[12:37] <dmitrig01> any good VNC servers for kubuntu?
[12:37] <rrbiz> krdc
[12:37] <dmitrig01> hmm
[12:37] <dmitrig01> I thought that was a client...
[12:38] <rrbiz> krfb
[12:38] <dmitrig01> I want to broadcast my screen
[12:38] <rrbiz> krfb's what i always use and works pretty good
[12:39] <emilsedgh> dmitrig01: krfb, as rrbiz said :)
[12:39] <dmitrig01> ok, cool
[12:39] <Biovore> there is a remote desktop option in kde: alt-f2 'kcontrol'  Internet & Network | Desktop Sharing
[12:39] <Biovore> then use rdp to connect to your desktop from another computer (windows or linux)
[12:40] <dmitrig01> ok
[12:42] <waylandbill> rdp needs rdesktop installed. krfb and krdc use the vnc protocol.
[12:42] <Biovore> well krdc can connect to a rdp session
[12:43] <waylandbill> assuming you have a terminal server to connect to.
[12:44] <waylandbill> krfb and krdc are installed by default. one is the client and the other is the server. It's basically everything you'd need.
[12:44] <dmitrig01> which is which?
[12:45] <waylandbill> !info krfb
[12:45] <ubotu> krfb: Desktop Sharing for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu9 (feisty), package size 928 kB, installed size 1656 kB
[12:45] <waylandbill> !info krdc
[12:45] <ubotu> krdc: Remote Desktop Connection for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu9 (feisty), package size 503 kB, installed size 972 kB
[12:45] <waylandbill> rfb is the server
[12:45] <dmitrig01> ok
[12:46] <frank_> huhu
[12:46] <frank_> hallo jemand da?
[12:47] <frank_> hallo
[12:47] <NickPresta> frank_, which language?
[12:47] <frank_> germany
[12:47] <NickPresta> !de | frank_
[12:47] <ubotu> frank_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:48] <NickPresta> is that german? >_>
[12:48] <frank_> ja
[12:48] <frank_> weis net
[12:49] <frank_> hallo
[12:50] <arash> Hi, how do I simply create a folder in konquerer?
[12:50] <frank_> was??
[12:50] <frank_> hallo
[12:53] <arash> ah nm, just wan't root
[12:53] <frank_> was?
[12:53] <frank_> what?
[12:54] <arash> frank_ ; whats up?
[12:54] <frank_> i m german
[12:54] <arash> You want support in germany?
[12:55] <arash> German*
[12:55] <frank_> yes
[12:55] <woohoo`> Can anyone help me connect to my wireless network using Kubuntu?
[12:55] <woohoo`> Help appreciated
[12:55] <arash> !de | frank_
[12:55] <frank_> yes
[12:55] <NickPresta> woohoo`, what seems to be the problem?
[12:55] <woohoo`> Hi Nick
[12:55] <ubotu> frank_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:55] <arash> frank_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:55] <frank_> sudo pppoeconf
[12:56] <woohoo`> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty
[12:56] <woohoo`> I'm using this tutorial NickPresta
[12:56] <woohoo`> And basically it says I've got to enable Universal Repository
[12:56] <woohoo`> which I think and have tried to do
[12:56] <frank_> danke arash
[12:56] <arash> sehr schn! :) ( I hope that was right :P )
[12:57] <NickPresta> woohoo`, are you using ndiswrapper or the native drivers?
[12:57] <woohoo`> tried typing sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter   but it says the package cannot be found
[12:57] <woohoo`> I was told to go to the Native Drivers
[12:57] <arash> !find bcm43
[12:57] <ubotu> Found: bcm43xx-fwcutter
[12:58] <frank_> :-)
[12:58] <NickPresta> woohoo`, you should have something in your sources.list that looks like 'deb http://MIRROR/ubuntu/ feisty universe multiverse'
[12:58] <woohoo`> NickPresta: I was told to go to that and tried opening it before, but some of the devices failed t open
[12:59] <NickPresta> woohoo`, if you get a couple messages about a bad device, you can ignore those. You must do a `sudo apt-get update` after you update your sources.list. Did you do that?
[12:59] <frank_> im new in kubunto
[01:00] <woohoo`> I typed that but it says it failed to fetch
[01:00] <woohoo`> a number of sources
[01:00] <NickPresta> woohoo`, could you pastebin your sources.list (/etc/apt/sources.list) and the output of `sudo apt-get update`?
[01:00] <NickPresta> !pastebin | woohoo`
[01:00] <ubotu> woohoo`: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:01] <woohoo`> Ok, but I'm on a windows machine right now, with my laptop next to me with kubuntu on, which isn't connected to the internet
[01:01] <NickPresta> woohoo`, oh okay. See which repos fail to fetch and either comment them out or use a mirror (if it's the ubuntu repos).
[01:02] <Schuenemann> hey, I have two versions of a program installed: one compiled myself and the other installed via apt-get. The link points to a version, how can I access the other
[01:02] <woohoo`> I'm confused lol
[01:02] <woohoo`> comment them out?
[01:02] <woohoo`> use a mirror?
[01:02] <Schuenemann> the program is zsnes
[01:02] <adz21c> Hi, I seem to be having problems with dual monitor, I was wondering if someone could help me with it. I have posted a message on a forum http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=98447 and so far got no reply, just thought I would also try here see if anyone else has any ideas
[01:02] <rrbiz> Bus 003 Device 002: ID 03f0:1016  from this can i tell what ttyUSB0(x) i'm using ?
[01:02] <NickPresta> woohoo`, can I PM you?
[01:02] <woohoo`> Sure NickPresta
[01:03] <Schuenemann> how can I know where a program installed by apt-get is?
[01:04] <adz21c> Schuenemann: find the debs and check the files it installs
[01:05] <Schuenemann> adz21c, how to check?
[01:05] <adz21c> Schuenemann: i don't know how u do it with apt-get, has i am pretty in experienced with that, but if you use something like synaptic or aptitude it'll list the files for each package, or you can use apt:/ from konqueror
[01:07] <adz21c> Schuenemann: in synaptic you search for the package, right click it, properties, then select installed files
[01:08] <Schuenemann> hmm
[01:10] <Schuenemann> it says it installed /usr/bin/zsnes, but if I run it, it starts the other version
[01:10] <adz21c> do u install the deb package then install ur manual compile?
[01:10] <Schuenemann> first I compiled version 1.51, then installed 1.42 with apt-get
[01:11] <Schuenemann> maybe it didn't overwrite the 1.51 bin
[01:11] <adz21c> seems like it could be the case
[01:11] <troi_> Hey, I have an extern hdd that I would like to mount. I've mounted /dev/sdb1 to a directory, but when I try to access all the content has permissions rwx------, meaning only root can access the content. THe hdd is ntfs. Any help?
[01:11] <Schuenemann> adz21c, can I extract that bin from the .deb ?
[01:11] <adz21c> i would install the manual one to /usr/local/bin and manually call each
[01:11] <adz21c> yea
[01:12] <adz21c> debs are just kinda like tars
[01:12] <Schuenemann> oh wait
[01:12] <adz21c> download the deb and double click it then go to Data.tar.gz
[01:12] <Schuenemann> if I ran with konqueror GUI, it runs 1.42
[01:12] <Schuenemann> with konsole, 1.51
[01:12] <adz21c> what are you running btw?
[01:12] <Schuenemann> shouldn't bash look at current dir first, then links
[01:12] <Schuenemann> zsnes (snes emulator)
[01:12] <adz21c> :: shrugs ::
[01:13] <adz21c> i would think konsole stops at the first it finds in its enviroment variable for bin paths
[01:13] <Schuenemann> I thought it would look at the current dir first
[01:13] <c1|freaky> hi all. i have question. windows is currently installed on the 1st partition on my hdd, swap on the 2nd, and linux on the 3rd. I would like to completely remove windows from my HDD - can I do that without loosing settings etc.?
[01:13] <c1|freaky> +a
[01:14] <adz21c> c1|freaky: which settings are you talking about? user or sort of os global?
[01:15] <c1|freaky> i mean, i dont want to remove linux
[01:15] <c1|freaky> and reinstall it
[01:15] <c1|freaky> i want to merge windows and linux partition
[01:15] <c1|freaky> sorry
[01:15] <adz21c> c1|freaky: well you can remove the window partition, but to my knowledge you can't reshuffle partitions without loosing data, u can example then but not define a new start location
[01:16] <Schuenemann> adz21c, ok, I just created a link to the other version
[01:16] <c1|freaky> ok, thank you
[01:21] <gannam> anyone familiar with having kubuntu, xp, and vista on one HD? I want to have multiple boot options for my laptop, but I already have xp and vista on it....is vista going to give me boot issues?
[01:21] <adz21c> gannam: I got vista and kubuntu and so far i get into vista ok, never had vista and xp on at same time but i don't see it being an issue
[01:22] <gannam> adz21c: which OS did you have installed first?
[01:22] <adz21c> vista
[01:22] <adz21c> well no actually sorry
[01:23] <gannam> is your machine using vista's boot manager, or kubuntu's?
[01:23] <adz21c> i had kubuntu installed, then installed vista, which overwrote my grub, but i ended up resinstalling kubuntu cos my fs was a bit crap
[01:23] <adz21c> kubuntus
[01:24] <gannam> if I format the partition that kubuntu's on, do I have to repair vista's boot manager?   (just trying to avoid problems)
[01:25] <adz21c> probably can't say I have tried it. but if your then going to reinstall kubuntu then you will get grub back so its not a problem
[01:26] <adz21c> if you want to get rid of kubuntu permanently then yes you will need to format kubuntu and repair vista bootloader
[01:26] <gannam> thanks  :)   the last time I had linux on my system was an old fedora install with lilo as my boot manager....but I was using server 2000 then too  :P
[01:26] <adz21c> in their simplest they work pretty much same in that respect
[01:27] <adz21c> lilo and grub i mean
[01:27] <gannam> yup
[01:28] <gannam> now all I have to do is figure out how to fix my trackpad, audio, and wireless (when I get kubuntu loaded)
[01:28] <adz21c> :-) i am sure someone here might have some ideas for that
[01:28] <gannam> yup  :)    the audio and wireless are common issues, from what I've seen, with the aspire 5050 series
[01:29] <adz21c> yea, my audios been pretty stable for yrs now fortunately, but used to have no end of problems, never used wireless tho
[01:30] <sousl> Hello folks. Does anyone know how to setup SDL ? I am having trouble setting it up.
[01:30] <adz21c> sousl: u mean install it?
[01:30] <the_voice> yes
[01:30] <gannam> it's odd.....I tried an install on an old laptop HD that I have lying around, but switching it with my xp/vista drive is not practical...but for the live cd wireless worked, but not after I had it installed
[01:30] <adz21c> sudo apt-get install libSDL1.2 i think
[01:30] <the_voice> thank you
[01:31] <adz21c> gannam: oddness
[01:35] <adz21c> I seem to be having problems with dual monitor, I was wondering if someone could help me with it. I have posted a message on a forum http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=98447 and so far got no reply, just thought I would also try here see if anyone else has any ideas
[01:35] <bigleon> Good evening gang?   adz21c what kind of research have you done
[01:36] <navets> in linux i have less space and less words fit per line
[01:36] <bigleon> what do you mean navets?
[01:36] <navets> sorry i didnt finish
[01:36] <navets>  in linux i have less space and less words fit per line on my website then if i was using windows
[01:36] <adz21c> everything I know is detailed in the forum post, I am not the best at tracking down issues :-)
[01:36] <navets> any ideas why
[01:37] <bigleon> navets thats youre resolution
[01:37] <navets> bigleon: I use the same resolution for both
[01:37] <bigleon> adzz21c as far as dual moniters, It's done in X-config stuff. So I 'd check more resources
[01:37] <the_voice> Which is better to program a big server in C/C++ or Python?
[01:37] <bigleon> navets, how bout your fonts?
[01:38] <intelikey> about the 'bug' in the fuse-utils postinst script.   why does this line cause the script to exit ?  "ucf --debconf-ok /usr/share/fuse-utils/default $CONFFILE"
[01:38] <navets> I think it is the fonts\
[01:38] <navets> Im gonna go change them
[01:38] <bigleon> the_voice, i've noticed on alot of comps both are used... so i'd guess maybe both, i'm not sure XD
[01:38] <adz21c> bigleon: you got any examples cos I have not been able to find anyone else with the same sort of issue
[01:38] <the_voice> hehe
[01:38] <bigleon> adz21c whats the issue?
[01:38] <bigleon> the_voice to be honest i have done much with servers in a while
[01:39] <adz21c> bigleon: basically one of my monitors seems to render things slower when in twinview when not, yet the other is fine all the time. It could be a performance things but I would like to think not
[01:39] <the_voice> I am wanting to do a big mmorpg server but i want it secure, so im trying to decide if python or C/C++ is better for it
[01:39] <adz21c> the_voice: it depends on what your writing
[01:39] <bigleon> Adz it probbaly is a performace issue to be honest
[01:40] <bigleon> the_voice just curious what kind of Mmorpg?
[01:40] <the_voice> 2d/3d
[01:40] <bigleon> intresting, got a project website up?
[01:40] <adz21c> bigleon: but its quite random, as it renders fine for games (which i would say is pretty resource intensive) yet not for rendering a video
[01:41] <intelikey> ok let me rephrase that.  how can one bash script called from another bash script kill the first script ?
[01:41] <the_voice> I did have a forum running, but it got deleted recently. So I'm not bothered to make one yet
[01:41] <bigleon> adz21c oh thats same on my movies, it seems to be at a slower FPS, i'm not sure why that is, i'm sure it might have slightly dealing with montier it self perforamce
[01:41] <bigleon> the_voice well if your project goes live, find me :D
[01:41] <the_voice> What are you experience in?
[01:42] <bigleon> well i'e been a gm for Priv Wow, and know a bit of scripting behind it. but i'm more for learning.
[01:42] <intelikey> the bash script "/usr/bin/ucf" is borked in ubuntu dapper.
[01:42] <bigleon> I'm a student in college with way to much time on my hands haha
[01:42] <adz21c> bigleon: how come it doesn't happen on windows though? could it just be poor performance on xine/mplayers part then?
[01:42] <the_voice> oh nice, WoW is done all in Lua, right?
[01:43] <bigleon> It could be adz21c
[01:43] <bigleon> I'm not 100pct sure, all i know is i used strickly mangoes project, which caused me to do alot of writing, but i'm not exactly sure what "programing language" i was writing XD
[01:43] <anaya> alguien habla espanol
[01:43] <bigleon> !es | anaya
[01:43] <ubotu> anaya: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:44] <the_voice> Lua...most likely. Well it's our 2nd week in our developement stage, we just try to pick the languages to code with. Which is the hardest part in the project.
[01:45] <intelikey> how can a child script kill the parent script ???   this makes no sense to me.
[01:45] <bigleon> I would bet the_voice
[01:45] <the_voice> both Python and C/C++ is a big community
[01:45] <bigleon> Yeah you would get the best support there
[01:46] <anaya> gracias
[01:46] <the_voice> also the a good enviroment on linux for them all.
[01:46] <adz21c> intelikey: kinda makes sence to me? if the child script returns a bad error code you don't handle then the parent has no idea if it should proceed or not so dies as well. Thats just an assumption, I don't write bash often tho so my knowledge is poor
[01:47] <intelikey> adz21c the parent isn't checking for exit code.  the child is killing the parrent
[01:48] <the_voice> I am thinking of doing it from scratch, not using engine (the easy way out)
[01:48] <adz21c> intelikey: you mean the child script is not exiting on an error causing the parent to do same thing, somewhere in the child script it says kill my parent?
[01:48] <bigleon> the_voice thats alot of works.
[01:48] <the_voice> I am a college student myself :)
[01:48] <bigleon> What kind of server do you got to work with, and what university do you attentd
[01:49] <Myke> good evening
[01:49] <the_voice> Uconn, and I haven't yet started to server, but the plan is going to be UDP Multithreaded server.
[01:49] <intelikey> adz21c that's just it   /usr/bin/ucf   has no mention of kill in it  but   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39558
[01:50] <Myke> could anyone help me with an apache problem or is this complete wrong channel?
[01:50] <intelikey> i added the two echo lines to see if it was returning in the /var/lib/dpkg/info/fuser-utils.postinst   script   it echos 1  but not 2
[01:50] <bigleon> the_voice got an IM or something, i'd love to contribute, and hopefully learn and be able to better contribute better
[01:51] <adz21c> intelikey: works fine for me
[01:51] <intelikey> adz21c dapper ?
[01:51] <the_voice> Yes. I have an MSN, trinishotta61505@hotmail.com
[01:51] <adz21c> feisty
[01:52] <intelikey> adz21c i'll assume they fixed ucf over the next two releases
[01:52] <adz21c> maybe, pastebin your output
[01:52] <intelikey> output of what ?
[01:52] <intelikey> the postinst script ?
[01:52] <intelikey> dpkg ?
[01:53] <adz21c> whatever script your having issues with
[01:53] <adz21c> i put what your pastebin link has into a file and ran it and got this http://pastebin.com/d4cf36a36
[01:54] <bigleon> whats the progblem
[01:54] <Myke> apache anyone?
[01:54] <intelikey> well it's the ucf script that is the issue and there is no output   the postinst script is being called by dpkg "of course"  and is failing because it dies when it calls ucf
[01:54] <NickPresta> Myke, what about it?
[01:54] <NickPresta> Myke, PM me
[01:54] <Myke> got a prob with vhost
[01:54] <Myke> kk
[01:55] <adz21c> intelikey: you looked over ubuntu dapper package bugs, see if its known?
[01:55] <adz21c> i have no idea where you go for that but its somewhere out there i am sure
[01:55] <intelikey> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39559
[01:56] <Myke> NickPresta, got the Chat?
[01:56] <intelikey> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39560
[01:57] <intelikey> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39561
[01:58] <intelikey> and last but not least,  here's the ucf that is the fly in the ointment  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39562
[01:59] <intelikey> in the post install configuration script i added the  echo #   lines for debugging.
[01:59] <adz21c> yea
[02:00] <intelikey> set -x is messy
[02:01] <intelikey> i don't understand how ucf is killing the parrent script....   that's what has me up in arms
[02:01] <woohoo`> A thanks to NickPresta who helped me get connected to the wireless on Kubuntu
[02:01] <woohoo`> Much appreciated
[02:02] <intelikey> is that a genuine woohoo ?
[02:02] <billytwowilly> Hi, how do I figure out what is using a partition so I can un mount it?
[02:02] <intelikey> :)
[02:02] <ardchoille> !dual-boot
[02:02] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookProFeisty
[02:02] <woohoo`> Yeah it is
[02:02] <woohoo`> he pm'd me
[02:02] <Pleasant> it's woohoo` on the wireless!
[02:03] <Pleasant> Woo
[02:03] <adz21c> intelikey: essentially ... i don't know, i not a big bash person and I didn't know ucf existed before today so i doubt I would be any help, i was hoping i might spot something but nothings coming to me tbh
[02:03] <intelikey> billytwowilly fuse maybe
[02:03] <intelikey> adz21c well much appreciated effort.
[02:03] <Dr_willis> Fuse is handy :)
[02:04] <billytwowilly> how would I use it to find out?
[02:04] <billytwowilly> you mean fuser right? I tried reading the man page, but it seemed a bit confusing to me..
[02:04] <intelikey> errr fuser   heh\
[02:04] <intelikey> yeah.  i'm playing with fuse   but was talking about fuser
[02:05] <intelikey> fuser's man page is now called confuser
[02:05] <NickPresta> lol
[02:06] <billytwowilly> like fuser -k /mnt/md1/ should kill all the processes using that partition, but when I try to umount it I still get the error that the device is busy.
[02:06] <billytwowilly> same with fuser -km in the man page
[02:06] <intelikey> try it on the device node
[02:08] <billytwowilly> still get the error. I wanna know what is using it now, since it seems to not want to die..
[02:09] <Myke> *grml*
[02:10] <ardchoille> W00T! I think I just got another person interested in Kubuntu :)
[02:11] <Myke> please, need help with that apache not doin what i want it to do
[02:12] <ardchoille> Myke: Can you be more specific? What do you want it to do?
[02:12] <intelikey> what's the word for a prosolatizer ?        a prosteasis ?
[02:12] <Aminux> hey
[02:12] <intelikey> would have much funnier if i could have spelled it....
[02:13] <Aminux> where is the KDE system settings file located ?
[02:13] <Myke> ardchoille: has configured a vhost in apache but can't acess to it via browser/lan...i get 404 or wrong directory
[02:13] <ardchoille> intelikey: Prosthesis?
[02:13] <intelikey> :)
[02:14] <adz21c> Aminux: which one?
[02:14] <intelikey> no the artifical limb thing... :)
[02:14] <adz21c> Aminux: ~/.kde/share/config plenty to choose from :-)
[02:14] <ardchoille> intelikey: Oh, lol
[02:15] <Aminux> the one with settings for appearance settings
[02:15] <Aminux> oops
[02:15] <Myke> do i have to comment out the line with ServerRoot when setting up virtual hosts?
[02:15] <Myke> like this: #ServerRoot "/etc/apache2"
[02:16] <ardchoille> Aminux: I think that is split up into different apps: kdisplay, kwin, etc
[02:17] <Aminux> thanks
[02:17] <ardchoille> y
[02:17] <ardchoille> *yw
[02:18] <Aminux> i dont know which files im not suposed to touch
 where is the KDE system settings file located ?   &   <adz21c> Aminux: ~/.kde/share/config plenty to choose from :-)  <<<  yes that is where.     all of them actually.
[02:18] <Aminux> so,i think i'm going to leave it like this
[02:18] <ardchoille> Aminux: What are you trying to do?
[02:18] <Aminux> reset everything back to normal
[02:19] <intelikey> just nuke them all
[02:19] <adz21c> Aminux: intelikey: but he will lose settings for everyting, not just appearance
[02:19] <ardchoille> Aminux: You can log out, go to a tty, then "mv ~/.kde ~/.kde-backup" and then log back in
[02:19] <intelikey> isn't that what means   <Aminux> reset everything back to normal
[02:20] <Aminux> hehehe
[02:20] <adz21c> intelikey: he wants just appearance to be set back to normal from what i gathered, not stuff like amarok settings gone etc
[02:20] <Aminux> yeah
[02:20] <Dr_willis> We need a KDE regiestry Cleaner. :)
[02:20] <adz21c> lol
[02:20] <intelikey> you better duck
[02:21] <Dr_willis> Oh wait thats gnome.
[02:21] <intelikey> :)
[02:21] <ardchoille> Aminux: Open kcontrol, go to the Appearance & Themes > Background section and look into the "Defaults" button at the bottom of kcontrol
[02:21] <Myke> ok, i see
[02:21] <Dr_willis> Its geting amazing at the # of .whateverconfig stuff I get in a normal home dir
[02:22] <intelikey> you got that right
[02:22] <Aminux> ardchoille: thanks,but already did what you told me
[02:22] <Aminux> this  mv ~/.kde ~/.kde-backup
[02:22] <intelikey> i clean my home quite often....
[02:22] <Dr_willis> not sure of an easy way to clean it up either.
[02:22] <adz21c> intelikey: ditto
[02:22] <Dr_willis> every little game i test out  adds somthing. and so forth.
[02:22] <ardchoille> Aminux: Ok, the way I told you will save old settings in case you want to copy them back over.
[02:23] <ardchoille> Dr_willis: tar up $HOME and restore from it when done testing?
[02:24] <Aminux> btw,i installed KDE today and i'm loving it
[02:24] <intelikey> can't copy thme from the running kde     i saw that tested   mv ~/.kde ~/backup   reset   mv ~/backup ~/.kde  << from the running kde   no affect and the backup is lost    heh   easier to just   rm -r ~/.kde     to begin with
[02:24] <adz21c> Aminux: good good :-)
[02:24] <Aminux> alot better than the other alternatives
[02:25] <ardchoille> intelikey: That's why I had him log out first.
[02:25] <intelikey> Aminux like twm icewm openbox and so on ???
[02:25] <intelikey> ardchoille it's the putting it back ?
[02:26] <intelikey> yes have to log out  to put it back.
[02:26] <ardchoille> intelikey: Oh, sorry, misread your post :(
[02:26] <Myke> which channel would you recommend to join as beginner?
[02:26] <ardchoille> Myke: Thisone is good
[02:26] <intelikey> Myke this one.
[02:27] <Aminux> intelikey: better than the other desktop environments
[02:27] <intelikey> Myke we are usually pretty friendly and tollerant of dumb questions...     not that way in most channels.
[02:27] <intelikey> Aminux i just named a few of them...
[02:27] <Aminux> ;-)
[02:27] <Myke> i know that my questions seems to be "dumb" for a pro but to get pro i have to start as noob
[02:27] <intelikey> enlightenment windowmaker fluxbox    and so forth
[02:28] <ardchoille> Myke: We ALL had to start as noobs :)
[02:28] <intelikey> Myke wasn't calling your Q dumb.   but all beginners and some of us do ask some pretty dumb Q's from time to time.  :)
[02:28] <ardchoille> .. all except Linus
[02:29] <Myke> as i said, got a vhost set up with doc root /var/www/acep but when i opne the url in the browser it shows me the folder of var/www
[02:29] <Myke> intelikey: no problem if you state my questions dumb ;-)
[02:29] <intelikey> he started of as the code monkey in charge....    now look what it's become ardchoille
[02:30] <ardchoille> intelikey: True
[02:31] <Myke> so someone could take care about me and my problem? iguess it's a stupid one but i don't get it
[02:32] <adz21c> Myke: just ask and someone will answer :-) general rule in here
[02:32] <Myke> ok, Whats the correct setup for virtual hosts in apache2?
[02:32] <ardchoille> !apache
[02:32] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[02:33] <yintelike> did you ask where is  D:\  ?  :)
[02:33] <yintelike> or "what is the executable extention in linux?"   :)
[02:33] <yintelike> or this one.  i like this one.   "where is the start menu?"
[02:33] <ardchoille> Myke: There's a virtual host section of the apache tutorial at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[02:34] <ardchoille> Myke: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#head-8c16bcd2517fa5b9fa35d616f00d3bb59e981373
[02:35] <intelikey> ardchoille ever mess with cherokee server ?
[02:35] <ardchoille> no
[02:35] <intelikey> i setup apache and cherokee  both   i like cherokee better.     but i might be biased
[02:37] <ardchoille> Never heard of cherokee, I'll have to look into it
[02:37] <intelikey> it may not be as flexable,  idk   but it is fast.
[02:37] <intelikey> !info cherokee
[02:37] <ubotu> cherokee: extremely fast and flexible web server. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.5.dfsg-2 (feisty), package size 221 kB, installed size 712 kB
[02:38] <ardchoille> Oh, and it's in the repos.. nice
[02:38] <hitmanWilly> fork of apache, or completely new project?
[02:38] <intelikey> has been sense hoary anyway...
[02:38] <brad_> hey
[02:38] <brad_> so I leave my computer on at night when I go to bed, watching videos on it
[02:39] <brad_> and some mornings I wake up and the monitor is off and the caps lock and scroll lock are flashing
[02:39] <brad_> and the monitor won't turn back on
[02:39] <brad_> its very odd
[02:39] <intelikey> not sure.  haven't researched it   just tested both for the comparison
[02:40] <intelikey> brad_ if the kbd lights are flashing   that's normally signs of "kernel panic"
[02:41] <brad_> any way to find out what is causing it? I am having a couple of other strange issues
[02:41] <hitmanWilly> brad_: it may have problems with power management
[02:41] <intelikey> acpi or apm    or on the remote chance   kids.
[02:43] <brad_> I dont see any power settings besides the monitor turning itself off after a half hour
[02:45] <NickPresta> what is the application responsible for making the screensaver "work"?
[02:45] <NickPresta> like if I wanted to "test" the screensaver from the command line...
[02:46] <Biovore> well most of the screensavers are just programs
[02:46] <intelikey> someone   ls -l /dev/fuse    for me please ?
[02:46] <intelikey> Dr_willis ?
[02:46] <adz21c> crw-rw---- 1 root root 10, 229 2007-09-15 23:37 /dev/fuse
[02:46] <intelikey> thank you.
[02:47] <stdin> /dev/fuse should be crw-rw---- 1 root fuse < fuse group
[02:47] <stdin> or else it's root only, and that's pointless
[02:48] <intelikey> not for sshfs it's not.
[02:48] <stdin> well, unless you are root ;)
[02:48] <intelikey> correct
[02:49] <stdin> but for "normal" users it should be in the fuse group
[02:49] <brad_> so I also have a weird problem with my wireless card/wireless router
[02:49] <brad_> essentially the internet connection will die and to get it to start again I have to either reset the router or the computer
[02:49] <brad_> sometimes multiple times
[02:49] <JimmyDee> dhcp issue?
[02:49] <brad_> or sometimes just one or the other
[02:49] <brad_> I'm really not sure but the setting is dhcp
[02:50] <JimmyDee> try static ip addresses
[02:50] <intelikey> stdin probably needs suid to work for users too ?
[02:50] <brad_> ok I am in the router settings and in the wireless card settings right now
[02:51] <intelikey> i mean the executable of course      heh suid devices  lol
[02:51] <stdin> intelikey: no
[02:51] <brad_> the only computer side setting is automatic dhcp
[02:51] <intelikey> stdin no ?
[02:51] <brad_> and the only other setting is bootp
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[02:51] <Myke> this website didn't get me any step further...as i'm getting now constantly 404 error
[02:52] <stdin> intelikey: well /bin/fusermount does, but not the sshfs executable
[02:52] <Myke> DocumentRoot /home/michel/public_html/acep
[02:52] <Myke> <Directory "/home/michel/public_html/acep">
[02:52] <Myke> allow from all
[02:52] <Myke> Options +Indexes
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[02:52] <stdin> !paste | Myke
[02:52] <ubotu> Myke: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:52] <Myke> oops
[02:52] <intelikey> right.     but still useless on an nosuid box
[02:52] <stdin> intelikey: yeah
[02:53] <gwossaphira> i have a gnome-installed system. i installed Kubuntu Desktop and after doing so a couple of reboots latermy keyboard ceased to work? I have already attempted to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to no avail. Please help
[02:53] <Myke> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37578/
[02:53] <Myke> and yes, i did reboot apache
[02:57] <Myke> and the apache conf itself: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37579/
[02:57] <intelikey> hmmm ok.    got a file transfer about to go off.  see you fellows after that storm.
[03:01] <donsdw> Before I knew the difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu, I installed Ubuntu.  Is there an easy way to convert?
[03:01] <ardchoille> donsdw: You can install kubuntu with: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:02] <felipe_> :O
[03:02] <donsdw> ardchoille: can I use synaptic?
[03:02] <felipe_> hi
[03:02] <JimmyDee> yes
[03:02] <ardchoille> donsdw: Yes, synaptic is just a front-end for APT
[03:02] <ardchoille> hi felipe_
[03:03] <felipe_> someone know how can i run the kernel modules required for usb mass storage devices?
[03:03] <felipe_> hi ardchoille
[03:03] <donsdw> Does it change everything that needs to change.  I'm running fine with Ubuntu and KDE, but don't know if I should convert.
[03:04] <Myke> so how do i set up corectly a vhost since all my attempts (also the help page didn't helped) are failed? Setting up apache on win2000 was done in 30 mins
[03:04] <felipe_> :o
[03:04] <felipe_> xD
[03:04] <Azzco> Hi I'm running kde-core instead of kubuntu-desktop and I really want to set a usplash, could someone help me with this?
[03:04] <felipe> hehe. hey there :)
[03:04] <ardchoille> felipe: lol
[03:04] <JimmyDee> apt-get install kubuntu-usplash*
[03:05] <ardchoille> donsdw: You can stick with ubuntu and kde, won't hurt anything.. I did that for along while.
[03:05] <felipe_> ardchoille: can you help me? i need run the kernel modules required for usb mass storage :(
[03:05] <Azzco> JimmyDee: That works? o.O Although I'd rather try to find something different =)
[03:05] <ardchoille> felipe_: I'm afraid I'm not that knowledgable about kernel modules :(
[03:05] <JimmyDee> that works, dont forget sudo like I did
[03:05] <felipe_> :(
[03:05] <nerr> Hi
[03:06] <nerr> Could I get some help
[03:06] <Myke> good luck
[03:06] <nerr> -_-
[03:06] <JimmyDee> sure
[03:06] <Azzco> lol okay I tried a usplash-switcher deb package but I didn't have usplashartwork.so ---
[03:06] <ardchoille> donsdw: fwiw, kde apps can run just fine in gnome and vice versa
[03:06] <nerr> Does anyone know how I could get NetGear WG11v3 Wireless card working with this distrobution?
[03:06] <JimmyDee> or sudo apt-get install kubuntu-grub-usplash if youre using grub
[03:07] <ardchoille> Azzco: apt-cache search usplash
[03:07] <nerr> Anyone want to help me dammit
[03:07] <NickPresta> !patience | nerr
[03:07] <ubotu> nerr: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:07] <NickPresta> !language | nerr
[03:07] <ubotu> nerr: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:07] <nerr> no u
[03:07] <Azzco> thanks guys =)
[03:07] <ardchoille> Azzco: I see  libusplash0  in that search :)
[03:07] <nerr> Nick sir, you're gettin haXXed
[03:08] <Myke> nerr, step in line, i was here before you
[03:08] <nerr> FINE!
[03:08] <felipe_> someone know how can i run the kernel modules required for usb mass storage devices?
[03:08] <nerr> !language | NickPresta
[03:08] <ubotu> NickPresta: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:08] <nerr> >_>
[03:08] <donsdw> ardchoille: thanks for your help.  I noticed my vim is compiled as gnome gui.  So I wondered if there was one for KDE.  Then wondered if I should change.  But it ain't broke.
[03:08] <Azzco> ardchoille: huh? I need to check the infoon that I think
[03:08] <nerr> |||
[03:09] <nerr> |-|E|P /\/\E
[03:09] <Myke> smoke a cig while waiting, nerr [03:09] <nerr> >_>
[03:09] <ardchoille> donsdw: It aint broke? Then, you're not trying! lol  I don't think there is a vim for kde, but I could be wrong. I just use vim in a terminal.
[03:09] <nerr> If I smoked, I would
[03:09] <Myke> ok, get a drink then \_/
[03:09] <JimmyDee> if it aint broke? it aint microsoft
[03:09] <felipe_> someone can help me, when kubuntu boots my screen showes "out of range" how can i fix it?
[03:09] <ardchoille> hahahaha
[03:10] <Myke> nerr, i'm waiting since 90 minutes for help, imagine yourself
[03:10] <nerr> XD
[03:10] <Myke> and no harsh word from my side
[03:10] <JimmyDee> whats your question again myke?
[03:11] <ardchoille> Please keep in mind that not everyone in this channel knows everything possible about Linux
[03:11] <Myke> uhm...let me think...almost forgot...ah yes, my virtual hosts settings throw a 404
[03:11] <Myke> vhost conf: [02:53]  Myke: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37578/
[03:11] <JimmyDee> sorry I'm no help there, I use webmin and its no longer recommended by debian
[03:11] <Myke> [02:57]  Myke: and the apache conf itself: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37579/
[03:12] <Myke> i use webmin too but still not working
[03:12] <ardchoille> Myke: Have you tried an apache-specif channel?
[03:12] <tom_> Nerr: I think your answer lies here: http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/youare
[03:13] <Myke> a long time ago i asked if i can get help here about an apache problem and if i recall correct the answer was "yes"
[03:13] <JimmyDee> its only yes relative to the combined knowledge of the room
[03:13] <nerr> Well tom, that was just rude
[03:13] <NickPresta> Myke, this channel isn't an apache support channel so unless your problem lies in the Apache related packages in the repos or something similar, it's off-topic. I said I would help you, but you need to find a new channel or pastebin your question and related information...
[03:14] <Myke> so real answeer should then be "no"?
[03:14] <nerr> I am an idiot da-da-dah dah dah
[03:14] <Myke> so am i
[03:14] <JimmyDee> oi vey such a deal on windows xp
[03:14] <ardchoille> Myke: So we shouldn't help with any apache problems? OR are you just disappointed that your specific problem yielded no answer?
[03:15] <nerr> NickPresta: Is this how I private message you
[03:15] <Myke> i'm sorry ardchoille, i guess i'm just disappointed about myself...no offence intended
[03:15] <nerr> >_>
[03:15] <ardchoille> I would say hang around and try again later.. people come and go in this channel.
[03:16] <Myke> well it's 3:16am and i think i wouldn't hang much longer
[03:16] <nerr> Sooo...is it my time now?
[03:16] <Myke> back in line, kid, still m round
[03:16] <ardchoille> nerr: Just ask a question, someone will answer if they can.
[03:16] <ardchoille> There is no queue here.
[03:16] <Myke> was kidding
[03:16] <JimmyDee> today I put kubuntu on a 233MMX IBM Thinkpad 770, any ideas how to get the mwave modem to work?
[03:16] <nerr> Does anyone know how I could get NetGear WG11v3 Wireless card working with kubuntu?
[03:16] <ardchoille> :)
[03:16] <ardchoille> !netgear
[03:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about netgear - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:17] <NickPresta> !wifi | nerr
[03:17] <ubotu> nerr: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:17] <ardchoille> thanks NickPresta
[03:17] <ardchoille> nerr: ^^
[03:17] <nerr> Nick, you sir... ;>_>
[03:18] <stdin> !modem | JimmyDee
[03:18] <ubotu> JimmyDee: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[03:18] <Myke> so, just for me to clarify...actually no one here who could help with apache vhost problem
[03:18] <JimmyDee> this isnt a real modem, its one of those mongolian half modem soundcards
[03:19] <jordo23> Anyone here play Nexuiz?
[03:19] <stdin> JimmyDee: yeah there may still be a way
[03:19] <NickPresta> !offtopic | jordo23
[03:19] <ubotu> jordo23: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:19] <nerr> Thanks everyone, Nick helped me so much
[03:19] <nerr> <3
[03:19] <JimmyDee> the netgear thing may prove to be sticky, try some info on this page http://swik.net/NdisWrapper+netgear
[03:20] <Myke> ok, back to win2000 then ;-)
[03:20] <Myke> g'n8 all
[03:20] <radius> Myke, have you read the httpd docs for setting up vhosts in apache
[03:20] <Myke> yes i did
[03:20] <Biovore> Myke: vhost.. I know something about that..
[03:20] <stdin> Myke: this isn't an apache channel try #apache
[03:20] <radius> from the looks of it seems not
[03:20] <Myke> stdin: this is why i asked at the start if i should change channel
[03:21] <Myke> Biovore: mind if i open a private chat?
[03:21] <stdin> Myke: you asked "which channel would you recommend to join as beginner?", you didn't say for apacje
[03:21] <stdin> *apache
[03:21] <Biovore> I think I am registered..  go ahead.. might not work..
[03:22] <Biovore> have to be registered to pm
[03:22] <stdin> Biovore: you can set unfiltered on to allow unregistered to pm you
[03:22] <Myke> stdin: [01:50]  Myke: could anyone help me with an apache problem or is this complete wrong channel?
[03:22] <Biovore> how do I do that stdin?
[03:22] <Biovore> <-- kvirc
[03:23] <stdin> Biovore: /msg NickServ set UnFiltered on
[03:23] <Biovore> ah ok
[03:23] <ardchoille> Biovore: Also, check out: /msg nickserv help set
[03:24] <stdin> Biovore: or just create/register a channel. like ##Biovore ;)
[03:25] <JimmyDee> could anyone help me with a mongolian halfbreed mwave modem or is this the complete wrong channel?
[03:26] <stdin> JimmyDee: have you tried the ScanModem tool?
[03:26] <JimmyDee> yes, no joy
[03:26] <JimmyDee> I've searched help files till my fingers bled
[03:26] <JimmyDee> its NOT a winmodem
[03:27] <JimmyDee> sorry dint mean to shout
[03:30] <ardchoille> JimmyDee: Do any of these help? http://tinyurl.com/32e8w3
[03:30] <ardchoille> That's a search for mwave
[03:32] <princeThunar> Tell the guy who keeps using my nick to stop using my nick.
[03:36] <Aminux> is there a fan control prog for kubuntu ?
[03:38] <NickPresta> !virus
[03:38] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[03:39] <Biovore> oO
[03:58] <tekstacy> 'lo all
[03:58] <tekstacy> Where can I find "usbfs options"?
[04:00] <Aminux> why isnt my gxine movie player not showing any picture?
[04:07] <Biovore> Aminux: libxine-extracodecs installed?
[04:08] <rdvon> Hello, I've been trying to access my router through wifi from my netgear.
[04:08] <rdvon> But I'm not sure if it's working correctly. or at all.
[04:08] <rdvon> I typed ifconfig and than tried router
[04:08] <rdvon> but it showed nothing for the gateway.
[04:08] <rdvon> *route
[04:09] <rdvon> sorry :)
[04:09] <Aminux> Biovore: i'm going to check
[04:09] <stdin> routers normally assign you an IP from dhcp. set the interface to dhcp and use knetworkmanager to connect
[04:10] <Aminux> Biovore: i'm installing  libxine-extracodecs right now
[04:10] <Biovore> that might do it :-)
[04:14] <Aminux> Biovore: works ;-)
[04:15] <Biovore> yay
[04:17] <Bob1nz> hey im having trouble with open gl i have spent the last 8 or so hrs trying to find a solution but cant as i dont know what im doing can sumone help please?
[04:18] <flaccid> !ask
[04:18] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:19] <Biovore> Bob1nz: ati card?
[04:19] <Bob1nz> i dont know wat question to ask tho
[04:19] <Bob1nz> no intel
[04:19] <Biovore> oh..
[04:19] <Biovore> whats up?
[04:19] <flaccid> so there is no problem?
[04:19] <Biovore> most of thoses should work out of the box
[04:19] <flaccid> !doesntwork
[04:19] <Biovore> might have monitor issues though..
[04:20] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[04:20] <Bob1nz> it says in kinfo that it failed to initialize
[04:20] <flaccid> what failed to initialize
[04:20] <Bob1nz> opengl
[04:20] <Biovore> does X start?
[04:21] <Bob1nz> yes
[04:21] <Biovore> what does glxinfo say?
[04:21] <flaccid> pastebin xorg.conf
[04:21] <Bob1nz> sorry im still learning
[04:21] <notv> does anyone know what MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC means?
[04:21] <flaccid> and glxinfo
[04:21] <Biovore> notv: yeah.. hardware problem..
[04:21] <flaccid> what model video card
[04:22] <Bob1nz> i865g i selected it through system settings
[04:22] <notv> will disabling acpi affect real time apps?
[04:22] <Biovore> notv: the 8254 is a programmable interval timmer.. used alot for RTC's and stuff..
[04:23] <flaccid> notv, no
[04:23] <notv> will it have any affect on studio recording through firewire?
[04:23] <Biovore> maybe..
[04:23] <flaccid> notv, it shouldnt
[04:24] <Biovore> in fesity, I have seen some weirdness with realtime..  gusty seems to be better imo..
[04:24] <Bob1nz> heres the glxinfo http://paste.ubuntu.com/221/
[04:24] <notv> maybe thats why i randomly get black screens...ill try disabling acpi then
[04:24] <Biovore> Bob1nz: yup.. looks broke :-P
[04:24] <notv> can i upgrade to gutsy from feisty or must i wait until october
[04:24] <Bob1nz> can i fix it?
[04:24] <flaccid> notv, yes
[04:25] <Biovore> notv: technicaly you can.. but its not recommened..
[04:25] <Biovore> gusty still got some big bugs in it..
[04:25] <flaccid> Bob1nz, xorg.conf now
[04:25] <JimmyDee> any experiences with the package mwavem?
[04:26] <Bob1nz> um how do i xorg.conf?
[04:26] <JimmyDee> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[04:27] <flaccid> Bob1nz, kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:27] <flaccid> brb
[04:27] <ardchoille> flaccid: he'll need sudo for that
[04:28] <ardchoille> Excuse me, not sudo, kdesu
[04:28] <ardchoille> Sorry
[04:29] <Biovore> notv: that bug is because your probably got a smp system with PIII's .. :-)
[04:29] <Bob1nz> theas xorg.conf and xorg.conf.1 which one is it?
[04:29] <Schuenemann> how can I know my RAM model?
[04:29] <Schuenemann> without opening the computer :-)
[04:29] <Biovore> notv: just throw the noapci on the end..
[04:29] <Biovore> of grub config
[04:29] <Aminux> is it possible to install the fluxbox desktop from the terminal ?
[04:30] <Biovore> yes
[04:30] <Aminux> how?
[04:30] <Biovore> apt-cache search fluxbox
[04:30] <Biovore> then apt-get install <package name>
[04:30] <Aminux> wow
[04:30] <Aminux> gotta try it
[04:30] <Schuenemann> I need to know if my memory is DDR, DDR2, etc
[04:30] <flaccid> Bob1nz, xorg.conf
[04:30] <Biovore> does the chip on your memory stick have leads?
[04:30] <Biovore> (chips)
[04:30] <Schuenemann> leads?
[04:31] <Biovore> the IC's on the memory module..
[04:31] <Schuenemann> well, I'd like to know it without opening the computer
[04:31] <j0an> helo
[04:31] <j0an> hello
[04:31] <bigleon> anybody know any software that would help me sort out music files that have duplicates?
[04:31] <Biovore> they have pins on them..  or they on BGA pads..
[04:31] <Biovore> DDR2 parts are on BGA's
[04:31] <Schuenemann> I think they're pins
[04:31] <Biovore> probably just ddr then
[04:31] <j0an> can anibody}
[04:31] <Bob1nz> here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/222/
[04:31] <Biovore> !asj
[04:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about asj - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:31] <j0an> helpme with something
[04:31] <Biovore> !ask
[04:31] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:32] <Schuenemann> Biovore, isn't there a command  that'll show that?
[04:32] <j0an> i can't install windows decorations on my kubuntu
[04:32] <Biovore> not sure..
[04:32] <j0an> im new
[04:32] <Biovore> maybe lshw
[04:32] <Aminux> Biovore: that was fast
[04:32] <Biovore> rgr.. thats why I avoid the gui
[04:32] <Biovore> :-P
[04:32] <Aminux> Biovore: are there any more desktops to try out ?
[04:33] <Biovore> gui == 20 times slower, and 10 times the ram
[04:33] <Biovore> Aminux: yes.. there are over 10
[04:33] <Aminux> holy moly
[04:33] <Biovore> gnome and kde are the most popular
[04:33] <Biovore> xfce is good too
[04:33] <Aminux> gui = 20 times slower?
[04:33] <Biovore> the others are very light wate
[04:33] <Aminux> in fluxbox ?
[04:33] <Biovore> Aminux: yes.. got to handle graphics
[04:33] <Schuenemann> Biovore, nothing
[04:33] <Biovore> Schuenemann: what processor and northbridge
[04:34] <Aminux> i thought fluxbox was the light weight
[04:34] <Schuenemann> product: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.26GHz
[04:34] <Schuenemann> what is northbridge?
[04:34] <Biovore> Aminux: it is.. but the apps arn't
[04:34] <Biovore> Schuenemann: ddr or maybe rambus
[04:34] <Aminux> that weird huh
[04:34] <Biovore> Schuenemann: you have hyper threading?
[04:34] <Schuenemann> but wasn't that my question?
[04:35] <Aminux> i mean its suposed to run fast
[04:35] <Schuenemann> I dunno
[04:35] <Schuenemann> I guess so
[04:35] <Biovore> ls /proc/cpuinfo
[04:35] <Schuenemann> there is 'ht' in 'capabilities'
[04:35] <Biovore> you got 2 cpu's
[04:35] <Schuenemann> capabilities: fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe up cid xtpr
[04:35] <notv> how do i update grub?
[04:35] <Biovore> Schuenemann: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[04:36] <Biovore> notv: the grub file is located at /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:36] <Schuenemann> where is that shown? under flags?
[04:36] <Biovore> notv: probably will need 'root' privs to edit it though..
[04:36] <Biovore> Schuenemann: no you should see 2 procs
[04:36] <Schuenemann> it's not... it's just a pentium 4
[04:36] <Schuenemann> not core 2 duo or something
[04:37] <Biovore> ok.. that means it could be ddr or the old rambus stuff
[04:37] <Schuenemann> I don't think it's rambus
[04:37] <Biovore> defently not ddr2 though..
[04:37] <flaccid> Bob1nz, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=526505  <-- solution
[04:37] <notv> biovore i updated the list, then this guide says to run 'update grub' but i get command not found
[04:37] <Bob1nz> thanks will check it out
[04:37] <Biovore> notv: no need.. grub reads the textfile on boot
[04:37] <notv> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191355
[04:37] <notv> ah, okay
[04:37] <Biovore> thats if you need to change where its installed to
[04:38] <Aminux> brb
[04:38] <Biovore> Schuenemann: in /proc/cpuinfo you have family 15 and stepping 9 ?
[04:38] <Schuenemann> stepping 5
[04:39] <Biovore> Schuenemann: lspci..  Host Bridge  82845?
[04:39] <Schuenemann> Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82845G
[04:39] <Biovore> oh.
[04:39] <notv> biovore will adding #defoptions=noapic to grub/menu.lst fix my issue?
[04:39] <Biovore> that probably ddr333 or 400 then..
[04:40] <Schuenemann> it's safer if I look
[04:40] <Biovore> yeah.. if you got a mobo manual it should be in there.. or the bios should give you hints
[04:48] <flaccid> wb
[04:55] <lidia_> HOLA
[04:55] <ardchoille> hi
[04:55] <fabian__0> hola
[04:55] <lidia_> alguien me puede ayudar
[04:56] <lidia_> estoy como loco
[04:56] <ardchoille> !es | lidia_
[04:56] <ubotu> lidia_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:56] <lidia_> recien instale kubuntu
[04:56] <lidia_> y no encuentro repositores
[04:57] <NickPresta> !es | lidia_
[04:57] <ubotu> lidia_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:57] <lidia_> ok gracias
[04:58] <lidia_> chau gracias
[05:02] <lidia_> hola.. sigo loco!!!! como consigo repositores par akubuntu??????
[05:04] <shukty> hi somebody here?
[05:05] <stdin> lidia_: /join #kubuntu-es
[05:06] <shukty> can i ask something about vlager?
[05:06] <lidia_> es la primera ves que veo ubuntu
[05:06] <lidia_> la instale en la compu de mi suegra
[05:06] <stdin> shukty: you can ask
[05:06] <shukty> how to use it
[05:06] <stdin> !es | lidia_
[05:06] <ubotu> lidia_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:06] <shukty> i was a fedora user
[05:06] <lidia_> pero no se como bajar repositores
[05:07] <shukty> i installed ubuntu feisty
[05:07] <shukty> how can i use it
[05:07] <stdin> lidia_: Ingls solamente adentro aqu
[05:08] <stdin> shukty: I don't know what vlager is
[05:09] <shukty> i m using ifconfig
[05:09] <flaccid> !find vlager
[05:09] <shukty> i have to use vlager
[05:09] <ubotu> Package/file vlager does not exist in feisty
[05:09] <flaccid> what is vlager?
[05:09] <shukty> but the bash command doen't exist
[05:09] <shukty> so i m asking
[05:09] <flaccid> it doesn't exist..
[05:09] <stdin> what does vlager do?
[05:10] <flaccid> something to do with PPP ?
[05:10] <shukty> to subnet creation mask
[05:10] <flaccid> you want to set subnet mask on an interface?
[05:10] <flaccid> eg. ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1 255.255.255.0
[05:11] <shukty> thats  what ifconfig do
[05:11] <shukty> but i m seraching
[05:11] <shukty> vlager here in ubuntu
[05:11] <shukty> and i m dizzy
[05:11] <shukty> to search
[05:11] <shukty> ...
[05:12] <flaccid> !enter | shukty
[05:12] <ubotu> shukty: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:12] <flaccid> well i don't think there is vlager on ubuntu
[05:12] <marckie> hello people?
[05:12] <flaccid> hello
[05:12] <marckie> hello flacid
[05:13] <shukty> some1 know how to create sub net in a proxy i was looking 4 vlager bash command but ... it seems ... there's nothing like it ...
[05:20] <Aminux> where can i find more desktops for ubuntu?
[05:21] <luis> alguem pode me ajudar, no consigo alterar o desktop do kubuntu com o kbfx, no altera
[05:21] <shukty> related to beryl?
[05:21] <Aminux> mudar para?
[05:22] <stdin> !br
[05:22] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[05:22] <ardchoille> Aminux: There is a nice list at http://xwinman.org/ and open your graphical package manager and do a search for desktop. I know windowmaker, fluxbox, xfce and lots of others are in the repos.
[05:22] <Aminux> ardchoille: thanks :-)
[05:22] <luis> na verdade quero alterar a barra de ferramenras
[05:22] <ardchoille> Amyw
[05:22] <ardchoille> Aminux: yw
[05:23] <Aminux> luis: isso  facil
[05:23] <stdin> !en | Aminux
[05:23] <ubotu> Aminux: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[05:23] <Aminux> oops
[05:23] <luis> como fao, pois depois que reincio no acontece nada
[05:24] <ardchoille> Looks like luis isn't going to listen.
[05:24] <stdin> luis: /join #ubuntu-br    ou    /join #ubuntu-pt
[05:25] <Aminux> luis: tens que ir a outro canal
[05:25] <luis> ok
[05:27] <luis> vou para animimotus
[05:28] <luis> no deu
[05:30] <ardchoille> Thanks stdin
[05:30] <stdin> had to be done...
[05:32] <ardchoille> True
[05:38] <nzk> I used Automatix, is it safe to take out it's repos from sources.list?
[05:39] <flaccid> nothing is safe with automatix
[05:39] <flaccid> but yes take it out
[05:39] <nzk> Where is sources.list at?
[05:39] <stdin> automatix is the only linux virus
[05:39] <stdin> nzk: /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:40] <nzk> Oh, right
[05:40] <nzk> Only two of the four are automatix ones, the two others are ubuntu repos.
[05:41] <nzk> Thank god, I couldn't update for a while because it kept timing out on one of the repositories.
[05:43] <rickey> dose anyone say hello anymore
[05:43] <stdin> cout << "hello\n"
[05:43] <rickey> thanks
[05:43] <rickey>  hi.
[05:44] <rickey> i am green to kubuntu 7.04 so i got a million question
[05:44] <NickPresta> stdin, error: cout was not declared in this scope
[05:44] <NickPresta> :)
[05:44] <ChuckWells> holy crap, good luck typing that in
[05:44] <ChuckWells> 1,000,000 is a lot
[05:45] <rickey> yea chuck
[05:45] <stdin> NickPresta: I already #included <iostream> and was "using namespace std;"
[05:45] <rickey> but ill lay off you guys tonigth
[05:45] <NickPresta> stdin, ah okay. I missed that :P
[05:45] <ChuckWells> let's get started!
[05:46] <rickey> how do i get my games   with kubuntu 7.04
[05:46] <KillMinus9> click on the menu, "Add/Remove Programs" and then just pick the games you want
[05:46] <stdin> !games | rickey
[05:46] <ubotu> rickey: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[05:47] <hydrogen> i'd suggest using adept-manager instead
[05:47] <hydrogen> as add/remove programs is a horrible piece of badwordhere
[05:47] <rickey> let me look
[05:47] <ChuckWells> sudo apt-get install adept-manager
[05:48] <ChuckWells> get the penguin downhill racer game!  and chromium!
[05:48] <stdin> adept will already be installed
[05:48] <ChuckWells> it's not on mine
[05:48] <stdin> is it in Kubuntu
[05:48] <stdin> (not Ubuntu)
[05:48] <rickey> dose my install disk hafe to be in?
[05:48] <stdin> no
[05:48] <ChuckWells> eh, I just installed the adept one -- it's so...ugly
[05:48] <Biovore> might need to take out the cd lines in the /etc/sources.list
[05:49] <Biovore> err /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:49] <rickey> i went there ,at is  add/remover clicj games nothing there
[05:50] <stdin> rickey: go to Kmenu > System > Adept Manager, then go to File > Manage Repositories  and make sure all are selected
[05:50] <rickey> ok ill check
[05:51] <stdin> after that click "Fetch Update" to refresh the package cache
[05:52] <nzk> I am correct in assuming that I can upgrade to KDE4 on 12/20/07, right?
[05:53] <stdin> not quite
[05:53] <nzk> Why not?
[05:53] <c1|freaky> i love kubuntu :D
[05:53] <stdin> nzk: you can choose to install the packages, but you can't replace kdr3.x with it
[05:56] <Aminux> anyone know if i can record streams with Amarok?
[05:56] <rickey> maybe i dont know where to look for the games in the menu
[05:57] <rickey> everything was installed
[05:57] <rickey> is the games usaly in kmenu?
[05:58] <stdin> in kmenu > games, yes
[05:58] <rickey> i dont even have a listings for games in kmenu
[05:58] <NightBird> are you sure they installed?
[05:59] <rickey> not realy
[05:59] <NightBird> double check then :P
[05:59] <stdin> there are some installed by default, it should be there
[05:59] <rickey> how do i make sure?
[06:00] <rickey> nope no atou install
[06:00] <rickey>  wish there was
[06:02] <rickey> i went to adept installer and clicked games , nothing there ether
[06:02] <ardchoille> rickey: Can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[06:02] <ardchoille> !paste
[06:02] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:04] <rickey> ardchoille , i dont know what that is
[06:15] <Aminux> is there an utility to see the net traffic ?
[06:15] <c1|freaky> nload nethogs iptraf
[06:15] <c1|freaky> nethogs is not in the repos
[06:16] <c1|freaky> its a tool where u can see bandwidth usage by process
[06:16] <Aminux> hmm
[06:17] <e-Hernick> what about iftop
[06:17] <e-Hernick> but my favourite is iptraf
[06:17] <e-Hernick> though I've never seen a really good traffic monitor
[06:18] <Aminux> i've got firestarter now
[06:18] <Biovore> firestater is ok
[06:18] <Aminux> looks ok
[06:20] <klobster> how do i uninstall nvidia proprietary drivers?
[06:20] <Aminux> use envy
[06:21] <klobster> use envy to uninstall?
[06:21] <Aminux> yeah
[06:27] <klobster> is envy a sanctioned script now?
[06:28] <NickPresta> klobster, I don't think so
[06:28] <ardchoille> klobster: If you used APT to install the drivers, then you should be able to use it to uninstall.
[06:28] <klobster> ardchoille: I didn't, I used nvidias website.
[06:29] <klobster> anyone know if the ati x1550 is any good?  Because thaqt is what I am stuck with : /
[06:29] <ardchoille> klobster: No offense, but that was the hard way. Looks like you're on your own.
[06:29] <rdvon> How do i format a flash drive in linux?
[06:29] <ardchoille> !qtparted
[06:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qtparted - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:30] <rdvon> I hate that app
[06:30] <ardchoille> !parted
[06:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about parted - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:30] <ardchoille> Hmm..
[06:30] <klobster> ardchoille: it was easy, actually.  run the script, edit xorg.conf, reboot.  done and done
[06:30] <rdvon> The grammar in this app is atrocious.
[06:31] <rdvon> it's like it was roughly translated from japanese or something :\
[06:31] <rdvon> and... it didnt work.
[06:32] <rdvon> gparted couldn't do it either.
[06:33] <klobster> cfdisk?
[06:33] <rdvon> why can't their just be a built in app that does this ;_;
[06:35] <garfield> free at last
[06:35] <garfield> how do i remove an old kernel
[06:35] <garfield> ?
[06:35] <rdvon> :|
[06:36] <garfield> hey you rdvon why compiz dont work in kde good?
[06:37] <rdvon> What?
[06:37] <rdvon> xD
[06:37] <ardchoille> klobster: The trouble with that is you have to do it again everytime a new kernel is installed. If you install nvidia drivers via the package manager, the pm takes care of all that for you.
[06:37] <garfield> ???
[06:37] <Aminux> garfield: i usually use synaptic to remove an old kernel
[06:37] <rdvon> compiz work in kde good.
[06:38] <garfield> Aminux: adept  i dont have simpatic
[06:38] <rdvon> I hate adept :P
[06:38] <oscar> hello
[06:38] <garfield> rdvon: u lie
[06:39] <rdvon> garfield: only the most horrible package manager out there :P
[06:39] <rdvon> j/k :)
[06:39] <oscar> hello
[06:40] <garfield> rdvon: i try symnaptic didnt like it
[06:40] <rdvon> I like it better.. it's "synaptic
[06:40] <rdvon> "
[06:40] <klobster> ardchoille: that's what boot scripts are for.  it only has to rerun the nvidia package.  it's trivial
[06:40] <Dr_willis> I perfer synaptic also over adept.
[06:41] <Dr_willis> Adept has some neat features..  i just never use them. :)
[06:41] <garfield> rdvon: i install beryl it workin fine but compiz bugs out my pc
[06:42] <rdvon> garfield: compiz fusion ftw :)
[06:43] <oscar__> how mount partition win
[06:43] <Dr_willis> garfield,  it does what i need.. faster then adept does.. thats all that matters to me.
[06:43] <rdvon> IT'S SYNAPTIC. NOT SYMNAPTIC
[06:43] <garfield> oscar__:  install ntfs-config
[06:43] <Dr_willis> then again i tend to use my own apt-get shell scripts also. :)
[06:43] <garfield> rdvon: watever
[06:44] <Dr_willis> for new systems , to install stuff i need.
[06:44] <oscar__> ok thanks
[06:44] <rdvon> Their are too many programs that do the same friggin thing.
[06:45] <garfield> mmm
[06:45] <oscar__> thanks garfield
[06:45] <Dr_willis> rdvon,  not really. :)
[06:46] <rdvon> yes! why are there like 15 billion different window managers??! each using their own "unique" programs!!?!
[06:46] <Dr_willis> They dont do things exactly the same. and  often theres features in one thats not in others.. so its all about using what you perfer.. tossing what you dont.
[06:46] <rdvon> I wish linux was more unified :\
[06:46] <Dr_willis> rdvon,  you are also talking about 20+ years of development, and programing.
[06:46] <oscar__> Is better Synaptic ...!  o Adept???
[06:46] <xp_killer> oscar__: after u install ntfs-config press alt+F2 then type kdesu ntfs-config then select what you want
[06:47] <xp_killer> adept
[06:47] <Dr_willis> some of those window managers are quite old.. and were cutting edge at the time. The fact they still work is sort of amazing.
[06:47] <oscar__> wating... garfield
[06:47] <oscar__> ok
[06:47] <Dr_willis> I perfer synaptic.
[06:47] <rdvon> it was just an example dr_willis ;)
[06:47] <Dr_willis> rdvon,  but my statements still hold.. theres a LOT of 'grandfathered' in stuff.
[06:47] <xp_killer> oscar__: im garfield
[06:48] <Dr_willis> Nothing is keeping you from usign the linux kernel.. and thats all.. redoing the rest of the OS. Its been done. :)
[06:48] <oscar__> yes ok .. xp_killer
[06:48] <oscar__> what is samba??
[06:48] <Dr_willis> Kubuntu could decide to remove 1/2 the stuff it installs.. and people would turn around and install it back on thir systems. Linux is all about Choice and Felxiabilty.
[06:48] <Dr_willis> !samba
[06:49] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:49] <xp_killer> !flood
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[06:49] <rdvon> anyone have any experience with dslinux?
[06:49] <Dr_willis> DSL is a nice mini disrto. Handy to have in your Pc tool box.
[06:49] <Dr_willis> boots nicely off of USB thumbdrives also.
[06:49] <rdvon> I mean the nintendo ds linux ;)
[06:50] <xp_killer> rdvon: nope i didnt had the time they stole my ds
[06:50] <Dr_willis>  only seen  screenshots of 'we some how got it working' :)
[06:50] <Dr_willis> I do have a Programable DS catrige.. :) i may have to check that out.
[06:50] <xp_killer> :(
[06:50] <rdvon> you mean a flash cart?
[06:50] <Dr_willis> rdvon,  yep.
[06:50] <Dr_willis> its.. handy. :)
[06:51] <rdvon> xD nice.. name :)
[06:51] <rdvon> pisses me off.. the wifi doesnt work for some reason.
[06:51] <Dr_willis> that Eee Mini handheld pc . is due out soon also i think.
[06:51] <rdvon> I wanted to try links also
[06:51] <Dr_willis> from what i hear about the DS WiFi - its hard to get it working at all. :)
[06:51] <Dr_willis> Its aparently picky about what routers and stuff it connects to.
[06:52] <rdvon> I had it working before... it was nice browsing with retawq. that was before dldi though :(
[06:52] <Dr_willis> I need to get Opera for the DS :)
[06:52] <rdvon> and my horrible choise of a micro sd card :|
[06:52] <rdvon> links is better i think :D
[06:52] <rdvon> you can download files off the web.
[06:52] <xp_killer> no
[06:52] <rdvon> yes :)
[06:52] <xp_killer> flash
[06:52] <coreymon77> Dr_willis: are you using dslinux?
[06:53] <Dr_willis> coreymon77,  nope.. only seen screen shots/ mention of it..
[06:53] <saroset> !C++
[06:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about c++ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:53] <rdvon> I'm on it right now!
[06:53] <Dr_willis> is it even in a useable state at this time? last i looked it was just a demo
[06:53] <rdvon> But not on irc.. in it.
[06:53] <saroset> Are there any C++ development tools for Kubuntu?
[06:53] <Dr_willis> saroset,  all that are out for Linux are out for Kubuntu.
[06:53] <tekstacy> Is there a way to change the size of the "scroll zone" on my touchpad?
[06:53] <rdvon> DR_Willis: check their site, dslinux.org
[06:53] <stdin> saroset: kdevelop
[06:53] <rdvon> they've come a loooooong way
[06:53] <saroset> Thanks =] 
[06:53] <rdvon> you can browse links with images and such.
[06:54] <stdin> tekstacy: ksynaptics
[06:54] <rdvon> *the web in links
[06:54] <xp_killer> wonder if it has linux for psp
[06:54] <tekstacy> stdin: thanks
[06:55] <rdvon> xp_killer, i'td be really hard without a keyboard dslinux is mostly text based.
[06:55] <xp_killer> stdin: did u help out with the creation of kubuntu?
[06:55] <rdvon> Although they do have some things in nano-X
[06:55] <stdin> xp_killer: nope
[06:55] <xp_killer> rdvon: there a keyboard u can buy for the psp
[06:56] <xp_killer> stdin: so where do u find all the answer so quikly?
[06:56] <rdvon> xp_killer: really? link?
[06:56] <stdin> xp_killer: experience
[06:56] <xp_killer> rdvon: yes
[06:56] <tekstacy> what do I need to install for Kaffine to play newer dvds?
[06:56] <tekstacy> It had issue with css
[06:56] <stdin> tekstacy: libdvdcss2
[06:57] <xp_killer> stdin: how long kubuntu existing now?
[06:57] <stdin> tekstacy: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:57] <rdvon> I cant figure out how to scroll up in this terminal :(
[06:57] <rdvon> in dslinux. :(
[06:57] <Dr_willis> rdvon,  ok.  Looks interesting.. but  not real useable for me. :)
[06:57] <rdvon> DR_willis: I'd still try it.. so much fun!
[06:57] <Dr_willis> I will wait for the Eee :)
[06:58] <xp_killer> eee???
[06:58] <rdvon> what is that?
[06:58] <Dr_willis> i got my GP2X to play with.
[06:58] <rdvon> :O
[06:58] <tekstacy> stdin: thanks again
[06:58] <Dr_willis> Eee = a $300 or so Mini-pc by asuse
[06:58] <xp_killer> lol lame
[06:58] <rdvon> I want one!
[06:58] <coreymon77> rdvon: they have come a long way, but it still cant do much
[06:58] <Dr_willis> Asus?
[06:58] <stdin> xp_killer: 1st release was 5.04
[06:58] <rdvon> coreymon77: have you checked out pepsi man's blog? it can ;)
[06:58] <xp_killer> stdin: kubuntu?what year?
[06:59] <Dr_willis> http://event.asus.com/eeepc/
[06:59] <stdin> xp_killer: 5.04 = 2005/04
[06:59] <Dr_willis> lovely a 100% flash site.
[06:59] <xp_killer> damn i miss out a lot for kubuntu
[07:00] <Dr_willis> Oh wait Eee = $200 :)
[07:01] <coreymon77> Dr_willis: wow, what a crappy machine
[07:01] <Dr_willis> coreymon77,  yea.. whatever....
[07:01] <Dr_willis> you expecting a 1000000000000ghz machien for $200 ?
[07:01] <coreymon77> Dr_willis: thats not it
[07:02] <coreymon77> Dr_willis: max 16gb flash memory with xandros on it?
[07:02] <Dr_willis> its 10x the machine i got in the back corner. :)
[07:02] <Dr_willis> ive had machines with less running more..
[07:03] <Dr_willis> http://www.eeeuser.com/    - has some info also.
[07:06] <coreymon77> Dr_willis: ya, but xandros?
[07:06] <Dr_willis> coreymon77,  like the disrto really matters. :)
[07:06] <coreymon77> Dr_willis: youre paying for a computer that has that preloadd
[07:06] <Dr_willis> 2 days after its released ubuntu will be out for it.
[07:06] <Dr_willis> as will every other disrto. :)
[07:06] <coreymon77> Dr_willis: thats next to as bad as paying for a computer with windows on it
[07:06] <coreymon77> Dr_willis: they made a copyright deal with microsoft
[07:06] <Dr_willis> coreymon77,  yea.. whatever. :) it dosent matter one deal to me.
[07:08] <Dr_willis> seen/heard the arguments about that .  and it all boiled doen to a lot of fluff and hot air from what i could understand.  5 years from now it may just be another foot note in the death of MS. :) we hope
[07:10] <coreymon77> Dr_willis: as much as i wish for that too, i highly doubt it
[07:10] <coreymon77> Dr_willis: just being realistic
[07:11] <Dr_willis> coreymon77,  i just rember oooodles of other 'big deals' in the past - that just vanish after a year or two.. so i dont expect the MS/whoever deals to amount to much either.
[07:11] <Dr_willis> Then again.. in 10 years.. who knows will Linux and MS will be.
[07:11] <Dr_willis> look at stuff 10 yrs ago  compared to today.
[07:11] <saroset> How do you compile a file in Kdevelop?
[07:11] <Dr_willis> a $200 Mini laptop. :)  saying that 10 ago people would laugh at you.
[07:12] <saroset> In ten years, we will have computers in our brains.
[07:12] <stdin> saroset: build > build project  (or F8)
[07:12] <saroset> Thank you stdin
[07:13] <contrast83> saroset: Yeah, kinda like the flying cars we had in 2000. :-P
[07:15] <Daisuke_Laptop> contrast83: you didn't get the memo
[07:15] <Daisuke_Laptop> ?
[07:15] <Daisuke_Laptop> 2008 is the year of the flying car!
[07:15] <contrast83> Ohh, my bad.
[07:15] <Daisuke_Laptop> so we'll get them around...  2pnever
[07:15] <Daisuke_Laptop> 20never, even
[07:16] <xp_killer> m
[07:17] <Dr_willis> THey will come with a free copy of Duke Nukem 4Ever
[07:17] <contrast83> lol
[07:22] <dennis__> how do i  install canscan n640pex?
[07:36] <dsmith_> hello all
[07:36] <Danaman5> hi, I have a question about Kubuntu
[07:36] <dsmith_> I have a strange problem, I am running 7.04 and sound stopped working all of the sudden
[07:37] <Biovore> oO
[07:37] <Biovore> dsmith_: what sound card?
[07:37] <Danaman5> I've heard that I can just install the Kubuntu desktop package to go from Ubuntu to Kubuntu, but can I remove the package to go back to Ubuntu just as easily?
[07:37] <dsmith_> integrated, zd7000 laptop
[07:37] <Biovore> what does lspci say it is?
[07:37] <dsmith_> danaman5: yes
[07:38] <dsmith_> one sec
[07:38] <dsmith_> intel
[07:38] <Biovore> Danaman5: you can have your cake and eat it too..  both can be installed at the same time.. you select the one your going to use at login..
[07:38] <dsmith_> Biovore: I was going to tell him that but he left!
[07:38] <Biovore> yup
[07:39] <dsmith_> ac'97 if that helps
[07:39] <Biovore> whats the lspci line say?
[07:39] <dsmith_> multimedia audiop controllers...etc..
[07:40] <Biovore> Intel Corporation 82801G?
[07:40] <rdvon> yeah.. I can't delete any files off my flash drive for some reason... it's really annoying...
[07:40] <dsmith_> intel 82801EB/ER
[07:40] <Biovore> ok.. same thing I have here..
[07:40] <dsmith_> rdvon: flash drive mounted with read/write enabled?
[07:41] <rdvon> dsmith_ that's what it says in the properties..
[07:41] <Biovore> dsmith_: you try alsamixer from a shell?
[07:41] <rdvon> and it was working fine earlier.
[07:41] <dsmith_> intel ich5 card btw
[07:41] <Biovore> rdvon: type mount in a shell and see if it says "user=<username>" for the flash disk..
[07:41] <Biovore> rdvon: might have to do it as root..
[07:42] <Biovore> dsmith_: rgr.. I have a very simular card in my laptop here..
[07:42] <rdvon> Biovore: tried it in root.
[07:42] <Biovore> anything in dmsg?
[07:42] <dsmith_> hmmmmm Ilook at alsa via gui eevrything seems fine
[07:43] <Biovore> I always use the cli one..
[07:43] <Biovore> I seen some weirdness with the gui ones..  especialy kmix..
[07:43] <rdvon> !pastebin
[07:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:43] <dsmith_> ooops I meant kmix
[07:43] <Biovore> dsmith_: I think something could have got muted..
[07:44] <rdvon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37585/
[07:44] <rdvon> that's what it says when i ran mount.
[07:44] <dsmith_> when I try to play xmms, it mentions soundcad not being configured
[07:44] <Biovore> rdvon: its mounted as read-only
[07:45] <Biovore> maybe write protect switch on flash stick?
[07:46] <rdvon> Biovore: oh.. I'll check again :\
[07:46] <Biovore> dsmith_: well could be its tring oss (/dev/dsp) and something else is  using it..
[07:46] <dsmith_> I am going to log off then back on
[07:46] <Biovore> dsmith_: might want to try giving arts a boot and see if xmms can talk to the sound device..
[07:46] <dsmith_> and see if that fixes it
[07:47] <Biovore> well kill artsd
[07:47] <rdvon> I figured out the problem! I was using a bad micro sd adapter...
[07:47] <Biovore> it sometimes ties up the sound device..
[07:47] <rdvon> cheap things.
[07:47] <dsmith_> let me try that
[07:47] <dsmith_> one sec
[07:47] <Biovore> the cheap sound devices will only allow one oss sound stream at a time.. alsa fixes this.. but most apps still use oss by default..
[07:49] <dsmith_> hmm
[07:49] <dsmith_> brb
[07:53] <dsmith_> Biovore: works now
[07:53] <dsmith_> heh
[07:53] <dsmith_> thanks for the help
[07:53] <Biovore> ok cool.. so its that sorta gay one sound making thing at a time problem..
[07:53] <marcola> Quien habla castellano?
[07:53] <Biovore> tell xmms to use alsa if you can
[07:53] <Biovore> !es
[07:53] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:54] <dsmith_> ok
[07:54] <dsmith_> my shutdown sound did play
[07:54] <dsmith_> xmms is using alsa
[07:55] <Biovore> well artsd isn't.. does weird stuff sometimes..
[07:56] <gannam> I've got kubuntu installed and I'm having an issue installing the ATI drivers.....it keeps telling me that I need to run it as a sudo user when I type       sh ./ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_x64.run
[07:57] <gannam> any ideas/hints?
[07:57] <stdin> install the driver from ubuntu
[07:57] <stdin> !aut
[07:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aut - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:57] <stdin> !ati
[07:57] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:58] <Daisuke_Laptop> there needs to be a readme included with the distro that displays on first boot after install
[07:58] <Daisuke_Laptop> EXPLAINING what the repos are
[07:58] <Daisuke_Laptop> how to use them
[07:58] <stdin> so make one :)
[07:58] <gannam> ty ubotu
[07:58] <Daisuke_Laptop> and why it's a bad idea to do things like graphics drivers in other ways
[07:58] <Daisuke_Laptop> stdin: i think i will.
[07:59] <Daisuke_Laptop> a sidebar in the installer explaining things like this probably wouldn't help, as most people are playing solitaire during the install...  i know i do.
[08:00] <dsmith_> wal street journal ran an article on Ubuntu, and I have to agree with him
[08:00] <dsmith_> Ubuntu is not ready for the everyday user
[08:00] <Biovore> rgr
[08:00] <Daisuke_Laptop> no, but it's pretty gd close
[08:00] <Biovore> Its still a geek toy
[08:00] <dsmith_> play solataire? lol
[08:01] <dsmith_> i have 5 locations running kubuntu for work, all they need it for is web and email
[08:01] <Mr_Sonoma> i have been installing ubuntu for friends without complaints, a quick tutorial on the add/remove programs and set up their stuff and off they go.
[08:01] <dsmith_> no one has complained to me about anything
[08:01] <dsmith_> yea
[08:01] <Daisuke_Laptop> it's not ready for windows' "power users"
[08:02] <Daisuke_Laptop> ie. users that know enough to be dangerous
[08:02] <Mr_Sonoma> windows isnt ready for windows' "power users"
[08:02] <dsmith_> I did the install for them and configured everything, then shipped it off tho them
[08:02] <Lega> Hello.
[08:02] <dsmith_> heh
[08:02] <Daisuke_Laptop> for someone that knows NOTHING about computers, ubuntu's perfect.
[08:02] <dsmith_> Daisuke_Laptop: I agree
[08:03] <Lega> Is there anyway to divide an already linux-installed partition so that I can dual boot windows, or will I have to reformat and then make two partitions?
[08:03] <dsmith_> in another month I will have ben use linux solid for a year
[08:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> i'm there at the end of this month
[08:03] <dsmith_> Lega: I always install windows first, then folow with ubuntu
[08:04] <Lega> Well, I usually do that, but I don't really want to format this computer. :E
[08:04] <Mr_Sonoma> Lega, windows will squash your boot loader, it doesnt recognise linux as a valid OS
[08:04] <Lega> Lame. :\
[08:05] <Lega> *sigh* Oh well, no playing games just yet then, it seems. :o
[08:05] <dsmith_> lega: create a ntfs partition and install there?
[08:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> wine
[08:05] <dsmith_> Mr_Sonoma: would that kill the mbr?
[08:05] <Lega> Wine is really, really... clanky? With most of the games I've tried on it.
[08:05] <Lega> And most of the programs I've tried, too.
[08:06] <dsmith_> I've been able to play, half-life with success
[08:06] <Mr_Sonoma> yes as i understand it,
[08:06] <dsmith_> took some doing to get it working right though
[08:06] <dsmith_> darn
[08:06] <Lega> Well, I play a lot of indie games. I do love some HL, though.
[08:07] <dsmith_> lega: you could try virtualization, but that is slow though
[08:07] <Mr_Sonoma> i havent tested the theory but i do know that windows did not reciognise ubuntu as a os when i installed xp on my wifes computer (she wanted xp and not ubuntu then quickly decided that the stability of linux wasnt bad after all.....actually after a few system crashes)
[08:07] <dsmith_> heh
[08:07] <dsmith_> goota love the BSODs
[08:08] <Lega> Well, that is why one would install windows then install a linux os, so that the linux bootloader takes control, yes?
[08:08] <dsmith_> leva: yes
[08:08] <Mr_Sonoma> yes exactly
[08:08] <dsmith_> lega, ooops
[08:08] <Mr_Sonoma> although i have seen wiki's on doing it the other way
[08:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> virtualization != virtual machine
[08:08] <dsmith_> I'd be skeptical though on trying that
[08:08] <Mr_Sonoma> so it can be done but from my reading it didnt sound fun
[08:10] <Daisuke_Laptop> virtualbox's seamless mode is awesome
[08:11] <Daisuke_Laptop> *however* i have yet to get usb support working in windows :|
[08:12] <Lega> What is Virtualbox?
[08:12] <dsmith_> virtualbox!
[08:12] <dsmith_> !virtualbox
[08:12] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[08:12] <dsmith_> virtualbox is awesome
[08:12] <dsmith_> I tried vista in it
[08:12] <dsmith_> :)
[08:12] <dsmith_> what a pig
[08:13] <dsmith_> now I just have various distros installed to show ppl
[08:13] <Daisuke_Laptop> vista's a pig anyway
[08:13] <dsmith_> aye
[08:13] <Daisuke_Laptop> i'm just using good ol' xp
[08:13] <xp_killer> !ohmy
[08:13] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:13] <dsmith_> oink
[08:13] <Daisuke_Laptop> xp_killer: and what was the ohmy for?
[08:13] <xp_killer> pig
[08:13] <Daisuke_Laptop> pig?
[08:14] <Daisuke_Laptop> are you serious?
[08:14] <xp_killer> lol
[08:14] <Daisuke_Laptop> !botabuse
[08:14] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[08:14] <xp_killer> lol
[08:15] <dsmith_> dont abuse the bot..
[08:16] <xp_killer> i am going back to my slumber
[08:16] <Biovore> !botsnack
[08:16] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[08:16] <dsmith_> heh
[08:16] <Lega> Huh.
[08:16] <Lega> That is odd.
[08:16] <xp_killer> ???
[08:16] <Daisuke_Laptop> one question mark is enough :)
[08:17] <Lega> ... My laptop's processor is a 64bit.
[08:17] <xp_killer> n?
[08:17] <Lega> I've been treating it like a 32. :\
[08:17] <xp_killer> n?
[08:17] <Lega> n==what? Name?
[08:18] <xp_killer> and?
[08:18] <xp_killer> !sms
[08:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sms - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:18] <Daisuke_Laptop> then type "and", it's two more letters, it won't kill you.  you can type the two extra question marks.
[08:18] <Daisuke_Laptop> i think it's past my bedtime
[08:19] <xp_killer> Daisuke_Laptop: 2:20 in da monin i cant see wat im doin
[08:20] <Lega> How is it that there is an ungodly amount of people logged in here, but no one is talking?
[08:21] <xp_killer> ungod wat?
[08:21] <pillowpants> Lega: who can say
[08:21] <NickPresta> Lega, timezones, idle'ing, people who join to read only or people who have no intention on contributing, etc
[08:21] <pillowpants> Lega: my comp has been on all day
[08:21] <xp_killer> mine on for the past week
[08:22] <Lega> Ah. Just seems like a ton of people who do so. *shrug*
[08:22] <xp_killer> im afraid to take it off it might not come back on :(
[08:22] <reldruh> does anybody know how to install an hp deskjet f4100 series printer using the cups web interface? I'm trying to install it on a server with no gui.
[08:22] <Lega> Anyone here run Super Karamba?
[08:23] <Daisuke_Laptop> a day?
[08:23] <NickPresta> Lega, Weather++right now :)
[08:23] <xp_killer> ai karamba
[08:23] <Daisuke_Laptop> i'm pushing a month on my desktop
[08:23] <Daisuke_Laptop> and that's looooow
[08:24] <Lega> Presta: How do I get it to automatically run on log in, without putting a link to it in the .kde/Autostart folder?
[08:25] <Biovore> yup.. that would work lega
[08:25] <Lega> Because that way it seems to pop up the window instead of just nuzzling into the panel like I want it to. :\
[08:25] <xp_killer> how come linux doesnt use to much ram and it does a lot of things and xp dont seems like it does much but eat upp the ram?
[08:25] <Biovore> I ussualt put a shell script in Autostart that does stuff
[08:25] <NickPresta> Lega, you can create a script in /etc/init.d/ and then run `update-rc defaults`
[08:25] <ardchoille> Daisuke_Laptop: You mean a month of uptime on your desktop?
[08:25] <Biovore> xp_killer: binary formats and librarys setups..
[08:26] <xp_killer> no comprede
[08:26] <NickPresta> s/update-rc/update-rc.d/
[08:26] <Lega> I just installed Kubuntu maybe two weeks ago. :E
[08:26] <Daisuke_Laptop> ardchoille: right
[08:26] <Daisuke_Laptop> (like i said, low)
[08:26] <Biovore> xp_killer: almost everything on linux is built  from source.. so everything uses the same libs.. so load kde..  load another copy of kde takes almost nothing extra..
[08:26] <Lega> I'm largely a Linux n00b.
[08:26] <ardchoille> Daisuke_Laptop: You don't update your kernel?
[08:26] <Daisuke_Laptop> ardchoille: has there been a feisty kernel update in a month?
[08:26] <xp_killer> ok
[08:27] <ardchoille> Daisuke_Laptop: Yes, on 2007-08-31 and kerberos update on 2007-09-04
[08:27] <NickPresta> Lega, the best place to put it in the .kde/Autostart
[08:27] <Daisuke_Laptop> wow, shows how often i use my desktop o_O
[08:27] <ardchoille> lol
[08:27] <Lega> Haha, okay. I'll just do that.
[08:27] <rdvon> im using dslinux
[08:27] <rdvon> haha
[08:27] <Lega> How does one update their kernel?
[08:28] <Lega> Oh, wait... mines probably up to date, anyway.
[08:28] <NickPresta> Lega, via your package manager :P
[08:29] <ardchoille> Lega: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:29] <Lega> Ah, okay. So I already knew that.
[08:30] <ardchoille> Daisuke_Laptop: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/
[08:31] <lnx_> do you have "KMix.desktop" in ~/.kde/Autostart ?
[08:32] <NickPresta> lnx_, nope
[08:32] <lnx_> NickPresta , and KMix start when you start kde ?
[08:33] <NickPresta> lnx_, I believe so but I don't recall. I haven't turned off my computer in about a week...
[08:34] <lnx_> NickPresta , aa ok, someone can tell me if in kubunu KMix need to start when kde starts by default ?
[08:35] <ardchoille> lnx_: Mine doesn't
[08:53] <Lega> dsmith_, you still there?
[08:57] <dsmith_> yes
[08:58] <dsmith_> Lega: yes
[08:59] <Lega> I just installed Virtualbox.
[08:59] <Lega> Now where... do... I click the thing to run it?
[09:00] <Lega> I need to be running on more sleep to do things in linux. >.<
[09:00] <dsmith_> heh
[09:00] <dsmith_> do you have a ISO image for windows or linux OS?
[09:01] <Lega> I have an install CD for windows.
[09:01] <Lega> I can make an iso out of it, though.
[09:01] <dsmith_> you have to create the directory for windows, called a vdi
[09:01] <kian> could anyone tell me how to set my home folder as my desktop in kubuntu?
[09:01] <Lega> But I'm not even running vbox yet... I don't know where the executable is.
[09:01] <dsmith_> lega: kubuntu?
[09:02] <dsmith_> kian: why?
[09:02] <Lega> Kubuntu, yes.
[09:02] <dsmith_> one sec
[09:02] <dsmith_> look in system
[09:02] <dsmith_> kmenu...system
[09:03] <kian> dsmith_: i just prefer to have my home folder to be my desktop instead of having another folder; i know it can be done but i can't figure out how
[09:03] <Lega> 'tis not there. :[
[09:03] <dsmith_> kian: I never had anyone ask me before, I agree it should be doable
[09:03] <dsmith_> lega: how did you instal it?
[09:04] <Lega> Downloaded the .deb package for Ubuntu Fiesty Fawn, then used a program called... GDebi Package Installer to install it.
[09:04] <dsmith_> it should be there
[09:04] <dsmith_> check in the other folders
[09:04] <Lega> Hmm, let me try something... brb.
[09:10] <Lega> Hmm, nope.
[09:10] <Lega> Adept says that it is, in fact, installed.
[09:11] <Lega> But I have no way of accessing it.
[09:11] <Lega> I have added my account to its member group, too.
[09:14] <ardchoille> Lega: Open the .deb package in ark and find the executable name, then take that name and type it into the terminal
[09:14] <ardchoille> The executable will probably be in /usr/bin
[09:15] <Lega> Thanks much ardchoille. :D
[09:16] <ardchoille> yw
[09:24] <Lega> Yay Virtualbox is running. :D
[09:29] <dsmith_> sweet
[09:31] <Lega> It runs fairly slow, though?
[09:31] <Lega> I'm mostly going to be using it to play 2D indie games.
[09:31] <Lega> If it can run them fast enough.
[09:35] <knic> how do I enable aiglx and direct rendering on my intel graphics card?
[09:37] <Lega> Your intel graphics card..? Oh wow.
[09:39] <hangthedj> knic, are you trying to run compiz or something?
[09:40] <knic> no
[09:43] <knic> if I say yes, will you help me?
[09:44] <hangthedj> i was just wondering, cause my laptop and desktop both have intel cards and compiz works by just installing it.
[09:44] <hangthedj> i don't know anything about aiglx and all that.  sorry
[09:46] <knic>  I think i fixed the issue
[09:46] <knic> restarting X to find out
[09:55] <Lega> Wow. I am amazed at how fast Virtualbox is running Windows XP. Barely any lag at all.
[09:56] <hangthedj> Lega, it usually runs faster through virtualbox than it does on an actual xp machine.
[09:56] <Lega> That's insane. :O
[09:57] <Lega> And wonderful. I thought I would be dealing with a laggy, unusable emulation of XP.
[09:57] <Lega> Not at all the case.
[09:58] <Lega> And on top of that, not too bad of a load on my CPU.
[09:59] <emil> witam
[10:00] <Lega> ?
[10:03] <Lega> Hmm... hangthedj- any idea how to allow sound to go through the running virtualbox window?
[10:04] <hangthedj> Lega, on my computer in the Virtualbox settings for the machine VM your using, i had to set it to OSS, i think its /dev/null by default or something like that
[10:06] <Lega> Thanks! :D
[10:06] <hangthedj> Lega, did it work?
[10:06] <Lega> Mhmm.
[10:07] <hangthedj> try setting it to Alsa if it doesn't, for OSS to work you may have to install alsa-oss
[10:18] <esper] > hello everyone
[10:20] <hangthedj> !hi | esper] 
[10:20] <ubotu> esper] : Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[10:21] <esper] > i'm loving it!
[10:21] <esper] > there are 3 things i need some help with though
[10:22] <esper] > quick newb question, is there a terminal command to check what resolution my monitor's in?
[10:25] <notv> how do i highlight stuff at the grub boot screen?
[10:25] <hangthedj> notv, you mean change the colors?
[10:25] <esper] > anyone know where adept puts the dwm source files so i can patch it?
[10:26] <hangthedj> esper] , i'm not sure about that, you can go into Settings, Display, and it should tell you though.
[10:26] <esper] > i keep forgetting about systemsettings ><
[10:26] <esper] > lol, sorry, i'm using dwm atm
[10:27] <hangthedj> what are your other questions?
[10:27] <saroset> I cant get my sound to work.
[10:27] <esper] > how can i switch on usb headset?
[10:29] <notv> hangthedj im getting MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC, do you know how to fix that?
[10:30] <notv> i tried to follow a guide but i cant seem to figure it out
[10:30] <hangthedj> esper] , not sure, try 'sudo lsusb' and see if its there.
[10:31] <hangthedj> notv, when you boot?  kernel issues are beyond me, i get pci bug when i boot.
[10:32] <notv> hangthedj, yea when i boot, most of the time i get a black screen, but sometimes it will start up
[10:32] <hangthedj> have you tried searching for that MP-BIOS bug on www.google.com/linux?
[10:34] <notv> ive found a guide but i dont understand what its wanting me to do
[10:34] <notv> have to boot mine with the noapic kernel option, because otherwise the clock would drift and occasionally stop, taking much of the system with it. Boot with "linux noapic" at the grub prompt.
[10:34] <notv> how do i do that?
[10:35] <hangthedj> do you mean acpi?
[10:36] <notv> i dunno, i copied that from a post someone made
[10:37] <notv> either way, how do i boot with linux noacpi at the grub prompt?
[10:37] <hangthedj> notv, at the end of the kernel line /boot/vmlinuz ... ad acpi=off
[10:38] <notv> sudo nano /boot/vmlinuz?
[10:38] <hangthedj> notv, sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:39] <hangthedj> scroll down till you find kernel and at the end of that line add acpi=off
[10:39] <hangthedj> there will be multiple entries, just add it to all of them.
[10:46] <saroset> !sound
[10:46] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[10:47] <deviance> My bios freezes just after the CPU check, before the ram check, any idea why?
[10:48] <TexJoachim> nope
[10:49] <hangthedj> deviance, sorry, no idea.
[10:52] <Lega> Anyone in here use ePSXe?
[10:56] <hangthedj> Lega, is that a playstation emulator?
[10:56] <Lega> Indeed 'tis.
[10:56] <hangthedj> i don't use it. :/
[10:57] <Lega> Oh well. ^^
[11:01] <anoop_> Hello friends,I have a problem with my ubuntu,it doesn't swapon automatically,but during boot shows "activating swapfile swap      [ok] "
[11:02] <Lega> You're talking about a swap partition for ram-like uses, correct anoop?
[11:03] <anoop_> yes definitely,how can i get repair that problem
[11:03] <maverick> anyone successfuly got SHOCKWAVE to work on linux (Firefox) ??
[11:04] <Lega> Anoop_, just to make sure, you did make a swap partition, right?
[11:05] <hangthedj> maverick, isn't shockwave different then flash?
[11:05] <maverick> yeah
[11:05] <hangthedj> i didn't know they had a linux version
[11:05] <maverick> hangthedj: they don't
[11:05] <hangthedj> ahh, wine then?
[11:05] <maverick> hangthedj: yeah
[11:05] <hangthedj> or ?
[11:05] <anoop_> yes lega i have 500MB swap partition.After installation,it worked fine.But when i changed the permission of /etc to 777 it won't working
[11:05] <maverick> hangthedj: if it just works.....hmmm
[11:05] <hangthedj> maverick, no i haven't even tried. :p
[11:06] <llutz> anoop_: why the hell did you set "permission of /etc to 777"?
[11:07] <se7enofnine> somebody know what went wrong if i can't log on my box anymore
[11:07] <hangthedj> mplayer might do it, i don't know, i've spent about a year reading the options and i'm only half way through it.
[11:07] <anoop_> inorder to use Kppp dialler i have to add a "resolv.conf" empty file to the /etc directory.
[11:07] <se7enofnine> all i get after passwd is a black screen and get thrown back to the log in screen
[11:07] <llutz> anoop_: sorry but that was a real stupid idea
[11:09] <se7enofnine> somebody any idea why i cant log on a x screen anymore
[11:09] <hangthedj> se7enofnine, what have you done recently that would mess with x?
[11:09] <anoop_> ok friends, but how can get rid of that.I have to activate the swap partition every time i log on to ubuntu,manually using "sudo swapon /dev/sda8(my partition name)
[11:11] <Lega> And I am totally slowly passing out... g'night.
[11:12] <se7enofnine> hangthedj: nothing rebooted
[11:13] <se7enofnine> i need to find a log file to find out whats went wrong
[11:13] <se7enofnine> but i have no idea where to check
[11:14] <hangthedj> se7enofnine, /var/log/Xorg*
[11:15] <anoop_> llutz: give me any answer
[11:15] <llutz> anoop_: edit /etc/fstab
[11:16] <llutz> anoop_: but that will not be your last problem, if you really changed complete /etc to 777 :)
[11:16] <se7enofnine> yes hangthedj nothing special there ... and if i boot in single user mode everything works
[11:17] <anoop_> llutz: no i hadn't edited the fstab. Its the default file created by ubuntu while installation
[11:18] <hangthedj> se7enofnine, try resetting X via 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and see if that fixes it
[11:18] <hangthedj> other than that, i'm not sure, it 2:30am, and i'm having problems thinking.
[11:19] <Ace2016> shouldn't you be sleeping now?
[11:20] <hangthedj> probably, but hey, tomorrows' sunday right? i'll probably fall asleep in this chair.
[11:21] <hangthedj> and fall over, and type something like laksdjfailao, and it'll be my forhead talking.
[11:35] <se7enofnine> how do i reconfigure the xorg server again
[11:35] <deviance> dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[11:38] <se7enofnine> thanks deviance
[11:40] <se7enofnine> still can't log on my x system
[11:40] <se7enofnine> ????????
[11:45] <germanjew> can anyone please help me set up Wine?
[11:45] <germanjew> or give me a linky to where i can read about it?
[11:47] <hangthedj> germanjew, setup to do what?
[11:47] <hangthedj> what do you want to run?
[11:47] <germanjew> i want to play counterstrike on it
[11:47] <germanjew> source if possible
[11:48] <germanjew> you can just point me in the right direction, like a read me or something, and i should be able to get it working
[11:51] <hangthedj> germanjew, i think if you go to either www.winehq.com, or www.distrowatch.com
[11:52] <germanjew> ok, thanks allot
[11:52] <llutz> http://www.distrowatch.com/ seems to be stilld down
[11:58] <w0nder> whats the chan for gutsy support?
[11:59] <hangthedj> w0nder, #ubuntu+1
[11:59] <w0nder> thanks
[12:00] <deviance> Hello
[12:00] <deviance> se7enofnine: Is it working now?
[12:03] <tazgodx> im trying to install a .deb file, and im getting this error, anyone know how to fix it? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37589/
[12:05] <xp_killer> tazgodx:  try  sudo apt-get -f install
[12:06] <w0nder> kubuntu won't install from the livecd desktop... it just shows up in the task bar for awhile then disappears
[12:06] <w0nder> window never comes up
[12:07] <tazgodx> doing sudo apt-get -f install returns http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37590/
[12:07] <xp_killer> w0nder: did u try the safe graphic mode?
[12:09] <w0nder> good thinking xp_killer, no
[12:09] <w0nder> i'll try that now
[12:12] <xp_killer> tazgodx: dpkg -r libmyth-0.20.2.so.0.20.2
[12:15] <tazgodx> that gives me http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37591/
[12:17] <w0nder> xp_killer: it didnt work... hmm
[12:19] <xp_killer> w0nder: try the other modes?
[12:19] <w0nder> other modes?
[12:19] <xp_killer> tazgodx:  when u try to install other thing does it give u errors?
[12:20] <w0nder> no errors at all
[12:21] <tazgodx> well, i never had errors before today, but now i can't do a sudo apt-get upgrade i get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37592/
[12:22] <xp_killer> !botsnack
[12:22] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[12:22] <w0nder> im trying the oem install
[12:22] <xp_killer> w0nder: u check to seee if the cd have errors?
[12:22] <w0nder> yeah it'
[12:22] <w0nder> 's fine
[12:24] <w0nder> heh
[12:27] <dennis__> how do i install ma-620 infrared usb adapter?
[12:32] <kamikaze> !
[12:32] <emilsedgh> !ru | kamikaze
[12:32] <ubotu> kamikaze:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[12:33] <kamikaze>   -  
[12:33] <kamikaze>   
[12:34] <w0nder> ?!
[12:34] <kamikaze> - 
[12:34] <xp_killer> !re | kamikaze
[12:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about re - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:35] <xp_killer> !ru | kamikaze
[12:35] <ubotu> kamikaze:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[12:35] <kamikaze> u menya na ruskom pishet ili zyuzliki?
[12:36] <xp_killer> o_O
[12:37] <llp78> can anyone help me setup duel boot - I have both operating systems installed - I just need to configure grub
[12:39] <xp_killer> llp78: was grub allready install?
[12:40] <llp78> xp_killer: yes I have kubuntu running - i have installed windows on a seperate hd and just need to config grub.. so it see's the win os
[12:43] <llp78> xp_killer: its got something todo with  /boot/grub/menu.lst but im not sure what i need to insert//
[12:43] <xp_killer> no
[12:44] <xp_killer> llp78: u dont have to
[12:44] <Bob1nz> does anyone have a intel 865g graphics chip with glx working? if so what config do u hav?
[12:44] <llp78> xp_killerok but when i boot i does not give me the option for windows - only kubuntu
[12:45] <xp_killer> llp78: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-778ecd20f83f92ebaa5aaec5f1b4615539c2f8d3
[12:46] <roar_> lip78 ; there should be an entry in menu.lst for all bootables, xp too, can you see it
[12:46] <llp78> xp_killer: thanks ill give it a go (Y)
[12:46] <waylandbill> llp78: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37593/
[12:52] <xp_killer> turn*
[12:53] <hamadooo> hii .. what is the restricted drivers use for ??
[12:53] <hamadooo> why  my wireless card is there ?
[12:55] <xp_killer> ?
[01:16] <mez_> Uptime: 41 minutes
[01:17] <SlimG2> what CLI app can I use to play audio CD tracks directly to stdout for direct encoding?
[01:17] <mez_> google
[01:18] <sergio> hi all
[01:21] <Black_Monkey> hi, I have a second session logged in, but I don't know the password to it - how can I disconnect it?
[01:25] <Carnage`> Black_Monkey: You can install "slay" and use it to kill all processes of that user
[01:25] <Black_Monkey> kk, thanks
[01:36] <dzidek> hi
[01:37] <dzidek> siemka sa polacy?
[01:39] <tsdgeos> !pl
[01:39] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[01:39] <ksivaji> hi
[01:47] <maverick> hi
[01:48] <maverick> !ar
[01:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ar - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:00] <Ax-Ax>  why does my xchat systray icon pop up in a window, and why does the panels disappear randomly?
[02:09] <Ax-Ax>  why does my xcha systray icon pop up in a window, and why does the panels disappear randomly?
[02:13] <Ax-Ax> hello?
[02:13] <emilsedgh> !hi | Ax-Ax
[02:13] <ubotu> Ax-Ax: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[02:14] <Ax-Ax> ..
[02:14] <emilsedgh> Ax-Ax: ?
[02:14] <Ax-Ax> i ask something, none cares, i write hello, everyone hates me.
[02:15] <mitzevo> ok
[02:15] <mitzevo> if you want
[02:15] <mitzevo> =] 
[02:15] <Ax-Ax> it was just a statement, dont mean i like it.
[02:16] <pablitorr> hi! can anybody tell me where to download MAD Mp3 decoding library for k3B please?
[02:18] <ksivaji> !k3b
[02:18] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[02:19] <pablitorr> !k3b
[02:19] <ksivaji> !mp3
[02:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:19] <pablitorr> thanks
[02:19] <Ax-Ax> why does my xchat systray icon pop up in a window, and why does the panels disappear randomly?
[02:20] <tsdgeos> Ax-Ax: reapating it won't make people answer you faster
[02:20] <ksivaji> tsdgeos try #ubuntu
[02:20] <tsdgeos> ksivaji: .
[02:20] <Ax-Ax> tsdgeos; oh, does somone answer anyway?
[02:21] <tsdgeos> Ax-Ax: .
[02:22] <Ax-Ax> tsdgeos; i belive that, yes. if some people join, and i repeat, then theres more chance of an answer.
[02:25] <Ax-Ax> ok, does anybody know why my xchat systray icon does pop up in a window, and why does the panels disappear randomly?
[02:25] <adz21c> what does the window contain?
[02:25] <adz21c> just the icon that should be in system tray?
[02:25] <Ax-Ax> its a minmal window with a systray icon in
[02:26] <Ax-Ax> rel annoying
[02:26] <adz21c> hold on let me see if it happens for me
[02:26] <emilsedgh> !repeat | Ax-Ax
[02:26] <ubotu> Ax-Ax: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:27] <Ax-Ax> wtf, adz21c did just anwer :(
[02:27] <adz21c> well it appears in my systray ... and takes up quite a bit of space in there as well i might add lol
[02:28] <adz21c> ur using normal kicker right?
[02:28] <Ax-Ax> hold on, i screenshot it
[02:28] <adz21c> i think i know what you mean, used to happen to me years ago with kopete when i was in gnome
[02:29] <mitzevo> kubuntu vs. pc-bsd
[02:29] <mitzevo> lol
[02:29] <Ax-Ax> http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u151/ax-ax/xchatannoy.png
[02:29] <mitzevo> what kind of question/statement is that
[02:30] <adz21c> where is your system tray?
[02:30] <Ax-Ax> up, on the right
[02:30] <adz21c> oh yea i see it
[02:31] <adz21c> i assume that panel at the top is just normal kicker with sys tray applet, its not an alternative?
[02:31] <Ax-Ax> yes
[02:32] <adz21c> what version of kubuntu u using?
[02:32] <Ax-Ax> oh...
[02:32] <Ax-Ax> fucked-up half-gutsy
[02:33] <adz21c> ok
[02:33] <Ax-Ax> but its just some programs which is gutsy
[02:33] <adz21c> are any of the kde or xchat packages from gutsy?
[02:33] <PriceChild> !gutsy | Ax-Ax
[02:33] <Ax-Ax> nope
[02:33] <ubotu> Ax-Ax: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[02:33] <Ax-Ax> PriceChild; I KNOW THAT ALREADY
[02:34] <PriceChild> Ax-Ax, well  you have random gutsy packages on your system?
[02:34] <Ax-Ax> Just some
[02:34] <PriceChild> Ax-Ax, then #ubuntu+1
[02:35] <adz21c> i take it ur mixing gutsy with feisty?
[02:36] <Ax-Ax> not intentionally
[02:37] <adz21c> not intentionally?
[02:39] <Ax-Ax> installed some gutsy things by mistake :(
[02:40] <adz21c> ok, well, my answer is i don't know. I am runnign clean feisty and xchat goes into my system tray fine. All i can think of is made some gutsy packages you installed are what xchat or kde or both are dependant on and its mashed your install a bit
[02:41] <jhutchins> Ax-Ax: I'd suggest rolling back to all feisty.  xchat relies on some gnome components which probably aren't matching up.
[02:42] <Ax-Ax> how?
[02:42] <jhutchins> aptitude uninstall <package>.  fix your repos.
[02:42] <Ax-Ax> you mean uninstall ubuntu?
[02:43] <adz21c> no just the certain packages
[02:43] <adz21c> unless u don't know them then it might just be easier to install fresh
[02:43] <Ax-Ax> how do i know them?
[02:43] <Ax-Ax> oh
[02:44] <uga> heh, there should be an apt-get dist-downgrade, to allow going for lower versions =)
[02:45] <Hamlon> Hello. Since i installed compizfusion all my tray icons open as separate windows in the top left of the screen, anyone knows whats up with that?
[02:45] <adz21c> would that find gutsy packages in a feisty install tho? not just put him back to edgy?
[02:45] <Ax-Ax> ..
[02:46] <Ax-Ax> isnt it easier just wait for gutsy?
[02:46] <adz21c> Hamlon: in the compiz settings manager did you disable workarounds or qt window fix?
[02:46] <ghn20070831> Any out there know how to get a list of Chat Groups?  Example of a chat group is #kubantu.
[02:46] <adz21c> Ax-Ax: if you can put up with the xchat window yea
[02:46] <Hamlon> No, the workarounds are active i think..
[02:46] <Hamlon> Let me check
[02:47] <uga> ghn20070831: http://searchirc.com/
[02:47] <Ax-Ax> ..   If i close the xchatsystray window, the icon gets back
[02:47] <blekos> how can i join irc from command line?
[02:47] <Ax-Ax>  /join #chanel
[02:48] <uga> blekos: apt-get install irssi
[02:48] <uga> =)
[02:48] <blekos> and then???
[02:48] <Ax-Ax> blekos; you mean terminal or xchat command line?
[02:48] <Hamlon> adz21c: I have the qt window fix checked, should i disable it?
[02:48] <uga> blekos: and then /connect irc.freenode.net, /join #kubuntu
[02:48] <uga> blekos: man irssi =)
[02:49] <adz21c> Hamlon: no i found that started doing what you say
[02:50] <blekos_> hi, i did
[02:50] <blekos_> Ax-Ax what is the difference?
[02:50] <Ax-Ax> oh
[02:51] <adz21c> Hamlon: what version of kubuntu you running and where u get the fusion packages from?
[02:51] <Ax-Ax> whats your irc program, blekos?
[02:52] <maverick> indeed yeah
[02:52] <bob_> !startup
[02:52] <ubotu> To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[02:52] <Hamlon> adz21c: Im running Feisty, and i got the packages from ppa.dogfood.launchpad.net/amaranth/ubuntu
[02:53] <xp_killer> ubotu: can i lauch a cdlive while im on my desktop?
[02:53] <bob_> how do i get beryl and checkgmail to load everytime i start my computer up in kubuntu?
[02:53] <maverick> !ubotu
[02:53] <xp_killer> !hi | bob
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[02:53] <ubotu> bob: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[02:54] <maverick> xp_killer: ubotu is a robot
[02:54] <bob_> heh
[02:54] <maverick> sorry :d a ot
[02:54] <maverick> bot
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[02:54] <xp_killer> maverick: : can i lauch a cdlive while im on my desktop?
[02:54] <bob_> how do i get beryl and checkgmail to load everytime i start my computer up in kubuntu?
[02:55] <xp_killer> maverick: i forgot :p im still half asleep
[02:55] <blekos__> Ax-Ax i use konversation and irssi
[02:55] <maverick> as far as i know...NO
[02:55] <Ax-xA> lol
[02:55] <adz21c> Hamlon: I am running feisty and compiz-fusion and all is well for me, however I installed compiz-fusion using the following guide http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Compiz-Fusion_.28a_Compiz-Beryl_fusion.29
[02:55] <maverick> xp_killer: maybe they've doe LiveCDs that does
[02:55] <blekos__> i'm practising to use ssh
[02:55] <bob_> xp_killer: you could do a vm i guess
[02:56] <blekos__> btw does anybody know if you can read your kmail from command line?
[02:56] <xp_killer> bob_: vm?
[02:57] <Ax-Ax> blekos, in konversation type /join #chanel
[02:57] <emilsedgh> blekos__: kmail? command line? then use a command cline mail client...
[02:57] <Hamlon> adz21c: Yes i tried that too, but i get an error about a broke dependency.
[02:57] <emilsedgh> blekos__: you should be able to read mail via dcop from kmail
[02:57] <blekos__> that means I have to use 2 mail clients
[02:58] <blekos__> i basically want to access my pc from work, using putty.
[02:58] <blekos__> It's faster than having remote connection etc
[02:59] <uga> uhm.... if you guys wanted to do a full backup on a secondary disk, what would you use? rsyncing? I'd like something that verifies the secondary copy is a good copy (md5 or so), so that I don't get surprises if the other disk is damaged
[02:59] <ghn20070831> Thanks uga for the prompt response. I have got the list on opening the url.  I am completely new to IM and I was hesitant about it until now because of the Web security concern.  I have just set up Pidgin (multiprotocol support) on Linux that includes AIM, ICQ, IRC, Yahoo and XMPP.  So far AIM and IRC seems to be working fine.
[02:59] <ghn20070831> Does anyone out there also know the urls to get the Chat Group list for AIM, ICQ, Yahoo and XMPP?
[03:02] <adz21c> Hamlon: you tried the compiz help channels?
[03:03] <Hamlon> adz21c: Not yet, ill go there next. Do you know where i can find them?
[03:03] <dave4272> Hello
[03:03] <adz21c> Hamlon: I'll have a look
[03:03] <dave4272> I need some help accessing a Mac on my network via Ubuntu
[03:03] <uga> uhm... if nobody suggests anything better I'll assume rsync is best for backups?
[03:03] <adz21c> Hamlon: http://forum.compiz-fusion.org/showthread.php?t=3309
[03:04] <Hamlon> adz21c: Ok, thank you for your time.
[03:04] <adz21c> Hamlon: no problem :-)
[03:05] <uga> uhmpf. I wish rsync had versioning support
[03:15] <jana> hallo, ich htte eine Frage. Habe Feisty Fawn installiert und es ist nicht mglich kweather oder kmoon angezeigt zu bekommen. deie aderen anwendungen des Pakekte kdetoys funtionieren, Danke!
[03:18] <uga> jana: I'll try to read it, but my german (if any) sucks =)
[03:19] <uga> jana: "hello, I've got a... (problem?). I have installed Feisty Faun and  kweather or kmoon (don't show up?). Is there a working kdetoys packet?
[03:19] <uga> is that a correct translation? :P
[03:20] <jana> yes it  the right translation
[03:20] <uga> heh
[03:20] <uga> jana: distributions like kubuntu split packages like kdetoys and others into smaller packages, so that people don't need to install all applications
[03:21] <uga> jana: there's separate kmoon and kweather packages
[03:21] <uga> jana: apt-get install kmoon kweather
[03:22] <uga> xp_killer: heh
[03:25] <jana> I have kmoon and kweather updated, but still i doesn t work. Is it a bug of 7.04 or ist tehre anything i can do?
[03:25] <uga> jana: I have it working herek in feisty
[03:25] <uga> are you trying through the panel?
[03:25] <jana> how did you do that?
[03:26] <uga> ie, right click in kicker->add applet to panel-> and type in "weather" to search for it
[03:26] <jana> i tried through the panel
[03:26] <uga> uhm... strange. You should have it there
[03:26] <uga> I just installed it and turned up
[03:26] <uga> no need to even close kde. That surprised me
[03:28] <zsz> if I start compiz-fusion, it generates a 5px wide white rectangle around taskbar, all menus and tooltips. See http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?b1ee7ed173.png
[03:28] <zsz> how do I get rid of it?
[03:29] <zsz> (and yes, I already asked in #compiz-fusion but there's no life there)
[03:34] <kraut> moin
[03:35] <crazylazy> hello
[03:35] <crazylazy> how can I run kubuntu live via pxe?
[03:35] <BluesKaj> Howdy All :)
[03:36] <crazylazy> Is it possibole to boot kubuntu via PXE?
[03:40] <BluesKaj> !patience | crazylazy
[03:40] <ubotu> crazylazy: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:40] <BluesKaj> crazylazy, I'm not exactly a new user but what is PXE ?
[03:42] <crazylazy> pre eXucutabole Enviroment
[03:44] <sayers> how do I have Kmail not empty my trash?
[03:44] <BluesKaj> crazylazy, quote "normal ISC DHCP software shipped with Linux can handle PXE." http://www.kegel.com/linux/pxe.html
[03:45] <crazylazy> that looks tiering
[03:45] <ubunturos> !pxe
[03:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pxe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:45] <crazylazy>  want to set it up in less that 15 minutes
[03:46] <BluesKaj> sayers, in kmail settings/configure kmail/misc
[03:49] <BluesKaj> crazylazy, what you "want" and what help is available plus your ability to do the proper research will prolly determine how long it takes ... if you can find the solution yourself and it sounds to me like you have the experience to so , then I'd suggest that.
[03:50] <crazylazy> Ok, then I won't need u guys
[03:51] <BluesKaj> crazylazy, this might help as well: http://pxes.sourceforge.net/
[03:51] <JimmyDee> hi kubuntu people, anyone doing compiz-fusion for amd64 today?
[03:52] <sayers> BluesKaj: Kmai before = 90% now it = 100% awesome thanks very very much.
[03:52] <JimmyDee> if so how do you get around the gnome-window-decorator issue?
[03:52] <JimmyDee> errr kde-decorator
[03:53] <BluesKaj> sayers, I prefer kmail , altho it doesn't "look'" nice as thunderbird , it's more versatile
[03:54] <BluesKaj> !compiz |JimmyDee
[03:54] <ubotu> JimmyDee: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:56] <sayers> BluesKaj: the calander feature is a big plus for me
[03:57] <BluesKaj> at work sayers , or you have a very busy social life ? :)
[03:58] <sayers> BluesKaj: No i'm quite lonely but I need to organize my lonely time ;)
[04:01] <BluesKaj> my wife organizes my time for me , no need for a calendar :)
[04:03] <wers> how do I prevent beagle from running everytime I log in?
[04:04] <JimmyDee> y
[04:07] <toby> When I go ctrl-alt-F1 or ctrl-alt-F2, instead of switching to my terminal the letters P, Q, R, S appear onscreen
[04:08] <toby> (in the terminal window which is open in KDE at the time)
[04:08] <toby> Do you think this is a keyboard configuration issue? I've tried two keyboards
[04:08] <xp_killer> hien?
[04:09] <xp_killer> don't know i'm still a noob
[04:10] <uga> toby: what keyboard is it?
[04:10] <BluesKaj> toby, it could be a KB issue , check your KB settings in regional & language
[04:12] <uga> also some keyboards, like microsoft, include an F-Lock button, which disables F functions by default
[04:13] <toby> I have two keyboards - one is "proline" the other is generic unbranded. They're both pretty ordinary.
[04:15] <toby> BluesKaj: That seems to have fixed it, thanks! The keyboard options in Regional and Language were all greyed out.  I clicked "Enable Keyboard Layouts" and now I can switch to terminal.
[04:16] <BluesKaj> cool :)
[04:22] <deichgraf4> ciao
[04:26] <ddjikic_> hi can someone help me i have problems with my graphic card (ati) on kubuntu7 the fan is not working ?
[04:27] <sayers> Are there security risks of setting up a LAMP server on my desktop if it is impossible to acess my connection unless your via LAN
[04:28] <BluesKaj> ddjikic_, perhaps the chip temp doesn't require the fan to be running on the card
[04:28] <ddjikic_> blueskaj , the card is very hot
[04:29] <ddjikic_> blueskaj , i had the same problem with my procesor and i installed dellfand so now the processor is ok
[04:31] <BluesKaj> is the card a dropin or proprietary
[04:32] <ddjikic_> i dont know
[04:32] <BluesKaj> was it installed when purchased ?
[04:32] <jhutchins> sayers: there are security risks in turning on a computer.
[04:32] <combinio> what codec do i need to watch *.RMVB movies ?? :}
[04:33] <jhutchins> sayers: What's important is to understand them and be prepared.
[04:33] <jhutchins> combinio: RealPlayer
[04:33] <combinio> jhutchins: sudo apt-get install realplayer ?
[04:33] <ddjikic_> blueskaj , yes it was installed , its a dell laptop
[04:33] <jhutchins> !real | combinio
[04:33] <ubotu> combinio: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:33] <combinio> jhutchins: thanks :)
[04:33] <jhutchins> sorry, it's buried in the first URL iirc.
[04:34] <jhutchins> !info realplayer
[04:34] <ubotu> Package realplayer does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[04:34] <BluesKaj> ddjikic_, then dell should have an app for your video card fan as well as the cpu fan
[04:35] <feimao_> !info mplayer
[04:35] <ddjikic_> no nothing for linux :(
[04:35] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:1.0~rc1-0ubuntu9.1 (feisty), package size 3967 kB, installed size 10004 kB
[04:36] <combinio> jhutchins: i have an alert that there was a problem with drvc.so during loading library or decoder ?? :|
[04:37] <BluesKaj> well, ddjikic_ dunno, perhaps someone else who owns a dell laptop in here can help ... anyone ?
[04:37] <combinio> i think all necessary codecs are installed on my machine :S
[04:37] <combinio> but there is something wrong with *.rmvb movies :/
[04:38] <BluesKaj> combinio, try the helix player
[04:38] <combinio> BluesKaj: install helixplayer ?
[04:38] <combinio> :] 
[04:38] <combinio> i'm using kaffeine player
[04:38] <combinio> untill now :)
[04:39] <BluesKaj> yeah combinio look in adept
[04:40] <combinio> BluesKaj: ok - it is installing now :)
[04:42] <combinio> crap! 'The player does not have the capabilites to play back this content. This content is uspported by RealPlayer' :|
[04:42] <combinio> 'The following componetns are required: audio/x-pn-realaudio'
[04:42] <patrick__> hi
[04:43] <combinio> !audio/x-pn-realaudio
[04:43] <combinio> oupss...
[04:44] <combinio> BluesKaj: do u know how can i install that audio/x-pn-realaudio ? :>
[04:44] <jhutchins> combinio: The actual Real player is a newer version than the one distributed as Helix; it may also be necessary to convert rmvb files.
[04:44] <jhutchins> combinio: That's a mime type, not a file/library/codec.
[04:45] <combinio> jhutchins: but it doesn't work at all - with all player (e.g. kaffeine, totem, helix)
[04:45] <jhutchins> combinio: Right, because real is a propietary format.
[04:45] <jhutchins> combinio: You need the real player.
[04:46] <combinio> jhutchins: already got it
[04:46] <jhutchins> combinio: Helix is the free version of real, and if you get it from the Real site it's new enough to work.
[04:46] <jhutchins> combinio: The version distributed through other channels doens't play current content.
[04:47] <combinio> jhutchins: ok, i'll download nwer version of helix
[04:47] <patrick__> i have a question can any help me? thats the first time that i use kubuntu... i heard that i must type some commands in the console like things to update.. so can any say me some commands they i need?
[04:48] <jhutchins> combinio: http://www.real.com/linux
[04:48] <patrick__> sry for my bad english
[04:48] <tsdgeos> patrick__: your english is fine
[04:48] <combinio> jhutchins: thx a lot
[04:48] <patrick__> ...thanks.. or are you joking?^^
[04:48] <jhutchins> patrick__: There is a gui update tool, but the console update procedure is sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade.
[04:49] <patrick__> ..moment i must first translate that^^
[04:49] <patrick__> whats sudo aptitude?
[04:50] <tsdgeos> no need to use aptitude
[04:50] <patrick__> what i have to do?
[04:50] <jhutchins> patrick__: The console gives you incredible power over the sytem, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[04:50] <tsdgeos> sudo apt-get update and the sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:50] <jhutchins> !sudo | patrick__
[04:50] <ubotu> patrick__: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:50] <jhutchins> !kdesu | patrick__
[04:50] <ubotu> patrick__: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[04:50] <combinio> !bin
[04:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:50] <combinio> jhutchins: how can i install *.bin file ? :P
[04:50] <patrick__> ah ok thank you
[04:50] <patrick__> all
[04:50] <tsdgeos> combinio: just run it
[04:51] <jhutchins> combinio:  $ chmod a+x RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[04:51] <jhutchins> combinio:  $ sudo ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[04:51] <TuxKilla> combinio: sh ...bin
[04:52] <combinio> jhutchins: also wanna ask - where should install programs (*.bin) in future? in what path ?
[04:52] <combinio> ** what path ?
[04:53] <jhutchins> combinio: The real player bin installs itself correctly according to the linux file system hierachy standard - or whatever they call it.
[04:53] <jhutchins> combinio: Generally you want to avoid non-.deb packages as much as possible until you know the system well enoguh to know where things should go.
[04:53] <combinio> jhutchins: yes but it want to be install on Desktop? :|
[04:53] <jhutchins> combinio: That's ok for now - it's not the player, it's just an installer.
[04:54] <combinio> jhutchins: thanks for info :)
[04:54] <jhutchins> combinio: We all had to start somewhere <grin>
[04:54] <sayers> Is there a way to make a symbolic link via Interface?
[04:54] <mez_> anyone know a good network discovery tool?
[04:54] <combinio> jhutchins: very well said :D
[04:55] <mez_> ... all it needs to do is graphically show, which pcs and routers are active on my LAN, via eto)
[04:56] <BluesKaj> mez , what client are you using on the LAN , smb or ... ?
[04:56] <BluesKaj> I thought that konq would show the active pcs thru smb
[04:57] <patrick__> uhm.. i have open the console.. whats the first commands they i have to type in?
[04:57] <BluesKaj> patrick__, what are you trying to do ?
[04:58] <patrick__> to config kubuntu right
[04:58] <patrick__> i heard there is an command for updating ...
[04:59] <patrick__> and some others
[04:59] <BluesKaj> patrick__,  sudo apt-get update
[04:59] <patrick__> thats the command?
[04:59] <JimmyDee> the hundred or so people in #ubuntu-effects seem to be asleep, anyone doing compiz-fusion amd64 today?
[05:00] <BluesKaj> for updating the sources.list where the kubuntu applications can be installed from
[05:02] <combinio> jhutchins: crap! this is codecs fault! in realplayer there is no image only sound :/
[05:03] <broc93> hi all
[05:03] <broc93> I have a problem
[05:03] <broc93> can anyone help me?
[05:03] <combinio> but real player 10 works very well :D
[05:03] <combinio> !ask | broc93
[05:03] <emilsedgh> broc93: just ask
[05:03] <ubotu> broc93: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:03] <combinio> ( i love that command :D )
[05:03] <broc93> I want to enter in the Freenode network, but I can't do it.
[05:04] <broc93> I tried to connect to irc.eu.freenode.net
[05:04] <broc93> but I received an error message:
[05:04] <savetheWorld> broc93: you talking here means you are on freenode
[05:04] <broc93> [Error]  Connection to Server irc.eu.freenode.net lost: connection actively refused. Trying to reconnect.
[05:04] <BluesKaj> JimmyDee, I would try this tutorial , just substitute kubuntu for debian in the repos , i've heard that it works ...not absolutely sure but ....
[05:04] <BluesKaj> http://linuxized.blogspot.com/2007/08/how-to-debian-ati-xgl-compiz.html
[05:04] <broc93> savetheWorld: no, I'm on Ubuntu IRC
[05:05] <broc93>  I will try
[05:05] <jhutchins> broc93: No, you're on freenode.
[05:05] <broc93> just a second
[05:05] <broc93> ok
[05:05] <jhutchins> This IS Freenode!
[05:05] <broc93> Ok, ok
[05:05] <broc93> this is freenode perfect! thank u!
[05:20] <Schuenemann> does anyone use amule with kubuntu?
[05:24] <BluesKaj> Schuenemann, I've used amule, but there are lot of spam servers trying to get attn when you do a search , but it does work, just watch out for fake servers and fake files
[05:26] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, I was going to ask how to handle ed2k links, but I found it
[05:26] <Schuenemann> thanks :-)
[05:26] <Schuenemann> and yeah, that spam sucks
[05:28] <patrick__> how can i open ".bin" datas?
[05:29] <ubuntu_laptop> patrick__: you run .bins there might be another file that has info on it depends on what it is
[05:29] <emilsedgh> patrick__: cd path/to/dir
[05:29] <emilsedgh> patrick__: ./file.bin
[05:30] <patrick__> sry i dont understand... where i must type in in?
[05:30] <patrick__> *it in
[05:30] <emilsedgh> patrick__: konsole :)
[05:32] <patrick__> nothing happens
[05:32] <zaf1r0> ciao a tutti
[05:32] <zaf1r0> .-)
[05:33] <patrick__> ...kubuntu is difficul /:
[05:34] <kcg> hello there, is there a way that i can change the settings of flash in firefox again? i disabled it for some reason
[05:34] <kcg> and now its ignoring any link in flash in firefox
[05:34] <lnx_> how i can clear all the command that i have done in alt + f2 ?
[05:34] <BluesKaj> Schuenemann, personally i use KMLDonkey, it's bit more difficult to setup due to it's relatively bettter security than most p2p clients , but there's a decent tutorial on the website.
[05:35] <Schuenemann> kcg, are you using an extensions like flashblock or noscript?
[05:35] <kcg> Schuenemann, no, i am not using those extensions
[05:36] <kcg> i click on a flash advert (i want to), and then the yellow bar appears as usual, but somehow i clicked sth that disable the pop up forever it seemed
[05:36] <Schuenemann> as I know, firefox itself can't block flash... unless you changed something in about:config
[05:36] <Schuenemann> yellow bar? for flash?
[05:36] <Schuenemann> do you mean popup?
[05:36] <kcg> yea
[05:37] <kcg> basically, i click on a flash advert which was supposed to link me somewhere
[05:37] <Schuenemann> ediit > preferences > content
[05:38] <kcg> yes
[05:38] <kcg> but i don't want to disable the pop-up blocker, i want a warning to come up whenever i click a flash object that has a link with it
[05:40] <backtick> hi all, i have an Intel Wireless 3945ABG card on my laptop.. it shows up in lspci and the correct driver is loaded (reported by lsmod).. but it doesn't show up in iwconfig or in knetworkmanager.. i'm running kubuntu feisty.. any ideas?
[05:40] <kcg> Schuenemann, i got it now, changed the settings in about:config
[05:44] <jhutchins> backtick: Did you get the firmware for it?
[05:45] <backtick> jhutchins: no, i looked on the it's sourceforge website but i didn't read something about fireware.. where should i get this?
[05:45] <winbond> what does "Got signal 11 segmentation violation" mean?
[05:45] <backtick> s/fireware/firmware
[05:48] <mauri> how i can change mi prompt
[05:51] <jhutchins> !info bcm43xx-fwcutter
[05:51] <ubotu> bcm43xx-fwcutter: Utility for extracting Broadcom 43xx firmware. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:006-1 (feisty), package size 24 kB, installed size 116 kB
[05:51] <mauri> how i can change mi prompt
[05:51] <jhutchins> backtick: see above.
[05:55] <ubuntu> Good morning
[05:55] <BlueVette> I have a question for yall
[05:57] <BluesKaj> BlueVette, ask away
[05:57] <mauri> problem with the font in messenger
[05:57] <BlueVette> I'm running Tribe 5 of Kubuntu (LiveCD mode) and I've been impressed with the level of hardware compatibility thus far on this Del Inspiron 1420. (ICH8 chipset and X3100 gfx chips).  However, I'm not getting audio output.  Are there known issues with ich8(m) and tribe 5?
[05:58] <BluesKaj> !Gutsy
[05:58] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[05:58] <BlueVette> understood
[06:01] <backtick> aah turned out the firmware code is already installed but a "radio frequency kill switch" is turned on!
[06:02] <backtick> reported by /var/dmsg
[06:02] <backtick> * /var/log/..
[06:06] <tekstacy> 'lo all
[06:07] <zonk486> siemka!!
[06:07] <tekstacy> Any way to speed up the return from hibernate?
[06:08] <zonk486> do you know how change ubuntu to the Kubuntu
[06:08] <zonk486> ?
[06:09] <jiim> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?
[06:11] <robert__> kann mir jemand bei der einstellung einer netzwerkbrcke unter kubuntu helfen? hab's mit firestarter + forum leider nicht hinbekommen
[06:12] <Schuenemann> !de
[06:12] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:12] <robert__> thanks!
[06:16] <tuco> Hello all
[06:17] <tuco> I want to change the log in theme in KDM Theme Manager but don't know. I need help.
[06:30] <combinio> can someone help with :: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37610/   ?   :}
[06:32] <BluesKaj> combinio, do you have libdvdcss2 , libxine-extracodecs and w32codecs installed ?
[06:32] <combinio> let see...
[06:32] <combinio> ( probably yes but... )
[06:33] <gnomefreak> are you on 64bit by chance?
[06:33] <combinio> i386
[06:33] <gnomefreak> k
[06:33] <gnomefreak> than you are missing codecs although mplayer from repos shouldnt need w32codecs as most of them are built in
[06:33] <combinio> crap! libdvdcss2 & w32codecs were uninstalled ?!?! :O
[06:34] <combinio> but all movies were working :/
[06:34] <Dr_willis> i thought vlc had them built in. mplayer needed them.
[06:34] <gnomefreak> libdvdcss is needed for movies
[06:34] <combinio> i don't know how i missed it ?! :] 
[06:34] <Dr_willis> but its all mass confuseion. when in doubt install them all! :)
[06:35] <gnomefreak> ubuntu added decoder to mplayer that is not shipped with upstream iirc
[06:35] <combinio> huh... still no video with RMVB movie... only audio :}
[06:37] <notv> whats the ifconfig option to see the ip address? i cant scroll up to find it
[06:37] <notv> ifconfig spits out too much
[06:37] <gnomefreak> notv: try | less
[06:37] <JimmyDee> | more
[06:37] <gnomefreak> ifconfig | less
[06:37] <gnomefreak> or | more
[06:37] <notv> thanks
[06:38] <JimmyDee> more or less
[06:38] <TexJoachim> hi
[06:38] <JimmyDee> hey gnome, you into compiz?
[06:39] <TexJoachim> is there any way to make konqueror display the full path in the titlebar?
[06:39] <BluesKaj> combinio, libdvdcss2 is for playing commercial copyrighted dvd's on your pc/lappy.w32codecs is for windows media
[06:39] <combinio> BluesKaj: and RMVB are NOT windows format ??? :}
[06:40] <BluesKaj> Realmedia needs it's own player
[06:40] <JimmyDee> TexJoachim: umm mine does
[06:40] <combinio> BluesKaj: i see... so what player u prefer ? ;>
[06:40] <_osh> or try "ip addr show eth0". not that much less verbose, but atleast it's another way of doing it. =)
[06:40] <TexJoachim> JimmyDee: how so?
[06:40] <combinio> BluesKaj: but as i remember i've been watching earlier rmvb with totem
[06:40] <TexJoachim> mine only show the last folder name
[06:41] <JimmyDee> oh you want the filename too?
[06:41] <BluesKaj> I don't I very seldom encounter RM files so i haven't bothered , combinio
[06:41] <Dr_willis> Yea. realplayer/media sort of got knocked out of the game. :)
[06:41] <combinio> i see...
[06:41] <Biovore> rmvb works fine with mplayer
[06:41] <combinio> but before i used automatix and everyting worked:/ except operating system ;P
[06:41] <Biovore> !automatix
[06:41] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[06:42] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis, IMO realmedia tried to take over every aspect of media on ppls pc waay back and they got eliminated for their aggressive tactics
[06:42] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  yep. My thoughts EXACTLY.
[06:42] <combinio> is there possible to use same codecs which automatix uses ? ;>
[06:43] <TexJoachim> JimmyDee: no, I want the full path: /home/blabla/deep/in/here/is/the/folder/I'm/in
[06:43] <Dr_willis> combinio,  they are just grabbing the mplayer codecs from the mplayer site last i looked into automatix.
[06:43] <TexJoachim> I have several folders with the same names in various locations
[06:43] <combinio> Dr_willis: understood
[06:43] <TexJoachim> I have to have 3 konqui windows open with them
[06:44] <TexJoachim> So I have blabla, blabla (2) and blabla (3) in the taskbar
[06:44] <TexJoachim> but I want /home/...../blabla and /home/....../blabla there
[06:44] <pierre__kleb> t
[06:47] <JimmyDee> wish I could help but mine is showing /home/jimmydee when I'm in /home/jimmydee and I dont know how I made it that way
[06:47] <Dr_willis> I know how to do it for Terminal windows. :) just not Konqueror file manager windows.
[06:48] <combinio> crap! now every movie doesn't work ?! NOOOOOOOOOOO ! what the hell i did ?! :[
[06:49] <combinio> kaffeine shows no image - only sound :(((
[06:49] <Dr_willis> my Konqueror just shows the last dir in the path also.
[06:49] <BluesKaj> JimmyDee, when you typed in your username during the kubuntu install the /home/jimmydee file was auto-generated
[06:50] <Dr_willis> try a deeper directory  :)
[06:51] <BluesKaj> combinio, relogin
[06:51] <TexJoachim> JimmyDee: and you are using Feisty fawn?
[06:51] <combinio> i just did
[06:51] <combinio> ( also restart xy )
[06:51] <combinio> and no image :|
[06:51] <TexJoachim> JimmyDee: in the titlebar??? (not in the location bar)
[06:51] <notv> im getting MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC on start up. i tried adding # defoptions=noapic to /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:51] <combinio> maybe it happened thanks that w43codecs or libdvdcss2 ? ;>
[06:51] <notv> i still get the error, am i missing something?
[06:52] <BluesKaj> w32codecs i hope
[06:52] <combinio> - brb
[06:52] <Biovore> combinio: isntall libxine-extracodecs
[06:52] <Biovore> ?
[06:52] <notv> do i need to update grub and if so how do i do that
[06:53] <JuJuBee> I have a box with a public IP address on the internet.  I purchased a domain I wish to host on it.  What do I set the nameservers to ?
[06:53] <Biovore> notv: did you at that noapci to the end of the kernel configuration line in the configuration your using in grub?
[06:53] <Biovore> s/at/add
[06:54] <notv> yes i added it after # defoptions=quiet splash or something
[06:54] <Biovore> JuJuBee: depends.. how many IP's you got?
[06:54] <notv> where all the ## are in menu.lst
[06:54] <JuJuBee> I have only 1.
[06:54] <Dr_willis> notv,  after editing those you got to run update-grub I belive.
[06:54] <Biovore> well probably can't run your own dns then..
[06:54] <Biovore> need atleast 2
[06:55] <JuJuBee> Biovore : do I need to contact my internet provider then?
[06:55] <JuJuBee> Aske them to add my domain to their records?
[06:55] <Biovore> well you need to find somewhere to host your domain..
[06:55] <Biovore> probably the place you got your domain name from does this..
[06:56] <combo> Biovore: libxine-extracodecs are already installed
[06:56] <JuJuBee> I   wish to host on my server, not somewhere else.
[06:56] <Biovore> combo: what you using to watch the video.. and what kind of video is it?
[06:56] <Biovore> JuJuBee: you need to ips to do that..
[06:56] <JuJuBee> Bummer.
[06:57] <BluesKaj> combo, what are you trying tp play realmedia files, avi ,dvd .,what ?
[06:57] <combo> i prefer kaffeine... and now none of movies works - AVI, RMVB, MPG , etc. :/
[06:57] <Biovore> intressting.. xine but be broken in some fashion
[06:57] <combo> Biovore: how can i remove realplay.bin ?
[06:58] <Biovore> no clue.. you installed it..
[06:58] <combo> i installed it manually and now i regret - wana remove it now
[06:58] <combo> how can i do that ?
[06:58] <combo> Biovore: it worked just before
[06:58] <combo> but something crashed :{
[06:58] <notv> okay i update-grub and now the error goes away. is the timer error whats been giving me the black screens on startup?
[06:59] <Biovore> combo: basicly there are 2 options to remove the realplayer..  there is sometimes an uninstaller somewhere.. or you got to delete all the files it added.
[06:59] <combo> Biovore: right! :)
[06:59] <Biovore> notv: probably not.
[07:00] <BluesKaj> combo,installed manually , how combo , what kind of file ?
[07:00] <combo> BluesKaj: realplay10.bin
[07:00] <combo> just with sudo
[07:00] <Daisuke_Laptop> eww, and why?
[07:01] <Biovore> un-safe sex with binaries is how you get virus :-P
[07:02] <combo> Biovore: virus ?! under linux!? u're kidding me ?! :)
[07:02] <combo> it was downloaded from official site real.com/linux :P
[07:02] <Biovore> well its possible..  you did run this unknown binary as root.
[07:02] <combo> Biovore: it was NOT unknown ;P
[07:02] <Biovore> you sure..  real and sony do weird stuff :-P
[07:02] <combo> but what such virus can do ? :)
[07:03] <helpme> how is it possibile to chage the prompt in a shell
[07:03] <combo> Biovore: ohh... so maybe my movies don't work anymore :[
[07:03] <Biovore> combo: anything of the person how is running it.. "sudo -> root so anything"
[07:03] <Biovore> if thats the case..
[07:03] <Biovore> probably not though..
[07:03] <Biovore> there are only 2 recorded linux bugs out there..
[07:03] <combo> Biovore: but give some example ANY ?
[07:03] <combo> delete /home/user files ? :] 
[07:04] <combo> or what ?
[07:04] <Biovore> delete anything
[07:04] <combo> kind of troyans ? ;>
[07:04] <Biovore> change anything
[07:04] <combo> Biovore: CRAP :[
[07:04] <combo> don't scarry me :P
[07:04] <Biovore> you a binary a root.. it has full priviliges
[07:04] <Daisuke_Laptop> 2 recorded linux bugs?
[07:04] <combo> this file was called 'RealPlayer10GOLD.bin'
[07:04] <Biovore> well trojins
[07:04] <Daisuke_Laptop> combo: again...  why?
[07:04] <combo> i though it is savee :)
[07:04] <Biovore> but I doubt thats the case here..
[07:05] <combo> Daisuke_Laptop: what why ? :)
[07:05] <Biovore> well it should be..
[07:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> just...  why?
[07:05] <Biovore> but the thing about close source is.. you don't know..
[07:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> realplayer.
[07:05] <combo> what u mean why ? :)
[07:05] <combo> Daisuke_Laptop: what why ?
[07:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> i would think that was clear
[07:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> why realplayer?
[07:05] <Biovore> mplayer plays realplayer stuff just fine..
[07:06] <combo> i dont like real player - just wanted to watch my RMVB movies :P
[07:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> so use vlc
[07:06] <Biovore> vlc works as well
[07:06] <combo> i prefer kaffeine :))
[07:06] <Biovore> kaffeine is just a front end..
[07:06] <Biovore> I think it can uses other backends
[07:06] <combo> someone told me here that realplayer is ONLY 'reader' RVMB movies (?)
[07:06] <Biovore> nope..
[07:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> realplayer has been garbage since it was introduced in the 90's, what makes you think they've changed?
[07:07] <Biovore> I use mplayer all the time for realplayer rmvb's
[07:07] <combo> i don't know too much about that
[07:07] <combo> have NOT big knowledge
[07:07] <combo> someone advised me that program
[07:07] <combo> eee... who was that
[07:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> i'd like to know who here recommended realplayer, of all things...
[07:07] <combo> hj... someone :D
[07:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> that's just colossally retarded
[07:08] <combo> i'll get that guy
[07:08] <BluesKaj> what's this about 'sudo ./filename.bin' being an unsafe way to install files in linux ?
[07:08] <combo> hj.... :D can't remember now
[07:08] <Biovore> BluesKaj: well if your unsure about the .bin it is..
[07:08] <combo> BluesKaj: also don't know :P
[07:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> mostly you would have to sudo to install (/usr isn't writable by normal users)
[07:08] <combo> but i would trust to those well educated guys ;P
[07:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> but...  REALPLAYER :(
[07:09] <combo> Daisukeok, understood
[07:09] <Daisuke_Laptop> combo: this is NOTHING against you, you followed advice you were given in good faith, you're okay
[07:09] <Biovore> when I do stuff like that. I have a directory in /opt the +rwx for everyone, I just install it in there..
[07:09] <Biovore> as my user
[07:10] <Daisuke_Laptop> Biovore: a typical ubuntian isn't going to think of that, though
[07:10] <Daisuke_Laptop> ...i didn't :\
[07:10] <Biovore> true.. the typical ubuntian probably can use a shell eather..
[07:10] <BluesKaj> Is it cuz the file is already compiled and we're merely executing the installer , so linux has permissions already granted with sudo to install whatever evil lurks in the app/file
[07:11] <combo> may i remove all of this (whereis realplay) :: /usr/bin/realplay /usr/lib/realplay /usr/X11R6/bin/realplay /usr/bin/X11/realplay /usr/share/realplay
[07:11] <rickey> i have kubuntu 7.04 i am on line with it now ,but the seach engien wont work with konqueror
[07:11] <combo> ??
[07:11] <felipe_> hi, anyone know what happens if i install ubuntu-desktop in kubuntu? i know that it'll install gnome but... i'll use kdm or gdm?
[07:11] <combo> i mean remove all of this manually ?
[07:12] <Biovore> rickey: what search engine?
[07:12] <rickey> google
[07:12] <Daisuke_Laptop> felipe_: it'll ask you
[07:12] <Biovore> felipe_: it will ask.. do it from the command line..
[07:12] <combo> Daisuke_Laptop: u should know - may i remove all those files/dirs connected with realplay MANUALLY ?? it is: /usr/bin/realplay /usr/lib/realplay /usr/X11R6/bin/realplay /usr/bin/X11/realplay /usr/share/realplay
[07:13] <combo> Daisuke_Laptop: or better no, cuz something bad might happen ;P
[07:13] <combo> ?
[07:13] <rickey> what do i need to check to make sure the seach works
[07:14] <combo> Daisuke_Laptop: ok anyway. i'm removing it on my own ;P
[07:14] <rickey> what do i need to look for?
[07:16] <rickey> Biovore  you still with me
[07:17] <draik> K9Copy seems to freeze. Is there an alternative app?
[07:18] <draik> Also, what is the alternative to m$ Money?
[07:18] <melkor> Good morning, I'm looking for some advice about playing x-mplayer radio broadcasts with linuxj.
[07:18] <melkor> err linux
[07:19] <rickey> how do you make sure the seach engen on konquror is configured rigth?
[07:20] <rickey> address line and google /ect
[07:22] <felipe_> Daisuke_Laptop, Biovore: thanks
[07:22] <felipe_> i'll install it... but if i wanna change between kmg and gdm? :/
[07:23] <rickey> An error occurred while loading http://www.kde.org):
[07:23] <rickey> Could not connect to host http://www.kde.org)/.
[07:24] <rickey> what would cause this ?
[07:24] <melkor> the parethensi
[07:24] <cloakable> Indeed
[07:25] <rickey> what do i check and ware do i check
[07:25] <cloakable> rickey: http://www.kde.org
[07:26] <rickey> and what do i check for?
[07:26] <SlimeyPete> rickey: delete the )
[07:26] <rickey> ooooooooooooooooooo ok
[07:26] <SlimeyPete> http://www.kde.org)  <-- should be http://www.kde.org
[07:26] <hydrogen> no
[07:26] <hydrogen> it should be www.kde.org
[07:27] <melkor> why do radio stations broadcast over microsoft protocals only.
[07:27] <hydrogen> because open source protocols are not supposed by windows media players
[07:27] <hydrogen> and are really low end
[07:27] <hydrogen> icecast fex
[07:29] <melody> question. I try to run adept package manager and it keeps coming back saying that the system database is in use. (this is from a fresh reboot). and when I tell it to fix the problem, it crashes. Any tips?
[07:30] <melkor> There is a file you need to remove.
[07:30] <melkor> though its been awhile since I had to do it.
[07:33] <rickey> An error occurred while loading http://www.kde.org/:
[07:33] <rickey> Could not connect to host http://www.kde.org/.
[07:33] <fester> How do you create a desktop icon for a non-Kubuntu app?
[07:33] <rickey> there,s got to be something wrong somewhere elas
[07:34] <rickey> where elas could it be messed up?
[07:35] <sredna> is there a waya to install the qt demo app in kubuntu? (qt4)
[07:42] <melkor> rickey did you click the link that somebody posted here.
[07:43] <melkor> fetster you have to find where the binary file you execute is located.
[07:43] <melkor> like i use mpg321, so I could type locate mpg321
[07:45] <melkor> peace
[07:46] <Doctor_Nick> somehow i turned off key repeating
[07:46] <Doctor_Nick> how do i turn it back on =/
[07:46] <draik> melkor
[07:47] <Alron> Any version of Kubuntu that I can use as a home-server, and also has X-windows?
[07:48] <sredna> hm, what version is the currently stable one?
[07:48] <Jayton> Hey, how can i switch between Ubuntu and Kubuntu?
[07:48] <sredna> should i update from feisty -> gutsy?
[07:48] <Doctor_Nick> gutsy isnt out until next month
[07:48] <sredna> Jayton: log into something else than kde :)
[07:48] <sredna> Doctor_Nick: ty :)
[07:49] <Jayton> oh, ok. thx :)
[07:49] <Jayton> <- let's try
[07:52] <hydrogen> !info qt
[07:52] <ubotu> Package qt does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[07:52] <hydrogen> !info libqt4
[07:53] <ubotu> Package libqt4 does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[07:53] <hydrogen> !info libqt4-core
[07:53] <ubotu> libqt4-core: Qt 4 core non-GUI functionality runtime library. In component main, is optional. Version 4.2.3-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 1177 kB, installed size 3088 kB
[07:55] <xp_killer> !botsnack
[07:55] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[07:55] <hydrogen> !info libqt4-core feisty-backports
[07:55] <ubotu> libqt4-core: Qt 4 core non-GUI functionality runtime library. In component main, is optional. Version 4.3.0-4ubuntu1~feisty1 (feisty-backports), package size 1634 kB, installed size 4840 kB
[07:56] <draik> Is there a way to view/copy the manual contents? I want to have something which I can use/view freely at home/work/etc
[08:17] <coreymon77> ScorpKing: have fun killing yourself
[08:18] <garfield> lol
[08:18] <ScorpKing> yip, if i have to wait for someone else i might wait forever. lol
[08:18] <coreymon77> ScorpKing: make sure to tell us when the lung cancer hits
[08:19] <ScorpKing> you'll be the first to know. :P
[08:20] <Level15> has anyone managed to get a logitech webcam of driver uvcvideo to work woth kopete?
[08:20] <Level15> *with
[08:20] <MetaMorfoziS> Level15 > kopete can'T handle that, that1s in the manual somewhere
[08:21] <MetaMorfoziS> somewhere in the supported apps lists'
[08:21] <Level15> MetaMorfoziS: kopete's manual?
[08:21] <MetaMorfoziS> but with lucview or wtf it's working
[08:21] <MetaMorfoziS> no
[08:21] <Level15> lucview works, yes
[08:21] <slobodan> hi there!... Does anyone know how to disable icon animations in Konqueror when you click on them?
[08:21] <MetaMorfoziS> i can't remember, somewhere in uvc setup howto or in spca5xxx dunno.
[08:22] <MetaMorfoziS> but i remember, it isn't work with kopete.
[08:22] <Level15> MetaMorfoziS: ok, so basicallly, it DOES NOT work, period?
[08:22] <MetaMorfoziS> yes.
[08:22] <Level15> :(
[08:22] <Level15> i guess i'll have to keep rebooting then
[08:22] <MetaMorfoziS> ok
[08:23] <Level15> ok, question no. 2. I have a bluetooth headset, how do i get it to work with kopete?
[08:24] <Level15> how do i pair it and the stuff?
[08:24] <slobodan> anyone?
[08:25] <bigleon> Hello people
[08:25] <ScorpKing> helo bigleon
[08:25] <Level15> slobodan:
[08:26] <Level15> slobodan: somewhere in kcontrol
[08:26] <bigleon>  Level15 are you same as Level1 guy with Insppiron E1705?
[08:26] <Level15> bigleon: no
[08:26] <slobodan> Nope... looked for it but nothing in connection with that
[08:26] <Level15> but i've seen him here :)
[08:26] <Level15> i got an xps m1210
[08:26] <bigleon> Level15 XD it was worth asking
[08:27] <bigleon> I'm trying to figure out how to make my ATI work better
[08:27] <Level15> slodoban you mean bouncing icon when launching app/file? or what exactly?
[08:27] <bigleon> It seems reallly crapy on Open GL
[08:27] <Level15> bigleon: AFAiK, ATI is evil...
[08:27] <bigleon> Well there isn't much i can do in a laptop...
[08:28] <Level15> bigleon: i know... that's one of the reasons why I chose mine... decent video card
[08:28] <slobodan> No...not the bouncing icon with cursor but when you click on some icon in Konqueror icons goes bigger into your face
[08:29] <Level15> lol
[08:30] <bigleon> Well when i was video gaming on windows, it was wonderful
[08:30] <Level15> slobodan: try unchecking Visual feedback on activation from Peripherals ->Mouse
[08:30] <bigleon> X1400 Radeon Mobility
[08:31] <bigleon> Woo i like this feature in Amarok Fetching my  Album covers
[08:32] <Level15> Amarok is nice
[08:32] <bigleon> Took me a while to stop it from crashing XD
[08:32] <bigleon> It was having a bit adjusting from 73 songs to 1800 songs it went stupid trying to update it self
[08:33] <slobodan> Thats it!... Thanks Level15!
[08:33] <Doctor_Nick> :O
[08:34] <Level15> slobodan: no problem
[08:35] <bigleon> is ogg or mp3 format better?
[08:35] <Level15> ogg
[08:35] <bigleon> whats the difference?
[08:35] <Level15> better compression and is *truly* free
[08:35] <bigleon> i never realized an mp3 "cost"
[08:36] <NightBird> bigleon: most companies hide it
[08:36] <bigleon> you mean with the "DRM
[08:36] <Level15> downside is that most portable audio players don't support it
[08:36] <NightBird> most mp3 players have to license the mp3 decoder
[08:36] <bigleon> Wow... lame XD
[08:36] <Level15> bigleon: why do you think ubuntu, suse, redhat don't include mp3 support?
[08:36] <NightBird> yeah... technically flac is better due to having perfect audio, but the files tend to be 4x bigger
[08:36] <bigleon> I remeber reading about it, but no i wasn't sure
[08:37] <Level15> NightBird: 4x? i thought it was more like 10x
[08:37] <NightBird> Level15: in my experience it's been closer to 4x
[08:37] <bigleon> O_O, speaking of compressions where do i look for packages i got in adept that don't show up in my applications thing
[08:37] <bigleon> I grabbed this mp3 to ogg converter
[08:38] <paul_> hi all
[08:38] <paul_> can someone help me i cant figure how to install flash player
[08:39] <Level15> paul_: 64 bits?
[08:39] <paul_> 32
[08:39] <bigleon> sudo apt-get install flashplayer
[08:39] <paul_> i have rpm file
[08:39] <Level15> paul_: then you should just be able to get it with aptitude
[08:39] <Level15> or whatever
[08:39] <Level15> paul_: ewww
[08:39] <Level15> get rid of it!
[08:39] <bigleon> rofl level15
[08:39] <Level15> it's just disgusting!
[08:40] <Level15> gross
[08:40] <Level15> XD
[08:40] <paul_> adept manager?
[08:40] <Level15> yes
[08:40] <bigleon> i'll be back
[08:40] <What_the_Deuce> Hi all. anyone have Ubuntu on an HP pavillion, 6000 series. I'm having trouble loading up the live cd, and the only reason i can think of is because it has a SATA hdd
[08:40] <Level15> make sure all repositories are active
[08:40] <broc93_> I have a question:I want to know if there is a "safe remove hardware" on kubuntu
[08:41] <Level15> What_the_Deuce: live cd does not need an hd, so i don't think so
[08:41] <Level15> What_the_Deuce: most live cd not booting issues are related to graphics card
[08:41] <What_the_Deuce> Level15: the error that comes up is "ata 1 too slow to respond" which seems odd to me
[08:42] <Level15> What_the_Deuce: migth be also your cd/dvd drive
[08:42] <Level15> What_the_Deuce: but yes, it's odd
[08:42] <What_the_Deuce> Level15: its an nvidia card, so there shouldn't be a problem
[08:42] <kkathman> greetings folks :)
[08:43] <paul_> forgive me
[08:43] <paul_> im totally new to linux
[08:44] <martin_> Hi guys
[08:44] <fiber0pti> I'm trying to install kubuntu on a machine and I keep getting port open errors on ata2. I've installed other flavors of linux on the same machine without problem, any ideas?
[08:44] <martin_> I have a little problem with my desktops
[08:44] <What_the_Deuce> Level15: i don't see how it could be the cd drive, if the same error occurs on a desktop, with a SATA hdd
[08:44] <martin_> I have 12 desktops but I configured 1
[08:44] <martin_> Why?
[08:44] <martin_> Anybody can help to me?
[08:45] <fiber0pti> the first error while trying to install is "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"
[08:45] <Level15> What_the_Deuce: well, i have a sata disk here and i installed kubuntu with no problems, so it's nut b/c the disk is sata
[08:45] <sbucat_> martin_: cofigured explain better
[08:45] <sbucat_> *configured
[08:45] <What_the_Deuce> level15: you think booting in safe GFX might help?
[08:45] <garfield> martin_: go in destop system-setting to put one
[08:46] <What_the_Deuce> Level15: nevermind...
[08:46] <Level15> What_the_Deuce: no...
[08:46] <Level15> What_the_Deuce: the error is not graphics related...
[08:46] <Level15> What_the_Deuce: is it a very new laptop? perhaps no nice dirvers for your particular ATA controller
[08:47] <xinuc>  martin_: do you use beryl??
[08:47] <What_the_Deuce> Level15: its a year old, ish
[08:47] <Level15> What_the_Deuce: strange... is the cd/dvd drive in good shape?
[08:47] <martin_> did you see when you add desktops well I have configured 1 desktop and appear 12 desktop on the bar of Kubuntu
[08:48] <What_the_Deuce> Level15: fine, apparently
[08:48] <What_the_Deuce> Level15: on windows it loads disks with no problem
[08:48] <Level15> what abt the linux cd? is it fine?
[08:49] <What_the_Deuce> Aye, official Kubuntu disk
[08:49] <xinuc> martin_ : do you use beryl?? you can try to turn it off and restart your x
[08:49] <Level15> What_the_Deuce: then sorry, dunno that to tell you
[08:49] <What_the_Deuce> Level15: thats ok
[08:49] <martin_> yes I'm using beryl
[08:49] <xinuc> you can try to turn it off and restart your x
[08:51] <What_the_Deuce> Out of interest, did anyone elses compiz-fusion break after the recent update?
[08:51] <What_the_Deuce> I had to purge/reinstall mine..
[08:52] <fiber0pti> I'm trying to install kubuntu with the live cd. It seems I have the same error that happens at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=279884. How do I get into grub if I can't even boot from the cd?
[08:55] <bigleon> Question, if my  OpenGL screen savers are typically laggy and low quality, is it a bad idea to get compiz?
[08:55] <bigleon> Goodmorning Bluekaj
[08:55] <garfield> bigleon: very bad
[08:56] <bigleon> Gah i got a nice new comp :( i need to know how to make my vid card work better
[08:56] <bigleon> i got radeon x1400
[08:56] <bigleon> i download fglrx just to get it to work
[08:56] <BluesKaj> hmm, thought I'd try out gnome-desktop , but now ..how do i unstall it . I tried removing ubuntu-desktop ,and it seemed to work but unfortunately not.
[08:56] <garfield> fiber0pti: can u at least check the cd for errors?
[08:57] <fiber0pti> lemme try
[08:57] <NightBird> bigleon: the update next month may help you quite a bit
[08:57] <bigleon> NightBird next month comes out 7.10 right?
[08:57] <BluesKaj> hi bigleon
[08:57] <winbond> im trying to update gutsy, the  libpam0g says some services need to be restarted, when i hit next, it restarts the services, then hangs on loading startup scripts? wtf?
[08:58] <NightBird> bigleon: no, I mean the 8.42 ati driver
[08:58] <bigleon> Oh lol XD
[08:58] <bigleon> well whats this "emerald" thing i hear people with X1400 should run it
[08:58] <xp_killer> mmm
[08:58] <fiber0pti> garfield: can't check it.. trys to load kubuntu just the same and I still get the same error
[08:59] <coreymon77> windbond, gutsy support is in #ubuntu+1
[08:59] <NightBird> bigleon: that's the beryl screen decorator
[08:59] <coreymon77> winbond: not here
[08:59] <NightBird> bigleon: beryl supports a lot of the same things as compiz
[08:59] <bigleon> oh NightBird lol, So atm there isn't anything i can do
[08:59] <bigleon> to get better use out of my vid card?
[09:00] <NightBird> bigleon: well.... pretty much.... wait a month, ati is adding support for the older video cards for their new driver which runs a lot better, plus aiglx support, which will let you run beryl and compiz without using the gl X server, which is a good thing
[09:01] <coreymon77> bigleon: there is something you can do
[09:01] <coreymon77> bigleon: get a nvidia card
[09:01] <coreymon77> bigleon: they support linux! :P
[09:01] <bigleon> Well my video card isn't old XD
[09:01] <NightBird> coreymon77: actually, that's started to change... with the release of the specs on their video cards, ati/amd is doing a lot to fix up their linux situation
[09:02] <coreymon77> bigleon: ya but ati acts like a little stubborn 2 year old when it comes to linux support
[09:02] <combinio> !codecs
[09:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:03] <coreymon77> NightBird: if you want good linux support, its still better to get an nvidia, you have got to agree with me on tat
[09:03] <bigleon> will this driver work for me? http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html
[09:04] <NightBird> coreymon77: for now, sure... but the AMD open source drivers will be seeing a big improvement due to having the specs on the cards, plus their are massive improvements coming to the fglrx driver
[09:05] <NightBird> I think, ati will be a reasonable choice in the near future for linux support
[09:05] <coreymon77> NightBird: it will take a while to catch up
[09:05] <xp_killer> fiber0pti: how many hdd's and disk reader u have in your pc?
[09:06] <fiber0pti> I have one HDD, floppy and cd drive
[09:06] <NightBird> coreymon77: the 8.41 on the video cards it supports shows performance comparable to the nvidia cards
[09:06] <coreymon77> xp_killer: and this matters because?
[09:06] <coreymon77> NightBird: sure, on the video cards it supports
[09:06] <coreymon77> NightBird: how many is that?
[09:07] <NightBird> coreymon77: the 500/600 series
[09:07] <coreymon77> NightBird: im not saying that it wont eventually become comparable
[09:07] <NightBird> next month will go back to supporting all of their current cards
[09:07] <NightBird> and, while I'm running a video card this driver doesn't support, I still saw a big improvement as well
[09:07] <coreymon77> NightBird: but as of yet, there are not enough cards that are supported like that
[09:08] <xp_killer> coreymon77: sometimes it matters if u have to many hdd's and disk reader
[09:08] <coreymon77> xp_killer: i dont see anything in the backlog
[09:09] <xp_killer> coreymon77: http://blog.shevin.info/2007/04/how-did-i-fix-cant-acess-tty-in-feisty.html
[09:09] <coreymon77> okay'
[09:10] <bigleon> That driver link i posted is that any good
[09:11] <rickey> this new kubuntu is pretty neat
[09:12] <rickey>  i kinda like it
[09:12] <rickey> what do you guy,s think of 7.04
[09:12] <NightBird> 7.04?  it's pretty nice...
[09:13] <NightBird> I'll probably update to 7.10 next month though
[09:13] <rickey> what program do you use for yahoo live chatrooms
[09:13] <NightBird> I don't
[09:14] <bigleon> lol
[09:14] <uga> uhm, lets burn the CD...
[09:14] <uga> feisty CDs are also live CDs, right?
[09:14] <uga> I need to carry one to the shop to test the box before I take it home
[09:15] <rickey> anyone here use pal talk
[09:16] <combinio> how can i mount an *.iso CD-image ?? :] 
[09:16] <bigleon> nope rickey
[09:16] <uga> combinio: mount -l loop ....
[09:16] <bigleon> you might want to look into wine to get your old stuff working
[09:17] <uga> combinio: sorry, -o loop
[09:17] <combinio> uga: mount: can't find /home/combo/Downloads/Praetorians/Praetorians.iso in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[09:17] <uga> combinio: you need to give it the mount point too
[09:17] <combinio> uga: i changed dir
[09:17] <combinio> uga: how to ? ;>
[09:18] <uga> combinio: mount -o loop kubuntu-7.04-desktop-amd64.iso /mnt
[09:18] <uga> for example
[09:18] <uga> the iso file, and the destination
[09:18] <uga> uhm, can't anybody confirm that feisty CDs are live CDs too?
[09:19] <bigleon> dl it and find out uga, i'm not 100 pct sure. but i think so
[09:19] <combinio> uga: haha it works :D:D
[09:19] <combinio> uga: thanks a lot ;)
[09:19] <bigleon> they should like say "live Cd" i'd asume
[09:19] <uga> bigleon: I have it downloaded, but it's not tagged as live CD, it's the 64 bit version and my localhost is 32 bit right now
[09:20] <uga> so obviously I cannot test it
[09:20] <bigleon> XD
[09:20] <uga> I'm not a lazy person, just cannot tell =)
[09:20] <bigleon> Doesn't dl area say?
[09:21] <sportbilly> i have problem with the cubes in beryl anyone who knows?
[09:21] <uga> bigleon: nothing
[09:21] <NickPresta> !ask | sportbilly
[09:21] <ubotu> sportbilly: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:21] <uga> nobody has installed feisty here? =)))
[09:21] <uga> what do you guys use gentoo? :P
[09:21] <bigleon> i use 7.04 fiesty
[09:21] <bigleon> but 32bit
[09:21] <xp_killer> feisty
[09:22] <uga> bigleon: ok, and you installed using one of these CDs... didn't it boot to a desktop before you installed?
[09:22] <uga> that's all I need to know
[09:22] <bigleon> Yup
[09:22] <bigleon> well i had to install a vid driver
[09:22] <bigleon> before gui loaded
[09:22] <uga> okay, thanks then, it's a live CD =)
[09:22] <bigleon> but yeah
[09:22] <uga> I need to carry it to the shop. it's a self-built PC, so I need to know it works before I take it out...
[09:22] <NickPresta> !info gimp
[09:22] <ubotu> gimp: The GNU Image Manipulation Program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.13-1ubuntu4.3 (feisty), package size 2901 kB, installed size 7920 kB
[09:23] <bigleon> I gots gimp hehehe
[09:24] <combinio> uga: and if i want to remove mounted folder (from *.iso image) - how can do that ? :] 
[09:24] <uga> sudo su
[09:24] <combinio> uga: it says: ' Read-only file system '
[09:24] <uga> combinio: umount /mnt or wherever you installed it
[09:24] <combinio> ah
[09:25] <bigleon> Ahh i always got issues with jumpdrives going "read only" on me
[09:25] <uga> combinio: uh, ignore that sudo su. I thought I was on a terminal  =)
[09:25] <bigleon> Rofl
[09:25] <uga> stupid irc clients that look like erminals.. .:P
[09:25] <bigleon> Rofl, i got mine iwht black bg and white font lmao
[09:26] <w0nder> is the only difference between kubuntu and ubuntu just the desktop??
[09:26] <bigleon> I try to make everything look terminal ish because alot of kids i know can't tell diference from normal stuff and what looks like haking on tv lol
[09:26] <w0nder> all other functionality is the same?
[09:26] <combinio> uga: big thanks for teaching *.iso how-to :P
[09:26] <bigleon> w0nder i'd sayy for most part
[09:27] <bigleon> w0nder kubuntu looks better i'd say, then again i hate mac and last i knew gnome looked alot like mac
[09:27] <uga> combinio: no problem. About the "read only" don't worry, yes. You're not alowed to modify an iso CD after mounted. I believe there was a workaround, but I cannot recall how...
[09:27] <w0nder> bigleon: well i definitely think kde is better than gnome.. but ubuntu is easier all around.. just want to make sure kubuntu's 'backend' is ubuntu or whatever
[09:27] <w0nder> i basically want ubuntu with a kde :)
[09:27] <bigleon> kubuntu seems easier to me then kde
[09:28] <w0nder> bluetooth?
[09:28] <bigleon> wow that didn't make sense
[09:28] <w0nder> that's my hangup right now
[09:28] <uga> w0nder: it is. The same kernels and libs but a different desktop
[09:28] <w0nder> no it didnt but thats ok
[09:28] <w0nder> ok
[09:28] <w0nder> perfect
[09:28] <w0nder> thanks
[09:28] <uga> bigleon: that doesn't make sense. kubuntu uses kde ;)
[09:28] <w0nder> next question
[09:28] <bigleon> uga i was having a moment with my love for kde
[09:28] <uga> hehe
[09:29] <w0nder> i need an alternate cd because the installer won't launch on the desktop on the livecd
[09:29] <bigleon> this is what i get for over sleeping and missing lunch
[09:29] <w0nder> im not seeing one though...
[09:29] <xinuc> roberto : hello bro
[09:29] <uga> bigleon: heh, nice party last night? :P
[09:29] <bigleon> uga no... just that i was watching movies clear into early hours
[09:29] <uga> oh heh
[09:30] <bigleon> i would of preffered a party
[09:30] <bigleon> but then i woulda been off my game, missed breakfast and a hangover which sounds like a nitemare
[09:31] <w0nder> lubuntu alternate cd??
[09:31] <w0nder> lol kubuntu
[09:34] <tjduavis> good afternoon everybody
[09:34] <bigleon> how was lunch kaj
[09:37] <ScorpKing> good evening guys. i've set power manager to shut down my laptop when the battery time is 5min. is there a way i can make it warn me 2 minutes or so before it just shuts my laptop down?
[09:38] <ScorpKing> hey bigleon. started on the theme yet?
[09:40] <bigleon> ScorpKing actually I got drafted into team for working on MMO's storyline
[09:41] <ScorpKing> lol.
[09:41] <bigleon> Well it was easy, it's using a story i had written a few months back so most of ground work is done
[09:42] <ScorpKing> that's great. need any help with a few cursors?
[09:42] <uga> uhm, this willl be fun... I need to clone the current 32 bit machine in the 64bit machine (re install all packs). Any tricks/ideas/hints?
[09:42] <dsmith_> is there a god duplicate file checker for kde?
[09:42] <dsmith_> *god
[09:42] <dsmith_> *good
[09:42] <bigleon> Well i'm waiting on next weeks driver release for ati. then i'll start so i can use all the cool features of open GL
[09:43] <bigleon> well you can use your eyes dsmith
[09:43] <dsmith_> haha
[09:43] <bigleon> i gotta go through my folders sometime today or tommrow and do it
[09:43] <paul_> hi
[09:44] <dsmith_> 120 gb worth fo files
[09:44] <dsmith_> with duplicates of various dates
[09:44] <paul_> anyone in here use wine
[09:44] <dsmith_> :P
[09:44] <bigleon> Well you better get a few cups of coffees
[09:44] <ScorpKing> bigleon: i might be able to make some of the cursors for you if needed. just mail me a few ideas. :)
[09:44] <kim_> Hello =)
[09:44] <dsmith_> hi
[09:44] <kim_> Anyone know if you can get KDE lighter than xfce?
[09:44] <dsmith_> I want a program not coffees
[09:44] <bigleon> Scorpking, like lil mini grim reapers dudes for various things and maybe a Gothic Time glass would be sweet
[09:44] <dsmith_> kim_:  Hmm?
[09:45] <dsmith_> kim_: oh, Ummm I am not sure
[09:45] <bigleon> I love it when people ask to make it lighter, i just wana say. "Take him to the gym"
[09:45] <uga> kim_: that's like asking how to make a bmw smaller than a mini
[09:45] <kim_> lol :P
[09:45] <bigleon> rofl uga
[09:46] <dsmith_> you would have to rebuild the kde package
[09:46] <ScorpKing> bigleon: i'll look around. :)
[09:46] <dsmith_> and toss out alot of things
[09:46] <kim_> but is it realy... I've been trying KDE for a while (realy like most apps), but its slightly heavier than XFCE, not much though, what can I do to bring memory usage down?
[09:46] <bigleon> well you can always get more memory kim? I use 2gb's and it runs really nice fast
[09:46] <dsmith_> linux will use the full amout of your ram
[09:46] <paul_> anyone in here using wine
[09:47] <bigleon> I tried to use wine but it never seems to work for me paul_
[09:47] <kim_> dsmith_, I suppose thats an option, although it would feel more work it to wait for KDE4 :P (lighter... if I'm not misstaken)
[09:47] <dsmith_> i have 2gb as well
[09:47] <bigleon> it might load the file and then it crashes when i try anything else
[09:47] <kim_> dsmith_, I have 256, I need to keep usage down
[09:47] <paul_> 640 mb ram
[09:47] <dsmith_> what version
[09:47] <ScorpKing> i have 320MB
[09:48] <dsmith_> 6.06
[09:48] <bigleon> wow 256... thats like rideculously small XD
[09:48] <dsmith_> you need at least 512
[09:48] <paul_> i find tons of ram
[09:48] <paul_> here in buffalo
[09:48] <paul_> ny
[09:48] <dsmith_> newegg
[09:48] <kim_> bigleon, as far as I know its practically impossible to get more ram for this motherboard. I'm saving up for a completely new desktop
[09:48] <paul_> i find towers every week
[09:49] <bigleon> lmao that old?
[09:49] <dsmith_> kim_: look at the pentium3 on ebay
[09:49] <paul_> pentium 3 an p2 mostly
[09:49] <dsmith_> i bought 10 puters for 50
[09:49] <kim_> I cant say how old it is exactly... It was given to me :P
[09:49] <paul_> got hugh collection of cd burners
[09:49] <BluesKaj> bigleon, I'm running 1G Ram but htop shows less than 20% most of the time so 256 isn't too low if used judiciously
[09:49] <paul_> cd roms
[09:50] <dsmith_> I have 5 hp burners fo free
[09:50] <paul_> i take to salvation army
[09:50] <kim_> Btw, a completely unrelated question. Would installing a new (old) harddrive and moving my swap to that increase my performance?
[09:50] <bigleon> i run about 512 out of my 2gb's XD
[09:50] <paul_> i keep all pci network cards
[09:51] <paul_> one of 2 isa network cards
[09:51] <dsmith_> kim_: possibly
[09:51] <uga> okay, after fiddling a bit with a ubuntu hint that had buggy cloning instructions... I got a list of packs to install: dpkg --get-selections | grep 'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=:space:install$' | awk '{print $1}' > installedpackages
[09:51] <kim_> dsmith_, my swap is constantly used and I feel like I'm not getting everything out of my current drive
[09:51] <paul_> one or 2 isa video cards
[09:52] <uga> now I need to fix those to point to 64 bit packages. kernels etc
[09:52] <paul_> all agp an pci
[09:52] <dsmith_> kim_: if thats the case then #1 you dont have enough ram
[09:52] <uga> anyone knwos if the 64 bit packs use the same naming?
[09:52] <bigleon> uga notta-a-clue
[09:52] <kim_> dsmiith_, I am painfully aware of that already...
[09:52] <paul_> then i put them in box an send them out
[09:52] <dsmith_> then your limitation is drive throughput
[09:52] <kim_> drive throughput?
[09:52] <paul_> it cost 9 bucks flat box
[09:52] <dsmith_> read/write speed
[09:53] <uga> oh, something went wrong with the paste before: dpkg --get-selections | grep 'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=:space:install$' | awk '{print $1}' > installedpackages
[09:53] <uga> wtf
[09:53] <dsmith_> adding another drive may or maynot work
[09:53] <uga> when pasting... do you also see http://en...?
[09:53] <uga> that's NOT what I'm typing ;)
[09:53] <kim_> ah, so I imagined. I'll dry adding another drive... cant realy hurt
[09:53] <dsmith_> no it won't , see what it does
[09:54] <dsmith_> I do know you can move swap to another drive
[09:54] <uga> shit... konversation is parsing something...
[09:54] <dsmith_> !ohmy
[09:54] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:54] <kim_> dsmith_, yes... not completely sure how, but it shouldnt be hard to do. I have to get to bed now anyway, have to get up early tomorrow :)
[09:55] <dsmith_> aye
[09:55] <dsmith_> cyas
[09:55] <kim_> Bye everyone :)
[09:55] <kim_> Cya
[09:55] <paul_> anyone play with reactos
[09:55] <dsmith_> once before
[09:55] <dsmith_> it for lack of better words stunk
[09:56] <paul_> kinda slow
[09:56] <paul_> is minix as bad as its made out to be
[09:59] <Dr_Willis_> minix? why would it be bad? its an very old OS that still lives on. :)
[09:59] <Dr_Willis_> i used it years ago on my Amiga
[09:59] <dsmith_> as does win2000?
[09:59] <dsmith_> lol
[09:59] <uga>   dpkg --get-selections | grep '[[:space:] ] install$' | awk '{print $1}' > installedpackages
[09:59] <dsmith_> i for one never used minix so I cannot comment
[09:59] <uga> phew, now it's fixed ;)
[10:00] <uga> uhm... linux is becoming so boring
[10:00] <uga> thanks to kubuntu
[10:00] <uga> what's the next broken OS I should test?
[10:00] <Dr_Willis_> uga start training others. :)
[10:01] <dsmith_> heh
[10:01] <Dr_Willis_>  cp/m !
[10:01] <ScorpKing> uga: try LFS if you're bored. lol
[10:01] <uga> Dr_Willis: I'm fully trained at cp/m plus ;)
[10:01] <Dr_Willis_> its amazing - when you start teaching others linux.. you find that they can some how do the .... oddest things to their systems...
[10:01] <uga> ScorpKing: oh well. after I had used gentoo for some time, that might be next step
[10:02] <savetheWorld> hi all, I have an HP laserjet printer attached to my Kubuntu system, works fine.  Now I want to enable it for network access so people can print from other Linux boxes and Windows boxes. Does  anyone have a suggestion?
[10:02] <uga> Dr_Willis_: I noticed lately ;)
[10:02] <Dr_Willis_> savetheWorld thats what samba is all about. :) it can share printers and files.
[10:02] <dsmith_> share with cups port 631
[10:02] <jhutchins> savetheWorld: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters
[10:02] <Dr_Willis_> sharing to other linux machines is even easier. :)
[10:02] <jhutchins> That doesn't look right...
[10:02] <dsmith_> aye
[10:02] <nclx> What ports must I allow in/out of my firewall to enable kubuntu boxes to update using apt ?
[10:03] <jhutchins> savetheWorld: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[10:03] <dsmith_> none?
[10:03] <jhutchins> That's better.
[10:03] <savetheWorld> wow -three, woops, no FOUR answers!  great.  Thanks!
[10:03] <jhutchins> nclx: Uses http, ftp, or ssh.
[10:03] <dsmith_> I dont open ports for APT
[10:03] <dsmith_> no need
[10:03] <nclx> so outbound 21, 22, and 80 ?
[10:03] <jhutchins> savetheWorld: Well, the first one from me was wrong.
[10:03] <jhutchins> nclx: No.
[10:04] <bottiger> I have a question. Right now I'm running Kubuntu and my soundsystem works flawlessly. Back in the day, when i used gentoo (and FVWM), I had a lot of problems  with playing multible sounds at once. Most programs could be configured to use dmix for mixing but it was a pain in the ***
[10:04] <bottiger> Does anyone know how it works in Kubuntu?
[10:04] <nclx> well I have a default deny policy even for outbound traffic
[10:04] <bottiger> is everything still using aRts? I thought aRts was old and broken, is there another decent soundeamon?
[10:04] <savetheWorld> jhutchins: yes, but some of the others may be wrong as well.  It still counts as an answer! :-D
[10:04] <dsmith_> nclx, ok then that explains your question
[10:04] <jhutchins> bottiger: alsa is what allow multiple programs simultaneous access.
[10:04] <jhutchins> bottiger: Lots of stuff still uses arts emulation though, or oss.
[10:05] <w0nder> hey, is there a kubuntu alt cd?
[10:05] <dsmith_> yes
[10:06] <dsmith_> anyone know how I can d/l a ubuntu select dvd?
[10:06] <dsmith_> or where?
[10:07] <Doctor_Nick> eat your veggies
[10:08] <Biovore> oO
[10:10] <nadrosima> hello guys and girls
[10:10] <bigleon> good evenign nadrosima
[10:10] <nadrosima> i cant join other irc server
[10:10] <bigleon> they down?
[10:10] <nadrosima> warn me always ur mirc not legal
[10:11] <Biovore> get xchat.. :-P
[10:11] <nadrosima> how create a msk ?
[10:11] <nclx> oh I see, as long as the repos are defined as http:// in /etc/apt/sources.list then that is the only protocol I need to allow out to us.archive.ubuntu.com.  Cool
[10:11] <nadrosima> *mask
[10:12] <nadrosima> simple go tryn irc.superonline.com 6667
[10:12] <nadrosima> how fixed this error
[10:13] <Dr_Willis_> nadrosima you are using windows and the mIRC client?
[10:13] <nadrosima> kde konversation
[10:13] <nadrosima> :=))
[10:13] <MinceR> hay
[10:14] <NickPresta> !hi | MinceR
[10:14] <ubotu> MinceR: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[10:14] <Dr_Willis_> Looks like their server is scanning/identifying the irc client and perhaps it expcts some specific version reply.
[10:14] <MinceR> i'm trying to find where Amarok is set to start on XF86Audio. i've looked at Keyboard Shortcuts/{Shortcut Schemes,Command Shortcuts} or Input Actions without success and i'm out of ideas.
[10:15] <Dr_Willis_> also looks like that irc server is on some kids pc. :)
[10:15] <newsense07> nadrosima: i cant connect to the server either check their website
[10:16] <Dr_Willis_> i connected then got kicked/banned..  looks like a somewhat questionable irc server to me.
[10:16] <Dr_Willis_> :)
[10:16] <newsense07> Dr_Willis_: i agree
[10:16] <emilsedgh> MinceR: systemSettings->Keyboard->Keyboard shortcuts->commad shortcuts
[10:16] <Dr_Willis_> it auto-joined me to a channel.. then kicked me out. :)
[10:16] <nadrosima> may be create a vrsion answer simple unix
[10:16] <nadrosima> ehe
[10:16] <MinceR> emilsedgh: i've looked there and there's no shortcut at Multimedia/Amarok
[10:16] <Dr_Willis_> whatever their deal is..  its not Linux related. :)
[10:17] <Huey> how can i find out what's using my sound card?
[10:17] <Huey> 'lsof /dev/dsp' returns nothing
[10:17] <nadrosima> huey first lspci
[10:17] <Huey> yet 'cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp' says the soundcard is busy
[10:17] <Huey> nadrosima: what will that tell me?
[10:18] <emilsedgh> Minataku: go there, select AmaroK and then click kone the button (bottom of the screen) with caption 'None'
[10:18] <Huey> i know that sound was working on this computer last night, and i can't think of anything i did that would mess it up
[10:18] <MinceR> emilsedgh: whoa, it set itself as soon as i clicked advanced
[10:18] <MinceR> thanks for the tip
[10:19] <MinceR> oh, it wasn't automatic -- just the bug i'm trying to get around
[10:19] <MinceR> (something keeps sending that key, i suspect my wonderful tuner card)
[10:19] <Huey> and according to kmix and alsamixer, nothing is muted
[10:19] <Huey> i don't think the hardware just died; these are built-in speakers for a laptop
[10:19] <bigleon> I had that issue once, then i found out my speakers weren't plugged in
[10:20] <bigleon> try some headphones huey
[10:20] <Huey> bigleon: i did, same result
[10:20] <newsense07> huey: cat /dev/dsp while plsying audio return any output ?
[10:20] <bigleon> Hmm soundcard drivers working?
[10:20] <MinceR> emilsedgh: it's set to None and it still starts amarok
[10:20] <Huey> newsense07: cat /dev/dsp yields output anyway
[10:20] <Huey> newsense07: so i think something is using the soundcard, but i don't know what
[10:20] <emilsedgh> MinceR: click on then, the press the key that you want to start AmaroK
[10:20] <Huey> and nothing in 'ps aux' looks like a likely culprit
[10:21] <Huey> and 'lsof /dev/dsp' shows nothing
[10:21] <MinceR> emilsedgh: i've set another key and it still starts amarok on media
[10:21] <nadrosima> *********warning ********* /please make a copy for make a new configure **** for back up to old settings ******************
[10:22] <Huey> although it looks like 'cat /dev/dsp' is outputting the same non-human-readable character over and over, so i don't know if it's outputting an error incorrectly, or actually being used
[10:22] <Huey> is there a way to autmatically remove a module and all its dependencies?
[10:23] <imagine[laptop] > Hi, I'm having an issue with a NFS file server, I changed router and the address of my server changed from 192.168.1.101 to 192.168.0.101 and now it seems I can't remove my old NFS filesystem and it is screwing the NFS service. I can't start the service at all.. any way to manually remove the bad NFS fs?
[10:23] <Huey> the strange thing is, all apps that use sound don't seem to be having any problems
[10:23] <Huey> so they all think the sound card is working
[10:24] <nadrosima> Huey  u make auto remove but dont forget some settings cant remove so maybe see again same errors
[10:24] <Huey> nadrosima: make autoremove? with the kernel sources?
[10:25] <nadrosima> huey yep
[10:25] <Huey> eh, it sounds like it'll be easier to just remove them by hand
[10:25] <Huey> the strange thing is, this problem persists after rebooting
[10:25] <nadrosima> and pls use konsole
[10:25] <imagine[laptop] > how do I reload my fstab file ?
[10:26] <nadrosima> not shit other desktop programs
[10:26] <nadrosima> imagine[laptop] :  mount -all
[10:27] <nadrosima> imagine[laptop] :  make a or more dir later open fstab and configure file system and user acces
[10:31] <bigleon> how do you run a .run?
[10:31] <jhutchins> kmail
[10:31] <jhutchins> erp.
[10:32] <jhutchins> !language | nadrosima
[10:32] <ubotu> nadrosima: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:32] <uga> bigleon: you just need to give executable permissions to the file. Any extension is executable in linux
[10:32] <uga> bigleon: chmod a+x executable.run
[10:33] <uga> that will give everyone executing permissions to it
[10:34] <bigleon> then wha ti do to run it, it till doesn't show a "run"  or anything
[10:34] <bigleon> still
[10:34] <bigleon> it still keeps opening in kate
[10:35] <BluesKaj> bigleon, sh ./filename.run
[10:35] <bigleon> it says i need to run it as a "Super User
[10:35] <nadrosima> * never working with root
[10:36] <BluesKaj> sudo
[10:36] <nadrosima> when u run with root cant acces other user
[10:36] <jhutchins> bigleon: What is this file supposed to be and where did you get it?
[10:36] <bigleon> it's ati driver i downloaded from ati site
[10:37] <nadrosima> i m try ati driver but not worked
[10:37] <jhutchins> k, you should be following the install instructions;
[10:37] <jhutchins> !ati | bigleon
[10:37] <ubotu> bigleon: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:37] <nadrosima> used binary driver
[10:37] <jhutchins> bigleon: Basically just sudo sh whatever.run
[10:37] <jhutchins> bigleon: Basically just sudo sh ./whatever.run
[10:37] <bigleon> yeah i forgot sudo so i was lost why it wasn't working lol
[10:38] <jhutchins> !kdesu
[10:38] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[10:38] <paul_> if u upgrade or add ram
[10:38] <nadrosima> ummm go open ur pc recovery mode
[10:38] <paul_> do u have install kubuntu
[10:38] <nadrosima> and try install driver
[10:38] <paul_> reinstall
[10:39] <jhutchins> paul_: No, you may have to let the bios register it, but linux doesn't care.
[10:39] <uga> jhutchins: wha? muck what permssions
[10:39] <jhutchins> uga: Want to find out?
[10:39] <uga> jhutchins: sure I want. unless there's a full url describing the sudo issues, I'd say that's just not true
[10:39] <paul_> i am getting 512 mb stick
[10:39] <jhutchins> uga: That is the official channel bot, you know.
[10:39] <uga> I know, but it doesn't point to the url describing the issues
[10:40] <jhutchins> It is true, we've had to try to help people recover from it here.
[10:40] <MinceR> does anyone know where the patch/change to kdesu that makes it use sudo comes from?
[10:40] <uga> jhutchins: okay, but what's it about
[10:40] <uga> .kde file permissions?
[10:40] <uga> for example?
[10:40] <jhutchins> uga: If they've gone far enough running gui stuff with sudo, they're best off with a clean install.
[10:40] <uga> I don't see what can get broken, really
[10:40] <jhutchins> uga: Feel free to experiment.
[10:41] <jhutchins> Kinda like using su instead of su - in other distros.
[10:41] <inaety> hello, im not really how i can explain this but whenever i try to use kword with Times New Roman at size 12, double spaced, it comes out terribly bad looking and large not to mention it screws up the borders...just all bad.  but when i use Openoffice it comes just fine, the same font and everything
[10:41] <uga> jhutchins: I'm asking you from a coder's point of view. I've done that tons of times, and just asking what's the exact issues
[10:41] <uga> that line is okay for noobs, but not for admins etc
[10:41] <jhutchins> uga: It's a general issue.
[10:41] <uga> uhm...
[10:41] <uga> I just don't like the "don't do that it'll eat you!" without explaininig what's the thing to eat me ;)
[10:43] <newsense07> jhutchins: so usind sudo instead of kdesu for gui apps changes file permissions without notification ?
[10:43] <jhutchins> newsense07: Yes.
[10:43] <jhutchins> Basically overwrites settings files with root ownership.
[10:43] <newsense07> jhutchins: thanks for the input, wish i knew this before
[10:44] <newsense07> jhutchins: do you know of any docs describing what file permissions are changed and howto correct it ?
[10:44] <uga> jhutchins: lol
[10:45] <uga> jhutchins: next time you guys find issues with sudo ing, it'd be nice if you list possible issues. That would at least tell the risks, and the procedures to recover
[10:45] <jhutchins> newsense07: That's the thing, it depends on what you run and what you do with it - sometimes chown -R <user>:<user> /home/<user> will fix it.
[10:45] <uga> which would be nice
[10:45] <uga> also for us developers, would maybe help if we knew how our proggies can break
[10:45] <jhutchins> uga: The procedure to recover is a clean install, and don't run GUI apps with sudo.
[10:45] <uga> due to permission issues
[10:46] <uga> jhutchins: the general recommendation for sysadmins is not to run neither sudo nor su ;))
[10:46] <uga> for guis
[10:47] <uga> not just sudo
[10:47] <newsense07> jhutchins: not what i wanted to hear and if i didnt connect this computer to a rather large corporate lan id probobly ignore it but i think a clean install might be what i need
[10:47] <jhutchins> newsense07: If you don't have problems, you could be lucky, but it's hard for me to know what you might have done and what might have changed.
[10:48] <uga> jhutchins: unfortunately, that's just not possible in a kubuntu-fashion desktop due to the target audience
[10:48] <uga> I've seen systems break under parted frontends ...
[10:48] <uga> and that's not due to using sudo
[10:51] <uga> jhutchins: okay, rereading the bot's suggestion, I understand it's all about .kde/ file permissions only. I can't really see any other issues arising
[10:51] <uga> due to not entering a full session with a proper KDEHOME for root
[10:52] <nadrosima> uga u want del or copp any dir. use konsole as root (mc)
[10:52] <jhutchins> uga: Like I said, you are welcome to experiment and define the parameters of the problem for yourself.  We would prefer if people were careful offering advice in the channel, and if they made it clear that GUI aps should not be run with sudo in ubuntu.
[10:53] <uga> jhutchins: sure. I just wanted to understand the whole issue. Following rules blindly isn't good. Sometimes rules become out of date after years...
[10:54] <uga> nadrosima: ?
[10:54] <zblach> quick thing: at around the 55 hour mark, katapult suddenly consumes a ton of CPU time. i then have to kill it and restart it. anyone els ehave this?
[10:54] <uga> nadrosima: I just sudo su and be done
[10:55] <uga> nadrosima: I'm not asking for help here. Just asking why I need to tell other users that sudo can break their systems while kdesu won't
[10:55] <uga> which is not completely true, but it's half-baked truth
[10:56] <uga> (since kdesu can easily break it too)
[10:57] <uga> nadrosima: I've been using linux from ... 98 or 99, so I know how easy it is to break a linux system by doing silly things :P
[10:57] <uga> done that toooooo many times
[10:57] <uga> fortunately, that has helped me to learn how to recover from most issues too. Hardest was a lack of permissions to run shell and basic login tools
[10:57] <uga> so I couldn't even chroot
[10:58] <ehc> if I want my monitor to turn off after a specific amount of time is that a computer setting or a monitor setting?
[10:58] <nadrosima> uga: :=))
[10:59] <uga> sorry, not permissions. the libraries bash links to were gone
[10:59] <MinceR> ehc: computer
[10:59] <MinceR> ehc: there's an x setting for it, for example
[10:59] <uga> nadrosima: so I had to chroot to a statically linked shell
[10:59] <uga> it was quite fun
[10:59] <MinceR> ehc: system settings provides an interface to it, if i'm not mistaken
[10:59] <uga> it happenned due to a bug in a gentoo ebuild
[11:00] <Biovore> oO
[11:00] <mefisto__> my kubuntu checks the fs after mounting 30 times on startup. Where is this "check after 30 mounts" set?
[11:00] <nadrosima> MinceR:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:00] <ehc> MinceR, okay I found it. Will movie players tell it to not work?
[11:01] <MinceR> nadrosima: re the turning off the monitor thing? :)
[11:01] <uga> mefisto__: http://micrux.net/?p=52
[11:03] <uga> mefisto__: sorry, that doesn't answer your question. But this does: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=549255&highlight=mount+30+times+fsck
[11:03] <uga> just use tunefs and increase the count as you plese
[11:03] <uga> please
[11:04] <uga> or just not reboot the machine
[11:04] <mefisto__> thanks, uga. the first one was interesting, though
[11:04] <uga> yeah, I think the tunefs method is safer though ;))
[11:05] <Doctor_Nick> marzipan
[11:06] <uga> Doctor_Nick: you need to change your password again, I think
[11:06] <uga> nice one, though ;)
[11:06] <Doctor_Nick> uhm
[11:06] <Doctor_Nick> no
[11:06] <Doctor_Nick> i just really want marzipan now
[11:06] <uga> oh lol
[11:13] <crazy6> ok, so, is there any trick way of installing kubuntu if I don't have a CD drive?
[11:13] <savetheWorld> jhutchins:  Worked for Win boxes! no doing Linuxen.
[11:14] <savetheWorld> *now
[11:15] <exio> hi... i'm running gutsy and trying to compile a c file, and i installed libc6-dev as well as build-essential and i'm still not able to find any results from "locate stdio.h"
[11:15] <exio> anyone home?
[11:16] <emilsedgh> exio: #ubuntu+1 for gutsy
[11:16] <exio> thanks!
[11:17] <rediz_> cant conect to web with net gear usb wireless card. i've put in web key but still locked
[11:17] <kreib> on boot, how can show system messages instead of the kubuntu logo?
[11:21] <deichgraf4> moin
[11:21] <jhutchins> kreib: turn off splash in grub config
[11:22] <jhutchins> rediz_: Try using hex for the key instead of ascii.
[11:22] <kreib> yeah ? its a variable in menu.lsr?
[11:22] <spiroo> Problem in backup application Keep: Cannot backup because rdiff-backup directory in my backup directory does not exist. How would I solve that. I do not know how a rdiff backup directory looks like inside.
[11:23] <jhutchins> spiroo: I suspect it's specific to whatever backup script you're running, check the docs.
[11:23] <spiroo> Why does Keep not add that directory when setup the backup? :S
[11:23] <edgar> hi, salut :)
[11:23] <jhutchins> spiroo: There are MANY backup systems in Linux.
[11:23] <spiroo> I am just running Keep with rdiff-backup
[11:24] <spiroo> I guess this is some kind of bug in the application that it not add a rdiff-backup directory.
[11:24] <mefisto__> jhutchins: ctrl-alt-F1 would also show boot messages instead of kubuntu logo, no?
[11:25] <edgar> I just hav a question for kubuntu, is the a proprietary driver installer like in ubuntu, or do i have to instal myself my ATI??
[11:25] <edgar> thx
[11:25] <BluesKaj> !ati
[11:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:25] <spiroo> I guess it is coming ATI full drivers in the feature because AMD/ATI has officially released their code for drivers
[11:25] <_osh> edgar: there's one installer in the new "gutsy" release coming out in october i believe.
[11:26] <Ace2016> i found a reproducable error
[11:26] <jhutchins> mefisto__: Not as far as i know, they're before the consoles load.
[11:26] <nethenson> i am using konsole 1.6.6 on kde 3.5.7 (on kubuntu+1) ... is there a way i can get rid of the 'python console, mc console...'?
[11:26] <Ace2016> wrong channel yet again :(
[11:27] <spiroo> uhm, the backup problem, how to solve?
[11:28] <edgar> thanks for the link, but i still don't understant why in ubuntu i can istall ATI proprio in juust one clic and not in kubuntu :)
[11:28] <kreib> jhutchins: so , by turn of splash , you mean to delete "splash" from the line : kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-16-generic root=UUID=59c6552a-ff96-441f-b8cc-90002bea7a00 ro quiet splash
[11:28] <crazy6> if I just dd the kubuntu iso onto a usb memory stick is it going to work as an installer?
[11:29] <spiroo> crazy6: NO
[11:29] <crazy6> spiroo: darn
[11:30] <crazy6> what about if I copy all the files over to a stick that has grub on it already
[11:30] <jhutchins> kreib: yes, I'd copy the line, comment it, then delete it from the live line.
[11:30] <spiroo> Not sure exactly how to do it, but I guess you must format the USB right and extract ISO and some things.
[11:30] <spiroo> !usb :D
[11:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb :d - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:31] <spiroo> !usb
[11:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:31] <crazy6> does the kubuntu boot CD use grub?
[11:33] <sportbilly> i want to make my kde look like mac os anybody who knows?
[11:34] <emilsedgh> sportbilly: install baghira
[11:34] <emilsedgh> sportbilly: then install osk icons (from kde-look.org)
[11:34] <emilsedgh> sportbilly: and kxdocker for docking purposes
[11:35] <emilsedgh> sportbilly: and one more little thing, make your MenuBar's like osx, you could do it from systemSettings
[11:35] <kreib> since I dont use bluetooth, I tought I`d disable it. I removed bluetooth service from all runlevels. still kbluetooth wants to start up on boot, how can it be disabled?
[11:35] <emilsedgh> kreib: uninstall (remove) it from adept
[11:36] <sportbilly> i can make my menu bar like osx but i cant make the panel look like this
[11:36] <mauri_> i need help for amule
[11:37] <sportbilly> i have installed baghira
[11:37] <rrbiz> sup kubuntu
[11:37] <sportbilly> i suppose this is for the menu look only
[11:37] <sportbilly> kxdocker ive installed it but didnt worked
[11:38] <emilsedgh> sportbilly: so, install ksmoothdock
[11:48] <Lega> 'ello.
[11:48] <mauri_> i need help for amule
[11:48] <CalZing> just wanted to check one isue with kopete. There is no "Send File" button in the status toolbar (chat window), when using the Jabber plotocol. Kopete is able to send files using Jabber, and the button exists for the MSN protocol.  already spoke to the kopete people and they said that there mere such button. Is the button removed for kubuntu? And why?
[11:49] <nosrednaekim> CalZing: do you have the same version as the kopete people were using?
[11:50] <CalZing> i have 0.12.5
[11:50] <CalZing> the one included with feisty
[11:51] <nosrednaekim> but were they referring to a different version?
[11:51] <CalZing> i didn't ask them. But i don't think so
[11:52] <mauri_> amule is connected but find is not able to find anything
[11:52] <CalZing> do you know if this button is included in the upcoming versions (It's ok because I can send files anyway)
[11:52] <CalZing> just wanted to tell and improve the software
[11:53] <nosrednaekim> ask them :) I don't use kopete
[11:55] <CalZing> ok
[11:55] <CalZing> ;)
[11:56] <linxa> hello
[11:56] <nosrednaekim> hello linxa
[11:56] <linxa> i want to install engage
[11:56] <nosrednaekim> !info engage
[11:56] <ubotu> Package engage does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[11:56] <linxa> i need the sources
[11:56] <mauri_> amule is connected but find is not able to find anything
[11:56] <nosrednaekim> linxa: you can't find a .deb?
[11:57] <pillowpants> does anyone know a kde program i can use to resize a windows partition with?
[11:57] <linxa> it my firts time using kubuntu
[11:58] <linxa> somebody can help me?
[11:58] <pillowpants> linxa: what do you need help with?
[11:58] <linxa> install engage
[11:58] <linxa> i need sources
[11:59] <linxa> to fill my /etc/apt/sources
[12:00] <sergio> hi all
[12:01] <pillowpants> linxa: sudo apt-get install engage
[12:01] <pillowpants> in a terminal
[12:01] <mauri_> kubuntu 7.10 has firewall enbeded
[12:02] <sergio> I use firefox instead konqueror because java works not fine in konq, I want to know if I can set my kde wallpaper from firefox directly like with konqueror "Set as wallpaper" menu option... Thanks
[12:04] <slackern> mauri_, you could check out Guarddog perhaps to control iptables in kubuntu. http://www.simonzone.com/software/guarddog/#screenshots
[12:04] <mauri_> does kubuntu 7.10 has firewall enbeded?
[12:04] <kkathman> sergio java works just fine in konq, and flash works much better than in firefox
[12:05] <slackern> mauri_, ubuntu/kubuntu has iptables in the kernel or as modules and that is the firewall, you will need to configure it either by configuring scripts or using an application to set up rules.
[12:05] <linxa> yes, but that command line doesn't find the packege
[12:05] <sergio> kkathman: some pages in konqueror to me not
[12:05] <kkathman> sergio then you probably have something set incorrectly
[12:06] <mauri_> slackern: the problem seems that amule is not able to find anything
[12:07] <slackern> mauri_, ahh i don't use amule myself but nothing is blocked in 7.10 as default there are no rules enabled, there isn't for me atleast, maybe you have a router that you need to portforward ports through?
[12:07] <BluesKaj> mauri_, are you using a router ?
[12:07] <sergio> the answer to my own ask: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/7542081/KDEBackground-Wallpaper.diff
[12:08] <GuHhH> i need help with bind + ssl http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37629/
[12:08] <MacNiall> When I built my last computer I put a SB-XFi in it, knowing it wasn't Linux compat. But now I'm pondering buying a good Linux compat sound card. What's the best quality available that is also Linux compat?
[12:08] <mauri_> i havent a router
[12:08] <mauri_> if i changed the server, it works
[12:08] <BluesKaj> the server in amule ?
[12:10] <BluesKaj> MacNiall, either nvidia or intel , altho nvidia seens to have  more probs lately , ati should be avoided unless it's a hi-end and new
[12:10] <mauri_> BluesKaj: donkeyservers don't works....the others yes
[12:11] <MacNiall> BluesKaj: Sound card? Something other than onboard is preferred...
[12:11] <slackern> MacNiall, http://www.linuxcompatible.org/compatibility.html maybe can make it easier too
[12:12] <hydrogen> ati/nvidia sound cards?
[12:13] <BluesKaj> oops
[12:13] <BluesKaj> and of course he's gone ...great :(
[12:14] <BluesKaj> mauri_, it seems the edonkey servers are down right now
[12:15] <mauri_> BluesKaj: thnks so are tring just now?
[12:15] <BluesKaj> edonkey1 is running
[12:16] <Nerval> any site that was like distrowatch ?
[12:16] <draik> Is there a way to get the Manual in HTML?
[12:16] <draik> Or even PDF?
[12:16] <draik> I want to be able to take it with me on my phone
[12:17] <BluesKaj> mauri_, i run MLDonkey , uses the some of the same met servers as amule and most of the eDonkey servers are not connecting
[12:20] <sayers> i really woulda thought there'd be a metric converter in the package list.
[12:20] <BluesKaj> mauri_, now they connect but have no files available
[12:20] <pillowpants> can mkv files be burned in linux?
[12:20] <pillowpants> the video file
[12:20] <pillowpants> i ahve a movie in it, and would like to get it on dvd
[12:22] <mauri_> BluesKaj: ok thanks...i didn't know hot to check they are down
[12:22] <BluesKaj> !mkv
[12:22] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:23] <BluesKaj> pillowpants, http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Audio/iso2mkv-8453.shtml
[12:26] <ubuntu> hi all
[12:26] <NickPresta> !hi | ubuntu
[12:26] <ubotu> ubuntu: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[12:27] <martijn81> anyone knows kmyfirewall well? what are chain forwards?
[12:27] <lnx_> how i can install deb files in graphical way ?
[12:27] <draik> lnx_: What do you mean by graphical?
[12:28] <draik> You can right-click on it and choose to install
[12:28] <MinceR> katapult doesn't get a tray icon -- so how can i configure it?
[12:29] <lnx_> draik , yes that is what i mean but i down know why i ahve no this menu "kubuntu pakage manager" its gone how i can return it ?
[12:30] <ubuntu> .i have some problem whit 7.10, i was installing updates for kubuntu made a restart and now i can't boot kubuntu couse the boot entrys disappear
[12:30] <BluesKaj> sayers, look for convertall
[12:30] <ubuntu> http://pastebin.ca/700094
[12:31] <BluesKaj> !convertall
[12:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about convertall - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:31] <mefisto__> MinceR: activate katapult (usually alt-space) then ctrl-c
[12:31] <BluesKaj> !convertall info
[12:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about convertall info - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:31] <MinceR> mefisto__: thanks
[12:31] <ubuntu> now ther is Ubuntu gutsy (development branch), memtest86+ only and xp
[12:31] <BluesKaj> !info convertall
[12:31] <ubotu> convertall: Universal unit converter. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.0-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 52 kB, installed size 300 kB
[12:32] <draik> lnx_: Sorry, I wouldn't know
[12:32] <sayers> BluesKaj: It has an interface right :) ?
[12:32] <sayers> aweseme
[12:33] <sayers> thank you , you just saved me like 30 minutes of math BluesKaj
[12:33] <martijn81> does someone knows about a good tutorial of kmyfirewall?
[12:33] <martijn81> *for
[12:34] <BluesKaj> yes sayers , i just had to launch it from the Konsole tho
[12:34] <ubuntu> i hope somebody can help me, to get my boot entrys back for kubuntu 7.10
[12:37] <mefisto__> ubuntu: have you tried reinstalling/configuring grub?