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TECKBWgoogled around for about a week and gave up12:38
MacZtttlkworkOh, and another point, in vista DVD playback was a bit slow!! However with kubuntu it goes ok12:38
TECKBWvista sucks12:39
lparryexactly :P12:39
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TECKBWthey say faster then xp...hell i run faster than vista12:39
lparryeveryone at my school prefers xp, and thinks vista is a load of crap12:39
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gnomefreakfor Vista please see #kubuntu-offtopic please12:39
MacZtttlkworkIn my comp Vista boots... as fast as Kubuntu... the boot process is quite simillar IMHO. However opensuse 10.2... I deleted it, lol.12:39
ScorpKinglol12:39
trprfaster than XP... got to be because you MUST run a faster computer.12:39
MacZtttlkwork:P didn't know about that channel, sorry!12:40
TECKBWcheers be back ... rebooting for test12:40
ScorpKing:)12:40
brian_hi12:40
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MacZtttlkworkI don't want to be reiterative but... any "how to" about kbfx or something?12:43
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banieUptime: 50 minutes12:44
ScorpKingMacZtttlkwork: let me go look12:44
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TECKBWi am back will let u know in a second if the hard drive mounted12:48
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MacZtttlkworkI have both tried from repositories and also from kde-apps...12:48
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ScorpKingMacZtttlkwork: i can't load http://www.kbfx.org/ . maybe there is something12:49
ScorpKingMacZtttlkwork: do you just want to install it?12:49
MacZtttlkworki couldn't also12:49
MacZtttlkworki have installed it12:49
MacZtttlkworkboth from the repositories and from kde-apps (a deb package)12:50
MacZtttlkworkbut they didn't worked...12:50
ScorpKingit's not in the help centre?12:50
MacZtttlkworkI open the help centre12:50
MacZtttlkworkand do the appropiate things but nothing happens12:50
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TECKBWScorpKing---> Still did not mount....12:51
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ScorpKinguhm... look in /var/log/messages for mount errors12:52
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TECKBWk checking now12:52
ScorpKingTECKBW: sudo grep hda /var/log/messages | less12:53
ScorpKinguse hdb :)12:53
ScorpKingor what ever your hd is12:53
TECKBWlogs for hda1-5 ext3 but none for hdb1 vfat12:56
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ScorpKingMacZtttlkwork: KDE Help Centre -> Application Manuals -> Internet -> Krfb12:56
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ScorpKingTECKBW: just run sudo mount /dev/hdb1 and see if that gives any errors12:57
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nosrednaekimwow... performance if better with the new ATI driver!12:57
nosrednaekimfar better!12:57
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TECKBWno final new line at end of fstab...think i will have to edit fstab and enter a blank line at the end12:58
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MacZtttlkworkok I am looking...12:58
ScorpKingtry that12:58
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felipe__hi12:59
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felipe__someone know how activate usb mass storage in kubuntu feisty?12:59
nosrednaekimhello12:59
nosrednaekimfelipe__: works automatically.01:00
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MacZtttlkworkit is not listed there :-S01:00
ScorpKingmine is. :)01:00
MacZtttlkwork:-(01:00
MacZtttlkworkperhaps i have to restart kde?01:00
felipe__nosrednaekim: but if i connect my pendrive or ipod it doesn't recongnizes it01:01
ScorpKinglol. i don't see any other docs. run locate krfb | less . maybe the docs will show up01:01
TECKBWsays wrong fs type...or bad superblock...missing codepage01:01
nosrednaekimfelipe__: did you try all of your USB prts?01:01
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felipe__nosrednaekim: but if i connect the pendrive before turning on the computer it mounts the pendrive01:02
felipe__and at windows it works perfectly01:02
ScorpKingTECKBW: put the options that you use to mount it manually in fstab01:02
nosrednaekimfelipe__: hmm thats odd....01:02
nosrednaekimwhen you plug it in.... run "dmesg"and see what it says in the last 10 lines or so..01:03
felipe__ok01:03
TECKBWcan u send gid and uid info again...01:03
TECKBWcan't remember the command...01:03
ScorpKinggid=1000,uid=100001:03
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felipe__nosrednaekim: ok...01:04
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felipe__nosrednaekim: it says..01:04
felipe__[ 4075.050899]  usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 201:04
felipe__[ 4075.255861]  usb 1-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice01:05
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nosrednaekim!paste01:05
Ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)01:05
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felipe__nosrednaekim: but it doesn't appears at the desktop or mounted in the media folder01:06
nosrednaekimfelipe__: is that ALL it says?01:06
thomas1what do you guys think is the best music player software for linux?01:06
nosrednaekimamarok01:06
thomas1it sucks01:06
felipe__nosrednaekim: is the difference between before and after i connect the pendrive01:06
terrestrei really like amarok01:07
nosrednaekim0.o01:07
felipe__if amarok sucks use xmms xD, its like winamp but the newest version is from 199901:07
terrestreamarok found lyrics for me jaja01:07
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nosrednaekimfelipe__: plug it in.. wait about 10 seconds, run it and pastebin the last 20 lines.01:07
nosrednaekimrun dmesg that is01:07
mefisto__nothing is better than amarok01:07
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felipe__ok01:08
felipe__http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37277/01:09
felipe__theere is01:09
nosrednaekimAKK! sory, I have to go!01:09
felipe__ok no problem01:09
felipe__:d01:09
felipe__thanks anyway :D01:09
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mefisto__TECKBW: what's the line you are using in fstab?01:13
ScorpKing:) mefisto__ thanks.01:15
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ScorpKingnite everyone!01:15
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felipe__anyone can help me? :D01:15
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felipe__i need to use the usb mass storage :D01:15
mefisto__felipe__: someone was having trouble with usb hard disk mounting earlier. take a look at this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/110210 and look at the comments at the bottom of the page01:17
felipe__thanks ;)01:18
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semistud2354is it possible to set a password for one folder....01:19
semistud2354im using feisty01:19
semistud2354??01:19
MacZtttlkworkbye01:20
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TECKBWScorpKing  --> this seems to mount when using sudo mount /dev/hdb101:21
TECKBWnow to reboot and to check01:21
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thomas__whats task manager's linux equivalent?01:23
TECKBWi think u can ctrl+esc01:24
mefisto__thomas__: process table. ctrl-esc01:24
TECKBWprocess table01:24
TECKBWlol...first had to check01:24
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thomas__mefisto__: have you heard of konky?01:26
felipe__mefisto__: do you think that if i run an old kernel it'll work fine?01:26
thomas__mefisto__: is that any good?01:26
mefisto__thomas__: heard of it but know nothing about it, sorry01:27
thomas__mefisto__: its annoying I was importing a playlist from my ntfs windows system and it got to 85% and it was almost frozen and didn't respond to keys01:27
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felipe__mefisto__: i've to go01:28
felipe__but thanks for the info01:28
felipe__;)01:28
mefisto__felipe__: can you mount the drive manually?01:29
phoenixzhi there, I just installed kubuntu in a dell latitude D620.. all good and well, but the X screen on my laptop is 4:3 format, while the laptop screen is 16:9. How do I fix this?01:29
felipe__mefisto__: no i cant01:29
felipe__but thanks anyway01:29
felipe__bye01:29
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semistud2354is it possible to set a password for one folder....01:30
semistud2354im using feisty01:30
semistud2354??01:30
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stuqhi all01:35
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stuqin a default gutsy install on my lapper, I'm seeing both kpowersave and power manager come up in the 'system tray'01:36
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stuqdo I need both?01:36
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semistud2354is it possible to set a password for one folder....01:36
brad_hey01:36
danielvirasHi!!01:36
thomas2whenever I import songs to amarok from windows hd it freezes01:36
brad_my wireless connection as been acting like a crazy person01:36
danielvirashi people01:36
brad_well I think both the card and the router are doing seperate bad things01:36
danielvirashow's everybody01:37
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semistud2354is it possible to set a password for one folder....01:37
semistud2354does anyone know01:37
brad_because sometimes I have to reset the router and sometimes restart the computer01:37
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danielvirasI've got a couple of questions01:37
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danielvirasAnyone could help me?01:37
mefisto__semistud2354: is this a folder in your home directory?01:37
elzbaldanielviras: Go ahead and ask.01:38
elzbal!ask01:38
UbotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:38
semistud2354yea.../home/user/Desktop/Downloads01:38
danielvirashaha, sorry, is my first time here01:38
stuqin a default gutsy install on my lapper, I'm seeing both kpowersave and power manager come up in the 'system tray'... do I need both?01:38
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elzbalno worries.  :)01:38
semistud2354so is it possible01:38
danielviraswell.... I just installed compiz fusion to kubuntu, but it doesn't start as the default option... I have to use the replace command every time I boot01:39
semistud2354ive got some important assignments i want to keep safe01:39
danielvirashow do I set it as the default??01:39
thomas1whenever I import songs to amarok from windows hd it freezes01:39
mefisto__semistud2354: do chown --help and see if that's what you want to do. eg chown root /home/username/Desktop/downloads01:39
semistud2354it says operation not permitted....so sudo01:40
semistud2354??01:40
mefisto__semistud2354: yep, sudo before the cmd01:41
semistud2354sudo chown root /home/username/Desktop/Downloads01:41
BluesKajthomas , import the files to a folder in linux then to amarok later , that should work01:42
mefisto__replace "username" with your username of course, or sudo chown root ~/Desktop/Downloads01:42
semistud2354yea01:42
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semistud2354then it should ask for pass when i click on downloads01:43
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mefisto__semistud2354: I think it will just refuse access, unless you sudo first01:43
mefisto__semistud2354: do you want to hide the folder?01:44
danielvirasdoes anyone know how to set compiz as my default compositing window manager????01:44
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elzbaldanielviras: Sorry, I, for one, am not using Compiz.01:46
elzbaldanielviras: You can also try asking on #ubuntu. There's often more people over there, maybe one of them has the answer.01:46
danielvirasok... thanks anyway01:46
danielvirasthanks a lot01:46
danielvirasyou might have the answer to this next question01:47
danielvirasI have an Airlink wireless usb adapter01:47
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danielvirasand I tried to install the windows driver to kubuntu using ndiswrapper01:48
danielvirasyou know... with the .inf file01:48
danielvirasbut it didn't do anything at all, it says it's not a valid driver01:48
danielvirasa haven't been able to use it01:48
danielviras=(01:48
CrellHi all.  How does one initiate a Bluetooth pairing in System Settings?01:48
danielvirasjoin #ubuntu01:49
CrellI'm in the Bluetooth configuration screen, but there's no indication of how to initiate a pairing.01:49
tobias__danielviras: I do use compiz-fusion as well, but I am not having it as my default cwm. I do not remember why, but I was told better NOT to do it because of several reasons. And I mean - I dont care about "compiz --replace" in the beginning :)01:49
danielviraswell Tobias, you might be right... it's not such a big line after all, hehe01:50
tobias__danielviras: concerning your usb problem: isnt there an official linux driver for that adapter ?01:50
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CrellI have a BT mouse that I am trying to pair that is in discovery mode, but I don't know how to tell KDE that.01:51
danielvirasthere isn't01:51
danielvirasI even wrote to the company01:51
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danielvirasand a very kind guy offered to help me with my problem01:52
PriceChildelzbal, in future please suggest #ubuntu-effects instead of #ubuntu, or perhaps #compiz-fusion01:52
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danielvirasbut then discovered I was using linux and said: Sorry but we don't offer linux support01:52
tobias__._.01:52
tobias__okay maybe we can find something on the projekt side of ndiswrapper01:53
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tobias__danielviras: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/index.php?/component/option,com_openwiki/Itemid,33/01:54
tobias__check this out01:54
tobias__maybe you can find something there01:54
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danielvirasthanks tobias01:55
tobias__I would really like to help you but I can hardly keep my eyes open01:55
tobias__:)01:55
tobias__so good luck with your problem01:55
danielvirasdon't worry01:55
tobias__good night01:55
danielvirasgo to sleep01:55
fungosIm trying to run acetoneiso2 .. it says it cant find libQtGui.so.4 but it exists in /usr/lib ....  where should I configure?01:55
phoenixzHi there, I just installed beryl with apt-get but how can I have my session start with beryl all the time? When I start beryl from the command line, there seems to be no window decorator available :(01:55
danielviraswell, here it's good day but ok01:55
danielvirashave a good rest01:55
phoenixzHow can I have this functioning correctly?01:55
tobias__it is 01.55am here, so :)01:55
tobias__phoenixz: #ubuntu-effects01:55
tobias__and your question is weird01:56
tobias__it doesnt make any difference if you start it automatically or by comand01:56
phoenixztobias__, how weird?01:56
tobias__did you install emerald ?01:56
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tobias__you need a window decorator before having beryl use one01:56
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tobias__apt-cache search emerald01:57
tobias__then install what you need01:57
tobias__good luck as well01:57
tobias__and good night !01:57
tobias__^^01:57
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phoenixzI remember using beryl from beryl manager, which would launch into the system tray, but it doesnt anymore01:57
fungoshow to say where the lib.so is located?  $ LD_PATH=/usr/lib ./app  ??01:58
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mefisto__phoenixz: you can't get beryl manager started?01:59
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Zorixcan someone tell me what the default sound system that kubuntu uses? is it alsa?02:00
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javier_alguien habla espaol???02:00
danielvirasyo hablo espaol02:00
danielviraspero no creo serte muy utilk02:00
javier_hola daniel!02:00
danielvirasutil*02:00
javier_de donde?02:00
danielvirassoy newbie02:00
danielvirasde mexico02:00
danielvirastu??02:00
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javier_Hiper newbie02:01
javier_Argentina02:01
danielvirasyeah, argentina rules02:01
danielvirasjaja02:01
javier_no entiendo?02:01
Zorixis there a channel that speaks english02:01
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debianhi all02:01
hydrogenthis is it Zorix..02:01
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Zorixah wasnt sure there for a min02:01
hydrogenyea02:01
flaccidlol02:01
danielvirasyeah zorix, the only ones speaking english are javier and I02:01
danielvirassorry, the onluy ones speaking SPANISH02:02
danielvirasthat's what I menat02:02
danielvirashehe02:02
Zorixwow that some new english words hehe02:02
hydrogennot in here your not.02:02
stimulus<< finially migrated over to kubuntu once i got my wireless working (WOOT WOOT)02:02
danielvirashaha02:02
stimuluslol02:02
Zorixtrying to figure out which sound system kubuntu uses by default02:02
hydrogenarts02:02
hydrogenwhich uses alsa02:02
Zorixok02:02
Zorixi had an error on my pc at work saying cant communicate with the device: default02:03
stimulus. o (arts is a bit glitchy on my system)02:03
Zorixso i switched it from auto to oss02:03
stimulus. o (but im using 6.06 atm)02:03
Zorixbut audio doesnt work now02:03
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flaccidlinux sound is confusing02:03
stimulus. o (waiting for 7.10 to come out)02:03
hydrogenarts has been a bit glitchy since it was released with kde202:03
Zorixwhere can i find and configure arts02:03
stimulusive only had arts crash comepletely on me twice that i remember02:04
stimulusbut i rebooted the computer and everything worked fine02:04
stimulusbut it happens sometimes when im doing a lot02:04
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mefisto__Zorix: where did you make the change from alsa (or auto) to oss?02:04
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stimulusi guess i run out of ram quickly then things start to crash02:04
Zorixin the control center02:04
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gustavo_Ningum fala portugus no, ?02:04
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Zorixi will force alsa and see what it does02:05
Zorixwhere can i find some in depth documentation about arts02:05
Jucato!pt | gustavo_02:05
Ubotugustavo_: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.02:05
mefisto__Zorix: kmenu>system settings>sound system. Go into hardware tab, and change to autodetect or ALSA02:06
dudeiclescan anyone tell me what linspire is and why it actually costs?02:06
stimuluslinspire is a noob version of linux02:06
Zorixmefisto__ yea im going to try and do that, i had it on autodetect but it gives me an artsmessage error about not being able to talk to the device: default02:06
stimuluskubuntu IMHO is better02:06
stimulusprice, i dont know02:06
stimulusif you want free linspure02:07
stimulusspire**02:07
stimuluscheck out freespire02:07
dudeicleslooking at their site, seems they just are kubuntu02:07
stimuluspretty much the same thing02:07
Zorixkubuntu is better than any desktop distro out there i think02:07
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stimuluskubuntu, give or take a little02:07
dudeicleslol02:07
dudeiclesthey're main points are dumb02:07
mefisto__Zorix: that may be because an app is accessing your soundcard and won't let it go, if you know what I mean02:07
Zorixmefisto__, seemed to happen after i installed 32 bit firefox in 6402:08
dudeiclesthey have CNR and KDE02:08
dudeiclesCNR is like apt it seems02:08
dudeiclesor synaptix02:08
dudeiclesthey add KDE, which Kubuntu has.02:08
mefisto__Zorix: have you used any programs in this current session that use sound?02:09
Zorixmefisto__, could it have been from this package: lib32asound202:09
kkathmanevery distro has its KDE/gnome and its package manager02:09
dudeiclesproprietary software, which is so easy to install.02:09
Jucatokkathman: not all :)02:09
kkathmanso in that manner they arent that different02:09
dudeiclesLOL02:09
Zorixmefisto__, lib32asound202:09
kkathmanJucato:  no- its true for the main ones02:09
Jucatounless you don't consider slackware main :)02:09
kkathmanthats why I said "main ones"02:10
Jucatoah so you don't. :)02:10
kkathmanslack may be old, but its way out of mainstream imho02:10
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dudeiclesJucato: Get me a cup. lol02:10
stimuluswhat kind of coffee do you drink jucato?02:10
kkathmanand no I dont consider slack - they are kinda the linspire on the other end of the spectrum :)02:11
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mefisto__Zorix: maybe log out and log in again, then try changing sound to autodetect. Or try a reboot and change it.02:11
Zorixmefisto__, tried reboot and such02:11
stimulushas anybody seen our company site lately?02:11
Zorixbut i will force it to alsa and try when i go back to work in a few hours02:11
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Zorixi saw all the options and wasnt sure which one autodetect was using02:12
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Zorixthanks for your help02:12
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=== flaccid drinking vittoria
mefisto__flaccid: you in oz?02:14
flaccidyep02:14
flaccidthe land of opec02:15
mefisto__hehehe02:15
stimulusvittoria ..... a brand of coffee?02:15
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mefisto__stimulus: yes, in australia at least02:15
flaccidits good and a bit on the dark roast side02:16
stimulusah02:16
flaccidboss writes it off as a tax deduction02:16
dudeiclesis there such thing as Fubuntu?02:16
stimulusi drink anybrand as long as its french roast02:16
dudeicleslol can you install Fedora on Ubuntu?02:16
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flacciddudeicles: not natively no02:17
dudeicleswhat does natively mean?02:17
dudeicleslike it would need it's own partition?02:17
bigleonhitmanWilly you there? Well i managed to F up my computer again.02:17
Jucatoyou can't install Fedora *on* Ubuntu.02:17
dudeiclesright02:17
dudeiclesis it a good distro?02:18
stimulusglad as heck you cant02:18
flaccidwell technically if you installed it into a vm you would be installing fedora on ubuntu02:18
stimulusi dont like fedora at all02:18
stimulusdoesnt come with half the stuff i use02:18
dudeiclesstimulus: how come?02:18
Jucatoflaccid: that would be installing Fedora *in* a VM02:18
stimulusyet it comes with all the other stuff i will probably never use02:18
stimulusbesides i perfer ubuntu02:18
stimulusover fedora02:18
JucatoYMMV02:18
stimulusor any other flavor02:18
dudeiclesI like Kubuntu02:18
stimuluskubuntu is ok02:18
dudeiclesit's fun02:18
flaccidindeed Jucato. but you are installing it on ubuntu02:18
stimulusim the gnome time02:18
stimulustype**02:18
dudeiclesah02:18
dudeicleslol02:18
stimulusbut kde is good02:19
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flaccidthats why i said not natively and technically heh02:19
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago!!!!!!!!02:19
stimulusits what i first started using when i was first introduced to linux02:19
dudeicleskde is just a desktop manager right?02:19
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dudeiclesis there others than KDE and gnome?02:19
Jucatodesktop environment02:19
stimulusyes kde is a desktop manager02:19
JucatoXfce02:19
stimulusenvironment i mean02:19
stimulusKDM is a desktop manager02:19
dudeicleswhat is Xfce?02:19
JucatoKDM is a display manager02:19
stimulusKDE is a desktop environment02:19
Jucato!xfce | dudeicles02:19
stimulusXFCE is an environment02:19
Ubotududeicles: xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels02:19
flaccidxfce is a window manager02:19
stimulusi think it means XFaCE02:19
Jucatono02:19
stimulusbut im probably wrong02:19
dudeiclesI mean does it change anything as far as looks?02:20
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JucatoXfce is a Desktop environment02:20
stimulusor XinterFaCE02:20
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stimuluslol02:20
flaccidJucato: what window manager does it use02:20
mefisto__dudeicles: xfce is more like gnome than kde, but is more lightweight02:20
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Jucatoflaccid: xfwm02:20
dudeiclesah02:20
stimulusxfce is an environment, the E in XFCE kinda gives it awayt02:20
stimulus:P02:20
Admiral_Chicagohey Jucato02:20
dudeiclesJucato: sorry02:20
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flaccidok my bad sorry02:20
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dudeiclesstimulus:  we may have to finish this in #kubuntu-offtopic02:21
dudeicleslol02:21
flaccidyeah flaccid only good with um on topic stuff heh02:21
dudeicleswhich I guess you're not in. lol02:21
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thomas__hello I'm having trouble importing songs into amarok02:23
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thomas__it stalls and gets reallllllly slow and then eventually stops importing02:23
bigleonHey guys02:23
bigleonguess with leon did again02:24
bigleonwhat*02:24
draikDoes anyone here know about Live Processing? I know it's got something to do with credit cards and merchant accounts.02:24
mefisto__thomas__: you may have some corrupt mp3s02:24
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thomas__maybe but how do I find out02:24
bigleonmefisto__ you know all that work this morning, rofl it crashed again and i had to start from scratch02:24
flacciddraik: this is kubuntu support channel02:24
flaccidamarok can get like that imo02:25
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mefisto__bigleon: what was that? I don't remember what you were doing02:25
bigleonupgrading from 6.10 to 7.0402:25
draikflaccid: Where do you suggest I ask? I just figured someone in here would know. I may be offered a new position and I want to get a feel for live processing.02:26
bigleonsomething screwed up and keyset failed02:26
freeman.......02:26
freemanwhy02:26
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flacciddraik: #web02:27
flaccidgoogle is best02:27
draikGoogle Linux and Google Hacker were of no help02:27
freemanbaidu  is  better than google02:27
flaccidalso wikipedia. transaction processing is usually all proprietery. anyway,,02:27
draikflaccid: IIRC, it is run under a Linux environment.02:28
draikAt work anyway02:28
phoenixzHi there, I just installed kubutu on a Dell latitude D620 laptop, which has a 16:9 screen, but I only have 1024x786 like (4:3) resolutions available.. How do I fix this??02:28
dudeicles!resolution | phoenixz02:28
Ubotuphoenixz: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:28
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mefisto__thomas__: are you adding songs to your collection in the configure window? or are you doing something else?02:29
dudeiclesfollow their automatic resolution phoenixz02:29
dudeiclesit worked well for me.02:29
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flacciddraik: can be under anything. i do this stuff for a living..02:29
thomas__adding media02:29
thomas__mefisto__: i successfully added some by doing only a few at a time, but I still hae a lot to go02:30
draikI figure as much, but I believe I was told they [work]  run it under Linux02:30
mefisto__thomas__: how are you adding them? are you moving files to a new location?02:31
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flaccid'it' can be any prop. system..02:31
thomas__mefisto__: no, playlist > add media > and from folders02:32
draikflaccid: I just know they use Linux. I thought I'd get an idea here about it.02:32
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mefisto__thomas__: have you tried from settings>configure amarok, and choosing where your songs are?02:33
flacciddraik: yeah linux is an operating system. not middleware or processing.02:33
mefisto__thomas__: in collection in the configure window02:33
thomas__mefisto__: no02:33
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sea4everah, I finally found something I wanted in Adept02:34
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mefisto__thomas__: also make sure it's using sqlite02:34
thomas__mefisto__: hold on I think I tried that, I scanned folders02:34
thomas__sqlite?02:34
phoenixzdudeicles, thanks alot!02:35
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thomas__mefisto__: it works after doing a few folders maybe I can do the rest one by one02:35
dudeiclesphoenixz: did it work for you also?02:35
phoenixzanother question, adept manager has crashed on me, again.. Im on another computer and dont have the fix by hand: when I start adept, it says I cant modify anything because the DB is locked.. How was this quickly fixed again??02:35
NickPresta!aptfix | phoenixz02:36
Ubotuphoenixz: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 02:36
mefisto__in the collection section, in configure amarok. collection database (under the folders)02:36
dudeiclesmake sure there's nothing else using the DB02:36
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phoenixzNickPresta, exactly what I was looking for, thanks a lot!02:36
thomas__mefisto__: amarok doesn't have any keyboard shortcuts, for next song, or volume....02:37
phoenixzdudeicles, Dunno yet, just started to read.. Ill let you know02:37
Jucatothomas__: it has02:37
dudeiclesk :)02:37
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thomas__Jucato: how do i find those out02:37
Jucatothomas__: Settings -> Configure Global Shortcuts02:37
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lameckalgum usurio do Kubuntu que fale portugus02:38
thomas__Jucato: hehe nice02:38
Jucato!pt | lameck02:38
Ubotulameck: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.02:38
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sea4everhellow, can anyone tell me where TCC keeps it's header files?02:41
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mefisto__thomas__: also some of the filenames you're adding might have odd characters, could be causing problems. see if there's anything unusual that stands out02:42
draikJucato: Hello02:42
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Jucatohi draik!! :)02:43
draikflaccid: Where is a good place to ask about using VMware Workstation. I want to load my winxp partition in there02:43
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thomas__mefisto__: maybe02:46
flaccid!vmware02:46
UbotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers02:46
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flaccidalso #vmware and also the documentation on their site and google...02:46
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Almighty_HenaroHelloooo~02:50
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Almighty_HenaroAnyeone know how to get rid of the Shift+Backspace Hot key in KDE02:50
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Almighty_HenaroAnyone*02:50
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lixiaobohello02:51
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BluesKajflaccid, check this out, http://www.vmware.com/download/open_source.html02:51
freemanwhat?02:52
flaccidwhen did that come out BluesKaj02:53
BluesKajwell, it ain't free flaccid ...you need a serial #02:54
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flaccidyeah but when did it come out02:54
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flaccidie. open source02:55
CrellHi all.  On a fresh Kubuntu Feisty, I was able to use the SD card reader built into my Thinkpad T61 to work out of the box.  I upgraded the kernel to 2.6.22-10 out of Gutsy, however, in order to get audio and WiFi working.  Since then, the SD card slot is ignored.  Any idea why or what to do about it?02:55
BluesKajeagles098 ..whatever his nick was showed me a site where it was free open source02:55
BluesKaj not sure whwn, flaccid02:55
BluesKajwhen02:55
flaccidok mate02:55
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kkathmanhowdy BluesKaj :)02:56
kkathmansup02:56
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BluesKajhey kkathman, oh mot much ..how about you ?02:57
BluesKajerr not much :)02:57
kkathmandoin ok man :)02:57
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BluesKajtried to load kubuntu 7.04 live cd on a friend's pc this aft , but it wouldn't load ...his graphics weren't supported ...MDG pc , made here in Canada , using some taiwan made onboard graphics02:59
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BluesKajso not all pc's are linux/debian/kubuntu friendly03:00
BluesKajit's p4 with 512 ram...it should work03:01
NickPrestaBluesKaj, tell me about it. My girlfriend Dell laptop's X1300 and Kubuntu doesn't seem to play nice together.03:01
BluesKajhey NickPresta , you know the crap pc I'm talking about then...a mix of good hardware and junky peripherals03:02
NickPrestaBluesKaj, indeed. It's a pain to work with...03:02
BluesKajHe wants to try Kubuntu , but i can't even demo it , a real pITA03:03
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NickPrestaBluesKaj, yeah. It certainly doesn't help the idea that Linux is hard to use and scary to newbies. Nothing screams "complicated" like dropping into a console and doing a `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg` to fix resolution/graphics problems :)03:05
BluesKajyeah, no kidding , I recall having to go thru the motions a yr or so ago with daskreech and Jucato , trying to reconfigure X from the TTY prompt on irssi03:08
mefisto__I read somewhere that will be less common in gutsy, a minimal graphical fallback for x or something?03:08
BluesKajstrange, a dell that's anti- linux tho , usually they're quite linux friendly03:08
purpleposeidonI'd like to up my resolution, but system settings only goes up to 1280x1024...how to fix?03:09
BluesKajlets hope so mefisto__ , i don't plan on spending anymore on this pc03:09
BluesKajwhich graphics drivers , purpleposeidon?03:10
purpleposeidonI don't know....03:11
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mefisto__is anyone using kde4? how usable is it at the moment?03:11
purpleposeidonThe default ones, I guess. "Intel(r) Extreme Graphics with up to 64mb shared video memory" is what it says on the label. :P03:12
BluesKajpurpleposeidon, in the terminal type : lspci | grep -i vga03:13
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mefisto__is "grep" short for something?03:14
DragnslcrI always think it's "get regular expression"03:15
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DragnslcrI doubt that's what it's really supposed to mean though03:15
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mefisto__Dragnslcr: you're close. wikipedia says it's "search Globally for lines matching the Regular Expression, and Print them"03:17
DragnslcrMakes sense03:18
purpleposeidononly off by about 7 words, right?03:18
DragnslcrI knew the regular expression part03:18
BluesKajgrep = prints lines matching a pattern...is all i can seem to find03:18
BluesKajaha03:18
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DragnslcrThe other two letters are kinda extraneous03:18
purpleposeidonBluesKaj: 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)03:18
illriginalDoes anyone know how to tweak  cable modem by changing settings in Ubuntu????03:19
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flaccidillriginal: usually you do that on the modem itself03:19
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BluesKajpurpleposeidon, ok, those are good graphics from what i've heard03:20
purpleposeidonlike, compiz-graphics? :D03:20
mefisto__tweak as in "make my downloads super-fast"?03:20
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BluesKajpurpleposeidon, dunno for sure03:20
illriginalflaccid from my understanding there's settings on Ubuntu that sort of limits the speed03:21
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flaccidwhere did you get this understanding from03:21
mefisto__win98?03:22
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arkygeekhi03:24
arkygeekfyi:  to get a # from an iMac running ubuntu, you simply hold down the RT-ALT and hit 303:25
arkygeekRT-ALT and 2 gives the 03:25
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mefisto__thanks arkygeek!03:26
|kklaubb|is it common to download software tha you have to compile yourself?03:26
arkygeek|kklaubb|: yes, but you get a more stable system if you can get the from the repos03:27
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BluesKajpurpleposeidon, k-menu/system settings/monitor&display/hardware-tab/admin mode/graphics card/configure. Find your card in the list and "apply" , same goes for the monitor, if possible.Click "test". If all is well, logout and back in again. Now you should be able to reset the resolution to your needs.03:28
thomas__i installed openssh-server. Is there any way I can open it in a GUI? Configure it?03:29
hydrogenno03:29
hydrogenwell03:29
hydrogenyou can open the config file in kate03:29
thomas__hydrogen: sigh, really I have to configure everything by text03:30
thomas__hydrogen: thats hard03:30
hydrogenyes03:30
hydrogenits a server program03:30
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thomas__.......03:30
flaccidwhats there to configure..03:31
NickPrestathomas__, most of the time, things like Apache, SSH, FTP, etc are run on boxes with X or any sort of graphical output. Hence, plain-text configuration...03:31
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thomas__flaccid: what do you mean......what to configure....everything03:31
ks3thomas__, for the most part, getting an ssh server running is a matter of installing and starting the server03:32
thomas__NickPresta: yea I have apache installed on my windows machine which I configured through text but thats annoying. IS APACHE A BETTER WAY OF DOWNLOADING FILES FROM MY COMPUTER OR SSH?03:32
flaccidthomas__: what is everything? please be specific03:32
ks3thomas__, there's not generally much configuration required unless you want to customize authentication methods, etc...03:32
flaccidthomas__: dont' shout!03:32
thomas__flaccid: lmao i'm not shouting hehe03:33
flaccidthere is no better way. they are different protocols for different purposes03:33
flaccidcapitals = shouting03:33
thomas__flaccid: lol i guess03:33
thomas__flaccid: its more like a highlight03:33
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flaccidno its not. its shouting.03:33
BluesKaj!shout03:34
UbotuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.03:34
thomas__flaccid: well yes I would like to get a password and username going, and basicaly connect to my machine from other comps03:34
flaccidthomas__: thats user admin nothing to do with the ssh server03:34
hydrogenerr03:34
hydrogenssh allows you to login with the accounts on a computer already03:35
hydrogennot with special ssh accounts03:35
flaccidyou can go to user management in system settings for that03:35
thomas__are you serious omg....in windows, when doing apache I had to configure all usernames and passwords03:35
hydrogenits not apache.03:35
hydrogenits ssh.03:35
hydrogenif you don't understand this you probably sohuldn't be using it03:35
thomas__hydrogen: hey you shouldn't discourage people03:36
flaccidthis is not windows either03:36
hydrogenthomas__: I shouldn't discourage a first year medical student from operating on me?03:36
flaccidexactly03:36
thomas__flaccid: i know, i know i'm just stating that i guess this is much easier03:36
BluesKajlets's keep the high horses in the stable ok gents !03:37
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kkathmanwhat hospital would have a 1st year med student operating - maybe assisting :)03:37
flaccidi'd like to think so. thomas__ its better to ask us general question on how you should do something instead of having assumptions about how you think it should be03:37
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thomas__flaccid: ok well its installed03:38
flaccidok now people can login via ssh as long as they have a valid shell. the default/first user in ubuntu has bash03:38
thomas__flaccid: if I want to log in from a windows machine?03:40
hydrogenthen you need to download putty03:40
hydrogenwhich is a ssh client for windows03:40
hydrogenbut, you will only have a terminal03:41
hydrogenso if your not happy configuring without a gui03:41
hydrogenIt may not be what you are looking for03:41
flaccidother options are vnc and xdcmp and even thinclient if you require remote gui..03:41
mefisto__thomas__: are you just experimenting, or are you trying to achieve something specific?03:42
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thomas__mefisto__: i'm trying to actually eventually be able to connect from somewhere03:42
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hydrogenwhat do you want to be able to do when you connect though?03:43
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flaccidlol03:44
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thomas__hydrogen: download files03:45
thomas__hydrogen: or read03:45
hydrogendo you want a gui when you do so?03:46
purpleposeidonyou'd probably want ftp then03:46
thomas__hydrogen: wouldn't that be easier?03:46
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hydrogenthomas__: well, ssh won't give you one03:46
hydrogenpurpleposeidon: well, i'd suggest scp (which runs over ssh) or sftp but03:47
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thomas__well i remembber that in school they had a gui that connected to a server03:47
kkathmanIm pretty sure you can run vnc via ss but I havent tried in a few months03:48
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izzybI need to install a cisco vpn client that requires me compile a new module.  the install is choking and I'm not sure why03:48
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purpleposeidonizzyb: heimlich manuver. (sp?)03:49
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izzybThe error I'm getting is linux/config.h: no such file or directory03:50
ks3izzyb, there's a vpnc in the repositories that is supposed to be compatible with the cisco client... haven't tried it lately, though03:50
izzybI think it's looking in /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.20-16-generic03:50
izzybno03:50
izzybthanks for the tip03:50
izzybpurpleposeidon, hehe ;)03:50
izzybbut I'd like to understand this problem also (although I'll install from the repository if that works ;)03:51
izzybI was guessing the prolbem was I didn't have kernel source03:51
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izzybso I installe dthat and the build essentials03:51
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izzybbut when I try making the kernel, it complains with the above03:52
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izzybI did a make oldconfig first03:52
ks3izzyb, i don't think that file exists with the newer kernels... i believe i ran into that with another module03:53
ks3izzyb, lemme see if i can dig up the info...03:53
izzybthat seemed to work, but the make doesn't.  complains about init/built-in.o doesn't exist03:53
notvi want to dual boot feisty and vista on a laptop03:53
izzybsorry, the error is different from above03:53
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izzybks3, thanks...03:54
notvis it best to start from scratch or can i repartition with windows already on there03:54
kkathmannotv partitioning is the least of your worries :)03:54
notvi have to have windows for school03:55
kkathmanand you can do that as long as you defag and have enough room03:55
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notvits a brand new laptop with 160G03:55
notvi havent even taken it out of the box yet03:55
mefisto__notv: kubuntu will do the partitioning for you when installing. But back up anything you can't afford to lose, of course03:55
notvwhats the best file system to use03:56
jared__I have a quick question, if anyone has time.  :)03:56
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notvdo i need to partition a swap drive03:56
kkathmannotv: but, vista has alot of weird things - you might check with ##windows and ask there as many of the folks there run (k)ubuntu with vista dually03:56
izzybks3: just found vpnc whicch is supposed to be cisco compatablle03:56
izzybtrying it now03:56
notvthanks03:57
kkathmanvista, unlike XP, doesnt like to be dual booted03:57
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mefisto__notv: maybe consider installing XP with kubuntu?03:58
izzybkkathman, really?  I hadn't noticed a problem03:58
notvyea but the laptop came with vista03:58
izzybalthough I have to admit, I don''t spend much time in vista :)03:58
notvi dont want to purchase a copy of windows03:58
kkathmanizzyb:  kewl - I just know a few people that have had glitches03:58
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ks3here's a link re: nonexistant config.h for another app - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30847703:58
BluesKajBCD 170 ...MBR for vista dual boot...check it out03:58
ks3it's got a dummy config.h you could try03:58
kkathmannotv:  you got a laptop with NO O/S on it?03:58
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izzybwell, I know the ntfs format has changed  and using any old version of ntfs tools corrupts it03:58
ks3if vpnc doesn't work out...03:58
izzybthat's a bad spot03:58
kkathmanthats very unusual03:58
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izzybbut modern versions seem to have that figured out03:59
izzybks3, thanks :)03:59
kkathmanizzyb: yeah thats true03:59
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BluesKajnotv, Easy BCD 170 , an app for dual booting Vista & LInux04:02
notvkkathman the laptop came with vista preinstalled04:02
notvi found a tutorial and it looks pretty straightforward04:03
flaccidsounds scary04:03
notvit says windows can create the unpartitioned space04:03
notvand then i just pop in the cd for ubuntu04:03
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ardchoillenotv: You're going to have to do some work if Windows creates that partition as NTFS04:04
hydrogenerr04:04
hydrogenno04:04
hydrogenit creates nonpartitionedspace04:04
hydrogenthat means it doesn't have a file system04:04
ardchoilleAh, ok04:05
notvwont it just leave it unpartitioned04:05
hydrogenyea04:05
hydrogenit will04:05
flaccidunallocated or an actual partition hydrogen?04:05
notvokay04:05
hydrogenunallocated04:05
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ardchoilleI wouldn't think Win would give you that flexibility04:05
hydrogenvista added a partitioner04:06
flaccidoh nice heh04:06
notvanyone know how to put linux on an ipod?04:07
hydrogensee rockbox.org04:07
hydrogenwell04:07
hydrogenno, thats opensource firmware04:07
hydrogenthat is really cool04:07
ks3ipodlinux04:07
hydrogenbut its not linux04:07
ks3but i use rockbox, too04:07
hydrogenthat'd be the word i was searching for04:07
ks3it rocks :)04:07
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flaccidgoogle is great for finding stuff on this :)04:08
BluesKaj!google04:08
UbotuGoogle is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux04:08
hydrogen!yahoo04:08
UbotuSorry, I don't know anything about yahoo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:08
hydrogenwow04:08
hydrogentalk about bias04:08
hydrogenhow much did google pay the ubotu developers?04:08
hydrogento get this advantage04:08
hydrogen!live04:08
UbotuUbuntu Dapper 'Desktop' CD contains a Live CD (Ubuntu that runs straight off the CD and RAM) with an install option. Breezy's Live CD contained no install.04:08
hydrogenthere again04:09
BluesKajhydrogen , here's yer answer http://google.com/linux04:09
mefisto__google pays quite a lot I think04:09
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BluesKajactually google linux isn't all that great04:10
BluesKajseems to have alotta suse and fedora lists04:10
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flaccidgutsy is feeling a bit more stable now heh04:26
Biovorergr04:27
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jared__hey04:27
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mefisto__is xfce pronounced X-face? how do YOU say it04:29
flaccidmefisto__: http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=pronounce+xfce&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-804:30
Biovoremefisto__: I say it that way04:30
flaccidmixed opinion04:30
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flaccidalso see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xfce04:31
Jucatohttp://wiki.xfce.org/faq04:32
Jucatoofficial opinion04:32
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Jucaton8k99!!04:32
n8k99hory cow! i'd better hide before Jucato sees me04:33
Jucatohory hahah!04:33
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n8k99Jucato: are you in offtopic?04:34
Jucatonope04:34
Jucatotrimming down on my auto-join channels  :)04:34
n8k99how bout i can pc you04:34
Jucatopc me?04:34
n8k99um, personal query or something like that04:34
Jucatoah pm04:34
n8k99yeah- month long sabbatical and all04:35
Jucatohah! you too? :)04:35
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JucatoI'm in offtopic now bt04:35
Jucatobtw04:35
mefisto__what about xubuntu? is the X an african "click" sound? hehe04:35
Jucatobut you can pc me if you want04:35
Jucatoand what would you say about edubuntu? :)04:36
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thomas__hey does anyone know how to import outlook express address book to thunderbird?04:41
mefisto__thomas__: on linux? it's automatic on windows isn't it?04:42
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thomas__mefisto__: yes on linux04:43
thomas__mefisto__: i have outlook express on windows04:43
thomas__mefisto__: but want info to thunderbird on linux04:43
BluesKajthomas__, import the addressbook as an ldif file to a folder in linux , the import the file with thunderbird's addressbook using edit or tools04:44
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thomas__BluesKaj: huh?04:45
thomas__BluesKaj: you mean save the windows addressbook file as name.idif then import into thunderbirtd linux?04:46
mefisto__thomas__: you could install tb in windows (if you haven't already) and import everything, then in linux point your thunderbird profile/Mail directory to use the windows tb profile/Mail directory. That's what I did. So in windows and linux, tb is more or less the same.04:46
thomas__mefisto__: aww i see04:46
mefisto__if you just want the addressbook, do what BluesKaj said04:47
BluesKajyou have to import the file from your linux filder using the options in the thunderbird address book04:47
BluesKajerr folder04:47
BluesKajI even imported the wifes address book from her xp pc into kmail04:48
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mefisto__you can also symlink firefox's bookmarks.html between windows and linux, to keep bookmarks in sync for both04:49
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titanioholaa04:49
thomas__mefisto__: yea i might want to get bookmarks too but this first04:51
BluesKajI dumped T-Bird 2.0 cuz it wouldn't launch links with FF or any other browser04:51
mefisto__BluesKaj: you have to set network.protocol-handler.app.http to /usr/bin/firefox (or whatever browser) in tb's about:config04:53
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thomas__BluesKaj: i dont get what you want me to do04:54
thomas__BluesKaj: with importing as ldif04:54
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kubuntu.04:54
kubuntutem algum brasileiro aew04:54
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Jucato!br | kubuntu04:55
Ubotukubuntu: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.04:55
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BluesKajin outlook express, open the adressbook , look for edit or tools to export the addressbook file , it'll ask you to save as , then choose ldif  and save it a folder in windows then copy the file from the windows folder to the linux /home/yourname if you wish , then open t-bird and edit or tools  and import the file04:57
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BluesKajwell gents, it's sacktime here ..getting tired ..nite all, take care04:58
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_2oh my05:07
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NightBirdlike mine's an mobility 1150, but flglx detects it as a mobility 20005:13
flacciddang05:13
NightBirdyeah, thats a whole 950 below what it should be05:13
NightBird( :P )05:13
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intelikey05:23
intelikey 343 = 101010111_205:23
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flaccidin hex now :p05:26
bob1nzhey i keep getting e msg when i try modprobe saying that it isnt loaded?05:27
thomas__why does it time the amoutn of time that i'm away from my computer lol? anyway I connected to my computer via ssh05:27
intelikeyflaccid :)05:28
thomas__i was unable to download anything because I didn't know how, GET command din't work, but how do I stop the server? or restrict people from coming in?05:28
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intelikeythomas__ you can kill the server  or iptables can restrict access.05:32
intelikeyflaccid   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3951005:32
flaccidyou can't just run a command to get something through a ssh shell session. you don't use ssh for that usually you use scp05:32
flaccidto restrict people, its basic user management. give them the nologin shell to stop them being able to log in05:32
flaccidcan you port that to ksh now please intelikey :p05:33
intelikeyflaccid actually you can "get" things through ssh sessions.    ssh cat blah > blah   granted that's not the best way.05:33
flaccidyeah thats ouchy, but i guess you are right yeah05:34
flaccidthats probably similar to what scp does anyway05:34
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terrestrehow i can know a ip of a msn05:34
intelikeyflaccid you system should have /bin/sh  and it should be posix compliant.  so it doesn't need ported...05:34
NightBirdwooo it installed, it thinks it has hardware acceleration for 3d and.... glxgears crashes05:36
intelikeyyou/your05:36
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NightBirdwell, I call it crashing... it's more that it locked up the syste05:36
NightBirdm05:37
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intelikeythat's crash +105:37
intelikey:)05:37
NightBirdbut everything was a lot smoother in general.... before I was using the open source driver and... well, things didn't move so smoothly...05:37
NightBirdand the fglrx before that wouldn't install properly :P05:38
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hydrogen NightBird: did you do nvidia-glx-config enable after installing? (might be the cause of the glxgears hang)05:39
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NightBirdhydrogen: um.... I'm not using nvidia05:39
hydrogenoh05:39
hydrogenI thought that when you had good results with propriatery drivers it had to be nvidia05:40
hitmanWillylol05:40
NightBirdhydrogen: looks like amd/ati is cleaning themselves up actually05:40
NightBirdpast week or two has been filled with lots of signs of a shake up for them05:40
notvafter 30 minutes of using vista im getting angry with it05:40
holybovinenotv: how so?05:41
hitmanWillyyeah, i must say, i think i might see an aerial pig in the morning...lol05:41
NightBirdreleasing all the specs on their video cards(so far, only 2d, but 3d will be following soon), a big improvement in 3d, and support for aiglx05:41
notvits repartioner is being a bother05:41
notvwont let me give windows less than 75G05:41
hydrogenwell you know that vista needs that much to be installed!05:41
notvhaha05:41
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hitmanWillythat's just sad...05:41
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intelikeylooks like i'm in for a bumpy ride05:42
NightBirdwhoo... 305 fps in fgl_glxgears, which is a fair bit better tahn what it was before..05:42
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nemisisdoes anyone know how to disable suspend in fiesty?05:43
NightBird1660 from glxgears05:43
intelikeyheh.05:43
intelikeyXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".05:43
intelikeyError: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual05:43
NightBirdso... looks like 3d is back and working(and doing quite a bit better than before)05:43
holybovinenotv: figures05:44
hitmanWillyintelikey, what version of X are you running05:44
notvis there much difference between kubuntu and ubuntu with kde desktop installed?05:44
hitmanWillyintelikey, that should be built in on a buntu box...05:44
hitmanWillynotlabled, zero05:44
intelikeyX Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.005:45
hitmanWillysorry, notv05:45
hitmanWillynotv all the buntu flavors are identical under the hood05:45
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notvi cant wait05:46
notvto get buntu studio goin on05:46
intelikeynotv no.  not much differance.  but the default apps will be the gnome apps unless you install kubuntu-desktop05:46
intelikeyand i don't advise installing more than one meta package of the desktop05:47
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hydrogennotv: ubuntu with the kde desktop installed just has more packages than kubuntu05:48
hydrogenbecause installing the kde desktop doesn't uninstall the gnome desktop05:48
intelikeyand different defaults05:48
notvwell thats cool. ill just stay with that. sometimes i want to use gnome05:48
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notvwindows is being ridiculous. im going to have to load buntu first05:49
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intelikeyhitmanWilly but i did mention that my nvidia card is not supported.05:50
hydrogennotv: installing vista after linux may be problematic as well05:51
notvhow so?05:51
hitmanWillyintelikey, ah, didn't see that05:51
hydrogenvista may be borglike05:51
hydrogenand eat it05:51
hydrogennot sure05:51
notvwell05:52
hitmanWillyintelikey, sorry, ive been in an out all night05:52
notvat least ill have linux05:52
notvthats the primary concern05:52
hydrogenas it should be :)05:52
hydrogentheres always virtualbox05:52
intelikeymbr   so you'll have to redo grub for sure05:52
notvwhats that?05:52
hitmanWillyit'll take over the boot record, that's for sure05:52
hydrogenlets you run windows from within linux05:52
hydrogenvirtualizing it05:52
notvbut you still install it, right?05:52
notvyou still install windows05:53
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hydrogenyea05:53
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hydrogenbut from within linux05:53
notvthis is amazing05:53
notvi must do this05:54
hydrogenI need windows (or osx) until someone releases a cad program that doesn't suck for linux05:54
notvi hear you05:54
notvim using pro engineering at school05:54
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hydrogenbecause its wayyy to complicated05:55
hydrogen:)05:55
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hydrogentheres a reason a good cad program costs 2k+05:56
notvyea05:56
notvtheres not enough capital in an open source cad project05:56
hydrogenand 2k is kind of low end05:56
intelikeyso they leave it to us high school drop outs to write it as always05:56
notvhere here05:57
notvson of a05:57
notvi hit f12 let me boot from cd05:57
notvwith the ubuntu start up disk format my drive for me05:58
notvwill*05:58
intelikeythat is a question05:58
intelikeyyes05:58
hitmanWillynotv, if you tell it too05:58
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intelikeyactually unless you tell it not too05:58
intelikeybut it will ask05:58
notvwindows does want it to boot off cd05:59
notvmaybe it senses its doom05:59
notvdoesnt*05:59
notvcrap05:59
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intelikeycontrarry to popular belief, on can type like that and still successuflly install linux.    i'm living proff notv06:00
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dudeicleslol intelikey06:00
notvnot at this rate06:00
notvmaybe my disk is bad06:00
dwidmannintelikey: speeling porblem?06:01
intelikeynotv is this a total wipe out and reload ?06:01
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notvyes06:01
intelikeydwidmann no.   i speel liek this all the tiem06:01
notvi told it to boot from cd, but it ignored me06:02
intelikeynotv then i'd sujest "badblocks" on the drive   with the "write" switch  if you can spare the time.   it will try to make three passes by default.06:02
notvoh06:03
notvthere it goes06:03
intelikeybut testing the full drive is a good idea if there is any chance that the disk maybe giveing errors.06:03
intelikeydwidmann  see   ^   giveing  :)06:04
notvi dunno, its working now.06:04
dwidmannintelikey: :)06:04
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intelikeydwidmann but they didn't teach us how to read and write where i went to school,  they tough us how much an oz of smack was worth compaired to a kg of pot06:05
Kubuntero!info virtualbox06:06
UbotuPackage virtualbox does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas06:06
intelikeyand how to hide a hand gun on your person...  things like that.06:06
dwidmannintelikey: wow, they skipped right to the useful information, kudos to them06:06
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intelikeydwidmann so my spelling is attrocious <!/sp>  but i can "throw down" with the best and badest.06:07
dwidmannhehehe06:08
notvive heard its good to put your home folder on a different drive06:10
notvwill that slow things down and is it much of a good idea06:10
intelikeynotv makes reloading without loosing your personal *  much smoother06:10
notvi need lowest latency possible. will separate drives affect the latency?06:11
dwidmannintelikey: fortunately for me konversation has built in spell checking.06:11
intelikeyspeed wise, you'll never know it, unless for some reason the other drive is slow.06:11
intelikeydwidmann :)06:11
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notvwell essentially its the same drive, i would just be partioning it06:11
intelikeydwidmann hehhe  try bitchx a while... lets see how you fair without it  :)06:12
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intelikeynotv then no differance at all.   speed overhead wise that is.06:12
level1hi, I have a key that currently causes the amarok window to appear, and I want to assign it to something else but I can't because I can't figure out where the current assignment is coming from and it overrides everything else I try to do to the key06:12
dwidmannintelikey: erm, maybe tomorrow. As for now, I need to get to bed so I can not sleep and wake up feeling terrible in the morning.06:13
intelikeydwidmann k.  shalom06:13
notvhow much should i allocate for feisty, then, and should i put windows via virtual box on the same drive06:13
dwidmannintelikey: mmhmm, good night06:14
level1wow, this magical shortcut is able to do what nothing else can: open multiple instances of amarok06:14
intelikeynotv about 6 to 9 gig is plenty  and probably not  if you can allocate space for it without it being in the same fs06:14
notvfeisty only takes 9G?06:15
intelikeylevel1 heh06:15
level1notv: I personally find 6 gigs restrictive, you should allocate a few more than 6, 9 might be enough06:15
intelikeynotv no. it will only take about 3g06:15
intelikeyso i was liberal06:15
notvbut vista takes 1506:15
dwidmannnotv: shouldn't take more than 2gb, but that would be rather restrictive about what you're adding on later06:16
notvalright i ran into an x window problem06:16
hitmanWillynotv, for a default install, i'd say 10-15 would be more than enough06:16
notvhow can i trouble shoot the x window issue06:16
intelikeyhitmanWilly of vesta ?06:16
level1its all a matter of how much space you'll end up needing, but 9 is comfortable for most people, probably06:16
dwidmannnotv: look for EE in /var/log/Xorg.0.log06:16
hydrogenlevel1: probably WIN + p, right?06:16
intelikeyhitmanWilly surely you aren't talking about linux ?06:16
hitmanWillyintelikey, no, for kubu...are you high?06:16
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level1hydrogen: I don't think you understand the problem06:16
intelikeyhitmanWilly it won't take 3g for the system06:17
Kubuntero!ps306:17
UbotuSorry, I don't know anything about ps3 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:17
hitmanWillyintelikey, i like a little more breathing room06:17
dwidmannhitmanWilly: you already knew the answer to that question before you asked it :s06:17
hydrogenlevel1: well, if I know the key combination I might be able to tell you where its coming from06:17
hydrogenI think its probably an amarok global shortcut06:17
notvit says vesa(0): no matching modes06:17
notv(EE) screen found, but none have a usable configuration06:17
hydrogennotv: if you are  putting windows on via virtualbox it makes a partition file on the partition06:18
hydrogenso it needs to be a big enough partition to hold vista and linux06:18
notvubuntu doesnt want me to have a screen on my toshiba06:18
dwidmannnotv, that's a good start, but someone else can help you narrow it down the rest of the way, as I need to go to bed and not sleep06:18
level1hydrogen: theres a particular key on my keyboard (XF86Media) that opens a new instance of amarok, its not part of the amarok config and its not mentioned in the KMenu editor.  I want XF86Media to open the kopete window, but I can't because something is grabbing the event and redirecting it to amarok.  What?06:18
hydrogenah06:19
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notvhow do i fix the x window problem?06:19
Doctor_Nickis there a way of artificially slowing down processes on linux?06:19
rrbizI installed outlook 2000, but it needs IE4 or IE5 and either ones wanted to go online to update b4 installing, someone know a trick around this ?06:19
KubunteroDoctor_Nick: what are you trying to do?06:20
rrbizusing wine for the installs06:20
Doctor_Nickim running a simple c program with an infinite loop06:20
level1notv: In my experience, that means that the driver you have chosen for you computer isn't working correctly and you'll have to either fix the driver or choose another one06:20
KubunteroDoctor_Nick: toss in a sleep06:20
Doctor_Nickthe caveat is that I cant use sleep :P06:20
hydrogenlevel1: I'd think it might be khotkeys?06:20
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jared__I have a question if someone has time?06:21
level1hydrogen: it said "ERROR: Communication problem with khotkeys, it probably crashed." but I can still use my hotkeys06:21
level1!ask | jared__06:21
Ubotujared__: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)06:21
nemisisdoes anyone know how to disable suspend in fiesty?06:23
hydrogenlevel1: hmm06:23
hydrogenlevel1: its a mystery!06:23
level1a myyysteryyy!06:24
level1nemisis: theres probably more than one way... do you want it perminately or temper (ack I can't spell that word)06:24
jared__Oh, okay.  Haha.  My question is this -- what program is it that you get to have the little bar at the bottom of your screen that mimics the little toolbar that the MacOS has built in?06:24
level1temporary06:24
notvhow do i choose another one if it wont boot up?06:25
notvits giving me the message on install06:25
jared__I have been searching, and searching, and SEARCHING for the name, but with no luck whatsoever06:25
level1notv: you have to edit xorg.conf from the command line, unfortunately06:25
notvhow do i get to that06:25
notvwill it still install06:26
level1jared__: theres more than one, unfortunately, I can't remember the name of any of them06:26
notvbecause it seems like it freezes up06:26
jared__Awww.  :(06:26
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level1notv: this is from the livecd?06:26
Kubuntero!dock06:26
UbotuSorry, I don't know anything about dock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:26
notvi burned an ISO06:26
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Kubunterojared__: try kxdock06:26
nemisisjared__: temporary, something causes it to have a I/O error, repeatedly. i can't use Shift+sysrq either.06:26
notvmaybe it just takes a year to run the local boot scripts..?06:26
Kubuntero!find dock06:26
naknomikI am trying to add a folder on my Samba share to my amarok collection, but can't figure out how to do that.06:26
purpleposeidonCan someone tell me the IP adress of google.com? I'm having some rather odd google-related issues.06:27
UbotuFound: docker, haddock, kdocker, knetdockapp, kooldock (and 4 others)06:27
Kubuntero!info kooldock06:27
Ubotukooldock: Dock for KDE with cool visual enhancements. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 521 kB, installed size 964 kB06:27
Kubuntero!info kdocker06:27
Ubotukdocker: minimize all applications to system tray. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 100 kB, installed size 324 kB06:27
KubunteroHmm not quite that06:27
level1notv: you get a blank screen or a screen with a single cursor on startup?06:27
notvit was loading06:28
level1notv: they thought they have fixed that, but my laptop won't boot from the livecd either06:28
bigleonyeah thts a load screen06:28
naknomikTrying KDE 4 on Feisty. Plasma seems to be broken, has anybody successfully installed it yet?06:28
level1notv: and it takes forever?06:28
bigleonwhich cd level1?06:28
notvstarting kernal log, bluetooth, etc, checking battery state...06:28
level1naknomik: I didn't have any trouble06:28
notvrunning local boot scripts06:28
notvthen i have a cursor06:28
notvit appears to be frozen06:28
bigleonI'm running on a inspiron E170506:28
Kubunteronaknomik: it's just a little broken06:29
level1bigleon: the kubuntu fiesty install cd... the only way to get it to start is to install fglrx06:29
bigleonalthough i only got a 6.06 cd trying to updating to feisty has been nuts06:29
Kubunterohi bigleon :)06:29
level1bigleon: I have the same model06:29
naknomiklevel1: for me the panel is empty and I only see two blobs saying 'The object could not be loaded' or something to that effect.06:29
bigleonOh whats wrong06:29
bigleon??06:29
wordlnx_: right click desktop -> configure desktop -> background section -> advanced options-> width for icon text-> Auto  lines for icon text->106:29
bigleoni might be having same issues lmao06:29
level1naknomik: hmm... might be the newer versions... thats plasma06:29
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bigleonis your modified or stock level1?06:29
jared__So, kooldock?06:30
level1notv: okay, press alt-ctrl-f406:30
level1bigleon: its stock06:30
naknomikall I did was add backports repo and did upgrade.06:30
Kubuntero!info kxdock06:30
level1bigleon: it have a mobility radeon X140006:30
UbotuPackage kxdock does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas06:30
naknomikit pulled all the packages. but something is sure broken.06:30
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bigleoni got my states saved to my xfire page06:30
Kubunterohttp://galigio.wordpress.com/2007/05/19/how-to-add-a-cool-mac-os-x-dock-in-your-linux-two-different-solutions-for-kubuntu/06:31
bigleonstats(06:31
level1naknomik: you might have more luck compiling from source or getting a livecd... you might also try getting help on #kde4-devel or at techbase.kde.org06:31
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naknomikCan I add a folder to Amarok collection from samba?06:31
bigleoni got same one, so what do i need to do to get it to work?06:31
Kubunterojared__: ^^^06:31
level1notv: do you have a login screen or some such?06:31
notvyes06:32
level1notv: you can login as root... type "root" at the prompt and then golly, I don't know if you have the password06:32
notvubuntu@ubuntu:$06:32
level1thats a probelm06:32
level1oh, autologin, okay06:32
level1what happens when you type "sudo ls"?06:33
notvdesktop06:33
level1okay, thats good06:33
level1notv: are you on a ati card, right?06:33
level1radeon or some such?06:33
naknomikWhat does the 'Full Upgrade' button on Adept really do?06:34
notvhmmm06:34
notvi dont know the card specs, i just bought it06:34
hydrogennaknomik: upgrades anything that can be safely upgraded06:34
notvim sure its ati06:34
level1naknomik: it should get all the new upgrades for ubuntu and upgrade it06:34
hydrogenafter fetching new lists from the repo's06:34
notvati radeon06:34
level1notv: okay, try typing "sudo apt-get install fglrx"06:34
notvyes06:34
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bigleonlevel1: do i need to run like sudo apt-get install fglrx06:34
bigleonoh prolly then yes lol06:35
level1and answer yes if asks any questions06:35
notvbeep06:35
notvwhirr06:35
level1lol, thats the only way I got it working06:35
bigleondon't forget to give ur pass if it ask lmao06:35
notvcouldnt find06:35
logreevalHello, I was just curious about what the difference between the gnome and KDE difference is?06:35
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naknomiklevel1: that's what I did after adding backports (Unsupported Updates) repository. and KDE4 was pulled in.06:35
level1notv: does taht computer have internet?06:35
naknomikHow do I know if what I got was KDE4 beta 2?06:35
notvsure06:35
notvwell06:36
level1naknomik: maybe you need a few more upgrades... sometimes its hard to know06:36
notvi have a wireless network06:36
hydrogenlogreeval: mentality and look06:36
Kubunterologreeval: really want to get into that? :)06:36
notvi found a forum page06:36
bigleonyo level1 you get ur buttons to work on front of your laptop ?06:36
naknomiklevel1: and how do I get those few more upgrades?06:36
level1notv: oh, I don't know how to connect to a wireless on the commandline, I know its possible06:36
logreevalhydrogen: cool Kubuntero: maybe ;)06:36
level1hold on, let me see if I can find out06:36
notvlevell the forum says to choose an alternate install cd because the graphical install wont recognize the card06:36
Kubunterologreeval: what are you looking for?06:37
naknomikCan I add a folder on Samba share to Amarok collection?06:37
logreevalWell, i was just thinking of looking for a little bit lighter06:37
level1bigleon: I seem to remember they "just worked" but theres a way to get them working if you have toruble06:37
logreevalrunning system06:37
level1notv: that might be a good idea, but you don't have to06:37
notvwhats the easiest solution levell?06:38
bob1nzi keep getting this message when doing modprobe not sure what it means06:38
bob1nzThe program 'modprobe' can be found in the following packages:06:38
bob1nz * modutils06:38
bob1nz * module-init-tools06:38
bob1nzTry: sudo apt-get install <selected package>06:38
bob1nzbash: modprobe: command not found06:38
notvnstalling Windows XP drivers for Atheros AR5007EG wireless chipset:06:38
level1!paste | bob1nz06:38
Ubotubob1nz: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:38
bigleonKubuntero i can't seem to remeber where i remeber you from?06:38
bigleonwere you on lastnight when i was having hell?06:38
bob1nzsorry06:38
Kubunterobigleon: Konversation hates you06:38
level1bob1nz: its okay06:38
level1notv: you have an atheros wireless card?06:39
logreevalKubuntero: Would i notice a difference with a 2.0 GHz 512ram 40gig hard drive computer switching to KDE?06:39
bigleonthat it does kubuntero06:39
Kubunterologreeval: well it's kinda funny06:39
bigleoni just had a 102 sec lag spike06:39
bob1nzdoes anyone know what it means though06:39
Kubunterologreeval: I think that gnome uses less RAM on boot up but KDE uses much less RAM on actual usage06:39
bigleonwhat are you switching from longreeval06:39
bigleonkde is jsut better06:39
bigleonend of story06:39
logreevallol06:40
logreevalwell im in a biased channel ;)06:40
bigleongnome is like natures retard06:40
bigleon:P06:40
logreevali have Ubuntu regular gnome version06:40
bigleonthe lemming haha06:40
level1bigleon: some people do find kde is too slow for them, but unless you have a slow computer there is really no reason to use gnome06:40
bigleonI got 2 gb's under the hood06:40
bigleonplus 160gig's of hd space06:40
Kubunterologreeval: Here's the twisted thign about Linux06:40
hydrogengnome is just as fat as kde06:40
level1logreeval: its worth giving it a whirl, you can always uninstall it later06:41
Kubunterologreeval: You can try it ... for free ... for as long as you like06:41
KubunteroIt's Krazy06:41
bigleonRofl06:41
notvhow do i enable all the repositories with no gui?06:41
logreevalKubuntero: well im running ubuntu right now so cant i just install kubuntu from the synaptic?06:41
hydrogenand you can get a full refund at any point!06:41
Kubunterobut you actually get to decide from multiple choices which one works for you .. for free06:41
hydrogennotv: i think you can from within aptitude06:41
Kubuntero!kubuntu06:41
UbotuKubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE06:41
Daisuke_Laptopnotv: sudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list06:41
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level1notv: lol, well you have to do "editor /etc/apt/sources.list"06:41
Kubunterologreeval: just install the package kubuntu-desktop06:42
notvi picked a bad night for this06:42
Daisuke_Laptopand uncomment the ones you need06:42
bigleon8 minutes left after 4 hours of updates wooo06:42
Kubunteroto get rid of it is easy as well :-)06:42
level1notv: lol, usually, this "just works" but for some reason certian video cards really suck06:42
logreevalKubuntero: then what?06:42
Daisuke_LaptopKubuntero: make sure he uses aptitude, otherwise it's not so easy to remove.06:42
notvdo i need ndiswrapper first>?06:42
logreevalKubuntero: restart? ctrl alt backspace?06:42
notvyea damn you radeon06:42
KubunteroDaisuke_Laptop: huh? Oh to remove it06:43
bigleonndiswrapper is a nitmare notv06:43
Kubunterologreeval: Logout then on the login screen choose KDE06:43
Daisuke_Laptopno, use aptitude to install or remove06:43
level1notv: well, for an atheros card you should be a able to get it working without ndiswrapper06:43
level1am I right boys?06:43
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Daisuke_Laptopaptitude is better at handling dependencies (which is all the kubuntu-desktop is) and can remove them easily06:43
logreevalKubuntero: ok....but how big is the download of kubuntu-desktop?06:43
Daisuke_Laptopyep, atheros is pretty easy06:43
Daisuke_Laptopath006:43
naknomikIs there a way to add a folder on samba share to Amarok collection?06:44
level1Daisuke_Laptop: apparently the driver is still lrm... I tought it was free06:44
Daisuke_Laptophrmm06:44
bigleonthanks alot Kubuntero you talk about konversation hating me and it goes on a hate streak06:44
level1naknomik: have you tried it?06:44
flaccidnaknomik: it should get mounted to /media/something06:45
notvi have no idea what to do next06:45
notvi dont think im connected to the net06:45
level1notv: have you modified sources.list?06:45
Daisuke_Laptopi take it you're not on the affected machine06:45
bigleonnotv try and ping google.com to see if yo have a connection06:45
bob1nzhey sorry bwt before i pasted it here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37289/ if any one can help06:45
level1well, you have to do "iwconfig ath0" and see what it does, but you might consider dling and installing the alternate install cd.06:45
naknomikflaccid: I visited smb://host/folder in conq, how would that get mounted as /media/something?06:46
KubunteroDaisuke_Laptop: you can just remove kdelibs4c2a and it will drag the rest of KDE with it06:46
hitmanWillyheh, i wonder how much traffic google gets every day from test pings...06:46
level1bol06:46
bigleonhitmanWilly from me, a shit load06:46
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hitmanWillysame here06:46
level1bob1nz: did you do "sudo modprobe suchandsuch"?06:46
flaccidnaknomik: sorry i misread. i believe you have to mount the samba share to somewhere either /mnt or /media ie. put it in your fstab06:46
bigleoni let my computer ping it from an entire  vacation just to see how many packets i would loose over period of 2 weeks06:46
flaccid!samba | naknomik06:46
Ubotunaknomik: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT06:46
flaccidfirst link naknomik06:47
bob1nzyes i did sudo modprobe saa713406:47
hitmanWillyconsidering that's the site i would imagine most people test ping, i imagine a lot06:47
level1hitmanWilly: google does'nt pay for bandwidth, so why not?06:47
Kubuntero!language | bigleon06:47
Ubotubigleon: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.06:47
bigleonwoah did i say something?06:47
level1yeah, I didn't see him swear06:47
bigleonyup... gah06:47
bigleoni used the big 4 letter s word06:47
level1oh06:48
bigleonit's sad when i didn't even see my self06:48
notvfile name to write: /etc/apt/sources.list06:48
hitmanWillysudo? lol06:48
notverror writing , permission denied06:48
notvit wont let me save the changes06:48
bigleon"for the love of SUDO!"06:48
level1bob1nz: thats weird... modprobe should be install... why not try installing it?06:48
level1sudo get me a cup of coffee!06:48
bob1nzi tried will do it again and paste the output06:48
bigleonyo level one where did you get fglrx06:48
level1notv: when you did it, did you do it with "sudo"?06:48
notvi thought i was in autoroot06:48
level1notv: nah, try again with sudo... my mistake, sorry06:49
level1never heard of autoroot06:49
bigleonauto root sounds like a linux myth06:49
notvgot it06:49
notvyea i made it up06:49
notvwhat do i do next?06:50
level1bigleon: linux myths, lol... did you hear reiser killed his wife?06:50
level1guess thats not a myth06:50
bigleon"and today we will open the book of "autoroot" "06:50
notvdo i need drivers for the ati card and the atheros card?06:50
bigleonreiser?06:50
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Kubunterolevel1: they proved it?06:51
level1notv: well, to get online, you have to do iwconfig... if you don't have drivers for your cards, then theres no use, just get the alternate install cd, so lets assume you do06:51
bob1nzheres the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/159/06:51
level1Kubuntero: thats what i heard, maybe I'm wrong06:51
level1hey, his file system was good06:51
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jared__Okay....I got KoolDock and it's AWESOME!!!06:51
level1Kubuntero: wow, thats weird06:52
level1Kubuntero: did you try 'sudo apt-get install modprobe'?06:52
jared__But my next question is this -- how do you move it to the top of the screen?06:52
Kubunterolevel1: Eh?06:52
jared__Or can you?  is that even possible?06:52
level1oh sorry06:52
level1Kubuntero: not you, bob1nz06:52
jared__I've seen some screenshots where the dock was up top....06:52
bigleonoh god... i'm scared i just wantched linux remove everything06:52
bigleonx-server06:52
bigleoni have a feeling next time i reboot... it's not going to work06:53
level1bigleon: what did you do?06:53
bigleonapt-get -f install06:53
notvwhat if i update the network interfaces06:53
hitmanWillybigleon, did it remove it or just upgrade it06:53
bigleoni don't see it installing a new verison06:53
bigleononly removing06:53
level1bigleon: uh oh06:53
hitmanWillybigleon, ok, this is fixable, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop06:54
hitmanWillybefore you reboot06:54
level1notv: I think you want to do "sudo iwconfig essid yourrouter"06:54
kkathmanlol06:54
bigleoni have unment depdencies06:54
naknomikI have a linux machine with some files to share, what would be faster/efficient way to share those? samba or nfs?06:55
notvessid yourrouter?06:55
hitmanWillybigleon, ok, sounds like the upgrade borked06:55
kkathmannaknomik: mixed network ??06:55
bigleonhitman i'm going to cry if that happened06:55
naknomikkkathman: yes.06:55
kkathmannaknomik: and is time a factor?06:55
kkathmani.e. you need it working immediately?06:55
notvwhat is "yourrouter" supposed to be06:55
hitmanWillybigleon, ok, there may be a way, hold on...06:55
level1notv: do you know the name of your wireless router? also, is it wep protected? (ie needs a password)?06:55
notvthe model number?06:55
notvyes its wep protected06:56
notvive got the pw06:56
notvi dont know its name06:56
naknomikkkathman: I already have samba setup, but would exporting the same shares as NFS make access from linux machines faster?06:56
Kubunterobigleon: Did it just remove X ?06:56
level1notv: usually, when you connect to a wireless router, it has a name like "linksys" or "2Wire729" or something06:56
bigleonwell i ran the orginal install script again06:56
hitmanWillybigleon, apt-get install xserver-xorg06:56
kkathmannaknomik:  quite possibly yes06:56
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kkathmannaknomik:  however it might be only neglibly06:57
notvim connected to it on this computer via ethernet. can i locate the routers name somewhere/?06:57
bigleonwhat is deforma?06:57
level1notv: okay, "sudo iwconfig essid yourrouter key s:yourpassword" should be it06:57
bigleoni've seen alot of  "errors" there06:57
level1notv: that could have save us a lot of time06:57
level1notv: you have an ethernet connection?06:57
Kubunterodefoma ?06:57
bigleonsomething like that sorry it's scrolling uber quick XD06:58
notvyea but i only have the one cable06:58
level1notv: oh, bummer06:58
level1notv: well, see, I'm not sure how to make the computer connect to the router once you plug it in... you might try rebooting06:58
naknomikDoes Amarok support DAAP?06:58
Kubunteroyour font server it sounds like06:59
Kubunteronaknomik: Yes06:59
level1notv: but maybe you should just get the alternate install cd and do that06:59
naknomikKubuntero: how do I use it? I have a DAAP (firefly) running on the network.06:59
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bigleonman i love american pie 1 a good movie every time07:00
bigleonokay i'm scared i just this long list of stuff being removed07:00
level1bigleon: whats going on?07:00
hitmanWillybigleon, ok, you may need to reinstall07:00
bigleonupdates07:01
bigleonit's installing too07:01
bigleonlevel1 what is that video driver i need to install ???07:01
bigleonfglrx or w/e07:01
level1bigleon: you have my computer, right?  with an X1400?07:01
bigleonyup07:01
level1bigleon: I use vesa07:01
level1bigleon: its faster than fglrx07:01
bigleonw/e works07:01
level1whats w/e?07:02
bigleonwhat ever07:02
level1bigleon: vesa is the fallback driver... it will do all the rendering on the cpu, and the cpu on that computer is faster than the video card07:02
Daisuke_Laptoplevel1: that's awesome if you don't want any 3d.  at all07:02
level1Daisuke_Laptop: well, its not worth running compiz on an ati card07:03
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Daisuke_Laptopthis is true.07:03
Daisuke_Laptopshould be getting better soon though.07:03
level1Daisuke_Laptop: I'm all for it if you have an nvidia card, but if you have an ati card, its just not worth it07:03
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bigleonso i'll let you know when this pack stops so you can give me how too i think it's almsot done its going through things that start with "X"07:03
level1Daisuke_Laptop: also, on that laptop, fglrx could actually cause the cpu to overheat07:04
hitmanWillybigleon, after that stops, try installing kubuntu-desktop again07:04
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level1and its a much nicer cpu than graphics card07:04
Daisuke_Laptopnow this is multitasking.07:05
hitmanWillybigleon, i've got to get some sleep, work tomorrow07:05
bobthecowi've got this crazy split screen thing that happens every time my monitor suspends... anyone run into that?07:05
naknomikHow do I get Amarok to play MP3s?07:05
bobthecowhttp://img174.imageshack.us/img174/8474/dsc00123ji3.jpg07:05
level1naknomik: you have to install libxine-extracodecs I think is the package07:05
Daisuke_Laptopmunching on key lime pie, arguing the merits/perils of ati cards, and studying for a trig exam at 10:30 tomorrow morning :\07:05
bigleonhave a good night hitman07:06
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hitmanWillyheh, later than07:06
level1naknomik: if you'r using amarok, you should invest in using pgsql07:06
naknomikI already have a mysql server running on network.07:06
Daisuke_Laptoplevel1: *depending on collection size07:06
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level1naknomik: it makes amarok about 1.72 million times faster, according to benchmarks07:07
Daisuke_Laptopi would drown in update time if i relied on sqlite07:07
level1naknomik: mysql is also good07:07
Daisuke_Laptopi use mysql and it's a whole lot nicer than the default.07:07
naknomiklevel1: do I need to have a mysql/pgsql running locally on or one on my lan is ok?07:07
Daisuke_Laptopif you have a couple hundred songs, sqlite is fine07:07
level1Daisuke_Laptop: I think they should make sql the default07:07
naknomikDaisuke_Ido: I have about 500007:07
Daisuke_Laptoplevel1: i agree, but that means making mysql a default install07:07
level1naknomik: I'm not sure, actually, you might need to install it locally07:08
Daisuke_Laptopnaknomik: go mysql07:08
level1Daisuke_Laptop: maybe someone can make an autoscript07:08
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Daisuke_Laptopi'm sitting on 22k+, so sqlite is NOT an option07:08
level1Daisuke_Laptop: is mysql different that pgsql as far as amarok is concerned?07:08
\\CrAnEHi, I am trying to install build-essential-11.1 and it says i need dpkg-dev first ??? could someone tell me what that means please?07:08
Daisuke_Laptoplevel1: don't think so07:08
naknomikactually I'm thinking using a DAAP only, as all my songs on the server that already runs a DAAP server.07:09
Daisuke_Laptop\\CrAnE: why not just install build-essential?07:09
Daisuke_Laptoprather than a particular version07:09
naknomikdoes Amarok need a plugin to enable DAAP support?07:09
\\CrAnEI don't know I am new at this is that easier?07:09
Jucato\\CrAnE: run "sudo apt-get install build-essential" in Konsole. waaay easier07:09
Daisuke_Laptopif you're new, why are you building things? :)  most of what you'll ever need is in the !repositories07:09
\\CrAnEthank you so much Jucato!!07:10
Jucato!compile | \\CrAnE07:10
Ubotu\\CrAnE: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)07:10
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Jucato\\CrAnE: Kubuntu has around 20,000 packages. There's a big chance what you're trying to compile is already there07:10
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level1a lot of people what linuxes to install everything from source... these are the same people that make configure scripts that refuse to work correctly07:11
\\CrAnEYou are awesome Jucato ;)!!!!07:11
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Jucatono I'm not :)07:12
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level1why can't configure just *pretend* to work07:12
Jucatolevel1: because it's not from MS? It doesn't want to lie? :)07:12
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level1lol07:12
baudthiefanyone running compiz with an nvidia card?07:13
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baudthief*fusion07:13
level1baudthief: I have, whats the problem?07:13
bobthecowbaudthief: yep07:13
CrackityJonesBabaloha07:13
baudthiefhttp://www.horizons-edge.com.au/snapshot14.png <=- thats the problem lol07:13
level1!anyone07:14
UbotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?07:14
baudthiefthats what happens after I run compiz -- replace07:14
baudthiefusable area turns into a small square, the rest of the screen is blank07:14
level1I'm amazed you got a screenshot of that, thats incredible07:14
baudthiefhah yeah I'm surprised it even worked07:14
bobthecowthat's pretty cool...07:14
CrackityJonesBabDoes anyone/anybody know how to use the start menu?07:14
CrackityJonesBabjoke07:14
level1maybe?07:14
JucatoStart what?07:15
level1oh, you mean the taskbar07:15
Jucatohm... you're all amazed while baudthief is annoyed :)07:15
CrackityJonesBabjust injecitng humor into the situation.07:15
baudthieflol07:15
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level1baudthief: what card, what driver?07:15
Jucatobaudthief: tried asking in #ubuntu-effects ?07:15
naknomikHow do I add a DAAP support for Amarok?07:16
level1I'm not a fan of aramanth's repository... the kde support is non-exsistant07:16
Jucatonaknomik: if you don't get an answer in here, you can try #amarok07:16
level1so I don't use compiz07:16
baudthiefJucato: No reply, car is nvidia 7600GS / 256MB07:16
baudthiefdriver... well, to be honest I have no idea lol, its the latest proprietary one07:16
CrackityJonesBabi finally got beryl to work. :)07:16
baudthiefI think I used envy to install it07:16
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Jucatonaknomik: amarok seems to also have a handbook. might find something there07:17
level1baudthief: there have been some complaints about envy07:17
Jucato!envy07:17
Ubotuenvy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!07:17
level1those kinds of complaints07:17
Jucatothe basic reasoning about these 3rd-party scripts/tools is that they're 3rd party. we cannot guarantee support for them07:17
\\CrAnEone more question whats the path to my tcl library?07:18
CrackityJonesis automatix third party?07:18
level1baudthief: you might try uninstalling the drivers and then reinstalling them using the repositories07:18
baudthiefI just followed a tutorial of how to upgrade to compiz from beryl heh - they recommended using that tool to upgrade my nvidia drivers. I did, then installed compiz - wasn't impressed, so I uninstalled compiz and went back to beryl - however now beryls crashing alot, so I wanna give compiz another shot and apply some fixes heh07:18
JucatoCrackityJones: oh most definitely07:18
Jucato!automatix | CrackityJones07:18
UbotuCrackityJones: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)07:18
baudthieflevel1: will do, gotta get my laptop out in case everything breaks lol07:19
CrackityJonesokay. i won't use it anymore.07:19
\\CrAnEwhat is a tcl library?07:19
JucatoCrackityJones: use it if you want to or if it works for you. but that will basically be your responsibility. and we can't officially recommend it ;)07:19
baudthiefwhat package am I looking for in the repositories?07:19
Jucato\\CrAnE: what are you trying to compile?07:19
CrackityJonesbut the default installer and synaptic are supported, right?07:19
\\CrAnEeggdrop07:20
bob1nzcan someone tell me how to change my tuner card number its currently 0 unknown/generic and it needs to be number 3 i think07:20
JucatoCrackityJones: of course. anything that's in the official repositories are supported (to varying degrees)07:20
level1what would you need automatix for?  if you know the names of the packages you can do  all the work yourself07:20
CrackityJonesokay07:20
Jucato!info eggdrop | \\CrAnE07:20
Ubotu\\crane: eggdrop: Advanced IRC Robot. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.6.18-1 (feisty), package size 461 kB, installed size 1132 kB07:20
CrackityJonesjust used automatix for my complimetary dvd codecs.07:20
Jucato\\CrAnE: like what I said earlier, try to search in and use the package management first before you go out compiling stuff07:21
level1CrackityJones: I think the package for that is dvd-css2 or something07:21
CrackityJonesokay cool.07:21
\\CrAnEi did07:21
\\CrAnEand its telling me to do sometihng i dont understnad07:21
Jucato\\CrAnE: what?07:21
\\CrAnE./configure --with-tclinc='<full path to tcl.h>'07:22
\\CrAnE            --with-tcllib='<full path to Tcl library>'07:22
level1CrackityJones: actually, it might be libdvdread307:22
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naknomikHow do I configure extra keys on my media keyboard?07:22
Jucato\\CrAnE: you're not using the package manager. you're trying to compile07:22
Jucato!keys07:22
UbotuTrying to get your Multimedia keyboard working in KDE? No Problem take a look at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys07:22
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nalle.07:22
CrackityJonesi'll check it out. okay, say i uninstall automatix: will it also uninstall the codecs? or do they stay on my system?07:23
klobsteris there an nvidia fan control program available?07:23
\\CrAnEiam sorry jucato i am so stupid with this... where is the package manager07:23
Jucato\\CrAnE: K Menu -> System -> Adept Manager. search for eggdrop, right-click -> Request Install. click on Apply Changes, and you're done07:23
level1CrackityJones: I'm sure everything it did will still remain07:23
Jucato!software07:23
UbotuA general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents07:23
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baudthiefAm I also supposed to remove nvidia-kernel-* as well as nvidia-glx?07:24
Jucato\\CrAnE: read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware specially the part for Kubuntu (scroll down a bit)07:24
\\CrAnEk07:24
level1"Please NOTE that downloading and installing w32codecs, libdvdcss2 and other non-free codecs without paying a fee to the concerned authorities constitutes a CRIME in the United States of America" Somewhat dubious legal advice - the issue has nothing to do with fees, and isn't just limited to the USA.07:25
level1what does that mean?07:25
CrackityJoneslevel.....proprietary codecs. they're owned by companies.07:25
Jucatoit means that in some countries, it's illegal to use those stuff without permission07:25
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Jucatoand sometimes permission requires the payment of fees... sometimes it's just plain illegal07:25
level1CrackityJones: I meant the afterthought... I'm familar with the part in quotes07:26
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Daisuke_Laptopand sometimes arnieboy's just talking out of his gluteus maximus.07:26
level1where are you?07:26
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mefisto__can anyone recommend a search tool for kde that's better than the default Find Files/Folders?07:26
Jucatosomewhere you won't find :)07:26
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Jucatomefisto__: locate:/ in Konqueror?07:26
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Jucatowhich is basically a frontend to locate/slocate in the command line07:27
level1I'd pay money to the dvd consortium if I had to, I just don't understand why I have to use windows just to play dvds07:27
Jucatowhich is basically a simple search/indexing program07:27
jokijohey everyone, i JUST switched to kubuntu, never been on any linux ever, migrated from xp07:27
mefisto__Jucato: that only searches linux disks, right?07:27
Jucatomefisto__: it searches whatever's indexed by the locate db... I don't know how to configure that though :)07:28
Jucatoall I know is how to update the db: sudo updatedb07:28
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\\CrAnEok I dont have an adept-manager so I went to the add/remove thingy added something called adept07:29
\\CrAnEan when i try to open it07:29
\\CrAnEit has an error07:29
AmyRoseHow do I get OpenOffice.org to stop using that horrible bytecode font hinting, without having to recompile FreeType?07:29
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Jucato\\CrAnE: what do you mean you don't have Adept Manager?07:29
Jucatoand what's the error07:29
Jucatohi AmyRose. :)07:29
Jucato(sorry no idea about that one)07:29
AmyRosehi, Jucato07:29
level1hey AmyRose07:29
\\CrAnECould not launch menu item07:29
\\CrAnEDetails: Failed to execute child process "kdesu" (No such file or director07:29
JucatoO.o07:30
bobthecow\\CrAnE how did you manage to get rid of kdesu?07:30
bobthecowopen a terminal07:30
\\CrAnEi have no idea what kdesu is?07:30
Jucato\\CrAnE: ok I'll try to make this simple: in Konsole, type "sudo apt-get install eggdrop"07:30
bobthecowsudo apt-get install kdesu07:30
Jucatobobthecow: I don't think kdesu is a separate package07:31
Jucatoit's part of kdelibs or kdebase last I checked)07:31
\\CrAnElol07:31
Kubunterojokijo: Wlecome07:31
Jucatoyep, kdebase-bin07:31
bobthecow yeah07:31
bobthecowthat one.07:31
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KubunteroAmyRose: play any games?07:32
Daisuke_Laptopo-ho-ho i am sooo screwed :\07:32
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Jucatothanks :)07:32
geniinp07:32
\\CrAnEok i give up07:32
KubunteroDaisuke_Laptop: family chan! we dont want to hear about it!07:32
bobthecowdon't give up...07:32
Jucatooh crap... coffee at 32.3 C doesn't sound nice...07:32
\\CrAnEReading package lists... Done07:32
\\CrAnEBuilding dependency tree... Done07:32
\\CrAnEE: Couldn't find package eggdrop07:32
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Kubuntero!info eggdrop07:32
Ubotueggdrop: Advanced IRC Robot. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.6.18-1 (feisty), package size 461 kB, installed size 1132 kB07:32
level1hey genii... you were one of the first people to help me with a linux problem... I was premiersullivan back then07:32
Kubuntero\\CrAnE: it's in universe :)07:33
AmyRosedarn it, the OpenOffice.org Font Guide recommends that crappy bytecode interpreter...07:33
level1genii: I still can't get that tvtuner to work07:33
Jucatosomeone help \\CrAnE for a while.. need to be gone...07:33
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Jucato!openoffice07:33
Ubotua free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org07:33
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bobthecowit's in universe, but he's got no graphical installer..07:33
JucatoAmyRose: there's a channel there ^^^^07:33
geniilevel1: Ah, I think that was the USB TV Wonder yes?07:33
\\CrAnEyou all are a whole lot nicer then #linux on undernet07:33
level1genii: USB2... I amazed you remember07:33
\\CrAnEi cant beleive you can put up with me07:33
KubunteroAmyRose: Play Unreal?07:33
\\CrAnEhaha07:33
Kubuntero\\CrAnE: We try to be nicer than * :)07:33
Jucato\\CrAnE: you're just lucky I don't feel hungry yet :)07:33
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\\CrAnEoh an universe??07:34
\\CrAnEwhat??07:34
geniilevel1: Hopefully soon some drivers will be around07:34
level1lol, amyrose really doesn't like you, Kubuntero07:34
bobthecowkk. \\CrAnE. this is going to be fun.07:34
Kubunterolevel1: I guessed :)07:35
Kubuntero!repos | \\CrAnE07:35
Ubotu\\CrAnE: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu07:35
\\CrAnEi can make it a little easier on you bobthecow07:35
level1genii: my mom wants me to set up a media center for her07:35
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cranehmm07:35
cranen/m someone owns this name07:35
bobthecowcrane thx07:35
geniiunderdog5004: Heys I'm alive LOL07:35
craneI could do more on linux when i was 1107:36
crane10 years later i am dumb now lol07:36
bobthecowcrane: you got a konsole open?07:36
craneyes07:36
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BaudXPargh my installation broke after reinstalling the nvidia drivers :(07:37
bobthecowcrane: sudo apt-get install kdebase-bin07:37
BaudXPpc wont start anymore, I get "Failed to load the nvidia kernel module"07:37
level1BaudXP: a likely story07:37
craneok done07:37
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BaudXPwell, by comparison, this is far worse than not having pretty beryk effects lol07:38
BaudXPwhat couldve went wrong? I installed from the repo like suggested07:38
level1BaudXP: you kinda have two choices, switch to a different driver long enough to fix nvidia in the gui, or try to fix nvidia in the command line07:38
bobthecowcrane: sudo apt-get install kdebase-bin07:38
level1or give up on nvidia07:38
craneok done07:38
BaudXPcommand line is good07:38
craneya07:38
bobthecowcrane: sudo apt-get install synaptic07:39
bobthecowfor good measure.07:39
BaudXPSorta spilt coke on my laptop kb, so I dont know how long it's gonna stay alive07:39
craneok done07:39
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level1BaudXP: hmm... usually, I just try uninstalling and reinstall nvidia in different ways until I get it working... my expertise isn't actually that greate07:39
Kubunterobobthecow: What?07:39
kdehlI have a problem when trying to install scim-chinese, I have no idea what's wrong.Sorry for the strange language, but I think you get the point: http://pastebin.ca/69518307:39
level1BaudXP: you installed from the repos right?07:39
Kubunterocrane: press alt+space07:39
cranesynaptic is already the newest version.07:40
crane0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 36 not upgraded.07:40
level1BaudXP: you might try installing using nvidia's installer07:40
kdehlI can start acpid manually without any error messages.07:40
level1BaudXP: whats your card agoin?07:40
BaudXPlevel1: yes, from teh repos - used synaptic to remove then reinstall07:40
BaudXP7600GS/256mb07:40
bobthecowKubentero: what?07:40
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nemisis!docks07:41
UbotuSorry, I don't know anything about docks - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:41
Kubunterook07:41
KubunteroI'm out07:41
level1BaudXP: yeah, one option is to download an install the driver installer from the nvidia website... this is not the "recomended" way, but for some people its the only way that works07:41
cranenow what07:41
BaudXPdoh07:41
bobthecowcrane: what was it you were trying to install initially?07:42
toogodoogrrrrr...i just d/l kubuntu and want to install firefox but its a .gz file and i dont know how to get to that filetype in linux...whats the command to unpack a .gz file tkz07:42
craneeggdrop07:42
Kubunterobobthecow: never mind. help him the way you know how07:42
level1BaudXP: actually, its late here and I have to go to bed in a few minutes, so maybe you can find someone else to help you or try again at a different time07:42
Kubunterotoogodoo: Ummm just install it in the package manager07:42
BaudXP:(07:42
BaudXPi've got no desktop machine to use lol07:42
nemisistoogodoo: try sudo 'aptitude firefox'07:42
nemisistoogodoo: try sudo 'aptitude install firefox'07:42
level1BaudXP: what are you using now?07:42
elzbalI just got around to setting up compiz-fusion on my Kubuntu. A lot of stuff works, but I can't get Cube or any of the other desktop pagers to come up. Any ideas? Anyone seen this?07:43
BaudXPa windows laptop with a sticky keyboard07:43
Kubuntero!install | toogodoo07:43
Ubotutoogodoo: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate07:43
KubunteroOh wait07:43
BaudXPno matter man, i'll keep poking until I need to reinstall lol07:43
Kubunterotoogodoo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware07:43
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cranewhat is tcl??07:46
crane!g tcl07:46
UbotuSorry, I don't know anything about g tcl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:46
level1BaudXP: as I said, why don't I get you a minimum use driver so that you can get back to the gui, and then you can find more support or at least put this off until later07:47
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level1BaudXP: vesa will allow you to do everything except run beryl or play videos, and it might be a bit slower, but its usuable07:47
DaSkreech!info tcl07:47
UbotuPackage tcl does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas07:47
DaSkreechcrane: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tcl07:48
DaSkreechnight bigleon07:48
cranecool my adept manager is working now07:48
cranewhat is it?07:48
bigleonwhat now07:48
bigleon??07:48
bigleoni'm still here07:49
DaSkreechcrane: Language07:49
DaSkreechbigleon: I'm going to bed07:49
bigleonoh07:49
DaSkreechcrane: ok adept is open ?07:49
BaudXPlevel1: ok how do I get vesa going again?07:49
bigleonI drank a gallon of MD today07:49
DaSkreech!vesa07:49
Ubotuvesa is the default video driver if X can't find a better one. Also see !x07:49
BaudXPat this point anything is beter than nothing07:49
bigleoni'm not sleeping anytime soon07:49
level1BaudXP: well, you do "sudo editor /etc/X11/xorg.conf"07:49
bobthecowcrane: still around?07:49
bigleonis this bad: klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_http'.07:49
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BaudXPlevel1: replace glx with vesa?07:50
BaudXP(in xorg)07:50
level1BaudXP: then, you find a line that says something like:     Driver         "nvidia"07:50
bobthecowcrane: in adept manager, Adept -> Manage Repositories07:50
level1BaudXP: under Section "Driver"07:50
cranek07:50
BaudXPgot it!07:51
bobthecowKubuntu Software tab07:51
BaudXPback to my desktop again heh07:51
BaudXPthanks07:51
level1BaudXP: cool, good luck07:51
bobthecowcrane: check the first 4 boxes07:51
BaudXPthanks, will need :P07:51
craneok i got to manage repositories07:52
craneyou want me to click on kubuntu software tab?07:52
bobthecowcrane: "kubuntu software" tab07:53
cranecause i dont see one07:53
level1BaudXP: if you remember what you did you can always get the desktop working again... its like a magic charm, lol07:53
bobthecowcrane: you're in adept?07:53
craneyes07:53
mefisto__Jucato: thanks for the konqueror locate: tip. It's configured in /etc/updatedb.conf, by the way, then run updatedb to create the index07:53
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bobthecowcrane: what's the first tab called?07:55
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BaudXPlevel1: haha got it!07:55
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BaudXPlinux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-16-generic was missing07:55
pillowpantshow do i install my video drivers?07:55
pillowpantswhats the wiki page?07:55
pillowpantsi had it yesterday07:55
cranetype: deb07:55
cranethen url07:55
cranecdrom07:55
cranean a bunch of crap07:56
craneis that what your talking about?07:56
BaudXPDOH - well upgrading the nvidia drivers did not solve the compiz issue lol07:56
bobthecownot really. you running feisty?07:56
craneumm i dont know07:56
bobthecowalright. i know where you're at.07:57
pillowpants!nvidia07:57
UbotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:57
bobthecowthe last col... called "sections" ?07:57
craneno components07:57
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pillowpants!resolution07:58
UbotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:58
bobthecowwhat does it say in that col?07:58
cranetype: url: distribution: components07:58
cranethose are the top thingys07:58
bobthecowawesome.07:58
BaudXPahh forget it, i'm getting rid of compiz and going back to beryl :(07:58
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bobthecowclick on the first one that says "deb" under type.07:58
bobthecowwe don't care about "deb-src" if you've got any of those.07:59
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bobthecowwe're going to chane the components.07:59
cranepl07:59
craneok07:59
bobthecowit prob'ly says "main restricted" ?07:59
bobthecowwe want it to say "main restricted universe multiverse"07:59
cranecorrect07:59
jokijowow this kubuntu this is way different than anything i ever seen08:00
craneok how do we make it say that?08:00
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bobthecowwhen you click on the enrty, is there a set of boxes at the bottm of the window?08:00
cranereset apply close08:01
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bobthecowhmmm. you've got a different version of the repo editor than i do :S08:01
bobthecowthere's going to be some way of editing the entry...08:01
bobthecowi couldn't tell you exactly what without seeing your screen.08:02
craneI can add Repository08:02
cranecant edit components08:02
bobthecownah. we want to edit the existing one.08:02
bigleonumm08:02
cranebut i can edit the deb08:02
cranepart08:02
bigleoni think i brokke my comp again08:02
cranebut it wont let me edit the others08:02
bobthecowhmmm.08:02
bobthecowlets do it in synaptic.08:02
bobthecowexit adept08:03
bigleonlevel1 are you still here08:03
cranek08:03
bobthecowrun synaptic.08:03
level1bigleon: maybe08:03
craneany specific way to run that?08:03
bigleonokay whats that thing i need for my video drivers08:03
bigleonwhen i update08:03
bobthecowsudo synaptic08:03
level1bigleon: what do you mean?08:03
bigleonmy vidoe card08:03
bigleonfor feisty08:03
level1bigleon: you mean, what do you have to install?08:03
level1bigleon: what card do you have agoin?  is it the X1400?08:04
craneok iam in08:04
bigleonyeah08:04
bobthecowSettings > Repositories08:04
bobthecowshould be a similar looking window08:04
craneit brings up software preferences08:05
level1bigleon: well, you install xorg-driver-fglrx08:05
cranewhen i click that08:05
bigleoncan i check if i have it?08:05
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bobthecowshouldn't.08:05
bobthecowgive it another go?08:06
cranebrings up same window08:06
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bobthecowsame like software preferences, or same like adept?08:06
level1bigleon: if you already have fglrx install, it "won't go"... apt will just not install anything08:07
cranesame software preferences08:07
level1so you'll be okay08:07
bobthecowgrrr.08:07
cranebut there is a tab for internet updates08:07
bobthecowlets do this the terminal way.08:07
cranean authenications08:07
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bobthecowno. that's not going to do it.08:07
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craneok08:07
bobthecowpull up konsole.08:07
craneok08:08
bobthecowsudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list08:08
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bobthecowright.08:08
cranepl08:08
bobthecowwhatever :)08:08
craneok08:08
bobthecowscroll down til you find something like "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty main restricted"08:09
bobthecowgo to the end of the line and add08:09
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bobthecowuniverse multiverse08:09
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=== xp_killer hi qll
cranedeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted08:11
cranedeb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted08:11
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cranewhich one?08:11
bobthecowthe deb one08:11
bobthecownot deb-src08:11
bobthecowso it should say "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-updates main restricted universe multiverse"08:12
bobthecownow08:12
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sunilonlnhey all, i installed kde4 b2 on feisty using the instructions on the website -- all goes well, but the taskbar just shows "this object could not be created" twice. any hints to get past that?08:12
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bobthecowcrane: with me?08:13
craneyah08:14
craneI think i messed up08:14
cranegrrrrrrrr08:14
bobthecowwhat's up?08:14
cranedoes it autosave?08:14
craneor do u have to save it?08:14
bobthecowno. it asks if you want to save.08:15
bobthecowand i lied up there ^^08:15
bobthecowit shouldn't say "feisty-updates" should just say "feisty"08:15
cranethats not good cause there is nothin on my screen that says feisty08:15
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bobthecowoh. you're running dapper.08:16
bobthecowmy bad.08:16
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bobthecowignore the feisty stuff.08:16
bobthecow:P08:16
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craneam i suppose to erase the main restricted part?08:16
cranean replace with universe multiverse08:16
bobthecowno. you want it to say main restricted universe multiverse08:16
bobthecowall four.08:16
craneoh ok08:17
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craneok done'08:17
crane'all four08:17
bobthecownow look for a line that says something about dapper-backports08:17
bobthecowmight not be there, but if it is we need to add universe and multiverse to that one.08:18
crane## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports'08:18
crane?08:18
bobthecowright. do the two lines under that have #'s in front of them?08:19
craneyes08:19
bobthecowso "# deb http://archive..."08:19
crane## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports'08:20
crane## repository.08:20
crane## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as08:20
bobthecowwe're looking for the two that have deb08:20
bobthecowand deb-src08:20
bobthecowunder all those with ##08:20
craneok found them08:20
bobthecowdo they have #'s?08:20
crane# deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe08:20
crane# deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe08:20
cranethats them08:20
bobthecowok. no worries then.08:21
bobthecowjust gotta save and exit.08:21
cranek08:21
bobthecowso CTRL+O to save08:21
bobthecowCTRL+X to exit08:21
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craneok08:22
cranedone08:22
bobthecowsudo apt-get update08:22
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craneok08:23
bobthecowthat'll update your package list08:23
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bobthecownow you should be able to install eggdrop08:23
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bobthecowsudo apt-get install eggdrop08:23
cranecool thank you08:23
bobthecowwhat we just did (the long way) was enable some extra repositories08:24
bobthecow!repos08:24
UbotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu08:24
craneE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)08:24
craneE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?08:24
craneit didnt work08:24
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sheldoncis adept still maintained?08:24
bobthecowis adept or synaptic open?08:24
craneoh yah08:24
cranesynaptic was08:24
bobthecowthat'll do it :)08:24
cranewow08:25
cranei think its working08:25
cranek it did sometihng but i dont know how to use it??08:25
cranei know the eggdrop command stuff when uget it open online08:25
cranean stuff08:26
bobthecowi don't know either :)08:26
cranewhere would it have installed to?08:27
bobthecowprob'ly /usr/bin/eggdrop08:27
ubunturoscrane: /usr/bin - likely08:27
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craneI think I actually got further on my own earlier and I am still having the same problem here...08:29
cranewhen I try to configure it....08:29
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craneTcl cannot be found on this system.08:30
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craneEggdrop requires Tcl to compile. If you already have Tcl installed on08:30
crane  this system, and I just wasn't looking in the right place for it, re-run08:30
crane  ./configure using the --with-tcllib='/path/to/libtcl.so' and08:30
crane  --with-tclinc='/path/to/tcl.h' options.08:30
bobthecowshouldn't need to compile it anymore.08:30
bobthecowif the install was successful08:30
craneyou have to run the configue file to setup the bot08:31
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craneI will make sure08:32
craneI am erasing everything08:32
craneredoing08:32
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cranethat is weird08:33
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cranecause it says its installed but i cant find it08:34
bobthecowsudo updatedb08:34
bobthecowthen wait about a week08:34
bobthecowthen "locate eggdrop"08:34
bigleon1oi guys how is everyone leon bugged his laptop again getting error "bcm43xx: Error: MIcrocode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not avalible or load failed08:34
cranewhats that do?08:35
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bobthecowit's a fast way to find files.08:35
bobthecowyou don't actually have to wait a week in between08:35
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bobthecowbut the updatedb thing updates the list of files, bascally08:35
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baudthiefAny idea what causes "false starts" in kubuntu? ie: when you try and run an app, it looks like it's going to launch... but doesnt08:36
craneph08:36
craneoh08:36
cranei think i found it08:36
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craneits in root\eggdrop08:36
craneand u still have to configure it08:36
craneand it still gives that error08:36
bobthecowthat's a strange spot to put it.08:36
cranetcl08:36
Yz85RacerHey, how do you get mp3 support for Amarok?08:36
Yz85RacerIt comes up with the message, then freezes :(08:37
cranewhy would it put it there automatically?08:37
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bobthecowi dunno.08:38
bigleon1oi guys how is everyone leon bugged his laptop again getting error "bcm43xx: Error: MIcrocode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not avalible or load failed08:38
bigleon1my gui won't even start08:38
Yz85RacerHey, how do you get mp3 support for Amarok?08:38
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bobthecowYz85Racer: something like libxine-extracodecs08:40
Yz85Racermmkay08:41
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Yz85Racerill try it08:41
cranewell anyways thank you sooo much for your help!!!08:41
bobthecowcrane: you sure root\eggdrop is the one apt installed?08:41
craneI am going to bed I will figure the rest of this out later08:41
craneno i am not sure08:41
bobthecow:)08:41
bobthecowwell good luck/08:42
bobthecowi installed eggdrop on mine, and it seems to work, FWIW08:42
bobthecowexcept mine's at /usr/bin/eggdrop08:42
cranewhere did it install to?08:42
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cranehow did u excute the file bob?08:43
cranewhat command08:43
craneexecute08:43
cranelah08:43
craneblah08:43
bobthecowmeh. i understood.08:43
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bobthecowshould work to type "/usr/bin/eggdrop" then your config file.08:44
bobthecowyou got one of those yet?08:44
craneshould i do that from the root su /??08:44
bobthecowshould be able to do that as you.08:44
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bobthecowwhat's it do when you run /usr/bin/eggdrop08:45
bobthecow?08:45
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craneit says config file not loaded08:46
bobthecowoh. yeah. you just need to make a config file.08:47
cranehow?08:47
bobthecowthere's prob'ly a sample at "/usr/share/doc/eggdrop-data/examples/eggdrop.conf.gz"08:47
cranek08:47
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bobthecowi don't really know how to use eggdrop08:47
craneok08:47
bobthecowthe guys over in #egghelp would be more help08:48
cranewell thank you sooo much anyways you have been great!!08:48
bobthecownp. sorry it took so long.08:48
bobthecowyou're almost there though :)08:49
crane:)08:49
bigleon1Hey question, I'm trying to get my 7.04 and according to computer everything sucesfully installed except some driver for my wireless, yet my GUI won't load08:49
craneya08:49
bigleon1!version08:50
UbotuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell08:50
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bobthecowcrane: past my bedtime now. have fun :)08:52
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danny500Hi. I need help really bad09:07
flaccid!ask09:07
UbotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)09:07
danny500ok lol09:07
danny500do you know what WPE is?09:07
flaccidnope09:07
flaccidin what context09:08
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danny500Winsoc Packet Editor09:08
flaccidok09:08
danny500is there something like that for Ubuntu?09:08
flaccidno linux is not windows, it does not have winsoc09:08
flaccidwhat are you trying to achieve? you need socks/proxy ?09:09
danny500lol I know that but is there a similar app09:09
flaccidno.09:09
danny500WPE Pro is a packet editor. PermEdit grants system access to any running process. Tsearch is a cheat tool designed to search for parameters in memory.09:09
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flaccidoh thats a sniffer09:10
danny500It lets you view all running process's and edit them09:10
flaccidum yeah there lots of that in linux, but this is a kubuntu help channel..09:10
danny500is there anything like that for linux?09:10
flacciddanny500: this is the wrong channel to ask09:10
danny500kubuntu has the same things as Ubuntu lol09:10
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danny500ok does Kubuntu have anything like that?09:10
flaccidno09:10
danny500does anything linux have an app like that?09:11
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danny500thanks for the help09:11
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danny500actually is there a way to edit a currently running Java program in linux?09:12
flacciddanny500: stop.09:12
danny500oh lol Sup jucato09:12
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danny500flaccid, I'm just asking a question.09:12
Jucatohi danny50009:12
Jucatothe purpose of the app you are looking for is a bit... um... let's just say  "questionable"09:13
flaccidyou have asked the same question in different ways many times. im loosing patience09:13
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flaccidwe don't help people do security related bad practices here09:13
Jucatodanny500: we have packet sniffers in the repositories. but not editors.09:14
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Jucatobut like what flaccid mentioned, the purpose of that WPE is really questionable, and I don't think it's appropriate in here09:15
kirk__hey09:15
kirk__i just installed kubuntu, ive never been on a linux machine before09:15
kirk__so i admit im a newbie to this09:15
kirk__got a rar file, how do i extra it09:15
flaccid!rar09:16
Uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free09:16
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kirk__!info unrar-free09:16
Jucato!unrar09:16
Ubotuunrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB09:16
Uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free09:16
kirk__!unrar09:16
Jucatohm... I'd stick with the unrar package for better compatibility... but they are basically the same09:17
Jucatotwo packages to extract RAR's: unrar and unrar-free09:17
kirk__i tried to download it through the adept manager09:17
kirk__didnt seem to work09:17
flaccidwhy is that09:17
Jucato!doesntwork09:18
UbotuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.09:18
kirk__i installed but09:18
kirk__but dont know where to or how to use it09:18
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flaccidunrar filename09:18
flaccidiirc09:18
Jucatowhich did you install?09:18
Jucatounrar x filename.rar09:19
kirk__unrar-free from, the adept manager09:19
Jucatokirk__: try the plain "unrar" then09:19
Jucatoit might be a newer RAR version so unrar-free can't handle it09:19
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flaccidwith unrar-free, command is unrar-free -x filename09:20
kirk__command?09:20
kirk__im brand new to this, what happened to right click extra to?09:20
kirk__i got it with one from adept09:21
flaccidi don't think there is a gui for it kirk__ . run the command from konsole09:22
Jucatoflaccid: gui for what?09:22
Jucatolet him install unrar first :)09:22
kirk__got that jucato09:22
kirk__extracted it through the program09:22
flaccidfor er unrar09:22
Jucatothen he can right-click it from Konqueror through Ark09:22
kirk__now theres an .rpm file09:22
kirk__thats a new one09:22
flaccidcan extract by right click09:22
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Jucatokirk__: er.. what are you trying to do/install by the way?09:23
kirk__limewire09:23
Jucato!limewire09:23
Ubotulimewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.09:23
flaccidjust install frostwire09:24
kirk__!java09:24
UbotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.09:24
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kirk__!frostwire09:24
Ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire09:24
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kirk__this is pretty neat09:27
pillowpants_does anyone here use frostwire?09:27
kirk__a hell of a change, ive been on windows my entire life09:27
pillowpants_i hate limeware09:27
pillowpants_its like unsecure spyware infestation central09:27
kirk__im download frostwire right now09:27
pillowpants_tell me how it goes09:28
kirk__ive used it before on windows, it seemed exactly like limewire09:28
flaccidyeah frostwire is open source not commercial and there is no spyware on linux09:28
pillowpants_yeah09:29
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pillowpants_has anyone here successfully gotten flash to work for firefox on an amd64 system?09:29
Jucato!flash6409:29
UbotuYou can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava09:29
kirk__!kubuntu09:30
UbotuKubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE09:30
kirk__!ark09:30
UbotuSorry, I don't know anything about ark - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:30
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jussi01!info ark | kirk__09:30
Ubotukirk__: ark: graphical archiving tool for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 292 kB, installed size 1016 kB09:31
kirk__!info ark09:31
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kirk__do u people like kubuntu better than windows?09:32
pillowpants_most definately09:32
kirk__im pretty lost right now, never been on any linux machine09:33
pillowpants_kirk__: once you have everything set up, its excellent09:33
kirk__i got stoned and switched earlier09:33
kirk__out of no where09:33
kirk__lol09:33
pillowpants_you might more luck with other distros09:33
pillowpants_sabayon is cool too09:33
kirk__what about redhat09:33
kirk__or suse09:34
kirk__they seem to be really popular09:34
pillowpants_redhat costs09:34
pillowpants_suse is lame, in my opinion09:34
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Jucatoplease take the distro rating in #kubuntu-offtopic :)09:34
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kirk__how do u install programs on here09:40
flaccid!adept09:41
Ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto09:41
Jucatofrom Add/Remove Programs or Adept Manager09:41
Jucato!software09:41
UbotuA general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents09:41
Jucatothat too09:41
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waylandbill_!apt09:42
UbotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)09:42
Miscellaneous!dpkg09:42
Ubotudpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.09:42
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waylandbill_ha. four different people with four different answers. All correct. :)09:43
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Jucato1 problem, 4 different ways of solving, all correct. Linux09:44
flaccidyeah but only 1 is in the GUI layer09:44
hangthedj!synaptic09:45
Ubotusynaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto09:45
waylandbill_fortunately, the gui isn't necessary.09:46
kirk__!install software09:47
kirk__!install09:47
UbotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate09:47
kirk__!software09:48
UbotuA general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents09:48
hangthedjkirk__, there is also kinstall kpackage gdebi09:48
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kirk__whats the easiest09:48
waylandbill_adept is the place you'd probably want to start09:48
flaccidthe easiest is what the user thinks is the easiest09:48
flaccidadept is the official one and probably the easiest09:48
Jucatokirk__: read through that Software Management Link and take note of the Kubuntu specific section. then you decide09:49
kirk__theres 2 tag.rz files and one debian-binary09:49
kirk__this is for frostwire09:49
Jucatoof course Adept would be the most newbie/GUI friendly09:49
Jucato(actually Synaptic would be. but...)09:49
kirk__tar,gz*09:49
flaccidplease read the links so you don't have to ask again09:49
waylandbill_doung forget that there's source installations when you get more experienced as well. :)09:49
flaccidsuprisingly the links contain the answers to your questions09:50
waylandbill_!frostwire09:50
Ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire09:50
waylandbill_that link tells the exact steps for frostwire from start to finish.09:50
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waylandbill_or if you need to ask again, you can msg ubotu directly and get the answer privately.09:51
flacciddo a /query ubotu and ask him whatever you need09:51
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Jucatoin programming?09:53
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Jucatosvg graphics09:53
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Jucatomostly to be used for the other apps like writer or impress09:53
kirk__is  there a typical folder that you install progs to, like c:\program files for windows...09:54
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jussi01Jucato: and what can you do in it that you cant do in writer with a drawing toolbar?09:54
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jussi01hehe09:55
flaccidyeah in programming09:55
Jucato!fhs | kirk__09:55
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Ubotukirk__: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux09:55
jussi01kirk__: what exactly are you trying to do?09:55
flaccidim a programmer..09:55
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Jucatoflaccid: nice. one of these days/weeks/months I'll have to ask you about it09:55
flaccidwhat lang/implementation09:56
Jucatobut not today... :)09:56
JucatoC++09:56
level1hi, I'm using raid5 on my computer and I suspect that one of my disks might have failed... how can I be sure?09:56
flaccidah yeah ok09:56
Jucatoor at least the theory behind it all09:56
Jucatotheory and practical use :)09:56
level1theres a program running called md2_raid509:56
flaccidnp09:56
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waylandbill_recursion in programming is very handy once you understand when and how to implement it.09:56
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Jucatowaylandbill_: the 2nd part of your sentence is why I hate recursion :)09:57
level1there are certian problems that can be done with iteration, but its just much saner to do it in recursion09:57
level1anyways, how can I figure out the status of my raid setup?09:58
waylandbill_Jucato: want a real world test? recurse directories and print out their entries. That is a nice fundamental recursion.09:58
kirk__wow this is complicated09:58
flaccidJucato: http://sukka.jct.ac.il/~danzig/cpp/recursion.html thats a good enough explanation09:58
flaccidthats traversal09:59
flaccid:)09:59
waylandbill_Jucato: I did just that in the little snippet of code I wrote for the kubuntu distro updater.09:59
Jucatokirk__: not really. the whole filesystem is basically divided into directories according to purpose instead of by program name09:59
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Jucatokirk__: all executable files would be in in a bin/ directory (like /usr/bin/), config files would be in /etc, so on09:59
Jucatowaylandbill_: bleh :P09:59
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Jucatoflaccid, waylandbill_: thanks. I'll look into this :)10:00
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flaccidyeah thats a traversal example. recursion calls itself10:00
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flaccidanyway10:00
flaccidim off to the pub10:00
Jucatobecause I can't seem to appreciate using recursion just to multiply by the power of n :)10:00
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flaccidi'll show you a better example next time then10:01
flaccidi gtg. cya guys10:01
Jucatobye and tkirk__: this is where package management comes in and makes it easy for you. they make sure that all the files are put in the proper places10:01
Jucatobah! stupid insert10:01
Jucatokirk__: this is where package management comes in and makes it easy for you. they make sure that all the files are put in the proper places so that you don't have to go and dig for them.10:01
waylandbill_um. if you mean directory entries is traversing, actually my directory recursing code did call itself... once for each subdirectory it ran into.10:02
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Jucatowaylandbill_: Lure told me about that particular use of recursion. but didn't really explain how.10:02
kirk__im sure i'll catch on, thanks for all the help10:02
kirk__i've been on window my entire life and now switch to this10:02
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Jucatoit takes time to get used to something new. just keep an open mind and remember that something new is always hard the first time around10:03
JucatoI bet if you remembered the first time you used windows, you'd remember that it was hard to get used to it too10:03
kirk__i do remember it actually10:03
waylandbill_the recursion happens everytime you hit a subdirectory. You call the function again and eventually when there are no more subdirectories, you come back out a step. wash, rinse, repeat. :)10:04
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Jucatohehe that I can imagine I guess :)10:05
Jucatostorage class specifiers...10:06
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kirk__hmm now its installed but wont open10:06
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waylandbill_kirk__: frostwire? you need java installed too.10:07
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Jucatosun java, that is10:08
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kirk__theres a lot of sun javas that come up on the adept10:09
waylandbill_Jucato: flaccid is right about the entries themselves, you traverse those. It was easy in adept with the Qt class that fills a string list with them though. ;-)10:09
Jucatokirk__: sun-java6-bin10:10
waylandbill_sun-java6-bin10:10
Jucatowaylandbill_: bah! don't get me started with Qt yet :P10:10
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kirk__you people are awesome, thanks10:10
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lnx_someone know how i can add Gnome's panel weather tool to my panel ?10:15
Jucatolnx_: why not use KDE's weather applet instead?10:15
Jucatobecause you can't use GNOME panel applets in the KDE panel, and vice versa10:16
Jucato!info kweather | lnx_10:16
Ubotulnx_: kweather: weather display applet for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1221 kB, installed size 2296 kB10:16
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lnx_Jucato , kde weather doesnt have my city or area10:17
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Jucatoyou can add them if you know the airport code10:18
lnx_Jucato , may be xfce4 weather tool can be added to kde panel ?10:18
Jucatono10:18
Jucatolnx_: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=7360.010:19
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hangthedjon kubuntu what is the c library to change text color on console?10:25
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josefhello10:34
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lnx_Jucato , there are only codes near airport , and its far for me i can get a city code ?10:35
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Yz85Racerhey10:36
Yz85Racerwhat is a X-Window system installed10:36
Yz85Racerits for a game i play10:36
Jucatolnx_: as far as I know, these wheather applets take their data from airports... but if your city has that code too, then maybe yes10:36
Jucatohuh?10:37
Yz85Racerwell10:37
Yz85Racerit said in the req. for my game10:37
Jucato!x10:37
UbotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto10:37
Yz85Racerthat i need a X-Window system installed10:37
Yz85Racerso type sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart10:37
Yz85Racerin a k\console?10:37
Jucatoit's the part of the operating system that lets you have graphics and windows10:37
SlimeyPeteYz85Racer: you already have it installed. It's what provides the graphics on your screen.10:38
Jucatoit's already running10:38
Yz85Racerohhhh ok...10:38
SlimeyPeteYz85Racer: you don't need to do anything10:38
Yz85Racerso i run the binary10:38
Yz85Racerand it says10:38
Yz85Racer"open with"10:38
Yz85Racerwhat do I open it with10:38
Yz85Racer] ?10:38
Jucatowhat is it?10:38
Yz85RacerExtract the downloaded file and start the binary "Tibia" in the new folder "Tibia"10:38
Jucatowhat game is it?10:38
Yz85RacerTibia10:39
Jucatoin Konsole, go to the Tibia folder, make sure the Tibia file is there, then type: ./Tibia (or whatever name the executable file has)10:40
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Yz85Racerohk10:40
Yz85Racerhow mdo i go to the tibia folder in c10:40
Yz85Racerkonsole10:40
Yz85Racerim used to typing cd C:\10:41
Yz85Raceretc10:41
Yz85Raceron windows10:41
Jucatowhere did you extract it to?10:41
Yz85Racerdesktop10:42
Yz85Racerin a folder called Tibia10:42
Yz85Racer:P10:42
Yz85Racerahhh10:42
Yz85Racer//home/kyle/Desktop/Tibia/Tibia10:42
Jucatocd ~/Desktop/Tibia/10:42
Jucato~ is a shorcut for /home/username10:42
Yz85Racerbash: /home/kyle/Desktop/Tibia/Tibia: is a directory10:43
Yz85Racerkyle@kyle-desktop:~$10:43
Yz85Racer...?10:43
Jucatodidn't I say "cd"?10:43
Yz85Racerahh10:43
Jucatocd ~/Desktop/Tibia/Tibia (forgot the other Tibia)10:43
Yz85Racerohk10:44
Yz85Racernow how do i run the executable?10:44
Jucato./Tibia10:44
Jucatoif that's the name of the program/filename10:44
Yz85RacerYes10:44
Yz85Racerbut it says10:44
Yz85Racerbash: ./Tibia: No such file or directory10:45
Jucatoare you sure that the Tibia file is there? or is there another directory you need to go into?10:45
Yz85Raceri go to10:45
Yz85Racer//home/kyle/Desktop/Tibia/Tibia10:45
Yz85Racerthen type10:45
Yz85Racer./Tibia10:45
Yz85Racerand the executable is called Tibia10:46
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Jucatohm...10:46
Jucatocan you type "ls" (like dir in Windows) and check? the executable files are colored green10:46
Yz85Raceryes10:47
Yz85RacerTibia is green10:47
lnx_there isnt other weather tools for kde weather displaying ?10:47
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Yz85RacerTibia10:47
Yz85Racerkyle@kyle-desktop:~/Desktop/Tibia/Tibia$10:47
Jucatoweird...10:48
Jucato!pastebin10:48
Ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)10:48
Yz85Racer...?10:48
Jucatouse pastebin and paste the output of "ls -l"10:48
Yz85Racerk10:48
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Yz85Racerjuc10:49
Yz85Racerits only10:49
Yz85Racer2 lines10:49
Jucatook10:49
Yz85Racertotal 506810:49
Yz85Racer-rwxr-xr-x 1 kyle kyle 5175944 2007-06-26 20:36 Tibia10:49
Yz85Racerkyle@kyle-desktop:~/Desktop/Tibia/Tibia$10:49
Yz85Raceroh10:49
Yz85Racerthree10:49
Yz85Racer:(10:49
Jucatoare you sure it won't run with ./Tibia ? (don't forget the ./ )10:49
Yz85Raceryes10:50
Yz85Racerkyle@kyle-desktop:~/Desktop/Tibia/Tibia$ ./Tibia10:50
Yz85Racerbash: ./Tibia: No such file or directory10:50
Jucatohow about "sh ./Tibia" ?10:50
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Yz85Racerkyle@kyle-desktop:~/Desktop/Tibia/Tibia$ "sh ./Tibia10:51
Yz85Racer>10:51
giorgi'l,m;'10:51
JucatoYz85Racer: er.. Ctrl+C and next time, don't include the quotes10:51
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Yz85Racer> sh ./Tibia10:52
Yz85Racer>10:52
Yz85Racersee10:52
Yz85Racero.010:52
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Jucatodid you press Ctrl+C first?10:52
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Yz85Racerkyle@kyle-desktop:~/Desktop/Tibia/Tibia$ sh ./Tibia10:53
Yz85Racer./Tibia: 1: Syntax error: word unexpected (expecting ")")10:53
Yz85Raceri pressed10:53
Yz85Racerctrl c10:53
Yz85Racerfirst10:53
Jucatoreally weird...10:53
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Jucatocan you give me a link to where you downloaded that so I could test?10:54
Yz85Racerhttp://download3.tibia.com/tibia800.tgz10:54
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Jucatohm. taking a while to download...10:55
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Jucatowait! are you sure this game runs on linux in the first place?10:56
Yz85Raceryes10:56
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Yz85RacerLinux10:57
Yz85Racer  System Requirements:10:57
Yz85RacerLinux with libc version 6 or later10:57
Yz85RacerX-Window system installed10:57
Yz85RacerHardware accelerated graphics driver10:57
Yz85Racer32 MB free hard disk space10:57
Yz85RacerA connection to the internet10:57
Yz85RacerDownload and Installation:10:57
Yz85RacerDownload the game (approx. 15.5 MB):10:57
Yz85RacerLinux Tibia Client 8.010:57
Jucato!paste | Yz85Racer10:57
UbotuYz85Racer: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)10:57
JucatoYz85Racer: you downloaded the windows version10:57
Jucatohttp://download.tibia.com/tibia800.tgz <--- linux version10:58
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Yz85Racerno i didnt10:59
Yz85Racerbecause its in a tgz and its not a .exe10:59
Jucatoa tgz is like a winzip... it's just an archive10:59
Jucatolook at the links again. download3.tibia.com is for the windows version10:59
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Yz85Racerhttp://download3.tibia.com/tibia800.tgz11:00
Yz85Racertake a look for yourself11:00
Yz85Racerhttps://secure.tibia.com/account/?subtopic=downloadclient11:00
Yz85Raceri re extracted11:00
Yz85Racerand now iv got11:00
Yz85RacerPatch  Showerror  Tibia  Tibia.dat  Tibia.pic  Tibia.spr  Tibia.xpm11:00
Yz85Racerwhen i press ls11:00
Yz85Racerthe first three11:01
Yz85Racerare in green11:01
Jucatohm..11:01
Jucatohow about just typing Tibia? does that work?11:02
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Yz85Racerkyle@kyle-desktop:~/Desktop/Tibia$ Tibia11:03
Yz85Racerbash: Tibia: command not found11:03
Jucatohm... 50%... wonder what's wrong11:03
Bob1nzhey11:03
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Yz85RacerJucato: http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/862/snapshot1zw3.png11:06
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Jucatojust waiting for the download to finish11:06
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arkadiomoraleselo11:07
arkadiomoralesmam kubuntu11:07
arkadiomoralesjak go odinstalowalc ?11:07
Jucato!pl | arkadiomorales11:07
Ubotuarkadiomorales: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl11:07
lnx_what is the kde command for this : $gnome-cups-manager ?11:08
JucatoSystem Settings -> Printers ?11:09
JucatoYz85Racer: it works perfectly here...11:09
Yz85Racercould u tell me what you did?11:09
Jucato./Tibia11:10
Yz85Racerohk11:10
Yz85Raceri download it11:10
Yz85Racerright click .tgz11:10
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Yz85Racerclick extract to tibia80011:11
Yz85Racergo to konsole11:11
Yz85Racerthen type11:11
Yz85Racercd /home/kyle/Desktop/tibia800/Tibia11:11
Yz85Racerthen ./Tibia11:11
Yz85Racerthen it fkn says11:11
Yz85Racerbash: ./Tibia: No such file or directory11:11
Yz85Racerkyle@kyle-desktop:~/Desktop/tibia800/Tibi11:11
lnx_someone ?11:12
Jucatolnx_: System Settings -> Printers ?11:12
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JucatoYz85Racer: ok again in Konsole: cd ~/Desktop/Tibia11:13
Yz85Racerdone11:13
Jucatothat's where it is, based on what you're showing me in Konqueror11:13
Jucato./Tibia11:13
Yz85Racerbash: ./Tibia: No such file or directory11:13
Yz85Racerkyle@kyle-desktop:~/Desktop/Tibia$11:13
Bob1nzlevel1 r u there11:14
Jucatohuh?? really weird... last try11:14
JucatoYz85Racer: in Konqueror, go to that directory you showed me in that screenshot11:14
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hereticsudo updatedb;locate Tibia|less11:14
Yz85Racerk11:14
JucatoYz85Racer: press F4, a Konsole should popup11:14
TeePOGhi guys11:15
Jucatothen type ./Tibia again11:15
TeePOGhow do i re-run the KDE settings wizard?11:15
Yz85Racerk11:15
Yz85Racerbash: ./Tibia: No such file or directory11:15
Yz85Racerkyle@kyle-desktop:~/Desktop/Tibia$11:15
JucatoTeePOG: install kpersonalizer if it isn't installed yet, then run "kpersonalizer"11:15
JucatoYz85Racer: ok I'm getting annoyed.. one last try... just enter this command: ~/Desktop/Tibia/Tibia11:16
TeePOGthanks Jucato. it got installed as dependency11:16
Jucatoif that still doesn't work, I don't know what will :(11:16
hereticYz85Racer: type ls  -alh|grep xr11:17
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Jucatoheretic: see the imageshack link above11:17
Yz85Racerheretic:11:17
Yz85Racerdrwxr-xr-x 2 kyle kyle 4.0K 2007-06-26 20:36 .11:17
Yz85Racer-rwxr-xr-x 1 kyle kyle  36K 2007-06-26 20:36 Patch11:17
Yz85Racer-rwxr-xr-x 1 kyle kyle 6.8K 2007-06-26 20:36 Showerror11:17
Yz85Racer-rwxr-xr-x 1 kyle kyle 5.0M 2007-06-26 20:36 Tibia11:17
heretici came in late11:17
Jucato[17:06]  <Yz85Racer> Jucato: http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/862/snapshot1zw3.png11:17
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JucatoYz85Racer: so it still didn't work?11:19
hereticahh11:19
Yz85Racernop11:19
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Jucatosorry11:19
hereticsh /home/kyle/Desktop/Tibia/Tibia11:19
hereticYz85Racer: ^^ try that11:19
Jucatoheretic: the weird part is, it works fine over here11:19
Jucatohttp://download3.tibia.com/tibia800.tgz11:19
Yz85Racerheretic:11:20
Yz85Racer/home/kyle/Desktop/Tibia/Tibia: 1: Syntax error: word unexpected (expecting ")")11:20
Yz85Racerkyle@kyle-desktop:~/Desktop/Tibia$11:20
hereticbetter then nto found11:20
Jucatonot a shell script :)11:20
JucatoYz85Racer:  you sure you used a period slash for ./ right? :)11:20
Yz85Raceryes11:21
hereticalright lets try this11:22
heretic./home/kyle/Desktop/Tibia/Tibia11:22
Yz85Racerbash: ./home/kyle/Desktop/Tibia/Tibia: No such file or directory11:23
Yz85Racerkyle@kyle-desktop:~/Desktop/Tibia11:23
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Jucatoready to give up?11:23
Yz85Racernop11:24
Jucatothat was for heretic...11:24
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Yz85Raceroh11:24
Yz85Racer:P11:24
Jucatothe only other possibility I can think of is that the download wasn't finished or was corrupted...11:24
Bob1nzwat about downloading it again?11:24
Yz85Racerits not that easy11:24
Yz85Raceriv got capped net11:24
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Yz85Racerthat took like11:24
Bob1nzgutted11:24
Yz85Racer2 hours to download11:25
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Bob1nzhey i havn trouble using commands in konsole ie. modprobe not working any ideas?11:27
hereticBob1nz: use "sudo" before such commands11:28
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Bob1nzyeah i have been n it tells me too install module-init-tools which i did and still no go11:29
hereticsame message afterwards?11:29
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Jucatowhat's the exact modprobe command you are using11:30
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Bob1nzyup will put it in a paste thing n show u11:30
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VSpikeRecoll is great11:31
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Bob1nzhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/161/11:32
Bob1nzheres the output11:33
Bob1nzfrom the modprobe thing11:33
Jucatoyou installed modutils?11:33
Bob1nzwill jst check11:33
Jucato:/11:33
Bob1nzsorry im new11:34
Jucato:)11:34
Jucatowell it's the first recommendation in that error message11:34
Bob1nzya i tried it earlier today and it didnt work so i reinstalled the os11:35
JucatoO.o11:35
Bob1nzstill no go it updated modutils heas the output11:37
Bob1nzhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/162/11:37
Jucatoum... btw you need to use sudo with modprobe11:38
Bob1nzoh..... ok il try that11:38
Bob1nzit just goes to the next line is it sposed to11:39
Jucatoif it loaded the module successfully, yes11:40
Bob1nzlike no extra writing?11:40
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Jucatoas far as I know11:40
Bob1nzoh ok so how would i change that module ie. card=0 to card=3?11:40
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Bob1nzok thats kewl il do a bit of a google around thanks :)11:42
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pillowpantsok, im talking from bitchx in a shell11:44
pillowpantsi messed up my xorg11:44
pillowpantswhen i hit startx, it tells me no screens were found11:44
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pillowpantswhat should i do?11:44
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pillowpantsanyone?11:46
hangthedjpillowpants, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg then startx11:46
pillowpantsah yes, thanks11:46
jussi01with sudo on the front of course11:46
pillowpantsyeah11:46
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pillowpantsi think i installed my drivers wrong11:47
pillowpantsill try it and tell you how it goes, thanks11:47
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pillowpantsthanks, was just what i was looking for11:54
pillowpantsive been in this situation before and not known what to do11:55
pillowpantsi always forget the command11:55
pillowpantsits the drivers i tried to install, but ill worry about it tomorrow, g'night11:55
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AnarchI'm trying to get my xorg.conf to give me a higher resolution, but starting X just gives me a flickering screen the color of my background.  How can I find what refresh rates to set for a generic monitor that just says "*Reflex" on it?12:10
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Leojw00t w00t!  I just got Plone installed :D12:11
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wersI am playing Microsoft AVI videos on kaffeine.the audio is good but the video is very choppy. what can i do?12:16
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Allooshhi, how to connect to my kubuntu computer from other computers?12:21
SlimeyPeteyou want to share files, Alloosh? Or do you want to control your computer remotely?12:25
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AllooshSlimeyPete: I want to control my computer remotely12:26
AnarchI'm googling for HorizSync & VertRefresh rates for my monitor, but no clues yet.  Ideas appreciated.12:26
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SlimeyPete!ssh | Alloosh12:32
UbotuAlloosh: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/12:32
SlimeyPete!vnc | Alloosh12:32
UbotuAlloosh: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX12:32
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werswhat applet can I put on my kicker for me to see my WLAN's signal?12:36
JuKaterssiwers: knemo, knetstats, knetload, knetdockapp12:37
wersthanks JuKaterssi. is what among the choices shows the signal strenght with its taskbar icon?12:40
JuKaterssium.. all of them I think12:40
JuKaterssinot really sure12:40
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wersi tried knemo and knetstats and I remember that their icons do not indicate signal strenght] 12:43
wersi'm going to try knetdockapp12:43
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icecoolhey i need some help12:44
JuKaterssiask. if someone knows the answer, they will12:44
icecooli have some packages downloaded from the net and i want to configure apt so that it gets the packages from my harddrive rather than the internet12:45
SlimeyPeteicecool: just use dpkg to install them12:45
JuKaterssibut you'll have to manually resolve dependencies12:45
icecoolthen i would have to install the dependencies my self12:46
SlimeyPeteah, true12:46
JuKaterssiare these packages from Kubuntu's repositories?12:46
icecooli want it configures so that it will search for the dependencies from the downloaded location12:46
icecoolthey are from ubuntu12:46
icecoolthe ubuntu repositories12:47
JuKaterssiin that case, you might just need to put them in /var/cache/apt/archives/12:47
icecooli tried that12:47
JuKaterssiand?12:47
icecooldo i need to make some package index or something12:47
icecoolwell it still wants the internet connection to get the dependencies12:48
JuKaterssihm... no I don't think so. it should just automatically notice that the package is already there and won't download it12:48
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JuKaterssiperhaps it's still missing some dependencies that you haven't donwloaded12:48
JuKaterssiand sometimes it appears as if it's downloading, but you'll notice that it goes from 1% to 100% very quickly12:49
JuKaterssioh he's gone :)12:49
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lazz0does someone know how much dex i need for fast veterinary?12:49
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lazz0wrong chan :)12:50
JuKaterssilol12:50
JuKaterssisome rpg... veterinary? hahah12:50
lazz0yea12:50
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The-CompilerHi there12:59
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liquidus219sup01:01
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wershmmm.. I just installed knemo. I ran it on the terminal by entering "knemo" but bash: knemo: command not found01:07
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emilsedghwers: its on systemSettings :)01:09
emilsedghwers: its not an application01:09
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wersohh.. on Mepis, knemo was on the sys tray.. how do I put knemo on my systray?01:10
DexterFok, my usb subsystem is falling apart here01:10
DexterFcan someone please look at this:  http://pastebin.ca/69549901:11
yamalwers: once you use knemo its icon will appear there01:11
DexterFthat's what dmesg gives me when I re-plug my usb dvb-t device (terratec cinergy2)01:12
emilsedghwers: its a sys tray, but you should active it from systemSettings->Network Monitor01:12
wersyep. i activated it already but it still is not on my system tray01:12
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DexterFmy card reader behaves odd, too, devices via my usb hub work buggy, in thre other distros all fine01:13
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JohnFluxI bought the cheapest no-brand wireless pci card and a wireless pcmcia card01:19
JohnFluxI plugged them, and ubuntu recognised them both and they both just worked straight away01:19
JohnFluxvery impressive! :)01:19
JohnFluxit's now easier than windows heh01:20
Fractiondont know if this question belongs here to please correct me if it does not, but Im having trouble configuring my dual boot01:21
jussi01Fraction: ask away01:21
Fractionok thanks. What I want is to use XP and Kubuntu, but how do I make the XP cd know about the Linux partition? I read somewhere that u need to install win first since is messes up the grub? but the installation just tells me that I dont have a HDD ...01:24
Fractionalso I have tried to partition the entire hdd with ntfs using QParted on the feisty fawn cd01:24
JohnFluxFraction: windows does not play nice with linux at all01:25
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JohnFluxFraction: it won't recognise a linux partition01:25
structwill the next release of kubuntu have compiz like ubuntu?01:25
JohnFluxFraction: you have linux installed, right?01:26
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JohnFluxstruct: the next release is a long term release, so no big changes as such01:26
Fractionwell I did.. right now Im running from the installation CD.. and try to partition the HDD so I think the data is kinda corrupt01:26
JohnFluxFraction: and you want to now install windows01:26
Fractionyeah I want to dual boot01:26
JohnFluxthe windows or linux installation cd?01:26
Fractionlinux01:27
JohnFluxFraction: and do you have windows installed already?01:27
JohnFluxstruct: you can run compiz in kubuntu though01:27
Fractionno.. cause if I try to boot using the win cd it tells me I dont have a hdd01:27
JohnFluxFraction: is it a sata disk?01:27
FractionI even get this problem when I have partitioned the entire hdd as ntfs01:27
Fractionyeah01:27
JohnFluxFraction: windows doesn't support sata01:28
SlimeyPeteXP installer can't see SATA01:28
JohnFluxFraction: at installation01:28
SlimeyPeteactually, it does support it01:28
JohnFluxFraction: windows doesn't support hardware very well01:28
SlimeyPetebut the graphical installer doesn't01:28
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SlimeyPeteyou can use the recovery console01:28
SlimeyPeteand use fdisk to manually configure the partitions. Then it works.01:28
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Fractionahh thanks, will try that01:28
JohnFluxFraction: hopefully one day windows will have as good as hardware support as linux :-D01:28
JohnFluxthen it will be ready for the desktop :-D01:29
Fractionhaha yeah01:29
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Fractiondont want windows but wine doesnt seem to support my video card01:29
JohnFluxFraction: an alternative, and I loathe to mention it, is to use vista instead01:29
Fractionheh no thanks01:29
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FractionIt took me longer time to startup vista the first time, than to reformat the hdd install and burn kubuntu and start it01:29
Fractionit was the os that was preinstalled on the comp01:30
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JohnFluxFraction: you can probably google for installing xp on sata01:30
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JohnFluxFraction: get windows installed first, then put linux on01:30
JohnFluxFraction: i think you can get windows install to not use all the disk01:30
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JohnFluxFraction: that will minimise your problems I think01:31
Fractionalright, thanks alot for your help!01:31
wersi just inserted a cd to my drive but kubuntu did not react. I cannot see the CD icon on the desktop nor on my media:/. why is it like that?01:32
JohnFluxwers: at the risk of insulting you, but you didn't insert a dvd into a cd drive right? :)01:33
JohnFluxwers: do any other cd's work?01:33
JohnFluxwers: I once had to reboot to get it to recognise a cd01:34
wersi just inserted an ordinary cd and it is on the right drive. it's okay. you're helping me.. i wasnt insulted.. other cds dont work too01:34
wersi too, have to reboot for cds to be recognized01:35
wersit happens to me often01:35
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Ross154anyone tell me  how yo make the scanbuttond -r 1000000 command resident. so it autoruns at bootup pls ?01:41
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JohnFluxRoss154: echo  "scanbuttond -r 1000000  &" > /etc/rc2.d/S99scanbuttond01:43
JohnFluxRoss154: I think that would work01:44
JohnFluxRoss154: quick and nasty :)01:44
Ross154lol01:44
Ross154ta01:44
JohnFluxRoss154: need to run that as root01:44
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Ross154k01:44
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jussi01how do i adjust page orientation in scribus?01:48
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BluesKajHowdy All :)02:02
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JakoavainHiii :)02:03
fabriziohi02:03
BluesKaj!hi | Jakoavain02:03
ubotuJakoavain: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!02:03
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JakoavainGod damn it :/ Been without sounds for 2days, as long as I've had Kubuntu :)02:04
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JakoavainGoogle for teh win02:05
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BluesKajJakoavain, k-menu/system settings/sound system/enable sound system,then choose hardware tab/select the audio device/Advanced Linux Sound Architecture, click apply02:06
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JakoavainBeen there done that :/ Mixer cannot be found02:07
JakoavainThe whole comp doesn't  reconize I have a soundcard02:07
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JakoavainI've been using the satanistic windows for 4years, so be gentle to me02:08
BluesKajJakoavain, we'd better check that first, in the terminal type: lspci | grep audio02:09
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Jakoavain00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: ALi Corporation M5455 PCI AC-Link Controller Audio Device (rev 20)02:09
JakoavainWithout music for 2days, I feel like shit 8D02:09
BluesKajsudo asoundconf list02:10
JakoavainNames of available sound cards:02:11
JakoavainNothing :/02:11
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JakoavainI'll go to get something to eat, I'll be right back02:12
BluesKajwell Jakoavain, you need to search for the linux driver for your soundcard and install it.02:13
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JakoavainOkey, I already have one02:15
JakoavainAnd, I don't know, should I unzip it and then open with konsole, or what?02:15
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BluesKajwhat's the file extn .. zip ?02:18
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emilsedghJuKaterssi: is that a package, or source? there should be a README or INSTALL file02:20
BluesKajJakoavain, for linux it should be tar.gz or bz2 id it's a compressed file02:20
JuKaterssihuh? what? huh?02:20
BluesKajid=if02:20
JakoavainBluesKaj: sorry for the windowslike ".zip" =D Yeah, it's tar.gz02:21
JakoavainJuKaterssi: I think he ment me02:21
JuKaterssitsk tsk... :)02:21
CheshireKotconnection tests02:22
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CheshireKothi, I'n with you!02:22
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BluesKajJakoavain, then in the Konsole : tar -xvf nameoffile.tar.gz...usually if you right click on properties and select the name (selectall) copy andpaste it to the Konsole , that will work02:23
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BluesKajJakoavain, that creates a Folde rand readme and other files in the folder..readmes and install text files usually give inatallation instructions02:27
CheshireKot           !02:27
jussi01!ru | CheshireKot02:27
ubotuCheshireKot:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke02:27
BluesKaj!ru02:28
wersWill kde4 require higher hardware specifications?02:28
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BluesKajdunno wers02:28
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emilsedghwers: no02:28
emilsedghwers: even, maybe less than KDE3, and faster :)02:28
werswow02:28
wersyeah.. that may be because of the latest qt02:29
BluesKajwe hope02:29
emilsedghwers: kdelibs, too :)\02:29
JakoavainBlueskaj, okey thx. I'll try if it works :)02:29
JuKaterssiwers: higher hardware spec? no. it ain't vista :)02:30
wershahaha02:30
wersi think, i will just have to disable some features for my hardware to work fine with it02:31
wersfeatures like the new eye candies that come with kwin02:31
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CheshireKotwers: I'm not shure there'll be any reason to disable any features02:32
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JuKaterssiwers: those will deactive themselves if it detects that the hardware doesn't support it02:32
JuKaterssibesides, the compositing features are not enabled by default02:32
JuKaterssiand purely optional. like the way it is in KDE 3 right now02:32
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wersohh.. so there would be something like the kpersonalizer in kde 302:33
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JuKaterssidunno if it's ported to KDE 4... but kpersonalizer is just a wizard. :)02:33
jeffmHI, all.  Stupid question here.  I would like to install Pidgin (not GAIM) on a new install of Feisty, but I don't see pidgin in the software list.  Looking online, like at getdeb shows .debs for pidgin and I can certainly install them manually.  But I'd really like them available through apt-get (would that get Pidgin automagically updated by adept updater?)02:33
JuKaterssiyou should read the last page of kpersonalizer02:33
bluesmandm.02:34
wersjeffm, get a deb from getdeb.net02:34
wersi guess, pidgin is not in the repos02:34
JuKaterssi!pidgin02:34
ubotupidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info.02:34
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JuKaterssithe release of pidgin didn't make it to Feisty's release02:34
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jeffmSo I guess my question is 2-part.  First, would adding a repository with pidgin get it automatically updated, and does getdeb have some sort of repository I can add?02:34
wersnope.. no repo from getdeb02:35
wersi guess, you will have to update manually on feisty02:35
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jeffmOK.  So if I want Pidgin, I'm looking at a manual install (again, I have no problem with this -- I'm just addicted to automatic updates.)02:35
knulfinecan someone give me the link for the geman channel?02:36
BluesKajjeffm, in order to enable more repos check out source-o-matic02:36
CheshireKot#ubuntu-ger 02:36
knulfinethanks02:36
CheshireKot*maybe)))02:36
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JuKaterssi!de | knulfine02:37
ubotuknulfine: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de02:37
CheshireKotrussian channel is ubuntu-ru02:37
CheshireKoto! ubuntu-de then02:37
JuKaterssijeffm: if you can wait for a month, Gutsy will be coming out, with Pidgin02:37
knulfineubotu thanks02:37
BluesKaj!source-o-matic | jeffm02:37
ubotujeffm: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic02:37
ubotuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)02:37
CheshireKotbots are people too! I'm for equal rights for bots!)))02:38
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jeffmK, all.  Thanks.  I look forward to Gutsy.  And maybe in the span of a month, I won't need a manual update anyway.02:38
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BluesKajhmm ,pidgin not in the repos ....that's surprising02:40
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enojBluesKaj: try gaim02:41
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sander_hi!02:41
sander_I've got some problems with the KNetworkManager..02:41
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sander_I set it to manual configuration once.. and now I can't get it back to the initial state02:42
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sander_For instance I now never see that list of availible wireless routers in the dialog anymore...02:42
JakoavainSo the instructionsmanual says copy files to the "/usr/src/linux/drivers/sound" The only thing is that, theres only usr/src then it comes 4different linux-headers folders, and one ALSA folder? Really weird02:43
sander_To be short I want to revert back to the zeroconfig settings... any idea how I should do this?02:44
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BluesKajenoj, msn in kopete works for me ... seldom use the IMs anyway02:45
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combinioon debian installing xserver-xgl is same like on (k)ubuntu ?? :] 02:47
combinio( to have beryl )02:47
enojBluesKaj: i said gaim because pidgin = gaim02:47
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sander_Can someone at least tell me where I can remove the current settings of this KNetworkManager?02:53
sander_.kde doesn't seem to contain it... :(02:53
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Lynouresander_: stuff like passphrases are kept in kwallet02:54
SlimeyPetesander_: dpkg --reconfigure knetworkmanager      ?02:54
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Lynoureyes, reconfigure works for the other parts.02:56
sander_Lynoure: nothing is stored in kwallet (no passphrases)02:56
sander_I'll reconfigure..02:56
sander_tnx!02:56
JakoavainBluesKaj: Here?02:56
Lynouresander_: yes it is, if you let it.02:56
BluesKajyup02:56
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Lynouresander_: unless you have some weird new version that stores them elsewhere...02:57
JakoavainDo you know what to do ? :)02:57
sander_Lynoure: I mean that I don't use passphrases so they're not stored there :)02:57
Lynouresander_: oh, ok :)02:57
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sander_passphrases are an illusion of security :)02:57
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Lynouresander_: I so disagree with you there. 64 character random passphrase on WPA makes a whole lot of difference over open wlan in terms of who gets in and how fasn02:58
Lynoures/fasn/fast02:58
sander_wpa is a bit better but I've used some well known techniques to use some WEP 'secured' within minutes02:59
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Lynouresander_: WEP is obselete02:59
sander_true02:59
BluesKajJakoavain, at what stage are you in the install or is it finished?03:00
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sander_sander@san-ubuntu-laptop:~$ dpkg --reconfigure knetworkmanager03:01
sander_dpkg: unknown option --reconfigure03:01
samionko kelln radeon nyttist tll?03:01
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Jakoavain[15:43]  <Jakoavain> So the instructionsmanual says copy files to the "/usr/src/linux/drivers/sound" The only thing is that, theres only usr/src then it comes 4different linux-headers folders, and one ALSA folder? Really weird03:01
BluesKaj!fi | sami03:01
ubotusami: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi03:01
samioho03:01
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sander_ah it is: sudo dpkg-reconfigure knetworkmanager03:02
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BluesKajJakoavain, check again, are you sure those instructions are for Kubuntu ?03:03
JakoavainYeah, that could be the reason.. that their not for kubuntu. My friend gave the url for this one03:03
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BluesKajaha03:04
sergiohello03:04
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BluesKaj!hello | sergio03:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hello - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:04
BluesKajhehe03:05
BluesKaj!hi | sergio03:05
ubotusergio: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!03:05
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sergiohow are you?03:05
BluesKajwe are fine, do you have a question, sergio ?03:05
hydrogen!splash03:05
ubotuTo change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.03:05
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hydrogen!bootsplash03:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bootsplash - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:05
Jucatohydrogen: what yah looking for?03:05
sergiowhy?03:06
hydrogenJucato: the command to run after switching the image on bootsplash with update-alternatives03:06
Jucatousplash?03:06
Jucatooh wait03:06
Jucato!usplash03:06
ubotuTo select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork03:06
hydrogenyea03:06
hydrogenthats it!03:06
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sander_damn reconfiguration of the KNetworkManager keeps the same manual configuration....03:07
AnarchGnome boots into 1280x1024 but KDE goes to 1024x768.  KDE applets can't change the resolution; it has to be done outside X, but not in xorg.conf AFAIK.  Where does KDE store it?  This is an Intel 965 chipset & I have the new intel driver installed under Feisty.03:07
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JakoavainALi 5451 audio driver for linux kernel 2.4.X03:08
JakoavainThat's the one BluesKaj03:08
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BluesKajJakoavain, did you untar the file ?03:10
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JakoavainI wrote thing in the konsole, as you said. Then the console show'd me a list of files It contained.03:11
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JakoavainBut I had already untarred in my desktop03:11
sergiogood bye03:11
JakoavainCya :)03:11
timI heard there was a google earth type thing for KDE, anyone know if its available for fiesty?03:11
ubunturostim: may be it is in KDE 403:12
ubunturoscalled Marble03:12
Jucatoit's not really a Google Earth for KDE :)03:12
BluesKajok cd to the folder on your desktop or move the folder to /home/yourname , cuz the konsole defaults to that directory ...that way you save having to type longpath names when trying to compile and install apps03:13
emilsedghJucato: I hope it will, sometime, what happened on KML support?03:13
Jucato!info marble03:13
ubotumarble: generic geographical map widget. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2-2 (feisty), package size 153 kB, installed size 456 kB03:13
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Jucatodunno... haven't followed marble's development lately03:13
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BluesKajJakoavain, a hint when DLing files, always DL to the /home/yourname directory03:14
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garfield_!flash03:18
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash03:18
JakoavainOkey, It's in the folder now :) Maybe I'll remember that one, in the future ;D03:18
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JakoavainBluesKaj:  So, if that is for ubuntu, isn't it possible to use it on ubuntu?03:20
Jakoavainkubuntu*03:20
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pikkuhukka:o03:20
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BluesKajJakoavain, yes you can use it , just install it like I said earlier03:21
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BluesKajJakoavain, that untar command created a folder with readmes and install text files, which usually give installation instructions03:23
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JakoavainBlueskaj, yes it has the installation guide, but still the folder it says; doesn't exists03:24
BluesKajok cd to the folder on your desktop or move the folder to /home/yourname , cuz the konsole defaults to that directory ...that way you save having to type longpath names when trying to compile and install apps03:24
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BluesKajJakoavain, cd foldername ...look at the folder properties to get the exact name first03:26
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JakoavainYeah, but which one of these is the correct folder cuz all 4of them has the drivers folder in it.03:32
BluesKaj4 folders?03:32
JakoavainLinux-headers03:32
BluesKajreadme03:32
JakoavainIt says "linux"03:33
JakoavainNot anything else03:33
Jakoavain"First of all, copy trident.c and trident.h to /usr/src/linux/drivers/sound"03:33
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BluesKajis there a "configure" or "make" file in the folder ?03:35
BluesKajor "install" ?03:35
timjust a quick report back on the marble thing: version 0.2 (2 versions behind) is in fiesty. however the ap only plots town locations and is not a map program comparable to google earth03:35
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JakoavainNo, only readme and the tridents03:36
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Jucatotim: Marble wasn't created to be a google earth for KDE :)03:36
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Jucatoso naturally it won't be comparable to google earth03:37
JakoavainMaybe I need the kernel development package installed :D03:37
Jucatotim: http://edu.kde.org/marble/03:38
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timjucato: I know that now03:39
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mrksbrdi need help installing adobe tar file!!!!03:40
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BluesKajJakoavain, open kate ..alt+F2, then your password , then,  kdesu kate /usr/src/linux/drivers/sound"03:41
Hobbsee!kde3.5.703:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kde3.5.7 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:41
BluesKaj!tar | mrksbrd03:42
mrksbrd!adobe03:42
ubotumrksbrd: Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression03:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about adobe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:42
genii!info kde feisty03:42
ubotukde: the K Desktop Environment official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:47 (feisty), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB03:42
mrksbrd!tar03:42
genii!info kdelibs feisty03:42
ubotukdelibs: core libraries from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu14.1 (feisty), package size 40 kB, installed size 92 kB03:42
geniihmm03:42
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BluesKajJakoavain, then, copy trident.c and trident.h to /usr/src/linux/drivers/sound"...dunno if it will work but I guess it's worth a try03:45
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BluesKajJakoavain, drop the " at the end of the /usr/src/linux/drivers/sound file03:47
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mattperry1976I'm needing some help getting VirtualBox setup with Kubuntu gutsy host and XP guest...cannot get USB to be recognized in guest...03:51
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mattperry1976I have setup usbusers etc like all the forums seem to suggest, however still no luck...anyone have any sucess with this?03:52
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JakoavainWhy should I open kate, if the alt+f2 opens run command? :p03:52
mrksbrdok un tar'd the adobe file, will not let me run the install file!!!!!!!!!03:54
BluesKajyou open kate in the run command with your password so you have permission to edit the file in kate , like adding files03:54
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Ace2016Hi all i just found this: http://www.kubuntu-art.org/03:55
Ace2016never knew that existed03:55
BluesKajJakoavain, if you don't open kate with permission , it won't save it with the added files03:56
Ace2016maybe it should be added to the chanel topic03:56
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BluesKajyeah Ace2016, but i havw aquestion about all the really dark themes in the wallpapers ...too much "gamerz murky mind garbage" appeal in those pics03:59
BluesKaj:)03:59
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JakoavainBluesKaj: One thing, how about the kernel modify package ? Sorry if I'm annoying you but this kind of compthings aren't made for me :D03:59
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BluesKajdunno Jakoavain, depends on your kernel , that's bit beyond my scope04:01
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BluesKajgenii, .. you there ?04:02
mattperry1976does anyone know how to find out what your usb "path" is?04:02
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geniiback04:03
geniiBluesKaj: Yeah now I am LOL04:03
BluesKajmattperry1976, look in storage media , if your usb drive is there , click on it then copy the location from the addressbar ...i think that's what you need04:04
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BluesKajhey genii ...we nedd to know whether Jakoavain, needs to install a kernel modify package, for his audio drivers ?04:05
mattperry1976BluesKaj: it is not listed there..but it shows up when I do lsusb...any ideas?04:05
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BluesKajok mattperry1976 , do a konqeror locate04:06
geniiscrolling up to catch up on Jakoavain situation04:06
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geniiJakoavain: to find what kernel you are using, do: uname -r           then you know which of the 4 you need04:07
JakoavainYeah, 2.6.20-16-generic04:08
linuxmceany ideas what to do when firefox want close04:08
The_Machineuse xkill :P04:09
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geniiJakoavain: So the headers or so that you want to modify/copy etc for the driver to compile are in that one if it exists there.04:09
geniiJakoavain: You already installed some things for the compiling part like package build-essential I hope :)04:10
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Doctor_Nickim gonna headbutt your face04:11
Doctor_Nick*bam*04:11
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erich__i'm having trouble getting my netgear wireless adapter to work in kubuntu04:13
JakoavainI haven't done anything yet, :P This whole thing was put together by my linuxuserfriend :D04:13
thomas__how do I download stuff once I connect with putty ?04:13
SlimeyPeteyou don't. You need to use samba, pscp or winscp for that04:14
erich__download to the computer you're connected to or to the computer you're connected from?04:14
SlimeyPete(winscp is easiest)04:14
thomas__I'm connecting to a computer04:14
erich__right, do you want to download something to that computer. or do you want to download something from that computer?04:15
thomas__from04:15
erich__not sure how to do that. Slimey says you have to use a different program04:15
thomas__kk04:16
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thomas__SlimeyPete: i'm sure you can download stuff in the terminal though right04:16
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SlimeyPetethomas__: not using putty.04:17
m00foothomas__: you can use good old z-modem04:17
m00foothomas__: rz / sz .04:17
SlimeyPetethomas__: pscp is the putty file-transfer app, and it's free, as is winscp04:17
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m00foo(afair putty supports zmodem .. havent used it for years though ;)04:18
mattperry1976BluesKaj: how do I do a konqeror locate?04:18
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m00foobut scp is the saner way ;)04:18
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benluohi04:19
mattperry1976BluesKaj: I'm trying to use minicom etc and I don't know what path to use to send/recv to a specific usb serial port etc...04:21
Doctor_Nick:D04:21
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geniihmm04:24
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SlimeyPeterun out of coffee?04:24
geniiAlmost :)04:24
geniiSlimeyPete: Waiting for the Benadryl to kick in, have horrible allergy reaction this morning04:25
maverick_does anyone know of any linux bandwidth shaper, that would let me increase or decrease the rate lively without needing to restart the app like TRICKLE requires04:26
maverick_?04:26
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maverick_Just like NETLIMITER odes in windows04:27
maverick_does*04:27
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mattperry1976I'm trying to use minicom and cannot figure out the "Serial Device Path" for a specific usb port...anyone know how to figure this out if the usb port does not show as 'media' etc...it does show up in lsusb list?04:34
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garfield:/04:35
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garfieldi cant get true to view flash on youtube.i install flash nonfree but the videos still dont play04:36
Arkygeekhi  where did all the printer drivers go?  specifically my epson stylus photo r220 ?????04:36
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erich__thomas__: did you figure it out?04:38
erich__thomas__: i figured out how to do it from the terminal if that's what you want04:38
thomas__erich__: yes, i haven't tried again yet because I ate bk04:39
thomas__erich__: what command is it?04:39
thomas__erich__: i thought it was GET04:39
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erich__thomas__: i use scp04:40
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erich__thomas__: only works from linux to linux though. otherwise you have to get winscp04:40
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erich__thomas__: but for example: scp -r darkstar@192.168.0.5:/home/darkstar/Desktop/randomstuff /home/erich/Desktop04:41
erich__thomas__: that will copy that folder to my desktop04:41
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thomas__erich__: from a linux machine to your windows machine04:42
erich__thomas__: that's from linux to linux04:43
erich__thomas__: from linux to windows, you're going to need to get winscp04:43
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thomas__erich__: i got putty04:44
garfieldthomas__: try type in konqueror "smb://ip.of.xpmachine/ " if your linux is allready conected to your xp machine04:45
erich__thomas__: i've never used winscp so i don't know how it works04:45
erich__garfield: he's trying to grab files off his linux machine and put them on his windows machine04:46
Jakoavaingenii and Blueskaj, thx for helping me :) I'll need to try it later, if I can, but now I'll have to go. Cya dudes!04:46
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garfielderich__: oh the other way aorund lol04:46
geniiJakoavain: See you later04:46
erich__garfield: yeah04:47
erich__garfield: i only know how to do from linux to linux04:47
garfielderich__:ok04:48
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geniiFinally, i think the allergy medicine is kicking in04:49
radiusguess you'll be falling asleep soon (;04:49
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radiusor space out for the rest of the time it's in your system04:49
geniiradius: Hopefully not...that's why I always have lots of coffee around :)04:50
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radiusoh 2 negative forces04:50
geniiJucato: If that happens I'll have to commit hari kari or else switch to that new caffeine gum LOL04:50
radiusthe only allergy med i can take is the one that's lactose free and that causes drowsiness04:51
Jucatohari kiri04:51
geniiJucato: Thx, didn't know was spelt that way04:51
Jucatoat least you'll know before you do it :)04:51
geniiHeh, yeah04:51
Jucatoor better yet. you can ask me to do it for you04:52
kkathmando any of you know of a news aggregator that allows a "list" of topics to be submitted?04:52
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thomas__garfield: whats smb04:52
Jucato!smb04:53
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT04:53
garfieldthomas__: samba04:53
kkathmanall the ones I've seen are just news feed organizers with, at best, single search topic capability04:53
geniiServer Message Block, or samba for a cute name04:53
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garfieldthomas__: if u install smb make shore u are connected behind a firewall.either people can find your pc easly to try to control it :D04:54
Jucatosmb... San Miguel Beer :)04:54
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geniithomas__: You can set up a samba shared directory in kubuntu by: K ..System Settings...Sharing04:55
thomas__k04:56
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geniithomas__: I normally make a user for samba called smbuser. Then whatever directory is shared to outside is owned by that user, and in the config file i map the username guest or bad usernames to it.04:59
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dykerfuck you05:00
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mattperry1976does anyone have experience with 'minicom'?05:00
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xp_killerits silent around heree05:01
xp_killermattperry1976: wat is minicom?05:02
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mattperry1976xp_killer: it is a direct serial client...for using zmodem etc05:02
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xp_killermattperry1976: wats a zmodem? its not a normal modem?05:03
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erich__how do i find out what drivers i need to use with ndiswrapper to get my netgear wireless adapter to work?05:04
mattperry1976xp_killer: it's like the old school file transfer service etc05:04
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erich__anyone?05:05
stdinerich__: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper05:05
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syntethhi!05:06
emilsedgh!hi | synteth05:08
ubotusynteth: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!05:08
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trzcionekHi, I need something to RSS on desktop...05:09
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emilsedghtrzcionek: you need an rss reader? Akregator is nice, also there are some Karamba's05:11
stdintrzcionek: look on kde-look.org I'm sure there are superkaramba applets for it (you'll need to install superkaramba too I think)05:11
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mattperry1976I am trying to find the serial path for use with zmodem in kubuntu...05:13
erich__how do i find the usbid for my wireless adapter?05:13
stdinerich__: lsusb05:15
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erich__stdin: doesn't show it because i guess it doesn't recognize the device05:16
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stdinit _should_ show the vendor-id:device-id even if it doesn't recognise it I think05:17
BluesKajgents , I've compiled, installed and run pidgin , but i prefer kopete , so how does one uninstall a complied application?05:19
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stdinBluesKaj: if you installed with "sudo make install" you normally do "sudo make uninstall"05:20
geniiBluesKaj: make clean or make dist-clean05:20
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genii(if uninstall is not in makefile)05:20
BluesKajcool , thx , stdin, genii :)05:21
BluesKajchecking05:21
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geniimattperry1976: does /dev/ttyusb0  exist?05:22
geniioops maybe wrong person05:22
Doctor_NickMATTHEW PERRY I LOVE YOU05:22
Doctor_NickSIGN MY ASS05:23
geniisomeone had a usb modem they wanted to know path for device, iirc05:23
Jucato!caps | Doctor_Nick05:23
ubotuDoctor_Nick: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.05:23
Jucato!language | Doctor_Nick05:23
ubotuDoctor_Nick: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.05:23
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brad_hey05:24
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brad_so I was messing with my monitor settings, and now my splash screen is a lower resolution05:24
mattperry1976genii: when I try to load that path in dolphin I get error mssg that it does not exist05:24
Doctor_Nicki am, of course, talking about my pet mule05:24
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brad_like it doesnt show all of the Nvidia splash logo05:25
brad_any idea where to change that resolution back to a normal size?05:25
brad_(when I change it in my profile it does not effect the login screen)05:25
geniimattperry1976: OK05:25
jhutchinsDoctor_Nick: mule != ass05:25
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JucatoDoctor_Nick: regardless. you have been warned05:25
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sleonhi people05:25
jhutchinsDoctor_Nick: mule == ass/donkey x horse05:25
sleoni want to upgrade from ubuntu base to kubntu05:26
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sleoni need sources.list05:26
Doctor_Nickoh no, not warned!05:26
sleoncan you tell me where to get recent repositories for the kubuntu ?05:26
jhutchinsJucato: sorry, need coffee05:26
stdinsleon: no you don't, just install kubuntu-desktop package05:26
sleonrepositories list05:26
jhutchins!easysources | sleon05:26
ubotusleon: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic05:26
xero_serverwho do i ask about vmware problems and kubuntu?05:26
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BluesKajyup , stdin , "sudo make uninstall" ,did the trick :)05:26
stdinsleon: ubuntu and kubuntu use the same sources05:26
sleonstdin: so you use the same repos as ubuntu does ?05:26
sleonstdin: thenk you very much :)))05:26
Jucatosleon: yes05:26
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jhutchinssleon: As stdin says, though, the same repos have kubuntu already.05:26
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sleonthats very cool :)))05:27
sleonthank you guys05:27
JucatoUbuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Edubuntu, Mythbuntu, Ubuntustudio05:27
stdinBluesKaj: that's why I tend to package my compiles, easy to remove them :)05:27
thomas__so what do you guys think is the best ssh client for windows?05:27
jhutchinsthomas__: putty05:27
BluesKajright stdin, makes sense :)05:27
JucatoBluesKaj: or you can use --prefix=somewhere_you_have_user_access05:27
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jhutchinsthomas__: It's pretty much the only one, because it does the job.05:28
JucatoBluesKaj: and separate src, build, and install directories for cleaner compiles and installaiton05:28
Jucatoinstallation*05:28
jthomasthomas__: putty for sure, or install Cygwin I guess05:28
thomas__jthomas: putty is just terminal though?05:28
BluesKajJucato, i just cd 'd to the folder did the uninstall05:28
jhutchinsthomas__: what do you want?05:29
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jthomasthomas__: well... it can do telnet and a few other things, but I don't think it can forward X... but SSH is generally terminal, so yes I guess so..05:29
JucatoBluesKaj: yeah, but  you had to use sudo, and probably it installed into system directories... but anyway...05:29
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mattperry1976genii: that is the format of path that I'm looking for, I just can't seem to find that path for a usb port...I'm trying to setup a zmodem via minicom...05:30
thomas__jthomas: i tried using "ssh user@domain" method and it so much hassle05:30
xero!bot05:30
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots05:30
BluesKajwell Jucato , just happy to be rid of it ...din't see it with konq locate so i assumed it wasn't in the systen dirs05:30
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thomas__jthomas: finding the directory names using scp05:30
xero!vmware05:30
geniimattperry1976: What is the make and model of your usb modem? May be different tty name05:30
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers05:30
JucatoBluesKaj: locate needs to be updated for it to locate new stuff :)05:31
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xero!virtualizers05:31
ubotuThere are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications05:31
JucatoBluesKaj: it's like desktop indexing/search like Beagle/Kerry, but less automatic05:31
BluesKajok05:31
jthomasthomas__: hassle how?  yes scp can be difficult to find directory names.  Try using SFTP, its easier, and Windows has FileZilla for a graphical SFTP05:31
beansbe careful with vmware-player,  it phones home05:31
BluesKajsudo apt-get update konqueror ?05:31
jthomasbeans: it does?!05:31
jthomashow do you know?05:31
beanswireshark05:32
jthomasof course05:32
jthomaswhay does it do that?05:32
jthomaswhich port?05:32
JucatoBluesKaj: no. sudo updatedb to update locate's database/index05:32
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jhutchinsthomas__: You can store profiles if you need something more WIMPy.05:32
thomas__what about winscp05:33
mattperry1976genii: it shows up when I use lsusb...it shows up looking like "Bus 004 Device 004: ID 9710:7703 MosChip Semiconductor"05:33
geniiOK 1 minute05:33
jhutchinsthomas__: You're really asking for information on Windows clients for accessing real systems, ##windows might be more help.05:34
thomas__jthomas: I just want to be able to transfer some files remotely from thsi computer to another. Is Putty much better or really different that Winscp05:34
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geniibah vendorID 9710 deviceID 7703 does not seem to exist :/   LOL05:35
SlimeyPetethomas__: that's like saying "is this Ferrari a better car than this potato?" :) Putty and Winscp do different things. Putty is not a file transfer program.05:36
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erich__thomas__: puTTy and winscp do different things as far as i understand05:38
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jthomasthomas__: I don't know anything about Winscp, try asking in #windows05:38
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erich__thomas__: you can use puTTy to ssh to your linux machine and browse the filesystem/control that computer. you use Winscp just to snag files off of it05:39
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thomas__erich__: ohhh05:39
thomas__erich__: do you know if windows comes with scp05:40
jhutchinsputty includes scp/sftp functions.05:40
erich__thomas__: i'm pretty sure you need to download winscp05:40
thomas__erich__: linux does right, so I could putty into my linux machine and use integrated scp05:40
jhutchinsthomas__: Why are you asking these questions in #kubuntu?05:40
thomas__jhutchins: ok sorry05:40
SlimeyPetethomas__: windows doesn't come with scp05:40
SlimeyPete.05:40
erich__thomas__: i don't know a whole lot about windows. i just use it to play video games these days05:41
jhutchinsWindows does not play nice with other OSs.05:41
thomas__jhutchins: i don't know any other channels :D05:41
jhutchinsthomas__: Ah.  As several of us said, ##windows05:41
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jhutchins(A decent client will open the channel if you double-click that highlighted word.)05:41
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mattperry1976genii: sorry got booted from the net...took a sec to reconnect...05:46
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geniimattperry1976: np,didn't miss much :)05:49
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Baccilus;p05:50
Baccilushello05:50
Baccilusi need some help?05:50
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BaccilusSysinfo for 'Underground': Linux 2.6.20-16-generic running KDE 3.5.7, CPU: Intel(R)Core2CPUT7200@2.00GHz at 1000 MHz (3994 bogomips), , RAM: 699/1010MB, 156 proc's, 31.33min up05:50
jhutchinsxp_killer: well, that'll certainly teach us a lesson...05:50
emilsedghBaccilus: go on, if someone knows about your problem, will help05:51
Jucato!ask | Baccilus05:51
ubotuBaccilus: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:51
xp_killerlol05:51
Baccilussomething is running wrong with my Kubuntu.I have a dual-core 2.0 Ghz and is so slow..05:51
Baccilus;p05:51
Baccilusi guess i might did something wrong05:52
Baccilusi came again here and asked05:52
JucatoO.o why the fork is my swap being used?05:52
stdinxp_killer: you do know that everyone in here are volunteers? and that you aren't entitled expect *any* level of help...05:52
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Baccilusis there anyway i find out why is this?05:53
xp_killerstdin: ok05:53
geniimattperry1976: On the sticker or so on the modem itseld, what exactly does it say it's called?05:53
jhutchinsBaccilus: It's a little tough for a new user, but take a look at top in a console, see what's using resources.05:53
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Baccilusi have 156 proc's05:54
Baccilusbut again05:54
Bacciluswhat can be wrong05:54
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Baccilusthe last time i installed Ubuntu.. it was so fast.05:54
Baccilus;p05:54
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Baccilusnow it's slow05:54
BluesKajBaccilus, pls don't use the enter for punctuation05:54
Baccilushm05:55
geniiHmm no ping on mattperry197605:55
BaccilusI have to say that im sure this is not normal even if im new user.05:55
mattperry1976genii: there is no actual modem...I'm trying to flash an fta viewsat box and it uses zmodem...in windows there was a simple loader that sent the files etc, but now that I'm trying my best to let go of xp, I can't find the path to that port to use in minicom...lol...and I don't want to have to go back to xp etc05:56
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Jucatoxp_killer: we have better things to do than that05:56
Baccilusur talking about me now? :/05:56
Jucatobut you should stil behave05:57
BluesKajno05:57
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Baccilusok, can you give me some hints what shall i do and i will go through it?05:58
xp_killerJucato: lol05:58
geniimattperry1976: Ah OK.that is much clearer then.05:58
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geniimattperry1976: I need to go do some errands so will be away for a while. But can still pursue this later if you like05:59
mattperry1976genii: sorry...do you need the id line from lsusb ?...sure, I'll be on...thanks for your time and willingness to help05:59
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geniiok06:00
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xp_killerJucato: alt+F2 for the run command.when i tye kdesu ... what do i have to type when i'm i gnome?06:01
Jucatogksudo (or gksu)06:01
stdinthe !kdesu factoid also has that info06:02
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BluesKajBaccilus, it's very difficult to know what's causing your problem. Is it a new install, did you install some new apps recently ..which apps are slow etc..06:02
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xp_killerJucato: ok06:02
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Jucatostdin: getting tired are we? :)06:03
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stdinJucato: nah, but it helps if users know where to get the info if you're not here :p06:03
jhutchinsBaccilus: One thing to do is turn off ipv606:03
jhutchinsBaccilus: You don't seem to have told us what is slow about your system.06:04
Jucatohahah :)06:04
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xp_killerlol06:04
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jm87hi06:04
BluesKaj!hi | jm8706:05
ubotujm87: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!06:05
BaccilusBluesKaj: yes it's a new install, i first installed Ubuntu and then installed KDE because i had a problem with installing Kubuntu Dvd.Well is this on your opinion good? RAM: 701/1010MB, 153 proc's > My comp is really slow jhutchins.When i logon it takes about 3 minutes to show me the background and 1-2 minutes to load a program06:05
jhutchinsOk, slow program loading is a specific.06:05
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Dr_willisWhat CPU is this?06:06
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jm87how i can configure wine to show me and run windows program like dev c++06:06
jhutchinsBaccilus: first thing i would do is reboot with the command sudo shutdown -F -r now06:06
BaccilusDr_willis: CPU: Intel(R)Core2CPUT7200@2.00GHz at 1000 MHz (3994 bogomips)06:06
BluesKajjm87, kubuntu feisty06:06
BluesKaj?06:06
jm87yes06:06
Dr_willisNormally if you install somthing with wine, it normally adds a icon to the menus. Of course with wine. its often BEST to run wine whatever.exe from the termional. to see any error messages, and dependng on the program some wine arguments may be needed.06:07
Dr_willisSo a Intel Core 2, 1 gb ram.. Gee... thats a decent box for linux.06:07
jhutchinsBaccilus: Please try the above and tell us if it helped at all.06:07
Dr_willisSounds almost like a hard drive/ide/sata/hdma issue06:07
Baccilusok06:07
Baccilusbrb06:08
jhutchinsOh- didn't say what it'll do: reboot and check the disks.06:08
Dr_willisI wonder if 'dmesg' would be showing any errors or other issues.06:08
jm87do you know if exist some c++  compiler for linux ?06:08
JucatoC++ compiler? GCC (g++)06:08
Dr_willis!info gcc06:08
ubotugcc: The GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.2-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 5 kB, installed size 64 kB06:08
JucatoIDE? KDevelop, Anjuta06:09
Dr_willisproberly some others out there also. :) but gcc would be the standard one.06:09
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BluesKajjm87, did you install wine from system settings/advanced/windows applications06:09
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=== Jucato shrugged bloodshed dev c++ years ago.. never expected how popular it would become :)
Dr_willisi cant handle C either. :)06:12
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Dr_willisIll stick with REXX ! :)06:12
Jucatoadd ++ and /me would most probably think06:12
Jucatobah stupid paste06:12
Jucatohm.. REXX just read about that yesterday06:12
jm87im going to use c++ for university and on university web site there is wrote that the program is used is dev c++4.9 like  c++ editor i want to know if exist dev c++ version for kubuntu06:12
Dr_willisI learned it ages ago on my amiga. Still handy for some stuff i do.06:12
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AnthraXok im back06:13
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jm87_plz answer mw plz06:14
Baccilusthat's how long it took me to reboot and login back again06:14
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Baccilusyes Dr_willis that's what Im wondering..As i first installed Ubuntu before 4 months i was excited of the speed i had.My laptop was working so good..06:15
xp_killerstdin: i forgot how i install realplayer do i add this "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main" to a konsole?because it doesnt say were06:15
xp_killersorry06:16
stdinjm87_: Jucato already did,  KDevelop and Anjuta are both IDEs that can be used to edit c++ code.06:16
Jucatojm87_: and for simple C++ programming, you can also use Kate06:16
stdinxp_killer: to your /etc/apt/sources.list06:16
xp_killerok06:16
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Dr_willisBaccilus,  try some live cds yet?06:17
Bacciluswell the cd i installed is the same..06:18
jm87_and to compile it ho i can06:18
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BaccilusDr_willis:  maybe there is a problem when i installed KDE ?06:18
Jucatojm87_: when using Kate? you use the command line. g++ filename.cpp -o executable_filename06:19
Baccilusah also i have another problem Dr_willis06:19
stdinjm87_: I know in kdevelop you can tell it to build it for you, or you can just use g++ from the command line06:19
Dr_willisBaccilus,  try some OTHER live cds i ment :)06:19
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jm87_ah i undersatnd06:19
Dr_willislike dsl/puppy/knoppix06:19
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Baccilusehm06:19
Dr_willisis this a laptop Baccilus ?06:19
Baccilusyes06:20
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Dr_willisick.. could be all sorts of funkyness then. :)06:20
Dr_willisMy old laptop was all confsed  when it came out.. the clocks even ran at 2x normal speeds. :)06:21
Baccilusahh that good06:21
jm87_some one knows the date of sale of new kubuntu relase ?06:22
Baccilusthe last time06:22
Baccilusi messed up sudo code06:22
Baccilus:/06:22
arunhey kids06:22
geniiIf you are buying it somewhere you are going to wrong place to get it06:22
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Jucato!gutsy | jm87_06:22
ubotujm87_: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+106:22
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Baccilusand messed up all the lappy06:22
Baccilussometime i guess i will have it run normally06:23
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jm87_but i have kubuntu7.04 i can update to ubuntu7.10+06:24
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Jucatoyum!06:26
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Jucatolumpia! :)06:26
geniiJucato: The guy at restaurant next door makes me spring rolls every day LOL06:26
Jucatofor free? O.o06:27
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geniiJucato: Free lunch from him on the day I help him with garbage takeout, Thurs. Otherwise not. Yummy tho06:28
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Jucatohaha! :)06:28
Jucatonice kuy06:28
Jucatoer. guy06:28
genii:)06:28
geniimattperry1976: Still around ?06:29
mattperry1976genii: yep06:29
guhhhhelloooooooooo06:29
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guhhhi cant load an app... where can i look for logs related to it? syslog shows me nothing06:29
geniimattperry1976: OK, maybe if you can pastebin for me results of: ls -l /dev/bus/usb/*06:30
LogicalDashSometimes the KDE help center shows up when I turn my touchpad on. That's kind of weird.-06:30
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LogicalDashguhhh, you could try running it in a terminal window06:30
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geniimattperry1976: You know how to use pastebin website, yes?06:31
mattperry1976genii: no06:31
sergiohello06:31
genii!pastebin | mattperry197606:31
ubotumattperry1976: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:31
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geniimattperry1976: Copy and paste the results of that command into the website. then report back here the URL so can go view it06:32
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mattperry1976genii: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37328/plain/06:34
xp_killerliu06:34
geniimattperry1976: OK, looking now06:34
liuyes, xp_killier06:35
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geniimattperry1976: That is not the output of: ls -l /dev/bus/usb/*       that is the output of the lsusb command.06:35
stdinguhhh: depends on the app, and _if_ it actually keeps logs06:35
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guhhhstdout thanks06:36
guhhhlol06:36
guhhh;P06:36
geniimattperry1976: We have got what we can from the lsusb command :) Please post results of the:      ls -l /dev/bus/usb/*         command06:36
guhhhstandart in, standart out06:36
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guhhhpleaaase.06:37
guhhh./googleearth-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libXcursor.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory06:38
guhhh:-(06:38
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stdinguhhh: well, looks like you need to install the package with that file in06:38
stdin!away > Makthus|Away06:38
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Jucatoguhhh: install libxcursor-dev06:39
Makthus|Awayok pardon :)06:39
Makthus|Awayle ferait plus06:39
guhhhapt-file search libXcursor.so.106:39
guhhhapt-file search libXcursor.so.1 ?06:39
Jucatoer06:39
Jucatolibxcursor106:39
Jucatosorry. install libxcursor106:39
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stdinguhhh: well, you can '/msg ubotu find libXcursor.so.1' or look on http://packages.ubuntu.com/ too06:39
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mattperry1976genii: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37329/plain/06:40
xp_killerstdin: lol bot problems?lol06:40
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stdinxp_killer: no, why ?06:41
thomas__how do I stop my ssh server?06:41
geniimattperry1976: Thx, reading06:41
guhhh/etc/init.d/sshd stop ?06:41
xp_killer!away06:41
ubotuYou should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines06:41
thomas__guhhh: wow how do u know exactly06:41
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xp_killeroh06:42
guhhhthomas__: u do this for every service/daemon06:42
Jucatojust ssh (not sshd) I think06:42
stdin^ yep06:42
guhhhi dont remember exactly :P06:42
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Jucatothomas__: most services/daemons can be found in /etc/init.d/06:43
rambo3do you have any gutsy kde 4 backports ?06:43
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rambo3!info kde4 gutsy06:43
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Jucatorambo3: please read the topic06:43
ubotuPackage kde4 does not exist in gutsy06:43
stdinrambo3: it's in universe, there are no backports in gutsy06:43
geniimattperry1976: If you feel like experimenting, you can try /dev/bus/usb/004/002      as the modem device06:43
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rambo3stdin: thanks06:44
thomas__Jucato: i see......i just used winscp on my windows computer to log in and transfer files using sftp...isn't my server an ftp server?06:44
rambo3Jucato: not the issue06:44
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Jucatorambo3: what's not the issue?06:44
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liuwhat happens wiht limewire?,may you give us some information?06:45
Jucatothomas__: don't really know. sorry06:45
Jucato!limewire | liu06:45
liuyes jucato06:45
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ubotuliu: limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.06:45
stdinthomas__: sftp is not ftp, it used ssh06:45
rambo3Jucato: just read my question and your answer06:45
thomas__i mean when you install an ssh server isn't that just ftp over ssh protocol06:45
ackbahrHi there! I've got this strange problem; using adept yesterday, I noticed Feisty Fawn was available (cheers!), and I started but then cancelled the upgrade; now, it still tells me there a new distr, but it won't install!06:45
Jucatorambo3: did you see the last link in the topic?06:45
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beojanLime wire should not be used06:47
beojanexit06:47
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Jucatough! you do it stdin...06:48
mattperry1976genii: sorry didn't work...06:48
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neptunafishIs there a way to recover a printed document? I didn't save it, and I lost the hard copy...06:48
stdinheh k06:48
liui can not install limewire06:48
neptunafish!frostwire | liu06:49
ubotuliu: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire06:49
Jucatostdin: I just quieted him.. but by nick instead of domain...06:49
xp_killerstdin: wat should i do if theres no sound and kaffeine is not launchin?06:49
liuok06:49
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stdinheh06:51
Jucatosorry stdin...06:51
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stdinit's ok Jucato, as long as we were both doing the same thing06:51
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xp_killerstdin: wat should i do if theres no sound and kaffeine is not workin?06:53
GuHHHi like caffeine06:53
GuHHHgimme some06:53
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stdin!sound > xp_killer06:53
liuthank ubotu06:54
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Jucato!thanks | liu06:55
ubotuliu: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)06:55
liufrostwire install06:55
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DaSkreech!frostwire | liu06:55
ubotuliu: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire06:55
liualready06:55
coreymon77DaSkreech: isnt frostwire on apt?06:56
BluesKajKMLDonkey is much safer than frostwire , but harder to setup06:56
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ksivaji<BluesKaj>  my system is alright now hu hu06:56
stdincoreymon77: nope06:56
GuHHH!coffee06:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about coffee - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:56
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geniiback06:57
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BluesKajksivaji, got it working ok eh ..good :)06:57
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ksivaji<genii> my system is alright now hu hu06:57
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geniiksivaji: Good :)06:57
DaSkreechcoreymon77: Doubt it06:57
coreymon77oh06:57
coreymon77i thought it was06:58
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coreymon77anyways, it is in a deb06:58
SlimeyPeteI already have Pepsi, and... erm, I'm not sure what this other drink is because the label's in Japanese06:58
coreymon77so thats easy06:58
geniistdin: How'd ya guess06:58
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coreymon77liu: download the ubuntu deb file from the frostwire website06:58
stdinmakes sense :)06:58
ksivajiwhy i cant login to freenod server from my college system ,("server refused to connect" ) ?06:58
DaSkreechksivaji: They hate you?06:59
geniidarn. boss keeps messaging me from upstairs LOL. away a while06:59
ksivajiDaSkreech why ?06:59
coreymon77ksivaji: does your school block a lot of stuff?06:59
ksivajicoreymon77 college  is not equal to school07:00
ksivaji:p07:00
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stdinooh, I see ban evasion ^07:00
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mattperry1976genii: got any other ideas?07:01
coreymon77ksivaji: you know what i mean07:01
ksivajino i cant get you07:01
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marco_hi everybopdy07:01
ksivaji!hi07:02
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!07:02
coreymon77ksivaji: a college is still a school07:02
marco_I installed phpmyadmin with adept07:02
wckdkl0wnchecking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables07:02
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marco_how can I use it?07:02
coreymon77ksivaji: anyways07:02
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ksivajicoreymon77 ya sometimes07:02
coreymon77ksivaji: does you COLLEGE block alot of stuff?07:02
coreymon77because that would explain it07:02
ksivajiya they block including orkut07:02
wckdkl0wnhow do i make C compiler make executables07:02
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wckdkl0wnchecking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables07:02
stdin!compile | wckdkl0wn07:03
ubotuwckdkl0wn: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)07:03
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ironfroggyim configure a windows file share from the control panel, but after entering all the information in, hitting OK seems to do nothing at all. the dialog is still open and everything.07:04
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marco_hi people07:05
xp_killer!nfs07:05
ubotunfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.07:05
marco_I have a big problem now07:05
marco_so I hope somebody can help me07:05
marco_I'm moving to china tomorrow and there there is alot of censorship on websites, including wikipedia07:05
marco_how can I surf these websites?07:06
marco_is tor somehow useful?07:06
DaSkreechvery carefully :)07:06
ironfroggyxp_killer: was that for me?07:06
marco_no, I mean07:06
SlimeyPeteI believe the standard method is to use Tor, but this isn't really a discussion for #kubuntu ;)07:06
DaSkreechyou can probably proxy out of it07:06
marco_how?07:06
stdinmarco_: I'd suggest you google about, I'm sure there are a few ways to do it07:06
marco_I tried07:06
marco_no way07:06
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marco_I googled it but no way07:07
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marco_why is shouldn't that be legal uh?07:07
marco_I am an european citizen and I cannot even surf the U.N website, o07:07
marco_or myspace, or wikipedia07:07
stdinbecause it's illegal in china to bypass the chinese firewall...07:07
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marco_oh shit07:08
stdin!language07:08
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.07:08
marco_I don't think is not legal if u are a foreigner uh07:08
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marco_oh, true07:08
marco_sorry07:08
marco_excuse me everybody07:08
marco_I'm just abit desperate07:08
marco_sorry again07:08
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stdinyeah, rules of the land you're in take presidents over your home laws07:08
GuHHH!pointing07:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pointing - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:08
lazz0china ftw :)07:08
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lazz0isnt answers.com clone of wikipedia?07:08
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xp_killerironfroggy: lol no me07:09
marco_what ftw means?07:09
GuHHHlazz0: no07:09
marco_really?07:09
ironfroggyxp_killer: ok i was gonna say i am not using nfs07:09
marco_is that any site similar to wikipedia?07:09
marco_or can I surf wikipedia locally?07:09
lazz0check it out07:09
marco_download it here and surf it on my pc?07:09
ironfroggyi really dont want to try and craft the samba mounting in fstab by hand again07:09
ironfroggyi lsost my fstab backup :-(07:09
DaSkreechmarco_: try ##linux07:09
marco_uh?07:10
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DaSkreechmarco_: actually yes you can download wikipedia07:10
ksivajiis there any command to find  dependency of a deb package07:10
marco_DaSkreech: how?07:10
stdinksivaji: apt-cache depends <package>07:10
DaSkreechhttp://digg.com/tech_news/Download_WikiPedia07:11
ksivajiok07:11
DaSkreechhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_download07:11
marco_just a question07:11
marco_XML format can be seen thru a normal boser?07:12
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marco_like mozilla or konqueror07:12
xp_killerironfroggy: lol07:12
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SlimeyPetemarco_: yes but it probably won't make a lot of sense to you07:12
DaSkreechmarco_: most modern browsers yes07:12
DaSkreech I think that IE is better at it than most07:12
marco_so what do u suggest me to use to surf it?07:12
DaSkreechmarco_: ask in ##linux07:13
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marco_....07:13
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DaSkreechmarco_: Surf what?07:13
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marco_surf wikipedia offline?07:14
lazz0marco_, did you see answers.com?07:14
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marco_btw I am in this page http://download.wikimedia.org/07:14
arashHi,  I have two computers connected through D-Link and both has internet, how can I simply copy a file from one computer to another?07:14
marco_where should I download07:14
marco_@lazz: I am checking it07:14
marco_thank you so much dude07:14
DaSkreechenwiki I think07:14
DaSkreechthere was a KDE app to do it07:14
DaSkreechKnowledge I think it was called07:15
SlimeyPetearash: scp07:15
SlimeyPete!scp07:15
ubotuSCP is a secure way of copying files across networks using !SSH. Usage: scp filename user@host:filename - WinSCP is a client for Windows, available at http://winscp.net/07:15
marco_answers,com is cool07:16
marco_thank u a lot07:16
lazz0have fun07:16
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marco_knowledge?07:18
marco_Iam searching for it07:18
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aantipop is it possible to turn of the explosion-like animations when klicking stuff on the desktop or in the kicker ?07:19
aantipop*turn off07:19
arashSlimeypete , If I want to send a file to this comp, and the terminal on this comp (let call comp X) has name arash@HEMPC2007 , did I do correct if I on other computer wrote 'scp fileoncompY arash@HEMPC2007 filetocreateoncompX' ?07:20
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SlimeyPetearash: you will probably need to use the IP address instead of "HEMPC2007"07:21
SlimeyPetebut otherwise, yes07:21
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arashSlimeyPete , ok, isn't that exploitable+07:21
SlimeyPetearash: nah, not really07:21
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SlimeyPeteIP addresses are easy to find anyway, and scp is quite secure.07:22
arashhmm, which IP adress? the 192.168.0.10x something?07:22
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SlimeyPetearash: yes, that sounds right.07:22
arashhow do I find that one out :p?07:22
DaSkreechYou have a Hemp Computer?07:23
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arashno :p, what is that?07:23
aantipopifconfig07:23
SlimeyPetearash: ifconfig07:23
arashman, what don't they simply have ipconfig XD ?07:23
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DaSkreechDunno I just swung around and saw HEMPC 200707:23
stdinaantipop: I think it's: system settings > keyboard & mouse > mouse and un-check "visual feedback on activation"07:24
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arashhem=home in swedish :)07:24
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thomas__what's kubuntu's device manager07:24
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thomas__my dvd burning is not working07:24
aantipopstdin: thanks, didnt find it myself07:24
Jucatostdin: your turn :)07:25
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stdinJucato: sweet dreams of pink ponies :p07:25
Jucatoheheh07:25
Jucatono originality07:25
stdinahh, it was all I could copy and paste at such short notice :)07:26
Jucatolol07:26
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thomas__what's kubuntu's device manager07:27
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arashit says connection refused :( , and I added port myIP port 22 TCP 'n' UDP on DLink07:28
aantipopis it possible to use the mouse-pointer loading theme when i start a application and not the bouncing icon ?07:28
arashthe other ocmputer is Ubuntu and this is Kubuntu, does that matter?07:28
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stdinarash: you need to have ssh installed on the one receiving the file(s), or you can use the Public File Server applet for kicker07:29
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BluesKajthomas__, kubuntu uses system settings or kcontrol for device management07:30
arashopenssh-server?07:30
arash!find openssh07:31
ubotuFound: openssh-client, openssh-server07:31
stdinarash: yeah, but the package "ssh" installs the server07:31
arashstdin:  ah great, do I have to start it or?07:31
stdinarash: no, once it's installed it will start up07:32
stdinarash: the 1st time you try to connect it will say it can't verify the host, that's ok, just type in "yes" and press enter07:33
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arashI can't send folder :p argh! , oh well, seems to work :)07:33
arashstdin:  cool! that exactly happend to me :)07:33
thomas__BluesKaj: but I can't find for example drivers that I have for my cd drive07:34
stdinarash: sure you can send folders, use scp -r folder user@host:/place/to/put/folder :)07:34
arashstdin:  darn knowitall :p07:35
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arashcan you do this to othercomputers through internet?07:36
fkmIs there a way to make Konquerors FTP client connect to SFTP servers?07:36
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stdinarash: yeah, oh and want a GUI? open konqueror and use sftp://user@host :D07:37
BluesKajthomas__,  kubuntu doesn't recognize your cd drive ?07:37
thomas__i gueses not i don't know07:37
thomas__i tried burning gavve me an error07:38
arashNo, just because you said that :p (jk, thaks , a GUI is great)07:38
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thomas__BluesKaj: ok I recognizes a cd but doesn't show any folders or files07:39
arashstdin:  hmm, I send from the Ubuntu, does Nautilus handle sftp protocol?07:39
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thomas__BluesKaj: wait nm07:40
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stdinarash: not sure, never use gnome. but I would think that it does07:40
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mattperry1976genii: that test didn't work...got any other ideas?07:41
[nrx] Can anyone suggest why apt-get is resolving all download hosts to 1.0.0.0?07:41
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arashhmm, I realized the root password is quite important to keep secret07:42
stdinarash: well yes, but seeing as k/ubuntu have root disabled that won't be a difficult secret to keep :P07:43
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arashstdin: uh, OK , even though I didn't understand :)07:44
ShaneNWhy isn't php5-mssql included in the sources?07:44
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stdin!root | arash07:45
ubotuarash: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo07:45
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stdin!info php5-mysql | ShaneN07:45
ubotushanen: php5-mysql: MySQL module for php5. In component main, is optional. Version 5.2.1-0ubuntu1.4 (feisty), package size 63 kB, installed size 240 kB07:45
stdinShaneN: it is07:45
NickPrestaShaneN, mssql?07:45
mattperry1976genii: here is the link that shows me how to setup minicom for what I'm trying to do http://forum.db-sat.eu/index.php?topic=1506.msg436907:46
llutz[nrx] : check your nameserver07:46
[nrx] it's fine07:46
[nrx] llutz: it's only apt-get that's having that issue.. nslookup returns all addresses perfectly.07:47
ShaneNNickPresta: mssql as in MS-SQL, as in Microsoft SQL Server :)07:47
NickPrestaShaneN, I'm aware of what it is. Why would you think the repos would have that?07:47
ironfroggyive added cifs mounts to fstab, with the rw option, but when i mount them im told "block device ... is write protected"07:48
ShaneNNickPresta: Because other distros do :)07:48
ironfroggybut why would it be? im giving credentials for a user that can write to the location on the server.07:48
geniimattperry1976: That site shows them using a normal serial port eg: ttyS007:48
stdinShaneN: then request it added to multiverse (as it's probably non-free)07:48
DaSkreechfkm: just use sftp07:48
DaSkreecharash: Do you know what root is?07:49
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ShaneNstdin: It appears it was requested back in May: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2699953&postcount=1507:49
arashDaSkreech:  On trees :p ?07:49
arashDaSkreech:  well, i would guess the administrator task thingies...07:50
mattperry1976genii: when I did this in windows, I set it up as serial port 4 and it worked just fine...it's these little things that make me want to go back to windows, just because it takes 2 seconds rather than 2 weeks of research and still no solution...lol07:50
DaSkreecharash: Binary trees?07:50
geniimattperry1976: You don't have on the motherboard a DB9 connector??07:50
DaSkreecharash: Yes under UNIX all users are given rights and restrictions to files etc. EXCEPT for the special user "root" who has no restrictions07:50
DaSkreechSo if something goes horribly wrong root can fix it07:51
WhtWolfTeraDyneI'm hoping someone will know the answer to this problem. I installed the "kubuntu-desktop" package so I could get KDE after losing my last install, but when I go through the setup, kpersonalizer crashes. If I try to restart KDM and log in again, it hangs on "Loading Window Manager". Any ideas on what to do?07:51
geniimattperry1976: Because then you only need a null-modem cable direct from there to the box you are trying to program07:51
DaSkreechhowever sine he has no restrictions if someone malicious becomes root he can cause great harm07:51
ironfroggyis there anything i need to install to make cifs mounts work properly?07:51
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mattperry1976genii: yes, but I have been told that linux is this miraculous os that can duplicate anything in windows, and I'm finding that to be false07:52
ChousukeIt's not supposed to duplicate windows.07:52
Chousukewhoever told you that was lying07:52
geniiChousuke: ditto07:52
WhtWolfTeraDynemattperry1976: I'd love to get a hold of whoever told you that and show them how wrong they are07:52
DaSkreechmattperry1976: Who told you that? Get him to show the blue screen of Moaning an death!!!07:52
DaSkreechmattperry1976: In anycase what do you want to get done?07:53
arashmattperry1976 , it has terrible disadvantages in automation (for noobs like me), but KDE is worth it :p07:53
Chousukeautomation? :/07:53
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Chousukeyou mean things it does for you throught a GUI?07:53
Chousuke-t07:53
Chousukewell, I suppose.07:53
arashwell, I mean more of detecting hardware07:53
Chousukehmmh07:54
Chousukenever had trouble with that :)07:54
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arashwhich is really really really tedious if you have a new computer, I usually recommend to wait on installing linux to friends if they have new computers07:54
stdinShaneN: well, if you need it now there's a deb on the bug page (you should also comment on the page) https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/+bug/8706307:54
mattperry1976I'm trying to send files to my fta sat box using minicom...which sounds simple enough, but I can't get linux (kubuntu gutsy) to tell me the serial path for one of my usb drives...any help would be appreciated07:55
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ShaneNstdin: I get errors when trying to install that deb about the version of php5-common not being the right version (mine is newer). Is there a way to have it ignore that?07:56
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stdinShaneN: there is, but it probably wouldn't work when installed. you can try if you want?07:57
ShaneNstdin: Meh...07:57
ironfroggyis anyone else using a cifs line in fstab here?07:57
devianceI can seem to change Icons or Device names for my mobile phone, any ideas why?07:57
devianceIts plugged in the USB port07:57
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Dr_willisironfroggy,  i tend to use the smbfs, not cifs07:57
devianceI can access the data fine, its just naming and icon07:58
Dr_willisironfroggy,  isent cifs a subset of that? i forget :)07:58
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DexterFhi07:58
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DexterFwhere can I get the kubuntu kernel patches *standalone*, not already patched into the kernel src?07:58
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DexterFor: can I safely use a vanilla kernel?07:59
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llutzmattperry1976: using a usb-2-serial device? ports should be /dev/ttyUSBX (X= 0...15)07:59
ironfroggywhat package do i need for smbfs? i get bad fs on that.07:59
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Dr_willisironfroggy,  you may want to do some reading up on samba. it might be needed07:59
WhtWolfTeraDyne*thud* Ok, now I'm stumped. I can't find anything on KPersonalizer in Launchpad.07:59
BluesKajsamba. ironfroggy07:59
stdinDexterF: better to ask in #ubuntu-devel or #ubuntu-kernel for kernel questions07:59
Dr_willisI tend to use the fuse-smb stuff for my samba mounting needs07:59
Dr_willis!info samba-doc07:59
ubotusamba-doc: Samba documentation. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.24-2ubuntu1.2 (feisty), package size 6754 kB, installed size 14512 kB08:00
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ironfroggyah i see there is a smbfs package i didnt realize08:00
Dr_willisthe samba-doc package has 2 whole books on setting up samba and conecting to windows machines08:00
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Dr_willissmbfs is the FUSE SAMBA package. :) its what i use.08:00
DaSkreechmattperry; blast!!08:00
ironfroggyyeah ive read a good chunk of those books08:00
Dr_willisI make my local network appear on /home/username/Networkl with it08:00
ironfroggy but it was some years ago i set this up before08:00
ironfroggyand i had to migrate to a new box and i lost my fstab backup08:00
Dr_willishttp://www.swerdna.net.au/linhowtosambacifs.html08:00
Dr_willishas some examples.08:00
ironfroggythanks08:01
Dr_willisI always had issues with samba shares on widnows machines with spaces in the names. :)08:01
Dr_willisthe smbfs seems to work better for me.08:01
deviance!mounting08:01
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter08:01
devianceWhat is Mounting??08:01
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ironfroggyseriously?08:01
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Dr_willisMounting is taking a filesystem and puting it on the 'directory' tree structure so you can access it.08:02
stdindeviance: see this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_%28Unix%2908:02
devianceFor my mobile phone, should I have it mounted automaticly?08:02
WhtWolfTeraDyneI think I'm going to start up HydraIRC on my laptop and try installing the "kubuntu-desktop" package again.08:02
WhtWolfTeraDyne*on my desktop*08:02
Dr_willisIf a filesystem (like a hard drive) is not mounted.. you CANT access it.08:02
devianceAH ok, thanks.,08:02
devianceSo thats not a reason why I cant edit its name or icon then08:03
devianceWhy would that be?08:03
Dr_willisif the mobile phone is hooked up via USB cable. You might be able to access it as if it was a hard drive.08:03
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Dr_willisIf it  has that feature.08:03
devianceIt detects it as a camera08:03
devianceSo its displayed on my desktop08:03
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Dr_willisIt just sees it with image files.. so it thinks its a camera.08:04
Dr_willisits guessing. :)08:04
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Dr_willisand no  i dont know how to change it.. , never considered it a big deal.08:04
devianceWell, my mobile phone is just my memory card, which is a memory stick duo as you find in cameras08:04
devianceOkay, never mind then :P08:04
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Dr_willisif you plyug the card into a USB reader. it may use a different icon.08:04
notvhey guys what is LVM defined as?08:04
Dr_willisagain i dont consider it a big deal. :)08:05
notvis 160G considered LVM?08:05
Dr_willisLVM is  'logical volume manager' ...  Not sure what you are asking.08:05
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llutznotv: no, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_Volume_Manager08:05
notvoh08:05
[nrx] Can anyone suggest why apt-get is resolving all download hosts to 1.0.0.0? nslookup in konsole works but firefox doesn't seem to work with hostnames either. DNS is obviously broken but I don't know what to try08:05
notvi thought it was about large volumes..heh08:05
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Dr_willisit can be for VERY large volumes08:05
DaSkreech[nrx] : whats your DNS server ?08:05
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[nrx] the wireless router08:06
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notvwhats the benefit of using LVM/08:06
stdinnotv: depends what you're on about, but for filesystems, that's not large08:06
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newsense07hi all, im running feisty  and have just upgraded to amorok 1.4.7 and now under serrings>engine i have no engines to choose from, any help ?08:06
DaSkreech[nrx] : where does that get the DNS from ?08:06
Dr_willisnotv,  you can reize them easy. add more easy.. power user stuff. :)08:06
[nrx] isp :) lol08:06
notvhm08:06
notvthanks08:06
[nrx] it's not a network dns server issue, it's definately something i've done here08:07
[nrx] might be worth noting that i can only get the wireless connection up and running by using iwconfig08:07
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llutz[nrx] : have you set a (non-existent) proxy?08:07
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[nrx] llutz: no08:07
notvis there a better alternative to ndiswrapper?08:07
notvfor an atheros card08:08
llutznotv: native drivers, madwifi08:08
SlimeyPetenotv: atheros cards usually work with the madwifi drivers08:08
SlimeyPetemine does, for instance :)08:08
stdinnotv: if the madwifi drivers don't work then you'll have to use ndiswrapper08:08
notvis madwifi better?08:08
notvare they open-source?08:08
SlimeyPeteyes and yes08:08
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notvi dont really like the idea of XP drivers08:08
stdinwell, almost08:09
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newsense07anyone know what package im missing as i have upgraded to amarok 1.4.7 and have no engines anymore ?08:09
ironfroggyi switched to smbfs but even with the verified username and password im getting access denied when i try to mount08:09
stdinnewsense07: amarok-xine or amarok-engines ?08:10
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llutzSlimeyPete: the hal-part of madwifi is closed source08:10
newsense07stdin: thanks much ill try those08:10
SlimeyPetellutz: is it? oh right08:10
stdinSlimeyPete: it has to be, it's some fcc law08:10
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notvslimeypete can you tell me the easiest way to get madwifi, i dont think ill have gui up yet08:11
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shad-99anyone nows how to make gps bu-353 to work with kubuntu?08:12
BoneSolTeraDyneAlright, I'm still having the same problem, except that KPersonalizer doesn't even show up. It tries to go into kde, but hangs on "Loading the window manager". Any ideas?08:12
SlimeyPete!madwifi08:13
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs08:13
geniiback08:13
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SlimeyPetenotv: it "just worked" for me, as soon as I'd installed ubuntu08:14
BoneSolTeraDynegrr... Anyone know what log I can look at to see why KDE can't load the window manager?08:15
llutznotv: first make sure your wlan-card is supported by madwifi before trying to use it08:15
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aantipopBoneSolTeraDyne:   xorg.0.log ??08:16
aantipopBoneSolTeraDyne: talking about kwin or kdm or X ?08:17
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notvi have an atheros card08:17
BoneSolTeraDyneI think I found it. in /var/log/kdm.log, it's trying to load AIGLX for some reason...08:17
notvar50007eg08:17
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notvwhich one do you have slimeypete?08:18
BoneSolTeraDyne"(EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable" is the error it's throwing out.08:18
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BoneSolTeraDyneKwin still won't load, though. Maybe if I reconfigure Xorg and untick the DRI option...08:22
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funnelwebhi08:23
funnelwebich werds warscheinlih noch hundert mal fragen, sry08:23
emilsedgh!hi | funnelweb08:23
ubotufunnelweb: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!08:23
emilsedgh!de | funnelweb08:23
BoneSolTeraDyne!de | funnelweb08:23
ubotufunnelweb: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de08:23
kkathmanBoneSolTeraDyne:  there are some bugs in that system that cause those errors with certain ATI cards08:23
funnelwebsry08:23
funnelwebi forgot it^^08:24
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BoneSolTeraDynekkathman, There's one problem. I'm using an Nvidia card.08:24
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kkathmanBoneSolTeraDyne:  well could be something similar, Im saying08:24
geniibah keep forgetting to /away08:25
BoneSolTeraDynekkathman, Ok. Know of any fixes for it? I know GNOME, AfterStep, and FluxBox all work...08:25
kkathmanBoneSolTeraDyne:  which card and which driver are you attempting to use?08:25
geniiDid mattperry1976 get it sorted out for the usb modem etc? Curious08:25
BoneSolTeraDyne8300GS, nv driver.08:26
kkathmangenii:  not sure08:26
sleonhmm08:26
sleonhow to stop ubuntu from fingring on my xorg.conf ?08:27
sleoneach time it changes it and removes everything i add to it08:27
geniikkathman: Ok, thanks08:27
sleonit makes me mad08:27
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kkathmansleon:  to my knowledge ubuntu doesnt make changes to xorg unless you tell it to08:27
kkathmanits a file thats under sudo control in fact08:27
sleonkkathman: then what does this in my /var/log/user.log08:28
sleonmeans ??08:28
sleonSep 13 20:03:24 chefe python: Graphics card hardware has changed. Reconfiguring xorg.conf using 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'.08:28
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sleonand it removed stuff and moved my xorg.conf to xorg.conf12312312308:28
sleonand did it already two times08:29
kkathmansleon:  now I was just going to say...08:29
sleonkkathman: yes ?08:29
kkathmansleon:  if the kernel detects a change of hardware, it will attempt to resolve it08:29
sleonkkathman: and how to shut down this very very clever machnism ?08:29
kkathmanso each time you change the xorg.conf with the same hardware08:30
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kkathmanit will change it back08:30
sleonSep 13 20:03:26 chefe python: Writing graphics card hardware list to /var/lib/guidance/guidance-gfxhardware-snapshot08:30
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jessejazzaHi - i wanted to try one of the other window environments. I'm new to ubuntu and have now loaded KDE. Fluxbox and enlightenment aren't there so what repository are they on?08:30
sleonis there a way to stop this idiotic thing ?08:30
stdin!info fluxbox08:31
ubotufluxbox: Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.15.1+1.0rc2-1 (feisty), package size 899 kB, installed size 2888 kB08:31
kkathmansleon:  I would try to re run the xconfig xorg again and manually check the difference between the two08:31
stdin!info enlightenment08:31
ubotuenlightenment: The Enlightenment Window Manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.16.7.2-5 (feisty), package size 398 kB, installed size 1004 kB08:31
devianceWhats a good program to rip CD's?08:31
kkathmanthere's probably a good reason why its changing it08:31
kkathmandeviance:  k3b08:31
stdinjessejazza: both in universe08:31
kkathmanbrb08:31
geniiyup k3b08:31
sleonkkathman: the solution is08:32
sleonrc3.d/S20kde-guidance:  /usr/share/python-support/kde-guidance/displayconfig-hwprobe.py08:32
sleonrm -rf this stupid script08:32
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stdinsleon: until the package is upgraded...08:32
WhtWolfTeraDyneI just might wipe everything and reinstall with my Kubuntu CD...08:32
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WhtWolfTeraDyneXD, the disconnect left my other name online...08:33
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sleonok08:33
sleonany suggestion where to install mplayer from ?08:34
sleon!mplayer08:34
ubotumplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs08:34
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sleon!codecs08:34
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:34
amnesiac_hackershai folks08:34
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jessejazzathx stdin. I'm still learning my way around ubuntu. Tried KDE and XFCE and like them rather than the gnome08:35
Dr_willisinstall them all. :) thats what i do08:35
troi've got this nice "feature" in my installation, where i can log in as root from a text console without a password, but it's required for remote login, sudo/su, etc. is it supposed to be like this, or did i mess up something with pam's config?08:35
amnesiac_hackersubotu: can you help me i have trouble with tdfsb a 3d fileviewer08:35
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Dr_willistro,  sounds like a Huge security hole/mess up to me.08:35
stdin!bot > amnesiac_hackers08:35
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troDr_willis: yeah, me too. I fiddled a bit with pam.d's config files when setting up the fingerprint reader, but i can't recall which ones i changed08:36
devianceHow can I rip MP3 using k3b08:36
deviance?08:36
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amnesiac_hackerscan somebody help me i have trouble with tdfsb a 3d fileviewer08:36
Dr_willisdeviance,  not sure k3b can do that. I tend to use 'grip' to rip cd's to mp308:36
amnesiac_hackersit gives the eror output freeglut  ERROR:  Function <glutStrokeCharacter> called without first calling 'glutInit'.08:36
troDr_willis: is it possible that i maybe never set the password for root 'cause I only use sudo and by default the password is not required?08:36
Dr_willisThers also a dozen other tools out to do it :)08:37
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stdindeviance: you need libk3b2-mp3 installed08:37
Dr_willistro,  by default  root password does not exist.. that Not the same as 'not required' :)08:37
jmeHi everybody08:37
jokijowhats the best mp3 player for kubuntu?08:37
Dr_willisdirect logging in as root is disabled.08:37
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amnesiac_hackershi jme08:37
Dr_willisjokijo,  depends on your needs.. try them out. use whats best for you08:37
stdin!best | jme08:37
ubotujme: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.08:37
troDr_willis: ah, well, if i login as root, i can type anything and it lets me in08:38
stdin!players08:38
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs08:38
amnesiac_hackersjokijo: amarok08:38
Dr_willistro,  that sounds like a major issue. :)08:38
jokijothanks :)08:38
sleonhow is the utility to configure sound hardware under ubuntu is called ?08:38
troafter running passwd, it looks like i just never set a password, 'cause it didn't ask me to type in the previous one08:38
jokijoi just installed kubuntu last night, i'm still adjusting08:38
amnesiac_hackersjokijo: np08:38
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troDr_willis: logging in as root is disabled even from text consoles?08:39
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stdintro: we use "sudo -i" to get a root shell08:39
jmehi all, i'm juste starting with kubuntu, when the live cd boot it ask a me username and password, does anyone know what are this user/passwd?08:39
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arashsleon, I really need to know that too !08:39
amnesiac_hackerstro: use the sudo commands08:39
hermit!codecs08:40
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:40
stdinjme: it shouldn't ask you for one, it goes straight to the desktop08:40
sleon!hardware08:40
ubotuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport08:40
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sleon!hardwareconfig08:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hardwareconfig - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:40
sleon!sex08:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sex - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:40
trostdin: i know, but i don't want anyone to be able to just type in "root" on my machine and login as root08:40
sleonhmm08:40
sleon!hardware+sex08:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hardware+sex - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:40
troright now, that's the case08:40
stdin!botabuse > sleon08:40
Dr_willistro,  sounds like you broke Pam. :)08:40
arashsleon , you can pm ubotu!!!!!!!!!, stop stpamming08:40
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sleon ok ok :)08:41
amnesiac_hackerssleon: hardware+sex is cyber-dildo08:41
stdintro: they need to be in the admin group to use it, only the 1st user is by default08:41
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arashjme , are you in the LiveCD desktop now?08:41
trostdin: right now, ANYONE can type in "root" as login at the text shell and press enter and it lets them in08:41
Dr_willisthe new iVibe08:41
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Dr_willistro,  you mean the 'console' :)08:41
amnesiac_hackershahahahaha08:42
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Dr_willistry sshing in. :) it may be worse then you thought08:42
troDr_willis: yeah. the console that pops up after pressing ctrl+alt+f1, for example08:42
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stdintro: they can only do it if they have sudo rights, ie: are in the admin group...08:42
Dr_willistro,  that is known as the 'console' :)08:42
jmenot yet only a user password interface :s08:42
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Dr_willistro,  you should of backed up your Pam config/whtever files befor messing with them. :)08:42
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stdintro: unless you set a root pass then just removed the password...08:43
jmei've change the root password from a console but it don't allow root log in08:43
stdin!ot | sleon08:43
ubotusleon: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!08:43
jmemaybe adding a new user will do the trick08:43
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troDr_willis: no, i tried that already. sshd root logins are disabled and if i do "su" then i need to type in the correct password08:43
hermit!easyubuntu08:43
ubotueasyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu08:43
amnesiac_hackersjme: tried adding anew system user08:43
amnesiac_hackers???08:43
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jmehow to add a system user?08:44
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amnesiac_hackersjme: sudo useradd -system etc....08:44
stdinjme: if you aren't being brought to the desktop on the live cd then the cd isn't right08:44
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lucahi everyone08:44
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amnesiac_hackershi luca08:44
stdinjme: check the md5sum and it's integrity08:44
lucadoes someone know how to remove a program installed from source with cmake?08:45
lucasudo make uninstall does not function08:45
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WhtWolfTeraDyneOk, I figured out where Kpersonalizer crashes. I click "Next" after the "Performance" screen, and it throws out a SIGSEGV signal.08:45
stdinluca: then you'll have to find all the files it installed and remove them08:45
amnesiac_hackersubotu:cmake08:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cmake - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:45
sleonok, so can anybody in this channel tell me what is the name of a program with wich a can set up my brand new sound card so i can hear moans in porno films ??08:45
jokijo!players08:46
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ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs08:46
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stdin!sound | sleon08:46
ubotusleon: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP308:46
amnesiac_hackersubotu:tdbfs08:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tdbfs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:46
amnesiac_hackersubotu:tdbfs08:46
stdinamnesiac_hackers: stop that08:46
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amnesiac_hackersstdin: i trie to get info about the tdbfs 3dfileviewer08:47
lucastdin: any idea on how to find a list of those files? :'(08:47
amnesiac_hackersi can ask or not ???08:47
stdinamnesiac_hackers: then /msg ubotu08:47
amnesiac_hackersAH damn sorry stdin08:47
amnesiac_hackershahaha08:47
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stdinluca: run: script -c "sudo make install"       maybe, then you'll have a log of where it installs stuff to08:48
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lucastdin thanks08:49
lucaah ah did it :)08:49
lucathanks08:49
lucaanother thing maybe08:49
amnesiac_hackerssee ya later folks08:50
lucathe program I am going to remove is kgtk (a wrapper for gtk applications in kde)08:50
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bigleonWoooo willy you on???08:50
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lucawhich has a serious bug IMHO - at least, on my box it recursively executes itself and the program it wraps over and over08:50
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lucaproblem is, I already gave the command "sudo ln -s /usr/bin/kgtk-wrapper /usr/bin/firefox" :(08:51
bigleonSooo, this would be my 7th attempt at getting linux to work on my E1705 I can seem to get 6.06 and sometimes 6.10 but sofar it always goes sour at 7.04 any tips?08:51
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lucawill I have to reinstall firefox for this rather stupid move of mine?08:51
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BoneSolTeraDyneI didn't know HydraIRC had that feature...09:09
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rectorbidemonter partition09:09
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stdinluca: just do "cd /usr/bin ; sudo rm firefox ; sudo ln -s ../lib/firefox/firefox firefox "09:09
bigleonHallo stdin. got any ideas for getting 7.04 to work on my E1705?09:09
lucastdin: thanks :)09:09
stdinbigleon: depends what the problem is09:09
bigleonWell, from what i understand my Vid Card is one problem, it's X1400 Mobility09:09
stdinbigleon: does the liveCD work?09:09
bigleonwell i only got live CD from 6.0609:09
lucaok thanks stdin, by all :)09:09
stdinbigleon: so you're upgrading to 7.04?09:09
bigleonTrying lol09:09
stdinbigleon: so what's not working?09:09
Mr_Panhi i have a 3com wifi pci card , i can see it into LSPCI list but i can't see and configure with ICONFIG and IWCONFIG commands. any ideas?09:09
stdin!wifi | Mr_Pan09:09
ubotuMr_Pan: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs09:09
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Mr_Panstdin, ok thanks09:09
bigleonwell i've yet to get it to boot once i go from 6.10 to 7.0409:09
stdinbigleon: what happens?09:09
bigleonlast time it gave some bcmXX error, and told me i was missing video drivers, and time before that it was missing something about a keymap09:09
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stdinbigleon: does it go to a (text) login prompt then?09:09
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bigleonif i go in recovery mode09:09
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bigleonother wise it just freezes09:09
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stdinbigleon: I'm guessing you installed the ati driver by downloading the .bin or .run file from ati.com ?09:09
bigleonnope xorg-xserver-fgrlx or something like that09:09
ironfroggyive got my smbfs mounts working but how do i get them to be owned by a specific user?09:09
ironfroggyi cant find anything on that yet09:09
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stdinbigleon: what happens when you do a normal boot? does it freeze up or just not start X?09:09
bigleonfreeze up09:09
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bigleoni've reinstalled and back at 6.0609:09
jokijoi cant get amarok to play music09:09
jokijo!amarok09:09
ubotuAmarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok09:09
bigleoni'm at ati's page, which driver do i need09:09
bigleon i see xp09:09
bigleonand then i see something about 'Hydra"09:09
stdinbigleon: hmm, I'd try asking on https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ you'll get more chance of someone knowing there09:09
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bigleonwell i'm going to run to local shop, and grab a Cd-rw and burn the live cd of 7.04 and try09:09
stdinbigleon: you can order one off shipit too, it'll take a few weeks tho09:09
jmeamnesiac_hackers: i've juste check the md5 and it's ok :s09:09
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jokijoamarok says "some media could not be loaded (not playable)"09:09
jokijofor mp3s09:09
bigleongah..09:09
bigleonyeah stdin lol09:09
bigleon4-609:09
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bigleonand i need a working comp by next week lol09:09
stdinjokijo: install mp3 support, get the libxine1-ffmpeg package09:09
jokijoi installed the mp3 support09:09
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hermit!amarok-xine09:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about amarok-xine - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:09
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vapashosanyone who can help me with the installation of new kubuntu?i have some problems09:09
vapashosplease talk to me09:09
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stdin!ask09:09
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)09:09
vge!ask09:09
vge:)09:09
vapashosok09:09
vapashosi have inserted the cd i have downloaded from the site09:09
vapashosi selected starting and installing kubuntu09:10
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vapashosand it shows me up some messages09:10
[nrx] gah09:10
vapashosand stops saying starting bluetooth devices09:10
vapashosprobably because i dont have any on my pc09:10
vapashoshow can i make it skip this?09:11
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[nrx] am i here?09:11
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bigleoni would think so nrx09:12
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vapashosanyone how can help me?09:13
[nrx] is there a default template for routes?09:13
[nrx] im not sure how it should look :/09:13
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bigleonnrx try a google search for starters nrx09:13
bigleoni can try vapashos09:13
[nrx] i can't09:13
bigleonwhy not?09:13
[nrx] because DNS is screwed on here09:13
bigleonwant me to get you an IP for google.com09:13
[nrx] irc client seems ok... nslookup works..09:13
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[nrx] but nothing else works with dns09:13
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bigleontry, Http://72.14.207.9909:14
jokijoi cant get amarok to play music09:15
hitmanWilly[nrx] , whats in /etc/resolv.conf09:15
BoneSolTeraDyneWell, I think Kwin is dead for some reason. It just won't load when KDE starts up09:15
[nrx] nameserver 192.168.1.109:15
bigleonhmm, well i gotta run to the store09:15
hitmanWilly[nrx] , is your router a dns server?09:15
vapashosno one helps me i think its not such difficult09:15
bigleonhey hitman i killed it last night after all that work, i'm buying a cd so i can burn fiesty to it lol09:16
[nrx] yes09:16
[nrx] why does konqueror work.. but firefox doesn't? :O09:16
hitmanWilly[nrx] , try adding this line: nameserver 24.159.64.2309:16
bigleonVapashos, try and google start up sqeunce and how to ed =it it09:16
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[nrx] hitmanWilly: i've tried different nameservers (external) and it doesn't make any difference09:17
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hitmanWilly[nrx] , hmm, well, that's usually where dns issues occur...are you using a proxy?09:17
[nrx] hitmanWilly: no09:17
[nrx] hitmanWilly: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37336/09:17
bigleonAre you on a college or business network, that might have blocked you?09:18
hitmanWilly[nrx] , i take it it hangs at 0%09:18
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[nrx] im at home.. and the rest of the pc's are fine09:18
[nrx] hitmanWilly: well, look at the IP it's resolving09:18
bigleonit might be possible servers are down or something. well i'll be back in 20 minutes09:19
hitmanWillyheh, missed that one :)09:19
hitmanWillyim pretty sure 1.0.0.0 isn't a valid ip for that...09:19
[nrx] i can't figure it out :(09:19
[nrx] i've got connection problems in general..09:19
[nrx] i have to manually run iwconfig to get connected.. but that's only here at home, at the office network, it's all fine and good09:20
hitmanWilly[nrx] , hmmm, sounds like router issues, actually09:20
[nrx] can't be router issues because all the other pc's here are fine09:20
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hitmanWilly[nrx] , well, double check and make sure its not filtering traffic to that particular machine09:20
[nrx] it's not :(09:21
hitmanWillyweird...09:21
[nrx] it's defo not a router issue09:21
[nrx] konquerer seems to be fine.. works with all addresses09:21
[nrx] nslookup in console is fine09:21
[nrx] firefox doesn't seem to want to work with addresses09:21
[nrx] and apt-get.. well, you've seen what that's doing09:21
hitmanWilly[nrx] , try reinstalling ff and see if it helps...09:22
hitmanWilly[nrx] , oh right, no apt...09:22
[nrx] uh huh09:22
hitmanWilly[nrx] , try aptitude and see if that works09:23
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[nrx] hitmanWilly: same problem09:23
hitmanWillyugh...ok09:23
jokijoanyone know why amarok wont play mp3s?09:24
DexterFis this procedure any promising for having a 2.6.22 kernel in feisty? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-upgrade-kernel2622-9-generic-in-feisty-fawn.html09:24
BoneSolTeraDynehitmanWilly, if firefox is installed, wouldn't the package be located on the hard drive? dpkg -r and dpkg -i might work in that situation.09:24
DexterFit installs a gutsy kernel, but is that fine rgarding glibc and such?09:24
hitmanWillyyeah, that was my next suggestion09:24
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BoneSolTeraDynejokijo, you need to install libxine0-ffmpeg09:24
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BoneSolTeraDyne!find libxine0-ffmpeg09:25
ubotuPackage/file libxine0-ffmpeg does not exist in feisty09:25
hitmanWilly[nrx] , try dpkg-reconfigure firefox09:25
BoneSolTeraDyne!find libxine1-ffmpeg09:25
ubotuFound: libxine1-ffmpeg09:25
BoneSolTeraDyneok, so it's libxine1-fmpeg09:25
jokijookay09:25
BoneSolTeraDynelibxine1-ffpmeg*09:26
stdinDexterF: the kernel doesn't depend on any particular version of glibc09:26
DexterFoO09:27
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stdinDexterF: although 2.6.22-11 is the current gutsy, not -909:27
DexterFseriously...? I remember strange symbol errors when I tried putting foreign kernel stuff in distro once...09:27
DexterFgood to know09:27
jokijobones, that's already installed09:28
stdinDexterF: symbol? sounds more like module errors09:28
DexterFstdin: heck yes you're right, it was about modules.09:28
hitmanWillyyou generally need to compile the kernel modules and the kernel on the same gcc version09:28
DexterFhmm. 2.6.22 here I come.09:28
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jokijoi get the error message on the bottom that says "some media could not be loaded (not playable)"09:29
hitmanWillywhich is why if you update gcc and recompile just the modules, it won't work09:29
DexterFhitmanWilly: but that deosn't necessarily need to be the same as the rest of the distro?09:29
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hitmanWillyDexterF, no, just the stuff in the kernel09:29
BoneSolTeraDynejokijo, did you keep amarok open when you installed libxine1-ffmpeg?09:29
DexterFok maybe that solves my usb issues09:30
hitmanWillyDexterF, which includes any binary video drivers09:30
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jokijono it was already installed09:30
hitmanWillyDexterF, so if you recompile the kernel you'll need to reinstall the nvidia/fglrx driver09:30
BoneSolTeraDyneO_O; ok, that's odd. what format is the file you're trying to play? MP3?09:30
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jokijomp3, yes09:30
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hitmanWillyDexterF, assuming you use one of them09:31
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jokijoand it plays the matthias edwards amarok welcome message09:31
BoneSolTeraDynejokijo, that's odd. It should be able to play it...09:31
hitmanWillyjokijo, install libxine-extracodecs09:31
DexterFhitmanWilly: actually not. vmnet, ok, can be recompiled. r300 runs Google Earth alright :)09:32
BoneSolTeraDynejokijo, that message is in OGG format, IIRC09:32
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jokijook09:32
hitmanWillyDexterF, ok, but any kernel modules that don't come built in need to be recompiled09:33
DexterFno prob09:33
hitmanWillyDexterF, which is usually video drivers and vmware IIRC09:33
BoneSolTeraDyne*sigh* This is about to drive me nuts. KDE still won't load past "Loading the Window Manager"09:33
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jokijonow it says "No suitable demux plugin. This often means that the file format is not supported."09:34
hitmanWillyjokijo, internet radio station?09:34
jokijomp309:34
hitmanWillyjokijo, hmmm....did you restart amarok?09:35
jokijoyes09:35
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hitmanWillyjokijo, all the way, not just into the system tray?09:35
jokijohmmm.. no09:36
jokijookay :) i bet that fixes it09:36
BoneSolTeraDyne*facepalm*09:36
hitmanWillymaybe09:36
BluesKajjokijo, you must ahve patience, sometimes one has to 2-3 times on some internet stns to connect09:36
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jokijothat did it!09:36
hitmanWillyBluesKaj, 2-3? maybe on a good day...09:36
KeinWhere would asound.conf be kept in Kubuntu?  I checked /etc/ but it wasn't there.09:36
BluesKajhitmanWilly, :)09:37
hitmanWillyjokijo, ok, good :)09:37
BluesKajKein, sometimes it has to be created09:38
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jokijothis is awesome - i just installed kubuntu last night, i've been on windows my whole life09:41
sleonstdin: the problem is that sound card is not conifgured09:41
jokijoi'm lovin it09:41
sleonis there 2.6.21 kernel for ubunt u?09:41
KeinAlright.09:42
stdinsleon: no, there is 2.6.20 and 2.6.22, not 2.6.2109:42
hitmanWillyjokijo, welcome to the revolution...lol09:42
jokijothanks!09:42
Keinjokijo: you'll love it, but you'll need to work with it a lot more.  Say bye to a lot of games if you aren't willing to work with WINE.09:42
Kein=(09:42
sleonstdin: where to get 2.6.22 from ??09:42
jokijoi dont play any games except yahoo chess lol09:42
stdinsleon: it's in gutsy09:42
sleonstdin: is it easy to install it on 7.04?09:43
hitmanWillysleon, it installs by defualt09:43
sleonhitmanWilly on 7.04?09:43
hitmanWillyoh, nm, no on feisty, its a pita09:43
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stdinsleon: gutsy is 7.1009:43
sven_oostenbrinkI just installed compiz, all great stuff, but now  my desktop pager in the kicker bar is showing me 20 (!!) desktops.. How do I fix this, or how can I simply disable the desktop pager??09:44
sleonis there a way to install 2.6.22 on 7.04 ?09:44
stdinsleon: you can try http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-upgrade-kernel2622-9-generic-in-feisty-fawn.html but no guarantees09:44
sleonwhat is interesting09:44
sleonsoundmixer (alsamixer) works with 2.6.1709:44
stdinsven_oostenbrink: just remove the applet from kicker...09:44
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sleonbut i get error no mixer device with 2.6.2009:44
BluesKajKein, if you are following an audio tutorial it isn't unusual to have to create the asound.conf file ...i know I had to.09:44
jhutchinsIs mailmain really the simplest list manager available for postfix?09:45
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ugahitmanWilly: heh, I got my box. I hope I'll be able to get it up and running ;)09:46
hitmanWillyBluesKaj, try creating a grub.conf or xorg.conf from scratch sometime :)09:46
ugaan asus pk5 and core2 quad cpu09:46
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KeinAlright, can you send me it as a base or something?  I have no clue what it's supposed to look like.09:46
hitmanWillyuga, good luck...asus hw is usually pretty well supported09:46
sven_oostenbrinkstdin, okay... how do I do that? :) dumbo question, I know, but still..09:46
ugahitmanWilly: basically a motherboard upgrade became a whole box upgrade... so I'm hoping for the worst ;)09:47
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ugas/hoping/expecting09:47
hitmanWillylol09:47
hitmanWillybeen there before09:47
sven_oostenbrinkstdin, never mind09:48
ugaactually they said they'd receive the pieces by monday, so I still don't have it with me physically. pretty excited :P09:48
stdinsven_oostenbrink: you found it then?09:48
hitmanWillyuga, heh, something like that is how i started building my own computers09:48
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ugahitmanWilly: the board needed a new power supply, no more agp->new video card, a decent fan system->new box (silent I hope)...09:50
ugabasically I picked each piece. I could either mount it myself, or they'll do it for 40eur =)09:51
hitmanWillylol09:51
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ugathe only thing I'm not upgrading is the dvd and dvd+rw09:51
ugathe board seems to include two network cards too... I wonder if they'll work out of the box09:51
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hitmanWillyuga, asus board, then yeah, probably09:52
hitmanWillyuga, my current one's an old asus socket 93909:52
BluesKajKein, do a locate in konq - asound09:52
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mahboobHow do I install mplayer?09:53
ugahitmanWilly: do they run stable? I wanted an intel board, but they had none :/09:53
dappermuismahboob: with apt-get09:53
hitmanWillymahboob, adept09:53
emilsedgh!mplayer | mahboob09:53
ubotumahboob: mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs09:53
hitmanWillyuga, yup, never had a problem with this one09:53
ugahitmanWilly: I've had this box running for whole months without a problem, so I was happy with intel09:53
mahboobhave tried with no success09:53
mahboobhave even downl the binarys09:54
KeinBluesKaj: I did. =(09:54
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KeinIt crashed Konqueror.09:54
stdinmahboob: do you have multiverse enabled ?09:54
hitmanWillyuga, im on 13 days, since my last kernel recompile09:54
mahboobyes09:54
mahboobbut theres something wrong09:54
stdinmahboob: what happens when you try to install it then?09:54
ugahitmanWilly: hehe, when will kubuntu supply a kernel hot-swapping system? :P09:54
BluesKajKein, whoa, konq unstable :P09:55
mahboobsometimes it works to install stuff and sometimes not09:55
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stdinuga: you can do that now, with kexec09:55
mahboobpackage broken09:55
hitmanWillyuga, well, this is my gentoo machine right now, but yeah...09:55
ugastdin: kexec? lemme check... is that some sort of virtual machine?09:55
mahboobwith binarys its says my gcc is not valid09:55
ugaoh nice... I just found it09:56
ugastdin: great, thanks09:56
mahboobhave install gcc4.009:56
BluesKajKein, on feisty09:56
BluesKaj?09:56
hitmanWillymahboob, you shouldn't need gcc with binaries09:56
stdinuga: it loads the new kernel in to memory then unloads the old one, you're dreams are coming true :P09:56
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ugastdin: if that works, I'm already dreaming ;)09:57
mahboobwell thats what it told me09:57
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ugastdin: now I only need a geek gf, and the world would be perfeKt09:57
hitmanWillystdin, wow, have to look into that one...never need to reboot...ever...09:57
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ugahitmanWilly: sure your electricity supplier will love you more09:58
emilsedghuga: no, not gf, you need kf09:58
uga=)09:58
hitmanWillyuga, its cheap out here...09:58
hitmanWillyuga, plus you use up more power on reboot than just running normal09:58
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ugayeah, I meant you should shut it down sometimes and let it rest ;)09:59
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uganow it'll have no chances. Running 365/2409:59
sean__I'm suing this sudo cp -R * /mnt/backup/irvhome/ to backup my home directory but it doesn't appaer to be picking up hidden files09:59
hitmanWillylol09:59
sean__doing09:59
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hitmanWillyuga, there's servers out there that run for years upon years without shutting down10:00
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stdinsean__: try "sudo cp -a . /mnt/backup/irvhome/"10:00
sean__anyone know how I can recursively copy a group of hidden directories10:01
stdinsean__: may be easier to tar it actually10:01
ugahitmanWilly: I had mine working for 31 days recently, but usually I reboot now and then10:01
jhutchinssean__: cp -R10:01
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jhutchinssean__: or -r, check man cp10:01
stdinsean__: and -a is better for backups than -r10:01
hitmanWillytar can do incremental backups too, IIRC10:02
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stdinyep, with -u10:03
sean__sudo cp -a . /mnt/backup/irvhome/ is going to only do the hideen files10:03
ugauhm... I should set up my old disk as backup for the new box's home10:03
sean__I want to backup my whole home directory10:03
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stdinsean__: no, -a does it all10:03
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stdinsean__: and tar is probably better anyway10:04
x_linksudo aptitude instlal mplayer, shouldn't that install mplayer in Kubuntu?10:04
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sean__I want to use rsync after10:04
stdinx_link: yeah, if you have multiverse10:04
hitmanWillyx_link, yes, should10:04
hitmanWillystdin, mplayer's in multiverse?10:04
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stdinhitmanWilly: yep10:05
hitmanWillystdin, wow...why?10:05
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hitmanWillystdin, i can see vlc being in there, but mplayer's pretty much standard nix equipment these days10:05
stdinhitmanWilly: probably because it depends/recommends or suggests on something in multiverse10:06
hitmanWillyhmmm, k10:06
x_linkstdin: Okej10:06
x_linkstdin: This guy use dapper, so I should tell him to change the repo to multiverse?10:07
stdinx_link: to add multiverse, yes10:07
x_linkOkej10:07
phanto1help alternative to session from gnome in KDE is placing a link in which folder ? I forgot.10:07
x_linkmahboob: Hi there! =) Change your repo to multiverse at the end.10:07
vgephanto1: ~/.kde/Autostart?10:08
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DexterFhitmanWilly: meh. that gutsy kernel wanted libc610:09
cupushej10:09
hitmanWillyDexterF, heh...10:09
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phanto1vge:Thanks.10:09
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stdinDexterF: ahh, because one of it's dependencies wanted it probably10:09
kcgdoes anyone know how to play mkv files in kubuntu perfectly?10:09
stdin!mkv10:10
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DexterFstdin: so you think I might succeed if I installed the debs manually?10:10
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hitmanWillyDexterF, no, you'd probably run into dependency hell10:10
stdinDexterF: just do it the apt-get way, libc6 is normally backwards-completable anyway10:10
DexterFwell guess ill compile a vanilla10:10
hitmanWillyDexterF, heh, have fun with that....10:11
hitmanWillyDexterF, especially on a buntu box10:11
DexterFwhy?10:11
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hitmanWillyDexterF, imho, ubuntu's setup makes compiling your own kernel much more difficult than it has to be10:12
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MeowmixiscooI need some help.10:12
DexterFhitmanWilly: how's that? the kernel guys here told me its just hardware support10:12
MeowmixiscooI just got my Kubuntu CD in the mail and I'm trying to install.10:13
hitmanWillyDexterF, ok, you know what an init image is?10:13
DexterFhitmanWilly: well, sure10:13
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MeowmixiscooThe CD loaded and everything alright, but then my monitor went black and is saying "Cannot Dispplay This Video Mode Optimum resolution 1280X 1024 60hz10:14
cupus_witam10:14
DexterFhitmanWilly: built a hundred kernels but been on slackware for years, apt still is a lil scary to me ;)10:14
stdinhitmanWilly: Re: mplayer in multiverse, it depends on libfaac0  liblame0  libmp4v2-0  libx264-54 libxvidcore4, which are all in multiverse, so that's why10:14
cupus_kto mi pomorze mam maly problem z kubuntu10:14
waylandbill_It's been over a year since I even wanted to recompile a kernel. My hardware was supported, so I didn't bother.10:14
DexterFMeowmixiscoo: laptop?10:14
MeowmixiscooNope10:14
DexterFtft?10:14
rasto_hi guys, is this a kubuntu help channel?10:14
emilsedghrasto_: yes :)10:15
DexterFrasto_: no, this is the kubuntu help channel :)10:15
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rasto_aha ok, tnx bye10:15
AnarchGnome boots into 1280x1024 but KDE goes to 1024x768.  KDE applets can't change the resolution; it has to be done outside X, but not in xorg.conf AFAIK.  Where does KDE store it?  This is an Intel 965 chipset & I have the new intel driver installed under Feisty.10:15
MeowmixiscooDesktop PC.10:15
DexterFhitmanWilly: so - what's the story about init images in ubuntu?10:15
ugahitmanWilly: now, what a nightmare... should I make this box my first non-floppied box or should I migrate the drive? :P10:16
hitmanWillyDexterF, well, ubuntu puts EVERYTHING in there, including filesystem drivers, plus on every subsequent kernel update, its going to modify grub.conf with the new stock kernel10:16
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hitmanWillyuga, i haven't used floppy drives in years :)10:16
waylandbill_DexterF: apt isn't scary. Building all your dependencies with no simple way to remove them later. Now that's scary! :)10:16
ugaAnarch: are you using some tool like krandr maybe?10:16
ugakde can set resolution with it10:16
kcgstdin, i got vlc installed for mkv but doesn't seem to work very well, it crashes when i move the clip forward10:17
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ugaAnarch: try execute krandrtray10:17
ugaand change sie through the small icon you'll get in the system tray10:17
hitmanWillyDexterF, and its going to modify all your config files to reference the new kernel headers, etc10:17
waylandbill_hitmanWilly: with 1 or more GB of RAM in today's systems, the extra memory usage in a loaded kernel doesn't cause that big of a hit.10:17
ugahitmanWilly: I haven't either, but all boxes came with one, hehe10:18
hitmanWillywaylandbill_, i know, im just trying to explain why rolling your own under buntu is such a pain10:18
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waylandbill_hitmanWilly: I agree. Although I think if you remove the kernel image package, some of those issues go away.10:19
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hitmanWillywaylandbill_, yes, that's possible, but buntu doesn't like when you do that10:19
hitmanWillyDexterF, this isn't slackware or gentoo, its not really set up to do this kind of thing10:20
waylandbill_hitmanWilly: I've done it in the past. It's possible it's now something else's dependency which would cause a mess.10:21
DexterFwhat, not set up to compile custom kernels? I doubt that10:21
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bigleonBleh! had to walk clear across town to grab some cd's :(10:21
waylandbill_DexterF: you can, but it's not the point of the distro. The point is to install and go.10:21
hitmanWillyDexterF, ok, go ahead and give it a try...i've done it before myself, and trust me when i say, its not worth the headache10:22
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Anarchuga: Never heard of krandr, am now investigating what it is.10:22
rasto_i installed the nvida binary x.org drivers... (i am fresh on linux, my first day)... i got problems with beryl, when i click beryl manager my desktop turns all white. i tried to install the drivers from the nvidia page but i could install the drivers coz of the root pass... help?10:22
hitmanWillyDexterF, now my gentoo box, that's a different story :)10:22
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waylandbill_DexterF: gentoo, slack, arch and even LFS are more geared to that kind of thing.10:22
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DexterFhitmanWilly: totally is since most of my USB stuff is fscked up in feisty due to their bloody USB_SUSPEND10:23
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DexterFwaylandbill_: I know, I ran slack for 6 years or so10:23
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hitmanWillyDexterF, ah, ok...honestly, you could probably just rmmod something for that10:23
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DexterFoO10:23
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hitmanWillyDexterF, like i said, EVERYHTING in ubuntu is a module10:24
stdinrasto_: you don't use a "root" password, you use _yours_10:24
rasto_stdin: it doesnt work...10:24
stdinhitmanWilly: not everything10:24
hitmanWillywell, just about...10:24
stdinrasto_: it will work10:24
stdinrasto_: when you use sudo you use your uses password10:25
rasto_stdin: i put it in, but it says thats a wrong pass10:25
MeowmixiscooI'm trying boot in safe graphics mode.10:25
hitmanWillyDexterF, or just rebuild the usb support module10:25
stdinrasto_: are you the 1st user setup on the system?10:25
rasto_stdin: yep10:25
DexterFhitmanWilly: well doesnt mean I have to build everything as a module.10:25
DexterFbut where the heck is .config?!10:26
ugaAnarch: it's an interface to xrandr (rotate and resize)10:26
stdinrasto_: and does the command "id -u" show "1000" ?10:26
ugayou can resize and rotate the monitor with it10:26
hitmanWillyDexterF, the source code, therefore .config, isn't installed by default on a buntu system10:26
ugawell, the image, not the monitor ;)10:26
rasto_stdin: yep10:26
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DexterFhitmanWilly: source package is installed. gabe me a tarball. no .config in there tho10:26
DexterF*gave10:26
MeowmixiscooHA! I think it's going to work.10:27
Meowmixiscoo5 points!10:27
hitmanWillyDexterF, can't remember of the top of my head how buntu handles that10:27
MeowmixiscooEven better, my Razer Diamond back is working without having to install drivers.10:27
stdinrasto_: ok, what about this. does "groups | grep admin" show a list ?10:27
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ProphezyHi all10:28
hitmanWillyDexterF, the whole point i rebuilt my buntu kernel in the first place was to get rid of the init img so i just used a vanilla kernel and went from the ground up10:28
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DexterFhitmanWilly: well, ok, that's pretty much what I have in mind10:29
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bigleonHitmanwilly I just bought some new CD-RW's hopefully i can burn a cd of 7.04 that will work so i can do a clean and nice install10:29
rasto_stdin: rasto adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev scanner netdev lpadmin powerdev admin10:29
hitmanWillybigleon, and make a seperate /home this time :)10:29
soulrider_!schedule10:29
ubotuUbuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases10:29
ProphezyI use Kubuntu & wonder if i can install windows xp on the same computer?10:29
bigleonhitmanWilly, It takes me like 10 minutes to reinstall 6.06 sooo lol10:29
hitmanWillybigleon, that way you can just clean install every update and save yourself a lot of hassle10:29
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DexterFhitmanWilly: d'oh! /boot10:30
stdinrasto_: then sudo will work, make sure you put the password in right. the same one you login with10:30
bigleonOhhhh10:30
bigleongotcha10:30
bigleonhow do i do that though hitman?10:30
hitmanWillyDexterF, since when is .config kept in /boot?10:30
DexterFhitmanWilly: ask the #ubuntu-kernel guys10:30
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rasto_ok so i hafta type in su - and then the pass i use for the login?10:30
hitmanWillyDexterF, weird, like i said, buntu has its own way of doing things10:31
stdinhitmanWilly: the config-$(uname -r) file is10:31
rasto_stdin: ok so i hafta type in su - and then the pass i use for the login?10:31
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stdinrasto_: no, like I said, use sudo, no su10:31
hitmanWillystdin, i think he's talking about the one generated by make menuconfig10:31
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trowhat governs the ctrl+alt+f1 behaviour? somehow i lost the ability to switch to a console. but it works if i log out of kde10:32
stdin ahh, well that should/needs to be in the source dir10:32
stdinrasto_: see this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia10:32
hitmanWillythat's what i thought, too10:32
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rasto_stdin: sorry but this are my first hours on linux, u gotta tell me what to type in coz i still dont have an idea what r we talking about here ;)10:32
CycI'm getting an "Error opening/initilalizing the selected video_out (-vo) device" when i try to play anything with mplayer, anyone can help with this?10:32
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BluesKajProphezy, you can install windows on a separate partion, but preferably located as the first logical disk partrion , then the linux ext310:32
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MeTaDo i need high resolution timer support in my kernel?10:33
MeTawhat is that exactly?10:33
MeTaIt's a notebook.10:33
stdinrasto_: read that link, follow the instructions for "Ubuntu 6.10 and earlier"10:33
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rasto_stdin: tnx a lot10:34
rasto_bye guys10:34
ProphezyBluesKaj : you mean i install first windows on the first partion and make the second partition for ext3?10:34
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BluesKajProphezy, yes , and after the ext3 , your linux swap10:35
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ProphezyBluesKaj: Thanks for the help :)10:36
MeowmixiscooFor a command line reliant OS, this has a really attractive GUI.10:37
BluesKajProphezy, do you have a partition editor like GParted ?10:37
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troMeTa: i think the HRTS is a good idea in general. I know VMWare will have time issues without it10:37
kdehlHi you all, I can't install scim-chinese, this is what I get. Sorry for the strange language, but I think the point gets through: http://pastebin.ca/69518310:37
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kdehlI also have a horrible lag...10:38
kdehlSorry for that, if I don't answer until in a few minutes.10:39
ProphezyBluesKaj: yes i have GParted, but i think i will reinstall everything, and install windows first then Linux. Becauce our booking system only works in windows :(10:39
agentkho10:39
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rasto_stdin: im an asshole, i closed the page by mistake, can u paste it once more pls?10:39
kdehlAnd I can restart acpi manually without any problem, /var/log/messages says: torsk kernel: [1947449.244000]  Using specific hotkey driver10:39
waylandbill_Prophezy: possibly could work under wine10:40
stdinrasto_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia10:40
rasto_haha :D tnx10:40
BluesKajProphezy, good choice , since it's always wiser to install windows first, then linux , due to the grub setup...good luck :)10:40
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stdin!se | kdehl10:40
ubotukdehl: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se10:40
kdehlOh. Thank you.10:41
Prophezywaylandbill: i tried don work :( the support said they will develop one for linux.. but NOT NOW :(10:41
ProphezyBluesKaj: Thanks bro... and thanks again for the help :)10:42
KeinAlright, back.10:42
BluesKajProphezy, NP :)10:42
KeinHow would I generate a asound.conf file?10:42
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ProphezyHave fun .. see you again soon :)10:42
Prophezybye10:42
Prophezyall10:42
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BluesKajbye10:42
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MeowmixiscooOMG YES!!! Windows kept telling me that I had no ethernet connection on my computer, but Kubuntu is having no issues with it!10:43
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BluesKajkein , it should already exist as a bin10:43
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Bearcathey folks. I'm tying to figure out what is overheating on a laptop.   Looking at kde system guard i see a TZ01 and a TZ02. Is there a way to idendity what the zone represent (cpu or nothrbirdge or other)?10:44
KeinYou sure?10:44
KeinWhere would it be?10:44
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bigleoncongrats meowmixiscoo?10:44
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MeowmixiscooThank you bigleon =] . Today is a VERY happy day for me.10:45
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frojndWhat plugin do I have to install for firefox to play this game: http://igre.imperij-zabave.si/igre-hudsk8.php ???10:45
bigleonMeowmixiscoo this is day 5 of trying to get kubuntu to work on my E170510:45
Meowmixiscoo=[ Ick.10:45
Daisuke_Laptopfrojnd: lemme take a quick looksee10:45
bigleonfirefox should tell you which one yoru missing Frojnd10:45
Daisuke_Laptopshockwave (macromedia director)10:46
frojndDaisuke_Laptop, thanx10:46
Daisuke_Laptopshame on the author for tying a web app to one particular OS.10:46
Daisuke_Laptopyes, that means you can't play it.10:46
DexterFdeb I get with install -d go where?10:46
frojndDaisuke_Laptop, I can't play it at all ?10:46
WaltzingAlongDexterF: /var/cache/apt/archives10:46
KeinCan't find any bin files...10:47
DexterFthanks10:47
KeinWait.10:47
Daisuke_Laptopi should qualify that and say "to my knowledge"10:47
BluesKajKein , /usr/bin/asoundconf , notice there not dot after "asound"10:47
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Daisuke_Laptop Shockwave Player Download Center10:48
Daisuke_LaptopWe are unable to locate a Web player that matches your platform and browser.10:48
Daisuke_Laptoplovely10:48
bigleonBummer10:48
stdinfrojnd: only way to play shockwave is to run firefox in wine10:48
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WaltzingAlongbigleon: just think, two more days then it works10:48
Daisuke_Laptopprobably the tenth of never.10:48
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bigleonWaltzingAlong, pfft kubuntu is hating on me majorrrrrrrrly10:48
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frojndstdin, Ah I see.... fuc** one way sites...10:48
bigleonBut hopefully after buying these new Rw's i can get a nice error free copy of 7.04 to attempt to install10:49
WaltzingAlongbigleon: any progress over the last few days? other window managers and desktops work?10:49
Daisuke_Laptopbigleon: just think, if it takes much longer you can get gutsy :)10:49
KeinAlright, found it.10:49
bigleonthanks alot Daisuke10:49
Daisuke_Laptop(which is quite lovely by the way)10:49
bigleonWell Once i get mylaptop running stable 7.0410:49
bigleoni'll get my Desktop running gutsy10:50
Daisuke_Laptopsorry, when life hands me lemons, i wonder how an anthropomorphic personification acquired lemons to begin with, but then i make lemonade.10:50
KeinWhat would I do now?10:50
Daisuke_Laptophad a bad day with feisty on my fiancee's laptop today10:50
bigleonlife hands me vodka... and then i wake up  8 hours later not remebering what i've done in a while10:50
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runleveltenI'm not sure hands imply anthropomorphism to be honest. I mean look at octopusses.10:51
utenteehi10:51
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Daisuke_Laptoprunlevelten: but life isn't a person, animal, or other tangible being.10:51
bigleonso check this out my 7.04 disk burned Error free10:51
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bigleonI will see you guys later10:51
bigleonwish me luck :D10:51
WaltzingAlonglaters!10:51
Daisuke_Laptoptherefor life handing one something implies anthropomorphic personification :)10:51
WaltzingAlongluck is for the unstable we have gnu/linux here10:52
Daisuke_Laptopshe was writing a paper in OOo 2.2, and the entire system froze on her.  she says it's been doing it occasionally in windows as well, so i'm thinking there's potentially a heat problem, as it does run a little hot (like can't use it on your lap hot)10:52
Daisuke_Laptop(going back to my fiancee's bad day with feisty)10:52
BluesKajKein, you're gonna need permission to edit the file, if you are adding commands to it  .. alt+F2 then in the runbox:  kdesu kate /usr/bin.asoundconf10:53
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Daisuke_Laptop...he'll be back in a few days10:53
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BluesKajoops Kein,  kdesu kate /usr/bin/asoundconf10:54
Daisuke_Laptopanyway, she says she's nearly ready to give up on her laptop completely and buy a new one10:54
Daisuke_Laptop(which means i get a new toy :D)10:54
Daisuke_Laptopturn it into a mythtv frontend, maybe >_>10:55
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KeinAlright.10:57
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KeinShould I toss you a pastebin of the console readout before doing anything?10:57
KeinI have no clue what to do here.10:57
BluesKajmythtv Daisuke_Laptop...have fun configuring that monster :)10:58
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arashyou guys know how to activate the mousegestures/'draw' in konquerer?10:58
BluesKajKein, what commands did the tutorial ask you to add to the file ?10:58
Daisuke_LaptopBluesKaj: that's kinda what i want in concept at least10:59
Daisuke_Laptopmight do linux media center10:59
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Daisuke_Laptopbecause i pretty much just need to stream video (i have a lot of it) from the pc in the bedroom out to the living room10:59
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BluesKajDaisuke_Laptop, if ya want tv on yer pc then tvtime is great...medialinux uses parts of mythtv but it's been updated and is easier to install for running a media center than the older style mythtv11:01
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Daisuke_Laptopooh, thanks for the suggestions :)11:01
Daisuke_Laptopthere is one little thing i'm wondering about.11:01
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Daisuke_Laptopis an 802.11g wireless connection going to be enough to stream standard-definition video?11:02
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bigleon_Ok Hello guys11:02
stdinDaisuke_Laptop: should be, I can stream DVD's with my wireless11:02
Daisuke_Laptopbigleon_: are things happy in linuxland?11:02
KeinNot sure, BluesKaj.11:03
bigleon_well11:03
Daisuke_Laptopstdin: thanks11:03
bigleon_my disk is perfect11:03
KeinSee, it asked me to add a card11:03
bigleon_butttt11:03
Daisuke_Laptopbut?11:03
KeinBut there's only one card. =/11:03
bigleon_i'm getting this error bcm43xx: Error: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode.fw" not available or load failed11:03
Daisuke_Laptopit needs the firmware11:03
bigleon_Well11:03
bigleon_I can't exactly get firmware, off live cd11:03
stdinbigleon_: because you need the bcm43xx-fwcutter package11:04
Daisuke_Laptoptrue but11:04
Daisuke_Laptopstdin: if he can't get online, isn't that going to be difficult?11:04
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sea4everI'm beginning to like Linux.11:04
stdinyeah, that will11:04
Daisuke_Laptopsea4ever: it's not just for nerds anymore!11:04
Daisuke_Laptopwhat i'm going to suggest11:04
Daisuke_Laptopand this may sound crazy11:04
sea4everDaisuke_Laptop : Yay! suggest away!11:05
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Daisuke_Laptopis grab a thumbdrive and download it via http (or get someone here to get it for you for feisty)11:05
Daisuke_Laptopsea4ever: this is actually for bigleon11:05
kirkhey everyone11:05
Daisuke_Laptopand transfer it over and use dpkg -i11:05
bigleon_don't i have to install fiesty before i can start adding stuff?11:05
Daisuke_Laptopto install it :)11:05
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Daisuke_Laptopit won't be permanent, but it should get you online *for now*11:06
bigleon_my eithernet on laptop is working fine11:06
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Daisuke_Laptopoh.11:06
bigleon_but i can't even get my gui to load11:06
bigleon_so i can install it11:06
kirki have a secondary hard drive hooked up, how can i  transfer files from there to here11:06
Daisuke_Laptopis this a new laptop?11:06
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bigleon_got it back in april11:06
Daisuke_Laptopintel core 2 duo?11:06
bigleon_yup11:07
Daisuke_Laptopsanta rosa mobile platform?11:07
bigleon_Inspiron E170511:07
Daisuke_Laptopthat's a giant yes11:07
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bigleon_is that a bad thing?11:07
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Daisuke_Laptopbe right back, don't go anywhere :)11:08
bigleon_lol11:08
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kirkhow can i transfer files from a hard disk thats hooked up to my new kubuntu system11:08
Daisuke_Laptopin the meantime, just a suggestion again, check out gutsy tribe 511:08
Daisuke_Laptopnot to install, just to see if the livecd will boot properly, they're supposed to have this issue fixed (if the issue is what i think it is)11:08
bigleon_well i'll start the download for my Desktop11:08
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kirksuggestions anyone?11:09
BluesKajkirk, does the 2nd HDD show up in system menu/storage media ?11:10
KeinBluesKaj: http://pastebin.ca/69630711:10
KeinI know for a fact that it was running something else when I updated to Feisty first.11:10
kirkhmm it shows up with krusader11:11
Kein...11:11
Keinwait.11:11
KeinThat's what it -should- be running.11:11
KeinBut it's running something by Realtek instead, despite it not showing up.11:11
kirkyes and also in disk and filesystems11:11
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bigleon_i'm back dask11:12
Daisuke_Laptopi thought ALC was realtek11:12
Daisuke_Laptopk, bigleon_, you have an x1400, correct?11:12
bigleon_correctomondo11:13
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AnarchMy Intel 965 chipset seems not to be compatible with `sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel`; that *never* gives me legible video, and reverting xorg.conf from Driver "intel" to Driver "vesa" gets me back to where max resolution is 1024x768.  I know this monitor is capable of more.11:14
Daisuke_LaptopAnarch: enable feisty-backports in the repos, update, and upgrade xserver-xorg-video-intel11:15
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bigleon_thats right dask11:16
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AnarchDaisuke_Laptop: THANK YOU for the clue.  I will try that now.11:16
BluesKajKein, in the kosole type , lspci | grep audio11:16
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kirkwtf why is this saying i dont permissions11:16
BluesKajerr konsole11:16
kirkhave*11:16
Daisuke_LaptopAnarch: no problem, i was in the same boat with the 965 :)11:16
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Daisuke_Laptopbigleon_: http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeonhd.html11:16
vge!sudo11:17
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.11:17
vgekirk: ^11:17
Daisuke_Laptopthere have been reports of success using that driver.  it is NOT an elegant solution, however.11:17
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Keinnothing happened.11:17
bigleon_Well11:17
bigleon_don't i need to install it before i can start adding drivers11:18
kirki have another hard drive hooked up and just wanna get files off of it and put on here11:18
kirkor make the other hard drive available for storage11:18
kirklike master/slave ..11:18
Daisuke_Laptopin that case, i recommend the alternate cd11:18
AnarchDaisuke_Laptop: BTW, my experience has been with 2 old CRTs; I don't have a flat panel to compare with.  But I have older mobos driving the CRTs at 1280x1024.  Any reason to believe the backport won't handle this?11:19
bigleon_-.-11:19
BluesKajKein, ok type just' lspci ' and paste the output in pastebin like before11:19
bigleon_so there is no other way i can do it right now?11:19
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Daisuke_Laptopbigleon_: unfortunately, i don't think so :\11:19
Daisuke_Laptopyou can install the driver and restart x without restarting the live cd11:20
Daisuke_Laptopthat may get you to a visible and usable state11:20
bigleon_ is there any way i can apt-get it?11:20
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Daisuke_Laptopnope, it's not available in the repos yet11:20
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FireCrotch_Running Gutsy, and I want to start my machine to a CLI instead of GUI.  I can't figure out how to do that with Upstart11:20
bigleon_ugggggggggggggggggggggggggg11:20
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sea4everug?11:21
sea4evergawk?11:21
kirki have another hard drive hooked up and just wanna get files off of it and put on here, any advice????????11:21
stdinFireCrotch_: that's what recovery mode is...11:22
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FireCrotch_stdin, I don't want single user mode, I want multiuser11:22
bigleon_how can i get it to my other machine?11:22
stdinFireCrotch_: or just do "sudo update-rc.d -f kdm remove" then11:22
Daisuke_Laptopwell...11:22
FireCrotch_Thanks11:22
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Daisuke_Laptopusb thumbdrive?11:23
Keinhttp://pastebin.ca/69635311:23
KeinThere, BluesKaj11:23
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devianceI just lost the entire contence of my phone. I diddnt safley remove, my phone thought it was corrupt and replace all the direcories, and now its not letting me safely remove becasue11:25
devianceUnmounting failed due to the following error:11:25
devianceDid not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.11:25
devianceWhoops, sorry.11:25
devianceIt also sais getty and syslodg are still using it11:26
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devianceAny ideas on how to disconnect it11:27
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DexterFhitmanWilly: against all odd that gutsy kernel and gutsy libc6 work11:29
knightzwhat is the next version of k/ubuntu and where can i get it?11:29
NickPresta!gutsy | knightz11:29
ubotuknightz: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+111:29
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mauri_i'm not able to configure my webcam11:30
DexterFknightz: I wouldn't really go gutsy. it's beta for a reason.11:30
stdindeviance: try "sudo eject /dev/sd?" where sd? is the device name11:30
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bigleon_i'll be back heading out to dinner lately11:30
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stdinDexterF: gutsy isn't in beta11:31
DexterFstdin: ?11:31
stdinit's still alpha :)11:31
kirki really need some help with this..11:31
DexterF:P11:31
stdinbeta is on 27th11:31
DexterFstdin: isn't it supposed to be released in october?11:31
deviancestdin: How do I find the device name11:31
Daisuke_Laptophowever, that doesn't mean it isn't usable11:31
Daisuke_LaptopDexterF: that's comparable with feisty's release schedule11:32
kirki have my secondary hard drive which i just used for storage hooked up, how can i make it accessible with kubuntu?11:32
stdinDexterF: yep, the target is October 18th11:32
stdindeviance: use the "mount" command to see11:32
DexterFwonder how stable that stable release is gonna be...11:32
deviancestdin: I dont know how to do that11:32
DexterFneed to reboot, l8r11:32
devianceI think its hdc11:33
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sarosetAny idea how to install something from a disc using wine?11:33
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stdindeviance: type "mount" and see what's mounted in /media11:33
devianceIts sda111:33
kirkany ideas????11:33
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stdindeviance: then "sudo eject /dev/sda"11:33
ReALFhi11:33
devianceOk, that will be safe correct?11:34
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stdindeviance: yep, that will sync and unmount it11:34
devianceOk :D11:34
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devianceError: invalid device /media/disk (must be in /dev/)11:35
devianceeject: unmount of `/media/disk' failed11:35
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stdindeviance: did you use /dev/sda ?11:35
devianceYea11:36
devianceThen tried sda111:36
kirkhelp?11:36
kirk!help11:36
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots11:36
stdindeviance: same error for both?11:36
kirk!harddrive11:36
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter11:36
devianceYes11:36
sarosetHow do I access my cd/dvd drive?11:37
kirk!diskmounter11:37
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse11:37
kirk!fuse11:37
ubotuFUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) is a !kernel driver that allows non-root users to create their own filesystems. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE.  Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here:  http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems11:37
devianceCould I use sync11:37
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stdindeviance: yeah, and hope :)11:38
ReALFhow can i listen to mp3 using amaroK in kubuntu 7.04?11:38
stdinsaroset: see the "computer" icon in the bottom left, click it, then click on "Storage Media"11:38
sarosetstdin, Thank you!11:38
devianceI ran it sync: ignoring all arguments11:38
stdinReALF: install the libxine1-ffmpeg package with adept11:38
devianceI did sudo sync de/sda is that right?11:39
stdindeviance: afaik, it's just "sudo sync"11:39
devianceAh ok11:39
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sarosetNext question, how do I install a windows program from there using wine?11:40
devianceNo monitor though11:40
ReALFstdin, thank you11:40
bmac2I have kubuntu installed on a computer I am using to run nagios to monitor the network and the hosts at the ski resort I work at11:40
stdindeviance: you can also try "alt-sysrq-s"11:40
bmac2I can NOT get it to run both the wired and the wireless network cards at the same time11:40
bmac2am I doing something wrong?11:40
devianceScore, I think its worked11:40
devianceLemme unplug and see :D11:40
bmac2I need nagios to scan 47 wired hosts/switches11:40
bmac2and 15 wireless aps11:40
bmac2any ideas?11:40
deviancewoot thanks stdin, youve saved my life once more11:41
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rustalotI have a small (<5GB) partition which I use to move files back and forth between my kubuntu and my windows. How do I make it in the fstab so that /media/winshare/photos is writeable by my user?11:41
rustalotI tried sudo chown -R username /media/winshare/photos/11:41
kirkNot enabling experimental NTFS write support11:41
kirkIgnoring /dev/hdb1 - already in /etc/fstab11:41
kirkNo usable windows/mac partitions found11:41
kirkim trying to make my second hard drive accessible... any ideas?11:42
stdinrustalot: use the options "fmask=111,dmask=000"11:42
rustalotstdin: in the fstab?11:42
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stdinrustalot: yeah, like: /dev/hda3 /media/winshare vfat defaults,fmask=111,dmask=000 0 011:43
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stdinor something like it11:43
notvcan someone help me fix the x server11:43
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stdinkirk: it's in fstab, just do "mount /dev/sdb1"11:44
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rustalotstdin: will mount -a refresh the options?11:44
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stdinrustalot: yeah, though it may be better to umount it then mount it again11:44
stdinsometimes it works tho11:45
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bmac2anyone running multiple network cards at the same time?11:46
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bmac2or a wireless and another network card?11:46
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sven_oostenbrinkHi there, I just installed compiz-fusion, and rebooted, but there is no window decoration.. How can I have compiz start some window decorator??11:47
ugastdin: and... kexec was _meant to_ work, right? =)11:47
ugaif unloading the kernel and loading the new one into ram has to go through a reboot process, then it managed =)11:48
ugabut it didn't boot the proper kernel :P11:48
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kirkhmmm im lost, probably about to break something lol11:48
stdinuga: you need to set some kernel options I think, not sure11:48
ugaheh11:49
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Keinkmix is making me very, very irritable. -_-11:51
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mauri_i'm not able to configure my webcam11:53
rustalotstdin: seems to work11:54
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kirkok.. i 'think' i have my other hard drive mounted, but now it says i dont have access rights11:57
stdinkirk: what's the fstab line?11:58
kirkfstab line?11:58
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stdinthe line in /etc/fstab that you use to mount it? or how are you mounting it?11:59
kirkit has...11:59
kirk-  /dev/hdb112:00
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kirkmount point /harddrive212:00
kirkenabled12:00
stdinthe whole line would help12:00
kirk- mount /dev/hdb112:01
stdinthat's not a valid fstab line12:01
kirkoh ok 1 sec i know what ur asking12:02
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kirkUUID=82587b18-e704-4d5f-9a90-f8411e4710c7 none swap sw 0 012:02
kirk/dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 auto nouser,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 012:02
kirk/dev/hdb1 /harddrive2 auto users,noauto,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 012:02
stdinkirk: and what filesystem is it?12:03
kirknfts i believe12:03
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kirkor fat3212:03
stdindo you want to write to it too?12:04
mauri_i'm not able to configure my webcam12:04
kirki used to use it for windows12:04
stdin!webcam12:04
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras12:04
kirkyes i would like to use it as extra storage12:04
stdinkirk: so it's mounted now ?12:04
kirkplus it has about 30 gigs of movies and music i would like to have access to12:04
mauri_stdin: may you halp me with my cam12:05
kirkim brand new to linux, just installed kubuntu last night12:05
kirkim not exactly sure12:05
stdinmauri_: I don't use one, so I can't really12:05
stdinkirk: post the output of "mount" to pastebin please12:05
kirkso forgive me for sounding so ignorant12:05
stdin!paste12:05
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)12:05
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geniohhablan castellano ?12:05
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stdin!es12:06
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.12:06
mauri_stdin: do you know someone that could be able to help me?12:06
stdinmauri_: you could try in #ubuntu12:06
kirkhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37355/12:07
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geniohok gracias =)12:07
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geniohthx dude12:07
WaltzingAlongprego12:07
stdinkirk: so it's ntfs, and it's mounted to /harddrive2, can you show me what "ls -ld /harddrive2" shows, should only be one line12:08
kirkdr-x------ 1 root root 8192 2007-09-12 10:08 /harddrive212:08
stdinahh, I thought so12:09
kirk<-- lost12:09
stdindon't worry, I'll guide you :)12:09
kirkthanks!12:09
mauri_stdin: ok i will try..thanks12:09
stdinkirk: you want to be able to write to it, so you need to install the package called "ntfs-3g", the quickest way is to do "sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g"12:10
stdinkirk: let me know when that's done it's thing12:10
kirkdone12:11
stdinok, now you need to change that line in /etc/fstab12:11
stdinso press Alt-F2 and put in "kdesu kate /etc/fstab" to open it12:11
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kirkim with ya12:13
stdinthen change the line with /dev/hdb on it to: /dev/hdb1 /harddrive2 ntfs-3g users,noauto,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid,umask=0000 0 012:13
kirkdone12:13
stdinthen all you should need to do is "umount /harddrive2" and "mount /harddrive2"12:14
kirkthe last 0 is red and underlined (dont know if that matters)12:14
stdinit doesn't :)12:14
stdinor it shouldn't anyway12:15
kirkumount: harddrive2 is not mounted (according to mtab)12:15
kirkmount: can't find harddrive2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab12:16
stdinmake sure you put the '/' at the beginning12:16
kirkah12:16
kirkso mount /harddrive2  ?12:16
stdinyep12:16
kirkhmm so i should be able to go to /harddrive2 and see the contents of my secondard drive?12:18
kirksecondary*12:18
stdinyeah, try it12:19
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kirkit went now, but it appears empty12:20
kirkno items no files no folders, it says12:20
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stdinkirk: pastebin the output of "mount" again then12:21
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beatrixksalve un aiuto su kubuntu per favore...a chi posso chiedere??12:22
kirkhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37360/12:22
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stdin!it | beatrixk12:22
ubotubeatrixk: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!12:22
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beatrixkops sorry this is my first time on kubuntu12:23
stdinkirk: heh, that's because it's still not mounted, try "mount /dev/hdb1"12:23
beatrixkthanks12:23
beatrixksee you soon12:23
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kirkok did that12:24
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stdinkirk: see if you can see the files now12:24
kirkstill nothing12:24
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sarosetIs there some kind of built in firewall?12:25
stdin!firewall | saroset12:25
ubotusaroset: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).12:25
sarosetThank you =] 12:25
stdinkirk: is there any output from the command when you mount it?12:26
kirkno output at all12:26
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stdinkirk: and do you see "/dev/sdb1" when you type "mount" ?12:27
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danny500How do I changer the Splash screen?12:27
danny500change*12:28
stdinkde splash or boot splash ?12:28
danny500ok thanks12:28
kirkdont see it12:28
danny500what about the looks of the mouse?12:28
stdindanny500: that was a question, not an answer12:28
BluesKajdanny500, system settings/splash screen12:29
danny500kde splash12:29
danny500ok12:29
stdinkirk: hmm, ok, try "sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /harddrive2"12:29
danny500I don't have that12:29
kirkprompted me for password, maybe that did it12:29
stdindanny500: system settings > splash screen12:30
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kirknow it says..12:30
kirkUnable to enter file:///harddrive2/. You do not have access rights to this location.12:30
stdinhmm12:30
danny500I don't have that12:30
stdindanny500: kcontrol > appearance and themes > splash screen   then12:31
stdinkirk: type "ls -ld /harddrive2" again and let me know what it says12:31
danny500don't have that either O_O12:31
kirkdr-x------ 1 root root 8192 2007-09-12 10:08 /harddrive212:31
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stdinkirk: show me the line you have in fstab again12:33
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stdindanny500: you do have Kubuntu ?12:33
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danny500Ubuntu but I never use the Ubuntu room because they never help me. Even If I sit there for hours repeating the question no one ever helps. So I always come here. Plus this is the room I was given when I installed konversation.12:35
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danny500And the only difference between Kubuntu and Ubuntu is the desktop environment.12:36
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stdindanny500: well Konversation is a KDE app, and installed by default on kubuntu, so it goes to #kubuntu, but you're asking a gnome issue12:36
kirk /dev/hdb1 /harddrive2 ntfs-3g users,noauto,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid,umask=0000 0 012:36
danny500same kernel12:36
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danny500I think I figured it out though.12:37
stdin!away > metaway12:37
BluesKajdifferent desktop and spalshscreen danny50012:37
jordo23Does anyone have a HOWTO for VNC or TightVNC over Kubuntu?12:37
danny500lol. I used to be on here all the time way back when12:37
danny500last year12:38
danny500I remember you BluesKaj12:38
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Netkiller3714there we go, Thats better.12:38
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stdinkirk: try changing it to: /dev/hdb1 /harddrive2 ntfs-3g defaults,umask=000 0 012:39

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