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=== Topic for #ubuntu-kernel: Ubuntu kernel development discussion ONLY | Kernel Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam | Latest kernel upload: 2.6.22-10.26 | Latest news: -rt and -xen kernels re-added | New Kernel Team machine: http://kernel.ubuntu.com
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amitkzul: Do you want me to pull both commits since 0a7ecab0094bf5b59586eb8e2a2071c1740eba9a?09:57
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arooni__zomg so many updates today for gutsy..... what changeD?10:09
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=== BenC nickserv identify Marcme2
zuloooh..03:16
zulyou might want to change that03:16
BenCoops03:16
amitk:-D03:16
zulneed more coffee BenC?03:16
BenCwonder where the extra 'e' after /m came from03:17
BenCglad I only use that password here :)03:18
zulhehe03:18
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evandCan someone take a look at bug 139453?  mjg59 suspects it's a kernel issue, rather than usplash.05:10
ubotuLaunchpad bug 139453 in usplash "colors are left on the screen after blanking with usplash enabled" [High,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13945305:10
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=== Topic (#ubuntu-kernel): set by BlueDevil at Sat Aug 25 00:21:12 2007
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manchickenIs power-management (e.g. battery levels and monitoring) a kernel issue or a user-land issue?10:20
johanbrDepends on exactly what the problem is.10:21
manchickenProblem is that both under KDE and GNOME I get the power management programs telling me that I'm switching onto or off of AC power incorrectly.10:23
manchickenAlso, much of the time on battery power the program is either reporting no power on the battery incorrectly.10:23
manchickenAlso, my machine doesn't seem to want to come back from suspend to RAM, so that's another problem.10:24
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manchickenI'm guessing that since I'm running Gutsy that System76 isn't going to be all that interested in helping, so I'm trying to find someone who might be able to sort the problem out.  I'm guessing that the power-management problems may be in HAL or maybe dbus (not sure how the power-management programs fetch their data), but I'm pretty sure that the suspension issue is ACPI/kernel related.10:27
manchickenallee: What's going on?10:27
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alleemanchicken: hey! dadchecken. 10:31
manchickenHowdy :)10:32
manchickenbrb, gotta call the fire dept10:33
alleemanchicken: oh :)10:34
JanCmanchicken: I guess you can ask/inform the system76 guys, as I guess they _will_ be interested to have working equipment to sell, even after the gutsy release  :)10:34
manchickenYeah10:34
bdmurraymanchicken: so many questions. ;) You could look at /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/[state|info]  to see what the kernel says about your battery10:36
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manchickenTrue.  I'll get into more of that once I'm done dealing with this real-life fire.10:37
manchickenbrb.10:37
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johanbrmanchicken: Try looking at the files in the /proc/acpi directory. If the information there is incorrect, it's a kernel issue.11:02
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manchickenSo that sucked.  Anyway, I'll take a look at /proc/acpi11:16
manchickenI am getting some weirdness.11:18
manchickenSometimes it says charged but has "unknown" for present rate or remaining capacity.11:19
manchickenNow it says I'm charging, but the cord is most certainly disconnected.11:19
manchickenSo that sounds like a kernel issue then?11:19
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manchickenThe temperature seems a bit off, too.  It's switching back and forth between 5 C and 48 C11:20
JanC5 & 48 C you mean  ;)11:31
JanCbut that sounds quite wrong indeed11:31
JanCI have seen some weird things underfeisty a couple of times, but couldn't reproduce it11:32
manchickenYea11:34
manchickenI'm just putting what the file had in it :)11:34
manchickenThe power management and suspension stuff is really impacting me negatively though.11:35
manchickenRight now it's telling me that it's going to take 27 hours to charge my battery, which I'm pretty sure is wrong.11:35
manchickenI'm guessing System76 doesn't have any IRC channels though.11:36
bdmurraymanchicken: you'll want to submit a bug report regarding the kern then11:36
bdmurraykernel even11:37
manchickenOkie dokie.11:37
bdmurrayand attach a tarball of /proc/acpi11:37
bdmurrayin addition to the the kernel teams minimum bug requirements11:37
manchickenWhere might I find those?11:38
manchicken(the minimum requirements that is)11:38
bdmurrayhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeamBugPolicies or something close to that11:39
manchickenMuch thanks.11:39
manchickenI'll try to either post to an existing report or post a new one.11:40
bdmurrayNo problem11:40
manchickenThis is interesting.11:52
manchickenIn syslog I get very unusual keycode error messages reported whenever I unplug or plug in the AC adapter.11:53
bdmurrayI imagine your BIOS is up to date11:54
manchickenbdmurray: I'm unaware of how to change or check such a thing.  I'm guessing System76 would give me such an update over their repository.11:54
manchickenIf my situation only somewhat resembles that of another bug, should I just add my addition to that bug report, or should I post a new bug report and cite that it is similar to another?11:56
bdmurraymanchicken: Your bug sounds very hard specific and so the best idea is to submit a separate bug report11:58
bdmurrayand mention that it is similar11:58
bdmurrays/hard/hardware/11:58
manchickenRighto.11:59
manchickenI'm also emailing System76 support.11:59
manchickenBug #139701 reported.12:09
ubotuLaunchpad bug 139701 in linux-source-2.6.22 "Under Gutsy on System76 Darter, battery state information is often incorrect." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13970112:09
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bdmurraymanchicken: that bug report looks great - thanks12:17
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manchickenNot a problem.  I hope it helps someone fix a problem :)12:19
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