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| synic | failed to open trace file: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/root/.bzr.log' | 12:14 |
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| synic | I get that when trying to perform most operations | 12:14 |
| synic | I assume it's a common error? | 12:14 |
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| jelmer | synic: nope - are you running bzr as root? | 12:19 |
| synic | no | 12:19 |
| synic | never have. | 12:19 |
| synic | it just started happening, on all my machines | 12:19 |
| jelmer | since when ? upgrade to a new version of bzr? | 12:20 |
| synic | I haven't upgraded anything, unless a security release broke it | 12:21 |
| fullermd | Sounds more like it's running as a non-root user, who has /root as $HOME. | 12:25 |
| jelmer | I suspect something else has changed in your environment.. does "printenv | grep /root" print anything? | 12:26 |
| synic | no, nothing | 12:30 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #139722 in bzr "Bzr not installed into path via windows installer" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139722 | 02:45 |
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| spiv | Anyway here have a live.gnome.org wiki login already? http://live.gnome.org/BzrForGnomeDevelopers says "bzr 0.9" when it means "bzr 0.90". | 04:20 |
| fullermd | I dunno. I'd like to see somebody using bzr 0.9 and bzr-svn 0.4.2... it just takes a little hacking. | 04:21 |
| jelmer | spiv: I've got one, will fix it | 04:22 |
| spiv | jelmer: thanks! | 04:23 |
| spiv | (I have more than enough accounts on random wikis and things already...) | 04:23 |
| jelmer | :-) | 04:23 |
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| sri | so.. how is performance these days.. can we compete against git? just curious | 07:18 |
| sri | and btw hi, long time no see. | 07:19 |
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| D-Pain | performance is a lot better IMO for day to day usage... | 07:31 |
| D-Pain | stuff like status, diff, ci are a lot more acceptable | 07:31 |
| D-Pain | but networking speed still needs work IMO | 07:31 |
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| Peng | Commit is "a lot more acceptable"? Is it better than it was a month ago? | 09:01 |
| Peng | Say, ten times better? | 09:01 |
| spiv | Peng: talk to lifeless when he's around | 09:04 |
| spiv | Peng: he's been making some massive improvements to commit, although most of that won't be seen until the 0.92 release in about a month. | 09:05 |
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| Peng | A couple months ago, I had 3-minute commits for my homedir. I converted it to hg and now they're 15 or 20 seconds. | 09:44 |
| Peng | Commit improvements and the C patiencediff should help. | 09:45 |
| Peng | (bzr diff took 30 seconds) | 09:45 |
| Peng | (on one file) | 09:45 |
| Peng | 4.5 seconds or so with hg diff. | 09:46 |
| AfC | I bet it's using the short cut of only diffing if it sees the mtimes are different. | 09:46 |
| Peng | The mtimes are different. | 09:47 |
| Peng | Anyway, it's one file. | 09:47 |
| Peng | What do you mean? | 09:47 |
| Peng | When committing? | 09:47 |
| Peng | Hg only checks files with different mtimes, while bzr checks everything? | 09:48 |
| AfC | I believe so | 09:48 |
| Peng | Either way, 4.5 seconds vs. 30 seconds for diff isn't because of that. | 09:48 |
| AfC | This being the more correct behaviour - you can't really trust mtimes. | 09:48 |
| Peng | Right | 09:48 |
| Peng | . | 09:48 |
| AfC | Peng: (but many systems do) | 09:49 |
| Peng | Hg uses a regular old sucky diff algorithm. :( | 09:49 |
| AfC | Peng: (and I'm talking about more than just VCS here) | 09:49 |
| AfC | Peng: there's that too. | 09:49 |
| Peng | Diff algorithms don't matter when committing, though, unless you use --show-diff or whatever | 09:49 |
| Peng | . | 09:49 |
| AfC | I am generally convinced that Bazaar performs more "correctly" than most of the other systems, but the nature of competition is that it's hard to establish this and justify it. | 09:50 |
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| Peng | I know. I love Bazaar. It's great. | 09:50 |
| Peng | Except it's extremely slow. | 09:50 |
| AfC | Peng: that's down from glacially slow, though :) | 09:51 |
| Peng | In fact, I've run into a couple integrity issues with hg that I didn't experience with bzr. But 3 minute commits are just too much. | 09:51 |
| Peng | Also, bzr doesn't support copying files. | 09:51 |
| AfC | [copying?] | 09:51 |
| Peng | As in cp? | 09:52 |
| Peng | On the other hand, bzr has just abotu perfect rename support. | 09:53 |
| Peng | about* | 09:53 |
| AfC | Peng: still not quite sure what you're needing there | 09:53 |
| Peng | AfC: What do you mean? | 09:53 |
| AfC | COPYING | 09:53 |
| Peng | What about it? | 09:54 |
| AfC | {sigh} What about copying files are you trying to achieve, and how is Bazaar supposed to somehow contribute to this? | 09:54 |
| Peng | Sometimes I want to copy a file. Bazaar can't do it. | 09:54 |
| Peng | If I want to 'cp fileA fileB', I can't do it and preserve history in Bazaar. | 09:55 |
| Peng | Hmm. I'm not sure how much history is preserved across copies in other VCSes, or how much it should be. | 09:56 |
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| schierbeck | any bzr-gtk people in here? | 04:43 |
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| schierbeck | hi guys | 05:42 |
| schierbeck | do you know if there's a recent build of bzr for win64? | 05:42 |
| ubotu | New bug: #139803 in bzr "Bazaar does not run on 64-bit Windows systems" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139803 | 05:50 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #139824 in bzr "`bzr co .` in branch with WT gives error FileExists" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139824 | 08:00 |
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| === Topic for #bzr: The Bazaar Version Control System | http://bazaar-vcs.org/ | Bazaar 0.90 and 0.91rc2 are out - http://bazaar-vcs.org/Download | Please complete the Bazaar User Survey - http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=L94RvLswhKdktrxiHWiX3g_3d_3d | ||
| === Topic (#bzr): set by poolie at Wed Sep 12 03:35:03 2007 | ||
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