[01:15] <nikolam> sudo nano etc. On Xubuntu u should use sudo mousepad
[01:15] <kiosk> i like pico
[01:16] <nikolam> kiosk: check your internet connection / firewall settings etc. Its strange
[01:16] <thrashy> thanks nikolam
[01:16] <kiosk> I run firestarter firewall  I'll try stopping it
[01:17] <nikolam> firestarte should not be the problem
[01:17] <kiosk> also thrashy what about apt-get install gedit?
[01:17] <nikolam> if policy>outbound traffic policy is permisive by default then, that`s no problem
[01:18] <nikolam> kiosk. psss, this is xubuntu ge have our little own, mousepad :)
[01:20] <nikolam> kiosk try one of them.. servers. and try apt-get update from console. are you running 7.04?
[01:20] <kiosk> nikolam: I think it was my firewall it got much further than before on Synaptic reload list
[01:20] <kiosk> still stuck at 23 of 24 though
[01:21] <kiosk> I think i am 7.04
[01:21] <kiosk> nikolam: how do I tell?
[01:21] <nikolam> Just select one randomly , one you think that is near.
[01:22] <kiosk> nikolam:  I will try another one
[01:22] <kiosk> firewall is off now
[01:23] <nikolam> Firewall should not be the problem. If it is permissive on outgoing connactions.
[01:23] <kiosk> nikolam: I used to permit and I haven't changed the settings
[01:24] <kiosk> I am back where I started now.
[01:24] <kiosk> New server only  gets to 7 out of 15
[01:25] <nikolam> just select one by hand.
[01:25] <kiosk> nikolam: best one so far was carroll.aset.psu.edu
[01:25] <kiosk> nikolam: but still got stuck refreshing near the last file
[01:25] <nikolam> ohhh. dont get so detailed. just select d** thing :)
[01:27] <kiosk> nikolam: tried like 10 servers allready
[01:27] <kiosk> nikolam: all say            http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu/pub/linux/ubuntu/archive/dists/feisty/Release.gpg: Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[01:28] <nikolam> khm..
[01:28] <kiosk> hmmm
[01:28] <nikolam> Do you use proxy or something.
[01:28] <kiosk> I tried to install one yes
[01:28] <kiosk> but it didn't work
[01:28] <kiosk> Or so I though
[01:28] <kiosk> Or so I thought
[01:28] <nikolam> Dns resolving should not return 127.0.0.1 on every request
[01:28] <kiosk> I bet that is it
[01:29] <nikolam> I found it
[01:30] <nikolam> Go to synaptic
[01:30] <kiosk> nikolam: ok
[01:30] <nikolam> and then settings>preferences>network> and select direct connection to internet.
[01:31] <nikolam> If that dont work try to uninstall that proxy you have
[01:31] <nikolam> And focus on dns resolving.
[01:31] <kiosk> nikolam: it was allready set direct  -   I guess I need to uninstall anon-proxy
[01:31] <kiosk> nikolam: anon-proxy asked me a question when I installed about dns I think
[01:31] <nikolam> nslookup www.yahoo.com should return 87.248.113.14, not 127.0.0.1
[01:32] <nikolam> uninstall d** thing :) and start your firewall , it should protect you all the time
[01:32] <kiosk> nikolam: It does return that IP
[01:32] <kiosk> nikolam: I will
[01:33] <kiosk> nikolam: Firewall on captain!  : )
[01:33] <kiosk> nikolam: Thanks for so much help.  I was screwed.
[01:33] <kiosk> nikolam: LOL
[01:34] <nikolam> maybe if you try to reboot after that and you definitely should check dns resolving etc.
[01:34] <nikolam> Then, i am screwed :)
[01:38] <kiosk> nikolam: yep I have to reboot
[01:38] <kiosk> Still trying to go to 127.0.0.1
[01:39] <kiosk> nikolam: If I can't come back thanks again for your help
[01:39] <kiosk> brb
[02:02] <kiosk> anybody know nikolam?
[02:03] <kiosk> wanted to thank he/she for helping so much
[02:04] <snyft> hello i just bought an intel core 2 duo and was wondering should i use 64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop CD or the 32-bits?
[02:10] <thrashy> Anyone know how to change the screen size/geometry output by x11vnc server?
[04:12] <neozen> any of you guys get syncing over IR with a palm to work?
[04:12] <neozen> shot in the dark
[04:13] <maxamillion> neozen: can't say that i have ...
[04:13] <maxamillion> :(
[04:15] <neozen> drat this thinkpad and its lack of a serial port
[04:15] <neozen> how about one of those cheap usb->serial converters?
[04:16] <maxamillion> neozen: they work pretty well in my experience
[04:16] <neozen> well that's good news
[04:16] <neozen> any one in particular?
[04:17] <maxamillion> neozen: no, i think it was just a cheap-o offbrand one
[04:17] <neozen> good!
[04:17] <neozen> something like this? http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-to-9-pin-Serial-RS232-Adaptor-Adapter-Exten-Cable_W0QQitemZ130152195166QQihZ003QQcategoryZ64047QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[04:20] <maxamillion> neozen: looks good to me
[04:26] <maxamillion> lol @ 11.3KB/sec download
[04:30] <neozen> you didn't have to do anything nasty like recompile the kernel or anything did you?
[04:31] <neozen> meh... guess I'll figure it out when it gets here
[04:31] <neozen> lsusb better see it
[04:31] <neozen> or there's going to be some violence going down
[04:32] <neozen> so how's life been max?
[04:32] <neozen> school treating you well?
[04:45] <maxamillion> neozen: oh sorry, i was reading some lecture notes from my databases course
[04:45] <maxamillion> neozen: its going well ... but the first round of exams are going to be next week :(
[05:03] <Admiral_Chicago> does anyone in here have Eclipse installed in their install?
[05:26] <neozen> Admiral_Chicago, yeah I do
[05:26] <neozen> Admiral_Chicago, running into issues?
[05:26] <neozen> if it helps, I didn't use the one in the repos
[05:27] <Admiral_Chicago> neozen: no, no issues, I had a question about the install path, I've got it figure out
[05:27] <neozen> we use sun's jdk at work so it would be pointless to install gcj as well..
[05:27] <neozen> ok
[05:27] <neozen> I just stuck mine in a directory in my home
[05:27] <Admiral_Chicago> thanks anyways
[05:27] <neozen> no problem
[05:28] <Admiral_Chicago> i'll ping you if I need more help
[05:28] <neozen> I might be asleep, but am usually online 9-5 when I'm at work
[05:28] <neozen> cst
[05:28] <neozen> (I'm in chicago as well)
[05:29] <neozen> ...wait a minute...
[05:29] <neozen> I've probably met you
[05:30] <Admiral_Chicago> neozen: what is your IRL name?  if you don't mind me asking
[05:30] <neozen> Ross
[05:31] <neozen> was @ last chiglug meeting
[05:32] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, Institute of Design?
[05:32] <Admiral_Chicago> I was at that one, helping facilitate and stuff.
[05:33] <Admiral_Chicago> neozen: did you go to Flourish and BarCamp as well?
[05:33] <Admiral_Chicago> yea I know who you are, you have a thinkpad and long hair.
[05:33] <Admiral_Chicago> iirc
[05:33] <neozen> just got another one actually for work
[05:34] <neozen> been having issues due to the ati card in it acting up
[05:34] <neozen> most annoying one would be that screen goes blank when lid is closed
[05:34] <Admiral_Chicago> the reason I ask is because I'm doing doc work for Gutsy and I have Kubuntu (the best Linux distro ever)
[05:34] <Admiral_Chicago> ATI release over a Terabyte of specs for people to write drivers
[05:34] <Admiral_Chicago> afaik
[05:35] <neozen> then why is there lacking updated drivers for the R250 chipset?
[05:36] <Admiral_Chicago> they just released it today so they are working on R500 or something. I don't know the full details because I don't really buy AMD stuff, I may start though
[05:38] <neozen> amd?
[05:38] <neozen> this is an ati card
[05:38] <Admiral_Chicago> neozen: http://www.x.org/docs/AMD/
[05:39] <Admiral_Chicago> like I said, I dont follow AMD so I wouldn't know...all I know is that they own ATI
[05:39] <Admiral_Chicago> or something like that
[05:41] <neozen> oh yeah... forgot about that
[05:49] <neozen> in any case its time to crash
[05:49] <neozen> nini all
[06:02] <manduski> hey guys can anyone help me with trying to type spanish accents?
[06:51] <logreeval> Hello, is there a guide that shows the difference between Xfce and Gnome?
[06:59] <mindframe> logreeval, here's one - xfce > gnome
[06:59] <logreeval> lol mindframe
[06:59] <mindframe> logreeval, just throw in the livecd and find out
[06:59] <logreeval> i dont have the livecd
[06:59] <mindframe> download it :)
[07:00] <logreeval> and i cant download it cause i have satellite internet :(
[07:00] <mindframe> ouch :(
[07:00] <logreeval> i can only download 450 at a time
[07:00] <mindframe> you can order cd's for cheap
[07:00] <logreeval> i want it now lol
[07:01] <logreeval> well....
[07:01] <logreeval> does it have a new version every 6 months like ubuntu
[07:01] <mindframe> is there an internet cafe in a nearby town or anything?
[07:01] <mindframe> yes
[07:01] <mindframe> most *buntu's are on the same release schedule - the ones that matter anyway
[07:01] <logreeval> i live like 20 miles from town, thats why i have satellite
[07:02] <logreeval> like ubuntu, kubuntu, and xubuntu and edubuntu?
[07:02] <mindframe> could you drive to town, download the image / burn it?
[07:02] <mindframe> yes
[07:02] <logreeval> any more i should know about lol
[07:02] <mindframe> edubuntu is documentation so no
[07:02] <logreeval> ?
[07:02] <mindframe> fluxbuntu, ubuntu, xubuntu, kubuntu all get releases every 6 months
[07:02] <logreeval> cool
[07:03] <mindframe> theres nubuntu, mythbuntu
[07:03] <mindframe> hrmmm
[07:03] <mindframe> a few others im sure
[07:03] <logreeval> but those dont get the good support, eh?
[07:03] <mindframe> nubuntu is a security distro
[07:03] <mindframe> mythbuntu is a distro based on mythtv - its on the normal release schedule
[07:04] <logreeval> so why is Xfce the way to go?
[07:04] <mindframe> IMO: it's lighter, faster, and easier than gnome or kde.
[07:05] <mindframe> i'm a fan of fluxbox though, i had to have more desktop functionality though
[07:05] <mindframe> im excited to see what fluxbuntu will offer in gutsy
[07:05] <logreeval> cool
[07:05] <mindframe> (fluxbox is a very minimal window manager, no desktop environment)
[07:05] <mindframe> it's also super fast and light
[07:05] <logreeval> with 2.0 ghz and 512 ram would i see a difference in Xfce?
[07:06] <logreeval> compared to ubuntu that is
[07:06] <mindframe> it would not be worth the upgrade, considering the trouble you have to go through to get it
[07:06] <mindframe> you could always apt-get install xubuntu-desktop i believe
[07:06] <mindframe> or apt-get install xubuntu
[07:06] <logreeval> i can
[07:06] <logreeval> i looked
[07:07] <mindframe> it shouldnt tax your satellite too terribly
[07:07] <logreeval> and then i would have gnome and xubuntu right?
[07:07] <logreeval> so i would choose at the login menu?
[07:08] <mindframe> yes,
[07:08] <mindframe> in that case you could just apt-get install xfce
[07:08] <mindframe> err xfce4
[07:08] <mindframe> just change session at login
[07:09] <logreeval> yeah
[07:09] <logreeval> everythng would still be like the same but with a different DE?
[07:09] <mindframe> yes
[07:10] <mindframe> youll still have all the same programs
[07:11] <logreeval> ill think about it over night, its time for sleep lol
[07:12] <mindframe> same
[07:12] <logreeval> night
[07:21] <atarinox> anybody know why i can't get linuxdcpp working from the repos?
[07:28] <johnficca> when I try install install it just keeps failing, is there something I am doing wrong?
[07:29] <johnficca> it start the installation for like a second or two then stops with an error
[07:31] <johnficca> can xubuntu partition the hard drive?
[07:31] <johnficca> I think that is the problem
[07:33] <johnficca> is anyone here?
[07:41] <johnficca> it is saying Can't have the end before the start!
[08:01] <xork> i'm having some trouble formating an external hard drive
[08:02] <xork> can someone walk me through the steps? gparted gives me an error.
[08:02] <xork> that i don't have permission to mount the drive??
[08:02] <xork> i'd like to do this through the command line, and i tried, but unsuccessfully
[08:03] <xork> Disk /dev/sdc: 400.0 GB, 400088457216 bytes
[08:03] <xork> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 48641 cylinders
[08:03] <xork> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[08:03] <xork> Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[08:03] <xork> /dev/sdc1               1       48641   390708801   83  Linux
[08:03] <xork> that is the drive i am trying to format
[08:07] <xork> the commands i ran from terminal
[08:07] <xork> were
[08:07] <xork> mke2fs -j /dev/sdc
[08:07] <xork> tune2fs -m 0 /dev/sdc
[08:07] <zoredache> sudo?
[08:07] <xork> yes
[08:08] <zoredache> why sdc, and not sdc1?
[08:08] <xork> sdc1 was not found
[08:08] <xork> sdc worked
[08:08] <xork> now i have some udev rules set up
[08:08] <xork> to link it to /dev/vds400
[08:08] <xork> shoudl i have used that instead?
[08:09] <xork> i did that so they would always mount in same place
[08:09] <xork> otherwise the two externals i have would randomly mount to /media/disk1 or /media/disk2
[08:09] <xork> i'm majorly confused
[08:13] <xork> i'm going to try mke2fs on /dev/vds400
[08:13] <xork> i'm feeling brave
[08:16] <zoredache> hrm...
[08:16] <zoredache> I would repartition it correctly and build your filesystem on /dev/sdc1
[08:16] <zoredache> then set a partition label so that it gets mounted correctly
[08:17] <xork> how can i partition through terminal
[08:17] <xork> gparted won't let me touch it for some reason
[08:17] <xork> i'd like the udev rules to stay in place
[08:17] <xork> so that it's linked to /dev/vds400
[08:18] <xork> otherwise it gets mounted in random places
[08:18] <zoredache> try cfdisk /dev/sdc
[08:18] <xork> ah hah!
[08:18] <xork> mke2fs on /dev/vds400 worked
[08:18] <xork> i guess once you have those udev rules in place
[08:18] <xork> you can't use /dev/sdcs1 anymore
[08:18] <xork> you have to use the link
[08:19] <zoredache> are you sure?
[08:19] <xork> well
[08:19] <xork> here's the weird thing
[08:19] <zoredache> I am almost certain that I did the other day...
[08:19] <xork> i have access to it
[08:19] <xork> but if i sudo fdisk -l
[08:19] <xork> this is the result
[08:19] <xork> Disk /dev/sdc: 400.0 GB, 400088457216 bytes
[08:19] <xork> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 48641 cylinders
[08:19] <xork> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[08:19] <xork> Disk /dev/sdc doesn't contain a valid partition table
[08:20] <xork> why is it saying it doesn't have a valid partition table?
[08:20] <xork> when it's there, i have access, i can read/write?
[08:20] <zoredache> because you created your partition directly on /dev/sdc
[08:20] <xork> i just did it on /dev/vds400
[08:20] <zoredache> created your filesystem rather
[08:20] <xork> instead
[08:20] <xork> which is something i made up from udev rules
[08:20] <zoredache> so it has no partition table
[08:20] <xork> hmmmm.
[08:20] <xork> is it going to effect me? :P
[08:20] <xork> if i can still read/write to it?
[08:21] <xork> this is all way above my head
[08:21] <zoredache> you will be fine, if you only care about using it under linux
[08:21] <xork> i'm playing major guessing games
[08:21] <xork> that's all i care about
[08:21] <xork> but i'd like to protect myself from future problems
[08:21] <xork> and since i don't care about losing data on it now.. now's the time
[08:22] <xork> so how do i get a partition table
[08:22] <xork> i just tried cfdisk
[08:23] <xork> let's see
[08:23] <xork> wahoo!
[08:23] <xork> worked
[08:23] <xork> links are still functional
[08:23] <xork> fdisk reports a partition table
[08:23] <xork> i think i'm set
[08:23] <xork> thanks
[08:24] <zoredache> eh?
[08:24] <xork> lol sorry
[08:24] <xork> i'm jumping all over
[08:25] <xork> i did mke2fs on /dev/vds400 (the link i set up)
[08:25] <xork> then cfdisk on /dev/sdc
[08:25] <xork> made a partition
[08:25] <xork> and it .. seems to be working
[08:25] <xork> i have access.
[08:25] <xork> read/write
[08:25] <xork> it's still linked how i want it to and mounting correctly
[08:25] <xork> i don't know why gparted wouldn't work
[08:25] <xork> but oh well
[08:26] <zoredache> if you repartitioned things after you made the filesystem, then you have probably done something wrong
[09:11] <fudet> anybody home? :D
[09:13] <Merchelo> !anybody
[09:13] <Ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:33] <VampyreBe> hello hello everyone !
[12:33] <VampyreBe> may I ask a very special question ?
[12:34] <VampyreBe> i'm at the moment switching my 3 pc from windows to linux ubuntu. Mine is already under Ubuntu, but I was wondering the one from my daughter... it is a P II with 128 Mb ram, and was wondering if it was a good idea to put an Xubuntu on her pc
[12:36] <VampyreBe> i'd like to make a small network with the 3 pc, which I could administrate for the rights... if xubuntu is not suitable for her pc, what other distro can i use, and could I still make my network with different distros ?
[01:00] <mynyml> I want to be able to be notified of new rss feeds on the desktop ... for example with libnotify; anyone knows a tool that would do that?
[01:02] <predaeus> mynyml, e.g. liferea is a feed reader with a tray icon.
[01:02] <mynyml> predaeus: that should be good enough. i'll check it out
[01:02] <mynyml> thanks
[02:46] <thrashy> I'm trying to change the geometry of the vnc screen on my xubuntu server, I go into vnc.conf and add $geometry ="1024x768"; doesn't seem to work though, I even rebooted. Can anyone help?
[03:07] <DuClare> vncserver -geometry widthxheight
[03:17] <wlfwhiterabbit> hi! considering this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FtpServer can anyone tell me how i can launch FtpServer service? i've followed the instructions for the first case and now, how can i launch the service?
[03:19] <Pres-Gas> wlfwhiterabbit, which option did you pick?
[03:19] <wlfwhiterabbit> the first
[03:21] <adac> anyonone has vncserver running with xfce?
[03:21] <adac> I just get a grey screen
[04:11] <Wizard> hello :)
[04:11] <Wizard> i finally installed xubuntu/ppc
[04:12] <Wizard> does anybody use compiz under xfce ?
[04:26] <adac> Wizard: not tried yet
[04:26] <adac> a friend of mine has beryl running
[04:26] <adac> with xfce
[04:27] <adac> or compiz-fusion...
[04:43] <Wizard> hmm
[04:43] <Wizard> i'll check beryl. i installed compiz but i can't found any settings manager
[04:44] <Wizard> and it does not work correctly
[04:55] <yotux> how do I change the theme of xfce
[04:55] <vinze> Applications->Settings->User Interface Settings
[04:58] <magic_ninja> grrr
[04:58] <magic_ninja> my uselists disappeared
[04:58] <yotux> thankz
[04:59] <vinze> np
[05:01] <gerro> hmm anyone know of some good music players for xubuntu?
[05:01] <gerro> heard some people talking about exaile before
[05:01] <vinze> There are lots...
[05:01] <vinze> Exaile is good but a bit slow
[05:01] <gerro> yeah I thought it would be
[05:01] <magic_ninja> gerro: amarok is good, for single file play use mplayer (very memory unintensive), but i prefer banshee
[05:02] <gerro> ah yeah banshee I'll have to try that
[05:02] <vinze> I'm using Rhythmbox at the moment, but... Gnome libs
[05:02] <magic_ninja> gerro: if you don't want all the bells and whistles offered with amarok banshee takes up alot less system resources
[05:02] <gerro> I didn't want to use amarok because of all the kde dependencies
[05:02] <magic_ninja> gerro: banshee is your best alternative
[05:02] <gerro> also what about xmms?
[05:02] <vinze> I don't like it
[05:02] <magic_ninja> gerro: xmms is good but i find it to be unstable when using very large playlists
[05:03] <magic_ninja> gerro: well actually i find it to be unstable quite a bit
[05:03] <gerro> I sorta found it convenient being light and themeable
[05:03] <gerro> magic_ninja: on xubuntu?
[05:03] <magic_ninja> gerro: xmms is good i just find it unstable
[05:04] <magic_ninja> gerro: yes using xubuntu with gnome instead of xfce
[05:04] <gerro> magic_ninja: it won't process that external terabyte hdd of pop music?
[05:04] <Wizard> compiz and beryl have the same issue :/
[05:04] <magic_ninja> gerro: what you talking about lol, mine or yours
[05:05] <gerro> Wizard: use compiz fusion then :P
[05:05] <Wizard> i think it will give me same results
[05:06] <Wizard> both apps work until logout
[05:06] <gerro> Wizard: actually I tried it and it seems bit more stable. And when I installed it I didn't have to use all sorts of weird hacks
[05:06] <Wizard> after that: i have to start them manulally + the don't refresh windows (so i'm working with 'static screenshots')
[05:06] <wlfwhiterabbit> $ sudo pure-ftpd
[05:06] <wlfwhiterabbit> Unable to start a standalone server: Address already in use what does this mean?
[05:06] <gerro> I'm surprised it worked so smooth on this old geforce 5200 nvidia I only got 128mb on it
[05:07] <Wizard> i guess it would work on riva tnt :P
[05:07] <gerro> what you mean?
[05:08] <gerro> wlfwhiterabbit: it means something is already using that port, perhaps the server is already running. Try telneting to localhost on that port or perhaps use netcat. See what is running there
[05:08] <Wizard> there is no compiz fusion in repos :)
[05:08] <gerro> wlfwhiterabbit: there also some commands to check your ports probably be easier
[05:08] <gerro> Wizard: yeah its most likely going to be included with gutsy
[05:08] <wlfwhiterabbit> gerro: thanks.
[05:08] <Wizard> ay, fsck that
[05:09] <gerro> Wizard: they doing massive update on xorg and everything else
[05:09] <Wizard> i don't think if it will support ppc at all
[05:09] <gerro> Wizard: try checking #ubuntu-effects there this guy whom setup repositories for it
[05:10] <wlfwhiterabbit> gerro: i've never used telnet, could you please me tell which command i could use?
[05:11] <Wizard> bah.. i'm staying with xfce4wm
[05:11] <gerro> wlfwhiterabbit: try lsof -i
[05:12] <gerro> or just plain lsof and use | less or | grep "search for this"
[05:12] <gerro> wlfwhiterabbit: root might be running something on that port so try running it as root too. I doubt it would be though
[05:14] <gerro> wlfwhiterabbit: ctrl c to exit when your done
[05:17] <wlfwhiterabbit> gerro: with lsof -i there's nothing that uses port 20 or 21. doesn't pure-ftpd use port 21?
[05:20] <gerro> there are alternative ports it might be using
[05:20] <gerro> and its generally wise to run an ftpd server on a non standard port
[05:21] <wlfwhiterabbit> gerro: i understand what u mean. do you know how i could set the port pure-ftpd will use?
[05:22] <gerro> wlfwhiterabbit: its probably in its documentation found here http://www.pureftpd.org/project/pure-ftpd/doc
[05:22] <gerro> If its a bit over your head I'm sure there plenty of guides floating about or on the forums
[05:23] <wlfwhiterabbit> gerro: thanks, i'm sorry i made you make my work!
[05:23] <gerro> wlfwhiterabbit: try this tip it has Now, if you want to listen for an incoming connection on a non-standard port, just append '-S' and the port number: /usr/local/sbin/pure-ftpd -S 42
[05:24] <gerro> wlfwhiterabbit: also take in consideration some ports require root privileges and you probably wouldn't want to have the program running as root
[05:24] <gerro> generally anything over 1024 is good choice
[05:25] <gerro> wlfwhiterabbit: its no prob I was going to try some ftp servers out myself, I usually use filezilla on windows boxes.
[05:26] <maxamillion> gerro: you can use filezilla on linux as well
[05:27] <vinze> The newest version
[05:27] <wlfwhiterabbit> is filezilla graphic? (i perfectly know that in this case a GUI is a waste of memory, but i have some difficulty with the shell)
[05:28] <vinze> Yes
[05:36] <gerro> you can use the graphical interface for file zilla with any ftp server I think though
[05:36] <gerro> they all follow same protocol "ftp"
[05:37] <maxamillion> wlfwhiterabbit: if you just need a ftp client program, then i would suggest gftp .. its decently light on resources and its gui
[05:37] <Naughtyboy> very easy to use and straight forward....
[05:37] <wlfwhiterabbit> maxamillion: unfortunately i need to act as server
[05:38] <Naughtyboy> proftpd then...
[05:38] <Naughtyboy> also fairly easy to setup
[05:39] <gerro> I just use firefox and ftp:ip:port
[05:39] <Naughtyboy> gproftpd if you want a grafical interface
[05:39] <gerro> that why I is a be noob :D
[05:41] <wlfwhiterabbit> I've installed FileZilla but it doesn't seem i can act as server...
[05:41] <gerro> ok there gftp, gftp-common, gftp-gtk, and gftp-text
[05:41] <gerro> which do I choose ;_;
[05:42] <gerro> wlfwhiterabbit: umm its a client unless you specifically got the server part, I'd recommend using something different though if your on linux its mainly for windows
[05:42] <maxamillion> gerro: gftp-gtk
[05:43] <gerro> maxamillion: too late installed them all! woot!
[05:43] <maxamillion> gerro: lol
[05:43] <maxamillion> ok
[05:44] <gerro> it free stuff yo *steals it all*
[05:46] <gerro> maxamillion: the heck is with gftp it got half its documentation attached to gui. My 800x600 screen can't take it :(
[05:51] <gerro> run proftpd from inetd or standalone?...
[05:52] <gerro> I guess standalone hate it when things pop up at startup
[05:59] <vinze> join #codeyard
[05:59] <vinze> Sorry
[06:00] <gerro> no prob
[07:52] <lobi> similar programe like AdobeAcrobate for ubuntu
[07:52] <lobi> ?
[07:56] <lobi__> similar programe like AdobeAcrobate for ubuntu
[07:57] <lobi__> and if can do this http://www.acrobatusers.com/tutorials/2006/adding_video/adding_video.pdf
[08:03] <DaBeowulf> Can segmentation fault crashes in UT2004 get fixed by using this http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_100.14.11.html instead of the nvidia-glx-new from the restricted repository?
[08:03] <DaBeowulf> I did run memtest and my mem seems fine and UT is at the latest version.
[08:07] <LampoNero> ciao a tutti
[08:46] <rici> quick pmount question: i have a freebsd formatted hd in a usb enclosure, and i need to mount the slices with -r -t ufs -o ufstype=5xbsd.
[08:47] <rici> but the desktop seems to be trying to mount it -rw -o ufstype=old
[08:47] <rici> so i can't get rid of the popup window :(
[08:47] <rici> how do i tell it to cease and desist and let me mount it by hand?
[09:09] <TheSheep> rici: you could disable the volume manager in thunar->edit->preferences->advnced
[09:09] <hyper__ch> hiho
[09:09] <s-x-u> hiho -h
[09:09] <rici> TheSheep: thanks
[09:09] <rici> it was just kinda distracting.
[09:09] <TheSheep> rici: I can imagine
[09:09] <TheSheep> rici: probably adding it to the fstab with correct options would solve that too
[09:09] <rici> yeah, that's the next step
[09:09] <TheSheep> rici: and with noauto, if you don't want it mounted every time
[09:09] <rici> since it's unlikely to be pluggedin every time
[09:09] <rici> i just need to back it up, really.
[09:09] <rici> the box it was in blew up, but i recovered the hd from the mess.
[09:09] <TheSheep> rici: had something like that recently with my homepage server
[09:09] <TheSheep> rici: still can't get myself to bring the gallery up :)
[09:09] <rici> :)
[09:09] <hyper__ch> TheSheep: we want to see the gallery
[09:09] <rici> the new keyboard is supposed to show up tomorrow, and i'll be back to where i was pre-earthquake
[09:09] <rici> aside from one fried box, but i can live without it.
[09:09] <rici> saves me the trouble of upgrading the fbsd version :)
[09:09] <rici> ok, this is working. thanks again.
[09:09] <rici> seeya
[09:11] <snowdonkey> Hey.  I mainly use Kubuntu Feisty but I'd like to try out Xubuntu.  Is there a command to download XFCE without the extra programs that come with xubuntu-desktop?
[09:11] <TheSheep> snowdonkey: apt-get install xfce
[09:12] <snowdonkey> thesheep: lol, of course.  So then I can use XFCE environment with all my KDE programs?
[09:12] <hyper_ch> snowdonkey: yes
[09:12] <TheSheep> snowdonkey: oops, sorry, it's xfce4
[09:12] <TheSheep> snowdonkey: yes
[09:13] <TheSheep> snowdonkey: it's not the same as xubuntu, though
[09:14] <snowdonkey> thesheep: the default look will be different you mean?
[09:14] <TheSheep> snowdonkey: that too, yes
[09:14] <snowdonkey> thesheep: or drastic changes?  Like will my graphics drivers not work?
[09:15] <TheSheep> snowdonkey: nah, just the looks and useful tools
[09:15] <TheSheep> snowdonkey: actually, default xfce theme is mega-ugly :)
[09:16] <snowdonkey> heh
[09:17] <snowdonkey> thesheep: Ok.  BTW how did you do the thing with "***"?
[09:17] <TheSheep> you mean the action?
[09:17] <TheSheep> you do it with the /me command
[09:18] <snowdonkey> Oh cool.  I'm still kinda new to IRC.
[09:18] <TheSheep> just type /me at the beginning of the line
[09:19] <TheSheep> :)
[09:20] <snowdonkey> thesheep: thx for your help.  peace
[09:21] <TheSheep> love & peace
[09:23] <neozen> and lemurs!!!!
[09:23] <hyper_ch> carnivoral lemurs
[09:24] <neozen> with bats!
[09:24] <TheSheep> flamming zombie falmingos
[09:24] <TheSheep> flamingos even
[09:25] <TheSheep> they are pink
[09:25] <TheSheep> they are dead
[09:25] <TheSheep> they are after your brains
[09:25] <hyper_ch> the pinky and the brain... brain... brain... brain
[09:26] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: what are we going to do tonight?
[09:26] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: ripping all the movies off the DVD and then start encoding them to mkv :)
[09:26] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: and trying to send you a small video ;)
[09:28] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: the same we are going to do every night... try to take over the world
[09:35] <nonlocal> Right on the third try!
[09:35] <nonlocal> ;)
[09:42] <thrashy> Hey, I'm running utorrent through Wine but whenever I minimise it to tray I can't open the window back up, like the window border etc is there but the inside contents is just blank. Any ideas why this is and how to fix it?
[09:44] <hyper_ch> thrashy: why not using a linux torrent client?
[09:46] <thrashy> I would but my isp throttles so I need a client that offers encryption, afaik utorrent is the only one that has this?
[09:47] <hyper_ch> thrashy: nope, ktorrent does it also and rtorrent also
[09:48] <thrashy> hmm might have a look at rtorrent then.. :)
[09:48] <hyper_ch> thrashy: rtorrent is command line only - hence very lightweight
[09:49] <hyper_ch> thrashy: TheSheep put my attention to it... before I used kTorrent ;)
[09:49] <nonlocal> thrashy:  try deleting ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/profiles/your_profile/Application\ Data/uTorrent/settings*
[09:49] <nonlocal> (hope I got that path right)
[09:50] <thrashy> thanks nonlocal although seems its not doing it any more.. strange
[09:50] <thrashy> might go with rtorrent now anyways, vnc and utorrent is kinda laggy to control :P
[09:51] <hyper_ch> thrashy: that's how I started:    http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2007/05/02/howto-use-rtorrent-like-a-pro/
[09:52] <thrashy> Thanks, I'm gonna give rtorrent a try now
[09:54] <hyper_ch> and of course:  http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/
[10:00] <Jester45> deluge is nice
[10:05] <neozen> thrashy: so does azureus
[10:06] <neozen> thrashy: it likes ram though
[10:06] <neozen> all java things do
[10:06] <neozen> *company's
[10:06] <TheSheep> neozen: you need an 11ft pole
[10:07] <TheSheep> neozen: shame we only grow at most 6ft tall in Poland
[10:07] <nonlocal> thrashy:  rtorrent is the business. I just thought I would take a crack at solving the problem at hand ...
[10:07] <neozen> lol
[10:08] <thrashy> yeah I'm setting up rtorrent now lol =)
[10:10] <Jester45> i would say deluge is the best gui for linux
[10:10] <Jester45> utorrent was nice in the pre webui versions
[10:11] <Jester45> but isnt good in wine as it breaks the theme of your desktop and az is a hog
[10:17] <hyper_ch> nonlocal: what problem?
[10:18] <nonlocal> hyper_ch:  thrashy's non-displaying utorrent problem.
[10:19] <hyper_ch> nonlocal: ^^
[10:19] <hyper_ch> so there are more rtorrent users in here than any other client?
[10:19] <thrashy> bah, screw utorrent, I'm download something in rtorrent right now :D
[10:19] <neozen> lol
[10:19] <thrashy> I like it so far
[10:20] <seras> hello i was wondering if there was any way to replace the panel in xfce gusty without all of them disappearing?
[10:20] <hyper_ch> thrashy: did you have a look at the rtorrent site about common tasks? and the official support channel is over at irc.worldforge.org  #libtorrent
[10:20] <thrashy> yeah looking now
[10:21] <thrashy> is encryption automatically on?
[10:21] <hyper_ch> thrashy: I haven't seen an option to en/disable it
[10:21] <hyper_ch> so I tend to think it's auto-encrypted
[10:22] <thrashy> its just the speed is only @ 20kb/s which leads me to think something is being held back
[10:24] <hyper_ch> my speeds currently isn't great either but I fetched The Corporation yesterday at nearly 250kbit
[10:36] <Jester45> 250kbit is like 20 kb/s you know that rigt
[10:37] <nonlocal> Why did the cable companies have to start us talking about mega*bits* and such just to make their bandwidth seem faster... }8[
[10:40] <hyper_ch> Jester45: 250kbytes
[10:40] <hyper_ch> was a typo :9
[10:44] <nikolam> nonlocal: Beacouse it sounds better and beacouse that are telcomunications and that we can handle (nince 300bitsPerSeconds modem onwards) But what definitely is not right is HD`s volume stating at X GB when they are meening Gigabitss.. thats fraud.
[10:46] <hyper_ch> I tend to say its a historical way of telling transfer rates... how many 0s and 1s can you pump through your line in a second
[10:46] <Jester45> they didnt start it its the standard way network speeds are stated
[10:46] <Jester45> like a 100mbit ethernet or gbit
[10:46] <nonlocal> nikolam: Yes that irks me too. And the general trend towards defining a megabyte as 1000bytes instead of 1024
[10:46] <hyper_ch> a megabyte is 1 mio bytes ;)
[10:46] <hyper_ch> kilo = thousand
[10:47] <hyper_ch> mega = million
[10:47] <nonlocal> Jester45:  fair enough. Just seemed like I had been thinking in kb/s forever and then cable/dsl showed up
[10:47] <Jester45> its much easier to use for humans
[10:47] <zoredache> kilo =2^10, mega = 2^20
[10:47] <rici> kibi / mibi
[10:47] <nonlocal> Jester45:  What does that make me :(
[10:48] <hyper_ch> zoredache: only in computer science ;)
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[10:49] <nikolam> That is not trend that is Hd producers fraud. But these days they are stating on the boxes that it is in thousand bits so its to user to figure out. Its like CRT monitors and size of screen.. After some lawsuit in canada or so, they begins to state actual size (viewable)
[10:49] <Jester45> well what 100,000,000 bytes converted to MB the computer way
[10:50] <zoredache> you say it is 'fraud' but it really isn't... It was just some engineer being lazy a long time ago, and everyone else following his lead
[10:51] <hyper_ch> zoredache: I don't think it was an engineer being lazy... I tend to think it was non-tech guys being not able to understand why it is 1024 and not 1000
[10:51] <zoredache> never assume malice when incompatence is more likely
[10:52] <nonlocal> zoredache:  these are not governments (where I would agree), they are corporations looking for profit. it's a little too convenient when the errors always seem to make the numbers look bigger on packaging...
[10:53] <zoredache> nonlocal: most of these standards where created by the government...
[10:53] <nonlocal> ?
[10:53] <Jester45> not if your doing 40,000mb hardrive and not 40GB
[10:53] <hyper_ch> as 1024 is close to  1000 it's a lot simpler to just say it's 1k or 1m
[10:53] <nonlocal> Jester45:  Another good point :)
[10:53] <Jester45> really non tech people would seed Mb and think its small
[10:53] <Jester45> see*
[10:54] <zoredache> here, read this article about how 'military specs' live forever
[10:54] <zoredache> http://wilk4.com/humor/humore11.htm
[10:54] <hyper_ch> zoredache: nothing lives forever
[10:54] <Jester45> because the military doesnt let it change
[10:54] <zoredache> rici: seems to have read my mind
[10:56] <hyper_ch> nothing lasts forever ;)
[10:56] <zoredache> well, perhaps not forever, but maybe as long as the human civilization
[10:56] <hyper_ch> I don't think so
[10:57] <Zach`> hey
[10:57] <Zach`> I'm using Xubuntu and I have a problem with change the language
[10:58] <Zach`> I have full support of my local language (Hebrew) but I can't switch to it! how can I fix that?
[10:58] <TheSheep> Zach`: you don't have it listed on the login screen?
[10:58] <Zach`> I do, but if I choose Hebrew I can't switch back to english
[10:59] <Zach`> there's no alt+shift thing like in Windows?
[10:59] <hyper_ch> !lnw
[10:59] <ubotu> Want to know the differences between Windows and Linux? This guide, called "Linux is Not Windows" is a pretty good read -- http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[10:59] <hyper_ch> !lnw | Zach`
[10:59] <ubotu> Zach`: please see above
[10:59] <TheSheep> Zach`: there is a keyboard layout switcher plugin you can add to your panel
[10:59] <Zach`> cool TheSheep, where can I grab it :)?
[11:00] <TheSheep> Zach`: it's installed by default, just right-click on the panel and select 'add new item'
[11:00] <TheSheep> zenrox: then choose the keyboard layout switcher from the menu
[11:00] <thrashy> hmm trying to update rtorrent, it says do ./autogen.sh but then says "aclocal not found" how am i meant to update?
[11:02] <Zach`> cool TheSheep and now how I add my language (hebrew) to the keyboard layout switcher?
[11:02] <hyper_ch> thrashy: you're not using it from the repos?
[11:02] <TheSheep> Zach`: I'm not sure, probably in settings->keayboard settings
[11:02] <TheSheep> keyboard
[11:02] <Zach`> thanks!
[11:03] <thrashy> hyper_ch I the repo gave me 0.6.4 and apparently only >v7 supports encryption
[11:03] <hyper_ch> thrashy: oh... hmm....
[11:03] <hyper_ch> thrashy: how about gutsy?
[11:04] <hyper_ch> thrashy: I have to ckeck what version it has
[11:09] <nonlocal> Speaking of strange byte-math... I just noticed apt-get telling me: "Fetched 613kB in 1s (307kB/s)"
[11:09] <nonlocal> Heh.
[11:11] <hyper_ch> gutsy has 0.7.4
[11:18] <nikolam> Zach` edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add 	Option 		"XkbOptions" 	"grp:alt_shift_toggle"
[11:18] <nikolam> Under Section "InputDevice"
[11:18] <nikolam> 	Identifier	"Generic Keyboard"
[11:18] <nikolam> Before EndSection
[11:19] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: can I somehow use the rtorrent package from Gutsy in feisty?
[11:19] <nikolam> Add keyboards in Settings manager> Keyboards Layouts and logoff and restart X (Ctrl+Alt+Backspace)
[11:20] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: sure, if it doesn't have too many dependencies
[11:20] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: so I just download it and check it?
[11:20] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: download it from packages.ubuntu.org or just add gutsy repository for a moment
[11:20] <thrashyy> whats the gutsy repo?
[11:20] <TheSheep> !gutsy
[11:20] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[11:21] <TheSheep> thrashyy: same as feisty, only with 'feisty' replaced with 'gutsy'
[11:22] <thrashyy> hmm this is in software sources or? only been using linux for like 24 hours so go easy eh
[11:23] <nikolam> huper_ch from my knoledge (tryed to install iceape 1.4.1 from gutsy on 7.04) it is basically very hard to do it manually (dependencies) . try adding gutsy repository but Not upgaring to it. I havent try myself but ..
[11:23] <hyper_ch> libc6 also needed...
[11:23] <nikolam> I myself will not till gutsy is done.
[11:24] <nikolam> hyper_ch: It is sometimes endless effort. i myself downloaded 10 .deb`s for iceape manually untill realised I have to reinstall half the system that way..
[11:25] <hyper_ch> libc6 and rtorrent will do the job ;)
[11:26] <nikolam> Hmm me too needed libc6. unil I realized that half of system depends on old one. Be Very carefull.
[11:28] <hyper_ch> nikolam: if I have problems then I will just get the new gutsy :)
[11:29] <nikolam> Yes, me too :) and ufter one update u could`nt boot. anyway it is talk for #ubuntu+1 cahnnel :)
[11:30] <hyper_ch> thrashyy: you know "Screen"?
[11:30] <snowdonkey> Hey.  I'm using Xubuntu Feisty, and I want to open files from Thunar into Vim.  Problem is "Open With" dialog doesn't have option to run a command in a terminal, so the documents don't open.  Is there a way to do this?
[11:30] <TheSheep> argh, ubiquity sucks :(
[11:30] <TheSheep> snowdonkey: use 'gvim' or '
[11:30] <TheSheep> terminal -x vim'
[11:31] <nikolam> snowdonkey OpenwithOthe Application> choose one > select/deselect "use as default
[11:31] <snowdonkey> thesheep: ok, I'll try it.
[11:31] <snowdonkey> nikolam: Even with that selected it doesn't open b/c vim's a console app.
[11:32] <thrashyy> hyper_ch I don't think so
[11:33] <hyper_ch> thrashyy: also very nice:   http://jmcpherson.org/screen.html
[11:34] <nikolam> snowdonkey: edit> configure custom actions? :)
[11:34] <snowdonkey> thesheep: thx, I got it working using command konsole -e vim (I have Kubuntu installed too).  But it keeps saying "Terminal" isn't a command, though I see that's what the program's called.
[11:34] <snowdonkey> nikolam: Right, I do that.  But vim is a console app.  Opening a document with just "vim" dosen't open it.
[11:35] <nikolam> With custom actions you open console!
[11:35] <TheSheep> snowdonkey: ah, it was renamed to xfce4-terminal
[11:35] <snowdonkey> thesheep: Aha!  :)
[11:35] <nikolam> :)
[11:36] <nikolam> "Terminal" with "T" should open it :)
[11:36] <TheSheep> snowdonkey: gvim is nice if you disable the toolbar
[11:36] <Jester45> yes a T is needed t doesnt work
[11:36] <TheSheep> snowdonkey: has nicer fonts and colors
[11:37] <nikolam> TheSheep: On 7.04 or Gutsy?
[11:37] <TheSheep> nikolam: on both, not by default though :)
[11:37] <nikolam> here at me is
[11:37] <snowdonkey> thesheep: yea I've read that.  I'm trying to go through the gauntlet of learning the commands though  :)
[11:38] <hyper_ch> oh well, that did not work well
[11:39] <nikolam> Did anyone of you actually formated and used CDRW formated as UDF?
[11:40] <nikolam> In read-write mode, of course
[11:40] <neozen> TheSheep: me as well
[11:41] <neozen> TheSheep: first thing I do on any system I work on is pull over my .vimrc
[11:41] <neozen> all hail scp
[11:41] <snowdonkey> I lost recently lost my .vimrc  :(
[11:41] <snowdonkey> *just lost
[11:42] <snowdonkey> I had key mappings for compiling and running C++ and Java too.  so sad.
[11:43] <nikolam> I have one mistery here. With other accounts Ooo works as well as Document viewer. Not with my account :)
[11:44] <neozen> lol... mine isn't even that long
[11:44] <neozen> my recent big loss was ~1yrs worth of gaim logs
[11:45] <TheSheep> neozen: I have to scp -r .vim* :)
[11:45] <neozen> what's in .viminfo anyway?
[11:45] <TheSheep> neozen: information letting Vim start where you left if you reopen files
[11:45] <TheSheep> neozen: and old clipboards
[11:45] <TheSheep> neozen: stuff like that
[11:46] <TheSheep> neozen: depends on how you configure it
[11:46] <neozen> ah
[11:46] <neozen> I've gotten addicted to xfce4-notes as well
[11:46] <neozen> I wish it had keyboard shortcuts
[11:46] <TheSheep> neozen: but I mean the .vim directory, with the colors and spell and syntax subdirectories
[11:47] <TheSheep> neozen: try Zim
[11:47] <TheSheep> neozen: it's great
[11:47] <neozen> Zim?
[11:47] <TheSheep> http://pardus-larus.student.utwente.nl/~pardus/projects/zim/
[11:47] <TheSheep> something like a tom,boy, only in perl, not c#
[11:48] <s-x-u> or kim she is great :)
[11:48] <neozen> ....xfce...
[11:49] <neozen> wait... isn't kim a bunch of filters for images in kde?
[11:49] <s-x-u> i was joking
[11:49] <neozen> like right click on an image... see "shrink by 50%", "compress for web" etc
[11:49] <neozen> how's output of zim?
[11:50] <TheSheep> neozen: text files in a directory
[11:50] <neozen> as in how it exports its stuff
[11:50] <TheSheep> neozen: with simple wiki-like formatting
[11:51] <neozen> what is wiki-like?
[11:51] <TheSheep> ==heading== [[link to other page] ]  **bold** //italic//
[11:51] <TheSheep> afair
[11:51] <neozen> ahh
[11:52] <neozen> interesting
[11:52] <neozen> I'll give it a shot
[11:52] <neozen> but..... can it blend?
[11:52] <neozen> sorry... couldn't resist
[11:53] <TheSheep> neozen: it's gtk, it should fit the rest of xfce
[11:53] <neozen> not that kind of blend
[11:53] <neozen> but noticed the gtk bindings
[11:53] <neozen> ..for me... this is a must
[11:55] <neozen> http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/10/will-it-blend-the-iphone-smoothie/
[11:56] <neozen> anyway
[11:56] <neozen> time to head off to linux group
[11:59] <nikolam> LOL
[12:00] <nikolam> WOW
[12:14] <zoredache> probably a simple question, but how do i either temporarily or permanently disable sending things to the trash?
[12:15] <s-x-u> http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/10/will-it-blend-the-iphone-smoothie/ useful info thanks a lot LOL LOL LOL that is real fun
[12:22] <Jester45> hold shift when you delete them
[12:23] <Jester45> hi Max
[12:26] <zoredache> Jester45: I was hoping to disable it completely, not temporarily... but that will work I guess.  Thanks Jester45