[12:33] geser: cool [12:34] ajmitch: true, true. === bigon [i=bigon@ubuntu/member/bigon] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:35] ajmitch: some, im waiting on a few to be released but they havent been pushed from new yet about a week or so [12:35] gnomefreak: binary NEW? === BenC_ [n=bcollins@collinsap1.phunnypharm.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:36] https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+queue [12:36] think that is source or both as i have seen binaries in there === astro76 [n=james@unaffiliated/astro76] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:37] gnomefreak: it's very selective right now [12:37] gnomefreak: Both. === rnorwood [n=rnorwood@adsl-074-167-242-127.sip.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:37] open sync request aren't also processed for over a week now (my oldest one is one week old) [12:38] pitti will process them tomorrow [12:38] good to hear === BenC_ [n=bcollins@collinsap1.phunnypharm.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:39] them being released isnt such a big deal since i can build and install but just commenting from above ;) [12:39] hm [12:40] i thought 1 failure to build on an arch stopped all binaries from release [12:40] then we'd never get anything done :) [12:40] i see amd64 not built yet or failed and 386 .debs are in repos [12:40] or less archs [12:40] ajmitch: good point === mpt [n=mpt@n219076093048.netvigator.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:41] gnomefreak: you don't need to rebuild packages in bin-NEW on your own, looks like you can fetch the deb manually from the queue [12:42] i dont see .debs for it [12:42] how do i tell if its ftb or not? [12:43] without loooking through all 3300 ftbs [12:44] nvm [12:44] found it [12:48] gnomefreak: goto https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+queue, expand the one you want and you will find links to the debs [12:48] geser: nope it hasnt been pushed to farm yet [12:51] gnomefreak: which package are you interested in? [12:51] amarok2 [12:51] i found koffice2 in repos for 386 [12:51] ah, it's in source-NEW [12:52] yes thats the only NEW i know of [12:52] so it didn't reach the buildds yet [12:52] looks like it [12:53] each packages does through the NEW queue twice: one time for the source package and one time for new debs [12:53] ah but same link for both? just the white mark on them means bins are there [12:53] them=icons [12:54] yes, that page lists both types [12:54] when you hover other the icon you get an tooltip saying which type it is [12:55] ah cool ty === jdstrand [n=jamie@mail.strandboge.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ionstorm [n=ion@71-35-60-24.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Keybuk smiles at Mirco's blog [12:59] gotta love geeks [12:59] their first instinct when seeing a fire in their house is to take a picture of it, then put it on their blog [12:59] rather than putting it out [01:01] :-D [01:02] :) [01:02] no livestream? === jml [n=jml@ppp121-44-213-76.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:05] hmpf, still get blank fullscreen when using 3d on nvidia with compiz. and suddenly no decorator again. :P === superm1_ [n=malimonc@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:15] weee kernel oops [01:15] this new kernel is kicking my ass [01:15] wasabi: -11? [01:15] Yeah [01:16] Oh, looks like it's VMware's fault anyways. [01:16] Or, at least, it's RELATED to vmware. === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-103-230.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mc44 [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mc44 [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Exit,] === TheMuso [n=luke@ubuntu/member/themuso] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mpt [n=mpt@n219076093048.netvigator.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:44] gdm is broken there is no menu items xubuntu login screen is fine but default gdm is broken as well as ones i installed === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Kmos [n=gothicx@unaffiliated/kmos] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-85-27-68-188.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ashridah [i=ashridah@zombot.mycronite.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@trider-g7.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Topic for #ubuntu-devel: Development of Ubuntu (not support, even with gutsy; not application development on Ubuntu) | #ubuntu for support and general discussion for dapper/edgy/feisty, #ubuntu+1 for gutsy support | #ubuntu-motu for getting involved in development | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs | UVF in place | Tribe 5 out === Topic (#ubuntu-devel): set by thom at Fri Sep 7 17:15:10 2007 === Pici [n=Pici@unaffiliated/pici] has joined #ubuntu-devel === greeneggsnospam [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hoora40 [i=hoora@gateway/tor/x-a7838fd08781665b] has joined #ubuntu-devel === PawpawYoung [n=young@218.240.129.197] has joined #ubuntu-devel === PawpawYoung [n=young@218.240.129.197] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === jdstrand [n=james@mail.strandboge.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdstrand [n=james@mail.strandboge.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdstrand [n=james@mail.strandboge.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdstrand [n=james@mail.strandboge.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdstrand [n=james@mail.strandboge.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdstrand [n=james@mail.strandboge.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdstrand [n=james@mail.strandboge.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pygi [n=mario@83-131-0-93.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jml [n=jml@ppp121-44-213-76.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === EliasAmaral [n=dark@unaffiliated/EliasAmaral] has joined #ubuntu-devel === djennewe [n=djennewe@216-161-3-185.sxfl.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-devel === predius [n=predius@190.8.154.185] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ionstorm [n=ion@71-35-60-24.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dajhorn [n=chatzill@cpe-76-183-5-187.tx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mpt [n=mpt@219.234.180.201] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Knightlust [n=dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #ubuntu-devel === macd [n=d@cl-151.ewr-01.us.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nags [n=nags@125.16.129.16] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-18-118.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === maikmerten [n=chatzill@ls5appsrv06.cs.uni-dortmund.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === asisak [n=conp@ubuntu/member/coNP] has joined #ubuntu-devel === kagou [n=Patrice@86.69.136.9] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:49] Good morning === marcel [n=marcel@lt3.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === abooker [n=tb@c-67-182-132-72.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === coNP [n=conp@ubuntu/member/coNP] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-devel === coNP_ [n=conp@ubuntu/member/coNP] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:02] NO! [08:02] coNP is an awesome nick === asisak is sorry. [08:02] Hey desrt BTW :) [08:02] i guess one of your branches rejected :( [08:03] hell o:) [08:03] it is time for bed. bye bye === Gasten [n=Gasten@h52n9c1o1095.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-130-103.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:23] Good morning === coNP [n=conp@ubuntu/member/coNP] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@123.115.244.152] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:33] hello pitti === XSource [n=XSource@41.201.202.22] has joined #ubuntu-devel === carlos [n=carlos@canonical/launchpad/carlos] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:37] Morning pitti [08:38] pitti: libboost*1.34.0 can be NBS'd out at your leisure [08:39] yay! === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:50] pitti: In the interests of removing view-cvs (which is now obsolete), I'd appreciate it if you would have a look at Bug 139283 and the resulting binaries after it builds (view-vc has been FTBFS from us since we got it in the spring). Once it's published, I'll have the bug to remove view-cvs to you. [08:50] Launchpad bug 139283 in viewvc "Please sync viewvc (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139283 [08:52] does any KDEish person feel like rebuilding okular against new poppler? [08:54] I tried, it breaks === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.96.84] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:59] doko_: ecj-bootstrap{,-gcj} is NBS, but kaffe builds against it; what is the replacement? [08:59] doko_: oh, and eclipse-gcj, too === thekorn_ [n=thekorn@a89-182-31-8.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:00] StevenK: I guess you already looked at 'sear'? this is the single package that holds back three NBS packages [09:01] StevenK: oh, okular doesn't work with the new poppler API? [09:03] pitti: No, okular just doesn't build at all [09:04] pitti: I'm waiting for Riddell === norsetto [n=Cesare@host218-68-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:04] StevenK: Riddell is on vac, btw [09:04] I know that [09:05] pitti: sear is being dealt with by man-di, he's the Debian maintainer [09:05] StevenK: sorry, sync-source.py got broken === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@e180067140.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === MacSlow [n=mirco@unaffiliated/macslow] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:07] Greetings everybody! [09:07] StevenK: feel free to use http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/scripts/syncpackage to sync viewvc for now [09:08] hey MacSlow! got powah again? [09:10] hey pitti today (friday) is your queue clearing day right?, mind if i bug/remind you again about looking over those two sru bugs? :) [09:10] superm1: which ones? [09:10] If one wished to produce a script that resized the rootfs, is there a particular place one could check out a few distro specifics? [09:10] pitti, bug 134726 bug 134801 [09:10] Launchpad bug 134726 in mythtv "MythTV 0.20.2 SRU " [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134726 [09:10] Launchpad bug 134801 in mythplugins "Mythplugins 0.20.2 SRU " [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134801 [09:10] pitti: Looking. [09:11] superm1: I don't normally look for universe SRU bugs, only when someone actually uploads something to the queue [09:12] pitti, they're both already in proposed, its at the point when they need to be copied to -updates [09:12] superm1: ah, of course I do look for verification-done tags [09:12] superm1: yep, will do that [09:12] thanks [09:12] pitti: Sync viewvc why? [09:13] StevenK: I think he meant me. [09:13] pitti, for the moment yes... and I hope it will stay that way... but then... that's what I thought yesterday morning too... well and yesterday went not that smooth power-wise. [09:13] Ah ha [09:13] ScottK: I did, sorry [09:13] No problem. I'm used to it. [09:13] superm1: I won't copy them to -updates until gutsy is fixed, BTW [09:14] pitti, what do you mean? [09:14] superm1: the gutsy tasks of those bugs are still open [09:14] what's wrong with gutsy? [09:14] pitti: Ah, more things about okular - it's now in kde4graphics, so the okular source package can probably just die, but like I say, I want to talk to Riddell about it [09:14] oh then i labeled the tasks wrong [09:14] they're both resolved in gutsy already [09:14] the version in gutsy is 0.20.2 [09:14] superm1: if those are fixed in gutsy, then please set them to fixreleased [09:14] i'll fix those tasks then [09:14] superm1: ah, I see; thank you! [09:15] pitti, there we go, those should be marked right. it didn't occur to me that the task without a distro label meant gutsy. [09:16] superm1: well, it means 'current development release' [09:16] right === yafeb [n=bfay@ax213-1-82-66-156-47.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:20] Hmm OK, I'll take that as a piss off you script writing kiddie. I apologise for taking up your time. [09:20] pitti: I can fix eclipse, if you wish [09:20] StevenK: oh, you know what the replacement is? [09:20] pitti: Yup, I've done a few [09:21] abooker? [09:21] WTH? [09:21] pitti: ikvm can be fixed, but requires a UVFe. [09:21] pitti: kaffe is then the only one left, and I don't think it builds [09:23] kaffe also hasn't been updated since bofore Etch released [09:23] before, even === MacSlow [n=mirco@unaffiliated/macslow] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:24] pitti: I'm having trouble with your syncpackage script. I have the package locally here. Would it be a problem if I just dput it? === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:24] ScottK: oh, trouble? [09:24] Yes. I'll get you the error. [09:24] ScottK: if you mangled the source.changes for s/unstable/gutsy/, then it should work === ScottK2 [n=kitterma@static-72-81-252-22.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:25] Ah. OK. Let me try than then. [09:25] ScottK: and Origin: debian/unstable [09:26] How did sync-source.py break? [09:26] psycopg.ProgrammingError: ERROR: column "published" does not exist at character 397 === coNP [n=conp@ubuntu/member/coNP] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti looks clueless === StevenK sighs at the band next door, along with their canine accompiment [09:26] pitti: Is there a preferred mangling method (first time I've had to do it)? [09:26] ScottK: what's wrong with the script? [09:27] (Next door's two dogs don't like the band practising, so bark a lot - my dog doesn't seem to mind, which is interesting) [09:27] % diff -urNP ikvm-0.28.0.0 ikvm-0.34.0.2 | diffstat | tail -n 1 [09:27] 181 files changed, 265313 insertions(+), 209945 deletions(-) [09:28] dogs have different tastes in music I guess [09:28] Oh, *wonderful* [09:28] pitti: http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/37392/ [09:28] ScottK: No point even asking, based on that diffstat, right? :-) [09:28] ScottK2: how did you call this? [09:28] It looks like it gets the two files and then keeps going and dies on Python-Version: current [09:29] Getting [09:29] ooh [09:29] ScottK: right, it probably assumes that Files: comes last in the .dsc [09:29] python ../syncpackage http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/v/viewvc/viewvc_1.0.3-2.1.dsc gutsy [09:29] ScottK: which was true those two years ago when I wrote it [09:29] Of course [09:29] pitti: You could use the DSCParser in Linda ... [09:30] doko_, poke? ?^_^ [09:30] Mithrandir, ping [09:31] pitti: Is it looking to find anything other than orig.tar.gz and diff.gz? [09:31] viviersf: iz contentless ping. [09:32] ScottK2: no (except for native packages, etc) [09:32] ScottK2: it should probably just call dget nowadays === ScottK2 looks at the script some more... [09:33] pitti: Agreed, calling dget is much less work. :-) [09:35] pitti: I'm half tempted to not test build eclipse ... Which makes me feel naughty. === dholbach [n=daniel@dslb-088-073-103-230.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:35] Mithrandir, quick question, is there anything different building custom gutsy images than in feisty ? [09:36] good morning [09:36] viviersf: custom ISOs? No, the procedure is the same as it's been since dapper. [09:37] pitti: -3ubuntu2 built fine, and it looks like it will take 2 hours to test build, and all I did was change the Depends line in debian/control. [09:37] StevenK: sounds fine to throw at the buildds... [09:37] Mithrandir, ya like custom distros. okay weird cos my scripts dont work in gutsy anymore. prolly like a kernel change or something :( [09:37] StevenK: even if it FTBFSes, it's not the end of the world [09:37] pitti: Agreed. I don't think it will. [09:38] pitti: Uploaded. [09:39] ScottK: Ping, did you see the diffstat for ikvm? [09:39] pitti: And then I dput it after I run the script, right? [09:39] StevenK: so what did you change the depends to, i. e. what replaces ecj-bootstrap? [09:39] StevenK: I haven't looked. [09:39] ecj-boostrap-gcj -> ecj-gcj [09:39] ScottK: yep [09:39] StevenK: aah [09:39] or I forget. It's lat here. [09:40] ScottK: I can repaste [09:40] viviersf: oh, unionfs is busted at the moment. [09:40] Mithrandir, ah damn! okay that would explain it. Thanks man :) === XSource [n=XSource@41.201.212.20] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:41] pitti: Bug #139283 is done, so you can usubscribe the archive if you care about such things. [09:41] Launchpad bug 139283 in viewvc "Please sync viewvc (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139283 [09:41] pitti: If you've NBS'd out boost, can you remove the lists? [09:42] StevenK: I NBSed some more stuff, so I'll just regenerate the lists [09:42] pitti: Works for me. [09:42] pitti: Also, I've got a stack of sync requests pending. Is there any problem if I just do them all this way? === coNP [n=conp@ubuntu/member/coNP] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:43] StevenK: hm, needs another publisher run [09:43] pitti: I'll bug you in an hour, then. :-) [09:43] ScottK: not really, if you triple-check that the changelog is correct (-v like) [09:43] ScottK: that script more or less just does what sync-source.py is doing [09:44] pitti: OK. Thanks. [09:44] I think I'm going to go to bed now, but I'll attend to it tomorrow if sync-source.py doesn't have a magic recovery in the meantime. === coNP [n=conp@ubuntu/member/coNP] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Demitar [n=demitar@c-212-031-190-120.cust.broadway.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:51] asac: hm. I see. So I wonder if we really shouldn't go back to 0.5.8 for 7.10 === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-103-230.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:53] pitti: When you say triple check the changelog is correct, I'd like to know exactly what you want checked for so I don't mess it up... [09:53] Then I'm really going to bed. [09:54] ScottK: that it mentions the right versions, i. e. all changelogs since the last gutsy version [09:54] ScottK: like what you do with -v for merges [09:54] OK. Got it. Thanks. [09:55] mdke: can we close https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-user-docs/+bug/139064 ? [09:55] Launchpad bug 139064 in gnome-user-docs "Please update gnome-user-docs from bzr" [Undecided,In progress] [09:55] pitti: I enjoyed getting the sylpheed-claes removal bugmail. Thanks. [09:55] Good night all. [09:55] bye ScottK [09:55] Night ScottK. [09:55] claes/claws. [09:55] mdke: did you merge from http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~dholbach/gnome-user-docs/fixes ? [10:06] Keybuk, ping [10:08] pygi: hi [10:08] superm1: oh, sorry, mythplugins needs a proper upload to -updates [10:08] Keybuk, would you be so kind to add me to the code.google.com soc project? Thanks [10:08] pitti, i'm guessing because of the ~proposed1 that was missed? [10:08] superm1: right; mythtv is ok [10:08] superm1: is it ok to copy mythtv without mythplugins? [10:09] yea i thought that might be trouble, wasn't sure if you can correct it before copying [10:09] pitti, i can upload the mythplugins right now if you'd like [10:09] so you can do them both at once [10:09] superm1: no, copying means verbatim copy without any bit of change [10:09] superm1: that would be good [10:09] ah i see [10:09] superm1: what it (more or less) does is to only copy the Packages.gz entry without touching /pool at all [10:09] pygi: err, SoC has ended? [10:10] superm1: (some more db changes in the background, of course, but that's whatit comes down to for users) [10:10] ah i wondered how pockets worked. do i need to upload the orig.gz still too? [10:10] Keybuk, yes, but I meant add me to this so I could upload code: http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code-2007-ubuntu/ [10:10] superm1: nope [10:10] okay that will make these quick uploads === Nicke [n=niclasa@ua-83-227-140-135.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:12] pygi: it does not appear that I can [10:12] pygi: ask doko [10:12] Keybuk, ok, when he's back [10:12] oh, he's here :p [10:12] doko, poke, add me to the project please :) [10:14] pitti, okay those should be up === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:15] pygi: looking ... === phanatic [n=phanatic@dsl54009CE5.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:16] superm1: I'll reject the uploads, you uploaded to -proposed [10:16] pitti, oh i can actually just put them right to -updates then [10:16] calc: bug 135086? mjg59: bug 127273? [10:16] okay whoops :) [10:16] superm1: yep [10:16] Launchpad bug 135086 in unzip "zipgrep: exit code always 0" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135086 [10:16] Launchpad bug 127273 in laptop-mode-tools "laptop-mode init script links not created" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127273 [10:16] pitti, can i use that same version number, or do i need to bump again? [10:17] superm1: no, please reuse the number, just fix s/proposed/updates/ in the changelog [10:17] k === jpon [n=jpon@neu67-3-82-239-80-181.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === asisak [n=conp@ubuntu/member/coNP] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:19] pitti, okay should be back up again [10:21] calc: oh, also bug 5462 [10:21] Launchpad bug 5462 in mc "Dutch translation: wrong shortcut" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/5462 [10:24] doko, kk [10:25] superm1: ok, all done; thanks [10:26] thanks pitti appreciate it === coNP [n=conp@ubuntu/member/coNP] has joined #ubuntu-devel === marcel [i=marcel@avant.lt3.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mvo [n=egon@p54A66616.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bigon [i=bigon@ubuntu/member/bigon] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AlinuxOS [n=vsichi@host57-130-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === kagou_ [n=Patrice@77.194.192.44] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel === desrt [n=desrt@dhcp-0-20-af-d2-7c-3.cpe.mountaincable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:55] siretart: I'm not that happy about accepting cdrtools from source NEW, since it would probably break upgrades [10:56] siretart: i. e. it would replace cdrkit with cdrecord on upgrades which still have the transitional packages installed [10:56] siretart: and we don't want to force people to automatically move from main to multiverse packages === coNP [n=conp@ubuntu/member/coNP] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rbrunhuber [n=Miranda@highway.mvi.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:02] pitti: what kind of problems do you foresee? [11:02] query? [11:03] siretart: see above, automatically upgrading from cdrkit (main/supported) to cdrtools (multiverse, not supported) [11:03] siretart: and, freeze-wise, this is a new upstream version etc. === yafeb [n=bfay@ax213-1-82-66-156-47.fbx.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === coNP_ [n=conp@ubuntu/member/coNP] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Watersevenub [n=Watersev@242-66.dial.nortenet.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hjmills [n=hjmills@88-109-130-139.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@dsl-hkibrasgw1-ff19c100-129.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:16] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evince/+bug/135832 [11:16] Launchpad bug 135832 in evince "evince: libgtkprint support is broken" [Low,Incomplete] [11:16] howdy! would anyone have a clue about this one? [11:16] Where are the fields in the Release file documented? [11:17] scripts/mod/../../include/linux/input.h:30: erreur: expected specifier-qualifier-list before __s32 [11:18] anyone know i can fix that ? === atlas95 [n=atlas@fw-asn2.ornis.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === XSource [n=XSource@41.201.250.26] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:25] \o/ :) === coNP [n=conp@ubuntu/member/coNP] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:31] <\sh> pitti, could you have a look at bug 139376 [11:31] Launchpad bug 139376 in quagga "[UVF exception] please update quagga 0.99.9 " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139376 [11:33] \sh: can you please attach the debdiff between current gutsy and your new source? [11:34] <\sh> pitti, even it's a new source? sure, no problem :) === pitti -> quick appointment and lunch break, bbl [11:34] \sh: yes, it'll be big, but it's convenient for reviewing [11:34] \sh: thanks [11:34] \sh: (yes, debdiff works for new sources, too) === coNP_ [n=conp@ubuntu/member/coNP] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:35] <\sh> pitti, give me 5 secs ;) [11:36] asac: network-manager is in "no network connection" mode again also my interface is manually managed === mbiebl [n=michael@e180068146.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:37] <\sh> pitti, attached === enrico [n=enrico@debian/developer/enrico] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mvo [n=egon@p54A66616.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:46] mvo: i filed bug 139566 for you now [11:46] asac: thanks! [11:47] mvo: can you please attach some info .. like: is this always the case? [11:47] Launchpad bug 139566 in network-manager "network-manager is in "no network connection" mode even though all interface are manually managed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139566 [11:47] asac: sure, I'm happy to attach anything you need [11:47] mvo: ok i'll ask in bug [11:47] asac: it seems to be not always the case, it worked a while. but then I usually suspend/resume my machine and hardly ever boot it. [11:48] asac: but currently I do have to boot it as fglrx breaks suspsend :( === Spads [i=spacehob@unaffiliated/spads] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:51] now i have to reboot ;) === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mc44 [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Kmos [n=gothicx@unaffiliated/kmos] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@dsl-hkibrasgw1-ff19c100-129.dhcp.inet.fi] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === ompaul [n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mvo_ [n=egon@p54A66616.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === boggle [n=spindler@modemcable045.37-82-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:10] hm, can I tell requestsync to send me a bcc? I like keeping copies of my outgoing mail. === illovae [n=illovae@82.251.247.175] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:24] hm, why doesn't malone mark bugs in removed packages as fix released or invalid or something? [12:25] hello :) === Shely [n=Sea@221.201.61.42] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:33] pygi: see gutsy-changes: Accepted cdrtools 10:2.01.01a33-0ubuntu1 (source) === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:35] Mithrandir: yes, you can.. you need to modify the source :) [12:35] or ask pitti to do it in the next version === carlos [n=carlos@canonical/launchpad/carlos] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:46] <\sh> hmmm... [12:46] <\sh> Errors were encountered while processing: [12:46] <\sh> /var/cache/apt/archives/vim-common_1%3a7.1-056+2ubuntu1_i386.deb [12:46] <\sh> /var/cache/apt/archives/vim-runtime_1%3a7.1-056+2ubuntu1_all.deb [12:46] <\sh> while creating a dapper chroot [12:47] What error? [12:47] <\sh> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/vim-common_1%3a7.1-056+2ubuntu1_i386.deb (--unpack): [12:47] <\sh> trying to overwrite `/usr/share/vim/vimcurrent', which is also in package vim-runtime [12:48] <\sh> hmm... [12:48] <\sh> that's strange === jamiemcc [n=jamie@82-32-8-26.cable.ubr02.azte.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:48] <\sh> I just use dapper and dapper-security archive... [12:50] <\sh> and this version is not in dapper [12:51] <\sh> argll.found it [12:52] <\sh> my script is borked setting up pbuilderrcs === Loevborg [n=loevborg@dslb-084-056-007-170.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:56] keescook: don't we need to fix bug 139265 now that we have a new version of pam? [12:56] Launchpad bug 139265 in samba "localized pam == no samba password changing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139265 === Mithrandir ruffles dholbach [12:57] more icons! [12:58] yoohoo [12:59] cjwatson: right, we do; vorlon mentioned it some days ago [12:59] mvo_: If compiz locks up rv350, it's likely to affect a lot of other chips in that family. r300 isn't terribly stable in terms of 3D === agoliveira [n=adilson@201.22.82.176.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:00] cjwatson: probably with calling passwd with LC_MESSAGES=C or so [01:02] mjg59: right. the only r300 I can get access to easily is a rv350, so I need to watch out for more reports === jrib [n=jrib@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-devel === DktrKranz [n=Luca@ubuntu/member/dktrkranz] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lucky_lucas [n=lucas@3.122.77.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ryu [n=chris@unaffiliated/ryu] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:30] doko: do you know what could be the cause for "libgcj failure: gcj linkage error.", "Incorrect library ABI version detected. Aborting."? [01:30] it's bug #132923 [01:30] Launchpad bug 132923 in pdftk "pdftk aborts on start" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132923 [01:31] geser: rebuild with a recent gcj === laga [n=laga@mythwiki.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:32] hi guys. how are the translations for ubiquity handled, if not in launchpad? === jwendell [n=wendell@ubuntu/member/wendell] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:38] dholbach: how does compare-packages differ from debdiff? [01:38] pitti: it diffs all the binary packages [01:39] laga: they're handled in Launchpad but the translations are only actually merged back by hand; I'm in the process of doing that now [01:39] dholbach: so does debdiff if applied to a pair of .changes files [01:39] dholbach: right, debdiff old.i386.changes new.i386.changes [01:39] oh... ... ... [01:40] laga: most packages use language packs, but ubiquity can't because it would need all language packs to be installed on the live CD which isn't feasible [01:40] pitti, cjwatson: how do you get an old *.changes file for a build that you don't have on your disk already? === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:41] I'm happy to drop compare-packages, just trying to find out a clever workflow [01:41] dholbach: that's pretty tricky indeed; how does c-p do it? [01:41] dholbach: for this case I would just compare the .debs one by one [01:42] it doesn't, you either need your own mirror or get debs [01:42] dholbach: I'm not saying that c-p isn't a good idea, I'm just curious what it does :) [01:42] but at least they are easier to get [01:42] debdiff --from foo_1.deb bar_1.deb --to foo_2.deb bar_2.deb [01:42] ok, gotcha [01:42] rtfm :-) === rbrunhuber [n=Miranda@highway.mvi.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:44] changes committed in ubuntu-dev-tools [01:45] or have a fake-changes command that gives you a fake .changes file for a set of .dscs/orig.tar.gz/.tar.gz/.deb files, so you can do debdiff <(fake-changes foo_1.deb foo_2.deb) foo_2.changes === TeTeT [n=spindler@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dexem [n=dani@191.Red-88-23-206.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === StevenHarperUK [n=richard@90.241.38.13] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:52] evand: gobuntu-meta is not currently seeded; is it meant to stay in main for gutsy, for CD building etc.? [01:53] Hi im looking for a Guide to using po translation files in PYTHON for my GTK project - can anyone help? [01:54] StevenHarperUK: you probably don't want to use .po files directly, right? [01:54] StevenHarperUK: you should just use the standard gettext Python module [01:54] StevenHarperUK: try using python-distutils-extra [01:54] Im have an XMl file at the moment [01:54] Whats the correct way [01:55] dholbach: oh, cool; in apport and r-m I still have custom code to build .mo, etc. [01:55] glatzor rocks :) === pitti hugs glatzor in absence [01:56] Is there a GUIDE to making an APP Multi lingual using PO files ? === pedro [n=pedro@pc-10-217-44-190.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:56] cjwatson: hmm, component-mismatches still contains lots of fallout from mobile (like claws-mail, mce-dev, etc.) [01:57] cjwatson: alright. i was going to translate the mythbuntu frontend into german. is it too late now? [01:57] StevenHarperUK: python-distutils-extra is a package including a python module that helps with translations in python projects === nags [n=nags@125.16.129.16] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:58] Is there a Guide to doing that? [01:58] An API - or example would be a great start [01:58] apt-get source python-distutils-extra contains an example [01:59] bzr get http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-art-pkg/example-look/dev to [01:59] too [02:00] <\sh> pitti, I can't upload ;) could you upload it? :) [02:00] \sh: oh, sure [02:00] <\sh> pitti, thx :) [02:00] <\sh> pitti, fixes for the other distros are coming...dapper is attached [02:01] Theres nothing there http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-art-pkg/example-look/dev/ [02:01] run bzr get [02:02] ta [02:02] laga: no [02:03] pitti: as I noted in my mail, I can only get rid of some of them; things that get pulled in through build-depends are too hard to get rid of without another pile of germinate runs which would be computationally expensive [02:03] StevenHarperUK: info gettext [02:03] cjwatson: understood, thanks [02:03] cjwatson: ok, where can i translate it then? i've got the source here but you said it was handled in launchpad [02:04] laga: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/ubiquity/+pots/ubiquity [02:04] laga: actually, cancel that [02:04] \sh: uploaded [02:04] <\sh> pitti, thx [02:04] laga: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/debian-installer/+pots/debian-installer is what you actually want to translate [02:05] it's a combined set including translations of the whole installer, not just ubiquity [02:05] cjwatson: thanks a lot! === pochu [n=emilio@84.Red-83-57-218.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:08] I want to make my own Project that is a python GTK app use the Proper Ubuntu Multi lingual implementation instead of my own XML effort [02:08] mine works, but I want to use Launchpad to get Translations === jdstrand [n=james@mail.strandboge.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:08] hum. [02:09] StevenHarperUK: for mythbuntu-control-centre, we just ripped the translation stuff out of restricted-manager [02:09] StevenHarperUK: you need the Makefile, AFAIK, and then you add the files which need to be translated to po/POTFILES.in [02:10] i'm not sure how to upload translations to launchpad, though :) [02:11] How are these used in Python thou : I need some sample code, the art example has no actual python code [02:11] check the source of restricted-manager or mythbuntu-control-centre (only aailable in gutsy) [02:12] you have a URL for the source? [02:12] StevenHarperUK: BTW, this assumes you're using glade [02:12] xgettext knows how to extract translatable strings from python source so it should work as it would for C code [02:12] see info gettext [02:12] (or indeed xgettext can extract from glade files too) [02:13] My text is already in an XML file [02:13] I want to switch to the po method [02:13] StevenHarperUK: are you using glade? [02:13] then use the appropriate tool to extract strings to a .pot file [02:14] if the XML file is useful for something else, keep it and extract the strings in a makefile; if not, junk it and keep the generated .pot file [02:14] I dont use make [02:14] I use debtools to make by debs [02:14] that's usually a mistake [02:14] its python its all different [02:14] note that debian/rules is a makefile [02:15] doko: I rebuild pdftk and it still has the same problem [02:15] StevenHarperUK: are you using glade? *sigh* [02:15] Ill find a Current python project that uses these (resricted-manager) and have a crawl over it [02:15] no *sign* === laga shakes head === jdstrand [n=james@mail.strandboge.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fabbione [n=fabbione@ip-66-80-12-66.dsl.sca.megapath.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:19] pitti,evand: I've fixed the Gobuntu desktop seed to include gobuntu-desktop === jdstrand [n=james@mail.strandboge.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === agoliveira [n=adilson@201.22.82.176.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gouki [n=gouki@ubuntu/member/gouki] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:22] cjwatson: thanks === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-130-133.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:24] geser: yes, afaik it needs some work [02:26] doko: is the problem in pdftk or in gcj-4.2? or somewhere else? [02:27] geser: pdftk, hot it is built [02:28] ajmitch: can mono sensibly be built against libgda3 instead of 2? it's the only remaining rdependency [02:29] ajmitch: and IIRC previous mono versions did not build against it (since libgda2 was once in component-mismatches for demotion) [02:29] pitti: afaict the use of libgda in mono is in a not-very-maintained System.Data provider === tahorg [n=tahorg@zone5.dih.oleane.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:30] so I don't know if that code is even useful, or used at all :) [02:30] ajmitch: just asking because libgda2 now appears in component-mismatches again, so it would be nice to change that to libgda3 or drop it [02:30] hi, is there a timeline for fixing xen in gutsy amd64 ? [02:30] I can try & look at it in the morning === Kopfgeldjaeger [n=nicolai@p54AD6043.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:31] hi [02:31] ajmitch: thanks [02:32] along with that samba update I was doing before they released 3.0.26 to fix a security problem === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:32] which I'll need another UVF exception for, I guess :) [02:35] ajmitch: see my current post to u-devel@ :) === jdstrand [n=james@mail.strandboge.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Watersevenub [n=Watersev@242-66.dial.nortenet.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ajmitch waits for mail to arrive [02:37] pitti: I don't see any recent post [02:37] erk, yes, I just saw that my local mailq is full of stuff [02:37] I guess my SSL certificate expired, or so === pitti grumpily drops everything else and fixes it [02:38] oops :) === IanC26 [n=IanC26@2002:908b:a5ae:4:216:6fff:fe39:ff6e] has joined #ubuntu-devel === norsetto [n=Cesare@host197-160-dynamic.57-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cprov [n=cprov@canonical/launchpad/cprov] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdstrand [n=james@mail.strandboge.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:46] <\sh> pitti, bug 139569 ready for review and security upload...dapper/edgy/feisty debdiffs attached :) thx :) [02:46] Bug 139569 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/139569 is private [02:47] \sh: hm, any reason not to make it public? it's a published issue after all [02:47] pitti: what was in this important mail to u-devel? :) [02:47] <\sh> pitti, aeh...It's default when selecting "Security Bug" ;-) [02:48]