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RinchenLittle update for your channel peeps....01:02
Rinchenfrom our web guru " I've made excellent progress and have the hardest part (the graphics) done. It looks sharp. Unfortunately, I don't have it pieced all together to send a screenshot, but it matches the rest of the ubuntu site, but without the thing on the right (the ad) and it has a little more vectorish/modernish look to it. The fridge is in there too."01:02
RinchenSo, looks like it'll be tomorrow before the graphics items are worked out and installed01:02
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newz2000Hey all, working on the fridge layout/theme and am thinking about two col vs three col layouts05:36
Rincheninteresting05:36
Rinchenit would make it easier to read05:36
newz2000The benefit of 3 col is you get to see more info above the fold, but the prob is that on long pages you get a lot of wasted space because the columns are empty05:37
Rinchenlike today05:37
Rinchenplus the columns aren't wide enough to easily read that material unless you shrink the text down05:37
newz2000right05:37
newz2000There is an option, and that is to float the right column inside the content area so that when that column ends the content fills in the space below it05:38
newz2000So three options really... two col (www.ubuntu.com), three col (www.canonical.com) and three col but third col floated inside (like a magazine article)05:39
RinchenIf you think that 2 is going to improve readability and asthetics, I say do it. If it doesn't work we can always change it05:39
newz2000planning ahead for the right layout makes life much easier. ;-)05:39
newz2000I think I'm going to go for two and we can easily make that right col float inside if needed. Just curious if anyone had a strong opinion on the matter05:40
=== beuno prefers 2 columns :D
newz2000ugh, I've gotta reboot. Compiz is doing something crazy... brb05:42
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Rinchennewz2000, you can issue gtk-window-manager -- replace &  and it usually fixes that stuff05:55
newz2000I'll save that command... but I needed to reboot anyway because of a pam update.05:56
=== Rinchen has the same issues in gutsy
newz2000I'm in gutsy too05:56
newz2000Hmm... without an advertisement on the right side of the site, the page looks very empty over there. Can anyone suggest a fitting advertisement to show on the top right?06:05
RinchenI'd prefer no advertisements :-)06:05
Rinchencan we shrink that header so it's not a big waste of page space?06:06
newz2000yes, its smaller now06:07
Rinchennewz2000, fyi..   http://www.ubuntu.com/community  has a "broken" link.    The link is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeam  but should be  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork06:10
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newz2000wow, the database backup of the fridge is 365M uncompressed10:16
Rinchenlots good news eh newz?10:33
Rinchennewz2000, can you check to see if there is a cron nightly that backs it up?10:34
RinchenI fear the worst10:34
newz2000looking...10:35
newz2000Rinchen: you'll have to ask the sysadmins how its backed up, I don't see anything10:36
RinchenI was expecting that...okey dokey10:37
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Rinchennewz2000, #is10:39
newz2000ugh, most of that sql is sessions. Without that table in there, the db sizes drops to 8.7M11:15
Rinchenhmm11:17
Rinchenthat's interesting11:17
newz2000Rinchen: how perfect do you want it to be?11:17
Rinchenhehe11:17
Rinchenwell, we're already at warsaw's 3rd law11:17
newz2000Not familiar with that one11:18
Rinchenhttp://barry.warsaw.us/software/laws.html    Law #211:18
newz2000whoa, law #1 is absolutely true, I've discovered that one on my own11:18
newz2000ah, yes, firm believer in #2 too11:19
Rinchencredit of course goes to barry on #launchpad-code11:19
newz2000So I will continue fiddling... I've got the theme pretty much done, but need real data to tweak it11:20
Rinchenas for perfect. Folks will notice and complain if there are issues :-)  Just like with canonical.com and ubuntu.com11:20
newz2000Well, let me define perfect: theme + any new fuctionality going live together11:20
newz2000theme is 90% done, I haven't started on the new functionality yet11:21
newz2000And I'm just about to test the upgrade from 4.7 to 5.211:21
Rinchenfor today's update I was after the theme and bug reports :-)11:21
Rinchenso, why not concentrate on theme-only11:21
Rinchenand do the rest next week11:21
Rinchenless to worry about then11:21
newz2000ok. Lets see how it looks with real data. Testing momentarily.11:21
Rinchenmy opinion for sequencing is: theme - upgrade - remainder of the bugs - any new functionality11:23
newz2000theme + upgrade are co-dependent.11:23
newz2000is "glossary" used on the fridge?11:33
newz2000Its installed11:33
Rinchenit's not be used to my knowledge11:43
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RinchenNo, it's not being used:  http://fridge.ubuntu.com/glossary11:44
newz2000:-D11:44
Rinchenturn it off if we don't need it11:44
Rinchenone less thing to worry about11:45
newz2000what about sitemenu and customerror?11:45
Rinchenyes to sitemenu11:45
RinchenI think so on error, checking11:45
Rinchensitemenu sucks though11:45
Rinchennobody really uses it11:45
Rinchenthat I'm aware of11:45
Rinchenhttp://fridge.ubuntu.com/sitemenu11:46
newz2000oh, that's what it does11:46
Rinchencustomerror is not in use11:46
Rinchenwe can delete it11:46
Rinchendelete/disbale11:46
newz2000well, there is a much newer version of sitemenu, maybe the new one is better11:46
RinchenI'm game. we can always disable it11:46
newz2000maybe not *much* newer, but there is a newer one11:46
newz2000ok, time for soccer practice12:10

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