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kibaHow come amarok doesn't work?01:21
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Picikiba: ?01:26
Picikiba: It works for me fine.01:26
d4rknorriskiba works fine for me too.01:26
kibaI didn't brother to fix mine01:26
kibaamarokapp: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory01:27
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d4rknorriskiba I didn't have to fix mine... ever try re-installing?01:30
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kibad4rknorris: how do you do that?01:51
d4rknorriskiba how did you install it? Now do the reverse. and install it again!01:52
d4rknorrislike sudo aptitude remove amarok01:52
d4rknorrissudo aptitude install amarok01:52
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aka_youtubeIm having trouble with my nvidia geforce 6-something02:08
aka_youtubeIt worked on gutsy before...02:08
aka_youtubewith the 100.14 nvidia driver02:09
aka_youtubesorry 100.14.1102:09
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aka_youtubecan someone help me with that?02:10
aka_youtubethe only thing that works now is the VESA driver02:10
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mluser-homeDoes anyone here know if ubuntu Gutsy is planning to support the new ATI ftlrx 8.41 drivers which are being released tomorrow?02:37
mluser-home*fglrx02:37
SeveredCrossUm..02:38
SeveredCrossxorg-driver-fglrx hasn't been updated in bloody AGES.02:38
SeveredCrossIt's minorly annoying.02:38
SeveredCrossxorg-driver-fglrx is still using 8.37.602:38
mluser-homeI know.. but a new driver is being released tomorrow which is supposed to be significantly better than all the previous drivers02:38
SeveredCrossThat has nothing to do with the maintainer rebuilding the package.02:39
mluser-homewas just curious if it was too late to see packages for it available in Gutsy02:39
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SeveredCrossWell.02:39
SeveredCrossWe're past package freeze right now.02:39
mluser-homeI know but I read somewhere that an exception might be made for these drivers, but I cant confirm this any where on the net02:39
mluser-homehttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=821&num=102:41
mluser-homehttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54341402:42
aka_youtubeanyone knows about the nvidia drivers?02:44
^chuckmonkey^!nvidia | aka_youtube02:44
Ubotuaka_youtube: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:44
^chuckmonkey^?02:44
aka_youtubethanks02:45
mluser-homewell heck.. I guess the answer is no.. here is an interview with Mark Shuttleworth02:47
mluser-homehttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=827&num=102:48
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aka_youtube^chuckmonkey^ does that also work on gutsy?02:52
^chuckmonkey^aka_youtube not sure, never had to use it. I just say it and hope it helps anyone with nvidia02:53
^chuckmonkey^aka_youtube it should though02:53
aka_youtubeUboto does that also work on gutsy?02:54
Xeroubotu is not a human.02:55
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hydrogenyes, it does aka_youtube02:58
hydrogenor install restricted-manager-kde02:58
hydrogenwhich is much more awesome02:58
aka_youtubethanks hydrogen02:58
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PidG30nHello, anyone willing to help me sort out my nvidia problem with herd5?03:09
hydrogennope!03:11
SeveredCrossUh, herd 5? What?03:12
PidG30naparently03:12
SeveredCrossYou mean Tribe 55?03:12
SeveredCross*503:12
PidG30nYeah :-D03:12
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PidG30nI have a geforce 4, which should be supported with the nvidia-glx package. I have installed that, and modified my xconfig accordingly... but X will crash when any 3dgfx are attempted.... such as glxgears.03:14
PidG30nerror log says.....03:14
Drizzt321I'm looking to try out automatix, but I'm running 7.10 and I tried the official automatix2 package from their apt sources but it says its only for 7.0403:15
Drizzt321anyone know if there is a dev version of automatix for 7.10?03:15
szfDrizzt321, why Automatix?03:16
SeveredCrossEek!03:16
SeveredCrossDon't use Automatix, please.03:16
PidG30nack, forgot where the log is03:16
SeveredCross!automatix | Drizzt32103:16
UbotuDrizzt321: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)03:16
Drizzt321szf, I've heard a good bit about it and feel like seeing if it works03:17
szfsee what Severed Cross linked to 1st03:17
Drizzt321oh, ouch03:17
SeveredCrossYou know it's a bad idea to use it if a Debian/Ubuntu developer says its bad.03:17
szfthe shine is off that rose03:17
SeveredCrossYep.03:18
SeveredCrossThey use a lot of really nasty hacks.03:18
Drizzt321so the better place to go would be the additional apt sources that whats his name puts out for w32codecs and such?03:18
SeveredCrossLike the one to check for root is particularly nasty.03:18
Drizzt321I understand03:18
Drizzt321it was mostly curiousity03:18
Tm_T!mp3 | Drizzt32103:18
UbotuDrizzt321: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:18
SeveredCrossDrizzt321: You can use their sources.list for w32codecs and stuff, or use Medibuntu, or something like that.03:18
Drizzt321ah, ok03:19
Drizzt321I'm normally a debian/testing user03:19
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Drizzt321but felt like checking out ubuntu for a bit since I was going to reinstall my laptop anyway03:19
SeveredCrossUbuntu's good.03:19
Drizzt321yea, I've read quite a bit03:19
Drizzt321so far its not too bad03:19
Drizzt321I kinda don't like gnome, so I'm thinking of switching over to e1703:20
SeveredCrossIt's a good stepping stone into the Linux world, and you can either stick with it and use it or move onto different, more complex distros (Slackware, Gentoo, Debian, etc.)03:20
SeveredCrossEh.03:20
Drizzt321what I was using before03:20
SeveredCrosse17 on Ubuntu is iffy IIRC.03:20
Drizzt321oh03:20
szfDrizzt321, and install VLC while you're at it, never lets me down like Totem03:20
Drizzt321:(03:20
SeveredCrossVLC >> Totem.03:20
Drizzt321szf:  I'm an mplayer guy myself03:20
szfah03:20
SeveredCrossmplayer is nice, but the GUI is butt ugly.03:20
Drizzt321but vlc is still very nice03:20
SeveredCross(gmplayer)03:20
Drizzt321oh, no kidding03:20
Drizzt321which is why I usually use it from the cli03:21
Drizzt321lol03:21
Drizzt321ahh, theres the restricted stuff03:21
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PidG30nsooo03:22
SeveredCrossYes?03:22
PidG30njust ran glxgears, and X crashed03:22
Drizzt321ouch03:22
SeveredCrossOh. Still nVidia issues.03:22
PidG30nmhmm03:22
SeveredCrossAny X log or anything?03:22
SeveredCrossdmesg?03:23
PidG30nglxgears log, or xlog03:23
PidG30nI will look03:23
PidG30nWhat's dmesg?03:23
SeveredCrossIssue dmesg at a terminal.03:23
Drizzt321never had X crash from glx gears with nvidia binary drivers03:23
SeveredCrossPastebin the last 10-15 lines.03:23
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szf>> (on moving to) more complex distros thought of giving pure debian a chanve03:23
szfs/chanve/chance/03:23
SeveredCrossI've thought about doing pure Debian but I'm lazy.03:23
PidG30ndmesg gives lots of info03:23
szfbut am frightened of spending *even more time* fixing03:23
Drizzt321pure debian isn't that bad03:23
SeveredCrossPidG30n: You only need the last 20 lines or so.03:24
SeveredCrossIssue dmesg | tail -n2003:24
Drizzt321it only really takes fixing if you specifically and intentionally mess around with stuff03:24
Drizzt321like I normally do...03:24
Drizzt321lol03:24
SeveredCrossYeah, me too.03:24
SeveredCrossHackety hack hack.03:24
PidG30nshould I paste to you? lol03:24
SeveredCrossNo, no!03:24
PidG30njk03:24
SeveredCrossPastebin, for my own sanity.03:24
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szftoday was the 1st time that Gutsy actually had sound a boot03:25
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kevinOwhere do i find the emerald themes pack?03:25
PidG30nhmm03:25
SeveredCrosskevinO: You have to install from Feisty, there isn't one for Gutsy.03:25
kevinOhmm, do I add that repository?03:26
PidG30nagp device in legacy mode, falling back to 2.x03:26
PidG30nputting agp v2 device into 4xmode03:26
SeveredCrosskevinO: I wouldn't...I'd just use the online package search.03:27
SeveredCrossGoogle emerald-themes ubuntu you'll find it.03:28
kevinOok03:28
PidG30nxorg doesn't seem to give a crash log03:28
PidG30nglxgears has a crash log03:28
Drizzt321PidG30n: you try the /var/log/Xorg.0.log?03:29
Drizzt321theres usually some info in there03:29
Drizzt321even if it crashes03:29
PidG30nyeah, that log doesn't seem to say anything about crashing... the last few lines are about /dev/input/wacom ... ps2 mouse enable succeeded03:30
Drizzt321ah03:30
Drizzt321guess not03:30
SeveredCrossTry03:30
SeveredCross/var/log/Xorg.20.log03:30
SeveredCrossI have one of those, looks like it might be a more detailed log.03:30
PidG30nthere is no .2003:31
PidG30nthere is, however, Xorg.0.log.old03:31
PidG30nbut it may be from a past failed attempt at configuring the nvidia driver in xorg.conf03:31
PidG30nthe current (Xorg.0.log) indicates, Loading extension NV-GLX, NVIDIA 3D Acceleration Architecture Initialized,03:33
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PidG30nhmm...03:36
TerraMasteris it just me or are all my updates not installing?03:36
Drizzt321?03:36
kevinOwhats the best way to have emerald load? wuth the icon or the script03:36
PidG30nthe glxgears crash log... they only things possibly useful I could find were..03:36
PidG30n glxgears crashed with SIGSEGV03:36
PidG30nit tells me before submitting crash info, I should update:  lsb-base, x11-common and see if the problem persists.03:37
PidG30nsomehow I doubt updating will help.03:37
Drizzt321why not give it a try? they might have fixed something recently03:37
Drizzt321unless you _just_ updated03:38
PidG30njust those two?03:38
Drizzt321thats what it says03:38
Drizzt321or just do a general update03:38
PidG30nWell, my past experience has been that whenever I 'update' an already unstable release, it breaks.03:38
PidG30nhehe03:38
Drizzt321good point03:38
TerraMaster!chat03:38
UbotuInstant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.03:38
kevinOhow do i get emerald to load automatically?03:38
TerraMasterWhat is the chat forum for ubuntu03:39
PidG30nhave you done the general update with 7.10?03:39
Drizzt321hmm...that GAIM one needs to change, to pidgin03:39
TerraMasterwhat is emerald?03:39
Drizzt321TerraMaster: for 7.04 and previous? #ubuntu03:39
kevinOa window manager03:39
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TerraMasterwell I ment the gerneral chatter and I do have gutsy03:39
Drizzt321thats also the general chatter03:39
Drizzt321but, of course, if you have gusty in here03:39
Drizzt321hehe03:39
TerraMasterXD03:40
kevinOno they dont like it if you chat in there03:40
Drizzt321or if you want a mix of tech and completely random chat go to ##linux03:40
Drizzt321sometimes there are some really OT conversations03:40
PidG30nI suppose I will try updating these two packages03:40
TerraMasterThats why I think there is an ubuntu-chatter03:40
Drizzt321oh03:40
TerraMasterI almost whacked my horce with a mystril axe03:40
PidG30nheh03:41
TerraMasterI love how random harvest moon is03:41
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TerraMastercurse the large disto update03:42
TerraMasterfetching 50 of 10303:42
PidG30nheh03:43
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PidG30nokay, apt-get install lsb-base tells me, could not find package03:44
DanaGHeh, just wait until I get my backup back onto my system -- I'll have a week's worth of updates to do.03:44
TerraMasterouch03:44
DanaGYay, GbE!  Yay, mirrors.kernel.org!03:44
DanaGI can go in the lab, at Cal Poly.03:44
PidG30nokay, I am just going to do a massive update... has anyone broken their system from a general update in here?03:47
PidG30njust curious.03:47
PidG30n273 updates available. :-o03:47
szfummm - do you get the "partial update" msg?03:47
PidG30nI haven't tried updating yet.03:48
szfi wince at the large updates - so far passing on the "partial" until the msg goes away03:49
kevinOhow do i get emerald to start automatically, I run emerald --replace in terminal but as soon as i close terminal it shits down the window manager03:49
szf...usually when there's 20% more packages03:49
PidG30nHmm03:50
PidG30ni don't know what the partial update msg is?03:50
szf(it did say - "don't use Gutsy as your desktop" - and that's what I did)03:50
PidG30nhehe03:50
szfwanted to luv feisty03:51
szfbut she sucked03:51
PidG30nI thought it said, don't use it as a workstation03:51
PidG30nI am using it as a playstation, not a workstation :-)03:51
TerraMasterI find that strange03:51
TerraMasterUnless your working at playing I think your fine03:51
szfanyone else get the compiz-effect "greyout" on firefox (when CPU jump 98+%)?03:56
szfis it just my ffox?03:56
TerraMasterI have no idea what you are talking about03:56
TerraMasterbut if it gets greyed out that means the comps just too busy03:57
szfthen i must think you aint seen it ;-)03:57
szfyeah, but on what? flashplayer?03:57
szfjavascript?03:57
TerraMasterwho knows03:57
TerraMasterSystem log?03:58
szfit only happens in ffox - so I suspect its isolated03:58
szf(appears to happen in ffox)03:58
TerraMasterwell unfortunat03:59
szfyeah03:59
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SeveredCrossI've gotten it a bunch of times with Firefox, and it's just because Firefox freezes up a lot.03:59
szfdunno - part of the drive to abandoning feisty was ffox issues03:59
TerraMasterweird its removing a sexy python and replacing it with python sexy04:00
szfguess it just follows me now04:00
SeveredCrossTerraMaster: It's just a package rename. :)04:00
SeveredCrossTo make it make more sense.04:00
SeveredCrossCuz sexy-python is just Python bindings to libsexy IIRC.04:00
TerraMasterit just sounds wrong04:00
SeveredCrosspython-sexy makes more sense.04:00
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TerraMasterewww... bad thought04:01
TerraMastersexy bindings04:01
TerraMasterTHE YAKS ARE COMING!04:02
TerraMaster(yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak yak)04:03
TerraMasterOH NO THERE HERE!04:03
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Xero!info pornview04:10
Ubotupornview: Image and movie viewer/manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2pre1-7 (gutsy), package size 223 kB, installed size 664 kB04:10
Xerohehe04:10
TerraMasterthat sounds so wrong04:10
^chuckmonkey^o_O04:11
DanaGI get the greying with Firefox.04:13
^chuckmonkey^DanaG thats cus firefox is crashing/temporarily freezing..04:13
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Xeropornview...04:13
DanaGIt's annoying -- you have to close and reopen the browser, or reload compiz and break focus in everything, to get it back to normal.04:13
^chuckmonkey^DanaG no.. you just need to run killall firefox-bin04:13
DanaGOr I can continue browsing greyed out.04:13
^chuckmonkey^DanaG then reopen the browser04:13
^chuckmonkey^unless its a different greying out..04:14
DanaGThe thing is this:04:14
DanaGIt freezes.  It turns grey.  It stays like that for a while.  Then it unfreezes -- but doesn't un-grey.04:14
DanaGAnd that "a while" may be 10 or 30 seconds.04:14
szfits b&w teevee04:15
Xerolol04:15
^chuckmonkey^DanaG o_O I just kill it when it freezes, then re-open and tell it to load the last session04:15
DanaGI actually exit it NORMALLY.04:16
^chuckmonkey^DanaG sissy.04:16
^chuckmonkey^it works fine when I run killall04:16
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szf*cough* should ffox not crash?04:17
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d4rkmonkeyszf no. its a feature.04:22
mluser-homeI have an Asus M6800N laptop and suspend is not working with the 2.6.22-10 and 11, if I boot into the 2.6.20 kernel from feisty suspend works great04:24
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coldstealhello04:45
coldsteali am trying to find where i can get 7.1004:46
coldstealbata or alfa04:46
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TerraMastersigh my partial update is still not done04:51
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martallihow can I start desktop effects in kubuntu gutsy?  I can't find it in the appearances tabs?04:56
coldstealmartalli: where do i get gutsy?04:57
martalliI got it from distrowatch04:57
martallihttp://distrowatch.com/?newsid=0442904:58
martalliThere's also a page on the kubuntu website...04:58
coldstealok04:59
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martallihttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/gutsy/tribe-5/05:00
coldstealmartalli: i got it thanks05:00
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martalliThis release of kubuntu has a great implementation of kde05:00
martalliIf only....kde4...but it can only be ready when its ready I guess =)05:01
SeveredCrossAnyone know why/how to speed up USB in Ubuntu?05:01
SeveredCrossI feel like it shouldn't take me 10-12 hours to copy 60 GB across USB 2.005:01
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martalliAre you sure one end of the line isn't 1.1?05:02
SeveredCrossIt shouldn't be.05:02
martalliSome older boards had a mix of 2.0 and 1.1 usb ports05:02
SeveredCrossThe external hard drive specified 2.0 and my computer is a year old, no USB 1.1 that I know of.05:02
martalli(like 2003 or 2004 at the latest05:02
coldstealso if i get tribe5 will it upgrade fine05:02
coldstealit it worth it?05:03
coldstealis there packages05:03
martallicoldsteal: I just installed kubuntu and it is working fine again05:03
martallicoldsteal: However, there were about 300+ mb of updates05:03
martalliI guess if bandwidth is dear, you might just wait to see if trube 6 is almost on the way05:03
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martalliSeveredCross: Beats me05:04
SeveredCross[353195.708000]  usb 5-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 1205:04
SeveredCrossSays dmesg.05:04
martalliSeveredCross: Maybe you need a different usb cable.  Are you using the cable that came with your hard drive, or just another that fits?05:05
SeveredCrossThe one that came.05:05
martalliWell, then I'm stumped.  Sorry to waste your time05:05
martalli=)05:05
coldstealmartalli: im just saying im reinstalling 2night and im debating if i should goto gusty now or just wait05:05
SeveredCrossThat's alright, never wasted.05:05
martallicoldsteal: I would go for the gutsy05:06
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coldstealwell r there really big diff?05:07
nemikso new dist-upgrade breaks a lot of stuff? some people on forums are complaining about PAM and hal preventing even login?05:07
SeveredCrossHaven't seen anything like that from anyone.05:07
nemikOOffice-upgrade breaking things too?05:08
martallicoldsteal: I don't kow if it is very dramatic, but for the most part it has been working great.  In my case, however, the intel HDA audio isn't working properly05:08
nemikSeveredCross: how long ago since you dist-upgraded?05:08
SeveredCrossI've been at Gutsy since Tribe 2.05:08
coldstealmy audio was great then it messed up and i never was able to fix it05:08
SeveredCrossI have the HDA Intel issue that martalli mentions, but other than that nothing.05:08
martallinemik: OOo is opening fine for me05:08
coldstealwell i got it back but the mic doesnt work05:08
SeveredCrossAnd my only issue with HDA Intel is that LFE is not working.05:08
martalliI think they will get the HDA intel audio working eventually05:09
nemikTribe 3 for me, but i mean when was last time you dist-upgraded? i tried now and there's many packages to do05:09
nemikbtw thread i'm referrring to: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54852205:09
martalliDoes kubuntu gutsy come with compiz or compiz-fusion by default?05:10
martalliI had previously upgrade-manager -d'd from feisty, so compiz may have just ave been upgraded from feisty05:10
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zirodaywow, theres a load of new games in the repos05:46
bluedlike what?05:49
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berbsddoes anybody know how to turn on logging in evolution?06:49
tonyyarussoberbsd: maybe --debug=FILE ?06:55
berbsddoesn06:56
berbsdt seem to work06:56
berbsdI thought there was an environment variable to enable logging. I recall something from a looong time ago :-)06:57
berbsdfyi, I am trying to understand why ldap queries don't work while they work perfectly in thunderbird...06:57
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sparris there a #ubuntu-1?  im installing packages from dapper07:06
sparr-2  :)07:07
eck#ubuntu is for all currently supported versions of ubuntu, including dapper07:08
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sparrwhat if im mixing dapper with gutsy?07:10
eckyou're trying to install dapper packages from within gutsy?07:10
sparryes07:10
eckgood luck :-P07:10
sparryeah, thats about where i ended up  :)07:11
sparrsupport for one of my cameras broke in edgy, so i need to waaaay downgrade gphoto2 and libgphoto2-207:11
sparrbut they arent playing nice07:11
eckhave you filed a bug report?07:12
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sparri wasnt sure if it was a bug07:12
sparrget told all the time that mixing releases is unsupported07:13
eckwell it's a bug if it doesn't work post-dapper07:13
ecki don't think you can file a bug if you're mixing repositories though07:13
eckyou might be able to install the old versions by pinning the versions to whatever the old release numbers are, but that might not work if the dependencies are too complex07:14
sparrnot mixing repositories per se, i went and got the debs manually  :)07:14
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nemikdid the new libpam update break anything for anyone?07:27
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joebob777as7why does it take so long to ltsp-build-client in edubuntu gutsy?07:36
joebob777as7am I the only one out of 171 to be awake?07:37
nemikdid the new libpam update break anything for anyone?07:44
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aslanhey guys... I am running gutsy amd6408:10
joebob777as7welcome to the club aslan...08:11
aslanI am trying to run nspluginwrapper, and it is erroring out looking for a file... I have also tried to install firefox32 and it errors out looking for the same file08:11
aslanjoebob777as7: thanks :)08:11
aslanthe file is libXcomposite.so.108:11
bluedhehe, I thought they'd fixed that08:12
aslanand it's nowhere on my system... any ideas where I can get that from ?08:12
bluedBug 13814508:12
UbotuLaunchpad bug 138145 in ia32-libs "missing ia32 libXcomposite" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13814508:12
aslanI ran nspluginwrapper successfully a couple months ago, and never saw this error before08:12
aslanblued: damnit.. so there's no workaround yet ?08:12
bluedyeah, theres a really easy workaround on the bug thingie08:13
aslanblued: ok cool, I'm looking at it08:13
bluedyou basically download libXcomposite for i386, extract the two files and put them in /usr/lib3208:13
aslanblued: lol ya that is easy :)08:13
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rocketsAnybody running gutsy on an inspiron 1501?08:20
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joebob777as7rockets, you'd be better to search google for that one especially because of the time.08:22
rocketsjoebob777as7, yeah, i have, all i find is stuff about tribe 2, tribe 3, thats too ol08:25
rocketsolf*08:25
rocketsold*08:25
rocketsgrr08:25
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joebob777as7what are you wondering?08:34
joebob777as7rockets, ?08:34
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rocketsim wondering if the latest gutsy boots and runs properly on it08:38
joebob777as7rockets, it should. i've been testing since tribe 3 on several laptops and never had a problem just getting them up and running. In fact i am already telling new converts to skip feisty all together.08:40
rocketsyeah but tribe 5 didnt work08:40
rocketsfor me that is08:40
rocketsthats a horrible reccomendation joebob777as7, even if gutsy works today it could break tomorrow08:40
rocketsits not even beta08:41
joebob777as7rockets, you can download the iso of the daily build and see if it boots to the live portion. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/08:41
aslanblued: cool thanks man08:41
aslanthat got it all working :)08:41
joebob777as7well thank you rockets i have had 4/4 good reports ... sorry your dell sucks08:41
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leperkhanzI want to make a screencast, what software should I use to record?  I'm looking for the easiest possible way.08:44
XSourcegtk-recordMyDesktop08:44
leperkhanzwhat settings would be optimal for youtube upload?08:44
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leperkhanzand thanks, btw. :)\08:45
XSourcenp08:46
joebob777as7leperkhanz, alternative is http://xvidcap.sourceforge.net/08:46
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leperkhanzthnx.08:49
leperkhanzwill try gtk first.08:49
leperkhanzlike the jack option :D08:49
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musikgoatdon't know if its gutsy related, but is having very low wispering speakers common with the beta?09:41
musikgoatits been like this since the upgrade09:41
bluedcould be an early sign of schizophrenia..09:44
bluedwhat are your speakers saying to you?09:44
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musikgoatusing realtek alc861 oss mixer09:47
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blueddoes it happen always or just with certian apps or what?09:50
musikgoatall sound it seems, media player, flash, vlc09:50
bluedcheck to see if PCM and Master are all the way up in mixer.  if so, I'd try logging out and setting up a second account to see if the problem follows.  If not, it's a config file somewhere in your profile that didn't get updated with a new setting09:53
musikgoatkk09:54
bluedof course, it could also be a bug.. I'm running a VIA onboard audio thingie on my laptop here, so I'm not sure about the chipset.. no problems though here :)09:54
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leperkhanzHey, I figured out how to do a screencast and record Tvtime real time, but it's all jumpy.  The video isn't smooth at all and hangs at points.10:28
leperkhanzsuggestions?10:28
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leperkhanzI just want to make a simple youtube video.10:28
leperkhanzfrom video onto a tv capture card.10:29
leperkhanzthen I'll probably use kino or picasa.10:29
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leperkhanzOK, I installed MythTV, now how do I make it record a show?10:54
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SlimGI'm getting alot of "device not accepting address" errors in kern.log when trying to connect different usb devices, might this be a known gutsy problem?10:56
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nIRV_hi -- what does rhythmbox, gedit and gnome terminal have in common that could make these applications freeze upon resume from suspend? (freeze doesn't affect apps like firefox, synaptic, gnucalculator, etc.) (sorry, I'm lagging +/- 10 sec)11:20
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nIRV_gnome terminal freezes, but xterm doesn't ...11:29
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keramhow come my mouse stopped working11:37
kerammy track point mouse11:37
kerami even went in with x2vnc and the mouse wont work11:37
keram:/11:37
nanonymedid you upgrade between when it worked and when it didn't work?11:38
keramnope11:38
kerameven shows up on dmesg when i plug in a usb mouse11:38
nanonymedunno, maybe you've done something at some point that borked your xorg.conf11:39
keramclosed lid and xscreensaver came on?11:39
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jmgflash player?11:44
jmg!flash11:44
UbotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash11:44
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jussi01!gnash11:53
UbotuAn open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/11:53
hetaumahi can some1 link me a guide for upgradig from feisty to gutsy11:53
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jussi01!upgrade11:54
UbotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes11:54
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Hobbseehetauma: "if you have to ask, you probably shouldnt be running gutsy"11:58
HobbseeNOTE TO ANYONE UPGRADING PAM:  YOUR X SESSION WILL BE STOPPED, YOU MAY NEED TO MANUALLY RESTART IT.11:59
aslanhetauma: google is your friend12:00
aslanHobbsee: I just upgraded.. are you saying it turns off the gdm service ?12:00
aslanHobbsee: it didn't kill X in the middle of the upgrade12:00
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Hobbseeaslan: it should restart X, you get dropped back to a console12:00
aslanHobbsee: ya it didn't do that12:00
aslannot during the upgrade of PAM here12:01
Hobbseehmm.  todays' upgrade?12:01
Hobbseeit should have, i think12:01
aslanHobbsee: yep12:01
Hobbseeaslan: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/139074 and such12:01
UbotuLaunchpad bug 139074 in adept "System design flaw for GUI applications for package management" [Undecided,Confirmed] 12:01
aslanHobbsee: I ran apt-get update; apt-get upgrade from cli12:01
Hobbseeit's at least for kde then12:01
__timsame here, x session continued to work just fine12:02
aslanHobbsee: ya it updated gdm but it didn't actually restart it.12:02
__tim(gnome)12:02
aslangnome here as well.12:02
Hobbseehm.  may just be KDE12:02
nIRV_anyone has been facing application freezes with gutsy after suspend->resume ? (rhythmbox, gnome terminal, etc.)12:20
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AyabaraI'm running gutsy with two monitors. A laptop with 1400x1050, and an lcd of 1600x1200 connected via dvi to a docking station. How can I check which resolution is being sent to the screens?01:08
AyabaraI have ATI graphics and the restricted driver01:08
AyabaraThe "Screen and Graphics Preferences" doesn't really seem to do the trick for me...01:09
AyabaraShould the mentioned config tool work event though I am using ATIs restricted driver?01:12
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jussi01hehe, delayed reaction :P01:30
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jussi01Hobbsee: true... but I didnt look... :P01:32
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jussi01Hobbsee: hows things going? are you enjoying life as a core dev?01:33
jscinozhey guys, im trying to make a deb package using EPM, any ideas how you can use complex package names? (it wont let me put a "." or "-" in it)01:33
jussi01epm?01:33
Hobbseejussi01: busy - assignments :(01:34
Hobbseejussi01: and lots of stuff on the motu-uvf / release team side of things01:34
jussi01Hobbsee: sounds like lots of fun.... :P01:35
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jussi01Hobbsee: have you noticed how dead #kubuntu is?01:37
Hobbseejussi01: i hadnt been watching it01:38
jussi01Hobbsee: we had 32 mins of inactivity...01:39
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Hobbseewow01:40
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leperkhanzWhat is the best way to record video from a tvtuner card?01:44
leperkhanzquick and easy?01:44
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jussi01leperkhanz: mythtv?02:01
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slytherinanyone seeing high CPu usage when trying to open terminal from desktop, using nautilus-open-terminal extension.02:04
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pvandewyngaerdeusr/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libXcomposite.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory02:57
slytherinpvandewyngaerde: I suppose there is a bug already for that02:58
pvandewyngaerdeand a solution ?02:58
pvandewyngaerdei386 ?? i have 64 bit02:59
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slytherinpvandewyngaerde: I don't know solution. Try gnash perhaps for flash03:02
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pvandewyngaerdewe should let AMD takeover adobe, and open specs for flash and photoshop and stuff03:06
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gabdrachhi all03:25
gabdrachafter yesterday upgrade, my swiftfox and thunderbird (standalone version)03:26
gabdrachare broken03:26
gabdrachswiftfox/swiftfox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory03:26
gabdrachbut libgtk is installed :(03:26
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gabdrachanybody awake?03:33
gabdrach:P03:33
kekZpriestersure i'm awake, but i can't help you =P03:35
slytheringabdrach: I sure can find that file in my installation03:37
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gabdrachfile exist. but i get that error. btw, im in amd64 running 32bits of swiftfox03:37
kekZpriesterbtw, my xchat is quite smart, slytherin is in a03:38
kekZpriesterdark green03:38
slytherinkekZpriester: LOL03:38
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jeff_Is it likely that running the gutsy kernel causes instability when running multiple X servers?03:41
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terlmannAhh... my apt list is bigger than ever...03:51
terlmannabout 30 entries now03:51
terlmanndoes anyone want to share ?03:51
terlmannI have a ton of good entries03:51
terlmannbut somehow I feel I am missing a few03:52
terlmannsomething rare and special03:52
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ikoniaterlmann are you having a proble m?03:52
ikoniaproblem ?03:52
terlmannno ;-D03:52
jsomersI only have the default ones and medibuntu, and I got everything I need03:52
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mikedep333hey, gutsy just failed to update for me, how do I clean this up / continue updating my system?03:52
terlmannOn the contrary , my Gutsy install is working fine03:52
jsomersI don't see why so many extra repositories are needed03:52
terlmannwell I have e17, second life  , looking glass 3d... and all from apt through synaptic03:53
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jsomersmikedep333: how did it fail?03:53
jsomersjust an apt-get upgrade or from feisty -> gutsy?03:53
mikedep333HAL failed to update or something03:53
mikedep333from one revision of gutsy to another03:54
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mikedep333an apt-get upgrade, but from synaptic03:54
PiciDo you have errors you can pastebin?03:54
terlmannreally, my gutsy is as stable as feisty.... kde is always breaking and everything is as slow as the day I installed it. :-D03:54
mikedep333sorry, I just closed synaptic03:54
terlmannso I use fluxbox03:54
terlmannmike03:54
terlmanntry this03:54
kousotuany ststus report on Bug #13900003:54
UbotuLaunchpad bug 139000 in fretsonfire "Firefox doesn't find alsa, works EVERYwhere else" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13900003:54
mikedep333unless it is in a log somewhere03:54
kousotustatus*03:54
terlmannsudo aptitude dist-upgrade -f03:54
ikoniakousotu has the bug been updated ?03:54
mikedep333ok, thx03:54
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terlmannis there any tool that lets me back up my GPG keys and repo list ?03:55
ikoniacp03:55
Picicp03:55
ikoniaha ha03:55
Piciikonia: hehe :)03:55
terlmannI get tired of switching distros every so often and having to set it all up again03:56
terlmannNo , I mean it. I don't know how to backup my repo signing keys03:56
terlmannand I have ones for 30 repos03:56
terlmannwell closer to 2003:56
ikoniaterlmann you can do a dump of all keys with apt03:56
ikoniathen re-import03:57
terlmannhow ?03:57
ikoniayou'll have to man apt as I've not got an apt box to hand03:57
terlmannok03:57
ikoniawhich I appricaite is pain03:57
terlmannyour running... what ?03:57
ikoniaterlmann pardon ?03:57
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terlmannwhat distro are you using ?03:58
ikoniaooh right03:58
terlmannldconfig deferred processing now taking place  << anyone else getting this ?03:58
ikoniaat the moment I'm on a development linux build for a compbatability test with glibc-svn and binutils-svn03:58
terlmannso its a LFS system ?03:59
ikoniano03:59
terlmannso what is it ?03:59
ikoniaI'm one of the authors of LFS and Cross-LFS so I design the build process for LFS/Cross-LFS03:59
ikoniaso its a test build process03:59
terlmannso then its LFS - alpha\03:59
ikoniaif it works parts of it may get filtered down into LFS03:59
ikoniayeah, sort of03:59
ikoniabut I dont' think this is going anywhere, too many issues curently04:00
ikoniaway beyond alpha04:00
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aka_youtubeis anyone experiencing the "open with" not working problem?04:00
slytherinterlmann: I have seen thst ldconfig thing04:00
terlmannis there any real speed gain for a i686 machine when using a source based machine (like LFS) over a binary package based os ( like ubuntu) ?04:00
ikoniaterlmann no04:00
terlmannllo slytherin04:00
ikoniaterlmann I assure you not04:01
terlmannk04:01
terlmann openoffice.org-writer depends on openoffice.org-core (= 1:2.3.0~rc1-1ubuntu1); however:04:01
terlmann  Version of openoffice.org-core on system is 1:2.3.0~oog680m1-1ubuntu3.04:01
mikedep333aka_youtube: I will try that out once my system starts up (it is running fs.ck now)04:01
aka_youtubefor about a month now, my "open with" and "open in terminal" (NAUTILUS) don't work anymore04:01
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aka_youtubethx mikedep33304:02
terlmannsomething goingon04:02
Kou_Xchat[08:54]  <kousotu> any status report on Bug #13900004:02
UbotuLaunchpad bug 139000 in fretsonfire "Firefox doesn't find alsa, works EVERYwhere else" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13900004:02
Kou_Xchataparently not..04:02
Kou_Xchatthere's a BIG bug in Konversation now :(04:02
terlmannI love my konvi04:02
ikonialove it 7.10 is in alpha and people think that frets on fire is going to be addressed in under 24 hours04:02
terlmannnot me04:02
Kou_Xchatlol04:02
terlmannI dont even use half my os04:03
mikedep333well, it is after the feature freeze04:03
nanonymeikonia, well, isn't it if the users decide to fix it? :)04:03
terlmannI just like to have it ;-)04:03
Kou_Xchatterlman: I can't see any OUTPUT text04:03
terlmannwhat you mean ?04:03
Kou_XchatI cn type all day though04:03
ikoniaKou_Xchat is the bug your referecing the logging bug ?04:03
Kou_XchatI'll show you04:03
terlmannany other unusual symptoms ?04:03
ikoniananonyme say again please, I didn't quite understand what you meant04:03
Kou_Xchatikonia, no04:03
terlmannlike user list blank ?04:03
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terlmannor menu text disappearing /04:04
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Kou_Xchatlast 3 lines I see on Konversation04:04
terlmanndarn04:04
mikedep333aka_youtube: "open with" for me works04:04
mikedep333I forget how to enable "open in terminal"04:05
Kou_Xchatyer tellin me...  I HATE Xchat....04:05
slytherinterlmann: Did you do dist-upgrade?04:05
nanonymeikonia, that is, frets on fire users could become devs and try to help fixing the problem04:05
terlmannslytherine04:05
terlmannno04:05
terlmannthat was synaptic screwing up ;-)04:05
ikoniananonyme not in this situation04:05
ikoniananonyme the user is new to linux04:06
nanonymeah04:06
nanonymewhy is he using gutsy then?04:06
Kou_Xchatmy pc hhates fiesty04:06
ikoniananonyme don't open that can of worms, we've been through it 100000 times04:06
Kou_Xchatit's too new and there are more problems with it thn gutsy04:06
terlmannAHA04:06
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terlmannI didnt have all my files downloaded04:06
terlmannso they coudnt install04:07
terlmannKou :04:07
nanonymeikonia, alright. fine by me. i guess i'm out of solutions then. carry on :)04:07
terlmannif it hates fiesty04:07
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terlmannhow does it like warty ?04:07
terlmann:-P04:07
Kou_Xchat??04:07
jeff_Is it likely that running the gutsy kernel causes instability when running multiple X servers?04:07
terlmannjeff_ no idea04:08
terlmanntry it ;-)04:08
aka_youtubemikedep333: sudo aptitude nautilus-open-terminal04:08
jeff_I am lol04:08
terlmannyou can report back if it breaks ;-)04:08
ikoniajeff_ a few people have complained of problems with the newer nvidia drivers04:08
terlmannwell04:08
terlmannI complained about nvidia04:08
jeff_i'm running an intel gfx chip04:08
Kou_Xchatlol04:08
terlmannbut it wasnt then04:08
jeff_it's a laptop04:08
terlmannthem04:08
Kou_Xchatjeff_ which one?04:08
terlmannit was my card04:09
terlmannpiece of crap04:09
jeff_toshiba satellite p206-s633704:09
jeff_205'04:09
Kou_XchatI meant the intel card04:09
Kou_Xchatlol04:09
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terlmannAHH04:09
terlmanna toshiba devil lappie04:09
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mluser-workAnyone having problems putting their laptops on suspend using the 2.6.22 kernels?04:09
jeff_lol a  Mobile 945GM/GMS/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller04:10
terlmanngood card04:10
Kou_Xchatjeff_, sam one I have lol04:10
mluser-workIf I revert back to the 2.6.20 kernels, suspend starts working again04:10
jeff_nice04:10
ikoniamluser-work which suspend binaries are you using ?04:10
terlmannexellent drivers04:10
Kou_Xchatthe chip works ok for me04:10
mluser-workikonia: I'm running gutsy04:10
ikoniaKou_Xchat I thought you had ati ?04:10
jeff_well I know that running on the gutsy kernel can occasionally cause the keyboard to completely lock up when running multiple X servers04:10
Kou_Xchatikonia,: Just because I ASK about ATI dosn't mean I have it04:10
ikoniamluser-home sorry , I mean which binaiys to drop the laptop into suspend04:11
terlmannHA04:11
jeff_but idk if it would happen with the feisty kernel04:11
aka_youtubedoes nautilus have a log I can consult?04:11
jeff_I'll have to dl the old one again and report bacl04:11
jeff_back'04:11
ikoniaKou_Xchat, I thought you did have it ati cards.04:11
terlmannATi rules if its older than a 9500 , but , the fps is low04:11
mluser-workikonia: this is mluser-work, but I'm using the applet in kde to do the suspend, which by the way works fine when I boot into the 2.6.20 kernel04:12
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Kou_Xchatikonia, no I was thinking of getting a medion Desktop with an ATI Radeon Xpress 125004:12
Kou_XchatX1250*04:12
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mikedep333aka_youtube: yeah, open in terminal does not work for me04:12
ikoniamluser-work no idea, there are two binaries that can put a machine into suspend, so I guess you need to know which one the kde applet calls04:12
mluser-workikonia: The same problem happens when I use the applet in gnome to suspend04:13
terlmannbsddb.db.DBInvalidArgError: (22, 'Invalid argument -- /var/lib/apt/listchanges.db: unsupported hash version: 9')04:13
terlmannAAAH04:13
Kou_Xchatdoes anyone else have an issue with konversation? I happened before the update, so that can't be it04:13
terlmannstill working04:14
ikoniamluser-work same applies I guess, which one does it call04:14
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yaserhey has any one here got to run matlab, everything install perfectly but when i try to start it up it closes with the following message,MATLAB: xcb_xlib.c:50: xcb_xlib_unlock: Assertion `c->xlib.lock' failed.04:14
Kou_Xchatlol04:14
mikedep333I want to test something out04:14
terlmannmike04:14
aka_youtubemikedep333: did open with stop working after install of open-terminal?04:14
terlmannhere04:14
mikedep333can anyone link me to a page with an mp3 in the background04:14
terlmannyou can help me test04:14
mluser-workikonia: can you give me the name of the binary to call from the command line so I can see if it works with it?04:14
terlmannmy entire apt list04:14
mikedep333terlmann: I updated my system now04:15
mikedep333thx04:15
ikoniamluser-work not of the top of my head, there is suspend2 and another, they are fighting over which one should link into the kernel04:15
mikedep333aka_youtube: I can still do "open with"04:15
aka_youtubehmmm04:15
aka_youtubethanks !04:15
mikedep333np04:16
yaserhow can i post this gutsy error, because it worked perfectly in Feisty...04:16
ikoniayaser gustys a moving target at the moment, best not to try 3rd party support yet until its a bit more stable04:16
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Kou_Xchatikonia, funnythat the 3rd pary stuff is working better though04:17
mikedep333_alt_cterlmann: repeat that to me on this account04:17
yaserikonia, if you think so04:17
mikedep333_alt_cand what is in your repo exactly?04:17
terlmannok04:17
terlmanneverything !04:17
ikoniaKou_Xchat how can it be working better, he's just said it doesn't even start up ?04:17
mikedep333_alt_ceverything?04:17
mikedep333_alt_care you mirroring the ubuntu repo?04:17
terlmannnope04:18
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terlmannjust wait04:18
terlmannhere04:18
terlmanntake a look at this04:18
terlmannlots of crazy software there04:18
mikedep333_alt_cok, fine04:19
terlmannand all packaged for debian04:19
terlmannso most works04:19
terlmannlike second life ;-)04:19
terlmannand googleearth04:19
mikedep333_alt_conly because I don't care about my alpha ubuntu box04:19
Do``hmm04:19
terlmannI looked around on the web04:19
terlmannok04:19
Do``i just did an upgrade and a restart04:19
Do``and now i cant start anything04:20
Do``Unable to open binary database <- the same error message for any command04:20
Do``what could have gone wrong?04:20
Kou_Xchattype "commands"04:23
Do``same error04:23
Do``http://pastebin.com/mf2a811304:24
Do``pastebin'd04:24
mikedep333terlmann: deb.opera.com could not be found04:26
mikedep333or rather it's packages.gz04:26
mikedep333and link my other comp to the gpg key04:26
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mikedep333_alt_ccan anyone link me to a web page with an mp3 in the background?04:28
mikedep333_alt_cI wanna test something out04:28
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mikedep333_alt_cgoogle did not help04:28
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aka_youtubeanyone know if nautilus has a log file somewhere?04:31
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Do``so what can i do to be able to start ... anything?04:45
Do``some of the menu items work, some of them dont04:45
Do``and i cant do anything like this04:45
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Picitry running the programs from the terminal and look for errors04:48
Do``this is the error04:48
Do``and i cant run basically anything04:48
Picilike what?04:50
Picils?04:50
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PiciAnything thats only terminal based? I dont have a gui here to test with.04:50
Do``that works, but i cant start ... googleearth or gimp or wine applications o04:50
Do``google earth works only if i start it from the binary location04:53
Do``same goes for wine stuff04:53
Do``and gimp just sucks :D04:53
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MrKeunerhi, is there a live version of near current version of gutsy?05:29
MrKeunerdoes this mean No? or does it mean nobody is here, yet?05:30
PiciMrKeuner: you can look on cdimage.ubuntu.com to see if there is anything.  The images were oversized the last time I looked though.05:30
MrKeunerPici: I thought they weren't live cd05:30
MrKeunerAh OK No they were. thanks Pici05:31
PiciThe ones from today are oversized though, you won't be able to burn the,05:32
Picithem05:32
MrKeunerdownloading this one: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20070910.1/05:32
PiciGood luck :)05:33
Hobbseei dobut the install will work05:34
Hobbseebetter to upgrade off tribe 505:34
PiciThats not very optimistic.05:35
MrKeunerDes that mean, I get a tribe 5 version and then do a dist-upgrade05:35
PiciBut you would know ;)05:35
MrKeunerI won't install it actually, just wanna have a look at the look and feel05:35
MrKeuneri am happy with my 7.0405:35
MrKeunerexcept some freezes :(05:36
HobbseePici: nah, just means that i have a fair idea of what state the archive is in, when we're not near a release05:36
HobbseePici: i doubt the livefses are currently building05:36
Hobbseeooh, they are for i38605:37
Hobbseeppc is still broken05:37
HobbseePici: you know what?  i think they might actually work05:40
Hobbseeassuming the installer isnt broken currently05:40
PiciOne can only hope.05:40
Hobbseethe livefses are building on most arches, there's no particular errors (or i cant find where to find them)05:40
PiciHm.05:41
Hobbseeheh. modulo sparc, and ppa05:42
Hobbseehttp://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/gutsy_probs.html05:42
Hobbseenot bad at all05:42
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Toma-linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-11-rt (amd64 i386)05:46
Toma-:(05:46
Hobbseedarned pam upgrade.05:47
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aka_youtubemy nautilus right-click menu shows up, but does not follow-through when I click on an item.. Im running gutsy on a p4 64bit.. Anyone has a suggestion?05:53
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ImTwistedhello, is the mp3 encoding in ffmpeg working on gutsy?05:57
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Skyfalcon866can i use gusty now?05:57
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aka_youtubeanyone knows how to fix the nautllus context-menu prblem?06:00
aka_youtube.. or how to diagnose it?06:02
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moragot alsa 1.0.14 in the upgrade now, which broke sound for me... it there a way to go back to alsa 1.0.13?06:14
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MisterNis gutsy well on schedule? :)06:34
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osmosisubuntu-xen-desktop (0.0.1-2ubuntu4) [universe]     Xen software for running on desktops06:57
osmosisubuntu-xen-desktop-amd64 (0.0.1-2ubuntu4) [universe]     Xen software for running on desktops06:57
osmosisubuntu-xen-server (0.0.1-2ubuntu4) [universe]     Xen software for running on servers06:57
osmosiscan't we give these better descriptions ?06:57
Tomcat_MisterN: Looks good I think...06:58
PriceChildosmosis, file bugs with new descriptions if you really want?06:58
MisterNi'm currently facing race conditions with feisty (every second time, it does not boot), so i think i'll upgrade to gutsy when the beta is out - feasible?06:59
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osmosiswhat is the default kernel in gutsy ?07:00
PriceChildMisterN, please don't upgrade to gutsy until its release.07:01
PriceChild!info linux-image-generic07:01
PriceChild!test07:01
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Ubotulinux-image-generic: Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.22.11.12 (gutsy), package size 24 kB, installed size 52 kB07:01
UbotuFailed.07:01
PriceChildosmosis, ^07:01
MisterNPriceChild: i always thought that beta means "almost stable, no serious problems"?07:01
PriceChildMisterN, "we hope"... again, please don't use gutsy until its release07:02
osmosisMisterN: no known serious problems, potential serious problems. untested.07:02
PriceChildMisterN, for all you know... the beta could be released with some random new bug that wipes partition tables07:02
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osmosisreisercough07:03
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UbulindyHi, this morn I got 57 updates, of which some aborted. I got error 404's. Looked in software properties, and I have: http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/commercial/binary-i386/Packages-gz:404     &  ........../commercial/source/Sources.gz:40407:06
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Ubulindywhich ones' should I have instead?07:06
PiciI didnt think that the gutsy commercial archives were up07:07
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Ubulindyok, so what should I put in the software properties?07:07
Ubulindyobviously, I need to "add"07:08
UbulindyIve been receiving updates fine, up until today07:09
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PiciThats the only repository that you have?07:10
Ubulindyyes, that one and the 2cd one, that I didnt write out all the way07:11
Ubulindyhttp://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/commercial/source/Sources.gz07:12
Ubulindyand 2 auth signing keys07:12
Ubulindyubuntu archive automatic signing key & ubuntu cd image automatic signing key07:13
PiciAre all the other repositories working?  Did you just upgrade?07:14
UbulindyI got a partial upgrade 2 days ago07:14
Ubulindyonly a partial07:14
Ubulindyand they are the only 2 repositories that I have07:14
PiciUbulindy: Thats not correct.07:15
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Ubulindy?07:15
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Ubulindythe only 2 under software properties07:15
Larry1981Why no Tribe 6 release ?07:16
joumetalLarry1981 see topic07:17
Ubulindyall in all, Im finding this to be pretty damn stable, not 1 crash! woo hoo!07:17
Pici!tribe6 | Larry198107:17
UbotuLarry1981: Gutsy Gibbon (7.10) Tribe 6 is not a formal release, but rather a bugfixing milestone.  Please see http://tinyurl.com/3ytk9g for more information.07:17
PiciUbulindy: This is my sources.list http://pastebin.ca/69418107:17
Larry1981oops sorry did not read up to the end hehe07:17
UbulindyPici, looking now07:17
UbulindyPici, that should do it! Thanks so much!!! :-)07:18
Ubulindyhave a great day, all! bye07:19
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mrtimdogHi, anyone else having problems with amarok and mp3 files in gutsy?08:10
roenoe08:11
roe  ^p08:11
mrtimdogroe: ok, thanks. Well, now what have I gone and done.....??08:12
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osmosishow can I revert my config files back to original for a particular package?08:22
mrtimdogdpkg-reconfigure -phigh <package-name>08:22
jsomersthat doesn't seem to do anything with me, unless it does not reconfigure gconf properties :x08:24
mrtimdogNot sure how to revert gconf settings.08:25
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moraanyone know how i can go back to a previous version of a package? i need to go back to alsa 1.0.13, from 1.0.14 which was in the update that i ran today.08:36
morait's not included in "available versions" in synaptic08:37
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bsmhello, im searching the ipw3945 module in gutsy but i cant find it09:03
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bsmkernel is 2.6.22-1109:05
albert23bsm: should be here: /lib/modules/2.6.22-11-generic/ubuntu/wireless/ipw3945/ipw3945.ko09:09
benanz1Gutsy provides it's own module for iSight cameras "isight_usb" -- but the GStreamer functionality is broken.  I added it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist so I could use the SVN version of "uvcvideo" -- but now there isn't a camera detected.  What to do?09:11
__timit should be fixed in v4l2src in gst-plugins-good CVS, FWIW09:12
bsmi dont have the /ubuntu folder... is it in another package but linux-image albert23?09:12
albert23it's in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-11-generic09:13
albert23that should be installed via linux-generic09:14
bsmit wasnt. i did not do a full upgrade to gutsy, i just want a newer kernel09:15
albert23sorry, in that case I don't know which package you can install safely09:16
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fuocowow what's up with the daily live cd's size?09:24
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JacobProps to whoever did the new Launchpad icons in the help menu. They look really nice now. :D09:57
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finalbeta!paste09:58
Ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)09:58
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tehrandomis there any known issues with updating the kernel and having the kernel source package get broken?10:22
tehrandomi did a "tag all upgradables" and let it upgrade, then i had to recompile my vmware against the kernel, and it complained about no /usr/src/linux/includes10:23
tehrandomsure enough, there's a linux-source-2.6.20.tar.bz2 file, but it wont extract, and there's no linux folder10:24
bsmbig thanks albert23, you led me the way :)10:24
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gibI went to install openssl-server and can't find the package for gutsy?  What is it called now?10:42
asisakI guess you wanted to install openssh-server.10:43
asisak!info openssh-server gutsy10:43
Ubotuopenssh-server: secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.6p1-5 (gutsy), package size 241 kB, installed size 640 kB10:43
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gibOh, duh, Why have I been trying openssl, when I meant openssh, :)) stupid of me.10:45
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fixedhey, can i get some help with gutsy around here?11:35
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esperegu_saluton!11:38
fixedi have a problem with gnome, is kinda the gnome menu doesn't have icons11:38
fixedand in the windows the icon of that window appears in the middle11:39
esperegu_Is it already save to upgrade to Gutsy?11:39
fixedit's the same as this guy problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=511872&highlight=gnome+menu+icons11:42
fixedany ideas?11:43
Xeroesperegu, it's safe as long as you backup /home and do a FRESH INSTALL, not an upgrade.11:43
esperegu_Xero: gues I have to wait then.11:43
esperegu_I just dd-ed everything to my new laptop11:43
esperegu_hmm.. waiting a month is not cool :-(11:45
DanaGYay, now to do netinstall over GbE.... yay!11:45
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rambo3really good job on this edition . Most GUI look improved so far.11:49
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gnomefreakanything break and not get fixed in the last week i should be aware of12:07
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zirodaywhy cant school start at a earthly time at like 9.00 so i could wake up at 712:43
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laptopHow do I get mine to upgrade to the beta?12:45
PriceChildlaptop, there is no beta12:47
DShepherdlaptop, there's no alpha either.. right PriceChild ?12:47
PriceChildDShepherd, no, gutsy is currently alpha12:47
zirodayDShepherd: tribe :)12:47
DShepherdhmm....12:47
DShepherdduh DShepherd12:47
zirodayDShepherd: i tihnk were at tribe 512:48
zirodayor 412:48
LordFloppy_6 actually12:48
LordFloppy_but its not official or whatever12:48
zirodayyeah well close12:48
PriceChildtribe 6 is a milestone rather than a release12:48
zirodayexaclty12:48
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peter_Hello.....Does anyone know if support for udf 2.5 will be included with Gutsy?01:07
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peter_Failing that, can anyone help with a patch for feisty?01:09
peter_Helloooooo?01:11
d4rkmonkeyhi01:11
peter_Does anyone know anything about this possibility?01:12
d4rkmonkeyNo?01:12
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peter_sorry d4rkmonkey , I'm looking for udf 2.5 info....I apologize for being so cryptic01:13
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d4rkmonkeypeter_ I have no idea waht udf 2.5 is..01:14
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