[12:58] yml: when the branch is pushed, it is signalled to be refreshed [12:58] yml: but it isn't instantaneous (as much as I'd like it to be) === AlinuxOS [n=vsichi@host57-130-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #launchpad === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-124-170.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #launchpad === tck [n=tck@78.16.23.148] has joined #launchpad === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #launchpad [01:30] New bug: #138775 in malone "Notification subject included bug number but no summary" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138775 === jml [n=jml@203-113-250-169-static.TAS.netspace.net.au] has joined #launchpad === fabbione [n=fabbione@ip-66-80-12-66.dsl.sca.megapath.net] has joined #launchpad === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #launchpad === zzorn is now known as zzorn_sleep === spiv [n=andrew@canonical/launchpad/spiv] has joined #launchpad === doko_ is now known as doko === l_ [n=l_@mix.mmjgroup.com] has joined #launchpad === DodoAlien [n=dodo@host37-91-static.90-82-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #launchpad === mayeco [n=mayeco@201.218.112.253] has joined #launchpad === cprov [n=cprov@canonical/launchpad/cprov] has joined #launchpad === merriam [n=merriam@85-211-20-34.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === pitoow [n=nao_@200-138-213-52.fnsce702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #launchpad === mthaddon [n=mthaddon@canonical/launchpad/mthaddon] has joined #launchpad === superm1_ [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #launchpad === damir_1105 [n=root@91.191.27.102] has joined #launchpad === valles [n=valles@200.71.131.18] has joined #launchpad === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #launchpad === fernando1 [i=fernando@gateway/tor/x-9e1609a7d95dc262] has joined #launchpad === superm1_ is now known as superm1 === jml [n=jml@ppp108-61.static.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === ionstorm [n=ion@71-36-164-32.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #launchpad === l_ [n=l_@mix.mmjgroup.com] has joined #launchpad [04:55] i thought the 'most recently reported bugs' list used to show their state [04:55] but this no longer seems to be true on edge? [04:55] did it regress? === fernando1 [i=fernando@gateway/tor/x-236f95725892935f] has joined #launchpad === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #launchpad === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #launchpad [05:33] poolie, on which page? === Prognatus_ [n=bjorn@147.80-202-51.nextgentel.com] has joined #launchpad [05:46] New bug: #138805 in launchpad-bazaar "Permissions for editing bug branch links is too permissive" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138805 === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad === Prognatus_ [n=bjorn@147.80-202-51.nextgentel.com] has joined #launchpad === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad [06:47] mpt, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bzr/+filebug === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad [06:54] poolie, the "Is the bug youre reporting one of these?" list does show the state of each bug [06:55] I think the "Most frequently reported bugs" list includes only open bugs now, but don't quote me on that [06:55] If so, there wouldn't be *much* point including their status [06:55] mpt, it does not, the top one in the list on https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bzr/+filebug is fix released [06:56] i can see how users might still be encountering it in older versions s [06:56] so i think it's ok to have it there [06:56] but it is a bit annoying for advanced users [06:56] also, wasn't there once a link from a bug page to file a new bug? has that gone entirely? [06:57] That's now in the "What next?" section at the bottom [06:57] huh [06:57] ok [06:57] also it seems odd to me that the 'offer to mentor' is given so much prominence compared to other actions [06:58] I agree [07:02] i guess it makes sense for new features to be a bit more obvious === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad [07:18] poolie, reported bug 138813 [07:18] Launchpad bug 138813 in malone ""Most Frequently Reported Bugs" list includes closed bug reports but doesn't distinguish them" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138813 [07:25] New bug: #138813 in malone ""Most Frequently Reported Bugs" list includes closed bug reports but doesn't distinguish them" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138813 [07:26] ubotu, you could be smarter about that === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #launchpad === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-130-17.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #launchpad === jtv [n=jtv@125-24-243-76.adsl.totbb.net] has joined #launchpad [08:00] jamesh: reviewer meeting? [08:00] lifeless: meeting? [08:00] thumper: coffee? [08:00] jtv: yes please [08:01] thumper: we're just making it, if you can be here in 5 mins? [08:01] jtv: sure, I'll just pop over [08:01] hi [08:01] hi === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad [08:04] I have a dinner appt at 07:00UTC for the wife's birthday [08:04] so I can't hang around forever :) [08:05] congrats. Have a cookie with the coffee! [08:05] thumper: Mine too - wish her a happy co-birthday for me :P [08:06] hello hello [08:06] tonyyarusso: she doesn't want her birthday any more and is considering having mine instead [08:06] thumper: lol [08:08] should we start in a few minutes then? (with or without lifeless, spiv or BjornT) [08:08] i'm here [08:09] I'm here. [08:09] I'm here [08:09] I'm here. [08:11] given that lifeless is not about, who is charing? [08:12] chairing, even === thumper looks around [08:12] guess I'll do it then :) [08:13] == Agenda == [08:13] * Roll call [08:13] * Next meeting [08:13] * Queue status [08:13] * Barry has been slack with last EU/US meeting minutes [08:13] * Mentors wanted [08:13] is everyone happy with the same time next week for the meeting? [08:13] yes [08:13] yes [08:13] that is 18th September at 06:00 UTC [08:13] yes [08:14] yes [08:14] good. [08:14] * Queue status [08:14] longish [08:14] 36 branches, 11 past the due date [08:15] One's mine; I'll get that done today. [08:15] two of the overdue ones are mine (one of them in followup) [08:15] kiko has 5 overdue branches! [08:15] I'll get them finished today [08:15] I've done all mine [08:16] . o O (they were small though) === zzorn [n=zz@212.16.103.33] has joined #launchpad [08:16] given the size of the development team and review team, I guess the review queue isn't too huge [08:16] although it'd be worth bringing up kiko's branches at the EU meeting if they're still not done [08:16] Mine's got 2 more that need review. [08:17] well in hand, I think. [08:17] the next item doesn't seem applicable [08:17] * Mentors wanted [08:17] according to Barry's email, we've got all the review mentors sorted out now [08:18] That's my understanding too. [08:18] for the people at this meeting, spiv is mentoring jml and I'm mentoring jtv [08:18] * Other business [08:19] none from me [08:19] if no one has anything else to add, we can finish the meeting. [08:19] 5 [08:19] 4 [08:19] 3 [08:19] 2 [08:20] 1 [08:20] meeting ends. [08:20] liftoff! [08:20] jamesh: thanks. [08:20] thanks jamesh [08:20] than's for coming === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad === thumper off for dinner :) [08:25] bleh, was on fphone with poolie [08:25] very sorry === ionstorm [n=ion@71-36-164-32.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #launchpad === Odd_Blok1 [i=oddbloke@compsoc.sunion.warwick.ac.uk] has joined #launchpad === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad === carlos [n=carlos@canonical/launchpad/carlos] has joined #launchpad [08:47] morning === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad === Le-Chuck_ITA [n=Le-Chuck@host26-205-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #launchpad === Le-Chuck_ITA [n=Le-Chuck@host26-205-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has left #launchpad [] === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad === kompressor [n=kompress@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #launchpad === Yeah [n=ohboy@c-24-6-9-246.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #launchpad === ddaa [n=david@canonical/launchpad/ddaa] has joined #launchpad === danilos [n=danilo@adsl-236-193.eunet.yu] has joined #launchpad === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad === Prognatus_ [n=irc@147.80-202-51.nextgentel.com] has joined #launchpad === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad === bigjools [n=ed@canonical/launchpad/bigjools] has joined #launchpad === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad === damir_1105 [n=root@91.191.27.102] has joined #launchpad === intellectronica [n=intellec@host86-139-53-135.range86-139.btcentralplus.com] has joined #launchpad === mrevell [n=matthew@canonical/launchpad/mrevell] has joined #launchpad [10:20] Morning Launchpadders! [10:20] Hi mrevell. [10:20] how Fujitsu [10:21] mrevell! === Fujitsu was about to wonder if the latest rocketfuel merge revision could be displayed on edge somewhere, when you appeared. [10:21] Hobbsee: Morning drongo :-D [10:21] sorry, drongobrain [10:22] hah [10:22] Hobbsee: Or is that a terrible insult and I've made a cultural faux-pas? [10:22] mrevell: it is an insult, yes. [10:22] Hobbsee: In which case, erm, errr... === Hobbsee attacks mrevell with the Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [10:22] That's the one. [10:22] Hobbsee: Phew, thanks for the attack, the universe is back in balance. [10:22] Fujitsu: Rocketfuel [10:23] Fujitsu: Not sure on that. Don't think so. let me check. [10:23] heh [10:23] mrevell: I know it isn't now, but I think it might be nice if it was. [10:23] Fujitsu: Right, got you. Want me to file a bug for you? === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad [10:23] mrevell: I might as well do so, but you can if you want. [10:24] Fujitsu: You go ahead. It'll make more sense for you to file it. === Fujitsu does so. === pochu [n=emilio@84.Red-83-57-218.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad === Le-Chuck_ITA [n=Le-Chuck@host26-205-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #launchpad [10:31] Hi all [10:31] somebody going to join me to the lp beta testers team? [10:31] I would like to provide a bugfix via PPA [10:31] I already sent e-mails, subscribed to the mailing list and all the rest [10:32] Le-Chuck_ITA: Why not provide a bugfix through proper channels? === gmb [n=gmb@i-83-67-5-113.freedom2surf.net] has joined #launchpad [10:32] I want to provide the package for testing [10:32] it's a new upstream release === jml [n=jml@ppp121-44-221-92.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad [10:33] and if I am not wrong the way to sponsored uploads should become PPA soon [10:33] ? [10:34] Fujitsu: if it's a new upstraem release, it will need testing elsewhere, yes. [10:34] Le-Chuck_ITA: you know, you got answered a few minutes after you left, last time [10:35] what time :)? [10:35] you mean today? [10:35] whenever i last saw you ask about ppa's. not today, on any timezone, iirc. [10:35] ok [10:35] I have to find a way [10:36] to leave chat windows closed [10:36] in gaim and get warned for certain keywords [10:36] or just to close IRC windows without leaving the channel [10:36] sorry for that, Hobbsee === schwuk [n=dave@ubuntu/member/schwuk] has joined #launchpad [10:37] however I am now reading the reply in the channel log [10:39] Le-Chuck_ITA: Hi! [10:40] Hi mrevell: I have just read your reply! [10:40] Le-Chuck_ITA: Ah, great :) [10:40] Ok I'll wait [10:40] Le-Chuck_ITA: I'm just working my way through applicants to the beta team, so you should be in it this morning. [10:40] I hate to leave windows opened, that's the only reason why I leave channels :) [10:40] right :) [10:40] ok, that's wonderful === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad === Hobbsee suggests finding a decent irc client [10:42] yeah [10:42] I used xchat for a long time [10:42] gaim is just comfortable but I see it lacks some feature === dneary [n=dneary@251.9.39-62.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #launchpad [10:50] New bug: #138828 in launchpad "LP bzr revision number largely useless with rocketfuel mapping" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138828 === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad [11:10] bye all, time to close this window :) === Le-Chuck_ITA [n=Le-Chuck@host26-205-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has left #launchpad ["Leaving."] === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad === rraphink [i=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #launchpad === jml [n=jml@ppp121-44-221-92.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad === proppy [n=proppy@ram94-2-82-66-68-232.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #launchpad [11:47] hi [11:48] Is there an rss feed associated to each bug report ? [11:48] There isn't, but if you subscribe it, you'll be notified by mail with every change. [11:48] (there isn't *yet*) [11:49] Ok, thanks :) [11:49] there is not +rdf tricks either ? [11:50] like https://launchpad.net/%7Eproppy/+rdf === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad === Watersevenub [n=Watersev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #launchpad === Watersevenub [n=Watersev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has left #launchpad ["Saindo"] [11:52] proppy, do you have any reason for preferring RDF for bug reports, rather than Atom or RSS? [11:54] (to answer your question, we don't have RDF for bug reports either) [11:55] New bug: #138844 in launchpad-bazaar "bazaar-portlet-importstats is cruft" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138844 [12:02] mpt: no, I was just asking if rdf was available because I know it is from other launchpad pages, like groups or peoples [12:02] Is there a way I can help to implement rss support ? [12:02] (or rdf) [12:03] Machine parsable bug pages with more than the absolute basics... hahahaha. [12:04] proppy, I'll get back to you on that [12:04] np, I believe the necessary info are on my launchpad page linked above [12:05] ok === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad === sydhart [n=dhart@124-171-53-132.dyn.iinet.net.au] has left #launchpad [] === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad === vprints [n=vprints@213-35-234-124-dsl.end.estpak.ee] has joined #launchpad === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #launchpad === TeTeT [n=spindler@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad === gmb is now known as gmb-afk === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad === tck [n=tck@78.16.23.148] has joined #launchpad === gmb-afk is now known as gmb === Philip5 [n=Philip@c83-253-56-100.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #launchpad === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad === Spads [i=spacehob@nat/canonical/x-2cbd29a8766aeffe] has joined #launchpad === gouki [n=gouki@ubuntu/member/gouki] has joined #launchpad === ddaa [n=ddaa@nor75-18-82-241-238-155.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #launchpad === ddaa_ [n=david@canonical/launchpad/ddaa] has joined #launchpad === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad === salgado [n=salgado@canonical/launchpad/salgado] has joined #launchpad === matsubara [n=matsubar@canonical/launchpad/matsubara] has joined #launchpad === niemeyer [n=niemeyer@200-103-134-216.ctame705.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #launchpad === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad [02:13] mpt: ping [02:14] just checking, is mainline r4831 currently on edge? [02:14] (https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/134220) [02:14] Launchpad bug 134220 in malone "Bug page has no information about current package version" [High,Fix committed] - Assigned to Matthew Paul Thomas (mpt) === pochu [n=emilio@84.Red-83-57-218.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad [02:16] Hobbsee: I don't believe so. [02:16] darn [02:17] oh, does it go on staging instead? [02:17] It's hard to tell, because the revision numbers don't match, and there's no way for mortals to tell between them (I filed that bug earlier..) [02:17] No, it'll go to edge first, AFAIK. [02:18] either i'm blind, or it hasnt appeared on staging yet [02:18] er, edge === Hobbsee tries staging [02:18] nope. no dice === Hobbsee pokes mrevell [02:18] hi Hobbsee [02:19] mrevell: greetings! what's the purpose of edge, if not to show all the currently committed code? [02:19] Hobbsee: Howdy. Its purpose is to allow the code to be used in-situ, before release. Is that what you mean by "showing" code? [02:20] mrevell: in-situ? [02:20] oh, in situation [02:21] Hobbsee: In place. [02:21] mrevell: why, then, is the above feature not implemented again on edge? [02:22] bug 134220? [02:22] Launchpad bug 134220 in malone "Bug page has no information about current package version" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134220 - Assigned to Matthew Paul Thomas (mpt) [02:22] mrevell: yep [02:22] let me take a look [02:24] Hobbsee, mrevell: mpt said it's fixed in r4831, but edge is running build 4826 [02:24] I guess that's the cause :) [02:24] pochu: ahh. how can i find what build it's running? [02:25] pochu: That's a cause but not a reason :) [02:25] oh, i see [02:25] Hobbsee: left down corner [02:25] right, actually [02:25] but thanks :) === Hobbsee did a find on the page [02:25] hehe [02:26] Hobbsee: Updates to edge are suspended at this stage of the LP dev cycle. [02:26] Hobbsee: Let me check when updates will resume. === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad [02:27] mrevell: then the next question is...if staging is at 4845, why is it not there either? or is this to do with the revision numbers not matching? === ddaa [n=ddaa@nor75-18-82-241-238-155.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #launchpad [02:29] Hobbsee: Cherry-pickings and the like stuff build numbers up. [02:29] Fujitsu: right [02:30] this all makes soyuz look simple. === fabbione [n=fabbione@ip-66-80-12-66.dsl.sca.megapath.net] has joined #launchpad === OgMaciel [n=omaciel@foresight/developer/OgMaciel] has joined #launchpad [02:32] Hobbsee: I'm on the case to get a good answer. [02:32] mrevell: cool, thanks === Hobbsee wonders what we're supposed to be testing on edge, anyway [02:32] hi, what rev specifically you're looking for Hobbsee? [02:35] matsubara: heya! r4831 [02:39] Hobbsee: take bug https://bugs.staging.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/44062 as an example. if you expand the firefox (ubuntu) bugtask you'll see there's a Latest release: in the table. [02:39] Launchpad bug 44062 in firefox "Firefox allows cookies to be set for second-level domain hierarchies" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Mozilla Bugs (mozilla-bugs) [02:42] Hobbsee: we've stopped updating edge because this week we had to land DB patches. Since edge uses the same DB as lpnet, we can't update the code, until we update the DB. === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad [02:43] matsubara: ohh...i see. [02:43] yep [02:43] meh. that doesnt fix the bug in the way that is actually useful [02:45] Hm, that's really out of place and hidden. === hggdh [n=hggdh@pool-71-170-39-244.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #launchpad [02:48] Hobbsee, Fujitsu: if that UI isn't working for you, please leave a comment in the bug report telling mpt why not and explaining your use case. [02:49] matsubara: will do. might poke him over irc first, then take that to the bug report - as we do need this fixed. [02:49] (reasonably quickly) [02:51] thanks Hobbsee === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad === cprov [n=cprov@canonical/launchpad/cprov] has joined #launchpad === kiko-afk is now known as kiko === dneary [n=dneary@251.9.39-62.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #launchpad === evadave [n=dave@irc.evad.info] has joined #launchpad === AlinuxOS [n=vsichi@host57-130-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #launchpad [03:18] This is probably a silly question, and I have read help.launchpad.net, but, how does a project admin create a list of FAQs? (so that it appears under "List all FAQs". Thanks in advance. === fernando1 [i=fernando@gateway/tor/x-fa2b652cf87bed08] has joined #launchpad [03:21] evadave, you create them based on questions, I believe [03:22] Yeah, I created one but I couldn't see how to make it a FaQ [03:22] s/FaQ/FAQ/ === Rinchen [n=joey@canonical/launchpad/pdpc.supporter.professional.rinchen] has joined #launchpad [03:29] evadave, based on answered questions, though [03:29] evadave, I'll see to adding a new blog post about this once I find out === BjornT [n=bjorn@canonical/launchpad/BjornT] has joined #launchpad === mdke [i=mdke@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #launchpad === ryanakca [n=ryan@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has joined #launchpad === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu-nl.org] has joined #launchpad === tck [n=tck@213-202-133-50.bas502.dsl.esat.net] has joined #launchpad [03:35] I answered it too :/ [03:36] Does somebody else have to answer it? ;) === Farranco [n=Farranco@62.57.48.92.static.user.ono.com] has joined #launchpad [03:37] Oh I see, it has to be set answered, not solved, and then you can make it a FAQ! [03:38] Can one use LaunchPad to translate a project that is not open source? Or does LaunchPad require as part of its term of use that all projects be open source? === merriam [n=merriam@85-211-21-215.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #launchpad [03:39] Farranco, it's for open source. contact statik if you'd like to use it for a non-OSS project. [03:40] Farranco: you probably want to talk to statik about our comme... [03:40] yeah [03:40] Farranco: Ah, kiko beat me to it :) [03:40] hi Farranco, I'm on the phone now, but you can mail me at elliot at canonical and I'll do my best to help [03:41] Thank you. I have an OS-X project and I make my own shareware and LaunchPad looks nice to help me coordinate with my users as they do the translations out of their own time. Thank you for the answers. I'll drop you an email. === fabbione_ [n=fabbione@ip-66-80-12-66.dsl.sca.megapath.net] has joined #launchpad === fabbione_ is now known as fabbione === Paracha [i=Coder@Is.A.TclCoder.Org] has joined #launchpad === gmb is now known as gmb-afk === cpro1 [n=cprov@201-68-28-217.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad === mvo [n=egon@p54A67B1B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #launchpad === gmb-afk is now known as gmb [04:37] is there a way to disable using edge.lp.net temporarly? I seem to be unable to reassign bug #137324 with it (got OOPS-619EC59) [04:37] Launchpad bug 137324 in update-manager "Upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04 failed on mysql-server" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137324 [04:38] mvo: if you go to https://launchpad.net/ you can disable it for 2 hours [04:38] I asked the same thing yesterday ;) === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #launchpad [04:42] aha, thanks! I went to edge.launchpad.net and was expecting the option there. silly me [04:42] I did precisely the same thing ;) [04:43] haha [04:43] file a bug [04:43] heh :) === lukketto [n=lukketto@host80-193-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #launchpad [04:43] hrm, looks like I get the same error on the regular launchpad :/ (OOPS-619D1104) [04:43] https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/619D1104 [04:44] will any sysadmin go to the releaseparty for gutsy, and will they have a car with a space for a tiny ISP-person if something goes wrong? ;-) [04:45] mvo: disable it! ;-) [04:46] ehrm... I'm not in the channel I thought I was in :-P === mthaddon [n=mthaddon@canonical/launchpad/mthaddon] has joined #launchpad [04:51] mvo, let me check. [04:52] kiko: and don't tell me its because I have too many bugs assigned to me :P I know that already === gmb is now known as gmb-afk === lbm [n=lbm@0x555373ab.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #launchpad === fbs [n=felipe@190.8.81.97] has joined #launchpad === pitoow [n=nao_@200-138-205-65.fnsce702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #launchpad === tck_ [n=tck@78.16.49.211] has joined #launchpad === EdwinGrubbs [n=edwin@cpe-66-25-92-150.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #launchpad === homanj [n=homanj@24-197-201-200.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has joined #launchpad === zzorn_sleep is now known as zzorn === schwuk [n=dave@ubuntu/member/schwuk] has joined #launchpad === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad === pitoow [n=nao_@200-138-205-65.fnsce702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #launchpad [05:46] New bug: #138916 in launchpad "The number of translations is wrong" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138916 [05:46] mvo, that's not an error. it's a timeout. [05:47] :) === spenser [n=spenser@laptop-tx-01.baylor.edu] has joined #launchpad === stgraber [n=stgraber@dakara.stgraber.org] has joined #launchpad === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch === Mez_ [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #launchpad === poolie_ [n=mbp@ppp112-44.static.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === elkbuntu [n=melissa@ubuntu/member/elkbuntu] has joined #launchpad [06:13] kiko: anything I can do to reassign this bug or to workaorund the timeout? I seem to always get it when trying to reassign the bug [06:15] mvo, keep trying? unfortunately I still need to get this bug fixed meanwhile === proppy [n=proppy@ram94-2-82-66-68-232.fbx.proxad.net] has left #launchpad [] === lukketto [n=lukketto@host80-193-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has left #launchpad [] === mayeco [n=mayeco@201.218.105.31] has joined #launchpad [06:30] New bug: #138928 in launchpad-answers "There is no way to create a FAQ without a question" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138928 [06:35] New bug: #138929 in launchpad-answers "When no FAQs exist, the link to FAQ page is really weird" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138929 === gmb-afk is now known as gmb === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch === Martinp23 [n=martinp2@wikimedia/Martinp23] has joined #launchpad === infwonder [n=wonder@59-121-1-128.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #launchpad [06:54] hi all! is there any Launchpad admin here? [06:55] infwonder: There probably is, but it's best to ask your question and see if anyone answers. [06:55] I have some questions about the auto-generated user info pages on Launchpad [06:56] infwonder: Try asking them here and, if you don't get the answers you're looking for, try the launchpad-users mailing list. [06:58] ok, thanks! A friend of mine did some translation for an open-source project, so Lauchpad created a webpage about him, but he is not confortable about it and want to remove the page, is it doable ? === cprov [n=cprov@canonical/launchpad/cprov] has joined #launchpad === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara [07:07] anyone ? [07:08] infwonder: Hi [07:08] hi ! [07:08] infwonder: I work on the Launchpad team so I may be able to help. [07:08] thank you! [07:08] did you see my question? [07:09] or should I post them again? [07:09] infwonder: yes, just writing an answer :) [07:09] thank you [07:10] infwonder: What information makes your friend uncomfortable? === dcm_ [n=dcm@207.59.145.201] has joined #launchpad === gmb is now known as gmb-afk [07:11] they use his name (real English name ) in the webpage, I think Launchpad got the name from the "about" page of the software he translated === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #launchpad [07:12] infwonder: I see. Do you have a link to the page? It's okay, you can send it to me in a private message if you don't want to do it publicly. [07:14] ok I sent it :) [07:15] infwonder: Thanks :) [07:15] can you disable the page for him ? === yml [n=yml@put92-2-82-224-221-145.fbx.proxad.net] has left #launchpad ["Kopete] [07:16] infwonder: Your friend should visit that page and click "Hey I'm xxxxxxxxx". Doing that he can claim that Launchpad account. Once he's claimed the account, he can then change the display name to something that isn't his real name. It should take no more than 5 minutes. [07:17] ... [07:17] sorry, wrong window [07:18] infwonder: I have to go afk for a while but if your friend has any problems, he or you can email me. use help@launchpad.net === mumbly [n=mumbly@s2ii.homeunix.net] has joined #launchpad [07:19] well, he was upset because he wasn't noticed about this page , you should have notice every user when you want to make a public pages like that, he think his privacy is offended === EtAlors [n=bad@gob75-7-82-247-115-200.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #launchpad === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado === crevette_ [n=crevette@man06-2-88-167-44-76.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #launchpad === crevette_ is now known as bmm === jamesh [n=james@canonical/launchpad/jamesh] has joined #launchpad === miltondp [n=miltondp@201-213-34-63.net.prima.net.ar] has joined #launchpad === lukketto [n=lukketto@host80-193-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #launchpad === cprov [n=cprov@canonical/launchpad/cprov] has joined #launchpad === jamesh [n=james@canonical/launchpad/jamesh] has joined #launchpad === jordi_ [n=jordi@115.Red-213-96-69.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad === BlueT_Malaysia [n=matthew@ubuntu/member/BlueT] has joined #launchpad === infwonder [n=wonder@59-121-1-128.dynamic.hinet.net] has left #launchpad [] === gmb-afk is now known as gmb [08:25] New bug: #138949 in malone "There should be a means by which bugtrackers whose bugs have been migrated to launchpad can be identified." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138949 === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #launchpad [08:33] cprov: can we get some sort of PPA feature overview and roadmapish items on the agenda? [08:33] it seems to me that there are a few things that PPA already does but people don't know about [08:33] i.e. being able to restart a build [08:34] right [08:34] i didn't know that. [08:36] LaserJock: sure, good point, add it to the wiki page [08:37] cprov, LaserJock: I think cprov's comment on the ogre model is spot on [08:42] the big things is going to be what things are different from PPA than the Debian/Ubuntu archives [08:42] and how to actually use the UI [08:43] we can give people pointers on .dput.cf and stuff [08:43] but we really need to document the diff between PPA and all the "Packaging for Debian/Ubuntu" guides out there [08:44] carlos, danilos: the current rosetta UI is very slick. nice work. [08:45] carlos, danilos:the only remaining cruft is the "someone should review" and the "add more lines" button [08:45] kiko: what are the chances of getting some info on "future of PPA" like upcoming features, etc. ? [08:46] cprov: is it ok if I take out the "What's wrong with REVU" agenda item. It's gonna cause us a lot of grief right now [08:46] kiko: indeed, 'someone should review' should be our next big target once db changes phase2 is completed [08:47] LaserJock: yes, remove it for now, as agreed on email. [08:48] "What's wrong" is a very negative way of putting /anything/ [08:52] well, I think he said "what's missing" [08:52] I was paraphrasing ;-) [08:52] man, the wiki preview on help.lp.net is really bad === nao_ [n=nao_@200-138-205-65.fnsce702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #launchpad [08:52] the "Draft" watermark is not a watermark at all. I can't read anything [08:53] kiko, cprov: https://help.launchpad.net/PPA101 look ok? === Caesar [n=apollock@debian/developer/apollock] has joined #launchpad [08:56] LaserJock: yes, it does, thanks. I will try to add more comments this evening. [09:03] look cool! [09:03] err [09:03] looks cool! === jamesh [n=james@canonical/launchpad/jamesh] has joined #launchpad === fernando1 [i=fernando@gateway/tor/x-44bc742673a73eda] has joined #launchpad === engida [n=Engdaw@24-75-199-158-st.chvlva.adelphia.net] has joined #launchpad === gmb is now known as gmb-afk === engida [n=Engdaw@24-75-199-158-st.chvlva.adelphia.net] has left #launchpad [] === AaronVS [n=aajvs99@c-71-205-129-220.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #launchpad === fl33tingtime [n=knoppix@59.183.47.113] has joined #launchpad [09:18] is this the place to start a new ubuntu-related project? [09:18] or ask about it === mdz_ [n=mdz@ip-81-1-105-230.cust.homechoice.net] has joined #launchpad [09:29] hello.... [09:29] anyone there? [09:29] as in listening.... [09:30] ping [09:31] ? [09:31] thnx. [09:31] a new ubuntu related project is on my mind [09:31] is it to be discussed here? [09:32] ubuntu-love seems to be inactive [09:32] not sure if this is the right channels [09:32] channel* === jnthnjng [n=jonner@71-215-204-83.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #launchpad [09:34] That's not the right channel [09:34] I think the folks in #motu would be able to guide you. [09:35] ddaa : thnx! === fl33tingtime [n=knoppix@59.183.47.113] has left #launchpad [] === BjornT [n=bjorn@canonical/launchpad/BjornT] has joined #launchpad === Spads [n=spacehob@unaffiliated/spads] has joined #launchpad [09:43] mrevell: do we have some documentation about where to redirect various ubuntu-related requests? [09:43] ddaa: brb phone [09:44] sorry ddaa [09:44] back now [09:44] ddaa: Do you for things similar to that above? [09:44] I do mean for things similar to that above, if "mean" was indeed the missing word in your sentence [09:45] Or for example when we got people asking generic packaging questions, at first we said #ubuntu-devel, then a MOTU told us that #motu was better. [09:46] My problem is that we are embarrassingly ignorant of the structure of the Ubuntu community... [09:48] ddaa: Yes, sorry, I did mean to write "mean". I'll poke Jono about this, see what he thinks. [09:48] Thank you. [09:52] we could do that pretty easily [09:53] mrevell, ddaa: there is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat [09:54] ddaa, who's "we"? I claim to know something about the community structure, personally! === Lamego [n=lamego@a81-84-231-49.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #Launchpad [09:54] but generally you want #ubuntu-motu for packaging/Universe, #ubuntu-devel for general development (not support), and #ubuntu for support [09:54] it is my impression that "we", as a team, do not know enough about it. [09:55] we = launchpad developers, collectively [09:55] maybe the issue is more that I do not know who is knowledgeable in the team. [09:55] I dislike blanket statements that seem to suggest that we're disconnected from our users [09:56] and I'm in a terrible mood today [09:56] so beware! === ddaa takes his laptop and hides under the bed [09:57] LaserJock: I find this page somewhat scary === poolie__ [n=mbp@ppp112-44.static.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad [09:58] El Phantasmo and the Chicken-run Blast - Wine, Women and Song Mix by White Zombie from Supersexy Swingin' Sounds [09:58] ! [09:58] ddaa: yeah, you guys might want to have a LP-specific version on your wiki [10:00] the big thing is to not send people to #ubuntu-devel for support or packaging questions [10:00] and to not send people to #ubuntu-motu for generic Ubuntu questions [10:00] Gooooooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders! [10:01] LaserJock: by "generic ubuntu questions" you mean "generic ubuntu user questions"? [10:01] I have some idea of the scope and purpose of #ubuntu. [10:02] ddaa: well, generic development questions perhaps as well [10:03] where should these go, then? [10:03] like the question you got earlier [10:03] BTW, I am not sure what qualifies as "generic development question"... [10:03] well, most likely #ubuntu-devel [10:03] well, MOTU is Universe [10:03] so if somebody is asking about something in Main then it should go to #ubuntu-devel [10:04] generally, #ubuntu-motu is Universe+packaging [10:04] okay, so we can use #ubuntu-devel as our main hub, except for users requesting help about ubuntu usage and generic packaging? [10:04] that'll probably work === mikeos [n=mikeos@80.95.251.10] has joined #launchpad [10:04] the problem is that generally #ubuntu-motu is a bit ... softer than #ubuntu-devel [10:05] what sort of "softer"? [10:05] not so harsh [10:06] but really #ubuntu-motu shouldn't have to field all questions [10:06] right, I am a bit hesitant to send to send enthusiastic yet probably inexperienced people there [10:06] yeah, I know what you mean [10:07] it's also not great for people to get bounced around IRC channels :-) [10:08] wow, already 70 PPAs [10:08] that's why I asked mrevell. But seen we will have the Word From The Chin. [10:08] s/seen/soon/ [10:08] shesh, geser's got 302 binaries === jamesh [n=james@203.59.139.14] has joined #launchpad [10:08] LaserJock: i'm wondering, what's the biggest ppa? [10:09] depends on what you are measuring [10:09] size in bytes? ;) [10:09] hmm, don't know that [10:10] ah, k [10:10] geser's got the most binaries [10:10] mine is around 2 GiB right now because old stuff is not automatically purged yet === gungne [n=arne@ti541210a080-6136.bb.online.no] has joined #launchpad [10:10] ~kubuntu-members has got the most source packages [10:10] I could totally bloat mine up [10:11] I was going to do some TeX stuff [10:11] that's around ~700MB per upload [10:11] Maybe we should not have this sort of "mine is bigger than yours" contest? [10:11] what? no karma for PPA uploads? :-) [10:12] no karma for any uploads, period! [10:12] I know, it's been on my Top 5 forever [10:13] let's get PPAs and gutsy out and fix that [10:16] LaserJock: http://ubuntu.joejaxx.org/ must be sufficient till we get karma for uploads [10:19] geser: btw updating that now :D [10:21] geser: works fine for you, you're on the list [10:21] geser: it's just depressing for me ;-) === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #launchpad [10:22] joejaxx: iirc you parse the +packages list from LP? is it also counting the ppa uploads which appear also on those pages? [10:22] LaserJock: :) upload more === jordi_ is now known as jordi === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@ubuntu/member/gwaihir] has joined #launchpad === jelmer_ [n=jelmer@157pc196.sshunet.nl] has joined #launchpad === gungne [n=arne@ti541210a080-6136.bb.online.no] has left #launchpad [] === jamesh [n=james@canonical/launchpad/jamesh] has joined #launchpad === tormod [n=tormod@80-219-112-71.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #launchpad [10:46]