| coreymon77 | guys | 12:57 |
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| coreymon77 | there is a mistake in the kubuntu faq | 12:57 |
| gnomefreak | fix it? | 12:57 |
| gnomefreak | on the wiki? | 12:57 |
| coreymon77 | no | 12:57 |
| coreymon77 | on the faq page | 12:57 |
| coreymon77 | i cant fix it | 12:57 |
| coreymon77 | kubuntu.org/faq.php | 12:58 |
| coreymon77 | there is a mistake on there | 12:58 |
| coreymon77 | and i cant fix it | 12:58 |
| coreymon77 | Riddell: you there | 12:59 |
| coreymon77 | ? | 12:59 |
| coreymon77 | nixternal: hello? | 12:59 |
| coreymon77 | stdin: yo | 01:00 |
| stdin | I can't fix it, no access | 01:00 |
| coreymon77 | who can? | 01:00 |
| Riddell | coreymon77: patches welcome | 01:01 |
| Riddell | I can apply | 01:01 |
| coreymon77 | ??? | 01:01 |
| coreymon77 | what do you mean? | 01:01 |
| Riddell | coreymon77: if you make me a patch I'm happy to apply | 01:01 |
| Riddell | you can also just tell me what the problem is but patches are easier on my side and I'm on holiday :) | 01:01 |
| coreymon77 | you mean, if i take the html code, correct the mistake then send you the corrected thing? | 01:02 |
| coreymon77 | Riddell: is that what you mena? | 01:02 |
| coreymon77 | mean* | 01:02 |
| Riddell | coreymon77: send me a diff -u against the original | 01:03 |
| coreymon77 | im on a mac | 01:03 |
| Riddell | you can do bzr branch http://kubuntu.org if you want to get really fancy | 01:03 |
| coreymon77 | will that work? | 01:03 |
| Riddell | macs must have diff | 01:03 |
| coreymon77 | its nothing special | 01:03 |
| coreymon77 | a word is just missing from one of the answers which changes the meaning quite drastically | 01:04 |
| stdin | what's the mistake anyway? | 01:04 |
| Riddell | so just tell us what the issue is | 01:05 |
| coreymon77 | under the can i sell kubuntu answer | 01:05 |
| coreymon77 | it says you must provide the source code at cost | 01:05 |
| coreymon77 | it should say at no cost | 01:05 |
| coreymon77 | Riddell: you should probably also add the url for feisty source cds to that same answer | 01:06 |
| coreymon77 | it only lists dapper and edgy atm | 01:07 |
| Riddell | that's not a mistake, it should say "at cost" | 01:07 |
| coreymon77 | why | 01:07 |
| coreymon77 | dont you have to provide it free? | 01:07 |
| coreymon77 | at cost means you have to pay doesnt it? | 01:08 |
| Riddell | to stop people abusing the system, see GPL 2 3b | 01:08 |
| Riddell | yes | 01:08 |
| coreymon77 | dont you have to provide the source for free | 01:08 |
| coreymon77 | ? | 01:08 |
| Riddell | no | 01:08 |
| coreymon77 | isnt that the whole point of the gpl? | 01:08 |
| Riddell | no point in bankrupting the distributors | 01:09 |
| Riddell | you can't make a profit from it under 3b | 01:09 |
| coreymon77 | oh | 01:09 |
| coreymon77 | anyways | 01:09 |
| coreymon77 | you should also add the link to feistu source cds to that answer | 01:09 |
| coreymon77 | it only lists dapper and edgy links at the moment | 01:10 |
| Riddell | fixed | 01:10 |
| coreymon77 | it is? | 01:11 |
| coreymon77 | i dont see it | 01:11 |
| coreymon77 | it still only shows dapper and edgy | 01:11 |
| stdin | coreymon77: "at cost" means "at the cost of sending the source" ie: through the mail | 01:11 |
| coreymon77 | stdin: oh | 01:11 |
| Riddell | hmm, guess it's behind a proxy, it should update soon | 01:13 |
| Riddell | mhb: I'm getting kdebase failing to compile, did you get that when testing your patch? | 01:46 |
| Riddell | it doesn't seem to be related to your patch | 01:46 |
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| coreymon77 | Riddell: how long does that stuff take to update? | 02:21 |
| coreymon77 | Riddell: it still hasnt changed | 02:21 |
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| Riddell | coreymon77: it's changed for me | 02:23 |
| coreymon77 | Riddell: i dont see anything, under the can i sell it question, it still only lists dapper an edgy links | 02:24 |
| nixternal | all you need to do is make sure the file you are trying to read with an fstream >> is in the correct directory :) | 02:25 |
| nixternal | clear your cache and then look | 02:26 |
| nixternal | it looks good to me :) | 02:27 |
| nixternal | what is the status of the new site btw? I am available to lend a hand like I said before..but haven't heard much about it | 02:27 |
| Riddell | no change that I know of | 02:28 |
| Riddell | mhb or kwwii might know more | 02:28 |
| nixternal | roger that | 02:33 |
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| Riddell | it's not a bzr thing | 02:35 |
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| ryanakca | thanks mhb, gnomefreak, coreymon77 :) | 03:09 |
| ryanakca | hehe, lucky me, software freedom day on my birthday :D | 03:09 |
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| mhb | Riddell: yes | 10:38 |
| mhb | Riddell: but in a totally different place | 10:38 |
| mhb | Riddell: AFAIK, there was a function completely defined in a .h file which kind of messed things up | 10:38 |
| mhb | Riddell: moving it to the .cpp file fixed the problem for me | 10:39 |
| mhb | Riddell: not sure if that is what you are getting | 10:39 |
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| ryanakca | mhb: ping, the czech keyboard, how do you guys do the accents? altgr-something letter? | 04:31 |
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| ryanakca | (currently... there is no french keyboard remotely simillar to the english one | 04:31 |
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| mhb | ryanakca: we have the accents instead of the numbers | 04:40 |
| mhb | ryanakca: accented characters, that is | 04:40 |
| mhb | ryanakca: when you shift+number, you get the number | 04:40 |
| ryanakca | Ah, nevermind then :) | 04:40 |
| === ryanakca guesses you have more accents/thingymabobies than we do in french... acute,grave,trema,cedille,circonflex/caret, ? | ||
| mhb | ryanakca: we have just two | 04:42 |
| ryanakca | really? | 04:42 |
| ryanakca | wow | 04:42 |
| mhb | and | 04:42 |
| ryanakca | hmm... last one didn't draw... I guess it's the trema/two points above the O? or is in an inverted caret? *goes to look for czech text on some labels* | 04:44 |
| mhb | ryanakca: the first one is like this: and the other one like this: | 04:44 |
| === ryanakca nods | ||
| mhb | what do you need that for? | 04:45 |
| === ryanakca has some french assignments (well, french school :) )... and I'm trying to get accents working in the dvorak layout... wondering how various languages setup their keyboards for accents/embelishments/etc. | ||
| mhb | ah, right. | 04:47 |
| ryanakca | Oh, I see it now (irssi didn't display the last one in a VT)... cool :) | 04:49 |
| marseillai | a question please : in kde4 package wich on contain dolphin? i would like to apply a patch tab to it | 04:50 |
| mhb | marseillai: isn't it in kdebase? | 04:51 |
| marseillai | mhb: perhaps i'm downloading it | 04:51 |
| marseillai | but i was looking for a confirmation | 04:51 |
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| marseillai | .... i'll have to build all kdebase :( | 04:51 |
| ryanakca | kde4base | 04:51 |
| ryanakca | first one on http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=kde4base&version=gutsy&arch=i386 | 04:52 |
| marseillai | thanks ryanakca | 04:52 |
| marseillai | :( | 04:52 |
| ryanakca | marseillai: upload it to your PPA :) takes half the time to build it there compared to here, even with the wait for it to get built | 04:52 |
| marseillai | mmmmmmm good idea | 04:53 |
| Hobbsee | but do check that teh patches, etc, apply frist | 04:53 |
| marseillai | ryanakca: could you tell me how to use ppa? i've heard about it but during the last four month i was a little afk (girl friend living with me) | 04:54 |
| marseillai | Hobbsee: of course! :) | 04:54 |
| ryanakca | Umm... part of the launchpad beta testers team? | 04:55 |
| Hobbsee | i didnt think you had to be part of the beta team now | 04:55 |
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| ryanakca | Hobbsee: wee :) | 04:55 |
| ryanakca | marseillai: ok, go to your launchpad page, on the left under karma/edit homepage/etc, theres something about ppa (bottom of the collumn) | 04:56 |
| marseillai | see it will read | 04:56 |
| marseillai | yeah we still need to be launchpad-beta-tester | 05:02 |
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| Riddell | mhb: I tried your konsole patch but didn't see much difference when using gdebi | 05:10 |
| Riddell | mhb: I'll upload it but not close the bug until someone confirms it helps | 05:11 |
| Riddell | mhb: and of course it needs to be backported to feisty for the upgrader | 05:11 |
| ryanakca | Hobbsee: hmm. doesn't kubuntu members have a ppa? and would marseillai be able to use it? | 05:11 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: we have a ppa | 05:11 |
| === ryanakca nods | ||
| Riddell | I suspect only launchpad beta users can use it | 05:11 |
| Riddell | although he should be able to become a beta user easily enough | 05:11 |
| Hobbsee | ryanakca: i would think so - worht trying | 05:12 |
| marseillai | Riddell: i'm building a kde4 dolphin with tab support | 05:12 |
| Riddell | tab? | 05:12 |
| marseillai | yes | 05:12 |
| marseillai | for navigation | 05:13 |
| Riddell | a diretory view for each tab? | 05:13 |
| marseillai | yes | 05:13 |
| Riddell | hmm, send us a screenshot when you have it :) | 05:13 |
| marseillai | if no tab is open there is no difference beetween this one and normal dolphin | 05:13 |
| ryanakca | Hmm... anybody feel like testing a possible X.Org+KDE bug? | 05:13 |
| marseillai | when two tab are open there is only a "close tab" button | 05:14 |
| ryanakca | add 'intl' to XkbVariants under the keyboard section in xorg.conf, restart X, and try going ctrl-alt-F[1-7] ? | 05:14 |
| ryanakca | Also, KMenu doesn't go down/hide after you open it & pick a menu item | 05:15 |
| ryanakca | s/XkbVariants/XkbVariant | 05:16 |
| marseillai | Riddell: http://kneuse.110mb.com/images/test.html | 05:19 |
| marseillai | it's an old version | 05:19 |
| marseillai | now when only one tab is open when don't see anything | 05:20 |
| Riddell | marseillai: how do you add a tab? | 05:20 |
| Riddell | marseillai: is this in trunk? | 05:20 |
| marseillai | kde4base will take time for me | 05:20 |
| marseillai | no not in trunk | 05:20 |
| marseillai | and there is a open/close tab button | 05:21 |
| mhb | Riddell: you mean gdebi is still crashing for you | 05:44 |
| mhb | ? | 05:44 |
| mhb | with the qgvector.cpp error? | 05:44 |
| Riddell | mhb: no, but it's using the same amount of memory | 05:54 |
| Riddell | mhb: but I'm not at home now, I can't test it properly | 05:54 |
| mhb | Riddell: is it using an insane amount? | 05:56 |
| mhb | Riddell: that may be a separate bug - what I tried is to make it work without the "qgvector.cpp" error, which it does on my old machine... | 05:56 |
| Riddell | no, not an insane amount | 05:57 |
| Riddell | I'll test it more when I've got time (which might not be for a few days) | 05:57 |
| Riddell | I've uploaded for now | 05:57 |
| mhb | Riddell: keep in mind that my diff is not a proper patch, just a difference between 3.5.5 and 3.5.7 ... there must have been a reason why the code changed, and I hope we have not reopened another konsole bug | 05:59 |
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| vprints | mhb, does kde's restricted manager use translation strings from restricted-manager package ? | 06:19 |
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| mhb | vprints: yes | 07:31 |
| mhb | vprints: but I am not sure if the translation file is in the GNOME or KDE translation pack | 07:31 |
| mhb | vprints: or in some common package | 07:31 |
| vprints | there seems to be only one package for it | 07:32 |
| vprints | but since there in no earch in LP, i can't be sure | 07:32 |
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| mhb | vprints: yes, there is only one translation template in LP | 07:35 |
| mhb | vprints: that is correct | 07:35 |
| vprints | good, thankyou | 07:35 |
| mhb | vprints: the problem is, if the .mo file will be shipped in language-pack-gnome | 07:35 |
| mhb | vprints: then KDE folks won't have the app translated unless they download the GNOME translations too | 07:35 |
| mhb | vprints: someone has to ask mvo (preferably via #ubuntu-devel) if he can fix that | 07:35 |
| mhb | vprints: could you perhaps do that? Ask him if he can move the .mo file into the language pack common to both KDE and GNOME? | 07:36 |
| mhb | thanks | 07:36 |
| vprints | mhb, sure, thanks | 07:36 |
| mhb | vprints: I would ask him myself, but my internet time will be limited next week | 07:36 |
| mhb | vprints: and it's Sunday today, so little chance of catching him | 07:37 |
| vprints | Noted that down, will do | 07:41 |
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| marseillai | Riddell: ? i have a debdiff of kde4base to add tab support to dolphin it's not finish yet (drag and drop feature between tad is missing) | 10:03 |
| marseillai | could i send it to you because i can't build kde4base on this computer! so perhaps you could send it to PPA ... | 10:04 |
| Riddell | marseillai: is there a reason why the code isn't in trunk yet? | 10:06 |
| mhb | Riddell: they don't want it there, haven't you seen the flamewars? | 10:06 |
| marseillai | Riddell: yes the dolphin's dev don't want this feature! they are saying tab is a power user feature and split view is not | 10:07 |
| mhb | marseillai: well, I think you shouldn't try to bypass the original developers | 10:07 |
| marseillai | mhb: in fact i would like to test this patch and to have a user point of view | 10:08 |
| marseillai | mhb: Riddell http://kneuse.110mb.com/images/test.html | 10:09 |
| Riddell | I suspect I agree with them | 10:12 |
| mhb | I think it's great to have a PPA package of Dolphin with tabs | 10:12 |
| mhb | so people who like tabs can have them | 10:13 |
| mhb | but we shouldn't really bypass upstream in this case | 10:13 |
| marseillai | i agree with mhb | 10:14 |
| marseillai | so anyway here is my debdiff : ftp://marseillai.homelinux.org/dolphintab.debdiff | 10:15 |
| mhb | marseillai: you can do the PPA by yourself | 10:18 |
| marseillai | mhb: done but i need to be launchpad beta tester | 10:18 |
| marseillai | and i've not been accept yet | 10:18 |
| Riddell | ask mrevell tomorrow | 10:18 |
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| Riddell | Breuil Cyril about? | 10:48 |
| Riddell | ah, it's marseillai :) | 10:49 |
| marseillai | :) | 10:49 |
| marseillai | yes | 10:49 |
| marseillai | it's me | 10:49 |
| marseillai | why that ? | 10:49 |
| Riddell | just saw your PPA reject notice | 10:49 |
| marseillai | why did you receive it ? | 10:50 |
| Riddell | I'm the Maintainer: I guess | 10:51 |
| marseillai | oki | 10:51 |
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