| keescook | geser: cool | 12:33 |
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| keescook | ajmitch: true, true. | 12:34 |
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| gnomefreak | ajmitch: some, im waiting on a few to be released but they havent been pushed from new yet about a week or so | 12:35 |
| ajmitch | gnomefreak: binary NEW? | 12:35 |
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| gnomefreak | https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+queue | 12:36 |
| gnomefreak | think that is source or both as i have seen binaries in there | 12:36 |
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| geser | gnomefreak: it's very selective right now | 12:37 |
| Fujitsu | gnomefreak: Both. | 12:37 |
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| geser | open sync request aren't also processed for over a week now (my oldest one is one week old) | 12:37 |
| pochu | pitti will process them tomorrow | 12:38 |
| geser | good to hear | 12:38 |
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| gnomefreak | them being released isnt such a big deal since i can build and install but just commenting from above ;) | 12:39 |
| gnomefreak | hm | 12:39 |
| gnomefreak | i thought 1 failure to build on an arch stopped all binaries from release | 12:40 |
| ajmitch | then we'd never get anything done :) | 12:40 |
| gnomefreak | i see amd64 not built yet or failed and 386 .debs are in repos | 12:40 |
| geser | or less archs | 12:40 |
| gnomefreak | ajmitch: good point | 12:40 |
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| geser | gnomefreak: you don't need to rebuild packages in bin-NEW on your own, looks like you can fetch the deb manually from the queue | 12:41 |
| gnomefreak | i dont see .debs for it | 12:42 |
| gnomefreak | how do i tell if its ftb or not? | 12:42 |
| gnomefreak | without loooking through all 3300 ftbs | 12:43 |
| gnomefreak | nvm | 12:44 |
| gnomefreak | found it | 12:44 |
| geser | gnomefreak: goto https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+queue, expand the one you want and you will find links to the debs | 12:48 |
| gnomefreak | geser: nope it hasnt been pushed to farm yet | 12:48 |
| geser | gnomefreak: which package are you interested in? | 12:51 |
| gnomefreak | amarok2 | 12:51 |
| gnomefreak | i found koffice2 in repos for 386 | 12:51 |
| geser | ah, it's in source-NEW | 12:51 |
| gnomefreak | yes thats the only NEW i know of | 12:52 |
| geser | so it didn't reach the buildds yet | 12:52 |
| gnomefreak | looks like it | 12:52 |
| geser | each packages does through the NEW queue twice: one time for the source package and one time for new debs | 12:53 |
| gnomefreak | ah but same link for both? just the white mark on them means bins are there | 12:53 |
| gnomefreak | them=icons | 12:53 |
| geser | yes, that page lists both types | 12:54 |
| geser | when you hover other the icon you get an tooltip saying which type it is | 12:54 |
| gnomefreak | ah cool ty | 12:55 |
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| Keybuk | gotta love geeks | 12:59 |
| Keybuk | their first instinct when seeing a fire in their house is to take a picture of it, then put it on their blog | 12:59 |
| Keybuk | rather than putting it out | 12:59 |
| ion_ | :-D | 01:01 |
| geser | :) | 01:02 |
| geser | no livestream? | 01:02 |
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| keescook | hmpf, still get blank fullscreen when using 3d on nvidia with compiz. and suddenly no decorator again. :P | 01:05 |
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| wasabi | weee kernel oops | 01:15 |
| wasabi | this new kernel is kicking my ass | 01:15 |
| gnomefreak | wasabi: -11? | 01:15 |
| wasabi | Yeah | 01:15 |
| wasabi | Oh, looks like it's VMware's fault anyways. | 01:16 |
| wasabi | Or, at least, it's RELATED to vmware. | 01:16 |
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| gnomefreak | gdm is broken there is no menu items xubuntu login screen is fine but default gdm is broken as well as ones i installed | 01:44 |
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| kagou | Good morning | 07:49 |
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| desrt | NO! | 08:02 |
| desrt | coNP is an awesome nick | 08:02 |
| === asisak is sorry. | ||
| asisak | Hey desrt BTW :) | 08:02 |
| desrt | i guess one of your branches rejected :( | 08:02 |
| desrt | hell o:) | 08:03 |
| desrt | it is time for bed. bye bye | 08:03 |
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| pitti | Good morning | 08:23 |
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| kagou | hello pitti | 08:33 |
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| StevenK | Morning pitti | 08:37 |
| StevenK | pitti: libboost*1.34.0 can be NBS'd out at your leisure | 08:38 |
| pitti | yay! | 08:39 |
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| ScottK | pitti: In the interests of removing view-cvs (which is now obsolete), I'd appreciate it if you would have a look at Bug 139283 and the resulting binaries after it builds (view-vc has been FTBFS from us since we got it in the spring). Once it's published, I'll have the bug to remove view-cvs to you. | 08:50 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 139283 in viewvc "Please sync viewvc (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139283 | 08:50 |
| pitti | does any KDEish person feel like rebuilding okular against new poppler? | 08:52 |
| StevenK | I tried, it breaks | 08:54 |
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| pitti | doko_: ecj-bootstrap{,-gcj} is NBS, but kaffe builds against it; what is the replacement? | 08:59 |
| pitti | doko_: oh, and eclipse-gcj, too | 08:59 |
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| pitti | StevenK: I guess you already looked at 'sear'? this is the single package that holds back three NBS packages | 09:00 |
| pitti | StevenK: oh, okular doesn't work with the new poppler API? | 09:01 |
| StevenK | pitti: No, okular just doesn't build at all | 09:03 |
| StevenK | pitti: I'm waiting for Riddell | 09:04 |
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| pitti | StevenK: Riddell is on vac, btw | 09:04 |
| StevenK | I know that | 09:04 |
| StevenK | pitti: sear is being dealt with by man-di, he's the Debian maintainer | 09:05 |
| pitti | StevenK: sorry, sync-source.py got broken | 09:05 |
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| MacSlow | Greetings everybody! | 09:07 |
| pitti | StevenK: feel free to use http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/scripts/syncpackage to sync viewvc for now | 09:07 |
| pitti | hey MacSlow! got powah again? | 09:08 |
| superm1 | hey pitti today (friday) is your queue clearing day right?, mind if i bug/remind you again about looking over those two sru bugs? :) | 09:10 |
| pitti | superm1: which ones? | 09:10 |
| abooker | If one wished to produce a script that resized the rootfs, is there a particular place one could check out a few distro specifics? | 09:10 |
| superm1 | pitti, bug 134726 bug 134801 | 09:10 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 134726 in mythtv "MythTV 0.20.2 SRU " [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134726 | 09:10 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 134801 in mythplugins "Mythplugins 0.20.2 SRU " [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134801 | 09:10 |
| ScottK | pitti: Looking. | 09:10 |
| pitti | superm1: I don't normally look for universe SRU bugs, only when someone actually uploads something to the queue | 09:11 |
| superm1 | pitti, they're both already in proposed, its at the point when they need to be copied to -updates | 09:12 |
| pitti | superm1: ah, of course I do look for verification-done tags | 09:12 |
| pitti | superm1: yep, will do that | 09:12 |
| superm1 | thanks | 09:12 |
| StevenK | pitti: Sync viewvc why? | 09:12 |
| ScottK | StevenK: I think he meant me. | 09:13 |
| MacSlow | pitti, for the moment yes... and I hope it will stay that way... but then... that's what I thought yesterday morning too... well and yesterday went not that smooth power-wise. | 09:13 |
| StevenK | Ah ha | 09:13 |
| pitti | ScottK: I did, sorry | 09:13 |
| ScottK | No problem. I'm used to it. | 09:13 |
| pitti | superm1: I won't copy them to -updates until gutsy is fixed, BTW | 09:13 |
| superm1 | pitti, what do you mean? | 09:14 |
| pitti | superm1: the gutsy tasks of those bugs are still open | 09:14 |
| superm1 | what's wrong with gutsy? | 09:14 |
| StevenK | pitti: Ah, more things about okular - it's now in kde4graphics, so the okular source package can probably just die, but like I say, I want to talk to Riddell about it | 09:14 |
| superm1 | oh then i labeled the tasks wrong | 09:14 |
| superm1 | they're both resolved in gutsy already | 09:14 |
| superm1 | the version in gutsy is 0.20.2 | 09:14 |
| pitti | superm1: if those are fixed in gutsy, then please set them to fixreleased | 09:14 |
| superm1 | i'll fix those tasks then | 09:14 |
| pitti | superm1: ah, I see; thank you! | 09:14 |
| superm1 | pitti, there we go, those should be marked right. it didn't occur to me that the task without a distro label meant gutsy. | 09:15 |
| pitti | superm1: well, it means 'current development release' | 09:16 |
| superm1 | right | 09:16 |
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| abooker | Hmm OK, I'll take that as a piss off you script writing kiddie. I apologise for taking up your time. | 09:20 |
| StevenK | pitti: I can fix eclipse, if you wish | 09:20 |
| pitti | StevenK: oh, you know what the replacement is? | 09:20 |
| StevenK | pitti: Yup, I've done a few | 09:20 |
| pitti | abooker? | 09:21 |
| pitti | WTH? | 09:21 |
| StevenK | pitti: ikvm can be fixed, but requires a UVFe. | 09:21 |
| StevenK | pitti: kaffe is then the only one left, and I don't think it builds | 09:21 |
| StevenK | kaffe also hasn't been updated since bofore Etch released | 09:23 |
| StevenK | before, even | 09:23 |
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| ScottK | pitti: I'm having trouble with your syncpackage script. I have the package locally here. Would it be a problem if I just dput it? | 09:24 |
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| pitti | ScottK: oh, trouble? | 09:24 |
| ScottK | Yes. I'll get you the error. | 09:24 |
| pitti | ScottK: if you mangled the source.changes for s/unstable/gutsy/, then it should work | 09:24 |
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| ScottK | Ah. OK. Let me try than then. | 09:25 |
| pitti | ScottK: and Origin: debian/unstable | 09:25 |
| StevenK | How did sync-source.py break? | 09:26 |
| pitti | psycopg.ProgrammingError: ERROR: column "published" does not exist at character 397 | 09:26 |
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| ScottK | pitti: Is there a preferred mangling method (first time I've had to do it)? | 09:26 |
| pitti | ScottK: what's wrong with the script? | 09:26 |
| StevenK | (Next door's two dogs don't like the band practising, so bark a lot - my dog doesn't seem to mind, which is interesting) | 09:27 |
| StevenK | % diff -urNP ikvm-0.28.0.0 ikvm-0.34.0.2 | diffstat | tail -n 1 | 09:27 |
| StevenK | 181 files changed, 265313 insertions(+), 209945 deletions(-) | 09:27 |
| mdke | dogs have different tastes in music I guess | 09:28 |
| StevenK | Oh, *wonderful* | 09:28 |
| ScottK2 | pitti: http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/37392/ | 09:28 |
| StevenK | ScottK: No point even asking, based on that diffstat, right? :-) | 09:28 |
| pitti | ScottK2: how did you call this? | 09:28 |
| ScottK2 | It looks like it gets the two files and then keeps going and dies on Python-Version: current | 09:28 |
| ScottK2 | Getting | 09:29 |
| pitti | ooh | 09:29 |
| pitti | ScottK: right, it probably assumes that Files: comes last in the .dsc | 09:29 |
| ScottK2 | python ../syncpackage http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/v/viewvc/viewvc_1.0.3-2.1.dsc gutsy | 09:29 |
| pitti | ScottK: which was true those two years ago when I wrote it | 09:29 |
| ScottK2 | Of course | 09:29 |
| StevenK | pitti: You could use the DSCParser in Linda ... | 09:29 |
| pygi | doko_, poke? ?^_^ | 09:30 |
| viviersf | Mithrandir, ping | 09:30 |
| ScottK2 | pitti: Is it looking to find anything other than orig.tar.gz and diff.gz? | 09:31 |
| Mithrandir | viviersf: iz contentless ping. | 09:31 |
| pitti | ScottK2: no (except for native packages, etc) | 09:32 |
| pitti | ScottK2: it should probably just call dget nowadays | 09:32 |
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| StevenK | pitti: Agreed, calling dget is much less work. :-) | 09:33 |
| StevenK | pitti: I'm half tempted to not test build eclipse ... Which makes me feel naughty. | 09:35 |
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| viviersf | Mithrandir, quick question, is there anything different building custom gutsy images than in feisty ? | 09:35 |
| dholbach | good morning | 09:36 |
| Mithrandir | viviersf: custom ISOs? No, the procedure is the same as it's been since dapper. | 09:36 |
| StevenK | pitti: -3ubuntu2 built fine, and it looks like it will take 2 hours to test build, and all I did was change the Depends line in debian/control. | 09:37 |
| pitti | StevenK: sounds fine to throw at the buildds... | 09:37 |
| viviersf | Mithrandir, ya like custom distros. okay weird cos my scripts dont work in gutsy anymore. prolly like a kernel change or something :( | 09:37 |
| pitti | StevenK: even if it FTBFSes, it's not the end of the world | 09:37 |
| StevenK | pitti: Agreed. I don't think it will. | 09:37 |
| StevenK | pitti: Uploaded. | 09:38 |
| StevenK | ScottK: Ping, did you see the diffstat for ikvm? | 09:39 |
| ScottK | pitti: And then I dput it after I run the script, right? | 09:39 |
| pitti | StevenK: so what did you change the depends to, i. e. what replaces ecj-bootstrap? | 09:39 |
| ScottK | StevenK: I haven't looked. | 09:39 |
| StevenK | ecj-boostrap-gcj -> ecj-gcj | 09:39 |
| pitti | ScottK: yep | 09:39 |
| pitti | StevenK: aah | 09:39 |
| ScottK | or I forget. It's lat here. | 09:39 |
| StevenK | ScottK: I can repaste | 09:40 |
| Mithrandir | viviersf: oh, unionfs is busted at the moment. | 09:40 |
| viviersf | Mithrandir, ah damn! okay that would explain it. Thanks man :) | 09:40 |
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| ScottK | pitti: Bug #139283 is done, so you can usubscribe the archive if you care about such things. | 09:41 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 139283 in viewvc "Please sync viewvc (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139283 | 09:41 |
| StevenK | pitti: If you've NBS'd out boost, can you remove the lists? | 09:41 |
| pitti | StevenK: I NBSed some more stuff, so I'll just regenerate the lists | 09:42 |
| StevenK | pitti: Works for me. | 09:42 |
| ScottK | pitti: Also, I've got a stack of sync requests pending. Is there any problem if I just do them all this way? | 09:42 |
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| pitti | StevenK: hm, needs another publisher run | 09:43 |
| StevenK | pitti: I'll bug you in an hour, then. :-) | 09:43 |
| pitti | ScottK: not really, if you triple-check that the changelog is correct (-v like) | 09:43 |
| pitti | ScottK: that script more or less just does what sync-source.py is doing | 09:43 |
| ScottK | pitti: OK. Thanks. | 09:44 |
| ScottK | I think I'm going to go to bed now, but I'll attend to it tomorrow if sync-source.py doesn't have a magic recovery in the meantime. | 09:44 |
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| siretart | asac: hm. I see. So I wonder if we really shouldn't go back to 0.5.8 for 7.10 | 09:51 |
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| ScottK | pitti: When you say triple check the changelog is correct, I'd like to know exactly what you want checked for so I don't mess it up... | 09:53 |
| ScottK | Then I'm really going to bed. | 09:53 |
| pitti | ScottK: that it mentions the right versions, i. e. all changelogs since the last gutsy version | 09:54 |
| pitti | ScottK: like what you do with -v for merges | 09:54 |
| ScottK | OK. Got it. Thanks. | 09:54 |
| dholbach | mdke: can we close https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-user-docs/+bug/139064 ? | 09:55 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 139064 in gnome-user-docs "Please update gnome-user-docs from bzr" [Undecided,In progress] | 09:55 |
| ScottK | pitti: I enjoyed getting the sylpheed-claes removal bugmail. Thanks. | 09:55 |
| ScottK | Good night all. | 09:55 |
| pitti | bye ScottK | 09:55 |
| Fujitsu | Night ScottK. | 09:55 |
| ScottK | claes/claws. | 09:55 |
| dholbach | mdke: did you merge from http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~dholbach/gnome-user-docs/fixes ? | 09:55 |
| pygi | Keybuk, ping | 10:06 |
| Keybuk | pygi: hi | 10:08 |
| pitti | superm1: oh, sorry, mythplugins needs a proper upload to -updates | 10:08 |
| pygi | Keybuk, would you be so kind to add me to the code.google.com soc project? Thanks | 10:08 |
| superm1 | pitti, i'm guessing because of the ~proposed1 that was missed? | 10:08 |
| pitti | superm1: right; mythtv is ok | 10:08 |
| pitti | superm1: is it ok to copy mythtv without mythplugins? | 10:08 |
| superm1 | yea i thought that might be trouble, wasn't sure if you can correct it before copying | 10:09 |
| superm1 | pitti, i can upload the mythplugins right now if you'd like | 10:09 |
| superm1 | so you can do them both at once | 10:09 |
| pitti | superm1: no, copying means verbatim copy without any bit of change | 10:09 |
| pitti | superm1: that would be good | 10:09 |
| superm1 | ah i see | 10:09 |
| pitti | superm1: what it (more or less) does is to only copy the Packages.gz entry without touching /pool at all | 10:09 |
| Keybuk | pygi: err, SoC has ended? | 10:09 |
| pitti | superm1: (some more db changes in the background, of course, but that's whatit comes down to for users) | 10:10 |
| superm1 | ah i wondered how pockets worked. do i need to upload the orig.gz still too? | 10:10 |
| pygi | Keybuk, yes, but I meant add me to this so I could upload code: http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code-2007-ubuntu/ | 10:10 |
| pitti | superm1: nope | 10:10 |
| superm1 | okay that will make these quick uploads | 10:10 |
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| Keybuk | pygi: it does not appear that I can | 10:12 |
| Keybuk | pygi: ask doko | 10:12 |
| pygi | Keybuk, ok, when he's back | 10:12 |
| pygi | oh, he's here :p | 10:12 |
| pygi | doko, poke, add me to the project please :) | 10:12 |
| superm1 | pitti, okay those should be up | 10:14 |
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| doko | pygi: looking ... | 10:15 |
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| pitti | superm1: I'll reject the uploads, you uploaded to -proposed | 10:16 |
| superm1 | pitti, oh i can actually just put them right to -updates then | 10:16 |
| dholbach | calc: bug 135086? mjg59: bug 127273? | 10:16 |
| superm1 | okay whoops :) | 10:16 |
| pitti | superm1: yep | 10:16 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 135086 in unzip "zipgrep: exit code always 0" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135086 | 10:16 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 127273 in laptop-mode-tools "laptop-mode init script links not created" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127273 | 10:16 |
| superm1 | pitti, can i use that same version number, or do i need to bump again? | 10:16 |
| pitti | superm1: no, please reuse the number, just fix s/proposed/updates/ in the changelog | 10:17 |
| superm1 | k | 10:17 |
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| superm1 | pitti, okay should be back up again | 10:19 |
| dholbach | calc: oh, also bug 5462 | 10:21 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 5462 in mc "Dutch translation: wrong shortcut" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/5462 | 10:21 |
| pygi | doko, kk | 10:24 |
| pitti | superm1: ok, all done; thanks | 10:25 |
| superm1 | thanks pitti appreciate it | 10:26 |
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| pitti | siretart: I'm not that happy about accepting cdrtools from source NEW, since it would probably break upgrades | 10:55 |
| pitti | siretart: i. e. it would replace cdrkit with cdrecord on upgrades which still have the transitional packages installed | 10:56 |
| pitti | siretart: and we don't want to force people to automatically move from main to multiverse packages | 10:56 |
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| siretart | pitti: what kind of problems do you foresee? | 11:02 |
| siretart | query? | 11:02 |
| pitti | siretart: see above, automatically upgrading from cdrkit (main/supported) to cdrtools (multiverse, not supported) | 11:03 |
| pitti | siretart: and, freeze-wise, this is a new upstream version etc. | 11:03 |
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| Q-FUNK | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evince/+bug/135832 | 11:16 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 135832 in evince "evince: libgtkprint support is broken" [Low,Incomplete] | 11:16 |
| Q-FUNK | howdy! would anyone have a clue about this one? | 11:16 |
| soren | Where are the fields in the Release file documented? | 11:16 |
| saispo | scripts/mod/../../include/linux/input.h:30: erreur: expected specifier-qualifier-list before __s32 | 11:17 |
| saispo | anyone know i can fix that ? | 11:18 |
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| siretart | \o/ :) | 11:25 |
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| \sh | pitti, could you have a look at bug 139376 | 11:31 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 139376 in quagga "[UVF exception] please update quagga 0.99.9 " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139376 | 11:31 |
| pitti | \sh: can you please attach the debdiff between current gutsy and your new source? | 11:33 |
| \sh | pitti, even it's a new source? sure, no problem :) | 11:34 |
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| pitti | \sh: yes, it'll be big, but it's convenient for reviewing | 11:34 |
| pitti | \sh: thanks | 11:34 |
| pitti | \sh: (yes, debdiff works for new sources, too) | 11:34 |
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| \sh | pitti, give me 5 secs ;) | 11:35 |
| mvo | asac: network-manager is in "no network connection" mode again also my interface is manually managed | 11:36 |
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| \sh | pitti, attached | 11:37 |
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| asac | mvo: i filed bug 139566 for you now | 11:46 |
| mvo | asac: thanks! | 11:46 |
| asac | mvo: can you please attach some info .. like: is this always the case? | 11:47 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 139566 in network-manager "network-manager is in "no network connection" mode even though all interface are manually managed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139566 | 11:47 |
| mvo | asac: sure, I'm happy to attach anything you need | 11:47 |
| asac | mvo: ok i'll ask in bug | 11:47 |
| mvo | asac: it seems to be not always the case, it worked a while. but then I usually suspend/resume my machine and hardly ever boot it. | 11:47 |
| mvo | asac: but currently I do have to boot it as fglrx breaks suspsend :( | 11:48 |
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| asac | now i have to reboot ;) | 11:51 |
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| Mithrandir | hm, can I tell requestsync to send me a bcc? I like keeping copies of my outgoing mail. | 12:10 |
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| Mithrandir | hm, why doesn't malone mark bugs in removed packages as fix released or invalid or something? | 12:24 |
| illovae | hello :) | 12:25 |
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| siretart | pygi: see gutsy-changes: Accepted cdrtools 10:2.01.01a33-0ubuntu1 (source) | 12:33 |
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| Kmos | Mithrandir: yes, you can.. you need to modify the source :) | 12:35 |
| Kmos | or ask pitti to do it in the next version | 12:35 |
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| \sh | hmmm... | 12:46 |
| \sh | Errors were encountered while processing: | 12:46 |
| \sh | /var/cache/apt/archives/vim-common_1%3a7.1-056+2ubuntu1_i386.deb | 12:46 |
| \sh | /var/cache/apt/archives/vim-runtime_1%3a7.1-056+2ubuntu1_all.deb | 12:46 |
| \sh | while creating a dapper chroot | 12:46 |
| StevenK | What error? | 12:47 |
| \sh | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/vim-common_1%3a7.1-056+2ubuntu1_i386.deb (--unpack): | 12:47 |
| \sh | trying to overwrite `/usr/share/vim/vimcurrent', which is also in package vim-runtime | 12:47 |
| \sh | hmm... | 12:48 |
| \sh | that's strange | 12:48 |
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| \sh | I just use dapper and dapper-security archive... | 12:48 |
| \sh | and this version is not in dapper | 12:50 |
| \sh | argll.found it | 12:51 |
| \sh | my script is borked setting up pbuilderrcs | 12:52 |
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| cjwatson | keescook: don't we need to fix bug 139265 now that we have a new version of pam? | 12:56 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 139265 in samba "localized pam == no samba password changing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139265 | 12:56 |
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| Mithrandir | more icons! | 12:57 |
| dholbach | yoohoo | 12:58 |
| pitti | cjwatson: right, we do; vorlon mentioned it some days ago | 12:59 |
| mjg59 | mvo_: If compiz locks up rv350, it's likely to affect a lot of other chips in that family. r300 isn't terribly stable in terms of 3D | 12:59 |
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| pitti | cjwatson: probably with calling passwd with LC_MESSAGES=C or so | 01:00 |
| mvo_ | mjg59: right. the only r300 I can get access to easily is a rv350, so I need to watch out for more reports | 01:02 |
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| geser | doko: do you know what could be the cause for "libgcj failure: gcj linkage error.", "Incorrect library ABI version detected. Aborting."? | 01:30 |
| geser | it's bug #132923 | 01:30 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 132923 in pdftk "pdftk aborts on start" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132923 | 01:30 |
| doko | geser: rebuild with a recent gcj | 01:31 |
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| laga | hi guys. how are the translations for ubiquity handled, if not in launchpad? | 01:32 |
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| pitti | dholbach: how does compare-packages differ from debdiff? | 01:38 |
| dholbach | pitti: it diffs all the binary packages | 01:38 |
| cjwatson | laga: they're handled in Launchpad but the translations are only actually merged back by hand; I'm in the process of doing that now | 01:39 |
| cjwatson | dholbach: so does debdiff if applied to a pair of .changes files | 01:39 |
| pitti | dholbach: right, debdiff old.i386.changes new.i386.changes | 01:39 |
| dholbach | oh... ... ... | 01:39 |
| cjwatson | laga: most packages use language packs, but ubiquity can't because it would need all language packs to be installed on the live CD which isn't feasible | 01:40 |
| dholbach | pitti, cjwatson: how do you get an old *.changes file for a build that you don't have on your disk already? | 01:40 |
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| dholbach | I'm happy to drop compare-packages, just trying to find out a clever workflow | 01:41 |
| pitti | dholbach: that's pretty tricky indeed; how does c-p do it? | 01:41 |
| pitti | dholbach: for this case I would just compare the .debs one by one | 01:41 |
| dholbach | it doesn't, you either need your own mirror or get debs | 01:42 |
| pitti | dholbach: I'm not saying that c-p isn't a good idea, I'm just curious what it does :) | 01:42 |
| dholbach | but at least they are easier to get | 01:42 |
| cjwatson | debdiff --from foo_1.deb bar_1.deb --to foo_2.deb bar_2.deb | 01:42 |
| dholbach | ok, gotcha | 01:42 |
| cjwatson | rtfm :-) | 01:42 |
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| dholbach | changes committed in ubuntu-dev-tools | 01:44 |
| Mithrandir | or have a fake-changes command that gives you a fake .changes file for a set of .dscs/orig.tar.gz/.tar.gz/.deb files, so you can do debdiff <(fake-changes foo_1.deb foo_2.deb) foo_2.changes | 01:45 |
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| pitti | evand: gobuntu-meta is not currently seeded; is it meant to stay in main for gutsy, for CD building etc.? | 01:52 |
| StevenHarperUK | Hi im looking for a Guide to using po translation files in PYTHON for my GTK project - can anyone help? | 01:53 |
| pitti | StevenHarperUK: you probably don't want to use .po files directly, right? | 01:54 |
| pitti | StevenHarperUK: you should just use the standard gettext Python module | 01:54 |
| dholbach | StevenHarperUK: try using python-distutils-extra | 01:54 |
| StevenHarperUK | Im have an XMl file at the moment | 01:54 |
| StevenHarperUK | Whats the correct way | 01:54 |
| pitti | dholbach: oh, cool; in apport and r-m I still have custom code to build .mo, etc. | 01:55 |
| dholbach | glatzor rocks :) | 01:55 |
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| StevenHarperUK | Is there a GUIDE to making an APP Multi lingual using PO files ? | 01:56 |
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| pitti | cjwatson: hmm, component-mismatches still contains lots of fallout from mobile (like claws-mail, mce-dev, etc.) | 01:56 |
| laga | cjwatson: alright. i was going to translate the mythbuntu frontend into german. is it too late now? | 01:57 |
| dholbach | StevenHarperUK: python-distutils-extra is a package including a python module that helps with translations in python projects | 01:57 |
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| StevenHarperUK | Is there a Guide to doing that? | 01:58 |
| StevenHarperUK | An API - or example would be a great start | 01:58 |
| dholbach | apt-get source python-distutils-extra contains an example | 01:58 |
| dholbach | bzr get http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-art-pkg/example-look/dev to | 01:59 |
| dholbach | too | 01:59 |
| \sh | pitti, I can't upload ;) could you upload it? :) | 02:00 |
| pitti | \sh: oh, sure | 02:00 |
| \sh | pitti, thx :) | 02:00 |
| \sh | pitti, fixes for the other distros are coming...dapper is attached | 02:00 |
| StevenHarperUK | Theres nothing there http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-art-pkg/example-look/dev/ | 02:01 |
| dholbach | run bzr get <url> | 02:01 |
| StevenHarperUK | ta | 02:02 |
| cjwatson | laga: no | 02:02 |
| cjwatson | pitti: as I noted in my mail, I can only get rid of some of them; things that get pulled in through build-depends are too hard to get rid of without another pile of germinate runs which would be computationally expensive | 02:03 |
| cjwatson | StevenHarperUK: info gettext | 02:03 |
| pitti | cjwatson: understood, thanks | 02:03 |
| laga | cjwatson: ok, where can i translate it then? i've got the source here but you said it was handled in launchpad | 02:03 |
| cjwatson | laga: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/ubiquity/+pots/ubiquity | 02:04 |
| cjwatson | laga: actually, cancel that | 02:04 |
| pitti | \sh: uploaded | 02:04 |
| \sh | pitti, thx | 02:04 |
| cjwatson | laga: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/debian-installer/+pots/debian-installer is what you actually want to translate | 02:04 |
| cjwatson | it's a combined set including translations of the whole installer, not just ubiquity | 02:05 |
| laga | cjwatson: thanks a lot! | 02:05 |
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| StevenHarperUK | I want to make my own Project that is a python GTK app use the Proper Ubuntu Multi lingual implementation instead of my own XML effort | 02:08 |
| StevenHarperUK | mine works, but I want to use Launchpad to get Translations | 02:08 |
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| laga | hum. | 02:08 |
| laga | StevenHarperUK: for mythbuntu-control-centre, we just ripped the translation stuff out of restricted-manager | 02:09 |
| laga | StevenHarperUK: you need the Makefile, AFAIK, and then you add the files which need to be translated to po/POTFILES.in | 02:09 |
| laga | i'm not sure how to upload translations to launchpad, though :) | 02:10 |
| StevenHarperUK | How are these used in Python thou : I need some sample code, the art example has no actual python code | 02:11 |
| laga | check the source of restricted-manager or mythbuntu-control-centre (only aailable in gutsy) | 02:11 |
| StevenHarperUK | you have a URL for the source? | 02:12 |
| laga | StevenHarperUK: BTW, this assumes you're using glade | 02:12 |
| cjwatson | xgettext knows how to extract translatable strings from python source so it should work as it would for C code | 02:12 |
| cjwatson | see info gettext | 02:12 |
| cjwatson | (or indeed xgettext can extract from glade files too) | 02:12 |
| StevenHarperUK | My text is already in an XML file | 02:13 |
| StevenHarperUK | I want to switch to the po method | 02:13 |
| laga | StevenHarperUK: are you using glade? | 02:13 |
| cjwatson | then use the appropriate tool to extract strings to a .pot file | 02:13 |
| cjwatson | if the XML file is useful for something else, keep it and extract the strings in a makefile; if not, junk it and keep the generated .pot file | 02:14 |
| StevenHarperUK | I dont use make | 02:14 |
| StevenHarperUK | I use debtools to make by debs | 02:14 |
| cjwatson | that's usually a mistake | 02:14 |
| StevenHarperUK | its python its all different | 02:14 |
| cjwatson | note that debian/rules is a makefile | 02:14 |
| geser | doko: I rebuild pdftk and it still has the same problem | 02:15 |
| laga | StevenHarperUK: are you using glade? *sigh* | 02:15 |
| StevenHarperUK | Ill find a Current python project that uses these (resricted-manager) and have a crawl over it | 02:15 |
| StevenHarperUK | no *sign* | 02:15 |
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| cjwatson | pitti,evand: I've fixed the Gobuntu desktop seed to include gobuntu-desktop | 02:19 |
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| pitti | cjwatson: thanks | 02:22 |
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| doko | geser: yes, afaik it needs some work | 02:24 |
| geser | doko: is the problem in pdftk or in gcj-4.2? or somewhere else? | 02:26 |
| doko | geser: pdftk, hot it is built | 02:27 |
| pitti | ajmitch: can mono sensibly be built against libgda3 instead of 2? it's the only remaining rdependency | 02:28 |
| pitti | ajmitch: and IIRC previous mono versions did not build against it (since libgda2 was once in component-mismatches for demotion) | 02:29 |
| ajmitch | pitti: afaict the use of libgda in mono is in a not-very-maintained System.Data provider | 02:29 |
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| ajmitch | so I don't know if that code is even useful, or used at all :) | 02:30 |
| pitti | ajmitch: just asking because libgda2 now appears in component-mismatches again, so it would be nice to change that to libgda3 or drop it | 02:30 |
| tahorg | hi, is there a timeline for fixing xen in gutsy amd64 ? | 02:30 |
| ajmitch | I can try & look at it in the morning | 02:30 |
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| Kopfgeldjaeger | hi | 02:31 |
| pitti | ajmitch: thanks | 02:31 |
| ajmitch | along with that samba update I was doing before they released 3.0.26 to fix a security problem | 02:32 |
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| ajmitch | which I'll need another UVF exception for, I guess :) | 02:32 |
| pitti | ajmitch: see my current post to u-devel@ :) | 02:35 |
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| ajmitch | pitti: I don't see any recent post | 02:37 |
| pitti | erk, yes, I just saw that my local mailq is full of stuff | 02:37 |
| pitti | I guess my SSL certificate expired, or so | 02:37 |
| === pitti grumpily drops everything else and fixes it | ||
| ajmitch | oops :) | 02:38 |
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| \sh | pitti, bug 139569 ready for review and security upload...dapper/edgy/feisty debdiffs attached :) thx :) | 02:46 |
| ubotu | Bug 139569 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/139569 is private | 02:46 |
| pitti | \sh: hm, any reason not to make it public? it's a published issue after all | 02:47 |
| ajmitch | pitti: what was in this important mail to u-devel? :) | 02:47 |
| \sh | pitti, aeh...It's default when selecting "Security Bug" ;-) | 02:47 |
| pitti | ajmitch: dropping UVF, hang on, still scp'ing SSL keys around and refreshing :) | 02:48 |
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| ajmitch | alright.. | 02:48 |
| evand | thanks cjwatson | 02:48 |
| \sh | bug 139569 <test> | 02:48 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 139569 in quagga "quagga in dapper/edgy/feisty are vulnerable to malformed community string in bgpd" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139569 | 02:48 |
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| \sh | pitti, changed :) | 02:48 |
| === ajmitch is glad that the samba issue only affects 3.0.25, which is only in gutsy | ||
| Fujitsu | \sh: Your edgy debdiff is a bit empty. | 02:49 |
| \sh | argl | 02:49 |
| \sh | moment | 02:49 |
| \sh | Fujitsu, now ;) I'm faster then my harddrive | 02:51 |
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| pygi | siretart, will do | 02:55 |
| siretart | pygi: sorry? what will you do? | 02:55 |
| pygi | siretart, look at gutsy-changes for acceptance of cdrtools :) | 02:55 |
| siretart | ;) | 02:56 |
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| pygi | siretart, I'll talk to you about this in sec :) | 02:56 |
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| dholbach | mvo is on planet.ubuntu.com - yay! :) | 02:57 |
| dholbach | mvo_: you need a hackergotchi! | 02:57 |
| LongPointyStick | hackergotchis are overrated | 02:59 |
| LongPointyStick | oh yes, i should change mine. | 02:59 |
| ajmitch | blogs are overrated | 02:59 |
| StevenK | ajmitch: Agreed. | 03:02 |
| LongPointyStick | mneptok: where's that image of the green thing with the pointy stick? | 03:03 |
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| StevenK | pitti: Can I convince you to let virtualbox-ose out of binary NEW? | 03:06 |
| pitti | StevenK: no, because I did that several hours ago already | 03:06 |
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| StevenK | pitti: I see that. Thanks ever so. :-) | 03:07 |
| StevenK | kagou: ^ | 03:07 |
| kagou | StevenK, :p | 03:08 |
| StevenK | pitti: It looks like kaffe builds. You might even be able to convince me to upload it. | 03:08 |
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| pitti | and a package of Toffifee | 03:09 |
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| \sh | hopefully it was the last vmware instance I deployed today...now to the real things | 03:09 |
| StevenK | Mmmm, German beer | 03:10 |
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| ajmitch | StevenK: it'd be worth having the next UDS in germany at that | 03:10 |
| StevenK | pitti: ikvm is the last one - but the current version in Gutsy won't do a rebuild, and the upstream changes between it and the version in Debian are *massive*. | 03:11 |
| StevenK | ajmitch: Indeed. I don't think Germany has had a UDS yet. | 03:11 |
| StevenK | Means I get to brush up on a language I haven't spoken in 14 years | 03:12 |
| ajmitch | doing better than I am then :) | 03:12 |
| \sh | StevenK, an UDS in germany? let's do it in karlsruhe ;) | 03:12 |
| StevenK | \sh: No fair, you're biased. :-P | 03:12 |
| ajmitch | StevenK: ikvm is universe, and I'd say it's rarely used | 03:12 |
| StevenK | ajmitch: Agreed. | 03:12 |
| \sh | I think United Internet , Astaro and other companies who are using opensource will come :) | 03:13 |
| ajmitch | what's the current build problem with it? | 03:13 |
| \sh | StevenK, hmm..then let's do it next year in cameroon...;) | 03:13 |
| StevenK | I'd have to chedk. | 03:13 |
| pygi | siretart, pm ^_^ | 03:13 |
| StevenK | ajmitch: Gimme a minute to polish kaffe. | 03:13 |
| StevenK | polish off | 03:13 |
| ajmitch | no problem | 03:13 |
| StevenK | pitti: Right, build of kaffe finished. Shall I throw it over to the buildds? | 03:13 |
| pitti | StevenK: please! you rock! | 03:14 |
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| ajmitch | apart from the flights | 03:14 |
| ajmitch | & that it'd cost quite a bit :) | 03:15 |
| \sh | short ways for many ubuntu devs ;) | 03:15 |
| StevenK | E: Package mono-classlib-2.0 has no installation candidate | 03:15 |
| ajmitch | aha | 03:15 |
| ajmitch | so just a bad build dependency | 03:16 |
| StevenK | I don't think that's the error I had when I looked at it quite some time ago | 03:16 |
| ajmitch | probably not | 03:16 |
| ajmitch | what arch are you building that on? | 03:16 |
| StevenK | amd64 | 03:16 |
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| StevenK | I am pondering just being naughty and uploading | 03:16 |
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| ajmitch | - Removed obsolete mono-classlib-{1,2}.0 transition packages. | 03:17 |
| ajmitch | from october | 03:17 |
| StevenK | So it should be upgraded anyway | 03:17 |
| === ajmitch thinks that getting a new upstream version in would be less hassle | ||
| StevenK | (ikvm, that is) | 03:17 |
| ajmitch | yep | 03:18 |
| StevenK | pitti: Mind reading ajmitch's and I conversation? I know it's a universe package - do you have any objections to me just uploading it sans UVFe? | 03:18 |
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| StevenK | ajmitch: What does dh_makeclilibs do? | 03:21 |
| StevenK | ajmitch: IE: is it safe to drop, or do I need keep it around? | 03:21 |
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| ajmitch | it does tend to be rather useful, it's the equivalent of dh_makeshlibs | 03:23 |
| ajmitch | if you don't have it, get cli-common-dev | 03:24 |
| StevenK | Which is Build-Depend'd on. | 03:25 |
| StevenK | Right, merge done. | 03:25 |
| === StevenK test builds again | ||
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| ajmitch | aha, finally got pitti's mail | 03:29 |
| ajmitch | pitti: that sounds fairly sensible, especially if motu-uvf agree to the same for universe | 03:31 |
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| StevenK | ajmitch: Right, ikvm builds and installs fine. | 03:35 |
| ajmitch | great | 03:35 |
| StevenK | pitti: +1 from me about the freeze consolidation | 03:36 |
| StevenK | ajmitch: So, should I upload this thing? :-) | 03:36 |
| ajmitch | sure, why not? | 03:36 |
| StevenK | Because I don't have a UVFe... | 03:37 |
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| ajmitch | for universe, though you're on the uvf team? :) | 03:37 |
| StevenK | Requires two acks. :-P | 03:37 |
| ajmitch | we were a bit more relaxed about it for edgy & feisty when it warranted it :) | 03:37 |
| pitti | StevenK: ikvm> fine for me, if you are know what you are doing | 03:38 |
| ajmitch | soren should be alive still | 03:38 |
| pitti | s/you are/you/ | 03:38 |
| StevenK | pitti: Mmmm. It's uploading. | 03:39 |
| StevenK | pitti: Hopefully, in one publisher run, we can kill ecj-bootstrap{,-gcj} | 03:40 |
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| pitti | ajmitch: when you are going to touch samba anyway, do you think you could take a look at bug #139265? | 03:44 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 139265 in samba "localized pam == no samba password changing" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139265 | 03:44 |
| ajmitch | sure | 03:44 |
| pitti | ajmitch: I expect it's adding a LC_MESSAGES=C environment to the passwd call, or unset LANG/LC_ALL/etc. | 03:44 |
| ajmitch | yeah, I read the bug report earlier | 03:45 |
| ajmitch | I'd better sleep now though, almost 2 | 03:46 |
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| pitti | ajmitch: thanks, good night! | 03:47 |
| ajmitch | night | 03:47 |
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| mathiaz | ajmitch: night ! | 03:48 |
| cjwatson | ajmitch: if you do it by setting LC_MESSAGES then you should unset LC_ALL too; otherwise setting LC_ALL would also work (but might have other consequences) | 03:49 |
| cjwatson | apologies if I'm preaching to the choir | 03:49 |
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| EtienneG | pitti, is 6.06.2 still on track for the 21st ? | 03:53 |
| mathiaz | pitti: it seems that apparmor has not been published on archive.u.c | 03:53 |
| pitti | EtienneG: no, unfortunately not, there have been delays in the kernel fixes | 03:54 |
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| StevenK | Mmmm, 6.06.2 | 03:54 |
| EtienneG | pitti, have a new release date been announced ? (if yes, maybe https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/ubuntu-6.06.2 should be updated) | 03:55 |
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| norsetto | I see something strange in the archive, apparently the viewcvs binary is produced by two sources (viewcvs and viewvc) so I guess the older one is obsolete and should be removed? | 04:06 |
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| RainCT | hi | 04:07 |
| RainCT | why doesn't update-manager show that 7.10 is available (with -d) if you run it with sudo? | 04:08 |
| pitti | norsetto: right, viewvc replaces viewcvs | 04:08 |
| mvo_ | RainCT: do you run it with sudo or without? | 04:08 |
| RainCT | without it works, but with sudo it says nothing about the update (using -d on both) | 04:08 |
| LongPointyStick | pitti: interesting mail. | 04:09 |
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| norsetto | pitti: ok; I got confused as I just pactched a bug in viewcvs and it got rejected :-) should I file a remove bug? | 04:09 |
| pitti | norsetto: please, so that we have documentation for it; someone just pointed it out this morning | 04:10 |
| norsetto | pitti: will do, thx | 04:10 |
| mvo_ | RainCT: that sounds like bug #127263 | 04:10 |
| geser | RainCT: does it also happen with "sudo -- update-manager -d"? | 04:10 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 127263 in update-manager "update-manager cannot find meta-release info" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127263 | 04:10 |
| mathiaz | mvo_: yesterday I asked someone in ubuntu-server to try to use do-release-upgrade -d to upgrade a feisty server to gutsy. But it failed with no distribution found in the meta file (something like thhat). | 04:10 |
| mvo_ | mathiaz: with or without sudo? | 04:10 |
| mathiaz | mvo_: with sudo | 04:10 |
| mvo_ | pitti: if you could have a look at #127263 that would be most appreciated, I would like to get it into feisty-proposed | 04:11 |
| mathiaz | mvo_: the command he used was "sudo do-release-upgrade -d" | 04:11 |
| mvo_ | mathiaz: that is probably #127263 as well :/ | 04:11 |
| norsetto | bug 139037 :-) | 04:11 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 139037 in viewcvs "Please remove viewcvs source from Gutsy" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139037 | 04:11 |
| mvo_ | mathiaz: there is a fix, it is hopefully available in -proposed soon | 04:11 |
| RainCT | geser: $ sudo -- update-manager -d usage: sudo -K | -L | -V | -h | -k | -l | -v | 04:11 |
| mathiaz | mvo_: ok. I asked him to install update-manager-core from -updates. | 04:12 |
| mathiaz | mvo_: I'll ask him again later then. | 04:12 |
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| pitti | mvo_: can you please get it fixed in Gutsy? | 04:12 |
| mathiaz | pitti: In the apparmor update, I've renamed libapparmor-dev to libapparmor1-dev, which is the reason why apparmor wasn't published in the archive as of yesterday. | 04:13 |
| mathiaz | pitti: libapparmor1-dev was waiting in NEW. | 04:13 |
| pitti | mathiaz: right, but kees named it back | 04:13 |
| pitti | mathiaz: so I rejected libaparmor1-dev | 04:13 |
| pitti | apparmor | 2.1+961-0ubuntu3 | gutsy | source, amd64, i386, powerpc | 04:13 |
| mathiaz | pitti: yes. But as of now, it won't build correctly. | 04:13 |
| pitti | and 0ubuntu3 is there | 04:13 |
| mathiaz | pitti: The reason I renamed it was that I tried to follow the library guide | 04:14 |
| pitti | mathiaz: but usually, -dev packages shuold not have a soname | 04:14 |
| mathiaz | pitti: and according the command given there to figure out the name of -dev, it should be libapparmor1-dev | 04:14 |
| pitti | mathiaz: not unless you actually want to support several sonames in parallel, which doesn't seem appropriate for apparmor | 04:14 |
| mathiaz | pitti: beside the fact that lintian emits a warning when building the package. | 04:14 |
| mvo_ | pitti: its fixed in gutsy with the 0.72 upload, I updated the bugstats | 04:15 |
| pitti | mathiaz: i. e. it does make sense to have libqt3-dev and libqt4-dev, because we want them in parallel | 04:15 |
| pitti | mvo_: just saw it; weird that LP didn't close the task | 04:15 |
| mathiaz | pitti: so I renamed to libapparmor1-dev and provided libapparmor-dev and conflict libapparmor-dev. | 04:15 |
| mathiaz | pitti: ok. So it's better to keep libapparmor-dev. | 04:16 |
| pitti | mathiaz: weird that lintian complains about it | 04:16 |
| mathiaz | pitti: The warning is the reason why I looked into renaming it. | 04:16 |
| pitti | I don't remember getting this for libpq-dev | 04:16 |
| pitti | in fact I don't, right | 04:17 |
| mathiaz | pitti: I'll try to rebuild it and see if I still get the warning. | 04:17 |
| mathiaz | pitti: but as of now, libapparmor-dev is emtpy... | 04:18 |
| pitti | mathiaz: hm, that *is* a bug indeed :) | 04:18 |
| mathiaz | pitti: (and it's not on http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/apparmor/) | 04:18 |
| pitti | mvo_: I'd rather have it intercept OSError than Exception, but *shrug* | 04:18 |
| pitti | libapparmor-dev | 2.1+961-0ubuntu3 | gutsy | amd64, i386, powerpc | 04:19 |
| pitti | mathiaz: ^ hmm | 04:19 |
| pitti | indeed, WTH? | 04:19 |
| pitti | it is on drescher | 04:19 |
| pitti | might be a mirroring problem | 04:19 |
| pitti | mvo_: out of interest, why does that code exist twice? | 04:20 |
| mvo_ | pitti: it does not, debdiff shows it two times, one is a symlink | 04:20 |
| alex-weej | GTK+ 2.12 GOGOGOGOGOgogogogogog | 04:21 |
| mvo_ | pitti: update-manager and the release-uprader share this code to get meta-release information but in order to be able to ship updated versions the release upgrader has its own "copy" | 04:21 |
| mvo_ | pitti: I'm fine with changing it to OSError if you prefer that | 04:22 |
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| pitti | mvo_: it's just a bit more robust, but it's just nitpicking | 04:27 |
| soren | ajmitch: hm? | 04:29 |
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| pitti | mvo_: so, fine for me | 04:29 |
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| alex-weej | is it too late to make changes to the desktop-effects UI so that we can add warnings about failing GLX and stuff? | 04:31 |
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| mvo_ | pitti: thanks, uploaded | 04:32 |
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| zul | hi sabdfl | 04:37 |
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| mathiaz | keescook: I've fixed libapparmor-dev build for the apparmor packages. | 04:39 |
| mathiaz | keescook: I've pushed the changes in my branch. | 04:39 |
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| pitti | mvo_: accepted/bug updated | 04:41 |
| mvo_ | pitti: cool, thanks! | 04:42 |
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| === pitti radiates hate towards yada | ||
| Hobbsee | hehe | 04:51 |
| Hobbsee | pitti: just remove it. | 04:51 |
| pitti | Hobbsee: just doing the last rebuilds for Maintainer: foo, and the last four packages hate me (which don't unpack/edit/debuild -S) | 04:52 |
| StevenK | pitti: There's only one more package in main that needs yada | 04:52 |
| pitti | yeah, I'm doing universe | 04:52 |
| StevenK | Except that infinity is ignoring me | 04:52 |
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| === Hobbsee would suggets uploading it anyway, then. | ||
| Hobbsee | how long has he had? | 04:53 |
| StevenK | Since before FF, I think | 04:53 |
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| StevenK | I last touched the changelog on the 8th of August | 04:54 |
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| StevenK | So, 5 weeks, give or take | 04:55 |
| StevenK | pitti: Can you twist his arm? :-) | 04:55 |
| === pitti reminds StevenK that he is *much* closer to infinity than pitti | ||
| StevenK | pitti: I'd really really like yada in universe for Gutsy. Well, actually, I'd prefer it out of the archive, but ... | 04:55 |
| StevenK | Yeah, but Melbourne sucks | 04:56 |
| pitti | StevenK: so why don't just upload your's? | 04:56 |
| Hobbsee | ew, melbourne. | 04:56 |
| === Hobbsee goes and kills all the melbournites off. | ||
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| === Hobbsee checks for Fujitsu | ||
| Hobbsee | oh, whoops. | 04:56 |
| StevenK | Because I'm waiting for feedback from infinity. And he had some good points the first time he looked. | 04:56 |
| === StevenK shivers. | ||
| StevenK | I just read the debdiff. I had forgotten how *evil* the yada generated rules file is | 04:58 |
| Hobbsee | probably created by a melbournian bar tender. | 05:01 |
| StevenK | No, created by dexter. Much worse. | 05:01 |
| Hobbsee | heh. right. | 05:01 |
| ScottK | Speaking of removing ... Bug #139037 is availalble for doing some archive removing... | 05:02 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 139037 in viewcvs "Please remove viewcvs source from Gutsy" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139037 | 05:02 |
| geser | doko: found the pdftk build problem, it uses some local copies if gcj files: # older versions of libgcj might not have the MD5 algorithm (from # libgcj CVS on March 7, 2004; diffed September 5, 2006 w/ gcc 4.1.1) | 05:03 |
| geser | doko: do you know since when MD5 is in libgcj? | 05:04 |
| pochu | pitti: isn't today your archive day? :) | 05:08 |
| Hobbsee | not that he's admitting to | 05:08 |
| realist | StevenK, Hobbsee; you two are from Sydney I presume? | 05:09 |
| pitti | pochu: yes | 05:09 |
| Hobbsee | realist: no, i'm from antarctica | 05:09 |
| realist | Hobbsee: that's better than Sydney, I suppose ;-) | 05:10 |
| realist | Should've held APEC summit there. | 05:10 |
| pitti | pochu: what do you need to get done? | 05:10 |
| pitti | pochu: I did everything except syncs (sync tool is broken) | 05:10 |
| pochu | woops, it's a sync :-) | 05:10 |
| pochu | But it's not urgent | 05:11 |
| === Hobbsee is a penguin. | ||
| Hobbsee | realist: but yeah, i am in sydney. apec in antarctica, or even canberra would be great. | 05:13 |
| pochu | pitti: oh if you can take a look at bug 137990 | 05:13 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 137990 in liferea "New upstream release 1.4.2" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137990 | 05:13 |
| StevenK | APEC is all over, there's no point complaining about it | 05:13 |
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| realist | I wasn't complaining. I'm in Melbourne :-) | 05:14 |
| Hobbsee | then you suck. | 05:15 |
| Hobbsee | why would anyone want to live in melbourne anyway? :) | 05:15 |
| realist | Melbourne > Sydney | 05:17 |
| Hobbsee | in your dreams, perhaps | 05:19 |
| keescook | cjwatson: yup, that does need fixing. I'll get on it. | 05:19 |
| pitti | keescook: good morning! | 05:20 |
| pitti | keescook: ajmitch also agreed to look into the samba locale issue | 05:20 |
| keescook | pitti: ah, okay, I will let ajmitch handle it then, since he is more familiar with samba. | 05:21 |
| keescook | is bazaar.l.n having issues? I can't seem to merge some branches. | 05:21 |
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| pitti | pochu: done, bug updated (approved) | 05:25 |
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| pochu | pitti: thanks a lot | 05:30 |
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| ScottK | pitti: syncpacakge isn't a great fan of "-" in the upstream version either. I could probably do some work to modernize the script. Do you feel it would be a worthwhile effort? | 05:40 |
| pitti | ScottK: sure, it seems useful at times like this | 05:42 |
| pitti | ScottK: I guess with rmadison and dget around it could also get a whole lot simpler | 05:42 |
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| ScottK | Right. Well there's rewrite the whole thing and then there's make it work in a few corner cases it has trouble with. I'm a lot more likely to have time for the latter. | 05:44 |
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| pitti | ScottK: or bug me to do it myself :) | 05:45 |
| pitti | if it's blocking people's work, it's a good excuse for me to fix it | 05:46 |
| ScottK | Sure. Once you see my code, you'll be motivated for a complete rewrite. | 05:46 |
| ScottK | So far lines after the Files: lines and"-" in the upstream version are the problems I've hit. | 05:47 |
| ScottK | I just commented out the smarts for that case and set stuff to what it needed to be. | 05:47 |
| ScottK | It should be easy enough to deal with those issues generally though. | 05:47 |
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| Nafallo | win 1 | 05:49 |
| soren | lose 2 | 05:49 |
| bddebian | Heya | 05:50 |
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| ScottK2 | pitti: Here is, I think, a workable solution for syncpackage to lines coming after the Files section in .dsc (it seemed to work for me): http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/37435/ | 06:05 |
| pitti | ScottK: hm, maybe "if not l[0] .isspace()"? | 06:06 |
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| ScottK | pitti: Not sure. It seems that running out of things ending in .gz is a reasonably reliable way to know you're out of the Files: section. I don't know enough about what one might expect to see in a .dsc to really know. | 06:11 |
| Keybuk | getting a picture from my phone to my desktop is annoyingly difficult | 06:12 |
| pitti | ScottK: it's a multi-line, i. e. as long as the lines start with spaces, you are still parsing Files: | 06:12 |
| ScottK | Right. | 06:12 |
| pitti | ScottK: i. e. until you either hit EOL or a line with a non-space in the first column | 06:12 |
| Keybuk | I had a Python dsc parser somewhere | 06:12 |
| ScottK | That makes sense. | 06:12 |
| Mithrandir | Keybuk: right click bluetooth icon, choose "browse device", choose phone, copy files? | 06:13 |
| Keybuk | Mithrandir: desktop doesn't have bluetooth | 06:13 |
| Mithrandir | Keybuk: does too | 06:13 |
| Mithrandir | oh, your desktop doesn't | 06:13 |
| Mithrandir | -desktop does. :-) | 06:13 |
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| Keybuk | it's not very common in desktop computers | 06:13 |
| Mithrandir | USB BT adapters cost about about two pence. | 06:13 |
| ScottK | pitti: That works too. I do agree it's better. | 06:14 |
| Mithrandir | ok, more like ten or twenty quid, but still not very expensive | 06:14 |
| Spads | and the security violations bluetooth allows are priceless | 06:14 |
| pitti | oh, wow | 06:14 |
| Keybuk | Mithrandir: I have a USB cable | 06:14 |
| Keybuk | but it's about 2 metres away | 06:14 |
| Keybuk | therefore annoying | 06:14 |
| pitti | I just sticked in my BT dongle, and hey, Gnome *did* something | 06:14 |
| Mithrandir | pitti: yes, it gives you the ability to, like, browse your phone. | 06:14 |
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| Mithrandir | Spads: apart from all the fun bits of broken implementations, you mean? | 06:14 |
| geser | pitti, ScottK2: isn't l[2] the second char in l? I guess that's not what you want | 06:15 |
| pitti | obex://[00:16:bc:04:c8:a1] is not a valid place | 06:15 |
| pitti | hmm | 06:15 |
| cjwatson | Keybuk: you might have to get out of your chair | 06:15 |
| cjwatson | geser: l[2] is the third character | 06:15 |
| Keybuk | cjwatson: I'm trying my phone's e-mail ability to see whether that works <g> | 06:15 |
| pitti | I am supposed to check the spelling of my bt addresses? :) | 06:15 |
| wasabi | Hmm. I'd agree that it's not common, but it will be. | 06:16 |
| wasabi | Every MS wireless mouse we have in the office uses bluetooth now... and all the Compaq's you can buy come with it. | 06:16 |
| geser | cjwatson: yes, you are right, but it's still not what ScottK wants | 06:16 |
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| Mithrandir | pitti: is gnome-vfs-obexftp installed? | 06:17 |
| cjwatson | indeed | 06:17 |
| pitti | something is missing, though, my phone can't associate with my desktop, and neither the other way round | 06:17 |
| ScottK | geser: It's actually the third item in the list l in this case. | 06:17 |
| pitti | Mithrandir: that did the trick, thanks | 06:18 |
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| Keybuk | cjwatson: my chair has wheels ... *wheee* | 06:18 |
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| pitti | wow, that's, like, MAGIC :) | 06:18 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 06:18 |
| Mithrandir | pitti: care to add that to -desktop's recommends too? | 06:18 |
| Hobbsee | welcome to 2007, pitti :P | 06:18 |
| geser | ScottK: but l is still the whole line at this place, you get a list of tokens after the l.split() | 06:19 |
| pitti | Hobbsee: last time I tried that it wasn't possible in gnome yet (maybe a year ago) | 06:19 |
| pitti | Mithrandir: 75.2 kB, that doesn't sound too bad | 06:19 |
| Hobbsee | pitti: ahh. works just fine on kde. | 06:19 |
| Mithrandir | pitti: it needs mainification, but that shouldn't be too bad either. | 06:20 |
| Hobbsee | wouldnt know about your variant, though | 06:20 |
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| ScottK | geser: I don't think so, but I have to run. I'm sure pitti will get it sorted | 06:21 |
| pitti | mvo_: I clicked on a .mid file on my cellphone obex browser, and it offers me to install kmid; yay easy-codec-installation :) | 06:21 |
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| bdmurray | pitti: Does restricted-manager always ask you to restart after installing a new X driver? I noticed the restart dialog on Feisty last night. | 06:37 |
| pitti | bdmurray: after enabling nvidia/ati, yes | 06:37 |
| pitti | bdmurray: we don't have a convenient method to restart only X, except for Ctrl+Alt+Backspace | 06:37 |
| pitti | (but I don't want to recommend that, since it kills your apps without asking for saving, etc.) | 06:38 |
| bdmurray | pitti: Hrm, but if somebody wanted to test Compiz on the Live CD . . . | 06:38 |
| pitti | bdmurray: logging out and back in doesn't suffice (at least for me), ctrl+alt+backspace does the trick, though | 06:39 |
| superm1 | pitti, is there no nice signal you can issue to gdm to restart? | 06:40 |
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| bdmurray | pitti: Right - but if somebody is told to reboot after installing the proprietary driver when running the Live CD. They'll reboot and need to install it again. | 06:40 |
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| pitti | superm1: you can call the init script, sure | 06:43 |
| superm1 | pitti, so why not offer the person to restart the session that route (only when in live mode)? | 06:43 |
| pitti | bdmurray: right; the rebooting is easily available from update-notifier, so I used that | 06:43 |
| pitti | superm1: that applies equally to the installed system, I think | 06:43 |
| superm1 | i guess you would still need to have it rmmod the radeon kernel module though | 06:44 |
| superm1 | if its loaded | 06:44 |
| pitti | no, rmmod is out of the question, that wreaks havoc | 06:45 |
| pitti | disabling can only safely happen with a reboot, but enabling can happen with a gdm restart | 06:45 |
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| alex-weej | anyone have any idea when gtk 2.12 will be uploaded? | 06:57 |
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| geser | alex-weej: I wouldn't expect it before monday and as seb128 is on vacation (afaik) this may take a while longer | 07:00 |
| lamont | bug 139534 even | 07:00 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 139534 in palo "Please sync palo (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139534 | 07:00 |
| alex-weej | geser: oh panties :( ok thanks | 07:00 |
| alex-weej | broken tooltips are driving me up the wall! :P | 07:00 |
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| Mithrandir | lamont: sync-source is b0rked atm, so not in a bit | 07:06 |
| DrakeJustice | somebody point me at a guide for usplash generation in gutsy, plz? | 07:07 |
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| DrakeJustice | ! | 07:07 |
| lamont | Mithrandir: ah, ok. I'll just shove 1.15.hppa99 into my repo then. | 07:07 |
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| keescook | pitti: but if they reboot a livecd, won't they just be back to needing to enable the proprietary driver again? (i.e. there is no way to enable a proprietary driver via the liveCD) | 07:13 |
| bdmurray | keescook: Isn't that what I said? | 07:14 |
| pitti | keescook: as we said, you need to restart gdm | 07:14 |
| keescook | bdmurray: yeah, I thought it wasn't understood. pitti: right, I understand what needs to happen, but I'm saying a non-techie may not understand. | 07:15 |
| lamont | hrm... slapd and racoon both need to be taught lsb boot messages | 07:15 |
| bdmurray | l/win 5 | 07:16 |
| Keybuk | l/lose 10 | 07:19 |
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| bdmurray | gah! I'm down 5 it seems | 07:20 |
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| Lure | pitti: UVFe submitted 139652 | 07:27 |
| Lure | pitti: bug 139652 | 07:27 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 139652 in libgphoto2 "UVF exception 2.3.1 -> 2.4.0" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139652 | 07:27 |
| pitti | Lure: sorry, I have to run now | 07:27 |
| pitti | darn, I lost track of time | 07:27 |
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| pygi | siretart, do you have a few seconds? | 07:42 |
| ogra | Amaranth, ping ... | 07:42 |
| Amaranth | ogra: pong | 07:43 |
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| ogra | Amaranth, mind joining #ltsp for a second ? | 07:44 |
| ogra | we have a user there who desparately wants to get compiz on ltsp and it seems we cant get it working for him | 07:44 |
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| === Topic for #ubuntu-devel: Development of Ubuntu (not support, even with gutsy; not application development on Ubuntu) | #ubuntu for support and general discussion for dapper/edgy/feisty, #ubuntu+1 for gutsy support | #ubuntu-motu for getting involved in development | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs | UVF in place | Tribe 5 out | ||
| === Topic (#ubuntu-devel): set by thom at Fri Sep 7 17:15:10 2007 | ||
| LaserJock | keescook: got a minute? | 10:11 |
| keescook | LaserJock: sure, though I may be distracted by things. :) what's up? | 10:13 |
| LaserJock | keescook: I'm trying to figure out how to read search results from http://cve.mitre.org/ | 10:14 |
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| LaserJock | keescook: I'm working on a MIR so I did a search on the app | 10:14 |
| LaserJock | and I got 36 results | 10:14 |
| keescook | heh. | 10:14 |
| LaserJock | but I'm trying to figure out how to figure what applies to the version we have, etc. | 10:14 |
| keescook | what's the package? (or rather, what is the search URL you ended up on?) | 10:14 |
| LaserJock | http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=moodle | 10:15 |
| keescook | That tends to be the "art" to dealing with CVE -- they're not always correct, and sometimes they don't have version info at all. | 10:15 |
| keescook | ah, yes, moodle. | 10:15 |
| LaserJock | we have version 1.8.2 btw | 10:15 |
| keescook | yeah, there is a lot to dig through, and working with moodle's changelogs should be the most helpful here. | 10:15 |
| LaserJock | ah, ok | 10:16 |
| manchicken | Hmm... There's something wrong with suspend/resume and powermanagement on these System76 Darters under Gutsy. | 10:16 |
| keescook | the work is to map their fixes to given CVEs | 10:16 |
| keescook | LaserJock: this is what makes an upstream "good" or not when dealing with security fixes -- do they refer to CVEs in changelogs, are they good about splitting out patches, etc. | 10:16 |
| keescook | if they're not, it's a lot of reading code to sort it all out. | 10:17 |
| LaserJock | hmm, first job is to *find* a changelog :/ | 10:18 |
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| keescook | hehe | 10:18 |
| manchicken | At first I thought the power management thing was just KDE, but it seems to be a desktop-independent problem. | 10:18 |
| \sh | LaserJock, did you try the security tracker of debian first? | 10:18 |
| LaserJock | no, where is that? | 10:18 |
| ogra | by the looks of it nost of these CVEs are fro versions like 1.4, 1.5, 1.6 ... | 10:19 |
| ogra | *most | 10:19 |
| LaserJock | keescook: they have a "Moodle Security Center" at least, although it's always worrying that they've got so many problems they have a whole center for it ;-) | 10:19 |
| ogra | very likely they are fixed .... just find the proof ... | 10:20 |
| LaserJock | ogra: yeah, I just want to make sure they are *fixed* | 10:20 |
| \sh | LaserJock, http://security-tracker.debian.net/tracker/ | 10:20 |
| LaserJock | \sh: ahh, that is nice | 10:20 |
| LaserJock | oh, that rocks! | 10:21 |
| \sh | LaserJock, well, it needs a bug in the dbts to be listed but it helps us in the moment | 10:21 |
| \sh | it helps me ;) | 10:22 |
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| LaserJock | it has a bunch of the moodle CVEs and tells you what version they were fixed in | 10:22 |
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| LaserJock | ok, all the CVEs on Debian are fixed in our version | 10:25 |
| LaserJock | *phew* | 10:25 |
| keescook | sweet | 10:25 |
| LaserJock | it looks like 1.6 was a bad time in moodle history ;-) | 10:25 |
| LaserJock | or rather <1.6 | 10:25 |
| ogra | yeah | 10:26 |
| === ogra reviewed 1.6 back in breezy iirc | ||
| ogra | or 1.5 | 10:26 |
| ogra | it was horror | 10:26 |
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| \sh | LaserJock, tbh...most of the things where a patch is available is already in ubuntu, or is fixed in no time from pitti and kees...so ubuntu is very safe (passive meaning) and secure (active meaning)... | 10:27 |
| \sh | LaserJock, and thx to debian ... | 10:27 |
| ogra | \sh, yeah, we're just checking if keescook or pitti are slacking :P | 10:27 |
| \sh | ogra, oh...I think pitti and kees are having fun sometimes ;) | 10:27 |
| ogra | yeah :) | 10:28 |
| \sh | and checking 3 distros at one time sometimes, it's nasty :) | 10:28 |
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| \sh | cherry picking patches is also no fun at all (tm) ;) | 10:28 |
| keescook | hehe | 10:29 |
| \sh | keescook: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=441433 have fun ;) and celebrate ,-) | 10:32 |
| ubotu | Debian bug 441433 in php5 "CVE-2007-3806, CVE-2007-2519 and CVE-2007-3799" [Important,Open] | 10:32 |
| \sh | keescook, it looks like that 5.2.4 is fixing most of the crap | 10:33 |
| \sh | oh no...they fixed the CVEs from 5.2.2. ;) | 10:34 |
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| keescook | \sh: yay for php. :) | 10:43 |
| \sh | keescook, oh wonder...5.2.4. is fixing some new CVEs (CVE-2007-3806 e.g.) | 10:48 |
| \sh | but it's also correcting fixes for old CVEs ;) | 10:49 |
| keescook | \sh: yeah, I'm going to sort those out. seanius (debian maintainer) and I have back-ported various CVEs as they've come up prior to 5.2.4 getting released, so I need to sort through them. | 10:50 |
| geser | \sh: the last firebird2.0 in Debian unstable fixed 7 CVEs. Luckily for keescook and pitti firebird2.0 is in universe (and only since gutsy) | 10:52 |
| === \sh thinks he needs to switch from php to python and django | ||
| \sh | geser, yeah I saw it ;) Just lurking on the debian security tracker ;) | 10:54 |
| mathiaz | keescook: bug 139683 | 10:55 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 139683 in apparmor "package apparmor-utils 2.1+961-0ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139683 | 10:55 |
| geser | django is cool, but look also on turbogears which is also quite nice (I use it currently for a project at work) | 10:55 |
| mathiaz | keescook: I think this is because the kernel was upgraded at the same time as the apparmor packages, but since it's not running the new module yet, apparmor fails to reload. | 10:55 |
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| keescook | mathiaz: ah, right, you dropped the error handlers... | 10:59 |
| mathiaz | keescook: so we could ignore a failed reload on an upgrade ? | 11:00 |
| keescook | the only way I know of is with the error handlers. | 11:00 |
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| keescook | mathiaz: can you add those back in, but change the text to say something about needing to check that the "apparmor" kernel module is loaded instead of the m-a goo it had before? | 11:02 |
| mathiaz | keescook: sure. | 11:03 |
| mathiaz | keescook: are you sure --no-restart-on-upgrade DTRT for the postinst script ? | 11:05 |
| keescook | mathiaz: yes, I tested that. It basically only does a "stop" on a "remove", not an "upgrade". | 11:05 |
| keescook | but it does still attempt a "start" on configure (which we want), and I manually added a "reload" after the 'start' in the case of it needing a reload (start when already started just skips doing anything) | 11:06 |
| mathiaz | keescook: yes.. I understand now. I was just looking at the postinst script. | 11:07 |
| mathiaz | keescook: prerm does the right thing. | 11:07 |
| keescook | cool. It seems the error handler for the postinst just needs to catch the "start" failing. (And perhaps we should adjust the "reload" call to be "|| true" just to be safe? | 11:08 |
| mathiaz | keescook: I've used --error-handler=true | 11:08 |
| mathiaz | keescook: in another package I fixed. | 11:09 |
| keescook | hah! that's good. :) | 11:10 |
| mathiaz | keescook: should we just fix the postinst script ? | 11:11 |
| mathiaz | keescook: I think that --error-handler=true will have an impact on all maintainer sripts. | 11:12 |
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| mathiaz | keescook: hum.. it won't work since dh_installinit doesn't handled the reload call. | 11:15 |
| keescook | mathiaz: it'll work for the "start", but the "reload" will need it fixed manually | 11:15 |
| mathiaz | keescook: --error-handler will also modify prerm script. | 11:17 |
| keescook | I think that's fine. | 11:17 |
| keescook | (that's the way I had it before) | 11:18 |
| mathiaz | keescook: that's the diff: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37447/ | 11:19 |
| keescook | mathiaz: looks good. you want me to add it, or is this in your bzr already? | 11:20 |
| mathiaz | keescook: it will be in my bzr tree in a couple of minutes | 11:20 |
| mathiaz | keescook: pushed. | 11:21 |
| mathiaz | keescook: there is also another change: ignore .dpkg-dist files when loading profiles. | 11:22 |
| keescook | ah! good, yes. | 11:23 |
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