[12:38] <ScorpKing> bigleon_: i just wanna send some of these guys there. it might help them a lot. lol
[12:39] <tinin> thanx, BluesKaj for something to start
[12:39] <rustalot> also, apt-get update times out wile getting a gpg key
[12:39] <bigleon_> Rask330 Make sure you have all updates, then do a goggle search on your sound card model, and you should be able to find some information to help.
[12:39] <hitmanWilly> lnx_, ok, go into settings -> peripherals -> display
[12:39] <bigleon_> +
[12:40] <Rask330> bigleon_:  All updates as in apt-get update/apt-get upgrade?
[12:40] <rustalot> the apt-get update part
[12:40] <bigleon_> Search " Kubuntu *soundcard model*"
[12:41] <bigleon_> Usually with in 5 first results on google you'll find some usefull information, and if that fails check the Kubuntu database
[12:41] <rustalot> Could not connect to ca.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (206.167.141.10), connection timed out
[12:41] <hitmanWilly> lnx_, any luck?
[12:41] <bigleon_> rustalot: make sure internet connection is working then try again.
[12:41] <henrik_> sorry to bother you, but my graphics driver has gone nuts! I can only see things in 640x480, and i dont know what to do! Ive got a nVidia card if that helps.
[12:42] <lnx_> hitmanWilly , my system is not in english , and i didnt find it , you mean "system settings" ?
[12:42] <bigleon_> !find Nvidia
[12:42] <rustalot> it's working fine
[12:42] <Ubotu> Found: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-386, linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-generic, nvidia-kernel-common, nvidia-settings, nvidia-xconfig (and 14 others)
[12:42] <rustalot> I'm talking to you guys
[12:42] <hitmanWilly> lnx_, actually, alt-f2, then run kcontrol
[12:42] <bigleon_> !nvidia-xconfig | henrik_
[12:42] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidia-xconfig - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:43] <hitmanWilly> lnx_, then go under peripherals -> display -> screen size
[12:43] <cash> !HP
[12:43] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:43] <bigleon_> Well Henrik even though bot hates me, I can tell you its with your x-config settings, so try and google that and see what others with same problem have come up with
[12:43] <hitmanWilly> lnx_, translating into your native language as appropriate :)
[12:43] <cash> !Hewlet Packard
[12:43] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hewlet packard - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:43] <BluesKaj> !nvidia | henrik_
[12:43] <Ubotu> henrik_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:45] <hitmanWilly> lnx_, i'd help in your language, but I only speak english, and badly at that :)
[12:45] <rustalot> I think the ca.archive.ubuntu.com server is down
[12:45] <bigleon_> hitmanWilly hahaha
[12:45] <bigleon_> rustalot did you trya ping?
[12:45] <lnx_> hitmanWilly , np iwill find it
[12:45] <rustalot> yeah, it doesn't respond
[12:45] <henrik_> say it says i got my nvidia drivers installed, but i still cant make it any larger than 640x480. :/ iguess i have to rewrite that xorg.conf file... right?
[12:45] <bigleon_> Yeah i'm pinging it too i'm not getting anything either
[12:45] <bigleon_> Correct henrik_
[12:46] <hitmanWilly> lnx_, also, you may want to check "Apply settings on startup"
[12:46] <rustalot> bigleon_:71 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 70021ms
[12:46] <BluesKaj> yeah, rustalot afraid so ...been trying to update for the last hr or so ...it's stuck
[12:46] <henrik_> bigleon_ thanks, i'll look it up!
[12:46] <bigleon_> try a different archive server
[12:46] <rustalot> how do I do that?
[12:46] <bigleon_> rustalot to be honest i'm not sure, but i think there is more than one isn't there?
[12:47] <cash> Im so sorry for stupid question ,how to register here/
[12:47] <hitmanWilly> cash, /msg nickserv register help
[12:47] <BluesKaj> !register | cash
[12:47] <bigleon_> i registered my old account and forgot it's password lmao, so i'm not gonna regi again XD
[12:47] <Ubotu> cash: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[12:47] <cash> thanks too ALL
[12:48] <BluesKaj> err cash-register ? :)
[12:48] <bigleon_> Lmao Blueskag
[12:48] <bigleon_> kaj**
[12:48] <hitmanWilly> bigleon_, if it hasn't been used in a long time, you may be able to get it back
[12:48] <bigleon_> well i tried to log in with plain Bigleon and it says me name is taken
[12:49] <lnx_> hitmanWilly , i have found it but generaly i cant have asetting tool for the video card and the driver ( like when i install video card with envy ) ?
[12:49] <bigleon_> and with my luck with kon, i'm not going to reconnect for a nick... frankly i'll live with bigleon_
[12:49] <hitmanWilly> bigleon_, i think you have to contact the freenode people
[12:49] <cash> BluesKaj yes ) need to change name ? ))
[12:49] <BluesKaj> no cash, it was ajoke
[12:50] <hitmanWilly> lnx_, nvidia-settings may be what you want...however, that will change the screen res, at least going down :)
[12:50] <cash> BluesKaj oh ))
[12:50] <hitmanWilly> lnx_, that tool is just for kde too, by the way
[12:50] <rustalot> btw, is there a tool to easily configure dual monitors?
[12:50] <hitmanWilly> lnx_, the only other way i know of is manually editing xorg.conf
[12:51] <ScorpKing> bigleon_: if u registred with a email you'll be able to recover ur passwd
[12:51] <lnx_> yes i know i hate to manually edit
[12:52] <cody> hello all
[12:52] <cody> im having some issues
[12:52] <hitmanWilly> lnx_, that tool also will only go with video modes defined in xorg.conf, so if you want to use one that's not listed, you still have to edit the config file
[12:52] <slug> hello, i have a problem with the livecd for kubutnu...and ubuntu
[12:52] <Bigleon> hmm
[12:53] <Bigleon> I think it worked
[12:53] <Bigleon> nope
[12:53] <cody> the drivers for my linksys wireless g card seem to not be working -_-
[12:53] <cody> and i do believe they are the correct ones
[12:53] <hitmanWilly> Bigleon, well, im seeing you :)
[12:53] <BluesKaj> looks like success , Bigleon
[12:54] <Bigleon> well it says my nick is registered
[12:54] <Bigleon> and i can't seem to guess my pass XD
[12:54] <Bigleon> i don't know if it's going to kick me or what if i keep failing
[12:54] <Bigleon> HAHAH
[12:54] <Bigleon> guessed it
[12:54] <BluesKaj> Bigleon, you in canucksville too ?
[12:54] <Bigleon> canucksville?
[12:55] <thomas1> I have a question: I want to be able to have a secure remote connection to my comptuer when I'm not at home. Should I use Samba or some other method?
[12:55] <BluesKaj> yeah, Canada
[12:55] <Bigleon> Nope, Emporia Kansas
[12:55] <slug> hello, i have a problem with the livecd for kubutnu...and ubuntu
[12:55] <Bigleon> Enjoying my college years
[12:55] <Bigleon> well if you'll call it that
[12:55] <MG> Yes, slug, what is your problem
[12:56] <Bigleon> People are so quick to describing their problems
[12:56] <thomas1> I described my question
[12:57] <BluesKaj> ok Bigleon , your whois reminds me of the large french populus here
[12:57] <Bigleon> my whois?
[12:57] <cash_> Again have a question )))
[12:57] <Bigleon> shoot cash
[12:57] <cash_> =))
[12:57] <Bigleon> i'm just looked at my whois, who does that remind you of french people
[12:57] <Bigleon> you mean my last name?
[12:58] <Bigleon> I'm actually German
[12:58] <slug> MG, when i go to load the livecd for either kununtu or ubnutu on my laptop, i can never get to a working desktop, it always seems to stall and show only parts of the gui and i can't do anything.
[12:58] <thomas1> I have a question: I want to be able to have a secure remote connection to my comptuer when I'm not at home. Should I use Samba or some other method?
[12:58] <Bigleon> Slug, what verison are you using for your live CD
[12:58] <slug> MG, but when i go and load another distro's livecd i don't have any issues
[12:58] <BluesKaj> pass your cursor over your nick in the nicklist ...Dupuis is quite French
[12:58] <Bigleon> Thomas1 I used Krdc
[12:58] <slug> 7.04
[12:58] <newsense> slug: i hade same problem and got an iso off kbuntus site
[12:59] <thomas1> Bigleon: ok i'll find out what that is but samba no good?
[12:59] <Bigleon> Yeah, family  name from my fathers side, idk.. werid... but i'm not french at all
[12:59] <slug> i'm trying to boot from pressed cds that i got from shipit
[12:59] <newsense> slug:some kind of iso for slow machines
[12:59] <Biovore> md5sum your cd's before using them..
[12:59] <Bigleon> Thomas1 i just use KRDC it works and it's password secure
[12:59] <slug> newsense, the machine is a p4
[12:59] <cash_> I was install kubuntu on the laptop , was set resolution 1280x800 ,and fonts from ms windows.But I my eyes is tired =( how I can check maybe settings ,ot where I can find the normal settings .COuze it is reallly danger for my health
[12:59] <thomas1> Bigleon: you know what samba is right?
[12:59] <Bigleon> cash_ to be honest, i don't think yoru health is such a danger, but you config
[01:00] <Bigleon> thomas1 i remeber reading about it on something today. you talking about remote connecting...
[01:00] <Bigleon> i think
[01:00] <ScorpKing> if i have a vnc server running on xp but the firewall only have port 22 open on the router to a linux server on the internal network, is there a way i can connect to it?
[01:01] <Bigleon> I use tightvnc on my windows, and it works well with KRDC both ways
[01:01] <cash_> Bigleon ,Issue or problem .dint know how to say right .really exist =(( \
[01:02] <Bigleon> cash_ at any rate check ur Xconfig
[01:02] <slug> Bigleon, the cds i'm using are from 7.04
[01:02] <MG> slug: how much memory does your computer have?
[01:02] <Bigleon> slug, if they aren't working IDK what to tell you make sure your disk aren't cracked or scracthed severly or something.
[01:02] <slug> MG, 256
[01:02] <Bigleon> haha
[01:02] <Bigleon> yeah you need more memory
[01:02] <Biovore> ^ thats your problem
[01:02] <Bigleon> atleast 512
[01:03] <Biovore> 386 is min
[01:03] <Biovore> 384 MB
[01:03] <Bigleon> i use 2048 :D
[01:03] <slug> Bigleon, they're brand new disks used only when i went to install last night
[01:03] <Biovore> live cd will not run on 256 MB of ram
[01:03] <Bigleon> slug yeah you need way more ram, i think dapper verison will worth with about 256mb
[01:03] <Biovore> thats why its taking for ever
[01:03] <thomas1> Bigleon: No I want to connect from a windows machine to my linux machine
[01:04] <Biovore> slug: you probably don't want to run the fancy graphical desktops with only 256 MB ram..
[01:04] <slug> Bigleon, is there a way to just install it right off the livecd without the gui part then
[01:04] <hitmanWilly> slug, the alt cd uses a lot less, IIRC
[01:04] <thomas1> Bigleon: to download files
[01:04] <Bigleon> thomas1 Okay what i use, is tightvnc on my windows machine, (newest ver) and start KRFD on my linux machine
[01:04] <cody> grrr
[01:04] <cody> geting drivers for wireless installed is a pain in the ass
[01:04] <cash_> Bigleon but with what document or example I can compare
[01:04] <Bigleon> cash_ thats a google away
[01:04] <cash_> k
[01:04] <hitmanWilly> cody, depends on the card :P
[01:05] <Biovore> intel wireless = easy
[01:05] <cody> linksys wireless g
[01:05] <Bigleon> cody it's okay kubuntu hates all of my Wireless cards
[01:05] <Biovore> broadcom == gay
[01:05] <nicio> Tm_T: tanks honey ;)
[01:05] <cody> mhmm
[01:05] <nicio> lol
[01:05] <Biovore> ndiswrapper == gayest idea ever..
[01:05] <cody> ..
[01:05] <cody> cha
[01:05] <cody> hopefully this last driver worked
[01:05] <Bigleon> Biovore i hate ndiswrapper too
[01:05] <Biovore> But it works.. just a pain
[01:06] <Tm_T> nicio thanks what?
[01:06] <Bigleon> Biovore atleast it worked
[01:06] <Bigleon> Biovore my wireless is still giving me the big FU
[01:06] <Biovore> nothing like porting broadcom windows driver bugs to linux.. :-P
[01:06] <ScorpKing> hi xp_killer
[01:06] <Tm_T> actually, your bans are still valid
[01:06] <Bigleon> so does xp_killer kill the faces with X eyes sticking their tounges out?
[01:07] <slug> ok thanks guys, i'll try the alt cd
[01:07] <Bigleon> cause thats not very nice i love those faces
[01:07] <xp_killer> Bigleon: much worst
[01:07] <cody> segihs;iubvs;iur;sdufbh;zdkjfbh;Z
[01:07] <xp_killer> hihi
[01:07] <cody> it hates me -_-
[01:07] <xp_killer> why?
[01:07] <Bigleon> cody it hates me more, just remeber that.
[01:07] <cody> its not connecting
[01:07] <riccardo> yeah
[01:07] <BluesKaj> he insists on keeping that silly nick , Bigleon
[01:08] <cody> iv tried 3 sets of drivers and none work
[01:08] <Bigleon> BluesKaj to be honest Bigleon isn't exactly a prime nic either.
[01:08] <xp_killer> cody: wat isnt conecting?
[01:08] <Bigleon> xp_killer his wireless
[01:08] <cody> My linksys wireless g to my linksys router in the livingroom
[01:09] <xp_killer> Tm_T: im know for my behavior lol q_p
[01:09] <cody> ndiswrapper says device is presant
[01:09] <BluesKaj> no matter , we're not out to :bash" windows here ...we just want our linux fix
[01:09] <hitmanWilly> BluesKaj, yell at broadcom then :P
[01:09] <Bigleon> what about Mac can we bash Macintosh?
[01:10] <cody> how doi changeESSID in konsole
[01:10] <hitmanWilly> Bigleon, you mean BSD for dummies? lol
[01:10] <MG> a macinitosh is a wonderful machine if you don
[01:10] <Bigleon> Lmao hitmanWilly wow i really Lol'ed on that.
[01:10] <MG> 't mind paying
[01:10] <MG> $5000 for a $1000 computer
[01:10] <Bigleon> MG i'd rather use windows 95 than any Mac Computer any day.
[01:10] <BluesKaj> <--- doesn't do wireless ... always believed in wires for solid connections
[01:10] <cody> how do i change ESSID in konsole
[01:10] <Daisuke_Ido> i considered buying a macbook, but what's the use if i'm just going to run ubuntu anyway?
[01:11] <Bigleon> I like dell, ya know, get a very nice warranty and put linux on it.
[01:11] <Bigleon> currently i still need to go pick up a replacement part sitting in mailroom i'm to lazy to run and get.
[01:11] <tazgodx> anyone know a good Java IDE for linux?
[01:11] <dwidmann|terra> Bigleon: smarter to not get a warranty, then when they  try to hassle you into getting one you can get a steep discount on it
[01:11] <Bigleon> cody You should be able to change in your wireless settings.
[01:11] <hitmanWilly> tazgodx, well, there's eclipse
[01:12] <BluesKaj> java IDE ?
[01:12] <dwidmann|terra> netbeans?
[01:12] <Bigleon> dwidmann|terra well, I got it paid for of a state account where 3 years were free :D
[01:12] <cody> Bigleon: I know but when i type iwconfig it shows ESSID as blank
[01:12] <Rask330> BluesKaj / Bigleon:  Problem solved.  Motherboard had some jumpers set incorrectly.  I feel sillyish.  X)
[01:12] <Bigleon> cody, what manager are you using for your wireless?
[01:12] <Bigleon> rask330 Lmao, well good you figured it out Rask
[01:13] <tazgodx> ill check out eclipse, thanks
[01:13] <cody> NetworkManager Applet 0.6.4
[01:13] <Daisuke_Ido> eclipse is great, jbuilder has a linux version if you're rich.
[01:13] <BluesKaj> Rask330, glad to "hear" it :)
[01:13] <Daisuke_Ido> (but jbuilder 2007 is built on eclipse anyway, so...)
[01:13] <Bigleon> Daisuke_Ido for whats expensive there is a isohunt free alternative :P
[01:13] <Rask330> One last question, though-- is there a way to set kmix to its default settings, before I started throwing everything every which-way?
[01:13] <Daisuke_Ido> Bigleon: HAH!
[01:13] <Bigleon> Rask330 you could always just reinstall it
[01:14] <Daisuke_Ido> that's all i have to say to that.
[01:14] <Daisuke_Ido> i have to have jbuilder for school
[01:14] <cody> im fu&*ed
[01:14] <Daisuke_Ido> so i went looking for the linux version
[01:14] <BluesKaj> Rask330, kmix doesn't have defaults
[01:14] <Rask330> Does the mixer?
[01:14] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: pm me thanks
[01:15] <Daisuke_Ido> i ended up installing xp in vmware (although now that i've got virtualization enabled, i might try kvm)
[01:15] <Bigleon> Daisuke_Ido well isohunt is nice cause even has shit you've never heard of free. It's where i got my Vista Utimate.. thank a higher power i didn't pay for that XD
[01:15] <MG> Use Menubar -> Settings -> Configure KMix.\
[01:15] <hitmanWilly> Rask330, yeah, everything muted and all the way down :P
[01:15] <MG> Restore volumes on login
[01:16] <Rask330> Excellent. :o
[01:16] <Rask330> Well, thanks, everyone. x3
[01:16] <cody> Bigleon:  any ideas?
[01:16] <Daisuke_Ido> nice thing is i had a legit copy of xp lying around
[01:16] <Bigleon> cody on you being fu&*ed no..
[01:17] <cody> -_- on helping me fix it
[01:17] <kelvie_> is it not possible to run a sh script from konqueror by double clicking on it?
[01:17] <Bigleon> Daisuke_Ido I got a OEM for dell and compaq :D
[01:17] <kelvie_> or rather, single clicking
[01:18] <Bigleon> cody To be honest, my wireless is stil  telling me to Fudge off, so i can't really help you
[01:20] <Bigleon> checking lag
[01:20] <Bigleon> it hink Konversation is hating me again
[01:22] <DaSkreech> Tm_T: I missed something? what's the -b for?
[01:23] <Bigleon> DaSKreech what cilent are you using to connect?
[01:24] <DaSkreech> to?
[01:24] <Bigleon> IRC
[01:24] <Bigleon> IT seems like everyone left the room is so quiet.
[01:24] <DaSkreech> in general konversation somedays (today) chatzilla On bad days kopete
[01:24] <DaSkreech> Bigleon: join #ubuntu
[01:25] <DaSkreech> cacaphony
[01:25] <Bigleon> or i'm lagging like crazy, lmao.
[01:25] <DaSkreech> Sorry kakaphony :)
[01:25] <cody> YAY
[01:25] <cody> I FIGURED IT OUT
[01:25] <BluesKaj> i prefer konverstion to xchat, but the lack of auto server list bothers me somewhat
[01:25] <DaSkreech> !caps | cody
[01:25] <Ubotu> cody: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[01:25] <cody> Sorry -_-
[01:25] <DaSkreech> cody: but CONGRATS!!
[01:25] <DaSkreech> :-)
[01:25] <hydrogen> what do you mean by auto server list BluesKaj?
[01:26] <DaSkreech> cody: Feels groovy doesn't it?
[01:26] <cody> GLee
[01:26] <cody> glee
[01:26] <Bigleon> Cody what did you do
[01:26] <BluesKaj> hydrogen, no server list included by default
[01:26] <Bigleon> DaSkreech any reason to join Ubuntu
[01:26] <hydrogen> BluesKaj: don't you know what server you are going to connect to already?
[01:27] <cody> Found the right driver
[01:27] <cody> i was using the v3 of my drived and i needed the v2
[01:27] <cody> the card i have has 4 versions
[01:27] <cody> i ad the wrong driver for my card
[01:27] <Bigleon> Well cody, seems to be most common problem for wireless cards
[01:28] <BluesKaj> I used to like to surf IRC , like I used to on mirc in windows ...not so much anymore , but if I do i have to use xchat
[01:28] <Bigleon> Blueskaj The trick is to have where you wana be memorized :D
[01:28] <DaSkreech> Bigleon: Never feel lonely again
[01:28] <DaSkreech> it never gets quiet in there
[01:29] <BluesKaj> yeah, i have a few servers already setup
[01:29] <BluesKaj> the heavies like undernet
[01:29] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: are they a band?
[01:30] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech,  big networks = heavies :)
[01:31] <Bigleon> :( Konversation is  really hating on   me
[01:31] <BluesKaj> Bigleon, what's the problem?
[01:33] <DBeta> Anyone in here have any mythTV experience?
[01:33] <NickPresta> DBeta, just ask your MythTV related question. If someone can help you, they will :)
[01:33] <Minataku> Woah... massive Excess Flood... how suspicious is that
[01:33] <Minataku> lol
[01:34] <Minataku> DBeta: Have you tried in #mythtv (if such exists)?
[01:34] <DBeta> Ahh. Well, seems after attempting to run it, it gives me the "Access denied for user: 'mythtv@localhost'" error in terminal.
[01:34] <DBeta> It might, I probably should have looked.
[01:34] <BluesKaj> DBeta, a few vey brave and knowledgable souls have a working knowledge ...but we don't get many mythtv questions anymore
[01:34] <claydoh> DBeta: there is also #ubuntu-mythtv which is pretty active
[01:34] <DBeta> Ahh, that might work better, I'll stop by there.
[01:35] <bobbob1016> not sure if this is the right place, but how can I get Amarok to play songs when I double click them, instead of making them a playlist?
[01:35] <Bigleon> wahhh told you knov hates me took for ever to connect
[01:36] <BluesKaj> bobbob1016, right click on the song and choose amarok in "open with" , the it will auto open the next time you click on a song
[01:36] <hydrogen> bobbob1016: its not possible
[01:36] <hydrogen> bobbob1016: without modifying amarok's source code
[01:36] <bobbob1016> I meant when I double click it in Amarok
[01:37] <hydrogen> it only happens if the playlist is empty
[01:37] <bobbob1016> hydrogen, Oh, damn, because I like everything else about it, the magnatune built in, and the device pickup, just this is annoying, glad it wasn't that I couldn't find it though.  Thanks
[01:37] <cody> wow
[01:38] <cody> 6 hours later i get Mint Installed with internet
[01:38] <hydrogen> bobbob1016: you can right click on songs and choose play instead of double clicking
[01:38] <hydrogen> its a bit more work but
[01:38] <Bigleon> *cries* helllo???
[01:38] <sousl> Hello all, I tried playing MP3, on Amarok, and it says Mp3 not supported. Any suggestions?
[01:38] <hydrogen> sousl: it should give you a dialog to click
[01:39] <hydrogen> to install support for mp3's
[01:39] <hydrogen> sousl: if it doesn't, sudo apt-get install libxine1-extracodecs
[01:39] <hydrogen> err
[01:39] <hydrogen> sousl: if it doesn't, sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[01:39] <sousl> thank you
[01:40] <DaSkreech> Bigleon: damn
[01:41] <sousl> Thank you folks.
[01:41] <sousl> Good bye.
[01:42] <Bigleon> testing one to can people hear me? Konversation is really being mean to me
[01:42] <DaSkreech> Bigleon: can You hear me?
[01:50] <cody> ok i jynxed myself
[01:50] <cody> my interwrbs is not working
[01:50] <cody> webs
[01:51] <cody> when i type iwconfig i have no essid
[01:51] <DaSkreech> cody: try iwlist <device> scan
[01:52] <cody> what would the device be
[01:52] <Bigleon> Gah
[01:52] <hatter> if i want gdm to auto login a user, where do i put the password for that user ?
[01:52] <Bigleon> can people hear me i've been trying to connect for 20 minutes
[01:53] <Bigleon> why does Konversation hate me so much T_T
[01:53] <MG> I wonder where Bigleon went
[01:53] <ScorpKing> Bigleon: u there?
[01:53] <DaSkreech> cody: just press tab it will sort it out
[01:53] <cody> DaSkreech: would it be eth1
[01:54] <cody> no results
[01:54] <cody> grrrr
[01:54] <cody> wtf
[01:54] <DaSkreech> iwlist <space><tab>
[01:54] <cody> my laptops right next to it and it s connected
[01:54] <Bigleon> Yeah i'm finally back
[01:54] <MG> he was here then he went away
[01:55] <MG> no part message, no nothing
[01:55] <DaSkreech> hi Bigleon
[01:55] <BluesKaj> where's Bigleon ?
[01:55] <DaSkreech> You couldn't see anything I was saying?
[01:55] <cody> nothing
[01:55] <cody> No scan results
[01:55] <BluesKaj> just kidding , Bigleon ..see ya just fine :)
[01:56] <cody> grrrr
[01:56] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: you're there?
[01:57] <Bigleon> I think
[01:57] <Bigleon> Omg
[01:57] <Bigleon> i'm back
[01:57] <Bigleon> how long will this last
[01:57] <Bigleon> i'm scared
[01:58] <Bigleon> if you guys get this my msn is bigleon1@gmail.com I need some help fixing my IRC problems
[01:58] <BluesKaj> don't see any parts or joins , Bigleon
[01:58] <Tm_T> what problems?
[01:58] <Bigleon> I keep disconnecting
[01:58] <Bigleon> and reconnecting
[01:58] <Bigleon> and it driving me mad
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> try a different irc client. check the messages as to when it exits.. could just be lag.
[01:58] <Bigleon> i'm on my Kopete and having no connection issues
[01:58] <DaSkreech> Bigleon: try irssi
[01:59] <DaSkreech> or that works
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> testing out jircii right now. :)
[01:59] <Bigleon> I'm a little kubuntu challanged i don't know my alternatives
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> any that are in the repos can work. :)
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> !irc
[01:59] <Ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> irssi bitchx xchat  proberly 6+ others out there
[02:00] <Bigleon> I'm going to reinstall a fresh install of Kubuntu once i finishdling this live cd
[02:00] <DaSkreech> Bigleon: where are you connecting to? irc.ubuntu.com?
[02:00] <kkathman> i like kvirc  :)
[02:00] <Bigleon> correct DaSkreech
[02:01] <kkathman> if you dont like that tabbed irc approach that konversation has, xchat and kvirc are basically your only choices
[02:01] <Daisuke_Ido> konversation's tree is niiiice
[02:01] <Bigleon> I love Konversation frankly
[02:01] <Bigleon> it's better than X-fire or chatzilla
[02:01] <Bigleon> but it's just going crazy today
[02:02] <kkathman> i like to see the convo in the channels im in rather than having to switch constantly between them
[02:02] <Bigleon> oh i'm having issues with Kopete i can't seem to get my cam to broadcast or view others cam's. (yes my cam works.) they are yahoo and msn users.
[02:02] <blizzzek> test
[02:03] <Bigleon> blizzek rodger that :D
[02:04] <Bigleon> brb starting tonights laundry
[02:04] <blizzzek> sorry bout that
[02:04] <blizzzek> i tried something out i did not know :D
[02:04] <DaSkreech> Oh that sounds so different in the UK
[02:04] <DaSkreech> blizzzek: irssi?
[02:04] <blizzzek> DaSkreech: no, the miracle of /amsg
[02:04] <DaSkreech> Ha
[02:05] <Tm_T> Bigleon: you have needed port(s) forwarded and allowed in firewall?
[02:05] <DaSkreech> Tm_T: it works of rall clients but konversation
[02:06] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: ?
[02:06] <DaSkreech> of rall = for all
[02:06] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: what works? I was talking about Kopete and webcam issue :)
[02:09] <DaSkreech> Oh
[02:10] <DaSkreech> did he install libjasper?
[02:10] <Tm_T> ?
[02:13] <ScorpKing> what programe can i use to edit .ps files?
[02:14] <Dr_Willis> postscript files. Hmm
[02:14] <ScorpKing> yip
[02:14] <Dr_Willis> Not sure. Kno of a lot to view them.. but not sure about editing.
[02:15] <ScorpKing> yeah, i want to make a web based interface to create invoices for me. it will use a .ps file as a template and convert it to pdf but i need to make the template first.
[02:16] <NickPresta> ScorpKing, have you thought about making a PDF template and then editing it via the various libraries available?
[02:18] <ScorpKing> i found theis sed -e "s~FIELD1~$field1~" -e "s~FIELD2~$field2~" < template.ps > $field1.ps
[02:18] <Bigleon> OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:18] <ScorpKing> this*
[02:18] <Bigleon> -.-
[02:18] <NickPresta> !caps | Bigleon
[02:18] <Ubotu> Bigleon: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[02:18] <Bigleon> you guys can understand my frustration eh?
[02:18] <NickPresta> Bigleon, if you explained what you problem was instead of shouting, I suppose. :)
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> Bigleon not really.
[02:19] <ScorpKing> NickPresta: with the line above it's very easy to just edit a .ps template and use ps2pdf to convert it. unless there is an easier way.
[02:21] <NickPresta> ScorpKing, I'm not sure. I have never used PostScript files for anything really. I have done some template (editing) using a PHP and Python library.
[02:21] <ScorpKing> i'll look around on google
[02:34] <zblach> so kicker stays permanently locked. where does it store persistant information>
[02:37] <ScorpKing> NickPresta: the ps file i have was created by AbiWord. :)
[02:38] <Bigleon> hello???????
[02:39] <Bigleon> ughhhh
[02:39] <NickPresta> !hi | Bigleon
[02:39] <Ubotu> Bigleon: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[02:39] <Bigleon> really starting to hate konversation
[02:39] <NickPresta> Bigleon, welcome to GNU+Linux. You have freedom, and one freedom you have, is the freedom of choice. You can use another IRC client...
[02:40] <hatter> what do i use to login remotely to another machine with xdmcp ?
[02:40] <DaSkreech> NickPresta: bah you lie :)
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> hatter you can set up  kdm/xdm/gdm or manually to query/login to the remote box if its running the xdmcp stuff
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> hatter or under windows - you can install xming.
[02:43] <flaccid> !thinclient
[02:43] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thinclient - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:43] <hatter> Dr_Willis, i am logged in to my current box, and my other box is sitting at the gdm login screen,  i am unsure what to run on this box to get a login prompt
[02:43] <hatter> Dr_Willis, xdmcp is enable , btw
[02:43] <flaccid> hatter: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientHowto
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> hatter you MUST configure the remote box to  allow it. then you can configure gdm to 'query' for remote box's i recall.. or start up X wth the -query option.
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> hatter you need a whole remote desktop?
[02:44] <flaccid> hatter: you could consider thinclient
[02:44] <hatter> Dr_Willis, i just want to get past the login screen
[02:44] <Daisuke_Ido> nx?
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> if not you can just 'ssh -X or ssh -Y' to the box and run the apps you need to see locally
[02:44] <flaccid> there is a xdcmp howto as well. still looking
[02:44] <hatter> i can use x2x when i manually use startx
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> with the xdmcp stuff you would see the remote box's  'login window' on the local machine.
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> !info x2x
[02:45] <Ubotu> x2x: Link two X displays together, simulating a multiheaded display. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.27.svn.20060501-1 (feisty), package size 20 kB, installed size 76 kB
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> sounds icky. :)(
[02:45] <flaccid> can't find the xdcmp howto
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> I tend to use syngery if i cn see both machines.
[02:45] <hatter> Dr_Willis, but in a current sesssion, how do i bring up the login box ?
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> !xdmcp
[02:45] <Ubotu> xdmcp is the X Display Manger Control Protocol -- look at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/ to find out how to configure it
[02:45] <hatter> synergy works also, but x2x is fine
[02:45] <hatter> however, it doesnt work with gdm
[02:45] <flaccid> hatter: there is an amazing amount of howtos on google
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> hatter you dont you do how you are tryign to do it that way.
[02:46] <flaccid> hatter: http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=BFG&q=xdmcp+ubuntu&btnG=Search&meta=
[02:46] <ScorpKing> Dr_Willis: what does ssh -X or -Y do
[02:46] <flaccid> http://happypixels.ca/2006/03/01/using-xdmcp-with-ubuntu-or-any-other-gdm-running-distro/
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> gdm/kdm i recall had a 'query/xdmcp' option that then showed a list of machines.. ya clicked on. and Then it showed the login for that bos locally
[02:46] <Bigleon2> hello?
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> ScorpKing ssh's into the remote box and sets up where you can run apps there.. but see them here. :)
[02:46] <NickPresta> hi Bigleon2
[02:47] <ScorpKing> Dr_Willis: ok, but doesn't plain ssh do that or is that for running X apps?
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> depends. :)
[02:48] <hatter> flaccid, thx, i imagine there is a simple app to bring a login screen to an enabled xdmcp puter
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> if it did.. there wouldent be any need for the options.. of course  the admins can set up different defaults for sshd
[02:48] <hatter> Dr_Willis, that is what i am after, a query screen or a logon
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> X -- -query
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> :)
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> i think
[02:48] <Bigleon2> hello, i'm having some  bizzare   issues
[02:48] <hatter> ssh -X is for running X apps
[02:48] <hatter> but it doesnt let you login in to gdm
[02:48] <flaccid> i aint done xdcmp for a long time sorr
[02:48] <Bigleon2> holy crap my thing is holding a connection
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> flaccid yep. it can be a bit tricky
[02:49] <ScorpKing> Dr_Willis: ic. thanx :)
[02:49] <flaccid> isn't it disabled by default on ubuntu for security..
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> I often set my box where i have 2 X's going.. One is the local X. the other is a 'remote xdmcp' X on a remote machine.
[02:49] <hatter> yes its disabled
[02:49] <ScorpKing> Bigleon2: there are too many of u around. :)
[02:49] <NickPresta> Bigleon2, you need to explain in greater detail. "bizarre issues" doesn't help us...
[02:49] <hatter> but when it is enabled
[02:49] <hatter> i dont know how to bring the login window to my machine
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> you dont normally (or can) control a remote box's visible display with xdmcp
[02:50] <flaccid> isn't that what the howtos show you to do
[02:50] <BluesKaj> Bigleon2, does you college ISP have IRC "issues"...I've read that some do and try to block IRC clients to prevent dcc
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> hatter i belive the proper command would be like 'sudo X -- :1 -query' or similer.
[02:51] <hatter> Dr_Willis, querey might be it... thx i will check
[02:51] <tekstacy> 'lo all
[02:52] <tekstacy> About how much memory do extra desktops take up?
[02:52] <Bigleon2> This is bigleon1 anyone got idea why i kept loosing connection???
[02:52] <BluesKaj> Bigleon2, does you college ISP have IRC "issues"...I've read that some do and try to block IRC clients to prevent dcc
[02:52] <NickPresta> tekstacy, I'm not sure I understand. What do you mean by 'other desktops'?
[02:53] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: It's apparently a Konversation issue
[02:53] <ScorpKing> Dr_Willis: on a network far away :) i have an.ip.addr.9 tunning vnc-server and only ip.addr.1 can connect. the router only allow an.ip.addr.1 (linux server) connections from the web with ssh. is there a way to get to the vnc box? ssh tunneling maybe?
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> aha..
[02:53] <Dr_Willis>     To remotely access systems running these display managers you have to run your X server with a command such as:
[02:53] <Dr_Willis>         X -broadcast
[02:53] <ScorpKing> running*
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> ScorpKing ssh tunnling can do amazing things.. but ive not used that  stuff much. :(
[02:53] <tekstacy> The "multiple desktop" feature, you can find it under control center > desktop
[02:54] <ScorpKing> Dr_Willis: is there an easy way or should i just forward a port on the router to the vnc box?
[02:54] <NickPresta> tekstacy, I'm not sure that virtual desktops take up a significant amount of memory. I doubt they take up any extra when they're "empty". You can try running a few tests with `free` and see if you can spot a difference.
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> ScorpKing no idea.. id say port forward would be the easiest.. but for vnc. you may be MUCH better off doing a ssh tunnle for security
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> Virtual desktops dont take up any extra memory from what ir ecall int he past.
[02:55] <Jucato> tekstacy: almost no memory at all. you're already using 2 (or 4) virtual desktops by default
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> they were common YEARS ago on very very low end (by todays standard) machines.
[02:55] <Bigleon2> can someone contact me over msn who knows there way around connection issues? mhy msn is bigleon1@gmail.com i can't seem to hold an irc connection this is bigleon/1
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> they may actually just be memorized layouts of how the apps are. :)
[02:56] <DaSkreech> Your MSn is gmail.com ?
[02:56] <DaSkreech> that's impressive
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> not sure if they are actually virtual in the sence that you can have large scrolling desktops..
[02:56] <ScorpKing> Dr_Willis: yeah, that's why i only allowed connections from the ssh box on it. i think i 'm gonna look at tunneling. thanks
[02:56] <NickPresta> DaSkreech, his .NET passport account is, which is used to sign onto the MSN protocol :P
[02:56] <ScorpKing> lol
[02:56] <tekstacy> Cool, Thanks.
[02:57] <DaSkreech> That's impressive :)
[02:57] <Bigleon2> Yeah, as you can see i'm rnning 3 window s trying to connect yet my i-net and everythign else seems to work fine
[02:57] <Jucato> tekstacy: "virtual desktops" are virtual, a.k.a. fake. so you're not really running another real duplicate desktop
[02:57] <tekstacy> Cool. Still learning here.
[02:57] <Bigleon2> my 7.04 is having more issues holding connection than my 6.06 on a laptoop though funnyily enough
[02:58] <ScorpKing> Bigleon2: what connection do you have? also, any local dhcp servers?
[02:58] <Bigleon2> I'm running on a COllege network
[02:58] <Bigleon2> not to sure about infantstructure beyond my room
[02:59] <ScorpKing> sounds like fun. not sure what u can do. :(
[02:59] <[ifr0g] > hi..
[02:59] <Bigleon2> it was working fine ealier and this after everything i-net has been going to hell in a hand basket idk why
[03:00] <tekstacy> get a 6-pack and bribe a comp student to look at it
[03:00] <ScorpKing> cheers everyone!
[03:00] <tekstacy> ScorpKing, G'night
[03:00] <tekstacy> :(
[03:01] <Bigleon2> is it possible that it's konversations falt?
[03:02] <Bigleon2> gah
[03:02] <Bigleon2> *check 1-2*
[03:02] <Bigleon2> brb
[03:02] <tekstacy> I can't explain this but XP running under virtualbox on Kubuntu 7.04 seems to run better then when it was the main OS
[03:03] <DaSkreech> tekstacy: it's the fisherprice close buttons I'm telling you!!!
[03:04] <tekstacy> I'm glad I made it work, I missed the dancing paperclip.....
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> tekstacy better filesystem under neeth. :)
[03:05] <tekstacy> Whatever it is, I'll take it...
[03:10] <tekstacy> Um, what is the hot-key to switch desktops?
[03:10] <Dr_Willis> i alwyas use the mouse wheel. :)
[03:10] <Jucato> tekstacy: Ctrl+F1 to F4, or Ctrl+Tab, but this last one is disabled in Kubuntu (don't know why)
[03:11] <thomas1> OK I installed proftpd on my computer but I'm having trouble starting to run it
[03:11] <DaSkreech> tekstacy: install vigor
[03:11] <tekstacy> Col, thx. I'm usually too cluttered to use the wheel
[03:11] <tekstacy> What does it do?
[03:11] <DaSkreech> Jucato: d00d!
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> switchges desktop. :)
[03:12] <Jucato> !info vigor
[03:12] <Ubotu> vigor: nvi with the evil paperclip. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.016-8 (feisty), package size 261 kB, installed size 680 kB
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> it may need to be enabled.
[03:12] <Jucato> DaSkreech: k00d!
[03:12] <tekstacy> YES!
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> vigor = from the 'user friendly' comic strip. :)
[03:13] <tekstacy> Bigleon, try stealing someone else's wireless. Their connection may be better.
[03:14] <thomas1> OK I installed proftpd on my computer but I'm having trouble starting to run it
[03:14] <DaSkreech> tekstacy: he only gets kicked from oknversation
[03:14] <DaSkreech> kon
[03:14] <Bigleon2> 
[03:15] <tekstacy> oh
[03:15] <tekstacy> Well, I still reccomend steal someone else's internet. He's a collge kid, that's what they do
[03:15] <thomas1> does anyone know what "proftpd" is?
[03:16] <Dr_Willis> a ftp client.
[03:16] <Dr_Willis> oops server. :)
[03:16] <dangaio> thomas, it's the pro ftp daemon.
[03:16] <Dr_Willis> :P
[03:16] <thomas1> yea ok lol I installed it but I don't know how to START IT or where I installed the documentation
[03:16] <Dr_Willis> find its homepage?
[03:16] <Dr_Willis> it proberly has a entry in the /etc/init.d/ dirs.. for starting
[03:16] <DaSkreech> thomas1: probably started already
[03:17] <thomas1> Dr_Willis: it just installed through adept installer, but how do I know where it goes? or where the documentation installeD?
[03:17] <flaccid> thomas1: google is only a step away
[03:17] <Dr_Willis> all docs are normally in /usr/share/doc (i think)
[03:17] <Dr_Willis> use the package manager and LOOK at teh files in the package. :)
[03:17] <BluesKaj> konversation has his name registered under a different password, hence the constant kicking
[03:17] <Jucato> so why not change the password?
[03:17] <Dr_Willis> package details. or somthing like that. :)
[03:17] <BluesKaj> nickserv on konversation that is
[03:17] <thomas1> Dr_Willis: hmmm ok
[03:18] <Doctor_Nick> no
[03:18] <Dr_Willis> man proftpd   for a start also.
[03:18] <dangaio> thomas1, you can also type whereis proftpd and it should tell you where the file is located, and any variations of the filename.
[03:18] <BluesKaj> once one loses aconnect without the part or quit command it's very difficult to get back on freenode in konversation
[03:18] <Bigleon2> going to go cccrrrazy -.-
[03:19] <thomas1> dangaio: wow cool let me try
[03:20] <DaSkreech> Bigleon2: change your password
[03:21] <Bigleon2> it's very hard to get on it period...
[03:21] <Jucato> Bigleon2: you are identifying to a wrong password? is that why you're being disconnected?
[03:22] <Dr_Willis> manually identify real fast. :)
[03:22] <Bigleon2> daskreech why am i changing my password? I can't even stay connected
[03:22] <DaSkreech> Bigleon2: that mmight be what's kicking you
[03:22] <Bigleon2> no, this account isn't even registered
[03:22] <Dr_Willis> Try connecting with a different Nickname. :)
[03:22] <DaSkreech> according to Dr_Willis
[03:22] <Dr_Willis> oh there goes that logic.
[03:22] <Jucato>  <BluesKaj> konversation has his name registered under a different password, hence the constant kicking
[03:23] <mneptok> thomas1: why FTP?
[03:23] <Bigleon2> this is actually running on another comp on live cd
[03:23] <mneptok> thomas1: SFTP is far easier, and far more secure.
[03:23] <dangaio> got to go. I am about to take an Introduction to Unix final test.
[03:23] <dangaio> I hate that class.
[03:23] <thomas1> mneptok: All I wanted to do is get a way to connect to my computer remotely on windows machines
[03:23] <mneptok> thomas1: SFTP
[03:23] <thomas1> mneptok: or download files
[03:24] <thomas1> mneptok: whats wrong with ftp
[03:24] <mneptok> thomas1: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[03:24] <Bigleon2> i'm sooo irritated with linux today
[03:24] <mneptok> thomas1: it's a cleartext protocol?
[03:24] <thomas1> mneptok: dont' know what that is
[03:24] <mneptok> thomas1: it's Very Bad(tm)
[03:24] <mneptok> thomas1: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[03:25] <thomas1> secure shell
[03:25] <thomas1> right?
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> ftp should be put to rest. :)
[03:25] <mneptok> then use Filezilla on Windows to connect
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> long live ssh
[03:25] <mneptok> thomas1: correct
[03:25] <_2> thomas1: sudo apt-get install ssh
[03:25] <mneptok> _2: no.
[03:25] <thomas1> mneptok: but ssh still uses ftp
[03:25] <mneptok> thomas1: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> !info ssh
[03:25] <Ubotu> ssh: Secure shell client and server (transitional package). In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.3p2-8ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1 kB, installed size 32 kB
[03:25] <thomas1> ssh is just a program thingy right
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> !ssh
[03:25] <Ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[03:25] <_2> mneptok ?
[03:26] <mneptok> thomas1: FTP and SFTP are related only in name
[03:26] <Dr_Willis> isent EVEYRTHING  'just a program thinggy' ?
[03:26] <thomas1> Dr_Willis: lol you
[03:26] <mneptok> _2: openssh-server is the correct package :)
[03:26] <_2> mneptok ssh is a meta package that depends on openssh-server openssh-client
[03:26] <Dr_Willis> i always install the 'ssh' package.. since i want both. :)
[03:26] <_2> me too
[03:27] <mneptok> _2: and there's no reason for a metapackage. openssh-server is all he needs.
[03:27] <thomas1> mneptok: should I install the package? and the main reason to get sftp is that ftp is bad security?
[03:27] <_2> updates are a good reason for the meta package
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> unless he wants to ssh in, then ssh out...
[03:27] <_2> mneptok ^
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> then ssh back.. in a loop! :)
[03:27] <mneptok> _2: the client is installed by default
[03:28] <mneptok> _2: the server is not.
[03:28] <_2> mneptok and ?
[03:28] <Bigleon2> question, how do i get kopete to show my cam to msn/yim users?
[03:28] <mneptok> _2: the "ssh" package installs only openssh-server on a default install.
[03:28] <thomas1> mneptok: sftp > ftp because more security only??????????
[03:29] <mneptok> _2: so it's better ro point users to the package they actually need. rather than a metapackage with 50% redudnat contents.
[03:29] <_2> mneptok ok by your logic,  we should never sujest to anyone that they install *buntu-desktop   cause it's only a meta package
[03:29] <Dr_Willis> ssh can do so many neat tricks.. its amazing.
[03:29] <mneptok> *redundant
[03:29] <mneptok> _2: that's rediuctio ad absurdum
[03:29] <mneptok> -i
[03:29] <_2> mneptok that's enough.   i'm finished arguing with you.   thanks.
[03:30] <thomas1> mneptok: so i already installed proftpd through package manager, HOW DO I KNOW IF ITS RUNNING?!!?!
[03:30] <Dr_Willis> thomas1 try to ftp in?
[03:31] <Dr_Willis> ftp localhost
[03:31] <mneptok> ps aux ?
[03:31] <mneptok> telnet localhost 21 ?
[03:32] <mneptok> (hint: if you don't know how to use ps, you should not be running public-facing servers) ;)
[03:33] <thomas1> Dr_Willis: I don't think it will connect
[03:33] <thomas1> mneptok: so I should uninstall proftpd?
[03:33] <mneptok> thomas1: personally, i would
[03:33] <thomas1> mneptok: roger
[03:34] <mneptok> thomas1: you're much better off with SFTP
[03:34] <mneptok> it Just Works. and offers far better security.
[03:34] <_2> thomas1 or configure it to only allow lan connections
[03:34] <thomas1> mneptok: ok I will have to find out soon, and if I'm not pleased, I"m coming back and bitch to you :D
[03:34] <thomas1> mneptok: lol i'm kidding thanks guys, off to work I go
[03:34] <mneptok> thomas1: Filezilla on Windows will connect via SFTP
[03:35] <thomas1> mneptok: wtf filezilla lol
[03:35] <mneptok> what Windows FTP client do you use?
[03:35] <_2> heh  windows
[03:35] <thomas1> mneptok: i need a client on a comp? or I can't use browser/command prompt?
[03:35] <DaSkreech> thomas1: What do you use to connect via sftp on windows ?
[03:35] <mneptok> thomas1: say ProFTPd was morking. what would you use on Windows to connect?
[03:35] <mneptok> *working
[03:35] <thomas1> DaSkreech: i would like to connect from anyones machine
[03:36] <DaSkreech> run a web server
[03:36] <Dr_Willis> i like winscp
[03:36] <thomas1> mneptok: I would like to use something easily accessible at anyones home computer
[03:36] <DaSkreech> With a password
[03:36] <Dr_Willis> :)
[03:36] <thomas1> DaSkreech: yea
[03:37] <_2> thomas1 ssh
[03:37] <Dr_Willis> i use ssh + winscp for my windows box's to let them get stuff off the linxu boxs
[03:37] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[03:37] <thomas1> Dr_Willis:
[03:37] <thomas1> Dr_Willis: why don't u just do it through ur hard drive
[03:38] <mneptok> thomas1: keep the Filezilla installer on a flash drive.
[03:38] <mneptok> http://filezilla.sf.net
[03:39] <_2> or maybe he's not a mozilla fan...
[03:39] <thomas1> mneptok: sigh........
[03:39] <thomas1> mneptok: isn't it easier to use browser/command prompt
[03:39] <mneptok> thomas1: most browsers don't do SFTP
[03:40] <mneptok> thomas1: and Windows' idea of CLI tools is laughable
[03:40] <Flatfender> I'm having a problem with a flash drive. When I plug the drive it Kubuntu doesn't detect it?
[03:40] <mneptok> Flatfender: FAT32?
[03:40] <DaSkreech> mneptok: it ships with pretty good tools
[03:40] <mneptok> DaSkreech: what's the SCP/SFTP client?
[03:40] <bob1nz> hey im having a bit of trouble tuning my tv tuner card  through myth tv in linux mce
[03:40] <Flatfender> I don't know what it is. I didn't realize that I even had used it before
[03:40] <sea4ever> restart the PC with the flash drive in
[03:41] <Bigleon2> ummm so i just royally fudged up kopete when one of prtocols like crashed it... umm how can i uninstall it so i can reinstall
[03:41] <tekstacy> Goodnight all
[03:41] <Flatfender> Should I plug it into a Windows box and format to ntfs or something?
[03:41] <sea4ever> no, jsut restart,
[03:41] <thomas1> mneptok: do you see my point though.....I wanna go to a strangers house and be able to access it easily....can't I do it through browser or command promopt?
[03:42] <mneptok> thomas1: what's the SCP/SFTP client?
[03:42] <thomas1> huh
[03:42] <thomas1> mneptok: ?
[03:43] <mneptok> thomas1: you want it to be easy. you probably also don't want Ivan Guyrsheykenko from the Ukrainian mob to connect. pick one.
[03:43] <mneptok> thomas1: "I want to be able to click once with my mouse and it does everything but magically it should not let bad people do anything."
[03:43] <mneptok> ^^ Windows thinking ^^
[03:44] <mneptok> so, what's the greater concern? ease of use or security?
[03:44] <thomas1> mneptok: YEA GO WINDOWS! WINDOWS RULES!
[03:44] <thomas1> mneptok: so I have to carry a memory stick with me
[03:45] <thomas1> mneptok: and install a program every time on someones computer?
[03:45] <mneptok> thomas1: or download and install an SFTP client when you need one.
[03:45] <Flatfender> mneptok, it doesn't seem to matter if its NTFS FAT or FAT 32, I can't find it
[03:45] <mneptok> thomas1: Ubuntu can connect to SFTP servers with built in tools. Windows cannot.
[03:45] <thomas1> mneptok: right so indeedy i would need to install software on someones comp
[03:45] <thomas1> mneptok: windows sucks?
[03:46] <DaSkreech> Bigleon2: Which one crashed?
[03:46] <mneptok> thomas1: that's far less risky than putting all your data behind a cleartext password.
[03:46] <thomas1> i guess
[03:46] <thomas1> mneptok: i have to read up on cleartext cause I have no idea what that is
[03:47] <mneptok> IRC is cleartext
[03:47] <mneptok> this is my text
[03:47] <thomas1> mneptok: OMFG!
[03:47] <DaSkreech> thomas1: that means I can see your password from anywhere on the internet
[03:47] <mneptok> 75he97ghidh iudp8d54bbibe987 bid8,.p745dbib eh8957fgr83brteuh i83f4dy
[03:47] <mneptok> ^^ "this is my text" encrypted ^^^
[03:47] <Bigleon2> meh my kopete on my main machien crashed, idk how to fix it, if try and uninstall it, it wnats me to uninstall my entire desktop -.-
[03:47] <DaSkreech> mneptok: that's still yourtext? :0
[03:47] <thomas1> DaSkreech: dont crash my systemm please
[03:47] <Bigleon2> i changed something and this "sigabrt" idk keeps crashing kopete
[03:47] <DaSkreech> Bigleon2: it wants to uninstall kubuntu-desktop
[03:48] <DaSkreech> Bigleon2: there is a difference
[03:48] <DaSkreech> Bigleon2: which one crashes it?
[03:48] <thomas1> DaSkreech: but My computer is super encrypted so noone can see my passwords
[03:48] <Bigleon2> which one crashes what?
[03:48] <Flatfender> Any ideas how to get my flash drive to work? I need it to install wireless drivers on another desktop computer?
[03:48] <DaSkreech> Bigleon2: Which protocol crashes kopete
[03:48] <mneptok> thomas1: your computer is nto The Internet
[03:48] <mneptok> *not
[03:48] <Biovore> thomas1: what kind of encryption?
[03:48] <DaSkreech> thomas1: are you using ftp ?
[03:48] <Bigleon2> It's not a protocol, i was changing the "input" text method
[03:48] <Bigleon2> and then it crashed
[03:49] <thomas1> DaSkreech: no i'm using my own encryption for downloading stuff off my computer
[03:49] <thomas1> DaSkreech: its relatively safe
[03:49] <mneptok> thomas1: imagine this. your at Aunt Lucy's house. you want to connect to your home machine.
[03:49] <thomas1> mneptok: lmao i like the start of this story
[03:49] <mneptok> thomas1: you connect. it FHP asks for a username and password.
[03:49] <mneptok> *FTP
[03:49] <mneptok> you enter thomas1:myp4ss
[03:50] <thomas1> mneptok: how did u know i use that username and password? did u hack into me?
[03:50] <mneptok> and over the public Internet goes the string of clear, readable toxt "thomas1:myp4ss"
[03:50] <thomas1> mneptok: whats toxt? lol kidding.....let me ask you this for fun. Do you know how to read this clear text :D?
[03:50] <Bigleon2> i'm ready to beat my head bloody on my desk.... gah linux!
[03:50] <mneptok> *anyone* between your Aunt Lucy's and your modem can read that right off the wire.
[03:51] <Biovore> ftp over tls if your doing ftp..
[03:51] <mneptok> thomas1: and then your computer is not yours any more.
[03:51] <Biovore> or sftp
[03:51] <thomas1> mneptok: refer to my previous post
[03:51] <Biovore> ftp is like screaming the user and pass though a crowded room..
[03:51] <Flatfender> OK, I think it is showing up with my external hard drive name, under properties it only shows it as 2gb, which is what the disk is. Is there a way to format that disk?
[03:51] <mneptok> thomas1: there was content in it?
[03:52] <thomas1> Biovore: cmon man could u read my ftp info? cmon now really
[03:52] <mneptok> thomas1: yes
[03:52] <thomas1> mneptok: whats toxt? lol kidding.....let me ask you this for fun. Do you know how to read this?
[03:52] <Biovore> I can't.. but some one can..
[03:52] <mneptok> thomas1: easily.
[03:52] <DaSkreech> thomas1: listen to me
[03:52] <DaSkreech> Y
[03:52] <DaSkreech> E
[03:52] <DaSkreech> S
[03:52] <Biovore> any packet sniffer will pick it up...
[03:52] <DaSkreech> it says pw
[03:52] <DaSkreech> then your password
[03:52] <DaSkreech>  exactly as you typed it
[03:52] <Bigleon2> DaSkreech you say anything i just suffered a 2.3 minute lag spike
[03:52] <Biovore> run wireshare while you log into a ftp server.. then look at the contents of the packets.. there in pain sight..
[03:53] <DaSkreech> I got like 25 passwords for my university's accounts server by just looking at the network
[03:53] <thomas1> DaSkreech: lmao screech. wow
[03:53] <thomas1> DaSkreech: coooool
[03:53] <DaSkreech> It's not cool
[03:53] <DaSkreech> it's stupid
[03:53] <Biovore> DaSkreech: hehe..
[03:53] <Biovore> yeah..
[03:53] <DaSkreech>  do not use ftp
[03:53] <thomas1> DaSkreech: ok i trust you fully
[03:53] <Biovore> sftp
[03:53] <Bigleon2> Thats it after this download finishes, dear Mr computer is getting the Dban
[03:53] <DaSkreech> Bigleon2: which one crashes kopete
[03:53] <Biovore> or scp is the best
[03:54] <Bigleon2> It's not like a prtocol, it's like i changed the "input" text method or something and then it crashed
[03:54] <Biovore> thomas1: winscp for windows works good on the windows side of ssh systems
[03:54] <thomas1> wow I learned a lot
[03:54] <thomas1> so FTP sucks
[03:55] <hydrogen> wow..
[03:55] <hydrogen> is this package for real?
[03:55] <thomas1> but ITS USED SSSSOOO MUCH
[03:55] <DaSkreech> Bigleon2: So just change it before you sign in
[03:55] <hydrogen> sl - Correct you if you type `sl' by mistake
[03:55] <DaSkreech> thomas1: yes but you know better know
[03:55] <thomas1> DaSkreech: ook thank you for informative stuff
[03:56] <thomas1> DaSkreech: still gotta read up and buy myself a little memory stick i guess right :S?
[03:56] <DaSkreech> thomas1: That's like .. I don't know .. half the battle or something
[03:56] <thomas1> DaSkreech: half the battle?
[03:56] <DaSkreech> thomas1: you can run a webserver and self sign a cert and be way better than ftp and still easily compliant
[03:56] <thomas1> DaSkreech: u mean for security
[03:57] <thomas1> DaSkreech: wow
[03:57] <DaSkreech> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knowing_is_half_the_battle
[03:57] <Bigleon2> DaSkreech the program will not even start
[03:57] <DaSkreech> Bigleon2: run it from command line and see what it says
[03:57] <Bigleon2> how do i run it from command line?
[03:58] <mneptok> thomas1: surprisingly, even though Toyotas are used SOOOOOO MUCH, the Ferarri is a superior vehicle.
[03:58] <DaSkreech> Bigleon2: though if you just wanna get it started you can jsut move your .kopete config
[03:58] <Bigleon2> how do i do that -.-!
[03:58] <Bigleon2> gah i'm linux retarded remeber
[03:59] <thomas1> mneptok: yea i get ur point
[03:59] <DaSkreech> Bigleon2: oh right. .kde/share/apps/kopete
[03:59] <DaSkreech> Bigleon2: from your home folder
[03:59] <DaSkreech> just move the kopete app to something else
[04:00] <DaSkreech> kopete directory >_<
[04:00] <mneptok> Bigleon2: rm -rf ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete
[04:00] <ardchoille> DaSkreech: Wouldn't it be the ~/.kde/share/config/kopeterc file?
[04:00] <mneptok> Bigleon2: then restart Kopete
[04:00] <thomas1> mneptok: i queried u
[04:00] <mneptok> thomas1: and i ignored it
[04:00] <thomas1> mneptok: o how come?
[04:01] <thomas1> mneptok: alright sorry
[04:01] <mneptok> thomas1: because everybody and their uncle PMs me from #*ubuntu* channels? ;)
[04:01] <Flatfender> It tells me that access is denied on my flash drive. I need to copy files to it but it wont let me
[04:02] <thomas1> mneptok: why do they pm u?
[04:02] <ardchoille> Flatfender: use sudo?
[04:02] <mneptok> Flatfender: sounds like the drive might be formatted as NTFS
[04:02] <mneptok> thomas1: /whois mneptok
[04:03] <Flatfender> I just formated it to ext3
[04:03] <DaSkreech> ardchoille: maybe
[04:03] <DaSkreech> Bigleon2: gone again?
[04:03] <thomas1> mneptok: your in kubuntu support
[04:03] <Bigleon2> alright i'm at ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete
[04:03] <DaSkreech> Bigleon2: just rename that folder
[04:03] <mneptok> thomas1: Ubuntu and Kubuntu both
[04:03] <Bigleon2> well when i rightclicked the folder Konqueror crashed
[04:04] <mneptok> Flatfender: df -h and pastebin the result, please
[04:04] <thomas1> mneptok: the reason was because I like having smart people to talk with :D
[04:04] <Bigleon2> my computer hates me T_T
[04:04] <DaSkreech> Bigleon2: Wow this is on your desktop?
[04:04] <mneptok> thomas1: then i'm a poor choice
[04:04] <thomas1> mneptok: ..
[04:04] <Bigleon2> yeah
[04:04] <mneptok> Bigleon2: did you play with chmod or chown by any chance?
[04:04] <Bigleon2> nope
[04:05] <mneptok> Bigleon2: open Konsole
[04:05] <Bigleon2> i haven't had time to play around the thing has been fucking up 24'7
[04:05] <Bigleon2> already open
[04:05] <DaSkreech> Bigleon2: Want to do a geeky purge and reinstall ?
[04:05] <darlok> Wow... language, please?
[04:05] <mneptok> Bigleon2: mv ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete ./
[04:05] <DaSkreech> darlok: which language ?
[04:05] <Bigleon2> well atm i'm on my last 30pct of my 7.04 dl
[04:05] <Flatfender> mneptok all it says is: Access denied to /media/sda1/ndiswrapper-common_1.38-1ubuntu1_all.deb
[04:05] <darlok> DaSkreech: Bigleon2...
[04:06] <thomas1> does IRC log every convo after exit?
[04:06] <mneptok> Flatfender: df -h and pastebin the result, please
[04:06] <darlok> thomas1: Depends on whether or not you have the client setup to do so.
[04:06] <DaSkreech> darlok: Oh good call
[04:06] <_2> thomas1 that's client dependant.
[04:06] <DaSkreech> !language | Bigleon2
[04:06] <Ubotu> Bigleon2: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:06] <Bigleon2> my apologies...
[04:06] <_2> thomas1 and also tunable
[04:07] <darlok> thomas1: I believe Konversation has loggin enabled automatically.  It will be in ~/logs
[04:07] <Flatfender> http://pastebin.com/mc4bb79b
[04:07] <Bigleon2> when i tried to start up kopete aftering doing what you said mneptok, i got this "Crash handler" blabbing about SIGABRT
[04:07] <thomas1> _2: yea I think it is but not sure...settings - conversations - loggin- and enable logging is marked
[04:08] <thomas1> darlok: k thats good ty
[04:08] <mneptok> Bigleon2: i think your issues are deeper than Kopete
[04:08] <_2> thomas1 then it should be keeping a log file.   and  'no' it is a "running log" not a "end program dump".
[04:09] <Bigleon2> Yeah, well i did something in kopete when it crashed
[04:09] <Bigleon2> i right clicked text field, and chose a different "input" style
[04:12] <Bigleon2> gotta brb and grab laundry
[04:12] <mauro_> !kde4
[04:12] <Ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php
[04:15] <mneptok> gah
[04:15] <mneptok> missed 'im
[04:15] <Bigleon2> 
[04:17] <Bigleon2> alright you send somemthing i dc'ed
[04:18] <Bigleon2> kopete is still crashing
[04:18] <Bigleon2> gonna watch a movie
[04:21] <DaSkreech> Bigleon2: download irssi
[04:23] <synteth> hi
[04:24] <synteth> good night, is anyway possible to see any wireless networks using the konsole?
[04:24] <DaSkreech> synteth: iwlist <wirelesslan> scan
[04:24] <DaSkreech> though I think that iwlist scan might work as well
[04:26] <synteth> DaSkreech: but that just gives me information about the wireless i'm using
[04:26] <DaSkreech> iwlist <device> scan ?
[04:28] <synteth> i'm sorry about this, that can be called a dumb question, what do you mean with device?
[04:28] <synteth> DaSkreech: eth1?
[04:29] <user704> wow
[04:29] <user704> lots of ppl here
[04:30] <DaSkreech_> synteth: if that's your wireless devce
[04:31] <synteth> DaSkreech_: ohh so, yes i can only seem to see my current wireless info
[04:31] <DaSkreech_> ok
[04:32] <synteth> it there any other way=
[04:32] <DaSkreech_> sorry I just learnt that one
[04:33] <DaSkreech_> :)
[04:33] <synteth> ohh, ok thanks, it's a nice tip by the way
[04:33] <synteth> :p
[04:34] <DaSkreech_> iwlist --help
[04:36] <synteth> i've tried iwlist freq
[04:47] <gicci> Hi folks
[04:49] <DaSkreech> hi
[04:49] <jhutchins> iwlist wlan0 scanning
[04:49] <jhutchins> w/sudo of course
[04:50] <BluesKaj> sacktime folks ...take care
[04:51] <synteth_> jhutchins: sorry that's a command for what?
[04:51] <jhutchins> synteth_: Yeah.  sudo iwlist wlan0 scanning, or whatever your card is instead of wlan0
[04:51] <jhutchins> should list all detected AP's.
[04:52] <synteth_> i've tried iwlist eth2 scan
[04:52] <synteth_> wlan0     Interface doesn't support scanning.
[04:53] <jhutchins> synteth_: iwconfig will show which device is your wireless.
[04:53] <jhutchins> scan/scanning shows the available AP's.
[04:54] <synteth_> jhutchins: he only shows me my home wireless network
[04:56] <jago> i get an error from my monitor during login and can not see my screen the error is "OUT OF RANGE" how can i fix this.
[05:01] <jago> "i get an error from my monitor during login and can not see my screen the error is "OUT OF RANGE" how can i fix this." i was told that this is probably an xorg settins issue an to check back here. any help would be appretiated
[05:06] <jago_> "i get an error from my monitor during login and can not see my screen the error is "OUT OF RANGE" how can i fix this." i was told that this is probably an xorg settins issue an to check back here. any help would be appretiated
[05:28] <thomas__> i'm trying to install openssh-server and its stuck on waiting for headers
[05:28] <soulrider> !restricted
[05:28] <Ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:29] <thomas__> yea there was an error it wouldn't download the package
[05:32] <aparra> sdfgsdgs
[05:34] <thomas__> i'm trying to install openssh-server and its stuck on waiting for headers
[05:37] <thomas__> anyone ther?
[05:41] <mneptok> thomas__: still stuck?
[05:42] <thomas__> mneptok: yes
[05:42] <thomas__> mneptok: i tried multiple times and it timed out
[05:42] <mneptok> thomas__: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[05:42] <mneptok> ^^ try that ^^
[05:43] <thomas__> k i think i tried update
[05:43] <thomas__> and it didn't work but i'll try again
[05:44] <thomas__> mneptok: are you sure you typed it correctly
[05:44] <mneptok> yes
[05:45] <thomas__> mneptok: yep its stalling again on 1 update at 99%
[05:45] <thomas__> mneptok: wine update
[05:46] <mneptok> so comment out that repository
[05:46] <mneptok> or did you (Christ on His throne forbid it) use Automatix?
[05:57] <newsense> !windows
[05:57] <Ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[05:57] <newsense> lmao
[05:58] <thomas__> mneptok: i don't know what to do
[05:59] <mneptok> comment out that repository
[06:00] <mneptok> if you used Automatix or EasyUbuntu, backup, reformat, reinstall.
[06:06] <thomas__> mneptok: u there?
[06:06] <thomas__> I can't seem to install openssh-server in adept manager
[06:12] <josh> why cant i get updates?
[06:12] <josh> im trying to install vlc
[06:12] <josh> so i can watch a movie on this laptop in bed
[06:12] <josh> and not even updates are working
[06:13] <thomas__> josh: i can't get updates working either
[06:13] <josh> i tried apt-get to and it doesnt work
[06:13] <josh> gheyness
[06:13] <thomas__> i'll try tomorrow
[06:13] <thomas__> maybe tomorrow it'll work
[06:14] <daedalus__> hello
[06:15] <daedalus__> im having trouble installing libairware
[06:15] <newsense07> anyone know if freenode offers a hostmask for registered users ?, looked but maybe not hard enough
[06:15] <daedalus__> when i execute the make and make install commands i get the following error, this is the first line
[06:16] <daedalus__> g++ -I./include -O3 -fno-strict-aliasing  -c ./src/pcap-packet.cpp -o pcap-packet.o
[06:16] <daedalus__> any idea what could be causing this error?
[06:16] <daedalus__> ./include/datatypes.h:4:18: error: pcap.h: No such file or directory
[06:20] <LaserJock> anybody know how to tell strigi what to index or what not to index?
[06:21] <pillowpants> is there a shell command that lists all the installed programs?
[06:21] <pillowpants> i just installed some x games, and i forgot which
[06:21] <LaserJock> pillowpants: dpkg -l
[06:22] <pillowpants> thanks
[06:22] <daedalus__> no help about the error?
[06:26] <hydrogen> \wow
[06:27] <hydrogen> that article in the !windows factoid is pretty much not that logical
[06:27] <hydrogen> direct quote: "Well, you might be able to make a case for KDE being commercial, since it's Qt-based."
[06:37] <level1> hi, my keyboard shortcuts keep breaking... like, they'll work when I first log into kde, but after a while they just stop working
[06:38] <ubunturos> Is i-ball camera supported in KUbuntu 6.06>
[06:38] <level1> theses are the shortcuts to kmix, and to start applications from the keyboard
[06:38] <ubunturos> ?
[06:38] <level1> amarok global shortcuts still work for some reason
[06:39] <level1> ubunturos: sometimes theres no way to be sure... do you already own that particular model, or are you considering it?
[06:39] <ubunturos> level1: considering Logitech camers.
[06:39] <ubunturos> level1: have found compatible ones.
[06:39] <level1> if you already own it, you might as well just try it... but I don't recomend buying it until you can be sure (unless you have a lot of money to throw around)
[06:39] <dranas> ellos
[06:39] <ubunturos> level1: :)
[06:40] <ubunturos> level1: however, if there are other cheaper ones (samsung / creative) would they be compatible?
[06:40] <dranas> anyone know how to stop kompmgr from starting automatically?
[06:40] <level1> I haven't found a site that reliable tells me this stuff, but I'm told they exsist, so you might try google for stuff like "linux hardware compatability"
[06:41] <level1> dranas: it should be in the window behaivor part of systemsettings
[06:41] <dranas> let me check
[06:41] <level1> under translucency
[06:41] <level1> kompmgr is kde composite, right?
[06:41] <ubunturos> level1: I have found ones that are compatible with Ubuntu - on Ubuntu wiki
[06:41] <dranas> i think
[06:42] <level1> I'm a fan of kde composite... it will be greatly improved in kde 4
[06:42] <ubunturos> level1: the only issue is, just in case the shop doesn't stock the exact model, are there samsung / creative webcams that are compatible? (if anyone has used them; logged on)?
[06:42] <level1> ubunturos: well, go for the sure thing, if you can.  I don't want you to waste money.
[06:42] <ubunturos> level1: umm, yes.
[06:43] <dranas> i made my desktop look like mac os x and well....the tranlucency is not working and blowing up and im tired of hearing the breaking glass sound everytime i login
[06:43] <dranas> im gonna be scared to upgrade to kde 4 cause i worked my butt off to make this thingie look like mac os x
[06:44] <level1> dranas: yeah, you might as well turn it off then.
[06:44] <dranas> just casaid i couldntuse this guy
[06:44] <dranas> evil mpouse
[06:44] <dranas> some guy said i couldnt m ake this linux look like mac os x
[06:44] <dranas> so i had to prove him wrong
[06:44] <level1> dranas: well, the kde 4 that I use on my computer looks fairly macy and I'm sure can configure it just as well
[06:45] <dranas> is kde 4 in its stable release yet?
[06:45] <level1> lol, this is computers.  You can do anything, just not always easily, very well, very fast, or very reliably.
[06:45] <level1> dranas: nah, not until december they're talking
[06:45] <level1> but it'll be great when it comes out
[06:45] <dranas> ill wait till then, my wife uses the comp too
[06:46] <level1> you can run kde 3 and kde 4 simultaniously, if your curious... its mostly harmless
[06:46] <dranas> you ever use baghira?
[06:46] <dranas> nah, id break something
[06:46] <level1> I prefer domino myself... smooth scrolling ftw
[06:47] <dranas> how about that bab thingie
[06:47] <dranas> its kinda annoying me
[06:48] <dranas> well see if the disableing of said transparencies worked after my dvd is done encoding?
[06:48] <kvnet> hi 2 all
[06:49] <dranas> ello
[06:49] <kvnet> how can i rescue files, if my sistem is tottaly broken? :|
[06:49] <dranas> magic....nah i dont know
[06:50] <dranas> ooo how did you break it? maybe you can fix it from konsole
[06:50] <kvnet> no :( cuz i have no console
[06:50] <kvnet> only disk error
[06:51] <kvnet> and i cant load my kubuntu -_-
[06:52] <dranas> o
[06:52] <dranas> disk error
[06:52] <dranas> doesnt sound like compiz fusion problem
[06:53] <kvnet> it appeared after installing compiz and reboot
[06:53] <dranas> i could see it if the x server wont start but
[06:53] <dranas> hmmm
[06:53] <dranas> strange
[06:53] <dranas> really
[06:53] <dranas> im actually using fedora 7
[06:53] <dranas> for some reason, my kubuntu freaked out
[06:53] <dranas> and like....stopped working for me
[06:54] <dranas> but i liked it when it was working
[06:54] <dranas> lol
[06:56] <dranas> good night everyone thanks for your help
[06:56] <dranas> ill let you know if it worked
[06:57] <pillowpants> where is the sources.list located?
[06:57] <kvnet> /etc/?
[06:58] <pillowpants> so /etc/sources.list?
[06:58] <tazgodx> is there a setting to get konversation to autoidentify?
[06:58] <kvnet> etc/apt/sources.list
[06:59] <pillowpants> kvnet: thanks
[07:02] <kvnet> who knows some sites, where i can download widgets for KDE?
[07:04] <tazgodx> don't konw how i did it, but i got it to work
[07:07] <kkathman> kvnet:  kde-look.org
[07:08] <paulo> hi any one there
[07:08] <kkathman> yep
[07:08] <kkathman> well, at least I am :)
[07:09] <paulo> I was trying to compile a C++ program and I got this message /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.1.2/../../../../include/c++/4.1.2/cstdlib:135: error: ::system has not been declared
[07:09] <paulo> do you know anything about it
[07:09] <kkathman> looks like a bad package or bad source
[07:09] <kkathman> but I dunno
[07:10] <kkathman> i dont do much compiling
[07:10] <kvnet> want compiling - come to gentoo :)
[07:11] <kvnet> i tried it, but my windows-friendly toshiba cant work properly with other distros
[07:11] <paulo> I have been able to compile and run programs on the same machine but now Im geting an error msg
[07:17] <bob1nz> hey i need some help with a tv tuner card?
[07:17] <Daisuke_Ido> is it hauppauge? (that is probably not spelled right)
[07:18] <bob1nz> no its jst a cheapy from dick smith its gt a saa713x chip
[07:20] <bob1nz> all i gt thru myth is a black screen thats kynda staticy and it wont pick up any channels when i scan so i loaded them in manually from the info i got from the net the card works fine in windows
[07:21] <_phil_> hi
[07:21] <_phil_> i have kernel 2.6.22-11-generic installed and restricted-modules to the kernel. but unfortunately my wlan-interface will not be recognized from iwlist. what am i missing? it works with kernel 2.6.20-16.
[07:22] <pillowpants> !repositories
[07:22] <Ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:24] <evil-rhino> anyone know where i can find .debs of openoffice.org 2.3 (preferably rc3)?
[07:25] <_phil_> evil-rhino: dunno. you could make some for your self.
[07:25] <evil-rhino> this is a slow machine, and compiling it would take a very long time.
[07:26] <_phil_> on the oo-site the is only rc2 available. see http://download.openoffice.org/680/index.html?intcmp=1235
[07:27] <_phil_> i fear if you want a bleeding edge version of oo you need to compile it yourself.
[07:28] <evil-rhino> _phil_: rc2 is good enough, thanks!
[07:29] <bob1nz> hey phil
[07:29] <_phil_> hi bob1nz
[07:29] <evil-rhino> they fixed a really annoying issue in 2.3 -- previously if you worked in preview mode, the page would be left-aligned rather than centered like in word and abiword. i don't know why, but it drove me absolutely nuts on my wide screen monitor.
[07:30] <bob1nz> do you know much about tv cards?
[07:32] <_phil_> bob1nz: no i do not know much about tv cards.
[07:32] <bob1nz> ok jst thought id ask thanks
[07:33] <martalli> I know that picking a card that's compatible with linux is oretty darn hard
[07:34] <bob1nz> yeah i dnt wanna go buy a new one and iv seen ppl use the same chip as mine has bt i dnt know my way around linux too well
[07:35] <pillowpants> how do you watch encypted dvds?
[07:35] <pillowpants> im trying and its not giving in
[07:36] <holycow> dvdcss2
[07:36] <holycow> and vlc
[07:38] <pillowpants> holycow: ill give it a go
[07:38] <pillowpants> i screwed up my repositories, so i have to fix that first
[07:38] <jussi01> !dvd | pillowpants
[07:38] <Ubotu> pillowpants: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[07:38] <jussi01> !repo | pillowpants
[07:38] <Ubotu> pillowpants: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:39] <jussi01> !easysource
[07:39] <Ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:39] <jussi01> ahh, thats the one I wanted...
[07:39] <jussi01> pillowpants: hope that helps
[07:39] <pillowpants> source-o-matic has done me no good so far
[07:39] <pillowpants> ill check em
[07:39] <pillowpants> i may have just done it wrong
[07:39] <jussi01> hehe
[07:40] <jussi01> so anyone know a _basic_ sound recorder? I just need to record an interview im having with someone.
[07:41] <jussi01> with their permission of course... :P
[07:41] <kkathman> jussi01:  what about audacity?
[07:42] <holycow> apt-cache search record sound
[07:42] <jussi01> kkathman: yeah, could work. was hoping for something a little simpler
[07:42] <jussi01> holycow: yeah, however I was looking for recommendations
[07:42] <kkathman> jussi01:  well I dont wanna say this - but my wife uses it with her 5th graders :)
[07:43] <kkathman> lol
[07:43] <kkathman> I honestly have never used it, but  my wife does and she learned it pretty quick so she could make sound tracks for her ipods she was doing with her class
[07:44] <kkathman> so I dont know how easy or hard it is  :)
[07:44] <kkathman> it IS probably overkill for you
[07:44] <kkathman> but its free :
[07:45] <jussi01> true... what I was originally looking for is something like that basic sound recorder that comes with windiows....
[07:45] <hangthedj> like krec
[07:45] <hangthedj> ?
[07:46] <jussi01> !info krec
[07:46] <Ubotu> krec: sound recorder utility for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 352 kB, installed size 1056 kB
[07:46] <jussi01> ahhh... sounds good
[07:52] <lnx_> why when i install "nvidia-settings" its auto remove "nvidia-glx" ?
[07:54] <hangthedj> i think it uninstalls nvidia-glx and installs nvidia-something-new instead.
[07:55] <hangthedj> not completely sure though, i don't hang nvidia
[07:56] <LaserJock> anybody know what CD ripper works well in gutsy?
[07:57] <hangthedj> i like kaudiocreator
[08:01] <lnx_> hangthedj , it doesnt
[08:02] <hangthedj> it doesn't install nvidia-glx-new or nvidia-glx-legacy?
[08:03] <lnx_> hangthedj , i dont find anything in k menu ... maybe it install and dont create shortcut ?
[08:03] <paulc87> can someone show me a simple guide for upgrading 7.04 to 7.10 and upgrading to kde 4 beta also?
[08:04] <hangthedj> lnx_, are you using adept?
[08:04] <lnx_> hangthedj , yes
[08:04] <lnx_> hangthedj , i did sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[08:05] <hangthedj> with apt-get it should tell you what its installing and uninstalling before it does it.
[08:05] <hangthedj> so if you do nvidia-settings, it should say uninstalling nvidia-glx and installing nvidia-settings nvidia-glx-new etc..
[08:06] <lnx_> but it doesnt
[08:06] <holycow> why are kde panels like jello?
[08:06] <holycow> i mean gnome panels are terrible and re-arrange them selves on every reload
[08:06] <holycow> but adding icons to a kde panel is like throwing darts at random
[08:07] <holycow> you just never know where the damned icon will end up
[08:07] <holycow> and applets and things shift aroun dlike mad
[08:07] <holycow> very odd
[08:07] <hangthedj> sorry, i'm not sure then, like i said i don't have nvidia, well i do, but its an old server, really old nvidia 256k
[08:07] <hangthedj> i don't even have a gui on it.
[08:08] <hangthedj> so i don't know much about nvidia stuff
[08:08] <hangthedj> but usually if you were to install something that would remove a needed driver, it usually replaces it with another one.
[08:09] <hangthedj> cause if you don't have a nvidia driver how are you gonna use the nvidia-settings?
[08:09] <hangthedj> to configure the driver
[08:09] <lnx_> ok nvidia-glx is the same as the driver that you download from nvidia.com ?
[08:10] <elzbal> lnx_: Yes.
[08:10] <hangthedj> i just went to install nvidia-settings, and it said recommended packages: nvidia-glx :/
[08:10] <lnx_> ok i will try it
[08:10] <elzbal> For me, nvidia-settings was installed with nvidia-glx-new.
[08:11] <elzbal> And it may be installed with the nvidia-glx package too, but I'm not sure.
[08:11] <hangthedj> it just recomends it
[08:12] <lnx_> when i click "install" on nvidia-settings it automatic do "remove" on nvidia glx
[08:12] <elzbal> lnx_: Which kind of nvidia card do you have?
[08:12] <lnx_> geforce 5200 fx
[08:13] <elzbal> Then I'd suggest going for the "nvidia-glx-new" package instead.
[08:14] <lnx_> what is the difference ?
[08:15] <elzbal> Well, to be honest, I'm not sure I know all the differences... but -new is recommended for newer geforce cards, and (bonus) it includes the nvidia-settings app.
[08:16] <lnx_> elzbal , i have installed glx-new and i dont see any configure tools ?
[08:17] <elzbal> lnx_: Check to see if you can run "nvidia-settings" from the command line.
[08:18] <lnx_> yes it runs
[08:18] <elzbal> lnx_: Also, have you run "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" yet?
[08:19] <lnx_> i get this error : Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[08:20] <elzbal> That command attempts to update your xorg.conf. The error might mean that it can't recognise the contents. Have you done a lot of manual changes there?
[08:20] <lnx_> i didnt touch it at all
[08:21] <elzbal> hmm...
[08:21] <lnx_> i will restart kdm and i will see maybe it will be fixed
[08:21] <elzbal> maybe... good luck
[08:21] <elzbal> And maybe run that command while kdm/X is down.
[08:25] <dfrey> How do I change the konqueror mouse behaviour to double-click to open instead of single-click?
[08:27] <lnx_> i dont know i have no windows decoration in compiz i have tried kde , emerald , someone know what i can do ?
[08:32] <kayuuwi> hi, i have a Pentium III 800MHz 128MB RAM machine. Could any of you help me what version of kubuntu can run well?
[08:42] <Raspberry> wow, KDE is buggy as hell on Gutsy
[08:46] <kayuuwi>  hi, i have a Pentium III 800MHz 128MB RAM machine. Could any of you help me what version of kubuntu can run well?
[08:46] <kumamoto> kayuuwi: any version could run well have u tried feisty first
[08:47] <^MPS^> hi
[08:53] <baudthief> Is there any way to find out what is eating my ram? I'm running kubuntu feisty w/beryl - after boot I have ~600MB free. My system gradually starts to slow down and free RAM goes to zero
[08:53] <baudthief> I have to reboot to make my machine usable again
[08:53] <baudthief> ksysguard isn't too helpful :\
[08:54] <baudthief> gotta reboot on average twice a day - it only started doing this a few days ago
[08:56] <hangthedj> kayuuwi, i would go with xubuntu, really
[08:58] <Greencookie> Hi people:)
[08:59] <kayuuwi> hangthedj, thank you, but what xbuntu overs inplace of kubuntu?
[08:59] <SmileyRL> Hi kayuuwi
[08:59] <SmileyRL> Hi Greencookie
[08:59] <kayuuwi> hi u too SmileyRL
[09:00] <Greencookie> Hi SmileyRL :)
[09:00] <Greencookie> Wow I'm beginning to like linux:)
[09:00] <hangthedj> kayuuwi, xubuntu run xfce which is a smaller faster desktop system.
[09:00] <Greencookie> Finally got everything to work!
[09:00] <hangthedj> you could try fluxbuntu also, it uses fluxbox, which is pretty fast.
[09:01] <Greencookie> Can anyone tell me how I can find if I'm using a 32-bit or 64-bit version of Ubuntu/Kubuntu
[09:01] <Greencookie> I got an AMD 64 processor.
[09:01] <kayuuwi> hangthedj, can xubuntu run on Live CD
[09:01] <yendor> I have recently repaired my wireless connection on Kubuntu, I can access wifi & wired internet correctly but not my router on 192.168.1.254.... can you give me a hand to fix this please?
[09:01] <hangthedj> kayuuwi, yep.
[09:02] <hangthedj> !xubuntu
[09:02] <kkathman> Greencookie:  do a uname -a  at the cli
[09:02] <Ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[09:03] <Greencookie> Knock Knock.
[09:03] <kkathman> Greencookie:  see above
[09:03] <hangthedj> wake up neo?
[09:03] <hangthedj> follow the rabbit
[09:03] <hangthedj> !ot | hangthedj
[09:04] <kayuuwi> hangthedj, can it auto-mount usb flash disk and usb-external-hdd with ntfs file system?
[09:04] <hangthedj> it should
[09:04] <hangthedj> get the newest version from www.xubuntu.org
[09:04] <kkathman> Greencookie:  you understand what to do??
[09:05] <yendor> Sorry I got DC.. do I have to repeat my question?
[09:05] <kkathman> yendor:  what was you question?
[09:05] <zaurav_> sorry got disconnected:)
[09:06] <zaurav_> hello!
[09:06] <kkathman> hi
[09:06] <zaurav_> Does anyone have experience installing the ndiswrapper for netgear 111?
[09:07] <kkathman> i dont
[09:07] <gustavo> hi!
[09:07] <zaurav_> ah kk
[09:07] <zaurav_> hi gustavo.
[09:07] <hangthedj> !ntfs-3g | kayuuwi
[09:07] <Ubotu> kayuuwi: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[09:07] <gustavo> sorry for this noob question, but whats the opera browser package?
[09:07] <kkathman> gustavo:  its a browser like firefox
[09:08] <gustavo> i know, but whats its package?
[09:08] <zaurav_> its the entire package for opera..which is a browser
[09:08] <gustavo> apt-get install opera?
[09:08] <gustavo> it doesnt exists
[09:08] <kkathman> gustavo:  I think you have to get it on their site
[09:08] <zaurav_> i always apt-get such things
[09:08] <kkathman> I always did
[09:09] <zaurav_> apt-get install opera
[09:09] <kkathman> zaurav_:  I dont know that opera is in the repos
[09:09] <kkathman> you can try apt-cache search opera browser and see
[09:09] <kayuuwi> is ntfs-3g already pack with the xubuntu or i have to download/install it myself?
[09:09] <hangthedj> you have to add the archive.canonical.com
[09:09] <hangthedj> repository to get opera
[09:09] <hangthedj> !find opera
[09:09] <Ubotu> File opera found in apparmor-profiles, crossfire-maps, crossfire-maps-small, debian-edu-config, localization-config
[09:09] <zaurav_> oh k
[09:09] <kkathman> I just went to the opera site and theres a custom download for ubuntu users
[09:10] <hangthedj> kayuuwi, sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[09:10] <zaurav_> apt-cache search opera browser...is it to see if opera is in repos?
[09:10] <hangthedj> but i don't think you can do that from the live cd
[09:10] <kkathman> you download the deb file and install with dpkg- i
[09:10] <zaurav_> !find opera
[09:10] <Ubotu> File opera found in apparmor-profiles, crossfire-maps, crossfire-maps-small, debian-edu-config, localization-config
[09:11] <zaurav_> wow
[09:11] <zaurav_> :)
[09:11] <hangthedj> !opera
[09:11] <Ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[09:11] <kkathman> its going to be an older version there I bet also
[09:11] <zaurav_> 1st week of linux here ^_^
[09:11] <zaurav_> !konversation
[09:11] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konversation - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:11] <NightBird> have fun zaurav_
[09:11] <zaurav_> lol i am:D
[09:11] <zaurav_> i like this IRC chat thingie..
[09:12] <kkathman> zaurav_:  you should probably stay with firefox tho, honestly
[09:12] <zaurav_> I like firefox tho
[09:12] <hangthedj> i like firefox way more than opera
[09:12] <zaurav_> oh yeah:D
[09:12] <kkathman> opera doesnt work really well in linux
[09:12] <kayuuwi> i have to download ntfs-3g? from where? any dependecies?
[09:12] <zaurav_> I just installed tons of extensions.
[09:12] <hangthedj> !info ntfs-3g
[09:12] <Ubotu> ntfs-3g: read-write NTFS driver for FUSE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.328-1 (feisty), package size 25 kB, installed size 88 kB
[09:12] <hangthedj> kayuuwi, you have to apt-get it.
[09:12] <zaurav_> kayuuwi apt-cache search ntfs-3g
[09:12] <kkathman> alot of its multimedia pins are not the same api as what firefox is, and as such wont support things like embedded audio/video well
[09:13] <zaurav_> !find ntsf-3g
[09:13] <Ubotu> Package/file ntsf-3g does not exist in feisty
[09:13] <hangthedj> i hate how the widgets in opera are always in the way.
[09:13] <hangthedj> zaurav_, ntfs
[09:14] <zaurav_> oh lol..thnx bud
[09:14] <yendor> I recently repair my wifi & wired connection on kubuntu, but now I cannot access the router on 192.168.1.254.... can you help me with the route table please?
[09:14] <zaurav_> !find ntfs-3g
[09:14] <Ubotu> Found: libntfs-3g-dev, libntfs-3g0, ntfs-3g
[09:14] <kkathman> if you dont mind not having embedded video/audio, opera is definitely fastest
[09:14] <hangthedj> zaurav_, usually you would access it on 192.168.1.1
[09:15] <kkathman> flash works most of the time, except in some special cases where its called by javascript
[09:15] <hangthedj> but firefox has the fullscreen homestarrunner.com
[09:15] <hangthedj> addon
[09:15] <zaurav_> Any of you folks use Amarok?
[09:15] <kkathman> lol
[09:15] <kkathman> yes I use amarok - its the best player
[09:15] <zaurav_> hangthedj that was yendor:) hehe
[09:16] <zaurav_> Amarok yes! Best player for me too.
[09:16] <hangthedj> sorry, i must like you
[09:16] <zaurav_> rofl
[09:16] <kkathman> if you are running kubuntu why would you NOT use amarok :)
[09:16] <kkathman> shoot when I ran ubuntu I used amarok :)
[09:16] <zaurav_> Yeh plus works with foxytunes extention.
[09:16] <zaurav_> Which is turn works with twitter addon for foxy:)
[09:17] <zaurav_> = awesomeness :)
[09:17] <yendor> Amarok RULEZ :P
[09:17] <zaurav_> lol
[09:17] <zaurav_> but right now my Amarok is frozen cuz I just made it rescan my entire library.
[09:17] <kkathman> zaurav_:  you might try using Konqueror as your browser for a while and see if that works for you - its very compliant with all aspects of Flash 9, and supports all the audio and video plugins
[09:18] <yendor> I recently repair my wifi & wired connection on kubuntu, but now I cannot access the router on 192.168.1.254.... can you help me with the route table please?
[09:18] <zaurav_> hey is there any way to autotag MP3 files in amarok?
[09:18] <hangthedj> as much as i love konqueror, it has no full screen homestarrunner plugin.
[09:18] <zaurav_> I saw it has an auto album art feature.. is there anything like that?
[09:18] <kkathman> zaurav_:  afraid not, you have to actually edit almost every tag to put in the disk # I think
[09:18] <hangthedj> yendor, usually you would access the router on 192.168.1.1
[09:19] <Greencookie> or 192.168.2.1
[09:19] <kkathman> or 0.1
[09:19] <Greencookie> lol
[09:19] <hangthedj> zaurav_, there are scripts.
[09:19] <hangthedj> or 192.168.15.1
[09:19] <Greencookie> its greencookie now:)
[09:19] <kkathman> you can write a script if you are savvy to build the xml stuff
[09:20] <yendor> hello... mine is SET to be accessed at 254 :P
[09:20] <Greencookie> erm. Not a very proficient linux user. Havent done scripts yet.
[09:20] <Greencookie> This is my first week into linux:)
[09:20] <hangthedj> my new motto is, learn python.
[09:20] <yendor> BUT that matters little... I want to enable the 192.168  range on my routing table
[09:20] <Greencookie> Mine is, Learn Java
[09:20] <Greencookie> i just had Python class last semester.
[09:21] <kkathman> hangthedj:  ugh dont waste your time :)
[09:21] <kkathman> go Qt :)
[09:21] <Greencookie> is there a short cut to reply to a person? like include his nick in my message?
[09:22] <kkathman> Greencookie:  yes - use the auto complete -  type first few letters . then hit tab
[09:22] <Greencookie> kkathman: whats Qt?
[09:22] <hangthedj> but qt is just a gui frame work.  i say learn C or C++ and everything else will fall into place
[09:22] <Greencookie> kkathman: THANKS!
[09:22] <kkathman> !qt
[09:22] <Ubotu> Qt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI. Install the libqt3-mt-dev package to compile Qt applications
[09:22] <Greencookie> kkathman: I will use ! from now on..thanks again.
[09:22] <kkathman> np
[09:22] <Greencookie> wow I'm learning so many things already:D
[09:23] <Greencookie> but there still are LOTS of problems to be sorted out :(
[09:23] <kkathman> Greencookie:  word to the wise - learn your terminal commands too, they will save your life :)
[09:23] <Greencookie> I havent yet played around with terminal commands
[09:23] <Greencookie> But I do know Ctrl + Shift + 'v' = Paste:)
[09:23] <hangthedj> yendor, what happens when you try to access your router?
[09:24] <kkathman> Greencookie:  just ctrl-v
[09:24] <Greencookie> kkathman: lol really?
[09:24] <kkathman> yup
[09:24] <kkathman> hangthedj:  can he ping the router?
[09:24] <Greencookie> well it showed shortcut as ctrl+shift+v so i thought that was it:)
[09:24] <hangthedj> i dunno.
[09:24] <kayuuwi> hangthedj, zaurav, thnx vmuch for yhe help...
[09:25] <hangthedj> Greencookie, you should register your nick.
[09:25] <Greencookie> kayuuwi: Hey:) NP. I didn't help much tho. Noob here myself.
[09:25] <Greencookie> hangthedj: how??
[09:25] <Greencookie>  /register?
[09:26] <Greencookie> I'm very much a WoW person btw.:)
[09:26] <kkathman> Greencookie:  /msg nickserv register [yourpasword] 
[09:26] <Greencookie> cool
[09:26] <Greencookie> i think I just did:)
[09:26] <kkathman> then to identify, its  /msg nickserv identify [yourpassword] 
[09:26] <Greencookie> thnx
[09:27] <Greencookie> oh lemme try
[09:27] <hangthedj> yendor, yeah, what if you ping your router, what does it say?
[09:27] <Greencookie> Success!
[09:28] <hangthedj> yay, Greencookie is now identified to services.
[09:28] <Greencookie> Hehe, glad to join the force.
[09:28] <Greencookie> Kubuntu or Ubuntu?
[09:29] <hangthedj> Kubuntu
[09:29] <hangthedj> i hate gnome
[09:29] <Greencookie> Kubuntu here too :)
[09:29] <kkathman> gnome works ok, and its fine for many people
[09:29] <Greencookie> Well I screwed up my Gnome desktop and had no idea to reset it so had no choice:)
[09:29] <kkathman> but it has its issues
[09:29] <hangthedj> its just so ugly and unconfigurable compared to kde
[09:30] <Greencookie> I keep getting forced into making a decision lol:)
[09:30] <kkathman> hangthedj:  well you can pretty much dress gnome to look just like kde
[09:30] <kkathman> but out of the box tis a bit stark
[09:30] <hangthedj> i guess.
[09:30] <kkathman> my ubuntu install looks exactly like a mac
[09:30] <kkathman> all the way down to the parabolic menus
[09:30] <sfsdfs> somebody know a good hdd manager (df -h gui)
[09:30] <hangthedj> :(
[09:31] <kkathman> sfsdfs:  hdparm
[09:31] <kkathman> oh you want gui, sorry
[09:31] <hangthedj> filelight is pretty nice, it shows stuff, i dunno about manage though.
[09:31] <kkathman> sfsdfs:  try kinfocenter
[09:32] <sfsdfs> kkathman: tune hard disk parameters for high performance ?????????
[09:32] <kkathman> yeah you have to get to like kparted to actually manage partitions etc
[09:32] <kkathman> sfsdfs:  what exactly are you looking to do in hdd management?
[09:33] <kkathman> if you just wanna see usage/free, use kinfocenter, if you want to change partitions, you'll need kparted
[09:33] <sfsdfs> basicly size ... kkathman
[09:33] <kkathman> sfsdfs:  either gparted or kparted
[09:33] <hangthedj> or qtparted! :D
[09:33] <kkathman> yah that too :)
[09:33] <kkathman> hehe
[09:34] <kkathman> all those "parteds"
[09:35] <hangthedj> they're all gui interfaces for parted i think
[09:35] <zaurav_> arg!
[09:35] <kkathman> yep
[09:35] <zaurav_> I keep getting DCed for sum reason.
[09:36] <zaurav_> Plus I can't connect to my wireless router if it has security enabled. Strange.
[09:36] <zaurav_> how do I kick old me from there?
[09:36] <hangthedj> zaurav_, i know in my router there is a setting, to choose if wireless connections can connect to it, or only lan connections.
[09:36] <kkathman> theres some ghost command that eludes me zaurav_
[09:37] <hangthedj> i love my router, we're best friends.
[09:37] <kkathman> you want your router to be your bitch :)  do exactly what its told :)
[09:37] <zaurav_> hangthedj: I only connect to router using wireless, not lan.
[09:37] <zaurav_> I wish my router would be my bitch :(
[09:37] <kkathman> tame it :)
[09:38] <zaurav_> Gotta give it a couple of slaps (literally) sometimes.
[09:38] <zaurav_> Yeah, I need to learn how to push its buttons;)
[09:38] <zaurav_> I'm taking a Networking class this semester, hopefully, which will help.
[09:39] <kkathman> zaurav_:  usually you can put your router address in a browser and it will get you access to its interface
[09:39] <kkathman> so from firefox, you type http://192.168.0.1  or whatever your addie is
[09:40] <kkathman> and it should bring up the router interface for you
[09:40] <hangthedj> a routers like a woman, if you don't spend a considerable amount of time messing with its switches, it isn't gonna do anything for you.
[09:40] <kkathman> lol
[09:41] <kkathman> hehe
[09:41] <hangthedj> i would, but this router takes up most of my time ;)
[09:41] <kkathman> lol
[09:42] <kkathman> hangthedj:  danger sign - if you buy it lingerie, its definitely time for a vacation
[09:42] <hangthedj> right hehe
[09:43] <hangthedj> i tried, nothing fits.
[09:43] <zaurav__> :(
[09:43] <zaurav__> Do you guys chat on other irc servers?
[09:45] <mark__> hello
[09:47] <zaurav__> knock knock
[09:47] <hangthedj> zaurav__, #kubuntu-offtopic
[09:48] <hangthedj> nobody chats there, but i wish they would.
[09:48] <mark105> whats the best way to do network partitions in kubuntu
[09:48] <niels_> Ubotu: adept fix crash
[09:49] <hangthedj> !adeptfix
[09:49] <Ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[09:49] <niels_> hangthedj: thx
[09:49] <mark105> as i have to keep goin sudo mount n so on
[09:50] <mark105> all i wanna do is click on a icon n it mount
[09:51] <kkathman> mark105:  why not put it in your fstab?
[09:51] <kkathman> then it will mount each time you boot
[09:51] <mark105> yeh but i have a laptop
[09:51] <mark105> so i dont want it to
[09:52] <kkathman> shrug
[09:52] <mark105> but i do have it in fstab
[09:52] <mark105> to save how much i have to type haha
[09:52] <kkathman> yah
[09:52] <mark105> but yeh
[09:52] <mark105> i dunno
[09:53] <Jalathan> wouldn't mtab be better, so sudo isn't required? (novice view here)
[09:53] <kkathman> well even if you have it ther and its not not availble - no harm no foul
[09:53] <mark105> whats mtab?
[09:53] <hangthedj> if you have a laptop and its in fstab, and your not around the computer your trying to connect to, it will fail.
[09:53] <mark105> true i spose
[09:53] <hangthedj> or if your around it, it will connect.
[09:53] <kkathman> right
[09:53] <pillowpants> is there something up with dapper drake
[09:54] <hangthedj> yeah its old
[09:54] <pillowpants> to wheres its repositories are messed up?
[09:54] <kkathman> pillowpants:  well dapper is about 2 releases back
[09:54] <kkathman> almost 3
[09:54] <pillowpants> is the compatability of programs the same for dapper as fiesty?
[09:54] <kkathman> no
[09:54] <kkathman> some maybe
[09:54] <pillowpants> like say, audacious, linuxdcpp, deluge-torrent
[09:55] <kkathman> hmm possibly but I dunno
[09:55] <pillowpants> ive got all my repositories put up right, but i cant get those hits from the list
[09:55] <kkathman> in general alot of water has gone under that bridge
[09:55] <pillowpants> and i was on feisty like 2 weeks back
[09:55] <kkathman> pillowpants:  dapper was 6.04 right?
[09:55] <pillowpants> yeah
[09:55] <pillowpants> lts edition
[09:55] <kkathman> do yeah you should be able to get to the repos
[09:56] <pillowpants> could i update my system as opposed to downloading and installing the kubuntu 7.04 iso?
[09:56] <pillowpants> online*
[09:57] <hangthedj> bash.org is funny
[09:57] <hangthedj> pillowpants, but you have to go to edgy -> feisty
[09:57] <hangthedj> and then -> gusty if you wish.
[09:57] <hangthedj> you can't just go from dapper -> feisty for some reasy
[09:57] <pillowpants> sounds tedious
[09:57] <pillowpants> but how would i do that?
[09:57] <hangthedj> reasy? reason.
[09:57] <Weeltin> Hi.. can i run KDE and GNOME on same instance of KUBUNTU??
[09:58] <enjoi1216> hey kkathman are you there
[09:58] <Weeltin> and how do i do it??
[09:58] <hangthedj> you have to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:58] <pillowpants> weeltin: yeah
[09:58] <hangthedj> to say edgy instead of dapper
[09:58] <hangthedj> then to say fiesty instead of edgy
[09:58] <pillowpants> the update everything?
[09:58] <enjoi1216> what is going on pillow
[09:58] <pillowpants> then*
[09:59] <kkathman> enjoi1216:  yeppers :)
[09:59] <hangthedj> no you have to change it to edgy, then sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:59] <hangthedj> then change it to fiesty and do the same.
[09:59] <enjoi1216> well i'm still having issues with myspace
[09:59] <pillowpants> ill assume that would take quite a while?
[09:59] <hangthedj> who isn't
[09:59] <kkathman> enjoi1216:  what kind of issues?
[10:00] <Weeltin> How do i installe Gnome on a Kubuntu?
[10:00] <enjoi1216> like when i go to login into myspace to check my messages
[10:00] <hangthedj> myspace is the buggiest peice of crap web application on the net.
[10:00] <kkathman> Weeltin:  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:00] <enjoi1216> there is somethign about linux that it doesn't like
[10:00] <hangthedj> Weeltin, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:00] <pillowpants> Weeltin: just search for it in adept
[10:00] <Weeltin> thanks..
[10:00] <kkathman> I dont have anyprobs with myspace
[10:00] <pillowpants> hangthedj: word
[10:01] <enjoi1216> well kkathman i got logged in
[10:01] <hangthedj> they run adobe coldfusion, and MS IIS.
[10:01] <kkathman> well thats a good start :)
[10:01] <kkathman> man I thought coldfusion was dead :)
[10:01] <hangthedj> Tom always has some bulletin, says sorry for the problems, were doing blah blah blah
[10:02] <hangthedj> kkathman, i think only myspace uses it.
[10:02] <kkathman> lol
[10:02] <hangthedj> but they mix it with js and php
[10:02] <kkathman> maybe so
[10:02] <kkathman> yeah they are doing maintenance right now
[10:03] <enjoi1216> hey kkathman are there any kubuntu emulators that i can download for free so that i can run win apps on my lnux maching
[10:03] <enjoi1216> free emulators
[10:03] <hangthedj> i don't use myspace anymore, unless someone sends me a message then i reply and say, email me at a real email address instead.
[10:03] <Weeltin> pillowpants: how do i then chance from KDE to GNOME? and back again??
[10:03] <hangthedj> hey, everyone who's offtopic should move to #kubunu-offtopic
[10:04] <hangthedj> we can be in both channels.
[10:04] <pillowpants> crt + alt + backspace
[10:04] <pillowpants> session, change to gnome
[10:04] <pillowpants> log back in
[10:04] <kkathman> enjoi1216:  you might try wine
[10:04] <pillowpants> there you are
[10:04] <hangthedj> we'll show #ubuntu-offtopic were alive.
[10:04] <kkathman> !wine | enjoi1216
[10:04] <Ubotu> enjoi1216: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:04] <Weeltin> pillowpants: thanks..
[10:04] <pillowpants> sure
[10:08] <pillowpants> i cant even see wine in my repositories
[10:08] <pillowpants> if i dont get this fixed, im just going to download the fiesty kubuntu iso and re do my system
[10:08] <enjoi1216> well whats the first steps that i need to do since i am so Kubuntu iliterate
[10:08] <pillowpants> spent the better part of this last day doing..
[10:09] <combinio> what's the name of programm that people are saving movies what they're doing on their comps ??
[10:09] <combinio> like on You Tube u can watch Beryl movies etc. :)
[10:09] <hangthedj> combinio, install krecordmydesktop
[10:09] <combinio> hangthedj: thx
[10:10] <combinio> hangthedj: wait a sec
[10:10] <combinio> r u sure u gave me good name ?
[10:10] <combinio> there is no such pack (?)
[10:10] <combinio> :] 
[10:10] <waylandbill> !info recordmydekstop
[10:10] <Ubotu> Package recordmydekstop does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[10:11] <Jucato> !info krecordmydesktop
[10:11] <Ubotu> Package krecordmydesktop does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[10:11] <Jucato> !info krecordmydesktop gutsy
[10:11] <waylandbill> wierd. It's in my package list. I found it by apt-cache search desktop | grep record
[10:11] <Ubotu> krecordmydesktop: kde frontend to recordmydesktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1~alpha1+debian-1 (gutsy), package size 75 kB, installed size 300 kB
[10:11] <combinio> Jucato: hey :)
[10:11] <Jucato> gutsy only
[10:12] <hangthedj> ahh, right
[10:12] <hangthedj> gusty only
[10:12] <Jucato> hi combinio
[10:12] <combinio> so is there something else under Feisty ? :)
[10:12] <Jucato> !info screenkast
[10:12] <Ubotu> Package screenkast does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[10:12] <hangthedj> http://recordmydesktop.iovar.org/about.php
[10:12] <Jucato> nope... screenkast is in gutsy only too...
[10:12] <waylandbill> odd. the backend I found in feisty even though it's not listed on here.
[10:12] <combinio> crap!
[10:13] <combinio> but there must be something that they use if there are such movies under FF
[10:13] <Jucato> waylandbill: surely there's no dekstop :)
[10:13] <Jucato> !info recordmydesktop
[10:13] <Ubotu> recordmydesktop: Captures audio-video data of a linux desktop session. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-1 (feisty), package size 40 kB, installed size 128 kB
[10:13] <combinio> i just want to save a conferention that will be emited in flash on WWW :] 
[10:13] <waylandbill> HA! good catch jucato. lol
[10:13] <combinio> that's all
[10:14] <Jucato> the GUI frontend would be gtk-recordmydesktop
[10:14] <combinio> i want to made some podcast
[10:14] <hangthedj> !find gtk-recordmydesktop
[10:14] <Ubotu> Found: gtk-recordmydesktop
[10:14] <hangthedj> oops
[10:14] <combinio> Jucato: if i install it - will be this workiing as well ?
[10:14] <waylandbill> I was beginning to wonder if it was from backports or something, but it's just my dyslexia. ;-)
[10:14] <Jucato> why wouldn't it work? :)
[10:15] <Jucato> your dylsxeai?
[10:15] <combinio> i mean - will be workiin' with normal speed not slowly because of my procesor :)
[10:15] <combinio> etc.
[10:15] <waylandbill> Jucato: hehe
[10:15] <hangthedj> combinio, depends on what kind of processor you have
[10:15] <Jucato> dunno... you have to try it yourself
[10:16] <combinio> but programms under GNOME works slower under KDE, right ?
[10:16] <Jucato> no@
[10:16] <Jucato> no!
[10:16] <combinio> ok then :)
[10:16] <combinio> so i'm installing gtk-recordmydesktop
[10:17] <patrick__> Hi there
[10:18] <hangthedj> intresting, there is only a .deb package for krecordmydesktop if your on gusty, if you go to kde-apps.org you have to compile it.
[10:18] <waylandbill> the first time it loads a gtk library, there may be a slight delay, but with the speed of today's computers it can't be that long.
[10:19] <hangthedj> gtk is so ugly though
[10:19] <Jucato> you can make it look like anything
[10:19] <Jucato> anyway... /me is gone
[10:20] <wisecom> Hi@all. where do i find the default settings of the wlan network under feisty fawn? thanx for supporting my
[10:20] <waylandbill> there's a setting to make gtk widgets take on the look of kde ones in system settings.
[10:20] <hangthedj> its set to QT
[10:20] <hangthedj> on my machines.
[10:21] <hangthedj> but gtk is still ugly
[10:24] <yendor> BUT that matters little... I want to enable the 192.168  range on my routing table
[10:24] <yendor> I recently repaired my wifi & wired connection on kubuntu, but now I cannot access the router on 192.168.1.254.... can you help me with the route table please?
[10:24] <hangthedj> nice macro
[10:25] <patrick__> I was installing some software in W2K within VmWare when I had a message that made a comment along the lines of "IO error"
[10:26] <patrick__> I then had problems with the machine and had to reboot
[10:26] <patrick__> Now I get only a >grub command
[10:26] <patrick__> Tried accessing the drive with a live disk
[10:26] <patrick__> but could only access /etc
[10:26] <patrick__> had other errors stating "file system not known" for the other parts of the drive
[10:27] <patrick__> I'd appreciate any assistance offered with this
[10:27] <enjoi1216> kkathman i went to the website and it said that wine was not an emulator
[10:27] <kkathman> its arguable each way
[10:27] <kkathman> but its does do a decent job of playing some windows games on linux
[10:28] <enjoi1216> ok like how so like break it down to me because i'm still kinda learning linux
[10:28] <enjoi1216> like how would you rate it yourself
[10:28] <enjoi1216> ?
[10:28] <waylandbill> it's not an emulator. It's a compatability layer based on reverse engineered libraries.
[10:29] <enjoi1216> you know something i could see it right now
[10:31] <enjoi1216> windows trys to make a multiple desktop windows system and then they install it like the next operating system after Vista and they do an install and try to make like Kubuntu Linux and upon istallation ti blows the computer up
[10:32] <enjoi1216> hey kkathman did you ever hear about the X Windows system blowing a comp up upon installation of Linux 6.0
[10:32] <enjoi1216> i have heard it's actually possible
[10:33] <kkathman> define "blowing a comp up"
[10:33] <mark105> haha
[10:33] <kkathman> If you arent careful you can certainly damage hardware and even monitors
[10:33] <enjoi1216> ok like i took a class on Red Hat Linux 6.0
[10:34] <kkathman> but thats extremely rare nowadays because of the auto configuration tools
[10:34] <enjoi1216> well but see heres the thing
[10:34] <enjoi1216> like when our Teacher in college
[10:34] <kkathman> Fedora is Red Hat's public, open offering
[10:34] <combinio> how to install flash & java under Konqueror ??
[10:35] <kkathman> !flash | combinio
[10:35] <Ubotu> combinio: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[10:35] <_4strO> combinio: you have it on firefox ?
[10:35] <combinio> i have no firefox... only opera
[10:35] <kkathman> !java | combinio
[10:35] <Ubotu> combinio: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[10:35] <enjoi1216> was teaching us to do a manual insatall with Red Hat Linux 6.0 he was reading and like the amount of megabytes that you need to set up your video card up for
[10:35] <combinio> sun-java5-jre - is already installed
[10:35] <combinio> so only flash
[10:35] <kkathman> enjoi1216:  yah, the old way - you had to configure the range for veritcal and horizontal sweeps etc
[10:36] <kkathman> combinio:  see what ubotu told you above for flash
[10:36] <combinio> kkathman: i downloaded libflashplayer.so with some another 2 files
[10:37] <combinio> but how to install it under Konqueror?
[10:37] <enjoi1216> but see the thing is like if you set up the software settings more then your alotted megabytes on your video card then it will strain everything so bad in 6.0 that i guess it can blow the video card up and cause a monitor explosion as well
[10:38] <enjoi1216> well kkathman it's just mindblowing that Linux software was designed that powerful
[10:38] <kkathman> combinio: in general, you only need to go to Konqueror- configure konq - and go to plugins -then have it look for the plugins
[10:39] <kkathman> enjoi1216:  well, powerful in the sense that years ago, if you didnt know what you were doing you could REALLY screw things up
[10:39] <kkathman> it forced you to "know" your hardware
[10:39] <kkathman> now, not so much
[10:40] <enjoi1216> hey kkathman can you give me hands on on what exact emulator to download and to help me get things setup because i was wanting to download myspace messenger
[10:41] <combinio> ok it works - thank a lot! :)
[10:41] <kkathman> enjoi1216:  you might wanna check to see if thats compatible with wine
[10:41] <enjoi1216> because of friendship communication
[10:41] <kkathman> enjoi1216:  go to http://frankscorner.org
[10:41] <kkathman> i think thats the right place
[10:42] <kkathman> they have lists of compatible games, programs that work under wine
[10:42] <hangthedj> enjoi1216, myspace messenger doesn't really work with wine.
[10:42] <kkathman> in general you are out of luck if the app uses active-x
[10:42] <hangthedj> it also doesn't work with that other proprietary company that i can't think of their name, but they use wine.
[10:42] <enjoi1216> yeah but see heres the thing Widnows XP is c:
[10:43] <hangthedj> crossover linux, myspace messenger doesn't work with crossover linux either.
[10:43] <enjoi1216> because thats what the new Win Kernel is because it's  got DOS stripped away from it because now it is it's oown indepent and New Kernel
[10:43] <hangthedj> you have to install a virtual machine if you wanna run it.
[10:43] <enjoi1216> because i studied up on it
[10:44] <enjoi1216> ok hang and how do i go about doing that
[10:45] <enjoi1216> ok well where do i need to go
[10:45] <hangthedj> You can use virtualbox, vmware server qemu, but you have to install windows, and have a reg code.
[10:45] <hangthedj> !Virtualbox
[10:45] <Ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[10:46] <kumamoto> whoever is looking for good support for windows emulation check out reactos
[10:46] <kumamoto> http://www.reactos.org/en/index.html
[10:47] <kumamoto> kkathman: I believe cedega is the name u were looking for
[10:48] <enjoi1216> alright kkathman
[10:49] <enjoi1216> if you are going to be on tommorrow then hollar at me
[10:49] <enjoi1216> no Ubotu i don't wanna go through all that hassle
[10:51] <josiah> !dvd
[10:51] <Ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[10:52] <hangthedj> reactOS isn't a VM, it's an OS
[10:52] <hangthedj> duh.. hmm .. read the name .. sorry
[10:52] <hangthedj> its late.
[10:59] <pillowpants> what version of kubuntu are you guys using
[10:59] <pillowpants> fiesty?
[11:02] <kumamoto> feisty\
[11:04] <sander_> how can I change the settings of KNetworkManager back from "Manual network configuration" to the state where it automaticly picks the best connection?
[11:04] <sander_> And lists all availible connections
[11:04] <sander_> Running feisty btw
[11:05] <lnx_> what in kde is like gconf editor in gnome ?
[11:06] <Jucato> lnx_: nothing. there is basically no need for it
[11:06] <emilsedgh> lnx_: KDE has no gconf :)
[11:07] <Jucato> KDE has most of its configurations available in Configure dialog boxes.
[11:07] <Jucato> and for the few that aren't in there, KDE uses plain text config files
[11:07] <emilsedgh> Jucato: are you running Gutsy? and have your krecordmydesktop? Im trying to make a package for feisty, but its not running properly
[11:07] <lnx_> so how i can unmount drivers ( ntfs ) that ware mounted in the desktop ?
[11:07] <Jucato> lnx_: right-click on them -> Unmount?
[11:08] <Jucato> emilsedgh: on gutsy, but don't have krecordmydesktop installed. why not try asking in #ubuntu-motu if it can be backported to feisty?
[11:08] <lnx_> Jucato , there isnt unmount in right click
[11:09] <emilsedgh> Jucato: no im not yet experiented, but its not packaging problem, looks like krecordmydesktop is not running fine and is bogus
[11:09] <Jucato> lnx_: in Konqueror, type media:/ in the address bar (or click on the system menu icon beside the K Menu and select Storage Media)
[11:10] <Jucato> emilsedgh: what does experience have to do with it? I was just saying that you could request krecordmydesktop to be backported from gutys to feisty :)
[11:10] <Jucato> backport basically means packaging something that exists in a more recent release to an older release
[11:10] <cricro> hi guys,i wante to know if anyone is able to help me;on festy,hard disk in slow.hdparm tell me
[11:10] <cricro> /dev/sda1:
[11:10] <cricro>  Timing cached reads:   688 MB in  2.00 seconds = 343.46 MB/sec
[11:10] <cricro>  Timing buffered disk reads:  140 MB in  3.02 seconds =  46.29 MB/sec
[11:11] <cricro> sorry
[11:11] <emilsedgh> Jucato: I dont want to request somebody to do this, I want to learn packaging myself, thanks at all
[11:11] <Jucato> emilsedgh: ok then. but #ubuntu-motu will still be the place to ask for packaging help/assistance :)
[11:11] <lnx_> Jucato , adn what next ?
[11:11] <Jucato> good luck
[11:11] <emilsedgh> thanks
[11:12] <Jucato> lnx_: look for your ntfs drive, right-click -> Unmount
[11:12] <Jucato> if no option is there, then it means it might be unmounted already
[11:12] <_4strO> or he as no permission to do that
[11:12] <cricro> Can anyone help me?my hard disk are very slow with Ubuntu:hdparm on sda1 Timing cached reads:   688 MB in  2.00 seconds = 343.46 MB/sec.on hda1  Timing cached reads:    454 MB in  2.05 seconds = 221.89 MB/sec
[11:12] <_4strO> has*
[11:13] <lnx_> Jucato , i have found him but it have no "unmount" option
[11:13] <Jucato> _4strO: whether or not he has permission, at least the option "Unmount" will be there when he right-clicks on it :)
[11:13] <Jucato> lnx_: then it's not mounted (unmounted)
[11:14] <lnx_> it is , i see it on the desktop ( the driver not a shortcut )
[11:14] <sander_> How can I change the settings of KNetworkManager back from "Manual network configuration" to the state where it automaticly picks the best connection?
[11:14] <Jucato> lnx_: er... does the icon on the desktop have a green arrow?
[11:14] <lnx_> Jucato , no
[11:14] <Jucato> lnx_: then it's not mounted :)
[11:15] <Jucato> it's just displayed on your desktop, but not mounted
[11:15] <cricro> ok,thank u :D
[11:16] <lnx_> Jucato , its mounted on the /mdeia/hda7 but why it have an icon on desktop ?
[11:16] <Jucato> right-click on the desktop, Configure Desktop -> Behavior -> Device icons tab -> Uncheck "Unmounted Hard Disk Volume" maybe?
[11:19] <lnx_> doesnt work
[11:19] <Jucato> doesn't know
[11:22] <_4strO> mmm
[11:23] <_4strO> too late
[11:27] <mark105> whats easyest way to configure my wireless to start at boot?
[11:28] <sbucat> ?
[11:28] <sbucat> mark105: what are yyour problem
[11:28] <Jucato> mark105: knetworkmanager?
[11:29] <mark105> nah im using knetworkmanager and it only seems to start it when i log in
[11:29] <sbucat> mark105: console =) is your friend  sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[11:29] <sbucat> mark105: mm  you can configure your file interfaces and then sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[11:29] <Jucato> I have an option here that says "Activiate when the computer starts"...
[11:29] <sbucat> mark105: wifi open or with wpa wep?
[11:30] <mark105> wep
[11:30] <sbucat> mark105: well...you must only configure your interfaces file and =) stop
[11:31] <sbucat> mark105: gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[11:31] <sbucat> mark105: or sudo kate  /etc/network/interfaces
[11:31] <Jucato> !kdesu
[11:31] <sbucat> mm sorry
[11:31] <Ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[11:31] <sbucat> mark105: or sudo gedit  /etc/network/interfaces
[11:32] <Jucato> hm.. we are in kubuntu...
[11:32] <sbucat> =) yea sorry
[11:32] <Jucato> gedit won't exist
[11:32] <kdehl> Hi all, I have a problem with SCIM, I can't install it. I get "invoke-rc.d: initscript acpid, action "start" failed.", when it tries to setup acpid modules, or something. It seems to be a well-known error, according to Google, but the solution is to "install acpid from source", which I have no clue on how to do in Kubuntu. Can someone help me? Im in China, nad have a horrible chat lag, sorry for that.
[11:32] <Jucato> mark105: did you check the option to Activate when the computer starts?
[11:34] <vlt> Hello. Where can I change the background image of Konqueror in file browser mode?
[11:34] <Jucato> vlt: View menu -> Configure Background
[11:37] <vlt> Jucato: aaah, the "view" menu ... thanks
[11:37] <Jucato> yeah. weird place to put it.. but at the same time logical if you think about it :)
[11:38] <vlt> (aaah, better)
[11:40] <vlt> (I'm connected to my KDE desktop via a quite slow vnc connection. Everything works fine, except for switching to a Konqueror filebrowser window. Now w/o such a filigree bg image it's ok ;-)
[11:42] <rageagainstMS> hi
[11:42] <rageagainstMS> what a  partition prog for Kubuntu thanks
[11:42] <rageagainstMS> hello?
[11:43] <Jucato> !info qtparted | rageagainstMS
[11:43] <Ubotu> rageagainstms: qtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu12 (feisty), package size 206 kB, installed size 720 kB
[11:43] <rageagainstMS> Jucato: k thanks very  mucho
[11:47] <somiran> i need help
[11:47] <somiran> can i load rpm package in kubuntu
[11:48] <Jucato> !rpm | somiran
[11:48] <Ubotu> somiran: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[11:48] <somiran> ubuntu.org
[11:48] <somiran> red hat package
[11:49] <somiran> how dengerous
[11:49] <Jucato> it could mess up your system dangerous?
[11:49] <somiran> i have install alien but i cant find it in my system tree
[11:50] <somiran> ok that mean i should nt install rpm ok
[11:50] <Jucato> !alien
[11:50] <Ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[11:51] <Jucato> hm... yeah. try to find a .deb file for it
[11:51] <somiran> ok
[11:51] <somiran> any clue which deb file
[11:51] <Jucato> um.. any clue what program you're trying to install?
[11:52] <somiran> its java runtime
[11:52] <somiran> ibm java
[11:52] <Jucato> why not just install from Add/Remove Programs?
[11:52] <Jucato> Add/Remove Programs, search for Sun Java and install that
[11:53] <somiran> my internate speed is very slow so i was trying that
[11:53] <somiran> i got that cd in pc world
[11:54] <somiran> what does APT means
[11:54] <Jucato> !apt
[11:54] <Ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[11:55] <Jucato> it's Debian's counterpart to RPM (the program)
[11:55] <somiran> which other linux distro use the same package manager
[11:56] <somiran> so that i can use cds to load new application
[11:56] <Jucato> rpm? Red Hat/Fedora, Novell/openSUSE, PCLinuxOS, CentOS, etc etc etc
[11:57] <Jucato> have you tried Add/Remove Programs? is it really too slow?
[11:57] <somiran> my speed is slow
[11:57] <Jucato> you've tried it?
[11:58] <somiran> no i said apt
[11:58] <somiran> not rpm
[11:58] <Jucato> apt? Debian, the whole Ubuntu family, MEPIS, KNOPPIX, and lots of others
[11:58] <somiran> ya till all my application is loaded by add/remove manager or synaptic
[11:59] <somiran> ok then if i got a knoppix cd then ican use that cd to install new application
[11:59] <Jucato> ???
[12:00] <Jucato> knoppix is also based on debian, which uses .deb, not .rpm. which makes it not advisable to use rpm packages
[12:01] <somiran> i mean to say as in window we can load new application from cd in ubuntu how can do that
[12:04] <somiran> let i have not installed amarok and i have a cd of knoppix which already have amarok as extra can i install that in my ubuntu
[12:05] <somiran> jucato?
[12:05] <emilsedgh> somiran: no, not possible
[12:06] <somiran> why
[12:06] <somiran> as both of this distro use same package manager
[12:07] <ChasingVertigo> somiran: My guess is that it come precompiled for knoppix on the livecd (without the source youd need to use to compile it for ubuntu)?
[12:08] <somiran> no its not live cd its a magazine cd with extra applications
[12:08] <lnx_> someone know where is this file :  .mplayer/gui.conf ?
[12:08] <llutz> lnx_: in your home-folder, hidden
[12:09] <somiran> how can i compile
[12:10] <lnx_> llutz , how i can view hidden ?
[12:10] <emilsedgh> somiran: why you want to compile? you can download already-compiled packages for ubuntu
[12:10] <somiran> help
[12:10] <llutz> lnx_: konquerer-view -show hidden
[12:10] <jussi01> lnx_: select show hidden files frome the view menu
[12:11] <jussi01> !compile | somiran
[12:11] <Ubotu> somiran: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:11] <Jucato> lnx_: or in Konqueror, just type ~/.mplayer/
[12:11] <Jucato> somiran: that cd from the magazine, does it contain another Linux distro? like KNOPPIX?
[12:11] <somiran> ya mepis
[12:12] <Jucato> then use that. are you sure the cd doesn't have a .deb package for java?
[12:13] <somiran> not so sure
[12:14] <Jucato> try it. or try mepis. but if it has mepis, which is also Debian-based (uses .deb's), it should have .deb packages
[12:15] <ChasingVertigo> I'm trying to get nvidia 3d acceleration working on Kubuntu, would I be more likely to succeed by installing nvidia-glx-new in Adept, or running the nvidia driver file from thier website?
[12:16] <Jucato> depends on your video card, you might need nvidia-glx-legacy, nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new
[12:16] <Jucato> !nvidia | ChasingVertigo
[12:16] <Ubotu> ChasingVertigo: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:22] <ChasingVertigo> Should I use nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new (That guide doesnt reference nvidia-glx-new)?
[12:22] <Jucato> depends on your video card
[12:22] <ChasingVertigo> 8500GT
[12:23] <Jucato> you're on feisty right?
[12:23] <ChasingVertigo> Kubuntu Feisty yeah
[12:23] <ChasingVertigo> * 7.04
[12:26] <Jucato> looks like nvidia-glx-new... but according to nvidia.com, you need the 100 driver, which is only in gutsy...
[12:26] <ChasingVertigo> Does it come with gutsy?
[12:27] <Jucato> !info nvidia-glx-new gutsy
[12:27] <Ubotu> nvidia-glx-new: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'new' driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 100.14.11+2.6.22.3-11.3 (gutsy), package size 4870 kB, installed size 14800 kB
[12:27] <Jucato> http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/100.14.11/README/appendix-a.html that's the driver that supports your card
[12:27] <Jucato> !info nvidia-glx-new feisty-backports
[12:27] <Ubotu> Package nvidia-glx-new does not exist in feisty-backports
[12:27] <Jucato> !info nvidia-glx-new feisty
[12:27] <Ubotu> nvidia-glx-new: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'new' driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 1.0.9755+2.6.20.5-16.29 (feisty), package size 4719 kB, installed size 14400 kB
[12:28] <Jucato> 9755 is the latest in feisty, but it might work. not really sure
[12:30] <ChasingVertigo> Okay, I'll try with feisty, and if it fails upgrade to gutsy
[12:30] <ChasingVertigo> Thankyou for helping me
[12:33] <jussi01> hmmm, is there some documentation about getting the fingerprint reader to work on my hp lappy?
[12:33] <jussi01> !wireless
[12:33] <Ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:34] <combinio> is there any program in linux alike to Windows Movie Maker ?
[12:34] <jussi01> combinio: kdenlive
[12:34] <combinio> jussi01: thx
[12:34] <jussi01> its not in the repos yet though
[12:34] <combinio> !info denlive
[12:34] <Ubotu> Package denlive does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[12:34] <combinio> !info kdenlive
[12:34] <Ubotu> Package kdenlive does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[12:34] <jussi01> !info kdenlive gutsy
[12:34] <Ubotu> kdenlive: A Non-Linear Video Editing Suite for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5-0.0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 648 kB, installed size 1992 kB
[12:35] <jussi01> there you are
[12:35] <combinio> jussi01: but i have Fesity :/
[12:35] <jussi01> combinio: go find trevinhos repo, i think he has it
[12:35] <combinio> kub-7.04 and not Gutsy :}
[12:35] <jussi01> !trevinho
[12:35] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trevinho - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:35] <jussi01> gah
[12:36] <lnx_> there is something liek mozilla-mplayer for firefox but with kaffeine instead mplayer ?
[12:37] <jussi01> !info kaffeine-mozilla | lnx_
[12:37] <Ubotu> lnx_: kaffeine-mozilla: mozilla plugin that lanches kaffeine for supported media types. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.3.1.dfsg-0.1 (feisty), package size 25 kB, installed size 136 kB
[12:38] <jussi01> lnx_: is that what you were looking for?
[12:39] <lnx_> jussi01 , close to this , i can set it to open the video in the browser ?
[12:40] <jussi01> lnx_: I cant remember. Jucato you around?
[12:40] <lnx_> jussi01 , i dont care what just not mplayer with mozilla-mplayer plugin
[12:41] <jussi01> lnx_: so uninstall that, and install kaffeine-mozilla
[12:42] <lnx_> jussi01 , yes this is waht i did but it open it external , i want it embed its posiblle ?
[12:42] <jussi01> lnx_: im not sure.
[12:56] <combinio> where can i order CDs with Kubuntu 7.10 GG ??
[12:56] <combinio> is that CD available already ?
[12:57] <combinio> ( i just want to have an oryginal CD )
[01:01] <judgen> !nvidia
[01:01] <Ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:02] <shanky> hi, I have tried to update my system using adept, but it required to restart kdm
[01:03] <shanky> and after the restart adept tell me that the apt database is blocked so I can't continue the update
[01:03] <shanky> any idea?
[01:03] <vistakiller> reboot your system
[01:03] <vistakiller> and try again
[01:03] <vistakiller> give in terminal
[01:03] <vistakiller> sudo apt-get update
[01:06] <hochimoo> when I am navigating around, firebug seems to be preventing the page from being displayed. I have to click on firebug or fiddle with it in some way for the page to be displayed
[01:38] <crazy_bus> I've got a ogg theora video which I'm trying to play in kaffeine.  But while the audio is fine the video is really jerky.  Why is this and how can I fix it?
[01:40] <JuJuBee> anybody ever use clonezilla?
[01:42] <dacorr> i would try xmms to see if it is jerky in all playes or just kafine
[01:42] <dacorr> if it is all then its the codecs, unless your playing from a cd
[01:45] <lounge-about> =/
[01:45] <lounge-about> anyone know anything about seting up an sql db?
[01:45] <crazy_bus> ogg theora is video.  So I don't think xmms plays it
[01:46] <emilsedgh> lounge-about: whats the problem?
[01:46] <lounge-about> heres the sittuation
[01:46] <lounge-about> ive setup my LAMP server
[01:46] <emilsedgh> go on lounge-about
[01:46] <lounge-about> and im trying to setup IPB forums as well
[01:47] <emilsedgh> and...
[01:47] <lounge-about> but when it ask for the sql info and stuff i dont have an answer for it
[01:47] <lounge-about> because i dont have a database made yet
[01:47] <emilsedgh> lounge-about: username is root (when you install it)
[01:47] <lounge-about> ...because i dont know how or what to use to make it
[01:47] <emilsedgh> lounge-about: password is nothing, leave it blank
[01:48] <emilsedgh> lounge-about: is it asking about database name?
[01:48] <lounge-about> ya
[01:48] <emilsedgh> lounge-about: so do this in kosnole
[01:49] <emilsedgh> mysql -u root
[01:49] <emilsedgh> CREATE DATABASE yourDatabaseName;
[01:49] <emilsedgh> lounge-about: then yourDatabaseName will the name of database :)
[01:49] <lounge-about> hmmk
[01:50] <lounge-about> and so when it ask to connect to it..
[01:50] <emilsedgh> localhost
[01:50] <lounge-about> this is everything its asking for:
[01:50] <lounge-about> SQL Host:localhost
[01:51] <lounge-about>   Database Name:
[01:51] <lounge-about>   SQL Username:
[01:51] <lounge-about>   SQL Password:
[01:51] <lounge-about>   SQL Table Prefix:ibf_
[01:51] <lounge-about>   MySQL Table Type
[01:51] <lounge-about> Use MyISAM if
[01:51] <lounge-about> ok
[01:51] <jussi01> !enter
[01:51] <Ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:51] <jussi01> and
[01:51] <emilsedgh> lounge-about: i told you about Host, Database Name, username and password, do not touch the others
[01:51] <jussi01> !paste
[01:51] <Ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:52] <lounge-about> ok, let me try this and see what happens
[01:55] <lounge-about> once i do the CREATE DATABASE dbname
[01:55] <lounge-about> it returns me to a --> line
[01:55] <lounge-about> like its waiting for something else
[01:55] <emilsedgh> lounge-about: ;
[01:56] <emilsedgh> lounge-about: put a semi-colon (;) and enter :)
[01:56] <lounge-about> syntax error
[01:56] <emilsedgh> lounge-about: there should be a semicolon in the end of every SQL command
[01:56] <emilsedgh> CREATE DATABASE name;
[01:57] <emilsedgh> do this, do not forget the ; at the end of the line
[01:57] <lounge-about> ok there we go
[01:58] <lounge-about> i think maybe i hit spacebar or something the first time...oh well, "Query ok"
[01:59] <lounge-about> sweet progress!
[02:00] <emilsedgh> lounge-about: yes, but if you want an easier way, install phpmyadmin
[02:01] <emilsedgh> lounge-about: thats in repositories
[02:01] <lounge-about> i did
[02:01] <lounge-about> and mysqladmin
[02:01] <lounge-about> and 1 other i believe
[02:02] <emilsedgh> lounge-about: but using the mysqlclient from command-line should be the best, learns you how to use SQL commands :)
[02:02] <gustavo> pgadmin3
[02:03] <lounge-about> success!
[02:04] <gustavo> lounge-about: you need the ";" on the end of commands, otherwise sql doesnt knows ur command has ended
[02:04] <lounge-about> gotcha
[02:04] <lounge-about> i got to work guys
[02:04] <lounge-about> thankyou
[02:04] <lounge-about> the forums are now up and running
[02:05] <hochimoo> when I am navigating around, firebug seems to be preventing the page from being displayed. I have to click on firebug or fiddle with it in some way for the page to be displayed
[02:05] <lounge-about> and accessible from outside my network
[02:05] <gustavo> hochimoo: so? it doesnt seems to a question
[02:05] <emilsedgh> lounge-about: oh!
[02:05] <emilsedgh> lounge-about: so, you have to change the username and password :)
[02:06] <lnx_> in konq how i can make the folder always be before the files ?
[02:06] <lounge-about> for security reasons....yes that would be smart idea
[02:06] <hochimoo> gustavo eh?
[02:06] <emilsedgh> lnx_: View->sort->Foders First :)
[02:07] <lounge-about> but i think i can take it from here
[02:07] <lounge-about> if not...lol ill back XD
[02:07] <emilsedgh> :P
[02:08] <emilsedgh> lnx_: please try to find things, if you didnt find, we will be happy to tell you
[02:09] <gustavo> hochimoo: if you want help, be objective
[02:09] <lnx_> emilsedgh , strange i dont find it , maybe its because i use "list view" ?
[02:10] <emilsedgh> yes, thats the reason, but folders are first in list view, at least for me
[02:11] <emilsedgh> lnx_: ah, click on the File type column, button
[02:15] <ryaren> hi
[02:15] <ryaren> Which DC client do you offer?
[02:29] <wittfella> Hello, how do I let a normal user mount a drive? i added 'user' to the fstab line, but ut keeps saying must be root.  mounts fine when root.
[02:30] <emilsedgh> wittfella: you could change pemissions from systemSettings->Advanced->Disks & filesystems
[02:32] <wittfella> hey emilsedgh, its a smbfs to my windows drive, so its not listed in filesystems yet
[02:32] <emilsedgh> wittfella: so i dunno
[02:32] <fkm> Did someone here ever use KFileReplace?
[02:35] <hanz> how do i get nvidia drivers on kde, i was told "restricted drivers", but isn't that just in gnome?
[02:36] <lucky_lucas> It's in kubuntu gutsy
[02:37] <hanz> is it poss to upgarde to that and is it ok to use?
[02:39] <Jucato> !nvidia
[02:39] <Ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:40] <sander_> How can I change the settings of KNetworkManager back from "Manual network configuration" to the state where it automaticly picks the best connection?
[02:40] <lucky_lucas> Gutsy is risky to use now
[02:40] <Jucato> well not really,... been using gusty since tribe 5
[02:40] <Jucato> pre-tribe 5
[02:41] <lucky_lucas> Hehe me too, but there are some surprise though read the forum.
[02:41] <hanz> how do i up to gusty then?
[02:42] <lucky_lucas> Are you shure you want to up to gutsy ?
[02:43] <Jucato> just for nvidia? :)
[02:43] <lucky_lucas> there is something like update-manager -d or something like that to enable the jump to gutsy fon't what  exactly it is
[02:44] <lucky_lucas> please read : dont' know what exactly
[02:44] <hanz> the must be other resons to up to it, i don't mind a bit of messing around, been on gnome for a while and got bored
[02:45] <lucky_lucas> but you can get restricted manager in feisty too
[02:45] <Jucato> but with the GNOME/Ubuntu dependencies only
[02:45] <lucky_lucas> you can look for restricted-manager in adept
[02:45] <lucky_lucas> or aptitude
[02:46] <lucky_lucas> That's why I installed ubuntu-desktop to enable it
[02:48] <hanz> sound, ill give it a spin, cheers
[02:49] <genii> Jucato: Thank you very much sir :)
[02:49] <Jucato> welcome very much :)
[02:52] <genii> I guess I should have brought enough for everyone :) Although today only TimBits
[02:52] <ScorpKing> hi genii!
[02:52] <genii> ScorpKing: Hiya
[02:53] <ScorpKing> have fun. g2g :(
[02:58] <BluesKaj> howdy All  :)
[02:58] <BluesKaj> Need Coffee!
[02:59] <Jucato> happy? :)
[03:03] <genii> I dunno why I'm in such a good mood today. the weather kinda sucks and it's the middle of the week
[03:03] <BluesKaj> genii, thx :)
[03:04] <genii> BluesKaj: Anytime
[03:04] <BluesKaj> nice here sunny and clear, but a bit cool 12C
[03:05] <genii> It's getting sunny here now. but earlier was grey, windy and you could see your breath.
[03:05] <BluesKaj> that reminds me, gotta go uncover my tomatoes
[03:05] <genii> the CBC tells me it's snowing somewhere between Manitoba and Ontario
[03:06] <ksivaji> genii hi
[03:07] <BluesKaj> up around cochrane , genii
[03:13] <genii> ksivaji: Hi
[03:13] <BluesKaj> Good! the .ca repos are back up and running
[03:13] <genii> Alrite!
[03:14] <genii> ksivaji: Did you get the RAM thing figured out?
[03:15] <ksivaji> genii no i dont find any option in BIOS to change that
[03:15] <genii> ksivaji: Likely you do not have onboard video card then.
[03:15] <ksivaji> ho
[03:17] <ksivaji> you mean i have a separate vedio card
[03:17] <BluesKaj> ksivaji, did you do a " lspci | grep video " to find your video controller ?
[03:18] <ksivaji> BluesKaj i am not getting any output for  lspci | grep video
[03:18] <BluesKaj> bummer
[03:19] <Jucato> lspci | grep -i vga
[03:19] <BluesKaj> ahha
[03:19] <ksivaji> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. S3 Unichrome Pro VGA Adapter (rev 01)
[03:20] <Jucato> it's an IGP I think
[03:20] <BluesKaj> right jucato, was wondering , the grep video shows my tv tuner card ...video is onboard
[03:20] <ksivaji> BluesKaj what ?
[03:22] <BluesKaj> ksivaji, the lspci grep video command only shows my TV tuner card , not this card which is onboard :VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 [Radeon Xpress 200G Series] 
[03:23] <BluesKaj> so Jucato's suggestion: lspci | grep -i vga is the correct one for onboard video detection
[03:23] <Jucato> he already pasted the output :)
[03:23] <Jucato> it's an S3 (onboard)
[03:24] <ksivaji> i have vedio card right ? still my system doesnt supports games why ?
[03:26] <Jucato> your video card is onboard/IGP, which means it shares/eats a part of your RAM. second, I don't think S3 has 3D hardware acceleration, which most games require
[03:26] <BluesKaj> Jucato, yes , but i just wanted make it clear , since he asked me, (what ?)
[03:26] <Jucato> I have an S3 as well. but I haven't used it since the day I bought a real video card :)
[03:26] <genii> The unichrome cards are one of the oddball cards for drivers. There is an openchrome driver but it's flakey. The default X unichrome driver I have heard has issues also
[03:26] <Jucato> (which was 2 years ago?)
[03:27] <Jucato> I think I've only tried to use my unichrome in Linux once and only once
[03:27] <Jucato> and I never tried to look for 3D acceleration
[03:27] <xdemon> hi all!
[03:27] <xdemon> can't set russian keyboard
[03:28] <xdemon> who can help me?
[03:29] <Jucato> !ru
[03:29] <Ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[03:32] <jussi01> !adeptfix
[03:32] <Ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[03:33] <genii> x-demon: Use the method for Debian Sarge here for changing keyboard and language: http://www.thoughtpolice.co.uk/vmware/howto/1-minute-guide.html
[03:34] <genii> Hmm
[03:34] <genii> Heh further down the list there it actually has 7.04 which i did not see at first LOL
[03:35] <Jucato> tsk tsk.. someone needs more coffee :)
[03:37] <gustavo>  i have a link on "applications menu" that doesnt work, how can i solve this? any kind of symbolic link on "/usr/share/applications" or something like it?
[03:40] <poison--> morning
[03:41] <Jucato> er.. morning :)
[03:41] <thomas1> the only way to configure openssh-server is to do it through console or text file? NO GUI?
[03:43] <gustavo> you are not on windows hehe
[03:45] <ksivaji> !emerge
[03:45] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emerge - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:47] <genii> ksivaji: emerge is more a gentoo-ism
[03:48] <sander_> Can KDE4 Beta 2 show the replacement of kicker?
[03:48] <sander_> I only get two of those grey boxes
[03:48] <emilsedgh> sander_: no
[03:49] <sander_> emilsedgh: k... clear :)
[03:49] <sander_> so not useable at all for a beta
[03:49] <chtren> ?
[03:49] <emilsedgh> sander_: 1)Kicker Replacement becomes functional after the Beta2 release 2)Plasma is not being developed in playground, which means will not included in default, it should be moved into trunk in for Beta3, I think
[03:50] <emilsedgh> sander_: I hope that Beta3 will include a functional Plasma
[03:50] <sander_> emilsedgh: okay.. so I'll continue to work with KDE3 till then :)
[03:51] <emilsedgh> sander_: Im waiting for Beta3 to 'try' to work with it as the main desktop
[03:51] <Jucato> sander_, emilsedgh: the rest of the plasmoids are in trunk/playground/base/plasma but the kicker replacement isn't complete yet
[03:51] <hydrogen>  no
[03:51] <hydrogen> well
[03:51] <hydrogen> yea
[03:51] <Jucato> all it has is a KDE icon, taskbar, and clock
[03:51] <hydrogen> I misread what you said
[03:51] <hydrogen> :)
[03:51] <Jucato> :)
[03:51] <emilsedgh> Jucato: playground is not being packaged
[03:51] <Jucato> emilsedgh: yes it isn't
[03:52] <ksivaji> genii what is ism
[03:52] <Jucato> at least not by Kubuntu
[03:52] <Jucato> genii: haha! :P
[03:52] <emilsedgh> Jucato: AFAIK, suse guys didnt make packages for it too
[03:52] <genii> ksivaji: ism in the ay I meant there is like a way of thinking,eg: gentoo thinking
[03:52] <genii> or habit etc
[03:53] <Jucato> a noun-forming suffix: changes the root word into a system of thought, a way of looking at things, or a worldview. www.summit.org/resource/dictionary/
[03:54] <Jucato> genii: next time don't expect everyone speaks/understands good Engrish :P
[03:55] <genii> Jucato: Very true, assuming things is occasionally dangerous
[03:55] <Jucato> genii: you also run the risk of losing the joke :)
[03:56] <BluesKaj> yeah , like the word impact ...never was a verb until the californai spin doctors started using it
[03:56] <genii> hmm
[03:56] <BluesKaj> or should i say caliph-ornia
[03:59] <BluesKaj> anyway . I'm still looking for an  IPtrace app that actually works ...xtraceroute gives up too easily and there's no way of really configuring it
[04:01] <BluesKaj> wish neotrace could be ported/written for linux or whatever theproper term is.
[04:15] <gundam_rx78nt1> How can I change my default kdm login screen? I want to change the background from the default Kubuntu blue to something else...
[04:15] <lounge-about> kdmsetup
[04:17] <gundam_rx78nt1> is that an application?
[04:17] <ubuser> how do i mount a hard drive from ubuntu livecd
[04:18] <emilsedgh> gundam_rx78nt1: run it!
[04:18] <lounge-about> sorry gundam it may not work...i was thinking gdmsetup for gnome
[04:18] <ubuser> i need to create some partitions by fdisk /dev/hdb but it doesn't work
[04:18] <emilsedgh> gundam_rx78nt1: systemSettings->Advanced
[04:19] <lnx_> how i can instal Pidgin on kubuntu ( not gaim ) ?
[04:19] <emilsedgh> gundam_rx78nt1: then go to the Login manager
[04:19] <gundam_rx78nt1> because I went and made changes on the settings control panel for kde. It still shows the darn blue login screen.
[04:19] <gundam_rx78nt1> emilsedgh, I am using kubuntu.
[04:19] <llutz> lnx_: compile it from source or install the .deb from getdeb.net
[04:20] <emilsedgh> gundam_rx78nt1: systemSettings->Advanced->Login Manager, in Kubuntu
[04:20] <lnx_> llutz , i cant add source to adept or something like this ?
[04:20] <gundam_rx78nt1> I did make the changes there. It will still show the blue login page, once I log in, it shows the background wallpaper I selected but that is not
[04:20] <gundam_rx78nt1> what I would like to do.
[04:21] <gundam_rx78nt1> I want to change the default blue background on the login page.
[04:27] <poison--> weird stuff
[04:27] <lnx_> i have an "konversation" shortcut icon on desktop and the word is warp like "conversati" new line and then "on" how i can able my desktop to have along shortcut names ?
[04:27] <poison--> dlin linux_mce-dvd, its 3.75GB with ktorrent
[04:28] <poison--> it says its already at 3.76GBs and contiues to dl
[04:29] <gundam_rx78nt1> emilsedgh, is there anywhere else to change the login screen on kubuntu?  I know there ways to change it on gnome in ubuntu, but I would really like to get rid of the default blue background login screen.
[04:30] <emilsedgh> gundam_rx78nt1: you could change it from systemSettings->Advanced->Login Manager->Background, I dunno whats the problem?
[04:32] <gundam_rx78nt1> emilsedgh, I have made changes in the Login manager. It doesn't change the background on the login screen. It shows up with the default kubuntu login. after I login, it then show the background I wanted but just momentarily until the default splash screen appears.
[04:32] <elvis> hey
[04:33] <emilsedgh> gundam_rx78nt1: sorry i dunno then, maybe you should file a bug report ?
[04:33] <genii> gundam_rx78nt1: replace in file /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/kubuntu/kubuntu.xml <normal file="/usr/share/wallpapers/kubuntu-wallpaper.png" /> with <normal file="/my/path/to/mycustombackground.png" />
[04:34] <genii> or comment out the line
[04:34] <gundam_rx78nt1> genii, let me try that.
[04:35] <BFC> hi! can anybody recommend a plain text editor that can compare two documents?
[04:35] <BFC> I need it to compare to .php files
[04:35] <genii> gundam_rx78nt1: Remember xml comment syntax is <!
[04:36] <emilsedgh> BFC: kdiff, i think
[04:36] <BFC> emilsedgh: ok. i'll check it out
[04:36] <emilsedgh> kdiff3, BFC :)
[04:37] <BFC> thanks!!
[04:42] <luh> hi
[04:42] <luh> when trying to resize my monitor in the system settings, and i push apply afterwards, it is always set to the lowest again after reopening of the program
[04:43] <luh> what am i doing wrong?
[04:43] <poison--> nutin, your card just dont take it
[04:43] <poison--> like mine here
[04:43] <BluesKaj> luh are you using admin mode ?
[04:43] <luh> BluesKaj, yes
[04:43] <poison--> im usin 800x600 (sic) cause theres no drivers for it
[04:43] <poison--> it sucks
[04:43] <damian> espacio linux
[04:44] <damian> espacio-linux
[04:44] <luh> and it doesn't matter which one i set it to, 800x600 or 1024x768
[04:44] <BluesKaj> luh , so you have your monitor drivers setup to your make and model , just like one does for the graphics card ?
[04:45] <luh> yep
[04:45] <ksivaji> how to enable direct rendering
[04:46] <BluesKaj> luh, sometimes a relogin will reset the settings to your last preferences
[04:47] <luh> but why?
[04:47] <BluesKaj> X needs to be reset , not sure
[04:49] <luh> but it doesn't even go that far that i reload the x
[04:49] <luh> it just doesn't save the configuration of that i set in system setting
[04:49] <luh> +s
[04:50] <gundam_rx78nt1> genii, thank you. that is what I wanted to do.
[04:50] <gundam_rx78nt1> I owe you a drink.
[04:52] <BluesKaj> luh,have reloggged in ?...try it
[04:52] <luh> BluesKaj, yes
[04:53] <luh> but if the data doesn't get saved in the first place it doesn't help me
[04:53] <genii> gundam_rx78nt1: Glad to help
[04:53] <luh> so first the data needs to get saved, than the x server restarted
[04:53] <luh> but i have no clue wtf it doesn'T save my data
[04:53] <luh> which file would i need to edit by hand?
[04:56] <Devious_> hi all
[04:56] <emilsedgh> !hi | Devious_
[04:56] <Ubotu> Devious_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[05:00] <ksivaji> !grub
[05:00] <Ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:04] <ksivaji> how to mount a iso file
[05:04] <ksivaji> !iso
[05:04] <Ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[05:04] <llutz> ksivaji: sudo mount -o loop file.iso /mnt
[05:05] <ksivaji> llutz thanks
[05:07] <Azzco> Konqueror keeps crashing for me and isn't giving me any errors in the console...
[05:08] <BluesKaj> luh , I guess if you reconfigure xserver-xorg file with different monitor and graphics card driver settings , the changes may stick , but sometimes that can be risky if you don't know what range settings the monitor can handle
[05:08] <luh> i'll try randr
[05:09] <luh> i did already try dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[05:09] <BluesKaj> what driver is the monitor using
[05:10] <csanders> im having a hell of a time getting hardware acceleration to work with my ATI card, Ive tried dozens of tut's, nothing is seeming to work, when I run glxgears, it says DRI is not working
[05:10] <csanders> does anyone have fglrx ATI dual monitor Kubuntu system running ?
[05:10] <csanders> Logs:
[05:10] <csanders> [drm]  failed to load kernel module "fglrx"
[05:10] <csanders> (WW) fglrx(0): Failed to open DRM connection
[05:11] <BluesKaj> csanders, have you tried this tutorial :http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty
[05:11] <csanders> no, but I will try again
[05:12] <BluesKaj> csanders, it uses a patched and modded fglrx driver which provides3D and DRI for most Radeon pci and onboard cards
[05:12] <csanders> it took me forever to get dual monitors, im almost afraid to mess it up now :(
[05:12] <csanders> oh sweet
[05:12] <csanders> thats what i have ;)
[05:12] <BluesKaj> which card csanders?
[05:13] <csanders> radeon 1300
[05:13] <csanders> but this is amd64 :(
[05:13] <BluesKaj> the tutorial works for my X200G onboard
[05:14] <BluesKaj> uhoh
[05:14] <csanders> yea, amd64 is a huge PITA, I wont be going that route again
[05:14] <BluesKaj> don't think it'll work
[05:15] <luh> BluesKaj, i can't check
[05:15] <luh> the computer is not in my town, and the person isn't there any more
[05:15] <BluesKaj> i havw AMD 64 as well , but running 32bit x86 after too many probs with the 64bit version
[05:17] <BluesKaj> luh, ok so you aren't doing a remote pc setup ?
[05:17] <luh> i haven't been able to give him dyndns yet. the important part is the yet ;)
[05:19] <srcnix> Hi all, does anyone have any experience in installing Kubuntu on a Inspiron 9400?
[05:21] <Daisuke_Ido> allow me, if i may, to vent for a moment
[05:21] <Daisuke_Ido> there is a section in the forums for ubuntu dell support.  that's for the friggin dells sold with ubuntu, not any old retarded dell you want!
[05:21] <savetheWorld> go ahead
[05:22] <Daisuke_Ido> now
[05:22] <Daisuke_Ido> srcnix: is that a newer model?
[05:22] <Daisuke_Ido> possibly the livecd won't work?
[05:22] <savetheWorld> Daisuke_Ido: Linux has been getting installed on Inspirons for a looooooong time  already.
[05:23] <Daisuke_Ido> savetheWorld: yeah, and that's fine, but the dell support forum is for machines sold with ubuntu that are specifically built TO support ubuntu
[05:24] <savetheWorld> Daisuke_Ido: yes and thats fine too.  i just didnt see anything here where srcnix was doing anything in that forum. he asking in here wherer its on topic.  afaik.
[05:26] <Daisuke_Ido> savetheWorld: that's the unrelated venting part
[05:26] <savetheWorld> oh, Ok then! :-)
[05:26] <Daisuke_Ido> and then i went back to try and help him by asking a couple questions :)
[05:26] <savetheWorld> and he steadfastly ignored you, the little bugger!
[05:26] <csanders> BluesKaj:  how do you run x86 on 64 , is their a distro for it ?
[05:27] <Daisuke_Ido> csanders: what?
[05:28] <srcnix> Daisuke_Ido, Yes it is, sorry for the short reply.
[05:28] <csanders> BluesKaj: said he had alot of problems with running amd64 and now hers just running 32 bit apps, im wondering how do do that Daisuke_Ido
[05:28] <Daisuke_Ido> intel core 2 duo...  santa rosa?
[05:28] <srcnix> Daisuke_Ido, The problem is the live install CD doesn't work.
[05:28] <srcnix> Daisuke_Ido, Indeed
[05:28] <srcnix> Daisuke_Ido, So I was wondering if the alternative CD would work.
[05:28] <Daisuke_Ido> srcnix: you're going to have to install from the altcd
[05:29] <srcnix> Daisuke_Ido, ;) Gotcha! ;)
[05:29] <Daisuke_Ido> this *should* be fixed with gutsy, but it's a known problem with the santa rosa
[05:29] <Daisuke_Ido> csanders: you just install the 32 bit version
[05:29] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm using the 32 bit version on an amd64
[05:30] <Daisuke_Ido> all of your 32 bit OSes/software will still run on a 64 bit processor, since x64 is juat an extension to the x86 architecture
[05:31] <BluesKaj> csanders, I reinstalled 32bit but there is a script (I found this out after the fact) that allows one to run as 32bit on the 64 bit version .... anyone know what it i't called?
[05:32] <BluesKaj> Daisuke_Ido, unfortunately not all, some drivers won't work on the 64 that work on 32
[05:35] <Daisuke_Ido> really?
[05:35] <Daisuke_Ido> i haven't found any
[05:36] <Daisuke_Ido> i would think that a 32 bit driver would work on a 32 bit OS, even if that OS is running on a 64 bit processor...
[05:36] <aguitel> when i restard or shutdown my laptop my video gets uggly ,anyone know about this ?
[05:39] <kaminix3> How do I enable conversation logging in Kopete?
[05:40] <Jucato> kaminix3: go to Settings -> Configure Plugins -> History plugin. it's enabled by default, but actually disabled. so uncheck it first, then click Apply, then check it, and click Apply again
[05:40] <kaminix3> Thanks Jucato :)
[05:42] <kaminix3> And where will my logs be saved?
[05:42] <somiran> what does .deb file mean
[05:42] <kaminix3> somiran: Debian Package, the format used by apt.
[05:42] <genii> somiran: .deb is short for debia.
[05:42] <genii> debian
[05:42] <genii> bah typos
[05:43] <somiran> ok
[05:43] <genii> kaminix3: Thanks LOL
[05:43] <somiran> knoppix has it ?
[05:43] <Jucato> kaminix3: you can view them through Kopete. right-click on the contact and select View History
[05:43] <kaminix3> Knoppix has a file manager?
[05:43] <genii> Distributions which came from debian use this, knoppix is one of those
[05:43] <llutz> somiran: all debian-based distros have it
[05:43] <Jucato> oh him again :)
[05:44] <somiran> how can i install a application from knoppix cd to my ubuntu withoput downloading it from ubuntu as my speed is very slow
[05:45] <poison--> everytime i try to axx the share of my kubuntu machine with a windows pc, it asks me for a username and pwd
[05:45] <poison--> any ideas where i setup dat
[05:45] <somiran> sorry jucato but i really need help that time i have some patien to attend
[05:45] <somiran> some patient
[05:46] <llutz> somiran: that hardly woould work, knoppix packages are made for knoppix and not ubuntu. their dependencies etc. will fail on most other distros
[05:47] <genii> somiran: Using .deb files from a different distribution like knoppix for instance is not recommended.
[05:47] <somiran> is there any other way to install apllication in ubuntu without internet
[05:48] <Jucato> genii: basic background. he has a slow internet. he needs to install stuff from a cd he got from a pc magazine
[05:48] <genii> Jucato: OK thanks :)
[05:48] <Jucato> earlier he was asking about installing an .rpm for java from that cd
[05:48] <poison--> lol
[05:49] <genii> somiran: If the application is on the ubuntu install cdrom you can install it. there is a command apt-cdrom for this, to add a cdrom to the list of repositories ubuntu looks
[05:49] <somiran> yes i have told that but as i am new so i am wondering
[05:50] <genii> somiran: If you have faster internet another place, you can download the .deb files that way and then put them after into /var/cache/apt/archives    on the box without internet to install them as well
[05:50] <Delrin500> how can i have my linux machine automount a NTFS usb drive? I installed Automatix but it still doesn't work anyone have any ideas?
[05:50] <genii> !automatix
[05:51] <Ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[05:51] <poison--> u should try diskmounter
[05:51] <poison--> !diskmounter
[05:51] <Ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[05:51] <Delrin500> diskmounter? is that easy to use?
[05:51] <poison--> yep
[05:52] <poison--> no worrys
[05:53] <Delrin500> hell thanks guys... i didn't think it would be so easy to get info
[05:53] <somiran> thank u genii
[05:53] <genii> somiran: Good luck and you are welcome
[05:53] <Delrin500> anyone know how to get Firefox to be my default browser  instead of Konqueror
[05:54] <evans> hi Derlin
[05:55] <Delrin500> hello evans
[05:55] <Delrin500> how is it going?
[05:56] <evans> im fine,i want to assist you
[05:56] <bibstha> hi all, whats the shortcut to switch keyboard layout? cant figure it out
[05:56] <Delrin500> ok
[05:56] <Delrin500> shoot
[05:56] <bibstha> also i looked into system settings and don't see where to set it
[05:56] <Delrin500> how do i change default browsers
[05:56] <poison--> within firefox configs
[05:56] <Jucato> bibstha: System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[05:57] <evans> you go to Preferences then Preferred applications
[05:57] <BluesKaj> Delrin500, sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[05:57] <Delrin500> it is a pain i don't use Konqueror very often and when ever i click on a link it opens using it instead of Firebox
[05:57] <Jucato> bibstha: default is Ctrl+Alt+K I think
[05:57] <evans> it will give u an option to change your defaults
[05:57] <Jucato> Delrin500: follow the command BluesKaj gave
[05:57] <bibstha> ctrl +alt + k works
[05:57] <bibstha> :) nice
[05:57] <Daisuke_Ido> evans: are you using kde or gnome?
[05:57] <Jucato> evans: the one in System Settings only affects KDE apps though
[05:57] <Delrin500> Blues>sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser         this is it???
[05:58] <bibstha> strange that layout addition was inside regional and language
[05:58] <evans> gnome
[05:58] <bibstha> but keyboard shortcut setting is at another place
[05:58] <Daisuke_Ido> this is #kubuntu.  kde users.
[05:58] <bibstha> Jucato, oh??
[05:58] <BluesKaj> Delrin500, you may also want to change your default browser in you IRC cliet, system settings/default applications, etc
[05:58] <Delrin500> Hell!!! thanks Blues that was super easy
[05:58] <Delrin500> you guys are awesome
[05:58] <Delrin500> thank you very much
[05:58] <Jucato> bibstha: Keyboard Layout is a regional setting. Keyboard shortcuts aren't
[05:59] <BluesKaj> hehe, yer welcome Delrin500
[05:59] <bibstha> Jucato, :-) just figured, thanks
[05:59] <Jucato> bibstha: it just so happens that you're looking for the keyboard shortcut to change keyboard layout :P
[05:59] <poison--> !samba
[05:59] <Ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:59] <bibstha> Jucato, can't help it but took a lot of time wasting in google
[05:59] <mefisto__> Delrin500: in system settings > default applications ?
[06:00] <Delrin500> i am a Windows admin and Linux is not my specialty so i appriecate the help...
[06:00] <bibstha> Jucato, anyway it can be done globally? while not in kde?
[06:00] <Jucato> bibstha: there's a search bar in System Settings too :)
[06:00] <Jucato> bibstha: nope. sorry. KDE only affects KDE
[06:00] <bibstha> aah
[06:00] <bibstha> scim is easy
[06:00] <bibstha> and works globally
[06:01] <Jucato> mefisto__: that way only affects KDE apps. If he were to click a link in a non-KDE app (GAIM/Pidgin or whatever) it would still launch in Konqi unless he changes the alternatives
[06:01] <bibstha> i wonder how its done with xkb
[06:01] <Jucato> bibstha: but scim is an app that is running. it has it's own shortcuts. the Ctrl+Alt+K is a shortcut for KDE. it wouldn't affect GNOME
[06:02] <bibstha> ooh,
[06:02] <bibstha> so no such app for xkb?
[06:02] <Jucato> wouldn't know. sorry
[06:03] <bibstha> Jucato, ooh no problem, but thanks again
[06:03] <poison--> can anyone help me axx my linux share trough a windows machine
[06:03] <poison--> lmao
[06:04] <bibstha> Jucato, i used to be on scim, i run openbox and strangely when im on kde apps, input sometimes automatically switches to xkb
[06:04] <genii> (to drink coffee from)
[06:04] <BluesKaj> hehe
[06:05] <evans> bye
[06:05] <BluesKaj> wife use old windows pc for her solitaire and surf/email ...it's 8 yrs old and still chugging along :)
[06:05] <poison--> in fact my issue is dat i dled linux mce dvd in this laptop, and its too slow to burn it, so i need to transfer it to the win machine
[06:05] <poison--> specs cant take it
[06:05] <poison--> :(
[06:05] <poison--> cant ask much from a VIA laptop lmao
[06:06] <genii> poison--: install samba. Then share the directory the iso is in.
[06:07] <neosix> hello people!!!
[06:07] <poison--> already did
[06:07] <poison--> amn thing keeps asking me for a username and pwd
[06:07] <poison--> i type the one i use for login in kubuntu and it doenst work
[06:08] <BluesKaj> genii, samba refuse me acces from wife's windows pc to the linux partition on this box ..the reverse is no prob and windows to windows works great
[06:08] <genii> poison--: if your kubuntu login is user do:      sudo smbpasswd -ae user
[06:08] <genii> poison--: Then make sure the iso is owned by that user as well
[06:08] <poison--> lemme try
[06:08] <Delrin500> should i use the experimental NTFS writting support? it is not reccomended, when installing diskmounter
[06:09] <Delrin500> ?
[06:09] <neosix> does anybody know some good mp3 organizer like "Where is it"?
[06:09] <BluesKaj> Delrin500, ntfs-3g ?
[06:10] <Delrin500> Blues> not sure it says "
[06:10] <Delrin500> As of Ubuntu 6.04 (Dapper Drake) there is slightly more NTFS writing support
[06:10] <Delrin500> through a very experimental NTFS FUSE module. Using this seems to work but
[06:10] <Delrin500> is NOT recommended.
[06:10] <poison--> wow.. it worked
[06:10] <poison--> lmao
[06:10] <poison--> thanks geii
[06:10] <poison--> genii even
[06:10] <genii> poison--: np. glad to be of help
[06:10] <BluesKaj> Delrin500, accessing windows partitions from linux , use ntfs-3g and ntfs config
[06:11] <BluesKaj> err ntfs-config
[06:11] <Delrin500> so diskmounter is not the way to go?
[06:11] <BluesKaj> dunno Delrin500 ...I've never used diskmounter
[06:12] <Delrin500> oh ok
[06:12] <BluesKaj> Delrin500, but I do know that ntfs-3g and ntfs-config allows me ato read/write to my windows parition apps
[06:13] <Delrin500> well i am going to give it a try and if it doesn't work I will use your reccomendation... I have already started installing it
[06:13] <Delrin500> is ntfs -3g the app or the command line script ?
[06:13] <BluesKaj> ok Delrin500 , let us know how that works out
[06:13] <sam1338> anybody know any sli motherboard names?
[06:13] <sam1338> quad sli i mean
[06:13] <genii> Delrin500: it's the app. ntfs-config the config tool you run after it installs
[06:13] <Jucato> genii: you need more coffee.. it's 6.06(.1)
[06:14] <mefisto__> Delrin500: ntfs-3g is great. it saved my ntfs disk that windows chkdsk screwed up and made inaccessible. ntfs-3g allowed me to access everything to back up data
[06:14] <genii> Jucato: Nah, you need the coffee LOL    "[12:10]  <Delrin500> As of Ubuntu 6.04 (Dapper Drake) there is slightly more NTFS writing suppor"
[06:15] <Jucato> haha oh yeah
[06:15] <Jucato> I need to scroll up more :)
[06:15] <BluesKaj> don't we all
[06:15] <jetsaredi1> where is the lock file that is used by the package management systems?
[06:15] <genii> !aptfix
[06:15] <Ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[06:15] <genii> In that place is the lock file
[06:16] <jetsaredi1> genii: thanks
[06:16] <ksivaji> please help me i tried to install widows after kubuntu .but i didnt complete windows installation ,i terminated installation after partitioning disk now i cant boot kubuntu grub says no such partition
[06:18] <ksivaji> genii  BluesKaj any suggestion
[06:19] <Jucato> !windows
[06:19] <Ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[06:19] <Jucato> !grub
[06:19] <Ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:19] <Jucato> first link ksivaji
[06:20] <ksivaji> but i didnt complete installation
[06:20] <poison--> lol@!windows
[06:20] <genii> ksivaji: Better to put windows first then ubuntu so grub doesn't bet wiped out by windows mbr
[06:20] <Jucato> ksivaji: yeah. but you need to recover GRUB nonetheless
[06:20] <Jucato> so you need that link
[06:20] <Jucato> let it be a lesson not to install windows
[06:20] <Jucato> hehe j/k
[06:21] <ksivaji> genii i dont want windows
[06:21] <genii> ksivaji: Because of the place you terminated the install, right after partitioning, it may be a bit tricky to recover from
[06:22] <kristjan_> is where a command that will "cd here?"
[06:22] <Jucato> kristjan_: cd .
[06:22] <Jucato> hmph
[06:22] <BluesKaj> ksivaji, download and and burn supergrub disk - bootloader restore disk ...itwill help you restore grub and mbr dfor windows
[06:23] <ksivaji> BluesKaj ya  i tried that also grub says no such partition
[06:23] <genii> ksivaji: Are you on a livecd right now?
[06:23] <ksivaji> but it is not acutally deleted i can see the / folders  from live cd
[06:24] <ksivaji> yes genii
[06:24] <Delrin500> one last question how do i set the detailed list view as the default view in Konqueror for browsing the file system?? the icons are really annoying
[06:24] <BluesKaj> I guess not, but you have testore the linux grub menu by using the disk , then you can retry reinstalling windows
[06:25] <BluesKaj> err ksivaji
[06:25] <ksivaji> BluesKaj err means
[06:25] <BluesKaj> you
[06:26] <BluesKaj> my last entry . ksivaji
[06:26] <genii> ksivaji: It may be useful for you to pastebin these things for us:     result of command    sudo fdisk -l         result of command   mount
[06:26] <genii> afk, cig.3-4 mins
[06:26] <BluesKaj> genii, ya gotta quit
[06:27] <mefisto__> Delrin500: the way I did it is in konqueror settings>file associations, expand inode and select directory. Then go to the Embedding tab and move the default view you want to the top of the list.
[06:27] <ksivaji> http://pastebin.com/m44a818b4
[06:27] <mefisto__> Delrin500: also, you might want to do the same for inode system_directory
[06:28] <ksivaji> genii Bluekaj my root partition was at /dev/hdb3 but it is in hdb2
[06:29] <Solifugus> Where is the printer job manager?
[06:29] <Jackal> ! flash
[06:29] <Ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[06:29] <ksivaji> :'(
[06:30] <ksivaji> genii Bluekay so
[06:31] <Delrin500> well thanks for all the help guys I really appriecate the time you put into this channel.... take care
[06:31] <mefisto__> Solifugus: in utilities menu (kjobviewer)
[06:33] <ksivaji> genii are you there ?
[06:34] <genii> back
[06:34] <BluesKaj> well, going on errands ,BBL
[06:35] <ksivaji> tell me what should i do
[06:35] <ksivaji> BluesKaj :P
[06:35] <Solifugus> mefisto__: thanks.. i looked in there but for some reason didn't see it.
[06:35] <genii> ksivaji: Let me go look at paste etc. Patience please :)
[06:35] <ksivaji> ok
[06:35] <mefisto__> Solifugus: happens to me all the time
[06:36] <genii> ksivaji: Ah, no paste in scroll
[06:36] <ksivaji> http://pastebin.com/m44a818b4
[06:36] <genii> OK reading
[06:38] <genii> ksivaji: So hdb2 is the old / then? Or maybe hdb5
[06:38] <genii> hdb6 rather
[06:38] <gabby> How to I remove a package via the command line, so that not only is the package gone, but all the config files, every last trace? with apt?
[06:38] <ksivaji> hdb is my current root partition
[06:38] <ksivaji> 2
[06:39] <genii> ksivaji OK, so you are getting a grub prompt at all or no right now?
[06:39] <genii> (when trying to boot)
[06:39] <poison--> gabby, why dont u find the file in adept and try "purging"
[06:40] <ksivaji> getting grub prompt
[06:40] <ksivaji> but grub says partition doesnt exist
[06:40] <ksivaji> genii:
[06:41] <poison--> lol
[06:41] <mefisto__> ksivaji: did you try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows and it didn't work?
[06:41] <genii> ksivaji OK good. So now please paste the old files fstab and menu.lst from grub. eg: /root/tmp/etc/fstab   and /root/tmp/boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:42] <ksivaji> mefisto_ this is differnt i am getting grub prompt
[06:42] <genii> ksivaji: It seems hard drives were physically rearranged possibly
[06:42] <gabby> poison--: it's a server system
[06:42] <mefisto__> ksivaji: it seems grub is not finding where your linux / root is.
[06:43] <ksivaji> exactly
[06:43] <gabby> but I can use purge with apt - so I'm saved!
[06:43] <ksivaji> cat: /root/tmp/etc/fstab: No such file or directory
[06:43] <ksivaji> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[06:44] <genii> ksivaji: sorry was temp not tmp  ...adjust accordingly
[06:44] <poison--> ups, my bad gabby
[06:44] <poison--> did it work gabby
[06:45] <bomber> hello folks
[06:46] <ksivaji> http://pastebin.com/m5f3e399f
[06:47] <bomber> the border of different windows in edgy with kde used to be adjustable but the other day i installed a bunch of games from the repositories and then when i booted the next day now the borders are back to being large and i cant seem to be able to change it
[06:47] <genii> ksivaji: OK reading. Will tell you changes shortly
[06:47] <trixon> Hi! Can someone here tell me where I change my computers 'identifier' for bluetooth?
[06:48] <ksivaji> trixon kmenu->system setting ->network
[06:48] <bomber> when i booted i got a window like when the initial setup took place
[06:48] <gabby> poison--: yeah, I'm in the clear!
[06:49] <poison--> sweet
[06:49] <trixon> ksivaji: no, not that, thats my computername, In ubuntu I was able to set a totally different name. Not in Kubuntu?
[06:50] <ksivaji> you have separate  channel called #ubuntu
[06:50] <trixon> Im running kubuntu now...
[06:53] <genii> ksivaji:First change: In the fstab. comment out line UUID=c41c400c-0723-4611-a36f-eac1a36e6028 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1    add under this a line: /dev/hdb2        / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1
[06:53] <ksivaji> ok
[06:56] <combinio> does anybody here know japanese language just a little ? ;P
[06:56] <ksivaji> genii done then
[06:56] <genii> ksivaji: In menu.lst change (hd0,2)  to (hd0,1)      and also change UUID=c41c400c-0723-4611-a36f-eac1a36e6028 to /dev/hdb2
[06:56] <ksivaji> ok
[06:57] <genii> ksivaji:WAIT
[06:57] <genii> ksivaji:(hd0,2) to (hd1,1)   rather
[06:58] <mefisto__> ksivaji: don't forget line 97 (as shown in pastebin)
[06:58] <ubuntu> Hi all
[06:59] <genii> mefisto__: Thanks, i had forgotten about that one
[06:59] <neosix> I need mp3 organizer. Does anybody know some?
[06:59] <mefisto__> grub actually does a pretty good job of doing all this for you
[07:00] <mefisto__> neosix: amarok?
[07:00] <combinio> no one knows japanese ? :/
[07:00] <genii> ksivaji: If grub fails again next boot,go again to menu.lst and change where we put now (hd1,1) into (hd1,2)
[07:00] <genii> work, back in a few minutes
[07:01] <neosix> mefisto: does it work like "Where is it"?
[07:02] <mefisto__> neosix: play around with amarok, you'll love it. it does plenty. you'll wonder how you lived without it
[07:02] <fkm> Hi there. Could someone give me a hint, on how to find help concerning a scanner? I got a "Canon CanoScan LiDE 20" and can't find a tutorial, which tells me how to install it
[07:02] <ksivaji> mefisto__ genii: i have only (hd0,2) no (hd1,1)
[07:02] <deviance> What photoshop replacements are avalibe for linux? I know of Gimp but thats about it
[07:02] <hydrogen> krita
[07:02] <neosix> mefisto: Thanks man, I'll try...
[07:02] <ksivaji> deviance gimp is best
[07:03] <hydrogen> krita is bester
[07:03] <hydrogen> tbh
[07:03] <ksivaji>  hydrogen gimp :-*
[07:04] <mefisto__> krita better than gimp?
[07:05] <genii> ksivaji: Yes, change everywhere it says  (hd0,2) into (hd1,1)
[07:05] <deviance> hydrogen gimp?
[07:05] <hydrogen> huh?
[07:06] <deviance> Oh sorry, Lol
[07:06] <deviance> I though that was the name of a gimp version like gimpshop xD
[07:07] <fkm> Any clues?
[07:07] <fkm> Nobody?
[07:07] <stoffer_> i need some help installing nvidia-kernel-2.6.20-16-generic.
[07:07] <deviance> !adeptlock
[07:07] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adeptlock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:07] <stoffer_> i try to get my nvidia card to work but that package is always giving complains and im not able to install it
[07:07] <mefisto__> fkm: have you tried checking to see if your scanner is supported?
[07:07] <deviance> How do I unlock adept again, I keeeeps crashing :(
[07:08] <deviance> !unlockadept
[07:08] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unlockadept - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:08] <fkm> Yes, I found a whole page dedicated to the subject that it works and how fine. But I didn't see a link to a HOWTO there :( http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php/product/1228
[07:08] <deviance> !adeptunlock
[07:08] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adeptunlock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:08] <deviance> pah
[07:09] <fkm> mefisto__: And that's the abut it concerning my luck with Google :(
[07:09] <genii> !aptfix
[07:09] <Ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[07:09] <deviance> Thats the one, thanks :P
[07:10] <fkm> mefisto__: I even find it in KInfoCenter and with USB Viewer
[07:10] <genii> deviance: np
[07:10] <fkm> mefisto__: But that's my first device I had to install on my own in Linux. So I don't know, where to start
[07:11] <ksivaji> genii:  i will reboot and come
[07:12] <deviance> HAH Gimp does actualy have a toilet paper option!
[07:16] <mefisto__> fkm: I haven't ever installed a scanner in linux, so someone else might be a better source of info. have you looked in ubuntu forums about installing scanners?
[07:17] <fkm> mefisto__  I found a page I'm looking through at the moment. And no, didn't check the forums directly. I'll do that afterwards. Thank you for your time! :)
[07:19] <poison--> i had luck with a lexmark x1290 with a scanner
[07:22] <Luismi> how i can see man pages with konkeror?
[07:23] <maverick__> weired problem, whenever i try to set my time to the new winter clock (EGYPT) it resets back to the summer daylight saving clock again as soon as i connect to the internet.....am using Kubuntu Feisty
[07:23] <Luismi> how i can see man pages with konkeror?
[07:23] <maverick__> i disabled the "Set date and time automatically"
[07:24] <Jucato> Luismi: man:/whatever
[07:24] <Jucato> and it's Konqueror :)
[07:25] <poison--> lol
[07:27] <Luismi> thanks Jucato
[07:29] <Kr4t05> What port does NFS typically use?
[07:29] <genii> I think 871
[07:30] <arash_> ok guys, really embarassin story here...
[07:31] <arash_> I dragged aroud the bottom bar with the windows and the 'K' on it to different sides, and when I dragged it to the right side, it just dissappeared :o, any ideas?
[07:32] <genii> maybe 2049
[07:34] <mefisto__> arash_: right-click the panel (the bottom bar) and "Add Applet to Panel..." If Kmenu is there, add it
[07:34] <Jucato> arash_: the whole panel (bar) disappeared?
[07:34] <arash_> mefisto__  the thing is that the bar disappeared
[07:35] <arash_> and I restarted X, but it seem to save the settings :p
[07:35] <Jucato> arash_: Alt+F2, "kcontrol", go to Desktop -> Panels. and set the position of the panel. It should reappear
[07:36] <arash_> Jucato, yay :)
[07:36] <Jucato> :P
[07:37] <Mike3> Someone please help, I just installed Kubuntu on my old laptop, by accident I did it in 1024x768 and my laptop only works on 800x600, I just set it to 640x480 in x.conf but it still loads at 1024x768
[07:37] <Mike3> How do I fix?
[07:39] <bucken> ?
[07:39] <bucken> anyone ?
[07:39] <bucken> ;>
[07:41] <noobus> How do I mount a network drive in Linux?
[07:42] <noobus> Elloo?
[07:43] <fkm> Nice :) Now the scanner seems loaded. I had to install sane and do a reboot (probably could have loaded the device manually, but that's over my head right now)
[07:45] <ubuntu__> hola
[07:45] <ubuntu__> hya alguien
[07:45] <ubuntu__> ahi
[07:46] <ubuntu__> necesito ayuda
[07:46] <ayuda> heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[07:46] <mefisto__> well done fkm!
[07:47] <fkm> Well, didn't do much ;)
[07:47] <ayuda> esoty
[07:47] <ayuda> necerrqado
[07:47] <ayuda> con un secuestrador
[07:47] <ayuda> el cual no se encuentra en este momento
[07:47] <ayuda> nos edonde ni como
[07:47] <ayuda> ayuda
[07:47] <ayuda> por favir
[07:47] <ayuda> que ya vuelv
[07:47] <mefisto__> fkm: it works, right?
[07:47] <ayuda> ahi viene
[07:47] <fkm> mefisto__: And the scanner will not scan. But I haven't depleted my ressources for that problem yet :)
[07:47] <ayuda> ayudemen
[07:47] <pag> !es | ayuda
[07:47] <Ubotu> ayuda: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:47] <dhq> how do i connect odbc and java in linux is there a manager or something
[07:47] <ayuda> help me
[07:48] <ayuda> Xevere
[07:48] <Jucato> ayuda: this is an English only channel
[07:48] <fkm> mefisto__: Well no. The scanner will not move. But the applications (tried xsane and kooka) don't sem to realise
[07:48] <ayuda> ok
[07:48] <ayuda> english
[07:48] <ayuda> no spanish
[07:48] <Jucato> !es | ayuda
[07:48] <Ubotu> ayuda: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:48] <ayuda> thank
[07:49] <fkm> mefisto__: They say they are scanning (with a status bar moving acros the screen) but the picture they get is blackness and the scanner doesn't move an inch...
[07:49] <ayuda> usen UTUTO
[07:49] <ayuda> is free
[07:49] <ayuda> kubuntu has private sw
[07:50] <Jucato> ayuda: if you need help, go to #kubuntu-es
[07:51] <mefisto__> is ayuda spamming us?
[07:51] <Jucato> one more and he's gone
[07:53] <ayuda> hey
[07:53] <ayuda> motherfucker
[07:53] <ayuda> yeah
[07:53] <ayuda> bye
[07:53] <hitmanWilly> well, you warned him...
[07:54] <Jucato> O.o
[07:59] <kaminix3> When doing metaflac --set-tag=TAG="tag", does it matter how a capitalize TAG?
[07:59] <fkm> mefisto__: Ran into a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/85488
[08:00] <fkm> mefisto__: Maybe I'll find a workaround :)
[08:01] <lnx_> how i can make apps to start on startup ( like kopete , konversation . . . ) ?
[08:02] <Jucato> lnx_: just leave them open when you logout. by default they will be started when you login
[08:02] <Jucato> (unless you changed the default behavior)
[08:02] <Jucato> !autostart
[08:02] <Ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[08:02] <lnx_> Jucato , that it i have changed to start empty session . . .
[08:05] <ceg23349> All these people, and no one ever speaks...
[08:05] <lnx_> Jucato , what is the command to run kcontrol-autostart ?
[08:05] <ceg23349> oh ><
[08:05] <lnx_> ceg23349 , its good , isnt it ?
[08:05] <ceg23349> oh yeah.  392 people, and they all just idle...
[08:06] <lnx_> ceg23349 , this si support channel , no talking = no problems
[08:06] <ceg23349> lnx_, I guess that's a good thing then... I suppose I should stop talking...
[08:07] <ceg23349> Unless you can tell me how to mount a network drive...
[08:07] <pekuja> I'm having some trouble with Skype. My microphone doesn't seem to be working.
[08:07] <lnx_> ceg23349 , i dont know , but someone will
[08:08] <pekuja> I have an Intel HDA sound card [integrated] 
[08:08] <ceg23349> sweet!  Anyone who does know how to mount such a drive; speak!
[08:08] <nadrosima> helow
[08:08] <kaminix3> pekuja: alsamixer, mix a little with the mic settings. Worked for me. :)
[08:09] <pekuja> heh, ok, I'll try if that helps :-)
[08:09] <nadrosima> whoo can test and chesk my linux cs server  ?
[08:09] <lnx_> i get this error when i try to install kcontrol-autostart : dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 13212 package `libgtksourceview1.0-0':
[08:09] <pekuja> I already tried with kmix and that didn't really help
[08:09] <pekuja> by the way, what's a good audio recording/editing app for KDE?
[08:09] <kaminix3> How can I list all vorbis comments in a flac file? I'm trying to check with my other FLAC releases if I should add anything to one I'm tagging from scratch. :p
[08:10] <pekuja> kaminix3, what sound card do you have, by the way?
[08:10] <kaminix3> pekuja: No idea about the recording thing. And if "sudo alsamixer" in the console doesn't work I don't know what will.
[08:10] <kaminix3> pekuja: 2s and I'll check.
[08:11] <nadrosima> Linux 1.6 cs server need to check and test ip 85.107.90.30:27015 (samsun server)
[08:11] <ceg23349> I know next to nothing about linux.  Knowing this can you tell me why my Amarok closes immediately upon opening, or should I look for something specialized to Amarok?
[08:12] <kaminix3> pekuja: Hmm... can't find it in lshw. Some integrated Intel poo though. Laptop.
[08:12] <SteffeN> Hello Everybody
[08:12] <nadrosima> Linux 1.6 cs server need to check and test ip 85.107.90.30:27015 (samsun server)
[08:13] <nadrosima> helol SteffeN
[08:13] <kaminix3> ceg23349: What error do you get?
[08:13] <pekuja> kaminix3, anyways, thanks. I found the right setting to change in alsamixer
[08:14] <pekuja> kaminix3, in retrospect, I should had known to try widdling with that, but it's always so easy to ask other people ;-)
[08:14] <ceg23349> kaminix3, I don't.  It just quits.
[08:14] <kaminix3> pekuja: Nice. Love when I find something I can actually solve <3
[08:14] <pekuja> :-)
[08:14] <pekuja> it was pretty weird actually
[08:14] <kaminix3> ceg23349: That's really really strange. Try starting it through console?
[08:14] <pekuja> there was an input source setting in the playback options...
[08:14] <SteffeN> I just checked my harddrive with badblocks: badblocks -s -v /dev/had
[08:14] <SteffeN> Unfortunately it fount about 30 defective blocks. What can I do to repair them or to mark them?
[08:14] <kaminix3> pekuja: Heh, yeah, that is strange. :p
[08:14] <pekuja> and there's basically three input sources that I can configure to be various actual ports O__o
[08:15] <pekuja> like Line In or Mic or CD
[08:15] <pekuja> or Front Mic, which it was set to. I assume that means the Mic port on the front of my box
[08:15] <pekuja> kinda seems silly too that I think I could had solved this by connecting the mic to another port...
[08:15] <nadrosima> SteffeN:  bad sector in ur sistem drive ?
[08:16] <pekuja> but then I wouldn't had known why it didn't work on the back
[08:16] <kaminix3> SteffeN: Okay, I can't say for sure. But I think badblocks are usually bad parts of the disk. Usually beyond repair. But as I said, I'm not sure.
[08:16] <ceg23349> kaminix3, okay, trying now...
[08:16] <SteffeN> no,it's on a other machine (winXP). so it shoud be NTFS or FAT
[08:16] <kaminix3> pekuja: Work arounds are good, but solutions are better. :p
[08:17] <pekuja> yep
[08:17] <pekuja> I hope the settings stay after I reboot or something. :-P
[08:17] <ScorpKing> is there a kopete 0.12.4 source package available? i only see 0.12.2 on http://kopete.kde.org/releases.php
[08:17] <pekuja> although I guess I can configure alsamixer to load settings at bootup
[08:17] <kaminix3> Takes time. <3
[08:17] <pekuja> so it's solvable anways
[08:17] <kaminix3> pekuja: It doesn't save settings on shut down? :p
[08:18] <pekuja> kaminix3, I think it might... I dunno though.
[08:18] <pekuja> Will have to try it at some point.
[08:18] <hitmanWilly> there's a trick with alsamixer to save the settings, just can't remember it off the top of my head
[08:18] <pekuja> I think I still have one problem left with this new box... the PC speaker goes crazy during shutdown O__o
[08:18] <kaminix3> pekuja: I know I only had to set my alsamixer settings once.
[08:19] <pekuja> ok, I guess it'll get saved automatically
[08:19] <pekuja> "goes crazy" meaning it emits a loud long beep
[08:19] <kaminix3> Man, 488384000 is a lot of blocks... :p
[08:19] <pekuja> maybe several
[08:19] <hitmanWilly> pekuja, i think you can have alsamixer mute the speaker
[08:19] <ceg23349> kaminix3, it still crashes; the window comes up, but the contents don't display.  Just what was behind it when it first opened...
[08:20] <pekuja> hitmanWilly, yeah, I know... but I have this feeling there's something actually wrong. muting the speaker is a good workaround though
[08:20] <hitmanWilly> pekuja, it's probably a misinterperted signal to the mobo, probably no big deal
[08:21] <nadrosima> Linux 1.6 cs server need to check and test ip 85.107.90.30:27015 (samsun server)
[08:21] <pekuja> hitmanWilly, probably not, but it's still annoying
[08:22] <hitmanWilly> pekuja, well, that's what the workaround is for :)
[08:22] <ceg23349> okay.... new question.  How do I add a network folder so I can look at it in Konqueror?
[08:22] <pekuja> I guess so
[08:22] <kaminix3> ceg23349: Do you get an error in the console?
[08:22] <hitmanWilly> pekuja, or, you could figure out what the kernel module is for the speaker and unload that altogether
[08:22] <nadrosima> get instal samba
[08:22] <pekuja> what if I *want* to hear the PC speaker when I'm just regularly using the system? :-O
[08:23] <pekuja> I don't though. I mostly delete pcspkr.ko
[08:23] <nadrosima> make a share folder
[08:23] <pekuja> hitmanWilly, yeah I know what the module is
[08:23] <pekuja> hitmanWilly, I usually delete it because I get annoyed
[08:23] <kaminix3> pekuja: Shut it off before shutting down the PC? ^_^
[08:23] <hitmanWilly> pekuja, good, cuz i couldn't remember it :)
[08:23] <ceg23349> kaminix3, I just don't know how do do it...
[08:23] <pekuja> kaminix3, but that would require actual work :-p
[08:24] <hitmanWilly> pekuja, or just make a shutdown script that rmmod's it
[08:24] <kaminix3> ceg23349: Open the terminal, write "amarok" (without the "), hit enter. If it crash you usually get an error message in the console.
[08:24] <jessejazza> I installed kubuntu today but found that it would't set the language to UK-EN. I had the original installation as standard ubu and installed xfce and kubuntu to have a look. It would seem i've made a mistake somehow
[08:24] <kaminix3> terminal = konsole in KDE
[08:24] <pekuja> yeah, I'll probably just remove the module and see if that helps
[08:24] <pekuja> if it doesn't though...
[08:24] <bigleon> Good morning people today
[08:24] <pekuja> then it's not Linux trying to make the beep
[08:25] <ceg23349> kaminix3, ah
[08:25] <pekuja> maybe I could find some useful info in some logs or something
[08:25] <hitmanWilly> pekuja, that's what bios settings are for :)
[08:25] <pekuja> hah
[08:25] <pekuja> I guess
[08:25] <ScorpKing> welcome back bigleon. how does konversation behave today?
[08:25] <pekuja> anyways, something is wrong if it's making a loud beep like that
[08:25] <kaminix3> jessejazza: K menu -> System Settings -> Regional settings (I think it's called)
[08:25] <pekuja> maybe it's something really minor, but I just don't really know
[08:26] <bigleon> ScorpKing it seems to be behaving but everytime i hit Y for my update it aborts -.-
[08:26] <ceg23349> kaminix3, Thought so.  And nope... no errors.  Is there some option that would make Konsole be less verbose, so it would just not be displaying any potential errors?
[08:26] <hitmanWilly> pekuja, honestly, it's probably something with how the mobo handles the shutdown cmds
[08:26] <coreymon77> speaking about konversation
[08:27] <ScorpKing> bigleon: it kicks me off every once in a while. what are you updating?
[08:27] <bigleon> i'm trying to do my full update from 6.06 to 6.10
[08:27] <uga> guys, anyone can tell about issues one might find when migrating from a 32 bit box to a 64 bit intel one? does (almost) everything work out of the box?
[08:27] <ScorpKing> again?
[08:27] <ScorpKing> bigleon: if it's working don't fix it. wait for your cd
[08:28] <hitmanWilly> uga, yes, but you'll have the usual 64 bit app compatibility issues
[08:28] <kaminix3> ceg23349: No. Konsole is just a console running programs. The errors are given from all the programs you run with it. You could add &> /dev/null on each line if you want to get rid of all errors though, I think. :p
[08:28] <bigleon> ScorpKing i really don't want to wait a month
[08:28] <bigleon> and if it fails... i can just jump back to 6.06 XD that takes about 5 minutes to install
[08:28] <coreymon77> when i open konversation, it autojoins the channels in my autojoin list so quickly that freenode doesnt have enough tine to cloak me before i join
[08:28] <coreymon77> how can i fix that
[08:28] <bigleon> nice thing about sata hd and 2gb's of ram haha
[08:28] <hitmanWilly> uga, the intel 64 bit support has gotten better lately
[08:28] <ceg23349> kaminix3, I see... Well I was actually hoping to see more errors, but still, anything I can learn is nice ^^
[08:28] <ScorpKing> bigleon: so ud rather curse the thing for a month. lol.
[08:29] <poison--> lol
[08:29] <bigleon> ScorpKing: I am a very determined person, I really don't like to give up
[08:29] <hitmanWilly> uga, at least from what i've heard...amd man myself
[08:29] <uga> hitmanWilly: thanks. I need to replace the motherboard, and I wouldn't like to get locked into an older 32 bit cpu. So I'm planning to go for a quad core
[08:29] <bigleon> !verison
[08:29] <felipe_> hi ... can you help me ... mi desktop doesnt power off from the menu, just reboot
[08:29] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about verison - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:29] <bigleon> am i spelling it wrong XD
[08:29] <ScorpKing> bigleon: so am i. let me know if it's fixed. :D
[08:29] <felipe_> i can power off from console
[08:29] <kaminix3> ceg23349: Had any other problems such as this with other programs?
[08:29] <felipe_> but a  iwant to fix that
[08:29] <uga> hitmanWilly: heh, I've looked at amd too, but I like intel chipset boards. They run so fine here in the past.
[08:30] <bigleon> ScorpKing well now my laptop works and my desktop is messed up horribly
[08:30] <uga> and then I hear amd is about to release a new slot
[08:30] <hitmanWilly> uga, well, if you run into issues, you can still run the 32 bit OS on that proc until the 64 bit one gets more stable
[08:30] <bigleon> i'm about reboot laptop and there is a good chance you won't hear from me for about 30 -60 minutes
[08:30] <uga> hitmanWilly: on the intel? or you mean on the amd. I thought only amd had that 32bit compat capability?
[08:30] <bigleon> i wanted to verify install is there any thing i can run from terminal b-4 i reboot?
[08:30] <ceg23349> kaminix3, nope, Amarok's the only one.  Think I should see what the Amarok people have to say
[08:30] <hitmanWilly> uga, they both do IIRC
[08:31] <uga> oh, I'll have to check that. Thanks
[08:31] <hitmanWilly> uga, otherwise windows wouldn't run on it either :)
[08:31] <kaminix3> ceg23349: Maybe. Have you got the latest updates? Tried re-installing amarok?
[08:31] <ScorpKing> bigleon: i swapped my desktop for a laptop, a loss actually, but i'll have one again soon. my laptop is working great. 640MHz 320MB RAM. :D
[08:31] <uga> hitmanWilly: well, I believe there's a special 64bit version of vista
[08:31] <uga> although some claimed they installed a 32 bit version, I think you're right
[08:31] <hitmanWilly> uga, there is, but its very unstable, even more so than vista
[08:32] <uga> lol, true
[08:32] <ceg23349> kaminix3, I think I will.  Not at the moment since this is a school box and my instructor is trying to get me to do something else, but soon :D
[08:32] <bigleon> ScorpKing wish me luck, i'll hopefully be back
[08:32] <ScorpKing> good luck then.
[08:33] <hitmanWilly> uga, which is why oem's still install 32 bit windows, even on 64 bit processors
[08:33] <kaminix3> ceg23349: cool, laptop borrowed from school or actual school computers with Linux? and amarok? :o
[08:33] <uga> hitmanWilly: thanks for the info, now I feel safer with the upgrade, hehe
[08:33] <genii> Man the coffee's disappearing fast today
[08:33] <genii> :)
[08:34] <hitmanWilly> uga, also something to keep in mind is that ubuntu 64 is a pain to run 32 bit apps on
[08:34] <ceg23349> kaminix3: Actual school computer with Linux.  They use them for this "Linux for idiots and CS majors" class and some higher internet security stuff
[08:34] <borislav123> ima li hora ot Bulgaria Tuka ?
[08:34] <hitmanWilly> uga, any 32 bit emulation has to be set up by hand linking libraries in many cases
[08:34] <uga> hitmanWilly: uhm, in what sense? you mean proprietary binary-only apps?
[08:35] <hitmanWilly> uga, yes
[08:35] <uga> ok, I run barely no proprietary apps except for bibble pro, myself
[08:35] <kaminix3> ceg23349: Cool. University I take it?
[08:35] <uga> so I guess I could do a few scripts for those if they are troublesome
[08:35] <hitmanWilly> uga, ok, you should be alright then, I love my games, tho
[08:35] <bigleon> Well holy crap, it updated semiokay
[08:35] <bigleon> but my adept manager is gone...
[08:36] <hitmanWilly> uga, which is why i run gentoo on the 64 box...lol
[08:36] <ceg23349> kaminix3: Yeah.  Wright State to be specific.
[08:36] <ScorpKing> bigleon: does it say so at boot?
[08:36] <bigleon> well it's just not there under kmanager
[08:36] <uga> hitmanWilly: oh my, don't make me go back to gentoo. I gave up due to so many conflicts when emerging packages
[08:36] <poison--> how do i had two keyboard layouts] 
[08:36] <poison--> this one dont let me use question mark
[08:37] <poison--> lmao
[08:37] <hitmanWilly> uga, yeah, if a gentoo box gets away from you, you can get screwed in a hurry
[08:37] <bigleon> if i type sudo apt-get install firefox is that alright for kubuntu or should i take another approch?
[08:37] <hitmanWilly> uga, kde updates especially are a pain
[08:37] <kaminix3> ceg23349: I see... then it's not so uncommon. I'd love to see Linux on atleast one of our school computers in High School. <3 Thinking of putting live CDs in them when next Kubuntu is released though. Hopefully they won't notice when booting the next day. ^^
[08:38] <nosrednaekim> yes!!! new ATI drivers!!
[08:38] <nosrednaekim> lol
[08:38] <bjwebb_> yay
[08:38] <ScorpKing> bigleon: cli command will work in ubuntu and kubuntu
[08:38] <nosrednaekim> awesome performance increase!
[08:38] <hitmanWilly> nosrednaekim, we'll see...
[08:38] <bigleon> well it says "firefox-gnome-support" i'm wondering if thats okay for my KDE enviroment
[08:38] <ScorpKing> bigleon: add a 's' :)
[08:38] <nosrednaekim> techincally only for the R600 cards... but guess what R482 me is doing...
[08:38] <bigleon> add an s where?
[08:39] <ScorpKing> lol
[08:39] <uga> hitmanWilly: I used to run both kde3 and 4 from svn, so that wasn't an issue. Then I got tired of maintaining both built by hand and I went for kde3 ebuilds
[08:39] <trzcionek> Hi where can I off adept_notifier ?
[08:39] <nosrednaekim> hitmanWilly: 900 pages of docs if you don't like them... feel free
[08:39] <ScorpKing> bigleon: nvm. gnome apps will run in kde
[08:39] <bigleon> is there any other good web browsers for kde?
[08:39] <bigleon> cause i don't like Konqueror
[08:39] <ScorpKing> firefox
[08:39] <nosrednaekim> firfox
[08:39] <coreymon77> bigleon: firefox
[08:40] <bigleon> well i'm getting firefox
[08:40] <bigleon> >.<
[08:40] <hitmanWilly> nosrednaekim, heh, well, i have enough trouble with bash and python, so maybe later...lol
[08:40] <nosrednaekim> haha
[08:40] <bigleon> hence "any other"
[08:40] <ScorpKing> opera :)
[08:40] <coreymon77> ew!
[08:40] <ScorpKing> lol
[08:40] <ScorpKing> lmao
[08:41] <ceg23349> kaminix3: rofl, that would be great.  I'd love to see the looks on the kids' faces.  Almost as priceless as the look on the faces of the techs :D
[08:41] <poison--> !keyboard
[08:41] <Ubotu> To find out how to switch your keyboard layout, See https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts
[08:41] <bigleon> *waves his hand in air* umm how you do the emote thinigy?
[08:41] <keito> anyone know how to get my amarok playing mp3 again, it was working fine until today when an error popped up saying currently cannot play mp3 files
[08:41] <hitmanWilly> like i've said many times before, i've yet to find a browser i really like, just a couple I don't actively hate
[08:41] <mefisto__> opera is not all bad
[08:41] <nosrednaekim> keito: "sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs"
[08:42] <bigleon> The big red O in opera scares me
[08:42] <keito> nosrednaekim: already installed?
[08:42] <keito> should i reinstall
[08:42] <coreymon77> bigleon: whats wrong with ff?
[08:42] <nosrednaekim> keito: no... go into settings ->driver in amarok and make sure it is xine
[08:42] <bigleon> sometimes it goes screwy with me and stops loading websites
[08:42] <poison--> wtf.. the url took me to xubuntu help
[08:42] <poison--> lmao
[08:42] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, its a representation of your rectum after using opera for any length of time...
[08:42] <keito> yep it is
[08:42] <bigleon> HitmanWilly, and if you ever seen her show.
[08:43] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, yeah...
[08:43] <bigleon> i think i'd rather watch the view
[08:43] <keito> nosrednaekim: probelsm began after the update (backport)
[08:43] <keito> firstly amaraok crashes my window dec in compiz-fusion quite a bit starting from the brginning of this week
[08:43] <hitmanWilly> opera/oprah...hmmm, interesting conspiracy theory there...
[08:43] <keito> then this happens
[08:44] <keito> note:   libxine-extracodecs is already the newest version.
[08:44] <nosrednaekim> keito: hmm
[08:44] <ScorpKing> i thought so! lol
[08:44] <bigleon> They are everywhere hitmanWilly, the goverment is using mind control on me, i must always wear my armadillo helmet... but at anyrate... :D wish me luck on my upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04 is there anyway i can set a recory point so if my 7.04 update fails i can roll back?
[08:44] <ScorpKing> oops!
[08:45] <kaminix3> ceg23349: Yeah. :D The trouble would be getting them in all PCs though, undetected. But just a few would do anyway. :p
[08:45] <coreymon77> bigleon: there shouldnt be any problems
[08:45] <keito> nosrednaekim: hmm indeed, I already been to #amarok and #ubuntu
[08:45] <kaminix3> ceg23349: Don't think our PC maintainer know you can use livecds even. :p
[08:45] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, backup the drive :P
[08:45] <bigleon> you understand how bad my luck is
[08:45] <keito> no-one seems any the wiser
[08:45] <coreymon77> bigleon: 7.04 is actually way more stable then 6.10
[08:45] <bigleon> heck when i rebooted it didn't the notice to update to 7.04
[08:45] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, or a seperate /home
[08:46] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, and a clean install
[08:46] <astan> gah. it's damn impossible to configure xorg with an external monitor on this laptop (fujitsu siemens amilo si1520, with intel graphics).. anyone know of a good graphical tool to set up xorg? i'm going insane.
[08:46] <bigleon> well how do i update because adept left me :(
[08:46] <keito> this is an internet post related to my problem but it doesn't seem to apply to me or help me either ... http://mepislovers.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-4171.html
[08:46] <ceg23349> kaminix3: heh... Show them for picking the guy with the 1.2 GPA on his associates' degree...
[08:46] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, adept isn't working?
[08:47] <bigleon> the gui interface is MIA
[08:47] <bigleon> i can't even find link under system
[08:47] <astan> my laptop screen is 1280x800 and my external monitor is 1280x1024.. shouldn't it "just work"?
[08:47] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, well, there's one way, but i'm not sure if it's what you want to do...
[08:47] <keito> nosrednaekim: any ideas?
[08:48] <keito> nosrednaekim : this is an internet post related to my problem but it doesn't seem to apply to me or help me either ... http://mepislovers.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-4171.html
[08:48] <bigleon> i'm trying apt-get install adept is that an okay idea?
[08:48] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, it'll probably show that its already there
[08:48] <bigleon> it's not
[08:48] <bigleon> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[08:49] <bigleon>   adept adept-batch adept-common adept-installer adept-manager adept-notifier
[08:49] <bigleon>   adept-updater python-qt3 python-sip4
[08:49] <hitmanWilly> hmmm...before you do that, try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:49] <bigleon> i alredy started it XD
[08:50] <hitmanWilly> well, do that after then
[08:50] <ceg23349> Interesting question: what's the command to show an environment variable?  Namely path, but whichever I can find would be nice
[08:50] <bigleon> well could i run that in another terminal window?
[08:50] <bigleon> or would that be a bad idea
[08:50] <hitmanWilly> that'll make sure your 6.10 system is fully updated before you try a full upgrade
[08:50] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, it won't let you
[08:50] <bigleon> Alright
[08:51] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, only one apt process at a time
[08:51] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, that includes adept and synaptic as well
[08:51] <bigleon> and the once i finish up to 7.04 i gotta get my Toshiba Gigabeat to transfer my school work to my PC or i'm boned T_T
[08:52] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, that's a laptop, right?
[08:52] <bigleon> yessiry
[08:52] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, ok, just making sure :)
[08:52] <bigleon> Inspiron E1705
[08:52] <bigleon> Which is a remake of some otherlaptop not sure which XD
[08:52] <bigleon> but shes still nice
[08:53] <hitmanWilly> well, Dell has been getting better lately
[08:53] <bigleon> Yeah noticibly
[08:53] <bigleon> Trust me you talk to me 4 years ago, and i'd say you'd be better off chopping your own ankle than to use a dell.
[08:53] <bigleon> now i recommend dell in most cases
[08:53] <hitmanWilly> at least they're not just a MS shill anymore
[08:54] <hitmanWilly> times, they are a changin'...lol
[08:55] <coreymon77> bigleon: i hope they are the ubuntu dells
[08:55] <coreymon77> bigleon: cause if they werent, id still have to kill you :P
[08:56] <bigleon> Well i didn't hit linux sence until 3 years back
[08:56] <bigleon> but i still used Xp for my video gaming
[08:56] <hitmanWilly> heh, this one is a hitmanWilly special...made by me for me
[08:57] <ubuntu_> hi
[08:57] <bigleon> Well i customize each of laptops i never buy strait stock
[08:57] <GIn> does Kopete support conversation logging?
[08:57] <GIn> I can't find it any where
[08:57] <hitmanWilly> howdy ubuntu_
[08:58] <ceg23349> ubuntu_ Think you can just come in here with your GNOME-ness...
[08:58] <h4xxor> hi
[08:58] <hitmanWilly> ceg23349, i think the kubu live cd uses that login as well, IIRC
[08:58] <h4xxor> i am usin the live cd
[08:59] <hitmanWilly> h4xxor, never would have guessed...lol
[08:59] <ceg23349> ubuntu_ oh... Well now I just feel dumb... Mostly due to my being dumb
[08:59] <h4xxor> lol
[09:00] <GIn> does Kopete support conversation logging?
[09:01] <hitmanWilly> GIn, not sure...don't usually log IM's
[09:01] <hitmanWilly> GIn, but probably, somewhere, guessing its just burried under some options menu
[09:02] <bigleon> firealarms went off in my college XD
[09:02] <bigleon> they are so loud but i refuse to leave
[09:02] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, heh, wait till they cut the power
[09:02] <GIn> hitmanWilly, I can't find that optiona any where
[09:02] <hitmanWilly> GIn, ok, lemme look right quick
[09:03] <h4xxor> gin what is ur problem exactly
[09:03] <mefisto__> GIn: settings> configure plugins. it's the history plugin. turn it off, apply, then on again, apply
[09:03] <ville_> Hey, tell how to get external harddisk available to my system ? What packages should I download ?
[09:04] <ville_> It is ntfs
[09:04] <poison--> none
[09:04] <poison--> unless u want the hdd to be loaded on boot, and in dat case u need diskmounter
[09:04] <GIn> mefisto__, but where do I view the logs?
[09:05] <ville_> Hmm, i can see it in system setting, but cannot find anyway to browse it.
[09:05] <hitmanWilly> GIn, check in .kde/share
[09:05] <GIn> I thought there is a log viewer for kopete
[09:05] <genii> !ntfs-3g | ville_
[09:05] <Ubotu> ville_: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[09:06] <hitmanWilly> GIn, honestly, i use pidgin usually, so I'm not sure...
[09:06] <ville_> thx ill try that one
[09:07] <ville_> I'll come back later if that help file doesn't help me ;) <- Im sooo newbie with this ;)
[09:07] <astan> hm hm. what's the dpkg (or apt-get?) command to re-configure an already installed package? i'd like to re-configure my xserver..
[09:07] <mefisto__> GIn: if you right-click a user in your list, it should have "history" there somewhere
[09:07] <mefisto__> GIn: "view history"
[09:07] <hitmanWilly> astan, sudo dpkg-reconfigure
[09:08] <GIn> mefisto__, thanks :-)
[09:08] <hitmanWilly> astan, so in your case, the cmd would be sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:09] <astan> hitmanWilly: ah. thanks.
[09:09] <urilockz> does stdin still hang out here?
[09:09] <hitmanWilly> urilockz, yeah, why?
[09:09] <urilockz> oh cool, just wandering
[09:09] <urilockz> havent been here for a while
[09:10] <ulver> hi to all
[09:10] <hitmanWilly> howdy, ulver
[09:10] <ulver> hi there
[09:10] <poison--> anyone using linux mce?
[09:11] <ulver> does anyone knows any program for live tv?i have tryied myth tv but it cannot see my tv card....
[09:11] <bigleon> Alright i'm back, they were testing students for response time... my room got F, 2 of the 3 guys in here didn't leave lmao
[09:12] <bigleon> we would so burn in the fire
[09:12] <poison--> ulver? tvtime
[09:13] <ulver> tvtime is a program?
[09:13] <hitmanWilly> ulver, if myth doesn't see it, it's probably a config issue somewhere else
[09:13] <bigleon> I don't
[09:13] <bigleon> I might gget some PHL for my Desktop :D
[09:13] <hitmanWilly> ulver, yes, its an app
[09:13] <poison--> yes ulver
[09:13] <ulver> thanx i will try it
[09:16] <bigleon> Wow my msn protocol is messing up on kopete
[09:16] <ville_> ok I installed ntfs-config, still i cant see my drive anywhere. When I plugin my hardrive kde pop up note screen where u can choose open location, etc. What ever I press allways screen just disappears... any ideas ?
[09:17] <bigleon> Your probbally dealing with a blip there ville
[09:17] <hitmanWilly> ville_, ok, can you browse in konq to /media
[09:17] <bigleon> i'm not 100 pct sure how to deal in this situation, try a google search to see if others have had same problem, make sure to like include your driver
[09:17] <hitmanWilly> ville_, see if it shows up there
[09:18] <bigleon> i thought he said it was already not popping up?
[09:18] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, the browse too isn't working, I just want to see if it's mounting at all
[09:18] <bigleon> Hmm
[09:18] <ville_> Yes, and it is not mounted there
[09:18] <hitmanWilly> ville_, ok, open up a konsole
[09:18] <bigleon> well it could come up with a pop to ask if you want to mount it eh?
[09:19] <ville_> Only cd -drive
[09:19] <newsense07> !smb
[09:19] <Ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:19] <jussi01> anyone here use sopcast?
[09:19] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, the pop up sounds like its coming up, just not doing anything
[09:19] <jussi01> anyone know how to add chnnels to the channel list?
[09:19] <bigleon> jussi01 just curious what is sopcast?
[09:19] <newsense07> !samba
[09:19] <Ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:19] <jussi01> bigleon: its for watch p2p tv
[09:20] <jussi01> !botabuse | newsense07
[09:20] <Ubotu> newsense07: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[09:20] <bigleon> jussi01 intresting, no i don't use it.
[09:20] <ville_> Annoying... Thing is that it must besomething to do with NTFS bc sticks works normally
[09:20] <hitmanWilly> ville_, what's the device for your ntfs drive
[09:20] <newsense07> jussi01: sorry thanks
[09:20] <hitmanWilly> ville_, this is a flash drive?
[09:20] <bigleon> Pfft i always get write errors with my Geeksticks
[09:20] <jussi01> :)
[09:21] <ville_> Normal buffalo USB-harddisk 80GB
[09:21] <ville_> Nope harddisk
[09:21] <hitmanWilly> ville_, ok, do you know the device name for it?
[09:21] <ville_> Just a sec, i can find it from the logs, 1min
[09:22] <hitmanWilly> ville_, or fdisk -l should list it
[09:22] <ulver> i download it...(sorry but i am new in this)how can i install it?
[09:22] <ville_> dev/sda1
[09:22] <bigleon> anyone know any good online radio stations that will work on linux? Like my Yahoo Radio won't work cause i don't use IE 8
[09:23] <ville_> And I can see in dev folder aswell.
[09:23] <mefisto__> bigleon: there should be a bunch of them already set up in amarok
[09:23] <hitmanWilly> ville_, ok, in konsole: sudo mkdir /media/sda1; sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/sda1
[09:24] <bigleon> mefisto__ thank you
[09:24] <mefisto__> bigleon: under radio streams
[09:24] <hitmanWilly> ville_, pastebin the output of that, please
[09:24] <hitmanWilly> !paste | ville_
[09:24] <Ubotu> ville_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:25] <ulver> does anyone knows how i can install tv time?
[09:25] <bigleon> tv time?
[09:25] <hitmanWilly> ulver, sudo apt-get install tvtime
[09:25] <jussi01> !info tvtime
[09:25] <ville_> Cannot paste, bc im not registered
[09:25] <bobleny> Just a quick question, what happens if I install Kubuntu on a computer that only has 128MB of RAM?
[09:25] <bigleon> then register vile
[09:25] <Ubotu> tvtime: A high quality television application. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.2-0.2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 678 kB, installed size 1932 kB
[09:26] <ville_> :)
[09:26] <hitmanWilly> ville_, ok, use pastebin.ca
[09:26] <bigleon> it won't work bobleny
[09:26] <ulver> thanx
[09:26] <bigleon> you need minmal 386 i belive
[09:26] <bobleny> 256MB
[09:26] <hitmanWilly> ville_, they don't require registration IIRC
[09:26] <astan> hrmf anyone in here at all who has a laptop with intel graphics, and who can hook it up to an external monitor with a greater resolution than the built-in monitor?
[09:27] <ville_> Failed to mount '
[09:27] <bigleon> astan it's typically other way around i get 1400x900 on my laptop and 1240X780 on my tv
[09:27] <ville_> dev/sda1 operation not supported
[09:27] <hitmanWilly> ville_, wtf?
[09:27] <mefisto__> bobleny: lots of disk activity, everything will be very slow, but will work
[09:27] <ville_> NTFS LOG FILE is unclean
[09:27] <ville_> Thats the error msg
[09:27] <hitmanWilly> ville_, that's strange...
[09:27] <astan> bigleon: okay, i have 1280x800 on my built-in, and trying to hook up a 1280x1024 external monitor.
[09:28] <ville_> Ye, mayby disk is just meshed up..
[09:28] <ville_> Hmm ill try another drive
[09:28] <hitmanWilly> ville_, that could be it
[09:28] <bigleon> astan: well what you have to do is in your X-server configuration, but i'm not 100pct sure on all details.
[09:28] <ville_> i didnt think about that, bc it is working as it should in my win machine
[09:28] <mefisto__> ville_: seems you need to chkdsk the ntfs partition in windows
[09:28] <bobleny> What command do I use to see the RAM?
[09:28] <astan> bigleon: yea. hmf. i think i've tried everything.. very annyoing.
[09:29] <antluiz> hi
[09:29] <hitmanWilly> bobleny, i think lshw lists amt of ram
[09:29] <antluiz> What should I do to connect the bittorrent?
[09:30] <bigleon> astan I feel your pain man, Back at Votech we spent nearly a week rigging up 4 montiers to one desktop lmao.
[09:30] <hitmanWilly> !bittorrent | antluiz
[09:30] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bittorrent - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:30] <astan> i've tried both the xserver-xorg-video-intel and xserver-xorg-video-i810 driver, and i've tried Xorg -configure, and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg...
[09:30] <hitmanWilly> !torrent | antluiz
[09:30] <Ubotu> antluiz: Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt), rTorrent (C++) -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[09:30] <astan> bigleon: :/
[09:30] <hitmanWilly> astan, you may need to configure it for a second monitor
[09:31] <bigleon> astan yea it can be a pain, but just read your guides, and eventually it start to work. but you should be able to use genearic mointer drivers
[09:31] <astan> i thought xrandr or whatever it's called would make this eacy..
[09:31] <astan> can't find any guides, only ML posts about people with similar problems.
[09:31] <astan> *easy.
[09:31] <cbtis155> hey alguien abla espaol
[09:31] <hitmanWilly> !dual head
[09:31] <Ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[09:32] <antluiz> eu falo portugues
[09:32] <antluiz> yo able portugues
[09:32] <antluiz> ablo
[09:32] <bigleon> isn't there a channel for Spanish speakers?
[09:32] <antluiz> I am using Ktorrent
[09:32] <hitmanWilly> !es
[09:32] <Ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:32] <astan> e.g. http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2006-November/019871.html
[09:33] <antluiz> but I am not able to connect, or find files
[09:33] <hitmanWilly> antluiz, do you have a firewall or router set up?
[09:33] <poison--> antluiz
[09:33] <bigleon> hitmanWilly, i was wanting to do some major cosmetic tweaks to my KDE envrioment, is there any good resources like "windowblinds" for winXP?
[09:33] <poison--> where r u from?
[09:34] <droach> anyword on bioshock being played in linux yet
[09:34] <poison--> eu falo portugues tb ?D
[09:34] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, check out kde-look.org
[09:34] <bigleon> thank you bunches willy :D
[09:34] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, you don't need any seperate app for kde to do stuff like that
[09:35] <ulver> help again guys!i gave the command sudo apt-get install tvtime and it started to run in the terminal...when it stopped,i wnt to the application and clicked at tvtime....it doesn't open
[09:35] <hitmanWilly> ulver, run tvtime in a konsole and see what errors it pops out
[09:36] <silvio81> Hi
[09:36] <lucky_lucas> hi, what is the name of the battery applet in kubuntu ?
[09:36] <ville_> I managed to mount other drive and it seems to work.
[09:36] <ulver> when you say at console you mean terminal?
[09:36] <ville_> What is the unmounting command
[09:36] <hitmanWilly> ulver, yes
[09:36] <poison--> ulver, maybe ure missing some dependencies
[09:36] <bigleon> hitmanWilly does the stuff like auto install or do i gotta jump through a bunch of hoops to get different themes tow ork?
[09:36] <titanio> hola
[09:36] <mefisto__> ville_: umount
[09:36] <hitmanWilly> ville_, umount <mount/point>
[09:36] <titanio> ville umount
[09:37] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, most of them install via kcontrol/system settings
[09:37] <bigleon> alright.
[09:37] <ulver> it doesn't show any errors,where i can found dependecies
[09:37] <ulver> ?
[09:37] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, but for some you do need to compile them
[09:38] <titanio> alguien que hable espaol?
[09:38] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, most of the more complicated ones come with pretty detailed instructions
[09:38] <poison--> !es
[09:38] <Ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:38] <titanio> gracias
[09:38] <poison--> :D
[09:38] <titanio> domo arigato gosaimas
[09:38] <poison--> only portuguese here
[09:38] <poison--> :D
[09:38] <bigleon> alright
[09:38] <hitmanWilly> ulver, can you pastebin the output of that?
[09:39] <hitmanWilly> !paste | ulver
[09:39] <Ubotu> ulver: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:39] <bigleon> oh a tip for ya Hitmanwilly if you haven't used this already for firefox look into add block plus :D
[09:39] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, well aware of it :)
[09:40] <bigleon> it's a really awesome tool for ridding ur self from irritating ad's
[09:40] <ulver> i cannnot pastebin
[09:40] <bigleon> ^_^ my friends love me for sharing it lmao
[09:40] <mefisto__> and there's adblock plus element hiding now too!
[09:41] <mefisto__> adblock plus element hiding helper
[09:41] <ville_> I cannot understand this. Now I re-plugged other disk and now mounting command says cannot mount file exists...
[09:41] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, what do you think are the first 2 things i install on my windows friends computers when they ask me to fix them ;)
[09:41] <bigleon> Rofl
[09:41] <bigleon> speaking of which what is this element hider mefisto?
[09:41] <ville_> In teh media folder I can see now sda1, but it is empty
[09:41] <bigleon> the fun mean thing with Adblock is to go on my friends computer and "Block" flash log in screens for their websites lmao :P
[09:41] <hitmanWilly> ville_, that's the mount point
[09:42] <hitmanWilly> ville_, it'll be empty until you mount something there
[09:42] <mefisto__> bigleon: go to mozilla addons and find it. it's an adblock plus extra. I just discovered it myself
[09:42] <frankpreel> x
[09:42] <ville_> ok now if i repeat that command u gave to mount drive, it says "file exist" cannot mount
[09:42] <Greenery> when i right clicking in Firefox and Konqueror, the response are slow. Any reason why?
[09:43] <hitmanWilly> ville_, ? did you unmount the last drive you plugged in?
[09:43] <bigleon> no i mean what does it do mefisto?
[09:43] <ville_> it is same #2 drive
[09:43] <ville_> It worked allready and i unplugged it
[09:44] <hitmanWilly> ville_, you have to unmount before you unplug
[09:44] <ville_> Ok now i unmount
[09:44] <hitmanWilly> ville_, its like safe remove
[09:44] <ville_> i understand that
[09:44] <ville_> And try to do it ;)
[09:44] <mefisto__> bigleon: it lets you choose parts of a webpage to remove, unwanted text, for example
[09:44] <hitmanWilly> ok
[09:44] <bigleon> oh like if you were senstive type you could remove curse words?
[09:44] <ville_> i used "sudo u"mount /dev/sda1
[09:45] <ville_> i used "sudo "mount /dev/sda1"
[09:45] <ville_> i used "sudo "umount /dev/sda1"
[09:45] <ville_> dam;)
[09:45] <bigleon> see thats uneseccary for me, typically i get irritated with censorship XD
[09:45] <hitmanWilly> ville_, ok, that should work
[09:45] <bigleon> anyone ever use the program "poltergiest"?
[09:45] <hitmanWilly> heh, im waiting for a search/replace
[09:45] <ville_> ok now it says no media connected
[09:46] <dcorbin_work> When I do "apt-get update" I get W: GPG error: http://www.debian-multimedia.org stable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
[09:46] <dcorbin_work> word: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[09:46] <ville_> But /dev/sda1 still exists in the directory
[09:46] <bigleon> whats your problem then dcorbin_work?
[09:46] <mefisto__> bigleon: best to find it on mozilla addons than rely on my interpretation. better yet, install it and play around with it
[09:47] <hitmanWilly> ville_, the dir will exist, linux needs a place to put mounted drives
[09:47] <bigleon> yup i'll be doing that after i finish with my themes
[09:47] <ville_> ok
[09:47] <dcorbin_work> bigleon: It suggest I do "apt-get update" to fix it, which is what I was doing in the first place.
[09:47] <terrestre> hi all, in ubuntu, i can just type ssh://ip in nautilus to see a remote pc, i can do that in konqueror? cause i did and a konsole pop up
[09:47] <dcorbin_work> I don't know how to make the problem go away.
[09:47] <ville_> ok now i plug drive in
[09:47] <hitmanWilly> ville_, this one kde should auto mount
[09:48] <bigleon> dcorbin_work i was having a problem similar to yours, i rebooted and try the apt-get update and it fixxed the issue
[09:48] <dcorbin_work> biglean: reboot linux? Argh! :) OK.  I'll give it a try.
[09:48] <hitmanWilly> ville_, assuming it's a working one
[09:48] <ville_> yes it is ;)
[09:49] <ville_> now it is plugged and running, but nothing
[09:49] <hitmanWilly> ville_, kde can sometimes auto mount stuff, but its kind of iffy sometimes
[09:49] <gbw> hello, how can i watch tv with kaffeine, 2 channels on one time?
[09:49] <bigleon> dcorbin_work yeah
[09:49] <ville_> Ill try to mount it again with that command u gave me
[09:50] <hitmanWilly> ville_, ok, open up a konsole
[09:50] <bigleon> hitmanWilly, question how do i set up my theme again XD i forgot what you said ealier
[09:50] <ville_> Still it says "file exists"
[09:50] <ville_> cannot mount
[09:51] <bigleon> ville_ if you don't got files on there, why don't use an xp computer and fdisk to raw format then bring to linux machien and let it format it..
[09:51] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, alt-f2, kcontrol, its under appearance IIRC
[09:51] <gbw> or, maybe any other software i can use to watch 2 channels on same time?
[09:51] <ville_> I have files there and i saw those allready bf i unplugged ikt
[09:51] <ville_> *it
[09:51] <hitmanWilly> ville_, ok, is the drive unplugged?
[09:51] <mimo> hello
[09:51] <ville_> now, no
[09:52] <hitmanWilly> ville_, ok, unmount and unplug
[09:52] <blender_gto> help, I cant konect whit my yahoo account whit Kopete or Pidgin, helpme please
[09:52] <ville_> k
[09:52] <hitmanWilly> ville_, ok, in a konsole, sudo rm -rf /media/sda1
[09:52] <adac> hi! where can i set my monitor resolution?
[09:53] <bigleon> O_o well that err went umm
[09:53] <bigleon> bad
[09:53] <ville_> And now its working again
[09:53] <hitmanWilly> ville_, ok, i know what the problem is
[09:54] <ville_> Do I have to do it everytime i plug/unplug it
[09:54] <hitmanWilly> ville_, no, im going to help you set it up so you don't
[09:54] <mimo> adac: i guess in the kcontrolcenter
[09:54] <ville_> nice ;)
[09:54] <mimo> if you are using kde :)
[09:54] <hitmanWilly> ville_, ok, in a konsole sudo mkdir /media/usbdrive
[09:55] <hitmanWilly> ville_, actually, try usbhd
[09:55] <ville_> ok, done
[09:55] <hitmanWilly> ville_, usbdrive or usbhd?
[09:56] <ville_> both, lets use hd
[09:56] <MarcC> how do I force-load a DVD that won't mount properly? I think I ejected the last one rather than "safely removing"
[09:56] <hitmanWilly> ville_, ok, sudo rm -rf /media/usbdrive
[09:56] <yurimxpxman> could someone help me find a way to play (and/or record) this stream? mmsh://entercom.od.liquidcompass.cc/Entercom_OD//?MSWMExt=.asf
[09:56] <ville_> k
[09:56] <neosix> hello everybody!!
[09:57] <hitmanWilly> ville_, ok, sudo kate /etc/fstab
[09:57] <ombra85> hi neosix
[09:57] <hitmanWilly> ville_, sorry, kdesu kate
[09:57] <neosix> hi
[09:57] <hitmanWilly> ville_, kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[09:57] <adac> mimo: I really can't find it there...Am I bind?
[09:57] <ville_> got fstab in kate open
[09:57] <adac> *blind
[09:58] <hitmanWilly> ok, add the following line to the bottom of that file:
[09:58] <mimo> adac: somewhere in the kmenu
[09:58] <mefisto__> adac: alt-f2, then type kcontrol
[09:58] <john_> Linux fucking sucks.
[09:58] <bigleon> wow i killed linux lmao
[09:58] <ombra85> I use kubuntu gutsy and i have a problem: i hear no sound. My soundcard is Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[09:59] <hitmanWilly> /dev/sda1 /media/usbhd ntfs-3g defaults,noauto 0 1
[09:59] <mefisto__> or "System Settings" in the Kmenu (if you want to change screen resolution)
[09:59] <ville_> ok
[09:59] <hitmanWilly> ville_, ok, save and exit
[09:59] <ville_> k
[10:00] <hitmanWilly> ville_, now, plug in the usb hd and see if it mounts
[10:01] <mrksbrd> what is the command for editing your fstab using kate???
[10:01] <ville_> hehe, kde crashed ;)
[10:01] <hitmanWilly> oh boy, ok...
[10:01] <hitmanWilly> mrksbrd, kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[10:02] <Dr_Willis> backup your existing fstab first. is a good idea.
[10:02] <mrksbrd> ty...couldn't remember the fist part
[10:02] <ville_> I think ntfs-config was reason for the crash
[10:02] <hitmanWilly> mrksbrd, kdesu for gui stuff, sudo for cmd line stuff
[10:02] <ville_> it loads much slower than earlier
[10:02] <mefisto__> sudoedit also works, as in sudoedit /somefile
[10:03] <ville_> Both mount points are empty
[10:03] <hitmanWilly> ville_, ok, try removing ntfs-config, i don't think you need it anyway, IIRC
[10:03] <ville_> k
[10:03] <greencookie> Hi fellas
[10:03] <ville_> is there ntfs support in feisty in-build+
[10:03] <Dr_Willis> ntfs-comfig shouldent be affecting kde at all.
[10:03] <hitmanWilly> ville_, read only
[10:04] <greencookie> ville_: I can access my xp partition if thats what you mean.
[10:04] <hitmanWilly> ville_, but the ntfs-3g pkg puts the read/write driver in place
[10:04] <ville_> k
[10:04] <ville_> ntfs-config is uninstalled now
[10:04] <greencookie> Hey anyone know how I can check which driver I'm using for my wireless usb?
[10:05] <hitmanWilly> ville_, ok, unplug and replug the usb drive
[10:05] <jhutchins> greencookie: sudo lsmod
[10:05] <Greenery> my ntfs HD keeps changing between sda5 and sdc5 everytime i reboot. How to make it stick to one?
[10:05] <ville_> ;)
[10:05] <jhutchins> Greenery: Use uuid instead.
[10:05] <greencookie> jhutchins: k thanks.. also how do i open terminal? any shortcut keys?:D
[10:05] <Greenery> how do i do that?
[10:06] <jhutchins> greencookie: I don't think there's a universal shortcut.
[10:06] <hitmanWilly> ville_, ok, let me know if it crashes again
[10:06] <jhutchins> !uuid | Greenery
[10:06] <ville_> nope
[10:06] <Ubotu> Greenery: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  sudo blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[10:06] <hitmanWilly> ville_, ok, is it mounted?
[10:06] <ville_> But is empty again ;)
[10:06] <poison--> did some serious shit here... all my ntfs HDDS look empty for me
[10:06] <poison--> lmao
[10:07] <greencookie> jhutchins: ok. Found one tho. Ctrl+alt+f1
[10:07] <poison--> but they arent, in windows i can see everitin in it
[10:07] <greencookie> and sudo lsmod didnt do anything for me.
[10:07] <ville_> I re-mounted and now its working
[10:07] <hitmanWilly> ville_, ok, in a konsole, sudo mount /media/usbhd
[10:07] <ville_> Actually it is sda1 now ;)
[10:08] <jhutchins> greencookie: You have to log in on the tty consoles.
[10:08] <hitmanWilly> ville_, ok, well then that works, make sure you can read and write to it
[10:08] <ville_> ill unmount and mount it to usbhd just a sec
[10:08] <greencookie> jhutchins: k. btw can you tell me what tty stands for? just curious. noob here.
[10:09] <hitmanWilly> ville_, actually, i left something out of the fstab file so you can mount without sudo
[10:09] <mefisto__> hitmanWilly, ville_: take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/110210 and see the bottom of the page
[10:09] <Dr_Willis> tty - old term for ascii terminals. :)
[10:09] <ville_> Ok immediatly when it is once mounted it starts to whine about that "file exist", cannot mount
[10:09] <greencookie> Dr_Willis: Thanks:)
[10:09] <hitmanWilly> mefisto__, i thought i smelled a hal bug...
[10:09] <Dr_Willis>  look at /dev/tty## some time.
[10:09] <jhutchins> greencookie: TeleTYpe
[10:09] <greencookie> Dr_Willis: thnx I will.
[10:10] <ville_> so if i remove entries from /media folder mounting is succesful
[10:10] <greencookie> ok lsmod shows me a list of modules. Q: Are modules the drivers that my hardware is currently using?
[10:10] <jhutchins> greencookie: essentially.
[10:10] <hitmanWilly> ville_, it has to do with kde's automounting program (hal)
[10:10] <ville_> jes
[10:11] <greencookie> Hmm. Anyway to distinguish which module is used by my Netgear111 wireless usb adapter?
[10:11] <hitmanWilly> ville_, ok, kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[10:11] <ville_> if i try to gui "safe to remove" button ill get:
[10:11] <hitmanWilly> ville_, im just going to have you set back the defaults and it should work like it did before
[10:11] <mrksbrd> who is the one trying to use a usb HDD?????????
[10:12] <ville_> device to unmount is not in /media/.hal-mtab so it is not mounted by hal
[10:12] <mefisto__> mrksbrd: that would be ville_
[10:12] <hitmanWilly> ville_, ok, is fstab open?
[10:12] <mrksbrd> what file system??
[10:12] <mefisto__> ntfs
[10:12] <ville_> open
[10:12] <greencookie> Can someone advise me about my network problem?
[10:12] <ville_> yes ntfs
[10:13] <hitmanWilly> ville_, ok, put a # in front of the line i just had you add
[10:13] <ville_> so we ignore it
[10:13] <hitmanWilly> ville_, yup
[10:13] <hitmanWilly> ville_, wasn't sure if you knew about comments :)
[10:13] <mrksbrd> ville, have u tried automatix, they have an option in there for fat32 & ntfs, it configures your fstab automatically......found this much easier than editing the fstab yourself
[10:14] <jhutchins> !automatix
[10:14] <Ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[10:14] <hitmanWilly> automatix bad!!!
[10:14] <greencookie> My internet keeps freezing/locking up after around 5-15 minutes of connection. Could that be a problem with my wireless adapter driver?
[10:14] <ville_> Is hal in here aswell hardware abstraction layer ?
[10:14] <greencookie> !ndiswrapper
[10:14] <Ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:14] <mefisto__> mrksbrd: just working around a bug, just about done
[10:14] <hitmanWilly> ville_, no, not in that file
[10:15] <mrksbrd> hitman...not for this, believe me i was pulling my hair out(whats left) this fixed it right away.....just a suggestion!!!
[10:15] <Dr_Willis> QNX has announced that effective immediately, the company will open the source code to its QNX embedded, RTOS, microkernel operating system
[10:15] <Dr_Willis> thats nifty News.. Wonder what license they are using...
[10:15] <ville_> I ment is it rly kde who handles mounting?
[10:15] <hitmanWilly> ville_, the drives were auto mounting before, correct?
[10:15] <ville_> Nope. only flash drives. got problems with ext. harddrives
[10:16] <hitmanWilly> ville_, no, its hal that handles automounting of drives
[10:16] <hitmanWilly> ville_, and fstab/mount that handles manual mounting
[10:16] <ville_> Yes, but i assume it must be in a kernel ?
[10:16] <ville_> k
[10:16] <hitmanWilly> ville_, yes, but on a kubuntu system it comes by default
[10:16] <ville_> ok
[10:17] <ville_> Thing is with a filesystems, bc fat drivers work nicely
[10:17] <ville_> *drives
[10:18] <hitmanWilly> ville_, that's because there's a more stable kernel driver already in place for them
[10:18] <ville_> ahh
[10:18] <greencookie> !lspci
[10:18] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lspci - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:18] <hitmanWilly> ville_, there's a ntfs driver in the kernel as well, but its a read only
[10:19] <hitmanWilly> ntfs-3g is the read write driver, but its been known to have some stability issues
[10:19] <ville_> yeah, thats what i have read
[10:19] <greencookie> !amarok
[10:19] <Ubotu> Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[10:20] <hitmanWilly> ville_, anyway, see if that works for you...with the working ntfs drive
[10:20] <greencookie> !fiesty
[10:20] <Ubotu> Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Kubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[10:21] <ville_> this drive works, but i have to remove all entries from media folder and mount it again everytime ;)
[10:21] <ville_> If there is any old entries left it wont mount correctly
[10:22] <ville_> Anyway thx for the help. Now i even now how to access it ;)
[10:22] <hitmanWilly> ville_, well, at least there's that much :)
[10:22] <ville_> yes, that was a big help. Ill get my data into this machine ;)
[10:24] <hitmanWilly> ville_, back up the ntfs drives and reformat them :P
[10:24] <bigleon> hard drive finally working?
[10:24] <ville_> Hehe, that could be the easy way ;)
[10:24] <ville_> Nah
[10:24] <bigleon> awww poor you haha
[10:24] <bigleon> well off to do some theme searching :D
[10:25] <ville_> Some problems still, luckily I can access it now
[10:25] <bigleon> anybody want to help me find a kde dark evil theme look?
[10:25] <newsense07> dark-plastik
[10:26] <terrestre> a dark evil theme jaja nice
[10:27] <terrestre> i lake think in gray or something like that
[10:27] <terrestre> like
[10:27] <mefisto__> hitmanWilly: did you try the uncheck "mount as user" workaround?
[10:28] <bigleon> Hmmhhmm i guess i'm looking for a dark grim reaper
[10:28] <bigleon> look
[10:28] <ardchoille> !automatix
[10:28] <Ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[10:28] <hitmanWilly> mefisto__, nope, but then again my experience with ntfs is severely limited
[10:28] <newsense07> bigleon:check out the link i sent ya, pretty nice dark theme, im using it
[10:29] <bigleon> Lmao i just grabbed that on website
[10:29] <bigleon> like 10 minutes before you linked me
[10:29] <bigleon> i might have to find some stuff to alternate it. a bit.
[10:30] <bigleon> I love setting something to defualt as the screen like "morphs"
[10:30] <mefisto__> hitmanWilly: basically, the trick was to mount with ntfs-3g, then right-click, properties, and uncheck "mount as user". ville_, you might want to try that
[10:31] <ville_> ok ill try that one
[10:32] <flake> what's a good server monitoring gui for apache
[10:32] <flake> to see like so many unique visitors, hits, performance, etc
[10:32] <ville_> Funny thing is that i removed all entries from media folder and stil system setting->advanced->disk and etc, shows that the drive is still connected
[10:33] <flake> ville_  sounds like you are trying to remove it - have you tried unmounting
[10:33] <terrestre> hi all, in ubuntu, i can just type ssh://ip in nautilus to see a remote pc, i can do that in konqueror? cause i did and a konsole pop up
[10:33] <ville_> yes no any sda left
[10:34] <astan> anyone know what the difference between xserver-xorg-video-intel and xserver-xorg-video-i810 is?
[10:34] <ville_> hmm, mayby it get that data from fstabs even it is comment marked
[10:35] <mefisto__> terrestre: I think in konqueror you can type remote:/
[10:35] <ville_> Hmm, mayby problem is somewhere else. Where heck that program discover, that sda1 is still valid
[10:36] <lnx_> what is the command to run "kcontrol-autostart"
[10:36] <bigleon> They are different drivers astan
[10:40] <mefisto__> ville_: I would avoid using the gui for disks. It always screws things up for me. Better to view/edit fstab directly
[10:41] <Dr_Willis> Yep. learning how/what/where to edit the fstab manually is a Good skill to gain.
[10:42] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, ok, just to show you how my system is set up...http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=66176
[10:42] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, this is my gentoo box but it should be doable under any kde
[10:43] <vlt> Hello. Does anyone know a "replace in multiple files" tool that asks me for each substitution? (sed and kate seem to lack such function)
[10:43] <ville_> yes so it seems t odo ;)
[10:43] <kaminix|benkyou> Is there anything saying I should not go with ext3 on my new 500GB external?
[10:43] <terrestre> mefisto__: no, it doesnt work, but thanks
[10:43] <terrestre> drif: hi
[10:44] <bigleon> pretty
[10:44] <hitmanWilly> kaminix|benkyou, ext3 is probably the most supported filesystem on nix, but you can set it up for whatever you want
[10:44] <bigleon> i like that, think you can help me set that up on kubuntu?
[10:45] <kaminix|benkyou> I know. But I just did fsck and noticed "wow, no non-contagious poo. Wonder if it'll stay that way with some other FS"
[10:45] <mefisto__> terrestre: if it's samba, type smb:/ in konqueror
[10:45] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, yeah, probably :) the best way is to play around with it until you find a setup you like
[10:46] <ThePianoGuy> hi guys
[10:46] <bigleon> soto get like special buttons and stuff do i need widgets
[10:46] <terrestre> mefisto__: yeah i know samba, but it's ssh
[10:46] <ThePianoGuy> anyone succeeded in running macosx under ubuntu using vmware, qemu, virtualbox, bochs or any other emulators?
[10:46] <bigleon> sorry i know my Win XP, but when it comes to theming linux i'm a little loss
[10:47] <terrestre> nice theme
[10:47] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, the buttons are just regular icons, my taskbar is fully transparent, and the big gentoo button is done through kbfx
[10:48] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, the window stuff is just done through themeing
[10:48] <bigleon> alright, well i guess i'll go play with it and hope to dear god i don't crash it
[10:48] <hitmanWilly> lol
[10:48] <mefisto__> terrestre: try sftp://user@host
[10:48] <bigleon> hey hitman you got an msn or yim or aim
[10:49] <bigleon> i'd like to add ya
[10:49] <lnx_> someone if i can set kaffeine plugin for firefox to play the video embedded and not external ?
[10:49] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, yeah, hitmanWilly on yahoo
[10:50] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, i may be switching to google here soon, tho...
[10:50] <terrestre> hey mefisto__ thanks, that work but, that is sftp, not ssh, nautilus support ssh, but that work too, thanks
[10:50] <bigleon> yeah i got google :D
[10:50] <bigleon> i need to add  a gtalk to my kopete but i'll do that after i finish themeing
[10:50] <hitmanWilly> ok :), actually, i needed to do that anyway...
[10:51] <mefisto__> lnx_: there's an mplayer plugin for firefox that embeds video
[10:52] <bigleon> hey quick question hitman, is ther a quick way to set my comp up to a 1400X900 res
[10:52] <lnx_> mefisto__ , i know , its doesnt work well for me , not mplayer and not the plugin
[10:53] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, not quick, but possible
[10:53] <bigleon> mind walking me through it?
[10:53] <kkathman> greetings :)
[10:53] <bigleon> i belive it has to do with the Xserver config
[10:53] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, ok, can you pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:54] <bigleon> i need pastebin link, i'll go open the file
[10:54] <kaminix|benkyou> Okay, does the capitalization matter for vorbis comments or not? Some seem to write ARTIST, some artist and some Artist
[10:55] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, pastebin.ca
[10:55] <terrestre> its very easy editint xorg.conf :)
[10:55] <hitmanWilly> terrestre, not for XP folks :P
[10:55] <hitmanWilly> terrestre, but for those of us who grew up on slackware, yes...
[10:56] <terrestre> until the last year i was a XP folks ;)
[10:56] <hitmanWilly> terrestre, heh, lol
[10:56] <bigleon> http://pastebin.ca/694537
[10:56] <kaminix|benkyou> How can I add a lable to an USB drive so that it will always be mounted with the same folder/name?
[10:57] <mefisto__> lnx_: have you tried the vlc plugin? It doesn't work for me, but it might be worth trying
[10:58] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, ok, you see down around line 139...the res's that are listed...
[10:58] <terrestre> this laptop connect to internet throw a pc, the pc is my gateway. but my ip is the same like the pc, i just cant get in the laptop throw ssh because my ip is the pc ip. and idea?
[10:58] <bigleon> yup
[10:59] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, add in the res in the exact same format you see listed there, for all the color depths you want it at
[10:59] <bigleon> depth 32 and add "1400X900"
[10:59] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, i'd suggest sticking with 24
[10:59] <bigleon> or should i stay with 24
[10:59] <bigleon> Okayy
[10:59] <bigleon> lol
[10:59] <lnx_> mefisto__ , what is the package name ?
[10:59] <ubuntu> test
[10:59] <dangaio> hello. I want to customize my kubuntu laptop. Is there any "howtos" to create your own personal splash screen like the kubuntu one?
[11:00] <ryon420> ok
[11:00] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, 32 bit color really doesn't look any different and it can cause problems with compositing
[11:00] <bigleon> alright
[11:00] <ryon420> whats up everyone?
[11:01] <mefisto__> lnx_: mozilla-plugin-vlc
[11:01] <ryon420> i saw that movie; it wasnt bad
[11:01] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, save and exit, then restart X
[11:02] <mefisto__> lnx_: there's also totem-mozilla, if the vlc one doesn't work out for you
[11:02] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, you need to use sudo or kdesu to edit that file
[11:03] <lnx_> mefisto__ , but kaffeine cant be embeded somehow ?
[11:04] <mefisto__> lnx_: not as far as I know. If I knew how I would be using it too :)
[11:04] <hitmanWilly> lnx_, not that i know of...i've had the best luck with the mplayer plugin
[11:04] <bigleon> gotta remeber where i change the res at now lol
[11:04] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, line 139 or so
[11:05] <bigleon> i changed it i ment actually change it lol
[11:05] <bigleon> like to use that setting
[11:05] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, its down near the end of the file, you'll recoignize it when you see it
[11:05] <bigleon> alright
[11:05] <hitmanWilly> 1680x1050 here
[11:06] <bigleon> meh on xp my laptop only supported 1400X900 so i'll stick with that
[11:06] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, ok, btw do you have the binary drivers installed?
[11:06] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, i mean for your vid card?
[11:06] <bigleon> If it didn't come with my update then no
[11:07] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, ok, im not sure if the open ati drivers will support that res...
[11:07] <bigleon> hmm
[11:07] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, but worst case it just dumps you back into 1024x768
[11:08] <bigleon> what button do i hit to change res? after editing file
[11:08] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, i use nvidia here, so im not sure about ati's various quirks
[11:08] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, it should jump to the first one in the list
[11:08] <bigleon> it didn't do anything after saving the file
[11:08] <urilockz> am I able to put KDE 4 beta onto my system?
[11:08] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, you have to restart X for the changes to take effect, ie log out and back in
[11:08] <lnx_> Totem is perfect !
[11:09] <vge> quick unix question, how i list users that belong to sertain group?
[11:09] <bigleon> Oh i'm dling at the moment so i'll have to wait
[11:09] <urilockz> i dont want to try and break my system
[11:09] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, ok
[11:09] <hitmanWilly> urilockz, you can install it side by side with your current kde
[11:09] <urilockz> sweet
[11:10] <urilockz> is it only for gutsy?
[11:10] <hitmanWilly> urilockz, i think there's a backport
[11:10] <hitmanWilly> urilockz, but its still very beta, so be warned
[11:11] <urilockz> is there a way to get tribe 5 without the cd, fro mmy terminal or something?
[11:11] <hitmanWilly> urilockz, that i don't know...
[11:11] <urilockz> ok il try googling i guess
[11:12] <hitmanWilly> urilockz, it may be that it comes automatically when you update a gutsy install
[11:12] <hitmanWilly> urilockz, not sure how buntu runs betas
[11:12] <bigleon> got google talk to work i think lmao
[11:12] <urilockz> my cd drive is broken, so i cant get the cd and get gutsy. f
[11:13] <claydoh> urilockz: and hitmanWilly yes, running updates in gutsy will get you the latest, even newer than the last tribe release
[11:13] <mneptok> urilockz: you can dist-upgrade
[11:13] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, heh, mines up, try hitmanWilly38351
[11:14] <bigleon> hmm getting  a werid error
[11:14] <hitmanWilly> ?
[11:14] <urilockz> oh?
[11:14] <bigleon> how did you set up gmail, i read a thing said to do it over Jabber
[11:14] <bigleon> i don't think i did it right
[11:15] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, i just hit the little create account button on the googletalk website
[11:15] <manchicken> Does compiz and/or beryl require xgl versus X?
[11:15] <bigleon> i got a account already on google
[11:15] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, ah, k
[11:15] <bigleon> i'm talking about setting it up kopete
[11:15] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, pidgin here :)
[11:15] <bigleon> I miss my pidgin
[11:15] <bigleon> i should go get it again
[11:15] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, so reinstall it
[11:16] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, i think it's still gaim in the repos, tho
[11:16] <bigleon> it is gaim
[11:16] <hitmanWilly> i think the pidgin website has a deb for it
[11:16] <claydoh> urilockz: you can also upgrade from past versions (feisty, etc) from a gui: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/GutsyGibbon/Tribe4/Kubuntu#head-cfa1001afadc3https://wiki.kubuntu.org/GutsyGibbon/Tribe4/Kubuntu#head-cfa1001afadc3e0b752edf84051ef6a84da864a4e0b752edf84051ef6a84da864a4
[11:17] <bigleon> pidgin was orginally gaim,
[11:17] <claydoh> woah long url
[11:17] <R> Can anyone tell how to change my resolution? I have a 22 inch wide LCD and I need to set it at 1680x1050 resolution and 60Hz refresh rate. I edited the xorg.conf file and restarted the computer but still the resolution hasn't changed from 1024x768. Pls help !!!
[11:17] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, yes, but if you want the actual pidgin versions, you still have to download from the site IIRC
[11:17] <urilockz> nevermind, i have found these backports
[11:17] <bigleon> R your card does support new res
[11:17] <R> yes
[11:18] <R> it's a GeForce 7600GS
[11:18] <hitmanWilly> R, are you using the proprietary drivers?
[11:18] <bigleon> I mean your drivers XD
[11:18] <R> i don't think i've installed them
[11:18] <vge> !pastebin
[11:18] <Ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:18] <R> i've just installed Kubuntu a half hour ago
[11:18] <hitmanWilly> !nvidia | R
[11:18] <Ubotu> R: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:19] <hitmanWilly> R i don't think that the open source one goes that high
[11:19] <elite101> hey!!
[11:19] <elite101> im back after my vacation @ school :P
[11:19] <hitmanWilly> howdy elite101
[11:20] <elite101> lol hey
[11:20] <manchicken> !effects
[11:20] <Ubotu> For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[11:20] <elite101> mhm im getting a new pc rite now my computer fell and the circuir board (MOBO) go wrecked so im at the library
[11:21] <elite101> it was only a p3 anyways but now i have no computer rite now
[11:21] <vge> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37265/ <-- someone can help me with simplest of htaccess, it just dont seem to work :/
[11:21] <hitmanWilly> elite101, they have irc at your library? nice...
[11:21] <R> I also tried Ubuntu last week and the NVidia drivers installed as part of the update and after editing xorg.conf, i had the right resolution but a slightly lower refresh rate
[11:22] <hitmanWilly> R, yeah, that's fixable, but its a pain
[11:22] <elite101> no
[11:22] <elite101> its online IRC
[11:22] <bigleon> you will between 20 and 60 hehe
[11:22] <R> brb, gotta restart, finished installing Kubuntu updates, all 115 of them :)
[11:23] <elite101> they have Doucore dells optiplexs here :D
[11:23] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, well, duh...lol
[11:23] <elite101> but i have on question thou
[11:23] <bigleon> i wanted to give my 2 cents
[11:23] <elite101> i check on the computers ram it says: 0.99gb what does that mean?
[11:23] <hitmanWilly> elite101, 1 gb of ram
[11:23] <elite101> why does it says 0.99gb of ram (its running windows pro)
[11:23] <elite101> ah ic
[11:24] <elite101> thought so but i dont see why they couldnt have it as 1Gb of ram?
[11:24] <hitmanWilly> elite101, 1 byte = 1024 bits, extrapolate from there
[11:24] <elite101> ahh i know but they round it out
[11:25] <elite101> 1024x100,000,000
[11:25] <elite101> i think*
[11:25] <hitmanWilly> yes, but to a hw manufacturer, 1kb=1000b, not 1024
[11:26] <hitmanWilly> so the package will say 1gb of ram, but in reality, the machine reports it as less than that
[11:27] <elite101> mhm i emailed the school board asking: i came across eastdale secondary school and couldnt help to see there was no opensource software or distro's installed on the computers? i wonder to my self why? is it because we live in a M$ world? i asked the school board to see if they could install it i mean it is "cheaper/virus free/good programs"
[11:27] <BluesKaj> yup. free -m shows 946mb total
[11:27] <elite101> i said something like that yesterday i didnt get a reply yet
[11:27] <uga> hitmanWilly: remember... now, given iso ... 1kB=1000B, 1kiB=1024B
[11:28] <hitmanWilly> uga, well, yeah...show off :P
[11:28] <hitmanWilly> elite101, ok, the reply will be...huh?
[11:28] <uga> hitmanWilly: I only meant they are in their own right to do that now ;)
[11:28] <elite101> lol
[11:28] <elite101> i didnt get one yet
[11:29] <BluesKaj> linux ..what is that ..a computer program ?
[11:29] <elite101> hopefully he consider's it i have 2 Kubuntu livecd's in my binder @ school :P
[11:29] <ScorpKing> elite101: some of the schools i talked to made it clear that they need MS Word and OpenOffice is not a good enough replacement. i think they should just read the manuals.
[11:30] <elite101> mhm i asked them i mean they do have office programs/pdf viewers in Kubuntu? mhm it would be cheaper
[11:30] <hitmanWilly> well, ms word costs more, so it must be better XD
[11:30] <elite101> well not cheaper *no cost*
[11:30] <ScorpKing> there is one school with about 20 computers that only use linux. :D
[11:30] <hitmanWilly> $200 > $0, therefore, costs more...lol
[11:31] <ScorpKing> lol
[11:31] <elite101> lol
[11:31] <BluesKaj> elite101, the edus=cators don't care about taxpayer's money, they're constantly try ing to figure out how to overspend their budget so  it will be increasd the next fiscal year.
[11:31] <elite101> yeah probably
[11:31] <hitmanWilly> ms software is a good way to do that
[11:32] <hitmanWilly> overspend, anyway
[11:32] <elite101> well i mean they have some p3's in the school old white optiplex's they run about 333mhz-1Ghz i could run it on them since they use a windows server with the HDD's for each student
[11:32] <BluesKaj> they're on the BS bandwagon more than most bureacracies
[11:32] <elite101> on the newer pc's they use the server thing
[11:33] <hitmanWilly> elite101, pop one of those live-cd's into the library comp, see what happens...lol
[11:33] <rustalot> my sound isn't working
[11:33] <elite101> but the whole school is networked with windows so that when you sign in as a Student ex. JhonD and then for password Jhond you sign in on your personal HDD on a server
[11:33] <elite101> can kubuntu work like that?
[11:34] <ScorpKing> sure. edubuntu
[11:34] <hitmanWilly> elite101, with samba, maybe
[11:34] <elite101> i wonder but the Server HDD's are networked and there prob .NTFS so that shouldnt be a prob
[11:34] <lnx_>  someone know how to get mozilla-totem to be full screen ?
[11:34] <hitmanWilly> elite101, or if the whole system is set up with nix, it'd be even easier, mount everything with nfs
[11:34] <uga> elite101: we had that on sun solaris, through ntfs
[11:34] <ScorpKing> nfsmount all home directories over the network.
[11:34] <elite101> but just the signing in like you sign in befor you go into windows
[11:34] <kiosk> my apt-get is broke :)
[11:35] <uga> elite101: sorry, not ntfs, NFS, obviously =) you should be able to set up every /home drive as an nfs one?
[11:35] <uga> as simple as that
[11:35] <astan> bleh. now i got Xorg to crash trying to configure xinerama.. hmf.-
[11:35] <elite101> when you sign into the network you sign in @ a log-on screen on windows befor you even load windows* the windwos is installed on the HDD but you cant do anything to that drive once you restart all changes will be back to normal same at the library
[11:36] <urilockz> Jesus, KDE is big!
[11:36] <elite101> :D
[11:36] <ScorpKing> elite101: ltsp thinclients is an example of mutliple computers using one storage device.
[11:37] <elite101> yeah like that but there is 2drives (One network on internal) windows is on that drive thats inside the computer the *docuements/word/office* that stuff you type gets saved in the Server wich runs all over the school as long as u have a SChool pc hooked up you can access the server anywhere around the school
[11:37] <uga> elite101: if you read "start windows" similar to "start kde", should be same thing
[11:38] <elite101> hm but when you sign in i dont sign into the windows drive thats on the computer but i load up my personal drive thats in the server
[11:38] <urilockz> woah 657mb
[11:38] <uga> elite101: uh? you mean authentication is per-machine? not centralised?
[11:38] <elite101> like when someone use;s that computer it will be the same but it wont have my stuff on it anymore it will be what they did
[11:38] <ScorpKing> lol. that should not be to much trouble with a few scripts.
[11:39] <elite101> you see they dont expect "us" students to do anything but if i know how to screw things up i could ruin there whole system but i wouldnt thou just saying*
[11:39] <ScorpKing> :)
[11:39] <elite101> they think where "dumb" idont know i dont think they know what "linux" is :D
[11:40] <ScorpKing> haha
[11:41] <elite101> i just wanna know if i can install Kubuntu and then i could go into my server but i think the server HDD's are NTFS so it would be a task because i can go into kubuntu Mount the NTFS drive(s) in the server restart and then log-in as My user/pass?
[11:41] <urilockz> i remember in primary school when me and my friend were set at the projector computer, we were on a malicious website of dead people and ew, then the teacher unknowingly put the projector on :D
[11:41] <elite101> but i dont think i can do that since its with MS and all i would need more info on how its setup
[11:41] <elite101> LOL
[11:41] <elite101> :P
[11:42] <elite101> well the library is gay*/Dumb*/stupid* i have a 60min timer im @ 19mins :(
[11:42] <elite101> your only aloud 60mins a day*
[11:42] <urilockz> are you banned from anything and everything?
[11:42] <elite101> no
[11:43] <urilockz> as in from the internet
[11:43] <elite101> i dont have my computer*
[11:43] <elite101> its broken
[11:43] <urilockz> i mean in the library or wherever you are at
[11:43] <elite101> no its only @ 60mins aday for everyone
[11:43] <hitmanWilly> elite101, set the clock back...heh
[11:43] <elite101> its a sing in screen you sign in your Lib card and a Pin#
[11:43] <elite101> lol u cant
[11:44] <elite101> its with PC reservation is the program
[11:44] <urilockz> at my school im allowed whenever but teachers etc look at my screen through their admin pc :/
[11:44] <hitmanWilly> elite101, wanna bet :P
[11:44] <rixxon> How can I remove everything that got installed by ubuntu-desktop?
[11:44] <kiosk> \leave
[11:44] <elite101> i use to run keylogger and get peoples Libcard/MSN/Myspace pass but thats frowned apon*
[11:44] <urilockz> hhaahah
[11:44] <hitmanWilly> strange about that
[11:44] <kiosk> can never remember which slash it is LOL
[11:45] <hitmanWilly> elite101, do they have cd drives?
[11:45] <uga> rixxon: sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/hda
[11:45] <elite101> urilock, download firefox the program they use is Netsupport school pro i can use firefox the program only monitors IE lol me and my friends do it all the time
[11:45] <elite101> yeah
[11:45] <elite101> they do
[11:45] <elite101> bios=pass
[11:45] <elite101> they would no
[11:45] <rixxon> uga: i don't think so
[11:45] <urilockz> i cannot download .exe files
[11:45] <urilockz> and they will watch me
[11:45] <elite101> ahh
[11:45] <urilockz> yeah
[11:45] <elite101> :(
[11:45] <elite101> lol
[11:46] <elite101> i have it preinstalled on my Server drive same with Halo1demo :D
[11:46] <urilockz> i got permanently banned for printing in colour a dogs face on a mans body
[11:46] <hitmanWilly> remember in 1984 how they would watch people through their tv sets?
[11:46] <elite101> it would be cool to install kubuntu to a server drive then sign in as windows pc and it runs kubuntu on the drive
[11:46] <hitmanWilly> the book
[11:46] <elite101> TV?
[11:46] <uga> elite101: well, it's a way to wipe out everything. I thought that's what you wanted? =)
[11:46] <elite101> lol
[11:46] <uga> rixxon: well, it's a way to wipe out everything. I thought that's what you wanted? =)
[11:46] <uga> sorry, wrong link
[11:47] <rixxon> uga: nope
[11:47] <uga> or nick
[11:47] <hitmanWilly> well, computer monitors hadn't been invented yet
[11:47] <elite101> :D i could ruin the whole system @ school/welland lib
[11:47] <elite101> lol
[11:47] <elite101> TV :P
[11:47] <terrestre> this laptop connect to internet throw a pc, the pc is my gateway. but my ip is the same like the pc, i just cant get in the laptop throw ssh because my ip is the pc ip. and idea?
[11:47] <rixxon> uga: i have kubuntu, installed ubuntu-desktop, now I don't want it.
[11:47] <rixxon> i want clean kubuntu.
[11:47] <uga> oh hum...
[11:47] <urilockz> remove kubuntu-desktop?
[11:47] <elite101> sudo apt-get KDE
[11:47] <elite101> lol
[11:47] <rixxon> urilockz: other way around, you must mean
[11:47] <urilockz> ubuntu*
[11:47] <urilockz> xD
[11:47] <Zeke> Is there anyone here that can give me a hand with a wireless card
[11:48] <rixxon> yea, tried that. removes like 20 kb. tried apt-get autoremove after that, removes nothing.
[11:48] <hitmanWilly> rixxon, sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get autoremove
[11:48] <urilockz> i use all *buntu's (except edu)
[11:48] <rixxon> hitmanWilly: well, tried that.
[11:48] <hitmanWilly> oh, nm :)
[11:48] <rixxon> :(
[11:48] <elite101> edu sucks* :D
[11:48] <terrestre> if you install ubuntu-desktop with aptitude you can easy remove with aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop if not, search in google a long list of packages to remove ubuntu desktop
[11:48] <elite101> well i gotta go guys i have to go now lol only like 10mins left on my time :P
[11:48] <elite101> bye
[11:48] <ScorpKing> !wireless | Zeke
[11:48] <Ubotu> Zeke: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:48] <drewmister> what editor u guys like on kubuntu?
[11:49] <drewmister> xemacs?
[11:49] <ScorpKing> kate
[11:49] <terrestre> !ubuntu-desktop
[11:49] <Ubotu> k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[11:49] <hitmanWilly> drewmister, vim
[11:49] <elite101> *im getting my p4-900Mhz sony duron CPU/Vaio PC later on like next week i can finally use my own computer*
[11:49] <elite101> its for free so hey*^
[11:49] <ScorpKing> vi rules :)
[11:49] <elite101> lol better than AMD k6 asus i was using
[11:50] <Zeke> I've gone through that install document there I don't know how many times today. Until a few moments ago it didn't tell me that I had an invalid driver, it does now. So I have messed something up
[11:50] <elite101> my uncle is getting it for me since i installed his radio/cdplayer in his car :P
[11:50] <drewmister> man vi is hard... i been using that for configs and let me tell you productivity cut in half since my gentoo emacs
[11:50] <elite101> bye
[11:50] <ScorpKing> Zeke: what is the error?
[11:50] <ScorpKing> bey
[11:50] <hitmanWilly> drewmister, you use emacs and think vim is hard? wow...
[11:51] <drewmister> i had to see what the crave was about this ubuntu, i have been a gentoo self configured compiler for a while
[11:51] <Zeke> ScorpKing: after running ndiswrapper -l it tells me inffile : invalid driver!
[11:51] <ScorpKing> drewmister: http://www.washington.edu/computing/unix/vi.html and http://www.lagmonster.org/docs/vi.html
[11:51] <hitmanWilly> drewmister, i still am :)
[11:52] <drewmister> the gui installation went soo smothe, i can at least see this being an option for many of my friends
[11:52] <Zeke> The odd part about that is, it didn't say that untill recently. I'm not sure what I changed
[11:52] <ScorpKing> Zeke: what card is that?
[11:52] <rixxon> terrestre: does adept support anything like that?
[11:52] <Zeke> netgear 311 v3
[11:53] <moofoo> hi, is there a way to browse the podcast in the itunes store with linux?
[11:53] <terrestre> rixxon: i dont think so
[11:53] <hitmanWilly> moofoo, nope
[11:53] <rixxon> :(
[11:53] <terrestre> !aptitude
[11:53] <Ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[11:54] <hitmanWilly> moofoo, the itunes drm is incompatible with linux
[11:54] <terrestre> i tried to remove ubuntu-desktop too, su i have to googling to find a command with all the packages, theres a lot, i mean a lot to clean your kubuntu-desktop
[11:54] <moofoo> hitmanWilly: not the songs from the store just the podcast portal with the (drm) free stuff..
[11:54] <rixxon> terrestre: what if I reinstall it via aptitude... :)
[11:55] <rixxon> like some forced installation
[11:55] <hitmanWilly> moofoo, well, maybe through a web browser, but not through any nix app
[11:55] <terrestre> i tried that
[11:55] <terrestre> but nothing happend
[11:55] <rixxon> heh
[11:56] <Zeke> I can't get it to delete any the driver either
[11:56] <ScorpKing> Zeke: try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=261686 or search in google - netgear 311 v3 on ubuntu
[11:57] <ScorpKing> Zeke: i'm not sure how to fix that
[11:57] <drewmister> when partition for a dual boot system with win xp and gentoo i kept getting a invalid partition table error, can you not set 2 partitions on the same drive to bootable?  i noticed fdisk in my current instalation has no linux partitions marked as bootable, whereas i was trying to get a /boot partition and my ntfs partition on the gentoo installation
[11:58] <drewmister> thats another reason i was trying out the ubuntu, to see how it configured grub automatically and see how it set boot flag partitions (surprised me when no linux partitions were set to bootable)
[11:59] <ScorpKing> drewmister: sudo cfdisk /dev/hda and set the main partition active
[12:00] <terrestre> rixxon: this work for me http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnomedapper
[12:01] <rixxon> terrestre: but that's dapper and not gnome
 the main partition being my windows ntfs? it has that set as bootable, and grub still boots ubuntu kernel without being on a bootable partition
[12:02] <TECKBW> hi all
[12:02] <terrestre> rixxon: you have to read more :P
[12:03] <drewmister> when i set both my ntfs partition and my / partition to boot during my gentoo installation i got the invalid partition table
[12:03] <ScorpKing> drewmister: i think you can only have one as boot
[12:03] <TECKBW> how can i mount a fat32 patition as writable...I have mounted it, but only able to write when using sudo
[12:03] <rixxon> terrestre: like, what?
[12:04] <ScorpKing> TECKBW: try to mount it with -o uid=1000,gid=1000
[12:04] <TECKBW> will do ...let u know in a minute
[12:04] <drewmister> k that must have been my problem, there is no clear documentation of that... GRUB configures it to boot regardless of being a bootable partition is what i'm finding on google now
[12:04] <vge> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37265/ <-- someone can help me with simplest of htaccess, it just dont seem to work :/
[12:06] <TECKBW> ScorpKing -- >I can't seem to see the files now that i mounted with the above
[12:07] <ScorpKing> TECKBW: sudo ls ?
[12:07] <TECKBW> ScorpKing sudo LS or IS
[12:07] <TECKBW> ?
[12:07] <ScorpKing> ls
[12:08] <TECKBW> what is that supposed to do?
[12:08] <TECKBW> it does nothing on my side
[12:08] <terrestre_> rixxon: did you find the link? left side of the screen on playing around, pure kde
[12:08] <terrestre_> how i kill my old nick?
[12:08] <rixxon> /msg nickserv ghost
[12:09] <ScorpKing> TECKBW: it will show the files as root - sudo ls /dir
[12:09] <TECKBW> nothing comes up
[12:09] <terrestre> thanks  rixxon, did you find the link?
[12:09] <TECKBW> there are some files as I copied files with sudo cp command
[12:10] <TECKBW> and they were there
[12:10] <rixxon> yea, but the scrollbar for the gnome command doesn't work so you can't copy the whole command *g*
[12:10] <TECKBW> checked on my windows machine..
[12:10] <ScorpKing> TECKBW: run mount to make sure it's mounted
[12:10] <rixxon> plus this solution removes everything, even what I manually installed (like firefox)
[12:10] <rixxon> ah well, thanks anyway
[12:11] <TECKBW> yes now I got the files visable using ls
[12:12] <TECKBW> still no access without using sudo
[12:12] <ScorpKing> ls -l
[12:12] <ScorpKing> check if ur the owner of the files
[12:13] <TECKBW> how do u do that in the terminal
[12:13] <ScorpKing> TECKBW: ls -l /dir
[12:13] <terrestre> rixxon: just take of firefox from the remove list
[12:14] <rixxon> terrestre: it was just an example, i don't remember all i pulled manually.
[12:14] <TECKBW> ok...its working now...unmounted and remounted
[12:14] <TECKBW> and its working now
[12:14] <terrestre> rixxon: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37272/
[12:14] <TECKBW> now another question how do get it to mount at boot time
[12:14] <ScorpKing> TECKBW: so you can copy stuff without sudo
[12:15] <TECKBW> yes...can also delete files without sudo
[12:15] <rixxon> terrestre: ...would remove kde for me. :P
[12:15] <TECKBW> where do I add the mount command to do it at boot time
[12:15] <ScorpKing> in /etc/fstab
[12:15] <TECKBW> I think I will be out of the chat for a while so that I can test the config.
[12:16] <terrestre> rixxon: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37273/
[12:16] <ScorpKing> TECKBW:  something like - /dev/sda1   /media/usb  auto rw,user,noauto 0  0
[12:17] <rixxon> terrestre: thanks... so is it safe? ubuntu seems so sensitive to being tinkered with
[12:17] <rixxon> terrestre: that still removes kde :p
[12:18] <rixxon> terrestre: nevermind I don't dare anyway. thanks though.
[12:18] <TECKBW> i did that earlier...got that from ubuntu forum...but it did not work....  /dev/hdb1 /home/xxx auto rw,user,noauto 0 0
[12:19] <TECKBW> and could not write to that location only using sudo
[12:20] <ScorpKing> TECKBW: add the other options i gave you - rw,user,uid=1000,gid=1000,noauto . i think that will work
[12:20] <terrestre> rixxon: that is for reinstall a complete pure kde, maybe next time use aptitude to install ubuntu-desktop :P
[12:20] <rixxon> yea... :P
[12:20] <TECKBW> ok will try that ... will have to reboot...to test....so will let u know as soon as i have rebooted
[12:20] <rixxon> gonna reinstall kubuntu when 7.10 is out anyway
[12:20] <rixxon> i want to encrypt my partitions
[12:21] <ScorpKing> TECKBW: that's a hard drive. wait
[12:21] <terrestre> yeah, its not a long wait
[12:21] <ScorpKing> rixxon: thats easy :) use loopback
[12:21] <rixxon> ScorpKing: hm?
[12:21] <ScorpKing> one sec.
[12:22] <TECKBW> yes it is...secondary hdd
[12:22] <rixxon> you mean I encrypt an image and mount it as a loopback device
[12:22] <ScorpKing> TECKBW: the noauto option there will stop it from mounting at boot
[12:22] <ScorpKing> rixxon: no. encrypt the hd and mount it as loop
[12:23] <rixxon> ScorpKing: uh..?
[12:23] <TECKBW> so do the same without the noauto
[12:23] <rixxon> ScorpKing: shouldn't I use luks ..
[12:23] <ScorpKing> rixxon: let me just help TECKBW. i'll be with u now. :)
[12:23] <rixxon> sure :D
[12:24] <TECKBW> ScorpKing--->so do the same without the noauto
[12:24] <mimo> what needs to be setup to have an auto connect to the inet on boot?
[12:24] <ScorpKing> TECKBW: the options there are for usb drives.
[12:24] <mimo> found this at /etc "pppoe_on_boot"
[12:24] <gustavo> hola
[12:24] <TECKBW> well it worked when manually mounting with sudo /dev/hdb1 etc
[12:25] <mimo> but something seems to be still missing
[12:25] <gustavo> algien en espaol
[12:25] <ScorpKing> TECKBW: change it to /dev/hdb1 /media/disk vfat  defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 0
[12:25] <ScorpKing> !es
[12:25] <Ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:25] <ScorpKing> TECKBW: when it's mounted run sudo chown 1000:1000 -R /dir/whith/the/files/
[12:25] <MacZtttlkwork> hi
[12:26] <MacZtttlkwork> !kbfx
[12:26] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kbfx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:26] <ScorpKing> TECKBW: that should do it.
[12:26] <MacZtttlkwork> I've installed kbfx and it just don't work... I can open the settings window and so on, but the KBFX menu dosen't appear...
[12:26] <TECKBW> ok...will try let u know as soon as this machine boots up...PII very slow
[12:26] <MacZtttlkwork> A PII with Kubuntu? With KDE? wow...
[12:27] <ScorpKing> rixxon: i've encrypted one of my drives and it works great. there is a howto for it. let me see if i can find it.
[12:27] <MacZtttlkwork> Wonder what's the speed of the Desktop.
[12:27] <mefisto__> wonder how much ram...
[12:27] <rixxon> ScorpKing: well plan was to use this method https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyEncryptedRootWithInstaller
[12:28] <ScorpKing> checking...
[12:28] <trpr> MacZtttlkwork: pretty amazing. my PII350 actually manages to pull duty as a tv box.. X crashes periodically but its usuable
[12:28] <ScorpKing> rixxon: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Loopback-Encrypted-Filesystem-HOWTO.html i think that's what u want.
[12:29] <MacZtttlkwork> I have a Pentium MMX 150Mhz laptop and the only usable OS I found is Puppy! And it works pretty good.
[12:29] <rixxon> thanks
[12:29] <ScorpKing> np
[12:29] <MacZtttlkwork> Remember when using the first KDE 3.x...
[12:29] <ScorpKing> rixxon: just don't forget the password or encryption u use. :)
[12:30] <MacZtttlkwork> with Mandriva 9, I think... I was impressed... and it worked in my Pentium II but somethings like resizing icons where a bit slow.
[12:30] <MacZtttlkwork> were*
[12:30] <MacZtttlkwork> so does anybody have kbfx with kubuntu feisty?
[12:31] <ScorpKing> MacZtttlkwork: mine is 340Mhz so it runs kubuntu. i have kbfx
[12:31] <rixxon> ScorpKing: i think luks is a better more modern solution
[12:32] <MacZtttlkwork> what amount of RAM?
[12:32] <MacZtttlkwork> My pentium II had 512MB :-D It worked with Windows XP and all! But a stormy day, it died :-(
[12:32] <ScorpKing> rixxon: the encryption modules come with kubuntu so you don't need to do any of the kernel stuff. just look at the losetup commands and so on so u can see how it works.
[12:32] <venik> How do I enable JAVA in Konqueror?  The appropriate boxes are checked in the settings
[12:32] <ScorpKing> MacZtttlkwork: 320MB
[12:33] <MacZtttlkwork> and it was overclocked to 330Mhz (sold as a 260mhz one)
[12:34] <MacZtttlkwork> ScorpKing, and...is KDE faster than GNOME? I'd bet it is... even when it's more advanced... but nobody would believe me. lol
[12:34] <ScorpKing> i love kde. never use gnome so i won't know :)
[12:34] <TECKBW> well this PII that I am using was given juice...xp no longer worked on it...kept hanging so I loaded fiesty and hey no freeze...works faster and more reliable than xp...with only 192mb ram
[12:34] <lavacano201014> oats
[12:35] <mefisto__> PII with 192mb ram? and kde is practical?
[12:35] <MacZtttlkwork> TECKBW pretty amazing stuff!! The only problem now is that people usually got the live cd... and if you have less tan 256... it becomes impossible to install it. Yes, I know, there's a CD designed for that.
[12:35] <venik> any clue about JAVA with Konqueror?
[12:36] <TECKBW> i installed using live cd...got the disks from shipit
[12:36] <rixxon> MacZtttlkwork: i think kde is heavier than gnome, but it cooperates better. also, kde4 will use qt4 which has been further optimized
[12:36] <TECKBW> it takes a while....for the installer to start but once started no problems at all...a long wait while changing screens....
[12:36] <ScorpKing> TECKBW: i've seen a few computers and even HD's that will run linux when windows refuse.
[12:37] <TECKBW> but not too long....click go make a cupa tea... drink the tea and the next click should be ready
[12:37] <ScorpKing> hd's with bad blocks and all
[12:37] <MacZtttlkwork> I've recently tried Vista in this computer (AMD 2600+, 512MB) and despite all the hype over there it was pretty good.... but it hanged (guess something related to the BIOS driver ?) and since it didn't supportted hardware accel for my ATI Radeon 9200 I came to the conclussion that Kubuntu was better, and even more beautiful (Vista won't let me use Aero 'cause my card has no drivers...)
[12:38] <lparry> vista :P the most slowest pile of crap that moves
[12:38] <MacZtttlkwork> It ran fine for me.
[12:38] <mefisto__> ScorpKing: it happened to me. windows screwed my ntfs partition, linux brought it back to life
[12:38] <TECKBW> I just wish my tv tuner would work on linux...well the usb one in actuall fact...but not meant for linux...meant for xp Media Center Edition...the tuner is a HP AVC 3610 and can't find out how to get it to work
[12:38] <MacZtttlkwork> But it hanged... :(
[12:38] <lparry> takes about 5 minutes to get logged on at a comptuer from school (boot to desktop)
[12:38] <ScorpKing> where can i upload a screenshot of my desktop? something like pastebin
[12:38] <lparry> 3 minutes on much newer computer