[12:39] <cody> ok here itgoes again :D. my fingets are crossed
[12:40] <cody> -_- now i need to find Python livbrary/headers
[12:40] <hydrogen> cody: is the package you are trying to install in the repo?
[12:41] <cody> prolly not,
[12:41] <cody> superkaramba
[12:41] <hydrogen> !info superkaramba
[12:41] <ubotu> superkaramba: a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 533 kB, installed size 1428 kB
[12:41] <hydrogen> so
[12:41] <hydrogen> yes
[12:41] <hydrogen> but if you still feel like installing manually for whatever reason
[12:42] <hydrogen> sudo apt-get build-dep superkaramba
[12:42] <idagas> i can't figure out a damn thing for kubuntu, i have no wired connection and can't seem to get any packages to install...
[12:42] <cody> heh
[12:43] <idagas> is it possible to download all the files you need prior to having intalled kubuntu 7 to get ndiswrapper to work?
[12:43] <Biovore> idagas: yup... just got to know what deb packages you need..  and save them on a cd or something..
[12:43] <cody> yes
[12:44] <idagas> it just seems like you have to have an internet connection to get started
[12:44] <idagas> i'm tryin to do that
[12:44] <zgmf-x20a> !register
[12:44] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[12:44] <idagas> i got a number of kernal modules and build-essential etc...
[12:44] <idagas> can't get them to install
[12:45] <idagas> all the .debs have 'errors can't find...'
[12:46] <BluesKaj> !sources.list
[12:46] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:46] <cody> wow 388meg worth of dependancies
[12:47] <cody> so... how do i run superkaramba?
[12:49] <Biovore> cody: alt-f2 and type superkaramba
[12:49] <Biovore> its in the menu's somewhere as well
[12:50] <cody> you rock
[12:52] <jago_> can some one tell me if there is an equalizer for Kaffeine
[12:53] <bigleon1> Is it possible on kubuntu to seemesly switch between US keyboard and Ger board?
[12:53] <Beyer> Using kubuntu, and cant get sounds working. Mixer cannot be found, how to fix this?
[12:53] <bigleon1> LIke XP there is like this button on app bar i can hit to change them
[12:54] <cody> Thankyouguys soo much
[12:54] <cody> youv been a big help
[12:56] <Beyer> Using kubuntu, and cant get sounds working. Mixer cannot be found,  lspci says Multimedia audio controller ALi
[12:56] <cody> So anyy news on the knetworkmanager alternative
[12:57] <Biovore> cody: the alternitive is not to use it..  (Thats what I do..)
[12:59] <cody> Biovore: How do I connect then?
[12:59] <Beyer> tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat says MIXERS NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG
[12:59] <mauri> it's possibile t resize a partition without to lose data
[01:00] <cody> Im using linksys and knetwork dosnt like linksys
[01:04] <elzbal> mauri: Yes it is, but it's a bit dangerous. You can do a google search for "ubuntu resize partition". The first link looks promising, but I've never done it, so I don't know to suggest any particular method to you.
[01:04] <cody> Trying to install a new mouse theme and there is a make.sh but all it does is opens in kate
[01:06] <mauri> elzbal: ok i supposed
[01:06] <mauri> elzbal: thanks
[01:06] <cody> can anyonepoint me in the correct direction
[01:06] <elzbal> mauri: Like I said, it's a bit dangerous. I'd back up anything you care about first.
[01:07] <mauri> elzbal: sorry i didn't understan
[01:08] <elzbal> mauri: Well, you have the possibility of losing all the data on your machine. So if you want to keep any of it, I'd make a backup first.
[01:08] <mauri> elzbal: ok now it's clear
[01:09] <BluesKaj> mauri check out GParted , a live cd partition editor , which i have used sucessfully several times to resize and move partitions , both linux and windows > I f you are resizng a windows partition however , be sure to defrag it first.
[01:09] <mauri> elzbal: sorry my english is not so good
[01:09] <mauri> elzbal: thank however
[01:09] <elzbal> mauri: No problem.  :)
[01:12] <mauri> BluesKaj: thank you very much
[01:14] <henrik_> hey folks! I think i\ve messed up pretty badly, I have somehow removed my graphic drivers, so my x server didnt want to start.. i mangaged to rewrite xorg.conf into getting kde up again, but things looks like hell, no menu, no clock etc.. first day with kubuntu trying to get my nvidiadrivers to work. Anyone got any suggestions?
[01:19] <scheater5> this may not be the perfect place for this, but I couldn't find a channel on hardware.  Does anyone know anything about the Archos 605 WiFi?
[01:20] <powr> where to look for epson stylus 1270 driver?
[01:20] <scheater5> Or even the Archos brand in general - I have a couple of questions not specific to the 605
[01:21] <powr> scheater5: we dont seem to be lucky
[01:22] <paolo> hi
[01:22] <bigleon1> You guys can always start looking at google
[01:22] <scheater5> powr: so it would seem.  epson stylus...that's a printer?  I don't know where to go for that particullar printer, but in the past I've had luck with the driver the next version up from the printer I have, if it exists.
[01:23] <scheater5> bigleon1:  I've got a couple questions I can't find on google - or maybe I just need some direction on something I don't understand.  Would anyone have a suggestion as to a channel where I might have better luck with a peripheral (it's an internet tablet) question?
[01:24] <rito> hi
[01:24] <rito> something
[01:24] <rito> know how start kopete
[01:26] <bigleon1> scheater5: To be honest man, My keys to starting a search is make sure you include ubuntu, somethign doesn't have to be for kubuntu to work on it. then also check forums, to make sure it isn't a spoof hardware, for example on the Dell 720 Photo Printer, there is an HP printer, that is exact samething with linux drivers out on net. It takes some time man, but just gotta keep your eye open
[01:27] <Beyer> Using kubuntu, and cant get sounds working. Mixer cannot be found,  lspci says Multimedia audio controller ALi
[01:27] <Beyer> tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat says MIXERS NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG
[01:34] <zgmf-x20a_> hey guys having an issue registering here, not sure why, can anyone help me out?
[01:35] <cody> is there a quick and easy way to restart X in kde without restarting thw whole comp?
[01:35] <zgmf-x20a> hmmm ok.... wth?
[01:36] <Daisuke_Laptop> cody: either sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[01:36] <Daisuke_Laptop> or just hit ctrl-alt-backspace
[01:39] <cody> back
[01:39] <cody> and kde ran some wierd wizard that i have never seen b4 and changed all my old settings
[01:41] <BluesKaj> !register
[01:41] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[01:42] <cody> how do i install a new mouse theme
[01:43] <_Angelus_> cody: its because you installed the kde metapackage
[01:43] <_Angelus_> that weird wizer is kpersonalizer
[01:43] <_Angelus_> or something
[01:43] <felipe_> hi
[01:43] <BluesKaj> !hi
[01:43] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[01:44] <_Angelus_> if you want everything back cody  "sudo dpkg --reconfigure kubuntu-default-settings" if im not wrong
[01:44] <felipe_> someone know how configure kubuntu feisty to use usb mass storage drivers?
[01:44] <level1> hi, I installed kubuntu with the alternate install cd about a month ago, and I gave it my wireless info and wep key so it could log into my internet... anyway, it must of written it down somewhere and now knetworkmanager won't manager my connections, it just shows the ethernet icon no matter what my connection status is.  wlanassist still works, but I want knetworkmanager in commission again
[01:46] <cody> nope but can anyone help me install a mouse theme?
[01:47] <level1> felipe_: usually that should "just work"  so either the file format on the disk (ntfs) doesn't work or you have very unusual hard ware
[01:47] <level1> felipe_: if your using ntfs, htfs+, or some unusual file system, there are special things you have to do to get it working
[01:48] <BluesKaj> cody, system settings/keyboard&mouse
[01:48] <felipe_> it dont recognizes any pendrive that i connect
[01:48] <cody> i tried
[01:48] <cody> im installing a new one
[01:48] <cody> its extracted to my deskto
[01:48] <cody> p
[01:48] <level1> felipe_: what file format is it?  do you know?
[01:49] <felipe_> its...
[01:49] <felipe_> amm...
[01:49] <felipe_> ntfs
[01:49] <felipe_> but kubuntu reads my another partitions
[01:49] <level1> felipe_: ah, you have to install a package and do some other stuff
[01:49] <level1> !ntfs | felipe_
[01:49] <ubotu> felipe_: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:49] <felipe_> i can see them
[01:49] <level1> !ntfs-3g | felipe_
[01:49] <ubotu> felipe_: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[01:50] <felipe_> i cant see my pendrives or my ipod
[01:50] <level1> what do you mean you can't see them... where are you looking?
[01:50] <felipe_> am looking at /dev/
[01:50] <felipe_> and...
[01:51] <felipe_> media:/
[01:52] <level1> well, kubuntu probably sees your drives and attempts to mount them, but if they are ntfs then it will not mount them unless you follow the instructions ubotu gave you
[01:52] <bigleon1> !anyone know how to find my current verison of kubuntu in my terminal?
[01:52] <BluesKaj> most pen drives are FAT32 , they shouldbe recognized
[01:52] <level1> bigleo
[01:53] <level1> oh, he left
[01:53] <BluesKaj> lotta patience there :)
[01:53] <level1> lol, guess it wasn't that important
[01:54] <felipe_> ok
[01:54] <felipe_> but i write "sudo fdisk -l" should be listed my pendrive?
[01:54] <level1> BluesKaj: will they have ntfs by default in gutsy?  it seems like it would be ommision otherwise
[01:54] <felipe_> but if i write...*
[01:54] <level1> felipe_: yeah, it should
[01:54] <felipe_> ok i'll do it
[01:55] <level1> felipe_: if it doesn't maybe there is a problem
[01:55] <BluesKaj> level1, dunno for sure but most USB sticks come preformatted in FAT32 to the best of my knowledge
[01:55] <level1> ntfs on usb stick isn't impossible
[01:56] <felipe_> level1: it doesn't show my pendrive D:
[01:56] <BluesKaj> of course not , one can format to linux as well
[01:57] <felipe_> what i can do?
[01:57] <level1> felipe_: really?  hmmm...  I don't think I know enough to solve that
[01:58] <felipe_> :(
[01:58] <level1> felipe_: could you "sudo lspci" and see if there is anything that looks like your pen drive?
[01:58] <Yendor> HOW do I switch Knetworkmanager back to roaming mode please!?!?!
[01:58] <felipe_> ok
[01:58] <level1> Yendor: what do you mean roaming mode?
[01:59] <Yendor> Level1: I mean all I'm seeing on Knetworkmanager is Manual configuration!
[01:59] <level1> oh, yeah I have that issue too
[01:59] <Yendor> And I cannot join wi-fi like this...all this when I have my wifi card installed correctly
[01:59] <Yendor> so how do you connect?
[01:59] <level1> Yendor: did you install with the alternative install cd?
[02:00] <level1> Yendor: I use wlanassist
[02:00] <Yendor> no I used the normal edition
[02:00] <Yendor> Oh damn I havent that installed :(
[02:00] <level1> Yendor: you can find it under KMenu>Internet if you have it installed
[02:00] <level1> catch 22
[02:01] <Yendor> I dont have it installed :(
[02:01] <level1> well, you can manually install it by downloading the .deb and all its dependencies... I don't really know how to do that
[02:01] <level1> if you can get online by any method, you can use apt to install it
[02:01] <Yendor> well... let try manual wired connection
[02:02] <felipe_> level1: i don't see any pendrive or ipod when i did sudo lspci
[02:02] <level1> felipe_: could you try lsusb?  it should be a similar output, but maybe theres some hope
[02:03] <felipe_> i did it yerterday when i read a tutorial
[02:03] <felipe_> but
[02:03] <felipe_> it doesnt return any line
[02:04] <felipe_> it "hang" the system but witout stopping it
[02:04] <felipe_> i speak spanish sorry xD
[02:04] <felipe_> felipe@localhost:~$ sudo lsusb
[02:04] <felipe_> and it stays there
[02:04] <zgmf-x20a> hey guys quick question about registering.  when trying to setup the alternate account, do i have to create it with its own different password and THEN lnik it to my primary account???
[02:05] <felipe_> level1: it just write a blank line and after it doesnt ask for another command :(
[02:05] <zgmf-x20a> anyone?
[02:05] <level1> hmmm... thats weird
[02:06] <level1> zgmf-x20a: do you mean adding a user?
[02:06] <zgmf-x20a> sort of.  i have already registered the one account, just trying to add the second, alternate
[02:06] <zgmf-x20a> following the walk thru
[02:06] <Sanne> zgmf-x20a: do you mean here on freenode?
[02:08] <zgmf-x20a> Sanne: yup.  i have registered this account with pw succesfully, but having an issue with the alternate account part of the walthru.  so for the second account, do i first register that second account and then link to my primary account, is that what its saying?
[02:08] <Sanne> zgmf-x20a: do you follow this? http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[02:08] <felipe_> level1: and if i start kernel modules?
[02:09] <felipe_> what are the modules tu use usb mass?
[02:09] <zgmf-x20a> Sanne: yes, im at step 4/5
[02:09] <Sanne> zgmf-x20a: I'm reading, trying to refresh my memory of what I did
[02:09] <BluesKaj> which IRC client are you using zgmf-x20a
[02:10] <zgmf-x20a> Sanne: because basically, i change my nick thru the box to the left of this place im typing, and then try out that alternate register command and it doesnt work, it says i have to register??? so i am confused
[02:10] <JuJuBee> Should I download and install netbeans from the sun site or use apt-get?
[02:10] <zgmf-x20a> BluesKaj: im using konversation
[02:11] <zgmf-x20a> so my question is, do i first have to register that alternate nick with a diff password and then tie the wtwo together?
[02:12] <zgmf-x20a> with the step 5 command?
[02:12] <nicio> hhi
[02:12] <Sanne> zgmf-x20a: I understand (and think I remember doing it that way) as you said, register the alternate nick with the same password.
[02:12] <zgmf-x20a> Sanne: ooooo really, ok ill try that
[02:13] <bongfrog> Here is a strange one I need some advice with...   I can install kubuntu on my dell just fine when it is connected to a normal monitor.   But when I move it to my LCD tv that should display in 1360 796 the fonts are so big it is unusable.
[02:14] <nicio> why is konqueror so buggi?right now im updaten and i went to this webside http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/gamecube/list_x.html and the words are stick on together how do i regulate this?
[02:14] <BluesKaj> zgmf-x20a, yes the instructions tell you to use your primary nick password
[02:14] <bongfrog> any ideas where I should look??   Google is not my friend on this one.....
[02:14] <zgmf-x20a_>  /msg nickserv link zgmf-x20a skill_0
[02:15] <zgmf-x20a_> lol.... crap
[02:15] <Azzco> nicio: Looks fine to me
[02:15] <Sanne> nicio: might not necessarily be konquis fault... there are many many websites with broken HTML, and that one you mentioned has a lot of errors.
[02:15] <fungos> anyone having problem to connect psp in kubuntu?
[02:16] <rdvon> I'm trying to get my frets on fire game to rip all the songs off of guitar hero II, but I cant figure out where the cd is mounted... :\
[02:16] <zgmf-x20a> ok, so now how do i change a password cause the silly thing doesnt work ... :@
[02:16] <nicio> Sanne: i left xp to install kubuntu on explorer the site show good
[02:16] <Azzco> rdvon: open konqueror and type in /media as the address, most likely it'll help ;)
[02:17] <rdvon> Azzco: frets on fire says it cant find it when I type in /media! I'm not stupid xD
[02:17] <rdvon> media/cdrom0 that is.
[02:17] <rdvon> :)
[02:17] <Sanne> nicio: hmmm, looks quite usable to me in my Konqueror.
[02:17] <nicio> Azzco: u check it with konqueror?can u show me your settings for your fonts?
[02:18] <JuJuBee> I just installed sun java 6, netbeans in repo's uses v. 5, is that a big deal?  apt-get is now trying to install sun java 5
[02:18] <nicio> Sanne: it might be my fonts that need to be change
[02:18] <BluesKaj> nicio, that page looks the same in FF and konq
[02:18] <begert> if i want to compile my own stuff, where should I have the source code?
[02:18] <Azzco> nicio: The only thing I can think of is in setting appearance and I think that's only for the filemanager part not the web browsing
[02:19] <nicio> BluesKaj: are the words coupt up for u because i can hardly see some words?
[02:19] <zgmf-x20a> how do i join more channels?
[02:19] <zgmf-x20a> #ubuntu
[02:19] <begert> file -> join channel
[02:19] <Sanne> zgmf-x20a: type /join #channel
[02:20] <BluesKaj> no nicio . it looks fine
[02:20] <zgmf-x20a> ic ic, now that i am registered here, does that automatically apply to every channel i join???
[02:20] <Sanne> nicio: play with Settings->Configure Konqueror->TT Fonts
[02:20] <nicio> BluesKaj: i launch kotepe it keep login in and out why?is it because im putting linux up to date?
[02:21] <Sanne> zgmf-x20a: yes, I think the registering applies to the whole freenode network
[02:21] <nicio> Sanne: i was playing with the fonts it didnt change nada
[02:21] <Sanne> nicio: weird
[02:21] <Sanne> nicio: how about view->enlarge/shrink font?
[02:21] <zgmf-x20a> Sanne: sweet.  ok, so one more thing, how do i perm add these different networks, so when i log in again they all come back up
[02:22] <nicio> Sanne: it saparate a little but if i go any smaller i wont be able to see nada
[02:22] <Sanne> zgmf-x20a: you mean the different channels on freenode?
[02:22] <zgmf-x20a> Sanne: yes
[02:22] <nicio> Sanne: view->enlarge/shrink font dont work
[02:23] <Sanne> zgmf-x20a: (for Konversation) File->Server List->Edit, you can put channel names in the autojoin field
[02:23] <nicio> zgmf-x20a: i tink u add them in bookmarks if its memorize the channel u want
[02:24] <Sanne> nicio: works fine here... I suspect there's something else amiss with your settings, I'm running out of ideas unfortunately... anybody has a better idea for nicio?
[02:24] <zgmf-x20a> Sanne: yup thats what im looking for autojoin.  sweeeeeeeeeet
[02:24] <Sanne> zgmf-x20a: :)
[02:25] <zgmf-x20a> where can i find a list of channels?
[02:25] <rixxon> I configure network manager for static nameservers but they change seemingly randomly. It's even more wierd because the router is set to use these nameservers too, and yet Kubuntu changes back to the ISP DNS all the time.
[02:25] <rixxon> I don't want those nameservers, they are wrongly configured and suck badly.
[02:26] <nicio> zgmf-x20a:  type /list
[02:26] <Sanne> zgmf-x20a: there's a channel list command, but use it sparingly, it uses lots of bandwidth for the server. It's under window->channel list (F5 by default)
[02:26] <zgmf-x20a> cool, thanks sanne
[02:27] <Sanne> :)
[02:28] <nicio> Sanne: what do i have to install to view videos on youtube with konqueror?
[02:29] <NickPresta> !flash | nicio
[02:29] <ubotu> nicio: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[02:29] <Sanne> nicio: I don't knwo, sorry. I use a manually installed Firefox with a manually installed flash player...
[02:29] <Sanne> there yougo :)
[02:30] <nicio> Sanne: player?in real player?
[02:31] <nicio> Sanne: i cant send no msg to none of my contacts in kotepe.how do i solve this?
[02:32] <kranshi> :D
[02:32] <kranshi> hi
[02:32] <kranshi> holas
[02:32] <kranshi> hola
[02:33] <kranshi> quienes aqui?
[02:33] <BluesKaj> !es | kranshi
[02:33] <ubotu> kranshi: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:33] <nicio> Sanne: i cant send no msg to none of my contacts in kotepe.how do i solve this? NickPresta
[02:34] <nicio> BluesKaj: kotepe keep login in and out,why?
[02:35] <BluesKaj> dunno , nicio sorry :(
[02:35] <Biovore> nicio: using kopete for what?  aim?
[02:35] <nicio> BluesKaj: does it have anybody can help me?
[02:35] <nicio> Biovore: msn
[02:36] <nicio> Biovore: whats is aim?
[02:36] <Biovore> msn keeps changing there login scheme.. I don't know if msn works with kopete
[02:36] <Biovore> nicio: Aol Instant Messanger
[02:36] <Biovore> nicio: try amsn
[02:37] <Dragnslcr> I haven't had any trouble with MSN in Kopete
[02:37] <nicio> Biovore: it does work with msn befor i reinstall kubuntu it was working
[02:37] <Dragnslcr> Not that I use it much, but I can connect fine
[02:37] <Biovore> well I don't use MSN..
[02:37] <nicio> Biovore: amsn is very ugl**
[02:37] <Biovore> won't argue there
[02:38] <BluesKaj> Biovore, msn works in kopete
[02:38] <Biovore> ok.. cool.. I wasn't sure it did or not..
[02:38] <nicio> linux driven me crazy tonight q_p :(
[02:39] <level1_> nicio: did you try pidgin (aka gaim)?  I prefer kopete myself, but you might have more luck with pidgin
[02:41] <nicio> level1_: didnt like piding either to simple dont have enought to satify.i like kotepe kotepe does everythingxcept a little problem with the cam and to add my friends smileys
[02:41] <fungos> When I try to plug PSP:  [ 1489.620604]  usb 2-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4 [ 1501.154848]  usb 2-2: device not accepting address 4, error -110
[02:41] <fungos> what is that?
[02:42] <level1_> yeah, the only thing i can't figure out with kopete is how to send and recive pictures through a direct connection... there just doesn't seem to be an interface for that, has it just not been implemented?
[02:42] <nicio> fungos: i never had problem with my psp once plug in it shows as an ipod
[02:43] <fungos> that error rerpeats 7 times with different address ... :S  is anyway to force it?
[02:44] <killermach> I had some smbmounts on /media and now it's just hosed.. I can mount them somewhere else in the filesystem, what governs the /media folder? how do I unbreak this?
[02:46] <level1_> killermach: well, /media is really for external devices like usb drives...
[02:47] <killermach> ok.. but now I need to remove the folders I made.. and I cannot even do an ls -al /media, it hangs
[02:47] <level1_> wow, thats weird
[02:47] <level1_> have you rebooted since then?
[02:48] <nicio> level1_: my updates is about to finish can i just log ou an in insted of restartin to apply the updates?
[02:48] <flaccid> killermach: hald does, but you can do what you want in there too
[02:48] <nicio> out*
[02:48] <level1_> nicio: you mean adept updater?
[02:48] <nicio> yes
[02:48] <level1_> nicio: you really don't have to do anything
[02:49] <nicio> oh
[02:49] <level1_> nicio: but at somepoint, you may consider rebooting just to "flush the cache" if you will
[02:49] <level1_> some things like kernel updates need a reboot, but usually its not urgent
[02:50] <killermach> flaccid: well it hosed my /etc/fstab smbmounts, worked last night and all last month, but now I have to mount them in /smbmounts folder
[02:50] <flaccid> killermach: define hosed and show me the error when trying to mount them
[02:51] <killermach> I'm mounting filesystems from a centos5, I don't really need smb for that, does anyone have suggestions on a better way?
[02:51] <fungos> nice, psp working, just needed to do a "sudo rmmod ehci_hcd"
[02:51] <flaccid> killermach: what is the fileystem type
[02:54] <killermach> flaccid: I get this error->
[02:54] <killermach> 22077: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)
[02:54] <killermach> SMB connection failed
[02:55] <purpleposeidon> So I was at school, yo, and I had connected home with NX, and one of my friends sits down and logs into the computer next to me. He notices what I'm doing, and connects to his computer with RDP.. and mine's like 5 times faster. >:-)
[02:57] <flaccid> killermach: samba is misconfigured
[02:57] <nicio> level1_: i have one hdd separat in 2 one is xp ntfs the next is data fat32.i install ntfs-config then run kdesu ntfs-config to enable rite etc it mount my xp automat but it didnt say nothing for the data or mount it.do i have to mount it in a way manualy?
[02:57] <flaccid> killermach: is this share local or on the network?
[02:58] <killermach> share is on the network on the LAN
[02:59] <flaccid> !samba | killermach
[02:59] <ubotu> killermach: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:59] <nicio> killermach: 
[02:59] <flaccid> read that guide and learn samba. problem is your samba config.
[03:00] <nicio> killermach: ^^
[03:00] <level1_> nicio: well, theres a command... It would be something like pmount -t ntfs-3g /dev/yourdevice
[03:00] <level1_> does that do anything
[03:00] <killermach> samba works.. I moved the mount points from /media/mountpoint to /samba/mountpoint, then did mount -a and all mounts mounted
[03:01] <zgmf-x20a> #mame
[03:01] <nicio> level1_: error
[03:01] <flaccid> killermach: then why did you paste me an access denied error
[03:01] <killermach> no windows on my network any more.. so samba was there for that.. but if there is a better way to setup with nfs or the like maybe I should use it instead
[03:01] <level1_> nicio: what error?
[03:02] <nicio> level1_: i'll do it from system settings
[03:02] <flaccid> killermach: so does samba work or not...
[03:02] <flaccid> no need to use nfs
[03:02] <level1_> what was the error?!?
[03:02] <killermach> samba works. all mounts are mounted , but not in /media
[03:02] <killermach>  /media is broken/hosed/bjorked
[03:02] <flaccid> killermach: i don't think you are listening at all.
[03:03] <killermach> you asked is samba working.. samba is on the remote machine and works
[03:03] <flaccid> samba client and samba server..
[03:03] <killermach> this local machine can even mount smbfs shares from that remote machine
[03:03] <zgmf-x20a> #amarok
[03:03] <flaccid> killermach: so you have no problem?
[03:03] <nicio> level1_: pmount -t ntfs-3g /dev/yourdevice
[03:04] <flaccid> i think i give up on users like this
[03:04] <level1_> nicio: but what was the error?!?
[03:04] <killermach> they both work fine, I just cannot put shares in /media which is where they have been for the last few months
[03:04] <nicio> level1_: sorry Error: device /dev/yourdevice does not exist
[03:04] <johnficca> what is a good open source driver for the ATI Radeon Mobility X1400?
[03:04] <flaccid> killermach: well you can put shares in media and you gave me an access denied to share error so. you can either believe me and the error or believe yourself..
[03:04] <nicio> level1_: dos dont ctrl+c lol
[03:04] <level1_> nicio: I didn't mean "yourdevice" literally, I mean't the name of you device
[03:04] <johnficca> my friend is having a hard time getting it to work
[03:05] <flaccid> killermach: /mnt is the more appropriate place to mount smb anyway
[03:05] <level1_> johnficca: vesa
[03:05] <BluesKaj> my samba works well when i connect to my wifes pc ..I can read/write to the shared files there but when i try to use samba from her pc to read/write on the linux pc , the permissions are impossible to setup .
[03:05] <johnficca> level1_: doesn't work for beyle
[03:05] <level1_> johnficca: I have that exact card, and I find I only have two options: vesa and fglrx
[03:05] <johnficca> level1_: ok
[03:05] <level1_> johnficca: there is no single driver in the world that will run beryl on that card that is also open source
[03:05] <cody> I just rebooted my comp and now its a bit laggy
[03:05] <cody> any ideas
[03:05] <level1_> johnficca: sorry
[03:05] <johnficca> level1_: does the fglrx work good for you
[03:06] <level1_> johnficca: no, I don't use
[03:06] <level1_> johnficca: I have used it, but it caused too many issues
[03:06] <killermach> flaccid: thanks /mnt is is then
[03:07] <level1_> johnficca: you might be able to get nv to work (I can't) but that won't give you beryl or compiz
[03:07] <nicio> level1_: adept crash on me while installing updates at 60% what should i do?
[03:07] <flaccid> killermach: i would advise putting the share in fstab correctly...
[03:07] <zgmf-x20a> !webcam
[03:07] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[03:07] <level1_> johnficca: btw, most people are using compiz fusion now
[03:07] <level1_> nicio: hmmm... well, I don't know, thats not good, lol... how much disk space do you have?
[03:08] <nicio> level1_: by watch the detail it look like it still running the install but it has a msg in frot of it
[03:08] <level1_> whats the error?
[03:09] <nicio> level1_: i have enought disk space 20gigs
[03:09] <level1_> whats the error?
[03:09] <johnficca> level1_: nv is for nvidia cards no?
[03:09] <nicio> level1_: its a new install im doing
[03:09] <level1_> john
[03:10] <zgmf-x20a> hmm... anyone a webcam expert by any chance?  just wondering if my fusion would be similar to any other webcams and could install those drivers and it would then work
[03:10] <level1_> johnficca: sorry, my mistake
[03:10] <johnficca> level1_: its ok
[03:10] <level1_> johnficca: I mean radeon or ati... I'm not sure if they're different
[03:10] <level1_> johnficca: I couldn't get those to work on my card in my lappy, but you might have more luck
[03:12] <level1_> johnficca: you might be in luck... they're coming out with a new driver called r500 avivo, which will work on our cards, but they are not done yet... also, amd annouced they would release some of the specs just a few days ago, so here's hoping
[03:13] <level1_> (fingers crossed)
[03:16] <nicio> level1_: whats the poin in installin a new kernel?
[03:17] <level1_> nicio: new things are always better
[03:17] <nicio> level1_: like vista to xp?
[03:17] <nicio> lol*
[03:17] <level1_> nicio: seriously though, new kernels are usually faster and more reliable, and have better features
[03:18] <level1_> more hardware support
[03:18] <level1_> nicio: oh, you noticed I was sarcastic
[03:18] <tekstacy> 'lo all
[03:18] <level1_> hi
[03:18] <nicio> hey
[03:19] <tekstacy> Is there a utility to see how my physical memory is set up? ie: how many sticks, speed, etc..
[03:19] <level1_> ideally, they wouldn't write new things if they weren't "better" in some way, but you know how that works
[03:20] <tekstacy> I want to upgrade, but don't know if I have 1 gb stick, or 2 halves
[03:20] <NickPresta> tekstacy, why not open up the case? If you're careful, you won't damage anything...
[03:20] <level1_> tekstacy: if you use "free" it will tell you how much usuable ram you have
[03:21] <level1_> tekstacy: you ram is probably evenly destributed around your sticks, so each stick has the same amount, so you just devide
[03:21] <tekstacy> I guess I'll have to crack it, but it's a real pia,
[03:21] <BluesKaj> tekstacy, dunno if this meets your requirements but htop gives a list of running processes including memory
[03:22] <level1_> hey, its like top, but with colors!
[03:23] <level1_> BluesKaj: why is it possible for me to have many programs running at the same time which collectively use more than 100% cpu?
[03:23] <tekstacy> hey, thanks. That was cool. Didn't help, but I learned something    :)
[03:24] <nicio> level1_: what is "free"?
[03:24] <level1_> nicio: is a program that tells you how much memory is "free" and some other stuff
[03:25] <nicio> level1_: so? sudo apt-get install free?
[03:25] <level1_> if you want
[03:25] <level1_> it should be included, I don't think you ineed to install it
[03:25] <BluesKaj> level1_, good question ... cpu overhead capacity maybe ?
[03:26] <level1_> BluesKaj: is it possible, since I have a quadcore, that the real capacity of my cpu is not 100% but 400%?
[03:26] <nicio> level1_: the reson i reinstall linux because everytime i download a anime from a website it slows down my pc a lot
[03:26] <tekstacy> I had to install htop, but it was painless
[03:26] <BluesKaj> free -m
[03:26] <level1_> nicio: are you filling up you hard drive?
[03:26] <nicio> level1_: and sometimes it freeze after a while
[03:27] <level1_> nicio: because otherwise I don't believe that downloading anime is the source of the problem
[03:27] <nicio> level1_: no it had only 28%use
[03:27] <level1_> yeah, not the problem
[03:27] <nicio> level1_: so its linux problem then?
[03:27] <level1_> your doing something else that causing it... what, is a mystery
[03:28] <level1_> well, of course its a linux problem
[03:28] <Biovore> nicio: I watch anime all the time on linux..  you pulling over a wifi connection?
[03:28] <nicio> level1_: lol i try closin everything befor i download it still was slowin down the pc it didnt stop buggin untill i log out an in
[03:29] <level1_> oh, you mean the download itself... you must have a weird connection
[03:29] <nicio> Biovore: i got wifi but why hurt my head when i can just plug the router on the pc?
[03:29] <BluesKaj> level1_, perhaps cpu-utils isn't able to read quad core
[03:29] <nicio> BluesKaj: quad core???
[03:30] <tekstacy> Is k able to monitor temp and control fans as good as xp?
[03:30] <Fusion^> hi. how do i restart just my kde panel?
[03:30] <level1_> BluesKaj: where can I find statistic on my cpu temp?
[03:30] <nicio> pause i try to finish a race in mario kart
[03:30] <level1_> tekstacy: its nice... probably a bit unnessary, but its plenty fast and works just fine
[03:31] <tekstacy> it it like the C2, w/ multiple cores on one cache?
[03:32] <level1_> tekstacy: well, I'm told intel just sandwiched (literally) two core 2 duos on top of eachother
[03:32] <BluesKaj> level1_, theres some cpu monitor tools available but I've never bothered , so i dunno the appnames
[03:32] <level1_> tekstacy: as you might expect, thats causes some thermal issues, but I haven't had a problem
[03:32] <tekstacy> try "cpu temp" in Adept, I saw something there last night, but forgot the name
[03:32] <level1_> maybe I'm better off not know that my cpu is topping 70
[03:32] <nicio> i got one name everest on xp i maybe can work on linux with wine :p lol
[03:33] <nicio> it tells u everything even the websites where to update your hardware etc
[03:34] <NickPresta> tekstacy, I like using 'sensors' to mointor my voltage, fan speed and temp.
[03:35] <tekstacy> If I took a windows system hdd and pluged it in as an external hdd, would k shit itself?
[03:35] <tekstacy> I think that may be what I was looking at
[03:37] <tekstacy> I was thinking of setting up a spare drive with xp, just in case I ever need it, but using it as an external drive when I don't.
[03:37] <NickPresta> !language | tekstacy
[03:37] <ubotu> tekstacy: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:37] <nicio> tekstacy: no it wont
[03:37] <NickPresta> and it should be fine, provided you're using FAT or some ntfs driver
[03:37] <tekstacy> :(   sorry
[03:39] <tekstacy> Anyone here try a virtual xp setup?
[03:39] <hydrogen> yes
[03:40] <tekstacy> does it work well?, stable, practical?
[03:40] <nicio> tekstacy: wat is it?
[03:41] <tekstacy> Like VirtualPC Or Virtual Box, to make a virtual XP system within linux
[03:41] <hydrogen> tekstacy: yea
[03:42] <tekstacy> what do you use for virtual?
[03:42] <Fusion^> what's the command line for restarting the kde panel/kicker? thanks
[03:42] <hydrogen> virtualbox
[03:43] <tekstacy> cool, I will try it tonight
[03:43] <nicio> Fusion^: what is the panel/kicker
[03:43] <nicio> ?
[03:44] <flaccid> the command is kicker. kicker is the main panel
[03:44] <hydrogen> Fusion^: dcop kicker kicker restart
[03:44] <inaety_> how could i set up a remote login so i could remote into from just a website (no software needed) on a windows computer
[03:44] <nicio> im confus?
[03:44] <Fusion^> hydrogen: thanks
[03:45] <hydrogen> inaety_: you really couldn't..
[03:45] <hydrogen> however
[03:45] <hydrogen> putty is really lightweight
[03:45] <hydrogen> and allows you to ssh in from windows
[03:46] <inaety_> hydrogen: thanks ill look into it
[03:46] <Fusion^> hydrogen: my other systray icons disappeared when i did dcop kicker kicker restart
[03:47] <flaccid> just goto alt+f2 and run kicker
[03:47] <flaccid> if it crashes again, you have a problem
[03:49] <tekstacy> hydrogen, any advice before I try this?
[03:50] <hydrogen> nope
[03:50] <hydrogen> just install virtualbox
[03:50] <hydrogen> and put your cd in
[03:50] <hydrogen> and start it
[03:50] <tekstacy> I guess it will take a few hours?
[03:51] <hydrogen> not really
[03:51] <hydrogen> it only took me like 30 minutes to install
[03:51] <hydrogen> but my computers a beast
[03:51] <tekstacy> :)   I'm on a laptop
[03:51] <tekstacy> But it's a beast for a laptop
[03:52] <hydrogen> me too
[03:52] <inaety_> hydrogen: how would i set it up on my ubuntu computer to have it "be open for remoting"
[03:53] <hydrogen> inaety_: do you mean a remote desktop or just remote access to the console?
[03:53] <tekstacy> I've only been using linux a couple weeks, I'm still amazed at it's common-sense simplicity mixed with maddening complexity, makes me feel like a kid with these things again
[03:53] <inaety_> hydrogen: remote desktop so i can look at X and stuff
[03:53] <hatter_> everytime i reboot my kubuntu box, the desktop icons are bundled on top of each other in the corner
[03:53] <hydrogen> inaety_: no clue :)
[03:53] <hydrogen> inaety_: I've never had a need to do it so I'm not sure
[03:54] <inaety_> hydrogen: really just fun and so i can go on it from school...
[03:54] <inaety_> impress my teacher
[03:55] <hydrogen> yea
[03:55] <hydrogen> I'm not sure
[03:55] <hydrogen> someone else should know
[03:55] <hydrogen> !rdc
[03:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rdc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:55] <hydrogen> !rdcp
[03:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rdcp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:55] <hydrogen> !remote
[03:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remote - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:55] <nicio> hatter_: try placin all good then log out then restart it work for me hope it would for u
[03:55] <hydrogen> I think you want to use something called krdc
[03:55] <nicio> !flood | hydrogen
[03:55] <ubotu> hydrogen: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:56] <hydrogen> err
[03:56] <hatter_> nicio, thats the thing, on reboot, the all move to corner on top of each other
[03:56] <hydrogen> thats not really that helpful....
[03:56] <hydrogen> nicio: unless you want me to type answers to everyones question and pastebin them
[03:56] <nicio> hatter_: have u try log out befor rebooting
[03:56] <hydrogen> you probably wanted...
[03:56] <hydrogen> !enter
[03:56] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[03:56] <hydrogen> but thats a silly rule
[03:56] <hatter_> nicio, i see, i will try this
[03:57] <EightiesK> if i update from dapper to feisty will i need to reinstall all my drivers and what not?
[03:57] <hatter_> i think rebooting logs out first though ?
[03:57] <nicio> hydrogen: i dont understand that rule about enter
[03:57] <soulrider> !mp3
[03:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:57] <hitmanWilly> nicio: don't
[03:57] <hitmanWilly> use
[03:57] <hitmanWilly> enter
[03:57] <hitmanWilly> as
[03:57] <EightiesK> if i update from dapper to feisty will i need to reinstall all my drivers and what not?
[03:57] <hitmanWilly> punctuation :)
[03:57] <nicio> hatter_: log out is log out reboot is reboot(restart)
[03:57] <killermach> still cannot manage to delete /media/sharedirectories
[03:58] <hitmanWilly> nicio, it gets really annoying
[03:58] <evan__> hi all, total KDE noob here. i looked at kubuntu forums and couldnt really find the info i need. what is the synaptic equivilant on KDE? i need the repos to install third party support. any straight up answers would help or just point me to some good late night reading
[03:59] <BluesKaj> EightiesK, kinda difficult to update directly to feisty from dapper ...update to edgy first, then from edgy to feisty..and yes you wil need to upgrade some hardware drivers
[03:59] <Azzco> evan__: adept
[03:59] <hitmanWilly> evan__, you can either install synaptic itself, or use adept
[03:59] <nicio> hitmanWilly: i still dont understand im from a french country.what do u mean by puntuation?u mean when i want to tell someone something i have to press send insted of pressing enter?
[04:00] <evan__> well i am fairly familar with GNOME, but adept better?
[04:00] <hitmanWilly> nicio, don't split up messages between lines
[04:00] <killermach> ls
[04:00] <hitmanWilly> nicio, for example, use a . instead of starting a new line
[04:00] <hydrogen> !fr | nicio
[04:00] <ubotu> nicio: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:00] <hydrogen> you may find that channel nicer as well
[04:00] <hydrogen> though at 2 in the morning its probably pretty dead
[04:02] <hitmanWilly> evan__, that depends, personally i use the cmd line
[04:02] <nicio> hydrogen: no fr its dead down there q_p
[04:03] <nicio> hydrogen: it's allways dead
[04:03] <evan__> hitmanwilly: ok, is there a simialr easyubuntu for mutlimedia codecs?
[04:03] <hitmanWilly> evan__, look into medibuntu
[04:04] <evan__> ok
[04:04] <hitmanWilly> !medibuntu | evan
[04:04] <ubotu> evan: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[04:04] <evan__> tyvm
[04:04] <hitmanWilly> evan__, its just a set of repos that can be included in any *buntu variant
[04:04] <Jucato> !ubuntustudio
[04:04] <ubotu> UbuntuStudio is a site for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best parts of Audio/Graphical/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories, and extra! Available at http://ubuntustudio.tv Or visit #ubuntustudio.
[04:04] <Jucato> hm... nvm
[04:07] <Fusion^> i installed compiz fusion, how would i know if im on xgl or aiglx?
[04:08] <tekstacy> Bye all, thanks for the help
[04:09] <nicio> wo can tell ma what to install for firefox to see flash?
[04:09] <nicio> wa*
[04:09] <hydrogen> nsplugin
[04:09] <hydrogen> I believe
[04:09] <Jucato> nicio: flashplugin-nonfree
[04:09] <hydrogen> !info nsplugin
[04:09] <ubotu> Package nsplugin does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[04:09] <hydrogen> or that
[04:09] <Jucato> :)
[04:09] <hydrogen> sounds a bit more likely
[04:09] <hydrogen> I think I'll go get food.
[04:09] <Jucato> what's for lunch/dinner? :)
[04:10] <alirio> hello i have  a question
[04:10] <Jucato> !ask
[04:10] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:10] <hydrogen> its for midnight snack
[04:10] <hydrogen> and I'm not sure
[04:10] <Jucato> oh midnight hehe :)
[04:10] <alirio> is there small display in amarok as windows media player 10 or 11
[04:10] <alirio> ???
[04:10] <hydrogen> yea
[04:11] <hydrogen> but its ugly
[04:11] <hydrogen> and won't be there in 2.0
[04:11] <alirio> why?
[04:11] <nicio> hydrogen: how can they say nsplugin dont exist and im seing it.but its install allready
[04:11] <nicio> nonfree too
[04:11] <hydrogen> nicio: install flashplugin-nonfree
[04:11] <Jucato> alirio: see for yourself: Settings -> Show Player Window
[04:11] <nicio> hydrogen:  done
[04:11] <hitmanWilly> nicio, its a way to use firefox/mozilla plugins in konq
[04:11] <Jucato> nicio: by nonfree it doesn't mean you have to pay for it
[04:11] <hydrogen> alirio: because no one has maintained it in Amarok for a long time...
[04:11] <nicio> lol ok
[04:12] <alirio> mmmm, but it isn't in amarok yet???
[04:12] <Jucato> nonfree = not free/open source software
[04:12] <hydrogen> alirio: no, its there
[04:12] <Jucato> [10:11]  <Jucato> alirio: see for yourself: Settings -> Show Player Window
[04:12] <alirio> ok
[04:13] <hydrogen> you may be happier with kirocker though
[04:13] <alirio> and?
[04:13] <hydrogen> its a really kool kicker app
[04:13] <nicio> hydrogen: kirocker???
[04:13] <hydrogen> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=52869
[04:15] <scrip> I've  installed libqt4 and libqt4-dev but my config script is still broken, says it can't find the headers and libraries
[04:15] <Jucato> scrip: maybe it needs Qt3 and not Qt4?
[04:16] <nicio> hydrogen: is kirocker in adept?
[04:16] <hydrogen> doesn't seem to be
[04:16] <Jucato> nope
[04:16] <Biovore> scrip: apt-get install kde-devel
[04:17] <Jucato> scrip: what are you trying to compile?
[04:17] <Jucato> Biovore: might be a tad too much... most of the time kdelibs4-dev does it
[04:17] <evan__> is a restart required after install of mediabuntu, so i know if things worked ok
[04:18] <Jucato> um.. no...
[04:18] <hitmanWilly> iirc, the newer qt4 libs can emulate qt3
[04:18] <evan__> hmm, my restricted files no play
[04:18] <Jucato> hitmanWilly: not if the program depends on Qt 3
[04:18] <hitmanWilly> well, yeah, but compiling should work
[04:18] <Jucato> evan__: you might need to restart the app that tries to play it
[04:18] <Jucato> hitmanWilly: really? not from my experience. but I can't experience everything
[04:19] <hitmanWilly> evan__, what did you do exactly, just add the repos?
[04:19] <Jucato> besides the fact that Qt4 and Qt3 are source and binary incompatible
[04:19] <Jucato> but there's that package to emulate it if that's what you mean.
[04:19] <hitmanWilly> Jucato, well, im not an expert or anything, plus about the only time I compile anything is on my gentoo box
[04:19] <Jucato> heh with Gentoo you don't need -dev packages :P
[04:20] <hitmanWilly> nope, they're ALL dev pkgs :)
[04:20] <evan__> followed instructioins here http://www.medibuntu.org/repository.php
[04:20] <nicio> hydrogen: how do i instaall kirocker?
[04:20] <hitmanWilly> actually, gentoo lets you compile qt4 with qt3 support, so  maybe it symlinks some libs around, not really sure
[04:21] <Jucato> !info libqt4-qt3support
[04:21] <ubotu> libqt4-qt3support: Qt 3 compatibility library for Qt 4. In component main, is optional. Version 4.2.3-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 1242 kB, installed size 3176 kB
[04:22] <hydrogen> its not the same thing
[04:22] <hitmanWilly> ok, guess that's how buntu does it :)
[04:22] <Jucato> but at the same time, iirc it's not really recommended to use that
[04:22] <hydrogen> and having qt3support in qt4 does not allow you to compile qt3 programs
[04:22] <hydrogen> there are classes that were deprecated in qt4 (but still exist) soley to help applications that are porting from qt3 to qt4
[04:22] <Jucato> hydrogen to the rescue :)
[04:22] <hydrogen> They are all in qt3support
[04:22] <hitmanWilly> well, im not really a qt expert either :)
[04:23] <AnthraX> hello
[04:23] <hydrogen> hi
[04:23] <AnthraX> i want some help regarding my RAM usage :/
[04:23] <AnthraX> Sysinfo for 'Underground': Linux 2.6.20-16-generic running KDE 3.5.7, CPU: Intel(R)Core2CPUT7200@2.00GHz at 2000 MHz (3994 bogomips), , RAM: 709/1010MB, 149 proc's, 43.9min up
[04:24] <hydrogen> what about it?
[04:24] <jmichaelx> i just moved, and am setting my network back up, however, my laptop does not want to let go of the old info (IP addy, etc). i can connect to my network if i use tools like wlassistant. can anyone tell me how to change the setings?
[04:24] <AnthraX> 709 MB RAM is being used?
[04:24] <Jucato> !ram
[04:24] <ubotu> A quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html
[04:24] <hydrogen> linux caches a whole bunch of stuff
[04:24] <hydrogen> so that its quickly accessible
[04:24] <hydrogen> this ram is still usable however if something needs it
[04:24] <hydrogen> Sysinfo for 'Yes': Linux 2.6.22-11-generic running KDE 3.5.7, CPU: Intel(R) Core 2 CPU         T7200  @ 2.00GHz at 2000 MHz (3990 bogomips), HD: 65/130GB, RAM: 1357/2026MB, 151 proc's, 4.46h up
[04:24] <hydrogen> I'm not really using over a gig of memory doing nothing
[04:24] <hydrogen> :)
[04:25] <Jucato> Linux makes smart use of that RAM you paid for to make things work faster
[04:25] <AnthraX> ;P
[04:25] <AnthraX> well yea not that really causes any trouble or something
[04:25] <AnthraX> i just wanted to know why
[04:25] <Jucato> might want to check that first link above
[04:26] <evan__> hitmanwilly: i followed the 2 commands here  http://www.medibuntu.org/repository.php
[04:26] <hydrogen> just don't worry unless you are digging into swap :)
[04:27] <AnthraX> :)
[04:27] <AnthraX> and another thing
[04:27] <AnthraX> why 156 proc's?
[04:27] <hitmanWilly> evan__, ok, run this in a konsole, sudo apt-get update
[04:28] <Jucato> Sysinfo for 'Suzaku': Linux 2.6.22-11-generic running KDE 3.5.7, CPU: AMD Sempron 2200+ at 1500 MHz (3003 bogomips), HD: 22/49GB, RAM: 469/503MB, 136 proc's, 1.50h up
[04:28] <Jucato> proc's = processes
[04:29] <AnthraX> yea
[04:29] <AnthraX> why so many proc's ?
[04:30] <AnthraX> ok
[04:30] <AnthraX> another question
[04:31] <jmichaelx> Sysinfo for 'debian': Linux 2.6.21-2-686 running KDE 3.5.7, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)4CPU1700MHz at 1694 MHz (3393 bogomips), , RAM: 400/504MB, 102 proc's, 4.51h up
[04:31] <hydrogen> thats a boring sysinfo.
[04:31] <hydrogen> err
[04:31] <Jucato> AnthraX: you can check the different processes running by pressing Ctrl+Esc
[04:31] <hydrogen> a boring computer name
[04:31] <jmichaelx> :-D
[04:32] <hitmanWilly> evan__, once you've done that, it will probably want you to upgrade your system...that should download the restricted format compatible versions of all the apps on your system
[04:32] <hydrogen> err
[04:32] <Jucato> evan__: what type of media are you trying to play btw?
[04:32] <hydrogen> suggesting that people use the mediabuntu repository is usually a bad idea
[04:32] <hydrogen> if I recall
[04:32] <hitmanWilly> hydrogen, nah, medibuntu's fine, its automatix you've gotta watch out for
[04:32] <evan__> eveything, this is a brand new install. mp3 spefically RIGHT now tho
[04:33] <hydrogen> evan__: for what application?
[04:33] <Jucato> evan__: that's too simple :) just install "libxine-extracodecs"
[04:33] <hokatichenci> Is there any way to disable/uninstall/purge my system from the evil avahi daemon
[04:33] <Jucato> fresh install, I presume amarok or kaffeine :)
[04:33] <hitmanWilly> evan__, for amarok, libxine-extracodecs should do it
[04:33] <linuxmce> hey just wondering if this has synaptic
[04:33] <hitmanWilly> evan__, same for kaff
[04:33] <hokatichenci> I googled a bit but the config change didn't disable it
[04:33] <jmichaelx> i hmaybe this will all change, but i have never had an issue with automatix, and have used it a lot since it first came out
[04:33] <evan__> hitmanwilly: http://pastebin.ca/691207
[04:33] <hitmanWilly> linuxmce, not by default, but you can install it
[04:33] <AnthraX> i first installed Ubuntu because i couldn't install Kubuntu DVD when i  booted.So i installed kde .Now when I reboot it goes all with Kubuntu but after i enter my username & password it loads as Ubuntu [Nautilus]  I runned the alt+f2 => kcontrol fixed the splash but again nothing.. any clue what else shall i do|?
[04:34] <hydrogen> AnthraX: are you in kde or gnome after the splash comes?
[04:34] <hokatichenci> AnthraX, did you select the kde session?
[04:34] <Jucato> AnthraX: when you get to the login screen, there's a menu there, check that you're logging into a KDE session
[04:34] <linuxmce> how would i go about installing it?
[04:34] <Jucato> !adept | linuxmce
[04:34] <ubotu> linuxmce: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[04:34] <AnthraX> kde
[04:35] <AnthraX> hydrogen:  kde
[04:35] <Jucato> if you don't want to use Adept, just install Synaptic from Adept or "sudo apt-get install synaptic"
[04:35] <hitmanWilly> evan__, ok, now if you run sudo apt-get upgrade, it should update the apps on your system
[04:35] <jmichaelx> i just moved, and am setting my network back up, however, my laptop does not want to let go of the old info (IP addy, etc). i can connect to my network if i use tools like wlassistant. can anyone tell me how to change the setings?
[04:35] <hokatichenci> Anybody? This avahi-daemon is driving me mad and I'd hate to have to write a script to kill it everytime I boot the system.
[04:35] <evan__> hitmanwilly: sudo apt-get upgrade......0 0 0 0
[04:37] <evan__> hitmanwilly: http://pastebin.ca/691212
[04:37] <BluesKaj> hmm AnthraX , check synaptic for kubuntu-desktop...if it isn't installed that could be the prob
[04:38] <hitmanWilly> evan__, ok, you need to enable the universe and multiverse repos
[04:38] <hitmanWilly> !multiverse
[04:38] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:39] <AnthraX> BluesKaj , it's installed..
[04:39] <hitmanWilly> evan__, check that link for info on how to enable them
[04:39] <AnthraX> hm i just found out that Kubuntu-artwork isn't installed
[04:40] <linuxmce> ok i couldnt find adept or synaptic so i tried that install synaptic and it is there nw thanks
[04:40] <Jucato> linuxmce: Adept is in K Menu -> System -> Adept Manager
[04:40] <Jucato> linuxmce: or Add/Remove Programs right in the K Menu
[04:41] <Jucato> hokatichenci: System Settings -> Advanced tab -> System Services
[04:41] <Jucato> you can configure whether avahi-daemon will start at boot or not from there
[04:41] <linuxmce> ok none of thats there but it is working now as synaptic is installed
[04:42] <hokatichenci> Jucato, it's not setup there, it still starts
[04:42] <hokatichenci> I even have it set to 0 in /etc/default/avahi-daemon
[04:42] <Jucato> hokatichenci: it's not setup there? what do you mean?
[04:42] <hokatichenci> It messes with my network really, really badly and it's driving me nuts
[04:42] <hokatichenci> Jucato, not set to start by default in all runlevels
[04:43] <Jucato> strange...
[04:43] <hokatichenci> Yeah, exactly
[04:44] <hokatichenci> I'll  have to do some deep inspection later to figure out whats going on, gotta run for now :-\
[04:51] <Alonea> how do you get knetworkmanager into the "running" state?
[04:52] <flaccid> pray
[04:53] <Alonea> i am confused. it says its not running...I used to have it on here but took it off due to problems and wanted to try it again since i now have WPA
[04:54] <Alonea> i don't see anything anywhere though about WPA or anything to connect to a network...
[04:55] <flaccid> you right click and it should show available networks to which you can click and it will ask you to enter passphrase
[04:55] <Alonea> ok, I right click and it says "KNetworkManager is not running" followed by manual configuration and help
[04:56] <rixxon> Alonea: sure you don't mean networkmanager (without the prefixing "K")?
[04:56] <Alonea> I am sure.
[04:57] <Alonea> oh!
[04:57] <rixxon> :)
[04:57] <Alonea> I see what you mean
[04:57] <Alonea> the program is K, but it says networkmanager is not running.
[04:57] <rixxon> networkmanager is the daemon (knetworkmanager is the frontend)
[04:57] <Alonea> i have had a baaad two weeks, so bear with me.
[04:57] <flaccid> well all i can say is that there are still numerous problems with networkmanager and i don't see why its needed in the first place. a frontend to /etc/network/interfaces and wpasupplicant would be fine ...
[04:58] <BluesKaj> hmm , strange thing just happened ...thunderbird doesn't launch FF when a URL is clicked on with an email message ...any suggestions ?
[04:58] <evan__> hitmanwilly: i enabled repos via link. running adept via command i see lots of fails after fetch updates and still cannot install libxine-extracodecs, fails on that too
[04:58] <flaccid> Alonea: http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=networkmanager+is+not+running+knetworkmanager&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 lots to read..
[04:59] <Alonea> figures...I mean, wireless assistant now sorta has wpa support, but 75% of the time it won't connect
[04:59] <hitmanWilly> evan__, sudo apt-get update in konsole, then pastebin the output please
[04:59] <flaccid> Alonea: yeah imo linux/ubuntu still has far to go
[05:00] <flaccid> if you uninstall networkmanager, network fails on boot. its quite ridiculous.
[05:00] <hitmanWilly> flaccid, that's just ubuntu, tho
[05:01] <evan__> hitmanwilly: http://pastebin.ca/691234
[05:01] <flaccid> hitmanWilly: yeah but networkmanager is not close to being suffice imo in general - any distro
[05:01] <hitmanWilly> evan__, looks like it updated fine, now try sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[05:02] <Alonea> I have a question, when I connect my ethernet cable, why do I have to completely restart my computer or have it already plugged in before it boots? Why doesn't it just connect when I plug it in?
[05:02] <hitmanWilly> flaccid, yeah, well, definately agree with you on that
[05:02] <flaccid> Alonea: probably because of networkmanager heh
[05:03] <flaccid> you can check the logs to see what happens
[05:03] <Alonea> its always done this, even when I didn't have it at all
[05:03] <flaccid> its called ubuntu..
[05:03] <evan__> hitmanwilly: http://pastebin.ca/691239
[05:04] <Alonea> I just now put it back on. pidgin (when it was still gaim) isn't very compatible with networkmanager (more or the less the other way around actually) so I got rid of it
[05:04] <evan__> hitmanwilly: with music loaded in amarok it just runs through playlist and says playlist finished
[05:04] <hitmanWilly> evan__, what version are you running?
[05:04] <flaccid> i've had basic network config issues with every release since and including dapper that i've tried. really shows that its far off a desktop os little lone a server os.
[05:04] <hitmanWilly> evan__, of kubuntu?
[05:04] <evan__> hitmanwilly: 6.06
[05:04] <flaccid> gaim has nothing to do with network
[05:04] <flaccid> !find libmad0
[05:04] <ubotu> Found: libmad0, libmad0-dev
[05:04] <hitmanWilly> evan__, ok, there may be an issue there
[05:04] <flaccid> !info libmad0
[05:04] <ubotu> libmad0: MPEG audio decoder library. In component main, is optional. Version 0.15.1b-2.1 (feisty), package size 75 kB, installed size 160 kB
[05:05] <nicio> beryl is in french how do i fix it to be in english?
[05:05] <Alonea> umm, the article I read said something about network manager would tell it that I was not connected to the internet and as soon as I got rid of it, problem fixed.
[05:05] <flaccid> !info libxine-extracodecs
[05:05] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, transitional package. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.4-2ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 38 kB, installed size 68 kB
[05:05] <flaccid> you don't need medibuntu repos, just use multiverse...
[05:05] <evan__> hitmanwilly: so upgrade to fiesty
[05:05] <flaccid> Alonea: right, that makes it even worse o)
[05:06] <Alonea> flaccid: yup...its a lying sob
[05:06] <hitmanWilly> evan__, actually, you may want to try vlc, that should work on dapper
[05:06] <flaccid> Alonea: it shouldn't even work like that.
[05:06] <evan__> hitmanwilly: well if its that old i might as well upgrade to fiesty
[05:07] <hitmanWilly> evan__, you said this was a fresh install, right?
[05:07] <evan__> hitmanwilly: vlc has shitton dependencies
[05:07] <jmichaelx> is there a config file where network info is stored? if so, could someone give me the path?
[05:07] <evan__> yup, from a disk i got from the ubuntu people
[05:07] <flaccid> jmichaelx: /etc/network/interfaces
[05:07] <Alonea> flaccid: dunno. more than one place said it was a common problem in network manager. dunno if the later versions of pidgin have managed to get around that or no
[05:08] <hitmanWilly> evan__, ok, id say just install feisty then, clean
[05:08] <jmichaelx> flaccid: ty
[05:08] <hitmanWilly> evan__, its easier than dealing with backports, in my opinion
[05:08] <evan__> hitmanwilly: this requires makin a cd yes
[05:08] <hitmanWilly> evan__, yup
[05:08] <evan__> hitmanwilly: not possiable via konsole, i did that in gnome once
[05:09] <hitmanWilly> evan__, you could use k3b
[05:09] <evan__> hitmanwilly: i mean upgrade to fiesty via konsole
[05:09] <hitmanWilly> evan__, a massive waste of time, in your case, since you need to go to edgy first
[05:10] <hitmanWilly> evan__, i'd say just do a fresh install, less chance of breakage
[05:10] <evan__> hitmanwilly: will a fresh install w/ fiesty cd allow me to pick WM?
[05:10] <hitmanWilly> evan__, which one do you want?
[05:10] <evan__> KDE
[05:10] <flaccid> Alonea: they should never talk basically - its bad practice
[05:11] <hitmanWilly> evan__, go to kubuntu.org, that installs kde
[05:11] <flaccid> Alonea: unless you make gaim depend on networkmanager and that would be even stupider
[05:11] <hitmanWilly> evan__, kubuntu, ubuntu, xubuntu are all the same, just use different WM's by default
[05:12] <Alonea> flaccid: well, its moot when I kill networkmanager. ^__^
[05:12] <Jucato> s/different WM's/different DE's, apps, configurations, etc/
[05:12] <hitmanWilly> evan__, ubuntu=gnome, kubuntu=kde, xubuntu=xfce
[05:12] <Alonea> or use hard line instead of wifi.
[05:12] <evan__> hitmanwilly: yea, i understand that part
[05:12] <hitmanWilly> evan__, but you can change after install if you want as well
[05:13] <evan__> hitmanwilly: its all the same base, just different looks
[05:13] <Alonea> though I use wifi at school and pidgin didn't have any problems when network-manager was on.
[05:13] <hitmanWilly> evan__, different apps on default install
[05:13] <evan__> hitmanwilly: this makes sense because dapper is actually pretty old
[05:14] <Alonea> I think it was just that the old version of gaim was set up really weird. and it was definitely a really old version of gaim.
[05:14] <hitmanWilly> evan__, it's more geared towards business apps and servers, not personal desktops
[05:14] <evan__> hitmanwilly: dapper?
[05:15] <hitmanWilly> evan__, yes, its a long term support version
[05:15] <hitmanWilly> !lts | evan__
[05:15] <ubotu> evan__: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[05:15] <hitmanWilly> evan__, but for standard desktop/laptop stuff, i reccomend the newer versions
[05:16] <evan__> hitmanwilly: did not know that, orig got ubuntu cd from mag and was first *nix to work on my lappy straight away. tried mandriva, redhat
[05:17] <hitmanWilly> evan__, heh, that's because it installs drivers for just about everything...
[05:17] <evan__> hitmanwilly: i dunno, i might stay with GNOME, was gogin to kde cause i thought my skills where uprading but apparently not
[05:17] <hitmanWilly> evan__, and its installer is better at figuring out hw than other distros
[05:18] <nicio> hitmanWilly: how do i put google to be my default page when firefow launch?
[05:18] <hitmanWilly> evan__, you can have both on the same machine
[05:18] <evan__> yea, i did that before i had to da fresh install
[05:19] <evan__> ninco: edit>pref>select home page
[05:19] <hitmanWilly> nicio, edit -> preferences -> main
[05:20] <Rictoo> if I do apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop, and then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop to reinstall kde, that won't like remember my home folder, right?
[05:20] <Rictoo> remove*
[05:21] <hitmanWilly> Rictoo, actually, that by itself won't do anything
[05:21] <alirio> hola
[05:21] <alirio> hello
[05:21] <Rictoo> hitmanWilly: wut
[05:21] <hitmanWilly> Rictoo, what are you trying to do?
[05:21] <Rictoo> reinstall kde
[05:22] <evan__> hitmanwilly: after i get fiesty up and runnin i still need to follow the directions on medibuntu correct
[05:22] <Rictoo> and everything with it, while I'm at it :p
[05:22] <nicio> hitmanWilly: and for konqueror?
[05:22] <hitmanWilly> evan__, actually, not for mp3
[05:23] <evan__> nicio: settings>config konk
[05:23] <hitmanWilly> evan__, just install libxine-extracodecs, universe and multiverse are enabled by default on feisty
[05:23] <hitmanWilly> Rictoo, do you just want to reset the defaults?
[05:23] <evan__> hitmanwilly: and that will do codecs for DVD etc?
[05:23] <Rictoo> naa, there's some stuff seriously screwed
[05:24] <Rictoo> and I think it's better if I just start all over :p
[05:24] <hitmanWilly> evan__, no, dvd is a little more complex :)\
[05:24] <evan__> hitmanwilly: i will cross that bridge when i come to it
[05:24] <evan__> hitmanwilly: what about mpg, avi...
[05:24] <intelikey> hmmm are some of the freenode servers having problems ?
[05:24] <hitmanWilly> Rictoo, before you do that, go into a konsole and try this rm -rf ~/.kde
[05:25] <hitmanWilly> Rictoo, then restart kde
[05:25] <intelikey> couldn't connect through the server i normally use
[05:25] <Rictoo> ok
[05:25] <Rictoo> bbl then
[05:25] <flaccid> how do you purge a package with dpkg using apt-get remove --purge is not working on a package
[05:25] <hitmanWilly> evan__, most of those are supported natively
[05:25] <nicio> hitmanWilly: where exactly?
[05:25] <Jucato> flaccid: dpkg -P I think
[05:25] <nicio> stp
[05:25] <evan__> hitmanwilly: coo,....u a multitaskin mofo itellyawhat
[05:25] <hitmanWilly> evan__, for ones that aren't, libxine-extracodecs takes care of it
[05:25] <intelikey> flaccid -P --force-all packagename
[05:25] <hitmanWilly> evan__, lots of practice :)
[05:26] <Jucato> oh intelikey's here... no need for me to be here then :)
[05:26] <flaccid> sweet that worked nice
[05:26] <evan__> hitmanwilly: how many packets does it take to send a 6pack
[05:26] <intelikey> Jucato um   better hang around   i may not be here long.
[05:26] <hydrogen> boip?
[05:26] <Rictoo> hitmanWilly: still screwed
[05:26] <hitmanWilly> evan__, too many for my connection :)
[05:26] <flaccid> im also here Jucato :p
[05:26] <evan__> lol
[05:27] <Jucato> intelikey: neither will I. 30 minutes to lunch :)
[05:27] <Rictoo> i'll just reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[05:27] <Rictoo> its no biggie
[05:27] <Rictoo> but how do I do it?
[05:27] <evan__> rictoo: make a kubuntu cd
[05:27] <Jucato> flaccid: yeah, that's why I've been busy studying for the past hour :p
[05:27] <Jucato> the room is in good hands
[05:27] <flaccid> hahaha
[05:27] <Rictoo> evan__: What?
[05:27] <Rictoo> I can't just use apt-get remove?
[05:27] <hitmanWilly> Rictoo, you'll need to apt-get autoremove after the uninstalling kubuntu-desktop
[05:27] <flaccid> Rictoo: sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[05:27] <hydrogen> if he's flaccid the room definatly isn't in good /hands/
[05:27] <Jucato> hahahah!!!
[05:28] <hitmanWilly> flaccid, i doubt that would work, since desktop's just a meta, and all the deps will stay installed
[05:28] <Jucato> what does Rictoo need to do?
[05:28] <hitmanWilly> Jucato, he wants to reinstall kde
[05:29] <Jucato> oh hm...
[05:29] <flaccid> use aptitude then
[05:29] <Rictoo> I don't care if any of my configuration files are screwed up
[05:29] <Rictoo> as long as I'll still have all my files
[05:29] <Rictoo> I will, right?
[05:29] <intelikey>  sudo apt-get install --reinstall kde-core
[05:29] <jhutchins> hitmanWilly: kubuntu-desktop, in'it?
[05:29] <hitmanWilly> jhutchins, yes, but again that's just a meta
[05:29] <flaccid> that won't do all of kde
[05:30] <Rictoo> I'm still going to have all my home files after this right? (just to be sure)\
[05:30] <Jucato> well reisntalling kubuntu-desktop will reinstall anything that was removed too
[05:30] <hitmanWilly> he'll have to throw in an autoremove as well
[05:30] <jhutchins> flaccid: well, technically that would require installing using KDE's package management and repos.
[05:30] <hitmanWilly> for a complete reinstall
[05:30] <Jucato> kde's package management? O.o
[05:30] <jhutchins> Anybody around here ever mention making BACKUPS?
[05:30] <flaccid> jhutchins: doesn't require that at all. dpkg is suffice
[05:30] <Rictoo> 033005 <    Rictoo> I'm still going to have all my home files after this right? (just to be sure)
[05:31] <hitmanWilly> Rictoo, yes, just not any kde config files
[05:31] <evan__> back them up
[05:31] <evan__> always no matter what
[05:31] <flaccid> sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude remove --purge kubuntu-desktop && sidp aptitude install kubuntu-desktop   <-- would that work?
[05:31] <intelikey> Rictoo package management will not affect ~/
[05:31] <Rictoo> evan__: I'm not going to, so let's hope it'll be fine :
[05:31] <Rictoo> :p
[05:31] <flaccid> sidp = sudo
[05:31] <Rictoo> doing autoremove now
[05:31] <evan__> rictoo: braver than me
[05:32] <evan__> hell i have backups of backups
[05:32] <Rictoo> linux-headers-2.6.20-15-generic <-- was in the autoremove list
[05:32] <Rictoo> rofl
[05:32] <Rictoo> I hope linux will still boot up >>
[05:32] <hitmanWilly> Rictoo, reinstall kubuntu-desktop before you reboot
[05:33] <hitmanWilly> Rictoo, that's just the headers, not the kernel itself
[05:33] <holycow> *hmmm*
[05:33] <Rictoo> I have IceWM as a backup :p
[05:33] <evan__> would rictoo file sitch be differnet if /home had its own partition
[05:33] <hitmanWilly> evan__, nope
[05:33] <intelikey> and to answer your Q Rictoo kernel headers have nothing to do with how it boots
[05:33] <holycow> how could one grab a list of all gnome-desktop dependencies and pipe them to apt-get remove ?
[05:33] <intelikey> holycow apt-cache can do that.
[05:34] <hitmanWilly> Rictoo, you won't be able to compile kernel modules until you reinstall...lol
[05:34] <Rictoo> brb
[05:34] <hitmanWilly> holycow, you want to remove gnome altogether?
[05:34] <holycow> hitmanWilly: yup
[05:34] <intelikey> hitmanWilly ...reinstall the kernel headers...  ^
[05:34] <evan__> would those here say that 450-500 kb/s is good?
[05:35] <hitmanWilly> holycow, apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop, then apt-get autoremove
[05:35] <holycow> intelikey: i presume i would need to drop that into a variable or feed apt-get remove a loist
[05:35] <holycow> *hmm*
[05:35] <intelikey> holycow oh there is a lib package good for that.  ask in  #debian
[05:35] <holycow> hitmanWilly: oh thats much easier
[05:35] <hydrogen> evan__: that depends wholy on the from and to
[05:35] <hydrogen> if its from hda to hdb, I'd say no
[05:35] <hydrogen> if its from 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.1.2 I'd say no
[05:35] <hitmanWilly> holycow, that removes the gnome desktop and all it's deps
[05:35] <evan__> ok, just got my high speed so i dnt know what fast is, if that makes sense
[05:35] <holycow> hitmanWilly: thats awesome, thank you
[05:36] <Jucato> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[05:36] <hydrogen> if its from <randomipincongo> to your house, I'd say yes
[05:36] <hitmanWilly> evan__, i've got a 400k connection here, and that's slow for me
[05:36] <evan__> i guess its all relative then huh
[05:36] <hitmanWilly> yeah, lol\
[05:38] <intelikey> faster than using a slowdem
[05:38] <evan__> atleast you guys dont have a tin can w/ a string coming out the end
[05:38] <holycow> wow thats novel
[05:38] <hydrogen> faster than hiring someone to dictate bites into a telephone
[05:38] <holycow> i have smoke signals
[05:38] <hydrogen> bet you havn't heard that one before!
[05:39] <evan__> lol...smoke signals
[05:39] <nicio> hitmanWilly: im on firefox on a website.to view the streaming video they say i need plugings to view the video.it look like it wants to install real media player plugins allso the player :( it have any other player that has the plugins?
[05:39] <nicio> hy99
[05:39] <hydrogen> thats called packet loss holycow :)(
[05:39] <hitmanWilly> no, connection crash!! lol
[05:39] <nicio> ^^
[05:39] <holycow> no
[05:39] <holycow> thats called DINNER
[05:39] <holycow> -_-
[05:39] <nicio> hitmanWilly: im on firefox on a website.to view the streaming video they say i need plugings to view the video.it look like it wants to install real media player plugins allso the player :( it have any other player that has the plugins? hydrogen
[05:40] <evan__> time to burn fiesty.iso
[05:40] <intelikey> nicio you are also repeating
[05:40] <intelikey> nicio you are also repeating
[05:40] <hitmanWilly> nicio, hmm, i think real player is only real player, if that makes any sense
[05:40] <hitmanWilly> nicio, vlc MIGHT...
[05:41] <hitmanWilly> nicio, but i doubt it
[05:41] <holycow> *mmmm* teriyaki packets
[05:41] <nicio> hitmanWilly: the last time i install it real player never work but the flash was playing
[05:41] <holycow> with stuffing
[05:41] <hitmanWilly> nicio, i think realplayer is in the repos...
[05:41] <intelikey> !find realplay
[05:41] <hitmanWilly> nicio, not sure though
[05:41] <ubotu> File realplay found in apparmor-profiles, gworkspace-apps-wrappers
[05:42] <intelikey> guess not
[05:42] <hitmanWilly> nicio, you might try going to the realplayer site, and getting the linux version, it might be trying to give you the windows one
[05:43] <hydrogen> !info realplayer
[05:43] <ubotu> Package realplayer does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[05:43] <Jucato> technically, realplayer should be in the (canonical) commercial repos
[05:43] <intelikey> hydrogen i just had the bot search for it and it found it not.
[05:43] <hydrogen> helix can probably play them as well
[05:43] <Jucato> along with opera
[05:43] <Rictoo> hitmanWilly: KDE is still there
[05:43] <Rictoo> it didn't do anything
[05:43] <hydrogen> helix can play .rm files
[05:44] <hitmanWilly> Rictoo, did you reinstall kubuntu-desktop?
[05:44] <Rictoo> no
[05:44] <Rictoo> but
[05:44] <Rictoo> KDE was still there >>
[05:44] <Jucato> my Kaffeine can play .rm and .rmvb files...
[05:44] <Rictoo> and it works
[05:44] <hitmanWilly> Rictoo, it works now?
[05:44] <Rictoo> no
[05:44] <Rictoo> I'm saying uninstalling and autoremove'ing did nothing (to kubuntu-desktop)
[05:45] <hitmanWilly> Rictoo, ok, something else you installed may be holding kde as a dependency
[05:45] <Rictoo> aw crap
[05:45] <hitmanWilly> Rictoo, how exactly is kde not working, anyway?
[05:46] <intelikey> i'm telling you pull something that all of kde depends on    find a key lib and rm it
[05:46] <intelikey> same for gnome  or any other bundle
[05:46] <Rictoo> hitmanWilly: It
[05:46] <Rictoo> It's honestly a long story
[05:46] <Rictoo> but I'd like to reinstall it anyway
[05:46] <Rictoo> let's just forget about why :p
[05:47] <hitmanWilly> Rictoo, ok, try reinstalling kubuntu-desktop and see if that helps fix the problem
[05:47] <Rictoo> ok
[05:47] <hitmanWilly> or not...
[05:48] <intelikey> he'll be back saying it didn't....
[05:48] <hitmanWilly> probably
[05:49] <hitmanWilly> if he'd tell me the problem, i might have a better idea how to fix it...
[05:49] <intelikey> yeah.   but if he would listen to what i said, he could do what he's asking to do
[05:49] <hitmanWilly> or at least localize it
[05:50] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, well, there's always purging kwin...
[05:50] <nicio> hydrogen: helix didnt work
[05:51] <intelikey> hitmanWilly but that may not fix his problem that alone wont get all of kde
[05:51] <hitmanWilly> hmm, both qt's then, maybe?
[05:51] <hitmanWilly> as in 3 & 4
[05:51] <hitmanWilly> im pretty sure kde depends on that :)
[05:51] <intelikey> kdelibs* should
[05:52] <hitmanWilly> oh, duh...
[05:53] <intelikey> sudo apt-get remove --purge -y kdelibs*
[05:53] <intelikey> or maybe not -y   ...  :)
[05:53] <hitmanWilly> yeah, that'd do it
[05:54] <hitmanWilly> heh, forgot how much nudity there was in ghost in the shell, as emphasized by the censor bars in the tv version...
[05:54] <hitmanWilly> anyway, back on topic
[05:58] <Daisuke_Laptop> is everyone in every channel i'm in on every network watching GITS?
[05:58] <Daisuke_Laptop> am i the only one missing it?
[05:58] <intelikey> is there a way to hide a process from the process table ?
[05:59] <intelikey> what's gits ?
[05:59] <Daisuke_Laptop> ghost int he shell
[05:59] <Daisuke_Laptop> in the*
[05:59] <intelikey> nicio bash filename.bin
[05:59] <hitmanWilly> Daisuke_Laptop, well, when you hang out in geek oriented chat rooms :)
[05:59] <Daisuke_Laptop> true, true
[05:59] <nicio> intelikey: dont understand
[06:00] <hitmanWilly> :P
[06:00] <Daisuke_Laptop> hitmanWilly: i think those 5 geek points are made up by his preference of cli over gui
[06:01] <intelikey> nicio konsole command in the ~/Desktop dirrectory
[06:01] <intelikey> nicio bash filename.bin
[06:01] <hitmanWilly> Daisuke_Laptop, i never said he didn't have plenty to spare
[06:01] <nicio> intelikey: what is bash?
[06:01] <intelikey> if /me was ops nicio just got banned
[06:02] <intelikey> :)
[06:02] <intelikey> ah it's a shell
[06:02] <hitmanWilly> i was wondering if your head was going to explode on that one :P
[06:02] <hitmanWilly> nicio, think linux's version of DOS
[06:02] <intelikey> didn't explode   but it did blow chuncks
[06:03] <dudeicles> good evening folks
[06:03] <dudeicles> howdy intelikey. how are you?
[06:03] <intelikey> dudeicles well   and you?
[06:03] <dudeicles> can't complain
[06:03] <hitmanWilly> nicio, although, its about 10x more powerful
[06:03] <nicio> hitmanWilly:  intelikey bash filename doesnt install the bin file?cant u tell me what to rite in the dos window please?
[06:03] <dudeicles> kubuntu is still working and haven't found anything that I can only do with Windows
[06:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> only 10x?
[06:04] <dudeicles> though I really wish Adobe AI and PS worked
[06:04] <hydrogen> actually
[06:04] <intelikey> dudeicles if you have nothing to complain about,  do you want to barrow some trubble ???  :)
[06:04] <hydrogen> dos is fairly powerful
[06:04] <hitmanWilly> Daisuke_Laptop, sorry, that was 2^10x :P
[06:04] <dudeicles> intelikey: What type of trubble?
[06:04] <intelikey> hydrogen that  DoS  not DOS  :)
[06:04] <hydrogen> no
[06:04] <hydrogen> both
[06:04] <hydrogen> :)
[06:05] <purpleposeidon> DOS is pretty powerful, you can use it to start linux
[06:05] <hitmanWilly> nicio, ok, open up a konsole
[06:05] <nicio> hitmanWilly: done
[06:05] <hitmanWilly> nicio, cd Desktop
[06:05] <nicio> hitmanWilly: do i rite cd desktop?
[06:06] <hitmanWilly> yes, in konsole
[06:06] <hydrogen> yes
[06:06] <intelikey> oh children gone astray, finances to short to cover expenses,  health short of comfort, friend dying with cancer,   not to mention the smaller day to day things...   pick one.
[06:06] <intelikey> dudeicles ^
[06:06] <hydrogen> i'll pick the third
[06:06] <nicio> hitmanWilly:  and?
[06:06] <hitmanWilly> nicio, ls
[06:07] <dudeicles> intelikey: i'll take smaller day to day things for 100 Alex
[06:07] <intelikey> that was FOUR
[06:07] <hitmanWilly> nicio, do you see the .bin file listed?
[06:07] <hydrogen> hmm
[06:07] <intelikey> or heheh five sorry
[06:07] <hydrogen> I /think/ you should be able to just click on the .bin file on the desktop
[06:07] <nicio>  hydrogen after  ls press enter?
[06:07] <hydrogen> and it will run automagically
[06:08] <hydrogen> nicio: yes
[06:08] <hitmanWilly> hydrogen, not if it's not tagged exec
[06:08] <hydrogen> ls is short for 'list', its analogous to dir in dos
[06:08] <nicio> i like that word automagically :) q_p
[06:08] <hydrogen> hitmanWilly: most bin files are though :)
[06:09] <hitmanWilly> hydrogen, plus, its a text mode installer anyway
[06:09] <hydrogen> hitmanWilly: I think it'll open a konsole to install it in
[06:09] <hydrogen> and run it there
[06:09] <nicio> hitmanWilly: -su: cd: Desktop: No such file or directory
[06:09] <hitmanWilly> nicio, ok, try double clicking the file on the desktop, see if that runs it
[06:10] <intelikey> dudeicles i'll tell one more thing then get back on topic, (true story) had a friend ask me one day "how are you" to which i replied, "i could complain, but it doesn't seem to do any good".   he was silent for several moments, then asked  "have you tried jumping up and down while you complain?"    :)))
[06:10] <nicio> hitmanWilly: i need wine for that
[06:11] <intelikey> nicio ?
[06:11] <intelikey> i don't think so.
[06:11] <nicio> hitmanWilly: they explain here but it dont work seems like this way is not for kubuntu http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/redhat-fedora-linux-help/42104-how-install-realplayer-bin.html
[06:11] <hydrogen> no.
[06:12] <intelikey> nicio you are not in the users home dir.  """<nicio> hitmanWilly: -su: cd: Desktop: No such file or directory"""
[06:12] <Murchadh`> Probably work better if you had some wine whilst jumping up and down and complaining!
[06:12] <hitmanWilly> nicio, not for the linux version, you don't
[06:12] <hydrogen> open a konsole, cd Desktop; chmod +x RealPlayer<tab>; sudo ./RealPlayer<Tab>
[06:12] <hydrogen> don't follow the su part
[06:12] <hitmanWilly> hydrogen, he can't cd to Desktop for some reason
[06:13] <dudeicles> intelikey: At least your friend made you laugh instead of make you feel worse. :)
[06:13] <hydrogen> hitmanWilly: its because he was trying to do it in roots environment
[06:13] <hydrogen> I think
[06:13] <hitmanWilly> hydrogen, oh, well that would do it
[06:13] <intelikey> hitmanWilly he's not in the users $HOME   "-su" error.
[06:13] <hydrogen> the su should give it away :)
[06:13] <hitmanWilly> ah, must have missed that part
[06:14] <nicio> hydrogen: intelikey dont understand the language your speekin to me nicio confuse
[06:14] <nicio> :/
[06:14] <intelikey> nobody pays any attention to me...   even when i'm right, nobody listens...
[06:14] <hydrogen> you'd probably be better off enabling the canonical repository
[06:14] <hydrogen> rather than installing it manualy
[06:14] <hydrogen> !canonical
[06:15] <ubotu> Canonical Ltd. is committed to the development, distribution and promotion of open source software products, and to providing tools and support to the open source community. It is the driving force behind the Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and Edubuntu Operating Systems. Canonical's website is at http://www.canonical.com/
[06:15] <hitmanWilly> hydrogen, ok, i'll let you walk him through that :)
[06:15] <hydrogen>  deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu feisty-commercial main
[06:15] <intelikey> nicio yidish tov ?
[06:15] <nicio> ???
[06:15] <intelikey> guess not..
[06:16] <hydrogen> nicio: in console, echo 'deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu feisty-commercial main' | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:16] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, no, i don't think he speaks yiddish...
[06:16] <intelikey> obviously not.
[06:16] <nicio> hydrogen:  O_O
[06:16] <hydrogen> then update in adept and search for realplayer
[06:16] <hydrogen> it should be there
[06:17] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, and neither do I, btw, just recoignize it when I see it...
[06:17] <intelikey> k
[06:17] <hydrogen> the whole 'yidish' in the line probably helps one recognize it
[06:17] <hitmanWilly> maybe...:P
[06:18] <Exospaciac> I know this probably isn't the right place to ask, but I am having some problems with Firefox. The whole program is laggy to the point where it is completely unusable.
[06:18] <Exospaciac> For a while it was okay, but now I cannot even use it.
[06:18] <hitmanWilly> memory leak...
[06:18] <hokatichenci> So, I was in here earlier reguarding avahi-autoipd, which I am trying to disable from my system, and nothing so far seems to work, any suggestions?
[06:19] <hitmanWilly> hokatichenci, you could try update-rc.d
[06:19] <hitmanWilly> i think that's the app on buntu
[06:20] <intelikey> tis
[06:20] <hokatichenci> hitmanWilly, It's not listed in the rc levels as far as I can tell
[06:20] <hitmanWilly> hmmm, check rc.local
[06:21] <intelikey> hokatichenci you can move remove rename chmod or edit the script in /etc/init.d   assuming it's upstart that's starting it.
[06:22] <hokatichenci> hitmanWilly, it isn't listed anywhere - despite being told to not start in /etc/default/avahi-daemon and not being listed, something is started this
[06:22] <hokatichenci> intelikey, well that doesn't really solve the fact that something is broken somewher
[06:22] <nicio> intelikey: join me plese in #xp_killer ch to explain wa all i have to type in dos to install a bin file please
[06:23] <hitmanWilly> hmmm, is kde starting it up for some reason?
[06:23] <hokatichenci> Thats my concern
[06:23] <hokatichenci> is that its hard wired somewhere, and it is messing up my networking
[06:23] <intelikey> nicio copy & paste this into a konsole#                                                                                            sudo bash ~/Desktop/*.bin
[06:23] <hokatichenci> and being incredibly annoying
[06:24] <intelikey> that's all you need nicio
[06:24] <hitmanWilly> does upstart read the inittab file? or is it skipped entirely?
[06:25] <intelikey> hokatichenci hardwaire in the networking script maybe...
[06:25] <nicio> intelikey: cannot execute binary file
[06:25] <nicio> error
[06:25] <intelikey> hitmanWilly errr is there one on a clean install that has upstart ?
[06:25] <nicio> intelikey: but it did see the file
[06:25] <intelikey> nicio oh binary file.   that's not the linux version you have.
[06:26] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, not sure, but it might read one if it is present
[06:26] <nicio> intelikey: i install it once but i lost and forgot how
[06:26] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, yeah it is, he just needs to chmod it
[06:26] <intelikey> hitmanWilly idk.  haven't seen upstart yet myself
[06:26] <nicio> intelikey: no not linux version
[06:26] <intelikey> hitmanWilly   ^
[06:27] <hitmanWilly> nicio, you need the linux version
[06:27] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, and my bad...
[06:27] <nicio> sorry it's a linux version
[06:27] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, ah hah!
[06:27] <intelikey> hitmanWilly well somebodies bad....
[06:27] <hitmanWilly> lol
[06:27] <hokatichenci> and it seems that the reboot button is totally busted, awesome.
[06:28] <intelikey> nicio shares his confusion with #kubuntu     seems to be the name of this song
[06:28] <nicio> hitmanWilly: last time befor i reinstall linux i install the same bin file
[06:28] <hitmanWilly> nicio, ok, open up a fresh konsole
[06:28] <hitmanWilly> nicio, and type in the following:
[06:28] <nicio> root?
[06:28] <hitmanWilly> nicio, no
[06:28] <hitmanWilly> nicio, regular konsole
[06:28] <nicio> k
[06:29] <hitmanWilly> nicio, ok,
[06:30] <intelikey> chmod 755 ~/Desktop/*.bin
[06:30] <hokatichenci> ffs, avahi-autoipd refuses to die
[06:30] <intelikey> waiting for that ?
[06:30] <hitmanWilly> nicio: chmod +x ~/Desktop/*.bin && sudo ~/Desktop/*.bin
[06:30] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, that :)
[06:31] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, trying to put it into one cut/paste cmd
[06:31] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, ok, what did I screw up...
[06:32] <intelikey> nothing.   jsut waiting...
[06:33] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, assuming that was the only .bin file on his desktop, it should work...
[06:34] <intelikey> most file.bin are scripts wrapped around an archive file
[06:34] <hokatichenci> Things that will not disable avahi-autoipd: disabling /etc/default/avahi-daemon, chmod -x /etc/init.d/avahi-daemon, removing avahi-daemon from the runlevels
[06:35] <hokatichenci> This program is more invasive than the realnetworks stuff
[06:35] <DaSkreech> can someone dig the name inter.viewcentral.com and tell me who owns it?
[06:35] <intelikey> hokatichenci    sudo chmod 000000 /etc/init.d/avahi-daemon*   and restart
[06:36] <hokatichenci> intelikey, I am very, very sure that won't work
[06:36] <hokatichenci> Something is manually calling this stuff
[06:36] <nicio> hitmanWilly: i didnt like that way it install but it's install but not working for firefox.how do i make firefox scan for plugins?
[06:37] <intelikey> sudo apt-get remove avahi*
[06:37] <hitmanWilly> DaSkreech, hmm, doesn't seem to exist in the whois database...
[06:37] <intelikey> pull rank on it.
[06:37] <DaSkreech> hitmanWilly: seriously?
[06:37] <hokatichenci> intelikey, that attempts to remove a bunch of kde things
[06:37] <hitmanWilly> DaSkreech, try it
[06:37] <hokatichenci> intelikey, it's invasive, I don't want it, I'm ashamed that it's so tied in.
[06:38] <intelikey> hokatichenci then it may be kde that starts it...
[06:38] <DaSkreech> hitmanWilly: can't I'm on windows
[06:38] <intelikey> hokatichenci remove it and leave the package.
[06:38] <hokatichenci> intelikey, thats the point
[06:38] <conrad_> hey, whats up with firefox crashing, resulting in a loss of ability to view websites through lynx, firefox, or konquerer, but remaining online? Like, being able to be on IRC, aim, ping stuff, and all? Yet not able to view websites at other ports?
[06:38] <hitmanWilly> DaSkreech, hold on, maybe I can traceroute it
[06:39] <conrad_> i killed dhcpcd-bin and reconnected, but that didn't help.
[06:40] <hokatichenci> If it wasn't for the fact that everything else was already working that I needed to be working I would have installed another distro
[06:41] <intelikey> hokatichenci don't run this unless you are serious about disabling it...      dpkg -L avahi* | while read Q ;do sudo mv "$Q" /root ;echo "$Q" >> /root/list.avahi-files ;done
[06:41] <DaSkreech> hitmanWilly: kk
[06:41] <hitmanWilly> DaSkreech, hmm, don't seem to be having any luck...
[06:41] <intelikey> hokatichenci and you may need the exact package name   and possably a | cut
[06:42] <hokatichenci> intelikey, I fixed it by doing chmod -rwx /usr/sbin/avahi*
[06:42] <nicio> hydrogen: how to check my emails on kotepe?
[06:42] <hokatichenci> but that doesn't really solve the problem
[06:42] <hitmanWilly> nicio, ok, you may need to download a seperate plugin for firefox
[06:42] <hokatichenci> that the software is totally busted and I couldn't disable it in a reasonable manner
[06:42] <nicio> mmm
[06:42] <intelikey> no. no | cut needed   but you may need the package name.
[06:42] <hitmanWilly> hokatichenci, if you use buntu, get used to that kind of thing
[06:43] <intelikey> and if you want to fix it.  install something that doesn't expect you to switch to a new version every few months
[06:43] <DaSkreech> What's the issue hokatichenci ?
[06:44] <hokatichenci> DaSkreech, disabling avahi-autoipd is more or less impossible
[06:44] <DaSkreech> !info avahi-autoipd
[06:44] <ubotu> avahi-autoipd: Avahi IPv4LL network address configuration daemon. In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.17-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 41 kB, installed size 176 kB
[06:45] <intelikey> impossable ?   i gave at least two ways to disable it,  no three.
[06:45] <DaSkreech> hokatichenci: is it in ubuntu-base?
[06:46] <conrad_> i miss windows ability to not require reboots to get your inhternet back up... ugh
[06:46] <DaSkreech> conrad_: what?
[06:46] <hokatichenci> DaSkreech, its tightly integrated to KDE, you can't uninstall it
[06:46] <conrad_> yeah, seriously.
[06:47] <DaSkreech> hitmanWilly: can you dig accpaconline.com and tell me who owns it?
[06:47] <nicio> conrad_: u dont need to reboot just do like me unplug plug back :p
[06:47] <intelikey> one) remove the package.  two) move the executable out of path.  three) make it not executable and leave it in path.
[06:47] <conrad_> im trying to switch fully to linux, but then it does these things like firefox crashes, leaving me with no ability to visit webpages
[06:47] <conrad_> regardless of what browser i use.
[06:47] <conrad_> yet im still able to use irc, or any other internet service
[06:47] <DaSkreech> conrad_: reboot your networking maybe?
[06:48] <conrad_> i assume that's done through 'killall dhcpcd-bin'
[06:48] <conrad_> right?
[06:48] <hydrogen> don't use firefox at all?
[06:48] <DaSkreech> conrad_: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[06:48] <intelikey> ifupdown blah
[06:49] <intelikey> ifup/down blah
[06:49] <hitmanWilly> DaSkreech, here's the whois info: http://rafb.net/p/lau2XU37.html
[06:50] <intelikey> !info dig
[06:50] <ubotu> Package dig does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:50] <intelikey> doesn't exist on this box either
[06:50] <hitmanWilly> DaSkreech, not sure what's in there, just piped it to wgetpaste
[06:51] <intelikey> !find dig
[06:51] <ubotu> Found: digikam, digikamimageplugins, libdigest-hmac-perl, libdigest-sha1-perl, perl (and 24 others)
[06:51] <DaSkreech> hitmanWilly: it's legit it seems
[06:52] <hokatichenci> DaSkreech, anyideas on the avahi-autoipd though?
[06:52] <conrad_> nope. it messes with eth0, when wlan0 is what i need.
[06:52] <DaSkreech> Bloody company has like 14 addresses as main contact in the US alone
[06:52] <hokatichenci> It seems to be poor kubuntu design to integrate it so tightly to me
[06:52] <DaSkreech> hokatichenci: do you have intelikey  blocked or something?
[06:52] <hokatichenci> My gentoo system which also runs KDE doesn't even have the lib's installed as far as I can tell
[06:52] <hokatichenci> DaSkreech, I have a solution, but its ugly
[06:53] <conrad_> im using dhcpcd, not dhclient3... why is dhclient3 running?
[06:53] <hitmanWilly> DaSkreech, why do you need this anyway?
[06:53] <nicio> hitmanWilly: how do i get to Mozilla plugins directory
[06:53] <hokatichenci> the point is that its pretty messed up to integrate like that
[06:53] <DaSkreech> hitmanWilly: someone is paying for online courses for accpac and wants to find out if the site is legit
[06:54] <hitmanWilly> nicio, the path is ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[06:54] <DaSkreech> hokatichenci: Fine explain why in #kubuntu-devel and file a bug
[06:54] <DaSkreech> !bugs | hokatichenci
[06:54] <conrad_> what's dhcpbd?
[06:54] <ubotu> hokatichenci: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[06:55] <hitmanWilly> DaSkreech, ah, ok, checking for phishers, got it
[06:55] <DaSkreech> hitmanWilly: yup the site looks pretty good but it's still a bit strange
[06:55] <julius> Hey all, for some reason the bars arent drawn on windows anymore like a % bar for downloading files.
[06:56] <hitmanWilly> DaSkreech, well, it has a real address with it...
[06:56] <DaSkreech> hitmanWilly: I know I saw
[06:56] <hitmanWilly> DaSkreech, though it is an office building
[06:57] <hitmanWilly> DaSkreech, try the phone number, maybe
[06:57] <nicio> hitmanWilly: how do i get to Mozilla components directory (a different folder)
[06:57] <intelikey> hokatichenci i have to concur with you on that.  far to many dependant packages   many of which could and should not be dependancies.
[06:58] <hitmanWilly> nicio, it should be the same folder
[06:58] <conrad_> ok. so restarting the network doesnt work either. All that network restart deos is run dhclient, right?
[06:58] <hokatichenci> intelikey, I would be fine if it you know, was compiled and had dep's, couldn't be uninstalled, but it shouldn't be so tightly integrated for a purpose which I don't even fully understand and has limited usage
[06:58] <hitmanWilly> nicio, or try just ~/.mozilla
[06:58] <DaSkreech> hitmanWilly: the registrar has dual good info so if they are a phisher they are doing a lot of work
[06:59] <hitmanWilly> DaSkreech, :)
[06:59] <hitmanWilly> that's either real good or real bad
[07:00] <hitmanWilly> anyway, all, I need to get some sleep, early day tommorrow
[07:01] <DaSkreech> It's really bad for them either way
[07:01] <Drew3> Hi Folks, I have used a script that gathers all the multimedia 'stuff', it worked great, I forgot its name,   Whom ever knows get a big thank you
[07:01] <DaSkreech> hitmanWilly: Night thanks
[07:01] <DaSkreech> !easyubuntu
[07:01] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[07:01] <intelikey> conrad_ did you ifdown and ifup the interface ?    *example*  sudo ifdown eth0 ;sudo ifup eth0
[07:01] <DaSkreech> Drew3: the multimedia stuff is 2 minutes to enable it's faster than the script
[07:02] <conrad_> what does ifup do?
[07:02] <conrad_> return 1 if your connected?
[07:02] <DaSkreech> conrad_: it brings up a network interface
[07:02] <intelikey> if you ifdown.  you wont be connected
[07:02] <conrad_> ok im gonna do that. brb.
[07:03] <conrad_> ah, no go
[07:03] <conrad_> ifdown: interface wlan0 not configured
[07:03] <intelikey> ifconfig
[07:03] <intelikey> look at what you are connected over
[07:03] <conrad_> wlan0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:0D:3A:23:D0:37
[07:04] <intelikey> we probably didn't need your hardware mac address
[07:04] <conrad_> well
[07:04] <Drew3> Thank you  ubotu, DaSkreech
[07:04] <conrad_> wlan0 ;)
[07:06] <intelikey> ifconfig wlan0 down    will bring it down.   sudo /etc/init.d/network* start    should  bring it back up    may need  stop then start
[07:06] <conrad_> yep
[07:07] <conrad_> that definetely brought it down and put it back up.
[07:07] <conrad_> but im still not able to see webpages.
[07:07] <conrad_> im sitting here on irc, got kopete running, and i can ping google
[07:07] <conrad_> but i cant telnet to google on port 80.
[07:07] <conrad_> nor can i view webpages on different ports.
[07:07] <intelikey> then it's not the network.  most likely.    possable dns server
[07:08] <conrad_> the thing is, all of my other computers are fine, and this only happens after firefox crashes
[07:08] <khaije1> every now and then my drop-down menus will appear in the background of things... what is with that!?
[07:08] <intelikey> we need Jucato cause he's the network expert...
[07:08] <intelikey> :)
[07:09] <conrad_> weird eh?
[07:09] <conrad_> i so don't understand.
[07:10] <intelikey> conrad_ yeah,  i personally know extreemly little about networking.   almost as little as i know about kde.       but the Jucato being network guru was a joke so don't prode him about that.
[07:11] <kkathman> greetings all
[07:11] <conrad_> its just a bunch of data being sent over the air. what's the difference between telnet google.com 80, and telnet some mud server?
[07:11] <conrad_> yet the mud servers will connect...
[07:12] <conrad_> and how come rebooting fixes this
[07:12] <conrad_> yet not killing every process and restarting it
[07:12] <intelikey> the joke was a case of mistaken identity some years ago, and been kinda re-playing it as a comedy bit ever sense.
[07:13] <intelikey> conrad_ probably dns server ?   check /etc/resolv.conf
[07:13] <intelikey> on that box and on one that works  see if they are the same
[07:13] <conrad_> nameserver 192.168.2.1
[07:13] <conrad_> that's my router.
[07:14] <intelikey> ok
[07:14] <conrad_> and 'search workgroup'
[07:14] <conrad_> which i have no clue what that means.
[07:14] <intelikey> and on other *nix boxen ?
[07:14] <conrad_> eh i have a gentoo laptop somewhere
[07:14] <conrad_> one sec.
[07:15] <intelikey> conrad_ the 'search workgroup' is not from the same file is it ?
[07:15] <conrad_> yeah it is
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[07:16] <conrad_> just those 2 lines
[07:16] <conrad_> search WorkGroup  |  nameserver 192.168.2.1
[07:17] <intelikey> try changing that first line to      nameserver 209.244.0.4      or a free dns
[07:17] <intelikey> i'm not sure that one is free...
[07:17] <conrad_> that's the same that my gentoo box has
[07:17] <intelikey> but you can test it.
[07:17] <conrad_> 192.168.2.1
[07:17] <intelikey> no the other line
[07:18] <conrad_> ok.
[07:18] <conrad_> so two lines that say nameserver?
[07:18] <intelikey> yes
[07:18] <conrad_> ok, rebooting network brb
[07:19] <intelikey> i'm not sure that will hold through a reboot...
[07:19] <intelikey> idk.  i'll hush.
[07:21] <conrad_> back
[07:21] <conrad_> didnt work.
[07:23] <intelikey> conrad_ sorry,  i don't know enough to help you on that.
[07:23] <conrad_> no problem. it's weird as hell
[07:23] <conrad_> makes absolutely no sense to me
[07:25] <conrad_> alright thanks for trying
[07:25] <conrad_> bye
[07:43] <sk1llet> !ru
[07:43] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[07:47] <prak> does anyone know how to overwrite the contents of folder a onto folder b?
[07:49] <intelikey> mv
[07:49] <intelikey> !376
[07:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 376 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:50] <jussi01> Hello everyone. is there a way to make the screen go blank when I press alt + ctrl + l
[07:50] <prak> !cp
[07:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:50] <DaSkreech> jussi01: try F1 instead :)
[07:51] <intelikey> man cp    man mv    man man      man woman.... ooops no manual for woman.
[07:51] <ardchoille> prak: Isn't cp part of linuxutils?
[07:51] <ardchoille> !info linuxutils
[07:51] <ubotu> Package linuxutils does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[07:51] <prak> !linuxutils
[07:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linuxutils - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:51] <ardchoille> I guess not, lol
[07:51] <jussi01> DaSkreech: ??
[07:51] <prak> looking at man cp right now, ardchoille
[07:52] <Chris> it's part of coreutils
[07:52] <prak> !info coreutils
[07:52] <ardchoille> Chris: Ah, that's it.
[07:52] <ubotu> coreutils: The GNU core utilities. In component main, is required. Version 5.97-5.2ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 1428 kB, installed size 9036 kB
[07:53] <intelikey> all packages are optional on my box.   even libc6
[07:53] <intelikey> but i don't count
[07:53] <ardchoille> intelikey: Everyone counts :)
[07:54] <Chris> especially rain man
[07:54] <ardchoille> lol
[07:54] <shifty-> how can i make compiz run when x starts so i can run awn
[07:55] <intelikey> not me i just script it.     | while read line ;do n=$((0$n + 1)) ;done ;echo $n
[07:56] <intelikey> !autostart | shifty-
[07:56] <ubotu> shifty-: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[07:56] <shifty-> ubotu: so it has to run compiz --replace each time it starts?
[07:56] <intelikey> :)
[07:57] <intelikey> you might be able to set it up in /etc/X11/xinit or womething,  idk.
[07:58] <shifty-> oh
[07:58] <intelikey> you might be able to set it up in /etc/X11/default-display-manager   or womething,  idk.
[07:58] <intelikey> womething   heh
[08:01] <BadRobot> :-D
[08:01] <BadRobot> hi there
[08:02] <intelikey> shem
[08:02] <intelikey> er  high.
[08:03] <BadRobot> I need help,I just installed Kubuntu on my laptop,but after the update ,I had to reboot it,but now it won't starp up,it hungs on the HP logo and boot setup
[08:03] <BadRobot> so does anyone if it could be a hardware failure or HDD failure?
[08:05] <intelikey> of course it "could be hardware"  that's always possable
[08:05] <intelikey> it's also possable that some code didn't flush from the ram like it should have    or a device chip...
[08:06] <Jucato> intelikey: no fair talking about me when I'm taking a snooze :(
[08:06] <intelikey> but it's about as likely that grub or the initramfs.img is to blame
[08:07] <intelikey> Jucato heh...    sorry.
[08:07] <Jucato> heh no problem :)
[08:07] <intelikey> but you didn't mention sleep.    it's not really my fault.
[08:07] <intelikey> sleeping at this hour.   what's wrong with you ?
[08:08] <Jucato> asthma. that's what
[08:08] <BadRobot> I have done the diagnostic and RAM passed
[08:08] <Bebege> hey ya'll...
[08:08] <intelikey> oh. Jucato any thoughts on BadRobot's post ^   i gota run.
[08:09] <Jucato> er no... sorry
[08:09] <Bebege> anyone here know if there is a version of MSN Messenger for Linux?
[08:09] <holycow> okay apt-get autoremove ubuntu-desktop only removes the metapackage
[08:09] <holycow> not all its dependencies
[08:09] <intelikey> seems like several have been reporting boot issues after the latest updates.
[08:09] <ardchoille> !info amsn
[08:09] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.96+dfsg1-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 2488 kB, installed size 9108 kB
[08:09] <jussi01> Bebege: no, but there are programs for msn...
[08:09] <ardchoille> Bebege: ^^
[08:10] <holycow> any other ways of grabbing the deps of a metapackage and getting apt to purge them?
[08:10] <jussi01> !info kmess | Bebege
[08:10] <ubotu> bebege: kmess: Instant messenger to use MSN on KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.3-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1067 kB, installed size 2620 kB
[08:10] <jussi01> !info kmess | Bebege
[08:10] <jussi01> !info kopete | Bebege
[08:10] <ubotu> bebege: kopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu9 (feisty), package size 7108 kB, installed size 19632 kB
[08:10] <Bebege> zeen......
[08:11] <intelikey> holycow  apt-cache --rdeps package maybe ?  no not reverse.  but the man page covers it.
[08:11] <ardchoille> Isn't kopete installed in kubuntu?
[08:11] <Bebege> question.... do you know if it can carry out all the functions of Messenger, like voice and stuff?
[08:11] <jussi01> Bebege: no, no voice
[08:11] <prak> how do i exit from man in terminal?
[08:11] <jussi01> video yes
[08:11] <ardchoille> prak: q
[08:11] <intelikey> later folks.   shalom
[08:11] <jussi01> Later intelikey
[08:12] <kgx> !katapult
[08:12] <ubotu> katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[08:12] <holycow> danke, i shall try that
[08:19] <jussi01> ok, its been  an hour... [08:50]  <jussi01> Hello everyone. is there a way to make the screen go blank when I press alt + ctrl + l
[08:19] <Jucato> like lock session?
[08:19] <prak> thanks ardchoille
[08:20] <Jucato> jussi01: is that a small letter L?
[08:20] <jussi01> Jucato: yes
[08:20] <Chris> i thought ctrl + alt + l did lock session by default
[08:20] <Jucato> yeah it is
[08:20] <jussi01> it does, but i want a blank screen when i lock
[08:20] <Jucato> it also blanks the screen here
[08:20] <jussi01> not here
[08:21] <Chris> it depends which screensaver is set, i expect.
[08:21] <Jucato> mine isn't set so it blanks I guess
[08:23] <Jucato> jussi01: try settings the screensaver to Blank Screen
[08:23] <Jucato> oooh trekkie
[08:24] <jussi01> hmmm, am i going blind? where do they hide the screensaver now...
[08:24] <Jucato> right-click on the desktop -> COnfigure Desktop?
[08:24] <Jucato> or System Settings -> Desktop
[08:25] <jussi01> Jucato: thanks, that fixed it
[08:25] <jussi01> :)
[08:25] <Jucato> :P
[08:40] <arkygeek> hi.  I had beryl working beautifully, rebooted, and now it won't launch.... running on 24" imac
[08:40] <arkygeek> any ideas?
[08:41] <sk1llet> arkygeek: ubey sibya ap stinu
[08:41] <arkygeek> o_O ???
[08:41] <ardchoille> arkygeek: !beryl | arkygeek
[08:41] <sk1llet> b)
[08:41] <sk1llet> ya krevedko
[08:41] <ardchoille> arkygeek: Try asking in #ubuntu-effects
[08:42] <arkygeek> ardchoille: thx
[08:42] <ardchoille> yw
[08:42] <ardchoille> Somebody wake the bot up please
[08:42] <ce_lonely> buzz
[08:42] <Jucato> !beryl | ardchoille
[08:42] <ubotu> ardchoille: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:43] <Jucato> ardchoille: perhaps you used it incorrectly?
[08:43] <ardchoille> Jucato: Perhaps you're right
[08:43] <sk1llet> ya lublu ebatso
[08:44] <Jucato> sk1llet: English only please.
[08:44] <ardchoille> sk1llet: This is an Eglish channel. Which language are you speaking?
[08:44] <Jucato> russian. and he's in the ru channel
[08:44] <sk1llet> russian
[08:44] <ardchoille> sk1llet: Stop being silly ;)
[08:44] <sk1llet> am...
[08:44] <sk1llet> i love to fuck
[08:44] <sk1llet> this is
[08:44] <sk1llet> ya lublu ebatso
[08:45] <Jucato> !language | sk1llet
[08:45] <ubotu> sk1llet: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:45] <sk1llet> sorry
[08:45] <sk1llet> i need walk with my bear...
[08:53] <nicio> Jucato: to install java witch one to i have to click on in adept?
[08:53] <nicio> do*
[08:54] <Jucato> sun-java6-bin (or sun-java5-bin)
[08:54] <Jucato> or in Add/Remove Programs, just search for the Sun version
[08:54] <stdin> if you want the plugin uoi need the -plugin one too
[08:54] <stdin> s/uoi/you/
[08:54] <Jucato> yeah, for firefox
[08:54] <Jucato> hi stdin
[08:55] <stdin> :p
[08:55] <nicio> stdin: "uoi need the -plugin one too" didnt understand that part
[08:56] <Jucato> nicio: replace "uoi" with "you"
[08:56] <Jucato> that's what s/uoi/you/ practically means
[08:56] <stdin> nicio: if you want the java plugin you need to install the sun-java5-plugin package, or the sun-java6-plugin package
[08:56] <Jucato> in sed/vim speak
[08:56] <Jucato> for firefox mostly
[08:57] <stdin> works in konquror too
[08:57] <Jucato> hm.. I never had need to install the -plugin for Konq
[08:58] <stdin> for the jre?
[08:58] <Jucato> yeah, just the plain -bin/-jre worked last time
[08:58] <Jucato> never had use for Java anyway
[09:00] <nicio> Jucato: i select all u told me it download the packs in 1mili sec is that normal?
[09:00] <Jucato> it will still install, then it will ask you to agree to a license
[09:01] <nicio> Jucato: do u know how to install a bin file that is on the desktop?
[09:01] <nicio> Jucato: there was no licen to agreed
[09:01] <Jucato> O.o
[09:02] <stdin> Jucato: hmm, you're right "sun-java6-bin: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.02/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so" seems it's in -bin now :)
[09:02] <nicio> lol no
[09:02] <nicio> i have a bin file i want to install
[09:02] <Jucato> nicio: how did you download java? from where?
[09:02] <nicio> adept
[09:03] <Jucato> that bin file would be the java installer I presume?
[09:03] <nicio> no
[09:03] <nicio> its real player bin
[09:03] <Jucato> usually, you go to the directory where the .bin file is in, then you run it like "./filename.bin" (the ./ is important)
[09:04] <Jucato> you might have to use sudo with that. not really sure
[09:04] <stdin> nicio: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods
[09:04] <nicio> the normale plugins everyone told me to install never work,only the bin but i forgot how i install it the last time
[09:08] <nicio> stdin: after i add deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main close the window and do what?
[09:09] <stdin> nicio: open adept, then click on fetch updates, then you should be able to install realplayer from adept
[09:09] <stdin> nicio: or from Add/Remove
[09:12] <nicio> stdin: is that new?i never swa that way every time i was told to install the bin
[09:13] <stdin> nicio: no, it's been around for a while
[09:14] <nicio> stdin: why adept keep breakin packs?it allways the same for updates etc
[09:15] <kumamoto> could be the never ending update of linux386
[09:16] <nicio> stdin: realplay keeps faillin at 20% instalation
[09:17] <stdin> nicio: open konsole and do "sudo apt-get install realplay"
[09:20] <nicio> stdin: is there a way to put the dos window in english?it give me an error wen i sudo apt-get install realplay
[09:21] <stdin> nicio: it's not DOS :P, but put "LANG=C sudo apt-get install reallplay" to get english
[09:26] <nicio> stdin: i did LANG=C sudo apt-get install reallplay but why it saying Couldn't find package reallplay
[09:27] <stdin> nicio: realplay, not reallplay
[09:27] <nicio> stdin: that wa it said i paste it
[09:28] <stdin> nicio: copy & paste this line: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install realplay
[09:28] <Jucato> stdin: heh your typo :P
[09:29] <nicio> stdin: http://pastebin.com/mc5baf1c
[09:29] <stdin> nicio: remove helix-player first
[09:29] <nicio> oh
[09:30] <nicio> this is confution one thing can not install cause another
[09:31] <smileonu> where is the directory for scripts by konversation?
[09:32] <stdin> smileonu: ~/.kde/share/apps/konversation/scripts
[09:32] <Jucato> or /usr/share/apps/konversation/scripts/ for the system-wide/system-default ones
[09:32] <smileonu> ive try this, but there is noch directorie -.-
[09:32] <smileonu> i try 2nd one
[09:32] <stdin> smileonu: you can just make it
[09:32] <nicio> stdin: instalation succes tanks
[09:32] <smileonu> yes, but there is a default script
[09:32] <smileonu> ./media
[09:32] <smileonu> i want to change something
[09:33] <stdin> smileonu: if you put it in ~/.kde/share/apps/konversation/scripts it should override the system default (I think)
[09:33] <stdin> nicio: :)
[09:33] <smileonu> 2nd one is fine
[09:33] <smileonu> thx stdin
[09:35] <Jucato> smileonu: the /usr directory is for the ones that were installed by default and for scripts that all users will be able to use. you would need admin privileges to modify or add to those. the location stdin gave is for your own user. you can create that directory if it's missing
[09:36] <nicio> stdin: real player is install but the website still askin for the plugin to view the flash
[09:36] <nicio> firefox
[09:36] <stdin> !flash
[09:36] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[09:40] <holycow> heh
[09:40] <holycow> funny
[09:40] <holycow> to actually remove ubuntu-desktop and dependencies BUT leave kubuntu
[09:40] <holycow> what you HAVETO do
[09:40] <holycow> is generate two lists of dependencies
[09:40] <nicio> stdin: i install the none free allready.how do i know if my pc is 64b or 32b?
[09:41] <holycow> and only remove the booleaned ubuntu-desktop dependencies
[09:41] <stdin> holycow: or just google for "purekde"
[09:41] <holycow> BECAUSE ubuntu-desktoip DEPENDS on things like cups and acpi
[09:41] <holycow> >_<
[09:41] <holycow> and a bash library
[09:41] <Jucato> didn't I just give that link a few hours ago...
[09:41] <Jucato> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[09:42] <holycow> checking, never heard of it
[09:42] <stdin> shouldn't ubuntu-standard depend on cups/acpi etc. not ubuntu-desktop?
[09:42] <holycow> right!
[09:42] <holycow> one would think
[09:42] <holycow> do apt-cache depends ubuntu-desktop
[09:42] <holycow> unless i'm misunderstanding something about that command
[09:43] <holycow> aha great link thank you
[09:44] <stdin> holycow: both ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop have dependencies on those
[09:44] <holycow> indeed
[09:44] <stdin> but it should be in -standard imo
[09:44] <holycow> imho too
[09:45] <holycow> thats what i discovered when i finally generated a string containing all the deps ... heh i wouldn't be able to log back in ... >_<
[09:46] <holycow> fantastic linkage, thank you
[09:47] <holycow> that should be turned into a script and packaged up and put in the repos
[09:51] <stdin> seems there are 81 duplicate dependencies in {k,u}buntu-desktop
[09:52] <stdin> dependencies/recommends
[09:52] <holycow> right
[09:53] <holycow> well i didn't know that but ...
[09:53] <holycow> kinda crazy imho
[09:53] <holycow> obviously someone is much better with awk than me :)
[09:53] <holycow> lol
[09:55] <stdin> holycow: well, sort and uniq actually :)
[09:55] <Jucato> hope not --recurse?
[09:55] <holycow> considering the purpose of the metapackages its understandeable they try to pull in core packages
[09:56] <holycow> so my thought to use metapackage info to reverse the process isn't going to work
[09:56] <holycow> the purekde approach seems correct
[09:56] <holycow> just manually keeping a list of core de packages
[09:56] <stdin> Jucato: apt-cache depends kubuntu-desktop > k ; apt-cache depends ubuntu-desktop > u ; cat k u | sort | uniq -d > dups
[09:57] <holycow> nice :)
[09:57] <holycow> mine was faaaaaaaaaaar more long winded
[09:57] <holycow> lol
[09:58] <Jucato> I don't understand what that has to do with "81 dups"..
[09:58] <stdin> Jucato: duplications
[09:59] <Jucato> aren't you just comparing what deps kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop have in common?
[09:59] <holycow> heh in other words we should have two more metapackages
[09:59] <holycow> ubuntu-desktop-remove and kubuntu-desktop-remove
[09:59] <Jucato> metapackages are not for removing.... they are for installing
[09:59] <holycow> i disagree
[10:00] <holycow> metapackages are for agregating functionality
[10:00] <stdin> Jucato: if you look at the list, a lot of those should be in -standard I think, acip, cups, hal ...
[10:00] <Jucato> stdin: and they aren't?
[10:01] <stdin> Jucato: nope
[10:01] <Jucato> hm...
[10:01] <holycow> the problem really is that my wanting to remove gnome and using ubuntu-desktop to try to accomplish that is the wrong approach
[10:02] <holycow> what we have discovered is that there is an overlap to some degree but the metapackage serves a differentpurpse from what a de does
[10:02] <nicio> Jucato: how can i read a url file from xp?
[10:02] <Jucato> nicio: don't know
[10:02] <holycow> Jucato: for fucks sake, stop being an mwilson
[10:02] <holycow> jesus f christ dude :)
[10:03] <holycow> oops sorry haha
[10:03] <nicio> ohmy | holycow
[10:03] <Jucato> !language
[10:03] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:03] <Jucato> and I don't even know who that is
[10:03] <stdin> nicio: cat file.url ?
[10:03] <holycow> Jucato: seriously, you seem like a smart fellow, stop being so pedantic
[10:03] <Jucato> fine
[10:03] <holycow> Jucato: *nod* i don't mean it as an insult, in #debian there was  aperson named mwilson for a long time
[10:03] <nicio> stdin: its i file that was save in favorit on xp
[10:04] <holycow> and he was a very bright person who was correct all of the time but just focused in on minutia making it hard to communicate
[10:04] <Jucato> too late for that
[10:04] <holycow> :)
[10:04] <stdin> nicio: yeah, I think they are just a file with a url in them, try opening it with kate or use "cat filename.url"
[10:04] <holycow> no i rally didn't mean it as an insult, it comes accross that way because i have a fuse ... you have been nice to me
[10:05] <happytiger> Hey there. what is a cool gui unmount tool. So my girlfriend can easily unmount her usbflash disc? Starting a konsole and typing sudo umount /media/somename is to scarry for her
[10:05] <Jucato> happytiger: right-click on the icon on the Desktop
[10:05] <holycow> happytiger: konqueror
[10:05] <holycow> or what Jucato said
[10:06] <stdin> happytiger: the url media:/ should help too
[10:06] <happytiger> Ah oki I never new this guess I am to much of cli junkie :-) cool knew there must be another way both I never bothered before lol
[10:07] <happytiger> thx
[10:07] <nicio> stdin: kate did it
[10:07] <waylandbill> one of the rules of the channel is to watch the language, so it doesn't seem trivial to me and I'm sure others.
[10:12] <nicio> stdin: how can i save a flash video with firefox and konqueror
[10:12] <nicio> ?
[10:12] <stdin> I don't know, there's probably some firefox extension for it tho
[10:12] <holycow> google that
[10:13] <holycow> lots of different tools for linux
[10:20] <waylandbill> there's tons of different FF extensions to save video files.
[10:28] <erikja> !wireless
[10:28] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:34] <nicio> u
[10:34] <bernd> hi, i got no sound with kubuntu, it seems that it needs pulseaudio and only root have the permission to connect to pulseaudio. have anybody an indea why?
[10:35] <gordonjcp> hi
[10:35] <gordonjcp> how do I change the colours for icon labels on the desktop, in particular getting rid of the mid-grey outline?
[10:36] <nicio> !sound
[10:36] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[10:37] <nicio> gordonjcp: right click the icon u want to change theres a lttile icon key cllick on that
[10:37] <nicio> gordonjcp: right clic>propeti
[10:38] <dotz> i need some help on mounting nfs........... i specified RW for mounting a nfs.. in nfs server i've set RW in /etc/exports.. now i got 2 machines mounting a nfs server.. one is debian and one is feisty.. same settings totally..but feisty cannoot write on it and debian can
[10:38] <dotz> what is wrong!
[10:38] <dotz> i've been trying to troubleshoot for days
[10:39] <gordonjcp> nicio: I don't see an option to change the style of the title
[10:39] <dotz> do i need some kind of drivers to write in NFS for feisty?
[10:40] <gordonjcp> dotz: probably some user mapping problem
[10:40] <Jucato> gordonjcp: right-click on the desktop -> Configure Desktop -> Background -> Advanced Options button (at the right side)
[10:40] <gordonjcp> Jucato: aha
[10:41] <dotz> user mapping
[10:41] <dotz> both machines debian and ubuntu both in root
[10:41] <gordonjcp> Jucato: that's got it, thanks
[10:41] <dotz> uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)
[10:41] <gordonjcp> I have readable titles now ;-)
[10:41] <gordonjcp> dotz: no-root-squash?
[10:41] <dotz> both mounting using same option and same folder same permissions
[10:41] <dotz> in nfs server /etc/exports i had that added
[10:42] <dotz> and done a exportfs
[10:46] <bernd> i don't find anything about my sound problem. if i type "amixer" i get the message: "*** PULSEAUDIO: Unable to connect: Connection refused"
[10:47] <nicio> dotz: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[10:47] <bernd> only if i'm root it works (but then there is also no sound)
[10:47] <nhatz96> guys
[10:47] <stdin> whois xp_killer
[10:48] <nhatz96> xp_killer:  how to setup dcpserver in XP
[10:48] <xp_killer> dotz: o_O
[10:48] <xp_killer> lol it wake him up lol
[10:49] <stdin> xp_killer: ban evasion is not a good thing to do...
[10:49] <xp_killer> stdin: ban evasion?i didnt escape i had problem with linux
[10:50] <xp_killer> no one could of help so i reinstall
[10:50] <stdin> xp_killer: your ban is still in place...
[10:51] <nicio> stdin: oh so what should i do change room?
[10:51] <nicio> q_p
[10:52] <nicio> no answer guess i stay then
[10:53] <dotz> i've read again and again
[10:53] <dotz> tried to verify using another machine
[10:53] <dotz> but i don't get it why 3 comps with feisty can't mount
[10:54] <dotz> 3 comps with debian can mount
[10:54] <dotz> all same settings
[11:21] <combinio> can someone help with cedega?? :: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37083/ :: don't know what error is this (?) :|
[11:21] <combinio> something about python... i guess ;P
[11:23] <combinio> ... no one on this channel ? :]  crap!
[11:24] <stdin> combinio: did you look at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[11:24] <stdin> combinio: or ask in #cedega
[11:25] <combinio> stdin: ok i'll ask :)
[11:25] <cody> Hello all
[11:28] <enjoi1216> kkathman bro whats kickin
[11:29] <enjoi1216> is anybody awake in this room
[11:30] <enjoi1216> thinks everybody in this room has gotten zombiefied
[11:31] <enjoi1216> hey stdin
[11:31] <stdin> \o
[11:31] <enjoi1216> hey how do i go about reinstalling yahoo messenger on kopete
[11:31] <stdin> delete the account and recreate it?
[11:32] <enjoi1216> well walk me through it because i have taken linux before but i'm not certain of what to do because i am more of a hands on step by stop person
[11:33] <enjoi1216> stop = step
[11:33] <enjoi1216> are you there
[11:33] <enjoi1216> ?
[11:33] <stdin> open kopete, go to settings > configure > accounts and remove it
[11:33] <stdin> then add a new one
[11:34] <enjoi1216> ok hang on let me try it and see if it works
[11:36] <_4strO> hi there
[11:36] <enjoi1216> ok stdin now heres another problem i'm contending with
[11:37] <stdin> yep?
[11:37] <enjoi1216> ok like i have a myspace profile like a myspace account because i have friends ther and enjoy talking to all my friends there
[11:37] <dotz> what is needed for NFS client?
[11:37] <dotz> what packages
[11:38] <dotz> in order for it to able to write
[11:38] <combinio> how to figure out do i have 3d acceleration on my Radeon 9600 ?
[11:38] <enjoi1216> anyway is ther anyway i can confifure my browser to get it to where i can log into my myspace account
[11:38] <combinio> cuz Direct Rendering: YES, but acceleration, not sure
[11:38] <stdin> enjoi1216: you cant?
[11:39] <stdin> combinio: you do if it has "yes"
[11:39] <combinio> but in cedega - Rendering and acceleration are two different things :/
[11:39] <combinio> and rendering - YES, but 3d - NO :/
[11:39] <combinio> strange...
[11:39] <stdin> enjoi1216: or why cant you login, rather?
[11:39] <enjoi1216> well see heres the thing like i have to get on my Windows XP machine just to log in because Firefox or Konquerer isn't letting me log inte my myspace account
[11:39] <combinio> stdin: is there some command ?
[11:40] <enjoi1216> yeah thats what i'm getting at
[11:40] <enjoi1216> i mean is there anything i can do about that
[11:40] <stdin> combinio: you may need to use xgl to use 3d acceleration
[11:41] <stdin> enjoi1216: what do you mean it's not letting you? what happens?
[11:41] <combinio> oh i see...
[11:41] <combinio> so i'm not gonna be involved in xgl.. i dislike it :)
[11:41] <enjoi1216> ok like when i go http;//www.myspace.com
[11:41] <combinio> stdin: thx for info anyway :)
[11:41] <enjoi1216> and then i go to log in
[11:42] <enjoi1216> like i punch in my user name and password
[11:42] <enjoi1216> and then i klik sign in
[11:43] <enjoi1216> then it tries to flag me like saying lost your password
[11:43] <enjoi1216> and i know that i have entered the right username and password
[11:43] <enjoi1216> because i have even slowed down my typing and looked down at the keyboard while i'm typing to make sure the password that i am entering is correct
[11:44] <enjoi1216> but it won't let me sign in through either browser period
[11:44] <enjoi1216> and i don't understand that
[11:44] <enjoi1216> unless i need to go into the browsers and delete the cookies
[11:45] <enjoi1216> but see stdin i doubt that is going to help anything
[11:45] <enjoi1216> i mean what can you tell me
[11:45] <enjoi1216> because this has me confused
[11:46] <enjoi1216> stdin are you there
[11:46] <stdin> enjoi1216: i just created an account, works fine here, on both browsers
[11:47] <enjoi1216> well do i need to make the browser save my password
[11:47] <enjoi1216> see because i told it not to
[11:49] <stdin> enjoi1216: in firefox, Edit > preferences > security > exceptions (under Passwords)
[11:51] <enjoi1216> ok let me try it again
[11:52] <enjoi1216> stdin thats not working worth a shit
[11:52] <stdin> !language
[11:52] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:53] <enjoi1216> ok i'm sorry
[11:53] <enjoi1216> does the government watch this channel
[11:53] <SlimeyPete> yes.
[11:53] <enjoi1216> ok anyway stdin what can i do
[11:54] <stdin> not sure, it's all working here when I try
[11:54] <enjoi1216> does it work through K
[11:55] <enjoi1216> when you use it
[11:55] <enjoi1216> Konquerer
[11:55] <stdin> yep
[11:56] <kumamoto> enjoi1216: the govt thing funny
[11:56] <enjoi1216> well Kuma
[11:56] <enjoi1216> it just bothers me because when i had the linux mandrake loaded it worked fine
[11:57] <enjoi1216> now i get my new Kubuntu program and it doesn't want to work for nothing
[11:57] <SlimeyPete> that's Linux for ya.
[11:57] <enjoi1216> i mean i don't know if i should format my harddrive and reload linux or not
[11:57] <enjoi1216> because everybody else is getting myspace to work
[11:58] <SlimeyPete> try a different web browser?
[11:58] <wers> on konqueror, I accidentally removed the File, Edit, Settings, etc. menus. How do I get them back?
[11:58] <enjoi1216> i have the only other alternative you can use is firefox
[11:59] <llutz> wers ctrl-m
[11:59] <wers> got that!
[11:59] <enjoi1216> i mean what else cani do pete
[11:59] <wers> thanks llutz!
[11:59] <enjoi1216> i mean do i just need to blow my comp away and reload linux
[12:00] <SlimeyPete> enjoi1216: opera
[12:01] <pillowpants> hi there, how do you enable more repositories?
[12:01] <enjoi1216> opera i dont' get it i'm trying to find out
[12:01] <rixxon> I recall some application for generating graphical front ends for textual applications on the fly, any one know the name of this program?
[12:01] <pillowpants> for instance, i did an apt-cache search audacious, and it came up empty
[12:01] <enjoi1216> because this is supposed to be a linux support line
[12:01] <stdin> !opera
[12:01] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[12:01] <SlimeyPete> !universe | pillowpants
[12:01] <ubotu> pillowpants: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:02] <pillowpants> thanks
[12:02] <pillowpants> are there any 3rd party repositores for ubuntu?
[12:02] <pillowpants> like in gentoo or slackware?
[12:03] <stdin> !source-o-matic | pillowpants
[12:03] <ubotu> pillowpants: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:03] <enjoi1216> ok i klikws rhw link and i'm downloading it right now
[12:05] <llutz> pillowpants: audacious is in universe
[12:06] <dotz> heyyyy
[12:06] <dotz> :)_ i found out why i cannot write on nfs already.. not sure if it is a bug
[12:07] <dotz> in my fstab
[12:07] <dotz> can i share with u all?
[12:07] <dotz> if i put
[12:07] <dotz> 192.168.2.201:/video/share /mnt/nfs/share nfs rw,defaults 0 0
[12:07] <dotz> 192.168.2.201:/video/data /mnt/nfs/data/ nfs ro,defaults 0 0
[12:07] <dotz> then /mnt/nfs/share can write
[12:08] <dotz> if i put 192.168.2.201:/video/data /mnt/nfs/data/ nfs ro,defaults 0 0 first infront of 192.168.2.201:/video/share /mnt/nfs/share nfs rw,defaults 0 0
[12:08] <dotz> then /mnt/nfs/share cannot write
[12:08] <dotz> sequence of mounting?
[12:08] <dotz> ro overwrite rw?
[12:08] <stdin> maybe, look it up on launchpad
[12:09] <dotz> what's a lanuch pad?
[12:09] <dotz> haha
[12:09] <dotz> i took so much time to figure this out..zz
[12:10] <stdin> launchpad is what's used (amongst other things) to track bugs in ubuntu (and other projects)
[12:10] <stdin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/
[12:11] <jhutchins> dotz: I notice a slight difference in the format of the lines.
[12:11] <llutz> dotz: try ../data instead of .../data/
[12:12] <dotz> without the '/'?
[12:12] <llutz> dotz: shouldn't make a difference but try it
[12:13] <dotz> right..tried without '/' i think its the same
[12:13] <dotz> ro overwrite rw when you next mount it
[12:13] <dotz> think it will follow ro
[12:14] <pillowpants> how would i make xterm my default shell, and not konsole?
[12:15] <Jucato> pillowpants: System Settings -> Default Applications -> Terminal Emulator
[12:15] <Q-collective> Hey all. When I try to start wpa_supplicant from the kwlan menu, it errors, saying that it was unable to start wpa_supplicant. Can anyone help me out?
[12:15] <mrtimdog> Hi, is this the place to ask about kubuntu gutsy and compiz?
[12:16] <pillowpants> Jucato: i dont see a default applications option
[12:16] <kumamoto> Q-collective: I bet knetworkmanager can help u there
[12:16] <stdin> mrtimdog: no, #ubuntu+1 is
[12:16] <Jucato> pillowpants: what version of Kubuntu are you running?
[12:16] <mrtimdog> stdin: ok :)
[12:16] <pillowpants> dapper
[12:16] <Jucato> aah
[12:16] <Q-collective> kumamoto: knetworkmanager couldn't even handle wpa, or at least I couldn't find any options there
[12:16] <Jucato> System Settings -> Personal I think
[12:17] <Jucato> pillowpants: or System Settings -> KDE Components.not exactly sure. but it's in there
[12:17] <dotz> so is this a bug?
[12:18] <stdin> dotz: look it up on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ if it's not there, report it
[12:18] <dotz> oooh ok! =)
[12:19] <pillowpants> Jucato: thanks, found it
[12:19] <DocTomoe> during installation, my keyboard/Mouse (both usb) won't work the moment gnome starts up. what can I do?
[12:20] <DocTomoe> (both do fine on my other machine)
[12:27] <pillowpants> what versions of ubuntu are you guys running?
[12:27] <pillowpants> any reason i should stick with dapper?
[12:29] <kumamoto> Q-collective: I use knetworkmanager with wpa2
[12:31] <kumamoto> just make sure wpasupplicant is installed if it hasn't been and if using knetworkmanager then uninstall kwlan
[12:34] <Q-collective> kumamoto: ok, I installed knetworkmanager, now what do I do? :>
[12:43] <thx1137> anyone know what the equivilant of Sessions in Gnome is in KDE?
[12:43] <chimaera> thx1137: please elaborate
[12:44] <thx1137> in gnome, there's something called "Sessions" that lets you edit & add startup items.  Was wondering if KDE had something similar
[12:45] <chimaera> well, there's teh service & sessoin manager within kcontrol
[12:46] <thx1137> oh, where is that located? (e.g. "Sessions" is in System>Preferences>Sessions)
[12:46] <Jucato> !autostart | thx1137
[12:46] <ubotu> thx1137: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[12:47] <Jucato> thx1137: by default, KDE saves the session when you logout and restores it when you login
[12:47] <Jucato> all you need is to leave open the app you want to be restarted when you login
[12:49] <thx1137> ok, thanks, was going to relay to someone, but they left.. but good to know, thanks for the info
[12:59] <kumamoto> Q-collective: go to the menu under internet and click on it
[01:00] <kumamoto> Q-collective: it will then show up in the taskbar and it will detect all wireless ssids in the area then pick yours
[01:01] <Q-collective> it doesn't see any wireless ssid's
[01:01] <kumamoto> it does tend to store the wpa keys in kdewallet so once u enter the wpa key it will only ask for the kdewallet password
[01:01] <kumamoto> Q-collective: no ssids
[01:02] <kumamoto> hmm weird
[01:02] <Q-collective> indeed
[01:02] <Q-collective> wlassistant does see the ssid's
[01:02] <Q-collective> but can't connect :)
[01:03] <jhutchins> Feedback on wireless handshaking is pretty much nonexistant, it's hard to troubleshoot.
[01:03] <kumamoto> have u installed ndiswrapper?
[01:04] <jhutchins> kumamoto: If his drivers weren't working he wouldn't see the AP.
[01:04] <kumamoto> ah just assumed he had drivers working
[01:05] <jhutchins> Q-collective: If you have full control of the AP, try changing the security settings, leaving it open for instance.
[01:05] <Q-collective> sadly, I don't
[01:05] <jhutchins> There are a lot of devices that currently have problems due to different formats for entering/storing keys.
[01:05] <kumamoto> or could have the APs ssid turned off
[01:06] <Q-collective> I don't have any access to the AP :)
[01:06] <pillowpants> how do you make a .sh file executable?
[01:06] <jhutchins> Q-collective: How did you enter the key?
[01:06] <jhutchins> pillowpants: I use chmod +x or just  execute it with bash/dash.
[01:08] <Q-collective> jhutchins: I don't even get that far, knetworkmanager just doesn't see the ssid's and wlassistant can't handle WPA or something (at least it keeps whining about entering a WEP which is not needed).
[01:08] <jhutchins> Q-collective: ok, use the console tools then.
[01:10] <Q-collective> jhutchins: I'm completely new with wpa_supplicant, any simple howto's for that?
[01:11] <kumamoto> Q-collective: ndiswrapper, wpa_supplicant & knetworkmanager should be installed
[01:11] <Q-collective> they are
[01:11] <kumamoto> it should work with no issue
[01:11] <Q-collective> the key word here is "should" :)
[01:11] <kumamoto> drivers for the wireless card installed
[01:11] <jhutchins> Q-collective: None that i know of, it's currently outrunning the documentation.  we do have this:
[01:11] <Q-collective> the card works fine
[01:11] <jhutchins> !wireless | Q-collective
[01:11] <ubotu> Q-collective: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:11] <Q-collective> at home I have access, no trouble
[01:11] <kumamoto> Q-collective: try http://avasarala.blogspot.com/2006/08/experience-installing-and-running.html
[01:12] <Q-collective> thx
[01:15] <pillowpants> when i type 'glx-gears' its says its not there
[01:15] <pillowpants> what package is that a part of?
[01:17] <_4strO> pillowpants: try with glxgears
[01:17] <thoreauputic> $ dlocate glxgears mesa-utils:
[01:17] <thoreauputic> pillowpants: it's in mesa-utils
[01:18] <Q-collective> is there not a possibility that some kde app just autmagically connects to the strongest AP?
[01:18] <pillowpants> ah, _4str0, bravo, it was glxgears
[01:18] <pillowpants> without the hyphen
[01:18] <_4strO> ^^
[01:19] <jhutchins> Q-collective: Read the docs, use the command line utils if necessary.
[01:20] <Q-collective> sigh, I don't want to read a dozen docs, try stuff for hours and learn a new cli application
[01:20] <Q-collective> I just want it to work
[01:20] <Q-collective> hence why I chose for kubuntu
[01:20] <jhutchins> Run windows.
[01:20] <jhutchins> Next.
[01:20] <chimaera> ^^
[01:20] <Q-collective> lol, I said I want it to work
[01:20] <Q-collective> so windows is not an option
[01:20] <Q-collective> ;)
[01:21] <_4strO> what is AP ?
[01:21] <Q-collective> access point
[01:21] <_4strO> haok :p
[01:21] <chimaera> well, Q-collective, wireless and linux can be a bitch, depending which hardware you are using, so probably there isn't an easy way around standing knee-deep in some docs.. sorry.
[01:21] <pillowpants> thanks for the help, im off
[01:21] <pillowpants> see ya
[01:22] <Q-collective> sigh :)
[01:22] <Q-collective> oh well
[01:23] <Q-collective> what I was wondering is, is there a roaming feature?
[01:23] <Q-collective> or is that a hardware feature only?
[01:23] <chimaera> i also found that wpa is difficult, again, depending on the card/driver you're using. check the site of wpa_sup, there'S plenty of docs for lots of distributions.
[01:24] <Q-collective> thx, willdo
[01:25] <Faderhval> hello guys :) im having some trouble running WoW the graphics are very laggy and the cursor dosent show proper anyone got some experience with wow on kubuntu fiesty 7.04 og have an idea to what i can do??
[01:26] <gans20|malchik> could you guys recommend any other RSS readers for KDE than akregator?
[01:26] <_4strO> Faderhval: you should have a look on cedega website or irc channel
[01:27] <chimaera> no, wine is sufficient for running wow, no need for cedega.
[01:27] <chimaera> check http://gentoo-wiki.com/index.php?title=HOWTO_Install_and_update_World_Of_Warcraft_with_wine
[01:27] <chimaera> most things apply to any distro.
[01:28] <Faderhval> chimaera: thanks i'll have a look
[01:29] <powr> where to find driver for epson stylus photo 1270?
[01:29] <stdin> gans20|malchik: kitty is another aggregator
[01:29] <stdin> !printers | powr
[01:29] <ubotu> powr: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[01:29] <chimaera> !driver
[01:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about driver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:29] <Q-collective> hmm, I think I'll just install Gentoo instead. These "make it simple" distro's just create too much fuzz if something doesn't work imho.
[01:29] <Q-collective> but oh well
[01:30] <jhutchins> Q-collective: Yeah, that'll really hurt our feelings, teach us a lesson.
[01:30] <chimaera> Q-collective: ah, i don't think gentoo will make it any easier, but well, off you go ;)
[01:30] <powr> stdin: tnx
[01:31] <Q-collective> jhutchins: I'm not teaching you any lesson, don't be such a dick to people :\
[01:31] <chimaera> actually, i have to agree.
[01:31] <jhutchins> We're all just other users here.  You don't want to do the homework, don't complain that stuff doesn't work.
[01:31] <gans20|malchik> thanks stdin
[01:32] <Q-collective> jhutchins: that's my point, but I guess you missed it, glad that we agree though
[01:32] <jhutchins> No other distro has as much current doccumentation that's as easy to find.
[01:33] <chimaera> that'S simply not true
[01:33] <jhutchins> chimaera: Example/
[01:33] <jhutchins> ?
[01:33] <chimaera> gentoo has by far one of the best supporting communities with tons of documentation.
[01:33] <jhutchins> Hah.  Fine.
[01:34] <jhutchins> True, you will almost always be directed to the master doc index if you have a problem with gentoo.
[01:34] <chimaera> well, i don't use gentoo, but most of their docs and howtos apply to any otehr distro as well, so i'm auite happy those guys are out there.
[01:35] <jhutchins> I find the ubuntu docs more accessible myself.
[01:35] <jhutchins> The gentoo docs are good, if you know what you need to find in the first place, and know that the doc exists and where it is.
[01:36] <chimaera> can't really say that. i'm using (k)ubuntu for two years now, afer spending a long time with debian. and while the distro itself is very comfortable, the community and docs are rather, well, it might be me, i just don't get along with it.
[01:37] <jhutchins> I also feel like ubuntu does a better job of getting updates posted where you can find them when things changed.
[01:37] <chimaera> might be true, i don't know about that.
[01:38] <jhutchins> I've been maintaining some obsolete gentoo boxes for several years, and it's hard to stay "in channel" well enough to know what you need to know to keep it running.  If you fall behind, you get ridiculed.
[01:39] <jhutchins> Q-collective: Sorry if you feel I'm being a dick, by the way, but I don't know enough about your particular setup to tell you anything more specific.
[01:40] <jhutchins> Q-collective: It's most likely a formatting error on the keys, like I said before.  Easiest to fix with the cli interface.
[01:40] <jhutchins> For what it's worth, I've had the same problem with Windows and ended up having to replace hardware to get it working.
[01:41] <chimaera> i think that's is more an issue because of the philosophy of gentoo. it is aimed at other people that ubuntu. is you want total control, well, you can have it. but for the cost of time you have to spend to maintain it and keep up with development. while you have that power in any distro, ubuntu doesn't require you to do.
[01:41] <jhutchins> Keeping up with development is the tough part for a non-developer, I think.
[01:43] <chimaera> i don't meant the develpment of every app, but of the whole system. how does startup work? where are thi init skripts? what changes are there regarding hotplug and so on. with gentoo, you have to keep up with that. also with debian, or with slack. with ubuntu, suse, fedore and the like, you don't.
[01:43] <chimaera> those are the black-boxes of linux-distos. you can open them and look in, but you don't have to.
[01:45] <kvrohit> join
[02:02] <Faderhval> quick question how do i shutdown x ?
[02:02] <jhutchins> Faderhval: You want to kill it or just restart?
[02:03] <Faderhval> kill i think i need to install my nvidia driver.
[02:03] <stdin> !nvidia | Faderhval
[02:03] <ubotu> Faderhval: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:04] <lordofthepigs> Hello, How can I chose the columns diplayed in Konqueror detailed list view?
[02:04] <lordofthepigs> For some reason, my "last modified" column is gone
[02:04] <lordofthepigs> and I have no idea how I did that
[02:05] <lordofthepigs> I looked around, but I can't find where I can add it back to the view
[02:05] <jhutchins> Faderhval: basically  sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[02:05] <Faderhval> thanks
[02:06] <Jucato> lordofthepigs: View menu -> Show Details ->
[02:08] <lordofthepigs> Oh...
[02:09] <lordofthepigs> thanks Jucato
[02:20] <Faderhval> !nvidia
[02:21] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:25] <Faderhval> hey guys following the guide for nvidia drivers on ubuntu... but how do i know whick Restricted linux moduels i need for my kernel?
[02:30] <bongfrog> any idea why when I run Kubuntu on my lcd tv   all of the fonts are displayed so big it is unusable???
[02:31] <bongfrog> driving me nuts
[02:32] <chimaera> bongfrog:  well, what vga-card do you use? which resolution is set? how did you connect the pc to the tv?
[02:32] <chimaera> Faderhval: dpkg should handle that by itself.
[02:32] <stdin> Faderhval: just run "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)"
[02:32] <jhutchins> bongfrog: Probably because most TV's are < 640x480 resolution
[02:33] <chimaera> jhutchins: nout lcd tvs
[02:33] <jhutchins> bongfrog: NTSC is 720 x 486
[02:33] <bongfrog> it is the onboard of a dell 3000 i810 intel i think.....    this happons at all resolution i choose..  other distors (fedora) worked fine at 1200 768 (or the one that is close to that)  and it is connected via vga...
[02:34] <bongfrog> umm coffee
[02:34] <chimaera> i once had such a problem with my tft until i set the DisplaySize parameter within xorg.conf correctly.
[02:35] <bongfrog> even when I boot the live kubuntu 7.04   same results.   If i hook up another monitor all it well
[02:35] <bongfrog> DisplaySize??   I will look at that
[02:35] <judgen> How do i resize a partition on the primary hard drive?
[02:35] <bongfrog> er all is well
[02:35] <chimaera> judgen: use a live-cd to resize it.
[02:37] <judgen> chimaera: its not the partition where kubuntu resides. Shouldnt i be able to do it from within kubuntu then?
[02:37] <bongfrog> chimaera do you remember what section the DisplaySize parameter is in??
[02:37] <chimaera> judgen: probably, i would opt for teh live-cd (kubuntu-install-cd should do the trick) anyway.
[02:37] <judgen> chimaera: i dont have one.
[02:38] <judgen> and no empty cd either
[02:38] <chimaera> bongfrog: Section "Monitor"
[02:38] <chimaera> judgen: well then, try using (qt)parted then from the installation. but create soem kind of backup, will you? ;)
[02:40] <chimaera> bongfrog: e.g.  DisplaySize    519 324   .. the size is actually given in mm!
[02:40] <bongfrog> chimaera: I found it in the man pages.    Not sure if I have a metric ruler that big.    Grin
[02:41] <bongfrog> chimaera:  Thanks for the point....
[02:41] <chimaera> bongfrog: you're welcome.
[02:44] <Sevenhill> hi there
[02:44] <chimaera> hi
[02:45] <Sevenhill> do you have any information about when it might be released the tribe 6 ?
[02:45] <Sevenhill> ?
[02:46] <chimaera> most of teh time, no answer means noone has any idea. not writing anything then saves time and traffic.
[02:46] <jhutchins> Sevenhill: #ubuntu+1 or the web pages.
[02:56] <kkathman> moin all :)
[02:59] <judgen> the clock is 15 over here =)
[02:59] <judgen> ok im off to dinnerparty.
[03:00] <sami_> hello
[03:00] <MG> hi
[03:00] <ceslovas> hi
[03:00] <MG> is it cold there yet?
[03:02] <Lacrymology> anyone here from israel, or that writes in hebrew, or Yiddish, or knows how to make kubuntu do it?
[03:03] <BluesKaj> !il | Lacrymology
[03:03] <ubotu> Lacrymology:         :
[03:03] <ubotu> /join #ubuntu-il
[03:09] <david_> hi
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[03:10] <BluesKaj> I'm a bit puzzled by Thunderbird 2.0 ...it doesn't launch URL links when clicked on. I was checking the about cofig editor, but there doesn't seem to be a "launch browser "setting anywhere in the list ...any ideas ?
[03:11] <Blindet> cant get ALi soundcard work. no mixer installed it says
[03:12] <BluesKaj> Blindet, sudo apt-get install kmix
[03:14] <MG> Blindet: let us know how that works out
[03:14] <Blindet> okay i will
[03:15] <BluesKaj> Blindet, check your k-menu/system settings/sound system
[03:16] <BluesKaj> kmix is part of the kubuntu-desktop , it should already be installed
[03:17] <Blindet> kmix is already installed
[03:18] <Blindet> and what do i check from kmenu/system settings/sound system
[03:21] <MG> you are probably going to need some sort of boot command line parameter
[03:21] <Blindet> :o
[03:21] <BluesKaj> Blindet, uhhm , make sure it's enabled and choose hardware ALSA
[03:24] <MG> what does dmesg say about sound cards at boot time
[03:24] <MG> ?
[03:24] <Blindet> ?
[03:25] <MG> if your computer has not been running for too long, you can run dmesg from a command line and it will tell you the state of detected hardware
[03:26] <Blindet> okay
[03:26] <MG> it it has been running for too long the boot time messages will be gone
[03:33] <sPiTeFuLL> !kde
[03:33] <aguitel> anyone know this error in totem :No accelerated IMDCT transform found
[03:37] <MG> The IMDCT transform is related to the ac3 playback. On linux, you need to compile liba52 with djbfft
[03:37] <MG> per google
[03:41] <Lacrymology> what the hell
[03:42] <combinio> how to change KDM theme? I downloaded new themes *.tar.gz but can't install them :/
[03:42] <Lacrymology> I get prompted with the "Run as root" dialog, enter my password and get a "conversation with su failed"
[03:42] <combinio> !kdmtheme
[03:43] <kumamoto> combinio: you will have to configure and install them like installing an app from source
[03:43] <combinio> kumamoto: some more clues, please ? :)
[03:43] <kumamoto> ./configure --prefix=/usr something like that depending on the developer
[03:44] <combinio> kumamoto: but there is only that archiwum
[03:44] <combinio> *archive
[03:44] <kumamoto> check the README for more clues but is how I got new themes on mine laptop
[03:45] <MG> !theme
[03:45] <Blindet> MG i got that dmesg
[03:45] <MetaMorfoziS> kumamoto > where you get this information?
[03:45] <Blindet> [ 27.110178]  ALI15X3: IDE controller at PCI slot 0000:00:0e.
[03:46] <Blindet> [ 27.110207]  ALI15X3: chipset revision 199
[03:46] <MetaMorfoziS> Kdm themes isn't need configure/build, etc.
[03:46] <Blindet> [ 27.110209]  ALI15X3: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
[03:46] <Blindet> [ 27.110221]  ide0: BM-DMA at 0xff00-0xff07, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pi
[03:46] <Blindet> [ 27.110233]  ide1: BM-DMA at 0xff08-0xff0f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DM
[03:46] <Jucato> !paste | Blindet
[03:46] <MetaMorfoziS> The only need is to set up correct the /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc file (The Theme=xxx parameter)
[03:46] <Jucato> hm... bot's down..
[03:46] <MetaMorfoziS> o rinstall kdm-theme package
[03:46] <Blindet> hmh.
[03:47] <Blindet> so, tell me site or something..
[03:47] <MetaMorfoziS> that is a kcontrol module and does this automatically, and from gui.
[03:47] <Jucato> kumamoto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[03:47] <Jucato> see the KDM section
[03:47] <HA|Spark> hoi
[03:47] <combinio> i've install KDMtheme already
[03:48] <combinio> but must be launched with admin rights... and there is no admin mode button anywhere :/
[03:48] <Jucato> combinio: Alt+F2, "kcontrol", go to System Administration -> KDM Theme Manager
[03:48] <BluesKaj> Blindet,  lspci | grep audio , to find your soundcard
[03:49] <Jucato> Blindet: just don't paste multiple lines (more than 2) in here. use the pastebin link in the /topic to do that
[03:49] <combinio> Jucato: u're the one! thanks a lot :)
[03:49] <HA|Spark> hi! can anyone tell me how i connect to my wlan using the console. with iwconfig i found my wlan adapter, searched for avaiable networks but don't know how to connect to one of them..
[03:50] <kumamoto> Jucato: u r right for some reason I was thinking KDE themes and KDM sorry there combinio
[03:51] <combinio> kumamoto: ok - thanks for u too :)
[03:51] <peter_> Anyone solved the non-working plasma desktop problem with the KDE4 beta 2 packages yet?
[03:51] <Blindet> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37108/
[03:51] <Jucato> kumamoto: heh no worries. so many people get that wrong, so you're in good company :)
[03:52] <Blindet> MG, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37108/
[03:57] <MG> Blindet, yep ther's yep problem.
[03:57] <MG> yer, that is
[03:57] <Blindet> ooo...kay
[03:58] <MG> chuckle
[03:58] <Blindet> and, how do i fix it? :D
[04:01] <MG> try modprobe snd-ali5451 just to see what happens
[04:02] <MG> MG, are you running kubuntu feisty ?
[04:02] <MG> Blindet, that is
[04:03] <MG> i forgot i'm MG today
[04:03] <MG> it gets confusing sometimes
[04:04] <BluesKaj> Blindet, is that a 5.1 or more  channel sound system
[04:04] <BluesKaj> ?
[04:05] <Blindet> no, its just normal sound card
[04:05] <Blindet> no flashy things like 5.1
[04:05] <BluesKaj> ok
[04:06] <BluesKaj> ALi is a company I've not heard of
[04:06] <MG> that snd-ali5451 is the only ali module that i find in feisty /lib/module/*
[04:06] <MG> modules, that is
[04:06] <Blindet> wrote it, and nothing happened
[04:07] <MG> check dmestg
[04:07] <MG> dmesg, that is
[04:08] <MG> "nothing happened" it the correct response for a successfully inserted module
[04:08] <MG> is, that is
[04:08] <BluesKaj> Blindet, I have to ask the obvious question ,have you done a search for linux drivers
[04:08] <paradix86> qualcuno che parla italiano?
[04:08] <MG> you dont have to look at all of the dmesg output, just the end
[04:10] <jhutchins> MG: Perhaps suggest the -v option to avoid confusinon.
[04:10] <jhutchins> MG: (when suggesting modprobes)
[04:10] <Blindet> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37111/
[04:11] <Blindet> ......
[04:11] <Blindet> http://list.driverguide.com/list/LINUX/company57/index.html
[04:11] <Blindet> damn
[04:11] <Blindet> could those be any help
[04:15] <MG> run kmix and see if you have a mixer now
[04:15] <BluesKaj>  Blindet , http://www.cmediadrivers.info/driver/Linux/Ac97/cmaudio-070.tar.bz2
[04:16] <MG> i suspect that that driver is the same one that you just installed the module for
[04:16] <Blindet> okay
[04:17] <MG> is it cold in Finland?
[04:17] <Blindet> chilly, still +3'c
[04:17] <Blindet> its cold when it reaches -28
[04:18] <BluesKaj> <---was born in Kaavi Finland
[04:18] <MG> we are getting just a little chilly now that we are getting in the low 60F's at night
[04:19] <genii> 0 to -7 C isn't horrible. It's when it starts going to -15 and below
[04:20] <genii> Windchill etc
[04:20] <BluesKaj> was 12C/55F here last nite ...not really cool yet
[04:21] <BluesKaj> yup,genii , but that damp Lake Ontario wind penetrates
[04:21] <billytwowilly> anyone else having hotmail time out when you try to connect in all linux browsers, but working fine in windows on the same machine?
[04:22] <BluesKaj> ppl still use hotmail ?  ;)
[04:23] <MetaMorfoziS> ppl can be stupid:)
[04:23] <Blindet> ppl still use email ? ;)
[04:23] <Blindet> i moved on the letters, they are cool
[04:23] <BluesKaj> not stupid MetaMorfoziS , just not very aware
[04:24] <ksivaji> is there any command to dependency of  a package
[04:24] <ksivaji> is there any command to find *dependency of  a package
[04:24] <genii> billytwowilly: Actually I've noticed at one of our computer labs, withing windoze firefox is working for hotmail but IE6 is not
[04:24] <BluesKaj> Blindet, did yoy see my post for the audio drivers ?
[04:24] <genii> Which is totally wierd
[04:24] <Blindet> no ni didnt : D
[04:24] <Blindet> sorry
[04:24] <Jucato> ksivaji: apt-cache depends <package>
[04:25] <BluesKaj>  Blindet , http://www.cmediadrivers.info/driver/Linux/Ac97/cmaudio-070.tar.bz2
[04:25] <Jucato> ksivaji: or do you mean a .deb package you downloaded from somewhere?
[04:25] <ksivaji> yes
[04:25] <ksivaji>  Jucato : yes
[04:26] <Jucato> no luck... you have to manually try it out
[04:26] <Zaffa_Cakes> Hey
[04:26] <Jucato> ksivaji: or use the program called gdebi
[04:26] <MG> Blindet,  is there any chance that you could try the gutsy live cd or some other more recent distro?
[04:26] <ksivaji> Jucato what it wil do ?
[04:26] <Jucato> but I think that's going to install some gnome stuff (the kde version doesn't arrive until gutsy)
[04:27] <Jucato> ksivaji: manually install the .deb package. it will complain if dependencies aren't met and tell you what's missing
[04:27] <BluesKaj> MG, I think he has the right drivers now
[04:27] <billytwowilly> genii: can you get on hotmail in linux now? I'm weirded out a bit because I tried this from school and home with different computers and got the same result..
[04:27] <MG> cool
[04:27] <ksivaji> Jucato ok
[04:27] <BluesKaj> dunno anyone with a hotmail acct
[04:28] <Zaffa_Cakes> Anyone has time to help me setup kubuntu on a macbook?
[04:28] <peter_> Anyone solved the non-working plasma desktop problem with the KDE4 beta 2 packages yet?
[04:28] <billytwowilly> just type in www.hotmail.com ... it's not failing at the login, it's failing to load the page at all.
[04:29] <poison--> Zaffa_cakes , whats the problem
[04:29] <BluesKaj> hotmail is MS , what does a linux user expect ? :)
[04:30] <Jucato> hotmail works fine here for me in Konqueror
[04:30] <BluesKaj> the hotmail  login page comes up in FF
[04:30] <Zaffa_Cakes> poison i have a few :P mainly the keyboard, i have danish layout and also the wifi, keep getting errors when trying to install it
[04:31] <poison--> zaffa_cakes , whats the wlan brand and model
[04:32] <Blindet> MG, maybe i could, but first i wanna try it with this.
[04:34] <Zaffa_Cakes> atheros but dont know what model poison
[04:34] <Murchadh`> A great link to useful commands - http://blog.lxpages.com/ultimate_network.html
[04:34] <Zaffa_Cakes> poisin> i think its the newest actually, brand new macbook with N-network
[04:34] <poison--> not helpfull
[04:34] <poison--> lmao
[04:35] <MG> cool, the only reason i suggest a later version is the discrepancy in model numbers
[04:35] <Zaffa_Cakes> hmm where do i find out then?
[04:35] <genii> billytwowilly: Let me try. 1 minute or so
[04:36] <Zaffa_Cakes> dont laugh at the noobs ill just crawl back to windows :p
[04:36] <poison--> eheheh
[04:36] <poison--> did u try madwifi yet
[04:36] <Zaffa_Cakes> yea its the one that gives me errors when i try to install it
[04:36] <Blindet> driver that BluesKaj recommended... im not sure who to install it
[04:36] <poison--> do u have all te latest packages
[04:37] <poison--> headers, restricted n stuff
[04:37] <TeSiS> hola queria saber un canal de Kubuntu en espaol
[04:37] <TeSiS> gracias
[04:37] <Zaffa_Cakes> yup
[04:37] <Zaffa_Cakes> i think
[04:37] <Zaffa_Cakes> i downloaded the lastest from madwifi.org
[04:37] <JuJuBee> !sp > TeSis
[04:37] <genii> Bah need to re-affirm my hotmail, haven't logged in in 90 days etc etc
[04:38] <JuJuBee> !es > TeSiS
[04:38] <Jucato> TeSiS: #kubuntu-es or #ubuntu-es
[04:38] <Jucato> JuJuBee: bot's down
[04:38] <JuJuBee> K
[04:38] <poison--> zaffa, get libasound2_1.0.13-1ubuntu5_i386.deb and libasound2-dev_1.0.13-1ubuntu5_i386.deb
[04:39] <lordofthepigs> TeSiS: #ubunut-es
[04:39] <lordofthepigs> sorry: ubuntu-es
[04:40] <TeSiS> ok
[04:40] <TeSiS> gracias
[04:40] <Zaffa_Cakes> hmm where do i get them?
[04:41] <genii> billytwowilly: Hotmail works fine wirth my Firefox, I have 2.0.0.6 and Sun Java
[04:41] <poison--> tried google
[04:41] <poison--> u ight get em from sourceforge too
[04:41] <poison--> might
[04:42] <BluesKaj> thunderbird email links don't work
[04:42] <BluesKaj> switched back to kamil
[04:42] <BluesKaj> kmail
[04:42] <billytwowilly> genii: lame, then maybe it's a gutsy thing...
[04:43] <genii> billytwowilly: Perhaps. This is a Feisty box
[04:44] <Zaffa_Cakes> poison i dont have any rightclick hehe its really annoying
[04:45] <Zaffa_Cakes> when i try to download the file it opens in kate?
[04:46] <Jucato> billytwowilly: www.hotmail.com front page loads fine in Konqueror. feisty and gutsy
[04:46] <Jucato> loads in firefox feisty too
[04:46] <poison--> anyone had any issue with an ASUS M2N, sound dont seems to work
[04:47] <BluesKaj> my ISP has been MS'd too , I'm surprised since it's a division of Bell
[04:47] <prudvi> hi
[04:47] <prudvi> i have problem
[04:47] <prudvi> with emerald instalation
[04:47] <prudvi> can some one help me out pls
[04:47] <Jucato> billytwowilly: completely works... konqueror and firefox, feisty and gutsy..
[04:47] <Jucato> !compiz | prudvi
[04:48] <Jucato> bah!! I forgot...
[04:48] <Jucato> prudvi: #ubuntu-effects for compiz and beryl help
[04:48] <prudvi> unresolvable dependancies'
[04:51] <genii> MG: they can make nice coffee-warmer plates
[04:51] <Jucato> lol
[04:51] <MG> currently 979KBs
[04:52] <MG> that's hot
[04:59] <cbtis155> hola
[05:00] <MG> bien venidos
[05:01] <cbtis155> alguien abla espaol
[05:02] <cbtis155> buen dia mg
[05:02] <MG> no habla espanol senor
[05:05] <BluesKaj> !es | cbtis155
[05:07] <BluesKaj> cbtis155, /join #kubuntu-es
[05:17] <genii> back
[05:18] <genii> Damn wanted to thank jucato but he left now :(
[05:18] <cee> hi, i have my fglrx module loaded(kubuntu gutsy), and my laptop hang when i try to do a suspend. Anyone know why?
[05:18] <cee> ati x1400
[05:20] <genii> cee: Suspend in gutsy is also messed up for me but i am using an Nvidia 7600GT
[05:20] <cee> hm, okai.. i had the same problem with feisty
[05:21] <cee> but it works if i unload the fglrx module
[05:24] <MG> Blindet, don't bother trying gutsy live, it does not specifically have a ali5455 driver
[05:24] <Blindet> MG, and i cant get it to work on feisty either..
[05:25] <genii> cee: No idea then
[05:25] <genii> cee: May be more who know of it in #ubuntu+1 or #kubuntu-devel
[05:28] <ceg23312> hey I a have quick question
[05:28] <ceg23312> I am having problems with mounting a usb thumb drive without having root access
[05:28] <ceg23312> any thoughts?
[05:29] <nosrednaekim> Hey everyone!!
[05:29] <ceg23312> hey there nosrednaekim
[05:29] <JuJuBee> what do I install for wav support ?
[05:30] <ceg23312> what kind of wav support are you looking for?
[05:30] <nosrednaekim> ceg23312: use the disk and filesystems wizard
[05:30] <JuJuBee> Audio
[05:30] <ceg23312> just to play
[05:30] <JuJuBee> Yes
[05:30] <ceg23312> or record
[05:30] <JuJuBee> play
[05:30] <ceg23312> or both
[05:30] <ceg23312> well I would say to download xmms and try that
[05:31] <JuJuBee> I normally use Amarok for audio, it does not support wav by default.  Can I add it?
[05:32] <ceg23312> hmm I am not sure... I know that with xmms you can use just about all the formats, but best bet to check Amarok's site
[05:32] <genii> !info wavpack
[05:32] <genii> bah no bot
[05:32] <genii> from apt-cache: wavpack - an audio codec (lossy and lossless) - encoder and decoder
[05:34] <BluesKaj> JuJuBee, what do you mean amarok doesn't support waav by default ?
[05:34] <BluesKaj> wav
[05:34] <JuJuBee> I downloaded a wav file and it said there was no codec installed.
[05:35] <BluesKaj> what said ?
[05:35] <JuJuBee> Amarok
[05:35] <nosrednaekim> thats odd...
[05:35] <JuJuBee> When I tried to drag and drop into amarok.
[05:35] <gwinn> somebody from Russia?
[05:35] <nosrednaekim> JuJuBee: try installing "libxine-extracodecs"
[05:35] <BluesKaj> very odd , unless the file isn't really a wav file
[05:35] <JuJuBee> Think it is already installed, I have mp3 support.
[05:36] <JuJuBee> Hmmm, never thought of that.
[05:36] <BluesKaj> try a cd
[05:36] <JuJuBee> I will look into that first.
[05:36] <JuJuBee> Don't have one, who uses CD's anymore... hehe,
[05:36] <ceg23312> hmm the device manager is showing my usb drive but is not letting me mount it
[05:37] <BluesKaj> ppl with car cd palyers and real audio systems
[05:37] <poison--> jujubee, try apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg
[05:37] <BluesKaj> not some crappy lil digital player
[05:38] <gwinn> hello everybody, i'm looking someone who can tell about bootsplash changing (sorry for my english, i'm from russia)
[05:39] <MG> what is it changing to?
[05:39] <gwinn> hm, i'm just want to change my boot screen
[05:40] <BluesKaj> gwin , system settings/spalsh screen
[05:40] <BluesKaj> splash
[05:40] <gwinn> no no, when system boot, that screen
[05:41] <BluesKaj> you mean grub ?
[05:41] <gwinn> after that
[05:41] <BluesKaj> that's the one
[05:41] <ceg23312> hey gwinn, I know that this is off topic, but I was wondering if there is cryllic type chats?
[05:42] <gwinn> why not? :)
[05:42] <ceg23312> I haven't thought of the idea until just a second ago
[05:42] <ceg23312> lol
[05:43] <gwinn> damn, i'm understand badly :(
[05:43] <ceg23312> I am taking Russian 101 at my university this term, and its such a great language
[05:44] <BluesKaj> gwinn, I know what you mean but , why .. it only lasts for a few secs
[05:45] <gwinn> some practice with Kubuntu, i'm take it 2 weeks ago, so i'm noob :)
[05:47] <gwinn> i'm work with linux before, but remote, under windows(uses ssh, scp), now i'm install Kubuntu onto my laptop, and i'm got some things that i can't to do
[05:48] <BluesKaj> gwinn, well then i think worrying about the bootsplash is not important  :)
[05:48] <voln> is kubuntu support usb 2.0?
[05:50] <gwinn> you now, i'm can to config mysql, apache, and some system things, but i'm feel comfort then i'm control system totaly.
[05:50] <MG> kubuntu supports usb 2.0
[05:50] <gwinn> :)
[05:50] <kekstyle> slt
[05:52] <voln> MG how can i check this?
[05:53] <MG> plug in a usb 2.0 device,  check dmesg output, send a large file to the devices and check how long it takes then calculate the speed
[05:54] <MG> device, that is
[05:54] <voln> MG i'm noticed that win xp transfer files faster...
[05:56] <MG> voln, be careful with that.  win xp may be reporting the transfer finished before it actually is.  if you unplug the device before the transfer is finished, the copy of the file on the device will be truncated
[05:56] <MG> .
[05:58] <MG> [ 1715.156000]  usb 3-6: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 5
[05:58] <voln> MG but i  have 2.0
[05:58] <MG> USB 2.0-compatible device (ehci_hcd)
[05:59] <MG> 2.0 is standard
[06:00] <MG> kubuntu supports usb 2.0
[06:00] <voln> MG thanks for info, i need a more deep test for this
[06:01] <BluesKaj> voln, i don
[06:01] <BluesKaj> think xp is faster ...the reverse is true on my pc
[06:02] <voln> BluesKaj me be i'm wrong
[06:03] <BluesKaj> voln , it also depends on what processes and apps are running at the same time
[06:04] <voln> no processes, only mp3 files
[06:05] <voln> I'm transfering mp3 files, it's very slow always
[06:06] <samuel_> que hay
[06:06] <samuel_> 196.128.
[06:06] <samuel_> como me conecto a una pc
[06:08] <poison--> what samuel
[06:08] <samuel_> necesito entrar en la pc de mi novia
[06:09] <samuel_> solo tengo su ip y la mascara
[06:09] <BluesKaj> !es | samuel_
[06:09] <stdin> samuel_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:10] <samuel_> gracias
[06:10] <BluesKaj> da nada
[06:12] <trekdanne> i tried to help my friend set up *butunu and told him to run "sudo apt-get install ; sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[06:12] <trekdanne> but he hasn't come only again after that
[06:12] <trekdanne> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[06:12] <trekdanne> i mean
[06:13] <trekdanne> and i think something may have gone seriously wrong here
[06:15] <BluesKaj> !media
[06:23] <tom__> hi, how can i make kubuntu automatically run a command when my usb stick is mounter?
[06:23] <tom__> *mounted
[06:26] <tom__> anyone here?
[06:26] <stdin> !hi
[06:26] <ubot3> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[06:26] <cigan> ciao a tutti
[06:26] <cigan> ragazzi mi chiarite un dubbio?
[06:26] <stdin> !it
[06:26] <ubot3> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:27] <cigan> sorry
[06:27] <genii> !helpersnack | stdin
[06:27] <ubot3> stdin: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[06:27] <cigan> bye
[06:28] <BluesKaj> genii , they do have a god his name is Bill Gates :)
[06:28] <BluesKaj> <---couldn't resist that comment
[06:29] <genii> BluesKaj: What, the bears worship Gates?
[06:30] <BluesKaj> ??... genii
[06:30] <genii> BluesKaj: :) Was just thinking of Stephen Colbert's description of bears, "...godless killing machines..."
[06:30] <BluesKaj> oh him ...ok :)
[06:31] <BluesKaj> frankly , his humour goes right over my head most of the time
[06:32] <jhutchins> genii: well... for all we know, they aren't Christian, which meand godless in his lexicon, and they eat meat that they usually kill for themselves, so...
[06:34] <genii> jhutchins: LOL yes. What reminded me of bears and Colbert, in #ubuntu-offtopic    [12:15]  <-- mc44 has left this server ("Exit, Pursued by a Bear").
[06:34] <jhutchins> Ah, excellent exit line.
[06:35] <jhutchins> I know I miss some good stuff masking them, but I miss a lot more 'konversation terminated'.
[06:35] <BluesKaj> got a suggestion for traceroute apps besides xtracroute ... it seems to stop in chicago for most IP addys when I suspect the country the person is not in north america
[06:36] <BluesKaj> ?
[06:36] <genii> Perhaps they are using some proxy machine based in Chicago
[06:37] <BluesKaj> yeah could be
[06:37] <kristjan_> is where a site where I can check compatibility of various hardware with linux?
[06:37] <genii> !hcl
[06:37] <ubot3> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[06:37] <BluesKaj> wow , ubot3 is fast :)
[06:38] <BluesKaj> stdin, deserves more than just a cookie :)
[06:38] <npillowpats> so i exited a game of armagatron, and my screen was put to a small resolution
[06:38] <npillowpats> how would i fix that?
[06:38] <npillowpats> whats the reset x command?
[06:39] <gcrackah> yello
[06:39] <stdin> BluesKaj: it's actually not mine :P it's another one
[06:39] <BluesKaj> oh, bummer
[06:40] <BluesKaj> npillowpats, k-menu/system settings/monitor&display/
[06:40] <venik> I have a Phillips USB webcam, but when I try to use camorama I get an error message: Could not connect to video device
[06:40] <venik> can anyone help?
[06:40] <poison--> brb
[06:40] <venik> It works fine under XP on the same machine
[06:41] <jhutchins> !webcam | venik
[06:41] <ubot3> venik: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[06:41] <jhutchins> venik: Sadly more web cams don't work than do.
[06:42] <smshUA> hello. have a Q, just DLed kubuntu live-cd, but i can't found automount feature in it. does it exist in kubuntu (against gnome ubuntu) ?
[06:43] <stdin> smshUA: look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[06:44] <martijn81> when i try to burn an audiocd from out of mp3 with K3B, i get this error: http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/7198/macabredw3.png   Can i fix this?
[06:45] <BluesKaj> martijn81, sudo apt-get install libk3b2-mp3
[06:45] <pillowpants> you do you reset x?
[06:45] <pillowpants> not crt alt backspace
[06:45] <smshUA> question is why ubuntu has automount out-of-the-box, but kubuntu has not?
[06:46] <martijn81> BluesKaj: i love you man!
[06:47] <ubuntu_> bonjour tt le monde
[06:47] <poison--> llo
[06:47] <martijn81> !fr | ubuntu_
[06:47] <ubot3> ubuntu_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:48] <ubuntu_> hello every body
[06:48] <ubuntu_> it's an english room i think !
[06:48] <martijn81> hi ubuntu_
[06:48] <genii> pillowpants: When only login screen, ctrl-alt-f1     login there. then: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[06:48] <ubuntu_> sorry i thought it's french but no problem
[06:48] <BluesKaj> !english
[06:48] <martijn81> yeah, sorry but everyone needs to be able to understand each other
[06:48] <ubot3> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[06:48] <pillowpants> genii: my problem happens when i close a full screen game
[06:49] <genii> pillowpants: But if only at kdm login, ctrl-alt-backspace is fine too
[06:49] <pillowpants> genii: my screen resolusion shrinks
[06:49] <ubuntu_> ok martijn it's the first time am using ubuntu ,..
[06:49] <pillowpants> i usually have stuff open, so i cant just restart kdm like that
[06:49] <genii> pillowpants: Try ctrl and + key or - key together for other possible resolutions
[06:49] <ubuntu_> really strange seems working on windows
[06:50] <difouriane> re
[06:51] <pillowpants> genii: alright
[06:52] <BluesKaj> difouriane, what's strange ?
[06:53] <Solifugus> all day yesturday and today, digg.com has been freezing firefox... anyone else experience this?
[06:53] <martijn81> difouriane: do you like kubuntu? do you have problems?
[06:53] <genii> pillowpants: Or ctrl-alt  then + or - on number pad to right
[06:53] <genii> bah he left
[06:54] <BluesKaj> martijn81, have you installed the mp3 codecs in amarok , or do you use it ?
[06:55] <martijn81> BluesKaj: yeah, i have libxine-extracodecs installed and use it for mp3
[06:55] <martijn81> but i don't use the popup from amarok, i install it manually
[06:56] <BluesKaj> ok good , just thought I'd ask since most ppl who don't have it on K3B , don't have it installed on amarok either
[06:56] <martijn81> i see :) thanks
[06:57] <artic> ?
[06:58] <hcbox> i have some kind of problems with gstreamer, when i launch quod libet it told me that it didn't found the filesrc in Gstreamer ... Tried to reinstall the packages and nothing change...
[07:06] <alyx> hello
[07:06] <alyx> i have a strange Vmware question fo kubuntu
[07:07] <alyx> i have a vm for windows running that i want to use my my wireless card with but when i configure it it tell me that its mis configured
[07:08] <stdin> alyx: use NAT
[07:08] <alyx> ok
[07:08] <alyx> is there any way to use a totaly different card?
[07:09] <alyx> if its not being used by ubuntu?
[07:09] <PHILka> hi all
[07:10] <stdin> alyx: no, definitely not with vmware
[07:10] <alyx> ok thats what i thought
[07:10] <alyx> but NAT should work for wireless
[07:11] <alyx> thanks stdin im trying the nat now
[07:11] <stdin> !ping
[07:12] <ubotu> pong
[07:13] <Tm_T> ubotu: welcome dear :)
[07:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about welcome dear :) - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:13] <alyx> ok i have it set to nat and i have the wired eth0 bridged do i remove eth0 for the wires and set ath0 (wireless) to nat?
[07:14] <stdin> nat shouldn't need to use any particular interface
[07:15] <alyx> ok so remove eth0 bridge and just use NAT
[07:16] <alyx> or jsut set NAT ok got it
[07:16] <alyx> trying it lol
[07:16] <stdin> yep :p
[07:18] <alyx> so ive removed the bridge and set NAT only its booting )fingers crossed)
[07:19] <craftycorner> ok, I entered sudo nautilus and am trying to change permissions to a file.  they won't change, I added the USB hard disk into the wrong username
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> depending on the usbhd and how its mounted. and its filesystem. you may NOT be able to change permissions on it.
[07:20] <craftycorner> then what do I do, unplug the USB drive and then install it again?
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> depends on what the exact issue is.. and whats going on with it.
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> do not "JUST UNPLUG" it.
[07:20] <craftycorner> then what do I do
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> unmount it manually, mount it properly. give some actual Details as to what the problem is.
[07:21] <alyx> stdin it didnt pick up the connection i changed the ethernet in the GUI to nat and reboot the vm
[07:21] <craftycorner> ok...doing so
[07:21] <alyx> but it didnt have a connection
[07:21] <stdin> alyx: afaik, it needs to be set while the vm isn't on
[07:21] <judgen> I have a problem still. Why cant i get decent volumes with kubuntu. It works fine to play music in BeOS, Windows and FreeBSD but in kubuntu i only get very low volumes.
[07:22] <alyx> i did that i used the config.pl to do it before i powered on vm
[07:22] <craftycorner> ok, going into crafty to unmount
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> crafty?
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> gee i just use 'sudo umount what4ever' :)
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> Differance tween and  old timer and new users I guess. I dont even knwo what crafty IS.. :)
[07:23] <stdin> alyx: there a #vmware they may be able to help
[07:23] <DaSkreech> Anyone runs VM for Windows?
[07:23] <alyx> thanks
[07:23] <alyx> yeah
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> ive ran vmware server under linux and windows. :)
[07:24] <alyx> DaSkreech
[07:24] <craftycorner> unmounted
[07:24] <DaSkreech> alyx: hi :)
[07:24] <craftycorner> I had to switch users to unmount the thing
[07:24] <EP_> wow...
[07:24] <DaSkreech> Dr_Willis: I have a specialist group who want to move to Linux but the software seems very hardcoded windows and does some uberfunky things that I wouldn't trust WINE with
[07:24] <EP_> people
[07:25] <alyx> hi
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> DaSkreech vmware may be a good idea then.
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> depending on the app. :)
[07:25] <craftycorner> Dr Willis?
[07:25] <EP_> yo, does anyone in here mind helping out a n00b to the kubuntu interface?
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> craftycorner ?
[07:25] <craftycorner> here
[07:26] <craftycorner> sucker's unmounted, got files in it, can I mount it in root?
[07:26] <jetsaredim> anyone running thunderbird on gutsy?
[07:26] <EP_> I'm trying to find my default OS boot settings, but have no idea where anything is
[07:26] <alyx> whats up DaSkreech
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> got files in it? Huh?
[07:26] <jetsaredim> i can't seem to keep it running for more than like 2 min before it keeps crashing
[07:26] <DaSkreech> Dr_Willis: can I expose PCMCIA ports to the VM?
[07:26] <DaSkreech> EP_: Sure what's up?
[07:26] <craftycorner> yes, I thought it would work no matter what user i was using
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> DaSkreech that - i am not sure.. ive not messed with the hardware stuff in vmware at all.
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> craftycorner if you mount it properly with the right options all users can access it.. youmay want to start at the begining and tell us some info. as to the TYPE and Filesystem of the usbdrive.
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> so far i am very vague on the details. :)
[07:27] <DaSkreech> alyx: played with VM stuff?
[07:27] <alyx> yeah i rum wm workstation
[07:27] <craftycorner> it's got a windows filesystem, but it's not used in Linux.  Passport
[07:27] <alyx> with win and OSX
[07:28] <DaSkreech> alyx: Heavily?
[07:28] <EP_> aight, basically, whenever I boot my comp, it takes me to an OS selector where kubuntu is the default
[07:28] <alyx> define heavily lol
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> craftycorner ntfs or vfat?
[07:28] <craftycorner> it's a USB hard drive.
[07:28] <craftycorner> you plug it in and it plays
[07:28] <EP_> can i change it so I select which OS without it autoselecting for me
[07:29] <DaSkreech> EP_: You don't want it to auto choose something?
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> craftycorner try a 'sudo fdisk -l' and look at the sd## entries - see if its a ntfs or vfat formated partition, and what partion names it has.
[07:29] <EP_> no
[07:29] <craftycorner> plug it in again?
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> craftycorner and you just want to copy some files off it?
[07:29] <llutz> EP_: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst, parameter "default"
[07:29] <DaSkreech> EP_: ok Hold on a second
[07:29] <craftycorner> it's a back up, kinda like a pen drive.  let me get you the details...
[07:30] <DaSkreech> EP_: press alt+F2
[07:30] <craftycorner> it's a usb passport 60 gig
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> 'passport' means nothing to me.. thats the brand name?
[07:30] <DaSkreech> type in kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:30] <DaSkreech> EP_: that should give you a editor with a file
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> Theres oooodles of bot factoids on this topic.. wonder if i can rember any of them.
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> !vfat
[07:31] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[07:31] <DaSkreech> alyx: can I make partitions on the virtual hard drive?
[07:31] <craftycorner> getting the data.
[07:31] <kaminix|benkyou> Okay, this is the second album today. Why does this keep happening? ERROR: Input file "the brilliant green - Stand by me/01 - Stand by me.flac" is not a supported format
[07:31] <kaminix|benkyou> Both the files it's happened with seemed to have been encoded using flac.exe
[07:31] <craftycorner>  Western Digital 60 GB USB 2.0 Passport 2.5" External Hard Drive ( WDXMS600TN ) [CD] 
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> a external usb drive should show up as a /dev/sd## device. - If its mounting wrongly. You can mount it manually.  or try that ntfs-confgure tool to alter the fstabs for you.
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> Grand kid is yelling.. bbl
[07:32] <craftycorner> remounting, seeing if that works
[07:32] <EP_> yep
[07:32] <EP_> got it
[07:33] <DaSkreech> EP_: Let me know when it's up
[07:33] <DaSkreech> ok
[07:33] <craftycorner> it mounted...
[07:33] <DaSkreech> find the line that says timeout
[07:33] <EP_> k
[07:33] <jussi01> !adeptfix
[07:33] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[07:33] <craftycorner> now it say's it belongs to me, the other user.  it seems it mounts into whatever user is online
[07:33] <DaSkreech> EP_: what does it say?
[07:34] <craftycorner> owner, me.
[07:34] <EP_> 10 seconds
[07:34] <craftycorner> group=root
[07:34] <craftycorner> root has no access to files
[07:34] <DaSkreech> EP_: try something like -1
[07:34] <EP_> k
[07:34] <llutz> DaSkreech: 0
[07:35] <EP_> >_>
[07:35] <craftycorner> by the way, do I need those windows files?
[07:35] <EP_> well which is it?
[07:35] <DaSkreech> llutz: yeah I was thinking that but I didn't know if that just allways booted to default :)
[07:35] <DaSkreech> EP_: try 0
[07:35] <EP_> ehehe
[07:35] <EP_> aight
[07:35] <DaSkreech> if you reboot and it doesn't work then try something lower :)
[07:35] <EP_> ok
[07:35] <craftycorner> apparently it does
[07:35] <EP_> now, question 2
[07:35] <craftycorner> kk.
[07:36] <EP_> I'm running an ATI Radeon X1900 video card on dual screens
[07:36] <EP_> it won't detect my secondary
[07:36] <craftycorner> those windows files use 5 gigs of data.  do I need them if i hop into windows?
[07:36] <DaSkreech> !xinerama
[07:36] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[07:36] <DaSkreech> !dualhead
[07:36] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[07:36] <DaSkreech> Ah man Do I HAVE to see !xinerama again?
[07:37] <craftycorner> can this drive work in windows with no windows programming aboard?
[07:38] <DaSkreech> craftycorner: Dr_Willis is helping you?
[07:38] <EP_> it said it wasn't configured, and that I had to restart X server or something similiar
[07:38] <craftycorner> he was...
[07:38] <EP_> but once again
[07:38] <EP_> being my first day
[07:38] <EP_> i have no idea how to do that
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> grandkid needed me.. :)
[07:38] <craftycorner> oh sorry,  didn't see that
[07:38] <DaSkreech> EP_: The quick dirty way is to press Alt=Ctrl+BkSpc
[07:39] <DaSkreech> EP_: that's really abrupt and  you lose all unsaved work
[07:39] <llutz> DaSkreech: aeh, he wants to see the grub-menu endless? then it is #timeout (commented out)  i thought he wanted to boot into default without waiting, sry
[07:39] <DaSkreech> eCrap :-)
[07:39] <craftycorner> LOL
[07:39] <samuel> hola
[07:40] <craftycorner> this isn't an emergency, I'll hit the forums w it
[07:40] <_Shade_> how can i determine which module should i load for my usb modem?
[07:40] <craftycorner> thanks 4 u help!
[07:40] <craftycorner> bye
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> craftycorner if its mounted try the 'mount' command to see where it mounted to, and what options it used.
[07:41] <judgen> party!
[07:41] <kaminix|benkyou> ERROR: Input file "01 - Stand by me.flac" is not a supported format <--- Why would oggenc say that about a flac file?
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> kaminix|benkyou check that it actually is a .flac and not currupted.
[07:41] <kaminix|benkyou> Dr_Willis: It played in Amarok
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> file whatever.flac     - could be some version issue?
[07:42] <_Shade_> ...anyone knows?
[07:42] <DaSkreech> kaminix|benkyou: have you read the help file on oggenc ?
[07:42] <jhutchins> kaminix|benkyou: Remember, the file extension doesn't actually mean anything, although some apps may use it in preference to the actual file type.
[07:42] <kaminix|benkyou> Dr_Willis:
[07:42] <kaminix|benkyou> file 01\ -\ Stand\ by\ me.flac
[07:42] <kaminix|benkyou> 01 - Stand by me.flac: Audio file with ID3 version 23.0 tag, MP3 encoding
[07:43] <kaminix|benkyou> But it's not mp3, really.
[07:43] <jhutchins> kaminix|benkyou: rename it as .mp3 and see what it does.
[07:43] <jhutchins> kaminix|benkyou: Just for fun.
[07:43] <DaSkreech> _Shade_: have you googled for the modem name?
[07:43] <_Shade_> DaSkreech: i have no idea what should i look for
[07:43] <kaminix|benkyou> jhutchins: ERROR: Input file "01 - Stand by me.mp3" is not a supported format
[07:44] <esreveRPsycholog> ok
[07:44] <esreveRPsycholog> i tried it
[07:44] <esreveRPsycholog> and now I'm at 640x480
[07:44] <esreveRPsycholog> and it's telling me my new configuration
[07:44] <esreveRPsycholog> can't be safely tested
[07:44] <kaminix|benkyou> jhutchins: 28M     01 - Stand by me.flac
[07:44] <DaSkreech> _Shade_: (model number of modem) (modem manufacturer) linux
[07:44] <DaSkreech> _Shade_: normally gets you decent results
[07:44] <judgen> please tell me why volume is so low when using kubuntu?
[07:44] <kristjan_> is there an utility for kde that let's me insert various symbols, like degree sign?
[07:45] <DaSkreech> kristjan_: Yes
[07:45] <esreveRPsycholog> by the way
[07:45] <esreveRPsycholog> EP is me
[07:45] <_Shade_> DaSkreech: i just found something and i think it should be AnyData.NET ADU-E100D
[07:45] <esreveRPsycholog> it screwed with my name
[07:46] <DaSkreech> esreveRPsycholog: Sorry
[07:46] <esreveRPsycholog> 's all good
[07:46] <esreveRPsycholog> anyway
[07:46] <DaSkreech> esreveRPsycholog: I was gonna tell you the easy way is to logout
[07:46] <DaSkreech> but that's sloooooooow :)
[07:47] <esreveRPsycholog> well I logged out and restarted what they were telling me to
[07:47] <esreveRPsycholog> and
[07:47] <kaminix|benkyou> How can I remove the ID3 tags and transfer them to whatever FLAC use?
[07:47] <esreveRPsycholog> it's kinda made things worse
[07:47] <llutz> _Shade_: http://jk.ufisa.uninett.no/anydata/
[07:47] <esreveRPsycholog> it selected the fbdev driver and says it can't be safely tested
[07:51] <bigleon1> anybody fimilar with running kubuntu on Dual Core Laptops??? starting with 6.06?
[07:51] <bigleon1> I've been getting a slew of errors attempting to upgrade it.
[07:51] <kristjan_> DaSkreech: and the name of that applet is?
[07:51] <esreveRPsycholog> >_>
[07:51] <kristjan_> bigleon1: generally newest release is most compatible with newest hardware
[07:52] <DaSkreech> bigleon1: what are you upgrading to?
[07:52] <bigleon1> i'm working my way up to newest release starting from 6.06 to 6.10 and eventually fiesty.
[07:52] <DaSkreech> bigleon1: ok
[07:52] <bigleon1> i'm very worried (just rebooted) that my 6.06 to 6.10 update didn't work.
[07:52] <esreveRPsycholog> honestly, I'm about fine with one screen at this point, I just wanna go back to 1600x1200
[07:52] <esreveRPsycholog> 640x480 really sucks
[07:53] <bigleon1> It's currently stuck at the Kubuntu with the blue bar right under it
[07:53] <kristjan_> esreveRPsycholog: nvidia card?
[07:53] <DaSkreech> esreveRPsycholog: What videocard? ATI?
[07:53] <kristjan_> :-)
[07:53] <esreveRPsycholog> ATI Radeon X1900
[07:53] <esreveRPsycholog> it selected the fbdev driver
[07:53] <DaSkreech> !ati | esreveRPsycholog
[07:53] <ubotu> esreveRPsycholog: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:54] <DaSkreech> kristjan_: I don't actually know :-)
[07:54] <bigleon1> If it makes any differnece this computer here is my other Kubuntu comp thats already upgrated to 7.04 (it's my desktop)
[07:54] <DaSkreech> kristjan_: kcharselect ?
[07:54] <kaminix|benkyou> Okay, how do I write tags for FLAC? Vorbis comments?
[07:54] <kristjan_> bigleon1: dl gutsy! and see if livecd works
[07:55] <bigleon1> gutsy? whats that?
[07:55] <emilsedgh> !gutsy | bigleon1
[07:55] <ubotu> bigleon1: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[07:55] <kristjan_> bigleon1: imo screw upgrades, backup your files and do clean install
[07:55] <bigleon1> Hmm sure... should be intresting and i can just burn that to a CD-R
[07:56] <paox> asd
[07:57] <kristjan_> DaSkreech: kcharselect is what I'm lookin for; now if I could find a way to configure it :-/
[07:57] <DaSkreech> :-)
[07:57] <bigleon1> Woohoo, killed my laptop with Updates... yeah i'm downloading gutsy.
[07:57] <DaSkreech> bigleon1: how dead?
[07:58] <bigleon1> It loads everything, and then stops
[07:58] <bigleon1> but it is so nice to if i turned it off it would unload everything.
[07:59] <kaminix|benkyou> Is there any reason to keep md5sums of my flac files when there is flac -t?
[07:59] <judgen> hmm i suppose i will have to give up and install freeBSD again...
[08:00] <bigleon1> is there any known issues with dual cores and kubuntu
[08:00] <manne> asd
[08:00] <ch40s> intel dual core big?
[08:00] <bigleon1> Yeah
[08:00] <judgen> bigleon1:  no
[08:00] <ch40s> nope
[08:00] <ch40s> i run one
[08:00] <ch40s> 6300
[08:01] <judgen> bigleon1: the linux kernel runs on more cpu than ANY other software in the world
[08:01] <bigleon1> well i just updated from 6.06 to 6.10 and my insprion is officaly giving me the big FU
[08:01] <DaSkreech> judgen: What's up?
[08:01] <DaSkreech> judgen: that can't be true! Linux has no hardware support!! *gasp*
[08:01] <bigleon1> oh is that gibsy run kde enviroment, because i'm not a big fan of gnome.
[08:01] <ch40s> i doubt its related to ur cpu
[08:01] <DaSkreech> bigleon1: grab a nightly
[08:02] <judgen> DaSkreech: I cant get my sound chipset working decently =(
[08:02] <bigleon1> a nightly?
[08:02] <DaSkreech> !sound | judgen
[08:02] <ubotu> judgen: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[08:02] <DaSkreech> bigleon1: hold on met me get you a link
[08:02] <judgen> !sound
[08:02] <atypic> or not. ARTS has a few quirks. I find it better to turn off the whole sound system.
[08:03] <judgen> DaSkreech: it works but the volume is extremly low.
[08:03] <DaSkreech> judgen: Want the links in a more permanent place?
[08:03] <DaSkreech> !sound > judgen
[08:03] <DaSkreech> bigleon1: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20070911/
[08:03] <bigleon1> your link told me unknown host
[08:04] <DaSkreech> it lies liiieesss!!!!!!
[08:04] <bigleon1> Lol
[08:04] <DaSkreech> it can't find ubuntu.com ?
[08:04] <ScorpKing> bigleon1: copy and paste the link into your browser. links do that to me.
[08:04] <bigleon1> well i don't think it can find cdimage.ubuntu.com
[08:05] <bigleon1> i'm trying that it's still "looking"
[08:05] <manne> Can someone help me with installing ati drivers?
[08:05] <DaSkreech> !ati | manne
[08:05] <jussi01> !ati | manne
[08:05] <jussi01> gah
[08:05] <DaSkreech> I win
[08:06] <manne> help me.
[08:06] <manne> What shall i do?
[08:06] <ScorpKing> lol
[08:06] <ubotu> manne: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:06] <bigleon1> spam her with help!!!
[08:06] <manne> help!!!
[08:06] <manne> help!!!
[08:06] <manne> help!!!
[08:06] <manne> help!!!
[08:06] <manne> thx
[08:06] <crafty_> craftycorner I'm back, my machine had a snit
[08:06] <manne> ^
[08:06] <judgen> DaSkreech: got any usefil suggestions?'
[08:06] <jussi01> !enter | manne
[08:06] <ubotu> manne: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:06] <DaSkreech> !paitence | manne
[08:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paitence - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:06] <arash> !spam | manne
[08:06] <ubotu> manne: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[08:06] <DaSkreech> judgen: check the alsamix
[08:06] <manne> !sorry.
[08:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sorry. - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:06] <jussi01> lol
[08:06] <crafty_> linux can be a pill for a newbie
[08:06] <DaSkreech> Man that bot is harsh :)
[08:07] <bigleon1> I need a special thing on my laptop that i could install that would be like "You broke me again" everytime i get a boot error just for giggles
[08:07] <DaSkreech> crafty_: anything computer related is a pill for a newbie
[08:07] <crafty_> :D
[08:07] <DaSkreech> bigleon1: use the source luke
[08:07] <bigleon1> My computer still says "Kubuntu" stuck at end of load mocking me T_T
[08:07] <genii> bigleon1: Or 2001 theme of HAL saying "What are you doing Dave?"
[08:07] <bigleon1> Lmao!!!
[08:07] <judgen> DaSkreech: where do i find an gui for alsamix?
[08:08] <DaSkreech> judgen: why do you need a Gui?
[08:08] <arash> judgen, on Ubuntu ;) ?
[08:08] <Dr_Willis> !find alsamix
[08:08] <ubotu> Found: alsamixergui, gnome-alsamixer
[08:08] <DaSkreech> judgen: middle click the speaker in the systray
[08:08] <bigleon1> Once I get my computer set up i'm gonna look for a screenshot of BSD, and use it as my screensaver.
[08:08] <judgen> DaSkreech: ive tried kmix
[08:09] <DaSkreech> bigleon1: can you press alt+ctrl+F1 ?
[08:09] <hermit> !TV
[08:09] <ubotu> http://www.linuxtv.org/ has extensive information about using TV cards under Linux. Available viewers for analog cards: Zapping, tvtime (GTK/GNOME), kdetv (KDE), xawtv, motv. For digital cards: Klear (KDE), dvb-utils. For both analog and digital cards, !MythTV is a powerful framework. Your card may work the !IVTV drivers. See also !TV-Out
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> theres the console based alsa-mixer interface also. :)
[08:09] <bigleon1> affirmative
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> !find alsa
[08:09] <ubotu> Found: alsa-base, alsa-utils, gstreamer0.10-alsa, libesd-alsa0, libpt-plugins-alsa (and 34 others)
[08:09] <bigleon1> logged in too
[08:09] <bigleon1> i guess the GUI Fudged up
[08:10] <DaSkreech> bigleon1: ok well there you go. Did you install a lot of KDE apps yourself?
[08:10] <alyx> ok so anyone know networking in VMware?
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> alyx what part of it? ive gotten it working with little to no work. :)(
[08:10] <bigleon1> nah i installed stock 6.06 and then manually updated to 6.10
[08:10] <bigleon1> brb, i need a bathroom break.
[08:10] <alyx> using NAT i get "limited or no connectivity"
[08:10] <DaSkreech> alyx: not me. Though I'm going to have to learn this week
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> alyx using the NAT setting for the vmware machine?
[08:11] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.  I just use the defaults.. heh..  not messed with any of the other settings actually.
[08:11] <alyx> yup Dr i configured it in the config.pl and in the gui
[08:11] <judgen> !bsd
[08:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bsd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:11] <DaSkreech> judgen: did you read sound troubleshooting?
[08:11] <judgen> im getting sad..
[08:11] <judgen> yes i did
[08:12] <alyx> and the only way i get it to work is if i use the wired connection with a bridge
[08:12] <judgen> DaSkreech: i have ALL sliders set to max, and such i can barely hear the sound in my speakers or headphones
[08:12] <arash> Hi, I have some problems with sound  output , someone gave me an answer (Ubuntu forums) but I didn't understand, It's about switching actibe soudnd output (please read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3340848#post3340848 if you feel to help me :))
[08:12] <alyx> as soon as i try to use a bridged wireless i get a config error
[08:12] <arash> judgen , im no expert, but do you have option to enable bass boost?
[08:12] <judgen> DaSkreech: and i have tried using OSS and ALSA there is no dofference
[08:13] <DaSkreech> judgen: can you ask in #alsa ?
[08:13] <judgen> DaSkreech: i dont thin this is an alsa issue, as BSD uses ALSA too?
[08:14] <DaSkreech> judgen: yes but it may very easily be configured differently
[08:14] <bigleon1> alright i'm back
[08:14] <DaSkreech> we are all compiled equal but some were comiled more equal than others
[08:14] <DaSkreech> compiled
[08:15] <alyx> n
[08:15] <bigleon1> Skreech you asked me if i had installed alot of apps manually i haven't added any yet, but i did to 6.10 update manual way.
[08:15] <DaSkreech> bigleon1: argh :)
[08:16] <DaSkreech> bigleon1: You should just remove X then update
[08:16] <drewcipher_> alyx:  when I switch from using NAT on my wired ethernet to my wireless ethernet I have to rerun the vmware-config.pl
[08:16] <DaSkreech> it's looooooads faster and prevents stupid errors .... from X
[08:16] <alyx> drewcipher: im only using my wireless
[08:17] <alyx> drewcipher: when you run your config.pl what vmnet are you configuring 0-99?
[08:17] <DevideZero> i have installed nvidia on kubuntu ( generic-16 ) and when i boot i get black screen someone know what i can do ?
[08:18] <bigleon1> i'm going to need a "remove x update how to for linux challanged peoples" Skreech
[08:18] <judgen> haha im amazed by the ignorance of chris perelli
[08:18] <drewcipher_> alyx:  I configure the vmnet0 bridged to whatever NIC i'm using at the time.  So, if wired it is eth0 and wireless eth3
[08:18] <judgen> im just hoping the transgaming team will work out a way to run gothic
[08:19] <DaSkreech> bigleon1: well if you have adept just remove xserver-xorg
[08:19] <alyx> ok so i need to configure a bridge and an NAT
[08:19] <DaSkreech> bigleon1: it will auto remove everything else
[08:19] <bigleon1> uhh i don't know how to do that via conscle
[08:19] <bigleon1> sudo apt-get is one command i know XD
[08:19] <Dr_Willis> apt
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> !apt
[08:20] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[08:20] <drewcipher_> alyx:  I was worried when I removed the "vmnet0 is bridged to eth0" and then remapped it to "vmnet0 is bridged to eth3" that I would break something but so far so good.
[08:20] <DaSkreech> bigleon1: sudo aptitude remove xserver-xorg I think
[08:20] <crafty_> Dr_Willis, i wanted to thank you 4 u help.  I had a crash
[08:21] <crafty_> but the USB driv's running fine
[08:21] <crafty_> ditched the onboard windows shit
[08:21] <alyx> drewcipher: so you have whatever connection bridged and a NAT set?
[08:21] <Dr_Willis> upgrade with extreme prejudice. :)
[08:22] <crafty_> xactly.  besides, you don't know who's spying on u in windows
[08:22] <alyx> ok so here is what im trying
[08:22] <drewcipher_> alyx:  I'm not sure about "NAT set".  I'll rerun the vmware-config.pl now and check.
[08:22] <alyx> k
[08:22] <crafty_> anything google treat w extreme caution...
[08:23] <alyx> when i set my bridge to my wireless vm wont load at all
[08:23] <judgen> gaah. HOW to use decent sound volumes on a realtech or a VIA chipset is beyond me. I guess i will have to reboot to BeOS to listen to music, =(
[08:23] <crafty_> ttyl
[08:24] <bigleon1> DaSkreech thats not very reassurring but i'll try
[08:24] <alyx> ok i cannot use the wireless when i try to bridge to ath0 (wireless card) i get that vm is improperly configured re run config.pl
[08:24] <DaSkreech> judgen: Sweet. have you seen haiku?
[08:24] <DaSkreech> bigleon1: oh you may want to install irssi
[08:24] <DaSkreech> bigleon1: oh wait you aren't ircing on that machine
[08:25] <bigleon1> i got my kubuntu 7.4 fiesty desktop and my dying laptop0
[08:25] <bigleon1> can i put live cd on a dvd?
[08:25] <bigleon1> i'm going through my cd-rw's and they aren't best of quality lmao
[08:25] <drewcipher_> alyx:  here is the only part I usually need to tweak to switch to wifi.   Maybe I've just been lucky:   http://pastebin.ca/692363
[08:26] <DaSkreech> bigleon1: :-)
[08:27] <alyx> thanks
[08:27] <alyx> ill check it out
[08:27] <bigleon1> DaSkreech I found one the mysterygunk of the year
[08:27] <bigleon1> found one with the*
[08:27] <arash> When is 7.10 release date?
[08:28] <bigleon1> October Arash
[08:28] <spiroo> 18 ocober probably
[08:28] <arash> ok thanks :
[08:28] <arash> :)*
[08:29] <JuJuBee> What command should I use to check a drive in linux?
[08:29] <bigleon1> Is it normal for my Cd drives to refuse to open on my linux machine?
[08:30] <stdin> !fsck | JuJuBee
[08:30] <ubotu> JuJuBee: fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> bigleon1  you mean with the button? if they are being accessed they will be 'locked'
[08:30] <bigleon1> they are empty Dr_willis
[08:30] <bigleon1> no lighting either
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> bigleon1 try the eject command.
[08:30] <difouriane> hello everybody i need a help plz
[08:30] <JuJuBee> So sudo fsck /dev/sda should work?
[08:31] <difouriane> i've just install ubuntu , it's my first time using linux ,but i can't see my partitions $
[08:31] <difouriane> how can i find them
[08:31] <stdin> JuJuBee: no, the drive needs to be unmounted
[08:31] <bigleon1> Whats the "eject command"
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> bigleon1 'eject' :) from a terminal.
[08:32] <alyx> drewcipher mine should be pretty similar but my wireless card is a pcimcia orinico and its ath0 and vmware doesnt lke that for what ever reaso
[08:32] <alyx> *reason
[08:32] <JuJuBee> stdin : I booted from live cd.  Don't think it is mounted at the moment.
[08:32] <bigleon1> DrSkreech Uninstalling X--server did not fix the laptop
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> difouriane you mean the installer cant see the hard drive?
[08:32] <emilsedgh> difouriane: Kubuntu or Ubuntu? they are different :)
[08:33] <difouriane> i install the system ; but now i don't know where to find my partiotions
[08:33] <stdin> JuJuBee: ah, then sudo fsck /dev/sda1 or something, you need to give the partition, not just the drive
[08:33] <difouriane> kubuntu
[08:33] <spiroo__> !aptfix
[08:33] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[08:33] <emilsedgh> difouriane: go to /media :)
[08:33] <Dr_Willis> difouriane you need to be more clear. :) you got kubuntu isntalled. and want to see what? The WINDOWS partitions?
[08:33] <stdin> !partitions
[08:33] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[08:33] <difouriane> yes dr wills
[08:33] <Dr_Willis> i like media:/ in konqueror.
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> assuming they are mounted.
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> it shows mine.
[08:34] <JuJuBee> Ok.  I want to clone a HD (similar to using ghost), but dd is very slow.  Any other suggestions?
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> or /media/ in konqueror - similer. yet a little different for similer thing.
[08:34] <JuJuBee> I figured I should to fsck first.
[08:34] <difouriane> i should write this in konquerror /media/ to see my partitions
[08:35] <Dr_Willis> JuJuBee  theres other backup tools out for linux. I read about a few the other day.. One was on a gparted-livecd even. backupzilla?
[08:35] <difouriane> i find only cdrom0 and cdrom1
[08:35] <JuJuBee> K, I'll look.  Thanks Dr_Willis
[08:36] <difouriane> dr Willis i got only cdrom0 and cdrom1 in /media/
[08:37] <bigleon1> Sorry those who i was talking to i had a bit of an internet refused to work
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> try media:/ yet?
[08:37] <difouriane> like that /media/
[08:37] <emilsedgh> !repeat | difouriane
[08:37] <ubotu> difouriane: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:38] <emilsedgh> difouriane: go to systemSettings->Advanced->Disks & Filesystem
[08:38] <alyx> ok f it im trying a different approach
[08:38] <Dr_Willis> Look at what i am typing... in the konqueror address bar use media:/  (or was it media://) i got it on a bookmark. :) heh..
[08:38] <Dr_Willis> Its possle the isntaller dident set up any fstab entry for the windows drives.
[08:38] <alyx> when ever i try to configure the config.pl to ath0 (my wireless card) it tells me to re run config .pl any ideas?
[08:38] <Dr_Willis> 'how linux mounts/accesses hard drives' :) should be in a top 10 list of things for people to learn about..
[08:39] <JuJuBee> Dr_Willis : looks like gparted-clonezilla live cd is the one.  Thanks
[08:39] <difouriane> how to mount my partitions
[08:39] <Dr_Willis> I use the fuse tools
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs-config
[08:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs-config - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> Hmm
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> !fuse
[08:40] <ubotu> FUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) is a !kernel driver that allows non-root users to create their own filesystems. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE.  Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here:  http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs
[08:40] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> Thers a dozen ways to configure the stuff.. depending on what you want to do.
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> !info ntfs-config
[08:40] <ubotu> ntfs-config: Enable/disable write support for any NTFS devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.5-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 41 kB, installed size 432 kB
[08:40] <cody> What linux distro is best for eyecandy?
[08:41] <cody> and stability
[08:41] <DaSkreech> deliOS
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> Eye Candy causes Ocular Cavaties.
[08:41] <nosrednaekim> cody: (k)ubuntu
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> asking both is like asking for a "Diet Cola that Tastes Good" :)
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> and is Healty for you.
[08:41] <cody> im using that now and it has crashed 3 times in less than 2 weeks
[08:42] <cody> causing me lots of grief -_-
[08:42] <cody> whats second to kbuntu
[08:42] <poison--> ubuntu
[08:42] <poison--> :D
[08:42] <thedman> cody: I've had good success with pclos for a desktop.
[08:42] <cody> -_-
[08:42] <Dr_Willis> xubuntu. :)
[08:42] <poison--> than edubuntu
[08:42] <poison--> lol
[08:42] <Dr_Willis> mythubuntu :)
[08:42] <cody> ouside of the buntu family XD
[08:42] <poison--> roftll
[08:42] <difouriane> the ntfs-config doesn't exist
[08:42] <Dr_Willis> difouriane install it.
[08:42] <bigleon1> testing ...
[08:42] <poison--> cody, try mint linux
[08:43] <bigleon1> anybody hear me, kubuntu gone crazy on me
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> Using Mint Linux at the moment also. :)
[08:43] <JuJuBee> Anybody ever hear of a Dell optiplex gx620 not shutting down or rebooting correctly?  I just did a fresh install and most of the time a reboot does not work, it hangs and I need to power off.
[08:43] <poison--> bigleon1, sup
[08:43] <poison--> jujubee, is acpi enable
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> JuJuBee seen that on a lot of machines befor. apci/mb/bios quirks normally.
[08:43] <JuJuBee> poison-- not sure.  Bios enabled?
[08:44] <poison--> u  might wanna add to grub: acpi=off apm=on
[08:44] <poison--> if your bios lets u disable, better
[08:44] <ScorpKing> cody: go look on distrowatch :)
[08:44] <poison--> u can always edit grub menu.lst and add those i told before
[08:45] <Dr_Willis> yep. make a sample test entry. :) then if needed make those options the defaults
[08:45] <poison--> cody, i forgot, mint is ubuntu based too
[08:45] <poison--> lmao
[08:45] <cody> whats so dif between mint and kbuntu?
[08:45] <Dr_Willis> poison-- yes it is. :)
[08:45] <Dr_Willis> cody incliuded codecs, and a few other tweaks.
[08:45] <poison--> nice looks too
[08:45] <cody> cool
[08:45] <Dr_Willis> and a few other packages/tools
[08:45] <JuJuBee> Where would I find the settings in the bios?  I don't see them
[08:45] <Dr_Willis> Looks the same as my kubuntu desktop. :) since im using the same home dirs...
[08:45] <Dr_Willis> so same configs/settings.
[08:45] <poison--> jujubee, when booting, press ESC
[08:46] <poison--> to axx menu
[08:46] <JuJuBee> Do you  mean get into bios?
[08:46] <poison--> no
[08:46] <cody> which is better for eyecandt gnome or kde?
[08:46] <poison--> if u can disable in bios, good, disable and try
[08:46] <cody> i jsut want my comp to look nice and run smoothly XD
[08:46] <Dr_Willis> cody  enlightenment. :)
[08:46] <poison--> kde
[08:46] <cody> knuntu hates me
[08:46] <ScorpKing> cody: kde
[08:46] <poison--> :D
[08:47] <cody> how si enlightenment?
[08:47] <cody> is
[08:47] <cody> nvm il go to the web
[08:47] <Dr_Willis> goood idea...
[08:47] <nosrednaekim> a GUI is eye candy ;)
[08:47] <Dr_Willis> Theres a Mint-Enlightnment variant. :)
[08:47] <bigleon_> Testing kubuntu is currently hating on me
[08:47] <nosrednaekim> right intellikey?
[08:47] <Dr_Willis> and a Mint-Kde variant
[08:47] <JuJuBee> poison-- : do not see it in the bios.  Is it under power?
[08:47] <bigleon_> i'm having serious lag issues and i don't know why.
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> bigleon_ shake the network cable some - ya got stray bits stuckin it.
[08:48] <poison--> jujubee, should be
[08:48] <drewcipher_> alyx:  was away.  I think I have a pcmcia Ornoco card... going on a hunt...
[08:48] <nosrednaekim> !pate
[08:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pate - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:48] <nosrednaekim> !paste
[08:48] <alyx> ok
[08:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:48] <thedman> cody: try pclinuxos2007
[08:49] <difouriane> salut
[08:49] <JuJuBee> Dont see it anywhere under power.
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> I HATED pcLinuxOS
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> :)
[08:49] <poison--> ok jujubee, lets do it the hard way than
[08:49] <bigleon_> Dr_Willis, well it only seems Konversation was doing it, but it seems to fixxed it self.
[08:49] <bigleon_> Maybe...
[08:49] <poison--> reboot and before it loads X, press ESC
[08:49] <thedman> I prefer kubuntu but pclinuxos just works for almost everything out of the box.
[08:50] <Dr_Willis> thedman it did not like my machines.. for some odd reason.
[08:50] <bigleon_> I don't think i'm lagging although bottem right says 96 s lag
[08:50] <difouriane> ooooooooooooooof how can i do for my partitions
[08:50] <Dr_Willis> thedman this was a  few months back however. :)
[08:50] <bigleon_> wait okay i think i'm fine now. i just started yelling at my computer how it was an idiot. :D it seems when in doubt it always works.
[08:50] <cody> can someone point me to the enlightenment mint distro
[08:50] <Dr_Willis> cody they got mention of it on the mint linux web site.
[08:51] <cody> k
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> not sure its been released yet however.
[08:51] <JuJuBee> poison-- hang on need to reboot...
[08:51] <cody> not in the download list
[08:52] <bigleon_> Is there a download manager thats built into kubuntu so I can download and be able to reconnect cause i think my nets gone wacky
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> Its one of the works in progress. Maybe some mention of it on the forums/wiki/beta releases
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> bigleon_ wget is handy
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> http://www.linuxmint.com/wiki/index.php/Install_Enlightenment_E17_desktop_on_Mint
[08:53] <nosrednaekim> bigleon_: I wrote a little python script to do that......you interested
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> of course one could add the mint repos to a ubuntu box and install Enlightment that way also. :)
[08:53] <bigleon_> I think it is my College network going lame on me
[08:53] <ScorpKing> uhm.. what's the program in KDE to connect to VNC connections again?
[08:53] <nosrednaekim> KVRC?
[08:54] <nosrednaekim> I think.
[08:54] <cody> thanks
[08:54] <ScorpKing> ok
[08:54] <paolo__> krdc, maybe
[08:54] <JuJuBee> poison-- not successful?  X loaded
[08:54] <bigleon_> I'll take first handy dandy dl link :D
[08:54] <cody> IS mint novice friendly?
[08:54] <kristjan_> bigleon_: for kde where is kget
[08:54] <nosrednaekim> cody: yeah
[08:54] <cody> Thanks
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> cody yes.. and thats also vague. :)
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> ya got your 'mom and dad' friendly.. then a 'person wanting to LEARN linux' friendly. :0
[08:55] <drewcipher_> alyx:  my oronoco gold card shows up as eth4.  when I re-run vmware-config.pl it allows me to set "vmnet0 is bridged to eth4" and appears to be happy.
[08:55] <poison--> jujubee, reboot again and start pressing ESC like crazy
[08:55] <poison--> should work now
[08:55] <cody> It has no mention of what Mint version their using
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> poison-- or have him edit the menu.lst and SHOW THE MENUS by default. :)
[08:55] <poison--> true
[08:55] <alyx> not sure why mine always shows as ath0 dewcipher
[08:55] <JuJuBee> Do you want the grub menu?
[08:55] <paolo__> i need help about connecting my mobile phone to the system
[08:55] <poison--> jujubee, yeah, u should edit it
[08:56] <JuJuBee> Oh, I can get that...
[08:56] <JuJuBee> brb
[08:56] <poison--> just try and add: acpi=off apm=on
[08:56] <bigleon_> Alright well i'm tring to get live cd for the beta gusty or w/e and i useing my Firefox and dl froze on me
[08:57] <JuJuBee> for kernel or initrd?
[08:57] <cody> Dr_Willis: They have no mention of which distro of mint i should use
[08:57] <YazzY> hi there chaps
[08:57] <nosrednaekim> hey
[08:57] <YazzY> what comes after feisty  ?
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> cody flip a coin. It dosent matter.
[08:58] <nosrednaekim> gutsy
[08:58] <nosrednaekim> !gutsy
[08:58] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> or shouldent matter. :)
[08:58] <YazzY> nosrednaekim: you think gutsy woudl be stable enough to run on a desktop ?
[08:58] <cody> Great Xd
[08:58] <alyx> drewcipher: i get that its not configured correctly for my machine when i try to use ath0 i dont know anymore
[08:58] <bigleon_> << trying to get gutsy but the world hates him, specially the College network
[08:58] <YazzY> or to be ran on a desktop
[08:58] <cody> watch me download and install then i die XD
[08:58] <paolo__> i connect my mobile trough a BT dongle. what is the name of the device?
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. How is the UUID for a drive calculated anyway?  This site implies if you resize a hard drive. its UUID changes?
[08:59] <nosrednaekim> YazzY: probably not if you aren't interesting in doing bug reports and being unstable at times.
[08:59] <cody> hmmm gnome or kde for 3.0
[08:59] <JuJuBee> poison-- add those for kernel or initrd
[08:59] <poison--> jujubee
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> cody when in doubt go with the normal common gnome desktop version.
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> i always install the other desktops later.
[08:59] <poison--> root=UUID=796b3466-bc5e-4f51-9ec6-7c111f919d5e ro vga=791 quiet splash
[08:59] <drewcipher_> alyx:  when I do an lspcmcia I get this:   Socket 0 Device 0:      [orinoco_cs]             (bus ID: 0.0)
[08:59] <poison--> try: root=UUID=796b3466-bc5e-4f51-9ec6-7c111f919d5e ro acpi=off apm=on quiet splash
[08:59] <JuJuBee> K
[09:00] <YazzY> nosrednaekim: i need some newer software that is not avaliable for feisty and i was wondering whether i could give gutsy a shot but not crash and burn trying
[09:00] <drewcipher_> alyx:  not sure that helps at all but my system does *think* it is orinoco.
[09:00] <cody> Dr_Willis: I was more refering to the ammount of dependancies that i will have to be confused about after i install because im using wirless linksys most linux distros hate me
[09:00] <alyx> but here is an odd one drewcipher, i have two wireless cards ath0 (orinoco pcimcia) and my eth1 (brodcom internal) im not using the brodcom because its driver support just is non existent with the brodconm disabled i wonder if i can turn on the brodcom and get it to work...
[09:00] <nosrednaekim> YazzY: what software?
[09:01] <poison--> cody, u should consider MAC OS :D
[09:01] <YazzY> nosrednaekim: i.e eclipse
[09:01] <cody> poison--: -_- i hate macs
[09:01] <nosrednaekim> you can probably get a recent version of that somewhere on the web
[09:01] <alyx> nope it auto disables
[09:01] <YazzY> nosrednaekim: i have it installed as a binary i downloaded from eclipse.org but you know, i would like to have it avaliable in dpkg repo
[09:02] <drewcipher_> alyx:  I use my broadcom.  I was lucky and it worked out of the box.   Broadcom NexXtreme BCM5752
[09:02] <YazzY> nosrednaekim: i know linux failry well,i am developing embedded apliances based on linux, i just dont want to spend days on fixing bugs
[09:02] <nosrednaekim> YazzY: ah.. right... well go ahead if you WANT to.. but its not stable.
[09:02] <ScorpKing> if i have a vnc server running on xp but the firewall only have port 22 open on the router to a linux server on the internal network, is there a way i can connect to it?
[09:02] <nosrednaekim> YazzY: you won't be fixing bugs... just reporting them..
[09:03] <nosrednaekim> and have your computer broken until they get fixed by someone else
[09:03] <YazzY> nosrednaekim: sometimes i need to fix stuff manually as well
[09:03] <YazzY> nosrednaekim: right :)
[09:03] <bigleon_> How do i open up the kubuntu kget?
[09:03] <alyx> yeah mines a bcmw54 i think or something like that
[09:03] <nosrednaekim> bigleon_: you have to install it.
[09:03] <alyx> i just bought the orinoco because it works out of the box with no issues
[09:04] <bigleon_> there a sudo command for me to auto install it?
[09:04] <YazzY> if it breaks i will just go for desktopbsd or pcbsd
[09:04] <cody> I know linux hates radeon but ae there drivers for a "Radeon x1050"
[09:04] <Dr_Willis> !find kget
[09:04] <ubotu> Found: kget
[09:04] <Dr_Willis> !info kget
[09:04] <ubotu> kget: download manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu9 (feisty), package size 440 kB, installed size 1192 kB
[09:04] <cody> !Radeon
[09:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:04] <ardchoille> kget is quite nice
[09:04] <drewcipher_> alxy: I have the orinoco for the same reason.  kismet works, etc.     No support for it on Vista out of the box for what that's worth.
[09:05] <bigleon_> i checked my adept and it doesn't hjave it
[09:05] <drewcipher_> alyx: I'm not sure anything is wrong with your card.  I just don't have the vmware skillz to help you beyond the vmnet readdressing
[09:05] <JuJuBee> poison-- : sorry, my daughter called to tell me that our cat caught a mouse and is slurping the intestines like spaghetti...  I edited the line and pressed 'b' for boot.
[09:06] <alyx> thats kool im going to figure it out some how lol
[09:06] <YazzY> nosrednaekim: any idea why gutsy-backports/multiverse and universe is not avaliable ?
[09:06] <JuJuBee> If this works, do I manually edit the menu.lst to add those switched?
[09:06] <poison--> jujubee, if my daghter do dat, i will for sure give her beer
[09:06] <nosrednaekim> YazzY: since it is the latest.... there ARE no backports :)
[09:06] <poison--> yes jujubee
[09:06] <JuJuBee> my daughter only 13, and don't like beer, money is better :)
[09:06] <YazzY> so why did i also get Ign http://no.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/main Translation-en_US running apt-get update ?
[09:06] <poison--> well, my daughter has obly two months old.. but
[09:07] <YazzY> nosrednaekim: ^^
[09:07] <poison--> her pappa luvs beer
[09:07] <poison--> :D
[09:07] <JuJuBee> Yea, the younger ones like it more...
[09:07] <JuJuBee> No joy!
[09:07] <JuJuBee> Pressed reboot, screen is off, cpu still on.
[09:08] <poison--> hummm
[09:08] <poison--> wtf
[09:08] <poison--> !boot
[09:08] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[09:08] <poison--> try those :D
[09:10] <JuJuBee> What is acpi?
[09:11] <JuJuBee> This computer is only 1year old.
[09:11] <alyx> ok how do i figure out what "linux headers" i need to install?
[09:11] <alyx> or what are already installed?
[09:12] <JuJuBee> I will try noacpi.
[09:12] <poison--> alyx, generic should do the trick
[09:12] <poison--> jujubee, acpi is energy control
[09:13] <poison--> and a fuckin headache
[09:13] <nosrednaekim> !ohmy
[09:13] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:13] <JuJuBee> I see that.
[09:13] <poison--> sorry
[09:13] <poison--> my bad
[09:15] <bigleon_> When i book up kubuntu I see the blue load bar and then this green dotted line and it just stops (running 6.10)
[09:16] <JuJuBee> Funny thing is that sometimes it reboots or shutdown fine...
[09:17] <poison--> jujubee, dats weird
[09:18] <poison--> bigleon, live cd
[09:19] <paolo__> can someone help me with some about /dev/ ?
[09:19] <JuJuBee> Just did a "Turn Off" and it rebooted.
[09:19] <JuJuBee> OMG
[09:21] <poison--> lol
[09:21] <JuJuBee> NOT funny :(
[09:21] <JuJuBee> ;)
[09:23] <poison--> u should try a clean install :D
[09:23] <poison--> think theres sumtin quite messed up
[09:23] <JuJuBee> This is a clean install, in fact it is the 4th clean install.
[09:24] <poison--> damn..
[09:24] <JuJuBee> iirc, there was some message during boot from cd that flashed across screen about REBOOT disables in hardware?
[09:24] <poison--> dunno
[09:24] <poison--> never had dat issue
[09:24] <bigleon1> Rawr!!! -.- I hating konservation it's going all dorked out on me -.- Anyways, where does one get "kget" i checkd adept manager. Also my other linux machine has gone wacked at kubuntu load screen, finished loading stuff, then this green dotte dline appeared under the blue bar, and it won't do anything now i can't even press Crtl+alt+F1
[09:24] <poison--> tested kubuntu with asus, acer and via laptops.. no issues
[09:27] <nosrednaekim> Via lappys?
[09:27] <nosrednaekim> wow... where did you get one of those?
[09:28] <nosrednaekim> bigleon1: boot into recovery mode..
[09:29] <hermit> !video
[09:29] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[09:29] <bigleon1> okay konversation is really laggy is their an alternative?
[09:30] <emilsedgh> bigleon1: Kopete :)
[09:31] <poison--> nosrednaekim> the company i work imports them and resell
[09:31] <poison--> and asus too
[09:32] <poison--> nice stuff too
[09:32] <poison--> for a cheap LE
[09:33] <acidBURN> ready a article that ubuntu is going to have more goodies, than kubuntu in the next version (Gutsy Gibbon)
[09:33] <nosrednaekim> sweet.
[09:34] <DexterF> hi
[09:34] <nosrednaekim> cheap?
[09:34] <DexterF> got a usb card reader
[09:34] <poison--> yep
[09:34] <deviance> Whats the command to delete the lock on adept again
[09:34] <poison--> 400 USD
[09:34] <DexterF> plug in a CF once, works, umount, replug, works, umount, replug - nothing
[09:34] <DexterF> wth?
[09:35] <nosrednaekim> US>?
[09:35] <poison--> us dolars
[09:35] <poison--> or sumtin like dat
[09:36] <nosrednaekim> !adeptfix
[09:36] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[09:36] <nosrednaekim> poison--: link :)
[09:37] <poison--> www.idot.com.tw
[09:37] <deviance> Thanks
[09:37] <poison--> i resell them here in brazil with kubuntu :D
[09:37] <poison--> 30-50 per week
[09:37] <jhutchins_wk> poison--: $400 US for a flash card reader?
[09:38] <poison--> no ffs.. for a laptop
[09:38] <jhutchins_wk> poison--: Ah - now that's reasonable.
[09:38] <poison--> :D
[09:38] <jhutchins_wk> I know electronics were significantly more expensive in Britain than they are here - like 4x.
[09:39] <nosrednaekim> poison--: ah.... i brazil... I wanted one in the US :)
[09:39] <poison--> think u can buy them there too
[09:39] <poison--> i guess
[09:40] <DevideZero> how i can fix my kubuntu display ? ( have black screen after nvidia driver installion )
[09:40] <nosrednaekim> never seen one.
[09:40] <sayers> whats with the new update? On gutsy the update does not want to work
[09:40] <jhutchins_wk> nosrednaekim: Asus has some pretty cheap ones.
[09:40] <sayers> DevideZero: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as sudo
[09:40] <poison--> x51 is cheap
[09:40] <jhutchins_wk> sayers: Gutsy's still in #ubuntu+1
[09:41] <nosrednaekim> eeepc.... yeah I know... thy look sweet.
[09:41] <DevideZero> sayers , this will fix it or return me to the old driver ?
[09:42] <MG> DevideZero: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, change "nvidia" to "nv", ctrl-alt-Backspace
[09:42] <DevideZero> MG , but i want nvidia driver
[09:43] <MG> nope, no ctrl-alt-Backspace,  init 2
[09:43] <MG> one step at a time
[09:45] <DevideZero> so what todo from them both ? (what sayers gave me or ctrl+alt+backspace ot init 2 ) ?
[09:45] <MG> init 2
[09:45] <DevideZero> ok thanks
[09:47] <ardchoille> If you're changing video drivers all you need to do is edit xorg and then log out and restart xorg from the login screen
[09:48] <MG> what if you x display is borked?
[09:48] <cody> soooo...
[09:48] <MG> your, that is
[09:48] <cody> enlightenment = eyecandy
[09:49] <Dr_Willis> im not  sure the init method works any more.
[09:49] <ardchoille> MG: Can't that be fixed with: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  ?
[09:49] <MG> idunno
[09:49] <ardchoille> I'm pretty sure it can
[09:50] <MG> ok, then i'm pretty sure it can too
[09:53] <paolo__> can someone help me with kitchensync?
[09:53] <jhutchins_wk> Dr_Willis: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart might be sufficient.
[09:53] <Dr_Willis> power down, unplug the pc... bury it in the yard for 3 months.. :)
[09:54] <ardchoille> Dr_Willis: lol
[09:54] <ScorpKing> how can i wget only .jpg in one directory on a server? wget http://server.com/pictures/*.jpg doesn't work
[09:54] <Dr_Willis> ScorpKing because the SHELL is seeing the * wildcard. perhaps.
[09:55] <ScorpKing> any other way?
[09:55] <Dr_Willis>  wget has some very picky options. :) ya may want to read its docs/examples... you might have to quote the arguments..
[09:55] <rrazpo> lu tout le monde =)
[09:55] <Dr_Willis> kget is a front end also to the command
[09:55] <Dr_Willis> Its possible the server wont allow wildcards.
[09:55] <ScorpKing> ok. man wget then... :)
[09:56] <Dr_Willis> theresl also curl and..hmm htttrack? for mirroring web sites
[09:56] <Dr_Willis> i think thats the command.
[09:57] <ScorpKing> i only want the pics in one directory. i'm aware of htttrack but never tried it.
[09:57] <Dr_Willis> wget 'http://whatever/*.jpg' MIGHT work. :)
[09:57] <ScorpKing> nope. i tried
[09:58] <Dr_Willis> wget also has 10000000000000 options. :)
[09:58] <Dr_Willis> well bbl.
[09:58] <ScorpKing> i see. reading man wget.
[09:58] <ardchoille> ScorpKing: Can't you dl that jpeg with firefox?
[09:59] <kkathman> argggh  I have a notification going off and I dont know what it belongs to !!
[09:59] <cody_> Anyone know if there is a working friver for Radeon X1050
[09:59] <cody_> driver*
[09:59] <cody_> iv looked all over
[09:59] <ScorpKing> ardchoille: there is about 20 and i don't feel like clicking.
[10:00] <kkathman> this is driving me crazy - this loud chime dings every so often and I cant tie it to anything Im running
[10:00] <runlevelten> You use wget -A to do that.
[10:00] <ScorpKing> mmm. lets see
[10:00] <cody_> You talking to me?
[10:00] <jussi01> kkathman: its not email arriving?
[10:01] <kkathman> nope thats a nice soft little chime - this one is like loud and obnoxious
[10:01] <ScorpKing> runlevelten: nope. i must be doing something wrong.
[10:01] <kkathman> imagine an old typwriter bell amplified x200
[10:02] <nagyv> hello! could someone help me to figure out why I can not connect to my new laser keyboard? hcitool scan finds it, but hidd --connect always times out.
[10:02] <kkathman> jussi01:  Ive been to the system notifications and theres no sound there associated with anything
[10:02] <ritzcracker> kkathman you sure its not your irc proggie mine used to do that till i disabled it
[10:02] <jussi01> kkathman: its not a kopete or konversation sound?
[10:03] <kkathman> ritzcracker jussi01 well I use kopete yes, but removed the notifications except for when someone messages me.  So I'd see the little bubble with that chime if that were it
[10:03] <kkathman> I use kvirc not konversation
[10:03] <jussi01> kkathman: how about in irc?
[10:03] <lnx_> i have changed the driver to "nv" but i want nvidia , so how i can install nvidia driver right ( without to get black screen after the install ) ?
[10:04] <jussi01> !ati | lnx_
[10:04] <ubotu> lnx_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:04] <ardchoille> lnx_: Did you follow the BinaryDriverHowto?
[10:04] <kkathman> jussi01:  it could be , but Ive failed to notice anything in the irc channels when the chime rings - i.e .highlighted text, etc
[10:04] <runlevelten> unless you're just pointing it to a web page and expecting it to get a file listing from that...
[10:06] <lnx_> kkathman , no , now i will
[10:07] <ScorpKing> runlevelten: wget http://server.bla/pictures/ *.jpg resolve the pictures as url's and then goes to http://thispicturename.jpg/
[10:08] <runlevelten> Won't that just pick up the jpegs in the cwd?
[10:09] <ScorpKing> that's what i thought but it doesn't.
[10:09] <lnx_> the say " if you are using kubuntu follow ubuntu 6.10 , but i find thing like " System menu at the top of the screen." in kubuntu  , there isnt guide just for kubuntu ?
[10:09] <Matyo> Pls click on him afterwards you may quit:
[10:09] <Matyo> http://www.nicefaces.eu/?link=select&id=1896&voks=10
[10:09] <runlevelten> who says if you're using kubuntu follow ubuntu 6.10?
[10:10] <lnx_> runlevelten , "Note: If you are using Kubuntu, please follow the instructions for Ubuntu 6.10"
[10:10] <pramod> Hello friends...
[10:10] <pramod> :D
[10:11] <runlevelten> Where?
[10:11] <runlevelten> Not on the binary driver howto, which is what I thought you were talking about
[10:11] <lnx_> runlevelten , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:11] <lnx_> ooopppppps sorry your right
[10:11] <cezar> hi
[10:12] <ScorpKing> welcome stdin.
[10:12] <cezar> guys, good bye
[10:12] <recon> is there any way to save open pages in konqueror when you close it, like in firefox?
[10:12] <lnx_> someone know what to do ?
[10:13] <runlevelten> Anyway, just sudo apt-get install restricted-manager
[10:14] <YazzY> recon: yes, you can store them as web profile before closing konq
[10:14] <lnx_> i have the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1.run driver i cant just install him ?
[10:15] <runlevelten> You can also save a session at any time by choosing "save tabs as folder" from the bookmarks folder
[10:15] <runlevelten> *bookmarks menu in konqy, even
[10:15] <jhutchins_wk> recon: If you leave them open when you log out, they'll be restored next session, but the only way to save them when closing konq is to bookmark them.
[10:15] <jhutchins_wk> Oh, or what YazzY said.
[10:16] <runlevelten> then you can open your bookmarks menu, right click the folder you saved earlier and select "open in tabs"
[10:16] <runlevelten> to reload the session later
[10:16] <recon> huh. OK.
[10:16] <recon> (although firefox was a little easier...)
[10:17] <runlevelten> (and is now stuffed up because you have to have a shell script to stop it showing a dialog at startup)
[10:17] <recon> runlevelten: i do?
[10:17] <runlevelten> the "restore session/new session" dialog really really sucks.
[10:18] <recon> runlevelten: no, that's usually only when you close it improperly. there's a setting that says "restore tabs and windows on startup".
[10:18] <runlevelten> No. If you shut down the machine normally, firefox thinks it crashed.
[10:18] <recon> runlevelten: ...hitting the big X isn't that much of a deal...
[10:19] <runlevelten> It's a big deal when you're preloading firefox on 300 machines.
[10:20] <runlevelten> Because it doesn't preload. It opens 300 dialogs. With 300 big Xs.
[10:20] <recon> runlevelten: i was talking about the X that closes the window...
[10:21] <runlevelten> Yes, I know...
[10:21] <pramod> i have a program that's not working in linux...
[10:21] <runlevelten> ?
[10:21] <pramod> can anyone help me out please???
[10:21] <runlevelten> pramod: what program?
[10:21] <pramod> jbaci
[10:21] <ScorpKing> !ask
[10:21] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:21] <pramod> u know it?
[10:21] <ScorpKing> no
[10:21] <pramod> hell...
[10:21] <pramod> it's for concurrent programming...
[10:21] <ScorpKing> :)
[10:22] <pramod> :(
[10:22] <runlevelten> !adeptfixz
[10:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adeptfixz - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:22] <runlevelten> !adeptfix
[10:22] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[10:22] <pramod> help me someone who knows how to run jbaci on Linux Kubuntu...
[10:23] <runlevelten> what did you get when you tried to build it?
[10:23] <runlevelten> pramod: ^] 
[10:23] <pramod> yaeh
[10:23] <runlevelten> what did you get when you tried to build it?
[10:23] <pramod> i first unzipped the file...
[10:23] <pramod> unzipped it in a directory...
[10:23] <pramod> it uses Java libraries...
[10:24] <pramod> when i run them via console and execute the jar file... the jbaci window appears.. but i get Error...
[10:25] <pramod> i take a program and compile it it compiles... when i run it... it gives a java application error...
[10:26] <waylandbill> pramod: just because it can compile doesn't mean the code is free from run-time exceptions.
[10:26] <pramod> well
[10:26] <runlevelten> Oh for God's sake it unzips everything into the current directory
[10:26] <pramod> the code runs on other machines... and the code is a C++ code...
[10:26] <pramod> only the interface is done in Java...
[10:27] <runlevelten> I'll be cleaning bits of that up weeks from now :\ right, new folder
[10:27] <pramod> perhaps there is a problem with the Java Library...
[10:27] <waylandbill> pramod: the fact that it runs on other machines doesn't mean it is exception free either. The programmers may have not counted on a condition that may not exist all the time.
[10:28] <pramod> hmm perhaps...
[10:28] <pramod> well got to try it...
[10:28] <pramod> i have taken the windows version of it...
[10:28] <pramod> so friends... u got any interesting programs that can be added on linux kubuntu???
[10:29] <waylandbill> pramod: you probably could contact the software's author and find out more about the error.
[10:29] <pramod> i have just installed the firefox.. and it rocks.. :D
[10:29] <christoffernors> Hey. How can i change the shortcut "Alt+Left and Alt+Right" to another key? (im using gnome ubuntu). Thankyou.
[10:29] <pramod> Well... the executable file is in .jar format
[10:29] <pramod> i.e.multiplatform...
[10:29] <waylandbill> pramod: there's tons of installable apps in the apt repositories.
[10:29] <runlevelten> Hahaha.
[10:30] <runlevelten> Sorry. Jaded programmer.
[10:30] <pramod> apt repositories?
[10:30] <pramod> where's that?
[10:30] <waylandbill> !apt
[10:30] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[10:30] <ScorpKing> lol
[10:30] <stdin> christoffernors: better to ask in #ubuntu then
[10:31] <christoffernors> wierd though.. that this is the default channel?
[10:31] <waylandbill> christoffernors: using which client?
[10:31] <pramod> and a good player fo my mp3 files??
[10:31] <christoffernors> Konversation
[10:31] <stdin> !players | pramod
[10:31] <ubotu> pramod: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[10:31] <waylandbill> christoffernors: yeah. Konversation does default to this channel. :)
[10:31] <pramod> ok thanx
[10:32] <christoffernors> wack
[10:32] <ScorpKing> o :)
[10:32] <stdin> christoffernors: well, it is a KDE app
[10:32] <waylandbill> christoffernors: just change it in the server dialog and the wackness goes away. :)
[10:32] <christoffernors> wierd that its default with ubuntu then?
[10:33] <pramod> well thanx a lot guys...
[10:33] <pramod> God Bless You all..
[10:33] <waylandbill> pramod: amarok is installed by default and works well even with ipods.
[10:33] <pramod> i will be back with new questions
[10:34] <runlevelten> Bye then pramod :)
[10:34] <ardchoille> !tastymenu
[10:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tastymenu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:34] <pramod> well here when i load an mp3 file in amarok it freezes...
[10:35] <pramod> and am using linux feisty fawn...
[10:35] <pramod> the newest one...
[10:35] <pramod> :D
[10:35] <waylandbill> submit a bug report.
[10:35] <pramod> how?
[10:35] <ardchoille> !bug
[10:35] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[10:36] <stdin> pramod: it's already been reported, just install libxine1-ffmpeg and restart amarok
[10:37] <pramod> ok thank you...
[10:37] <waylandbill> that brings up a good point. remember to check if a bug has been reported before submitting a duplicate. :)
[10:39] <ScorpKing> pramod: this might help a little - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/Projects
[10:39] <pramod> ok... thanx a lot brothers.
[10:39] <ariane> hi. a couple of minutes ago, when i logged on my session, kde wasn't able to start kicker and other dashboard apps. i restarted it and all the apps never started this time too...does someone knows how to fix that bug and could explain me how to do so please?
[10:40] <ScorpKing> oops. :)
[10:41] <pramod> yes it works...
[10:41] <pramod> thanx a lot guys...
[10:41] <jhutchins_wk> ariane: First, from console try renaming ~/.kde to clear your personal settings.
[10:41] <jhutchins_wk> ariane: (Then try restarting kde - ctrl-alt-backspace or log in).
[10:42] <ariane> jhutchins_wk: i rebooted...wasn't that supposed to fix the problem !?!
[10:43] <jhutchins_wk> ariane: This is not windows.
[10:43] <jussi01> lol
[10:43] <jhutchins_wk> ariane: Have you been running GUI apps with sudo?
[10:43] <runlevelten> rebooting is great if your problem is that you're not wasting enough time/electricity :)
[10:44] <jussi01> its funny, since restarting x is a trauma for me...
[10:45] <jhutchins_wk> There are things that reboots fix in linux, but that's not the way to bet.
[10:45] <jhutchins_wk> Armed with my trusty live CD's I go forth to rescue data from a damsel's XP box.
[10:45] <jhutchins_wk> l8r
[10:45] <jussi01> rebooting? pah... who does that?
[10:46] <runlevelten> People changing their hardware or their kernel.
[10:46] <bigleon1> Testing 1-2
[10:46] <bigleon1> Is Konversation stil hating on me? I'm having major issues with lag on this thing, and i'm sure it's not my net, but i'm having issues with knetwork manager thing
[10:48] <ScorpKing> bigleon1: set the number of lines konversation remembers lower, maybe that helps
[10:51] <hassane>  /msg [DB-FR] XDCC-ONE_PIECE xdcc send #14
[10:54] <Bigleon12> Hello?
[10:58] <jussi01> 1 minute...
[10:58] <jussi01> thats it?
[10:58] <jussi01> ffs...
[11:05] <ubuntu> Why doesnt KUBUNTU ship with Koffice?
[11:09] <lnx_> i just have installed kubuntu , someone know easy way to install nvidia 5200 fx geforce ? ( exept envy ) ?
[11:10] <hitmanWilly> !nvidia | lnx_
[11:10] <ubotu> lnx_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:10] <bjwebb> why is there no ffmpeg-dev package?
[11:10] <runlevelten> sudo apt-get install restricted-manager, then run restricted-manager.
[11:10] <runlevelten> Done.
[11:11] <runlevelten> right, bed.
[11:11] <lnx_> runlevelten , are you sure ?  ive read that this is not good way ? ( better to install 100.14.11 nvidia driver ) ?
[11:11] <runlevelten> night kubunters :)
[11:12] <hitmanWilly> lnx_, for that card, restricted manager should work fine
[11:12] <lnx_> runlevelten what ?
[11:12] <lnx_> hitmanWilly , but i want to install the nvidia driver this is the same ?
[11:13] <hitmanWilly> lnx_, that app will autodetect and install the correct driver for your card
[11:13] <hitmanWilly> lnx_, if it doesn't work, come back here and I'll help you do a manual install
[11:15] <lnx_> hitmanWilly , so it will install this : "NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1" ? ( i have reinstalled kubuntu 7 times and im tired from this :( i want to do it once and right . . . )
[11:16] <ubuntu> &leave
[11:16] <hitmanWilly> lnx_, you don't want the 100 series drivers...
[11:17] <hitmanWilly> lnx_, not for a 5200
[11:17] <lnx_> hitmanWilly , why not ?
[11:17] <hitmanWilly> lnx_, they don't help any, easier to use the older ones
[11:17] <hitmanWilly> lnx_, ok, let me walk you through installing them by hand
[11:17] <hitmanWilly> lnx_, open up a konsole
[11:17] <lnx_> i just want the best preformance that my card can give
[11:18] <lnx_> ok
[11:18] <hitmanWilly> lnx_, in the konsole: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[11:19] <lnx_> hitmanWilly , i cant do this adept is running updates , i will have to wait them to finish
[11:19] <hitmanWilly> lnx_, ok, wait for that to finish
[11:19] <ScorpKing> lnx_: just to let you know, i have the same card in my other box and it works great.
[11:21] <lnx_> ScorpKing , i know that in ubuntu its worked fine ( just stop gdm , sh the driver , start gdm ) and its ok but kubuntu is not the same
[11:21] <hitmanWilly> lnx_, ok, while adept's doing it's thing, let's back up your current config file
[11:21] <lnx_> xorf.conf ?
[11:21] <hitmanWilly> lnx_, yup
[11:22] <hitmanWilly> lnx_, are you comfortable in a cmd line?
[11:22] <lnx_> ok will make backup in desktop
[11:22] <lnx_> yes ( i think so )
[11:22] <hitmanWilly> lnx_, ok, so you can copy that file back from the desktop in a cmd line?
[11:23] <lnx_> yes
[11:23] <hitmanWilly> lnx_, ok, good
[11:24] <cody> Can anyone help me burn an iso
[11:24] <hitmanWilly> lnx_, you may also want to install irssi in case you run into trouble and need to come back here
[11:24] <ScorpKing> cody: use k3b
[11:25] <hitmanWilly> cody, k3b should set everything up automatically
[11:26] <lnx_> other question : in this update it install 16-generic and i had 15 generic , and now i have to choose when the computer start between them , what to choose ?
[11:26] <Daisuke_Ido> the new one
[11:26] <hitmanWilly> lnx_, choose the newest one unless you run into problems
[11:27] <zblach> hey all. how do I manually unlock kicker?
[11:27] <lnx_> and i need to save all the olds or i can delete them ?
[11:27] <zgmf-x20a> #ktorrent
[11:27] <hitmanWilly> lnx_, i'd reccomend keeping at least one backup one around, in case something screws up
[11:28] <hitmanWilly> lnx_, it's been known to happen
[11:29] <Daisuke_Ido> hitmanWilly: i have several kernels littering my grub, i should probably get rid of a few, eh?
[11:30] <hitmanWilly> Daisuke_Ido, you can if you want, but its really no big deal
[11:30] <hitmanWilly> Daisuke_Ido, unless you're running short on drive space
[11:30] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm always running short on drive space :D
[11:30] <hitmanWilly> lol
[11:30] <Daisuke_Ido> even when i'm ont
[11:31] <Daisuke_Ido> i like to maximize available space for days when i want to download a 30gb torre^H^H^H^H^H copy of the gutenberg project
[11:31] <hitmanWilly> heh, i usually have at least 2-3 kernels lying around, but then again I roll my own
[11:31] <Daisuke_Ido> quickest way just to sudo rm -rf the appropriate directories then grub-update?
[11:32] <Daisuke_Ido> never actually gotten rid of a kernel
[11:32] <Daisuke_Ido> was always too scared to :D
[11:32] <hitmanWilly> Daisuke_Ido, actually, you can pull them through apt
[11:33] <BluesKaj> kernels can't take up really all that much space , seeing that a live cd is barely 700MB
[11:33] <hitmanWilly> yeah, about 30 mb a pop IIRC, at least for a kitchen sink ubuntu one
[11:33] <Daisuke_Ido> actually, i think i'll keep what i have.  i forgot i installed feisty fresh on this one
[11:33] <hitmanWilly> :)
[11:33] <Daisuke_Ido> so i just have 2.6.20-15 and -16
[11:33] <newsense> !firewall
[11:34] <Ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[11:34] <Daisuke_Ido> laptop has several though, being a testing machine for gutsy
[11:35] <Daisuke_Ido> (which i love, by the way
[11:35] <lnx_> hitmanWilly , you really think that 100.14.11 is not the best driver for my card ? sound strange alot of peeople have told my that this is the best nvidia driver
[11:36] <hitmanWilly> lnx_, it is for the new cards, but it doesn't add any functionality for older ones, like a 5200
[11:37] <hitmanWilly> lnx_, anyway, let me know when the updates are finished
[11:38] <lnx_> yea , ok its less than 5 minutes i guess , and i will need to restart my computer after the updates to boot from generic-16
[11:39] <hitmanWilly> lnx_, ok
[11:43] <lnx_> brb
[11:46] <lnx_> im back , the updates have finished
[11:47] <hitmanWilly> lnx_, ok, in a konsole: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[11:48] <lnx_> ready
[11:48] <hitmanWilly> lnx_, done?
[11:49] <lnx_> yes , installed succsessfully
[11:49] <hitmanWilly> lnx_, once that finishes, sudo nvidia-xconfig
[11:49] <sousl> Is there a msn chat program that also supports @yahoo passport id's as a friend than just @hotmail's?
[11:50] <hitmanWilly> sousl, gaim/pidgin/kopete does them all
[11:50] <lnx_> Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf".
[11:50] <lnx_> Backed up file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' as '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'
[11:50] <lnx_> New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[11:50] <laptop> hola
[11:50] <hitmanWilly> lnx_, ok, that's good. now you just need to restart X
[11:51] <lnx_> killall X , then sudo X ?
[11:51] <sousl> hitmanwilly, I have tried adding a friend to my msn buddy list that has a @yahoo id, and it says it's not valid..
[11:52] <hitmanWilly> lnx_, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[11:52] <hitmanWilly> lnx_, that should restart X
[11:52] <BluesKaj> sousl, i think kopete supports yahoo and msn
[11:52] <lnx_> hitmanWilly , in the console or ctrl + alt + f1 ?
[11:52] <hitmanWilly> lnx_, if X fails on restart, try a full reboot, and if that fails, restrore your backed up xorg.conf
[11:53] <hitmanWilly> lnx_, either or
[11:53] <hitmanWilly> lnx_, actually, konsole
[11:53] <ScorpKing> i use kopete for yahoo and it works great.
[11:53] <lnx_> ok iwill right back
[11:54] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm vacationing in a little bubble of nostalgia right now...
[11:55] <hitmanWilly> Daisuke_Ido, ?
[11:56] <Daisuke_Ido> #kubuntu-offtopic
[11:57] <Daisuke_Ido> because it's so very offtopic, but so awesome i have to share it with someone
[12:00] <hitmanWilly> lnx_, any luck?
[12:00] <Rask330> Can anyone help me with a sound problem in a fresh install of kubuntu?  My sound adapter (VIA 8235) is listed in the output of "aplay -l", and seems to be recognized by KDE and everything.  I've turned up all the levels in Kmix... but at the end of it all, I hear nothing.
[12:00] <lnx_> hitmanWilly , i got black screen when i restart kdm and then i did restart to the computer and now its work prefect
[12:00] <lnx_> thanks for the help
[12:00] <hitmanWilly> lnx_, yeah, needed to load the kernel module
[12:01] <hitmanWilly> lnx_, there's a way to do it without a reboot, but that's harder to explain :)
[12:01] <lnx_> i dont need to have any "nvidia xserver settings" shortcut in kmenu ?
[12:02] <hitmanWilly> lnx_, it has some cool settings in there, but no, you don't need it
[12:02] <cody> Hopefully mint will recognize my linksys card
[12:03] <hitmanWilly> cody, if ubuntu does/doesn't, then mint probably will/won't
[12:03] <cody> Someone did it for me ^_^ so i have no clue
[12:03] <bigleon_> Hello?
[12:04] <lnx_> hitmanWilly , how i can see these settings that you talked about ?
[12:05] <bigleon_> Question, Running this Knetwork manager, and it won't use my wireless nic why? Everytime i run it to connect it stalls at 28pct
[12:06] <BluesKaj> !wireless | bigleon_
[12:06] <Ubotu> bigleon_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:07] <Rask330> I found the comprehensive sound guide thing, but it seemed to think that all was well if "aplay -l" listed the sound card.  Nothing I do in Kmix seems to allow me to hear anything. :)
[12:09] <Rask330> Anyone have any suggestions, or should I just stick around and ask again later? ^^;
[12:10] <BluesKaj> Rask330, k-menu/system settings/sound system/enable sound system,then choose hardware tab/select the audio device/Advanced Linux Sound Architecture, click apply
[12:11] <Rask330> Already selected.
[12:12] <lnx_> how i can change things liek resolution or screen refresh rate ?
[12:14] <bigleon_> I swear i'm going to beat my head through my desk... gah idk linux is hating on met today >.<!!!! arg.... none of the help.ubuntu pages will load
[12:14] <ScorpKing> bigleon_: use w3m to browse :)
[12:15] <bigleon_> ScorpKing: What is w3m?
[12:15] <ScorpKing> cli browser
[12:15] <ScorpKing> u can also use linx
[12:16] <Rask330> BluesKaj:  ALSA is already selected as KDE's audio device-- it still produces no sound.
[12:16] <bigleon_> I'm using firefox. idk why it's all whacky typically it behaves the best for me.
[12:16] <BluesKaj> Rask330, in the terminal type ' alsamixer ', make sure the Master, PCM, Line & CD are all unmuted ,byb using the "M" key
[12:16] <ScorpKing> bigleon_: o ya, uhm, i won't advise hitting ur head on the desk, it might hurt a lot. :)
[12:17] <bigleon_> ScorpKing: it would rid fustration kubuntu has been inflicting on me all afternoon. By repleacing it with a different pain.
[12:17] <ScorpKing> lol
[12:17] <bigleon_> First Kubuntu didnt want to work on my laptop
[12:17] <bigleon_> then it did, and updated to 6.10
[12:17] <bigleon_> Now my laptop won't work for me at all (os wise) even recovery on it gone wack.
[12:17] <Rask330> BluesKaj:  Done.  Only Line was muted, of those four... but it still produces nothing.
[12:18] <ScorpKing> bigleon_: don't you have a 7.04 disk?
[12:18] <bigleon_> To top it off, for 1 hour today (before i left for dinner.) Konversation went crazy... and kept dcing from irc channel
[12:18] <bigleon_> It's in the mail
[12:18] <bigleon_> unfortunately thats 4-6 weeks
[12:18] <cody> how do i open an exe in linux
[12:18] <cody> i need the WMP54GS.inf drivers
[12:18] <bigleon_> !wine Cody
[12:18] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wine cody - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:19] <bigleon_> use wine
[12:19] <bigleon_> cody
[12:19] <flavius> all right, newbie here. How do I found out what Ubuntu version I have ? and also..that nickname, dapper, edgy ..what is all that ?
[12:19] <ScorpKing> bigleon_: it does take a while
[12:19] <flavius> *find
[12:20] <bigleon_> ScropKing: that it does, unfornately i got fed up with windows tried to go to Linux because in past it has always been relaible to a point. and... well ... you know lmao
[12:20] <ScorpKing> bigleon_: why don't you just stick to 6.10 for now? at least you'll be able to use ur laptop till u get the cd.
[12:21] <bigleon_> well cause 6.10 is what crashed on my laptop the disks i got is dapper
[12:21] <Tm_T> !version | flavius
[12:21] <Ubotu> flavius: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[12:21] <bigleon_> my desktop semi sucesfully updated to 7.04
[12:21] <ScorpKing> mmm. i see why ur frustrated.
[12:22] <bigleon_> i had to go eat some egg rolls to calm down...
[12:22] <BluesKaj> Rask330, , do you have an IEC958 AC'97 ctrl in kmix output ..if so make sure it's turned om, as well as the output and switches tabs
[12:22] <BluesKaj> om = on
[12:22] <flavius> thank u ! codename feisty running here :)
[12:22] <bigleon_> NOt typicaqlly an angry person yet computers always seem to get me...
[12:23] <flavius> sorry folks, just too excited. 6 hours on Linux so far and i can say i am not going back to windows
[12:23] <bigleon_> I got my caffine scorpking on my 4th 2lieter today of moutain dew
[12:23] <rdvon> I need to know how to make my separate linux hard drive available in windows so I can move around a few files... is this possible?
[12:23] <vip3rousmango> Hey, I'm having issues connecting my Sony Cybershot via USB. Kubuntu won't read/or even acknowlage that something was plugged in..
[12:24] <bigleon_> !kget
[12:24] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kget - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:24] <BluesKaj> vip3rousmango, card or dongle ?
[12:24] <bigleon_> isn't kget a dl manager for Kubuntu?
[12:24] <vip3rousmango> BluesKaj: what?
[12:24] <ScorpKing> yes
[12:24] <rdvon> can I use it? :3
[12:25] <ScorpKing> bigleon_: i think it's a frontend for wget.
[12:25] <vip3rousmango> BluesKaj: Im trying to connect the camera itself (with an internal mem of 56mb) via USB, i dont have a duo stick in it yet.
[12:25] <bigleon_> I'm just trying to find a download manager so i can just dl gutsy or w/e and try that on my laptop
[12:25] <Rask330> BluesKaj:  Done, but still nothing.  :(
[12:25] <lnx_> how i can setting my screen resolution ?
[12:26] <ScorpKing> bigleon_: wget will work
[12:26] <BluesKaj> Rask330, turn your media off and back on again
[12:26] <bigleon_> can i get that off a sudo command? or do i gotta get it off the net
[12:26] <Rask330> BluesKaj:  My media?
[12:26] <bigleon_> sudo apt-get wget
[12:26] <BluesKaj> media player that is
[12:26] <bigleon_> sudo apt-get install wget **
[12:27] <Rask330> BluesKaj:  I'm just pushing the "test sound" button in the system settings panel.
[12:27] <ScorpKing> bigleon_: gimme a sec. i'll find a link for you. - i think it's installed by default.
[12:27] <BluesKaj> Rask330, also in kmix make sure the mix light is on in the switch tab
[12:28] <bigleon_> hmm it's already installed, so how do i open it up?
[12:28] <Rask330> BluesKaj:  It is on.
[12:28] <ScorpKing> bigleon_: i'll give u something just now that you can type. my laptop is slow. :(
[12:28] <BluesKaj> well Rask330 , that's about all i can do , short of a relogin , that might work
[12:29] <ScorpKing> bigleon_: what's ur location?
[12:30] <bigleon_> can i open up wget with a GUI?
[12:30] <bigleon_> or is it only  command based?
[12:30] <bigleon_> I live in Kansas, USA
[12:30] <Rask330> BluesKaj:  Nope... that didn't work either. =(
[12:30] <bigleon_> i want to get Gutsy GIbbon
[12:30] <BluesKaj> Rask330, and of check your levels , at least 60% and make sure your KB mute isn't on (if one exists)
[12:30] <bigleon_> but i can't seem to open any ubunto.com sites
[12:31] <BluesKaj> if nothing else works ...it beats me :(
[12:31] <cash> Hello , can  some one help me find RU chanel ?
[12:31] <hitmanWilly> bigleon_, try kubuntu.org
[12:31] <BluesKaj> !ru
[12:31] <Ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[12:31] <ScorpKing> bigleon_: 7.10 isn't working too well yet
[12:31] <cash> thnx a loTT
[12:31] <bigleon_> oh can you get me a live disk dl for 7.04 then
[12:31] <bigleon_> i can't seem to get anywebsite but google for some reason
[12:32] <feierfox> hello
[12:32] <Rask330> BluesKaj:  Guess that's it then :/  Know of anyone else who could help me further?
[12:32] <ScorpKing> bigleon_: wget http://mirrors.gigenet.com/ubuntu/kubuntu/feisty/kubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso
[12:32] <hitmanWilly> bigleon_, well, wget probably won't work either, then
[12:32] <feierfox> will there be a full-encryption by installation in gutsy? :/
[12:32] <bigleon_> well all my  IM's work. it just seems my  browser went gay
[12:32] <hitmanWilly> bigleon_, ok
[12:33] <ScorpKing> bigleon_: did that help?
[12:33] <hitmanWilly> ScorpKing, that's feisty, he wants gutsy
[12:33] <ScorpKing> hitmanWilly: he said 7.04 is fine 10 lines up. :)
[12:33] <bigleon_> sure did
[12:33] <hitmanWilly> oh, ok :)
[12:34] <bigleon_> will wget do mutiple concurrent connections?
[12:34] <bigleon_> automaticly?
[12:34] <hitmanWilly> i guess that's why I make a lousy programmer...lol
[12:34] <ScorpKing> bigleon_: if the download stop for some reason just add -c after wget and it will carry on.
[12:35] <ScorpKing> bigleon_: not sure about multiple connections
[12:35] <bigleon_> ok
[12:35] <rustalot> When I try to do apt-get update, I get "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)", but (to my knowledge) no other program is using it.
[12:35] <cash> Hello again ) Maybe any known some source about optimization of Kubuntu.I mean nedded software,some setting ,etc ?
[12:35] <hitmanWilly> !aptfix | rustalot
[12:35] <Ubotu> rustalot: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[12:36] <BluesKaj> Rask330, anyone here can help but you have to ask
[12:36] <Rask330> Okie.
[12:36] <lnx_> how i can set my screen resolution ?
[12:36] <hitmanWilly> lnx_, what res do you want?
[12:37] <bigleon_> Rask which Ver of Kubuntu?
[12:37] <rustalot> and I'm having other problems with apt
[12:37] <lnx_> hitmanWilly , 1024 * 768 i think ( or something very close to this )
[12:37] <tinin> Hi, could you please recomend me an application to manage my wifi connection?
[12:37] <ScorpKing> is the a 'migrating to kubuntu' or 'using kubuntu for the first time' book available somewhere?
[12:37] <hitmanWilly> lnx_, what's it at now?
[12:38] <lnx_> 1028*1024
[12:38] <bigleon_> Scorpking Actually if i'm not mistaken, wiki.ubuntu.com has alot of FAQ's  for the new kubuntu user
[12:38] <BluesKaj> !wireless | tinin
[12:38] <Ubotu> tinin: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:38] <Rask330> bigleon_:  7.04