[12:38] <TECKBW> googled around for about a week and gave up
[12:38] <MacZtttlkwork> Oh, and another point, in vista DVD playback was a bit slow!! However with kubuntu it goes ok
[12:39] <TECKBW> vista sucks
[12:39] <lparry> exactly :P
[12:39] <TECKBW> they say faster then xp...hell i run faster than vista
[12:39] <lparry> everyone at my school prefers xp, and thinks vista is a load of crap
[12:39] <gnomefreak> for Vista please see #kubuntu-offtopic please
[12:39] <MacZtttlkwork> In my comp Vista boots... as fast as Kubuntu... the boot process is quite simillar IMHO. However opensuse 10.2... I deleted it, lol.
[12:39] <ScorpKing> lol
[12:39] <trpr> faster than XP... got to be because you MUST run a faster computer.
[12:40] <MacZtttlkwork> :P didn't know about that channel, sorry!
[12:40] <TECKBW> cheers be back ... rebooting for test
[12:40] <ScorpKing> :)
[12:40] <brian_> hi
[12:43] <MacZtttlkwork> I don't want to be reiterative but... any "how to" about kbfx or something?
[12:44] <banie> Uptime: 50 minutes
[12:44] <ScorpKing> MacZtttlkwork: let me go look
[12:48] <TECKBW> i am back will let u know in a second if the hard drive mounted
[12:48] <MacZtttlkwork> I have both tried from repositories and also from kde-apps...
[12:49] <ScorpKing> MacZtttlkwork: i can't load http://www.kbfx.org/ . maybe there is something
[12:49] <ScorpKing> MacZtttlkwork: do you just want to install it?
[12:49] <MacZtttlkwork> i couldn't also
[12:49] <MacZtttlkwork> i have installed it
[12:50] <MacZtttlkwork> both from the repositories and from kde-apps (a deb package)
[12:50] <MacZtttlkwork> but they didn't worked...
[12:50] <ScorpKing> it's not in the help centre?
[12:50] <MacZtttlkwork> I open the help centre
[12:50] <MacZtttlkwork> and do the appropiate things but nothing happens
[12:51] <TECKBW> ScorpKing---> Still did not mount....
[12:52] <ScorpKing> uhm... look in /var/log/messages for mount errors
[12:52] <TECKBW> k checking now
[12:53] <ScorpKing> TECKBW: sudo grep hda /var/log/messages | less
[12:53] <ScorpKing> use hdb :)
[12:53] <ScorpKing> or what ever your hd is
[12:56] <TECKBW> logs for hda1-5 ext3 but none for hdb1 vfat
[12:56] <ScorpKing> MacZtttlkwork: KDE Help Centre -> Application Manuals -> Internet -> Krfb
[12:57] <ScorpKing> TECKBW: just run sudo mount /dev/hdb1 and see if that gives any errors
[12:57] <nosrednaekim> wow... performance if better with the new ATI driver!
[12:57] <nosrednaekim> far better!
[12:58] <TECKBW> no final new line at end of fstab...think i will have to edit fstab and enter a blank line at the end
[12:58] <MacZtttlkwork> ok I am looking...
[12:58] <ScorpKing> try that
[12:59] <felipe__> hi
[12:59] <felipe__> someone know how activate usb mass storage in kubuntu feisty?
[12:59] <nosrednaekim> hello
[01:00] <nosrednaekim> felipe__: works automatically.
[01:00] <MacZtttlkwork> it is not listed there :-S
[01:00] <ScorpKing> mine is. :)
[01:00] <MacZtttlkwork> :-(
[01:00] <MacZtttlkwork> perhaps i have to restart kde?
[01:01] <felipe__> nosrednaekim: but if i connect my pendrive or ipod it doesn't recongnizes it
[01:01] <ScorpKing> lol. i don't see any other docs. run locate krfb | less . maybe the docs will show up
[01:01] <TECKBW> says wrong fs type...or bad superblock...missing codepage
[01:01] <nosrednaekim> felipe__: did you try all of your USB prts?
[01:02] <felipe__> nosrednaekim: but if i connect the pendrive before turning on the computer it mounts the pendrive
[01:02] <felipe__> and at windows it works perfectly
[01:02] <ScorpKing> TECKBW: put the options that you use to mount it manually in fstab
[01:02] <nosrednaekim> felipe__: hmm thats odd....
[01:03] <nosrednaekim> when you plug it in.... run "dmesg"and see what it says in the last 10 lines or so..
[01:03] <felipe__> ok
[01:03] <TECKBW> can u send gid and uid info again...
[01:03] <TECKBW> can't remember the command...
[01:03] <ScorpKing> gid=1000,uid=1000
[01:04] <felipe__> nosrednaekim: ok...
[01:04] <felipe__> nosrednaekim: it says..
[01:04] <felipe__> [ 4075.050899]  usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
[01:05] <felipe__> [ 4075.255861]  usb 1-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[01:05] <nosrednaekim> !paste
[01:05] <Ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:06] <felipe__> nosrednaekim: but it doesn't appears at the desktop or mounted in the media folder
[01:06] <nosrednaekim> felipe__: is that ALL it says?
[01:06] <thomas1> what do you guys think is the best music player software for linux?
[01:06] <nosrednaekim> amarok
[01:06] <thomas1> it sucks
[01:06] <felipe__> nosrednaekim: is the difference between before and after i connect the pendrive
[01:07] <terrestre> i really like amarok
[01:07] <nosrednaekim> 0.o
[01:07] <felipe__> if amarok sucks use xmms xD, its like winamp but the newest version is from 1999
[01:07] <terrestre> amarok found lyrics for me jaja
[01:07] <nosrednaekim> felipe__: plug it in.. wait about 10 seconds, run it and pastebin the last 20 lines.
[01:07] <nosrednaekim> run dmesg that is
[01:07] <mefisto__> nothing is better than amarok
[01:08] <felipe__> ok
[01:09] <felipe__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37277/
[01:09] <felipe__> theere is
[01:09] <nosrednaekim> AKK! sory, I have to go!
[01:09] <felipe__> ok no problem
[01:09] <felipe__> :d
[01:09] <felipe__> thanks anyway :D
[01:13] <mefisto__> TECKBW: what's the line you are using in fstab?
[01:15] <ScorpKing> :) mefisto__ thanks.
[01:15] <ScorpKing> nite everyone!
[01:15] <felipe__> anyone can help me? :D
[01:15] <felipe__> i need to use the usb mass storage :D
[01:17] <mefisto__> felipe__: someone was having trouble with usb hard disk mounting earlier. take a look at this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/110210 and look at the comments at the bottom of the page
[01:18] <felipe__> thanks ;)
[01:19] <semistud2354> is it possible to set a password for one folder....
[01:19] <semistud2354> im using feisty
[01:19] <semistud2354> ??
[01:20] <MacZtttlkwork> bye
[01:21] <TECKBW> ScorpKing  --> this seems to mount when using sudo mount /dev/hdb1
[01:21] <TECKBW> now to reboot and to check
[01:23] <thomas__> whats task manager's linux equivalent?
[01:24] <TECKBW> i think u can ctrl+esc
[01:24] <mefisto__> thomas__: process table. ctrl-esc
[01:24] <TECKBW> process table
[01:24] <TECKBW> lol...first had to check
[01:26] <thomas__> mefisto__: have you heard of konky?
[01:26] <felipe__> mefisto__: do you think that if i run an old kernel it'll work fine?
[01:26] <thomas__> mefisto__: is that any good?
[01:27] <mefisto__> thomas__: heard of it but know nothing about it, sorry
[01:27] <thomas__> mefisto__: its annoying I was importing a playlist from my ntfs windows system and it got to 85% and it was almost frozen and didn't respond to keys
[01:28] <felipe__> mefisto__: i've to go
[01:28] <felipe__> but thanks for the info
[01:28] <felipe__> ;)
[01:29] <mefisto__> felipe__: can you mount the drive manually?
[01:29] <phoenixz> hi there, I just installed kubuntu in a dell latitude D620.. all good and well, but the X screen on my laptop is 4:3 format, while the laptop screen is 16:9. How do I fix this?
[01:29] <felipe__> mefisto__: no i cant
[01:29] <felipe__> but thanks anyway
[01:29] <felipe__> bye
[01:30] <semistud2354> is it possible to set a password for one folder....
[01:30] <semistud2354> im using feisty
[01:30] <semistud2354> ??
[01:35] <stuq> hi all
[01:36] <stuq> in a default gutsy install on my lapper, I'm seeing both kpowersave and power manager come up in the 'system tray'
[01:36] <stuq> do I need both?
[01:36] <semistud2354> is it possible to set a password for one folder....
[01:36] <brad_> hey
[01:36] <danielviras> Hi!!
[01:36] <thomas2> whenever I import songs to amarok from windows hd it freezes
[01:36] <brad_> my wireless connection as been acting like a crazy person
[01:36] <danielviras> hi people
[01:36] <brad_> well I think both the card and the router are doing seperate bad things
[01:37] <danielviras> how's everybody
[01:37] <semistud2354> is it possible to set a password for one folder....
[01:37] <semistud2354> does anyone know
[01:37] <brad_> because sometimes I have to reset the router and sometimes restart the computer
[01:37] <danielviras> I've got a couple of questions
[01:37] <danielviras> Anyone could help me?
[01:37] <mefisto__> semistud2354: is this a folder in your home directory?
[01:38] <elzbal> danielviras: Go ahead and ask.
[01:38] <elzbal> !ask
[01:38] <Ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:38] <semistud2354> yea.../home/user/Desktop/Downloads
[01:38] <danielviras> haha, sorry, is my first time here
[01:38] <stuq> in a default gutsy install on my lapper, I'm seeing both kpowersave and power manager come up in the 'system tray'... do I need both?
[01:38] <elzbal> no worries.  :)
[01:38] <semistud2354> so is it possible
[01:39] <danielviras> well.... I just installed compiz fusion to kubuntu, but it doesn't start as the default option... I have to use the replace command every time I boot
[01:39] <semistud2354> ive got some important assignments i want to keep safe
[01:39] <danielviras> how do I set it as the default??
[01:39] <thomas1> whenever I import songs to amarok from windows hd it freezes
[01:39] <mefisto__> semistud2354: do chown --help and see if that's what you want to do. eg chown root /home/username/Desktop/downloads
[01:40] <semistud2354> it says operation not permitted....so sudo
[01:40] <semistud2354> ??
[01:41] <mefisto__> semistud2354: yep, sudo before the cmd
[01:41] <semistud2354> sudo chown root /home/username/Desktop/Downloads
[01:42] <BluesKaj> thomas , import the files to a folder in linux then to amarok later , that should work
[01:42] <mefisto__> replace "username" with your username of course, or sudo chown root ~/Desktop/Downloads
[01:42] <semistud2354> yea
[01:43] <semistud2354> then it should ask for pass when i click on downloads
[01:43] <mefisto__> semistud2354: I think it will just refuse access, unless you sudo first
[01:44] <mefisto__> semistud2354: do you want to hide the folder?
[01:44] <danielviras> does anyone know how to set compiz as my default compositing window manager????
[01:46] <elzbal> danielviras: Sorry, I, for one, am not using Compiz.
[01:46] <elzbal> danielviras: You can also try asking on #ubuntu. There's often more people over there, maybe one of them has the answer.
[01:46] <danielviras> ok... thanks anyway
[01:46] <danielviras> thanks a lot
[01:47] <danielviras> you might have the answer to this next question
[01:47] <danielviras> I have an Airlink wireless usb adapter
[01:48] <danielviras> and I tried to install the windows driver to kubuntu using ndiswrapper
[01:48] <danielviras> you know... with the .inf file
[01:48] <danielviras> but it didn't do anything at all, it says it's not a valid driver
[01:48] <danielviras> a haven't been able to use it
[01:48] <danielviras> =(
[01:48] <Crell> Hi all.  How does one initiate a Bluetooth pairing in System Settings?
[01:49] <danielviras> join #ubuntu
[01:49] <Crell> I'm in the Bluetooth configuration screen, but there's no indication of how to initiate a pairing.
[01:49] <tobias__> danielviras: I do use compiz-fusion as well, but I am not having it as my default cwm. I do not remember why, but I was told better NOT to do it because of several reasons. And I mean - I dont care about "compiz --replace" in the beginning :)
[01:50] <danielviras> well Tobias, you might be right... it's not such a big line after all, hehe
[01:50] <tobias__> danielviras: concerning your usb problem: isnt there an official linux driver for that adapter ?
[01:51] <Crell> I have a BT mouse that I am trying to pair that is in discovery mode, but I don't know how to tell KDE that.
[01:51] <danielviras> there isn't
[01:51] <danielviras> I even wrote to the company
[01:52] <danielviras> and a very kind guy offered to help me with my problem
[01:52] <PriceChild> elzbal, in future please suggest #ubuntu-effects instead of #ubuntu, or perhaps #compiz-fusion
[01:52] <danielviras> but then discovered I was using linux and said: Sorry but we don't offer linux support
[01:52] <tobias__> ._.
[01:53] <tobias__> okay maybe we can find something on the projekt side of ndiswrapper
[01:54] <tobias__> danielviras: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/index.php?/component/option,com_openwiki/Itemid,33/
[01:54] <tobias__> check this out
[01:54] <tobias__> maybe you can find something there
[01:55] <danielviras> thanks tobias
[01:55] <tobias__> I would really like to help you but I can hardly keep my eyes open
[01:55] <tobias__> :)
[01:55] <tobias__> so good luck with your problem
[01:55] <danielviras> don't worry
[01:55] <tobias__> good night
[01:55] <danielviras> go to sleep
[01:55] <fungos> Im trying to run acetoneiso2 .. it says it cant find libQtGui.so.4 but it exists in /usr/lib ....  where should I configure?
[01:55] <phoenixz> Hi there, I just installed beryl with apt-get but how can I have my session start with beryl all the time? When I start beryl from the command line, there seems to be no window decorator available :(
[01:55] <danielviras> well, here it's good day but ok
[01:55] <danielviras> have a good rest
[01:55] <phoenixz> How can I have this functioning correctly?
[01:55] <tobias__> it is 01.55am here, so :)
[01:55] <tobias__> phoenixz: #ubuntu-effects
[01:56] <tobias__> and your question is weird
[01:56] <tobias__> it doesnt make any difference if you start it automatically or by comand
[01:56] <phoenixz> tobias__, how weird?
[01:56] <tobias__> did you install emerald ?
[01:56] <tobias__> you need a window decorator before having beryl use one
[01:57] <tobias__> apt-cache search emerald
[01:57] <tobias__> then install what you need
[01:57] <tobias__> good luck as well
[01:57] <tobias__> and good night !
[01:57] <tobias__> ^^
[01:57] <phoenixz> I remember using beryl from beryl manager, which would launch into the system tray, but it doesnt anymore
[01:58] <fungos> how to say where the lib.so is located?  $ LD_PATH=/usr/lib ./app  ??
[01:59] <mefisto__> phoenixz: you can't get beryl manager started?
[02:00] <Zorix> can someone tell me what the default sound system that kubuntu uses? is it alsa?
[02:00] <javier_> alguien habla espaol???
[02:00] <danielviras> yo hablo espaol
[02:00] <danielviras> pero no creo serte muy utilk
[02:00] <javier_> hola daniel!
[02:00] <danielviras> util*
[02:00] <javier_> de donde?
[02:00] <danielviras> soy newbie
[02:00] <danielviras> de mexico
[02:00] <danielviras> tu??
[02:01] <javier_> Hiper newbie
[02:01] <javier_> Argentina
[02:01] <danielviras> yeah, argentina rules
[02:01] <danielviras> jaja
[02:01] <javier_> no entiendo?
[02:01] <Zorix> is there a channel that speaks english
[02:01] <debian> hi all
[02:01] <hydrogen> this is it Zorix..
[02:01] <Zorix> ah wasnt sure there for a min
[02:01] <hydrogen> yea
[02:01] <flaccid> lol
[02:01] <danielviras> yeah zorix, the only ones speaking english are javier and I
[02:02] <danielviras> sorry, the onluy ones speaking SPANISH
[02:02] <danielviras> that's what I menat
[02:02] <danielviras> hehe
[02:02] <Zorix> wow that some new english words hehe
[02:02] <hydrogen> not in here your not.
[02:02] <stimulus> << finially migrated over to kubuntu once i got my wireless working (WOOT WOOT)
[02:02] <danielviras> haha
[02:02] <stimulus> lol
[02:02] <Zorix> trying to figure out which sound system kubuntu uses by default
[02:02] <hydrogen> arts
[02:02] <hydrogen> which uses alsa
[02:02] <Zorix> ok
[02:03] <Zorix> i had an error on my pc at work saying cant communicate with the device: default
[02:03] <stimulus> . o (arts is a bit glitchy on my system)
[02:03] <Zorix> so i switched it from auto to oss
[02:03] <stimulus> . o (but im using 6.06 atm)
[02:03] <Zorix> but audio doesnt work now
[02:03] <flaccid> linux sound is confusing
[02:03] <stimulus> . o (waiting for 7.10 to come out)
[02:03] <hydrogen> arts has been a bit glitchy since it was released with kde2
[02:03] <Zorix> where can i find and configure arts
[02:04] <stimulus> ive only had arts crash comepletely on me twice that i remember
[02:04] <stimulus> but i rebooted the computer and everything worked fine
[02:04] <stimulus> but it happens sometimes when im doing a lot
[02:04] <mefisto__> Zorix: where did you make the change from alsa (or auto) to oss?
[02:04] <stimulus> i guess i run out of ram quickly then things start to crash
[02:04] <Zorix> in the control center
[02:04] <gustavo_> Ningum fala portugus no, ?
[02:05] <Zorix> i will force alsa and see what it does
[02:05] <Zorix> where can i find some in depth documentation about arts
[02:05] <Jucato> !pt | gustavo_
[02:05] <Ubotu> gustavo_: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[02:06] <mefisto__> Zorix: kmenu>system settings>sound system. Go into hardware tab, and change to autodetect or ALSA
[02:06] <dudeicles> can anyone tell me what linspire is and why it actually costs?
[02:06] <stimulus> linspire is a noob version of linux
[02:06] <Zorix> mefisto__ yea im going to try and do that, i had it on autodetect but it gives me an artsmessage error about not being able to talk to the device: default
[02:06] <stimulus> kubuntu IMHO is better
[02:06] <stimulus> price, i dont know
[02:07] <stimulus> if you want free linspure
[02:07] <stimulus> spire**
[02:07] <stimulus> check out freespire
[02:07] <dudeicles> looking at their site, seems they just are kubuntu
[02:07] <stimulus> pretty much the same thing
[02:07] <Zorix> kubuntu is better than any desktop distro out there i think
[02:07] <stimulus> kubuntu, give or take a little
[02:07] <dudeicles> lol
[02:07] <dudeicles> they're main points are dumb
[02:07] <mefisto__> Zorix: that may be because an app is accessing your soundcard and won't let it go, if you know what I mean
[02:08] <Zorix> mefisto__, seemed to happen after i installed 32 bit firefox in 64
[02:08] <dudeicles> they have CNR and KDE
[02:08] <dudeicles> CNR is like apt it seems
[02:08] <dudeicles> or synaptix
[02:08] <dudeicles> they add KDE, which Kubuntu has.
[02:09] <mefisto__> Zorix: have you used any programs in this current session that use sound?
[02:09] <Zorix> mefisto__, could it have been from this package: lib32asound2
[02:09] <kkathman> every distro has its KDE/gnome and its package manager
[02:09] <dudeicles> proprietary software, which is so easy to install.
[02:09] <Jucato> kkathman: not all :)
[02:09] <kkathman> so in that manner they arent that different
[02:09] <dudeicles> LOL
[02:09] <Zorix> mefisto__, lib32asound2
[02:09] <kkathman> Jucato:  no- its true for the main ones
[02:09] <Jucato> unless you don't consider slackware main :)
[02:10] <kkathman> thats why I said "main ones"
[02:10] <Jucato> ah so you don't. :)
[02:10] <kkathman> slack may be old, but its way out of mainstream imho
[02:10] <dudeicles> Jucato: Get me a cup. lol
[02:10] <stimulus> what kind of coffee do you drink jucato?
[02:11] <kkathman> and no I dont consider slack - they are kinda the linspire on the other end of the spectrum :)
[02:11] <mefisto__> Zorix: maybe log out and log in again, then try changing sound to autodetect. Or try a reboot and change it.
[02:11] <Zorix> mefisto__, tried reboot and such
[02:11] <stimulus> has anybody seen our company site lately?
[02:11] <Zorix> but i will force it to alsa and try when i go back to work in a few hours
[02:12] <Zorix> i saw all the options and wasnt sure which one autodetect was using
[02:12] <Zorix> thanks for your help
[02:14] <mefisto__> flaccid: you in oz?
[02:14] <flaccid> yep
[02:15] <flaccid> the land of opec
[02:15] <mefisto__> hehehe
[02:15] <stimulus> vittoria ..... a brand of coffee?
[02:15] <mefisto__> stimulus: yes, in australia at least
[02:16] <flaccid> its good and a bit on the dark roast side
[02:16] <stimulus> ah
[02:16] <flaccid> boss writes it off as a tax deduction
[02:16] <dudeicles> is there such thing as Fubuntu?
[02:16] <stimulus> i drink anybrand as long as its french roast
[02:16] <dudeicles> lol can you install Fedora on Ubuntu?
[02:17] <flaccid> dudeicles: not natively no
[02:17] <dudeicles> what does natively mean?
[02:17] <dudeicles> like it would need it's own partition?
[02:17] <bigleon> hitmanWilly you there? Well i managed to F up my computer again.
[02:17] <Jucato> you can't install Fedora *on* Ubuntu.
[02:17] <dudeicles> right
[02:18] <dudeicles> is it a good distro?
[02:18] <stimulus> glad as heck you cant
[02:18] <flaccid> well technically if you installed it into a vm you would be installing fedora on ubuntu
[02:18] <stimulus> i dont like fedora at all
[02:18] <stimulus> doesnt come with half the stuff i use
[02:18] <dudeicles> stimulus: how come?
[02:18] <Jucato> flaccid: that would be installing Fedora *in* a VM
[02:18] <stimulus> yet it comes with all the other stuff i will probably never use
[02:18] <stimulus> besides i perfer ubuntu
[02:18] <stimulus> over fedora
[02:18] <Jucato> YMMV
[02:18] <stimulus> or any other flavor
[02:18] <dudeicles> I like Kubuntu
[02:18] <stimulus> kubuntu is ok
[02:18] <dudeicles> it's fun
[02:18] <flaccid> indeed Jucato. but you are installing it on ubuntu
[02:18] <stimulus> im the gnome time
[02:18] <stimulus> type**
[02:18] <dudeicles> ah
[02:18] <dudeicles> lol
[02:19] <stimulus> but kde is good
[02:19] <flaccid> thats why i said not natively and technically heh
[02:19] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago!!!!!!!!
[02:19] <stimulus> its what i first started using when i was first introduced to linux
[02:19] <dudeicles> kde is just a desktop manager right?
[02:19] <dudeicles> is there others than KDE and gnome?
[02:19] <Jucato> desktop environment
[02:19] <stimulus> yes kde is a desktop manager
[02:19] <Jucato> Xfce
[02:19] <stimulus> environment i mean
[02:19] <stimulus> KDM is a desktop manager
[02:19] <dudeicles> what is Xfce?
[02:19] <Jucato> KDM is a display manager
[02:19] <stimulus> KDE is a desktop environment
[02:19] <Jucato> !xfce | dudeicles
[02:19] <stimulus> XFCE is an environment
[02:19] <Ubotu> dudeicles: xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[02:19] <flaccid> xfce is a window manager
[02:19] <stimulus> i think it means XFaCE
[02:19] <Jucato> no
[02:19] <stimulus> but im probably wrong
[02:20] <dudeicles> I mean does it change anything as far as looks?
[02:20] <Jucato> Xfce is a Desktop environment
[02:20] <stimulus> or XinterFaCE
[02:20] <stimulus> lol
[02:20] <flaccid> Jucato: what window manager does it use
[02:20] <mefisto__> dudeicles: xfce is more like gnome than kde, but is more lightweight
[02:20] <Jucato> flaccid: xfwm
[02:20] <dudeicles> ah
[02:20] <stimulus> xfce is an environment, the E in XFCE kinda gives it awayt
[02:20] <stimulus> :P
[02:20] <Admiral_Chicago> hey Jucato
[02:20] <dudeicles> Jucato: sorry
[02:20] <flaccid> ok my bad sorry
[02:21] <dudeicles> stimulus:  we may have to finish this in #kubuntu-offtopic
[02:21] <dudeicles> lol
[02:21] <flaccid> yeah flaccid only good with um on topic stuff heh
[02:21] <dudeicles> which I guess you're not in. lol
[02:23] <thomas__> hello I'm having trouble importing songs into amarok
[02:23] <thomas__> it stalls and gets reallllllly slow and then eventually stops importing
[02:23] <bigleon> Hey guys
[02:24] <bigleon> guess with leon did again
[02:24] <bigleon> what*
[02:24] <draik> Does anyone here know about Live Processing? I know it's got something to do with credit cards and merchant accounts.
[02:24] <mefisto__> thomas__: you may have some corrupt mp3s
[02:24] <thomas__> maybe but how do I find out
[02:24] <bigleon> mefisto__ you know all that work this morning, rofl it crashed again and i had to start from scratch
[02:24] <flaccid> draik: this is kubuntu support channel
[02:25] <flaccid> amarok can get like that imo
[02:25] <mefisto__> bigleon: what was that? I don't remember what you were doing
[02:25] <bigleon> upgrading from 6.10 to 7.04
[02:26] <draik> flaccid: Where do you suggest I ask? I just figured someone in here would know. I may be offered a new position and I want to get a feel for live processing.
[02:26] <bigleon> something screwed up and keyset failed
[02:26] <freeman> .......
[02:26] <freeman> why
[02:27] <flaccid> draik: #web
[02:27] <flaccid> google is best
[02:27] <draik> Google Linux and Google Hacker were of no help
[02:27] <freeman> baidu  is  better than google
[02:27] <flaccid> also wikipedia. transaction processing is usually all proprietery. anyway,,
[02:28] <draik> flaccid: IIRC, it is run under a Linux environment.
[02:28] <draik> At work anyway
[02:28] <phoenixz> Hi there, I just installed kubutu on a Dell latitude D620 laptop, which has a 16:9 screen, but I only have 1024x786 like (4:3) resolutions available.. How do I fix this??
[02:28] <dudeicles> !resolution | phoenixz
[02:28] <Ubotu> phoenixz: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:29] <mefisto__> thomas__: are you adding songs to your collection in the configure window? or are you doing something else?
[02:29] <dudeicles> follow their automatic resolution phoenixz
[02:29] <dudeicles> it worked well for me.
[02:29] <flaccid> draik: can be under anything. i do this stuff for a living..
[02:29] <thomas__> adding media
[02:30] <thomas__> mefisto__: i successfully added some by doing only a few at a time, but I still hae a lot to go
[02:30] <draik> I figure as much, but I believe I was told they [work]  run it under Linux
[02:31] <mefisto__> thomas__: how are you adding them? are you moving files to a new location?
[02:31] <flaccid> 'it' can be any prop. system..
[02:32] <thomas__> mefisto__: no, playlist > add media > and from folders
[02:32] <draik> flaccid: I just know they use Linux. I thought I'd get an idea here about it.
[02:33] <mefisto__> thomas__: have you tried from settings>configure amarok, and choosing where your songs are?
[02:33] <flaccid> draik: yeah linux is an operating system. not middleware or processing.
[02:33] <mefisto__> thomas__: in collection in the configure window
[02:33] <thomas__> mefisto__: no
[02:34] <sea4ever> ah, I finally found something I wanted in Adept
[02:34] <mefisto__> thomas__: also make sure it's using sqlite
[02:34] <thomas__> mefisto__: hold on I think I tried that, I scanned folders
[02:34] <thomas__> sqlite?
[02:35] <phoenixz> dudeicles, thanks alot!
[02:35] <thomas__> mefisto__: it works after doing a few folders maybe I can do the rest one by one
[02:35] <dudeicles> phoenixz: did it work for you also?
[02:35] <phoenixz> another question, adept manager has crashed on me, again.. Im on another computer and dont have the fix by hand: when I start adept, it says I cant modify anything because the DB is locked.. How was this quickly fixed again??
[02:36] <NickPresta> !aptfix | phoenixz
[02:36] <Ubotu> phoenixz: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[02:36] <mefisto__> in the collection section, in configure amarok. collection database (under the folders)
[02:36] <dudeicles> make sure there's nothing else using the DB
[02:36] <phoenixz> NickPresta, exactly what I was looking for, thanks a lot!
[02:37] <thomas__> mefisto__: amarok doesn't have any keyboard shortcuts, for next song, or volume....
[02:37] <phoenixz> dudeicles, Dunno yet, just started to read.. Ill let you know
[02:37] <Jucato> thomas__: it has
[02:37] <dudeicles> k :)
[02:37] <thomas__> Jucato: how do i find those out
[02:37] <Jucato> thomas__: Settings -> Configure Global Shortcuts
[02:38] <lameck> algum usurio do Kubuntu que fale portugus
[02:38] <thomas__> Jucato: hehe nice
[02:38] <Jucato> !pt | lameck
[02:38] <Ubotu> lameck: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[02:41] <sea4ever> hellow, can anyone tell me where TCC keeps it's header files?
[02:42] <mefisto__> thomas__: also some of the filenames you're adding might have odd characters, could be causing problems. see if there's anything unusual that stands out
[02:42] <draik> Jucato: Hello
[02:43] <Jucato> hi draik!! :)
[02:43] <draik> flaccid: Where is a good place to ask about using VMware Workstation. I want to load my winxp partition in there
[02:46] <thomas__> mefisto__: maybe
[02:46] <flaccid> !vmware
[02:46] <Ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[02:46] <flaccid> also #vmware and also the documentation on their site and google...
[02:50] <Almighty_Henaro> Helloooo~
[02:50] <Almighty_Henaro> Anyeone know how to get rid of the Shift+Backspace Hot key in KDE
[02:50] <Almighty_Henaro> Anyone*
[02:51] <lixiaobo> hello
[02:51] <BluesKaj> flaccid, check this out, http://www.vmware.com/download/open_source.html
[02:52] <freeman> what?
[02:53] <flaccid> when did that come out BluesKaj
[02:54] <BluesKaj> well, it ain't free flaccid ...you need a serial #
[02:54] <flaccid> yeah but when did it come out
[02:55] <flaccid> ie. open source
[02:55] <Crell> Hi all.  On a fresh Kubuntu Feisty, I was able to use the SD card reader built into my Thinkpad T61 to work out of the box.  I upgraded the kernel to 2.6.22-10 out of Gutsy, however, in order to get audio and WiFi working.  Since then, the SD card slot is ignored.  Any idea why or what to do about it?
[02:55] <BluesKaj> eagles098 ..whatever his nick was showed me a site where it was free open source
[02:55] <BluesKaj>  not sure whwn, flaccid
[02:55] <BluesKaj> when
[02:55] <flaccid> ok mate
[02:56] <kkathman> howdy BluesKaj :)
[02:56] <kkathman> sup
[02:57] <BluesKaj> hey kkathman, oh mot much ..how about you ?
[02:57] <BluesKaj> err not much :)
[02:57] <kkathman> doin ok man :)
[02:59] <BluesKaj> tried to load kubuntu 7.04 live cd on a friend's pc this aft , but it wouldn't load ...his graphics weren't supported ...MDG pc , made here in Canada , using some taiwan made onboard graphics
[03:00] <BluesKaj> so not all pc's are linux/debian/kubuntu friendly
[03:01] <BluesKaj> it's p4 with 512 ram...it should work
[03:01] <NickPresta> BluesKaj, tell me about it. My girlfriend Dell laptop's X1300 and Kubuntu doesn't seem to play nice together.
[03:02] <BluesKaj> hey NickPresta , you know the crap pc I'm talking about then...a mix of good hardware and junky peripherals
[03:02] <NickPresta> BluesKaj, indeed. It's a pain to work with...
[03:03] <BluesKaj> He wants to try Kubuntu , but i can't even demo it , a real pITA
[03:05] <NickPresta> BluesKaj, yeah. It certainly doesn't help the idea that Linux is hard to use and scary to newbies. Nothing screams "complicated" like dropping into a console and doing a `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg` to fix resolution/graphics problems :)
[03:08] <BluesKaj> yeah, no kidding , I recall having to go thru the motions a yr or so ago with daskreech and Jucato , trying to reconfigure X from the TTY prompt on irssi
[03:08] <mefisto__> I read somewhere that will be less common in gutsy, a minimal graphical fallback for x or something?
[03:08] <BluesKaj> strange, a dell that's anti- linux tho , usually they're quite linux friendly
[03:09] <purpleposeidon> I'd like to up my resolution, but system settings only goes up to 1280x1024...how to fix?
[03:09] <BluesKaj> lets hope so mefisto__ , i don't plan on spending anymore on this pc
[03:10] <BluesKaj> which graphics drivers , purpleposeidon?
[03:11] <purpleposeidon> I don't know....
[03:11] <mefisto__> is anyone using kde4? how usable is it at the moment?
[03:12] <purpleposeidon> The default ones, I guess. "Intel(r) Extreme Graphics with up to 64mb shared video memory" is what it says on the label. :P
[03:13] <BluesKaj> purpleposeidon, in the terminal type : lspci | grep -i vga
[03:14] <mefisto__> is "grep" short for something?
[03:15] <Dragnslcr> I always think it's "get regular expression"
[03:15] <Dragnslcr> I doubt that's what it's really supposed to mean though
[03:17] <mefisto__> Dragnslcr: you're close. wikipedia says it's "search Globally for lines matching the Regular Expression, and Print them"
[03:18] <Dragnslcr> Makes sense
[03:18] <purpleposeidon> only off by about 7 words, right?
[03:18] <Dragnslcr> I knew the regular expression part
[03:18] <BluesKaj> grep = prints lines matching a pattern...is all i can seem to find
[03:18] <BluesKaj> aha
[03:18] <Dragnslcr> The other two letters are kinda extraneous
[03:18] <purpleposeidon> BluesKaj: 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)
[03:19] <illriginal> Does anyone know how to tweak  cable modem by changing settings in Ubuntu????
[03:19] <flaccid> illriginal: usually you do that on the modem itself
[03:20] <BluesKaj> purpleposeidon, ok, those are good graphics from what i've heard
[03:20] <purpleposeidon> like, compiz-graphics? :D
[03:20] <mefisto__> tweak as in "make my downloads super-fast"?
[03:20] <BluesKaj> purpleposeidon, dunno for sure
[03:21] <illriginal> flaccid from my understanding there's settings on Ubuntu that sort of limits the speed
[03:21] <flaccid> where did you get this understanding from
[03:22] <mefisto__> win98?
[03:24] <arkygeek> hi
[03:25] <arkygeek> fyi:  to get a # from an iMac running ubuntu, you simply hold down the RT-ALT and hit 3
[03:25] <arkygeek> RT-ALT and 2 gives the 
[03:26] <mefisto__> thanks arkygeek!
[03:26] <|kklaubb|> is it common to download software tha you have to compile yourself?
[03:27] <arkygeek> |kklaubb|: yes, but you get a more stable system if you can get the from the repos
[03:28] <BluesKaj> purpleposeidon, k-menu/system settings/monitor&display/hardware-tab/admin mode/graphics card/configure. Find your card in the list and "apply" , same goes for the monitor, if possible.Click "test". If all is well, logout and back in again. Now you should be able to reset the resolution to your needs.
[03:29] <thomas__> i installed openssh-server. Is there any way I can open it in a GUI? Configure it?
[03:29] <hydrogen> no
[03:29] <hydrogen> well
[03:29] <hydrogen> you can open the config file in kate
[03:30] <thomas__> hydrogen: sigh, really I have to configure everything by text
[03:30] <thomas__> hydrogen: thats hard
[03:30] <hydrogen> yes
[03:30] <hydrogen> its a server program
[03:30] <thomas__> .......
[03:31] <flaccid> whats there to configure..
[03:31] <NickPresta> thomas__, most of the time, things like Apache, SSH, FTP, etc are run on boxes with X or any sort of graphical output. Hence, plain-text configuration...
[03:31] <thomas__> flaccid: what do you mean......what to configure....everything
[03:32] <ks3> thomas__, for the most part, getting an ssh server running is a matter of installing and starting the server
[03:32] <thomas__> NickPresta: yea I have apache installed on my windows machine which I configured through text but thats annoying. IS APACHE A BETTER WAY OF DOWNLOADING FILES FROM MY COMPUTER OR SSH?
[03:32] <flaccid> thomas__: what is everything? please be specific
[03:32] <ks3> thomas__, there's not generally much configuration required unless you want to customize authentication methods, etc...
[03:32] <flaccid> thomas__: dont' shout!
[03:33] <thomas__> flaccid: lmao i'm not shouting hehe
[03:33] <flaccid> there is no better way. they are different protocols for different purposes
[03:33] <flaccid> capitals = shouting
[03:33] <thomas__> flaccid: lol i guess
[03:33] <thomas__> flaccid: its more like a highlight
[03:33] <flaccid> no its not. its shouting.
[03:34] <BluesKaj> !shout
[03:34] <Ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[03:34] <thomas__> flaccid: well yes I would like to get a password and username going, and basicaly connect to my machine from other comps
[03:34] <flaccid> thomas__: thats user admin nothing to do with the ssh server
[03:34] <hydrogen> err
[03:35] <hydrogen> ssh allows you to login with the accounts on a computer already
[03:35] <hydrogen> not with special ssh accounts
[03:35] <flaccid> you can go to user management in system settings for that
[03:35] <thomas__> are you serious omg....in windows, when doing apache I had to configure all usernames and passwords
[03:35] <hydrogen> its not apache.
[03:35] <hydrogen> its ssh.
[03:35] <hydrogen> if you don't understand this you probably sohuldn't be using it
[03:36] <thomas__> hydrogen: hey you shouldn't discourage people
[03:36] <flaccid> this is not windows either
[03:36] <hydrogen> thomas__: I shouldn't discourage a first year medical student from operating on me?
[03:36] <flaccid> exactly
[03:36] <thomas__> flaccid: i know, i know i'm just stating that i guess this is much easier
[03:37] <BluesKaj> lets's keep the high horses in the stable ok gents !
[03:37] <kkathman> what hospital would have a 1st year med student operating - maybe assisting :)
[03:37] <flaccid> i'd like to think so. thomas__ its better to ask us general question on how you should do something instead of having assumptions about how you think it should be
[03:38] <thomas__> flaccid: ok well its installed
[03:38] <flaccid> ok now people can login via ssh as long as they have a valid shell. the default/first user in ubuntu has bash
[03:40] <thomas__> flaccid: if I want to log in from a windows machine?
[03:40] <hydrogen> then you need to download putty
[03:40] <hydrogen> which is a ssh client for windows
[03:41] <hydrogen> but, you will only have a terminal
[03:41] <hydrogen> so if your not happy configuring without a gui
[03:41] <hydrogen> It may not be what you are looking for
[03:41] <flaccid> other options are vnc and xdcmp and even thinclient if you require remote gui..
[03:42] <mefisto__> thomas__: are you just experimenting, or are you trying to achieve something specific?
[03:42] <thomas__> mefisto__: i'm trying to actually eventually be able to connect from somewhere
[03:43] <hydrogen> what do you want to be able to do when you connect though?
[03:44] <flaccid> lol
[03:45] <thomas__> hydrogen: download files
[03:45] <thomas__> hydrogen: or read
[03:46] <hydrogen> do you want a gui when you do so?
[03:46] <purpleposeidon> you'd probably want ftp then
[03:46] <thomas__> hydrogen: wouldn't that be easier?
[03:46] <hydrogen> thomas__: well, ssh won't give you one
[03:47] <hydrogen> purpleposeidon: well, i'd suggest scp (which runs over ssh) or sftp but
[03:47] <thomas__> well i remembber that in school they had a gui that connected to a server
[03:48] <kkathman> Im pretty sure you can run vnc via ss but I havent tried in a few months
[03:48] <izzyb> I need to install a cisco vpn client that requires me compile a new module.  the install is choking and I'm not sure why
[03:49] <purpleposeidon> izzyb: heimlich manuver. (sp?)
[03:50] <izzyb> The error I'm getting is linux/config.h: no such file or directory
[03:50] <ks3> izzyb, there's a vpnc in the repositories that is supposed to be compatible with the cisco client... haven't tried it lately, though
[03:50] <izzyb> I think it's looking in /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.20-16-generic
[03:50] <izzyb> no
[03:50] <izzyb> thanks for the tip
[03:50] <izzyb> purpleposeidon, hehe ;)
[03:51] <izzyb> but I'd like to understand this problem also (although I'll install from the repository if that works ;)
[03:51] <izzyb> I was guessing the prolbem was I didn't have kernel source
[03:51] <izzyb> so I installe dthat and the build essentials
[03:52] <izzyb> but when I try making the kernel, it complains with the above
[03:52] <izzyb> I did a make oldconfig first
[03:53] <ks3> izzyb, i don't think that file exists with the newer kernels... i believe i ran into that with another module
[03:53] <ks3> izzyb, lemme see if i can dig up the info...
[03:53] <izzyb> that seemed to work, but the make doesn't.  complains about init/built-in.o doesn't exist
[03:53] <notv> i want to dual boot feisty and vista on a laptop
[03:53] <izzyb> sorry, the error is different from above
[03:54] <izzyb> ks3, thanks...
[03:54] <notv> is it best to start from scratch or can i repartition with windows already on there
[03:54] <kkathman> notv partitioning is the least of your worries :)
[03:55] <notv> i have to have windows for school
[03:55] <kkathman> and you can do that as long as you defag and have enough room
[03:55] <notv> its a brand new laptop with 160G
[03:55] <notv> i havent even taken it out of the box yet
[03:55] <mefisto__> notv: kubuntu will do the partitioning for you when installing. But back up anything you can't afford to lose, of course
[03:56] <notv> whats the best file system to use
[03:56] <jared__> I have a quick question, if anyone has time.  :)
[03:56] <notv> do i need to partition a swap drive
[03:56] <kkathman> notv: but, vista has alot of weird things - you might check with ##windows and ask there as many of the folks there run (k)ubuntu with vista dually
[03:56] <izzyb> ks3: just found vpnc whicch is supposed to be cisco compatablle
[03:56] <izzyb> trying it now
[03:57] <notv> thanks
[03:57] <kkathman> vista, unlike XP, doesnt like to be dual booted
[03:58] <mefisto__> notv: maybe consider installing XP with kubuntu?
[03:58] <izzyb> kkathman, really?  I hadn't noticed a problem
[03:58] <notv> yea but the laptop came with vista
[03:58] <izzyb> although I have to admit, I don''t spend much time in vista :)
[03:58] <notv> i dont want to purchase a copy of windows
[03:58] <kkathman> izzyb:  kewl - I just know a few people that have had glitches
[03:58] <ks3> here's a link re: nonexistant config.h for another app - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=308477
[03:58] <BluesKaj> BCD 170 ...MBR for vista dual boot...check it out
[03:58] <ks3> it's got a dummy config.h you could try
[03:58] <kkathman> notv:  you got a laptop with NO O/S on it?
[03:58] <izzyb> well, I know the ntfs format has changed  and using any old version of ntfs tools corrupts it
[03:58] <ks3> if vpnc doesn't work out...
[03:58] <izzyb> that's a bad spot
[03:58] <kkathman> thats very unusual
[03:59] <izzyb> but modern versions seem to have that figured out
[03:59] <izzyb> ks3, thanks :)
[03:59] <kkathman> izzyb: yeah thats true
[04:02] <BluesKaj> notv, Easy BCD 170 , an app for dual booting Vista & LInux
[04:02] <notv> kkathman the laptop came with vista preinstalled
[04:03] <notv> i found a tutorial and it looks pretty straightforward
[04:03] <flaccid> sounds scary
[04:03] <notv> it says windows can create the unpartitioned space
[04:03] <notv> and then i just pop in the cd for ubuntu
[04:04] <ardchoille> notv: You're going to have to do some work if Windows creates that partition as NTFS
[04:04] <hydrogen> err
[04:04] <hydrogen> no
[04:04] <hydrogen> it creates nonpartitionedspace
[04:04] <hydrogen> that means it doesn't have a file system
[04:05] <ardchoille> Ah, ok
[04:05] <notv> wont it just leave it unpartitioned
[04:05] <hydrogen> yea
[04:05] <hydrogen> it will
[04:05] <flaccid> unallocated or an actual partition hydrogen?
[04:05] <notv> okay
[04:05] <hydrogen> unallocated
[04:05] <ardchoille> I wouldn't think Win would give you that flexibility
[04:06] <hydrogen> vista added a partitioner
[04:06] <flaccid> oh nice heh
[04:07] <notv> anyone know how to put linux on an ipod?
[04:07] <hydrogen> see rockbox.org
[04:07] <hydrogen> well
[04:07] <hydrogen> no, thats opensource firmware
[04:07] <hydrogen> that is really cool
[04:07] <ks3> ipodlinux
[04:07] <hydrogen> but its not linux
[04:07] <ks3> but i use rockbox, too
[04:07] <hydrogen> that'd be the word i was searching for
[04:07] <ks3> it rocks :)
[04:08] <flaccid> google is great for finding stuff on this :)
[04:08] <BluesKaj> !google
[04:08] <Ubotu> Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[04:08] <hydrogen> !yahoo
[04:08] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yahoo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:08] <hydrogen> wow
[04:08] <hydrogen> talk about bias
[04:08] <hydrogen> how much did google pay the ubotu developers?
[04:08] <hydrogen> to get this advantage
[04:08] <hydrogen> !live
[04:08] <Ubotu> Ubuntu Dapper 'Desktop' CD contains a Live CD (Ubuntu that runs straight off the CD and RAM) with an install option. Breezy's Live CD contained no install.
[04:09] <hydrogen> there again
[04:09] <BluesKaj> hydrogen , here's yer answer http://google.com/linux
[04:09] <mefisto__> google pays quite a lot I think
[04:10] <BluesKaj> actually google linux isn't all that great
[04:10] <BluesKaj> seems to have alotta suse and fedora lists
[04:26] <flaccid> gutsy is feeling a bit more stable now heh
[04:27] <Biovore> rgr
[04:27] <jared__> hey
[04:29] <mefisto__> is xfce pronounced X-face? how do YOU say it
[04:30] <flaccid> mefisto__: http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=pronounce+xfce&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[04:30] <Biovore> mefisto__: I say it that way
[04:30] <flaccid> mixed opinion
[04:31] <flaccid> also see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xfce
[04:32] <Jucato> http://wiki.xfce.org/faq
[04:32] <Jucato> official opinion
[04:32] <Jucato> n8k99!!
[04:33] <n8k99> hory cow! i'd better hide before Jucato sees me
[04:33] <Jucato> hory hahah!
[04:34] <n8k99> Jucato: are you in offtopic?
[04:34] <Jucato> nope
[04:34] <Jucato> trimming down on my auto-join channels  :)
[04:34] <n8k99> how bout i can pc you
[04:34] <Jucato> pc me?
[04:34] <n8k99> um, personal query or something like that
[04:34] <Jucato> ah pm
[04:35] <n8k99> yeah- month long sabbatical and all
[04:35] <Jucato> hah! you too? :)
[04:35] <Jucato> I'm in offtopic now bt
[04:35] <Jucato> btw
[04:35] <mefisto__> what about xubuntu? is the X an african "click" sound? hehe
[04:35] <Jucato> but you can pc me if you want
[04:36] <Jucato> and what would you say about edubuntu? :)
[04:41] <thomas__> hey does anyone know how to import outlook express address book to thunderbird?
[04:42] <mefisto__> thomas__: on linux? it's automatic on windows isn't it?
[04:43] <thomas__> mefisto__: yes on linux
[04:43] <thomas__> mefisto__: i have outlook express on windows
[04:43] <thomas__> mefisto__: but want info to thunderbird on linux
[04:44] <BluesKaj> thomas__, import the addressbook as an ldif file to a folder in linux , the import the file with thunderbird's addressbook using edit or tools
[04:45] <thomas__> BluesKaj: huh?
[04:46] <thomas__> BluesKaj: you mean save the windows addressbook file as name.idif then import into thunderbirtd linux?
[04:46] <mefisto__> thomas__: you could install tb in windows (if you haven't already) and import everything, then in linux point your thunderbird profile/Mail directory to use the windows tb profile/Mail directory. That's what I did. So in windows and linux, tb is more or less the same.
[04:46] <thomas__> mefisto__: aww i see
[04:47] <mefisto__> if you just want the addressbook, do what BluesKaj said
[04:47] <BluesKaj> you have to import the file from your linux filder using the options in the thunderbird address book
[04:47] <BluesKaj> err folder
[04:48] <BluesKaj> I even imported the wifes address book from her xp pc into kmail
[04:49] <mefisto__> you can also symlink firefox's bookmarks.html between windows and linux, to keep bookmarks in sync for both
[04:49] <titanio> holaa
[04:51] <thomas__> mefisto__: yea i might want to get bookmarks too but this first
[04:51] <BluesKaj> I dumped T-Bird 2.0 cuz it wouldn't launch links with FF or any other browser
[04:53] <mefisto__> BluesKaj: you have to set network.protocol-handler.app.http to /usr/bin/firefox (or whatever browser) in tb's about:config
[04:54] <thomas__> BluesKaj: i dont get what you want me to do
[04:54] <thomas__> BluesKaj: with importing as ldif
[04:54] <kubuntu> .
[04:54] <kubuntu> tem algum brasileiro aew
[04:55] <Jucato> !br | kubuntu
[04:55] <Ubotu> kubuntu: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[04:57] <BluesKaj> in outlook express, open the adressbook , look for edit or tools to export the addressbook file , it'll ask you to save as , then choose ldif  and save it a folder in windows then copy the file from the windows folder to the linux /home/yourname if you wish , then open t-bird and edit or tools  and import the file
[04:58] <BluesKaj> well gents, it's sacktime here ..getting tired ..nite all, take care
[05:07] <_2> oh my
[05:07] <flaccid> hehe
[05:07] <NightBird> yeap
[05:13] <NightBird> like mine's an mobility 1150, but flglx detects it as a mobility 200
[05:13] <flaccid> dang
[05:13] <NightBird> yeah, thats a whole 950 below what it should be
[05:13] <NightBird> ( :P )
[05:16] <flaccid> lol
[05:23] <intelikey> 
[05:23] <intelikey>  343 = 101010111_2
[05:26] <flaccid> in hex now :p
[05:27] <bob1nz> hey i keep getting e msg when i try modprobe saying that it isnt loaded?
[05:27] <thomas__> why does it time the amoutn of time that i'm away from my computer lol? anyway I connected to my computer via ssh
[05:28] <intelikey> flaccid :)
[05:28] <thomas__> i was unable to download anything because I didn't know how, GET command din't work, but how do I stop the server? or restrict people from coming in?
[05:32] <intelikey> thomas__ you can kill the server  or iptables can restrict access.
[05:32] <intelikey> flaccid   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39510
[05:32] <flaccid> you can't just run a command to get something through a ssh shell session. you don't use ssh for that usually you use scp
[05:32] <flaccid> to restrict people, its basic user management. give them the nologin shell to stop them being able to log in
[05:33] <flaccid> can you port that to ksh now please intelikey :p
[05:33] <intelikey> flaccid actually you can "get" things through ssh sessions.    ssh cat blah > blah   granted that's not the best way.
[05:34] <flaccid> yeah thats ouchy, but i guess you are right yeah
[05:34] <flaccid> thats probably similar to what scp does anyway
[05:34] <terrestre> how i can know a ip of a msn
[05:34] <intelikey> flaccid you system should have /bin/sh  and it should be posix compliant.  so it doesn't need ported...
[05:36] <NightBird> wooo it installed, it thinks it has hardware acceleration for 3d and.... glxgears crashes
[05:36] <intelikey> you/your
[05:36] <NightBird> well, I call it crashing... it's more that it locked up the syste
[05:37] <NightBird> m
[05:37] <intelikey> that's crash +1
[05:37] <intelikey> :)
[05:37] <NightBird> but everything was a lot smoother in general.... before I was using the open source driver and... well, things didn't move so smoothly...
[05:38] <NightBird> and the fglrx before that wouldn't install properly :P
[05:38] <tza_> join #ubuntu
[05:39] <hydrogen>  NightBird: did you do nvidia-glx-config enable after installing? (might be the cause of the glxgears hang)
[05:39] <NightBird> hydrogen: um.... I'm not using nvidia
[05:39] <hydrogen> oh
[05:40] <hydrogen> I thought that when you had good results with propriatery drivers it had to be nvidia
[05:40] <hitmanWilly> lol
[05:40] <NightBird> hydrogen: looks like amd/ati is cleaning themselves up actually
[05:40] <NightBird> past week or two has been filled with lots of signs of a shake up for them
[05:40] <notv> after 30 minutes of using vista im getting angry with it
[05:41] <holybovine> notv: how so?
[05:41] <hitmanWilly> yeah, i must say, i think i might see an aerial pig in the morning...lol
[05:41] <NightBird> releasing all the specs on their video cards(so far, only 2d, but 3d will be following soon), a big improvement in 3d, and support for aiglx
[05:41] <notv> its repartioner is being a bother
[05:41] <notv> wont let me give windows less than 75G
[05:41] <hydrogen> well you know that vista needs that much to be installed!
[05:41] <notv> haha
[05:41] <hitmanWilly> that's just sad...
[05:42] <intelikey> looks like i'm in for a bumpy ride
[05:42] <NightBird> whoo... 305 fps in fgl_glxgears, which is a fair bit better tahn what it was before..
[05:43] <nemisis> does anyone know how to disable suspend in fiesty?
[05:43] <NightBird> 1660 from glxgears
[05:43] <intelikey> heh.
[05:43] <intelikey> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:43] <intelikey> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[05:43] <NightBird> so... looks like 3d is back and working(and doing quite a bit better than before)
[05:44] <holybovine> notv: figures
[05:44] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, what version of X are you running
[05:44] <notv> is there much difference between kubuntu and ubuntu with kde desktop installed?
[05:44] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, that should be built in on a buntu box...
[05:44] <hitmanWilly> notlabled, zero
[05:45] <intelikey> X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.0
[05:45] <hitmanWilly> sorry, notv
[05:45] <hitmanWilly> notv all the buntu flavors are identical under the hood
[05:46] <notv> i cant wait
[05:46] <notv> to get buntu studio goin on
[05:46] <intelikey> notv no.  not much differance.  but the default apps will be the gnome apps unless you install kubuntu-desktop
[05:47] <intelikey> and i don't advise installing more than one meta package of the desktop
[05:48] <hydrogen> notv: ubuntu with the kde desktop installed just has more packages than kubuntu
[05:48] <hydrogen> because installing the kde desktop doesn't uninstall the gnome desktop
[05:48] <intelikey> and different defaults
[05:48] <notv> well thats cool. ill just stay with that. sometimes i want to use gnome
[05:49] <notv> windows is being ridiculous. im going to have to load buntu first
[05:50] <intelikey> hitmanWilly but i did mention that my nvidia card is not supported.
[05:51] <hydrogen> notv: installing vista after linux may be problematic as well
[05:51] <notv> how so?
[05:51] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, ah, didn't see that
[05:51] <hydrogen> vista may be borglike
[05:51] <hydrogen> and eat it
[05:51] <hydrogen> not sure
[05:52] <notv> well
[05:52] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, sorry, ive been in an out all night
[05:52] <notv> at least ill have linux
[05:52] <notv> thats the primary concern
[05:52] <hydrogen> as it should be :)
[05:52] <hydrogen> theres always virtualbox
[05:52] <intelikey> mbr   so you'll have to redo grub for sure
[05:52] <notv> whats that?
[05:52] <hitmanWilly> it'll take over the boot record, that's for sure
[05:52] <hydrogen> lets you run windows from within linux
[05:52] <hydrogen> virtualizing it
[05:52] <notv> but you still install it, right?
[05:53] <notv> you still install windows
[05:53] <hydrogen> yea
[05:53] <hydrogen> but from within linux
[05:53] <notv> this is amazing
[05:54] <notv> i must do this
[05:54] <hydrogen> I need windows (or osx) until someone releases a cad program that doesn't suck for linux
[05:54] <notv> i hear you
[05:54] <notv> im using pro engineering at school
[05:55] <hydrogen> because its wayyy to complicated
[05:55] <hydrogen> :)
[05:56] <hydrogen> theres a reason a good cad program costs 2k+
[05:56] <notv> yea
[05:56] <notv> theres not enough capital in an open source cad project
[05:56] <hydrogen> and 2k is kind of low end
[05:56] <intelikey> so they leave it to us high school drop outs to write it as always
[05:57] <notv> here here
[05:57] <notv> son of a
[05:57] <notv> i hit f12 let me boot from cd
[05:58] <notv> with the ubuntu start up disk format my drive for me
[05:58] <notv> will*
[05:58] <intelikey> that is a question
[05:58] <intelikey> yes
[05:58] <hitmanWilly> notv, if you tell it too
[05:58] <intelikey> actually unless you tell it not too
[05:58] <intelikey> but it will ask
[05:59] <notv> windows does want it to boot off cd
[05:59] <notv> maybe it senses its doom
[05:59] <notv> doesnt*
[05:59] <notv> crap
[06:00] <intelikey> contrarry to popular belief, on can type like that and still successuflly install linux.    i'm living proff notv
[06:00] <dudeicles> lol intelikey
[06:00] <notv> not at this rate
[06:00] <notv> maybe my disk is bad
[06:01] <dwidmann> intelikey: speeling porblem?
[06:01] <intelikey> notv is this a total wipe out and reload ?
[06:01] <notv> yes
[06:01] <intelikey> dwidmann no.   i speel liek this all the tiem
[06:02] <notv> i told it to boot from cd, but it ignored me
[06:02] <intelikey> notv then i'd sujest "badblocks" on the drive   with the "write" switch  if you can spare the time.   it will try to make three passes by default.
[06:03] <notv> oh
[06:03] <notv> there it goes
[06:03] <intelikey> but testing the full drive is a good idea if there is any chance that the disk maybe giveing errors.
[06:04] <intelikey> dwidmann  see   ^   giveing  :)
[06:04] <notv> i dunno, its working now.
[06:04] <dwidmann> intelikey: :)
[06:05] <intelikey> dwidmann but they didn't teach us how to read and write where i went to school,  they tough us how much an oz of smack was worth compaired to a kg of pot
[06:06] <Kubuntero> !info virtualbox
[06:06] <Ubotu> Package virtualbox does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:06] <intelikey> and how to hide a hand gun on your person...  things like that.
[06:06] <dwidmann> intelikey: wow, they skipped right to the useful information, kudos to them
[06:07] <intelikey> dwidmann so my spelling is attrocious <!/sp>  but i can "throw down" with the best and badest.
[06:08] <dwidmann> hehehe
[06:10] <notv> ive heard its good to put your home folder on a different drive
[06:10] <notv> will that slow things down and is it much of a good idea
[06:10] <intelikey> notv makes reloading without loosing your personal *  much smoother
[06:11] <notv> i need lowest latency possible. will separate drives affect the latency?
[06:11] <dwidmann> intelikey: fortunately for me konversation has built in spell checking.
[06:11] <intelikey> speed wise, you'll never know it, unless for some reason the other drive is slow.
[06:11] <intelikey> dwidmann :)
[06:11] <notv> well essentially its the same drive, i would just be partioning it
[06:12] <intelikey> dwidmann hehhe  try bitchx a while... lets see how you fair without it  :)
[06:12] <intelikey> notv then no differance at all.   speed overhead wise that is.
[06:12] <level1> hi, I have a key that currently causes the amarok window to appear, and I want to assign it to something else but I can't because I can't figure out where the current assignment is coming from and it overrides everything else I try to do to the key
[06:13] <dwidmann> intelikey: erm, maybe tomorrow. As for now, I need to get to bed so I can not sleep and wake up feeling terrible in the morning.
[06:13] <intelikey> dwidmann k.  shalom
[06:13] <notv> how much should i allocate for feisty, then, and should i put windows via virtual box on the same drive
[06:14] <dwidmann> intelikey: mmhmm, good night
[06:14] <level1> wow, this magical shortcut is able to do what nothing else can: open multiple instances of amarok
[06:14] <intelikey> notv about 6 to 9 gig is plenty  and probably not  if you can allocate space for it without it being in the same fs
[06:15] <notv> feisty only takes 9G?
[06:15] <intelikey> level1 heh
[06:15] <level1> notv: I personally find 6 gigs restrictive, you should allocate a few more than 6, 9 might be enough
[06:15] <intelikey> notv no. it will only take about 3g
[06:15] <intelikey> so i was liberal
[06:15] <notv> but vista takes 15
[06:16] <dwidmann> notv: shouldn't take more than 2gb, but that would be rather restrictive about what you're adding on later
[06:16] <notv> alright i ran into an x window problem
[06:16] <hitmanWilly> notv, for a default install, i'd say 10-15 would be more than enough
[06:16] <notv> how can i trouble shoot the x window issue
[06:16] <intelikey> hitmanWilly of vesta ?
[06:16] <level1> its all a matter of how much space you'll end up needing, but 9 is comfortable for most people, probably
[06:16] <dwidmann> notv: look for EE in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:16] <hydrogen> level1: probably WIN + p, right?
[06:16] <intelikey> hitmanWilly surely you aren't talking about linux ?
[06:16] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, no, for kubu...are you high?
[06:16] <level1> hydrogen: I don't think you understand the problem
[06:17] <intelikey> hitmanWilly it won't take 3g for the system
[06:17] <Kubuntero> !ps3
[06:17] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ps3 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:17] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, i like a little more breathing room
[06:17] <dwidmann> hitmanWilly: you already knew the answer to that question before you asked it :s
[06:17] <hydrogen> level1: well, if I know the key combination I might be able to tell you where its coming from
[06:17] <hydrogen> I think its probably an amarok global shortcut
[06:17] <notv> it says vesa(0): no matching modes
[06:17] <notv> (EE) screen found, but none have a usable configuration
[06:18] <hydrogen> notv: if you are  putting windows on via virtualbox it makes a partition file on the partition
[06:18] <hydrogen> so it needs to be a big enough partition to hold vista and linux
[06:18] <notv> ubuntu doesnt want me to have a screen on my toshiba
[06:18] <dwidmann> notv, that's a good start, but someone else can help you narrow it down the rest of the way, as I need to go to bed and not sleep
[06:18] <level1> hydrogen: theres a particular key on my keyboard (XF86Media) that opens a new instance of amarok, its not part of the amarok config and its not mentioned in the KMenu editor.  I want XF86Media to open the kopete window, but I can't because something is grabbing the event and redirecting it to amarok.  What?
[06:19] <hydrogen> ah
[06:19] <notv> how do i fix the x window problem?
[06:19] <Doctor_Nick> is there a way of artificially slowing down processes on linux?
[06:19] <rrbiz> I installed outlook 2000, but it needs IE4 or IE5 and either ones wanted to go online to update b4 installing, someone know a trick around this ?
[06:20] <Kubuntero> Doctor_Nick: what are you trying to do?
[06:20] <rrbiz> using wine for the installs
[06:20] <Doctor_Nick> im running a simple c program with an infinite loop
[06:20] <level1> notv: In my experience, that means that the driver you have chosen for you computer isn't working correctly and you'll have to either fix the driver or choose another one
[06:20] <Kubuntero> Doctor_Nick: toss in a sleep
[06:20] <Doctor_Nick> the caveat is that I cant use sleep :P
[06:20] <hydrogen> level1: I'd think it might be khotkeys?
[06:21] <jared__> I have a question if someone has time?
[06:21] <level1> hydrogen: it said "ERROR: Communication problem with khotkeys, it probably crashed." but I can still use my hotkeys
[06:21] <level1> !ask | jared__
[06:21] <Ubotu> jared__: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:23] <nemisis> does anyone know how to disable suspend in fiesty?
[06:23] <hydrogen> level1: hmm
[06:23] <hydrogen> level1: its a mystery!
[06:24] <level1> a myyysteryyy!
[06:24] <level1> nemisis: theres probably more than one way... do you want it perminately or temper (ack I can't spell that word)
[06:24] <jared__> Oh, okay.  Haha.  My question is this -- what program is it that you get to have the little bar at the bottom of your screen that mimics the little toolbar that the MacOS has built in?
[06:24] <level1> temporary
[06:25] <notv> how do i choose another one if it wont boot up?
[06:25] <notv> its giving me the message on install
[06:25] <jared__> I have been searching, and searching, and SEARCHING for the name, but with no luck whatsoever
[06:25] <level1> notv: you have to edit xorg.conf from the command line, unfortunately
[06:25] <notv> how do i get to that
[06:26] <notv> will it still install
[06:26] <level1> jared__: theres more than one, unfortunately, I can't remember the name of any of them
[06:26] <notv> because it seems like it freezes up
[06:26] <jared__> Awww.  :(
[06:26] <level1> notv: this is from the livecd?
[06:26] <Kubuntero> !dock
[06:26] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:26] <notv> i burned an ISO
[06:26] <Kubuntero> jared__: try kxdock
[06:26] <nemisis> jared__: temporary, something causes it to have a I/O error, repeatedly. i can't use Shift+sysrq either.
[06:26] <notv> maybe it just takes a year to run the local boot scripts..?
[06:26] <Kubuntero> !find dock
[06:26] <naknomik> I am trying to add a folder on my Samba share to my amarok collection, but can't figure out how to do that.
[06:27] <purpleposeidon> Can someone tell me the IP adress of google.com? I'm having some rather odd google-related issues.
[06:27] <Ubotu> Found: docker, haddock, kdocker, knetdockapp, kooldock (and 4 others)
[06:27] <Kubuntero> !info kooldock
[06:27] <Ubotu> kooldock: Dock for KDE with cool visual enhancements. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 521 kB, installed size 964 kB
[06:27] <Kubuntero> !info kdocker
[06:27] <Ubotu> kdocker: minimize all applications to system tray. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 100 kB, installed size 324 kB
[06:27] <Kubuntero> Hmm not quite that
[06:27] <level1> notv: you get a blank screen or a screen with a single cursor on startup?
[06:28] <notv> it was loading
[06:28] <level1> notv: they thought they have fixed that, but my laptop won't boot from the livecd either
[06:28] <bigleon> yeah thts a load screen
[06:28] <naknomik> Trying KDE 4 on Feisty. Plasma seems to be broken, has anybody successfully installed it yet?
[06:28] <level1> notv: and it takes forever?
[06:28] <bigleon> which cd level1?
[06:28] <notv> starting kernal log, bluetooth, etc, checking battery state...
[06:28] <level1> naknomik: I didn't have any trouble
[06:28] <notv> running local boot scripts
[06:28] <notv> then i have a cursor
[06:28] <notv> it appears to be frozen
[06:28] <bigleon> I'm running on a inspiron E1705
[06:29] <Kubuntero> naknomik: it's just a little broken
[06:29] <level1> bigleon: the kubuntu fiesty install cd... the only way to get it to start is to install fglrx
[06:29] <bigleon> although i only got a 6.06 cd trying to updating to feisty has been nuts
[06:29] <Kubuntero> hi bigleon :)
[06:29] <level1> bigleon: I have the same model
[06:29] <naknomik> level1: for me the panel is empty and I only see two blobs saying 'The object could not be loaded' or something to that effect.
[06:29] <bigleon> Oh whats wrong
[06:29] <bigleon> ??
[06:29] <word> lnx_: right click desktop -> configure desktop -> background section -> advanced options-> width for icon text-> Auto  lines for icon text->1
[06:29] <bigleon> i might be having same issues lmao
[06:29] <level1> naknomik: hmm... might be the newer versions... thats plasma
[06:29] <bigleon> is your modified or stock level1?
[06:30] <jared__> So, kooldock?
[06:30] <level1> notv: okay, press alt-ctrl-f4
[06:30] <level1> bigleon: its stock
[06:30] <naknomik> all I did was add backports repo and did upgrade.
[06:30] <Kubuntero> !info kxdock
[06:30] <level1> bigleon: it have a mobility radeon X1400
[06:30] <Ubotu> Package kxdock does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:30] <naknomik> it pulled all the packages. but something is sure broken.
[06:30] <bigleon> i got my states saved to my xfire page
[06:31] <Kubuntero> http://galigio.wordpress.com/2007/05/19/how-to-add-a-cool-mac-os-x-dock-in-your-linux-two-different-solutions-for-kubuntu/
[06:31] <bigleon> stats(
[06:31] <level1> naknomik: you might have more luck compiling from source or getting a livecd... you might also try getting help on #kde4-devel or at techbase.kde.org
[06:31] <naknomik> Can I add a folder to Amarok collection from samba?
[06:31] <bigleon> i got same one, so what do i need to do to get it to work?
[06:31] <Kubuntero> jared__: ^^^
[06:31] <level1> notv: do you have a login screen or some such?
[06:32] <notv> yes
[06:32] <level1> notv: you can login as root... type "root" at the prompt and then golly, I don't know if you have the password
[06:32] <notv> ubuntu@ubuntu:$
[06:32] <level1> thats a probelm
[06:32] <level1> oh, autologin, okay
[06:33] <level1> what happens when you type "sudo ls"?
[06:33] <notv> desktop
[06:33] <level1> okay, thats good
[06:33] <level1> notv: are you on a ati card, right?
[06:33] <level1> radeon or some such?
[06:34] <naknomik> What does the 'Full Upgrade' button on Adept really do?
[06:34] <notv> hmmm
[06:34] <notv> i dont know the card specs, i just bought it
[06:34] <hydrogen> naknomik: upgrades anything that can be safely upgraded
[06:34] <notv> im sure its ati
[06:34] <level1> naknomik: it should get all the new upgrades for ubuntu and upgrade it
[06:34] <hydrogen> after fetching new lists from the repo's
[06:34] <notv> ati radeon
[06:34] <level1> notv: okay, try typing "sudo apt-get install fglrx"
[06:34] <notv> yes
[06:34] <bigleon> level1: do i need to run like sudo apt-get install fglrx
[06:35] <bigleon> oh prolly then yes lol
[06:35] <level1> and answer yes if asks any questions
[06:35] <notv> beep
[06:35] <notv> whirr
[06:35] <level1> lol, thats the only way I got it working
[06:35] <bigleon> don't forget to give ur pass if it ask lmao
[06:35] <notv> couldnt find
[06:35] <logreeval> Hello, I was just curious about what the difference between the gnome and KDE difference is?
[06:35] <naknomik> level1: that's what I did after adding backports (Unsupported Updates) repository. and KDE4 was pulled in.
[06:35] <level1> notv: does taht computer have internet?
[06:35] <naknomik> How do I know if what I got was KDE4 beta 2?
[06:35] <notv> sure
[06:36] <notv> well
[06:36] <level1> naknomik: maybe you need a few more upgrades... sometimes its hard to know
[06:36] <notv> i have a wireless network
[06:36] <hydrogen> logreeval: mentality and look
[06:36] <Kubuntero> logreeval: really want to get into that? :)
[06:36] <notv> i found a forum page
[06:36] <bigleon> yo level1 you get ur buttons to work on front of your laptop ?
[06:36] <naknomik> level1: and how do I get those few more upgrades?
[06:36] <level1> notv: oh, I don't know how to connect to a wireless on the commandline, I know its possible
[06:36] <logreeval> hydrogen: cool Kubuntero: maybe ;)
[06:36] <level1> hold on, let me see if I can find out
[06:36] <notv> levell the forum says to choose an alternate install cd because the graphical install wont recognize the card
[06:37] <Kubuntero> logreeval: what are you looking for?
[06:37] <naknomik> Can I add a folder on Samba share to Amarok collection?
[06:37] <logreeval> Well, i was just thinking of looking for a little bit lighter
[06:37] <level1> bigleon: I seem to remember they "just worked" but theres a way to get them working if you have toruble
[06:37] <logreeval> running system
[06:37] <level1> notv: that might be a good idea, but you don't have to
[06:38] <notv> whats the easiest solution levell?
[06:38] <bob1nz> i keep getting this message when doing modprobe not sure what it means
[06:38] <bob1nz> The program 'modprobe' can be found in the following packages:
[06:38] <bob1nz>  * modutils
[06:38] <bob1nz>  * module-init-tools
[06:38] <bob1nz> Try: sudo apt-get install <selected package>
[06:38] <bob1nz> bash: modprobe: command not found
[06:38] <notv> nstalling Windows XP drivers for Atheros AR5007EG wireless chipset:
[06:38] <level1> !paste | bob1nz
[06:38] <Ubotu> bob1nz: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:38] <bigleon> Kubuntero i can't seem to remeber where i remeber you from?
[06:38] <bigleon> were you on lastnight when i was having hell?
[06:38] <bob1nz> sorry
[06:38] <Kubuntero> bigleon: Konversation hates you
[06:38] <level1> bob1nz: its okay
[06:39] <level1> notv: you have an atheros wireless card?
[06:39] <logreeval> Kubuntero: Would i notice a difference with a 2.0 GHz 512ram 40gig hard drive computer switching to KDE?
[06:39] <bigleon> that it does kubuntero
[06:39] <Kubuntero> logreeval: well it's kinda funny
[06:39] <bigleon> i just had a 102 sec lag spike
[06:39] <bob1nz> does anyone know what it means though
[06:39] <Kubuntero> logreeval: I think that gnome uses less RAM on boot up but KDE uses much less RAM on actual usage
[06:39] <bigleon> what are you switching from longreeval
[06:39] <bigleon> kde is jsut better
[06:39] <bigleon> end of story
[06:40] <logreeval> lol
[06:40] <logreeval> well im in a biased channel ;)
[06:40] <bigleon> gnome is like natures retard
[06:40] <bigleon> :P
[06:40] <logreeval> i have Ubuntu regular gnome version
[06:40] <bigleon> the lemming haha
[06:40] <level1> bigleon: some people do find kde is too slow for them, but unless you have a slow computer there is really no reason to use gnome
[06:40] <bigleon> I got 2 gb's under the hood
[06:40] <bigleon> plus 160gig's of hd space
[06:40] <Kubuntero> logreeval: Here's the twisted thign about Linux
[06:40] <hydrogen> gnome is just as fat as kde
[06:41] <level1> logreeval: its worth giving it a whirl, you can always uninstall it later
[06:41] <Kubuntero> logreeval: You can try it ... for free ... for as long as you like
[06:41] <Kubuntero> It's Krazy
[06:41] <bigleon> Rofl
[06:41] <notv> how do i enable all the repositories with no gui?
[06:41] <logreeval> Kubuntero: well im running ubuntu right now so cant i just install kubuntu from the synaptic?
[06:41] <hydrogen> and you can get a full refund at any point!
[06:41] <Kubuntero> but you actually get to decide from multiple choices which one works for you .. for free
[06:41] <hydrogen> notv: i think you can from within aptitude
[06:41] <Kubuntero> !kubuntu
[06:41] <Ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[06:41] <Daisuke_Laptop> notv: sudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:41] <level1> notv: lol, well you have to do "editor /etc/apt/sources.list"
[06:42] <Kubuntero> logreeval: just install the package kubuntu-desktop
[06:42] <notv> i picked a bad night for this
[06:42] <Daisuke_Laptop> and uncomment the ones you need
[06:42] <bigleon> 8 minutes left after 4 hours of updates wooo
[06:42] <Kubuntero> to get rid of it is easy as well :-)
[06:42] <level1> notv: lol, usually, this "just works" but for some reason certian video cards really suck
[06:42] <logreeval> Kubuntero: then what?
[06:42] <Daisuke_Laptop> Kubuntero: make sure he uses aptitude, otherwise it's not so easy to remove.
[06:42] <notv> do i need ndiswrapper first>?
[06:42] <logreeval> Kubuntero: restart? ctrl alt backspace?
[06:42] <notv> yea damn you radeon
[06:43] <Kubuntero> Daisuke_Laptop: huh? Oh to remove it
[06:43] <bigleon> ndiswrapper is a nitmare notv
[06:43] <Kubuntero> logreeval: Logout then on the login screen choose KDE
[06:43] <Daisuke_Laptop> no, use aptitude to install or remove
[06:43] <level1> notv: well, for an atheros card you should be a able to get it working without ndiswrapper
[06:43] <level1> am I right boys?
[06:43] <Daisuke_Laptop> aptitude is better at handling dependencies (which is all the kubuntu-desktop is) and can remove them easily
[06:43] <logreeval> Kubuntero: ok....but how big is the download of kubuntu-desktop?
[06:43] <Daisuke_Laptop> yep, atheros is pretty easy
[06:43] <Daisuke_Laptop> ath0
[06:44] <naknomik> Is there a way to add a folder on samba share to Amarok collection?
[06:44] <level1> Daisuke_Laptop: apparently the driver is still lrm... I tought it was free
[06:44] <Daisuke_Laptop> hrmm
[06:44] <bigleon> thanks alot Kubuntero you talk about konversation hating me and it goes on a hate streak
[06:44] <level1> naknomik: have you tried it?
[06:45] <flaccid> naknomik: it should get mounted to /media/something
[06:45] <notv> i have no idea what to do next
[06:45] <notv> i dont think im connected to the net
[06:45] <level1> notv: have you modified sources.list?
[06:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> i take it you're not on the affected machine
[06:45] <bigleon> notv try and ping google.com to see if yo have a connection
[06:45] <bob1nz> hey sorry bwt before i pasted it here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37289/ if any one can help
[06:45] <level1> well, you have to do "iwconfig ath0" and see what it does, but you might consider dling and installing the alternate install cd.
[06:46] <naknomik> flaccid: I visited smb://host/folder in conq, how would that get mounted as /media/something?
[06:46] <Kubuntero> Daisuke_Laptop: you can just remove kdelibs4c2a and it will drag the rest of KDE with it
[06:46] <hitmanWilly> heh, i wonder how much traffic google gets every day from test pings...
[06:46] <level1> bol
[06:46] <bigleon> hitmanWilly from me, a shit load
[06:46] <hitmanWilly> same here
[06:46] <level1> bob1nz: did you do "sudo modprobe suchandsuch"?
[06:46] <flaccid> naknomik: sorry i misread. i believe you have to mount the samba share to somewhere either /mnt or /media ie. put it in your fstab
[06:46] <bigleon> i let my computer ping it from an entire  vacation just to see how many packets i would loose over period of 2 weeks
[06:46] <flaccid> !samba | naknomik
[06:46] <Ubotu> naknomik: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:47] <flaccid> first link naknomik
[06:47] <bob1nz> yes i did sudo modprobe saa7134
[06:47] <hitmanWilly> considering that's the site i would imagine most people test ping, i imagine a lot
[06:47] <level1> hitmanWilly: google does'nt pay for bandwidth, so why not?
[06:47] <Kubuntero> !language | bigleon
[06:47] <Ubotu> bigleon: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:47] <bigleon> woah did i say something?
[06:47] <level1> yeah, I didn't see him swear
[06:47] <bigleon> yup... gah
[06:47] <bigleon> i used the big 4 letter s word
[06:48] <level1> oh
[06:48] <bigleon> it's sad when i didn't even see my self
[06:48] <notv> file name to write: /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:48] <hitmanWilly> sudo? lol
[06:48] <notv> error writing , permission denied
[06:48] <notv> it wont let me save the changes
[06:48] <bigleon> "for the love of SUDO!"
[06:48] <level1> bob1nz: thats weird... modprobe should be install... why not try installing it?
[06:48] <level1> sudo get me a cup of coffee!
[06:48] <bob1nz> i tried will do it again and paste the output
[06:48] <bigleon> yo level one where did you get fglrx
[06:48] <level1> notv: when you did it, did you do it with "sudo"?
[06:48] <notv> i thought i was in autoroot
[06:49] <level1> notv: nah, try again with sudo... my mistake, sorry
[06:49] <level1> never heard of autoroot
[06:49] <bigleon> auto root sounds like a linux myth
[06:49] <notv> got it
[06:49] <notv> yea i made it up
[06:50] <notv> what do i do next?
[06:50] <level1> bigleon: linux myths, lol... did you hear reiser killed his wife?
[06:50] <level1> guess thats not a myth
[06:50] <bigleon> "and today we will open the book of "autoroot" "
[06:50] <notv> do i need drivers for the ati card and the atheros card?
[06:50] <bigleon> reiser?
[06:51] <Kubuntero> level1: they proved it?
[06:51] <level1> notv: well, to get online, you have to do iwconfig... if you don't have drivers for your cards, then theres no use, just get the alternate install cd, so lets assume you do
[06:51] <bob1nz> heres the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/159/
[06:51] <level1> Kubuntero: thats what i heard, maybe I'm wrong
[06:51] <level1> hey, his file system was good
[06:51] <jared__> Okay....I got KoolDock and it's AWESOME!!!
[06:52] <level1> Kubuntero: wow, thats weird
[06:52] <level1> Kubuntero: did you try 'sudo apt-get install modprobe'?
[06:52] <jared__> But my next question is this -- how do you move it to the top of the screen?
[06:52] <Kubuntero> level1: Eh?
[06:52] <jared__> Or can you?  is that even possible?
[06:52] <level1> oh sorry
[06:52] <level1> Kubuntero: not you, bob1nz
[06:52] <jared__> I've seen some screenshots where the dock was up top....
[06:52] <bigleon> oh god... i'm scared i just wantched linux remove everything
[06:52] <bigleon> x-server
[06:53] <bigleon> i have a feeling next time i reboot... it's not going to work
[06:53] <level1> bigleon: what did you do?
[06:53] <bigleon> apt-get -f install
[06:53] <notv> what if i update the network interfaces
[06:53] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, did it remove it or just upgrade it
[06:53] <bigleon> i don't see it installing a new verison
[06:53] <bigleon> only removing
[06:53] <level1> bigleon: uh oh
[06:54] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, ok, this is fixable, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:54] <hitmanWilly> before you reboot
[06:54] <level1> notv: I think you want to do "sudo iwconfig essid yourrouter"
[06:54] <kkathman> lol
[06:54] <bigleon> i have unment depdencies
[06:55] <naknomik> I have a linux machine with some files to share, what would be faster/efficient way to share those? samba or nfs?
[06:55] <notv> essid yourrouter?
[06:55] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, ok, sounds like the upgrade borked
[06:55] <kkathman> naknomik: mixed network ??
[06:55] <bigleon> hitman i'm going to cry if that happened
[06:55] <naknomik> kkathman: yes.
[06:55] <kkathman> naknomik: and is time a factor?
[06:55] <kkathman> i.e. you need it working immediately?
[06:55] <notv> what is "yourrouter" supposed to be
[06:55] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, ok, there may be a way, hold on...
[06:55] <level1> notv: do you know the name of your wireless router? also, is it wep protected? (ie needs a password)?
[06:55] <notv> the model number?
[06:56] <notv> yes its wep protected
[06:56] <notv> ive got the pw
[06:56] <notv> i dont know its name
[06:56] <naknomik> kkathman: I already have samba setup, but would exporting the same shares as NFS make access from linux machines faster?
[06:56] <Kubuntero> bigleon: Did it just remove X ?
[06:56] <level1> notv: usually, when you connect to a wireless router, it has a name like "linksys" or "2Wire729" or something
[06:56] <bigleon> well i ran the orginal install script again
[06:56] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, apt-get install xserver-xorg
[06:56] <kkathman> naknomik:  quite possibly yes
[06:57] <kkathman> naknomik:  however it might be only neglibly
[06:57] <notv> im connected to it on this computer via ethernet. can i locate the routers name somewhere/?
[06:57] <bigleon> what is deforma?
[06:57] <level1> notv: okay, "sudo iwconfig essid yourrouter key s:yourpassword" should be it
[06:57] <bigleon> i've seen alot of  "errors" there
[06:57] <level1> notv: that could have save us a lot of time
[06:57] <level1> notv: you have an ethernet connection?
[06:57] <Kubuntero> defoma ?
[06:58] <bigleon> something like that sorry it's scrolling uber quick XD
[06:58] <notv> yea but i only have the one cable
[06:58] <level1> notv: oh, bummer
[06:58] <level1> notv: well, see, I'm not sure how to make the computer connect to the router once you plug it in... you might try rebooting
[06:58] <naknomik> Does Amarok support DAAP?
[06:59] <Kubuntero> your font server it sounds like
[06:59] <Kubuntero> naknomik: Yes
[06:59] <level1> notv: but maybe you should just get the alternate install cd and do that
[06:59] <naknomik> Kubuntero: how do I use it? I have a DAAP (firefly) running on the network.
[07:00] <bigleon> man i love american pie 1 a good movie every time
[07:00] <bigleon> okay i'm scared i just this long list of stuff being removed
[07:00] <level1> bigleon: whats going on?
[07:00] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, ok, you may need to reinstall
[07:01] <bigleon> updates
[07:01] <bigleon> it's installing too
[07:01] <bigleon> level1 what is that video driver i need to install ???
[07:01] <bigleon> fglrx or w/e
[07:01] <level1> bigleon: you have my computer, right?  with an X1400?
[07:01] <bigleon> yup
[07:01] <level1> bigleon: I use vesa
[07:01] <level1> bigleon: its faster than fglrx
[07:01] <bigleon> w/e works
[07:02] <level1> whats w/e?
[07:02] <bigleon> what ever
[07:02] <level1> bigleon: vesa is the fallback driver... it will do all the rendering on the cpu, and the cpu on that computer is faster than the video card
[07:02] <Daisuke_Laptop> level1: that's awesome if you don't want any 3d.  at all
[07:03] <level1> Daisuke_Laptop: well, its not worth running compiz on an ati card
[07:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> this is true.
[07:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> should be getting better soon though.
[07:03] <level1> Daisuke_Laptop: I'm all for it if you have an nvidia card, but if you have an ati card, its just not worth it
[07:03] <bigleon> so i'll let you know when this pack stops so you can give me how too i think it's almsot done its going through things that start with "X"
[07:04] <level1> Daisuke_Laptop: also, on that laptop, fglrx could actually cause the cpu to overheat
[07:04] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, after that stops, try installing kubuntu-desktop again
[07:04] <level1> and its a much nicer cpu than graphics card
[07:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> now this is multitasking.
[07:05] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, i've got to get some sleep, work tomorrow
[07:05] <bobthecow> i've got this crazy split screen thing that happens every time my monitor suspends... anyone run into that?
[07:05] <naknomik> How do I get Amarok to play MP3s?
[07:05] <bobthecow> http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/8474/dsc00123ji3.jpg
[07:05] <level1> naknomik: you have to install libxine-extracodecs I think is the package
[07:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> munching on key lime pie, arguing the merits/perils of ati cards, and studying for a trig exam at 10:30 tomorrow morning :\
[07:06] <bigleon> have a good night hitman
[07:06] <hitmanWilly> heh, later than
[07:06] <level1> naknomik: if you'r using amarok, you should invest in using pgsql
[07:06] <naknomik> I already have a mysql server running on network.
[07:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> level1: *depending on collection size
[07:07] <level1> naknomik: it makes amarok about 1.72 million times faster, according to benchmarks
[07:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> i would drown in update time if i relied on sqlite
[07:07] <level1> naknomik: mysql is also good
[07:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> i use mysql and it's a whole lot nicer than the default.
[07:07] <naknomik> level1: do I need to have a mysql/pgsql running locally on or one on my lan is ok?
[07:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> if you have a couple hundred songs, sqlite is fine
[07:07] <level1> Daisuke_Laptop: I think they should make sql the default
[07:07] <naknomik> Daisuke_Ido: I have about 5000
[07:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> level1: i agree, but that means making mysql a default install
[07:08] <level1> naknomik: I'm not sure, actually, you might need to install it locally
[07:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> naknomik: go mysql
[07:08] <level1> Daisuke_Laptop: maybe someone can make an autoscript
[07:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> i'm sitting on 22k+, so sqlite is NOT an option
[07:08] <level1> Daisuke_Laptop: is mysql different that pgsql as far as amarok is concerned?
[07:08] <\\CrAnE> Hi, I am trying to install build-essential-11.1 and it says i need dpkg-dev first ??? could someone tell me what that means please?
[07:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> level1: don't think so
[07:09] <naknomik> actually I'm thinking using a DAAP only, as all my songs on the server that already runs a DAAP server.
[07:09] <Daisuke_Laptop> \\CrAnE: why not just install build-essential?
[07:09] <Daisuke_Laptop> rather than a particular version
[07:09] <naknomik> does Amarok need a plugin to enable DAAP support?
[07:09] <\\CrAnE> I don't know I am new at this is that easier?
[07:09] <Jucato> \\CrAnE: run "sudo apt-get install build-essential" in Konsole. waaay easier
[07:09] <Daisuke_Laptop> if you're new, why are you building things? :)  most of what you'll ever need is in the !repositories
[07:10] <\\CrAnE> thank you so much Jucato!!
[07:10] <Jucato> !compile | \\CrAnE
[07:10] <Ubotu> \\CrAnE: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:10] <Jucato> \\CrAnE: Kubuntu has around 20,000 packages. There's a big chance what you're trying to compile is already there
[07:11] <level1> a lot of people what linuxes to install everything from source... these are the same people that make configure scripts that refuse to work correctly
[07:11] <\\CrAnE> You are awesome Jucato ;)!!!!
[07:12] <Jucato> no I'm not :)
[07:12] <level1> why can't configure just *pretend* to work
[07:12] <Jucato> level1: because it's not from MS? It doesn't want to lie? :)
[07:12] <level1> lol
[07:13] <baudthief> anyone running compiz with an nvidia card?
[07:13] <baudthief> *fusion
[07:13] <level1> baudthief: I have, whats the problem?
[07:13] <bobthecow> baudthief: yep
[07:13] <CrackityJonesBab> aloha
[07:13] <baudthief> http://www.horizons-edge.com.au/snapshot14.png <=- thats the problem lol
[07:14] <level1> !anyone
[07:14] <Ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:14] <baudthief> thats what happens after I run compiz -- replace
[07:14] <baudthief> usable area turns into a small square, the rest of the screen is blank
[07:14] <level1> I'm amazed you got a screenshot of that, thats incredible
[07:14] <baudthief> hah yeah I'm surprised it even worked
[07:14] <bobthecow> that's pretty cool...
[07:14] <CrackityJonesBab> Does anyone/anybody know how to use the start menu?
[07:14] <CrackityJonesBab> joke
[07:14] <level1> maybe?
[07:15] <Jucato> Start what?
[07:15] <level1> oh, you mean the taskbar
[07:15] <Jucato> hm... you're all amazed while baudthief is annoyed :)
[07:15] <CrackityJonesBab> just injecitng humor into the situation.
[07:15] <baudthief> lol
[07:15] <level1> baudthief: what card, what driver?
[07:15] <Jucato> baudthief: tried asking in #ubuntu-effects ?
[07:16] <naknomik> How do I add a DAAP support for Amarok?
[07:16] <level1> I'm not a fan of aramanth's repository... the kde support is non-exsistant
[07:16] <Jucato> naknomik: if you don't get an answer in here, you can try #amarok
[07:16] <level1> so I don't use compiz
[07:16] <baudthief> Jucato: No reply, car is nvidia 7600GS / 256MB
[07:16] <baudthief> driver... well, to be honest I have no idea lol, its the latest proprietary one
[07:16] <CrackityJonesBab> i finally got beryl to work. :)
[07:16] <baudthief> I think I used envy to install it
[07:17] <Jucato> naknomik: amarok seems to also have a handbook. might find something there
[07:17] <level1> baudthief: there have been some complaints about envy
[07:17] <Jucato> !envy
[07:17] <Ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[07:17] <level1> those kinds of complaints
[07:17] <Jucato> the basic reasoning about these 3rd-party scripts/tools is that they're 3rd party. we cannot guarantee support for them
[07:18] <\\CrAnE> one more question whats the path to my tcl library?
[07:18] <CrackityJones> is automatix third party?
[07:18] <level1> baudthief: you might try uninstalling the drivers and then reinstalling them using the repositories
[07:18] <baudthief> I just followed a tutorial of how to upgrade to compiz from beryl heh - they recommended using that tool to upgrade my nvidia drivers. I did, then installed compiz - wasn't impressed, so I uninstalled compiz and went back to beryl - however now beryls crashing alot, so I wanna give compiz another shot and apply some fixes heh
[07:18] <Jucato> CrackityJones: oh most definitely
[07:18] <Jucato> !automatix | CrackityJones
[07:18] <Ubotu> CrackityJones: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[07:19] <baudthief> level1: will do, gotta get my laptop out in case everything breaks lol
[07:19] <CrackityJones> okay. i won't use it anymore.
[07:19] <\\CrAnE> what is a tcl library?
[07:19] <Jucato> CrackityJones: use it if you want to or if it works for you. but that will basically be your responsibility. and we can't officially recommend it ;)
[07:19] <baudthief> what package am I looking for in the repositories?
[07:19] <Jucato> \\CrAnE: what are you trying to compile?
[07:19] <CrackityJones> but the default installer and synaptic are supported, right?
[07:20] <\\CrAnE> eggdrop
[07:20] <bob1nz> can someone tell me how to change my tuner card number its currently 0 unknown/generic and it needs to be number 3 i think
[07:20] <Jucato> CrackityJones: of course. anything that's in the official repositories are supported (to varying degrees)
[07:20] <level1> what would you need automatix for?  if you know the names of the packages you can do  all the work yourself
[07:20] <CrackityJones> okay
[07:20] <Jucato> !info eggdrop | \\CrAnE
[07:20] <Ubotu> \\crane: eggdrop: Advanced IRC Robot. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.6.18-1 (feisty), package size 461 kB, installed size 1132 kB
[07:20] <CrackityJones> just used automatix for my complimetary dvd codecs.
[07:21] <Jucato> \\CrAnE: like what I said earlier, try to search in and use the package management first before you go out compiling stuff
[07:21] <level1> CrackityJones: I think the package for that is dvd-css2 or something
[07:21] <CrackityJones> okay cool.
[07:21] <\\CrAnE> i did
[07:21] <\\CrAnE> and its telling me to do sometihng i dont understnad
[07:21] <Jucato> \\CrAnE: what?
[07:22] <\\CrAnE> ./configure --with-tclinc='<full path to tcl.h>'
[07:22] <\\CrAnE>             --with-tcllib='<full path to Tcl library>'
[07:22] <level1> CrackityJones: actually, it might be libdvdread3
[07:22] <naknomik> How do I configure extra keys on my media keyboard?
[07:22] <Jucato> \\CrAnE: you're not using the package manager. you're trying to compile
[07:22] <Jucato> !keys
[07:22] <Ubotu> Trying to get your Multimedia keyboard working in KDE? No Problem take a look at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys
[07:22] <nalle> .
[07:23] <CrackityJones> i'll check it out. okay, say i uninstall automatix: will it also uninstall the codecs? or do they stay on my system?
[07:23] <klobster> is there an nvidia fan control program available?
[07:23] <\\CrAnE> iam sorry jucato i am so stupid with this... where is the package manager
[07:23] <Jucato> \\CrAnE: K Menu -> System -> Adept Manager. search for eggdrop, right-click -> Request Install. click on Apply Changes, and you're done
[07:23] <level1> CrackityJones: I'm sure everything it did will still remain
[07:23] <Jucato> !software
[07:23] <Ubotu> A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[07:24] <baudthief> Am I also supposed to remove nvidia-kernel-* as well as nvidia-glx?
[07:24] <Jucato> \\CrAnE: read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware specially the part for Kubuntu (scroll down a bit)
[07:24] <\\CrAnE> k
[07:25] <level1> "Please NOTE that downloading and installing w32codecs, libdvdcss2 and other non-free codecs without paying a fee to the concerned authorities constitutes a CRIME in the United States of America" Somewhat dubious legal advice - the issue has nothing to do with fees, and isn't just limited to the USA.
[07:25] <level1> what does that mean?
[07:25] <CrackityJones> level.....proprietary codecs. they're owned by companies.
[07:25] <Jucato> it means that in some countries, it's illegal to use those stuff without permission
[07:25] <Jucato> and sometimes permission requires the payment of fees... sometimes it's just plain illegal
[07:26] <level1> CrackityJones: I meant the afterthought... I'm familar with the part in quotes
[07:26] <Daisuke_Laptop> and sometimes arnieboy's just talking out of his gluteus maximus.
[07:26] <level1> where are you?
[07:26] <mefisto__> can anyone recommend a search tool for kde that's better than the default Find Files/Folders?
[07:26] <Jucato> somewhere you won't find :)
[07:26] <Jucato> mefisto__: locate:/ in Konqueror?
[07:27] <Jucato> which is basically a frontend to locate/slocate in the command line
[07:27] <level1> I'd pay money to the dvd consortium if I had to, I just don't understand why I have to use windows just to play dvds
[07:27] <Jucato> which is basically a simple search/indexing program
[07:27] <jokijo> hey everyone, i JUST switched to kubuntu, never been on any linux ever, migrated from xp
[07:27] <mefisto__> Jucato: that only searches linux disks, right?
[07:28] <Jucato> mefisto__: it searches whatever's indexed by the locate db... I don't know how to configure that though :)
[07:28] <Jucato> all I know is how to update the db: sudo updatedb
[07:29] <\\CrAnE> ok I dont have an adept-manager so I went to the add/remove thingy added something called adept
[07:29] <\\CrAnE> an when i try to open it
[07:29] <\\CrAnE> it has an error
[07:29] <AmyRose> How do I get OpenOffice.org to stop using that horrible bytecode font hinting, without having to recompile FreeType?
[07:29] <Jucato> \\CrAnE: what do you mean you don't have Adept Manager?
[07:29] <Jucato> and what's the error
[07:29] <Jucato> hi AmyRose. :)
[07:29] <Jucato> (sorry no idea about that one)
[07:29] <AmyRose> hi, Jucato
[07:29] <level1> hey AmyRose
[07:29] <\\CrAnE> Could not launch menu item
[07:29] <\\CrAnE> Details: Failed to execute child process "kdesu" (No such file or director
[07:30] <Jucato> O.o
[07:30] <bobthecow> \\CrAnE how did you manage to get rid of kdesu?
[07:30] <bobthecow> open a terminal
[07:30] <\\CrAnE> i have no idea what kdesu is?
[07:30] <Jucato> \\CrAnE: ok I'll try to make this simple: in Konsole, type "sudo apt-get install eggdrop"
[07:30] <bobthecow> sudo apt-get install kdesu
[07:31] <Jucato> bobthecow: I don't think kdesu is a separate package
[07:31] <Jucato> it's part of kdelibs or kdebase last I checked)
[07:31] <\\CrAnE> lol
[07:31] <Kubuntero> jokijo: Wlecome
[07:31] <Jucato> yep, kdebase-bin
[07:31] <bobthecow>  yeah
[07:31] <bobthecow> that one.
[07:32] <Kubuntero> AmyRose: play any games?
[07:32] <Daisuke_Laptop> o-ho-ho i am sooo screwed :\
[07:32] <Jucato> thanks :)
[07:32] <genii> np
[07:32] <\\CrAnE> ok i give up
[07:32] <Kubuntero> Daisuke_Laptop: family chan! we dont want to hear about it!
[07:32] <bobthecow> don't give up...
[07:32] <Jucato> oh crap... coffee at 32.3 C doesn't sound nice...
[07:32] <\\CrAnE> Reading package lists... Done
[07:32] <\\CrAnE> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:32] <\\CrAnE> E: Couldn't find package eggdrop
[07:32] <Kubuntero> !info eggdrop
[07:32] <Ubotu> eggdrop: Advanced IRC Robot. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.6.18-1 (feisty), package size 461 kB, installed size 1132 kB
[07:32] <level1> hey genii... you were one of the first people to help me with a linux problem... I was premiersullivan back then
[07:33] <Kubuntero> \\CrAnE: it's in universe :)
[07:33] <AmyRose> darn it, the OpenOffice.org Font Guide recommends that crappy bytecode interpreter...
[07:33] <level1> genii: I still can't get that tvtuner to work
[07:33] <Jucato> someone help \\CrAnE for a while.. need to be gone...
[07:33] <Jucato> !openoffice
[07:33] <Ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org
[07:33] <bobthecow> it's in universe, but he's got no graphical installer..
[07:33] <Jucato> AmyRose: there's a channel there ^^^^
[07:33] <genii> level1: Ah, I think that was the USB TV Wonder yes?
[07:33] <\\CrAnE> you all are a whole lot nicer then #linux on undernet
[07:33] <level1> genii: USB2... I amazed you remember
[07:33] <\\CrAnE> i cant beleive you can put up with me
[07:33] <Kubuntero> AmyRose: Play Unreal?
[07:33] <\\CrAnE> haha
[07:33] <Kubuntero> \\CrAnE: We try to be nicer than * :)
[07:33] <Jucato> \\CrAnE: you're just lucky I don't feel hungry yet :)
[07:34] <\\CrAnE> oh an universe??
[07:34] <\\CrAnE> what??
[07:34] <genii> level1: Hopefully soon some drivers will be around
[07:34] <level1> lol, amyrose really doesn't like you, Kubuntero
[07:34] <bobthecow> kk. \\CrAnE. this is going to be fun.
[07:35] <Kubuntero> level1: I guessed :)
[07:35] <Kubuntero> !repos | \\CrAnE
[07:35] <Ubotu> \\CrAnE: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:35] <\\CrAnE> i can make it a little easier on you bobthecow
[07:35] <level1> genii: my mom wants me to set up a media center for her
[07:35] <crane> hmm
[07:35] <crane> n/m someone owns this name
[07:35] <bobthecow> crane thx
[07:35] <genii> underdog5004: Heys I'm alive LOL
[07:36] <crane> I could do more on linux when i was 11
[07:36] <crane> 10 years later i am dumb now lol
[07:36] <bobthecow> crane: you got a konsole open?
[07:36] <crane> yes
[07:37] <BaudXP> argh my installation broke after reinstalling the nvidia drivers :(
[07:37] <bobthecow> crane: sudo apt-get install kdebase-bin
[07:37] <BaudXP> pc wont start anymore, I get "Failed to load the nvidia kernel module"
[07:37] <level1> BaudXP: a likely story
[07:37] <crane> ok done
[07:38] <BaudXP> well, by comparison, this is far worse than not having pretty beryk effects lol
[07:38] <BaudXP> what couldve went wrong? I installed from the repo like suggested
[07:38] <level1> BaudXP: you kinda have two choices, switch to a different driver long enough to fix nvidia in the gui, or try to fix nvidia in the command line
[07:38] <bobthecow> crane: sudo apt-get install kdebase-bin
[07:38] <level1> or give up on nvidia
[07:38] <crane> ok done
[07:38] <BaudXP> command line is good
[07:38] <crane> ya
[07:39] <bobthecow> crane: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[07:39] <bobthecow> for good measure.
[07:39] <BaudXP> Sorta spilt coke on my laptop kb, so I dont know how long it's gonna stay alive
[07:39] <crane> ok done
[07:39] <level1> BaudXP: hmm... usually, I just try uninstalling and reinstall nvidia in different ways until I get it working... my expertise isn't actually that greate
[07:39] <Kubuntero> bobthecow: What?
[07:39] <kdehl> I have a problem when trying to install scim-chinese, I have no idea what's wrong.Sorry for the strange language, but I think you get the point: http://pastebin.ca/695183
[07:39] <level1> BaudXP: you installed from the repos right?
[07:39] <Kubuntero> crane: press alt+space
[07:40] <crane> synaptic is already the newest version.
[07:40] <crane> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 36 not upgraded.
[07:40] <level1> BaudXP: you might try installing using nvidia's installer
[07:40] <kdehl> I can start acpid manually without any error messages.
[07:40] <level1> BaudXP: whats your card agoin?
[07:40] <BaudXP> level1: yes, from teh repos - used synaptic to remove then reinstall
[07:40] <BaudXP> 7600GS/256mb
[07:40] <bobthecow> Kubentero: what?
[07:41] <nemisis> !docks
[07:41] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about docks - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:41] <Kubuntero> ok
[07:41] <Kubuntero> I'm out
[07:41] <level1> BaudXP: yeah, one option is to download an install the driver installer from the nvidia website... this is not the "recomended" way, but for some people its the only way that works
[07:41] <crane> now what
[07:41] <BaudXP> doh
[07:42] <bobthecow> crane: what was it you were trying to install initially?
[07:42] <toogodoo> grrrrr...i just d/l kubuntu and want to install firefox but its a .gz file and i dont know how to get to that filetype in linux...whats the command to unpack a .gz file tkz
[07:42] <crane> eggdrop
[07:42] <Kubuntero> bobthecow: never mind. help him the way you know how
[07:42] <level1> BaudXP: actually, its late here and I have to go to bed in a few minutes, so maybe you can find someone else to help you or try again at a different time
[07:42] <Kubuntero> toogodoo: Ummm just install it in the package manager
[07:42] <BaudXP> :(
[07:42] <BaudXP> i've got no desktop machine to use lol
[07:42] <nemisis> toogodoo: try sudo 'aptitude firefox'
[07:42] <nemisis> toogodoo: try sudo 'aptitude install firefox'
[07:42] <level1> BaudXP: what are you using now?
[07:43] <elzbal> I just got around to setting up compiz-fusion on my Kubuntu. A lot of stuff works, but I can't get Cube or any of the other desktop pagers to come up. Any ideas? Anyone seen this?
[07:43] <BaudXP> a windows laptop with a sticky keyboard
[07:43] <Kubuntero> !install | toogodoo
[07:43] <Ubotu> toogodoo: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[07:43] <Kubuntero> Oh wait
[07:43] <BaudXP> no matter man, i'll keep poking until I need to reinstall lol
[07:43] <Kubuntero> toogodoo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware
[07:46] <crane> what is tcl??
[07:46] <crane> !g tcl
[07:46] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about g tcl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:47] <level1> BaudXP: as I said, why don't I get you a minimum use driver so that you can get back to the gui, and then you can find more support or at least put this off until later
[07:47] <level1> BaudXP: vesa will allow you to do everything except run beryl or play videos, and it might be a bit slower, but its usuable
[07:47] <DaSkreech> !info tcl
[07:47] <Ubotu> Package tcl does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[07:48] <DaSkreech> crane: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tcl
[07:48] <DaSkreech> night bigleon
[07:48] <crane> cool my adept manager is working now
[07:48] <crane> what is it?
[07:48] <bigleon> what now
[07:48] <bigleon> ??
[07:49] <bigleon> i'm still here
[07:49] <DaSkreech> crane: Language
[07:49] <DaSkreech> bigleon: I'm going to bed
[07:49] <bigleon> oh
[07:49] <DaSkreech> crane: ok adept is open ?
[07:49] <BaudXP> level1: ok how do I get vesa going again?
[07:49] <bigleon> I drank a gallon of MD today
[07:49] <DaSkreech> !vesa
[07:49] <Ubotu> vesa is the default video driver if X can't find a better one. Also see !x
[07:49] <BaudXP> at this point anything is beter than nothing
[07:49] <bigleon> i'm not sleeping anytime soon
[07:49] <level1> BaudXP: well, you do "sudo editor /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[07:49] <bobthecow> crane: still around?
[07:49] <bigleon> is this bad: klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_http'.
[07:50] <BaudXP> level1: replace glx with vesa?
[07:50] <BaudXP> (in xorg)
[07:50] <level1> BaudXP: then, you find a line that says something like:     Driver         "nvidia"
[07:50] <bobthecow> crane: in adept manager, Adept -> Manage Repositories
[07:50] <level1> BaudXP: under Section "Driver"
[07:50] <crane> k
[07:51] <BaudXP> got it!
[07:51] <bobthecow> Kubuntu Software tab
[07:51] <BaudXP> back to my desktop again heh
[07:51] <BaudXP> thanks
[07:51] <level1> BaudXP: cool, good luck
[07:51] <bobthecow> crane: check the first 4 boxes
[07:51] <BaudXP> thanks, will need :P
[07:52] <crane> ok i got to manage repositories
[07:52] <crane> you want me to click on kubuntu software tab?
[07:53] <bobthecow> crane: "kubuntu software" tab
[07:53] <crane> cause i dont see one
[07:53] <level1> BaudXP: if you remember what you did you can always get the desktop working again... its like a magic charm, lol
[07:53] <bobthecow> crane: you're in adept?
[07:53] <crane> yes
[07:53] <mefisto__> Jucato: thanks for the konqueror locate: tip. It's configured in /etc/updatedb.conf, by the way, then run updatedb to create the index
[07:55] <bobthecow> crane: what's the first tab called?
[07:55] <BaudXP> level1: haha got it!
[07:55] <BaudXP> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-16-generic was missing
[07:55] <pillowpants> how do i install my video drivers?
[07:55] <pillowpants> whats the wiki page?
[07:55] <pillowpants> i had it yesterday
[07:55] <crane> type: deb
[07:55] <crane> then url
[07:55] <crane> cdrom
[07:56] <crane> an a bunch of crap
[07:56] <crane> is that what your talking about?
[07:56] <BaudXP> DOH - well upgrading the nvidia drivers did not solve the compiz issue lol
[07:56] <bobthecow> not really. you running feisty?
[07:56] <crane> umm i dont know
[07:57] <bobthecow> alright. i know where you're at.
[07:57] <pillowpants> !nvidia
[07:57] <Ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:57] <bobthecow> the last col... called "sections" ?
[07:57] <crane> no components
[07:58] <pillowpants> !resolution
[07:58] <Ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:58] <bobthecow> what does it say in that col?
[07:58] <crane> type: url: distribution: components
[07:58] <crane> those are the top thingys
[07:58] <bobthecow> awesome.
[07:58] <BaudXP> ahh forget it, i'm getting rid of compiz and going back to beryl :(
[07:58] <bobthecow> click on the first one that says "deb" under type.
[07:59] <bobthecow> we don't care about "deb-src" if you've got any of those.
[07:59] <bobthecow> we're going to chane the components.
[07:59] <crane> pl
[07:59] <crane> ok
[07:59] <bobthecow> it prob'ly says "main restricted" ?
[07:59] <bobthecow> we want it to say "main restricted universe multiverse"
[07:59] <crane> correct
[08:00] <jokijo> wow this kubuntu this is way different than anything i ever seen
[08:00] <crane> ok how do we make it say that?
[08:00] <bobthecow> when you click on the enrty, is there a set of boxes at the bottm of the window?
[08:01] <crane> reset apply close
[08:01] <bobthecow> hmmm. you've got a different version of the repo editor than i do :S
[08:01] <bobthecow> there's going to be some way of editing the entry...
[08:02] <bobthecow> i couldn't tell you exactly what without seeing your screen.
[08:02] <crane> I can add Repository
[08:02] <crane> cant edit components
[08:02] <bobthecow> nah. we want to edit the existing one.
[08:02] <bigleon> umm
[08:02] <crane> but i can edit the deb
[08:02] <crane> part
[08:02] <bigleon> i think i brokke my comp again
[08:02] <crane> but it wont let me edit the others
[08:02] <bobthecow> hmmm.
[08:02] <bobthecow> lets do it in synaptic.
[08:03] <bobthecow> exit adept
[08:03] <bigleon> level1 are you still here
[08:03] <crane> k
[08:03] <bobthecow> run synaptic.
[08:03] <level1> bigleon: maybe
[08:03] <crane> any specific way to run that?
[08:03] <bigleon> okay whats that thing i need for my video drivers
[08:03] <bigleon> when i update
[08:03] <bobthecow> sudo synaptic
[08:03] <level1> bigleon: what do you mean?
[08:03] <bigleon> my vidoe card
[08:03] <bigleon> for feisty
[08:03] <level1> bigleon: you mean, what do you have to install?
[08:04] <level1> bigleon: what card do you have agoin?  is it the X1400?
[08:04] <crane> ok iam in
[08:04] <bigleon> yeah
[08:04] <bobthecow> Settings > Repositories
[08:04] <bobthecow> should be a similar looking window
[08:05] <crane> it brings up software preferences
[08:05] <level1> bigleon: well, you install xorg-driver-fglrx
[08:05] <crane> when i click that
[08:05] <bigleon> can i check if i have it?
[08:05] <bobthecow> shouldn't.
[08:06] <bobthecow> give it another go?
[08:06] <crane> brings up same window
[08:06] <bobthecow> same like software preferences, or same like adept?
[08:07] <level1> bigleon: if you already have fglrx install, it "won't go"... apt will just not install anything
[08:07] <crane> same software preferences
[08:07] <level1> so you'll be okay
[08:07] <bobthecow> grrr.
[08:07] <crane> but there is a tab for internet updates
[08:07] <bobthecow> lets do this the terminal way.
[08:07] <crane> an authenications
[08:07] <bobthecow> no. that's not going to do it.
[08:07] <crane> ok
[08:07] <bobthecow> pull up konsole.
[08:08] <crane> ok
[08:08] <bobthecow> sudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:08] <bobthecow> right.
[08:08] <crane> pl
[08:08] <bobthecow> whatever :)
[08:08] <crane> ok
[08:09] <bobthecow> scroll down til you find something like "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty main restricted"
[08:09] <bobthecow> go to the end of the line and add
[08:09] <bobthecow> universe multiverse
[08:11] <crane> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[08:11] <crane> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[08:11] <crane> which one?
[08:11] <bobthecow> the deb one
[08:11] <bobthecow> not deb-src
[08:12] <bobthecow> so it should say "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-updates main restricted universe multiverse"
[08:12] <bobthecow> now
[08:12] <sunilonln> hey all, i installed kde4 b2 on feisty using the instructions on the website -- all goes well, but the taskbar just shows "this object could not be created" twice. any hints to get past that?
[08:13] <bobthecow> crane: with me?
[08:14] <crane> yah
[08:14] <crane> I think i messed up
[08:14] <crane> grrrrrrrr
[08:14] <bobthecow> what's up?
[08:14] <crane> does it autosave?
[08:14] <crane> or do u have to save it?
[08:15] <bobthecow> no. it asks if you want to save.
[08:15] <bobthecow> and i lied up there ^^
[08:15] <bobthecow> it shouldn't say "feisty-updates" should just say "feisty"
[08:15] <crane> thats not good cause there is nothin on my screen that says feisty
[08:16] <bobthecow> oh. you're running dapper.
[08:16] <bobthecow> my bad.
[08:16] <bobthecow> ignore the feisty stuff.
[08:16] <bobthecow> :P
[08:16] <crane> am i suppose to erase the main restricted part?
[08:16] <crane> an replace with universe multiverse
[08:16] <bobthecow> no. you want it to say main restricted universe multiverse
[08:16] <bobthecow> all four.
[08:17] <crane> oh ok
[08:17] <crane> ok done'
[08:17] <crane> 'all four
[08:17] <bobthecow> now look for a line that says something about dapper-backports
[08:18] <bobthecow> might not be there, but if it is we need to add universe and multiverse to that one.
[08:18] <crane> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports'
[08:18] <crane> ?
[08:19] <bobthecow> right. do the two lines under that have #'s in front of them?
[08:19] <crane> yes
[08:19] <bobthecow> so "# deb http://archive..."
[08:20] <crane> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports'
[08:20] <crane> ## repository.
[08:20] <crane> ## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as
[08:20] <bobthecow> we're looking for the two that have deb
[08:20] <bobthecow> and deb-src
[08:20] <bobthecow> under all those with ##
[08:20] <crane> ok found them
[08:20] <bobthecow> do they have #'s?
[08:20] <crane> # deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[08:20] <crane> # deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[08:20] <crane> thats them
[08:21] <bobthecow> ok. no worries then.
[08:21] <bobthecow> just gotta save and exit.
[08:21] <crane> k
[08:21] <bobthecow> so CTRL+O to save
[08:21] <bobthecow> CTRL+X to exit
[08:22] <crane> ok
[08:22] <crane> done
[08:22] <bobthecow> sudo apt-get update
[08:23] <crane> ok
[08:23] <bobthecow> that'll update your package list
[08:23] <bobthecow> now you should be able to install eggdrop
[08:23] <bobthecow> sudo apt-get install eggdrop
[08:23] <crane> cool thank you
[08:24] <bobthecow> what we just did (the long way) was enable some extra repositories
[08:24] <bobthecow> !repos
[08:24] <Ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:24] <crane> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:24] <crane> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:24] <crane> it didnt work
[08:24] <sheldonc> is adept still maintained?
[08:24] <bobthecow> is adept or synaptic open?
[08:24] <crane> oh yah
[08:24] <crane> synaptic was
[08:24] <bobthecow> that'll do it :)
[08:25] <crane> wow
[08:25] <crane> i think its working
[08:25] <crane> k it did sometihng but i dont know how to use it??
[08:25] <crane> i know the eggdrop command stuff when uget it open online
[08:26] <crane> an stuff
[08:26] <bobthecow> i don't know either :)
[08:27] <crane> where would it have installed to?
[08:27] <bobthecow> prob'ly /usr/bin/eggdrop
[08:27] <ubunturos> crane: /usr/bin - likely
[08:29] <crane> I think I actually got further on my own earlier and I am still having the same problem here...
[08:29] <crane> when I try to configure it....
[08:30] <crane> Tcl cannot be found on this system.
[08:30] <crane> Eggdrop requires Tcl to compile. If you already have Tcl installed on
[08:30] <crane>   this system, and I just wasn't looking in the right place for it, re-run
[08:30] <crane>   ./configure using the --with-tcllib='/path/to/libtcl.so' and
[08:30] <crane>   --with-tclinc='/path/to/tcl.h' options.
[08:30] <bobthecow> shouldn't need to compile it anymore.
[08:30] <bobthecow> if the install was successful
[08:31] <crane> you have to run the configue file to setup the bot
[08:32] <crane> I will make sure
[08:32] <crane> I am erasing everything
[08:32] <crane> redoing
[08:33] <crane> that is weird
[08:34] <crane> cause it says its installed but i cant find it
[08:34] <bobthecow> sudo updatedb
[08:34] <bobthecow> then wait about a week
[08:34] <bobthecow> then "locate eggdrop"
[08:34] <bigleon1> oi guys how is everyone leon bugged his laptop again getting error "bcm43xx: Error: MIcrocode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not avalible or load failed
[08:35] <crane> whats that do?
[08:35] <bobthecow> it's a fast way to find files.
[08:35] <bobthecow> you don't actually have to wait a week in between
[08:35] <bobthecow> but the updatedb thing updates the list of files, bascally
[08:36] <baudthief> Any idea what causes "false starts" in kubuntu? ie: when you try and run an app, it looks like it's going to launch... but doesnt
[08:36] <crane> ph
[08:36] <crane> oh
[08:36] <crane> i think i found it
[08:36] <crane> its in root\eggdrop
[08:36] <crane> and u still have to configure it
[08:36] <crane> and it still gives that error
[08:36] <bobthecow> that's a strange spot to put it.
[08:36] <crane> tcl
[08:36] <Yz85Racer> Hey, how do you get mp3 support for Amarok?
[08:37] <Yz85Racer> It comes up with the message, then freezes :(
[08:37] <crane> why would it put it there automatically?
[08:38] <bobthecow> i dunno.
[08:38] <bigleon1> oi guys how is everyone leon bugged his laptop again getting error "bcm43xx: Error: MIcrocode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not avalible or load failed
[08:38] <bigleon1> my gui won't even start
[08:38] <Yz85Racer> Hey, how do you get mp3 support for Amarok?
[08:40] <bobthecow> Yz85Racer: something like libxine-extracodecs
[08:41] <Yz85Racer> mmkay
[08:41] <Yz85Racer> ill try it
[08:41] <crane> well anyways thank you sooo much for your help!!!
[08:41] <bobthecow> crane: you sure root\eggdrop is the one apt installed?
[08:41] <crane> I am going to bed I will figure the rest of this out later
[08:41] <crane> no i am not sure
[08:41] <bobthecow> :)
[08:42] <bobthecow> well good luck/
[08:42] <bobthecow> i installed eggdrop on mine, and it seems to work, FWIW
[08:42] <bobthecow> except mine's at /usr/bin/eggdrop
[08:42] <crane> where did it install to?
[08:43] <crane> how did u excute the file bob?
[08:43] <crane> what command
[08:43] <crane> execute
[08:43] <crane> lah
[08:43] <crane> blah
[08:43] <bobthecow> meh. i understood.
[08:44] <bobthecow> should work to type "/usr/bin/eggdrop" then your config file.
[08:44] <bobthecow> you got one of those yet?
[08:44] <crane> should i do that from the root su /??
[08:44] <bobthecow> should be able to do that as you.
[08:45] <bobthecow> what's it do when you run /usr/bin/eggdrop
[08:45] <bobthecow> ?
[08:46] <crane> it says config file not loaded
[08:47] <bobthecow> oh. yeah. you just need to make a config file.
[08:47] <crane> how?
[08:47] <bobthecow> there's prob'ly a sample at "/usr/share/doc/eggdrop-data/examples/eggdrop.conf.gz"
[08:47] <crane> k
[08:47] <bobthecow> i don't really know how to use eggdrop
[08:47] <crane> ok
[08:48] <bobthecow> the guys over in #egghelp would be more help
[08:48] <crane> well thank you sooo much anyways you have been great!!
[08:48] <bobthecow> np. sorry it took so long.
[08:49] <bobthecow> you're almost there though :)
[08:49] <crane> :)
[08:49] <bigleon1> Hey question, I'm trying to get my 7.04 and according to computer everything sucesfully installed except some driver for my wireless, yet my GUI won't load
[08:49] <crane> ya
[08:50] <bigleon1> !version
[08:50] <Ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[08:52] <bobthecow> crane: past my bedtime now. have fun :)
[09:07] <danny500> Hi. I need help really bad
[09:07] <flaccid> !ask
[09:07] <Ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:07] <danny500> ok lol
[09:07] <danny500> do you know what WPE is?
[09:07] <flaccid> nope
[09:08] <flaccid> in what context
[09:08] <danny500> Winsoc Packet Editor
[09:08] <flaccid> ok
[09:08] <danny500> is there something like that for Ubuntu?
[09:08] <flaccid> no linux is not windows, it does not have winsoc
[09:09] <flaccid> what are you trying to achieve? you need socks/proxy ?
[09:09] <danny500> lol I know that but is there a similar app
[09:09] <flaccid> no.
[09:09] <danny500> WPE Pro is a packet editor. PermEdit grants system access to any running process. Tsearch is a cheat tool designed to search for parameters in memory.
[09:10] <flaccid> oh thats a sniffer
[09:10] <danny500> It lets you view all running process's and edit them
[09:10] <flaccid> um yeah there lots of that in linux, but this is a kubuntu help channel..
[09:10] <danny500> is there anything like that for linux?
[09:10] <flaccid> danny500: this is the wrong channel to ask
[09:10] <danny500> kubuntu has the same things as Ubuntu lol
[09:10] <danny500> ok does Kubuntu have anything like that?
[09:10] <flaccid> no
[09:11] <danny500> does anything linux have an app like that?
[09:11] <danny500> thanks for the help
[09:12] <danny500> actually is there a way to edit a currently running Java program in linux?
[09:12] <flaccid> danny500: stop.
[09:12] <danny500> oh lol Sup jucato
[09:12] <danny500> flaccid, I'm just asking a question.
[09:12] <Jucato> hi danny500
[09:13] <Jucato> the purpose of the app you are looking for is a bit... um... let's just say  "questionable"
[09:13] <flaccid> you have asked the same question in different ways many times. im loosing patience
[09:13] <flaccid> we don't help people do security related bad practices here
[09:14] <Jucato> danny500: we have packet sniffers in the repositories. but not editors.
[09:15] <Jucato> but like what flaccid mentioned, the purpose of that WPE is really questionable, and I don't think it's appropriate in here
[09:15] <kirk__> hey
[09:15] <kirk__> i just installed kubuntu, ive never been on a linux machine before
[09:15] <kirk__> so i admit im a newbie to this
[09:15] <kirk__> got a rar file, how do i extra it
[09:16] <flaccid> !rar
[09:16] <Ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[09:16] <kirk__> !info unrar-free
[09:16] <Jucato> !unrar
[09:16] <Ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[09:16] <Ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[09:16] <kirk__> !unrar
[09:17] <Jucato> hm... I'd stick with the unrar package for better compatibility... but they are basically the same
[09:17] <Jucato> two packages to extract RAR's: unrar and unrar-free
[09:17] <kirk__> i tried to download it through the adept manager
[09:17] <kirk__> didnt seem to work
[09:17] <flaccid> why is that
[09:18] <Jucato> !doesntwork
[09:18] <Ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[09:18] <kirk__> i installed but
[09:18] <kirk__> but dont know where to or how to use it
[09:18] <flaccid> unrar filename
[09:18] <flaccid> iirc
[09:18] <Jucato> which did you install?
[09:19] <Jucato> unrar x filename.rar
[09:19] <kirk__> unrar-free from, the adept manager
[09:19] <Jucato> kirk__: try the plain "unrar" then
[09:19] <Jucato> it might be a newer RAR version so unrar-free can't handle it
[09:20] <flaccid> with unrar-free, command is unrar-free -x filename
[09:20] <kirk__> command?
[09:20] <kirk__> im brand new to this, what happened to right click extra to?
[09:21] <kirk__> i got it with one from adept
[09:22] <flaccid> i don't think there is a gui for it kirk__ . run the command from konsole
[09:22] <Jucato> flaccid: gui for what?
[09:22] <Jucato> let him install unrar first :)
[09:22] <kirk__> got that jucato
[09:22] <kirk__> extracted it through the program
[09:22] <flaccid> for er unrar
[09:22] <Jucato> then he can right-click it from Konqueror through Ark
[09:22] <kirk__> now theres an .rpm file
[09:22] <kirk__> thats a new one
[09:22] <flaccid> can extract by right click
[09:23] <Jucato> kirk__: er.. what are you trying to do/install by the way?
[09:23] <kirk__> limewire
[09:23] <Jucato> !limewire
[09:23] <Ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[09:24] <flaccid> just install frostwire
[09:24] <kirk__> !java
[09:24] <Ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[09:24] <kirk__> !frostwire
[09:24] <Ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[09:27] <kirk__> this is pretty neat
[09:27] <pillowpants_> does anyone here use frostwire?
[09:27] <kirk__> a hell of a change, ive been on windows my entire life
[09:27] <pillowpants_> i hate limeware
[09:27] <pillowpants_> its like unsecure spyware infestation central
[09:27] <kirk__> im download frostwire right now
[09:28] <pillowpants_> tell me how it goes
[09:28] <kirk__> ive used it before on windows, it seemed exactly like limewire
[09:28] <flaccid> yeah frostwire is open source not commercial and there is no spyware on linux
[09:29] <pillowpants_> yeah
[09:29] <pillowpants_> has anyone here successfully gotten flash to work for firefox on an amd64 system?
[09:29] <Jucato> !flash64
[09:29] <Ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[09:30] <kirk__> !kubuntu
[09:30] <Ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[09:30] <kirk__> !ark
[09:30] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ark - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:30] <jussi01> !info ark | kirk__
[09:31] <Ubotu> kirk__: ark: graphical archiving tool for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 292 kB, installed size 1016 kB
[09:31] <kirk__> !info ark
[09:32] <kirk__> do u people like kubuntu better than windows?
[09:32] <pillowpants_> most definately
[09:33] <kirk__> im pretty lost right now, never been on any linux machine
[09:33] <pillowpants_> kirk__: once you have everything set up, its excellent
[09:33] <kirk__> i got stoned and switched earlier
[09:33] <kirk__> out of no where
[09:33] <kirk__> lol
[09:33] <pillowpants_> you might more luck with other distros
[09:33] <pillowpants_> sabayon is cool too
[09:33] <kirk__> what about redhat
[09:34] <kirk__> or suse
[09:34] <kirk__> they seem to be really popular
[09:34] <pillowpants_> redhat costs
[09:34] <pillowpants_> suse is lame, in my opinion
[09:34] <Jucato> please take the distro rating in #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[09:40] <kirk__> how do u install programs on here
[09:41] <flaccid> !adept
[09:41] <Ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[09:41] <Jucato> from Add/Remove Programs or Adept Manager
[09:41] <Jucato> !software
[09:41] <Ubotu> A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[09:41] <Jucato> that too
[09:42] <waylandbill_> !apt
[09:42] <Ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[09:42] <Miscellaneous> !dpkg
[09:42] <Ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[09:43] <waylandbill_> ha. four different people with four different answers. All correct. :)
[09:44] <Jucato> 1 problem, 4 different ways of solving, all correct. Linux
[09:44] <flaccid> yeah but only 1 is in the GUI layer
[09:45] <hangthedj> !synaptic
[09:45] <Ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[09:46] <waylandbill_> fortunately, the gui isn't necessary.
[09:47] <kirk__> !install software
[09:47] <kirk__> !install
[09:47] <Ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[09:48] <kirk__> !software
[09:48] <Ubotu> A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[09:48] <hangthedj> kirk__, there is also kinstall kpackage gdebi
[09:48] <kirk__> whats the easiest
[09:48] <waylandbill_> adept is the place you'd probably want to start
[09:48] <flaccid> the easiest is what the user thinks is the easiest
[09:48] <flaccid> adept is the official one and probably the easiest
[09:49] <Jucato> kirk__: read through that Software Management Link and take note of the Kubuntu specific section. then you decide
[09:49] <kirk__> theres 2 tag.rz files and one debian-binary
[09:49] <kirk__> this is for frostwire
[09:49] <Jucato> of course Adept would be the most newbie/GUI friendly
[09:49] <Jucato> (actually Synaptic would be. but...)
[09:49] <kirk__> tar,gz*
[09:49] <flaccid> please read the links so you don't have to ask again
[09:49] <waylandbill_> doung forget that there's source installations when you get more experienced as well. :)
[09:50] <flaccid> suprisingly the links contain the answers to your questions
[09:50] <waylandbill_> !frostwire
[09:50] <Ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[09:50] <waylandbill_> that link tells the exact steps for frostwire from start to finish.
[09:51] <waylandbill_> or if you need to ask again, you can msg ubotu directly and get the answer privately.
[09:51] <flaccid> do a /query ubotu and ask him whatever you need
[09:53] <Jucato> in programming?
[09:53] <Jucato> svg graphics
[09:53] <Jucato> mostly to be used for the other apps like writer or impress
[09:54] <kirk__> is  there a typical folder that you install progs to, like c:\program files for windows...
[09:54] <jussi01> Jucato: and what can you do in it that you cant do in writer with a drawing toolbar?
[09:55] <jussi01> hehe
[09:55] <flaccid> yeah in programming
[09:55] <Jucato> !fhs | kirk__
[09:55] <Ubotu> kirk__: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[09:55] <jussi01> kirk__: what exactly are you trying to do?
[09:55] <flaccid> im a programmer..
[09:55] <Jucato> flaccid: nice. one of these days/weeks/months I'll have to ask you about it
[09:56] <flaccid> what lang/implementation
[09:56] <Jucato> but not today... :)
[09:56] <Jucato> C++
[09:56] <level1> hi, I'm using raid5 on my computer and I suspect that one of my disks might have failed... how can I be sure?
[09:56] <flaccid> ah yeah ok
[09:56] <Jucato> or at least the theory behind it all
[09:56] <Jucato> theory and practical use :)
[09:56] <level1> theres a program running called md2_raid5
[09:56] <flaccid> np
[09:56] <waylandbill_> recursion in programming is very handy once you understand when and how to implement it.
[09:57] <Jucato> waylandbill_: the 2nd part of your sentence is why I hate recursion :)
[09:57] <level1> there are certian problems that can be done with iteration, but its just much saner to do it in recursion
[09:58] <level1> anyways, how can I figure out the status of my raid setup?
[09:58] <waylandbill_> Jucato: want a real world test? recurse directories and print out their entries. That is a nice fundamental recursion.
[09:58] <kirk__> wow this is complicated
[09:58] <flaccid> Jucato: http://sukka.jct.ac.il/~danzig/cpp/recursion.html thats a good enough explanation
[09:59] <flaccid> thats traversal
[09:59] <flaccid> :)
[09:59] <waylandbill_> Jucato: I did just that in the little snippet of code I wrote for the kubuntu distro updater.
[09:59] <Jucato> kirk__: not really. the whole filesystem is basically divided into directories according to purpose instead of by program name
[09:59] <Jucato> kirk__: all executable files would be in in a bin/ directory (like /usr/bin/), config files would be in /etc, so on
[09:59] <Jucato> waylandbill_: bleh :P
[10:00] <Jucato> flaccid, waylandbill_: thanks. I'll look into this :)
[10:00] <flaccid> yeah thats a traversal example. recursion calls itself
[10:00] <flaccid> anyway
[10:00] <flaccid> im off to the pub
[10:00] <Jucato> because I can't seem to appreciate using recursion just to multiply by the power of n :)
[10:01] <flaccid> i'll show you a better example next time then
[10:01] <flaccid> i gtg. cya guys
[10:01] <Jucato> bye and tkirk__: this is where package management comes in and makes it easy for you. they make sure that all the files are put in the proper places
[10:01] <Jucato> bah! stupid insert
[10:01] <Jucato> kirk__: this is where package management comes in and makes it easy for you. they make sure that all the files are put in the proper places so that you don't have to go and dig for them.
[10:02] <waylandbill_> um. if you mean directory entries is traversing, actually my directory recursing code did call itself... once for each subdirectory it ran into.
[10:02] <Jucato> waylandbill_: Lure told me about that particular use of recursion. but didn't really explain how.
[10:02] <kirk__> im sure i'll catch on, thanks for all the help
[10:02] <kirk__> i've been on window my entire life and now switch to this
[10:03] <Jucato> it takes time to get used to something new. just keep an open mind and remember that something new is always hard the first time around
[10:03] <Jucato> I bet if you remembered the first time you used windows, you'd remember that it was hard to get used to it too
[10:03] <kirk__> i do remember it actually
[10:04] <waylandbill_> the recursion happens everytime you hit a subdirectory. You call the function again and eventually when there are no more subdirectories, you come back out a step. wash, rinse, repeat. :)
[10:05] <Jucato> hehe that I can imagine I guess :)
[10:06] <Jucato> storage class specifiers...
[10:06] <kirk__> hmm now its installed but wont open
[10:07] <waylandbill_> kirk__: frostwire? you need java installed too.
[10:08] <Jucato> sun java, that is
[10:09] <kirk__> theres a lot of sun javas that come up on the adept
[10:09] <waylandbill_> Jucato: flaccid is right about the entries themselves, you traverse those. It was easy in adept with the Qt class that fills a string list with them though. ;-)
[10:10] <Jucato> kirk__: sun-java6-bin
[10:10] <waylandbill_> sun-java6-bin
[10:10] <Jucato> waylandbill_: bah! don't get me started with Qt yet :P
[10:10] <kirk__> you people are awesome, thanks
[10:15] <lnx_> someone know how i can add Gnome's panel weather tool to my panel ?
[10:15] <Jucato> lnx_: why not use KDE's weather applet instead?
[10:16] <Jucato> because you can't use GNOME panel applets in the KDE panel, and vice versa
[10:16] <Jucato> !info kweather | lnx_
[10:16] <Ubotu> lnx_: kweather: weather display applet for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1221 kB, installed size 2296 kB
[10:17] <lnx_> Jucato , kde weather doesnt have my city or area
[10:18] <Jucato> you can add them if you know the airport code
[10:18] <lnx_> Jucato , may be xfce4 weather tool can be added to kde panel ?
[10:18] <Jucato> no
[10:19] <Jucato> lnx_: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=7360.0
[10:25] <hangthedj> on kubuntu what is the c library to change text color on console?
[10:34] <josef> hello
[10:35] <lnx_> Jucato , there are only codes near airport , and its far for me i can get a city code ?
[10:36] <Yz85Racer> hey
[10:36] <Yz85Racer> what is a X-Window system installed
[10:36] <Yz85Racer> its for a game i play
[10:36] <Jucato> lnx_: as far as I know, these wheather applets take their data from airports... but if your city has that code too, then maybe yes
[10:37] <Jucato> huh?
[10:37] <Yz85Racer> well
[10:37] <Yz85Racer> it said in the req. for my game
[10:37] <Jucato> !x
[10:37] <Ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:37] <Yz85Racer> that i need a X-Window system installed
[10:37] <Yz85Racer> so type sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[10:37] <Yz85Racer> in a k\console?
[10:37] <Jucato> it's the part of the operating system that lets you have graphics and windows
[10:38] <SlimeyPete> Yz85Racer: you already have it installed. It's what provides the graphics on your screen.
[10:38] <Jucato> it's already running
[10:38] <Yz85Racer> ohhhh ok...
[10:38] <SlimeyPete> Yz85Racer: you don't need to do anything
[10:38] <Yz85Racer> so i run the binary
[10:38] <Yz85Racer> and it says
[10:38] <Yz85Racer> "open with"
[10:38] <Yz85Racer> what do I open it with
[10:38] <Yz85Racer> ] ?
[10:38] <Jucato> what is it?
[10:38] <Yz85Racer> Extract the downloaded file and start the binary "Tibia" in the new folder "Tibia"
[10:38] <Jucato> what game is it?
[10:39] <Yz85Racer> Tibia
[10:40] <Jucato> in Konsole, go to the Tibia folder, make sure the Tibia file is there, then type: ./Tibia (or whatever name the executable file has)
[10:40] <Yz85Racer> ohk
[10:40] <Yz85Racer> how mdo i go to the tibia folder in c
[10:40] <Yz85Racer> konsole
[10:41] <Yz85Racer> im used to typing cd C:\
[10:41] <Yz85Racer> etc
[10:41] <Yz85Racer> on windows
[10:41] <Jucato> where did you extract it to?
[10:42] <Yz85Racer> desktop
[10:42] <Yz85Racer> in a folder called Tibia
[10:42] <Yz85Racer> :P
[10:42] <Yz85Racer> ahhh
[10:42] <Yz85Racer> //home/kyle/Desktop/Tibia/Tibia
[10:42] <Jucato> cd ~/Desktop/Tibia/
[10:42] <Jucato> ~ is a shorcut for /home/username
[10:43] <Yz85Racer> bash: /home/kyle/Desktop/Tibia/Tibia: is a directory
[10:43] <Yz85Racer> kyle@kyle-desktop:~$
[10:43] <Yz85Racer> ...?
[10:43] <Jucato> didn't I say "cd"?
[10:43] <Yz85Racer> ahh
[10:43] <Jucato> cd ~/Desktop/Tibia/Tibia (forgot the other Tibia)
[10:44] <Yz85Racer> ohk
[10:44] <Yz85Racer> now how do i run the executable?
[10:44] <Jucato> ./Tibia
[10:44] <Jucato> if that's the name of the program/filename
[10:44] <Yz85Racer> Yes
[10:44] <Yz85Racer> but it says
[10:45] <Yz85Racer> bash: ./Tibia: No such file or directory
[10:45] <Jucato> are you sure that the Tibia file is there? or is there another directory you need to go into?
[10:45] <Yz85Racer> i go to
[10:45] <Yz85Racer> //home/kyle/Desktop/Tibia/Tibia
[10:45] <Yz85Racer> then type
[10:45] <Yz85Racer> ./Tibia
[10:46] <Yz85Racer> and the executable is called Tibia
[10:46] <Jucato> hm...
[10:46] <Jucato> can you type "ls" (like dir in Windows) and check? the executable files are colored green
[10:47] <Yz85Racer> yes
[10:47] <Yz85Racer> Tibia is green
[10:47] <lnx_> there isnt other weather tools for kde weather displaying ?
[10:47] <Yz85Racer> Tibia
[10:47] <Yz85Racer> kyle@kyle-desktop:~/Desktop/Tibia/Tibia$
[10:48] <Jucato> weird...
[10:48] <Jucato> !pastebin
[10:48] <Ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:48] <Yz85Racer> ...?
[10:48] <Jucato> use pastebin and paste the output of "ls -l"
[10:48] <Yz85Racer> k
[10:49] <Yz85Racer> juc
[10:49] <Yz85Racer> its only
[10:49] <Yz85Racer> 2 lines
[10:49] <Jucato> ok
[10:49] <Yz85Racer> total 5068
[10:49] <Yz85Racer> -rwxr-xr-x 1 kyle kyle 5175944 2007-06-26 20:36 Tibia
[10:49] <Yz85Racer> kyle@kyle-desktop:~/Desktop/Tibia/Tibia$
[10:49] <Yz85Racer> oh
[10:49] <Yz85Racer> three
[10:49] <Yz85Racer> :(
[10:49] <Jucato> are you sure it won't run with ./Tibia ? (don't forget the ./ )
[10:50] <Yz85Racer> yes
[10:50] <Yz85Racer> kyle@kyle-desktop:~/Desktop/Tibia/Tibia$ ./Tibia
[10:50] <Yz85Racer> bash: ./Tibia: No such file or directory
[10:50] <Jucato> how about "sh ./Tibia" ?
[10:51] <Yz85Racer> kyle@kyle-desktop:~/Desktop/Tibia/Tibia$ "sh ./Tibia
[10:51] <Yz85Racer> >
[10:51] <giorgi> 'l,m;'
[10:51] <Jucato> Yz85Racer: er.. Ctrl+C and next time, don't include the quotes
[10:52] <Yz85Racer> > sh ./Tibia
[10:52] <Yz85Racer> >
[10:52] <Yz85Racer> see
[10:52] <Yz85Racer> o.0
[10:52] <Jucato> did you press Ctrl+C first?
[10:53] <Yz85Racer> kyle@kyle-desktop:~/Desktop/Tibia/Tibia$ sh ./Tibia
[10:53] <Yz85Racer> ./Tibia: 1: Syntax error: word unexpected (expecting ")")
[10:53] <Yz85Racer> i pressed
[10:53] <Yz85Racer> ctrl c
[10:53] <Yz85Racer> first
[10:53] <Jucato> really weird...
[10:54] <Jucato> can you give me a link to where you downloaded that so I could test?
[10:54] <Yz85Racer> http://download3.tibia.com/tibia800.tgz
[10:55] <Jucato> hm. taking a while to download...
[10:56] <Jucato> wait! are you sure this game runs on linux in the first place?
[10:56] <Yz85Racer> yes
[10:57] <Yz85Racer> Linux
[10:57] <Yz85Racer>   System Requirements:
[10:57] <Yz85Racer> Linux with libc version 6 or later
[10:57] <Yz85Racer> X-Window system installed
[10:57] <Yz85Racer> Hardware accelerated graphics driver
[10:57] <Yz85Racer> 32 MB free hard disk space
[10:57] <Yz85Racer> A connection to the internet
[10:57] <Yz85Racer> Download and Installation:
[10:57] <Yz85Racer> Download the game (approx. 15.5 MB):
[10:57] <Yz85Racer> Linux Tibia Client 8.0
[10:57] <Jucato> !paste | Yz85Racer
[10:57] <Ubotu> Yz85Racer: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:57] <Jucato> Yz85Racer: you downloaded the windows version
[10:58] <Jucato> http://download.tibia.com/tibia800.tgz <--- linux version
[10:59] <Yz85Racer> no i didnt
[10:59] <Yz85Racer> because its in a tgz and its not a .exe
[10:59] <Jucato> a tgz is like a winzip... it's just an archive
[10:59] <Jucato> look at the links again. download3.tibia.com is for the windows version
[11:00] <Yz85Racer> http://download3.tibia.com/tibia800.tgz
[11:00] <Yz85Racer> take a look for yourself
[11:00] <Yz85Racer> https://secure.tibia.com/account/?subtopic=downloadclient
[11:00] <Yz85Racer> i re extracted
[11:00] <Yz85Racer> and now iv got
[11:00] <Yz85Racer> Patch  Showerror  Tibia  Tibia.dat  Tibia.pic  Tibia.spr  Tibia.xpm
[11:00] <Yz85Racer> when i press ls
[11:01] <Yz85Racer> the first three
[11:01] <Yz85Racer> are in green
[11:01] <Jucato> hm..
[11:02] <Jucato> how about just typing Tibia? does that work?
[11:03] <Yz85Racer> kyle@kyle-desktop:~/Desktop/Tibia$ Tibia
[11:03] <Yz85Racer> bash: Tibia: command not found
[11:03] <Jucato> hm... 50%... wonder what's wrong
[11:03] <Bob1nz> hey
[11:06] <Yz85Racer> Jucato: http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/862/snapshot1zw3.png
[11:06] <Jucato> just waiting for the download to finish
[11:07] <arkadiomorales> elo
[11:07] <arkadiomorales> mam kubuntu
[11:07] <arkadiomorales> jak go odinstalowalc ?
[11:07] <Jucato> !pl | arkadiomorales
[11:07] <Ubotu> arkadiomorales: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[11:08] <lnx_> what is the kde command for this : $gnome-cups-manager ?
[11:09] <Jucato> System Settings -> Printers ?
[11:09] <Jucato> Yz85Racer: it works perfectly here...
[11:09] <Yz85Racer> could u tell me what you did?
[11:10] <Jucato> ./Tibia
[11:10] <Yz85Racer> ohk
[11:10] <Yz85Racer> i download it
[11:10] <Yz85Racer> right click .tgz
[11:11] <Yz85Racer> click extract to tibia800
[11:11] <Yz85Racer> go to konsole
[11:11] <Yz85Racer> then type
[11:11] <Yz85Racer> cd /home/kyle/Desktop/tibia800/Tibia
[11:11] <Yz85Racer> then ./Tibia
[11:11] <Yz85Racer> then it fkn says
[11:11] <Yz85Racer> bash: ./Tibia: No such file or directory
[11:11] <Yz85Racer> kyle@kyle-desktop:~/Desktop/tibia800/Tibi
[11:12] <lnx_> someone ?
[11:12] <Jucato> lnx_: System Settings -> Printers ?
[11:13] <Jucato> Yz85Racer: ok again in Konsole: cd ~/Desktop/Tibia
[11:13] <Yz85Racer> done
[11:13] <Jucato> that's where it is, based on what you're showing me in Konqueror
[11:13] <Jucato> ./Tibia
[11:13] <Yz85Racer> bash: ./Tibia: No such file or directory
[11:13] <Yz85Racer> kyle@kyle-desktop:~/Desktop/Tibia$
[11:14] <Bob1nz> level1 r u there
[11:14] <Jucato> huh?? really weird... last try
[11:14] <Jucato> Yz85Racer: in Konqueror, go to that directory you showed me in that screenshot
[11:14] <heretic> sudo updatedb;locate Tibia|less
[11:14] <Yz85Racer> k
[11:14] <Jucato> Yz85Racer: press F4, a Konsole should popup
[11:15] <TeePOG> hi guys
[11:15] <Jucato> then type ./Tibia again
[11:15] <TeePOG> how do i re-run the KDE settings wizard?
[11:15] <Yz85Racer> k
[11:15] <Yz85Racer> bash: ./Tibia: No such file or directory
[11:15] <Yz85Racer> kyle@kyle-desktop:~/Desktop/Tibia$
[11:15] <Jucato> TeePOG: install kpersonalizer if it isn't installed yet, then run "kpersonalizer"
[11:16] <Jucato> Yz85Racer: ok I'm getting annoyed.. one last try... just enter this command: ~/Desktop/Tibia/Tibia
[11:16] <TeePOG> thanks Jucato. it got installed as dependency
[11:16] <Jucato> if that still doesn't work, I don't know what will :(
[11:17] <heretic> Yz85Racer: type ls  -alh|grep xr
[11:17] <Jucato> heretic: see the imageshack link above
[11:17] <Yz85Racer> heretic:
[11:17] <Yz85Racer> drwxr-xr-x 2 kyle kyle 4.0K 2007-06-26 20:36 .
[11:17] <Yz85Racer> -rwxr-xr-x 1 kyle kyle  36K 2007-06-26 20:36 Patch
[11:17] <Yz85Racer> -rwxr-xr-x 1 kyle kyle 6.8K 2007-06-26 20:36 Showerror
[11:17] <Yz85Racer> -rwxr-xr-x 1 kyle kyle 5.0M 2007-06-26 20:36 Tibia
[11:17] <heretic> i came in late
[11:17] <Jucato> [17:06]  <Yz85Racer> Jucato: http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/862/snapshot1zw3.png
[11:19] <Jucato> Yz85Racer: so it still didn't work?
[11:19] <heretic> ahh
[11:19] <Yz85Racer> nop
[11:19] <Jucato> sorry
[11:19] <heretic> sh /home/kyle/Desktop/Tibia/Tibia
[11:19] <heretic> Yz85Racer: ^^ try that
[11:19] <Jucato> heretic: the weird part is, it works fine over here
[11:19] <Jucato> http://download3.tibia.com/tibia800.tgz
[11:20] <Yz85Racer> heretic:
[11:20] <Yz85Racer> /home/kyle/Desktop/Tibia/Tibia: 1: Syntax error: word unexpected (expecting ")")
[11:20] <Yz85Racer> kyle@kyle-desktop:~/Desktop/Tibia$
[11:20] <heretic> better then nto found
[11:20] <Jucato> not a shell script :)
[11:20] <Jucato> Yz85Racer:  you sure you used a period slash for ./ right? :)
[11:21] <Yz85Racer> yes
[11:22] <heretic> alright lets try this
[11:22] <heretic> ./home/kyle/Desktop/Tibia/Tibia
[11:23] <Yz85Racer> bash: ./home/kyle/Desktop/Tibia/Tibia: No such file or directory
[11:23] <Yz85Racer> kyle@kyle-desktop:~/Desktop/Tibia
[11:23] <Jucato> ready to give up?
[11:24] <Yz85Racer> nop
[11:24] <Jucato> that was for heretic...
[11:24] <Yz85Racer> oh
[11:24] <Yz85Racer> :P
[11:24] <Jucato> the only other possibility I can think of is that the download wasn't finished or was corrupted...
[11:24] <Bob1nz> wat about downloading it again?
[11:24] <Yz85Racer> its not that easy
[11:24] <Yz85Racer> iv got capped net
[11:24] <Yz85Racer> that took like
[11:24] <Bob1nz> gutted
[11:25] <Yz85Racer> 2 hours to download
[11:27] <Bob1nz> hey i havn trouble using commands in konsole ie. modprobe not working any ideas?
[11:28] <heretic> Bob1nz: use "sudo" before such commands
[11:29] <Bob1nz> yeah i have been n it tells me too install module-init-tools which i did and still no go
[11:29] <heretic> same message afterwards?
[11:30] <Jucato> what's the exact modprobe command you are using
[11:30] <Bob1nz> yup will put it in a paste thing n show u
[11:31] <VSpike> Recoll is great
[11:32] <Bob1nz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/161/
[11:33] <Bob1nz> heres the output
[11:33] <Bob1nz> from the modprobe thing
[11:33] <Jucato> you installed modutils?
[11:33] <Bob1nz> will jst check
[11:33] <Jucato> :/
[11:34] <Bob1nz> sorry im new
[11:34] <Jucato> :)
[11:34] <Jucato> well it's the first recommendation in that error message
[11:35] <Bob1nz> ya i tried it earlier today and it didnt work so i reinstalled the os
[11:35] <Jucato> O.o
[11:37] <Bob1nz> still no go it updated modutils heas the output
[11:37] <Bob1nz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/162/
[11:38] <Jucato> um... btw you need to use sudo with modprobe
[11:38] <Bob1nz> oh..... ok il try that
[11:39] <Bob1nz> it just goes to the next line is it sposed to
[11:40] <Jucato> if it loaded the module successfully, yes
[11:40] <Bob1nz> like no extra writing?
[11:40] <Jucato> as far as I know
[11:40] <Bob1nz> oh ok so how would i change that module ie. card=0 to card=3?
[11:42] <Bob1nz> ok thats kewl il do a bit of a google around thanks :)
[11:44] <pillowpants> ok, im talking from bitchx in a shell
[11:44] <pillowpants> i messed up my xorg
[11:44] <pillowpants> when i hit startx, it tells me no screens were found
[11:44] <pillowpants> what should i do?
[11:46] <pillowpants> anyone?
[11:46] <hangthedj> pillowpants, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg then startx
[11:46] <pillowpants> ah yes, thanks
[11:46] <jussi01> with sudo on the front of course
[11:46] <pillowpants> yeah
[11:47] <pillowpants> i think i installed my drivers wrong
[11:47] <pillowpants> ill try it and tell you how it goes, thanks
[11:54] <pillowpants> thanks, was just what i was looking for
[11:55] <pillowpants> ive been in this situation before and not known what to do
[11:55] <pillowpants> i always forget the command
[11:55] <pillowpants> its the drivers i tried to install, but ill worry about it tomorrow, g'night
[12:10] <Anarch> I'm trying to get my xorg.conf to give me a higher resolution, but starting X just gives me a flickering screen the color of my background.  How can I find what refresh rates to set for a generic monitor that just says "*Reflex" on it?
[12:11] <Leoj> w00t w00t!  I just got Plone installed :D
[12:16] <wers> I am playing Microsoft AVI videos on kaffeine.the audio is good but the video is very choppy. what can i do?
[12:21] <Alloosh> hi, how to connect to my kubuntu computer from other computers?
[12:25] <SlimeyPete> you want to share files, Alloosh? Or do you want to control your computer remotely?
[12:26] <Alloosh> SlimeyPete: I want to control my computer remotely
[12:26] <Anarch> I'm googling for HorizSync & VertRefresh rates for my monitor, but no clues yet.  Ideas appreciated.
[12:32] <SlimeyPete> !ssh | Alloosh
[12:32] <Ubotu> Alloosh: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[12:32] <SlimeyPete> !vnc | Alloosh
[12:32] <Ubotu> Alloosh: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[12:36] <wers> what applet can I put on my kicker for me to see my WLAN's signal?
[12:37] <JuKaterssi> wers: knemo, knetstats, knetload, knetdockapp
[12:40] <wers> thanks JuKaterssi. is what among the choices shows the signal strenght with its taskbar icon?
[12:40] <JuKaterssi> um.. all of them I think
[12:40] <JuKaterssi> not really sure
[12:43] <wers> i tried knemo and knetstats and I remember that their icons do not indicate signal strenght] 
[12:43] <wers> i'm going to try knetdockapp
[12:44] <icecool> hey i need some help
[12:44] <JuKaterssi> ask. if someone knows the answer, they will
[12:45] <icecool> i have some packages downloaded from the net and i want to configure apt so that it gets the packages from my harddrive rather than the internet
[12:45] <SlimeyPete> icecool: just use dpkg to install them
[12:45] <JuKaterssi> but you'll have to manually resolve dependencies
[12:46] <icecool> then i would have to install the dependencies my self
[12:46] <SlimeyPete> ah, true
[12:46] <JuKaterssi> are these packages from Kubuntu's repositories?
[12:46] <icecool> i want it configures so that it will search for the dependencies from the downloaded location
[12:46] <icecool> they are from ubuntu
[12:47] <icecool> the ubuntu repositories
[12:47] <JuKaterssi> in that case, you might just need to put them in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[12:47] <icecool> i tried that
[12:47] <JuKaterssi> and?
[12:47] <icecool> do i need to make some package index or something
[12:48] <icecool> well it still wants the internet connection to get the dependencies
[12:48] <JuKaterssi> hm... no I don't think so. it should just automatically notice that the package is already there and won't download it
[12:48] <JuKaterssi> perhaps it's still missing some dependencies that you haven't donwloaded
[12:49] <JuKaterssi> and sometimes it appears as if it's downloading, but you'll notice that it goes from 1% to 100% very quickly
[12:49] <JuKaterssi> oh he's gone :)
[12:49] <lazz0> does someone know how much dex i need for fast veterinary?
[12:50] <lazz0> wrong chan :)
[12:50] <JuKaterssi> lol
[12:50] <JuKaterssi> some rpg... veterinary? hahah
[12:50] <lazz0> yea
[12:59] <The-Compiler> Hi there
[01:01] <liquidus219> sup
[01:07] <wers> hmmm.. I just installed knemo. I ran it on the terminal by entering "knemo" but bash: knemo: command not found
[01:09] <emilsedgh> wers: its on systemSettings :)
[01:09] <emilsedgh> wers: its not an application
[01:10] <wers> ohh.. on Mepis, knemo was on the sys tray.. how do I put knemo on my systray?
[01:10] <DexterF> ok, my usb subsystem is falling apart here
[01:11] <DexterF> can someone please look at this:  http://pastebin.ca/695499
[01:11] <yamal> wers: once you use knemo its icon will appear there
[01:12] <DexterF> that's what dmesg gives me when I re-plug my usb dvb-t device (terratec cinergy2)
[01:12] <emilsedgh> wers: its a sys tray, but you should active it from systemSettings->Network Monitor
[01:12] <wers> yep. i activated it already but it still is not on my system tray
[01:13] <DexterF> my card reader behaves odd, too, devices via my usb hub work buggy, in thre other distros all fine
[01:19] <JohnFlux> I bought the cheapest no-brand wireless pci card and a wireless pcmcia card
[01:19] <JohnFlux> I plugged them, and ubuntu recognised them both and they both just worked straight away
[01:19] <JohnFlux> very impressive! :)
[01:20] <JohnFlux> it's now easier than windows heh
[01:21] <Fraction> dont know if this question belongs here to please correct me if it does not, but Im having trouble configuring my dual boot
[01:21] <jussi01> Fraction: ask away
[01:24] <Fraction> ok thanks. What I want is to use XP and Kubuntu, but how do I make the XP cd know about the Linux partition? I read somewhere that u need to install win first since is messes up the grub? but the installation just tells me that I dont have a HDD ...
[01:24] <Fraction> also I have tried to partition the entire hdd with ntfs using QParted on the feisty fawn cd
[01:25] <JohnFlux> Fraction: windows does not play nice with linux at all
[01:25] <JohnFlux> Fraction: it won't recognise a linux partition
[01:25] <struct> will the next release of kubuntu have compiz like ubuntu?
[01:26] <JohnFlux> Fraction: you have linux installed, right?
[01:26] <JohnFlux> struct: the next release is a long term release, so no big changes as such
[01:26] <Fraction> well I did.. right now Im running from the installation CD.. and try to partition the HDD so I think the data is kinda corrupt
[01:26] <JohnFlux> Fraction: and you want to now install windows
[01:26] <Fraction> yeah I want to dual boot
[01:26] <JohnFlux> the windows or linux installation cd?
[01:27] <Fraction> linux
[01:27] <JohnFlux> Fraction: and do you have windows installed already?
[01:27] <JohnFlux> struct: you can run compiz in kubuntu though
[01:27] <Fraction> no.. cause if I try to boot using the win cd it tells me I dont have a hdd
[01:27] <JohnFlux> Fraction: is it a sata disk?
[01:27] <Fraction> I even get this problem when I have partitioned the entire hdd as ntfs
[01:27] <Fraction> yeah
[01:28] <JohnFlux> Fraction: windows doesn't support sata
[01:28] <SlimeyPete> XP installer can't see SATA
[01:28] <JohnFlux> Fraction: at installation
[01:28] <SlimeyPete> actually, it does support it
[01:28] <JohnFlux> Fraction: windows doesn't support hardware very well
[01:28] <SlimeyPete> but the graphical installer doesn't
[01:28] <SlimeyPete> you can use the recovery console
[01:28] <SlimeyPete> and use fdisk to manually configure the partitions. Then it works.
[01:28] <Fraction> ahh thanks, will try that
[01:28] <JohnFlux> Fraction: hopefully one day windows will have as good as hardware support as linux :-D
[01:29] <JohnFlux> then it will be ready for the desktop :-D
[01:29] <Fraction> haha yeah
[01:29] <Fraction> dont want windows but wine doesnt seem to support my video card
[01:29] <JohnFlux> Fraction: an alternative, and I loathe to mention it, is to use vista instead
[01:29] <Fraction> heh no thanks
[01:29] <Fraction> It took me longer time to startup vista the first time, than to reformat the hdd install and burn kubuntu and start it
[01:30] <Fraction> it was the os that was preinstalled on the comp
[01:30] <JohnFlux> Fraction: you can probably google for installing xp on sata
[01:30] <JohnFlux> Fraction: get windows installed first, then put linux on
[01:30] <JohnFlux> Fraction: i think you can get windows install to not use all the disk
[01:31] <JohnFlux> Fraction: that will minimise your problems I think
[01:31] <Fraction> alright, thanks alot for your help!
[01:32] <wers> i just inserted a cd to my drive but kubuntu did not react. I cannot see the CD icon on the desktop nor on my media:/. why is it like that?
[01:33] <JohnFlux> wers: at the risk of insulting you, but you didn't insert a dvd into a cd drive right? :)
[01:33] <JohnFlux> wers: do any other cd's work?
[01:34] <JohnFlux> wers: I once had to reboot to get it to recognise a cd
[01:34] <wers> i just inserted an ordinary cd and it is on the right drive. it's okay. you're helping me.. i wasnt insulted.. other cds dont work too
[01:35] <wers> i too, have to reboot for cds to be recognized
[01:35] <wers> it happens to me often
[01:41] <Ross154> anyone tell me  how yo make the scanbuttond -r 1000000 command resident. so it autoruns at bootup pls ?
[01:43] <JohnFlux> Ross154: echo  "scanbuttond -r 1000000  &" > /etc/rc2.d/S99scanbuttond
[01:44] <JohnFlux> Ross154: I think that would work
[01:44] <JohnFlux> Ross154: quick and nasty :)
[01:44] <Ross154> lol
[01:44] <Ross154> ta
[01:44] <JohnFlux> Ross154: need to run that as root
[01:44] <Ross154> k
[01:48] <jussi01> how do i adjust page orientation in scribus?
[02:02] <BluesKaj> Howdy All :)
[02:03] <Jakoavain> Hiii :)
[02:03] <fabrizio> hi
[02:03] <BluesKaj> !hi | Jakoavain
[02:03] <ubotu> Jakoavain: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[02:04] <Jakoavain> God damn it :/ Been without sounds for 2days, as long as I've had Kubuntu :)
[02:05] <Jakoavain> Google for teh win
[02:06] <BluesKaj> Jakoavain, k-menu/system settings/sound system/enable sound system,then choose hardware tab/select the audio device/Advanced Linux Sound Architecture, click apply
[02:07] <Jakoavain> Been there done that :/ Mixer cannot be found
[02:07] <Jakoavain> The whole comp doesn't  reconize I have a soundcard
[02:08] <Jakoavain> I've been using the satanistic windows for 4years, so be gentle to me
[02:09] <BluesKaj> Jakoavain, we'd better check that first, in the terminal type: lspci | grep audio
[02:09] <Jakoavain> 00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: ALi Corporation M5455 PCI AC-Link Controller Audio Device (rev 20)
[02:09] <Jakoavain> Without music for 2days, I feel like shit 8D
[02:10] <BluesKaj> sudo asoundconf list
[02:11] <Jakoavain> Names of available sound cards:
[02:11] <Jakoavain> Nothing :/
[02:12] <Jakoavain> I'll go to get something to eat, I'll be right back
[02:13] <BluesKaj> well Jakoavain, you need to search for the linux driver for your soundcard and install it.
[02:15] <Jakoavain> Okey, I already have one
[02:15] <Jakoavain> And, I don't know, should I unzip it and then open with konsole, or what?
[02:18] <BluesKaj> what's the file extn .. zip ?
[02:20] <emilsedgh> JuKaterssi: is that a package, or source? there should be a README or INSTALL file
[02:20] <BluesKaj> Jakoavain, for linux it should be tar.gz or bz2 id it's a compressed file
[02:20] <JuKaterssi> huh? what? huh?
[02:20] <BluesKaj> id=if
[02:21] <Jakoavain> BluesKaj: sorry for the windowslike ".zip" =D Yeah, it's tar.gz
[02:21] <Jakoavain> JuKaterssi: I think he ment me
[02:21] <JuKaterssi> tsk tsk... :)
[02:22] <CheshireKot> connection tests
[02:22] <CheshireKot> approved
[02:22] <CheshireKot> hi, I'n with you!
[02:23] <BluesKaj> Jakoavain, then in the Konsole : tar -xvf nameoffile.tar.gz...usually if you right click on properties and select the name (selectall) copy andpaste it to the Konsole , that will work
[02:27] <BluesKaj> Jakoavain, that creates a Folde rand readme and other files in the folder..readmes and install text files usually give inatallation instructions
[02:27] <CheshireKot>            !
[02:27] <jussi01> !ru | CheshireKot
[02:27] <ubotu> CheshireKot:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[02:28] <BluesKaj> !ru
[02:28] <wers> Will kde4 require higher hardware specifications?
[02:28] <CheshireKot> !ru
[02:28] <BluesKaj> dunno wers
[02:28] <emilsedgh> wers: no
[02:28] <emilsedgh> wers: even, maybe less than KDE3, and faster :)
[02:28] <wers> wow
[02:29] <wers> yeah.. that may be because of the latest qt
[02:29] <BluesKaj> we hope
[02:29] <emilsedgh> wers: kdelibs, too :)\
[02:29] <Jakoavain> Blueskaj, okey thx. I'll try if it works :)
[02:30] <JuKaterssi> wers: higher hardware spec? no. it ain't vista :)
[02:30] <wers> hahaha
[02:31] <wers> i think, i will just have to disable some features for my hardware to work fine with it
[02:31] <wers> features like the new eye candies that come with kwin
[02:32] <CheshireKot> wers: I'm not shure there'll be any reason to disable any features
[02:32] <JuKaterssi> wers: those will deactive themselves if it detects that the hardware doesn't support it
[02:32] <JuKaterssi> besides, the compositing features are not enabled by default
[02:32] <JuKaterssi> and purely optional. like the way it is in KDE 3 right now
[02:33] <wers> ohh.. so there would be something like the kpersonalizer in kde 3
[02:33] <JuKaterssi> dunno if it's ported to KDE 4... but kpersonalizer is just a wizard. :)
[02:33] <jeffm> HI, all.  Stupid question here.  I would like to install Pidgin (not GAIM) on a new install of Feisty, but I don't see pidgin in the software list.  Looking online, like at getdeb shows .debs for pidgin and I can certainly install them manually.  But I'd really like them available through apt-get (would that get Pidgin automagically updated by adept updater?)
[02:33] <JuKaterssi> you should read the last page of kpersonalizer
[02:34] <bluesmandm> .
[02:34] <wers> jeffm, get a deb from getdeb.net
[02:34] <wers> i guess, pidgin is not in the repos
[02:34] <JuKaterssi> !pidgin
[02:34] <ubotu> pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info.
[02:34] <JuKaterssi> the release of pidgin didn't make it to Feisty's release
[02:34] <jeffm> So I guess my question is 2-part.  First, would adding a repository with pidgin get it automatically updated, and does getdeb have some sort of repository I can add?
[02:35] <wers> nope.. no repo from getdeb
[02:35] <wers> i guess, you will have to update manually on feisty
[02:35] <jeffm> OK.  So if I want Pidgin, I'm looking at a manual install (again, I have no problem with this -- I'm just addicted to automatic updates.)
[02:36] <knulfine> can someone give me the link for the geman channel?
[02:36] <BluesKaj> jeffm, in order to enable more repos check out source-o-matic
[02:36] <CheshireKot> #ubuntu-ger 
[02:36] <knulfine> thanks
[02:36] <CheshireKot> *maybe)))
[02:37] <knulfine> no
[02:37] <JuKaterssi> !de | knulfine
[02:37] <ubotu> knulfine: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:37] <CheshireKot> russian channel is ubuntu-ru
[02:37] <CheshireKot> o! ubuntu-de then
[02:37] <JuKaterssi> jeffm: if you can wait for a month, Gutsy will be coming out, with Pidgin
[02:37] <knulfine> ubotu thanks
[02:37] <BluesKaj> !source-o-matic | jeffm
[02:37] <ubotu> jeffm: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:37] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[02:38] <CheshireKot> bots are people too! I'm for equal rights for bots!)))
[02:38] <jeffm> K, all.  Thanks.  I look forward to Gutsy.  And maybe in the span of a month, I won't need a manual update anyway.
[02:40] <BluesKaj> hmm ,pidgin not in the repos ....that's surprising
[02:41] <enoj> BluesKaj: try gaim
[02:41] <sander_> hi!
[02:41] <sander_> I've got some problems with the KNetworkManager..
[02:42] <sander_> I set it to manual configuration once.. and now I can't get it back to the initial state
[02:42] <sander_> For instance I now never see that list of availible wireless routers in the dialog anymore...
[02:43] <Jakoavain> So the instructionsmanual says copy files to the "/usr/src/linux/drivers/sound" The only thing is that, theres only usr/src then it comes 4different linux-headers folders, and one ALSA folder? Really weird
[02:44] <sander_> To be short I want to revert back to the zeroconfig settings... any idea how I should do this?
[02:45] <BluesKaj> enoj, msn in kopete works for me ... seldom use the IMs anyway
[02:47] <combinio> on debian installing xserver-xgl is same like on (k)ubuntu ?? :] 
[02:47] <combinio> ( to have beryl )
[02:47] <enoj> BluesKaj: i said gaim because pidgin = gaim
[02:53] <sander_> Can someone at least tell me where I can remove the current settings of this KNetworkManager?
[02:53] <sander_> .kde doesn't seem to contain it... :(
[02:54] <Lynoure> sander_: stuff like passphrases are kept in kwallet
[02:54] <SlimeyPete> sander_: dpkg --reconfigure knetworkmanager      ?
[02:56] <Lynoure> yes, reconfigure works for the other parts.
[02:56] <sander_> Lynoure: nothing is stored in kwallet (no passphrases)
[02:56] <sander_> I'll reconfigure..
[02:56] <sander_> tnx!
[02:56] <Jakoavain> BluesKaj: Here?
[02:56] <Lynoure> sander_: yes it is, if you let it.
[02:56] <BluesKaj> yup
[02:57] <Lynoure> sander_: unless you have some weird new version that stores them elsewhere...
[02:57] <Jakoavain> Do you know what to do ? :)
[02:57] <sander_> Lynoure: I mean that I don't use passphrases so they're not stored there :)
[02:57] <Lynoure> sander_: oh, ok :)
[02:57] <sander_> passphrases are an illusion of security :)
[02:58] <Lynoure> sander_: I so disagree with you there. 64 character random passphrase on WPA makes a whole lot of difference over open wlan in terms of who gets in and how fasn
[02:58] <Lynoure> s/fasn/fast
[02:59] <sander_> wpa is a bit better but I've used some well known techniques to use some WEP 'secured' within minutes
[02:59] <Lynoure> sander_: WEP is obselete
[02:59] <sander_> true
[03:00] <BluesKaj> Jakoavain, at what stage are you in the install or is it finished?
[03:01] <sander_> sander@san-ubuntu-laptop:~$ dpkg --reconfigure knetworkmanager
[03:01] <sander_> dpkg: unknown option --reconfigure
[03:01] <sami> onko kelln radeon nyttist tll?
[03:01] <Jakoavain> [15:43]  <Jakoavain> So the instructionsmanual says copy files to the "/usr/src/linux/drivers/sound" The only thing is that, theres only usr/src then it comes 4different linux-headers folders, and one ALSA folder? Really weird
[03:01] <BluesKaj> !fi | sami
[03:01] <ubotu> sami: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[03:01] <sami> oho
[03:02] <sander_> ah it is: sudo dpkg-reconfigure knetworkmanager
[03:03] <BluesKaj> Jakoavain, check again, are you sure those instructions are for Kubuntu ?
[03:03] <Jakoavain> Yeah, that could be the reason.. that their not for kubuntu. My friend gave the url for this one
[03:04] <BluesKaj> aha
[03:04] <sergio> hello
[03:04] <BluesKaj> !hello | sergio
[03:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hello - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:05] <BluesKaj> hehe
[03:05] <BluesKaj> !hi | sergio
[03:05] <ubotu> sergio: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[03:05] <sergio> how are you?
[03:05] <BluesKaj> we are fine, do you have a question, sergio ?
[03:05] <hydrogen> !splash
[03:05] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[03:05] <hydrogen> !bootsplash
[03:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootsplash - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:05] <Jucato> hydrogen: what yah looking for?
[03:06] <sergio> why?
[03:06] <hydrogen> Jucato: the command to run after switching the image on bootsplash with update-alternatives
[03:06] <Jucato> usplash?
[03:06] <Jucato> oh wait
[03:06] <Jucato> !usplash
[03:06] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[03:06] <hydrogen> yea
[03:06] <hydrogen> thats it!
[03:07] <sander_> damn reconfiguration of the KNetworkManager keeps the same manual configuration....
[03:07] <Anarch> Gnome boots into 1280x1024 but KDE goes to 1024x768.  KDE applets can't change the resolution; it has to be done outside X, but not in xorg.conf AFAIK.  Where does KDE store it?  This is an Intel 965 chipset & I have the new intel driver installed under Feisty.
[03:08] <Jakoavain> ALi 5451 audio driver for linux kernel 2.4.X
[03:08] <Jakoavain> That's the one BluesKaj
[03:10] <BluesKaj> Jakoavain, did you untar the file ?
[03:11] <Jakoavain> I wrote thing in the konsole, as you said. Then the console show'd me a list of files It contained.
[03:11] <Jakoavain> But I had already untarred in my desktop
[03:11] <sergio> good bye
[03:11] <Jakoavain> Cya :)
[03:11] <tim> I heard there was a google earth type thing for KDE, anyone know if its available for fiesty?
[03:12] <ubunturos> tim: may be it is in KDE 4
[03:12] <ubunturos> called Marble
[03:12] <Jucato> it's not really a Google Earth for KDE :)
[03:13] <BluesKaj> ok cd to the folder on your desktop or move the folder to /home/yourname , cuz the konsole defaults to that directory ...that way you save having to type longpath names when trying to compile and install apps
[03:13] <emilsedgh> Jucato: I hope it will, sometime, what happened on KML support?
[03:13] <Jucato> !info marble
[03:13] <ubotu> marble: generic geographical map widget. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2-2 (feisty), package size 153 kB, installed size 456 kB
[03:13] <Jucato> dunno... haven't followed marble's development lately
[03:14] <BluesKaj> Jakoavain, a hint when DLing files, always DL to the /home/yourname directory
[03:18] <garfield_> !flash
[03:18] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[03:18] <Jakoavain> Okey, It's in the folder now :) Maybe I'll remember that one, in the future ;D
[03:20] <Jakoavain> BluesKaj:  So, if that is for ubuntu, isn't it possible to use it on ubuntu?
[03:20] <Jakoavain> kubuntu*
[03:20] <pikkuhukka> :o
[03:21] <BluesKaj> Jakoavain, yes you can use it , just install it like I said earlier
[03:23] <BluesKaj> Jakoavain, that untar command created a folder with readmes and install text files, which usually give installation instructions
[03:24] <Jakoavain> Blueskaj, yes it has the installation guide, but still the folder it says; doesn't exists
[03:24] <BluesKaj> ok cd to the folder on your desktop or move the folder to /home/yourname , cuz the konsole defaults to that directory ...that way you save having to type longpath names when trying to compile and install apps
[03:26] <BluesKaj> Jakoavain, cd foldername ...look at the folder properties to get the exact name first
[03:32] <Jakoavain> Yeah, but which one of these is the correct folder cuz all 4of them has the drivers folder in it.
[03:32] <BluesKaj> 4 folders?
[03:32] <Jakoavain> Linux-headers
[03:32] <BluesKaj> readme
[03:33] <Jakoavain> It says "linux"
[03:33] <Jakoavain> Not anything else
[03:33] <Jakoavain> "First of all, copy trident.c and trident.h to /usr/src/linux/drivers/sound"
[03:35] <BluesKaj> is there a "configure" or "make" file in the folder ?
[03:35] <BluesKaj> or "install" ?
[03:35] <tim> just a quick report back on the marble thing: version 0.2 (2 versions behind) is in fiesty. however the ap only plots town locations and is not a map program comparable to google earth
[03:36] <Jakoavain> No, only readme and the tridents
[03:36] <Jucato> tim: Marble wasn't created to be a google earth for KDE :)
[03:37] <Jucato> so naturally it won't be comparable to google earth
[03:37] <Jakoavain> Maybe I need the kernel development package installed :D
[03:38] <Jucato> tim: http://edu.kde.org/marble/
[03:39] <tim> jucato: I know that now
[03:40] <mrksbrd> i need help installing adobe tar file!!!!
[03:41] <BluesKaj> Jakoavain, open kate ..alt+F2, then your password , then,  kdesu kate /usr/src/linux/drivers/sound"
[03:41] <Hobbsee> !kde3.5.7
[03:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kde3.5.7 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:42] <BluesKaj> !tar | mrksbrd
[03:42] <mrksbrd> !adobe
[03:42] <ubotu> mrksbrd: Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[03:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adobe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:42] <genii> !info kde feisty
[03:42] <ubotu> kde: the K Desktop Environment official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:47 (feisty), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB
[03:42] <mrksbrd> !tar
[03:42] <genii> !info kdelibs feisty
[03:42] <ubotu> kdelibs: core libraries from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu14.1 (feisty), package size 40 kB, installed size 92 kB
[03:42] <genii> hmm
[03:45] <BluesKaj> Jakoavain, then, copy trident.c and trident.h to /usr/src/linux/drivers/sound"...dunno if it will work but I guess it's worth a try
[03:47] <BluesKaj> Jakoavain, drop the " at the end of the /usr/src/linux/drivers/sound file
[03:51] <mattperry1976> I'm needing some help getting VirtualBox setup with Kubuntu gutsy host and XP guest...cannot get USB to be recognized in guest...
[03:52] <mattperry1976> I have setup usbusers etc like all the forums seem to suggest, however still no luck...anyone have any sucess with this?
[03:52] <Jakoavain> Why should I open kate, if the alt+f2 opens run command? :p
[03:54] <mrksbrd> ok un tar'd the adobe file, will not let me run the install file!!!!!!!!!
[03:54] <BluesKaj> you open kate in the run command with your password so you have permission to edit the file in kate , like adding files
[03:55] <Ace2016> Hi all i just found this: http://www.kubuntu-art.org/
[03:55] <Ace2016> never knew that existed
[03:56] <BluesKaj> Jakoavain, if you don't open kate with permission , it won't save it with the added files
[03:56] <Ace2016> maybe it should be added to the chanel topic
[03:59] <BluesKaj> yeah Ace2016, but i havw aquestion about all the really dark themes in the wallpapers ...too much "gamerz murky mind garbage" appeal in those pics
[03:59] <BluesKaj> :)
[03:59] <Jakoavain> BluesKaj: One thing, how about the kernel modify package ? Sorry if I'm annoying you but this kind of compthings aren't made for me :D
[04:01] <BluesKaj> dunno Jakoavain, depends on your kernel , that's bit beyond my scope
[04:02] <BluesKaj> genii, .. you there ?
[04:02] <mattperry1976> does anyone know how to find out what your usb "path" is?
[04:03] <genii> back
[04:03] <genii> BluesKaj: Yeah now I am LOL
[04:04] <BluesKaj> mattperry1976, look in storage media , if your usb drive is there , click on it then copy the location from the addressbar ...i think that's what you need
[04:05] <BluesKaj> hey genii ...we nedd to know whether Jakoavain, needs to install a kernel modify package, for his audio drivers ?
[04:05] <mattperry1976> BluesKaj: it is not listed there..but it shows up when I do lsusb...any ideas?
[04:06] <BluesKaj> ok mattperry1976 , do a konqeror locate
[04:06] <genii> scrolling up to catch up on Jakoavain situation
[04:07] <genii> Jakoavain: to find what kernel you are using, do: uname -r           then you know which of the 4 you need
[04:08] <Jakoavain> Yeah, 2.6.20-16-generic
[04:08] <linuxmce> any ideas what to do when firefox want close
[04:09] <The_Machine> use xkill :P
[04:09] <genii> Jakoavain: So the headers or so that you want to modify/copy etc for the driver to compile are in that one if it exists there.
[04:10] <genii> Jakoavain: You already installed some things for the compiling part like package build-essential I hope :)
[04:11] <Doctor_Nick> im gonna headbutt your face
[04:11] <Doctor_Nick> *bam*
[04:13] <erich__> i'm having trouble getting my netgear wireless adapter to work in kubuntu
[04:13] <Jakoavain> I haven't done anything yet, :P This whole thing was put together by my linuxuserfriend :D
[04:13] <thomas__> how do I download stuff once I connect with putty ?
[04:14] <SlimeyPete> you don't. You need to use samba, pscp or winscp for that
[04:14] <erich__> download to the computer you're connected to or to the computer you're connected from?
[04:14] <SlimeyPete> (winscp is easiest)
[04:14] <thomas__> I'm connecting to a computer
[04:15] <erich__> right, do you want to download something to that computer. or do you want to download something from that computer?
[04:15] <thomas__> from
[04:15] <erich__> not sure how to do that. Slimey says you have to use a different program
[04:16] <thomas__> kk
[04:16] <thomas__> SlimeyPete: i'm sure you can download stuff in the terminal though right
[04:17] <SlimeyPete> thomas__: not using putty.
[04:17] <m00foo> thomas__: you can use good old z-modem
[04:17] <m00foo> thomas__: rz / sz .
[04:17] <SlimeyPete> thomas__: pscp is the putty file-transfer app, and it's free, as is winscp
[04:18] <m00foo> (afair putty supports zmodem .. havent used it for years though ;)
[04:18] <mattperry1976> BluesKaj: how do I do a konqeror locate?
[04:18] <m00foo> but scp is the saner way ;)
[04:19] <benluo> hi
[04:21] <mattperry1976> BluesKaj: I'm trying to use minicom etc and I don't know what path to use to send/recv to a specific usb serial port etc...
[04:21] <Doctor_Nick> :D
[04:24] <genii> hmm
[04:24] <SlimeyPete> run out of coffee?
[04:24] <genii> Almost :)
[04:25] <genii> SlimeyPete: Waiting for the Benadryl to kick in, have horrible allergy reaction this morning
[04:26] <maverick_> does anyone know of any linux bandwidth shaper, that would let me increase or decrease the rate lively without needing to restart the app like TRICKLE requires
[04:26] <maverick_> ?
[04:27] <maverick_> Just like NETLIMITER odes in windows
[04:27] <maverick_> does*
[04:34] <mattperry1976> I'm trying to use minicom and cannot figure out the "Serial Device Path" for a specific usb port...anyone know how to figure this out if the usb port does not show as 'media' etc...it does show up in lsusb list?
[04:35] <garfield> :/
[04:36] <garfield> i cant get true to view flash on youtube.i install flash nonfree but the videos still dont play
[04:36] <Arkygeek> hi  where did all the printer drivers go?  specifically my epson stylus photo r220 ?????
[04:38] <erich__> thomas__: did you figure it out?
[04:38] <erich__> thomas__: i figured out how to do it from the terminal if that's what you want
[04:39] <thomas__> erich__: yes, i haven't tried again yet because I ate bk
[04:39] <thomas__> erich__: what command is it?
[04:39] <thomas__> erich__: i thought it was GET
[04:40] <erich__> thomas__: i use scp
[04:40] <erich__> thomas__: only works from linux to linux though. otherwise you have to get winscp
[04:41] <erich__> thomas__: but for example: scp -r darkstar@192.168.0.5:/home/darkstar/Desktop/randomstuff /home/erich/Desktop
[04:41] <erich__> thomas__: that will copy that folder to my desktop
[04:42] <thomas__> erich__: from a linux machine to your windows machine
[04:43] <erich__> thomas__: that's from linux to linux
[04:43] <erich__> thomas__: from linux to windows, you're going to need to get winscp
[04:44] <thomas__> erich__: i got putty
[04:45] <garfield> thomas__: try type in konqueror "smb://ip.of.xpmachine/ " if your linux is allready conected to your xp machine
[04:45] <erich__> thomas__: i've never used winscp so i don't know how it works
[04:46] <erich__> garfield: he's trying to grab files off his linux machine and put them on his windows machine
[04:46] <Jakoavain> genii and Blueskaj, thx for helping me :) I'll need to try it later, if I can, but now I'll have to go. Cya dudes!
[04:46] <garfield> erich__: oh the other way aorund lol
[04:46] <genii> Jakoavain: See you later
[04:47] <erich__> garfield: yeah
[04:47] <erich__> garfield: i only know how to do from linux to linux
[04:48] <garfield> erich__:ok
[04:49] <genii> Finally, i think the allergy medicine is kicking in
[04:49] <radius> guess you'll be falling asleep soon (;
[04:49] <radius> or space out for the rest of the time it's in your system
[04:50] <genii> radius: Hopefully not...that's why I always have lots of coffee around :)
[04:50] <radius> oh 2 negative forces
[04:50] <genii> Jucato: If that happens I'll have to commit hari kari or else switch to that new caffeine gum LOL
[04:51] <radius> the only allergy med i can take is the one that's lactose free and that causes drowsiness
[04:51] <Jucato> hari kiri
[04:51] <genii> Jucato: Thx, didn't know was spelt that way
[04:51] <Jucato> at least you'll know before you do it :)
[04:51] <genii> Heh, yeah
[04:52] <Jucato> or better yet. you can ask me to do it for you
[04:52] <kkathman> do any of you know of a news aggregator that allows a "list" of topics to be submitted?
[04:52] <thomas__> garfield: whats smb
[04:53] <Jucato> !smb
[04:53] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[04:53] <garfield> thomas__: samba
[04:53] <kkathman> all the ones I've seen are just news feed organizers with, at best, single search topic capability
[04:53] <genii> Server Message Block, or samba for a cute name
[04:54] <garfield> thomas__: if u install smb make shore u are connected behind a firewall.either people can find your pc easly to try to control it :D
[04:54] <Jucato> smb... San Miguel Beer :)
[04:55] <genii> thomas__: You can set up a samba shared directory in kubuntu by: K ..System Settings...Sharing
[04:56] <thomas__> k
[04:59] <genii> thomas__: I normally make a user for samba called smbuser. Then whatever directory is shared to outside is owned by that user, and in the config file i map the username guest or bad usernames to it.
[05:00] <dyker> fuck you
[05:00] <mattperry1976> does anyone have experience with 'minicom'?
[05:01] <xp_killer> its silent around heree
[05:02] <xp_killer> mattperry1976: wat is minicom?
[05:02] <mattperry1976> xp_killer: it is a direct serial client...for using zmodem etc
[05:03] <xp_killer> mattperry1976: wats a zmodem? its not a normal modem?
[05:04] <erich__> how do i find out what drivers i need to use with ndiswrapper to get my netgear wireless adapter to work?
[05:04] <mattperry1976> xp_killer: it's like the old school file transfer service etc
[05:05] <erich__> anyone?
[05:05] <stdin> erich__: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[05:06] <synteth> hi!
[05:08] <emilsedgh> !hi | synteth
[05:08] <ubotu> synteth: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[05:09] <trzcionek> Hi, I need something to RSS on desktop...
[05:11] <emilsedgh> trzcionek: you need an rss reader? Akregator is nice, also there are some Karamba's
[05:11] <stdin> trzcionek: look on kde-look.org I'm sure there are superkaramba applets for it (you'll need to install superkaramba too I think)
[05:13] <mattperry1976> I am trying to find the serial path for use with zmodem in kubuntu...
[05:13] <erich__> how do i find the usbid for my wireless adapter?
[05:15] <stdin> erich__: lsusb
[05:16] <erich__> stdin: doesn't show it because i guess it doesn't recognize the device
[05:17] <stdin> it _should_ show the vendor-id:device-id even if it doesn't recognise it I think
[05:19] <BluesKaj> gents , I've compiled, installed and run pidgin , but i prefer kopete , so how does one uninstall a complied application?
[05:20] <stdin> BluesKaj: if you installed with "sudo make install" you normally do "sudo make uninstall"
[05:20] <genii> BluesKaj: make clean or make dist-clean
[05:20] <genii> (if uninstall is not in makefile)
[05:21] <BluesKaj> cool , thx , stdin, genii :)
[05:21] <BluesKaj> checking
[05:22] <genii> mattperry1976: does /dev/ttyusb0  exist?
[05:22] <genii> oops maybe wrong person
[05:22] <Doctor_Nick> MATTHEW PERRY I LOVE YOU
[05:23] <Doctor_Nick> SIGN MY ASS
[05:23] <genii> someone had a usb modem they wanted to know path for device, iirc
[05:23] <Jucato> !caps | Doctor_Nick
[05:23] <ubotu> Doctor_Nick: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[05:23] <Jucato> !language | Doctor_Nick
[05:23] <ubotu> Doctor_Nick: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:24] <brad_> hey
[05:24] <brad_> so I was messing with my monitor settings, and now my splash screen is a lower resolution
[05:24] <mattperry1976> genii: when I try to load that path in dolphin I get error mssg that it does not exist
[05:24] <Doctor_Nick> i am, of course, talking about my pet mule
[05:25] <brad_> like it doesnt show all of the Nvidia splash logo
[05:25] <brad_> any idea where to change that resolution back to a normal size?
[05:25] <brad_> (when I change it in my profile it does not effect the login screen)
[05:25] <genii> mattperry1976: OK
[05:25] <jhutchins> Doctor_Nick: mule != ass
[05:25] <Jucato> Doctor_Nick: regardless. you have been warned
[05:25] <sleon> hi people
[05:25] <jhutchins> Doctor_Nick: mule == ass/donkey x horse
[05:26] <sleon> i want to upgrade from ubuntu base to kubntu
[05:26] <sleon> i need sources.list
[05:26] <Doctor_Nick> oh no, not warned!
[05:26] <sleon> can you tell me where to get recent repositories for the kubuntu ?
[05:26] <jhutchins> Jucato: sorry, need coffee
[05:26] <stdin> sleon: no you don't, just install kubuntu-desktop package
[05:26] <sleon> repositories list
[05:26] <jhutchins> !easysources | sleon
[05:26] <ubotu> sleon: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:26] <xero_server> who do i ask about vmware problems and kubuntu?
[05:26] <BluesKaj> yup , stdin , "sudo make uninstall" ,did the trick :)
[05:26] <stdin> sleon: ubuntu and kubuntu use the same sources
[05:26] <sleon> stdin: so you use the same repos as ubuntu does ?
[05:26] <sleon> stdin: thenk you very much :)))
[05:26] <Jucato> sleon: yes
[05:26] <jhutchins> sleon: As stdin says, though, the same repos have kubuntu already.
[05:27] <sleon> thats very cool :)))
[05:27] <sleon> thank you guys
[05:27] <Jucato> Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Edubuntu, Mythbuntu, Ubuntustudio
[05:27] <stdin> BluesKaj: that's why I tend to package my compiles, easy to remove them :)
[05:27] <thomas__> so what do you guys think is the best ssh client for windows?
[05:27] <jhutchins> thomas__: putty
[05:27] <BluesKaj> right stdin, makes sense :)
[05:27] <Jucato> BluesKaj: or you can use --prefix=somewhere_you_have_user_access
[05:28] <jhutchins> thomas__: It's pretty much the only one, because it does the job.
[05:28] <Jucato> BluesKaj: and separate src, build, and install directories for cleaner compiles and installaiton
[05:28] <Jucato> installation*
[05:28] <jthomas> thomas__: putty for sure, or install Cygwin I guess
[05:28] <thomas__> jthomas: putty is just terminal though?
[05:28] <BluesKaj> Jucato, i just cd 'd to the folder did the uninstall
[05:29] <jhutchins> thomas__: what do you want?
[05:29] <jthomas> thomas__: well... it can do telnet and a few other things, but I don't think it can forward X... but SSH is generally terminal, so yes I guess so..
[05:29] <Jucato> BluesKaj: yeah, but  you had to use sudo, and probably it installed into system directories... but anyway...
[05:30] <mattperry1976> genii: that is the format of path that I'm looking for, I just can't seem to find that path for a usb port...I'm trying to setup a zmodem via minicom...
[05:30] <thomas__> jthomas: i tried using "ssh user@domain" method and it so much hassle
[05:30] <xero> !bot
[05:30] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:30] <BluesKaj> well Jucato , just happy to be rid of it ...din't see it with konq locate so i assumed it wasn't in the systen dirs
[05:30] <thomas__> jthomas: finding the directory names using scp
[05:30] <xero> !vmware
[05:30] <genii> mattperry1976: What is the make and model of your usb modem? May be different tty name
[05:30] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[05:31] <Jucato> BluesKaj: locate needs to be updated for it to locate new stuff :)
[05:31] <xero> !virtualizers
[05:31] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[05:31] <Jucato> BluesKaj: it's like desktop indexing/search like Beagle/Kerry, but less automatic
[05:31] <BluesKaj> ok
[05:31] <jthomas> thomas__: hassle how?  yes scp can be difficult to find directory names.  Try using SFTP, its easier, and Windows has FileZilla for a graphical SFTP
[05:31] <beans> be careful with vmware-player,  it phones home
[05:31] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get update konqueror ?
[05:31] <jthomas> beans: it does?!
[05:31] <jthomas> how do you know?
[05:32] <beans> wireshark
[05:32] <jthomas> of course
[05:32] <jthomas> whay does it do that?
[05:32] <jthomas> which port?
[05:32] <Jucato> BluesKaj: no. sudo updatedb to update locate's database/index
[05:32] <jhutchins> thomas__: You can store profiles if you need something more WIMPy.
[05:33] <thomas__> what about winscp
[05:33] <mattperry1976> genii: it shows up when I use lsusb...it shows up looking like "Bus 004 Device 004: ID 9710:7703 MosChip Semiconductor"
[05:33] <genii> OK 1 minute
[05:34] <jhutchins> thomas__: You're really asking for information on Windows clients for accessing real systems, ##windows might be more help.
[05:34] <thomas__> jthomas: I just want to be able to transfer some files remotely from thsi computer to another. Is Putty much better or really different that Winscp
[05:35] <genii> bah vendorID 9710 deviceID 7703 does not seem to exist :/   LOL
[05:36] <SlimeyPete> thomas__: that's like saying "is this Ferrari a better car than this potato?" :) Putty and Winscp do different things. Putty is not a file transfer program.
[05:38] <erich__> thomas__: puTTy and winscp do different things as far as i understand
[05:38] <jthomas> thomas__: I don't know anything about Winscp, try asking in #windows
[05:39] <erich__> thomas__: you can use puTTy to ssh to your linux machine and browse the filesystem/control that computer. you use Winscp just to snag files off of it
[05:39] <thomas__> erich__: ohhh
[05:40] <thomas__> erich__: do you know if windows comes with scp
[05:40] <jhutchins> putty includes scp/sftp functions.
[05:40] <erich__> thomas__: i'm pretty sure you need to download winscp
[05:40] <thomas__> erich__: linux does right, so I could putty into my linux machine and use integrated scp
[05:40] <jhutchins> thomas__: Why are you asking these questions in #kubuntu?
[05:40] <thomas__> jhutchins: ok sorry
[05:40] <SlimeyPete> thomas__: windows doesn't come with scp
[05:40] <SlimeyPete> .
[05:41] <erich__> thomas__: i don't know a whole lot about windows. i just use it to play video games these days
[05:41] <jhutchins> Windows does not play nice with other OSs.
[05:41] <thomas__> jhutchins: i don't know any other channels :D
[05:41] <jhutchins> thomas__: Ah.  As several of us said, ##windows
[05:41] <jhutchins> (A decent client will open the channel if you double-click that highlighted word.)
[05:46] <mattperry1976> genii: sorry got booted from the net...took a sec to reconnect...
[05:47] <jthomas> thomas__: type '/join ##windows"
[05:49] <genii> mattperry1976: np,didn't miss much :)
[05:50] <Baccilus> ;p
[05:50] <Baccilus> hello
[05:50] <Baccilus> i need some help?
[05:50] <Baccilus> Sysinfo for 'Underground': Linux 2.6.20-16-generic running KDE 3.5.7, CPU: Intel(R)Core2CPUT7200@2.00GHz at 1000 MHz (3994 bogomips), , RAM: 699/1010MB, 156 proc's, 31.33min up
[05:50] <jhutchins> xp_killer: well, that'll certainly teach us a lesson...
[05:51] <emilsedgh> Baccilus: go on, if someone knows about your problem, will help
[05:51] <Jucato> !ask | Baccilus
[05:51] <ubotu> Baccilus: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:51] <xp_killer> lol
[05:51] <Baccilus> something is running wrong with my Kubuntu.I have a dual-core 2.0 Ghz and is so slow..
[05:51] <Baccilus> ;p
[05:52] <Baccilus> i guess i might did something wrong
[05:52] <Baccilus> i came again here and asked
[05:52] <Jucato> O.o why the fork is my swap being used?
[05:52] <stdin> xp_killer: you do know that everyone in here are volunteers? and that you aren't entitled expect *any* level of help...
[05:53] <Baccilus> is there anyway i find out why is this?
[05:53] <xp_killer> stdin: ok
[05:53] <genii> mattperry1976: On the sticker or so on the modem itseld, what exactly does it say it's called?
[05:53] <jhutchins> Baccilus: It's a little tough for a new user, but take a look at top in a console, see what's using resources.
[05:54] <Baccilus> i have 156 proc's
[05:54] <Baccilus> but again
[05:54] <Baccilus> what can be wrong
[05:54] <Baccilus> the last time i installed Ubuntu.. it was so fast.
[05:54] <Baccilus> ;p
[05:54] <Baccilus> now it's slow
[05:54] <BluesKaj> Baccilus, pls don't use the enter for punctuation
[05:55] <Baccilus> hm
[05:55] <genii> Hmm no ping on mattperry1976
[05:55] <Baccilus> I have to say that im sure this is not normal even if im new user.
[05:56] <mattperry1976> genii: there is no actual modem...I'm trying to flash an fta viewsat box and it uses zmodem...in windows there was a simple loader that sent the files etc, but now that I'm trying my best to let go of xp, I can't find the path to that port to use in minicom...lol...and I don't want to have to go back to xp etc
[05:56] <Jucato> xp_killer: we have better things to do than that
[05:56] <Baccilus> ur talking about me now? :/
[05:57] <Jucato> but you should stil behave
[05:57] <BluesKaj> no
[05:58] <Baccilus> ok, can you give me some hints what shall i do and i will go through it?
[05:58] <xp_killer> Jucato: lol
[05:58] <genii> mattperry1976: Ah OK.that is much clearer then.
[05:59] <genii> mattperry1976: I need to go do some errands so will be away for a while. But can still pursue this later if you like
[05:59] <mattperry1976> genii: sorry...do you need the id line from lsusb ?...sure, I'll be on...thanks for your time and willingness to help
[06:00] <genii> ok
[06:01] <xp_killer> Jucato: alt+F2 for the run command.when i tye kdesu ... what do i have to type when i'm i gnome?
[06:01] <Jucato> gksudo (or gksu)
[06:02] <stdin> the !kdesu factoid also has that info
[06:02] <BluesKaj> Baccilus, it's very difficult to know what's causing your problem. Is it a new install, did you install some new apps recently ..which apps are slow etc..
[06:02] <xp_killer> Jucato: ok
[06:03] <Jucato> stdin: getting tired are we? :)
[06:03] <stdin> Jucato: nah, but it helps if users know where to get the info if you're not here :p
[06:03] <jhutchins> Baccilus: One thing to do is turn off ipv6
[06:04] <jhutchins> Baccilus: You don't seem to have told us what is slow about your system.
[06:04] <Jucato> hahah :)
[06:04] <xp_killer> lol
[06:04] <jm87> hi
[06:05] <BluesKaj> !hi | jm87
[06:05] <ubotu> jm87: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[06:05] <Baccilus> BluesKaj: yes it's a new install, i first installed Ubuntu and then installed KDE because i had a problem with installing Kubuntu Dvd.Well is this on your opinion good? RAM: 701/1010MB, 153 proc's > My comp is really slow jhutchins.When i logon it takes about 3 minutes to show me the background and 1-2 minutes to load a program
[06:05] <jhutchins> Ok, slow program loading is a specific.
[06:06] <Dr_willis> What CPU is this?
[06:06] <jm87> how i can configure wine to show me and run windows program like dev c++
[06:06] <jhutchins> Baccilus: first thing i would do is reboot with the command sudo shutdown -F -r now
[06:06] <Baccilus> Dr_willis: CPU: Intel(R)Core2CPUT7200@2.00GHz at 1000 MHz (3994 bogomips)
[06:06] <BluesKaj> jm87, kubuntu feisty
[06:06] <BluesKaj> ?
[06:06] <jm87> yes
[06:07] <Dr_willis> Normally if you install somthing with wine, it normally adds a icon to the menus. Of course with wine. its often BEST to run wine whatever.exe from the termional. to see any error messages, and dependng on the program some wine arguments may be needed.
[06:07] <Dr_willis> So a Intel Core 2, 1 gb ram.. Gee... thats a decent box for linux.
[06:07] <jhutchins> Baccilus: Please try the above and tell us if it helped at all.
[06:07] <Dr_willis> Sounds almost like a hard drive/ide/sata/hdma issue
[06:07] <Baccilus> ok
[06:08] <Baccilus> brb
[06:08] <jhutchins> Oh- didn't say what it'll do: reboot and check the disks.
[06:08] <Dr_willis> I wonder if 'dmesg' would be showing any errors or other issues.
[06:08] <jm87> do you know if exist some c++  compiler for linux ?
[06:08] <Jucato> C++ compiler? GCC (g++)
[06:08] <Dr_willis> !info gcc
[06:08] <ubotu> gcc: The GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.2-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 5 kB, installed size 64 kB
[06:09] <Jucato> IDE? KDevelop, Anjuta
[06:09] <Dr_willis> proberly some others out there also. :) but gcc would be the standard one.
[06:09] <BluesKaj> jm87, did you install wine from system settings/advanced/windows applications
[06:12] <Dr_willis> i cant handle C either. :)
[06:12] <Dr_willis> Ill stick with REXX ! :)
[06:12] <Jucato> add ++ and /me would most probably think
[06:12] <Jucato> bah stupid paste
[06:12] <Jucato> hm.. REXX just read about that yesterday
[06:12] <jm87> im going to use c++ for university and on university web site there is wrote that the program is used is dev c++4.9 like  c++ editor i want to know if exist dev c++ version for kubuntu
[06:12] <Dr_willis> I learned it ages ago on my amiga. Still handy for some stuff i do.
[06:13] <AnthraX> ok im back
[06:14] <jm87_> plz answer mw plz
[06:14] <Baccilus> that's how long it took me to reboot and login back again
[06:15] <Baccilus> yes Dr_willis that's what Im wondering..As i first installed Ubuntu before 4 months i was excited of the speed i had.My laptop was working so good..
[06:15] <xp_killer> stdin: i forgot how i install realplayer do i add this "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main" to a konsole?because it doesnt say were
[06:16] <xp_killer> sorry
[06:16] <stdin> jm87_: Jucato already did,  KDevelop and Anjuta are both IDEs that can be used to edit c++ code.
[06:16] <Jucato> jm87_: and for simple C++ programming, you can also use Kate
[06:16] <stdin> xp_killer: to your /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:16] <xp_killer> ok
[06:17] <Dr_willis> Baccilus,  try some live cds yet?
[06:18] <Baccilus> well the cd i installed is the same..
[06:18] <jm87_> and to compile it ho i can
[06:18] <Baccilus> Dr_willis:  maybe there is a problem when i installed KDE ?
[06:19] <Jucato> jm87_: when using Kate? you use the command line. g++ filename.cpp -o executable_filename
[06:19] <Baccilus> ah also i have another problem Dr_willis
[06:19] <stdin> jm87_: I know in kdevelop you can tell it to build it for you, or you can just use g++ from the command line
[06:19] <Dr_willis> Baccilus,  try some OTHER live cds i ment :)
[06:19] <jm87_> ah i undersatnd
[06:19] <Dr_willis> like dsl/puppy/knoppix
[06:19] <Baccilus> ehm
[06:19] <Dr_willis> is this a laptop Baccilus ?
[06:20] <Baccilus> yes
[06:20] <Dr_willis> ick.. could be all sorts of funkyness then. :)
[06:21] <Dr_willis> My old laptop was all confsed  when it came out.. the clocks even ran at 2x normal speeds. :)
[06:21] <Baccilus> ahh that good
[06:22] <jm87_> some one knows the date of sale of new kubuntu relase ?
[06:22] <Baccilus> the last time
[06:22] <Baccilus> i messed up sudo code
[06:22] <Baccilus> :/
[06:22] <arun> hey kids
[06:22] <genii> If you are buying it somewhere you are going to wrong place to get it
[06:22] <Jucato> !gutsy | jm87_
[06:22] <ubotu> jm87_: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[06:22] <Baccilus> and messed up all the lappy
[06:23] <Baccilus> sometime i guess i will have it run normally
[06:24] <jm87_> but i have kubuntu7.04 i can update to ubuntu7.10+
[06:26] <Jucato> yum!
[06:26] <Jucato> lumpia! :)
[06:26] <genii> Jucato: The guy at restaurant next door makes me spring rolls every day LOL
[06:27] <Jucato> for free? O.o
[06:28] <genii> Jucato: Free lunch from him on the day I help him with garbage takeout, Thurs. Otherwise not. Yummy tho
[06:28] <Jucato> haha! :)
[06:28] <Jucato> nice kuy
[06:28] <Jucato> er. guy
[06:28] <genii> :)
[06:29] <genii> mattperry1976: Still around ?
[06:29] <mattperry1976> genii: yep
[06:29] <guhhh> helloooooooooo
[06:29] <guhhh> i cant load an app... where can i look for logs related to it? syslog shows me nothing
[06:30] <genii> mattperry1976: OK, maybe if you can pastebin for me results of: ls -l /dev/bus/usb/*
[06:30] <LogicalDash> Sometimes the KDE help center shows up when I turn my touchpad on. That's kind of weird.-
[06:30] <LogicalDash> guhhh, you could try running it in a terminal window
[06:31] <genii> mattperry1976: You know how to use pastebin website, yes?
[06:31] <mattperry1976> genii: no
[06:31] <sergio> hello
[06:31] <genii> !pastebin | mattperry1976
[06:31] <ubotu> mattperry1976: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:32] <genii> mattperry1976: Copy and paste the results of that command into the website. then report back here the URL so can go view it
[06:34] <mattperry1976> genii: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37328/plain/
[06:34] <xp_killer> liu
[06:34] <genii> mattperry1976: OK, looking now
[06:35] <liu> yes, xp_killier
[06:35] <genii> mattperry1976: That is not the output of: ls -l /dev/bus/usb/*       that is the output of the lsusb command.
[06:35] <stdin> guhhh: depends on the app, and _if_ it actually keeps logs
[06:36] <guhhh> stdout thanks
[06:36] <guhhh> lol
[06:36] <guhhh> ;P
[06:36] <genii> mattperry1976: We have got what we can from the lsusb command :) Please post results of the:      ls -l /dev/bus/usb/*         command
[06:36] <guhhh> standart in, standart out
[06:37] <guhhh> pleaaase.
[06:38] <guhhh> ./googleearth-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libXcursor.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:38] <guhhh> :-(
[06:38] <stdin> guhhh: well, looks like you need to install the package with that file in
[06:38] <stdin> !away > Makthus|Away
[06:39] <Jucato> guhhh: install libxcursor-dev
[06:39] <Makthus|Away> ok pardon :)
[06:39] <Makthus|Away> le ferait plus
[06:39] <guhhh> apt-file search libXcursor.so.1
[06:39] <guhhh> apt-file search libXcursor.so.1 ?
[06:39] <Jucato> er
[06:39] <Jucato> libxcursor1
[06:39] <Jucato> sorry. install libxcursor1
[06:39] <stdin> guhhh: well, you can '/msg ubotu find libXcursor.so.1' or look on http://packages.ubuntu.com/ too
[06:40] <mattperry1976> genii: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37329/plain/
[06:40] <xp_killer> stdin: lol bot problems?lol
[06:41] <stdin> xp_killer: no, why ?
[06:41] <thomas__> how do I stop my ssh server?
[06:41] <genii> mattperry1976: Thx, reading
[06:41] <guhhh> /etc/init.d/sshd stop ?
[06:41] <xp_killer> !away
[06:41] <ubotu> You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[06:41] <thomas__> guhhh: wow how do u know exactly
[06:42] <xp_killer> oh
[06:42] <guhhh> thomas__: u do this for every service/daemon
[06:42] <Jucato> just ssh (not sshd) I think
[06:42] <stdin> ^ yep
[06:42] <guhhh> i dont remember exactly :P
[06:43] <Jucato> thomas__: most services/daemons can be found in /etc/init.d/
[06:43] <rambo3> do you have any gutsy kde 4 backports ?
[06:43] <rambo3> !info kde4 gutsy
[06:43] <Jucato> rambo3: please read the topic
[06:43] <ubotu> Package kde4 does not exist in gutsy
[06:43] <stdin> rambo3: it's in universe, there are no backports in gutsy
[06:43] <genii> mattperry1976: If you feel like experimenting, you can try /dev/bus/usb/004/002      as the modem device
[06:44] <rambo3> stdin: thanks
[06:44] <thomas__> Jucato: i see......i just used winscp on my windows computer to log in and transfer files using sftp...isn't my server an ftp server?
[06:44] <rambo3> Jucato: not the issue
[06:44] <Jucato> rambo3: what's not the issue?
[06:45] <liu> what happens wiht limewire?,may you give us some information?
[06:45] <Jucato> thomas__: don't really know. sorry
[06:45] <Jucato> !limewire | liu
[06:45] <liu> yes jucato
[06:45] <ubotu> liu: limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[06:45] <stdin> thomas__: sftp is not ftp, it used ssh
[06:45] <rambo3> Jucato: just read my question and your answer
[06:45] <thomas__> i mean when you install an ssh server isn't that just ftp over ssh protocol
[06:45] <ackbahr> Hi there! I've got this strange problem; using adept yesterday, I noticed Feisty Fawn was available (cheers!), and I started but then cancelled the upgrade; now, it still tells me there a new distr, but it won't install!
[06:45] <Jucato> rambo3: did you see the last link in the topic?
[06:47] <beojan> Lime wire should not be used
[06:47] <beojan> exit
[06:47] <beojan> ed
[06:47] <beojan> kk
[06:47] <beojan> kk
[06:47] <beojan> kk
[06:48] <Jucato> ugh! you do it stdin...
[06:48] <mattperry1976> genii: sorry didn't work...
[06:48] <neptunafish> Is there a way to recover a printed document? I didn't save it, and I lost the hard copy...
[06:48] <stdin> heh k
[06:48] <liu> i can not install limewire
[06:49] <neptunafish> !frostwire | liu
[06:49] <ubotu> liu: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[06:49] <Jucato> stdin: I just quieted him.. but by nick instead of domain...
[06:49] <xp_killer> stdin: wat should i do if theres no sound and kaffeine is not launchin?
[06:49] <liu> ok
[06:51] <stdin> heh
[06:51] <Jucato> sorry stdin...
[06:51] <stdin> it's ok Jucato, as long as we were both doing the same thing
[06:53] <stdout> ;X
[06:53] <xp_killer> stdin: wat should i do if theres no sound and kaffeine is not workin?
[06:53] <GuHHH> i like caffeine
[06:53] <GuHHH> gimme some
[06:53] <stdin> !sound > xp_killer
[06:54] <liu> thank ubotu
[06:55] <Jucato> !thanks | liu
[06:55] <ubotu> liu: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[06:55] <liu> frostwire install
[06:55] <DaSkreech> !frostwire | liu
[06:55] <ubotu> liu: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[06:55] <liu> already
[06:56] <coreymon77> DaSkreech: isnt frostwire on apt?
[06:56] <BluesKaj> KMLDonkey is much safer than frostwire , but harder to setup
  my system is alright now hu hu
[06:56] <stdin> coreymon77: nope
[06:56] <GuHHH> !coffee
[06:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about coffee - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:57] <genii> back
[06:57] <BluesKaj> ksivaji, got it working ok eh ..good :)
 my system is alright now hu hu
[06:57] <genii> ksivaji: Good :)
[06:57] <DaSkreech> coreymon77: Doubt it
[06:57] <coreymon77> oh
[06:58] <coreymon77> i thought it was
[06:58] <coreymon77> anyways, it is in a deb
[06:58] <SlimeyPete> I already have Pepsi, and... erm, I'm not sure what this other drink is because the label's in Japanese
[06:58] <coreymon77> so thats easy
[06:58] <genii> stdin: How'd ya guess
[06:58] <coreymon77> liu: download the ubuntu deb file from the frostwire website
[06:58] <stdin> makes sense :)
[06:58] <ksivaji> why i cant login to freenod server from my college system ,("server refused to connect" ) ?
[06:59] <DaSkreech> ksivaji: They hate you?
[06:59] <genii> darn. boss keeps messaging me from upstairs LOL. away a while
[06:59] <ksivaji> DaSkreech why ?
[06:59] <coreymon77> ksivaji: does your school block a lot of stuff?
[07:00] <ksivaji> coreymon77 college  is not equal to school
[07:00] <ksivaji> :p
[07:00] <stdin> ooh, I see ban evasion ^
[07:01] <mattperry1976> genii: got any other ideas?
[07:01] <coreymon77> ksivaji: you know what i mean
[07:01] <ksivaji> no i cant get you
[07:01] <marco_> hi everybopdy
[07:02] <ksivaji> !hi
[07:02] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[07:02] <coreymon77> ksivaji: a college is still a school
[07:02] <marco_> I installed phpmyadmin with adept
[07:02] <wckdkl0wn> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[07:02] <marco_> how can I use it?
[07:02] <coreymon77> ksivaji: anyways
[07:02] <ksivaji> coreymon77 ya sometimes
[07:02] <coreymon77> ksivaji: does you COLLEGE block alot of stuff?
[07:02] <coreymon77> because that would explain it
[07:02] <ksivaji> ya they block including orkut
[07:02] <wckdkl0wn> how do i make C compiler make executables
[07:02] <wckdkl0wn> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[07:03] <stdin> !compile | wckdkl0wn
[07:03] <ubotu> wckdkl0wn: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:04] <ironfroggy> im configure a windows file share from the control panel, but after entering all the information in, hitting OK seems to do nothing at all. the dialog is still open and everything.
[07:05] <marco_> hi people
[07:05] <xp_killer> !nfs
[07:05] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[07:05] <marco_> I have a big problem now
[07:05] <marco_> so I hope somebody can help me
[07:05] <marco_> I'm moving to china tomorrow and there there is alot of censorship on websites, including wikipedia
[07:06] <marco_> how can I surf these websites?
[07:06] <marco_> is tor somehow useful?
[07:06] <DaSkreech> very carefully :)
[07:06] <ironfroggy> xp_killer: was that for me?
[07:06] <marco_> no, I mean
[07:06] <SlimeyPete> I believe the standard method is to use Tor, but this isn't really a discussion for #kubuntu ;)
[07:06] <DaSkreech> you can probably proxy out of it
[07:06] <marco_> how?
[07:06] <stdin> marco_: I'd suggest you google about, I'm sure there are a few ways to do it
[07:06] <marco_> I tried
[07:06] <marco_> no way
[07:07] <marco_> I googled it but no way
[07:07] <marco_> why is shouldn't that be legal uh?
[07:07] <marco_> I am an european citizen and I cannot even surf the U.N website, o
[07:07] <marco_> or myspace, or wikipedia
[07:07] <stdin> because it's illegal in china to bypass the chinese firewall...
[07:08] <marco_> oh shit
[07:08] <stdin> !language
[07:08] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:08] <marco_> I don't think is not legal if u are a foreigner uh
[07:08] <marco_> oh, true
[07:08] <marco_> sorry
[07:08] <marco_> excuse me everybody
[07:08] <marco_> I'm just abit desperate
[07:08] <marco_> sorry again
[07:08] <stdin> yeah, rules of the land you're in take presidents over your home laws
[07:08] <GuHHH> !pointing
[07:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pointing - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:08] <lazz0> china ftw :)
[07:08] <lazz0> isnt answers.com clone of wikipedia?
[07:09] <xp_killer> ironfroggy: lol no me
[07:09] <marco_> what ftw means?
[07:09] <GuHHH> lazz0: no
[07:09] <marco_> really?
[07:09] <ironfroggy> xp_killer: ok i was gonna say i am not using nfs
[07:09] <marco_> is that any site similar to wikipedia?
[07:09] <marco_> or can I surf wikipedia locally?
[07:09] <lazz0> check it out
[07:09] <marco_> download it here and surf it on my pc?
[07:09] <ironfroggy> i really dont want to try and craft the samba mounting in fstab by hand again
[07:09] <ironfroggy> i lsost my fstab backup :-(
[07:09] <DaSkreech> marco_: try ##linux
[07:10] <marco_> uh?
[07:10] <DaSkreech> marco_: actually yes you can download wikipedia
[07:10] <ksivaji> is there any command to find  dependency of a deb package
[07:10] <marco_> DaSkreech: how?
[07:10] <stdin> ksivaji: apt-cache depends <package>
[07:11] <DaSkreech> http://digg.com/tech_news/Download_WikiPedia
[07:11] <ksivaji> ok
[07:11] <DaSkreech> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_download
[07:11] <marco_> just a question
[07:12] <marco_> XML format can be seen thru a normal boser?
[07:12] <marco_> like mozilla or konqueror
[07:12] <xp_killer> ironfroggy: lol
[07:12] <SlimeyPete> marco_: yes but it probably won't make a lot of sense to you
[07:12] <DaSkreech> marco_: most modern browsers yes
[07:12] <DaSkreech>  I think that IE is better at it than most
[07:12] <marco_> so what do u suggest me to use to surf it?
[07:13] <DaSkreech> marco_: ask in ##linux
[07:13] <marco_> ....
[07:13] <DaSkreech> marco_: Surf what?
[07:14] <marco_> surf wikipedia offline?
[07:14] <lazz0> marco_, did you see answers.com?
[07:14] <marco_> btw I am in this page http://download.wikimedia.org/
[07:14] <arash> Hi,  I have two computers connected through D-Link and both has internet, how can I simply copy a file from one computer to another?
[07:14] <marco_> where should I download
[07:14] <marco_> @lazz: I am checking it
[07:14] <marco_> thank you so much dude
[07:14] <DaSkreech> enwiki I think
[07:14] <DaSkreech> there was a KDE app to do it
[07:15] <DaSkreech> Knowledge I think it was called
[07:15] <SlimeyPete> arash: scp
[07:15] <SlimeyPete> !scp
[07:15] <ubotu> SCP is a secure way of copying files across networks using !SSH. Usage: scp filename user@host:filename - WinSCP is a client for Windows, available at http://winscp.net/
[07:16] <marco_> answers,com is cool
[07:16] <marco_> thank u a lot
[07:16] <lazz0> have fun
[07:18] <marco_> knowledge?
[07:18] <marco_> Iam searching for it
[07:19] <aantipop>  is it possible to turn of the explosion-like animations when klicking stuff on the desktop or in the kicker ?
[07:19] <aantipop> *turn off
[07:20] <arash> Slimeypete , If I want to send a file to this comp, and the terminal on this comp (let call comp X) has name arash@HEMPC2007 , did I do correct if I on other computer wrote 'scp fileoncompY arash@HEMPC2007 filetocreateoncompX' ?
[07:21] <SlimeyPete> arash: you will probably need to use the IP address instead of "HEMPC2007"
[07:21] <SlimeyPete> but otherwise, yes
[07:21] <arash> SlimeyPete , ok, isn't that exploitable+
[07:21] <SlimeyPete> arash: nah, not really
[07:22] <SlimeyPete> IP addresses are easy to find anyway, and scp is quite secure.
[07:22] <arash> hmm, which IP adress? the 192.168.0.10x something?
[07:22] <SlimeyPete> arash: yes, that sounds right.
[07:22] <arash> how do I find that one out :p?
[07:23] <DaSkreech> You have a Hemp Computer?
[07:23] <arash> no :p, what is that?
[07:23] <aantipop> ifconfig
[07:23] <SlimeyPete> arash: ifconfig
[07:23] <arash> man, what don't they simply have ipconfig XD ?
[07:23] <DaSkreech> Dunno I just swung around and saw HEMPC 2007
[07:24] <stdin> aantipop: I think it's: system settings > keyboard & mouse > mouse and un-check "visual feedback on activation"
[07:24] <arash> hem=home in swedish :)
[07:24] <thomas__> what's kubuntu's device manager
[07:24] <thomas__> my dvd burning is not working
[07:24] <aantipop> stdin: thanks, didnt find it myself
[07:25] <Jucato> stdin: your turn :)
[07:25] <stdin> Jucato: sweet dreams of pink ponies :p
[07:25] <Jucato> heheh
[07:25] <Jucato> no originality
[07:26] <stdin> ahh, it was all I could copy and paste at such short notice :)
[07:26] <Jucato> lol
[07:27] <thomas__> what's kubuntu's device manager
[07:28] <arash> it says connection refused :( , and I added port myIP port 22 TCP 'n' UDP on DLink
[07:28] <aantipop> is it possible to use the mouse-pointer loading theme when i start a application and not the bouncing icon ?
[07:28] <arash> the other ocmputer is Ubuntu and this is Kubuntu, does that matter?
[07:29] <stdin> arash: you need to have ssh installed on the one receiving the file(s), or you can use the Public File Server applet for kicker
[07:30] <BluesKaj> thomas__, kubuntu uses system settings or kcontrol for device management
[07:30] <arash> openssh-server?
[07:31] <arash> !find openssh
[07:31] <ubotu> Found: openssh-client, openssh-server
[07:31] <stdin> arash: yeah, but the package "ssh" installs the server
[07:31] <arash> stdin:  ah great, do I have to start it or?
[07:32] <stdin> arash: no, once it's installed it will start up
[07:33] <stdin> arash: the 1st time you try to connect it will say it can't verify the host, that's ok, just type in "yes" and press enter
[07:33] <arash> I can't send folder :p argh! , oh well, seems to work :)
[07:33] <arash> stdin:  cool! that exactly happend to me :)
[07:34] <thomas__> BluesKaj: but I can't find for example drivers that I have for my cd drive
[07:34] <stdin> arash: sure you can send folders, use scp -r folder user@host:/place/to/put/folder :)
[07:35] <arash> stdin:  darn knowitall :p
[07:36] <arash> can you do this to othercomputers through internet?
[07:36] <fkm> Is there a way to make Konquerors FTP client connect to SFTP servers?
[07:37] <stdin> arash: yeah, oh and want a GUI? open konqueror and use sftp://user@host :D
[07:37] <BluesKaj> thomas__,  kubuntu doesn't recognize your cd drive ?
[07:37] <thomas__> i gueses not i don't know
[07:38] <thomas__> i tried burning gavve me an error
[07:38] <arash> No, just because you said that :p (jk, thaks , a GUI is great)
[07:39] <thomas__> BluesKaj: ok I recognizes a cd but doesn't show any folders or files
[07:39] <arash> stdin:  hmm, I send from the Ubuntu, does Nautilus handle sftp protocol?
[07:40] <thomas__> BluesKaj: wait nm
[07:40] <stdin> arash: not sure, never use gnome. but I would think that it does
[07:41] <mattperry1976> genii: that test didn't work...got any other ideas?
[07:41] <[nrx] > Can anyone suggest why apt-get is resolving all download hosts to 1.0.0.0?
[07:42] <arash> hmm, I realized the root password is quite important to keep secret
[07:43] <stdin> arash: well yes, but seeing as k/ubuntu have root disabled that won't be a difficult secret to keep :P
[07:44] <arash> stdin: uh, OK , even though I didn't understand :)
[07:44] <ShaneN> Why isn't php5-mssql included in the sources?
[07:45] <stdin> !root | arash
[07:45] <ubotu> arash: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[07:45] <stdin> !info php5-mysql | ShaneN
[07:45] <ubotu> shanen: php5-mysql: MySQL module for php5. In component main, is optional. Version 5.2.1-0ubuntu1.4 (feisty), package size 63 kB, installed size 240 kB
[07:45] <stdin> ShaneN: it is
[07:45] <NickPresta> ShaneN, mssql?
[07:46] <mattperry1976> genii: here is the link that shows me how to setup minicom for what I'm trying to do http://forum.db-sat.eu/index.php?topic=1506.msg4369
[07:46] <llutz> [nrx] : check your nameserver
[07:46] <[nrx] > it's fine
[07:47] <[nrx] > llutz: it's only apt-get that's having that issue.. nslookup returns all addresses perfectly.
[07:47] <ShaneN> NickPresta: mssql as in MS-SQL, as in Microsoft SQL Server :)
[07:47] <NickPresta> ShaneN, I'm aware of what it is. Why would you think the repos would have that?
[07:48] <ironfroggy> ive added cifs mounts to fstab, with the rw option, but when i mount them im told "block device ... is write protected"
[07:48] <ShaneN> NickPresta: Because other distros do :)
[07:48] <ironfroggy> but why would it be? im giving credentials for a user that can write to the location on the server.
[07:48] <genii> mattperry1976: That site shows them using a normal serial port eg: ttyS0
[07:48] <stdin> ShaneN: then request it added to multiverse (as it's probably non-free)
[07:48] <DaSkreech> fkm: just use sftp
[07:49] <DaSkreech> arash: Do you know what root is?
[07:49] <ShaneN> stdin: It appears it was requested back in May: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2699953&postcount=15
[07:49] <arash> DaSkreech:  On trees :p ?
[07:50] <arash> DaSkreech:  well, i would guess the administrator task thingies...
[07:50] <mattperry1976> genii: when I did this in windows, I set it up as serial port 4 and it worked just fine...it's these little things that make me want to go back to windows, just because it takes 2 seconds rather than 2 weeks of research and still no solution...lol
[07:50] <DaSkreech> arash: Binary trees?
[07:50] <genii> mattperry1976: You don't have on the motherboard a DB9 connector??
[07:50] <DaSkreech> arash: Yes under UNIX all users are given rights and restrictions to files etc. EXCEPT for the special user "root" who has no restrictions
[07:51] <DaSkreech> So if something goes horribly wrong root can fix it
[07:51] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> I'm hoping someone will know the answer to this problem. I installed the "kubuntu-desktop" package so I could get KDE after losing my last install, but when I go through the setup, kpersonalizer crashes. If I try to restart KDM and log in again, it hangs on "Loading Window Manager". Any ideas on what to do?
[07:51] <genii> mattperry1976: Because then you only need a null-modem cable direct from there to the box you are trying to program
[07:51] <DaSkreech> however sine he has no restrictions if someone malicious becomes root he can cause great harm
[07:51] <ironfroggy> is there anything i need to install to make cifs mounts work properly?
[07:52] <mattperry1976> genii: yes, but I have been told that linux is this miraculous os that can duplicate anything in windows, and I'm finding that to be false
[07:52] <Chousuke> It's not supposed to duplicate windows.
[07:52] <Chousuke> whoever told you that was lying
[07:52] <genii> Chousuke: ditto
[07:52] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> mattperry1976: I'd love to get a hold of whoever told you that and show them how wrong they are
[07:52] <DaSkreech> mattperry1976: Who told you that? Get him to show the blue screen of Moaning an death!!!
[07:53] <DaSkreech> mattperry1976: In anycase what do you want to get done?
[07:53] <arash> mattperry1976 , it has terrible disadvantages in automation (for noobs like me), but KDE is worth it :p
[07:53] <Chousuke> automation? :/
[07:53] <Chousuke> you mean things it does for you throught a GUI?
[07:53] <Chousuke> -t
[07:53] <Chousuke> well, I suppose.
[07:53] <arash> well, I mean more of detecting hardware
[07:54] <Chousuke> hmmh
[07:54] <Chousuke> never had trouble with that :)
[07:54] <arash> which is really really really tedious if you have a new computer, I usually recommend to wait on installing linux to friends if they have new computers
[07:54] <stdin> ShaneN: well, if you need it now there's a deb on the bug page (you should also comment on the page) https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/+bug/87063
[07:55] <mattperry1976> I'm trying to send files to my fta sat box using minicom...which sounds simple enough, but I can't get linux (kubuntu gutsy) to tell me the serial path for one of my usb drives...any help would be appreciated
[07:56] <ShaneN> stdin: I get errors when trying to install that deb about the version of php5-common not being the right version (mine is newer). Is there a way to have it ignore that?
[07:57] <stdin> ShaneN: there is, but it probably wouldn't work when installed. you can try if you want?
[07:57] <ShaneN> stdin: Meh...
[07:57] <ironfroggy> is anyone else using a cifs line in fstab here?
[07:57] <deviance> I can seem to change Icons or Device names for my mobile phone, any ideas why?
[07:57] <deviance> Its plugged in the USB port
[07:57] <Dr_willis> ironfroggy,  i tend to use the smbfs, not cifs
[07:58] <deviance> I can access the data fine, its just naming and icon
[07:58] <Dr_willis> ironfroggy,  isent cifs a subset of that? i forget :)
[07:58] <DexterF> hi
[07:58] <DexterF> where can I get the kubuntu kernel patches *standalone*, not already patched into the kernel src?
[07:59] <DexterF> or: can I safely use a vanilla kernel?
[07:59] <llutz> mattperry1976: using a usb-2-serial device? ports should be /dev/ttyUSBX (X= 0...15)
[07:59] <ironfroggy> what package do i need for smbfs? i get bad fs on that.
[07:59] <Dr_willis> ironfroggy,  you may want to do some reading up on samba. it might be needed
[07:59] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> *thud* Ok, now I'm stumped. I can't find anything on KPersonalizer in Launchpad.
[07:59] <BluesKaj> samba. ironfroggy
[07:59] <stdin> DexterF: better to ask in #ubuntu-devel or #ubuntu-kernel for kernel questions
[07:59] <Dr_willis> I tend to use the fuse-smb stuff for my samba mounting needs
[07:59] <Dr_willis> !info samba-doc
[08:00] <ubotu> samba-doc: Samba documentation. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.24-2ubuntu1.2 (feisty), package size 6754 kB, installed size 14512 kB
[08:00] <ironfroggy> ah i see there is a smbfs package i didnt realize
[08:00] <Dr_willis> the samba-doc package has 2 whole books on setting up samba and conecting to windows machines
[08:00] <Dr_willis> smbfs is the FUSE SAMBA package. :) its what i use.
[08:00] <DaSkreech> mattperry; blast!!
[08:00] <ironfroggy> yeah ive read a good chunk of those books
[08:00] <Dr_willis> I make my local network appear on /home/username/Networkl with it
[08:00] <ironfroggy>  but it was some years ago i set this up before
[08:00] <ironfroggy> and i had to migrate to a new box and i lost my fstab backup
[08:00] <Dr_willis> http://www.swerdna.net.au/linhowtosambacifs.html
[08:00] <Dr_willis> has some examples.
[08:01] <ironfroggy> thanks
[08:01] <Dr_willis> I always had issues with samba shares on widnows machines with spaces in the names. :)
[08:01] <Dr_willis> the smbfs seems to work better for me.
[08:01] <deviance> !mounting
[08:01] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[08:01] <deviance> What is Mounting??
[08:01] <ironfroggy> seriously?
[08:02] <Dr_willis> Mounting is taking a filesystem and puting it on the 'directory' tree structure so you can access it.
[08:02] <stdin> deviance: see this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_%28Unix%29
[08:02] <deviance> For my mobile phone, should I have it mounted automaticly?
[08:02] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> I think I'm going to start up HydraIRC on my laptop and try installing the "kubuntu-desktop" package again.
[08:02] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> *on my desktop*
[08:02] <Dr_willis> If a filesystem (like a hard drive) is not mounted.. you CANT access it.
[08:02] <deviance> AH ok, thanks.,
[08:03] <deviance> So thats not a reason why I cant edit its name or icon then
[08:03] <deviance> Why would that be?
[08:03] <Dr_willis> if the mobile phone is hooked up via USB cable. You might be able to access it as if it was a hard drive.
[08:03] <Dr_willis> If it  has that feature.
[08:03] <deviance> It detects it as a camera
[08:03] <deviance> So its displayed on my desktop
[08:04] <Dr_willis> It just sees it with image files.. so it thinks its a camera.
[08:04] <Dr_willis> its guessing. :)
[08:04] <Dr_willis> and no  i dont know how to change it.. , never considered it a big deal.
[08:04] <deviance> Well, my mobile phone is just my memory card, which is a memory stick duo as you find in cameras
[08:04] <deviance> Okay, never mind then :P
[08:04] <Dr_willis> if you plyug the card into a USB reader. it may use a different icon.
[08:04] <notv> hey guys what is LVM defined as?
[08:05] <Dr_willis> again i dont consider it a big deal. :)
[08:05] <notv> is 160G considered LVM?
[08:05] <Dr_willis> LVM is  'logical volume manager' ...  Not sure what you are asking.
[08:05] <llutz> notv: no, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_Volume_Manager
[08:05] <notv> oh
[08:05] <[nrx] > Can anyone suggest why apt-get is resolving all download hosts to 1.0.0.0? nslookup in konsole works but firefox doesn't seem to work with hostnames either. DNS is obviously broken but I don't know what to try
[08:05] <notv> i thought it was about large volumes..heh
[08:05] <Dr_willis> it can be for VERY large volumes
[08:05] <DaSkreech> [nrx] : whats your DNS server ?
[08:06] <[nrx] > the wireless router
[08:06] <notv> whats the benefit of using LVM/
[08:06] <stdin> notv: depends what you're on about, but for filesystems, that's not large
[08:06] <newsense07> hi all, im running feisty  and have just upgraded to amorok 1.4.7 and now under serrings>engine i have no engines to choose from, any help ?
[08:06] <DaSkreech> [nrx] : where does that get the DNS from ?
[08:06] <Dr_willis> notv,  you can reize them easy. add more easy.. power user stuff. :)
[08:06] <[nrx] > isp :) lol
[08:06] <notv> hm
[08:06] <notv> thanks
[08:07] <[nrx] > it's not a network dns server issue, it's definately something i've done here
[08:07] <[nrx] > might be worth noting that i can only get the wireless connection up and running by using iwconfig
[08:07] <llutz> [nrx] : have you set a (non-existent) proxy?
[08:07] <[nrx] > llutz: no
[08:07] <notv> is there a better alternative to ndiswrapper?
[08:08] <notv> for an atheros card
[08:08] <llutz> notv: native drivers, madwifi
[08:08] <SlimeyPete> notv: atheros cards usually work with the madwifi drivers
[08:08] <SlimeyPete> mine does, for instance :)
[08:08] <stdin> notv: if the madwifi drivers don't work then you'll have to use ndiswrapper
[08:08] <notv> is madwifi better?
[08:08] <notv> are they open-source?
[08:08] <SlimeyPete> yes and yes
[08:08] <notv> i dont really like the idea of XP drivers
[08:09] <stdin> well, almost
[08:09] <newsense07> anyone know what package im missing as i have upgraded to amarok 1.4.7 and have no engines anymore ?
[08:09] <ironfroggy> i switched to smbfs but even with the verified username and password im getting access denied when i try to mount
[08:10] <stdin> newsense07: amarok-xine or amarok-engines ?
[08:10] <llutz> SlimeyPete: the hal-part of madwifi is closed source
[08:10] <newsense07> stdin: thanks much ill try those
[08:10] <SlimeyPete> llutz: is it? oh right
[08:10] <stdin> SlimeyPete: it has to be, it's some fcc law
[08:11] <notv> slimeypete can you tell me the easiest way to get madwifi, i dont think ill have gui up yet
[08:12] <shad-99> anyone nows how to make gps bu-353 to work with kubuntu?
[08:12] <BoneSolTeraDyne> Alright, I'm still having the same problem, except that KPersonalizer doesn't even show up. It tries to go into kde, but hangs on "Loading the window manager". Any ideas?
[08:13] <SlimeyPete> !madwifi
[08:13] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:13] <genii> back
[08:14] <SlimeyPete> notv: it "just worked" for me, as soon as I'd installed ubuntu
[08:15] <BoneSolTeraDyne> grr... Anyone know what log I can look at to see why KDE can't load the window manager?
[08:15] <llutz> notv: first make sure your wlan-card is supported by madwifi before trying to use it
[08:16] <aantipop> BoneSolTeraDyne:   xorg.0.log ??
[08:17] <aantipop> BoneSolTeraDyne: talking about kwin or kdm or X ?
[08:17] <notv> i have an atheros card
[08:17] <BoneSolTeraDyne> I think I found it. in /var/log/kdm.log, it's trying to load AIGLX for some reason...
[08:17] <notv> ar50007eg
[08:18] <notv> which one do you have slimeypete?
[08:18] <BoneSolTeraDyne> "(EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable" is the error it's throwing out.
[08:22] <BoneSolTeraDyne> Kwin still won't load, though. Maybe if I reconfigure Xorg and untick the DRI option...
[08:23] <funnelweb> hi
[08:23] <funnelweb> ich werds warscheinlih noch hundert mal fragen, sry
[08:23] <emilsedgh> !hi | funnelweb
[08:23] <ubotu> funnelweb: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[08:23] <emilsedgh> !de | funnelweb
[08:23] <BoneSolTeraDyne> !de | funnelweb
[08:23] <ubotu> funnelweb: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:23] <kkathman> BoneSolTeraDyne:  there are some bugs in that system that cause those errors with certain ATI cards
[08:23] <funnelweb> sry
[08:24] <funnelweb> i forgot it^^
[08:24] <BoneSolTeraDyne> kkathman, There's one problem. I'm using an Nvidia card.
[08:24] <kkathman> BoneSolTeraDyne:  well could be something similar, Im saying
[08:25] <genii> bah keep forgetting to /away
[08:25] <BoneSolTeraDyne> kkathman, Ok. Know of any fixes for it? I know GNOME, AfterStep, and FluxBox all work...
[08:25] <kkathman> BoneSolTeraDyne:  which card and which driver are you attempting to use?
[08:25] <genii> Did mattperry1976 get it sorted out for the usb modem etc? Curious
[08:26] <BoneSolTeraDyne> 8300GS, nv driver.
[08:26] <kkathman> genii:  not sure
[08:26] <sleon> hmm
[08:27] <sleon> how to stop ubuntu from fingring on my xorg.conf ?
[08:27] <sleon> each time it changes it and removes everything i add to it
[08:27] <genii> kkathman: Ok, thanks
[08:27] <sleon> it makes me mad
[08:27] <kkathman> sleon:  to my knowledge ubuntu doesnt make changes to xorg unless you tell it to
[08:27] <kkathman> its a file thats under sudo control in fact
[08:28] <sleon> kkathman: then what does this in my /var/log/user.log
[08:28] <sleon> means ??
[08:28] <sleon> Sep 13 20:03:24 chefe python: Graphics card hardware has changed. Reconfiguring xorg.conf using 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'.
[08:28] <sleon> and it removed stuff and moved my xorg.conf to xorg.conf123123123
[08:29] <sleon> and did it already two times
[08:29] <kkathman> sleon:  now I was just going to say...
[08:29] <sleon> kkathman: yes ?
[08:29] <kkathman> sleon:  if the kernel detects a change of hardware, it will attempt to resolve it
[08:29] <sleon> kkathman: and how to shut down this very very clever machnism ?
[08:30] <kkathman> so each time you change the xorg.conf with the same hardware
[08:30] <kkathman> it will change it back
[08:30] <sleon> Sep 13 20:03:26 chefe python: Writing graphics card hardware list to /var/lib/guidance/guidance-gfxhardware-snapshot
[08:30] <jessejazza> Hi - i wanted to try one of the other window environments. I'm new to ubuntu and have now loaded KDE. Fluxbox and enlightenment aren't there so what repository are they on?
[08:30] <sleon> is there a way to stop this idiotic thing ?
[08:31] <stdin> !info fluxbox
[08:31] <ubotu> fluxbox: Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.15.1+1.0rc2-1 (feisty), package size 899 kB, installed size 2888 kB
[08:31] <kkathman> sleon:  I would try to re run the xconfig xorg again and manually check the difference between the two
[08:31] <stdin> !info enlightenment
[08:31] <ubotu> enlightenment: The Enlightenment Window Manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.16.7.2-5 (feisty), package size 398 kB, installed size 1004 kB
[08:31] <deviance> Whats a good program to rip CD's?
[08:31] <kkathman> there's probably a good reason why its changing it
[08:31] <kkathman> deviance:  k3b
[08:31] <stdin> jessejazza: both in universe
[08:31] <kkathman> brb
[08:31] <genii> yup k3b
[08:32] <sleon> kkathman: the solution is
[08:32] <sleon> rc3.d/S20kde-guidance:  /usr/share/python-support/kde-guidance/displayconfig-hwprobe.py
[08:32] <sleon> rm -rf this stupid script
[08:32] <stdin> sleon: until the package is upgraded...
[08:32] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> I just might wipe everything and reinstall with my Kubuntu CD...
[08:33] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> XD, the disconnect left my other name online...
[08:33] <sleon> ok
[08:34] <sleon> any suggestion where to install mplayer from ?
[08:34] <sleon> !mplayer
[08:34] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[08:34] <sleon> !codecs
[08:34] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:34] <amnesiac_hackers> hai folks
[08:35] <jessejazza> thx stdin. I'm still learning my way around ubuntu. Tried KDE and XFCE and like them rather than the gnome
[08:35] <Dr_willis> install them all. :) thats what i do
[08:35] <tro> i've got this nice "feature" in my installation, where i can log in as root from a text console without a password, but it's required for remote login, sudo/su, etc. is it supposed to be like this, or did i mess up something with pam's config?
[08:35] <amnesiac_hackers> ubotu: can you help me i have trouble with tdfsb a 3d fileviewer
[08:35] <Dr_willis> tro,  sounds like a Huge security hole/mess up to me.
[08:35] <stdin> !bot > amnesiac_hackers
[08:36] <tro> Dr_willis: yeah, me too. I fiddled a bit with pam.d's config files when setting up the fingerprint reader, but i can't recall which ones i changed
[08:36] <deviance> How can I rip MP3 using k3b
[08:36] <deviance> ?
[08:36] <amnesiac_hackers> can somebody help me i have trouble with tdfsb a 3d fileviewer
[08:36] <Dr_willis> deviance,  not sure k3b can do that. I tend to use 'grip' to rip cd's to mp3
[08:36] <amnesiac_hackers> it gives the eror output freeglut  ERROR:  Function <glutStrokeCharacter> called without first calling 'glutInit'.
[08:36] <tro> Dr_willis: is it possible that i maybe never set the password for root 'cause I only use sudo and by default the password is not required?
[08:37] <Dr_willis> Thers also a dozen other tools out to do it :)
[08:37] <stdin> deviance: you need libk3b2-mp3 installed
[08:37] <Dr_willis> tro,  by default  root password does not exist.. that Not the same as 'not required' :)
[08:37] <jme> Hi everybody
[08:37] <jokijo> whats the best mp3 player for kubuntu?
[08:37] <Dr_willis> direct logging in as root is disabled.
[08:37] <amnesiac_hackers> hi jme
[08:37] <Dr_willis> jokijo,  depends on your needs.. try them out. use whats best for you
[08:37] <stdin> !best | jme
[08:37] <ubotu> jme: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[08:38] <tro> Dr_willis: ah, well, if i login as root, i can type anything and it lets me in
[08:38] <stdin> !players
[08:38] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[08:38] <amnesiac_hackers> jokijo: amarok
[08:38] <Dr_willis> tro,  that sounds like a major issue. :)
[08:38] <jokijo> thanks :)
[08:38] <sleon> how is the utility to configure sound hardware under ubuntu is called ?
[08:38] <tro> after running passwd, it looks like i just never set a password, 'cause it didn't ask me to type in the previous one
[08:38] <jokijo> i just installed kubuntu last night, i'm still adjusting
[08:38] <amnesiac_hackers> jokijo: np
[08:39] <tro> Dr_willis: logging in as root is disabled even from text consoles?
[08:39] <stdin> tro: we use "sudo -i" to get a root shell
[08:39] <jme> hi all, i'm juste starting with kubuntu, when the live cd boot it ask a me username and password, does anyone know what are this user/passwd?
[08:39] <arash> sleon, I really need to know that too !
[08:39] <amnesiac_hackers> tro: use the sudo commands
[08:40] <hermit> !codecs
[08:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:40] <stdin> jme: it shouldn't ask you for one, it goes straight to the desktop
[08:40] <sleon> !hardware
[08:40] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[08:40] <sleon> !hardwareconfig
[08:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hardwareconfig - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:40] <sleon> !sex
[08:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sex - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:40] <tro> stdin: i know, but i don't want anyone to be able to just type in "root" on my machine and login as root
[08:40] <sleon> hmm
[08:40] <sleon> !hardware+sex
[08:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hardware+sex - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:40] <tro> right now, that's the case
[08:40] <stdin> !botabuse > sleon
[08:40] <Dr_willis> tro,  sounds like you broke Pam. :)
[08:40] <arash> sleon , you can pm ubotu!!!!!!!!!, stop stpamming
[08:41] <sleon>  ok ok :)
[08:41] <amnesiac_hackers> sleon: hardware+sex is cyber-dildo
[08:41] <stdin> tro: they need to be in the admin group to use it, only the 1st user is by default
[08:41] <arash> jme , are you in the LiveCD desktop now?
[08:41] <tro> stdin: right now, ANYONE can type in "root" as login at the text shell and press enter and it lets them in
[08:41] <Dr_willis> the new iVibe
[08:41] <Dr_willis> tro,  you mean the 'console' :)
[08:42] <amnesiac_hackers> hahahahaha
[08:42] <Dr_willis> try sshing in. :) it may be worse then you thought
[08:42] <tro> Dr_willis: yeah. the console that pops up after pressing ctrl+alt+f1, for example
[08:42] <stdin> tro: they can only do it if they have sudo rights, ie: are in the admin group...
[08:42] <Dr_willis> tro,  that is known as the 'console' :)
[08:42] <jme> not yet only a user password interface :s
[08:42] <Dr_willis> tro,  you should of backed up your Pam config/whtever files befor messing with them. :)
[08:43] <stdin> tro: unless you set a root pass then just removed the password...
[08:43] <jme> i've change the root password from a console but it don't allow root log in
[08:43] <stdin> !ot | sleon
[08:43] <ubotu> sleon: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[08:43] <jme> maybe adding a new user will do the trick
[08:43] <tro> Dr_willis: no, i tried that already. sshd root logins are disabled and if i do "su" then i need to type in the correct password
[08:43] <hermit> !easyubuntu
[08:43] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[08:43] <amnesiac_hackers> jme: tried adding anew system user
[08:43] <amnesiac_hackers> ???
[08:44] <jme> how to add a system user?
[08:44] <amnesiac_hackers> jme: sudo useradd -system etc....
[08:44] <stdin> jme: if you aren't being brought to the desktop on the live cd then the cd isn't right
[08:44] <luca> hi everyone
[08:44] <amnesiac_hackers> hi luca
[08:44] <stdin> jme: check the md5sum and it's integrity
[08:45] <luca> does someone know how to remove a program installed from source with cmake?
[08:45] <luca> sudo make uninstall does not function
[08:45] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Ok, I figured out where Kpersonalizer crashes. I click "Next" after the "Performance" screen, and it throws out a SIGSEGV signal.
[08:45] <stdin> luca: then you'll have to find all the files it installed and remove them
[08:45] <amnesiac_hackers> ubotu:cmake
[08:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cmake - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:45] <sleon> ok, so can anybody in this channel tell me what is the name of a program with wich a can set up my brand new sound card so i can hear moans in porno films ??
[08:46] <jokijo> !players
[08:46] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[08:46] <stdin> !sound | sleon
[08:46] <ubotu> sleon: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[08:46] <amnesiac_hackers> ubotu:tdbfs
[08:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tdbfs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:46] <amnesiac_hackers> ubotu:tdbfs
[08:46] <stdin> amnesiac_hackers: stop that
[08:47] <amnesiac_hackers> stdin: i trie to get info about the tdbfs 3dfileviewer
[08:47] <luca> stdin: any idea on how to find a list of those files? :'(
[08:47] <amnesiac_hackers> i can ask or not ???
[08:47] <stdin> amnesiac_hackers: then /msg ubotu
[08:47] <amnesiac_hackers> AH damn sorry stdin
[08:47] <amnesiac_hackers> hahaha
[08:48] <stdin> luca: run: script -c "sudo make install"       maybe, then you'll have a log of where it installs stuff to
[08:49] <luca> stdin thanks
[08:49] <luca> ah ah did it :)
[08:49] <luca> thanks
[08:49] <luca> another thing maybe
[08:50] <amnesiac_hackers> see ya later folks
[08:50] <luca> the program I am going to remove is kgtk (a wrapper for gtk applications in kde)
[08:50] <bigleon> Woooo willy you on???
[08:50] <luca> which has a serious bug IMHO - at least, on my box it recursively executes itself and the program it wraps over and over
[08:51] <luca> problem is, I already gave the command "sudo ln -s /usr/bin/kgtk-wrapper /usr/bin/firefox" :(
[08:51] <bigleon> Sooo, this would be my 7th attempt at getting linux to work on my E1705 I can seem to get 6.06 and sometimes 6.10 but sofar it always goes sour at 7.04 any tips?
[08:51] <luca> will I have to reinstall firefox for this rather stupid move of mine?
[09:09] <BoneSolTeraDyne> I didn't know HydraIRC had that feature...
[09:09] <rectorbi> demonter partition
[09:09] <stdin> luca: just do "cd /usr/bin ; sudo rm firefox ; sudo ln -s ../lib/firefox/firefox firefox "
[09:09] <bigleon> Hallo stdin. got any ideas for getting 7.04 to work on my E1705?
[09:09] <luca> stdin: thanks :)
[09:09] <stdin> bigleon: depends what the problem is
[09:09] <bigleon> Well, from what i understand my Vid Card is one problem, it's X1400 Mobility
[09:09] <stdin> bigleon: does the liveCD work?
[09:09] <bigleon> well i only got live CD from 6.06
[09:09] <luca> ok thanks stdin, by all :)
[09:09] <stdin> bigleon: so you're upgrading to 7.04?
[09:09] <bigleon> Trying lol
[09:09] <stdin> bigleon: so what's not working?
[09:09] <Mr_Pan> hi i have a 3com wifi pci card , i can see it into LSPCI list but i can't see and configure with ICONFIG and IWCONFIG commands. any ideas?
[09:09] <stdin> !wifi | Mr_Pan
[09:09] <ubotu> Mr_Pan: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:09] <Mr_Pan> stdin, ok thanks
[09:09] <bigleon> well i've yet to get it to boot once i go from 6.10 to 7.04
[09:09] <stdin> bigleon: what happens?
[09:09] <bigleon> last time it gave some bcmXX error, and told me i was missing video drivers, and time before that it was missing something about a keymap
[09:09] <stdin> bigleon: does it go to a (text) login prompt then?
[09:09] <bigleon> if i go in recovery mode
[09:09] <bigleon> other wise it just freezes
[09:09] <stdin> bigleon: I'm guessing you installed the ati driver by downloading the .bin or .run file from ati.com ?
[09:09] <bigleon> nope xorg-xserver-fgrlx or something like that
[09:09] <ironfroggy> ive got my smbfs mounts working but how do i get them to be owned by a specific user?
[09:09] <ironfroggy> i cant find anything on that yet
[09:09] <stdin> bigleon: what happens when you do a normal boot? does it freeze up or just not start X?
[09:09] <bigleon> freeze up
[09:09] <bigleon> i've reinstalled and back at 6.06
[09:09] <jokijo> i cant get amarok to play music
[09:09] <jokijo> !amarok
[09:09] <ubotu> Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[09:09] <bigleon> i'm at ati's page, which driver do i need
[09:09] <bigleon>  i see xp
[09:09] <bigleon> and then i see something about 'Hydra"
[09:09] <stdin> bigleon: hmm, I'd try asking on https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ you'll get more chance of someone knowing there
[09:09] <bigleon> well i'm going to run to local shop, and grab a Cd-rw and burn the live cd of 7.04 and try
[09:09] <stdin> bigleon: you can order one off shipit too, it'll take a few weeks tho
[09:09] <jme> amnesiac_hackers: i've juste check the md5 and it's ok :s
[09:09] <jokijo> amarok says "some media could not be loaded (not playable)"
[09:09] <jokijo> for mp3s
[09:09] <bigleon> gah..
[09:09] <bigleon> yeah stdin lol
[09:09] <bigleon> 4-6
[09:09] <bigleon> and i need a working comp by next week lol
[09:09] <stdin> jokijo: install mp3 support, get the libxine1-ffmpeg package
[09:09] <jokijo> i installed the mp3 support
[09:09] <hermit> !amarok-xine
[09:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amarok-xine - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:09] <vapashos> anyone who can help me with the installation of new kubuntu?i have some problems
[09:09] <vapashos> please talk to me
[09:09] <stdin> !ask
[09:09] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:09] <vge> !ask
[09:09] <vge> :)
[09:09] <vapashos> ok
[09:09] <vapashos> i have inserted the cd i have downloaded from the site
[09:10] <vapashos> i selected starting and installing kubuntu
[09:10] <vapashos> and it shows me up some messages
[09:10] <[nrx] > gah
[09:10] <vapashos> and stops saying starting bluetooth devices
[09:10] <vapashos> probably because i dont have any on my pc
[09:11] <vapashos> how can i make it skip this?
[09:11] <[nrx] > am i here?
[09:12] <bigleon> i would think so nrx
[09:13] <vapashos> anyone how can help me?
[09:13] <[nrx] > is there a default template for routes?
[09:13] <[nrx] > im not sure how it should look :/
[09:13] <bigleon> nrx try a google search for starters nrx
[09:13] <bigleon> i can try vapashos
[09:13] <[nrx] > i can't
[09:13] <bigleon> why not?
[09:13] <[nrx] > because DNS is screwed on here
[09:13] <bigleon> want me to get you an IP for google.com
[09:13] <[nrx] > irc client seems ok... nslookup works..
[09:13] <[nrx] > but nothing else works with dns
[09:14] <bigleon> try, Http://72.14.207.99
[09:15] <jokijo> i cant get amarok to play music
[09:15] <hitmanWilly> [nrx] , whats in /etc/resolv.conf
[09:15] <BoneSolTeraDyne> Well, I think Kwin is dead for some reason. It just won't load when KDE starts up
[09:15] <[nrx] > nameserver 192.168.1.1
[09:15] <bigleon> hmm, well i gotta run to the store
[09:15] <hitmanWilly> [nrx] , is your router a dns server?
[09:15] <vapashos> no one helps me i think its not such difficult
[09:16] <bigleon> hey hitman i killed it last night after all that work, i'm buying a cd so i can burn fiesty to it lol
[09:16] <[nrx] > yes
[09:16] <[nrx] > why does konqueror work.. but firefox doesn't? :O
[09:16] <hitmanWilly> [nrx] , try adding this line: nameserver 24.159.64.23
[09:16] <bigleon> Vapashos, try and google start up sqeunce and how to ed =it it
[09:17] <[nrx] > hitmanWilly: i've tried different nameservers (external) and it doesn't make any difference
[09:17] <hitmanWilly> [nrx] , hmm, well, that's usually where dns issues occur...are you using a proxy?
[09:17] <[nrx] > hitmanWilly: no
[09:17] <[nrx] > hitmanWilly: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37336/
[09:18] <bigleon> Are you on a college or business network, that might have blocked you?
[09:18] <hitmanWilly> [nrx] , i take it it hangs at 0%
[09:18] <[nrx] > im at home.. and the rest of the pc's are fine
[09:18] <[nrx] > hitmanWilly: well, look at the IP it's resolving
[09:19] <bigleon> it might be possible servers are down or something. well i'll be back in 20 minutes
[09:19] <hitmanWilly> heh, missed that one :)
[09:19] <hitmanWilly> im pretty sure 1.0.0.0 isn't a valid ip for that...
[09:19] <[nrx] > i can't figure it out :(
[09:19] <[nrx] > i've got connection problems in general..
[09:20] <[nrx] > i have to manually run iwconfig to get connected.. but that's only here at home, at the office network, it's all fine and good
[09:20] <hitmanWilly> [nrx] , hmmm, sounds like router issues, actually
[09:20] <[nrx] > can't be router issues because all the other pc's here are fine
[09:20] <hitmanWilly> [nrx] , well, double check and make sure its not filtering traffic to that particular machine
[09:21] <[nrx] > it's not :(
[09:21] <hitmanWilly> weird...
[09:21] <[nrx] > it's defo not a router issue
[09:21] <[nrx] > konquerer seems to be fine.. works with all addresses
[09:21] <[nrx] > nslookup in console is fine
[09:21] <[nrx] > firefox doesn't seem to want to work with addresses
[09:21] <[nrx] > and apt-get.. well, you've seen what that's doing
[09:22] <hitmanWilly> [nrx] , try reinstalling ff and see if it helps...
[09:22] <hitmanWilly> [nrx] , oh right, no apt...
[09:22] <[nrx] > uh huh
[09:23] <hitmanWilly> [nrx] , try aptitude and see if that works
[09:23] <[nrx] > hitmanWilly: same problem
[09:23] <hitmanWilly> ugh...ok
[09:24] <jokijo> anyone know why amarok wont play mp3s?
[09:24] <DexterF> is this procedure any promising for having a 2.6.22 kernel in feisty? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-upgrade-kernel2622-9-generic-in-feisty-fawn.html
[09:24] <BoneSolTeraDyne> hitmanWilly, if firefox is installed, wouldn't the package be located on the hard drive? dpkg -r and dpkg -i might work in that situation.
[09:24] <DexterF> it installs a gutsy kernel, but is that fine rgarding glibc and such?
[09:24] <hitmanWilly> yeah, that was my next suggestion
[09:24] <BoneSolTeraDyne> jokijo, you need to install libxine0-ffmpeg
[09:25] <BoneSolTeraDyne> !find libxine0-ffmpeg
[09:25] <ubotu> Package/file libxine0-ffmpeg does not exist in feisty
[09:25] <hitmanWilly> [nrx] , try dpkg-reconfigure firefox
[09:25] <BoneSolTeraDyne> !find libxine1-ffmpeg
[09:25] <ubotu> Found: libxine1-ffmpeg
[09:25] <BoneSolTeraDyne> ok, so it's libxine1-fmpeg
[09:25] <jokijo> okay
[09:26] <BoneSolTeraDyne> libxine1-ffpmeg*
[09:26] <stdin> DexterF: the kernel doesn't depend on any particular version of glibc
[09:27] <DexterF> oO
[09:27] <stdin> DexterF: although 2.6.22-11 is the current gutsy, not -9
[09:27] <DexterF> seriously...? I remember strange symbol errors when I tried putting foreign kernel stuff in distro once...
[09:27] <DexterF> good to know
[09:28] <jokijo> bones, that's already installed
[09:28] <stdin> DexterF: symbol? sounds more like module errors
[09:28] <DexterF> stdin: heck yes you're right, it was about modules.
[09:28] <hitmanWilly> you generally need to compile the kernel modules and the kernel on the same gcc version
[09:28] <DexterF> hmm. 2.6.22 here I come.
[09:29] <jokijo> i get the error message on the bottom that says "some media could not be loaded (not playable)"
[09:29] <hitmanWilly> which is why if you update gcc and recompile just the modules, it won't work
[09:29] <DexterF> hitmanWilly: but that deosn't necessarily need to be the same as the rest of the distro?
[09:29] <hitmanWilly> DexterF, no, just the stuff in the kernel
[09:29] <BoneSolTeraDyne> jokijo, did you keep amarok open when you installed libxine1-ffmpeg?
[09:30] <DexterF> ok maybe that solves my usb issues
[09:30] <hitmanWilly> DexterF, which includes any binary video drivers
[09:30] <jokijo> no it was already installed
[09:30] <hitmanWilly> DexterF, so if you recompile the kernel you'll need to reinstall the nvidia/fglrx driver
[09:30] <BoneSolTeraDyne> O_O; ok, that's odd. what format is the file you're trying to play? MP3?
[09:30] <jokijo> mp3, yes
[09:31] <hitmanWilly> DexterF, assuming you use one of them
[09:31] <jokijo> and it plays the matthias edwards amarok welcome message
[09:31] <BoneSolTeraDyne> jokijo, that's odd. It should be able to play it...
[09:31] <hitmanWilly> jokijo, install libxine-extracodecs
[09:32] <DexterF> hitmanWilly: actually not. vmnet, ok, can be recompiled. r300 runs Google Earth alright :)
[09:32] <BoneSolTeraDyne> jokijo, that message is in OGG format, IIRC
[09:32] <jokijo> ok
[09:33] <hitmanWilly> DexterF, ok, but any kernel modules that don't come built in need to be recompiled
[09:33] <DexterF> no prob
[09:33] <hitmanWilly> DexterF, which is usually video drivers and vmware IIRC
[09:33] <BoneSolTeraDyne> *sigh* This is about to drive me nuts. KDE still won't load past "Loading the Window Manager"
[09:34] <jokijo> now it says "No suitable demux plugin. This often means that the file format is not supported."
[09:34] <hitmanWilly> jokijo, internet radio station?
[09:34] <jokijo> mp3
[09:35] <hitmanWilly> jokijo, hmmm....did you restart amarok?
[09:35] <jokijo> yes
[09:35] <hitmanWilly> jokijo, all the way, not just into the system tray?
[09:36] <jokijo> hmmm.. no
[09:36] <jokijo> okay :) i bet that fixes it
[09:36] <BoneSolTeraDyne> *facepalm*
[09:36] <hitmanWilly> maybe
[09:36] <BluesKaj> jokijo, you must ahve patience, sometimes one has to 2-3 times on some internet stns to connect
[09:36] <jokijo> that did it!
[09:36] <hitmanWilly> BluesKaj, 2-3? maybe on a good day...
[09:36] <Kein> Where would asound.conf be kept in Kubuntu?  I checked /etc/ but it wasn't there.
[09:37] <BluesKaj> hitmanWilly, :)
[09:37] <hitmanWilly> jokijo, ok, good :)
[09:38] <BluesKaj> Kein, sometimes it has to be created
[09:41] <jokijo> this is awesome - i just installed kubuntu last night, i've been on windows my whole life
[09:41] <sleon> stdin: the problem is that sound card is not conifgured
[09:41] <jokijo> i'm lovin it
[09:41] <sleon> is there 2.6.21 kernel for ubunt u?
[09:42] <Kein> Alright.
[09:42] <stdin> sleon: no, there is 2.6.20 and 2.6.22, not 2.6.21
[09:42] <hitmanWilly> jokijo, welcome to the revolution...lol
[09:42] <jokijo> thanks!
[09:42] <Kein> jokijo: you'll love it, but you'll need to work with it a lot more.  Say bye to a lot of games if you aren't willing to work with WINE.
[09:42] <Kein> =(
[09:42] <sleon> stdin: where to get 2.6.22 from ??
[09:42] <jokijo> i dont play any games except yahoo chess lol
[09:42] <stdin> sleon: it's in gutsy
[09:43] <sleon> stdin: is it easy to install it on 7.04?
[09:43] <hitmanWilly> sleon, it installs by defualt
[09:43] <sleon> hitmanWilly on 7.04?
[09:43] <hitmanWilly> oh, nm, no on feisty, its a pita
[09:43] <stdin> sleon: gutsy is 7.10
[09:44] <sven_oostenbrink> I just installed compiz, all great stuff, but now  my desktop pager in the kicker bar is showing me 20 (!!) desktops.. How do I fix this, or how can I simply disable the desktop pager??
[09:44] <sleon> is there a way to install 2.6.22 on 7.04 ?
[09:44] <stdin> sleon: you can try http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-upgrade-kernel2622-9-generic-in-feisty-fawn.html but no guarantees
[09:44] <sleon> what is interesting
[09:44] <sleon> soundmixer (alsamixer) works with 2.6.17
[09:44] <stdin> sven_oostenbrink: just remove the applet from kicker...
[09:44] <sleon> but i get error no mixer device with 2.6.20
[09:44] <BluesKaj> Kein, if you are following an audio tutorial it isn't unusual to have to create the asound.conf file ...i know I had to.
[09:45] <jhutchins> Is mailmain really the simplest list manager available for postfix?
[09:46] <uga> hitmanWilly: heh, I got my box. I hope I'll be able to get it up and running ;)
[09:46] <hitmanWilly> BluesKaj, try creating a grub.conf or xorg.conf from scratch sometime :)
[09:46] <uga> an asus pk5 and core2 quad cpu
[09:46] <Kein> Alright, can you send me it as a base or something?  I have no clue what it's supposed to look like.
[09:46] <hitmanWilly> uga, good luck...asus hw is usually pretty well supported
[09:46] <sven_oostenbrink> stdin, okay... how do I do that? :) dumbo question, I know, but still..
[09:47] <uga> hitmanWilly: basically a motherboard upgrade became a whole box upgrade... so I'm hoping for the worst ;)
[09:47] <uga> s/hoping/expecting
[09:47] <hitmanWilly> lol
[09:47] <hitmanWilly> been there before
[09:48] <sven_oostenbrink> stdin, never mind
[09:48] <uga> actually they said they'd receive the pieces by monday, so I still don't have it with me physically. pretty excited :P
[09:48] <stdin> sven_oostenbrink: you found it then?
[09:48] <hitmanWilly> uga, heh, something like that is how i started building my own computers
[09:50] <uga> hitmanWilly: the board needed a new power supply, no more agp->new video card, a decent fan system->new box (silent I hope)...
[09:51] <uga> basically I picked each piece. I could either mount it myself, or they'll do it for 40eur =)
[09:51] <hitmanWilly> lol
[09:51] <uga> the only thing I'm not upgrading is the dvd and dvd+rw
[09:51] <uga> the board seems to include two network cards too... I wonder if they'll work out of the box
[09:52] <hitmanWilly> uga, asus board, then yeah, probably
[09:52] <hitmanWilly> uga, my current one's an old asus socket 939
[09:52] <BluesKaj> Kein, do a locate in konq - asound
[09:53] <mahboob> How do I install mplayer?
[09:53] <uga> hitmanWilly: do they run stable? I wanted an intel board, but they had none :/
[09:53] <dappermuis> mahboob: with apt-get
[09:53] <hitmanWilly> mahboob, adept
[09:53] <emilsedgh> !mplayer | mahboob
[09:53] <ubotu> mahboob: mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[09:53] <hitmanWilly> uga, yup, never had a problem with this one
[09:53] <uga> hitmanWilly: I've had this box running for whole months without a problem, so I was happy with intel
[09:53] <mahboob> have tried with no success
[09:54] <mahboob> have even downl the binarys
[09:54] <Kein> BluesKaj: I did. =(
[09:54] <Kein> It crashed Konqueror.
[09:54] <stdin> mahboob: do you have multiverse enabled ?
[09:54] <hitmanWilly> uga, im on 13 days, since my last kernel recompile
[09:54] <mahboob> yes
[09:54] <mahboob> but theres something wrong
[09:54] <stdin> mahboob: what happens when you try to install it then?
[09:54] <uga> hitmanWilly: hehe, when will kubuntu supply a kernel hot-swapping system? :P
[09:55] <BluesKaj> Kein, whoa, konq unstable :P
[09:55] <mahboob> sometimes it works to install stuff and sometimes not
[09:55] <stdin> uga: you can do that now, with kexec
[09:55] <mahboob> package broken
[09:55] <hitmanWilly> uga, well, this is my gentoo machine right now, but yeah...
[09:55] <uga> stdin: kexec? lemme check... is that some sort of virtual machine?
[09:55] <mahboob> with binarys its says my gcc is not valid
[09:56] <uga> oh nice... I just found it
[09:56] <uga> stdin: great, thanks
[09:56] <mahboob> have install gcc4.0
[09:56] <BluesKaj> Kein, on feisty
[09:56] <BluesKaj> ?
[09:56] <hitmanWilly> mahboob, you shouldn't need gcc with binaries
[09:56] <stdin> uga: it loads the new kernel in to memory then unloads the old one, you're dreams are coming true :P
[09:57] <uga> stdin: if that works, I'm already dreaming ;)
[09:57] <mahboob> well thats what it told me
[09:57] <uga> stdin: now I only need a geek gf, and the world would be perfeKt
[09:57] <hitmanWilly> stdin, wow, have to look into that one...never need to reboot...ever...
[09:58] <uga> hitmanWilly: sure your electricity supplier will love you more
[09:58] <emilsedgh> uga: no, not gf, you need kf
[09:58] <uga> =)
[09:58] <hitmanWilly> uga, its cheap out here...
[09:58] <hitmanWilly> uga, plus you use up more power on reboot than just running normal
[09:59] <uga> yeah, I meant you should shut it down sometimes and let it rest ;)
[09:59] <uga> now it'll have no chances. Running 365/24
[09:59] <sean__> I'm suing this sudo cp -R * /mnt/backup/irvhome/ to backup my home directory but it doesn't appaer to be picking up hidden files
[09:59] <hitmanWilly> lol
[09:59] <sean__> doing
[10:00] <hitmanWilly> uga, there's servers out there that run for years upon years without shutting down
[10:00] <stdin> sean__: try "sudo cp -a . /mnt/backup/irvhome/"
[10:01] <sean__> anyone know how I can recursively copy a group of hidden directories
[10:01] <stdin> sean__: may be easier to tar it actually
[10:01] <uga> hitmanWilly: I had mine working for 31 days recently, but usually I reboot now and then
[10:01] <jhutchins> sean__: cp -R
[10:01] <jhutchins> sean__: or -r, check man cp
[10:01] <stdin> sean__: and -a is better for backups than -r
[10:02] <hitmanWilly> tar can do incremental backups too, IIRC
[10:03] <stdin> yep, with -u
[10:03] <sean__> sudo cp -a . /mnt/backup/irvhome/ is going to only do the hideen files
[10:03] <uga> uhm... I should set up my old disk as backup for the new box's home
[10:03] <sean__> I want to backup my whole home directory
[10:03] <stdin> sean__: no, -a does it all
[10:04] <stdin> sean__: and tar is probably better anyway
[10:04] <x_link> sudo aptitude instlal mplayer, shouldn't that install mplayer in Kubuntu?
[10:04] <sean__> I want to use rsync after
[10:04] <stdin> x_link: yeah, if you have multiverse
[10:04] <hitmanWilly> x_link, yes, should
[10:04] <hitmanWilly> stdin, mplayer's in multiverse?
[10:05] <stdin> hitmanWilly: yep
[10:05] <hitmanWilly> stdin, wow...why?
[10:05] <hitmanWilly> stdin, i can see vlc being in there, but mplayer's pretty much standard nix equipment these days
[10:06] <stdin> hitmanWilly: probably because it depends/recommends or suggests on something in multiverse
[10:06] <hitmanWilly> hmmm, k
[10:06] <x_link> stdin: Okej
[10:07] <x_link> stdin: This guy use dapper, so I should tell him to change the repo to multiverse?
[10:07] <stdin> x_link: to add multiverse, yes
[10:07] <x_link> Okej
[10:07] <phanto1> help alternative to session from gnome in KDE is placing a link in which folder ? I forgot.
[10:07] <x_link> mahboob: Hi there! =) Change your repo to multiverse at the end.
[10:08] <vge> phanto1: ~/.kde/Autostart?
[10:09] <DexterF> hitmanWilly: meh. that gutsy kernel wanted libc6
[10:09] <cupus> hej
[10:09] <hitmanWilly> DexterF, heh...
[10:09] <phanto1> vge:Thanks.
[10:09] <stdin> DexterF: ahh, because one of it's dependencies wanted it probably
[10:09] <kcg> does anyone know how to play mkv files in kubuntu perfectly?
[10:10] <stdin> !mkv
[10:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:10] <DexterF> stdin: so you think I might succeed if I installed the debs manually?
[10:10] <hitmanWilly> DexterF, no, you'd probably run into dependency hell
[10:10] <stdin> DexterF: just do it the apt-get way, libc6 is normally backwards-completable anyway
[10:10] <DexterF> well guess ill compile a vanilla
[10:11] <hitmanWilly> DexterF, heh, have fun with that....
[10:11] <hitmanWilly> DexterF, especially on a buntu box
[10:11] <DexterF> why?
[10:12] <hitmanWilly> DexterF, imho, ubuntu's setup makes compiling your own kernel much more difficult than it has to be
[10:12] <Meowmixiscoo> I need some help.
[10:12] <DexterF> hitmanWilly: how's that? the kernel guys here told me its just hardware support
[10:13] <Meowmixiscoo> I just got my Kubuntu CD in the mail and I'm trying to install.
[10:13] <hitmanWilly> DexterF, ok, you know what an init image is?
[10:13] <DexterF> hitmanWilly: well, sure
[10:14] <Meowmixiscoo> The CD loaded and everything alright, but then my monitor went black and is saying "Cannot Dispplay This Video Mode Optimum resolution 1280X 1024 60hz
[10:14] <cupus_> witam
[10:14] <DexterF> hitmanWilly: built a hundred kernels but been on slackware for years, apt still is a lil scary to me ;)
[10:14] <stdin> hitmanWilly: Re: mplayer in multiverse, it depends on libfaac0  liblame0  libmp4v2-0  libx264-54 libxvidcore4, which are all in multiverse, so that's why
[10:14] <cupus_> kto mi pomorze mam maly problem z kubuntu
[10:14] <waylandbill_> It's been over a year since I even wanted to recompile a kernel. My hardware was supported, so I didn't bother.
[10:14] <DexterF> Meowmixiscoo: laptop?
[10:14] <Meowmixiscoo> Nope
[10:14] <DexterF> tft?
[10:14] <rasto_> hi guys, is this a kubuntu help channel?
[10:15] <emilsedgh> rasto_: yes :)
[10:15] <DexterF> rasto_: no, this is the kubuntu help channel :)
[10:15] <rasto_> aha ok, tnx bye
[10:15] <Anarch> Gnome boots into 1280x1024 but KDE goes to 1024x768.  KDE applets can't change the resolution; it has to be done outside X, but not in xorg.conf AFAIK.  Where does KDE store it?  This is an Intel 965 chipset & I have the new intel driver installed under Feisty.
[10:15] <Meowmixiscoo> Desktop PC.
[10:15] <DexterF> hitmanWilly: so - what's the story about init images in ubuntu?
[10:16] <uga> hitmanWilly: now, what a nightmare... should I make this box my first non-floppied box or should I migrate the drive? :P
[10:16] <hitmanWilly> DexterF, well, ubuntu puts EVERYTHING in there, including filesystem drivers, plus on every subsequent kernel update, its going to modify grub.conf with the new stock kernel
[10:16] <hitmanWilly> uga, i haven't used floppy drives in years :)
[10:16] <waylandbill_> DexterF: apt isn't scary. Building all your dependencies with no simple way to remove them later. Now that's scary! :)
[10:16] <uga> Anarch: are you using some tool like krandr maybe?
[10:16] <uga> kde can set resolution with it
[10:17] <kcg> stdin, i got vlc installed for mkv but doesn't seem to work very well, it crashes when i move the clip forward
[10:17] <uga> Anarch: try execute krandrtray
[10:17] <uga> and change sie through the small icon you'll get in the system tray
[10:17] <hitmanWilly> DexterF, and its going to modify all your config files to reference the new kernel headers, etc
[10:17] <waylandbill_> hitmanWilly: with 1 or more GB of RAM in today's systems, the extra memory usage in a loaded kernel doesn't cause that big of a hit.
[10:18] <uga> hitmanWilly: I haven't either, but all boxes came with one, hehe
[10:18] <hitmanWilly> waylandbill_, i know, im just trying to explain why rolling your own under buntu is such a pain
[10:19] <waylandbill_> hitmanWilly: I agree. Although I think if you remove the kernel image package, some of those issues go away.
[10:19] <hitmanWilly> waylandbill_, yes, that's possible, but buntu doesn't like when you do that
[10:20] <hitmanWilly> DexterF, this isn't slackware or gentoo, its not really set up to do this kind of thing
[10:21] <waylandbill_> hitmanWilly: I've done it in the past. It's possible it's now something else's dependency which would cause a mess.
[10:21] <DexterF> what, not set up to compile custom kernels? I doubt that
[10:21] <bigleon> Bleh! had to walk clear across town to grab some cd's :(
[10:21] <waylandbill_> DexterF: you can, but it's not the point of the distro. The point is to install and go.
[10:22] <hitmanWilly> DexterF, ok, go ahead and give it a try...i've done it before myself, and trust me when i say, its not worth the headache
[10:22] <Anarch> uga: Never heard of krandr, am now investigating what it is.
[10:22] <rasto_> i installed the nvida binary x.org drivers... (i am fresh on linux, my first day)... i got problems with beryl, when i click beryl manager my desktop turns all white. i tried to install the drivers from the nvidia page but i could install the drivers coz of the root pass... help?
[10:22] <hitmanWilly> DexterF, now my gentoo box, that's a different story :)
[10:22] <waylandbill_> DexterF: gentoo, slack, arch and even LFS are more geared to that kind of thing.
[10:23] <DexterF> hitmanWilly: totally is since most of my USB stuff is fscked up in feisty due to their bloody USB_SUSPEND
[10:23] <DexterF> waylandbill_: I know, I ran slack for 6 years or so
[10:23] <hitmanWilly> DexterF, ah, ok...honestly, you could probably just rmmod something for that
[10:23] <DexterF> oO
[10:24] <hitmanWilly> DexterF, like i said, EVERYHTING in ubuntu is a module
[10:24] <stdin> rasto_: you don't use a "root" password, you use _yours_
[10:24] <rasto_> stdin: it doesnt work...
[10:24] <stdin> hitmanWilly: not everything
[10:24] <hitmanWilly> well, just about...
[10:24] <stdin> rasto_: it will work
[10:25] <stdin> rasto_: when you use sudo you use your uses password
[10:25] <rasto_> stdin: i put it in, but it says thats a wrong pass
[10:25] <Meowmixiscoo> I'm trying boot in safe graphics mode.
[10:25] <hitmanWilly> DexterF, or just rebuild the usb support module
[10:25] <stdin> rasto_: are you the 1st user setup on the system?
[10:25] <rasto_> stdin: yep
[10:25] <DexterF> hitmanWilly: well doesnt mean I have to build everything as a module.
[10:26] <DexterF> but where the heck is .config?!
[10:26] <uga> Anarch: it's an interface to xrandr (rotate and resize)
[10:26] <stdin> rasto_: and does the command "id -u" show "1000" ?
[10:26] <uga> you can resize and rotate the monitor with it
[10:26] <hitmanWilly> DexterF, the source code, therefore .config, isn't installed by default on a buntu system
[10:26] <uga> well, the image, not the monitor ;)
[10:26] <rasto_> stdin: yep
[10:26] <DexterF> hitmanWilly: source package is installed. gabe me a tarball. no .config in there tho
[10:26] <DexterF> *gave
[10:27] <Meowmixiscoo> HA! I think it's going to work.
[10:27] <Meowmixiscoo> 5 points!
[10:27] <hitmanWilly> DexterF, can't remember of the top of my head how buntu handles that
[10:27] <Meowmixiscoo> Even better, my Razer Diamond back is working without having to install drivers.
[10:27] <stdin> rasto_: ok, what about this. does "groups | grep admin" show a list ?
[10:28] <Prophezy> Hi all
[10:28] <hitmanWilly> DexterF, the whole point i rebuilt my buntu kernel in the first place was to get rid of the init img so i just used a vanilla kernel and went from the ground up
[10:29] <DexterF> hitmanWilly: well, ok, that's pretty much what I have in mind
[10:29] <bigleon> Hitmanwilly I just bought some new CD-RW's hopefully i can burn a cd of 7.04 that will work so i can do a clean and nice install
[10:29] <rasto_> stdin: rasto adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev scanner netdev lpadmin powerdev admin
[10:29] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, and make a seperate /home this time :)
[10:29] <soulrider_> !schedule
[10:29] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[10:29] <Prophezy> I use Kubuntu & wonder if i can install windows xp on the same computer?
[10:29] <bigleon> hitmanWilly, It takes me like 10 minutes to reinstall 6.06 sooo lol
[10:29] <hitmanWilly> bigleon, that way you can just clean install every update and save yourself a lot of hassle
[10:30] <DexterF> hitmanWilly: d'oh! /boot
[10:30] <stdin> rasto_: then sudo will work, make sure you put the password in right. the same one you login with
[10:30] <bigleon> Ohhhh
[10:30] <bigleon> gotcha
[10:30] <bigleon> how do i do that though hitman?
[10:30] <hitmanWilly> DexterF, since when is .config kept in /boot?
[10:30] <DexterF> hitmanWilly: ask the #ubuntu-kernel guys
[10:30] <rasto_> ok so i hafta type in su - and then the pass i use for the login?
[10:31] <hitmanWilly> DexterF, weird, like i said, buntu has its own way of doing things
[10:31] <stdin> hitmanWilly: the config-$(uname -r) file is
[10:31] <rasto_> stdin: ok so i hafta type in su - and then the pass i use for the login?
[10:31] <stdin> rasto_: no, like I said, use sudo, no su
[10:31] <hitmanWilly> stdin, i think he's talking about the one generated by make menuconfig
[10:32] <tro> what governs the ctrl+alt+f1 behaviour? somehow i lost the ability to switch to a console. but it works if i log out of kde
[10:32] <stdin>  ahh, well that should/needs to be in the source dir
[10:32] <stdin> rasto_: see this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[10:32] <hitmanWilly> that's what i thought, too
[10:32] <rasto_> stdin: sorry but this are my first hours on linux, u gotta tell me what to type in coz i still dont have an idea what r we talking about here ;)
[10:32] <Cyc> I'm getting an "Error opening/initilalizing the selected video_out (-vo) device" when i try to play anything with mplayer, anyone can help with this?
[10:32] <BluesKaj> Prophezy, you can install windows on a separate partion, but preferably located as the first logical disk partrion , then the linux ext3
[10:33] <MeTa> Do i need high resolution timer support in my kernel?
[10:33] <MeTa> what is that exactly?
[10:33] <MeTa> It's a notebook.
[10:33] <stdin> rasto_: read that link, follow the instructions for "Ubuntu 6.10 and earlier"
[10:34] <rasto_> stdin: tnx a lot
[10:34] <rasto_> bye guys
[10:34] <Prophezy> BluesKaj : you mean i install first windows on the first partion and make the second partition for ext3?
[10:35] <BluesKaj> Prophezy, yes , and after the ext3 , your linux swap
[10:36] <Prophezy> BluesKaj: Thanks for the help :)
[10:37] <Meowmixiscoo> For a command line reliant OS, this has a really attractive GUI.
[10:37] <BluesKaj> Prophezy, do you have a partition editor like GParted ?
[10:37] <tro> MeTa: i think the HRTS is a good idea in general. I know VMWare will have time issues without it
[10:37] <kdehl> Hi you all, I can't install scim-chinese, this is what I get. Sorry for the strange language, but I think the point gets through: http://pastebin.ca/695183
[10:38] <kdehl> I also have a horrible lag...
[10:39] <kdehl> Sorry for that, if I don't answer until in a few minutes.
[10:39] <Prophezy> BluesKaj: yes i have GParted, but i think i will reinstall everything, and install windows first then Linux. Becauce our booking system only works in windows :(
[10:39] <agentk> ho
[10:39] <rasto_> stdin: im an asshole, i closed the page by mistake, can u paste it once more pls?
[10:39] <kdehl> And I can restart acpi manually without any problem, /var/log/messages says: torsk kernel: [1947449.244000]  Using specific hotkey driver
[10:40] <waylandbill_> Prophezy: possibly could work under wine
[10:40] <stdin> rasto_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[10:40] <rasto_> haha :D tnx
[10:40] <BluesKaj> Prophezy, good choice , since it's always wiser to install windows first, then linux , due to the grub setup...good luck :)
[10:40] <stdin> !se | kdehl
[10:40] <ubotu> kdehl: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[10:41] <kdehl> Oh. Thank you.
[10:41] <Prophezy> waylandbill: i tried don work :( the support said they will develop one for linux.. but NOT NOW :(
[10:42] <Prophezy> BluesKaj: Thanks bro... and thanks again for the help :)
[10:42] <Kein> Alright, back.
[10:42] <BluesKaj> Prophezy, NP :)
[10:42] <Kein> How would I generate a asound.conf file?
[10:42] <Prophezy> Have fun .. see you again soon :)
[10:42] <Prophezy> bye
[10:42] <Prophezy> all
[10:42] <BluesKaj> bye
[10:43] <Meowmixiscoo> OMG YES!!! Windows kept telling me that I had no ethernet connection on my computer, but Kubuntu is having no issues with it!
[10:43] <BluesKaj> kein , it should already exist as a bin
[10:44] <Bearcat> hey folks. I'm tying to figure out what is overheating on a laptop.   Looking at kde system guard i see a TZ01 and a TZ02. Is there a way to idendity what the zone represent (cpu or nothrbirdge or other)?
[10:44] <Kein> You sure?
[10:44] <Kein> Where would it be?
[10:44] <bigleon> congrats meowmixiscoo?
[10:45] <Meowmixiscoo> Thank you bigleon =] . Today is a VERY happy day for me.
[10:45] <frojnd> What plugin do I have to install for firefox to play this game: http://igre.imperij-zabave.si/igre-hudsk8.php ???
[10:45] <bigleon> Meowmixiscoo this is day 5 of trying to get kubuntu to work on my E1705
[10:45] <Meowmixiscoo> =[ Ick.
[10:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> frojnd: lemme take a quick looksee
[10:45] <bigleon> firefox should tell you which one yoru missing Frojnd
[10:46] <Daisuke_Laptop> shockwave (macromedia director)
[10:46] <frojnd> Daisuke_Laptop, thanx
[10:46] <Daisuke_Laptop> shame on the author for tying a web app to one particular OS.
[10:46] <Daisuke_Laptop> yes, that means you can't play it.
[10:46] <DexterF> deb I get with install -d go where?
[10:46] <frojnd> Daisuke_Laptop, I can't play it at all ?
[10:46] <WaltzingAlong> DexterF: /var/cache/apt/archives
[10:47] <Kein> Can't find any bin files...
[10:47] <DexterF> thanks
[10:47] <Kein> Wait.
[10:47] <Daisuke_Laptop> i should qualify that and say "to my knowledge"
[10:47] <BluesKaj> Kein , /usr/bin/asoundconf , notice there not dot after "asound"
[10:48] <Daisuke_Laptop>  Shockwave Player Download Center
[10:48] <Daisuke_Laptop> We are unable to locate a Web player that matches your platform and browser.
[10:48] <Daisuke_Laptop> lovely
[10:48] <bigleon> Bummer
[10:48] <stdin> frojnd: only way to play shockwave is to run firefox in wine
[10:48] <WaltzingAlong> bigleon: just think, two more days then it works
[10:48] <Daisuke_Laptop> probably the tenth of never.
[10:48] <bigleon> WaltzingAlong, pfft kubuntu is hating on me majorrrrrrrrly
[10:48] <frojnd> stdin, Ah I see.... fuc** one way sites...
[10:49] <bigleon> But hopefully after buying these new Rw's i can get a nice error free copy of 7.04 to attempt to install
[10:49] <WaltzingAlong> bigleon: any progress over the last few days? other window managers and desktops work?
[10:49] <Daisuke_Laptop> bigleon: just think, if it takes much longer you can get gutsy :)
[10:49] <Kein> Alright, found it.
[10:49] <bigleon> thanks alot Daisuke
[10:49] <Daisuke_Laptop> (which is quite lovely by the way)
[10:49] <bigleon> Well Once i get mylaptop running stable 7.04
[10:50] <bigleon> i'll get my Desktop running gutsy
[10:50] <Daisuke_Laptop> sorry, when life hands me lemons, i wonder how an anthropomorphic personification acquired lemons to begin with, but then i make lemonade.
[10:50] <Kein> What would I do now?
[10:50] <Daisuke_Laptop> had a bad day with feisty on my fiancee's laptop today
[10:50] <bigleon> life hands me vodka... and then i wake up  8 hours later not remebering what i've done in a while
[10:51] <runlevelten> I'm not sure hands imply anthropomorphism to be honest. I mean look at octopusses.
[10:51] <utente> ehi
[10:51] <Daisuke_Laptop> runlevelten: but life isn't a person, animal, or other tangible being.
[10:51] <bigleon> so check this out my 7.04 disk burned Error free
[10:51] <bigleon> I will see you guys later
[10:51] <bigleon> wish me luck :D
[10:51] <WaltzingAlong> laters!
[10:51] <Daisuke_Laptop> therefor life handing one something implies anthropomorphic personification :)
[10:52] <WaltzingAlong> luck is for the unstable we have gnu/linux here
[10:52] <Daisuke_Laptop> she was writing a paper in OOo 2.2, and the entire system froze on her.  she says it's been doing it occasionally in windows as well, so i'm thinking there's potentially a heat problem, as it does run a little hot (like can't use it on your lap hot)
[10:52] <Daisuke_Laptop> (going back to my fiancee's bad day with feisty)
[10:53] <BluesKaj> Kein, you're gonna need permission to edit the file, if you are adding commands to it  .. alt+F2 then in the runbox:  kdesu kate /usr/bin.asoundconf
[10:53] <Daisuke_Laptop> ...he'll be back in a few days
[10:54] <BluesKaj> oops Kein,  kdesu kate /usr/bin/asoundconf
[10:54] <Daisuke_Laptop> anyway, she says she's nearly ready to give up on her laptop completely and buy a new one
[10:54] <Daisuke_Laptop> (which means i get a new toy :D)
[10:55] <Daisuke_Laptop> turn it into a mythtv frontend, maybe >_>
[10:57] <Kein> Alright.
[10:57] <Kein> Should I toss you a pastebin of the console readout before doing anything?
[10:57] <Kein> I have no clue what to do here.
[10:58] <BluesKaj> mythtv Daisuke_Laptop...have fun configuring that monster :)
[10:58] <arash> you guys know how to activate the mousegestures/'draw' in konquerer?
[10:58] <BluesKaj> Kein, what commands did the tutorial ask you to add to the file ?
[10:59] <Daisuke_Laptop> BluesKaj: that's kinda what i want in concept at least
[10:59] <Daisuke_Laptop> might do linux media center
[10:59] <Daisuke_Laptop> because i pretty much just need to stream video (i have a lot of it) from the pc in the bedroom out to the living room
[11:01] <BluesKaj> Daisuke_Laptop, if ya want tv on yer pc then tvtime is great...medialinux uses parts of mythtv but it's been updated and is easier to install for running a media center than the older style mythtv
[11:01] <Daisuke_Laptop> ooh, thanks for the suggestions :)
[11:01] <Daisuke_Laptop> there is one little thing i'm wondering about.
[11:02] <Daisuke_Laptop> is an 802.11g wireless connection going to be enough to stream standard-definition video?
[11:02] <bigleon_> Ok Hello guys
[11:02] <stdin> Daisuke_Laptop: should be, I can stream DVD's with my wireless
[11:02] <Daisuke_Laptop> bigleon_: are things happy in linuxland?
[11:03] <Kein> Not sure, BluesKaj.
[11:03] <bigleon_> well
[11:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> stdin: thanks
[11:03] <bigleon_> my disk is perfect
[11:03] <Kein> See, it asked me to add a card
[11:03] <bigleon_> butttt
[11:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> but?
[11:03] <Kein> But there's only one card. =/
[11:03] <bigleon_> i'm getting this error bcm43xx: Error: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode.fw" not available or load failed
[11:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> it needs the firmware
[11:03] <bigleon_> Well
[11:03] <bigleon_> I can't exactly get firmware, off live cd
[11:04] <stdin> bigleon_: because you need the bcm43xx-fwcutter package
[11:04] <Daisuke_Laptop> true but
[11:04] <Daisuke_Laptop> stdin: if he can't get online, isn't that going to be difficult?
[11:04] <sea4ever> I'm beginning to like Linux.
[11:04] <stdin> yeah, that will
[11:04] <Daisuke_Laptop> sea4ever: it's not just for nerds anymore!
[11:04] <Daisuke_Laptop> what i'm going to suggest
[11:04] <Daisuke_Laptop> and this may sound crazy
[11:05] <sea4ever> Daisuke_Laptop : Yay! suggest away!
[11:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> is grab a thumbdrive and download it via http (or get someone here to get it for you for feisty)
[11:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> sea4ever: this is actually for bigleon
[11:05] <kirk> hey everyone
[11:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> and transfer it over and use dpkg -i
[11:05] <bigleon_> don't i have to install fiesty before i can start adding stuff?
[11:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> to install it :)
[11:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> it won't be permanent, but it should get you online *for now*
[11:06] <bigleon_> my eithernet on laptop is working fine
[11:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> oh.
[11:06] <bigleon_> but i can't even get my gui to load
[11:06] <bigleon_> so i can install it
[11:06] <kirk> i have a secondary hard drive hooked up, how can i  transfer files from there to here
[11:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> is this a new laptop?
[11:06] <bigleon_> got it back in april
[11:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> intel core 2 duo?
[11:07] <bigleon_> yup
[11:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> santa rosa mobile platform?
[11:07] <bigleon_> Inspiron E1705
[11:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> that's a giant yes
[11:07] <bigleon_> is that a bad thing?
[11:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> be right back, don't go anywhere :)
[11:08] <bigleon_> lol
[11:08] <kirk> how can i transfer files from a hard disk thats hooked up to my new kubuntu system
[11:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> in the meantime, just a suggestion again, check out gutsy tribe 5
[11:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> not to install, just to see if the livecd will boot properly, they're supposed to have this issue fixed (if the issue is what i think it is)
[11:08] <bigleon_> well i'll start the download for my Desktop
[11:09] <kirk> suggestions anyone?
[11:10] <BluesKaj> kirk, does the 2nd HDD show up in system menu/storage media ?
[11:10] <Kein> BluesKaj: http://pastebin.ca/696307
[11:10] <Kein> I know for a fact that it was running something else when I updated to Feisty first.
[11:11] <kirk> hmm it shows up with krusader
[11:11] <Kein> ...
[11:11] <Kein> wait.
[11:11] <Kein> That's what it -should- be running.
[11:11] <Kein> But it's running something by Realtek instead, despite it not showing up.
[11:11] <kirk> yes and also in disk and filesystems
[11:12] <bigleon_> i'm back dask
[11:12] <Daisuke_Laptop> i thought ALC was realtek
[11:12] <Daisuke_Laptop> k, bigleon_, you have an x1400, correct?
[11:13] <bigleon_> correctomondo
[11:14] <Anarch> My Intel 965 chipset seems not to be compatible with `sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel`; that *never* gives me legible video, and reverting xorg.conf from Driver "intel" to Driver "vesa" gets me back to where max resolution is 1024x768.  I know this monitor is capable of more.
[11:15] <Daisuke_Laptop> Anarch: enable feisty-backports in the repos, update, and upgrade xserver-xorg-video-intel
[11:16] <bigleon_> thats right dask
[11:16] <Anarch> Daisuke_Laptop: THANK YOU for the clue.  I will try that now.
[11:16] <BluesKaj> Kein, in the kosole type , lspci | grep audio
[11:16] <kirk> wtf why is this saying i dont permissions
[11:16] <BluesKaj> err konsole
[11:16] <kirk> have*
[11:16] <Daisuke_Laptop> Anarch: no problem, i was in the same boat with the 965 :)
[11:16] <Daisuke_Laptop> bigleon_: http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeonhd.html
[11:17] <vge> !sudo
[11:17] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:17] <vge> kirk: ^
[11:17] <Daisuke_Laptop> there have been reports of success using that driver.  it is NOT an elegant solution, however.
[11:17] <Kein> nothing happened.
[11:17] <bigleon_> Well
[11:18] <bigleon_> don't i need to install it before i can start adding drivers
[11:18] <kirk> i have another hard drive hooked up and just wanna get files off of it and put on here
[11:18] <kirk> or make the other hard drive available for storage
[11:18] <kirk> like master/slave ..
[11:18] <Daisuke_Laptop> in that case, i recommend the alternate cd
[11:19] <Anarch> Daisuke_Laptop: BTW, my experience has been with 2 old CRTs; I don't have a flat panel to compare with.  But I have older mobos driving the CRTs at 1280x1024.  Any reason to believe the backport won't handle this?
[11:19] <bigleon_> -.-
[11:19] <BluesKaj> Kein, ok type just' lspci ' and paste the output in pastebin like before
[11:19] <bigleon_> so there is no other way i can do it right now?
[11:19] <Daisuke_Laptop> bigleon_: unfortunately, i don't think so :\
[11:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> you can install the driver and restart x without restarting the live cd
[11:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> that may get you to a visible and usable state
[11:20] <bigleon_>  is there any way i can apt-get it?
[11:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> nope, it's not available in the repos yet
[11:20] <FireCrotch_> Running Gutsy, and I want to start my machine to a CLI instead of GUI.  I can't figure out how to do that with Upstart
[11:20] <bigleon_> ugggggggggggggggggggggggggg
[11:21] <sea4ever> ug?
[11:21] <sea4ever> gawk?
[11:21] <kirk> i have another hard drive hooked up and just wanna get files off of it and put on here, any advice????????
[11:22] <stdin> FireCrotch_: that's what recovery mode is...
[11:22] <FireCrotch_> stdin, I don't want single user mode, I want multiuser
[11:22] <bigleon_> how can i get it to my other machine?
[11:22] <stdin> FireCrotch_: or just do "sudo update-rc.d -f kdm remove" then
[11:22] <Daisuke_Laptop> well...
[11:22] <FireCrotch_> Thanks
[11:23] <Daisuke_Laptop> usb thumbdrive?
[11:23] <Kein> http://pastebin.ca/696353
[11:23] <Kein> There, BluesKaj
[11:25] <deviance> I just lost the entire contence of my phone. I diddnt safley remove, my phone thought it was corrupt and replace all the direcories, and now its not letting me safely remove becasue
[11:25] <deviance> Unmounting failed due to the following error:
[11:25] <deviance> Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[11:25] <deviance> Whoops, sorry.
[11:26] <deviance> It also sais getty and syslodg are still using it
[11:27] <deviance> Any ideas on how to disconnect it
[11:29] <DexterF> hitmanWilly: against all odd that gutsy kernel and gutsy libc6 work
[11:29] <knightz> what is the next version of k/ubuntu and where can i get it?
[11:29] <NickPresta> !gutsy | knightz
[11:29] <ubotu> knightz: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[11:30] <mauri_> i'm not able to configure my webcam
[11:30] <DexterF> knightz: I wouldn't really go gutsy. it's beta for a reason.
[11:30] <stdin> deviance: try "sudo eject /dev/sd?" where sd? is the device name
[11:30] <bigleon_> i'll be back heading out to dinner lately
[11:31] <stdin> DexterF: gutsy isn't in beta
[11:31] <DexterF> stdin: ?
[11:31] <stdin> it's still alpha :)
[11:31] <kirk> i really need some help with this..
[11:31] <DexterF> :P
[11:31] <stdin> beta is on 27th
[11:31] <DexterF> stdin: isn't it supposed to be released in october?
[11:31] <deviance> stdin: How do I find the device name
[11:31] <Daisuke_Laptop> however, that doesn't mean it isn't usable
[11:32] <Daisuke_Laptop> DexterF: that's comparable with feisty's release schedule
[11:32] <kirk> i have my secondary hard drive which i just used for storage hooked up, how can i make it accessible with kubuntu?
[11:32] <stdin> DexterF: yep, the target is October 18th
[11:32] <stdin> deviance: use the "mount" command to see
[11:32] <DexterF> wonder how stable that stable release is gonna be...
[11:32] <deviance> stdin: I dont know how to do that
[11:32] <DexterF> need to reboot, l8r
[11:33] <deviance> I think its hdc
[11:33] <saroset> Any idea how to install something from a disc using wine?
[11:33] <stdin> deviance: type "mount" and see what's mounted in /media
[11:33] <deviance> Its sda1
[11:33] <kirk> any ideas????
[11:33] <stdin> deviance: then "sudo eject /dev/sda"
[11:33] <ReALF> hi
[11:34] <deviance> Ok, that will be safe correct?
[11:34] <stdin> deviance: yep, that will sync and unmount it
[11:34] <deviance> Ok :D
[11:35] <deviance> Error: invalid device /media/disk (must be in /dev/)
[11:35] <deviance> eject: unmount of `/media/disk' failed
[11:35] <stdin> deviance: did you use /dev/sda ?
[11:36] <deviance> Yea
[11:36] <deviance> Then tried sda1
[11:36] <kirk> help?
[11:36] <kirk> !help
[11:36] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:36] <stdin> deviance: same error for both?
[11:36] <kirk> !harddrive
[11:36] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[11:36] <deviance> Yes
[11:37] <saroset> How do I access my cd/dvd drive?
[11:37] <kirk> !diskmounter
[11:37] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[11:37] <kirk> !fuse
[11:37] <ubotu> FUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) is a !kernel driver that allows non-root users to create their own filesystems. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE.  Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here:  http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems
[11:37] <deviance> Could I use sync
[11:38] <stdin> deviance: yeah, and hope :)
[11:38] <ReALF> how can i listen to mp3 using amaroK in kubuntu 7.04?
[11:38] <stdin> saroset: see the "computer" icon in the bottom left, click it, then click on "Storage Media"
[11:38] <saroset> stdin, Thank you!
[11:38] <deviance> I ran it sync: ignoring all arguments
[11:38] <stdin> ReALF: install the libxine1-ffmpeg package with adept
[11:39] <deviance> I did sudo sync de/sda is that right?
[11:39] <stdin> deviance: afaik, it's just "sudo sync"
[11:39] <deviance> Ah ok
[11:40] <saroset> Next question, how do I install a windows program from there using wine?
[11:40] <deviance> No monitor though
[11:40] <ReALF> stdin, thank you
[11:40] <bmac2> I have kubuntu installed on a computer I am using to run nagios to monitor the network and the hosts at the ski resort I work at
[11:40] <stdin> deviance: you can also try "alt-sysrq-s"
[11:40] <bmac2> I can NOT get it to run both the wired and the wireless network cards at the same time
[11:40] <bmac2> am I doing something wrong?
[11:40] <deviance> Score, I think its worked
[11:40] <deviance> Lemme unplug and see :D
[11:40] <bmac2> I need nagios to scan 47 wired hosts/switches
[11:40] <bmac2> and 15 wireless aps
[11:40] <bmac2> any ideas?
[11:41] <deviance> woot thanks stdin, youve saved my life once more
[11:41] <rustalot> I have a small (<5GB) partition which I use to move files back and forth between my kubuntu and my windows. How do I make it in the fstab so that /media/winshare/photos is writeable by my user?
[11:41] <rustalot> I tried sudo chown -R username /media/winshare/photos/
[11:41] <kirk> Not enabling experimental NTFS write support
[11:41] <kirk> Ignoring /dev/hdb1 - already in /etc/fstab
[11:41] <kirk> No usable windows/mac partitions found
[11:42] <kirk> im trying to make my second hard drive accessible... any ideas?
[11:42] <stdin> rustalot: use the options "fmask=111,dmask=000"
[11:42] <rustalot> stdin: in the fstab?
[11:43] <stdin> rustalot: yeah, like: /dev/hda3 /media/winshare vfat defaults,fmask=111,dmask=000 0 0
[11:43] <stdin> or something like it
[11:43] <notv> can someone help me fix the x server
[11:44] <stdin> kirk: it's in fstab, just do "mount /dev/sdb1"
[11:44] <rustalot> stdin: will mount -a refresh the options?
[11:44] <stdin> rustalot: yeah, though it may be better to umount it then mount it again
[11:45] <stdin> sometimes it works tho
[11:46] <bmac2> anyone running multiple network cards at the same time?
[11:46] <bmac2> or a wireless and another network card?
[11:47] <sven_oostenbrink> Hi there, I just installed compiz-fusion, and rebooted, but there is no window decoration.. How can I have compiz start some window decorator??
[11:47] <uga> stdin: and... kexec was _meant to_ work, right? =)
[11:48] <uga> if unloading the kernel and loading the new one into ram has to go through a reboot process, then it managed =)
[11:48] <uga> but it didn't boot the proper kernel :P
[11:48] <kirk> hmmm im lost, probably about to break something lol
[11:48] <stdin> uga: you need to set some kernel options I think, not sure
[11:49] <uga> heh
[11:51] <Kein> kmix is making me very, very irritable. -_-
[11:53] <mauri_> i'm not able to configure my webcam
[11:54] <rustalot> stdin: seems to work
[11:57] <kirk> ok.. i 'think' i have my other hard drive mounted, but now it says i dont have access rights
[11:58] <stdin> kirk: what's the fstab line?
[11:58] <kirk> fstab line?
[11:59] <stdin> the line in /etc/fstab that you use to mount it? or how are you mounting it?
[11:59] <kirk> it has...
[12:00] <kirk> -  /dev/hdb1
[12:00] <kirk> mount point /harddrive2
[12:00] <kirk> enabled
[12:00] <stdin> the whole line would help
[12:01] <kirk> - mount /dev/hdb1
[12:01] <stdin> that's not a valid fstab line
[12:02] <kirk> oh ok 1 sec i know what ur asking
[12:02] <kirk> UUID=82587b18-e704-4d5f-9a90-f8411e4710c7 none swap sw 0 0
[12:02] <kirk> /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 auto nouser,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
[12:02] <kirk> /dev/hdb1 /harddrive2 auto users,noauto,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
[12:03] <stdin> kirk: and what filesystem is it?
[12:03] <kirk> nfts i believe
[12:03] <kirk> or fat32
[12:04] <stdin> do you want to write to it too?
[12:04] <mauri_> i'm not able to configure my webcam
[12:04] <kirk> i used to use it for windows
[12:04] <stdin> !webcam
[12:04] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[12:04] <kirk> yes i would like to use it as extra storage
[12:04] <stdin> kirk: so it's mounted now ?
[12:04] <kirk> plus it has about 30 gigs of movies and music i would like to have access to
[12:05] <mauri_> stdin: may you halp me with my cam
[12:05] <kirk> im brand new to linux, just installed kubuntu last night
[12:05] <kirk> im not exactly sure
[12:05] <stdin> mauri_: I don't use one, so I can't really
[12:05] <stdin> kirk: post the output of "mount" to pastebin please
[12:05] <kirk> so forgive me for sounding so ignorant
[12:05] <stdin> !paste
[12:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:05] <genioh> hablan castellano ?
[12:06] <stdin> !es
[12:06] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:06] <mauri_> stdin: do you know someone that could be able to help me?
[12:06] <stdin> mauri_: you could try in #ubuntu
[12:07] <kirk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37355/
[12:07] <genioh> ok gracias =)
[12:07] <genioh> thx dude
[12:07] <WaltzingAlong> prego
[12:08] <stdin> kirk: so it's ntfs, and it's mounted to /harddrive2, can you show me what "ls -ld /harddrive2" shows, should only be one line
[12:08] <kirk> dr-x------ 1 root root 8192 2007-09-12 10:08 /harddrive2
[12:09] <stdin> ahh, I thought so
[12:09] <kirk> <-- lost
[12:09] <stdin> don't worry, I'll guide you :)
[12:09] <kirk> thanks!
[12:09] <mauri_> stdin: ok i will try..thanks
[12:10] <stdin> kirk: you want to be able to write to it, so you need to install the package called "ntfs-3g", the quickest way is to do "sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g"
[12:10] <stdin> kirk: let me know when that's done it's thing
[12:11] <kirk> done
[12:11] <stdin> ok, now you need to change that line in /etc/fstab
[12:11] <stdin> so press Alt-F2 and put in "kdesu kate /etc/fstab" to open it
[12:13] <kirk> im with ya
[12:13] <stdin> then change the line with /dev/hdb on it to: /dev/hdb1 /harddrive2 ntfs-3g users,noauto,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid,umask=0000 0 0
[12:13] <kirk> done
[12:14] <stdin> then all you should need to do is "umount /harddrive2" and "mount /harddrive2"
[12:14] <kirk> the last 0 is red and underlined (dont know if that matters)
[12:14] <stdin> it doesn't :)
[12:15] <stdin> or it shouldn't anyway
[12:15] <kirk> umount: harddrive2 is not mounted (according to mtab)
[12:16] <kirk> mount: can't find harddrive2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[12:16] <stdin> make sure you put the '/' at the beginning
[12:16] <kirk> ah
[12:16] <kirk> so mount /harddrive2  ?
[12:16] <stdin> yep
[12:18] <kirk> hmm so i should be able to go to /harddrive2 and see the contents of my secondard drive?
[12:18] <kirk> secondary*
[12:19] <stdin> yeah, try it
[12:20] <kirk> it went now, but it appears empty
[12:20] <kirk> no items no files no folders, it says
[12:21] <stdin> kirk: pastebin the output of "mount" again then
[12:22] <beatrixk> salve un aiuto su kubuntu per favore...a chi posso chiedere??
[12:22] <kirk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37360/
[12:22] <stdin> !it | beatrixk
[12:22] <ubotu> beatrixk: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:23] <beatrixk> ops sorry this is my first time on kubuntu
[12:23] <stdin> kirk: heh, that's because it's still not mounted, try "mount /dev/hdb1"
[12:23] <beatrixk> thanks
[12:23] <beatrixk> see you soon
[12:24] <kirk> ok did that
[12:24] <stdin> kirk: see if you can see the files now
[12:24] <kirk> still nothing
[12:25] <saroset> Is there some kind of built in firewall?
[12:25] <stdin> !firewall | saroset
[12:25] <ubotu> saroset: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[12:25] <saroset> Thank you =] 
[12:26] <stdin> kirk: is there any output from the command when you mount it?
[12:26] <kirk> no output at all
[12:27] <stdin> kirk: and do you see "/dev/sdb1" when you type "mount" ?
[12:27] <danny500> How do I changer the Splash screen?
[12:28] <danny500> change*
[12:28] <stdin> kde splash or boot splash ?
[12:28] <danny500> ok thanks
[12:28] <kirk> dont see it
[12:28] <danny500> what about the looks of the mouse?
[12:28] <stdin> danny500: that was a question, not an answer
[12:29] <BluesKaj> danny500, system settings/splash screen
[12:29] <danny500> kde splash
[12:29] <danny500> ok
[12:29] <stdin> kirk: hmm, ok, try "sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /harddrive2"
[12:29] <danny500> I don't have that
[12:29] <kirk> prompted me for password, maybe that did it
[12:30] <stdin> danny500: system settings > splash screen
[12:30] <kirk> now it says..
[12:30] <kirk> Unable to enter file:///harddrive2/. You do not have access rights to this location.
[12:30] <stdin> hmm
[12:30] <danny500> I don't have that
[12:31] <stdin> danny500: kcontrol > appearance and themes > splash screen   then
[12:31] <stdin> kirk: type "ls -ld /harddrive2" again and let me know what it says
[12:31] <danny500> don't have that either O_O
[12:31] <kirk> dr-x------ 1 root root 8192 2007-09-12 10:08 /harddrive2
[12:33] <stdin> kirk: show me the line you have in fstab again
[12:33] <stdin> danny500: you do have Kubuntu ?
[12:35] <danny500> Ubuntu but I never use the Ubuntu room because they never help me. Even If I sit there for hours repeating the question no one ever helps. So I always come here. Plus this is the room I was given when I installed konversation.
[12:36] <danny500> And the only difference between Kubuntu and Ubuntu is the desktop environment.
[12:36] <stdin> danny500: well Konversation is a KDE app, and installed by default on kubuntu, so it goes to #kubuntu, but you're asking a gnome issue
[12:36] <kirk>  /dev/hdb1 /harddrive2 ntfs-3g users,noauto,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid,umask=0000 0 0
[12:36] <danny500> same kernel
[12:37] <danny500> I think I figured it out though.
[12:37] <stdin> !away > metaway
[12:37] <BluesKaj> different desktop and spalshscreen danny500
[12:37] <jordo23> Does anyone have a HOWTO for VNC or TightVNC over Kubuntu?
[12:37] <danny500> lol. I used to be on here all the time way back when
[12:38] <danny500> last year
[12:38] <danny500> I remember you BluesKaj
[12:38] <Netkiller3714> there we go, Thats better.
[12:39] <stdin> kirk: try changing it to: /dev/hdb1 /harddrive2 ntfs-3g defaults,umask=000 0 0