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ScorpKingbigleon_: i just wanna send some of these guys there. it might help them a lot. lol12:38
tininthanx, BluesKaj for something to start12:39
rustalotalso, apt-get update times out wile getting a gpg key12:39
bigleon_Rask330 Make sure you have all updates, then do a goggle search on your sound card model, and you should be able to find some information to help.12:39
hitmanWillylnx_, ok, go into settings -> peripherals -> display12:39
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bigleon_+12:39
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Rask330bigleon_:  All updates as in apt-get update/apt-get upgrade?12:40
rustalotthe apt-get update part12:40
bigleon_Search " Kubuntu *soundcard model*"12:40
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bigleon_Usually with in 5 first results on google you'll find some usefull information, and if that fails check the Kubuntu database12:41
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rustalotCould not connect to ca.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (206.167.141.10), connection timed out12:41
hitmanWillylnx_, any luck?12:41
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bigleon_rustalot: make sure internet connection is working then try again.12:41
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henrik_sorry to bother you, but my graphics driver has gone nuts! I can only see things in 640x480, and i dont know what to do! Ive got a nVidia card if that helps.12:41
lnx_hitmanWilly , my system is not in english , and i didnt find it , you mean "system settings" ?12:42
bigleon_!find Nvidia12:42
rustalotit's working fine12:42
UbotuFound: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-386, linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-generic, nvidia-kernel-common, nvidia-settings, nvidia-xconfig (and 14 others)12:42
rustalotI'm talking to you guys12:42
hitmanWillylnx_, actually, alt-f2, then run kcontrol12:42
bigleon_!nvidia-xconfig | henrik_12:42
UbotuSorry, I don't know anything about nvidia-xconfig - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:42
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hitmanWillylnx_, then go under peripherals -> display -> screen size12:43
cash!HP12:43
UbotuSorry, I don't know anything about hp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:43
bigleon_Well Henrik even though bot hates me, I can tell you its with your x-config settings, so try and google that and see what others with same problem have come up with12:43
hitmanWillylnx_, translating into your native language as appropriate :)12:43
cash!Hewlet Packard12:43
UbotuSorry, I don't know anything about hewlet packard - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:43
BluesKaj!nvidia | henrik_12:43
Ubotuhenrik_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:43
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hitmanWillylnx_, i'd help in your language, but I only speak english, and badly at that :)12:45
rustalotI think the ca.archive.ubuntu.com server is down12:45
bigleon_hitmanWilly hahaha12:45
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bigleon_rustalot did you trya ping?12:45
lnx_hitmanWilly , np iwill find it12:45
rustalotyeah, it doesn't respond12:45
henrik_say it says i got my nvidia drivers installed, but i still cant make it any larger than 640x480. :/ iguess i have to rewrite that xorg.conf file... right?12:45
bigleon_Yeah i'm pinging it too i'm not getting anything either12:45
bigleon_Correct henrik_12:45
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hitmanWillylnx_, also, you may want to check "Apply settings on startup"12:46
rustalotbigleon_:71 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 70021ms12:46
BluesKajyeah, rustalot afraid so ...been trying to update for the last hr or so ...it's stuck12:46
henrik_bigleon_ thanks, i'll look it up!12:46
bigleon_try a different archive server12:46
rustalothow do I do that?12:46
bigleon_rustalot to be honest i'm not sure, but i think there is more than one isn't there?12:46
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cashIm so sorry for stupid question ,how to register here/12:47
hitmanWillycash, /msg nickserv register help12:47
BluesKaj!register | cash12:47
bigleon_i registered my old account and forgot it's password lmao, so i'm not gonna regi again XD12:47
Ubotucash: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration12:47
cashthanks too ALL12:47
BluesKajerr cash-register ? :)12:48
bigleon_Lmao Blueskag12:48
bigleon_kaj**12:48
hitmanWillybigleon_, if it hasn't been used in a long time, you may be able to get it back12:48
bigleon_well i tried to log in with plain Bigleon and it says me name is taken12:48
lnx_hitmanWilly , i have found it but generaly i cant have asetting tool for the video card and the driver ( like when i install video card with envy ) ?12:49
bigleon_and with my luck with kon, i'm not going to reconnect for a nick... frankly i'll live with bigleon_12:49
hitmanWillybigleon_, i think you have to contact the freenode people12:49
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cashBluesKaj yes ) need to change name ? ))12:49
BluesKajno cash, it was ajoke12:49
hitmanWillylnx_, nvidia-settings may be what you want...however, that will change the screen res, at least going down :)12:50
cashBluesKaj oh ))12:50
hitmanWillylnx_, that tool is just for kde too, by the way12:50
rustalotbtw, is there a tool to easily configure dual monitors?12:50
hitmanWillylnx_, the only other way i know of is manually editing xorg.conf12:50
ScorpKingbigleon_: if u registred with a email you'll be able to recover ur passwd12:51
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lnx_yes i know i hate to manually edit12:51
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codyhello all12:52
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codyim having some issues12:52
hitmanWillylnx_, that tool also will only go with video modes defined in xorg.conf, so if you want to use one that's not listed, you still have to edit the config file12:52
slughello, i have a problem with the livecd for kubutnu...and ubuntu12:52
Bigleonhmm12:52
BigleonI think it worked12:53
Bigleonnope12:53
codythe drivers for my linksys wireless g card seem to not be working -_-12:53
codyand i do believe they are the correct ones12:53
hitmanWillyBigleon, well, im seeing you :)12:53
BluesKajlooks like success , Bigleon12:53
Bigleonwell it says my nick is registered12:54
Bigleonand i can't seem to guess my pass XD12:54
Bigleoni don't know if it's going to kick me or what if i keep failing12:54
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BigleonHAHAH12:54
Bigleonguessed it12:54
BluesKajBigleon, you in canucksville too ?12:54
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Bigleoncanucksville?12:54
thomas1I have a question: I want to be able to have a secure remote connection to my comptuer when I'm not at home. Should I use Samba or some other method?12:55
BluesKajyeah, Canada12:55
BigleonNope, Emporia Kansas12:55
slughello, i have a problem with the livecd for kubutnu...and ubuntu12:55
BigleonEnjoying my college years12:55
Bigleonwell if you'll call it that12:55
MGYes, slug, what is your problem12:55
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BigleonPeople are so quick to describing their problems12:56
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thomas1I described my question12:56
BluesKajok Bigleon , your whois reminds me of the large french populus here12:57
Bigleonmy whois?12:57
cash_Again have a question )))12:57
Bigleonshoot cash12:57
cash_=))12:57
Bigleoni'm just looked at my whois, who does that remind you of french people12:57
Bigleonyou mean my last name?12:57
BigleonI'm actually German12:58
slugMG, when i go to load the livecd for either kununtu or ubnutu on my laptop, i can never get to a working desktop, it always seems to stall and show only parts of the gui and i can't do anything.12:58
thomas1I have a question: I want to be able to have a secure remote connection to my comptuer when I'm not at home. Should I use Samba or some other method?12:58
BigleonSlug, what verison are you using for your live CD12:58
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slugMG, but when i go and load another distro's livecd i don't have any issues12:58
BluesKajpass your cursor over your nick in the nicklist ...Dupuis is quite French12:58
BigleonThomas1 I used Krdc12:58
slug7.0412:58
newsenseslug: i hade same problem and got an iso off kbuntus site12:58
thomas1Bigleon: ok i'll find out what that is but samba no good?12:59
BigleonYeah, family  name from my fathers side, idk.. werid... but i'm not french at all12:59
slugi'm trying to boot from pressed cds that i got from shipit12:59
newsenseslug:some kind of iso for slow machines12:59
Biovoremd5sum your cd's before using them..12:59
BigleonThomas1 i just use KRDC it works and it's password secure12:59
slugnewsense, the machine is a p412:59
cash_I was install kubuntu on the laptop , was set resolution 1280x800 ,and fonts from ms windows.But I my eyes is tired =( how I can check maybe settings ,ot where I can find the normal settings .COuze it is reallly danger for my health12:59
thomas1Bigleon: you know what samba is right?12:59
Bigleoncash_ to be honest, i don't think yoru health is such a danger, but you config12:59
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Bigleonthomas1 i remeber reading about it on something today. you talking about remote connecting...01:00
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Bigleoni think01:00
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ScorpKingif i have a vnc server running on xp but the firewall only have port 22 open on the router to a linux server on the internal network, is there a way i can connect to it?01:00
BigleonI use tightvnc on my windows, and it works well with KRDC both ways01:01
cash_Bigleon ,Issue or problem .dint know how to say right .really exist =(( \01:01
Bigleoncash_ at any rate check ur Xconfig01:02
slugBigleon, the cds i'm using are from 7.0401:02
MGslug: how much memory does your computer have?01:02
Bigleonslug, if they aren't working IDK what to tell you make sure your disk aren't cracked or scracthed severly or something.01:02
slugMG, 25601:02
Bigleonhaha01:02
Bigleonyeah you need more memory01:02
Biovore^ thats your problem01:02
Bigleonatleast 51201:02
Biovore386 is min01:03
Biovore384 MB01:03
Bigleoni use 2048 :D01:03
slugBigleon, they're brand new disks used only when i went to install last night01:03
Biovorelive cd will not run on 256 MB of ram01:03
Bigleonslug yeah you need way more ram, i think dapper verison will worth with about 256mb01:03
Biovorethats why its taking for ever01:03
thomas1Bigleon: No I want to connect from a windows machine to my linux machine01:03
Biovoreslug: you probably don't want to run the fancy graphical desktops with only 256 MB ram..01:04
slugBigleon, is there a way to just install it right off the livecd without the gui part then01:04
hitmanWillyslug, the alt cd uses a lot less, IIRC01:04
thomas1Bigleon: to download files01:04
Bigleonthomas1 Okay what i use, is tightvnc on my windows machine, (newest ver) and start KRFD on my linux machine01:04
codygrrr01:04
codygeting drivers for wireless installed is a pain in the ass01:04
cash_Bigleon but with what document or example I can compare01:04
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Bigleoncash_ thats a google away01:04
cash_k01:04
hitmanWillycody, depends on the card :P01:04
Biovoreintel wireless = easy01:05
codylinksys wireless g01:05
Bigleoncody it's okay kubuntu hates all of my Wireless cards01:05
Biovorebroadcom == gay01:05
nicioTm_T: tanks honey ;)01:05
codymhmm01:05
niciolol01:05
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Biovorendiswrapper == gayest idea ever..01:05
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cody..01:05
codycha01:05
codyhopefully this last driver worked01:05
BigleonBiovore i hate ndiswrapper too01:05
BiovoreBut it works.. just a pain01:05
Tm_Tnicio thanks what?01:06
BigleonBiovore atleast it worked01:06
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BigleonBiovore my wireless is still giving me the big FU01:06
Biovorenothing like porting broadcom windows driver bugs to linux.. :-P01:06
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ScorpKinghi xp_killer01:06
Tm_Tactually, your bans are still valid01:06
Bigleonso does xp_killer kill the faces with X eyes sticking their tounges out?01:06
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slugok thanks guys, i'll try the alt cd01:07
Bigleoncause thats not very nice i love those faces01:07
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xp_killerBigleon: much worst01:07
codysegihs;iubvs;iur;sdufbh;zdkjfbh;Z01:07
xp_killerhihi01:07
codyit hates me -_-01:07
xp_killerwhy?01:07
Bigleoncody it hates me more, just remeber that.01:07
codyits not connecting01:07
riccardoyeah01:07
BluesKajhe insists on keeping that silly nick , Bigleon01:07
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codyiv tried 3 sets of drivers and none work01:08
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BigleonBluesKaj to be honest Bigleon isn't exactly a prime nic either.01:08
xp_killercody: wat isnt conecting?01:08
Bigleonxp_killer his wireless01:08
codyMy linksys wireless g to my linksys router in the livingroom01:08
xp_killerTm_T: im know for my behavior lol q_p01:09
codyndiswrapper says device is presant01:09
BluesKajno matter , we're not out to :bash" windows here ...we just want our linux fix01:09
hitmanWillyBluesKaj, yell at broadcom then :P01:09
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Bigleonwhat about Mac can we bash Macintosh?01:09
codyhow doi changeESSID in konsole01:10
hitmanWillyBigleon, you mean BSD for dummies? lol01:10
MGa macinitosh is a wonderful machine if you don01:10
BigleonLmao hitmanWilly wow i really Lol'ed on that.01:10
MG't mind paying01:10
MG$5000 for a $1000 computer01:10
BigleonMG i'd rather use windows 95 than any Mac Computer any day.01:10
BluesKaj<--- doesn't do wireless ... always believed in wires for solid connections01:10
codyhow do i change ESSID in konsole01:10
Daisuke_Idoi considered buying a macbook, but what's the use if i'm just going to run ubuntu anyway?01:10
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BigleonI like dell, ya know, get a very nice warranty and put linux on it.01:11
Bigleoncurrently i still need to go pick up a replacement part sitting in mailroom i'm to lazy to run and get.01:11
tazgodxanyone know a good Java IDE for linux?01:11
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dwidmann|terraBigleon: smarter to not get a warranty, then when they  try to hassle you into getting one you can get a steep discount on it01:11
Bigleoncody You should be able to change in your wireless settings.01:11
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hitmanWillytazgodx, well, there's eclipse01:11
BluesKajjava IDE ?01:12
dwidmann|terranetbeans?01:12
Bigleondwidmann|terra well, I got it paid for of a state account where 3 years were free :D01:12
codyBigleon: I know but when i type iwconfig it shows ESSID as blank01:12
Rask330BluesKaj / Bigleon:  Problem solved.  Motherboard had some jumpers set incorrectly.  I feel sillyish.  X)01:12
Bigleoncody, what manager are you using for your wireless?01:12
Bigleonrask330 Lmao, well good you figured it out Rask01:12
tazgodxill check out eclipse, thanks01:13
codyNetworkManager Applet 0.6.401:13
Daisuke_Idoeclipse is great, jbuilder has a linux version if you're rich.01:13
BluesKajRask330, glad to "hear" it :)01:13
Daisuke_Ido(but jbuilder 2007 is built on eclipse anyway, so...)01:13
BigleonDaisuke_Ido for whats expensive there is a isohunt free alternative :P01:13
Rask330One last question, though-- is there a way to set kmix to its default settings, before I started throwing everything every which-way?01:13
Daisuke_IdoBigleon: HAH!01:13
BigleonRask330 you could always just reinstall it01:13
Daisuke_Idothat's all i have to say to that.01:14
Daisuke_Idoi have to have jbuilder for school01:14
codyim fu&*ed01:14
Daisuke_Idoso i went looking for the linux version01:14
BluesKajRask330, kmix doesn't have defaults01:14
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Rask330Does the mixer?01:14
Tm_TBluesKaj: pm me thanks01:14
Daisuke_Idoi ended up installing xp in vmware (although now that i've got virtualization enabled, i might try kvm)01:15
BigleonDaisuke_Ido well isohunt is nice cause even has shit you've never heard of free. It's where i got my Vista Utimate.. thank a higher power i didn't pay for that XD01:15
MGUse Menubar -> Settings -> Configure KMix.\01:15
hitmanWillyRask330, yeah, everything muted and all the way down :P01:15
MGRestore volumes on login01:15
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Rask330Excellent. :o01:16
Rask330Well, thanks, everyone. x301:16
codyBigleon:  any ideas?01:16
Daisuke_Idonice thing is i had a legit copy of xp lying around01:16
Bigleoncody on you being fu&*ed no..01:16
cody-_- on helping me fix it01:17
kelvie_is it not possible to run a sh script from konqueror by double clicking on it?01:17
BigleonDaisuke_Ido I got a OEM for dell and compaq :D01:17
kelvie_or rather, single clicking01:17
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Bigleoncody To be honest, my wireless is stil  telling me to Fudge off, so i can't really help you01:18
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Bigleonchecking lag01:20
Bigleonit hink Konversation is hating me again01:20
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DaSkreechTm_T: I missed something? what's the -b for?01:22
BigleonDaSKreech what cilent are you using to connect?01:23
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DaSkreechto?01:24
BigleonIRC01:24
BigleonIT seems like everyone left the room is so quiet.01:24
DaSkreechin general konversation somedays (today) chatzilla On bad days kopete01:24
DaSkreechBigleon: join #ubuntu01:24
DaSkreechcacaphony01:25
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Bigleonor i'm lagging like crazy, lmao.01:25
DaSkreechSorry kakaphony :)01:25
codyYAY01:25
codyI FIGURED IT OUT01:25
BluesKaji prefer konverstion to xchat, but the lack of auto server list bothers me somewhat01:25
DaSkreech!caps | cody01:25
Ubotucody: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.01:25
codySorry -_-01:25
DaSkreechcody: but CONGRATS!!01:25
DaSkreech:-)01:25
hydrogenwhat do you mean by auto server list BluesKaj?01:25
DaSkreechcody: Feels groovy doesn't it?01:26
codyGLee01:26
codyglee01:26
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BigleonCody what did you do01:26
BluesKajhydrogen, no server list included by default01:26
BigleonDaSkreech any reason to join Ubuntu01:26
hydrogenBluesKaj: don't you know what server you are going to connect to already?01:26
codyFound the right driver01:27
codyi was using the v3 of my drived and i needed the v201:27
codythe card i have has 4 versions01:27
codyi ad the wrong driver for my card01:27
BigleonWell cody, seems to be most common problem for wireless cards01:27
BluesKajI used to like to surf IRC , like I used to on mirc in windows ...not so much anymore , but if I do i have to use xchat01:28
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BigleonBlueskaj The trick is to have where you wana be memorized :D01:28
DaSkreechBigleon: Never feel lonely again01:28
DaSkreechit never gets quiet in there01:28
BluesKajyeah, i have a few servers already setup01:29
BluesKajthe heavies like undernet01:29
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DaSkreechBluesKaj: are they a band?01:29
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BluesKajDaSkreech,  big networks = heavies :)01:30
Bigleon:( Konversation is  really hating on   me01:31
BluesKajBigleon, what's the problem?01:31
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DBetaAnyone in here have any mythTV experience?01:33
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NickPrestaDBeta, just ask your MythTV related question. If someone can help you, they will :)01:33
MinatakuWoah... massive Excess Flood... how suspicious is that01:33
Minatakulol01:33
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MinatakuDBeta: Have you tried in #mythtv (if such exists)?01:34
DBetaAhh. Well, seems after attempting to run it, it gives me the "Access denied for user: 'mythtv@localhost'" error in terminal.01:34
DBetaIt might, I probably should have looked.01:34
BluesKajDBeta, a few vey brave and knowledgable souls have a working knowledge ...but we don't get many mythtv questions anymore01:34
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claydohDBeta: there is also #ubuntu-mythtv which is pretty active01:34
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DBetaAhh, that might work better, I'll stop by there.01:34
bobbob1016not sure if this is the right place, but how can I get Amarok to play songs when I double click them, instead of making them a playlist?01:35
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Bigleonwahhh told you knov hates me took for ever to connect01:35
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BluesKajbobbob1016, right click on the song and choose amarok in "open with" , the it will auto open the next time you click on a song01:36
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hydrogenbobbob1016: its not possible01:36
hydrogenbobbob1016: without modifying amarok's source code01:36
bobbob1016I meant when I double click it in Amarok01:36
hydrogenit only happens if the playlist is empty01:37
bobbob1016hydrogen, Oh, damn, because I like everything else about it, the magnatune built in, and the device pickup, just this is annoying, glad it wasn't that I couldn't find it though.  Thanks01:37
codywow01:37
cody6 hours later i get Mint Installed with internet01:38
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hydrogenbobbob1016: you can right click on songs and choose play instead of double clicking01:38
hydrogenits a bit more work but01:38
Bigleon*cries* helllo???01:38
souslHello all, I tried playing MP3, on Amarok, and it says Mp3 not supported. Any suggestions?01:38
hydrogensousl: it should give you a dialog to click01:38
hydrogento install support for mp3's01:39
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hydrogensousl: if it doesn't, sudo apt-get install libxine1-extracodecs01:39
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hydrogenerr01:39
hydrogensousl: if it doesn't, sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs01:39
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souslthank you01:39
DaSkreechBigleon: damn01:40
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souslThank you folks.01:41
souslGood bye.01:41
Bigleontesting one to can people hear me? Konversation is really being mean to me01:42
DaSkreechBigleon: can You hear me?01:42
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codyok i jynxed myself01:50
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codymy interwrbs is not working01:50
codywebs01:50
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codywhen i type iwconfig i have no essid01:51
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DaSkreechcody: try iwlist <device> scan01:51
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codywhat would the device be01:52
BigleonGah01:52
hatterif i want gdm to auto login a user, where do i put the password for that user ?01:52
Bigleoncan people hear me i've been trying to connect for 20 minutes01:52
Bigleonwhy does Konversation hate me so much T_T01:53
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MGI wonder where Bigleon went01:53
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ScorpKingBigleon: u there?01:53
DaSkreechcody: just press tab it will sort it out01:53
codyDaSkreech: would it be eth101:53
codyno results01:54
codygrrrr01:54
codywtf01:54
DaSkreechiwlist <space><tab>01:54
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codymy laptops right next to it and it s connected01:54
BigleonYeah i'm finally back01:54
MGhe was here then he went away01:54
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MGno part message, no nothing01:55
DaSkreechhi Bigleon01:55
BluesKajwhere's Bigleon ?01:55
DaSkreechYou couldn't see anything I was saying?01:55
codynothing01:55
codyNo scan results01:55
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BluesKajjust kidding , Bigleon ..see ya just fine :)01:55
codygrrrr01:56
Tm_TDaSkreech: you're there?01:56
BigleonI think01:57
BigleonOmg01:57
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Bigleoni'm back01:57
Bigleonhow long will this last01:57
Bigleoni'm scared01:57
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Bigleonif you guys get this my msn is bigleon1@gmail.com I need some help fixing my IRC problems01:58
BluesKajdon't see any parts or joins , Bigleon01:58
Tm_Twhat problems?01:58
BigleonI keep disconnecting01:58
Bigleonand reconnecting01:58
Bigleonand it driving me mad01:58
Dr_Willistry a different irc client. check the messages as to when it exits.. could just be lag.01:58
Bigleoni'm on my Kopete and having no connection issues01:58
DaSkreechBigleon: try irssi01:58
DaSkreechor that works01:59
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Dr_Willistesting out jircii right now. :)01:59
BigleonI'm a little kubuntu challanged i don't know my alternatives01:59
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Dr_Willisany that are in the repos can work. :)01:59
Dr_Willis!irc01:59
UbotuA list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines01:59
Dr_Willisirssi bitchx xchat  proberly 6+ others out there01:59
BigleonI'm going to reinstall a fresh install of Kubuntu once i finishdling this live cd02:00
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DaSkreechBigleon: where are you connecting to? irc.ubuntu.com?02:00
kkathmani like kvirc  :)02:00
Bigleoncorrect DaSkreech02:00
kkathmanif you dont like that tabbed irc approach that konversation has, xchat and kvirc are basically your only choices02:01
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Daisuke_Idokonversation's tree is niiiice02:01
BigleonI love Konversation frankly02:01
Bigleonit's better than X-fire or chatzilla02:01
Bigleonbut it's just going crazy today02:01
kkathmani like to see the convo in the channels im in rather than having to switch constantly between them02:02
Bigleonoh i'm having issues with Kopete i can't seem to get my cam to broadcast or view others cam's. (yes my cam works.) they are yahoo and msn users.02:02
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blizzzektest02:02
Bigleonblizzek rodger that :D02:03
Bigleonbrb starting tonights laundry02:04
blizzzeksorry bout that02:04
blizzzeki tried something out i did not know :D02:04
DaSkreechOh that sounds so different in the UK02:04
DaSkreechblizzzek: irssi?02:04
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blizzzekDaSkreech: no, the miracle of /amsg02:04
DaSkreechHa02:04
Tm_TBigleon: you have needed port(s) forwarded and allowed in firewall?02:05
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DaSkreechTm_T: it works of rall clients but konversation02:05
Tm_TDaSkreech: ?02:06
DaSkreechof rall = for all02:06
Tm_TDaSkreech: what works? I was talking about Kopete and webcam issue :)02:06
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DaSkreechOh02:09
DaSkreechdid he install libjasper?02:10
Tm_T?02:10
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ScorpKingwhat programe can i use to edit .ps files?02:13
Dr_Willispostscript files. Hmm02:14
ScorpKingyip02:14
Dr_WillisNot sure. Kno of a lot to view them.. but not sure about editing.02:14
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ScorpKingyeah, i want to make a web based interface to create invoices for me. it will use a .ps file as a template and convert it to pdf but i need to make the template first.02:15
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NickPrestaScorpKing, have you thought about making a PDF template and then editing it via the various libraries available?02:16
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ScorpKingi found theis sed -e "s~FIELD1~$field1~" -e "s~FIELD2~$field2~" < template.ps > $field1.ps02:18
BigleonOMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!02:18
ScorpKingthis*02:18
Bigleon-.-02:18
NickPresta!caps | Bigleon02:18
UbotuBigleon: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.02:18
Bigleonyou guys can understand my frustration eh?02:18
NickPrestaBigleon, if you explained what you problem was instead of shouting, I suppose. :)02:18
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Dr_WillisBigleon not really.02:18
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ScorpKingNickPresta: with the line above it's very easy to just edit a .ps template and use ps2pdf to convert it. unless there is an easier way.02:19
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NickPrestaScorpKing, I'm not sure. I have never used PostScript files for anything really. I have done some template (editing) using a PHP and Python library.02:21
ScorpKingi'll look around on google02:21
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zblachso kicker stays permanently locked. where does it store persistant information>02:34
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ScorpKingNickPresta: the ps file i have was created by AbiWord. :)02:37
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Bigleonhello???????02:38
Bigleonughhhh02:39
NickPresta!hi | Bigleon02:39
UbotuBigleon: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!02:39
Bigleonreally starting to hate konversation02:39
NickPrestaBigleon, welcome to GNU+Linux. You have freedom, and one freedom you have, is the freedom of choice. You can use another IRC client...02:39
hatterwhat do i use to login remotely to another machine with xdmcp ?02:40
DaSkreechNickPresta: bah you lie :)02:40
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Dr_Willishatter you can set up  kdm/xdm/gdm or manually to query/login to the remote box if its running the xdmcp stuff02:42
Dr_Willishatter or under windows - you can install xming.02:42
flaccid!thinclient02:43
UbotuSorry, I don't know anything about thinclient - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:43
hatterDr_Willis, i am logged in to my current box, and my other box is sitting at the gdm login screen,  i am unsure what to run on this box to get a login prompt02:43
hatterDr_Willis, xdmcp is enable , btw02:43
flaccidhatter: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientHowto02:43
Dr_Willishatter you MUST configure the remote box to  allow it. then you can configure gdm to 'query' for remote box's i recall.. or start up X wth the -query option.02:44
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Dr_Willishatter you need a whole remote desktop?02:44
flaccidhatter: you could consider thinclient02:44
hatterDr_Willis, i just want to get past the login screen02:44
Daisuke_Idonx?02:44
Dr_Willisif not you can just 'ssh -X or ssh -Y' to the box and run the apps you need to see locally02:44
flaccidthere is a xdcmp howto as well. still looking02:44
hatteri can use x2x when i manually use startx02:44
Dr_Williswith the xdmcp stuff you would see the remote box's  'login window' on the local machine.02:44
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Dr_Willis!info x2x02:45
Ubotux2x: Link two X displays together, simulating a multiheaded display. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.27.svn.20060501-1 (feisty), package size 20 kB, installed size 76 kB02:45
Dr_Willissounds icky. :)(02:45
flaccidcan't find the xdcmp howto02:45
Dr_WillisI tend to use syngery if i cn see both machines.02:45
hatterDr_Willis, but in a current sesssion, how do i bring up the login box ?02:45
Dr_Willis!xdmcp02:45
Ubotuxdmcp is the X Display Manger Control Protocol -- look at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/ to find out how to configure it02:45
hattersynergy works also, but x2x is fine02:45
hatterhowever, it doesnt work with gdm02:45
flaccidhatter: there is an amazing amount of howtos on google02:45
Dr_Willishatter you dont you do how you are tryign to do it that way.02:45
flaccidhatter: http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=BFG&q=xdmcp+ubuntu&btnG=Search&meta=02:46
ScorpKingDr_Willis: what does ssh -X or -Y do02:46
flaccidhttp://happypixels.ca/2006/03/01/using-xdmcp-with-ubuntu-or-any-other-gdm-running-distro/02:46
Dr_Willisgdm/kdm i recall had a 'query/xdmcp' option that then showed a list of machines.. ya clicked on. and Then it showed the login for that bos locally02:46
Bigleon2hello?02:46
Dr_WillisScorpKing ssh's into the remote box and sets up where you can run apps there.. but see them here. :)02:46
NickPrestahi Bigleon202:46
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ScorpKingDr_Willis: ok, but doesn't plain ssh do that or is that for running X apps?02:47
Dr_Willisdepends. :)02:48
hatterflaccid, thx, i imagine there is a simple app to bring a login screen to an enabled xdmcp puter02:48
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Dr_Willisif it did.. there wouldent be any need for the options.. of course  the admins can set up different defaults for sshd02:48
hatterDr_Willis, that is what i am after, a query screen or a logon02:48
Dr_WillisX -- -query02:48
Dr_Willis:)02:48
Dr_Willisi think02:48
Bigleon2hello, i'm having some  bizzare   issues02:48
hatterssh -X is for running X apps02:48
hatterbut it doesnt let you login in to gdm02:48
flaccidi aint done xdcmp for a long time sorr02:48
Bigleon2holy crap my thing is holding a connection02:48
Dr_Willisflaccid yep. it can be a bit tricky02:49
ScorpKingDr_Willis: ic. thanx :)02:49
flaccidisn't it disabled by default on ubuntu for security..02:49
Dr_WillisI often set my box where i have 2 X's going.. One is the local X. the other is a 'remote xdmcp' X on a remote machine.02:49
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hatteryes its disabled02:49
ScorpKingBigleon2: there are too many of u around. :)02:49
NickPrestaBigleon2, you need to explain in greater detail. "bizarre issues" doesn't help us...02:49
hatterbut when it is enabled02:49
hatteri dont know how to bring the login window to my machine02:49
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Dr_Willisyou dont normally (or can) control a remote box's visible display with xdmcp02:50
flaccidisn't that what the howtos show you to do02:50
BluesKajBigleon2, does you college ISP have IRC "issues"...I've read that some do and try to block IRC clients to prevent dcc02:50
Dr_Willishatter i belive the proper command would be like 'sudo X -- :1 -query' or similer.02:50
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hatterDr_Willis, querey might be it... thx i will check02:51
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tekstacy'lo all02:51
tekstacyAbout how much memory do extra desktops take up?02:52
Bigleon2This is bigleon1 anyone got idea why i kept loosing connection???02:52
BluesKajBigleon2, does you college ISP have IRC "issues"...I've read that some do and try to block IRC clients to prevent dcc02:52
NickPrestatekstacy, I'm not sure I understand. What do you mean by 'other desktops'?02:52
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DaSkreechBluesKaj: It's apparently a Konversation issue02:53
ScorpKingDr_Willis: on a network far away :) i have an.ip.addr.9 tunning vnc-server and only ip.addr.1 can connect. the router only allow an.ip.addr.1 (linux server) connections from the web with ssh. is there a way to get to the vnc box? ssh tunneling maybe?02:53
Dr_Willisaha..02:53
Dr_Willis    To remotely access systems running these display managers you have to run your X server with a command such as:02:53
Dr_Willis        X -broadcast02:53
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ScorpKingrunning*02:53
Dr_WillisScorpKing ssh tunnling can do amazing things.. but ive not used that  stuff much. :(02:53
tekstacyThe "multiple desktop" feature, you can find it under control center > desktop02:53
ScorpKingDr_Willis: is there an easy way or should i just forward a port on the router to the vnc box?02:54
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NickPrestatekstacy, I'm not sure that virtual desktops take up a significant amount of memory. I doubt they take up any extra when they're "empty". You can try running a few tests with `free` and see if you can spot a difference.02:54
Dr_WillisScorpKing no idea.. id say port forward would be the easiest.. but for vnc. you may be MUCH better off doing a ssh tunnle for security02:55
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Dr_WillisVirtual desktops dont take up any extra memory from what ir ecall int he past.02:55
Jucatotekstacy: almost no memory at all. you're already using 2 (or 4) virtual desktops by default02:55
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Dr_Willisthey were common YEARS ago on very very low end (by todays standard) machines.02:55
Bigleon2can someone contact me over msn who knows there way around connection issues? mhy msn is bigleon1@gmail.com i can't seem to hold an irc connection this is bigleon/102:55
Dr_Willisthey may actually just be memorized layouts of how the apps are. :)02:56
DaSkreechYour MSn is gmail.com ?02:56
DaSkreechthat's impressive02:56
Dr_Willisnot sure if they are actually virtual in the sence that you can have large scrolling desktops..02:56
ScorpKingDr_Willis: yeah, that's why i only allowed connections from the ssh box on it. i think i 'm gonna look at tunneling. thanks02:56
NickPrestaDaSkreech, his .NET passport account is, which is used to sign onto the MSN protocol :P02:56
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ScorpKinglol02:56
tekstacyCool, Thanks.02:56
DaSkreechThat's impressive :)02:57
Bigleon2Yeah, as you can see i'm rnning 3 window s trying to connect yet my i-net and everythign else seems to work fine02:57
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Jucatotekstacy: "virtual desktops" are virtual, a.k.a. fake. so you're not really running another real duplicate desktop02:57
tekstacyCool. Still learning here.02:57
Bigleon2my 7.04 is having more issues holding connection than my 6.06 on a laptoop though funnyily enough02:57
ScorpKingBigleon2: what connection do you have? also, any local dhcp servers?02:58
Bigleon2I'm running on a COllege network02:58
Bigleon2not to sure about infantstructure beyond my room02:58
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ScorpKingsounds like fun. not sure what u can do. :(02:59
[ifr0g] hi..02:59
Bigleon2it was working fine ealier and this after everything i-net has been going to hell in a hand basket idk why02:59
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tekstacyget a 6-pack and bribe a comp student to look at it03:00
=== ScorpKing need some sleep...
ScorpKingcheers everyone!03:00
tekstacyScorpKing, G'night03:00
tekstacy:(03:00
Bigleon2is it possible that it's konversations falt?03:01
Bigleon2gah03:02
Bigleon2*check 1-2*03:02
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Bigleon2brb03:02
tekstacyI can't explain this but XP running under virtualbox on Kubuntu 7.04 seems to run better then when it was the main OS03:02
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DaSkreechtekstacy: it's the fisherprice close buttons I'm telling you!!!03:03
tekstacyI'm glad I made it work, I missed the dancing paperclip.....03:04
Dr_Willistekstacy better filesystem under neeth. :)03:04
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tekstacyWhatever it is, I'll take it...03:05
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tekstacyUm, what is the hot-key to switch desktops?03:10
Dr_Willisi alwyas use the mouse wheel. :)03:10
Jucatotekstacy: Ctrl+F1 to F4, or Ctrl+Tab, but this last one is disabled in Kubuntu (don't know why)03:10
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thomas1OK I installed proftpd on my computer but I'm having trouble starting to run it03:11
DaSkreechtekstacy: install vigor03:11
tekstacyCol, thx. I'm usually too cluttered to use the wheel03:11
tekstacyWhat does it do?03:11
DaSkreechJucato: d00d!03:11
Dr_Willisswitchges desktop. :)03:11
Jucato!info vigor03:12
Ubotuvigor: nvi with the evil paperclip. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.016-8 (feisty), package size 261 kB, installed size 680 kB03:12
Dr_Willisit may need to be enabled.03:12
JucatoDaSkreech: k00d!03:12
tekstacyYES!03:12
Dr_Willisvigor = from the 'user friendly' comic strip. :)03:12
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tekstacyBigleon, try stealing someone else's wireless. Their connection may be better.03:13
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thomas1OK I installed proftpd on my computer but I'm having trouble starting to run it03:14
DaSkreechtekstacy: he only gets kicked from oknversation03:14
DaSkreechkon03:14
Bigleon203:14
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tekstacyoh03:15
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tekstacyWell, I still reccomend steal someone else's internet. He's a collge kid, that's what they do03:15
thomas1does anyone know what "proftpd" is?03:15
Dr_Willisa ftp client.03:16
Dr_Willisoops server. :)03:16
dangaiothomas, it's the pro ftp daemon.03:16
Dr_Willis:P03:16
thomas1yea ok lol I installed it but I don't know how to START IT or where I installed the documentation03:16
Dr_Willisfind its homepage?03:16
Dr_Willisit proberly has a entry in the /etc/init.d/ dirs.. for starting03:16
DaSkreechthomas1: probably started already03:16
thomas1Dr_Willis: it just installed through adept installer, but how do I know where it goes? or where the documentation installeD?03:17
flaccidthomas1: google is only a step away03:17
Dr_Willisall docs are normally in /usr/share/doc (i think)03:17
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Dr_Willisuse the package manager and LOOK at teh files in the package. :)03:17
BluesKajkonversation has his name registered under a different password, hence the constant kicking03:17
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Jucatoso why not change the password?03:17
Dr_Willispackage details. or somthing like that. :)03:17
BluesKajnickserv on konversation that is03:17
thomas1Dr_Willis: hmmm ok03:17
Doctor_Nickno03:18
Dr_Willisman proftpd   for a start also.03:18
dangaiothomas1, you can also type whereis proftpd and it should tell you where the file is located, and any variations of the filename.03:18
BluesKajonce one loses aconnect without the part or quit command it's very difficult to get back on freenode in konversation03:18
Bigleon2going to go cccrrrazy -.-03:18
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thomas1dangaio: wow cool let me try03:19
DaSkreechBigleon2: change your password03:20
Bigleon2it's very hard to get on it period...03:21
JucatoBigleon2: you are identifying to a wrong password? is that why you're being disconnected?03:21
Dr_Willismanually identify real fast. :)03:22
Bigleon2daskreech why am i changing my password? I can't even stay connected03:22
DaSkreechBigleon2: that mmight be what's kicking you03:22
Bigleon2no, this account isn't even registered03:22
Dr_WillisTry connecting with a different Nickname. :)03:22
DaSkreechaccording to Dr_Willis03:22
Dr_Willisoh there goes that logic.03:22
Jucato <BluesKaj> konversation has his name registered under a different password, hence the constant kicking03:22
mneptokthomas1: why FTP?03:23
Bigleon2this is actually running on another comp on live cd03:23
mneptokthomas1: SFTP is far easier, and far more secure.03:23
dangaiogot to go. I am about to take an Introduction to Unix final test.03:23
dangaioI hate that class.03:23
thomas1mneptok: All I wanted to do is get a way to connect to my computer remotely on windows machines03:23
mneptokthomas1: SFTP03:23
thomas1mneptok: or download files03:23
thomas1mneptok: whats wrong with ftp03:24
mneptokthomas1: sudo apt-get install openssh-server03:24
Bigleon2i'm sooo irritated with linux today03:24
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mneptokthomas1: it's a cleartext protocol?03:24
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thomas1mneptok: dont' know what that is03:24
mneptokthomas1: it's Very Bad(tm)03:24
mneptokthomas1: sudo apt-get install openssh-server03:24
thomas1secure shell03:25
thomas1right?03:25
Dr_Willisftp should be put to rest. :)03:25
mneptokthen use Filezilla on Windows to connect03:25
Dr_Willislong live ssh03:25
mneptokthomas1: correct03:25
_2thomas1: sudo apt-get install ssh03:25
mneptok_2: no.03:25
thomas1mneptok: but ssh still uses ftp03:25
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mneptokthomas1: sudo apt-get install openssh-server03:25
Dr_Willis!info ssh03:25
Ubotussh: Secure shell client and server (transitional package). In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.3p2-8ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1 kB, installed size 32 kB03:25
thomas1ssh is just a program thingy right03:25
Dr_Willis!ssh03:25
UbotuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/03:25
_2mneptok ?03:25
mneptokthomas1: FTP and SFTP are related only in name03:26
Dr_Willisisent EVEYRTHING  'just a program thinggy' ?03:26
thomas1Dr_Willis: lol you03:26
mneptok_2: openssh-server is the correct package :)03:26
_2mneptok ssh is a meta package that depends on openssh-server openssh-client03:26
Dr_Willisi always install the 'ssh' package.. since i want both. :)03:26
_2me too03:26
mneptok_2: and there's no reason for a metapackage. openssh-server is all he needs.03:27
thomas1mneptok: should I install the package? and the main reason to get sftp is that ftp is bad security?03:27
_2updates are a good reason for the meta package03:27
Dr_Willisunless he wants to ssh in, then ssh out...03:27
_2mneptok ^03:27
Dr_Willisthen ssh back.. in a loop! :)03:27
mneptok_2: the client is installed by default03:27
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mneptok_2: the server is not.03:28
_2mneptok and ?03:28
Bigleon2question, how do i get kopete to show my cam to msn/yim users?03:28
mneptok_2: the "ssh" package installs only openssh-server on a default install.03:28
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thomas1mneptok: sftp > ftp because more security only??????????03:28
mneptok_2: so it's better ro point users to the package they actually need. rather than a metapackage with 50% redudnat contents.03:29
_2mneptok ok by your logic,  we should never sujest to anyone that they install *buntu-desktop   cause it's only a meta package03:29
Dr_Willisssh can do so many neat tricks.. its amazing.03:29
mneptok*redundant03:29
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mneptok_2: that's rediuctio ad absurdum03:29
mneptok-i03:29
_2mneptok that's enough.   i'm finished arguing with you.   thanks.03:29
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thomas1mneptok: so i already installed proftpd through package manager, HOW DO I KNOW IF ITS RUNNING?!!?!03:30
Dr_Willisthomas1 try to ftp in?03:30
Dr_Willisftp localhost03:31
mneptokps aux ?03:31
mneptoktelnet localhost 21 ?03:31
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mneptok(hint: if you don't know how to use ps, you should not be running public-facing servers) ;)03:32
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thomas1Dr_Willis: I don't think it will connect03:33
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thomas1mneptok: so I should uninstall proftpd?03:33
mneptokthomas1: personally, i would03:33
thomas1mneptok: roger03:33
mneptokthomas1: you're much better off with SFTP03:34
mneptokit Just Works. and offers far better security.03:34
_2thomas1 or configure it to only allow lan connections03:34
thomas1mneptok: ok I will have to find out soon, and if I'm not pleased, I"m coming back and bitch to you :D03:34
thomas1mneptok: lol i'm kidding thanks guys, off to work I go03:34
mneptokthomas1: Filezilla on Windows will connect via SFTP03:34
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thomas1mneptok: wtf filezilla lol03:35
mneptokwhat Windows FTP client do you use?03:35
_2heh  windows03:35
thomas1mneptok: i need a client on a comp? or I can't use browser/command prompt?03:35
DaSkreechthomas1: What do you use to connect via sftp on windows ?03:35
mneptokthomas1: say ProFTPd was morking. what would you use on Windows to connect?03:35
mneptok*working03:35
thomas1DaSkreech: i would like to connect from anyones machine03:35
DaSkreechrun a web server03:36
Dr_Willisi like winscp03:36
thomas1mneptok: I would like to use something easily accessible at anyones home computer03:36
DaSkreechWith a password03:36
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Dr_Willis:)03:36
thomas1DaSkreech: yea03:36
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_2thomas1 ssh03:37
Dr_Willisi use ssh + winscp for my windows box's to let them get stuff off the linxu boxs03:37
Dr_Willisbbl03:37
thomas1Dr_Willis:03:37
thomas1Dr_Willis: why don't u just do it through ur hard drive03:37
mneptokthomas1: keep the Filezilla installer on a flash drive.03:38
mneptokhttp://filezilla.sf.net03:38
_2or maybe he's not a mozilla fan...03:39
thomas1mneptok: sigh........03:39
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thomas1mneptok: isn't it easier to use browser/command prompt03:39
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mneptokthomas1: most browsers don't do SFTP03:39
mneptokthomas1: and Windows' idea of CLI tools is laughable03:40
FlatfenderI'm having a problem with a flash drive. When I plug the drive it Kubuntu doesn't detect it?03:40
mneptokFlatfender: FAT32?03:40
DaSkreechmneptok: it ships with pretty good tools03:40
mneptokDaSkreech: what's the SCP/SFTP client?03:40
bob1nzhey im having a bit of trouble tuning my tv tuner card  through myth tv in linux mce03:40
FlatfenderI don't know what it is. I didn't realize that I even had used it before03:40
sea4everrestart the PC with the flash drive in03:40
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Bigleon2ummm so i just royally fudged up kopete when one of prtocols like crashed it... umm how can i uninstall it so i can reinstall03:41
tekstacyGoodnight all03:41
FlatfenderShould I plug it into a Windows box and format to ntfs or something?03:41
sea4everno, jsut restart,03:41
thomas1mneptok: do you see my point though.....I wanna go to a strangers house and be able to access it easily....can't I do it through browser or command promopt?03:41
mneptokthomas1: what's the SCP/SFTP client?03:42
thomas1huh03:42
thomas1mneptok: ?03:42
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mneptokthomas1: you want it to be easy. you probably also don't want Ivan Guyrsheykenko from the Ukrainian mob to connect. pick one.03:43
mneptokthomas1: "I want to be able to click once with my mouse and it does everything but magically it should not let bad people do anything."03:43
mneptok^^ Windows thinking ^^03:43
mneptokso, what's the greater concern? ease of use or security?03:44
thomas1mneptok: YEA GO WINDOWS! WINDOWS RULES!03:44
thomas1mneptok: so I have to carry a memory stick with me03:44
thomas1mneptok: and install a program every time on someones computer?03:45
mneptokthomas1: or download and install an SFTP client when you need one.03:45
Flatfendermneptok, it doesn't seem to matter if its NTFS FAT or FAT 32, I can't find it03:45
mneptokthomas1: Ubuntu can connect to SFTP servers with built in tools. Windows cannot.03:45
thomas1mneptok: right so indeedy i would need to install software on someones comp03:45
thomas1mneptok: windows sucks?03:45
DaSkreechBigleon2: Which one crashed?03:46
mneptokthomas1: that's far less risky than putting all your data behind a cleartext password.03:46
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thomas1i guess03:46
thomas1mneptok: i have to read up on cleartext cause I have no idea what that is03:46
mneptokIRC is cleartext03:47
mneptokthis is my text03:47
thomas1mneptok: OMFG!03:47
DaSkreechthomas1: that means I can see your password from anywhere on the internet03:47
mneptok75he97ghidh iudp8d54bbibe987 bid8,.p745dbib eh8957fgr83brteuh i83f4dy03:47
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mneptok^^ "this is my text" encrypted ^^^03:47
Bigleon2meh my kopete on my main machien crashed, idk how to fix it, if try and uninstall it, it wnats me to uninstall my entire desktop -.-03:47
DaSkreechmneptok: that's still yourtext? :003:47
thomas1DaSkreech: dont crash my systemm please03:47
Bigleon2i changed something and this "sigabrt" idk keeps crashing kopete03:47
DaSkreechBigleon2: it wants to uninstall kubuntu-desktop03:47
DaSkreechBigleon2: there is a difference03:48
DaSkreechBigleon2: which one crashes it?03:48
thomas1DaSkreech: but My computer is super encrypted so noone can see my passwords03:48
Bigleon2which one crashes what?03:48
FlatfenderAny ideas how to get my flash drive to work? I need it to install wireless drivers on another desktop computer?03:48
DaSkreechBigleon2: Which protocol crashes kopete03:48
mneptokthomas1: your computer is nto The Internet03:48
mneptok*not03:48
Biovorethomas1: what kind of encryption?03:48
DaSkreechthomas1: are you using ftp ?03:48
Bigleon2It's not a protocol, i was changing the "input" text method03:48
Bigleon2and then it crashed03:48
thomas1DaSkreech: no i'm using my own encryption for downloading stuff off my computer03:49
thomas1DaSkreech: its relatively safe03:49
mneptokthomas1: imagine this. your at Aunt Lucy's house. you want to connect to your home machine.03:49
thomas1mneptok: lmao i like the start of this story03:49
mneptokthomas1: you connect. it FHP asks for a username and password.03:49
mneptok*FTP03:49
mneptokyou enter thomas1:myp4ss03:49
thomas1mneptok: how did u know i use that username and password? did u hack into me?03:50
mneptokand over the public Internet goes the string of clear, readable toxt "thomas1:myp4ss"03:50
thomas1mneptok: whats toxt? lol kidding.....let me ask you this for fun. Do you know how to read this clear text :D?03:50
Bigleon2i'm ready to beat my head bloody on my desk.... gah linux!03:50
mneptok*anyone* between your Aunt Lucy's and your modem can read that right off the wire.03:50
Biovoreftp over tls if your doing ftp..03:51
mneptokthomas1: and then your computer is not yours any more.03:51
Biovoreor sftp03:51
thomas1mneptok: refer to my previous post03:51
Biovoreftp is like screaming the user and pass though a crowded room..03:51
FlatfenderOK, I think it is showing up with my external hard drive name, under properties it only shows it as 2gb, which is what the disk is. Is there a way to format that disk?03:51
mneptokthomas1: there was content in it?03:51
thomas1Biovore: cmon man could u read my ftp info? cmon now really03:52
mneptokthomas1: yes03:52
thomas1mneptok: whats toxt? lol kidding.....let me ask you this for fun. Do you know how to read this?03:52
BiovoreI can't.. but some one can..03:52
mneptokthomas1: easily.03:52
DaSkreechthomas1: listen to me03:52
DaSkreechY03:52
DaSkreechE03:52
DaSkreechS03:52
Biovoreany packet sniffer will pick it up...03:52
DaSkreechit says pw03:52
DaSkreechthen your password03:52
DaSkreech exactly as you typed it03:52
Bigleon2DaSkreech you say anything i just suffered a 2.3 minute lag spike03:52
Biovorerun wireshare while you log into a ftp server.. then look at the contents of the packets.. there in pain sight..03:52
DaSkreechI got like 25 passwords for my university's accounts server by just looking at the network03:53
thomas1DaSkreech: lmao screech. wow03:53
thomas1DaSkreech: coooool03:53
DaSkreechIt's not cool03:53
DaSkreechit's stupid03:53
BiovoreDaSkreech: hehe..03:53
Biovoreyeah..03:53
DaSkreech do not use ftp03:53
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thomas1DaSkreech: ok i trust you fully03:53
Biovoresftp03:53
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Bigleon2Thats it after this download finishes, dear Mr computer is getting the Dban03:53
DaSkreechBigleon2: which one crashes kopete03:53
Biovoreor scp is the best03:53
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Bigleon2It's not like a prtocol, it's like i changed the "input" text method or something and then it crashed03:54
Biovorethomas1: winscp for windows works good on the windows side of ssh systems03:54
thomas1wow I learned a lot03:54
thomas1so FTP sucks03:54
hydrogenwow..03:55
hydrogenis this package for real?03:55
thomas1but ITS USED SSSSOOO MUCH03:55
DaSkreechBigleon2: So just change it before you sign in03:55
hydrogensl - Correct you if you type `sl' by mistake03:55
DaSkreechthomas1: yes but you know better know03:55
thomas1DaSkreech: ook thank you for informative stuff03:55
thomas1DaSkreech: still gotta read up and buy myself a little memory stick i guess right :S?03:56
DaSkreechthomas1: That's like .. I don't know .. half the battle or something03:56
thomas1DaSkreech: half the battle?03:56
DaSkreechthomas1: you can run a webserver and self sign a cert and be way better than ftp and still easily compliant03:56
thomas1DaSkreech: u mean for security03:56
thomas1DaSkreech: wow03:57
DaSkreechhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knowing_is_half_the_battle03:57
Bigleon2DaSkreech the program will not even start03:57
DaSkreechBigleon2: run it from command line and see what it says03:57
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Bigleon2how do i run it from command line?03:57
mneptokthomas1: surprisingly, even though Toyotas are used SOOOOOO MUCH, the Ferarri is a superior vehicle.03:58
DaSkreechBigleon2: though if you just wanna get it started you can jsut move your .kopete config03:58
Bigleon2how do i do that -.-!03:58
Bigleon2gah i'm linux retarded remeber03:58
thomas1mneptok: yea i get ur point03:59
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DaSkreechBigleon2: oh right. .kde/share/apps/kopete03:59
DaSkreechBigleon2: from your home folder03:59
DaSkreechjust move the kopete app to something else03:59
DaSkreechkopete directory >_<04:00
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mneptokBigleon2: rm -rf ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete04:00
ardchoilleDaSkreech: Wouldn't it be the ~/.kde/share/config/kopeterc file?04:00
mneptokBigleon2: then restart Kopete04:00
thomas1mneptok: i queried u04:00
mneptokthomas1: and i ignored it04:00
thomas1mneptok: o how come?04:00
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thomas1mneptok: alright sorry04:01
mneptokthomas1: because everybody and their uncle PMs me from #*ubuntu* channels? ;)04:01
FlatfenderIt tells me that access is denied on my flash drive. I need to copy files to it but it wont let me04:01
thomas1mneptok: why do they pm u?04:02
ardchoilleFlatfender: use sudo?04:02
mneptokFlatfender: sounds like the drive might be formatted as NTFS04:02
mneptokthomas1: /whois mneptok04:02
FlatfenderI just formated it to ext304:03
DaSkreechardchoille: maybe04:03
DaSkreechBigleon2: gone again?04:03
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thomas1mneptok: your in kubuntu support04:03
Bigleon2alright i'm at ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete04:03
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DaSkreechBigleon2: just rename that folder04:03
mneptokthomas1: Ubuntu and Kubuntu both04:03
Bigleon2well when i rightclicked the folder Konqueror crashed04:03
mneptokFlatfender: df -h and pastebin the result, please04:04
thomas1mneptok: the reason was because I like having smart people to talk with :D04:04
Bigleon2my computer hates me T_T04:04
DaSkreechBigleon2: Wow this is on your desktop?04:04
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mneptokthomas1: then i'm a poor choice04:04
thomas1mneptok: ..04:04
Bigleon2yeah04:04
mneptokBigleon2: did you play with chmod or chown by any chance?04:04
Bigleon2nope04:04
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mneptokBigleon2: open Konsole04:05
Bigleon2i haven't had time to play around the thing has been fucking up 24'704:05
Bigleon2already open04:05
DaSkreechBigleon2: Want to do a geeky purge and reinstall ?04:05
darlokWow... language, please?04:05
mneptokBigleon2: mv ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete ./04:05
DaSkreechdarlok: which language ?04:05
Bigleon2well atm i'm on my last 30pct of my 7.04 dl04:05
Flatfendermneptok all it says is: Access denied to /media/sda1/ndiswrapper-common_1.38-1ubuntu1_all.deb04:05
darlokDaSkreech: Bigleon2...04:05
thomas1does IRC log every convo after exit?04:06
mneptokFlatfender: df -h and pastebin the result, please04:06
darlokthomas1: Depends on whether or not you have the client setup to do so.04:06
DaSkreechdarlok: Oh good call04:06
_2thomas1 that's client dependant.04:06
DaSkreech!language | Bigleon204:06
UbotuBigleon2: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.04:06
Bigleon2my apologies...04:06
_2thomas1 and also tunable04:06
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darlokthomas1: I believe Konversation has loggin enabled automatically.  It will be in ~/logs04:07
Flatfenderhttp://pastebin.com/mc4bb79b04:07
Bigleon2when i tried to start up kopete aftering doing what you said mneptok, i got this "Crash handler" blabbing about SIGABRT04:07
thomas1_2: yea I think it is but not sure...settings - conversations - loggin- and enable logging is marked04:07
thomas1darlok: k thats good ty04:08
mneptokBigleon2: i think your issues are deeper than Kopete04:08
_2thomas1 then it should be keeping a log file.   and  'no' it is a "running log" not a "end program dump".04:08
Bigleon2Yeah, well i did something in kopete when it crashed04:09
Bigleon2i right clicked text field, and chose a different "input" style04:09
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Bigleon2gotta brb and grab laundry04:12
mauro_!kde404:12
UbotuKDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php04:12
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mneptokgah04:15
mneptokmissed 'im04:15
Bigleon204:15
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Bigleon2alright you send somemthing i dc'ed04:17
Bigleon2kopete is still crashing04:18
Bigleon2gonna watch a movie04:18
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DaSkreechBigleon2: download irssi04:21
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syntethhi04:23
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syntethgood night, is anyway possible to see any wireless networks using the konsole?04:24
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DaSkreechsynteth: iwlist <wirelesslan> scan04:24
DaSkreechthough I think that iwlist scan might work as well04:24
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syntethDaSkreech: but that just gives me information about the wireless i'm using04:26
DaSkreechiwlist <device> scan ?04:26
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syntethi'm sorry about this, that can be called a dumb question, what do you mean with device?04:28
syntethDaSkreech: eth1?04:28
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user704wow04:29
user704lots of ppl here04:29
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DaSkreech_synteth: if that's your wireless devce04:30
syntethDaSkreech_: ohh so, yes i can only seem to see my current wireless info04:31
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DaSkreech_ok04:31
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syntethit there any other way=04:32
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DaSkreech_sorry I just learnt that one04:32
DaSkreech_:)04:33
syntethohh, ok thanks, it's a nice tip by the way04:33
synteth:p04:33
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DaSkreech_iwlist --help04:34
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syntethi've tried iwlist freq04:36
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gicciHi folks04:47
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DaSkreechhi04:49
jhutchinsiwlist wlan0 scanning04:49
jhutchinsw/sudo of course04:49
BluesKajsacktime folks ...take care04:50
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synteth_jhutchins: sorry that's a command for what?04:51
jhutchinssynteth_: Yeah.  sudo iwlist wlan0 scanning, or whatever your card is instead of wlan004:51
jhutchinsshould list all detected AP's.04:51
synteth_i've tried iwlist eth2 scan04:52
synteth_wlan0     Interface doesn't support scanning.04:52
jhutchinssynteth_: iwconfig will show which device is your wireless.04:53
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jhutchinsscan/scanning shows the available AP's.04:53
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synteth_jhutchins: he only shows me my home wireless network04:54
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jagoi get an error from my monitor during login and can not see my screen the error is "OUT OF RANGE" how can i fix this.04:56
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jago"i get an error from my monitor during login and can not see my screen the error is "OUT OF RANGE" how can i fix this." i was told that this is probably an xorg settins issue an to check back here. any help would be appretiated05:01
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jago_"i get an error from my monitor during login and can not see my screen the error is "OUT OF RANGE" how can i fix this." i was told that this is probably an xorg settins issue an to check back here. any help would be appretiated05:06
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thomas__i'm trying to install openssh-server and its stuck on waiting for headers05:28
soulrider!restricted05:28
UbotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:28
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thomas__yea there was an error it wouldn't download the package05:29
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aparrasdfgsdgs05:32
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thomas__i'm trying to install openssh-server and its stuck on waiting for headers05:34
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thomas__anyone ther?05:37
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mneptokthomas__: still stuck?05:41
thomas__mneptok: yes05:42
thomas__mneptok: i tried multiple times and it timed out05:42
mneptokthomas__: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install openssh-server05:42
mneptok^^ try that ^^05:42
thomas__k i think i tried update05:43
thomas__and it didn't work but i'll try again05:43
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thomas__mneptok: are you sure you typed it correctly05:44
mneptokyes05:44
thomas__mneptok: yep its stalling again on 1 update at 99%05:45
thomas__mneptok: wine update05:45
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mneptokso comment out that repository05:46
mneptokor did you (Christ on His throne forbid it) use Automatix?05:46
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newsense!windows05:57
UbotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents05:57
newsenselmao05:57
thomas__mneptok: i don't know what to do05:58
mneptokcomment out that repository05:59
mneptokif you used Automatix or EasyUbuntu, backup, reformat, reinstall.06:00
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thomas__mneptok: u there?06:06
thomas__I can't seem to install openssh-server in adept manager06:06
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joshwhy cant i get updates?06:12
joshim trying to install vlc06:12
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joshso i can watch a movie on this laptop in bed06:12
joshand not even updates are working06:12
thomas__josh: i can't get updates working either06:13
joshi tried apt-get to and it doesnt work06:13
joshgheyness06:13
thomas__i'll try tomorrow06:13
thomas__maybe tomorrow it'll work06:13
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daedalus__hello06:14
daedalus__im having trouble installing libairware06:15
newsense07anyone know if freenode offers a hostmask for registered users ?, looked but maybe not hard enough06:15
daedalus__when i execute the make and make install commands i get the following error, this is the first line06:15
daedalus__g++ -I./include -O3 -fno-strict-aliasing  -c ./src/pcap-packet.cpp -o pcap-packet.o06:16
daedalus__any idea what could be causing this error?06:16
daedalus__./include/datatypes.h:4:18: error: pcap.h: No such file or directory06:16
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LaserJockanybody know how to tell strigi what to index or what not to index?06:20
pillowpantsis there a shell command that lists all the installed programs?06:21
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pillowpantsi just installed some x games, and i forgot which06:21
LaserJockpillowpants: dpkg -l06:21
pillowpantsthanks06:22
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daedalus__no help about the error?06:22
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hydrogen\wow06:26
hydrogenthat article in the !windows factoid is pretty much not that logical06:27
hydrogendirect quote: "Well, you might be able to make a case for KDE being commercial, since it's Qt-based."06:27
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level1hi, my keyboard shortcuts keep breaking... like, they'll work when I first log into kde, but after a while they just stop working06:37
ubunturosIs i-ball camera supported in KUbuntu 6.06>06:38
level1theses are the shortcuts to kmix, and to start applications from the keyboard06:38
ubunturos?06:38
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level1amarok global shortcuts still work for some reason06:38
level1ubunturos: sometimes theres no way to be sure... do you already own that particular model, or are you considering it?06:39
ubunturoslevel1: considering Logitech camers.06:39
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ubunturoslevel1: have found compatible ones.06:39
level1if you already own it, you might as well just try it... but I don't recomend buying it until you can be sure (unless you have a lot of money to throw around)06:39
dranasellos06:39
ubunturoslevel1: :)06:39
ubunturoslevel1: however, if there are other cheaper ones (samsung / creative) would they be compatible?06:40
dranasanyone know how to stop kompmgr from starting automatically?06:40
level1I haven't found a site that reliable tells me this stuff, but I'm told they exsist, so you might try google for stuff like "linux hardware compatability"06:40
level1dranas: it should be in the window behaivor part of systemsettings06:41
dranaslet me check06:41
level1under translucency06:41
level1kompmgr is kde composite, right?06:41
ubunturoslevel1: I have found ones that are compatible with Ubuntu - on Ubuntu wiki06:41
dranasi think06:41
level1I'm a fan of kde composite... it will be greatly improved in kde 406:42
ubunturoslevel1: the only issue is, just in case the shop doesn't stock the exact model, are there samsung / creative webcams that are compatible? (if anyone has used them; logged on)?06:42
level1ubunturos: well, go for the sure thing, if you can.  I don't want you to waste money.06:42
ubunturoslevel1: umm, yes.06:42
dranasi made my desktop look like mac os x and well....the tranlucency is not working and blowing up and im tired of hearing the breaking glass sound everytime i login06:43
dranasim gonna be scared to upgrade to kde 4 cause i worked my butt off to make this thingie look like mac os x06:43
level1dranas: yeah, you might as well turn it off then.06:44
dranasjust casaid i couldntuse this guy06:44
dranasevil mpouse06:44
dranassome guy said i couldnt m ake this linux look like mac os x06:44
dranasso i had to prove him wrong06:44
level1dranas: well, the kde 4 that I use on my computer looks fairly macy and I'm sure can configure it just as well06:44
dranasis kde 4 in its stable release yet?06:45
level1lol, this is computers.  You can do anything, just not always easily, very well, very fast, or very reliably.06:45
level1dranas: nah, not until december they're talking06:45
level1but it'll be great when it comes out06:45
dranasill wait till then, my wife uses the comp too06:45
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level1you can run kde 3 and kde 4 simultaniously, if your curious... its mostly harmless06:46
dranasyou ever use baghira?06:46
dranasnah, id break something06:46
level1I prefer domino myself... smooth scrolling ftw06:46
dranashow about that bab thingie06:47
dranasits kinda annoying me06:47
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dranaswell see if the disableing of said transparencies worked after my dvd is done encoding?06:48
kvnethi 2 all06:48
dranasello06:49
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kvnethow can i rescue files, if my sistem is tottaly broken? :|06:49
dranasmagic....nah i dont know06:49
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=== kvnet never will try to install compiz fusion again :\
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dranasooo how did you break it? maybe you can fix it from konsole06:50
kvnetno :( cuz i have no console06:50
kvnetonly disk error06:50
kvnetand i cant load my kubuntu -_-06:51
dranaso06:52
dranasdisk error06:52
dranasdoesnt sound like compiz fusion problem06:52
kvnetit appeared after installing compiz and reboot06:53
dranasi could see it if the x server wont start but06:53
dranashmmm06:53
dranasstrange06:53
dranasreally06:53
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dranasim actually using fedora 706:53
dranasfor some reason, my kubuntu freaked out06:53
dranasand like....stopped working for me06:53
dranasbut i liked it when it was working06:54
dranaslol06:54
dranasgood night everyone thanks for your help06:56
dranasill let you know if it worked06:56
pillowpantswhere is the sources.list located?06:57
kvnet/etc/?06:57
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pillowpantsso /etc/sources.list?06:58
tazgodxis there a setting to get konversation to autoidentify?06:58
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kvnetetc/apt/sources.list06:58
pillowpantskvnet: thanks06:59
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kvnetwho knows some sites, where i can download widgets for KDE?07:02
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tazgodxdon't konw how i did it, but i got it to work07:04
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kkathmankvnet:  kde-look.org07:07
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paulohi any one there07:08
kkathmanyep07:08
kkathmanwell, at least I am :)07:08
pauloI was trying to compile a C++ program and I got this message /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.1.2/../../../../include/c++/4.1.2/cstdlib:135: error: ::system has not been declared07:09
paulodo you know anything about it07:09
kkathmanlooks like a bad package or bad source07:09
kkathmanbut I dunno07:09
kkathmani dont do much compiling07:10
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kvnetwant compiling - come to gentoo :)07:10
kvneti tried it, but my windows-friendly toshiba cant work properly with other distros07:11
pauloI have been able to compile and run programs on the same machine but now Im geting an error msg07:11
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bob1nzhey i need some help with a tv tuner card?07:17
Daisuke_Idois it hauppauge? (that is probably not spelled right)07:17
bob1nzno its jst a cheapy from dick smith its gt a saa713x chip07:18
bob1nzall i gt thru myth is a black screen thats kynda staticy and it wont pick up any channels when i scan so i loaded them in manually from the info i got from the net the card works fine in windows07:20
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_phil_hi07:21
_phil_i have kernel 2.6.22-11-generic installed and restricted-modules to the kernel. but unfortunately my wlan-interface will not be recognized from iwlist. what am i missing? it works with kernel 2.6.20-16.07:21
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pillowpants!repositories07:22
UbotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu07:22
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evil-rhinoanyone know where i can find .debs of openoffice.org 2.3 (preferably rc3)?07:24
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_phil_evil-rhino: dunno. you could make some for your self.07:25
evil-rhinothis is a slow machine, and compiling it would take a very long time.07:25
_phil_on the oo-site the is only rc2 available. see http://download.openoffice.org/680/index.html?intcmp=123507:26
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_phil_i fear if you want a bleeding edge version of oo you need to compile it yourself.07:27
evil-rhino_phil_: rc2 is good enough, thanks!07:28
bob1nzhey phil07:29
_phil_hi bob1nz07:29
evil-rhinothey fixed a really annoying issue in 2.3 -- previously if you worked in preview mode, the page would be left-aligned rather than centered like in word and abiword. i don't know why, but it drove me absolutely nuts on my wide screen monitor.07:29
bob1nzdo you know much about tv cards?07:30
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_phil_bob1nz: no i do not know much about tv cards.07:32
bob1nzok jst thought id ask thanks07:32
martalliI know that picking a card that's compatible with linux is oretty darn hard07:33
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bob1nzyeah i dnt wanna go buy a new one and iv seen ppl use the same chip as mine has bt i dnt know my way around linux too well07:34
pillowpantshow do you watch encypted dvds?07:35
pillowpantsim trying and its not giving in07:35
holycowdvdcss207:36
holycowand vlc07:36
pillowpantsholycow: ill give it a go07:38
pillowpantsi screwed up my repositories, so i have to fix that first07:38
jussi01!dvd | pillowpants07:38
Ubotupillowpants: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs07:38
jussi01!repo | pillowpants07:38
Ubotupillowpants: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu07:38
jussi01!easysource07:39
Ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic07:39
jussi01ahh, thats the one I wanted...07:39
jussi01pillowpants: hope that helps07:39
pillowpantssource-o-matic has done me no good so far07:39
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pillowpantsill check em07:39
pillowpantsi may have just done it wrong07:39
jussi01hehe07:39
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jussi01so anyone know a _basic_ sound recorder? I just need to record an interview im having with someone.07:40
jussi01with their permission of course... :P07:41
kkathmanjussi01:  what about audacity?07:41
holycowapt-cache search record sound07:42
jussi01kkathman: yeah, could work. was hoping for something a little simpler07:42
jussi01holycow: yeah, however I was looking for recommendations07:42
kkathmanjussi01:  well I dont wanna say this - but my wife uses it with her 5th graders :)07:42
kkathmanlol07:43
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kkathmanI honestly have never used it, but  my wife does and she learned it pretty quick so she could make sound tracks for her ipods she was doing with her class07:43
=== jussi01 does: sudo apt-get install audacity
kkathmanso I dont know how easy or hard it is  :)07:44
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kkathmanit IS probably overkill for you07:44
kkathmanbut its free :07:44
jussi01true... what I was originally looking for is something like that basic sound recorder that comes with windiows....07:45
hangthedjlike krec07:45
hangthedj?07:45
jussi01!info krec07:46
Ubotukrec: sound recorder utility for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 352 kB, installed size 1056 kB07:46
jussi01ahhh... sounds good07:46
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lnx_why when i install "nvidia-settings" its auto remove "nvidia-glx" ?07:52
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hangthedji think it uninstalls nvidia-glx and installs nvidia-something-new instead.07:54
hangthedjnot completely sure though, i don't hang nvidia07:55
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LaserJockanybody know what CD ripper works well in gutsy?07:56
hangthedji like kaudiocreator07:57
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lnx_hangthedj , it doesnt08:01
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hangthedjit doesn't install nvidia-glx-new or nvidia-glx-legacy?08:02
lnx_hangthedj , i dont find anything in k menu ... maybe it install and dont create shortcut ?08:03
paulc87can someone show me a simple guide for upgrading 7.04 to 7.10 and upgrading to kde 4 beta also?08:03
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hangthedjlnx_, are you using adept?08:04
lnx_hangthedj , yes08:04
lnx_hangthedj , i did sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx08:04
hangthedjwith apt-get it should tell you what its installing and uninstalling before it does it.08:05
hangthedjso if you do nvidia-settings, it should say uninstalling nvidia-glx and installing nvidia-settings nvidia-glx-new etc..08:05
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lnx_but it doesnt08:06
holycowwhy are kde panels like jello?08:06
holycowi mean gnome panels are terrible and re-arrange them selves on every reload08:06
holycowbut adding icons to a kde panel is like throwing darts at random08:06
holycowyou just never know where the damned icon will end up08:07
holycowand applets and things shift aroun dlike mad08:07
holycowvery odd08:07
hangthedjsorry, i'm not sure then, like i said i don't have nvidia, well i do, but its an old server, really old nvidia 256k08:07
hangthedji don't even have a gui on it.08:07
hangthedjso i don't know much about nvidia stuff08:08
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hangthedjbut usually if you were to install something that would remove a needed driver, it usually replaces it with another one.08:08
hangthedjcause if you don't have a nvidia driver how are you gonna use the nvidia-settings?08:09
hangthedjto configure the driver08:09
lnx_ok nvidia-glx is the same as the driver that you download from nvidia.com ?08:09
elzballnx_: Yes.08:10
hangthedji just went to install nvidia-settings, and it said recommended packages: nvidia-glx :/08:10
lnx_ok i will try it08:10
elzbalFor me, nvidia-settings was installed with nvidia-glx-new.08:10
elzbalAnd it may be installed with the nvidia-glx package too, but I'm not sure.08:11
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hangthedjit just recomends it08:11
lnx_when i click "install" on nvidia-settings it automatic do "remove" on nvidia glx08:12
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elzballnx_: Which kind of nvidia card do you have?08:12
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lnx_geforce 5200 fx08:12
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elzbalThen I'd suggest going for the "nvidia-glx-new" package instead.08:13
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lnx_what is the difference ?08:14
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elzbalWell, to be honest, I'm not sure I know all the differences... but -new is recommended for newer geforce cards, and (bonus) it includes the nvidia-settings app.08:15
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lnx_elzbal , i have installed glx-new and i dont see any configure tools ?08:16
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elzballnx_: Check to see if you can run "nvidia-settings" from the command line.08:17
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lnx_yes it runs08:18
elzballnx_: Also, have you run "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" yet?08:18
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lnx_i get this error : Error: your X configuration has been altered.08:19
elzbalThat command attempts to update your xorg.conf. The error might mean that it can't recognise the contents. Have you done a lot of manual changes there?08:20
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lnx_i didnt touch it at all08:20
elzbalhmm...08:21
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lnx_i will restart kdm and i will see maybe it will be fixed08:21
elzbalmaybe... good luck08:21
elzbalAnd maybe run that command while kdm/X is down.08:21
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dfreyHow do I change the konqueror mouse behaviour to double-click to open instead of single-click?08:25
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lnx_i dont know i have no windows decoration in compiz i have tried kde , emerald , someone know what i can do ?08:27
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kayuuwihi, i have a Pentium III 800MHz 128MB RAM machine. Could any of you help me what version of kubuntu can run well?08:32
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Raspberrywow, KDE is buggy as hell on Gutsy08:42
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kayuuwi hi, i have a Pentium III 800MHz 128MB RAM machine. Could any of you help me what version of kubuntu can run well?08:46
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kumamotokayuuwi: any version could run well have u tried feisty first08:46
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^MPS^hi08:47
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baudthiefIs there any way to find out what is eating my ram? I'm running kubuntu feisty w/beryl - after boot I have ~600MB free. My system gradually starts to slow down and free RAM goes to zero08:53
baudthiefI have to reboot to make my machine usable again08:53
baudthiefksysguard isn't too helpful :\08:53
baudthiefgotta reboot on average twice a day - it only started doing this a few days ago08:54
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hangthedjkayuuwi, i would go with xubuntu, really08:56
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GreencookieHi people:)08:58
kayuuwihangthedj, thank you, but what xbuntu overs inplace of kubuntu?08:59
SmileyRLHi kayuuwi08:59
SmileyRLHi Greencookie08:59
kayuuwihi u too SmileyRL08:59
GreencookieHi SmileyRL :)09:00
GreencookieWow I'm beginning to like linux:)09:00
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hangthedjkayuuwi, xubuntu run xfce which is a smaller faster desktop system.09:00
GreencookieFinally got everything to work!09:00
hangthedjyou could try fluxbuntu also, it uses fluxbox, which is pretty fast.09:00
GreencookieCan anyone tell me how I can find if I'm using a 32-bit or 64-bit version of Ubuntu/Kubuntu09:01
GreencookieI got an AMD 64 processor.09:01
kayuuwihangthedj, can xubuntu run on Live CD09:01
yendorI have recently repaired my wireless connection on Kubuntu, I can access wifi & wired internet correctly but not my router on 192.168.1.254.... can you give me a hand to fix this please?09:01
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hangthedjkayuuwi, yep.09:01
hangthedj!xubuntu09:02
kkathmanGreencookie:  do a uname -a  at the cli09:02
Ubotuxubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels09:02
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GreencookieKnock Knock.09:03
kkathmanGreencookie:  see above09:03
hangthedjwake up neo?09:03
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hangthedjfollow the rabbit09:03
hangthedj!ot | hangthedj09:03
kayuuwihangthedj, can it auto-mount usb flash disk and usb-external-hdd with ntfs file system?09:04
hangthedjit should09:04
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hangthedjget the newest version from www.xubuntu.org09:04
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kkathmanGreencookie:  you understand what to do??09:04
yendorSorry I got DC.. do I have to repeat my question?09:05
kkathmanyendor:  what was you question?09:05
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zaurav_sorry got disconnected:)09:05
zaurav_hello!09:06
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kkathmanhi09:06
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zaurav_Does anyone have experience installing the ndiswrapper for netgear 111?09:06
kkathmani dont09:07
gustavohi!09:07
zaurav_ah kk09:07
zaurav_hi gustavo.09:07
hangthedj!ntfs-3g | kayuuwi09:07
Ubotukayuuwi: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions09:07
gustavosorry for this noob question, but whats the opera browser package?09:07
kkathmangustavo:  its a browser like firefox09:07
gustavoi know, but whats its package?09:08
zaurav_its the entire package for opera..which is a browser09:08
gustavoapt-get install opera?09:08
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gustavoit doesnt exists09:08
kkathmangustavo:  I think you have to get it on their site09:08
zaurav_i always apt-get such things09:08
kkathmanI always did09:08
zaurav_apt-get install opera09:09
kkathmanzaurav_:  I dont know that opera is in the repos09:09
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kkathmanyou can try apt-cache search opera browser and see09:09
kayuuwiis ntfs-3g already pack with the xubuntu or i have to download/install it myself?09:09
hangthedjyou have to add the archive.canonical.com09:09
hangthedjrepository to get opera09:09
hangthedj!find opera09:09
UbotuFile opera found in apparmor-profiles, crossfire-maps, crossfire-maps-small, debian-edu-config, localization-config09:09
zaurav_oh k09:09
kkathmanI just went to the opera site and theres a custom download for ubuntu users09:09
hangthedjkayuuwi, sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g09:10
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zaurav_apt-cache search opera browser...is it to see if opera is in repos?09:10
hangthedjbut i don't think you can do that from the live cd09:10
kkathmanyou download the deb file and install with dpkg- i09:10
zaurav_!find opera09:10
UbotuFile opera found in apparmor-profiles, crossfire-maps, crossfire-maps-small, debian-edu-config, localization-config09:10
zaurav_wow09:11
zaurav_:)09:11
hangthedj!opera09:11
Ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser09:11
kkathmanits going to be an older version there I bet also09:11
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zaurav_1st week of linux here ^_^09:11
zaurav_!konversation09:11
UbotuSorry, I don't know anything about konversation - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:11
NightBirdhave fun zaurav_09:11
zaurav_lol i am:D09:11
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zaurav_i like this IRC chat thingie..09:11
kkathmanzaurav_:  you should probably stay with firefox tho, honestly09:12
zaurav_I like firefox tho09:12
hangthedji like firefox way more than opera09:12
zaurav_oh yeah:D09:12
kkathmanopera doesnt work really well in linux09:12
kayuuwii have to download ntfs-3g? from where? any dependecies?09:12
zaurav_I just installed tons of extensions.09:12
hangthedj!info ntfs-3g09:12
Ubotuntfs-3g: read-write NTFS driver for FUSE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.328-1 (feisty), package size 25 kB, installed size 88 kB09:12
hangthedjkayuuwi, you have to apt-get it.09:12
zaurav_kayuuwi apt-cache search ntfs-3g09:12
kkathmanalot of its multimedia pins are not the same api as what firefox is, and as such wont support things like embedded audio/video well09:12
zaurav_!find ntsf-3g09:13
UbotuPackage/file ntsf-3g does not exist in feisty09:13
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hangthedji hate how the widgets in opera are always in the way.09:13
hangthedjzaurav_, ntfs09:13
zaurav_oh lol..thnx bud09:14
yendorI recently repair my wifi & wired connection on kubuntu, but now I cannot access the router on 192.168.1.254.... can you help me with the route table please?09:14
zaurav_!find ntfs-3g09:14
UbotuFound: libntfs-3g-dev, libntfs-3g0, ntfs-3g09:14
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kkathmanif you dont mind not having embedded video/audio, opera is definitely fastest09:14
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hangthedjzaurav_, usually you would access it on 192.168.1.109:14
kkathmanflash works most of the time, except in some special cases where its called by javascript09:15
hangthedjbut firefox has the fullscreen homestarrunner.com09:15
hangthedjaddon09:15
zaurav_Any of you folks use Amarok?09:15
kkathmanlol09:15
kkathmanyes I use amarok - its the best player09:15
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zaurav_hangthedj that was yendor:) hehe09:15
zaurav_Amarok yes! Best player for me too.09:16
hangthedjsorry, i must like you09:16
zaurav_rofl09:16
kkathmanif you are running kubuntu why would you NOT use amarok :)09:16
kkathmanshoot when I ran ubuntu I used amarok :)09:16
zaurav_Yeh plus works with foxytunes extention.09:16
zaurav_Which is turn works with twitter addon for foxy:)09:16
zaurav_= awesomeness :)09:17
yendorAmarok RULEZ :P09:17
zaurav_lol09:17
zaurav_but right now my Amarok is frozen cuz I just made it rescan my entire library.09:17
kkathmanzaurav_:  you might try using Konqueror as your browser for a while and see if that works for you - its very compliant with all aspects of Flash 9, and supports all the audio and video plugins09:17
yendorI recently repair my wifi & wired connection on kubuntu, but now I cannot access the router on 192.168.1.254.... can you help me with the route table please?09:18
zaurav_hey is there any way to autotag MP3 files in amarok?09:18
hangthedjas much as i love konqueror, it has no full screen homestarrunner plugin.09:18
zaurav_I saw it has an auto album art feature.. is there anything like that?09:18
kkathmanzaurav_:  afraid not, you have to actually edit almost every tag to put in the disk # I think09:18
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hangthedjyendor, usually you would access the router on 192.168.1.109:18
Greencookieor 192.168.2.109:19
kkathmanor 0.109:19
Greencookielol09:19
hangthedjzaurav_, there are scripts.09:19
hangthedjor 192.168.15.109:19
Greencookieits greencookie now:)09:19
kkathmanyou can write a script if you are savvy to build the xml stuff09:19
yendorhello... mine is SET to be accessed at 254 :P09:20
Greencookieerm. Not a very proficient linux user. Havent done scripts yet.09:20
GreencookieThis is my first week into linux:)09:20
hangthedjmy new motto is, learn python.09:20
yendorBUT that matters little... I want to enable the 192.168  range on my routing table09:20
GreencookieMine is, Learn Java09:20
Greencookiei just had Python class last semester.09:20
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kkathmanhangthedj:  ugh dont waste your time :)09:21
kkathmango Qt :)09:21
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Greencookieis there a short cut to reply to a person? like include his nick in my message?09:21
kkathmanGreencookie:  yes - use the auto complete -  type first few letters . then hit tab09:22
Greencookiekkathman: whats Qt?09:22
hangthedjbut qt is just a gui frame work.  i say learn C or C++ and everything else will fall into place09:22
Greencookiekkathman: THANKS!09:22
kkathman!qt09:22
UbotuQt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI. Install the libqt3-mt-dev package to compile Qt applications09:22
Greencookiekkathman: I will use ! from now on..thanks again.09:22
kkathmannp09:22
Greencookiewow I'm learning so many things already:D09:22
Greencookiebut there still are LOTS of problems to be sorted out :(09:23
kkathmanGreencookie:  word to the wise - learn your terminal commands too, they will save your life :)09:23
GreencookieI havent yet played around with terminal commands09:23
GreencookieBut I do know Ctrl + Shift + 'v' = Paste:)09:23
hangthedjyendor, what happens when you try to access your router?09:23
kkathmanGreencookie:  just ctrl-v09:24
Greencookiekkathman: lol really?09:24
kkathmanyup09:24
kkathmanhangthedj:  can he ping the router?09:24
Greencookiewell it showed shortcut as ctrl+shift+v so i thought that was it:)09:24
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hangthedji dunno.09:24
kayuuwihangthedj, zaurav, thnx vmuch for yhe help...09:24
hangthedjGreencookie, you should register your nick.09:25
Greencookiekayuuwi: Hey:) NP. I didn't help much tho. Noob here myself.09:25
Greencookiehangthedj: how??09:25
Greencookie /register?09:25
GreencookieI'm very much a WoW person btw.:)09:26
kkathmanGreencookie:  /msg nickserv register [yourpasword] 09:26
Greencookiecool09:26
Greencookiei think I just did:)09:26
kkathmanthen to identify, its  /msg nickserv identify [yourpassword] 09:26
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Greencookiethnx09:26
Greencookieoh lemme try09:27
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hangthedjyendor, yeah, what if you ping your router, what does it say?09:27
GreencookieSuccess!09:27
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hangthedjyay, Greencookie is now identified to services.09:28
GreencookieHehe, glad to join the force.09:28
GreencookieKubuntu or Ubuntu?09:28
hangthedjKubuntu09:29
hangthedji hate gnome09:29
GreencookieKubuntu here too :)09:29
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kkathmangnome works ok, and its fine for many people09:29
GreencookieWell I screwed up my Gnome desktop and had no idea to reset it so had no choice:)09:29
kkathmanbut it has its issues09:29
hangthedjits just so ugly and unconfigurable compared to kde09:29
GreencookieI keep getting forced into making a decision lol:)09:30
kkathmanhangthedj:  well you can pretty much dress gnome to look just like kde09:30
kkathmanbut out of the box tis a bit stark09:30
hangthedji guess.09:30
kkathmanmy ubuntu install looks exactly like a mac09:30
kkathmanall the way down to the parabolic menus09:30
sfsdfssomebody know a good hdd manager (df -h gui)09:30
hangthedj:(09:30
kkathmansfsdfs:  hdparm09:31
kkathmanoh you want gui, sorry09:31
hangthedjfilelight is pretty nice, it shows stuff, i dunno about manage though.09:31
kkathmansfsdfs:  try kinfocenter09:31
sfsdfskkathman: tune hard disk parameters for high performance ?????????09:32
kkathmanyeah you have to get to like kparted to actually manage partitions etc09:32
kkathmansfsdfs:  what exactly are you looking to do in hdd management?09:32
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kkathmanif you just wanna see usage/free, use kinfocenter, if you want to change partitions, you'll need kparted09:33
sfsdfsbasicly size ... kkathman09:33
kkathmansfsdfs:  either gparted or kparted09:33
hangthedjor qtparted! :D09:33
kkathmanyah that too :)09:33
kkathmanhehe09:33
kkathmanall those "parteds"09:34
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hangthedjthey're all gui interfaces for parted i think09:35
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zaurav_arg!09:35
kkathmanyep09:35
zaurav_I keep getting DCed for sum reason.09:35
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zaurav_Plus I can't connect to my wireless router if it has security enabled. Strange.09:36
zaurav_how do I kick old me from there?09:36
hangthedjzaurav_, i know in my router there is a setting, to choose if wireless connections can connect to it, or only lan connections.09:36
kkathmantheres some ghost command that eludes me zaurav_09:36
hangthedji love my router, we're best friends.09:37
kkathmanyou want your router to be your bitch :)  do exactly what its told :)09:37
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zaurav_hangthedj: I only connect to router using wireless, not lan.09:37
zaurav_I wish my router would be my bitch :(09:37
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kkathmantame it :)09:37
zaurav_Gotta give it a couple of slaps (literally) sometimes.09:38
zaurav_Yeah, I need to learn how to push its buttons;)09:38
zaurav_I'm taking a Networking class this semester, hopefully, which will help.09:38
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kkathmanzaurav_:  usually you can put your router address in a browser and it will get you access to its interface09:39
kkathmanso from firefox, you type http://192.168.0.1  or whatever your addie is09:39
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kkathmanand it should bring up the router interface for you09:40
hangthedja routers like a woman, if you don't spend a considerable amount of time messing with its switches, it isn't gonna do anything for you.09:40
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kkathmanlol09:40
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kkathmanhehe09:41
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hangthedji would, but this router takes up most of my time ;)09:41
kkathmanlol09:41
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kkathmanhangthedj:  danger sign - if you buy it lingerie, its definitely time for a vacation09:42
hangthedjright hehe09:42
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hangthedji tried, nothing fits.09:43
zaurav__:(09:43
zaurav__Do you guys chat on other irc servers?09:43
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mark__hello09:45
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zaurav__knock knock09:47
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hangthedjzaurav__, #kubuntu-offtopic09:47
hangthedjnobody chats there, but i wish they would.09:48
mark105whats the best way to do network partitions in kubuntu09:48
niels_Ubotu: adept fix crash09:48
hangthedj!adeptfix09:49
UbotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 09:49
niels_hangthedj: thx09:49
mark105as i have to keep goin sudo mount n so on09:49
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mark105all i wanna do is click on a icon n it mount09:50
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kkathmanmark105:  why not put it in your fstab?09:51
kkathmanthen it will mount each time you boot09:51
mark105yeh but i have a laptop09:51
mark105so i dont want it to09:51
kkathmanshrug09:52
mark105but i do have it in fstab09:52
mark105to save how much i have to type haha09:52
kkathmanyah09:52
mark105but yeh09:52
mark105i dunno09:52
Jalathanwouldn't mtab be better, so sudo isn't required? (novice view here)09:53
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kkathmanwell even if you have it ther and its not not availble - no harm no foul09:53
mark105whats mtab?09:53
hangthedjif you have a laptop and its in fstab, and your not around the computer your trying to connect to, it will fail.09:53
mark105true i spose09:53
hangthedjor if your around it, it will connect.09:53
kkathmanright09:53
pillowpantsis there something up with dapper drake09:53
hangthedjyeah its old09:54
pillowpantsto wheres its repositories are messed up?09:54
kkathmanpillowpants:  well dapper is about 2 releases back09:54
kkathmanalmost 309:54
pillowpantsis the compatability of programs the same for dapper as fiesty?09:54
kkathmanno09:54
kkathmansome maybe09:54
pillowpantslike say, audacious, linuxdcpp, deluge-torrent09:54
kkathmanhmm possibly but I dunno09:55
pillowpantsive got all my repositories put up right, but i cant get those hits from the list09:55
kkathmanin general alot of water has gone under that bridge09:55
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pillowpantsand i was on feisty like 2 weeks back09:55
kkathmanpillowpants:  dapper was 6.04 right?09:55
pillowpantsyeah09:55
pillowpantslts edition09:55
kkathmando yeah you should be able to get to the repos09:55
pillowpantscould i update my system as opposed to downloading and installing the kubuntu 7.04 iso?09:56
pillowpantsonline*09:56
hangthedjbash.org is funny09:57
hangthedjpillowpants, but you have to go to edgy -> feisty09:57
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hangthedjand then -> gusty if you wish.09:57
hangthedjyou can't just go from dapper -> feisty for some reasy09:57
pillowpantssounds tedious09:57
pillowpantsbut how would i do that?09:57
hangthedjreasy? reason.09:57
WeeltinHi.. can i run KDE and GNOME on same instance of KUBUNTU??09:57
enjoi1216hey kkathman are you there09:58
Weeltinand how do i do it??09:58
hangthedjyou have to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list09:58
pillowpantsweeltin: yeah09:58
hangthedjto say edgy instead of dapper09:58
hangthedjthen to say fiesty instead of edgy09:58
pillowpantsthe update everything?09:58
enjoi1216what is going on pillow09:58
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pillowpantsthen*09:58
kkathmanenjoi1216:  yeppers :)09:59
hangthedjno you have to change it to edgy, then sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade09:59
hangthedjthen change it to fiesty and do the same.09:59
enjoi1216well i'm still having issues with myspace09:59
pillowpantsill assume that would take quite a while?09:59
hangthedjwho isn't09:59
kkathmanenjoi1216:  what kind of issues?09:59
WeeltinHow do i installe Gnome on a Kubuntu?10:00
enjoi1216like when i go to login into myspace to check my messages10:00
hangthedjmyspace is the buggiest peice of crap web application on the net.10:00
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kkathmanWeeltin:  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop10:00
enjoi1216there is somethign about linux that it doesn't like10:00
hangthedjWeeltin, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop10:00
pillowpantsWeeltin: just search for it in adept10:00
Weeltinthanks..10:00
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kkathmanI dont have anyprobs with myspace10:00
pillowpantshangthedj: word10:00
enjoi1216well kkathman i got logged in10:01
hangthedjthey run adobe coldfusion, and MS IIS.10:01
kkathmanwell thats a good start :)10:01
kkathmanman I thought coldfusion was dead :)10:01
hangthedjTom always has some bulletin, says sorry for the problems, were doing blah blah blah10:01
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hangthedjkkathman, i think only myspace uses it.10:02
kkathmanlol10:02
hangthedjbut they mix it with js and php10:02
kkathmanmaybe so10:02
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kkathmanyeah they are doing maintenance right now10:02
enjoi1216hey kkathman are there any kubuntu emulators that i can download for free so that i can run win apps on my lnux maching10:03
enjoi1216free emulators10:03
hangthedji don't use myspace anymore, unless someone sends me a message then i reply and say, email me at a real email address instead.10:03
Weeltinpillowpants: how do i then chance from KDE to GNOME? and back again??10:03
hangthedjhey, everyone who's offtopic should move to #kubunu-offtopic10:03
hangthedjwe can be in both channels.10:04
pillowpantscrt + alt + backspace10:04
pillowpantssession, change to gnome10:04
pillowpantslog back in10:04
kkathmanenjoi1216:  you might try wine10:04
pillowpantsthere you are10:04
hangthedjwe'll show #ubuntu-offtopic were alive.10:04
kkathman!wine | enjoi121610:04
Ubotuenjoi1216: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.10:04
Weeltinpillowpants: thanks..10:04
pillowpantssure10:04
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pillowpantsi cant even see wine in my repositories10:08
pillowpantsif i dont get this fixed, im just going to download the fiesty kubuntu iso and re do my system10:08
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enjoi1216well whats the first steps that i need to do since i am so Kubuntu iliterate10:08
pillowpantsspent the better part of this last day doing..10:08
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combiniowhat's the name of programm that people are saving movies what they're doing on their comps ??10:09
combiniolike on You Tube u can watch Beryl movies etc. :)10:09
hangthedjcombinio, install krecordmydesktop10:09
combiniohangthedj: thx10:09
combiniohangthedj: wait a sec10:10
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combinior u sure u gave me good name ?10:10
combiniothere is no such pack (?)10:10
combinio:] 10:10
waylandbill!info recordmydekstop10:10
UbotuPackage recordmydekstop does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas10:10
Jucato!info krecordmydesktop10:11
UbotuPackage krecordmydesktop does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas10:11
Jucato!info krecordmydesktop gutsy10:11
waylandbillwierd. It's in my package list. I found it by apt-cache search desktop | grep record10:11
Ubotukrecordmydesktop: kde frontend to recordmydesktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1~alpha1+debian-1 (gutsy), package size 75 kB, installed size 300 kB10:11
combinioJucato: hey :)10:11
Jucatogutsy only10:11
hangthedjahh, right10:12
hangthedjgusty only10:12
Jucatohi combinio10:12
combinioso is there something else under Feisty ? :)10:12
Jucato!info screenkast10:12
UbotuPackage screenkast does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas10:12
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hangthedjhttp://recordmydesktop.iovar.org/about.php10:12
Jucatonope... screenkast is in gutsy only too...10:12
waylandbillodd. the backend I found in feisty even though it's not listed on here.10:12
combiniocrap!10:12
combiniobut there must be something that they use if there are such movies under FF10:13
Jucatowaylandbill: surely there's no dekstop :)10:13
Jucato!info recordmydesktop10:13
Uboturecordmydesktop: Captures audio-video data of a linux desktop session. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-1 (feisty), package size 40 kB, installed size 128 kB10:13
combinioi just want to save a conferention that will be emited in flash on WWW :] 10:13
waylandbillHA! good catch jucato. lol10:13
combiniothat's all10:13
Jucatothe GUI frontend would be gtk-recordmydesktop10:14
combinioi want to made some podcast10:14
hangthedj!find gtk-recordmydesktop10:14
UbotuFound: gtk-recordmydesktop10:14
hangthedjoops10:14
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combinioJucato: if i install it - will be this workiing as well ?10:14
waylandbillI was beginning to wonder if it was from backports or something, but it's just my dyslexia. ;-)10:14
Jucatowhy wouldn't it work? :)10:14
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Jucatoyour dylsxeai?10:15
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combinioi mean - will be workiin' with normal speed not slowly because of my procesor :)10:15
combinioetc.10:15
waylandbillJucato: hehe10:15
hangthedjcombinio, depends on what kind of processor you have10:15
Jucatodunno... you have to try it yourself10:15
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combiniobut programms under GNOME works slower under KDE, right ?10:16
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Jucatono@10:16
Jucatono!10:16
combiniook then :)10:16
combinioso i'm installing gtk-recordmydesktop10:16
patrick__Hi there10:17
hangthedjintresting, there is only a .deb package for krecordmydesktop if your on gusty, if you go to kde-apps.org you have to compile it.10:18
waylandbillthe first time it loads a gtk library, there may be a slight delay, but with the speed of today's computers it can't be that long.10:18
hangthedjgtk is so ugly though10:19
Jucatoyou can make it look like anything10:19
Jucatoanyway... /me is gone10:19
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wisecomHi@all. where do i find the default settings of the wlan network under feisty fawn? thanx for supporting my10:20
waylandbillthere's a setting to make gtk widgets take on the look of kde ones in system settings.10:20
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hangthedjits set to QT10:20
hangthedjon my machines.10:20
hangthedjbut gtk is still ugly10:21
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yendorBUT that matters little... I want to enable the 192.168  range on my routing table10:24
yendorI recently repaired my wifi & wired connection on kubuntu, but now I cannot access the router on 192.168.1.254.... can you help me with the route table please?10:24
hangthedjnice macro10:24
patrick__I was installing some software in W2K within VmWare when I had a message that made a comment along the lines of "IO error"10:25
patrick__I then had problems with the machine and had to reboot10:26
patrick__Now I get only a >grub command10:26
patrick__Tried accessing the drive with a live disk10:26
patrick__but could only access /etc10:26
patrick__had other errors stating "file system not known" for the other parts of the drive10:26
patrick__I'd appreciate any assistance offered with this10:27
enjoi1216kkathman i went to the website and it said that wine was not an emulator10:27
kkathmanits arguable each way10:27
kkathmanbut its does do a decent job of playing some windows games on linux10:27
enjoi1216ok like how so like break it down to me because i'm still kinda learning linux10:28
enjoi1216like how would you rate it yourself10:28
enjoi1216?10:28
waylandbillit's not an emulator. It's a compatability layer based on reverse engineered libraries.10:28
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enjoi1216you know something i could see it right now10:29
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enjoi1216windows trys to make a multiple desktop windows system and then they install it like the next operating system after Vista and they do an install and try to make like Kubuntu Linux and upon istallation ti blows the computer up10:31
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enjoi1216hey kkathman did you ever hear about the X Windows system blowing a comp up upon installation of Linux 6.010:32
enjoi1216i have heard it's actually possible10:32
kkathmandefine "blowing a comp up"10:33
mark105haha10:33
kkathmanIf you arent careful you can certainly damage hardware and even monitors10:33
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enjoi1216ok like i took a class on Red Hat Linux 6.010:33
kkathmanbut thats extremely rare nowadays because of the auto configuration tools10:34
enjoi1216well but see heres the thing10:34
enjoi1216like when our Teacher in college10:34
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kkathmanFedora is Red Hat's public, open offering10:34
combiniohow to install flash & java under Konqueror ??10:34
kkathman!flash | combinio10:35
Ubotucombinio: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash10:35
_4strOcombinio: you have it on firefox ?10:35
combinioi have no firefox... only opera10:35
kkathman!java | combinio10:35
Ubotucombinio: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.10:35
enjoi1216was teaching us to do a manual insatall with Red Hat Linux 6.0 he was reading and like the amount of megabytes that you need to set up your video card up for10:35
combiniosun-java5-jre - is already installed10:35
combinioso only flash10:35
kkathmanenjoi1216:  yah, the old way - you had to configure the range for veritcal and horizontal sweeps etc10:35
kkathmancombinio:  see what ubotu told you above for flash10:36
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combiniokkathman: i downloaded libflashplayer.so with some another 2 files10:36
combiniobut how to install it under Konqueror?10:37
enjoi1216but see the thing is like if you set up the software settings more then your alotted megabytes on your video card then it will strain everything so bad in 6.0 that i guess it can blow the video card up and cause a monitor explosion as well10:37
enjoi1216well kkathman it's just mindblowing that Linux software was designed that powerful10:38
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kkathmancombinio: in general, you only need to go to Konqueror- configure konq - and go to plugins -then have it look for the plugins10:38
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kkathmanenjoi1216:  well, powerful in the sense that years ago, if you didnt know what you were doing you could REALLY screw things up10:39
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kkathmanit forced you to "know" your hardware10:39
kkathmannow, not so much10:39
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enjoi1216hey kkathman can you give me hands on on what exact emulator to download and to help me get things setup because i was wanting to download myspace messenger10:40
combiniook it works - thank a lot! :)10:41
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kkathmanenjoi1216:  you might wanna check to see if thats compatible with wine10:41
enjoi1216because of friendship communication10:41
kkathmanenjoi1216:  go to http://frankscorner.org10:41
kkathmani think thats the right place10:41
kkathmanthey have lists of compatible games, programs that work under wine10:42
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hangthedjenjoi1216, myspace messenger doesn't really work with wine.10:42
kkathmanin general you are out of luck if the app uses active-x10:42
hangthedjit also doesn't work with that other proprietary company that i can't think of their name, but they use wine.10:42
enjoi1216yeah but see heres the thing Widnows XP is c:10:42
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hangthedjcrossover linux, myspace messenger doesn't work with crossover linux either.10:43
enjoi1216because thats what the new Win Kernel is because it's  got DOS stripped away from it because now it is it's oown indepent and New Kernel10:43
hangthedjyou have to install a virtual machine if you wanna run it.10:43
enjoi1216because i studied up on it10:43
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enjoi1216ok hang and how do i go about doing that10:44
enjoi1216ok well where do i need to go10:45
hangthedjYou can use virtualbox, vmware server qemu, but you have to install windows, and have a reg code.10:45
hangthedj!Virtualbox10:45
UbotuVirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox10:45
kumamotowhoever is looking for good support for windows emulation check out reactos10:46
kumamotohttp://www.reactos.org/en/index.html10:46
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kumamotokkathman: I believe cedega is the name u were looking for10:47
enjoi1216alright kkathman10:48
enjoi1216if you are going to be on tommorrow then hollar at me10:49
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enjoi1216no Ubotu i don't wanna go through all that hassle10:49
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josiah!dvd10:51
UbotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs10:51
hangthedjreactOS isn't a VM, it's an OS10:52
hangthedjduh.. hmm .. read the name .. sorry10:52
hangthedjits late.10:52
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pillowpantswhat version of kubuntu are you guys using10:59
pillowpantsfiesty?10:59
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kumamotofeisty\11:02
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sander_how can I change the settings of KNetworkManager back from "Manual network configuration" to the state where it automaticly picks the best connection?11:04
sander_And lists all availible connections11:04
sander_Running feisty btw11:04
lnx_what in kde is like gconf editor in gnome ?11:05
Jucatolnx_: nothing. there is basically no need for it11:06
emilsedghlnx_: KDE has no gconf :)11:06
JucatoKDE has most of its configurations available in Configure dialog boxes.11:07
Jucatoand for the few that aren't in there, KDE uses plain text config files11:07
emilsedghJucato: are you running Gutsy? and have your krecordmydesktop? Im trying to make a package for feisty, but its not running properly11:07
lnx_so how i can unmount drivers ( ntfs ) that ware mounted in the desktop ?11:07
Jucatolnx_: right-click on them -> Unmount?11:07
Jucatoemilsedgh: on gutsy, but don't have krecordmydesktop installed. why not try asking in #ubuntu-motu if it can be backported to feisty?11:08
lnx_Jucato , there isnt unmount in right click11:08
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emilsedghJucato: no im not yet experiented, but its not packaging problem, looks like krecordmydesktop is not running fine and is bogus11:09
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Jucatolnx_: in Konqueror, type media:/ in the address bar (or click on the system menu icon beside the K Menu and select Storage Media)11:09
Jucatoemilsedgh: what does experience have to do with it? I was just saying that you could request krecordmydesktop to be backported from gutys to feisty :)11:10
Jucatobackport basically means packaging something that exists in a more recent release to an older release11:10
cricrohi guys,i wante to know if anyone is able to help me;on festy,hard disk in slow.hdparm tell me11:10
cricro/dev/sda1:11:10
cricro Timing cached reads:   688 MB in  2.00 seconds = 343.46 MB/sec11:10
cricro Timing buffered disk reads:  140 MB in  3.02 seconds =  46.29 MB/sec11:10
cricrosorry11:11
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emilsedghJucato: I dont want to request somebody to do this, I want to learn packaging myself, thanks at all11:11
Jucatoemilsedgh: ok then. but #ubuntu-motu will still be the place to ask for packaging help/assistance :)11:11
lnx_Jucato , adn what next ?11:11
Jucatogood luck11:11
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emilsedghthanks11:11
Jucatolnx_: look for your ntfs drive, right-click -> Unmount11:12
Jucatoif no option is there, then it means it might be unmounted already11:12
_4strOor he as no permission to do that11:12
cricroCan anyone help me?my hard disk are very slow with Ubuntu:hdparm on sda1 Timing cached reads:   688 MB in  2.00 seconds = 343.46 MB/sec.on hda1  Timing cached reads:    454 MB in  2.05 seconds = 221.89 MB/sec11:12
_4strOhas*11:12
lnx_Jucato , i have found him but it have no "unmount" option11:13
Jucato_4strO: whether or not he has permission, at least the option "Unmount" will be there when he right-clicks on it :)11:13
Jucatolnx_: then it's not mounted (unmounted)11:13
lnx_it is , i see it on the desktop ( the driver not a shortcut )11:14
sander_How can I change the settings of KNetworkManager back from "Manual network configuration" to the state where it automaticly picks the best connection?11:14
Jucatolnx_: er... does the icon on the desktop have a green arrow?11:14
lnx_Jucato , no11:14
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Jucatolnx_: then it's not mounted :)11:14
Jucatoit's just displayed on your desktop, but not mounted11:15
cricrook,thank u :D11:15
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lnx_Jucato , its mounted on the /mdeia/hda7 but why it have an icon on desktop ?11:16
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Jucatoright-click on the desktop, Configure Desktop -> Behavior -> Device icons tab -> Uncheck "Unmounted Hard Disk Volume" maybe?11:16
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lnx_doesnt work11:19
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Jucatodoesn't know11:19
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_4strOmmm11:22
_4strOtoo late11:23
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mark105whats easyest way to configure my wireless to start at boot?11:27
sbucat?11:28
sbucatmark105: what are yyour problem11:28
Jucatomark105: knetworkmanager?11:28
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mark105nah im using knetworkmanager and it only seems to start it when i log in11:29
sbucatmark105: console =) is your friend  sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart11:29
sbucatmark105: mm  you can configure your file interfaces and then sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart11:29
JucatoI have an option here that says "Activiate when the computer starts"...11:29
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sbucatmark105: wifi open or with wpa wep?11:29
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mark105wep11:30
sbucatmark105: well...you must only configure your interfaces file and =) stop11:30
sbucatmark105: gedit /etc/network/interfaces11:31
sbucatmark105: or sudo kate  /etc/network/interfaces11:31
Jucato!kdesu11:31
sbucatmm sorry11:31
UbotuIn KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo11:31
sbucatmark105: or sudo gedit  /etc/network/interfaces11:31
Jucatohm.. we are in kubuntu...11:32
sbucat=) yea sorry11:32
Jucatogedit won't exist11:32
kdehlHi all, I have a problem with SCIM, I can't install it. I get "invoke-rc.d: initscript acpid, action "start" failed.", when it tries to setup acpid modules, or something. It seems to be a well-known error, according to Google, but the solution is to "install acpid from source", which I have no clue on how to do in Kubuntu. Can someone help me? Im in China, nad have a horrible chat lag, sorry for that.11:32
Jucatomark105: did you check the option to Activate when the computer starts?11:32
vltHello. Where can I change the background image of Konqueror in file browser mode?11:34
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Jucatovlt: View menu -> Configure Background11:34
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vltJucato: aaah, the "view" menu ... thanks11:37
Jucatoyeah. weird place to put it.. but at the same time logical if you think about it :)11:37
vlt(aaah, better)11:38
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vlt(I'm connected to my KDE desktop via a quite slow vnc connection. Everything works fine, except for switching to a Konqueror filebrowser window. Now w/o such a filigree bg image it's ok ;-)11:40
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rageagainstMShi11:42
rageagainstMSwhat a  partition prog for Kubuntu thanks11:42
rageagainstMShello?11:42
Jucato!info qtparted | rageagainstMS11:43
Uboturageagainstms: qtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu12 (feisty), package size 206 kB, installed size 720 kB11:43
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rageagainstMSJucato: k thanks very  mucho11:43
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somirani need help11:47
somirancan i load rpm package in kubuntu11:47
Jucato!rpm | somiran11:48
Ubotusomiran: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)11:48
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somiranubuntu.org11:48
somiranred hat package11:48
somiranhow dengerous11:49
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Jucatoit could mess up your system dangerous?11:49
somirani have install alien but i cant find it in my system tree11:49
somiranok that mean i should nt install rpm ok11:50
Jucato!alien11:50
UbotuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)11:50
Jucatohm... yeah. try to find a .deb file for it11:51
somiranok11:51
somiranany clue which deb file11:51
Jucatoum.. any clue what program you're trying to install?11:51
somiranits java runtime11:52
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somiranibm java11:52
Jucatowhy not just install from Add/Remove Programs?11:52
JucatoAdd/Remove Programs, search for Sun Java and install that11:52
somiranmy internate speed is very slow so i was trying that11:53
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somirani got that cd in pc world11:53
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somiranwhat does APT means11:54
Jucato!apt11:54
UbotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)11:54
Jucatoit's Debian's counterpart to RPM (the program)11:55
somiranwhich other linux distro use the same package manager11:55
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somiranso that i can use cds to load new application11:56
Jucatorpm? Red Hat/Fedora, Novell/openSUSE, PCLinuxOS, CentOS, etc etc etc11:56
Jucatohave you tried Add/Remove Programs? is it really too slow?11:57
somiranmy speed is slow11:57
Jucatoyou've tried it?11:57
somiranno i said apt11:58
somirannot rpm11:58
Jucatoapt? Debian, the whole Ubuntu family, MEPIS, KNOPPIX, and lots of others11:58
somiranya till all my application is loaded by add/remove manager or synaptic11:58
somiranok then if i got a knoppix cd then ican use that cd to install new application11:59
Jucato???11:59
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Jucatoknoppix is also based on debian, which uses .deb, not .rpm. which makes it not advisable to use rpm packages12:00
somirani mean to say as in window we can load new application from cd in ubuntu how can do that12:01
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somiranlet i have not installed amarok and i have a cd of knoppix which already have amarok as extra can i install that in my ubuntu12:04
somiranjucato?12:05
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emilsedghsomiran: no, not possible12:05
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somiranwhy12:06
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somiranas both of this distro use same package manager12:06
ChasingVertigosomiran: My guess is that it come precompiled for knoppix on the livecd (without the source youd need to use to compile it for ubuntu)?12:07
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somiranno its not live cd its a magazine cd with extra applications12:08
lnx_someone know where is this file :  .mplayer/gui.conf ?12:08
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llutzlnx_: in your home-folder, hidden12:08
somiranhow can i compile12:09
lnx_llutz , how i can view hidden ?12:10
emilsedghsomiran: why you want to compile? you can download already-compiled packages for ubuntu12:10
somiranhelp12:10
llutzlnx_: konquerer-view -show hidden12:10
jussi01lnx_: select show hidden files frome the view menu12:10
jussi01!compile | somiran12:11
Ubotusomiran: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)12:11
Jucatolnx_: or in Konqueror, just type ~/.mplayer/12:11
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Jucatosomiran: that cd from the magazine, does it contain another Linux distro? like KNOPPIX?12:11
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somiranya mepis12:11
Jucatothen use that. are you sure the cd doesn't have a .deb package for java?12:12
somirannot so sure12:13
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Jucatotry it. or try mepis. but if it has mepis, which is also Debian-based (uses .deb's), it should have .deb packages12:14
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ChasingVertigoI'm trying to get nvidia 3d acceleration working on Kubuntu, would I be more likely to succeed by installing nvidia-glx-new in Adept, or running the nvidia driver file from thier website?12:15
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Jucatodepends on your video card, you might need nvidia-glx-legacy, nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new12:16
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Jucato!nvidia | ChasingVertigo12:16
UbotuChasingVertigo: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:16
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ChasingVertigoShould I use nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new (That guide doesnt reference nvidia-glx-new)?12:22
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Jucatodepends on your video card12:22
ChasingVertigo8500GT12:22
Jucatoyou're on feisty right?12:23
ChasingVertigoKubuntu Feisty yeah12:23
ChasingVertigo* 7.0412:23
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Jucatolooks like nvidia-glx-new... but according to nvidia.com, you need the 100 driver, which is only in gutsy...12:26
ChasingVertigoDoes it come with gutsy?12:26
Jucato!info nvidia-glx-new gutsy12:27
Ubotunvidia-glx-new: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'new' driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 100.14.11+2.6.22.3-11.3 (gutsy), package size 4870 kB, installed size 14800 kB12:27
Jucatohttp://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/100.14.11/README/appendix-a.html that's the driver that supports your card12:27
Jucato!info nvidia-glx-new feisty-backports12:27
UbotuPackage nvidia-glx-new does not exist in feisty-backports12:27
Jucato!info nvidia-glx-new feisty12:27
Ubotunvidia-glx-new: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'new' driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 1.0.9755+2.6.20.5-16.29 (feisty), package size 4719 kB, installed size 14400 kB12:27
Jucato9755 is the latest in feisty, but it might work. not really sure12:28
ChasingVertigoOkay, I'll try with feisty, and if it fails upgrade to gutsy12:30
ChasingVertigoThankyou for helping me12:30
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jussi01hmmm, is there some documentation about getting the fingerprint reader to work on my hp lappy?12:33
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jussi01!wireless12:33
UbotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:33
combiniois there any program in linux alike to Windows Movie Maker ?12:34
jussi01combinio: kdenlive12:34
combiniojussi01: thx12:34
jussi01its not in the repos yet though12:34
combinio!info denlive12:34
UbotuPackage denlive does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas12:34
combinio!info kdenlive12:34
UbotuPackage kdenlive does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas12:34
jussi01!info kdenlive gutsy12:34
Ubotukdenlive: A Non-Linear Video Editing Suite for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5-0.0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 648 kB, installed size 1992 kB12:34
jussi01there you are12:35
combiniojussi01: but i have Fesity :/12:35
jussi01combinio: go find trevinhos repo, i think he has it12:35
combiniokub-7.04 and not Gutsy :}12:35
jussi01!trevinho12:35
UbotuSorry, I don't know anything about trevinho - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:35
jussi01gah12:35
lnx_there is something liek mozilla-mplayer for firefox but with kaffeine instead mplayer ?12:36
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jussi01!info kaffeine-mozilla | lnx_12:37
Ubotulnx_: kaffeine-mozilla: mozilla plugin that lanches kaffeine for supported media types. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.3.1.dfsg-0.1 (feisty), package size 25 kB, installed size 136 kB12:37
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jussi01lnx_: is that what you were looking for?12:38
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lnx_jussi01 , close to this , i can set it to open the video in the browser ?12:39
jussi01lnx_: I cant remember. Jucato you around?12:40
lnx_jussi01 , i dont care what just not mplayer with mozilla-mplayer plugin12:40
jussi01lnx_: so uninstall that, and install kaffeine-mozilla12:41
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lnx_jussi01 , yes this is waht i did but it open it external , i want it embed its posiblle ?12:42
jussi01lnx_: im not sure.12:42
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combiniowhere can i order CDs with Kubuntu 7.10 GG ??12:56
combiniois that CD available already ?12:56
combinio( i just want to have an oryginal CD )12:57
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judgen!nvidia01:01
UbotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:01
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shankyhi, I have tried to update my system using adept, but it required to restart kdm01:02
shankyand after the restart adept tell me that the apt database is blocked so I can't continue the update01:03
shankyany idea?01:03
vistakillerreboot your system01:03
vistakillerand try again01:03
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vistakillergive in terminal01:03
vistakillersudo apt-get update01:03
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hochimoowhen I am navigating around, firebug seems to be preventing the page from being displayed. I have to click on firebug or fiddle with it in some way for the page to be displayed01:06
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crazy_busI've got a ogg theora video which I'm trying to play in kaffeine.  But while the audio is fine the video is really jerky.  Why is this and how can I fix it?01:38
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JuJuBeeanybody ever use clonezilla?01:40
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dacorri would try xmms to see if it is jerky in all playes or just kafine01:42
dacorrif it is all then its the codecs, unless your playing from a cd01:42
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lounge-about=/01:45
lounge-aboutanyone know anything about seting up an sql db?01:45
crazy_busogg theora is video.  So I don't think xmms plays it01:45
emilsedghlounge-about: whats the problem?01:46
lounge-aboutheres the sittuation01:46
lounge-aboutive setup my LAMP server01:46
emilsedghgo on lounge-about01:46
lounge-aboutand im trying to setup IPB forums as well01:46
emilsedghand...01:47
lounge-aboutbut when it ask for the sql info and stuff i dont have an answer for it01:47
lounge-aboutbecause i dont have a database made yet01:47
emilsedghlounge-about: username is root (when you install it)01:47
lounge-about...because i dont know how or what to use to make it01:47
emilsedghlounge-about: password is nothing, leave it blank01:47
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emilsedghlounge-about: is it asking about database name?01:48
lounge-aboutya01:48
emilsedghlounge-about: so do this in kosnole01:48
emilsedghmysql -u root01:49
emilsedghCREATE DATABASE yourDatabaseName;01:49
emilsedghlounge-about: then yourDatabaseName will the name of database :)01:49
lounge-abouthmmk01:49
lounge-aboutand so when it ask to connect to it..01:50
emilsedghlocalhost01:50
lounge-aboutthis is everything its asking for:01:50
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lounge-aboutSQL Host:localhost01:50
lounge-about  Database Name:01:51
lounge-about  SQL Username:01:51
lounge-about  SQL Password:01:51
lounge-about  SQL Table Prefix:ibf_01:51
lounge-about  MySQL Table Type01:51
lounge-aboutUse MyISAM if01:51
lounge-aboutok01:51
jussi01!enter01:51
UbotuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!01:51
jussi01and01:51
emilsedghlounge-about: i told you about Host, Database Name, username and password, do not touch the others01:51
jussi01!paste01:51
Ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)01:51
lounge-aboutok, let me try this and see what happens01:52
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lounge-aboutonce i do the CREATE DATABASE dbname01:55
lounge-aboutit returns me to a --> line01:55
lounge-aboutlike its waiting for something else01:55
emilsedghlounge-about: ;01:55
emilsedghlounge-about: put a semi-colon (;) and enter :)01:56
lounge-aboutsyntax error01:56
emilsedghlounge-about: there should be a semicolon in the end of every SQL command01:56
emilsedghCREATE DATABASE name;01:56
emilsedghdo this, do not forget the ; at the end of the line01:57
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lounge-aboutok there we go01:57
lounge-abouti think maybe i hit spacebar or something the first time...oh well, "Query ok"01:58
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lounge-aboutsweet progress!01:59
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emilsedghlounge-about: yes, but if you want an easier way, install phpmyadmin02:00
emilsedghlounge-about: thats in repositories02:01
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lounge-abouti did02:01
lounge-aboutand mysqladmin02:01
lounge-aboutand 1 other i believe02:01
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emilsedghlounge-about: but using the mysqlclient from command-line should be the best, learns you how to use SQL commands :)02:02
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gustavopgadmin302:02
lounge-aboutsuccess!02:03
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gustavolounge-about: you need the ";" on the end of commands, otherwise sql doesnt knows ur command has ended02:04
lounge-aboutgotcha02:04
lounge-abouti got to work guys02:04
lounge-aboutthankyou02:04
lounge-aboutthe forums are now up and running02:04
hochimoowhen I am navigating around, firebug seems to be preventing the page from being displayed. I have to click on firebug or fiddle with it in some way for the page to be displayed02:05
lounge-aboutand accessible from outside my network02:05
gustavohochimoo: so? it doesnt seems to a question02:05
emilsedghlounge-about: oh!02:05
emilsedghlounge-about: so, you have to change the username and password :)02:05
lnx_in konq how i can make the folder always be before the files ?02:06
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lounge-aboutfor security reasons....yes that would be smart idea02:06
hochimoogustavo eh?02:06
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emilsedghlnx_: View->sort->Foders First :)02:06
lounge-aboutbut i think i can take it from here02:07
lounge-aboutif not...lol ill back XD02:07
emilsedgh:P02:07
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emilsedghlnx_: please try to find things, if you didnt find, we will be happy to tell you02:08
gustavohochimoo: if you want help, be objective02:09
lnx_emilsedgh , strange i dont find it , maybe its because i use "list view" ?02:09
emilsedghyes, thats the reason, but folders are first in list view, at least for me02:10
emilsedghlnx_: ah, click on the File type column, button02:11
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ryarenhi02:15
ryarenWhich DC client do you offer?02:15
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wittfellaHello, how do I let a normal user mount a drive? i added 'user' to the fstab line, but ut keeps saying must be root.  mounts fine when root.02:29
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emilsedghwittfella: you could change pemissions from systemSettings->Advanced->Disks & filesystems02:30
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wittfellahey emilsedgh, its a smbfs to my windows drive, so its not listed in filesystems yet02:32
emilsedghwittfella: so i dunno02:32
fkmDid someone here ever use KFileReplace?02:32
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hanzhow do i get nvidia drivers on kde, i was told "restricted drivers", but isn't that just in gnome?02:35
lucky_lucasIt's in kubuntu gutsy02:36
hanzis it poss to upgarde to that and is it ok to use?02:37
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Jucato!nvidia02:39
UbotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:39
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sander_How can I change the settings of KNetworkManager back from "Manual network configuration" to the state where it automaticly picks the best connection?02:40
lucky_lucasGutsy is risky to use now02:40
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Jucatowell not really,... been using gusty since tribe 502:40
Jucatopre-tribe 502:40
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lucky_lucasHehe me too, but there are some surprise though read the forum.02:41
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hanzhow do i up to gusty then?02:41
lucky_lucasAre you shure you want to up to gutsy ?02:42
Jucatojust for nvidia? :)02:43
lucky_lucasthere is something like update-manager -d or something like that to enable the jump to gutsy fon't what  exactly it is02:43
lucky_lucasplease read : dont' know what exactly02:44
hanzthe must be other resons to up to it, i don't mind a bit of messing around, been on gnome for a while and got bored02:44
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lucky_lucasbut you can get restricted manager in feisty too02:45
Jucatobut with the GNOME/Ubuntu dependencies only02:45
lucky_lucasyou can look for restricted-manager in adept02:45
lucky_lucasor aptitude02:45
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lucky_lucasThat's why I installed ubuntu-desktop to enable it02:46
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hanzsound, ill give it a spin, cheers02:48
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geniiJucato: Thank you very much sir :)02:49
Jucatowelcome very much :)02:49
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geniiI guess I should have brought enough for everyone :) Although today only TimBits02:52
ScorpKinghi genii!02:52
geniiScorpKing: Hiya02:52
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ScorpKinghave fun. g2g :(02:53
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BluesKajhowdy All  :)02:58
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BluesKajNeed Coffee!02:58
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Jucatohappy? :)02:59
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geniiI dunno why I'm in such a good mood today. the weather kinda sucks and it's the middle of the week03:03
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BluesKajgenii, thx :)03:03
geniiBluesKaj: Anytime03:04
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BluesKajnice here sunny and clear, but a bit cool 12C03:04
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geniiIt's getting sunny here now. but earlier was grey, windy and you could see your breath.03:05
BluesKajthat reminds me, gotta go uncover my tomatoes03:05
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geniithe CBC tells me it's snowing somewhere between Manitoba and Ontario03:05
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ksivajigenii hi03:06
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BluesKajup around cochrane , genii03:07
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geniiksivaji: Hi03:13
BluesKajGood! the .ca repos are back up and running03:13
geniiAlrite!03:13
geniiksivaji: Did you get the RAM thing figured out?03:14
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ksivajigenii no i dont find any option in BIOS to change that03:15
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geniiksivaji: Likely you do not have onboard video card then.03:15
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ksivajiho03:15
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ksivajiyou mean i have a separate vedio card03:17
BluesKajksivaji, did you do a " lspci | grep video " to find your video controller ?03:17
ksivajiBluesKaj i am not getting any output for  lspci | grep video03:18
BluesKajbummer03:18
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Jucatolspci | grep -i vga03:19
BluesKajahha03:19
ksivaji01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. S3 Unichrome Pro VGA Adapter (rev 01)03:19
Jucatoit's an IGP I think03:20
BluesKajright jucato, was wondering , the grep video shows my tv tuner card ...video is onboard03:20
ksivajiBluesKaj what ?03:20
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BluesKajksivaji, the lspci grep video command only shows my TV tuner card , not this card which is onboard :VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 [Radeon Xpress 200G Series] 03:22
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BluesKajso Jucato's suggestion: lspci | grep -i vga is the correct one for onboard video detection03:23
Jucatohe already pasted the output :)03:23
Jucatoit's an S3 (onboard)03:23
ksivajii have vedio card right ? still my system doesnt supports games why ?03:24
Jucatoyour video card is onboard/IGP, which means it shares/eats a part of your RAM. second, I don't think S3 has 3D hardware acceleration, which most games require03:26
BluesKajJucato, yes , but i just wanted make it clear , since he asked me, (what ?)03:26
JucatoI have an S3 as well. but I haven't used it since the day I bought a real video card :)03:26
geniiThe unichrome cards are one of the oddball cards for drivers. There is an openchrome driver but it's flakey. The default X unichrome driver I have heard has issues also03:26
Jucato(which was 2 years ago?)03:26
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JucatoI think I've only tried to use my unichrome in Linux once and only once03:27
Jucatoand I never tried to look for 3D acceleration03:27
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xdemonhi all!03:27
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xdemoncan't set russian keyboard03:27
xdemonwho can help me?03:28
Jucato!ru03:29
Ubotu   #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke03:29
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jussi01!adeptfix03:32
UbotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 03:32
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geniix-demon: Use the method for Debian Sarge here for changing keyboard and language: http://www.thoughtpolice.co.uk/vmware/howto/1-minute-guide.html03:33
geniiHmm03:34
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geniiHeh further down the list there it actually has 7.04 which i did not see at first LOL03:34
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Jucatotsk tsk.. someone needs more coffee :)03:35
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gustavo i have a link on "applications menu" that doesnt work, how can i solve this? any kind of symbolic link on "/usr/share/applications" or something like it?03:37
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poison--morning03:40
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Jucatoer.. morning :)03:41
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thomas1the only way to configure openssh-server is to do it through console or text file? NO GUI?03:41
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gustavoyou are not on windows hehe03:43
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ksivaji!emerge03:45
UbotuSorry, I don't know anything about emerge - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:45
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geniiksivaji: emerge is more a gentoo-ism03:47
sander_Can KDE4 Beta 2 show the replacement of kicker?03:48
sander_I only get two of those grey boxes03:48
emilsedghsander_: no03:48
sander_emilsedgh: k... clear :)03:49
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sander_so not useable at all for a beta03:49
chtren?03:49
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emilsedghsander_: 1)Kicker Replacement becomes functional after the Beta2 release 2)Plasma is not being developed in playground, which means will not included in default, it should be moved into trunk in for Beta3, I think03:49
emilsedghsander_: I hope that Beta3 will include a functional Plasma03:50
sander_emilsedgh: okay.. so I'll continue to work with KDE3 till then :)03:50
emilsedghsander_: Im waiting for Beta3 to 'try' to work with it as the main desktop03:51
Jucatosander_, emilsedgh: the rest of the plasmoids are in trunk/playground/base/plasma but the kicker replacement isn't complete yet03:51
hydrogen no03:51
hydrogenwell03:51
hydrogenyea03:51
Jucatoall it has is a KDE icon, taskbar, and clock03:51
hydrogenI misread what you said03:51
hydrogen:)03:51
Jucato:)03:51
emilsedghJucato: playground is not being packaged03:51
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Jucatoemilsedgh: yes it isn't03:51
ksivajigenii what is ism03:52
Jucatoat least not by Kubuntu03:52
Jucatogenii: haha! :P03:52
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emilsedghJucato: AFAIK, suse guys didnt make packages for it too03:52
geniiksivaji: ism in the ay I meant there is like a way of thinking,eg: gentoo thinking03:52
geniior habit etc03:52
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Jucatoa noun-forming suffix: changes the root word into a system of thought, a way of looking at things, or a worldview. www.summit.org/resource/dictionary/03:53
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Jucatogenii: next time don't expect everyone speaks/understands good Engrish :P03:54
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geniiJucato: Very true, assuming things is occasionally dangerous03:55
Jucatogenii: you also run the risk of losing the joke :)03:55
BluesKajyeah , like the word impact ...never was a verb until the californai spin doctors started using it03:56
geniihmm03:56
BluesKajor should i say caliph-ornia03:56
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BluesKajanyway . I'm still looking for an  IPtrace app that actually works ...xtraceroute gives up too easily and there's no way of really configuring it03:59
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BluesKajwish neotrace could be ported/written for linux or whatever theproper term is.04:01
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gundam_rx78nt1How can I change my default kdm login screen? I want to change the background from the default Kubuntu blue to something else...04:15
lounge-aboutkdmsetup04:15
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gundam_rx78nt1is that an application?04:17
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ubuserhow do i mount a hard drive from ubuntu livecd04:17
emilsedghgundam_rx78nt1: run it!04:18
lounge-aboutsorry gundam it may not work...i was thinking gdmsetup for gnome04:18
ubuseri need to create some partitions by fdisk /dev/hdb but it doesn't work04:18
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emilsedghgundam_rx78nt1: systemSettings->Advanced04:18
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lnx_how i can instal Pidgin on kubuntu ( not gaim ) ?04:19
emilsedghgundam_rx78nt1: then go to the Login manager04:19
gundam_rx78nt1because I went and made changes on the settings control panel for kde. It still shows the darn blue login screen.04:19
gundam_rx78nt1emilsedgh, I am using kubuntu.04:19
llutzlnx_: compile it from source or install the .deb from getdeb.net04:19
emilsedghgundam_rx78nt1: systemSettings->Advanced->Login Manager, in Kubuntu04:20
lnx_llutz , i cant add source to adept or something like this ?04:20
gundam_rx78nt1I did make the changes there. It will still show the blue login page, once I log in, it shows the background wallpaper I selected but that is not04:20
gundam_rx78nt1what I would like to do.04:20
gundam_rx78nt1I want to change the default blue background on the login page.04:21
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poison--weird stuff04:27
lnx_i have an "konversation" shortcut icon on desktop and the word is warp like "conversati" new line and then "on" how i can able my desktop to have along shortcut names ?04:27
poison--dlin linux_mce-dvd, its 3.75GB with ktorrent04:27
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poison--it says its already at 3.76GBs and contiues to dl04:28
gundam_rx78nt1emilsedgh, is there anywhere else to change the login screen on kubuntu?  I know there ways to change it on gnome in ubuntu, but I would really like to get rid of the default blue background login screen.04:29
emilsedghgundam_rx78nt1: you could change it from systemSettings->Advanced->Login Manager->Background, I dunno whats the problem?04:30
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gundam_rx78nt1emilsedgh, I have made changes in the Login manager. It doesn't change the background on the login screen. It shows up with the default kubuntu login. after I login, it then show the background I wanted but just momentarily until the default splash screen appears.04:32
elvishey04:32
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emilsedghgundam_rx78nt1: sorry i dunno then, maybe you should file a bug report ?04:33
geniigundam_rx78nt1: replace in file /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/kubuntu/kubuntu.xml <normal file="/usr/share/wallpapers/kubuntu-wallpaper.png" /> with <normal file="/my/path/to/mycustombackground.png" />04:33
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geniior comment out the line04:34
gundam_rx78nt1genii, let me try that.04:34
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BFChi! can anybody recommend a plain text editor that can compare two documents?04:35
BFCI need it to compare to .php files04:35
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geniigundam_rx78nt1: Remember xml comment syntax is <!04:35
emilsedghBFC: kdiff, i think04:36
BFCemilsedgh: ok. i'll check it out04:36
emilsedghkdiff3, BFC :)04:36
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BFCthanks!!04:37
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luhhi04:42
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luhwhen trying to resize my monitor in the system settings, and i push apply afterwards, it is always set to the lowest again after reopening of the program04:42
luhwhat am i doing wrong?04:43
poison--nutin, your card just dont take it04:43
poison--like mine here04:43
BluesKajluh are you using admin mode ?04:43
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luhBluesKaj, yes04:43
poison--im usin 800x600 (sic) cause theres no drivers for it04:43
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poison--it sucks04:43
damianespacio linux04:43
damianespacio-linux04:44
luhand it doesn't matter which one i set it to, 800x600 or 1024x76804:44
BluesKajluh , so you have your monitor drivers setup to your make and model , just like one does for the graphics card ?04:44
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luhyep04:45
ksivajihow to enable direct rendering04:45
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BluesKajluh, sometimes a relogin will reset the settings to your last preferences04:46
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luhbut why?04:47
BluesKajX needs to be reset , not sure04:47
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luhbut it doesn't even go that far that i reload the x04:49
luhit just doesn't save the configuration of that i set in system setting04:49
luh+s04:49
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gundam_rx78nt1genii, thank you. that is what I wanted to do.04:50
gundam_rx78nt1I owe you a drink.04:50
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BluesKajluh,have reloggged in ?...try it04:52
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luhBluesKaj, yes04:52
luhbut if the data doesn't get saved in the first place it doesn't help me04:53
geniigundam_rx78nt1: Glad to help04:53
luhso first the data needs to get saved, than the x server restarted04:53
luhbut i have no clue wtf it doesn'T save my data04:53
luhwhich file would i need to edit by hand?04:53
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Devious_hi all04:56
emilsedgh!hi | Devious_04:56
UbotuDevious_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!04:56
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ksivaji!grub05:00
Ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto05:00
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ksivajihow to mount a iso file05:04
ksivaji!iso05:04
UbotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.05:04
llutzksivaji: sudo mount -o loop file.iso /mnt05:04
ksivajillutz thanks05:05
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AzzcoKonqueror keeps crashing for me and isn't giving me any errors in the console...05:07
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BluesKajluh , I guess if you reconfigure xserver-xorg file with different monitor and graphics card driver settings , the changes may stick , but sometimes that can be risky if you don't know what range settings the monitor can handle05:08
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luhi'll try randr05:08
luhi did already try dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg05:09
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BluesKajwhat driver is the monitor using05:09
csandersim having a hell of a time getting hardware acceleration to work with my ATI card, Ive tried dozens of tut's, nothing is seeming to work, when I run glxgears, it says DRI is not working05:10
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csandersdoes anyone have fglrx ATI dual monitor Kubuntu system running ?05:10
csandersLogs:05:10
csanders[drm]  failed to load kernel module "fglrx"05:10
csanders(WW) fglrx(0): Failed to open DRM connection05:10
BluesKajcsanders, have you tried this tutorial :http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty05:11
csandersno, but I will try again05:11
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BluesKajcsanders, it uses a patched and modded fglrx driver which provides3D and DRI for most Radeon pci and onboard cards05:12
csandersit took me forever to get dual monitors, im almost afraid to mess it up now :(05:12
csandersoh sweet05:12
csandersthats what i have ;)05:12
BluesKajwhich card csanders?05:12
csandersradeon 130005:13
csandersbut this is amd64 :(05:13
BluesKajthe tutorial works for my X200G onboard05:13
BluesKajuhoh05:14
csandersyea, amd64 is a huge PITA, I wont be going that route again05:14
BluesKajdon't think it'll work05:14
luhBluesKaj, i can't check05:15
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luhthe computer is not in my town, and the person isn't there any more05:15
BluesKaji havw AMD 64 as well , but running 32bit x86 after too many probs with the 64bit version05:15
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BluesKajluh, ok so you aren't doing a remote pc setup ?05:17
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luhi haven't been able to give him dyndns yet. the important part is the yet ;)05:17
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srcnixHi all, does anyone have any experience in installing Kubuntu on a Inspiron 9400?05:19
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Daisuke_Idoallow me, if i may, to vent for a moment05:21
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Daisuke_Idothere is a section in the forums for ubuntu dell support.  that's for the friggin dells sold with ubuntu, not any old retarded dell you want!05:21
savetheWorldgo ahead05:21
Daisuke_Idonow05:22
Daisuke_Idosrcnix: is that a newer model?05:22
Daisuke_Idopossibly the livecd won't work?05:22
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savetheWorldDaisuke_Ido: Linux has been getting installed on Inspirons for a looooooong time  already.05:22
Daisuke_IdosavetheWorld: yeah, and that's fine, but the dell support forum is for machines sold with ubuntu that are specifically built TO support ubuntu05:23
savetheWorldDaisuke_Ido: yes and thats fine too.  i just didnt see anything here where srcnix was doing anything in that forum. he asking in here wherer its on topic.  afaik.05:24
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Daisuke_IdosavetheWorld: that's the unrelated venting part05:26
savetheWorldoh, Ok then! :-)05:26
Daisuke_Idoand then i went back to try and help him by asking a couple questions :)05:26
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savetheWorldand he steadfastly ignored you, the little bugger!05:26
csandersBluesKaj:  how do you run x86 on 64 , is their a distro for it ?05:26
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Daisuke_Idocsanders: what?05:27
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srcnixDaisuke_Ido, Yes it is, sorry for the short reply.05:28
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csandersBluesKaj: said he had alot of problems with running amd64 and now hers just running 32 bit apps, im wondering how do do that Daisuke_Ido05:28
Daisuke_Idointel core 2 duo...  santa rosa?05:28
srcnixDaisuke_Ido, The problem is the live install CD doesn't work.05:28
srcnixDaisuke_Ido, Indeed05:28
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srcnixDaisuke_Ido, So I was wondering if the alternative CD would work.05:28
Daisuke_Idosrcnix: you're going to have to install from the altcd05:28
srcnixDaisuke_Ido, ;) Gotcha! ;)05:29
Daisuke_Idothis *should* be fixed with gutsy, but it's a known problem with the santa rosa05:29
Daisuke_Idocsanders: you just install the 32 bit version05:29
Daisuke_Idoi'm using the 32 bit version on an amd6405:29
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Daisuke_Idoall of your 32 bit OSes/software will still run on a 64 bit processor, since x64 is juat an extension to the x86 architecture05:30
BluesKajcsanders, I reinstalled 32bit but there is a script (I found this out after the fact) that allows one to run as 32bit on the 64 bit version .... anyone know what it i't called?05:31
BluesKajDaisuke_Ido, unfortunately not all, some drivers won't work on the 64 that work on 3205:32
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Daisuke_Idoreally?05:35
Daisuke_Idoi haven't found any05:35
Daisuke_Idoi would think that a 32 bit driver would work on a 32 bit OS, even if that OS is running on a 64 bit processor...05:36
aguitelwhen i restard or shutdown my laptop my video gets uggly ,anyone know about this ?05:36
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kaminix3How do I enable conversation logging in Kopete?05:39
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Jucatokaminix3: go to Settings -> Configure Plugins -> History plugin. it's enabled by default, but actually disabled. so uncheck it first, then click Apply, then check it, and click Apply again05:40
kaminix3Thanks Jucato :)05:40
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kaminix3And where will my logs be saved?05:42
somiranwhat does .deb file mean05:42
kaminix3somiran: Debian Package, the format used by apt.05:42
geniisomiran: .deb is short for debia.05:42
geniidebian05:42
geniibah typos05:42
somiranok05:43
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geniikaminix3: Thanks LOL05:43
somiranknoppix has it ?05:43
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Jucatokaminix3: you can view them through Kopete. right-click on the contact and select View History05:43
kaminix3Knoppix has a file manager?05:43
geniiDistributions which came from debian use this, knoppix is one of those05:43
llutzsomiran: all debian-based distros have it05:43
Jucatooh him again :)05:43
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somiranhow can i install a application from knoppix cd to my ubuntu withoput downloading it from ubuntu as my speed is very slow05:44
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poison--everytime i try to axx the share of my kubuntu machine with a windows pc, it asks me for a username and pwd05:45
poison--any ideas where i setup dat05:45
somiransorry jucato but i really need help that time i have some patien to attend05:45
somiransome patient05:45
llutzsomiran: that hardly woould work, knoppix packages are made for knoppix and not ubuntu. their dependencies etc. will fail on most other distros05:46
geniisomiran: Using .deb files from a different distribution like knoppix for instance is not recommended.05:47
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somiranis there any other way to install apllication in ubuntu without internet05:47
Jucatogenii: basic background. he has a slow internet. he needs to install stuff from a cd he got from a pc magazine05:48
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geniiJucato: OK thanks :)05:48
Jucatoearlier he was asking about installing an .rpm for java from that cd05:48
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poison--lol05:48
geniisomiran: If the application is on the ubuntu install cdrom you can install it. there is a command apt-cdrom for this, to add a cdrom to the list of repositories ubuntu looks05:49
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somiranyes i have told that but as i am new so i am wondering05:49
geniisomiran: If you have faster internet another place, you can download the .deb files that way and then put them after into /var/cache/apt/archives    on the box without internet to install them as well05:50
Delrin500how can i have my linux machine automount a NTFS usb drive? I installed Automatix but it still doesn't work anyone have any ideas?05:50
genii!automatix05:50
UbotuAutomatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)05:51
poison--u should try diskmounter05:51
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poison--!diskmounter05:51
UbotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse05:51
Delrin500diskmounter? is that easy to use?05:51
poison--yep05:51
poison--no worrys05:52
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Delrin500hell thanks guys... i didn't think it would be so easy to get info05:53
somiranthank u genii05:53
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geniisomiran: Good luck and you are welcome05:53
Delrin500anyone know how to get Firefox to be my default browser  instead of Konqueror05:53
evanshi Derlin05:54
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Delrin500hello evans05:55
Delrin500how is it going?05:55
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evansim fine,i want to assist you05:56
bibsthahi all, whats the shortcut to switch keyboard layout? cant figure it out05:56
Delrin500ok05:56
Delrin500shoot05:56
bibsthaalso i looked into system settings and don't see where to set it05:56
Delrin500how do i change default browsers05:56
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poison--within firefox configs05:56
Jucatobibstha: System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Keyboard Shortcuts05:56
evansyou go to Preferences then Preferred applications05:57
BluesKajDelrin500, sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser05:57
Delrin500it is a pain i don't use Konqueror very often and when ever i click on a link it opens using it instead of Firebox05:57
Jucatobibstha: default is Ctrl+Alt+K I think05:57
evansit will give u an option to change your defaults05:57
JucatoDelrin500: follow the command BluesKaj gave05:57
bibsthactrl +alt + k works05:57
bibstha:) nice05:57
Daisuke_Idoevans: are you using kde or gnome?05:57
Jucatoevans: the one in System Settings only affects KDE apps though05:57
Delrin500Blues>sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser         this is it???05:57
bibsthastrange that layout addition was inside regional and language05:58
evansgnome05:58
bibsthabut keyboard shortcut setting is at another place05:58
Daisuke_Idothis is #kubuntu.  kde users.05:58
bibsthaJucato, oh??05:58
BluesKajDelrin500, you may also want to change your default browser in you IRC cliet, system settings/default applications, etc05:58
Delrin500Hell!!! thanks Blues that was super easy05:58
Delrin500you guys are awesome05:58
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Delrin500thank you very much05:58
Jucatobibstha: Keyboard Layout is a regional setting. Keyboard shortcuts aren't05:58
BluesKajhehe, yer welcome Delrin50005:59
bibsthaJucato, :-) just figured, thanks05:59
Jucatobibstha: it just so happens that you're looking for the keyboard shortcut to change keyboard layout :P05:59
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poison--!samba05:59
Ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT05:59
bibsthaJucato, can't help it but took a lot of time wasting in google05:59
mefisto__Delrin500: in system settings > default applications ?05:59
Delrin500i am a Windows admin and Linux is not my specialty so i appriecate the help...06:00
bibsthaJucato, anyway it can be done globally? while not in kde?06:00
Jucatobibstha: there's a search bar in System Settings too :)06:00
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Jucatobibstha: nope. sorry. KDE only affects KDE06:00
bibsthaaah06:00
bibsthascim is easy06:00
bibsthaand works globally06:00
Jucatomefisto__: that way only affects KDE apps. If he were to click a link in a non-KDE app (GAIM/Pidgin or whatever) it would still launch in Konqi unless he changes the alternatives06:01
bibsthai wonder how its done with xkb06:01
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Jucatobibstha: but scim is an app that is running. it has it's own shortcuts. the Ctrl+Alt+K is a shortcut for KDE. it wouldn't affect GNOME06:01
bibsthaooh,06:02
bibsthaso no such app for xkb?06:02
Jucatowouldn't know. sorry06:02
bibsthaJucato, ooh no problem, but thanks again06:03
poison--can anyone help me axx my linux share trough a windows machine06:03
poison--lmao06:03
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bibsthaJucato, i used to be on scim, i run openbox and strangely when im on kde apps, input sometimes automatically switches to xkb06:04
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BluesKajhehe06:04
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evansbye06:05
BluesKajwife use old windows pc for her solitaire and surf/email ...it's 8 yrs old and still chugging along :)06:05
poison--in fact my issue is dat i dled linux mce dvd in this laptop, and its too slow to burn it, so i need to transfer it to the win machine06:05
poison--specs cant take it06:05
poison--:(06:05
poison--cant ask much from a VIA laptop lmao06:05
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geniipoison--: install samba. Then share the directory the iso is in.06:06
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neosixhello people!!!06:07
poison--already did06:07
poison--amn thing keeps asking me for a username and pwd06:07
poison--i type the one i use for login in kubuntu and it doenst work06:07
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BluesKajgenii, samba refuse me acces from wife's windows pc to the linux partition on this box ..the reverse is no prob and windows to windows works great06:08
geniipoison--: if your kubuntu login is user do:      sudo smbpasswd -ae user06:08
geniipoison--: Then make sure the iso is owned by that user as well06:08
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poison--lemme try06:08
Delrin500should i use the experimental NTFS writting support? it is not reccomended, when installing diskmounter06:08
Delrin500?06:09
neosixdoes anybody know some good mp3 organizer like "Where is it"?06:09
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BluesKajDelrin500, ntfs-3g ?06:09
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Delrin500Blues> not sure it says "06:10
Delrin500As of Ubuntu 6.04 (Dapper Drake) there is slightly more NTFS writing support06:10
Delrin500through a very experimental NTFS FUSE module. Using this seems to work but06:10
Delrin500is NOT recommended.06:10
poison--wow.. it worked06:10
poison--lmao06:10
poison--thanks geii06:10
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poison--genii even06:10
geniipoison--: np. glad to be of help06:10
BluesKajDelrin500, accessing windows partitions from linux , use ntfs-3g and ntfs config06:10
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BluesKajerr ntfs-config06:11
Delrin500so diskmounter is not the way to go?06:11
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BluesKajdunno Delrin500 ...I've never used diskmounter06:11
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Delrin500oh ok06:12
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BluesKajDelrin500, but I do know that ntfs-3g and ntfs-config allows me ato read/write to my windows parition apps06:12
Delrin500well i am going to give it a try and if it doesn't work I will use your reccomendation... I have already started installing it06:13
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Delrin500is ntfs -3g the app or the command line script ?06:13
BluesKajok Delrin500 , let us know how that works out06:13
sam1338anybody know any sli motherboard names?06:13
sam1338quad sli i mean06:13
geniiDelrin500: it's the app. ntfs-config the config tool you run after it installs06:13
Jucatogenii: you need more coffee.. it's 6.06(.1)06:13
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mefisto__Delrin500: ntfs-3g is great. it saved my ntfs disk that windows chkdsk screwed up and made inaccessible. ntfs-3g allowed me to access everything to back up data06:14
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geniiJucato: Nah, you need the coffee LOL    "[12:10]  <Delrin500> As of Ubuntu 6.04 (Dapper Drake) there is slightly more NTFS writing suppor"06:14
Jucatohaha oh yeah06:15
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JucatoI need to scroll up more :)06:15
BluesKajdon't we all06:15
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jetsaredi1where is the lock file that is used by the package management systems?06:15
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genii!aptfix06:15
UbotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 06:15
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geniiIn that place is the lock file06:15
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jetsaredi1genii: thanks06:16
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ksivajiplease help me i tried to install widows after kubuntu .but i didnt complete windows installation ,i terminated installation after partitioning disk now i cant boot kubuntu grub says no such partition06:16
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ksivajigenii  BluesKaj any suggestion06:18
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Jucato!windows06:19
UbotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents06:19
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Jucato!grub06:19
Ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto06:19
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Jucatofirst link ksivaji06:19
ksivajibut i didnt complete installation06:20
poison--lol@!windows06:20
geniiksivaji: Better to put windows first then ubuntu so grub doesn't bet wiped out by windows mbr06:20
Jucatoksivaji: yeah. but you need to recover GRUB nonetheless06:20
Jucatoso you need that link06:20
Jucatolet it be a lesson not to install windows06:20
Jucatohehe j/k06:20
ksivajigenii i dont want windows06:21
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geniiksivaji: Because of the place you terminated the install, right after partitioning, it may be a bit tricky to recover from06:21
kristjan_is where a command that will "cd here?"06:22
Jucatokristjan_: cd .06:22
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BluesKajksivaji, download and and burn supergrub disk - bootloader restore disk ...itwill help you restore grub and mbr dfor windows06:22
ksivajiBluesKaj ya  i tried that also grub says no such partition06:23
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geniiksivaji: Are you on a livecd right now?06:23
ksivajibut it is not acutally deleted i can see the / folders  from live cd06:23
ksivajiyes genii06:24
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Delrin500one last question how do i set the detailed list view as the default view in Konqueror for browsing the file system?? the icons are really annoying06:24
BluesKajI guess not, but you have testore the linux grub menu by using the disk , then you can retry reinstalling windows06:24
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BluesKajerr ksivaji06:25
ksivajiBluesKaj err means06:25
BluesKajyou06:25
BluesKajmy last entry . ksivaji06:26
geniiksivaji: It may be useful for you to pastebin these things for us:     result of command    sudo fdisk -l         result of command   mount06:26
geniiafk, cig.3-4 mins06:26
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BluesKajgenii, ya gotta quit06:26
mefisto__Delrin500: the way I did it is in konqueror settings>file associations, expand inode and select directory. Then go to the Embedding tab and move the default view you want to the top of the list.06:27
ksivajihttp://pastebin.com/m44a818b406:27
mefisto__Delrin500: also, you might want to do the same for inode system_directory06:27
ksivajigenii Bluekaj my root partition was at /dev/hdb3 but it is in hdb206:28
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SolifugusWhere is the printer job manager?06:29
Jackal! flash06:29
UbotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash06:29
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ksivaji:'(06:29
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ksivajigenii Bluekay so06:30
Delrin500well thanks for all the help guys I really appriecate the time you put into this channel.... take care06:31
mefisto__Solifugus: in utilities menu (kjobviewer)06:31
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ksivajigenii are you there ?06:33
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geniiback06:34
BluesKajwell, going on errands ,BBL06:34
ksivajitell me what should i do06:35
ksivajiBluesKaj :P06:35
Solifugusmefisto__: thanks.. i looked in there but for some reason didn't see it.06:35
geniiksivaji: Let me go look at paste etc. Patience please :)06:35
ksivajiok06:35
mefisto__Solifugus: happens to me all the time06:35
geniiksivaji: Ah, no paste in scroll06:36
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ksivajihttp://pastebin.com/m44a818b406:36
geniiOK reading06:36
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geniiksivaji: So hdb2 is the old / then? Or maybe hdb506:38
geniihdb6 rather06:38
gabbyHow to I remove a package via the command line, so that not only is the package gone, but all the config files, every last trace? with apt?06:38
ksivajihdb is my current root partition06:38
ksivaji206:38
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geniiksivaji OK, so you are getting a grub prompt at all or no right now?06:39
genii(when trying to boot)06:39
poison--gabby, why dont u find the file in adept and try "purging"06:39
ksivajigetting grub prompt06:40
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ksivajibut grub says partition doesnt exist06:40
ksivajigenii:06:40
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poison--lol06:41
mefisto__ksivaji: did you try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows and it didn't work?06:41
geniiksivaji OK good. So now please paste the old files fstab and menu.lst from grub. eg: /root/tmp/etc/fstab   and /root/tmp/boot/grub/menu.lst06:41
ksivajimefisto_ this is differnt i am getting grub prompt06:42
geniiksivaji: It seems hard drives were physically rearranged possibly06:42
gabbypoison--: it's a server system06:42
mefisto__ksivaji: it seems grub is not finding where your linux / root is.06:42
ksivajiexactly06:43
gabbybut I can use purge with apt - so I'm saved!06:43
ksivajicat: /root/tmp/etc/fstab: No such file or directory06:43
ksivajiubuntu@ubuntu:~$06:43
geniiksivaji: sorry was temp not tmp  ...adjust accordingly06:44
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poison--ups, my bad gabby06:44
poison--did it work gabby06:44
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bomberhello folks06:45
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ksivajihttp://pastebin.com/m5f3e399f06:46
bomberthe border of different windows in edgy with kde used to be adjustable but the other day i installed a bunch of games from the repositories and then when i booted the next day now the borders are back to being large and i cant seem to be able to change it06:47
geniiksivaji: OK reading. Will tell you changes shortly06:47
trixonHi! Can someone here tell me where I change my computers 'identifier' for bluetooth?06:47
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ksivajitrixon kmenu->system setting ->network06:48
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bomberwhen i booted i got a window like when the initial setup took place06:48
gabbypoison--: yeah, I'm in the clear!06:48
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poison--sweet06:49
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trixonksivaji: no, not that, thats my computername, In ubuntu I was able to set a totally different name. Not in Kubuntu?06:49
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ksivajiyou have separate  channel called #ubuntu06:50
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trixonIm running kubuntu now...06:50
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geniiksivaji:First change: In the fstab. comment out line UUID=c41c400c-0723-4611-a36f-eac1a36e6028 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1    add under this a line: /dev/hdb2        / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 106:53
ksivajiok06:53
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combiniodoes anybody here know japanese language just a little ? ;P06:56
ksivajigenii done then06:56
geniiksivaji: In menu.lst change (hd0,2)  to (hd0,1)      and also change UUID=c41c400c-0723-4611-a36f-eac1a36e6028 to /dev/hdb206:56
ksivajiok06:56
geniiksivaji:WAIT06:57
geniiksivaji:(hd0,2) to (hd1,1)   rather06:57
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mefisto__ksivaji: don't forget line 97 (as shown in pastebin)06:58
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ubuntuHi all06:58
geniimefisto__: Thanks, i had forgotten about that one06:59
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neosixI need mp3 organizer. Does anybody know some?06:59
mefisto__grub actually does a pretty good job of doing all this for you06:59
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mefisto__neosix: amarok?07:00
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combiniono one knows japanese ? :/07:00
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geniiksivaji: If grub fails again next boot,go again to menu.lst and change where we put now (hd1,1) into (hd1,2)07:00
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geniiwork, back in a few minutes07:00
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neosixmefisto: does it work like "Where is it"?07:01
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mefisto__neosix: play around with amarok, you'll love it. it does plenty. you'll wonder how you lived without it07:02
fkmHi there. Could someone give me a hint, on how to find help concerning a scanner? I got a "Canon CanoScan LiDE 20" and can't find a tutorial, which tells me how to install it07:02
ksivajimefisto__ genii: i have only (hd0,2) no (hd1,1)07:02
devianceWhat photoshop replacements are avalibe for linux? I know of Gimp but thats about it07:02
hydrogenkrita07:02
neosixmefisto: Thanks man, I'll try...07:02
ksivajideviance gimp is best07:02
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hydrogenkrita is bester07:03
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hydrogentbh07:03
ksivaji hydrogen gimp :-*07:03
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mefisto__krita better than gimp?07:04
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geniiksivaji: Yes, change everywhere it says  (hd0,2) into (hd1,1)07:05
deviancehydrogen gimp?07:05
hydrogenhuh?07:05
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devianceOh sorry, Lol07:06
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devianceI though that was the name of a gimp version like gimpshop xD07:06
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fkmAny clues?07:07
fkmNobody?07:07
stoffer_i need some help installing nvidia-kernel-2.6.20-16-generic.07:07
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deviance!adeptlock07:07
UbotuSorry, I don't know anything about adeptlock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:07
stoffer_i try to get my nvidia card to work but that package is always giving complains and im not able to install it07:07
mefisto__fkm: have you tried checking to see if your scanner is supported?07:07
devianceHow do I unlock adept again, I keeeeps crashing :(07:07
deviance!unlockadept07:08
UbotuSorry, I don't know anything about unlockadept - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:08
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fkmYes, I found a whole page dedicated to the subject that it works and how fine. But I didn't see a link to a HOWTO there :( http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php/product/122807:08
deviance!adeptunlock07:08
UbotuSorry, I don't know anything about adeptunlock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:08
deviancepah07:08
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fkmmefisto__: And that's the abut it concerning my luck with Google :(07:09
genii!aptfix07:09
UbotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 07:09
devianceThats the one, thanks :P07:09
fkmmefisto__: I even find it in KInfoCenter and with USB Viewer07:10
geniideviance: np07:10
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fkmmefisto__: But that's my first device I had to install on my own in Linux. So I don't know, where to start07:10
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ksivajigenii:  i will reboot and come07:11
devianceHAH Gimp does actualy have a toilet paper option!07:12
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mefisto__fkm: I haven't ever installed a scanner in linux, so someone else might be a better source of info. have you looked in ubuntu forums about installing scanners?07:16
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fkmmefisto__  I found a page I'm looking through at the moment. And no, didn't check the forums directly. I'll do that afterwards. Thank you for your time! :)07:17
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poison--i had luck with a lexmark x1290 with a scanner07:19
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Luismihow i can see man pages with konkeror?07:22
maverick__weired problem, whenever i try to set my time to the new winter clock (EGYPT) it resets back to the summer daylight saving clock again as soon as i connect to the internet.....am using Kubuntu Feisty07:23
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Luismihow i can see man pages with konkeror?07:23
maverick__i disabled the "Set date and time automatically"07:23
JucatoLuismi: man:/whatever07:24
Jucatoand it's Konqueror :)07:24
poison--lol07:25
Luismithanks Jucato07:27
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Kr4t05What port does NFS typically use?07:29
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geniiI think 87107:29
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arash_ok guys, really embarassin story here...07:30
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arash_I dragged aroud the bottom bar with the windows and the 'K' on it to different sides, and when I dragged it to the right side, it just dissappeared :o, any ideas?07:31
geniimaybe 204907:32
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mefisto__arash_: right-click the panel (the bottom bar) and "Add Applet to Panel..." If Kmenu is there, add it07:34
Jucatoarash_: the whole panel (bar) disappeared?07:34
arash_mefisto__  the thing is that the bar disappeared07:34
arash_and I restarted X, but it seem to save the settings :p07:35
Jucatoarash_: Alt+F2, "kcontrol", go to Desktop -> Panels. and set the position of the panel. It should reappear07:35
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arash_Jucato, yay :)07:36
Jucato:P07:36
Mike3Someone please help, I just installed Kubuntu on my old laptop, by accident I did it in 1024x768 and my laptop only works on 800x600, I just set it to 640x480 in x.conf but it still loads at 1024x76807:37
Mike3How do I fix?07:37
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bucken?07:39
buckenanyone ?07:39
bucken;>07:39
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noobusHow do I mount a network drive in Linux?07:41
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noobusElloo?07:42
fkmNice :) Now the scanner seems loaded. I had to install sane and do a reboot (probably could have loaded the device manually, but that's over my head right now)07:43
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ubuntu__hola07:45
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ubuntu__hya alguien07:45
ubuntu__ahi07:45
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ubuntu__necesito ayuda07:46
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ayudaheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy07:46
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mefisto__well done fkm!07:46
fkmWell, didn't do much ;)07:47
ayudaesoty07:47
ayudanecerrqado07:47
ayudacon un secuestrador07:47
ayudael cual no se encuentra en este momento07:47
ayudanos edonde ni como07:47
ayudaayuda07:47
ayudapor favir07:47
ayudaque ya vuelv07:47
mefisto__fkm: it works, right?07:47
ayudaahi viene07:47
fkmmefisto__: And the scanner will not scan. But I haven't depleted my ressources for that problem yet :)07:47
ayudaayudemen07:47
pag!es | ayuda07:47
Ubotuayuda: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.07:47
dhqhow do i connect odbc and java in linux is there a manager or something07:47
ayudahelp me07:47
ayudaXevere07:48
Jucatoayuda: this is an English only channel07:48
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fkmmefisto__: Well no. The scanner will not move. But the applications (tried xsane and kooka) don't sem to realise07:48
ayudaok07:48
ayudaenglish07:48
ayudano spanish07:48
Jucato!es | ayuda07:48
Ubotuayuda: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.07:48
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ayudathank07:48
fkmmefisto__: They say they are scanning (with a status bar moving acros the screen) but the picture they get is blackness and the scanner doesn't move an inch...07:49
ayudausen UTUTO07:49
ayudais free07:49
ayudakubuntu has private sw07:49
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Jucatoayuda: if you need help, go to #kubuntu-es07:50
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mefisto__is ayuda spamming us?07:51
Jucatoone more and he's gone07:51
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ayudahey07:53
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hitmanWillywell, you warned him...07:53
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JucatoO.o07:54
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kaminix3When doing metaflac --set-tag=TAG="tag", does it matter how a capitalize TAG?07:59
fkmmefisto__: Ran into a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/8548807:59
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fkmmefisto__: Maybe I'll find a workaround :)08:00
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lnx_how i can make apps to start on startup ( like kopete , konversation . . . ) ?08:01
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Jucatolnx_: just leave them open when you logout. by default they will be started when you login08:02
Jucato(unless you changed the default behavior)08:02
Jucato!autostart08:02
UbotuTo make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.08:02
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lnx_Jucato , that it i have changed to start empty session . . .08:02
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ceg23349All these people, and no one ever speaks...08:05
lnx_Jucato , what is the command to run kcontrol-autostart ?08:05
ceg23349oh ><08:05
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lnx_ceg23349 , its good , isnt it ?08:05
ceg23349oh yeah.  392 people, and they all just idle...08:05
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lnx_ceg23349 , this si support channel , no talking = no problems08:06
ceg23349lnx_, I guess that's a good thing then... I suppose I should stop talking...08:06
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ceg23349Unless you can tell me how to mount a network drive...08:07
pekujaI'm having some trouble with Skype. My microphone doesn't seem to be working.08:07
lnx_ceg23349 , i dont know , but someone will08:07
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pekujaI have an Intel HDA sound card [integrated] 08:08
ceg23349sweet!  Anyone who does know how to mount such a drive; speak!08:08
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nadrosimahelow08:08
kaminix3pekuja: alsamixer, mix a little with the mic settings. Worked for me. :)08:08
pekujaheh, ok, I'll try if that helps :-)08:09
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nadrosimawhoo can test and chesk my linux cs server  ?08:09
lnx_i get this error when i try to install kcontrol-autostart : dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 13212 package `libgtksourceview1.0-0':08:09
pekujaI already tried with kmix and that didn't really help08:09
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pekujaby the way, what's a good audio recording/editing app for KDE?08:09
kaminix3How can I list all vorbis comments in a flac file? I'm trying to check with my other FLAC releases if I should add anything to one I'm tagging from scratch. :p08:09
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pekujakaminix3, what sound card do you have, by the way?08:10
kaminix3pekuja: No idea about the recording thing. And if "sudo alsamixer" in the console doesn't work I don't know what will.08:10
kaminix3pekuja: 2s and I'll check.08:10
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nadrosimaLinux 1.6 cs server need to check and test ip 85.107.90.30:27015 (samsun server)08:11
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ceg23349I know next to nothing about linux.  Knowing this can you tell me why my Amarok closes immediately upon opening, or should I look for something specialized to Amarok?08:11
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kaminix3pekuja: Hmm... can't find it in lshw. Some integrated Intel poo though. Laptop.08:12
SteffeNHello Everybody08:12
nadrosimaLinux 1.6 cs server need to check and test ip 85.107.90.30:27015 (samsun server)08:12
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nadrosimahelol SteffeN08:13
kaminix3ceg23349: What error do you get?08:13
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pekujakaminix3, anyways, thanks. I found the right setting to change in alsamixer08:13
pekujakaminix3, in retrospect, I should had known to try widdling with that, but it's always so easy to ask other people ;-)08:14
ceg23349kaminix3, I don't.  It just quits.08:14
kaminix3pekuja: Nice. Love when I find something I can actually solve <308:14
pekuja:-)08:14
pekujait was pretty weird actually08:14
kaminix3ceg23349: That's really really strange. Try starting it through console?08:14
pekujathere was an input source setting in the playback options...08:14
SteffeNI just checked my harddrive with badblocks: badblocks -s -v /dev/had08:14
SteffeNUnfortunately it fount about 30 defective blocks. What can I do to repair them or to mark them?08:14
kaminix3pekuja: Heh, yeah, that is strange. :p08:14
pekujaand there's basically three input sources that I can configure to be various actual ports O__o08:14
pekujalike Line In or Mic or CD08:15
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pekujaor Front Mic, which it was set to. I assume that means the Mic port on the front of my box08:15
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pekujakinda seems silly too that I think I could had solved this by connecting the mic to another port...08:15
nadrosimaSteffeN:  bad sector in ur sistem drive ?08:15
pekujabut then I wouldn't had known why it didn't work on the back08:16
kaminix3SteffeN: Okay, I can't say for sure. But I think badblocks are usually bad parts of the disk. Usually beyond repair. But as I said, I'm not sure.08:16
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ceg23349kaminix3, okay, trying now...08:16
SteffeNno,it's on a other machine (winXP). so it shoud be NTFS or FAT08:16
kaminix3pekuja: Work arounds are good, but solutions are better. :p08:16
pekujayep08:17
pekujaI hope the settings stay after I reboot or something. :-P08:17
ScorpKingis there a kopete 0.12.4 source package available? i only see 0.12.2 on http://kopete.kde.org/releases.php08:17
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pekujaalthough I guess I can configure alsamixer to load settings at bootup08:17
kaminix3Takes time. <308:17
pekujaso it's solvable anways08:17
kaminix3pekuja: It doesn't save settings on shut down? :p08:17
pekujakaminix3, I think it might... I dunno though.08:18
pekujaWill have to try it at some point.08:18
hitmanWillythere's a trick with alsamixer to save the settings, just can't remember it off the top of my head08:18
pekujaI think I still have one problem left with this new box... the PC speaker goes crazy during shutdown O__o08:18
kaminix3pekuja: I know I only had to set my alsamixer settings once.08:18
pekujaok, I guess it'll get saved automatically08:19
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pekuja"goes crazy" meaning it emits a loud long beep08:19
kaminix3Man, 488384000 is a lot of blocks... :p08:19
pekujamaybe several08:19
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hitmanWillypekuja, i think you can have alsamixer mute the speaker08:19
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ceg23349kaminix3, it still crashes; the window comes up, but the contents don't display.  Just what was behind it when it first opened...08:19
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pekujahitmanWilly, yeah, I know... but I have this feeling there's something actually wrong. muting the speaker is a good workaround though08:20
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hitmanWillypekuja, it's probably a misinterperted signal to the mobo, probably no big deal08:20
nadrosimaLinux 1.6 cs server need to check and test ip 85.107.90.30:27015 (samsun server)08:21
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pekujahitmanWilly, probably not, but it's still annoying08:21
hitmanWillypekuja, well, that's what the workaround is for :)08:22
ceg23349okay.... new question.  How do I add a network folder so I can look at it in Konqueror?08:22
pekujaI guess so08:22
kaminix3ceg23349: Do you get an error in the console?08:22
hitmanWillypekuja, or, you could figure out what the kernel module is for the speaker and unload that altogether08:22
nadrosimaget instal samba08:22
pekujawhat if I *want* to hear the PC speaker when I'm just regularly using the system? :-O08:22
pekujaI don't though. I mostly delete pcspkr.ko08:23
nadrosimamake a share folder08:23
pekujahitmanWilly, yeah I know what the module is08:23
pekujahitmanWilly, I usually delete it because I get annoyed08:23
kaminix3pekuja: Shut it off before shutting down the PC? ^_^08:23
hitmanWillypekuja, good, cuz i couldn't remember it :)08:23
ceg23349kaminix3, I just don't know how do do it...08:23
pekujakaminix3, but that would require actual work :-p08:23
hitmanWillypekuja, or just make a shutdown script that rmmod's it08:24
kaminix3ceg23349: Open the terminal, write "amarok" (without the "), hit enter. If it crash you usually get an error message in the console.08:24
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jessejazzaI installed kubuntu today but found that it would't set the language to UK-EN. I had the original installation as standard ubu and installed xfce and kubuntu to have a look. It would seem i've made a mistake somehow08:24
kaminix3terminal = konsole in KDE08:24
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pekujayeah, I'll probably just remove the module and see if that helps08:24
pekujaif it doesn't though...08:24
bigleonGood morning people today08:24
pekujathen it's not Linux trying to make the beep08:24
ceg23349kaminix3, ah08:25
pekujamaybe I could find some useful info in some logs or something08:25
hitmanWillypekuja, that's what bios settings are for :)08:25
pekujahah08:25
pekujaI guess08:25
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ScorpKingwelcome back bigleon. how does konversation behave today?08:25
pekujaanyways, something is wrong if it's making a loud beep like that08:25
kaminix3jessejazza: K menu -> System Settings -> Regional settings (I think it's called)08:25
pekujamaybe it's something really minor, but I just don't really know08:25
bigleonScorpKing it seems to be behaving but everytime i hit Y for my update it aborts -.-08:26
ceg23349kaminix3, Thought so.  And nope... no errors.  Is there some option that would make Konsole be less verbose, so it would just not be displaying any potential errors?08:26
hitmanWillypekuja, honestly, it's probably something with how the mobo handles the shutdown cmds08:26
coreymon77speaking about konversation08:26
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ScorpKingbigleon: it kicks me off every once in a while. what are you updating?08:27
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bigleoni'm trying to do my full update from 6.06 to 6.1008:27
ugaguys, anyone can tell about issues one might find when migrating from a 32 bit box to a 64 bit intel one? does (almost) everything work out of the box?08:27
ScorpKingagain?08:27
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ScorpKingbigleon: if it's working don't fix it. wait for your cd08:27
hitmanWillyuga, yes, but you'll have the usual 64 bit app compatibility issues08:28
kaminix3ceg23349: No. Konsole is just a console running programs. The errors are given from all the programs you run with it. You could add &> /dev/null on each line if you want to get rid of all errors though, I think. :p08:28
bigleonScorpKing i really don't want to wait a month08:28
bigleonand if it fails... i can just jump back to 6.06 XD that takes about 5 minutes to install08:28
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coreymon77when i open konversation, it autojoins the channels in my autojoin list so quickly that freenode doesnt have enough tine to cloak me before i join08:28
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coreymon77how can i fix that08:28
bigleonnice thing about sata hd and 2gb's of ram haha08:28
hitmanWillyuga, the intel 64 bit support has gotten better lately08:28
ceg23349kaminix3, I see... Well I was actually hoping to see more errors, but still, anything I can learn is nice ^^08:28
ScorpKingbigleon: so ud rather curse the thing for a month. lol.08:28
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poison--lol08:29
bigleonScorpKing: I am a very determined person, I really don't like to give up08:29
hitmanWillyuga, at least from what i've heard...amd man myself08:29
ugahitmanWilly: thanks. I need to replace the motherboard, and I wouldn't like to get locked into an older 32 bit cpu. So I'm planning to go for a quad core08:29
bigleon!verison08:29
felipe_hi ... can you help me ... mi desktop doesnt power off from the menu, just reboot08:29
UbotuSorry, I don't know anything about verison - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:29
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bigleonam i spelling it wrong XD08:29
ScorpKingbigleon: so am i. let me know if it's fixed. :D08:29
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felipe_i can power off from console08:29
kaminix3ceg23349: Had any other problems such as this with other programs?08:29
felipe_but a  iwant to fix that08:29
ugahitmanWilly: heh, I've looked at amd too, but I like intel chipset boards. They run so fine here in the past.08:29
bigleonScorpKing well now my laptop works and my desktop is messed up horribly08:30
ugaand then I hear amd is about to release a new slot08:30
hitmanWillyuga, well, if you run into issues, you can still run the 32 bit OS on that proc until the 64 bit one gets more stable08:30
bigleoni'm about reboot laptop and there is a good chance you won't hear from me for about 30 -60 minutes08:30
ugahitmanWilly: on the intel? or you mean on the amd. I thought only amd had that 32bit compat capability?08:30
bigleoni wanted to verify install is there any thing i can run from terminal b-4 i reboot?08:30
ceg23349kaminix3, nope, Amarok's the only one.  Think I should see what the Amarok people have to say08:30
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hitmanWillyuga, they both do IIRC08:30
ugaoh, I'll have to check that. Thanks08:31
hitmanWillyuga, otherwise windows wouldn't run on it either :)08:31
kaminix3ceg23349: Maybe. Have you got the latest updates? Tried re-installing amarok?08:31
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ScorpKingbigleon: i swapped my desktop for a laptop, a loss actually, but i'll have one again soon. my laptop is working great. 640MHz 320MB RAM. :D08:31
ugahitmanWilly: well, I believe there's a special 64bit version of vista08:31
ugaalthough some claimed they installed a 32 bit version, I think you're right08:31
hitmanWillyuga, there is, but its very unstable, even more so than vista08:31
ugalol, true08:32
ceg23349kaminix3, I think I will.  Not at the moment since this is a school box and my instructor is trying to get me to do something else, but soon :D08:32
bigleonScorpKing wish me luck, i'll hopefully be back08:32
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ScorpKinggood luck then.08:32
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hitmanWillyuga, which is why oem's still install 32 bit windows, even on 64 bit processors08:33
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kaminix3ceg23349: cool, laptop borrowed from school or actual school computers with Linux? and amarok? :o08:33
ugahitmanWilly: thanks for the info, now I feel safer with the upgrade, hehe08:33
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geniiMan the coffee's disappearing fast today08:33
genii:)08:33
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hitmanWillyuga, also something to keep in mind is that ubuntu 64 is a pain to run 32 bit apps on08:34
ceg23349kaminix3: Actual school computer with Linux.  They use them for this "Linux for idiots and CS majors" class and some higher internet security stuff08:34
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borislav123ima li hora ot Bulgaria Tuka ?08:34
hitmanWillyuga, any 32 bit emulation has to be set up by hand linking libraries in many cases08:34
ugahitmanWilly: uhm, in what sense? you mean proprietary binary-only apps?08:34
hitmanWillyuga, yes08:35
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ugaok, I run barely no proprietary apps except for bibble pro, myself08:35
kaminix3ceg23349: Cool. University I take it?08:35
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ugaso I guess I could do a few scripts for those if they are troublesome08:35
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hitmanWillyuga, ok, you should be alright then, I love my games, tho08:35
bigleonWell holy crap, it updated semiokay08:35
bigleonbut my adept manager is gone...08:35
hitmanWillyuga, which is why i run gentoo on the 64 box...lol08:36
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ceg23349kaminix3: Yeah.  Wright State to be specific.08:36
ScorpKingbigleon: does it say so at boot?08:36
bigleonwell it's just not there under kmanager08:36
ugahitmanWilly: oh my, don't make me go back to gentoo. I gave up due to so many conflicts when emerging packages08:36
poison--how do i had two keyboard layouts] 08:36
poison--this one dont let me use question mark08:36
poison--lmao08:37
hitmanWillyuga, yeah, if a gentoo box gets away from you, you can get screwed in a hurry08:37
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bigleonif i type sudo apt-get install firefox is that alright for kubuntu or should i take another approch?08:37
hitmanWillyuga, kde updates especially are a pain08:37
kaminix3ceg23349: I see... then it's not so uncommon. I'd love to see Linux on atleast one of our school computers in High School. <3 Thinking of putting live CDs in them when next Kubuntu is released though. Hopefully they won't notice when booting the next day. ^^08:37
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nosrednaekimyes!!! new ATI drivers!!08:38
nosrednaekimlol08:38
bjwebb_yay08:38
ScorpKingbigleon: cli command will work in ubuntu and kubuntu08:38
nosrednaekimawesome performance increase!08:38
hitmanWillynosrednaekim, we'll see...08:38
bigleonwell it says "firefox-gnome-support" i'm wondering if thats okay for my KDE enviroment08:38
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ScorpKingbigleon: add a 's' :)08:38
nosrednaekimtechincally only for the R600 cards... but guess what R482 me is doing...08:38
bigleonadd an s where?08:38
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ScorpKinglol08:39
ugahitmanWilly: I used to run both kde3 and 4 from svn, so that wasn't an issue. Then I got tired of maintaining both built by hand and I went for kde3 ebuilds08:39
trzcionekHi where can I off adept_notifier ?08:39
nosrednaekimhitmanWilly: 900 pages of docs if you don't like them... feel free08:39
ScorpKingbigleon: nvm. gnome apps will run in kde08:39
bigleonis there any other good web browsers for kde?08:39
bigleoncause i don't like Konqueror08:39
ScorpKingfirefox08:39
nosrednaekimfirfox08:39
coreymon77bigleon: firefox08:39
bigleonwell i'm getting firefox08:40
bigleon>.<08:40
hitmanWillynosrednaekim, heh, well, i have enough trouble with bash and python, so maybe later...lol08:40
nosrednaekimhaha08:40
bigleonhence "any other"08:40
ScorpKingopera :)08:40
coreymon77ew!08:40
ScorpKinglol08:40
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ScorpKinglmao08:40
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ceg23349kaminix3: rofl, that would be great.  I'd love to see the looks on the kids' faces.  Almost as priceless as the look on the faces of the techs :D08:41
poison--!keyboard08:41
UbotuTo find out how to switch your keyboard layout, See https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts08:41
bigleon*waves his hand in air* umm how you do the emote thinigy?08:41
keitoanyone know how to get my amarok playing mp3 again, it was working fine until today when an error popped up saying currently cannot play mp3 files08:41
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hitmanWillylike i've said many times before, i've yet to find a browser i really like, just a couple I don't actively hate08:41
mefisto__opera is not all bad08:41
nosrednaekimkeito: "sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs"08:41
bigleonThe big red O in opera scares me08:42
keitonosrednaekim: already installed?08:42
keitoshould i reinstall08:42
coreymon77bigleon: whats wrong with ff?08:42
nosrednaekimkeito: no... go into settings ->driver in amarok and make sure it is xine08:42
bigleonsometimes it goes screwy with me and stops loading websites08:42
poison--wtf.. the url took me to xubuntu help08:42
poison--lmao08:42
hitmanWillybigleon, its a representation of your rectum after using opera for any length of time...08:42
keitoyep it is08:42
bigleonHitmanWilly, and if you ever seen her show.08:42
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hitmanWillybigleon, yeah...08:43
bigleoni think i'd rather watch the view08:43
keitonosrednaekim: probelsm began after the update (backport)08:43
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keitofirstly amaraok crashes my window dec in compiz-fusion quite a bit starting from the brginning of this week08:43
hitmanWillyopera/oprah...hmmm, interesting conspiracy theory there...08:43
keitothen this happens08:43
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keitonote:   libxine-extracodecs is already the newest version.08:44
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nosrednaekimkeito: hmm08:44
ScorpKingi thought so! lol08:44
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bigleonThey are everywhere hitmanWilly, the goverment is using mind control on me, i must always wear my armadillo helmet... but at anyrate... :D wish me luck on my upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04 is there anyway i can set a recory point so if my 7.04 update fails i can roll back?08:44
ScorpKingoops!08:44
kaminix3ceg23349: Yeah. :D The trouble would be getting them in all PCs though, undetected. But just a few would do anyway. :p08:45
coreymon77bigleon: there shouldnt be any problems08:45
keitonosrednaekim: hmm indeed, I already been to #amarok and #ubuntu08:45
kaminix3ceg23349: Don't think our PC maintainer know you can use livecds even. :p08:45
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hitmanWillybigleon, backup the drive :P08:45
bigleonyou understand how bad my luck is08:45
keitono-one seems any the wiser08:45
coreymon77bigleon: 7.04 is actually way more stable then 6.1008:45
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bigleonheck when i rebooted it didn't the notice to update to 7.0408:45
hitmanWillybigleon, or a seperate /home08:45
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hitmanWillybigleon, and a clean install08:46
astangah. it's damn impossible to configure xorg with an external monitor on this laptop (fujitsu siemens amilo si1520, with intel graphics).. anyone know of a good graphical tool to set up xorg? i'm going insane.08:46
bigleonwell how do i update because adept left me :(08:46
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keitothis is an internet post related to my problem but it doesn't seem to apply to me or help me either ... http://mepislovers.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-4171.html08:46
ceg23349kaminix3: heh... Show them for picking the guy with the 1.2 GPA on his associates' degree...08:46
hitmanWillybigleon, adept isn't working?08:46
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bigleonthe gui interface is MIA08:47
bigleoni can't even find link under system08:47
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astanmy laptop screen is 1280x800 and my external monitor is 1280x1024.. shouldn't it "just work"?08:47
hitmanWillybigleon, well, there's one way, but i'm not sure if it's what you want to do...08:47
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keitonosrednaekim: any ideas?08:47
keitonosrednaekim : this is an internet post related to my problem but it doesn't seem to apply to me or help me either ... http://mepislovers.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-4171.html08:48
bigleoni'm trying apt-get install adept is that an okay idea?08:48
hitmanWillybigleon, it'll probably show that its already there08:48
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bigleonit's not08:48
bigleonThe following NEW packages will be installed:08:48
bigleon  adept adept-batch adept-common adept-installer adept-manager adept-notifier08:49
bigleon  adept-updater python-qt3 python-sip408:49
hitmanWillyhmmm...before you do that, try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade08:49
bigleoni alredy started it XD08:49
hitmanWillywell, do that after then08:50
ceg23349Interesting question: what's the command to show an environment variable?  Namely path, but whichever I can find would be nice08:50
bigleonwell could i run that in another terminal window?08:50
bigleonor would that be a bad idea08:50
hitmanWillythat'll make sure your 6.10 system is fully updated before you try a full upgrade08:50
hitmanWillybigleon, it won't let you08:50
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bigleonAlright08:50
hitmanWillybigleon, only one apt process at a time08:51
hitmanWillybigleon, that includes adept and synaptic as well08:51
bigleonand the once i finish up to 7.04 i gotta get my Toshiba Gigabeat to transfer my school work to my PC or i'm boned T_T08:51
hitmanWillybigleon, that's a laptop, right?08:52
bigleonyessiry08:52
hitmanWillybigleon, ok, just making sure :)08:52
bigleonInspiron E170508:52
bigleonWhich is a remake of some otherlaptop not sure which XD08:52
bigleonbut shes still nice08:52
hitmanWillywell, Dell has been getting better lately08:53
bigleonYeah noticibly08:53
bigleonTrust me you talk to me 4 years ago, and i'd say you'd be better off chopping your own ankle than to use a dell.08:53
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bigleonnow i recommend dell in most cases08:53
hitmanWillyat least they're not just a MS shill anymore08:53
hitmanWillytimes, they are a changin'...lol08:54
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coreymon77bigleon: i hope they are the ubuntu dells08:55
coreymon77bigleon: cause if they werent, id still have to kill you :P08:55
bigleonWell i didn't hit linux sence until 3 years back08:56
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bigleonbut i still used Xp for my video gaming08:56
hitmanWillyheh, this one is a hitmanWilly special...made by me for me08:56
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ubuntu_hi08:57
bigleonWell i customize each of laptops i never buy strait stock08:57
GIndoes Kopete support conversation logging?08:57
GInI can't find it any where08:57
hitmanWillyhowdy ubuntu_08:57
ceg23349ubuntu_ Think you can just come in here with your GNOME-ness...08:58
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h4xxorhi08:58
hitmanWillyceg23349, i think the kubu live cd uses that login as well, IIRC08:58
h4xxori am usin the live cd08:58
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hitmanWillyh4xxor, never would have guessed...lol08:59
ceg23349ubuntu_ oh... Well now I just feel dumb... Mostly due to my being dumb08:59
h4xxorlol08:59
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GIndoes Kopete support conversation logging?09:00
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hitmanWillyGIn, not sure...don't usually log IM's09:01
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hitmanWillyGIn, but probably, somewhere, guessing its just burried under some options menu09:01
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bigleonfirealarms went off in my college XD09:02
bigleonthey are so loud but i refuse to leave09:02
hitmanWillybigleon, heh, wait till they cut the power09:02
GInhitmanWilly, I can't find that optiona any where09:02
hitmanWillyGIn, ok, lemme look right quick09:02
h4xxorgin what is ur problem exactly09:03
mefisto__GIn: settings> configure plugins. it's the history plugin. turn it off, apply, then on again, apply09:03
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ville_Hey, tell how to get external harddisk available to my system ? What packages should I download ?09:03
ville_It is ntfs09:04
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poison--none09:04
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poison--unless u want the hdd to be loaded on boot, and in dat case u need diskmounter09:04
GInmefisto__, but where do I view the logs?09:04
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ville_Hmm, i can see it in system setting, but cannot find anyway to browse it.09:05
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hitmanWillyGIn, check in .kde/share09:05
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GInI thought there is a log viewer for kopete09:05
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genii!ntfs-3g | ville_09:05
Ubotuville_: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions09:05
hitmanWillyGIn, honestly, i use pidgin usually, so I'm not sure...09:06
ville_thx ill try that one09:06
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ville_I'll come back later if that help file doesn't help me ;) <- Im sooo newbie with this ;)09:07
astanhm hm. what's the dpkg (or apt-get?) command to re-configure an already installed package? i'd like to re-configure my xserver..09:07
mefisto__GIn: if you right-click a user in your list, it should have "history" there somewhere09:07
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mefisto__GIn: "view history"09:07
hitmanWillyastan, sudo dpkg-reconfigure09:07
GInmefisto__, thanks :-)09:08
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hitmanWillyastan, so in your case, the cmd would be sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:08
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astanhitmanWilly: ah. thanks.09:09
urilockzdoes stdin still hang out here?09:09
hitmanWillyurilockz, yeah, why?09:09
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urilockzoh cool, just wandering09:09
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urilockzhavent been here for a while09:09
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ulverhi to all09:10
hitmanWillyhowdy, ulver09:10
ulverhi there09:10
poison--anyone using linux mce?09:10
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ulverdoes anyone knows any program for live tv?i have tryied myth tv but it cannot see my tv card....09:11
bigleonAlright i'm back, they were testing students for response time... my room got F, 2 of the 3 guys in here didn't leave lmao09:11
bigleonwe would so burn in the fire09:12
poison--ulver? tvtime09:12
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ulvertvtime is a program?09:13
hitmanWillyulver, if myth doesn't see it, it's probably a config issue somewhere else09:13
bigleonI don't09:13
bigleonI might gget some PHL for my Desktop :D09:13
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hitmanWillyulver, yes, its an app09:13
poison--yes ulver09:13
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ulverthanx i will try it09:13
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bigleonWow my msn protocol is messing up on kopete09:16
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ville_ok I installed ntfs-config, still i cant see my drive anywhere. When I plugin my hardrive kde pop up note screen where u can choose open location, etc. What ever I press allways screen just disappears... any ideas ?09:16
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bigleonYour probbally dealing with a blip there ville09:17
hitmanWillyville_, ok, can you browse in konq to /media09:17
bigleoni'm not 100 pct sure how to deal in this situation, try a google search to see if others have had same problem, make sure to like include your driver09:17
hitmanWillyville_, see if it shows up there09:17
bigleoni thought he said it was already not popping up?09:18
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hitmanWillybigleon, the browse too isn't working, I just want to see if it's mounting at all09:18
bigleonHmm09:18
ville_Yes, and it is not mounted there09:18
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hitmanWillyville_, ok, open up a konsole09:18
bigleonwell it could come up with a pop to ask if you want to mount it eh?09:18
ville_Only cd -drive09:19
newsense07!smb09:19
Ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT09:19
jussi01anyone here use sopcast?09:19
hitmanWillybigleon, the pop up sounds like its coming up, just not doing anything09:19
jussi01anyone know how to add chnnels to the channel list?09:19
bigleonjussi01 just curious what is sopcast?09:19
newsense07!samba09:19
Ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT09:19
jussi01bigleon: its for watch p2p tv09:19
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jussi01!botabuse | newsense0709:20
Ubotunewsense07: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...09:20
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bigleonjussi01 intresting, no i don't use it.09:20
ville_Annoying... Thing is that it must besomething to do with NTFS bc sticks works normally09:20
hitmanWillyville_, what's the device for your ntfs drive09:20
newsense07jussi01: sorry thanks09:20
hitmanWillyville_, this is a flash drive?09:20
bigleonPfft i always get write errors with my Geeksticks09:20
jussi01:)09:20
ville_Normal buffalo USB-harddisk 80GB09:21
ville_Nope harddisk09:21
hitmanWillyville_, ok, do you know the device name for it?09:21
ville_Just a sec, i can find it from the logs, 1min09:21
hitmanWillyville_, or fdisk -l should list it09:22
ulveri download it...(sorry but i am new in this)how can i install it?09:22
ville_dev/sda109:22
bigleonanyone know any good online radio stations that will work on linux? Like my Yahoo Radio won't work cause i don't use IE 809:22
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ville_And I can see in dev folder aswell.09:23
mefisto__bigleon: there should be a bunch of them already set up in amarok09:23
hitmanWillyville_, ok, in konsole: sudo mkdir /media/sda1; sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/sda109:23
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bigleonmefisto__ thank you09:24
mefisto__bigleon: under radio streams09:24
hitmanWillyville_, pastebin the output of that, please09:24
hitmanWilly!paste | ville_09:24
Ubotuville_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)09:24
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ulverdoes anyone knows how i can install tv time?09:25
bigleontv time?09:25
hitmanWillyulver, sudo apt-get install tvtime09:25
jussi01!info tvtime09:25
ville_Cannot paste, bc im not registered09:25
boblenyJust a quick question, what happens if I install Kubuntu on a computer that only has 128MB of RAM?09:25
bigleonthen register vile09:25
Ubotutvtime: A high quality television application. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.2-0.2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 678 kB, installed size 1932 kB09:25
ville_:)09:26
hitmanWillyville_, ok, use pastebin.ca09:26
bigleonit won't work bobleny09:26
ulverthanx09:26
bigleonyou need minmal 386 i belive09:26
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bobleny256MB09:26
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hitmanWillyville_, they don't require registration IIRC09:26
astanhrmf anyone in here at all who has a laptop with intel graphics, and who can hook it up to an external monitor with a greater resolution than the built-in monitor?09:26
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ville_Failed to mount '09:27
bigleonastan it's typically other way around i get 1400x900 on my laptop and 1240X780 on my tv09:27
ville_dev/sda1 operation not supported09:27
hitmanWillyville_, wtf?09:27
mefisto__bobleny: lots of disk activity, everything will be very slow, but will work09:27
ville_NTFS LOG FILE is unclean09:27
ville_Thats the error msg09:27
hitmanWillyville_, that's strange...09:27
astanbigleon: okay, i have 1280x800 on my built-in, and trying to hook up a 1280x1024 external monitor.09:27
ville_Ye, mayby disk is just meshed up..09:28
ville_Hmm ill try another drive09:28
hitmanWillyville_, that could be it09:28
bigleonastan: well what you have to do is in your X-server configuration, but i'm not 100pct sure on all details.09:28
ville_i didnt think about that, bc it is working as it should in my win machine09:28
mefisto__ville_: seems you need to chkdsk the ntfs partition in windows09:28
boblenyWhat command do I use to see the RAM?09:28
astanbigleon: yea. hmf. i think i've tried everything.. very annyoing.09:28
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antluizhi09:29
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hitmanWillybobleny, i think lshw lists amt of ram09:29
antluizWhat should I do to connect the bittorrent?09:29
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bigleonastan I feel your pain man, Back at Votech we spent nearly a week rigging up 4 montiers to one desktop lmao.09:30
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hitmanWilly!bittorrent | antluiz09:30
UbotuSorry, I don't know anything about bittorrent - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:30
astani've tried both the xserver-xorg-video-intel and xserver-xorg-video-i810 driver, and i've tried Xorg -configure, and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg...09:30
hitmanWilly!torrent | antluiz09:30
Ubotuantluiz: Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt), rTorrent (C++) -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html09:30
astanbigleon: :/09:30
hitmanWillyastan, you may need to configure it for a second monitor09:30
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bigleonastan yea it can be a pain, but just read your guides, and eventually it start to work. but you should be able to use genearic mointer drivers09:31
astani thought xrandr or whatever it's called would make this eacy..09:31
astancan't find any guides, only ML posts about people with similar problems.09:31
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astan*easy.09:31
cbtis155hey alguien abla espaol09:31
hitmanWilly!dual head09:31
UbotuInformation about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama09:31
antluizeu falo portugues09:32
antluizyo able portugues09:32
antluizablo09:32
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bigleonisn't there a channel for Spanish speakers?09:32
antluizI am using Ktorrent09:32
hitmanWilly!es09:32
UbotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.09:32
astane.g. http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2006-November/019871.html09:32
antluizbut I am not able to connect, or find files09:33
hitmanWillyantluiz, do you have a firewall or router set up?09:33
poison--antluiz09:33
bigleonhitmanWilly, i was wanting to do some major cosmetic tweaks to my KDE envrioment, is there any good resources like "windowblinds" for winXP?09:33
poison--where r u from?09:33
droachanyword on bioshock being played in linux yet09:34
poison--eu falo portugues tb ?D09:34
hitmanWillybigleon, check out kde-look.org09:34
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bigleonthank you bunches willy :D09:34
hitmanWillybigleon, you don't need any seperate app for kde to do stuff like that09:34
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ulverhelp again guys!i gave the command sudo apt-get install tvtime and it started to run in the terminal...when it stopped,i wnt to the application and clicked at tvtime....it doesn't open09:35
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hitmanWillyulver, run tvtime in a konsole and see what errors it pops out09:35
silvio81Hi09:36
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lucky_lucashi, what is the name of the battery applet in kubuntu ?09:36
ville_I managed to mount other drive and it seems to work.09:36
ulverwhen you say at console you mean terminal?09:36
ville_What is the unmounting command09:36
hitmanWillyulver, yes09:36
poison--ulver, maybe ure missing some dependencies09:36
bigleonhitmanWilly does the stuff like auto install or do i gotta jump through a bunch of hoops to get different themes tow ork?09:36
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titaniohola09:36
mefisto__ville_: umount09:36
hitmanWillyville_, umount <mount/point>09:36
titanioville umount09:36
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hitmanWillybigleon, most of them install via kcontrol/system settings09:37
bigleonalright.09:37
ulverit doesn't show any errors,where i can found dependecies09:37
ulver?09:37
hitmanWillybigleon, but for some you do need to compile them09:37
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titanioalguien que hable espaol?09:38
hitmanWillybigleon, most of the more complicated ones come with pretty detailed instructions09:38
poison--!es09:38
UbotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.09:38
titaniogracias09:38
poison--:D09:38
titaniodomo arigato gosaimas09:38
poison--only portuguese here09:38
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poison--:D09:38
bigleonalright09:38
hitmanWillyulver, can you pastebin the output of that?09:38
hitmanWilly!paste | ulver09:39
Ubotuulver: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)09:39
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bigleonoh a tip for ya Hitmanwilly if you haven't used this already for firefox look into add block plus :D09:39
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hitmanWillybigleon, well aware of it :)09:39
bigleonit's a really awesome tool for ridding ur self from irritating ad's09:40
ulveri cannnot pastebin09:40
bigleon^_^ my friends love me for sharing it lmao09:40
mefisto__and there's adblock plus element hiding now too!09:40
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mefisto__adblock plus element hiding helper09:41
ville_I cannot understand this. Now I re-plugged other disk and now mounting command says cannot mount file exists...09:41
hitmanWillybigleon, what do you think are the first 2 things i install on my windows friends computers when they ask me to fix them ;)09:41
bigleonRofl09:41
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bigleonspeaking of which what is this element hider mefisto?09:41
ville_In teh media folder I can see now sda1, but it is empty09:41
bigleonthe fun mean thing with Adblock is to go on my friends computer and "Block" flash log in screens for their websites lmao :P09:41
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hitmanWillyville_, that's the mount point09:41
hitmanWillyville_, it'll be empty until you mount something there09:42
mefisto__bigleon: go to mozilla addons and find it. it's an adblock plus extra. I just discovered it myself09:42
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frankpreelx09:42
ville_ok now if i repeat that command u gave to mount drive, it says "file exist" cannot mount09:42
Greenerywhen i right clicking in Firefox and Konqueror, the response are slow. Any reason why?09:42
hitmanWillyville_, ? did you unmount the last drive you plugged in?09:43
bigleonno i mean what does it do mefisto?09:43
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ville_it is same #2 drive09:43
ville_It worked allready and i unplugged it09:43
hitmanWillyville_, you have to unmount before you unplug09:44
ville_Ok now i unmount09:44
hitmanWillyville_, its like safe remove09:44
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ville_i understand that09:44
ville_And try to do it ;)09:44
mefisto__bigleon: it lets you choose parts of a webpage to remove, unwanted text, for example09:44
hitmanWillyok09:44
bigleonoh like if you were senstive type you could remove curse words?09:44
ville_i used "sudo u"mount /dev/sda109:44
ville_i used "sudo "mount /dev/sda1"09:45
ville_i used "sudo "umount /dev/sda1"09:45
ville_dam;)09:45
bigleonsee thats uneseccary for me, typically i get irritated with censorship XD09:45
hitmanWillyville_, ok, that should work09:45
bigleonanyone ever use the program "poltergiest"?09:45
hitmanWillyheh, im waiting for a search/replace09:45
ville_ok now it says no media connected09:45
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dcorbin_workWhen I do "apt-get update" I get W: GPG error: http://www.debian-multimedia.org stable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B90709:46
dcorbin_workword: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems09:46
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ville_But /dev/sda1 still exists in the directory09:46
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bigleonwhats your problem then dcorbin_work?09:46
mefisto__bigleon: best to find it on mozilla addons than rely on my interpretation. better yet, install it and play around with it09:46
hitmanWillyville_, the dir will exist, linux needs a place to put mounted drives09:47
bigleonyup i'll be doing that after i finish with my themes09:47
ville_ok09:47
dcorbin_workbigleon: It suggest I do "apt-get update" to fix it, which is what I was doing in the first place.09:47
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terrestrehi all, in ubuntu, i can just type ssh://ip in nautilus to see a remote pc, i can do that in konqueror? cause i did and a konsole pop up09:47
dcorbin_workI don't know how to make the problem go away.09:47
ville_ok now i plug drive in09:47
hitmanWillyville_, this one kde should auto mount09:47
bigleondcorbin_work i was having a problem similar to yours, i rebooted and try the apt-get update and it fixxed the issue09:48
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dcorbin_workbiglean: reboot linux? Argh! :) OK.  I'll give it a try.09:48
hitmanWillyville_, assuming it's a working one09:48
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ville_yes it is ;)09:48
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ville_now it is plugged and running, but nothing09:49
hitmanWillyville_, kde can sometimes auto mount stuff, but its kind of iffy sometimes09:49
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gbwhello, how can i watch tv with kaffeine, 2 channels on one time?09:49
bigleondcorbin_work yeah09:49
ville_Ill try to mount it again with that command u gave me09:49
hitmanWillyville_, ok, open up a konsole09:50
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bigleonhitmanWilly, question how do i set up my theme again XD i forgot what you said ealier09:50
ville_Still it says "file exists"09:50
ville_cannot mount09:50
bigleonville_ if you don't got files on there, why don't use an xp computer and fdisk to raw format then bring to linux machien and let it format it..09:51
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hitmanWillybigleon, alt-f2, kcontrol, its under appearance IIRC09:51
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gbwor, maybe any other software i can use to watch 2 channels on same time?09:51
ville_I have files there and i saw those allready bf i unplugged ikt09:51
ville_*it09:51
hitmanWillyville_, ok, is the drive unplugged?09:51
mimohello09:51
ville_now, no09:51
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hitmanWillyville_, ok, unmount and unplug09:52
blender_gtohelp, I cant konect whit my yahoo account whit Kopete or Pidgin, helpme please09:52
ville_k09:52
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hitmanWillyville_, ok, in a konsole, sudo rm -rf /media/sda109:52
adachi! where can i set my monitor resolution?09:52
bigleonO_o well that err went umm09:53
bigleonbad09:53
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ville_And now its working again09:53
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hitmanWillyville_, ok, i know what the problem is09:53
ville_Do I have to do it everytime i plug/unplug it09:54
hitmanWillyville_, no, im going to help you set it up so you don't09:54
mimoadac: i guess in the kcontrolcenter09:54
ville_nice ;)09:54
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mimoif you are using kde :)09:54
hitmanWillyville_, ok, in a konsole sudo mkdir /media/usbdrive09:54
hitmanWillyville_, actually, try usbhd09:55
ville_ok, done09:55
hitmanWillyville_, usbdrive or usbhd?09:55
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ville_both, lets use hd09:56
MarcChow do I force-load a DVD that won't mount properly? I think I ejected the last one rather than "safely removing"09:56
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hitmanWillyville_, ok, sudo rm -rf /media/usbdrive09:56
yurimxpxmancould someone help me find a way to play (and/or record) this stream? mmsh://entercom.od.liquidcompass.cc/Entercom_OD//?MSWMExt=.asf09:56
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ville_k09:56
neosixhello everybody!!09:56
hitmanWillyville_, ok, sudo kate /etc/fstab09:57
ombra85hi neosix09:57
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hitmanWillyville_, sorry, kdesu kate09:57
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neosixhi09:57
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hitmanWillyville_, kdesu kate /etc/fstab09:57
adacmimo: I really can't find it there...Am I bind?09:57
ville_got fstab in kate open09:57
adac*blind09:57
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hitmanWillyok, add the following line to the bottom of that file:09:58
mimoadac: somewhere in the kmenu09:58
mefisto__adac: alt-f2, then type kcontrol09:58
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john_Linux fucking sucks.09:58
bigleonwow i killed linux lmao09:58
ombra85I use kubuntu gutsy and i have a problem: i hear no sound. My soundcard is Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)09:58
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hitmanWilly/dev/sda1 /media/usbhd ntfs-3g defaults,noauto 0 109:59
mefisto__or "System Settings" in the Kmenu (if you want to change screen resolution)09:59
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ville_ok09:59
hitmanWillyville_, ok, save and exit09:59
ville_k09:59
hitmanWillyville_, now, plug in the usb hd and see if it mounts10:00
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mrksbrdwhat is the command for editing your fstab using kate???10:01
ville_hehe, kde crashed ;)10:01
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hitmanWillyoh boy, ok...10:01
hitmanWillymrksbrd, kdesu kate /etc/fstab10:01
Dr_Willisbackup your existing fstab first. is a good idea.10:02
mrksbrdty...couldn't remember the fist part10:02
ville_I think ntfs-config was reason for the crash10:02
hitmanWillymrksbrd, kdesu for gui stuff, sudo for cmd line stuff10:02
ville_it loads much slower than earlier10:02
mefisto__sudoedit also works, as in sudoedit /somefile10:02
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ville_Both mount points are empty10:03
hitmanWillyville_, ok, try removing ntfs-config, i don't think you need it anyway, IIRC10:03
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ville_k10:03
greencookieHi fellas10:03
ville_is there ntfs support in feisty in-build+10:03
Dr_Willisntfs-comfig shouldent be affecting kde at all.10:03
hitmanWillyville_, read only10:03
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greencookieville_: I can access my xp partition if thats what you mean.10:04
hitmanWillyville_, but the ntfs-3g pkg puts the read/write driver in place10:04
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ville_k10:04
ville_ntfs-config is uninstalled now10:04
greencookieHey anyone know how I can check which driver I'm using for my wireless usb?10:04
hitmanWillyville_, ok, unplug and replug the usb drive10:05
jhutchinsgreencookie: sudo lsmod10:05
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Greenerymy ntfs HD keeps changing between sda5 and sdc5 everytime i reboot. How to make it stick to one?10:05
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ville_;)10:05
jhutchinsGreenery: Use uuid instead.10:05
greencookiejhutchins: k thanks.. also how do i open terminal? any shortcut keys?:D10:05
Greeneryhow do i do that?10:05
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jhutchinsgreencookie: I don't think there's a universal shortcut.10:06
hitmanWillyville_, ok, let me know if it crashes again10:06
jhutchins!uuid | Greenery10:06
ville_nope10:06
UbotuGreenery: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  sudo blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)10:06
hitmanWillyville_, ok, is it mounted?10:06
ville_But is empty again ;)10:06
poison--did some serious shit here... all my ntfs HDDS look empty for me10:06
poison--lmao10:06
greencookiejhutchins: ok. Found one tho. Ctrl+alt+f110:07
poison--but they arent, in windows i can see everitin in it10:07
greencookieand sudo lsmod didnt do anything for me.10:07
ville_I re-mounted and now its working10:07
hitmanWillyville_, ok, in a konsole, sudo mount /media/usbhd10:07
ville_Actually it is sda1 now ;)10:07
jhutchinsgreencookie: You have to log in on the tty consoles.10:08
hitmanWillyville_, ok, well then that works, make sure you can read and write to it10:08
ville_ill unmount and mount it to usbhd just a sec10:08
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greencookiejhutchins: k. btw can you tell me what tty stands for? just curious. noob here.10:08
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hitmanWillyville_, actually, i left something out of the fstab file so you can mount without sudo10:09
mefisto__hitmanWilly, ville_: take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/110210 and see the bottom of the page10:09
Dr_Willistty - old term for ascii terminals. :)10:09
ville_Ok immediatly when it is once mounted it starts to whine about that "file exist", cannot mount10:09
greencookieDr_Willis: Thanks:)10:09
hitmanWillymefisto__, i thought i smelled a hal bug...10:09
Dr_Willis look at /dev/tty## some time.10:09
jhutchinsgreencookie: TeleTYpe10:09
greencookieDr_Willis: thnx I will.10:09
ville_so if i remove entries from /media folder mounting is succesful10:10
greencookieok lsmod shows me a list of modules. Q: Are modules the drivers that my hardware is currently using?10:10
jhutchinsgreencookie: essentially.10:10
hitmanWillyville_, it has to do with kde's automounting program (hal)10:10
ville_jes10:10
greencookieHmm. Anyway to distinguish which module is used by my Netgear111 wireless usb adapter?10:11
hitmanWillyville_, ok, kdesu kate /etc/fstab10:11
ville_if i try to gui "safe to remove" button ill get:10:11
hitmanWillyville_, im just going to have you set back the defaults and it should work like it did before10:11
mrksbrdwho is the one trying to use a usb HDD?????????10:11
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ville_device to unmount is not in /media/.hal-mtab so it is not mounted by hal10:12
mefisto__mrksbrd: that would be ville_10:12
hitmanWillyville_, ok, is fstab open?10:12
mrksbrdwhat file system??10:12
mefisto__ntfs10:12
ville_open10:12
greencookieCan someone advise me about my network problem?10:12
ville_yes ntfs10:12
hitmanWillyville_, ok, put a # in front of the line i just had you add10:13
ville_so we ignore it10:13
hitmanWillyville_, yup10:13
hitmanWillyville_, wasn't sure if you knew about comments :)10:13
mrksbrdville, have u tried automatix, they have an option in there for fat32 & ntfs, it configures your fstab automatically......found this much easier than editing the fstab yourself10:13
jhutchins!automatix10:14
UbotuAutomatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)10:14
hitmanWillyautomatix bad!!!10:14
greencookieMy internet keeps freezing/locking up after around 5-15 minutes of connection. Could that be a problem with my wireless adapter driver?10:14
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ville_Is hal in here aswell hardware abstraction layer ?10:14
greencookie!ndiswrapper10:14
UbotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs10:14
mefisto__mrksbrd: just working around a bug, just about done10:14
hitmanWillyville_, no, not in that file10:14
mrksbrdhitman...not for this, believe me i was pulling my hair out(whats left) this fixed it right away.....just a suggestion!!!10:15
Dr_WillisQNX has announced that effective immediately, the company will open the source code to its QNX embedded, RTOS, microkernel operating system10:15
Dr_Willisthats nifty News.. Wonder what license they are using...10:15
ville_I ment is it rly kde who handles mounting?10:15
hitmanWillyville_, the drives were auto mounting before, correct?10:15
ville_Nope. only flash drives. got problems with ext. harddrives10:15
hitmanWillyville_, no, its hal that handles automounting of drives10:16
hitmanWillyville_, and fstab/mount that handles manual mounting10:16
ville_Yes, but i assume it must be in a kernel ?10:16
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ville_k10:16
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hitmanWillyville_, yes, but on a kubuntu system it comes by default10:16
ville_ok10:16
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ville_Thing is with a filesystems, bc fat drivers work nicely10:17
ville_*drives10:17
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hitmanWillyville_, that's because there's a more stable kernel driver already in place for them10:18
ville_ahh10:18
greencookie!lspci10:18
UbotuSorry, I don't know anything about lspci - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:18
hitmanWillyville_, there's a ntfs driver in the kernel as well, but its a read only10:18
hitmanWillyntfs-3g is the read write driver, but its been known to have some stability issues10:19
ville_yeah, thats what i have read10:19
greencookie!amarok10:19
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UbotuAmarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok10:19
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hitmanWillyville_, anyway, see if that works for you...with the working ntfs drive10:20
greencookie!fiesty10:20
UbotuKubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Kubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php10:20
ville_this drive works, but i have to remove all entries from media folder and mount it again everytime ;)10:21
ville_If there is any old entries left it wont mount correctly10:21
ville_Anyway thx for the help. Now i even now how to access it ;)10:22
hitmanWillyville_, well, at least there's that much :)10:22
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ville_yes, that was a big help. Ill get my data into this machine ;)10:22
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hitmanWillyville_, back up the ntfs drives and reformat them :P10:24
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bigleonhard drive finally working?10:24
ville_Hehe, that could be the easy way ;)10:24
ville_Nah10:24
bigleonawww poor you haha10:24
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bigleonwell off to do some theme searching :D10:24
ville_Some problems still, luckily I can access it now10:25
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bigleonanybody want to help me find a kde dark evil theme look?10:25
newsense07dark-plastik10:25
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terrestrea dark evil theme jaja nice10:26
terrestrei lake think in gray or something like that10:27
terrestrelike10:27
mefisto__hitmanWilly: did you try the uncheck "mount as user" workaround?10:27
bigleonHmmhhmm i guess i'm looking for a dark grim reaper10:28
bigleonlook10:28
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ardchoille!automatix10:28
UbotuAutomatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)10:28
hitmanWillymefisto__, nope, but then again my experience with ntfs is severely limited10:28
newsense07bigleon:check out the link i sent ya, pretty nice dark theme, im using it10:28
bigleonLmao i just grabbed that on website10:29
bigleonlike 10 minutes before you linked me10:29
bigleoni might have to find some stuff to alternate it. a bit.10:29
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bigleonI love setting something to defualt as the screen like "morphs"10:30
mefisto__hitmanWilly: basically, the trick was to mount with ntfs-3g, then right-click, properties, and uncheck "mount as user". ville_, you might want to try that10:30
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ville_ok ill try that one10:31
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flakewhat's a good server monitoring gui for apache10:32
flaketo see like so many unique visitors, hits, performance, etc10:32
ville_Funny thing is that i removed all entries from media folder and stil system setting->advanced->disk and etc, shows that the drive is still connected10:32
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flakeville_  sounds like you are trying to remove it - have you tried unmounting10:33
terrestrehi all, in ubuntu, i can just type ssh://ip in nautilus to see a remote pc, i can do that in konqueror? cause i did and a konsole pop up10:33
ville_yes no any sda left10:33
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astananyone know what the difference between xserver-xorg-video-intel and xserver-xorg-video-i810 is?10:34
ville_hmm, mayby it get that data from fstabs even it is comment marked10:34
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mefisto__terrestre: I think in konqueror you can type remote:/10:35
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ville_Hmm, mayby problem is somewhere else. Where heck that program discover, that sda1 is still valid10:35
lnx_what is the command to run "kcontrol-autostart"10:36
bigleonThey are different drivers astan10:36
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mefisto__ville_: I would avoid using the gui for disks. It always screws things up for me. Better to view/edit fstab directly10:40
Dr_WillisYep. learning how/what/where to edit the fstab manually is a Good skill to gain.10:41
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hitmanWillybigleon, ok, just to show you how my system is set up...http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=6617610:42
hitmanWillybigleon, this is my gentoo box but it should be doable under any kde10:42
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vltHello. Does anyone know a "replace in multiple files" tool that asks me for each substitution? (sed and kate seem to lack such function)10:43
ville_yes so it seems t odo ;)10:43
kaminix|benkyouIs there anything saying I should not go with ext3 on my new 500GB external?10:43
terrestremefisto__: no, it doesnt work, but thanks10:43
terrestredrif: hi10:43
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bigleonpretty10:44
hitmanWillykaminix|benkyou, ext3 is probably the most supported filesystem on nix, but you can set it up for whatever you want10:44
bigleoni like that, think you can help me set that up on kubuntu?10:44
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kaminix|benkyouI know. But I just did fsck and noticed "wow, no non-contagious poo. Wonder if it'll stay that way with some other FS"10:45
mefisto__terrestre: if it's samba, type smb:/ in konqueror10:45
hitmanWillybigleon, yeah, probably :) the best way is to play around with it until you find a setup you like10:45
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ThePianoGuyhi guys10:46
bigleonsoto get like special buttons and stuff do i need widgets10:46
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terrestremefisto__: yeah i know samba, but it's ssh10:46
ThePianoGuyanyone succeeded in running macosx under ubuntu using vmware, qemu, virtualbox, bochs or any other emulators?10:46
bigleonsorry i know my Win XP, but when it comes to theming linux i'm a little loss10:46
terrestrenice theme10:47
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hitmanWillybigleon, the buttons are just regular icons, my taskbar is fully transparent, and the big gentoo button is done through kbfx10:47
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hitmanWillybigleon, the window stuff is just done through themeing10:48
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bigleonalright, well i guess i'll go play with it and hope to dear god i don't crash it10:48
hitmanWillylol10:48
mefisto__terrestre: try sftp://user@host10:48
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bigleonhey hitman you got an msn or yim or aim10:48
bigleoni'd like to add ya10:49
lnx_someone if i can set kaffeine plugin for firefox to play the video embedded and not external ?10:49
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hitmanWillybigleon, yeah, hitmanWilly on yahoo10:49
hitmanWillybigleon, i may be switching to google here soon, tho...10:50
terrestrehey mefisto__ thanks, that work but, that is sftp, not ssh, nautilus support ssh, but that work too, thanks10:50
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bigleonyeah i got google :D10:50
bigleoni need to add  a gtalk to my kopete but i'll do that after i finish themeing10:50
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hitmanWillyok :), actually, i needed to do that anyway...10:50
mefisto__lnx_: there's an mplayer plugin for firefox that embeds video10:51
bigleonhey quick question hitman, is ther a quick way to set my comp up to a 1400X900 res10:52
lnx_mefisto__ , i know , its doesnt work well for me , not mplayer and not the plugin10:52
hitmanWillybigleon, not quick, but possible10:53
bigleonmind walking me through it?10:53
kkathmangreetings :)10:53
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bigleoni belive it has to do with the Xserver config10:53
hitmanWillybigleon, ok, can you pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:53
bigleoni need pastebin link, i'll go open the file10:54
kaminix|benkyouOkay, does the capitalization matter for vorbis comments or not? Some seem to write ARTIST, some artist and some Artist10:54
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hitmanWillybigleon, pastebin.ca10:55
terrestreits very easy editint xorg.conf :)10:55
hitmanWillyterrestre, not for XP folks :P10:55
hitmanWillyterrestre, but for those of us who grew up on slackware, yes...10:55
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terrestreuntil the last year i was a XP folks ;)10:56
hitmanWillyterrestre, heh, lol10:56
bigleonhttp://pastebin.ca/69453710:56
kaminix|benkyouHow can I add a lable to an USB drive so that it will always be mounted with the same folder/name?10:56
mefisto__lnx_: have you tried the vlc plugin? It doesn't work for me, but it might be worth trying10:57
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hitmanWillybigleon, ok, you see down around line 139...the res's that are listed...10:58
terrestrethis laptop connect to internet throw a pc, the pc is my gateway. but my ip is the same like the pc, i just cant get in the laptop throw ssh because my ip is the pc ip. and idea?10:58
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bigleonyup10:58
hitmanWillybigleon, add in the res in the exact same format you see listed there, for all the color depths you want it at10:59
bigleondepth 32 and add "1400X900"10:59
hitmanWillybigleon, i'd suggest sticking with 2410:59
bigleonor should i stay with 2410:59
bigleonOkayy10:59
bigleonlol10:59
lnx_mefisto__ , what is the package name ?10:59
ubuntutest10:59
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dangaiohello. I want to customize my kubuntu laptop. Is there any "howtos" to create your own personal splash screen like the kubuntu one?10:59
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ryon420ok11:00
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hitmanWillybigleon, 32 bit color really doesn't look any different and it can cause problems with compositing11:00
bigleonalright11:00
ryon420whats up everyone?11:00
mefisto__lnx_: mozilla-plugin-vlc11:01
ryon420i saw that movie; it wasnt bad11:01
hitmanWillybigleon, save and exit, then restart X11:01
mefisto__lnx_: there's also totem-mozilla, if the vlc one doesn't work out for you11:02
hitmanWillybigleon, you need to use sudo or kdesu to edit that file11:02
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lnx_mefisto__ , but kaffeine cant be embeded somehow ?11:03
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mefisto__lnx_: not as far as I know. If I knew how I would be using it too :)11:04
hitmanWillylnx_, not that i know of...i've had the best luck with the mplayer plugin11:04
bigleongotta remeber where i change the res at now lol11:04
hitmanWillybigleon, line 139 or so11:04
bigleoni changed it i ment actually change it lol11:05
bigleonlike to use that setting11:05
hitmanWillybigleon, its down near the end of the file, you'll recoignize it when you see it11:05
bigleonalright11:05
hitmanWilly1680x1050 here11:05
bigleonmeh on xp my laptop only supported 1400X900 so i'll stick with that11:06
hitmanWillybigleon, ok, btw do you have the binary drivers installed?11:06
hitmanWillybigleon, i mean for your vid card?11:06
bigleonIf it didn't come with my update then no11:06
hitmanWillybigleon, ok, im not sure if the open ati drivers will support that res...11:07
bigleonhmm11:07
hitmanWillybigleon, but worst case it just dumps you back into 1024x76811:07
bigleonwhat button do i hit to change res? after editing file11:08
hitmanWillybigleon, i use nvidia here, so im not sure about ati's various quirks11:08
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hitmanWillybigleon, it should jump to the first one in the list11:08
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bigleonit didn't do anything after saving the file11:08
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urilockzam I able to put KDE 4 beta onto my system?11:08
hitmanWillybigleon, you have to restart X for the changes to take effect, ie log out and back in11:08
lnx_Totem is perfect !11:08
vgequick unix question, how i list users that belong to sertain group?11:09
bigleonOh i'm dling at the moment so i'll have to wait11:09
urilockzi dont want to try and break my system11:09
hitmanWillybigleon, ok11:09
hitmanWillyurilockz, you can install it side by side with your current kde11:09
urilockzsweet11:09
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urilockzis it only for gutsy?11:10
hitmanWillyurilockz, i think there's a backport11:10
hitmanWillyurilockz, but its still very beta, so be warned11:10
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urilockzis there a way to get tribe 5 without the cd, fro mmy terminal or something?11:11
hitmanWillyurilockz, that i don't know...11:11
urilockzok il try googling i guess11:11
hitmanWillyurilockz, it may be that it comes automatically when you update a gutsy install11:12
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hitmanWillyurilockz, not sure how buntu runs betas11:12
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bigleongot google talk to work i think lmao11:12
urilockzmy cd drive is broken, so i cant get the cd and get gutsy. f11:12
claydohurilockz: and hitmanWilly yes, running updates in gutsy will get you the latest, even newer than the last tribe release11:13
mneptokurilockz: you can dist-upgrade11:13
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hitmanWillybigleon, heh, mines up, try hitmanWilly3835111:13
bigleonhmm getting  a werid error11:14
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hitmanWilly?11:14
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urilockzoh?11:14
bigleonhow did you set up gmail, i read a thing said to do it over Jabber11:14
bigleoni don't think i did it right11:14
hitmanWillybigleon, i just hit the little create account button on the googletalk website11:15
manchickenDoes compiz and/or beryl require xgl versus X?11:15
bigleoni got a account already on google11:15
hitmanWillybigleon, ah, k11:15
bigleoni'm talking about setting it up kopete11:15
hitmanWillybigleon, pidgin here :)11:15
bigleonI miss my pidgin11:15
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bigleoni should go get it again11:15
hitmanWillybigleon, so reinstall it11:15
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hitmanWillybigleon, i think it's still gaim in the repos, tho11:16
bigleonit is gaim11:16
hitmanWillyi think the pidgin website has a deb for it11:16
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claydohurilockz: you can also upgrade from past versions (feisty, etc) from a gui: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/GutsyGibbon/Tribe4/Kubuntu#head-cfa1001afadc3https://wiki.kubuntu.org/GutsyGibbon/Tribe4/Kubuntu#head-cfa1001afadc3e0b752edf84051ef6a84da864a4e0b752edf84051ef6a84da864a411:16
bigleonpidgin was orginally gaim,11:17
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claydohwoah long url11:17
RCan anyone tell how to change my resolution? I have a 22 inch wide LCD and I need to set it at 1680x1050 resolution and 60Hz refresh rate. I edited the xorg.conf file and restarted the computer but still the resolution hasn't changed from 1024x768. Pls help !!!11:17
hitmanWillybigleon, yes, but if you want the actual pidgin versions, you still have to download from the site IIRC11:17
urilockznevermind, i have found these backports11:17
bigleonR your card does support new res11:17
Ryes11:17
Rit's a GeForce 7600GS11:18
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hitmanWillyR, are you using the proprietary drivers?11:18
bigleonI mean your drivers XD11:18
Ri don't think i've installed them11:18
vge!pastebin11:18
Ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)11:18
Ri've just installed Kubuntu a half hour ago11:18
hitmanWilly!nvidia | R11:18
UbotuR: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:18
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hitmanWillyR i don't think that the open source one goes that high11:19
elite101hey!!11:19
elite101im back after my vacation @ school :P11:19
hitmanWillyhowdy elite10111:19
elite101lol hey11:20
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manchicken!effects11:20
UbotuFor help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects11:20
elite101mhm im getting a new pc rite now my computer fell and the circuir board (MOBO) go wrecked so im at the library11:20
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elite101it was only a p3 anyways but now i have no computer rite now11:21
vgehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37265/ <-- someone can help me with simplest of htaccess, it just dont seem to work :/11:21
hitmanWillyelite101, they have irc at your library? nice...11:21
RI also tried Ubuntu last week and the NVidia drivers installed as part of the update and after editing xorg.conf, i had the right resolution but a slightly lower refresh rate11:21
hitmanWillyR, yeah, that's fixable, but its a pain11:22
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elite101no11:22
elite101its online IRC11:22
bigleonyou will between 20 and 60 hehe11:22
Rbrb, gotta restart, finished installing Kubuntu updates, all 115 of them :)11:22
elite101they have Doucore dells optiplexs here :D11:23
hitmanWillybigleon, well, duh...lol11:23
elite101but i have on question thou11:23
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bigleoni wanted to give my 2 cents11:23
elite101i check on the computers ram it says: 0.99gb what does that mean?11:23
hitmanWillyelite101, 1 gb of ram11:23
elite101why does it says 0.99gb of ram (its running windows pro)11:23
elite101ah ic11:23
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elite101thought so but i dont see why they couldnt have it as 1Gb of ram?11:24
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hitmanWillyelite101, 1 byte = 1024 bits, extrapolate from there11:24
elite101ahh i know but they round it out11:24
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elite1011024x100,000,00011:25
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elite101i think*11:25
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hitmanWillyyes, but to a hw manufacturer, 1kb=1000b, not 102411:25
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hitmanWillyso the package will say 1gb of ram, but in reality, the machine reports it as less than that11:26
elite101mhm i emailed the school board asking: i came across eastdale secondary school and couldnt help to see there was no opensource software or distro's installed on the computers? i wonder to my self why? is it because we live in a M$ world? i asked the school board to see if they could install it i mean it is "cheaper/virus free/good programs"11:27
BluesKajyup. free -m shows 946mb total11:27
elite101i said something like that yesterday i didnt get a reply yet11:27
ugahitmanWilly: remember... now, given iso ... 1kB=1000B, 1kiB=1024B11:27
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hitmanWillyuga, well, yeah...show off :P11:28
hitmanWillyelite101, ok, the reply will be...huh?11:28
ugahitmanWilly: I only meant they are in their own right to do that now ;)11:28
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elite101lol11:28
elite101i didnt get one yet11:28
BluesKajlinux ..what is that ..a computer program ?11:29
elite101hopefully he consider's it i have 2 Kubuntu livecd's in my binder @ school :P11:29
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ScorpKingelite101: some of the schools i talked to made it clear that they need MS Word and OpenOffice is not a good enough replacement. i think they should just read the manuals.11:29
elite101mhm i asked them i mean they do have office programs/pdf viewers in Kubuntu? mhm it would be cheaper11:30
hitmanWillywell, ms word costs more, so it must be better XD11:30
elite101well not cheaper *no cost*11:30
ScorpKingthere is one school with about 20 computers that only use linux. :D11:30
hitmanWilly$200 > $0, therefore, costs more...lol11:30
ScorpKinglol11:31
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elite101lol11:31
BluesKajelite101, the edus=cators don't care about taxpayer's money, they're constantly try ing to figure out how to overspend their budget so  it will be increasd the next fiscal year.11:31
elite101yeah probably11:31
hitmanWillyms software is a good way to do that11:31
hitmanWillyoverspend, anyway11:32
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elite101well i mean they have some p3's in the school old white optiplex's they run about 333mhz-1Ghz i could run it on them since they use a windows server with the HDD's for each student11:32
BluesKajthey're on the BS bandwagon more than most bureacracies11:32
elite101on the newer pc's they use the server thing11:32
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hitmanWillyelite101, pop one of those live-cd's into the library comp, see what happens...lol11:33
rustalotmy sound isn't working11:33
elite101but the whole school is networked with windows so that when you sign in as a Student ex. JhonD and then for password Jhond you sign in on your personal HDD on a server11:33
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elite101can kubuntu work like that?11:33
ScorpKingsure. edubuntu11:34
hitmanWillyelite101, with samba, maybe11:34
elite101i wonder but the Server HDD's are networked and there prob .NTFS so that shouldnt be a prob11:34
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lnx_ someone know how to get mozilla-totem to be full screen ?11:34
hitmanWillyelite101, or if the whole system is set up with nix, it'd be even easier, mount everything with nfs11:34
ugaelite101: we had that on sun solaris, through ntfs11:34
ScorpKingnfsmount all home directories over the network.11:34
elite101but just the signing in like you sign in befor you go into windows11:34
kioskmy apt-get is broke :)11:34
ugaelite101: sorry, not ntfs, NFS, obviously =) you should be able to set up every /home drive as an nfs one?11:35
ugaas simple as that11:35
astanbleh. now i got Xorg to crash trying to configure xinerama.. hmf.-11:35
elite101when you sign into the network you sign in @ a log-on screen on windows befor you even load windows* the windwos is installed on the HDD but you cant do anything to that drive once you restart all changes will be back to normal same at the library11:35
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urilockzJesus, KDE is big!11:36
elite101:D11:36
ScorpKingelite101: ltsp thinclients is an example of mutliple computers using one storage device.11:36
elite101yeah like that but there is 2drives (One network on internal) windows is on that drive thats inside the computer the *docuements/word/office* that stuff you type gets saved in the Server wich runs all over the school as long as u have a SChool pc hooked up you can access the server anywhere around the school11:37
ugaelite101: if you read "start windows" similar to "start kde", should be same thing11:37
elite101hm but when you sign in i dont sign into the windows drive thats on the computer but i load up my personal drive thats in the server11:38
urilockzwoah 657mb11:38
ugaelite101: uh? you mean authentication is per-machine? not centralised?11:38
elite101like when someone use;s that computer it will be the same but it wont have my stuff on it anymore it will be what they did11:38
ScorpKinglol. that should not be to much trouble with a few scripts.11:38
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elite101you see they dont expect "us" students to do anything but if i know how to screw things up i could ruin there whole system but i wouldnt thou just saying*11:39
ScorpKing:)11:39
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elite101they think where "dumb" idont know i dont think they know what "linux" is :D11:39
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ScorpKinghaha11:40
elite101i just wanna know if i can install Kubuntu and then i could go into my server but i think the server HDD's are NTFS so it would be a task because i can go into kubuntu Mount the NTFS drive(s) in the server restart and then log-in as My user/pass?11:41
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urilockzi remember in primary school when me and my friend were set at the projector computer, we were on a malicious website of dead people and ew, then the teacher unknowingly put the projector on :D11:41
elite101but i dont think i can do that since its with MS and all i would need more info on how its setup11:41
elite101LOL11:41
elite101:P11:41
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elite101well the library is gay*/Dumb*/stupid* i have a 60min timer im @ 19mins :(11:42
elite101your only aloud 60mins a day*11:42
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urilockzare you banned from anything and everything?11:42
elite101no11:42
urilockzas in from the internet11:43
elite101i dont have my computer*11:43
elite101its broken11:43
urilockzi mean in the library or wherever you are at11:43
elite101no its only @ 60mins aday for everyone11:43
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hitmanWillyelite101, set the clock back...heh11:43
elite101its a sing in screen you sign in your Lib card and a Pin#11:43
elite101lol u cant11:43
elite101its with PC reservation is the program11:44
urilockzat my school im allowed whenever but teachers etc look at my screen through their admin pc :/11:44
hitmanWillyelite101, wanna bet :P11:44
rixxonHow can I remove everything that got installed by ubuntu-desktop?11:44
kiosk\leave11:44
elite101i use to run keylogger and get peoples Libcard/MSN/Myspace pass but thats frowned apon*11:44
urilockzhhaahah11:44
hitmanWillystrange about that11:44
kioskcan never remember which slash it is LOL11:44
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hitmanWillyelite101, do they have cd drives?11:45
ugarixxon: sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/hda11:45
elite101urilock, download firefox the program they use is Netsupport school pro i can use firefox the program only monitors IE lol me and my friends do it all the time11:45
elite101yeah11:45
elite101they do11:45
elite101bios=pass11:45
elite101they would no11:45
rixxonuga: i don't think so11:45
urilockzi cannot download .exe files11:45
urilockzand they will watch me11:45
elite101ahh11:45
urilockzyeah11:45
elite101:(11:45
elite101lol11:45
elite101i have it preinstalled on my Server drive same with Halo1demo :D11:46
urilockzi got permanently banned for printing in colour a dogs face on a mans body11:46
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hitmanWillyremember in 1984 how they would watch people through their tv sets?11:46
elite101it would be cool to install kubuntu to a server drive then sign in as windows pc and it runs kubuntu on the drive11:46
hitmanWillythe book11:46
elite101TV?11:46
ugaelite101: well, it's a way to wipe out everything. I thought that's what you wanted? =)11:46
elite101lol11:46
ugarixxon: well, it's a way to wipe out everything. I thought that's what you wanted? =)11:46
ugasorry, wrong link11:46
rixxonuga: nope11:47
ugaor nick11:47
hitmanWillywell, computer monitors hadn't been invented yet11:47
elite101:D i could ruin the whole system @ school/welland lib11:47
elite101lol11:47
elite101TV :P11:47
terrestrethis laptop connect to internet throw a pc, the pc is my gateway. but my ip is the same like the pc, i just cant get in the laptop throw ssh because my ip is the pc ip. and idea?11:47
rixxonuga: i have kubuntu, installed ubuntu-desktop, now I don't want it.11:47
rixxoni want clean kubuntu.11:47
ugaoh hum...11:47
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urilockzremove kubuntu-desktop?11:47
elite101sudo apt-get KDE11:47
elite101lol11:47
rixxonurilockz: other way around, you must mean11:47
urilockzubuntu*11:47
urilockzxD11:47
ZekeIs there anyone here that can give me a hand with a wireless card11:47
rixxonyea, tried that. removes like 20 kb. tried apt-get autoremove after that, removes nothing.11:48
hitmanWillyrixxon, sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get autoremove11:48
urilockzi use all *buntu's (except edu)11:48
rixxonhitmanWilly: well, tried that.11:48
hitmanWillyoh, nm :)11:48
rixxon:(11:48
elite101edu sucks* :D11:48
terrestreif you install ubuntu-desktop with aptitude you can easy remove with aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop if not, search in google a long list of packages to remove ubuntu desktop11:48
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elite101well i gotta go guys i have to go now lol only like 10mins left on my time :P11:48
elite101bye11:48
ScorpKing!wireless | Zeke11:48
UbotuZeke: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs11:48
drewmisterwhat editor u guys like on kubuntu?11:48
drewmisterxemacs?11:49
ScorpKingkate11:49
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terrestre!ubuntu-desktop11:49
Ubotuk/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.11:49
hitmanWillydrewmister, vim11:49
elite101*im getting my p4-900Mhz sony duron CPU/Vaio PC later on like next week i can finally use my own computer*11:49
elite101its for free so hey*^11:49
ScorpKingvi rules :)11:49
elite101lol better than AMD k6 asus i was using11:49
ZekeI've gone through that install document there I don't know how many times today. Until a few moments ago it didn't tell me that I had an invalid driver, it does now. So I have messed something up11:50
elite101my uncle is getting it for me since i installed his radio/cdplayer in his car :P11:50
drewmisterman vi is hard... i been using that for configs and let me tell you productivity cut in half since my gentoo emacs11:50
elite101bye11:50
ScorpKingZeke: what is the error?11:50
ScorpKingbey11:50
hitmanWillydrewmister, you use emacs and think vim is hard? wow...11:50
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drewmisteri had to see what the crave was about this ubuntu, i have been a gentoo self configured compiler for a while11:51
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ZekeScorpKing: after running ndiswrapper -l it tells me inffile : invalid driver!11:51
ScorpKingdrewmister: http://www.washington.edu/computing/unix/vi.html and http://www.lagmonster.org/docs/vi.html11:51
hitmanWillydrewmister, i still am :)11:51
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drewmisterthe gui installation went soo smothe, i can at least see this being an option for many of my friends11:52
ZekeThe odd part about that is, it didn't say that untill recently. I'm not sure what I changed11:52
ScorpKingZeke: what card is that?11:52
rixxonterrestre: does adept support anything like that?11:52
Zekenetgear 311 v311:52
moofoohi, is there a way to browse the podcast in the itunes store with linux?11:53
terrestrerixxon: i dont think so11:53
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hitmanWillymoofoo, nope11:53
rixxon:(11:53
terrestre!aptitude11:53
Ubotuaptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide11:53
hitmanWillymoofoo, the itunes drm is incompatible with linux11:54
terrestrei tried to remove ubuntu-desktop too, su i have to googling to find a command with all the packages, theres a lot, i mean a lot to clean your kubuntu-desktop11:54
moofoohitmanWilly: not the songs from the store just the podcast portal with the (drm) free stuff..11:54
rixxonterrestre: what if I reinstall it via aptitude... :)11:54
rixxonlike some forced installation11:55
hitmanWillymoofoo, well, maybe through a web browser, but not through any nix app11:55
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terrestrei tried that11:55
terrestrebut nothing happend11:55
rixxonheh11:55
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ZekeI can't get it to delete any the driver either11:56
ScorpKingZeke: try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=261686 or search in google - netgear 311 v3 on ubuntu11:56
ScorpKingZeke: i'm not sure how to fix that11:57
drewmisterwhen partition for a dual boot system with win xp and gentoo i kept getting a invalid partition table error, can you not set 2 partitions on the same drive to bootable?  i noticed fdisk in my current instalation has no linux partitions marked as bootable, whereas i was trying to get a /boot partition and my ntfs partition on the gentoo installation11:57
drewmisterthats another reason i was trying out the ubuntu, to see how it configured grub automatically and see how it set boot flag partitions (surprised me when no linux partitions were set to bootable)11:58
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ScorpKingdrewmister: sudo cfdisk /dev/hda and set the main partition active11:59
terrestrerixxon: this work for me http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnomedapper12:00
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rixxonterrestre: but that's dapper and not gnome12:01
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drewmister<scorpionking> the main partition being my windows ntfs? it has that set as bootable, and grub still boots ubuntu kernel without being on a bootable partition12:01
TECKBWhi all12:02
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terrestrerixxon: you have to read more :P12:02
drewmisterwhen i set both my ntfs partition and my / partition to boot during my gentoo installation i got the invalid partition table12:03
ScorpKingdrewmister: i think you can only have one as boot12:03
TECKBWhow can i mount a fat32 patition as writable...I have mounted it, but only able to write when using sudo12:03
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rixxonterrestre: like, what?12:03
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ScorpKingTECKBW: try to mount it with -o uid=1000,gid=100012:04
TECKBWwill do ...let u know in a minute12:04
drewmisterk that must have been my problem, there is no clear documentation of that... GRUB configures it to boot regardless of being a bootable partition is what i'm finding on google now12:04
vgehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37265/ <-- someone can help me with simplest of htaccess, it just dont seem to work :/12:04
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TECKBWScorpKing -- >I can't seem to see the files now that i mounted with the above12:06
ScorpKingTECKBW: sudo ls ?12:07
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TECKBWScorpKing sudo LS or IS12:07
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TECKBW?12:07
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ScorpKingls12:07
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TECKBWwhat is that supposed to do?12:08
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TECKBWit does nothing on my side12:08
terrestre_rixxon: did you find the link? left side of the screen on playing around, pure kde12:08
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terrestre_how i kill my old nick?12:08
rixxon/msg nickserv ghost12:08
ScorpKingTECKBW: it will show the files as root - sudo ls /dir12:09
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TECKBWnothing comes up12:09
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terrestrethanks  rixxon, did you find the link?12:09
TECKBWthere are some files as I copied files with sudo cp command12:09
TECKBWand they were there12:10
rixxonyea, but the scrollbar for the gnome command doesn't work so you can't copy the whole command *g*12:10
TECKBWchecked on my windows machine..12:10
ScorpKingTECKBW: run mount to make sure it's mounted12:10
rixxonplus this solution removes everything, even what I manually installed (like firefox)12:10
rixxonah well, thanks anyway12:10
TECKBWyes now I got the files visable using ls12:11
TECKBWstill no access without using sudo12:12
ScorpKingls -l12:12
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ScorpKingcheck if ur the owner of the files12:12
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TECKBWhow do u do that in the terminal12:13
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ScorpKingTECKBW: ls -l /dir12:13
terrestrerixxon: just take of firefox from the remove list12:13
rixxonterrestre: it was just an example, i don't remember all i pulled manually.12:14
TECKBWok...its working now...unmounted and remounted12:14
TECKBWand its working now12:14
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terrestrerixxon: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37272/12:14
TECKBWnow another question how do get it to mount at boot time12:14
ScorpKingTECKBW: so you can copy stuff without sudo12:14
TECKBWyes...can also delete files without sudo12:15
rixxonterrestre: ...would remove kde for me. :P12:15
TECKBWwhere do I add the mount command to do it at boot time12:15
ScorpKingin /etc/fstab12:15
TECKBWI think I will be out of the chat for a while so that I can test the config.12:15
terrestrerixxon: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37273/12:16
ScorpKingTECKBW:  something like - /dev/sda1   /media/usb  auto rw,user,noauto 0  012:16
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rixxonterrestre: thanks... so is it safe? ubuntu seems so sensitive to being tinkered with12:17
rixxonterrestre: that still removes kde :p12:17
rixxonterrestre: nevermind I don't dare anyway. thanks though.12:18
TECKBWi did that earlier...got that from ubuntu forum...but it did not work....  /dev/hdb1 /home/xxx auto rw,user,noauto 0 012:18
TECKBWand could not write to that location only using sudo12:19
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ScorpKingTECKBW: add the other options i gave you - rw,user,uid=1000,gid=1000,noauto . i think that will work12:20
terrestrerixxon: that is for reinstall a complete pure kde, maybe next time use aptitude to install ubuntu-desktop :P12:20
rixxonyea... :P12:20
TECKBWok will try that ... will have to reboot...to test....so will let u know as soon as i have rebooted12:20
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rixxongonna reinstall kubuntu when 7.10 is out anyway12:20
rixxoni want to encrypt my partitions12:20
ScorpKingTECKBW: that's a hard drive. wait12:21
terrestreyeah, its not a long wait12:21
ScorpKingrixxon: thats easy :) use loopback12:21
rixxonScorpKing: hm?12:21
ScorpKingone sec.12:21
TECKBWyes it is...secondary hdd12:22
rixxonyou mean I encrypt an image and mount it as a loopback device12:22
ScorpKingTECKBW: the noauto option there will stop it from mounting at boot12:22
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ScorpKingrixxon: no. encrypt the hd and mount it as loop12:22
rixxonScorpKing: uh..?12:23
TECKBWso do the same without the noauto12:23
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rixxonScorpKing: shouldn't I use luks ..12:23
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ScorpKingrixxon: let me just help TECKBW. i'll be with u now. :)12:23
rixxonsure :D12:23
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TECKBWScorpKing--->so do the same without the noauto12:24
mimowhat needs to be setup to have an auto connect to the inet on boot?12:24
ScorpKingTECKBW: the options there are for usb drives.12:24
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mimofound this at /etc "pppoe_on_boot"12:24
gustavohola12:24
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TECKBWwell it worked when manually mounting with sudo /dev/hdb1 etc12:24
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mimobut something seems to be still missing12:25
gustavoalgien en espaol12:25
ScorpKingTECKBW: change it to /dev/hdb1 /media/disk vfat  defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 012:25
ScorpKing!es12:25
UbotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.12:25
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ScorpKingTECKBW: when it's mounted run sudo chown 1000:1000 -R /dir/whith/the/files/12:25
MacZtttlkworkhi12:25
MacZtttlkwork!kbfx12:26
UbotuSorry, I don't know anything about kbfx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:26
ScorpKingTECKBW: that should do it.12:26
MacZtttlkworkI've installed kbfx and it just don't work... I can open the settings window and so on, but the KBFX menu dosen't appear...12:26
TECKBWok...will try let u know as soon as this machine boots up...PII very slow12:26
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MacZtttlkworkA PII with Kubuntu? With KDE? wow...12:26
ScorpKingrixxon: i've encrypted one of my drives and it works great. there is a howto for it. let me see if i can find it.12:27
MacZtttlkworkWonder what's the speed of the Desktop.12:27
mefisto__wonder how much ram...12:27
rixxonScorpKing: well plan was to use this method https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyEncryptedRootWithInstaller12:27
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ScorpKingchecking...12:28
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trprMacZtttlkwork: pretty amazing. my PII350 actually manages to pull duty as a tv box.. X crashes periodically but its usuable12:28
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ScorpKingrixxon: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Loopback-Encrypted-Filesystem-HOWTO.html i think that's what u want.12:28
MacZtttlkworkI have a Pentium MMX 150Mhz laptop and the only usable OS I found is Puppy! And it works pretty good.12:29
rixxonthanks12:29
ScorpKingnp12:29
MacZtttlkworkRemember when using the first KDE 3.x...12:29
ScorpKingrixxon: just don't forget the password or encryption u use. :)12:29
MacZtttlkworkwith Mandriva 9, I think... I was impressed... and it worked in my Pentium II but somethings like resizing icons where a bit slow.12:30
MacZtttlkworkwere*12:30
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MacZtttlkworkso does anybody have kbfx with kubuntu feisty?12:30
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ScorpKingMacZtttlkwork: mine is 340Mhz so it runs kubuntu. i have kbfx12:31
rixxonScorpKing: i think luks is a better more modern solution12:31
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MacZtttlkworkwhat amount of RAM?12:32
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MacZtttlkworkMy pentium II had 512MB :-D It worked with Windows XP and all! But a stormy day, it died :-(12:32
ScorpKingrixxon: the encryption modules come with kubuntu so you don't need to do any of the kernel stuff. just look at the losetup commands and so on so u can see how it works.12:32
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venikHow do I enable JAVA in Konqueror?  The appropriate boxes are checked in the settings12:32
ScorpKingMacZtttlkwork: 320MB12:32
MacZtttlkworkand it was overclocked to 330Mhz (sold as a 260mhz one)12:33
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MacZtttlkworkScorpKing, and...is KDE faster than GNOME? I'd bet it is... even when it's more advanced... but nobody would believe me. lol12:34
ScorpKingi love kde. never use gnome so i won't know :)12:34
TECKBWwell this PII that I am using was given juice...xp no longer worked on it...kept hanging so I loaded fiesty and hey no freeze...works faster and more reliable than xp...with only 192mb ram12:34
lavacano201014oats12:34
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mefisto__PII with 192mb ram? and kde is practical?12:35
MacZtttlkworkTECKBW pretty amazing stuff!! The only problem now is that people usually got the live cd... and if you have less tan 256... it becomes impossible to install it. Yes, I know, there's a CD designed for that.12:35
venikany clue about JAVA with Konqueror?12:35
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TECKBWi installed using live cd...got the disks from shipit12:36
rixxonMacZtttlkwork: i think kde is heavier than gnome, but it cooperates better. also, kde4 will use qt4 which has been further optimized12:36
TECKBWit takes a while....for the installer to start but once started no problems at all...a long wait while changing screens....12:36
ScorpKingTECKBW: i've seen a few computers and even HD's that will run linux when windows refuse.12:36
TECKBWbut not too long....click go make a cupa tea... drink the tea and the next click should be ready12:37
ScorpKinghd's with bad blocks and all12:37
MacZtttlkworkI've recently tried Vista in this computer (AMD 2600+, 512MB) and despite all the hype over there it was pretty good.... but it hanged (guess something related to the BIOS driver ?) and since it didn't supportted hardware accel for my ATI Radeon 9200 I came to the conclussion that Kubuntu was better, and even more beautiful (Vista won't let me use Aero 'cause my card has no drivers...)12:37
lparryvista :P the most slowest pile of crap that moves12:38
MacZtttlkworkIt ran fine for me.12:38
mefisto__ScorpKing: it happened to me. windows screwed my ntfs partition, linux brought it back to life12:38
TECKBWI just wish my tv tuner would work on linux...well the usb one in actuall fact...but not meant for linux...meant for xp Media Center Edition...the tuner is a HP AVC 3610 and can't find out how to get it to work12:38
MacZtttlkworkBut it hanged... :(12:38
lparrytakes about 5 minutes to get logged on at a comptuer from school (boot to desktop)12:38
ScorpKingwhere can i upload a screenshot of my desktop? something like pastebin12:38
lparry3 minutes on much newer computer12:38

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