[01:34] <_abbenormal> hey all
[03:12] <yotux> has anyone had a blank screen my attempting to watch livetv
[03:17] <tgm4883_laptop> yes
[03:17] <tgm4883_laptop> how long do you wait before stopping it?
[03:17] <yotux> it stops its self after about a min or two
[03:18] <yotux> quite bother some
[03:18] <yotux> looking for a solution haven't found one yet
[03:19] <yotux> could it be a permission problem?
[03:20] <tgm4883_laptop> what tuner?
[03:20] <yotux> PVR-150 MCE
[03:21] <tgm4883_laptop> yotux, gotta eat dinner, back in about 20
[03:21] <tgm4883_laptop> did you follow a guide or anything
[03:21] <yotux> yes
[03:21] <yotux> enjoy dinner
[03:22] <tgm4883_laptop> which guide
[03:23] <yotux> http://parker1.co.uk/mythtv_ubuntu.php
[03:44] <tgm4883_laptop> yotux, feisty?
[03:45] <yotux> yes
[03:45] <yotux> I think I may have found the problem
[03:45] <yotux> log @ http://pastebin.ca/694899
[03:46] <yotux> still an issue
[03:48] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[03:49] <tgm4883_laptop> that is kinda odd
[03:49] <yotux> I think I used the wrong type of source
[03:50] <yotux> found message @ http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2006-November/157718.html
[03:50] <tgm4883_laptop> are you using the tuner or a different input
[03:52] <tgm4883_laptop> is this a fresh install?
[03:54] <yotux> tuner
[03:54] <yotux> I fixed my problem
[03:54] <yotux> I was using analog and should have been using Mpeg 2 source
[03:56] <tgm4883_laptop> sweet
[03:59] <yotux> Mpeg 2  is huge now I need to find out how to record as mpeg 4
[04:01] <tgm4883_laptop> well you may lose the hardware encoder feature if you do that
[04:09] <mythtv> hey all, is there some way to have gnome automatically play a dvd with mythfrontend if mythfrontend isnt already busy?
[04:09] <mythtv> i see that i can configure gnome to launch an app (such as mplayer or whatnot) when a dvd is inserted, but how to get it to use the mythfrontend dvd player?
[04:11] <tgm4883_laptop> mythtv, i think there is a setting for that in the media settings
[04:11] <tgm4883_laptop> something like watch cd drive
[04:11] <mythtv> oh!
[04:12] <mythtv> i'll check it out, thanks!
[04:29] <mythtv> ok, i enabled the "monitor dvd/cd" option, but now when i insert a dvd it opens the dvd in mythgallery
[04:30] <mythtv> this is a commercial dvd that should instead be playing a movie
[04:31] <mythtv> does anyone know how to properly configure mythfrontend to open a dvd with the dvd player?
[04:34] <Tari> do you have libdvdcss installed?
[04:35] <spiderworm> yes
[04:35] <spiderworm> i can play the dvd if i choose it normally from the menu :)
[04:35] <spiderworm> sorry i should have mentioned that
[04:50] <superm1_> spiderworm, that happens to me sometimes too
[04:50] <superm1_> depending on the dvd
[04:50] <superm1_> i haven't found a correlation yet
[04:53] <tgm4883_laptop> i bet the dvd's have the cover art on them
[05:00] <superm1_> oh that's possible
[05:00] <tgm4883_laptop> i wonder if you can prioritize it
[05:00] <tgm4883_laptop> if it has pics and video have it play the video instead
[05:00] <superm1_> well if i ever discover the correlation for sure, i'll see
[05:02] <yotux> Is it possible to install only a front end for mythtv and use a backend on a different system
[05:02] <tgm4883_laptop> yea
[05:02] <tgm4883_laptop> in fact, thats one of the great features
[05:03] <yotux> ok I am having a better but still bad day
[05:03] <yotux> I installed mythtv-frontend
[05:03] <tgm4883_laptop> thats like asking if you can get a room, with 4 walls
[05:03] <yotux> Mythtv will not launch
[05:03] <tgm4883_laptop> a planet, with gravity
[05:03] <yotux> ok
[05:04] <tgm4883_laptop> spagetti, with meatballs
[05:04] <tgm4883_laptop> peanut butter, with jelly
[05:04] <tgm4883_laptop> i can go on
[05:05] <tgm4883_laptop> why won't mythtv launch?
[05:05] <tgm4883_laptop> errors?
[05:05] <yotux> yes I assume
[05:06] <tgm4883_laptop> what are they?
[05:06] <tgm4883_laptop> start mythtv-frontend from the terminal
[05:07] <yotux> log @ http://pastebin.ca/695000
[05:07] <yotux> appears not to be setup correctly :(
[05:10] <tgm4883_laptop> on your backend, check /etc/mysql/my.cnf
[05:10] <tgm4883_laptop> and see what bind-address=
[05:10] <yotux> it is commented out
[05:11] <yotux> backend is at 192.168.0.12
[05:11] <tgm4883_laptop> ah
[05:11] <superm1_> /etc/mysql/conf.d/mythtv.cnf?
[05:11] <tgm4883_laptop> well theres your problem
[05:11] <tgm4883_laptop> why is it looking for the backend at 192.168.0.2
[05:11] <yotux> Im at 192.168.0.2
 backend is at 192.168.0.12
[05:11] <yotux> yes
[05:12] <tgm4883_laptop> and the frontend is?
[05:12] <yotux> 2
[05:12] <tgm4883_laptop> so the frontend is looking for the backend at 192.168.0.2 instead of 192.168.0.12
[05:12] <yotux> yes how can I fix this
[05:12] <tgm4883_laptop> ah
[05:13] <tgm4883_laptop> and the frontend is not opening at all right
[05:14] <yotux> yes
[05:15] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm.  superm1, any insight?  I thought the frontend opens anyway
[05:15] <superm1_> rm ~/.mythtv -rf
[05:15] <superm1_> sudo nano /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt
[05:15] <superm1_> and update things as they should be
[05:24] <yotux> superm1_ what is Realtime priority
[05:24] <superm1_> it is used when a process needs higher priority
[05:24] <superm1_> like if hidef is being decoded poorly
[05:24] <superm1_> or something
[06:08] <yotux> sluggish video over ehternet solutions
[08:27] <cann> test 
[08:55] <Ubotu> New bug: #139301 in lirc (main) "LIRCD starts up and dies right away" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139301
[10:19] <Daviey> bendailey: ping
[12:30] <laga> Ubotu: @schedule berlin
[12:42] <Daviey> @lart laga
[01:07] <laga> Ubotu: help
[01:08] <laga> woah, a plane just darkened my window for a second. scary.
[03:01] <DaveMorris> laga and superm1 is it usual for PPA to accept an upload but for it not to appear on launchpad for over 2hrs in any state?
[03:05] <laga> yes
[03:05] <laga> sometimes. ;)
[03:06] <DaveMorris> and you can't delete files which have been uploaded yet can you?
[03:06] <laga> you can't
[03:06] <laga> there's a ppa 101 at 15:00 utc
[03:06] <laga> in #launchpad i think
[03:07] <laga> i probably wont be able to attend
[03:07] <DaveMorris> cheers, I've got 200MB in mine already
[03:07] <laga> i've got over 2GiB in mine
[03:07] <laga> ;)
[03:08] <DaveMorris> I thought the limit was 1GiB?
[03:08] <laga> true
[03:08] <laga> but they're not clearing out old stuff yet
[03:09] <laga> alright, time to update my personal builds :/
[03:10] <laga> i guess i should consolidate my personal builds and the public ones. i can do with just one source tree if i use the PATCHES_TO_IGNORE stuff in the build script
[03:10] <laga> right now, i've got like 4 mythtv source trees :/
[03:11] <DaveMorris> thanks for the help laga, one more thing though, under https://edge.launchpad.net/%7Edave-greenacre/+archive it shows my last upload, but has a status of PendingRemoval but it never built
[03:16] <laga> i have no clue
[03:16] <laga> maybe a problem with the version number?
[03:21] <DaveMorris> perhaps, I finally sorted it out to be correct now though
[03:21] <laga> took me a while, too
[03:21] <laga> PPAs have some annoying quirks
[03:21] <DaveMorris> yeah I've been building the package on my local machine fine for ages
[03:22] <laga> but i need to take the GF to the zoos because she likes llamas.
[03:22] <laga> DaveMorris: write to launchpad-users
[03:22] <laga> an archive admin can clear it for you
[03:22] <DaveMorris> cheers
[04:43] <spoky99> hi all
[04:45] <spoky99> someone can help me? I have a configuration problem with LCD cristal fontz
[04:46] <spoky99> They work and... not work
[04:46] <laga> morning superm1
[04:46] <spoky99> hi laga
[04:46] <superm1> mornin
[04:46] <spoky99> hi superm1
[04:46] <laga> spoky99: you need to be more specific. although i'm not sure if we have any lcd users here
[04:47] <spoky99> I reand in some manual that superm1  know the cristalfontz
[04:47] <superm1> cristalfontz?
[04:47] <superm1> what are those?
[04:47] <spoky99> LCD cristal fontz
[04:47] <laga> fontz?
[04:47] <laga> http://www.indcjournal.com/archives/fonz.jpg
[04:48] <spoky99> :D
[04:49] <spoky99> CFontz is the driver
[04:49] <spoky99> LCDd the module
[04:49] <spoky99> :)
[04:51] <spoky99> Ihave one CrystalFontz CF634
[04:51] <spoky99> I'm trying to install it from one week
[04:52] <spoky99> Isee it working
[04:52] <spoky99> I restart the computer and... don't work
[04:52] <spoky99> lcdproc work
[04:52] <superm1> oh LCDd
[04:52] <spoky99> LCDd also
[04:52] <superm1> yeah there should be a new lcdproc avail
[04:52] <superm1> in gutsy
[04:53] <superm1> i had a minor patch for it some time back, but never verified it myself.
[04:53] <superm1> it should be in the archives though
[04:53] <spoky99> what "avail"?
[04:53] <spoky99> I read it
[04:54] <superm1> oh hm so it works up until when you restart
[04:54] <superm1> what's involved with the setup process for it?
[04:54] <spoky99> laga:  thanks for the help last week about lirk.. it work now :)
[04:54] <laga> spoky99: cool stuff
[04:55] <spoky99> before the restart.. work (whit some garbage in the screen... but work)
[04:55] <spoky99> after the restart.. nothing..
[04:55] <superm1> well garbage on the screen isn't really "working" :)
[04:55] <superm1> i'm not sure i can be too useful on these toys though since i've never played with one myself
[04:55] <laga> depends what TV stations you like...
[04:56] <laga> spoky99: see, if we had a donation system, you'd end up with 20 hdhomeruns and 15 lcds in your room. ;)
[04:56] <spoky99> yesterday I made a fsck into the disk after a error and.. when the computer is started it work.. I reboot the computer and.. they don't work
[04:56] <laga> err, i meant superm1
[04:56] <superm1> laga, haha i was just thinking that, but not such a large quantity
[04:57] <spoky99> ah
[04:57] <spoky99> I'had some lcd :P
[04:58] <superm1> ppa and packaging 101 in #launchpad for anyone interested is starting in 2 min
[04:58] <DaveMorris> PPA101 starting on the hour in #launchpad for anyone interested
[04:58] <DaveMorris> damm superm1 was quicker
[04:59] <laga> superm1: i added support for logging for mythfrontend/mythwelcome in ubuntu-mythtv-frontend and pushed it to the *trunk* branch. it's untested, i'll do that later. if you'd like, you can review it and yell at me if you don't like it. ;)
[04:59] <laga> cool
[04:59] <laga> didn't know i would be ablt to attend
[04:59] <superm1> laga, well i was wondering about it, what if its done as a normal user
[04:59] <superm1> do they have write access to said log file?
[05:00] <laga> superm1: if they're in the mythtv group: i think so
[05:00] <laga> at least that's the case on my vm
[05:00] <DaveMorris> just make the mythtv group have write access
[05:00] <laga> ls -al /var/log/mythtv
[05:02] <laga> zoo closing too early, so no llamas for the GF :/
[05:02] <superm1> haha
[05:02] <superm1> they're overrated anyway
[05:02] <DaveMorris> you should of gone earlier
[05:02] <DaveMorris> prob means no something something for laga though ;)
[05:02] <superm1> haha
[05:03] <laga> bah
[05:03] <laga> :P
[05:03] <spoky99> superm1: I could send you one lcd if you want
[05:03] <superm1> spoky99, you have extras?
[05:07] <spoky99> superm1: I work for a friend that have some of theese and had the problem to make it work..
[05:07] <superm1> well if you want to send one over my way to play with, i'll be glad to do what i can for it
[05:07] <spoky99> superm1: Igreat!!!
[05:08] <spoky99> superm1: tell me one address :D
[05:08] <DaveMorris> anyone know of any libs for me to draw lines in a jpeg from c++
[05:09] <superm1> spoky99, pm
[05:12] <spoky99> superm1: Icould regist my nickname
[05:12] <superm1> spoky99, yeah do that, and let me know once you do
[05:12] <superm1> and i''ll pm you
[05:14] <superm1> laga, for some reason i had a bad feeling his meeting was going to turn into the mess it already is
[05:15] <DaveMorris> yep
[05:16] <tgm4883> just address it superm1 and it will find it's way to him ;)
[05:17] <superm1> haha
[05:17] <laga> hehehehe
[05:17] <laga> superm1: i kinda know i was supposed tom hold my bitchin' till the end, but everyone had already started..
[05:18] <superm1> yeah
[05:18] <laga> right
[05:27] <DaveMorris> fuck the pony
[05:28] <laga> heh
[05:28] <laga> that's considered a crime in some countries, y'know
[05:29] <DaveMorris> well I learn't one thing about pbuilder
[05:29] <tgm4883> HVR-1300 OOB support in feisty?
[05:29] <superm1> laga, you have apturl in your gutsy vm installed by default right?
[05:31] <superm1> tgm4883, i wouldn't think so?
[05:31] <superm1> tgm4883, but dont know for sure
[05:32] <tgm4883> I think it needs cx88_dvb modprobed
[05:32] <tgm4883> cause that isn't loaded by default right
[05:32] <laga> superm1: no. why?
[05:32] <superm1> tgm4883, right
[05:32] <tgm4883> ok, thanks
[05:32] <superm1> laga, well its a really cool toy
[05:32] <superm1> and appears to be a dependency of ubuntu-desktop
[05:33] <laga> superm1: dont have ubuntu-desktop installed
[05:33] <superm1> laga, ah okay
[05:33] <laga> this is openbox with konsole, afaik ;)
[05:33] <superm1> well better yet, its a recommend of ubuntu-desktop
[05:33] <laga> btw, you were asked to create a new bug report wrt the unionfs b0rkage. did you do that? if yes, i'm gonna subscribe to that as well
[05:33] <superm1> it lets you install apps from a url on a webpage
[05:34] <superm1> laga, evand made one and i added comments to it
[05:34] <superm1> but my breakage might be something different
[05:34] <laga> yes
[05:34] <superm1> look at the bugs i'm subscribed to
[05:35] <laga> "Mario - looking at your dmesg output the bug seems to be at "... inode.c:1146!" while Evan's is at ". . . fanout.h:128!" and the stack traces are a bit different. Could you please submit a separate bug report about your issue?"
[05:35] <laga> that's why i was asking
[05:36] <superm1> ah, no i haven't made a sep bug yet
[05:46] <laga> DaveMorris: oh, you can only rebuild if the build is failed
[05:46] <superm1> its if its  FTBFS because of dependency
[05:46] <DaveMorris> yeah, but if it failed coz it had no source, you have to revison bump
[05:47] <laga> right, because why should you rebuild without a source?
[05:48] <DaveMorris> s/upload/uploaded
[05:49] <foxbuntu> DaveMorris, thanks...much better
[05:50] <DaveMorris> at least we didn't need the decontamination tent this time
[05:50] <foxbuntu> naw...that would be for FC8
[05:50] <foxbuntu> the Vista of Linux
[05:51] <laga> why do you call it that?
[05:51] <foxbuntu> because it is bloat ware like Vista
[05:51] <foxbuntu> and its generally annoying to deal with
[05:53] <road2elysium> isn't Fedora 8 not a Core build anymore?
[05:56] <foxbuntu> no I think its still FC
[05:56] <foxbuntu> I could be wrong however
[05:57] <superm1> no they dropped the core thing
[05:57] <superm1> its F8
[05:57] <road2elysium> I haven't heard of F8 being the Vista of linux but in retrospect I can see that being apt
[05:58] <foxbuntu> superm1, ok
[05:59] <superm1> in all honesty, my school switched over to rhel5 recently, being a user of it (not an admin), it's not bad
[05:59] <foxbuntu> rhel5 is alot different than F8
[05:59] <superm1> feels pretty close to home since it's got the same versions of a lot of things that are in gutsy
[05:59] <laga> wow
[05:59] <laga> that was a really great ppa101 session.
[05:59] <DaveMorris> So do you use a mythbuntu livecd to watch TV in the labs
[06:00] <superm1> DaveMorris, can't stream from off campus unfortunately
[06:00] <superm1> i'm trying to convince an on campus buddy of mine to setup a box
[06:00] <superm1> so that i can stream to my laptop from his box
[06:00] <laga> superm1: haha, great
[06:00] <DaveMorris> nice
[06:01] <foxbuntu> superm1, thats great...takes me back to the days of finding a new home for kingkoopa
[06:01] <superm1> i even gave him a pvr-350 to do it
[06:01] <superm1> and he still is slacking.
[06:03] <foxbuntu> superm1, by the sm1 standards...everyone is slacking
[06:03] <foxbuntu> :P
[06:04] <DaveMorris> foxbuntu: stop trying to suck up ;)
[06:04] <foxbuntu> but why DaveMorris ?
[06:04] <foxbuntu> superm1, is my hero!
[06:04] <road2elysium> pretty good job of it though... lol
[06:15] <tgm4883> arg
[06:16] <tgm4883> I should just stop trying and pull a Van Wilder
[06:16] <DaveMorris> I'm sure you can graduate
[06:16] <DaveMorris> just put the effort in
[06:17] <tgm4883> i'm putting the effor in, it's just taking me forever ;)
[06:17] <tgm4883> plus i screwed myself in the beginning
[06:17] <road2elysium> Graduating is the easy part.  Looking at your transcript might be hard though ;)
[06:17] <foxbuntu> tgm4883, its ok to be on the 9 year program for a 4 year degree :)
[06:17] <tgm4883> hmm, lets see
[06:18] <road2elysium> ouch. that's cold.  what is that.. a super super super super super senior?
[06:18] <tgm4883> when youve been there longer than some teachers......
[06:18] <superm1> tgm4883, you said that inline is broke on mythbuntu.org?
[06:18] <superm1> or that it only worked on testing site?
[06:18] <tgm4883> not really broke, just not working as designed
[06:19] <jono> hey folks
[06:19] <laga> hey jono
[06:19] <jono> I noticed there is not yet the reporting page for the team
[06:19] <tgm4883> unless someone put voodoo on it and it works now
[06:19] <jono> is it possible to set that up?
[06:19] <jono> see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingCommunity/TeamReporting for details
[06:19] <superm1> jono, its not the 20th yet :)
[06:19] <superm1> we've got time....
[06:20] <superm1> tgm4883, can you link me ot the testing page?
[06:20] <laga> ah, that's the spirit of true procrastination
[06:20] <superm1> i've got a few things i wanted to try wrg to that
[06:20] <tgm4883> superm1, you want the test site or the real site?
[06:20] <jono> superm1: read the link I gave - you set up the page first, and as you work add stuff to it, then on the 20th, flesh out the page with final stuff
[06:21] <jono> no rush though, its cool :)
[06:21] <superm1> tgm4883, well i wanted to put a page on the real site
[06:21] <jono> its just been easier for teams to add stuff as they work
[06:21] <superm1> that had  a few inline items
[06:21] <tgm4883> ah
[06:21] <tgm4883> http://www.mythbuntu.com/imgast
[06:21] <tgm4883> that page?
[06:21] <foxbuntu> superm1, got a strange issue with samba think you can help?
[06:21] <tgm4883> foxbuntu, samba is a bad word
[06:22] <superm1> tgm4883, yea that looks right
[06:22] <superm1> tgm4883, so the images just need to be scaled before hand right?
[06:22] <tgm4883> yea, otherwise it's still the full image, you can tell on the bottom 2 images if you right click and click view image on them
[06:23] <laga> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythplugins/+bug/138857
[06:23] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 138857 in mythplugins "Mytharchive calling ffmpeg with wrong resolution" [Undecided,Confirmed] 
[06:23] <laga> ^^ why cant i change the importance there?
[06:23] <tgm4883> it doesn't have to be perfect, but the resolution should be scaled down or it will take a long time to load
[06:25] <road2elysium> hey all; was wondering if someone could help me with a lirc question.  I can't get irw to output anything and /dev/input/eventX gives me binary
[06:25] <superm1> laga, because of an annoying bug with launchpad
[06:25] <superm1> that maintainers can't set their own priorities
[06:25] <laga> great
[06:25] <laga> ;)
[06:25] <road2elysium> I have a friend who likes to say: That's not a bug; it's a feature.
[06:26] <tgm4883> an undocumented feature
[06:26] <foxbuntu> road2elysium, you sound like you work in the office where I am
[06:26] <foxbuntu> everything is wrong so its just a design Feature of in-house IT Staff
[06:26] <laga> tgm4883: why undocumented? it's documented in the bug tracker
[06:27] <superm1> tgm4883, and can you refer to already uploaded images in the image gallery?
[06:27] <superm1> orno
[06:28] <tgm4883> bug trackers aren't usually what someone would call a documentation of features.  Plus, if it's in the bug tracker, then it is  a bug.  So it's not a bug, it's an undocumented feature.
[06:28] <tgm4883> superm1, yea, in fact, i dont' think there is another way
[06:29] <tgm4883> I don't know why it doesn't work as designed on the real site but does on the test site.  That is pretty strange.  I have done a little further testing with gallery, added another module and now it is really easy to add pictures.  But there is nothing saying that if we put gallery2 on mythbuntu.org that it wouldn't have the same issue as inline image module
[06:30] <superm1> good point
[06:30] <Daviey> geez.. us-ca has provided 240162.2965MB worth of ISO's this month
[06:32] <MythbuntuGuest91> anyone here ?
[06:32] <DaveMorris> laga: I eventually got to the bottom of the problem I was having.  It's  bug 139420
[06:32] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 139420 in soyuz "Upload system version check is inconsistent with the one done in Domination" [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139420
[06:33] <tgm4883> Yes we are Guest91
[06:33] <tgm4883> superm1, maybe we should put something like "leave a message, were here" in the topic
[06:34] <DaveMorris> or direct all questions at superm1 and laga
[06:34] <superm1> but we're not always here
[06:34] <laga> superm1: he's joking
[06:34] <laga> right?
[06:34] <laga> you're just joking?
[06:34] <laga> :/
[06:34] <tgm4883> DaveMorris is right, how about "put all questions in an email to <insert laga's email>"
[06:34] <MythbuntuGuest91> I'm really new to mythbuntu
[06:35] <tgm4883> someone is usually here
[06:35] <MythbuntuGuest09> Hi... Is anybody here
[06:35] <tgm4883> MythbuntuGuestt91, most people are new to Ubuntu
[06:35] <tgm4883> err mythbuntu
[06:35] <laga> MythbuntuGuest09: yes
[06:35] <MythbuntuGuest09> anybody?
[06:35] <MythbuntuGuest09> bah
[06:35] <MythbuntuGuest91> just got it installed last night and I was wondering if there a way to get out of myth and get a desktop
[06:35] <tgm4883> superm1, my case in point  <MythbuntuGuest91> anyone here ?  MythbuntuGuest09> Hi... Is anybody here
[06:35] <road2elysium> yes, just hit the sessions button
[06:35] <road2elysium> and go to admin session
[06:36] <tgm4883> I could go through the logs and find many more
[06:36] <laga> MythbuntuGuest09 <- ok, who of you was that? :)
[06:36] <MythbuntuGuest91> but it's set to autologin
[06:36] <laga> MythbuntuGuest91: exit out of mythtv
[06:36] <MythbuntuGuest91> how to I get the session ?
[06:36] <MythbuntuGuest91> ty
[06:36] <MythbuntuGuest91> I'll try that tonight
[06:36] <tgm4883> MythbuntuGuest91, what do you need at the desktop?
[06:36] <laga> MythbuntuGuest91: then gdm will come up
[06:36] <laga> MythbuntuGuest91: where you can login
[06:36] <MythbuntuGuest91> also what patched are applied to mythtv-20fixes ?
[06:37] <Daviey> MythbuntuGuest91: all those of the SVN -fixes branch
[06:37] <laga> MythbuntuGuest91: and then some for the right paths, but nothing big
[06:37] <Daviey> The changelog bugtraq will show it best
[06:38] <MythbuntuGuest91> ty
[06:38] <MythbuntuGuest91> can't wait to get mythup and running on my pvr
[06:39] <MythbuntuGuest91> thanks laga
[06:40] <MythbuntuGuest91> are you guys planning to create a vdr-ubuntu distro ?
[06:40] <tgm4883> video disk recorder?
[06:40] <MythbuntuGuest91> correct
[06:41] <tgm4883> whats the difference between that and mythbuntu?
[06:41] <laga> um
[06:41] <laga> tgm4883: VDR is a different software.
[06:41] <superm1> okay guys take a look: http://mythbuntu.org/existing-ubuntu
[06:41] <tgm4883> ah
[06:41] <laga> MythbuntuGuest91: we are making *mythbuntu*, for *mythtv*. not VDR.
[06:42] <MythbuntuGuest91> it's really light weight and looks more like a typical sat receiver
[06:42] <laga> MythbuntuGuest91: still, we're about mythtv.
[06:42] <MythbuntuGuest91> it's all good just curious
[06:42] <Daviey> superm1: you are pretty nifty with gimp no eh?
[06:42] <Daviey> *now
[06:43] <tgm4883> MythbuntuGuest91, are you talking about the case?
[06:43] <superm1> well those were pretty quick to whip up
[06:43] <tgm4883> or what?\
[06:43] <superm1> but the cool thing is that that link actually installs it!
[06:43] <laga> tgm4883: about the software.
[06:43] <MythbuntuGuest91> no I'm talking about the OSD
[06:43] <tgm4883> ok
[06:44] <tgm4883> superm1, doesn't work for me, but maybe I need gutsy :)
[06:44] <MythbuntuGuest91> all of the OSD with VDR are overlayed on top of the tv screen
[06:44] <superm1> tgm4883, read the pre-requisites
[06:44] <superm1> :)
[06:44] <Daviey> superm1: you rock!  didn't know "apt:" exisited
[06:44] <superm1> Daviey, i just confirmed it today with mvo
[06:44] <superm1> it was added to gutsy and is there by default now
[06:44] <tgm4883> well right, but it's basically telling me that it doesn't know what to do with apt: so is that a gutsy feature?
[06:44] <tgm4883> ah
[06:44] <laga> MythbuntuGuest91: not too long ago, VDR depended on full-featured DVB cards. mythtv is way more versatile.
[06:45] <tgm4883> superm1 is so good he just answered my question BEFORE I asked it
[06:45] <superm1> tgm4883, you can probably do the exact same thing on the gutsy pages
[06:45] <MythbuntuGuest91> I agree - TV-out using Xinelib or softdevice is far from perfect and require a lot of tweaking
[06:45] <superm1> Daviey, do you know how we can add a click counter for people clicking that link?
[06:46] <Daviey> hmm
[06:46] <superm1> maybe a redirect to apt:mythbuntu-control-centre
[06:46] <MythbuntuGuest91> and those config files are a pain in the @$$
[06:46] <superm1> because this will skew our download numbers
[06:46] <Daviey> superm1: yeah... i'll whip that up
[06:46] <Daviey> need 20mins to finish writing somethig
[06:46] <MythbuntuGuest91> That's why I was asking for a pre-configured distro
[06:46] <superm1> k
[06:46] <laga> MythbuntuGuest91: analog tv doesn't work as well AFAIR, and i...
[06:47] <laga> can we remove the java client?
[06:47] <laga> PLEASE?
[06:47] <laga> kthx.
[06:47] <tgm4883> we could, but then we would have to replace it with someone's email address :)
[06:48] <laga> ok
[06:48] <laga> i'll jus exercise my /ignore then
[06:48] <laga> i still cant believe i signed the ubuntu code of coduct ;)
[06:48] <laga> conduct*
[06:49] <tgm4883> I'm looking at that VDR software and IMO, it looks like crap
[06:49] <tgm4883> maybe there are better/newer screenshots around
[06:50] <laga> it's not supposed to look good..
[06:50] <laga> it's really popular in germany
[06:52] <road2elysium> what's the ubuntu code of conduct?
[06:53] <tgm4883> It says that you will only use ubuntu and kill anyone you see not using ubuntu
[06:53] <tgm4883> although
[06:53] <tgm4883> i have been known to kid
[06:54] <road2elysium> tgm, that would be an awesome code of conduct.  they should specify varying levels of death and mayhem for different distros
[06:54] <laga> road2elysium: it says, among other things, that you have to be nice to people
[06:55] <tgm4883> and being nice to  people is in direct violation of my code of conduct
[06:55] <laga> yes
[06:55] <tgm4883> just ask the french lady who warned me on the forums
[06:55] <laga> i dont really go for all that "huggy feeling" crap.
[06:55] <laga> some people just suck. </rant>
[06:55] <tgm4883> ahhh, someone just needs a hug :)
[06:56] <road2elysium> tgm, that might make him start <rant> again...
[06:57] <tgm4883> laga is probably plotting my demise right now
[06:58] <laga> now
[06:58] <laga> s/now/no/
[06:58] <laga> just getting frustrated with bzr and the mess on my harddisk again ;)
[07:02] <road2elysium> i'm frustrating myself with lirc atm
[07:02] <laga> oh
[07:02] <laga> that's a great thing to get frustrated over
[07:02] <superm1> road2elysium, were you the apple remote guy yesterday?
[07:02] <laga> in just set up irkick for fun and it was painless, btw
[07:02] <laga> s/in/i/
[07:02] <road2elysium> superm1: yes
[07:03] <superm1> road2elysium, so no luck off the /dev/input/eventX.... that's no fun
[07:04] <laga> superm1: do you want me to revamp the weekly build script a bit so you can build -fixes for gutsy as well as for feisty?
[07:04] <superm1> laga, is it difficult to do at this point?
[07:04] <superm1> i didn't imagine it would be?
[07:04] <laga> superm1: i was gonna refactor it a bit since it's getting really ugly
[07:04] <road2elysium> superm1: nope, lircd doesn't crash anymore.  But irw gives me nothing.  Cat-ing the event gives me binary.  Interestingly enough, trying to change a key binding in the Myth ui, recognizes that something was pressed but the 'pressed key not recognized'
[07:05] <laga> superm1: of course it's not hard to do, but it's getting ugly, especially with the special cases for trunk
[07:05] <superm1> laga, have at it then :)
[07:05] <superm1> road2elysium, perhaps is this input device being added as a HID handler to X?
[07:05] <road2elysium> lol, that smiley impends additional mess
[07:07] <road2elysium> superm1: that lost me. although irw did say something about not recognizing the event or a /dev/lirc symlink to that event as a lirc device
[07:07] <road2elysium> superm1: can't remember if that was irw or irrecord
[07:08] <road2elysium> superm1: t'was irrecord
[07:08] <superm1> road2elysium, can you see if there is an appleir module?
[07:08] <superm1> or better yet i know there is
[07:08] <superm1> is it loaded
[07:09] <superm1> because i see this: http://www.nabble.com/Re:-Lirc-on-Mac-Mini-t4255320.html
[07:09] <road2elysium> superm1: lsmod | grep appleir shows an appleir
[07:10] <superm1> can you check and make sure lirc is starting up in userspace mode?
[07:11] <superm1> because there (used to be) and macmini mode i think
[07:11] <superm1> you can check in /etc/lirc/hardware.conf
[07:13] <road2elysium> superm1: which line specifies userspace mode?
[07:13] <superm1> DEVICE=""
[07:15] <road2elysium> superm1: my device line specifies /dev/input/eventX
[07:15] <road2elysium> superm1: or the /dev/input/by-path
[07:15] <superm1> oh my bad
[07:15] <superm1> DRIVER=""
[07:15] <superm1> that's what i meant
[07:15] <road2elysium> Driver ='macmini'
[07:15] <superm1> yea change that
[07:15] <superm1> to just DRIVER=""
[07:15] <aveces> Hi all...
[07:16] <road2elysium> aveces: hello
[07:17] <road2elysium> superm1: going to give that a try and restart myth-front
[07:19] <road2elysium> superm1: that seems to crash lircd on login
[07:19] <superm1> hm
[07:20] <superm1> okay one more thing
[07:21] <superm1> try driver = dev/input
[07:21] <road2elysium> superm1: yah, i was about to try that. Was looking at the supported driver list.  Crossing my fingers.
[07:23] <road2elysium> superm1: lircd doesn't crash at least ;)  but irw doesn't show any codes
[07:23] <superm1> well step in the right direction
[07:24] <superm1> in that example he doesnt show irw tests at all
[08:06] <superm1> foxbuntu, can you fix the usplash before we announce our next disk?
[08:06] <superm1> in theory all of the issues are resolved now except for that unionfs problem, so we'll just need to do some testing after its fixed and then announce
[08:49] <foxbuntu> superm1, I will sure take another stab at it
[08:49] <foxbuntu> how much time do I have?
[09:09] <foxbuntu> superm1, you there now?
[09:17] <Deffcon> he guys
[09:20] <laga> hi
[09:44] <Deffcon> new svn trunk ?
[09:44] <Deffcon> for gutsy
[09:46] <laga> uh
[09:46] <laga> depends on what you're using now
[09:46] <laga> i fixed the mythweb warnings, btw!
[10:11] <tgm4883> arg
[10:12] <tgm4883> oh well
[10:12] <tgm4883> SD just lowered their price
[10:12] <tgm4883> $15/6 months now
[10:13] <laga> cool
[10:13] <laga> ah, wait
[10:13] <laga> oh no, i can't afford that!
[10:15] <foxbuntu> tgm4883, is that retro active?
[10:15] <tgm4883> hope so, i just paid for it < 1 week ago
[10:15] <foxbuntu> cuz I paid 15 for 3 months
[10:15] <laga> cheapskates
[10:15] <foxbuntu> it better be
[10:16] <tgm4883> laga must have money comming out the wazoo
[10:16] <foxbuntu> laga, well...$15 is well..not much more than lunch usually, but still its the priciple
[10:16] <tgm4883> ;)
[10:16] <tgm4883> principle?  isn't that just $15?  Is there an interest rate too ;)
[10:17] <foxbuntu> yea
[10:17] <foxbuntu> tgm4883, finances are fun
[10:17] <foxbuntu> YAY!
[10:17] <tgm4883> i just installed gnucash
[10:18] <cooper77_> it is retro active --> http://forums.schedulesdirect.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=315
[10:18] <foxbuntu> YAY
[10:18] <foxbuntu> thanks cooper77
[10:18] <cooper77_> no problem
[10:19] <foxbuntu> err
[10:19] <foxbuntu> maybe tgm4883 wasn't making a song reference there
[10:19] <tgm4883> sure why not
[10:32] <superm1_> well so SD prices went down
[10:32] <superm1_> its $2.5/mo now
[10:33] <superm1_> and its in 6 month increments
[10:33] <superm1_> starting today, so all of the time passed thus far is free
[10:35] <foxbuntu> superm1_, when are you planning the next iso build?
[10:35] <superm1_> foxbuntu, as soon as unionfs is fixed in the kernel and when DaveMorris commits his xfce changes
[10:36] <superm1_> laga and I have everything else resolved as far as we know
[10:36] <foxbuntu> superm1_, do we need a xfce splash added to the artwork?
[10:36] <Deffcon> he laga with trunk 1448 i had the same compiled against problems
[10:36] <Deffcon> with mythplugins
[10:39] <foxbuntu> superm1_, I have something we could try out on mythbuntu.org
[10:39] <superm1_> what's that?
[10:41] <foxbuntu> Google Analytics
[10:41] <superm1_> why?
[10:41] <foxbuntu> just cuz its pretty slick...and it would give us lots o detail about our users
[10:43] <superm1_> well speaking of which
[10:43] <superm1_> http://www.google.com/trends?q=mythbuntu%2Cknoppmyth
[10:43] <superm1_> that's pretty interesting where we are at right now
[10:43] <foxbuntu> taking the lead!
[10:43] <foxbuntu> superm1_, you have code access to the page right?
[10:44] <superm1_> code access?
[10:44] <superm1_> as in editing the pages?
[10:44] <foxbuntu> yes
[10:44] <foxbuntu> editing the code
[10:44] <superm1_> yeah
[10:45] <foxbuntu> can you just add the tracker to the bottom of the main page for me?
[10:45] <foxbuntu> its just a JS code sinpet
[10:45] <foxbuntu> snipet
[10:45] <superm1_> to just the main page?
[10:45] <foxbuntu> yea
[10:46] <foxbuntu> for now
[10:46] <superm1_> that's a little more work since the main page is actually an aggregator
[10:46] <superm1_> of a lot of other pages
[10:46] <foxbuntu> well you just drop it in the html right above </body>
[10:48] <tgm4883> foxbuntu, i think you forgot mythdora, and this shows a little better i think http://www.google.com/trends?q=mythbuntu%2Cknoppmyth%2Cmythdora&ctab=0&geo=all&date=2007&sort=0
[10:49] <superm1_> foxbuntu, drupal generates all those html pages on the fly
[10:49] <foxbuntu> oh
[10:49] <superm1_> its all php based
[10:49] <foxbuntu> there should be an html wrapper tho I think
[10:49] <foxbuntu> maybe not
[10:49] <tgm4883> what does the code do foxbuntu?
[10:50] <superm1_> http://drupal.org/node/49388
[10:50] <superm1_> if anything
[10:50] <foxbuntu> just a tracker so it can watch what traffic hits it
[10:50] <tgm4883> ah
[10:50] <tgm4883> let me add it and we'll check it out
[10:50] <superm1_> well i'll setup my google account to link to it
[10:51] <foxbuntu> superm1_, I have an account already for it
[10:51] <foxbuntu> I will send over the info
[10:52] <foxbuntu> superm1_, I just added you to it
[10:52] <superm1_> okay well let me install the drupal plugin
[10:52] <superm1_> give me a sec
[10:52] <foxbuntu> your gmail account should have access to it now
[10:52] <foxbuntu> k
[10:55] <tgm4883> http://www.google.com/trends?q=mythbuntu%2Cknoppmyth%2Cmythdora%2Clinuxmce&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0
[10:55] <tgm4883> this is pretty sweet
[10:56] <superm1_> brb
[10:56] <tgm4883> arg
[10:56] <foxbuntu> tgm4883, here is the real google trend
[10:56] <tgm4883>  26,500 for foxbuntu  6,340 for tgm4883
[10:56] <foxbuntu> http://www.google.com/trends?q=mythbuntu%2Cknoppmyth%2Cmythdora%2Clinuxmce%2Cporn&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0
[10:57] <tgm4883> nice
[10:58] <tgm4883> hmm, i find this a little suspect
[10:58] <tgm4883> http://www.google.com/trends?q=porn%2Cgoogle&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0
[10:58] <foxbuntu> i would say so
[10:58] <tgm4883> looks like around 2005 someone was like wtf, we are not winning?  and fixed it
[10:58] <foxbuntu> lol
[10:59] <tgm4883> heh, http://www.google.com/trends?q=porn%2Cfoxbuntu&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0
[11:00] <foxbuntu> I dont even show up on that one
[11:00] <foxbuntu> :(
[11:01] <foxbuntu> lol
[11:01] <tgm4883> nope
[11:01] <tgm4883> either that
[11:01] <tgm4883> or foxbuntu and porn are on the exact same path
[11:01] <foxbuntu> hey
[11:01] <tgm4883> something you want to tell us?
[11:01] <foxbuntu> dont tell people that
[11:01] <tgm4883> bow chicka bow wow
[11:01] <foxbuntu> yea...I am dead sexy
[11:01] <foxbuntu> lol
[11:02] <foxbuntu> my new distro release of Ubuntu...FoxxxBuntu
[11:02] <foxbuntu> the XXX Edition
[11:02] <foxbuntu> huge seller I say
[11:02] <tgm4883> does it ship with napkins?
[11:02] <foxbuntu> yes...and free Lube
[11:03] <tgm4883> oh this convo is going down fast
[11:03] <foxbuntu> lol
[11:03] <foxbuntu> yes...indeed...time to quit
[11:03] <tgm4883> i feel dirty
[11:03] <tgm4883> i need to take a shower
[11:03] <foxbuntu> I am dirty
[11:04] <tgm4883> tell us something we dont know
[11:05] <foxbuntu> ...sorry does not compute
[11:05] <foxbuntu> well I better get moving...I gotta meet a contractor at the house...
[11:05] <foxbuntu> catch you guys later
[11:09] <DaveMorris> superm1 or laga can you explain what an epoch is?  As mentioned in bug 139420 I think it's just the 1: part before my version but whats the point of it
[11:09] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 139420 in soyuz "PPA upload versions are not being verified" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/139420
[11:27] <Daviey> superm1_: is "apt:" new in gutsy?
[11:27] <Daviey> I'm currently under feisty and firefox doesn't know how to handle it
[11:37] <Daviey> DaveMorris: you need to either get a dish washer or ask Louise niceky
[11:37] <Daviey> *nicely
[11:37] <DaveMorris> hehe
[11:37] <Daviey> DaveMorris: are you running gutsy atm?
[11:38] <DaveMorris> I hate washing up
[11:38] <DaveMorris> On my laptop
[11:38] <Daviey> laptop on & handy?
[11:39] <DaveMorris> give us a sec
[11:39] <Daviey> If it aint handy, don't worry
[11:39] <DaveMorris> it's powering up, what are you after?
[11:40] <Daviey> Just wanted a URL checked, that doesn't seem to work in feisty
[11:40] <Daviey> superm1_'s magic
[11:40] <DaveMorris> whats the url, I'll check in feisty whilst we wait
[11:41] <Daviey> first, click the "Install Mythbuntu" pic:
[11:41] <Daviey> http://mythbuntu.org/existing-ubuntu
[11:41] <Daviey> Firefox moan?
[11:41] <DaveMorris> yep
[11:41] <Daviey> same here
[11:42] <Daviey> I'm guessing it works in gutsy
[11:43] <Daviey> brb
[11:45] <DaveMorris> it works in gutsy
[11:47] <laga> DaveMorris: an epoch is needed when the version number (often upstream) changes in a way that it's less than the previous one
[11:48] <laga> so you add an epoch
[11:48] <DaveMorris> ok that makes sense, it got me around the bug anyway :)
[11:51] <laga> i want that unionfs bug in the gutsy kernel fixed.
[11:55] <Daviey> DaveMorris: does this work? http://mythbuntu.org/download/getmythbuntu.php
[11:56] <laga> Daviey: what is it supposed to do?
[11:56] <Daviey> Fwd to the same APT: link
[11:56] <Daviey> should work in gutsy.. hopefully
[11:57] <laga> ah
[11:57] <Daviey> DaveMorris: ^
[12:06] <superm1_> Daviey,
[12:06] <superm1_> apt: is new on gutsy
[12:07] <laga> *yawns*
[12:07] <Daviey> superm1_: keep up at the back
[12:07] <Daviey> We established this :D
[12:07] <superm1_> it doesnt look that that link redirects?
[12:07] <Daviey> hmm
[12:08] <Daviey> if you 'wget' the link - it seems to redirect
[12:08] <superm1_> i'm on feisty right this moment, but that didn't pull up anything
[12:08] <Daviey> ah..
[12:08] <Daviey> i'm not expecting it to work on feisty
[12:08] <laga> i can try it if you need testers
[12:08] <superm1_> well but shouldnt it redirect to apt:mythbuntu-control-centre
[12:09] <superm1_> and say it cant get it
[12:09] <superm1_> on feisty
[12:09] <Daviey> yeah.. looking into that
[12:09] <superm1_> does it work on gutsy then or no?
[12:09] <Daviey> but if that works on gutsy, then i can show an error on non gutsy
[12:10] <superm1_> well too bad i'm not at home to double check on my gutsy box
[12:10] <Daviey> waiting for DaveMorris to tell me
[12:11] <tgm4883> what are we checking?
[12:11] <superm1_> do you have code checking for the OS?
[12:11] <superm1_> to make sure its gutsy?
[12:12] <Daviey> i will add that, if this works
[12:13] <superm1_> how can you check that?
[12:13] <superm1_> by the referral string?
[12:16] <DaveMorris> no that php thing didn't work
[12:16] <Daviey> superm1_: yeah referal string
[12:16] <superm1_> okay google analytics is live now
[12:16] <Daviey> DaveMorris: you git.. that was supposed to work
[12:16] <Daviey> plan b then..
[12:17] <superm1_> this looks like it will gather a lot of really neat data
[12:18] <tgm4883> and what is ga doing for us again?
[12:19] <tgm4883> well, where is it, maybe i can see the neat data :)
[12:19] <Daviey> tgm4883: currently hidden on mythbuntu.org
[12:19] <superm1_> tgm4883, do you have a google account?
[12:19] <superm1_> i'll link you in to it
[12:19] <superm1_> so you can see
[12:19] <tgm4883> :(
[12:19] <tgm4883> :)
[12:19] <tgm4883> ok
[12:20] <tgm4883> but not in the lasso
[12:20] <superm1_> Daviey, whats your google acct info
[12:20] <superm1_> i'll add you too then
[12:20] <Daviey> not sure.. wait 1
[12:21] <Daviey> superm1_: "davieywalker"
[12:21] <superm1_> Daviey, @ googlemail.com?
[12:21] <superm1_> or gmail.com
[12:21] <Daviey> erm
[12:22] <superm1_> ok tgm4883 and DaveMorris your added
[12:22] <Daviey> googlemail.com i think
[12:22] <superm1_> k Daviey
[12:23] <superm1_> added
[12:24] <Daviey> How do we see it?
[12:24] <superm1_> Daviey, can you add the google analytics javascript to the download php script?
[12:24] <Daviey> should be able to
[12:24] <laga> hansi.urpils@gmail.com
[12:24] <superm1_> we can count goals then
[12:24] <laga> add me into, plzkthx
[12:24] <superm1_> for downloads right through this
[12:24] <superm1_> ok laga
[12:25] <superm1_> Daviey, https://www.google.com/analytics/home/admin?rid=4891129&aid=1121&scid=2602400&vid=1104&prid=4891129
[12:25] <superm1_> that is where the javascript thing is
[12:25] <tgm4883> heh, this is pretty sweet http://www.google.com/trends?q=fedora,+ubuntu,+suse
[12:26] <Daviey> superm1_: That link tried to get me to sign up
[12:27] <Daviey> you might have to email / pastebin it
[12:27] <tgm4883> Daviey, are you signed into google?
[12:27] <superm1_> Daviey, you have to sign into google
[12:27] <Daviey> i am
[12:27] <tgm4883> it took me right in there
[12:27] <Daviey> account = davieywalker@googlemail.com  rihgt?
[12:28] <Daviey> right*
[12:29] <superm1_> davieywalker@googlemail.com
[12:29] <superm1_> is what its listed as
[12:29] <Daviey> hmm odd
[12:29] <tgm4883> interesting
[12:29] <tgm4883> it lets me sign on with my weilandhomes.com email address too
[12:30] <tgm4883> ah, it won't let me sign into superm1_'s link though
[12:31] <tgm4883> superm1_, can you remove the tgmcomputerguy email i gave you and add the weilandhomes.com one
[12:31] <Daviey> gutsy users: http://mythbuntu.org/download/getmythbuntu.php
[12:33] <laga> hum
[12:33] <laga> gutsy vm borken
[12:33] <DaveMorris> superm1 can you tell me why this was rejected - http://www.pastebin.ca/696488 - line 31 dosen't make sense to me
[12:33] <superm1_> tgm4883, do you have a google account at weilandhomes?
[12:33] <superm1_> it needs to be a google account
[12:34] <DaveMorris> or laga and others familiay with ppa
[12:34] <tgm4883> im logged into igoogle with thomas@weilandhomes.com
[12:34] <superm1_> DaveMorris, that looks odd
[12:34] <laga> DaveMorris: do you really have that "." in there?
[12:34] <tgm4883> so i would say yes, unless your saying it has to be a @gmail.com
[12:34] <superm1_> it looks like it should work
[12:34] <DaveMorris> yeah, but thats what it's saying it should be
[12:35] <DaveMorris> or is that prob a bug on the email
[12:35] <superm1_> tgm4883, its updated
[12:36] <superm1_> Daviey, that works as expected on feisty
[12:36] <superm1_> that it tries to redirect to the right url
[12:36] <Daviey> cool
[12:36] <tgm4883> Daviey, are you able to access the google analytics yet?
[12:37] <superm1_> Daviey, once you get into google analytics, if you add the javascript that they describe there, i'll set two goals
[12:37] <superm1_> one for the iso image download
[12:37] <tgm4883> superm1_ just updated my email and I had to log out and back in to get it to work
[12:37] <superm1_> and one for the control centre install
[12:37] <Daviey> okay.. i'll just set the user-agent stuff for getmythbuntu.php
[12:38] <Daviey> then add what google stuff
[12:39] <laga> :/
[12:39] <superm1_> click check status
[12:39] <Daviey> oh no
[12:39] <superm1_> and there is javascript
[12:40] <laga> BTW, getmythbuntu.php seems to work here.
[12:40] <tgm4883> on a different note, I think it is pretty spiffy that the advanced tab closes mythbuntu-control-centre when you click on synaptic, update manager, or terminal, then when you exit it opens it right back up
[12:40] <tgm4883> great work superm1_
[12:40] <laga> yup
[12:40] <laga> lovely.
[12:41] <superm1_> thanks tgm4883 :)
[12:42] <superm1_> Daviey, is that what the final url will be
[12:42] <superm1_> for the redirect to control centre?
[12:42] <Daviey> superm1_: guess so
[12:42] <Daviey> unless you can think of something better
[12:42] <superm1_> http://mythbuntu.org/download/getcontrolcentre.php
[12:42] <superm1_> maybe?
[12:42] <superm1_> i guess it doesnt really matter
[12:43] <superm1_> the other goal url is http://mythbuntu.org/download right?
[12:44] <Daviey> yeah
[12:44] <Daviey> no
[12:44] <superm1_> no?
[12:44] <Daviey> maybe -  http://mythbuntu.org/download/
[12:44] <superm1_> does it matter?
[12:44] <Daviey> for some reason i thought it was "downloads"
[12:44] <superm1_> trailing /
[12:45] <Daviey> dunno
[12:45] <superm1_> okay i'll leave it off
[12:45] <superm1_> i think the goal matches a regex anyhow
[12:46] <superm1_> this with any luck this will alleviate the need for downloads.txt in ~mythbuntu
[12:48] <superm1_> DaveMorris, how are xfce things looking?
[12:49] <Daviey> DaveMorris: still got gutsy up?
[12:49] <superm1_> do you at least have a list of packages to add to the mythbuntu-meta package?
[12:49] <superm1_> Daviey, it tells me that i need Gutsy
[12:49] <superm1_> when i try :)
[12:49] <Daviey> cool
[12:49] <superm1_> but its missing the javascript tracker in the source
[12:49] <Daviey> ugly at the moment - but it should work for gutsy
[12:50] <Daviey> missing what?
[12:50] <superm1_> the tracking stuff
[12:50] <superm1_> i mentioned
[12:50] <Daviey> yeah.. at the moment
[12:50] <superm1_> the little javascript block
[12:50] <Daviey> patience eh?
[12:50] <laga> superm1_: hacked at the weekly build script some more.. we're now sleeping 2 hours between the creation of gutsy and feisty. ugly but it ought to work
[12:51] <superm1_> "we're now sleeping 2 hours between"?
[12:51] <Daviey> superm1_: that link takes me to https://www.google.com/analytics/home/provision
[12:51] <Daviey> :S
[12:51] <Daviey> laga: surely not a "sleep X" ?
[12:51] <superm1_> Daviey, well log into google analytics
[12:51] <superm1_> and click check status
[12:52] <superm1_> and then you can find the javascript block
[12:52] <laga> superm1_: sorry, i'm tired. i added a "sleep 7200" to make sure the orig.tar.gz is published
[12:52] <superm1_> ah
[12:52] <superm1_> sweet
[12:56] <laga> i'll start to translate the control centre now
[12:57] <superm1_> laga, hopefully its written in a translatable fashion
[12:57] <superm1_> i dont know that i did very good at that
[12:58] <laga> i have no clue
[12:58] <laga> i'll find out
[12:58] <laga> http://www.virtualhosting.com/blog/2007/10-ways-a-programmer-can-improve-his-or-her-sex-life/
[12:58] <laga> ^^ if anyone is feeling a bit lonely during the nights
[12:59] <laga> oh
[12:59] <laga> that's actually not a serious article.
[01:00] <tgm4883> heh, I already do all that
[01:02] <laga> lucky guy
[01:02] <superm1_> Daviey, um
[01:02] <superm1_> your saying the page requiresUbuntu Gutsy Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.6) Gecko/20061201 (CK-IBM) Firefox/2.0.0.6 (Ubuntu-feisty)
[01:03] <superm1_> what happens when the version changes :)
[01:03] <superm1_> or the next release after gutsy :)
[01:03] <tgm4883> then "No soup for you !!"
[01:03] <superm1_> haha
[01:03] <superm1_> perhaps just search the string for Ubuntu-gutsy
[01:03] <superm1_> and Ubuntu-hardy
[01:04] <superm1_> because also that breaks on amd64
[01:04] <Daviey> superm1_: I'm debugging
[01:04] <superm1_> ah okay
[01:04] <Daviey> Doesn't currently work at all
[01:05] <superm1_> oh
[01:05] <superm1_> boo-urns
[01:06] <tgm4883> wtf
[01:06] <tgm4883> do you guys have a few more sites being watched now in GA?
[01:06] <DaveMorris> superm1 your doing it the wrong way
[01:06] <superm1_> huh?
[01:07] <laga> zomg
[01:07] <tgm4883> arg
[01:07] <laga> superm1_: did you ever remove stuff in po/ in mythbuntu-control-centre? i can't find any evidence in launchpad, but some things were removed when i ran bzr up
[01:07] <DaveMorris> if (firefox) {
[01:07] <DaveMorris>   if(brezzy || dapper || edgy || feisty) {}
[01:07] <DaveMorris>  else {}
[01:07] <DaveMorris> }
[01:08] <superm1_> laga, i dont remember touching it
[01:08] <DaveMorris> that wahy you don't need to update it with each new version
[01:08] <laga> superm1_: *shrug*
[01:08] <laga> superm1_: i'll just add it back
[01:08] <superm1_> DaveMorris, good call
[01:08] <superm1_> i'm a bit worried though on how to generate all the strings used in the control centre
[01:11] <tgm4883> superm1, did you have to add the js code in advanced for drupal for the google analytics?
[01:11] <laga> superm1_: you run "make".
[01:11] <laga> superm1_: i don't remember how i did it, but i just ripped out stuff from restricted-manager and it seems to be ok.
[01:11] <superm1_> tgm4883, you dont need to
[01:11] <superm1_> tgm4883, you just need to add the google account number
[01:11] <superm1_> laga, i swear i never touched that stuff
[01:11] <superm1_> but i remember you putting it in
[01:12] <superm1_> do you see it in the revision number changes?
[01:12] <superm1_> tgm4883, if you add it there too, it will double count
[01:12] <superm1_> bad idear
[01:12] <laga> superm1_: no
[01:12] <laga> superm1_: but it's ok, it was nothing important
[01:12] <tgm4883> ah, i see it now, it was just taking forever to realize that it was on there
[01:16] <Daviey> superm1_: Apt: doesn't work in konq
[01:17] <superm1_> Nope
[01:17] <superm1_> just FF