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[02:21] TheMuso: sure === Frogzoo [n=Frogzoo@202.155.165.25] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:22] ScottK: the bloated thing doesn't build on my machine too, I think it needs at least 2 GB === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-208-222.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RAOF is now around [02:33] StevenK: Hi, I'm back. [02:37] StevenK: Yes, democracyplayer can be removed from the archives. Miro superceds it. === mayeco [n=mayeco@201.218.105.31] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:38] RAOF: What about a transitional package? [02:38] Or aern't we supporting that? [02:39] Replaces: democracyplayer [02:39] Provides: democracyplayer [02:39] ah ok [02:39] forgot about that. :p [02:41] TheMuso: I'm all over it :) [02:41] Also, hi crimsun :) [02:42] RAOF: You'll file a Bug of Death? [02:42] I'll look into how to do that, yes. [02:42] Now that I'm back from Hobart, I'll me more active again. === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RAOF wishes our spam filter wouldn't send "I've blocked a virus!!!!" messages. [02:46] StevenK: So, in short, the process is "File a bug asking for it to be removed, and subscribe archive-admin"? [02:49] RAOF: Correct. === minghua [i=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:59] Bug Of Death filed. [02:59] Nice. [03:00] I won't bother fixing it against the new boost, then. :-) [03:01] Oh, crap. New boost? [03:01] Oh, geser's fixed miro against the new boost, right? === StevenK nods. 1.34.1 [03:01] Right. [03:01] I'm about to upload 28 rebuilds. [03:02] Hoooray for libboost! [03:02] Yeah, well... [03:03] StevenK: ooo fun. === Paddy_EIRE [n=patrick@89.240.241.231] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:13] Heya gang [03:15] Heya bddebian [03:15] Hi RAOF [03:17] can some motu please rebuild vmware kernel modules please? they've been stuck on feisty kernel versions... [03:18] and vmware-player refuses to install on gutsy as a result [03:19] Depends: vmware-player-kernel-modules-2.6.20-15 but it is not installable [03:21] alex-weej_: I think the kernel team are responsible for that, as the kernel is a constantly moving target. === StevenK pushes 28 uploads uphill to upload.u.c [03:22] dang === bddebian does nothing as usual [03:22] StevenK: Hopefully most of those aren't big. :) [03:23] VMware Build Team is marked as maintainer so hmmm [03:23] TheMuso: They are all rebuilds, but some of them will take over an hour to build. 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[07:15] It looks, based on a quick glance at the diff that the Debian maintainer has cleaned it up a bit. === Spec [n=nwheeler@ubuntu/member/spec] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ScottK is going to bed. [07:18] Good night all (or StevenK which may well be all). === caravena [n=caravena@pc-84-203-83-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:22] Heh === XSource [n=XSource@41.201.230.192] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [i=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zic [n=Zic@ubuntu/member/zic] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-208-222.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@88.193.25.129] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-91-36.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gasten [n=Gasten@h52n9c1o1095.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jml [n=jml@ppp121-44-221-92.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === asisak [n=conp@ubuntu/member/coNP] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:57] Good morning! === lionel [n=lionel@ip-149.net-89-3-208.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === khermans [i=khermans@nat/cisco/x-1fb5d2a96c5f1af4] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:03] Greetings, Asisak. Good luck with the mastering of the universe today. === desertc [n=mmm@c-68-52-20-230.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ask] === jussi01 [n=jussi@80.75.102.30] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:10] Hmm. [08:10] How does REVU determine if a package is an upload or a new one? [08:10] morning asisak [08:10] I have seen new packages that has been advocated by only one person and marked with a heart and also a package that is an update one and not marked by a heart... [08:10] Hey superm1_ [08:11] asisak, perhaps does it query the archive? [08:11] to see if it exists there [08:11] Oh, sure. Maybe the package is still in the NEW queue. [08:11] I mean scolily. [08:11] What is an update package now. [08:12] scolily stilll hasn't cleared NEW? [08:12] On the other hand rutilt was a new one and it was marked by a heart after my 1st ack [08:12] that's one of the first ones i remember revuing :) [08:12] superm1_: I am not saying this. I am just wondering... [08:12] Where is the queue? [08:12] https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+queue [08:12] rutitlt is in there for binary it look [08:12] Thanks superm1_ [08:13] Yes. Now it is there. [08:13] well https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+queue [08:13] if your not beta [08:13] Scolily is out of here of course. [08:13] Then it is a REVU-bug. === asisak is beta from yesterday on... :) === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:23] superm1_: do you know what the new qtpfsgui upload brings? The debdiff seems to be perfectly empty... [08:24] asisak, its a change in the .orig.tar.gz i think [08:24] Should be in the debdiff, though. [08:24] it was related to licensing i believe too [08:24] well the .orig.tar.gz's have different sizes though [08:24] but your right [08:24] should still be in the debdiff [08:25] Can you check if it is empty for you as well? [08:25] my understanding was that it didn't clear the NEW queue due to a licensing issue, so a new package freeze exception was filed for it [08:25] sure give me a sec [08:27] asisak, the debdiff is identical, but the license is indeed different between the two .orig.tar.gz's [08:28] do a diff -urN across the two directories === tonyyarusso is hoping more work will be done on processing the NEW queue soon === toutouff [n=nicolas@gov91-1-82-234-90-217.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:28] But why is this omitted in the debdiff :( [08:28] i wonder if he accidently reverts the changes [08:28] in the .diff.tar.gz [08:28] This might be the case. === xstasi [n=xstasi@85-18-14-24.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:30] hm well no the diff's are identical on the two [08:31] by gunzip'ing the two .diff.gz's [08:31] hm === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:32] hmm. is ubuntu affected by US export laws? [08:32] tonyyarusso: I find if I ask nicely, I can get stuff out of NEW. [08:33] StevenK: I wouldn't know who to ask - any suggestions? [08:33] pwnguin: depends where the developers reside - remember it's an "export" law [08:34] asisak, i figured it out [08:34] he updated the .orig.tar.gz [08:34] but didn't regenerate the dsc/diff.gz === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:35] at least that is what it is looking like to me [08:35] superm1_: thanks, cool [08:36] Hey folks. [08:36] Hey TheMuso [08:36] OT: Any of you folks know of good Ubuntu/Linux-related podcasts? [08:36] hey TheMuso [08:37] tonyyarusso: so the servers are not in the US [08:37] asisak, er nvm i take that back. its still not showing up differently [08:37] tonyyarusso: apparently fingerprint verification may be subject to export laws =/ [08:37] pwnguin: not most of them anyway, and I'd think most people using the US ones are in it...? [08:37] the mirrors at least [08:38] but if you upload to say a ppa [08:39] Then I suspect it is subject to *UK* export law. [08:39] tonyyarusso: What do you want to get looked at? [08:39] StevenK: kompozer, still === Nicke [n=niclasa@ua-83-227-140-135.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:39] StevenK: (someone actually just sent an e-mail asking if it had been processed yet, after seeing the UVFe) [08:40] StevenK: Neil Wilson? [08:41] StevenK: ty :) [08:41] Grrhm? [08:42] I'm omniscient [08:42] or in too many irc channels [08:42] tonyyarusso: pitti, Mithrandir or seb128 are the best people to get to know for archive type things. :-) [08:42] StevenK: good to know === Zic [n=Zic@ubuntu/member/zic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:46] ~799/c [08:46] argh [08:49] Hrm. TheMuso is getting more unpredictable about running c === coNP [n=conp@ubuntu/member/coNP] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:53] StevenK: Its more to do with orca and unusual behavior if lag occurs. === TheMuso thinks that a screen reader should be written in python. [08:54] s/should/shouldn't/ === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-91-36.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:00] TheMuso: It makes sense to me - it allows it to be very easily extended. [09:01] TheMuso: Maybe the Orca guys need to refactor the reading code into a Python module written in C. === giskard [n=giskard@213-140-22-74.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:01] TheMuso: Although, is the problem in the *reading*, or the *speaking*? [09:04] StevenK: Haven't tried to work it out. === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F75228.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:05] Mind you, this is not on the most speedy machine I have, and on an arch that is not officially supported by Ubuntu. :) [09:05] good morning === vil [n=lada@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ant30 [n=aperezar@19.Red-80-59-20.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:16] morning dholbach! === jsomers [n=jsomers@d5152D0CE.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:16] hey jussi01 [09:16] ajmitch: I cannot remember disabling it. I therefore don't think I did :) [09:16] morning doko [09:16] hey siretart [09:16] morning folks! [09:16] hi dholbach! hi doko! 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[12:42] hi Hobbsee [12:44] hey sistpoty === dholbach hugs sistpoty [12:45] hi dholbach === sistpoty hugs dholbach [12:45] oh, I should be careful, as I'm ill atm, not to spread my disease *g* [12:46] sistpoty: you're not the only one... 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[01:59] hi bluekuja [01:59] sistpoty, heya stefan! [01:59] :) === ddaa [n=ddaa@82.241.238.155] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.103.95] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:00] sistpoty, everything ok? === cprov [n=cprov@canonical/launchpad/cprov] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:00] bluekuja: yes, apart from that I'm ill, everything's fine :) [02:00] Hi, do you guys know if any effort was made to package http://peadrop.com/blog/2007/01/06/pretty-emacs/ based on the gutsy snapshot? [02:00] sistpoty, oh :) I hope you'll be ok again soon! === laga [n=laga@mythwiki.de] has left #ubuntu-motu ["bye"] [02:01] bluekuja: morning. Please have a look at bug 109151 [02:01] Launchpad bug 109151 in uswsusp "no hibernate with uswsusp installed" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109151 [02:01] bluekuja: thanks... actually I'm almost recovered, so I guess I can go back to work tomorrow [02:01] sistpoty, Is persia disappeared? [02:01] crimsun: Hey, are you around? [02:01] Whoopie, heya [02:02] bluekuja: no idea... haven't been much around on irc recently [02:02] checking [02:02] bluekuja: uswsusp needs more love then just fixing the merge. [02:02] Whoopie, I dont use that package [02:02] By us, or the Debian guy? [02:02] and it would be nice to have you on ity [02:02] bluekuja: persia has been pretty tied up with work the last month or so. He still reads e-mail if you need something. [02:03] ScottK, oh thanks! === jdstrand [n=jamie@mail.strandboge.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lando [n=lando@adsl-074-236-035-138.sip.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:04] Whoopie, gonna test the debdiff right now [02:04] Whoopie, the desc is not really good [02:04] just write re-adding usplash support [02:05] bluekuja: ok [02:05] anyway I need someone to test it === Knightlust [n=dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:05] somewhere [02:05] to confirm it works [02:05] anyway I'm grabbing everything atm [02:05] sure, hopefully, I'll find some time on the weekend. [02:06] Whoopie, do you want to take of that package? [02:06] *care [02:06] e.g testing, bug fixing et all? [02:09] bluekuja: normally, I use suspend2 for hibernate, but I wanted to test an alternative and found this issue. I have no clue about the procedure for revu, etc. [02:09] Whoopie, actually that's not a problem [02:09] Whoopie, you dont need revu for that anyway [02:09] just subscribe to all bugs uswusp related [02:10] and try to help us out [02:10] Whoopie, please delete tmp stuff [02:10] It's not nice for a debdiff [02:10] ;) [02:13] bluekuja: I did that debdiff with "debdiff". that's what it produced. [02:13] Whoopie, I know. But as I said it's not nice to have it [02:13] you can easily delete it manually [02:13] don't worry === Knightlust [n=kvirc@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:13] ok === Frogzoo [n=Frogzoo@202.155.165.25] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:14] bluekuja: what I don't understand why uswsusp doesn't depend automaticly on libusplash0. [02:14] Whoopie, what do you mean with automatically? === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.103.95] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:16] bluekuja: why doesn't dh_shlibdeps generate the dependency? [02:17] Whoopie, oh, that's better [02:17] :) === fredix_ is now known as fredix === lando__ [n=lando@adsl-074-236-035-138.sip.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:18] Whoopie, is it libsplashy1? [02:18] debian has it [02:19] bluefoxicy: libusplash0 [02:19] s/bluefoxicy/bluekuja [02:19] Whoopie, I dont know then [02:19] Whoopie, you may ask to debian maintainer [02:19] to have some clarifications === lando__ [n=lando@adsl-074-236-035-138.sip.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jekil [n=alessand@82.58.208.33] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MagnusR [n=magru@89.191.20.67] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-motu === EliasAmaral [n=dark@unaffiliated/EliasAmaral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MagnusR [n=magru@89.191.20.67] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === RainCT [n=RainCT@unaffiliated/rainct] has joined #ubuntu-motu === huats [n=huats@194.98.120.3] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lmr_ [n=lmr@201.82.51.164] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lmr_ [n=lmr@201.82.51.164] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:54] moin all [02:54] Hi fernando [02:54] hey, fernando! [02:54] hi geser, jwendell [02:55] fernando, did you see dholbach's comment? [02:55] jwendell, let me see === norsetto [n=Cesare@87.13.209.128] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:55] hey jwendell, hey fernando, hey geser [02:55] how's it going guys? [02:56] hi, dholbach! [02:56] dholbach, fine, thanks. and you? [02:56] afternoon lads [02:56] good good :-) [02:56] heya norsetto [02:56] Hi dholbach, norsetto [02:56] geser: hey === norsetto bows to the master [02:57] sorry, the Master :-) [02:58] scottK: Saw my message about eclipse? [02:58] Yes I did. [02:58] Thanks for trying. === lando [n=lando@adsl-074-236-035-138.sip.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:59] ScottK: that thing is a killer :-( [02:59] dholbach: can you have a look at that gimmie bug, I would patch it myself but im not sure https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gimmie/+bug/138948 [02:59] Launchpad bug 138948 in gimmie "Gimmie crashes on startup" [Unknown,Confirmed] [02:59] norsetto: Agreed. [02:59] dholbach, on #134560, this fixes are to gtk-vnc or vinagre? or both? =) [03:00] fernando: please file a separate bug for gtk-vnc and I'll add my list of notes to it [03:00] zul: looking [03:00] dholbach, ok, great [03:00] anyone need a test compilation for lpia ;-) ? [03:00] dholbach: thanks [03:01] zul: I wonder why Alex does not commit it to svn [03:01] fernando: But please don't subscribe motu-uvf to it. [03:01] ScottK: btw, solved my sound problem after the last kmix update [03:01] norsetto: Great. [03:02] zul: yeah, looks good to commit it afaics [03:02] dholbach: ok ill do it tonight [03:02] rock on [03:03] ScottK, ok, thanks === DarkSun88 [n=Ma@ubuntu/member/darksun88] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:04] Hi all [03:05] hi darkie [03:06] Hi norsetto [03:08] dholbach, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/139371 [03:08] Launchpad bug 139371 in ubuntu "[need-packaging] gtk-vnc" [Undecided,New] [03:09] fixing vinagre [03:10] dholbach: screw it ive already uploaded the fix [03:10] yoohoo [03:10] fernando: updated, please bump back to fix committed once you've fixed those [03:10] StevenK: I've seen you working on sfftobmp with the new boost. Is it ok if I upload a fixed package? === rbelem [n=rodrigo@dasasob.nokia.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === BugMaN [n=BugMaN@nat.cabi.uniroma1.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xhaker [n=xhaker@a81-84-26-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Knightlust [n=kvirc@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Time] === tmarble [n=tmarble@user-38q4et6.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MagnusR [n=magru@89.191.20.67] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MagnusR [n=magru@89.191.20.67] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Hobbsee pokes jono === sistpoty is off again [03:34] cya === zul pokes Hobbsee === Hobbsee pokes zul back === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-185-239.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdstrand [n=jamie@mail.strandboge.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul hits Hobbsee in the head === Hobbsee falls over [03:40] Hi all === Hobbsee waves [03:42] I have build in my ppa a new .deb that fixes #138167 [03:42] do I also have to put the debdiff in a bug comment, or do I have to reference my ppa build in the bug ? === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdstrand [n=jamie@mail.strandboge.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:44] use a debdiff - easier to check === leonel [n=leonel@189.155.122.166] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:46] Hobbsee: o [03:46] ok === radhios [n=radhios@unaffiliated/radhios] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:50] Hobbsee: say jono's name 3 times and he will magically appear === CrummyGummy [n=CrummyGu@dsl-242-55-243.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:58] Hobbsee: heading to a meeting, ping me in a few hours :) === asantoni [n=alb@CPE000f3d9e6f8d-CM001868e2c60e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:58] jono: will be asleep then (or should be). feel free to ping me the next time you see me [03:58] Hobbsee: ok [03:58] Hobbsee: or mail me :) [04:01] \sh: Do you have a moment? [04:03] <\sh> if you give me 5 mins for a cigarette...sure... [04:03] \sh: OK. Let me know when you are back. Thaks. [04:03] Thanks even [04:11] dholbach: Would you please upload Bug #128262 again. UVFe is now approved. [04:11] Launchpad bug 128262 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] sqlite-ruby" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128262 === Frogzoo [n=Frogzoo@202.155.165.25] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:12] ScottK: sure [04:12] Great. === ScottK starts to wonder how big that cigarette \sh is smoking really is??? === cypherbios [n=cyr@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypherbios_ [n=cyr@201.21.169.51] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:13] ScottK: done [04:13] Cool. === BugMaN [n=BugMaN@nat.cabi.uniroma1.it] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Knightlust [n=dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:16] dholbach: For ppaput, who does it subscribe to the bug? [04:18] ubuntu-universe-sponsors or ubuntu-main-sponsors [04:18] oh, ick, so u-u-s is also sponsoring new packages. fun [04:18] there's no --uvf mode yet [04:18] <\sh> ScottK, sorry...I needed to walk to our security datacenter...across our area here :) [04:18] Hobbsee: no [04:19] Hobbsee: only if a package is in universe or multiverse already [04:19] oh right [04:19] <\sh> ScottK, how can I help you? [04:20] I noticed you said you used to work for Red Hat the other day. [04:20] <\sh> ScottK, yep [04:20] I work on another open source project where I'm the Postfix/Debian guy. [04:21] Our Sendmail/RPM guy is unfamiliar with how you get packages updated in Fedora. === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:21] ScottK: It's much harder than Ubuntu [04:22] And Fedora is maintained entirely in CVS. Crazy. [04:22] I was wondering if you were 1. Up on that process and 2. Willing to show someone how to navigate the waters (he knows RPM Packaging). [04:22] The guy is pretty good with CVS too, so that'll work. [04:22] <\sh> ScottK, in 2001 there were no fedora...and right now I don't even know the process...but you could ask on #fedora ;) [04:23] \sh: OK. Thanks. [04:23] I didn't know how long ago it was. === ScottK looks over at StevenK. [04:24] ScottK: gentoo uses cvs as well [04:25] ScottK: They don't hand out CVS access without you being vouched for. The process is a bit interesting. [04:25] I'm working from memory, and it's a little hazy [04:25] OK. [04:25] I can STFW, if you wish [04:25] I could do that too. [04:25] Thanks though. === ScottK starts to understand why the other guy is reluctant. [04:26] Mind going through it when you see it? [04:26] It's long and arduous, if I recall correctly [04:27] You say that and are a DD, so I'm scared. === superm1_ [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:27] ScottK, lol [04:27] If I find something good, I'll point it out to you. [04:27] ScottK: Contributing to Debian is simple, so is Ubuntu. Contributing to Fedora is *hard* [04:28] uh depends on what you want to contribute to ubuntu ;) [04:28] <\sh> ScottK, ping spot on #fedora...he is a long standing redhat employee...I wonder if he can help you [04:28] \sh: Thanks. [04:29] zul: Well, if you're okay if debian packaging, u-u-s makes uploading to Ubuntu simple [04:29] im talking other than packaging though ;) === \sh met some netfilter guys yesterday in karlsruhe.... [04:30] <\sh> they had a meeting here in karlsruhe, at astaro...and were drinking in the same pub... [04:32] soren: about bug 139381, I can see you will have no career in marketing :-) [04:32] Launchpad bug 139381 in gimmie "Please change package description" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139381 [04:33] norsetto: I sincerely hope you're right :) === DktrKranz [n=irc@ubuntu/member/dktrkranz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:34] superm1, around? [04:34] well he's not, but his ghost superm1_ is :) [04:35] what's up? [04:35] hehe [04:35] it concerns https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/SRU [04:35] pitti clarified that XSBC-Original-Maintainer should be set only for Feisty and newer [04:36] yes i've heard that as well too [04:36] is it worth to add this to MOTU/SRU? [04:36] well likely no: changes like that wouldn't be going into an SRU, the idea for the SRU is minimal changes [04:36] to packaging and application [04:37] but perhaps something explaining that minimal changes should be done would be worthwhile [04:38] it is required in latest releases, so I think it can be included into "minimal changes" category [04:38] Does anybody can have a look at the debdiff of the bug #138167 ? before I susbscribe u-u-s ... [04:38] Launchpad bug 138167 in gmail-notify "gmail-notify menu item tooltip is not HIG compliant" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138167 === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:39] DktrKranz, well but you normally shouldn't be modifying the maintainer on older stuff [04:39] but i see your point [04:40] i'll add some information regarding it [04:40] another question: should Examples session be integrated with some fixed bugs? [04:40] Heya gang [04:40] we have only one ATM concerning old procedure [04:41] yes i think it should. [04:41] ideally i wanted to do one that starts after the new process has been clarified [04:42] because i know the sru(s) that i've done have been a messy process and what pre-empted the clarifications [04:42] good point === amachu [n=amachu@122.164.240.190] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:42] there was one just filed i read on the motu mailing list [04:43] For dapper/edgy to toolchain is untested with the maintainer mangled, so one must not mangle the maintainer. [04:43] so perhaps tracking how that turns out it will turn into a good example [04:43] IIRC, there's only one point remaining: avoiding collisions with security updates [04:43] for Feisty and later it's appropriate for an SRU. [04:43] bddbian: Heya gangster [04:43] DktrKranz: Did you see the example of that I gave on IRC just after the MOTU meeting? [04:44] DktrKranz, yea i have to add that yet [04:44] ScottK: no sorry, it was 4 here, I went to sleep :) [04:44] DktrKranz: wimpy ...... [04:44] I'll get the log, where did you posted that? [04:45] ubuntulog may have gotten that [04:45] !logs | DktrKranz [04:45] DktrKranz: Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs [04:45] It was here. [04:45] IIRC it was lighttpd. [04:45] ok, I'm going to find it... [04:45] hey norsetto, how about lpia chroot? [04:46] DktrKranz: works a wonder, thanks :-) [04:46] which URI did you use? [04:46] DktrKranz: the one you gave me, ports [04:46] tonight I'm going to help a user fixing lpia ftbfs, I need it :) === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:46] thanks [04:47] DktrKranz: well, if you need mine just ask [04:47] IIRC, it was just 10 minutes in downloading [04:47] no problem, thanks anyway [04:47] but if you were successful in creating ia64's... === Hobbsee spies a jono, and throws pebbles at him [04:48] DktrKranz: not even thinking considering trying .... [04:48] :) === RobinD [n=robind@69-30-77-125.dq1sn.easystreet.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:51] norsetto: hi [04:51] norsetto: how are you ? [04:52] huats: salut mon am [04:52] norsetto: salut [04:52] huats: pbuilding like a madman? [04:52] norsetto: no... [04:52] huats: ah [04:53] norsetto: but I have a running gutsy righ now, which is a good thing for testing [04:54] huats: btw, since you are in Toulouse, you are not involved in Aerobus or anything like that? Could be a good excuse to test flightgear... === slavik [n=slavik@128.228.93.202] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:55] norsetto: In fact I am not working for airbus [04:55] but something like 70% of my company are... [04:55] would building a kernel module from a source package be offtopic for this channel? [04:56] PPA and Ubuntu Packaging 101 in #launchpad in 4 minutes === norsetto flies to #launchpad [04:57] in any case, I have troubles building the kernel module for iscsitarget ... I get an error about the kernel headers === paulm_ [n=paulm@dsl-242-192-25.telkomadsl.co.za] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [04:57] norsetto: can you have a look at the bug #138167 ? I have put a debdiff in it, and I like someone to see it before subscribing u-u-s [04:57] Launchpad bug 138167 in gmail-notify "gmail-notify menu item tooltip is not HIG compliant" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138167 [04:58] dholbach: thanks for being a living notifier :-) [04:58] :-) === bddebian curses illuminator some more... [05:01] Speaking of PPA, I got some feedback on my PPA terms of service bug that they're looking into changes, so maybe that'll change for the better. [05:01] huats: you should remove the ~ppa from the changelog and perhaps the universe/ in control === MagnusR [n=magru@89.191.20.67] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:02] huats: and since you are already changing the .desktop file, make it freedesktop.org v1.0 compliant too === MagnusR [n=magru@89.191.20.67] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [05:03] regarding the universe thing, may be we can ask more in the ppa 101 right nwo, but I've been told by mrevell that this will be removed automaticly === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #ubuntu-motu === anzan [n=roshi@OTWAON23-1242541782.sdsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jeromeg [n=jerome@gra94-2-82-66-142-60.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === albert23 [n=albert@86.81.99.204] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:36] I am trying to build a module that fails saying there is no usable kernel source [05:38] slavik: could you please paste your error log in pastebin.ubuntu.com? === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dpm [n=dpm@p54A138F4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === beuno [n=beuno@44-111-231-201.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tru_`z24 [n=truz_`24@74-129-166-232.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:47] cool. bug #139409 - miro bugs already. [05:47] Launchpad bug 139409 in miro "Cannot download movies using miro" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139409 [05:48] mmm...crack === Zic [n=Zic@ubuntu/member/zic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:49] use something else ;) [05:49] Hobbsee: fix it then ;) [05:49] Whatcho talking about Willis? Miro has no bugs! [05:49] that...is...so...old ;) [05:49] It's got at least one ^^^ [05:50] bug sthat old are features [05:50] DktrKranz: sure [05:50] although that doesnt seem that old === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:51] dholbach: ping [05:51] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/169/ [05:52] crud. [05:52] the headers are isntalled, but the sources are for dapper I think ... [05:52] LaserJock: pong [05:52] dholbach: I can't find my pbuilder-dist scrip in ubuntu-dev-tools [05:53] LaserJock: which version of it do you have installeD? [05:53] it should be [05:53] DktrKranz: I pasted (a bit above) [05:53] I'm looking at bzr [05:53] LaserJock: I'm on top of trunk and still have it in ./ [05:54] slavik: did you try to follow the suggestion given? apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.20-16-generic [05:54] do you get the same results? [05:54] they are isntalled ... [05:54] dholbach: grr, I'll rebranch and see if that does it [05:55] and latest version [05:55] open a console, cd /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/build and launch sudo make scripts/ [05:55] reinstall? [05:55] let's see what happens === hagi [n=hagi@adsl-84-227-89-241.adslplus.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:56] probably you'll have to launch sudo make oldconfig first... [05:56] no errors [05:56] dholbach: ok, got it now, shouldn't a bzr pull do that? [05:56] it's building :) [05:56] what exactly happened here? [05:56] LaserJock: yeah, it's what I use all the time [05:57] dholbach: :(, I was missing a lot of stuff [05:57] weird [05:57] maybe you were on the wrong branch? === Gasten [n=Gasten@h52n9c1o1095.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:57] maybe an old one? [05:57] slavik: sometimes some headers and files are required to build a kernel module [05:57] that command creates them [05:57] gotcha ... [05:57] enjoy :) [05:58] hmm, appears to be a problem with their code [05:58] FATAL: Error inserting iscsi_trgt (/lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/drivers/iscsi/iscsi_trgt.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) [05:58] look at dmesg command output [05:58] and paste it as above [05:58] I have a later version of the code (0.4.15, the one trying to get to work is 0.4.13 but it depends on stuff that isn't upto date in feisty === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:59] dholbach: I took the same url (got it from the output of bzr pull) rm -rf the dir and rebranched [05:59] weird [05:59] I didn't have that [05:59] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/170/ [05:59] guess it didn't link up properly [06:00] it seems it misses a couple of modules [06:00] modprobe should resolve them [06:01] but you need to push that module in /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/misc and launching depmod === mayeco [n=mayeco@201.218.105.31] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pedahzur [n=jkugler@209-193-29-52-cdsl-rb1.fai.acsalaska.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dfear_ [n=dfear@82-46-27-208.cable.ubr02.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:03] nope [06:04] see you tomorrow guys! === davromaniak [n=cyril@ubuntu/member/davromaniak] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:04] slavik: probably it is required for some modules to be compiled [06:04] dholbach: gone already? :-) [06:04] yeah :-) [06:05] need to look after my ill girlfriend :) [06:05] I haven't kernel source here, I need to check which one are required [06:05] the crypto ones I assume [06:05] dholbach: my wife is sick, I sympathize [06:05] yeah - people are coughing all over the place [06:05] see you tomorrow [06:05] yes, and someting related to fs === dholbach hugs LaserJock [06:07] I have a problem wit my pbuilder [06:08] I cannot tell him to add anything more than main... [06:09] I've tried to add that to my .pbuilderrc file in the COMPONENTS but nothing changed [06:09] does anybody can help me ? [06:11] huats: did you used --override-config? [06:11] *use [06:12] nope [06:12] that was the thing ! [06:12] I completly forgot about that.. [06:12] try to update the existing one specifying that option [06:14] DktrKranz: I am currently doing that... [06:15] cross your fingers, then :) === proppy [n=proppy@ram94-2-82-66-68-232.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:18] oy === Vorbote [n=vorbote@unaffiliated/vorbote] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:20] dammit, the ppa 101 is already running for hours :/ [06:20] an hour and 20 mins === lakin [n=lakin@63.193.29.162] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:22] Gawd illuminators configure check for petsc is just plain hosed [06:22] siretart: where does the ppa 101 takes place ? [06:23] proppy: #launchpad === tsmithe [n=toby@ubuntu/member/tsmithe] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:24] and is already over [06:24] DktrKranz: thanks [06:30] siretart: it'll all be on the irc logs and wiki [06:31] sure [06:32] siretart: got a minute to discuss the packaging guide [06:32] ? === hagi_ [n=hagi@adsl-84-227-140-245.adslplus.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:33] LaserJock: whats up [06:33] ? [06:33] well, I'm wondering if you disliked the idea of doing it on the wiki [06:34] Personally, I like the idea of it on the wiki [06:34] LaserJock: honestly, I dont [06:34] like wikis too much [06:35] wikis are great for collecting opinions and gathering ideas for quick collaboration [06:35] we are talking here about a document, which needs to be revised by developers, who know whats how things are going [06:36] yes [06:36] but I've never really gotten any help from developers [06:36] so I think reviews of contributions are cruical. I don't see how a wiki helps with reviews [06:36] heck, mdz didn't even know it *existed* for over a year [06:36] LaserJock: as said, I wasn't even aware that we had in in a package like it is [06:36] right [06:37] I think one of the main problems was that it is managed in a svn on the ubuntu-doc team's server [06:37] heya LaserJock [06:37] siretart, StevenK :) [06:37] I've therefore suggested to extract it to an own sourcepackage and place the master branch in a ubuntu-dev's team branch [06:38] well, I don't feel like repeating my email on irc [06:38] too strong, at leat [06:38] LaserJock, I don't like a lot the idea of putting it on the wiki, sorry for not yet sending a mail [06:38] :) [06:39] siretart, adding it on a team branch would be nice too === jeromeg [n=jerome@gra94-2-82-66-142-60.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcel [n=marcel@lt3.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsomers [n=jsomers@d51A50113.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=highvolt@dsl-241-171-243.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ant30 [n=ant30@85.136.35.228.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:58] hmm [06:58] I'm just not sure that moving it around is going to help get people to write === jdong [n=root@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:59] if people don't want to do docbook or write in a book form then it's not really gonna work === highvolt1ge [n=highvolt@dsl-243-5-91.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:02] LaserJock: please consider all 3 of my points === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:05] siretart, can you please update my account on REVU? [07:07] siretart, I get a No REVU account for bluekuja@ubuntu.com exists yet. [07:07] strange thing [07:07] it was registered with that mail === Hobbsee logs into REVU [07:08] Hobbsee, thanks [07:08] bluekuja: what account were you using for REVU before? [07:08] Hobbsee, bluekuja@ubuntu.com [07:08] ^^ [07:08] did you upload anything since REVU went down? [07:08] nope :/ [07:09] that's why, then. [07:09] that's why [07:09] yup [07:09] can you do it manually? [07:09] no, it seems to break. it'll let me set a password, but i twont actually store it or something [07:09] just upload something, then you can practice archiving. [07:10] Hobbsee, ok [07:10] Hobbsee, gonna ping you when done === cprov [n=cprov@canonical/launchpad/cprov] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:13] Hobbsee, uploaded [07:13] Hobbsee, you should see it on incoming [07:13] cterm? [07:13] ximp3 === Hobbsee waits [07:14] :) [07:15] bluekuja: OK, you should be able to recover your p/w === lmr_ [n=lmr@201.82.51.164] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:15] Hobbsee, thanks [07:15] let me see === Hobbsee can see it, and it's not "None", which is always a good start. [07:16] having access to here is useful [07:16] although it does make me want a large lightning bolt for people who *continue* to upload binaries to REVU [07:16] Hobbsee, another revu-key instance is already running [07:16] so cannot get pwd back [07:16] bluekuja: wha? [07:17] another revu-key instance is already running [07:17] check /tmp/revu-key.pid and PID 23939 [07:17] is what I get [07:17] oh, hm [07:19] siretart: can you have a look at that? it hasnt killed /tmp/revu-key.pid, but the process no longer exists === Hobbsee was running a keyring resync a few hours ago === hoora40 [i=hoora@gateway/tor/x-24c4f68f43aa5f75] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:27] Hobbsee: could you sync it(or whatever needs to be done) for victor@pseudocode.se as well? (uploaded cterm) [07:27] victor__: no, sorry. been investigating that. i have no root over the machine, so we'll all have to wait for siretart === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:28] okay, thanks anyway :) [07:29] siretart: FYI, revu1 group doesnt have access to pbuilder, either. [07:32] bluekuja: why don't you like the idea of the packaging guide on the wiki? [07:34] moo === Hobbsee moo's back [07:37] moooooooooooooooooo === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mdomsch [n=Matt_Dom@cpe-70-124-62-55.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu === norsetto [n=Cesare@host207-240-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:44] LaserJock, mostly for the view [07:45] it was better organized on docbook === Paddy_EIRE [n=patrick@78.144.81.237] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:46] siretart: there you go, my first change to REVU. [07:47] ScottK, gonna upload soon sunbird-locales. Was working on it with asac [07:49] siretart: i dont think it fully fixes the bug - i think youv'e still got permission problems...but it's a start : [07:49] * :) [07:49] bluekuja: so basically wiki doesn't look as good? [07:49] LaserJock, yeah [07:49] LaserJock, it will be open to everyone? [07:50] or only someone will be granted to modify it? [07:56] everyone [07:56] it would be wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide [07:57] scottK: what is required by motu-uvf for a new package to be synced from Debian? [07:57] LaserJock, do you think is ok to gave access to everyone? [07:57] to a page like that? [07:58] we give that access for all our policy pages [07:58] even Main policy pages [07:58] ok then === jussi_ [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-188-164.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:58] LaserJock, branch idea was nice too [07:59] why? [07:59] I'm not quite sure why going from bzr->svn and ~ubuntu-doc to ~ubuntu-dev is going to suddenly make everything better [08:00] LaserJock, yeah, that's true too [08:00] moving it to bzr it just changing a small particular [08:00] not the organisation itself === khermans [i=khermans@nat/cisco/x-0eae01dde661eff1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jussi_ [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-185-239.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:02] LaserJock, I'll think about it === tmarble [n=tmarble@user-38q4et6.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:07] I'm not saying I'm against the idea really, I hadn't thought of that [08:07] but I'm not sure exactly if that'd solve the problem [08:07] yeah [08:07] same here [08:07] the packaging guide is the only Ubuntu developer documentation that's *not* on the wiki [08:08] yup === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Martinp23 [n=martinp2@wikimedia/Martinp23] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure_ [n=lure@89-212-18-142.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:31] woah, so many hilights [08:31] where to start? [08:31] heh === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:33] dammit, where has hobbsee gone? === cpro1 [n=cprov@201-92-25-195.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu === davro-desktop [n=davro@ubuntu/member/davromaniak] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:35] siretart, she gone to sleep [08:35] * Hobbsee looks at the time [08:35] * Hobbsee --> bed. === proppy [n=proppy@ram94-2-82-66-68-232.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:36] hm. I see [08:36] hi [08:36] bluekuja: do you have an account now? [08:36] siretart, yup, I found out a problem [08:36] and reported to her [08:36] is there a way to keep a file installed under /etc from being considered a confffile automatically? === proppy hugs norsetto_limbo [08:37] e.g. /etc/kernel/{prerm,postinst}.d/* [08:37] another revu-key instance is already running [08:37] check /tmp/revu-key.pid and PID 23939 [08:37] was the problem, siretart [08:37] isn't really a conffile, it's a hook [08:38] mdomsch: you might want to try #-devel [08:38] zul, will do thanks [08:38] StevenK: You aboot? === fraco [n=fraco@213.219.144.103.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:41] Hmm, should we remove ieee80211 from Ubuntu? [08:41] could someone (ScottK?) take a look at bug #138836 and bug #137573, and tell me what I need to do for these changes to show up in gutsy ? 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So I decide to pass it through desktop-file-validate... [10:54] huats, hi [10:54] te thing is that i complains about an Application category not defined. Actualy it has : "Application" [10:54] and Network [10:54] Application category is deprecated [10:54] so delete [10:54] that was my idea... [10:55] what does validate says? [10:55] but I'd rather have a confirmation [10:55] (I hope you're using gutsy desktop-utils( [10:55] *) [10:55] that Network alone is fine [10:56] I am using the feisty version [10:56] to validate [10:56] huats, bad :) [10:56] get gutsy one [10:56] and try again [10:56] and provide me the output [10:56] ok I will right now... === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@88.193.25.129] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:57] just let the time to my vmware server to start [10:57] :) [10:57] ok [10:57] :) === lmr [n=lmr@201.82.51.164] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:00] bluekuja: after the various modification I did there is no ouput [11:00] so it is good right ? === alex-weej [n=alex@cpc2-darl3-0-0-cust237.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:01] huats, if desktop-file-validate doesnt complain [11:01] it's ok [11:01] :) [11:01] ok thanks [11:01] huats, btw what did you modify? [11:01] Suppression of Encoding [11:01] are there any plans to put superswitcher in the repos http://code.google.com/p/superswitcher/ [11:01] Removal of the .png on the icon [11:02] the Category [11:02] and the tooltip so that it is HIG Gnome compliant now (that was the bug) [11:03] huats, bug number? [11:03] #138167 [11:04] Launchpad Bug #138167 [11:04] Launchpad bug 138167 in gmail-notify "gmail-notify menu item tooltip is not HIG compliant" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138167 [11:05] Paddy_EIRE: only if someone is interested in packaging it, and only for hardy, not gutsy [11:06] huats, mmm [11:06] it was already uploaded? [11:06] no [11:06] huats, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gmail-notify/+bug/138167/comments/2 [11:06] Launchpad bug 138167 in gmail-notify "gmail-notify menu item tooltip is not HIG compliant" [Low,In progress] [11:06] but I already provided a ppa... [11:06] that was it seems uploaded... [11:07] huats, I see that [11:07] and some hours later [11:07] your debdiff === lmr__ [n=lmr@201.82.51.164] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:07] :D [11:07] yep [11:07] why? [11:08] why ? because I've been told that it is easier ... to provide the debdiff [11:08] proppy: Are ubuntu-universe-sponsors subscribed to the bugs? [11:08] huats, the debdiff is ok [11:08] huats, I just want to know why I see comment 2 [11:08] when you add LP: #BUG [11:09] bluekuja: probably a soyuz bug [11:09] Adri2000, yeah, I guess so [11:09] it shouldn't close the bug report when uploaded to a ppa [11:09] yeah [11:09] he pushed to ppa and closed it [11:09] not nice thing [11:09] it may confuse ppl [11:09] bug #137767 [11:09] Launchpad bug 137767 in soyuz "Launchpad-Bugs-Fixed in PPA uploads closes Ubuntu bugs" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137767 [11:10] bluekuja: that was the reason [11:10] :) [11:10] yep^^ [11:10] thanks for reporting it [11:10] to me [11:10] :) [11:10] huats_, assign it to me [11:11] gonna review, test and eventually upload tomorrow [11:11] which one ? [11:11] huats_, the bug you told me about (gmail one) [11:11] ok [11:11] huats_: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9270455/gmail-notify_1.6.1-3ubuntu2.debdiff in this debdiff, the version is incorrect, and the Section shouldn't be changed [11:12] let me upload a corrected debdiff [11:12] huats_, fix what Adri2000 said [11:12] and I'll check fixed tomorrow [11:12] I'm leaving soon [11:12] bluekuja: ok [11:12] huats_, just remove ppa [11:12] et all === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:12] huats: for bug 133600, if you are happy with it, mark it confirmed, assign it to nobody, and subscribe u-u-s; note that section is still universe/games [11:12] Launchpad bug 133600 in flightgear "There is no icon in xubuntu menu" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/133600 === toutouff [n=nicolas@gov91-1-82-234-90-217.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:13] bluekuja: I will === Eren [n=eren@unaffiliated/erenturkay] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:13] huats_, thanks, assign to me [11:13] norsetto: hey [11:13] and remember to subscribe u-u-s [11:13] huats: :-) [11:13] hello folks === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:13] if you need sponsorship [11:13] Eren, hi [11:14] I'm looking for previous release of udev package, change log says "add support for mmc card" but doesn't say what patch does it [11:14] huats_, I see something bad on the .desktop too [11:14] eh, I will download previous diff.gz and last diff.gz, then compare it to see patch :) [11:14] it's not following the policy [11:14] Encoding=UTF-8 for example [11:14] is deprecated [11:15] I told you about before [11:15] http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/u/udev/udev_113-0ubuntu8/changelog [11:15] bluekuja: I already removed that === jdstrand [n=jamie@mail.strandboge.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:15] huats_, in fixed one? [11:15] bluekuja: no, in the one I am about to publish [11:15] kk === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:16] Eren, you tried d/l the source and looking in its patches folder? [11:16] it might be the patch with the latest date on it, or highest number. or it might be something matching that description [11:17] xtknight: yep, I downloaded *.diff.gz [11:17] bluekuja: you want to be subscribed or assigned ? [11:17] Eren, of -ubuntu7? [11:17] xtknight: ehh, all patches in patches/ folder have same number, 80 [11:17] huats_, assigned of course [11:17] xtknight: yes, -ubuntu7 [11:17] ehh no, ubuntu8, the last one [11:17] can someone mark me as a reviewer in REVU [11:17] Eren, ya sometimes that happens. seemingly random [11:17] Eren, ubuntu8.diff.gz would be a diff from the original version of udev so it won't tell you only what has changed from ubuntu7 to 8, but ubuntu0 to 8 [11:18] evand, you need hobbsee, ajmitch or siretart [11:18] now I'm trying to get previous diff.gz (ubuntu7) and I'll compare with ubuntu8.diff.gz then see what patches have been added in last diff [11:18] sleeping, probably sleeping, and no idea [11:18] argh [11:18] evand, :) [11:18] thanks bluekuja [11:18] xtknight: hmm.. [11:18] Eren, ya that would work if u can find ubuntu7 [11:18] evand, np :) [11:18] bluekuja: sorry to ask but what is the aim of assigning it to you ? [11:19] bluekuja: just to understand the process... [11:19] xtknight: yeah, the problem is it, I can't find it, all mirrors have been updated and ubuntu7 have been deleted [11:19] huats_, I remember I have to review and sponsor that package [11:19] if not, I'll forget [11:19] :) [11:19] or, the better way is contacting with udev developer :P [11:19] s/developer/package maintainer/ [11:19] Eren, end goal ? [11:19] bluekuja: ok [11:19] bug fixing? [11:20] xtknight: adding support for mmc stick for my distro [11:20] bluekuja: thanks [11:20] huats_, assigning means "hey, I'm working on this" [11:20] so other MOTUs doesnt duplicate the work [11:20] and move to other packages [11:20] :) [11:20] xtknight: I have patched hal for it with ubuntu patch, now udev needs patching [11:20] huats: and so you can kick his ass if he is not working on it ;-) [11:20] huats_, generally subscribe u-u-s [11:21] norsetto, yeah, that's it [11:21] :) [11:22] huats_, just publish new debdiff and wait tomorrow [11:22] ;) [11:22] scottk: do you think it would help to attach some info to Bug 95651? I've got the buildlog for instance. [11:22] Launchpad bug 95651 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] Bless" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95651 [11:23] norsetto: I was just looking at this. What it really needs is a good reason why it should be in Gutsy and can't wait for Hardy. [11:24] ScottK, about sunbird-locales [11:24] Yes [11:24] gonna work on them with asac and upload them as soon as I can [11:24] evand: what do you need? [11:24] I've seen your approvation [11:24] so gonna move to it [11:24] :) [11:24] scottK: becuase I've been working on this in June and I was waiting for the bloody DD to do his little bit? [11:25] ajmitch, he was asking [11:25] to get his account set to Reviewer [11:25] on REVU [11:25] norsetto: That's why you want it and that makes total sense. [11:25] scottK: but seriously, I don't see any reason why ubuntu can't wait (hard to say, makes my heart bleed :-)) === ajmitch will have to hunt for his revu mail address then [11:25] :) [11:25] The question though is why do we take archive admin time for it right now when pitti and others have lots of stuff to due. [11:26] norsetto: I think, painful though it may be personally, that that's the right answer. [11:27] ah! life is full of painful decisions .... [11:28] scottK; just unsubscribe motu-uvf. Should I subscribe u-u-s with the proviso that this can wait for hardy? === bluekuja --> bed [11:30] good night to everyone [11:30] bluekuja bed!? [11:30] huats_, good work :) [11:30] Adri2000: I've changed the Section to be build on ppa... [11:30] bluekuja: thanks [11:30] norsetto, yeah [11:30] quite tired today === tezem [n=tezem@chello213047234226.tirol.surfer.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:30] ah, the young of today..... [11:30] haha [11:30] :) [11:30] bluekuja: sleep well [11:30] when I try to build my package in my gutsy pbuilder env. the package gdc-4.1 is not found and I don't understand why. Can somebody help me with this dep? [11:30] norsetto, that was nice [11:30] :P [11:31] huats_: I know, but that shouldn't be changed for an upload to the official archive [11:31] huats_, ty [11:31] tezem: gdc-4.1 doesn't seem to exist in gutsy? [11:31] gcc-4.1? [11:31] tezem: you didnt include universe [11:31] it's there [11:31] ah, it does... the bot must be outdated === bluekuja off [11:31] gdc-4.1 does actually..D compiler hmm [11:31] ive got the packages already built [11:31] titanion, gunroar [11:31] ignore me [11:32] pwnguin: how do I do this? [11:32] tezem: i forget =( [11:32] !info gdc-4.1 gutsy [11:32] gdc-4.1: The D compiler. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.24-4.1.2-16 (gutsy), package size 3232 kB, installed size 8916 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 powerpc ppc64 lpia) [11:32] apt-get install gdc-4.1? [11:32] xtknight: pbuilder === ivoks [n=ivoks@16-247.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:32] tezem: edit /etc/pbuilderrc , comments should be straightforward [11:32] tezem: have you universe enabled in your pbuilder? === arthur- [n=arthur@serv2.dunnewind.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:32] norsetto: For hardy it should get auto synced. Just keep an eye on it to make sure when the time comes. I'll just invalid the bug. [11:32] tezem: ping [11:33] ScottK: okki dokki [11:33] hello ScottK [11:33] tezem: I've got a ppa set up with most of the kenta cho games built [11:33] Hello [11:33] just borrowed from miriam [11:33] err [11:33] yea [11:34] tezem: the other thing is, you need to put the packages in universe if they have universe build-depends [11:34] pwnguin: not sure if i did this correctly, where do I have to set it? [11:34] tezem: in Section [11:35] pwnguin: and in which file? [11:35] tezem: just make sure it says like Section: univese/games [11:35] in control [11:35] debian/control === ScottK ponders the need for a #launchpad-ppa channel.... [11:35] tezem: out of curiosity, what're ya building? [11:35] dsss [11:35] ah [11:35] havent got to that yet [11:36] tezem: you'll find a dsss package here: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/d/dsss/dsss_0.72.1-1.dsc [11:36] pwnguin: universe/devel should be right? [11:37] http://bugs.debian.org/441426 [11:37] sounds about right [11:37] arthur-: man :-$ [11:37] tezem: should be uploaded soon, what is the problem exactly with gdc-4.1 ? [11:38] arthur-: nothing just had problems in general with packaging but everything is clear now. [11:38] ok [11:38] have fun with D ;-) [11:38] arthur-: you handling gdc? [11:38] well I will continue to build my package even if there is a debian package [11:38] pwnguin: yup, I'm the debian maintainer [11:38] or is that not allowed? [11:39] tezem: always good practice. dsss sounds like it'll put you through about everything [11:39] tezem: well, in a sense it's wasted effort, but from a learning perspective it's fine to make a package from scratch ;) [11:40] pwnguin: yeah and it's my first package [11:40] arthur-: neat. is there a solution to template forward referecnes in the works? === tristanbob [n=tristan@oalug/member/tristanbob] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:42] hi :) [11:42] Question: I would like to create a simple package that does 3 things: 1. Install dependencies 2. Copy files to folder 3. Install icon in menu [11:43] ben: this is a java app, so no compiling is necessary [11:43] Baby: \o/ === Baby waves at arthur-! :) [11:43] No gdc is still not found [11:43] tezem: sudo pbuilder update perhaps [11:43] Baby: :) [11:44] i have some other 3 D games ready and 2 other in production :) [11:44] norsetto: I've put a new debdiff... with the correct section [11:45] norsetto: so I'll subscribe u-u-s [11:45] we also have bindings... which must be packaged :-) [11:45] Baby: you're just tearing it up [11:45] huats: cool [11:46] :) [11:46] Baby: ive been meaning to ask about the kenta cho packages. why quilt over dpatch? [11:46] norsetto: it is thanks to you.... [11:46] pwnguin: I know quilt better than dpatch [11:46] huats: wait for the fire of the u-u-s squad ;-) [11:46] ah. i dont really know either [11:46] dpatch seemed easier [11:46] and in any case, it's a coordinated decision of the games team [11:47] we decided to use quilt and debhelper for all the games [11:47] dpatch-edit, and you get a new shell to make changes in [11:47] when you're done, you get a patch [11:47] quilt edit :) [11:47] :) [11:47] ah [11:47] just the same [11:47] i was wondering how the hell one made a diff like that === xtknight [n=xtknight@c-68-43-122-211.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:48] quilt is very easy :) [11:48] so was dpatch :) [11:48] http://www.coffeebreaks.org/blogs/wp-content/archives/talks/2005/quilt/quiltintro-s5.html [11:48] ;) [11:49] huats: don't forget to send your fixes to debian [11:51] norsetto: I'll do that tomorrow [11:52] norsetto: but thanks for the reminder [11:52] good night everyone [11:52] huats: a+ [11:53] Baby: Do you have a moment for a PM? [11:53] yep, of course [11:54] hmm I can't figure out how I can add the universe repo to my pbuilder because it seems that the script I use doesn't use the config in /etc/pbuilderrc for some reason. I uncommented the line with universe and so on. === Fujitsu sighs at the Compiz decision. [12:04] Fujitsu: it was expected [12:04] Fujitsu: the tracker decision is worse, I think [12:05] Oh, that sounds bad :( [12:05] Why are we condemning Intel users to no useful video support? [12:05] because it's shiny === Fujitsu reads the logs. [12:08] arthur-: what does this watch do in the dsss package? It points to the svn downloads. [12:17] So the reason we have it is because we'll get bad press if we don't? That's... a bit odd. [12:18] because all the cool kids are doing it [12:22] `I honestly don't think that the GL problems are a very big deal; 3D apps on Ubuntu are a tiny corner case' [12:22] This is encouraging. [12:26] which is why I turned off compiz on my desktop [12:26] I run it most of the time, but the CPU usage when playing videos is.. rather high. [12:26] And no scaling, it seems. === bigon [i=bigon@ubuntu/member/bigon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === astro76 [n=james@unaffiliated/astro76] has joined #ubuntu-motu