thumperyml: when the branch is pushed, it is signalled to be refreshed12:58
thumperyml: but it isn't instantaneous (as much as I'd like it to be)12:58
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ubotuNew bug: #138775 in malone "Notification subject included bug number but no summary" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13877501:30
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pooliei thought the 'most recently reported bugs' list used to show their state 04:55
pooliebut this no longer seems to be true on edge?04:55
pooliedid it regress?04:55
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mptpoolie, on which page?05:33
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ubotuNew bug: #138805 in launchpad-bazaar "Permissions for editing bug branch links is too permissive" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13880505:46
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pooliempt, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bzr/+filebug06:47
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mptpoolie, the "Is the bug youre reporting one of these?" list does show the state of each bug06:54
mptI think the "Most frequently reported bugs" list includes only open bugs now, but don't quote me on that06:55
mptIf so, there wouldn't be *much* point including their status06:55
pooliempt, it does not, the top one in the list on https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bzr/+filebug is fix released06:55
pooliei can see how users might still be encountering it in older versions s06:56
poolieso i think it's ok to  have it there 06:56
pooliebut it is a bit annoying for advanced  users06:56
pooliealso, wasn't there once a link from a bug page to file a new bug? has that gone entirely?06:56
mptThat's now in the "What next?" section at the bottom06:57
pooliealso it seems odd to me that the 'offer to mentor' is given so much prominence compared to other actions06:57
mptI agree06:58
pooliei guess it makes sense for new features to be a bit more obvious07:02
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mptpoolie, reported bug 13881307:18
ubotuLaunchpad bug 138813 in malone ""Most Frequently Reported Bugs" list includes closed bug reports but doesn't distinguish them" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13881307:18
ubotuNew bug: #138813 in malone ""Most Frequently Reported Bugs" list includes closed bug reports but doesn't distinguish them" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13881307:25
mptubotu, you could be smarter about that07:26
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thumperjamesh: reviewer meeting?08:00
thumperlifeless: meeting?08:00
jtvthumper: coffee?08:00
thumperjtv: yes please08:00
jtvthumper: we're just making it, if you can be here in 5 mins?08:01
thumperjtv: sure, I'll just pop over08:01
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thumperI have a dinner appt at 07:00UTC for the wife's birthday08:04
thumperso I can't hang around forever :)08:04
jtvcongrats.  Have a cookie with the coffee!08:05
tonyyarussothumper: Mine too - wish her a happy co-birthday for me :P08:05
jmlhello hello08:06
thumpertonyyarusso: she doesn't want her birthday any more and is considering having mine instead08:06
tonyyarussothumper: lol08:06
jameshshould we start in a few minutes then?  (with or without lifeless, spiv or BjornT)08:08
BjornTi'm here08:08
spivI'm here.08:09
thumperI'm here08:09
jmlI'm here.08:09
jameshgiven that lifeless is not about, who is charing?08:11
jameshchairing, even08:12
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jameshguess I'll do it then :)08:12
jamesh== Agenda ==08:13
jamesh * Roll call08:13
jamesh * Next meeting08:13
jamesh * Queue status08:13
jamesh * Barry has been slack with last EU/US meeting minutes08:13
jamesh * Mentors wanted08:13
jameshis everyone happy with the same time next week for the meeting?08:13
jameshthat is 18th September at 06:00 UTC08:13
jamesh* Queue status08:14
jamesh36 branches, 11 past the due date08:14
spivOne's mine; I'll get that done today.08:15
jameshtwo of the overdue ones are mine (one of them in followup)08:15
spivkiko has 5 overdue branches!08:15
jameshI'll get them finished today08:15
thumperI've done all mine08:15
thumper. o O (they were small though)08:16
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jameshgiven the size of the development team and review team, I guess the review queue isn't too huge08:16
jameshalthough it'd be worth bringing up kiko's branches at the EU meeting if they're still not done08:16
jmlMine's got 2 more that need review.08:16
jmlwell in hand, I think.08:17
jameshthe next item doesn't seem applicable08:17
jamesh * Mentors wanted08:17
jameshaccording to Barry's email, we've got all the review mentors sorted out now08:17
spivThat's my understanding too.08:18
jameshfor the people at this meeting, spiv is mentoring jml and I'm mentoring jtv08:18
jamesh* Other business08:18
thumpernone from me08:19
jameshif no one has anything else to add, we can finish the meeting.08:19
jameshmeeting ends.08:20
jmljamesh: thanks.08:20
thumperthanks jamesh08:20
jameshthan's for coming08:20
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lifelessbleh, was on fphone with poolie08:25
lifelessvery sorry08:25
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mrevellMorning Launchpadders!10:20
FujitsuHi mrevell.10:20
mrevellhow Fujitsu10:20
=== Fujitsu was about to wonder if the latest rocketfuel merge revision could be displayed on edge somewhere, when you appeared.
mrevellHobbsee: Morning drongo :-D10:21
mrevellsorry, drongobrain10:21
mrevellHobbsee: Or is that a terrible insult and I've made a cultural faux-pas?10:22
Hobbseemrevell: it is an insult, yes.10:22
mrevellHobbsee: In which case, erm, errr...10:22
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FujitsuThat's the one.10:22
mrevellHobbsee: Phew, thanks for the attack, the universe is back in balance.10:22
mrevellFujitsu: Rocketfuel10:22
mrevellFujitsu: Not sure on that. Don't think so. let me check.10:23
Fujitsumrevell: I know it isn't now, but I think it might be nice if it was.10:23
mrevellFujitsu: Right, got you. Want me to file a bug for you?10:23
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Fujitsumrevell: I might as well do so, but you can if you want.10:23
mrevellFujitsu: You go ahead. It'll make more sense for you to file it. 10:24
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Le-Chuck_ITAHi all10:31
Le-Chuck_ITAsomebody going to join me to the lp beta testers team?10:31
Le-Chuck_ITAI would like to provide a bugfix via PPA10:31
Le-Chuck_ITAI already sent e-mails, subscribed to the mailing list and all the rest10:31
FujitsuLe-Chuck_ITA: Why not provide a bugfix through proper channels?10:32
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Le-Chuck_ITAI want to provide the package for testing10:32
Le-Chuck_ITAit's a new upstream release10:32
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Le-Chuck_ITAand if I am not wrong the way to sponsored uploads should become PPA soon10:33
HobbseeFujitsu: if it's a new upstraem release, it will need testing elsewhere, yes.10:34
HobbseeLe-Chuck_ITA: you know, you got answered a few minutes after you left, last time10:34
Le-Chuck_ITAwhat time :)?10:35
Le-Chuck_ITAyou mean today?10:35
Hobbseewhenever i last saw you ask about ppa's.  not today, on any timezone, iirc.10:35
Le-Chuck_ITAI have to find a way10:35
Le-Chuck_ITAto leave chat windows closed10:36
Le-Chuck_ITAin gaim and get warned for certain keywords10:36
Le-Chuck_ITAor just to close IRC windows without leaving the channel10:36
Le-Chuck_ITAsorry for that, Hobbsee10:36
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Le-Chuck_ITAhowever I am now reading the reply in the channel log10:37
mrevellLe-Chuck_ITA: Hi!10:39
Le-Chuck_ITAHi mrevell: I have just read your reply!10:40
mrevellLe-Chuck_ITA: Ah, great :)10:40
Le-Chuck_ITAOk I'll wait10:40
mrevellLe-Chuck_ITA: I'm just working my way through applicants to the beta team, so you should be in it this morning.10:40
Le-Chuck_ITAI hate to leave windows opened, that's the only reason why I leave channels :)10:40
mrevellright :)10:40
Le-Chuck_ITAok, that's wonderful10:40
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Le-Chuck_ITAI used xchat for a long time10:42
Le-Chuck_ITAgaim is just comfortable but I see it lacks some feature10:42
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ubotuNew bug: #138828 in launchpad "LP bzr revision number largely useless with rocketfuel mapping" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13882810:50
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Le-Chuck_ITAbye all, time to close this window :)11:10
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proppyIs there an rss feed associated to each bug report ?11:48
pochuThere isn't, but if you subscribe it, you'll be notified by mail with every change.11:48
pochu(there isn't *yet*)11:48
proppyOk, thanks :)11:49
proppythere is not +rdf tricks either ?11:49
proppylike https://launchpad.net/%7Eproppy/+rdf11:50
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mptproppy, do you have any reason for preferring RDF for bug reports, rather than Atom or RSS?11:52
mpt(to answer your question, we don't have RDF for bug reports either)11:54
ubotuNew bug: #138844 in launchpad-bazaar "bazaar-portlet-importstats is cruft" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13884411:55
proppympt: no, I was just asking if rdf was available because I know it is from other launchpad pages, like groups or peoples12:02
proppyIs there a way I can help to implement rss support ?12:02
proppy(or rdf)12:02
FujitsuMachine parsable bug pages with more than the absolute basics... hahahaha.12:03
mptproppy, I'll get back to you on that12:04
proppynp, I believe the necessary info are on my launchpad page linked above12:04
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Hobbseempt: ping02:13
Hobbseejust checking, is mainline r4831 currently on edge?02:14
ubotuLaunchpad bug 134220 in malone "Bug page has no information about current package version" [High,Fix committed]   - Assigned to Matthew Paul Thomas (mpt)02:14
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FujitsuHobbsee: I don't believe so.02:16
Hobbseeoh, does it go on staging instead?02:17
FujitsuIt's hard to tell, because the revision numbers don't match, and there's no way for mortals to tell between them (I filed that bug earlier..)02:17
FujitsuNo, it'll go to edge first, AFAIK.02:17
Hobbseeeither i'm blind, or it hasnt appeared on staging yet02:18
Hobbseeer, edge02:18
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Hobbseenope.  no dice02:18
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mrevellhi Hobbsee02:18
Hobbseemrevell: greetings!  what's the purpose of edge, if not to show all the currently committed code?02:19
mrevellHobbsee: Howdy. Its purpose is to allow the code to be used in-situ, before release. Is that what you mean by "showing" code?02:19
Hobbseemrevell: in-situ?02:20
Hobbseeoh, in situation02:20
mrevellHobbsee: In place.02:21
Hobbseemrevell: why, then, is the above feature not implemented again on edge?02:21
mrevellbug 134220?02:22
ubotuLaunchpad bug 134220 in malone "Bug page has no information about current package version" [High,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134220 - Assigned to Matthew Paul Thomas (mpt)02:22
Hobbseemrevell: yep02:22
mrevelllet me take a look02:22
pochuHobbsee, mrevell: mpt said it's fixed in r4831, but edge is running build 482602:24
pochuI guess that's the cause :)02:24
Hobbseepochu: ahh.  how can i find what build it's running?02:24
mrevellpochu: That's a cause but not a reason :)02:25
Hobbseeoh, i see02:25
pochuHobbsee: left down corner02:25
Hobbseeright, actually02:25
Hobbseebut thanks :)02:25
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mrevellHobbsee: Updates to edge are suspended at this stage of the LP dev cycle.02:26
mrevellHobbsee: Let me check when updates will resume.02:26
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Hobbseemrevell: then the next question is...if staging is at 4845, why is it not there either?  or is this to do with the revision numbers not matching?02:27
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FujitsuHobbsee: Cherry-pickings and the like stuff build numbers up.02:29
HobbseeFujitsu: right02:29
Hobbseethis all makes soyuz look simple.02:30
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mrevellHobbsee: I'm on the case to get a good answer.02:32
Hobbseemrevell: cool, thanks02:32
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matsubarahi, what rev specifically you're looking for Hobbsee?02:32
Hobbseematsubara: heya!   r483102:35
matsubaraHobbsee: take bug https://bugs.staging.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/44062 as an example. if you expand the firefox (ubuntu) bugtask you'll see there's a Latest release: in the table.02:39
ubotuLaunchpad bug 44062 in firefox "Firefox allows cookies to be set for second-level domain hierarchies" [High,Confirmed]   - Assigned to Mozilla Bugs (mozilla-bugs)02:39
matsubaraHobbsee: we've stopped updating edge because this week we had to land DB patches. Since edge uses the same DB as lpnet, we can't update the code, until we update the DB.02:42
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Hobbseematsubara: ohh...i see.02:43
Hobbseemeh.  that doesnt fix the bug in the way that is actually useful02:43
FujitsuHm, that's really out of place and hidden.02:45
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matsubaraHobbsee, Fujitsu: if that UI isn't working for you, please leave a comment in the bug report telling mpt why not and explaining your use case.02:48
Hobbseematsubara: will do.  might poke him over irc first, then take that to the bug report - as we do need this fixed.02:49
Hobbsee(reasonably quickly)02:49
matsubarathanks Hobbsee 02:51
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evadaveThis is probably a silly question, and I have read help.launchpad.net, but, how does a project admin create a list of FAQs? (so that it appears under "List all FAQs". Thanks in advance.03:18
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kikoevadave, you create them based on questions, I believe03:21
evadaveYeah, I created one but I couldn't see how to make it a FaQ03:22
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kikoevadave, based on answered questions, though03:29
kikoevadave, I'll see to adding a new blog post about this once I find out03:29
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evadaveI answered it too :/03:35
evadaveDoes somebody else have to answer it? ;)03:36
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evadaveOh I see, it has to be set answered, not solved, and then you can make it a FAQ!03:37
FarrancoCan one use LaunchPad to translate a project that is not open source? Or does LaunchPad require as part of its term of use that all projects be open source?  03:38
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kikoFarranco, it's for open source. contact statik if you'd like to use it for a non-OSS project.03:39
radixFarranco: you probably want to talk to statik about our comme...03:40
mrevellFarranco: Ah, kiko beat me to it :)03:40
statikhi Farranco, I'm on the phone now, but you can mail me at elliot at canonical and I'll do my best to help03:40
FarrancoThank you. I have an OS-X project and I make my own shareware and LaunchPad looks nice to help me coordinate with my users as they do the translations out of their own time. Thank you for the answers. I'll drop you an email.03:41
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mvois there a way to disable using edge.lp.net temporarly? I seem to be unable to reassign bug #137324 with it (got OOPS-619EC59)04:37
ubotuLaunchpad bug 137324 in update-manager "Upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04 failed on mysql-server" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13732404:37
Ngmvo: if you go to https://launchpad.net/ you can disable it for 2 hours04:38
NgI asked the same thing yesterday ;)04:38
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mvoaha, thanks! I went to edge.launchpad.net and was expecting the option there. silly me04:42
NgI did precisely the same thing ;)04:42
Nafallofile a bug04:43
mvoheh :)04:43
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mvohrm, looks like I get the same error on the regular launchpad :/ (OOPS-619D1104)04:43
Nafallowill any sysadmin go to the releaseparty for gutsy, and will they have a car with a space for a tiny ISP-person if something goes wrong? ;-)04:44
Nafallomvo: disable it! ;-)04:45
Nafalloehrm... I'm not in the channel I thought I was in :-P04:46
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kikomvo, let me check.04:51
mvokiko: and don't tell me its because I have too many bugs assigned to me :P I know that already04:52
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ubotuNew bug: #138916 in launchpad "The number of translations is wrong" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13891605:46
kikomvo, that's not an error. it's a timeout.05:46
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mvokiko: anything I can do to reassign this bug or to workaorund the timeout? I seem to always get it when trying to reassign the bug06:13
kikomvo, keep trying? unfortunately I still need to get this bug fixed meanwhile06:15
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ubotuNew bug: #138928 in launchpad-answers "There is no way to create a FAQ without a question" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13892806:30
ubotuNew bug: #138929 in launchpad-answers "When no FAQs exist, the link to FAQ page is really weird" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13892906:35
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infwonderhi all! is there any Launchpad admin here?06:54
Odd_Blokeinfwonder: There probably is, but it's best to ask your question and see if anyone answers.06:55
infwonderI have some questions about the auto-generated user info pages on Launchpad 06:55
Odd_Blokeinfwonder: Try asking them here and, if you don't get the answers you're looking for, try the launchpad-users mailing list.06:56
infwonderok, thanks! A friend of mine did some translation for an open-source project, so Lauchpad created a webpage about him, but he is not confortable about it and want to remove the page, is it doable ?06:58
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infwonderanyone ? 07:07
mrevellinfwonder: Hi07:08
infwonderhi !07:08
mrevellinfwonder: I work on the Launchpad team so I may be able to help.07:08
infwonderthank you!07:08
infwonderdid you see my question?07:08
infwonderor should I post them again?07:09
mrevellinfwonder: yes, just writing an answer :)07:09
infwonderthank you07:09
mrevellinfwonder: What information makes your friend uncomfortable?07:10
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infwonderthey use his name (real English name ) in the webpage, I think Launchpad got the name from the "about" page of the software he translated 07:11
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mrevellinfwonder: I see. Do you have a link to the page? It's okay, you can send it to me in a private message if you don't want to do it publicly.07:12
infwonderok I sent it :)07:14
mrevellinfwonder: Thanks :)07:15
infwondercan you disable the page  for him ?07:15
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mrevellinfwonder: Your friend should visit that page and click "Hey I'm xxxxxxxxx". Doing that he can claim that Launchpad account. Once he's claimed the account, he can then change the display name to something that isn't his real name. It should take no more than 5 minutes.07:16
ddaasorry, wrong window07:17
mrevellinfwonder: I have to go afk for a while but if your friend has any problems, he or you can email me. use help@launchpad.net07:18
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infwonderwell, he was upset because he wasn't noticed about this page , you should have notice every user when you want to make a public pages like that, he think his privacy is offended 07:19
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ubotuNew bug: #138949 in malone "There should be a means by which bugtrackers whose bugs have been migrated to launchpad can be identified." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13894908:25
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LaserJockcprov: can we get some sort of PPA feature overview and roadmapish items on the agenda?08:33
LaserJockit seems to me that there are a few things that PPA already does but people don't know about08:33
LaserJocki.e. being able to restart a build08:33
lagai didn't know that.08:34
cprovLaserJock: sure, good point, add it to the wiki page 08:36
kikocprov, LaserJock: I think cprov's comment on the ogre model is spot on08:37
LaserJockthe big things is going to be what things are different from PPA than the Debian/Ubuntu archives08:42
LaserJockand how to actually use the UI08:42
LaserJockwe can give people pointers on .dput.cf and stuff08:43
LaserJockbut we really need to document the diff between PPA and all the "Packaging for Debian/Ubuntu"  guides out there08:43
kikocarlos, danilos: the current rosetta UI is very slick. nice work.08:44
kikocarlos, danilos:the only remaining cruft is the "someone should review" and the "add more lines"  button08:45
LaserJockkiko: what are the chances of getting some info on "future of PPA" like upcoming features, etc. ?08:45
LaserJockcprov: is it ok if I take out the "What's wrong with REVU" agenda item. It's gonna cause us a lot of grief right now08:46
carloskiko: indeed, 'someone should review' should be our next big target once db changes phase2 is completed08:46
cprovLaserJock: yes, remove it for now, as agreed on email.08:47
kiko"What's wrong" is a very negative way of putting /anything/08:48
LaserJockwell, I think he said "what's missing"08:52
LaserJockI was paraphrasing ;-)08:52
LaserJockman, the wiki preview on help.lp.net is really bad08:52
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LaserJockthe "Draft" watermark is not a watermark at all. I can't read anything08:52
LaserJockkiko, cprov: https://help.launchpad.net/PPA101 look ok?08:53
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cprovLaserJock: yes, it does, thanks. I will try to add more comments this evening.08:56
kikolook cool!09:03
kikolooks cool!09:03
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fl33tingtimeis this the place to start a new ubuntu-related project?09:18
fl33tingtimeor ask about it09:18
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fl33tingtimeanyone there?09:29
fl33tingtimeas in listening....09:29
fl33tingtimea new ubuntu related project is on my mind09:31
fl33tingtimeis it to be discussed here?09:31
fl33tingtimeubuntu-love seems to be inactive09:32
laganot sure if this is the right channels09:32
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ddaaThat's not the right channel09:34
ddaaI think the folks in #motu would be able to guide you.09:34
fl33tingtimeddaa : thnx!09:35
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ddaamrevell: do we have some documentation about where to redirect various ubuntu-related requests?09:43
mrevellddaa:  brb phone09:43
mrevellsorry ddaa09:44
mrevellback now09:44
mrevellddaa: Do you for things similar to that above?09:44
ddaaI do mean for things similar to that above, if "mean" was indeed the missing word in your sentence09:44
ddaaOr for example when we got people asking generic packaging questions, at first we said #ubuntu-devel, then a MOTU told us that #motu was better.09:45
ddaaMy problem is that we are embarrassingly ignorant of the structure of the Ubuntu community...09:46
mrevellddaa: Yes, sorry, I did mean to write "mean". I'll poke Jono about this, see what he thinks.09:48
ddaaThank you.09:48
LaserJockwe could do that pretty easily09:52
LaserJockmrevell, ddaa: there is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat09:53
kikoddaa, who's "we"? I claim to know something about the community structure, personally!09:54
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LaserJockbut generally you want #ubuntu-motu for packaging/Universe, #ubuntu-devel for general development (not support), and #ubuntu for support09:54
ddaait is my impression that "we", as a team, do not know enough about it.09:54
ddaawe = launchpad developers, collectively09:55
ddaamaybe the issue is more that I do not know who is knowledgeable in the team.09:55
kikoI dislike blanket statements that seem to suggest that we're disconnected from our users09:55
kikoand I'm in a terrible mood today09:56
kikoso beware!09:56
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ddaaLaserJock: I find this page somewhat scary09:57
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kikoEl Phantasmo and the Chicken-run Blast - Wine, Women and Song Mix by White Zombie from Supersexy Swingin' Sounds09:58
LaserJockddaa: yeah, you guys might want to have a LP-specific version on your wiki09:58
LaserJockthe big thing is to not send people to #ubuntu-devel for support or packaging questions10:00
LaserJockand to not send people to #ubuntu-motu for generic Ubuntu questions10:00
mptGooooooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!10:00
ddaaLaserJock: by "generic ubuntu questions" you mean "generic ubuntu user questions"?10:01
ddaaI have some idea of the scope and purpose of #ubuntu.10:01
LaserJockddaa: well, generic development questions perhaps as well10:02
ddaawhere should these go, then?10:03
LaserJocklike the question you got earlier10:03
ddaaBTW, I am not sure what qualifies as "generic development question"...10:03
LaserJockwell, most likely #ubuntu-devel10:03
LaserJockwell, MOTU is Universe10:03
LaserJockso if somebody is asking about something in Main then it should go to #ubuntu-devel10:03
LaserJock generally, #ubuntu-motu is Universe+packaging10:04
ddaaokay, so we can use #ubuntu-devel as our main hub, except for users requesting help about ubuntu usage and generic packaging?10:04
LaserJockthat'll probably work10:04
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LaserJockthe problem is that generally #ubuntu-motu is a bit ... softer than #ubuntu-devel10:04
ddaawhat sort of "softer"?10:05
LaserJocknot so harsh10:05
LaserJockbut really #ubuntu-motu shouldn't have to field all questions10:06
ddaaright, I am a bit hesitant to send to send enthusiastic yet probably inexperienced people there10:06
LaserJockyeah, I know what you mean10:06
LaserJockit's also not great for people to get bounced around IRC channels :-)10:07
LaserJockwow, already 70 PPAs10:08
ddaathat's why I asked mrevell. But seen we will have the Word From The Chin.10:08
LaserJockshesh, geser's got 302 binaries10:08
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lagaLaserJock: i'm wondering, what's the biggest ppa?10:08
LaserJockdepends on what you are measuring10:09
lagasize in bytes? ;)10:09
LaserJockhmm, don't know that10:09
lagaah, k10:10
LaserJockgeser's got the most binaries10:10
lagamine is around 2 GiB right now because old stuff is not automatically purged yet10:10
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LaserJock~kubuntu-members has got the most source packages10:10
LaserJockI could totally bloat mine up10:10
LaserJockI was going to do some TeX stuff10:11
LaserJockthat's around ~700MB per upload10:11
ddaaMaybe we should not have this sort of "mine is bigger than yours" contest?10:11
LaserJockwhat? no karma for PPA uploads? :-)10:11
kikono karma for any uploads, period!10:12
LaserJockI know, it's been on my Top 5 forever10:12
kikolet's get PPAs and gutsy out and fix that10:13
geserLaserJock: http://ubuntu.joejaxx.org/ must be sufficient till we get karma for uploads10:16
joejaxxgeser: btw updating that now :D10:19
LaserJockgeser: works fine for you, you're on the list10:21
LaserJockgeser: it's just depressing for me ;-)10:21
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geserjoejaxx: iirc you parse the +packages list from LP? is it also counting the ppa uploads which appear also on those pages?10:22
geserLaserJock: :) upload more10:22
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tormodI made a successful upload to my new PPA, no e-mails, but also no builds in any state. How long should it take?10:46
kikotormod, it usually takes a while, depending on how busy the builders are10:49
tormodkiko: thanks. like 20min or hours?10:50
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tormodis there a way to what the builders are doing, like for the normal ubuntu builders?10:50
tormod*to see10:51
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gesertormod: yes10:54
LaserJocktormod: https://edge.launchpad.net/+builds/samarium and https://edge.launchpad.net/+builds/promethium10:54
LaserJockbah, you might need to take the edge. off of that URL10:54
tormodLaserJock: it redirects to edge anyway10:55
tormodthey seem to be idle ?!10:55
tormodthe build history seems busy. so I guess my upload is not going anywhere?11:00
tormodI got the "accepted" e-mail now.11:02
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LaserJocktormod: it just takes a while for everything to get processed11:08
tormodLaserJock: ok no problem. just got worried when I had no feedback and the build servers seemed idle.11:10
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kikoLaserJock, the .changes file is created automatically by dput, right?11:29
LaserJocknot by dput11:29
LaserJockby debuild11:29
LaserJockdput spits out a .upload file11:29
LaserJockand you gotta either remove it or use dput -f if you want to reupload the same package11:30
LaserJockis there a particular reason that PPAs can only have FLOSS software?11:33
lifelessLaserJock: dpkg-buildpackage in fact11:33
lifelessIIRC :)11:33
LaserJocklifeless: well yes, I just didn't want to type that much ;-)11:33
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mdkeanyone know what directory structure is needed for pot/po files to be automatically imported from a package11:47
LaserJockI don't think it has to be a specific structure11:48
LaserJockcould be totally wrong though11:49
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mdkeLaserJock: I believe so, but I'm not sure; haven't found details in the wiki11:50
LaserJockyeah, it's quite difficult to find documentation on the packaging part of translations11:51
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LaserJockyeah, they're killing off all the cool names ;-)11:53
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mdkebah, search is still screwed on the wiki11:56
kikomdke, we need to blame newz2000!11:57
kikoI gave him a #@@!# fix about a month ago!!11:57
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mdkekiko: harsh, the bug says he's pushed a fix and is assigned to the sysadmins11:57
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mdke(bug 110181)11:58
UbotuLaunchpad bug 110181 in launchpad "search box in help.launchpad.net wiki template is broken" [High,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/110181 - Assigned to The Canonical Sysadmins (canonical-sysadmins)11:58
kikoRinchen, is there an RT for the above?11:58
kikomdke, harsh is my middle name!!!!11:58
Rinchenkiko, yes indeed11:59
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mdkekiko: we knew that11:59
kikomy eyes water12:00
kikoand yet I drill on through millions of LOC12:00
mdkehmm, LOC, *googles*12:00
mdkeletter of credits?12:00
mdkeLondon Oncology Clinics?12:01
UbotuNew bug: #138991 in rosetta "Use TranslatableLanguageVocabulary wherever "translatable languages" are checked/listed/chosen" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13899112:01
UbotuNew bug: #138992 in launchpad "Bug suggestions when reporting a bug should include bug assignee" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13899212:01
kikolines of code!!!!!12:01
UbotuNew bug: #138993 in launchpad "All bug listings should include an assignee column" [Low,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13899312:06
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UbotuNew bug: #138994 in launchpad "It would be nice if a projects had a default milestone" [Low,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13899412:11
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mdkedamn screen. Don't suppose I missed someone answering my question about rosetta?12:13
radixdoesn't look like anyone said anything interesting since you said "shame"12:13
kikomdke, which question?12:14
mdkekiko: about what directory format is required for automatic importing of translation templates/translations from a package12:14
kikomdke, it only works for packages in main -- you know that, right?12:15
kikoso a few different formats are supported12:15
kikoI could swear this was documented somewhere12:15
mdkeby format, I should have said layout12:15
mdkewould this be acceptable:12:16
mdkepackagename/template/template.pot ; packagename/template/cc/cc.po12:16
mdkerather than having all the po files in a single "po" directory12:16
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kikoI believe that's supported12:18
kikoI can't seem to find the code to actually confirm that though12:18
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mdkeno worries, thanks for the help12:20
UbotuNew bug: #138996 in launchpad-bazaar "Please provide server-side Bazaar repositories" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13899612:20
UbotuNew bug: #138997 in launchpad "Please allow editing of releases" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13899712:25
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UbotuNew bug: #138999 in malone "Please allow for bugs to be proposed to a milestone and a series" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13899912:30
UbotuNew bug: #139002 in launchpad "Please create a release overview page similar to the milestone overview" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13900212:45

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