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Vegarwhat do I need to get the ubuntu splash on my custom kernel?01:16
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gnomefreakmauri: than im not sure ask in kde how to fix it but first fix your kdm01:16
cps1966installer asumes utc on clocks01:16
cps1966not on all systems though01:17
gnomefreakcps1966: bios is right and hes set to rome so there is something wrong there unless he didnt restart after changes01:17
cps1966well i set mine to ny time and it was 4 hours off01:18
maurignomefreak: ok..if  turn 2 hours anticlockwise...also the bios time will chage01:18
gnomefreakmauri: not likely01:19
cps1966it does when you reboot does same here01:19
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c1|freakywhere can i find dialy images for kubuntu?01:37
c1|freakyfound it, thx01:37
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VousDeuxcool, I got sshfs working02:01
VousDeuxno thanks to the rude jerk in #cygwin02:02
cps1966VousDeux:  are you the one that has 6800 go02:03
VousDeuxI have 8600-GT02:03
cps1966ok the nvidia driver only supports up to 5700go02:04
VousDeuxI know it's not supported yet, but if there is a way to get better performance than VESA out of it, it would be cool02:05
cps1966xorg driver might work02:05
VousDeuxmight be worth a try :)02:05
VousDeuxdoes anyone know of a tool that will scan my hardware and give me a better idea of what challenges I need to address?02:07
cps1966GeForce 8600 GT 0x0402 it will in 64 bit02:08
VousDeuxlike maybe just tell me if it is working properly or unrecognized02:08
VousDeuxcool. x86-64 is what I'm using.02:09
cps1966good then make sure you get rid of all old kernels and headres02:09
VousDeuxI already got rid of old kernels :) thanks02:09
cps1966you want nvidia-glx-new02:10
VousDeuxis it out there now?02:10
cps1966yes for gutsy02:10
VousDeuxoh, cool. do I just apt-get nvidia-glx-new then?02:11
cps1966ithink you can02:11
cps1966install02:11
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VousDeuxoh, it's right there in adept02:11
VousDeuxthanks for the heads-up!02:11
cps1966make sure it get dependacys02:12
VousDeuxOkay02:12
cps1966like kernel headers nvidia-glx-new also02:12
cps1966nvidia-new-kernel-source02:16
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cps1966i use to many distros02:19
VousDeuxOkay, So I have nvidia-glx-new and nvidia-new-kernel-source02:26
VousDeuxis there anything else I need?02:27
VousDeuxI also ran the nvidia-glx-config enable02:27
cps1966you might have to poke it to get it going dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg should do it pick the nvidia driver02:28
VousDeuxOkay. I'm going to try restarting X now02:28
VousDeuxthanks again02:28
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cps1966did it work02:38
VousDeuxwell, I did have to go in and poke it with a stick, but when I rebooted it came up clean with an nVidia splash before the logon screen.02:38
cps1966cool02:38
VousDeuxthanks a million!02:38
cps1966yup02:39
cps1966np02:39
VousDeuxI sure do appreciate all of the great help here02:39
cps1966does your sound work ok02:39
VousDeuxI think so, but I'm not sure how to verify02:40
cps1966you should here sound at startup02:40
VousDeuxthe touch pad is the thing giving me the most fits right now...it keeps messing with my typing02:40
VousDeuxyeah, I do, but this thing is supposed to have 5.1 audio, so I guess I would need a sound test that would bounce to all speakers one-at-a-time02:41
cps1966you need mp3 file or audio cd02:42
VousDeuxhmm...I'll have to google for a sound test file I guess02:43
cps1966you need some mp3 decoders also02:43
VousDeuxyeah, I have mp3 sound working02:43
cps1966i doing old yardbirds stuff right now02:44
VousDeux:)02:44
cps1966i'm old02:44
cps1966be 60 in january02:45
VousDeuxI'm not exactly a spring chicken either :)02:45
VousDeuxI'm 4302:45
cps1966thats cool wish i was 43 again02:45
VousDeuxso, the 1966 in your nick is for what?02:47
cps1966the year i graduated02:47
VousDeuxahhh02:47
cps1966went crazy02:47
VousDeuxI graduated in 198002:47
cps1966my youngest son is 1402:48
VousDeuxwell, actually 1979, but they didn't give me my diploma until 198002:48
cps1966my oldest is 3502:48
VousDeuxI have three boys...20, 19, 1502:48
cps1966thats cool02:49
cps1966i had to play with women a bit in between02:49
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radiuswhat day cps1966 - mins is the 8th02:49
radiusmine*02:49
cps196616th02:50
VousDeuxahh...I've been married to my only wife for 22 years this November02:50
radiusstill in the capi zone (:02:50
cps1966my daughters is the 6th02:50
cps1966my sons is the 15th02:50
radiusall in jan? wow02:50
radiusmy sis is the 1st02:50
cps1966good vibs02:50
radiushard heads (:02:51
VousDeuxmy youngest is an April fool baby :)02:51
cps1966yeah02:51
radiusi fit the goat profile to a T02:51
VousDeuxbut he's no fool02:51
cps1966i'm testing this kooka02:51
cps1966takes for ever to warm up though02:52
VousDeuxbrb02:52
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VousDeuxI'm going to restart X again. That nVidia update took out my Option SHMConfig "on" line (that wasn't working anyway), I want to see if for some reason it does work now.03:02
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VousDeuxwell, the touch pad config has not improved, but I was able to select a widescreen monitor without blowing up03:09
VousDeuxhmmm...it isn't offering me choice to select any resolutions other than 1680x1050 or 1920x120003:11
cps1966sudo nvidia-settings03:11
VousDeuxOkay03:13
cps19661920x1200 is good for 24 inch monitor03:14
VousDeuxyeah, but mine is only 17"03:14
cps1966make sure you save it to xorg.conf file03:14
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VousDeuxI couldn't find anything in there that looked like it needed to be changed. The only resolution available in there was 1680x1080.03:30
cps1966you need 1440x90003:31
VousDeuxI guess maybe I need to run dpkg-reconfigure again to add more03:31
cps1966yup03:31
VousDeuxyeah, because my eyes aren't that good03:31
cps1966huh yours03:32
cps1966i have 1440x900 on 19 invh wide screen03:32
VousDeuxI have a hard time up close03:32
cps1966me to far sighted03:32
cps1966not so much anymore though ,just blind03:33
VousDeuxI have glasses now, but I can't seem to get the hang of using them03:33
cps1966huh i did afer i was 4503:33
VousDeuxthey sold them to me a couple of years ago,,,been in the case pretty much ever since03:34
cps1966yeah i have new ones but them suckers are to much for me03:35
VousDeuxOkay, that battery LED is staying off now...maybe I do have a hardware problem03:35
VousDeuxthey gave me some weird bi-focals...pain in the butt03:36
cps1966yeah same here03:37
VousDeuxprogressive bi-focals is what I think they called them03:37
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cps1966that means you dont have to tilt your head back all the way03:38
VousDeuxwhich sounds good, but it seems like they don't line up from eye to eye..only one eye looks clear at a time03:39
VousDeuxI tried to get them adjusted, but still doesn't seem right03:39
cps1966over powered03:39
VousDeuxI think I will go somewhere else next time...I got these from Wal-Mart03:40
cps1966oh gee03:40
VousDeuxOkay, I'm going to try messing with that dpkg-reconfigure again03:42
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cps1966add 1280x800 also03:43
VousDeuxOkay03:44
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cps1966well did it go well04:01
VousDeuxOkay, that didn't seem to go as well as I'd hoped. I still only have 1680x1050, and nvidia-settings says: (nvidia-settings:6062): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display04:02
VousDeuxhmmm...I wonder if was the monitor setting where it asks for the monitors best display setting04:03
stdinVousDeux: make sure you're running it as your user, not as root04:03
VousDeuxI did choose 1680x1050 for that04:03
stdinor with gksu/kdesu04:03
cps1966did you put in 1440x90004:03
VousDeuxI did, and 1280x800 too04:04
cps1966hmm04:04
VousDeuxI ran it with sudo04:04
VousDeuxwas sudo a mistake?04:04
stdinyeah, use gksu or kdsu (depending on if you you gnome or kde)04:05
cps1966na its the only way it will save it to xorg.conf04:05
VousDeuxso I just type kdsu then?04:05
stdinif it's kde, "kdesu nvidia-settings"04:05
cps1966hes reconfiguring xserver-xorg04:06
stdindon't use sudo with GUI apps, it's bad04:06
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VousDeuxthat did bring up the settings...I must have snoozed the kdesu part04:07
cps1966i have to go for now bbiab04:07
VousDeuxokay, thanks for your help04:07
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JediMasterhey all, got a problem with tribe 504:07
JediMasterthe live cd doesn't seem to work with my network interface04:08
JediMasterI can't get my NForce network to work. it seems to setup the "forcedeth" module for it, and sets up 2 interfaces, eth0/1 but neither find a dhcp, and with static settings I can't ping anything on the network04:08
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JediMasterthis bug has been reported already by the looks of it: #136836 and I have exactly the same issue04:09
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Yasumoto_JediMaster: would you mind adding a comment saying that it happens to you too?04:21
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JediMastersure, I've also found the solution =)04:21
Yasumoto_sweetness, add that too :D04:22
JediMasteradding this to the modprobe options file: options forcedeth msi=0 msix=004:22
JediMasterthen rmmod/modprobing it and ifdown/ifup and the interface suddenly works and finds the dhcp04:22
JediMasterYasumoto_: next issue =)04:25
Yasumoto_mm, gotcha04:26
Yasumoto_yeah, seriously :)04:26
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JediMasterthe installer doesn't see my raid 0 striped drives, it sees them individually, and when firing up gparted it complains about partitions starting off teh end of the disk04:26
JediMasterI presume then that the bios is presenting the disks seperately rather than one raid'ed drive04:28
Yasumoto_all that I remember about raid04:29
Yasumoto_is that if it's a software raid04:29
Yasumoto_you need to do something to set it up04:29
JediMasterI set it up through the bios before setting up any OS on the machine04:29
JediMastervista saw it with no aditional drivers04:29
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JediMasterI have some basic knowledge of mdadm etc, but this is definately not setup through linux, it was just through the bios04:30
Yasumoto_huh. interesting04:30
VousDeuxI tried running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg again, I can still only select 1680x1050 as a resolution04:31
Yasumoto_VousDeux: I don't know what your situation is, but you're using spacebar to asterisk other resolutions, right? (I used to hit enter or something I think)04:32
Yasumoto_and it didn't work properly04:32
VousDeuxyeah, I'm using spacebar04:32
VousDeuxwhen I run kdesu nvidia-config I get several errors: http://rafb.net/p/lIfE8M47.html04:33
VousDeuxwhen I click 'Save to X Configuration File' the console window says: sh: pkg-config: not found04:34
JediMasterYasumoto_: apparently it's "fake raid"04:34
VousDeuxthe xorg.conf does acknowledge the video modes: Modes      "1680x1050" "1440x900" "1280x800"04:35
Yasumoto_VousDeux: bogus04:35
Yasumoto_JediMaster: does that mean you need to use mdadm?04:36
VousDeuxthe problem is that installed the new nvidia driver, but I can't choose a different resolution from the nvidia-settings04:36
VousDeuxI'm not complaining as much as I am just reporting back to those who were helping me04:37
Yasumoto_VousDeux: yeah, gotcha04:37
VousDeuxquite frankly, I am very pleased with the progress I have made so far...it's far more than I expected since the hardware is all so new04:38
VousDeuxthis channel has been very resourceful :)04:39
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VousDeuxcan anyone see any problems with my xorg.conf: http://rafb.net/p/WK4al259.html04:44
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VousDeuxI'm especially interested in getting my touch pad so that I can configure it, but it keeps telling me I need to add that 'Options "SHMConfig" "on"' line even though it is already there and I have rebooted the computer.04:46
PumpernickelVousDeux: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=8b3599b676d12dbb665af769fe8e7f03&t=168581&page=3 seems relevant to your problem.  Link goes to page 3; step-by-step starts at page 1.04:50
VousDeuxhey, thanks a bunch!04:51
JediMasterYasumoto_: I think this should solve my nvraid problem: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FakeRaidEdgy04:51
JediMasterquite a lot of work though, but I guess this is not a gusty specific problem04:51
JediMasterright, it's 4am I should really get some sleep, thanks for  the help =)04:51
VousDeuxyou're a die-hard too :)04:52
Yasumoto_nice JediMaster :)04:53
Yasumoto_bonus points if you can upgrade it to gutsy :)04:54
Vegaris there a way to apply a patch to the most recent kernel in the apt repository and get a set of .debs like those you find in apt?04:58
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VousDeuxrestarting X again...brb05:05
n0ydAnyone know if the grub package supplied in gutsy is patched for reiser4?05:05
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VousDeuxwell shoot...that synaptics touch pad link didn't seem to do me much good other than teaching me a couple of new lessons about xorg.conf05:35
Vegarhaving trouble with your touchpad?05:35
VousDeuxI thought maybe the error was talking about shared memory between the usb mouse and the touch pad, so I tried commenting out the mouse section and unplugging it05:36
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VousDeuxVegar, yeah, can't adjust settings. It keeps telling me to add 'Option "SHMConfig" "on"05:36
VousDeuxbut it's already in there05:37
Vegaris it in the right section?05:37
VousDeuxoh yes, for sure05:37
VousDeuxhttp://rafb.net/p/WK4al259.html05:38
Vegarthat's strange05:39
VousDeuxsince I pasted that entry I have made one more modification05:39
Vegarit works on my thinkpad05:39
VousDeuxI added to the synaptics section 'Option "AlwaysCore"'05:40
VousDeuxwhen I click Keyboard & Mouse, in System Settings, it says: Touch pad configuration inaccessible - System Settings | Shared Memory is not accessible...05:42
VousDeuxthen it says to add that line to the xorg.conf05:43
VousDeuxhmmm....I wonder if my user just doesn't have read rights on xorg.conf or something05:43
VousDeuxhow are the rights assigned to your xorg.conf?05:44
Vegardo you run xorg as your user?05:44
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VousDeuxI'm not sure what you mean05:44
VousDeuxI have been using sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf to edit it05:44
hydrogenhave you restarted xorg since adding it?05:45
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VousDeuxoh yes, I tried just restarting X, and doing a complete reboot05:46
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VousDeuxsynclient -l05:48
VousDeuxCan't access shared memory area. SHMConfig disabled?05:48
VousDeuxNo.05:48
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m1keapt package manager appears to be broken.  It fails to completely update,and I get the same error daily for this last week.  Then it always wants me to reboot my computer, but the problem is never fixed.  http://www1.uploadhut.com/viewimage.php?type=2&id=23369-Screenshot-synaptic.png05:53
hydrogenhave you looked through here VousDeux?05:54
hydrogenhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=97542105:54
VousDeuxI'll check and see if I have seen that one already...thanks!05:54
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n0ydWhy the hell does sun-jave6-plugin depend on firefox.  It shouldn't ever depend on one particular browser.05:55
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hydrogenbecause ita a mozilla plugin05:56
d4rkmonkeylol05:56
n0ydhydrogen: It works on other mozilla broswers05:56
hydrogenthen file a bug05:56
n0ydNot just firefox. Like epiphany, galeon, kazehakase, swiftfox etc05:56
hydrogennot sure how well apt handles "OR" dependancies05:57
hydrogenthough it should be fine with it05:57
n0ydHeck, it even works on KHTML based browsers like konqueror05:57
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d4rkmonkeyAHHH!05:58
d4rkmonkeywait..05:59
d4rkmonkeynevermind...05:59
d4rkmonkeyFALSE ALARM!05:59
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hydrogenerr06:02
hydrogenn0yd: it doesn't require firefox here06:02
hydrogenDepends: firefox  |Depends: <iceweasel>  |Depends: <mozilla-firefox>  |Depends: iceape-browser  |Depends: <mozilla-browser>  |Depends: epiphany-browser  |Depends: galeon  |Depends: konqueror  |Depends: midbrowser06:03
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deobfuscatePackages are held back because they are missing dependencies correct?06:07
m1keapt package manager appears to be broken.  It fails to completely update,and I get the same error daily for this last week.  Then it always wants me to reboot my computer, but the problem is never fixed.  http://www1.uploadhut.com/viewimage.php?type=2&id=23369-Screenshot-synaptic.png06:07
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deobfuscate!help06:10
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots06:10
n0ydhydrogen: right, it's still pointless.  I like swiftfox, not any of those broswers that thew pkg is tied to.06:10
n0ydIt was fixed before in other releases of Ubuntu, so it should be fixed again. Big report submitted.06:10
d4rkmonkeyis there any way to see which kernels I have installed currently?06:12
d4rkmonkeywait.. I found out how!06:13
d4rkmonkeyapt-get remove linux-image-<kernel version>      should uninstall old kernels right?06:13
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d4rkmonkey?06:16
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VousDeuxwhen I do lsmod, should I see synaptics on the list?06:21
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No1VikingGuys.... where can I find Realplayer with the plugin for Gutsy?06:32
RAOFd4rkmonkey: Yes, that's right.  "sudo aptitude remove linux-image-<kernel version>" should work.06:35
d4rkmonkeyk06:35
d4rkmonkeythanks RAOF06:35
tifine_Hi,  I want to change the default port of my router web-server does anybody have an idea?06:35
No1VikingGuys.... where can I find Realplayer with the plugin for Gutsy? I tried to install the .bin without luck. Any ideas please?06:40
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npurcifulwhats up06:43
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dfgasanyone using the newest version of virtual box on gusty? I am experiencing crashes with it06:51
VousDeuxI don't even think it's reading the xorg.conf settings for the touch pad. I just tried 'Option "TouchpadOff" "0"' and "1"...neither one of them disabled the touch pad.06:51
VousDeuxI don't believe how many hours I have into this problem...it's starting to get on my nerves06:52
VousDeuxwell...maybe better luck next time. Good night.06:54
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npurcifuldfgas: i am using the feisty repo for virtualbox on gutsy havent had problems with it07:11
npurcifuldfgas: take that back the is a update to the one i have07:11
npurcifullet me install it07:12
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sparrim having a problem with gimp closing/segfaulting/exceptioning at random after 1-20 minutes of use.  anyone else seeing that?07:14
contrast83That couldn't be a VRAM issue could it?07:15
sparrentirely possible07:15
contrast83What card?07:20
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DanaGwtf?  I can't boot from a burned Gutsy cd-rw.07:21
DanaGBut CD-R seems to work, I think.  I'm burning that one now.07:21
contrast83I've had that issue several times w/ RW's, Dana07:21
contrast83They seem to not be very good for boot discs. I've had that problem when using them w/ other distro's live CD's as well, so it's not just an Ubuntu thing.07:22
DanaGThat's what I figured.07:22
DanaGBut if you can't boot from them, then what good are they?07:23
DanaGThat's the only thing I use writable CDs for, most of the time.07:23
contrast83Well, I'm using one right now as a boot CD, but who knows how long it'll last. :-\07:23
DanaGWell, one factor: I burned it in an older drive, that's also a 4x single-layer DVD burner.07:24
contrast83It's a very intermittent issue from my experience. It'll work fine as a boot disc for a few weeks, then it decides to stop working.07:24
DanaGPlus, I've had some CD-RW disks fail to erase, too.07:24
DanaGMy solution to that: stick them in the window, facing direct sunlight for a few hours, and then full-erase them.07:26
DanaGI found that online in some forums somewhere.07:26
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Aondohm will the default implementation of compiz-fusion cause X to crash on use of other opengl applications? atleast for me that is the case, still.07:43
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RAOFAondo: That bug has been filed, and it's an Xorg ABI change.07:53
Aondook07:58
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RAOFAondo: So, you'd want to be monitoring bug #13032508:02
ubotuLaunchpad bug 130325 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 "[nvidia-glx]  3D GL apps crash X when using compiz due to unmaked ABI change (gutsy)" [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13032508:02
Aondoye, thanks. my thoughts was that it would be quite unwise to bring it forward as default, with such a crazy bug :D08:04
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Xemanthuhm I did Feisty -> Gutsy dist upgrade and now my kde ain't loading anymore to desktop09:25
Xemanthwhen X starts kstartupconfig says error09:26
Xemanthwhen i try to start it in cli mode it says "bus error" :D09:27
Xemanth"Could not start kstartupconfig. Check your installation" says kde exactly09:27
RAOFThat sounds like you're on PowerPC.09:27
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XemanthRAOF: meh ?09:28
Xemanthi'm on i386 :P09:28
RAOF"Bus error" sounds particularly powerpcish :)09:28
RAOFx86 tends to call that a segfault09:29
Xemanthwhen I click okey in that window, then it says could not start kdeinit09:29
Xemanthwhen I run kdeinit in cli it says bus error too"09:29
Xemanth:D09:29
Xemanthkconf_update -----> "bus error"09:31
Xemanthatm situation looks pretty bad09:34
Xemanthits like all kde stuff say that09:36
Xemanthbut i can run irssi etc in cli09:36
hyljetrain error09:36
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Xemanthhylje: train error ? choosoo09:37
Xemanthchoochoo error09:37
Xemanthdo you know any debug command which would give some more info about what causes bus error09:37
hyljenop09:38
hyljei'm though suggesting you have a funny qt/kdelib09:38
Xemanthhmm09:39
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MilhousePunkRockHello everone!09:39
MilhousePunkRockDoes someone know what I need to do to get the "new" KDM theme and Ksplash on my Kubuntu gutsy system? KDM theme is default and ksplash, well, whatever I choose it to be, but there is no choice for the kubuntu-default one...09:40
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sandyi am using 7.10 ubnutu and i am not able to update and upgrade the system and there are problems with fusion when ever i am starting fusion the title bar of all windows are going what to do?10:07
sandyi am using 7.10 ubnutu and i am not able to update and upgrade the system and there are problems with fusion when ever i am starting fusion the title bar of all windows are going what to do?10:07
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minimecHi folks. I gave Gusty a try. Nice work :) It seems that there are still some problems with the compiz configuration.10:25
minimecOne thing I would like to change is to add some more Desktops.10:26
minimecUnfortunally I was not able to do so...10:26
minimecAny Ideas?10:26
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jsomersminimec: you should install compizconfig-settings-manager10:28
jsomersit's an advanced control panel10:29
minimecjsomers, I did so and I added some Desktops in the 'general settings' menu. No effect10:29
minimecjsomers, 'general settings' 'desktop size' ...10:30
minimecjsomers, I have 4 Desktops in the Desktop-Switcher-Applet in the gnome panel, but I can only switch two of them with Ctrl-Alt-Right10:32
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minimecoups... Now the gnome-panel has gone ;)10:33
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minimeckillall gnome-panel gave me back my panel. Looks like the ccsm switcher-applet does completly ignore the Desktop settings.10:37
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minimecI will continue to debug ;)10:45
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mewt'lo10:52
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enycIm a bit puzzled by this -- ubuntu Gutsy has "cdrtools" in "multiverse" (i.e. nonfree) -- but the 3 binary packages it generates are in   Main,universe,universe ...  whats going on here?11:06
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=== enyc waits ;-)
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h1st0compizconfig-settings-manager needs to be in ubuntu-desktop11:09
Zemus:|11:09
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Zemus:P11:09
enycZemus: ?how did that happen?11:09
Zemusenyc, I guess I haven't been keeping up? I don't see any info on the main ubuntu page, could you link me?11:10
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Zemushttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule, I guess...11:10
sandyi am using 7.10 ubnutu and i am not able to update and upgrade the system and there are problems with fusion when ever i am starting fusion the title bar of all windows are going what to do?11:10
enycZenton: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon11:11
enycZemus: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon  even ;-)11:11
Zemusheh, thanks11:11
sandyi need to install compiz fusion11:11
enycsandy: this is a testing version... problems are expected.11:11
Zemus18 october. Bitchin'! :D11:12
sandyenyc tell me how to install compiz fusion11:12
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enycsandy: hrrm ive not tried 7.10Gutsy so i dont know ;-)11:12
enycsandy: i got the idea compizfusion was part of 7.1011:13
sandyya11:13
sandybut11:13
sandythere is a problem i am not able to install  emerald-themes11:13
sandywhat to do11:13
enyctry installing it from apt-get ...11:14
enycsee what the error is11:14
enyclook for existing bugreports of launchpad11:14
Zemusaptitude > apt-get11:14
enycpost another if needbe11:14
sandyi tried11:15
h1st0sandy: you are using non stock repos11:15
enycsandy tried _what_ expctly?11:15
sandyemerald-themes11:15
sandyCouldn't find package emerald-themes11:15
h1st0sandy: you need to remove whatever you installed from those repos and use the official ones.11:15
h1st0its there.11:15
scizzo-apt-cache search emerald11:16
scizzo-you will then find what packages are related to emerald11:16
=== enyc happy using metacity anyway... whats all the fuss about ;-)
sandyif i use apt-get install emerald Couldn't find package emerald-themes11:16
sandynothing coming if i wse apt-cache search emerald11:17
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scizzo-sandy: then you need to check your repos11:17
scizzo-sandy: seems like you get no result at all when it comes to the window manager at all11:17
sandythere are no other repos then ubuntu11:18
geserenyc: poke an archive admin to move the cdrkit binary debs also to multiverse11:18
enycgeser: where/how? ;-)11:18
sandy<scizzo-> what to do ?11:18
geserenyc: in #ubuntu-devel during european working hours/days11:19
scizzo-sandy: check your repositories11:19
sandy<scizzo-> how to do it11:19
enycgeser: soo.... there is a mistake at the moment [?] 11:19
sandy<scizzo-> do you want me to change to 7.0411:20
geserenyc: I'm looking now11:20
scizzo-sandy: I think that the package is in a multivers repo or something11:21
gesersandy: there is no emerald-themes in gutsy anymore11:22
sanfordsorry for any confusion11:22
sandy<scizzo-> i have compizconfig manage in my system but i am not able to open it11:23
saispoany kernel dev here ?11:23
sandy<scizzo-> if am starting fusion the title bar of all windows are going away11:23
sandy<scizzo-> there are no title bars for any windows11:24
sandy<scizzo->and no effects11:24
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geserenyc: cdrecord, mkisofs, cdda2wav where previously trantistional packages build from cdrkit (main) but are now normal packages again11:24
MrSteinHi! Anyone has an URL to a grub floppy image at hand ? Or CD image ? thanks!11:25
geserenyc: I'll poke an archive admin to move them to multiverse11:25
enycgeser: i see ok11:25
enycgeser: thankyou for trying to get that sorted out ;-)11:26
sandyi want 3d desktop11:26
enycsandy: hrrm tyri intalling released gutsy7.10 in future then ;-)11:27
enycsandy: alternatively, install feishy7.04 and install beryl's feisty repository on that... then install beryl ?11:27
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scizzo-sandy: well there are still testing going on with the ubuntu-effects stuff11:28
sandyok11:28
scizzo-sandy: the window decorator as standar is at the moment gtk-decorator or gnome-decorator11:29
scizzo-AFAIK11:29
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sandy<scizzo-> how to check11:30
JediMastermorning guys11:30
JediMasterI know that this isn't exclusively a gusty issue, but is it likely that something similar to this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FakeRaidEdgy could be automated for the final gusty install?11:31
scizzo-sandy: well ubuntu-effects are using compiz.....so I would suggest you try to start a terminal and type compiz --replace11:32
JediMaster(I have the rather annoying nvraid with two disks raid striped with vista already on there (ugh!))11:32
scizzo-sandy: and then see what happens11:32
sandythe title bar of all the windows goes off11:33
scizzo-sandy: but you need to change it so that ubuntu-effects are not turned on from the beginning when you do compiz --replace11:33
sandy<scizzo-> bye11:34
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mewtis there a way to know what version of a package you have installed from apt-get?11:45
twilightmewt: apt-cache show <package> | grep Version ?11:46
mewtsudo apt-cache search openarena | grep version gives nothing11:47
mewt:/11:47
twilightVersion ('V', not 'v'), or | grep -i version11:47
mewtstill nothing11:48
mewtand ingame i cant find a version11:48
mewtnumber11:48
mewtit gives 1.33-oa11:48
mewtopenarena is still on 0.7111:48
twilight"apt-cache show openarena | grep Version" gives "Version: 0.6.0-4", this is the version in the universe repo11:52
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h1st0twilight: yeah 7 is out on the site.11:54
mithrohi! What is the best way to get a version of libdbus with debugging symbols?11:54
mithronormally there is a libabc-dbg package, but libdbus doesn't seem to have one11:55
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mewttwilight, what does one have to do to get a package updated ?11:59
w0nderhey guys... trying to install kubuntu gutsy11:59
w0nderI get up to the live cd desktop11:59
w0nderbut the installer won't run11:59
w0nderit just shows up on the taskbar for a bit, acts like it's busy, then goes away12:00
w0ndernothing ever comes up on my screen12:00
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lagamorning12:01
lagai just found out the hard way that there's no nvidia.ko available for the realtime kernel in gutsy. is this intentional?12:01
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w0nderis there a way to install kubuntu from the command line or something?12:03
lagaw0nder: are you already running ubuntu?12:04
w0nderthe pc i'm installing on is clean12:05
w0nderwere u thinking i could just upgrade or something?12:05
h1st0How do you start open arena I tried the ioq3ded.i386 but it appears to be a server12:06
mewtI did a sudo apt-get install openarena12:06
mewtand then started it by typing openarena in a terminal :)12:06
mewtor selecting it from the games menu12:06
lagaw0nder: well, what command line are you referring to? what are you trying to do, where are you failing?12:07
h1st0I downloaded the new version from the web12:08
w0nderI get up to the live cd desktop12:10
w0nderbut the installer won't run12:10
w0nderit just shows up on the taskbar for a bit, acts like it's busy, then goes away12:10
w0ndernothing ever comes up on my screen12:10
w0nderim going to try safe graphics mode once12:10
lagaw0nder: sounds good. make sure to file a bug so your problems can be fixed!12:11
lagaw0nder: if the safe mode fails as well, you can try the alternate CD12:11
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w0nderlaga: safe mode failed.. where's this alt cd?12:15
kylem'12:15
xukunI,m trying to install ubuntu on my dell inspiron 9300 but when I choose the install from command line option I get a dark screen. Any Idea where to go from here?12:15
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xukunanybody please12:21
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w0nderoem install just hangs at the loading screen12:25
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w0nderlol whoa12:26
w0nderit finally finished loading12:27
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xukunw0nder, I have that too, how did you get around?12:31
w0nderi didnt12:32
mewtw0nder, how much ram do you have ?12:32
w0nderit just came up12:32
w0nder51212:32
mewtthat's your problem...I had it before12:32
w0nderwtf?12:32
mewttakes amazingly long to load12:32
w0nder512mb is my prob?12:32
mewtye12:32
w0nderahh12:32
w0nderwtf? even vista loads fast with 512 ;)12:32
w0nderthe installer still wont run tho12:33
mewtyou probably have like 3 loading12:33
mewtdepending on how many times you clicked it12:33
w0nderlol12:33
w0nderpossibly12:33
w0nderbut my cdrom isn't doing anything12:33
w0nderAT ALL12:33
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mewtgive it time12:34
mewtusually it comes up12:34
w0nderi think i left it there overnight dude lol12:34
xukunWhich option do I choose if I want to start the cd as live cd?12:35
w0nderwhat about a normal text-based installer? is there one for ubuntu12:35
w0nder?12:35
mewtthat's the alternate cd12:36
mewtanyone play simutrans in here before ?12:36
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hyljeno12:42
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JediMasteranyone know why my mouse isn't detected at boot (it's a USB Razer mouse), however when I unplug it and put it back in, it works instantly12:50
JediMaster(this is on gusty tribe 5)12:50
mewtJediMaster, mine works fine from bootup12:50
JediMasterweird, I've seen it happen once or twice in windows too, but been working fine recently12:51
Tomcat_JediMaster: Check syslog if the mouse is detected and the drivers are loaded properly.12:51
Tomcat_JediMaster: At boot, that is. :)12:51
JediMasterjust doing a partial upgrade (still at a constant 1057kb/sec!) and will check it after a reboot12:51
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sandyi need to change the setting of compiz fusion in gusty how to do it?12:53
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JediMasterlmao, i was about to ask the exact same thing =)12:53
sandycan anyone tell me how to change the setting of compiz fusion12:56
sandycan anyone tell me how to change the setting of compiz fusion12:57
mewtJediMaster, I had that prob on windows too when I used to reboot12:57
mewtJediMaster, I fixed it by upgrading the firmware and flash of my copperhead12:57
mewtnever gave probs on linux hto12:57
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JediMastermewt: you can upgrade the firmware on the mouse? lol12:59
crdlbsandy, install compizconfig-settings-manager01:00
crdlbthen run ccsm01:00
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JediMasterdoes compiz work well with dual monitors?01:00
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sandy<crdlb> from where i sould install it01:08
crdlb!info compizconfig-settings-manager01:08
ubotucompizconfig-settings-manager: Compiz configuration settings manager. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2+git20070912-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 498 kB, installed size 3268 kB01:08
crdlbfrom there ^^01:09
sandyit is not there in synaptic01:12
sandy<crdlb> it is not there in synaptic01:13
crdlbdo you have universe enabled?01:13
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sandyya01:17
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JediMasterwow, that broke X01:33
damon_is anyone else having somewhat regular problems with some or other gnome component dying, resulting in the need for a hard reset?01:33
JediMasterafter an initial install, X(org) seems to be working fine, I setup the nvidia commerical drive through the popup, no problem, restart and everything is fine. as soon as I use the new screen config to setup a second monitor, reboot and X is foobared, both monitors flick on with the nvidia logo and it freezes =(01:34
JediMasterI'm guessing this is an nvidia drive problem01:34
JediMaster+r01:34
lagaJediMaster: fyi, i just setup twinview with nvidia-glx-new and it's working01:36
JediMasterlaga: I'm using TWO geforce 8800 cards, which may be causing an issue01:37
JediMasterGTX's too =)01:37
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JediMasterlaga: would you mind throwing me your xorg.conf?01:38
lagaJediMaster: i'll upload it01:38
JediMasterthanks01:38
lagaJediMaster: it's a bit special, i'm using a DFP and a CRT with a 720x576 interlaced modeline ;)01:38
JediMasterfreaky lol01:39
lagaJediMaster: http://laga.ath.cx/xorg.conf01:40
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JediMasterthanks01:42
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mewtJediMaster, of course you can, just visit razer's site for the files and insatructions01:59
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attunixWould it be terribly hard to make my own usplash?02:07
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Suurorcaattunix: not really, there should even be readable tutorial somewhere on the forums/help pages02:12
Suurorcabut it's not exactly trivial, either02:12
attunixI'll look it up :)02:13
attunixthnaks02:13
attunix*thanks02:13
JediMasterlaga: just looking at your config, not quite what I'm trying to do, I have 2 x GF8800 GTXs and want to do dual screen with one monitor from each card02:14
SWATwhen I try to enable compiz in gutsy, the normal decorations disappear, but the compiz decoration don't appear (the cube works though). I have an Intel 915 chipset and use the Intel driver. xorg.conf has been generated with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. Any tips?02:15
lagaJediMaster: oh, sorry :/02:18
JediMasternp02:18
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svuwhy do dbus and hald take AGES to start on gutsy?02:33
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PriceChildIf you had watched your language I wouldn't have noticed ;)02:35
Ax-Ax?02:35
Ax-Axhttp://s167.photobucket.com/02:35
Ax-Axoh02:35
Ax-Axhttp://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u151/ax-ax/xchatannoy.png02:35
PriceChildwillt ake a look02:36
PriceChildahh taht icon02:36
Ax-Axthe xchat systray apears in a window02:36
PriceChildI love the way you've made kde like gnome :)02:36
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PriceChildanyway02:36
PriceChildThat always happenned for me when xchat was running, but the notification area was destroyed at soem point.... e.g. switching between compiz/beryl and metacity02:37
PriceChildgah its too early02:37
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Ax-Axis my problem that compiz/beryl is to early?02:38
Ax-Ax:P02:38
PriceChildare you running compiz?02:39
PriceChildand if you close xchat, then start it again does the icon go into the right place?02:39
Ax-Ax1. i've never understod what compiz does, so i dont know (reading wikipedia)  2. its right, but sometimes it jumpos out on its own02:41
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PriceChildI haven't a clue then :)02:45
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MrSteinAdd/Remove software not working in latest daily (14092007) ?02:48
LattywareUgh, I've worked out why gnome-terminal is crashing - it crashes when I have no GLX (triple monitors break GLX for me.)02:50
LattywareThat's a kick in the ass.02:50
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MrSteinnoone here ?02:53
MrStein:-)02:53
LattywareWorks for me...02:53
Lattywarethat's just running it updated to the latest - don't know if that is what you are referring too.02:53
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LattywareHmmm. Nautilus appears to have died all of a sudden02:56
Lattywarethat isn't good02:56
MrSteinLattyware: boot daily 20070914, select add/remove in menu ... wait.. (wait pointer apears) .... nothing. There is a "starting add/remove.." icon on the task bar, but then disapperas.02:57
MrSteinalso the VTs are all mixed up. I selected "Restart" and then the "press enter" message was no on the active VT. Also presing ENTER in the "correct" VT was not detected. Then I pressed ENTER on all VTs and one worked (dunno which, it disapeared too quickly).02:58
MrSteinA complete mess, hope you don't plan final release soon ....02:58
MrStein;-)02:59
Lattywareugh, I'm so annoyed with this lack of GLX thing though02:59
Lattywareapparently my two cards are too different, and it disabled GLX everywhere.03:00
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LattywareSo I have no GLX. which would be fine, I can switch between a multi- and single- monitor setup, but no gnome-terminal and firestarter because of it is pretty bad.03:00
LattywareNot to mention it means I can't use desktop effects.03:01
LattywareI'm planning on getting two 2600XTs in crossfire, using those instead, once the FOSS drivers come out.03:01
VegarHow come the initrd from my custom kernel is 38 MB, while the others are 7 MB?03:01
LattywareAnd maybe replace two of my 19"ers with another 24"er - dual seems to work better than triple.03:02
penguin42Vegar: open it up using cpio and see what's in it03:03
Vegarcpio crashed03:06
penguin42that's unusual are you sure?03:07
Vegaryes03:07
Vegarsegfault03:07
Vegarextracted with gunzip03:07
penguin42erm that's very very odd - I've never seen cpio seg03:08
Vegarcpio -i < initrd.img-2.6.22.603:08
Vegarit complained alot before crashing03:08
Vegarlots of malformed numbers and reverse byte-order03:08
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Vegarhmm..03:11
Vegarif I wanted to just apply a patch..03:11
penguin42Vegar: I can recreate the seg fault here if I try cpio -i on the gzip'd file03:12
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Vegarcould I just replace the vmlinuz image in an ubuntu kernel image .deb?03:12
penguin42messy03:13
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penguin42Vegar: But if you are going to do that then just don't bother with packaged kernels03:13
VegarI feel it's more messy having to rebuild the restricted-modules and modules packages03:14
qzioHey, anyone knows where i can find the new xorg.conf ? it's not in the same place anymore.03:14
Vegar/etc/X11/xorg.conf03:15
qzioim running x without an /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:15
qzioso no, xorg.conf is not in /etc/X11/ anymore.. >_<03:15
Vegarmine is there03:15
penguin42ditto03:15
qzioit all started with an upgrade, x is _slow_ maybe the new intel driver is broken?03:15
qzioatleast my x is slow as * im on a macbook03:16
qzio(intel 945)03:16
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cypherdelicgreetings03:16
penguin42qzio: 945 is OK here (Tosh laptop)03:16
Vegarwhat application is it that controls the volume up/down buttons on the keyboard?03:16
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dereshhi, does anyone has problems with ubiguity on gutsy daily cdimages03:18
qziopenguin42: sweet, i like the new open thing, but i prefer performance :)03:18
penguin42new open?03:18
dereshit's stuck on 120%03:18
iliketofrolic666how come all my fonts became smaller in gutsy? (same resolution)03:18
Vegariliketofrolic666: adjust the DPI03:19
iliketofrolic666where?03:20
VegarSystem -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Fonts tab -> Details03:20
Vegarthe top number03:20
Vegarwhat's the current value?03:20
iliketofrolic666i'm on xubuntu : (03:20
Vegaroh03:21
dereshdoes anyone know where ubiguity stores its logs03:21
iliketofrolic666alright i fixed it03:21
qziopenguin42: does gsynaptics works for you? i'm told by the system to set shmconfig to true in my xorg.conf but.. yeah sence xorg.conf is not used..03:21
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penguin42qzio: I've not set the shmconfig up - but I do have an xorg.conf03:22
penguin42Vegar: I've just bug reported that cpio segfault - it really shouldn't happen; #13992803:22
qzioyeah, i also have a xorg.conf, but xorg seems to ignore it03:22
qziopenguin42: so i tried to cp xorg.conf backup_of_xorg.conf03:23
qzioand restart x03:23
penguin42Vegar: But I'm sure it is onl;y happening when fed a gzip'd file - I don't think your gunzip put the decompressed version where you thought03:23
qzioand it works, resolution, synaptics etc. but without my prefered settings (ie shmconfig true)03:23
Vegarpenguin42: I got an uncompressed initrd file after gunzipping..03:24
qziofor example, the current settings is tap-to-click which i hate.03:24
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penguin42Vegar: I'm betting you gave the cpio the compressed one - cpio is working fine for me on the uncompressed one but segs on the compressed one03:24
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Vegarah03:25
VegarI'm supposed to run cpio on the uncompressed one?03:26
penguin42oh yeh!03:26
penguin42cpio doesn't know about compression03:26
Vegarah, I see03:26
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JediMasterwhen I set my keyboard layout to UK, I can no longer use the super key (windows), any ideas?03:31
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AnRkeyJediMaster, there are a few UK layouts u could try03:36
penguin42JediMaster: You have still got it as 105 key haven't you - not 102 ?03:37
AnRkeyJediMaster, the international with dead keys is 102keys I think03:38
AnRkeyso no super key if thats what u have chosen03:38
AnRkeytry UK Default03:38
JediMasterlet me check03:38
SolarionI wonder if I mistyped something03:40
JediMasterthe keyboard preferences app isn't working for me, it can't active the xkb configuration03:41
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JediMasterrbr03:50
JediMasterer brb =)03:50
VousDeuxis it normal for apport-qt to popup a request for administrative privileges03:53
geserdepends which programm crashed03:54
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VousDeuxI'm not sure how long this message has been on the screen03:56
VousDeuxwhere should I look to find out what crashed?03:56
VousDeuxso far, I haven't had much luck with google in finding out exactly what apport-qt is for03:57
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XsteelWolfanyone using gusty?03:58
VousDeuxI do, but I'm not an expert or anything03:59
slackernVousDeux, /var/log/apport.log might tell you what crashed.04:00
penguin42XsteelWolf: Yeh, that's why we're all here04:00
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XsteelWolfis nvidia drivers included in gutsy?04:01
VousDeuxahh...thanks, I was headed for /var/log, but I wasn't sure what to look for when I got there04:01
VousDeuxI'm using x86-64, it had some nv reference drivers initially, I had to add nvidia-gtk-new04:02
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geserVousDeux: you can also look in /var/crash04:02
VousDeuxat least I think that's what it was called04:02
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geserVousDeux: apport-qt is a qt frontend for apport, a crash reporting tool04:03
VousDeuxI would look it up, but I'm trying to figure out what to do with this other dialog that popped up, and it is preventing me from executing any aptitude related programs at the moment04:03
XsteelWolfi need to know whether nvidia quadro fx 570 is in the list,i had to do the workaround on fiesty..04:03
VousDeuxahhh...so it needs admin rights to update the log?04:03
XsteelWolfbesides intel 4965ag drivers aint working in fiesty too04:03
VousDeuxI'm using the 4965agn on x86-64, it is certainly improved from before04:04
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geserVousDeux: if an application runnning as root crashes, you/apport need admin rights to read the crash file and report the crash04:05
VousDeuxah-ha, thanks geser04:05
XsteelWolfim on x86-3204:05
XsteelWolfdoes 4965agn works fine on you with fiesty?04:05
VousDeuxnot at all on feisty...was using vesa04:06
VousDeuxthat is one of the reasons I installed Gutsy04:06
XsteelWolfvesa for 4965agn wlan drivers?04:07
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VousDeuxoh, sorry...too many distractions04:07
VousDeuxit didn't work at all on feisty04:07
VousDeuxI tried following the instructions at intel, but it seemed to involve recompiling the kernel for updated mac80211 support04:08
damon_I reported a bug on thunderbird 1.5x earlier this year, and it does not affect thunderbird 2.0x, so I think it should be closed (it is currently "incomplete"). I just left a comment suggesting it should be closed.  Is there anything else I should do?04:08
VousDeuxI'm not even sure if that would have worked04:08
XsteelWolfyou got a segmentation fault as well?04:08
VousDeuxit looks like my crash this moring was related to the new nvidia driver04:09
XsteelWolfi mean for your graphic driver04:10
XsteelWolfi mean wlan driver04:10
XsteelWolfwhat's your laptop model btw04:10
VousDeuxms-171904:10
XsteelWolfdell?04:10
VousDeuxmsi04:10
XsteelWolfi see.04:10
XsteelWolfwhat nvidia card you got?04:11
VousDeuxif you put ms-1719 into google, it should be the first link to the msi website04:11
VousDeuxnvidia is 8600M-GT04:11
XsteelWolftry the workaround04:11
XsteelWolffor nvidia drivers on nvidia linux page04:11
XsteelWolfit will work04:11
XsteelWolfi solve that nvidia driver shit,but i can't get 4965agn intel wlan drivers to work'04:12
VousDeuxI'll have a look at that shortly, my queue is currently full :) thanks04:13
XsteelWolfyou said 4965agn intel works on gusty just fine?04:13
VousDeuxyeah, worked out of the box04:13
XsteelWolfas in?04:13
XsteelWolfdoes it auto detect & install or?04:14
VousDeuxI installed it, turned it on, and it worked04:14
XsteelWolfmanually?04:14
VousDeuxall I did was install Gutsy and it worked04:14
XsteelWolfturn it on using hotkey?04:14
VousDeuxyes, that works too04:15
XsteelWolfsadly gutsy is still in alpha stage04:15
XsteelWolfim still waiting for the release04:15
VousDeuxexcept I found it a little confusing at first because that hotkey is shared with the bluetooth04:15
VousDeuxwell, my hardware isn't production yet, so I figured I could afford to jump in before release04:16
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XsteelWolfseems like this channel is abit dead04:18
mirashiimeh. Has anyone had networking issues over the last day with the latest updates?04:19
mirashiiI haven't been watching closely to what I've been upgrading but it seems lately that after a short period of time wireless networking stops working altogether until a reboot04:19
VousDeuxthis channel isn't always really busy, but if you are patient you can certainly get some excellent help here04:19
slackernmirashii, only odd thing i have seen is that the icon in kubuntu shows the machine as being unconnected but it still works, and disabling/enabling the networkcard makes it look alright again04:20
VousDeuxmy wifi seems to be working just fine04:20
slackernthe icon for Knetworkmanager that is i should say04:20
mirashiislackern: NetworkManager in gutsy has always been a little screwy for me, I've had issues with the network saying its disconnected and not being able to reconnect through the gnome nm-applet, but then I can go in and run iwconfig and dhclient myself and connect fine. A minor annoyance, but now I can't reconnect at all04:21
mirashiiI can live without a pretty applet, but I can't really make do without any network connection :)04:22
slackernhehe04:22
mirashiibrb, lemme restart this in screen so I can try to update some more04:22
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qziook, performance is back(i downgraded to feisty and then upgraded to gutsy) but i still cant figure out where xorg is getting it settings from. (i dont have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf)04:23
qzioI really want to change the synaptics settings04:23
slackernIm just running with cable myself, had so many problems when helping people out with wifi i can't just get myself into it at all.04:23
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XsteelWolfgksudo synpatics04:23
mirashiiback04:23
qziogsynaptics tells me to put SHMConfig true in xorg.conf04:23
XsteelWolfwhat gutsy version are you on/04:23
XsteelWolftribe 5?04:23
qzioXsteelWolf: yeah, that's what im doing04:23
qzioXsteelWolf: hu? just gutsy on every line in etc/apt/sources.list04:23
qziohow do i change tribe?04:24
XsteelWolfyou don't change tribe04:24
XsteelWolftribe is the pre-release of gutsy04:24
XsteelWolfthe current latest available is 5,6 release is cancelled,to be announce at a later date04:24
VousDeuxthe tribe changes when you apply patches04:24
XsteelWolfwhat you can do is04:25
XsteelWolfsudo apt-get upgrade04:25
Hobbseextknight: t6 wont happen at all.04:25
Hobbsee(see the /topic)04:25
Hobbsee!final04:25
ubotuIf you installed a Tribe/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Gutsy. To make sure, type  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  in a console.04:25
qzioXsteelWolf: yeah, i did upgrade :) x performance is back but the synaptics settings is default or something, not my own. I dont even have a xorg.conf file and x still works..04:26
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XsteelWolflol04:28
XsteelWolfsudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:28
XsteelWolfcheck here04:28
XsteelWolfor find / -name "xorg.conf"04:28
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damon_is anyone here using the free nvidia driver?04:29
XsteelWolfdamon_ what you mean?04:29
XsteelWolfyou can get nvidia drivers off official website of nvidia04:29
damon_the non binary only driver04:29
XsteelWolfyes04:29
XsteelWolfim using it04:29
damon_because I was getting an awful lot of problems earlier04:29
XsteelWolfwhat problems04:29
damon_and I 'm not sure if thye04:29
JediMasterI've finally managed to get dual monitors working over two GF8800 GTX cards, however, Compiz seems to have stopped working now, none of the effects are working04:29
damon_XsteelWolf: not sure if they are related to the driver, or a just a coincidence04:30
XsteelWolfi'll try my best to help04:30
damon_#1 white backgrounds would be rendered as brown04:30
damon_#2 gnome apps would suddenly stop working - could not logout, could not open a terminal window04:31
XsteelWolfdid you change the settings nvidia ask you to?04:31
damon_had to hard reset, until I realised opening a terminal window so I could sudo reboot was a wise move ;)04:31
Hobbseeyay, forums people are out of touch with reality, news at 11.04:31
JediMasterXsteelWolf: which settings?04:31
damon_(in other words, opening a terminal window before the crash would occur)04:31
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damon_XsteelWolf: this was with the free driver, so I don't understand your questoin sorry04:32
XsteelWolfthe one off nvidia website right?04:33
damon_XsteelWolf: no, the one that comes with gutsy04:33
XsteelWolfoh..04:33
XsteelWolfwhat driver are you using?04:34
damon_I am using only the software that I downloaded in the update04:34
damon_now I am using the restricted driver for older models04:34
damon_earlier I was using the free driver04:34
XsteelWolfget the latest from nvidia website04:34
XsteelWolfrestricted driver isn't working good04:34
damon_it's working better than the free one, which was a disaster for me!04:35
XsteelWolfwhy?04:35
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damon_something was locking up04:35
damon_no apps could be launched04:35
damon_couldn'04:35
damon_couldn't log out using the GUI04:35
damon_white was being rendered as brown04:36
damon_these were the main issues04:36
damon_and it would occur after perhaps 5 mins of use04:36
damon_randomly04:36
damon_I didn't know how to figure out what was the problem04:36
damon_as I couldn't do ctrl-alt-F1 and the like04:37
qzioXsteelWolf: yeah like i said, i dont have an xorg.conf.04:37
XsteelWolfwierd.04:37
qzioit's strange i know04:37
XsteelWolfdamon_ you might be facing new bugs :P04:37
XsteelWolfdoes it appears on gutsy only?04:37
qzioi like to add the shmconfig true option to get gsynaptics to work04:37
damon_yes04:37
damon_never seen this before04:37
damon_one other bug, which I have reported, is that DisplaySize in xorg.conf is vital04:38
damon_or else the fonts are so tiny you cannot read them without a telescope ;)04:38
XsteelWolflol04:39
XsteelWolfit's official release isn't here yet04:39
XsteelWolf:(04:39
damon_and any idea why gdm comes up with a resolution higher than my native resolution?  it becomes like a virtual screen, where you can pan around it04:41
qzioXsteelWolf: yeah we know (i hope) and thats why im on irc trying to get help/tell about my problem04:41
Vegarmeh04:42
Vegarnetwork manager and iwl4965 doesn't work04:42
XsteelWolfim still stuck with fiesty,waiting to move on to gutsy  because of driver issues as well,but still, hope it to be a beta version rather than alpha stages.04:42
XsteelWolfVegar,im facing iwl4965 drivers issue on fietsy as well04:42
XsteelWolfdoesn't work for me04:42
Vegardoesn't work at all?04:42
Vegaror is it just network manager that's not working?04:43
XsteelWolfdoesn't work at all04:43
XsteelWolfsudo modprobe iwl496504:43
XsteelWolfsegementation fault.04:43
XsteelWolfno wireless thingy popup whatsoever.04:43
Vegarthat's.. interesting04:43
XsteelWolfand after rebooting.system takes 10mins or so to boot04:43
Vegarit works for me04:43
XsteelWolfi had to remove the .ko file04:43
XsteelWolfyou on fie or gu?04:43
Vegargutsy04:44
XsteelWolfgutsy is working fine from what i heard04:44
XsteelWolfbut no fiesty04:44
XsteelWolfhave you installed on fie before?04:44
Vegarnope04:44
Vegargot it a few days ago04:44
XsteelWolf4965 is being detected automactically yea?04:44
Vegaryes04:44
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XsteelWolfwhich gutsy are you using?04:45
Vegarbut network-manager doesn't do much04:45
VegarI'm not sure, tribe 5 I think04:45
riddleboxcan someone tell me if asterisk-1.4.x is in gutsy?04:45
XsteelWolfas long as you can connect through wlan is fine.04:45
XsteelWolfim not going to use the ethernet cable station in the living room04:45
XsteelWolfit would be better to surf from my room04:46
Vegarmeh04:46
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VegarI broke my install04:46
XsteelWolfas in?04:46
Vegarno kernel modules04:46
damon_switching to a virtual console requires a hard reset, because the screen becomes scrambled and there is no way to come back04:47
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cypherdelicdears04:48
cypherdelicim with current 7.10 on laptop, core 2 duo, geforce go 7600, who needs informations in anyway or needs help?04:49
cypherdeliccdda2wav is broken for my04:50
cypherdelicsomebody gut it working?04:50
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cypherdelicmy sensor limits fail every startup04:52
XsteelWolfbrb04:52
XsteelWolfwatching evan almighty04:52
Vegarcypherdelic: can you adjust screen brightness with the proprietary nvidia driver?04:53
cypherdelicMy Run Application does not work propperly04:54
cypherdelicVegar04:54
cypherdelicyes i can04:54
cypherdelicVegar: try 'nvclock -S 0-10004:54
VegarI'll try that as soon as I get my system back up04:55
cypherdelicyou can do furthermore with nvclock, in your xconf.org place ' Option "CoolBits" "1" ' and then adjust memory clock with 'nvclock -m (mhz)' or cpu with -n (mhz)04:57
cypherdelicyou can do some scipting with those creating profiles04:57
cypherdelici recommend you to add some commands from powertop if your platform is a notebook04:58
Vegarcool04:58
Vegaryes, it's a notebook04:58
VegarThinkpad T6104:58
cypherdelicok i go to a clipboard site and post my profiles04:59
cypherdelicis it intel core ?04:59
Vegaryes04:59
cypherdelicis it nvidia go?04:59
Vegarno04:59
Vegarit's.. hmm.. let me check04:59
VegarnVIDIA Quadro NVS 140M04:59
cypherdelicnice maybe coolbits have some special enhancements for you i never got one05:00
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cypherdelicbut nvclock should work05:00
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cypherdelicplease install powertop and run it as sudo05:01
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VegarI have05:01
Vegarbut it never mentioned the nvidia card05:02
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cypherdelicVegar: ok watch this thats my Peformance Script, that i execute if im connected to a power source05:04
cypherdelichttp://pastebin.com/d6cadbf1d05:04
mikeconceptspls advise what controls the screen resolution of the gutsy gnome login screen, need to change it05:04
Vegarcypherdelic: ah, nice05:04
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cypherdelicVegar: And here the bottom is for Powersave05:05
cypherdelichttp://pastebin.com/d40ed52ba05:05
cypherdelicyou can even find out more with powertop05:06
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sparrwhy is there not a debconf question for dolphin vs konqueror?05:10
cypherdelici guess that firefox is already cool enough :)05:10
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Vegarcypherdelic: I'll check that out, thanks alot05:14
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cypherdelicVegar: No prob05:17
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eleki1hi all05:18
eleki1I try to see a dvd and like always, it's wars05:18
_lemsx1_eleki1: did you install libdvdcss ?05:18
eleki1I ve installed lots of stuff but it's seem I havent libdvdplay05:19
eleki1yep05:19
eleki1but apt-get see I havent that05:19
_lemsx1_eleki1: sudo /bin/sh /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh05:19
_lemsx1_eleki1: i have libdvdcss2 here. everything just works05:20
sparrwhat about firefox?05:20
eleki1nop, nothing work05:21
eleki1just one thing, I ve installed mediubuntu in my source.list05:22
eleki1but I use fiesty package05:22
eleki1heu fiesty repository05:22
eleki1is there any gibbon repository?05:22
Vegarhmm05:23
Vegarmaybe I should try debian05:23
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eleki1spar , what about ff?05:23
_lemsx1_eleki1: does the DVD that you are trying to see works on a regular DVD player?05:23
eleki1yep05:23
eleki1must I have to reboot?05:24
eleki1I can try a other if you want05:24
eleki1wait05:24
_lemsx1_eleki1: and you didn't change your region settings on the DVD player of your computer? is this for the right region?05:24
Vegarmeh, I'll reinstall gutsy05:24
Vegarcypherdelic: what notebook do you have?05:24
eleki1damn, other dvd work05:25
eleki1sniff05:25
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eleki1ho, all work now05:26
eleki1I touch nothing05:26
eleki1I thing , we have to say "remove all dvd before install libdvdcss"05:27
_lemsx1_eleki1: good05:29
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cypherdelicVegar: I have got a Sony VAIO FE31GZ05:32
eleki1in fact, my be there is a prob, the movie is bizarre he bloc on totem and on vlc he hatch (is it english?)05:32
cypherdelicVegar: It has got a IntelCore2Duo with 2x183ghz, nvidia geforce go7600, 2gb ddr2 (533), 108mbit wlan, bluetooth, 200gb hard disk05:33
cypherdelicbut goddamn no fckn com-port :D05:33
cypherdelicelekil: whats the point?05:34
eleki1in totem he block after 3 min 43 sec05:34
eleki1I can read the Third minuts and after, stop05:36
eleki1image blocked05:36
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cypherdelicWhat about an GUI for CryptSetup luks??05:39
penguin42yeh I'd like that - it really should just sit nicely in nortilus05:40
XsteelWolfwhat's the difference in the dvd release of gutsy?05:41
cypherdelicXsteelWolf: i would say a dvd release of a developement version is useless05:42
Tomcat_But there is one. ;)05:42
Tomcat_http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/current/05:42
cypherdelicyes but better get the cd and the get actual packages via internet05:42
Tomcat_XsteelWolf: They contain universe.05:43
cypherdelicsaves you lot05:43
Tomcat_XsteelWolf: And so, yes, cypherdelic is quite right. ;)05:43
XsteelWolfuniverse?05:43
Tomcat_XsteelWolf: You'd download the universe repo and then never use current packages, because they change daily.05:43
Tomcat_!universe05:43
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource05:43
Tomcat_If you don't know what universe is, you better not run the dev version btw ;)05:43
XsteelWolfwhy not05:45
eleki1is there any udma probleme with a portable (mobile) pc (a dell inspiron)?05:45
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cypherdelici love to wake up in the morning, run apt-get {update,dist-upgrade} and then begin fixing the system until sun goes down, so dont do it, this damages decrease your social-accessebility05:45
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Tomcat_XsteelWolf: The dev version breaks easily and you are not able to fix it or tell people about it. But to learn from, why not? :)05:46
cypherdelichehe05:47
cypherdelicwho grep | -i blonde05:47
cypherdelictalk; cd ~; wine; talk;touch; unzip; touch05:47
cypherdelicmuha i need to go05:48
JosefKcypherdelic, the open bugs against 7.10-beta don't seem too bad05:49
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cypherdelici dont see many bugs in gutsy but many in compiz05:50
JosefKcypherdelic, agreed, but that's one of the first things I turn off anyway :)05:51
cypherdelicsomebody announced to integrate fusion to gutsy, thats being hard work. 0.5.2 still freezes if i start any gl app or screensav.05:51
billytwowillyis k3b causing anyone else to crash when you burn a cd?05:51
cypherdelicits quite amazing that you need to disable all the Desktop Effect, GLTray Shit of gutsy to get compiz working properly05:52
cypherdelici didnt know that and wasnt finding out for days why compiz acting weird with wrong settings etc05:52
cypherdeliccedego needs more developement to and innotek05:54
cypherdeliccedega i mean, and innotek virtual box05:54
cypherdelicgreat things, that seem to stuck05:54
cypherdelicnothing great happens, little bugfixes, but the big ones remain05:54
cypherdelici reclaim that gaming, desktop enhancements and virtualising, are the main points that could make linux a better alternative05:55
cypherdelicin a massive way05:56
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Vegarfusion?05:58
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BlueVetteHello05:58
Vegarcypherdelic: I also have vista on my laptop05:58
Vegarcypherdelic: it's using 700/1000 MB RAM05:58
Vegargaming is out of the question05:59
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VegarIf I disable the swap file, I can barely launch any apps before it starts complaining about low memory05:59
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BlueVetteHave a Dell Inspiron 1420N (came with ubuntu), but now looking for a kde basesd distro.  Am running Tribe 5 live-cd now and have been impressed with hardware compatibility thus far. Everything works but the audio.  Are there known audio issues with ICH8M chipsets and tribe5?06:00
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BlueVettealthough... perhaps it is because mp3 support is missing from livecd?   how can I test for audio present?  (can't try flash sites for audio, since there is no flash either)06:01
Vegarcat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp06:01
XsteelWolftomcat06:02
Vegarshould give you some noise06:02
XsteelWolfyou there?06:02
Tomcat_XsteelWolf: Yes.06:02
XsteelWolfi read about it06:02
VegarBlueVette: it might be that the sound is muted06:02
XsteelWolfso basically universe is not supported06:02
XsteelWolfonly those supported are put into main06:02
XsteelWolfthat's why its not recommended?06:02
gnomefreakXsteelWolf: thats not true06:02
BlueVettenot muted.  didn't hear anything with that command, Vegar. hmm06:02
Tomcat_No.06:02
gnomefreakuniverse is community supported06:02
VegarBlueVette: if you give me two minutes, I'll have my laptop booted06:03
Tomcat_XsteelWolf: It's not recommended because the packages change daily and you'll have a DVD full of old packages.06:03
VegarBlueVette: I just installed Ubuntu, I'll check what sound card I have.06:03
XsteelWolfoh06:03
nanonymeheh, the ubuntu version which i use is altogether community supported :/06:03
nanonymethat is, the ppc version was made unofficial...06:03
gnomefreaknanonyme: main restricted updates security are all maintained by core-devs06:03
VegarBlueVette: My sound magically started working, I'm not quite sure what I did.06:04
gnomefreaknot unofficial just ported06:04
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nanonymehmm?06:04
BlueVettewell, kmix seems to ACT like the audio should be working.... just.. silence thus far.06:04
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nanonymegnomefreak, i meant the recent news that ubuntu dropped ppc support06:04
gnomefreaknanonyme: ppc is still supported06:04
VegarBlueVette: which sound chip do you have?06:04
nanonymewhat on earth. that's contrary to the news i read06:05
BlueVetteintel ich8m06:05
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gnomefreaknanonyme: not dropped altogether, it was moved from full support to basic support, you will still get updates for ppc hence its supported06:05
VegarBlueVette: I have a 82801H06:05
nanonymeah06:05
Vegar(ICH8 family)06:05
gnomefreaknanonyme: the ISO was moved from normal links to the ported links as ppc is going away as they are using intels now06:05
BlueVettehmm.... where is the hardware manager stuff in kubuntu?   I'm used to pclinxuos06:06
DanaGWow, I just did a fresh install of Gutsy on my system (I'll be doing a full-restore from a backup later on), and I must say: the default font settings are ugly.06:06
DanaGI usually customize them to "DejaVu" fonts with subpixel rendering.06:06
nanonymegnomefreak, i do know the reasons, i just have an old laptop so i need the ppc version06:06
gnomefreaknanonyme: as far as gutsy goes there are still ISOS for it and updates for it06:06
DanaGAnd the windows dodging around each other.....06:06
gnomefreakwhat they do in heron has yet to be decided06:07
VegarWow06:07
Vegarnetwork manager magically started working06:07
BlueVetteso.. if I install kubuntu to the HD then I can install things like flash 9 and mp3 support from the repositories?06:12
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DanaGPlus, there's the lovely freeze with nvidia 100.14.11........06:16
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Vegarhow do I prevent a package from upgrading?06:19
JediMasteranyone had any experiences with compiz on xinerama dual view?06:21
JediMasterworked fine until I setup two cards/monitors (dual geforce 8800's)06:21
JediMasternow it just doesn't run06:21
CyD_hello06:21
ptn107Vegar: open up synaptic, select your package, and on the menu click 'package -> lock version'06:22
Vegaroh, yeah, right06:22
Vegarthere's a GUI06:22
Vegarthanks06:22
VousDeuxwell, the last round of updates added a nice little synaptics icon to the applet panel, but it still says it can't access shared memory06:24
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VegarVousDeux: did you fix your SHMConfig issue?06:37
VousDeuxVegar, nope06:38
Vegartry setting it to "true" instead of "on"06:38
Vegarnot sure if it makes a difference, but it's worth a try06:38
VousDeuxyeah, I tried that already, I also try "On"06:38
Vegarok06:39
VousDeuxI think that document that says "true" is wrong...because that same doc spells the option TouchpaddOff06:39
Vegarwell, I had it set to true06:40
Vegar(got it from a debian howto)06:40
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VousDeuxhmm...it must be a different manufacturer issue or something06:40
VousDeuxfrom what I have read, it looks like Ubuntu has a history of problems with this06:41
VousDeuxI keep thinking that maybe there is something somewhere else that I need to do to allow shared memory, or some other device is dominating the shared memory, but I'm not finding anything really along those lines...not exactly sure what I'm looking for anyway06:42
VousDeuxI tried changing the priority between the mouse and touchpad (corepointer, alwayscore), and I tried disabling the USB mouse completly so that the touchpad was the only pointer device06:44
VousDeuxI also tried adding the 'Load "synaptics"' line to the module section of the xorg.conf06:45
VousDeuxI appreciate your concern :)06:46
riddleboxcan anyone tell me what version of asterisk is included in the repos for gutsy?06:49
VegarVousDeux: yeah, I just reinstalled ubuntu and came to the SHMConfig step, then I thought about you06:50
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ohad_hi, anyone know why/when LEAP wep-enterprise will work with gutsy ?06:59
ohad_i'm running gutsy with thinkpad x61s using the intl wrapper06:59
ohad_with netW4x32 driver07:00
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dmakalskyHello, I upgraded from feisty to gutsy... how do I install LAMP via apt ?07:03
scizzo-dmakalsky: install them one by one?07:05
dmakalskyscizzo-: which packages do I need?07:05
scizzo-dmakalsky: you do know that lamp stands for: Linux, Apache, Mysql, PHP right?07:06
dmakalskyyes, but apache has a bunch of packages, no?07:06
scizzo-dmakalsky: well you would mostly use apache207:07
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boojahis it possible to get beryl working properly in gutsy? i can't get emerald-themes installed07:21
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geserboojah: gutsy has no beryl, only compiz07:24
geserboojah: gutsy has no emerald-themes anymore07:25
geserbut you should be able to install emerald with emerald-themes07:25
boojahyea, i know.. i managed to install beryl for feisty without any dependency problem.. but i wasn't able to install emereald-themes07:26
JediMasterAFAIK beryl has merged into "compiz fusion"07:26
boojahbut ill need a window decorator right?07:27
boojahor has that merged in too?07:27
gesercompiz has gtk-window-decorator (and also one specific for KDE)07:27
geserbut emerald is also there07:27
boojahok07:28
boojahill check it out07:28
boojahdoes compiz-fusion have cube?07:30
geseryes07:30
gesercompiz + beryl = compiz fusion07:30
boojahohh :) sry, should have known07:31
geserwhen you install compizconfig-settings-manager you can fine tune your compiz settings07:33
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boojahgeser, where can i find that.. did you mean compiz-config-gnome?07:38
geser!info compizconfig-settings-manager07:40
ubotucompizconfig-settings-manager: Compiz configuration settings manager. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2+git20070912-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 498 kB, installed size 3268 kB07:40
user01if i install gutsy now will anything broken be fixed at release time with automatic updates?07:40
geserthat one07:40
geseruser01: should be07:40
user01geser:  ok i just need to reinstall and i dont want to install feisty only to upgrade in a couple weeks07:41
user01i would think if release is close gutsy must be fairly stable07:42
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user01geser: is the daily build the most stable?07:44
geseryou mean the daily cd?07:45
user01geser:  yep07:45
geserI don't know, I upgraded to gutsy weeks ago07:45
RoC_MasterMindwhat's proposed release date?07:46
user01geser:  oh well i see a tribe-507:47
boojahgeser, i got the setting manager.. how do i open it.. cant find the command for it07:47
geserboojah: ccsm07:47
user01better to use the tribe-5 or the gutsy alternate daily build cd?07:48
boojahty07:48
effie_jayxuser01,  the daily build has the mos recent updates07:49
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effie_jayxuser01,  if you download tribe 5 you will download a considerable amount of updates07:49
user01effie_jayx:  thats what i thought :)07:50
IntuitiveNippleDaily builds contain most updates, if you want to save on updates after installation07:50
IntuitiveNipplehttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/07:50
user01what kernel does gutsy use?07:51
effie_jayxuser01,  2.6.22.1107:51
effie_jayxcurrently07:51
effie_jayxthere is no kernel freeze thoug07:51
effie_jayxnot yet07:51
boojahgeser thanks alot.. im starting to make things work here.. the cube don't seem to be on the same hot keys as it was in berl.. do you know how to rotate it?07:52
effie_jayxboojah,  check if it is enabled07:53
geseris the cube rotate plugin activated?07:53
boojahits on07:53
effie_jayxuser01,  check the timeline for gutsy here... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule07:53
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user01ooh i think that will be good for my wireless card . . . it will be natively supported i think . . . how do i look fo module for my card in that kernel?07:54
effie_jayxuser01,  if it is supported in feisty... chances are it'll still be supported in gutsy07:54
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user01it wasnt i dont think07:55
effie_jayxwhat card is it?07:55
user01i download and did make make install from sierra wireless site07:55
user01aircard 875u07:55
boojahthe cube dont work here.. the keys are set to <Control><Alt>Down07:58
user01i followed the directions at http://www.sierrawireless.com/faq/ShowFAQ.aspx?ID=60207:59
IntuitiveNippleboojah: how about Ctrl_Alt and drag mouse (primary mouse button down) ?08:00
user01then in the meantime i think it got supported in the kernel and now it just freezes08:00
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boojahthats what ive been doing.. doesnt work08:01
user01so i was just going to install linux again since im not sure how to undo a make install08:01
user01:)08:01
boojahbut i saw that the keys was set under general, theres no option for bindings.. could that be the cause?08:01
hydrogenuser01: make uninstall08:01
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user01hydrogen:  that will uninstall it?08:02
hydrogenyes08:02
user01the module?08:02
user01ah ok08:02
IntuitiveNipplethe default key sequence for rotating the cube is Ctrl+Alt+left-cursor - is that what gconf-editor  shows?08:03
boojahin ccsm  Cube->Actions->General its key is Control+Alt+Down08:06
geserboojah: have you enough workspaces for a cube?08:06
boojahgeser that might be it08:07
boojahill check08:07
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boojahgeser.. seems i only had one workspace :P08:14
boojahthanks man08:15
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elekisre hi08:23
elekisI need help, I can't read my dvd08:23
elekisfirst, what I have to put in my sources.list to have that08:24
elekis?08:24
elekisI ve try medibuntu but that doesn't work08:24
elekisIgn http://fr.packages.medibuntu.org gusty Release08:24
elekisErr http://fr.packages.medibuntu.org gusty/non-free Sources08:25
svuanyone knows how to make dbus and hald start faster? It is annoying - waiting 2 mins for each of them08:25
IntuitiveNippleelekis: did you update apt after adding them? and then install libdvdcss ?08:25
elekisyep08:25
IntuitiveNipplesvu: Sounds like something is timing out08:25
gnomefreaktry without the fr.08:27
elekisI have that too08:27
elekisImpossible de rcuprer http://fr.packages.medibuntu.org/dists/gusty/free/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found08:27
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elekisimpossible to get08:27
svuIntuitiveNipple, I think so. but what exactly? same story on both x86_64 and ppc08:27
elekisoki08:27
gnomefreakalthough that repo doesnt look right to me08:27
elekisErr http://packages.medibuntu.org gusty/non-free Packages08:28
elekis  404 Not Found [IP: 193.34.16.167 80] 08:28
elekisit's worst08:28
elekis:D08:28
gnomefreakits either not ready for gutsy or its down than08:28
IntuitiveNippleelekis: Mine is set to: "deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ gutsy free non-free"08:28
elekisdeb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ gusty free non-free08:30
elekisexacly like my08:30
elekismine08:30
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elekisand your update work now?08:31
elekisImpossible de rcuprer http://packages.medibuntu.org/dists/gusty/non-free/source/Sources.gz  404 Not Found [IP: 193.34.16.167 80] 08:34
IntuitiveNipplelet me test08:34
IntuitiveNippleYes...08:34
IntuitiveNippleHit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/multiverse Sources08:34
IntuitiveNippleHit http://packages.medibuntu.org gutsy/non-free Packages08:34
IntuitiveNippleHit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy-updates/main Packages08:34
elekisall write, I thing I m gonna learn to my pc to fly08:36
IntuitiveNippleMaybe you've got a temporary name-lookup or routing failure?08:36
elekisheu... sorry what thats mean?08:36
elekishow to clean all thing about apt-get?08:37
IntuitiveNippleelekis: I think i've found your problem...08:37
elekisyep08:38
IntuitiveNippleI pasted the URL you used above into Firefox and got a 404 error, so I removed the last section of the path  and tried again and still got a 404... I kept on removing the last path section until I got to a directory that was found (/dists/)08:38
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elekisheu...08:39
IntuitiveNippleThen, from the list, I clicked on gutsy/ and it went to /dists/gutsy/ - but I'd just had a 404 trying that from your URL, so I think there is a bad character-code in your URL somewhere08:39
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IntuitiveNippleso, what I suggest is, use Firefox and go to http://packages.medibuntu.org/dists/gutsy/ and make sure you can navigate into all the directories08:40
IntuitiveNipplethen at least you know you've got a local configuration issue with your sources.list08:40
jonathan_Hey guys, how stable is gutsy at the moment?08:40
gnomefreakits not08:40
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jonathan_gnomefreak, whats the main issues?  video drivers?  etc?08:41
gnomefreakgutsy will be stable in mid oct. until than you may and will get breakage08:41
elekishttp://packages.medibuntu.org/dists/gutsy/non-free/binary-i386/08:41
gnomefreakjonathan_: no video seems fine08:41
elekisyeah I can, I can even download08:41
elekisthe *.gz08:41
gnomefreakjonathan_: people have issues with kernels not booting package manager not working08:41
jonathan_gnomefreak, ahhh ok.08:41
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unggnuhi all08:41
IntuitiveNippleelekis: so, check your sources.list really carefully for strange characters.08:42
unggnuCan anyone confirm this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/138094 ?08:42
ubotuLaunchpad bug 138094 in xorg "[Gutsy]  desktop and keyboard freezes while mouse is moveable" [Undecided,New] 08:42
unggnuDoes anyone have a Sony Laptop with intel graphic card?08:43
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elekisI m lost, wait I copy past in a paste.bin08:47
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elekishttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37618/08:47
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elekisI found08:48
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elekisI don't no why,08:48
elekisbut my gusty and dist are up-side down08:49
IntuitiveNippleunggnu: Yes08:49
elekisbut how to change08:49
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IntuitiveNippleelekis: This is mine http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37619/08:50
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elekisthanks I try08:52
elekisthats work08:54
IntuitiveNipplecool :)08:55
elekisthanks08:55
elekisbut that not resolve my dvd prob sniff08:55
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IntuitiveNipplehehehe08:56
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elekisthanks, but it's not for today08:57
elekisa++ I have to go08:57
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xinuchello world (tes09:00
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winbondim trying to update gutsy, the  libpam0g says some services need to be restarted, when i hit next, it restarts the services, then hangs on loading startup scripts? how do i fix it?09:01
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raknamwhy is the terminal so different in gutsy?09:09
zerwasWhen i see that there is an outdated package in gutsy, where should i ask if a new one will be packaged?09:09
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gnomefreakzerwas: what package?09:10
gnomefreakraknam: its not09:10
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gnomefreakraknam: atleast not g-t09:10
zerwasopenarena https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/openarena/09:10
gnomefreakzerwas: you can file a bug but dont get hopes up09:11
zerwasgnomefreak, i thought filing a bug about a version request wasn't a good idea ;)09:11
gnomefreakzerwas: you have to as universe freeze is in place09:12
raknamgnomefreak: how do i run that?09:12
gnomefreakraknam: are you on gnome?09:12
raknamyea09:12
gnomefreakraknam: open the terminal09:13
gnomefreakraknam: application>accessories>gnome-terminal09:13
gnomefreakor terminal09:13
raknamhaha, sorry, i'm a bit retarded09:13
raknami was using UXterm09:13
raknamthanks09:14
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zerwasgnomefreak, oops i have seen now that there is already bug 126078 :o)09:15
ubotuLaunchpad bug 126078 in openarena "openarena 0.7.0" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12607809:15
smarticusi seem to be missing the option to create a new desktop in tribe 509:15
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winbondim trying to update gutsy, the  libpam0g says some services need to be restarted, when i hit next, it restarts the services, then hangs on loading startup scripts? how do i fix it?09:18
LinAsHsmarticus, are you talking of workspaces?09:18
smarticusLinAsH: yeah09:18
LinAsHsmarticus, just click on preference on the Workspace Switcher09:19
smarticusLinAsH: i would if i could.  all i have is options for the Switcher09:19
unggnuIntuitiveNipple, Do you use the new Intel driver or i810?09:19
LinAsHsmarticus, did you add a workspace switcher to your gnome panel?09:25
smarticusLinAsH: yup there is one there09:26
LinAsHsmarticus, and no 'Preferences' when you right click on it??09:26
smarticusLinAsH: nope09:28
smarticusyeah its weird09:28
smarticusoh well09:28
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unggnuIntuitiveNipple, Do you have a Sony laptop or you can confirm the bug I have posted?09:38
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hydrogenhow do i disable strigi from starting/running?09:44
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effie_jayxcan anyone try this to see if it is a bug?09:48
effie_jayx1) browser for an image on nautilus 2) right click on it 3) try to open with the gimp09:48
effie_jayxand... nothing happens09:49
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magnetronIf i would upgrade from feisty to the final gutsy, which cd image should i download?09:53
CheesyMonkeyI just installed a CLI version of the latest tribe, and built gnome using 'gnome-core' now i want to get the built in compiz working, ive installed the 'compiz' package and am running the nvidia drivers etc but i still dont get any window decorations with the error 'Checking for Xgl: not present.' yet it is in my xorg.conf09:53
gesereffie_jayx: works here09:54
effie_jayxgeser,  now that is a mistery then09:54
effie_jayxI can't move thing to other workspaces09:55
effie_jayxnor open things from the right click menu09:55
effie_jayxI can only open the image with the default "open" option in the right click menue09:56
billytwowillyanybody else having k3b crash their whole system when it finishes a cd?09:58
zerwasis it possible to look out for all kubuntu-bugs in launchpad?09:58
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gesereffie_jayx: but gimp works for you?09:58
tapas~$ aplay -Djackplug *.wav09:58
tapasaplay: set_params:900: Sample format non available09:58
tapasjackplug is just a .asoundrc pcm device which uses the alsa jack pcm plugin09:59
tapashmm09:59
tapasmaybe i need to recompile that plugin09:59
effie_jayxgeser,  it idoes09:59
CheesyMonkeyTo get xgl enabled in my X server does it require the package 'xserver-xgl'?09:59
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effie_jayxbut I try to open an image right clicking it and hitting the open with the gimp and it won't work10:00
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effie_jayxI also noticed that I right click and select the move to workspace option and it doesn't work either10:01
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effie_jayxso I wonder if it is a nautilus bug10:01
tapashmm, same bug10:01
Leoneklhello folks10:02
Leoneklive havent been trackin the upcoming 7.10 release10:02
Leoneklhows it coming along??10:02
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tapasand programmable bash_completion for jack_connect is broken, too10:15
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tapasthough that's easy to fix10:16
tapas:)10:16
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tapaserm, the report bug thing on launchpad didn't ask me for the ubuntu release10:21
tapaswhat's /ust/share/apport-qt btw?10:25
tapasand why would it want my password?10:26
VousDeuxI think it logs crashes10:26
VousDeuxif the process that crashed was a root process, it needs a password10:27
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tapasok10:29
tapaswell10:29
tapasit seems it was something serious10:29
VousDeuxit happened to me this morning...the /var/log/apport.log indicated that the nvidia-settings had crashed10:29
tapasbecause the box died completely after a few secs :)10:29
tapas[complete freeze, blinking LED's on keyboard10:29
VousDeuxit does seem a little strange behavior to me too10:30
tapas[irc runs in a screen session on anoter host] 10:30
tapasoh well10:31
tapasand with the old kernel nvidia drivers don't work anymore10:31
tapasalthough linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-16-generic is installed10:33
tapas["doesn't work" as in doesn't seem to exist] 10:33
tapaserm wrong, it does exist10:34
tapasbut:10:34
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tapasFATAL: Error running install command for nvidia10:35
VousDeuxwhich nvidia adapter do you have?10:35
tapasone moment10:36
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tapasGF 6800 LE10:36
tapasNV40.210:36
tapaso, trying teh legacy package10:37
VousDeuxhave you tried nvidia-glx-new?10:37
VousDeuxyou would want to remove old kernel and header files that are not being used, including nvidia-kernel-source10:39
tapashmm10:40
tapasare these packagesd to be installed  additionally to the restricted modules?10:41
VousDeuxI don't think so10:42
tapasis there something special to do after selecting the nvidia-glx-new?10:42
VousDeuxcheck for it's dependencies10:42
tapashmm, doesn't make a difference10:44
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tapaskeep in mind that i booted into an old feisty kernel because the gutsy kernel died on me twice10:44
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tapas[the upgrade process seems to have taken the old feisty kernels along though] 10:45
tapasno output in dmesg either10:45
tapasweird10:45
VousDeuxoh, I thought you were on Gutsy10:46
tapasi am10:46
tapasthe upgrade process doesn't seem to have removed the old feisty kernels though10:46
tapasso i booted one of those10:46
tapas[it still is a gutsy system] 10:46
tapasthe gutsy kernel just died twice on me though, so now i try to get my X back with this olde kernel10:47
Tomcat_The upgrade process can't remove the old kernels because it would be dangerous in the event that the gutsy kernels don't work.10:47
tapaswhich is exactly what has happened here :)10:47
tapasi'll try adifferent gutsy kernel next10:48
tapasbrb10:49
tapasok, now nvidia doesn't load anymore in the gutsy kernel either :)10:54
tapas 2.6.22-11-rt :)10:54
tapasi'll just rfeinstall plain old nvidia-glx.. maybe it works again with that10:55
tapasok, no dice10:56
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tapashmm10:57
tapasok, 60hz 1280x1024 with the nv driver ;)11:00
VousDeuxI think after you install the driver you need to boot into failsafe and run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:01
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tapaswell, modprobe nvidia should work anyways, no?11:03
VousDeuxthen, for nvidia-glx-new, you would make sure the nvidia driver was being referenced (not nv)...be sure, too, to select the proper resolutions using the space-bar to add the *11:03
VousDeuxI'm not so sure that would do it11:04
VousDeuxdon't forget to backup your xorg.conf before you do this11:04
VousDeuxthen, if it doesn't work, all you have to do is restore you other xorg.conf11:05
tapasyeah, i'm aware of the benefits of creating backups :)11:06
tapasbut it can't be said often enough :)11:06
VousDeuxyou may find this document useful: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_100.14.06.html11:06
tapasii don't use amd6411:07
VousDeuxit has some good details about the xorg.conf11:07
VousDeuxthere is probably a 32-bit version of that doc tool11:08
tapashey, i run linux since over 10 years :) the xorg.conf is not the prblem11:08
VousDeuxOkay11:08
tapasthe nvidia driver does not get loaded.. i guess something else is borken11:09
VousDeuxyou probably know way more about it than I do11:09
tapasdunno.. doing something for long doesn't mean one is good at it ;)11:10
tapasi just stumbled across the restricted manager..11:10
tapaswill go into console and see what it does\11:10
VousDeuxI just went through all of this over the past couple of days, but I am running on x86-64, so some of the stuff that worked for me may not help you at all11:11
tapasVousDeux: did you get a similar error message?11:11
tapasoh great, restricted manager is a gui app :)11:12
VousDeuxa lot of what you described sounded similar to things I saw while trying to get my nvidia working11:12
tapaswell, the problem doesn't seem to be a problem of the driver per se.11:13
tapas[otherwise i would get some output in the dmesg] 11:13
tapasbut modprobe seems to do some other mumbo jumbo11:13
VousDeuxmine is working fairly well now, but it is not 100% for sure yet11:13
tapas[using some script. and that is what fails] 11:13
VousDeuxwhich makes it kinda sound like your driver is not compatible with your kernel to me...but I could be talking from by backside11:14
tapaswell, the install script is i think a feature of the linux module loading mechanism11:14
tapasyou can run arbitrary scripts before module insertion [and after] 11:14
tapasnow i need to find the appropriate place in ubuntu11:14
tapas/etc/modprobe.d/lrm-video11:16
tapasthat it is i think11:16
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exiohi... i'm running gutsy and trying to compile a c file, and i installed libc6-dev as well as build-essential and i'm still not able to find any results from "locate stdio.h"11:16
tapasah that keeps the different versions apart11:16
VousDeuxI was thinking about /etc/init.d/rc.local or something, but I may be way off base11:16
tapasexio: did you instrall a c compiler?11:17
exioyes11:17
exioi have gcc and g++11:17
tapasVousDeux: have a look at the file i posted11:17
tapasexio: that's because your locate db is out of date11:18
tapasexio: ls /usr/include/stdio.h11:18
tapas:)11:18
tapasit's in libc6-dev11:18
tapas~$ dpkg -S /usr/include/stdio.h11:18
tapaslibc6-dev: /usr/include/stdio.h11:18
VousDeuxOkay, well good luck...I need to get caught up on my market analysis for the coming week11:19
tapasVousDeux: ok, have funand thanks for your time anyways :)11:20
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nethensonhello11:20
nethensoni am using konsole 1.6.6 on kde 3.5.7 (on kubuntu gutsy) ... is there a way i can get rid of the 'python console, mc console...'?11:20
exiotapas: how long does updatedb usually take11:23
exionvm, just finished finally11:23
nethensonexio: maybe 3-7 minutes...11:23
exiothanks guys... must be having a different problem here.  i have a feeling it has to do with flex11:25
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tapasnethenson: sorry, don't understant your question11:28
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atlfalcons866how do i upgrade to gusty right now11:30
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mikisudo apt-get update11:31
mikisudo apt-get upgrade11:32
nethensontapas: in konsole, in the session menu.. you can see 'python session, mc session..' in   configure konsole menu, you can add new sessions, but can't delete the existing ones :S11:33
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tapasnethenson: hmm, no idea. ask in #kde11:39
tapasnethenson: probably there's some default fiel somehwere11:39
tapasi hate scripts that just silently fail11:43
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atlfalcons866is gusty staoke11:43
atlfalcons866staple11:43
atlfalcons866stable11:44
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Matiratlfalcons866, are you asking if it works stably or is called ubuntu "stable"?11:45
atlfalcons866is it stable to use right now11:47
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tapasnot for me :)11:49
nosrednaekimanyone tried the ATI8.41 driver?11:49
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SlimGWhy isn't the newest fglrx driver 8.40.4 available in the gutsy repos instead of the current 8.37.6 ?11:50
nosrednaekimbecause the newest one has GPL problems I think.11:50
nosrednaekimand breakages..11:50
nosrednaekimand no performance increases11:50
SlimGnosrednaekim: thanks for the quick and accurate answer :)11:51
nosrednaekimI hope it was accurate11:52
tapasok, for the -rt kernel no nvidia module seems to exist in restricted11:55
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maelcumhi! i don't have the gtk libraries installed and don't feel like intallin them for the update manager. how strongly is it recommended to use it instead of apt-get/aptitude ?11:57
maelcumto get gutsy, of course11:58
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nosrednaekimapt-get is good enough.12:01
nosrednaekimaptitude is reportedly even better12:01
maelcumgood. i prefere aptitude anyway :)12:04
maelcump12:04
maelcum*prefer12:04
maelcumdamn typos12:04
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pygidamn, gutsy overheating my laptop12:42
gnomefreakpssssst feisty doesnt ;)12:43
gnomefreakpygi: wait for kernel this week there should be some good fixes in it (atleast a few)12:44
pygignomefreak, or switch back to debian :p12:44
gnomefreaknot sure of all of them other than the 64 xen fixes12:44
gnomefreakdebians not worth the trouble IMHO12:44
gnomefreakand its too plain for me12:45
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pygignomefreak, well, but at least it doesnt kill my laptop? :P12:46
gnomefreakpygi: true12:46
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pygiwish me luck :)12:50
gnomefreakgood luck12:52
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sandycan anyone tell me how to install cadega in gusty01:09
sandycedega01:09
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gnomefreak!cedega01:09
ubotucedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega01:09
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