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Netkiller3714is Kirk having a problem with readin his ntfs drive?12:39
kirkyes12:39
kirkUnable to enter file:///harddrive2/. You do not have access rights to this location.12:40
Netkiller3714ah ok12:40
Netkiller3714sudo /dev/hdb1 /harddrive2 chmod 00007      I think this might be the way I did it, don't remember though, long time ago.12:41
kirkim lost, i just switched to kubutnu last night12:41
kirknever been on any linux ever12:41
Netkiller3714ya, it's tricky but you'll get used to it.12:41
kirksudo: /dev/hdb1: command not found12:42
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Netkiller3714opps12:42
Netkiller3714lol12:42
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jhutchinssudo mount .... perhaps?12:42
AnarchI'm still trying to get my Intel 965 chipset to display 1280x1024.  When I override the monitor type in Settings|Peripherals|Monitor&Display, setting it to 1280x1024@60, then hit [Test] , I get X with no window manager or tasks, just the stippled background and the "x" cursor; but there's no way out of that, and then restarting KDM gives me a flickering blue screen.  Back to Plug-n-Play gives me 1024x768.  I've enabled backports & have th12:42
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Am3ndmentHah!12:42
jhutchinskirk: sudo just gives you root permissions.12:42
Am3ndmentLinux was MUCH easier than i though :D12:42
jhutchinskirk: so it's sudo <command> <arguments>12:42
kirkahh12:42
kirknoted12:42
kirkthanks jhutchins12:43
Am3ndmentOnly thing that i couldnt get working was wireless :/12:43
jhutchinskirk: ... aaand make sure you use kdesu instead of sudo for any GUI apps (so they don't save settings as root in your homedir).12:43
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Netkiller3714kirk is the ntfs drive have Windows on it?12:44
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kirkyes12:44
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Netkiller3714sudo mkdir -p /mnt/windows12:44
Netkiller3714sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows -t ntfs -o umask=022212:44
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Netkiller3714and to unmount, sudo umount /mnt/windows12:45
Netkiller3714:D12:45
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Netkiller3714replace hda1 with hdb112:45
kirkmount: mount point /mnt/windows does not exis12:45
BluesKajAnarch, have you tried to find your monitor& graphics card in the admin mode / configure and reset the driver there ?12:45
Netkiller3714kirk, replace hda1 with hdb1 then do it XD12:45
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kirksame thing12:47
kirkmount: mount point /mnt/windows does not exist12:47
Netkiller3714do you have ntfs-3g installed?12:48
kirkyes12:48
Netkiller3714ok12:48
Netkiller3714ntfs-3g /dev/hdb1 /mnt/windows12:48
Netkiller3714try that12:48
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Netkiller3714ntfs-3g /dev/hdb1 -o silent,umask=0,locale=en_US.utf812:49
kirkbash: /usr/bin/ntfs-3g: Permission denied12:49
Netkiller3714this one will give you full access12:49
BluesKaji still think he need ntfs-config as well12:49
Netkiller3714ya. Thats what I'm thinking to12:49
Netkiller3714kirk12:50
Netkiller3714gksu ntfs-config12:50
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BluesKajprolly needs to install it , doesn't come with ntfs-3g12:51
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Netkiller3714I know, I'm checking12:51
BluesKajand remember he prolly using kde so the command is kdesu12:51
kirki install ntfs-config12:51
Netkiller3714ah ya12:52
kirkdone12:52
kirkyes im using kde12:52
Netkiller3714kirk go do kdesu ntfs-config and tell us what it says.12:52
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rotmanHi all.. Is it posible to get a login screen where you can mouse-select the users in Kubuntu? (like the default KDE login screen)12:52
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kirkNTFS write configuration tool12:53
kirkenable or internal device12:53
kirkfor^12:53
Netkiller3714enable12:53
jordo23In Kubuntu I have VNC working but would like to be able to connect without having to Accept the connection on my end. To contact computer from work, etc. Is it possible to tell Desktop Sharing to always accept incoming connections as long as I have a password setup on tightvnc?12:53
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kirkX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16712:54
kirk  Major opcode:  14412:54
kirk  Minor opcode:  312:54
kirk  Resource id:  0x012:54
kirkFailed to open device12:54
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Netkiller3714argh12:54
kirkit said that 4 times12:54
Netkiller3714probably for each hd platter12:54
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kirkthis is really complicated12:55
Netkiller3714yup12:55
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kirki'm lovin it12:55
Netkiller3714well, I gave you the commands but it's just not working. Thats weird.12:55
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remsBonjour12:56
Netkiller3714#kubuntu/fr12:56
dappermuiskirk, that X error always occurs when you try run a X application from the command line12:56
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dappermuiskirk, the app should still run though12:56
Netkiller3714#fr-kubuntu12:56
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kirkwhat app? im trying to add a hard drive12:57
kirkmount: according to mtab, /dev/hdb1 is already mounted on /harddrive212:57
kirkmount failed12:57
dappermuisfor the kdesuntfs-config12:57
dappermuisok, so its already mounted - whats the problem?12:57
Netkiller3714lol12:57
Netkiller3714thats why theres been an error12:57
kirkit says it mounted but when i try to go to /harddrive212:58
kirki get12:58
Netkiller3714It's already mounted12:58
kirkUnable to enter file:///harddrive2/. You do not have access rights to this location.12:58
dappermuisooh wait, lemme gues - access denied when you try to access it12:58
Netkiller3714lol now we see12:58
dappermuistry "kdesu konqueror /harddrive212:58
kirkvoila12:58
dappermuisthat should work, and then you'll see that your problem is a permissions issue12:58
kirkso how do i change the permissions12:59
kirkyes opened my other hard drive in a new window :)12:59
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kirkfinallllllly lol thanks so much12:59
dappermuisnp, just remember you wont be able to access it as a normal user12:59
dappermuisyou need to mount it with the correct permissions to do that01:00
christophhey anybody an idea how i can configure nvidia that i have twinview?01:00
Netkiller3714your gonna have to change the permissions on it01:00
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kirkhow do u change its permissions?01:00
christophnvidia geforce 760001:00
dappermuis"man mount"01:00
dappermuis!mount01:01
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter01:01
dappermuischeck out those resources01:01
AnarchBluesKaj: Yes, I have overridden plug & play using admin mode.  The menu there doesn't offer "intel" (which should supercede i810), so I also ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and told it not to autodetect the monitor.01:01
kirkhmm ok ill have to do some research01:02
NickPresta!xine01:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:02
dappermuiskirk, that's the best way to learn - then in the future you can advise other people on how to do it :)01:02
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jordo23Does flash 9.0.48 work in Konqueror?01:04
kirkdoesnt make sense though, i have any multiuser setup01:04
kirki just installed kubuntu last night01:04
kirkthis is should have complete access01:05
dappermuiskirk, all users will  have access to their home directories yes01:05
dappermuisbut as a security setting only the super user has access to other partitions/devices01:06
dappermuisyou need to specifically allow other users to access those devices01:06
kirkhmm i need to upgrade to super user then01:06
dappermuisno, thats not the solution01:06
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dappermuisyou need to mount the partition with the option for users to access it01:06
dappermuisadmittedly, its not as easy as i'm making it out to be01:07
kirkhey i figured it out without reading anything01:08
dappermuishehe, excellent!01:08
dappermuiswhat did you do?01:08
kirki went to system settings,advanced, into admin mode, changed the permissions on hdb101:08
dappermuisnice one :)01:08
dappermuisthough now you probably want to set up fstab to mount the drive automatically in the future01:09
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dappermuiswith the correct permissions01:09
dappermuischeck out http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_Mount_NTFS_Partitions01:09
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kirkwooooooooooooooo thanks u people01:10
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dappermuisnp :)01:12
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judgenis there an app for controlling different speaker settings01:20
BluesKajwhat speaker settings ?01:20
kirk!groups01:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about groups - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:21
ScorpKingdappermuis: please join #kubuntu-offtopic01:21
dappermuisScorpKing, why?01:21
ScorpKingdon't want to praat nonsens here. :)01:22
kirk!clock01:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about clock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:22
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kirkis there anyway to get it off military time?01:22
level1hi, google suggest hasn't been working on konqueror for me recently01:22
level1kirk: I know how01:22
dappermuisScorpKing, lol i see, so you want to praat nonsense elsewhere01:22
kirkive been trying to figure it out01:22
ScorpKinglol01:22
level1kirk: right click, and go to "date and time format"01:22
judgenBluesKaj: i want to set 2 speakers only and disable all other channels.01:22
judgenBluesKaj:  im waring headphones01:23
BluesKajkirk,right click on the clocl/adjust time & date formay01:23
level1kirk: and then play around01:23
root__alguien de argentina ?01:23
level1kirk: but military time is so cool!!!01:23
BluesKajjudgen, alsamixer in the terminal01:23
dappermuislol, i love it how people call it military time01:24
dappermuiswe just call it a 24 hour clock01:24
BluesKaj!es | root__01:24
uboturoot__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.01:24
level1why is the clock in 24 time by default?01:24
level1!root | root__01:24
uboturoot__: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo01:24
level1sorry, but its just funny01:24
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judgenBluesKaj:  alsamixer has same stuff as kmix afaik. Im trying to get some higher volumes. I can hardly hear the sound as its so low. Even at maximim levels.01:25
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kirkbrb01:25
hitmanWillylevel1, most unix systems run on a 24 hr clock, therefore, so do unix's descendants01:25
BluesKajdappermuis, that's an american observation, not many americans use the 24 hr clock , just their military01:25
dappermuisBluesKaj, yes I know - its still funny though :)01:26
level1hitmanWilly: yeah, most unix systems use CDE, too.  That doesn't mean my desktop needs to be ugly... although, I do like 24 time01:26
BluesKajjudgen,, check your "Input levels" in kmix01:26
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hitmanWillylevel1, CDE has its own functional beauty to it, but yeah...01:27
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hitmanWillylevel1, then again, i think the console looks good, too :P01:27
judgenBluesKaj:  does not seem to matter if i put them at max or at the bottome01:27
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level1hitmanWilly: I'm thinking I might create a kde style to imitate an ncurses interface... it looks cool in my brain01:28
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level1hitmanWilly: that kind of thing doesn't already exsist, does it?01:28
hitmanWillylevel1, you'll be one of about three people using it...lol01:28
Daisuke-Laptopi think he just found a way to get intelikey to use a gui.01:28
hitmanWillylevel1, not that i've seen01:28
hitmanWillylol01:29
level1Daisuke-Laptop: not possible!01:29
Daisuke-Laptopi pick on intelikey too much, he's good people.01:29
BluesKajIN-put judgen, and make sure the the MIX "switch"  turned on in kmix01:29
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level1ugh, where did google suggest go?01:30
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judgenBluesKaj:  mix switch?01:32
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BluesKajjudgen open kmix 'switches tab , make sure the 'mix' light is turned on01:34
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hitmanWillyBluesKaj, here's to hoping01:36
pillowpantswhy isnt nvidia-legacy-kernel in the repos?01:36
judgenBluesKaj: the swithces tab has only two dropdown options. both says input source and one is set to mic and the other to line in01:36
judgenthere is no mix option01:36
Daisuke-Laptop!info nvidia-glx-legacy01:36
ubotunvidia-glx-legacy: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'legacy' driver. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.7184+2.6.20.5-16.29 (feisty), package size 2992 kB, installed size 9780 kB01:36
pillowpantsi can only see the source01:36
level1pillowpants: do you have mulitverse enabled?01:36
pillowpantsyeah, its all enabled01:36
pillowpantsi only see 'nvidia-legacy-kernel-source'01:37
pillowpantsor is that it?01:37
Daisuke-Laptoplisterfiend - it's nvidia-glx-legacy01:37
pillowpantsdoes it compile from sources?01:37
Daisuke-Laptopno, it's a closed source driver01:37
BluesKajjudgen, check again , there should be 6 or 701:37
pillowpantsthats what i thought01:37
hitmanWillyDaisuke-Laptop, no, he's talking about the newer kernel interface modules01:38
Daisuke-Laptopthe kernel module has to be compiled from source though, but the nvidia-glx-legacy package does that for you01:38
judgenBluesKaj: only 201:38
judgenin mine01:38
pillowpantsso i only install the nvidia-glx-legacy?01:38
pillowpantsand uninstall the nvidia-kernel-common?01:38
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BluesKajnot the dropdowns judgen , i mean the ctrls with lights01:38
bigleonWoo downloads01:39
Daisuke-Laptopnvidia-glx-legacy probably depends on that kernel package01:39
bigleonHey level1, i madea  7.04 live cd01:39
judgenBluesKaj:  dont got any of those in the switches tab01:39
bigleonand it has buncha crazy issues01:39
Daisuke-Laptopso you may as well keep it01:39
brad_my wireless connection is acting like a crazy person, and it seems to be both the wireless card and the router01:39
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bigleonit won't start graphiccly01:39
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BluesKajjudgen, then that's as far as I can go ...bummer01:40
judgenBluesKaj:  hmmm01:40
judgenthanks anyways01:40
level1bigleon: you mean an alternate install cd or just teh regular cd?01:41
BluesKajjudgen, check the volume control on your speakers themselves01:41
bigleonregular01:42
bigleoni'm fixxing to download the alternate01:42
judgenBluesKaj:  tried that too, and even with headphones its extremly low01:42
judgenBluesKaj:  but in BeOS and Windows i get perfect sound by setting the speaker configs to headphones...01:42
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bigleonyeah i just started the dl on wget :D01:43
level1bigleon: did you try to start in the safe graphics more?01:43
bigleonyeah that didn't work level101:43
elvin?  But it ends up dissapearing in the heat..01:43
level1bigleon: let me check, there should be a bug report about this01:43
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brad_hmmm so I think both my wireless card and wireless router are acting strange seperately01:44
brad_because generally I have to reset my whole computer or the wireless router or both01:44
BluesKajjudgen , some input level is turned down or the system setttings /sound system isn't configured01:45
judgenBluesKaj:  how do i configure alsa better then?01:45
bigleonif i understand i'm using the same laptop as you level101:46
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BluesKajjudgen, have you opened alsamixer in the terminal and unmuted all the crtls ?01:47
gundam_rx78nt1where can I find information about creating my own splash screen for when I log into kubuntu?01:48
bigleonone sec gundam01:48
bigleoni'll look01:48
gundam_rx78nt1thank you bigleon01:48
level1gundam_rx78nt1: I would also like to know that01:48
bigleonI think you ought to check out www.kde-look.org i'm sure some resources should be available there.01:49
judgenBluesKaj:  yes01:49
gundam_rx78nt1thanks, I just started to work with Linux and want to customize it like some people has...01:49
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bigleonhey if you make a really sweet Grim Reaper theme, let me know cause i really want one like that01:50
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_2anyone in here ever use "wakeonlan" or "etherwake" ?      and don't "!ask" at me...01:51
bigleon_2 i've never used it, but hey, check out google you can find someone who have.01:51
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_2if no one has used either then the question is moot01:51
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_2bigleon if i can't talk with those that have then knowing who they are is worth nothing.01:52
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groeghello? anyone there?01:53
level1groeg: what was your problem?01:53
BluesKajjudgen, you have ' advanced linux sound architecture ' selected in system settings / sound system/hardware/select audio device01:53
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level1damn, launchpad is refusing to let me post a bug01:54
pillowpants!flash01:54
level1it says "there is 1 error" but it doesn't say what the error is01:54
groegi installed feisty kubuntu on my toshiba satellite A70 and the cpu fan just keeps running thus being really noisy. is there a way to control my fan?01:54
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash01:54
ScorpKinggroeg: clean the fan01:54
pillowpantshow have the rest of you gotten flash to work for firefox?01:54
bigleon_2 well i've found alot of resources over google. whats your problem just curious.01:55
groegScorpKing: Thanks but there must be an easier way01:55
level1bigleon: subscribe to this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/13950501:55
ScorpKinglol01:55
_2i'll go ahead and explain what i have found.   both etherwake and wakeonlan work as they should, unless linux has powered off the box with the "init 0" halt command.   in which case one must physically press the power button.   you can power on then right back off before it boots and then wakeonlan and etherwake both work again.      so i concluded that linux is leaving code either in the nic or ram that interfears with the power on01:55
bigleonAlright Level1, Good evenign ScorpKing01:55
groeglevel1: i installed feisty kubuntu on my toshiba satellite A70 and the cpu fan just keeps running thus being really noisy. is there a way to control my fan?01:56
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ScorpKinghi bigleon! your computer behaving today? konversation kicks me off now and then.01:56
level1groeg: lol, don't repeat youself, you'll wear yourself out... well, hmmm01:56
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groegScorpKing: I found programs for other laptop computers to control fan speed but haven't found one yet that does the same for mine. isn't there a generic one for all laptops etc01:57
level1groeg: I don't own that computer, but there might be something in the acpi01:57
bigleonScorpKing haha i'm back at 6.06 again...01:57
ScorpKingok01:57
level1groeg: usually thats controlled by the hardware though01:57
groeglevel1: sorry...just thought you didn't see it01:57
bigleonScorpKing yeah gotta love my luck with linux01:57
_2thus i was wondering if anyone had ever worked with such an issue.   if maybe flushing the nic before power off would help...01:57
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ScorpKingbigleon: i'm sure there's a way to install via ftp.01:57
dthacker_2: that's wacky.01:57
draikHello everyone. How is everyone doing today/tonight?01:58
_2dthacker meaning ?01:58
dthackermeaning based on my limited knowledge, it shouldn't do that.01:58
groeglevel1: i bet it's hardware controlled but for instance there's a program for sony vaio laptops: fansilencer01:58
_2of course it shouldn't.  but it does.01:58
dthackerwacky can be a technical term :)01:58
bigleonLevel1 when i use that alternate disk i'm going to need to install something b-4 i run that right?01:58
groegisn't there one that works for my laptop also?01:59
level1bigleon: wait, what?01:59
level1groeg: well, a vaio and a toshiba are different01:59
bigleonlevel1 i'm getting that alternative install, so i need to install a particular driver b-4 i should run the install right?01:59
ScorpKingbigleon: not that i know of.02:00
draikAnyone here know about installing/running/using Yellowdog in PS3?02:00
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level1bigleon: well, the alternate install cd won't give you a chance to do that.  What you should do is install, try to boot your newly installed ubuntu, and then if it doesn't boot, theres things you can do02:00
_2dthacker linux also leaves code in one of my cdrom drives which causes "boot failure" in windows.  requires hard reset to correct.02:00
bigleonwtf my wget keeps stopping after a few moments02:00
level1bigleon: use kget or something02:00
bigleonkget command not found02:01
_2although i boot that box to that os so seldomly that it isn't an issue to me.02:01
level1bigleon: are you on the command line?02:01
bigleonyup02:01
level1bigleon: why not just boot into X?02:01
bigleonhuh?02:01
level1bigleon: switch to vesa02:01
bigleonwell i'm on my 6.0602:01
level1bigleon: X is the substructure that allows kde or gnome to run02:02
level1bigleon: I'm pretty sure 6.06 had X02:02
bigleonyea02:02
ScorpKingbigleon: do a google search for installation instructions of the older versions of ubuntu. back then it was mostly an alternative install cd.02:02
bigleonwell 6.06 works on my laptop02:02
level1not an expert02:02
_2level1 only if you install X  :)02:02
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dthacker?02:02
bigleonokay... alright02:02
bigleonlevel1 you running e1705 right?02:03
level1wait, was that version delayed?  it should be 6.0402:03
level1bigleon: yeah02:03
_2dthacker give me a sec i'll check02:03
bigleonso what did you do to get 7.04 running?02:03
level1bigleon: run it?02:03
bigleonyou just put the disk in and it worked first try?02:03
dthackerbigleon: I loaded it. and it worked.02:03
level1bigleon: oh, right, I had to install fglrx from the command line to get the cd to boot02:03
level1dthacker: you have that laptop?02:04
bigleonokay what do i need to write when i'm in command line02:04
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_2dthacker LNT40302:04
bigleonand then what?02:04
level1bigleon: sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx02:04
dthacker_2: googling02:04
bigleonand then?02:04
level1boot?02:04
_2dthacker  2.6.15-28-386 kernel02:04
bigleonso when i boot up the disk02:05
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(bigleon/#kubuntu) yeah there was nothing there for me intelikey04:05
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mrksbrdok i got my router to connect but will not assign an ip address....any ideas????04:06
bigleonset up your DHCP mrksbrd04:06
bigleonyou ought to just set that stuff up manually04:06
mrksbrdshould auto dhcp04:07
bigleoni'd turn off dhcp and set it manually04:07
mrksbrdok let me try...brb04:07
bigleonGood luck04:07
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rgrolemundwell so far with the ps2 mouse everything still working04:08
rgrolemundthe usb mouse woulda locked up by now04:08
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intelikeyrgrolemund then i sujest that it's probably something that kubuntu does to try to auto/detect/mount usb things that is causing the issue with your sub mouse.04:11
rgrolemundya04:11
rgrolemundaltough my keyboard isusing the same wireless device and nvr locks up04:11
intelikeypossable memory leak,  or something respawning to quickly...04:11
rgrolemundodd eh?04:11
BluesKajnite all , sacktime here04:12
rgrolemundnight blue04:12
ScorpKingnight04:12
intelikeynot really odd.  just 'notable'.04:12
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rgrolemundso its not the usb locking up, just the mouse ceasing to work04:13
intelikeyyes, seems that way.04:13
rgrolemundu think it is compiz though?>04:13
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intelikeyi wouldn't put it past it.   try using the usb mouse and not running compiz   see what it does.04:14
bigleonhey scorpking if you ever find people having problems with dellwireless mini card send them here. http://dhashi.wordpress.com/2007/06/10/ubuntu-704-on-a-dell-inspiron-710m/04:14
ScorpKingwill remember that. thanks04:14
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rgrolemundwill try that intel04:15
bigleoni'm going to start making a collection of "usefull" links as i go through with my comp04:15
rgrolemundapprec the advice04:15
intelikeyScorpKing i'm having problems with dellwireless mini card, any clues ?04:15
intelikey:)04:15
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XeroHooray for K!04:15
ScorpKinglol. nope, nothing here. :P04:15
bigleonRofl04:15
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intelikey:)04:15
bigleonYou should add that to bot haha04:16
bigleonDellMiniWireless issues :D04:16
ScorpKingshort term sellective memory04:16
joseph_hello everyone04:16
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bigleonhello Joseph how can we help you?/04:16
intelikeyyou can submit it.    'ubotu DellMiniWireless is ....'04:16
contrast83Greets, everyone...04:17
joseph_nothing really...just watching what people are saying...f04:17
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bigleonubotu DellMiniWireless  You can find assitance to install you card on Fiesty at http://dhashi.wordpress.com/2007/06/10/ubuntu-704-on-a-dell-inspiron-710m/04:17
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joseph_installed today04:17
intelikeyjoseph_ i'm a first time linux user too...04:17
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contrast83Does anyone know if it's possible to get a package made with Checkinstall to work with an APTonCD disc?04:17
bigleonlike that?04:17
bigleoni'm so confused i need more caffine04:17
rgrolemund2 weeks on linux here04:17
ScorpKing!DellMiniWireless04:18
bigleoni'm watching mission impossible while working on my computer lol04:18
rgrolemundmicrosoft finally made me mad enough04:18
joseph_i am loving it so far04:18
intelikeyScorpKing the request will havc to be approved first.04:18
enoteei just  azune  can i use it with amarok04:18
bigleonlol04:18
enoteei just a zune  can i use it with amarok04:18
ScorpKingi see. lol. <ubotu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)04:19
bigleonRofl04:19
bigleonit should have something like "Hey Enistine did you try Google?"04:19
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ScorpKinglol04:19
bigleonjust finished MI 1 off to MI 2 woot04:19
Daisuke-Laptophi everyone, long-time listener, first time caller04:19
hitmanWillyi think the #debian bot has that...lol04:20
rgrolemundlol04:20
intelikeybigleon that's #debian mentality.   abuse the poor till they no longer trubble your channel.04:20
joseph_hello daisuke04:20
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Daisuke-Laptopi was just wondering, linux can do everything else for me, can it get bloodstains out of a bearskin rug?  please hurry, i can already hear the sirens >_>04:21
Daisuke-Laptop...and everything gets very very quiet...04:22
coreymon77bigleon: and for you, it should of said something like "Hey Einstein, did you try learning how to spell?"04:22
bigleonbrb04:22
ScorpKinglol04:22
coreymon77Daisuke-Laptop: ...04:22
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Xerocoreymon77, and for you, it should have something like "You're a prick!"04:22
Daisuke-Laptopo_O04:22
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coreymon77Xero: wow, thats a little harsh04:22
Daisuke-Laptopthat wasn't appropriate04:22
Xerolol04:23
n8k99Daisuke-Laptop: are you using a Raiser File System?04:23
ScorpKingXero: be nice04:23
coreymon77Xero: everyone here knows that it was just a friendly joke04:23
XeroI just don't like it when people pick on others for spelling.04:23
coreymon77right everyone?04:23
Daisuke-Laptopn8k99: someone caught it!04:23
intelikey!conduct04:23
ubotuThe Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/04:23
ScorpKinglol04:23
coreymon77hey, i make typos too04:23
=== ScorpKing can't spell eithr...
shindahey guys, i know this is a noob question but how do I get to my KDE panel settings (not the settings dialog you get when you right click the panel and go configure), but the dialog that lets me select between indiviaul pannels and configure each04:23
n8k99Daisuke-Laptop: i had that problem before, Google is your friend04:23
hitmanWillyman, i can't believe i missed the reiser joke04:23
bigleonalright i'm back04:24
XeroWe all make typos...04:24
coreymon77and when i do, people are free to crack a joke at me04:24
Daisuke-LaptophitmanWilly: they should be able to find out what happened to nina very easily, go through the journal04:24
intelikeyXero not me, i just can't spell.04:24
bigleonand trust me i always get corey back :D maybe not now, but i will04:24
hitmanWillyXD04:24
intelikey:)04:24
Daisuke-Laptopactually, i'm trying to figure out why i can never get svideo working04:25
shindanvm got it, kcontrl for thsoe interested04:25
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ScorpKing:D04:25
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intelikeyshinda you can do that from the right click also.04:25
steven_Found the compiz fix in the forums.  Apparently you have to reset the settings to the default after this latest update04:26
shindaintelikey - It doesn't give me the option to select between the different pannels just shows me information for the default pannel04:26
intelikeypossably more obscure, but it's there04:26
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Daisuke-Laptopintelikey: he's right, it isn't04:27
intelikeywell.   let me recant.   can on all ubuntu/kde up to and including dapper.  i haven't seen anything after that.  so it "could" have changed.     (but it didn't)04:27
shindaintelikey, check it out because for me theres no drop down list like there is in kcontrol, all the other dialogs are the same just missing that one list04:27
contrast83shinda: Have you restarted KDE since adding/removing panels? Sometimes the configuration dialog doesn't recognize new ones until you do that (or you might also just try running "dcop kicker kicker restart")04:27
Daisuke-Laptopi had that problem working with multiple panels in kde, it's only available through kcontrol04:27
Daisuke-Laptopintelikey: it did change04:28
gibIs anyone in here running 64-bit Firefox?04:29
rgrolemundya04:29
shindacontrast83, no never restarted but ya that may just be it, but Kcontrol seems to be a much more convinient option, but one question anyone know how I can have 2 panels on the same level? like I want two pannels to take up the top row each at 50% (I'm using dual monitors so want to have a kicker bar on each screen.04:29
Daisuke-Laptopunfortunately04:29
cranei downloaded tcl8.4.9-src.tar.gz to my desktop... I am trying to figure out exactly how an where i want to extract this too an how to compile it correctly... any help please?04:29
intelikeyDaisuke-Laptop when ?04:29
Daisuke-Laptopshinda: you cannot do that04:29
gibHave you had issues with 128 bit encryption?04:29
rgrolemundnewp04:29
Daisuke-Laptopintelikey: apparently with edgy or feisty04:29
Daisuke-Laptopthe multiple panel options are not available anywhere but kcontrol04:29
contrast83KControl pwns System Settings04:29
intelikeydon't think edgy   heard to much about the bug in edgy.04:29
rgrolemundonly probs i have are streaming content04:30
contrast83Daisuke-Laptop: Umm... Sorry, but you're wrong (unless you're speaking strictly for yourself, and if that is the case on your system, something's wrong).04:30
gibMy uncle can assess his bank account fine with Firefox on his 32-bit system, but not with Firefox on his 64-bit system.04:30
rgrolemundweird04:30
rgrolemundya i check by bank account daily04:30
flaccidcontact bank04:30
rgrolemundkubuntu 7.04 amd6404:30
craneany help please?04:30
flaccid!ask04:31
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:31
Daisuke-Laptopcontrast83: um, no, no i'm not, but thanks for playing, here's your consolation prize.04:31
intelikeyinteresting.   they nuked a config option because it required a kicker restart....   not very consistant of kde     or did the  ubuntu team do that...  that would be consistant of them.04:31
rgrolemundlol04:31
Daisuke-Laptopand yes i have restarted kicker since then04:31
craneI asked an hour ago waited for a response nothin so i asked again nothin for a bit so then i asked for help pls.. so sorry04:31
gibHmm.  I'm not sure what else would cause the difference.  I even got flash working for him with the wrapper.04:32
flaccidcrane: yeah you only need to ask once04:32
rgrolemund[21:29]  <crane> i downloaded tcl8.4.9-src.tar.gz to my desktop... I am trying to figure out exactly how an where i want to extract this too an how to compile it correctly... any help please?04:32
flaccidgib: bank probably doesn't support04:32
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cranethat was the second time rgrolemund04:32
bigleonScorpking i don't think you really love us04:32
=== contrast83 adds a new panel, runs "dcop kicker kicker restart", right-clicks the panel, clicks Configure Panel, and sees the Settings for: <Panel> pull-down list.
intelikey!b-e04:33
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)04:33
ScorpKingbigleon: :P sais who?04:33
bigleonsays me04:33
bigleon:D04:33
intelikeycrane - rgrolemund ^04:33
rgrolemundno no i was copying his04:33
ScorpKingbigleon: then it doesn't count. :D04:33
rgrolemundi know how to compile :P04:33
bigleonlol04:33
rgrolemundwell, before i get yelled at again04:33
rgrolemundis alien ok to use?04:34
ScorpKinglol04:34
contrast83Daisuke-Laptop: Maybe your kickerrc got borked somewhere along the lines, because I've *never* had that problem.04:34
intelikeyrgrolemund yes i saw that it was a copy.    that's why i included you with his post.04:34
rgrolemund*hides*04:34
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gibflaccid, what specifically would the bank need to do differently to support 64-bit vs 32-bit?04:35
intelikeyso that rather than taking over,   i could just point both of you at that link and let you help him rgrolemund04:35
contrast83In the one or two times I've used Alien, I haven't had problems with it.04:35
gibI'd think that should be transparent04:35
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intelikeydragonsfoot would be a good name ?04:36
Daisuke-Laptopcontrast83: just because you haven't had the problem doesn't mean the problem doesn't exist.04:37
flaccidgib: nothing. still doesn't support them US sniffing etc. what actually happens... why does it actually not work04:37
flaccidUS sniffing= UA string sniffing04:37
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gibIt doesn't give any error message, login is simply never succeeds, but works fine with 32-bit.04:38
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contrast83Daisuke-Laptop: I didn't say that, but over the course of dozens of different Kubuntu installs on nearly ten different computers, I'd say that if you run into it, something preventable is going wrong somewhere. Just trying to help, man. :-)04:38
flaccidwhat does never succeeds mean?04:38
flaccid!doesntwork04:38
ubotuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.04:38
rgrolemundif i miss something sorry, switching back and forth between irc and world of warcraft04:39
ScorpKinglol04:39
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rgrolemundlol04:39
rgrolemundya really04:39
contrast83Does anyone know if it's possible to get a package made with checkinstall to work on an APTonCD disc, or how one could add dependencies to a package when making it with checkinstall?04:39
Daisuke-Laptopcontrast83: by default, kicker doesn't have multiple panels, so over the course of dozens of installs on nearly ten different computers, unless you're customizing kde well beyond the norm, you wouldn't run into that problem.04:40
gibI didn't do it first hand, I'm just going by what he tells me:  that he can get on every time with 32-bit, and never with 64-bit.  Asked if he gets any error messages and he said no.04:40
contrast83I customize KDE well beyond the norm. ;-)04:40
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SUb-IN-aclsevening04:40
rgrolemundyo sub04:41
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SUb-IN-aclsi have a question about madwifi04:41
shindaDaisuke-Laptop looks like you can get them at the same level, you just need to enable hiding on the panel04:41
bigleonscorpking say what?04:41
flaccidgib: well that doesn't help. we don't even know the actual behaviour..... try UA spoofing...04:41
ScorpKingbigleon: as little as possible. :P04:42
gibI could try to log on myself, I suppose but I really don't want to know it account info/password, and have access to her personal info.04:42
bigleonI'm going to start my theme project tommrow probbaly :D04:42
gibhis04:42
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ScorpKingbigleon: lol. keep me posted.04:43
bigleonwill do04:43
bigleoni'm prolly going to get a freeweb site up for the project04:43
flaccidgib: no required. ask him what is actually happening instead of 'it doesn't work'04:43
craneok i read that site and it didnt tell me anything i dont already know04:43
craneI keep getting an error when trying to compile04:43
craneand I dont understand it04:43
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contrast83crane: Could you pastebin the error?04:44
cranechecking system version (for dynamic loading)... ./configure: line 7338: syntaxerror near unexpected token `)'04:44
crane./configure: line 7338: `       OSF*)'04:44
ScorpKingbigleon: there are some available with up to 200MB space and no popups/ads04:44
flaccidif you don't understand compiling probably something you shouldn't /need to be doing04:44
contrast83crane: What are you compiling?04:44
flaccidcrane: yeah we don't help with compilation generally here as kubuntu uses packages04:44
dimsumi get these error when running adept: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1), any workaround?04:44
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contrast83!adept-fix04:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about adept-fix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:45
craneflaccid: actually I am trying to learn things... I am sure linux developers like people trying to learn how to use the stuff they develop04:45
contrast83!adeptfix04:45
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 04:45
bigleonreally? would you pm the link?04:45
flaccidcrane: yeah, but this is kubuntu support channel..04:45
ScorpKingbigleon: if i can find it. gimme sec...04:45
flaccidcrane: ##linux04:45
contrast83crane: What are you trying to compile?04:46
cranetcl04:46
gibThat's easier said than done.  :)  I'll try again, but he's had a brain injury and dyslexia to boot, so it's hard getting accurate info out of him.04:46
Daisuke-Laptopjust install from the repos04:46
contrast83Is it a stable release, or bleeding edge?04:46
flaccidcrane: why do you need to compile it. its in repos.04:46
Daisuke-Laptoplearning compilation is nice, but there's *no reason to*04:46
craneI did however the repos does not have the version i need04:46
dimsum@ubotu, this is one of the error message: dpkg: error processing ttf-opensymbol (--configure):04:47
ScorpKingbigleon: see /pm04:48
rgrolemundo.O04:49
cranethanks everyone i figured out the problem04:50
rgrolemundcool04:50
contrast83crane: What was it?04:50
pillowpantsboy, automatix seems pretty shady04:51
cranefor some reason the tar file i downloaded was corrupted/missing a file... I just redownloaded from another place an it worked fine04:51
pillowpantsafter looking at it, i dont advise its use04:51
cranenever ran into a problem like that04:51
contrast83I was thinking it'd be something like that. From my (albeit very limited) experience, syntax errors usually means something's wrong with whatever you're trying to compile.04:52
bigleonsetting up account, i'll have my forums up by tommrow hopefully04:52
ScorpKing:D04:53
ScorpKingsend me the link.04:53
bigleonyeah04:54
bigleoni have my domain dtgaming.com but i don't think that fit my theme so i'm gonna get a free subdomain04:54
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linuxbiealgun viruker en esta noche04:55
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ScorpKingbigleon: you can get free domain names as well.04:55
naknomikDoes kubuntu support a 3D desktop like Ubuntu does with Compiz?04:55
nb72compiz works on kubuntu as well, I'm running it now04:56
craneScorpKing: where do you get free domain names?04:56
DragnslcrYes, Beryl and Compiz run on KDE04:56
naknomiknb72: Dragnslcr: how do I install those? Is there an option like 'Desktop Effects' in Kubuntu?04:56
ScorpKing.za.org or .za.net is free04:56
NickPrestalinuxbie, which language?04:57
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bigleonnot a free .com04:58
ScorpKingtrue04:59
bigleonTheBigleonProj.anything would rock lol04:59
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nb72naknomik: depends a bit on the hardware.  video card04:59
ScorpKingbigleon: got my other pm?04:59
naknomiknb72: I have nVidia GeForce4 MX 400 AGP 8x card.04:59
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contrast83Does anyone know if it's possible to get a package made with checkinstall to work on an APTonCD disc, or how one could add dependencies to a package when making it with checkinstall?05:00
bigleonYeah05:01
bigleonScorpking you got some type of IM?05:01
ScorpKingAIM and yahoo05:01
bigleonyahoo: bigleon505:02
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ScorpKingadded to contacts05:03
gibI've never had a single problem with Automatix on any machine I've ever installed it on, but it most of it's functionality is not build right into gutsy, so there won't be much need for it anymore.05:03
bigleonhmm send me a msg so i can add you to mine05:03
flaccidgib: never say never05:03
intelikey!automatix05:03
ubotuAutomatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)05:03
gibis built05:03
intelikeygood read.  http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html05:03
contrast83indeed05:03
gibKubuntu has never broken for me on any machine with, or without automatix.05:04
flaccidgib: does that mean it will never do it for any user or?05:06
hydrogenflaccid: of course!05:07
hydrogenjust like i've never had a hard drive go bad on me05:08
hydrogenso theres no need for anyone to make backups05:08
flaccidlol05:08
gibIt's pretty much of a non-issue now anyway with gutsy including it's functionality.05:08
flaccid'i've never had a problem', 'which means you never will too' *wink*05:08
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flaccidor 'ive never had a problem', 'its absolutely crazy that you are!, its impossible coz i don't!'05:09
intelikeyshucks: looks like i missed a good rant...05:10
gibNo, but it is also true that many things have been blamed on automatix that weren't it's fault.  I'm not saying no problems are caused by it, but I know for certain that many problems have been blamed on by certain people that just automatically blame any problem under the sun on it when they hear someone is using it.05:10
flaccidwith all respect, you don't sound like a tech savvy person gib05:11
flaccidgeneralisations are useless. the proof is in the pudding.05:11
intelikeyand why not.   if the policy is to not support something, and you here that that something is involved, then you don't try to sort out whether or not it's that particular something's fault you just mention that it's the reason that you wont help and move on...05:12
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flaccidyeah and if we condone it then it only encourages it05:13
intelikeyyeah.05:13
gibTalk about generalizations! Sheeeh.  My point is not about the technical merits of Automatix, or how good or bad it is or isn't but that some people have a hard on for it and attack it at every possible opportunity.05:13
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underdog5004anyone know how to burn a .cdr file?05:14
pillowpantsroot@HELGA:~# glxgears05:14
pillowpantsXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".05:14
pillowpantsError: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual05:14
pillowpantswhat does that mean05:14
intelikey!language | gib tone.05:14
ubotugib tone.: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.05:14
flaccidgib: it deserves to be attacked and killed.05:14
flaccid!pastebin > pillowpants05:14
intelikeyor fixed. ^05:14
naknomikHow do I get a 3D desktop for kubuntu?05:15
pillowpantssorry flaccid05:15
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contrast83pillowpants: Any reason you're running that as root?05:15
flaccidit forks debian system to begin with, so i wouldn't think fixing it would be a good thing at all05:15
intelikeypillowpants i get the exact same error.05:15
pillowpantsbecause recovery mode is root05:15
pillowpantsmy xserver crashed, so i needed the command line05:15
contrast83ohh, got cha05:15
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pillowpantsand startx in recovery mode takes you to recovery05:16
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flakeI've got like 2 extra harddrives, is it possible to format them and make them as one large 'individual' harddrive?05:16
daSkreechnaknomik: What kind of 3d desktop?05:16
intelikeyand glx* doesn't work outside of X     what did i miss ?05:16
naknomikDaSkreech: like compiz or beryl on gnome05:16
coreymon77hi everybody!05:17
daSkreech!beryl05:17
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects05:17
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underdog5004!lvm | flake05:18
ubotuflake: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO05:18
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contrast83naknomik: My personal recommendation: http://forum.compiz-fusion.org/showthread.php?t=198505:19
coreymon77rgrolemund: you still there?05:19
naknomikcontrast83: compile packages? naah... too tough for me05:20
ubuntubest linux  version for  a slower computer05:20
intelikeyanyway pillow  possably the glx module isn't loaded in the xorg.conf due to runlevel 1 ???   idk.05:20
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intelikeyi can't even confirm what runlevel i'm in.05:20
flaccidi wouldn't run X under root or recovery mode05:20
flaccidis it even possible?05:20
contrast83naknomik: That how-to walks you through everything step-by-step. I felt the same way as you about it at first, but now I swear by that guide. :-)05:20
intelikeyflaccid yes it is05:20
flacciddang05:21
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intelikeyand i would start X as root if it was not starting for user  to see if it was a local or system problem05:21
flaccidthe Xorg.0.log or output should be enough to clarify that05:22
intelikeyof course that precludes the use of ?dm05:22
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daSkreechnaknomik: Have you tried to compile?05:22
naknomikDaSkreech: no.05:23
contrast83naknomik: The next best thing: http://forum.compiz-fusion.org/showthread.php?t=315305:24
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naknomikHow do I get the nvidia-glx installed?05:25
contrast83naknomik: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx05:25
daSkreechnaknomik: So how do you know it's too hard?05:26
naknomikcontrast83: that is done. what next?05:26
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intelikeyisp playing havoc with my connection again05:26
contrast83naknomik: run this: grep "nvidia" /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:26
contrast83naknomik: What driver does it say from that?05:27
intelikeystill think it may be an attack....    lot's harder for me to track with dnsmasq ip forwarding and the like...  while i was dirrect to the isp it was easy to see what caused the reset.05:27
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linuxbie ppero  lloo nnecessiittoo ppaara  ttrraabaajjar05:27
naknomikcontrast83: nv05:28
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naknomikcontrast83: do I also need to install nvidia-xconfig?05:28
contrast83naknomik: open that file in a text editor as root and replace that with nvidia05:29
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hitmanWillynaknomik, it comes with the nvidia-glx pkg05:29
contrast83naknomik: you can. it gives you some options for configuring the card (anisotropic filtering/anti-aliasing levels, etc.)05:29
contrast83oh, whoops05:29
hitmanWillycontrast83, and you're thinking of nvidia-settings05:29
contrast83and whoops again. sorry. :-\05:30
hitmanWillycontrast83, which also happens to be included05:30
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naknomikhitmanWilly: when I installed nvidia-glx it didn't pull any other packages.05:30
contrast83naknomik: it's included in that package05:30
hitmanWillynaknomik, they aren't seperate pkgs05:30
naknomikcurrently only nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-common are installed05:30
contrast83that's all you need05:31
sarosetHelp, I'm completely lost as to how to install this graphics driver.05:31
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=== intelikey would like to play with those glx things....
=== intelikey has nvidia agp card.
naknomikcontrast83: OK, s/nv/nvidia/05:31
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naknomiknow?05:31
rgrolemundwhat card do u haver?05:32
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rgrolemundhave*05:32
intelikeyriva12805:32
rgrolemundic05:32
flakehow could I mix two outputs from two different computers into one set of speakers05:32
rgrolemundif u want a good card that's supported and cheap05:32
naknomikcontrast83: Now just restart x?05:32
rgrolemundxfx 7600gs05:32
rgrolemund$11505:32
CombatjuanCould someone explain to me what the difference is between /usr/local and /usr/ and /usr/share or between local and share in general?05:32
CombatjuanIt seems certain programs prefer to be in a certain spot or at least certain linux distros prefer certain thing.  I can't figure out the pattern though.05:33
intelikeyrgrolemund your idea of cheep and mine seem to contrast greatly.  i have spent $0.00 in my life time on computer hardware.  and intend to keep it that way.05:33
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rgrolemundlol05:33
flaccidCombatjuan: man hier05:33
daSkreechflake: A splitter05:33
flaccidCombatjuan: its distro dependant05:34
sheldoncIs adept still maintained?05:34
daSkreechsi05:34
Combatjuanflaccid: Thanks!05:34
flakedaSkreech - a radioshack item?05:34
rgrolemundtest05:34
rgrolemundwhoops05:34
daSkreechflake: yup05:34
flakecool, thanks05:35
intelikeyCombatjuan google.com/linux "linux file system higherarchy"05:35
intelikeyerr but use correct spelling05:35
rgrolemundintel.......only i can see what u just said right? (been away from irc soo long renewbified)05:35
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intelikeyrgrolemund anything in the channel can be viewed by the channel05:36
rgrolemundok05:36
rgrolemundthen whats command for that?05:36
intelikey"that" ???05:36
rgrolemundya, ur page to me05:36
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intelikey/msg blah something05:37
intelikey?05:37
rgrolemundoh ya05:37
rgrolemundlol05:37
rgrolemundty05:37
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intelikeynp05:37
rgrolemundbefore this past week, last time on IRC was 200005:37
rgrolemundo.O05:37
intelikeyi picked up about where you left off05:38
rgrolemundso a little rusty05:38
rgrolemundlol05:38
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intelikeybeen a first timmer on linux ever sense05:38
intelikey:)05:38
rgrolemundlol05:38
rgrolemundi knew it05:39
rgrolemundi messed with red hat back in late 90's but was against anything but windows (which i was support for)05:39
rgrolemundhave come around since then05:39
Okapihello to all05:39
intelikeyand you admit that ????05:39
intelikey:)05:40
rgrolemund:*( sorry05:40
rgrolemundi have learned my lesson05:40
intelikeyOkapi05:40
hydrogenwindows is the future05:40
hydrogenright now we are on a pleasent diversion05:40
rgrolemundO.O05:40
hydrogenembrace the borg05:40
rgrolemundrofl05:40
OkapiIf I re-install Kubuntu Feist , do I will loose everything I have now?05:40
rgrolemundstar trek?>05:40
hydrogenOkapi: yea05:41
intelikeyhydrogen only if i can access sector 0.0.0.005:41
rgrolemundanyhow once I feel comfortable enough with linux my boss is ok with dumping windows all together @ work05:41
daSkreechOkapi: did you have a /home partition ?05:41
rgrolemundeven our servers05:42
Okapiyes05:42
Okapidarskreech:yes05:42
daSkreechOkapi: ok You don't have to lose that stuff05:42
Okapidarskreech: explain how and why? please05:43
intelikeyrgrolemund good.   may i sujest something less "cutting edge"  or in linux terms, "non-flavour of the month club"  for the servers     and no, i don't intend to be specific...05:43
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daSkreechOkapi: when you are installing you can just say that partition is /home and should not be formatted05:45
Okapidarskreech: cool! and thank you.05:45
daSkreechOkapi: Sure.05:45
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daSkreechOkapi: you can make a list of what you have installed as well if you wanna back that up05:46
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garfielddaSkreech:  for the skydom in beryl what do they mean the demension have to be a power of 2 i.e 1024?05:47
naknomikdaSkreech: OK, looks like now I got the nvidia-glx installed and working. Now what?05:48
daSkreechgarfield: the image has to be some power of 205:48
Okapidarskreech: actually I have a problem, my synaptic do not update my system. it is keep saying my system is up to date....05:48
daSkreechOkapi: You have a blank sources.list I'll bet05:48
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etherCan someone tell me if I'm missing anything?05:49
Okapidarskreech: I think you are right and just saw it. I am gone update it and try...05:49
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garfieldOkapi: well its up to date no?05:49
flakelol ScorpKing - what's that?05:49
garfieldScorpKing:  for the skydom in beryl what do they mean the demension have to be a power of 2 i.e 1024?05:50
ScorpKinghuh? lol05:50
Okapigarfield: I do not think so. It is about a week I did not update it...05:50
naknomikcompiz-fusion?05:51
flakegarfield - sounds like any picture you use has to have a resolution of a power of 2?05:51
garfieldOkapi: are u a kubuntu user or ubuntu?05:51
Okapigarfield: kubuntu05:51
garfieldflake: so insted a pic is like 500x400 it got to be 1000x800?05:52
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flakeman i hate that - I closed VLC but the music is still playing.. time to kill05:52
flakegarfield - power of 2, not sure how to calculate that, but  1024 sounds like one05:52
flakeso 1024x102405:53
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flakeor 1024x768 (if 768 is power of 2, my math fails me)05:53
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flakedont think 768 is05:53
flakethose numbers tho05:53
garfieldk05:53
flakehttp://en.wiki.mcneel.com/default.aspx/McNeel/BackgroundBitmap.html05:54
flakegarfield ^^05:54
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flakeanyone know why vlc keeps playing when I close it, is there a simple setting05:55
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rgrolemundare you not actually closing it, but minimizing to system tray?05:55
intelikeyflake sure it's not closing to the taskbar/systray05:55
intelikey?05:56
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flakeI hit the 'X' and it goes away but music keeps playing in background05:56
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rgrolemundya ur sending to sys tray05:56
intelikeythat can be configured within vlc's config05:57
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flakeheh, now it closed05:58
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flakemakes a fool of me it does05:58
flakeas if I needed any help with that05:58
intelikey:)05:59
rgrolemundlol i have asked help on worse05:59
coreymon77rgrolemund: pm05:59
kkathmanevenin all05:59
intelikeywhere's my c:\ drive ???05:59
ubunturoskkathman: it evening in?05:59
coreymon77intelikey: in linux?05:59
kkathmanTexas :)05:59
ubunturosintelikey: there's no C: \ drive in :)06:00
intelikey:>~'c:\'06:00
daSkreechintelikey: Fdisk06:00
intelikeythere is now.06:00
ubunturosin GNU/Linux06:00
intelikey:)06:00
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intelikeyrun that and C :)06:00
intelikey:>~'c:\'06:00
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garfield??06:00
Okapidarskreech: What about reinstalling on the same partition...without formatting them? I will still loose information?06:00
naknomikI installed beryl-kubuntu (and dependencies) now how do I get beryl to load?06:01
intelikeyone could mkdir ~'c:\'    in sted06:01
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intelikeyand actually mount an M$ partition on it ....06:01
garfieldnaknomik: alt+space bar type beryl06:01
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naknomikgarfield: there is only beryl settings manager no 'beryl'06:02
hydrogenprobably better to start beryl-manager06:02
ubunturosnaknomik: you should probably see a menu within the K-menu06:03
garfieldnaknomik: do u have the red crystel in k-menu settings?06:04
naknomikI did apt-get install beryl manager, now it is. I ran beryl manager. but all window decorations are gone now.06:04
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garfieldnaknomik: lol did the red crystal apair in your bar down to the right?06:05
naknomikyes, it did.06:05
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rgrolemundwow that was weird06:06
garfieldnaknomik: right click it "select window manager <beryl06:06
rgrolemundmouse didn't lock up but wireless keyboard starting hitting random keys06:06
bigleon!adept06:06
garfieldrgrolemund: ???06:06
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto06:06
garfieldbigleon: ??06:07
naknomikgarfield: as soon as I select window manager=beryl, all window decorations are gone again.06:07
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MarcChow do I mount a samba share?06:07
intelikeyah ha it's the ole wireless keyboard random keys bug06:07
ubunturosnaknomik: Video card?06:07
rgrolemundlol ur joking right/06:07
naknomiknVidia GeForce4 MX 40006:07
intelikeyignore me.06:07
rgrolemundlol06:07
intelikey:)06:07
rgrolemundi am laughin pretty good here06:08
ubunturosnaknomik06:08
garfieldnaknomik: did the windows come ack?06:08
garfieldback*06:09
naknomikgarfield: windows are there, the decorations are gone06:09
garfieldnaknomik: lol06:09
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hydrogennaknomik: you need either kde-win-decorator or aquamarine isntalled06:09
MarcC!samba06:09
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT06:09
hydrogenor emerald I suppose06:09
ubunturos!emrald06:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about emrald - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:09
naknomikgarfield: I have aquamarine installed06:09
hydrogenthen run it06:09
ScorpKingcheers everyone! have fun and plz don't break anything. :P06:09
intelikey!emerald06:10
hydrogenalt+f2, aquamarine06:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about emerald - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:10
garfieldnaknomik: when u mean deco u mean like the minimize,close icons?06:10
ubunturosgarfield: yes, he does06:10
naknomikgarfield: yes, the frames around windows, title bar and the minimize, close icons. gone06:10
garfieldubunturos: who does?06:10
ubunturosgarfield: naknomik06:11
naknomikgarfield: I can move windows with Alt-Left Click. They do wobble.06:11
naknomikubunturos: ?06:11
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hydrogendid you run aquamarine?06:11
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daSkreechHi bigleon06:12
garfieldnaknomik: right click beryl "select window manager">kde06:12
naknomikIf I run aquamarine from an xterm, I get error: Could not acquire decoration manager selection on screen 0 display ":0.0"06:12
intelikeyubunturos if no one else will ignore us, we can always ignore each other   :)06:12
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xp_killer:(06:12
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ubunturosintelikey: :)06:12
ibilicwhat is in /dev/hda?06:13
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naknomikgarfield: if I select window manager kde, the decorations come back, but I lose the 3d effects too.06:13
ibilicI am following this tutorial06:13
ibilichttp://www.advicesource.org/ubuntu/Run_Existing_Windows_Instalation_On_Ubuntu_With_Vmware_player.html06:13
xp_killeribilic: one of your hdd06:13
intelikeyibilic every thing in /dev is device nodes  hda would be the first ide disk06:13
intelikeyprimary master ide06:14
ibilicbut when I get to ?06:14
ibilicType "quit" in parted and make copy of MBR. Copy-paste this command into console:06:14
ibilic"dd if=/dev/hda of=windowsxp.mbr bs=512 count=63"06:14
ibilicI get stuck06:14
ibilicit says:06:14
intelikeytry sda in place of hda06:14
ibilicdd: opening `/dev/hda': No such file or directory06:14
intelikeyor hdc   even06:15
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xevioushow can i open konqueror (in file manager mode) as root under kubuntu?06:15
intelikey!kdesu | xevious06:15
ubotuxevious: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo06:15
xp_killer!sda06:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sda - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:15
ubunturosxevious: issue the command kdesu konqueror at the command prompt06:16
xp_killer!hda06:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hda - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:16
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xp_killerarf06:16
ibilicI am browsing my dev folder06:16
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intelikey!devices06:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about devices - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:16
xp_killernaknomik: did everything come back?06:16
ibilicI have: bus, disk, fd, input, net, pts, shm and snd06:16
intelikeyibilic i wouldn't   jsut cat /proc/partitions06:16
naknomikxp_killer: yes06:16
naknomikbut beryl effects are gone06:16
intelikeysee what the device is.06:16
MarcChow do I restart the network?06:16
ibilic( just so that you know, I am a complete newbie... installed Kubuntu today )06:17
MarcCerrr...restart network services in Kubuntu06:17
pillowpantsfixed my driver problems06:17
ubunturos!etc/rc06:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about etc/rc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:17
pillowpantsgave up on the old fashioned way and used envy06:17
intelikeyMarcC /etc/init.d/network* [stop/start/restart] 06:17
ibilicso I am trying to run a virtual machine of windows under Kubuntu06:18
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MarcCthanks intelikey :)06:18
ibilicI don't understand why they are assuming that I have windowsxp.mbr under kubuntu...06:18
intelikey:)06:18
hydrogenno06:18
hydrogenthey are telling you to make it06:18
hydrogenby copying the first 512 bytes off of your windows hard drive06:19
naknomikaquamarine keeps dying.06:19
ibilicbut my windows hard drive is not mounted06:19
hydrogenwhich is not going to be at all helpful if you overwrote your boot record with grub06:19
hydrogenlike ubuntu does06:19
hydrogenibilic: it doesn't need to be mounted06:19
intelikeyibilic it doesn't need to be munted06:19
intelikeyditto06:19
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xp_killernaknomik: try like me i had allmost the same problems with beryl working bad try disableling graphics etc in sys settings etc then manage beryl settings manager enable crash handler in development06:20
ibilicis there a disk manager in ubuntu? like for me to see all the partitions?06:20
hydrogensomeone already told you06:20
hydrogencat /proc/partitions06:20
hydrogenits probably sda06:20
hydrogenits not going to be that helpful though because you overwrote the mbr with grub06:21
intelikeyis there an echo in here ???06:21
intelikey:)06:21
saroset_Ok, anyone know anything about installing a driver? I tried to follow the online guide but it does some things I cant seem to do.06:21
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hydrogenthats quite a vague question06:21
hydrogeni've installed a driver at one point or another06:21
hydrogenbut that doens't mean I can help you06:21
saroset_nVidia GeForce 6800 driver.06:22
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daSkreechhydrogen: isn't there one in System settings?06:22
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daSkreechI'm almost sure of it06:22
xp_killerlol06:22
ibilic   8     0   78156288 sda06:22
ibilic   8     1   52403998 sda106:22
ibilic   8     2    2032222 sda206:22
ibilic   8     3   22683780 sda306:22
ibilic   8     4          1 sda406:22
ibilic   8     5    1028128 sda506:22
ibilic   8    16   78156288 sdb06:22
hydrogen@@@06:22
intelikeysda06:22
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hydrogendown!06:22
hydrogensaroset: sudo apt-get instlal nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable06:22
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nalioth!paste06:23
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:23
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Ic3manhi06:23
sarosethydrogen, thank you.06:23
intelikeynalioth's back06:23
tazgodxumm, i was watching a video in VLC and i closed it, and now i have the audio still playing. anyw ay to kill this audio?06:23
naliothintelikey: i've never left06:23
ibilicso I just replace the "hda" with "sda"? ok I'll try it06:23
intelikeyoh.   ;/06:23
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VnzlaguyHi06:23
Vnzlaguyi need help06:23
naliothtazgodx: open a console and type "killall vlc"06:23
hydrogen!help06:23
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots06:23
Vnzlaguyi'm trying to install kubuntu06:23
hydrogen!ask06:23
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)06:23
intelikeywell welcome back to where you never left nalioth06:23
Vnzlaguykkk06:23
naliothintelikey: :)06:24
tazgodxsays no process killed :(06:24
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Vnzlaguyok i'm getting this warning The file system on /dev/hda2 assigned to / has not been marked for formatting. File systems used by the system (/, /boot, /usr, /var) must be reformatted for use by this installer. Other file systems (/home, /media/*, /usr/local, etc.) may be used without reformatting06:24
naknomikCan I upgrade to Gutsy from Feisty? I'm running Kubuntu06:24
Vnzlaguyi don't know what should i do there06:24
hydrogennaknomik: you probably shouldn't.06:24
daSkreechVnzlaguy: Set the partition you have marked as / to format06:24
naliothnaknomik: yes, but we recommend you wait until the official release06:24
daSkreechnaknomik:06:24
daSkreechYes06:24
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Vnzlaguyko06:24
ibilicit worked, thanks!!!06:24
Vnzlaguythat's it?06:24
daSkreechVnzlaguy: yup06:25
Vnzlaguyyay it worked06:25
Vnzlaguythanks a lot06:25
daSkreechnaknomik: Though asking that question probably means you shouldn't :)06:25
xp_killernaknomik: wait untill november06:25
naknomikI'm running on a "play" machine, if something breaks I'll reinstall everything.06:25
intelikeyVnzlaguy unless you are intentionaly protecting data on the /  then format it.06:25
Vnzlaguynah06:25
Vnzlaguythe other partition is where i have my music06:25
daSkreechxp_killer: Umm the 10th isn't november06:26
naknomikI want to try KDE 4 Beta 206:26
daSkreechnaknomik: There is a live Cd you can run06:26
Vnzlaguyhow long this should take?06:26
hydrogenyou can do beta2 in feisty06:26
naknomikdaSkreech: LiveCD of KDE 4?06:26
intelikeyand i hope that they change that in the installer.   installers for linux should NOT demand a clean root fs   a request is fine but being unflexable is not.06:26
daSkreechnaknomik: yes06:26
xp_killerdaSkreech: they say the end of october but is best is she wait and ask question u never know if it haves a huge problem06:26
daSkreechVnzlaguy: blazing fast06:27
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naknomikhydrogen: I followed the directions but KDE 4 doesn't seem to be working.06:27
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daSkreechVnzlaguy: the entire install is about the time it takes windows to do the format06:27
Vnzlaguyit's on 24% already (:06:27
hydrogenintelikey: err, its much better to demand a clean one than to possibly overwrite half of the files and cause a superb0rked system06:27
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xp_killerdaSkreech: like the first time xp came out did u install it one time?06:27
Vnzlaguyyeah haha06:27
rgrolemunddaSkreech; tru dat06:27
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intelikeyhydrogen not in my assessment of it. it's not.    tell me what you think i should do, then do what i say.06:28
daSkreechxp_killer: I don't recall installing it at all06:28
intelikeyhydrogen if i wanted a windows installer i'd install windows06:28
MarcChow do I type a folder name with spaces in it on the command line06:28
rgrolemundlol06:28
MarcC?06:28
flakewhy is the new nvidia driver 100.14.11 and mine is 1.0.97, legacy is 1.0.9606:28
hydrogenintelikey: right.. but no installer should do things that are known to be a bad idea06:28
MarcCI need to mount a folder but it has spaces in the name.06:28
flaccidMarcC:  use \ but can tab complete using tab06:29
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rgrolemundintel; u kill me man06:29
MarcCflaccid: My\ Music ?06:29
rgrolemundgot me rollin06:29
intelikeyhydrogen wrong.   no installer should refuse to do what the user tells them to.06:29
flakewhat is IA32 and how is that different from x8606:29
MarcCI didn't know it could tab-complete the name of a windows share06:29
hydrogenintelikey: sure it should06:29
intelikeygripe complain   fine.   but do it anyway.06:29
flaccidMarcC:  yeah06:29
naknomikI followed the directions on the kubuntu page, to get KDE 4, I have added it as a new session, when I login with that session, I get a big panel with two big blobs and a text 'This object could not be loaded' No K menu, no task bar, or nothing else.06:29
intelikeyhydrogen why ?06:29
hydrogenintelikey: the majority of people using said installer are not knowledgeable about what they are doing to be given the power to make bad decisions06:30
LiquidXTCanyone here fluent with airmon-ng, some of the issues, and could give me a hand??06:30
intelikeyhydrogen i see, you have the "the poor fools are to stupid to use their computers, so we have to protect them from their selves." attitude.   sorry but i'm one of the poor fools and you are too, so that don't wash in my book.06:31
flakewell I'm off to upgrade from 1.0.97 to 100.14.11, wash me luck06:31
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daSkreechLiquidXTC: With what?06:32
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=== xp_killer im going to take a break to watch some cartoon >_< here i come naruto
naknomikhydrogen?06:33
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hydrogennaknomik: that is kde4 beta206:34
hydrogenin all its glory06:34
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hydrogenno error on your part06:34
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Vnzlaguyif i mount my hard drives that are on NTFS will i lose my information there?06:35
hydrogenno06:35
daSkreechVnzlaguy: don't write to them :)06:35
xp_killerlol06:35
hydrogenwriting is fine06:35
level1hi, does anyone here know how to connect to efnet?  all of their servers reject me06:35
hydrogenjust use ntfs-3g06:35
emonkeyhmm kde4 ... dows anbody knwo why I've got just two strange widgets at the the bottom with the message "this object could not be created" ?06:35
daSkreechYou can but with a warning06:35
xp_killerwrite write write write write write write write write write write write write06:35
flaccidVnzlaguy: no06:35
hydrogenemonkey: because thats kde4 beta206:35
Vnzlaguyok06:35
emonkeyhydrogen, k 06:35
hydrogenemonkey: you can still run kde4 apps in it06:35
flaccidntfs-3g is pretty stable now06:36
level1emonkey: lol, it'll get better, we swear!06:36
naknomikhydrogen: is it broken on Feisty?06:36
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xp_killerflaccid: ntfs-config06:36
hydrogennaknomik: it's broken on  everything06:36
hydrogenits not just feisty06:36
emonkeyhydrogen, level1 no problem I'm just testing it here on my surftstation06:36
hydrogenyea06:36
hydrogenbut do test out the not-desktop :)06:36
hydrogenkdegames4 is very nice06:36
xp_killerkubuntu remind me of xp everytime it crashes06:37
LegaHello.06:37
emonkeyreally... maybe I should reactivate kicker06:37
flaccidxp_killer: wh are you talking to me?06:37
hydrogenkdebase is kind of riddiculous in size though06:37
LegaAnyone particularly want to help out a linux n00b?06:37
Vnzlaguyyou are not alone haha06:37
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emonkeyjust and we'll see if we can help06:38
LegaHaha, well, at least I'm not the only one...06:38
hydrogen!ask06:38
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)06:38
xp_killerflaccid: if u keep telling other ntfs-3g they will only install that wich is a bad thing it's best if they install ntfs-config06:38
level1hydrogen: our !ask is much nicer than the #java ~ask06:38
LegaWell, I want to be able to login as root user. Just plain root, not as root in the console, but root overall.06:38
flaccidxp_killer: incorrect, they should follow the howto on the wiki06:38
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hydrogenLega: no you don't.06:39
flaccidwhere can i d/l openssh-server pacakge manually for dapper?06:39
LegaOh, wait, I just had an idea.06:39
flaccidcan't see link to .deb here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/net/openssh-server06:39
Legahydrogen: Why not?06:39
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hydrogenLega: there is absolutely no reason to run it as root06:39
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hydrogenand there are plenty of reasons ont to06:39
LegaI think it'd be far more useful to be root and not have to type in my password for every little thing.06:39
emonkeyLega, if really want to activate root, it's very simple06:39
hydrogenmm06:40
hydrogenno06:40
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hydrogenbecause if your running as root06:40
hydrogenand you are running an app that has a security hole06:40
hydrogenof which there are many06:40
LegaAh...06:40
LegaI see your point.06:40
hydrogenand it gets exploited06:40
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hydrogennow the person has root access06:40
hydrogeninstead of limited access06:40
LegaRight... :E06:40
intelikeyLega there is a setting in kcontrol that will allow root login through kdm    setting the root password is as simple as    sudo passwd    and enter the new password.    but it is not a really good idea to use gui apps as root   nor to login as root in general    but esspecially  DO NOT run internet apps as root.06:40
LegaHmm, well, I think I just thought of a way past my problem.06:41
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emonkeyif you just want to have a root shell, use the sudo -i command06:41
LegaIs it bad to sudo su whenever I run a console?06:41
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hydrogenLega: I think that you can increase the sudo timeout to 24h (or never) so you only have to enter your password once06:41
flaccidLega: yes06:41
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hydrogenLega: yea, you should at least do sudo su -06:41
intelikeyLega depends on what you do in that console06:41
MeowmixiscooBig problem.06:41
hydrogento get a root environment06:41
hydrogenbut sudo -i is a shortcut for that06:42
flaccidsudo -i is handy06:42
hydrogenas sudo -s is a shortcut for sudo su06:42
MeowmixiscooI tried that thing for my drivers and now it wont load. It just goes to a black screen that I can type in.06:42
=== Lega checks out sudo --help.
LegaAlso... Super Karamba is a little wonky.06:42
intelikeyLega   man man    or    man intro06:42
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LegaWhy use man instead of --help?06:43
intelikeytry it and see06:43
hydrogenit looks like you can visudo and set passwd_timeout = 006:43
LegaOh, online reference manuals.06:43
intelikeymore info    authors notes.  search feature06:43
hydrogenin some cases06:44
hydrogenand in some cases --help is more up to date06:44
hydrogenits kind of hit or miss :06:44
hydrogentry both06:44
hydrogenand combine the two06:44
intelikeyin some cases hydrogen i agree.06:44
hydrogenjesus06:44
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intelikeybut some commands --help yelds nothing06:45
pillowpantsdoes anyone know the name of the opensource limewire?06:45
pillowpantsits called frostwire or something along those lines06:45
LegaI don't really understand what sudo -i does.06:45
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emonkeyMeowmixiscoo, can you specify your problem more exactly?06:45
intelikeymakes it a login shell06:45
hydrogenLega: its the same as su -06:45
LegaBut I shouldn't be doing sudo su, then passwording, and then running around in that terminal as a root, right?06:45
pillowpantswait, that is it06:45
LegaOh.06:45
intelikeyi.e. the root env06:45
LegaOh, okay.06:45
hydrogenyou can do that if you want06:45
[ifr0g] pillowpants, yes you are right FrostWire.06:46
CU1Hi - How does one mount the cdrom drive??it will mount ok upon boot, but the is no longer mounted at some pont till reboot.06:46
LegaIs there anything bad/dangerous about doing it like there is with running root in GUI?06:46
MeowmixiscooNot really =/. I tried to update my nVidia drivers with a command someone gave me in this channel and now Kubuntu just goes to a black screen with a command line that doesn't display or respond to anything.06:46
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daSkreechlevel1: what's jave ~ask ?06:46
Lega*the gui06:46
hydrogenLega: the same things06:46
MeowmixiscooI started in recovery mode and that works.06:46
LegaAh. :\06:46
hydrogenLega: you really should only be root to do things that you can't do as a normal user06:46
LegaYeah... I think I just got into the habit instead of prefacing everything with sudo.06:47
intelikeyLega yes.   root is unrestricted,   that is you can fix or break anything from root   that's not true with user accounts.06:47
emonkeyMeowmixiscoo, who gave you which command?06:47
intelikey!virus06:47
ubotuA/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2106:47
MeowmixiscooHydrogen. It did update something.06:47
daSkreech!frostwire06:48
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire06:48
intelikeyLega maybe you should read   http://librenix.com/?inode=2106:48
LegaI'll get on that, thanks. :D06:48
Legachmod is the command to change permissions on a folder, right?06:48
hydrogenyea06:48
emonkeyMeowmixiscoo, Did you changed from nv to nvidia, do you know that?06:48
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Meowmixiscooemonkey, huh?06:49
CU1Help please - How mount cdrom, using perhaps Konqueror? thx06:49
LegaSee, the problem I'm having is, I just mounted an external harddrive into /mnt/harddrive/, and I can't browse it in the gui as my normal user account because I don't have the right permissions.06:49
daSkreechLega: the difference is that in a GUI you have many things running most of which you did not explictly start as that user (though they are running as that user)06:49
emonkeynv ist the opensource nvidia driver, nvidia the priprietyr one06:49
hydrogenCU1: navigate to cdrom:/ in konqueror06:49
hydrogenLega: you need to mount it with the user option06:50
level1daSkreech:  actually, I'm wrong, ~ask is very mean, but some of the other stuff that goes on in that channel is downright abusive06:50
daSkreechLega: in the command line you have many things running as that user but you know you started them and >hopefully< what they are06:50
hydrogenLega: assuming its in /etc/fstab, just add ,user to the fourth column06:50
LegaLemme check...06:50
hydrogenand then you can mount as the user06:50
daSkreechlevel1: Thank goodness we use python then eh ?06:50
etherIf I have a http/dns server connected to the WAN port of a router, what do I need to do to make the other computers on the router connect to that server?06:50
CU1hydrogen: Thx, but doesn't work - nolthing shows up there.06:50
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level1daSkreech: I love the language, but the support sucks and the ides are pretty bad06:50
emonkeyMeowmixiscoo, if you type lspci|grep VGA in a console what does it say?06:51
hydrogenCU1: what kind of cd is it?06:51
CU1hydrogen: also /media/cdrom0 - same thing06:51
level1~ask isn't very mean, I meant to say06:51
rafaelhmm how do i put my monitor resolution at the max?06:51
daSkreechlevel1: I thought the eclipse was like the mercedes of FOSS IDEs?06:51
CU1hydrogen: it's a sw cd with windows application sw, labview, , notfrom microsoft,06:51
LegaI have no idea what I should do with this fstab file. :E06:51
CU1hydrogen: it will mount at boot, buth then the mount goes away, even though the cd is still in the drive,06:52
naknomikis there a 'Weather' applet on Kubuntu like in Ubuntu?06:52
hydrogenLega: look for the line that has /mnt/harddrive06:52
intelikeyLega also, don't misunderstand me, i do NOT think that the ubuntu "root jr." approach is any safer than a secure root password and using su -   the best way would be to setup sudoers correctly.    as is, in some cases; it gives a false sense of security. (imo)    but i do understand and concent to the idea that doing most things as root is a bad idea period.06:52
Meowmixiscoo01:00.0 VGA ompatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV41.1 [GeForce 6800]  (rev a2)06:52
level1daSkreech: i don't like eclipse, its very confusing, and on a default install of ubuntu its very slow beacuse of gij06:52
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hydrogenLega: each line has columns separated by tabs06:53
CU1hydrogen: is there a tool to cause a cdrom to be mounted? I'd have thought konq would have that ability.06:53
daSkreech!fstab06:53
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions06:53
hydrogenLega: the form is something like <device> <TAB> <mount point> <TAB> <file system> <TAB> <options> <TAB> <other things>06:53
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jordo23Jucato: Hey Jucato....long time no see....06:53
Legahydrogen: I don't see the /mnt/harddrive/ in there, though.06:53
hydrogenyou need to edit the options column06:53
hydrogento include ,user06:53
level1CU1: it should be mounted when you try to open it in konqueror, does that not work for you?06:53
hydrogenLega: then you might need to add it..06:53
intelikeyCU1 jsut mount it.   alt+f2  mount /dev/cdrom06:54
hydrogenLega: how do you usually mount the drive?06:54
LegaI just figured out today how to mount the drive.06:54
hydrogenhow do you do it?06:54
LegaLemme find the command real quick...06:54
intelikeyhydrogen just a though but user,users,  is a good idea06:54
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CU1level1: I browse in konq to /media/cdrom0, or /cdrom - the directory is empty06:54
LegaOkay, I did this:06:55
Legamkdir /mnt/harddrive/06:55
jordo23Has there been problems with Konqueror and the latest Adobe flash release? 9.0.48?06:55
level1CU1: hmmm... that shouldn't be06:55
rafaelHello i need help with my Geforce 7 video card driver06:55
rafaelcan someone help me out?06:55
hydrogenintelikey: well, they appear to be mutually exclusive (after reading the mount page) but I dind't know what users did before now :)06:55
Legamount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt/harddrive06:55
hydrogenLega: okay06:55
level1CU1: are there any other folders with names like /media/cdrom-1 or something?06:55
hydrogenLega: so, what you need to do06:55
hydrogenis add a line to the bottom of /etc/fstab06:56
hydrogenthat looks like this06:56
CU1intelikey: THANKS  - THAT DID IT  - "mount /dev/cdrom0"  :)06:56
intelikeyhydrogen hmmmm maybe one of those "out of date" things you mentioned...06:56
as2000suggestions on a good firewall/antiv software?06:56
intelikeyCU1 welcome06:56
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hydrogen /dev/sda1<TAB>/mnt/harddrive<TAB>ntfs<TAB>defaults,users<TAB>0<TAB>006:56
Doctor_Nick!rms06:56
uboturms is Richard Matthew Stallman, founder of the GNU project. See !gnu and also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman06:56
hydrogenreplace <TAB> with a tab obviously ::)06:56
level1as2000: I'm always skeptical that you would ever need it, I mean, linux isn't perfect, but really there are almost no attacks on linux06:57
jordo23Intelikey: Have you updated flash to 9.0.48?06:57
level1!torvalds06:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about torvalds - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:57
level1are you kidding me?06:57
daSkreech!info vrms06:57
ubotuvrms: virtual Richard M. Stallman. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.12 (feisty), package size 11 kB, installed size 108 kB06:57
hydrogen!linus06:57
naknomikWhy doesn't Kubuntu come default with Firefox?06:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about linus - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:57
naknomikKonqui keeps crashing when I visit gmail.06:57
level1daSkreech: the debian !vrms is very funny06:57
daSkreechlevel1: yet :)06:57
hydrogennaknomik: because konqueror is way more cool06:57
LegaOkay, so now it should give me access to /harddrive/ as a normal user?06:58
as2000level1: never too careful06:58
level1naknomik: you can download firefox pretty easily06:58
emonkeyMeowmixiscoo, sorry... had to go to toilet ... ok... you've nearly the same card like me...06:58
hydrogenLega: yea06:58
naknomikhydrogen: Konque keeps crashing06:58
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hydrogenLega: after doing that, as a normal user you will be able to mount /mnt/harddrive06:58
Meowmixiscooemonkey, any idea what's up with it?06:58
hydrogennaknomik: thats because google is a bunch of commies06:58
hydrogenand deliberatly breaks browsers that are not firefox/ie06:58
level1naknomik: its not added because we would have to add a lot fo other technology like gnome to fit it in there, and there just isn't enough space on the cd06:58
jordo23!konqueror06:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about konqueror - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:58
jordo23!flash06:59
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash06:59
Legahydro: should it work instantly, or do I have to restart kde or anything?06:59
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LegaOr do I have to unmount/remount the drive?06:59
hydrogenLega: it should work instantly06:59
emonkeyMeowmixiscoo, type cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf|grep nv and tell me what does it say06:59
hydrogenLega: you need to unmount the drive as root06:59
hydrogenthen mount it as a user06:59
level1naknomik: you can just "sudo apt-get install firefox" and you should be good to go06:59
rafaelhow do i log as root?06:59
daSkreechhydrogen: they break them with some reason though06:59
MeowmixiscooDriver   "nvidia"06:59
intelikey!root | rafael07:00
uboturafael: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo07:00
daSkreechrafael: most logs are done as root07:00
rafaelok07:00
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Legaumount is the unmount command?07:00
naknomikIs there a 'Weather' like applet on KDE?07:00
jordo23intelikey: Have there been problems with flash 9.0.48 and konq?  Been outa the loop for a bit....07:00
daSkreechLega: I know worst command name ever07:00
hydrogenLega: yea07:00
rafaeli'm trying to configurate my video card and also my monitor07:00
intelikeyjordo23 haven't been seeing many07:00
emonkeyMeowmixiscoo, that's good... hmm did you install nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new?07:00
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LegaHaha, yeah, trying unmount over and over to no avail... XD07:00
MeowmixiscooI dont know =/.07:01
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jordo23intelikey: I go to youtube and it says I need to upgrade before viewing videos....07:01
daSkreechnaknomik: Right click the taskbar -> add applet -> weather07:01
jordo23intelikey: although firefox works fine....07:01
intelikeyjordo23 there are some web sites that are not standards compliant  konq is standards compliant     ff is not.07:01
jordo23intelikey: Is there a way around this?07:01
level1jordo23: I can veiw youtube in konqueror... theres a secret to it, you wanna know?07:01
hydrogenthat depends on the standard :)07:02
naknomikdaSkreech: there is no applet called weather, that I could find in the list.07:02
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emonkeyhydrogen, do you already knwo what you've done with Meowmixiscoo ? Especially which driver he has installed.07:02
jordo23level1: umm....07:02
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hydrogenemonkey: nvidia-glx07:02
LegaArgh...07:02
MeowmixiscooI was on the name saroset07:02
level1jordo23: go to configure konqueror07:02
intelikeyjordo23 perhaps, set konq to id as ff ?     it will work on some of them.07:02
LegaIt says only root can mount.07:02
level1jordo23: go to plugins (at the bottom)07:02
hydrogenLega: type just mount /mnt/harddrive07:02
hydrogennot the whole command07:02
level1jordo23: click scan for new plugins07:02
level1jordo23: restart konqueror07:03
emonkeyMeowmixiscoo, please type lsmod | grep agp an tell me the result07:03
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intelikeyjordo23 ah i see level1 has picked you up there    good.07:03
LegaWell, it mounted correctly...07:03
hydrogen?07:03
LegaBut it is still not allowing me access as normal user.07:03
Meowmixiscooemonkey, agpgart         35400  1 nvidia07:03
hydrogenwho did you mount it as?07:03
LegaNormal user.07:03
jordo23intelikey level1: Umm....yeah.....that didn't work..07:03
hydrogenwho did you make the mount point as?07:04
level1jordo23: are you serios?07:04
LegaI'm sorry?07:04
hydrogentry this07:04
emonkeyMeowmixiscoo, do you know if you have a Asus K8V-X SE or a Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe mainboard?07:04
daSkreechnaknomik: umm check adept ?07:04
jordo23level1: Yes....(I know to try that too)... :)07:04
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hydrogensudo chown <YOURUSERNAME>: /mnt/harddrive07:04
Meowmixiscooemonkey, I don't know. Only thing I know about it is that it is a nVidia board.07:04
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level1jordo23: this is more than your everyday annoyance07:05
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LegaChanging ownership of '/mnt/harddrive': read only file system.07:05
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jordo23level1 intelikey: Didn't think of trying browser ID though...that worked... thanks guys...07:05
hydrogenLega: mm07:05
hydrogenLega: umount /mnt/harddrive first07:05
hydrogenthen try that07:05
level1jordo23: yeah, browser id is probably konquerors most important feature07:05
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jordo23level1: Yeah....got so comfortable for a while, forgot you could change it....oops07:06
level1is there a way I can add torvalds to the list of ubotu factoids? it seems like an awful ommision07:06
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emonkeyDoes anybody know a command which we can check what mainboard we have?07:06
mefisto__is there a gui for changing user passwords?07:06
LegaWas chown supposed to be done in root?07:06
hydrogenmefisto__: user manager in system settings07:06
hydrogenLega: yea07:07
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mefisto__thanks hydrogen07:07
hydrogenor with sudo07:07
daSkreechemonoes  to mindkey: lshw comes07:07
level1jordo23: konqueror would be great if its rendering engine didn't blow up on non-standard complaint pages (not konqs fault, but still)07:07
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intelikeyi think hydrogen is still trying to crack my server....07:07
hydrogencourse I am!07:07
daSkreechemonkey: lshw comes to mind07:07
intelikey:)07:07
LegaArgh, still permission denied.07:07
hydrogenright after I crack my pillow07:07
hydrogentime for bed07:07
hydrogenkn807:07
hydrogensorry lega07:07
daSkreechLega: What did you mount as?07:07
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hydrogensomeone else will help you i'm sure07:07
jordo23level1: Yeah.....Konq is my favorite browser of all time. I hope they don't ditch it in KDE 4. I know it'll be there, but I hope they still develop and refine it...07:08
Meowmixiscoolshw just spammed me with a ton of info07:08
LegaIt is alright, thanks for all your help! :D07:08
daSkreechLega: this is Fstab ?07:08
LegaYes.07:08
daSkreechMeowmixiscoo: sorry "_"07:08
intelikeyLega  let me ask again in case you saw my q and i didn't see your answer.    what fs is that  ntfs vfat ext# rieserfs ???07:08
daSkreechlshw | less07:08
emonkeydaSkreech, thx I'll try out07:08
Legantfs, intelikey.07:08
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level1jordo23: I'm not sure about the introduction of dolphin either, but it probably just means that konqueror will become more specifically a browser, which isn't bad07:08
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naknomikI installed kweather but it doesn't show up in the applet list.07:08
LegaSo I unmounted as normal user, then sudo chown <username>: /mnt/harddrive/, then I mounted.07:09
LegaWait.07:09
intelikeyumask=22207:09
LegaI might have it.07:09
level1naknomik: well, you might have to log out and log back in, or restart kicker07:09
MeowmixiscooThe only identifier there is a bunch of stuff about it being a Dell computer =/07:09
pillowpantshow do you uninstall from the shell?07:09
LegaUgh, nope.07:09
jordo23level1: I think it is....because I like the way Konq is like a swiss army knife....I like when one app does the work of three or for.....imo....07:09
pillowpantsdpkg --uninstall?07:09
intelikeyor    umask=000,ro07:09
LegaStill no permission as normal user into the harddrive.07:09
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naknomiklevel1: can I restart kicker without disrupting running programs?07:09
flakethat was an exercise in futility07:10
intelikeypillowpants apt-get remove blah07:10
Jucatonaknomik: yes07:10
pillowpantsintelikey: thanks07:10
Jucatonaknomik: Alt+F2, dcop kicker kicker restart07:10
level1jordo23: yeah, i'm disappointed that they will be moving more stuff to external viewers... konqueror is really a veiwer at heart, its like taking away its soul07:10
flakethank God for stuff like putty and shared drives07:10
jordo23level1: When you enable Desktop Sharing in Kubuntu.....is there a way that you can have it accept connections automatically? So i can connect to tightvnc at work etc?07:10
Jucatohi jordo2307:10
LegaHmm... hmm. I have no clue.07:10
rrbizsomeone know which one of those ugly gstreamer files is for MP3's ?07:10
level1jordo23: I donno, I use ssh for that stuff, am i'm not very good at it07:10
jordo23Jucato!!07:10
Jucato:)07:10
jordo23Jucato: Do you use vnc in Kubuntu?07:11
Jucatorrbiz: if you're on Kubuntu, using Amarok/Kaffeine with Xine, you don't need/want those gstreamer things07:11
Jucatojordo23: sorry, nope07:11
intelikey!info sshfs | jordo23 here's a thought,07:11
ubotujordo23 here's a thought,: sshfs: filesystem client based on SSH File Transfer Protocol. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6-1 (feisty), package size 29 kB, installed size 116 kB07:11
level1naknomik: I don't know what the command is, but maybe "killall kicker && kicker"07:11
Meowmixiscooemonkey, found my info07:11
Jucatolevel1: [13:10]  <Jucato> naknomik: Alt+F2, dcop kicker kicker restart07:11
jordo23intelikey: Will look into it...thanks intelikey.....07:11
jordo23Talk to you all later.....07:12
intelikeyjordo23 that will use public keys also07:12
jordo23going to bed.07:12
LegaOkay, everything is unmounted for now.07:12
Jucatonight jordo2307:12
emonkeyMeowmixiscoo, cool and know do you know at least the vendor of the motherboard?07:12
jordo23intelikey: will do....thanks.07:12
MeowmixiscoonVidia07:12
level1Jucato: oops, missed that07:12
intelikeywelcome07:12
jordo23Jucato: night...07:12
naknomiklevel1: I tried both none work. Kicker is gone after killall kicker, but running kicker again I get message that it's running already, when it is not.07:12
level1naknomik: oops07:12
daSkreechlevel1: They moved one thing from Konqueror!07:12
rrbizJucato: i'm using amarok, trying to stream the cool playlists, and keeps erroring out saying i have no demux for it, already dl gxine also and still no07:12
Jucatorrbiz: libxine-extracodecs07:13
emonkeyMeowmixiscoo, not the graphixccardboard, the motherboard it should be at the top of lshw command, somethin like that:07:13
emonkey  *-core07:13
emonkey       description: Motherboard07:13
emonkey       product: 26478BG07:13
emonkey       vendor: IBM07:13
level1daSkreech: ?07:13
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naknomiklevel1: OK, waiting for sometime and then running kicker again got me my kicker back.07:13
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Jucatonaknomik: the dcop command I gave didn't work?07:13
daSkreechrrbiz: just click on it again07:13
daSkreechrrbiz: I have no idea why it does that07:14
naknomikJucato: no.07:14
MeowmixiscooProduct: OXH241 Vendor: Dell Inc.07:14
level1naknomik: actually, I had just that happen to me too today... funny that you can "killall" a program and it'll still take its sweet time07:14
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emonkeyMeowmixiscoo, hmk... some oem product I think... should be no problem. (in most cases)07:14
intelikeylevel1 use a higher priority signal07:15
LegaArrrgh.07:15
rrbizokay, already had libxine-extracodecs, now after i closed it out another time, it finally started streaming, cool thnx07:15
intelikey-6  -9  -1507:15
rafaelwhy whenever i change settings they are never applied?07:15
emonkeyMeowmixiscoo, one soltuion is maybe to deactivate the propritary driver and using the OSS driver07:15
daSkreechrrbiz: Yeah no idea07:15
intelikeyprogressive ^07:15
rrbizyeah odd07:15
Meowmixiscooemonkey, worth a shot. So... How would one go about doing that >.<07:15
LegaSo any ideas or not really? I've learned a lot of things so far, at the least. :D07:15
daSkreechrrbiz: I just click it when the error comes up click it again07:15
intelikeyLega may i see the line that describes it in your fstab ?07:16
daSkreechLega: give me the line  that you use to mount07:16
daSkreechYeah that thing :)07:16
LegaOkay, the fstab line is as such:07:16
Lega"/dev/sda1/mnt/harddriventfsdefaults,users00"07:16
LegaEr. Tabbing screws up.07:16
LegaOne sec.07:16
intelikeyok. you need some masks07:16
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emonkeyMeowmixiscoo, to activate the OSS driver just edit "nvidia" to "nv" in the xorg.conf file. You've to edit with root privileges. use sudo vi of you know vi, otherwise open a root kate with kdesu kate07:17
daSkreechumask=002207:17
Lega"/dev/sda1<tab>/mnt/harddrive<tab>ntfs<taB>defaults,users<tab>0<tab>0"07:17
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LegaWhat is a mask?07:17
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intelikey"/dev/sda1       /mnt/harddrive  ntfs    defaults,users,fmask=133,dmask=022,ro  0       0"07:17
daSkreech!umask07:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about umask - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:17
intelikeyif you are using the ntfs-3g driver or fuse  you can drop the ,ro07:18
LegaI know not what you speak of either in reference to ntfs-3g or fuse.07:18
intelikey!ntfs-3g07:18
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions07:18
intelikey!fuse07:19
ubotuFUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) is a !kernel driver that allows non-root users to create their own filesystems. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE.  Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here:  http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems07:19
LegaInteresting.07:19
intelikeythat   ^    but07:19
LegaFar too over my head at the moment, though. :E07:19
intelikeyjust add the things i added and try it07:19
LegaOkay.07:19
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flakeanyone else having trouble installing nvidia 100.11.14 drivers?  I think it's trying to tell me I don't have a GPU but my card is in the supported list07:19
Daisuke-Idowhat card?07:20
LegaYessssssssssssssssss.07:20
level1flake: I expirienced random crashes and lockups with that version... your experience may vary07:21
flake6800 GT07:21
intelikeyit is read only.   that's for the fs's own good.07:21
flakeor GTX maybe07:21
LegaLike magic, intelikey, like magic.07:21
intelikeyit is read only.   that's for the fs's own good.07:21
Daisuke-Idoflake: why are you even trying to install those super-new drivers?07:21
LegaRight.07:21
Daisuke-Idothey offer you nothing.07:21
flakeok, i'll keep my 1.0.9707:21
LegaOh... I need to copy something off of it.07:21
level1Daisuke-Ido: because new stuff is cool07:21
LegaHmm. :E07:21
flakelol07:21
LegaI'm elated that I can get to it, though.07:21
Meowmixiscookate gives me an error: cannot connect to X server07:21
Daisuke-Idonvidia-glx will work for you07:21
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LegaActually, I might not.07:21
Meowmixiscooand I have no idea how to use vi07:21
flakecause it's supposedly the supported stuff07:21
LegaThanks very much. :D07:21
Daisuke-Idoif you MUST, you can go with nividia-glx-new07:22
intelikeyyou're welcome07:22
naknomikWhat is the Dock Application Bar?07:22
Daisuke-Idoflake: installing the drivers from the site isn't supported, they're in the repositories.07:22
LegaIf I would like to be able to copy something off of it, how many hoops would I need to jump through?07:22
flakeohh07:22
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daSkreechLega: Just copy07:22
LegaI can do that?07:22
Meowmixiscooemonkey, any other ideas?07:22
LegaCool.07:22
Daisuke-Idoflake: trust me, you will have a lot less headaches.07:22
LegaMan, I took so much for granted using windows. >.<07:23
emonkeyMeowmixiscoo, do you know nano or another command line based editor?07:23
LegaLoving Kubuntu so far, though.07:23
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flakeI'm in that redhat mood I guess07:23
Meowmixiscoonope, but I'm not put off to learning.07:23
Daisuke-Idoflake: understandable07:23
daSkreechLega: I know :)07:23
LegaOh, there is one more thing that is probably really quick, dealing with super karamba.07:23
Lega:D07:23
Daisuke-Idomost of what you'll ever need is in the repos (20k+ packages)07:23
emonkeyMeowmixiscoo, and did you try K-Menue > rund command > kdesu kate?07:24
level1Meowmixiscoo: "editor" is pretty user freindly as command line editors go07:24
LegaI restarted kde using the ctrl+alt+backspace, and when I started everything back up, Tweaker Moniter in super karamba was missing.07:24
flakerepo says I have it installed, which I did manually so I'm good I think07:24
MeowmixiscooI don't have a gui. I'm having to run in the recovery mode07:24
LegaAnd when I went to reinstall it from the "get new things" button in Karamba, the install button was greyed out.07:24
Daisuke-Idoflake: as long as you're using 'nvidia' in xorg.conf, you should be fine07:25
LegaI have no idea where the Tweak moniter is residing on my system, or how to get Karamba to recognize it again.07:25
Daisuke-Idoedit.exe07:25
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Daisuke-Idobrings a tear to my eye every time07:25
naknomikWhat is Dock Application Bar?07:25
intelikeythat's really starting to tic me off.07:25
Daisuke-Idobut then again, so does quickbasic07:25
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ScorpKinghi dwidmann07:26
LegaAh. Well, I'll fix that one another day.07:27
emonkeyMeowmixiscoo, if you ant to try a command line editor try nano, vi or editor (thy level1 ), we'll help you using it07:27
Meowmixiscooemonkey, I have nano up.07:27
LegaI'm off, many thanks for all your help intelikey and Skreech~07:27
level1don't forget emacs!07:27
n8k99no no forget emacs07:27
emonkeyMeowmixiscoo, go down to the driver section and replace "nvidia" with "nv"07:28
n8k99<_<07:28
intelikeyi'm thinking about changing OS's07:28
Meowmixiscooemonkey, you're a couple steps ahead of me.07:28
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daSkreechVista!07:28
emonkeyMeowmixiscoo, ok  tell where you are07:28
intelikeyat least it's not bloated.07:29
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emonkeyMeowmixiscoo, ou of course you've to open the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file first07:29
emonkeyyou can open it with nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:29
intelikeyas root07:30
djfito1HOLA ALGUIEN DE MEXICO07:30
intelikey!es | djfito107:30
ubotudjfito1: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.07:30
mefisto__or sudoedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:30
djfito1GRACIAS07:30
flakeevery time I reboot, I have 2 internal drives I have to give a password for before I can browse/use them on the system.07:30
emonkeymefisto__, intelikey would be grat if you can takeover Meowmixiscoo because I've to go to the university ...07:31
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intelikeyflake nice.  how did you set that up ?07:31
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flakeI don't remember, I know I used some gui tool called NTFS config tool07:31
kirkHey everyone07:32
intelikeyflake ah.  never seen that myself,  it's later than dapper07:32
intelikeykirk07:32
flakewhere can I find my 'mounts'07:32
intelikeycommand   mount07:33
kirkare you trying to add another hard drive?07:33
daSkreechflake: type mount07:33
intelikeydf -h07:33
intelikeycat /proc/mounts07:33
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intelikeycat /etc/mtab07:33
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intelikeypick your take....07:33
emonkeyMeowmixiscoo, if you have opened the file and edited like I'm wrote. save and close the file and do a normal reboot. hopefully it works. If there more problem, ask again in here. Unfortunately I've to go to university07:33
flakeahh07:33
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ScorpKingflake: take a look at /etc/fstab as well, maybe there is some mount options there that cause that. not sure where you have to type the passwd.07:34
Meowmixiscoo__emonkey, modem died.07:34
emonkeyMeowmixiscoo, have a good day and good luck with your driver problem.07:34
Meowmixiscoo__kk, thanks =] 07:34
emonkeysorry but I really have to go know..07:35
emonkeybye07:35
Meowmixiscoo__Cya.07:35
intelikeyC++ya07:35
Meowmixiscoo__lol07:35
flakeI think I see now, I have to put the entry(s) from /etc/mounts into /etc/fstab07:35
ScorpKingno07:35
ScorpKingflake: where does it ask for the passwd?07:36
flakein a file window, right click and mount07:36
intelikeyoh wait.  i know what it's doing.   it's asking for his user password because of sudo       duh07:36
ScorpKing:)07:36
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intelikeyyes putting entries in fstab will stop that.      if done correctly07:37
flakeit lists the partition, when I try to view it it asks for password then changes to disk or disk1, etc07:37
flakeand now I know how to rename my drive names too07:37
ScorpKingflake: can you pastebin the output from mount and /etc/fstab for us. :)07:38
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ScorpKingmount the drives frist07:38
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Meowmixiscoo__Ok, so, in xorg.conf what do I change to reset my graphic driver?07:39
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FunnyLookinHatAny Gutsy testers around?  Just curious if the decision to have compiz enabled by default in 7.10 Ubuntu will also be in 7.10 Kubuntu.07:40
intelikeythe line that says             Driver  "nv"      to  Driver "nvidia"       or what ever it is...07:40
Meowmixiscoo__it says Driver   "nvidia"07:40
Meowmixiscoo__which is the problem =P07:40
intelikeyto "nv" then....07:40
Meowmixiscoo__Thanks.07:41
intelikey</shrugs>    i can't stay connected long enough to help anyone, or even keep up with their issues.07:41
Meowmixiscoo__Is there a command to resrart my computer?07:41
mefisto__reboot?07:41
mefisto__sudo reboot07:41
intelikeyyes but you probably only need to   init 207:41
Meowmixiscoo__that was easy.07:42
Jucatosudo shutdown -r now07:42
ScorpKingor sudo init 607:42
Jucato(the longest option :))07:42
intelikeyno need to reboot    for xorg issues fellows07:42
Meowmixiscoo__I was running in recovery mode.07:42
flakehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37389/07:42
intelikeyinit 207:42
intelikeyMeowmixiscoo__ like i said     init 207:43
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bart_hello all07:43
bart_I got a little problem07:43
rafaelwhy in the hell kubuntu keeps saying that my video card is VESA and not a Geforce 7?07:43
flakehi bart_, whasssup07:43
bart_When I installed compiz I dont have a title bar anymore 0.o07:43
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bart_I use Ubuntu07:44
intelikeybart_ that's normal07:44
bart_really?07:44
bart_how to get it back?07:44
ScorpKingflake: is sdb1 an internal drive?07:44
intelikeyhave  to ask someone else about that.     but i see that same complaint 100X/day07:45
bart_intelikey: How to get my title bar (with maximize minimize etc)07:45
flakeyes07:45
bart_oh07:45
bart_well, I got it a thousand times07:45
intelikey:)07:45
bart_And never could solve it07:45
ScorpKingflake: install ntfs-3g07:45
Daisuke-Ido#ubuntu-effects is your best bet07:45
mefisto__rafael: I think that's pretty common when video is not fully and correctly configured07:45
flakeI did, and I have ran it multiple times07:45
tazgodxbart_:07:45
tazgodxTry adding the following to the Device section in xorg.conf and see if it helps:07:45
tazgodxOption "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "true"07:45
intelikeybart_ kde or gnome ?07:46
bart_ok07:46
flakeI'll be ok with adding it to the fstab07:46
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bart_just ubuntu feisty blahblah07:46
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intelikeythen gnome.    and i think you'll want the  #ubuntu  channel07:46
bart_ok07:46
ScorpKingflake: can't remember the options off hand. looking it up. one sec07:47
bart_first Il try taxgox07:47
tazgodxit was somthing similar to that, taht fixed mine07:47
flakebut then I kinda like the added security07:47
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tazgodxif that doesn't work just search the compiz forums for missing titlebar and you will see a bunch of posts07:48
Meowmixiscoo__*sigh* I'm just going to format and start over.07:48
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intelikeyflake you can 'rm /etc/fstab' if you like the added security of having to manually mount things....      ;/07:48
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daSkreechintelikey: Umm how would he boot?07:49
intelikeyfstab is not needed for boot up07:49
bart_nobody in the ubuntu channel seems to be active :)07:49
rgrolemundnight peeps07:49
flakeyes, i need to password protect my cdrom07:49
daSkreechintelikey: It makes it a lot nicer07:50
flakeand floppy too07:50
intelikeydaSkreech the root fs is mounted by the initramfs.img  while it still can't read the /etc/fstab07:50
ScorpKingflake: here it is - http://www.linux-faqs.com/faq/misc/ntfs.php07:50
mefisto__intelikey: no fstab would mean it would boot, but EVERYTHING would need to be mounted manually, right?07:50
daSkreechintelikey: I know that' or it wouldn't know where /etc is to find /etc/fstab07:50
intelikeycircular reasoning to think that you need to read something on an fs to be able to mount the fs so you can read something on the fs07:51
tazgodxbart_: you should probably just read some forums for that problem, its an easy fix. quick compiz forum search for "missing title bar"07:51
intelikeymefisto__ everything except the root fs07:51
mefisto__intelikey: OK, makes sense. I was just wondering how you would have access to the mount cmds if the root fs was not mounted.07:52
intelikeysame way you do now.07:52
intelikeyit's in the initramfs.img07:53
mefisto__intelikey: and would the root fs be ro access without fstab?07:53
intelikeyand for systems that don't depend on an initramfs.img  the kernel mounts the root fs according to the  "root=..."  part of the boot option.07:54
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intelikeymefisto__ that would depend on your init scripts    chkroot.sh in particular07:54
intelikeythat's normally where the root fs is remounted rw07:54
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intelikeyi ran this system without an fstab file for quite some time.   but i also wrote my own init /+scripts07:56
daSkreechI remember you doing that07:56
mefisto__intelikey: where is chkroot.sh? I can't locate it07:56
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intelikeyin /etc/init.d/07:56
intelikeyshould be.  may not have the .sh extention07:57
intelikeylike i said i wrote my own.07:57
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intelikeyput me so far out of touch with default ubuntu i really can't say...07:57
SoulessCan someone help me out with my monitor resolution?07:58
Meowmixiscoo__I give up. I swear my desktop PC is cursed.07:58
mefisto__intelikey: mine is checkroot.sh, not chkroot07:58
intelikeymefisto__ ah full spelling.   yeah that's it.07:58
kkathmanMeowmixiscoo__:  whats wrong?07:59
daSkreech!resolution | Souless07:59
ubotuSouless: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:59
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Meowmixiscoo__kkathman, I'm not even sure at this point.07:59
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kkathmanMeowmixiscoo__:  well, how about a list of things ?07:59
intelikeymefisto__ and let me guess it's bloated to cover every possable root drive/filesystem    correct ?   mine is like 9 lines long....    errr no that one has some special things in it,   29 lines.08:00
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Meowmixiscoo__Diagnostic lights on my tower just flashed a generic error, Kubuntu wont start up. Reformatting just to see if my hardware might be the issue.08:00
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mefisto__intelikey: mine is 410 lines08:01
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kkathmanMeowmixiscoo__:  hmm, well after formatting, try the ubuntu live disk first, that will detect any faulty or difficult hardware08:01
kkathmanMeowmixiscoo__:  if the live disk comes up and performs ok, then try installation08:02
mefisto__Meowmixiscoo__: does livecd start?08:02
kkathmanmefisto__:  thats what I just said :)08:02
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Meowmixiscoo__Live disk starts, but it had some graphical issues until I started it in graphic safe mode.08:02
mefisto__kkathman: yeah I saw it after I typed08:02
kkathmanMeowmixiscoo__:  what kind of issues?08:02
intelikeymine does the most basic testing.    fsck /dev/root && mount -o remount,rw / || {a failure function...}08:02
Meowmixiscoo__Rainbows, resolution looked like it wa about 5x larger than my screen.08:03
kkathmanMeowmixiscoo__:  what kind of video card do you have?08:03
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Meowmixiscoo__GeForce 680008:03
kkathmanwow that should be just fine, doesnt even need the newest driver :)08:03
Meowmixiscoo__Yeah =/08:04
kkathmanMeowmixiscoo__:  what did you do in safe mode?08:04
Meowmixiscoo__Right now? I'm formatting and reinstalling Kubuntu.08:05
kkathmanMeowmixiscoo__:  dont reinstall, until you resolve the live CD if possible08:05
kkathmanMeowmixiscoo__:   you dont have 2 monitors or anything like that?08:06
Meowmixiscoo__One Dell monitor.08:06
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kkathmank08:06
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daSkreechKoffee08:09
daSkreechWith kaffiene :)08:09
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CoffeeThiefHand it over.08:09
ScorpKingnope! i refuse.08:09
CoffeeThief=[ Dang.08:09
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ScorpKing:/08:09
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ScorpKingintelikey: how can i mount a encrypted disk at boot reading the password from a file on a usb disk?08:13
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intelikeymefisto__ note.  that is non-generic.   i wouldn't advise anyone to just unpack that and without configuring it expect it to work on their box08:14
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intelikeyScorpKing anything you can do from the command line you can do from an init script08:14
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intelikeyor should i say "anyting root can do, init can do."08:15
intelikey+108:15
ScorpKingi know but i'm always having problems creating scripts. :)08:15
intelikeyhistory -f ;start issuing the command needed ;exit and use the .bash_history file as the script08:16
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ScorpKingand where do i add it to be auto? checkroot.sh?08:17
MeowmixiscooOk. Now that Kubuntu is working for me again, any suggestions on how not to screw things up?08:17
ScorpKingMeowmixiscoo: don't use anything sudo. lol08:18
Meowmixiscoo>.<08:18
intelikeyScorpKing /etc/rc.local   unless it needs to exec earily08:18
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intelikeyMeowmixiscoo it works    if it asks for a password, don't run it...08:19
intelikeyor remove your self from sudoers    that works too08:19
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Jucato(specially if it says that intelikey is asking for it...)08:19
ScorpKingintelikey: it will just be to mount encrypted data drive eg, hdb on /mnt/data. that will do. thanks.08:19
intelikeyhere here08:19
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ScorpKinglol08:20
intelikeyScorpKing welcome.08:20
intelikeyand jucato is right08:20
Jucatohehe08:20
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intelikeypeople in #bash say i can't script, (but my scripts always work for me)   and people in #*buntu say i can't fix a system   (but my system is working as i want)    and people in ##linux say i can't type....  errr i think they may be right...08:22
Meowmixiscoolol08:22
intelikey:)08:22
ScorpKinghaha08:22
bart_Here I am again08:24
bart_still got no title bar..08:24
ScorpKingintelikey: in rc.local it says - This script is executed at the end of each multiuser runlevel. - that means it will run after the system is up right? and how will i check an encrypted disk for errors at boot then?08:24
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intelikeyScorpKing error checking should be done before mounting.08:25
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intelikeyScorpKing you don't fsck a mounted fs.    try it and see.08:25
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ScorpKingwill that not mess up the encrypted data?08:26
jussi01anyone know how to get an arrow that goes from many bits into one for open office?08:26
bart_I dont have a title bar, this is my xorg.conf file: http://www.pastebin.ca/697066 what should I change?08:26
intelikeyScorpKing ummm  you are just outside my realm of exp there.08:26
intelikeyencription...08:26
bart_#ubuntu08:26
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ScorpKinglol. thanks anyway. will work on that...08:27
intelikeyk08:27
MeowmixiscooHaha. Fox messed up.08:27
MeowmixiscooThey were showing a line up and put Ton instead of Tonight.08:28
ScorpKingmaybe they were tired. :)08:28
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intelikeytypo08:28
intelikeytypo !08:28
ScorpKinglol08:28
MeowmixiscooIt's only 1:30 am!08:28
intelikeycall the typing nazi's on them08:29
ScorpKingMeowmixiscoo: 08:29 by me.08:29
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ScorpKingam08:29
intelikey06:3008:29
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ScorpKinglol08:29
garfieldMe me 408:29
ScorpKingi'm still awake. :P08:30
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intelikeynot me.   i've been asleep now for three point two decades08:30
MeowmixiscooOk, so, should I attempt to update my gfx with the nvidia-glx under Adept?08:30
ScorpKinghaha08:30
MeowmixiscooOr just keep using the common?08:31
ScorpKingare you going to use sudo?08:31
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ScorpKing:D08:31
intelikeyMeowmixiscoo if it aint broke .........08:31
garfieldlol08:31
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bart_I dont have a title bar, this is my xorg.conf file: http://www.pastebin.ca/697066 what should I change?08:31
Meowmixiscoointelikey, true08:31
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intelikeysome body help bart_ .    with the compiz thingy08:32
bart_:)08:32
intelikeypointy clicky thingies anyway08:32
ScorpKinglol08:32
intelikeydon't know why y'all bother.08:32
MeowmixiscooSo, suppose I'm going to attempt to get WoW to work. Any advice on that?08:33
intelikeypointy clicky thingies anyway08:33
intelikeydon't know why y'all bother.08:33
intelikeyMeowmixiscoo ^08:33
flaccidman dapper sux08:33
ScorpKingMeowmixiscoo: try kdesu next time. :P08:34
intelikeywith such fiddle faddle, and rigamaroe..08:34
intelikeyflaccid welcome to my world.08:34
jussi01!nixternal | intelikey08:34
ubotuintelikey: Oh no!  The pointy-clicky Vista lover has arrived!  He's rumoured to be giving out free money, too!08:34
garfieldbart_: delet everything wa is befor # /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)08:35
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intelikey!botsnack | jussi0108:35
ubotujussi01: Yum! Err, I mean, APT!08:35
flaccidi can't even install kubuntu-desktop with normal repos08:35
bart_I already got helped in the compiz-fusion channel now :)08:35
bart_they know the problem08:35
flacciddue to broken packages apparently08:35
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jussi01flaccid: dist-upgrade08:36
intelikeyflaccid was that a clean install of dapper ?08:36
flaccidok i'll try a dist-upgrade on it08:36
flacciddon't know to be honest, its a friends online08:36
intelikeyflaccid and do you have "main universe" for updates and security enabled ?08:36
flaccidthere is nothing to dist-upgrade08:36
flaccidyeah its all enabled08:36
garfieldflaccid: u still have the problems with broken packages?08:36
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flaccidyes08:37
intelikeybackports08:37
garfieldadept keep telling u an error msg?08:37
intelikeyturn backports off and try it.08:37
flaccidim using apt-get08:37
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flaccidhttp://pastebin.ca/69708008:37
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jussi01gah, i justneed a freaking arrow....grrr08:38
flaccidsame thing08:38
garfieldflaccid: if adept not running try sudo apt-get -f install08:39
intelikeyflaccid lets see the sources.list08:39
flaccidi just think its funny how its a 'impossible situation' yet im using standard reos08:39
flaccidrepos08:39
flaccidok08:39
intelikeyi am using dapper btw08:39
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flaccidhere is the sources. http://pastebin.ca/69708508:39
garfieldor if it crash on u and says it's lock try ...08:39
mefisto__thanks intelikey. just saw that dcc. I'll take a look later, when I'm less busy08:40
garfield!aptfix | flaccid08:40
ubotuflaccid: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 08:40
flaccidyep you are the unforunate LTS helper here lol08:40
flaccidthere is no lock garfield08:40
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baudthiefIs a 2.4GHz machine w/224MB of ram sufficient to run kubuntu as a samba server?08:41
intelikeyflaccid no main in updates or security08:41
baudthiefI mean, would it be a noticable performance difference from say, the same machine running windows08:41
intelikeyflaccid as i said "<intelikey> flaccid and do you have "main universe" for updates and security enabled ?"08:41
garfieldim not realy that good in linux it just that adept keep crashing on me since the new kernel apair so my problems was allways to corect adept08:41
aftertafbaudthief: if you want it as a server, dont start x.08:42
flaccidintelikey: i just went to source-o-matic and used the normal sources08:42
intelikeyoh wait.08:42
baudthiefaftertaf: so no pointy clicky server? :\08:42
intelikeyi think i over looked them08:42
baudthieflol might just install debian then08:42
flaccidyeah08:42
intelikeyyes you have then.08:42
intelikeyok    sudo apt-get update08:43
jussi01dammmit.... I need an arrow!!08:43
garfieldMe shoot jussi01 with an arrow08:43
garfield:)08:43
aftertafbaudthief: but why not have an X and see...... Its not that memory intensive! maybe give it more ram, is all id say the processor is fine08:43
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flaccidintelikey: yeah the list is updated08:44
baudthiefaftertaf: Well I have this 2.4GHz celeron machine that keeps shutting down on its own lol (running debian) - I might hack the 512MB ram out of it, and install it in the 2.4GHz P4 and try ubuntu + x08:44
intelikeyflaccid and    sudo apt-get clean      "assuming you don't need to keep the cached packages"08:44
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flaccid!info libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.1108:45
ubotuPackage libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.11 does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas08:45
flaccidyeah tried that too08:45
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intelikey!info libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.11 dapper08:45
ubotuPackage libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.11 does not exist in dapper08:46
flaccidit wants that08:46
flaccidsomehow for adept which doesnt' exist08:46
intelikey!info libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.11 breezy08:46
flaccidupdates and main conflicting?08:46
ubotuPackage libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.11 does not exist in feisty08:46
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intelikey!info libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.11 edgy08:46
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ubotuPackage libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.11 does not exist in edgy08:46
jussi01has anyone got ms office? go grab me an arrow? please?? the one that goes from manny bits into one...08:46
intelikey!find libapt-pkg-libc608:46
aftertafram problem i think ... :)08:47
ubotuFound: apt08:47
jussi01flaccid: you could easy source a new sources list just to be sure...08:47
intelikey!find "libapt-pkg-libc6"08:47
flaccidjussi01: already done that..08:47
jussi01oh08:47
jussi01ok08:47
flaccidintelikey: its a bit weird yeah08:48
intelikeyflaccid that is part of apt   libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6.so.3.11.008:48
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flaccidyes but it wants the package libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.1108:49
intelikeyflaccid sudo apt-get -d apt    and use dpkg to reinstall it08:49
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baudthiefforgot to ask lol - Is there a noticable performance difference between reading/writing to an NTFS drive than a native ext* drive?08:49
flaccid-d ?08:49
baudthief(wondering if I should 'convert' all the hdds in this machine from ntfs to ext)08:49
intelikeydownload only08:49
intelikeyput's it in the cache dir08:49
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flaccidinvalid operation08:50
jussi01baudthief: If you can, do it, its much safer08:50
intelikeyheh yeah  apt-get -d install apt08:50
jussi01ntfs still has some problems....08:50
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bart_#beryl08:50
flaccidits already installed intelikey so can't d/l it again08:50
baudthiefjussi01: no probs, are there any conversion tools? or should I move everything off the drives, format as ext3, then move everything back?08:51
intelikeyyeah ya can.     sudo apt-get install -d --reinstall apt08:51
jussi01baudthief: the latter option08:51
baudthiefdone, thanks for your help!08:51
flaccidreturns: Reinstallation of apt is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.08:51
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qmrHi, I'm using 704 and I can't get the openoffice quickstarter to work08:52
qmrit is set in OOo to be on, but it's not in my systray08:52
intelikeyflaccid apt-get --version08:52
qmrwtf? :)08:52
flaccidapt 0.6.46.4ubuntu10 for linux i386 compiled on Mar 14 2007 17:43:2408:53
intelikey?08:53
intelikeythat's not dapper08:53
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intelikeyapt 0.6.43.3ubuntu2 for linux i386 compiled on Apr 18 2006 19:46:3808:53
flaccidwhat is it08:53
intelikeyedgy maybe ???08:53
flaccid1sec08:53
intelikeyi'm all upto date  and that's my version ^08:54
flaccidah, this dude accidently put feisty or edgy sources in the list once and so its like mixed now08:54
flaccidim going to dist-upgrade him to fiesty then08:54
intelikeyyeah  he's not got dappere.08:54
intelikeydapper08:54
intelikeywhat kernel ?08:54
flaccidsorry about the time waster hey.08:55
intelikey2.6.15-28 is dapper latest08:55
flaccidthis is what he has loaded atm Linux kubuntu 2.6.15-29-386 #1 PREEMPT Wed Aug 29 13:20:33 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux08:55
intelikeyflaccid ok maybe 29 i'll check that    i use a 2.4 kernel on this box.08:55
flacciddang08:56
flaccidyeah i've done dapper to feisty before with lots of problems but i won in the end so i'll give it a try08:56
intelikeyso even thouugh i'm all up to date my kernel is not.08:56
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pillowpantsi cant seem to find a .deb for zsnes for feisty amd64, and its not in the repos08:57
intelikey!info zsnes08:57
ubotuzsnes: Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (TM). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.420-2.1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 513 kB, installed size 3232 kB (Only available for i386)08:57
rocketsHow do I use kaffeine-gstreamer08:58
flaccidthere is not one available, pillowpants08:58
rocketsi installed it and kaffeine seems to still use xine08:58
MeowmixiscooHow do I get sound to work?08:58
intelikeylooks like 32 bit only   maybe ?08:58
pillowpantsi managed it before, but i dont remember how08:58
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intelikeythe 32 bit version ?08:58
pillowpantsyeah08:58
pillowpantsor something along those lines08:59
pillowpantsi may have compiled it08:59
pillowpantshttp://board.zsnes.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=737108:59
intelikey!sound | Meowmixiscoo you can look here,  but no using sudo, remember...08:59
ubotuMeowmixiscoo you can look here,  but no using sudo, remember...: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP308:59
pillowpantsim trying this technique08:59
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intelikeyflaccid ok just checked that kernel version is not in dapper *09:00
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intelikeyso that was probably some custom updates/upgrades09:00
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flaccidyeah its called a n00b just selecting any repos09:01
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flaccid'oh i did do this one day' 'oh thanks i just wasted 3 hours'09:01
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intelikeyyep that's it.09:02
flaccidi think the impossible situation is going to be 9/10 that09:03
Meowmixiscoo!Players09:03
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs09:03
intelikeyyes at least   maybe 11/10 even...09:04
flakeclear09:04
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flakels09:04
flakedoh09:04
intelikey/clear09:04
intelikeyflake you can use the irc client as a shell if you need or want to    /exec ls09:05
flaccidok doing upgrade now in prep. for dist-upgrade09:05
shibuis there anyone who can give me some advice on streaming rtp packets09:05
intelikeyjust remember that commands that tie up the terminal will tie up the irc client too09:06
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aftertafintelikey: or use Screen, no?09:06
flakecool09:06
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intelikeyaftertaf from within the irc client...   i guess you could09:07
flakeNiccce, is # 4 terminal in all Kazakhstan09:07
aftertaflol09:07
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flaccidintelikey:  got a apt error thats non fatal09:07
flaccidintelikey: how to get rid of : http://pastebin.ca/697113 ?09:08
shibupls anybody who can help me in streaming?09:09
shibuI'm in urgent need09:09
shibupls pls pls09:09
flaccidno shibu09:09
jussi01!ask | shibu09:10
ubotushibu: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)09:10
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flaccidhere is not really the place for help on rtp packets..09:10
shibuI have to send RTP packets09:10
intelikeyLC_ALL=C command09:10
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shibucan u suggest me any channel which can help me?09:10
flaccidunfortunately not shibu09:11
shibubecause I'm in such an urgent need09:11
shibuits ok09:11
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shibuthanks for sparing ur time for me09:11
flaccideverything is urgent for everyone usually :)09:11
flaccidnp09:11
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intelikeyflaccid that is a temporarry fix.    setting the LC_ALL var before the command,  when you have finished the dist-upgrade if it doesn't take care of that we'll edit the /etc/environment09:12
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yayantets09:13
intelikey?09:13
flaccidok i'll see if it remains when i get to feisty. you are right this is a dapper issue09:13
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numberHello - is better install ubuntu or kubuntu? It is only one graphical manager in each version - so I can not run KDE in Ubuntu?09:15
Neutrinuxhi, is there a tuto to get kubuntu 7.04 hibernate or suspend?09:15
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Yz85Racerhey09:15
Yz85Racerhow do you get wine on Kubuntu?09:16
aftertafNeutrinux: i'd check on ubuntuforums, google those keywords and you will find...09:16
aftertafYz85Racer: adept, synaptic, apt... its in the repos09:16
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aftertafYz85Racer: or google for wine ubuntu feisty and you'll find a newer reopsitory09:17
Yz85Racersay what? i tryed adept09:17
Yz85Racerbut theres like09:17
Yz85Racer3 things09:17
intelikeynumber and why not ?09:17
Yz85Racerwell09:17
Yz85Racerteres libwine09:17
Yz85Racerlibwine-dev09:17
aftertafget just wine.09:18
Yz85Racerwinefish09:18
aftertafthe rest will come if needed09:18
numberintelikey: I do not know - I read that on Ubuntu is Gnome and in Kubuntu is KDE, so...09:18
Yz85RacerHow?09:18
Yz85Racerthat;s waht I want too know09:18
intelikeynumber  you can install kde gnome fluxbox blackbox icewm xfce4 and any/all other gui's in any of the *buntu versions.09:18
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Neutrinuxaftertaf: i check09:19
intelikeynumber the default gui for ubuntu is gnome   the default for kubuntu is kde   the default for xubuntu is xfce4  ....09:19
Yz85Racerso... how do I get wine?09:19
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intelikey!wine09:19
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.09:19
JucatoYz85Racer: just install "wine"09:19
numberintelikey: ok thx - so I will not be downloading both versions Kubuntu and Ubuntu if on each I can run KDE or GNOME09:19
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Yz85Racerlike i said09:19
Yz85RacerHOW?09:19
intelikeyYz85Racer package manager of your choice     and install it.09:19
Meowmixiscoo_Through Adept09:19
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Yz85Raceradept doesnt have it... its got 309:19
Yz85Racerumm ok09:20
Yz85Racerwhich one09:20
Meowmixiscoo_Just download the plain Wine09:20
Yz85Racerlibwine09:20
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Yz85Racerlibwine-dev09:20
Yz85Racerand09:20
Yz85Racerwinefish09:20
intelikeynone of the above.09:20
Yz85Racerwell09:20
Yz85Racernow?09:20
intelikey!repos | Yz85Racer09:20
ubotuYz85Racer: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu09:20
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Yz85Racerit doesnt have ANY09:20
Yz85Racerffs09:20
Yz85Racerapart from them,09:20
intelikeyread the link      ^09:20
Meowmixiscoo_=/ Try refreshing it?09:20
Yz85Raceri did?09:20
Meowmixiscoo_Weird.09:20
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intelikeyoh you did.    and you enabled the other repositories ?09:21
pillowpantsi just accident xkilled my taskbar09:21
pillowpantswhat should i do?09:21
intelikeyand you refreshed the list and you still don't have wine in the package list.09:21
Yz85Racersay what intelikey09:21
intelikeydon't   BS me09:21
Yz85Racerim not09:21
Yz85Racerwell09:21
intelikeyhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu09:21
Yz85Racerwhats the refresh button? its the fetch updates09:22
Yz85Racerone09:22
Yz85Racerright?09:22
pillowpantscrl +alt + esc = accidently clicked the skull and bones on taskbar09:22
numberbye :)09:22
pillowpantsnow its gone, and id like it back09:22
pillowpantsheh09:22
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intelikeypillowpants alt+f2 kicker09:22
pillowpantsah, thank you09:22
pillowpantsill keep that in mind09:23
intelikey:)09:23
Meowmixiscoo_What does ctrl+alt+esc do?09:23
pillowpantsxkill09:23
Yz85Racerwell09:23
pillowpantsterminates what ever you click on09:23
Yz85Racerhow do i get wine ffs? I have searche09:23
intelikeyruns   xkill    you then point it what you want to die09:23
Yz85Racerand none work09:23
intelikeyyz  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu09:24
Yz85Racerwhat about that09:24
Yz85Raceri have them all enabled09:24
Meowmixiscoo_Yz09:25
Meowmixiscoo_Go in to konsole09:25
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Yz85Raceryes09:25
Meowmixiscoo_type sudo apt-get install wine09:25
intelikeyMeowmixiscoo_ he'll still have adept open and that will error because of it.09:25
Meowmixiscoo_=/09:25
Yz85RacerPackage wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.09:25
Yz85RacerThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or09:25
Yz85Raceris only available from another source09:25
Yz85RacerE: Package wine has no installation candidate09:25
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Meowmixiscoo_D'oh.09:26
flaccid!pastebin | Yz85Racer09:26
ubotuYz85Racer: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)09:26
Yz85Racermate09:27
Yz85Racerits 4 lines..09:27
Yz85Racerlol09:27
intelikeynot in his repos.   so if he has the full repos in the sources.list then one of two things.   either it's 64 bit system and no wine on k8    or the database needs updated09:27
Yz85Raceryes09:27
Yz85Racerit's a 64-bit system09:27
Yz85Racerdoes that matter?09:27
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intelikeyit does09:27
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intelikey!info wine fiesty6409:28
ubotuwine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.33-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 9576 kB, installed size 44452 kB09:28
qmrMy openoffice quickstart won't sit in kde tray, please help09:28
intelikeythat didn't read the 64...09:28
flaccidYz85Racer: stop flooding.09:28
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Yz85Racerlook09:30
Yz85Racerall i want too do09:30
Yz85Raceris run a game09:30
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flaccidwe can read09:30
Yz85Raceratch  Showerror  Tibia  Tibia.dat  Tibia.pic  Tibia.spr  Tibia.xpm09:30
Yz85RacerP09:30
Yz85Racerthe first 309:30
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Yz85Racerare exe's09:30
Yz85Raceri go to the directory in konsole09:30
Yz85Racerand type09:30
flaccidexe is windows not linux.09:30
Yz85Racer./Tibia09:30
flaccidYz85Racer: stop flooding again09:30
Yz85Raceri meant09:30
Yz85Racerexecutable09:30
flaccida .exe will not run on linux unless its run under wine or equivalent09:31
Yz85Raceri know..09:31
aftertafYz85Racer: running win games with wine is not easy, even for experienced users.09:31
flaccidYz85Racer: goto #wine09:31
Yz85Racerim not dumb on a computer.. just never used linux09:31
aftertafa lot of ppl i know keep a windows partition just for gaming.09:31
Yz85Racerohk nvm09:31
Yz85Raceri wont worry about wine09:31
flaccidgood09:31
Yz85Racerbut09:31
flaccidYz85Racer: what have you used?09:31
Yz85Raceri go to my game's extracted directory09:32
aftertafYz85Racer: i mezan by that thatis it not easy(tm), not that you are dumb ;)09:32
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Yz85Racerwindows and mac os09:32
flaccidYz85Racer continues to flood. can someone ban him09:32
Yz85Racerim far from dumb on a comp09:32
Yz85Racerhow am I flooding?09:32
flaccidi've already explained that09:32
qmr!enter09:32
ubotuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!09:32
aftertafYz85Racer: its by pressing enter where a comma can be enough ;)09:32
Yz85Raceromg... ok09:33
aftertafhehe09:33
flaccidalso nobody ever said you were dumb09:33
qmrThe channel is #winehq, not #wine09:33
flaccidthanks for the correction qmr09:33
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flaccidYz85Racer: thats where you go for wine help09:33
Yz85Racerbut, anyway, i go to my games directory, (yes its linux) and type ./Tibia to run the game's exectuable, but it just says09:33
Yz85Racerbash: ./Tibia: No such file or directory09:33
aftertafYz85Racer: type wine Tibia09:34
intelikeyand it's not Tibia.exe ?09:34
flaccidYz85Racer: that file doesn't exist in the pwd. linux is case sensitive too09:34
Yz85Racerno09:34
Yz85Raceri know09:34
Yz85Racerim typing it09:35
Yz85Racerexactly09:35
Yz85Racerim in the games directory09:35
flaccidfile ./Tibia if it returns no such file or directory. then like it says, it doesn't exist09:35
intelikey!tab09:35
ubotuYou can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.09:35
flaccidYz85Racer: we don't help flooders... stop flloding!09:35
aftertafYz85Racer: try running wine [filename] 09:35
[nrx] !enter09:35
[nrx] :D09:35
ubotuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!09:35
Yz85Racerand it just says it doesnt exist, when im in the games directory it says "Tibia" i type "./Tibia"09:36
Yz85RacerPatch  Showerror  Tibia  Tibia.dat  Tibia.pic  Tibia.spr  Tibia.xpm09:36
Yz85Raceris what it says when i use ls in it directory09:36
flaccidYz85Racer: what does file ./Tibia return?09:36
Yz85Racerbash: ./Tibia: No such file or directory09:37
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flaccidplease pastebin output of ls -l of that directory09:37
intelikeythat's not what flaccid asked09:37
judgenHow do i enable fsaa by default for a nvidia card?09:37
intelikey file ./Tibia09:37
Yz85Racer./Tibia: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped09:38
Yz85Raceris what that returns flaccid09:38
flaccidYz85Racer: what does ls -l ./Tibia return?09:38
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Yz85Racer./Tibia: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped09:39
flaccidthats the file command i need ls -l09:39
Yz85Raceroooops09:40
Yz85Racer-rwxr-xr-x 1 kyle kyle 5175944 2007-06-26 20:36 ./Tibia09:40
Yz85Racerforgot ctrl + c dont work09:40
Yz85Racerlawl09:40
intelikeydumb de dumb dumb  DUMB! ......     </whistles>09:40
waylandbill_I assume you're running as 'kyle'09:40
qmrthis ultravnc 'singleclick' addon talks about a reverse connection for people behind firewall.. can someone tell me how that works?09:41
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Yz85Raceryes09:41
Yz85Raceri am09:41
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flaccidare you using bash?09:41
waylandbill_it's got x's across the board, so it wouldn't matter, but if it needs to save to an existing file could have trouble later. :)09:42
intelikeyflaccid ?    ;/09:42
Yz85Racererm09:42
Yz85Raceri dont know wtf bash is :P09:42
intelikeyyz you are.09:42
flaccidhave you tried running it absolutely. eg. /path/to/exec/Tibia09:42
intelikeythe error messages    bash: blah.... kinda give that away09:43
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Yz85Racerflaccid09:43
Yz85Racer-rwxr-xr-x 1 kyle kyle 5175944 2007-06-26 20:36 ./Tibia09:43
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[nrx] <Yz85Racer> i dont know wtf bash is :P < -lol09:43
intelikey!info bash > Yz85Racer09:43
waylandbill_!bash09:44
flaccidthats not what i asked09:44
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Yz85RacerARGH09:44
Yz85Racerim so used to ctrl + c09:44
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal09:44
flaccidYz85Racer: call it absolutely. eg. /usr/bin/whoami09:44
Yz85Racerbash: /home/kyle/Desktop/Tibia/Tibia: No such file or directory09:44
Yz85RacerI DID09:44
Yz85Raceroops, sorry, caps lock09:44
flaccidYz85Racer: and file /home/kyle/Desktop/Tibia/Tibia returns the same as before?09:45
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Yz85Raceryes09:45
flaccidYz85Racer: you have a weird problem. i don't know what it is. i would ask the experts in #bash09:46
intelikeyy'all be nice.     we don't treat trolls that harshly.    @ self as much as anyone.09:46
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intelikeyYz85Racer before you go to #bash try this.    export PATH="$PATH:/home/kyle/Desktop/Tibia" ;Tibia09:47
flaccidbash requires $PATH to do this?09:48
Yz85Racer Tibia: command not found09:48
intelikeyshouldn't   but it can.09:48
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flaccidwhats the right way to force remove with dpkg again ?09:49
intelikeyYz85Racer may i see the output of this command please.          ls -l /home/kyle/Desktop/Tibia09:50
intelikey!paste09:50
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)09:50
[nrx] flaccid: --force-remove?09:50
intelikeyflaccid dpkg -P --force-all packagename09:50
intelikeyerr -P is purge09:50
[nrx] lol09:50
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flaccidhmm not right still09:51
[nrx] dpkg remove --force09:51
intelikey?09:51
Yz85Racerintelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37393/09:51
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flaccidhmmm09:52
flaccidaccepted sudo dpkg -r --force-all xfonts-scalable but didn't remove it09:53
intelikeyflaccid -P --force-all does work.  it may error  but the package will be removed    dpkg -l | grep package   will confirm09:53
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flaccidcheck out the wierd status: iHR xfonts-scalable                        1.0.0-6                                scalable fonts for X09:54
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flaccidintelikey: http://pastebin.ca/69714909:54
intelikeyinstalled held Removed ???09:55
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flaccidsomething, basically the setup script is preventing setup or removal09:56
flacciddue to specifying an unregognized option for the update-fonts-dir command09:56
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intelikeywhich update-fonts-dir ; mv /path/to/update-fonts-dir /root ; : > /path/to/update-fonts-dir09:57
intelikeyand dpkg -P --force-all package     again09:57
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intelikeythen you can mv /root/update-fonts-dir  /path/to/09:58
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flaccidjust trying a reinstall of xfonts-utils first09:58
kaminix|benkyouHow do I make Kopete use Swiftfox as default browser?09:59
flaccidthat may of done it. so the version mismatch of the command had dif command line options09:59
flaccidi've done a dapper to feisty upgrade before. now im doing a broken dapper to feisty upgrade. if successful its not a bad feat10:00
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Meowmixiscoo_This might sound stupid but, do programs that run on a Mac run on Linux?10:00
flaccidunfortunately not meow10:00
intelikeyyeah you can do it.    as long as you don't break libc6 or dpkg  your fine........10:00
Meowmixiscoo_=/ Ok then.10:00
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flaccidintelikey: yeah hopefully\10:01
intelikeyMeowmixiscoo_ that was for flaccid not you... just in case there was mistake10:01
flaccidits going good on dist-upgrade now :)10:01
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kvnethi to all!10:01
Meowmixiscoo_Hi2U10:01
Meowmixiscoo_intelikey, got it =] .10:02
intelikeyflaccid im serious, as long as libc6 and dpkg are working.  it's fixable10:02
flaccidyeah i know that.. but its a matter of how much time you have to work on something like this10:02
intelikeyyeah.10:02
flaccidbut im looking lucky now atm..10:02
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flaccidnice one br0ther :)10:03
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flaccidim glad my shell is in gnu screen10:04
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kvnetdoes somebody know about kubuntu and sony vaio compatibility?10:04
flaccid!vaio10:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vaio - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:04
intelikeyneedless to say.   without another system to fix from   either of those are a game over call....10:04
flaccidum there is something on vaio somewhere10:05
intelikey!sony10:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sony - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:05
kvneti need info about newest models.....my friend bought it and......vista sux and XP can't be installed10:05
intelikeyzeenoth beet sony again ???10:05
flaccidkvnet: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=vaio&titlesearch=Titles10:06
kvnetthx10:06
flaccidnot sure if anything will help but10:06
flaccidgoogle is best place10:06
flaccidkvnet: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=opera&rls=en&hs=tkQ&pwst=1&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=sony+vaio+ubuntu&spell=110:07
kvnetgoogle doesn't know about vaio c2zr :(10:07
kvnetand linux10:07
flaccidthats unfortunate10:07
flaccidgive sony a call ?10:07
waylandbill_kvnet: if it doesn't support the latest hardware, I wouldn't worry. Usually 6 months later it does.10:08
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flaccidhmm10:11
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pillowpantswhats the command to compile from source again?10:11
pillowpants./configure?10:12
pillowpantsmake10:12
pillowpantsmake install?10:12
intelikey!b-e10:12
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)10:12
flaccidyeah10:12
flaccidpillowpants: thats purely dependent on the software10:12
pillowpants./configure didnt work10:12
pillowpantsi guess i should read the readme, heh10:12
flaccidyes10:12
flaccidand INSTALL if its there10:12
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waylandbillconfigure scripts are if GNU automake/autoconf was used in the development and distribution. It's very widespread in usage, but there are other ways.10:14
pillowpantsit wanted ./autogen10:14
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waylandbillpillowpants: if you look at the autogen in a text editor, I bet it ran automake, autoheader and/or autoconf.10:15
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flaccidooo nearly done intelikey coz this dude on cable10:16
intelikey:)10:16
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pillowpantsim compiling zsnes10:17
flaccidcoolio10:17
Jucato!info zsnes10:17
ubotuzsnes: Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (TM). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.420-2.1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 513 kB, installed size 3232 kB (Only available for i386)10:17
pillowpantsim trying to get it on amd6410:17
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flaccidyeah pillowpants on 6410:17
pillowpantsonly way is to compile10:17
=== Jucato is glad not to be on 64...
flaccidhey thanks muchly for help intelikey, its done. i'll tell him to reboot it now and see if DE works10:17
pillowpants64 is speedy10:18
pillowpantsi dig it10:18
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intelikeyflaccid jsut issue init 6  :)10:18
holybovinehow so10:18
Ramlasay, what's the application for kde look (qt) settings? I'm running xubuntu with kubuntu-desktop installed but can't bother to launch kde-session just to change opera's look10:18
holybovinenothing is coded to use 64'bitness10:18
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holybovineexcept for 3d renderers and a few other specialty applications10:18
flaccidintelikey: alright. yeah i don't think hes doing anything on this machine, too bad if he is10:18
holybovinemost apps aren't even multithreaded10:18
intelikeypstree would know10:19
flacciddpm10:19
flacciddon't you have to be in a console to init ?10:19
intelikeynope10:19
flaccidinit: Unable to send message: Connection refused10:19
JucatoRamla: I think you need to install qt3-qtconfig or qt4-qtconfig (whichever qt version Opera is using)10:19
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intelikeyflaccid may be an upstart thing.      you did sudo it ?10:20
waylandbill64 bit doesn't make me feel all warm and fuzzy. 32 is fast enough for my needs.10:20
flaccidRamla: opera manages its own looks through skins and appearance as well below the window management layer...10:20
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flaccidintelikey: yeah10:20
xp_killerwow its 4:30 in the morning10:20
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flaccidim going to reboot him10:21
waylandbillactually 4:20 (here) ... I'm sure it's probably 4:20PM for Jucato. :)10:21
Ramlaflaccid: sounds like that'd work too, thanks10:21
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pillowpantsboy, compiling zsnes is tricky work10:21
Jucatowaylandbill: yep :)10:21
pillowpantsi throw in the towel10:21
flaccidi recommend the kde longing skin for opera10:21
Jucatopillowpants: I imagine it's trickier to compile for 64-bit :/10:21
flaccidright i gotta run10:21
flaccidceeyas later10:22
intelikeypillowpants what errors you got ?10:22
waylandbillI'm sure it is if you haven't compiled b410:22
intelikeynd10:22
flaccidcatch ya intelikey, jucy10:22
pillowpantssh ./autogen.sh && gmake && gmake install10:22
pillowpantswont be recognized10:23
pillowpantsi have all the stuff there10:23
pillowpantsdependencies and such10:23
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intelikeywont be recognized ???10:23
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pillowpantssh: Can't open ./autogen.sh10:24
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waylandbillpillowpants: make sure it is executable10:24
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waylandbillI guess it's time for me to head off to work.10:24
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pillowpantsim just reading off the install.txt10:24
Jucatoum... studying...10:24
pillowpantswaylandbill: this late?10:25
pillowpantsor early perhaps10:25
waylandbill4:20 am? what time should I be going? 12 am? :-P10:25
pillowpantsits 3 25 am here10:25
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waylandbillthe good news is I get out earlier. lol10:25
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intelikeyand modem reset again...  is anyone counting......10:29
Jucatoone10:29
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intelikeyseems like that is 6 or 7 already this morning...10:29
sbucat-.-.-.-.- volume microfone tooo low alsamixer is setted at top but it still low10:29
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sbucatRealtek ALC861-VD10:30
sbucatmicrofone low10:30
sbucatideas? i have made alsamixer and i set all at the max10:30
intelikeysbucat is the mic the record device ?   could be the line in   or the speakers even....10:30
intelikeymake sure the recording device is the mic10:30
sbucatintelikey: made it10:31
sbucatinput : mic10:31
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sbucatdamned alsa driver10:31
sbucatnever works fine10:31
intelikeyyes but is it selected in the app that you are testing ?10:31
Meowmixiscoo_I'm trying to install LimeWire but it keep telling me java isn't installed =/10:32
sbucatrecordmydesktop10:32
intelikey!java10:32
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.10:32
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Meowmixiscoo_Thanks!10:32
sbucatintelikey: i don t know but in recordmydestop there is not this option and in audacity if i set the mic's volume it's the same if i put mic's volume max or min10:33
intelikeybeware the 64bit issues there too Meowmixiscoo_10:33
Meowmixiscoo_o.O10:33
intelikeysbucat i know that audacity lets you select the input device.10:34
sbucatintelikey: yes of couse10:34
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sbucatin preference10:34
intelikeyand the tool bar10:34
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sbucatyes but tool bar no works10:35
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sbucatand in preference i can set alsa oss and other10:35
intelikeyMeowmixiscoo_ maybe only "flash" not java in general.  so disreguard10:35
jason__hellhelloo10:35
intelikeynot what i mean.  there is a button on the toolbar that lets you choose the input device   mic line0 line1 ....10:36
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sbucatcry....microfone was important10:37
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intelikey!sound10:38
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP310:38
jason__so what's up10:38
pillowpantsaha!10:38
pillowpantshttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=43264210:38
pillowpantsthe 32 bit repository for amd6410:38
intelikeymaybe something helpful there sbucat ^   i don't know.10:38
pillowpantszsnes is in there10:38
pillowpantsvery convenient10:38
pillowpantsi can apt-get zsnes32 like any other lassy now10:39
intelikeysee   no 64bit.   only 3210:39
pillowpantsyeah10:39
pillowpantsbut compiling it was not an option10:39
intelikeyi see.10:39
pillowpantsand installing a 32 bit deb on its own is tricky10:39
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intelikeyyes10:39
pillowpantsdfreer is awesome for adding that repo10:39
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intelikeyi'm off in 20 minutes.   gooday all.10:41
intelikeytime to make last rounds.10:41
pillowpantssee ya10:41
intelikey!quit shalom10:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about quit shalom - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:41
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pillowpantsim off10:45
pillowpantsthanks for the help10:45
pillowpantsgnight10:45
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user__ 10:47
[nrx] :O10:47
[nrx] user__: try #ubuntu-ru10:48
[nrx] or not10:48
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jonealhi11:09
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contrast83What up, Jucato11:11
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Jucatohm.. not much...11:11
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gustavohi11:13
gustavohi hi11:13
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luishi11:15
emilsedgh!hi | luis11:16
ubotuluis: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!11:16
emilsedgh!hi | gustavo11:16
ubotugustavo: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!11:16
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gustavohi!11:18
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[nrx] ;o11:53
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jokijoany awake out there?11:58
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[nrx] :)11:59
[nrx] nope11:59
siraghola11:59
[nrx] hi11:59
jokijohey11:59
[nrx] *yawns*11:59
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jokijoim transferring like 30 gigs of music from one harddrive to the other12:00
jokijoits taking forever12:00
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jokijoactually it's going a lot faster than i expected12:11
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gomatteoHi all. I'm thinking that we don't need python for daemons, like guidance-power-manager or guidance-power-manager. Why not rewrite them in C++?12:16
emilsedghgomatteo: whats wrong with python?12:17
Jucatonot really the place to ask this question gomatteo12:17
Jucatoand please, be patient in waiting for the answer. you already asked this in -devel12:18
gomatteoJucato: Ok, sorry12:18
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Zvezdichkohello, how can I set up Adept so it could clear apt cache after each upgrade?12:22
Jucatoadept doesn't have that feature yet unfortunately12:23
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ZvezdichkoJucato: but is it safe to delete cache manually12:26
Jucatosudo apt-get clean12:26
Jucatothat's the command for it12:26
gustavohttp://picpaste.com/topology.jpg can someone help me? my cabled pc cant access my wireless pc12:26
Zvezdichkothankss12:26
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vapashosi wanna somebody to help me with the installation12:32
vapashosif there is anyone lets talk  private12:32
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SlimeyPete!ask12:33
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:33
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SlimeyPetealso, if you talk in-channel then others can benefit too12:33
vapashoswhen i m trying to install it i get a message starting bluetooth devices and doesnt continue12:34
ZvezdichkoI always had problems with grafical installations12:34
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Zvezdichkowhy don't you try with the alternate disk12:34
Zvezdichko?12:34
vapashosanyone who knows about tis problem?12:34
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vapashosit probably doesnt detects any bluetooth device on my pc12:35
vapashoshow can i make it skip this?12:35
angasuleI tried to install krita but it says they are untrusted packages, how can I check from which repo it's trying to install? (at least, I'm guessing that's why they are 'untrusted')12:35
angasulehey Zvezdichko12:35
SlimeyPetevapashos: as Zvezdichko says, it's probably best to try the alternate CD, see if that works12:35
SlimeyPetethat's always a good first step.12:35
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Zvezdichkobecause the standart CD freezes a lot12:36
vapashosthe cd i use is the one i burned after downloading the latest version of kubuntu12:36
vapashosthere is not any other alternate cd12:36
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SlimeyPetevapashos: yes there is.12:36
SlimeyPetecheck the ubuntu website.12:36
vapashosare you sure?12:37
SlimeyPetecertain. I've used it several times.12:37
SlimeyPeteit's towards the bottom of the download page.12:37
vapashosi ll check it12:37
vapashosdid you have the same problem?12:38
ZvezdichkoI've had a similar12:38
Zvezdichkobut the alternate install was successful12:38
angasulefunny, now krita installs without complaint...12:38
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vapashoswhen you saw alternate do you mean the previous version?12:39
SlimeyPetenope12:40
Zvezdichkono12:40
Zvezdichkoit's the same version12:40
emonkeyhttp://cdimages.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/current/12:40
Zvezdichkobut it uses the standart Debian installer12:40
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SlimeyPetevapashos: check the "Check here if you need the alternate desktop CD. This CD does not include the Live CD, instead it uses a text-based installer."12:40
SlimeyPetebox12:40
SlimeyPeteon http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download12:40
ZvezdichkoI never trust grafical installers12:41
Zvezdichkothey are too buggy12:41
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Zvezdichkobut remember! this one may seem to "freeze" for a long time.12:41
emonkeyAlternate install CD12:42
emonkeyThe alternate install CD allows you to perform certain specialist installations of Kubuntu.12:42
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emonkeyfor example on: http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/mirror/ubuntu-cdimage/kubuntu/feisty/12:42
angasulePBCAK is the most common source of failure, Zvezdichko12:42
Zvezdichkoisn't that old- feisty? I use gutsy and I have updates every day12:42
[nrx] meh12:42
[nrx] need a better theme12:43
emonkeyangasule, mostly the alternate worked better12:43
vapashosi have another question12:43
vapashoswhen i m searching throw adept i can t find beryl12:43
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Zvezdichkovapashos: have you enabled universe/multiverse12:43
vapashoshow can i enable this?12:44
vapashosi suppose that  something s going wrong with my repositories12:44
JucatoZvezdichko: feisty? old? gutsy won't even be released until October. and feisty will receive support until October of next year12:44
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Zvezdichkovapashos: wait... I have the very same problem here12:45
ZvezdichkoJucato: but I'm currently using gutsy :)12:45
Jucatothe only reason you have updates everyday is because gutsy isn't stable yet (till alpha)... after release, updates won't come as often12:45
gustavomy notebook cant shut down , what can i do? it doesnt responds12:47
Zvezdichkogustavo: Cntrl+Alt+Esc12:47
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Zvezdichkoor manually ps aux then kill number12:47
Jucatoer?12:47
gustavoZvezdichko: dont work :(12:47
JucatoCtrl+Alt+Esc = xkill only12:47
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gustavoit doesnt respond to nothing12:48
jussi01can someone mention an application to convert normal pictures to lineart?12:48
gustavoit says : acpi_power_off called, but go no further12:48
ZvezdichkoJucato: oh, right :)12:48
gustavobut console pointer is blinking12:48
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evanshelooooo12:50
evansany112:50
ZvezdichkoI thought it was a program related problem12:50
Zvezdichkonot about a system halt12:50
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evansdoes anyone know of any good CAD programs?12:51
timevans: for what?12:52
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timi.e. 3D, technical drawing, simulation?12:52
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Jucatoqcad? kicad?12:53
Jucatosupper?12:54
Jucatoheh12:54
Zvezdichkodoh! is there seamonkey for Kubuntu?12:54
jussi01!autocad12:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about autocad - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:54
jussi01hrmph, there used to be a factoid12:54
jussi01!cad12:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cad - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:54
Jucato!info qcad12:54
evansCAD for furniture drawing12:55
ubotuqcad: A professional CAD System. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.5.0-1-2 (feisty), package size 2950 kB, installed size 12596 kB12:55
Jucato!info kicad12:55
ubotukicad: Electronic schematic and PCB design software. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.20060829-1 (feisty), package size 2117 kB, installed size 5808 kB12:55
evansfurniture drawing and design12:55
JucatoZvezdichko: no seamonkey, but there's iceape12:55
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jussi01so qcad most likely evans12:55
evanscan Qcad draw in 3D?12:55
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ZvezdichkoJucato: it also looks veeery heavy12:56
Zvezdichkomy box is quite old12:56
timhttp://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=101703&page=112:56
Jucatoseamonkey *is* heavy12:56
tim3d stuff12:56
jussi01evans: I dont know. but are dxf files something you know about?12:57
Jucato!info blender12:57
ubotublender: Very fast and versatile 3D modeller/renderer. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.43-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 7120 kB, installed size 18600 kB12:57
Jucato!info wings3d12:57
ubotuwings3d: Nendo-inspired 3D polygon mesh modeller. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.98.35-4 (feisty), package size 3026 kB, installed size 4676 kB12:57
timevans: blender is a 3d modeling package. its pretty nice, but not a cad package. alternatively if your looking for something like solidworks, there should be something out there with a little googling12:58
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timevans: but I think blender will do you unless you need to do some kind of simulation12:58
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evansno a simulation really12:58
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jussi01[13:48]  <jussi01> can someone mention an application to convert normal pictures to lineart?12:59
jussi01:)12:59
timevans: http://www.cycas.de/ will do you for sim then, dont know if its free12:59
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timjussio01: I actually just wrote a java prog to do that if you want it01:00
Zvezdichkois there an alternative for Windows movie maker01:00
Zvezdichkoor a simple program for creating videos01:00
SlimeyPeteZvezdichko: kino, cinelarra, pitivi01:00
timjussi01: I can make it nicer if you give me 5 minutes, then pastebin the source to you01:01
SlimeyPetenone of them are quite as simple/stable as WMM, though01:01
timjussi01: U want?01:01
jussi01tim: I have a whole lot to do, so thanks, but I cant have you doing it all for me... ;)01:02
jussi01Zvezdichko: kdenlive01:02
jussi01not in the repos yet, but in gutsy01:02
ZvezdichkoI use Gutsy :001:02
jussi01sudo apt-get install kdenlive01:02
jussi01:)01:02
Zvezdichkookay :) but firstly I have to update once again01:03
jussi01:)01:03
ZvezdichkoI find it boring01:03
Zvezdichko:)01:03
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Zvezdichkothe update process is finished and after five minutes :) Oh, look, there are 30 packages available for update :)01:03
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timjussi01: what I'm offering is a simple edge detecter which converts a photo type image to a sketch like line image. its a script that takes an image name as a command line argument, and outputs the converted image. output in jpeg. ??01:04
jussi01:)01:04
jussi01tim: perfect! please could I get that!01:04
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jl_hola01:04
timjussi01:ok, I'll neaten it up a bit and put in some parameters01:04
baudthiefCan someone please help with the Kubuntu installation? After trying to boot and selecting "Boot/Install ... etc" it just hangs at the Kubuntu logo, progressbar just pings back and forth01:05
baudthief*Kubuntu feisty01:05
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jussi01baudthief: how long have you waited? is the cd activity?01:06
baudthiefno CD activity, been over 10 minutes now01:06
timjussi01: will do01:06
jussi01thanks :)01:06
jussi01baudthief: restart it in verbose mode01:07
baudthiefhow do I do that?01:07
jussi01remove the quiet argument in the startup line01:07
baudthiefalright gonan try01:07
jussi01ok, im off, see yas all01:07
Zvezdichkohave you already tried the new KDE 4 ( it'ss in gutsy repos )01:08
Zvezdichkoquite unstable, huh01:08
jussi01Zvezdichko: yeah... very unstable...01:08
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Zvezdichkoit even doesn't load plasma01:09
baudthiefinteresting lol... I'm getting LOTS of disc activity now, but a "signal out of range" prompt on my LCD, might just wait a bit more01:09
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baudthiefshit, removing "quiet" just makes it work!?01:11
baudthiefo_O01:11
baudthiefoh well lol, not complaining - time to overwrite windows!01:11
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sbucatwaaaaaaaaaaaaa my sound sistem works greattttttttttttttt01:16
sbucatthanks01:16
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emilsedghwill compiz become the default wm of the kubuntu 7.10?01:26
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ZvezdichkoI hope not ;)01:27
emilsedghZvezdichko: why? I hope it will, Im not its fan, I use kwin myself, but people will like it so much...01:28
slackernI hope it's only enabled as default if a proper driver is detected and installed properly and will fallback otherwise.01:28
Zvezdichkobecause there are still people who use old machines01:28
emilsedghsure it will01:30
slackernI would guess so too, only proper way to implement it without causing too much chaos :)01:31
slackernJust wishing that there will be some proper drivers out for my X1950 card by then :)01:31
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maverick_anyone knows of bandwidth shaper like NETLIMITER in windows?01:32
vapashostry dumeter01:33
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habWhat's the command for starting the restricted driver manager in Kubuntu?01:34
emilsedghhab: Gutsy?01:34
slackernrestricted-manager-kde01:34
habemilsedgh: feisty.01:35
emilsedghhagabaka: feisty has no restricted-manager :(01:35
habAw...01:35
habAlrighty then.01:35
habI was used to Gutsy ^.^01:35
slackernBut im running Gutsy though, it also has an icon in System Settings -> Advanced01:35
habI guess that Envy can do it.01:35
habThanks01:36
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vapashoshow can i be registered user here?01:37
[nrx] vapashos: try /msg nickserv help01:38
maverick_vapashos: is it even for linux?!!01:39
maverick_anyone knows of bandwidth shaper for KUBUNTU like NETLIMITER in windows?01:40
vapashosno its not for linux01:40
maverick_vapashos: well we're in a KUBUNTU channel btw...01:40
maverick_:D01:40
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vapashosdoes any body knows if there is a command to check the cpu utilization and the number of processes running?01:43
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[ifr0g] vapashos, top01:45
[ifr0g] vapashos, or ctrl + esc01:45
vapashosthanks01:46
[ifr0g] np01:46
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Zvezdichkoseasons they come, seasons they go...01:48
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timjussi01: your prog is ready, will mail. edge detection a little fuzzy, will improve, need ciggy first01:50
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pekujadoes anyone know how I could configure Firefox so that I can open downloaded files and that "Open containing folder" would start Konqueror?01:52
pekujabasically, I want Firefox to integrate to KDE a little better.01:52
pekujaI would use Konqueror for web browsing... but I like Firefox's Extensions, and it seems like Konqueror doesn't work very well with Google Reader, which I use a lot01:53
emilsedghpekuja: if youre not an advanced web designer or programmer, Konqueror is a better choice01:53
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vapashoswhen i search on my adept i don't get the latests versions of  the programms i want to install,does anybody knows why??01:54
pekujawell it doesn't seem to work right with Google Reader, and yeah I need it01:54
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emilsedghvapashos: thats the distro' policy, when Ubuntu releases 7.04, it includes (for example) kde 3.5.6, even if kde 3.6 releases after that, there will be no official update for that release of ubuntu to kde 3.601:56
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emilsedghpekuja: if its important for you to have kde intergration, why dont you use akregator? Im not using google reader but it mays konqueror shows it correctly, try changing Browser Identification01:57
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pekujamaybe I'll try it again, but anyways, I don't need Googl Reader to integrate into KDE01:57
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pekujaif "Open" in Firefox's download window can actually open files in the proper applications, and "Open containing folder" opens up Konqueror in said folder, then that's probably enough01:58
JuJuBee_I want to install a dhcp server on my computer to hand out addresses to my classroom.  I would like the addresses to be set statically to each workstation (each workstation always gets the same address).  How do I do that?  I cannot find it in the docs.01:59
pekujaGoogle Reader actually does work ok... but I can't use my scrollwheel to scroll it, which is really weird01:59
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Yz85RacerHey, I nearly got my game working, I run the executable, but I get this error in Terminal X Error of failed request:  GLXUnsupportedPrivateRequest02:00
Yz85Racer  Major opcode of failed request:  143 (GLX)02:00
Yz85Racer  Minor opcode of failed request:  16 (X_GLXVendorPrivate)02:00
Yz85Racer  Serial number of failed request:  18102:00
Yz85Racer  Current serial number in output stream:  1802:00
pekujaI think it's trying to scroll the whole page when it should be scrolling inside a single frame02:00
stdin!paste | Yz85Racer02:00
ubotuYz85Racer: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:00
Yz85Raceroh02:00
Yz85Racerk02:00
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runleveltenwhat you get when you do the following in a shell Yz85Racer? glxinfo | grep endor02:01
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Yz85Racerhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37404/02:02
Yz85Racerrunlevelten, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37404/02:02
combowhat codecs do i need to watch RMVB movies ?? i've installed all codecs with that command :: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37405/ ::02:04
Yz85Racerrunlevelten, you there mate?02:04
combobut it looks something missin' :/02:04
pekujaemilsedgh, my problem with Konqueror is kinda minor and specific to that one site, but I use that site a lot so that ruins it for me :-/02:04
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comboit is written that there is problem about 'drvc.so'02:05
jhutchinscombo: I'd guess you need to install realplayer.02:05
pekujaemilsedgh, Akregator would be fine if I could sync it with Google Reader I guess02:05
emilsedghpekuja: so try akregator :P02:05
runleveltenYz85Racer: what graohics card you using?02:05
Yz85RacerATI02:05
combojhutchins: since now i've used Kaffeine player02:05
Yz85RacerI think that's my card.. Atleast runlevelten..02:06
pekujaemilsedgh, well I want the same feeds whether I'm on my desktop, laptop, or a terminal at the uni02:06
Yz85RacerOr is that my driver?02:06
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pekujaemilsedgh, which is why I use Google Reader02:06
emilsedghpekuja: so i really dunno :)02:06
pekujaemilsedgh, ok, so you don't know of any syncing options for that?02:06
emilsedghpekuja: maybe you could find another web based rss reader?02:06
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pekujamaybe02:07
runleveltendoes grep -e radeon /etc/X11/xorg.conf give you Driver "radeon"?02:07
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pekujaI guess that's a possible idea... will have to look around for what's available02:07
pekujathen again I do like Firefox. my only problem with that is opening files I've downloaded02:07
pekujathat doesn't seem to work out of the box02:08
pekujaI think it does on Gnomebuntu02:08
Yz85Racerrunlevelten, all it does is drop too a new line.02:08
runleveltenpastebin the output of grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf will ya?02:09
runleveltenthanks :)02:09
Yz85Racerrunlevelten,02:09
Yz85RacerIt's one line..02:09
Yz85Racergrep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.con02:09
Yz85Raceroops02:09
Yz85Racergrep: /etc/X11/xorg.con: No such file or director02:09
Yz85Racersorry haa02:10
runleveltenTry pasting it instead of typing it then, save typos ;)02:11
kkathmanlol02:11
Yz85RacerI have been..02:11
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Yz85Raceroops02:11
Yz85Racermissed the f02:11
Yz85Racer:P02:11
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Yz85Racerrunlevelten, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37407/02:12
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=== kkathman wonders what Yz85Racer is trying to do :)
Yz85Racerkkathman, trying to run a game.. :P02:14
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Yz85Racer.....02:15
Yz85RacerIt's a computer game..02:15
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Yz85RacerNo way am I using Winblows.02:15
Yz85Racerrunlevelten, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37407/ is what it's throwing me02:16
kkathmanthen dont expect 100% or windows games to run under linux then :)02:16
kkathmancuz they wont02:16
Yz85Racerthey're not winblows games02:16
kkathmanYz85Racer:  http://frankscorner.org02:16
Yz85RacerIt's the Linux version, just having trouble running it.02:17
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kumamotoanyone seen this http://www.openmoko.com/index.html02:17
emilsedghkumamoto: sure, Im waiting for this phone :P02:18
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runleveltenYz85Racer: You need the 3D drivers installed to play games btw.02:19
runlevelten!binary02:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about binary - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:19
runlevelten!fglrx02:19
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:19
stdin!driver02:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about driver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:19
runleveltenMyse4lf, I'd recommend you install restricted-manager and use that, tbh.02:19
runlevelten*self.02:20
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stdin!driver is <alias> binarydriver02:20
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fatmikehi room02:45
fatmikehow can i install older packages02:45
emilsedgh!hi | fatmike02:45
ubotufatmike: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!02:45
fatmikei want to install qt4.2.302:46
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fatmikebut my system wants to install 4.3.002:46
gustavogenii: gimme some02:46
fatmikeblacklisting?02:46
fatmikedont know02:46
fatmikecan so help me plz?02:46
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Jucatogenii: where were you when I was eating spring rolls for snacks :)02:46
gustavogenii: thanks :D02:46
geniiJucato: Probably I was trying to wake up LOL02:47
Jucatofatmike: how are you trying to install it? and for what?02:47
Jucatohahah :)02:47
fatmikeapt-get install qt4-designer02:47
fatmikebut i have to compile in qt 4.2.302:47
Jucatofatmike: does it have to be exactly 4.2.3??? all 4.x releases are binary/API compatible02:48
fatmikeyes but i get some errors when compiling in 4.302:48
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fatmikethere should be a way to install older packages?!02:48
Jucatowhat would be the error? and are you sure the error is related to the version?02:49
fatmikestrange errors02:49
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fatmikebutz i HAVE to compile02:49
fatmikein 4.2.302:49
Jucatostrange errors don't tell me much... :)02:49
fatmikeyess02:49
fatmikebut i dont need al sove to the error02:49
fatmikei need a hint to instal older packages ;)02:49
Jucatowhy do you HAVE to compile in 4.2.3?02:50
fatmikea collegue told be to do so02:50
Jucatothe thing is, you "strange errors" might not be related to version number at all02:50
fatmikeok i will check it later02:50
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fatmikebut for quick fix i have to compile in 4.2.302:50
Jucatowhat are you compiling btw? and what package did you specifically install?02:51
Jucatoyou need the -dev package for Qt. it might be complaining that it can't find Qt headers and libraries02:51
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geniin8k99: Yay! More coffeee! ;)02:51
fatmikei want to have qt4dev,qt4 designer, assistant and mysql support02:52
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fatmikei read st about /etc/apt/preferences and pinning02:52
fatmikeis this the right place?02:52
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Jucatoprobably... but I'm quite doubtful that it is the source of the problem... but if you say so...02:53
fatmikeok i just want to compile in 4.2.302:53
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fatmikelater this week i will check if it also compiles in 4.3 and if not speak with you again about the compile prob02:54
Jucatofatmike: can you just try, and I mean really just try, installing libqt4-dev then compiling?02:54
fatmikeare you firm with qt ?02:54
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vbhidei have heard kubuntu works faster with drivers installed......... does anyone know how to do that?02:54
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SlimeyPetevbhide: you mean graphics drivers?02:55
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vbhideperhaps... i don't really know....:) how do you install graphics drivers?02:56
SlimeyPete!nvidia02:56
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:56
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SlimeyPetevbhide: on Linux systems, drivers are implemented as kernel modules. All of the most popular modules (and many obscure ones) are included with Ubuntu and enabled by default if you have the right hardware.02:57
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fatmikeok no error in 4.302:57
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SlimeyPetesome proprietary ones (such as nvidia drivers) aren't, though.02:57
fatmikeh how do i check my qt version that i have installed?02:57
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Jucatofatmike: by default, the system will use Qt 3 because it is what KDE 3.x needs/uses.02:58
Jucato"qmake -v" tells you the version02:58
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djfito1buenos dias a todos dese mexico02:58
Jucatoif you want to explicitly launch a Qt 4 app, you have to use the direct path/filename02:58
SlimeyPete!mexican02:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mexican - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:58
SlimeyPeteheh02:58
SlimeyPete!sp02:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:58
SlimeyPete!es02:58
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.02:58
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fatmikeok thanx mate02:59
Jucatohm.. spanish or Portuguese?02:59
fatmikeit just works with compile in qt 4.3 :)02:59
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Jucatofatmike: told yah :P02:59
fatmikecan i ask you again if i receive any 'strange errors' ?02:59
vbhidethankyou slimeypete! i have a presario v2000.... doubt if i need any driver then02:59
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Jucatofatmike: you could also use the pastebin (see the channel's topic) so that we could all see the errors so that they won't be so strange anymore03:00
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fatmikei will do so03:02
fatmikeso thank you and byebye!03:02
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rivohi, has anyone succeeded in installing fglrx driver on kubuntu feisty?03:03
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rivoall my attempts have failed with something like "DRI initialization failed (maybe driver kernel module is missing or bad)" in var/log/Xorg.log, no matter how I install it03:04
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werswhat tweaks can I do to make my Kubuntu desktop faster?03:08
stdinrivo: have you looked at the help page?03:08
wersI am running it on a laptop with humble specs03:08
stdin!ati | rivo03:09
uboturivo: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:09
wersI turned of much of the effects already but I want it to be faster03:09
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Jucatohow humble are those specs? :)03:09
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rivostdin: yes, I also tried installing with envy which should take care of it automatically but nothing has worked03:10
stdinrivo: if you use more than one method without completely removing the last then you'll mess things up03:11
slackernktorrent worked better than i thought it would feels like it's come quite a long way since the last time i tried it03:11
rivostdin: I tried envy with clean install now, still nothing03:11
stoneagepimpanybody know how to play m4p music files?03:11
stdinrivo: and you have the linux-restricted-modules package for your kernel installed?03:12
jessejazzaWhy not use XFCE or GNOME and add the bits missing that you want to use from KDE. I installed all 3 yesterday and have to say that i'm not that impressed with KDE. Removed it but have kept one or two programs i like.03:12
stdin!codecs | stoneagepimp03:12
ubotustoneagepimp: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:12
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rivostdin: yes it is03:13
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stdinrivo: it could be that your card isn't supported by the driver any more, ATI tend to completely remove support for older cards after a while03:15
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rivostdin: it's radeon 9550 which is supported according to docs03:16
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stoneagepimpthanks03:18
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hismajestyhi03:20
hismajestyi heve a pb with my pc03:20
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n8k99!question03:22
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)03:23
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hismajestyso excuse my english but it started alone03:24
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bullfrogwow I love ubuntu so far! Been windows free since the weekend :D03:25
n8k99congrats bullfrog03:25
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hismajestyis there someone who speak french03:26
hismajesty??03:27
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ubunturos!kubuntu-fr03:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu-fr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:27
ubunturos!ubuntu-fr03:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-fr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:27
n8k99!fr03:27
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.03:27
ubunturos!fr03:27
hismajestythanks03:27
n8k99welcome03:28
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shriphanican someone tell me the default kubuntu fonts03:30
shriphaniI messed up with mine and they um... don't look good.03:30
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n8k99Kedage03:30
JucatoSans/Sans Serif03:30
shriphanierr ?03:30
dhqi have a epson lx-800 printer it is a 9 pin dot printer.I tried LX 1050 driver which is for 24 PIN , it work so bad ..almost Un-ReadAlbe Text.03:31
shriphanin8k99: mind if you can tell me one by one ?03:31
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geniidhq: You can't find a Generic 9 Pin dot Matrix    printer driver to install?03:32
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shriphaniJucato: go ahead then.03:32
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dhqgenii, where03:32
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Jucatoshriphani: I already answer. all of them are Sans Serif03:33
Jucatoexcept Fixed width, which would be Monospace03:33
shriphaniok and font aliasing enabled ?03:33
JucatoWindow Title would be bold03:33
geniidhq: in the list of printer drivers in System Settings...Printer03:34
dhqgenii, which one do i choose03:34
Jucatoshriphani: mine says "System settings"03:34
geniidhq: 1 minute I'll go there and see whats available03:35
dhqk03:35
geniidhq:For manufacturer, choose Generic. Then for printer, IBM-Compatible Dot Matrix Printer03:37
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baudthiefanything like UltraVNC for linux/kubuntu? One that doesnt start a new x-session, just takes control of a machine on the LAN03:38
dhqgenii, is it a 9 pin03:38
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baudthief(other than krfb I mean)03:38
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geniidhq: IBM made 9 and 24 pin dot-matrix03:40
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geniidhq: If you wait a bit i'll try to find something else if you like03:41
dhqgenii, well i have no time well try this one03:41
dhqgenii, if you get any better info let me kno03:41
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geniidhq: Epson TSQ-4800 driver apparently provides also generic 9 pin03:44
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dhqgenii, thanks i will check it out03:45
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PhinnFortI can't get tomcat5.5 to run03:46
PhinnFortand tomcat5 isn't available in gutsy03:46
PhinnFort!tomcat03:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tomcat - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:46
PhinnFortrather, it runs, but it only returns completely blank pages03:47
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kirk!format03:47
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter03:47
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saltireI've just installed kubuntu but konqueror won't load any websites03:49
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kirk!gparted03:51
ubotuGParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php03:51
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PhinnFort!linux03:51
ubotuLinux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux03:51
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wershow do I prevent beagle from running automatically everytime I log in?03:52
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bullfrogI have a little anoyance with kubuntu now, sometimes when my screen comes back from powersaving or if I log out and in again the mouse pointer goes invisble :/03:53
PhinnFortit's magic03:53
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kirkcan i use gparted to format my secondary hard drive? im on kubuntu 7.0403:54
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aantipopmy 5,5 gig root partition is 9X % full, are there some things i can remove from it ? aptitude auoclean already gave me 200 mb03:58
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SlimeyPeteaantipop: just remove any applications which you don't use03:59
alexbe01__erm, check /tmp03:59
aantipopoh okay03:59
alexbe01__it may not all be able to be deleted, but there's probably some03:59
kirki have a 2nd hard drive mounted, how can i format it?03:59
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aantipoptemp is nearly empty, just had a fresh start04:00
danyahello recently I cant seem to edit my source list .... wondering why :S?04:00
SlimeyPete!mk2fs04:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mk2fs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:01
SlimeyPeteheh04:01
Daisuke_Laptopdanya: sudo04:01
SlimeyPete!format04:01
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter04:01
SlimeyPetekirk: check out mkfs04:01
Daisuke_Laptopor just google it ffs04:01
kirk!mkfs04:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mkfs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:01
kirklol im lost, i just switched to kubuntu, been on windows my whole life04:02
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Daisuke_Laptopahh...04:03
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Parkerw207Heya everyone , i am having trouble using the kubuntu live cd's , for some reason it does not get past the load of sequence at the start and simply sits there doing nothing04:03
Daisuke_Laptopit will be okay :)04:03
aantipopkirk, the easiest way is gparted or qtparted04:03
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SlimeyPetekirk: mkfs -t ext3 /dev/sda1  (where sda1 is your hard disk device) I think. Otherwise, gparted may be able to do it graphically.04:04
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Daisuke_LaptopParkerw207: recent core 2 duo laptop?04:04
Parkerw207well its not a laptop04:04
Parkerw207but its core duo04:04
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kirkill check out gparted first before i start putting in commands i know nothing about04:04
Daisuke_Laptopthen it's probably not the santa rosa issue04:04
Daisuke_Laptopmake sure the disc burned correctly04:05
aantipopwow whats the difference between aptitude clean and autoclean ?04:05
kirkit says gparted is a GNOME Partition Editor, is that compatiable with kubuntu?04:05
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Parkerw207its one they sent me in the post , the old version i know , but i was just seeing how it fairs with my wifi network adapter , i know the trouble linux has with wifi04:05
aantipopah "man aptitude"04:06
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Daisuke_Laptopthe trouble linux has with wifi is slowly but surely becoming like the trouble linux used to have with cable modems04:06
aantipophow do i leave manpages ? ctrl + c doesnt work04:06
Daisuke_Laptopthat was worded wrong04:06
SlimeyPeteaantipop: q04:06
aantipopaah, thanks04:07
Daisuke_Laptopat any rate, wireless issues continually get fixed and it's getting less and less painful to use wireless in linux04:07
Parkerw207yes i am aware of that and i am not completely dumb when it comes to computer so i think i would be able to sort any problems that come up , but the fact that it doesnt even load in live mode is a concern04:07
Daisuke_Laptopi would agree with you04:07
Parkerw207i mean , my machine is a very powerfull one so i was a tad shocked when it sat there idle04:07
Daisuke_Laptopdoes it drop to busybox or do anything?04:08
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Daisuke_LaptopParkerw207: if it's fairly new (last 5-6 months or so) it could be an issue with the intel platform, OR you have a newer ati graphics card which is notoriously unreliable (again, for now)04:08
Parkerw207hmm , no , its shows that everything loads ok , all the hardware drivers , abstraction layer etc... but then when its about to load up the GUI i asume , its stalls04:09
Daisuke_Laptopctrl+alt+f2 take you to a vt?04:09
Parkerw207i built it just after may , the components are new as far as i am aware , how long they have been out i am not sure04:09
Parkerw207i havent tried that04:10
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Parkerw207i am a bit of a linux newbie but i can get my head around most problems04:10
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Parkerw207and its not just kubuntu , its ubuntu , suse and fedora that dont work either04:10
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Daisuke_Laptopall live cds?04:11
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Parkerw207yes04:11
Parkerw207so it must be hardware related i assume04:11
Daisuke_Laptoptry the alternate install cd04:11
Daisuke_Laptopit sounds like there's a general issue with livecds, i have the same problem here04:12
geniiBy any chance it it some Intel i810 video card? The vesa driver in xorg.conf for that needs to be changed if it's the case04:12
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Parkerw207ahhh i now remeber what CPU i have , intel pentium D 3.2ghz dual core , and no i dont think i have that card04:13
Daisuke_Laptopnvidia or ati?04:13
Parkerw207my graphics chip uses RADEON X800GT\04:13
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Daisuke_Laptop...well then...04:13
bjwebbhmm04:13
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bjwebbi can't move my mouse04:13
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Parkerw207i would of thought them components were old enough to be supported04:15
SlimeyPeteI used to use ubuntu on the same CPU, no problem04:16
Parkerw207yes i know , i dont think its the CPU somehow04:16
geniiParkerw207: Well, something to try some kernel options at boot. Specifically there noacpi worked for my desktop Pentium D system.04:16
SlimeyPetepossibly a motherboard issue04:16
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Parkerw207i use an ASUS motherboard if i remember rightly lol04:17
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geniiAlso there was an issue with some pcmcia driver keep wanting to load which was freezing the system, let me see if i can find the link04:17
geniiParkerw207: Asus board here too, P5K-SE04:17
kirki plan on using this disk as storage, when i format while file system should i use?04:18
Parkerw207i am not to sure whihc one mine is i shall just go find out04:18
kirkwhich*04:18
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Parkerw207P5VD2-MX04:18
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Daisuke-Idokirk: is it going to be shared between windows and linux?04:18
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slawekHOW TO RUN MACROMEDIA FIREWORKS?04:18
slawekPLEASE FAST HELP!04:19
kirkno04:19
kirkonly running kubuntu04:19
kirkits just going to be storage04:19
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aantipopext3 then04:19
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arashslawek, hmm,does that really work for Kubuntu? (I have no idea, but it's common Linux users use GNU substitutes)04:21
Parkerw207is it possible to install Kubuntu over the internet not using a disk ?04:21
geniiParkerw207: Anyhow, I needed to use alternate CD, then go to the busybox console and rm the file /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/i82365.o   because trying to load it was stalling the system04:21
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Parkerw207genii : i see , i might try that then , its annoying when things like this happen eh :P04:21
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geniiParkerw207: Yes!04:22
BluesKajHiyas All :)04:22
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josephhello everyone04:22
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BluesKajthx genii :)04:23
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dhqgenii, well the printer takes ages to print where as in windows it hardly takes 10 secs04:24
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josephdoes anyone know how to add a script to Konversation?04:24
dhqgenii, what to do ???04:24
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xp_killer!hi | joseph04:25
ubotujoseph: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!04:25
webHi all. Do you speak Russian?04:25
geniidhq: In the end it does print correctly however?04:25
dhqgenii, we have a problem of electricity here04:25
dhqgenii, i need it fast04:26
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xp_killerdhq: get an genarator04:26
n8k99!rs04:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:26
dhqxp_killer, ???04:26
BluesKaj!ru | web04:26
ubotuweb:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke04:26
geniixp_killer: If he's using a 9 pin dot matrix printer i imagine not much cash for generators :)04:26
n8k99thanks BluesKaj04:26
xp_killertru04:27
web<ubotu>04:27
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geniidhq: The only thing i could suggest is to give printing a higher priority by what is called "renicing" the process. You make the computer give it higher priority04:28
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xp_killerBluesKaj: how do i open a port04:29
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xp_killerBluesKaj: and if i do open one will someone see it?04:30
BluesKajxp_killer, on a router?04:30
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gundam_rx78nt1I was installing a screensaver called kcomet3.  When I tried to compile it, it asked for the kde headers. I installed the kde headers but it installed all of kde 3.5.x and now I have lost all my icons on all tool bars. How can I correct that?04:32
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gundam_rx78nt1does anybody know how to start the kdewizard?04:34
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emilsedghgundam_rx78nt1: kpersonalizer04:35
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ubuntuwhat is the live cd default user and password ?04:37
X1398hi04:37
X1398may be root?04:37
gundam_rx78nt1I can't see my tool bars. I have them selected to be displayed but they don't show up on my applications04:37
ubuntuX1398 , yes but what is the passowrD?04:38
BluesKajgundam_rx78nt1, kde desktop or gnome?04:38
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gundam_rx78nt1kde04:38
X1398n0 password? or even root04:38
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ubuntuand there is also "ubuntu" user what is his password ?04:38
X1398or kubuntu try some04:38
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X1398ubuntu ubuntu?04:39
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BluesKajgundam_rx78nt1, that's cuz you have to configure kde to your liking , it doesn't transfer your settings from gnoem04:39
arashI'm wondering , is Koffice better than OpenOffice?04:39
BluesKajerr gnome04:39
X1398openoffice is my prefered04:39
gundam_rx78nt1BluesKaj, I don't use gnome.04:39
gundam_rx78nt1:)04:39
gundam_rx78nt1I was trying to install a screen saver that needed the kde header files installed04:40
arashI dont even seem to be able to find them in adept-insalltion... is it really that bad?04:40
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gundam_rx78nt1I selected to install it and apt-get installed all of kde 3.504:40
X1398my kubuntu doesn't boot -.- only debug an startx does it04:40
gundam_rx78nt1Now, all of my tool bars (doesn't matter what application it is) aren't appearing.04:41
BluesKajgundam_rx78nt1, sounds to me like you re-installed a different version of kde than the onew you were using04:41
rjbargh, a compile with gcc just crashed my machine:(04:41
ubuntuX1398 , no it isnt04:41
X1398ubuntu: -.-04:41
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devianceWhata  good program for video editing?04:41
deviance!videoediting04:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about videoediting - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:42
X1398ubuntu: u use kde?04:42
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Jucato!info kdenlive04:42
ubotuPackage kdenlive does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas04:42
Jucatohm.04:42
X1398ubuntu: i mean the kubuntu version?04:42
ubuntuX1398 , yes and im on live cd04:42
BluesKajdeviance, most ppl recommend avidemux , although i've seldom used it04:42
ubuntuX1398 , yes04:42
X1398ubuntu: may be my internet should work porbably now mom04:43
devianceCool04:43
ksivajiwhat does GTK stand for ?04:43
SlimeyPeteGNOME ToolKit (used to be GIMP ToolKit)04:44
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josephdoes anyone know how to add a script to Konversation?04:44
JucatoSlimeyPete: err. no04:44
Jucatoit's still the GIMP Tool Kit04:44
ubuntusomeone ?04:45
SlimeyPeteoh right. OK... I'm sure I had this conversation on freenode quite recently and was told it was now Gnome04:45
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Jucatojoseph: just put the bash/python script in ~/.kde/share/apps/konversation/scripts/ then add a command alias04:45
ksivajihow far GTK is used by programmers04:46
SlimeyPeteksivaji: it's used a lot04:46
josephthanks jucato04:46
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ksivajiis it worth to learn GTK or something else is better04:46
X1398ubuntu: ?04:46
JucatoGTK and Qt both04:46
X1398ubuntu: found something04:46
SlimeyPeteksivaji: some people prefer QT. KDE uses QT.04:47
ksivaji!QT04:47
ubotuQt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI. Install the libqt3-mt-dev package to compile Qt applications04:47
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rediz_help pls04:48
Parkerw207does anyone know where you can find detailed lists of Wifi cards that wokr out of the box with Kubuntu ?04:48
X1398do i have to install nvidia drivers in ubuntu?04:48
SlimeyPeteX1398: if you want 3D support, yes. Otherwise, no.04:49
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rediz_cant get wifi card (belkin) working. anybody got any ideas please04:51
ubuntusomeone know the password for : ubuntu user in livecd ?04:51
rediz_what support for wifi is there04:51
BluesKaj!wifi04:51
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:51
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rediz_cheers m8t04:52
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BluesKaj!ndiswrapper | rediz_04:54
uboturediz_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:54
BluesKajok, 3 diff commands give the same response .04:54
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Parkerw207does anyone here use wifi and kubuntu succesfully ? if so could you name the network card you use?04:55
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BluesKajParkerw207, dunno for sure but broadcom cards seem to have more trouble than most04:56
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Parkerw207hmm , see i have a D-Link AirPlus G DWL-G510 Wireless PCI Adapter(rev.C) and that doesnt work , but aprently (rev.A) does04:57
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Parkerw207hwo annoying , i just wondered if anyone knew of one that worked straight otut of the box04:57
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ksivajiJucato :if glxinfo shows direct rendering : no how to set it to yes04:58
xp_killerBluesKaj: to open a port on my router it askin me for and adress does kotepe have an adress?and for the port if i open one like 12 do i have to add a next one like 1304:58
Jucatoksivaji: install the driver for your video card that will give you 3D hardware acceleration (nvidia or ati)04:59
ksivajiJucato driver is a software or hardware04:59
Jucatosoftware05:00
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BluesKajxp_killer, is kopete asking for that port ?05:00
ksivajiJucato can i install any driver or it depends on my hardware ?05:00
Jucatoksivaji: of course it depends on your video card. you can't install an nvidia driver for an ati video card05:00
ksivajiJucato how to find vedio driver for my hardware05:01
Jucatowhat is your video card?05:01
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xp_killerBluesKaj: no but for me to send i file to someone i never got true so i read on a website that i need to open a port to send files to my friends05:02
reallyjoelWhat exactly is a 'session'? Is it a RAM-dump, or a list of running processes? Or something else?05:02
Jucatoreallyjoel: what do you mean?05:03
ksivajiJucato http://pastebin.com/d7659f8205:03
reallyjoelYou can save 'sessions'05:03
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reallyjoelI want to know what is saved05:03
Jucatohold a sec05:03
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reallyjoelprobably not a ram-dump..05:04
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Jucatoreallyjoel: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/quickstart/logging-out.html#session-management05:04
reallyjoelthanks05:04
Jucatodefinitely not a ram dump. that would be standby/suspend05:04
BluesKajxp_killer, don't open ports below 1100 as a rule unless required by the client thru a special server05:05
devianceWhat is the highest port avalible?05:06
reallyjoelAh, it's up to the specific app to decide what to do.. that explains some05:06
Jucatoksivaji: you're video card is a built-in S3 unichrome. I don't think there is a driver for it that will give you direct rendering. you need a "real" video card05:06
xp_killerBluesKaj: ok but my routor askin for an adress i dont understand05:06
Jucatoreallyjoel: it's really more like a snapshot of the state of KDE05:06
Jucatoin a way it's like suspend I think (or that type that writes the state to the disk)05:07
ksivajiJucato why we dont have driver for built-in S3 unichrome.05:08
corradoho istallato xmms con i relativi codec ma quando faccio partire un mp3 dopo qualche secondo non si sente pi l'audio come posso fare ?05:08
Jucatoksivaji: we don05:08
slackerndeviance: 65536 is the highest port available i think05:08
Jucatoksivaji: we don't have a driver that will give you direct rendering05:08
BluesKajxp_killer, what is the name of the address?05:08
devianceCool :D05:09
PupenoHow do I configure a list of domain names to search when resolving? modifing /etc/resolv.conf is not good enough, it gets overwritten.05:09
wershow do I prevent beagle from running automatically whenever I log in?05:09
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xp_killerBluesKaj: its kopete im using not a website im going to05:09
ksivajiJucato but windows has driver for built-in S3 unichrome05:09
Lunenfelddoes KDE (gutsy) mount external HDs automatically?05:10
Jucatoksivaji: so does linux. but neither of them have drivers that do direct rendering05:10
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BluesKajxp_killer, can you access port mapping on you router ?05:10
Jucatoksivaji: all hardware need drivers in order for you to use them. in the case of video card drivers, you need one with 3D hardware acceleration to be able to have direct rendering05:11
PupenoLunenfeld: Kubuntu does mount external HDs automatically.05:11
xp_killerBluesKaj: yes05:11
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deviance!ftp05:11
ubotuFTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd05:11
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Jucatoksivaji: in short, you are already using a driver right now, but not a driver that will give you direct rendering. and most built-in video cards don't have those special kind of drivers05:11
LunenfeldPupeno and there should be an icon created on the desktop for a mounted volume, right?05:11
slackerndeviance: if you are running gutsy you could try out filezilla it's in the repos05:11
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xp_killerBluesKaj: http://kopete.kde.org/faq.php#id2291952 this is the website i read wa they wat port to open http://kopete.kde.org/faq.php#id229195205:11
reallyjoelis there statistics over how many linux users uses gnome versus kde?05:11
BluesKajxp_killer, ok go to port mapping and open the tcp/udp port numder that kopete wants to use05:11
xp_killerBluesKaj: msn05:11
PupenoLunenfeld: mounted or not, the icon should be there.05:11
devianceslackern: I'm on feisty05:12
LunenfeldPupeno what if not. How could i access the HD anyway?05:12
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slackerndeviance: ahh alright, not sure if it's there05:12
PupenoLunenfeld: look into how to use the mount command.05:12
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PupenoLunenfeld: the dmesg command can help you find the divice name.05:12
devianceDoesnt appear to be slackern05:12
xp_killerBluesKaj: go to wat?mapping? i taught u mean if i can get in my router05:12
dwuomoalguien en espaol?05:13
LunenfeldPupeno ok thanks!05:13
devianceI'm try casablanca though05:13
ksivajiJucato ok ok i am clear05:13
Pupeno!es05:13
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:13
Pupeno!es to dwuomo05:13
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about es to dwuomo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:13
ksivaji!Motif05:13
ninhobombahello.. is there anyway to get monitor mode on ndiswrapper?... my findings on google seem disappointing05:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about motif - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:13
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BluesKajxp_killer, that's what the operation is called , when you open or close a port on your router it's called port mapping...in your case you need to open tcp port 6891 for an application.05:14
Search4Lancerhow do I either boot directly to a terminal, or get out of Xfce right now to a terminal?05:15
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PupenoSearch4Lancer: ctrl-alt-f1 should take you to a terminal.05:16
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PupenoSearch4Lancer: I don't know of a way to boot to a terminal, unless you boot in sigle-user mode.05:16
Search4Lancerah... I was doing ctrl-alt-backspace, thanks05:16
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PupenoSearch4Lancer: ctrl-alt-F1..12 will give you different terminals, one being the grafical one.05:17
X1398dont post things like ctrl-alt-backspace may be one of the newbies press is and want to get alle the free stuff xD05:17
xp_killerBluesKaj: and how do i do that?05:18
X1398xD05:18
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kennyhave any of you tried the kde4 beta 2 packages yet?05:19
ksivajiits time for google to shutdown ,see "ask" search engine05:19
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ksivajireally super05:19
X1398ask what05:19
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X1398frozen dont press it again xD05:19
kennythe reason i ask is because on the new panel i keep getting "object can not be created" messages05:20
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ksivajiX1398 it is a search engine05:20
X1398ksivaji: for what05:21
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X1398www?ftp?files?my room?05:21
Jucatokenny: because the object for that is found in something not packaged by Kubuntu05:21
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savage_lunchmmmm...wtf? ask?05:21
savage_lunchask isn't like google05:21
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kennyJucato, thnks, is this something that we need to compile ourselves?  i find it odd that the instructions say to use plasma, but i don't see anything to use05:22
BluesKajxp_killer, what router do you have?...I'm sure you router has a manufacturer's website with a how to tutorial on ''port mapping"05:22
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Jucatokenny: the standard plasma is already there. but there are others that are in development that are found in KDE's svn. yes you have to compile them yourselves. but you might have to compile KDE 4's kdesupport, kdelibs, kdepimlibs, kdebase for it05:23
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ksivajisavage_lunch your correct ask is better than google05:24
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ksivajisavage_lunch you are*  correct ask is better than google05:24
kennyJucato, gotcha.  I'll have to play around with that later, thanks for the info!05:25
xp_killerBluesKaj: livebox05:25
BluesKajksivaji, ask = question05:25
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ironfroggyhow can i reset my X config from the command line?05:25
ninhobombadoes anybody know a way to get listen mode on a broadcom using ndiswrapper?05:26
ironfroggyi tried to configure what monitor i have, because the generic doesn't allow a high enough res. but now x wont start.05:26
BluesKajwell xp_killer , look for your router instructions ... maybe you have a booklet at home or there's one on the net ...they are all differnt ..time for you to do some research on your own.05:26
X1398help, i clicked in konquerer on a file and i got opend up with KATE is this file somewhere in temp or so?05:26
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xp_killerBluesKaj: ok05:27
=== xp_killer google is my best friend :)
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X1398where does konqueror save temp files from downloads?05:28
stdinX1398: in /tmp/$USER-kde05:29
ninhobombaplease... i need help getting monitor mode to work on my wifi... pretty please?05:29
BluesKajironfroggy, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ... choose the plugnplay monitor setting until you can figure out which graphics and monitor drivers to use .05:29
stdinX1398:  erm kde-$USER05:29
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ironfroggythere is not a setting for my monitor. i tried a model very near to it, but no go.05:30
X1398stdin: its not there -.-  ive downloaded linuxdriver from nvidia it got opened up with kate i closed it without save05:31
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stdinX1398: when it's closed it's normally gone, and why don't you use the ubuntu packages?05:32
X1398stdin: what packages? There isnt a 8800GTX in there ...05:33
stdin!nvidia05:33
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:33
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xp_killerstdin: i have the driver for my ati graph card i falow the instruction but they told me the file does not exsit.why?05:35
stdinxp_killer: who told you what doesn't exist?05:35
xp_killerstdin: dos05:36
cedric__hi all, do you know a french irc canal ?05:36
stdinhuh? that doesn't answer my question05:36
stdin!fr | cedric__05:36
ubotucedric__: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.05:36
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BluesKajironfroggy, one can find the right hardware driver on the web most of the time, even tho it's not listed in system settings05:37
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xp_killerstdin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-796aa4d6d0477c8ed722acef1878cc5626855ae3-2 at the part where they say replace <version> by the name of your driver u download05:37
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stdinxp_killer: why are you using the download, and not the package?05:38
xp_killerstdin: fglrx?05:39
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ironfroggywell i should just need the sync ranges, right?05:39
stdinxp_killer: xorg-driver-fglrx05:39
shankyI'm trying to install a new printer, in kubuntu gutsy, but I can't select the proper driver from the printer assistant05:39
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ksivaji!guisty05:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about guisty - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:41
ksivaji!gusty05:41
ubotuIt is spelt !guTSy :)05:41
ksivaji!guTSy05:41
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+105:41
xp_killerstdin: i tink it's install allready but 10hours ago my resolution disapair and i could get it back so i perfer install the one that was ment for my graph card.and even beryl freez my pc sometimes05:41
shankyI have an epson stylus dx3800, but there are few edpson stylus availables in the assistant05:41
stdinksivaji: the bot was mocking you :p05:41
Jucatostdin: he mocked the bot back :)05:41
shankyksivaji: thanks05:41
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BluesKajironfroggy, there are other requirements besides ranges but choosing a medium range should get you back to X05:42
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jm87hi05:42
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ksivajistdin leave it ,it is just a machine05:42
stdinxp_killer: there is no driver "for your graphics card" there is only one linux driver05:42
xp_killerstdin: how do i know what drivers kubuntu came with for ati?05:42
ksivajishanky thanks for what05:42
shankyksivaji: for pointing me to #ubuntu+105:43
stdinxp_killer: it comes with the free version, you have to choose to install the non-free one05:43
xp_killerstdin: therss no drivers?so why linux tell me i have an ati?05:43
ksivajishanky i was searching for gusty release date05:43
shaffydoes anyone know a quick command to uninstall the gnome/ubuntu desktop?  (i'm running kubuntu now on a previous ubuntu laptop)05:43
jm87how i use azerus05:43
jm87to download file05:44
ironfroggyi cant find any settings that get me over 800x60005:44
xp_killerstdin: since i install linux with my ati in the pc it change and i can finaly use beryl05:44
stdinxp_killer: there is only one binary driver for ALL ati05:44
Jucatoshaffy: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde05:44
ksivajistdin it seems linux doent have driver for many hardware05:44
stdinxp_killer: the version in feisty is 7.1.0-8.34.805:44
xp_killerstdin: just one?and that one is good for all?05:44
shaffyJucato:  thanks bro.  much appreciated.05:44
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stdinxp_killer: no, but there is only one05:45
stdinxp_killer: ATI control it and sometimes remove support for some cards05:45
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xp_killerstdin: well on this web site https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-796aa4d6d0477c8ed722acef1878cc5626855ae3-2 they tell me how to install the driver for my card witch i want to do05:46
freepenguinhello men05:46
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stdinxp_killer: follow _this_ one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-d8c6fd05bce340dfc3ad483abf0e18997868540b05:46
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xp_killerstdin: fglrx is allready install05:48
xp_killerstdin: by default05:48
stdinxp_killer: no05:49
stdinxp_killer: it's not05:49
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xp_killerstdin: no?so how do i check to see if it's is or not?05:49
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vist_killerheheh05:49
sven_oostenbrinkI can not save anything in Open office.. I have a fresh kubuntu 7.04 install. Whenever I try save as, the file window that shows, tries to load the contents of /home/user, but it stays at 0%.. I can select sub directories there though, but save does NOT work05:49
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stdinxp_killer: it will use the free "ati" driver by default, you have to install fglrx and enable it05:50
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yurimxpxmandoes the lpr command support ODT files?05:50
radius!gutsy channel05:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gutsy channel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:51
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radiuswhat's the channel for gutsy questions again05:51
PhinnForthow do I get java support in firefox?05:51
stdin!gutsy05:51
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+105:51
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stdin!java | PhinnFort05:51
ubotuPhinnFort: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.05:51
radiusthanks05:51
PhinnFortstdin: I've looked at it, and there's no sun-java6-plugin for amd6405:51
Lustbladerhow to mount windows fat32 drives in kubuntu live cd????05:52
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PhinnFortjava seems to work in konqueror (which uses it's own pluginthingy), but all applets break05:52
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Jucato!flash6405:52
ubotuYou can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava05:52
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stdinPhinnFort: on that page there are instructions for amd6405:52
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PhinnFortstdin: ah, thanks, didn't scroll far down enough:P05:52
MacZtttlkworkHi05:53
PhinnFortthanks05:53
MacZtttlkworkanybody here using the ATI open source Xorg's driver? "radeon"05:53
Lustbladerhow to mount windows fat32 drives in kubuntu live cd????05:53
PhinnFortmeh, so much hassle just to use my bank05:53
SlimeyPete!fat3205:53
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse05:53
MacZtttlkwork!radeon05:54
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:54
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xp_killerstdin: ok i run sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic restricted-manager what do i do next?becaus the tuto tell me to go in System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers witch i dont see05:55
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stdinxp_killer: you're supposed to follow the edgy instructions, it says "Note: If you use Kubuntu then follow the instructions for 6.10 (Edgy)--"05:56
Lustbladeri want to mount them in the live cd05:56
PhinnFortI just had a fun experience... with java in ie in wine05:56
PhinnFortmy screen went black05:56
xp_killerstdin: arf it install symnatic05:57
xp_killer:(05:57
soulrider!sound05:57
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP305:57
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BluesKajPhinnFort, no BSOD ? :)05:57
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PhinnFortBluesKaj: well, I suspect it's the intel graphics driver that doesn't like something wine does with java05:58
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PhinnFortbut at least I got in05:58
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xp_killerstdin: how do i check if fglrx is not disabled?05:59
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BluesKajPhinnFort, I haven't tried that yet IE in Wine , sounds interesting :)05:59
PhinnFortBluesKaj: 32-bit?05:59
stdinxp_killer: look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and make sure it has a line with: Deiver "fglrx"06:00
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PhinnFortor how do you do java?06:00
BluesKajI don't actively do java06:01
freepenguinGuardate dove  finita l'istruzione italiana: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTym-NfHR_w06:01
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slintcan someone help me out with my xserver?06:02
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xp_killerstdin: i did ctrl+f for fglrx theres no line with fglrx06:03
slinti got it working, but everytime i reboot i have to reconfig06:03
slintsomeone please help me out with this06:03
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stdinxp_killer: did you follow all the instructions ?06:03
stdinxp_killer: did you install fglrx-control and run "sudo depmod -a" then "sudo aticonfig --initial" and "sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv" ?06:04
slintstdin everytime i restart i have to use those commands or i get a black screen06:04
slintany ideas as to why?06:04
xp_killerstdin: no :p06:04
stdinslint: no, not really. I don't use ATI so I've never had to use those commands. have you tried asking in #ubuntu-effects ? they know more about the drivers than I do06:05
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slintstdin thanks06:07
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ederi need to know how to uninstall Nvidia Drivers06:09
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IppatsuManXYZeder: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg - this won't delete the nvidia's drivers, but X won't use them anymore06:10
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ederOk IppatsuManXYZ let me try06:11
edersee ya in a minute06:11
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xp_killerstdin: i dont have a section  "Extensions" in xorg06:15
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stdinxp_killer: you can add it06:16
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xp_killerstdin: just like that?anywhere?06:17
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stdinxp_killer: like it says, at the bottom06:17
xp_killer:p06:17
rediz_cant cd /home/kfreeflight06:17
rediz_any ideas06:18
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rediz_in terminal cant change directory past home06:18
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rediz_says no file or folder when it  is there06:19
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rediz_its doing my head in06:19
rediz_anyone help plz(newbie)06:20
pagrediz_, it's usually /home/YourUserName/kfreeflight or something like that06:20
rediz_yeah btryed that but wont06:20
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ubuntuhi06:20
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ubuntuI am new06:21
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pagrediz_, tried " cd && ls " already?06:21
pag!hi | ubuntu06:21
ubotuubuntu: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!06:21
ederHi to everyone06:21
ubuntucould you tell me is there any wifi on Munich airport ?06:21
pagHello eder :)06:22
eder:D06:22
ederlook i have a problem06:22
ederi have an Nvidia FX 5200 and i cant configure it06:22
rediz_cant  cd /rediz(says no)06:22
edercan you help me pag?06:22
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JuJuBee_I have a usb->db9 converter so I can use minicom to console to a router.  When configuring minicom, what /dev do I use for it?06:22
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pagrediz_, cd /home/rediz  or simply cd ~06:22
Stilohow can i make a screenshot of my compiz fusion cube06:23
Stilo?06:23
pag!nv | eder06:23
rediz_pag help plz06:23
ubotueder: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:23
shaffyhelp anyone?  i just uninstalled ubuntu on my system which already had kubuntu on it.  my kubuntu has been acting a little strange now.  i'm wondering if there is a command i can run to see whether or not all necessary kubuntu components are installed.06:23
xp_killerstdin: after add the section do i have to press ctrl+alt+backspace?06:23
ederlet em see ubotu06:23
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ubuntualso looking for usb linux ?06:23
xp_killerstdin: i dont understan the part after adding the section06:23
ubuntuanyone knows ?06:23
stdinxp_killer: logout and choose "Restart the X server" from KDM06:23
ubunturos!DSL06:23
ubotuSetting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE06:23
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ubunturosubuntu: you can have a look at MCNLive or Damn Small Linux06:24
Stilohelp plz :)06:24
ubuntuthx06:24
ubunturosubuntu: have a look at distrowatch.com for details of these06:24
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pagStilo, "Print screen" -button should work... scrot will work too, but it's little harder to use06:25
stdinyou can get KSnapshot to delay the screen print, that's probably easiest06:26
Stiloonly press Print?06:26
ederim trying with Envy06:26
pag!envy | eder06:26
ubotueder: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!06:27
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rediz_pag got into dir kflight but when i konsole make install it wont06:27
ederok ubotu, let me try the official driver06:28
pagrediz_, " ./configure && make && sudo make install "06:28
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ubuntumcnlive nice06:29
ubuntubut how to install on flashdisk on windows xp sp2 ?06:29
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shaffycan anyone tell me how i find out what version of kde i am running?06:30
pagshaffy, probably not the best way, but open konsole and type " konsole --version "06:31
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stdinshaffy: or just go to Help > About KDE in any kde app06:31
vist_killerkonsole -v06:31
shaffythanks.  much appreciated guys06:32
ederubotu im downloading 1.0-9755 driver06:33
stdin!bot | eder06:33
ubotueder: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots06:33
soulrider!sound06:33
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP306:33
JuJuBee_I just finished installing a fresh copy of kubuntu on 14 computer in my lab. I used the dpk --get-selections > my_packages trick to get all the computers to have all the packages as my model computer.  For some reason, some of the computers do not have all the same packages available like netbeans for example.  Why is that? and how do I correct it?06:33
JuJuBee_I tried to Fetch Updates.06:33
ederwell im trying 1.0-9755 driver06:33
pageder, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx06:33
ederwho can tell me if is allright?06:34
stdinJuJuBee_: did you make sure they all have the same repositories set?06:34
rediz_pag wot does && mean06:34
pageder, (or just use Adept)06:34
ederlet me try pag06:34
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JuJuBee_I burned 14 copies of the exact same image of kubuntu06:34
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JuJuBee_I guessed that they would be the same.06:34
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pagrediz_, "and" Bash recognises that syntax. so ie. "do something && after that do another"06:35
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pag"another thing" I mean :)06:35
stdinJuJuBee_: did you did "sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade" yes?06:36
JuJuBee_Yes.06:36
stdinJuJuBee_: well, they should all have the same things on them then, just check the sources.list anyway, to make sure then all have universe/multiverse06:36
rediz_got ya ;-)06:37
rediz_still cant get it going06:37
JuJuBee_I'll give it a try.  Thanks stdin.06:37
pagrediz_, pastebin ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org ) the output of ./configure06:38
ederK, see ya in a minute06:38
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JuJuBee_stdin : the sources.list is the same on both computers.  One has netbeans to install the other does not.06:40
sven_oostenbrinkI can not save anything in Open office.. I have a fresh kubuntu 7.04 install. Whenever I try save as, the file window that shows, tries to load the contents of /home/user, but it stays at 0%.. I can select sub directories there though, but save does NOT work06:41
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stdinJuJuBee_: you could try "sudo dselect install"06:42
JuJuBee_Yep, brb06:43
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JuJuBee_On which computer the one that was good or bad?06:43
rediz_pag pasteed output ./configure06:44
pagrediz_, you could also give the link to the paste, it makes things far more easier ;)06:45
rediz_too newbie not shaw wot mean06:45
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rediz_wot wwas the link06:46
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pagrediz_, after you pressed "Paste" pastebin redirected you to a new page, with adress like paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2354 (or something like that)06:46
rediz_then what?06:47
npurcifulWhere would i make a complaint about the ubufox firefox extension that is install by default?06:47
rediz_does it do06:47
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jhutchins Or we could all just try to guess where your paste went, because it's so very important to us.06:47
pagrediz_, paste that adress here, so we can find your paste06:47
BluesKajsven_oostenbrink, it sounds like a permissions problem. Perhaps the file you're trying to save to is protected ?06:47
JuJuBee_stdin : asking me if I want to erase any previously .deb files?06:47
stdinJuJuBee_: you can say no I guess06:48
rediz_checking build system type... Invalid configuration `i686-pc-linux-oldld': machine `i686-pc-linux' not recognized06:48
rediz_configure: error: /bin/sh admin/config.sub i686-pc-linux-oldld failed06:48
rediz_that come up wheni ./configure06:48
rediz_arrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggg06:49
npurcifulwhat is the gusty dev room06:49
pagrediz_, hmm.. I have no idea what that means.. maybe someone else knows?06:49
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stdin!gutsy | npurciful06:50
ubotunpurciful: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+106:50
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rediz_linux is hard. but i like it06:50
ederwell pag, im back06:50
rediz_i'm too nebie to understand06:50
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rediz_*newbie06:50
pageder, did it work?06:50
edernop T_T06:50
ederi used the lastest nvidia Driver06:51
BluesKajstdin, has the Gutsy release date been released yet ? :)06:51
ederwich suppose to support my Nvidia06:51
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ederand still nothing06:51
npurcifulthanks06:51
stdinBluesKaj: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule :)06:51
ederpag, what do you think about automatix?06:51
pageder, it just did nothing or the X (graphical mode) didn't start?06:51
ederthe X didnt start06:52
pag!automatix | eder06:52
stdin!automatix | stdin thinks this about automatix06:52
ubotueder: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)06:52
BluesKajstdin, cool :)06:52
ubotustdin thinks this about automatix: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)06:52
ederi have to restart it06:52
rediz_thanks for help pag. i'm getting there slowly but surley06:53
ederwhat i do now pag?06:53
arashHi guys, I have had this problem for a long while, I'm wondering if I can change which sound output sould be active? for example that Headphones should be priored to loudspeakers in case of being plugges n, or vice verse. Somone gave me help in this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3353582#post3353582 , but I didnt understand what the poster meant :p06:53
JuJuBee_stdin : now what?06:53
JuJuBee_after answering no to erasing .deb files, it quit.06:54
pageder, my suggest would be "instll the drivers from the apt and enable them manually in xorg.conf" but it's easier said than done :)06:54
stdinJuJuBee_: that should read the selections from 'dpkg --set-selections" and install the packages, if it quit it thinks it's done06:54
edercan you explain me please pag?06:54
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pageder, sure. " sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx && kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf "06:55
ederpag what mean &&?06:56
pageder, "and"06:56
ederi see06:56
gnomefreakif first doesnt fail06:56
pageder, you can either split that command or just copy-paste it as-is06:56
gnomefreak;; == run anyway iirc06:56
JuJuBee_stdin : what is the command to update the db from cli?06:56
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edercan make it without close the X?06:56
paggnomefreak, thanks :)06:56
gnomefreakyw06:56
stdinJuJuBee_: you mean "sudo apt-get update" ?06:56
JuJuBee_Thanks.06:57
pageder, yup.06:57
ederThanks pag, let me try06:57
pageder, actually; you shouldn't close X, since kate is graphical app06:57
shaffyis there an application in kubuntu that i can use to check my sources.list and keys?06:57
JuJuBee_Still no netbeans available.06:57
ederpag, and in the xorg.conf, what i do?06:57
pagshaffy, Adept Manager has that function iirc06:58
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shaffythanks pag.  i'm gonna check it out now06:58
pageder, backup it first (save as)06:58
ederK06:58
JuJuBee_stdin : netbeans still not avail for install.06:58
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edernow what?06:58
pageder, then re-open it ( kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf )06:59
stdinJuJuBee_: are they on feisty?06:59
pageder, and find the line " Driver "nv" "06:59
JuJuBee_YEs06:59
rediz_help please cant login as root06:59
rediz_how do i login as root06:59
pageder, there you should change "nv" to "nvidia"06:59
stdinJuJuBee_: are you trying to install "netbeans" or "netbeans5.5" ?06:59
pag!rootsudo | rediz_06:59
uboturediz_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.07:00
ederk, pag let me try07:00
JuJuBee_neither, apt-cache search netbeans07:00
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stdin!root | rediz_07:00
uboturediz_: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo07:00
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JuJuBee_tried looking in adept as well and not there.07:00
stdinJuJuBee_: are they all x86 or are some amd64?07:00
ederdone pag, now what?07:01
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pageder, now the fun part - restart X and hope it worked (and if it didn't you should recover the backup)07:01
JuJuBee_x8607:01
ederK, pag, let me try07:01
stdinJuJuBee_: make sure they all have multiverse, it's in there07:02
paggenii, sudo -i  does pretty much the same thing, doesn't it? :)07:02
stdin!info netbeans5.507:02
ubotunetbeans5.5: NetBeans IDE for development of applications in Java. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 5.5-0.59 (feisty), package size 33 kB, installed size 172 kB07:02
JuJuBee_Yes, it is in there.  I compared the lists from one that did work and one that did not.  Both Identical.07:02
geniipag: I'm not sure if there are any subtle differences or not. Perhaps they are equivelent07:02
shaffydoes anyone know if the build-essentials package works in kubuntu, as well as ubuntu?07:04
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stdinshaffy: the only difference between ubuntu and kubuntu is the GUI07:06
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shaffystdin:  okay with that said, then i am having a problem.  i can't seem to install build-essentials.  i've looked in adept manager and i've tried aptitude07:07
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stdinshaffy: helps if you tell me what happened when you tried, and what's not working07:07
pag!info build-essential | shaffy07:07
ubotushaffy: build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3 (feisty), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB07:07
ScorpKinghi all! how can i print file.pdf to a smb printer from cli?07:07
devianceI accidentaly clicked cut on my hard drive desktop Icon, how can I uncut it?07:07
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stdindeviance: paste it again or just copy something else, it doesn't move until you paste it07:08
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ederim back pag07:08
devianceOkay, :P07:08
ederand didn work07:08
ederthe X didnt start again07:08
ederjust a black screen07:09
pageder, any error messeges?07:09
edernop07:09
ederjust didnt start07:09
pageder, did you try to log to a console and type 'startx'?07:09
ederyeah07:09
ederi start it07:09
ederstop it07:09
ederand start it again07:09
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jhutchinseder: If you didn't get error messages in the console, you didn't start it.07:10
pageder, and it didn't work and gave no errors at all? :O07:10
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ederOk pag, let me try again all the process07:10
soulrider!vmware07:10
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers07:10
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ugasoulrider: it'd have been nicer if workstation packs existed too. gentoo provides them07:11
ugayou need a license, of course, but it's always nice that it becomes easy to installe07:11
uga*install07:11
arashHi guys, I have had this problem for a long while, I'm wondering if I can change which sound output sould be active? for example that Headphones should be prior to loudspeakers in case of being plugged in, or vice verse. Someone gave me help in this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3353582#post3353582 , but I didnt understand what the poster meant :p07:12
rediz_it worked cheers. now i can copy file into file system. cheers :-)07:12
JuJuBee_stdin : when I launch adept on each computer, one says there sare 20813 available packages and the other is 21392 available.07:12
JuJuBee_*are07:12
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jhutchinsarash: Usually when plugging in the headphones overrides the speaker(s) it's because of a physical switch incorporated in the headphone jack.  Not a software option.07:12
jhutchinsarash: How is your software supposed to know if you have headphones plugged in?07:13
stdinJuJuBee_: looks like they have different repositories then07:13
Dr_Willisjhutchins on my vista box - some how it knows that. :)07:13
Dr_Williswell it pops up and asks "what did you just plug in' :)07:13
jhutchinsDr_Willis: Standard phone jack, or usb?07:14
Dr_WillisSoftware programable in/outputs i guess.07:14
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ubuntustdin: after restartin x server linux never reboot again xp killer07:14
Dr_Willisit just says 'headphone' on the front of the case.   Not USB.07:14
jhutchinsHas some kind of detection in the hardware then.07:14
Dr_Willisyea onboard sound  -  realtek somthing or another.  I dont have room for a better sound card.07:15
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stdinubuntu: I don't know, I don't use ati07:15
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ederpag, im back07:15
edernow i startx07:15
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ederand show errors07:15
arashjhutchins: uhu, Vista seem to have arranged the the sound output priored in a different way that is more favorable to me. The thing is, I have some stupid Keyboard set that includes mouse and a extremely poor loudspeaker that is priored (which really is bad). So my favorite sound outputs aint making the sound07:16
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ubuntustdin:ok how do i restor xorg from backup07:16
pageder, and what did the errors say? :)07:16
ubuntustdin: using cd live07:16
edercouldnt find screens07:16
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ederdo you remember where is the error log?07:17
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tucoHello all07:17
pageder, somewhere under /var/log/07:17
pag!hi | tuco07:17
ubotutuco: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!07:17
ederhere is it pag07:17
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tucoI want to change the theme in kdm manager, I can't see how. Have kdm installed though07:18
JuJuBee_stdin : Repo's are exactly same.  I copied and pasted htem to be safe and still there is a diff in number of available packages.07:18
JuJuBee_and no netbeans to boot07:18
ubuntudid stdin runaway?07:18
stdinubuntu: you don't need a live cd, start in recovery mode and "mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf" (if "xorg.conf.backup" is the backup)07:18
arashjhutchins: the bad loudspeaker seem to be connected to USB, you might think I just can plug it out, but mouse and keyboard is connected to that, sp they will be disbaled then ( my dad bought it :p ) ...07:19
stdinJuJuBee_: unless they are different versions or different architectures that shouldn't happen07:19
jhutchinsarash: Blacklist the modules for it.07:19
ubuntustdin: recover mode dont work thats why im in cd live07:19
arashjhutchins: seems interesting, How do I do that?07:19
rediz_cant get amarok to play mp3. help pls07:19
pag!mp3 | rediz_07:19
uboturediz_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:19
JuJuBee_I agree, but it is happening.  They are identical computers dell optiplex gx62007:19
stdinubuntu: then it's not an X issue07:19
jhutchinsarash: determine which modules it uses and put them in the module blacklist file.07:20
tucoIf somebody can tell me how I can change a theme in KDM please do so, this have been driving me crazy for days.07:20
jhutchins!blacklist | arash07:20
ubotuarash: To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add  blacklist <modulename>  to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type  sudo update-initramfs -u 07:20
pagtuco, install " kdemtheme "07:20
pagkdmtheme that is07:20
stdinJuJuBee_: you copied the sources.list and ran "sudo apt-get update" then it should work. there is no reason I know of that would stop it07:20
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tucoI have it Pag07:20
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pagtuco, kdesu kdmtheme  should work then07:21
sven_oostenbrinkHi there, I just installed kubuntu.. open office and krusader both have more or less the same problem: I can navigate, but trying to write or copy a file is impossible..07:21
edersome place larger that shortText.com?07:21
sven_oostenbrinkin open office, the directory box can give directory hints, but the file lister stays empty.. pressing OK to save  does nothign07:22
sven_oostenbrinkkrusader can navigate,  but move and copy do nothign07:22
pagtuco, or maybe not.. sorry; kdesu kcontrol  and there find it under Admin.07:22
JuJuBee_stdin : "some index files failed to download.  they have been ingnore or old ones used instead".  Think we might be on to something.07:22
pag!pastebin | eder07:23
ubotueder: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)07:23
sven_oostenbrinkDoes anybody know what could be the cause and / or solution ot this??07:23
kkathmansven_oostenbrink:  krusader works fine for me07:23
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sven_oostenbrinkkkathman, it normally also does for me, but now it does not.. that is the problem..07:23
kkathmanbut I typically dont use it07:23
stdinJuJuBee_: post the whole output of sudo apt-get update to pastebin07:23
Parkerw207heya everyone i need help with installing kubuntu on my pc07:23
sven_oostenbrinkBy the way, Im using a dell latitute D620, if it makess a difference07:23
kkathmanI use Konqeror just cuz it allows me to do so much more07:23
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kkathmansven_oostenbrink:  I'd try Konq and see if maybe you dont have those same things there07:24
sven_oostenbrinkwell, I dnt really need krusader.. so back to open office: I can not save any document!! Why not??07:24
JuJuBee_K, brb07:24
kkathmanif you dont, then reboot07:24
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kkathmanotherwise, maybe restart krusader or  reboot anyways :)07:24
kkathmanIm not as familiar with the way krusder actually works07:24
Parkerw207i put the disk i got into the drive and loaded it up , it went through a check list saying everything was ok , abstraction layer ok , user setup ok , then it gave me a message saying that kubuntu give no warranty , then it went back to a loading screen and just sat there07:25
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Parkerw207i managed to get into.. what i think is the command line interface , but i am a linux newbie and done know how to go from there07:25
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sven_oostenbrinkokay, even konqueror has this problem: Its not showing any file in the listers.. what could cause this??07:25
kkathmanParkerw207:  was this with the live CD or the install cd?07:25
soulrider!virtualbox07:25
ubotuVirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox07:25
Parkerw207live cd07:25
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kkathmansven_oostenbrink: hit ctrl-esc and look to see if the dcop server is running07:26
tuco_anybody knows how to install a theme in KDM please?07:26
sven_oostenbrinkkkathman, I have 2 dcopserver processes running07:26
Parkerw207i am on my laptop at the moment so that i can get help and not have to keep switching lol07:26
ederpag, can you check this? http://pastebin.com/d11cb816a07:26
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kkathmantuco_:  save to a directory, then open your system settings and load the theme under appearances& themes07:27
sven_oostenbrinkkkathman, looks like one is root, the other is sven (me)07:27
kkathmansven_oostenbrink:  yah, ok, have you tried rebooting yet to see if it goes away?07:27
tuco_I did KK but it is greyed out07:27
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arashjhutchkins, Im wondering, Is there a list of modules that are connected or something, how can I find out what name a module has?07:27
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Parkerw207anyone?07:27
kkathmantuco_:  what is greyed out?07:27
tuco_The option to load the theme07:28
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JuJuBee_stdin : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3743907:28
kkathmantuco_:  kcontrol - Appearance & Theme - Theme Manager, then Install New Theme07:28
arashparkerw207 , hmm, you have not come to the desktop interface yet?07:28
Parkerw207no07:29
Parkerw207it just went back to the annoying loading screen and sat there07:29
pageder, I'm not that good with log-files - didn't see anything wrong there..07:29
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Parkerw207so i started looking for a way to get to the command line interface and then i found it07:29
Parkerw207but i dont know where to go from here07:29
stdinJuJuBee_: remove any files in /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/: "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/*" then try again07:29
edercouldnt find screens pag07:29
ederwhat i do now pag?07:30
arashparkerw207, hmm, you have a 32bit CD? I remember similiar problems when puting in a 64 bit CD which I thought my comp could handle (you write from command line?)07:30
tuco_KK I have it in front of me07:30
kkathmantuco_:  ok good07:30
Parkerw207no its the 32 bit one , and i dont knwo any commands for linux i just somehow managed to get the command line up lol07:30
tuco_I did Kcontrol,have appearance and themes and sub-categories, but don't know where I can't install the kdm from07:31
ederlet me try something07:31
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Parkerw207ubuntu@ubuntu :$ is was i get now lol07:31
kkathmantuco_:  go to Theme Manager07:31
pageder, I'm pretty much out of ideas... you could try to enable drivers and then reconfigure your xserver, but I'm not sure if it will help07:31
arashparkerw207 , how you conect to irc without linux experience :p ?07:31
tuco_OK yes. Just remember I am talking about the Log in theme huh!07:31
Parkerw207lol i know how to use irc , just... i dont have much experience with kubuntu not installing , i'm used to it working staight away lol07:32
kkathmantuco_:  login theme?? You mean the KDE splash or the Boot Splash?07:32
Parkerw207so anyone know a command i can type to get me into the live cd , or just to install kubuntu at any rate?07:32
tuco_Well the splash where you log in to the pc with usernam and password.07:32
tuco_username sorry.07:32
Dr_WillisParkerw207 you may want to clarify a bit. Not sure what you are doing exactly.07:33
JuJuBee_stdin : that did the trick.  THanks heaps :)07:33
arashparkerw207 heh, Im no expert, a expert could probably give better advice, but have you tested defection on CD?07:33
kkathmantuco_:  ahh ok well that's not the "theme"07:33
stdinJuJuBee_: no problem :)07:33
Parkerw207yes i checked the disk to make sure it was ok , i did  a memory test as well07:33
kkathmanthats just a splash screen07:33
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JuJuBee_Now is there a way to install any packages (easily) from the previous selection without installing one at a time?07:34
tuco_Ah!07:34
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tuco_I mean there are loads in Kde-look.org07:34
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tuco_I download them from there but can't install them07:34
Parkerw207i basically put the cd in , it went through its normal process of checking drivers etc , gave the message saying that kubuntu doesnt give a warranty , then it went back to the loading screen and just sat there doing nothing for ages , i then tried combinations of buttons to see if i could get to the command line interface whihc is what i have infront of me now07:34
rediz_how do i check disk space?07:35
Dr_Willisdf -h   shows free disk space07:35
Parkerw207it says , Ubuntu@Ubuntu: $07:35
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JuJuBee_stdin : is there a way to install anything that did not install from the dpkg trick?07:36
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Parkerw207so i dont know where to go from here07:36
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stdinJuJuBee_: try the process again, with sudo dpkg --set-selections < selections && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade07:37
Dr_WillisParkerw207 sounds like the cd is having some iossues.. this is a live cd? not an alternative install cd eh? What video card do you have?07:37
xp_killerstdin: hoz do i get out of the konsole that keep showing when i try to go back on linux07:37
JuJuBee_stdin: I was a fraid that would try ti install everything all over again.07:37
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xp_killerstdin: the backup file dont exist07:38
arashHow do I see all modules that are avaible to disable? !module seems just to tell me how to disable certain modules, but how can I see which ones exists?07:38
xp_killeri; running cd live07:38
xp_killerstdin: if i wipe out the xorg file will it work?07:39
stdinxp_killer: there should be one, it may be called something else like xorg.conf.20070914163259 (like that, but probably not exactly)07:39
Parkerw207dr_willis , this is a live cd07:39
arunum, do i need any special php extensions installed to view auto-generated captcha images? i'm testing an application on a local lamp server07:39
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Dr_WillisParkerw207 what video card? thats often a stumbling point for the live cd's07:41
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Parkerw207dr_willis : its a HIS X800XL IceQ II Turbo 256MB PCIe07:41
Dr_WillisThat the Heck is that.. :) who makes it? ATI?07:41
Parkerw207Powered by ATI Radeon X800 XL07:41
Dr_WillisHmm.. its possible its trying to use the 'ati' driver. when it needs the 'vesa' driver for a better default.07:42
Dr_Williscould try editing the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and see what Driver its using.07:42
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Dr_WillisHave had do some fighting with ati in the past sadly.07:42
Parkerw207hmm , so what can i do , i aint really interested in using the live part , i just simply want to instal it07:42
Dr_Willisthe live cd installer needs X.  OR you could go get the alternative isntall cd.07:43
Dr_Willisit dosent need X.07:43
shaffycan anyone help?  "sudo aptitude install build-essentials" yields "Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "build-essentials"07:43
Parkerw207grrr , so i am basicall buggered at the mo?07:43
Dr_WillisParkerw207 editign that file and rerun startx, would take all of.. 2 min. :)07:43
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Parkerw207how do i do that from command line?07:43
pagshaffy, isn't it " sudo aptitude install build-essential "?07:44
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Dr_Willis grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:44
Dr_Willisto see what driver its using.,07:44
shaffypag:  thanks.  ^-^07:44
Dr_WillisParkerw207 learning how to do it.. will take more then 2 min. :) but not much more07:44
Parkerw207ok just waiting for it to work lol07:44
Parkerw207its not doing nothing07:44
Dr_Willishmm.. You may be having even more serious issues then.07:45
Dr_Willisshould be instantous.07:45
Dr_Willisor ya did a typo07:45
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Parkerw207ok07:45
Dr_WillisCASE is imporntant07:45
Parkerw207one sec07:45
xp_killerstdin: i had past my xorg file on my desktop..i mounted the ext3 to get to the descktop but its lock.how do i get there?07:45
Parkerw207oooh right07:45
Dr_WillisLinux FUNDAmentals07:45
xp_killerstdin: im on cd live07:46
rediz_lkh07:46
stdinxp_killer: use sudo as normal07:46
Parkerw207is there anythign i can do before i click on install to stop this happening ?07:46
Dr_WillisParkerw207 after ya install. it MIGHT use the right drivers. Best would be to install the actual fglrx drivers after you install.07:46
Dr_Willisfor legal reasons the distro cant incliude them or do it automaticially07:46
Parkerw207ahh i see07:47
Dr_Willisof course with the newer cards. they break some of the old-functions/standards also07:47
Parkerw207well i am back to the screen asking whether i want to install07:47
Parkerw207start in safe graphics mode etc07:47
Parkerw207is there anything i could do now ?07:47
xp_killerstdin: o.O i dont know how to open a folder using sudo07:47
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Dr_WillisParkerw207 not sure what screen you mean. the live cd dosent ask if you want to isntall.. the isntaller icon is on the desktop07:48
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stdinxp_killer: how did you mount it?07:48
shaffycan anyone help?  a ./configure of superkaramba yields "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!"  any ideas?07:48
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Dr_Willisshaffy start installinght various X developer files.07:48
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Dr_Willisand a lot of other kde-developer files..07:48
xp_killerstdin: sys settings07:48
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stdin!xincludes | shaffy07:48
ubotushaffy: When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   xorg-dev07:49
Parkerw207ooh , it the screen saying , "Start or install" / " Start kubuntu in safe graphics mode" / "check cd for defects"/ "memory test"/ "Boot from first disk"/07:49
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shaffyubotu: thanks.  i will do that right now.07:49
shaffyDr_Willis: you mean, input "start installinght" ?07:49
stdinxp_killer: then you should be able to access it, use konsole anyway as you need to work as root07:49
ScorpKinghow can i find out which package has the smbmount command?07:49
Parkerw207ermm , i aint sure , its just what comes up straight away when you put the live cd in07:50
xp_killerstdin: sudo -i?07:50
stdinyep07:50
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ScorpKing!info smbmount07:51
ubotuPackage smbmount does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas07:51
Parkerw207maybe i should just switch over to the inbuilt graphics on my motherboard for the tme being07:51
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shaffyDr_Willis: nevermind.  i'm an idiot.07:51
Parkerw207if only i could remember how :P07:51
ScorpKing:(07:51
ederpag, at last07:51
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Parkerw207does anyone know how to do that lol?07:52
pageder, you got it working? :)07:52
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Dr_WillisParkerw207 remove the other card? or disable it in bios..07:53
Parkerw207yeah i am in the bios07:53
Dr_Willisor try editng the xorg.conf file .07:53
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drewcipher_ScorpKing:  not sure this is what you're after:     dpkg -l  | grep -i smbclient07:54
Parkerw207it says defualt display adapter is set to PCI-E , but doesnt say anything about onboardgraphics07:54
Parkerw207only other option is PCI07:54
shaffystdin: thanks for the info.  hopefully the compile will work now.07:54
ScorpKingdrewcipher_: yeah, i found it in smbfs. thanks anyway07:54
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stdinshaffy: what are you compiling ?07:54
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(Haplo/#kubuntu) then go to homepage.10:07
(spiroo/#kubuntu) thanks10:07
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(Haplo/#kubuntu) im still working on it tyhough.10:07
ugaarash: I don't know what the media control applet is, either ;)10:08
bigleonwhats going on fglrx??10:08
ugapossibly some alsa control applet10:08
=== xp_killer all those who are newbies to linux should make a backup for there souce.list,fstab and xorg.conf on a usb key you never know what can happen in the future :)
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arashuga: oh and btw, I also only can have 1 app playing sound at once normally, can this be related somehow?10:09
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bigleonhmm i have multi app's playing i'm not sure what ur prob is arash,  your using fiesty aren't you?10:10
arashbigleon:  yes , feisty is the 7.04 right?10:11
bigleonyup10:11
arashbigleon:  yea10:11
bigleoni'd go through and try and get away from generic drivers and find hardware specific drivers for your system10:11
ugaarash: that's due to using alsa directly10:11
ugarather than an interface like arts or similar10:12
xp_killernadrosima: yes?10:12
jon_can someone help me out with ndiswrapper?10:12
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arashuga:  uhu ,  what should I do then ?10:12
ugaarash: some applications just dont' allow other than using alsa, or oss directly. Some others like amarok allow selecting what audio interface you want to use in the settings10:12
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ugauh... I believe alsa could be patched to allow multiple acces, but not sure if ubuntu patches it that way10:13
xp_killer!ndiswrapper10:13
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs10:13
xp_killerjon_: ^^10:13
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hydrogenarash: the problem with playback10:13
hydrogenis that kubuntu uses arts10:13
hydrogenwhich is a horribly bitrotted piece of code that doesn't play nice with any of the modern features alsa has added10:14
arashhydrogen: eh? what's playback?10:14
hydrogenor anything audiolike10:14
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hydrogenso all apps have to output through arts10:14
hydrogenin order to play many at the same time10:14
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munkiGood evening10:15
hydrogenif kubuntu was really practical they would ditch arts and use dmix10:15
arashhydrogen: hmm, I remember Kaffeine couldnt start up while Amarok is running :-/10:15
ugahydrogen: heh, and then apps would need to support dmix? =)10:15
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hydrogenuga: no10:15
hydrogenuga: dmix is a transparent sound mixer on the alsa level10:15
ugaoh, so it's a generic alsa interface?10:15
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arashhydrogen: eh, doens't the guys make Kubuntu be really pro :) ?10:15
ugaahk10:15
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ugahydrogen: can't arts run over dmix?10:15
arashhydrogen:  can I install it (easily :p)?10:15
hydrogenarash: I'm sure there is some reason why they are still using arts10:16
hydrogenbut no clue why10:16
hydrogenand I havn't investigated enough on how to remove it10:16
nadrosimaopen with as *always open with xxx10:16
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ugahydrogen: if it's so generic, arts should be able to use dmix10:16
ugaand then kde apps would run throuhg arts and the rest directly through dmix10:16
hydrogenuga: I think arts is written in such a way that it just hogs all of the sound output10:16
ugauhm? strange10:17
hydrogenall I know is that arts is not a good thing10:17
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BluesKajthere are too many cooks in the sound system in alsa10:17
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ugahydrogen: well, the problem isn't exactly that it's not a good thing. It's a thing that was good a while ago and nobody has been able to maintain it for ages ;)10:17
ugaso it's being replaced10:17
hydrogenright10:17
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hydrogenits no longer a good thing10:17
hydrogenand hasn't been for at least two years10:17
hydrogenprobably more10:17
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hydrogenI forget when dmix became availible10:18
ugahydrogen: nobody has been able to put their hands on it10:18
ugalack of documentation, I believe10:18
hydrogenright10:18
hydrogenand its just archaic10:18
hydrogenphonon is much much nicer10:18
arashI tried do some strnage things in arts, I reboot to see what happens :p10:18
BluesKajI don't understand why kmix and alsa are separate apps , they should be integrated ...it's really quite confusing10:19
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ugahydrogen: heh, I hope so. So far I've not been able to play anything through it ;)10:19
arashBluesKaj , eh you probably know much more than I, but arnt it obvious one is Gnome another KDE?10:19
xp_killerspiroo: u are using kopete for msn right?do u know how to save your friend smiley?10:19
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hydrogenarash: no10:20
nadrosimahey xp_killer can u give me  any answer ?10:20
hydrogenalsa isn't knome10:20
hydrogenalsa is kernel-level10:20
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Doctor_Nicki hate oss soooooo much10:20
arashhydrogen: omg you said the k-word10:20
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hydrogenDoctor_Nick: you better clarify that :)10:21
Doctor_Nickopen source soundsystem10:21
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arashROFL10:21
Doctor_Nickor whatever10:21
Doctor_Nicktoo many acronyms to remember10:21
xp_killernadrosima: i'm a newbie im not a pro.what was the question i didnt understand it10:21
Doctor_Nickhey guys lets make this totally obnoxious for people with sound cards that only support software mixing10:21
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hydrogenwhich is why oss has been obsolete since 2.6.8 or so10:22
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Doctor_Nickhydrogen: tell that to people who port windows apps to linux10:23
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arashStill not working :( :( :( (not that I expected too :p )10:27
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dhqi have a mouse problem everything works well only its appearance is bad i mean i can see 3 mouse cursors together10:28
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arashdhq , isn't that something you have choosen to be?10:29
BluesKajarash, I've been on kubuntu for 18mos , never like dgnome and never really used it so i wouldn't know whether it was obvious or not that alsa is a gnome app10:29
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lnx_when i click on console for example near the mouse pointer  i get mini console icon same to all programs not just console , how i can cancel it ?10:29
arashBluesKaj: eh ok :),whatever10:29
BluesKajyeah whatever10:30
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dhqarash,well i choose a glass mouse but it looks so shabby and all i tried it with all mouse cursors all seem the same10:30
coreymon77BluesKaj: why does it matter if its a gnome app10:30
lanboyhi10:30
coreymon77BluesKaj: that makes no difference10:30
lanboycan someone help me10:30
coreymon77!hi10:30
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!10:30
coreymon77!ask | lanboy10:30
ubotulanboy: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)10:30
lanboyok cool10:30
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lanboyi'm trying to load real player into firefox10:31
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lanboybut i need to do a manual install10:31
lanboycant figure it out :/10:31
xp_killerBluesKaj: do u know what this mean "can u know  how make a alert window on Xp os"10:31
xp_killerwith linux?10:31
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BluesKajit dpesn't matter to me coreymon77 , i made a comment about the confusion created having 2 & 3 different audio applications controlling a sound card in one distro10:32
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kirkquick question: when setting a DiskLabel with GParted, which labeltype should i go with if im only using the hard drive as extra storage?10:32
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arashlnx_ you can change that... check out settings-center (I don tknow english name :p), click mouse and choose a different theme10:32
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coreymon77BluesKaj: oh10:33
BluesKajxp_killer, I don't understand ...alert window ?10:33
Dr_Willisxp_killer they refering to that samba message box feature perhaps?10:33
Dr_Williswinpopup or whatever its called10:33
xp_killernadrosima: nadrosima keep asking me that question in pv and i dont understand i told him im  a newbie10:34
lanboycan anyone help me get realplayer content working in firefox?10:34
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xp_killerBluesKaj: the he told me " on same  network  2 pc linux and xp -and write xp display '' please say me a cafee'' PP"10:34
coreymon77inst there a plugin?10:34
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kirkquick question: when setting a DiskLabel with GParted, which labeltype should i go with if im only using the hard drive as extra storage?10:34
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lanboynot an auto install plugin10:35
lanboysays i gotta do it manually10:35
Dr_Willisa Disk label is just its name.. i thought10:35
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lanboyi got a binary file from real10:35
arashlanboy, im not certain at all, but can you try install mplayer, It pops up and shows some videos for me sometimes (in firefox10:35
Dr_Willisi cant recall ever hearing of a 'labeltype'10:35
Dr_Willis!realplayer10:35
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:35
Dr_WillisI dont find many realplayer files these days on the web.10:36
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Doctor_Nicki wrote down all the stuff that automatix installs for media codecs, hold on10:36
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Dr_Willisbut i DO belive ive used the player plugin to play them befor.10:36
coreymon77Doctor_Nick: dot use automatix10:36
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coreymon77Doctor_Nick: dont*10:36
Doctor_Nicki dont10:36
Doctor_Nicki just install all the packages they install10:36
coreymon77Doctor_Nick: oh10:36
Dr_Willishe haxxors automatix. :)10:36
coreymon77Doctor_Nick: okay then10:36
cps1966! seamonkey10:37
lanboyok i'm trying mplayer10:37
ubotuSeamonkey, formerly known as "Mozilla Application Suite", is available at http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/ with install instructions for ubuntu at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18601110:37
kirklabeltype options are: msdos, amiga, bsd, mac, bdh, pc98, loop, sun, s390, gpt10:37
arashlanboy : are you new to linux :p ?10:38
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BluesKajxp_killer, try installing ntfs-3g and ntfs-config to read/write to the windows partition ...if that's what you want to do10:38
Dr_Williskirk somthing ive never seen used  befor i ghuess. :) dont set any10:38
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arashBluesKaj , he is watching cartoons :p!10:39
Doctor_Nickhttp://pastebin.com/m6f78d08810:39
xp_killerBluesKaj: not me it's nadrosima10:39
kirkby default it select msdos10:39
Doctor_Nickall of those are from the official repositories or the medibuntu repositories10:39
kirk!labeltype10:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about labeltype - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:39
Dr_Williskirk ive only set teh lable for ext3/2 partitions with the tune2fs tool.10:39
Doctor_Nickexcept for the divx package10:39
kirk!disklabel10:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about disklabel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:39
kirkit says10:40
Dr_Willisi cant recall ever needing that option or messing with it in gparted. :)10:40
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arashkirk, same for me (same as dr_willis)10:40
BluesKajwell, perhaps xp_killer you could express yoirself better if asked for advice in your native tongue in the channel that speaks your language10:40
Dr_WillisDisk label' is another word for 'partition table'. A partition table's main purpose is recording the location of partitions on a disk and boot-time management.10:40
kirkA disklabel is a piece of data stored at a well known place on the disk, tha indicatetes where each partition begins and how many sectors it occupies. You need a disklabel if you want to create partitions on this disk.10:40
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kirkBy default GParted creates an msdos disklabel.10:41
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Dr_Willishttp://www.gnu.org/software/parted/faq.shtml10:41
Dr_WillisWhat is a disk label?10:41
Dr_Willis    'Disk label' is another word for 'partition table'. A partition table's main purpose is recording the location of partitions on a disk and boot-time management.10:41
Dr_WillisSounds to me like we got some confusing terms.10:41
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kirki'll just go with their default10:42
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xp_killerBluesKaj: lol not my luaguage it was him that came in my pv and start speekin like that i didnt understand nothing10:42
coreymon77kirk: what do you want to know10:42
Dr_Willisthats not the same label as a filesystem label then. :)10:43
kirki just completely formatted a secondary hard drive10:43
kirktrying to get it setup where i can access it10:43
BluesKajxp_killer, I still think you'd do better in the french chat10:43
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coreymon77kirk: access it form waht10:43
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coreymon77kirk: only linux10:43
kirkkubuntu10:43
coreymon77?10:43
kirkyes10:43
coreymon77kirk: okay then10:43
xp_killerBluesKaj: lol10:43
Dr_Willissounds like they are refering to the  parttion layout info thats right behind the MBR. :)10:43
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coreymon77kirk: qtparted is a little easier to learn imo10:43
mrksbrdanyone ever attempt to get a USB Scanner to work under Ubuntu???10:44
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Dr_Willismrksbrd i plugged mine in... and it worked.. :)10:44
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coreymon77kirk: but, all you need to do is format is as anything other than ntfs10:44
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mrksbrdlol....luck \y u10:44
arashBluesKaj , doesn't those channels have like 1 message pear hour?10:44
coreymon77kirk: ext2/3 work best10:44
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mrksbrdI couldn't be that fortunate10:44
coreymon77arash: not necessarily10:44
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xp_killerBluesKaj: IM horible at writen french it's a very hard language10:44
coreymon77arash: depends the language10:44
BluesKajarash, I have no idea10:44
Dr_Willisthis was a HP all in one scaner/printer. I do think i had to install teh  hpoj service.10:45
kirkhmmm10:45
kirkits giving me an error saying "It was not possible to make a new partition table."10:45
mrksbrdin lsusb it shows it, but doesn't go any further than that10:45
Dr_Willisthis is why i use good old normal fdisk. :)10:45
mrksbrdi read every poss online document and still no luck10:46
xp_killerkirk: are u trying to mount a hdd?10:46
coreymon77xp_killer: no, format it10:46
kirkits already formatted10:46
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kirkStatus: available10:46
coreymon77kirk: what fs?10:46
Dr_Willisnow confused.10:46
xp_killerkirk: so what u trying to do then?10:46
kirkjust trying to set it up for use..10:47
Dr_WillisHeh heh.. fdisk (partition) then format, then mount.10:47
mrksbrdi hate to use ndiswrapper, won't even guarentee it to work!!10:47
Dr_Willisthe parted tools dont do the mounting part.10:47
rrbizsomeone know of a way to squeeze webpages to fit in smaller konqueror views?10:47
kirkStatus: empty10:47
rrbizthe way opera does so nicely10:47
coreymon77mrksbrd: why use ndis10:47
kirkLabel: table10:47
nadrosimaomg my desktop black i m forget work on beryl ehehe10:47
Dr_Willisrrbiz i noticed that on my  WII :)10:47
coreymon77mrksbrd: what card do you have10:47
mrksbrdi don't want to, but if that is my last resort...........10:47
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mrksbrdusb scanner10:48
rrbizDr_Willis: opera on ur WII?10:48
Doctor_Nickis compiz fusion even out yet10:48
kirki formatted it already killer10:48
coreymon77Dr_Willis: oh, ndis is not any good for that10:48
coreymon77isnt ndis only for network/wifi drivers10:48
coreymon77or am i mistaken10:48
coreymon77Dr_Willis: whoops, wrong person10:49
mrksbrdcorey i got my wifi to work again....have another thing i'm trying to get to work now!!10:49
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coreymon77mrksbrd: what card10:49
kirkdo i have to mount the hard drive before creating a new partition?10:49
coreymon77Dr_Willis: do you have irc on your wii10:49
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mrksbrdI'm trying to get my canoscan USB Scanner to work now10:49
coreymon77kirk: no, create the partition first10:49
coreymon77mrksbrd: scanner?10:49
kirkhmmm10:49
coreymon77mrksbrd: isnt that a printer function10:50
mrksbrdyes corey10:50
coreymon77?10:50
mrksbrddunno is it????????10:50
kirkits giving me an error saying "It was not possible to make a new partition table."10:50
coreymon77mrksbrd: ya, a scanner is something that takes physical pictures and puts them on your comuter10:50
coreymon77mrksbrd: it does the opposite of what a printer does10:50
mrksbrdok then do i try to set it up as a printer then?????????10:51
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coreymon77mrksbrd: i dont know10:51
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coreymon77mrksbrd: can you give me the manufacturers website10:51
mrksbrdlol....thats my problem....dunno!!!!!10:51
coreymon77mrksbrd: just to make sure that its the same type of scanner that im thinking of10:51
mrksbrdcannon.com10:51
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hydrogenuse xsane10:52
mrksbrdflatbed scanner to scan documents into computer10:52
hydrogenfor scanning10:52
hydrogenor kooka10:52
hydrogenkooka is a bit less mature10:52
hydrogenbut more kde10:52
coreymon77mrksbrd: ya10:52
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coreymon77mrksbrd: thats a scanner10:52
coreymon77mrksbrd: set it up like a printer10:52
mrksbrdhydro, will those progs recognize my scanner or is there additional setup needed??10:52
coreymon77mrksbrd: thats not wireless10:53
coreymon77mrksbrd: plug the scanner in10:53
coreymon77and set it u like a printer10:53
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coreymon77go into system settings10:53
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hydrogenerr10:54
coreymon77and go to the printers/faxes/scanners menu10:54
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coreymon77mrksbrd: and then set it up like you would a printer10:54
coreymon77mrksbrd: but choose scanner instead of printer10:54
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kirkthe problem is that it's not letting me create a partition10:55
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coreymon77kirk: try using qtparted10:55
kirki tried that and gparted both10:56
mrksbrdcorey.... that doesn't make any sense to me......scanners & printers are 2 different things10:56
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kirkpartition: unallocated   filesystem: unallocated10:57
mrksbrdi thought Kubuntu had a feature built into the kmenu just for scanners, but cannot find it!!10:58
xp_killermrksbrd: scanner10:59
xp_killer???10:59
xp_killermrksbrd: to scan what?10:59
mrksbrdpaper documents into puter10:59
hydrogeninstall xsane10:59
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hydrogenand run it10:59
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hydrogenit might even autodetect for you10:59
hydrogenI think it needs to run as r00t though10:59
mrksbrdhydro....me???10:59
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hydrogenno11:00
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aJaxshas anyone had any problems starting kdm with the new xorg 7.0.3 ?11:01
kirkarggg this doesnt make sense11:02
kirkwhats a reason that it wouldnt let me create a new partition11:02
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aJaxskirk, whats the error11:03
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kirkits giving me an error saying "It was not possible to make a new partition table."11:04
kirkalso a similiar error with gparted saying it cant create a new partition11:04
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aJaxskirk, primary or logical ? also are you trying to partition on your primary or secondary ide ?11:05
kirksecondary11:05
Doctor_Nick:E11:05
Doctor_Nick"root"11:06
kirki dont know what primary or logical means11:06
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kirkim running kubuntu, and wanting to add this internal hd for storage11:06
aJaxsif your planning on using < 4 Partitions dw bout it. fdisk /dev/hdb should let you formatt it11:07
kirki formatted it with qtparted11:07
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aJaxsso it worked...or still same error ?11:08
kirki just want 1 partition, using the entire disk as storage11:08
kirkUnable to open /dev/hdb11:08
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aJaxsyour not using a Sata drive ? right11:09
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beryl-helpersata11:09
kirki believe it is11:10
aJaxsohk then the drive you want to format is /dev/sda1 i believe11:10
coreymon77mrksbrd: any luck?11:11
kirkits already been formatted...11:11
kirkits completely blank11:11
kirkand no partitions11:11
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kirkbut isnt letting me create a partition11:11
kirkkirk@kubuntu:~$ mount /dev/hdb11:12
kirkmount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb,11:12
kirk       missing codepage or other error11:12
kirk       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try11:12
kirk       dmesg | tail  or so11:12
hydrogenerr11:13
hydrogenthats not how you create a partition11:13
kirkim brand new to linux and kubuntu btw11:13
kirki know.. ive tried to create the partitions with gparted and qtparted and get errors11:13
mrksbrdcorey....nope!!!11:13
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aJaxslol. i havent used gparted or qtparted so i can help you. but run fdisk "/dev/sda1" as root11:14
aJaxscant*11:14
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mrksbrdkirk, keep an eye out for genii in the room he is a genius w/that kinda stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!!11:15
nadrosimago use fdisk and defined ur sector  data manualy11:15
kirkUnable to open /dev/sda111:15
nadrosimafirst moun them11:16
kirkit isnt letting me mount11:16
ugakirk: you need permissions to do so... try sudo11:16
nadrosimathis is ntfs system11:16
nadrosimacant acces with linux11:16
ugauh?11:16
ugayou can11:16
deviancestdin is usualy pretty good too11:16
kirkkirk@kubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/hdb11:17
kirkmount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb,11:17
kirk       missing codepage or other error11:17
kirk       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try11:17
kirk       dmesg | tail  or so11:17
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uganadrosima: later ntfs access should work flawlessly, at least in read mode11:17
mrksbrd!paste11:17
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)11:17
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kirkwrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock       ????????11:17
coreymon77nadrosima: ntfs is a pain in the neck with linux11:17
coreymon77kirk: that means that the drive is messed up11:17
nadrosimau have dektop ?11:18
jmdcI'm having trouble with ssh. foo can do ssh localhost. bar can do ping foo. But bar cannot ssh foo.11:18
ugakirk: -t ntfs?11:18
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coreymon77kirk: something went wrong during the formatting11:18
nadrosimaon linux ?11:18
mrksbrdkirk, is this an internal or external usb HDD??11:18
kirkinternal11:18
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coreymon77nadrosima: yes11:18
puppetmasterplease someone help me11:18
aJaxskirk, you cant mount a hdd without creating a partition . use fdisk on /dev/hdb if thats your hdd11:18
ugakirk: try "mount -t ntfs /dev/sda /mnt/yourmountpoint11:18
uga"11:18
puppetmasterI have 945g intel integrated graphic card11:18
nadrosimasystem setting / advanced /files and drive system11:18
coreymon77kirk: did you format it as ntfs?11:18
nadrosimalogin as root11:19
luis_lopezjmdc, are you running a firewall on foo? try ssh -vvv foo11:19
nadrosimaright clik drive11:19
puppetmasterand it won't play video with colours11:19
puppetmasterthe picture of the video is not clear11:19
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coreymon77kirk: cause that would explain the problems you are having11:19
kirkas ext311:20
puppetmasterit's pixels appear and i can't see the vedio ol11:20
nadrosimaid mode and ntfs file system user ur not root11:20
coreymon77kirk: you sure?11:20
puppetmasterAnyone?11:20
nadrosima*****************simple100111:20
coreymon77!patience | puppetmaster11:20
ubotupuppetmaster: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines11:20
kirkyes11:20
stdinkirk: you need to put the number after hdb, ie: "hdb1" not "hdb"11:20
coreymon77nadrosima: who are you talking to11:20
kirkthere is no number..11:20
puppetmastersorry i'm waiting11:20
nadrosimamount with desktop11:20
nadrosimawho ask me11:20
puppetmasterme11:21
coreymon77nadrosima: nobody is talking about ntfs here11:21
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coreymon77as far as i know11:21
aJaxskirk, then you havent created a partition. once you do it should be something like hdb1 then you can mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdb111:21
jmdcluis_lopez: no, I'm not running a firewall, and extra verbose doesn't show much of anything. I just get to "connection to foo..." and then nothing11:22
ugacoreymon77: now I'm pretty confused, because I see quite a few comments on ntfs. Can I know what the exact problem is, in a one liner? =) can I help? ;)11:22
kirkit wont let me create a partition, thats the problem11:22
lnx_when i click on console for example near the mouse pointer  i get mini console icon same to all programs not just console , how i can cancel it ?11:22
coreymon77nadrosima: the problem is not with ntfs11:22
aJaxskirk, then your either not root or specify the wrong drive11:22
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coreymon77nadrosima: i just made a comment that ntfs is a pain in the neck to use in linux and to not bother11:23
ugaaJaxs: given the error, the drive exists though11:23
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kirkhmm so i need to login as root to create a partition11:24
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jmdcluis_lopez: I feel sheepish; I forgot about a firewall between the two hosts. Thanks11:24
coreymon77uga: kirk is having problems making a partition on his drive11:24
aJaxskirk, yes11:24
stdinlnx_: system settings > keyboard & mouse > mouse, the "Visual feedback on activation" box11:24
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coreymon77kirk: sudo works fine11:24
ugaoh, on /dev/sda?11:24
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puppetmaster?11:24
coreymon77kirk: no need to actually log in as root11:24
cjehi, is anyone here familiar with using grep to search files in subdirectories?11:24
luis_lopezjmdc, np11:24
kirkon   /dev/hdb11:24
kirkim not very savvy with the commands corey11:25
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aJaxskirk, whats your output to sudo fdisk /dev/hdb ?11:25
kirkive been on windows my entire life, just installed kubuntu 2 days ago11:25
coreymon77!sudo | kirk11:25
ubotukirk: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.11:25
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cjeI am trying to grep a string buried somewhere down the tree in a file in a subdir, not sure which subdir.11:25
ugakirk: either you need to become root, "sudo su", or change permissions to the /dev/hdb file. Check current ones with "ls -l /dev/hdb"11:25
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kirkUnable to read /dev/hdb11:25
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coreymon77kirk: in order to do many things in linux, such as modify system setting, make system wide installations, do any formatting work or anything else system wide in linux, you need to be root11:26
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kirkbrw-rw---- 1 root disk 3, 64 2007-09-14 13:57 /dev/hdb11:26
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coreymon77kirk: the way to do that is to use the sudo command in terminal11:26
DarkFeelinghello do you know which is the kubuntu satanic editon official chan?11:26
ugakirk: okay, if your user isn't in disk group, then you have no permissions to do that11:26
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ugakirk: if you want to give yourself permissions to do so, change it by "chmod o+rw /dev/hdb"11:27
ugawith sudo11:27
kirkso... sudo chmod o+rw /dev/hdb   ?11:27
aJaxsuga, he shouldnt do that11:27
ugaor else, loging in as root should do and use parted, kparted...11:27
coreymon77kirk: root is like administrator11:27
ugaaJaxs: temporarily...11:27
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nadrosimabut what user11:27
coreymon77aJaxs: its better to use sudo11:28
mrksbrdstdin, have u ever attempted to get a flatbed scanner to work under Kubuntu???????11:28
luis_lopezcje, question: the string is on the file name or inside the file?11:28
aJaxsYep11:28
ugakirk: that will give you permissions to work on that disk, but you should rever that change11:28
nadrosimaare u suer cant use this folder11:28
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nadrosimaonlyy root11:28
ugakirk: do so only temporarily though, if you want. That's a security problem otherwise11:28
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nadrosimanot another user or aplications11:28
cjeluis_lopez, thanks for asking.  The string is in the file, not the name.11:28
ugakirk: chmod o-rw /dev/hdb will remove permissions again11:28
coreymon77kirk: in order to do system wide stuff in linux, you have to be root, prefacing any command with "sudo" will do that command with root privileges11:29
kirkok so i would do.... sudo chmod o+rw /dev/hdb   first then   afterwards change it back11:29
stdinmrksbrd: attempted yes, but never got it to work. tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo11:29
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coreymon77kirk: however, you should only use sudo for things that need it11:29
kirkhmm  ok11:29
ugakirk: yes, that should do. Else it's more simple to usually become root11:30
gost87*saluda a todos11:30
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coreymon77kirk: otherwise, dont, because root is dangerous, root can do anything, and unlike windows, if you tell linux to do something that will mess up your system, it will do it11:30
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mrksbrdstdin, my attempt as well, Kubuntu shows it under lsusb, but thats about it11:30
kirkok i did - sudo chmod o+rw /dev/hdb11:31
ugacoreymon77: you mean the admin on windows isn't allowed to mess up with things? =) gimme remote control over your box, and I'll show you ;P11:31
kirkdidnt get any output11:31
ugakirk: ls -l /dev/hdb will show your new permissions11:31
coreymon77uga: sure it can11:31
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coreymon77uga: but its not like root11:31
kirkbrw-rw-rw- 1 root disk 3, 64 2007-09-14 13:57 /dev/hdb11:32
coreymon77uga: windows is good at stoppping you from deleting your entire system/messing up things11:32
coreymon77uga: not saying you cant do it11:32
ugakirk: yes, now you have permissions to run partition editors on it, without a problem11:32
coreymon77uga: but its harder11:32
ugakirk: what were you using. Parted? qtparted?11:32
kirkok and when im done, do - sudo chmod o-rw /dev/hdb   ?11:32
ugayes11:33
kirkqtparted11:33
coreymon77kirk: running qtparted as root would allow you to do things11:33
DarkFeelingim trying to change my usplash so when i installed the satanic editon i typed this: sudo update-alternatives --set usplash-artwork.so /usr/lib/usplash/satanic-flames.so and then sudo update-initramfs -u but the blue bar doesnt show. what can i do? (when using othe usplashes the blue bar appears and works well)11:33
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ugakirk: watch out with qtparted if you want to resize partitions. I had a real bad experience with it in the past, resizing11:33
luis_lopezcje, grep -R maybe?11:33
ugabut maybe it was a parted problem (qtparted is just a frontend)11:33
ugakirk: I mean, resizing partitions that contain data11:33
cjeluis_lopez, thanks, I did try that.11:33
nadrosimayep i know same -R11:34
cjeluis_lopez, I tried grep -ir stringsearch /home/mydir/ with no joy.11:34
mrksbrdtalk to ya guyz l8tr11:34
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kirkIm still getting the same error message.11:35
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kirkStill isnt letting me create a new partition11:35
coreymon77kirk: its probably a formatting problem11:35
coreymon77reformat the drive11:35
luis_lopezcje, actually, should be grep -iR11:35
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luis_lopezcje, sorry you're right11:35
kirk fdisk /dev/hdb ?11:36
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ugacoreymon77: either that, or /dev/hdb isn't a real partition?11:36
kirkthere are no partitions11:36
ugawhat was that hal interface that listed all (real) devices11:36
ugakirk: disks, I should have said11:36
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coreymon77uga: possibly, but wouldnt reformatting take care of that11:36
coreymon77uga: we should try that first11:36
coreymon77uga: especially since there is not data on the drive11:37
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slackernAre there any ktorrent 2.2.2 ubuntu packages out there?11:37
ugacoreymon77: yes, I mean... are you sure /dev/hdb is the device?11:37
coreymon77i dunno11:37
kirkhow do i reformat? fdisk /dev/hdb ?11:37
coreymon77uga: ask him11:37
ugathat's what I meant. If he's not allowed to create partitions, maybe it's not the device =)11:37
kirkyes it is11:37
ugasure? okay then11:37
ugayou could format it safely11:37
ugakirk: sudo mkfs.ext2 /dev/hdb11:38
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kirkDevice: /dev/hdb11:38
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kirkwriting inode table11:38
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kirkuga, u are u from georgia?11:39
ugano, spaniard11:39
uganot related to that ugly dog from georgia university ;)11:39
kirklol... i am11:39
coreymon77kirk: okay, i got to go now11:39
kirkthanks corey!11:39
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coreymon77kirk: so ugas gonna take over11:39
coreymon77kirk: hope you solve your problem11:40
coreymon77!11:40
kirku guys are awesome11:40
ugaheh, I hope I'll be able to help =)11:40
coreymon77:D11:40
kirkill be here on the regular11:40
ugaotherwise there's other 412 people around. Somebody sure knows ;P11:40
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kirki'm f'in stoked over my new linux discovery11:40
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coreymon77kirk: we'll let that slide, but watch the language from now on, okay?11:41
ugakirk: so partitioning went fine?11:41
kirkyes thats over11:41
lnx_how i can view in konquere preview ( small pictures ) of avi movies ?11:41
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kirkext2fs_mkdir: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while                                      creating root dir11:41
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ugakirk: uhm... I don't know about that message, but I don't see it as an error per se11:42
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nadrosimaneed to write  /etc/fstab  file11:43
nadrosimau cant acces it11:43
kirki have a few warning messages saying cant read block 011:43
nadrosimagood night11:43
ugauhm...11:43
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kirkWarning: could not read block 0: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read11:43
ugakirk: that's during mkfs?11:43
kirkyes11:43
ugaugh11:44
kirklol oh no, not "ugh"11:44
ugait looks like it's having trouble to acess the device11:44
kirkstill says it cant create a new partition11:45
cjehi, are there any grep users here?  I have a question about using grep to search the contents of a file.11:45
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ugakirk: uhm... does "sudo less -f /dev/hdb" show anything?11:46
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aJaxs!ask | cje11:46
ubotucje: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)11:46
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ugakirk: it should read the disk11:47
BluesKajcje , I just use, grep | suspectedfilename or keyword  :)11:47
kirki have no clue wtf is wrong11:48
cjeI would like to use grep to search the contents of a file using grep.  So far, the command grep searchstring -ir /home/mydir/subdir has proven not to work.11:48
ugakirk: I'm trying to figure out what's going on. less -f should show you the contents of the disk. Some weird text11:48
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ugaif it doesn't, then /dev/hdb isn't a real block device11:48
uga(ie, not the device we are looking for )11:49
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cjeBluesKaj, hmm, that is a bit confusing.  I am familiar with the pipe | and I do use it successfully on occasion, but I'm not sure what the command would be that you are suggesting.11:49
BluesKajcje what's the file do , is it an executable11:49
cjeBluesKaj, no, it is a BASH script written with a simple text editor.11:49
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BluesKajwhynot just do a simple locate in konq ?11:50
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cjeBluesKaj, I am just know finding out that Konq has that function.  Please hold, I am attempting it now.  Thakns.11:51
cjethanks11:51
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lnx_how i can view in konquere preview ( small pictures ) of avi movies ?11:52
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ugakirk_: are you alive?11:52
kirk_still here11:53
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Xn1I'm trying to get ssh to solaris xterm to recognize the backspace and not ^h for deleting. tset doesnt seem to work...can anyone help me get my solaris remote sessions to work with backspace when sshing in from kubuntu?11:53
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ugakirk_: [23:48]  <uga> kirk: I'm trying to figure out what's going on. less -f should show you the contents of the disk. Some weird text.  If it doesn't, then /dev/hdb isn't a real block device11:53
BluesKajlnx ,install w32codecs11:53
ugakirk_: not sure if you tried that one11:53
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kirk_it says11:53
ugano medium found?11:54
kirk_Device: /dev/hdb11:54
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ugakirk_: just that?11:54
ugathat's strange11:54
kirk_yes11:54
ugausually, if you try with other disks you'll see it shows disk contents11:54
kirk_Disk ST3160023A11:55
kirk_ok ok maybe this will help u help me11:55
cjeBluesKaj, thanks for the help, I'm gonna head out soon.  See ya.  by the way, the project that I am working on is a community-built documentary for Windows users about why FOSS is cool and how FOSS will break the Microsoft monopoly.  The film is called the Digital Tipping Point.11:55
xp_killer??? the what in the what?11:56
ugakirk_: no, it only tells me it's a seagate disk ;)11:56
kirk_On Disk & Filesystems / System Setting, Admin Mode /11:56
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BluesKajwell cje, good luck with that ... MS is gonna try real hard to crush the FOSS movement11:56
cjeBluesKaj, true.11:57
kirk_There's the primary with 2 partitions, ext3 and swap, /dev/hda1 and hda511:57
kirk_BUT11:57
kirk_for the other there is no partitions, all it has is the disk11:57
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cjeBluesKaj, IMHO, that is why we need a film to make FOSS look fun and sexy to Windows users.11:57
kirk_under device it's blank11:57
kirk_blank all the way across11:57
cjeBluesKaj, that is the goal of our film -----> to make FOSS look fun and sexy.11:57
xp_killerBluesKaj: i install compiz i cant find how to lauch it so i uninstall it11:57
ugakirk_: yes, I know. But if you partition the whole disk (/dev/hdb) it should somehow work11:57
kirk_no mount point, type, device11:57
BluesKajcje , right on !11:57
ugakirk_: I mean... format, not partition =)11:58
cje:-)11:58
kirk_when i click on it11:58
kirk_and clickn ew11:58
kirk_n ew11:58
kirk_it opens the config kde control module11:58
kirk_but it doesnt apply what i set11:59
ugaI don't quite trust gui tools for this sort of thing11:59
Dr_willis_yep.  its always nice to go edit the configs yourself.11:59
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Dr_willis_his partiion should be hdb1   not hdb. :) if its a hard drive.12:00
ugakirk_: okay, if your "less" doesn't do the work it should... what does "sudo cat /dev/hdb" do?12:00
ugakirk_: does it read anyhthing?12:00
lnx_how i can view in konquere preview ( small pictures ) of avi movies ?12:00
kirk_1 sec, im formatting again12:00
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=== Dr_willis_ perks up.. You are formating /dev/hdb ? or hdb1 ?
ugaDr_willis_: well, it's a non-partitioned drive12:00
ugaisn't hdb1 the primary partition?12:00
Dr_willis_uga,  ugh. :) why is he doing that?12:01
ugaan dthen 6,7,8 secondary ones12:01
kirk_yes12:01
ugaDr_willis_: trying to partition it12:01
ugadoesn't work12:01
ugawe even tried formatting it12:01
Dr_willis_good old fdisk dosent do it? eh?12:01
ugahe's trying with qtparted. Maybe it's a gui issue12:01
kirk_i also tried with gparted12:01
Dr_willis_often it pays to fall back to the basics. :)12:01
ugaDr_willis_: dare guiding him through fdisk? =)12:02
Dr_willis_sudo fdisk /dev/hdb12:02
Dr_willis_d  to delete partions.. n to make new ones..  w to writwe changes to disk. done. :)12:02
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BluesKajlnx_, are you trying to watch avi's on the web in konq web browser ?12:02
Dr_willis_assuming hdb is the right drive12:02
kirk_Unable to read /dev/hdb12:02
Dr_willis_kirk,  you did use sudo?12:02
kirk_yes it is the right drive12:02
kirk_yes12:02
ScorpKingcfdisk might be a little more user friendly. :)12:03
ugaDr_willis_: we changed permissions using chmod even, to go+rw12:03
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Dr_willis_i would say reboot. check the bios,  be sure the mb is seeing the hard drive.  and try again with frisk12:03
Dr_willis_that way you can be at a clean state.12:03
Dr_willis_since i dont know what all you have done to the thing.12:03
lnx_BluesKaj , no , when you browse on your local driver and you have "image priview" that is small picture or text document priview and you see the first 3-4 lines of the text files . ..  same with media12:03
kirk_it was just working this morning, i had windows on it and i formatted using qtparted from ntfs to ext312:03
rrbizsweet, kradio even allow u to put a logo image of stations12:04
Dr_willis_'foramted from ntfs to ext3' -> you converted it? or you mean you deleted the ntfs. and made ext3 ?12:04
Dr_willis_if 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb' isent showing the drive.. well.. thers some issues going on.12:04
kirk_i dont really know12:04
Dr_willis_im not even sure you can convert ntfs to ext3 :)12:05
kirk_right now the partition and filesystem says unallocated12:05
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Dr_willis_ok.. so double check.. 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb' shows what?12:05
kirk_it did nothing12:05
kirk_asked for pw, then no output12:06
BluesKajlnx , you need to install a media player like mplayer and install w32codecs to play avi and wm files12:06
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Dr_willis_kirk_,  eww...  thats.. odd.12:06
ugaDr_willis_: okay, we are two now, pretty confused ;)12:06
Dr_willis_I would have to suggest a reboot at this time. to clean stuff up.12:06
lnx_BluesKaj , i can play them , i just cant view the preview in konq , do you understand what i wnat todo ?12:06
kirk_ok brb12:07
BluesKajoh lnx_ IC what you mean...hmm you cant see the the dialog when you haver the cursor over the thumbnail ?12:07
BluesKajhover12:07
lnx_BluesKaj , yes and even not on the file that im hover on12:08
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BluesKajDr_willis , have you encountered this problem? lnx_ cant see the the dialog when he hovers the cursor over a thumbnail in konq ?12:09
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Dr_willis_over a picture thumbnail?12:10
lnx_Dr_willis_ , yes12:10
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BluesKajwhat about icons lnx_ ?12:10
lnx_BluesKaj , what ?12:11
Dr_willis_i see a large 'image view/details' on the image. when i mouse over.12:11
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ugaDr_willis_: setttings->behaviour->show file tips and previews thing is enabled?12:12
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BluesKajlnx_, you have icons in the panel or the desktop, does the dialog popup when you hover the cursor over them ?12:12
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Dr_willis_file tips. and show previews in file tips. both enabled.12:12
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ugaDr_willis_: what format is the file, jpeg? jp2k? png?12:13
lnx_BluesKaj , in konq not in the dektop top  , yes dialog popup when i hover the icon ( all the movies have an icon with movie type . .. )12:13
ugaor also... what does "file foo.jpg" or so say on the command line?12:13
Dr_willis_hmm.. mixed images. jpg mainly12:13
ugauhm...12:13
kirkok big change after reboot12:14
kirknow TWO partitions are showing up12:14
ugaoh, finally? =)12:14
ugaLOL12:14
lnx_i have enabled previews but there wasnt something like "movies" or "media"12:14
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kirkone /dev/hdb1  type-unknown12:15
Dr_willis_kirk,  some times - after changing partition's the system MUST be rebooted.  fdisk often gives that warning.. gparted may not. :)12:15
ugakirk: okay, you could reedit partitions ...12:15
kirkthe other /dev/hdb-1    type "free"12:15
kirkthe unknown type is the one with the 150 gigs i wanna use12:15
Dr_willis_so fdisk -l /dev/hdb shows 2 partitions?    there should be a hdb1 and hdb2 or some other ##12:16
Dr_willis_never seen a hdb-1 befor.12:16
ugaDr_willis_: you must be one of those Windows gods. A linux one doesn't ever think of rebooting ;)12:16
Dr_willis_uga,  ive seen that message 'warning kernel is still using the old filesystem layout, you must reboot....' on MANY a times when installing linux. :)12:16
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Dr_willis_and using fdisk. :)12:16
lnx_someone ?12:16
ugaDr_willis_: hehe12:17
kirkthe hdb-1 size is only 7.84 MB12:17
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Dr_willis_that sounds like somthing windows would do. a 8mb partition12:17
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Dr_willis_you want to use the whole hd as a linux partition?12:17
kirkonly for storage12:17
Dr_willis_id'd say use fdisk, delete them both. make a new partition, write changes.. reboot. then format the sucker. :)12:18
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Dr_willis_the name 'hdb-1' is VERY weird...12:18
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kirkhahah this whole issue is weird12:18
kirkok let me see if im learning...12:19
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kirki go sudo fdisk /dev/hdb12:19
kirk?12:19
Dr_willis_sudo fdisk /dev/hdb, then d 1, to delete #1, d 1 , to delete it again, s to show.. (should be none) then 'n' for new partition. primary, #1, enter twice to fill in whole hd. :)12:19
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kirkd 112:26
rrbizwonder if there's a way to do this on kde http://blog.prashanthellina.com/2007/08/22/matrix-desktop/12:27
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pillowpantsI just closed a game, and now my screen in super small in a scrolling sort of resolution12:28
pillowpantsdoes anyone know what i should do?12:28
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pillowpantstheres a command ive put in the konsole before, but i forgot what it was12:29
rrbizlog out and back in12:29
pillowpantsyeah, but ive got stuff open that i cant close12:29
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ScorpKingpillowpants: .bash_history contains all the commands that you typed before.12:30
albertmkHow can I access my windows files by kubuntu?12:30
pillowpantsthis was a few installs ago, heh12:30
pillowpantsbut ill remember that command12:30
pillowpantsalbertmk: look in the /mnt or /media directories12:31
pillowpantsmine are in the /media12:32
albertmkit is not there12:32
pillowpantsand then just click hda1 or what have you, whichever is the partition of your windows12:32
albertmkI already searched there12:32
pillowpantseven in mnt?12:32
albertmkyeah..12:32
pillowpantsdo a seach for windows12:32
pillowpantsit should be in your storage media folder12:33
pillowpantswhen you click the computer icon on the bottom left of the screen12:33
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nainnain6Re coucou12:36
nainnain6c'est encore moi12:36
nainnain6arf il n'y a plus personne12:36

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