[10:20] <mrevell> Morning refrigerators
[10:39] <popey> lo
[10:40] <mrevell> hey popey. I owe you a phone call. I take it day time today isn't good for you, though.
[10:41] <popey> you do?
[10:41] <popey> today is fine
[10:42] <mrevell> popey: I think so, about screencast week.
[10:42] <mrevell> popey: When's a good time for you?
[10:42] <popey> any time
[10:42] <popey> now
[10:42] <mrevell> Cool, mobile?
[10:42] <popey> yup
[10:42] <popey> if that's okay
[10:43] <mrevell> It's bonza
[06:21] <mrevell> Anyone around to approve a story for me?
[06:21] <beuno> mrevell, sure, I'll take a look at the queue now
[06:21] <mrevell> beuno: Oops, hang on, I need to submit it. Thanks tho :)
[06:21] <mrevell> beuno: Okay, go for it :)
[06:22] <mrevell> haha :)
[06:23] <beuno> mrevell, seems a bit odd, did you submit it as an event?
[06:24] <beuno> because it seems to be already published, and as an event  :D
[06:24] <mrevell> beuno: Hmm, odd. I clicked "Add to moderation queue"!
[06:24] <mrevell> Oh well :(
[06:24] <mrevell> Is there anything you'd change? If so, I'll quickly unpublish it.
[06:25] <beuno> mrevell, seems fine to me
[06:25] <mrevell> beuno: Thanks. I'll mail the list to explain why it went straight to live.
[06:26] <beuno> sure, not big deal, you clicked on moderation, but also, published
[06:26] <beuno> so I guess drupal sends it
[06:26] <beuno> (events are published by default)
[06:26] <mrevell> beuno: Yeah, I thought that if you selected to have it in the mod queue it would hold it back. I'll know for next time.
[06:28] <beuno> mrevell, no big deal, the fridge needs some lovin' anyway
[06:28] <mrevell> I'm full o' lovin'.
[06:29] <beuno> heh, :p
[11:24] <Rinchen> beuno, mdke, mrevell, popey sladen - this means you too :-)  ^^
[11:25] <popey> ooo
[11:26] <Rinchen> hmm I sent it 22 minutes ago
[11:26] <beuno> Rinchen, I just answered  :D
[11:26] <Rinchen> Thanks!
[11:27] <popey> ooooh to the _list_ :)
[11:34] <beuno> mdke, you don't happen to be around, do you?
[11:34] <mdke> yep
[11:35] <beuno> great :D
[11:35] <beuno> I got an email confirming the setup of the ubunti-news-team ML
[11:35] <beuno> so that basically brings the issue back to the table if we want that or not
[11:35] <mdke> hmm
[11:36] <beuno> (I had the impulsively requested with Corey before the ML discusion)
[11:36] <mdke> I remember yeah
[11:36] <mdke> the idea was to merge the fridge-devel list with a news-submissions list or something wasn't it, and we hadn't decided whether to also merge the marketing-submissions list
[11:37] <mdke> ?
[11:37] <beuno> I'm not even sure anymore, I think we wanted to have 1 places where to discuss UWN/FullCircle/Fridge
[11:38] <beuno> and one list for submissions for news and one for marketing
[11:38] <mdke> I certainly don't think the list for discussing and submitting news should be different
[11:39] <mdke> one should be enough, I think
[11:40] <beuno> sure, I don't remember why that came up, something about spam
[11:40] <mdke> yes, although I don't buy that
[11:40] <mdke> especially because if you go with the argument that a list needs to be open for submitting news, you get the spam anyway
[11:41] <mdke> but that can be sorted out by having frequent moderators. I have to say gmail filters all my spam fine, as did spamassassin
[11:42] <beuno> yeap, I agree
[11:42] <mdke> if spam is a concern, I bet we can find enough moderators
[11:42] <mdke> I think basically we should proceed like this
[11:43] <mdke> 1. discuss the issue again so that everyone is ready / happy with a single list to discuss those things
[11:43] <popey> o/ volunteer moderator
[11:43] <mdke> 2. discuss the issue about team structure which I was concerned about: we can't just lump all the projects into a single team because we will lose project workflows which are vitally important
[11:43] <popey> :)
[11:44] <popey> (nice suit in those wedding photos by the way mdke )
[11:44] <mdke> thanks dude, it's shiny yeah
[11:45] <mdke> beuno: for the record i'd be totally happy with an ubuntu-news umbrella team which was made up only of other teams (ubuntu-fridge, uwn etc)
[11:45] <mdke> but without individual members
[11:45] <mdke> but lets see what others think
[11:47] <beuno> mdke, agreed. We should continue this on the mailing list
[11:48] <beuno> my only concerne right now is that -marketing seems to be pretty much dead
[11:48] <mdke> -marketing-submissions or -marketing?
[11:48] <beuno> the team in general
[11:48] <mdke> well, that's a separate issue
[11:48] <mdke> marketing isn't news
[11:49] <beuno> if we take away UWN, Fridge and Fullcircle, we might end up with 2 emails on the ML per month  :/
[11:49] <mdke> I'm sure that they will pick up again now the summer is over :)
[11:49] <mdke> beuno: that's ok, more energy left for real marketing
[11:49] <beuno> seems fair, they're not necessarily related, just popped into my head  :D
[11:49] <beuno> mdke, ok, cool
[11:50] <beuno> I'll be happy to coordinate the -news team as it seems I'm in the middle of most things at the moment, so I'll try and state that in the ML too
[11:51] <mdke> :)
[11:53] <mdke> presumably lists are quite easy to merge/rename from a technical point of view?
[11:53] <popey> the subscribers are
[11:53] <popey> the historical content isnt
[11:53] <popey> (the archive)
[11:53] <mdke> right
[12:01] <beuno> time to run, bbl