[01:16] <herd> I don't even have a .gtkrc of my own, I trust on XFCE on that matter so maybe the question is where does this come from?
[01:18] <herd> I used to hover above, e.g. the wavelan plugin and see the signal strength in the tooltip, this tooltip would update every 500 ms. Now I only get one tooltip after 3 seconds. Since the sources of these plugins did not change at all, I suspect GTK+ updates...
[01:19] <TheSheep> herd: probably the default values changed, you can still change them back to something that suits you better in *your* settings locally
[01:20] <herd> So I would have to edit my .gtkrc? And tell the users of my plugin to do the same?
[01:20] <TheSheep> Bug #133919
[01:20] <Ubotu> Launchpad bug 133919 in gtk+2.0 "[gutsy]  tooltips take way too long to display" [Low,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133919
[01:20] <TheSheep> herd: no, if it's you plugin, you can override the setting in your code, obviously
[01:20] <TheSheep> your
[01:21] <TheSheep> herd: all gtk settings are overridable
[01:22] <TheSheep> herd: this way the users can set it to whatever they prefer, and your app will still work as you wanted
[01:23] <herd> Sorry for bothering - I just found that this was fixed upstream and is in the pipeline <https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+2.0/+bug/133919> -- I should have had more patience ;)
[01:23] <Ubotu> Launchpad bug 133919 in gtk+2.0 "[gutsy]  tooltips take way too long to display" [Low,Fix committed] 
[01:23] <TheSheep> herd: I just pasted it 4 lines above :)
[01:24] <TheSheep> herd: still, if your application relies on this behavior, you should override the default anyways
[01:24] <Jester45> :)
[01:24] <herd> ;) It is half past one AM here and I'm almost asleep :D
[01:24] <TheSheep> same here
[01:25] <herd> good night everybody!
[01:26] <TheSheep> good night
[01:26] <TheSheep> good luck with your plugin too
[01:27] <TheSheep> Jester45: by the way, tooltips are almost completely useless with a tablet
[01:27] <TheSheep> Jester45: you can't hold your hand still enough to see them
[01:27] <Jester45> i think they are useless to begin with
[01:27] <Jester45> i move around to fast to see them
[01:28] <TheSheep> Jester45: that's the ide -- you only stop to see them when you need them
[01:28] <TheSheep> idea
[01:28] <Jester45> and never leave the mouse alone more than a few seconds unless im typing like right now or not on the computer
[01:29] <TheSheep> Jester45: you mean you don't keep your hands on the keyboard by default?
[01:30] <Jester45> one hand
[01:30] <Jester45> one on mouse one on keyboard
[01:30] <Jester45> normaly around the apt-get or the sudo password area
[01:31] <Jester45> i can type my password in under 1/2 a second
[01:32] <Jester45> 6 characters none repeated
[01:32] <TheSheep> Jester45: you will like this: http://blag.xkcd.com/2007/08/14/mirrorboard-a-one-handed-keyboard-layout-for-the-lazy/
[01:33] <TheSheep> Seveas: hi, please accept my late congratulations
[01:36] <Jester45> lol
[01:36] <Jester45> TheSheep, all ready kinda got that
[01:37] <TheSheep> ok, I have to simulate some sleep now so that everyone thinks I'm human
[01:38] <Jester45> i got this really old keybaord that has the numberpad and a third option under uio (789) jkl(456) m,.(123) i mapped them to qwe asd zxc and use the right side
[01:39] <Jester45> you know how many things you are
[01:39] <TheSheep> a federation of several billions cells
[01:39] <Jester45> you said that your a cockroach that got smashed in a port and was assimilated into the cpu
[01:40] <Jester45> i said a group of scientist all the top of their fields
[01:40] <Jester45> also there was google.com v2
[01:41] <TheSheep> damn, and I even made a home page with photos and a blog to make my story more likely :/
[01:41] <Jester45> and that google only spiders your brain and not the real Internet (as its impossible to use the bandwidth they use to stay uptodate and to store it all)
[01:42] <Jester45> what else
[01:43] <TheSheep> Jester45: could it be that I am you, and you are just a temporary replacement?
[01:43] <Jester45> aa the matrix im sure that was thrown in
[01:44] <Jester45> thats possible
[01:44] <Jester45> im the one that sleeps for you
[01:44] <TheSheep> no, no, you are fake, I am the real you
[01:44] <TheSheep> and you are just a simulation to sit on irc while I am busy
[01:56] <zoredache> did I get redirected to xubuntu-offtopic?  :p
[01:59] <TheSheep> zoredache: sorry
[02:18] <cheeseboy> hi can someone link on how to setup cgi in apache please?
[03:06] <Artimus> So, Xubuntu isn't working so well on my laptop.  It boots into a solid white screen and my framebuffer is set at something less than 300x200.  It's going to be a long night.
[03:39] <Jester45> hi max
[03:48] <wildfire> my heads going to pop.
[07:28] <vontux> hello, how would I use xarchiver to create a password-protected zip file?
[07:31] <vontux> hello, how would I use xarchiver to create a password-protected zip file?
[07:35] <mikubuntu> is there any fix to music files 'skipping' when i try to multitask on my dell lat 600?
[07:35] <vontux> why doesn't xarchiver have a password add option in ubuntu?
[07:37] <vontux> why doesn't xarchiver have a password add option in ubuntu?
[07:37] <Pumpernickel> vontux: zip -e archive.zip /filepath/of/whatever/you/wanted/archived
[07:38] <Pumpernickel> And please don't repeat yourself - this isn't like a voice conversation.  We can still see the last line you posted.
[07:38] <vontux> Pupernickel: the help page for xarchiver shows a password option in the gui, why does that not seem to be present in the xubuntu version, and sorry about the line repeats
[07:39] <Pumpernickel> mikubuntu: Increase the buffer size - that should solve it.
[07:40] <mikubuntu> Pumpernickel: thats ez for  u 2 say :)  how?
[07:41] <Pumpernickel> vontux: You're following http://xarchiver.xfce.org/dev.html?
[07:41] <Pumpernickel> mikubuntu: Depends on your media player.
[07:42] <vontux> Pupernickel: the help page on my hd that comes with the program
[07:42] <vontux> that is what I'm using that is
[07:42] <mikubuntu> Pumpernickel: ok, so it's not a 'global' setting?  i need to find out what player i'm listening on and query there, huh?
[07:43] <mikubuntu> Pumpernickel: ok, i go investigate...
[07:44] <mikubuntu> Pumpernickel:  ps, does that apply to music that i'm listening to that's embedded on a webpage?
[07:44] <Pumpernickel> Yeah, it still applies.
[07:45] <mikubuntu> Pumpernickel: ok, thanks
[07:46] <nonlocal> mikubuntu:  if you tell us what player you are using somebody here may be able to help
[07:47] <nonlocal> or you can just dig through the options+preferences yourself, it'll be in there somewhere.
[07:47] <mikubuntu> Pumpernickel: i'm not sure really; like i said it's some default on ubuntu i guess, and i don't know where to find it
[07:49] <mikubuntu> nonlocal: can't find it so far ...
[07:53] <mikubuntu> Pumpernickel: since i'm talking about music i listen to through firefox, would it be some firefox setting?  like cache size?
[07:55] <Pumpernickel> Nah, firefox just launches a media player plugin to handle it.
[07:56] <mikubuntu> Pumpernickel: so would i maybe find that in about:pluggins?
[07:57] <vontux> Pumpernickel: did you install a version of xarchiver other than the one that comes on ubuntu?
[08:01] <Pumpernickel> vontux: I'm not on Xubuntu right now, so yes.  That's why I offered the official documentation page on the subject.
[08:02] <vontux> Pumpernickel: why in the world would the ubuntu version lack such a useful feature in xarchiver's gui?
[08:05] <tarnto1> anyone here know why sound would be lost whilst logging in...same thing would happen even after a reboot...?
[08:32] <Pumpernickel> vontux: It's there.  You must've missed it.
[08:33] <Pumpernickel> I just checked on a Feisty VM.
[08:33] <vontux> Pumpernickel: yeah I had the wrong format....
[08:33] <vontux> :)
[08:44] <DarkSideUser> Hello!
[09:13] <kayuuwi> i have Pentium III 800 MHz 128 MB SDRAM, can i run xubuntu on it?
[09:16] <Merchelo> should be able to
[09:18] <kayuuwi> live cd?
[09:22] <Merchelo> yes
[09:27] <mikubuntu> when i tryed a sudo apt-get update i got this error msg: W: GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org feisty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783; can anyone tell me what it means?
[09:27] <kayuuwi> !find ntfs-3g
[09:27] <Ubotu> Found: libntfs-3g-dev, libntfs-3g0, ntfs-3g
[09:28] <kayuuwi> !help ntfs-3g
[09:28] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help ntfs-3g - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:30] <mikubuntu> kayuuwl: if you decide to install use the 'alternate install cd' for best results
[09:30] <kayuuwi> i read from other channel that ntfs file system can read/write into by ntfs-3g 'driver'
[09:30] <kayuuwi> can i get help on ntfs-3g?
[09:34] <Pumpernickel> !ntfs-3g
[09:34] <Ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[09:40] <Pumpernickel> mikubuntu: It means you didn't add the gpg key for the medibuntu repositories when you were configuring your system to use those, and so apt can't verify the packages' authenticity.
[09:47] <mikubuntu> Pumpernickel:  k, thanks; got it fixed
[11:37] <jarnos> How do you get size of a directory including subdirectories?
[12:00] <benpicco> hi, where can i find the speed and duplex configuration of my network card?
[12:15] <predaeus> jarnos, right-click on the directory in Thunar.
[12:15] <predaeus> ->properties
[12:17] <jarnos> predaeus, I suppose it does not work for the subdirectories, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/thunar/+bug/59235
[12:17] <Ubotu> Launchpad bug 59235 in thunar "Thunar shows folder sizes wrong" [Unknown,In progress] 
[12:19] <predaeus> jarnos, ah, didn't check it exactly
[12:19] <jarnos> predaeus, Sorry, I think your way works.
[12:20] <jarnos> predaeus, the bug is about status bar.
[12:21] <predaeus> ah ok.
[12:26] <benpicco> how to disable IPv6? I think it's causing trouble as the network here is IPv4 only
[12:27] <jarnos> predaeus, Thanks for the solution :)
[12:28] <predaeus> jarnos, *g* you are welcome
[02:06] <slaye1> Hi. Ive installed thunderbird 2.0, and chosen it as the prefered mailclient.
[02:06] <Wizard> hello
[02:06] <Wizard> any ppc user here ?
[02:07] <slaye1> But nothing happens when clicking a mail adress
[02:07] <slaye1> any idea why
[02:08] <slaye1> Also. The open office menus are wrong. They dont point directly at the open office writer
[02:08] <Wizard> i have problem with installing xubuntu/ppc
[02:09] <slaye1> anyone?
[02:10] <jarnos> slaye1, Where did you click an email link?
[02:10] <slaye1> http://dvtk.dk/?DVTK:Kontakt
[02:10] <jarnos> slaye1, using Firefox, I suppose?
[02:11] <slaye1> yes
[02:13] <slaye1> any idea why it aint working? Im blanc:-)
[02:13] <jarnos> slaye1, where did you chose thunderbird as the preferred mail client?
[02:15] <slaye1> At the xfce settings panel
[02:15] <jarnos> slaye1, ok. firefox does not read it, but there is a workaround.
[02:17] <slaye1> Show me!;-)
[02:19] <jarnos> slaye1, I had the opposite problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1488004&postcount=24. Maybe similar approach could be used for this?
[02:23] <slaye1> will try
[02:23] <jarnos> slaye1, type about:plugins in firefox address bar.
[02:24] <jarnos> slaye1, sorry: about:config
[02:25] <slaye1> im there
[02:26] <jarnos> slaye1, then try to type network-protocol-handler.app.mailto in the Filter field.
[02:26] <jarnos> slaye1, got anything?
[02:27] <jarnos> slaye1, sorry, network.protocol-handler.app.mailto
[02:27] <slaye1> Nothing
[02:27] <slaye1> ive got network.protocol-handler.expose.mailto
[02:28] <slaye1> and network.protocol-handler.external.mailto
[02:29] <jarnos> slaye1, me too, they are set false and true, respectively.
[02:30] <slaye1> yes
[02:30] <slaye1> i mean. The same here
[02:31] <jarnos> slaye1, but you should add the new preference name. Right-click on, possibly on empty area of the page and choose New > String. Put network.protocol-handler.app.mailto there and set value exo-open for it.
[02:32] <slaye1> Its working!!
[02:32] <slaye1> Thansk
[02:33] <jarnos> slaye1, you are welcome. I think that this should be pre-configured in Xubuntu.
[02:34] <slaye1> Generally there a lot of small quirks in xubuntu. The open office thing for example.
[02:35] <slaye1> But its pretty fast. Wonder how a pure debian xfce would perform
[02:35] <jarnos> slaye1, what is the problem with open office?
[02:35] <slaye1> The menu links just opens open office. Not the direct link to for example writer
[02:36] <Pirate_Hunter> hi does xubuntu have any security updates, cause so far i haven't been notified of any?
[02:36] <slaye1> Pirate_Hunter: As far as i know, u need to manually update
[02:36] <Pirate_Hunter> slaye1: hmm & how do I do that?
[02:36] <slaye1> Just pop up the terminal and type " sudo aptitude update"
[02:37] <slaye1> And then " sudo aptitude upgrade"
[02:37] <Pirate_Hunter> slaye1: kk will try
[02:38] <jarnos> Pirate_Hunter, you can automate security updates.
[02:39] <slaye1> u can also perform the two commands in one line. " sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade"
[02:39] <slaye1> jarnos: Do u have the same problem with open office?
[02:40] <Pirate_Hunter> slaye1: so i have to do this every-time i want to install security updates and how will i know which updates i want to install?
[02:40] <jarnos> Pirate_Hunter, in Synaptic Package Manager, choose Settings > Repositories > Internet Updates
[02:41] <Pirate_Hunter> jarnos: hmmm? what does that do?
[02:41] <slaye1> Pirate_Hunter: u can just use synaptic, and click the update button
[02:42] <slaye1> And generally u want all updates
[02:42] <Pirate_Hunter> slaye1: ok next time i will try that cause a lot of things are being updated and this way i can't keep track of them
[02:43] <jarnos> Pirate_Hunter, there you have oprtion to check updates automatically. You should be notified of new updates. You also have an option to "Install security updates without confirmation."  Please check the dialog window.
[02:44] <Pirate_Hunter> now lets talk about themes - i tried to get themes for xfce but i didnt know how to install them cause all i got was a folder with lots of icons etc & jarnos will do that in synaptic now
[02:44] <Pirate_Hunter> after updates are done do i ahve to restart my comp?
[02:45] <jarnos> Pirate_Hunter, not usually; only if you have updated kernel.
[02:46] <Pirate_Hunter> jarnos: ok than im trying to find the setting in synaptic for auto-update
[02:48] <Pirate_Hunter> jarnos: thats done now I want to customise xubuntu how do i do it i.e. themes
[02:49] <jarnos> Pirate_Hunter, no idea about themes.
[02:50] <Pirate_Hunter> jarnos: no problem i can live with what I have for now just wanted to do some alterations... nothing major
[02:50] <Pirate_Hunter> jarnos: before i forget as a noob to xubuntu is there anything i should know?
[02:51] <jarnos> Pirate_Hunter, sorry, I don't understand your question?
[02:52] <Pirate_Hunter> jarnos: just wondering if there was something in particular i should know about xubuntu like what not to do or what i have to do for the first time... hmmm i might not have to do anything i just wondered
[02:56] <slaye1> Hmm shouldnt the open office menu item point me to writer after i edit the entry in /usr/share/applications?
[02:56] <slaye1> Changed the "exec" to oowriter
[02:57] <slaye1> i mean the exec section
[02:58] <jarnos> Pirate_Hunter, ubuntuforums.org has been very useful to me; my nick is jis.
[02:59] <Pirate_Hunter> jarnos: will remember that thanx for the help
[03:00] <jarnos> Pirate_Hunter, you are welcome.
[03:00] <Pirate_Hunter> jarnos: well see yah for now going to go program in m$ xp
[03:13] <pleia2> LiquidValium: please don't use public away messages here
[03:15] <LiquidValium> sorry,  I'm still figuring out Konversation,  dont think I like it though
[03:16] <LiquidValium> what irc client would you guys recomend?
[03:17] <LiquidValium> simple is nice,  but simple and customizable is best
[03:17] <pleia2> I use irssi, very nice and popular, but text based so it's not for everyone
[03:18] <LiquidValium> I may give it a try
[03:18] <LiquidValium> just the thought of a text based irc client hasnt appealed to me yet
[03:18] <LiquidValium> heh
[03:19] <jarnos> jarnos, XChat is so easy that even I can use it without manuals.
[03:20] <jarnos> LiquidValium, I meant the previous line for you.
[03:20] <LiquidValium> yeah,  I'l probably give that a go first,  I used xchat before,  I even used it in windows for quite some time
[03:21] <LiquidValium> I think I had a hard time getting it to work right in another distro, there was some reason I stopped using it
[03:22] <LiquidValium> konversation seems to try too hard to be special
[03:22] <LiquidValium> heh
[03:22] <LiquidValium> kind of like myself really... just that its not the features I'm looking for a in a client
[03:22] <LiquidValium> lol
[03:47] <LiquidValium> xchat seems to be ok atm
[03:49] <jarnos_> You can use Gaim/Pidgin for irc, if you use it anyway and if you are short of RAM.
[03:50] <LiquidValium> yeah,  i use gaim,  but I wasnt too happy with the irc on it
[03:51] <Wizard> :/
[03:51] <Wizard> xubuntu/ppc : scene 1, cut 3
[03:53] <LiquidValium> I've been using mIRC for so long its hard to adapt to anything else
[03:53] <Wizard> LiquidValium: irssi ;)
[03:54] <LiquidValium> well, like I said,  xchat seems ok atm,  I'll give it a little while,  see if it starts to feel like home
[03:54] <LiquidValium> heh
[03:58] <maxamillion> Wizard: i think irssi would scare a mIRC user
[03:58] <Wizard> wtf ?!
[03:58] <maxamillion> ?
[03:59] <Wizard> sorry to say that, bu ubiquity sux :/
[03:59] <maxamillion> Wizard: what's ubiquity?
[03:59] <vinze> The Ubuntu and Xubuntu installer
[03:59] <vinze> (I though)
[04:00] <vinze> *thought)
[04:00] <LiquidValium> bitchx = irssi now right?
[04:00] <pleia2> no, they are different programs
[04:01] <Wizard> kurwa, ja pierdole.. co za jebane gowno :/
[04:01] <jarnos> I can not find a way to automatically join the channels I want in Gaim.
[04:02] <Wizard> why the hell ubuiquity tries to make 'newworld' partition as / ?
[04:03] <LiquidValium> ah,  I must have misread something then
[04:03] <LiquidValium> anybody in here got that myspaceIM thing working in gaim?
[04:04] <jarnos> LiquidValium, newer heard of such.
[04:07] <Wizard> fuuuuuck!
[04:07] <maxamillion> !language | Wizard
[04:07] <Ubotu> Wizard: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:07] <Wizard> os x screwed partitioning, but that what xubuntu is offering is insane :/
[04:08] <maxamillion> Wizard: i don't follow
[04:08] <Wizard> i'm installing xubuntu on my powrebook, because i'm tired with os x shareware apps
[04:09] <Wizard> and ubiquity is doing everything to not allow me doing this :)
[04:11] <maxamillion> i don't know what ubiquity is so i really can't help much
[04:11] <vinze> maxamillion, The Xubuntu/Ubuntu installer
[04:12] <Wizard> ubuntu installer
[04:12] <Wizard> i don't get it :/
[04:12] <Wizard> i set 'newworld' as /dfgh and ubiquity assumes it as /usr
[04:12] <maxamillion> oh ... heh ... didn't know it had a name, i actually prefer the text based because of my background in debian
[04:16] <jarnos> Wizard, I also have had problems with partitioning when using the live CD (early Dapper, and Feisty). Thus, I have used Gparted Live CD to do the partiitoning before installing xubuntu.
[04:17] <DefenceMinister> Tired installing ubuntu over fedora, using the use eniter disk option.
[04:18] <DefenceMinister> It produces an error, somthing along the lines of cant write the to disk
[04:18] <DefenceMinister> opens up a ./boot folder
[04:18] <DefenceMinister> with some files in it
[04:18] <DefenceMinister> Why would this be happing?
[04:25] <Wizard> jarnos: does gparted support macintosh partition table ?
[04:25] <maxamillion> Wizard: yes, i have used it before on a mac
[04:26] <Wizard> maxamillion: mac with g4 ?
[04:26] <maxamillion> Wizard: it was an older iBook G4
[04:26] <Wizard> ah, ok
[04:26] <maxamillion> Wizard: yeah ... 1ghz G4 iBook
[04:26] <Wizard> but linux fdisk did the trick ;)
[04:28] <Wizard> it didn't support macosx users import :P too bad
[04:28] <maxamillion> Wizard: yes, fdisk works as well ... just a little old fashioned for some users
[04:28] <Wizard> maxamillion: enough for me :)
[04:29] <Wizard> OMFG!!
[04:29] <maxamillion> ?
[04:29] <Wizard> why auto means 'ext3' ?
[04:29] <maxamillion> Wizard: because ext3 is the default file system for majority of linux distributions in use today
[04:31] <Wizard> bah.. i've never tried to install point and click distro, only xubuntu on my amd64 notebook :/
[04:31] <Wizard> works nice.. but installation is pita
[04:35] <maxamillion> xubuntu is normally a point and click distro
[04:36] <maxamillion> Wizard: if you are in the mood for a head ache or just for some moderate pain, you should install gentoo .... or if you are in the need for some education, install debian from netinstall image and only grab the base system then build up from there :)
[04:37] <Wizard> i hate gentoo
[04:37] <Pres-Gas> Hello, all.
[04:37] <Wizard> thank you very much for 3days upgrades without x :)
[04:37] <Wizard> it's my main notebook
[04:37] <Wizard> i need it 24h/day
[04:37] <vinze> Hey Pres-Gas
[04:37] <Wizard> hello Pres-Gas
[04:38] <Pres-Gas> Will the next version of xubuntu be released at the same time as ubuntu, or is there a time delay?
[04:38] <vinze> It ought to be released alongside Ubuntu
[04:38] <Wizard> aaargh.. no, i don't need swap, you stupid installer :S
[04:38] <vinze> Might differ a few hours
[04:38] <maxamillion> Wizard: i run debian stable branch on things i need 24/7 ... its stable++ :)
[04:39] <Pres-Gas> vinze, that is what I suspected.  Hard to believe that it is comming up so soon.
[04:39] <Wizard> bleah.. ubuntu has newer packages
[04:39] <vinze> Pres-Gas, why?
[04:39] <maxamillion> Pres-Gas: we had one issue in the past and xubuntu was released a few days later (i think 3), but the release schedules are meant to be the same
[04:39] <Pres-Gas> maxamillion, maybe that was in my thoughts when I asked.
[04:40] <Pres-Gas> vinze, just time flying.
[04:40] <vinze> Pres-Gas, OK, yeah, true :D
[04:40] <Pres-Gas> I feel like I just updated my father-in-law's computer.
[04:40] <vinze> I'm always surprised by the amount of progress made :D
[04:45] <Kilroo> Grr...I want the new ATI drivers...
[04:45] <Kilroo> I suppose I could boot up Windows.
[04:45] <Kilroo> I'd have to call and activate it though.
[04:46] <Pres-Gas> lol, Kilroo.  ...and who would want to do that?
[04:47] <Kilroo> Someone who needed to use a Onetouch 9800 usb scanner. Or play Albatross18.
[05:13] <MatBoy> can I move windows without using my mouse ?
[05:13] <vinze> Yes
[05:13] <vinze> Press Alt+Click
[05:13] <MatBoy> vinze, how ?
[05:13] <vinze> Oh wait
[05:13] <vinze> Sorry
[05:13] <vinze> Stupid
[05:13] <KlrSpz> ALT+SPACE, select MOVE, then use cursors
[05:13] <MatBoy> hehe, the windows is somewhere out range of my multiple screen setup
[05:13] <vinze> Or Ctrl+Shift+Alt+Arrow Keys
[05:14] <MatBoy> vinze, I love you :D
[05:14] <KlrSpz> ahh, possibly yeah in xfwm4, not in compiz :S
[05:14] <vinze> Np :P
[05:14] <vinze> Yeah in Compiz you pull the window to the next desktop
[05:14] <vinze> That's what I wanted to do when I found out this :P
[05:15] <vinze> Anyway, g2g, later
[05:40] <jarnos> Anybody know, why ubuntu has so small version of sylpheed-claws? The mail client is so much faster to launch than Thunderbird. Current versions are known as Claws mail. See http://www.sencer.de/article/2039/welcome-claws-mail-goodbye-thunderbird
[06:04] <nonlocal> um.
[06:05] <nonlocal> I'm just playing around with some network monitoring here.. I have a sshfs mounted media share folder. I am not currently watching/listening to anything. Any idea why ssh is doing such a large amount of traffic? I'm seeing like 10-40k/s all the time...
[06:11] <jarnos> I am trying to install current version of Claws Mail here: http://www.claws-mail.org/downloads.php?section=downloads
[06:12] <jarnos> Command "sudo apt-key add colin.publickey" says "gpg: can't open `colin.publickey': No such file or directory".
[06:14] <jarnos> I figured it out myself: I had to download the key file first.
[06:26] <nikolam> Hello :)
[06:29] <nikolam> I were adding some fonts thought synaptic and somehow monospace font got messed up somehow. i needed to change console font to something else and duging synaptic install and elsewhere, letters are noc so clear and small and barely readable.
[06:29] <nikolam> Here in chat letters are also stragely bright
[06:31] <nikolam> How to get back monospace font and adjust it in synaptic window etc
[06:49] <nonlocal> yeah I'm having a really weird problem on my laptop where some fonts are *tiny*. Don't know what's going on, I have to adjust them to like 24 pt. to make them readable...
[06:49] <nonlocal> actually I should try and fix that.
[08:22] <LampoNero> ciao a tutti
[08:33] <nonlocal> I have a broken windows installation. (Well, my gf does :)). Repair installations aren't working so I'm trying to get the files off before doing a format/install. I booted it up using an ubuntu live cd, and I'm trying to cp -frp the whole darn disk to an external drive. It's kinda working but very, veeeeery slowly. Ever few minutes the disk light will flash and a few more megs will jump over. Why is this copy going so slowly? Does anybody know what I s
[08:50] <emdash_> nonlocal: you might be using the FUSE driver
[08:50] <emdash_> nonlocal: which is known to have poor performance
[08:51] <emdash_> actually
[08:51] <emdash_> no, that wouldn't be on thel libeced, would it?
[08:51] <emdash_> *livecd
[08:51] <nonlocal> don't think so. It's a 6.06 cd, on top of everything else :)
[08:52] <emdash_> more than likely it's because you're using a livecd
[08:52] <emdash_> which uncompresses the cd into memory
[08:53] <emdash_> you might try killing X
[08:53] <emdash_> and doing the copy from the command line
[09:12] <cheeseboy> how i set my locale to non utf locale ?
[09:43] <thrashy> Hey, I'm installing xubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386 but after filling all the install details in and clicking install i get "the ext3 file system creation in partition #1 of ide1 master (hda) failed". This has happened before and I know theres a really easy way to fix this but I've lost to link to the bug entry on the xbuntu site. I'd really appreciate it if someone could link me :)
[09:45] <cheeseboy> anyone?
[09:45] <nikolam> hi
[09:47] <nikolam> i just came
[09:51] <LampoNero> ciao a tutti scusatemi ero a cena
[09:56] <nikolam> hi
[09:57] <cheeseboy> help please??
[09:58] <nikolam> shoot
[09:59] <cheeseboy> how i set my locale to non utf locale ?
[10:30] <atarinox> anyone recommend a newsreader for ubuntu?
[10:31] <nikolam> I use Seamonkey
[10:31] <nikolam> Easy to install
[10:32] <Artimus> atarinox: Pan
[10:32] <nikolam> You also have Thunderbird in repo
[10:32] <Artimus> atarinox: Pan doesn't have too many dependencies, I keep it around on my Xubuntu install (my poor 300mhz laptop)
[10:34] <nikolam> It is true that if you are tight on resources, should avoid sm/tb and use something lightweight, like pan or so.
[10:35] <atarinox> ok, thanks
[10:35] <Artimus> Pan is also much more efficient with binary decoding, if you're into that sort of thing
[10:41] <cheeseboy> how i set my locale to non utf locale ?
[10:43] <Artimus> cheeseboy: Try this site?  http://blog.andrewbeacock.com/2007/01/how-to-change-your-default-locale-on.html
[10:57] <thinkmassive> how can I stop xfce/xwindows without shutting down my system?
[11:02] <Jester45> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[11:02] <Jester45> it will close everything instantly
[11:02] <Jester45> or replace restart with stop to keep it off
[11:02] <thinkmassive> thakns
[11:02] <thinkmassive> I'm trying to load a remote x session... it's not possible to have that open at the same time as a local one, is it?
[11:03] <nikolam> thinkmassive or just hit Ctrl+Alt+Backspace :) to restart X
[11:03] <thinkmassive> like say: console 7 is local, console 8 (F8) is remote?
[11:05] <Jester45> you can have as many x sessions open as you want
[11:07] <thinkmassive> do you know of a good tutorial?
[11:07] <thinkmassive> I didn't realize it was that easy
[11:09] <thinkmassive> oops, I'm just lazy, found it :)
[11:09] <thinkmassive> thanks for the tip
[11:11] <cheeseboy> how do i reload locales w/o reboot?
[11:14] <nikolam> Is there any GUI/frontend for making UDF CDRW disks? k3d dont have option for cd`s
[11:30] <dslzen> Greetings!  I'm a total nubie and can't figure out how to install the alternate xubuntu onto my old laptop.  It is running windows XP.  I've searched everywhere but can't find what I need.  I burned the disk ISO...any quick help or links out there?
[11:32] <nikolam> What do you wan to do? to wipe xp and put xubuntu instead or xubuntu beside xp? how big is your hdd, is ti partitioned and how much free space do you have on it?
[11:33] <dslzen> 8 gb hd.  I want to wipe and do a clean install.
[11:34] <nikolam> can you boot from cd? go to bios and set it to boot from cd as first device
[11:35] <nikolam> Than you can use option on cd for automatic partitioning during install
[11:35] <dslzen> OK, let me change that right now.  It'll take a second.
[11:36] <jalalabad> hey guys, 2 questions
[11:36] <kiosk> hello xubuntu'ers
[11:36] <jalalabad> 1) why does xubuntu try to dhcp as ipv6 and not ipv4?
[11:37] <jalalabad> 2) why does the installer keep automounting the damn ntfs partition my windows is on (it trashes my install, thus causing the installer to write over the original ntfs partition that windows was on instead of merely resizing)
[11:37] <jalalabad> kiosk: 'ello
[11:37] <kiosk> hi
[11:37] <jalalabad> what's goin on
[11:38] <kiosk> I know kinda what your saying but don't know the answer
[11:38] <kiosk> i can't get apt-get to install things
[11:38] <jalalabad> it keeps crapping out and thus losing my windows install... luckily i just reinstalled iwndows so there's no harm done this time, but the first time i really pissed my IT admin off
[11:38] <jalalabad> what do you mean? like it won't connect?
[11:38] <kiosk> says it cant connect
[11:38] <jalalabad> or do you get md5 sum errors?
[11:38] <kiosk> yeah
[11:39] <jalalabad> hmm, have you tried apt-get update to make sure your sources are right?
[11:39] <kiosk> not Md5 don't think
[11:39] <kiosk> yes
[11:39] <jalalabad> shoot, repeat the last line, cleared the screen (before the yes)
[11:39] <jalalabad> if you said anything that is
[11:39] <kiosk> that fails too
[11:39] <kiosk> (update)
[11:39] <jalalabad> are you chatting on your live cd?
[11:39] <jalalabad> err, install?
[11:39] <kiosk> install
[11:40] <jalalabad> in the network config, make sure you have a dns
[11:40] <kiosk> how do I get to network config via gui or command?
[11:40] <nikolam> jalalabad: I think you need to downsize your ntfs before installing linux on new partition beside old
[11:40] <dslzen> OK, changed BIOS and rebooting
[11:40] <jalalabad> nikolam: i am, that's when it mounts and craps out
[11:41] <kiosk> br
[11:41] <kiosk> brb
[11:42] <dslzen> Not to sound like a defeatest but this may be to much for me.  I'm not sure I even burned the damn ISO correctly.
[11:42] <jalalabad> ???
[11:42] <jalalabad> how did you burn it
[11:42] <dslzen> Nero
[11:42] <nikolam> dslzen: good luck. Everything is easy. Fex easy questions (or maybe a little X setup questions at end) but quite easy.
[11:42] <jalalabad> burn iso to disk, or did you just copy the iso to the datacd and burn
[11:43] <dslzen> Not sure what you all mean.  Did it as an ISO file.
[11:43] <jalalabad> i mean, did you choose the option to burn an iso to disk, or did you merely say "Create Data CD" and copy the iso to it?
[11:43] <nikolam> jalalabad Don`t just foly iso file to data cd! Burn it with option "burn iso image"
[11:43] <dslzen> Option to burn and ISO
[11:43] <jalalabad> nikolam: i know, i'm trying to find out what he did
[11:44] <jalalabad> so you clicked like Recorder > Burn Image or something along that order?
[11:44] <jalalabad> if so, that should be fine
[11:44] <jalalabad> your media might be cheap however, and may not boot the first time... i had that problem, took me a few boots, adn then finally after my 3rd install i opted to just re-burn the iso at a slower speed
[11:44] <dslzen> Now, I can access the data on the disk, but can't figure out how to install.  I'm a hard core XP user and so badly want an "install" button!
[11:45] <jalalabad> there *is* an install button
[11:45] <dslzen> Really?  In the install folder?  I can't find it!
[11:45] <jalalabad> erm are you using a live cd or a minimal cd?
[11:45] <nikolam> dslzen did you boot cd?
[11:46] <dslzen> Minimal.  I don't have enough ram for the live.
[11:46] <jalalabad> if you don't have enough ram for live, you're not going to get the install to work either man, i mean it's pretty minimal
[11:46] <dslzen> I just tried to boot, went right to XP
[11:46] <nikolam> dslzen how much ram do you have? you can use alternate CD , if you have 128
[11:46] <dslzen> 128 and I have the alternate.  That is what I burned.
[11:46] <jalalabad> i'm using 201 mb of ram on the install cd now, i'm installing on this box i'm talking to you on
[11:47] <jalalabad> you could always make a swap file on the disk as a file, mount that as swap and go from there
[11:47] <nikolam> dslzen: Shut it down and try to catch moment when motherboard ask you to hit enter or so to boot from cd. (same thing as installing xp)
[11:47] <dslzen> Ah yes.  That made sense! :-)
[11:47] <nikolam> dslzen: nice. I also use alternate
[11:48] <jalalabad> how do you install on the alternate? just apt-get install xubuntu-desktop?
[11:48] <nikolam> dslzen Just see if you make it in bios to boot from cd.
[11:48] <dslzen> I did just adjust BIOS to boot from CD.  Went into XP anyway.  I'll try again.
[11:48] <jalalabad> make sure it's set up to boot to cd FIRST
[11:49] <nikolam> jalalabad alternate install is just that : full install with all goodies of xfce
[11:49] <jalalabad> also, sometimes motherboards have the option to hit a key to enter a boot menu
[11:49] <jalalabad> nikolam: right, but what commands do you use?
[11:50] <nikolam> no comand, it is automatic install. In textual mode. Next next finish :)
[11:50] <jalalabad> oh, lame
[11:50] <dslzen> f10 on my system.  Kids want to eat, so I've gotta go.  I need to read more about this because I don't even understand most of what you all are saying.  Like I said, I've never used anything other than Windows and this is like French.
[11:51] <nikolam> dslzen: It is same thing like installing windows. The same thing. You boot from Cd and install. Simple.
[11:52] <dslzen> OK, then I burned the disk wrong because it is not working correct.
[11:52] <dslzen> Or, at least as discribed above.
[11:53] <dslzen> Eggs and toast for dinner, anyone?
[11:56] <jalalabad> lovely
[11:56] <nikolam> niice, when you say, i an hubgy a bit too. :)
[11:56] <jalalabad> coming from gentoo for the last 7 years, ubuntu is a no brainer
[11:56] <thrashy> I'm trying to install vnc server (specifically x11vnc) I download the package but when I go to set the password using "vncpasswd~/.vnc/passwd" it says no such file or dir. How can I find out where it downloaded to?
[11:57] <jalalabad> create the folder
[11:57] <jalalabad> mkdir ~/.vnc
[11:57] <nikolam> You can check .iso file with md5 and if it is wrongly saved, you can repair it with torrent , no need to download again
[11:58] <nikolam> jalabad: gentoo user, wow, you should be a wizard for average ubuntuer haha
[11:58] <jalalabad> heh, yeah
[11:58] <jalalabad> ubuntu is cake; just a few nuances that are slightly irritating
[11:59] <nikolam> cream, sugar, or chocolate? xfce ,gnome or kde?
[11:59] <jalalabad> particularly the livecd installer has problems (although i'm starting to think it's xfce) and mplayer is compiled with gnome dependancies for the screensaver stuff
[11:59] <jalalabad> chocolate, xfce
[11:59] <nikolam> I always use alternate cd to install.
[12:00] <jalalabad> i might on my next install, but i'd probably choose xfce itself and let it auto test for dependancies, but not get all the goodies/etc
[12:00] <jalalabad> i don't need the whole thing, just certain parts
[12:00] <jalalabad> which is why i love gentoo
[12:00] <Pirate_Hunter> on amsn cnat u send away messages?
[12:01] <jalalabad> use gaim
[12:01] <jalalabad> my ubuntu and gentoo isntalls are used identically, but my gentoo install is 1.6gig where my ubuntu install is 5 gig... like woah
[12:01] <nikolam> I might choose gentoo if i had time to compile everything, which i dont..
[12:01] <jalalabad> yeah that can be the downside, but you have so much power over what you install and what you include
[12:01] <jalalabad> saves a lot of space and at times, headaches
[12:01] <jalalabad> on the other hand, it can create headaches
[12:02] <Pirate_Hunter> on amsn how do i send away messages?
[12:02] <jalalabad> ok i just tried a system transfer, so i'm going to try and reboot and test it... urm, right after i install grub
[12:04] <kiosk> can anyone help me with apt-get?
[12:04] <kiosk> apt-get update tells me (111 Connection Refused)
[12:06] <nikolam> kiosk: try to change server you download from. You can set it in Software sources or in the Settings>Repositories from synaptic.
[12:11] <kiosk> nikolam: Thanks I'll try that
[12:12] <kiosk> nikolam: What server should be there
[12:13] <kiosk> Is that on ubuntu.com somewhere
[12:13] <kiosk> I see two cdrom entries for the fiesty install CD
[12:13] <nikolam> you choose. Depending on you current location
[12:13] <kiosk> and one that I added once for the skype repo
[12:13] <kiosk> but there doesn't appear to be any other online repos in there?
[12:13] <nikolam> go to ubuntu software tab and click on "downlaod from"
[12:14] <kiosk> ok
[12:14] <nikolam> then Other..
[12:14] <kiosk> aha! I see
[12:14] <nikolam> and choose or let "select best server" choose for you
[12:14] <nikolam> :)
[12:14] <kiosk> cool
[12:15] <nikolam> extra cool :)
[12:15] <kiosk> thank you
[12:15] <nikolam> no problemmo
[12:18] <kiosk> are a lot of the servers down right now?
[12:19] <nikolam> i hope not. I am in europe and our local server designated for my area gets down sometimes during day. I changed it to another and faster one and it is ok.
[12:20] <nikolam> it is beauty in it. Just imagine M$ cenrtalized location dies. Noone gets updates. Here on ubuntu, you just change to tottaly indpendent another one :)
[12:22] <kiosk> yes
[12:22] <kiosk> :)
[12:23] <kiosk> what does it mean when software can't authenticate?
[12:30] <nikolam> it means that for the repository you added, you did`t add to your system`s public key trust
[12:31] <nikolam> keys are used to ensure that all packages are sined and can be euthenticated
[12:31] <nikolam> You have Authentication tab on Software sources
[12:31] <nikolam> Where you can add key file for repository you add.
[12:32] <nikolam> You choose to what repository you trust and what key you add
[12:33] <nikolam> Many binary repositories and wild ones dont have/dont use authentication line ubuntu main repository, therefore, you can trust them less
[12:40] <MatBoy> Xubuntu says after loggin in that it can;t find the internetname, but it's already 100% ok in /etc/hosts and DNS is also working OK. SSH is sometimes slow to other machines in startup.. so there is a DNS issue... never had this on Debian... what can it be ?
[01:03] <kiosk> nikolam: thanks for help with authenticatio
[01:03] <kiosk> nikolam: thanks for help with authentication
[01:03] <nikolam> ok ok :)
[01:03] <kiosk> But I think my problem is worse
[01:03] <kiosk> When I click choose best server
[01:04] <kiosk> it says no acceptable server was found out of 151
[01:08] <kiosk> am I disconnected again?
[01:13] <thrashy> I'm trying to create a desktop entry for utorrent using "sudo gedit /usr/share/applications/utorrent.desktop" but xubuntu says the gedit command cant be found. Anyone know an alternative I use?