[12:17] <jrib> hi
[12:17] <BMT> hi
[12:17] <jrib> are you using GNOME?
[12:17] <BMT> yes
[12:18] <BMT> i used gconf-editor in  a terminal....
[12:18] <BMT> i went to apps/nautilus/desktop
[12:18] <BMT> was this correct ?
[12:19] <jrib> yes
[12:19] <jrib> and then "home_icon_visible" should be checked
[12:19] <BMT> i checked the values that i wanted
[12:19] <BMT> and home_icon_visible is chedked
[12:19] <BMT> checked
[12:19] <BMT> now what ?
[12:20] <jrib> do you have any icons on your desktop?
[12:20] <BMT> no
[12:20] <jrib> ok, is the gconf key /apps/nautilus/show_desktop checked?
[12:21] <jrib> oops
[12:21] <jrib> ok, is the gconf key /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop checked?
[12:21] <BMT> yes
[12:22] <jrib> hmm
[12:23] <jrib> do you have any items in your Desktop directory?
[12:23] <BMT> where is the desktop directory
[12:23] <jrib> ~/Desktop
[12:24] <BMT> yes i do
[12:24] <BMT> have a lot of stuff
[12:24] <jrib> but nothing shows up on your actual desktop, correct?
[12:25] <jrib> on your wallpaper
[12:25] <BMT> just the home directory icon doesn't show
[12:25] <jrib> ah
[12:25] <jrib> are you sure it is not behind another icon?
[12:25] <jrib> that sometimes happens
[12:26] <BMT> i just verified that
[12:26] <BMT> it is not hidden behind another icon
[12:26] <BMT> the crazy part is that it has always been there...i just noticied today not being there
[12:27] <jrib> ok, close gconf-editor
[12:28] <BMT> ok
[12:28] <BMT> closed
[12:28] <jrib> what does this now return: gconftool-2 -g /apps/nautilus/desktop/home_icon_visible
[12:29] <BMT> false
[12:30] <jrib> ok, do this: gconftool-2 -t bool -s /apps/nautilus/desktop/home_icon_visible true
[12:31] <BMT> there it goes
[12:31] <BMT> my icon came back
[12:32] <BMT> what did you do here with
[12:32] <jrib> k, great
[12:32] <BMT> that last statement
[12:32] <jrib> it's the same as putting a checkmark next to /apps/nautilus/desktop/home_icon_visible
[12:32] <jrib> don't know why gconf-editor didn't work
[12:32] <BMT> wow that is amazing to have that much control of the OS like that
[12:33] <BMT> i really need that because i am always looking at my home folder stuff...so having the icon really does help
[12:33] <BMT> now maybe you can help with my CD burning
[12:33] <jrib> I like my desktop to just be a nice picture with no icons, but to each his own
[12:34] <BMT> really
[12:34] <BMT>  ?
[12:34] <BMT> hmm...
[12:34] <BMT> so how would you get to your program and othere utilities
[12:34] <jrib> desktop is too hard to access imo, it's always covered with windows
[12:34] <BMT> this is true
[12:35] <BMT> you would have to minimize the windows to get to the icons
[12:35] <jrib> well to get to my home, I would go to Places -> Home in the menu or just use "home" in deskbar
[12:35] <BMT> deskbar ?
[12:35] <jrib> right click on your panel -> add to panel   deskbar
[12:36] <jrib> you could also just put a launcher for home as button next to your menu
[12:36] <BMT> this is great !
[12:37] <jrib> yeah, deskbar is very nice
[12:37] <jrib> and if you use it with Beagle or Tracker it's even nicer
[12:37] <BMT> man ! Beagle ?  Tracker ?  what is that ....lol
[12:38] <jrib> they index all your files
[12:38] <jrib> kind of like google desktop
[12:38] <jrib> !info beagle
[12:38] <ubotu> beagle: indexing and search tool for your personal data. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.16.3-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 883 kB, installed size 3892 kB
[12:39] <jrib> !info tracker
[12:39] <ubotu> tracker: metadata database, indexer and search tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.4-4 (feisty), package size 231 kB, installed size 1004 kB
[12:39] <BMT> i need to find that...sounds interesting
[12:39] <BMT> what is a software channel
[12:39] <jrib> hmm, what do you mean?
[12:39] <BMT> whenever i am trying to install something like a .deb file ...sometimes it tells me i have to go to a software channel
[12:40] <jrib> most stuff should be in the repositories, you shouldn't need to install too many .deb's, but I don't know what error that is.  Can you paste the exact error verbatim?
[12:40] <BMT> don't have it now...but can do that later....what are the repositories ?
[12:41] <jrib> uh oh, they are the best part of ubuntu!
[12:41] <BMT> i have heard the term before
[12:41] <jrib> BMT: when you install things from add/remove or synaptic (or some other APT frontend), it fetches the packages from the online repositories
[12:41] <BMT> i have used all .deb files to install any extra programs that didn't come witht he ubuntu initial install
[12:42] <jrib> do you know about using synaptic and add/remove?
[12:42] <BMT> i am looking at add/remove as we speak
[12:42] <BMT> what is synaptic
[12:42] <jrib> system -> administration -> synaptic
[12:43] <jrib> it's a little less new-user-friendly (read: more powerful) than add/remove
[12:43] <BMT> this is true
[12:43] <BMT> lol
[12:43] <BMT> but do add/remove and synaptic go hand and hand
[12:44] <BMT> what i can install using synaptic i can install using add/remove ?
[12:44] <jrib> yep, they use the same packages, they just present them to you in a different manner
[12:44] <jrib> if you want to keep a healthy ubuntu system, always try to get your software from the repositories.
[12:44] <BMT> ok
[12:45] <BMT> have ever found a mix online that you liked and wanted to burn to CD ?
[12:45] <jrib> nope, I don't really burn any music to CDs
[12:45] <BMT> oh ok....
[12:46] <BMT> i am having a time find a app that will cut up a mix into separate tracks when burning
[12:46] <BMT> nero 4 did not for me using Windows
[12:46] <BMT> but i am trying to completely move away from Windows
[12:46] <jrib> see if anyone in #ubuntu has a suggestion
[12:47] <BMT> i have tried that ...and all i got was to use audacity to cut up the mix myself and then burn
[12:48] <BMT> that will take too long i feel
[12:49] <BMT> i tried to us add/remove to install kb3..it told me that i could not install it because it conflicted with something already install....add/remove suggested i use synaptic to solve this program
[12:50] <BMT> how would i go about doing that
[12:50] <jrib> close add/remove and then open up system -> administration -> synaptic
[12:50] <BMT> i did that
[12:50] <jrib> now what happens when you try to install k3b?
[12:50] <BMT> but i don't see how synaptic will resolve my issue
[12:51] <BMT> how do i get to k3b on synaptic
[12:51] <BMT> i am looking at "multimedia' now and don't see k3b
[12:51] <BMT> is there a search on synaptic ?
[12:51] <jrib> there's a search field somewhere
[12:51] <BMT> i found it...
[12:52] <BMT> synaptic says that it installing k3b conflicts withe libflac++5 with i just installed this morning for audacity
[12:53] <BMT> i am going to do it anyway to see what happens
[12:53] <BMT> maybe it will install k3b and audacity will still work
[12:56] <BMT> i need to find the MAD mp3 decoding library as well as the k3b MAD mp3 decoder plugin
[12:57] <BMT> can i find these things in add/remove ?
[12:57] <jrib> probably
[12:57] <BMT> not in add/remove going to try synaptic
[10:41] <jrib> too much traffic sometimes
[10:41] <Atrocity2001> jrib: Thanks.
[10:41] <jrib> alright, plug in the usb key now while you are logged in as the problem user
[10:41] <Atrocity2001> It's actually a FireWire drive.
[10:41] <jrib> k
[10:42] <Atrocity2001> Let me unmount, then swap over...
[10:42] <jrib> k
[10:43] <Atrocity2001> Even unmounting is weird...it shows twice and I can only unmount one of them...OK, switching user now...
[10:46] <Atrocity2001> OK...unplugged, powered off the drive, plugged it back in and powered it on...now "jeff" can see it and, it appears, write to it.  I hope it persists!  I'd swear I tried this before...THANK YOU!
[10:46] <Atrocity2001> In fact, I'm going to log "jeff" off and log back on to see what happens.
[10:47] <jrib> k
[10:48] <Atrocity2001> Seems to still work, thanks so much!  Now on to getting Azureus to work under 7.04 and figuring out why Rhythmbox keeps locking up. :)
[10:49] <jrib> heh, I didn't do anything, but glad it's working :)
[10:50] <Atrocity2001> Still, I appreciate the time...thinking back, I'm sure I killed the power to the drive before but never physically disconnected the FireWire cable...not sure why I should have to, but whatever it takes.  Thanks again!