and not Qt4?04:15
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niciohydrogen: is kirocker in adept?04:16
hydrogendoesn't seem to be04:16
Jucatonope04:16
Biovorescrip: apt-get install kde-devel04:16
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Jucatoscrip: what are you trying to compile?04:17
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JucatoBiovore: might be a tad too much... most of the time kdelibs4-dev does it04:17
evan__is a restart required after install of mediabuntu, so i know if things worked ok04:17
Jucatoum.. no...04:18
hitmanWillyiirc, the newer qt4 libs can emulate qt304:18
evan__hmm, my restricted files no play04:18
JucatohitmanWilly: not if the program depends on Qt 304:18
hitmanWillywell, yeah, but compiling should work04:18
Jucatoevan__: you might need to restart the app that tries to play it04:18
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JucatohitmanWilly: really? not from my experience. but I can't experience everything04:18
hitmanWillyevan__, what did you do exactly, just add the repos?04:19
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Jucatobesides the fact that Qt4 and Qt3 are source and binary incompatible04:19
Jucatobut there's that package to emulate it if that's what you mean.04:19
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hitmanWillyJucato, well, im not an expert or anything, plus about the only time I compile anything is on my gentoo box04:19
Jucatoheh with Gentoo you don't need -dev packages :P04:19
hitmanWillynope, they're ALL dev pkgs :)04:20
evan__followed instructioins here http://www.medibuntu.org/repository.php04:20
niciohydrogen: how do i instaall kirocker?04:20
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hitmanWillyactually, gentoo lets you compile qt4 with qt3 support, so  maybe it symlinks some libs around, not really sure04:20
Jucato!info libqt4-qt3support04:21
ubotulibqt4-qt3support: Qt 3 compatibility library for Qt 4. In component main, is optional. Version 4.2.3-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 1242 kB, installed size 3176 kB04:21
hydrogenits not the same thing04:22
hitmanWillyok, guess that's how buntu does it :)04:22
Jucatobut at the same time, iirc it's not really recommended to use that04:22
hydrogenand having qt3support in qt4 does not allow you to compile qt3 programs04:22
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hydrogenthere are classes that were deprecated in qt4 (but still exist) soley to help applications that are porting from qt3 to qt404:22
Jucatohydrogen to the rescue :)04:22
hydrogenThey are all in qt3support04:22
hitmanWillywell, im not really a qt expert either :)04:22
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AnthraXhello04:23
hydrogenhi04:23
AnthraXi want some help regarding my RAM usage :/04:23
AnthraXSysinfo for 'Underground': Linux 2.6.20-16-generic running KDE 3.5.7, CPU: Intel(R)Core2CPUT7200@2.00GHz at 2000 MHz (3994 bogomips), , RAM: 709/1010MB, 149 proc's, 43.9min up04:23
hydrogenwhat about it?04:24
jmichaelxi just moved, and am setting my network back up, however, my laptop does not want to let go of the old info (IP addy, etc). i can connect to my network if i use tools like wlassistant. can anyone tell me how to change the setings?04:24
AnthraX709 MB RAM is being used?04:24
Jucato!ram04:24
ubotuA quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html04:24
hydrogenlinux caches a whole bunch of stuff04:24
hydrogenso that its quickly accessible04:24
hydrogenthis ram is still usable however if something needs it04:24
hydrogenSysinfo for 'Yes': Linux 2.6.22-11-generic running KDE 3.5.7, CPU: Intel(R) Core 2 CPU         T7200  @ 2.00GHz at 2000 MHz (3990 bogomips), HD: 65/130GB, RAM: 1357/2026MB, 151 proc's, 4.46h up04:24
hydrogenI'm not really using over a gig of memory doing nothing04:24
hydrogen:)04:24
JucatoLinux makes smart use of that RAM you paid for to make things work faster04:25
AnthraX;P04:25
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AnthraXwell yea not that really causes any trouble or something04:25
AnthraXi just wanted to know why04:25
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Jucatomight want to check that first link above04:25
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evan__hitmanwilly: i followed the 2 commands here  http://www.medibuntu.org/repository.php04:26
hydrogenjust don't worry unless you are digging into swap :)04:26
AnthraX:)04:27
AnthraXand another thing04:27
AnthraXwhy 156 proc's?04:27
hitmanWillyevan__, ok, run this in a konsole, sudo apt-get update04:27
JucatoSysinfo for 'Suzaku': Linux 2.6.22-11-generic running KDE 3.5.7, CPU: AMD Sempron 2200+ at 1500 MHz (3003 bogomips), HD: 22/49GB, RAM: 469/503MB, 136 proc's, 1.50h up04:28
Jucatoproc's = processes04:28
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AnthraXyea04:29
AnthraXwhy so many proc's ?04:29
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AnthraXok04:30
AnthraXanother question04:30
jmichaelxSysinfo for 'debian': Linux 2.6.21-2-686 running KDE 3.5.7, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)4CPU1700MHz at 1694 MHz (3393 bogomips), , RAM: 400/504MB, 102 proc's, 4.51h up04:31
hydrogenthats a boring sysinfo.04:31
hydrogenerr04:31
JucatoAnthraX: you can check the different processes running by pressing Ctrl+Esc04:31
hydrogena boring computer name04:31
jmichaelx:-D04:31
hitmanWillyevan__, once you've done that, it will probably want you to upgrade your system...that should download the restricted format compatible versions of all the apps on your system04:32
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hydrogenerr04:32
Jucatoevan__: what type of media are you trying to play btw?04:32
hydrogensuggesting that people use the mediabuntu repository is usually a bad idea04:32
hydrogenif I recall04:32
hitmanWillyhydrogen, nah, medibuntu's fine, its automatix you've gotta watch out for04:32
evan__eveything, this is a brand new install. mp3 spefically RIGHT now tho04:32
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hydrogenevan__: for what application?04:33
Jucatoevan__: that's too simple :) just install "libxine-extracodecs"04:33
hokatichenciIs there any way to disable/uninstall/purge my system from the evil avahi daemon04:33
Jucatofresh install, I presume amarok or kaffeine :)04:33
hitmanWillyevan__, for amarok, libxine-extracodecs should do it04:33
linuxmcehey just wondering if this has synaptic04:33
hitmanWillyevan__, same for kaff04:33
hokatichenciI googled a bit but the config change didn't disable it04:33
jmichaelxi hmaybe this will all change, but i have never had an issue with automatix, and have used it a lot since it first came out04:33
evan__hitmanwilly: http://pastebin.ca/69120704:33
hitmanWillylinuxmce, not by default, but you can install it04:33
AnthraXi first installed Ubuntu because i couldn't install Kubuntu DVD when i  booted.So i installed kde .Now when I reboot it goes all with Kubuntu but after i enter my username & password it loads as Ubuntu [Nautilus]  I runned the alt+f2 => kcontrol fixed the splash but again nothing.. any clue what else shall i do|?04:33
hydrogenAnthraX: are you in kde or gnome after the splash comes?04:34
hokatichenciAnthraX, did you select the kde session?04:34
JucatoAnthraX: when you get to the login screen, there's a menu there, check that you're logging into a KDE session04:34
linuxmcehow would i go about installing it?04:34
Jucato!adept | linuxmce04:34
ubotulinuxmce: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto04:34
AnthraXkde04:34
AnthraXhydrogen:  kde04:35
Jucatoif you don't want to use Adept, just install Synaptic from Adept or "sudo apt-get install synaptic"04:35
hitmanWillyevan__, ok, now if you run sudo apt-get upgrade, it should update the apps on your system04:35
jmichaelxi just moved, and am setting my network back up, however, my laptop does not want to let go of the old info (IP addy, etc). i can connect to my network if i use tools like wlassistant. can anyone tell me how to change the setings?04:35
hokatichenciAnybody? This avahi-daemon is driving me mad and I'd hate to have to write a script to kill it everytime I boot the system.04:35
evan__hitmanwilly: sudo apt-get upgrade......0 0 0 004:35
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evan__hitmanwilly: http://pastebin.ca/69121204:37
BluesKajhmm AnthraX , check synaptic for kubuntu-desktop...if it isn't installed that could be the prob04:37
hitmanWillyevan__, ok, you need to enable the universe and multiverse repos04:38
hitmanWilly!multiverse04:38
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:38
AnthraXBluesKaj , it's installed..04:39
hitmanWillyevan__, check that link for info on how to enable them04:39
AnthraXhm i just found out that Kubuntu-artwork isn't installed04:39
linuxmceok i couldnt find adept or synaptic so i tried that install synaptic and it is there nw thanks04:40
Jucatolinuxmce: Adept is in K Menu -> System -> Adept Manager04:40
Jucatolinuxmce: or Add/Remove Programs right in the K Menu04:40
Jucatohokatichenci: System Settings -> Advanced tab -> System Services04:41
Jucatoyou can configure whether avahi-daemon will start at boot or not from there04:41
linuxmceok none of thats there but it is working now as synaptic is installed04:41
hokatichenciJucato, it's not setup there, it still starts04:42
hokatichenciI even have it set to 0 in /etc/default/avahi-daemon04:42
Jucatohokatichenci: it's not setup there? what do you mean?04:42
hokatichenciIt messes with my network really, really badly and it's driving me nuts04:42
hokatichenciJucato, not set to start by default in all runlevels04:42
Jucatostrange...04:43
hokatichenciYeah, exactly04:43
hokatichenciI'll  have to do some deep inspection later to figure out whats going on, gotta run for now :-\04:44
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Aloneahow do you get knetworkmanager into the "running" state?04:51
flaccidpray04:52
Aloneai am confused. it says its not running...I used to have it on here but took it off due to problems and wanted to try it again since i now have WPA04:53
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Aloneai don't see anything anywhere though about WPA or anything to connect to a network...04:54
flaccidyou right click and it should show available networks to which you can click and it will ask you to enter passphrase04:55
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Aloneaok, I right click and it says "KNetworkManager is not running" followed by manual configuration and help04:55
rixxonAlonea: sure you don't mean networkmanager (without the prefixing "K")?04:56
AloneaI am sure.04:56
Aloneaoh!04:57
rixxon:)04:57
AloneaI see what you mean04:57
Aloneathe program is K, but it says networkmanager is not running.04:57
rixxonnetworkmanager is the daemon (knetworkmanager is the frontend)04:57
Aloneai have had a baaad two weeks, so bear with me.04:57
flaccidwell all i can say is that there are still numerous problems with networkmanager and i don't see why its needed in the first place. a frontend to /etc/network/interfaces and wpasupplicant would be fine ...04:57
BluesKajhmm , strange thing just happened ...thunderbird doesn't launch FF when a URL is clicked on with an email message ...any suggestions ?04:58
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evan__hitmanwilly: i enabled repos via link. running adept via command i see lots of fails after fetch updates and still cannot install libxine-extracodecs, fails on that too04:58
flaccidAlonea: http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=networkmanager+is+not+running+knetworkmanager&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 lots to read..04:58
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Aloneafigures...I mean, wireless assistant now sorta has wpa support, but 75% of the time it won't connect04:59
hitmanWillyevan__, sudo apt-get update in konsole, then pastebin the output please04:59
flaccidAlonea: yeah imo linux/ubuntu still has far to go04:59
flaccidif you uninstall networkmanager, network fails on boot. its quite ridiculous.05:00
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hitmanWillyflaccid, that's just ubuntu, tho05:00
evan__hitmanwilly: http://pastebin.ca/69123405:01
flaccidhitmanWilly: yeah but networkmanager is not close to being suffice imo in general - any distro05:01
hitmanWillyevan__, looks like it updated fine, now try sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs05:01
AloneaI have a question, when I connect my ethernet cable, why do I have to completely restart my computer or have it already plugged in before it boots? Why doesn't it just connect when I plug it in?05:02
hitmanWillyflaccid, yeah, well, definately agree with you on that05:02
flaccidAlonea: probably because of networkmanager heh05:02
flaccidyou can check the logs to see what happens05:03
Aloneaits always done this, even when I didn't have it at all05:03
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flaccidits called ubuntu..05:03
evan__hitmanwilly: http://pastebin.ca/69123905:03
AloneaI just now put it back on. pidgin (when it was still gaim) isn't very compatible with networkmanager (more or the less the other way around actually) so I got rid of it05:04
evan__hitmanwilly: with music loaded in amarok it just runs through playlist and says playlist finished05:04
hitmanWillyevan__, what version are you running?05:04
flaccidi've had basic network config issues with every release since and including dapper that i've tried. really shows that its far off a desktop os little lone a server os.05:04
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hitmanWillyevan__, of kubuntu?05:04
evan__hitmanwilly: 6.0605:04
flaccidgaim has nothing to do with network05:04
flaccid!find libmad005:04
ubotuFound: libmad0, libmad0-dev05:04
hitmanWillyevan__, ok, there may be an issue there05:04
flaccid!info libmad005:04
ubotulibmad0: MPEG audio decoder library. In component main, is optional. Version 0.15.1b-2.1 (feisty), package size 75 kB, installed size 160 kB05:04
nicioberyl is in french how do i fix it to be in english?05:05
Aloneaumm, the article I read said something about network manager would tell it that I was not connected to the internet and as soon as I got rid of it, problem fixed.05:05
flaccid!info libxine-extracodecs05:05
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, transitional package. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.4-2ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 38 kB, installed size 68 kB05:05
flaccidyou don't need medibuntu repos, just use multiverse...05:05
evan__hitmanwilly: so upgrade to fiesty05:05
flaccidAlonea: right, that makes it even worse o)05:05
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Aloneaflaccid: yup...its a lying sob05:06
hitmanWillyevan__, actually, you may want to try vlc, that should work on dapper05:06
flaccidAlonea: it shouldn't even work like that.05:06
evan__hitmanwilly: well if its that old i might as well upgrade to fiesty05:06
hitmanWillyevan__, you said this was a fresh install, right?05:07
evan__hitmanwilly: vlc has shitton dependencies05:07
jmichaelxis there a config file where network info is stored? if so, could someone give me the path?05:07
evan__yup, from a disk i got from the ubuntu people05:07
flaccidjmichaelx: /etc/network/interfaces05:07
Aloneaflaccid: dunno. more than one place said it was a common problem in network manager. dunno if the later versions of pidgin have managed to get around that or no05:07
hitmanWillyevan__, ok, id say just install feisty then, clean05:08
jmichaelxflaccid: ty05:08
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hitmanWillyevan__, its easier than dealing with backports, in my opinion05:08
evan__hitmanwilly: this requires makin a cd yes05:08
hitmanWillyevan__, yup05:08
evan__hitmanwilly: not possiable via konsole, i did that in gnome once05:08
hitmanWillyevan__, you could use k3b05:09
evan__hitmanwilly: i mean upgrade to fiesty via konsole05:09
hitmanWillyevan__, a massive waste of time, in your case, since you need to go to edgy first05:09
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hitmanWillyevan__, i'd say just do a fresh install, less chance of breakage05:10
evan__hitmanwilly: will a fresh install w/ fiesty cd allow me to pick WM?05:10
hitmanWillyevan__, which one do you want?05:10
evan__KDE05:10
flaccidAlonea: they should never talk basically - its bad practice05:10
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hitmanWillyevan__, go to kubuntu.org, that installs kde05:11
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flaccidAlonea: unless you make gaim depend on networkmanager and that would be even stupider05:11
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hitmanWillyevan__, kubuntu, ubuntu, xubuntu are all the same, just use different WM's by default05:11
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Aloneaflaccid: well, its moot when I kill networkmanager. ^__^05:12
Jucatos/different WM's/different DE's, apps, configurations, etc/05:12
hitmanWillyevan__, ubuntu=gnome, kubuntu=kde, xubuntu=xfce05:12
Aloneaor use hard line instead of wifi.05:12
evan__hitmanwilly: yea, i understand that part05:12
hitmanWillyevan__, but you can change after install if you want as well05:12
evan__hitmanwilly: its all the same base, just different looks05:13
Aloneathough I use wifi at school and pidgin didn't have any problems when network-manager was on.05:13
hitmanWillyevan__, different apps on default install05:13
evan__hitmanwilly: this makes sense because dapper is actually pretty old05:13
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AloneaI think it was just that the old version of gaim was set up really weird. and it was definitely a really old version of gaim.05:14
hitmanWillyevan__, it's more geared towards business apps and servers, not personal desktops05:14
evan__hitmanwilly: dapper?05:14
hitmanWillyevan__, yes, its a long term support version05:15
hitmanWilly!lts | evan__05:15
ubotuevan__: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.05:15
hitmanWillyevan__, but for standard desktop/laptop stuff, i reccomend the newer versions05:15
evan__hitmanwilly: did not know that, orig got ubuntu cd from mag and was first *nix to work on my lappy straight away. tried mandriva, redhat05:16
hitmanWillyevan__, heh, that's because it installs drivers for just about everything...05:17
evan__hitmanwilly: i dunno, i might stay with GNOME, was gogin to kde cause i thought my skills where uprading but apparently not05:17
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hitmanWillyevan__, and its installer is better at figuring out hw than other distros05:17
niciohitmanWilly: how do i put google to be my default page when firefow launch?05:18
hitmanWillyevan__, you can have both on the same machine05:18
evan__yea, i did that before i had to da fresh install05:18
evan__ninco: edit>pref>select home page05:19
hitmanWillynicio, edit -> preferences -> main05:19
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Rictooif I do apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop, and then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop to reinstall kde, that won't like remember my home folder, right?05:20
Rictooremove*05:20
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hitmanWillyRictoo, actually, that by itself won't do anything05:21
aliriohola05:21
aliriohello05:21
RictoohitmanWilly: wut05:21
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hitmanWillyRictoo, what are you trying to do?05:21
Rictooreinstall kde05:21
evan__hitmanwilly: after i get fiesty up and runnin i still need to follow the directions on medibuntu correct05:22
Rictooand everything with it, while I'm at it :p05:22
niciohitmanWilly: and for konqueror?05:22
hitmanWillyevan__, actually, not for mp305:22
evan__nicio: settings>config konk05:23
hitmanWillyevan__, just install libxine-extracodecs, universe and multiverse are enabled by default on feisty05:23
hitmanWillyRictoo, do you just want to reset the defaults?05:23
evan__hitmanwilly: and that will do codecs for DVD etc?05:23
Rictoonaa, there's some stuff seriously screwed05:23
Rictooand I think it's better if I just start all over :p05:24
hitmanWillyevan__, no, dvd is a little more complex :)\05:24
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evan__hitmanwilly: i will cross that bridge when i come to it05:24
evan__hitmanwilly: what about mpg, avi...05:24
intelikeyhmmm are some of the freenode servers having problems ?05:24
hitmanWillyRictoo, before you do that, go into a konsole and try this rm -rf ~/.kde05:24
hitmanWillyRictoo, then restart kde05:25
intelikeycouldn't connect through the server i normally use05:25
Rictoook05:25
Rictoobbl then05:25
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flaccidhow do you purge a package with dpkg using apt-get remove --purge is not working on a package05:25
hitmanWillyevan__, most of those are supported natively05:25
niciohitmanWilly: where exactly?05:25
Jucatoflaccid: dpkg -P I think05:25
niciostp05:25
evan__hitmanwilly: coo,....u a multitaskin mofo itellyawhat05:25
hitmanWillyevan__, for ones that aren't, libxine-extracodecs takes care of it05:25
intelikeyflaccid -P --force-all packagename05:25
hitmanWillyevan__, lots of practice :)05:25
Jucatooh intelikey's here... no need for me to be here then :)05:26
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flaccidsweet that worked nice05:26
evan__hitmanwilly: how many packets does it take to send a 6pack05:26
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intelikeyJucato um   better hang around   i may not be here long.05:26
hydrogenboip?05:26
RictoohitmanWilly: still screwed05:26
hitmanWillyevan__, too many for my connection :)05:26
flaccidim also here Jucato :p05:26
evan__lol05:26
Jucatointelikey: neither will I. 30 minutes to lunch :)05:27
Rictooi'll just reinstall kubuntu-desktop05:27
Rictooits no biggie05:27
Rictoobut how do I do it?05:27
evan__rictoo: make a kubuntu cd05:27
Jucatoflaccid: yeah, that's why I've been busy studying for the past hour :p05:27
Jucatothe room is in good hands05:27
flaccidhahaha05:27
Rictooevan__: What?05:27
RictooI can't just use apt-get remove?05:27
hitmanWillyRictoo, you'll need to apt-get autoremove after the uninstalling kubuntu-desktop05:27
flaccidRictoo: sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop05:27
hydrogenif he's flaccid the room definatly isn't in good /hands/05:27
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Jucatohahahah!!!05:27
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hitmanWillyflaccid, i doubt that would work, since desktop's just a meta, and all the deps will stay installed05:28
Jucatowhat does Rictoo need to do?05:28
hitmanWillyJucato, he wants to reinstall kde05:28
Jucatooh hm...05:29
flacciduse aptitude then05:29
RictooI don't care if any of my configuration files are screwed up05:29
Rictooas long as I'll still have all my files05:29
RictooI will, right?05:29
intelikey sudo apt-get install --reinstall kde-core05:29
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jhutchinshitmanWilly: kubuntu-desktop, in'it?05:29
hitmanWillyjhutchins, yes, but again that's just a meta05:29
flaccidthat won't do all of kde05:29
RictooI'm still going to have all my home files after this right? (just to be sure)\05:30
Jucatowell reisntalling kubuntu-desktop will reinstall anything that was removed too05:30
hitmanWillyhe'll have to throw in an autoremove as well05:30
jhutchinsflaccid: well, technically that would require installing using KDE's package management and repos.05:30
hitmanWillyfor a complete reinstall05:30
Jucatokde's package management? O.o05:30
jhutchinsAnybody around here ever mention making BACKUPS?05:30
flaccidjhutchins: doesn't require that at all. dpkg is suffice05:30
Rictoo033005 <    Rictoo> I'm still going to have all my home files after this right? (just to be sure)05:30
hitmanWillyRictoo, yes, just not any kde config files05:31
evan__back them up05:31
evan__always no matter what05:31
flaccidsudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude remove --purge kubuntu-desktop && sidp aptitude install kubuntu-desktop   <-- would that work?05:31
intelikeyRictoo package management will not affect ~/05:31
Rictooevan__: I'm not going to, so let's hope it'll be fine :05:31
Rictoo:p05:31
flaccidsidp = sudo05:31
Rictoodoing autoremove now05:31
evan__rictoo: braver than me05:31
evan__hell i have backups of backups05:32
Rictoolinux-headers-2.6.20-15-generic <-- was in the autoremove list05:32
Rictoorofl05:32
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RictooI hope linux will still boot up >>05:32
hitmanWillyRictoo, reinstall kubuntu-desktop before you reboot05:32
hitmanWillyRictoo, that's just the headers, not the kernel itself05:33
holycow*hmmm*05:33
RictooI have IceWM as a backup :p05:33
evan__would rictoo file sitch be differnet if /home had its own partition05:33
hitmanWillyevan__, nope05:33
intelikeyand to answer your Q Rictoo kernel headers have nothing to do with how it boots05:33
holycowhow could one grab a list of all gnome-desktop dependencies and pipe them to apt-get remove ?05:33
intelikeyholycow apt-cache can do that.05:33
hitmanWillyRictoo, you won't be able to compile kernel modules until you reinstall...lol05:34
Rictoobrb05:34
hitmanWillyholycow, you want to remove gnome altogether?05:34
holycowhitmanWilly: yup05:34
intelikeyhitmanWilly ...reinstall the kernel headers...  ^05:34
evan__would those here say that 450-500 kb/s is good?05:34
hitmanWillyholycow, apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop, then apt-get autoremove05:35
holycowintelikey: i presume i would need to drop that into a variable or feed apt-get remove a loist05:35
holycow*hmm*05:35
intelikeyholycow oh there is a lib package good for that.  ask in  #debian05:35
holycowhitmanWilly: oh thats much easier05:35
hydrogenevan__: that depends wholy on the from and to05:35
hydrogenif its from hda to hdb, I'd say no05:35
hydrogenif its from 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.1.2 I'd say no05:35
hitmanWillyholycow, that removes the gnome desktop and all it's deps05:35
evan__ok, just got my high speed so i dnt know what fast is, if that makes sense05:35
holycowhitmanWilly: thats awesome, thank you05:35
Jucatohttp://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde05:36
hydrogenif its from <randomipincongo> to your house, I'd say yes05:36
hitmanWillyevan__, i've got a 400k connection here, and that's slow for me05:36
evan__i guess its all relative then huh05:36
hitmanWillyyeah, lol\05:36
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intelikeyfaster than using a slowdem05:38
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evan__atleast you guys dont have a tin can w/ a string coming out the end05:38
holycowwow thats novel05:38
hydrogenfaster than hiring someone to dictate bites into a telephone05:38
holycowi have smoke signals05:38
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hydrogenbet you havn't heard that one before!05:38
evan__lol...smoke signals05:39
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niciohitmanWilly: im on firefox on a website.to view the streaming video they say i need plugings to view the video.it look like it wants to install real media player plugins allso the player :( it have any other player that has the plugins?05:39
niciohy9905:39
hydrogenthats called packet loss holycow :)(05:39
hitmanWillyno, connection crash!! lol05:39
nicio^^05:39
holycowno05:39
holycowthats called DINNER05:39
holycow-_-05:39
niciohitmanWilly: im on firefox on a website.to view the streaming video they say i need plugings to view the video.it look like it wants to install real media player plugins allso the player :( it have any other player that has the plugins? hydrogen05:39
evan__time to burn fiesty.iso05:40
intelikeynicio you are also repeating05:40
intelikeynicio you are also repeating05:40
hitmanWillynicio, hmm, i think real player is only real player, if that makes any sense05:40
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hitmanWillynicio, vlc MIGHT...05:40
hitmanWillynicio, but i doubt it05:41
holycow*mmmm* teriyaki packets05:41
niciohitmanWilly: the last time i install it real player never work but the flash was playing05:41
holycowwith stuffing05:41
hitmanWillynicio, i think realplayer is in the repos...05:41
intelikey!find realplay05:41
hitmanWillynicio, not sure though05:41
ubotuFile realplay found in apparmor-profiles, gworkspace-apps-wrappers05:41
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intelikeyguess not05:42
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hitmanWillynicio, you might try going to the realplayer site, and getting the linux version, it might be trying to give you the windows one05:42
hydrogen!info realplayer05:43
ubotuPackage realplayer does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas05:43
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Jucatotechnically, realplayer should be in the (canonical) commercial repos05:43
intelikeyhydrogen i just had the bot search for it and it found it not.05:43
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hydrogenhelix can probably play them as well05:43
Jucatoalong with opera05:43
RictoohitmanWilly: KDE is still there05:43
Rictooit didn't do anything05:43
hydrogenhelix can play .rm files05:43
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hitmanWillyRictoo, did you reinstall kubuntu-desktop?05:44
Rictoono05:44
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Rictoobut05:44
RictooKDE was still there >>05:44
Jucatomy Kaffeine can play .rm and .rmvb files...05:44
Rictooand it works05:44
hitmanWillyRictoo, it works now?05:44
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Rictoono05:44
RictooI'm saying uninstalling and autoremove'ing did nothing (to kubuntu-desktop)05:44
hitmanWillyRictoo, ok, something else you installed may be holding kde as a dependency05:45
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Rictooaw crap05:45
hitmanWillyRictoo, how exactly is kde not working, anyway?05:45
intelikeyi'm telling you pull something that all of kde depends on    find a key lib and rm it05:46
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intelikeysame for gnome  or any other bundle05:46
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RictoohitmanWilly: It05:46
RictooIt's honestly a long story05:46
Rictoobut I'd like to reinstall it anyway05:46
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Rictoolet's just forget about why :p05:46
hitmanWillyRictoo, ok, try reinstalling kubuntu-desktop and see if that helps fix the problem05:47
Rictoook05:47
hitmanWillyor not...05:47
intelikeyhe'll be back saying it didn't....05:48
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hitmanWillyprobably05:48
hitmanWillyif he'd tell me the problem, i might have a better idea how to fix it...05:49
intelikeyyeah.   but if he would listen to what i said, he could do what he's asking to do05:49
hitmanWillyor at least localize it05:49
hitmanWillyintelikey, well, there's always purging kwin...05:50
niciohydrogen: helix didnt work05:50
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intelikeyhitmanWilly but that may not fix his problem that alone wont get all of kde05:51
hitmanWillyhmm, both qt's then, maybe?05:51
hitmanWillyas in 3 & 405:51
hitmanWillyim pretty sure kde depends on that :)05:51
intelikeykdelibs* should05:51
hitmanWillyoh, duh...05:52
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intelikeysudo apt-get remove --purge -y kdelibs*05:53
intelikeyor maybe not -y   ...  :)05:53
hitmanWillyyeah, that'd do it05:53
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hitmanWillyheh, forgot how much nudity there was in ghost in the shell, as emphasized by the censor bars in the tv version...05:54
hitmanWillyanyway, back on topic05:54
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Daisuke_Laptopis everyone in every channel i'm in on every network watching GITS?05:58
Daisuke_Laptopam i the only one missing it?05:58
intelikeyis there a way to hide a process from the process table ?05:58
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intelikeywhat's gits ?05:59
=== nicio how do i install a bin file that is on the desktop?
Daisuke_Laptopghost int he shell05:59
Daisuke_Laptopin the*05:59
intelikeynicio bash filename.bin05:59
hitmanWillyDaisuke_Laptop, well, when you hang out in geek oriented chat rooms :)05:59
Daisuke_Laptoptrue, true05:59
niciointelikey: dont understand05:59
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hitmanWilly:P06:00
Daisuke_LaptophitmanWilly: i think those 5 geek points are made up by his preference of cli over gui06:00
intelikeynicio konsole command in the ~/Desktop dirrectory06:01
intelikeynicio bash filename.bin06:01
hitmanWillyDaisuke_Laptop, i never said he didn't have plenty to spare06:01
niciointelikey: what is bash?06:01
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intelikeyif /me was ops nicio just got banned06:01
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intelikey:)06:02
intelikeyah it's a shell06:02
hitmanWillyi was wondering if your head was going to explode on that one :P06:02
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hitmanWillynicio, think linux's version of DOS06:02
intelikeydidn't explode   but it did blow chuncks06:02
dudeiclesgood evening folks06:03
dudeicleshowdy intelikey. how are you?06:03
intelikeydudeicles well   and you?06:03
dudeiclescan't complain06:03
hitmanWillynicio, although, its about 10x more powerful06:03
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niciohitmanWilly:  intelikey bash filename doesnt install the bin file?cant u tell me what to rite in the dos window please?06:03
dudeicleskubuntu is still working and haven't found anything that I can only do with Windows06:03
Daisuke_Laptoponly 10x?06:03
dudeiclesthough I really wish Adobe AI and PS worked06:04
hydrogenactually06:04
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intelikeydudeicles if you have nothing to complain about,  do you want to barrow some trubble ???  :)06:04
hydrogendos is fairly powerful06:04
hitmanWillyDaisuke_Laptop, sorry, that was 2^10x :P06:04
dudeiclesintelikey: What type of trubble?06:04
intelikeyhydrogen that  DoS  not DOS  :)06:04
hydrogenno06:04
hydrogenboth06:04
hydrogen:)06:04
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purpleposeidonDOS is pretty powerful, you can use it to start linux06:05
hitmanWillynicio, ok, open up a konsole06:05
niciohitmanWilly: done06:05
hitmanWillynicio, cd Desktop06:05
niciohitmanWilly: do i rite cd desktop?06:05
hitmanWillyyes, in konsole06:06
hydrogenyes06:06
intelikeyoh children gone astray, finances to short to cover expenses,  health short of comfort, friend dying with cancer,   not to mention the smaller day to day things...   pick one.06:06
intelikeydudeicles ^06:06
hydrogeni'll pick the third06:06
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niciohitmanWilly:  and?06:06
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hitmanWillynicio, ls06:06
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dudeiclesintelikey: i'll take smaller day to day things for 100 Alex06:07
intelikeythat was FOUR06:07
hitmanWillynicio, do you see the .bin file listed?06:07
hydrogenhmm06:07
intelikeyor heheh five sorry06:07
hydrogenI /think/ you should be able to just click on the .bin file on the desktop06:07
nicio hydrogen after  ls press enter?06:07
hydrogenand it will run automagically06:07
hydrogennicio: yes06:08
hitmanWillyhydrogen, not if it's not tagged exec06:08
hydrogenls is short for 'list', its analogous to dir in dos06:08
nicioi like that word automagically :) q_p06:08
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hydrogenhitmanWilly: most bin files are though :)06:08
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hitmanWillyhydrogen, plus, its a text mode installer anyway06:09
hydrogenhitmanWilly: I think it'll open a konsole to install it in06:09
hydrogenand run it there06:09
niciohitmanWilly: -su: cd: Desktop: No such file or directory06:09
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hitmanWillynicio, ok, try double clicking the file on the desktop, see if that runs it06:09
intelikeydudeicles i'll tell one more thing then get back on topic, (true story) had a friend ask me one day "how are you" to which i replied, "i could complain, but it doesn't seem to do any good".   he was silent for several moments, then asked  "have you tried jumping up and down while you complain?"    :)))06:10
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niciohitmanWilly: i need wine for that06:10
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intelikeynicio ?06:11
intelikeyi don't think so.06:11
niciohitmanWilly: they explain here but it dont work seems like this way is not for kubuntu http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/redhat-fedora-linux-help/42104-how-install-realplayer-bin.html06:11
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hydrogenno.06:11
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intelikeynicio you are not in the users home dir.  """<nicio> hitmanWilly: -su: cd: Desktop: No such file or directory"""06:12
Murchadh`Probably work better if you had some wine whilst jumping up and down and complaining!06:12
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hitmanWillynicio, not for the linux version, you don't06:12
hydrogenopen a konsole, cd Desktop; chmod +x RealPlayer<tab>; sudo ./RealPlayer<Tab>06:12
hydrogendon't follow the su part06:12
hitmanWillyhydrogen, he can't cd to Desktop for some reason06:12
dudeiclesintelikey: At least your friend made you laugh instead of make you feel worse. :)06:13
hydrogenhitmanWilly: its because he was trying to do it in roots environment06:13
hydrogenI think06:13
hitmanWillyhydrogen, oh, well that would do it06:13
intelikeyhitmanWilly he's not in the users $HOME   "-su" error.06:13
hydrogenthe su should give it away :)06:13
hitmanWillyah, must have missed that part06:13
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niciohydrogen: intelikey dont understand the language your speekin to me nicio confuse06:14
nicio:/06:14
intelikeynobody pays any attention to me...   even when i'm right, nobody listens...06:14
hydrogenyou'd probably be better off enabling the canonical repository06:14
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hydrogenrather than installing it manualy06:14
hydrogen!canonical06:14
ubotuCanonical Ltd. is committed to the development, distribution and promotion of open source software products, and to providing tools and support to the open source community. It is the driving force behind the Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and Edubuntu Operating Systems. Canonical's website is at http://www.canonical.com/06:15
hitmanWillyhydrogen, ok, i'll let you walk him through that :)06:15
hydrogen deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu feisty-commercial main06:15
intelikeynicio yidish tov ?06:15
nicio???06:15
intelikeyguess not..06:15
hydrogennicio: in console, echo 'deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu feisty-commercial main' | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list06:16
hitmanWillyintelikey, no, i don't think he speaks yiddish...06:16
intelikeyobviously not.06:16
niciohydrogen:  O_O06:16
hydrogenthen update in adept and search for realplayer06:16
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hydrogenit should be there06:16
hitmanWillyintelikey, and neither do I, btw, just recoignize it when I see it...06:17
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intelikeyk06:17
hydrogenthe whole 'yidish' in the line probably helps one recognize it06:17
hitmanWillymaybe...:P06:17
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ExospaciacI know this probably isn't the right place to ask, but I am having some problems with Firefox. The whole program is laggy to the point where it is completely unusable.06:18
ExospaciacFor a while it was okay, but now I cannot even use it.06:18
hitmanWillymemory leak...06:18
hokatichenciSo, I was in here earlier reguarding avahi-autoipd, which I am trying to disable from my system, and nothing so far seems to work, any suggestions?06:18
hitmanWillyhokatichenci, you could try update-rc.d06:19
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hitmanWillyi think that's the app on buntu06:19
intelikeytis06:20
hokatichencihitmanWilly, It's not listed in the rc levels as far as I can tell06:20
hitmanWillyhmmm, check rc.local06:20
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intelikeyhokatichenci you can move remove rename chmod or edit the script in /etc/init.d   assuming it's upstart that's starting it.06:21
hokatichencihitmanWilly, it isn't listed anywhere - despite being told to not start in /etc/default/avahi-daemon and not being listed, something is started this06:22
hokatichenciintelikey, well that doesn't really solve the fact that something is broken somewher06:22
niciointelikey: join me plese in #xp_killer ch to explain wa all i have to type in dos to install a bin file please06:22
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hitmanWillyhmmm, is kde starting it up for some reason?06:23
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hokatichenciThats my concern06:23
hokatichenciis that its hard wired somewhere, and it is messing up my networking06:23
intelikeynicio copy & paste this into a konsole#                                                                                            sudo bash ~/Desktop/*.bin06:23
hokatichenciand being incredibly annoying06:23
intelikeythat's all you need nicio06:24
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hitmanWillydoes upstart read the inittab file? or is it skipped entirely?06:24
intelikeyhokatichenci hardwaire in the networking script maybe...06:25
niciointelikey: cannot execute binary file06:25
nicioerror06:25
intelikeyhitmanWilly errr is there one on a clean install that has upstart ?06:25
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niciointelikey: but it did see the file06:25
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intelikeynicio oh binary file.   that's not the linux version you have.06:25
hitmanWillyintelikey, not sure, but it might read one if it is present06:26
niciointelikey: i install it once but i lost and forgot how06:26
hitmanWillyintelikey, yeah it is, he just needs to chmod it06:26
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intelikeyhitmanWilly idk.  haven't seen upstart yet myself06:26
niciointelikey: no not linux version06:26
intelikeyhitmanWilly   ^06:26
hitmanWillynicio, you need the linux version06:27
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hitmanWillyintelikey, and my bad...06:27
niciosorry it's a linux version06:27
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hitmanWillyintelikey, ah hah!06:27
intelikeyhitmanWilly well somebodies bad....06:27
hitmanWillylol06:27
hokatichenciand it seems that the reboot button is totally busted, awesome.06:27
intelikeynicio shares his confusion with #kubuntu     seems to be the name of this song06:28
niciohitmanWilly: last time befor i reinstall linux i install the same bin file06:28
hitmanWillynicio, ok, open up a fresh konsole06:28
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hitmanWillynicio, and type in the following:06:28
nicioroot?06:28
hitmanWillynicio, no06:28
hitmanWillynicio, regular konsole06:28
niciok06:28
hitmanWillynicio, ok,06:29
intelikeychmod 755 ~/Desktop/*.bin06:30
hokatichenciffs, avahi-autoipd refuses to die06:30
intelikeywaiting for that ?06:30
hitmanWillynicio: chmod +x ~/Desktop/*.bin && sudo ~/Desktop/*.bin06:30
hitmanWillyintelikey, that :)06:30
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hitmanWillyintelikey, trying to put it into one cut/paste cmd06:31
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hitmanWillyintelikey, ok, what did I screw up...06:31
intelikeynothing.   jsut waiting...06:32
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hitmanWillyintelikey, assuming that was the only .bin file on his desktop, it should work...06:33
intelikeymost file.bin are scripts wrapped around an archive file06:34
hokatichenciThings that will not disable avahi-autoipd: disabling /etc/default/avahi-daemon, chmod -x /etc/init.d/avahi-daemon, removing avahi-daemon from the runlevels06:34
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hokatichenciThis program is more invasive than the realnetworks stuff06:35
DaSkreechcan someone dig the name inter.viewcentral.com and tell me who owns it?06:35
intelikeyhokatichenci    sudo chmod 000000 /etc/init.d/avahi-daemon*   and restart06:35
hokatichenciintelikey, I am very, very sure that won't work06:36
hokatichenciSomething is manually calling this stuff06:36
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niciohitmanWilly: i didnt like that way it install but it's install but not working for firefox.how do i make firefox scan for plugins?06:36
intelikeysudo apt-get remove avahi*06:37
hitmanWillyDaSkreech, hmm, doesn't seem to exist in the whois database...06:37
intelikeypull rank on it.06:37
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DaSkreechhitmanWilly: seriously?06:37
hokatichenciintelikey, that attempts to remove a bunch of kde things06:37
hitmanWillyDaSkreech, try it06:37
hokatichenciintelikey, it's invasive, I don't want it, I'm ashamed that it's so tied in.06:37
intelikeyhokatichenci then it may be kde that starts it...06:38
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DaSkreechhitmanWilly: can't I'm on windows06:38
intelikeyhokatichenci remove it and leave the package.06:38
hokatichenciintelikey, thats the point06:38
conrad_hey, whats up with firefox crashing, resulting in a loss of ability to view websites through lynx, firefox, or konquerer, but remaining online? Like, being able to be on IRC, aim, ping stuff, and all? Yet not able to view websites at other ports?06:38
hitmanWillyDaSkreech, hold on, maybe I can traceroute it06:38
conrad_i killed dhcpcd-bin and reconnected, but that didn't help.06:39
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hokatichenciIf it wasn't for the fact that everything else was already working that I needed to be working I would have installed another distro06:40
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intelikeyhokatichenci don't run this unless you are serious about disabling it...      dpkg -L avahi* | while read Q ;do sudo mv "$Q" /root ;echo "$Q" >> /root/list.avahi-files ;done06:41
DaSkreechhitmanWilly: kk06:41
hitmanWillyDaSkreech, hmm, don't seem to be having any luck...06:41
intelikeyhokatichenci and you may need the exact package name   and possably a | cut06:41
hokatichenciintelikey, I fixed it by doing chmod -rwx /usr/sbin/avahi*06:42
niciohydrogen: how to check my emails on kotepe?06:42
hokatichencibut that doesn't really solve the problem06:42
hitmanWillynicio, ok, you may need to download a seperate plugin for firefox06:42
hokatichencithat the software is totally busted and I couldn't disable it in a reasonable manner06:42
niciommm06:42
intelikeyno. no | cut needed   but you may need the package name.06:42
hitmanWillyhokatichenci, if you use buntu, get used to that kind of thing06:42
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intelikeyand if you want to fix it.  install something that doesn't expect you to switch to a new version every few months06:43
DaSkreechWhat's the issue hokatichenci ?06:43
hokatichenciDaSkreech, disabling avahi-autoipd is more or less impossible06:44
DaSkreech!info avahi-autoipd06:44
ubotuavahi-autoipd: Avahi IPv4LL network address configuration daemon. In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.17-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 41 kB, installed size 176 kB06:44
intelikeyimpossable ?   i gave at least two ways to disable it,  no three.06:45
DaSkreechhokatichenci: is it in ubuntu-base?06:45
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conrad_i miss windows ability to not require reboots to get your inhternet back up... ugh06:46
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DaSkreechconrad_: what?06:46
hokatichenciDaSkreech, its tightly integrated to KDE, you can't uninstall it06:46
conrad_yeah, seriously.06:46
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DaSkreechhitmanWilly: can you dig accpaconline.com and tell me who owns it?06:47
nicioconrad_: u dont need to reboot just do like me unplug plug back :p06:47
intelikeyone) remove the package.  two) move the executable out of path.  three) make it not executable and leave it in path.06:47
conrad_im trying to switch fully to linux, but then it does these things like firefox crashes, leaving me with no ability to visit webpages06:47
conrad_regardless of what browser i use.06:47
conrad_yet im still able to use irc, or any other internet service06:47
DaSkreechconrad_: reboot your networking maybe?06:47
conrad_i assume that's done through 'killall dhcpcd-bin'06:48
conrad_right?06:48
hydrogendon't use firefox at all?06:48
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DaSkreechconrad_: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart06:48
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intelikeyifupdown blah06:48
intelikeyifup/down blah06:49
hitmanWillyDaSkreech, here's the whois info: http://rafb.net/p/lau2XU37.html06:49
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intelikey!info dig06:50
ubotuPackage dig does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas06:50
intelikeydoesn't exist on this box either06:50
hitmanWillyDaSkreech, not sure what's in there, just piped it to wgetpaste06:50
intelikey!find dig06:51
ubotuFound: digikam, digikamimageplugins, libdigest-hmac-perl, libdigest-sha1-perl, perl (and 24 others)06:51
DaSkreechhitmanWilly: it's legit it seems06:51
hokatichenciDaSkreech, anyideas on the avahi-autoipd though?06:52
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conrad_nope. it messes with eth0, when wlan0 is what i need.06:52
DaSkreechBloody company has like 14 addresses as main contact in the US alone06:52
hokatichenciIt seems to be poor kubuntu design to integrate it so tightly to me06:52
DaSkreechhokatichenci: do you have intelikey  blocked or something?06:52
hokatichenciMy gentoo system which also runs KDE doesn't even have the lib's installed as far as I can tell06:52
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hokatichenciDaSkreech, I have a solution, but its ugly06:52
conrad_im using dhcpcd, not dhclient3... why is dhclient3 running?06:53
hitmanWillyDaSkreech, why do you need this anyway?06:53
niciohitmanWilly: how do i get to Mozilla plugins directory06:53
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hokatichencithe point is that its pretty messed up to integrate like that06:53
DaSkreechhitmanWilly: someone is paying for online courses for accpac and wants to find out if the site is legit06:53
hitmanWillynicio, the path is ~/.mozilla/plugins/06:54
DaSkreechhokatichenci: Fine explain why in #kubuntu-devel and file a bug06:54
DaSkreech!bugs | hokatichenci06:54
conrad_what's dhcpbd?06:54
ubotuhokatichenci: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots06:54
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hitmanWillyDaSkreech, ah, ok, checking for phishers, got it06:55
DaSkreechhitmanWilly: yup the site looks pretty good but it's still a bit strange06:55
juliusHey all, for some reason the bars arent drawn on windows anymore like a % bar for downloading files.06:55
hitmanWillyDaSkreech, well, it has a real address with it...06:56
DaSkreechhitmanWilly: I know I saw06:56
hitmanWillyDaSkreech, though it is an office building06:56
hitmanWillyDaSkreech, try the phone number, maybe06:57
niciohitmanWilly: how do i get to Mozilla components directory (a different folder)06:57
intelikeyhokatichenci i have to concur with you on that.  far to many dependant packages   many of which could and should not be dependancies.06:57
hitmanWillynicio, it should be the same folder06:58
conrad_ok. so restarting the network doesnt work either. All that network restart deos is run dhclient, right?06:58
hokatichenciintelikey, I would be fine if it you know, was compiled and had dep's, couldn't be uninstalled, but it shouldn't be so tightly integrated for a purpose which I don't even fully understand and has limited usage06:58
hitmanWillynicio, or try just ~/.mozilla06:58
DaSkreechhitmanWilly: the registrar has dual good info so if they are a phisher they are doing a lot of work06:58
hitmanWillyDaSkreech, :)06:59
hitmanWillythat's either real good or real bad06:59
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hitmanWillyanyway, all, I need to get some sleep, early day tommorrow07:00
DaSkreechIt's really bad for them either way07:01
Drew3Hi Folks, I have used a script that gathers all the multimedia 'stuff', it worked great, I forgot its name,   Whom ever knows get a big thank you07:01
DaSkreechhitmanWilly: Night thanks07:01
DaSkreech!easyubuntu07:01
ubotueasyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu07:01
intelikeyconrad_ did you ifdown and ifup the interface ?    *example*  sudo ifdown eth0 ;sudo ifup eth007:01
DaSkreechDrew3: the multimedia stuff is 2 minutes to enable it's faster than the script07:01
conrad_what does ifup do?07:02
conrad_return 1 if your connected?07:02
DaSkreechconrad_: it brings up a network interface07:02
intelikeyif you ifdown.  you wont be connected07:02
conrad_ok im gonna do that. brb.07:02
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conrad_ah, no go07:03
conrad_ifdown: interface wlan0 not configured07:03
intelikeyifconfig07:03
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intelikeylook at what you are connected over07:03
conrad_wlan0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:0D:3A:23:D0:3707:03
intelikeywe probably didn't need your hardware mac address07:04
conrad_well07:04
Drew3Thank you  ubotu, DaSkreech07:04
conrad_wlan0 ;)07:04
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intelikeyifconfig wlan0 down    will bring it down.   sudo /etc/init.d/network* start    should  bring it back up    may need  stop then start07:06
conrad_yep07:06
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conrad_that definetely brought it down and put it back up.07:07
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conrad_but im still not able to see webpages.07:07
conrad_im sitting here on irc, got kopete running, and i can ping google07:07
conrad_but i cant telnet to google on port 80.07:07
conrad_nor can i view webpages on different ports.07:07
intelikeythen it's not the network.  most likely.    possable dns server07:07
conrad_the thing is, all of my other computers are fine, and this only happens after firefox crashes07:08
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khaije1every now and then my drop-down menus will appear in the background of things... what is with that!?07:08
intelikeywe need Jucato cause he's the network expert...07:08
intelikey:)07:08
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conrad_weird eh?07:09
conrad_i so don't understand.07:09
intelikeyconrad_ yeah,  i personally know extreemly little about networking.   almost as little as i know about kde.       but the Jucato being network guru was a joke so don't prode him about that.07:10
kkathmangreetings all07:11
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conrad_its just a bunch of data being sent over the air. what's the difference between telnet google.com 80, and telnet some mud server?07:11
conrad_yet the mud servers will connect...07:11
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conrad_and how come rebooting fixes this07:12
conrad_yet not killing every process and restarting it07:12
intelikeythe joke was a case of mistaken identity some years ago, and been kinda re-playing it as a comedy bit ever sense.07:12
intelikeyconrad_ probably dns server ?   check /etc/resolv.conf07:13
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intelikeyon that box and on one that works  see if they are the same07:13
conrad_nameserver 192.168.2.107:13
conrad_that's my router.07:13
intelikeyok07:14
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conrad_and 'search workgroup'07:14
conrad_which i have no clue what that means.07:14
intelikeyand on other *nix boxen ?07:14
conrad_eh i have a gentoo laptop somewhere07:14
conrad_one sec.07:14
intelikeyconrad_ the 'search workgroup' is not from the same file is it ?07:15
conrad_yeah it is07:15
intelikey<blinks>07:16
conrad_just those 2 lines07:16
conrad_search WorkGroup  |  nameserver 192.168.2.107:16
intelikeytry changing that first line to      nameserver 209.244.0.4      or a free dns07:17
intelikeyi'm not sure that one is free...07:17
conrad_that's the same that my gentoo box has07:17
intelikeybut you can test it.07:17
conrad_192.168.2.107:17
intelikeyno the other line07:17
conrad_ok.07:18
conrad_so two lines that say nameserver?07:18
intelikeyyes07:18
conrad_ok, rebooting network brb07:18
intelikeyi'm not sure that will hold through a reboot...07:19
intelikeyidk.  i'll hush.07:19
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conrad_back07:21
conrad_didnt work.07:21
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intelikeyconrad_ sorry,  i don't know enough to help you on that.07:23
conrad_no problem. it's weird as hell07:23
conrad_makes absolutely no sense to me07:23
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conrad_alright thanks for trying07:25
conrad_bye07:25
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sk1llet!ru07:43
ubotu   #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke07:43
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prakdoes anyone know how to overwrite the contents of folder a onto folder b?07:47
intelikeymv07:49
intelikey!37607:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 376 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:49
jussi01Hello everyone. is there a way to make the screen go blank when I press alt + ctrl + l07:50
prak!cp07:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:50
DaSkreechjussi01: try F1 instead :)07:50
intelikeyman cp    man mv    man man      man woman.... ooops no manual for woman.07:51
ardchoilleprak: Isn't cp part of linuxutils?07:51
ardchoille!info linuxutils07:51
ubotuPackage linuxutils does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas07:51
prak!linuxutils07:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about linuxutils - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:51
ardchoilleI guess not, lol07:51
jussi01DaSkreech: ??07:51
praklooking at man cp right now, ardchoille07:51
Chrisit's part of coreutils07:52
prak!info coreutils07:52
ardchoilleChris: Ah, that's it.07:52
ubotucoreutils: The GNU core utilities. In component main, is required. Version 5.97-5.2ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 1428 kB, installed size 9036 kB07:52
intelikeyall packages are optional on my box.   even libc607:53
intelikeybut i don't count07:53
ardchoilleintelikey: Everyone counts :)07:53
Chrisespecially rain man07:54
ardchoillelol07:54
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shifty-how can i make compiz run when x starts so i can run awn07:54
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intelikeynot me i just script it.     | while read line ;do n=$((0$n + 1)) ;done ;echo $n07:55
intelikey!autostart | shifty-07:56
ubotushifty-: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.07:56
shifty-ubotu: so it has to run compiz --replace each time it starts?07:56
intelikey:)07:56
intelikeyyou might be able to set it up in /etc/X11/xinit or womething,  idk.07:57
shifty-oh07:58
intelikeyyou might be able to set it up in /etc/X11/default-display-manager   or womething,  idk.07:58
intelikeywomething   heh07:58
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BadRobot:-D08:01
BadRobothi there08:01
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intelikeyshem08:02
intelikeyer  high.08:02
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BadRobotI need help,I just installed Kubuntu on my laptop,but after the update ,I had to reboot it,but now it won't starp up,it hungs on the HP logo and boot setup08:03
BadRobotso does anyone if it could be a hardware failure or HDD failure?08:03
intelikeyof course it "could be hardware"  that's always possable08:05
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intelikeyit's also possable that some code didn't flush from the ram like it should have    or a device chip...08:05
Jucatointelikey: no fair talking about me when I'm taking a snooze :(08:06
intelikeybut it's about as likely that grub or the initramfs.img is to blame08:06
intelikeyJucato heh...    sorry.08:07
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Jucatoheh no problem :)08:07
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intelikeybut you didn't mention sleep.    it's not really my fault.08:07
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intelikeysleeping at this hour.   what's wrong with you ?08:07
Jucatoasthma. that's what08:08
BadRobotI have done the diagnostic and RAM passed08:08
Bebegehey ya'll...08:08
intelikeyoh. Jucato any thoughts on BadRobot's post ^   i gota run.08:08
Jucatoer no... sorry08:09
Bebegeanyone here know if there is a version of MSN Messenger for Linux?08:09
holycowokay apt-get autoremove ubuntu-desktop only removes the metapackage08:09
holycownot all its dependencies08:09
intelikeyseems like several have been reporting boot issues after the latest updates.08:09
ardchoille!info amsn08:09
ubotuamsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.96+dfsg1-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 2488 kB, installed size 9108 kB08:09
jussi01Bebege: no, but there are programs for msn...08:09
ardchoilleBebege: ^^08:09
holycowany other ways of grabbing the deps of a metapackage and getting apt to purge them?08:10
jussi01!info kmess | Bebege08:10
ubotubebege: kmess: Instant messenger to use MSN on KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.3-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1067 kB, installed size 2620 kB08:10
jussi01!info kmess | Bebege08:10
jussi01!info kopete | Bebege08:10
ubotubebege: kopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu9 (feisty), package size 7108 kB, installed size 19632 kB08:10
Bebegezeen......08:10
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intelikeyholycow  apt-cache --rdeps package maybe ?  no not reverse.  but the man page covers it.08:11
ardchoilleIsn't kopete installed in kubuntu?08:11
Bebegequestion.... do you know if it can carry out all the functions of Messenger, like voice and stuff?08:11
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jussi01Bebege: no, no voice08:11
prakhow do i exit from man in terminal?08:11
jussi01video yes08:11
ardchoilleprak: q08:11
intelikeylater folks.   shalom08:11
jussi01Later intelikey08:11
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kgx!katapult08:12
ubotukatapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.08:12
holycowdanke, i shall try that08:12
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jussi01ok, its been  an hour... [08:50]  <jussi01> Hello everyone. is there a way to make the screen go blank when I press alt + ctrl + l08:19
Jucatolike lock session?08:19
prakthanks ardchoille08:19
Jucatojussi01: is that a small letter L?08:20
jussi01Jucato: yes08:20
Chrisi thought ctrl + alt + l did lock session by default08:20
Jucatoyeah it is08:20
jussi01it does, but i want a blank screen when i lock08:20
Jucatoit also blanks the screen here08:20
jussi01not here08:20
Chrisit depends which screensaver is set, i expect.08:21
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Jucatomine isn't set so it blanks I guess08:21
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Jucatojussi01: try settings the screensaver to Blank Screen08:23
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Jucatooooh trekkie08:23
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jussi01hmmm, am i going blind? where do they hide the screensaver now...08:24
Jucatoright-click on the desktop -> COnfigure Desktop?08:24
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Jucatoor System Settings -> Desktop08:24
jussi01Jucato: thanks, that fixed it08:25
jussi01:)08:25
Jucato:P08:25
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arkygeekhi.  I had beryl working beautifully, rebooted, and now it won't launch.... running on 24" imac08:40
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arkygeekany ideas?08:40
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sk1lletarkygeek: ubey sibya ap stinu08:41
arkygeeko_O ???08:41
ardchoillearkygeek: !beryl | arkygeek08:41
sk1lletb)08:41
sk1lletya krevedko08:41
ardchoillearkygeek: Try asking in #ubuntu-effects08:41
arkygeekardchoille: thx08:42
ardchoilleyw08:42
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ardchoilleSomebody wake the bot up please08:42
ce_lonelybuzz08:42
Jucato!beryl | ardchoille08:42
ubotuardchoille: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects08:42
Jucatoardchoille: perhaps you used it incorrectly?08:43
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ardchoilleJucato: Perhaps you're right08:43
sk1lletya lublu ebatso08:43
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Jucatosk1llet: English only please.08:44
ardchoillesk1llet: This is an Eglish channel. Which language are you speaking?08:44
Jucatorussian. and he's in the ru channel08:44
sk1lletrussian08:44
ardchoillesk1llet: Stop being silly ;)08:44
sk1lletam...08:44
sk1lleti love to fuck08:44
sk1lletthis is08:44
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sk1lletya lublu ebatso08:44
Jucato!language | sk1llet08:45
ubotusk1llet: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.08:45
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sk1lletsorry08:45
sk1lleti need walk with my bear...08:45
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nicioJucato: to install java witch one to i have to click on in adept?08:53
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niciodo*08:53
Jucatosun-java6-bin (or sun-java5-bin)08:54
Jucatoor in Add/Remove Programs, just search for the Sun version08:54
stdinif you want the plugin uoi need the -plugin one too08:54
stdins/uoi/you/08:54
Jucatoyeah, for firefox08:54
Jucatohi stdin08:54
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stdin:p08:55
niciostdin: "uoi need the -plugin one too" didnt understand that part08:55
Jucatonicio: replace "uoi" with "you"08:56
Jucatothat's what s/uoi/you/ practically means08:56
stdinnicio: if you want the java plugin you need to install the sun-java5-plugin package, or the sun-java6-plugin package08:56
Jucatoin sed/vim speak08:56
Jucatofor firefox mostly08:56
stdinworks in konquror too08:57
Jucatohm.. I never had need to install the -plugin for Konq08:57
stdinfor the jre?08:58
Jucatoyeah, just the plain -bin/-jre worked last time08:58
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Jucatonever had use for Java anyway08:58
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nicioJucato: i select all u told me it download the packs in 1mili sec is that normal?09:00
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Jucatoit will still install, then it will ask you to agree to a license09:00
nicioJucato: do u know how to install a bin file that is on the desktop?09:01
nicioJucato: there was no licen to agreed09:01
JucatoO.o09:01
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stdinJucato: hmm, you're right "sun-java6-bin: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.02/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so" seems it's in -bin now :)09:02
niciolol no09:02
nicioi have a bin file i want to install09:02
Jucatonicio: how did you download java? from where?09:02
nicioadept09:02
Jucatothat bin file would be the java installer I presume?09:03
niciono09:03
nicioits real player bin09:03
Jucatousually, you go to the directory where the .bin file is in, then you run it like "./filename.bin" (the ./ is important)09:03
Jucatoyou might have to use sudo with that. not really sure09:04
stdinnicio: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods09:04
niciothe normale plugins everyone told me to install never work,only the bin but i forgot how i install it the last time09:04
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niciostdin: after i add deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main close the window and do what?09:08
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stdinnicio: open adept, then click on fetch updates, then you should be able to install realplayer from adept09:09
stdinnicio: or from Add/Remove09:09
niciostdin: is that new?i never swa that way every time i was told to install the bin09:12
stdinnicio: no, it's been around for a while09:13
niciostdin: why adept keep breakin packs?it allways the same for updates etc09:14
kumamotocould be the never ending update of linux38609:15
niciostdin: realplay keeps faillin at 20% instalation09:16
stdinnicio: open konsole and do "sudo apt-get install realplay"09:17
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niciostdin: is there a way to put the dos window in english?it give me an error wen i sudo apt-get install realplay09:20
stdinnicio: it's not DOS :P, but put "LANG=C sudo apt-get install reallplay" to get english09:21
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niciostdin: i did LANG=C sudo apt-get install reallplay but why it saying Couldn't find package reallplay09:26
stdinnicio: realplay, not reallplay09:27
niciostdin: that wa it said i paste it09:27
stdinnicio: copy & paste this line: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install realplay09:28
Jucatostdin: heh your typo :P09:28
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niciostdin: http://pastebin.com/mc5baf1c09:29
stdinnicio: remove helix-player first09:29
niciooh09:29
niciothis is confution one thing can not install cause another09:30
smileonuwhere is the directory for scripts by konversation?09:31
stdinsmileonu: ~/.kde/share/apps/konversation/scripts09:32
Jucatoor /usr/share/apps/konversation/scripts/ for the system-wide/system-default ones09:32
smileonuive try this, but there is noch directorie -.-09:32
smileonui try 2nd one09:32
stdinsmileonu: you can just make it09:32
niciostdin: instalation succes tanks09:32
smileonuyes, but there is a default script09:32
smileonu./media09:32
smileonui want to change something09:32
stdinsmileonu: if you put it in ~/.kde/share/apps/konversation/scripts it should override the system default (I think)09:33
stdinnicio: :)09:33
smileonu2nd one is fine09:33
smileonuthx stdin09:33
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Jucatosmileonu: the /usr directory is for the ones that were installed by default and for scripts that all users will be able to use. you would need admin privileges to modify or add to those. the location stdin gave is for your own user. you can create that directory if it's missing09:35
niciostdin: real player is install but the website still askin for the plugin to view the flash09:36
niciofirefox09:36
stdin!flash09:36
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash09:36
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holycowheh09:40
holycowfunny09:40
holycowto actually remove ubuntu-desktop and dependencies BUT leave kubuntu09:40
holycowwhat you HAVETO do09:40
holycowis generate two lists of dependencies09:40
niciostdin: i install the none free allready.how do i know if my pc is 64b or 32b?09:40
holycowand only remove the booleaned ubuntu-desktop dependencies09:41
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stdinholycow: or just google for "purekde"09:41
holycowBECAUSE ubuntu-desktoip DEPENDS on things like cups and acpi09:41
holycow>_<09:41
holycowand a bash library09:41
Jucatodidn't I just give that link a few hours ago...09:41
Jucatohttp://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde09:41
holycowchecking, never heard of it09:42
stdinshouldn't ubuntu-standard depend on cups/acpi etc. not ubuntu-desktop?09:42
holycowright!09:42
holycowone would think09:42
holycowdo apt-cache depends ubuntu-desktop09:42
holycowunless i'm misunderstanding something about that command09:42
holycowaha great link thank you09:43
stdinholycow: both ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop have dependencies on those09:44
holycowindeed09:44
stdinbut it should be in -standard imo09:44
holycowimho too09:44
holycowthats what i discovered when i finally generated a string containing all the deps ... heh i wouldn't be able to log back in ... >_<09:45
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holycowfantastic linkage, thank you09:46
holycowthat should be turned into a script and packaged up and put in the repos09:47
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=== Jucato just read that as fantastic lineage...
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stdinseems there are 81 duplicate dependencies in {k,u}buntu-desktop09:51
stdindependencies/recommends09:52
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holycowright09:52
holycowwell i didn't know that but ...09:53
holycowkinda crazy imho09:53
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holycowobviously someone is much better with awk than me :)09:53
holycowlol09:53
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stdinholycow: well, sort and uniq actually :)09:55
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Jucatohope not --recurse?09:55
holycowconsidering the purpose of the metapackages its understandeable they try to pull in core packages09:55
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holycowso my thought to use metapackage info to reverse the process isn't going to work09:56
holycowthe purekde approach seems correct09:56
holycowjust manually keeping a list of core de packages09:56
stdinJucato: apt-cache depends kubuntu-desktop > k ; apt-cache depends ubuntu-desktop > u ; cat k u | sort | uniq -d > dups09:56
holycownice :)09:57
holycowmine was faaaaaaaaaaar more long winded09:57
holycowlol09:57
JucatoI don't understand what that has to do with "81 dups"..09:58
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stdinJucato: duplications09:58
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Jucatoaren't you just comparing what deps kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop have in common?09:59
holycowheh in other words we should have two more metapackages09:59
holycowubuntu-desktop-remove and kubuntu-desktop-remove09:59
Jucatometapackages are not for removing.... they are for installing09:59
holycowi disagree09:59
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holycowmetapackages are for agregating functionality10:00
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stdinJucato: if you look at the list, a lot of those should be in -standard I think, acip, cups, hal ...10:00
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Jucatostdin: and they aren't?10:00
stdinJucato: nope10:01
Jucatohm...10:01
holycowthe problem really is that my wanting to remove gnome and using ubuntu-desktop to try to accomplish that is the wrong approach10:01
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holycowwhat we have discovered is that there is an overlap to some degree but the metapackage serves a differentpurpse from what a de does10:02
nicioJucato: how can i read a url file from xp?10:02
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Jucatonicio: don't know10:02
holycowJucato: for fucks sake, stop being an mwilson10:02
holycowjesus f christ dude :)10:02
holycowoops sorry haha10:03
nicioohmy | holycow10:03
Jucato!language10:03
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.10:03
Jucatoand I don't even know who that is10:03
stdinnicio: cat file.url ?10:03
holycowJucato: seriously, you seem like a smart fellow, stop being so pedantic10:03
Jucatofine10:03
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holycowJucato: *nod* i don't mean it as an insult, in #debian there was  aperson named mwilson for a long time10:03
niciostdin: its i file that was save in favorit on xp10:03
holycowand he was a very bright person who was correct all of the time but just focused in on minutia making it hard to communicate10:04
Jucatotoo late for that10:04
holycow:)10:04
stdinnicio: yeah, I think they are just a file with a url in them, try opening it with kate or use "cat filename.url"10:04
holycowno i rally didn't mean it as an insult, it comes accross that way because i have a fuse ... you have been nice to me10:04
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happytigerHey there. what is a cool gui unmount tool. So my girlfriend can easily unmount her usbflash disc? Starting a konsole and typing sudo umount /media/somename is to scarry for her10:05
Jucatohappytiger: right-click on the icon on the Desktop10:05
holycowhappytiger: konqueror10:05
holycowor what Jucato said10:05
stdinhappytiger: the url media:/ should help too10:06
happytigerAh oki I never new this guess I am to much of cli junkie :-) cool knew there must be another way both I never bothered before lol10:06
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happytigerthx10:07
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niciostdin: kate did it10:07
waylandbillone of the rules of the channel is to watch the language, so it doesn't seem trivial to me and I'm sure others.10:07
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niciostdin: how can i save a flash video with firefox and konqueror10:12
nicio?10:12
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stdinI don't know, there's probably some firefox extension for it tho10:12
holycowgoogle that10:12
holycowlots of different tools for linux10:13
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waylandbillthere's tons of different FF extensions to save video files.10:20
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erikja!wireless10:28
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs10:28
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niciou10:34
berndhi, i got no sound with kubuntu, it seems that it needs pulseaudio and only root have the permission to connect to pulseaudio. have anybody an indea why?10:34
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gordonjcphi10:35
gordonjcphow do I change the colours for icon labels on the desktop, in particular getting rid of the mid-grey outline?10:35
nicio!sound10:36
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP310:36
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niciogordonjcp: right click the icon u want to change theres a lttile icon key cllick on that10:37
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niciogordonjcp: right clic>propeti10:37
dotzi need some help on mounting nfs........... i specified RW for mounting a nfs.. in nfs server i've set RW in /etc/exports.. now i got 2 machines mounting a nfs server.. one is debian and one is feisty.. same settings totally..but feisty cannoot write on it and debian can10:38
dotzwhat is wrong!10:38
dotzi've been trying to troubleshoot for days10:38
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gordonjcpnicio: I don't see an option to change the style of the title10:39
dotzdo i need some kind of drivers to write in NFS for feisty?10:39
gordonjcpdotz: probably some user mapping problem10:40
Jucatogordonjcp: right-click on the desktop -> Configure Desktop -> Background -> Advanced Options button (at the right side)10:40
gordonjcpJucato: aha10:40
dotzuser mapping10:41
dotzboth machines debian and ubuntu both in root10:41
gordonjcpJucato: that's got it, thanks10:41
dotzuid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)10:41
gordonjcpI have readable titles now ;-)10:41
gordonjcpdotz: no-root-squash?10:41
dotzboth mounting using same option and same folder same permissions10:41
dotzin nfs server /etc/exports i had that added10:41
dotzand done a exportfs10:42
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berndi don't find anything about my sound problem. if i type "amixer" i get the message: "*** PULSEAUDIO: Unable to connect: Connection refused"10:46
niciodotz: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo10:47
berndonly if i'm root it works (but then there is also no sound)10:47
nhatz96guys10:47
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stdinwhois xp_killer10:47
nhatz96xp_killer:  how to setup dcpserver in XP10:48
xp_killerdotz: o_O10:48
xp_killerlol it wake him up lol10:48
stdinxp_killer: ban evasion is not a good thing to do...10:49
xp_killerstdin: ban evasion?i didnt escape i had problem with linux10:49
xp_killerno one could of help so i reinstall10:50
stdinxp_killer: your ban is still in place...10:50
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niciostdin: oh so what should i do change room?10:51
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nicioq_p10:51
niciono answer guess i stay then10:52
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dotzi've read again and again10:53
dotztried to verify using another machine10:53
dotzbut i don't get it why 3 comps with feisty can't mount10:53
dotz3 comps with debian can mount10:54
dotzall same settings10:54
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combiniocan someone help with cedega?? :: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37083/ :: don't know what error is this (?) :|11:21
combiniosomething about python... i guess ;P11:21
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combinio... no one on this channel ? :]  crap!11:23
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stdincombinio: did you look at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega11:24
stdincombinio: or ask in #cedega11:24
combiniostdin: ok i'll ask :)11:25
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codyHello all11:25
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enjoi1216kkathman bro whats kickin11:28
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enjoi1216is anybody awake in this room11:29
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enjoi1216thinks everybody in this room has gotten zombiefied11:30
enjoi1216hey stdin11:31
stdin\o11:31
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enjoi1216hey how do i go about reinstalling yahoo messenger on kopete11:31
stdindelete the account and recreate it?11:31
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enjoi1216well walk me through it because i have taken linux before but i'm not certain of what to do because i am more of a hands on step by stop person11:32
enjoi1216stop = step11:33
enjoi1216are you there11:33
enjoi1216?11:33
stdinopen kopete, go to settings > configure > accounts and remove it11:33
stdinthen add a new one11:33
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enjoi1216ok hang on let me try it and see if it works11:34
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_4strOhi there11:36
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enjoi1216ok stdin now heres another problem i'm contending with11:36
stdinyep?11:37
enjoi1216ok like i have a myspace profile like a myspace account because i have friends ther and enjoy talking to all my friends there11:37
dotzwhat is needed for NFS client?11:37
dotzwhat packages11:37
dotzin order for it to able to write11:38
combiniohow to figure out do i have 3d acceleration on my Radeon 9600 ?11:38
enjoi1216anyway is ther anyway i can confifure my browser to get it to where i can log into my myspace account11:38
combiniocuz Direct Rendering: YES, but acceleration, not sure11:38
stdinenjoi1216: you cant?11:38
stdincombinio: you do if it has "yes"11:39
combiniobut in cedega - Rendering and acceleration are two different things :/11:39
combinioand rendering - YES, but 3d - NO :/11:39
combiniostrange...11:39
stdinenjoi1216: or why cant you login, rather?11:39
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enjoi1216well see heres the thing like i have to get on my Windows XP machine just to log in because Firefox or Konquerer isn't letting me log inte my myspace account11:39
combiniostdin: is there some command ?11:39
enjoi1216yeah thats what i'm getting at11:40
enjoi1216i mean is there anything i can do about that11:40
stdincombinio: you may need to use xgl to use 3d acceleration11:40
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stdinenjoi1216: what do you mean it's not letting you? what happens?11:41
combiniooh i see...11:41
combinioso i'm not gonna be involved in xgl.. i dislike it :)11:41
enjoi1216ok like when i go http;//www.myspace.com11:41
combiniostdin: thx for info anyway :)11:41
enjoi1216and then i go to log in11:41
enjoi1216like i punch in my user name and password11:42
enjoi1216and then i klik sign in11:42
enjoi1216then it tries to flag me like saying lost your password11:43
enjoi1216and i know that i have entered the right username and password11:43
enjoi1216because i have even slowed down my typing and looked down at the keyboard while i'm typing to make sure the password that i am entering is correct11:43
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enjoi1216but it won't let me sign in through either browser period11:44
enjoi1216and i don't understand that11:44
enjoi1216unless i need to go into the browsers and delete the cookies11:44
enjoi1216but see stdin i doubt that is going to help anything11:45
enjoi1216i mean what can you tell me11:45
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enjoi1216because this has me confused11:45
enjoi1216stdin are you there11:46
stdinenjoi1216: i just created an account, works fine here, on both browsers11:46
enjoi1216well do i need to make the browser save my password11:47
enjoi1216see because i told it not to11:47
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stdinenjoi1216: in firefox, Edit > preferences > security > exceptions (under Passwords)11:49
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enjoi1216ok let me try it again11:51
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enjoi1216stdin thats not working worth a shit11:52
stdin!language11:52
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.11:52
enjoi1216ok i'm sorry11:53
enjoi1216does the government watch this channel11:53
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SlimeyPeteyes.11:53
enjoi1216ok anyway stdin what can i do11:53
stdinnot sure, it's all working here when I try11:54
enjoi1216does it work through K11:54
enjoi1216when you use it11:55
enjoi1216Konquerer11:55
stdinyep11:55
kumamotoenjoi1216: the govt thing funny11:56
enjoi1216well Kuma11:56
enjoi1216it just bothers me because when i had the linux mandrake loaded it worked fine11:56
enjoi1216now i get my new Kubuntu program and it doesn't want to work for nothing11:57
SlimeyPetethat's Linux for ya.11:57
enjoi1216i mean i don't know if i should format my harddrive and reload linux or not11:57
enjoi1216because everybody else is getting myspace to work11:57
SlimeyPetetry a different web browser?11:58
werson konqueror, I accidentally removed the File, Edit, Settings, etc. menus. How do I get them back?11:58
enjoi1216i have the only other alternative you can use is firefox11:58
llutzwers ctrl-m11:59
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wersgot that!11:59
enjoi1216i mean what else cani do pete11:59
wersthanks llutz!11:59
enjoi1216i mean do i just need to blow my comp away and reload linux11:59
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SlimeyPeteenjoi1216: opera12:00
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pillowpantshi there, how do you enable more repositories?12:01
enjoi1216opera i dont' get it i'm trying to find out12:01
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rixxonI recall some application for generating graphical front ends for textual applications on the fly, any one know the name of this program?12:01
pillowpantsfor instance, i did an apt-cache search audacious, and it came up empty12:01
enjoi1216because this is supposed to be a linux support line12:01
stdin!opera12:01
ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser12:01
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SlimeyPete!universe | pillowpants12:01
ubotupillowpants: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu12:01
pillowpantsthanks12:02
pillowpantsare there any 3rd party repositores for ubuntu?12:02
pillowpantslike in gentoo or slackware?12:02
stdin!source-o-matic | pillowpants12:03
ubotupillowpants: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic12:03
enjoi1216ok i klikws rhw link and i'm downloading it right now12:03
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llutzpillowpants: audacious is in universe12:05
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dotzheyyyy12:06
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dotz:)_ i found out why i cannot write on nfs already.. not sure if it is a bug12:06
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dotzin my fstab12:07
dotzcan i share with u all?12:07
dotzif i put12:07
dotz192.168.2.201:/video/share /mnt/nfs/share nfs rw,defaults 0 012:07
dotz192.168.2.201:/video/data /mnt/nfs/data/ nfs ro,defaults 0 012:07
dotzthen /mnt/nfs/share can write12:07
dotzif i put 192.168.2.201:/video/data /mnt/nfs/data/ nfs ro,defaults 0 0 first infront of 192.168.2.201:/video/share /mnt/nfs/share nfs rw,defaults 0 012:08
dotzthen /mnt/nfs/share cannot write12:08
dotzsequence of mounting?12:08
dotzro overwrite rw?12:08
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stdinmaybe, look it up on launchpad12:08
dotzwhat's a lanuch pad?12:09
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dotzhaha12:09
dotzi took so much time to figure this out..zz12:09
stdinlaunchpad is what's used (amongst other things) to track bugs in ubuntu (and other projects)12:10
stdinhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/12:10
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jhutchinsdotz: I notice a slight difference in the format of the lines.12:11
llutzdotz: try ../data instead of .../data/12:11
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dotzwithout the '/'?12:12
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llutzdotz: shouldn't make a difference but try it12:12
dotzright..tried without '/' i think its the same12:13
dotzro overwrite rw when you next mount it12:13
dotzthink it will follow ro12:13
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pillowpantshow would i make xterm my default shell, and not konsole?12:14
Jucatopillowpants: System Settings -> Default Applications -> Terminal Emulator12:15
Q-collectiveHey all. When I try to start wpa_supplicant from the kwlan menu, it errors, saying that it was unable to start wpa_supplicant. Can anyone help me out?12:15
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mrtimdogHi, is this the place to ask about kubuntu gutsy and compiz?12:15
pillowpantsJucato: i dont see a default applications option12:16
kumamotoQ-collective: I bet knetworkmanager can help u there12:16
stdinmrtimdog: no, #ubuntu+1 is12:16
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Jucatopillowpants: what version of Kubuntu are you running?12:16
mrtimdogstdin: ok :)12:16
pillowpantsdapper12:16
Jucatoaah12:16
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Q-collectivekumamoto: knetworkmanager couldn't even handle wpa, or at least I couldn't find any options there12:16
JucatoSystem Settings -> Personal I think12:16
Jucatopillowpants: or System Settings -> KDE Components.not exactly sure. but it's in there12:17
dotzso is this a bug?12:17
stdindotz: look it up on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ if it's not there, report it12:18
dotzoooh ok! =)12:18
pillowpantsJucato: thanks, found it12:19
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DocTomoeduring installation, my keyboard/Mouse (both usb) won't work the moment gnome starts up. what can I do?12:19
DocTomoe(both do fine on my other machine)12:20
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pillowpantswhat versions of ubuntu are you guys running?12:27
pillowpantsany reason i should stick with dapper?12:27
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kumamotoQ-collective: I use knetworkmanager with wpa212:29
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kumamotojust make sure wpasupplicant is installed if it hasn't been and if using knetworkmanager then uninstall kwlan12:31
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Q-collectivekumamoto: ok, I installed knetworkmanager, now what do I do? :>12:34
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thx1137anyone know what the equivilant of Sessions in Gnome is in KDE?12:43
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chimaerathx1137: please elaborate12:43
thx1137in gnome, there's something called "Sessions" that lets you edit & add startup items.  Was wondering if KDE had something similar12:44
chimaerawell, there's teh service & sessoin manager within kcontrol12:45
thx1137oh, where is that located? (e.g. "Sessions" is in System>Preferences>Sessions)12:46
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Jucato!autostart | thx113712:46
ubotuthx1137: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.12:46
Jucatothx1137: by default, KDE saves the session when you logout and restores it when you login12:47
Jucatoall you need is to leave open the app you want to be restarted when you login12:47
thx1137ok, thanks, was going to relay to someone, but they left.. but good to know, thanks for the info12:49
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kumamotoQ-collective: go to the menu under internet and click on it12:59
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kumamotoQ-collective: it will then show up in the taskbar and it will detect all wireless ssids in the area then pick yours01:00
Q-collectiveit doesn't see any wireless ssid's01:01
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kumamotoit does tend to store the wpa keys in kdewallet so once u enter the wpa key it will only ask for the kdewallet password01:01
kumamotoQ-collective: no ssids01:01
kumamotohmm weird01:02
Q-collectiveindeed01:02
Q-collectivewlassistant does see the ssid's01:02
Q-collectivebut can't connect :)01:02
jhutchinsFeedback on wireless handshaking is pretty much nonexistant, it's hard to troubleshoot.01:03
kumamotohave u installed ndiswrapper?01:03
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jhutchinskumamoto: If his drivers weren't working he wouldn't see the AP.01:04
kumamotoah just assumed he had drivers working01:04
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jhutchinsQ-collective: If you have full control of the AP, try changing the security settings, leaving it open for instance.01:05
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Q-collectivesadly, I don't01:05
jhutchinsThere are a lot of devices that currently have problems due to different formats for entering/storing keys.01:05
kumamotoor could have the APs ssid turned off01:05
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Q-collectiveI don't have any access to the AP :)01:06
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pillowpantshow do you make a .sh file executable?01:06
jhutchinsQ-collective: How did you enter the key?01:06
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jhutchinspillowpants: I use chmod +x or just  execute it with bash/dash.01:06
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Q-collectivejhutchins: I don't even get that far, knetworkmanager just doesn't see the ssid's and wlassistant can't handle WPA or something (at least it keeps whining about entering a WEP which is not needed).01:08
jhutchinsQ-collective: ok, use the console tools then.01:08
Q-collectivejhutchins: I'm completely new with wpa_supplicant, any simple howto's for that?01:10
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kumamotoQ-collective: ndiswrapper, wpa_supplicant & knetworkmanager should be installed01:11
Q-collectivethey are01:11
kumamotoit should work with no issue01:11
Q-collectivethe key word here is "should" :)01:11
kumamotodrivers for the wireless card installed01:11
jhutchinsQ-collective: None that i know of, it's currently outrunning the documentation.  we do have this:01:11
Q-collectivethe card works fine01:11
jhutchins!wireless | Q-collective01:11
ubotuQ-collective: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:11
Q-collectiveat home I have access, no trouble01:11
kumamotoQ-collective: try http://avasarala.blogspot.com/2006/08/experience-installing-and-running.html01:11
Q-collectivethx01:12
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pillowpantswhen i type 'glx-gears' its says its not there01:15
pillowpantswhat package is that a part of?01:15
_4strOpillowpants: try with glxgears01:17
thoreauputic$ dlocate glxgears mesa-utils:01:17
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thoreauputicpillowpants: it's in mesa-utils01:17
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Q-collectiveis there not a possibility that some kde app just autmagically connects to the strongest AP?01:18
pillowpantsah, _4str0, bravo, it was glxgears01:18
pillowpantswithout the hyphen01:18
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_4strO^^01:18
jhutchinsQ-collective: Read the docs, use the command line utils if necessary.01:19
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Q-collectivesigh, I don't want to read a dozen docs, try stuff for hours and learn a new cli application01:20
Q-collectiveI just want it to work01:20
Q-collectivehence why I chose for kubuntu01:20
jhutchinsRun windows.01:20
jhutchinsNext.01:20
chimaera^^01:20
Q-collectivelol, I said I want it to work01:20
Q-collectiveso windows is not an option01:20
Q-collective;)01:20
_4strOwhat is AP ?01:21
Q-collectiveaccess point01:21
_4strOhaok :p01:21
chimaerawell, Q-collective, wireless and linux can be a bitch, depending which hardware you are using, so probably there isn't an easy way around standing knee-deep in some docs.. sorry.01:21
pillowpantsthanks for the help, im off01:21
pillowpantssee ya01:21
Q-collectivesigh :)01:22
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Q-collectiveoh well01:22
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Q-collectivewhat I was wondering is, is there a roaming feature?01:23
Q-collectiveor is that a hardware feature only?01:23
chimaerai also found that wpa is difficult, again, depending on the card/driver you're using. check the site of wpa_sup, there'S plenty of docs for lots of distributions.01:23
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Q-collectivethx, willdo01:24
Faderhvalhello guys :) im having some trouble running WoW the graphics are very laggy and the cursor dosent show proper anyone got some experience with wow on kubuntu fiesty 7.04 og have an idea to what i can do??01:25
gans20|malchikcould you guys recommend any other RSS readers for KDE than akregator?01:26
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_4strOFaderhval: you should have a look on cedega website or irc channel01:26
chimaerano, wine is sufficient for running wow, no need for cedega.01:27
chimaeracheck http://gentoo-wiki.com/index.php?title=HOWTO_Install_and_update_World_Of_Warcraft_with_wine01:27
chimaeramost things apply to any distro.01:27
Faderhvalchimaera: thanks i'll have a look01:28
powrwhere to find driver for epson stylus photo 1270?01:29
stdingans20|malchik: kitty is another aggregator01:29
stdin!printers | powr01:29
ubotupowr: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows01:29
chimaera!driver01:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about driver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:29
Q-collectivehmm, I think I'll just install Gentoo instead. These "make it simple" distro's just create too much fuzz if something doesn't work imho.01:29
Q-collectivebut oh well01:29
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jhutchinsQ-collective: Yeah, that'll really hurt our feelings, teach us a lesson.01:30
chimaeraQ-collective: ah, i don't think gentoo will make it any easier, but well, off you go ;)01:30
powrstdin: tnx01:30
Q-collectivejhutchins: I'm not teaching you any lesson, don't be such a dick to people :\01:31
chimaeraactually, i have to agree.01:31
jhutchinsWe're all just other users here.  You don't want to do the homework, don't complain that stuff doesn't work.01:31
gans20|malchikthanks stdin01:31
Q-collectivejhutchins: that's my point, but I guess you missed it, glad that we agree though01:32
jhutchinsNo other distro has as much current doccumentation that's as easy to find.01:32
chimaerathat'S simply not true01:33
jhutchinschimaera: Example/01:33
jhutchins?01:33
chimaeragentoo has by far one of the best supporting communities with tons of documentation.01:33
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jhutchinsHah.  Fine.01:33
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jhutchinsTrue, you will almost always be directed to the master doc index if you have a problem with gentoo.01:34
chimaerawell, i don't use gentoo, but most of their docs and howtos apply to any otehr distro as well, so i'm auite happy those guys are out there.01:34
jhutchinsI find the ubuntu docs more accessible myself.01:35
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jhutchinsThe gentoo docs are good, if you know what you need to find in the first place, and know that the doc exists and where it is.01:35
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chimaeracan't really say that. i'm using (k)ubuntu for two years now, afer spending a long time with debian. and while the distro itself is very comfortable, the community and docs are rather, well, it might be me, i just don't get along with it.01:36
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jhutchinsI also feel like ubuntu does a better job of getting updates posted where you can find them when things changed.01:37
chimaeramight be true, i don't know about that.01:37
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jhutchinsI've been maintaining some obsolete gentoo boxes for several years, and it's hard to stay "in channel" well enough to know what you need to know to keep it running.  If you fall behind, you get ridiculed.01:38
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jhutchinsQ-collective: Sorry if you feel I'm being a dick, by the way, but I don't know enough about your particular setup to tell you anything more specific.01:39
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jhutchinsQ-collective: It's most likely a formatting error on the keys, like I said before.  Easiest to fix with the cli interface.01:40
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jhutchinsFor what it's worth, I've had the same problem with Windows and ended up having to replace hardware to get it working.01:40
chimaerai think that's is more an issue because of the philosophy of gentoo. it is aimed at other people that ubuntu. is you want total control, well, you can have it. but for the cost of time you have to spend to maintain it and keep up with development. while you have that power in any distro, ubuntu doesn't require you to do.01:41
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jhutchinsKeeping up with development is the tough part for a non-developer, I think.01:41
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chimaerai don't meant the develpment of every app, but of the whole system. how does startup work? where are thi init skripts? what changes are there regarding hotplug and so on. with gentoo, you have to keep up with that. also with debian, or with slack. with ubuntu, suse, fedore and the like, you don't.01:43
chimaerathose are the black-boxes of linux-distos. you can open them and look in, but you don't have to.01:43
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Faderhvalquick question how do i shutdown x ?02:02
jhutchinsFaderhval: You want to kill it or just restart?02:02
Faderhvalkill i think i need to install my nvidia driver.02:03
stdin!nvidia | Faderhval02:03
ubotuFaderhval: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:03
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lordofthepigsHello, How can I chose the columns diplayed in Konqueror detailed list view?02:04
lordofthepigsFor some reason, my "last modified" column is gone02:04
lordofthepigsand I have no idea how I did that02:04
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lordofthepigsI looked around, but I can't find where I can add it back to the view02:05
jhutchinsFaderhval: basically  sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop02:05
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Faderhvalthanks02:05
Jucatolordofthepigs: View menu -> Show Details ->02:06
lordofthepigsOh...02:08
lordofthepigsthanks Jucato02:09
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Faderhval!nvidia02:20
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:21
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Faderhvalhey guys following the guide for nvidia drivers on ubuntu... but how do i know whick Restricted linux moduels i need for my kernel?02:25
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bongfrogany idea why when I run Kubuntu on my lcd tv   all of the fonts are displayed so big it is unusable???02:30
bongfrogdriving me nuts02:31
chimaerabongfrog:  well, what vga-card do you use? which resolution is set? how did you connect the pc to the tv?02:32
chimaeraFaderhval: dpkg should handle that by itself.02:32
stdinFaderhval: just run "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)"02:32
jhutchinsbongfrog: Probably because most TV's are < 640x480 resolution02:32
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chimaerajhutchins: nout lcd tvs02:33
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jhutchinsbongfrog: NTSC is 720 x 48602:33
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bongfrogit is the onboard of a dell 3000 i810 intel i think.....    this happons at all resolution i choose..  other distors (fedora) worked fine at 1200 768 (or the one that is close to that)  and it is connected via vga...02:33
bongfrogumm coffee02:34
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chimaerai once had such a problem with my tft until i set the DisplaySize parameter within xorg.conf correctly.02:34
bongfrogeven when I boot the live kubuntu 7.04   same results.   If i hook up another monitor all it well02:35
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bongfrogDisplaySize??   I will look at that02:35
judgenHow do i resize a partition on the primary hard drive?02:35
bongfroger all is well02:35
chimaerajudgen: use a live-cd to resize it.02:35
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judgenchimaera: its not the partition where kubuntu resides. Shouldnt i be able to do it from within kubuntu then?02:37
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bongfrogchimaera do you remember what section the DisplaySize parameter is in??02:37
chimaerajudgen: probably, i would opt for teh live-cd (kubuntu-install-cd should do the trick) anyway.02:37
judgenchimaera: i dont have one.02:37
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judgenand no empty cd either02:38
chimaerabongfrog: Section "Monitor"02:38
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chimaerajudgen: well then, try using (qt)parted then from the installation. but create soem kind of backup, will you? ;)02:38
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chimaerabongfrog: e.g.  DisplaySize    519 324   .. the size is actually given in mm!02:40
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bongfrogchimaera: I found it in the man pages.    Not sure if I have a metric ruler that big.    Grin02:40
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bongfrogchimaera:  Thanks for the point....02:41
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chimaerabongfrog: you're welcome.02:41
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Sevenhillhi there02:44
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Sevenhilldo you have any information about when it might be released the tribe 6 ?02:45
Sevenhill?02:45
chimaeramost of teh time, no answer means noone has any idea. not writing anything then saves time and traffic.02:46
jhutchinsSevenhill: #ubuntu+1 or the web pages.02:46
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kkathmanmoin all :)02:56
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judgenthe clock is 15 over here =)02:59
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judgenok im off to dinnerparty.02:59
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sami_hello03:00
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MGis it cold there yet?03:00
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Lacrymologyanyone here from israel, or that writes in hebrew, or Yiddish, or knows how to make kubuntu do it?03:02
BluesKaj!il | Lacrymology03:03
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david_hi03:09
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BluesKajI'm a bit puzzled by Thunderbird 2.0 ...it doesn't launch URL links when clicked on. I was checking the about cofig editor, but there doesn't seem to be a "launch browser "setting anywhere in the list ...any ideas ?03:10
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Blindetcant get ALi soundcard work. no mixer installed it says03:11
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BluesKajBlindet, sudo apt-get install kmix03:12
MGBlindet: let us know how that works out03:14
Blindetokay i will03:14
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BluesKajBlindet, check your k-menu/system settings/sound system03:15
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BluesKajkmix is part of the kubuntu-desktop , it should already be installed03:16
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Blindetkmix is already installed03:17
Blindetand what do i check from kmenu/system settings/sound system03:18
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MGyou are probably going to need some sort of boot command line parameter03:21
Blindet:o03:21
BluesKajBlindet, uhhm , make sure it's enabled and choose hardware ALSA03:21
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MGwhat does dmesg say about sound cards at boot time03:24
MG?03:24
Blindet?03:24
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MGif your computer has not been running for too long, you can run dmesg from a command line and it will tell you the state of detected hardware03:25
Blindetokay03:26
MGit it has been running for too long the boot time messages will be gone03:26
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sPiTeFuLL!kde03:33
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aguitelanyone know this error in totem :No accelerated IMDCT transform found03:33
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MGThe IMDCT transform is related to the ac3 playback. On linux, you need to compile liba52 with djbfft03:37
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MGper google03:37
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Lacrymologywhat the hell03:41
combiniohow to change KDM theme? I downloaded new themes *.tar.gz but can't install them :/03:42
LacrymologyI get prompted with the "Run as root" dialog, enter my password and get a "conversation with su failed"03:42
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combinio!kdmtheme03:42
kumamotocombinio: you will have to configure and install them like installing an app from source03:43
combiniokumamoto: some more clues, please ? :)03:43
kumamoto./configure --prefix=/usr something like that depending on the developer03:43
combiniokumamoto: but there is only that archiwum03:44
combinio*archive03:44
kumamotocheck the README for more clues but is how I got new themes on mine laptop03:44
MG!theme03:45
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BlindetMG i got that dmesg03:45
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MetaMorfoziSkumamoto > where you get this information?03:45
Blindet[ 27.110178]  ALI15X3: IDE controller at PCI slot 0000:00:0e.03:45
Blindet[ 27.110207]  ALI15X3: chipset revision 19903:46
MetaMorfoziSKdm themes isn't need configure/build, etc.03:46
Blindet[ 27.110209]  ALI15X3: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later03:46
Blindet[ 27.110221]  ide0: BM-DMA at 0xff00-0xff07, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pi03:46
Blindet[ 27.110233]  ide1: BM-DMA at 0xff08-0xff0f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DM03:46
Jucato!paste | Blindet03:46
MetaMorfoziSThe only need is to set up correct the /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc file (The Theme=xxx parameter)03:46
Jucatohm... bot's down..03:46
MetaMorfoziSo rinstall kdm-theme package03:46
Blindethmh.03:46
Blindetso, tell me site or something..03:47
MetaMorfoziSthat is a kcontrol module and does this automatically, and from gui.03:47
Jucatokumamoto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu03:47
Jucatosee the KDM section03:47
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combinioi've install KDMtheme already03:47
combiniobut must be launched with admin rights... and there is no admin mode button anywhere :/03:48
Jucatocombinio: Alt+F2, "kcontrol", go to System Administration -> KDM Theme Manager03:48
BluesKajBlindet,  lspci | grep audio , to find your soundcard03:48
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JucatoBlindet: just don't paste multiple lines (more than 2) in here. use the pastebin link in the /topic to do that03:49
combinioJucato: u're the one! thanks a lot :)03:49
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HA|Sparkhi! can anyone tell me how i connect to my wlan using the console. with iwconfig i found my wlan adapter, searched for avaiable networks but don't know how to connect to one of them..03:49
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kumamotoJucato: u r right for some reason I was thinking KDE themes and KDM sorry there combinio03:50
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combiniokumamoto: ok - thanks for u too :)03:51
peter_Anyone solved the non-working plasma desktop problem with the KDE4 beta 2 packages yet?03:51
Blindethttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37108/03:51
Jucatokumamoto: heh no worries. so many people get that wrong, so you're in good company :)03:51
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BlindetMG, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37108/03:52
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MGBlindet, yep ther's yep problem.03:57
MGyer, that is03:57
Blindetooo...kay03:57
MGchuckle03:58
Blindetand, how do i fix it? :D03:58
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MGtry modprobe snd-ali5451 just to see what happens04:01
MGMG, are you running kubuntu feisty ?04:02
MGBlindet, that is04:02
MGi forgot i'm MG today04:03
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MGit gets confusing sometimes04:03
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BluesKajBlindet, is that a 5.1 or more  channel sound system04:04
BluesKaj?04:04
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Blindetno, its just normal sound card04:05
Blindetno flashy things like 5.104:05
BluesKajok04:05
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BluesKajALi is a company I've not heard of04:06
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MGthat snd-ali5451 is the only ali module that i find in feisty /lib/module/*04:06
MGmodules, that is04:06
Blindetwrote it, and nothing happened04:06
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MGcheck dmestg04:07
MGdmesg, that is04:07
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MG"nothing happened" it the correct response for a successfully inserted module04:08
MGis, that is04:08
BluesKajBlindet, I have to ask the obvious question ,have you done a search for linux drivers04:08
paradix86qualcuno che parla italiano?04:08
MGyou dont have to look at all of the dmesg output, just the end04:08
jhutchinsMG: Perhaps suggest the -v option to avoid confusinon.04:10
jhutchinsMG: (when suggesting modprobes)04:10
Blindethttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37111/04:10
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Blindet......04:11
Blindethttp://list.driverguide.com/list/LINUX/company57/index.html04:11
Blindetdamn04:11
Blindetcould those be any help04:11
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MGrun kmix and see if you have a mixer now04:15
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BluesKaj Blindet , http://www.cmediadrivers.info/driver/Linux/Ac97/cmaudio-070.tar.bz204:15
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MGi suspect that that driver is the same one that you just installed the module for04:16
Blindetokay04:16
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MGis it cold in Finland?04:17
Blindetchilly, still +3'c04:17
Blindetits cold when it reaches -2804:17
BluesKaj<---was born in Kaavi Finland04:18
MGwe are getting just a little chilly now that we are getting in the low 60F's at night04:18
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genii0 to -7 C isn't horrible. It's when it starts going to -15 and below04:19
geniiWindchill etc04:20
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BluesKajwas 12C/55F here last nite ...not really cool yet04:20
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BluesKajyup,genii , but that damp Lake Ontario wind penetrates04:21
billytwowillyanyone else having hotmail time out when you try to connect in all linux browsers, but working fine in windows on the same machine?04:21
BluesKajppl still use hotmail ?  ;)04:22
MetaMorfoziSppl can be stupid:)04:23
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Blindetppl still use email ? ;)04:23
Blindeti moved on the letters, they are cool04:23
BluesKajnot stupid MetaMorfoziS , just not very aware04:23
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ksivajiis there any command to dependency of  a package04:24
ksivajiis there any command to find *dependency of  a package04:24
geniibillytwowilly: Actually I've noticed at one of our computer labs, withing windoze firefox is working for hotmail but IE6 is not04:24
BluesKajBlindet, did yoy see my post for the audio drivers ?04:24
geniiWhich is totally wierd04:24
Blindetno ni didnt : D04:24
Blindetsorry04:24
Jucatoksivaji: apt-cache depends <package>04:24
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BluesKaj Blindet , http://www.cmediadrivers.info/driver/Linux/Ac97/cmaudio-070.tar.bz204:25
Jucatoksivaji: or do you mean a .deb package you downloaded from somewhere?04:25
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ksivajiyes04:25
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ksivaji Jucato : yes04:25
Jucatono luck... you have to manually try it out04:26
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Zaffa_CakesHey04:26
Jucatoksivaji: or use the program called gdebi04:26
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MGBlindet,  is there any chance that you could try the gutsy live cd or some other more recent distro?04:26
ksivajiJucato what it wil do ?04:26
Jucatobut I think that's going to install some gnome stuff (the kde version doesn't arrive until gutsy)04:26
Jucatoksivaji: manually install the .deb package. it will complain if dependencies aren't met and tell you what's missing04:27
BluesKajMG, I think he has the right drivers now04:27
billytwowillygenii: can you get on hotmail in linux now? I'm weirded out a bit because I tried this from school and home with different computers and got the same result..04:27
MGcool04:27
ksivajiJucato ok04:27
BluesKajdunno anyone with a hotmail acct04:27
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Zaffa_CakesAnyone has time to help me setup kubuntu on a macbook?04:28
peter_Anyone solved the non-working plasma desktop problem with the KDE4 beta 2 packages yet?04:28
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billytwowillyjust type in www.hotmail.com ... it's not failing at the login, it's failing to load the page at all.04:28
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poison--Zaffa_cakes , whats the problem04:29
BluesKajhotmail is MS , what does a linux user expect ? :)04:29
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Jucatohotmail works fine here for me in Konqueror04:30
BluesKajthe hotmail  login page comes up in FF04:30
Zaffa_Cakespoison i have a few :P mainly the keyboard, i have danish layout and also the wifi, keep getting errors when trying to install it04:30
poison--zaffa_cakes , whats the wlan brand and model04:31
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BlindetMG, maybe i could, but first i wanna try it with this.04:32
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Zaffa_Cakesatheros but dont know what model poison04:34
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Murchadh`A great link to useful commands - http://blog.lxpages.com/ultimate_network.html04:34
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Zaffa_Cakespoisin> i think its the newest actually, brand new macbook with N-network04:34
poison--not helpfull04:34
poison--lmao04:34
MGcool, the only reason i suggest a later version is the discrepancy in model numbers04:35
Zaffa_Cakeshmm where do i find out then?04:35
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geniibillytwowilly: Let me try. 1 minute or so04:35
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Zaffa_Cakesdont laugh at the noobs ill just crawl back to windows :p04:36
poison--eheheh04:36
poison--did u try madwifi yet04:36
Zaffa_Cakesyea its the one that gives me errors when i try to install it04:36
Blindetdriver that BluesKaj recommended... im not sure who to install it04:36
poison--do u have all te latest packages04:36
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poison--headers, restricted n stuff04:37
TeSiShola queria saber un canal de Kubuntu en espaol04:37
TeSiSgracias04:37
Zaffa_Cakesyup04:37
Zaffa_Cakesi think04:37
Zaffa_Cakesi downloaded the lastest from madwifi.org04:37
JuJuBee!sp > TeSis04:37
geniiBah need to re-affirm my hotmail, haven't logged in in 90 days etc etc04:37
JuJuBee!es > TeSiS04:38
JucatoTeSiS: #kubuntu-es or #ubuntu-es04:38
JucatoJuJuBee: bot's down04:38
JuJuBeeK04:38
poison--zaffa, get libasound2_1.0.13-1ubuntu5_i386.deb and libasound2-dev_1.0.13-1ubuntu5_i386.deb04:38
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lordofthepigsTeSiS: #ubunut-es04:39
lordofthepigssorry: ubuntu-es04:39
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TeSiSok04:40
TeSiSgracias04:40
Zaffa_Cakeshmm where do i get them?04:40
geniibillytwowilly: Hotmail works fine wirth my Firefox, I have 2.0.0.6 and Sun Java04:41
poison--tried google04:41
poison--u ight get em from sourceforge too04:41
poison--might04:41
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BluesKajthunderbird email links don't work04:42
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BluesKajswitched back to kamil04:42
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BluesKajkmail04:42
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billytwowillygenii: lame, then maybe it's a gutsy thing...04:42
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geniibillytwowilly: Perhaps. This is a Feisty box04:43
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Zaffa_Cakespoison i dont have any rightclick hehe its really annoying04:44
Zaffa_Cakeswhen i try to download the file it opens in kate?04:45
Jucatobillytwowilly: www.hotmail.com front page loads fine in Konqueror. feisty and gutsy04:46
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Jucatoloads in firefox feisty too04:46
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poison--anyone had any issue with an ASUS M2N, sound dont seems to work04:46
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BluesKajmy ISP has been MS'd too , I'm surprised since it's a division of Bell04:47
prudvihi04:47
prudvii have problem04:47
prudviwith emerald instalation04:47
prudvican some one help me out pls04:47
Jucatobillytwowilly: completely works... konqueror and firefox, feisty and gutsy..04:47
Jucato!compiz | prudvi04:47
Jucatobah!! I forgot...04:48
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Jucatoprudvi: #ubuntu-effects for compiz and beryl help04:48
prudviunresolvable dependancies'04:48
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geniiMG: they can make nice coffee-warmer plates04:51
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Jucatolol04:51
MGcurrently 979KBs04:51
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MGthat's hot04:52
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cbtis155hola04:59
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MGbien venidos05:00
cbtis155alguien abla espaol05:01
cbtis155buen dia mg05:02
MGno habla espanol senor05:02
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BluesKaj!es | cbtis15505:05
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BluesKajcbtis155, /join #kubuntu-es05:07
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geniiback05:17
geniiDamn wanted to thank jucato but he left now :(05:18
ceehi, i have my fglrx module loaded(kubuntu gutsy), and my laptop hang when i try to do a suspend. Anyone know why?05:18
ceeati x140005:18
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geniicee: Suspend in gutsy is also messed up for me but i am using an Nvidia 7600GT05:20
ceehm, okai.. i had the same problem with feisty05:20
ceebut it works if i unload the fglrx module05:21
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MGBlindet, don't bother trying gutsy live, it does not specifically have a ali5455 driver05:24
BlindetMG, and i cant get it to work on feisty either..05:24
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geniicee: No idea then05:25
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geniicee: May be more who know of it in #ubuntu+1 or #kubuntu-devel05:25
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ceg23312hey I a have quick question05:28
ceg23312I am having problems with mounting a usb thumb drive without having root access05:28
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ceg23312any thoughts?05:28
nosrednaekimHey everyone!!05:29
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ceg23312hey there nosrednaekim05:29
JuJuBeewhat do I install for wav support ?05:29
ceg23312what kind of wav support are you looking for?05:30
nosrednaekimceg23312: use the disk and filesystems wizard05:30
JuJuBeeAudio05:30
ceg23312just to play05:30
JuJuBeeYes05:30
ceg23312or record05:30
JuJuBeeplay05:30
ceg23312or both05:30
ceg23312well I would say to download xmms and try that05:30
JuJuBeeI normally use Amarok for audio, it does not support wav by default.  Can I add it?05:31
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ceg23312hmm I am not sure... I know that with xmms you can use just about all the formats, but best bet to check Amarok's site05:32
genii!info wavpack05:32
geniibah no bot05:32
geniifrom apt-cache: wavpack - an audio codec (lossy and lossless) - encoder and decoder05:32
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BluesKajJuJuBee, what do you mean amarok doesn't support waav by default ?05:34
BluesKajwav05:34
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JuJuBeeI downloaded a wav file and it said there was no codec installed.05:34
BluesKajwhat said ?05:35
JuJuBeeAmarok05:35
nosrednaekimthats odd...05:35
JuJuBeeWhen I tried to drag and drop into amarok.05:35
gwinnsomebody from Russia?05:35
nosrednaekimJuJuBee: try installing "libxine-extracodecs"05:35
BluesKajvery odd , unless the file isn't really a wav file05:35
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JuJuBeeThink it is already installed, I have mp3 support.05:35
JuJuBeeHmmm, never thought of that.05:36
BluesKajtry a cd05:36
JuJuBeeI will look into that first.05:36
JuJuBeeDon't have one, who uses CD's anymore... hehe,05:36
ceg23312hmm the device manager is showing my usb drive but is not letting me mount it05:36
BluesKajppl with car cd palyers and real audio systems05:37
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poison--jujubee, try apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg05:37
BluesKajnot some crappy lil digital player05:37
gwinnhello everybody, i'm looking someone who can tell about bootsplash changing (sorry for my english, i'm from russia)05:38
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MGwhat is it changing to?05:39
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gwinnhm, i'm just want to change my boot screen05:39
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BluesKajgwin , system settings/spalsh screen05:40
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BluesKajsplash05:40
gwinnno no, when system boot, that screen05:40
BluesKajyou mean grub ?05:41
gwinnafter that05:41
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BluesKajthat's the one05:41
ceg23312hey gwinn, I know that this is off topic, but I was wondering if there is cryllic type chats?05:41
gwinnwhy not? :)05:42
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ceg23312I haven't thought of the idea until just a second ago05:42
ceg23312lol05:42
gwinndamn, i'm understand badly :(05:43
ceg23312I am taking Russian 101 at my university this term, and its such a great language05:43
BluesKajgwinn, I know what you mean but , why .. it only lasts for a few secs05:44
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gwinnsome practice with Kubuntu, i'm take it 2 weeks ago, so i'm noob :)05:45
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gwinni'm work with linux before, but remote, under windows(uses ssh, scp), now i'm install Kubuntu onto my laptop, and i'm got some things that i can't to do05:47
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BluesKajgwinn, well then i think worrying about the bootsplash is not important  :)05:48
volnis kubuntu support usb 2.0?05:48
gwinnyou now, i'm can to config mysql, apache, and some system things, but i'm feel comfort then i'm control system totaly.05:50
MGkubuntu supports usb 2.005:50
gwinn:)05:50
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kekstyleslt05:50
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volnMG how can i check this?05:52
MGplug in a usb 2.0 device,  check dmesg output, send a large file to the devices and check how long it takes then calculate the speed05:53
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MGdevice, that is05:54
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volnMG i'm noticed that win xp transfer files faster...05:54
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MGvoln, be careful with that.  win xp may be reporting the transfer finished before it actually is.  if you unplug the device before the transfer is finished, the copy of the file on the device will be truncated05:56
MG.05:56
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MG[ 1715.156000]  usb 3-6: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 505:58
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volnMG but i  have 2.005:58
MGUSB 2.0-compatible device (ehci_hcd)05:58
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MG2.0 is standard05:59
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MGkubuntu supports usb 2.006:00
volnMG thanks for info, i need a more deep test for this06:00
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BluesKajvoln, i don06:01
BluesKajthink xp is faster ...the reverse is true on my pc06:01
volnBluesKaj me be i'm wrong06:02
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BluesKajvoln , it also depends on what processes and apps are running at the same time06:03
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volnno processes, only mp3 files06:04
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volnI'm transfering mp3 files, it's very slow always06:05
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samuel_que hay06:06
samuel_196.128.06:06
samuel_como me conecto a una pc06:06
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poison--what samuel06:08
samuel_necesito entrar en la pc de mi novia06:08
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samuel_solo tengo su ip y la mascara06:09
BluesKaj!es | samuel_06:09
stdinsamuel_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.06:09
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samuel_gracias06:10
BluesKajda nada06:10
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trekdannei tried to help my friend set up *butunu and told him to run "sudo apt-get install ; sudo nvidia-xconfig"06:12
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trekdannebut he hasn't come only again after that06:12
trekdannesudo apt-get install nvidia-glx06:12
trekdannei mean06:12
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trekdanneand i think something may have gone seriously wrong here06:13
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BluesKaj!media06:15
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tom__hi, how can i make kubuntu automatically run a command when my usb stick is mounter?06:23
tom__*mounted06:23
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tom__anyone here?06:26
stdin!hi06:26
ubot3Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!06:26
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ciganciao a tutti06:26
ciganragazzi mi chiarite un dubbio?06:26
stdin!it06:26
ubot3Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!06:26
cigansorry06:27
genii!helpersnack | stdin06:27
ubot3stdin: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!06:27
ciganbye06:27
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BluesKajgenii , they do have a god his name is Bill Gates :)06:28
BluesKaj<---couldn't resist that comment06:28
geniiBluesKaj: What, the bears worship Gates?06:29
BluesKaj??... genii06:30
geniiBluesKaj: :) Was just thinking of Stephen Colbert's description of bears, "...godless killing machines..."06:30
BluesKajoh him ...ok :)06:30
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BluesKajfrankly , his humour goes right over my head most of the time06:31
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jhutchinsgenii: well... for all we know, they aren't Christian, which meand godless in his lexicon, and they eat meat that they usually kill for themselves, so...06:32
geniijhutchins: LOL yes. What reminded me of bears and Colbert, in #ubuntu-offtopic    [12:15]  <-- mc44 has left this server ("Exit, Pursued by a Bear").06:34
jhutchinsAh, excellent exit line.06:34
jhutchinsI know I miss some good stuff masking them, but I miss a lot more 'konversation terminated'.06:35
BluesKajgot a suggestion for traceroute apps besides xtracroute ... it seems to stop in chicago for most IP addys when I suspect the country the person is not in north america06:35
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BluesKaj?06:36
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geniiPerhaps they are using some proxy machine based in Chicago06:36
BluesKajyeah could be06:37
kristjan_is where a site where I can check compatibility of various hardware with linux?06:37
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genii!hcl06:37
ubot3For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport06:37
BluesKajwow , ubot3 is fast :)06:37
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BluesKajstdin, deserves more than just a cookie :)06:38
npillowpatsso i exited a game of armagatron, and my screen was put to a small resolution06:38
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npillowpatshow would i fix that?06:38
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npillowpatswhats the reset x command?06:38
gcrackahyello06:39
stdinBluesKaj: it's actually not mine :P it's another one06:39
BluesKajoh, bummer06:39
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BluesKajnpillowpats, k-menu/system settings/monitor&display/06:40
venikI have a Phillips USB webcam, but when I try to use camorama I get an error message: Could not connect to video device06:40
venikcan anyone help?06:40
poison--brb06:40
venikIt works fine under XP on the same machine06:40
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jhutchins!webcam | venik06:41
ubot3venik: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras06:41
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jhutchinsvenik: Sadly more web cams don't work than do.06:41
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smshUAhello. have a Q, just DLed kubuntu live-cd, but i can't found automount feature in it. does it exist in kubuntu (against gnome ubuntu) ?06:42
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stdinsmshUA: look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions06:43
martijn81when i try to burn an audiocd from out of mp3 with K3B, i get this error: http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/7198/macabredw3.png   Can i fix this?06:44
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BluesKajmartijn81, sudo apt-get install libk3b2-mp306:45
pillowpantsyou do you reset x?06:45
pillowpantsnot crt alt backspace06:45
smshUAquestion is why ubuntu has automount out-of-the-box, but kubuntu has not?06:45
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martijn81BluesKaj: i love you man!06:46
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ubuntu_bonjour tt le monde06:47
poison--llo06:47
martijn81!fr | ubuntu_06:47
ubot3ubuntu_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.06:47
ubuntu_hello every body06:48
ubuntu_it's an english room i think !06:48
martijn81hi ubuntu_06:48
geniipillowpants: When only login screen, ctrl-alt-f1     login there. then: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart06:48
ubuntu_sorry i thought it's french but no problem06:48
BluesKaj!english06:48
martijn81yeah, sorry but everyone needs to be able to understand each other06:48
ubot3The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat06:48
pillowpantsgenii: my problem happens when i close a full screen game06:48
geniipillowpants: But if only at kdm login, ctrl-alt-backspace is fine too06:49
pillowpantsgenii: my screen resolusion shrinks06:49
ubuntu_ok martijn it's the first time am using ubuntu ,..06:49
pillowpantsi usually have stuff open, so i cant just restart kdm like that06:49
geniipillowpants: Try ctrl and + key or - key together for other possible resolutions06:49
ubuntu_really strange seems working on windows06:49
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difourianere06:50
pillowpantsgenii: alright06:51
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BluesKajdifouriane, what's strange ?06:52
Solifugusall day yesturday and today, digg.com has been freezing firefox... anyone else experience this?06:53
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martijn81difouriane: do you like kubuntu? do you have problems?06:53
geniipillowpants: Or ctrl-alt  then + or - on number pad to right06:53
geniibah he left06:53
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BluesKajmartijn81, have you installed the mp3 codecs in amarok , or do you use it ?06:54
martijn81BluesKaj: yeah, i have libxine-extracodecs installed and use it for mp306:55
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martijn81but i don't use the popup from amarok, i install it manually06:55
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BluesKajok good , just thought I'd ask since most ppl who don't have it on K3B , don't have it installed on amarok either06:56
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martijn81i see :) thanks06:56
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artic?06:57
hcboxi have some kind of problems with gstreamer, when i launch quod libet it told me that it didn't found the filesrc in Gstreamer ... Tried to reinstall the packages and nothing change...06:58
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alyxhello07:06
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alyxi have a strange Vmware question fo kubuntu07:06
alyxi have a vm for windows running that i want to use my my wireless card with but when i configure it it tell me that its mis configured07:07
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stdinalyx: use NAT07:08
alyxok07:08
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alyxis there any way to use a totaly different card?07:08
alyxif its not being used by ubuntu?07:09
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PHILkahi all07:09
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stdinalyx: no, definitely not with vmware07:10
alyxok thats what i thought07:10
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alyxbut NAT should work for wireless07:10
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alyxthanks stdin im trying the nat now07:11
stdin!ping07:11
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ubotupong07:12
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Tm_Tubotu: welcome dear :)07:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about welcome dear :) - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:13
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alyxok i have it set to nat and i have the wired eth0 bridged do i remove eth0 for the wires and set ath0 (wireless) to nat?07:13
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stdinnat shouldn't need to use any particular interface07:14
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alyxok so remove eth0 bridge and just use NAT07:15
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alyxor jsut set NAT ok got it07:16
alyxtrying it lol07:16
stdinyep :p07:16
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alyxso ive removed the bridge and set NAT only its booting )fingers crossed)07:18
craftycornerok, I entered sudo nautilus and am trying to change permissions to a file.  they won't change, I added the USB hard disk into the wrong username07:19
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Dr_Willisdepending on the usbhd and how its mounted. and its filesystem. you may NOT be able to change permissions on it.07:19
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craftycornerthen what do I do, unplug the USB drive and then install it again?07:20
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Dr_Willisdepends on what the exact issue is.. and whats going on with it.07:20
Dr_Willisdo not "JUST UNPLUG" it.07:20
craftycornerthen what do I do07:20
Dr_Willisunmount it manually, mount it properly. give some actual Details as to what the problem is.07:21
alyxstdin it didnt pick up the connection i changed the ethernet in the GUI to nat and reboot the vm07:21
craftycornerok...doing so07:21
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alyxbut it didnt have a connection07:21
stdinalyx: afaik, it needs to be set while the vm isn't on07:21
judgenI have a problem still. Why cant i get decent volumes with kubuntu. It works fine to play music in BeOS, Windows and FreeBSD but in kubuntu i only get very low volumes.07:21
alyxi did that i used the config.pl to do it before i powered on vm07:22
craftycornerok, going into crafty to unmount07:22
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Dr_Williscrafty?07:22
Dr_Willisgee i just use 'sudo umount what4ever' :)07:22
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Dr_WillisDifferance tween and  old timer and new users I guess. I dont even knwo what crafty IS.. :)07:22
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stdinalyx: there a #vmware they may be able to help07:23
DaSkreechAnyone runs VM for Windows?07:23
alyxthanks07:23
alyxyeah07:23
Dr_Willisive ran vmware server under linux and windows. :)07:24
alyxDaSkreech07:24
craftycornerunmounted07:24
DaSkreechalyx: hi :)07:24
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craftycornerI had to switch users to unmount the thing07:24
EP_wow...07:24
DaSkreechDr_Willis: I have a specialist group who want to move to Linux but the software seems very hardcoded windows and does some uberfunky things that I wouldn't trust WINE with07:24
EP_people07:24
alyxhi07:25
Dr_WillisDaSkreech vmware may be a good idea then.07:25
Dr_Willisdepending on the app. :)07:25
craftycornerDr Willis?07:25
EP_yo, does anyone in here mind helping out a n00b to the kubuntu interface?07:25
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Dr_Williscraftycorner ?07:25
craftycornerhere07:25
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craftycornersucker's unmounted, got files in it, can I mount it in root?07:26
jetsaredimanyone running thunderbird on gutsy?07:26
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EP_I'm trying to find my default OS boot settings, but have no idea where anything is07:26
alyxwhats up DaSkreech07:26
Dr_Willisgot files in it? Huh?07:26
jetsaredimi can't seem to keep it running for more than like 2 min before it keeps crashing07:26
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DaSkreechDr_Willis: can I expose PCMCIA ports to the VM?07:26
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DaSkreechEP_: Sure what's up?07:26
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craftycorneryes, I thought it would work no matter what user i was using07:26
Dr_WillisDaSkreech that - i am not sure.. ive not messed with the hardware stuff in vmware at all.07:26
Dr_Williscraftycorner if you mount it properly with the right options all users can access it.. youmay want to start at the begining and tell us some info. as to the TYPE and Filesystem of the usbdrive.07:27
Dr_Willisso far i am very vague on the details. :)07:27
DaSkreechalyx: played with VM stuff?07:27
alyxyeah i rum wm workstation07:27
craftycornerit's got a windows filesystem, but it's not used in Linux.  Passport07:27
alyxwith win and OSX07:27
DaSkreechalyx: Heavily?07:28
EP_aight, basically, whenever I boot my comp, it takes me to an OS selector where kubuntu is the default07:28
alyxdefine heavily lol07:28
Dr_Williscraftycorner ntfs or vfat?07:28
craftycornerit's a USB hard drive.07:28
craftycorneryou plug it in and it plays07:28
EP_can i change it so I select which OS without it autoselecting for me07:28
DaSkreechEP_: You don't want it to auto choose something?07:29
Dr_Williscraftycorner try a 'sudo fdisk -l' and look at the sd## entries - see if its a ntfs or vfat formated partition, and what partion names it has.07:29
EP_no07:29
craftycornerplug it in again?07:29
Dr_Williscraftycorner and you just want to copy some files off it?07:29
llutzEP_: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst, parameter "default"07:29
DaSkreechEP_: ok Hold on a second07:29
craftycornerit's a back up, kinda like a pen drive.  let me get you the details...07:29
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DaSkreechEP_: press alt+F207:30
craftycornerit's a usb passport 60 gig07:30
Dr_Willis'passport' means nothing to me.. thats the brand name?07:30
DaSkreechtype in kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst07:30
DaSkreechEP_: that should give you a editor with a file07:30
Dr_WillisTheres oooodles of bot factoids on this topic.. wonder if i can rember any of them.07:31
Dr_Willis!vfat07:31
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse07:31
DaSkreechalyx: can I make partitions on the virtual hard drive?07:31
craftycornergetting the data.07:31
kaminix|benkyouOkay, this is the second album today. Why does this keep happening? ERROR: Input file "the brilliant green - Stand by me/01 - Stand by me.flac" is not a supported format07:31
kaminix|benkyouBoth the files it's happened with seemed to have been encoded using flac.exe07:31
craftycorner Western Digital 60 GB USB 2.0 Passport 2.5" External Hard Drive ( WDXMS600TN ) [CD] 07:31
Dr_Willisa external usb drive should show up as a /dev/sd## device. - If its mounting wrongly. You can mount it manually.  or try that ntfs-confgure tool to alter the fstabs for you.07:31
Dr_WillisGrand kid is yelling.. bbl07:32
craftycornerremounting, seeing if that works07:32
EP_yep07:32
EP_got it07:32
DaSkreechEP_: Let me know when it's up07:33
DaSkreechok07:33
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craftycornerit mounted...07:33
DaSkreechfind the line that says timeout07:33
EP_k07:33
jussi01!adeptfix07:33
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 07:33
craftycornernow it say's it belongs to me, the other user.  it seems it mounts into whatever user is online07:33
DaSkreechEP_: what does it say?07:33
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craftycornerowner, me.07:34
EP_10 seconds07:34
craftycornergroup=root07:34
craftycornerroot has no access to files07:34
DaSkreechEP_: try something like -107:34
EP_k07:34
llutzDaSkreech: 007:34
EP_>_>07:35
craftycornerby the way, do I need those windows files?07:35
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EP_well which is it?07:35
DaSkreechllutz: yeah I was thinking that but I didn't know if that just allways booted to default :)07:35
DaSkreechEP_: try 007:35
EP_ehehe07:35
EP_aight07:35
DaSkreechif you reboot and it doesn't work then try something lower :)07:35
EP_ok07:35
craftycornerapparently it does07:35
EP_now, question 207:35
craftycornerkk.07:35
EP_I'm running an ATI Radeon X1900 video card on dual screens07:36
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EP_it won't detect my secondary07:36
craftycornerthose windows files use 5 gigs of data.  do I need them if i hop into windows?07:36
DaSkreech!xinerama07:36
ubotuxinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead07:36
DaSkreech!dualhead07:36
ubotuInformation about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama07:36
DaSkreechAh man Do I HAVE to see !xinerama again?07:36
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craftycornercan this drive work in windows with no windows programming aboard?07:37
DaSkreechcraftycorner: Dr_Willis is helping you?07:38
EP_it said it wasn't configured, and that I had to restart X server or something similiar07:38
craftycornerhe was...07:38
EP_but once again07:38
EP_being my first day07:38
EP_i have no idea how to do that07:38
Dr_Willisgrandkid needed me.. :)07:38
craftycorneroh sorry,  didn't see that07:38
DaSkreechEP_: The quick dirty way is to press Alt=Ctrl+BkSpc07:38
DaSkreechEP_: that's really abrupt and  you lose all unsaved work07:39
llutzDaSkreech: aeh, he wants to see the grub-menu endless? then it is #timeout (commented out)  i thought he wanted to boot into default without waiting, sry07:39
DaSkreecheCrap :-)07:39
craftycornerLOL07:39
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samuelhola07:39
craftycornerthis isn't an emergency, I'll hit the forums w it07:40
_Shade_how can i determine which module should i load for my usb modem?07:40
craftycornerthanks 4 u help!07:40
craftycornerbye07:40
Dr_Williscraftycorner if its mounted try the 'mount' command to see where it mounted to, and what options it used.07:40
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judgenparty!07:41
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kaminix|benkyouERROR: Input file "01 - Stand by me.flac" is not a supported format <--- Why would oggenc say that about a flac file?07:41
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Dr_Williskaminix|benkyou check that it actually is a .flac and not currupted.07:41
kaminix|benkyouDr_Willis: It played in Amarok07:41
Dr_Willisfile whatever.flac     - could be some version issue?07:42
_Shade_...anyone knows?07:42
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DaSkreechkaminix|benkyou: have you read the help file on oggenc ?07:42
jhutchinskaminix|benkyou: Remember, the file extension doesn't actually mean anything, although some apps may use it in preference to the actual file type.07:42
kaminix|benkyouDr_Willis:07:42
kaminix|benkyoufile 01\ -\ Stand\ by\ me.flac07:42
kaminix|benkyou01 - Stand by me.flac: Audio file with ID3 version 23.0 tag, MP3 encoding07:42
kaminix|benkyouBut it's not mp3, really.07:43
jhutchinskaminix|benkyou: rename it as .mp3 and see what it does.07:43
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jhutchinskaminix|benkyou: Just for fun.07:43
DaSkreech_Shade_: have you googled for the modem name?07:43
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_Shade_DaSkreech: i have no idea what should i look for07:43
kaminix|benkyoujhutchins: ERROR: Input file "01 - Stand by me.mp3" is not a supported format07:43
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esreveRPsychologok07:44
esreveRPsychologi tried it07:44
esreveRPsychologand now I'm at 640x48007:44
esreveRPsychologand it's telling me my new configuration07:44
esreveRPsychologcan't be safely tested07:44
kaminix|benkyoujhutchins: 28M     01 - Stand by me.flac07:44
DaSkreech_Shade_: (model number of modem) (modem manufacturer) linux07:44
DaSkreech_Shade_: normally gets you decent results07:44
judgenplease tell me why volume is so low when using kubuntu?07:44
kristjan_is there an utility for kde that let's me insert various symbols, like degree sign?07:44
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DaSkreechkristjan_: Yes07:45
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esreveRPsychologby the way07:45
esreveRPsychologEP is me07:45
_Shade_DaSkreech: i just found something and i think it should be AnyData.NET ADU-E100D07:45
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esreveRPsychologit screwed with my name07:45
DaSkreechesreveRPsycholog: Sorry07:46
esreveRPsycholog's all good07:46
esreveRPsychologanyway07:46
DaSkreechesreveRPsycholog: I was gonna tell you the easy way is to logout07:46
DaSkreechbut that's sloooooooow :)07:46
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esreveRPsychologwell I logged out and restarted what they were telling me to07:47
esreveRPsychologand07:47
kaminix|benkyouHow can I remove the ID3 tags and transfer them to whatever FLAC use?07:47
esreveRPsychologit's kinda made things worse07:47
llutz_Shade_: http://jk.ufisa.uninett.no/anydata/07:47
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esreveRPsychologit selected the fbdev driver and says it can't be safely tested07:47
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bigleon1anybody fimilar with running kubuntu on Dual Core Laptops??? starting with 6.06?07:51
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bigleon1I've been getting a slew of errors attempting to upgrade it.07:51
kristjan_DaSkreech: and the name of that applet is?07:51
esreveRPsycholog>_>07:51
kristjan_bigleon1: generally newest release is most compatible with newest hardware07:51
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DaSkreechbigleon1: what are you upgrading to?07:52
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bigleon1i'm working my way up to newest release starting from 6.06 to 6.10 and eventually fiesty.07:52
DaSkreechbigleon1: ok07:52
bigleon1i'm very worried (just rebooted) that my 6.06 to 6.10 update didn't work.07:52
esreveRPsychologhonestly, I'm about fine with one screen at this point, I just wanna go back to 1600x120007:52
esreveRPsycholog640x480 really sucks07:52
bigleon1It's currently stuck at the Kubuntu with the blue bar right under it07:53
kristjan_esreveRPsycholog: nvidia card?07:53
DaSkreechesreveRPsycholog: What videocard? ATI?07:53
kristjan_:-)07:53
esreveRPsychologATI Radeon X190007:53
esreveRPsychologit selected the fbdev driver07:53
DaSkreech!ati | esreveRPsycholog07:53
ubotuesreveRPsycholog: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:53
DaSkreechkristjan_: I don't actually know :-)07:54
bigleon1If it makes any differnece this computer here is my other Kubuntu comp thats already upgrated to 7.04 (it's my desktop)07:54
DaSkreechkristjan_: kcharselect ?07:54
kaminix|benkyouOkay, how do I write tags for FLAC? Vorbis comments?07:54
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kristjan_bigleon1: dl gutsy! and see if livecd works07:54
bigleon1gutsy? whats that?07:55
emilsedgh!gutsy | bigleon107:55
ubotubigleon1: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+107:55
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kristjan_bigleon1: imo screw upgrades, backup your files and do clean install07:55
bigleon1Hmm sure... should be intresting and i can just burn that to a CD-R07:55
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paoxasd07:56
kristjan_DaSkreech: kcharselect is what I'm lookin for; now if I could find a way to configure it :-/07:57
DaSkreech:-)07:57
bigleon1Woohoo, killed my laptop with Updates... yeah i'm downloading gutsy.07:57
DaSkreechbigleon1: how dead?07:57
bigleon1It loads everything, and then stops07:58
bigleon1but it is so nice to if i turned it off it would unload everything.07:58
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kaminix|benkyouIs there any reason to keep md5sums of my flac files when there is flac -t?07:59
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judgenhmm i suppose i will have to give up and install freeBSD again...07:59
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bigleon1is there any known issues with dual cores and kubuntu08:00
manneasd08:00
ch40sintel dual core big?08:00
bigleon1Yeah08:00
judgenbigleon1:  no08:00
ch40snope08:00
ch40si run one08:00
ch40s630008:00
judgenbigleon1: the linux kernel runs on more cpu than ANY other software in the world08:01
bigleon1well i just updated from 6.06 to 6.10 and my insprion is officaly giving me the big FU08:01
DaSkreechjudgen: What's up?08:01
DaSkreechjudgen: that can't be true! Linux has no hardware support!! *gasp*08:01
bigleon1oh is that gibsy run kde enviroment, because i'm not a big fan of gnome.08:01
ch40si doubt its related to ur cpu08:01
DaSkreechbigleon1: grab a nightly08:01
judgenDaSkreech: I cant get my sound chipset working decently =(08:02
bigleon1a nightly?08:02
DaSkreech!sound | judgen08:02
ubotujudgen: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP308:02
DaSkreechbigleon1: hold on met me get you a link08:02
judgen!sound08:02
atypicor not. ARTS has a few quirks. I find it better to turn off the whole sound system.08:02
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judgenDaSkreech: it works but the volume is extremly low.08:03
DaSkreechjudgen: Want the links in a more permanent place?08:03
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DaSkreech!sound > judgen08:03
DaSkreechbigleon1: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20070911/08:03
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bigleon1your link told me unknown host08:03
DaSkreechit lies liiieesss!!!!!!08:04
bigleon1Lol08:04
DaSkreechit can't find ubuntu.com ?08:04
ScorpKingbigleon1: copy and paste the link into your browser. links do that to me.08:04
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bigleon1well i don't think it can find cdimage.ubuntu.com08:04
bigleon1i'm trying that it's still "looking"08:05
manneCan someone help me with installing ati drivers?08:05
DaSkreech!ati | manne08:05
jussi01!ati | manne08:05
jussi01gah08:05
DaSkreechI win08:05
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mannehelp me.08:06
manneWhat shall i do?08:06
ScorpKinglol08:06
ubotumanne: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:06
bigleon1spam her with help!!!08:06
mannehelp!!!08:06
mannehelp!!!08:06
mannehelp!!!08:06
mannehelp!!!08:06
mannethx08:06
crafty_craftycorner I'm back, my machine had a snit08:06
manne^08:06
judgenDaSkreech: got any usefil suggestions?'08:06
jussi01!enter | manne08:06
ubotumanne: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!08:06
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DaSkreech!paitence | manne08:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about paitence - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:06
arash!spam | manne08:06
ubotumanne: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense :-)08:06
DaSkreechjudgen: check the alsamix08:06
manne!sorry.08:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sorry. - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:06
jussi01lol08:06
crafty_linux can be a pill for a newbie08:06
DaSkreechMan that bot is harsh :)08:06
bigleon1I need a special thing on my laptop that i could install that would be like "You broke me again" everytime i get a boot error just for giggles08:07
DaSkreechcrafty_: anything computer related is a pill for a newbie08:07
crafty_:D08:07
DaSkreechbigleon1: use the source luke08:07
bigleon1My computer still says "Kubuntu" stuck at end of load mocking me T_T08:07
geniibigleon1: Or 2001 theme of HAL saying "What are you doing Dave?"08:07
bigleon1Lmao!!!08:07
judgenDaSkreech: where do i find an gui for alsamix?08:07
DaSkreechjudgen: why do you need a Gui?08:08
arashjudgen, on Ubuntu ;) ?08:08
Dr_Willis!find alsamix08:08
ubotuFound: alsamixergui, gnome-alsamixer08:08
DaSkreechjudgen: middle click the speaker in the systray08:08
bigleon1Once I get my computer set up i'm gonna look for a screenshot of BSD, and use it as my screensaver.08:08
judgenDaSkreech: ive tried kmix08:08
DaSkreechbigleon1: can you press alt+ctrl+F1 ?08:09
hermit!TV08:09
ubotuhttp://www.linuxtv.org/ has extensive information about using TV cards under Linux. Available viewers for analog cards: Zapping, tvtime (GTK/GNOME), kdetv (KDE), xawtv, motv. For digital cards: Klear (KDE), dvb-utils. For both analog and digital cards, !MythTV is a powerful framework. Your card may work the !IVTV drivers. See also !TV-Out08:09
Dr_Willistheres the console based alsa-mixer interface also. :)08:09
bigleon1affirmative08:09
Dr_Willis!find alsa08:09
ubotuFound: alsa-base, alsa-utils, gstreamer0.10-alsa, libesd-alsa0, libpt-plugins-alsa (and 34 others)08:09
bigleon1logged in too08:09
bigleon1i guess the GUI Fudged up08:09
DaSkreechbigleon1: ok well there you go. Did you install a lot of KDE apps yourself?08:10
alyxok so anyone know networking in VMware?08:10
Dr_Willisalyx what part of it? ive gotten it working with little to no work. :)(08:10
bigleon1nah i installed stock 6.06 and then manually updated to 6.1008:10
bigleon1brb, i need a bathroom break.08:10
alyxusing NAT i get "limited or no connectivity"08:10
DaSkreechalyx: not me. Though I'm going to have to learn this week08:10
Dr_Willisalyx using the NAT setting for the vmware machine?08:10
Dr_WillisHmm.  I just use the defaults.. heh..  not messed with any of the other settings actually.08:11
alyxyup Dr i configured it in the config.pl and in the gui08:11
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judgen!bsd08:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bsd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:11
DaSkreechjudgen: did you read sound troubleshooting?08:11
judgenim getting sad..08:11
judgenyes i did08:11
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alyxand the only way i get it to work is if i use the wired connection with a bridge08:12
judgenDaSkreech: i have ALL sliders set to max, and such i can barely hear the sound in my speakers or headphones08:12
arashHi, I have some problems with sound  output , someone gave me an answer (Ubuntu forums) but I didn't understand, It's about switching actibe soudnd output (please read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3340848#post3340848 if you feel to help me :))08:12
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alyxas soon as i try to use a bridged wireless i get a config error08:12
arashjudgen , im no expert, but do you have option to enable bass boost?08:12
judgenDaSkreech: and i have tried using OSS and ALSA there is no dofference08:12
DaSkreechjudgen: can you ask in #alsa ?08:13
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judgenDaSkreech: i dont thin this is an alsa issue, as BSD uses ALSA too?08:13
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DaSkreechjudgen: yes but it may very easily be configured differently08:14
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bigleon1alright i'm back08:14
DaSkreechwe are all compiled equal but some were comiled more equal than others08:14
DaSkreechcompiled08:14
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alyxn08:15
bigleon1Skreech you asked me if i had installed alot of apps manually i haven't added any yet, but i did to 6.10 update manual way.08:15
DaSkreechbigleon1: argh :)08:15
DaSkreechbigleon1: You should just remove X then update08:16
drewcipher_alyx:  when I switch from using NAT on my wired ethernet to my wireless ethernet I have to rerun the vmware-config.pl08:16
DaSkreechit's looooooads faster and prevents stupid errors .... from X08:16
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alyxdrewcipher: im only using my wireless08:16
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alyxdrewcipher: when you run your config.pl what vmnet are you configuring 0-99?08:17
DevideZeroi have installed nvidia on kubuntu ( generic-16 ) and when i boot i get black screen someone know what i can do ?08:17
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bigleon1i'm going to need a "remove x update how to for linux challanged peoples" Skreech08:18
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judgenhaha im amazed by the ignorance of chris perelli08:18
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drewcipher_alyx:  I configure the vmnet0 bridged to whatever NIC i'm using at the time.  So, if wired it is eth0 and wireless eth308:18
judgenim just hoping the transgaming team will work out a way to run gothic08:18
DaSkreechbigleon1: well if you have adept just remove xserver-xorg08:19
alyxok so i need to configure a bridge and an NAT08:19
DaSkreechbigleon1: it will auto remove everything else08:19
bigleon1uhh i don't know how to do that via conscle08:19
bigleon1sudo apt-get is one command i know XD08:19
Dr_Willisapt08:19
Dr_Willis!apt08:20
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)08:20
drewcipher_alyx:  I was worried when I removed the "vmnet0 is bridged to eth0" and then remapped it to "vmnet0 is bridged to eth3" that I would break something but so far so good.08:20
DaSkreechbigleon1: sudo aptitude remove xserver-xorg I think08:20
crafty_Dr_Willis, i wanted to thank you 4 u help.  I had a crash08:20
crafty_but the USB driv's running fine08:21
crafty_ditched the onboard windows shit08:21
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alyxdrewcipher: so you have whatever connection bridged and a NAT set?08:21
Dr_Willisupgrade with extreme prejudice. :)08:21
crafty_xactly.  besides, you don't know who's spying on u in windows08:22
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alyxok so here is what im trying08:22
drewcipher_alyx:  I'm not sure about "NAT set".  I'll rerun the vmware-config.pl now and check.08:22
alyxk08:22
crafty_anything google treat w extreme caution...08:22
alyxwhen i set my bridge to my wireless vm wont load at all08:23
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judgengaah. HOW to use decent sound volumes on a realtech or a VIA chipset is beyond me. I guess i will have to reboot to BeOS to listen to music, =(08:23
crafty_ttyl08:23
bigleon1DaSkreech thats not very reassurring but i'll try08:24
alyxok i cannot use the wireless when i try to bridge to ath0 (wireless card) i get that vm is improperly configured re run config.pl08:24
DaSkreechjudgen: Sweet. have you seen haiku?08:24
DaSkreechbigleon1: oh you may want to install irssi08:24
DaSkreechbigleon1: oh wait you aren't ircing on that machine08:24
bigleon1i got my kubuntu 7.4 fiesty desktop and my dying laptop008:25
bigleon1can i put live cd on a dvd?08:25
bigleon1i'm going through my cd-rw's and they aren't best of quality lmao08:25
drewcipher_alyx:  here is the only part I usually need to tweak to switch to wifi.   Maybe I've just been lucky:   http://pastebin.ca/69236308:25
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DaSkreechbigleon1: :-)08:26
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alyxthanks08:27
alyxill check it out08:27
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bigleon1DaSkreech I found one the mysterygunk of the year08:27
bigleon1found one with the*08:27
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arashWhen is 7.10 release date?08:27
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bigleon1October Arash08:28
spiroo18 ocober probably08:28
arashok thanks :08:28
arash:)*08:28
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JuJuBeeWhat command should I use to check a drive in linux?08:29
bigleon1Is it normal for my Cd drives to refuse to open on my linux machine?08:29
stdin!fsck | JuJuBee08:30
ubotuJuJuBee: fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot08:30
Dr_Willisbigleon1  you mean with the button? if they are being accessed they will be 'locked'08:30
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bigleon1they are empty Dr_willis08:30
bigleon1no lighting either08:30
Dr_Willisbigleon1 try the eject command.08:30
difourianehello everybody i need a help plz08:30
JuJuBeeSo sudo fsck /dev/sda should work?08:30
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difourianei've just install ubuntu , it's my first time using linux ,but i can't see my partitions $08:31
difourianehow can i find them08:31
stdinJuJuBee: no, the drive needs to be unmounted08:31
bigleon1Whats the "eject command"08:31
Dr_Willisbigleon1 'eject' :) from a terminal.08:32
alyxdrewcipher mine should be pretty similar but my wireless card is a pcimcia orinico and its ath0 and vmware doesnt lke that for what ever reaso08:32
alyx*reason08:32
JuJuBeestdin : I booted from live cd.  Don't think it is mounted at the moment.08:32
bigleon1DrSkreech Uninstalling X--server did not fix the laptop08:32
Dr_Willisdifouriane you mean the installer cant see the hard drive?08:32
emilsedghdifouriane: Kubuntu or Ubuntu? they are different :)08:32
difourianei install the system ; but now i don't know where to find my partiotions08:33
stdinJuJuBee: ah, then sudo fsck /dev/sda1 or something, you need to give the partition, not just the drive08:33
difourianekubuntu08:33
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spiroo__!aptfix08:33
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 08:33
emilsedghdifouriane: go to /media :)08:33
Dr_Willisdifouriane you need to be more clear. :) you got kubuntu isntalled. and want to see what? The WINDOWS partitions?08:33
stdin!partitions08:33
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter08:33
difourianeyes dr wills08:33
Dr_Willisi like media:/ in konqueror.08:33
Dr_Willisassuming they are mounted.08:34
Dr_Willisit shows mine.08:34
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JuJuBeeOk.  I want to clone a HD (similar to using ghost), but dd is very slow.  Any other suggestions?08:34
Dr_Willisor /media/ in konqueror - similer. yet a little different for similer thing.08:34
JuJuBeeI figured I should to fsck first.08:34
difourianei should write this in konquerror /media/ to see my partitions08:34
Dr_WillisJuJuBee  theres other backup tools out for linux. I read about a few the other day.. One was on a gparted-livecd even. backupzilla?08:35
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difourianei find only cdrom0 and cdrom108:35
JuJuBeeK, I'll look.  Thanks Dr_Willis08:35
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difourianedr Willis i got only cdrom0 and cdrom1 in /media/08:36
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bigleon1Sorry those who i was talking to i had a bit of an internet refused to work08:37
Dr_Willistry media:/ yet?08:37
difourianelike that /media/08:37
emilsedgh!repeat | difouriane08:37
ubotudifouriane: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience08:37
emilsedghdifouriane: go to systemSettings->Advanced->Disks & Filesystem08:38
alyxok f it im trying a different approach08:38
Dr_WillisLook at what i am typing... in the konqueror address bar use media:/  (or was it media://) i got it on a bookmark. :) heh..08:38
Dr_WillisIts possle the isntaller dident set up any fstab entry for the windows drives.08:38
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alyxwhen ever i try to configure the config.pl to ath0 (my wireless card) it tells me to re run config .pl any ideas?08:38
Dr_Willis'how linux mounts/accesses hard drives' :) should be in a top 10 list of things for people to learn about..08:38
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JuJuBeeDr_Willis : looks like gparted-clonezilla live cd is the one.  Thanks08:39
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difourianehow to mount my partitions08:39
Dr_WillisI use the fuse tools08:39
Dr_Willis!ntfs-config08:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ntfs-config - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:40
Dr_WillisHmm08:40
Dr_Willis!fuse08:40
ubotuFUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) is a !kernel driver that allows non-root users to create their own filesystems. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE.  Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here:  http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems08:40
Dr_Willis!ntfs08:40
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse08:40
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Dr_WillisThers a dozen ways to configure the stuff.. depending on what you want to do.08:40
Dr_Willis!info ntfs-config08:40
ubotuntfs-config: Enable/disable write support for any NTFS devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.5-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 41 kB, installed size 432 kB08:40
codyWhat linux distro is best for eyecandy?08:40
codyand stability08:41
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DaSkreechdeliOS08:41
Dr_WillisEye Candy causes Ocular Cavaties.08:41
nosrednaekimcody: (k)ubuntu08:41
Dr_Willisasking both is like asking for a "Diet Cola that Tastes Good" :)08:41
Dr_Willisand is Healty for you.08:41
codyim using that now and it has crashed 3 times in less than 2 weeks08:41
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codycausing me lots of grief -_-08:42
codywhats second to kbuntu08:42
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poison--ubuntu08:42
poison--:D08:42
thedmancody: I've had good success with pclos for a desktop.08:42
cody-_-08:42
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Dr_Willisxubuntu. :)08:42
poison--than edubuntu08:42
poison--lol08:42
Dr_Willismythubuntu :)08:42
codyouside of the buntu family XD08:42
poison--roftll08:42
difourianethe ntfs-config doesn't exist08:42
Dr_Willisdifouriane install it.08:42
bigleon1testing ...08:42
poison--cody, try mint linux08:42
bigleon1anybody hear me, kubuntu gone crazy on me08:43
Dr_WillisUsing Mint Linux at the moment also. :)08:43
JuJuBeeAnybody ever hear of a Dell optiplex gx620 not shutting down or rebooting correctly?  I just did a fresh install and most of the time a reboot does not work, it hangs and I need to power off.08:43
poison--bigleon1, sup08:43
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poison--jujubee, is acpi enable08:43
Dr_WillisJuJuBee seen that on a lot of machines befor. apci/mb/bios quirks normally.08:43
JuJuBeepoison-- not sure.  Bios enabled?08:43
poison--u  might wanna add to grub: acpi=off apm=on08:44
poison--if your bios lets u disable, better08:44
ScorpKingcody: go look on distrowatch :)08:44
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poison--u can always edit grub menu.lst and add those i told before08:44
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Dr_Willisyep. make a sample test entry. :) then if needed make those options the defaults08:45
poison--cody, i forgot, mint is ubuntu based too08:45
poison--lmao08:45
codywhats so dif between mint and kbuntu?08:45
Dr_Willispoison-- yes it is. :)08:45
Dr_Williscody incliuded codecs, and a few other tweaks.08:45
poison--nice looks too08:45
codycool08:45
Dr_Willisand a few other packages/tools08:45
JuJuBeeWhere would I find the settings in the bios?  I don't see them08:45
Dr_WillisLooks the same as my kubuntu desktop. :) since im using the same home dirs...08:45
Dr_Willisso same configs/settings.08:45
poison--jujubee, when booting, press ESC08:45
poison--to axx menu08:46
JuJuBeeDo you  mean get into bios?08:46
poison--no08:46
codywhich is better for eyecandt gnome or kde?08:46
poison--if u can disable in bios, good, disable and try08:46
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codyi jsut want my comp to look nice and run smoothly XD08:46
Dr_Williscody  enlightenment. :)08:46
poison--kde08:46
codyknuntu hates me08:46
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ScorpKingcody: kde08:46
poison--:D08:46
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codyhow si enlightenment?08:47
codyis08:47
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codynvm il go to the web08:47
Dr_Willisgoood idea...08:47
nosrednaekima GUI is eye candy ;)08:47
Dr_WillisTheres a Mint-Enlightnment variant. :)08:47
bigleon_Testing kubuntu is currently hating on me08:47
nosrednaekimright intellikey?08:47
Dr_Willisand a Mint-Kde variant08:47
JuJuBeepoison-- : do not see it in the bios.  Is it under power?08:47
bigleon_i'm having serious lag issues and i don't know why.08:47
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Dr_Willisbigleon_ shake the network cable some - ya got stray bits stuckin it.08:48
poison--jujubee, should be08:48
drewcipher_alyx:  was away.  I think I have a pcmcia Ornoco card... going on a hunt...08:48
nosrednaekim!pate08:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pate - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:48
nosrednaekim!paste08:48
alyxok08:48
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)08:48
thedmancody: try pclinuxos200708:48
difourianesalut08:49
JuJuBeeDont see it anywhere under power.08:49
Dr_WillisI HATED pcLinuxOS08:49
Dr_Willis:)08:49
poison--ok jujubee, lets do it the hard way than08:49
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bigleon_Dr_Willis, well it only seems Konversation was doing it, but it seems to fixxed it self.08:49
bigleon_Maybe...08:49
poison--reboot and before it loads X, press ESC08:49
thedmanI prefer kubuntu but pclinuxos just works for almost everything out of the box.08:49
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Dr_Willisthedman it did not like my machines.. for some odd reason.08:50
bigleon_I don't think i'm lagging although bottem right says 96 s lag08:50
difourianeooooooooooooooof how can i do for my partitions08:50
Dr_Willisthedman this was a  few months back however. :)08:50
bigleon_wait okay i think i'm fine now. i just started yelling at my computer how it was an idiot. :D it seems when in doubt it always works.08:50
codycan someone point me to the enlightenment mint distro08:50
Dr_Williscody they got mention of it on the mint linux web site.08:50
codyk08:51
Dr_Willisnot sure its been released yet however.08:51
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JuJuBeepoison-- hang on need to reboot...08:51
codynot in the download list08:51
bigleon_Is there a download manager thats built into kubuntu so I can download and be able to reconnect cause i think my nets gone wacky08:52
Dr_WillisIts one of the works in progress. Maybe some mention of it on the forums/wiki/beta releases08:52
Dr_Willisbigleon_ wget is handy08:52
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Dr_Willishttp://www.linuxmint.com/wiki/index.php/Install_Enlightenment_E17_desktop_on_Mint08:52
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nosrednaekimbigleon_: I wrote a little python script to do that......you interested08:53
Dr_Willisof course one could add the mint repos to a ubuntu box and install Enlightment that way also. :)08:53
bigleon_I think it is my College network going lame on me08:53
ScorpKinguhm.. what's the program in KDE to connect to VNC connections again?08:53
nosrednaekimKVRC?08:53
nosrednaekimI think.08:54
codythanks08:54
ScorpKingok08:54
paolo__krdc, maybe08:54
JuJuBeepoison-- not successful?  X loaded08:54
bigleon_I'll take first handy dandy dl link :D08:54
codyIS mint novice friendly?08:54
kristjan_bigleon_: for kde where is kget08:54
nosrednaekimcody: yeah08:54
codyThanks08:54
Dr_Williscody yes.. and thats also vague. :)08:54
Dr_Willisya got your 'mom and dad' friendly.. then a 'person wanting to LEARN linux' friendly. :008:55
drewcipher_alyx:  my oronoco gold card shows up as eth4.  when I re-run vmware-config.pl it allows me to set "vmnet0 is bridged to eth4" and appears to be happy.08:55
poison--jujubee, reboot again and start pressing ESC like crazy08:55
poison--should work now08:55
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codyIt has no mention of what Mint version their using08:55
Dr_Willispoison-- or have him edit the menu.lst and SHOW THE MENUS by default. :)08:55
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poison--true08:55
alyxnot sure why mine always shows as ath0 dewcipher08:55
JuJuBeeDo you want the grub menu?08:55
paolo__i need help about connecting my mobile phone to the system08:55
poison--jujubee, yeah, u should edit it08:55
JuJuBeeOh, I can get that...08:56
JuJuBeebrb08:56
poison--just try and add: acpi=off apm=on08:56
bigleon_Alright well i'm tring to get live cd for the beta gusty or w/e and i useing my Firefox and dl froze on me08:56
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JuJuBeefor kernel or initrd?08:57
codyDr_Willis: They have no mention of which distro of mint i should use08:57
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YazzYhi there chaps08:57
nosrednaekimhey08:57
YazzYwhat comes after feisty  ?08:57
Dr_Williscody flip a coin. It dosent matter.08:58
nosrednaekimgutsy08:58
nosrednaekim!gutsy08:58
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+108:58
Dr_Willisor shouldent matter. :)08:58
YazzYnosrednaekim: you think gutsy woudl be stable enough to run on a desktop ?08:58
codyGreat Xd08:58
alyxdrewcipher: i get that its not configured correctly for my machine when i try to use ath0 i dont know anymore08:58
bigleon_<< trying to get gutsy but the world hates him, specially the College network08:58
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YazzYor to be ran on a desktop08:58
codywatch me download and install then i die XD08:58
paolo__i connect my mobile trough a BT dongle. what is the name of the device?08:58
Dr_WillisHmm.. How is the UUID for a drive calculated anyway?  This site implies if you resize a hard drive. its UUID changes?08:58
nosrednaekimYazzY: probably not if you aren't interesting in doing bug reports and being unstable at times.08:59
codyhmmm gnome or kde for 3.008:59
JuJuBeepoison-- add those for kernel or initrd08:59
poison--jujubee08:59
Dr_Williscody when in doubt go with the normal common gnome desktop version.08:59
Dr_Willisi always install the other desktops later.08:59
poison--root=UUID=796b3466-bc5e-4f51-9ec6-7c111f919d5e ro vga=791 quiet splash08:59
drewcipher_alyx:  when I do an lspcmcia I get this:   Socket 0 Device 0:      [orinoco_cs]             (bus ID: 0.0)08:59
poison--try: root=UUID=796b3466-bc5e-4f51-9ec6-7c111f919d5e ro acpi=off apm=on quiet splash08:59
JuJuBeeK08:59
YazzYnosrednaekim: i need some newer software that is not avaliable for feisty and i was wondering whether i could give gutsy a shot but not crash and burn trying09:00
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drewcipher_alyx:  not sure that helps at all but my system does *think* it is orinoco.09:00
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codyDr_Willis: I was more refering to the ammount of dependancies that i will have to be confused about after i install because im using wirless linksys most linux distros hate me09:00
alyxbut here is an odd one drewcipher, i have two wireless cards ath0 (orinoco pcimcia) and my eth1 (brodcom internal) im not using the brodcom because its driver support just is non existent with the brodconm disabled i wonder if i can turn on the brodcom and get it to work...09:00
nosrednaekimYazzY: what software?09:00
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poison--cody, u should consider MAC OS :D09:01
YazzYnosrednaekim: i.e eclipse09:01
codypoison--: -_- i hate macs09:01
nosrednaekimyou can probably get a recent version of that somewhere on the web09:01
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alyxnope it auto disables09:01
YazzYnosrednaekim: i have it installed as a binary i downloaded from eclipse.org but you know, i would like to have it avaliable in dpkg repo09:01
drewcipher_alyx:  I use my broadcom.  I was lucky and it worked out of the box.   Broadcom NexXtreme BCM575209:02
YazzYnosrednaekim: i know linux failry well,i am developing embedded apliances based on linux, i just dont want to spend days on fixing bugs09:02
nosrednaekimYazzY: ah.. right... well go ahead if you WANT to.. but its not stable.09:02
ScorpKingif i have a vnc server running on xp but the firewall only have port 22 open on the router to a linux server on the internal network, is there a way i can connect to it?09:02
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nosrednaekimYazzY: you won't be fixing bugs... just reporting them..09:02
nosrednaekimand have your computer broken until they get fixed by someone else09:03
YazzYnosrednaekim: sometimes i need to fix stuff manually as well09:03
YazzYnosrednaekim: right :)09:03
bigleon_How do i open up the kubuntu kget?09:03
alyxyeah mines a bcmw54 i think or something like that09:03
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nosrednaekimbigleon_: you have to install it.09:03
alyxi just bought the orinoco because it works out of the box with no issues09:03
bigleon_there a sudo command for me to auto install it?09:04
YazzYif it breaks i will just go for desktopbsd or pcbsd09:04
codyI know linux hates radeon but ae there drivers for a "Radeon x1050"09:04
Dr_Willis!find kget09:04
ubotuFound: kget09:04
Dr_Willis!info kget09:04
ubotukget: download manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu9 (feisty), package size 440 kB, installed size 1192 kB09:04
cody!Radeon09:04
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:04
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ardchoillekget is quite nice09:04
drewcipher_alxy: I have the orinoco for the same reason.  kismet works, etc.     No support for it on Vista out of the box for what that's worth.09:04
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bigleon_i checked my adept and it doesn't hjave it09:05
drewcipher_alyx: I'm not sure anything is wrong with your card.  I just don't have the vmware skillz to help you beyond the vmnet readdressing09:05
JuJuBeepoison-- : sorry, my daughter called to tell me that our cat caught a mouse and is slurping the intestines like spaghetti...  I edited the line and pressed 'b' for boot.09:05
alyxthats kool im going to figure it out some how lol09:06
YazzYnosrednaekim: any idea why gutsy-backports/multiverse and universe is not avaliable ?09:06
JuJuBeeIf this works, do I manually edit the menu.lst to add those switched?09:06
poison--jujubee, if my daghter do dat, i will for sure give her beer09:06
nosrednaekimYazzY: since it is the latest.... there ARE no backports :)09:06
poison--yes jujubee09:06
JuJuBeemy daughter only 13, and don't like beer, money is better :)09:06
YazzYso why did i also get Ign http://no.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/main Translation-en_US running apt-get update ?09:06
poison--well, my daughter has obly two months old.. but09:06
YazzYnosrednaekim: ^^09:07
poison--her pappa luvs beer09:07
poison--:D09:07
JuJuBeeYea, the younger ones like it more...09:07
JuJuBeeNo joy!09:07
JuJuBeePressed reboot, screen is off, cpu still on.09:07
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poison--hummm09:08
poison--wtf09:08
poison--!boot09:08
ubotuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto09:08
poison--try those :D09:08
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JuJuBeeWhat is acpi?09:10
JuJuBeeThis computer is only 1year old.09:11
alyxok how do i figure out what "linux headers" i need to install?09:11
alyxor what are already installed?09:11
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JuJuBeeI will try noacpi.09:12
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poison--alyx, generic should do the trick09:12
poison--jujubee, acpi is energy control09:12
poison--and a fuckin headache09:13
nosrednaekim!ohmy09:13
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.09:13
JuJuBeeI see that.09:13
poison--sorry09:13
poison--my bad09:13
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bigleon_When i book up kubuntu I see the blue load bar and then this green dotted line and it just stops (running 6.10)09:15
JuJuBeeFunny thing is that sometimes it reboots or shutdown fine...09:16
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poison--jujubee, dats weird09:17
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poison--bigleon, live cd09:18
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paolo__can someone help me with some about /dev/ ?09:19
JuJuBeeJust did a "Turn Off" and it rebooted.09:19
JuJuBeeOMG09:19
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poison--lol09:21
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JuJuBeeNOT funny :(09:21
JuJuBee;)09:21
poison--u should try a clean install :D09:23
poison--think theres sumtin quite messed up09:23
JuJuBeeThis is a clean install, in fact it is the 4th clean install.09:23
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poison--damn..09:24
JuJuBeeiirc, there was some message during boot from cd that flashed across screen about REBOOT disables in hardware?09:24
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poison--dunno09:24
poison--never had dat issue09:24
bigleon1Rawr!!! -.- I hating konservation it's going all dorked out on me -.- Anyways, where does one get "kget" i checkd adept manager. Also my other linux machine has gone wacked at kubuntu load screen, finished loading stuff, then this green dotte dline appeared under the blue bar, and it won't do anything now i can't even press Crtl+alt+F109:24
poison--tested kubuntu with asus, acer and via laptops.. no issues09:24
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nosrednaekimVia lappys?09:27
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nosrednaekimwow... where did you get one of those?09:27
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nosrednaekimbigleon1: boot into recovery mode..09:28
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hermit!video09:29
ubotuUbuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications09:29
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bigleon1okay konversation is really laggy is their an alternative?09:29
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emilsedghbigleon1: Kopete :)09:30
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poison--nosrednaekim> the company i work imports them and resell09:31
poison--and asus too09:31
poison--nice stuff too09:32
poison--for a cheap LE09:32
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acidBURNready a article that ubuntu is going to have more goodies, than kubuntu in the next version (Gutsy Gibbon)09:33
nosrednaekimsweet.09:33
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DexterFhi09:34
nosrednaekimcheap?09:34
DexterFgot a usb card reader09:34
poison--yep09:34
devianceWhats the command to delete the lock on adept again09:34
poison--400 USD09:34
DexterFplug in a CF once, works, umount, replug, works, umount, replug - nothing09:34
DexterFwth?09:34
nosrednaekimUS>?09:35
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poison--us dolars09:35
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poison--or sumtin like dat09:35
nosrednaekim!adeptfix09:36
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 09:36
nosrednaekimpoison--: link :)09:36
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poison--www.idot.com.tw09:37
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devianceThanks09:37
poison--i resell them here in brazil with kubuntu :D09:37
poison--30-50 per week09:37
jhutchins_wkpoison--: $400 US for a flash card reader?09:37
poison--no ffs.. for a laptop09:38
jhutchins_wkpoison--: Ah - now that's reasonable.09:38
poison--:D09:38
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jhutchins_wkI know electronics were significantly more expensive in Britain than they are here - like 4x.09:38
nosrednaekimpoison--: ah.... i brazil... I wanted one in the US :)09:39
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poison--think u can buy them there too09:39
poison--i guess09:39
DevideZerohow i can fix my kubuntu display ? ( have black screen after nvidia driver installion )09:40
nosrednaekimnever seen one.09:40
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sayerswhats with the new update? On gutsy the update does not want to work09:40
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jhutchins_wknosrednaekim: Asus has some pretty cheap ones.09:40
sayersDevideZero: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as sudo09:40
poison--x51 is cheap09:40
jhutchins_wksayers: Gutsy's still in #ubuntu+109:40
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nosrednaekimeeepc.... yeah I know... thy look sweet.09:41
DevideZerosayers , this will fix it or return me to the old driver ?09:41
MGDevideZero: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, change "nvidia" to "nv", ctrl-alt-Backspace09:42
DevideZeroMG , but i want nvidia driver09:42
MGnope, no ctrl-alt-Backspace,  init 209:43
MGone step at a time09:43
DevideZeroso what todo from them both ? (what sayers gave me or ctrl+alt+backspace ot init 2 ) ?09:45
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MGinit 209:45
DevideZerook thanks09:45
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ardchoilleIf you're changing video drivers all you need to do is edit xorg and then log out and restart xorg from the login screen09:47
MGwhat if you x display is borked?09:48
codysoooo...09:48
MGyour, that is09:48
codyenlightenment = eyecandy09:48
Dr_Willisim not  sure the init method works any more.09:49
ardchoilleMG: Can't that be fixed with: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  ?09:49
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MGidunno09:49
ardchoilleI'm pretty sure it can09:49
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MGok, then i'm pretty sure it can too09:50
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paolo__can someone help me with kitchensync?09:53
jhutchins_wkDr_Willis: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart might be sufficient.09:53
Dr_Willispower down, unplug the pc... bury it in the yard for 3 months.. :)09:53
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ardchoilleDr_Willis: lol09:54
ScorpKinghow can i wget only .jpg in one directory on a server? wget http://server.com/pictures/*.jpg doesn't work09:54
Dr_WillisScorpKing because the SHELL is seeing the * wildcard. perhaps.09:54
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ScorpKingany other way?09:55
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Dr_Willis wget has some very picky options. :) ya may want to read its docs/examples... you might have to quote the arguments..09:55
rrazpolu tout le monde =)09:55
Dr_Williskget is a front end also to the command09:55
Dr_WillisIts possible the server wont allow wildcards.09:55
ScorpKingok. man wget then... :)09:55
Dr_Willistheresl also curl and..hmm htttrack? for mirroring web sites09:56
Dr_Willisi think thats the command.09:56
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ScorpKingi only want the pics in one directory. i'm aware of htttrack but never tried it.09:57
Dr_Williswget 'http://whatever/*.jpg' MIGHT work. :)09:57
ScorpKingnope. i tried09:57
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Dr_Williswget also has 10000000000000 options. :)09:58
Dr_Williswell bbl.09:58
ScorpKingi see. reading man wget.09:58
ardchoilleScorpKing: Can't you dl that jpeg with firefox?09:58
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kkathmanargggh  I have a notification going off and I dont know what it belongs to !!09:59
cody_Anyone know if there is a working friver for Radeon X105009:59
cody_driver*09:59
cody_iv looked all over09:59
ScorpKingardchoille: there is about 20 and i don't feel like clicking.09:59
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kkathmanthis is driving me crazy - this loud chime dings every so often and I cant tie it to anything Im running10:00
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runleveltenYou use wget -A to do that.10:00
ScorpKingmmm. lets see10:00
cody_You talking to me?10:00
jussi01kkathman: its not email arriving?10:00
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kkathmannope thats a nice soft little chime - this one is like loud and obnoxious10:01
ScorpKingrunlevelten: nope. i must be doing something wrong.10:01
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kkathmanimagine an old typwriter bell amplified x20010:01
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nagyvhello! could someone help me to figure out why I can not connect to my new laser keyboard? hcitool scan finds it, but hidd --connect always times out.10:02
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kkathmanjussi01:  Ive been to the system notifications and theres no sound there associated with anything10:02
ritzcrackerkkathman you sure its not your irc proggie mine used to do that till i disabled it10:02
jussi01kkathman: its not a kopete or konversation sound?10:02
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kkathmanritzcracker jussi01 well I use kopete yes, but removed the notifications except for when someone messages me.  So I'd see the little bubble with that chime if that were it10:03
kkathmanI use kvirc not konversation10:03
jussi01kkathman: how about in irc?10:03
lnx_i have changed the driver to "nv" but i want nvidia , so how i can install nvidia driver right ( without to get black screen after the install ) ?10:03
jussi01!ati | lnx_10:04
ubotulnx_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:04
ardchoillelnx_: Did you follow the BinaryDriverHowto?10:04
kkathmanjussi01:  it could be , but Ive failed to notice anything in the irc channels when the chime rings - i.e .highlighted text, etc10:04
runleveltenunless you're just pointing it to a web page and expecting it to get a file listing from that...10:04
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lnx_kkathman , no , now i will10:06
ScorpKingrunlevelten: wget http://server.bla/pictures/ *.jpg resolve the pictures as url's and then goes to http://thispicturename.jpg/10:07
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runleveltenWon't that just pick up the jpegs in the cwd?10:08
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ScorpKingthat's what i thought but it doesn't.10:09
lnx_the say " if you are using kubuntu follow ubuntu 6.10 , but i find thing like " System menu at the top of the screen." in kubuntu  , there isnt guide just for kubuntu ?10:09
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MatyoPls click on him afterwards you may quit:10:09
Matyohttp://www.nicefaces.eu/?link=select&id=1896&voks=1010:09
runleveltenwho says if you're using kubuntu follow ubuntu 6.10?10:09
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lnx_runlevelten , "Note: If you are using Kubuntu, please follow the instructions for Ubuntu 6.10"10:10
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pramodHello friends...10:10
pramod:D10:10
runleveltenWhere?10:11
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runleveltenNot on the binary driver howto, which is what I thought you were talking about10:11
lnx_runlevelten , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:11
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lnx_ooopppppps sorry your right10:11
cezarhi10:11
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ScorpKingwelcome stdin.10:12
cezarguys, good bye10:12
reconis there any way to save open pages in konqueror when you close it, like in firefox?10:12
lnx_someone know what to do ?10:12
runleveltenAnyway, just sudo apt-get install restricted-manager10:13
YazzYrecon: yes, you can store them as web profile before closing konq10:14
lnx_i have the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1.run driver i cant just install him ?10:14
runleveltenYou can also save a session at any time by choosing "save tabs as folder" from the bookmarks folder10:15
runlevelten*bookmarks menu in konqy, even10:15
jhutchins_wkrecon: If you leave them open when you log out, they'll be restored next session, but the only way to save them when closing konq is to bookmark them.10:15
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jhutchins_wkOh, or what YazzY said.10:15
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runleveltenthen you can open your bookmarks menu, right click the folder you saved earlier and select "open in tabs"10:16
runleveltento reload the session later10:16
reconhuh. OK.10:16
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recon(although firefox was a little easier...)10:16
runlevelten(and is now stuffed up because you have to have a shell script to stop it showing a dialog at startup)10:17
reconrunlevelten: i do?10:17
runleveltenthe "restore session/new session" dialog really really sucks.10:17
reconrunlevelten: no, that's usually only when you close it improperly. there's a setting that says "restore tabs and windows on startup".10:18
runleveltenNo. If you shut down the machine normally, firefox thinks it crashed.10:18
reconrunlevelten: ...hitting the big X isn't that much of a deal...10:18
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runleveltenIt's a big deal when you're preloading firefox on 300 machines.10:19
runleveltenBecause it doesn't preload. It opens 300 dialogs. With 300 big Xs.10:20
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reconrunlevelten: i was talking about the X that closes the window...10:20
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runleveltenYes, I know...10:21
pramodi have a program that's not working in linux...10:21
runlevelten?10:21
pramodcan anyone help me out please???10:21
runleveltenpramod: what program?10:21
pramodjbaci10:21
ScorpKing!ask10:21
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)10:21
pramodu know it?10:21
ScorpKingno10:21
pramodhell...10:21
pramodit's for concurrent programming...10:21
ScorpKing:)10:21
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pramod:(10:22
runlevelten!adeptfixz10:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about adeptfixz - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:22
runlevelten!adeptfix10:22
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 10:22
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pramodhelp me someone who knows how to run jbaci on Linux Kubuntu...10:22
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runleveltenwhat did you get when you tried to build it?10:23
runleveltenpramod: ^] 10:23
pramodyaeh10:23
runleveltenwhat did you get when you tried to build it?10:23
pramodi first unzipped the file...10:23
pramodunzipped it in a directory...10:23
pramodit uses Java libraries...10:23
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pramodwhen i run them via console and execute the jar file... the jbaci window appears.. but i get Error...10:24
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pramodi take a program and compile it it compiles... when i run it... it gives a java application error...10:25
waylandbillpramod: just because it can compile doesn't mean the code is free from run-time exceptions.10:26
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pramodwell10:26
runleveltenOh for God's sake it unzips everything into the current directory10:26
pramodthe code runs on other machines... and the code is a C++ code...10:26
pramodonly the interface is done in Java...10:26
runleveltenI'll be cleaning bits of that up weeks from now :\ right, new folder10:27
pramodperhaps there is a problem with the Java Library...10:27
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waylandbillpramod: the fact that it runs on other machines doesn't mean it is exception free either. The programmers may have not counted on a condition that may not exist all the time.10:27
pramodhmm perhaps...10:28
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pramodwell got to try it...10:28
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pramodi have taken the windows version of it...10:28
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pramodso friends... u got any interesting programs that can be added on linux kubuntu???10:28
waylandbillpramod: you probably could contact the software's author and find out more about the error.10:29
pramodi have just installed the firefox.. and it rocks.. :D10:29
christoffernorsHey. How can i change the shortcut "Alt+Left and Alt+Right" to another key? (im using gnome ubuntu). Thankyou.10:29
pramodWell... the executable file is in .jar format10:29
pramodi.e.multiplatform...10:29
waylandbillpramod: there's tons of installable apps in the apt repositories.10:29
runleveltenHahaha.10:29
runleveltenSorry. Jaded programmer.10:30
pramodapt repositories?10:30
pramodwhere's that?10:30
waylandbill!apt10:30
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)10:30
ScorpKinglol10:30
stdinchristoffernors: better to ask in #ubuntu then10:30
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christoffernorswierd though.. that this is the default channel?10:31
waylandbillchristoffernors: using which client?10:31
pramodand a good player fo my mp3 files??10:31
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christoffernorsKonversation10:31
stdin!players | pramod10:31
ubotupramod: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs10:31
waylandbillchristoffernors: yeah. Konversation does default to this channel. :)10:31
pramodok thanx10:31
christoffernorswack10:32
ScorpKingo :)10:32
stdinchristoffernors: well, it is a KDE app10:32
waylandbillchristoffernors: just change it in the server dialog and the wackness goes away. :)10:32
christoffernorswierd that its default with ubuntu then?10:32
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pramodwell thanx a lot guys...10:33
pramodGod Bless You all..10:33
waylandbillpramod: amarok is installed by default and works well even with ipods.10:33
pramodi will be back with new questions10:33
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runleveltenBye then pramod :)10:34
ardchoille!tastymenu10:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tastymenu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:34
pramodwell here when i load an mp3 file in amarok it freezes...10:34
pramodand am using linux feisty fawn...10:35
pramodthe newest one...10:35
pramod:D10:35
waylandbillsubmit a bug report.10:35
pramodhow?10:35
ardchoille!bug10:35
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots10:35
stdinpramod: it's already been reported, just install libxine1-ffmpeg and restart amarok10:36
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pramodok thank you...10:37
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waylandbillthat brings up a good point. remember to check if a bug has been reported before submitting a duplicate. :)10:37
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ScorpKingpramod: this might help a little - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/Projects10:39
pramodok... thanx a lot brothers.10:39
arianehi. a couple of minutes ago, when i logged on my session, kde wasn't able to start kicker and other dashboard apps. i restarted it and all the apps never started this time too...does someone knows how to fix that bug and could explain me how to do so please?10:39
ScorpKingoops. :)10:40
pramodyes it works...10:41
pramodthanx a lot guys...10:41
jhutchins_wkariane: First, from console try renaming ~/.kde to clear your personal settings.10:41
jhutchins_wkariane: (Then try restarting kde - ctrl-alt-backspace or log in).10:41
arianejhutchins_wk: i rebooted...wasn't that supposed to fix the problem !?!10:42
jhutchins_wkariane: This is not windows.10:43
jussi01lol10:43
jhutchins_wkariane: Have you been running GUI apps with sudo?10:43
runleveltenrebooting is great if your problem is that you're not wasting enough time/electricity :)10:43
jussi01its funny, since restarting x is a trauma for me...10:44
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jhutchins_wkThere are things that reboots fix in linux, but that's not the way to bet.10:45
jhutchins_wkArmed with my trusty live CD's I go forth to rescue data from a damsel's XP box.10:45
jhutchins_wkl8r10:45
jussi01rebooting? pah... who does that?10:45
runleveltenPeople changing their hardware or their kernel.10:46
bigleon1Testing 1-210:46
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bigleon1Is Konversation stil hating on me? I'm having major issues with lag on this thing, and i'm sure it's not my net, but i'm having issues with knetwork manager thing10:46
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ScorpKingbigleon1: set the number of lines konversation remembers lower, maybe that helps10:48
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hassane /msg [DB-FR] XDCC-ONE_PIECE xdcc send #1410:51
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Bigleon12Hello?10:54
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jussi011 minute...10:58
jussi01thats it?10:58
jussi01ffs...10:58
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ubuntuWhy doesnt KUBUNTU ship with Koffice?11:05
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lnx_i just have installed kubuntu , someone know easy way to install nvidia 5200 fx geforce ? ( exept envy ) ?11:09
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hitmanWilly!nvidia | lnx_11:10
ubotulnx_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:10
bjwebbwhy is there no ffmpeg-dev package?11:10
runleveltensudo apt-get install restricted-manager, then run restricted-manager.11:10
runleveltenDone.11:10
runleveltenright, bed.11:11
lnx_runlevelten , are you sure ?  ive read that this is not good way ? ( better to install 100.14.11 nvidia driver ) ?11:11
runleveltennight kubunters :)11:11
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hitmanWillylnx_, for that card, restricted manager should work fine11:12
lnx_runlevelten what ?11:12
lnx_hitmanWilly , but i want to install the nvidia driver this is the same ?11:12
hitmanWillylnx_, that app will autodetect and install the correct driver for your card11:13
hitmanWillylnx_, if it doesn't work, come back here and I'll help you do a manual install11:13
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lnx_hitmanWilly , so it will install this : "NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1" ? ( i have reinstalled kubuntu 7 times and im tired from this :( i want to do it once and right . . . )11:15
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ubuntu&leave11:16
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hitmanWillylnx_, you don't want the 100 series drivers...11:16
hitmanWillylnx_, not for a 520011:17
lnx_hitmanWilly , why not ?11:17
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hitmanWillylnx_, they don't help any, easier to use the older ones11:17
hitmanWillylnx_, ok, let me walk you through installing them by hand11:17
hitmanWillylnx_, open up a konsole11:17
lnx_i just want the best preformance that my card can give11:17
lnx_ok11:18
hitmanWillylnx_, in the konsole: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx11:18
lnx_hitmanWilly , i cant do this adept is running updates , i will have to wait them to finish11:19
hitmanWillylnx_, ok, wait for that to finish11:19
ScorpKinglnx_: just to let you know, i have the same card in my other box and it works great.11:19
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lnx_ScorpKing , i know that in ubuntu its worked fine ( just stop gdm , sh the driver , start gdm ) and its ok but kubuntu is not the same11:21
hitmanWillylnx_, ok, while adept's doing it's thing, let's back up your current config file11:21
lnx_xorf.conf ?11:21
hitmanWillylnx_, yup11:21
hitmanWillylnx_, are you comfortable in a cmd line?11:22
lnx_ok will make backup in desktop11:22
lnx_yes ( i think so )11:22
hitmanWillylnx_, ok, so you can copy that file back from the desktop in a cmd line?11:22
lnx_yes11:23
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hitmanWillylnx_, ok, good11:23
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codyCan anyone help me burn an iso11:24
hitmanWillylnx_, you may also want to install irssi in case you run into trouble and need to come back here11:24
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ScorpKingcody: use k3b11:24
hitmanWillycody, k3b should set everything up automatically11:25
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lnx_other question : in this update it install 16-generic and i had 15 generic , and now i have to choose when the computer start between them , what to choose ?11:26
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Daisuke_Idothe new one11:26
hitmanWillylnx_, choose the newest one unless you run into problems11:26
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zblachhey all. how do I manually unlock kicker?11:27
lnx_and i need to save all the olds or i can delete them ?11:27
zgmf-x20a#ktorrent11:27
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hitmanWillylnx_, i'd reccomend keeping at least one backup one around, in case something screws up11:27
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hitmanWillylnx_, it's been known to happen11:28
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Daisuke_IdohitmanWilly: i have several kernels littering my grub, i should probably get rid of a few, eh?11:29
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hitmanWillyDaisuke_Ido, you can if you want, but its really no big deal11:30
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hitmanWillyDaisuke_Ido, unless you're running short on drive space11:30
Daisuke_Idoi'm always running short on drive space :D11:30
hitmanWillylol11:30
Daisuke_Idoeven when i'm ont11:30
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Daisuke_Idoi like to maximize available space for days when i want to download a 30gb torre^H^H^H^H^H copy of the gutenberg project11:31
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hitmanWillyheh, i usually have at least 2-3 kernels lying around, but then again I roll my own11:31
Daisuke_Idoquickest way just to sudo rm -rf the appropriate directories then grub-update?11:31
Daisuke_Idonever actually gotten rid of a kernel11:32
Daisuke_Idowas always too scared to :D11:32
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hitmanWillyDaisuke_Ido, actually, you can pull them through apt11:32
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BluesKajkernels can't take up really all that much space , seeing that a live cd is barely 700MB11:33
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hitmanWillyyeah, about 30 mb a pop IIRC, at least for a kitchen sink ubuntu one11:33
Daisuke_Idoactually, i think i'll keep what i have.  i forgot i installed feisty fresh on this one11:33
hitmanWilly:)11:33
Daisuke_Idoso i just have 2.6.20-15 and -1611:33
newsense!firewall11:33
UbotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).11:34
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Daisuke_Idolaptop has several though, being a testing machine for gutsy11:34
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Daisuke_Ido(which i love, by the way11:35
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lnx_hitmanWilly , you really think that 100.14.11 is not the best driver for my card ? sound strange alot of peeople have told my that this is the best nvidia driver11:35
hitmanWillylnx_, it is for the new cards, but it doesn't add any functionality for older ones, like a 520011:36
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hitmanWillylnx_, anyway, let me know when the updates are finished11:37
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lnx_yea , ok its less than 5 minutes i guess , and i will need to restart my computer after the updates to boot from generic-1611:38
hitmanWillylnx_, ok11:39
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lnx_brb11:43
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lnx_im back , the updates have finished11:46
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hitmanWillylnx_, ok, in a konsole: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx11:47
lnx_ready11:48
hitmanWillylnx_, done?11:48
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lnx_yes , installed succsessfully11:49
hitmanWillylnx_, once that finishes, sudo nvidia-xconfig11:49
souslIs there a msn chat program that also supports @yahoo passport id's as a friend than just @hotmail's?11:49
hitmanWillysousl, gaim/pidgin/kopete does them all11:50
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lnx_Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf".11:50
lnx_Backed up file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' as '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'11:50
lnx_New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'11:50
laptophola11:50
hitmanWillylnx_, ok, that's good. now you just need to restart X11:50
lnx_killall X , then sudo X ?11:51
souslhitmanwilly, I have tried adding a friend to my msn buddy list that has a @yahoo id, and it says it's not valid..11:51
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hitmanWillylnx_, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart11:52
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hitmanWillylnx_, that should restart X11:52
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BluesKajsousl, i think kopete supports yahoo and msn11:52
lnx_hitmanWilly , in the console or ctrl + alt + f1 ?11:52
hitmanWillylnx_, if X fails on restart, try a full reboot, and if that fails, restrore your backed up xorg.conf11:52
hitmanWillylnx_, either or11:53
hitmanWillylnx_, actually, konsole11:53
ScorpKingi use kopete for yahoo and it works great.11:53
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lnx_ok iwill right back11:53
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Daisuke_Idoi'm vacationing in a little bubble of nostalgia right now...11:54
hitmanWillyDaisuke_Ido, ?11:55
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Daisuke_Ido#kubuntu-offtopic11:56
Daisuke_Idobecause it's so very offtopic, but so awesome i have to share it with someone11:57
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hitmanWillylnx_, any luck?12:00
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Rask330Can anyone help me with a sound problem in a fresh install of kubuntu?  My sound adapter (VIA 8235) is listed in the output of "aplay -l", and seems to be recognized by KDE and everything.  I've turned up all the levels in Kmix... but at the end of it all, I hear nothing.12:00
lnx_hitmanWilly , i got black screen when i restart kdm and then i did restart to the computer and now its work prefect12:00
lnx_thanks for the help12:00
hitmanWillylnx_, yeah, needed to load the kernel module12:00
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hitmanWillylnx_, there's a way to do it without a reboot, but that's harder to explain :)12:01
lnx_i dont need to have any "nvidia xserver settings" shortcut in kmenu ?12:01
hitmanWillylnx_, it has some cool settings in there, but no, you don't need it12:02
codyHopefully mint will recognize my linksys card12:02
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hitmanWillycody, if ubuntu does/doesn't, then mint probably will/won't12:03
codySomeone did it for me ^_^ so i have no clue12:03
bigleon_Hello?12:03
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lnx_hitmanWilly , how i can see these settings that you talked about ?12:04
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bigleon_Question, Running this Knetwork manager, and it won't use my wireless nic why? Everytime i run it to connect it stalls at 28pct12:05
BluesKaj!wireless | bigleon_12:06
Ubotubigleon_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:06
Rask330I found the comprehensive sound guide thing, but it seemed to think that all was well if "aplay -l" listed the sound card.  Nothing I do in Kmix seems to allow me to hear anything. :)12:07
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Rask330Anyone have any suggestions, or should I just stick around and ask again later? ^^;12:09
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BluesKajRask330, k-menu/system settings/sound system/enable sound system,then choose hardware tab/select the audio device/Advanced Linux Sound Architecture, click apply12:10
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Rask330Already selected.12:11
lnx_how i can change things liek resolution or screen refresh rate ?12:12
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bigleon_I swear i'm going to beat my head through my desk... gah idk linux is hating on met today >.<!!!! arg.... none of the help.ubuntu pages will load12:14
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ScorpKingbigleon_: use w3m to browse :)12:14
bigleon_ScorpKing: What is w3m?12:15
ScorpKingcli browser12:15
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ScorpKingu can also use linx12:15
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Rask330BluesKaj:  ALSA is already selected as KDE's audio device-- it still produces no sound.12:16
bigleon_I'm using firefox. idk why it's all whacky typically it behaves the best for me.12:16
BluesKajRask330, in the terminal type ' alsamixer ', make sure the Master, PCM, Line & CD are all unmuted ,byb using the "M" key12:16
ScorpKingbigleon_: o ya, uhm, i won't advise hitting ur head on the desk, it might hurt a lot. :)12:16
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bigleon_ScorpKing: it would rid fustration kubuntu has been inflicting on me all afternoon. By repleacing it with a different pain.12:17
ScorpKinglol12:17
bigleon_First Kubuntu didnt want to work on my laptop12:17
bigleon_then it did, and updated to 6.1012:17
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bigleon_Now my laptop won't work for me at all (os wise) even recovery on it gone wack.12:17
Rask330BluesKaj:  Done.  Only Line was muted, of those four... but it still produces nothing.12:17
ScorpKingbigleon_: don't you have a 7.04 disk?12:18
bigleon_To top it off, for 1 hour today (before i left for dinner.) Konversation went crazy... and kept dcing from irc channel12:18