[01:16] <Vegar> what do I need to get the ubuntu splash on my custom kernel?
[01:16] <gnomefreak> mauri: than im not sure ask in kde how to fix it but first fix your kdm
[01:16] <cps1966> installer asumes utc on clocks
[01:17] <cps1966> not on all systems though
[01:17] <gnomefreak> cps1966: bios is right and hes set to rome so there is something wrong there unless he didnt restart after changes
[01:18] <cps1966> well i set mine to ny time and it was 4 hours off
[01:18] <mauri> gnomefreak: ok..if  turn 2 hours anticlockwise...also the bios time will chage
[01:19] <gnomefreak> mauri: not likely
[01:19] <cps1966> it does when you reboot does same here
[01:37] <c1|freaky> where can i find dialy images for kubuntu?
[01:37] <c1|freaky> found it, thx
[02:01] <VousDeux> cool, I got sshfs working
[02:02] <VousDeux> no thanks to the rude jerk in #cygwin
[02:03] <cps1966> VousDeux:  are you the one that has 6800 go
[02:03] <VousDeux> I have 8600-GT
[02:04] <cps1966> ok the nvidia driver only supports up to 5700go
[02:05] <VousDeux> I know it's not supported yet, but if there is a way to get better performance than VESA out of it, it would be cool
[02:05] <cps1966> xorg driver might work
[02:05] <VousDeux> might be worth a try :)
[02:07] <VousDeux> does anyone know of a tool that will scan my hardware and give me a better idea of what challenges I need to address?
[02:08] <cps1966> GeForce 8600 GT 0x0402 it will in 64 bit
[02:08] <VousDeux> like maybe just tell me if it is working properly or unrecognized
[02:09] <VousDeux> cool. x86-64 is what I'm using.
[02:09] <cps1966> good then make sure you get rid of all old kernels and headres
[02:09] <VousDeux> I already got rid of old kernels :) thanks
[02:10] <cps1966> you want nvidia-glx-new
[02:10] <VousDeux> is it out there now?
[02:10] <cps1966> yes for gutsy
[02:11] <VousDeux> oh, cool. do I just apt-get nvidia-glx-new then?
[02:11] <cps1966> ithink you can
[02:11] <cps1966> install
[02:11] <VousDeux> oh, it's right there in adept
[02:11] <VousDeux> thanks for the heads-up!
[02:12] <cps1966> make sure it get dependacys
[02:12] <VousDeux> Okay
[02:12] <cps1966> like kernel headers nvidia-glx-new also
[02:16] <cps1966> nvidia-new-kernel-source
[02:19] <cps1966> i use to many distros
[02:26] <VousDeux> Okay, So I have nvidia-glx-new and nvidia-new-kernel-source
[02:27] <VousDeux> is there anything else I need?
[02:27] <VousDeux> I also ran the nvidia-glx-config enable
[02:28] <cps1966> you might have to poke it to get it going dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg should do it pick the nvidia driver
[02:28] <VousDeux> Okay. I'm going to try restarting X now
[02:28] <VousDeux> thanks again
[02:38] <cps1966> did it work
[02:38] <VousDeux> well, I did have to go in and poke it with a stick, but when I rebooted it came up clean with an nVidia splash before the logon screen.
[02:38] <cps1966> cool
[02:38] <VousDeux> thanks a million!
[02:39] <cps1966> yup
[02:39] <cps1966> np
[02:39] <VousDeux> I sure do appreciate all of the great help here
[02:39] <cps1966> does your sound work ok
[02:40] <VousDeux> I think so, but I'm not sure how to verify
[02:40] <cps1966> you should here sound at startup
[02:40] <VousDeux> the touch pad is the thing giving me the most fits right now...it keeps messing with my typing
[02:41] <VousDeux> yeah, I do, but this thing is supposed to have 5.1 audio, so I guess I would need a sound test that would bounce to all speakers one-at-a-time
[02:42] <cps1966> you need mp3 file or audio cd
[02:43] <VousDeux> hmm...I'll have to google for a sound test file I guess
[02:43] <cps1966> you need some mp3 decoders also
[02:43] <VousDeux> yeah, I have mp3 sound working
[02:44] <cps1966> i doing old yardbirds stuff right now
[02:44] <VousDeux> :)
[02:44] <cps1966> i'm old
[02:45] <cps1966> be 60 in january
[02:45] <VousDeux> I'm not exactly a spring chicken either :)
[02:45] <VousDeux> I'm 43
[02:45] <cps1966> thats cool wish i was 43 again
[02:47] <VousDeux> so, the 1966 in your nick is for what?
[02:47] <cps1966> the year i graduated
[02:47] <VousDeux> ahhh
[02:47] <cps1966> went crazy
[02:47] <VousDeux> I graduated in 1980
[02:48] <cps1966> my youngest son is 14
[02:48] <VousDeux> well, actually 1979, but they didn't give me my diploma until 1980
[02:48] <cps1966> my oldest is 35
[02:48] <VousDeux> I have three boys...20, 19, 15
[02:49] <cps1966> thats cool
[02:49] <cps1966> i had to play with women a bit in between
[02:49] <radius> what day cps1966 - mins is the 8th
[02:49] <radius> mine*
[02:50] <cps1966> 16th
[02:50] <VousDeux> ahh...I've been married to my only wife for 22 years this November
[02:50] <radius> still in the capi zone (:
[02:50] <cps1966> my daughters is the 6th
[02:50] <cps1966> my sons is the 15th
[02:50] <radius> all in jan? wow
[02:50] <radius> my sis is the 1st
[02:50] <cps1966> good vibs
[02:51] <radius> hard heads (:
[02:51] <VousDeux> my youngest is an April fool baby :)
[02:51] <cps1966> yeah
[02:51] <radius> i fit the goat profile to a T
[02:51] <VousDeux> but he's no fool
[02:51] <cps1966> i'm testing this kooka
[02:52] <cps1966> takes for ever to warm up though
[02:52] <VousDeux> brb
[03:02] <VousDeux> I'm going to restart X again. That nVidia update took out my Option SHMConfig "on" line (that wasn't working anyway), I want to see if for some reason it does work now.
[03:09] <VousDeux> well, the touch pad config has not improved, but I was able to select a widescreen monitor without blowing up
[03:11] <VousDeux> hmmm...it isn't offering me choice to select any resolutions other than 1680x1050 or 1920x1200
[03:11] <cps1966> sudo nvidia-settings
[03:13] <VousDeux> Okay
[03:14] <cps1966> 1920x1200 is good for 24 inch monitor
[03:14] <VousDeux> yeah, but mine is only 17"
[03:14] <cps1966> make sure you save it to xorg.conf file
[03:30] <VousDeux> I couldn't find anything in there that looked like it needed to be changed. The only resolution available in there was 1680x1080.
[03:31] <cps1966> you need 1440x900
[03:31] <VousDeux> I guess maybe I need to run dpkg-reconfigure again to add more
[03:31] <cps1966> yup
[03:31] <VousDeux> yeah, because my eyes aren't that good
[03:32] <cps1966> huh yours
[03:32] <cps1966> i have 1440x900 on 19 invh wide screen
[03:32] <VousDeux> I have a hard time up close
[03:32] <cps1966> me to far sighted
[03:33] <cps1966> not so much anymore though ,just blind
[03:33] <VousDeux> I have glasses now, but I can't seem to get the hang of using them
[03:33] <cps1966> huh i did afer i was 45
[03:34] <VousDeux> they sold them to me a couple of years ago,,,been in the case pretty much ever since
[03:35] <cps1966> yeah i have new ones but them suckers are to much for me
[03:35] <VousDeux> Okay, that battery LED is staying off now...maybe I do have a hardware problem
[03:36] <VousDeux> they gave me some weird bi-focals...pain in the butt
[03:37] <cps1966> yeah same here
[03:37] <VousDeux> progressive bi-focals is what I think they called them
[03:38] <cps1966> that means you dont have to tilt your head back all the way
[03:39] <VousDeux> which sounds good, but it seems like they don't line up from eye to eye..only one eye looks clear at a time
[03:39] <VousDeux> I tried to get them adjusted, but still doesn't seem right
[03:39] <cps1966> over powered
[03:40] <VousDeux> I think I will go somewhere else next time...I got these from Wal-Mart
[03:40] <cps1966> oh gee
[03:42] <VousDeux> Okay, I'm going to try messing with that dpkg-reconfigure again
[03:43] <cps1966> add 1280x800 also
[03:44] <VousDeux> Okay
[04:01] <cps1966> well did it go well
[04:02] <VousDeux> Okay, that didn't seem to go as well as I'd hoped. I still only have 1680x1050, and nvidia-settings says: (nvidia-settings:6062): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display
[04:03] <VousDeux> hmmm...I wonder if was the monitor setting where it asks for the monitors best display setting
[04:03] <stdin> VousDeux: make sure you're running it as your user, not as root
[04:03] <VousDeux> I did choose 1680x1050 for that
[04:03] <stdin> or with gksu/kdesu
[04:03] <cps1966> did you put in 1440x900
[04:04] <VousDeux> I did, and 1280x800 too
[04:04] <cps1966> hmm
[04:04] <VousDeux> I ran it with sudo
[04:04] <VousDeux> was sudo a mistake?
[04:05] <stdin> yeah, use gksu or kdsu (depending on if you you gnome or kde)
[04:05] <cps1966> na its the only way it will save it to xorg.conf
[04:05] <VousDeux> so I just type kdsu then?
[04:05] <stdin> if it's kde, "kdesu nvidia-settings"
[04:06] <cps1966> hes reconfiguring xserver-xorg
[04:06] <stdin> don't use sudo with GUI apps, it's bad
[04:07] <VousDeux> that did bring up the settings...I must have snoozed the kdesu part
[04:07] <cps1966> i have to go for now bbiab
[04:07] <VousDeux> okay, thanks for your help
[04:07] <JediMaster> hey all, got a problem with tribe 5
[04:08] <JediMaster> the live cd doesn't seem to work with my network interface
[04:08] <JediMaster> I can't get my NForce network to work. it seems to setup the "forcedeth" module for it, and sets up 2 interfaces, eth0/1 but neither find a dhcp, and with static settings I can't ping anything on the network
[04:09] <JediMaster> this bug has been reported already by the looks of it: #136836 and I have exactly the same issue
[04:21] <Yasumoto_> JediMaster: would you mind adding a comment saying that it happens to you too?
[04:21] <JediMaster> sure, I've also found the solution =)
[04:22] <Yasumoto_> sweetness, add that too :D
[04:22] <JediMaster> adding this to the modprobe options file: options forcedeth msi=0 msix=0
[04:22] <JediMaster> then rmmod/modprobing it and ifdown/ifup and the interface suddenly works and finds the dhcp
[04:25] <JediMaster> Yasumoto_: next issue =)
[04:26] <Yasumoto_> mm, gotcha
[04:26] <Yasumoto_> yeah, seriously :)
[04:26] <JediMaster> the installer doesn't see my raid 0 striped drives, it sees them individually, and when firing up gparted it complains about partitions starting off teh end of the disk
[04:28] <JediMaster> I presume then that the bios is presenting the disks seperately rather than one raid'ed drive
[04:29] <Yasumoto_> all that I remember about raid
[04:29] <Yasumoto_> is that if it's a software raid
[04:29] <Yasumoto_> you need to do something to set it up
[04:29] <JediMaster> I set it up through the bios before setting up any OS on the machine
[04:29] <JediMaster> vista saw it with no aditional drivers
[04:30] <JediMaster> I have some basic knowledge of mdadm etc, but this is definately not setup through linux, it was just through the bios
[04:30] <Yasumoto_> huh. interesting
[04:31] <VousDeux> I tried running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg again, I can still only select 1680x1050 as a resolution
[04:32] <Yasumoto_> VousDeux: I don't know what your situation is, but you're using spacebar to asterisk other resolutions, right? (I used to hit enter or something I think)
[04:32] <Yasumoto_> and it didn't work properly
[04:32] <VousDeux> yeah, I'm using spacebar
[04:33] <VousDeux> when I run kdesu nvidia-config I get several errors: http://rafb.net/p/lIfE8M47.html
[04:34] <VousDeux> when I click 'Save to X Configuration File' the console window says: sh: pkg-config: not found
[04:34] <JediMaster> Yasumoto_: apparently it's "fake raid"
[04:35] <VousDeux> the xorg.conf does acknowledge the video modes: Modes      "1680x1050" "1440x900" "1280x800"
[04:35] <Yasumoto_> VousDeux: bogus
[04:36] <Yasumoto_> JediMaster: does that mean you need to use mdadm?
[04:36] <VousDeux> the problem is that installed the new nvidia driver, but I can't choose a different resolution from the nvidia-settings
[04:37] <VousDeux> I'm not complaining as much as I am just reporting back to those who were helping me
[04:37] <Yasumoto_> VousDeux: yeah, gotcha
[04:38] <VousDeux> quite frankly, I am very pleased with the progress I have made so far...it's far more than I expected since the hardware is all so new
[04:39] <VousDeux> this channel has been very resourceful :)
[04:44] <VousDeux> can anyone see any problems with my xorg.conf: http://rafb.net/p/WK4al259.html
[04:46] <VousDeux> I'm especially interested in getting my touch pad so that I can configure it, but it keeps telling me I need to add that 'Options "SHMConfig" "on"' line even though it is already there and I have rebooted the computer.
[04:50] <Pumpernickel> VousDeux: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=8b3599b676d12dbb665af769fe8e7f03&t=168581&page=3 seems relevant to your problem.  Link goes to page 3; step-by-step starts at page 1.
[04:51] <VousDeux> hey, thanks a bunch!
[04:51] <JediMaster> Yasumoto_: I think this should solve my nvraid problem: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FakeRaidEdgy
[04:51] <JediMaster> quite a lot of work though, but I guess this is not a gusty specific problem
[04:51] <JediMaster> right, it's 4am I should really get some sleep, thanks for  the help =)
[04:52] <VousDeux> you're a die-hard too :)
[04:53] <Yasumoto_> nice JediMaster :)
[04:54] <Yasumoto_> bonus points if you can upgrade it to gutsy :)
[04:58] <Vegar> is there a way to apply a patch to the most recent kernel in the apt repository and get a set of .debs like those you find in apt?
[05:05] <VousDeux> restarting X again...brb
[05:05] <n0yd> Anyone know if the grub package supplied in gutsy is patched for reiser4?
[05:35] <VousDeux> well shoot...that synaptics touch pad link didn't seem to do me much good other than teaching me a couple of new lessons about xorg.conf
[05:35] <Vegar> having trouble with your touchpad?
[05:36] <VousDeux> I thought maybe the error was talking about shared memory between the usb mouse and the touch pad, so I tried commenting out the mouse section and unplugging it
[05:36] <VousDeux> Vegar, yeah, can't adjust settings. It keeps telling me to add 'Option "SHMConfig" "on"
[05:37] <VousDeux> but it's already in there
[05:37] <Vegar> is it in the right section?
[05:37] <VousDeux> oh yes, for sure
[05:38] <VousDeux> http://rafb.net/p/WK4al259.html
[05:39] <Vegar> that's strange
[05:39] <VousDeux> since I pasted that entry I have made one more modification
[05:39] <Vegar> it works on my thinkpad
[05:40] <VousDeux> I added to the synaptics section 'Option "AlwaysCore"'
[05:42] <VousDeux> when I click Keyboard & Mouse, in System Settings, it says: Touch pad configuration inaccessible - System Settings | Shared Memory is not accessible...
[05:43] <VousDeux> then it says to add that line to the xorg.conf
[05:43] <VousDeux> hmmm....I wonder if my user just doesn't have read rights on xorg.conf or something
[05:44] <VousDeux> how are the rights assigned to your xorg.conf?
[05:44] <Vegar> do you run xorg as your user?
[05:44] <VousDeux> I'm not sure what you mean
[05:44] <VousDeux> I have been using sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf to edit it
[05:45] <hydrogen> have you restarted xorg since adding it?
[05:46] <VousDeux> oh yes, I tried just restarting X, and doing a complete reboot
[05:48] <VousDeux> synclient -l
[05:48] <VousDeux> Can't access shared memory area. SHMConfig disabled?
[05:48] <VousDeux> No.
[05:53] <m1ke> apt package manager appears to be broken.  It fails to completely update,and I get the same error daily for this last week.  Then it always wants me to reboot my computer, but the problem is never fixed.  http://www1.uploadhut.com/viewimage.php?type=2&id=23369-Screenshot-synaptic.png
[05:54] <hydrogen> have you looked through here VousDeux?
[05:54] <hydrogen> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=975421
[05:54] <VousDeux> I'll check and see if I have seen that one already...thanks!
[05:55] <n0yd> Why the hell does sun-jave6-plugin depend on firefox.  It shouldn't ever depend on one particular browser.
[05:56] <hydrogen> because ita a mozilla plugin
[05:56] <d4rkmonkey> lol
[05:56] <n0yd> hydrogen: It works on other mozilla broswers
[05:56] <hydrogen> then file a bug
[05:56] <n0yd> Not just firefox. Like epiphany, galeon, kazehakase, swiftfox etc
[05:57] <hydrogen> not sure how well apt handles "OR" dependancies
[05:57] <hydrogen> though it should be fine with it
[05:57] <n0yd> Heck, it even works on KHTML based browsers like konqueror
[05:58] <d4rkmonkey> AHHH!
[05:59] <d4rkmonkey> wait..
[05:59] <d4rkmonkey> nevermind...
[05:59] <d4rkmonkey> FALSE ALARM!
[06:02] <hydrogen> err
[06:02] <hydrogen> n0yd: it doesn't require firefox here
[06:03] <hydrogen> Depends: firefox  |Depends: <iceweasel>  |Depends: <mozilla-firefox>  |Depends: iceape-browser  |Depends: <mozilla-browser>  |Depends: epiphany-browser  |Depends: galeon  |Depends: konqueror  |Depends: midbrowser
[06:07] <deobfuscate> Packages are held back because they are missing dependencies correct?
[06:07] <m1ke> apt package manager appears to be broken.  It fails to completely update,and I get the same error daily for this last week.  Then it always wants me to reboot my computer, but the problem is never fixed.  http://www1.uploadhut.com/viewimage.php?type=2&id=23369-Screenshot-synaptic.png
[06:10] <deobfuscate> !help
[06:10] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:10] <n0yd> hydrogen: right, it's still pointless.  I like swiftfox, not any of those broswers that thew pkg is tied to.
[06:10] <n0yd> It was fixed before in other releases of Ubuntu, so it should be fixed again. Big report submitted.
[06:12] <d4rkmonkey> is there any way to see which kernels I have installed currently?
[06:13] <d4rkmonkey> wait.. I found out how!
[06:13] <d4rkmonkey> apt-get remove linux-image-<kernel version>      should uninstall old kernels right?
[06:16] <d4rkmonkey> ?
[06:21] <VousDeux> when I do lsmod, should I see synaptics on the list?
[06:32] <No1Viking> Guys.... where can I find Realplayer with the plugin for Gutsy?
[06:35] <RAOF> d4rkmonkey: Yes, that's right.  "sudo aptitude remove linux-image-<kernel version>" should work.
[06:35] <d4rkmonkey> k
[06:35] <d4rkmonkey> thanks RAOF
[06:35] <tifine_> Hi,  I want to change the default port of my router web-server does anybody have an idea?
[06:40] <No1Viking> Guys.... where can I find Realplayer with the plugin for Gutsy? I tried to install the .bin without luck. Any ideas please?
[06:43] <npurciful> whats up
[06:51] <dfgas> anyone using the newest version of virtual box on gusty? I am experiencing crashes with it
[06:51] <VousDeux> I don't even think it's reading the xorg.conf settings for the touch pad. I just tried 'Option "TouchpadOff" "0"' and "1"...neither one of them disabled the touch pad.
[06:52] <VousDeux> I don't believe how many hours I have into this problem...it's starting to get on my nerves
[06:54] <VousDeux> well...maybe better luck next time. Good night.
[07:11] <npurciful> dfgas: i am using the feisty repo for virtualbox on gutsy havent had problems with it
[07:11] <npurciful> dfgas: take that back the is a update to the one i have
[07:12] <npurciful> let me install it
[07:14] <sparr> im having a problem with gimp closing/segfaulting/exceptioning at random after 1-20 minutes of use.  anyone else seeing that?
[07:15] <contrast83> That couldn't be a VRAM issue could it?
[07:15] <sparr> entirely possible
[07:20] <contrast83> What card?
[07:21] <DanaG> wtf?  I can't boot from a burned Gutsy cd-rw.
[07:21] <DanaG> But CD-R seems to work, I think.  I'm burning that one now.
[07:21] <contrast83> I've had that issue several times w/ RW's, Dana
[07:22] <contrast83> They seem to not be very good for boot discs. I've had that problem when using them w/ other distro's live CD's as well, so it's not just an Ubuntu thing.
[07:22] <DanaG> That's what I figured.
[07:23] <DanaG> But if you can't boot from them, then what good are they?
[07:23] <DanaG> That's the only thing I use writable CDs for, most of the time.
[07:23] <contrast83> Well, I'm using one right now as a boot CD, but who knows how long it'll last. :-\
[07:24] <DanaG> Well, one factor: I burned it in an older drive, that's also a 4x single-layer DVD burner.
[07:24] <contrast83> It's a very intermittent issue from my experience. It'll work fine as a boot disc for a few weeks, then it decides to stop working.
[07:24] <DanaG> Plus, I've had some CD-RW disks fail to erase, too.
[07:26] <DanaG> My solution to that: stick them in the window, facing direct sunlight for a few hours, and then full-erase them.
[07:26] <DanaG> I found that online in some forums somewhere.
[07:43] <Aondo> hm will the default implementation of compiz-fusion cause X to crash on use of other opengl applications? atleast for me that is the case, still.
[07:53] <RAOF> Aondo: That bug has been filed, and it's an Xorg ABI change.
[07:58] <Aondo> ok
[08:02] <RAOF> Aondo: So, you'd want to be monitoring bug #130325
[08:02] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 130325 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 "[nvidia-glx]  3D GL apps crash X when using compiz due to unmaked ABI change (gutsy)" [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/130325
[08:04] <Aondo> ye, thanks. my thoughts was that it would be quite unwise to bring it forward as default, with such a crazy bug :D
[09:25] <Xemanth> uhm I did Feisty -> Gutsy dist upgrade and now my kde ain't loading anymore to desktop
[09:26] <Xemanth> when X starts kstartupconfig says error
[09:27] <Xemanth> when i try to start it in cli mode it says "bus error" :D
[09:27] <Xemanth> "Could not start kstartupconfig. Check your installation" says kde exactly
[09:27] <RAOF> That sounds like you're on PowerPC.
[09:28] <Xemanth> RAOF: meh ?
[09:28] <Xemanth> i'm on i386 :P
[09:28] <RAOF> "Bus error" sounds particularly powerpcish :)
[09:29] <RAOF> x86 tends to call that a segfault
[09:29] <Xemanth> when I click okey in that window, then it says could not start kdeinit
[09:29] <Xemanth> when I run kdeinit in cli it says bus error too"
[09:29] <Xemanth> :D
[09:31] <Xemanth> kconf_update -----> "bus error"
[09:34] <Xemanth> atm situation looks pretty bad
[09:36] <Xemanth> its like all kde stuff say that
[09:36] <Xemanth> but i can run irssi etc in cli
[09:36] <hylje> train error
[09:37] <Xemanth> hylje: train error ? choosoo
[09:37] <Xemanth> choochoo error
[09:37] <Xemanth> do you know any debug command which would give some more info about what causes bus error
[09:38] <hylje> nop
[09:38] <hylje> i'm though suggesting you have a funny qt/kdelib
[09:39] <Xemanth> hmm
[09:39] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everone!
[09:40] <MilhousePunkRock> Does someone know what I need to do to get the "new" KDM theme and Ksplash on my Kubuntu gutsy system? KDM theme is default and ksplash, well, whatever I choose it to be, but there is no choice for the kubuntu-default one...
[10:07] <sandy> i am using 7.10 ubnutu and i am not able to update and upgrade the system and there are problems with fusion when ever i am starting fusion the title bar of all windows are going what to do?
[10:07] <sandy> i am using 7.10 ubnutu and i am not able to update and upgrade the system and there are problems with fusion when ever i am starting fusion the title bar of all windows are going what to do?
[10:25] <minimec> Hi folks. I gave Gusty a try. Nice work :) It seems that there are still some problems with the compiz configuration.
[10:26] <minimec> One thing I would like to change is to add some more Desktops.
[10:26] <minimec> Unfortunally I was not able to do so...
[10:26] <minimec> Any Ideas?
[10:28] <jsomers> minimec: you should install compizconfig-settings-manager
[10:29] <jsomers> it's an advanced control panel
[10:29] <minimec> jsomers, I did so and I added some Desktops in the 'general settings' menu. No effect
[10:30] <minimec> jsomers, 'general settings' 'desktop size' ...
[10:32] <minimec> jsomers, I have 4 Desktops in the Desktop-Switcher-Applet in the gnome panel, but I can only switch two of them with Ctrl-Alt-Right
[10:33] <minimec> oups... Now the gnome-panel has gone ;)
[10:37] <minimec> killall gnome-panel gave me back my panel. Looks like the ccsm switcher-applet does completly ignore the Desktop settings.
[10:45] <minimec> I will continue to debug ;)
[10:52] <mewt> 'lo
[11:06] <enyc> Im a bit puzzled by this -- ubuntu Gutsy has "cdrtools" in "multiverse" (i.e. nonfree) -- but the 3 binary packages it generates are in   Main,universe,universe ...  whats going on here?
[11:09] <h1st0> compizconfig-settings-manager needs to be in ubuntu-desktop
[11:09] <Zemus> :|
[11:09] <Zemus> :P
[11:09] <enyc> Zemus: ?how did that happen?
[11:10] <Zemus> enyc, I guess I haven't been keeping up? I don't see any info on the main ubuntu page, could you link me?
[11:10] <Zemus> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule, I guess...
[11:10] <sandy> i am using 7.10 ubnutu and i am not able to update and upgrade the system and there are problems with fusion when ever i am starting fusion the title bar of all windows are going what to do?
[11:11] <enyc> Zenton: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon
[11:11] <enyc> Zemus: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon  even ;-)
[11:11] <Zemus> heh, thanks
[11:11] <sandy> i need to install compiz fusion
[11:11] <enyc> sandy: this is a testing version... problems are expected.
[11:12] <Zemus> 18 october. Bitchin'! :D
[11:12] <sandy> enyc tell me how to install compiz fusion
[11:12] <enyc> sandy: hrrm ive not tried 7.10Gutsy so i dont know ;-)
[11:13] <enyc> sandy: i got the idea compizfusion was part of 7.10
[11:13] <sandy> ya
[11:13] <sandy> but
[11:13] <sandy> there is a problem i am not able to install  emerald-themes
[11:13] <sandy> what to do
[11:14] <enyc> try installing it from apt-get ...
[11:14] <enyc> see what the error is
[11:14] <enyc> look for existing bugreports of launchpad
[11:14] <Zemus> aptitude > apt-get
[11:14] <enyc> post another if needbe
[11:15] <sandy> i tried
[11:15] <h1st0> sandy: you are using non stock repos
[11:15] <enyc> sandy tried _what_ expctly?
[11:15] <sandy> emerald-themes
[11:15] <sandy> Couldn't find package emerald-themes
[11:15] <h1st0> sandy: you need to remove whatever you installed from those repos and use the official ones.
[11:15] <h1st0> its there.
[11:16] <scizzo-> apt-cache search emerald
[11:16] <scizzo-> you will then find what packages are related to emerald
[11:16] <sandy> if i use apt-get install emerald Couldn't find package emerald-themes
[11:17] <sandy> nothing coming if i wse apt-cache search emerald
[11:17] <scizzo-> sandy: then you need to check your repos
[11:17] <scizzo-> sandy: seems like you get no result at all when it comes to the window manager at all
[11:18] <sandy> there are no other repos then ubuntu
[11:18] <geser> enyc: poke an archive admin to move the cdrkit binary debs also to multiverse
[11:18] <enyc> geser: where/how? ;-)
 what to do ?
[11:19] <geser> enyc: in #ubuntu-devel during european working hours/days
[11:19] <scizzo-> sandy: check your repositories
 how to do it
[11:19] <enyc> geser: soo.... there is a mistake at the moment [?] 
 do you want me to change to 7.04
[11:20] <geser> enyc: I'm looking now
[11:21] <scizzo-> sandy: I think that the package is in a multivers repo or something
[11:22] <geser> sandy: there is no emerald-themes in gutsy anymore
[11:22] <sanford> sorry for any confusion
 i have compizconfig manage in my system but i am not able to open it
[11:23] <saispo> any kernel dev here ?
 if am starting fusion the title bar of all windows are going away
 there are no title bars for any windows
and no effects
[11:24] <geser> enyc: cdrecord, mkisofs, cdda2wav where previously trantistional packages build from cdrkit (main) but are now normal packages again
[11:25] <MrStein> Hi! Anyone has an URL to a grub floppy image at hand ? Or CD image ? thanks!
[11:25] <geser> enyc: I'll poke an archive admin to move them to multiverse
[11:25] <enyc> geser: i see ok
[11:26] <enyc> geser: thankyou for trying to get that sorted out ;-)
[11:26] <sandy> i want 3d desktop
[11:27] <enyc> sandy: hrrm tyri intalling released gutsy7.10 in future then ;-)
[11:27] <enyc> sandy: alternatively, install feishy7.04 and install beryl's feisty repository on that... then install beryl ?
[11:28] <scizzo-> sandy: well there are still testing going on with the ubuntu-effects stuff
[11:28] <sandy> ok
[11:29] <scizzo-> sandy: the window decorator as standar is at the moment gtk-decorator or gnome-decorator
[11:29] <scizzo-> AFAIK
 how to check
[11:30] <JediMaster> morning guys
[11:31] <JediMaster> I know that this isn't exclusively a gusty issue, but is it likely that something similar to this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FakeRaidEdgy could be automated for the final gusty install?
[11:32] <scizzo-> sandy: well ubuntu-effects are using compiz.....so I would suggest you try to start a terminal and type compiz --replace
[11:32] <JediMaster> (I have the rather annoying nvraid with two disks raid striped with vista already on there (ugh!))
[11:32] <scizzo-> sandy: and then see what happens
[11:33] <sandy> the title bar of all the windows goes off
[11:33] <scizzo-> sandy: but you need to change it so that ubuntu-effects are not turned on from the beginning when you do compiz --replace
 bye
[11:45] <mewt> is there a way to know what version of a package you have installed from apt-get?
[11:46] <twilight> mewt: apt-cache show <package> | grep Version ?
[11:47] <mewt> sudo apt-cache search openarena | grep version gives nothing
[11:47] <mewt> :/
[11:47] <twilight> Version ('V', not 'v'), or | grep -i version
[11:48] <mewt> still nothing
[11:48] <mewt> and ingame i cant find a version
[11:48] <mewt> number
[11:48] <mewt> it gives 1.33-oa
[11:48] <mewt> openarena is still on 0.71
[11:52] <twilight> "apt-cache show openarena | grep Version" gives "Version: 0.6.0-4", this is the version in the universe repo
[11:54] <h1st0> twilight: yeah 7 is out on the site.
[11:54] <mithro> hi! What is the best way to get a version of libdbus with debugging symbols?
[11:55] <mithro> normally there is a libabc-dbg package, but libdbus doesn't seem to have one
[11:59] <mewt> twilight, what does one have to do to get a package updated ?
[11:59] <w0nder> hey guys... trying to install kubuntu gutsy
[11:59] <w0nder> I get up to the live cd desktop
[11:59] <w0nder> but the installer won't run
[12:00] <w0nder> it just shows up on the taskbar for a bit, acts like it's busy, then goes away
[12:00] <w0nder> nothing ever comes up on my screen
[12:01] <laga> morning
[12:01] <laga> i just found out the hard way that there's no nvidia.ko available for the realtime kernel in gutsy. is this intentional?
[12:03] <w0nder> is there a way to install kubuntu from the command line or something?
[12:04] <laga> w0nder: are you already running ubuntu?
[12:05] <w0nder> the pc i'm installing on is clean
[12:05] <w0nder> were u thinking i could just upgrade or something?
[12:06] <h1st0> How do you start open arena I tried the ioq3ded.i386 but it appears to be a server
[12:06] <mewt> I did a sudo apt-get install openarena
[12:06] <mewt> and then started it by typing openarena in a terminal :)
[12:06] <mewt> or selecting it from the games menu
[12:07] <laga> w0nder: well, what command line are you referring to? what are you trying to do, where are you failing?
[12:08] <h1st0> I downloaded the new version from the web
[12:10] <w0nder> I get up to the live cd desktop
[12:10] <w0nder> but the installer won't run
[12:10] <w0nder> it just shows up on the taskbar for a bit, acts like it's busy, then goes away
[12:10] <w0nder> nothing ever comes up on my screen
[12:10] <w0nder> im going to try safe graphics mode once
[12:11] <laga> w0nder: sounds good. make sure to file a bug so your problems can be fixed!
[12:11] <laga> w0nder: if the safe mode fails as well, you can try the alternate CD
[12:15] <w0nder> laga: safe mode failed.. where's this alt cd?
[12:15] <kylem> '
[12:15] <xukun> I,m trying to install ubuntu on my dell inspiron 9300 but when I choose the install from command line option I get a dark screen. Any Idea where to go from here?
[12:21] <xukun> anybody please
[12:25] <w0nder> oem install just hangs at the loading screen
[12:26] <w0nder> lol whoa
[12:27] <w0nder> it finally finished loading
[12:31] <xukun> w0nder, I have that too, how did you get around?
[12:32] <w0nder> i didnt
[12:32] <mewt> w0nder, how much ram do you have ?
[12:32] <w0nder> it just came up
[12:32] <w0nder> 512
[12:32] <mewt> that's your problem...I had it before
[12:32] <w0nder> wtf?
[12:32] <mewt> takes amazingly long to load
[12:32] <w0nder> 512mb is my prob?
[12:32] <mewt> ye
[12:32] <w0nder> ahh
[12:32] <w0nder> wtf? even vista loads fast with 512 ;)
[12:33] <w0nder> the installer still wont run tho
[12:33] <mewt> you probably have like 3 loading
[12:33] <mewt> depending on how many times you clicked it
[12:33] <w0nder> lol
[12:33] <w0nder> possibly
[12:33] <w0nder> but my cdrom isn't doing anything
[12:33] <w0nder> AT ALL
[12:34] <mewt> give it time
[12:34] <mewt> usually it comes up
[12:34] <w0nder> i think i left it there overnight dude lol
[12:35] <xukun> Which option do I choose if I want to start the cd as live cd?
[12:35] <w0nder> what about a normal text-based installer? is there one for ubuntu
[12:35] <w0nder> ?
[12:36] <mewt> that's the alternate cd
[12:36] <mewt> anyone play simutrans in here before ?
[12:42] <hylje> no
[12:50] <JediMaster> anyone know why my mouse isn't detected at boot (it's a USB Razer mouse), however when I unplug it and put it back in, it works instantly
[12:50] <JediMaster> (this is on gusty tribe 5)
[12:50] <mewt> JediMaster, mine works fine from bootup
[12:51] <JediMaster> weird, I've seen it happen once or twice in windows too, but been working fine recently
[12:51] <Tomcat_> JediMaster: Check syslog if the mouse is detected and the drivers are loaded properly.
[12:51] <Tomcat_> JediMaster: At boot, that is. :)
[12:51] <JediMaster> just doing a partial upgrade (still at a constant 1057kb/sec!) and will check it after a reboot
[12:53] <sandy> i need to change the setting of compiz fusion in gusty how to do it?
[12:53] <JediMaster> lmao, i was about to ask the exact same thing =)
[12:56] <sandy> can anyone tell me how to change the setting of compiz fusion
[12:57] <sandy> can anyone tell me how to change the setting of compiz fusion
[12:57] <mewt> JediMaster, I had that prob on windows too when I used to reboot
[12:57] <mewt> JediMaster, I fixed it by upgrading the firmware and flash of my copperhead
[12:57] <mewt> never gave probs on linux hto
[12:59] <JediMaster> mewt: you can upgrade the firmware on the mouse? lol
[01:00] <crdlb> sandy, install compizconfig-settings-manager
[01:00] <crdlb> then run ccsm
[01:00] <JediMaster> does compiz work well with dual monitors?
 from where i sould install it
[01:08] <crdlb> !info compizconfig-settings-manager
[01:08] <ubotu> compizconfig-settings-manager: Compiz configuration settings manager. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2+git20070912-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 498 kB, installed size 3268 kB
[01:09] <crdlb> from there ^^
[01:12] <sandy> it is not there in synaptic
 it is not there in synaptic
[01:13] <crdlb> do you have universe enabled?
[01:17] <sandy> ya
[01:33] <JediMaster> wow, that broke X
[01:33] <damon_> is anyone else having somewhat regular problems with some or other gnome component dying, resulting in the need for a hard reset?
[01:34] <JediMaster> after an initial install, X(org) seems to be working fine, I setup the nvidia commerical drive through the popup, no problem, restart and everything is fine. as soon as I use the new screen config to setup a second monitor, reboot and X is foobared, both monitors flick on with the nvidia logo and it freezes =(
[01:34] <JediMaster> I'm guessing this is an nvidia drive problem
[01:34] <JediMaster> +r
[01:36] <laga> JediMaster: fyi, i just setup twinview with nvidia-glx-new and it's working
[01:37] <JediMaster> laga: I'm using TWO geforce 8800 cards, which may be causing an issue
[01:37] <JediMaster> GTX's too =)
[01:38] <JediMaster> laga: would you mind throwing me your xorg.conf?
[01:38] <laga> JediMaster: i'll upload it
[01:38] <JediMaster> thanks
[01:38] <laga> JediMaster: it's a bit special, i'm using a DFP and a CRT with a 720x576 interlaced modeline ;)
[01:39] <JediMaster> freaky lol
[01:40] <laga> JediMaster: http://laga.ath.cx/xorg.conf
[01:42] <JediMaster> thanks
[01:59] <mewt> JediMaster, of course you can, just visit razer's site for the files and insatructions
[02:07] <attunix> Would it be terribly hard to make my own usplash?
[02:12] <Suurorca> attunix: not really, there should even be readable tutorial somewhere on the forums/help pages
[02:12] <Suurorca> but it's not exactly trivial, either
[02:13] <attunix> I'll look it up :)
[02:13] <attunix> thnaks
[02:13] <attunix> *thanks
[02:14] <JediMaster> laga: just looking at your config, not quite what I'm trying to do, I have 2 x GF8800 GTXs and want to do dual screen with one monitor from each card
[02:15] <SWAT> when I try to enable compiz in gutsy, the normal decorations disappear, but the compiz decoration don't appear (the cube works though). I have an Intel 915 chipset and use the Intel driver. xorg.conf has been generated with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. Any tips?
[02:18] <laga> JediMaster: oh, sorry :/
[02:18] <JediMaster> np
[02:33] <svu> why do dbus and hald take AGES to start on gutsy?
[02:35] <PriceChild> If you had watched your language I wouldn't have noticed ;)
[02:35] <Ax-Ax> ?
[02:35] <Ax-Ax> http://s167.photobucket.com/
[02:35] <Ax-Ax> oh
[02:35] <Ax-Ax> http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u151/ax-ax/xchatannoy.png
[02:36] <PriceChild> willt ake a look
[02:36] <PriceChild> ahh taht icon
[02:36] <Ax-Ax> the xchat systray apears in a window
[02:36] <PriceChild> I love the way you've made kde like gnome :)
[02:36] <PriceChild> anyway
[02:37] <PriceChild> That always happenned for me when xchat was running, but the notification area was destroyed at soem point.... e.g. switching between compiz/beryl and metacity
[02:37] <PriceChild> gah its too early
[02:38] <Ax-Ax> is my problem that compiz/beryl is to early?
[02:38] <Ax-Ax> :P
[02:39] <PriceChild> are you running compiz?
[02:39] <PriceChild> and if you close xchat, then start it again does the icon go into the right place?
[02:41] <Ax-Ax> 1. i've never understod what compiz does, so i dont know (reading wikipedia)  2. its right, but sometimes it jumpos out on its own
[02:45] <PriceChild> I haven't a clue then :)
[02:48] <MrStein> Add/Remove software not working in latest daily (14092007) ?
[02:50] <Lattyware> Ugh, I've worked out why gnome-terminal is crashing - it crashes when I have no GLX (triple monitors break GLX for me.)
[02:50] <Lattyware> That's a kick in the ass.
[02:53] <MrStein> noone here ?
[02:53] <MrStein> :-)
[02:53] <Lattyware> Works for me...
[02:53] <Lattyware> that's just running it updated to the latest - don't know if that is what you are referring too.
[02:56] <Lattyware> Hmmm. Nautilus appears to have died all of a sudden
[02:56] <Lattyware> that isn't good
[02:57] <MrStein> Lattyware: boot daily 20070914, select add/remove in menu ... wait.. (wait pointer apears) .... nothing. There is a "starting add/remove.." icon on the task bar, but then disapperas.
[02:58] <MrStein> also the VTs are all mixed up. I selected "Restart" and then the "press enter" message was no on the active VT. Also presing ENTER in the "correct" VT was not detected. Then I pressed ENTER on all VTs and one worked (dunno which, it disapeared too quickly).
[02:58] <MrStein> A complete mess, hope you don't plan final release soon ....
[02:59] <MrStein> ;-)
[02:59] <Lattyware> ugh, I'm so annoyed with this lack of GLX thing though
[03:00] <Lattyware> apparently my two cards are too different, and it disabled GLX everywhere.
[03:00] <Lattyware> So I have no GLX. which would be fine, I can switch between a multi- and single- monitor setup, but no gnome-terminal and firestarter because of it is pretty bad.
[03:01] <Lattyware> Not to mention it means I can't use desktop effects.
[03:01] <Lattyware> I'm planning on getting two 2600XTs in crossfire, using those instead, once the FOSS drivers come out.
[03:01] <Vegar> How come the initrd from my custom kernel is 38 MB, while the others are 7 MB?
[03:02] <Lattyware> And maybe replace two of my 19"ers with another 24"er - dual seems to work better than triple.
[03:03] <penguin42> Vegar: open it up using cpio and see what's in it
[03:06] <Vegar> cpio crashed
[03:07] <penguin42> that's unusual are you sure?
[03:07] <Vegar> yes
[03:07] <Vegar> segfault
[03:07] <Vegar> extracted with gunzip
[03:08] <penguin42> erm that's very very odd - I've never seen cpio seg
[03:08] <Vegar> cpio -i < initrd.img-2.6.22.6
[03:08] <Vegar> it complained alot before crashing
[03:08] <Vegar> lots of malformed numbers and reverse byte-order
[03:11] <Vegar> hmm..
[03:11] <Vegar> if I wanted to just apply a patch..
[03:12] <penguin42> Vegar: I can recreate the seg fault here if I try cpio -i on the gzip'd file
[03:12] <Vegar> could I just replace the vmlinuz image in an ubuntu kernel image .deb?
[03:13] <penguin42> messy
[03:13] <penguin42> Vegar: But if you are going to do that then just don't bother with packaged kernels
[03:14] <Vegar> I feel it's more messy having to rebuild the restricted-modules and modules packages
[03:14] <qzio> Hey, anyone knows where i can find the new xorg.conf ? it's not in the same place anymore.
[03:15] <Vegar> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:15] <qzio> im running x without an /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:15] <qzio> so no, xorg.conf is not in /etc/X11/ anymore.. >_<
[03:15] <Vegar> mine is there
[03:15] <penguin42> ditto
[03:15] <qzio> it all started with an upgrade, x is _slow_ maybe the new intel driver is broken?
[03:16] <qzio> atleast my x is slow as * im on a macbook
[03:16] <qzio> (intel 945)
[03:16] <cypherdelic> greetings
[03:16] <penguin42> qzio: 945 is OK here (Tosh laptop)
[03:16] <Vegar> what application is it that controls the volume up/down buttons on the keyboard?
[03:18] <deresh> hi, does anyone has problems with ubiguity on gutsy daily cdimages
[03:18] <qzio> penguin42: sweet, i like the new open thing, but i prefer performance :)
[03:18] <penguin42> new open?
[03:18] <deresh> it's stuck on 120%
[03:18] <iliketofrolic666> how come all my fonts became smaller in gutsy? (same resolution)
[03:19] <Vegar> iliketofrolic666: adjust the DPI
[03:20] <iliketofrolic666> where?
[03:20] <Vegar> System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Fonts tab -> Details
[03:20] <Vegar> the top number
[03:20] <Vegar> what's the current value?
[03:20] <iliketofrolic666> i'm on xubuntu : (
[03:21] <Vegar> oh
[03:21] <deresh> does anyone know where ubiguity stores its logs
[03:21] <iliketofrolic666> alright i fixed it
[03:21] <qzio> penguin42: does gsynaptics works for you? i'm told by the system to set shmconfig to true in my xorg.conf but.. yeah sence xorg.conf is not used..
[03:22] <penguin42> qzio: I've not set the shmconfig up - but I do have an xorg.conf
[03:22] <penguin42> Vegar: I've just bug reported that cpio segfault - it really shouldn't happen; #139928
[03:22] <qzio> yeah, i also have a xorg.conf, but xorg seems to ignore it
[03:23] <qzio> penguin42: so i tried to cp xorg.conf backup_of_xorg.conf
[03:23] <qzio> and restart x
[03:23] <penguin42> Vegar: But I'm sure it is onl;y happening when fed a gzip'd file - I don't think your gunzip put the decompressed version where you thought
[03:23] <qzio> and it works, resolution, synaptics etc. but without my prefered settings (ie shmconfig true)
[03:24] <Vegar> penguin42: I got an uncompressed initrd file after gunzipping..
[03:24] <qzio> for example, the current settings is tap-to-click which i hate.
[03:24] <penguin42> Vegar: I'm betting you gave the cpio the compressed one - cpio is working fine for me on the uncompressed one but segs on the compressed one
[03:25] <Vegar> ah
[03:26] <Vegar> I'm supposed to run cpio on the uncompressed one?
[03:26] <penguin42> oh yeh!
[03:26] <penguin42> cpio doesn't know about compression
[03:26] <Vegar> ah, I see
[03:31] <JediMaster> when I set my keyboard layout to UK, I can no longer use the super key (windows), any ideas?
[03:36] <AnRkey> JediMaster, there are a few UK layouts u could try
[03:37] <penguin42> JediMaster: You have still got it as 105 key haven't you - not 102 ?
[03:38] <AnRkey> JediMaster, the international with dead keys is 102keys I think
[03:38] <AnRkey> so no super key if thats what u have chosen
[03:38] <AnRkey> try UK Default
[03:38] <JediMaster> let me check
[03:40] <Solarion> I wonder if I mistyped something
[03:41] <JediMaster> the keyboard preferences app isn't working for me, it can't active the xkb configuration
[03:50] <JediMaster> rbr
[03:50] <JediMaster> er brb =)
[03:53] <VousDeux> is it normal for apport-qt to popup a request for administrative privileges
[03:54] <geser> depends which programm crashed
[03:56] <VousDeux> I'm not sure how long this message has been on the screen
[03:56] <VousDeux> where should I look to find out what crashed?
[03:57] <VousDeux> so far, I haven't had much luck with google in finding out exactly what apport-qt is for
[03:58] <XsteelWolf> anyone using gusty?
[03:59] <VousDeux> I do, but I'm not an expert or anything
[04:00] <slackern> VousDeux, /var/log/apport.log might tell you what crashed.
[04:00] <penguin42> XsteelWolf: Yeh, that's why we're all here
[04:01] <XsteelWolf> is nvidia drivers included in gutsy?
[04:01] <VousDeux> ahh...thanks, I was headed for /var/log, but I wasn't sure what to look for when I got there
[04:02] <VousDeux> I'm using x86-64, it had some nv reference drivers initially, I had to add nvidia-gtk-new
[04:02] <geser> VousDeux: you can also look in /var/crash
[04:02] <VousDeux> at least I think that's what it was called
[04:03] <geser> VousDeux: apport-qt is a qt frontend for apport, a crash reporting tool
[04:03] <VousDeux> I would look it up, but I'm trying to figure out what to do with this other dialog that popped up, and it is preventing me from executing any aptitude related programs at the moment
[04:03] <XsteelWolf> i need to know whether nvidia quadro fx 570 is in the list,i had to do the workaround on fiesty..
[04:03] <VousDeux> ahhh...so it needs admin rights to update the log?
[04:03] <XsteelWolf> besides intel 4965ag drivers aint working in fiesty too
[04:04] <VousDeux> I'm using the 4965agn on x86-64, it is certainly improved from before
[04:05] <geser> VousDeux: if an application runnning as root crashes, you/apport need admin rights to read the crash file and report the crash
[04:05] <VousDeux> ah-ha, thanks geser
[04:05] <XsteelWolf> im on x86-32
[04:05] <XsteelWolf> does 4965agn works fine on you with fiesty?
[04:06] <VousDeux> not at all on feisty...was using vesa
[04:06] <VousDeux> that is one of the reasons I installed Gutsy
[04:07] <XsteelWolf> vesa for 4965agn wlan drivers?
[04:07] <VousDeux> oh, sorry...too many distractions
[04:07] <VousDeux> it didn't work at all on feisty
[04:08] <VousDeux> I tried following the instructions at intel, but it seemed to involve recompiling the kernel for updated mac80211 support
[04:08] <damon_> I reported a bug on thunderbird 1.5x earlier this year, and it does not affect thunderbird 2.0x, so I think it should be closed (it is currently "incomplete"). I just left a comment suggesting it should be closed.  Is there anything else I should do?
[04:08] <VousDeux> I'm not even sure if that would have worked
[04:08] <XsteelWolf> you got a segmentation fault as well?
[04:09] <VousDeux> it looks like my crash this moring was related to the new nvidia driver
[04:10] <XsteelWolf> i mean for your graphic driver
[04:10] <XsteelWolf> i mean wlan driver
[04:10] <XsteelWolf> what's your laptop model btw
[04:10] <VousDeux> ms-1719
[04:10] <XsteelWolf> dell?
[04:10] <VousDeux> msi
[04:10] <XsteelWolf> i see.
[04:11] <XsteelWolf> what nvidia card you got?
[04:11] <VousDeux> if you put ms-1719 into google, it should be the first link to the msi website
[04:11] <VousDeux> nvidia is 8600M-GT
[04:11] <XsteelWolf> try the workaround
[04:11] <XsteelWolf> for nvidia drivers on nvidia linux page
[04:11] <XsteelWolf> it will work
[04:12] <XsteelWolf> i solve that nvidia driver shit,but i can't get 4965agn intel wlan drivers to work'
[04:13] <VousDeux> I'll have a look at that shortly, my queue is currently full :) thanks
[04:13] <XsteelWolf> you said 4965agn intel works on gusty just fine?
[04:13] <VousDeux> yeah, worked out of the box
[04:13] <XsteelWolf> as in?
[04:14] <XsteelWolf> does it auto detect & install or?
[04:14] <VousDeux> I installed it, turned it on, and it worked
[04:14] <XsteelWolf> manually?
[04:14] <VousDeux> all I did was install Gutsy and it worked
[04:14] <XsteelWolf> turn it on using hotkey?
[04:15] <VousDeux> yes, that works too
[04:15] <XsteelWolf> sadly gutsy is still in alpha stage
[04:15] <XsteelWolf> im still waiting for the release
[04:15] <VousDeux> except I found it a little confusing at first because that hotkey is shared with the bluetooth
[04:16] <VousDeux> well, my hardware isn't production yet, so I figured I could afford to jump in before release
[04:18] <XsteelWolf> seems like this channel is abit dead
[04:19] <mirashii> meh. Has anyone had networking issues over the last day with the latest updates?
[04:19] <mirashii> I haven't been watching closely to what I've been upgrading but it seems lately that after a short period of time wireless networking stops working altogether until a reboot
[04:19] <VousDeux> this channel isn't always really busy, but if you are patient you can certainly get some excellent help here
[04:20] <slackern> mirashii, only odd thing i have seen is that the icon in kubuntu shows the machine as being unconnected but it still works, and disabling/enabling the networkcard makes it look alright again
[04:20] <VousDeux> my wifi seems to be working just fine
[04:20] <slackern> the icon for Knetworkmanager that is i should say
[04:21] <mirashii> slackern: NetworkManager in gutsy has always been a little screwy for me, I've had issues with the network saying its disconnected and not being able to reconnect through the gnome nm-applet, but then I can go in and run iwconfig and dhclient myself and connect fine. A minor annoyance, but now I can't reconnect at all
[04:22] <mirashii> I can live without a pretty applet, but I can't really make do without any network connection :)
[04:22] <slackern> hehe
[04:22] <mirashii> brb, lemme restart this in screen so I can try to update some more
[04:23] <qzio> ok, performance is back(i downgraded to feisty and then upgraded to gutsy) but i still cant figure out where xorg is getting it settings from. (i dont have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf)
[04:23] <qzio> I really want to change the synaptics settings
[04:23] <slackern> Im just running with cable myself, had so many problems when helping people out with wifi i can't just get myself into it at all.
[04:23] <XsteelWolf> gksudo synpatics
[04:23] <mirashii> back
[04:23] <qzio> gsynaptics tells me to put SHMConfig true in xorg.conf
[04:23] <XsteelWolf> what gutsy version are you on/
[04:23] <XsteelWolf> tribe 5?
[04:23] <qzio> XsteelWolf: yeah, that's what im doing
[04:23] <qzio> XsteelWolf: hu? just gutsy on every line in etc/apt/sources.list
[04:24] <qzio> how do i change tribe?
[04:24] <XsteelWolf> you don't change tribe
[04:24] <XsteelWolf> tribe is the pre-release of gutsy
[04:24] <XsteelWolf> the current latest available is 5,6 release is cancelled,to be announce at a later date
[04:24] <VousDeux> the tribe changes when you apply patches
[04:25] <XsteelWolf> what you can do is
[04:25] <XsteelWolf> sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:25] <Hobbsee> xtknight: t6 wont happen at all.
[04:25] <Hobbsee> (see the /topic)
[04:25] <Hobbsee> !final
[04:25] <ubotu> If you installed a Tribe/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Gutsy. To make sure, type  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  in a console.
[04:26] <qzio> XsteelWolf: yeah, i did upgrade :) x performance is back but the synaptics settings is default or something, not my own. I dont even have a xorg.conf file and x still works..
[04:28] <XsteelWolf> lol
[04:28] <XsteelWolf> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:28] <XsteelWolf> check here
[04:28] <XsteelWolf> or find / -name "xorg.conf"
[04:29] <damon_> is anyone here using the free nvidia driver?
[04:29] <XsteelWolf> damon_ what you mean?
[04:29] <XsteelWolf> you can get nvidia drivers off official website of nvidia
[04:29] <damon_> the non binary only driver
[04:29] <XsteelWolf> yes
[04:29] <XsteelWolf> im using it
[04:29] <damon_> because I was getting an awful lot of problems earlier
[04:29] <XsteelWolf> what problems
[04:29] <damon_> and I 'm not sure if thye
[04:29] <JediMaster> I've finally managed to get dual monitors working over two GF8800 GTX cards, however, Compiz seems to have stopped working now, none of the effects are working
[04:30] <damon_> XsteelWolf: not sure if they are related to the driver, or a just a coincidence
[04:30] <XsteelWolf> i'll try my best to help
[04:30] <damon_> #1 white backgrounds would be rendered as brown
[04:31] <damon_> #2 gnome apps would suddenly stop working - could not logout, could not open a terminal window
[04:31] <XsteelWolf> did you change the settings nvidia ask you to?
[04:31] <damon_> had to hard reset, until I realised opening a terminal window so I could sudo reboot was a wise move ;)
[04:31] <Hobbsee> yay, forums people are out of touch with reality, news at 11.
[04:31] <JediMaster> XsteelWolf: which settings?
[04:31] <damon_> (in other words, opening a terminal window before the crash would occur)
[04:32] <damon_> XsteelWolf: this was with the free driver, so I don't understand your questoin sorry
[04:33] <XsteelWolf> the one off nvidia website right?
[04:33] <damon_> XsteelWolf: no, the one that comes with gutsy
[04:33] <XsteelWolf> oh..
[04:34] <XsteelWolf> what driver are you using?
[04:34] <damon_> I am using only the software that I downloaded in the update
[04:34] <damon_> now I am using the restricted driver for older models
[04:34] <damon_> earlier I was using the free driver
[04:34] <XsteelWolf> get the latest from nvidia website
[04:34] <XsteelWolf> restricted driver isn't working good
[04:35] <damon_> it's working better than the free one, which was a disaster for me!
[04:35] <XsteelWolf> why?
[04:35] <damon_> something was locking up
[04:35] <damon_> no apps could be launched
[04:35] <damon_> couldn'
[04:35] <damon_> couldn't log out using the GUI
[04:36] <damon_> white was being rendered as brown
[04:36] <damon_> these were the main issues
[04:36] <damon_> and it would occur after perhaps 5 mins of use
[04:36] <damon_> randomly
[04:36] <damon_> I didn't know how to figure out what was the problem
[04:37] <damon_> as I couldn't do ctrl-alt-F1 and the like
[04:37] <qzio> XsteelWolf: yeah like i said, i dont have an xorg.conf.
[04:37] <XsteelWolf> wierd.
[04:37] <qzio> it's strange i know
[04:37] <XsteelWolf> damon_ you might be facing new bugs :P
[04:37] <XsteelWolf> does it appears on gutsy only?
[04:37] <qzio> i like to add the shmconfig true option to get gsynaptics to work
[04:37] <damon_> yes
[04:37] <damon_> never seen this before
[04:38] <damon_> one other bug, which I have reported, is that DisplaySize in xorg.conf is vital
[04:38] <damon_> or else the fonts are so tiny you cannot read them without a telescope ;)
[04:39] <XsteelWolf> lol
[04:39] <XsteelWolf> it's official release isn't here yet
[04:39] <XsteelWolf> :(
[04:41] <damon_> and any idea why gdm comes up with a resolution higher than my native resolution?  it becomes like a virtual screen, where you can pan around it
[04:41] <qzio> XsteelWolf: yeah we know (i hope) and thats why im on irc trying to get help/tell about my problem
[04:42] <Vegar> meh
[04:42] <Vegar> network manager and iwl4965 doesn't work
[04:42] <XsteelWolf> im still stuck with fiesty,waiting to move on to gutsy  because of driver issues as well,but still, hope it to be a beta version rather than alpha stages.
[04:42] <XsteelWolf> Vegar,im facing iwl4965 drivers issue on fietsy as well
[04:42] <XsteelWolf> doesn't work for me
[04:42] <Vegar> doesn't work at all?
[04:43] <Vegar> or is it just network manager that's not working?
[04:43] <XsteelWolf> doesn't work at all
[04:43] <XsteelWolf> sudo modprobe iwl4965
[04:43] <XsteelWolf> segementation fault.
[04:43] <XsteelWolf> no wireless thingy popup whatsoever.
[04:43] <Vegar> that's.. interesting
[04:43] <XsteelWolf> and after rebooting.system takes 10mins or so to boot
[04:43] <Vegar> it works for me
[04:43] <XsteelWolf> i had to remove the .ko file
[04:43] <XsteelWolf> you on fie or gu?
[04:44] <Vegar> gutsy
[04:44] <XsteelWolf> gutsy is working fine from what i heard
[04:44] <XsteelWolf> but no fiesty
[04:44] <XsteelWolf> have you installed on fie before?
[04:44] <Vegar> nope
[04:44] <Vegar> got it a few days ago
[04:44] <XsteelWolf> 4965 is being detected automactically yea?
[04:44] <Vegar> yes
[04:45] <XsteelWolf> which gutsy are you using?
[04:45] <Vegar> but network-manager doesn't do much
[04:45] <Vegar> I'm not sure, tribe 5 I think
[04:45] <riddlebox> can someone tell me if asterisk-1.4.x is in gutsy?
[04:45] <XsteelWolf> as long as you can connect through wlan is fine.
[04:45] <XsteelWolf> im not going to use the ethernet cable station in the living room
[04:46] <XsteelWolf> it would be better to surf from my room
[04:46] <Vegar> meh
[04:46] <Vegar> I broke my install
[04:46] <XsteelWolf> as in?
[04:46] <Vegar> no kernel modules
[04:47] <damon_> switching to a virtual console requires a hard reset, because the screen becomes scrambled and there is no way to come back
[04:48] <cypherdelic> dears
[04:49] <cypherdelic> im with current 7.10 on laptop, core 2 duo, geforce go 7600, who needs informations in anyway or needs help?
[04:50] <cypherdelic> cdda2wav is broken for my
[04:50] <cypherdelic> somebody gut it working?
[04:52] <cypherdelic> my sensor limits fail every startup
[04:52] <XsteelWolf> brb
[04:52] <XsteelWolf> watching evan almighty
[04:53] <Vegar> cypherdelic: can you adjust screen brightness with the proprietary nvidia driver?
[04:54] <cypherdelic> My Run Application does not work propperly
[04:54] <cypherdelic> Vegar
[04:54] <cypherdelic> yes i can
[04:54] <cypherdelic> Vegar: try 'nvclock -S 0-100
[04:55] <Vegar> I'll try that as soon as I get my system back up
[04:57] <cypherdelic> you can do furthermore with nvclock, in your xconf.org place ' Option "CoolBits" "1" ' and then adjust memory clock with 'nvclock -m (mhz)' or cpu with -n (mhz)
[04:57] <cypherdelic> you can do some scipting with those creating profiles
[04:58] <cypherdelic> i recommend you to add some commands from powertop if your platform is a notebook
[04:58] <Vegar> cool
[04:58] <Vegar> yes, it's a notebook
[04:58] <Vegar> Thinkpad T61
[04:59] <cypherdelic> ok i go to a clipboard site and post my profiles
[04:59] <cypherdelic> is it intel core ?
[04:59] <Vegar> yes
[04:59] <cypherdelic> is it nvidia go?
[04:59] <Vegar> no
[04:59] <Vegar> it's.. hmm.. let me check
[04:59] <Vegar> nVIDIA Quadro NVS 140M
[05:00] <cypherdelic> nice maybe coolbits have some special enhancements for you i never got one
[05:00] <cypherdelic> but nvclock should work
[05:01] <cypherdelic> please install powertop and run it as sudo
[05:01] <Vegar> I have
[05:02] <Vegar> but it never mentioned the nvidia card
[05:04] <cypherdelic> Vegar: ok watch this thats my Peformance Script, that i execute if im connected to a power source
[05:04] <cypherdelic> http://pastebin.com/d6cadbf1d
[05:04] <mikeconcepts> pls advise what controls the screen resolution of the gutsy gnome login screen, need to change it
[05:04] <Vegar> cypherdelic: ah, nice
[05:05] <cypherdelic> Vegar: And here the bottom is for Powersave
[05:05] <cypherdelic> http://pastebin.com/d40ed52ba
[05:06] <cypherdelic> you can even find out more with powertop
[05:10] <sparr> why is there not a debconf question for dolphin vs konqueror?
[05:10] <cypherdelic> i guess that firefox is already cool enough :)
[05:14] <Vegar> cypherdelic: I'll check that out, thanks alot
[05:17] <cypherdelic> Vegar: No prob
[05:18] <eleki1> hi all
[05:18] <eleki1> I try to see a dvd and like always, it's wars
[05:18] <_lemsx1_> eleki1: did you install libdvdcss ?
[05:19] <eleki1> I ve installed lots of stuff but it's seem I havent libdvdplay
[05:19] <eleki1> yep
[05:19] <eleki1> but apt-get see I havent that
[05:19] <_lemsx1_> eleki1: sudo /bin/sh /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[05:20] <_lemsx1_> eleki1: i have libdvdcss2 here. everything just works
[05:20] <sparr> what about firefox?
[05:21] <eleki1> nop, nothing work
[05:22] <eleki1> just one thing, I ve installed mediubuntu in my source.list
[05:22] <eleki1> but I use fiesty package
[05:22] <eleki1> heu fiesty repository
[05:22] <eleki1> is there any gibbon repository?
[05:23] <Vegar> hmm
[05:23] <Vegar> maybe I should try debian
[05:23] <eleki1> spar , what about ff?
[05:23] <_lemsx1_> eleki1: does the DVD that you are trying to see works on a regular DVD player?
[05:23] <eleki1> yep
[05:24] <eleki1> must I have to reboot?
[05:24] <eleki1> I can try a other if you want
[05:24] <eleki1> wait
[05:24] <_lemsx1_> eleki1: and you didn't change your region settings on the DVD player of your computer? is this for the right region?
[05:24] <Vegar> meh, I'll reinstall gutsy
[05:24] <Vegar> cypherdelic: what notebook do you have?
[05:25] <eleki1> damn, other dvd work
[05:25] <eleki1> sniff
[05:26] <eleki1> ho, all work now
[05:26] <eleki1> I touch nothing
[05:27] <eleki1> I thing , we have to say "remove all dvd before install libdvdcss"
[05:29] <_lemsx1_> eleki1: good
[05:32] <cypherdelic> Vegar: I have got a Sony VAIO FE31GZ
[05:32] <eleki1> in fact, my be there is a prob, the movie is bizarre he bloc on totem and on vlc he hatch (is it english?)
[05:33] <cypherdelic> Vegar: It has got a IntelCore2Duo with 2x183ghz, nvidia geforce go7600, 2gb ddr2 (533), 108mbit wlan, bluetooth, 200gb hard disk
[05:33] <cypherdelic> but goddamn no fckn com-port :D
[05:34] <cypherdelic> elekil: whats the point?
[05:34] <eleki1> in totem he block after 3 min 43 sec
[05:36] <eleki1> I can read the Third minuts and after, stop
[05:36] <eleki1> image blocked
[05:39] <cypherdelic> What about an GUI for CryptSetup luks??
[05:40] <penguin42> yeh I'd like that - it really should just sit nicely in nortilus
[05:41] <XsteelWolf> what's the difference in the dvd release of gutsy?
[05:42] <cypherdelic> XsteelWolf: i would say a dvd release of a developement version is useless
[05:42] <Tomcat_> But there is one. ;)
[05:42] <Tomcat_> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/current/
[05:42] <cypherdelic> yes but better get the cd and the get actual packages via internet
[05:43] <Tomcat_> XsteelWolf: They contain universe.
[05:43] <cypherdelic> saves you lot
[05:43] <Tomcat_> XsteelWolf: And so, yes, cypherdelic is quite right. ;)
[05:43] <XsteelWolf> universe?
[05:43] <Tomcat_> XsteelWolf: You'd download the universe repo and then never use current packages, because they change daily.
[05:43] <Tomcat_> !universe
[05:43] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:43] <Tomcat_> If you don't know what universe is, you better not run the dev version btw ;)
[05:45] <XsteelWolf> why not
[05:45] <eleki1> is there any udma probleme with a portable (mobile) pc (a dell inspiron)?
[05:45] <cypherdelic> i love to wake up in the morning, run apt-get {update,dist-upgrade} and then begin fixing the system until sun goes down, so dont do it, this damages decrease your social-accessebility
[05:46] <Tomcat_> XsteelWolf: The dev version breaks easily and you are not able to fix it or tell people about it. But to learn from, why not? :)
[05:47] <cypherdelic> hehe
[05:47] <cypherdelic> who grep | -i blonde
[05:47] <cypherdelic> talk; cd ~; wine; talk;touch; unzip; touch
[05:48] <cypherdelic> muha i need to go
[05:49] <JosefK> cypherdelic, the open bugs against 7.10-beta don't seem too bad
[05:50] <cypherdelic> i dont see many bugs in gutsy but many in compiz
[05:51] <JosefK> cypherdelic, agreed, but that's one of the first things I turn off anyway :)
[05:51] <cypherdelic> somebody announced to integrate fusion to gutsy, thats being hard work. 0.5.2 still freezes if i start any gl app or screensav.
[05:51] <billytwowilly> is k3b causing anyone else to crash when you burn a cd?
[05:52] <cypherdelic> its quite amazing that you need to disable all the Desktop Effect, GLTray Shit of gutsy to get compiz working properly
[05:52] <cypherdelic> i didnt know that and wasnt finding out for days why compiz acting weird with wrong settings etc
[05:54] <cypherdelic> cedego needs more developement to and innotek
[05:54] <cypherdelic> cedega i mean, and innotek virtual box
[05:54] <cypherdelic> great things, that seem to stuck
[05:54] <cypherdelic> nothing great happens, little bugfixes, but the big ones remain
[05:55] <cypherdelic> i reclaim that gaming, desktop enhancements and virtualising, are the main points that could make linux a better alternative
[05:56] <cypherdelic> in a massive way
[05:58] <Vegar> fusion?
[05:58] <BlueVette> Hello
[05:58] <Vegar> cypherdelic: I also have vista on my laptop
[05:58] <Vegar> cypherdelic: it's using 700/1000 MB RAM
[05:59] <Vegar> gaming is out of the question
[05:59] <Vegar> If I disable the swap file, I can barely launch any apps before it starts complaining about low memory
[06:00] <BlueVette> Have a Dell Inspiron 1420N (came with ubuntu), but now looking for a kde basesd distro.  Am running Tribe 5 live-cd now and have been impressed with hardware compatibility thus far. Everything works but the audio.  Are there known audio issues with ICH8M chipsets and tribe5?
[06:01] <BlueVette> although... perhaps it is because mp3 support is missing from livecd?   how can I test for audio present?  (can't try flash sites for audio, since there is no flash either)
[06:01] <Vegar> cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[06:02] <XsteelWolf> tomcat
[06:02] <Vegar> should give you some noise
[06:02] <XsteelWolf> you there?
[06:02] <Tomcat_> XsteelWolf: Yes.
[06:02] <XsteelWolf> i read about it
[06:02] <Vegar> BlueVette: it might be that the sound is muted
[06:02] <XsteelWolf> so basically universe is not supported
[06:02] <XsteelWolf> only those supported are put into main
[06:02] <XsteelWolf> that's why its not recommended?
[06:02] <gnomefreak> XsteelWolf: thats not true
[06:02] <BlueVette> not muted.  didn't hear anything with that command, Vegar. hmm
[06:02] <Tomcat_> No.
[06:02] <gnomefreak> universe is community supported
[06:03] <Vegar> BlueVette: if you give me two minutes, I'll have my laptop booted
[06:03] <Tomcat_> XsteelWolf: It's not recommended because the packages change daily and you'll have a DVD full of old packages.
[06:03] <Vegar> BlueVette: I just installed Ubuntu, I'll check what sound card I have.
[06:03] <XsteelWolf> oh
[06:03] <nanonyme> heh, the ubuntu version which i use is altogether community supported :/
[06:03] <nanonyme> that is, the ppc version was made unofficial...
[06:03] <gnomefreak> nanonyme: main restricted updates security are all maintained by core-devs
[06:04] <Vegar> BlueVette: My sound magically started working, I'm not quite sure what I did.
[06:04] <gnomefreak> not unofficial just ported
[06:04] <nanonyme> hmm?
[06:04] <BlueVette> well, kmix seems to ACT like the audio should be working.... just.. silence thus far.
[06:04] <nanonyme> gnomefreak, i meant the recent news that ubuntu dropped ppc support
[06:04] <gnomefreak> nanonyme: ppc is still supported
[06:04] <Vegar> BlueVette: which sound chip do you have?
[06:05] <nanonyme> what on earth. that's contrary to the news i read
[06:05] <BlueVette> intel ich8m
[06:05] <gnomefreak> nanonyme: not dropped altogether, it was moved from full support to basic support, you will still get updates for ppc hence its supported
[06:05] <Vegar> BlueVette: I have a 82801H
[06:05] <nanonyme> ah
[06:05] <Vegar> (ICH8 family)
[06:05] <gnomefreak> nanonyme: the ISO was moved from normal links to the ported links as ppc is going away as they are using intels now
[06:06] <BlueVette> hmm.... where is the hardware manager stuff in kubuntu?   I'm used to pclinxuos
[06:06] <DanaG> Wow, I just did a fresh install of Gutsy on my system (I'll be doing a full-restore from a backup later on), and I must say: the default font settings are ugly.
[06:06] <DanaG> I usually customize them to "DejaVu" fonts with subpixel rendering.
[06:06] <nanonyme> gnomefreak, i do know the reasons, i just have an old laptop so i need the ppc version
[06:06] <gnomefreak> nanonyme: as far as gutsy goes there are still ISOS for it and updates for it
[06:06] <DanaG> And the windows dodging around each other.....
[06:07] <gnomefreak> what they do in heron has yet to be decided
[06:07] <Vegar> Wow
[06:07] <Vegar> network manager magically started working
[06:12] <BlueVette> so.. if I install kubuntu to the HD then I can install things like flash 9 and mp3 support from the repositories?
[06:16] <DanaG> Plus, there's the lovely freeze with nvidia 100.14.11........
[06:19] <Vegar> how do I prevent a package from upgrading?
[06:21] <JediMaster> anyone had any experiences with compiz on xinerama dual view?
[06:21] <JediMaster> worked fine until I setup two cards/monitors (dual geforce 8800's)
[06:21] <JediMaster> now it just doesn't run
[06:21] <CyD_> hello
[06:22] <ptn107> Vegar: open up synaptic, select your package, and on the menu click 'package -> lock version'
[06:22] <Vegar> oh, yeah, right
[06:22] <Vegar> there's a GUI
[06:22] <Vegar> thanks
[06:24] <VousDeux> well, the last round of updates added a nice little synaptics icon to the applet panel, but it still says it can't access shared memory
[06:37] <Vegar> VousDeux: did you fix your SHMConfig issue?
[06:38] <VousDeux> Vegar, nope
[06:38] <Vegar> try setting it to "true" instead of "on"
[06:38] <Vegar> not sure if it makes a difference, but it's worth a try
[06:38] <VousDeux> yeah, I tried that already, I also try "On"
[06:39] <Vegar> ok
[06:39] <VousDeux> I think that document that says "true" is wrong...because that same doc spells the option TouchpaddOff
[06:40] <Vegar> well, I had it set to true
[06:40] <Vegar> (got it from a debian howto)
[06:40] <VousDeux> hmm...it must be a different manufacturer issue or something
[06:41] <VousDeux> from what I have read, it looks like Ubuntu has a history of problems with this
[06:42] <VousDeux> I keep thinking that maybe there is something somewhere else that I need to do to allow shared memory, or some other device is dominating the shared memory, but I'm not finding anything really along those lines...not exactly sure what I'm looking for anyway
[06:44] <VousDeux> I tried changing the priority between the mouse and touchpad (corepointer, alwayscore), and I tried disabling the USB mouse completly so that the touchpad was the only pointer device
[06:45] <VousDeux> I also tried adding the 'Load "synaptics"' line to the module section of the xorg.conf
[06:46] <VousDeux> I appreciate your concern :)
[06:49] <riddlebox> can anyone tell me what version of asterisk is included in the repos for gutsy?
[06:50] <Vegar> VousDeux: yeah, I just reinstalled ubuntu and came to the SHMConfig step, then I thought about you
[06:59] <ohad_> hi, anyone know why/when LEAP wep-enterprise will work with gutsy ?
[06:59] <ohad_> i'm running gutsy with thinkpad x61s using the intl wrapper
[07:00] <ohad_> with netW4x32 driver
[07:03] <dmakalsky> Hello, I upgraded from feisty to gutsy... how do I install LAMP via apt ?
[07:05] <scizzo-> dmakalsky: install them one by one?
[07:05] <dmakalsky> scizzo-: which packages do I need?
[07:06] <scizzo-> dmakalsky: you do know that lamp stands for: Linux, Apache, Mysql, PHP right?
[07:06] <dmakalsky> yes, but apache has a bunch of packages, no?
[07:07] <scizzo-> dmakalsky: well you would mostly use apache2
[07:21] <boojah> is it possible to get beryl working properly in gutsy? i can't get emerald-themes installed
[07:24] <geser> boojah: gutsy has no beryl, only compiz
[07:25] <geser> boojah: gutsy has no emerald-themes anymore
[07:25] <geser> but you should be able to install emerald with emerald-themes
[07:26] <boojah> yea, i know.. i managed to install beryl for feisty without any dependency problem.. but i wasn't able to install emereald-themes
[07:26] <JediMaster> AFAIK beryl has merged into "compiz fusion"
[07:27] <boojah> but ill need a window decorator right?
[07:27] <boojah> or has that merged in too?
[07:27] <geser> compiz has gtk-window-decorator (and also one specific for KDE)
[07:27] <geser> but emerald is also there
[07:28] <boojah> ok
[07:28] <boojah> ill check it out
[07:30] <boojah> does compiz-fusion have cube?
[07:30] <geser> yes
[07:30] <geser> compiz + beryl = compiz fusion
[07:31] <boojah> ohh :) sry, should have known
[07:33] <geser> when you install compizconfig-settings-manager you can fine tune your compiz settings
[07:38] <boojah> geser, where can i find that.. did you mean compiz-config-gnome?
[07:40] <geser> !info compizconfig-settings-manager
[07:40] <ubotu> compizconfig-settings-manager: Compiz configuration settings manager. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2+git20070912-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 498 kB, installed size 3268 kB
[07:40] <user01> if i install gutsy now will anything broken be fixed at release time with automatic updates?
[07:40] <geser> that one
[07:40] <geser> user01: should be
[07:41] <user01> geser:  ok i just need to reinstall and i dont want to install feisty only to upgrade in a couple weeks
[07:42] <user01> i would think if release is close gutsy must be fairly stable
[07:44] <user01> geser: is the daily build the most stable?
[07:45] <geser> you mean the daily cd?
[07:45] <user01> geser:  yep
[07:45] <geser> I don't know, I upgraded to gutsy weeks ago
[07:46] <RoC_MasterMind> what's proposed release date?
[07:47] <user01> geser:  oh well i see a tribe-5
[07:47] <boojah> geser, i got the setting manager.. how do i open it.. cant find the command for it
[07:47] <geser> boojah: ccsm
[07:48] <user01> better to use the tribe-5 or the gutsy alternate daily build cd?
[07:48] <boojah> ty
[07:49] <effie_jayx> user01,  the daily build has the mos recent updates
[07:49] <effie_jayx> user01,  if you download tribe 5 you will download a considerable amount of updates
[07:50] <user01> effie_jayx:  thats what i thought :)
[07:50] <IntuitiveNipple> Daily builds contain most updates, if you want to save on updates after installation
[07:50] <IntuitiveNipple> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/
[07:51] <user01> what kernel does gutsy use?
[07:51] <effie_jayx> user01,  2.6.22.11
[07:51] <effie_jayx> currently
[07:51] <effie_jayx> there is no kernel freeze thoug
[07:51] <effie_jayx> not yet
[07:52] <boojah> geser thanks alot.. im starting to make things work here.. the cube don't seem to be on the same hot keys as it was in berl.. do you know how to rotate it?
[07:53] <effie_jayx> boojah,  check if it is enabled
[07:53] <geser> is the cube rotate plugin activated?
[07:53] <boojah> its on
[07:53] <effie_jayx> user01,  check the timeline for gutsy here... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule
[07:54] <user01> ooh i think that will be good for my wireless card . . . it will be natively supported i think . . . how do i look fo module for my card in that kernel?
[07:54] <effie_jayx> user01,  if it is supported in feisty... chances are it'll still be supported in gutsy
[07:55] <user01> it wasnt i dont think
[07:55] <effie_jayx> what card is it?
[07:55] <user01> i download and did make make install from sierra wireless site
[07:55] <user01> aircard 875u
[07:58] <boojah> the cube dont work here.. the keys are set to <Control><Alt>Down
[07:59] <user01> i followed the directions at http://www.sierrawireless.com/faq/ShowFAQ.aspx?ID=602
[08:00] <IntuitiveNipple> boojah: how about Ctrl_Alt and drag mouse (primary mouse button down) ?
[08:00] <user01> then in the meantime i think it got supported in the kernel and now it just freezes
[08:01] <boojah> thats what ive been doing.. doesnt work
[08:01] <user01> so i was just going to install linux again since im not sure how to undo a make install
[08:01] <user01> :)
[08:01] <boojah> but i saw that the keys was set under general, theres no option for bindings.. could that be the cause?
[08:01] <hydrogen> user01: make uninstall
[08:02] <user01> hydrogen:  that will uninstall it?
[08:02] <hydrogen> yes
[08:02] <user01> the module?
[08:02] <user01> ah ok
[08:03] <IntuitiveNipple> the default key sequence for rotating the cube is Ctrl+Alt+left-cursor - is that what gconf-editor  shows?
[08:06] <boojah> in ccsm  Cube->Actions->General its key is Control+Alt+Down
[08:06] <geser> boojah: have you enough workspaces for a cube?
[08:07] <boojah> geser that might be it
[08:07] <boojah> ill check
[08:14] <boojah> geser.. seems i only had one workspace :P
[08:15] <boojah> thanks man
[08:23] <elekis> re hi
[08:23] <elekis> I need help, I can't read my dvd
[08:24] <elekis> first, what I have to put in my sources.list to have that
[08:24] <elekis> ?
[08:24] <elekis> I ve try medibuntu but that doesn't work
[08:24] <elekis> Ign http://fr.packages.medibuntu.org gusty Release
[08:25] <elekis> Err http://fr.packages.medibuntu.org gusty/non-free Sources
[08:25] <svu> anyone knows how to make dbus and hald start faster? It is annoying - waiting 2 mins for each of them
[08:25] <IntuitiveNipple> elekis: did you update apt after adding them? and then install libdvdcss ?
[08:25] <elekis> yep
[08:25] <IntuitiveNipple> svu: Sounds like something is timing out
[08:27] <gnomefreak> try without the fr.
[08:27] <elekis> I have that too
[08:27] <elekis> Impossible de rcuprer http://fr.packages.medibuntu.org/dists/gusty/free/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[08:27] <elekis> impossible to get
[08:27] <svu> IntuitiveNipple, I think so. but what exactly? same story on both x86_64 and ppc
[08:27] <elekis> oki
[08:27] <gnomefreak> although that repo doesnt look right to me
[08:28] <elekis> Err http://packages.medibuntu.org gusty/non-free Packages
[08:28] <elekis>   404 Not Found [IP: 193.34.16.167 80] 
[08:28] <elekis> it's worst
[08:28] <elekis> :D
[08:28] <gnomefreak> its either not ready for gutsy or its down than
[08:28] <IntuitiveNipple> elekis: Mine is set to: "deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ gutsy free non-free"
[08:30] <elekis> deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ gusty free non-free
[08:30] <elekis> exacly like my
[08:30] <elekis> mine
[08:31] <elekis> and your update work now?
[08:34] <elekis> Impossible de rcuprer http://packages.medibuntu.org/dists/gusty/non-free/source/Sources.gz  404 Not Found [IP: 193.34.16.167 80] 
[08:34] <IntuitiveNipple> let me test
[08:34] <IntuitiveNipple> Yes...
[08:34] <IntuitiveNipple> Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/multiverse Sources
[08:34] <IntuitiveNipple> Hit http://packages.medibuntu.org gutsy/non-free Packages
[08:34] <IntuitiveNipple> Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy-updates/main Packages
[08:36] <elekis> all write, I thing I m gonna learn to my pc to fly
[08:36] <IntuitiveNipple> Maybe you've got a temporary name-lookup or routing failure?
[08:36] <elekis> heu... sorry what thats mean?
[08:37] <elekis> how to clean all thing about apt-get?
[08:37] <IntuitiveNipple> elekis: I think i've found your problem...
[08:38] <elekis> yep
[08:38] <IntuitiveNipple> I pasted the URL you used above into Firefox and got a 404 error, so I removed the last section of the path  and tried again and still got a 404... I kept on removing the last path section until I got to a directory that was found (/dists/)
[08:39] <elekis> heu...
[08:39] <IntuitiveNipple> Then, from the list, I clicked on gutsy/ and it went to /dists/gutsy/ - but I'd just had a 404 trying that from your URL, so I think there is a bad character-code in your URL somewhere
[08:40] <IntuitiveNipple> so, what I suggest is, use Firefox and go to http://packages.medibuntu.org/dists/gutsy/ and make sure you can navigate into all the directories
[08:40] <IntuitiveNipple> then at least you know you've got a local configuration issue with your sources.list
[08:40] <jonathan_> Hey guys, how stable is gutsy at the moment?
[08:40] <gnomefreak> its not
[08:41] <jonathan_> gnomefreak, whats the main issues?  video drivers?  etc?
[08:41] <gnomefreak> gutsy will be stable in mid oct. until than you may and will get breakage
[08:41] <elekis> http://packages.medibuntu.org/dists/gutsy/non-free/binary-i386/
[08:41] <gnomefreak> jonathan_: no video seems fine
[08:41] <elekis> yeah I can, I can even download
[08:41] <elekis> the *.gz
[08:41] <gnomefreak> jonathan_: people have issues with kernels not booting package manager not working
[08:41] <jonathan_> gnomefreak, ahhh ok.
[08:41] <unggnu> hi all
[08:42] <IntuitiveNipple> elekis: so, check your sources.list really carefully for strange characters.
[08:42] <unggnu> Can anyone confirm this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/138094 ?
[08:42] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 138094 in xorg "[Gutsy]  desktop and keyboard freezes while mouse is moveable" [Undecided,New] 
[08:43] <unggnu> Does anyone have a Sony Laptop with intel graphic card?
[08:47] <elekis> I m lost, wait I copy past in a paste.bin
[08:47] <elekis> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37618/
[08:48] <elekis> I found
[08:48] <elekis> I don't no why,
[08:49] <elekis> but my gusty and dist are up-side down
[08:49] <IntuitiveNipple> unggnu: Yes
[08:49] <elekis> but how to change
[08:50] <IntuitiveNipple> elekis: This is mine http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37619/
[08:52] <elekis> thanks I try
[08:54] <elekis> thats work
[08:55] <IntuitiveNipple> cool :)
[08:55] <elekis> thanks
[08:55] <elekis> but that not resolve my dvd prob sniff
[08:56] <IntuitiveNipple> hehehe
[08:57] <elekis> thanks, but it's not for today
[08:57] <elekis> a++ I have to go
[09:00] <xinuc> hello world (tes
[09:01] <winbond> im trying to update gutsy, the  libpam0g says some services need to be restarted, when i hit next, it restarts the services, then hangs on loading startup scripts? how do i fix it?
[09:09] <raknam> why is the terminal so different in gutsy?
[09:09] <zerwas> When i see that there is an outdated package in gutsy, where should i ask if a new one will be packaged?
[09:10] <gnomefreak> zerwas: what package?
[09:10] <gnomefreak> raknam: its not
[09:10] <gnomefreak> raknam: atleast not g-t
[09:10] <zerwas> openarena https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/openarena/
[09:11] <gnomefreak> zerwas: you can file a bug but dont get hopes up
[09:11] <zerwas> gnomefreak, i thought filing a bug about a version request wasn't a good idea ;)
[09:12] <gnomefreak> zerwas: you have to as universe freeze is in place
[09:12] <raknam> gnomefreak: how do i run that?
[09:12] <gnomefreak> raknam: are you on gnome?
[09:12] <raknam> yea
[09:13] <gnomefreak> raknam: open the terminal
[09:13] <gnomefreak> raknam: application>accessories>gnome-terminal
[09:13] <gnomefreak> or terminal
[09:13] <raknam> haha, sorry, i'm a bit retarded
[09:13] <raknam> i was using UXterm
[09:14] <raknam> thanks
[09:15] <zerwas> gnomefreak, oops i have seen now that there is already bug 126078 :o)
[09:15] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 126078 in openarena "openarena 0.7.0" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/126078
[09:15] <smarticus> i seem to be missing the option to create a new desktop in tribe 5
[09:18] <winbond> im trying to update gutsy, the  libpam0g says some services need to be restarted, when i hit next, it restarts the services, then hangs on loading startup scripts? how do i fix it?
[09:18] <LinAsH> smarticus, are you talking of workspaces?
[09:18] <smarticus> LinAsH: yeah
[09:19] <LinAsH> smarticus, just click on preference on the Workspace Switcher
[09:19] <smarticus> LinAsH: i would if i could.  all i have is options for the Switcher
[09:19] <unggnu> IntuitiveNipple, Do you use the new Intel driver or i810?
[09:25] <LinAsH> smarticus, did you add a workspace switcher to your gnome panel?
[09:26] <smarticus> LinAsH: yup there is one there
[09:26] <LinAsH> smarticus, and no 'Preferences' when you right click on it??
[09:28] <smarticus> LinAsH: nope
[09:28] <smarticus> yeah its weird
[09:28] <smarticus> oh well
[09:38] <unggnu> IntuitiveNipple, Do you have a Sony laptop or you can confirm the bug I have posted?
[09:44] <hydrogen> how do i disable strigi from starting/running?
[09:48] <effie_jayx> can anyone try this to see if it is a bug?
[09:48] <effie_jayx> 1) browser for an image on nautilus 2) right click on it 3) try to open with the gimp
[09:49] <effie_jayx> and... nothing happens
[09:53] <magnetron> If i would upgrade from feisty to the final gutsy, which cd image should i download?
[09:53] <CheesyMonkey> I just installed a CLI version of the latest tribe, and built gnome using 'gnome-core' now i want to get the built in compiz working, ive installed the 'compiz' package and am running the nvidia drivers etc but i still dont get any window decorations with the error 'Checking for Xgl: not present.' yet it is in my xorg.conf
[09:54] <geser> effie_jayx: works here
[09:54] <effie_jayx> geser,  now that is a mistery then
[09:55] <effie_jayx> I can't move thing to other workspaces
[09:55] <effie_jayx> nor open things from the right click menu
[09:56] <effie_jayx> I can only open the image with the default "open" option in the right click menue
[09:58] <billytwowilly> anybody else having k3b crash their whole system when it finishes a cd?
[09:58] <zerwas> is it possible to look out for all kubuntu-bugs in launchpad?
[09:58] <geser> effie_jayx: but gimp works for you?
[09:58] <tapas> ~$ aplay -Djackplug *.wav
[09:58] <tapas> aplay: set_params:900: Sample format non available
[09:59] <tapas> jackplug is just a .asoundrc pcm device which uses the alsa jack pcm plugin
[09:59] <tapas> hmm
[09:59] <tapas> maybe i need to recompile that plugin
[09:59] <effie_jayx> geser,  it idoes
[09:59] <CheesyMonkey> To get xgl enabled in my X server does it require the package 'xserver-xgl'?
[10:00] <effie_jayx> but I try to open an image right clicking it and hitting the open with the gimp and it won't work
[10:01] <effie_jayx> I also noticed that I right click and select the move to workspace option and it doesn't work either
[10:01] <effie_jayx> so I wonder if it is a nautilus bug
[10:01] <tapas> hmm, same bug
[10:02] <Leonekl> hello folks
[10:02] <Leonekl> ive havent been trackin the upcoming 7.10 release
[10:02] <Leonekl> hows it coming along??
[10:15] <tapas> and programmable bash_completion for jack_connect is broken, too
[10:16] <tapas> though that's easy to fix
[10:16] <tapas> :)
[10:21] <tapas> erm, the report bug thing on launchpad didn't ask me for the ubuntu release
[10:25] <tapas> what's /ust/share/apport-qt btw?
[10:26] <tapas> and why would it want my password?
[10:26] <VousDeux> I think it logs crashes
[10:27] <VousDeux> if the process that crashed was a root process, it needs a password
[10:29] <tapas> ok
[10:29] <tapas> well
[10:29] <tapas> it seems it was something serious
[10:29] <VousDeux> it happened to me this morning...the /var/log/apport.log indicated that the nvidia-settings had crashed
[10:29] <tapas> because the box died completely after a few secs :)
[10:29] <tapas> [complete freeze, blinking LED's on keyboard
[10:30] <VousDeux> it does seem a little strange behavior to me too
[10:30] <tapas> [irc runs in a screen session on anoter host] 
[10:31] <tapas> oh well
[10:31] <tapas> and with the old kernel nvidia drivers don't work anymore
[10:33] <tapas> although linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-16-generic is installed
[10:33] <tapas> ["doesn't work" as in doesn't seem to exist] 
[10:34] <tapas> erm wrong, it does exist
[10:34] <tapas> but:
[10:35] <tapas> FATAL: Error running install command for nvidia
[10:35] <VousDeux> which nvidia adapter do you have?
[10:36] <tapas> one moment
[10:36] <tapas> GF 6800 LE
[10:36] <tapas> NV40.2
[10:37] <tapas> o, trying teh legacy package
[10:37] <VousDeux> have you tried nvidia-glx-new?
[10:39] <VousDeux> you would want to remove old kernel and header files that are not being used, including nvidia-kernel-source
[10:40] <tapas> hmm
[10:41] <tapas> are these packagesd to be installed  additionally to the restricted modules?
[10:42] <VousDeux> I don't think so
[10:42] <tapas> is there something special to do after selecting the nvidia-glx-new?
[10:42] <VousDeux> check for it's dependencies
[10:44] <tapas> hmm, doesn't make a difference
[10:44] <tapas> keep in mind that i booted into an old feisty kernel because the gutsy kernel died on me twice
[10:45] <tapas> [the upgrade process seems to have taken the old feisty kernels along though] 
[10:45] <tapas> no output in dmesg either
[10:45] <tapas> weird
[10:46] <VousDeux> oh, I thought you were on Gutsy
[10:46] <tapas> i am
[10:46] <tapas> the upgrade process doesn't seem to have removed the old feisty kernels though
[10:46] <tapas> so i booted one of those
[10:46] <tapas> [it still is a gutsy system] 
[10:47] <tapas> the gutsy kernel just died twice on me though, so now i try to get my X back with this olde kernel
[10:47] <Tomcat_> The upgrade process can't remove the old kernels because it would be dangerous in the event that the gutsy kernels don't work.
[10:47] <tapas> which is exactly what has happened here :)
[10:48] <tapas> i'll try adifferent gutsy kernel next
[10:49] <tapas> brb
[10:54] <tapas> ok, now nvidia doesn't load anymore in the gutsy kernel either :)
[10:54] <tapas>  2.6.22-11-rt :)
[10:55] <tapas> i'll just rfeinstall plain old nvidia-glx.. maybe it works again with that
[10:56] <tapas> ok, no dice
[10:57] <tapas> hmm
[11:00] <tapas> ok, 60hz 1280x1024 with the nv driver ;)
[11:01] <VousDeux> I think after you install the driver you need to boot into failsafe and run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:03] <tapas> well, modprobe nvidia should work anyways, no?
[11:03] <VousDeux> then, for nvidia-glx-new, you would make sure the nvidia driver was being referenced (not nv)...be sure, too, to select the proper resolutions using the space-bar to add the *
[11:04] <VousDeux> I'm not so sure that would do it
[11:04] <VousDeux> don't forget to backup your xorg.conf before you do this
[11:05] <VousDeux> then, if it doesn't work, all you have to do is restore you other xorg.conf
[11:06] <tapas> yeah, i'm aware of the benefits of creating backups :)
[11:06] <tapas> but it can't be said often enough :)
[11:06] <VousDeux> you may find this document useful: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_100.14.06.html
[11:07] <tapas> ii don't use amd64
[11:07] <VousDeux> it has some good details about the xorg.conf
[11:08] <VousDeux> there is probably a 32-bit version of that doc tool
[11:08] <tapas> hey, i run linux since over 10 years :) the xorg.conf is not the prblem
[11:08] <VousDeux> Okay
[11:09] <tapas> the nvidia driver does not get loaded.. i guess something else is borken
[11:09] <VousDeux> you probably know way more about it than I do
[11:10] <tapas> dunno.. doing something for long doesn't mean one is good at it ;)
[11:10] <tapas> i just stumbled across the restricted manager..
[11:10] <tapas> will go into console and see what it does\
[11:11] <VousDeux> I just went through all of this over the past couple of days, but I am running on x86-64, so some of the stuff that worked for me may not help you at all
[11:11] <tapas> VousDeux: did you get a similar error message?
[11:12] <tapas> oh great, restricted manager is a gui app :)
[11:12] <VousDeux> a lot of what you described sounded similar to things I saw while trying to get my nvidia working
[11:13] <tapas> well, the problem doesn't seem to be a problem of the driver per se.
[11:13] <tapas> [otherwise i would get some output in the dmesg] 
[11:13] <tapas> but modprobe seems to do some other mumbo jumbo
[11:13] <VousDeux> mine is working fairly well now, but it is not 100% for sure yet
[11:13] <tapas> [using some script. and that is what fails] 
[11:14] <VousDeux> which makes it kinda sound like your driver is not compatible with your kernel to me...but I could be talking from by backside
[11:14] <tapas> well, the install script is i think a feature of the linux module loading mechanism
[11:14] <tapas> you can run arbitrary scripts before module insertion [and after] 
[11:14] <tapas> now i need to find the appropriate place in ubuntu
[11:16] <tapas> /etc/modprobe.d/lrm-video
[11:16] <tapas> that it is i think
[11:16] <exio> hi... i'm running gutsy and trying to compile a c file, and i installed libc6-dev as well as build-essential and i'm still not able to find any results from "locate stdio.h"
[11:16] <tapas> ah that keeps the different versions apart
[11:16] <VousDeux> I was thinking about /etc/init.d/rc.local or something, but I may be way off base
[11:17] <tapas> exio: did you instrall a c compiler?
[11:17] <exio> yes
[11:17] <exio> i have gcc and g++
[11:17] <tapas> VousDeux: have a look at the file i posted
[11:18] <tapas> exio: that's because your locate db is out of date
[11:18] <tapas> exio: ls /usr/include/stdio.h
[11:18] <tapas> :)
[11:18] <tapas> it's in libc6-dev
[11:18] <tapas> ~$ dpkg -S /usr/include/stdio.h
[11:18] <tapas> libc6-dev: /usr/include/stdio.h
[11:19] <VousDeux> Okay, well good luck...I need to get caught up on my market analysis for the coming week
[11:20] <tapas> VousDeux: ok, have funand thanks for your time anyways :)
[11:20] <nethenson> hello
[11:20] <nethenson> i am using konsole 1.6.6 on kde 3.5.7 (on kubuntu gutsy) ... is there a way i can get rid of the 'python console, mc console...'?
[11:23] <exio> tapas: how long does updatedb usually take
[11:23] <exio> nvm, just finished finally
[11:23] <nethenson> exio: maybe 3-7 minutes...
[11:25] <exio> thanks guys... must be having a different problem here.  i have a feeling it has to do with flex
[11:28] <tapas> nethenson: sorry, don't understant your question
[11:30] <atlfalcons866> how do i upgrade to gusty right now
[11:31] <miki> sudo apt-get update
[11:32] <miki> sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:33] <nethenson> tapas: in konsole, in the session menu.. you can see 'python session, mc session..' in   configure konsole menu, you can add new sessions, but can't delete the existing ones :S
[11:39] <tapas> nethenson: hmm, no idea. ask in #kde
[11:39] <tapas> nethenson: probably there's some default fiel somehwere
[11:43] <tapas> i hate scripts that just silently fail
[11:43] <atlfalcons866> is gusty staoke
[11:43] <atlfalcons866> staple
[11:44] <atlfalcons866> stable
[11:45] <Matir> atlfalcons866, are you asking if it works stably or is called ubuntu "stable"?
[11:47] <atlfalcons866> is it stable to use right now
[11:49] <tapas> not for me :)
[11:49] <nosrednaekim> anyone tried the ATI8.41 driver?
[11:50] <SlimG> Why isn't the newest fglrx driver 8.40.4 available in the gutsy repos instead of the current 8.37.6 ?
[11:50] <nosrednaekim> because the newest one has GPL problems I think.
[11:50] <nosrednaekim> and breakages..
[11:50] <nosrednaekim> and no performance increases
[11:51] <SlimG> nosrednaekim: thanks for the quick and accurate answer :)
[11:52] <nosrednaekim> I hope it was accurate
[11:55] <tapas> ok, for the -rt kernel no nvidia module seems to exist in restricted
[11:57] <maelcum> hi! i don't have the gtk libraries installed and don't feel like intallin them for the update manager. how strongly is it recommended to use it instead of apt-get/aptitude ?
[11:58] <maelcum> to get gutsy, of course
[12:01] <nosrednaekim> apt-get is good enough.
[12:01] <nosrednaekim> aptitude is reportedly even better
[12:04] <maelcum> good. i prefere aptitude anyway :)
[12:04] <maelcum> p
[12:04] <maelcum> *prefer
[12:04] <maelcum> damn typos
[12:42] <pygi> damn, gutsy overheating my laptop
[12:43] <gnomefreak> pssssst feisty doesnt ;)
[12:44] <gnomefreak> pygi: wait for kernel this week there should be some good fixes in it (atleast a few)
[12:44] <pygi> gnomefreak, or switch back to debian :p
[12:44] <gnomefreak> not sure of all of them other than the 64 xen fixes
[12:44] <gnomefreak> debians not worth the trouble IMHO
[12:45] <gnomefreak> and its too plain for me
[12:46] <pygi> gnomefreak, well, but at least it doesnt kill my laptop? :P
[12:46] <gnomefreak> pygi: true
[12:50] <pygi> wish me luck :)
[12:52] <gnomefreak> good luck
[01:09] <sandy> can anyone tell me how to install cadega in gusty
[01:09] <sandy> cedega
[01:09] <gnomefreak> !cedega
[01:09] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega