fredthedogwhen I boot from the live CD and make changes such as installing software or chaging settings then install will those changes be installed?12:37
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lnx_someone know how i can view the preview ?12:38
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fredthedogveiw what preview12:39
uganainnain6: maybe if vous parlez anglais...12:39
ugakirk: any progress?12:40
Dr_WillisHmm.. I got a upstairs machine on IRC and a basement machine.. heh..12:40
Dr_Willisfrogot about that.12:40
ScorpKinghow can i force dnsmasq to renew an ip of a computer?12:41
Dr_Willispillowpants theres a kxrandr tool/system tray gizmo that lets you change res's easy. that can fix your game cras/small screen issue.12:41
Dr_Willis!find xrand12:41
ubotuFound: libxrandr-dev, libxrandr2, libxrandr2-dbg, xrandr12:41
Dr_Willis!find xrandr12:41
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dvesselHello, anyone think running the i386 iso on an AMD64 is the better way to go?12:42
dvesselOverall compatibility good?12:43
Dr_Willis64bit disrto is NOT needed for amd64 machines12:43
ugaDr_Willis_: or a nice system tray applet named krandrtray12:43
Dr_Willisi use the 32bit stuff all the time.12:43
Dr_Willisuga thats the name - i never can rember it.12:43
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pillowpantsill give it a go12:43
dvesselDr_Willis:  I understand that.12:43
dvesselbut you sorta answered my question in a way.12:44
Dr_Willisdvessel a great many people (noobs? :))  think they must use 64disrto.12:44
ScorpKinguhm, ok then, how can i find and kill a pid of a lan computer eg so it can renew itself?12:45
Dr_Willison amd64 - i was just being very clear. :)12:45
dvesselDr_Willis: Right, and I'm definitely new to this but I knew that part. :)12:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about partitiontype - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:45
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Dr_WillisStill fighting that thing kirk_?12:46
dvesselToo bad I can't get the live dvd booting to work. I'll try again with i38612:47
kirk_almost got it though12:47
Dr_WillisNow WHAT. :) HEH..12:47
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kirk_which partition type should i make it12:47
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Dr_WillisA single partition? make it primary #112:47
Dr_Willisnow where to mount it..  dosent matter much.12:47
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ugakirk_: trust Dr_Willis. He seems to know fdisk by heart. I always have to read through the help menu to remember. And I cannot test partitioning my own drives right now, for obvious reasons ;P12:48
Dr_Willisive fought long and hard with fdisk in the past. :)12:49
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Dr_Willissome times i even win!12:49
dvesselDr_Willis: could you suggest a release? Feisty, Dapper? CD, DVD?12:49
Doctor_Nickwhoever wins, we lose12:49
Dr_Willisdvessel gutsy due out in a month. :)  so whatever ya want to do12:49
Dr_Willisit all depends on your needs.12:49
Doctor_Nicki should really update the kernel to fix my problems with my sound card12:49
ugaDr_Willis: heh, I'll remember you next week, when I have to set up a new 64 bit box, in case I'm in trouble with fdisk ;))12:50
Doctor_Nickbut... effort...12:50
Dr_Willisfdisk is so straight forward. :) compared to DOS's old fdisk...12:50
kirk_im just gonna use it for storage12:50
ScorpKingkirk_: try cfdisk one day...12:50
Dr_Willisrember kiddies.. you can have 4 paimary partitions..  one of them can be an Extended.. an extended holds. Logicals...12:50
fredthedoghen I use the guided partition what is it making? Just root and swap partitions? Also what is it giving me for a swap size?12:50
Dr_Willisfredthedog yep thats about it.12:51
Dr_Willisswap depends on your needs/ram. i say 512mb min. and often the MAX iuse. :) on my machines12:51
kirk_just as storage12:51
lnx_someone know how i can view the preview ?12:51
Dr_Williskirk_ make a hdb1  , ext3, and leave it at that.12:51
Dr_Williskirk_ mount it ti /media/storage12:51
kirk_ext3 is what is was before12:51
Dr_Willisthen for each user. make them a directory in that /media/storage. named  after them. then chown it to be owned by them. then link THAT dir, to their /home/username/ExtraStorage dir.(or whatever ya want)12:52
kirk_im sure me smoking excess amounts of marijuana all day doesnt help me12:52
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fredthedogHow do I know how big it's going to make my swap I don't want 2X Ram that's excessive12:53
fredthedoglol at kirk12:53
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Xn1is there a tool or a file I can edit in kubuntu for firewall config? seems quite different that fedora which is what I know12:53
Doctor_Nickdurgs are bad12:54
dwidmannfredthedog: how much RAM do you have?12:54
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ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).12:54
fredthedog2.5G so 2X standard would give me 5G I don't want that12:54
Xn1ahh thank you much12:54
dwidmannDoctor_Nick: as evidenced by your speeling isseus12:54
Dr_Willisfredthedog i think it just does 512mb12:54
kirk_holy ape shit, another issue12:55
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Dr_Williswith 2.5 gb.. you dont need much swap.. unless you are a uber-user. :)12:55
dwidmannfredthedog: 512mb should be good, though you'll probably never use it12:55
fredthedogI was thinking around 1G for swap would that still be enough?12:55
Dr_Willisi always put 512mb swap on EVERY hard drive i got.. just in case i boot the boxx with a livecd. :) most of them can use swap partitions also.12:55
fredthedogI mean be too much12:55
Dr_Willisfredthedog proberly overkill.. is this a laptop?12:56
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ScorpKingdwidmann: i worked everything out for my script with some help from #bash. now i just need to put it all together. :)12:56
kirk_when i went to mount it, it outputs  wrong fs type12:56
fredthedogno but I may setup some server apps on it12:56
Dr_WillisYou can always add a swap file later if needed.12:56
dwidmannScorpKing: good to hear it12:56
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ScorpKingit's a mission but i'm getting there. will keep you posted.12:57
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fredthedogwell thanks guys i got and idea now12:58
Dr_Williskirk_ What was the mount command you used?12:58
fredthedogmy gf says i said ubuntu in my sleep last night. is there help for being such a geek lol12:58
Dr_Williskirk_ you did format it after you partitioned it?12:58
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Dr_Willisremebr kiddies,, fdisk, then format, then mount..12:59
Dr_Willishad a kid in here once.. he was fdisking After formating...12:59
ugaDr_Willis: rofl01:00
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kirk_i thought fdisk did format it01:00
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Dr_Willis'fdisking is like taking the paper and organizing them into a book' 'formating is putting page #'s on the pages, so you can then write stuff on them'01:00
ugaDr_Willis: my first linux experience led me to mkfs /dev/hda... when I meant to format an external parallel port drive...01:00
Dr_Willisffdisk does NOT NOT NOT format. :)01:00
ugaDr_Willis: it was so much fun getting it to work =)01:01
Dr_Willisgparted is just a tool that can do both..01:01
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Dr_Willisms's fdisk does not format either. :)01:01
fredthedogmy first few linux experiences made me go run and hide under windows again, probally happened about 3 times01:01
sportbillyanyone how knows how can i configure beryl?01:01
Dr_WillisIve had windows experiences that make people run to Linux01:01
kirk_it shows up as active and using fs ext301:02
ugafredthedog: heh, I couldn't though. I was meant to use it for my university work ;)01:02
fredthedogthat is why I am here. I got a new notebook running vista :(01:02
ugaand nobody around had used linux _ever_01:02
kirk_it just wont let me mount it01:02
ugawin95 and 98 were so great, back then ;))01:02
fredthedogxp was there best system vista is a nightmare, resource hog and just plain gay01:02
ugakirk_: what's the error?01:02
ScorpKingkirk_: you have to format it first with mkfs.ext3 /dev/hd*01:03
kirk_mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb1,01:03
kirk_       missing codepage or other error01:03
kirk_       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try01:03
kirk_       dmesg | tail  or so01:03
ugaScorpKing: I believe he did, already01:03
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ugakirk_: you did so, right? =)01:03
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garfieldstdin: i cant get beryl to run no more01:04
fredthedogfigure this one out a core 2 duo with 2G ram and dedicated video card and vista still drags on a fresh install. Time to flea a failing OS.01:04
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ugafredthedog: lol. I knew it was crap, but not _that_ crap =)01:05
dudeiclescan anyone help me please? I am seeing black lines every second line of names on the right.01:05
ugadudeicles: konversation?01:05
dudeiclesit's in a lot of my programs01:05
ScorpKinghi dudeicles! welcome back. :D01:05
fredthedogvideo drivers maybe01:05
dudeiclesScorpKing:  hey hey buddy01:06
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ugaduckdown__: lots of apps? what do you mean by "line of names" then01:06
Dr_WillisHmm,, i will admit - that on this new machine i got. vista is.. useable..01:06
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Dr_Willisbut i dont see the big deal  over it.. vs XP.01:06
kirk_in fdisk, what do i do01:06
dudeiclesuga: I'll post a screen shot for you01:06
Dr_Williskirk_ to do what?01:07
lnx_someone know how i can view the preview ?01:07
kirk_hahah i dont know01:07
fredthedogespesially since that warez group got directx 10 games working on xp :o01:07
ugaDr_Willis: heh, still can't mount the drive, after formatting01:07
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ScorpKingdudeicles: if you start an app from konsole eg konversation you'll be able to see a lot of the errors.01:07
Dr_Williskirk_ use 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb' see what parttions are there. for a start.01:07
kirk_im high and probably messing it up more01:07
Dr_WillisYou did format the right disk? :)01:07
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fredthedogkirk where you from?01:07
Dr_WillisScorpKing ya DONT want to know what i did last week.. :)01:07
kirk_only 101:08
Dr_Willisall my.. videos.. gone.. heh01:08
luviekittymay i ask how do i set this up to go into channel01:08
Dr_Williskirk_ so  you used what to format the partition?01:08
ugaDr_Willis: good! disk free from any p0rn? now you can refresh your DB =)01:08
ScorpKingDr_Willis: mmm. do tell...01:08
Dr_Willisuga yep. :)01:08
ScorpKingthat suck01:08
Dr_Willisaparently some disrtos call hda sda now :)  and i had a sda allready... that was sata that was where it was TO isntall to.. :)01:08
kirk_- mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdb01:09
Dr_Williskirk_ BINGO.. wrong. :)01:09
Dr_Williskirk_ its /dev/hdb101:09
garfieldScorpKing:  Dr_Willis all my decoration is gone when i launch beryl :(01:09
Dr_Willishdb is the whole drive.. hdb1 is the partition on the drive01:09
ScorpKingmost sata drives will be sda01:09
Dr_Willisgarfield  now ya know why i dont use beryl. :)01:09
fredthedogtheres this site called boysfood that has awesome streaming porn, haha something new everyday boys01:09
kirk_hmm so i should mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdb1   now?01:09
Dr_Williskirk_ yea try that.01:09
ScorpKingsorry garfield, never used beryl. running a 340Mhz laptop. :)01:10
LiquidXTCOK I tried to change my hostname while in Ubuntu Knome and this did not go over very well... My browser would not open, nor would my administrative tasks untill I changed it back. Can anyone tell me if there is a way to change my hostname, without restarting, so that everything will still work??01:10
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ScorpKingLiquidXTC: it's in /etc/hosts01:10
dudeiclesScorpKing: how would I start this program from terminal?01:11
fredthedogwtf i installed but it doesn't seem to be working the same as before. no asking for reboot and all. fuk linux can be a headache01:11
garfieldDr_Willis: it because i try to install that thing with fglrx that stdin told me to install so my xorh got mest up now beryl not running good .it was running good befor i try to install fglrx for the ati01:11
dudeiclesScorpKing: can I send you this screen shot of what I see?01:11
fredthedogwell later gotta see what's up01:11
ScorpKingdudeicles: just type the name01:11
Dr_Willisi aint touching beryl or that stuff for a few more months. :)01:11
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garfieldDr_Willis: what do u use compiz?i install it but it never work01:12
ugaDr_Willis: ugh, but... after he has formatted hdb... the partition table is still there?01:12
dudeiclesScorpKing: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37459/01:12
Dr_Willisyou format partitions..  thats all you can format. :)01:12
Dr_Willisso it better still be there.01:12
Dr_Willisfdisk -l /dev/hdb and see.01:13
ugastrange, and mkfs didn't complain?01:13
Dr_WillisNOW the fact he formated hdb - is ... odd...01:13
ugawhen formatting /dev/hdb I mean01:13
Dr_Willisthat might of messed somthing up.01:13
ugaheh, yup01:13
Dr_Willisi dident think that was even doable...01:13
dudeiclesScorpKing: Mind if I send you this screen shot?01:13
ScorpKingdudeicles: that's normal. i have it on my computer as well. sure, send away01:14
luviekittythis is my first time using this program and how to do get into another server?01:14
ugaDr_Willis: it may just generate a single primary partition and format it01:14
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garfieldDr_Willis: how to uninstall fglrx?01:15
ScorpKingdudeicles: failed. have very weak signal for my connection here. mail it.01:15
dudeicleswill do01:16
kirk_basically fdisk'd the entire device, when i should have only the partition01:16
dudeiclesScorpKing: sent01:17
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Dr_Willisfdisk, make partition, format partition, (not disk) , mount parittion.01:18
Dr_Willisdrink beer...  relaxe01:18
ScorpKingdudeicles: yag! that's ugly.01:19
dudeiclesScorpKing: you're telling me. any ideas what's causing that?01:20
dudeiclesit's not just Konversation doing that. it's all my programs with lists in them except the internet.01:21
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ScorpKingdudeicles: not sure what that is, but i think it might be an xlib or something that's broken. check all your logs to start with. /var/log/* . other than that i don't know. :(01:22
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coreymon77kirk_: so, any luck yet?01:22
dudeiclesshould I maybe do my install update?01:23
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ScorpKingdudeicles: or maybe one of the kde libs. update might fix it. anyway, i have to go sleep. have fun01:23
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lnx_how i can add kde themes ?01:24
dudeicleslol thanks01:24
Dr_Willishmm. cant get fluxbox to run properly over xdmcp., odd..01:24
ScorpKingnite everyone!01:24
dudeicleshow would you update kde libs?01:25
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ugalnx_: by themes, you mean colors, fonts, background etc?01:26
ugaor you mean styles01:26
ugaie, the shapes of buttons, scrollbars, etc01:26
Dr_Willisthemes are composed of 'parts' - the parts are . 'window decorations' 'widgets' , icon sets, and.. somthing else.. :)01:27
lnx_uga , adn windows decorations01:27
Dr_Willisa theme - tells what parts to use. :)01:27
Dr_Willisand you can mixx and match the parts.01:27
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ugalnx_: okay, but those are separate parts. You need to tell what you exactly want to do =)01:27
Dr_Willisand theres a bot factoid on this.. and i never can rember it.01:27
motac_i have got a ubuntu cd01:28
ugalnx_: kcontrol->theme manager->install new theme... and you install _themes_01:28
motac_but i dont like gnome01:28
ugalnx_: but installing styles or window decorations usually requires compiling01:28
ugaif you mean those out of those supplied by kubuntu01:28
ugaor else installing add on packs01:28
motac_i want to turn kubuntu from ubuntu01:28
Dr_Willistheres a lot of themes/parts in the package manager  -not installed by default - also. :)01:29
Dr_Willischeck them out01:29
Dr_Willismotac_ sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop    is the easy way.01:29
lnx_uga , to change the windows decoration ( to get new's ) i know those that kubuntu have default01:29
Dr_Willisonce ya got the system installed.01:29
motac_Dr_Willis hmm for kde4 like this ?01:30
Dr_Williskde4 is not in a useable state at this time.. so i dont touch it. :)01:30
Dr_Willisso NO idea on kde4 setting up.01:30
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motac_hmm :(01:30
ugalnx_: kdeartwork-theme-window - window decoration themes released with KDE01:30
ugakwin-baghira - KDE theme for Apple junkies :)01:31
ugakwin-style-alphacube - Alphacube window decoration for KDE01:31
ugakwin-style-blended - a window decoration theme for KDE01:31
ugakwin-style-dekorator - windows decoration for kde using user-supplied PNG files01:31
ugakwin-style-knifty - knifty window decoration for KDE01:31
ugakwin-style-powder - Powder plasmaoid window decoration for kde01:31
ugakwin-style-serenity - plasmoid inspired window decoration for KDE01:31
motac_Dr_Willis i am really want to try but i cant :)01:31
ugakwin-style-suse2 - KDE window decoration from SUSE 9.301:31
ugalnx_: want more? =)01:31
lnx_uga , ok thanks01:31
ugalnx_: easy to search them btw, just do "apt-cache search decoration"01:31
ugaand you get a nice list01:31
ugalnx_: if you need any out of those, you'll need to build and install them yourself01:32
Dr_Willismotac_ best way to test out kde4 is with a live cd that includes it. :) safest way also.01:32
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motac_Dr_Willis i use Pardus normally and i limited internet user in Turkey :( so i cant download01:33
motac_Dr_Willis this limit is 3 gb01:33
Dr_Willistheres that service that sends out free cd's  -  for kubuntu and ubuntu.01:34
ubotushipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will send Feisty (7.04) CDs01:34
bigleonGood Evening Dr_Willis01:34
motac_Dr_Willis thanx :)01:34
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CaBlGuYanyone awake??01:35
motac_Dr_Willis the packet manager downloaded all kde4 packages but i cant run it :D01:35
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CaBlGuYmy monitor doesn't shut down..  the screen saver just runs all the time..  and I think ubunut installed for a laptop instead of a desktop...01:36
CaBlGuYI need help with that please..01:36
Dr_WillisI thought there was a shutdown monitor setting in the screen saver area/settings.01:36
Dr_Willisyou may need to enable the powersavings features01:37
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rxhmm my screen goes blank after 5mins...how do i turn that off? it looks like it doesnt care about my kde settings01:37
ugauhm... what's this...01:37
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ugathere's amd64 target CDs but none for intel 64 bit?01:37
BluesKajCaBlGuY, most of us who have tha prob just do the ctrl-alt-backspace , then shutdown from the login screen01:38
CaBlGuYDr_Willis:  alrweady have tried that..  it's like the install didn't do it right or something..  the screen saver just keeps running.. and I've got all the poweer settings checked so it should shut down but it doesn't..01:38
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CaBlGuYBluesKaj:  I'm not lookin to shut my system down, I'm just wanting the monitor to shut down after so long..   like it's posed to01:38
ugaDr_Willis: you were talking about 64bit vs 32bit before... do you know anything about intel 64bit built kubuntu packs?01:39
ugaelse I'll have to go back to gentoo01:39
CaBlGuYoh bioy..01:39
CaBlGuYI've tried ot install that like 4 times now.. with no luck..01:39
Dr_WillisCaBlGuY i cant even find the settings..:) im sshed over to the linux box. so that may be confusing the power stuff some.01:39
ugaI Find it strange that there's -amd64 isos yet none for intel01:39
Dr_Willisuga they use the same isos01:40
Dr_Willisthat just means they are 64bit disrots01:40
ugaCaBlGuY: I've been a gentoo user for years01:40
CaBlGuYDr_Willis: Hmmmm01:40
WaltzingAlongdudeicles: regarding pastebin 37459 your xorg.conf likely contains configurations for devices which are present on your system01:40
ugaDr_Willis: ahk. Somebody should update documentation and naming then01:40
Dr_WillisCaBlGuY may want to check the forums.  I use the kpowersaver stuff on my laptop mainly.01:40
CaBlGuYuga:  do you like it and how hard can you get the distro?01:40
Dr_Willisuga the names are the standard now. :)01:40
uga> 64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop CD01:40
uga> Choose this to take full advantage of computers based on the AMD64 or EM64T architecture (e.g., Athlon64, Opteron, EM64T Xeon)01:40
ugaDr_Willis: ^^^^  that's standard?01:41
Dr_Willisusing the term amd64 to mean 64bit. is the standard way of calling them01:41
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ugaheh okay. Lets trust you ;))01:41
ugaCaBlGuY: I dropped gentoo for a good reason, and I'd rather not go back01:41
Biovorebut do note that EM64T and AMD64 are slightly different and small ways..01:41
Dr_Willisthen again. the whome 32/64bit stuff  is a huge mess of confision from the start.01:41
BluesKajCaBlGuY, so system settings/monitor &display/power settings in admin mode won't work ?01:42
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rx[19:44]  <BluesKaj> CaBlGuY, so system settings/monitor &display/power settings in admin mode won't work ? <--- that ruined my xorg.conf01:42
CaBlGuYBluesKaj:  yes, they work but it's just the option for the monitor to shut down after so long.,.  that doesn't work..01:43
Dr_Willisheh - my 'monitor and display' window shows... nothing..:) since im xdmcp'd in to the linux box.01:43
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Dr_WillisI DO recall some check box's somewhere to enable the full powersaving modes...01:43
Dr_Willisthat needed to be admin to enable them01:43
ugaDr_Willis: I find it as silly as naming other packs -pentium instead of x86 ;)01:43
CaBlGuYit's under system/prefer/power managment01:43
BluesKajrx, you obviously had something else wrong in your monitor &display settings to screw up xorg f01:44
Dr_Willisuga of course NOW the CPU names are so clearn. :)01:44
Dr_Willisso clear and  easy to tell which is better then the others. :)01:44
rxhe needs to put option "DPMS" i think in the monitor section01:44
Dr_Willisrx good idea!01:44
Dr_Willisi frogot about that bit.01:44
bigleonGahhh Dr_Willis, i got a window who refuses to close, i even killed the process01:44
ugaDr_Willis: yes, the panorama of naming is confusing. But these things confuse users even more01:44
Dr_Willisbigleon  try xkill01:44
bigleonwell the process is gone01:44
Dr_Willisuga thats good  - that way tey listen to the marketing ads.. not facts. :)01:45
rxi just figured it out myself im trying to do the opposite of what hes doing :P01:45
ugaDr_Willis: users already have trouble to tell if they are running a 32 bit cpu or a 64 one... =)01:45
BluesKajCaBlGuY, that exactly what i mean, the power saving setting is for the monitor01:45
Dr_Willismarketing is the king. :)01:45
ugaDr_Willis: -amd64 is amd marketing, I'd say ;)01:45
bigleonany idea's?01:45
CaBlGuYumm  something else is I've tried to upgrade to 7.04 and the upgrade goes fine but once I reboot, it can't load all the way...  any idea why that would be??01:45
Dr_Willisuga amd had theyr 64bit stuff out way befor.. so :) thats how it happens.01:45
CaBlGuYBluesKaj:  yes, I understand that..  so whats your point?/01:46
lnx_someone know how i can view the preview ?01:46
Dr_Willisof course even now.. 64bit windows vista.. is.. well.. rare. :)01:46
Dr_Willisand pricy.01:46
bigleonCaBIGuy well do you know what last thing it loads b-4 it crashes01:46
ugaDr_Willis: I'm not talking about intel, windows, or anything here. I'm talking about confusing users and undocumenting the site01:46
rxman xorg.conf. with "DPMS" and "BlankTime" and "StandByTime" and "SuspendTime" and "OffTime"01:46
Dr_Willisuga file a bug report i guess. :)01:47
rxaround line ~35001:47
ugaDr_Willis: where to? for the website?01:47
dwidmannDr_Willis, uga: last I checked at the iso download section it was clearly marked at the top that the amd64 iso runs on both amd and intel systems01:47
CaBlGuYbigleon:  yes. I see the Ubuntu splash and then it "freezes" right there and an error comes up after so long saying somehting about xorg can't l,oad and whatnot..01:47
Dr_Willisuga no idea :)  i rarely read the website.01:47
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Dr_Willisi dont touch the 64bit stuff either.01:47
ugaDr_Willis: I mean.... http://ftp.cw.net/pub/linux/ftp.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/feisty/01:48
bigleonProlly because of a video driver error CaBIGuY01:48
ugaits' pretty wrong01:48
ugaDr_Willis: you're sure that those CDs are for any 64bit, RIGHT?01:48
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ugabecause comments say heh01:48
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Biovorethe AMD64 release works on EMT6401:48
CaBlGuYbigleon:  Hmmmm  so, the next realese is next month and "should" take care of that..  correct?01:48
BluesKajCaBlGuY, that really should work if you have you screensaver setup01:49
Dr_WillisChoose this to take full advantage of computers based on the AMD64 or EM64T architecture (e.g., Athlon64, Opteron, EM64T Xeon). If you have a non-64-bit processor made by AMD, or if you need full support for 32-bit code, use the Intel x86 images instead.01:49
CaBlGuYBluesKaj:  well, it's not..   that's why I'm askin about it..  :p01:49
Dr_Willisheck - i am rereading that just to see what its saying.. :)01:49
ugaBiovore: yes, it mentions that, but EMT aren't 64bit cpus afaik01:49
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rxCaBlGuY: did you try what i said?01:50
ugaBiovore: I'm talking about cpus like Core 2 Duo or Core 2 Quad01:50
CaBlGuYrx:  what did you say??01:50
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ugaand they are neither mentioned01:50
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dwidmannuga: Yes. The 64-bit iso runs on all amd64/em64t based computers. Core 2 included.01:51
rxi said do: man xorg.conf. you need to enable Option "DPMS" in the Monitor section. also, read about "BlankTime", "StandByTime", "SuspendTime", "OffTime" in the man pages01:51
Dr_Willishow about my  6502 ! :)01:51
kirkback again for the third time01:51
ugadwidmann: thanks. Although it's confusing to read Core 2 are amd64-based ;)01:51
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ugadwidmann: instruction sets for both are compatible?01:52
Dr_Willisi thought they were.01:52
CaBlGuYrx:  which is greek to me..  I know "some" command line stuff..  but if I need to "build" my packages, or mess around with files, I'm up the creek..  cause I have not learned how to do that yet..01:52
Dr_Willisamazing how compatiable these cpus are - given how different they are getting.01:52
dwidmannuga: yes, though I've read that the em64t instruction set is actually somewhat inferior. Then again, that was on wikipedia so who knows if it was actually right or not.01:52
Dr_Willisim suprised these things even boot.01:53
ugadwidmann: looking for em64t information, I find 32 bit cpus with enhanced extensions01:53
rxCaBlGuY: ok you never edited /etc/xorg.conf right?01:53
ugathat's what confuses me ;)01:53
bigleonQuestion, I'm trying to set up this Domino theme thing. and it tells me to use this "make" command that isn't working, what do i need to do01:53
CaBlGuYrx:  ummmmm  no--01:53
pillowpantshow do you turn openGL on?01:53
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dwidmannuga: I'm confused too. I'll just not investigate further to prevent my head from exploding.01:53
Dr_Willisbigleon install a lot of developer files.. starting with 'build-essential'01:53
pillowpantssomething like 'nvidia-glx enable'?01:53
bigleonSO what should i search in Adept?01:54
Dr_Willisbigleon 'build-essential'01:54
Dr_Willisfor a start.01:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:54
bigleonyeah i found that i ment the rest01:54
CaBlGuYOOPs..  sorry bout the caps..  :-O01:54
ugadwidmann: EMT: Extended Memory Technology, or so01:54
pillowpantsCaBlGuY: yeah, ive got that taken care of01:54
Dr_Willisbigleon that would be looking at the error messages as it compiles/fails :)01:54
Dr_Willisbigleon now ya know why package managers are nice.. and source sucks.01:54
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:54
CaBlGuYpillowpants:  then your openGL should work..01:54
Dr_Willisbigleon or just installing the -dev stuff. :) like i do.. tillit shuts up.01:55
CaBlGuYunless you have a older card..01:55
pillowpantsCaBlGuY: its not, and its giving me trouble01:55
rxCaBlGuY: open Konsole and type: grep DPMS /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:55
pillowpantsi do01:55
CaBlGuYrx:  gimme a sec..01:55
rxif it returns Option "DPMS" its fine then and this is not the problem01:55
pillowpantsCaBlGuY: riva tnt2 model 64, heh01:55
CaBlGuYriva tnt???   Ummmmm   that's old dood..  :p01:55
pillowpantsyeah i know01:56
Dr_Willisthats uber-old. :)01:56
Dr_Willisalmost a collectable!01:56
pillowpantsthats all ive got at the moment01:56
Dr_WillisI got a VooDoo3  somewher! :)01:56
ugadwidmann: here, full info  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-6401:57
CaBlGuYrx:  says, option  DPMS01:57
pillowpantsi was able to get everything working great on my previous dapper drake install01:57
pillowpantsnow that im in fiesty, its giving me a hell of alot of trouble01:57
ugadwidmann:  "who have since renamed it AMD64. This architecture has been cloned by Intel under the name Intel 64 (formerly known as Yamhill, Clackamas Technology (CT), IA-32e, and EM64T)."01:57
rxCaBlGuY: you want your monitor to suspend right?01:57
uga"This leads to the common use of the names x86-64 or x64 as more vendor-neutral terms to collectively refer to the two nearly identical implementations." <------01:57
kirkthis damn thing still isnt working01:57
CaBlGuYrx:  I want it to shut down after say. 25 minutes..01:58
ugaDr_Willis: x64 ought to be the naming ;)01:58
pillowpantsi just want the proprietary drivers to kick in, and openGL and 3d rendering to start working01:58
rxit should...01:58
pillowpantsthe nv driver gives me a headache01:58
pillowpantsthe brightness and default gamma are terrible01:58
CaBlGuYrx:  well it doesn't..  :p01:58
rxCaBlGuY: clean kubuntu install you did yourself?01:58
bigleonDr_Willis it keeps saying no makefile found after running ./config01:58
CaBlGuYit's actually Ubuntu but same prefs..01:59
rxkde or gnome?01:59
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bigleonshouldn't he be unbuntu room not kubuntu?01:59
rxdid you ask in #xorg and in #gnome (irc.gnome.org) ?02:00
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rxoh and #ubuntu of course ;P02:00
CaBlGuYbigleon:  you go into Ubuntu and ask a question..  se how long it takes to get an answer..  ;)02:00
rxsay you have Option "DPMS" in xorg.conf but that doesnt work02:00
bigleonCaBIGuY well then use kubuntu lmao02:00
CaBlGuYrx:  yes'm02:00
bigleonwhere Dr_Willis go?02:01
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kirkany idea why when im trying to format a partition it keeps freezing?02:01
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CaBlGuYbigleon:  I just like hangin out in this room..  people are a lot more friendly than that other ones..  ;)02:01
bigleonCaBIGuY well we are.... i'll admit that02:01
ugakirk: freezes the whole desktop?02:01
ugauhm... something is pretty weird there....02:01
CaBlGuYkirk:  what distro?02:02
ugakirk: did you redo the partitions after formatting /dev/hdb as you did?02:02
kirkkubuntu 7.0402:02
ugaI don't trust what mkfs can do to a whole drive02:02
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kirki deleted the 7.84 MB one02:02
CaBlGuYI dunno..  that's the first time I've heard of the whole system freezing like that..02:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about distro - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:03
kirkthe weird one called hda-102:03
CaBlGuYwhats the name of the new distro?02:04
kirk73% and stopped formatting, and will freeze in a minute02:04
kirkfiesty fawn?02:04
BluesKajwell, there still are some strange power issues in (K)Ubuntu that even the developers admit are troublesome ...they say they have most of the gremlins identified and are procceeding eliminate them in the next release ...gaw\d I hope so02:04
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CaBlGuYno, not Fiesty..   next one do out next month02:05
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kirki dont know02:05
kirki just switched to kubuntu 7.04 from windows, which i've been on my whole life02:05
CaBlGuYkirk:  well GOOD for you!!  :-D02:06
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kirkthanks. i'm lovin it so far02:06
CaBlGuYWelcome to the open source world!02:06
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CaBlGuYand the more you learn, the more you'll love it..02:06
CaBlGuYthat's benn my experience anyway..02:07
CaBlGuYnot to mention it's not proprietary and all..02:07
Dr_WillisThe more linux you lern, the more you relize that windows.. keeps its users.. well.. dumb. :)02:07
kirki can tell, 've been stoned and on here ever since i installed it, havent slept very much02:07
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kirkwhen i'm formatting this partition it gets to about 75% and starts lagging, then freezes02:09
kirki've been trying to add this hd all day02:09
BluesKajkirk, it doesn't hurt to sleep ...gotta stay sharp for the learning curve :)02:09
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CaBlGuYhehe  indeed..02:09
kirki get power naps in here and there02:09
CaBlGuYspecially if it's your first distro..02:10
coreymon77kirk: how old is the drive02:10
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kirkmaybe 2 years02:10
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kirkformatted to 74% and stopped02:11
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ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+102:13
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coreymon77there must be something wrong with the drive02:14
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coreymon77because if this keeps on stalling at the same point02:14
coreymon77i doubt thats coincidence02:15
BluesKajkirk, have you considered using a partition editor like GParted Live CD ?02:15
bigleonWillis  when it tells me to type make i get "make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop."02:15
coreymon77kirk: thats an idea02:16
coreymon77kirk: kubuntu livecds have qtparted included in them02:16
coreymon77try formatting the drive on a livecd02:16
coreymon77they also have konversation on them, so you can talk to us there02:17
dudeiclesanyone here ever have a problem with every other line is black, as to not being able to be read. I can send a SS to show you what I'm seeing.02:17
BluesKajcoreymon77, the GParted Live CD is bootable is really quite easy to use and it's very effective and safer than qtparted from what I've heard .02:17
dudeicleslike my nicklist shows the first name, then the second name is black, the third fine and so on02:17
coreymon77BluesKaj: ya, but the kubuntu livecd also has konv on it02:18
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coreymon77BluesKaj: so he can still talk to us02:18
bigleon Blueskag i got this error "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!02:18
BluesKajI've used Gparted alot , but gotta say I've never tried qtparted02:18
coreymon77BluesKaj: and ive never had problems with qtparted02:18
bigleonhow do i set it up? i'm trying to install this domino 4.0 thing02:19
coreymon77BluesKaj: the main reason im suggesting the kubuntu livecd is the fact that it also has konversation on it, so he can still get help from us while on it02:19
coreymon77where'd he go?02:20
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BluesKajyeah, coreymon77 , understood02:20
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martijn81tribe6 isn't released yet, will it still be released?02:20
BluesKajsorry bigleon , not familiar with domino 4.0  "thing"02:21
dudeiclesBluesKaj: think you could help me?02:21
coreymon77martijn81: no, there isno formal release for tribe 602:21
BluesKajdudeicles, dunno ,depends what it is :)02:22
Daisuke_Laptopnext will beta, i assume.02:22
coreymon77martijn81: but you can ask for a approx in #ubuntu+1 probably02:22
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dudeiclesBluesKaj:  can I send you the SS of what my niclist looks like?02:22
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martijn81coreymon77: next release will be beta on 27 september?02:23
dudeiclesthis isn't only happening in Konv,  it happens in other programs as well.02:23
coreymon77martijn81: i dont know, im not te person to ask02:23
dudeiclesyou know hold on and i'll try to post it up to flikr02:23
Daisuke_Laptopvirtualbox is pretty nice02:24
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:24
kyubiiihello, im having a problem with the flash plugin  i cant watch any videos with firefox and Opera any1 cna hlep?02:24
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Daisuke_Laptopwhich flash plugin did you install?02:25
CaBlGuYok, im out guys..  ttyl--  0/02:25
dudeiclesBluesKaj: that's only text02:25
dudeicleshere's the link02:25
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kirkfroze again02:25
kirkat 75%02:26
kirkanyone know why it keeps freezing and not letting me format the partition02:26
kirkmaybe a bad sector on the disk?02:27
kirkerrr.. i dunnooooo02:27
coreymon77kirk: you on the livecd?02:27
kirkno no, im just adding this hd for storage02:27
kirkim not wanting to put an os on the disk02:27
coreymon77kirk: i know02:28
coreymon77kirk: but still02:28
kirkno i have kubuntu installed02:28
BluesKajdudeicles , konverstion/settings/configure konverstion/nicklist themes02:28
coreymon77kirk: the kubuntu livecd has qtparted included on it02:28
coreymon77kirk: i know02:28
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dudeiclesBluesKaj: It's not only Konversation though02:28
coreymon77kirk: but maybe the fact that you are running it from your hard drive is causing the problems02:29
coreymon77kirk: run off the livecd and use qtparted from there02:29
coreymon77kirk: it might work02:29
dudeiclesBluesKaj: I did that just now and now the icons look different but the black lines are still there.02:29
coreymon77kirk: but02:29
dudeicleslet me upload another pic from a different program02:29
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coreymon77kirk: the livecd also has konversation on it02:29
coreymon77kirk: so you can still talk to us02:29
coreymon77kirk: of course, youd have to connect02:30
coreymon77kirk: to the internet02:30
kirki will02:30
kirkbrb 1 sec02:30
kyubiiiany1 had any problems with the flashplugin???02:30
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BluesKajdudeicles, system settings/appearance ...look around in ther for different themes settings and icon settings etc02:30
dudeiclesBluesKaj: k will see if that's it.02:31
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dudeiclesBluesKaj: That doesn't work either.02:32
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dudeiclesBluesKaj: Have you ever seen anything like that?02:33
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Daisuke_Laptopwell THAT was unpleasant.02:34
motac_thanx so much :) i am on kubuntu now02:34
bigleonDr_Willis if you see people looking for help on domino, have them check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=546172 :D02:34
bigleonthat way you can't go, "I have no idea " lmao02:34
Daisuke_Laptopinstalling xp in virtualbox, *everything* hung and i had to perform an unpleasantly hard reboot.02:34
Dr_willis_I dont even know what Domino IS :)02:34
bigleonit's for KDE GUI02:35
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Daisuke_Laptopit's a song by KISS, duh02:35
llivavinHrm firefox install help anyone?02:35
Dr_willis_sudo apt-get install firefox02:35
Daisuke_Laptopwow, that does look rather nice02:36
llivavinThat and err My wireless card wont connect to the router02:36
Daisuke_Laptophowever, i'm not much for the massive window borders02:36
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llivavinalways stop at 28%02:36
bigleonlol thats never a tuff one WIllis haha02:36
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coreymon77kirk: your back02:37
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kirkyes, on livecd now, gonna try to format again02:37
llivavinCan anyone help me with my wireless problem?02:38
kirkpartition type ext3 right02:38
dudeiclesBluesKaj: No ideas bud?02:38
llivavinEveryones bitching at me because Im using the lan line that normaly goes to the family computer >.<02:38
kirkok here we go, lets see what happens02:38
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dudeiclesguess BluesKaj left. heh02:39
BluesKajnope , no clue02:39
dudeiclesweird huh?02:40
kirkup to 71% now dragging02:40
kirksame as usual02:40
WaltzingAlongsudo aptitude install firefox02:40
dudeiclesI uninstalled KDE then installed it again.02:40
WaltzingAlongllivavin: yes we can02:40
coreymon77llivavin: what wireless card02:40
coreymon77kirk: no luck02:41
llivavinone sec02:41
llivavinlet me go get the thing02:41
kirk72%, but it's acting the same02:41
kirkit'll freeze up at 75% in a few minutes02:41
dudeicleskirk: Is that the Ubuntu install?02:41
coreymon77dudeicles: no, drive format02:41
dudeiclesmine did the same exact thing02:41
kirkno, im trying to format a partition02:41
Dr_willis_Freeze? Hmm.. use 'dmesg'  in a terminal window. to see whats going on. If any messages show up.02:41
dudeiclesmine froze installing Ubuntu02:42
coreymon77Dr_willis_: the format always freezing at the same point02:42
kirkmy system is installed fine, im just trying to add a hd02:42
Dr_willis_make 2 partions. :P one at about 60% the drive space..  other 40% heh....02:42
Dr_willis_i would say check dmesg when it 'freezes'02:43
Dr_willis_how big is this HD?02:43
llivavinmy card is a dlink02:43
Dr_willis_that shouldent take more then a min or 2 to format I think. :)02:43
llivavinas for what model02:43
llivavinno clue02:43
coreymon77Dr_willis_: he couldnt make any partitions, so we told him to reformat02:43
kirk[  223.929340]  hda-intel: Invalid position buffer, using LPIB read method instead.02:43
coreymon77llivavin: chipset?02:43
Dr_willis_coreymon77,  this is sounding worse and worse all the time.02:44
kirkthat was the dmesg02:44
Dr_willis_kirk, .. odd....02:44
llivavincoreymon77:  Huh?02:44
Dr_willis_might want to google for that  message.02:44
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coreymon77llivavin: desktop or laptop?02:45
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WaltzingAlongllivavin: usb? pci?             lsusb            lspci02:45
coreymon77Dr_willis_: you think the drive is messed?02:45
Dr_willis_coreymon77,  sounding weird to me.. but not sure if that  message is sortof bad.. or Very bad.. or just a warning.02:46
kirkthe drive was working and i saved all the data off it this morning02:46
coreymon77llivavin: okay, type lspci and put the output on pastebin02:46
dudeiclesBluesKaj: how's this for weird. I opened another window and the nicklist looks fine.02:46
Dr_willis_thing about hard drives.. they can die at ANY TIME..02:46
llivavinots Linksys02:46
Dr_willis_:) ive had them die while i was running an OS on them.02:46
Dr_willis_click-click-CLUNK... dead...02:46
coreymon77llivavin: type lspci in konsole and pastebin the output02:47
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coreymon77kirk: i think the drive might be ready to go the way of the floppy02:47
coreymon77kirk: if you know what i mean02:47
Dr_willis_heck i got a stack of bigger hds here id give ya. :)02:47
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Daisuke_Laptop150mb or 150gb02:48
pillowpantsis it possible to get windows to recognize a linux partition?02:48
coreymon77pillowpants: depends02:48
Daisuke_Laptoppillowpants: short answer, yes but02:48
coreymon77what fs?02:48
WaltzingAlongpillowpants: yes, depends on the filesystem though02:49
pillowpantsjust to access files02:49
coreymon77what fs02:49
pillowpantsits ext302:49
llivavin== one i havbe02:49
Daisuke_Laptopthen yes, but it's a pain and it makes me want to cry every time i attempt it02:49
pillowpantsthats a bummer02:49
Daisuke_Laptopbigger question: this is on the same pc?02:49
pillowpantsi have alot of music on here id like to cross over02:49
coreymon77llivavin: you could have done the lspci suggestion02:49
Daisuke_Laptoppillowpants: what you CAN do is create a fat32 partition and do it that way02:50
pillowpantsyeah, ive considered that02:50
coreymon77pillowpants: its called cut a little bit off of your drive, format it as fat32 and use it as shared storage02:50
pillowpantsbut im a little sparce on space02:50
WaltzingAlongpillowpants: or ext202:50
coreymon77pillowpants: thats what i do02:50
Daisuke_Laptopin that case, both operating systems can see it and use it with no problems02:50
pillowpantsext2 is reconginzed? WaltzingAlong?02:50
pillowpantsDaisuke_Laptop: ill probably end up doing that02:51
kirkok heres what happened....02:51
pillowpantswell thanks guys, but i have to be off02:51
kirk[  223.929340]  hda-intel: Invalid position buffer, using LPIB read method instead.02:51
kirk[  996.393843]  hdb: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x6102:51
kirk[ 1036.908870]  hdb: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x6002:51
kirk[ 1036.908879]  hdb: DMA timeout retry02:51
kirk[ 1036.908881]  hdb: timeout waiting for DMA02:51
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:51
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coreymon77llivavin: thats simple02:52
llivavinGoogle helped me02:53
coreymon77your wireless card works out of the box02:53
martijn81have a good night all!02:53
llivavinthen why does it stop02:53
llivavinat 28%02:53
coreymon77what are you talking about02:54
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coreymon77why does what stop02:54
llivavinWhen ever i try to connect02:54
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llivavinIt stop at 28% connecting02:54
coreymon77llivavin: what is "it"02:54
BluesKajDaisuke_Laptop, what doesn't pillowpants just install ntfs-3g & ntfs-config unless he's running w98 on the windows partition , or did I miss something ?02:54
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llivavincoryman the wireless config thing02:54
hitmanWillyllivavin is your router set up correctly?02:55
coreymon77llivavin: what, knetwork manager?02:55
coreymon77llivavin: try this02:55
llivavincoreymon77:  the one that came with it?02:55
Daisuke_LaptopBluesKaj: because he's wanting to share FROM linux with windows, not vice versa02:55
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llivavinhitmanWilly: Yes its set up correctly02:55
coreymon77llivavin: do you know what your essid and wep key are?02:55
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash02:55
llivavinI dont use Wep keys02:55
hitmanWillyllivavin wpa?02:55
coreymon77do you use any sort of key?02:55
WaltzingAlongpillowpants: there is a program that can be used to access ext2. it can also access ext3 from ms windows but with ext3 the journal needs to be rebuilt (if changes are made)02:56
llivavini have to many people over02:56
llivavinat once02:56
BluesKajwell there's that EXt3 program that one can use in windows to access linux partitions02:56
llivavinto use a key02:56
coreymon77llivavin: well thats dumb on its on, but, thats another issue02:56
coreymon77llivavin: anyways02:56
coreymon77llivavin: type iwconfig in konsole02:56
Daisuke_Laptopthen go wpa02:56
coreymon77Daisuke_Laptop: that particular driver has issues with wpa02:56
coreymon77llivavin: did you do that?02:57
coreymon77llivavin: does ra0 show up anywhere there?02:57
llivavinra1 does02:57
Daisuke_Laptopunless you live far far away from everyone and far enough back from the road that wardriving retards can't hijack your connection, you should really have some sort of protection...02:57
llivavinDaisuke_Laptop:  Im surounded by rednecks02:57
llivavincompleatly surounded02:57
coreymon77Daisuke_Laptop: thats another issue, lets work on getting the wireless working first02:57
llivavinI doubt any of them can figure out how to use it-.-02:58
coreymon77llivavin: anyways02:58
coreymon77llivavin: type this in konsole02:58
hitmanWillyllivavin don't be so sure, i live in backwoods tennessee, and thought the same thing you do...until my wifi got hijacked02:58
coreymon77sudo iwconfig ra1 essid [your essid] 02:58
coreymon77hitmanWilly: later02:58
coreymon77hitmanWilly: lets work on getting it working first02:59
llivavinlet me go plug in my router  >.> i had to bring the modem into where my comp is02:59
coreymon77internet should work now02:59
coreymon77llivavin: !!!!!!!02:59
llivavincoreymon77: I had to bring the modem into my room03:00
coreymon77llivavin: and you are wondering why your wifis not working03:00
llivavinto be able to talk to you03:00
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llivavinim not that fucking stupid03:00
llivavinIt wouldn't work03:00
llivavinbefore i did this03:00
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.03:00
llivavinAnything else03:00
llivavini should do03:00
llivavinyou should tell me?03:00
coreymon77first plug in the router03:01
BluesKajDaisuke_Laptop, I knew there was a read/write app one can run in windows to access linux = Ext2Fsd !03:01
Daisuke_Laptopyeah, but i don't trust it :)03:01
coreymon77BluesKaj: ya ext203:01
coreymon77BluesKaj: not 303:01
BluesKajhey it's windows , how can it be trusted anyway :)03:02
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coreymon77llivavin: routr plugged in?03:03
BluesKajcoreymon77, I tried that app along time back and it worked, but i spend 99% of my time on Kubuntu so there's no need.03:03
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llivavin_ok now.03:08
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LlivavinOk, Now what do i do.03:08
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dudeiclesBluesKaj: when I restarted konversation the problem stopped.03:09
Llivavincoreymon77: help now?03:11
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coreymon77router plugged in03:11
kirki'm out of patience, i give up03:11
coreymon77kirk: i think the hd is dead03:11
coreymon77Llivavin: router plugged in03:11
kirkit was just working, right before i tried to format it03:12
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hitmanWillykirk have you fscked it?03:12
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Llivavino.O router shit out on me03:13
hitmanWillykirk you may want to try that03:13
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fschk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:13
stdin!language | Llivavin03:13
coreymon77Llivavin: didnt we tell you about watching your language?03:13
ubotuLlivavin: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.03:13
hitmanWillykirk what are you on now?03:13
kirkkubuntu 7.0403:13
coreymon77Llivavin: anyways03:13
hitmanWillykirk drive is on the system?03:13
coreymon77Llivavin: so, is the router plugged in?03:13
coreymon77!fsck | kirk03:14
ubotukirk: fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot03:14
Llivavincoreymon77:  when i try to connect using the network manager it says activation stage configuring device. and then stops03:14
coreymon77Llivavin: dont use network manager, it sucks03:14
coreymon77Llivavin: use the iwconfig command03:14
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hitmanWillykirk ok, sudo fsck /dev/<device>03:14
coreymon77Llivavin: sudo iwconfig ra1 essid [your essid] 03:15
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LlivavinI have03:15
LlivavinIt doesnt do anything.03:15
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:15
coreymon77Llivavin: yes it does03:15
coreymon77Llivavin: that connects you to your network03:15
LlivavinOk.. now how would i check.03:15
coreymon77hitmanWilly: whats the matter wth iwconfig03:16
coreymon77Llivavin: type the command03:16
coreymon77Llivavin: then try pinging google03:16
coreymon77Llivavin: and if that doesnt work, try pinging your router03:16
hitmanWillycoreymon77, i was referring to the fsck cmd03:16
coreymon77Llivavin: of course, take out the lan line cable before pinging03:17
Llivavin... I could just do an easer test03:17
coreymon77Llivavin: take out the cable, run the command, ping03:17
Llivavinand see if i disconnect from IRC03:17
hitmanWillyactually, iwconfig by itself should show weather its up or not03:17
coreymon77Llivavin: and you do know to replace [your essid]  with your essid right?03:17
kirkheres output from fsck http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37465/03:17
coreymon77Llivavin: just try doing what i said03:18
coreymon77Llivavin: take out the cable, run the command, ping google, ping your router03:18
kirkbad majic number in super block - I'm Lost!03:18
coreymon77kirk: as i said, your drive is dead03:18
hitmanWillykirk ok, you've got a corrupted super block there...03:18
hitmanWillykirk you could try reformatting it, but yeah, its probably dead03:19
coreymon77hitmanWilly: reformatting stalls at the same point every time03:19
hitmanWillyah..k, dead drive03:19
kirkthat sucks, was just working earlier03:19
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coreymon77hitmanWilly: pm03:20
coreymon77llivavin_: no?03:20
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llivavinIt did not work03:21
coreymon77llivavin: you know what, i tried, this is a general linux question, try in ##linux03:22
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kirkok this is weird.........03:24
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bigleonanybody fimilar with KBFX03:26
kirki think i found the problem corey03:26
hitmanWillybigleon, yeah, i use it, what's up03:26
bigleonhitmanWilly I can't get mine to work03:27
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llivavinOk, New problem why is it saying the graphics drivers arn't installed03:27
bigleonI got a kfbx theme and it "installed" but i'm not seeing any changes03:27
hitmanWillybigleon, what's the problem?03:27
llivavini thought Ubuntu had the nvidia ones allready in?03:27
kirkhitmanwilly: will u check this for me... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/374603:28
hitmanWillybigleon, did you configure it to use the new theme?03:28
bigleonnot sure how XD03:28
bigleoni figure i select it then "apply"03:28
hitmanWillykirk, page not found03:28
Dr_willis_bigleon,   KBFX (thats the K menu replacement thing right)03:28
Dr_willis_!info kbfx03:28
ubotukbfx: an alternative to K-Menu for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version (feisty), package size 1268 kB, installed size 3748 kB03:28
hitmanWillyDr_willis_, yup03:28
Dr_willis_bigleon,  Ive never seen anyone that can get it working right. :)03:29
Dr_willis_we tried in here a few months ago. heh03:29
bigleonThats ummmm03:29
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bigleonHey I did too03:29
kirkit has two lines with hdb1 on it03:29
bigleonDid that link i posted help ya WIllis?03:29
Dr_willis_I hate the OS-X circle buttons.03:29
Dr_willis_bigleon,  i allready had all the stuff installed it mentioned. :)03:29
Dr_willis_they also dont mention the color scheme that it dident seem to install.03:30
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hitmanWillykirk, id say comment out the ntfs one, and try it with that03:30
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bigleonI got the color scheme to work03:30
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bigleonyou just gotta check file make sure there is no spaces in it's "name"03:31
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mrksbrdcan someone help me w/my @%#^%^ wifi card, connects to router, but cannot get ip address....already tried static, dhcp....everyhing@@@@@@@03:32
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nosrednaekimmrksbrd: what chipset?03:36
mrksbrdlet me get it for u03:36
mrksbrdbut i know it is one that is supported..03:36
mrksbrd02:02.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection (rev 05)03:37
nosrednaekimhello vladimir_03:37
mrksbrdhere's the thing...it was working...then ran a few updates/installs & now not working03:37
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vladimir_<nosrednaekim> Hello03:38
nosrednaekimmrksbrd: any kernel updates?03:38
mrksbrdnot that I can remember.....what is the command in terminal to see what kernal u have?03:39
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nosrednaekimuname -a03:40
nosrednaekimit should also be on your grub menu when you boot up.03:40
mrksbrdLinux IBM-laptop 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Fri Aug 31 00:55:27 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux03:41
mrksbrdgrub doesn't show it03:41
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nosrednaekimmrksbrd: hmm ok.03:42
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nosrednaekimI think thats the original kernel.03:42
mrksbrdyea i think so03:42
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mrksbrdi know they have a new one out but unsure on how to properly install it using terminal.....none of the update progs have ever offered to upgrade kernel03:43
nosrednaekimmrksbrd: what happens when you do dhclient <netowrk device>03:43
mrksbrdlemme check03:44
xp_killerstdin: how do i uninstall in a konsole?03:45
Dr_willis_sudo apt-get remove stufftoremove03:46
stdinxp_killer: you don't want to03:46
xp_killerDr_willis_: ok03:46
Dr_willis_ubuntu basics. :)03:46
Dr_willis_time to read up on apt-get ussage03:46
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xp_killerstdin: why?03:46
stdinxp_killer: because it's a core part of KDE03:46
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stdinand Adept needs it03:46
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xp_killerlol i know that but i just want to know how to remove in a konsole :)03:47
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mrksbrdnosred...that is what the return was03:49
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jmdcis anyone here using the kde4 beta?03:50
nosrednaekimno no, run "sudo dhclient eth1" or eth2 or whatever iwconfig shows as your wireless device.03:50
nosrednaekimjmdc: yeah03:50
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mrksbrdoh ok....duh03:51
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nosrednaekimits ok... we all learn that sometime :)03:52
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aliasrushnosrednaekim: how stable is it right now?03:53
nosrednaekimaliasrush: hmmm excuse me.. I use beta1... haven't tried beta two yet03:53
jmdcnosrednaekim: I installed kdebase-workspace, and copied the session file over, as per the announcment. That didn't install very much stuff though.03:53
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nosrednaekimjmdc: sorry I forgot.. I use beta1... so i'm not sure what you have to do.03:54
jmdcwell, I think I just need to install more packages, I was just wondering if anyone here had done that03:54
aliasrushnosrednaekim: are you involved at all with the development of it.... do you program?03:54
nosrednaekimI program... but no.03:55
nosrednaekimI'll probably start writing programs once it becomes stable (4.0)03:55
aliasrushso how is it looking?03:55
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mrksbrdNOS did u see that last paste??03:57
xp_killerstdin: everytime i add something to a text there's another file that apears next to it name the same but with a " - " at the end.how do i stop that file from apearing everytime i modify a txt?03:57
nosrednaekimmrksbrd: yep...03:58
stdinxp_killer: it adds a '~' and it's a setting in kate03:58
nosrednaekimmrksbrd: pastebin your iwconfig03:58
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llivavinOk can someone help me with my graphics driver problem?03:59
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llivavinSeeing as its nivida geforce it should have worked right out03:59
llivavinand allowed me to go higher then 800x60003:59
r3dn3x0rllivavin, with waht driver?03:59
BluesKajxp_killer, areyou saving the file after editing ? I04:00
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Powerking89670hey everyone, does anyone have experiance with LAMP and some time to help me out?04:00
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BluesKaj!lamp | Powerking8967004:01
ubotuPowerking89670: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)04:01
Powerking89670Tried it04:01
Powerking89670didnt help, still wants me to download the php file after I do all the steps04:01
Powerking89670Ive tried several times at that...04:01
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fastaireI'm totally new to linux, so bear with me. I'm planning on switching over as soon as ALSA's next release comes out, as it will have support for my soundcard.04:03
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nosrednaekimmrksbrd: stupid q..... is your wireless switch on?04:04
fastaireWith KDE is it possible to set the "taskbar," if that is what you call the main launchbar, to autohide when your mouse isn't over it? Is it also possible to move it to the side of the monitor rather than at the bottom?04:04
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r3dn3x0rfastaire, yes and yes04:04
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fastairer3dn3x0r, thank you very much!04:05
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r3dn3x0rfastaire, right click it and "configure panel"04:05
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fastairethank you very much! One more question, is it necessary to have a firewall or antivirus with Kubuntu as in Windows?04:06
r3dn3x0rfastaire, firewall, yes, av, no04:06
stdinfastaire: firewall isn't actually necessary, only if you run open services04:07
r3dn3x0rfastaire, you will probably never have a virus problem on nix04:07
gnomefreakiptables works fine so no need to install firewall, you can get gui config for iptables if needed04:07
fastaireright on, thanks a lot for all the info so quickly04:07
r3dn3x0rfastaire, common questions04:07
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xp_killerstdin: i dont see where in kate i can deactivat the backup file from apearring :(04:08
stdinxp_killer: look in the settings04:08
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coreymon77llivavin: any luck?04:08
stdinxp_killer: under Open/Save04:09
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coreymon77llivavin: hello?04:10
nosrednaekimhey coreymon77, were you approved?04:10
coreymon77nosrednaekim: yup!04:11
nosrednaekimsweet.. :)04:11
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mrksbrd1NOS....don't know what happened there04:14
mrksbrd1now this is the other wierd thing.......sometimes after a few mins after connecting it will obtain an ip, last several attempts have failed.....when I just re-connected.....i have an ip, as soon as I reboot, problem starts all over again.....this is what is confusing me04:14
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nosrednaekimmrksbrd1: I have to go.... sorry..... talk to coreymon7704:15
mrksbrd1so now I have an ip, but still unable to connect to internet04:15
r3dn3x0rmrksbrd, can you ping ip addresses?04:16
mrksbrd1let me check04:16
r3dn3x0rmrksbrd1, if you can its a dns issue04:16
mrksbrd1yes can ping04:16
mrksbrd1w/router or wifi card??04:17
coreymon77llivavin: any luck?04:17
r3dn3x0rmrksbrd, did you ping an actual internet ip?04:17
mrksbrd1no local04:17
r3dn3x0rmrksbrd, or a local one?04:17
mrksbrd1hold on04:17
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coreymon77llivavin: you there?04:18
mrksbrd1ping'd yahoo.com & sending back responses04:18
rrbizdang i don't want to install opera just for it's fit to width feature, konqueror is my fav but some web pages are too wide04:18
Dr_willis_rrbiz,  gee. i never seen that.04:18
r3dn3x0rmrksbrd, the name or the actual ip?04:18
Dr_willis_You got a small monitor?04:18
llivavinI think my computer needs a manual DNS thing input04:19
r3dn3x0rmrksbrd, ok, dns is working then04:19
rrbiz1024x800 but like having few winows open, not just browser04:19
Dr_willis_Ive seen some badly written web sites that scroll to the sides when they shouldent.  :) but i also have wide screen monitors.04:19
mrksbrd1ya know what.....duh04:19
r3dn3x0rmrksbrd, assuming you're actually getting responses then04:19
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Dr_willis_rrbiz,  try some virtual desktops? i just tend to fullsize everything, then switch desktops04:19
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mrksbrd1was prolly going thru my aircard...have to disc....brb04:19
rrbizdon't know why only Opera is the best at handeling screwing websites04:20
mrksbrd1brb r304:20
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coreymon77llivavin: the people in #debian might be able to help04:20
Dr_willis_rrbiz,  they focused on that feature becuase they also got opera for phones, and the Wii, and the GBDS04:20
coreymon77llivavin: try there04:20
Dr_willis_rrbiz,   i guess. :)04:20
rrbizyeah they surely got it down real nice04:20
Dr_willis_rrbiz,  i was thinking there was a beryl, or was it mettis (metisse) desktop feature that could zoom/reduce any window.04:21
rrbizif konqueror could do that i'd really have it made04:21
Dr_willis_which seemed like a neat. but not too useable feature. :)04:21
coreymon77llivavin: hello?04:21
rrbizDr_willis_: yeah that's another way around it if so04:21
Dr_willis_write the web site makers and complaine! :)04:22
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Powerking89670question: I do not need apache to use apache2 right?04:22
rrbizlol, that'd be all, it's more of the browsers04:22
mrksbrdok pings locally but not on the net!!!04:22
coreymon77llivavin: you around?04:22
Powerking89670because for some reason I dont understand and will prolly never understand apache2 decides NOT to give me an http.conf file04:22
r3dn3x0rmrksbrd, check the router settings, make sure those are set up correctly04:23
mrksbrdI HATE COMPUTERS!!!!!!!!!04:23
Dr_willis_mrksbrd,  take up golf.04:23
bigleonI love them with a slightly disturbing passion J/k04:23
Dr_willis_Then you can hit the PC with a 7 iron!04:24
mrksbrdI get too opissed @ that too....04:24
Dr_willis_Use the Driver on the Mouse!04:24
mrksbrdprolly take up underwater dancing04:24
coreymon77mouse drivers!04:24
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Dr_willis_coreymon77,  :)04:24
Dr_willis_A use for all those old Mouse Balls.04:24
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Dr_willis_I bet those would fly!04:24
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mrksbrdr3 ty for attempting to help me....my patients are shot, i'm getting ready to throw this thing in the air & see how far I can hit it04:31
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mike-kubuntuhey, for some reason ddclient is not on my list of boot services to enable, i had it installed and then uninsalled and reinstalled, any tips on how to get it back on the list of boot services and somehow keep it running?04:32
Powerking89670mrksbrd im about to do the same based on the crap im having with LAMP04:32
mike-kubuntuor make sure it is indeed runing when i use dhcp?04:32
mike-kubuntuez-ipupdate is available as a service but i don't think that is the same as ddclient04:32
mrksbrdI don't understand how things can be working, then on next reboot everything goes haywire......I thought windows was bad!!!!04:33
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mrksbrdgues there is nothing as a "perfect os"04:34
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Powerking89670mrksbrd, linux is better than windows, however, if you mess up in linux you useually end up with bigger problams04:35
Powerking89670windows is designed to do everything for you, linux is designed for you to configure everything04:35
mrksbrdamazin how i can get an unsuported aircard to work...but a simple wifi is kicking my butt!!!!04:36
Powerking89670its preferance, if you like your stuff handed to you preconfigured to someone else's liking, you get windows, if not, get linux04:36
mrksbrdi know it's better, i'm just pissed right now...i would never go back to windows04:36
Powerking89670oh, I know im just being myself04:37
Powerking89670I get like that when im frustrated too, but id never insult tux!04:37
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Powerking89670you better, or he'll have you killed on reboot04:38
mrksbrdlol....prolly already in the worx04:39
r3dn3x0rhey, that's GNU/Tux to you, mister :P04:39
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llivavinnow then04:40
llivavinI think everything is finaly fixed04:40
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intelikeyhow long do usb flash drives generally last ?04:41
r3dn3x0rintelikey, who knows?04:41
Powerking89670I swear, this is killing me, im about to go break some necks, im flamboozled...flabbergasted...04:41
mrksbrdmy problem is i don't know enough of the internal workings w/this os yet & it just frustrated the h*** out of me when something worx & a flip of a dime it doesn't anymore04:41
Powerking89670ive tried every possible method of isntalling LAMP save doing it by hand04:41
Powerking89670and its like im pulling teeth04:41
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r3dn3x0rllivavin, what was the problem, out of curiosity04:42
intelikeymrksbrd pie crust promise04:42
mneptokmrksbrd: http://www.savoirfairelinux.com/english/news/articles/formation-ubuntu-professional-en-ligne/04:44
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intelikeyoh another 3lit3 club for 633k504:45
mneptokintelikey: ?04:46
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mrksbrdmneptok, will look into that04:46
r3dn3x0rllivavin, you there?04:47
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mrksbrdwell goodnight all!!!!04:48
r3dn3x0rwow, i must have like psychic powers or something...04:48
llivavin_everything is fixed04:48
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llivavin_but drivers...04:48
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r3dn3x0rllivavin, what for?04:48
llivavin_Nvidia geforce 6500 LE04:48
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llivavin_Anyone help?04:48
r3dn3x0rllivavin, ok, you want the proprietary nvidia ones, right?04:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jarnal - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:49
llivavin_What do you mean?04:49
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r3dn3x0rllivavin_, you want the accelerated nvidia drivers, correct?04:50
llivavin_Doesn't matter to me.04:50
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r3dn3x0rllivavin_, well, you already have the open ones, or at least should04:50
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llivavin_Well.... err04:50
mneptokllivavin_: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep nv04:51
llivavin_they didn't work04:51
mneptokllivavin_: paste that one line to the channel, please04:51
r3dn3x0r!doesn't work | llivavin_04:51
ubotullivavin_: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.04:51
intelikeymneptok cat to grep     tisk tisk...04:51
coreymon77mneptok: r3dn3x0r can take care of this one04:51
giovanihello everyone -- I'm having some audio problems -- I'm able to play audio in amarok just fine, but every other application has no volume ... no errors though, any ideas?04:51
llivavin_Damn it, I forgot to back up my firefox settings/themes before i reformated D:04:52
r3dn3x0rllivavin_, in other words, how doesn't it work?04:52
r3dn3x0rllivavin_, or what are you trying to do, exactly04:52
Powerking89670WOOT! I got lamp working, FINALLY04:52
llivavin_r3dn3x0r:  It just didnt work04:52
llivavin_im trying to get my res back to 1280x102404:53
Powerking89670reading man pages helps....lets me know about the purge option04:53
r3dn3x0rllivavin_, ok, you may need the proprietary ones to go that high04:53
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llivavin_Ok, Now how would i get them.04:53
r3dn3x0rllivavin_, ok, open up a konsole04:54
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coreymon77Powerking89670: thats what man pages are for04:54
intelikey"nv" driver can do at least 1600x120004:54
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r3dn3x0rintelikey, really? hmmm04:54
llivavin_ok console open04:54
intelikeyr3dn3x0r yes.04:54
aJaxsin which directory does kdmrc reside ?04:55
r3dn3x0rllivavin_, ok, lets try something else first, pastebin xorg.conf please04:55
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mneptokllivavin_: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep nv04:55
mneptokllivavin_: paste that one line to the channel, please04:55
Powerking89670I swear, im so happy...I love you all!04:55
llivavin_Driver          "nv"04:55
llivavin_that what you want mneptok?04:56
r3dn3x0rllivavin_, ok, you're running the open one, then04:56
mneptokllivavin_: you are using the open-source, 2D only driver. do you want 3D capabilities?04:56
intelikeyaJaxs don't think you have one.    $HOME/.kdmrc  would be a good guess but you won't find that.    you may want the .conf file    /etc/kde*/kdm/04:56
wersthe "bit" of video cards determine what? screen refresh rate?04:56
mneptokllivavin_: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new04:56
r3dn3x0rllivavin_, ok, you need the proprietary ones, then04:57
mneptokwers: color depth04:57
r3dn3x0rmneptok, for a 6200?04:57
mneptokr3dn3x0r: yeah, i *think* that's new enough04:57
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wersthanks mneptok04:57
r3dn3x0rmneptok, maybe, well, we can give it a shot, i guess04:57
mneptokroll back to nvidia-glx if it makes The Anger Face04:58
llivavin_E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)04:58
llivavin_E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?04:58
mneptokllivavin_: close Adept or any other update apps04:58
llivavin_Oh i had synpatic open04:58
mneptokthat ... would do it04:58
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llivavin_Ok, Thats done04:59
llivavin_now what04:59
mneptokllivavin_: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new04:59
llivavin_Did that04:59
llivavin_I ment after that04:59
mneptokllivavin_: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep nv04:59
mneptokllivavin_: paste that one line to the channel, please04:59
mneptok(sound familiar?) ;)04:59
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llivavin_That it?04:59
mneptokllivavin_: what did it return?05:00
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llivavin_ Driver          "nv"05:00
intelikeyyes it does.  and i'll be a little more blunt     grep nv /etc/X11/xorg.conf    would look better and do the same thing.05:00
r3dn3x0rllivavin_, ok, looks like you need to edit xorg.conf05:00
CheshireKotmake it "nvidia"05:00
intelikeyless useless plumbing05:00
r3dn3x0rintelikey, agreed05:00
llivavin_r3dn3x0r:  Tell me what to do now...05:01
CheshireKotchange this string for "nvidia" and restart X-s05:01
mneptokmy suspiscion is that if xorg.conf wasn't updated, -new is missing the 6200 goodies05:01
r3dn3x0rllivavin_, in a konsole, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:01
r3dn3x0rmneptok, apt doesn't auto update xorg05:01
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mneptokr3dn3x0r: yes, it does.05:02
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mneptokr3dn3x0r: or, rather, it should05:02
r3dn3x0rmneptok, not in my experience, or is that something new?05:02
intelikeyonly if it has not been edited.05:02
mneptokintelikey: "manually edited"05:02
llivavin_What do i put under driver r3dn3x0r05:02
r3dn3x0rllivavin_, nvidia05:02
intelikeyis there another kind ?05:02
mneptokintelikey: it will still make changes if another apt process changed the file05:03
holycowi think i actually broke dpkg05:03
llivavin_That it r3dn3x0r?05:03
coreymon77to quote you name05:03
coreymon77how did you do that05:03
Daisuke_Laptopsweet, now i can do my homework without relying on my fiancee's laptop05:03
holycowE: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.05:03
holycowrunning that command you get:05:03
r3dn3x0rsave the file and restart X05:03
holycow field name `[' must be followed by colon05:03
llivavin_And you do that how :v05:03
llivavin_Im a compleate noob when it comes to linux05:04
r3dn3x0rllivavin_, ctrl-o to save05:04
llivavin_In case you havent noticed05:04
intelikeyholycow you are now an official member of the intelikey club     anyone that breaks dpkg or libc6   gets inducted05:04
holycowwell the system hung hard and all i could do was restart during a dist upgrade05:04
holycowintelikey: sweet05:04
holycowi didn't think this was possible but i did it05:04
llivavin_Ok how do you restart x:?05:04
r3dn3x0rllivavin_, then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart to restart X05:04
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coreymon77holycow: thats a little dumb, to say the least05:05
coreymon77holycow: restart during a dist upgrade?05:05
holycowcoreymon77: no05:05
holycowwhat is dumb is that you can't fucking read05:05
holycowthats whats dumb05:05
stdinholycow: watch the language05:05
intelikeyi'm as dumb as anyone else and i can read05:05
intelikeyi just can't type or spell05:06
intelikeyor walk and chew gum05:06
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CheshireKotgarfield! my congratulations!05:08
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Powerking89670CheshireKot what language do you speak?05:08
CheshireKotI'm russian and I know there's russian support channel)))05:08
Powerking89670Ahh, I dont speak russian sorry :-/05:09
intelikeyholycow does apt-get install -f   error out   (obviously but) what message ?05:09
CheshireKotwhat languages do you speak?05:09
Powerking89670dont use apt-get aptitude = better05:09
Powerking89670I know English and some french05:09
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intelikeyor is that   bass too    ?     told you i can't spell05:10
holycowE: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.05:10
holycowbeautifull circular05:10
intelikeyholycow and you ran that and it said what ?05:10
intelikeysudo dpkg --configure -a05:11
holycow<holycow> running that command you get:05:11
holycow<holycow> field name `[' must be followed by colon05:11
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intelikeyno indication what script that's from ?05:12
holycownot from the error messages05:12
holycowi should do some tracking but frankly its not really that important right now05:13
holycowits friday05:13
holycowi just thought it curious i broke something that is effectively unbreakable05:13
intelikeylooks like bashism maybe.   try    rm /bin/sh ;ln -s /bin/bash /bin/sh      and re-run the --configure05:13
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intelikeyor it may be libc that you broke...  heh   that's even more spactacular !05:14
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llivavinwhat the hell happend?05:15
hydrogen /bin/sh is dash here05:15
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llivavinI got brought to a black screen05:15
llivavinAnd anytime i restart it goes back to that black screen.05:15
llivavinWhich lands me now on the live CD05:15
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r3dn3x0rok, guess it wasn't the -new driver after all05:15
CheshireKotHave anyone met the following problem: in english KDE   ?05:15
r3dn3x0rbe back in a sec, food run05:16
llivavin.... So How would i fix my problem...05:16
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weedarIs there any software that will lower the speed of my laptop until the fan is turned off?05:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about freq - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about frequency - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:21
hydrogenyou can do it manually05:21
hydrogenin power manager05:21
hydrogenright click->cpu policy05:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about scale - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:21
underdog5004cpu frequency changer05:21
underdog5004sorry, my mind is being altered right now05:21
weedarhydrogen: thanks for the tip, but I'd like something that helps me find the highest level my computer can run at without turning on the fan05:22
_2holycow my modem reset,   did you try changing sh to point at bash ?05:22
weedarunderdog5004: I know the feeling05:22
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hydrogenweedar: not sure if such a thing exists05:22
holycow_2: not yet, working on a few other things first05:23
weedarhydrogen: Ooh, sounds like a fun project then. Guess I'll look for the commands needed and write a script or small program :)05:23
weedarhydrogen: where is the power manager?05:24
hydrogenweedar: its in the panel05:24
hydrogenits the battery05:24
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_2how hard is it to network usb to usb boxen ?05:32
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coonlokhtj'aimerai rajouter quelques lignes dans mon vimrc pour replier uniquement les fonctions05:42
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.05:43
coonlokhtquelqu'un a t'il la solution ?05:43
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_2SQUASHFS error: Unable to read page, block 24954d16, size 4fa405:45
_2is there a known issue with compaq computers and the live CD ?05:46
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coreymon77_2: other than the fact that they are very old05:48
pillowpantshow might i go about getting pidgin on my kubuntu system05:48
pillowpantsfor amd6405:48
_2yeah "VERY VERY OLD" ten years newer than this one i'm talking on...05:49
_2pillowpants install gaim05:49
coreymon77_2: wow, how old is that one05:49
_2coreymon77 meh 12/13 years05:50
coreymon77_2: the reason i said that is because compaq went under many years ago05:50
coreymon77_2: they were bought out05:50
coreymon77_2: and that was the end of it05:50
pillowpants_2: nay, i will not settle for gaim, i need pidgin05:50
pillowpantsdespite the fact theyre the same things05:50
_2yes a few years ago.   and in most computer minded mentality that is very old.  i know.  i was just pointing out that ages is not at all the issue05:51
_2pillowpants gaim is pidgin05:51
pillowpants_2: i know05:52
pillowpants_2: but id like pidgin, not gaim ya'see05:52
pillowpants_2: for i am stubborn05:52
Powerking89670im with you pillowpants05:52
_2well then you take care of it.   ya see.05:52
Powerking89670:p, I stuck with GAIM cause its easier05:52
Powerking89670you could install the rpm package, and install their RPM05:53
pillowpantsPowerking89670: i may just do the same, before i gauge how hard getting pidgin might be, i did it on a previous install but with a few complications05:53
pillowpantsyeah, i converted the rpm to a deb05:53
_2you could install gaim and rename it your self too...  but i know that's not an option...05:54
Powerking896702 its not the name05:54
Powerking89670its the functionality05:54
Powerking89670pidgin has options GAIM does not05:54
Powerking89670GoogleChat is one of them05:54
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_2hmmm pressed "shipit" CD 83 check sum's failed05:55
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pillowpantswhy isnt there an amd64 ver yet anyway?05:56
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pillowpantsx86 has it05:56
pillowpantssame with flash05:56
pillowpantsx86 has flash, but amd64 must suffer for being cooler, and faster05:57
pillowpantsi think not05:57
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josh__i'm having trouble withstepmania06:01
josh__i cant get it to change the resolution to anything but 640x48006:02
josh__it just crashes after06:02
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rrbizu using vesa driver?06:02
Daisuke_Laptopthen you should probably check stepmania's forums, because that's an issue with that software06:02
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baudthiefArgh someone please help - I've replaced my windowsXP machine with one running Kubuntu. Installed samba, everything is sweet06:04
baudthiefwhen I share a folder and try and access it on another machine06:04
baudthiefit's visible, but I get "the folder <blah> doesn't exist" when I try and open it06:04
Daisuke_Laptopif you replaced xp, why samba?06:06
Daisuke_Laptopand your best bet: nfs06:06
Daisuke_Laptopbut that's just me06:06
Daisuke_Laptopand my disdain for samba06:06
baudthiefBoth my brothers still run XP, need to share out vids/etc on the network06:07
baudthiefplus got an xbox in the lounge runing xbmc06:08
Daisuke_Laptoptell them "install ubuntu or no vids for you!"  but more realistically, learn all you can about the samba.conf and hope it will work at some point.  i had the same problem and gave up, installed windows services for unix (which i feel is named backwards), and went with nfs shares to the network.06:08
stdin!ohmy | baudthief06:09
ubotubaudthief: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.06:09
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baudthiefI've been working on this all night - screw it i'm reverting to windows06:09
pillowpantswhats the force architecture command?06:09
baudthiefstdin: np06:09
pillowpantssudo dpkg -i pidgin_2.0.0beta7devel.vicox-1_i386.deb06:10
pillowpantsnamely, how do i get that to install on my amd6406:10
pillowpantswith force architecture06:10
stdinpillowpants: --force-architecture what else :p06:11
cowlbaudthief: maybe this will help, http://wiki.bworks.org/doku.php/samba_file_server06:11
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pillowpantsah thats right06:11
pillowpantsstdin: my memory gets to me06:11
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xp_killerbaudthief: u going back to xp home viruse eddition?06:14
josh__there's no viruses for xp 64 bit edition eh06:14
josh__well, alot less06:15
baudthiefcowl: xp_killer: yup, whatever lets me share folders using SMB without installing 3rd party tools06:15
baudthief(on each machine)06:16
josh__ok, umm my laptop cant do opengl right now06:16
kyubiiihello, can some one help me with a problem with the flash plugin, when I try to see any app that rewuires flash the webbrowser crashes06:16
xp_killer!flash | kyubiii06:17
ubotukyubiii: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash06:17
baudthiefcowl: thanks, didn't work though :(06:17
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kyubiiithnx xp_killer ^-^06:20
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gannambit of a noob question....is it possible to get Kubuntu 7.04 installed on a 1GB USB memory stick?06:30
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Tm_Tgannam: not full Kubuntu atleast06:31
gannamso 1GB is enough for a minimal install though06:31
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xp_killermmm ask stdin i never install a cd version of kubuntu06:31
Tm_Txp_killer: welcome back06:31
xp_killeronly dvd06:31
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate06:31
xp_killerstdin: he askin if a 1GB usb is enough for kubuntu06:32
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stdin1gb is enough for a basic install, maybe with X, but not default Kubutnu06:33
xp_killergannam: ^^06:33
gannamtyvm  :)06:33
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xp_killer??? stdin what they mean by Tm_T takes channel operator privileges from stdin?06:34
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Tm_Txp_killer: yes, I took it :)06:35
Tm_Tdid put in my pocket where I keep it in safe06:35
stdinTm_T giveth and taketh away06:35
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stdinheh :)06:36
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xp_killerTm_T: give back stdin his privelage u mur**** >_<06:37
stdinxp_killer: I still have my ber cow powers ;)06:38
xp_killer q_p your what?06:38
Tm_Tstdin: no you dont, your ber cow power hat is gone :(06:39
xp_killereuh ok i'll just leave you 2 alone while i go back to the real world06:39
stdinthis is real, you're not dreaming it06:40
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Doctor_NickOH NO06:40
Doctor_NickYOU'RE GONNA DIE06:40
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stdinDoctor_Nick ? what was that?06:41
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Yz85RacerHey, me again :/ I'm trying to install IntelliJ IDEA. Anyway I get this error when I go to run the file "idea.sh" http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37477/06:42
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stdinYz85Racer: because you need to install java jdk ?06:43
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ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.06:43
Yz85RacerReally? I thought IntelliJ had it inside itself :o06:43
Yz85RacerI should of known, my 2nd year on Java :P06:44
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pillowpantsdoes getdeb.com have a repository?06:44
stdinYz85Racer: the clue is "exec: 60: /bin/java: not found"06:44
franz[user management & shell]  i tried chsh -s /bin/bash on one of my users but im getting a "PAM authentication failed" ...any ideas what it is and how to fix it?06:44
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Yz85Racerstdin: To save IntelliJ, where would be a good place to put the "Home Folder"06:45
stdindesktop or in your $HOME06:45
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Yz85RacerOne last little question, Synaptic, I've heard that it's like Adept.. Yet I can;t find it, is it on Kubuntu?06:46
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flaccid!info synaptic06:47
ubotusynaptic: Graphical package manager. In component main, is optional. Version (feisty), package size 1279 kB, installed size 5836 kB06:47
flaccidYz85Racer, yeah you can install that package via adept or apt-get06:47
gundam_rx78nt1hello, I am installing a screen saver for kubuntu and it is asking for the kde headers.  I am trying to install the headers but it want to install the kde core. How can I get the headers installed w/o installing the core and affecting my KDE installation?06:48
flaccid!find kde headers06:48
ubotuFound: atlantikdesigner, gettext-kde, kde-core, kde-guidance, kde-guidance-powermanager (and 545 others)06:48
stdingundam_rx78nt1: just install kde-devel06:48
franz[user management & shell]  i tried chsh -s /bin/bash on one of my users but im getting a "PAM authentication failed" ...any ideas what it is and how to fix it?06:48
gundam_rx78nt1stdin, it will automatically try to install the kde core. How can I do it differently?06:49
franz!find PAM authentication failed06:49
ubotuFound: language-pack-kde-pam, language-pack-kde-pam-base, libapache2-mod-auth-pam, libpam-cracklib, libpam-doc (and 65 others)06:49
Yz85RacerOhhh ok. Also, one tiny little kind of non related to Kubuntu.. Well it is.  but flaccid, would asking for 23 free shipit cds of Kubuntu be a bit too many? I asked my friends + family members and stuff, and they all said they would like one.. And that came to 23 people.. Am I asking for a bit too much?06:49
stdingundam_rx78nt1: you should have kde-core installed anyway. it's the core of kde06:49
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gundam_rx78nt1No, not the way that kubuntu has KDE installed.06:50
flacciddon't know Yz85Racer06:50
stdinYz85Racer: if it's too much they'll call you ans ask you why06:50
Tm_Txp_killer: er? cartoons? my tv?06:50
gundam_rx78nt1KDE is installed with a different version modified for KUBUNTU.06:50
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stdingundam_rx78nt1: kde-core is just a meta pacakge anyway06:51
xp_killerTm_T: got milk?06:51
flaccidinstall from kde website?06:51
stdingundam_rx78nt1: and no, all the package are "kubuntu" packagtes06:51
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gundam_rx78nt1If I install ththe core, it will change all of my kde to include the icons on the tool bars.06:51
stdingundam_rx78nt1: you can't install "standard" kde on kubuntu06:51
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flaccid!find kde dev06:51
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gundam_rx78nt1I already went with through this, this morning with my desktop.06:51
Tm_Txp_killer: myself yes, you have to get your own06:51
gundam_rx78nt1I don't want that to happen with my laptop.06:52
ubotuFound: atlantikdesigner, gettext-kde, kde-core, kde-guidance, kde-guidance-powermanager (and 545 others)06:52
stdingundam_rx78nt1: like I said, kde-core is just a meta package, it installs nothing06:52
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Yz85RacerThey'll call me stdin?06:53
gundam_rx78nt1so tell me why it took 30 minutes for download and installations on my desktop?06:53
flaccid!info kde-devel06:53
ubotukde-devel: the K Desktop Environment development files and modules. In component universe, is extra. Version 5:47 (feisty), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB06:53
esper] hello everyone06:53
flaccid!info kdebase-dev06:53
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stdinYz85Racer: this is a list of files installed with kde-core http://stdin.pastebin.us/3954506:53
esper] would anyone mind telling me how to change sound to output from my headset?06:54
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flaccidtry those gundam_rx78nt106:54
esper] its a usb headset logitech06:54
esper] i just did a fresh install of kubuntu from the latest liveCD06:54
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xp_killerTm_T: lol06:55
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esper] lo?06:56
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flaccidmodel, esper]  ?06:56
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xp_killerstdin:  u got your own pastbin website? what else it has on it?06:58
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stdinxp_killer: anyone can have a user.pastebin.us06:59
gundam_rx78nt1Ok, I click on the all of the kde-dev and kde-core and it selected 76 packeges to install. The whole kde system. All I want is just the headers so I can complie this darn thing.06:59
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flaccidits a wildcard dns record07:00
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flaccidtry the kde-devel only gundam_rx78nt1 or check their deps07:02
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stdingundam_rx78nt1: headers always depend on the actual libs07:04
gundam_rx78nt1how do I do that? I mean just install that package because everytime I select it in adept manager, it selects all of the kde packages (76 packages).07:04
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gundam_rx78nt1I just clicked on it and looked at preview changes and there are all the packages selected.07:06
Doctor_Nickman, i cant wait until kde407:06
flaccidyes because of deps. to be honest gundam_rx78nt1 not sure how to do it if you have a custom kde installed07:06
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Excelsio1Can anyone help me reinstall Grub from livecd?07:07
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about grubfix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:07
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto07:07
Yz85Racerflaccid, how do you set JDK_HOME?07:07
gundam_rx78nt1well, why is kubuntu a custom kde?07:07
Excelsio1Yeah, um, followed that. Gives me an error07:07
flaccidexport JDK_HOME=blah ?07:07
Excelsio1Didn't make a floppy yet07:07
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Excelsio1..Then again, no floppy drive. =/07:07
Yz85RacerExcelsio1: Have you tried07:07
Yz85RacerBooting into Recovery (presuming this is windows)07:08
Yz85Racerthen running fixmbr?07:08
Yz85Raceror something07:08
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Yz85Racerohhh ok flaccid, thanks.07:08
flaccidits first link, not last07:08
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Excelsio1No, haven't. How would fixing mbr in Windows help?07:09
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Yz85RacerDidn't you say you were having trouble booting?07:09
Excelsio1Right, but I mean- why in Windows?07:09
Yz85RacerWell that fixed it for me07:10
Yz85RacerOhk, wtf, I just installed JDK with Adept, now I can't find where it installed too.. :/07:11
baudthiefHow do you go about partitioning/formatting a new drive in ubuntu?07:11
flaccidthis doesn't require windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows07:11
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter07:11
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Yz85RacerHey flaccid, I just installed JDK with Adept, where did it install to?07:12
flaccidwhat was the package name, Yz85Racer ?07:12
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shaffydoes anyone know of an easy way to switch to root when using a graphical interface like kate, for example?07:12
stdinshaffy: you can't "switch", you have to open the application as root07:13
flaccidshaffy, you can do kdesu kate /file/to/edit.txt07:13
stdinshaffy: there is also an "Edit as root" option under Actions in the right click menu in konqueror07:13
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esper] anyone around willing to help out a noob?07:14
flaccidYz85Racer: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=sun-java6-jdk&version=feisty&arch=i38607:14
shaffythanks a lot stdin and flaccid.  much appreciated.07:14
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baudthieflol "warning you can lost data!"07:15
Yz85Racerflaccid, I can't find it.07:16
Yz85RacerIt says it didn't exist.07:16
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esper] can anyone direct me on how to switch the mixer in kde to use my usb headset?07:19
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP307:19
Yz85Racerflaccid: I can't find it :/07:20
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esper] doesnt say anything about usb headset07:21
esper] it works fine with speakers07:21
shaffydoes anyone know how i can save my viewing settings in konqueror?  everytime i reopen konq, all my settings are lost (like view mode, etc.)07:21
esper] i just need the headset working07:21
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gundam_rx78nt1Can you install packages for older versions of kubuntu onto fiesty?07:23
shaffydoes anyone know how i can save my viewing settings in konqueror?  everytime i reopen konq, all my settings are lost (like view mode, etc.)07:23
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stdinshaffy: Settings > Save View Profile "File Management"07:27
Yz85Racerstdin: I downloaded java jdk with Adept, now I can't find where it was downloaded too..07:27
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stdinYz85Racer: just do "sudo update-alternatives --config java" and set that, then it should just pick up the path07:28
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Yz85Raceromg tanks07:29
shaffythanks again stdin.07:30
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Yz85Racerstdin: When I go to unzip a .rar archive, it say's .rar isn't in my path.... How do I add it too my path?07:36
stdinYz85Racer: you need to install unrar to unrar a .rar07:36
Yz85Raceroh ok07:36
persianExcuse me. Can anyone tell me why I do not have an administrator mode button in kdm theme manager? Did i forget to install an additional package or something?07:36
Yz85RacerSo that can be gotten with Adept right?07:37
stdinpersian: you need to access it with kcontrol, "kdesu kcontrol"07:37
stdinYz85Racer: yeah07:37
persianstdin: thanks07:37
Yz85Racerstdin: Do you like get paid for this?07:39
stdinYz85Racer: no :p07:39
Yz85Raceryou should07:39
stdingo tell canonical ;)07:40
jbbarnesCan anyone help without mounting a FAT32 partition? It mounts as rwxr--r--, so only root can write to it. I've tried modifying fstab. No luck. Same thing happens in Suse 10.2.07:40
jbbarnesHow can I mount it with read/write access for everyong?07:40
stdinjbbarnes: by adding "umask=0000" or "dmask=000,fmask=111" to the fstab options07:41
jbbarnesOkay, let me try that...07:41
Yz85RacerK, stdin: I've installed unrar07:43
stdinnow it should work07:43
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Yz85Racerit dont07:43
stdinwhat doesn't ?07:43
stdinark ?07:43
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jbbarnesChanging to /dev/sda4       /mnt/common     vfat    dmask=000,fmask=111     0       007:44
stdinYz85Racer: have you restarted it after you installed unrar?07:45
Yz85Racerrestarted Ark?07:45
stdinquit it then reopen it07:46
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Yz85Racersays the same thing07:47
jbbarnesSTDIN: Still mounting the same after mount -a07:47
jbbarnes-rw-rw-rw- 1 root root   9956690 2004-02-17 04:03 Network Programming with Perl.chm07:47
xp_killerwoo everything back to normal now to try out beryl if it dont work i'm going to sued stdin >_<07:47
jbbarnesHold on07:47
stdinjbbarnes: -rw-rw-rw- ;)07:47
jbbarnesIt did change, just no X07:47
jbbarnesLet me try again (I jumped the gun because I was expecting rwxrwxrwx07:48
stdinjbbarnes: files won't have +x, but dirs will07:48
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stdinjbbarnes: you don't want files to have +x normally, there's no need and it's bad security07:48
Yz85Racerstdin, it still says the same thing :/07:49
tuxdHi new to linux.  I'm not sure how to install new programs if they aren't available through apt/adept (I'm running Kubuntu Fiesty)  For example, I downloaded Virtualbox1.5.0 for Linux Hosts for Fiesty (as well as Google Earth). In Windows they would be .exe files you double-click on.  What do I do to install them in Linux?07:49
nb72Does anybody know of a repository that keeps more up to date Java dev tools?  Eclipse 3.3 and/or Netbeans 6.0 Betas for example.07:49
stdinYz85Racer: it should work, you have unrar installed. you could try logging out and back it, to force it to reload it's settings07:49
baudthiefIs it possible to restrict access to an NFS share to just a couple of remote users?07:49
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nb72tuxd: I usually try to find repositories for them.  I know google earth is in a repository.  I might have it.07:50
jbbarnesSTDIN I don't understand the syntax yet, but it worked. Thanks!07:50
tuxdnb72:  how do I install it? I have an downloaded icon on my desktop"Google Earth bin" that I got from their website07:51
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Yz85Racerstdin: Didn't work07:51
stdinjbbarnes: fmask is the "file mask", and dmask is the "directory mask". masks basically takes away from the permissions. so 111measa permissions of 66607:52
stdinYz85Racer: try in konsole, see if you can use "unrar file.rar"07:52
nb72tuxd: I think this should get you google earth (as well as some others) - deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ feisty free non-free07:52
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stdinYz85Racer: if that works then I don't know what's wrong with ark07:53
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!07:53
tuxdnb72: ok, thanks.  My larger question though is, how do I install a program - any program that I can't get from apt/adept?  There are 2 so far that I downloaded from websites, but now that I have the file downloaded, I don't know what to do to make it install07:54
jbbarnesSTDIN, so If I want the permissions to be rwxrwxrwx can I do that? Or maybe that doesn't make sense on a FAT32 partition, huh? I just want to make sure I don't have any restrictions using this partition.07:55
holycow\join #zsnes07:55
nb72tuxd: Not sure if I can be much help there.  I've only done it a couple times and I'm not sure if I did it right.  I just used the make files supplied07:55
garfieldstdin:do i realy need 1gb ddr to run linux with beryl?07:55
jbbarnesMaybe rw-rw-rwx is all I need.07:55
jbbarnesBTW, STDIN, you rock. That answer was fast and RIGHT! Thanks so much.07:56
garfieldstdin: how do i know how much linux is using of the ddr's?07:56
jbbarnesI tried this the other night an people had me digging around in udev instead of fstab.07:56
stdinjbbarnes: all the x will do (for files) is make them executable, ans that's not too good as someone could antecedently run a text file as a script07:56
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tuxdanyone, how do you install files in Linux if you download the file from the web, and don't get it via apt/adept?07:56
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate07:57
tuxdnb72: thanksfor the help you were able to give07:57
flaccidwhats the file extension tuxd ?07:57
stdingarfield: ddr is not a thing, it's a type07:57
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stdingarfield: RAM is the thing07:57
flaccid!software | tuxd07:57
ubotutuxd: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents07:57
tuxdone is tar.gz, the other is google earth.bin file07:58
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flaccidearth.bin you chmod +x earth.bin then run it and tar.gz you usually extract then read the README and INSTALL for instructions07:58
garfieldstdin: k.do it have a command that i can see info on ram cpu etc?07:59
tuxdflaccid: thanks07:59
stdingarfield: "top" is a good one07:59
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nb72flaccid: Thanks, I think that will work for me as well getting the newer dev tools.08:00
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Yz85Racerstdin: hey, what was that command you told me to use to find the path to my jdk?08:00
stdinYz85Racer: "sudo update-alternatives --config java" ?08:01
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flaccidYz85Racer, see !java08:02
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garfieldTm_T: ^^08:03
Tm_Tgarfield: yes?08:04
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ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.08:05
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garfieldTm_T: does it have a command to know how much ram linux is using?and if i install copiz and beryl will it cause a confution?08:05
Yz85RacerHey flaccid; I remember there's a command to make an executable file (not .exe) a "shortcut" thing on the desktop, instead of ./Program in terminal everytime08:06
Tm_Tgarfield: first, "free", second, no idea, I dont use those, see #ubuntu-effects08:07
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jon_hey guys i have an ati card and when i enter fglrxinfo i get Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".08:08
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jon_how can i resolve this? can someone help me out?08:08
flaccidYz85Racer, you can right click and make application shortcut08:10
garfield!ask | jon_:08:11
ubotujon_:: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)08:11
jon_garfield, i did ask a question08:11
garfieldMe half a sleep08:11
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jon_should i set extensions options in xorg.conf to false, disable, or 0?08:13
garfieldjo i play with fglrx not to long it crash my system i got it back up but nothing was working good i had to reinstall everything so be careful whant u do.and just to remind you dont ask stdin for help or everything will go worst to install fglrx for ati :p08:15
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garfieldjon_: ^^08:15
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garfieldxp_killer but u will help xp_killer right ?08:17
jon_comon guys08:17
jon_ive been at this for 2 days08:17
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jon_hopefully this works08:17
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ungrateful - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:18
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Daisuke-Idoneed a new factoid.08:18
Daisuke-Idowhy are you laughing?08:19
=== xp_killer anyway it's 2 in the morning i'm going to sleep i have a life
Daisuke-Idoit's 2 in the morning and you're on irc, are you trying to convince us or yourself?08:20
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Daisuke-Idothe o was a typo08:21
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Tm_T!offtopic | xp_killer08:22
ubotuxp_killer: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!08:22
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ratselsalve a tutti08:32
ratselposso chiedervi una cosa?08:32
Tm_T!it | ratsel08:33
uboturatsel: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!08:33
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Kite_DHcan somebody tell me why this doesnt work out? -> http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/437308:41
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SelanitHiya.  Is there any way to configure KDE so that clicking a selected file once will let me rename it?  Pressing F2 or right-click->rename all the time is driving me berserk.08:42
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supernerdhow can i compile a program to be in 32 bit with make on a 64 bit linux system?08:56
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shaffycan anyone tell me what (packages) i need to get all my multimedia (wm, divx, mp3, etc) codecs working?08:59
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Selanitshaffy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats09:00
Zvezdichkosudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs did the job09:01
shaffythanks guys.  much appreciated.09:02
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level1how can I know what time I last booted my computer?  the uptime doesn't include time that its been suspending09:04
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djdarkman_is there a linux TV Tuner card compatibility page?09:04
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notvman, can someone please help me? im getting a blackscreen on start up and i have no idea how to fix it. i have a radeon x1200 ati card09:06
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djdarkman_notv: only blackscreen?09:07
djdarkman_doesn`t it write something?09:07
Zvezdichkodo you know how to configure your xorg.conf manually?09:07
fedsthe best solution is to reinstall..hehe09:07
notvwhen its about to boot the GUI, it goes pitchblack09:07
djdarkman_feds: wrong , that is true only on windows09:07
djdarkman_notv: where are you writing from now?09:08
fedsi got problem too in changing resolution..09:08
notvmy old comp.09:08
notvwhat can i do?09:08
djdarkman_notv: you can boot the pc and NOT log in09:08
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SelanitWell, I found the answer to my question: no.  So now I need to figure out if it's worth the effort to struggle through the C++, make it do what I want, recompile KDE, and submit a patch.  Bah09:08
notvdjdarkman it will only let me boot up in recovery mode with cli09:08
djdarkman_press CTRL+ALT+F409:09
djdarkman_xorg won`t even start?09:09
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djdarkman_you get no graphical mode just cli?09:09
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notvwell, i get the kubuntu splash screen09:09
djdarkman_in that case boot in the cli09:09
notvthen before it goes to login screen, it goes black09:09
djdarkman_wait a sec09:09
notvi mean the kubuntu loading screen, i dunno if thats technically the splash screen09:10
djdarkman_notv: do you get the graphical login screen or it stops before that displays?09:10
notvdjdarkman no, it stops before that09:11
djdarkman_notv: wait a sec09:11
fedsi've just reinstalled my kubuntu today..because of that resolution changing problems..09:11
notvmaybe i should try starting over with gutsy. im sure id run into all sorts of problems there too though09:11
fedshow can i install anti-virus on my kubuntu pc?09:12
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Daisuke-Idofeds: why do you need to?09:12
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fedsdaisuke: need what? reinstall or install antivirus?09:12
Zvezdichko sudo apt-get install clamav09:12
fedswhat is CLAMAV anyway?09:13
fedsi am again in the process of 'sudo apt-get update/upgrade'..sucks..09:14
notvcan anyone help me out?09:14
Daisuke-Idowhy do you need antivirus?09:15
notvim about to just reinstall vista09:15
notvdamn i wish laptops had better compatibility with linux09:15
ZvezdichkoWell,feds ClamAV is antivirus software09:15
Daisuke-Idobuy a laptop that's linux compatible09:16
Zvezdichkowasn't that what you wanted?09:16
notvi already bought a laptop09:16
fedszvez: thanks..i got to check it09:16
Daisuke-Idoyou didn't research first?09:16
notvman i tried to reconfig the xserver, but now i just get a black screen with a blank cursor09:16
djdarkman_notv: the problem is not with your laptop09:18
djdarkman_notv: the problem may be with your video card09:18
djdarkman_notv: what distribution do you use exactly09:18
Zvezdichkotry another video driver09:18
Daisuke-Idodrop to vesa09:18
djdarkman_feds: no point of using AV in linux09:18
Daisuke-Idothat's a standard that will work with anything.09:18
notvdjdarkman, i know it is definately my ati card giving me trouble, im using ubuntu feisty with kubuntu desktop09:18
Daisuke-Idoati...  x1400?09:19
Daisuke-Idoclose enough09:19
djdarkman_notv: reconfigure xorg, select vesa09:19
Daisuke-Idoand all i have to say is... sucks to be you.09:19
notvwhys that?09:19
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Daisuke-Idowait for gutsy, and wait a week or two for ati's new driver09:19
djdarkman_and if it works I can tell you how to install a working ati driver notv09:19
notvdo you think gutsy will get that shit down?09:19
fedsdjdarkman: is there no virus in linux? im new with this linux thing..09:19
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notvi have to use fglrx09:20
notvwhich i dled09:20
djdarkman_feds: wait I`ll give you a link explaining this, but you shouldn`t have to worry about viruses09:20
Daisuke-Idodid you install it from the repos?09:20
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djdarkman_notv: just temporarly use the vesa driver09:20
notvim giving it a shot09:20
djdarkman_and after it works we can make your ati work09:20
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djdarkman_I have an ati xpress 110009:21
ZvezdichkoI use always vesa because it's better than tdfx :)09:21
fedsvirus is a business i think09:21
Daisuke-Idofeds: you're absolutely right09:21
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notvi had it working, but then every restart it would give me a blank screen and id have to reconfig.09:21
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notvthen i tried disabling HAL throught kdes restricted drivers manager09:21
notvafter that nothing fixed the blank screen09:21
fedsif there will be no virus, then there would be no Anti-virus (a business, in Windows platform)09:22
talon223ahhh..i just came in here to ask one simple question while i re-do my ubuntu install away from gnome(a year..lol) ...x-chat or konversation..which is an overall better prog?09:22
djdarkman_feds: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/10/06/linux_vs_windows_viruses/09:22
Daisuke-Ido(Head) ->  O    ||  <-(wall)09:22
Daisuke-Ido(Head) ->      O||  <-(wall)09:23
djdarkman_feds: a linux enviorment is too hazzerdous for a simple virus09:23
fedsthnks darkman..im reading it09:23
djdarkman_talon223: the one that suits your needs better than the other09:23
talon223...ahh, i just need to chat...is this prog simpler? konversation that is09:23
talon223i don't need a bunch of fancy font colors..etc.09:24
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Daisuke-Idoshort answer, linux is more secure as the user isn't running as root (administrator) by default.  that and linux doesn't have the market share today's worm and spam bot authors crave09:24
talon223i just wanted to know if there were any bad faults in this prog09:24
notvdjdarkman, back to the black screen with the blank cursor staring at me09:24
ZvezdichkoTo mess up a Linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up your Windows box, you just need to work on it09:24
Daisuke-Idokonversation is easier, i find09:24
djdarkman_talon223: if you are using kubuntu, then konversation maybe the better choice09:24
ZvezdichkoI don't understand this statement09:24
talon223alright :) ..all i needed guys09:24
talon223thanks alot09:24
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notvdjdarkman can i re-enable HAL restricted driver through cli?09:25
talon223just want a prog that gets the job done without a lot of headache or mess...09:25
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djdarkman_notv: have no idea, don`t know what connection does hal has with the video card09:25
fedsno virus in linux because most softwares are free..09:26
djdarkman_feds: wrong09:26
Daisuke-Idodjdarkman_: see the above ascii illustration09:26
notvdjdarkman im not sure, but when i disabled it through kde gui is when i ran into this issue09:26
djdarkman_feds: few virus in linux, namely ignorable amount , because linux is designed to be more secure than Windows09:27
notvhow do i open the restricted drivers through the cli?09:27
djdarkman_yeah Daisuke-IdoI get it09:27
djdarkman_notv: you can do that when you have gui09:27
Daisuke-Idowhat in god's name made you disable the *hardware abstraction layer* in the first place?09:27
djdarkman_now just set the driver to vesa09:27
notvdjdarkman i tried that09:27
notvi just set it to vesa i still got the black screen on reboot09:28
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djdarkman_Daisuke-Ido: can you tell him how to re -enable hal?09:28
Daisuke-Idoi have no clue09:28
djdarkman_(trough the cli)09:28
fedshehehe..thats my idea, without reading any info.09:28
fedsdjdarkman: thats why linux pc can open windows pc's hidden/admin shares in network..09:28
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djdarkman_I can`t find any tv tuner card compatibility page, am I wrong or there isn`t?09:30
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fedsdjdarkman: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Supported_Hardware09:32
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bart_I got a question: How can I hide my tooltips?09:35
bart_you know: the little yellow box09:35
bart_Is there a way to disable them?09:35
WaltzingAlongbart_: in kde in general? which data is being shown there?09:37
bart_I mean the little yellow box when I focus on something09:37
bart_I use Ubuntu feisty fawn09:37
WaltzingAlongbart_: you can change that where the settings are for the panel09:38
bart_I don't know where, that's the problem09:38
bart_I know it's easy to disable them09:38
bart_but I can't find where09:38
Zvezdichkowhat is that "fawn" after the name "feisty"09:38
Zvezdichkowhat is the difference?09:38
WaltzingAlongbart_: i usually get there by right mouse clicking on the panel itself, then configure09:38
WaltzingAlongZvezdichko: what do you mean? what does feisty mean and what does fawn mean?09:39
bart_Zvezdichko: I didn't spelled it correct :)09:39
WaltzingAlongZvezdichko: feisty is an adjective, fawn is a noun09:39
Zvezdichkowhat does fawn09:39
bart_it's just a name09:39
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Zvezdichkoisn't feisty just enough?09:39
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WaltzingAlongZvezdichko: just enough for what?09:39
corte123hello everyone09:40
Zvezdichkoto call your distro that name...09:40
ZvezdichkoUbuntu Feisty ...09:40
bart_who cares09:40
WaltzingAlongZvezdichko: instead of just being referred to by a number, the released are named as well, now in the tradition of an noun with a modifying adjective preceeding it, both starting with the same letter09:40
bart_anyway: WaltzingAlong, you know what I mean with "tooltip"?09:40
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Zvezdichkomaybe I'm the one who cares... for example I switchet to gutsy for a reason...09:40
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ZvezdichkoI don't like upgrades to bigger versions09:41
bart_like this: http://blois.us/blog/uploaded_images/Tooltip-721025.PNG09:41
Zvezdichkothanks, WaltzingAlong09:41
WaltzingAlongbart_: yes, right mouse click on the panel, select configure panel (or just unlock panel then configure panel); in the appearance section of the kde panel configuration window, uncheck "show tooltips"09:41
bart_Sorry, I'm not english: what do you mean with "panel"?09:42
WaltzingAlongbart_: it is kde terminology anyway; i mean the place where the minimized windows go09:43
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WaltzingAlongbart_: probably across the bottom of your screen09:43
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WaltzingAlongbart_: you could also get there through the program kcontrol09:43
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bart_I use "Ubuntu", not Kubuntu09:44
bart_I think that makes the difference09:44
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Zvezdichkothere is no difference09:44
Zvezdichkowe have ubuntu-desktop09:44
WaltzingAlongZvezdichko: there is09:45
Zvezdichkoand xubuntu-desktop09:45
WaltzingAlongbart_: well yeah i am giving some kde specific instructions; i do not use gnome09:45
bart_feisty fawn : gnome09:45
bart_you instructions doesn't work for me09:45
Zvezdichkowell, does it matter which installation media you will use ( xubuntu, kubuntu..er)09:45
WaltzingAlongbart_: so ask in #ubuntu  good luck. btw which language would you prefer? there are other channels #ubuntu-de for german, for example or #ubuntu-es for spanish09:46
ubotuNederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl09:46
WaltzingAlongbart_: though it may not be as lively; and if i were using gnome i could help09:47
bart_nobody is active there -.-09:48
bart_is there a way to search throught all the "settings" ?09:49
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notvhow can i enable restricted drivers from the cli?09:50
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WaltzingAlongnotv: just install the driver you wish to use; perhaps through sudo aptitude09:51
bart_one person helped me09:51
WaltzingAlongbart_: found it?09:51
bart_yes :)09:51
notvwaltzingalong, i wish it were that simple09:51
WaltzingAlongZvezdichko: basically about release names, easier for people to remember names than numbers09:51
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WaltzingAlongnotv: what do you wish to install? video? capture? wireless?09:52
Zvezdichkohehe yesss :)09:52
notvi just want my gui to work again. it stopped working when i disabled a driver in the restricted drivers09:52
WaltzingAlongZvezdichko: and with two words with the same letter starting, that is also a technique making the words easier yet to remember09:52
notvnow that i dont have gui i dont know how to backpeddle09:52
notvi wish i could restore defaults without reloading the entire OS09:53
Zvezdichkohow do you chat then? bitchx?09:53
WaltzingAlongnotv: but you have a console? you could reconfigure X           sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:53
bart_restart x after done it?09:53
bart_thanks all09:54
notvwaltzingalong, tried that too. i tried ati and vesa, both are giving me a blank screen with a cursor.09:54
notvi can only get a console in recovery mode09:54
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Zvezdichkonotv: did you check /var/log/Xorg.0.log?09:55
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Zvezdichkocheck that file, it may have clues for what's going wrong09:55
notvyes multiple times09:56
WaltzingAlongnotv: which you can do with             less /var/log/Xorg.0.log09:56
Zvezdichkook, did you try to start X manually09:56
Zvezdichkothe old "startx" way?09:56
notvim unfamiliar with that09:56
WaltzingAlongnotv: how about            Xorg -configure09:57
Zvezdichkothen go to a console and you may go ahead with startx or better with Xorg -configure09:57
Zvezdichkoas WaltzingAlong said09:57
notvwhat should i look for in xorg.0.log?09:58
Zvezdichkofor any error09:58
Zvezdichkoit's market that way: (EE)09:59
Zvezdichkoif you find an error, paste it here09:59
notvits on another system, i will go check it09:59
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notvno (EE) but  fatal server error caught signal 11. server aborting10:01
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notvand also i noticed (WW) Vesa(0): no valid modes left   trying less strict filter10:02
notvdunno if that means anything10:02
WaltzingAlongnotv: on the machine with X not working (yet), do you have it on your network and did you set it up with openssh-server ?10:03
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notvyes and no10:03
WaltzingAlongnotv: alright if you get ssh on there then you can connect to it from the machine with which you are typing to us now; you can get windows to make it easier to post the logs and confs10:04
WaltzingAlongnotv: those are just some options, nothing essential10:04
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notvthat sounds like it might take a while10:05
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WaltzingAlongnotv: easy as sudo aptitude install openssh-server           on the broken one10:05
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ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto10:06
WaltzingAlongthen from the one where you are now, ssh -CX IP10:06
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notvi need to know my ip from my laptop?10:08
WaltzingAlongfrom the one with the broken x, yeah10:08
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notvwhats the command to find my ip again?10:09
thomax_anyone knows a way to get windowslive mail working in kmail?10:09
notvduh i was trying ip instead of if10:09
WaltzingAlongnotv: if there are too many results to see it, you can  try          ifconfig | less        or specify one         ifconfig eth010:09
ubunturosthere's a color option in grub, which is under comment. Is that for a background color?10:09
jussi01WaltzingAlong: just fyi, the package ssh contains everthing needed for ssh both ways... ;)10:09
Lynourethomax_: what's windowslive mail?10:10
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WaltzingAlongjussi01: thanks10:10
jussi01thomax_: I dont think you can10:10
thomax_Lynoure: what hotmail used to be I think10:10
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Lynourethomax_: Hotmail was a webmail, so I'm real confused now10:10
thomax_Lynoure: there used to be a way to get it working in kmail10:11
jussi01thomax_: I dont beleive they allow pop3 access to it any more10:11
notvwalkzingalong, now what?10:11
notvim connected10:11
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WaltzingAlongnotv logged in via ssh? now you can start any app there, say konqueror              just run         konqueror &10:11
WaltzingAlongthomax_, jussi01         you could use something like mrpostman10:11
thomax_i'll have a look at it10:12
WaltzingAlongthomax_: mrpostman.sf.net10:12
notvokay, i have a browser opened10:12
thomax_WaltzingAlong: you need pop access again :/10:13
thomax_well I'll hust have to live with it10:13
WaltzingAlongnotv: ok so well you could paste the X log and X conf file to pastebin        /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log10:13
WaltzingAlongthomax_: what do you mean?10:13
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notvhow do i do pastebin?10:13
thomax_WaltzingAlong:  with mrpostman i need pop information of the server and I don't have that information10:14
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ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)10:14
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Lynourethomax_: google hints heavily at windowslive mail offering pop... but I don't want to register to find out10:14
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WaltzingAlongnotv: open those files (in kate for example); copy their texts, paste them in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/       submit it. it gives you an url of the post, send that url in the channel so we can see what you posted10:15
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notvdid that work?10:15
thomax_Lynoure: I didn't want to find out either, untill school decided let's get email for all our students at windowslive mail10:15
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WaltzingAlongthomax_: do you have an account with hotmail/windows live? then mrpostman IS a pop server which grabs messages from the web interface of hotmail so kmail checks hotmail through mrpostman10:15
WaltzingAlongnotv: yes10:16
thomax_WaltzingAlong: ah okat10:16
WaltzingAlongnotv: and the log?10:16
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Lynourethomax_: They somehow force you to use it? If it has forwarding feature, forward the mail somewhere that is more useful for you?10:16
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notvhere http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37501/10:16
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thomax_Lynoure: I was planning to do that, but then again if you don't log in for 180 days your acc is deleted :D10:17
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thomax_again it's MS and it's EXTREMELY GAY10:17
Lynourethomax_: Does your school somehow punish you for that? You can probably just boycott their choice, if you wish10:17
thomax_yeah true10:18
WaltzingAlongnotv: which video card?   lspci?10:18
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notvradeon ati x120010:18
thomax_Lynoure: but they use it as prime communication, so if I start missing messages, I will get fucked10:18
notvwaltzingalong radeon x120010:18
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thomax_Lynoure: anyway, gonna start out with forwarding10:19
WaltzingAlongnotv: :D actually from here you could launch the restricted manager        kdesu restricted-manager &10:19
notvfrom my desktop pc?10:19
notvlets hope this helps10:19
WaltzingAlongnotv: from ssh to the one not working10:20
Lynourethomax_: Try informing the school office that you can be reached at some other email address. You can even explain that that is because WindowsLive Mail does not support any email client on Mac or Linux. (Yes, I'm a bit fan for campaigning for freedom of choice)10:20
WaltzingAlongnotv: you could also comment out the hsync and vrefresh lines in the xorg.conf file10:20
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notvwaltzingalong do i want to comment them out completely or change their values?10:20
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thomax_Lynoure: yes you are absolutely right, as a mather a fact I might do that10:20
WaltzingAlongnotv do you know the values supported by your display?10:21
notvwaltzingalong do i need to have atheros hardware access layer (HAL) enabled?10:21
notvno idea10:21
notvi thought i saw it on a guide but i thikn it was a diff laptop10:21
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WaltzingAlongnotv: ok could just comment them out  (add # to the beginning of the line)10:21
notvdo you think that will fix it?10:21
WaltzingAlongnotv:  not trying to scare you but wrong values can break (typically older) displays10:22
WaltzingAlongtry it10:22
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WaltzingAlongnotv: comment them out, restart x   sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart10:22
WaltzingAlongnotv: which as you may have noticed you can do from your ssh access10:23
Lynourethomax_: good luck10:23
thomax_Lynoure: thanx10:23
notvStopping K Display Manager: kdm not running (/var/run/kdm.pid not found).10:25
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WaltzingAlongnotv: which is true, it was not running    (restart does stop then start)10:26
notvhow many reboots will fry my laptop?10:26
notvi think im nearing 100 in 3 days10:26
WaltzingAlongwell as you may have guessed 1) this is not ms windows and 2) rebooting without addressing the causes will not alleviate the symptoms10:27
WaltzingAlongnotv: 99 is usually the max so the machine is on borrowed time now10:27
notvheh, i think ive addressed the problem from every angle i can stumble accross10:28
thomax_Lynoure: lol I try the forward function: You're only able to forward mail to a custom domain or an e-mail address that ends in hotmail.com, msn.com, or live.com. Please try again.10:28
notvwaltzingalong upon reboot i still have a black screen with a cursor10:28
thomax_gmail doesn't work lol10:29
WaltzingAlongnotv: post the xorg.conf and log again10:29
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Zvezdichkonotv sorry I was away10:30
Zvezdichkowhat happened?10:30
Lynourethomax_: if custom domain is configurable somewhere, you might be able to put gmail there.10:30
thomax_yeah maibe10:30
notvi think i need to use ati not vesa10:30
thomax_it doesnt look that way10:30
notvbut i dont know anything10:30
Zvezdichkois vesa working?10:30
WaltzingAlongnotv: vesa is not worknig10:30
WaltzingAlongZvezdichko: x is crashing10:31
notvi dont think vesa works with my card...10:31
WaltzingAlongZvezdichko: ah but this most recent time x did not crash10:31
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Zvezdichkovesa should work whith any card10:31
WaltzingAlongnotv: ok so change 'vesa' to 'ati'10:31
Zvezdichkoit's a framebuffer server which uses ram10:31
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WaltzingAlongZvezdichko: notv  the display returns just one resolution but vesa cannot find that match10:33
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ZvezdichkoWaltzingAlong: what about setting horiz sync and vert refresh values?10:33
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intelikeyvesa will not work with some monitors.   it's not the card it's the monitor10:33
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WaltzingAlongnotv: had you enabled the fglrx driver with the restricted manager?10:34
notvwhat should it be called?10:34
ugaheh, this is very strange. I can insmod nvidia.ko just fine, but modprobe won't find it. it's under kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko, and depmod lists it... any idea?10:35
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notvwaltzingalong, i have two options- ati accelerated graphics driver, and atheros hardware access layer (HAL)10:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cdrom - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:36
WaltzingAlongnotv: did you check ati accel graphics?10:36
notvi disabled HAL and enabled the first one, and thats what got me into this mess10:36
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notvbut before i did that, it said that HAL was enabled but not in use, and the ati driver was in use but not enabled...does that make any sense?10:37
notvseems backwards to me10:37
intelikeyis it not possable to copy a symlink over scp ?   i don't see a way to 'noderefferance' them  ???10:37
WaltzingAlongnotv: :D ok so they are for different items in your system. we are dealing with the ati one now10:37
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WaltzingAlongnotv: so enable the ati graphics driver in the restricted manager10:38
notvoh crap...the atheros is my wireless card thats right10:38
notvi keep confusing them because NEITHER one wants to work10:38
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notvand then dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to switch from vesa to ati?10:39
Zvezdichkowhat about "reinstall and everything will go on well"10:39
notvif i try that, im dl the gutsy iso10:39
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intelikeyZvezdichko maybe you haven't heard.    Q. "what do linux users do?"   A. "they install software!"      :)10:40
WaltzingAlongnotv: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37506/10:40
WaltzingAlongnotv: well if enabling ati in restricted manager, then you want to pick one called "fglrx"10:40
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Zvezdichkointelikey: the problem is not "installing software" the problem is "uninstalling software"10:41
notvrestricted man only gives me one option10:41
Zvezdichkofor example you just cant apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop10:41
Zvezdichkoif you don't need gnome10:41
WaltzingAlongnotv: only for the ati graphics driver?10:41
notvthe other thing that popped up was my wireless card10:42
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WaltzingAlongnotv: right and ati's restricted driver is named "fglrx"10:42
intelikeyZvezdichko sure you can.   but you need to tell dpkg to get the things that blah depended on...   aptitude might make it easier for you.    idk10:42
Zvezdichkohmmm .. yes...10:43
Zvezdichkobtw why mplayer  subtitles don't work in Gutsy? I have set bulgarian encoding10:43
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Zvezdichkobut I get yeroglyphs10:44
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WaltzingAlongZvezdichko: not the place for gutsy support (not yet anyway)10:44
=== ScorpKing just spend 30mins on the phone trying to get somone to create and share a folder on windows without success...
Zvezdichkowith SMPlayer I don't have this problem :) but sometimes I want pure mplayer10:44
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intelikeyZvezdichko don't know,  hope they fix that by the time gutsy releases...   you can ask in #ubuntu+110:44
ZvezdichkoWaltzingAlong: there is no gutsy support yet?10:45
intelikeyplus one  ^10:45
WaltzingAlongZvezdichko: #kubuntu is for current stable, #ubuntu+1 is for next10:45
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hangthedjis there anyway to use passwd without it prompting for unix password twice, say for a script?10:45
jabbaif i have a line like foo1="bleb10:45
WaltzingAlongZvezdichko: so by the end of october #kubuntu ask about gutsy here too10:45
ZvezdichkoWaltzingAlong: the hierrarchy here is very strange sometimes10:46
Zvezdichkochannel for this, channel for that :)10:46
WaltzingAlongZvezdichko: well what would you prefer?10:46
jabbalike foo1="bleb" foo2="blub" foo3="blab"10:46
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jabbahow do i get the value for foo2 with bash?10:46
WaltzingAlong$foo2 ?10:46
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intelikeyin the first place you need to break that line,   secondly use  $var10:47
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jabbait's just a line of strings10:47
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jabbagrepped before10:47
kirkanyone awake, not busy, with extensive kubutnu knowledge?10:47
notvokay, im rebooting again10:47
ugauhm... I found out what was going on, but... wtf is /etc/modprobe.d/lrm-video? it seems to try installing nvidia each time you modprobe nvidia?10:47
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ugano wonder it fails, if it doesn't know it's already installed there, by nvidia tools10:48
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mark__good morning, my problem is "linux-wide" and it is that i have "no signal" for my lcd no matter what i try, when i use the "nvidia" driver instead of "nv" or "vesa" in xorg.conf. i have a 8600GT10:49
WaltzingAlongkirk: no we are all noobs who just installed this morning10:49
kirklol, sure10:49
kirki am however10:49
jabbais there an xml-parser for bash?10:49
mark__now, i think there is an error message which is about the first message i receive when linux starts booting which says something like: failed to allocate mem resource at blabla10:49
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kirkthe night before last to be exact10:49
ugamark__: that's the resolution setting possibly. Your monitor cant' work at the settings in xorg.conf10:49
notvif i didnt pay 700 bucks for this laptop, i would surely chuck it across my room10:50
ksivajiIs there any way to find nearest DNS ?10:50
WaltzingAlongmark__: have you installed nvidia drivers?10:50
mark__not this time10:50
mark__no it can't be the resolution setting, i already tried that10:50
kirkany advice on how to get my cdrom to work?10:50
ugamark__: have you checked the output when running X from command line?10:50
WaltzingAlongkirk: tell us about some symptoms10:51
mark__the output with "nv" or "nvidia" driver?10:51
ugakirk: goodmorning btw. I fell asleep before I knew if you fixed the drive10:51
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nazgjunk#ubuntu's being unhelpful, so i though i'd ask here - i've read that it's pretty much impossible atm to get linux to work at a 1680x1050 res with my ati card. Is this true, and is there a way to at least have my display not look stretched?10:51
ugakirk: oh, what now, the cd/dvd???10:52
notvwaltzingalong no dice10:52
notvanymore ideas or is it time to install vista?10:52
WaltzingAlongnotv: install vista10:52
ugakirk: it's the same as a drive. It should be /dev/cdrom, /dev/cdrw...10:52
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents10:52
Zvezdichkooh, no, vista is da virus :)10:52
notvits a sad day10:52
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WaltzingAlongnotv: paste the log and conf again10:52
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Zvezdichkonotv: the bad thing is that you're too far away :) get the desktop in Bulgaria10:53
Zvezdichkoand we will see it10:53
mark__hello? has anybody an idea what that "failed to allocate memory resource..." stuff might mean?10:53
ugakirk: or /dev/dvd10:53
kirkits not showing up under disks and filesystems10:53
ugauhm...where's that (disks and filesystems)10:54
kirksystem settings10:54
kirkadvanced tab10:54
ugaheh, do you know the application's name? I have nothing named system settings, here =)10:55
ugathat's not kcontrol, for sure10:55
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ugakirk: where do you run it from. kmenu->system?10:55
kirknope it just says system settings10:55
ugaoh, there it is, a sec =)10:55
ScorpKingnotv: have you tried in #ubuntu? maybe someone there can help.10:56
ugathese guis are soooo complex :P10:56
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WaltzingAlongnotv: in the conf comment out the usefbdev line10:56
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notvscorpking yea ive been trying both rooms for 2 or 3 days now10:56
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kirkoh wait, i told u wrong, it is showing up there10:56
WaltzingAlongnotv:  then restart x   (no need to restart the computer, just sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart)10:56
ksivajiIs there any way to find nearest DNS ?10:56
WaltzingAlongnotv: well there is a different error now10:56
ZvezdichkoWaltzingAlong: is this /etc/init.d/ the same as in Slackware ?10:57
WaltzingAlongksivaji: usually your isp provides some10:57
ScorpKingnotv: yes, i've seen you around. :P10:57
Zvezdichkoservice: start, stop, restart10:57
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notvwaltzingalong comment out or set to false?10:57
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WaltzingAlongZvezdichko: i do not know about slackware but yeah usually programs are installed with scripts there10:57
ugakirk: right, they should show up there10:57
WaltzingAlongnotv: comment out10:57
kirkis it10:57
ugakirk: does your /etc/fstab list them?10:58
ugasomething like /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       010:58
bart_hello all10:58
bart_I'm searching for a good video/movie editor10:58
ZvezdichkoWaltzingAlong: I used slackware several years ago. Everything you install is from surce. Ubuntu is different - it's a binary based distro10:58
bart_anyone knows a good one?10:58
kirkyes - /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 auto nouser,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 010:58
Zvezdichkoand it's a difficult distro10:59
Zvezdichkobart_: kdenlive10:59
Zvezdichkoor kino10:59
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notvwaltzingalong, same black screen10:59
WaltzingAlongbart_: avidemux      vlc mplayer mencoder10:59
bart_what about: cinelerra ??11:00
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Zvezdichkonever tried it11:00
tuco_Hello all11:00
kirkso i would do sudo mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0  ?11:00
Zvezdichkonotv: could you pastebin your conf again?11:00
ugakirk: I don't know how that system gui works, but I'm guessingi you may have to add the drive yourself11:00
Zvezdichkoit'd like to chesk something11:01
tuco_anyone knows how to install a theme on kdm "log in" splash one.11:01
WaltzingAlongnotv: i see "ati" is the device used in the xorg.conf not "fglrx"; ok how about   using Xorg -configure11:01
ugakirk: enter admin mode in the bottom, new...11:01
kirkim there11:01
ugakirk: it sounds like an interface for fstab anyway. Maybe sometbody else can confirm11:01
notvfatal server error: cannot move old log file11:01
kirki believe Enable does Mount11:01
WaltzingAlongnotv: sudo Xorg -configure11:02
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notvoh right11:02
ugakirk: no, enable is automounting on startup11:03
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kirkclicking enable didnt work11:03
ScorpKingkirk: /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       011:04
ugakirk: no, enable is automounting on startup11:04
WaltzingAlongnotv: was it ever working? also we wanted both "enabled ati graphics" in restricted manager and "fglrx" as the driver in the xorg.conf file;11:04
ugakirk: right click, modify...11:04
ugakirk: it's not meant to mount umount11:04
ScorpKingkirk: add that line to your /etc/fstab11:04
ugaScorpKing: [10:58]  <kirk> yes - /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 auto nouser,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 011:04
ugahe's got one11:04
Zvezdichkonotv and WaltzingAlong: is it good to set some HorizSync and VertRefresh values on this log?11:05
ugastrange thing is it's not shown on the gui utility11:05
ScorpKinglol. i missed that. :P11:05
kirkit is showing up11:05
Zvezdichkoit was one of the reasons it got blank screen for me11:05
kirkburner hp dvd writer11:05
WaltzingAlongZvezdichko: yes it might be, do you know them?11:05
notvwaltzingalong, i would get it to work, but then if i shut down and restart it would mess up again, until i depmod -a and aticonfig  --initial and what not11:05
notvnow that doesnt even work11:05
ugakirk: [10:53]  <kirk> its not showing up under disks and filesystems11:05
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ugayou liar ;P11:05
ZvezdichkoWaltzingAlong: I know the values for my monitor.11:06
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Zvezdichkobut we may experiment with something like 50-10011:06
Zvezdichkofor both values11:06
ScorpKinguga: i'm not sure if the rw option will work for cd-roms11:06
Zvezdichkothere's not danger to damage the monitor11:06
kirkok modify is open..11:06
WaltzingAlongnotv: enable ati in restricted manager;  run sudo depmod -ae; run suto aitconfig --initial;  run startkde or sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart11:06
notvxorg -configure is giving me caught signal 11.11:06
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ugaScorpKing: uhm. true. mine doesn't show it11:07
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ScorpKinguga: the one i gave is the ubuntu standard one.11:08
kirkim kinda stuck on what to do now11:09
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notvfound fglrx primary device section, nothing to do, term11:09
mark__has anybody got an idea how to get the 8600 GT to work with the off. nvidia driver?11:09
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ScorpKingkirk: can you pastebin your /etc/fstab?11:11
ugakirk: what's the problem. your original problem was it doesn't show up on that tool. Now that it shows... what's it =)11:11
ugakirk: you insert the dvd/cd, go into konqueror. Type media:/   does it show up?11:11
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notvi got gui back!11:13
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WaltzingAlongnotv: feel like posting the files now too?11:13
alesanhi how do I reconfigure the X server? I changed from ATI to nvidia11:13
alesanand now nothing is working11:13
WaltzingAlongalesan: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:13
alesandpkg-reconf somtheing right?11:13
mark__what means "failed to allocate memory resource for device xxxxxxxx"?11:14
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ugamark__: is that when loading some kernel module?11:16
ugaI read similar errors from ati driver things11:16
alesanwhere is it written the network configuration? I want to be able to modify by the command line11:17
WaltzingAlongmark__: when booting? when connecting a usb device? https://bugs.launchpad.net/linux/+bug/54294 ?11:17
WaltzingAlongalesan: /etc/network/interfaces11:17
WaltzingAlongalesan: /etc/network/interfaces      /etc/resolv.conf too many11:17
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ScorpKingkirk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37514/11:17
mark__when booting11:18
kirkmucho gracias11:18
WaltzingAlongkirk: prego11:18
mark__and i think the device is the graphics card11:18
WaltzingAlongnotv: great and using the fglrx (ati binary) restricted driver no less11:18
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ugakirk: WaltzingAlong: uhm... not sure what's worse. The first misspelt spanish, or the response that was mistakenly done in italian, instead ;)11:19
pillowpantswhats the keyboard hot keys for katapult?11:19
pillowpantsanyone know off hand?11:19
WaltzingAlongi understood his meant to be spanish and i wished to reply with the italian11:19
WaltzingAlongso uga if you had to pick, which was worse?11:19
ugahehe okay then ;)11:19
mark__umm WaltzingAlong11:20
kirkScorpKing: thats done11:20
mark__if that's a bug link11:20
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WaltzingAlongpillowpants: alt+space            then ctrl+c to configure11:20
mark__should i read it, or won't they have a solution anyways?11:20
WaltzingAlongmark__: it may not be the same thing11:20
ScorpKingkirk: sudo ls /dev/ | grep hdc11:20
pillowpantsWaltzingAlong: thanks11:20
mark__well it seems to be11:21
ScorpKingkirk: does hdc show up?11:21
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WaltzingAlonguga: you may also have noticed that i was not helping kirk but i jumped in to take some of the thanks passed around ;)11:21
mark__but they don't seem to relate it to issues with their graphics cards11:21
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ugaWaltzingAlong: LOL. No, actually I didn't =)11:21
mark__is there any initiative that tries to banish abbreviations such as "lol" "rofl" "wtf" or "rtfm" from the universe?11:23
WaltzingAlongmark__: dyswit? iks!11:24
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notvwaltzingalong thanks much!11:24
WaltzingAlongnotv: glad it is working11:24
notvi think my atheros card is magically working too, this is pretty sweet11:24
ugamark__: try #windows. I believe those are banned there11:24
ugaoh lol, there's actually people there!11:24
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kirkyes it is! thank you so much11:25
kirki would be drowning in linux if it wasn't for you guys11:25
ScorpKingkirk: so it's all working now?11:26
mark__it seems that this mem allocation error occurs rather often with laptops...11:26
WaltzingAlongkirk: eventually you would have figured out you needed only stand since the water was not above your knees anyway11:26
kirklet me test with a cd11:26
mark__you think i might try a new mobo bios?11:26
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WaltzingAlongmark__: could be with the bios, could be with media readers,11:26
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mark__but i know the address it shows is my graphics cards address11:27
mark__media reader would be a card reader?11:27
m477how check how many i have free space on disk ?11:27
mark__what's a media reader?11:27
WaltzingAlongmark__: yeah. well11:27
WaltzingAlongm477: df -11:27
WaltzingAlongm477: df -h11:27
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mark__do you think the nv driver would have a workaround for this mem allocation stuff but not the "nvidia" driver?11:28
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alesanhow can I install the nvidia dirvers from the command line?11:32
alesanthe nv one is giving me many problems11:32
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kirkquick question, theres a directory i made on my desktop, now it wont let me delete it11:35
mark__you think i should try that:11:36
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ScorpKingkirk: sudo rmdir /home/kirk/Desktop/dir11:37
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notvhmm maybe its not working...i have ndiswrapper and the wireless driver installed for my ar5007eg11:39
notvit even pulls up the different wireless networks available, but it wont connect for some reason11:39
notvdo i have to tinker with some other settings?11:40
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lnx_someone know how to view priview of movies in konqueror ( like you see mini pictures of or the first lines of text files . . . ) ?11:52
emilsedghlnx_: !info kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins | lnx_11:53
emilsedgh!info kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins | lnx_11:54
ubotulnx_: kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins: au/avi/m3u/mp3/ogg/wav plugins for kfile. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 128 kB, installed size 496 kB11:54
lnx_emilsedgh , i talk about movies not audio11:54
ScorpKingkirk: uhm? so the cd-rom is working?11:55
emilsedghlnx_: it worked for me :)11:55
lnx_emilsedgh , you can see preview of wmv , avi , mpg files ?11:56
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lnx_i already have it and still i cant view preview , someone have idea ?11:58
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flakeshould I go with gdesklets or screenlets, or is there another..12:00
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flakescreenlets don't have transparency without running compiz or similar12:01
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aantipophow do i get icons into ccsm ?12:04
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ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects12:07
ubunturosanyone knows of an alternative to raspppoe client in windows12:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about raspppoe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:07
jussi01!info raspppoe12:07
ubotuPackage raspppoe does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas12:07
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ubunturos!info rs-pppoe12:08
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jussi01ubunturos: isnt kppp what you are after?12:08
ubotuPackage rs-pppoe does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas12:08
jussi01!info kppp12:08
ubotukppp: modem dialer and ppp frontend for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu9 (feisty), package size 675 kB, installed size 3696 kB12:08
ubunturosjussi01: no, alternative to raspppoe12:08
ubunturosjussi01: isn't kppp just for dial-up connections?12:08
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ubunturosjussi01: http://www.raspppoe.com/ - for info12:09
ubotuSetting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE12:10
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jussi01ubunturos: does that help...12:11
ubunturosjussi01: may be it will.12:11
ubunturosjussi01: I did see the document earlier. I hope, pppoeconf runs at my friend's place12:11
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jussi01ubunturos: good luck!12:12
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Argazmhi guys12:13
ubunturosjussi01: :) - thanks.12:13
ArgazmWhat makes Kubuntu better than the normal Ubuntu ???12:13
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ubunturosArgazm: KDE and out of box12:13
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.12:13
jussi01Argazm: neither kde or gnome is better, its a matter of choice12:14
ArgazmI've heard that kde uses a lot more memory12:14
aantipopnot a lot12:14
jussi01Argazm: a little, but not much12:14
aantipopwont hurt your gigabyte or whatever ram modules12:14
jussi01Argazm: go google kde vs gnome, there are more than enough resources...12:14
ArgazmI must admit tho, K3b is a damn good burning suite... beats gnomebaker hands down12:15
Argazmjussi01: I've been reading google results for a while now, I'd rather hear it 1st hand...12:15
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jussi01Argazm: this is the support channel for kubuntu, we can help you with solving problems, please go to #kubuntu-offtopic for such discussions12:16
Argazmoh, ok... thx12:16
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danyahello .. I have a problem when i want 2 save a session, with all the nice  accesories, it boots again like i didnt save nothing!!12:21
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enjoi1216hey room whats up ?12:34
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enjoi1216you know i wonder if wine can run myspace messenger12:35
enjoi1216but see heres the thing that sucks about wine though12:36
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enjoi1216it's like you have to have windows XP or win vista installed on your system in order to get an emulator to work12:36
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feimaoSysinfo for 'ubuntu': Linux 2.6.20-16-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: AMDAthlonXP2500+ at 1831 MHz (3665 bogomips), , RAM: 497/503MB, 133 proc's, 4.38min up12:37
enjoi1216because i would like to be able to get Win apps to work on Kubuntu with just having Kubuntu installed alone bare bones without even having to run Windows on your hard drive12:38
enjoi1216anyone in this room have an opinion12:38
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enjoi1216on what i just typed12:39
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enjoi1216anyone at all12:39
gnomefreakenjoi1216: window apps need something else to run on linux like crossover-office or wine12:39
Zvezdichkoor cedega12:40
Zvezdichkofor games12:40
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enjoi1216well tell me this gnome12:40
ZvezdichkoActually, Linux is wonderful and there are a lot of good programs12:40
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Zvezdichkoenjoi1216: what do you want to know about gnome12:40
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Zvezdichkognomefreak: are you a fan of gnome?12:41
enjoi1216like is it mandatory when you are running an emulator on linux like is it mandatory to have Windows installed on your hard drive also is what i'm trying to find out12:42
gnomefreakZvezdichko: you can say that12:42
Zvezdichkoyes, but right now KDE is better12:42
gnomefreakenjoi1216: you dont need to install windows if your app runs on one of the 3 listed12:42
Zvezdichkobetter integration, better software12:42
enjoi1216i know that gnome but thats not answering my question12:42
Zvezdichkoas for Gnome I have only a few apps - Rhythmbox, Epiphany...12:42
gnomefreakZvezdichko: doesnt matter what is better, as it is an opinion and offtopic for this channel12:43
enjoi1216like if you are running Linux alone12:43
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enjoi1216and lets say that you want to run a Windows software application on Linux12:43
Zvezdichkoenjoi1216: you may see it is you type sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop12:43
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Zvezdichkothen you install wine12:43
ugaenjoi1216: first try wine, if it fails, try something like crossover, or go vmware-like things12:44
enjoi1216then my question is in order to do so do you have to have Windows installed on your PC in order to run a Windows application on Linux is my question12:44
gnomefreakenjoi1216: and i said no12:44
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=== garfield what folder holds the bookmarks for konqueror?
gnomefreakplease re read what i said12:44
Zvezdichkoenjoi1216: no. you may build a fake windows drive12:44
enjoi1216no i understand you12:44
Zvezdichkoit's a fake c:12:45
enjoi1216all i wa trying to do is get straight to the point12:45
Zvezdichkobut it's not the same c: as /dev/sda1 for example12:45
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enjoi1216well see because the thing is is that i am wanting to install myspace messenger on Kubuntu but i don't know if it will work or not12:45
ugaenjoi1216: well, run it under wine and see the result ;)12:46
enjoi1216well but do you know if it will work12:46
ugaif I did, I'd have answered differently ;)12:46
enjoi1216uga send me the link so i can download wine12:46
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.12:47
=== garfield what folder holds the bookmarks for konqueror?
gnomefreakmyspce messenger may be too new to run on wine12:47
gnomefreakgarfield: should be in profile12:47
ugaenjoi1216: you just need to "apt-get install wine"12:47
ugawell, uhm... it's on the standard repos or had I added it?12:47
gnomefreakuga: multiverse i think12:48
gnomefreak!info wine feisty12:48
ubotuwine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.33-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 9576 kB, installed size 44452 kB12:48
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enjoi1216well i'm on the wine webpage looking now and i don't see anywhere where i can download wine from and what version that i need to install12:49
gnomefreakenjoi1216: enable universe repo and install it with apt12:50
enjoi1216i have the adept manager on my KDE start menu programs12:51
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enjoi1216i don't have apt on my pc12:52
enjoi1216so what do i need to do gnome12:53
enjoi1216hey uga where do i find apt at on my KDE start menu12:54
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garfieldgnomefreak: i only find firefox profile12:54
gnomefreakgarfield: your not looking in ~/.kde12:54
enjoi1216uga are you there12:55
ugaenjoi1216: apt isn't gui application, it's a command line one12:55
gnomefreakgarfield:  i dont have the path atm but all kde is in ~/.kde somewhere12:55
danyahello .. I have a problem when i want 2 save a session, with all the nice  accesories, it boots again like i didnt save nothing!!12:55
enjoi1216ok well teach me how to go about doing these things because i'm somewhat Linux illiterate12:56
enjoi1216because i need hands on instructions12:56
ugaenjoi1216: there's application installers on your menu too. No need to go command line12:56
ugaunfortunately I can't help you out right now myself, since the whole of my desktop is running an unstable version of kde12:57
ugacan anyone help him out find out any apt frontends he may have?12:57
enjoi1216but apt uga is not on my menu is what i'm saying at all12:57
ugaenjoi1216: I know. The problem is I cannot help you out trying to find out the applications taht _are_ on your menu12:57
ugabecause the desktop you are seeing isn't what I'm running right now12:58
ugawhat was that kde frontend...12:58
ugasomebody remember?12:58
enjoi1216what are you running uga are you running ubuntu or Kubuntu12:58
flaccidwhat are you going on about uga12:58
ugaenjoi1216: kubuntu12:58
enjoi1216well see thats what i am running also12:58
enjoi1216i'm running the saame thing12:58
ugaflaccid: nothing myself. Try tell him how to install applications from teh gui. I cannot remember the gui app names12:59
ugaflaccid: I'm running a kde4 svn desktop right now, so I cannot dig the menus ;)12:59
ubotuA general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents12:59
flaccidwhat format are these applications packaged in?12:59
ugaflaccid: he needs to install wine, so first he needs to enable universe and then apt it01:00
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ugabut as he doesn't know about linux I'd rather not tell him do so through command line01:00
ugaoh well, a sec. I'll start up a second desktop =)01:01
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu01:01
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto01:01
flaccidenjoi1216, install the package via adept manager which is the graphical front end01:01
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uga|awayoh now yes01:03
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uga|awayheh, what was the nick I was talking to? =)01:03
gnomefreakuga|away: enjoi121601:04
gnomefreakor flaccid01:04
uga|awayah, thanks. The kde4 desktop went all black when I switched01:04
uga|awayenjoi1216: okay, _now_ I'm running what you are running ;) Go into the menu, System->Manage Packages (Adept Manager)01:05
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uga|awayenjoi1216: then on the menus, follow: adept->manage repositories01:06
BluesKaj'morning all ...up early this morn :)01:07
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uga|awayenjoi1216: on the first tab (kubuntu software), check "community maintained opensource software"01:07
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uga|awayenjoi1216: then press close, and select "fetch updates"01:08
uga|awaythat will update the list from the new "universe" named repository01:08
uga|awaysearch for wine, and install it01:08
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combinioif i want to connect my LCD monitor via DVI - do i need some extra drivers ?01:09
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uga|awaynow lets see if I can fix the kde4 desktop :/01:09
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danyahow can I edit the source list ?01:09
danyaI tried gedit /etc/ .... but I cant seem to save it01:10
alligatorsalut !01:10
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combiniodanya: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list IN KDE01:10
fkmdanya: You need super user privileged01:10
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fkmprivileged > privileges01:10
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BluesKaja hint , check system settings/advanced/windows applications , will install wine without searching01:11
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BluesKajcoffee coffee!!01:12
flaccidi want beer01:12
lozzyKubuntu seems to be having problems with my primary dvd+rw. It'll pick up on it after a reboot, but when the kde apps touch it they have a tendency to crash (kaffeine,k3b). My other drive seems to be ok. I've rolled back to an older kernel, but no luck. Everything else is great by the way, fantastic KDE distro.01:12
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BluesKaj7:12 in the morning here , no beer til this afternoon01:12
danyacombinio : how about on gnome?01:13
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enjoi1216hey uga does community software need to be checked or unchecked01:13
ugaenjoi1216: checked. That means enabled01:13
combiniodanya: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list01:13
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flaccidi hope they dig me up some gold then01:13
ugaafter that fetch update01:13
combiniodanya: and then type your password01:13
enjoi1216because on the community software the box has an x in it representing that it has been checked01:13
lozzyOccasionally the whole of KDE will go down and flash up errors on a console screen about /dev/hdc01:13
combinio.........if i want to connect my LCD monitor via DVI - do i need some extra drivers ???01:15
flaccidcombinio, nope01:16
lozzyDoes anyone have any suggestions/experienced something similar?01:16
BluesKajlozzy , have you set up your BIOS to look both dvd/cd drives first, then the floppy (if you have one) and lastly the HDD ...that's the best sequence for kubuntu, it seems01:16
combinioflaccid: so if it doesn't work it means that there something wrong with DVI cable ? :/01:17
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enjoi1216ok uga i found wine on the update list and i requested an install on the wine update to make sure it was installed on my sytem01:17
lozzyYou mean the boot sequence? Why would that matter?01:17
combinioor there might be other reasons ? :] 01:17
=== xp_killer anyone who is noob like me :) if there planing to play around with the source.list,xorg.gonf and fstab should make an emergency backup on a usb key.you never know what could happen ;)
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BluesKajlozzy, dunno why but ,we had a similar prob a while back and the user solved his prob with that setup01:18
ugaenjoi1216: have you selected "apply changes"?01:18
lozzywell, it's worth a try.01:18
ugaenjoi1216: it's when it begins installing01:18
enjoi1216yeah and it is downloading the program right now01:18
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enjoi1216i'm waiting on it to download01:18
gnomefreakxp_killer: look for the file with the ~ at the end from hidden files that is a backup :)01:19
flacciddepends on what edited the file if there is a backup01:19
ugaenjoi1216: you install all software on kubuntu this way. No need to go for internet links01:19
ugawell, mostly01:19
xp_killergnomefreak: ok01:20
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flaccidread the software guide pasted before :)01:20
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enjoi1216well see i checked the details when wine was installing itself and it said i had an error but i think ti installed itself though01:21
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robertohi, I have a problem with kubuntu. I have an isdn connection (so I'm using isdnctrl) and it's fine if I use apt-get or, for example, Konversation. When I try to use Konqueror or Kopete they can't go on internet. Konqueror tell me immediately: An error occurred while loading website_name.01:21
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gnomefreakxp_killer: sources.list and xorg should01:21
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robertowith firefox no problem01:22
robertoit seems to be a problem only with kde programs01:22
uga|awayenjoi1216: view->show last package run->show details01:22
uga|awayyou may see the error there, possibly?01:22
uga|awaynot too sure01:22
flaccidroberto, you could try #kde01:22
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robertoflaccid: do you think it's a kde problem...maybe you're right :)01:23
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gnomefreakmake sure konq. isnt set to use a proxie01:23
gnomefreaki think its a kubuntu issue not upstream01:23
robertono I checked that01:23
flaccidroberto, yeah they have had problems like that in the past, thats for sure01:23
robertono proxy01:23
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uga|awayenjoi1216: else, just test it by opening a terminal (menu->system->terminal program (konsole))01:24
uga|awaythen in order to run a windows installer, just type "wine setup.exe" for  example01:24
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.01:25
uga|awayyou can do that with konqueror too01:25
flaccidwine guide ^^ that doesn't get you drunk01:25
uga|awayflaccid: heh, cheers01:25
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prudvihow to update the system after first install01:26
xp_killerprudvi: sudo apt-get updat then sudo apt-upgrade01:26
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flaccidprudvi, there will usually be an icon in the tray saying updates available. you just click on it01:26
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prudvigot it01:27
uga|awayxp_killer: apt-upgrade is 404 =)01:27
uga|awayxp_killer: apt-get dist-upgrade ?01:27
flaccidno need for cli01:27
prudviflaccid >>  what are the best repos available for kubuntu01:27
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flaccidprudvi, the supported ones. depends entirely on what you need...01:28
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.01:28
xp_killeruga|away: 404?? no dist upgrade01:28
uga|awayxp_killer: 404== not found =) That command doesn't exist here01:28
uga|awayapt-get dist-upgrade should work though01:28
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uga|awayxp_killer: apt options are: apt-cache,apt-config,apt-ftparchive,apt-key,apt-sortpkgsapt-cdrom,apt-extracttemplates,apt-get,apt-mark01:29
flaccidsometimes its best to give only the information needed01:30
BluesKaj'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'01:30
uga|awayBluesKaj: that's what I suggested =)01:30
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flaccidkubuntu is a desktop OS01:31
shindahey guys, i downloaded some kde patches that  I needed and was wondering how I installl, apply them? from my understanding its patch --b [ORIGFILE [PATCHFILE] ]  but how I find the ORIGFILE for instance kdelibs I tried locate but recieved dozens of results01:31
BluesKajya gotta give some ppl the whole command , no "understood" stuff01:31
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flaccidnewbies don't need cli01:31
xp_killeruga|away: what are u trying to tell me?01:31
uga|away[13:27]  <uga|away> xp_killer: apt-upgrade is 404 =)01:32
uga|away[13:27]  <uga|away> xp_killer: apt-get dist-upgrade ?01:32
uga|awayBluesKaj: _I_ did ;)01:32
uga|awayxp_killer: you are suggesting to use "apt-upgrade"01:32
uga|awaythat command doesn't exist =)01:32
xp_killeryes apt-get upgrade01:32
flacciddon't flood uga|away01:32
BluesKajerr don't forget sudo01:32
uga|awayflaccid: what should I do, just ignore questions directed at me?01:33
uga|awayand accusing me of pointing out wrong instructions when all I did was fixing them? =)01:33
flacciduga|away, just don't flood01:33
xp_killerprudvi: sudo apt-get update  then sudo apt-get upgrade01:33
flacciduga|away, i never did such a thing01:33
BluesKajno accusations , just reminders01:33
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xp_killeruga|away: :p i was in a hurry to run in the bathrrom01:34
uga|awayflaccid: others did, and I just responded. I don't see I flooded anywhere. Just a two liner paste to point out backlogs01:34
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flacciduga|away, you must be blind. you pasted 6 lines in a row a few seconds ago01:34
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uga|awayflaccid: I must be blind, yes 6 lines, 2 pasted, 4 typed01:35
flaccideither way its 6 lines.01:35
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uga|awayoh my. flaccid how do you expect me to paste 3 lines and then respond to two people in less than 6 lines01:35
uga|awaymust be hard01:35
uga|awayanyway, help them out yourself01:36
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flaccidi don't expect you to do anything uga01:36
BluesKajhey flaccid, uga|away... let's not fill the page with flames01:36
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flaccidproblem is gone now01:36
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xp_killereuh lol?01:37
xp_killeruga nooooooooon01:37
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xp_killerflaccid:  reminde me of Tm_T01:38
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ugaflaccid: fuck off. Btw, don't flood you pasted like 10 lines in a row in less than  minute01:39
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uganow cya01:39
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xp_killerBluesKaj: there this website http://fullanimes.free.fr/animes-episodes-ddl-sexy.php?id_anime=867 it play good in firefox but in konqueror it bugs out and slows down my pc01:39
BluesKajxp_killer, then don't use konq , prolly doen't have the right plugins installed01:40
simenhey folks any1 here who play`s wow and can give me some help with the installing/updating?01:41
flaccidprobably because that site is coded quite badly particularly in the javascript/behaviour area01:41
xp_killerBluesKaj: yeah but i dont like to surf with 2 web browser01:41
xp_killeri perfer konq01:41
xp_killerflaccid: i tink so01:41
flaccidsimen, i think there is a decent howto on the wiki01:41
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simenflaccid i know but it only says how to install and i mannaged that... the problem is to update...01:42
BluesKajyeah, konq doesn't work on some sites at all , one or 2 have refused to load...one even refused in to play video FFcuz the site "doesn't support your OS"01:43
flaccidoh ok, sorry i can't help further on that simen01:43
xp_killersimen: google is everyone best friend :)01:43
flaccidits more that sites don't work for konq than konq working for the sites01:44
flaccidie. web standards01:44
simenxp_killer: fine will keep trying... sick of googling for the problem:P all the answers are telling me how to install not to update:P but tnx anyway^^01:44
xp_killersimen: google have a way bigger brain01:45
BluesKajyeah, well as far as I'm concerned if it doesn't work then it's prolly broadly tuned for IE01:45
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flaccidmore like the developer sux. IE can do standards, 90% of devs are just non standard01:47
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nazgjunkflaccid: that's not a complete truth01:48
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nazgjunki haven't yet seen a browser that did exactly what it should with css01:48
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nazgjunkand IE6 had trouble with some aspects of frames01:49
Danixalguien habla espaol?01:49
enjoi1216hey uga are you there01:49
djdarkman_nazgjunk: IE is not famous for being compatible with specs01:50
arashseriously, is there any difference bewteen Kwrite and Kate? They seem to be exactly the same :p01:50
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enjoi1216hey darkman01:50
djdarkman_arash: you can open only one file with kwrite01:50
flaccidnazgjunk, no browser does, doesn't mean that it can't do what is required01:50
enjoi1216i have the wine program installed on Kubuntu machine01:50
enjoi1216and i can't figure out how to download myspace im01:51
djdarkman_myspace has an im?01:51
enjoi1216it's like a messenger program01:51
enjoi1216yeah all it is01:51
djdarkman_don`t you know what protocol it uses?01:51
enjoi1216is it's like yahoo messenger01:51
enjoi1216Windows XP01:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kopee - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kopete - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hola - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:52
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins01:52
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ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects01:52
djdarkman_enjoi1216: wait a sec i`ll check this out01:52
enjoi1216well see i can download it01:52
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enjoi1216but it asks me what to open it with01:52
enjoi1216then if i save it i can save it to my desktop01:53
shindaanyone have experience with xinerama on kde?01:53
enjoi1216but then when i try to open it to install the program on my machine then it's like it doesn't do anything01:53
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about info-kopete - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:54
arashenjoi1216 , hmm , it actually might be worth checking out the alternatives :), that is Kopete01:54
pag!info kopete01:54
ubotukopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu9 (feisty), package size 7108 kB, installed size 19632 kB01:54
arashBluesKaj , yes, it's extremely strange if you ask me.01:54
BluesKajaha pag got it :)01:55
enjoi1216ok but how do i go about getting the new Kopete01:55
enjoi1216i mean i know that i could check it out through the adept manager01:55
BluesKajenjoi1216, which vers number or is it a dev version01:56
djdarkman_!info opera01:56
ubotuPackage opera does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas01:56
ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser01:56
flaccidopera is the shiz01:57
BluesKajopera works well on feisty01:57
enjoi1216i don't think it lists one Blues01:57
djdarkman_opera is the coolest browser on earth :)01:57
flaccidoh yeah!01:57
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arashhmm, shouldn't the size of the packages you download with adept be a lot a lot smaller, couldn't it just download the source code and then compile it?01:58
djdarkman_arash: that would be mega slow01:58
arashdjdarkman_: why :p ? are the sources bigger than the binaries?01:58
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djdarkman_arash: they are smaller, but it takes too long for the system to compile them01:59
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enjoi1216hey darkman01:59
arashdjdarkman_: ah, are they Written in C++?01:59
enjoi1216is there anything i can do other then Kopete to get myspace im to install itself and working on my computer01:59
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djdarkman_arash: it depends on what program are you alking about02:00
flaccidarash that would defeat the purpose of a binary package02:00
djdarkman_enjoi1216: kopete is a multy protocol IM02:00
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runleveltenWhat protocol is myspace IM?02:00
djdarkman_enjoi1216: kopete is kompatible with yahoo , msn and many more, but I think it ins`t with myspacwe02:00
arashhmm, Im always programmiing in pascal, so it takes 3 secs to compile :p.02:00
djdarkman_runlevelten: it`s something like MSN but not quite02:01
enjoi1216then i guess i'll never be able to run myspace on my Kubuntu machine02:01
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BluesKajenjoi1216, the latest kopete is installed with kde by default from the versions available at sourceforge etc02:01
flaccidmyspace just requires flash02:01
runleveltenThe problem is not many programmers seem to use myspace, so someone's gonna have to pay for support I spect.02:01
BluesKajenjoi1216,  I mean they are the same02:01
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flaccidbasically the myspace devs can't dev...02:02
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djdarkman_enjoi1216: the problem is with myspace02:02
enjoi1216ok flaccid then if myspace requires flash then how do i hands on training in this room go about installing flash and installing myspace im on my machine02:02
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enjoi1216ok tell me how darkman02:02
flaccid!flash | enjoi121602:02
ubotuenjoi1216: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash02:02
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enjoi1216yeah ubotu but after i install flash then how do i install myspace im02:03
enjoi1216see there exists another problem02:04
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djdarkman_enjoi1216: try with wine02:04
arashman, you are cracking me up :p , you are talking to a bot ;)02:04
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djdarkman_arash: it happens if you are unfamilliar with IRC02:06
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lnx_ineed help i try to fix this two days - someone know how i can view preview of movies ( when i browse in ntfs local driverrr ) in konqueror ?02:07
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arashlnx_ : you want to see them in konquerer, but not media player, right?02:08
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BluesKajenjoi1216, if you do a google search , you'll find several refernces to ppl using 'pidgin' to run the myspace IM on linux...looks like it'll take a little work tho.02:09
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waylandbillI'd use konqueror if it used my ff extentions02:10
flaccidmyspace is a website isn't it02:10
flaccidoh myspace im ?02:10
lnx_arash , not , not this at all , i talk about preview like images have preview and instead to see and image icon you see small picture , or in text fiels you have preview with icon that have the 4 first lines of the text file02:10
waylandbillmyspace im. never heard of it.02:10
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arashlnx_: ah :), how come I didn't think of that :)02:10
enjoi1216well blues would you be willing to help me out with it because the reason why i'm trying to do this is because i have a lot of local friends that i email and communicate with on myspace02:10
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flaccidenjoi1216, i think you should complain to myspace for lack of linux support and standards02:11
djdarkman_I`ve herad of myspace but this is the first time I hear that it has an IM too02:11
lnx_:( i try to know how to do it two days02:11
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enjoi1216well i need to know how many people are willing to help me out with installing it02:11
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enjoi1216installing it hands on that is02:12
bjwebbx is broke :S02:12
enjoi1216because i know blues probably would02:12
waylandbillMust be pervs need an im too.02:12
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flaccidprobably no one enjoi121602:12
enjoi1216shutup flaccid you are a hater02:12
flaccidi try to avoid supporting crap software personally02:13
bjwebbx, froze, i killed it using alt+sysrq+k, texmode, reset02:13
BluesKajsorry enjoi1216 , i'm not much of an IM user and relly don't know much about them ...as far as email is concerned , any email client should be able to send messages to your friends at myspace.02:13
bjwebbhow do i start it again?02:13
flaccidenjoi1216, im on freenode, i have the right to speak02:13
enjoi1216if you are going to be software prejudice02:13
flaccidits might right to be enjoi121602:13
enjoi1216yeah but not to offend people and plus freenode is government funded02:13
flaccidenjoi1216, maybe this will help you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=184223&page=3 but they mainly back up my claims02:14
enjoi1216and if you offend someone you can get in serious trouble02:14
flaccidi don't see how i could be offending anyone by stating facts02:14
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arashenjoi1216: man calm down... He's just suggesting that you try alternative open software, which is what freenode is all about02:15
flaccidthanks arash02:15
BluesKajflaccid, enuff already02:15
flaccidim not doing anything BluesKaj02:16
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BluesKajppl have the right to try software that others don't approve of02:16
enjoi1216well i'm trying to get help and it feels like no one wants to help me you people need to understand i'm just as normal as anyone in this room is i'm just trying to get better at Linux and making things work on Kubuntu02:16
flaccidBluesKaj, i never said they didn't...02:16
flaccidenjoi1216, myspace im does not work on linux. there is a petition for it if you wish to sign it.02:17
enjoi1216well it blows because you can download the wine emulator and not even wine will accept it and run it through wine02:18
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enjoi1216it's aggravating02:18
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BluesKajenjoi1216, the problem is that the social sites like myspace  setup proprietary IM apps that they assume will only be populated by windows users ...it's not deliberate , it's just benign neglect.02:19
flaccidthats the case for a majority of windows software thus the reason for projects like cedega and crossover02:19
flaccidvendors need to support linux in this case myspace has failed to support anything but microsoft users02:19
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arashI don't get it, Microsoft started a new IM protocol with name of 'MySpace'? Like their old MSN-protocol ?02:20
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waylandbillI prefer open software. any hint of proprietary and I shy away.02:20
enjoi1216well anyone in this room that has an account with myspace or that supports software compatability needs to wite Tom of Myspace and get on him and tell him that there are just as many Linux Kubuntu users if not more and that he needs to make myspace im compatable with Linux02:21
enjoi1216and arash02:21
enjoi1216Microsoft didn't start myspace02:21
waylandbillnoone said MSFT started myspace02:21
enjoi1216the person who started http://www.myspace.com/ was Tom02:21
flaccidmyspace was sold enjoi1216, Tom doesn't have much to do with it now02:22
enjoi1216thats what everybody knows him by02:22
BluesKajenjoi1216, did you try to install it under wine ...I had a similar problem with neotrace not running the exec file , but I used the install application file in wine and it worked , voilsa , i have neotrce pro running on kubuntu02:22
flaccidBluesKaj, enjoi1216 confirm support in wine db for this application first?02:22
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enjoi1216yeah but he still manages the sight because i see him on there when i'm on my windows machine02:22
enjoi1216ok and how do i do that02:23
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flaccidno he doesn't manage it anymore, thats a myth. newscorp bought it for 580mil dollars..02:23
BluesKajenjoi1216, do you have wine installed?02:23
enjoi1216yeah but i don't know how to use wine is the issue02:23
flaccidit may not even be supported by wine, that needs to be checked first..02:24
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BluesKajflaccid, ok would you like to check it ?02:24
flaccidlooking now02:24
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flaccidmyspace im wine: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=3398  . mixed results, but success for some02:25
arashenjoi1216 , you tried 'wine <filepath>' :p ? but let flacc cehck if its working02:25
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enjoi1216and how do i do that?02:27
arashopen a shell, type 'wine ', then drag the file you want to install in the shell, press 'paste in' in the pop-up that appears when droping in the file02:27
arash(don't press enter after typing in 'wine ' !)02:28
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flaccidbasically if it crashes when run under wine as arash advises, you will have to wait for support to improve. for most people myspace im fails02:28
arashyep, but tell your friends to use jabber ! (j/k :p =02:29
flaccidreading the appdb entry, its not going to work at this stage02:29
flaccidyes tell them to use jabber!!02:29
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flacciddo you still think im a hater, enjoi1216 ?02:29
enjoi1216this really sucks02:29
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enjoi1216by the way now where do i find the newscorps website at02:30
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enjoi1216is it liek newscorp.com02:31
arash!google | enjoi121602:31
ubotuenjoi1216: Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux02:31
flaccidfirst result in google...02:31
xp_killergoogle is your friend02:31
enjoi1216well do you think that newscorp will try to shut myspace down02:31
flaccidnot at this stage02:32
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enjoi1216but like do you think myspace will live on is what i'm asking02:32
flaccidi hope not02:32
enjoi1216flaccid quit hatin02:32
enjoi1216so what if everybodys into it02:32
enjoi1216they have independent myspace groups you know02:33
flaccidi never used the word hate in any way enjoi1216 . im a web developer. myspace is not web standards so it just doesn't cut it...02:33
enjoi1216but still it's a popular thing that everybody is into02:33
enjoi1216i mean good lord flaccid02:33
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enjoi1216i don't care if you are a homosexual gothic person looking to make new friends02:34
flaccidyou do realise that the reason it doesn't work for you is because they don't use standards or support open software...02:34
enjoi1216thats very independent02:34
enjoi1216and myspace would even support that02:34
flaccidi think you are reading more than what my words say02:34
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enjoi1216no i'm just saying02:34
enjoi1216you need to quit looking at myspace like it's sold out02:35
enjoi1216like it's the popular thing to do02:35
BluesKajenjoi1216, you have to try to make things happen in linux by doing some things by yourself . We're here to help , not hold your hand and there's no need for personal comments either.02:35
flaccidcan you stop putting words in my mouth. everything you have said about me, i never said at alll02:35
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flaccidthank you BluesKaj02:35
enjoi1216yeah well that maybe that myspace is sold out but there are different and independent people on there02:36
enjoi1216like gothic people02:36
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enjoi1216independent label punk rockers,computer programmers,networkers,people that like that snowboard,and all sorts of people02:37
flaccidthis has nothing to do with goths lol02:37
BluesKajthe goths and visigoths lived 1000yrs ago02:37
xp_killerBluesKaj: does it have anymore important files beside the fstab,source list and xorg.conf?02:37
enjoi1216it's popular and independent is what i'm saying02:37
enjoi1216yeah i know you have heard abotu myspace pedifiles02:37
enjoi1216but thats everywhere you go02:37
flaccidthats irrelevant. we are talking about support, not popularity02:37
enjoi1216i understand that02:38
BluesKajenjoi1216, enuff already02:38
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!02:38
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enjoi1216but all i'm saying is that you say it's closed source like it's a bad thing but all i'm saying is that it is a nice website02:38
enjoi1216gothic people are still living today Blues02:39
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Tunaenjoi1216: gothic is as well a historic phase several hundret years ago.02:42
TunaBlues: Gothic is as well  youth movement of melancholic thought, black clothes and pale faces.02:42
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TunaDo you know what the current status of startup skripts in gutsy is?02:44
enjoi1216yeah but still it is in music and dressing in black02:44
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flaccidthe status is they should work?02:44
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Tunahave they already replaced the init.d skripts?02:44
flaccidperhaps you should ask in #ubuntu+102:45
enjoi1216and Tuna:goths are around it's just different and changed now02:45
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Tunaenjoi1216: no you mean punks: they are about being different.02:45
Tunanot you mean rappers02:45
Tunano you mean <hipster>02:46
Tunano ou mean being a youth02:46
wersopenoffice.org's icons do not follow my system icons... how do I change them?02:46
ubunturosany KDE docs developers around?02:46
vltAaaarg! Stop it! What is this?!? I clicked on a link in Konqueror and now a task I would translate as "HTTP cleanup program" runs in klipper for at least 3 minutes and a little jumping document icon next to my mouse pointer makes me wanna scream. What is this?02:46
enjoi1216yeah but still i know a girl thats gothic and she's a sweetheart02:46
arashvlt , you wanna remove the jumping icon XD ?02:46
[nrx] being gothic isn't just about what you look like and wear or the music you listen to, it's a way of life02:47
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vltarash: Yes, at least this. What does the box do right now?02:47
arashvlt: the box?02:47
vltarash: the system, kde, konqueror watever ...02:48
arashvlt: you want to know how to remove the jumping icon?02:48
Tunavlt: it is waiting for a process to indicate it is alive.02:48
Tunavlt: if that process died before, it won't signal that.02:49
vltAnd what is it? What is this "HTTP cleanup program"?02:49
arashvlt: I think the name of the program is quite descriptive :)02:50
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vltarash: It cleans up HTTP? ;)02:50
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arashvlt: I would wildly guess cookies and cache-data02:51
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flaccidhttp is already pretty clean iirc02:52
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devianceWhat port does IRC use?02:52
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flacciddepends on server. usually 667 - 700002:53
flaccid667 sorry as per SlimeyPete02:53
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devianceIs there any point forwarding that point02:53
Tunadeviance: depends on what you want to achieve. I'd say: maybe?02:54
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vltdeviance: from where to where?02:54
flaccidonly if you run an ircd02:54
devianceAh okay02:54
devianceJust thought it might reduce lag02:54
arashisn't port forwarding only for running servers? I'm not experienced with this at all though ;)02:54
ubunturosany KDE docs maintainer around?02:55
flaccidnah when you connect to irc as a client its outgoing not incoming02:55
devianceAh okay02:55
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arashubunturos, you want a document manager (office program?)02:55
flaccidubunturos, not really the chan for them02:55
ubunturosarash: no,02:55
devianceWhy did kubuntu come with no man pages?02:55
Tunaubunturos: I think #kde-docs is the place to search, but it seems deserted atm.02:56
ubunturosflaccid: umm, was guessing02:56
flacciddeviance, because thats what the ubuntu doc team decided02:56
ubunturosTuna: nobody seems to be active there02:56
Tunaubunturos: Yeah, I've seen that.02:56
TunaIt's been like that some days now.02:56
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TunaPerhaps because nixternal's internet is down?02:56
ubunturosTuna: thanks, looks like there's activity there :)02:56
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ubunturosTuna: nixternal's internet is up again, he had emailed a post to kde-docs02:58
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Tunaubunturos: Can't see any activity there...03:01
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zipperOkay guys listen up. I need your help to test load on a new server. Need 5 (or more) people at pass: pickup      - Thanks03:11
flaccidzipper, this is not a testing channel03:11
khaije1quiet this morning...03:12
soonHi folks - Kubuntu 7.04. Apparently no sound when recording from my microphone - any suggestions what to look at? I've checked the Kmixer settings - turning on Mic Boost gives me audible noice, but still no sound from the mic03:12
soon(sound play back works fine with system .wav files)03:13
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ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP303:15
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flaccidsoon, see if the above helps and also check alsamixer from konsole to see if kmix missed any channels for input03:16
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=== xp_killer tinks he god king kong in his bed room :/
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=== xp_killer king kong ki kik ki ki kong :D
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xp_killerflaccid: i'm a little board what can i do on linux to amuse my self? :/03:23
gN__Hydrai need help03:23
gN__Hydrai want to restart my network03:24
ubunturos!ask | gN__Hydra03:24
ubotugN__Hydra: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)03:24
gN__Hydrabecouse i do something and i blow up the wifi =/03:24
xp_killeru blow the wifi?03:24
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gN__Hydrasorry my english , not blow up, but the config is not working...03:25
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gN__Hydrabecouse i put the wlan, in mode, "dynamic" in the settings03:26
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gN__Hydrabut now, doesn't work the wifi  =(03:26
gN__Hydrai need to restart03:26
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gN__Hydrasome help =/03:26
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BluesKaj!wireless | gN__Hydra03:27
ubotugN__Hydra: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:27
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franzanybody knows of a great guide in setting up an smtp server? :-)03:27
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franz!find smtp03:28
ubotuFound: clamsmtp, esmtp, esmtp-run, hotsmtp, libesmtp-dev (and 18 others)03:28
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gN__Hydrado you have some url in spanish?03:29
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BluesKaj!es | gN__Hydra03:30
ubotugN__Hydra: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.03:30
gN__Hydrayes i know dude03:30
gN__Hydraim in kubuntu-es rigth now but, everybody is SLEEP!03:30
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Super_Cat_Froghi - is it possible to stop kubuntu from grabbing usb devices? i need to access my tomtom inside vmware03:31
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gN__Hydravido aca?03:34
Super_Cat_Froganybody know which process detects usb devices, so i can just kill it?03:34
gN__Hydraok im going out03:34
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franzanybody knows of a great guide in setting up an smtp server? :-)03:36
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Super_Cat_Frogfranz: there's one on howtoforge03:36
Super_Cat_Frogfor postfix, i think03:37
franzSuper_Cat_Frog, thanks, i'll take a look :-)03:37
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BluesKajSuper_Cat_Frog, dbus ?03:37
Super_Cat_FrogBluesKaj: i realised it was hald, so ive killed it and theyre not being grabbed any more, but vmware still isn't detecting them03:38
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BluesKajvmware , yeah ...it's a bit more trouble, but i just dual boot ,I just boot into windows if i need to do something there, which is very seldom these days03:40
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SkyriderSalut quelq'un parle franais et pourrez m'aidez s'il vous plait ?03:40
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BluesKaj!fr | Skyrider03:40
ubotuSkyrider: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.03:40
khaije1Super_Cat_Frog: i'd recommend restarting hald (or just the whole system) and using pumount on the devices while double-checking the vmware settings03:40
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Super_Cat_Frogkhaije1: i forgot to add a usb controller to the vm03:42
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vltHello. I want to rotate my screen 90 (c)cw. What option do I need for xrandr? "--orientation"? And what value?03:42
khaije1Super_Cat_Frog: these things always seem simple in retrospect :-)03:42
vlt`xrandr` returns "Current rotation - normal" and "Rotations possible - normal"03:44
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vltaaah, "normal" doesn't mean "yes" here but "normal, and only normal" (which also could be "no") ... ok03:45
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khaije1later all!03:47
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jeffmHi, all.03:53
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jeffmI'm on a laptop with 1920x1200 resolution and I just installed the latest NVidia drivers.  When I did so, however, the fonts used by KDE got quote a bit larger.03:53
jeffmKDE still thinks they're 9 point, but they appear larger on screen.  Anyone know how I can tell X what DPI to use for my monitor?  THe setting in KDE appears to have no effect.03:54
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bodigempalada yang dari indonesia?03:56
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[nrx] try /quit03:57
[nrx] :)03:57
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naknomikAre the desktop effects that are available on Ubuntu, available on Kubuntu?04:07
flaccidwhich desktop effects are you referring to04:08
naknomikflaccid: beryl, compiz?04:09
SlimeyPetecompiz/beryl do work, but kwin sometimes conflicts with them04:09
runleveltenWeird... installing libapache2-mod-php5 doesn't provide me with a php5.load... that's not right is it?04:09
flaccidwhich version of ubuntu are you on04:09
SlimeyPeteI have no window borders, personally (which doesn't bother me)04:09
naknomikSlimeyPete: I'm on Feisty.04:09
flaccid!find php5.load04:09
naknomikflaccid: I'm on feisty04:09
ubotuFile php5.load found in libapache2-mod-php504:09
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flaccid!info beryl04:09
ubotuberyl: Compositing window manager, decorator and theme support - Beryl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.1.dfsg+git20070318-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 2 kB, installed size 44 kB04:09
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psicobrahi does any one know how i would burn a floppy image to floppy04:10
naknomikI have beryl-kubuntu installed. The problem is aquamarine keeps dieing04:10
flaccidjust like SlimeyPete said04:10
flaccid!info compiz-fusion04:10
ubotuPackage compiz-fusion does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas04:10
flaccidcompiz-fusion in gutsy04:10
runleveltencompiz-fusion is very nice :)04:10
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naknomikCan I upgrade to gutsy from feisty?04:11
psicobrai have a floppy img file how do i get it onto a floppy? any one know?04:11
flaccidits still in beta04:11
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flaccidits native in gutsy04:11
runleveltenIt's not in there. :\04:12
naknomikflaccid: no problem. I'm just trying out KDE, my work desktop is still Ubuntu.04:12
flaccidberyl works will if you don't have the conflict problem with kwin04:12
naknomikflaccid: I think the problem I'm seeing is different, aquamarine quits with some weird error.04:13
flaccidah ok04:13
runleveltenNo, it is in there, but it isn't being pulled out.04:13
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naknomikWhen I start beryl (from the Beryl Manager) as window manager, kwin goes away, and aquamarine fails to start.04:15
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flacciddo a beryl --replace from konsole04:15
naknomikIf I start aquamarine again on a command line, I see error: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169Failed to open device04:15
flaccidwhen fresh, then pastebin me the error04:16
flaccid!baddevice | naknomik04:16
ubotunaknomik: If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors04:16
flaccidyou can fix that with the above04:16
flaccidits not related04:16
naknomikbut I still don't have window decorations04:16
flaccidlets see the error out from starting beryl including when you select aquamarine04:17
naknomikI can move windoes with Alt-Left Button, they are wobbly etc., I have cubical desktop04:17
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naknomikHow do I capture those errors?04:17
flaccidlogin with kde and no beryl, then start beryl by beryl --replace from konsole then select aquamarine if its not by default then pastebin any output from konsole04:18
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flaccidwe will ignore any baddevice X errors which are due to wacom04:19
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ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:20
Zvezdichkois it safe to add several nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf04:20
ackbahrHi there! I've got problems upgrading to Feisty Fawn.... Could somebody help?04:20
Zvezdichkonameserver alabala, nameserver alabala1 and so on04:21
naknomikflaccid: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37537/ here's the complete output04:21
flaccidZvezdichko, do it on separate lines. nameserver x.x.x.x per line04:21
Zvezdichkookay, thanks04:22
flaccidso no error naknomik04:22
naknomikflaccid: so is this the kwin issue?04:23
psicobrahow do i check and repair a floppy disk04:23
flaccidnot sure naknomik , perhaps ask in #beryl ? im not sure where you would go from here to work it out04:23
flaccidnp Zvezdichko04:23
naknomikI'm just trying out KDE, never used it.04:24
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naknomikAmarok is excellent!04:24
naknomikI was also trying to get KDE 4 from backports, doesn't seem to work.04:25
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naknomikI followed instructions here: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php to add KDE 4 session and the session indeed starts, but I get a blank panel with two big blobs 'This object could not be loaded'. That's all!04:26
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mulanderhi all04:32
naknomikaahhhh I'll just get a gutsy iso and install.04:33
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mulanderquick question - I'm trying to run a DVD but when I try to open it in kaffeine it spits out errors about permission problems with dvd device, but when I browse to a .vob file on the same cd via konqueror and tell kaffeine to open it then it runs fine. Any ideas what setting am I missing?04:34
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BluesKajmulander, it is strange alright.I have to ask. Do you have libxine-extracodecs , libdvdcss2 & w32codecs installed ?04:45
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mulanderBluesKaj: yes all of them.04:45
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jalvesaqI'm trying to install kubuntu, but ubiquity hanged at 83% --- configuring hardware. Does anyonw know what to do?04:48
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mulanderBluesKaj: any ideas?04:50
dwidmannjalvesaq: fire up the live cd again, open the program konsole, time in ubiquity. You should be able to see exactly where it hangs and probably get an error message of some sort.04:50
jalvesaqThanks! I try that.04:51
dwidmannnaknomik: I have the same problem, let me know if you find anything out04:52
dwidmann(though, I'm running it in gutsy, so that won't fix the problem)04:52
jalvesaqI'm running gutsy 14 september build. amd64.04:53
mulanderhmm 1 out of 2 dvds did run properly right now.04:53
mulandercould it be that I'm missing some weird codec?04:53
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BluesKajmulander, I think dwidman gave me an idea..run kaffeine from the konsole and see what the errors are.04:54
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mulanderBluesKaj: already tried that, no interesting output04:55
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mulanderBluesKaj: only Failed to open device.04:55
BluesKajmulander, commercial releases ?04:56
mulanderBluesKaj: I played those dvds on arch linux, and gentoo linux04:56
dudeiclescould anyone tell me the ctrl+alt+del alternative for Kubuntu?04:56
BluesKajyeah, that message is std04:56
mulanderdudeicles: ctrl + alt + backspace for restarting X server.04:56
dudeicleshow about to force quit software?04:56
dwidmannctrl + esc to bring up the process list04:56
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dudeicleslol that one works fast04:57
mulanderBluesKaj: the weird part is that I have all the codecs installed, 1 dvd works, for the other kaffeine says that it can't read the source. But the .vob files can be run by kaffeine via konqueror.04:58
dwidmannctrl + alt + esc to xkill (cursor of doom included free of charge)04:58
dudeiclesbut I just wanted to kill 1 program that just wouldn't close. LOL04:58
dudeicleswhat is the cursor of doom?04:58
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dudeiclesah cursor of doom. nice05:00
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sander_somebody clue me on something here05:00
BluesKajmulander, the only thing i can think of is to reinstall kaffeine with adept05:00
sander_i've a problem that strikes me as more than a little bit odd05:00
mulanderBluesKaj: I don't think that could solve the problem.05:00
sander_i recently bought some hardware and everything aint as it's supposed to be05:00
dwidmannmulander: try running "kaffeine dvd:///dev/dvd" in konsole and see if it bears fruit05:01
sander_the box locks up, / has been remounted ro sporadically etc. et.c05:01
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flaccidevening Jucato05:01
sander_and now, whenever i try to start an application, it segfaults and dumps the core05:01
sander_blender, opera, mplayer, gxine05:01
sander_you name it, it just goes KADUNK!05:01
sander_however, this only happens to applications that aren't written specifically for KDE05:02
mulandersame error but much more output from the terminal05:02
Jucatothank you flaccid05:02
sander_basically, if the name of the application starts with a K, i'm all good05:02
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sander_any clues?05:02
mulanderlibdvdnav language en and pl not found, could it be the case?05:02
dwidmannsander_: this happens a lot? maybe you should run memtest?05:02
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sander_dwidmann: i have, and it turns up no errors05:03
dwidmannsander_: start them from konsole, see if you get any more info on the error05:03
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dwidmannmulander: might be05:04
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mulanderok guys, thanks for your help it was the fault of the cds not the system.05:07
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naknomikDoes KDE 4 work in Gutsy?05:08
ubuntui have emerald with compiz05:08
ubuntui want to install others effects05:08
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ubotuFor help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects05:09
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ubuntuwhich package can i install to have better efeccts05:09
naknomikubuntu: install beryl-kubuntu05:09
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Jucatonaknomik: please see the topic of the channel05:10
Jucato(last link)05:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about motd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:11
naknomikHow do I see the topic of the day?05:11
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Jucatonaknomik: er.. just look up? (if you're using konversation)05:12
naknomikI'm using kopete05:12
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Jucatooh.. type /topic I think05:12
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naknomikTopic for #kubuntu is Kubuntu Support Channel | FAQ: <----- that's all I got05:13
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waylandbill*** The channel topic is "Kubuntu Support Channel | FAQ: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuFeistyKnownProblems | Free Kubuntu CDs! https://shipit.kubuntu.org | Large pastes: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Offtopic in #kubuntu-offtopic please. | KDE 4.0 beta 2 -- http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php".05:21
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circassiadeutschsprachige da?05:33
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows05:33
Jucato!de | circassia05:33
ubotucircassia: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de05:33
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uttar1I have installed kubuntu through apt-get on my ubuntu desktop. How do I delete all data (packages) related to ubuntu (including configuration files) ?05:35
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Jucatouttar1: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde05:37
uttar1Jucato: Thanks05:37
Jucatoas for removing the config files (in /etc of course) as well, insert --purge after "apt-get remove"05:38
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mrksbrdwhat is the terminal command to pull up device list???05:43
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Jucato!away > esteve05:44
Jucatomrksbrd: lspci and/or lsusb?05:44
Jucatolshw is more detailed I think05:44
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mrksbrdna neither one of them do what i'm looking for05:45
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jhutchinsmrksbrd: What ARE you looking for?05:45
knowledge25khello can somebody help me out with this  redhat-cluster-suite05:46
mrksbrdwhat i need is to show like /dev/sbd1 ......... or /dev/scd005:46
jhutchinsmrksbrd: sudo fdisk -l?05:46
mrksbrdthats right ty J05:46
Jucatoheh.. "devices" huh? :)05:47
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n8k99knowledge25k: i'm not certain that is the right channel for that05:47
AzzcoWhy is the login sound so loud?05:47
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knowledge25kwhere should i go05:48
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stdinknowledge25k: try #RedHat05:50
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alan__How can i change my pendrives name?05:51
Jucato!caps | knowledge25k05:52
ubotuknowledge25k: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.05:52
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Jucatoknowledge25k: isn't it a redhat product? *redhat* cluster suite?05:52
stdinknowledge25k: and "hello can somebody help me out with this  redhat-cluster-suite" << redhat product, redhat channel05:52
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Stashmanthis isn't mschat?05:53
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stdinStashman: if it was you'd get popups ;)05:54
knowledge25ki'm try to istall looking glass on my computer i keep reciving that message05:54
flakeshould I use gdesklets, superkaramba, or other.. what's the latest greatest desktop apps05:54
Jucatoflake: you're on KDE? it'd be best to use superkaramba05:55
flakeand running compiz will give them transparency, like no black square around the clock?05:55
Stashmanok, just installed ubuntu....and this is #kubunto .....05:55
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Jucatoflake: um.. current desklets are known not to work well with compiz afaik05:57
Jucatonot entirely sure05:57
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stdinwindowless windows don't work well with it, no05:57
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dudeiclesdoes anyone know how to make a gamepad work in xmame?/05:59
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dudeiclesmine used to work, now only the buttons work, not the d-pad05:59
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dudeiclesI have 2 controllers and both of them work in xmame, just the buttons. for some reason the d-pads dont' work on any of them.06:00
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devianceWhats the codec for .wma files if it exists?06:03
stdindeviance: w32codecs06:03
stdin!w32codecs | deviance06:03
ubotudeviance: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs06:03
devianceHmm, i have that installed but Bashee still doesnt let me play thoes filse06:04
devianceI am not sure about amarok.06:04
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stdindeviance: as long as they aren't DRM'd06:04
devianceNope, ripped from a CD06:04
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devianceThey shouldnt be DRM;d, how can I tell?06:05
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stdindeviance: they normally aren't unless you buy them06:06
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rediz_cant edit filesystem. terminal su enter passwrd still wont let me edit file06:08
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deviancestdin: What package allowes K3B to rip in mp3?06:08
devianceI'm gonna rerip the CD and see if that works.06:09
stdindeviance: libk3b2-mp306:09
rediz_devia nce. love your your work keep it up06:10
devianceHow do you know so mich :P06:10
devianceInstalled already, but k3B wont let me rip06:10
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stdindeviance: experience :p06:10
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deviancerediz_: What do you mean by that?06:10
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Zvezdichkoany hints how to remove kde4 completely06:11
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HayaBusai used live cd on emachin to test the system06:11
Zvezdichkomay I call you MUSES-C?06:11
rediz_must be another deviance sorry06:11
HayaBusai turned off the live cd but before process was finished i removed the CD06:11
stdinZvezdichko: just remove all the kde4* packages, kdebase-workspace and kdelibs506:11
devianceIt could be me, what do you mean :P06:12
carlosholas tengo problemas al instalar kxine uso kubuntu feisty06:12
HayaBusanow when i boot , it dosn't pass the system screen where it says F10 FOR BOOT AND F2 FOR SETUP06:12
rediz_games deviance06:12
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carloscomo estan06:12
devianceDamn, not me,Im not famouse yet06:12
HayaBusaWhat has gone wrong06:12
carloscomo estan06:12
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Zvezdichkooops... kde4* selects the normal KDE also06:12
stdin!es | carlos06:12
ubotucarlos: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.06:12
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stdinZvezdichko: use adept and search for kde406:13
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ninhobombahello... anyone knows how to lookup cd information from amarok on the internet?06:13
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rediz_cant log in as root to edit files any help please06:14
HayaBusacan live CD damage system biose ?06:14
stdin!root | rediz_06:14
uboturediz_: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo06:14
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ZvezdichkoHayaBusa: I don't believe so06:14
stdinHayaBusa: no, not at all06:14
HayaBusawhen i removed the live cd by accident , now i have no way booting anymore06:14
rediz_when itasks for pw just enter?06:15
HayaBusai didn't let it finish turning off06:15
Zvezdichkocheck your BIOS settings06:15
HayaBusai can not enter that either06:15
stdinrediz_: use sudo and use your password06:15
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rediz_i'm in thnkz06:16
HayaBusado you know how i can reset biose without removing  system info ( flushing ) to factory default ..06:16
naknomikHayaBusa: There should be a jumper on your mobo to reset bios06:17
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Zvezdichkoproceeding with ubuntu-desktop...06:18
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Zvezdichkoops wrong06:19
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eNtRoPiAhi guys!06:19
dudeiclesdoes anyone here know a channel I could go to for help setting up my controllers?06:19
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rediz_trying to install kfreeflight. when in dir use command ./configure, and get06:20
rediz_checking build system type... Invalid configuration `i686-pc-linux-oldld': machine `i686-pc-linux' not recognized06:20
rediz_configure: error: /bin/sh admin/config.sub i686-pc-linux-oldld failed06:20
rediz_is this an old game06:21
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dudeiclesis there a newer version of this game?06:21
stdinrediz_: try with --host=i486-linux-gnu --build=i486-linux-gnu06:22
as2000how do you get rid of that annoying squishy bouncy thing next to the mouse pointer?06:22
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rediz_tryed itan got. error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH06:23
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stdinrediz_: you need to install build-essential06:24
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rediz_where can iget?06:26
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SlimeyPeterediz_: adept/aptitude/apt-get (take your pick)06:26
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aanhai,does anyone know how 2 make kbuntu like mac OSX????06:27
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy06:27
rediz_wot/where is adept/aptitude/apt-get06:27
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)06:27
rediz_is it command line06:28
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stdinrediz_: adept is a GUI06:28
SlimeyPeterediz_: adept is GUI, others are CLI06:28
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SlimeyPeterediz_: they're the main way of installing software. Adept is available via the K menu.06:28
stdinrediz_: Kmenu > system > adept manager06:28
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rediz_Kmenu > system > adept manager is installed but cant see in menu/system06:30
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rediz_not in pref or admin06:31
stdinrediz_: are you on gnome ?06:31
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rediz_unbuntu. not shaw. i'm newbie06:32
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stdinrediz_: ubuntu is gnome, kubuntu is KDE06:33
revoI've a problem when kopete is running: Alt+Tab kicks me to KDE-Loginscreen06:33
rediz_how can i tell which 106:33
aanthx 4 the info06:33
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stdinrediz_: is the desktop brown?06:33
SlimeyPeterediz_: if you have a K in the bottom left corner then you're on KDE/kubuntu.Click the K, then go to the "system" submenu (NOT the system preferences application)06:34
SlimeyPeteadept is in there. Click on it.06:34
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stdinif it's brown it's gnome, if it's blue it's kde :p06:34
blkdghi, i would like to modify kubuntu so that my students can use it in our school's lab.  The problem is that I need their internet connection to go through our school's proxy server.  Where would I begin reading information about this?06:34
rediz_it was brown. no k in bottom left06:34
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rediz_all option at  top06:35
stdinrediz_: then it's Ubuntu Gnome06:35
blkdgalso, if i do edit the proxy.sh file if it exixts, can i make this change permenate?06:35
rediz_so i cant use with this system06:35
stdinrediz_: the Ubuntu channel is #ubuntu and see the synaptic guide here   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto06:35
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stdinblkdg: the proxy settings are in system settings > network settings06:36
stdinblkdg: under "proxy" as it happens :)06:36
aanby the way,wich is better,adept installer or synaptic????06:36
jhutchinsblkdg: You should probably begin with the Linux Systems Administrators' Guide, and the Network Administrator's Guide, then this may give you proxy specific information: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Firewall-HOWTO.html06:36
stdinaan: neither is "better"06:37
jhutchinssynaptic has unnecessary gui garbage.06:37
SlimeyPeteAdept is buggy IME06:37
blkdgthank you.  how can i make these changes during the remastering process so that subsequent isos' that i burn will use the proxy?06:37
stdinSlimeyPete: it's newer, it was made for kubuntu06:37
SlimeyPeteI personally prefer Synaptic, but at the end of the day they both achieve the same ends06:37
rediz_got synaptic. how do i open it06:38
SlimeyPetestdin: yeah, I realise that. I may well switch to Adept once it's matured a bit.06:38
SlimeyPeterediz_: click on it in the menu. But if you're using Gnome you're better off asking in #ubuntu.06:38
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rediz_thnks. ;)06:38
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jhutchinsblkdg: I'm not sure, remastering's a bit of an art.06:39
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aanI use adept but when i install a lot of packet,sometimes the instalaltion is unsuccesfull,so i want to try synaptic.06:40
blkdgi will be remastering because i would like to add jdk to the iso.06:40
aanWhat do you suggest???06:40
jhutchinsblkdg: This may help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization06:40
SlimeyPeteaan: try it and see06:40
SlimeyPeteif you prefer synaptic, stick with it :)06:40
jhutchinsaan: apt-get or aptitude06:41
logixoulHi. Is there a simple, foolproof way of making everything in a dir, including subdirs, have 777 permissions, forever?06:41
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blkdgthanks jhutchins06:41
stdinlogixoul: yes, but 777 is the number of the devil06:41
aanok then,i'll try to use synaptic.06:41
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logixoulstdin: heh06:41
jhutchinsstdin: No, 777 is the NEIGHBOR of the devil.06:41
jhutchinsstdin: Or is that 668?06:42
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jon_can someone help me with my wireless connection on my laptop? i have ndiswrapper and the driver but somethings not working06:42
stdinin linux it's 777, just because that's the least secure permission (well almost))06:42
stdinlogixoul: "sudo chmod -R 777 /path/to/dir"06:42
logixoulstdin: I know that, but later on some files turn out to get other permissions. For example files svn updates, or files I open&save from another user...06:43
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logixoulI'm on the verge of setting a "sudo chmod -R 777 /path/to/dir" cronjob for midnight :)06:44
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stdinlogixoul: ahh, we'll that's umask, that's set in /etc/profile but I don't think you can set it per-directory, just per user06:45
jon_is there a channel for atheros cards?06:45
ArtimusI just installed Rhythmbox in Kubuntu.  When I run it, I get a rhythmbox process and no GUI...  There's no errors reported to the standard output.06:45
stdinlogixoul: just set the guid bit and have all users be in that group06:45
logixoulstdin: well, the dir I wanted to set it to is /home/oneOfTheUsers so that suits me perfectly :) thanks06:45
logixoulstdin: so I should change the "umask 022" to "umask 777" there?06:46
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logixoulstdin: and then set the guid bit to /path/to/dir?06:47
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stdinlogixoul: no, 777 would translate to permissions of 00006:47
logixouloh. 000 then.06:47
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logixouldamn, I'd better google this umask thing out :)06:48
logixoulok, let's hope it worked :)06:48
stdinlogixoul: just set the directory to to be group writeable and set the gid bit, so all files created will be in the group of the parent dir06:49
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logixoulGID or GUID?06:49
logixoulI think you meant GID the first time, right?06:49
stdinlogixoul: I think it's actually called GUID, not sure now :p06:50
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stdinlogixoul: or SGID ;p06:50
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stdinlogixoul: it's "chmod g+s" anyway06:51
logixoul"Globally Unique Identifier" or "Group identifier" or "Silicon Graphics" :)06:51
logixoulah ok06:51
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jon_how come when i try to use gedit i get this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 17106:53
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tid-wavehello. even though I didn't set dhcp for any interface the dhcdbd daemon is messing up my network configuration. why ? and how can I disable dhcdbd?06:53
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pag!baddevice | jon_06:53
ubotujon_: If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors06:53
dhqi wanna play a movie and stream it on the network at the same time live how do i do this06:53
jhutchinsdhq: Read the docs for vlc.06:54
logixouldhq: simply open it in Kaffeine06:54
jon_pag it wont open gedit tho06:54
dhqlogixoul, kafine and then do what06:54
logixouldhq: fileopen url06:54
jalvesaqHi! I'm trying to install ubuntu gutsy on amd64. I followed the suggestion made here some minutes ago, rebooted, and restarted ubiquity in konsole. Ubiquity didn't output any message to konsole, but this time I noted that the installations hangs when there is a message about the installation of language support. And it seems that the problem is that apt-get doesn't run. The output of "LC_ALL=C apt-get -f install" is "E: Unable to write mmap - msync (006:55
jalvesaqSuccess)   E:  The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.". Does anyone knows a solution to this problem?06:55
dhqlogixoul, i wanna play a movie file and it should stream on the network06:55
pagjon_, does it give any other error msgs?06:55
logixouldhq: aha, and?06:55
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dhqlogixoul, well thats about it i wanna play videos which others can view whwn i play it at the exact position06:56
logixouldhq: rephrase that.06:56
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dhqlogixoul, see if i am watching a movie i want it to be viewed on other pcs06:57
jon_pag X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 171, major opcode: 150 minor opcode: 306:57
logixouljon_: will it open kwrite?06:57
rediz_thank nickrud, dl ing now :)06:58
pagjon_, other kind of errors... those BadDevice errors mean pretty much nothing06:58
jon_it finally opened gedit, about 3 or 5 minutes later06:59
jon_is there a way to make it not fail to open device ? it never did this before06:59
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jhutchinsjon_: Yes.  Read the article you were referred to.07:00
SlimeyPetejon_: might be worth checking /etc/X11/xorg.conf and removing all input devices which you know you never use07:00
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ubotuIf you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors07:02
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rediz_anyone know beat dj mixng software07:02
tid-waveHow can I disable a dbus service ? is there a GUI tool for that ?07:03
rediz_anyone know best beat dj mixng software please?07:04
rediz_anyone know best dj mixng software please?07:04
Alp`rediz_: fruity loops for windows ;)07:04
jon_what is synaptics touchpad07:04
NickPresta!patience | rediz_07:04
uboturediz_: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines07:04
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rediz_ok sorry. wasnt trying to be rude or impatience07:05
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blkdghi, i looked at the networking howto that i was told to look at, but i don't want to run a squid server. i just want my student's browsers to go through the schools proxy server.07:06
blkdgi hope that maid sence07:06
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_4strOblkdg:  did you look at  : K / system settings / mandatory proxy server ?07:08
fkmIs there a possibility to start a linux (the first time, i.e. livecd) without the need for a monitor?07:09
blkdgno. i will look now07:09
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fkmSome sort of livecd that boots the system and then opens a ssh server07:09
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fkmI got a computer which doesn't give me any picture. It will be a server anyway. So after the installation I won't use the AGP slot anyway07:10
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arashHi, I wonder, is there any reminder applications (that does something every 3 min, at specific times, etc)07:11
logixoularash: kalarm?07:11
_4strO!cron arash07:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cron arash - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:11
_4strO!cron | arash07:11
ubotuarash: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm07:11
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blkdg_4strO: i can't see what you are telling me to look for.07:12
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_4strOblkdg: oups : K / system settings / network configuration / mandatory proxy server07:13
arash_eh, i disconnected, you said anything meanwhile?07:13
bigleonGood morning.07:14
blkdg_4strO: do you mean from within the OS or a document that you are telling me to read?07:14
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blkdgi think you mean an OS07:14
blkdgin that case i'm in win xp right now.07:14
blkdgok, so if i do reboot and make the change in the mandatory proxy server area, how can i make that change stick after i remaster the image?07:15
_4strOblkdg: sorry i dont know about that07:15
_4strOblkdg: but i think you dont have anything to do, beacause the change will be write in a config file07:16
blkdgok, thanks i will try.07:17
blkdgthanks again.07:17
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pag!es | carlos07:18
ubotucarlos: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.07:18
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tid-wavewhere can I complain for the poor quality of NetworkManager?07:21
logixoultid-wave: in #opensuse07:21
tid-wavebtw why is this included in ubuntu ?07:21
tid-waveit's really crappy07:21
tid-waveI mean .. it really makes my network connection unusable07:22
logixoulno, it's convenient, and, in some cases, irreplacable07:22
logixoulthat you have problems with it is another matter07:22
rediz_anyone know how to start flightgear after it installed. i'm in the install dir but cant see the file run it07:22
tid-wavelogixoul: how can I just disable networkmanager ?07:23
logixoulrediz_: if you installed it the proper way (with apt), it should probably appear in KMenu.07:23
logixoultid-wave: no idea for Kubuntu. look in the network settings.07:23
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rediz_installed in ubuntu. im in instll dir but dont know how to start07:29
rediz_tryed shearchig for .exe07:29
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SlimeyPeterediz_: tried just typing "flightgear"?07:30
Shinobihow to register my account?07:30
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration07:30
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NickPrestarediz_, open up a Konsole and navigate to the directory (cd directory name). Then, post the output of 'ls -la' (sans quotes) in a pastebin.07:31
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ScorpKingto run flightgear type fgfs07:32
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gustavois there any reason why my nfs works with but dont with ???07:33
tom__any one can tell me where to get any more or better applications07:34
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rediz_says not found07:34
jussi01!adept | tom__07:34
ubotutom__: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto07:34
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NickPrestatom__, I'm not sure what you mean "better applications". There are many, many applications in the repository. Any specific application you want?07:34
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tom__no im just checking it out07:37
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NickPrestatom__, make sure you enabled universe and multiverse for even more applications07:38
NickPresta!universe | tom__07:38
ubotutom__: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu07:38
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darlokHow do I uninstall software that was installed by compiling the source?07:38
NickPrestadarlok, in the source directory, `make uninstall`07:39
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somiranhow can i install new style in amarok07:39
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darlokNickPresta: I don't have the source directory anymore.  I'm trying to install a new version and I only have the source for the new version, but want to remove the OLD version first.07:39
somiran[red] how to install new style in amarok[/red] 07:40
NickPrestasomiran, Settings > Configure Amarok > Appearance >07:40
somirani did that07:40
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NickPrestadarlok, hmm. I'm not sure then. Would it be fine to just install the new version in the same location as the old? It should overwrite...07:41
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NickPrestasomiran, and what seems to be the problem?07:41
somiranand also downloaded a new style but i did not see that in pop down menu07:41
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NickPrestasomiran, did you click on the "Install New Style" button to install the style?07:41
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somiranbut it did not change anything07:42
NickPrestasomiran, you have to close the "Configure" window and reopen it to have the new style in the drop-down menu. Once you reopen it, you can select it from the drop-down menu and then hit apply.07:43
superkiwiHey, in Ubuntu you have a application where you can select 'restricted drivers', but in kubuntu, I can't find anything similar. Are the drivers for my video card installed in the install or are only generic drivers installed?07:43
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kkathmansuperkiwi:  generic07:44
superkiwiow, so how do I install restricted drivers in Kubuntu?07:44
kkathmanbut if you installed it using ubuntu, its there07:44
NickPresta!info restricted-manager07:44
uboturestricted-manager: manage non-free hardware drivers. In component main, is optional. Version 0.20 (feisty), package size 32 kB, installed size 300 kB07:44
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NickPrestasuperkiwi, `sudo apt-get install restricted-manager`07:44
SlimeyPetesuperkiwi: you can manually install nvidia/fglrx drivers via adept, or you can install the restricted manager.07:44
kkathmanits just harder in kubunutu07:44
kkathmanyou have to enable the restricted repos, install the particular driver07:45
kkathmanubuntu does make that much easier07:45
kkathmanwhy kubuntu doesnt do that I don't know07:45
SlimeyPetekubuntu has a smaller development team.07:45
SlimeyPeteI guess they just haven't had time to implement it yet07:45
kkathmanSlimeyPete:  yeah that might be it07:46
superkiwihmm, how do I run the restricted manager application after it's downloaded?07:46
NickPrestasuperkiwi, `restricted-manager`07:47
superkiwiah, thanks07:47
kkathmanor just add "restricted" to all the appropriate sources in your sources.list, run sudo apt-get update and download your drivers07:47
kkathmanalternately, if you have nvidia, just go to their site, download the NVIDIA driver, and sh that file, choosing to compile the interface07:48
Doctor_Nickdoes anyone know the process for submitting a package to the universe repository07:48
superkiwiCool, it's downloaded and installed. THanks everyone, restart is needed.07:48
NickPresta!motu | Doctor_Nick07:49
ubotuDoctor_Nick: motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU07:49
kkathmanDoctor_Nick:  actually there was a big demo yesterday on using the launchpad utils to create and submit packages07:49
Doctor_Nickkkathman: was it archived or what :/07:50
NickPrestakkathman, where?07:50
kkathmanDoctor_Nick:  im not sure if it was or not - you might could go to #ubuntu-devel or #kubuntu-devel and ask  not sure07:50
kkathmanI just got the announcement in the mailist07:50
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NickPresta!es | Josue07:54
ubotuJosue: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.07:54
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MinnozzHi, I was gone from my computer this afternoon and at a certain time, I saw (at somebody else's pc) that I went offline @ MSN. Syslog says 'IRQ 17: nobody cared' at the exact same time I went offline. What's this?07:56
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bigleonprolly someone runninga  script07:56
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naknomikWhat packages do I need to pull to enable Compiz-fusion on Kubuntu (gutsy)?07:58
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about compizfusion - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:58
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects07:58
bigleontry a google theere nak07:58
naknomikbigleon: tried, nothing turns up07:59
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NickPresta!gutsy | naknomik07:59
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ubotunaknomik: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+107:59
NickPrestatry asking in #ubuntu+107:59
bigleonTry making google focus on ubuntu.com with prefences07:59
kkathmannaknomik: you have to add repos and install multiple things08:00
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kkathmannaknomik:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion08:00
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kkathmanfollow that exactly08:00
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Minnozzwhat does this mean? http://paster.dazjorz.com/?a=rawpaste&p=98608:01
naknomikkkathman: that's for feisty, I'm on gutsy08:02
kkathmanshould be the same08:02
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kkathmangutsy should have it as standard - the dev team voted just this week on that08:03
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gnomefreakkkathman: its been installed by default but only certain cards are enabled by default (mostly intel card iirc)08:04
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=== Topic for #kubuntu: Kubuntu Support Channel | FAQ: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuFeistyKnownProblems | Free Kubuntu CDs! https://shipit.kubuntu.org | Large pastes: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Offtopic in #kubuntu-offtopic please. | KDE 4.0 beta 2 -- http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php
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(martijn/#kubuntu) jussi01: hehe, i want the effects installed by xserver-xgl10:03
(stdin/#kubuntu) !baddevice | pillowpants10:03
(ubotu/#kubuntu) pillowpants: If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors10:03
(pillowpants/#kubuntu) i keep getting that when i open certain programs from the terminal10:03
(kyubiii/#kubuntu) im having this big problem, yesturday i was here ask about the flash plugin that was failing, they helped me and flash began to work correctly, but now the problem is back, every time I try to open a flash web page the browser crashes10:03
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zblach_hey all. quick question. kpanel is stuck locked. how can I manually unlock it?10:04
zblach_clicking 'unlock panel' does nothing10:04
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pillowpantskillall kpanel10:04
pillowpantsthen the command to restart it10:04
pillowpantswhich is... i forgot10:04
zblach_the lock is persistant10:05
astanhm. when is gutsy scheduled for release?10:05
emilsedghzblach_: kpanel? I dont know it, if you mean the Panel (kicker), then right click->Unlocl Panel10:05
zblach_astan: end of october10:05
astanzblach_: alright.10:05
zblach_emilsedgh: it's stuck locked. clicking unlock panel has no effect10:05
pillowpantskicker, yeah10:05
pillowpantsastan: i do believe gutsy is already out10:06
stdinpillowpants: no, it's not10:06
zblach_pillowpants: end of october10:06
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zblach_and there are no dcop controls to unlock it either10:06
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kyubiiiany1 flashplugin help??10:07
jon_it seems like i have to depmod -a and aticonfig --initial everytime i restart. why is that?10:08
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jon_how do i fix X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169?10:11
stdin!baddevice | jon_10:11
ubotujon_: If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors10:12
jon_stdin i went through this page earlier...i guess it didnt work for me10:12
stdinjon_: you have to restart X after you do that10:13
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jon_stdin whats the command for restarting x?10:13
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oemhi is ther a skype.deb for 7.10 64 bit?10:13
stdinjon_: logout and choose "Restart X server" from the menu10:14
stdinoem: 7.10 isn't even out yet, so no10:14
stdinoem: you'd have to use the feisty deb, if there's a 64bit one10:14
oemhm.. k thanks10:14
oemlol i have installed the skype-debian_1.4.0.99-1_i386.deb and its going10:15
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kyubiiianyone had a problem with the flash plugin that crashes the browser10:18
stdinit does it all the time10:18
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kyubiiino one??10:20
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emilsedghkyubiii: nspluginviewer crashes a lot of time, but it doesnt affect Konqueror for me...)10:21
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Biovoreemilsedgh: same effect here on dapper and feisty and gusty10:23
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reallyjoelcant seem to find where to option for switching desktops by pushing mouse cursor to the border is10:28
MetaMorfoziSreallyjoel > start kcontrol, and wait:)10:28
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reallyjoel=) Im looking through the KControl app, cant find it10:29
pillowpantsso gutsy comes out at the end of oct?10:29
jhutchinsreallyjoel: Right-click and configure the desktop - unless you're in compiz/bery/emerald/whatever.10:29
MetaMorfoziSreallyjoel > thats there somewhere...10:30
MetaMorfoziSbut easyer to find if10:30
MetaMorfoziSyou right click on a border of a winow10:30
MetaMorfoziSsettings or properties10:30
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MetaMorfoziSthen the 5th icon from top10:30
MetaMorfoziSmy kde isn't english, i dunno how that in the english kde.10:31
reallyjoelNow I got it, thanks10:31
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reallyjoelTried that setting for some days, never actually used it, have hotkeys, and accidentally used it a couple of times, so in the bin with that option! =)10:32
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Carlospphol necesito ayuda10:33
Carlosppno puedo entrar al ubuntu10:33
Carlosppme sale No se puede iniciar servidor x10:33
stdin!es | Carlospp10:33
ubotuCarlospp: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.10:33
Carlosppok muchas gracias10:33
zblach_wow. nothing I do to unlock kpanel works10:35
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emilsedghzblach_: you tried to run it again?10:36
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zblach_killed, edited kickerrc, reran it10:37
zblach_even pulled the kickerrc file from another macine10:37
zblach_no dice10:37
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jalvesaqHi! Some hours ago I've tryied to install Kubuntu 7.10 (amd64 iso from 14 sept). Now, I'm back to my currenty i386 Feisty.10:47
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waylandbilljalvesaq: sounds like it didn't work. :)10:48
jalvesaqThe installation stopped at "configuring hardware"10:48
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jalvesaqUbiquity title was "Installing language support", or something like that.10:49
jalvesaqtop indicated that ubiquity using CPU at 99%, and I guess that the problem might be related with the following dmesg line:10:50
jalvesaqPCI: Cannot allocate resource region 0 of device 0000:00:00.010:50
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jalvesaqWhen I did "sudo apt-get -f install", the output was:10:50
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jalvesaqReading package lists... Error!10:51
jalvesaqE: Unable to write mmap - msync (2 No such file or directory)10:51
jalvesaqE: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.10:51
emilsedgh!paste | jalvesaq10:51
ubotujalvesaq: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)10:51
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jalvesaqAny idea of what might be causing the problem? And how do I use pastebin?10:53
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CaBlGuYsup guys...  where do I find the program files to change the preferences to open a certain type of file?11:05
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jalvesaqIt's pretty easy to use pastebin! I pasted the text again + lspci at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37568/11:06
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CaBlGuYat all??11:08
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CaBlGuYtesting, testing, this thing on???11:08
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stdinCaBlGuY: in konqueror > settings > configure konqueror > file associations11:09
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tsdgeosCaBlGuY: kcmshell filetypes11:09
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CaBlGuYno no..  all I need to know if where the program files are kept..  that's all..11:09
CaBlGuYwhat folder..11:09
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stdinCaBlGuY: in ~/.kde/share/config11:10
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jalvesaqPerhaps it's better to ask my question at ubuntu-testing... I'll try there.11:15
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zblachhrm. if I were to replace kpanel, what would I use instead?11:19
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emilsedghzblach: you tried reinstalling kicker from adept?11:21
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zblacha reinstall through adept?11:21
superbennyhow stable is the KDE4 Beta release?11:21
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emilsedghsuperbenny: Beta 2?11:21
Carlosppestimados amigos no saben que puedo hacer ya que no puedo loggear me salen varias lineas con "-bash: /dev/null: permiso denegado"11:21
emilsedghsuperbenny: better than Beta1 :), is that enough?? :P11:22
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zblachshame gutsy comes with compiz and not kde411:22
superbennyha is it stable enough to run a regular computer. like will it cause a lot of issue?11:23
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CarlosppHELPP I have a problem I cant enter to  ubuntu, and when I log appears a message that says "-bash: /dev/null: acces denied"11:23
emilsedghzblach: Gutsy? KDE4? sorry, why gutsy should include kde4?11:23
zblachi mean, a shame that the release dates do not coincide11:23
stdin!es | Carlospp11:23
ubotuCarlospp: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.11:23
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zblachand a reinstall does nothing11:24
apetrescuIt will probably be backported to optional packages asap.11:24
emilsedghsuperbenny: no, it isnt good for regular usage, man, its Beta...11:24
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superbennyok thanks11:24
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jhutchinsemilsedgh: By which argument compiz should still be alpha and not default.11:29
jhutchinskde4 is more stable/complete than compiz/beryl.11:29
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emilsedghjhutchins: no, it isnt, kde4 IS unstable enough to be included in a distro11:29
tsdgeosi think he meant "not to be included"11:30
jhutchinskde4 is at least officially beta, compiz doesn't even know what it's project org is.11:31
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emilsedghtsdgeos: s/unstable/stable, sorry11:32
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stdinemilsedgh: in what universe is KDE4 to be considered stable?11:35
tazgodxhow do i install packages that are held back?11:36
Shadowcatstdin: debian experimental11:36
stdintazgodx: use dist-upgrade11:36
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tazgodxi tried that, they are still held back11:36
stdinShadowcat: it's not, and not just because it has no launcher  :p11:36
stdintazgodx: then try "sudo apt-get install <held-back-package>"11:37
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emilsedghstdin: well...personally I dont like that KDE comes into gutsy, people will YELL if it just crashes...and then lots of new 'KDE4 is ...' Comments everywhere11:39
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stdinemilsedgh: kde4 is inly in gutsy _if_ you install it, same as in feisty11:39
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jhutchinsstdin: kde4 vs compiz11:41
stdincompiz is needed to "keep up with the Jones's"11:41
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arashwill we ever see KDE4 for kubuntu :) ?11:43
jhutchinsJoneses, yeah, i see that, the point is that KDE4 is more stable than compiz.11:43
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stdinjhutchins: not by much, but yeah11:43
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stdinarash: yeah, probably by default in 8.1011:44
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arashstdin: man, that will take like 2 years :p11:44
stdinarash: like i said, that's when it will be installed by default. there will be packages before that11:45
arashstdin: heh :), seems neat.11:46
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tazgodxi have a few packages with unmet dependency issue