[01:21] <kiba> How come amarok doesn't work?
[01:26] <Pici> kiba: ?
[01:26] <Pici> kiba: It works for me fine.
[01:26] <d4rknorris> kiba works fine for me too.
[01:26] <kiba> I didn't brother to fix mine
[01:27] <kiba> amarokapp: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:30] <d4rknorris> kiba I didn't have to fix mine... ever try re-installing?
[01:51] <kiba> d4rknorris: how do you do that?
[01:52] <d4rknorris> kiba how did you install it? Now do the reverse. and install it again!
[01:52] <d4rknorris> like sudo aptitude remove amarok
[01:52] <d4rknorris> sudo aptitude install amarok
[02:08] <aka_youtube> Im having trouble with my nvidia geforce 6-something
[02:08] <aka_youtube> It worked on gutsy before...
[02:09] <aka_youtube> with the 100.14 nvidia driver
[02:09] <aka_youtube> sorry 100.14.11
[02:10] <aka_youtube> can someone help me with that?
[02:10] <aka_youtube> the only thing that works now is the VESA driver
[02:37] <mluser-home> Does anyone here know if ubuntu Gutsy is planning to support the new ATI ftlrx 8.41 drivers which are being released tomorrow?
[02:37] <mluser-home> *fglrx
[02:38] <SeveredCross> Um..
[02:38] <SeveredCross> xorg-driver-fglrx hasn't been updated in bloody AGES.
[02:38] <SeveredCross> It's minorly annoying.
[02:38] <SeveredCross> xorg-driver-fglrx is still using 8.37.6
[02:38] <mluser-home> I know.. but a new driver is being released tomorrow which is supposed to be significantly better than all the previous drivers
[02:39] <SeveredCross> That has nothing to do with the maintainer rebuilding the package.
[02:39] <mluser-home> was just curious if it was too late to see packages for it available in Gutsy
[02:39] <SeveredCross> Well.
[02:39] <SeveredCross> We're past package freeze right now.
[02:39] <mluser-home> I know but I read somewhere that an exception might be made for these drivers, but I cant confirm this any where on the net
[02:41] <mluser-home> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=821&num=1
[02:42] <mluser-home> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=543414
[02:44] <aka_youtube> anyone knows about the nvidia drivers?
[02:44] <^chuckmonkey^> !nvidia | aka_youtube
[02:44] <Ubotu> aka_youtube: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:44] <^chuckmonkey^> ?
[02:45] <aka_youtube> thanks
[02:47] <mluser-home> well heck.. I guess the answer is no.. here is an interview with Mark Shuttleworth
[02:48] <mluser-home> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=827&num=1
[02:52] <aka_youtube> ^chuckmonkey^ does that also work on gutsy?
[02:53] <^chuckmonkey^> aka_youtube not sure, never had to use it. I just say it and hope it helps anyone with nvidia
[02:53] <^chuckmonkey^> aka_youtube it should though
[02:54] <aka_youtube> Uboto does that also work on gutsy?
[02:55] <Xero> ubotu is not a human.
[02:58] <hydrogen> yes, it does aka_youtube
[02:58] <hydrogen> or install restricted-manager-kde
[02:58] <hydrogen> which is much more awesome
[02:58] <aka_youtube> thanks hydrogen
[03:09] <PidG30n> Hello, anyone willing to help me sort out my nvidia problem with herd5?
[03:11] <hydrogen> nope!
[03:12] <SeveredCross> Uh, herd 5? What?
[03:12] <PidG30n> aparently
[03:12] <SeveredCross> You mean Tribe 55?
[03:12] <SeveredCross> *5
[03:12] <PidG30n> Yeah :-D
[03:14] <PidG30n> I have a geforce 4, which should be supported with the nvidia-glx package. I have installed that, and modified my xconfig accordingly... but X will crash when any 3dgfx are attempted.... such as glxgears.
[03:14] <PidG30n> error log says.....
[03:15] <Drizzt321> I'm looking to try out automatix, but I'm running 7.10 and I tried the official automatix2 package from their apt sources but it says its only for 7.04
[03:15] <Drizzt321> anyone know if there is a dev version of automatix for 7.10?
[03:16] <szf> Drizzt321, why Automatix?
[03:16] <SeveredCross> Eek!
[03:16] <SeveredCross> Don't use Automatix, please.
[03:16] <PidG30n> ack, forgot where the log is
[03:16] <SeveredCross> !automatix | Drizzt321
[03:16] <Ubotu> Drizzt321: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[03:17] <Drizzt321> szf, I've heard a good bit about it and feel like seeing if it works
[03:17] <szf> see what Severed Cross linked to 1st
[03:17] <Drizzt321> oh, ouch
[03:17] <SeveredCross> You know it's a bad idea to use it if a Debian/Ubuntu developer says its bad.
[03:17] <szf> the shine is off that rose
[03:18] <SeveredCross> Yep.
[03:18] <SeveredCross> They use a lot of really nasty hacks.
[03:18] <Drizzt321> so the better place to go would be the additional apt sources that whats his name puts out for w32codecs and such?
[03:18] <SeveredCross> Like the one to check for root is particularly nasty.
[03:18] <Drizzt321> I understand
[03:18] <Drizzt321> it was mostly curiousity
[03:18] <Tm_T> !mp3 | Drizzt321
[03:18] <Ubotu> Drizzt321: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:18] <SeveredCross> Drizzt321: You can use their sources.list for w32codecs and stuff, or use Medibuntu, or something like that.
[03:19] <Drizzt321> ah, ok
[03:19] <Drizzt321> I'm normally a debian/testing user
[03:19] <Drizzt321> but felt like checking out ubuntu for a bit since I was going to reinstall my laptop anyway
[03:19] <SeveredCross> Ubuntu's good.
[03:19] <Drizzt321> yea, I've read quite a bit
[03:19] <Drizzt321> so far its not too bad
[03:20] <Drizzt321> I kinda don't like gnome, so I'm thinking of switching over to e17
[03:20] <SeveredCross> It's a good stepping stone into the Linux world, and you can either stick with it and use it or move onto different, more complex distros (Slackware, Gentoo, Debian, etc.)
[03:20] <SeveredCross> Eh.
[03:20] <Drizzt321> what I was using before
[03:20] <SeveredCross> e17 on Ubuntu is iffy IIRC.
[03:20] <Drizzt321> oh
[03:20] <szf> Drizzt321, and install VLC while you're at it, never lets me down like Totem
[03:20] <Drizzt321> :(
[03:20] <SeveredCross> VLC >> Totem.
[03:20] <Drizzt321> szf:  I'm an mplayer guy myself
[03:20] <szf> ah
[03:20] <SeveredCross> mplayer is nice, but the GUI is butt ugly.
[03:20] <Drizzt321> but vlc is still very nice
[03:20] <SeveredCross> (gmplayer)
[03:20] <Drizzt321> oh, no kidding
[03:21] <Drizzt321> which is why I usually use it from the cli
[03:21] <Drizzt321> lol
[03:21] <Drizzt321> ahh, theres the restricted stuff
[03:22] <PidG30n> sooo
[03:22] <SeveredCross> Yes?
[03:22] <PidG30n> just ran glxgears, and X crashed
[03:22] <Drizzt321> ouch
[03:22] <SeveredCross> Oh. Still nVidia issues.
[03:22] <PidG30n> mhmm
[03:22] <SeveredCross> Any X log or anything?
[03:23] <SeveredCross> dmesg?
[03:23] <PidG30n> glxgears log, or xlog
[03:23] <PidG30n> I will look
[03:23] <PidG30n> What's dmesg?
[03:23] <SeveredCross> Issue dmesg at a terminal.
[03:23] <Drizzt321> never had X crash from glx gears with nvidia binary drivers
[03:23] <SeveredCross> Pastebin the last 10-15 lines.
[03:23] <szf> >> (on moving to) more complex distros thought of giving pure debian a chanve
[03:23] <szf> s/chanve/chance/
[03:23] <SeveredCross> I've thought about doing pure Debian but I'm lazy.
[03:23] <PidG30n> dmesg gives lots of info
[03:23] <szf> but am frightened of spending *even more time* fixing
[03:23] <Drizzt321> pure debian isn't that bad
[03:24] <SeveredCross> PidG30n: You only need the last 20 lines or so.
[03:24] <SeveredCross> Issue dmesg | tail -n20
[03:24] <Drizzt321> it only really takes fixing if you specifically and intentionally mess around with stuff
[03:24] <Drizzt321> like I normally do...
[03:24] <Drizzt321> lol
[03:24] <SeveredCross> Yeah, me too.
[03:24] <SeveredCross> Hackety hack hack.
[03:24] <PidG30n> should I paste to you? lol
[03:24] <SeveredCross> No, no!
[03:24] <PidG30n> jk
[03:24] <SeveredCross> Pastebin, for my own sanity.
[03:25] <szf> today was the 1st time that Gutsy actually had sound a boot
[03:25] <kevinO> where do i find the emerald themes pack?
[03:25] <PidG30n> hmm
[03:25] <SeveredCross> kevinO: You have to install from Feisty, there isn't one for Gutsy.
[03:26] <kevinO> hmm, do I add that repository?
[03:26] <PidG30n> agp device in legacy mode, falling back to 2.x
[03:26] <PidG30n> putting agp v2 device into 4xmode
[03:27] <SeveredCross> kevinO: I wouldn't...I'd just use the online package search.
[03:28] <SeveredCross> Google emerald-themes ubuntu you'll find it.
[03:28] <kevinO> ok
[03:28] <PidG30n> xorg doesn't seem to give a crash log
[03:28] <PidG30n> glxgears has a crash log
[03:29] <Drizzt321> PidG30n: you try the /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[03:29] <Drizzt321> theres usually some info in there
[03:29] <Drizzt321> even if it crashes
[03:30] <PidG30n> yeah, that log doesn't seem to say anything about crashing... the last few lines are about /dev/input/wacom ... ps2 mouse enable succeeded
[03:30] <Drizzt321> ah
[03:30] <Drizzt321> guess not
[03:30] <SeveredCross> Try
[03:30] <SeveredCross> /var/log/Xorg.20.log
[03:30] <SeveredCross> I have one of those, looks like it might be a more detailed log.
[03:31] <PidG30n> there is no .20
[03:31] <PidG30n> there is, however, Xorg.0.log.old
[03:31] <PidG30n> but it may be from a past failed attempt at configuring the nvidia driver in xorg.conf
[03:33] <PidG30n> the current (Xorg.0.log) indicates, Loading extension NV-GLX, NVIDIA 3D Acceleration Architecture Initialized,
[03:36] <PidG30n> hmm...
[03:36] <TerraMaster> is it just me or are all my updates not installing?
[03:36] <Drizzt321> ?
[03:36] <kevinO> whats the best way to have emerald load? wuth the icon or the script
[03:36] <PidG30n> the glxgears crash log... they only things possibly useful I could find were..
[03:36] <PidG30n>  glxgears crashed with SIGSEGV
[03:37] <PidG30n> it tells me before submitting crash info, I should update:  lsb-base, x11-common and see if the problem persists.
[03:37] <PidG30n> somehow I doubt updating will help.
[03:37] <Drizzt321> why not give it a try? they might have fixed something recently
[03:38] <Drizzt321> unless you _just_ updated
[03:38] <PidG30n> just those two?
[03:38] <Drizzt321> thats what it says
[03:38] <Drizzt321> or just do a general update
[03:38] <PidG30n> Well, my past experience has been that whenever I 'update' an already unstable release, it breaks.
[03:38] <PidG30n> hehe
[03:38] <Drizzt321> good point
[03:38] <TerraMaster> !chat
[03:38] <Ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[03:38] <kevinO> how do i get emerald to load automatically?
[03:39] <TerraMaster> What is the chat forum for ubuntu
[03:39] <PidG30n> have you done the general update with 7.10?
[03:39] <Drizzt321> hmm...that GAIM one needs to change, to pidgin
[03:39] <TerraMaster> what is emerald?
[03:39] <Drizzt321> TerraMaster: for 7.04 and previous? #ubuntu
[03:39] <kevinO> a window manager
[03:39] <TerraMaster> well I ment the gerneral chatter and I do have gutsy
[03:39] <Drizzt321> thats also the general chatter
[03:39] <Drizzt321> but, of course, if you have gusty in here
[03:39] <Drizzt321> hehe
[03:40] <TerraMaster> XD
[03:40] <kevinO> no they dont like it if you chat in there
[03:40] <Drizzt321> or if you want a mix of tech and completely random chat go to ##linux
[03:40] <Drizzt321> sometimes there are some really OT conversations
[03:40] <PidG30n> I suppose I will try updating these two packages
[03:40] <TerraMaster> Thats why I think there is an ubuntu-chatter
[03:40] <Drizzt321> oh
[03:40] <TerraMaster> I almost whacked my horce with a mystril axe
[03:41] <PidG30n> heh
[03:41] <TerraMaster> I love how random harvest moon is
[03:42] <TerraMaster> curse the large disto update
[03:42] <TerraMaster> fetching 50 of 103
[03:43] <PidG30n> heh
[03:44] <PidG30n> okay, apt-get install lsb-base tells me, could not find package
[03:44] <DanaG> Heh, just wait until I get my backup back onto my system -- I'll have a week's worth of updates to do.
[03:44] <TerraMaster> ouch
[03:44] <DanaG> Yay, GbE!  Yay, mirrors.kernel.org!
[03:44] <DanaG> I can go in the lab, at Cal Poly.
[03:47] <PidG30n> okay, I am just going to do a massive update... has anyone broken their system from a general update in here?
[03:47] <PidG30n> just curious.
[03:47] <PidG30n> 273 updates available. :-o
[03:47] <szf> ummm - do you get the "partial update" msg?
[03:48] <PidG30n> I haven't tried updating yet.
[03:49] <szf> i wince at the large updates - so far passing on the "partial" until the msg goes away
[03:49] <kevinO> how do i get emerald to start automatically, I run emerald --replace in terminal but as soon as i close terminal it shits down the window manager
[03:49] <szf> ...usually when there's 20% more packages
[03:50] <PidG30n> Hmm
[03:50] <PidG30n> i don't know what the partial update msg is?
[03:50] <szf> (it did say - "don't use Gutsy as your desktop" - and that's what I did)
[03:50] <PidG30n> hehe
[03:51] <szf> wanted to luv feisty
[03:51] <szf> but she sucked
[03:51] <PidG30n> I thought it said, don't use it as a workstation
[03:51] <PidG30n> I am using it as a playstation, not a workstation :-)
[03:51] <TerraMaster> I find that strange
[03:51] <TerraMaster> Unless your working at playing I think your fine
[03:56] <szf> anyone else get the compiz-effect "greyout" on firefox (when CPU jump 98+%)?
[03:56] <szf> is it just my ffox?
[03:56] <TerraMaster> I have no idea what you are talking about
[03:57] <TerraMaster> but if it gets greyed out that means the comps just too busy
[03:57] <szf> then i must think you aint seen it ;-)
[03:57] <szf> yeah, but on what? flashplayer?
[03:57] <szf> javascript?
[03:57] <TerraMaster> who knows
[03:58] <TerraMaster> System log?
[03:58] <szf> it only happens in ffox - so I suspect its isolated
[03:58] <szf> (appears to happen in ffox)
[03:59] <TerraMaster> well unfortunat
[03:59] <szf> yeah
[03:59] <SeveredCross> I've gotten it a bunch of times with Firefox, and it's just because Firefox freezes up a lot.
[03:59] <szf> dunno - part of the drive to abandoning feisty was ffox issues
[04:00] <TerraMaster> weird its removing a sexy python and replacing it with python sexy
[04:00] <szf> guess it just follows me now
[04:00] <SeveredCross> TerraMaster: It's just a package rename. :)
[04:00] <SeveredCross> To make it make more sense.
[04:00] <SeveredCross> Cuz sexy-python is just Python bindings to libsexy IIRC.
[04:00] <TerraMaster> it just sounds wrong
[04:00] <SeveredCross> python-sexy makes more sense.
[04:01] <TerraMaster> ewww... bad thought
[04:01] <TerraMaster> sexy bindings
[04:02] <TerraMaster> THE YAKS ARE COMING!
[04:03] <TerraMaster> (yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak)
[04:03] <TerraMaster> OH NO THERE HERE!
[04:10] <Xero> !info pornview
[04:10] <Ubotu> pornview: Image and movie viewer/manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2pre1-7 (gutsy), package size 223 kB, installed size 664 kB
[04:10] <Xero> hehe
[04:10] <TerraMaster> that sounds so wrong
[04:11] <^chuckmonkey^> o_O
[04:13] <DanaG> I get the greying with Firefox.
[04:13] <^chuckmonkey^> DanaG thats cus firefox is crashing/temporarily freezing..
[04:13] <Xero> pornview...
[04:13] <DanaG> It's annoying -- you have to close and reopen the browser, or reload compiz and break focus in everything, to get it back to normal.
[04:13] <^chuckmonkey^> DanaG no.. you just need to run killall firefox-bin
[04:13] <DanaG> Or I can continue browsing greyed out.
[04:13] <^chuckmonkey^> DanaG then reopen the browser
[04:14] <^chuckmonkey^> unless its a different greying out..
[04:14] <DanaG> The thing is this:
[04:14] <DanaG> It freezes.  It turns grey.  It stays like that for a while.  Then it unfreezes -- but doesn't un-grey.
[04:14] <DanaG> And that "a while" may be 10 or 30 seconds.
[04:15] <szf> its b&w teevee
[04:15] <Xero> lol
[04:15] <^chuckmonkey^> DanaG o_O I just kill it when it freezes, then re-open and tell it to load the last session
[04:16] <DanaG> I actually exit it NORMALLY.
[04:16] <^chuckmonkey^> DanaG sissy.
[04:16] <^chuckmonkey^> it works fine when I run killall
[04:17] <szf> *cough* should ffox not crash?
[04:22] <d4rkmonkey> szf no. its a feature.
[04:24] <mluser-home> I have an Asus M6800N laptop and suspend is not working with the 2.6.22-10 and 11, if I boot into the 2.6.20 kernel from feisty suspend works great
[04:45] <coldsteal> hello
[04:46] <coldsteal> i am trying to find where i can get 7.10
[04:46] <coldsteal> bata or alfa
[04:51] <TerraMaster> sigh my partial update is still not done
[04:56] <martalli> how can I start desktop effects in kubuntu gutsy?  I can't find it in the appearances tabs?
[04:57] <coldsteal> martalli: where do i get gutsy?
[04:57] <martalli> I got it from distrowatch
[04:58] <martalli> http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=04429
[04:58] <martalli> There's also a page on the kubuntu website...
[04:59] <coldsteal> ok
[05:00] <martalli> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/gutsy/tribe-5/
[05:00] <coldsteal> martalli: i got it thanks
[05:00] <martalli> This release of kubuntu has a great implementation of kde
[05:01] <martalli> If only....kde4...but it can only be ready when its ready I guess =)
[05:01] <SeveredCross> Anyone know why/how to speed up USB in Ubuntu?
[05:01] <SeveredCross> I feel like it shouldn't take me 10-12 hours to copy 60 GB across USB 2.0
[05:02] <martalli> Are you sure one end of the line isn't 1.1?
[05:02] <SeveredCross> It shouldn't be.
[05:02] <martalli> Some older boards had a mix of 2.0 and 1.1 usb ports
[05:02] <SeveredCross> The external hard drive specified 2.0 and my computer is a year old, no USB 1.1 that I know of.
[05:02] <martalli> (like 2003 or 2004 at the latest
[05:02] <coldsteal> so if i get tribe5 will it upgrade fine
[05:03] <coldsteal> it it worth it?
[05:03] <coldsteal> is there packages
[05:03] <martalli> coldsteal: I just installed kubuntu and it is working fine again
[05:03] <martalli> coldsteal: However, there were about 300+ mb of updates
[05:03] <martalli> I guess if bandwidth is dear, you might just wait to see if trube 6 is almost on the way
[05:04] <martalli> SeveredCross: Beats me
[05:04] <SeveredCross> [353195.708000]  usb 5-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 12
[05:04] <SeveredCross> Says dmesg.
[05:05] <martalli> SeveredCross: Maybe you need a different usb cable.  Are you using the cable that came with your hard drive, or just another that fits?
[05:05] <SeveredCross> The one that came.
[05:05] <martalli> Well, then I'm stumped.  Sorry to waste your time
[05:05] <martalli> =)
[05:05] <coldsteal> martalli: im just saying im reinstalling 2night and im debating if i should goto gusty now or just wait
[05:05] <SeveredCross> That's alright, never wasted.
[05:06] <martalli> coldsteal: I would go for the gutsy
[05:07] <coldsteal> well r there really big diff?
[05:07] <nemik> so new dist-upgrade breaks a lot of stuff? some people on forums are complaining about PAM and hal preventing even login?
[05:07] <SeveredCross> Haven't seen anything like that from anyone.
[05:08] <nemik> OOffice-upgrade breaking things too?
[05:08] <martalli> coldsteal: I don't kow if it is very dramatic, but for the most part it has been working great.  In my case, however, the intel HDA audio isn't working properly
[05:08] <nemik> SeveredCross: how long ago since you dist-upgraded?
[05:08] <SeveredCross> I've been at Gutsy since Tribe 2.
[05:08] <coldsteal> my audio was great then it messed up and i never was able to fix it
[05:08] <SeveredCross> I have the HDA Intel issue that martalli mentions, but other than that nothing.
[05:08] <martalli> nemik: OOo is opening fine for me
[05:08] <coldsteal> well i got it back but the mic doesnt work
[05:08] <SeveredCross> And my only issue with HDA Intel is that LFE is not working.
[05:09] <martalli> I think they will get the HDA intel audio working eventually
[05:09] <nemik> Tribe 3 for me, but i mean when was last time you dist-upgraded? i tried now and there's many packages to do
[05:09] <nemik> btw thread i'm referrring to: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=548522
[05:10] <martalli> Does kubuntu gutsy come with compiz or compiz-fusion by default?
[05:10] <martalli> I had previously upgrade-manager -d'd from feisty, so compiz may have just ave been upgraded from feisty
[05:46] <ziroday> wow, theres a load of new games in the repos
[05:49] <blued> like what?
[06:49] <berbsd> does anybody know how to turn on logging in evolution?
[06:55] <tonyyarusso> berbsd: maybe --debug=FILE ?
[06:56] <berbsd> doesn
[06:56] <berbsd> t seem to work
[06:57] <berbsd> I thought there was an environment variable to enable logging. I recall something from a looong time ago :-)
[06:57] <berbsd> fyi, I am trying to understand why ldap queries don't work while they work perfectly in thunderbird...
[07:06] <sparr> is there a #ubuntu-1?  im installing packages from dapper
[07:07] <sparr> -2  :)
[07:08] <eck> #ubuntu is for all currently supported versions of ubuntu, including dapper
[07:10] <sparr> what if im mixing dapper with gutsy?
[07:10] <eck> you're trying to install dapper packages from within gutsy?
[07:10] <sparr> yes
[07:10] <eck> good luck :-P
[07:11] <sparr> yeah, thats about where i ended up  :)
[07:11] <sparr> support for one of my cameras broke in edgy, so i need to waaaay downgrade gphoto2 and libgphoto2-2
[07:11] <sparr> but they arent playing nice
[07:12] <eck> have you filed a bug report?
[07:12] <sparr> i wasnt sure if it was a bug
[07:13] <sparr> get told all the time that mixing releases is unsupported
[07:13] <eck> well it's a bug if it doesn't work post-dapper
[07:13] <eck> i don't think you can file a bug if you're mixing repositories though
[07:14] <eck> you might be able to install the old versions by pinning the versions to whatever the old release numbers are, but that might not work if the dependencies are too complex
[07:14] <sparr> not mixing repositories per se, i went and got the debs manually  :)
[07:27] <nemik> did the new libpam update break anything for anyone?
[07:36] <joebob777as7> why does it take so long to ltsp-build-client in edubuntu gutsy?
[07:37] <joebob777as7> am I the only one out of 171 to be awake?
[07:44] <nemik> did the new libpam update break anything for anyone?
[08:10] <aslan> hey guys... I am running gutsy amd64
[08:11] <joebob777as7> welcome to the club aslan...
[08:11] <aslan> I am trying to run nspluginwrapper, and it is erroring out looking for a file... I have also tried to install firefox32 and it errors out looking for the same file
[08:11] <aslan> joebob777as7: thanks :)
[08:11] <aslan> the file is libXcomposite.so.1
[08:12] <blued> hehe, I thought they'd fixed that
[08:12] <aslan> and it's nowhere on my system... any ideas where I can get that from ?
[08:12] <blued> Bug 138145
[08:12] <Ubotu> Launchpad bug 138145 in ia32-libs "missing ia32 libXcomposite" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/138145
[08:12] <aslan> I ran nspluginwrapper successfully a couple months ago, and never saw this error before
[08:12] <aslan> blued: damnit.. so there's no workaround yet ?
[08:13] <blued> yeah, theres a really easy workaround on the bug thingie
[08:13] <aslan> blued: ok cool, I'm looking at it
[08:13] <blued> you basically download libXcomposite for i386, extract the two files and put them in /usr/lib32
[08:13] <aslan> blued: lol ya that is easy :)
[08:20] <rockets> Anybody running gutsy on an inspiron 1501?
[08:22] <joebob777as7> rockets, you'd be better to search google for that one especially because of the time.
[08:25] <rockets> joebob777as7, yeah, i have, all i find is stuff about tribe 2, tribe 3, thats too ol
[08:25] <rockets> olf*
[08:25] <rockets> old*
[08:25] <rockets> grr
[08:34] <joebob777as7> what are you wondering?
[08:34] <joebob777as7> rockets, ?
[08:38] <rockets> im wondering if the latest gutsy boots and runs properly on it
[08:40] <joebob777as7> rockets, it should. i've been testing since tribe 3 on several laptops and never had a problem just getting them up and running. In fact i am already telling new converts to skip feisty all together.
[08:40] <rockets> yeah but tribe 5 didnt work
[08:40] <rockets> for me that is
[08:40] <rockets> thats a horrible reccomendation joebob777as7, even if gutsy works today it could break tomorrow
[08:41] <rockets> its not even beta
[08:41] <joebob777as7> rockets, you can download the iso of the daily build and see if it boots to the live portion. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/
[08:41] <aslan> blued: cool thanks man
[08:41] <aslan> that got it all working :)
[08:41] <joebob777as7> well thank you rockets i have had 4/4 good reports ... sorry your dell sucks
[08:44] <leperkhanz> I want to make a screencast, what software should I use to record?  I'm looking for the easiest possible way.
[08:44] <XSource> gtk-recordMyDesktop
[08:44] <leperkhanz> what settings would be optimal for youtube upload?
[08:45] <leperkhanz> and thanks, btw. :)\
[08:46] <XSource> np
[08:46] <joebob777as7> leperkhanz, alternative is http://xvidcap.sourceforge.net/
[08:49] <leperkhanz> thnx.
[08:49] <leperkhanz> will try gtk first.
[08:49] <leperkhanz> like the jack option :D
[09:41] <musikgoat> don't know if its gutsy related, but is having very low wispering speakers common with the beta?
[09:41] <musikgoat> its been like this since the upgrade
[09:44] <blued> could be an early sign of schizophrenia..
[09:44] <blued> what are your speakers saying to you?
[09:47] <musikgoat> using realtek alc861 oss mixer
[09:50] <blued> does it happen always or just with certian apps or what?
[09:50] <musikgoat> all sound it seems, media player, flash, vlc
[09:53] <blued> check to see if PCM and Master are all the way up in mixer.  if so, I'd try logging out and setting up a second account to see if the problem follows.  If not, it's a config file somewhere in your profile that didn't get updated with a new setting
[09:54] <musikgoat> kk
[09:54] <blued> of course, it could also be a bug.. I'm running a VIA onboard audio thingie on my laptop here, so I'm not sure about the chipset.. no problems though here :)
[10:28] <leperkhanz> Hey, I figured out how to do a screencast and record Tvtime real time, but it's all jumpy.  The video isn't smooth at all and hangs at points.
[10:28] <leperkhanz> suggestions?
[10:28] <leperkhanz> I just want to make a simple youtube video.
[10:29] <leperkhanz> from video onto a tv capture card.
[10:29] <leperkhanz> then I'll probably use kino or picasa.
[10:54] <leperkhanz> OK, I installed MythTV, now how do I make it record a show?
[10:56] <SlimG> I'm getting alot of "device not accepting address" errors in kern.log when trying to connect different usb devices, might this be a known gutsy problem?
[11:20] <nIRV_> hi -- what does rhythmbox, gedit and gnome terminal have in common that could make these applications freeze upon resume from suspend? (freeze doesn't affect apps like firefox, synaptic, gnucalculator, etc.) (sorry, I'm lagging +/- 10 sec)
[11:29] <nIRV_> gnome terminal freezes, but xterm doesn't ...
[11:37] <keram> how come my mouse stopped working
[11:37] <keram> my track point mouse
[11:37] <keram> i even went in with x2vnc and the mouse wont work
[11:37] <keram> :/
[11:38] <nanonyme> did you upgrade between when it worked and when it didn't work?
[11:38] <keram> nope
[11:38] <keram> even shows up on dmesg when i plug in a usb mouse
[11:39] <nanonyme> dunno, maybe you've done something at some point that borked your xorg.conf
[11:39] <keram> closed lid and xscreensaver came on?
[11:44] <jmg> flash player?
[11:44] <jmg> !flash
[11:44] <Ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[11:53] <jussi01> !gnash
[11:53] <Ubotu> An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[11:53] <hetauma> hi can some1 link me a guide for upgradig from feisty to gutsy
[11:54] <jussi01> !upgrade
[11:54] <Ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[11:58] <Hobbsee> hetauma: "if you have to ask, you probably shouldnt be running gutsy"
[11:59] <Hobbsee> NOTE TO ANYONE UPGRADING PAM:  YOUR X SESSION WILL BE STOPPED, YOU MAY NEED TO MANUALLY RESTART IT.
[12:00] <aslan> hetauma: google is your friend
[12:00] <aslan> Hobbsee: I just upgraded.. are you saying it turns off the gdm service ?
[12:00] <aslan> Hobbsee: it didn't kill X in the middle of the upgrade
[12:00] <Hobbsee> aslan: it should restart X, you get dropped back to a console
[12:00] <aslan> Hobbsee: ya it didn't do that
[12:01] <aslan> not during the upgrade of PAM here
[12:01] <Hobbsee> hmm.  todays' upgrade?
[12:01] <Hobbsee> it should have, i think
[12:01] <aslan> Hobbsee: yep
[12:01] <Hobbsee> aslan: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/139074 and such
[12:01] <Ubotu> Launchpad bug 139074 in adept "System design flaw for GUI applications for package management" [Undecided,Confirmed] 
[12:01] <aslan> Hobbsee: I ran apt-get update; apt-get upgrade from cli
[12:01] <Hobbsee> it's at least for kde then
[12:02] <__tim> same here, x session continued to work just fine
[12:02] <aslan> Hobbsee: ya it updated gdm but it didn't actually restart it.
[12:02] <__tim> (gnome)
[12:02] <aslan> gnome here as well.
[12:02] <Hobbsee> hm.  may just be KDE
[12:20] <nIRV_> anyone has been facing application freezes with gutsy after suspend->resume ? (rhythmbox, gnome terminal, etc.)
[01:08] <Ayabara> I'm running gutsy with two monitors. A laptop with 1400x1050, and an lcd of 1600x1200 connected via dvi to a docking station. How can I check which resolution is being sent to the screens?
[01:08] <Ayabara> I have ATI graphics and the restricted driver
[01:09] <Ayabara> The "Screen and Graphics Preferences" doesn't really seem to do the trick for me...
[01:12] <Ayabara> Should the mentioned config tool work event though I am using ATIs restricted driver?
[01:30] <jussi01> hehe, delayed reaction :P
[01:32] <jussi01> Hobbsee: true... but I didnt look... :P
[01:33] <jussi01> Hobbsee: hows things going? are you enjoying life as a core dev?
[01:33] <jscinoz> hey guys, im trying to make a deb package using EPM, any ideas how you can use complex package names? (it wont let me put a "." or "-" in it)
[01:33] <jussi01> epm?
[01:34] <Hobbsee> jussi01: busy - assignments :(
[01:34] <Hobbsee> jussi01: and lots of stuff on the motu-uvf / release team side of things
[01:35] <jussi01> Hobbsee: sounds like lots of fun.... :P
[01:37] <jussi01> Hobbsee: have you noticed how dead #kubuntu is?
[01:38] <Hobbsee> jussi01: i hadnt been watching it
[01:39] <jussi01> Hobbsee: we had 32 mins of inactivity...
[01:40] <Hobbsee> wow
[01:44] <leperkhanz> What is the best way to record video from a tvtuner card?
[01:44] <leperkhanz> quick and easy?
[02:01] <jussi01> leperkhanz: mythtv?
[02:04] <slytherin> anyone seeing high CPu usage when trying to open terminal from desktop, using nautilus-open-terminal extension.
[02:57] <pvandewyngaerde> usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libXcomposite.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:58] <slytherin> pvandewyngaerde: I suppose there is a bug already for that
[02:58] <pvandewyngaerde> and a solution ?
[02:59] <pvandewyngaerde> i386 ?? i have 64 bit
[03:02] <slytherin> pvandewyngaerde: I don't know solution. Try gnash perhaps for flash
[03:06] <pvandewyngaerde> we should let AMD takeover adobe, and open specs for flash and photoshop and stuff
[03:25] <gabdrach> hi all
[03:26] <gabdrach> after yesterday upgrade, my swiftfox and thunderbird (standalone version)
[03:26] <gabdrach> are broken
[03:26] <gabdrach> swiftfox/swiftfox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:26] <gabdrach> but libgtk is installed :(
[03:33] <gabdrach> anybody awake?
[03:33] <gabdrach> :P
[03:35] <kekZpriester> sure i'm awake, but i can't help you =P
[03:37] <slytherin> gabdrach: I sure can find that file in my installation
[03:37] <gabdrach> file exist. but i get that error. btw, im in amd64 running 32bits of swiftfox
[03:38] <kekZpriester> btw, my xchat is quite smart, slytherin is in a
[03:38] <kekZpriester> dark green
[03:38] <slytherin> kekZpriester: LOL
[03:41] <jeff_> Is it likely that running the gutsy kernel causes instability when running multiple X servers?
[03:51] <terlmann> Ahh... my apt list is bigger than ever...
[03:51] <terlmann> about 30 entries now
[03:51] <terlmann> does anyone want to share ?
[03:51] <terlmann> I have a ton of good entries
[03:52] <terlmann> but somehow I feel I am missing a few
[03:52] <terlmann> something rare and special
[03:52] <ikonia> terlmann are you having a proble m?
[03:52] <ikonia> problem ?
[03:52] <terlmann> no ;-D
[03:52] <jsomers> I only have the default ones and medibuntu, and I got everything I need
[03:52] <mikedep333> hey, gutsy just failed to update for me, how do I clean this up / continue updating my system?
[03:52] <terlmann> On the contrary , my Gutsy install is working fine
[03:52] <jsomers> I don't see why so many extra repositories are needed
[03:53] <terlmann> well I have e17, second life  , looking glass 3d... and all from apt through synaptic
[03:53] <jsomers> mikedep333: how did it fail?
[03:53] <jsomers> just an apt-get upgrade or from feisty -> gutsy?
[03:53] <mikedep333> HAL failed to update or something
[03:54] <mikedep333> from one revision of gutsy to another
[03:54] <mikedep333> an apt-get upgrade, but from synaptic
[03:54] <Pici> Do you have errors you can pastebin?
[03:54] <terlmann> really, my gutsy is as stable as feisty.... kde is always breaking and everything is as slow as the day I installed it. :-D
[03:54] <mikedep333> sorry, I just closed synaptic
[03:54] <terlmann> so I use fluxbox
[03:54] <terlmann> mike
[03:54] <terlmann> try this
[03:54] <kousotu> any ststus report on Bug #139000
[03:54] <Ubotu> Launchpad bug 139000 in fretsonfire "Firefox doesn't find alsa, works EVERYwhere else" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139000
[03:54] <mikedep333> unless it is in a log somewhere
[03:54] <kousotu> status*
[03:54] <terlmann> sudo aptitude dist-upgrade -f
[03:54] <ikonia> kousotu has the bug been updated ?
[03:54] <mikedep333> ok, thx
[03:55] <terlmann> is there any tool that lets me back up my GPG keys and repo list ?
[03:55] <ikonia> cp
[03:55] <Pici> cp
[03:55] <ikonia> ha ha
[03:55] <Pici> ikonia: hehe :)
[03:56] <terlmann> I get tired of switching distros every so often and having to set it all up again
[03:56] <terlmann> No , I mean it. I don't know how to backup my repo signing keys
[03:56] <terlmann> and I have ones for 30 repos
[03:56] <terlmann> well closer to 20
[03:56] <ikonia> terlmann you can do a dump of all keys with apt
[03:57] <ikonia> then re-import
[03:57] <terlmann> how ?
[03:57] <ikonia> you'll have to man apt as I've not got an apt box to hand
[03:57] <terlmann> ok
[03:57] <ikonia> which I appricaite is pain
[03:57] <terlmann> your running... what ?
[03:57] <ikonia> terlmann pardon ?
[03:58] <terlmann> what distro are you using ?
[03:58] <ikonia> ooh right
[03:58] <terlmann> ldconfig deferred processing now taking place  << anyone else getting this ?
[03:58] <ikonia> at the moment I'm on a development linux build for a compbatability test with glibc-svn and binutils-svn
[03:59] <terlmann> so its a LFS system ?
[03:59] <ikonia> no
[03:59] <terlmann> so what is it ?
[03:59] <ikonia> I'm one of the authors of LFS and Cross-LFS so I design the build process for LFS/Cross-LFS
[03:59] <ikonia> so its a test build process
[03:59] <terlmann> so then its LFS - alpha\
[03:59] <ikonia> if it works parts of it may get filtered down into LFS
[03:59] <ikonia> yeah, sort of
[04:00] <ikonia> but I dont' think this is going anywhere, too many issues curently
[04:00] <ikonia> way beyond alpha
[04:00] <aka_youtube> is anyone experiencing the "open with" not working problem?
[04:00] <slytherin> terlmann: I have seen thst ldconfig thing
[04:00] <terlmann> is there any real speed gain for a i686 machine when using a source based machine (like LFS) over a binary package based os ( like ubuntu) ?
[04:00] <ikonia> terlmann no
[04:00] <terlmann> llo slytherin
[04:01] <ikonia> terlmann I assure you not
[04:01] <terlmann> k
[04:01] <terlmann>  openoffice.org-writer depends on openoffice.org-core (= 1:2.3.0~rc1-1ubuntu1); however:
[04:01] <terlmann>   Version of openoffice.org-core on system is 1:2.3.0~oog680m1-1ubuntu3.
[04:01] <mikedep333> aka_youtube: I will try that out once my system starts up (it is running fs.ck now)
[04:01] <aka_youtube> for about a month now, my "open with" and "open in terminal" (NAUTILUS) don't work anymore
[04:02] <aka_youtube> thx mikedep333
[04:02] <terlmann> something goingon
[04:02] <Kou_Xchat> [08:54]  <kousotu> any status report on Bug #139000
[04:02] <Ubotu> Launchpad bug 139000 in fretsonfire "Firefox doesn't find alsa, works EVERYwhere else" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139000
[04:02] <Kou_Xchat> aparently not..
[04:02] <Kou_Xchat> there's a BIG bug in Konversation now :(
[04:02] <terlmann> I love my konvi
[04:02] <ikonia> love it 7.10 is in alpha and people think that frets on fire is going to be addressed in under 24 hours
[04:02] <terlmann> not me
[04:02] <Kou_Xchat> lol
[04:03] <terlmann> I dont even use half my os
[04:03] <mikedep333> well, it is after the feature freeze
[04:03] <nanonyme> ikonia, well, isn't it if the users decide to fix it? :)
[04:03] <terlmann> I just like to have it ;-)
[04:03] <Kou_Xchat> terlman: I can't see any OUTPUT text
[04:03] <terlmann> what you mean ?
[04:03] <Kou_Xchat> I cn type all day though
[04:03] <ikonia> Kou_Xchat is the bug your referecing the logging bug ?
[04:03] <Kou_Xchat> I'll show you
[04:03] <terlmann> any other unusual symptoms ?
[04:03] <ikonia> nanonyme say again please, I didn't quite understand what you meant
[04:03] <Kou_Xchat> ikonia, no
[04:03] <terlmann> like user list blank ?
[04:04] <terlmann> or menu text disappearing /
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[04:04] <Kou_Xchat> last 3 lines I see on Konversation
[04:04] <terlmann> darn
[04:04] <mikedep333> aka_youtube: "open with" for me works
[04:05] <mikedep333> I forget how to enable "open in terminal"
[04:05] <Kou_Xchat> yer tellin me...  I HATE Xchat....
[04:05] <slytherin> terlmann: Did you do dist-upgrade?
[04:05] <nanonyme> ikonia, that is, frets on fire users could become devs and try to help fixing the problem
[04:05] <terlmann> slytherine
[04:05] <terlmann> no
[04:05] <terlmann> that was synaptic screwing up ;-)
[04:05] <ikonia> nanonyme not in this situation
[04:06] <ikonia> nanonyme the user is new to linux
[04:06] <nanonyme> ah
[04:06] <nanonyme> why is he using gutsy then?
[04:06] <Kou_Xchat> my pc hhates fiesty
[04:06] <ikonia> nanonyme don't open that can of worms, we've been through it 100000 times
[04:06] <Kou_Xchat> it's too new and there are more problems with it thn gutsy
[04:06] <terlmann> AHA
[04:06] <terlmann> I didnt have all my files downloaded
[04:07] <terlmann> so they coudnt install
[04:07] <terlmann> Kou :
[04:07] <nanonyme> ikonia, alright. fine by me. i guess i'm out of solutions then. carry on :)
[04:07] <terlmann> if it hates fiesty
[04:07] <terlmann> how does it like warty ?
[04:07] <terlmann> :-P
[04:07] <Kou_Xchat> ??
[04:07] <jeff_> Is it likely that running the gutsy kernel causes instability when running multiple X servers?
[04:08] <terlmann> jeff_ no idea
[04:08] <terlmann> try it ;-)
[04:08] <aka_youtube> mikedep333: sudo aptitude nautilus-open-terminal
[04:08] <jeff_> I am lol
[04:08] <terlmann> you can report back if it breaks ;-)
[04:08] <ikonia> jeff_ a few people have complained of problems with the newer nvidia drivers
[04:08] <terlmann> well
[04:08] <terlmann> I complained about nvidia
[04:08] <jeff_> i'm running an intel gfx chip
[04:08] <Kou_Xchat> lol
[04:08] <terlmann> but it wasnt then
[04:08] <jeff_> it's a laptop
[04:08] <terlmann> them
[04:08] <Kou_Xchat> jeff_ which one?
[04:09] <terlmann> it was my card
[04:09] <terlmann> piece of crap
[04:09] <jeff_> toshiba satellite p206-s6337
[04:09] <jeff_> 205'
[04:09] <Kou_Xchat> I meant the intel card
[04:09] <Kou_Xchat> lol
[04:09] <terlmann> AHH
[04:09] <terlmann> a toshiba devil lappie
[04:09] <mluser-work> Anyone having problems putting their laptops on suspend using the 2.6.22 kernels?
[04:10] <jeff_> lol a  Mobile 945GM/GMS/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller
[04:10] <terlmann> good card
[04:10] <Kou_Xchat> jeff_, sam one I have lol
[04:10] <mluser-work> If I revert back to the 2.6.20 kernels, suspend starts working again
[04:10] <jeff_> nice
[04:10] <ikonia> mluser-work which suspend binaries are you using ?
[04:10] <terlmann> exellent drivers
[04:10] <Kou_Xchat> the chip works ok for me
[04:10] <mluser-work> ikonia: I'm running gutsy
[04:10] <ikonia> Kou_Xchat I thought you had ati ?
[04:10] <jeff_> well I know that running on the gutsy kernel can occasionally cause the keyboard to completely lock up when running multiple X servers
[04:10] <Kou_Xchat> ikonia,: Just because I ASK about ATI dosn't mean I have it
[04:11] <ikonia> mluser-home sorry , I mean which binaiys to drop the laptop into suspend
[04:11] <terlmann> HA
[04:11] <jeff_> but idk if it would happen with the feisty kernel
[04:11] <aka_youtube> does nautilus have a log I can consult?
[04:11] <jeff_> I'll have to dl the old one again and report bacl
[04:11] <jeff_> back'
[04:11] <ikonia> Kou_Xchat, I thought you did have it ati cards.
[04:11] <terlmann> ATi rules if its older than a 9500 , but , the fps is low
[04:12] <mluser-work> ikonia: this is mluser-work, but I'm using the applet in kde to do the suspend, which by the way works fine when I boot into the 2.6.20 kernel
[04:12] <Kou_Xchat> ikonia, no I was thinking of getting a medion Desktop with an ATI Radeon Xpress 1250
[04:12] <Kou_Xchat> X1250*
[04:12] <mikedep333> aka_youtube: yeah, open in terminal does not work for me
[04:12] <ikonia> mluser-work no idea, there are two binaries that can put a machine into suspend, so I guess you need to know which one the kde applet calls
[04:13] <mluser-work> ikonia: The same problem happens when I use the applet in gnome to suspend
[04:13] <terlmann> bsddb.db.DBInvalidArgError: (22, 'Invalid argument -- /var/lib/apt/listchanges.db: unsupported hash version: 9')
[04:13] <terlmann> AAAH
[04:13] <Kou_Xchat> does anyone else have an issue with konversation? I happened before the update, so that can't be it
[04:14] <terlmann> still working
[04:14] <ikonia> mluser-work same applies I guess, which one does it call
[04:14] <yaser> hey has any one here got to run matlab, everything install perfectly but when i try to start it up it closes with the following message,MATLAB: xcb_xlib.c:50: xcb_xlib_unlock: Assertion `c->xlib.lock' failed.
[04:14] <Kou_Xchat> lol
[04:14] <mikedep333> I want to test something out
[04:14] <terlmann> mike
[04:14] <aka_youtube> mikedep333: did open with stop working after install of open-terminal?
[04:14] <terlmann> here
[04:14] <mikedep333> can anyone link me to a page with an mp3 in the background
[04:14] <terlmann> you can help me test
[04:14] <mluser-work> ikonia: can you give me the name of the binary to call from the command line so I can see if it works with it?
[04:14] <terlmann> my entire apt list
[04:15] <mikedep333> terlmann: I updated my system now
[04:15] <mikedep333> thx
[04:15] <ikonia> mluser-work not of the top of my head, there is suspend2 and another, they are fighting over which one should link into the kernel
[04:15] <mikedep333> aka_youtube: I can still do "open with"
[04:15] <aka_youtube> hmmm
[04:15] <aka_youtube> thanks !
[04:16] <mikedep333> np
[04:16] <yaser> how can i post this gutsy error, because it worked perfectly in Feisty...
[04:16] <ikonia> yaser gustys a moving target at the moment, best not to try 3rd party support yet until its a bit more stable
[04:17] <Kou_Xchat> ikonia, funnythat the 3rd pary stuff is working better though
[04:17] <mikedep333_alt_c> terlmann: repeat that to me on this account
[04:17] <yaser> ikonia, if you think so
[04:17] <mikedep333_alt_c> and what is in your repo exactly?
[04:17] <terlmann> ok
[04:17] <terlmann> everything !
[04:17] <ikonia> Kou_Xchat how can it be working better, he's just said it doesn't even start up ?
[04:17] <mikedep333_alt_c> everything?
[04:17] <mikedep333_alt_c> are you mirroring the ubuntu repo?
[04:18] <terlmann> nope
[04:18] <terlmann> just wait
[04:18] <terlmann> here
[04:18] <terlmann> take a look at this
[04:18] <terlmann> lots of crazy software there
[04:19] <mikedep333_alt_c> ok, fine
[04:19] <terlmann> and all packaged for debian
[04:19] <terlmann> so most works
[04:19] <terlmann> like second life ;-)
[04:19] <terlmann> and googleearth
[04:19] <mikedep333_alt_c> only because I don't care about my alpha ubuntu box
[04:19] <Do``> hmm
[04:19] <terlmann> I looked around on the web
[04:19] <terlmann> ok
[04:19] <Do``> i just did an upgrade and a restart
[04:20] <Do``> and now i cant start anything
[04:20] <Do``> Unable to open binary database <- the same error message for any command
[04:20] <Do``> what could have gone wrong?
[04:23] <Kou_Xchat> type "commands"
[04:23] <Do``> same error
[04:24] <Do``> http://pastebin.com/mf2a8113
[04:24] <Do``> pastebin'd
[04:26] <mikedep333> terlmann: deb.opera.com could not be found
[04:26] <mikedep333> or rather it's packages.gz
[04:26] <mikedep333> and link my other comp to the gpg key
[04:28] <mikedep333_alt_c> can anyone link me to a web page with an mp3 in the background?
[04:28] <mikedep333_alt_c> I wanna test something out
[04:28] <mikedep333_alt_c> google did not help
[04:31] <aka_youtube> anyone know if nautilus has a log file somewhere?
[04:45] <Do``> so what can i do to be able to start ... anything?
[04:45] <Do``> some of the menu items work, some of them dont
[04:45] <Do``> and i cant do anything like this
[04:48] <Pici> try running the programs from the terminal and look for errors
[04:48] <Do``> this is the error
[04:48] <Do``> and i cant run basically anything
[04:50] <Pici> like what?
[04:50] <Pici> ls?
[04:50] <Pici> Anything thats only terminal based? I dont have a gui here to test with.
[04:50] <Do``> that works, but i cant start ... googleearth or gimp or wine applications o
[04:53] <Do``> google earth works only if i start it from the binary location
[04:53] <Do``> same goes for wine stuff
[04:53] <Do``> and gimp just sucks :D
[05:29] <MrKeuner> hi, is there a live version of near current version of gutsy?
[05:30] <MrKeuner> does this mean No? or does it mean nobody is here, yet?
[05:30] <Pici> MrKeuner: you can look on cdimage.ubuntu.com to see if there is anything.  The images were oversized the last time I looked though.
[05:30] <MrKeuner> Pici: I thought they weren't live cd
[05:31] <MrKeuner> Ah OK No they were. thanks Pici
[05:32] <Pici> The ones from today are oversized though, you won't be able to burn the,
[05:32] <Pici> them
[05:32] <MrKeuner> downloading this one: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20070910.1/
[05:33] <Pici> Good luck :)
[05:34] <Hobbsee> i dobut the install will work
[05:34] <Hobbsee> better to upgrade off tribe 5
[05:35] <Pici> Thats not very optimistic.
[05:35] <MrKeuner> Des that mean, I get a tribe 5 version and then do a dist-upgrade
[05:35] <Pici> But you would know ;)
[05:35] <MrKeuner> I won't install it actually, just wanna have a look at the look and feel
[05:35] <MrKeuner> i am happy with my 7.04
[05:36] <MrKeuner> except some freezes :(
[05:36] <Hobbsee> Pici: nah, just means that i have a fair idea of what state the archive is in, when we're not near a release
[05:36] <Hobbsee> Pici: i doubt the livefses are currently building
[05:37] <Hobbsee> ooh, they are for i386
[05:37] <Hobbsee> ppc is still broken
[05:40] <Hobbsee> Pici: you know what?  i think they might actually work
[05:40] <Hobbsee> assuming the installer isnt broken currently
[05:40] <Pici> One can only hope.
[05:40] <Hobbsee> the livefses are building on most arches, there's no particular errors (or i cant find where to find them)
[05:41] <Pici> Hm.
[05:42] <Hobbsee> heh. modulo sparc, and ppa
[05:42] <Hobbsee> http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/gutsy_probs.html
[05:42] <Hobbsee> not bad at all
[05:46] <Toma-> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-11-rt (amd64 i386)
[05:46] <Toma-> :(
[05:47] <Hobbsee> darned pam upgrade.
[05:53] <aka_youtube> my nautilus right-click menu shows up, but does not follow-through when I click on an item.. Im running gutsy on a p4 64bit.. Anyone has a suggestion?
[05:57] <ImTwisted> hello, is the mp3 encoding in ffmpeg working on gutsy?
[05:57] <Skyfalcon866> can i use gusty now?
[06:00] <aka_youtube> anyone knows how to fix the nautllus context-menu prblem?
[06:02] <aka_youtube> .. or how to diagnose it?
[06:14] <mora> got alsa 1.0.14 in the upgrade now, which broke sound for me... it there a way to go back to alsa 1.0.13?
[06:34] <MisterN> is gutsy well on schedule? :)
[06:57] <osmosis> ubuntu-xen-desktop (0.0.1-2ubuntu4) [universe]     Xen software for running on desktops
[06:57] <osmosis> ubuntu-xen-desktop-amd64 (0.0.1-2ubuntu4) [universe]     Xen software for running on desktops
[06:57] <osmosis> ubuntu-xen-server (0.0.1-2ubuntu4) [universe]     Xen software for running on servers
[06:57] <osmosis> can't we give these better descriptions ?
[06:58] <Tomcat_> MisterN: Looks good I think...
[06:58] <PriceChild> osmosis, file bugs with new descriptions if you really want?
[06:59] <MisterN> i'm currently facing race conditions with feisty (every second time, it does not boot), so i think i'll upgrade to gutsy when the beta is out - feasible?
[07:00] <osmosis> what is the default kernel in gutsy ?
[07:01] <PriceChild> MisterN, please don't upgrade to gutsy until its release.
[07:01] <PriceChild> !info linux-image-generic
[07:01] <PriceChild> !test
[07:01] <Ubotu> linux-image-generic: Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.22.11.12 (gutsy), package size 24 kB, installed size 52 kB
[07:01] <Ubotu> Failed.
[07:01] <PriceChild> osmosis, ^
[07:01] <MisterN> PriceChild: i always thought that beta means "almost stable, no serious problems"?
[07:02] <PriceChild> MisterN, "we hope"... again, please don't use gutsy until its release
[07:02] <osmosis> MisterN: no known serious problems, potential serious problems. untested.
[07:02] <PriceChild> MisterN, for all you know... the beta could be released with some random new bug that wipes partition tables
[07:03] <osmosis> reisercough
[07:06] <Ubulindy> Hi, this morn I got 57 updates, of which some aborted. I got error 404's. Looked in software properties, and I have: http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/commercial/binary-i386/Packages-gz:404     &  ........../commercial/source/Sources.gz:404
[07:06] <Ubulindy> which ones' should I have instead?
[07:07] <Pici> I didnt think that the gutsy commercial archives were up
[07:07] <Ubulindy> ok, so what should I put in the software properties?
[07:08] <Ubulindy> obviously, I need to "add"
[07:09] <Ubulindy> Ive been receiving updates fine, up until today
[07:10] <Pici> Thats the only repository that you have?
[07:11] <Ubulindy> yes, that one and the 2cd one, that I didnt write out all the way
[07:12] <Ubulindy> http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/commercial/source/Sources.gz
[07:12] <Ubulindy> and 2 auth signing keys
[07:13] <Ubulindy> ubuntu archive automatic signing key & ubuntu cd image automatic signing key
[07:14] <Pici> Are all the other repositories working?  Did you just upgrade?
[07:14] <Ubulindy> I got a partial upgrade 2 days ago
[07:14] <Ubulindy> only a partial
[07:14] <Ubulindy> and they are the only 2 repositories that I have
[07:15] <Pici> Ubulindy: Thats not correct.
[07:15] <Ubulindy> ?
[07:15] <Ubulindy> the only 2 under software properties
[07:16] <Larry1981> Why no Tribe 6 release ?
[07:17] <joumetal> Larry1981 see topic
[07:17] <Ubulindy> all in all, Im finding this to be pretty damn stable, not 1 crash! woo hoo!
[07:17] <Pici> !tribe6 | Larry1981
[07:17] <Ubotu> Larry1981: Gutsy Gibbon (7.10) Tribe 6 is not a formal release, but rather a bugfixing milestone.  Please see http://tinyurl.com/3ytk9g for more information.
[07:17] <Pici> Ubulindy: This is my sources.list http://pastebin.ca/694181
[07:17] <Larry1981> oops sorry did not read up to the end hehe
[07:17] <Ubulindy> Pici, looking now
[07:18] <Ubulindy> Pici, that should do it! Thanks so much!!! :-)
[07:19] <Ubulindy> have a great day, all! bye
[08:10] <mrtimdog> Hi, anyone else having problems with amarok and mp3 files in gutsy?
[08:11] <roe> noe
[08:11] <roe>   ^p
[08:12] <mrtimdog> roe: ok, thanks. Well, now what have I gone and done.....??
[08:22] <osmosis> how can I revert my config files back to original for a particular package?
[08:22] <mrtimdog> dpkg-reconfigure -phigh <package-name>
[08:24] <jsomers> that doesn't seem to do anything with me, unless it does not reconfigure gconf properties :x
[08:25] <mrtimdog> Not sure how to revert gconf settings.
[08:36] <mora> anyone know how i can go back to a previous version of a package? i need to go back to alsa 1.0.13, from 1.0.14 which was in the update that i ran today.
[08:37] <mora> it's not included in "available versions" in synaptic
[09:03] <bsm> hello, im searching the ipw3945 module in gutsy but i cant find it
[09:05] <bsm> kernel is 2.6.22-11
[09:09] <albert23> bsm: should be here: /lib/modules/2.6.22-11-generic/ubuntu/wireless/ipw3945/ipw3945.ko
[09:11] <benanz1> Gutsy provides it's own module for iSight cameras "isight_usb" -- but the GStreamer functionality is broken.  I added it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist so I could use the SVN version of "uvcvideo" -- but now there isn't a camera detected.  What to do?
[09:12] <__tim> it should be fixed in v4l2src in gst-plugins-good CVS, FWIW
[09:12] <bsm> i dont have the /ubuntu folder... is it in another package but linux-image albert23?
[09:13] <albert23> it's in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-11-generic
[09:14] <albert23> that should be installed via linux-generic
[09:15] <bsm> it wasnt. i did not do a full upgrade to gutsy, i just want a newer kernel
[09:16] <albert23> sorry, in that case I don't know which package you can install safely
[09:24] <fuoco> wow what's up with the daily live cd's size?
[09:57] <Jacob> Props to whoever did the new Launchpad icons in the help menu. They look really nice now. :D
[09:58] <finalbeta> !paste
[09:58] <Ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:22] <tehrandom> is there any known issues with updating the kernel and having the kernel source package get broken?
[10:23] <tehrandom> i did a "tag all upgradables" and let it upgrade, then i had to recompile my vmware against the kernel, and it complained about no /usr/src/linux/includes
[10:24] <tehrandom> sure enough, there's a linux-source-2.6.20.tar.bz2 file, but it wont extract, and there's no linux folder
[10:24] <bsm> big thanks albert23, you led me the way :)
[10:42] <gib> I went to install openssl-server and can't find the package for gutsy?  What is it called now?
[10:43] <asisak> I guess you wanted to install openssh-server.
[10:43] <asisak> !info openssh-server gutsy
[10:43] <Ubotu> openssh-server: secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.6p1-5 (gutsy), package size 241 kB, installed size 640 kB
[10:45] <gib> Oh, duh, Why have I been trying openssl, when I meant openssh, :)) stupid of me.
[11:35] <fixed> hey, can i get some help with gutsy around here?
[11:38] <esperegu_> saluton!
[11:38] <fixed> i have a problem with gnome, is kinda the gnome menu doesn't have icons
[11:39] <fixed> and in the windows the icon of that window appears in the middle
[11:39] <esperegu_> Is it already save to upgrade to Gutsy?
[11:42] <fixed> it's the same as this guy problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=511872&highlight=gnome+menu+icons
[11:43] <fixed> any ideas?
[11:43] <Xero> esperegu, it's safe as long as you backup /home and do a FRESH INSTALL, not an upgrade.
[11:43] <esperegu_> Xero: gues I have to wait then.
[11:43] <esperegu_> I just dd-ed everything to my new laptop
[11:45] <esperegu_> hmm.. waiting a month is not cool :-(
[11:45] <DanaG> Yay, now to do netinstall over GbE.... yay!
[11:49] <rambo3> really good job on this edition . Most GUI look improved so far.
[12:07] <gnomefreak> anything break and not get fixed in the last week i should be aware of
[12:43] <ziroday> why cant school start at a earthly time at like 9.00 so i could wake up at 7
[12:45] <laptop> How do I get mine to upgrade to the beta?
[12:47] <PriceChild> laptop, there is no beta
[12:47] <DShepherd> laptop, there's no alpha either.. right PriceChild ?
[12:47] <PriceChild> DShepherd, no, gutsy is currently alpha
[12:47] <ziroday> DShepherd: tribe :)
[12:47] <DShepherd> hmm....
[12:47] <DShepherd> duh DShepherd
[12:48] <ziroday> DShepherd: i tihnk were at tribe 5
[12:48] <ziroday> or 4
[12:48] <LordFloppy_> 6 actually
[12:48] <LordFloppy_> but its not official or whatever
[12:48] <ziroday> yeah well close
[12:48] <PriceChild> tribe 6 is a milestone rather than a release
[12:48] <ziroday> exaclty
[01:07] <peter_> Hello.....Does anyone know if support for udf 2.5 will be included with Gutsy?
[01:09] <peter_> Failing that, can anyone help with a patch for feisty?
[01:11] <peter_> Helloooooo?
[01:11] <d4rkmonkey> hi
[01:12] <peter_> Does anyone know anything about this possibility?
[01:12] <d4rkmonkey> No?
[01:13] <peter_> sorry d4rkmonkey , I'm looking for udf 2.5 info....I apologize for being so cryptic
[01:14] <d4rkmonkey> peter_ I have no idea waht udf 2.5 is..