[01:02] <Rinchen> Little update for your channel peeps....
[01:02] <Rinchen> from our web guru " I've made excellent progress and have the hardest part (the graphics) done. It looks sharp. Unfortunately, I don't have it pieced all together to send a screenshot, but it matches the rest of the ubuntu site, but without the thing on the right (the ad) and it has a little more vectorish/modernish look to it. The fridge is in there too."
[01:02] <Rinchen> So, looks like it'll be tomorrow before the graphics items are worked out and installed
[05:36] <newz2000> Hey all, working on the fridge layout/theme and am thinking about two col vs three col layouts
[05:36] <Rinchen> interesting
[05:36] <Rinchen> it would make it easier to read
[05:37] <newz2000> The benefit of 3 col is you get to see more info above the fold, but the prob is that on long pages you get a lot of wasted space because the columns are empty
[05:37] <Rinchen> like today
[05:37] <Rinchen> plus the columns aren't wide enough to easily read that material unless you shrink the text down
[05:37] <newz2000> right
[05:38] <newz2000> There is an option, and that is to float the right column inside the content area so that when that column ends the content fills in the space below it
[05:39] <newz2000> So three options really... two col (www.ubuntu.com), three col (www.canonical.com) and three col but third col floated inside (like a magazine article)
[05:39] <Rinchen> If you think that 2 is going to improve readability and asthetics, I say do it. If it doesn't work we can always change it
[05:39] <newz2000> planning ahead for the right layout makes life much easier. ;-)
[05:40] <newz2000> I think I'm going to go for two and we can easily make that right col float inside if needed. Just curious if anyone had a strong opinion on the matter
[05:42] <newz2000> ugh, I've gotta reboot. Compiz is doing something crazy... brb
[05:55] <Rinchen> newz2000, you can issue gtk-window-manager -- replace &  and it usually fixes that stuff
[05:56] <newz2000> I'll save that command... but I needed to reboot anyway because of a pam update.
[05:56] <newz2000> I'm in gutsy too
[06:05] <newz2000> Hmm... without an advertisement on the right side of the site, the page looks very empty over there. Can anyone suggest a fitting advertisement to show on the top right?
[06:05] <Rinchen> I'd prefer no advertisements :-)
[06:06] <Rinchen> can we shrink that header so it's not a big waste of page space?
[06:07] <newz2000> yes, its smaller now
[06:10] <Rinchen> newz2000, fyi..   http://www.ubuntu.com/community  has a "broken" link.    The link is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeam  but should be  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork
[10:16] <newz2000> wow, the database backup of the fridge is 365M uncompressed
[10:33] <Rinchen> lots good news eh newz?
[10:34] <Rinchen> newz2000, can you check to see if there is a cron nightly that backs it up?
[10:34] <Rinchen> I fear the worst
[10:35] <newz2000> looking...
[10:36] <newz2000> Rinchen: you'll have to ask the sysadmins how its backed up, I don't see anything
[10:37] <Rinchen> I was expecting that...okey dokey
[10:39] <Rinchen> newz2000, #is
[11:15] <newz2000> ugh, most of that sql is sessions. Without that table in there, the db sizes drops to 8.7M
[11:17] <Rinchen> hmm
[11:17] <Rinchen> that's interesting
[11:17] <newz2000> Rinchen: how perfect do you want it to be?
[11:17] <Rinchen> hehe
[11:17] <Rinchen> well, we're already at warsaw's 3rd law
[11:18] <newz2000> Not familiar with that one
[11:18] <Rinchen> http://barry.warsaw.us/software/laws.html    Law #2
[11:18] <newz2000> whoa, law #1 is absolutely true, I've discovered that one on my own
[11:19] <newz2000> ah, yes, firm believer in #2 too
[11:19] <Rinchen> credit of course goes to barry on #launchpad-code
[11:20] <newz2000> So I will continue fiddling... I've got the theme pretty much done, but need real data to tweak it
[11:20] <Rinchen> as for perfect. Folks will notice and complain if there are issues :-)  Just like with canonical.com and ubuntu.com
[11:20] <newz2000> Well, let me define perfect: theme + any new fuctionality going live together
[11:21] <newz2000> theme is 90% done, I haven't started on the new functionality yet
[11:21] <newz2000> And I'm just about to test the upgrade from 4.7 to 5.2
[11:21] <Rinchen> for today's update I was after the theme and bug reports :-)
[11:21] <Rinchen> so, why not concentrate on theme-only
[11:21] <Rinchen> and do the rest next week
[11:21] <Rinchen> less to worry about then
[11:21] <newz2000> ok. Lets see how it looks with real data. Testing momentarily.
[11:23] <Rinchen> my opinion for sequencing is: theme - upgrade - remainder of the bugs - any new functionality
[11:23] <newz2000> theme + upgrade are co-dependent.
[11:33] <newz2000> is "glossary" used on the fridge?
[11:33] <newz2000> Its installed
[11:43] <Rinchen> it's not be used to my knowledge
[11:44] <Rinchen> No, it's not being used:  http://fridge.ubuntu.com/glossary
[11:44] <newz2000> :-D
[11:44] <Rinchen> turn it off if we don't need it
[11:45] <Rinchen> one less thing to worry about
[11:45] <newz2000> what about sitemenu and customerror?
[11:45] <Rinchen> yes to sitemenu
[11:45] <Rinchen> I think so on error, checking
[11:45] <Rinchen> sitemenu sucks though
[11:45] <Rinchen> nobody really uses it
[11:45] <Rinchen> that I'm aware of
[11:46] <Rinchen> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/sitemenu
[11:46] <newz2000> oh, that's what it does
[11:46] <Rinchen> customerror is not in use
[11:46] <Rinchen> we can delete it
[11:46] <Rinchen> delete/disbale
[11:46] <newz2000> well, there is a much newer version of sitemenu, maybe the new one is better
[11:46] <Rinchen> I'm game. we can always disable it
[11:46] <newz2000> maybe not *much* newer, but there is a newer one
[12:10] <newz2000> ok, time for soccer practice