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| norsetto | ScottK: ping | 02:20 |
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| TheMuso | norsetto: Sorry, I didn't read version numbers for hexter correctly, so I'll look at that shortly. | 02:20 |
| norsetto | TheMuso: sure | 02:21 |
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| norsetto | ScottK: the bloated thing doesn't build on my machine too, I think it needs at least 2 GB | 02:22 |
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| === RAOF is now around | ||
| RAOF | StevenK: Hi, I'm back. | 02:33 |
| RAOF | StevenK: Yes, democracyplayer can be removed from the archives. Miro superceds it. | 02:37 |
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| TheMuso | RAOF: What about a transitional package? | 02:38 |
| TheMuso | Or aern't we supporting that? | 02:38 |
| crimsun | Replaces: democracyplayer | 02:39 |
| crimsun | Provides: democracyplayer | 02:39 |
| TheMuso | ah ok | 02:39 |
| TheMuso | forgot about that. :p | 02:39 |
| RAOF | TheMuso: I'm all over it :) | 02:41 |
| RAOF | Also, hi crimsun :) | 02:41 |
| StevenK | RAOF: You'll file a Bug of Death? | 02:42 |
| RAOF | I'll look into how to do that, yes. | 02:42 |
| RAOF | Now that I'm back from Hobart, I'll me more active again. | 02:42 |
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| RAOF | StevenK: So, in short, the process is "File a bug asking for it to be removed, and subscribe archive-admin"? | 02:46 |
| StevenK | RAOF: Correct. | 02:49 |
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| RAOF | Bug Of Death filed. | 02:59 |
| StevenK | Nice. | 02:59 |
| StevenK | I won't bother fixing it against the new boost, then. :-) | 03:00 |
| RAOF | Oh, crap. New boost? | 03:01 |
| RAOF | Oh, geser's fixed miro against the new boost, right? | 03:01 |
| === StevenK nods. 1.34.1 | ||
| StevenK | Right. | 03:01 |
| StevenK | I'm about to upload 28 rebuilds. | 03:01 |
| RAOF | Hoooray for libboost! | 03:02 |
| StevenK | Yeah, well... | 03:02 |
| TheMuso | StevenK: ooo fun. | 03:03 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 03:13 |
| RAOF | Heya bddebian | 03:15 |
| bddebian | Hi RAOF | 03:15 |
| alex-weej_ | can some motu please rebuild vmware kernel modules please? they've been stuck on feisty kernel versions... | 03:17 |
| alex-weej_ | and vmware-player refuses to install on gutsy as a result | 03:18 |
| alex-weej_ | Depends: vmware-player-kernel-modules-2.6.20-15 but it is not installable | 03:19 |
| TheMuso | alex-weej_: I think the kernel team are responsible for that, as the kernel is a constantly moving target. | 03:21 |
| === StevenK pushes 28 uploads uphill to upload.u.c | ||
| bddebian | dang | 03:22 |
| === bddebian does nothing as usual | ||
| TheMuso | StevenK: Hopefully most of those aren't big. :) | 03:22 |
| alex-weej_ | VMware Build Team <vmware-builds@vmware.com> is marked as maintainer so hmmm | 03:23 |
| StevenK | TheMuso: They are all rebuilds, but some of them will take over an hour to build. | 03:23 |
| alex-weej_ | maybe they will release once Gutsy betas when the kernel versions calm down | 03:23 |
| TheMuso | StevenK: Well at least thats good for uploading. | 03:23 |
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| bddebian | What texlive packages replace tetex-bin and tetex-extra? | 04:04 |
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| ScottK | nixternal: New courier upstream release has your name on it. | 07:11 |
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| StevenK | What, it says "Vista"? :-P | 07:13 |
| ScottK | He made the mistake of touching courier last. | 07:14 |
| ScottK | It looks, based on a quick glance at the diff that the Debian maintainer has cleaned it up a bit. | 07:15 |
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| === ScottK is going to bed. | ||
| ScottK | Good night all (or StevenK which may well be all). | 07:18 |
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| StevenK | Heh | 07:22 |
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| asisak | Good morning! | 07:57 |
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| desertc | Greetings, Asisak. Good luck with the mastering of the universe today. | 08:03 |
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| asisak | Hmm. | 08:10 |
| asisak | How does REVU determine if a package is an upload or a new one? | 08:10 |
| superm1_ | morning asisak | 08:10 |
| asisak | I have seen new packages that has been advocated by only one person and marked with a heart and also a package that is an update one and not marked by a heart... | 08:10 |
| asisak | Hey superm1_ | 08:10 |
| superm1_ | asisak, perhaps does it query the archive? | 08:11 |
| superm1_ | to see if it exists there | 08:11 |
| asisak | Oh, sure. Maybe the package is still in the NEW queue. | 08:11 |
| asisak | I mean scolily. | 08:11 |
| asisak | What is an update package now. | 08:11 |
| superm1_ | scolily stilll hasn't cleared NEW? | 08:12 |
| asisak | On the other hand rutilt was a new one and it was marked by a heart after my 1st ack | 08:12 |
| superm1_ | that's one of the first ones i remember revuing :) | 08:12 |
| asisak | superm1_: I am not saying this. I am just wondering... | 08:12 |
| asisak | Where is the queue? | 08:12 |
| superm1_ | https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+queue | 08:12 |
| superm1_ | rutitlt is in there for binary it look | 08:12 |
| asisak | Thanks superm1_ | 08:12 |
| asisak | Yes. Now it is there. | 08:13 |
| superm1_ | well https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+queue | 08:13 |
| superm1_ | if your not beta | 08:13 |
| asisak | Scolily is out of here of course. | 08:13 |
| asisak | Then it is a REVU-bug. | 08:13 |
| === asisak is beta from yesterday on... :) | ||
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| asisak | superm1_: do you know what the new qtpfsgui upload brings? The debdiff seems to be perfectly empty... | 08:23 |
| superm1_ | asisak, its a change in the .orig.tar.gz i think | 08:24 |
| asisak | Should be in the debdiff, though. | 08:24 |
| superm1_ | it was related to licensing i believe too | 08:24 |
| superm1_ | well the .orig.tar.gz's have different sizes though | 08:24 |
| superm1_ | but your right | 08:24 |
| superm1_ | should still be in the debdiff | 08:24 |
| asisak | Can you check if it is empty for you as well? | 08:25 |
| superm1_ | my understanding was that it didn't clear the NEW queue due to a licensing issue, so a new package freeze exception was filed for it | 08:25 |
| superm1_ | sure give me a sec | 08:25 |
| superm1_ | asisak, the debdiff is identical, but the license is indeed different between the two .orig.tar.gz's | 08:27 |
| superm1_ | do a diff -urN across the two directories | 08:28 |
| === tonyyarusso is hoping more work will be done on processing the NEW queue soon | ||
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| asisak | But why is this omitted in the debdiff :( | 08:28 |
| superm1_ | i wonder if he accidently reverts the changes | 08:28 |
| superm1_ | in the .diff.tar.gz | 08:28 |
| asisak | This might be the case. | 08:28 |
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| superm1_ | hm well no the diff's are identical on the two | 08:30 |
| superm1_ | by gunzip'ing the two .diff.gz's | 08:31 |
| superm1_ | hm | 08:31 |
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| pwnguin | hmm. is ubuntu affected by US export laws? | 08:32 |
| StevenK | tonyyarusso: I find if I ask nicely, I can get stuff out of NEW. | 08:32 |
| tonyyarusso | StevenK: I wouldn't know who to ask - any suggestions? | 08:33 |
| tonyyarusso | pwnguin: depends where the developers reside - remember it's an "export" law | 08:33 |
| superm1_ | asisak, i figured it out | 08:34 |
| superm1_ | he updated the .orig.tar.gz | 08:34 |
| superm1_ | but didn't regenerate the dsc/diff.gz | 08:34 |
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| superm1_ | at least that is what it is looking like to me | 08:35 |
| asisak | superm1_: thanks, cool | 08:35 |
| TheMuso | Hey folks. | 08:36 |
| asisak | Hey TheMuso | 08:36 |
| tonyyarusso | OT: Any of you folks know of good Ubuntu/Linux-related podcasts? | 08:36 |
| superm1_ | hey TheMuso | 08:36 |
| pwnguin | tonyyarusso: so the servers are not in the US | 08:37 |
| superm1_ | asisak, er nvm i take that back. its still not showing up differently | 08:37 |
| pwnguin | tonyyarusso: apparently fingerprint verification may be subject to export laws =/ | 08:37 |
| tonyyarusso | pwnguin: not most of them anyway, and I'd think most people using the US ones are in it...? | 08:37 |
| pwnguin | the mirrors at least | 08:37 |
| pwnguin | but if you upload to say a ppa | 08:38 |
| StevenK | Then I suspect it is subject to *UK* export law. | 08:39 |
| StevenK | tonyyarusso: What do you want to get looked at? | 08:39 |
| tonyyarusso | StevenK: kompozer, still | 08:39 |
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| tonyyarusso | StevenK: (someone actually just sent an e-mail asking if it had been processed yet, after seeing the UVFe) | 08:39 |
| tonyyarusso | StevenK: Neil Wilson? | 08:40 |
| tonyyarusso | StevenK: ty :) | 08:41 |
| StevenK | Grrhm? | 08:41 |
| tonyyarusso | I'm omniscient | 08:42 |
| tonyyarusso | or in too many irc channels | 08:42 |
| StevenK | tonyyarusso: pitti, Mithrandir or seb128 are the best people to get to know for archive type things. :-) | 08:42 |
| tonyyarusso | StevenK: good to know | 08:42 |
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| TheMuso | ~799/c | 08:46 |
| TheMuso | argh | 08:46 |
| StevenK | Hrm. TheMuso is getting more unpredictable about running c | 08:49 |
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| TheMuso | StevenK: Its more to do with orca and unusual behavior if lag occurs. | 08:53 |
| === TheMuso thinks that a screen reader should be written in python. | ||
| TheMuso | s/should/shouldn't/ | 08:54 |
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| StevenK | TheMuso: It makes sense to me - it allows it to be very easily extended. | 09:00 |
| StevenK | TheMuso: Maybe the Orca guys need to refactor the reading code into a Python module written in C. | 09:01 |
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| StevenK | TheMuso: Although, is the problem in the *reading*, or the *speaking*? | 09:01 |
| TheMuso | StevenK: Haven't tried to work it out. | 09:04 |
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| TheMuso | Mind you, this is not on the most speedy machine I have, and on an arch that is not officially supported by Ubuntu. :) | 09:05 |
| dholbach | good morning | 09:05 |
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| jussi01 | morning dholbach! | 09:16 |
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| dholbach | hey jussi01 | 09:16 |
| siretart | ajmitch: I cannot remember disabling it. I therefore don't think I did :) | 09:16 |
| dholbach | morning doko | 09:16 |
| dholbach | hey siretart | 09:16 |
| siretart | morning folks! | 09:16 |
| siretart | hi dholbach! hi doko! | 09:16 |
| StevenK | TheMuso: Well, you could try refactoring one of those two parts into C, and trying it. :-0 | 09:18 |
| StevenK | s/:-0/:-)/ | 09:18 |
| TheMuso | heh | 09:20 |
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| asisak | Hey Hobbsee | 09:26 |
| asisak | See you later MOTUs et. al. | 09:26 |
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| sistpoty | hi folks | 12:42 |
| Hobbsee | hi sistpoty! | 12:42 |
| sistpoty | hi Hobbsee | 12:42 |
| dholbach | hey sistpoty | 12:44 |
| === dholbach hugs sistpoty | ||
| sistpoty | hi dholbach | 12:45 |
| === sistpoty hugs dholbach | ||
| sistpoty | oh, I should be careful, as I'm ill atm, not to spread my disease *g* | 12:45 |
| dholbach | sistpoty: you're not the only one... I know of doko and my girlfriend who are too coughing atm | 12:46 |
| sistpoty | :( | 12:46 |
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| jmg | ok thats weird | 01:13 |
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| jmg | just rebooted after an update and gdm is horked | 01:13 |
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| bluekuja | Whoopie, good morning | 01:59 |
| bluekuja | any progress on your work? | 01:59 |
| sistpoty | hi bluekuja | 01:59 |
| bluekuja | sistpoty, heya stefan! | 01:59 |
| bluekuja | :) | 01:59 |
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| bluekuja | sistpoty, everything ok? | 02:00 |
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| sistpoty | bluekuja: yes, apart from that I'm ill, everything's fine :) | 02:00 |
| ddaa | Hi, do you guys know if any effort was made to package http://peadrop.com/blog/2007/01/06/pretty-emacs/ based on the gutsy snapshot? | 02:00 |
| bluekuja | sistpoty, oh :) I hope you'll be ok again soon! | 02:00 |
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| Whoopie | bluekuja: morning. Please have a look at bug 109151 | 02:01 |
| Ubotu | Launchpad bug 109151 in uswsusp "no hibernate with uswsusp installed" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109151 | 02:01 |
| sistpoty | bluekuja: thanks... actually I'm almost recovered, so I guess I can go back to work tomorrow | 02:01 |
| bluekuja | sistpoty, Is persia disappeared? | 02:01 |
| StevenK | crimsun: Hey, are you around? | 02:01 |
| bluekuja | Whoopie, heya | 02:01 |
| sistpoty | bluekuja: no idea... haven't been much around on irc recently | 02:02 |
| bluekuja | checking | 02:02 |
| Whoopie | bluekuja: uswsusp needs more love then just fixing the merge. | 02:02 |
| bluekuja | Whoopie, I dont use that package | 02:02 |
| StevenK | By us, or the Debian guy? | 02:02 |
| bluekuja | and it would be nice to have you on ity | 02:02 |
| ScottK | bluekuja: persia has been pretty tied up with work the last month or so. He still reads e-mail if you need something. | 02:02 |
| bluekuja | ScottK, oh thanks! | 02:03 |
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| bluekuja | Whoopie, gonna test the debdiff right now | 02:04 |
| bluekuja | Whoopie, the desc is not really good | 02:04 |
| bluekuja | just write re-adding usplash support | 02:04 |
| Whoopie | bluekuja: ok | 02:05 |
| bluekuja | anyway I need someone to test it | 02:05 |
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| bluekuja | somewhere | 02:05 |
| bluekuja | to confirm it works | 02:05 |
| bluekuja | anyway I'm grabbing everything atm | 02:05 |
| Whoopie | sure, hopefully, I'll find some time on the weekend. | 02:05 |
| bluekuja | Whoopie, do you want to take of that package? | 02:06 |
| bluekuja | *care | 02:06 |
| bluekuja | e.g testing, bug fixing et all? | 02:06 |
| Whoopie | bluekuja: normally, I use suspend2 for hibernate, but I wanted to test an alternative and found this issue. I have no clue about the procedure for revu, etc. | 02:09 |
| bluekuja | Whoopie, actually that's not a problem | 02:09 |
| bluekuja | Whoopie, you dont need revu for that anyway | 02:09 |
| bluekuja | just subscribe to all bugs uswusp related | 02:09 |
| bluekuja | and try to help us out | 02:10 |
| bluekuja | Whoopie, please delete tmp stuff | 02:10 |
| bluekuja | It's not nice for a debdiff | 02:10 |
| bluekuja | ;) | 02:10 |
| Whoopie | bluekuja: I did that debdiff with "debdiff". that's what it produced. | 02:13 |
| bluekuja | Whoopie, I know. But as I said it's not nice to have it | 02:13 |
| bluekuja | you can easily delete it manually | 02:13 |
| bluekuja | don't worry | 02:13 |
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| Whoopie | ok | 02:13 |
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| Whoopie | bluekuja: what I don't understand why uswsusp doesn't depend automaticly on libusplash0. | 02:14 |
| bluekuja | Whoopie, what do you mean with automatically? | 02:14 |
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| Whoopie | bluekuja: why doesn't dh_shlibdeps generate the dependency? | 02:16 |
| bluekuja | Whoopie, oh, that's better | 02:17 |
| bluekuja | :) | 02:17 |
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| bluekuja | Whoopie, is it libsplashy1? | 02:18 |
| bluekuja | debian has it | 02:18 |
| Whoopie | bluefoxicy: libusplash0 | 02:19 |
| Whoopie | s/bluefoxicy/bluekuja | 02:19 |
| bluekuja | Whoopie, I dont know then | 02:19 |
| bluekuja | Whoopie, you may ask to debian maintainer | 02:19 |
| bluekuja | to have some clarifications | 02:19 |
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| fernando | moin all | 02:54 |
| geser | Hi fernando | 02:54 |
| jwendell | hey, fernando! | 02:54 |
| fernando | hi geser, jwendell | 02:54 |
| jwendell | fernando, did you see dholbach's comment? | 02:55 |
| fernando | jwendell, let me see | 02:55 |
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| dholbach | hey jwendell, hey fernando, hey geser | 02:55 |
| dholbach | how's it going guys? | 02:55 |
| jwendell | hi, dholbach! | 02:56 |
| fernando | dholbach, fine, thanks. and you? | 02:56 |
| norsetto | afternoon lads | 02:56 |
| dholbach | good good :-) | 02:56 |
| dholbach | heya norsetto | 02:56 |
| geser | Hi dholbach, norsetto | 02:56 |
| norsetto | geser: hey | 02:56 |
| === norsetto bows to the master | ||
| norsetto | sorry, the Master :-) | 02:57 |
| norsetto | scottK: Saw my message about eclipse? | 02:58 |
| ScottK | Yes I did. | 02:58 |
| ScottK | Thanks for trying. | 02:58 |
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| norsetto | ScottK: that thing is a killer :-( | 02:59 |
| zul | dholbach: can you have a look at that gimmie bug, I would patch it myself but im not sure https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gimmie/+bug/138948 | 02:59 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 138948 in gimmie "Gimmie crashes on startup" [Unknown,Confirmed] | 02:59 |
| ScottK | norsetto: Agreed. | 02:59 |
| fernando | dholbach, on #134560, this fixes are to gtk-vnc or vinagre? or both? =) | 02:59 |
| dholbach | fernando: please file a separate bug for gtk-vnc and I'll add my list of notes to it | 03:00 |
| dholbach | zul: looking | 03:00 |
| fernando | dholbach, ok, great | 03:00 |
| norsetto | anyone need a test compilation for lpia ;-) ? | 03:00 |
| zul | dholbach: thanks | 03:00 |
| dholbach | zul: I wonder why Alex does not commit it to svn | 03:01 |
| ScottK | fernando: But please don't subscribe motu-uvf to it. | 03:01 |
| norsetto | ScottK: btw, solved my sound problem after the last kmix update | 03:01 |
| ScottK | norsetto: Great. | 03:01 |
| dholbach | zul: yeah, looks good to commit it afaics | 03:02 |
| zul | dholbach: ok ill do it tonight | 03:02 |
| dholbach | rock on | 03:02 |
| fernando | ScottK, ok, thanks | 03:03 |
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| DarkSun88 | Hi all | 03:04 |
| norsetto | hi darkie | 03:05 |
| DarkSun88 | Hi norsetto | 03:06 |
| fernando | dholbach, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/139371 | 03:08 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 139371 in ubuntu "[need-packaging] gtk-vnc" [Undecided,New] | 03:08 |
| fernando | fixing vinagre | 03:09 |
| zul | dholbach: screw it ive already uploaded the fix | 03:10 |
| dholbach | yoohoo | 03:10 |
| dholbach | fernando: updated, please bump back to fix committed once you've fixed those | 03:10 |
| geser | StevenK: I've seen you working on sfftobmp with the new boost. Is it ok if I upload a fixed package? | 03:10 |
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| === Hobbsee pokes jono | ||
| === sistpoty is off again | ||
| sistpoty | cya | 03:34 |
| === zul pokes Hobbsee | ||
| === Hobbsee pokes zul back | ||
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| huats | Hi all | 03:40 |
| === Hobbsee waves | ||
| huats | I have build in my ppa a new .deb that fixes #138167 | 03:42 |
| huats | do I also have to put the debdiff in a bug comment, or do I have to reference my ppa build in the bug ? | 03:42 |
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| Hobbsee | use a debdiff - easier to check | 03:44 |
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| huats | Hobbsee: o | 03:46 |
| huats | ok | 03:46 |
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| zul | Hobbsee: say jono's name 3 times and he will magically appear | 03:50 |
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| jono | Hobbsee: heading to a meeting, ping me in a few hours :) | 03:58 |
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| Hobbsee | jono: will be asleep then (or should be). feel free to ping me the next time you see me | 03:58 |
| jono | Hobbsee: ok | 03:58 |
| jono | Hobbsee: or mail me :) | 03:58 |
| ScottK | \sh: Do you have a moment? | 04:01 |
| \sh | if you give me 5 mins for a cigarette...sure... | 04:03 |
| ScottK | \sh: OK. Let me know when you are back. Thaks. | 04:03 |
| ScottK | Thanks even | 04:03 |
| ScottK | dholbach: Would you please upload Bug #128262 again. UVFe is now approved. | 04:11 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 128262 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] sqlite-ruby" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128262 | 04:11 |
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| dholbach | ScottK: sure | 04:12 |
| ScottK | Great. | 04:12 |
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| dholbach | ScottK: done | 04:13 |
| ScottK | Cool. | 04:13 |
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| ScottK | dholbach: For ppaput, who does it subscribe to the bug? | 04:16 |
| dholbach | ubuntu-universe-sponsors or ubuntu-main-sponsors | 04:18 |
| Hobbsee | oh, ick, so u-u-s is also sponsoring new packages. fun | 04:18 |
| dholbach | there's no --uvf mode yet | 04:18 |
| \sh | ScottK, sorry...I needed to walk to our security datacenter...across our area here :) | 04:18 |
| dholbach | Hobbsee: no | 04:18 |
| dholbach | Hobbsee: only if a package is in universe or multiverse already | 04:19 |
| Hobbsee | oh right | 04:19 |
| \sh | ScottK, how can I help you? | 04:19 |
| ScottK | I noticed you said you used to work for Red Hat the other day. | 04:20 |
| \sh | ScottK, yep | 04:20 |
| ScottK | I work on another open source project where I'm the Postfix/Debian guy. | 04:20 |
| ScottK | Our Sendmail/RPM guy is unfamiliar with how you get packages updated in Fedora. | 04:21 |
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| StevenK | ScottK: It's much harder than Ubuntu | 04:21 |
| StevenK | And Fedora is maintained entirely in CVS. Crazy. | 04:22 |
| ScottK | I was wondering if you were 1. Up on that process and 2. Willing to show someone how to navigate the waters (he knows RPM Packaging). | 04:22 |
| ScottK | The guy is pretty good with CVS too, so that'll work. | 04:22 |
| \sh | ScottK, in 2001 there were no fedora...and right now I don't even know the process...but you could ask on #fedora ;) | 04:22 |
| ScottK | \sh: OK. Thanks. | 04:23 |
| ScottK | I didn't know how long ago it was. | 04:23 |
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| zul | ScottK: gentoo uses cvs as well | 04:24 |
| StevenK | ScottK: They don't hand out CVS access without you being vouched for. The process is a bit interesting. | 04:25 |
| StevenK | I'm working from memory, and it's a little hazy | 04:25 |
| ScottK | OK. | 04:25 |
| StevenK | I can STFW, if you wish | 04:25 |
| ScottK | I could do that too. | 04:25 |
| ScottK | Thanks though. | 04:25 |
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| StevenK | Mind going through it when you see it? | 04:26 |
| StevenK | It's long and arduous, if I recall correctly | 04:26 |
| ScottK | You say that and are a DD, so I'm scared. | 04:27 |
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| Seveas | ScottK, lol | 04:27 |
| ScottK | If I find something good, I'll point it out to you. | 04:27 |
| StevenK | ScottK: Contributing to Debian is simple, so is Ubuntu. Contributing to Fedora is *hard* | 04:27 |
| zul | uh depends on what you want to contribute to ubuntu ;) | 04:28 |
| \sh | ScottK, ping spot on #fedora...he is a long standing redhat employee...I wonder if he can help you | 04:28 |
| ScottK | \sh: Thanks. | 04:28 |
| StevenK | zul: Well, if you're okay if debian packaging, u-u-s makes uploading to Ubuntu simple | 04:29 |
| zul | im talking other than packaging though ;) | 04:29 |
| === \sh met some netfilter guys yesterday in karlsruhe.... | ||
| \sh | they had a meeting here in karlsruhe, at astaro...and were drinking in the same pub... | 04:30 |
| norsetto | soren: about bug 139381, I can see you will have no career in marketing :-) | 04:32 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 139381 in gimmie "Please change package description" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139381 | 04:32 |
| soren | norsetto: I sincerely hope you're right :) | 04:33 |
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| DktrKranz | superm1, around? | 04:34 |
| superm1_ | well he's not, but his ghost superm1_ is :) | 04:34 |
| superm1_ | what's up? | 04:35 |
| DktrKranz | hehe | 04:35 |
| DktrKranz | it concerns https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/SRU | 04:35 |
| DktrKranz | pitti clarified that XSBC-Original-Maintainer should be set only for Feisty and newer | 04:35 |
| superm1_ | yes i've heard that as well too | 04:36 |
| DktrKranz | is it worth to add this to MOTU/SRU? | 04:36 |
| superm1_ | well likely no: changes like that wouldn't be going into an SRU, the idea for the SRU is minimal changes | 04:36 |
| superm1_ | to packaging and application | 04:36 |
| superm1_ | but perhaps something explaining that minimal changes should be done would be worthwhile | 04:37 |
| DktrKranz | it is required in latest releases, so I think it can be included into "minimal changes" category | 04:38 |
| huats | Does anybody can have a look at the debdiff of the bug #138167 ? before I susbscribe u-u-s ... | 04:38 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 138167 in gmail-notify "gmail-notify menu item tooltip is not HIG compliant" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138167 | 04:38 |
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| superm1_ | DktrKranz, well but you normally shouldn't be modifying the maintainer on older stuff | 04:39 |
| superm1_ | but i see your point | 04:39 |
| superm1_ | i'll add some information regarding it | 04:40 |
| DktrKranz | another question: should Examples session be integrated with some fixed bugs? | 04:40 |
| bddebian | Heya gang | 04:40 |
| DktrKranz | we have only one ATM concerning old procedure | 04:40 |
| superm1_ | yes i think it should. | 04:41 |
| superm1_ | ideally i wanted to do one that starts after the new process has been clarified | 04:41 |
| superm1_ | because i know the sru(s) that i've done have been a messy process and what pre-empted the clarifications | 04:42 |
| DktrKranz | good point | 04:42 |
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| superm1_ | there was one just filed i read on the motu mailing list | 04:42 |
| ScottK | For dapper/edgy to toolchain is untested with the maintainer mangled, so one must not mangle the maintainer. | 04:43 |
| superm1_ | so perhaps tracking how that turns out it will turn into a good example | 04:43 |
| DktrKranz | IIRC, there's only one point remaining: avoiding collisions with security updates | 04:43 |
| ScottK | for Feisty and later it's appropriate for an SRU. | 04:43 |
| norsetto | bddbian: Heya gangster | 04:43 |
| ScottK | DktrKranz: Did you see the example of that I gave on IRC just after the MOTU meeting? | 04:43 |
| superm1_ | DktrKranz, yea i have to add that yet | 04:44 |
| DktrKranz | ScottK: no sorry, it was 4 here, I went to sleep :) | 04:44 |
| norsetto | DktrKranz: wimpy ...... | 04:44 |
| DktrKranz | I'll get the log, where did you posted that? | 04:44 |
| superm1 | ubuntulog may have gotten that | 04:45 |
| superm1 | !logs | DktrKranz | 04:45 |
| ubotu | DktrKranz: Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs | 04:45 |
| ScottK | It was here. | 04:45 |
| ScottK | IIRC it was lighttpd. | 04:45 |
| DktrKranz | ok, I'm going to find it... | 04:45 |
| DktrKranz | hey norsetto, how about lpia chroot? | 04:45 |
| norsetto | DktrKranz: works a wonder, thanks :-) | 04:46 |
| DktrKranz | which URI did you use? | 04:46 |
| norsetto | DktrKranz: the one you gave me, ports | 04:46 |
| DktrKranz | tonight I'm going to help a user fixing lpia ftbfs, I need it :) | 04:46 |
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| DktrKranz | thanks | 04:46 |
| norsetto | DktrKranz: well, if you need mine just ask | 04:47 |
| DktrKranz | IIRC, it was just 10 minutes in downloading | 04:47 |
| DktrKranz | no problem, thanks anyway | 04:47 |
| DktrKranz | but if you were successful in creating ia64's... | 04:47 |
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| norsetto | DktrKranz: not even thinking considering trying .... | 04:48 |
| DktrKranz | :) | 04:48 |
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| huats | norsetto: hi | 04:51 |
| huats | norsetto: how are you ? | 04:51 |
| norsetto | huats: salut mon am | 04:52 |
| huats | norsetto: salut | 04:52 |
| norsetto | huats: pbuilding like a madman? | 04:52 |
| huats | norsetto: no... | 04:52 |
| norsetto | huats: ah | 04:52 |
| huats | norsetto: but I have a running gutsy righ now, which is a good thing for testing | 04:53 |
| norsetto | huats: btw, since you are in Toulouse, you are not involved in Aerobus or anything like that? Could be a good excuse to test flightgear... | 04:54 |
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| huats | norsetto: In fact I am not working for airbus | 04:55 |
| huats | but something like 70% of my company are... | 04:55 |
| slavik | would building a kernel module from a source package be offtopic for this channel? | 04:55 |
| dholbach | PPA and Ubuntu Packaging 101 in #launchpad in 4 minutes | 04:56 |
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| slavik | in any case, I have troubles building the kernel module for iscsitarget ... I get an error about the kernel headers | 04:57 |
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| huats | norsetto: can you have a look at the bug #138167 ? I have put a debdiff in it, and I like someone to see it before subscribing u-u-s | 04:57 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 138167 in gmail-notify "gmail-notify menu item tooltip is not HIG compliant" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138167 | 04:57 |
| huats | dholbach: thanks for being a living notifier :-) | 04:58 |
| dholbach | :-) | 04:58 |
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| ScottK | Speaking of PPA, I got some feedback on my PPA terms of service bug that they're looking into changes, so maybe that'll change for the better. | 05:01 |
| norsetto | huats: you should remove the ~ppa from the changelog and perhaps the universe/ in control | 05:01 |
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| norsetto | huats: and since you are already changing the .desktop file, make it freedesktop.org v1.0 compliant too | 05:02 |
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| huats | regarding the universe thing, may be we can ask more in the ppa 101 right nwo, but I've been told by mrevell that this will be removed automaticly | 05:03 |
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| slavik | I am trying to build a module that fails saying there is no usable kernel source | 05:36 |
| DktrKranz | slavik: could you please paste your error log in pastebin.ubuntu.com? | 05:38 |
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| ScottK | cool. bug #139409 - miro bugs already. | 05:47 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 139409 in miro "Cannot download movies using miro" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139409 | 05:47 |
| Hobbsee | mmm...crack | 05:48 |
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| gnomefreak | use something else ;) | 05:49 |
| zul | Hobbsee: fix it then ;) | 05:49 |
| StevenK | Whatcho talking about Willis? Miro has no bugs! | 05:49 |
| zul | that...is...so...old ;) | 05:49 |
| ScottK | It's got at least one ^^^ | 05:49 |
| gnomefreak | bug sthat old are features | 05:50 |
| slavik | DktrKranz: sure | 05:50 |
| gnomefreak | although that doesnt seem that old | 05:50 |
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| LaserJock | dholbach: ping | 05:51 |
| slavik | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/169/ | 05:51 |
| bluefoxicy | crud. | 05:52 |
| slavik | the headers are isntalled, but the sources are for dapper I think ... | 05:52 |
| dholbach | LaserJock: pong | 05:52 |
| LaserJock | dholbach: I can't find my pbuilder-dist scrip in ubuntu-dev-tools | 05:52 |
| dholbach | LaserJock: which version of it do you have installeD? | 05:53 |
| dholbach | it should be | 05:53 |
| slavik | DktrKranz: I pasted (a bit above) | 05:53 |
| LaserJock | I'm looking at bzr | 05:53 |
| dholbach | LaserJock: I'm on top of trunk and still have it in ./ | 05:53 |
| DktrKranz | slavik: did you try to follow the suggestion given? apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.20-16-generic | 05:54 |
| DktrKranz | do you get the same results? | 05:54 |
| slavik | they are isntalled ... | 05:54 |
| LaserJock | dholbach: grr, I'll rebranch and see if that does it | 05:54 |
| slavik | and latest version | 05:55 |
| DktrKranz | open a console, cd /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/build and launch sudo make scripts/ | 05:55 |
| slavik | reinstall? | 05:55 |
| DktrKranz | let's see what happens | 05:55 |
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| DktrKranz | probably you'll have to launch sudo make oldconfig first... | 05:56 |
| slavik | no errors | 05:56 |
| LaserJock | dholbach: ok, got it now, shouldn't a bzr pull do that? | 05:56 |
| slavik | it's building :) | 05:56 |
| slavik | what exactly happened here? | 05:56 |
| dholbach | LaserJock: yeah, it's what I use all the time | 05:56 |
| LaserJock | dholbach: :(, I was missing a lot of stuff | 05:57 |
| dholbach | weird | 05:57 |
| dholbach | maybe you were on the wrong branch? | 05:57 |
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| dholbach | maybe an old one? | 05:57 |
| DktrKranz | slavik: sometimes some headers and files are required to build a kernel module | 05:57 |
| DktrKranz | that command creates them | 05:57 |
| slavik | gotcha ... | 05:57 |
| DktrKranz | enjoy :) | 05:57 |
| slavik | hmm, appears to be a problem with their code | 05:58 |
| slavik | FATAL: Error inserting iscsi_trgt (/lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/drivers/iscsi/iscsi_trgt.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) | 05:58 |
| DktrKranz | look at dmesg command output | 05:58 |
| DktrKranz | and paste it as above | 05:58 |
| slavik | I have a later version of the code (0.4.15, the one trying to get to work is 0.4.13 but it depends on stuff that isn't upto date in feisty | 05:58 |
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| LaserJock | dholbach: I took the same url (got it from the output of bzr pull) rm -rf the dir and rebranched | 05:59 |
| dholbach | weird | 05:59 |
| dholbach | I didn't have that | 05:59 |
| slavik | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/170/ | 05:59 |
| slavik | guess it didn't link up properly | 05:59 |
| DktrKranz | it seems it misses a couple of modules | 06:00 |
| DktrKranz | modprobe should resolve them | 06:00 |
| DktrKranz | but you need to push that module in /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/misc and launching depmod | 06:01 |
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| slavik | nope | 06:03 |
| dholbach | see you tomorrow guys! | 06:04 |
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| DktrKranz | slavik: probably it is required for some modules to be compiled | 06:04 |
| LaserJock | dholbach: gone already? :-) | 06:04 |
| dholbach | yeah :-) | 06:04 |
| dholbach | need to look after my ill girlfriend :) | 06:05 |
| DktrKranz | I haven't kernel source here, I need to check which one are required | 06:05 |
| slavik | the crypto ones I assume | 06:05 |
| LaserJock | dholbach: my wife is sick, I sympathize | 06:05 |
| dholbach | yeah - people are coughing all over the place | 06:05 |
| dholbach | see you tomorrow | 06:05 |
| DktrKranz | yes, and someting related to fs | 06:05 |
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| huats | I have a problem wit my pbuilder | 06:07 |
| huats | I cannot tell him to add anything more than main... | 06:08 |
| huats | I've tried to add that to my .pbuilderrc file in the COMPONENTS but nothing changed | 06:09 |
| huats | does anybody can help me ? | 06:09 |
| DktrKranz | huats: did you used --override-config? | 06:11 |
| DktrKranz | *use | 06:11 |
| huats | nope | 06:12 |
| huats | that was the thing ! | 06:12 |
| huats | I completly forgot about that.. | 06:12 |
| DktrKranz | try to update the existing one specifying that option | 06:12 |
| huats | DktrKranz: I am currently doing that... | 06:14 |
| DktrKranz | cross your fingers, then :) | 06:15 |
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| proppy | oy | 06:18 |
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| siretart | dammit, the ppa 101 is already running for hours :/ | 06:20 |
| Hobbsee | an hour and 20 mins | 06:20 |
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| bddebian | Gawd illuminators configure check for petsc is just plain hosed | 06:22 |
| proppy | siretart: where does the ppa 101 takes place ? | 06:22 |
| DktrKranz | proppy: #launchpad | 06:23 |
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| geser | and is already over | 06:24 |
| proppy | DktrKranz: thanks | 06:24 |
| LaserJock | siretart: it'll all be on the irc logs and wiki | 06:30 |
| siretart | sure | 06:31 |
| LaserJock | siretart: got a minute to discuss the packaging guide | 06:32 |
| LaserJock | ? | 06:32 |
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| siretart | LaserJock: whats up | 06:33 |
| siretart | ? | 06:33 |
| LaserJock | well, I'm wondering if you disliked the idea of doing it on the wiki | 06:33 |
| StevenK | Personally, I like the idea of it on the wiki | 06:34 |
| siretart | LaserJock: honestly, I dont | 06:34 |
| siretart | like wikis too much | 06:34 |
| siretart | wikis are great for collecting opinions and gathering ideas for quick collaboration | 06:35 |
| siretart | we are talking here about a document, which needs to be revised by developers, who know whats how things are going | 06:35 |
| LaserJock | yes | 06:36 |
| LaserJock | but I've never really gotten any help from developers | 06:36 |
| siretart | so I think reviews of contributions are cruical. I don't see how a wiki helps with reviews | 06:36 |
| LaserJock | heck, mdz didn't even know it *existed* for over a year | 06:36 |
| siretart | LaserJock: as said, I wasn't even aware that we had in in a package like it is | 06:36 |
| siretart | right | 06:36 |
| siretart | I think one of the main problems was that it is managed in a svn on the ubuntu-doc team's server | 06:37 |
| bluekuja | heya LaserJock | 06:37 |
| bluekuja | siretart, StevenK :) | 06:37 |
| siretart | I've therefore suggested to extract it to an own sourcepackage and place the master branch in a ubuntu-dev's team branch | 06:37 |
| siretart | well, I don't feel like repeating my email on irc | 06:38 |
| siretart | too strong, at leat | 06:38 |
| bluekuja | LaserJock, I don't like a lot the idea of putting it on the wiki, sorry for not yet sending a mail | 06:38 |
| bluekuja | :) | 06:38 |
| bluekuja | siretart, adding it on a team branch would be nice too | 06:39 |
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| LaserJock | hmm | 06:58 |
| LaserJock | I'm just not sure that moving it around is going to help get people to write | 06:58 |
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| LaserJock | if people don't want to do docbook or write in a book form then it's not really gonna work | 06:59 |
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| siretart | LaserJock: please consider all 3 of my points | 07:02 |
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| bluekuja | siretart, can you please update my account on REVU? | 07:05 |
| bluekuja | siretart, I get a No REVU account for bluekuja@ubuntu.com exists yet. | 07:07 |
| bluekuja | strange thing | 07:07 |
| bluekuja | it was registered with that mail | 07:07 |
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| bluekuja | Hobbsee, thanks | 07:08 |
| Hobbsee | bluekuja: what account were you using for REVU before? | 07:08 |
| bluekuja | Hobbsee, bluekuja@ubuntu.com | 07:08 |
| bluekuja | ^^ | 07:08 |
| Hobbsee | did you upload anything since REVU went down? | 07:08 |
| bluekuja | nope :/ | 07:08 |
| Hobbsee | that's why, then. | 07:09 |
| bluekuja | that's why | 07:09 |
| bluekuja | yup | 07:09 |
| bluekuja | can you do it manually? | 07:09 |
| Hobbsee | no, it seems to break. it'll let me set a password, but i twont actually store it or something | 07:09 |
| Hobbsee | just upload something, then you can practice archiving. | 07:09 |
| bluekuja | Hobbsee, ok | 07:10 |
| bluekuja | Hobbsee, gonna ping you when done | 07:10 |
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| bluekuja | Hobbsee, uploaded | 07:13 |
| bluekuja | Hobbsee, you should see it on incoming | 07:13 |
| Hobbsee | cterm? | 07:13 |
| bluekuja | ximp3 | 07:13 |
| === Hobbsee waits | ||
| bluekuja | :) | 07:14 |
| Hobbsee | bluekuja: OK, you should be able to recover your p/w | 07:15 |
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| bluekuja | Hobbsee, thanks | 07:15 |
| bluekuja | let me see | 07:15 |
| === Hobbsee can see it, and it's not "None", which is always a good start. | ||
| Hobbsee | having access to here is useful | 07:16 |
| Hobbsee | although it does make me want a large lightning bolt for people who *continue* to upload binaries to REVU | 07:16 |
| bluekuja | Hobbsee, another revu-key instance is already running | 07:16 |
| bluekuja | so cannot get pwd back | 07:16 |
| Hobbsee | bluekuja: wha? | 07:16 |
| bluekuja | another revu-key instance is already running | 07:17 |
| bluekuja | check /tmp/revu-key.pid and PID 23939 | 07:17 |
| bluekuja | is what I get | 07:17 |
| Hobbsee | oh, hm | 07:17 |
| Hobbsee | siretart: can you have a look at that? it hasnt killed /tmp/revu-key.pid, but the process no longer exists | 07:19 |
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| victor__ | Hobbsee: could you sync it(or whatever needs to be done) for victor@pseudocode.se as well? (uploaded cterm) | 07:27 |
| Hobbsee | victor__: no, sorry. been investigating that. i have no root over the machine, so we'll all have to wait for siretart | 07:27 |
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| victor__ | okay, thanks anyway :) | 07:28 |
| Hobbsee | siretart: FYI, revu1 group doesnt have access to pbuilder, either. | 07:29 |
| LaserJock | bluekuja: why don't you like the idea of the packaging guide on the wiki? | 07:32 |
| highvolt1ge | moo | 07:34 |
| === Hobbsee moo's back | ||
| highvolt1ge | moooooooooooooooooo | 07:37 |
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| bluekuja | LaserJock, mostly for the view | 07:44 |
| bluekuja | it was better organized on docbook | 07:45 |
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| Hobbsee | siretart: there you go, my first change to REVU. | 07:46 |
| bluekuja | ScottK, gonna upload soon sunbird-locales. Was working on it with asac | 07:47 |
| Hobbsee | siretart: i dont think it fully fixes the bug - i think youv'e still got permission problems...but it's a start : | 07:49 |
| Hobbsee | * :) | 07:49 |
| LaserJock | bluekuja: so basically wiki doesn't look as good? | 07:49 |
| bluekuja | LaserJock, yeah | 07:49 |
| bluekuja | LaserJock, it will be open to everyone? | 07:49 |
| bluekuja | or only someone will be granted to modify it? | 07:50 |
| LaserJock | everyone | 07:56 |
| LaserJock | it would be wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide | 07:56 |
| norsetto | scottK: what is required by motu-uvf for a new package to be synced from Debian? | 07:57 |
| bluekuja | LaserJock, do you think is ok to gave access to everyone? | 07:57 |
| bluekuja | to a page like that? | 07:57 |
| LaserJock | we give that access for all our policy pages | 07:58 |
| LaserJock | even Main policy pages | 07:58 |
| bluekuja | ok then | 07:58 |
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| bluekuja | LaserJock, branch idea was nice too | 07:58 |
| LaserJock | why? | 07:59 |
| LaserJock | I'm not quite sure why going from bzr->svn and ~ubuntu-doc to ~ubuntu-dev is going to suddenly make everything better | 07:59 |
| bluekuja | LaserJock, yeah, that's true too | 08:00 |
| bluekuja | moving it to bzr it just changing a small particular | 08:00 |
| bluekuja | not the organisation itself | 08:00 |
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| bluekuja | LaserJock, I'll think about it | 08:02 |
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| LaserJock | I'm not saying I'm against the idea really, I hadn't thought of that | 08:07 |
| LaserJock | but I'm not sure exactly if that'd solve the problem | 08:07 |
| bluekuja | yeah | 08:07 |
| bluekuja | same here | 08:07 |
| LaserJock | the packaging guide is the only Ubuntu developer documentation that's *not* on the wiki | 08:07 |
| bluekuja | yup | 08:08 |
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| siretart | woah, so many hilights | 08:31 |
| siretart | where to start? | 08:31 |
| bddebian | heh | 08:31 |
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| siretart | dammit, where has hobbsee gone? | 08:33 |
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| bluekuja | siretart, she gone to sleep | 08:35 |
| bluekuja | * Hobbsee looks at the time | 08:35 |
| bluekuja | * Hobbsee --> bed. | 08:35 |
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| siretart | hm. I see | 08:36 |
| proppy | hi | 08:36 |
| siretart | bluekuja: do you have an account now? | 08:36 |
| bluekuja | siretart, yup, I found out a problem | 08:36 |
| bluekuja | and reported to her | 08:36 |
| mdomsch | is there a way to keep a file installed under /etc from being considered a confffile automatically? | 08:36 |
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| mdomsch | e.g. /etc/kernel/{prerm,postinst}.d/* | 08:37 |
| bluekuja | another revu-key instance is already running | 08:37 |
| bluekuja | check /tmp/revu-key.pid and PID 23939 | 08:37 |
| bluekuja | was the problem, siretart | 08:37 |
| mdomsch | isn't really a conffile, it's a hook | 08:37 |
| zul | mdomsch: you might want to try #-devel | 08:38 |
| mdomsch | zul, will do thanks | 08:38 |
| bddebian | StevenK: You aboot? | 08:38 |
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| bddebian | Hmm, should we remove ieee80211 from Ubuntu? | 08:41 |
| proppy | could someone (ScottK?) take a look at bug #138836 and bug #137573, and tell me what I need to do for these changes to show up in gutsy ? | 08:41 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 138836 in poker-network "poker-network mysql installation issue" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138836 | 08:42 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 137573 in poker-network "poker2d crash (SIGSEGV) at startup" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137573 | 08:42 |
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| geser | bddebian: given that TZ="Australia/Sydney" date results in 5 am he should be still sleeping | 09:09 |
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| bddebian | pfft, sleeping is now allowed :-) | 09:09 |
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| huats_ | Hi | 10:52 |
| huats_ | I am fixing a bug on a .desktop file. So I decide to pass it through desktop-file-validate... | 10:53 |
| bluekuja | huats, hi | 10:54 |
| huats_ | te thing is that i complains about an Application category not defined. Actualy it has : "Application" | 10:54 |
| huats_ | and Network | 10:54 |
| bluekuja | Application category is deprecated | 10:54 |
| bluekuja | so delete | 10:54 |
| huats_ | that was my idea... | 10:54 |
| bluekuja | what does validate says? | 10:55 |
| huats_ | but I'd rather have a confirmation | 10:55 |
| bluekuja | (I hope you're using gutsy desktop-utils( | 10:55 |
| bluekuja | *) | 10:55 |
| huats_ | that Network alone is fine | 10:55 |
| huats_ | I am using the feisty version | 10:56 |
| huats_ | to validate | 10:56 |
| bluekuja | huats, bad :) | 10:56 |
| bluekuja | get gutsy one | 10:56 |
| bluekuja | and try again | 10:56 |
| bluekuja | and provide me the output | 10:56 |
| huats_ | ok I will right now... | 10:56 |
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| huats_ | just let the time to my vmware server to start | 10:57 |
| huats_ | :) | 10:57 |
| bluekuja | ok | 10:57 |
| bluekuja | :) | 10:57 |
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| huats_ | bluekuja: after the various modification I did there is no ouput | 11:00 |
| huats_ | so it is good right ? | 11:00 |
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| bluekuja | huats, if desktop-file-validate doesnt complain | 11:01 |
| bluekuja | it's ok | 11:01 |
| bluekuja | :) | 11:01 |
| huats_ | ok thanks | 11:01 |
| bluekuja | huats, btw what did you modify? | 11:01 |
| huats_ | Suppression of Encoding | 11:01 |
| Paddy_EIRE | are there any plans to put superswitcher in the repos http://code.google.com/p/superswitcher/ | 11:01 |
| huats_ | Removal of the .png on the icon | 11:01 |
| huats_ | the Category | 11:02 |
| huats_ | and the tooltip so that it is HIG Gnome compliant now (that was the bug) | 11:02 |
| bluekuja | huats, bug number? | 11:03 |
| huats_ | #138167 | 11:03 |
| bluekuja | Launchpad Bug #138167 | 11:04 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 138167 in gmail-notify "gmail-notify menu item tooltip is not HIG compliant" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138167 | 11:04 |
| ajmitch | Paddy_EIRE: only if someone is interested in packaging it, and only for hardy, not gutsy | 11:05 |
| bluekuja | huats, mmm | 11:06 |
| bluekuja | it was already uploaded? | 11:06 |
| huats_ | no | 11:06 |
| bluekuja | huats, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gmail-notify/+bug/138167/comments/2 | 11:06 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 138167 in gmail-notify "gmail-notify menu item tooltip is not HIG compliant" [Low,In progress] | 11:06 |
| huats_ | but I already provided a ppa... | 11:06 |
| huats_ | that was it seems uploaded... | 11:06 |
| bluekuja | huats, I see that | 11:07 |
| bluekuja | and some hours later | 11:07 |
| bluekuja | your debdiff | 11:07 |
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| bluekuja | :D | 11:07 |
| huats_ | yep | 11:07 |
| bluekuja | why? | 11:07 |
| huats_ | why ? because I've been told that it is easier ... to provide the debdiff | 11:08 |
| ScottK | proppy: Are ubuntu-universe-sponsors subscribed to the bugs? | 11:08 |
| bluekuja | huats, the debdiff is ok | 11:08 |
| bluekuja | huats, I just want to know why I see comment 2 | 11:08 |
| bluekuja | when you add LP: #BUG | 11:08 |
| Adri2000 | bluekuja: probably a soyuz bug | 11:09 |
| bluekuja | Adri2000, yeah, I guess so | 11:09 |
| Adri2000 | it shouldn't close the bug report when uploaded to a ppa | 11:09 |
| bluekuja | yeah | 11:09 |
| bluekuja | he pushed to ppa and closed it | 11:09 |
| bluekuja | not nice thing | 11:09 |
| bluekuja | it may confuse ppl | 11:09 |
| huats_ | bug #137767 | 11:09 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 137767 in soyuz "Launchpad-Bugs-Fixed in PPA uploads closes Ubuntu bugs" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137767 | 11:09 |
| huats_ | bluekuja: that was the reason | 11:10 |
| huats_ | :) | 11:10 |
| bluekuja | yep^^ | 11:10 |
| bluekuja | thanks for reporting it | 11:10 |
| bluekuja | to me | 11:10 |
| huats_ | :) | 11:10 |
| bluekuja | huats_, assign it to me | 11:10 |
| bluekuja | gonna review, test and eventually upload tomorrow | 11:11 |
| huats_ | which one ? | 11:11 |
| bluekuja | huats_, the bug you told me about (gmail one) | 11:11 |
| huats_ | ok | 11:11 |
| Adri2000 | huats_: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9270455/gmail-notify_1.6.1-3ubuntu2.debdiff in this debdiff, the version is incorrect, and the Section shouldn't be changed | 11:11 |
| huats_ | let me upload a corrected debdiff | 11:12 |
| bluekuja | huats_, fix what Adri2000 said | 11:12 |
| bluekuja | and I'll check fixed tomorrow | 11:12 |
| bluekuja | I'm leaving soon | 11:12 |
| huats_ | bluekuja: ok | 11:12 |
| bluekuja | huats_, just remove ppa | 11:12 |
| bluekuja | et all | 11:12 |
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| norsetto | huats: for bug 133600, if you are happy with it, mark it confirmed, assign it to nobody, and subscribe u-u-s; note that section is still universe/games | 11:12 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 133600 in flightgear "There is no icon in xubuntu menu" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/133600 | 11:12 |
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| huats_ | bluekuja: I will | 11:13 |
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| bluekuja | huats_, thanks, assign to me | 11:13 |
| huats_ | norsetto: hey | 11:13 |
| bluekuja | and remember to subscribe u-u-s | 11:13 |
| norsetto | huats: :-) | 11:13 |
| Eren | hello folks | 11:13 |
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| bluekuja | if you need sponsorship | 11:13 |
| bluekuja | Eren, hi | 11:13 |
| Eren | I'm looking for previous release of udev package, change log says "add support for mmc card" but doesn't say what patch does it | 11:14 |
| bluekuja | huats_, I see something bad on the .desktop too | 11:14 |
| Eren | eh, I will download previous diff.gz and last diff.gz, then compare it to see patch :) | 11:14 |
| bluekuja | it's not following the policy | 11:14 |
| bluekuja | Encoding=UTF-8 for example | 11:14 |
| bluekuja | is deprecated | 11:14 |
| bluekuja | I told you about before | 11:15 |
| Eren | http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/u/udev/udev_113-0ubuntu8/changelog | 11:15 |
| huats_ | bluekuja: I already removed that | 11:15 |
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| bluekuja | huats_, in fixed one? | 11:15 |
| huats_ | bluekuja: no, in the one I am about to publish | 11:15 |
| bluekuja | kk | 11:15 |
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| xtknight | Eren, you tried d/l the source and looking in its patches folder? | 11:16 |
| xtknight | it might be the patch with the latest date on it, or highest number. or it might be something matching that description | 11:16 |
| Eren | xtknight: yep, I downloaded *.diff.gz | 11:17 |
| huats_ | bluekuja: you want to be subscribed or assigned ? | 11:17 |
| xtknight | Eren, of -ubuntu7? | 11:17 |
| Eren | xtknight: ehh, all patches in patches/ folder have same number, 80 | 11:17 |
| bluekuja | huats_, assigned of course | 11:17 |
| Eren | xtknight: yes, -ubuntu7 | 11:17 |
| Eren | ehh no, ubuntu8, the last one | 11:17 |
| evand | can someone mark me as a reviewer in REVU | 11:17 |
| xtknight | Eren, ya sometimes that happens. seemingly random | 11:17 |
| xtknight | Eren, ubuntu8.diff.gz would be a diff from the original version of udev so it won't tell you only what has changed from ubuntu7 to 8, but ubuntu0 to 8 | 11:17 |
| bluekuja | evand, you need hobbsee, ajmitch or siretart | 11:18 |
| Eren | now I'm trying to get previous diff.gz (ubuntu7) and I'll compare with ubuntu8.diff.gz then see what patches have been added in last diff | 11:18 |
| evand | sleeping, probably sleeping, and no idea | 11:18 |
| evand | argh | 11:18 |
| bluekuja | evand, :) | 11:18 |
| evand | thanks bluekuja | 11:18 |
| Eren | xtknight: hmm.. | 11:18 |
| xtknight | Eren, ya that would work if u can find ubuntu7 | 11:18 |
| bluekuja | evand, np :) | 11:18 |
| huats_ | bluekuja: sorry to ask but what is the aim of assigning it to you ? | 11:18 |
| huats_ | bluekuja: just to understand the process... | 11:19 |
| Eren | xtknight: yeah, the problem is it, I can't find it, all mirrors have been updated and ubuntu7 have been deleted | 11:19 |
| bluekuja | huats_, I remember I have to review and sponsor that package | 11:19 |
| bluekuja | if not, I'll forget | 11:19 |
| bluekuja | :) | 11:19 |
| Eren | or, the better way is contacting with udev developer :P | 11:19 |
| Eren | s/developer/package maintainer/ | 11:19 |
| xtknight | Eren, end goal ? | 11:19 |
| huats_ | bluekuja: ok | 11:19 |
| xtknight | bug fixing? | 11:19 |
| Eren | xtknight: adding support for mmc stick for my distro | 11:20 |
| huats_ | bluekuja: thanks | 11:20 |
| bluekuja | huats_, assigning means "hey, I'm working on this" | 11:20 |
| bluekuja | so other MOTUs doesnt duplicate the work | 11:20 |
| bluekuja | and move to other packages | 11:20 |
| bluekuja | :) | 11:20 |
| Eren | xtknight: I have patched hal for it with ubuntu patch, now udev needs patching | 11:20 |
| norsetto | huats: and so you can kick his ass if he is not working on it ;-) | 11:20 |
| bluekuja | huats_, generally subscribe u-u-s | 11:20 |
| bluekuja | norsetto, yeah, that's it | 11:21 |
| bluekuja | :) | 11:21 |
| bluekuja | huats_, just publish new debdiff and wait tomorrow | 11:22 |
| bluekuja | ;) | 11:22 |
| norsetto | scottk: do you think it would help to attach some info to Bug 95651? I've got the buildlog for instance. | 11:22 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 95651 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] Bless" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95651 | 11:22 |
| ScottK | norsetto: I was just looking at this. What it really needs is a good reason why it should be in Gutsy and can't wait for Hardy. | 11:23 |
| bluekuja | ScottK, about sunbird-locales | 11:24 |
| ScottK | Yes | 11:24 |
| bluekuja | gonna work on them with asac and upload them as soon as I can | 11:24 |
| ajmitch | evand: what do you need? | 11:24 |
| bluekuja | I've seen your approvation | 11:24 |
| bluekuja | so gonna move to it | 11:24 |
| bluekuja | :) | 11:24 |
| norsetto | scottK: becuase I've been working on this in June and I was waiting for the bloody DD to do his little bit? | 11:24 |
| bluekuja | ajmitch, he was asking | 11:25 |
| bluekuja | to get his account set to Reviewer | 11:25 |
| bluekuja | on REVU | 11:25 |
| ScottK | norsetto: That's why you want it and that makes total sense. | 11:25 |
| norsetto | scottK: but seriously, I don't see any reason why ubuntu can't wait (hard to say, makes my heart bleed :-)) | 11:25 |
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| bluekuja | :) | 11:25 |
| ScottK | The question though is why do we take archive admin time for it right now when pitti and others have lots of stuff to due. | 11:25 |
| ScottK | norsetto: I think, painful though it may be personally, that that's the right answer. | 11:26 |
| norsetto | ah! life is full of painful decisions .... | 11:27 |
| norsetto | scottK; just unsubscribe motu-uvf. Should I subscribe u-u-s with the proviso that this can wait for hardy? | 11:28 |
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| bluekuja | good night to everyone | 11:30 |
| norsetto | bluekuja bed!? | 11:30 |
| bluekuja | huats_, good work :) | 11:30 |
| huats_ | Adri2000: I've changed the Section to be build on ppa... | 11:30 |
| huats_ | bluekuja: thanks | 11:30 |
| bluekuja | norsetto, yeah | 11:30 |
| bluekuja | quite tired today | 11:30 |
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| norsetto | ah, the young of today..... | 11:30 |
| bluekuja | haha | 11:30 |
| bluekuja | :) | 11:30 |
| huats_ | bluekuja: sleep well | 11:30 |
| tezem | when I try to build my package in my gutsy pbuilder env. the package gdc-4.1 is not found and I don't understand why. Can somebody help me with this dep? | 11:30 |
| bluekuja | norsetto, that was nice | 11:30 |
| bluekuja | :P | 11:30 |
| Adri2000 | huats_: I know, but that shouldn't be changed for an upload to the official archive | 11:31 |
| bluekuja | huats_, ty | 11:31 |
| jrib | tezem: gdc-4.1 doesn't seem to exist in gutsy? | 11:31 |
| xtknight | gcc-4.1? | 11:31 |
| pwnguin | tezem: you didnt include universe | 11:31 |
| pwnguin | it's there | 11:31 |
| jrib | ah, it does... the bot must be outdated | 11:31 |
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| xtknight | gdc-4.1 does actually..D compiler hmm | 11:31 |
| pwnguin | ive got the packages already built | 11:31 |
| pwnguin | titanion, gunroar | 11:31 |
| jrib | ignore me | 11:31 |
| tezem | pwnguin: how do I do this? | 11:32 |
| pwnguin | tezem: i forget =( | 11:32 |
| geser | !info gdc-4.1 gutsy | 11:32 |
| ubotu | gdc-4.1: The D compiler. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.24-4.1.2-16 (gutsy), package size 3232 kB, installed size 8916 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 powerpc ppc64 lpia) | 11:32 |
| xtknight | apt-get install gdc-4.1? | 11:32 |
| pwnguin | xtknight: pbuilder | 11:32 |
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| jrib | tezem: edit /etc/pbuilderrc , comments should be straightforward | 11:32 |
| geser | tezem: have you universe enabled in your pbuilder? | 11:32 |
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| ScottK | norsetto: For hardy it should get auto synced. Just keep an eye on it to make sure when the time comes. I'll just invalid the bug. | 11:32 |
| arthur- | tezem: ping | 11:32 |
| norsetto | ScottK: okki dokki | 11:33 |
| arthur- | hello ScottK | 11:33 |
| pwnguin | tezem: I've got a ppa set up with most of the kenta cho games built | 11:33 |
| ScottK | Hello | 11:33 |
| pwnguin | just borrowed from miriam | 11:33 |
| pwnguin | err | 11:33 |
| pwnguin | yea | 11:33 |
| pwnguin | tezem: the other thing is, you need to put the packages in universe if they have universe build-depends | 11:34 |
| tezem | pwnguin: not sure if i did this correctly, where do I have to set it? | 11:34 |
| pwnguin | tezem: in Section | 11:34 |
| tezem | pwnguin: and in which file? | 11:35 |
| pwnguin | tezem: just make sure it says like Section: univese/games | 11:35 |
| pwnguin | in control | 11:35 |
| pwnguin | debian/control | 11:35 |
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| pwnguin | tezem: out of curiosity, what're ya building? | 11:35 |
| tezem | dsss | 11:35 |
| pwnguin | ah | 11:35 |
| pwnguin | havent got to that yet | 11:35 |
| arthur- | tezem: you'll find a dsss package here: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/d/dsss/dsss_0.72.1-1.dsc | 11:36 |
| tezem | pwnguin: universe/devel should be right? | 11:36 |
| arthur- | http://bugs.debian.org/441426 | 11:37 |
| pwnguin | sounds about right | 11:37 |
| tezem | arthur-: man :-$ | 11:37 |
| arthur- | tezem: should be uploaded soon, what is the problem exactly with gdc-4.1 ? | 11:37 |
| tezem | arthur-: nothing just had problems in general with packaging but everything is clear now. | 11:38 |
| arthur- | ok | 11:38 |
| arthur- | have fun with D ;-) | 11:38 |
| pwnguin | arthur-: you handling gdc? | 11:38 |
| tezem | well I will continue to build my package even if there is a debian package | 11:38 |
| arthur- | pwnguin: yup, I'm the debian maintainer | 11:38 |
| tezem | or is that not allowed? | 11:38 |
| pwnguin | tezem: always good practice. dsss sounds like it'll put you through about everything | 11:39 |
| pwnguin | tezem: well, in a sense it's wasted effort, but from a learning perspective it's fine to make a package from scratch ;) | 11:39 |
| tezem | pwnguin: yeah and it's my first package | 11:40 |
| pwnguin | arthur-: neat. is there a solution to template forward referecnes in the works? | 11:40 |
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| Baby | hi :) | 11:42 |
| tristanbob | Question: I would like to create a simple package that does 3 things: 1. Install dependencies 2. Copy files to folder 3. Install icon in menu | 11:42 |
| tristanbob | ben: this is a java app, so no compiling is necessary | 11:43 |
| arthur- | Baby: \o/ | 11:43 |
| === Baby waves at arthur-! :) | ||
| tezem | No gdc is still not found | 11:43 |
| arthur- | tezem: sudo pbuilder update perhaps | 11:43 |
| arthur- | Baby: :) | 11:43 |
| Baby | i have some other 3 D games ready and 2 other in production :) | 11:44 |
| huats_ | norsetto: I've put a new debdiff... with the correct section | 11:44 |
| huats_ | norsetto: so I'll subscribe u-u-s | 11:45 |
| arthur- | we also have bindings... which must be packaged :-) | 11:45 |
| pwnguin | Baby: you're just tearing it up | 11:45 |
| norsetto | huats: cool | 11:45 |
| Baby | :) | 11:46 |
| pwnguin | Baby: ive been meaning to ask about the kenta cho packages. why quilt over dpatch? | 11:46 |
| huats_ | norsetto: it is thanks to you.... | 11:46 |
| Baby | pwnguin: I know quilt better than dpatch | 11:46 |
| norsetto | huats: wait for the fire of the u-u-s squad ;-) | 11:46 |
| pwnguin | ah. i dont really know either | 11:46 |
| pwnguin | dpatch seemed easier | 11:46 |
| Baby | and in any case, it's a coordinated decision of the games team | 11:46 |
| Baby | we decided to use quilt and debhelper for all the games | 11:47 |
| pwnguin | dpatch-edit, and you get a new shell to make changes in | 11:47 |
| pwnguin | when you're done, you get a patch | 11:47 |
| Baby | quilt edit :) | 11:47 |
| arthur- | :) | 11:47 |
| pwnguin | ah | 11:47 |
| Baby | just the same | 11:47 |
| pwnguin | i was wondering how the hell one made a diff like that | 11:47 |
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| Baby | quilt is very easy :) | 11:48 |
| pwnguin | so was dpatch :) | 11:48 |
| Baby | http://www.coffeebreaks.org/blogs/wp-content/archives/talks/2005/quilt/quiltintro-s5.html | 11:48 |
| Baby | ;) | 11:48 |
| norsetto | huats: don't forget to send your fixes to debian | 11:49 |
| huats_ | norsetto: I'll do that tomorrow | 11:51 |
| huats_ | norsetto: but thanks for the reminder | 11:52 |
| huats_ | good night everyone | 11:52 |
| norsetto | huats: a+ | 11:52 |
| ScottK | Baby: Do you have a moment for a PM? | 11:53 |
| Baby | yep, of course | 11:53 |
| tezem | hmm I can't figure out how I can add the universe repo to my pbuilder because it seems that the script I use doesn't use the config in /etc/pbuilderrc for some reason. I uncommented the line with universe and so on. | 11:54 |
| === Fujitsu sighs at the Compiz decision. | ||
| ajmitch | Fujitsu: it was expected | 12:04 |
| ajmitch | Fujitsu: the tracker decision is worse, I think | 12:04 |
| Fujitsu | Oh, that sounds bad :( | 12:05 |
| Fujitsu | Why are we condemning Intel users to no useful video support? | 12:05 |
| ajmitch | because it's shiny | 12:05 |
| === Fujitsu reads the logs. | ||
| tezem | arthur-: what does this watch do in the dsss package? It points to the svn downloads. | 12:08 |
| Fujitsu | So the reason we have it is because we'll get bad press if we don't? That's... a bit odd. | 12:17 |
| ajmitch | because all the cool kids are doing it | 12:18 |
| Fujitsu | `I honestly don't think that the GL problems are a very big deal; 3D apps on Ubuntu are a tiny corner case' | 12:22 |
| Fujitsu | This is encouraging. | 12:22 |
| ajmitch | which is why I turned off compiz on my desktop | 12:26 |
| Fujitsu | I run it most of the time, but the CPU usage when playing videos is.. rather high. | 12:26 |
| Fujitsu | And no scaling, it seems. | 12:26 |
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